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			<title>Stux:&amp;#32;/* English Language link */ note</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:For a short-term solution, I would advocate making [[HRWiki:Welcome/en]] a redirect to [[HRWiki:About]] for now, I think. (For other readers, see the related discussion at [[HRWiki talk:Welcome]].) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:41, 10 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:For a short-term solution, I would advocate making [[HRWiki:Welcome/en]] a redirect to [[HRWiki:About]] for now, I think. (For other readers, see the related discussion at [[HRWiki talk:Welcome]].) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:41, 10 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 21:16:10 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>Stux</dc:creator>			<comments>http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Template_talk:welcomelinks</comments>		</item>
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			<title>Trey56:&amp;#32;/* English Language link */ initial reply to Stux's questions that I missed</title>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;English Language link:&amp;#32;&lt;/span&gt; initial reply to Stux&amp;#39;s questions that I missed&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;#Given the above point, and my previous question of adding an english-language link, I think the best option would be to include the [[Main Page]] as the english link. Especially since there's [[Talk:Main_Page#Redesign_of_Main_Page_for_Welcome_Page_Project|talk]] of a redesign.&amp;nbsp; I'll voice my opinions on that issue (reflecting some of these) later. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;#Given the above point, and my previous question of adding an english-language link, I think the best option would be to include the [[Main Page]] as the english link. Especially since there's [[Talk:Main_Page#Redesign_of_Main_Page_for_Welcome_Page_Project|talk]] of a redesign.&amp;nbsp; I'll voice my opinions on that issue (reflecting some of these) later. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;That's it.&amp;nbsp; --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:06, 7 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;That's it.&amp;nbsp; --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:06, 7 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 23:41:44 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>Trey56</dc:creator>			<comments>http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Template_talk:welcomelinks</comments>		</item>
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			<title>Stux:&amp;#32;English Language link</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;== English Language link ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it would make sense for this list to also contain a link to an appropriate english-language welcome page.  I was thinking [[HRWiki:Introduction]] but it doesn't seem quite right. Perhaps [[HRWiki:About]] is more appropriate?  The nice thing I like about these pages is that they serve as an all-in-one &amp;quot;welcome&amp;quot; portal for foreign-language speakers. &amp;lt;run on sentence&amp;gt;Of course given that these are smaller, they serve three purposes: '''1.''' serve as a &amp;quot;language-specific main page/hr portal&amp;quot;, '''2.''' introduce the wiki (what it is to new users) -- er ok not really after reading the spanish version (but maybe it should!),  and '''3.''' explain users how the subtitles system works.&amp;lt;/run on sentence&amp;gt;  I'm starting to realize that I'm trying to hit many points here all at once.  So I'll make another list! Er, here goes:&lt;br /&gt;
#Where did you guys get the english-version template for these welcome pages? I don't see it.  It would be very useful for future welcome-page translators to find it easily (a link can be added to the [[:Category:International welcome pages|category]] or something.)&lt;br /&gt;
#Links to editing guides (with explicit mention that they are all in English) might be useful.&lt;br /&gt;
#Okay, this is a big one, so I'll try to be brief: these, being &amp;quot;Mini&amp;quot; Main pages, to me, point out links/information that's missing from the main page.  Mainly information for would-be editors.  Granted, wiki-ing can be complex, and the welcome templates try to help new users get acclimated, but I'd like to ask/postulate: we lack a compact and &amp;quot;centralized&amp;quot; new-editor resource, I think.  Do we need one? Would it be useful to somewhat condense and reorganize editor welcomed (yeah I'll copy this later to [[HRW:DB]]).  I'm posing these welcome pages as compact examples (sans the Subtitles instruction stuff).  Please stop me if I'm losing anybody. &lt;br /&gt;
#Given the above point, and my previous question of adding an english-language link, I think the best option would be to include the [[Main Page]] as the english link. Especially since there's [[Talk:Main_Page#Redesign_of_Main_Page_for_Welcome_Page_Project|talk]] of a redesign.  I'll voice my opinions on that issue (reflecting some of these) later. &lt;br /&gt;
That's it.  --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:06, 7 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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