Talk:Marzi-Mei - Revision history

47.204.135.29: /* Just a theory */

47.204.135.29 — Sun, 22 Jan 2023 03:21:27 GMT

Just a theory

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-	If we're going by H*R canon, wouldn't that mean Marzi-Mei is 1-Up's girlfriend? (even though it's never acknowledged in the actual cartoons)	+	If we're going by H*R canon, wouldn't that mean Marzi-Mei is 1-Up's girlfriend? (even though it's never acknowledged in the actual game/cartoons)

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47.204.135.29 — Sun, 22 Jan 2023 03:20:14 GMT

: Just a theory

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	The page most recently stated "her overall current design appears to be based on more recent ''kawaii'' aesthetics and 1990s to early 2000s JRPG designs" which I disagree with. "More recent" and "1990s to early 2000s" are both pretty vague but her 70s-hippie-style outfit doesn't call to mind much like that. {{prs\|1387158850109943809\|27\|Apr\|2021\|alt=The Twitter sketches}} seem to have a little Leiji Matsumoto influence (willowy body, sad eyes, long face - compare [https://cdn-us.anidb.net/images/main/89078.jpg Stella from 'Interstella 5555']); Matsumoto's most influential work was in the late 70s/early 80s which vaguely matches the 60s-70s hippie movement. [[The Homestar Runner Enters the Spooky Woods Costumes\|TBC ''have'' referenced Matsumoto once before]], but I think this connection is still too tenuous. Unlike ''Sailor Moon'' for her initial design, there's not a cut-and-dry reference point so I don't think that we should make claims on what her look "appears to be based on". If there are more specific kawaii characters or JRPG designs then I could see a reason to bring them in, but right now any guesses are just too broad. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 19:55, 16 August 2021 (UTC)		The page most recently stated "her overall current design appears to be based on more recent ''kawaii'' aesthetics and 1990s to early 2000s JRPG designs" which I disagree with. "More recent" and "1990s to early 2000s" are both pretty vague but her 70s-hippie-style outfit doesn't call to mind much like that. {{prs\|1387158850109943809\|27\|Apr\|2021\|alt=The Twitter sketches}} seem to have a little Leiji Matsumoto influence (willowy body, sad eyes, long face - compare [https://cdn-us.anidb.net/images/main/89078.jpg Stella from 'Interstella 5555']); Matsumoto's most influential work was in the late 70s/early 80s which vaguely matches the 60s-70s hippie movement. [[The Homestar Runner Enters the Spooky Woods Costumes\|TBC ''have'' referenced Matsumoto once before]], but I think this connection is still too tenuous. Unlike ''Sailor Moon'' for her initial design, there's not a cut-and-dry reference point so I don't think that we should make claims on what her look "appears to be based on". If there are more specific kawaii characters or JRPG designs then I could see a reason to bring them in, but right now any guesses are just too broad. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 19:55, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
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		+	If we're going by H*R canon, wouldn't that mean Marzi-Mei is 1-Up's girlfriend? (even though it's never acknowledged in the actual cartoons)

Bleu Ninja: /* 20X6 Carol */

Bleu Ninja — Mon, 16 Aug 2021 21:44:44 GMT

20X6 Carol

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	::::It does. She strums it and a laser fires in a circular pattern, blowing up the enemies around her. [[User:Guybrush20X6\|Guybrush20X6]] 23:34, 22 December 2020 (UTC)		::::It does. She strums it and a laser fires in a circular pattern, blowing up the enemies around her. [[User:Guybrush20X6\|Guybrush20X6]] 23:34, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
	::::::It looks like a shamisen. Which makes sense because Japanese, right?		::::::It looks like a shamisen. Which makes sense because Japanese, right?
		+	I think this is more suited for [[Talk:Carol\|the Carol talk page]]. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 21:44, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

