Talk:Bubs - Revision history

Keegster2: undo revision 814782; That garglemesh is not a good explanation for removing a years-old message.

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undo revision 814782; That garglemesh is not a good explanation for removing a years-old message.

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	:::I have never personally thought that Bubs was supposed to be black, anyway. I just think of him as some funny weird store-owner who helps and/or annoys the other characters. Nothing remotely racist about that. Plus, if they meant it that way, they would've made him say "Y'all come back now, ya hear?" and stuff like that. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 14:37, 19 February 2007 (UTC)		:::I have never personally thought that Bubs was supposed to be black, anyway. I just think of him as some funny weird store-owner who helps and/or annoys the other characters. Nothing remotely racist about that. Plus, if they meant it that way, they would've made him say "Y'all come back now, ya hear?" and stuff like that. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 14:37, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
	::::Even if he was 'black' I can't see that it would be racist. First, I reject the idea that all members of all minorities (Something Bubs, a fat, eccentric orange and blue cartoon man with one eye bigger than the other isn't depicted as visually at the very least) have to be portrayed in a positive light. Besides this other characters are often portrayed as being eccentric, stupid or heavily intertwined with areas of popular culture, (Coach Z's love of rap, Strongbad with a mexican accent and wrestling mask, Marzipan's links to the hippy movement etc.) meaning and that any lampoon is fairly universal. This means any attempt to make a stab at black people in general would have to be entirely intentional in this case. As the Brother Chaps have never made any noise about being against black people or other minorities in general that's a fairly strong accusation. [[User:82.69.88.21\|82.69.88.21]] 05:34, 17 March 2007 (UTC)		::::Even if he was 'black' I can't see that it would be racist. First, I reject the idea that all members of all minorities (Something Bubs, a fat, eccentric orange and blue cartoon man with one eye bigger than the other isn't depicted as visually at the very least) have to be portrayed in a positive light. Besides this other characters are often portrayed as being eccentric, stupid or heavily intertwined with areas of popular culture, (Coach Z's love of rap, Strongbad with a mexican accent and wrestling mask, Marzipan's links to the hippy movement etc.) meaning and that any lampoon is fairly universal. This means any attempt to make a stab at black people in general would have to be entirely intentional in this case. As the Brother Chaps have never made any noise about being against black people or other minorities in general that's a fairly strong accusation. [[User:82.69.88.21\|82.69.88.21]] 05:34, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
		+	:::::They appeared to play on the impression of Bubs as black in one scene (don't remember where from); Coach Z is going on interminably about scary urban legends (the joke is they're the sort of things a clueless crypto-racist would panic over), and Bubs just looks increasingly chagrined. But they don't appear to have made much more of it than a schtick. Like most of the cast of Homestar Runner, Bubs' schtick has relatively little to do with his character, which (I think) is about the smiley contempt he shows toward his customers. In a lot of ways, the Chaps seem to make him archetypal of commerce itself. Given the degree of quirk separating other characters' schticks from their themes and concepts (cf. Coach Z, whose regional accent has nothing to do with being a hopeless old dork), I think it's fair to conclude that even if Bubs were explicitly conceived of as using a black dialect, that would not necessarily imply a comment on Afro-Americans.
	:::::: I always thought Bubs was supposed to be black, but I never really thought it was racist. As for Coach Z, well, he seems to be a white person wishing to be black. [[rapsong\|"It's gonna rocket straight to the bottom of the BET charts!"]]		:::::: I always thought Bubs was supposed to be black, but I never really thought it was racist. As for Coach Z, well, he seems to be a white person wishing to be black. [[rapsong\|"It's gonna rocket straight to the bottom of the BET charts!"]]
	:::::::I think that TBC indirectly made it that way. The Chapmans want characters to have a voice that compliments their appearence. If he speaks in a gravvelly, deep voice, then yes, someone may envision him as a man of a darker persusion. If I envisioned Bubs as human, yes I would see him as a tall, darker man, but it is not from his actions, but from his voice. Even I, the one who is sensitive to all forms of predjudice, do not find offense in Bubs' voice. He is smart and is doing well for himself, and though he is overwieht and slightly insane, he is still a very successful part of the Dumb Animal Characters. If anything, Strong Bad and Coach Z stereotypes, which I don't beleive in, are the worst part of the show. All in all, Bubs is cool, and until I see him stab some people or do something VERY illegal, I don't see any racism. --[[User:Jellote\|Jellote]] 16:12, 24 January 2009 (UTC)		:::::::I think that TBC indirectly made it that way. The Chapmans want characters to have a voice that compliments their appearence. If he speaks in a gravvelly, deep voice, then yes, someone may envision him as a man of a darker persusion. If I envisioned Bubs as human, yes I would see him as a tall, darker man, but it is not from his actions, but from his voice. Even I, the one who is sensitive to all forms of predjudice, do not find offense in Bubs' voice. He is smart and is doing well for himself, and though he is overwieht and slightly insane, he is still a very successful part of the Dumb Animal Characters. If anything, Strong Bad and Coach Z stereotypes, which I don't beleive in, are the worst part of the show. All in all, Bubs is cool, and until I see him stab some people or do something VERY illegal, I don't see any racism. --[[User:Jellote\|Jellote]] 16:12, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

