Talk:Sickly Sam's Big Outing - Revision history

Defender1031: rv, all of these are old talk posts and your replies are all either speculation or completely off-topic.

Defender1031 — Mon, 10 Aug 2015 17:46:06 GMT

rv, all of these are old talk posts and your replies are all either speculation or completely off-topic.

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	I kinda do think they're supposed to be Old Timey Robot, Bland, and Señor. That was my first thought when I saw them, and them not being in the actual toon fits in context the way Mr. Bland and Señor are often mentioned in passing as if they're main characters but they're really not. On the other hand, however, you have different fingers. And since we can't be sure, and since they weren't in the toon and are not likely to ever be in an Old Timey toon, I don't think it needs to be mentioned anywhere but on a talk page.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 00:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)		I kinda do think they're supposed to be Old Timey Robot, Bland, and Señor. That was my first thought when I saw them, and them not being in the actual toon fits in context the way Mr. Bland and Señor are often mentioned in passing as if they're main characters but they're really not. On the other hand, however, you have different fingers. And since we can't be sure, and since they weren't in the toon and are not likely to ever be in an Old Timey toon, I don't think it needs to be mentioned anywhere but on a talk page.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 00:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

-	~~[[User:Bobsmith84\|Bobsmith84]] Wouldn't [[Rumble Red]] be closer to an Old-Timey Nebulon? [[User:YoghNess\|YoghNess]] 17:14, 10 August 2015 (UTC)~~
	== "Dee = Ugly One?" ==		== "Dee = Ugly One?" ==

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	::Hmmm... that's true, TBC might have done that just because in those older films sometimes they would forget to keep prop continuity. Not sure though. --[[User:Abelhawk\|Abelhawk]] 20:36, 13 February 2008 (UTC)		::Hmmm... that's true, TBC might have done that just because in those older films sometimes they would forget to keep prop continuity. Not sure though. --[[User:Abelhawk\|Abelhawk]] 20:36, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
	:::I think it's possible that the color change on The Sneak's tail is quite likely intentional, but not Sickly Sam's hat disappearing. That seems like a definite goof to me. {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 01:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)		:::I think it's possible that the color change on The Sneak's tail is quite likely intentional, but not Sickly Sam's hat disappearing. That seems like a definite goof to me. {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 01:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
-	~~::::Also, if there are any goofs listed in PBTC toons, they should too be removed [[User:YoghNess\|YoghNess]] 17:14, 10 August 2015 (UTC)~~

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	Is this a play on the phrase "Dressed to the nines?" implying that Sickly Sam will only be dressed moderately better? If so, does this warrant an explanation?		Is this a play on the phrase "Dressed to the nines?" implying that Sickly Sam will only be dressed moderately better? If so, does this warrant an explanation?
	:It sounds like a good idea. I'd never heard that expression before, and that phrase slightly confused me.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 02:33, 12 February 2008 (UTC)		:It sounds like a good idea. I'd never heard that expression before, and that phrase slightly confused me.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 02:33, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
-	~~::Or maybe it's an inflation joke, a la calling 27c 27 big ones in That A Ghost [[User:YoghNess\|YoghNess]] 17:14, 10 August 2015 (UTC)~~

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	: The poor editing in Old-Timey cartoons has been seen before, but I do agree that it's unusual for there to be obvious sticks and props in what should be an ANIMATED show. Remark-worthy? Dunno. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:50, 12 February 2008 (UTC)		: The poor editing in Old-Timey cartoons has been seen before, but I do agree that it's unusual for there to be obvious sticks and props in what should be an ANIMATED show. Remark-worthy? Dunno. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:50, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
	::I think it's remark-worthy. Previous old-timey toons looked like they showed what actually happened back then, while this one clearly shows that it's all staged with scripts, acting, bad special effects and editing.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)		::I think it's remark-worthy. Previous old-timey toons looked like they showed what actually happened back then, while this one clearly shows that it's all staged with scripts, acting, bad special effects and editing.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
-	~~:::Or maybe, it's that the sticks and props are part of a backdrop filmed and then drawn on with a cel [[User:YoghNess\|YoghNess]] 17:14, 10 August 2015 (UTC)~~