	== Current design influences? ==		== Current design influences? ==

	The page most recently stated "her overall current design appears to be based on more recent ''kawaii'' aesthetics and 1990s to early 2000s JRPG designs" which I disagree with. "More recent" and "1990s to early 2000s" are both pretty vague but her 70s-hippie-style outfit doesn't call to mind much like that. {{prs\|1387158850109943809\|27\|Apr\|2021\|alt=The Twitter sketches}} seem to have a little Leiji Matsumoto influence (willowy body, sad eyes, long face - compare [https://cdn-us.anidb.net/images/main/89078.jpg Stella from 'Interstella 5555']); Matsumoto's most influential work was in the late 70s/early 80s which vaguely matches the 60s-70s hippie movement. [[The Homestar Runner Enters the Spooky Woods Costumes\|TBC ''have'' referenced Matsumoto once before]], but I think this connection is still too tenuous. Unlike ''Sailor Moon'' for her initial design, there's not a cut-and-dry reference point so I don't think that we should make claims on what her look "appears to be based on". If there are more specific kawaii characters or JRPG designs then I could see a reason to bring them in, but right now any guesses are just too broad. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 19:55, 16 August 2021 (UTC)		The page most recently stated "her overall current design appears to be based on more recent ''kawaii'' aesthetics and 1990s to early 2000s JRPG designs" which I disagree with. "More recent" and "1990s to early 2000s" are both pretty vague but her 70s-hippie-style outfit doesn't call to mind much like that. {{prs\|1387158850109943809\|27\|Apr\|2021\|alt=The Twitter sketches}} seem to have a little Leiji Matsumoto influence (willowy body, sad eyes, long face - compare [https://cdn-us.anidb.net/images/main/89078.jpg Stella from 'Interstella 5555']); Matsumoto's most influential work was in the late 70s/early 80s which vaguely matches the 60s-70s hippie movement. [[The Homestar Runner Enters the Spooky Woods Costumes\|TBC ''have'' referenced Matsumoto once before]], but I think this connection is still too tenuous. Unlike ''Sailor Moon'' for her initial design, there's not a cut-and-dry reference point so I don't think that we should make claims on what her look "appears to be based on". If there are more specific kawaii characters or JRPG designs then I could see a reason to bring them in, but right now any guesses are just too broad. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 19:55, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

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Bleu Ninja — Mon, 16 Aug 2021 20:17:12 GMT

Current design influences?: fixed link

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-	The page most recently stated "her overall current design appears to be based on more recent ''kawaii'' aesthetics and 1990s to early 2000s JRPG designs" which I disagree with. "More recent" and "1990s to early 2000s" are both pretty vague but her 70s-hippie-style outfit doesn't call to mind much like that. {{prs\|1387158850109943809\|27\|Apr\|2021\|alt=The Twitter sketches}} seem to have a little ~~bit of~~ Leiji Matsumoto influence (willowy body, sad eyes, long face - compare [https://cdn-us.anidb.net/images/main/89078.jpg Stella from 'Interstella 5555'); Matsumoto's most influential work was in the late 70s/early 80s which vaguely matches the 60s-70s hippie movement. [[The Homestar Runner Enters the Spooky Woods Costumes\|TBC have referenced Matsumoto once before]], but I think this connection is still too tenuous. Unlike ''Sailor Moon'' for her initial design, there's not a cut-and-dry reference point so I don't ~~know~~ that we should make claims on what her look "appears to be based on". If there are more specific kawaii characters or JRPG designs then I could see a reason to bring them in, but right now any guesses are just too broad. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 19:55, 16 August 2021 (UTC)	+	The page most recently stated "her overall current design appears to be based on more recent ''kawaii'' aesthetics and 1990s to early 2000s JRPG designs" which I disagree with. "More recent" and "1990s to early 2000s" are both pretty vague but her 70s-hippie-style outfit doesn't call to mind much like that. {{prs\|1387158850109943809\|27\|Apr\|2021\|alt=The Twitter sketches}} seem to have a little Leiji Matsumoto influence (willowy body, sad eyes, long face - compare [https://cdn-us.anidb.net/images/main/89078.jpg Stella from 'Interstella 5555']); Matsumoto's most influential work was in the late 70s/early 80s which vaguely matches the 60s-70s hippie movement. [[The Homestar Runner Enters the Spooky Woods Costumes\|TBC ''have'' referenced Matsumoto once before]], but I think this connection is still too tenuous. Unlike ''Sailor Moon'' for her initial design, there's not a cut-and-dry reference point so I don't think that we should make claims on what her look "appears to be based on". If there are more specific kawaii characters or JRPG designs then I could see a reason to bring them in, but right now any guesses are just too broad. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 19:55, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Bleu Ninja: /**/Current design influences?

Bleu Ninja — Mon, 16 Aug 2021 19:55:38 GMT

: Current design influences?

