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Talk:Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?

2005-12-27T06:02:42Z

AnarchyBalsac:

== Shrinky Hat ==

If you watch closely, Homsar's hat shrinks while he's saying that he's a trendy totebag. The only other time I've seen it change was in his character video.-[[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]
:Odd... I don't see any shrinking. But... maybe thats just me. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:45, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
::It is just you. Right on the word "trendy," it gets real big for one frame and then smaller than usual for one frame, then back to normal. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:31, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
===Fly like a... something===
{{stufffact|The "raspberry noises" Homsar makes when he moves resembles the noises the "Boobahs" make when they fly in the show of the same name.}}
{{stuffverdict|08:20, 6 November 2005 (UTC)|19:48, 9 November 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|14|0|Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?}}

== Real Estate ==

Homsar speaks in metaphors. He doesn't actually think that the letter "G" is a "healthy peice of real estate", rather he was saying that it was a nice letter.

User talk:AnarchyBalsac

2005-12-27T05:30:03Z

AnarchyBalsac: /* Creating new STUFF */

== Signatures ==

To make a signature, just type "--<nowiki>~~~</nowiki>". That puts a link to your page automatically. If you click "preferences", you can change how you want your signature to look. I just thought I'd tell you since I noticed you typed <nowiki>"--[[AnarchyBalsac]]"</nowiki> every time, and the link was broken. And happy editing... [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
** Thanks, that helps --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

== STUFF votes ==

When you vote on STUFF, please just put a "#" sign instead of the number, along with your signature. It improves the layout. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:41, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Can do --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

== What's in a Name? ==

Hi Guys. Excuse me, but what does your name mean? Just curious. Please reply on my talk page. _[[User:Elvis|Elvis]]_

== Creating new STUFF ==

If you need instructions, see [[HRWiki:STUFF/Newpage]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:07, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
:I did see that, but the '''exact''' syntax is what I had trouble with. I'll probably post my stuff later this week I'm just feeling lazy right now.
::Well, it's hard to help you if you don't tell me what the problem is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:22, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
::I posted it on the discussion page for stuff silly :)

User talk:AnarchyBalsac

2005-12-27T05:16:48Z

AnarchyBalsac: /* Creating new STUFF */

HRWiki talk:STUFF

2005-12-27T05:06:13Z

AnarchyBalsac:

==Show Page Problem?==
When I attempt to add my name to a vote and click "show page", it brings me up to that toon's stuff page (ie STUFF/mile) rather than the original STUFF page with all the facts on it. Is this a glitch? Its a little troublesome to have to click back and then back again to get back to the STUFF page. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:23, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: It's normal, because the only edits to the actual STUFF page are adding more subpages. There's a "back to STUFF index" link on every fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:58, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::got it. thanks~ --[[User:Tony Stony|<nowiki></nowiki>]][[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony<nowiki></nowiki>]] 16:59, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Good Jorb ==
Much, MUCH better, guys. Great job. ''{gives round of applause}'' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 18:38, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I agree. Well done It's Dot Com, Tom, Jay, and anyone else who was involved with this. This incarnation of stuff should really cut down on the flaming and the confusion of the old way. One question: what if the vote is a tie when two weeks is up? Do we go into sudden death? (exprobably not) Does decline win automatically? (would make sense to me) Accept?-- {{User:Tony_Stony/sig}} 19:04, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I also agree, it looks great! I think that if the two weeks are up and it's a tie, then it just stays up longer until the tie is broken. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:11, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I actually ''used'' it for real the first time today, and it is ''so easy'' to see at a glance how each fact is doyng. I mean ''doing''. I'm really glad we got this done. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:17, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:And now I have gotten to STUFF two new real facts using the new method—so simple, anyone could use it! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:50, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It looks great! Much more easier, although it takes a little longer to add a new fun fact, it's still way better! And it's really easy to count the votes! Thank you to all that were involved in re-organising STUFF (Jay did the tedious work of launching STUFF, changing all the fun facts to the new templates and everything). {{User:Rainer/sig}} 05:49, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: I just did the grunt work. I helped with a little of the formatting stuff, but most of the design (as far as I see it) was IDC's. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:55, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, that's what I meant. I also like how you can now add individual STUFF'd fun facts to your watchlist, instead of watching the whole page. I used to never go to STUFF because of how messy it was, but now I visit the page heaps. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 06:05, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

''gasp!'' Oh. My. Gods. I. Love. It. Oh. So. Much! [[User:single deuce|single deuce]] 1:08, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Candidates for speedy verdicts ==
I propose the following guidelines for closing facts before the two-week time period is complete:
* After 4 days, a unanimous vote of at least 8
* After 1 week, a unanimous vote of any number
* After 1 week, a vote in which one side has at least 8 more votes than the other AND the ratio of votes is at least 3 to 1 (for example: 9 to 1, 12 to 4, 15 to 5)
— [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:17, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

That's pretty close to the criteria that I use(d) to close STUFFs quickly. I have been known to close a STUFF that's 10-0 (or higher) after just a couple of days though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:31, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah, I've never had a problem with items being closed that are just taking up space. I wrote these guidelines not too long ago in an attempt to codify our policy. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:39, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::I've taken your advice and closed a couple of items quite early when they met the following criteria: unanimous or overwhelming vote with a double-digit lead. "Overwhelming" to me is a vote ratio of at least 4 to 1, preferably 6 or more to 1. The sooner it's closed after opening, the bigger the lead has to be. Also, if nobody votes on an item for over a day, but other items are heavily traficked, then (again, depending on the vote) it might be time to shut the former down. Judging these is becoming as much an art as a science. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:47, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Verdicts ==
For verdicts, we can either move the items to the talk pages (like we do now), or they could be moved to a different subpage, like '''HRWIKI:STUFF Archive/pagename''', for example. If we use an archive subpage, we should put a reference link on the talk page with the fact in question and the verdict.<div style="text-indent:2em">As items close, they should definitely be ''moved'' somewhere. Otherwise, if down the line someone STUFFs something new from a page, all the old, closed facts will still be there. Once a template subpage is empty (all the facts have closed), the template subpage should be deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:13, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)</div>
:Okay, I've set up some more templates and closed some facts. I think the verdict notices should move to the respective talk pages after a few days or so; then the STUFF templates can be deleted and the STUFF links can be removed from the articles. I've got to run right now, but tomorrow I'll write up the procedures for closing items. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:51, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::All right, I've written the instructions for '''[[HRWiki:STUFF/Verdict|How to close an item]]'''. The instructions are not for novices, so I don't know whether they should go on the main STUFF page or not. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:49, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Doesn't fix everything ==

Apparently, as cool as this system is, there's still the plague of "Accepting a fact because I like it, even if it's not (or questionably) factual." I'm especially disappointed in three of my fellow sysops for voting for such a fact, all of whom I thought had more sense than that. And... I just needed to get that off my chest. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:47, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:I'm disappointed that you beat around the bush instead of just saying that the fact is "You said doyng" and that I'm one of the sysops you're disappointed in. And I happen to think that the fact is true true true. Strong Bad lingers on that word far longer than any other word in that email. Disagreeing is fine, and accusing me outright of not having any sense is fine (although I can't speak for others), but there's no need to be all passive-aggressive. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 18:22, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Gosh! I thought he was talking about the "[[Talk:do_over#Change_of_Pace_(ACCEPTED)|Change of Pace]]" Family Guy reference! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:28, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::"Change of pace" was the old system. "Doyng" is on the new system and has three sysops in the "accept" column. (I was the one who originally stuffed and defended it.) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 18:33, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Strictly speaking, I didn't accuse you of having NO sense. Anyway, I just needed to rant. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:01, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::That's true, that's true. You wouldn't be the first though. :p {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 02:48, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Neutral Voting==

I'd like to see a column for neutral votes. Sometimes I'd like to be able to express my opinion on an item, even if my opinion is just "meh". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:No. Take a stand, one way or the other. A neutral vote is no vote at all, and just takes up space. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:13, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::With the new format, voting doesn't take up nearly much screen space. You're correct when you state that a neutral vote is no vote at all. But it does express an opinion. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:16, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::An opinion of "meh" is not useful. Nobody cares if another user doesn't care, you know? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 18:19, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::Shrug. Personally, I thought neutral voting was an interesting and useful part of the old STUFF system. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::BTW "neutral" doesn't necessarily mean "I don't care". If you don't care, don't vote! To me Neutral meant "I'm interested but I'm not sure" or "I'm thinking about it" or "Convince me". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:26, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::That's a reasonable point. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 18:35, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::The arguments are there to convince you. A couple of times now, I've made up my mind (and even changed it) based on some good arguments. But I don't think we should have to write ''more'' arguments to sway those on the fence. For one, if the vote is close, there will be plenty of arguments to read, and if it's not close, one vote in the other direction isn't going to make that much of a difference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:39, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Lawmakers (as an example) don't have to vote only "Yea" or "Nay" on a given subject . They have two other options. They can choose not to vote or they can abstain. You could look at a "neutral" vote as an abstention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::::That's a distinction without a difference. Not voting and officially abstaining have exactly the same effect: '''nothing'''. In our system, one must truly ''decide'' what his or her vote is, and only then does it go on record. I'll say again: you gotta take a stand. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:25, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::The difference is that abstaining is not anonymous. You've gone on the record, albieit blandly. Personally, I like to know who is on the fence (although you didn't always know that with the old system either). Obviously, the new system works fine without neutral voting. I just miss it a little. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:50, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::::::::As far as caring who the neutral voters are, I'll just say this: Meh. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:08, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: Neutral votes in the old format were meant for adding comments without the comment being counted as a vote. But we can do that with this system anyway. Since you can just elect not to vote, there really doesn't seem much point for a "Neutral" vote. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:: I agree, what's the ppoint of a neutral vote? Anyone who hasn't voted is a neutral vote. There's no reason to have it. If you haven't chosen a side, don't vote! If you haven;t chosen a side but want toi state a comment, use the super handy ultra cool comments section. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 01:26, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==How Did I Get Here?==
Is there an easier way to get to the main STUFF page? I have to search it every time I want to come here. If not, can we put a link on the [[Main Page]] or the sidebar under navigation so we can vote on our lovely STUFF? [[User:single deuce|single deuce]] 00:06, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)
* [[The Stick]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:09, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)
** Not bad, not bad. Clicking two links vs. typing one search. I'll have to decide. Thanks, Jay. [[User:single deuce|single deuce]] 00:51, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)
***Plus, [[STUFF]] redirects here. That's only five letters! - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
****Incidentally, so does [[stuff]]. That doesn't even require ''shift''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