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NAAmye

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	:::I have never personally thought that Bubs was supposed to be black, anyway. I just think of him as some funny weird store-owner who helps and/or annoys the other characters. Nothing remotely racist about that. Plus, if they meant it that way, they would've made him say "Y'all come back now, ya hear?" and stuff like that. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 14:37, 19 February 2007 (UTC)		:::I have never personally thought that Bubs was supposed to be black, anyway. I just think of him as some funny weird store-owner who helps and/or annoys the other characters. Nothing remotely racist about that. Plus, if they meant it that way, they would've made him say "Y'all come back now, ya hear?" and stuff like that. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 14:37, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
	::::Even if he was 'black' I can't see that it would be racist. First, I reject the idea that all members of all minorities (Something Bubs, a fat, eccentric orange and blue cartoon man with one eye bigger than the other isn't depicted as visually at the very least) have to be portrayed in a positive light. Besides this other characters are often portrayed as being eccentric, stupid or heavily intertwined with areas of popular culture, (Coach Z's love of rap, Strongbad with a mexican accent and wrestling mask, Marzipan's links to the hippy movement etc.) meaning and that any lampoon is fairly universal. This means any attempt to make a stab at black people in general would have to be entirely intentional in this case. As the Brother Chaps have never made any noise about being against black people or other minorities in general that's a fairly strong accusation. [[User:82.69.88.21\|82.69.88.21]] 05:34, 17 March 2007 (UTC)		::::Even if he was 'black' I can't see that it would be racist. First, I reject the idea that all members of all minorities (Something Bubs, a fat, eccentric orange and blue cartoon man with one eye bigger than the other isn't depicted as visually at the very least) have to be portrayed in a positive light. Besides this other characters are often portrayed as being eccentric, stupid or heavily intertwined with areas of popular culture, (Coach Z's love of rap, Strongbad with a mexican accent and wrestling mask, Marzipan's links to the hippy movement etc.) meaning and that any lampoon is fairly universal. This means any attempt to make a stab at black people in general would have to be entirely intentional in this case. As the Brother Chaps have never made any noise about being against black people or other minorities in general that's a fairly strong accusation. [[User:82.69.88.21\|82.69.88.21]] 05:34, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
-	:::::They appeared to play on the impression of Bubs as black in one scene (don't remember where from); Coach Z is going on interminably about scary urban legends (the joke is they're the sort of things a clueless crypto-racist would panic over), and Bubs just looks increasingly chagrined. But they don't appear to have made much more of it than a schtick. Like most of the cast of Homestar Runner, Bubs' schtick has relatively little to do with his character, which (I think) is about the smiley contempt he shows toward his customers. In a lot of ways, the Chaps seem to make him archetypal of commerce itself. Given the degree of quirk separating other characters' schticks from their themes and concepts (cf. Coach Z, whose regional accent has nothing to do with being a hopeless old dork), I think it's fair to conclude that even if Bubs were explicitly conceived of as using a black dialect, that would not necessarily imply a comment on Afro-Americans.
	:::::: I always thought Bubs was supposed to be black, but I never really thought it was racist. As for Coach Z, well, he seems to be a white person wishing to be black. [[rapsong\|"It's gonna rocket straight to the bottom of the BET charts!"]]		:::::: I always thought Bubs was supposed to be black, but I never really thought it was racist. As for Coach Z, well, he seems to be a white person wishing to be black. [[rapsong\|"It's gonna rocket straight to the bottom of the BET charts!"]]
	:::::::I think that TBC indirectly made it that way. The Chapmans want characters to have a voice that compliments their appearence. If he speaks in a gravvelly, deep voice, then yes, someone may envision him as a man of a darker persusion. If I envisioned Bubs as human, yes I would see him as a tall, darker man, but it is not from his actions, but from his voice. Even I, the one who is sensitive to all forms of predjudice, do not find offense in Bubs' voice. He is smart and is doing well for himself, and though he is overwieht and slightly insane, he is still a very successful part of the Dumb Animal Characters. If anything, Strong Bad and Coach Z stereotypes, which I don't beleive in, are the worst part of the show. All in all, Bubs is cool, and until I see him stab some people or do something VERY illegal, I don't see any racism. --[[User:Jellote\|Jellote]] 16:12, 24 January 2009 (UTC)		:::::::I think that TBC indirectly made it that way. The Chapmans want characters to have a voice that compliments their appearence. If he speaks in a gravvelly, deep voice, then yes, someone may envision him as a man of a darker persusion. If I envisioned Bubs as human, yes I would see him as a tall, darker man, but it is not from his actions, but from his voice. Even I, the one who is sensitive to all forms of predjudice, do not find offense in Bubs' voice. He is smart and is doing well for himself, and though he is overwieht and slightly insane, he is still a very successful part of the Dumb Animal Characters. If anything, Strong Bad and Coach Z stereotypes, which I don't beleive in, are the worst part of the show. All in all, Bubs is cool, and until I see him stab some people or do something VERY illegal, I don't see any racism. --[[User:Jellote\|Jellote]] 16:12, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