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	::::It does. She strums it and a laser fires in a circular pattern, blowing up the enemies around her. [[User:Guybrush20X6\|Guybrush20X6]] 23:34, 22 December 2020 (UTC)		::::It does. She strums it and a laser fires in a circular pattern, blowing up the enemies around her. [[User:Guybrush20X6\|Guybrush20X6]] 23:34, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
	::::::It looks like a shamisen. Which makes sense because Japanese, right?		::::::It looks like a shamisen. Which makes sense because Japanese, right?
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		+	== Current design influences? ==
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		+	The page most recently stated "her overall current design appears to be based on more recent ''kawaii'' aesthetics and 1990s to early 2000s JRPG designs" which I disagree with. "More recent" and "1990s to early 2000s" are both pretty vague but her 70s-hippie-style outfit doesn't call to mind much like that. {{prs\|1387158850109943809\|27\|Apr\|2021\|alt=The Twitter sketches}} seem to have a little bit of Leiji Matsumoto influence (willowy body, sad eyes, long face - compare [https://cdn-us.anidb.net/images/main/89078.jpg Stella from 'Interstella 5555'); Matsumoto's most influential work was in the late 70s/early 80s which vaguely matches the 60s-70s hippie movement. [[The Homestar Runner Enters the Spooky Woods Costumes\|TBC have referenced Matsumoto once before]], but I think this connection is still too tenuous. Unlike ''Sailor Moon'' for her initial design, there's not a cut-and-dry reference point so I don't know that we should make claims on what her look "appears to be based on". If there are more specific kawaii characters or JRPG designs then I could see a reason to bring them in, but right now any guesses are just too broad. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 19:55, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

50.234.189.45: /* 20X6 Carol */

50.234.189.45 — Tue, 22 Dec 2020 23:54:23 GMT

20X6 Carol

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	:::That is entirely possible. And I see now that that's definitely Carol. I saw the strings on the base in a playthrough video. But we can only guess how it works as a weapon until we see it in action. I doubt the HD Intro shows that, or does it? --[[User:Stux\|Stux]] 23:31, 22 December 2020 (UTC)		:::That is entirely possible. And I see now that that's definitely Carol. I saw the strings on the base in a playthrough video. But we can only guess how it works as a weapon until we see it in action. I doubt the HD Intro shows that, or does it? --[[User:Stux\|Stux]] 23:31, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
	::::It does. She strums it and a laser fires in a circular pattern, blowing up the enemies around her. [[User:Guybrush20X6\|Guybrush20X6]] 23:34, 22 December 2020 (UTC)		::::It does. She strums it and a laser fires in a circular pattern, blowing up the enemies around her. [[User:Guybrush20X6\|Guybrush20X6]] 23:34, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
		+	::::::It looks like a shamisen. Which makes sense because Japanese, right?

Guybrush20X6: /* 20X6 Carol */

Guybrush20X6 — Tue, 22 Dec 2020 23:34:38 GMT

20X6 Carol

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	::I think it's one of those musical instruments that magical girls use as their weapons. Fitting considering she was originally based of Sailor Moon. [[User:Guybrush20X6\|Guybrush20X6]] 23:05, 22 December 2020 (UTC)		::I think it's one of those musical instruments that magical girls use as their weapons. Fitting considering she was originally based of Sailor Moon. [[User:Guybrush20X6\|Guybrush20X6]] 23:05, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
	:::That is entirely possible. And I see now that that's definitely Carol. I saw the strings on the base in a playthrough video. But we can only guess how it works as a weapon until we see it in action. I doubt the HD Intro shows that, or does it? --[[User:Stux\|Stux]] 23:31, 22 December 2020 (UTC)		:::That is entirely possible. And I see now that that's definitely Carol. I saw the strings on the base in a playthrough video. But we can only guess how it works as a weapon until we see it in action. I doubt the HD Intro shows that, or does it? --[[User:Stux\|Stux]] 23:31, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
		+	::::It does. She strums it and a laser fires in a circular pattern, blowing up the enemies around her. [[User:Guybrush20X6\|Guybrush20X6]] 23:34, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Stux: /* 20X6 Carol */ reply

Stux — Tue, 22 Dec 2020 23:31:17 GMT

20X6 Carol: reply

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	:Good question. It does look like a guitar now that you mention it! But I see no strings. I thought it was some kind of wand or giant beat-em-up stick. Or maybe it conceals a sword. Can't really tell since we haven't seen her use it. --[[User:Stux\|Stux]] 08:47, 22 December 2020 (UTC)		:Good question. It does look like a guitar now that you mention it! But I see no strings. I thought it was some kind of wand or giant beat-em-up stick. Or maybe it conceals a sword. Can't really tell since we haven't seen her use it. --[[User:Stux\|Stux]] 08:47, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
	::I think it's one of those musical instruments that magical girls use as their weapons. Fitting considering she was originally based of Sailor Moon. [[User:Guybrush20X6\|Guybrush20X6]] 23:05, 22 December 2020 (UTC)		::I think it's one of those musical instruments that magical girls use as their weapons. Fitting considering she was originally based of Sailor Moon. [[User:Guybrush20X6\|Guybrush20X6]] 23:05, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
		+	:::That is entirely possible. And I see now that that's definitely Carol. I saw the strings on the base in a playthrough video. But we can only guess how it works as a weapon until we see it in action. I doubt the HD Intro shows that, or does it? --[[User:Stux\|Stux]] 23:31, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Guybrush20X6: /* 20X6 Carol */