== Fake User Names or Unlogged Regulars? ==

I haven't been deleting votes from some IPs because they use the User Names of regulars. But now IPs have been voting with user names that don't seem to be real (for instance, [[User:Mix Ma$ta'|Mix Ma$ta']] has made [[Special:Contributions/Mix Ma$ta'|zero edits]].) What to do? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:42, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:I've been noticing this, and been thinking, "uh oh." I think all anonymous-ip votes need to be deleted, even if it is the known ip of a regular user. We should draw the line at "Must be logged in." Period. This would take a lot of work to maintain, though. But it would be worth it if we could stop any exploiting of the system. -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:46, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::"You must be logged in when you vote" was one of the original instructions I wrote for the page, but I haven't been enforcing it for known users because I didn't want to come across as too strict. It always peeves me a little, though, when users don't log in. (I usually just ''stay'' logged in, although I know all users don't have their own computer and thus can't do so. But signing in seriously takes about 6 seconds, so there's no good excuse for not.) Concerning Mix Ma$ta', it seems an anonymous IP created a userpage but not an account. That's... unusual. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:50, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::: I'm not so sure that it IS that unusual... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:35, 7 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:: Sorry for being late, but... "Mix Ma$ta" is actually a nickname for "[[HRFWiki:The Mu|The Mu]]," a common fanstuff wiki user. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

== I have a question ==

Is there a link to the stuff pages, because it's kinda tiring searching for the stuff'd things.

:I think what you are asking for is all here: [[HRWiki:STUFF]] -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 14:09, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)

No, I mean like let's say the new strong bad email, I wanna link to the page of the strong bad email stuff'd facts.

== End of witty comments ==

Thank god for this new system. Finally, I don't have to put up with people who type "DECLINATION TO THE MOOOON!!!!!!" rather than just "Decline." That stuff can be annoying after awhile. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 07:02, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== I think I know why some people write stupid Fun Facts. ==

It's just that they are so exicted to see their addiditons to the Wiki. -Kinsey
:That's very true. (But we've still gotta weed 'em out.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:10, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:P.S. I mentioned this earlier, but it might have gotten lost in all the hustle and bustle: A quick tip: You can sign your name on talk pages simply by typing four tildes (<tt><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></tt>). That will automatically create a link to your user page and a timestamp.

== Clean Up ==

It seems like there are too many completed fun facts on the STUFF page. It needs to be cleaned out. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 11:51, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:They get cleared about every two weeks or so. I went ahead and did it this morning. I must say, though, that even though there were a lot of closed items on the page, thanks to the new format it was still quite tidy. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:58, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Table of Contents ==
I used the wonder of "show preview" to see what this page would be like with a table of contents. What I found was a useful and non-obtrusive link to all the fun facts. Maybe we should add it to the page? - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 03:47, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
: I checked it out too, and I agree. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:58, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Two reasons not: First, the page is designed to make you, or at least hopefully a new user, read the instructions. Second, it's designed to make users scroll across various items. That way, if anything is new (like a revision) or if they forgot to vote on an item, they'll notice it.<div style="text-indent:1.5em">If you've already voted on older items, that's okay, because the newer items are always at the top, and scrolling past the instructions really isn't that far. Also, whenever you reach a STUFF subpage from an article, it always takes you directly there. Then, when you click "back to STUFF index", it takes you to the top of the items, not the top of the page. Finally, because we are doing a better job clearing out items, there often aren't very many on the page (in fact, a couple of days ago there were only ''two'' open items). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:59, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)</div>

== My eyes! ==

Ahh! What;s with the new STUFF colors? They are blinding! Please, reconsider your choice of colors,at leat maked it match with the wiki's colors (which seem to be blue and white, or grey maybe) Thanks for reading, have a nice tray-er.. day. - [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 00:28, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
:Where are you talking about, exactly? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:31, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
::The bright yellow tables, in my opinion they do not go well with the white background.. - [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 22:51, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I'm afraid I still don't know which ones you mean. If you're talking about the ones that show you where to put arguments and votes, then that's the way it's always been since the overhaul several months ago. If you're talking about the headers, then I must disagree with you. They look way better than they used to; they're actually legible now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:39, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
::::I'm tlaking about the tables at the top, with the links to how to STUFF a fact, how to votew, and those things. Couldn't they be light blue? Yellow just clashes with the blue and white theme of the wiki. - [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 16:12, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::I'm agreeing with Ju Ju Master here. They don't look very...wiki-ish. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::::::Not "wiki-ish"? Maybe you should look at this [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Introduction|Wikipedia page]], which has exactly the same format. At any rate, the yellow of the tables was chosen specifically to ''contrast'' with the blue of the links and the highlights, and also to draw attention so that people might actually see them. As for that particular yellow, it has been in use here for months, and it's a muted yellow—hardly what someone could call blinding. If you want to see light blue and gray, just scroll down to the items. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:19, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::This was a long time ago, but yeah, I 'gree with dot com. It looks fine like this, and now you can read it. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:16, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

==Edit links for every voting list?==
''{copied from [[Template:STUFF/Fall_Float_Parade]]}'': 
Would it be too much to alter the template so that revisions also have their own edit button? I think it would be much helpful and less confusing. EVEN BETTER: have each vote section (for and against) have their own edit buttons so that people can be sure to be voting in the right section.) I know this belongs in some talk page somewhere, but I don't know where and I do not feel like looking for it right now. Thanks! — [[User:Stux|Stux]]
:'''Strongly''' seconded!! When a fact gets three or so revisions, and say you want to vote for the second one, scrolling through all the code and still getting your vote into the right place can be frustrating at best, and potentially bewildering for the inexperienced! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:14, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
::I've always wondered why we don't have an [edit] tab for revisions... Tis frustrating sometimes. Full support here. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
You must grant, however, that a fact with two or three revisions is quite unusual. And often people need to switch their vote in order to vote for a revision, or they may need to decline more than one revision at once. That said, I will look into adding this feature. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:26, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
:P.S. An edit button for each column (accepts and declines) seems excessive. If people can't review their vote after it's been cast, then they'll be no better off than the Floridians who couldn't tell whether they had punched a chad on their ballots or not. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::'''Second''' It would be quite simple, really. Just replacing the <big> tags around the code with ''<nowiki>=====</nowiki>'' would do it. Perhaps a note should be left [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template_talk:stuffrevise&action=edit here]? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:28, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
:::That didn't work. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:41, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
:Actually, I'm ''not'' so convinced of the rarity of multiple revisions; seems like the STUFFs for most of the last few major 'toons have included them. I agree, though, that it would be unfortunate to lose the ability to edit multiple revisions at once. Maybe it could be like Fun Facts, where there's one edit link for all of Fun Facts and then individual ones for the sub-headings? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:47, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
::Looking over the archives, even for recent toons, it's not that common, although it has happened a bit more because people have been a little haphazard with the revisions. Making the revision into a subsection was exactly what I tried to do, but it screwed up all the sections, such that when I clicked on edit all I got was a blank screen. I'll research it more when I have some time to concentrate on it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:54, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
:::The headers did not work correctly? Strange. I do remember encountering some time ago a page that, when rendered, had the edit buttons point to the wrong section? Perhaps the fact that we're using templates to introduce the indices and in reality cannot edit the template'd code without a <Code>subst</CoDE> may be the reason why you're getting empty pages. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:40, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

== Stuff Voting Procedure ==

I've noticed for some time now that the current voting procedure is rather biased when we are dealing with facts that have proposed revisions. What I mean is that when a fun fact in question has a revision posted for voting, the vote is humongously biased against declining both votes.
What do I mean by this? I we see [[Template:STUFF/Fall_Float_Parade|the vote]] for the first fact '' Ouch! Buzz Buzz Buzz'' and its two revisions. Anybody can vote to decline all three revisions.