174.76.81.130: /* Bubs' Voice */

2011-08-26T09:27:09Z

Bubs' Voice

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	:::::: I always thought Bubs was supposed to be black, but I never really thought it was racist. As for Coach Z, well, he seems to be a white person wishing to be black. [[rapsong\|"It's gonna rocket straight to the bottom of the BET charts!"]]		:::::: I always thought Bubs was supposed to be black, but I never really thought it was racist. As for Coach Z, well, he seems to be a white person wishing to be black. [[rapsong\|"It's gonna rocket straight to the bottom of the BET charts!"]]
	:::::::I think that TBC indirectly made it that way. The Chapmans want characters to have a voice that compliments their appearence. If he speaks in a gravvelly, deep voice, then yes, someone may envision him as a man of a darker persusion. If I envisioned Bubs as human, yes I would see him as a tall, darker man, but it is not from his actions, but from his voice. Even I, the one who is sensitive to all forms of predjudice, do not find offense in Bubs' voice. He is smart and is doing well for himself, and though he is overwieht and slightly insane, he is still a very successful part of the Dumb Animal Characters. If anything, Strong Bad and Coach Z stereotypes, which I don't beleive in, are the worst part of the show. All in all, Bubs is cool, and until I see him stab some people or do something VERY illegal, I don't see any racism. --[[User:Jellote\|Jellote]] 16:12, 24 January 2009 (UTC)		:::::::I think that TBC indirectly made it that way. The Chapmans want characters to have a voice that compliments their appearence. If he speaks in a gravvelly, deep voice, then yes, someone may envision him as a man of a darker persusion. If I envisioned Bubs as human, yes I would see him as a tall, darker man, but it is not from his actions, but from his voice. Even I, the one who is sensitive to all forms of predjudice, do not find offense in Bubs' voice. He is smart and is doing well for himself, and though he is overwieht and slightly insane, he is still a very successful part of the Dumb Animal Characters. If anything, Strong Bad and Coach Z stereotypes, which I don't beleive in, are the worst part of the show. All in all, Bubs is cool, and until I see him stab some people or do something VERY illegal, I don't see any racism. --[[User:Jellote\|Jellote]] 16:12, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
		+	Very interesting to say the least, that Bubs wears floaties in "keep cool." Might they be perpetuating the stereotype that black people can't swim?