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	* The first color films appeared in the late 1920s, but experimental color films (which this resembles) with only part of the scene colorized or tinted, were done as early as first decade of the 20th century.		* The first color films appeared in the late 1920s, but experimental color films (which this resembles) with only part of the scene colorized or tinted, were done as early as first decade of the 20th century.
	Shouldn't these two be connected together into a single fact?		Shouldn't these two be connected together into a single fact?
-	~~::Also, experimental colour films tinted the entire picture a certain colour [[User:YoghNess\|YoghNess]] 17:14, 10 August 2015 (UTC)~~

	== Hmmm? ==		== Hmmm? ==

YoghNess at 17:14, 10 August 2015

YoghNess — Mon, 10 Aug 2015 17:14:38 GMT

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	I kinda do think they're supposed to be Old Timey Robot, Bland, and Señor. That was my first thought when I saw them, and them not being in the actual toon fits in context the way Mr. Bland and Señor are often mentioned in passing as if they're main characters but they're really not. On the other hand, however, you have different fingers. And since we can't be sure, and since they weren't in the toon and are not likely to ever be in an Old Timey toon, I don't think it needs to be mentioned anywhere but on a talk page.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 00:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)		I kinda do think they're supposed to be Old Timey Robot, Bland, and Señor. That was my first thought when I saw them, and them not being in the actual toon fits in context the way Mr. Bland and Señor are often mentioned in passing as if they're main characters but they're really not. On the other hand, however, you have different fingers. And since we can't be sure, and since they weren't in the toon and are not likely to ever be in an Old Timey toon, I don't think it needs to be mentioned anywhere but on a talk page.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 00:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

		+	[[User:Bobsmith84\|Bobsmith84]] Wouldn't [[Rumble Red]] be closer to an Old-Timey Nebulon? [[User:YoghNess\|YoghNess]] 17:14, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
	== "Dee = Ugly One?" ==		== "Dee = Ugly One?" ==

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	::Hmmm... that's true, TBC might have done that just because in those older films sometimes they would forget to keep prop continuity. Not sure though. --[[User:Abelhawk\|Abelhawk]] 20:36, 13 February 2008 (UTC)		::Hmmm... that's true, TBC might have done that just because in those older films sometimes they would forget to keep prop continuity. Not sure though. --[[User:Abelhawk\|Abelhawk]] 20:36, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
	:::I think it's possible that the color change on The Sneak's tail is quite likely intentional, but not Sickly Sam's hat disappearing. That seems like a definite goof to me. {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 01:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)		:::I think it's possible that the color change on The Sneak's tail is quite likely intentional, but not Sickly Sam's hat disappearing. That seems like a definite goof to me. {{User:Lux Acerbus/sig}} 01:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
		+	::::Also, if there are any goofs listed in PBTC toons, they should too be removed [[User:YoghNess\|YoghNess]] 17:14, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

	== Foiled? ==		== Foiled? ==
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	Is this a play on the phrase "Dressed to the nines?" implying that Sickly Sam will only be dressed moderately better? If so, does this warrant an explanation?		Is this a play on the phrase "Dressed to the nines?" implying that Sickly Sam will only be dressed moderately better? If so, does this warrant an explanation?
	:It sounds like a good idea. I'd never heard that expression before, and that phrase slightly confused me.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 02:33, 12 February 2008 (UTC)		:It sounds like a good idea. I'd never heard that expression before, and that phrase slightly confused me.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 02:33, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
		+	::Or maybe it's an inflation joke, a la calling 27c 27 big ones in That A Ghost [[User:YoghNess\|YoghNess]] 17:14, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