That is one voter can affect the decline vote of all three revisions. However, that same voter can only vote positively in one of the three revisions listed. They do have the option to decline the other revisions, but can only accept one. Here is the bias: suppose we have 10 voters voting for the aforementioned revision. Each revision can each have up to 10 decline votes. Thus making it look like 30 people voted. However the accept votes must be (understandably) divided by the 10 people voting. This makes it *really* easy for a fun fact to be completely declined by a minority of voters. Yes voters can change their votes to other revisions, but they must generally be actively notified of such need by other interested voters (in a form of ''voter's activism''). If you add up the number of accept votes, it is clear that the voters want some form of the fact to be accepted. But like i said the bias will likely land the fun fact declined. Don't you just love politics?
I couldn't think of a reasonable voting scheme alternative until now: we could make the declines vote an alternative "revision". That is if we have a fun fact that has a revision, then we'd have:
#the original fact (vote only to accept)
#revision 1 (vote only to accept)
#revision 2 (vote only to accept)
#decline votes (all votes of people who decline all 3 revisions)
Voters would only be allowed to vote on one of these 4 categories. Thus the vote is evenly divided between the 4 options. Actually, even this proposed revision has bias in it. (a 1/4th majority would only be needed to decline the revision). A better tally would be to have the decline votes outnumber the sum of revision votes (i.e. 1/2 of voters have to vote to decline). ''Optional:'' If the revisions win, and the decline votes have a majority (i.e. less than 1/2 voters, but greater than the votes for any of the other 3 revisions), then a revote can be made so that those who declined the fact can vote for whatever revision they deem best. (Or they could do so preemptively, have a "secondary vote" in case the declines lose). ''end optional section.''

It's a mess, I know. ''Fair'' voting isn't easy to achieve, and is still being [http://www.electionline.org/ hotly debated] by many scholars and politicians alike. Some real-world proposals range from a staggered voting scheme (everyone votes for their #1 candidate choice, their #2 choice, and so on; ties are broken by the #2, #3 choices, etc.), a weighed voting scheme (like the staggered, only that the #1 choice has a certain amount of points, #2 has less points, etc. and the winner would get the sum of points -- much like the way racing videogames determine the winner of a circuit), and the "let it be" scheme (that is, the way the US system works and many other countries). Some of the newer schemes have been implemented in countries in Australia and England if I remember correctly. Every system has its own inherent bias unfortunately. Not many people realize that the vote can be influenced simply by choosing a different voting scheme that "seems" fair. Personally, I don't mind the US voting system at all, recent controversies and all. The recent german vote, to me, seemed stranger than anything. (''Wow, what a tangent!'', anyway back to the topic.) You may say that the current STUFF scheme resembles the US system, but it does not: the US system does not have a "decline" option to where you couldn't have a president or senator or governor take office. You must choose "one of the lesser evils". With STUFF, things are different. The ''decline'' option introduces a whole new set of complexities that must be appropriately dealt with. 
--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:29, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Oh and I forgot: on the technical side of things, if the above proposition, or one similar to it is adopted, we may likely need to create new templates so as to not mess our current vote archives since their inherent structures are different. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:31, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

:It took me a lot of reading and re-reading, but I think I finally got my brain up to speed with what you're saying. My first response was "Of course someone can vote against all but only for one! What if someone doesn't approve of ''any'' of them? But we can't have multiple versions of the fact on the page, so someone can only ''approve'' one." But then I tried harder to understand your proposal: You're saying that voting for a given revision ''assumes'' a decline for the other revisions, right? I.e. if I vote for #3 I don't have to explicitly vote ''against'' #s 1 & 2. Thus the "vote only to accept" stuff; at the end we'd just award it to the revision with the most votes. You lost me with the part about the 1/4th majority; wouldn't it only take one voter more than the winning revision had to decline it? I.e. if the voting breaks down 1-3-2, then it would only take the remaining 4 voters to decline it.
:But moving on from understanding your concerns to critiquing them: This would involve difficulties of notifying people who've already voted as well. Every vote with revisions starts its life as a simple "up or down vote" (to use a trendy phrase). Presumably some will start voting for it and some against it. Now a revision's introduced. We change both to "vote only to accept"—and do what with the existing declines? They can't be assumed to be decline-alls. We'd have to notify them and ask them to come back and take a stand on the current revision; either vote for the new one or decline all. This would have to be ''repeated'' with each new revision!
:Mightn't a simpler answer be to keep the current system and somehow automatically notify previous voters when a revision is made? (Or make the reviser manually do it, but I don't like that idea.) But also there's a compelling argument for simply letting ''voter activism'' and ''voter apathy'' take their natural courses. After all, we're not electing the next president; outsiders have more than once marvelled at how deathly serious we take things around here, for fans of '''a cartoon'''. One could argue that if one cares enough about their vote they can jolly well check up on it, or conversely if someone can't be bothered to log in more than once a month and their vote gets wasted, tough cookies to them. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:58, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Excuse my ignorance, but why vote at all? Just add it the same way everything else is. If a single item is disputed then "vote" or discuss it if necessary. [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] 04:16, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

:Good question, Broken Segue. The reason, as far as I can tell, is that we have disputes about our Fun Facts ''all the time''. I don't know what it's like at Wikipedia, but people debate whether or not x is a reference to y on a regular basis. Originially, STUFF was largely just a vote/discussion (look at the votes archived on talk pages before this summer for examples). It was changed because we had trouble with things like ''ad hominem'' attacks on people during the voting and because the votes and arguments were getting confusing (for the most famous example of this, see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Talk:do_over#Change_of_Pace_.28ACCEPTED.29 this infamous debate]. The newer procedure is cleaner and, IMHO, easier to use. I suppose if we didn't have disputes about Fun Facts so often, it wouldn't be necessary, but as the situation here is now, I find it useful. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 04:31, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::wow, you are right. Sounds like some people need to take some chill pills. That's the problem when not all facts need to be verified from a source...it's all just speculation. Still, you could approve the general idea of a fact and iron out the wording later. It seems silly to have 3 alternate versions with different wordings. The issue is, is the fact true. [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] 04:49, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
:::First off, thank you all for your thorough and well thought out responses. I know it presented a lot to digest. To clarify things: I realize now that I made a mistake when I stated thr 1/4th majority for the decline votes. I mistakenly assumed that the other three votes were evenly distributed, then a 1/4th majority in the declines would work, but that may not always be the case of course. Abdi's example makes more sense: all you need is one more vote than the leader to decline: so if the accept revision vote is 1-3-2 and the decline vote is 4, then all three revisions get declined even though there are 6 voters in favor of some sort of revision.

:::You can see that this is exactly the same thing that is currently going on: take the same 10 voters, those who voted accept voted 1-3-2 as in the example before, and suppose they abstained from declining the others. Now suppose just 4 ''different'' voters voted decline on each of the three revisions. All three revisions will easily get declined. The votes would be worse if those who voted accept for some revisions vote decline for the others. See what I mean? Not even ''voter apathy'' is required to turn down revisions, those who want to see revisions passed must actually fight an ''uphill battle'' to do so (they'd have to convince all the other voters to "switch to their side" and "gang up" against the naysayers).

:::You are right though Abdi, it is a hassle in ''any'' case to have to have people come back and vote again on the same thing twice (unless a new revision was proposed between the time they voted and "now"). However, their vote should not be ''weakened'' simply because a new revision was proposed. The original Wikipedia voting system (from which I assume this was derived) does not quite have the problem since i've only seen it being used for keep/delete votes for pages. They have no need to make revisions and so they don't run into this problem.