Guybrush20X6 — Tue, 22 Dec 2020 23:05:35 GMT

20X6 Carol

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	Does anybody know if that flower-shaped instrument is still a guitar? --[[User:Kinnikuwarui]]		Does anybody know if that flower-shaped instrument is still a guitar? --[[User:Kinnikuwarui]]
	:Good question. It does look like a guitar now that you mention it! But I see no strings. I thought it was some kind of wand or giant beat-em-up stick. Or maybe it conceals a sword. Can't really tell since we haven't seen her use it. --[[User:Stux\|Stux]] 08:47, 22 December 2020 (UTC)		:Good question. It does look like a guitar now that you mention it! But I see no strings. I thought it was some kind of wand or giant beat-em-up stick. Or maybe it conceals a sword. Can't really tell since we haven't seen her use it. --[[User:Stux\|Stux]] 08:47, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
		+	::I think it's one of those musical instruments that magical girls use as their weapons. Fitting considering she was originally based of Sailor Moon. [[User:Guybrush20X6\|Guybrush20X6]] 23:05, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Stux: /* 20X6 Carol */ reply

Stux — Tue, 22 Dec 2020 08:47:45 GMT

20X6 Carol: reply

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	Does anybody know if that flower-shaped instrument is still a guitar? --[[User:Kinnikuwarui]]		Does anybody know if that flower-shaped instrument is still a guitar? --[[User:Kinnikuwarui]]
		+	:Good question. It does look like a guitar now that you mention it! But I see no strings. I thought it was some kind of wand or giant beat-em-up stick. Or maybe it conceals a sword. Can't really tell since we haven't seen her use it. --[[User:Stux\|Stux]] 08:47, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

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	::I think it's one of those musical instruments that magical girls use as their weapons. Fitting considering she was originally based of Sailor Moon. [[User:Guybrush20X6\|Guybrush20X6]] 23:05, 22 December 2020 (UTC)		::I think it's one of those musical instruments that magical girls use as their weapons. Fitting considering she was originally based of Sailor Moon. [[User:Guybrush20X6\|Guybrush20X6]] 23:05, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
	:::That is entirely possible. And I see now that that's definitely Carol. I saw the strings on the base in a playthrough video. But we can only guess how it works as a weapon until we see it in action. I doubt the HD Intro shows that, or does it? --[[User:Stux\|Stux]] 23:31, 22 December 2020 (UTC)		:::That is entirely possible. And I see now that that's definitely Carol. I saw the strings on the base in a playthrough video. But we can only guess how it works as a weapon until we see it in action. I doubt the HD Intro shows that, or does it? --[[User:Stux\|Stux]] 23:31, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
		+	::::It does. She strums it and a laser fires in a circular pattern, blowing up the enemies around her. [[User:Guybrush20X6\|Guybrush20X6]] 23:34, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

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	:Good question. It does look like a guitar now that you mention it! But I see no strings. I thought it was some kind of wand or giant beat-em-up stick. Or maybe it conceals a sword. Can't really tell since we haven't seen her use it. --[[User:Stux\|Stux]] 08:47, 22 December 2020 (UTC)		:Good question. It does look like a guitar now that you mention it! But I see no strings. I thought it was some kind of wand or giant beat-em-up stick. Or maybe it conceals a sword. Can't really tell since we haven't seen her use it. --[[User:Stux\|Stux]] 08:47, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
	::I think it's one of those musical instruments that magical girls use as their weapons. Fitting considering she was originally based of Sailor Moon. [[User:Guybrush20X6\|Guybrush20X6]] 23:05, 22 December 2020 (UTC)		::I think it's one of those musical instruments that magical girls use as their weapons. Fitting considering she was originally based of Sailor Moon. [[User:Guybrush20X6\|Guybrush20X6]] 23:05, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
		+	:::That is entirely possible. And I see now that that's definitely Carol. I saw the strings on the base in a playthrough video. But we can only guess how it works as a weapon until we see it in action. I doubt the HD Intro shows that, or does it? --[[User:Stux\|Stux]] 23:31, 22 December 2020 (UTC)