	== Live Action? ==		== Live Action? ==
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	: The poor editing in Old-Timey cartoons has been seen before, but I do agree that it's unusual for there to be obvious sticks and props in what should be an ANIMATED show. Remark-worthy? Dunno. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:50, 12 February 2008 (UTC)		: The poor editing in Old-Timey cartoons has been seen before, but I do agree that it's unusual for there to be obvious sticks and props in what should be an ANIMATED show. Remark-worthy? Dunno. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:50, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
	::I think it's remark-worthy. Previous old-timey toons looked like they showed what actually happened back then, while this one clearly shows that it's all staged with scripts, acting, bad special effects and editing.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)		::I think it's remark-worthy. Previous old-timey toons looked like they showed what actually happened back then, while this one clearly shows that it's all staged with scripts, acting, bad special effects and editing.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
		+	:::Or maybe, it's that the sticks and props are part of a backdrop filmed and then drawn on with a cel [[User:YoghNess\|YoghNess]] 17:14, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

	== Fort Wayne Locomotive ==		== Fort Wayne Locomotive ==
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	* The first color films appeared in the late 1920s, but experimental color films (which this resembles) with only part of the scene colorized or tinted, were done as early as first decade of the 20th century.		* The first color films appeared in the late 1920s, but experimental color films (which this resembles) with only part of the scene colorized or tinted, were done as early as first decade of the 20th century.
	Shouldn't these two be connected together into a single fact?		Shouldn't these two be connected together into a single fact?
		+	::Also, experimental colour films tinted the entire picture a certain colour [[User:YoghNess\|YoghNess]] 17:14, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

	== Hmmm? ==		== Hmmm? ==

YoghNess at 17:00, 10 August 2015

YoghNess — Mon, 10 Aug 2015 17:00:23 GMT

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	:::::But, really, the best explanation for this question is, as [[User:Ted\|Ted]] would say, 'It's just a cratoon.' - {{User:Catjaz63/sig}} 01:56, 15 July 2015 (UTC)		:::::But, really, the best explanation for this question is, as [[User:Ted\|Ted]] would say, 'It's just a cratoon.' - {{User:Catjaz63/sig}} 01:56, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
	::::::Agreed. <small>But what a cratoon. Everybody loves the it. It is a terrific body of work. Peoples all the time debate about their flavorite dumb animal characters dying. IT HAS ITS OWN WIKI EVEN</small> --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 02:12, 15 July 2015 (UTC)		::::::Agreed. <small>But what a cratoon. Everybody loves the it. It is a terrific body of work. Peoples all the time debate about their flavorite dumb animal characters dying. IT HAS ITS OWN WIKI EVEN</small> --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 02:12, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
		+	:::::::I agree with [[User:Catjaz63\|Catjaz63]], we hardly need to discuss the philosophy of this toon, but my original point was that before they were 2 of the 3 main heroes of the toon, but they don't appear in the climax or resolution. And about them appearing in April Fools 2014 and sbemail206, Kick the Can was made in 1933, where as this was made later, and they were animatronics in the latter toon. {{User:YoghNess/sig}} 17:00, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Purple Wrench: now i know i really should have written something constructive... but i - aww, man! why didn't i write something constructive?

Purple Wrench — Wed, 15 Jul 2015 02:12:32 GMT

now i know i really should have written something constructive... but i - aww, man! why didn't i write something constructive?

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	:::::An explanation for McArby would be that it's all 'directed' by Strong Sad in order to portray his fantasies of getting revenge on the rest of the characters. This is seen prominently in a talk with Homestar Runner in the same 'toon and Strong Bad insulting Strong Sad.		:::::An explanation for McArby would be that it's all 'directed' by Strong Sad in order to portray his fantasies of getting revenge on the rest of the characters. This is seen prominently in a talk with Homestar Runner in the same 'toon and Strong Bad insulting Strong Sad.
	:::::But, really, the best explanation for this question is, as [[User:Ted\|Ted]] would say, 'It's just a cratoon.' - {{User:Catjaz63/sig}} 01:56, 15 July 2015 (UTC)		:::::But, really, the best explanation for this question is, as [[User:Ted\|Ted]] would say, 'It's just a cratoon.' - {{User:Catjaz63/sig}} 01:56, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
		+	::::::Agreed. <small>But what a cratoon. Everybody loves the it. It is a terrific body of work. Peoples all the time debate about their flavorite dumb animal characters dying. IT HAS ITS OWN WIKI EVEN</small> --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 02:12, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Catjaz63: /* Homestar and Marzipan Die? */

Catjaz63 — Wed, 15 Jul 2015 01:56:26 GMT

Homestar and Marzipan Die?