:::BrokenSegue's idea is a very good one (I was thinking about something like it but couldn't come up with something decent): have two different types of votes within the same topic. One would be wether you want to accept the fun fact ''or some sort of revision for it,'' or just decline it altogether. The second vote would be for what revision you would vote for, including the original version (you could abstain from voting for any revision). The revision with the most votes would win, ''only if'' the accept votes defeated the decline votes. And it would be all done in one fell swoop. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:58, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I didn't read this whole discussion (because it was too darn long), so tell me if I didn't get the gist right. It has been evident to me for a while that we need to be able to accept the ''idea'' of an item separate from the actual wording. When the system was set up, it was pretty much unheard of to propose a ''revision'' to an item that was already on its way to being accepted. Revisions were a last resort when the original item was going down in flames. Lately, however, revisions have been a little more willy-nilly, to use a techinical term. What would be the fairest way to implement a change? A third column, perhaps? (Forgive me if this is already mentioned above, but I'm really in a hurry and am not going to read it before I post this reply.) "Accept if revision fails", or something like that? Or should we allow users to accept more than one revision? Somebody work up some mock-ups. I will when I get a chance later tonight or tomorrow. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:45, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::'''(Edit conflict)''' That [Stux's new proposal] has promise. I still can't quite imagine it in action, largely because it assumes that fairly often people will be strongly for or strongly against, but not care that much about the differences between revisions. On the contrary, taking the current STUFF as an example: the one about Marzi & bees and the one about Marshie both have three revisions, and I'm definitely in favor of ''one'' specific revision of each and very much against the others. I'm still not convinced that the inequity you're perceiving is really that inequitable: Without revisions, each vote is simply up or down. If we consider each revision individually, it still stands or falls based simply on votes for or against. If the accept votes have less agency, it's because they're disunified; they may ''or may not'' prefer a different revision to no fact at all. And again, if they ''are'' willing to switch their vote in order to see a revision win, the ball is in their court to do so.
:::::Now wait, a minute; for what I'm saying to be true (and I do think this is a possible solution), there would have to be a clearer statement of when a STUFF vote expires. I would probably hold out on my favored revision until the last minute, then switch to a secondary choice as the deadline got close. Without knowing ''when'' the last minute is, though, I'd probably sit tight. For it to really be equitable, we should have an automated system that notified people when facts they had a vote in were drawing to a close, since it's pretty naive to expect anyone to keep track of all of them (when you're putting STUFF deadlines in your DayPlanner, you know you're ''too'' involved with the Wiki!).
:::::But on another note, I'm not so concerned about it being hard to get a fact accepted. As BrokenSegue pointed out, pretty much every STUFF vote deals with issues that can't be proven evidentially (if, for instance, TBC say something about it in a commentary, then it would be silly to STUFF it). This ''is'' a knowledge base, and the goal should be to keep it as accurate as possible. While I think all these "maybes" and "possiblies" ''should'' be documented, since it's edifying to know about them, even if they're not proven, that already happens through the STUFF process itself and Talk page entries (like [[Talk:Arcade Game#fonzie?|this one]]). (Arguing against myself, though, if a majority of users like a fact and it still gets voted down, and can't subsequently be added since it's "been through STUFF," is that really the Wiki Way? I'm not sure I understand the Wiki Way. Which is more important, accuracy or equity?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:49, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::You guys are making this too complicated. There have been 202 items that have gone through the process since we adopted the new format, and every last one of them has been closed according to a consensus of voters. (Some votes, naturally, are closer calls than others.) The standard voting period is two weeks. This is usually twice as long as is necessary to determine the will of the community (sometimes it's ''fourteen times'' too long). After a week or so, I feel comfortable closing an item if it is currently enjoying a 3 to 1 ratio (either for or against) and has a minimum number of total votes. If something has been open only a few days, I use a standard of 4 or 5 to 1, depending. Items are usually closed immediately when the ratio reaches 20 to 1. At that point, if someone were going to propose a revision, they would have by that point. When deciding when to render verdicts, I also use common sense, such as the relative speculation in the item and whether heavy contributors have voted for or against it. I am quite confident in how things are going and believe that the process works. If there is ever a gray area (which is most rare), I leave a note on a talk page. If anyone believes the wrong verdict has been rendered, he or she can bring it up for appeal. Let me clarify that last statement. An appeal cannot be brought simply because one disagrees with the verdict; it must be shown that there was something wrong with the ''process''. Possible reasons would include new evidence not available at the time of the vote, a belief that the majority of voters misunderstood the question, voter fraud (unlikely but technically possible), or if the vote were closed too early (although, as I explained before, votes that are even remotely close are not closed before two weeks (and some are even held over a couple of days, just in case there are any stragglers (which there never have been (I believe due to the attention spans these days (okay, there are too many open parentheses here, so this will be the last nested one))))). There is only ''one'' item, by the way, that I myself would appeal, and it's from the old format days (and it's not even "the infamous one"). I just haven't gotten around to it. In the case of revisions, I am again confident that the best revision has made it into the articles. Also, note that there's nothing stopping people from discussing the wording of an accepted item and tweaking it later, so long as the ''essence'' of the item doesn't change (this has happened, incidentally). Goodness! I've written a novel here! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Hey, everybody's doin' it! And yeah, I lean back to my earlier statements that, while I see the math of your original concern, Stux, I'm not sure it's actually an operational inequity. If "accept" voters ''really, really'' wanted to overcome the free-ranging power of the decliners, they have simply to contact each other and move their votes to a popular candidate. If they can't conscience the popular version, or if they don't care enough about their vote to check on it within two weeks, then it's perfectly right for it to be declined. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:48, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Just one more question, Dot com: we ''have'' stopped using butterfly ballots, right? ;-) Seriously, though, I wanted to thank you for writing that novel; it answered some questions I've had for a long time but never gotten around to asking. I also wanted to weigh in and say that I, too, feel that the current system is a good one and probably doesn't need much tweaking. (Although I ''still'' can't decide how to vote on the "sensitive to bees" fact...) [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] [[Image:heimstern101.gif|22px]] 02:45, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

::::::::I know you were just joking, but the old version was ''very'' much like the type of confusion butterfly ballots (supposedly) caused, and the current system of clear-cut accepts/declines was devised to make things simple. Admittedly, revisions do make things sticky on occasion, which is why we have people watching out for the system. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:55, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::Oh, I'm definitely aware of the old system: If you look a little higher on this discussion, you'll see that I referred Broken Segue to the most infamously convoluted STUFF vote on the old system. I may not have been around at the time, but I have read a ''lot'' of old talk pages. And whenever I did, it was so freakin' confusing to read those cussed STUFF votes! Thus, I know that there was some truth behind the butterfly ballot joke. And I definitely prefer the new system. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] [[Image:heimstern101.gif|22px]] 03:10, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

==Another idea==
I don't mean to make the situation more complicated by adding more thoughts, but I think this idea is worth considering. I think this way is more wiki-ish and less bureaucratic. Why not let people create these votes only in opposition to already existing facts. It would work like this.: Person A adds Fact X to the article. Person B likes it, but rewords it slightly. Person C hates X and starts a vote to get it removed. The vote is, "should we keep this fact? yes or no?" During the vote people may reword it as they please or propose secondary version but there is just one vote for the fact. If X is voted down then it is removed never to be added again otherwise it stays. Terrible facts could be "speedily" removed without a vote. [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] 00:35, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
:Except for the "one vote for the fact" (if I'm interpreting that correctly), this is ''exactly'' how the process already works. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:12, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

== Source Code ==

I just tried to add a new section, but the source code provided a rather sloppy syntax. I think it needs to be cleared up. It's possible to use other templates and edit them to avoid this problem. However, the course should still be fixed in case there ever aren't any. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

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secret recipes

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AnarchyBalsac: /* Real-World References */ - "P.H. balanced", not made. I specifically remember those being the exact words.

[[Image:SBEmail 124.PNG|thumb|The horrible truth revealed!]]

'''Strong Bad Email #124'''

Strong Bad reveals some secret family recipes.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[King of Town's Castle]], [[Marzipan's House]]

'''Computer:''' [[Lappy 486]]

'''Date:''' February 14, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 4:04

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Email, na na, na na, na na, nanaNA...

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: family recipes</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
When we grow up we want to be chefs. We wanted to know 
if you had any secret family recipes that you would want 
to share with us so...we can make them! 
 
-Melissa and Hillary (from NJ)</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad reads "Dear Strong Bad" as "The usual" and "NJ" as "Nigeria"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well Mellie, Hillarious, being from Africa I'm sure you guys are used to eating, like, exotic fruits and nectars and, um, lions ''{clears screen, continues typing}'' so our recipes may seem a bit uncouth. ''{stops typing}'' Uncouth. ''{typing}'' Can something be just plain couth? I bet freakin' Strong Sad is plain couth. Anyways, Couthy, all our family recipes tend to center around the grossing out of or the making puke of friends and well-wishers.

''{The camera cuts back, and we see The Cheat laying on the computer desk flinging floppy disks all over.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat! Let's go try out Great Uncle Pawdabber's Pre-tend Ice Cream Showdown! ''{His legs kick to each syllable of Pre-tend Ice Cream Showdown.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises, possibly an enthusiastic "Okay!"}''

''{The Cheat stands up. The screen greys and the following text appears.}''

'''NARRATOR:''' Strong Bad may or may not have an actual Great Uncle Pawdabber.

''{Cut to the field. Coach Z is standing around holding a basketball.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Man, what is this thing? ''{bounces the basketball once}'' A bounce thing?

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat enter from the right. Strong Bad is holding what appears to be a bowl of ice cream with yellowish sprinkles, and The Cheat is wearing a towel around his waist.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh man, The Cheat! Wow! Look at this! It's our best friend, Coach Z. Say there, Coach, would you like to try some of our free icèd-c-cream? It's got toasted coconut!

'''COACH Z:''' How could I refuse? ''{throws the basketball over his shoulder}'' I can't afford the money-cost variety! ''{The basketball can be seen falling behind the trees in the background.}''

''{Coach Z takes the ice cream and starts pigging out on it.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oooh! Sweet mercy! ''{He eats some more.}'' This is orful! ''{He eats more.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aww, it's OK, Coach. You're the proud new eater of a healthy bowl of sour cream and The Cheat fur.

''{Coach Z drops the bowl in shock. Strong Bad pulls away The Cheat's towel to reveal that he's been shaved from the waist down.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises, sounds like "ta-da!"}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{He starts making disgusted noises and coughing up fur.}'' Oof! I think I'm going to puke my pants!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh! Please don't elaborate on that.

'''COACH Z:''' ''{talking normally}'' Naw, it's easy. I do it all the time! Here, let me show ya's!

'''STRONG BAD AND THE CHEAT:''' AUGH!

''{Strong Bad and the Cheat run away as Coach Z continues talking.}''

'''COACH Z:''' You take your pants...