	== Crabbadonk?! ==		== Crabbadonk?! ==

68.225.171.64: /**/safety pin, internal ear

2011-08-08T04:37:53Z

: safety pin, internal ear

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	:you mean something like [[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad\|one of these]] for Bubs? That direct name (i.e. [[Crimes Committed by Bubs]]) doesn't work right now, but you've got an idea there. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:49, 30 April 2010 (UTC)		:you mean something like [[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad\|one of these]] for Bubs? That direct name (i.e. [[Crimes Committed by Bubs]]) doesn't work right now, but you've got an idea there. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:49, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
	::Just noticed this... Since it's recent, i'll say that after this was asked, [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices]] was made. Enjoy. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:33, 3 May 2010 (UTC)		::Just noticed this... Since it's recent, i'll say that after this was asked, [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices]] was made. Enjoy. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:33, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
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		+	== safety pin, internal ear ==
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		+	This was actually part of the Lou Albano costume and not related to his physiology in any way. Take it from me as a long-time fan of both pro wrestling and Homestar Runner - Captain Lou used to affix all manner of foreign objects to his face, usually including (but not limited to) safety pins and rubber bands. A very strange, very entertaining fellow. R.I.P. Captain Lou. [[Special:Contributions/68.225.171.64\|68.225.171.64]] 04:37, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Gfdgsgxgzgdrc: /* Duck Guardian? */

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Duck Guardian?

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	:[[Image:Duck_Guardian_winscreen.png\|thumb\|Bubs Alien?]] The head and body color are the same, but they don't look the same. [[User:Maggot Man\|<font color="Blue">Maggot Man</font>]] ''([[User talk:Maggot Man\|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 17:24, 11 June 2006 (UTC)		:[[Image:Duck_Guardian_winscreen.png\|thumb\|Bubs Alien?]] The head and body color are the same, but they don't look the same. [[User:Maggot Man\|<font color="Blue">Maggot Man</font>]] ''([[User talk:Maggot Man\|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 17:24, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
	::Well, his eyes do resemble Bubs' little eye.... [[User:Enigma\|Enigma]] 13:09, 7 May 2007 (UTC)		::Well, his eyes do resemble Bubs' little eye.... [[User:Enigma\|Enigma]] 13:09, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
		+	:::Yeah. The head and body color are the same, his eyes do resemble Bubs' little eye. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}}

	== Domicle ==		== Domicle ==

Defender1031: /* Criminal Record? */ just noticed this

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Criminal Record?: just noticed this

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	Hopefully not a waste of space, but is there a page about the many instances where Bubs has been implied to be a notorious criminal? [[User:Ilovefrenchhorn\|Ilovefrenchhorn]] 21:45, 30 April 2010 (UTC)		Hopefully not a waste of space, but is there a page about the many instances where Bubs has been implied to be a notorious criminal? [[User:Ilovefrenchhorn\|Ilovefrenchhorn]] 21:45, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
	:you mean something like [[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad\|one of these]] for Bubs? That direct name (i.e. [[Crimes Committed by Bubs]]) doesn't work right now, but you've got an idea there. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:49, 30 April 2010 (UTC)		:you mean something like [[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad\|one of these]] for Bubs? That direct name (i.e. [[Crimes Committed by Bubs]]) doesn't work right now, but you've got an idea there. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:49, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
		+	::Just noticed this... Since it's recent, i'll say that after this was asked, [[Bubs's Shady Business Practices]] was made. Enjoy. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:33, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

The Knights Who Say Ni: /* Criminal Record? */

2010-04-30T21:49:59Z

Criminal Record?