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	::::In short, if Strong Bad and Wibe Chimendez could feasibly meet (er, let's say Strong Bad saw his grave, since that's more likely), then The Homestar et al are actors within the Homestar universe. If Matt filmed himself walking into a library and finding Wibe's obituary, then the Old-Timey characters would be as genuine as Homestar. And more importantly, even if they are actors, the Old-Timey characters they portray are the ones we are focusing on, since we were focusing on [[A Decemberween Mackerel\|Homsar's supposed death]] even though Matt could do his voice afterwards if he chose to.		::::In short, if Strong Bad and Wibe Chimendez could feasibly meet (er, let's say Strong Bad saw his grave, since that's more likely), then The Homestar et al are actors within the Homestar universe. If Matt filmed himself walking into a library and finding Wibe's obituary, then the Old-Timey characters would be as genuine as Homestar. And more importantly, even if they are actors, the Old-Timey characters they portray are the ones we are focusing on, since we were focusing on [[A Decemberween Mackerel\|Homsar's supposed death]] even though Matt could do his voice afterwards if he chose to.
	::::<small>...and what if Wibe Chimendez was a Teen Girl Squad character? What then? I totally always look awesome hypothesizing backwards meta</small> --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 01:08, 15 July 2015 (UTC)		::::<small>...and what if Wibe Chimendez was a Teen Girl Squad character? What then? I totally always look awesome hypothesizing backwards meta</small> --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 01:08, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
		+	:::::An explanation for McArby would be that it's all 'directed' by Strong Sad in order to portray his fantasies of getting revenge on the rest of the characters. This is seen prominently in a talk with Homestar Runner in the same 'toon and Strong Bad insulting Strong Sad.
		+	:::::But, really, the best explanation for this question is, as [[User:Ted\|Ted]] would say, 'It's just a cratoon.' - {{User:Catjaz63/sig}} 01:56, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Purple Wrench: MAIN PAGE 23 TAKE ONE - AIRCTION

Purple Wrench — Wed, 15 Jul 2015 01:08:25 GMT

MAIN PAGE 23 TAKE ONE - AIRCTION

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	::Unless of course you believe that he's really an animatronic that whole time, as he is in [[sbemail206]]. --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 10:50, 14 July 2015 (UTC)		::Unless of course you believe that he's really an animatronic that whole time, as he is in [[sbemail206]]. --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 10:50, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
	:::You guys do also know that these are productions and the characters are actors in the Old-Timey's and not regular days in their every day-to-day life in the modern 'toons? - {{User:Catjaz63/sig}} 11:34, 14 July 2015 (UTC)		:::You guys do also know that these are productions and the characters are actors in the Old-Timey's and not regular days in their every day-to-day life in the modern 'toons? - {{User:Catjaz63/sig}} 11:34, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
		+	::::Now we're heading into a grey area (no pun intended). It appears that they are actors, but really the same can be said about their modern counterparts. (for example, Marzipan in [[Doomy Tales of the Macabre]] reading her lines). The question is, who is doing the direction/editing/camerawork for each series? We can assume it's The Brothers Chaps in the vanilla 'toons, but we don't really know who is supposed to be behind the Old-Timey stuff. Are the film crew fictional characters in the Homestar universe, or should we perceive them as real people like Mike and Matt... or at least fictional people from the real world we inhabit? The fake names like "Wibe Chimendez" aren't relevant here, they could just be pseudo-names<!--it's -nym! aghh!--> for folks who are supposedly real.
		+	::::In short, if Strong Bad and Wibe Chimendez could feasibly meet (er, let's say Strong Bad saw his grave, since that's more likely), then The Homestar et al are actors within the Homestar universe. If Matt filmed himself walking into a library and finding Wibe's obituary, then the Old-Timey characters would be as genuine as Homestar. And more importantly, even if they are actors, the Old-Timey characters they portray are the ones we are focusing on, since we were focusing on [[A Decemberween Mackerel\|Homsar's supposed death]] even though Matt could do his voice afterwards if he chose to.
		+	::::<small>...and what if Wibe Chimendez was a Teen Girl Squad character? What then? I totally always look awesome hypothesizing backwards meta</small> --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 01:08, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Catjaz63: we turn science fiction into science faction