''{A recipe card appears on screen reading as follows.}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background-image:none;border:2px solid black;background:#ffffff;color:#000">Recipe: 
Great Uncle Pawdabber's Pre-tend 
Ice Cream Showdown 
 
Ingredients: 
3 scoops (really) sour cream 
1/2 of shaved The Cheat 
1 bowl 
1 languagely challenged vaguely coach type person 
 
Instructions: 
Mix ingredients until golden brown</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' For best results, dip The Cheat in egg wash before shaving or else he'll get those red shaving bumpies all over him. Ugh.

''{Cut to the side of the King of Town's castle.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sotto voice}'' All right, we're mixing this next one up on them, The Cheat. I filled this old Speed Stick ''{He pulls out some underarm deodorant reading "X-treme Glacier."}'' with white chocolate and we'll totally gross out or make puke The King of Town when I start eatin' it in front of him!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{affirmative The Cheat noises}''

''{Cut to inside the castle. The King of Town is watching TV and eating the same type of Speed Stick we saw Strong Bad with. He also has some more underarm deodorants and spray cans in a bowl next to him.}''

'''TUCKSWORTH:''' You can't marry your guitar, Caleb!

'''CALEB:''' I can try!

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat enter from the right.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey Ole King Droll! Checka me out! I'm eatin'—oh. Never mind. ''{the King of Town picks up a spray can and sprays it in his mouth, then resumes eating the Speed Stick}'' Ugh, shoulda known...

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat walk out.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' No, wait, you guys! Come back! This stuff is strong enough for a man but tasty enough for a king! Don't you want to try any Forest Rush? Or Tundra Mist?

''{A recipe card spins onscreen reading as follows}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background-image:none;border:2px solid black;background:#ffffff;color:#000">Recipe: 
Crazy Aunt Eulatherm's Deodorant 
Doppelganger 
 
Ingredients: 
6 oz. white chocolate 
1/2 of shaved The Cheat (for moral support) 
1 kinda cleaned-out De-odor Cake 
 
Instructions: 
Mix ingredients. Preheat oven. Add hot sauce 
if necessary</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Yeah, how come deodorants and stuff are always named after biomes anyways?

''{Cut to Marzipan's house. Marzipan is sitting on the couch reading The Latest News. Homestar walks in carrying one of Strong Bad's Pre-Tend Ice Cream Showdown bowls.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, girlfriend, have you tried any of this free ice cream Strong Bad made?

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{setting aside her paper, clearly amused}'' Homestar, didn't anyone tell you? That's, like, cottage cheese and The Cheat hair!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' WHAT?! ''{He does a spit take, producing some fur.}'' Strong Bad told me it was ''sour cream'' and The Cheat hair! Looks like this is a job for Stupid Uncle Egg's Goodtime Diaper Pie!

''{Homestar walks offscreen to the left. The screen greys and the following text appears on it.}''

'''NARRATOR:''' Homestar Runner definitely does not have a Stupid Uncle Egg.

''{Cut to Strong Bad's computer room. A pinecone and bendy straw are in a bowl with a sign next to it reading "not A pimecone, diaper pie! i mean reg-ular pie." Strong Bad and The Cheat walk in. The Cheat is now wearing yellow post-it notes, some with black dots on them, to try to cover up his shaved area.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, it looks ''totally'' real. I swear, no one'll be able to tell! Oh, what's this? ''{Strong Bad picks up the sign.}'' "Not a pimecone." Well, he's got that right!

''{Homestar pokes his head in from the right.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, look, it's my best friends Cheat and The Strong Bad! Hey, I heard you guys been eatin' some serious regular pie in here!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, yeah, man! We've even got some left over if you want it.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well if it's anywhere near as good as your free ice cream!

''{Homestar puts the pine cone in his mouth and starts crunching it up. The Cheat and Strong Bad look at each other incredulously.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{with his mouth full}'' Well, so long, suckers!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{offscreen}'' It's like, even when we win, he wins.

''{Cut back to Strong Bad at the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' There you go girls. Recipes for the ages. But if you really want to be chefs when you grow up, we've got a super-secret family recipe for cooking the C-H-E-blank-T ''{types this as "C H E _ T"}''

''{The Cheat makes a very angry noise from offscreen and chucks a floppy disk reading "YOU JERK!" at Strong Bad's head.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ow! ''{typing}'' And of course that blank is for the letter K. The Chekt. My family's got a great recipe for cooking the Chekt. Yeah, yeah. ''{He only types one "yeah."}'' We're mostly from Bumdumbourge. It's near, uh, Totalslava. "Come down off that smokestack and eat your the Chekt!" my poopaw used to say. Ah, my dear poopaw, I miss you so.

''{The Paper comes down}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{whispering}'' I think the Cheat bought it. Let me know if you want that recipe.

== Easter Eggs ==
*At the end, click on "grow up" to hear a few seconds of the television program the King of Town was watching.
::''{Cut back to the King of Town's castle. The TV is still on.}''
::'''TUCKSWORTH:''' Caleb, that hamburger was mine!
::'''CALEB:''' It's mine now!
*At the end, click on "C H E _ T" to see the Cheat reading a book entitled "So You Want to Cook a Wrestleman?", with a picture of The Cheat putting a lid on a pot with Strong Bad in it.
*At the end, click on the left "poopaw" to hear what the narrator has to say about a poopaw.
::'''NARRATOR:''' I, uh, I don't even know what a poopaw is.
*At the end, click on "the Chekt" to see another recipe.

<blockquote class="email" style="background-image:none;border:2px solid black;background:#ffffff;color:#000">From the Kitchen of Poopaw 
Chicken-fried the CHEKT 
 
Ingredients: 
3 or 7 medium sized the Chekts 
2 salt 
40 pancakes 
 
Instructions: 
Get down off smokestack. Then cook that 
ugly thing.</blockquote>

''{"Bumdumbourge '96" appears as a watermark on the recipe card.}''

== Fun Facts ==

=== Explanations ===
*A [[Wikipedia:Biome|biome]] is a major regional group of distinctive plant and animal communities well adapted to that region's physical environment (for example, Tundra, Forest, etc.).
*[http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=couth "Couth"] means "possessing a high degree of sophistication" or "refined".
=== Trivia ===
*When Strong Bad is talking to The Cheat flinging the discs, if you manage to zoom in on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy's]] screen, you'll find out that some different stuff is typed in (not all of it is visible due to Strong Bad's head blocking the Lappy screen):
<blockquote class="lappy email">
so our recipes may seem a bit uncouth. Can something be 
just plain couth? I bet freakin' Strong Sad is plain couth. 
I wouldn't put that past him. Not that you could put 
anything past that guy. Y'know on account of he's so fat. 
And maybe standing in a really narrow alleyway of some 
 
around the grossing out of or the making puke of friends 
and well-wishers.</blockquote>

*Marzipan's Newspaper repeats the following paragraph as many times as necessary to fill up the pages.
<blockquote class="email" style="background-image:none;border:2px solid black;background:#ffffff;color:#000;width:180px">
'''The Latest News''' 
 
It’s all true. All the 
rumors are true. The 
crime is on the rise 
in our very own 
town. Trust me on 
this one. I know 
what I’m talking 
about. No, wait. I 
don’t. I make stuff 
up sometimes. 
That’s cool though, 
right? Good. I’ll 
keep doing it then. 
It’s a lot easy than 
fact checking. That 
stuff can be 
annoying.
</blockquote>

=== Remarks ===
*The way Marzipan is sitting is evidence against the theory that Marzipan's lower body is skirt-shaped.


=== Goofs ===
*When Strong Bad reads the "pimecone" card, the computer screen is almost blank...but still has "and well-wishers." written on it in the same area where Strong Bad typed it before.
*In the beginning of the email, The Cheat is apparently throwing floppy disks from someplace behind him, as the movement of his arm behind him shows. However, when The Cheat jumps up at Strong Bad's suggestion of the ice cream trick, there are no floppy disks behind The Cheat that he could have thrown (unless, of course, he had already thrown all of them).
*In Marzipan's newspaper, the word "easy" should be "easier."

=== Inside References ===
*The newspaper Marzipan is reading is the exact same one (down to the repeating text) she was reading in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]].
*The book in the Easter egg is titled "So You Want to Cook a [[Wrestleman]]", a phrase that has described Strong Bad previously.
*On the first recipe card where it says "Mix ingredients until golden brown" may be reference to the [[Homestar Quiz]] after you win.
*The towel that the Cheat is wearing appears to be either the same as, or very similar to, the one worn by Homestar in "[[Main Page 14]]."
*The use of the '96 on the card is quite possibly a reference to the year that [[Original Book|the original Homestar Runner book]] was created, during the [[Wikipedia:1996 Summer Olympics|1996 Summer Olympics]] held in Atlanta, Georgia.

=== Real-World References ===
*[http://www.colgate.com/app/Speedstick/US/HomePage.cvsp "Speed Stick"] is an actual brand of underarm deodorant.
*"Old King Droll" is possibly a play on the nursery rhyme "[[Wikipedia:Old King Cole|Old King Cole]]."
*The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to [http://www.secret.com/ "Secret" brand deodorant] ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but P.H. balanced for a woman."

===Fast Forward===
* The television show watched by the King appears again in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]]. In that toon, we discover the name of the show is ''[[Caleb Rentpayer]]''.
*In the email [[rock opera]], Strong Bad types "It's only a msyyer pd tun/ blegfr teh '''chekts'''" due to the Cheat throwing roses onto the keyboard.