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	Hopefully not a waste of space, but is there a page about the many instances where Bubs has been implied to be a notorious criminal? [[User:Ilovefrenchhorn\|Ilovefrenchhorn]] 21:45, 30 April 2010 (UTC)		Hopefully not a waste of space, but is there a page about the many instances where Bubs has been implied to be a notorious criminal? [[User:Ilovefrenchhorn\|Ilovefrenchhorn]] 21:45, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
		+	:you mean something like [[Crimes Committed by Strong Bad\|one of these]] for Bubs? That direct name (i.e. [[Crimes Committed by Bubs]]) doesn't work right now, but you've got an idea there. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:49, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Ilovefrenchhorn: /* Criminal Record? */

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Criminal Record?

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	== Criminal Record? ==		== Criminal Record? ==

-	Hopefully not a waste of space, but is there a page about the many instances where Bubs has been implied to be a notorious criminal?	+	Hopefully not a waste of space, but is there a page about the many instances where Bubs has been implied to be a notorious criminal? [[User:Ilovefrenchhorn\|Ilovefrenchhorn]] 21:45, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Ilovefrenchhorn: /**/Criminal Record?

2010-04-30T21:44:52Z

: Criminal Record?

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	Nice pics. The forum is located [http://forum.hrwiki.org here], and you need a separate account to post there. Hope that helps, {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 00:55, 27 July 2009 (UTC)		Nice pics. The forum is located [http://forum.hrwiki.org here], and you need a separate account to post there. Hope that helps, {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 00:55, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
	:Could this be counted as an inconsistency? Though maybe Bubs was just much angrier at Homestar than at Strong Bad for some reason. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 03:40, 27 July 2009 (UTC)		:Could this be counted as an inconsistency? Though maybe Bubs was just much angrier at Homestar than at Strong Bad for some reason. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 03:40, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
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		+	== Criminal Record? ==
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		+	Hopefully not a waste of space, but is there a page about the many instances where Bubs has been implied to be a notorious criminal?

64.12.116.143: /* 20X6 Bubs... */

2009-12-09T14:02:01Z

20X6 Bubs...

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	:I know that it's like, a year and almost three months since (I can't spell that word) this discussion ended, but I just realized something. If [[20X6 Coach Z]] is the main villain of Stinkoman 20X6, then isn't it possible, since (I still can't spell that word) Coach Z is always hanging out with Bubs, that Greggo and Chorch ''could'' be 20X6 versions of Bubs working for 20X6 Coach Z? --[[User:Homsar Lover\|Homsar Lover]]		:I know that it's like, a year and almost three months since (I can't spell that word) this discussion ended, but I just realized something. If [[20X6 Coach Z]] is the main villain of Stinkoman 20X6, then isn't it possible, since (I still can't spell that word) Coach Z is always hanging out with Bubs, that Greggo and Chorch ''could'' be 20X6 versions of Bubs working for 20X6 Coach Z? --[[User:Homsar Lover\|Homsar Lover]]
	:'''Seco'''- Wait, this isn't STUFF'D. Well, I '''DO''' agree with Homsar Lover. {{User:Star Guy/sig}} 02:25, 9 December 2009 (UTC)		:'''Seco'''- Wait, this isn't STUFF'D. Well, I '''DO''' agree with Homsar Lover. {{User:Star Guy/sig}} 02:25, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
		+	::This is becoming a sort of forum talk, guys. (And you did spell since right HL) [[Special:Contributions/64.12.116.143\|64.12.116.143]] 14:02, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

	==Bub's Last Name ==		==Bub's Last Name ==