Catjaz63 — Tue, 14 Jul 2015 11:34:49 GMT

we turn science fiction into science faction

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	::Ah... but we ''do'' see The Homestar again in [[April Fool 2014]]. He's doing as well as he was previously. So we can say based on that logic that Marzipan is also likely okay.		::Ah... but we ''do'' see The Homestar again in [[April Fool 2014]]. He's doing as well as he was previously. So we can say based on that logic that Marzipan is also likely okay.
	::Unless of course you believe that he's really an animatronic that whole time, as he is in [[sbemail206]]. --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 10:50, 14 July 2015 (UTC)		::Unless of course you believe that he's really an animatronic that whole time, as he is in [[sbemail206]]. --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 10:50, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
		+	:::You guys do also know that these are productions and the characters are actors in the Old-Timey's and not regular days in their every day-to-day life in the modern 'toons? - {{User:Catjaz63/sig}} 11:34, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Purple Wrench: except we see him again

Purple Wrench — Tue, 14 Jul 2015 10:50:26 GMT

except we see him again

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	In one scene, we see The Homestar and Marzipan about to die in the factory, and after that, we never see them again. Does this deserve a mention?		In one scene, we see The Homestar and Marzipan about to die in the factory, and after that, we never see them again. Does this deserve a mention?
	:A mention of what exactly? Anything beyond "there's this weird, misplaced scene and we don't know what happened afterward" would be speculation. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:31, 13 July 2015 (UTC)		:A mention of what exactly? Anything beyond "there's this weird, misplaced scene and we don't know what happened afterward" would be speculation. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:31, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
		+	::Ah... but we ''do'' see The Homestar again in [[April Fool 2014]]. He's doing as well as he was previously. So we can say based on that logic that Marzipan is also likely okay.
		+	::Unless of course you believe that he's really an animatronic that whole time, as he is in [[sbemail206]]. --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 10:50, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Defender1031: /* Homestar and Marzipan Die? */ no.

Defender1031 — Mon, 13 Jul 2015 21:31:21 GMT

Homestar and Marzipan Die?: no.

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	In one scene, we see The Homestar and Marzipan about to die in the factory, and after that, we never see them again. Does this deserve a mention?		In one scene, we see The Homestar and Marzipan about to die in the factory, and after that, we never see them again. Does this deserve a mention?
		+	:A mention of what exactly? Anything beyond "there's this weird, misplaced scene and we don't know what happened afterward" would be speculation. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:31, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

YoghNess: /**/Homestar and Marzipan Die?

YoghNess — Mon, 13 Jul 2015 18:12:49 GMT

: Homestar and Marzipan Die?

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	::Well, Strong Man seems to make it from them to Sickly Sam in just one jump. (Though granted, there's nothing indicating how far Strong Man can jump, or even if that was the same jump.) -[[User:WarthogDemon\|WarthogDemon]] 17:39, 22 November 2009 (UTC)		::Well, Strong Man seems to make it from them to Sickly Sam in just one jump. (Though granted, there's nothing indicating how far Strong Man can jump, or even if that was the same jump.) -[[User:WarthogDemon\|WarthogDemon]] 17:39, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
	:::exactly. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:53, 22 November 2009 (UTC)		:::exactly. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:53, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
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		+	== Homestar and Marzipan Die? ==
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		+	In one scene, we see The Homestar and Marzipan about to die in the factory, and after that, we never see them again. Does this deserve a mention?