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Strong Bad]], [[Ryan Sterritt]], [[Craig Zobel]])

'''MIKE:''' Uh oh. Strong Bad's here.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, it's true, you guys. Who's gonna tolerate it?

'''RYAN:''' It's gonna—It's chronicling one of your greatest pranks yet.

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's right. You guys were around for this. Huh? Were you?

'''RYAN:''' We watched it all on TVD.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, me too.

'''MIKE:''' Really the only good thing about this email is the introduction of "Caleb Rentpayer."

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{angrily}'' What? What you gonna... jock me like that?

'''RYAN:''' I disagree, Mike.

'''STRONG BAD:''' —Downplay my accomplishments. Look, I just accused those girls of eating lions. ''{Mike laughs}'' That's great! I think there's just— The abbreviation "NJ" means Nigeria. ''{Mike laughs}'' That is comedy at its finest.

'''MIKE:''' That's pretty funny.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah. Brian!

'''MIKE:''' Uhh, that's pretty good right there; the making puke of—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Exactly.

'''MIKE:''' Kinda switch up the word—

'''STRONG BAD:''' What's The Cheat doing, man?

'''CRAIG:''' What's the game of the day, Ryan?

'''STRONG BAD:''' He's tossing my stuff all over.

'''RYAN:''' Battle Chess. ''{pause}'' Pawdabber.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, this is good.

'''STRONG BAD:''' That guy is clueless.

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' He doesn't even know what a basketball is.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I was gonna start calling him "Z" cause he does not— He's not a coach of anything.

'''CRAIG:''' I should have guessed what was gonna happen with the towel around him, but—

'''MIKE:''' Did you not know?

'''CRAIG:''' No, it's talking about—

'''MIKE:''' ''I'' knew.

'''CRAIG:''' I asked Steve about it, too... when I first watch it. Why does The Cheat have a towel around him? ''{Mike chuckles}'' And then you find out!

'''MIKE:''' I had made a shaved The Cheat several weeks prior just— I think just to have. I just—

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's nice to have a shaved The Cheat lying around.

'''RYAN:''' Ohhh hooo ohh...

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ohh. And the fact that when Coach Z coughs up you see the little hairs come out. Oh, puke my pants. That's—

'''MIKE:''' That's right.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ryan Sterritt made that up. Ryan? Talk about it.

'''MIKE:''' Yet another example of us stealing—

'''STRONG BAD:''' At least—

'''MIKE:''' —from out friends.

'''STRONG BAD:''' At least you pay this guy.

'''MIKE:''' That's true.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ryan, give 'em— Tell 'em how where it came from.

'''RYAN:''' Uh...I did it once ''{Everyone laughs}'' and it kind of grossed me out. So, it became a recurring joke.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Puke my pants. Why not?

'''RYAN:''' ''{overlapping}'' Something I should not want to do.

'''STRONG BAD:''' So this was based on a prank that Matt had when he was a kid. He always wanted to play was wash out an old speed stick, fill it with white chocolate, and then gross some kids out in the locker room after gym class.

'''RYAN:''' We talked briefly about adding a randomizer to the names of the deodorants—

'''MIKE:''' Oh, right.

'''RYAN:''' But we never got around to—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Mike made a bunch of sweet, sweet deodorant names.

'''MIKE:''' It was fun coming up with—

'''STRONG BAD:''' other biomes.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Deodorant names.

'''RYAN:''' Like those band namers. You know, you pick like four prefixes and four words like "mountain" and "glaciers."

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's true. I don't have a Crazy Aunt Eulatherm, honestly.

'''MIKE:''' Really?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Ahhh. Doesn't surprise me. I don't know if I believe very much of what you say. Look! That's a rare shot of Marzipan sitting down.

'''MIKE:''' That's true.

'''RYAN:''' Can we "zoom in" on that paper?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, it says the same thing over and over again.

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' And it says the same thing from the Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah. Marzipan needs to get a new subscription. ''{Mike laughs}'' She's such a recycler that she just reads the same paper that she got so many years ago.

'''RYAN:''' Uhh—

'''STRONG BAD:''' That looks great. Mike, remember when you made your wife a post-it note dress?

'''MIKE:''' I did. She—

'''STRONG BAD:''' She didn't want to wear—

'''RYAN:''' She was very excited, wasn't she?

'''MIKE:''' It's still in my closet. ''{laughter}'' Not hers.

'''STRONG BAD:''' It wasn't very flattering. It kinda look like a—

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' It looked just like a potato sack—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah.

'''RYAN:''' Uhh—

'''MIKE:''' made out of post-it notes.

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's true.

'''RYAN:''' ''{overlapping}'' It's the thought that—

'''MIKE:''' Right. Remember the thought?

'''RYAN:''' The girls don't remember the thought.

'''MIKE:''' They don't. They just want—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Dudes. Dudes do.

'''MIKE:''' a good looking dress.

'''CRAIG:''' ''{overlapping}'' That was foiled by, um, I almost ate the chips and I got reprimanded for eating the chips that were left over—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, that's right because I had to...and Mike and Matt had to—

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' We had Mo—We had some Moe's Nacho Chips and saved them.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{theme park tour guide-styled monotone voice}'' Welcome to Moe's.

'''CRAIG:''' ''{deep voice, slow}'' Moe's.

'''STRONG BAD:''' He's always the really ''{monotone voice again}'' depressed guy. At the end. ''{normal voice}'' Or they just go "Muhhhhh" ''{pause}'' What did that one say? That disk?

'''MIKE:''' I don't know what that one said.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Somebody slow it back down. Play it again, Ryan—

'''MIKE:''' Call us up, let us know.

'''RYAN:''' ''{imitates rewind noise of a tape}'' There you go.

'''STRONG BAD:''' What did it say?

'''RYAN:''' ''{overlapping}'' Good game, boys.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Good game, boys.

'''STRONG BAD:''' OK.

'''RYAN:''' I think it was an action game?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Totalslava. You guys?

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughing to himself}'' Poopaw.

'''STRONG BAD:''' So did this mean that I am— I have Euro—Eastern-European roots?

'''MIKE:''' ''{quickly}'' Yes.

''{After The Paper comes down, there is a pause}''

'''MATT:''' Oh, it's not over.—

'''RYAN:''' We finish quick every time.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{overlapping}'' That's right, guys. Every time 'cause ''{begins to whisper; decrescendo}'' we don't remember cartoons after we're finished making them!

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail124.html|watch "secret recipes"]]
*[[HR:sbemail124.swf|view the Flash file for "secret recipes"]]
*[[Forum:2014|forum thread re: "secret recipes"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Lappy 486 Emails]][[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]

secret recipes

2005-12-26T21:23:27Z

AnarchyBalsac: /* Real-World References */ - "Possibly". It could easily be a coincidence kinsidering that strong bad likely veiws the king of town as both old and boring, and it's only a 3 word phrase.

[[Image:SBEmail 124.PNG|thumb|The horrible truth revealed!]]

'''Strong Bad Email #124'''

Strong Bad reveals some secret family recipes.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[King of Town's Castle]], [[Marzipan's House]]

'''Computer:''' [[Lappy 486]]

'''Date:''' February 14, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 4:04

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Email, na na, na na, na na, nanaNA...

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: family recipes</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
When we grow up we want to be chefs. We wanted to know 
if you had any secret family recipes that you would want 
to share with us so...we can make them! 
 
-Melissa and Hillary (from NJ)</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad reads "Dear Strong Bad" as "The usual" and "NJ" as "Nigeria"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well Mellie, Hillarious, being from Africa I'm sure you guys are used to eating, like, exotic fruits and nectars and, um, lions ''{clears screen, continues typing}'' so our recipes may seem a bit uncouth. ''{stops typing}'' Uncouth. ''{typing}'' Can something be just plain couth? I bet freakin' Strong Sad is plain couth. Anyways, Couthy, all our family recipes tend to center around the grossing out of or the making puke of friends and well-wishers.

''{The camera cuts back, and we see The Cheat laying on the computer desk flinging floppy disks all over.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat! Let's go try out Great Uncle Pawdabber's Pre-tend Ice Cream Showdown! ''{His legs kick to each syllable of Pre-tend Ice Cream Showdown.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises, possibly an enthusiastic "Okay!"}''

''{The Cheat stands up. The screen greys and the following text appears.}''

'''NARRATOR:''' Strong Bad may or may not have an actual Great Uncle Pawdabber.

''{Cut to the field. Coach Z is standing around holding a basketball.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Man, what is this thing? ''{bounces the basketball once}'' A bounce thing?

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat enter from the right. Strong Bad is holding what appears to be a bowl of ice cream with yellowish sprinkles, and The Cheat is wearing a towel around his waist.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh man, The Cheat! Wow! Look at this! It's our best friend, Coach Z. Say there, Coach, would you like to try some of our free icèd-c-cream? It's got toasted coconut!

'''COACH Z:''' How could I refuse? ''{throws the basketball over his shoulder}'' I can't afford the money-cost variety! ''{The basketball can be seen falling behind the trees in the background.}''

''{Coach Z takes the ice cream and starts pigging out on it.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oooh! Sweet mercy! ''{He eats some more.}'' This is orful! ''{He eats more.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aww, it's OK, Coach. You're the proud new eater of a healthy bowl of sour cream and The Cheat fur.

''{Coach Z drops the bowl in shock. Strong Bad pulls away The Cheat's towel to reveal that he's been shaved from the waist down.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises, sounds like "ta-da!"}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{He starts making disgusted noises and coughing up fur.}'' Oof! I think I'm going to puke my pants!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh! Please don't elaborate on that.

'''COACH Z:''' ''{talking normally}'' Naw, it's easy. I do it all the time! Here, let me show ya's!

'''STRONG BAD AND THE CHEAT:''' AUGH!

''{Strong Bad and the Cheat run away as Coach Z continues talking.}''

'''COACH Z:''' You take your pants...

''{A recipe card appears on screen reading as follows.}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background-image:none;border:2px solid black;background:#ffffff;color:#000">Recipe: 
Great Uncle Pawdabber's Pre-tend 
Ice Cream Showdown 
 
Ingredients: 
3 scoops (really) sour cream 
1/2 of shaved The Cheat 
1 bowl 
1 languagely challenged vaguely coach type person 
 
Instructions: 
Mix ingredients until golden brown</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' For best results, dip The Cheat in egg wash before shaving or else he'll get those red shaving bumpies all over him. Ugh.

''{Cut to the side of the King of Town's castle.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sotto voice}'' All right, we're mixing this next one up on them, The Cheat. I filled this old Speed Stick ''{He pulls out some underarm deodorant reading "X-treme Glacier."}'' with white chocolate and we'll totally gross out or make puke The King of Town when I start eatin' it in front of him!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{affirmative The Cheat noises}''

''{Cut to inside the castle. The King of Town is watching TV and eating the same type of Speed Stick we saw Strong Bad with. He also has some more underarm deodorants and spray cans in a bowl next to him.}''

'''TUCKSWORTH:''' You can't marry your guitar, Caleb!

'''CALEB:''' I can try!

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat enter from the right.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey Ole King Droll! Checka me out! I'm eatin'—oh. Never mind. ''{the King of Town picks up a spray can and sprays it in his mouth, then resumes eating the Speed Stick}'' Ugh, shoulda known...

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat walk out.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' No, wait, you guys! Come back! This stuff is strong enough for a man but tasty enough for a king! Don't you want to try any Forest Rush? Or Tundra Mist?

''{A recipe card spins onscreen reading as follows}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background-image:none;border:2px solid black;background:#ffffff;color:#000">Recipe: 
Crazy Aunt Eulatherm's Deodorant 
Doppelganger 
 
Ingredients: 
6 oz. white chocolate 
1/2 of shaved The Cheat (for moral support) 
1 kinda cleaned-out De-odor Cake 
 
Instructions: 
Mix ingredients. Preheat oven. Add hot sauce 
if necessary</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Yeah, how come deodorants and stuff are always named after biomes anyways?

''{Cut to Marzipan's house. Marzipan is sitting on the couch reading The Latest News. Homestar walks in carrying one of Strong Bad's Pre-Tend Ice Cream Showdown bowls.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, girlfriend, have you tried any of this free ice cream Strong Bad made?

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{setting aside her paper, clearly amused}'' Homestar, didn't anyone tell you? That's, like, cottage cheese and The Cheat hair!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' WHAT?! ''{He does a spit take, producing some fur.}'' Strong Bad told me it was ''sour cream'' and The Cheat hair! Looks like this is a job for Stupid Uncle Egg's Goodtime Diaper Pie!

''{Homestar walks offscreen to the left. The screen greys and the following text appears on it.}''

'''NARRATOR:''' Homestar Runner definitely does not have a Stupid Uncle Egg.

''{Cut to Strong Bad's computer room. A pinecone and bendy straw are in a bowl with a sign next to it reading "not A pimecone, diaper pie! i mean reg-ular pie." Strong Bad and The Cheat walk in. The Cheat is now wearing yellow post-it notes, some with black dots on them, to try to cover up his shaved area.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, it looks ''totally'' real. I swear, no one'll be able to tell! Oh, what's this? ''{Strong Bad picks up the sign.}'' "Not a pimecone." Well, he's got that right!

''{Homestar pokes his head in from the right.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, look, it's my best friends Cheat and The Strong Bad! Hey, I heard you guys been eatin' some serious regular pie in here!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, yeah, man! We've even got some left over if you want it.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well if it's anywhere near as good as your free ice cream!

''{Homestar puts the pine cone in his mouth and starts crunching it up. The Cheat and Strong Bad look at each other incredulously.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{with his mouth full}'' Well, so long, suckers!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{offscreen}'' It's like, even when we win, he wins.

''{Cut back to Strong Bad at the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' There you go girls. Recipes for the ages. But if you really want to be chefs when you grow up, we've got a super-secret family recipe for cooking the C-H-E-blank-T ''{types this as "C H E _ T"}''

''{The Cheat makes a very angry noise from offscreen and chucks a floppy disk reading "YOU JERK!" at Strong Bad's head.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ow! ''{typing}'' And of course that blank is for the letter K. The Chekt. My family's got a great recipe for cooking the Chekt. Yeah, yeah. ''{He only types one "yeah."}'' We're mostly from Bumdumbourge. It's near, uh, Totalslava. "Come down off that smokestack and eat your the Chekt!" my poopaw used to say. Ah, my dear poopaw, I miss you so.

''{The Paper comes down}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{whispering}'' I think the Cheat bought it. Let me know if you want that recipe.

== Easter Eggs ==
*At the end, click on "grow up" to hear a few seconds of the television program the King of Town was watching.
::''{Cut back to the King of Town's castle. The TV is still on.}''
::'''TUCKSWORTH:''' Caleb, that hamburger was mine!
::'''CALEB:''' It's mine now!
*At the end, click on "C H E _ T" to see the Cheat reading a book entitled "So You Want to Cook a Wrestleman?", with a picture of The Cheat putting a lid on a pot with Strong Bad in it.
*At the end, click on the left "poopaw" to hear what the narrator has to say about a poopaw.
::'''NARRATOR:''' I, uh, I don't even know what a poopaw is.
*At the end, click on "the Chekt" to see another recipe.

<blockquote class="email" style="background-image:none;border:2px solid black;background:#ffffff;color:#000">From the Kitchen of Poopaw 
Chicken-fried the CHEKT 
 
Ingredients: 
3 or 7 medium sized the Chekts 
2 salt 
40 pancakes 
 
Instructions: 
Get down off smokestack. Then cook that 
ugly thing.</blockquote>

''{"Bumdumbourge '96" appears as a watermark on the recipe card.}''

== Fun Facts ==

=== Explanations ===
*A [[Wikipedia:Biome|biome]] is a major regional group of distinctive plant and animal communities well adapted to that region's physical environment (for example, Tundra, Forest, etc.).
*[http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=couth "Couth"] means "possessing a high degree of sophistication" or "refined".
=== Trivia ===
*When Strong Bad is talking to The Cheat flinging the discs, if you manage to zoom in on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy's]] screen, you'll find out that some different stuff is typed in (not all of it is visible due to Strong Bad's head blocking the Lappy screen):
<blockquote class="lappy email">
so our recipes may seem a bit uncouth. Can something be 
just plain couth? I bet freakin' Strong Sad is plain couth. 
I wouldn't put that past him. Not that you could put 
anything past that guy. Y'know on account of he's so fat. 
And maybe standing in a really narrow alleyway of some 
 
around the grossing out of or the making puke of friends 
and well-wishers.</blockquote>

*Marzipan's Newspaper repeats the following paragraph as many times as necessary to fill up the pages.
<blockquote class="email" style="background-image:none;border:2px solid black;background:#ffffff;color:#000;width:180px">
'''The Latest News''' 
 
It’s all true. All the 
rumors are true. The 
crime is on the rise 
in our very own 
town. Trust me on 
this one. I know 
what I’m talking 
about. No, wait. I 
don’t. I make stuff 
up sometimes. 
That’s cool though, 
right? Good. I’ll 
keep doing it then. 
It’s a lot easy than 
fact checking. That 
stuff can be 
annoying.
</blockquote>

=== Remarks ===
*The way Marzipan is sitting is evidence against the theory that Marzipan's lower body is skirt-shaped.


=== Goofs ===
*When Strong Bad reads the "pimecone" card, the computer screen is almost blank...but still has "and well-wishers." written on it in the same area where Strong Bad typed it before.
*In the beginning of the email, The Cheat is apparently throwing floppy disks from someplace behind him, as the movement of his arm behind him shows. However, when The Cheat jumps up at Strong Bad's suggestion of the ice cream trick, there are no floppy disks behind The Cheat that he could have thrown (unless, of course, he had already thrown all of them).
*In Marzipan's newspaper, the word "easy" should be "easier."

=== Inside References ===
*The newspaper Marzipan is reading is the exact same one (down to the repeating text) she was reading in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]].
*The book in the Easter egg is titled "So You Want to Cook a [[Wrestleman]]", a phrase that has described Strong Bad previously.
*On the first recipe card where it says "Mix ingredients until golden brown" may be reference to the [[Homestar Quiz]] after you win.
*The towel that the Cheat is wearing appears to be either the same as, or very similar to, the one worn by Homestar in "[[Main Page 14]]."
*The use of the '96 on the card is quite possibly a reference to the year that [[Original Book|the original Homestar Runner book]] was created, during the [[Wikipedia:1996 Summer Olympics|1996 Summer Olympics]] held in Atlanta, Georgia.

=== Real-World References ===
*[http://www.colgate.com/app/Speedstick/US/HomePage.cvsp "Speed Stick"] is an actual brand of underarm deodorant.
*"Old King Droll" is possibly a play on the nursery rhyme "[[Wikipedia:Old King Cole|Old King Cole]]."
*The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to [http://www.secret.com/ "Secret" brand deodorant] ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman."

===Fast Forward===
* The television show watched by the King appears again in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]]. In that toon, we discover the name of the show is ''[[Caleb Rentpayer]]''.
*In the email [[rock opera]], Strong Bad types "It's only a msyyer pd tun/ blegfr teh '''chekts'''" due to the Cheat throwing roses onto the keyboard.

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Strong Bad]], [[Ryan Sterritt]], [[Craig Zobel]])

'''MIKE:''' Uh oh. Strong Bad's here.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, it's true, you guys. Who's gonna tolerate it?

'''RYAN:''' It's gonna—It's chronicling one of your greatest pranks yet.

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's right. You guys were around for this. Huh? Were you?

'''RYAN:''' We watched it all on TVD.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, me too.

'''MIKE:''' Really the only good thing about this email is the introduction of "Caleb Rentpayer."

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{angrily}'' What? What you gonna... jock me like that?

'''RYAN:''' I disagree, Mike.

'''STRONG BAD:''' —Downplay my accomplishments. Look, I just accused those girls of eating lions. ''{Mike laughs}'' That's great! I think there's just— The abbreviation "NJ" means Nigeria. ''{Mike laughs}'' That is comedy at its finest.

'''MIKE:''' That's pretty funny.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah. Brian!

'''MIKE:''' Uhh, that's pretty good right there; the making puke of—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Exactly.

'''MIKE:''' Kinda switch up the word—

'''STRONG BAD:''' What's The Cheat doing, man?

'''CRAIG:''' What's the game of the day, Ryan?

'''STRONG BAD:''' He's tossing my stuff all over.

'''RYAN:''' Battle Chess. ''{pause}'' Pawdabber.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, this is good.

'''STRONG BAD:''' That guy is clueless.

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' He doesn't even know what a basketball is.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I was gonna start calling him "Z" cause he does not— He's not a coach of anything.

'''CRAIG:''' I should have guessed what was gonna happen with the towel around him, but—

'''MIKE:''' Did you not know?

'''CRAIG:''' No, it's talking about—

'''MIKE:''' ''I'' knew.

'''CRAIG:''' I asked Steve about it, too... when I first watch it. Why does The Cheat have a towel around him? ''{Mike chuckles}'' And then you find out!

'''MIKE:''' I had made a shaved The Cheat several weeks prior just— I think just to have. I just—

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's nice to have a shaved The Cheat lying around.

'''RYAN:''' Ohhh hooo ohh...

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ohh. And the fact that when Coach Z coughs up you see the little hairs come out. Oh, puke my pants. That's—

'''MIKE:''' That's right.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ryan Sterritt made that up. Ryan? Talk about it.

'''MIKE:''' Yet another example of us stealing—

'''STRONG BAD:''' At least—

'''MIKE:''' —from out friends.

'''STRONG BAD:''' At least you pay this guy.

'''MIKE:''' That's true.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ryan, give 'em— Tell 'em how where it came from.

'''RYAN:''' Uh...I did it once ''{Everyone laughs}'' and it kind of grossed me out. So, it became a recurring joke.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Puke my pants. Why not?

'''RYAN:''' ''{overlapping}'' Something I should not want to do.

'''STRONG BAD:''' So this was based on a prank that Matt had when he was a kid. He always wanted to play was wash out an old speed stick, fill it with white chocolate, and then gross some kids out in the locker room after gym class.

'''RYAN:''' We talked briefly about adding a randomizer to the names of the deodorants—

'''MIKE:''' Oh, right.

'''RYAN:''' But we never got around to—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Mike made a bunch of sweet, sweet deodorant names.

'''MIKE:''' It was fun coming up with—

'''STRONG BAD:''' other biomes.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Deodorant names.

'''RYAN:''' Like those band namers. You know, you pick like four prefixes and four words like "mountain" and "glaciers."

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's true. I don't have a Crazy Aunt Eulatherm, honestly.

'''MIKE:''' Really?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Ahhh. Doesn't surprise me. I don't know if I believe very much of what you say. Look! That's a rare shot of Marzipan sitting down.

'''MIKE:''' That's true.

'''RYAN:''' Can we "zoom in" on that paper?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, it says the same thing over and over again.

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' And it says the same thing from the Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah. Marzipan needs to get a new subscription. ''{Mike laughs}'' She's such a recycler that she just reads the same paper that she got so many years ago.

'''RYAN:''' Uhh—

'''STRONG BAD:''' That looks great. Mike, remember when you made your wife a post-it note dress?

'''MIKE:''' I did. She—

'''STRONG BAD:''' She didn't want to wear—

'''RYAN:''' She was very excited, wasn't she?

'''MIKE:''' It's still in my closet. ''{laughter}'' Not hers.

'''STRONG BAD:''' It wasn't very flattering. It kinda look like a—

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' It looked just like a potato sack—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah.

'''RYAN:''' Uhh—

'''MIKE:''' made out of post-it notes.

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's true.

'''RYAN:''' ''{overlapping}'' It's the thought that—

'''MIKE:''' Right. Remember the thought?

'''RYAN:''' The girls don't remember the thought.

'''MIKE:''' They don't. They just want—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Dudes. Dudes do.

'''MIKE:''' a good looking dress.

'''CRAIG:''' ''{overlapping}'' That was foiled by, um, I almost ate the chips and I got reprimanded for eating the chips that were left over—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, that's right because I had to...and Mike and Matt had to—

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' We had Mo—We had some Moe's Nacho Chips and saved them.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{theme park tour guide-styled monotone voice}'' Welcome to Moe's.

'''CRAIG:''' ''{deep voice, slow}'' Moe's.

'''STRONG BAD:''' He's always the really ''{monotone voice again}'' depressed guy. At the end. ''{normal voice}'' Or they just go "Muhhhhh" ''{pause}'' What did that one say? That disk?

'''MIKE:''' I don't know what that one said.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Somebody slow it back down. Play it again, Ryan—

'''MIKE:''' Call us up, let us know.

'''RYAN:''' ''{imitates rewind noise of a tape}'' There you go.

'''STRONG BAD:''' What did it say?

'''RYAN:''' ''{overlapping}'' Good game, boys.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Good game, boys.

'''STRONG BAD:''' OK.

'''RYAN:''' I think it was an action game?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Totalslava. You guys?

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughing to himself}'' Poopaw.

'''STRONG BAD:''' So did this mean that I am— I have Euro—Eastern-European roots?

'''MIKE:''' ''{quickly}'' Yes.

''{After The Paper comes down, there is a pause}''

'''MATT:''' Oh, it's not over.—

'''RYAN:''' We finish quick every time.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{overlapping}'' That's right, guys. Every time 'cause ''{begins to whisper; decrescendo}'' we don't remember cartoons after we're finished making them!

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail124.html|watch "secret recipes"]]
*[[HR:sbemail124.swf|view the Flash file for "secret recipes"]]
*[[Forum:2014|forum thread re: "secret recipes"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Lappy 486 Emails]][[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]

User talk:Elvis

2005-12-26T21:01:43Z

AnarchyBalsac:

== Hi Guys! ==

Hi guys, Elvis here. Feel free to use this space to comment on changes I have made or whatever. :[[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 23:20, 5 December 2005 (UTC) _@:) Elvis has left the building_

== Hey there elvis ==

How have you been, me i've been doing great, your too kind, anyway lets get to know each other:

1.whats your real name?

2.Do you like Elvis Presley?

3.how long have you been on homestar runner wiki?

4.how did you find homestar?

see you soon.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:01, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

----

I'm doing great as well. On to the Questions!

1. Ethan Kirl

2. Yes, and some of my friends think I look like him.

3. I can't remember, but I've really only been changing things for about a month.

4. My friend told me about Homestar a long time before I visited the site, but then about two years ago I finally watched the toon and was instantly hooked.

Thanks for being the first to visit my page!
[[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 18:30, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

== Oye ==

I noticed your sig on my page and I thought that it would be cool to return the favor, so here you go.--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 22:04, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Thnx Mn -Oh, I mean, Thanks man.

==fat==
:Ah, thanks for translating. Here's your 7.50. Just go to my house and... give me a million dollars... and i'll give you the 7.50! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 18:43, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

== anyone ==

Hey there elvis, how have you been, i've been doing great, anyway onto business:

1.do you happen to know, Sir strong bad, Heimstern Läufer, bubsty, abdiviklas, homsarroks and it's dot com?

2.what have been up to?

3.Do you know about wikipedia?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 08:19, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

== Don;t worry about it ==

Hey there Elvis, how have you been, i was just reading my talk page and one of your messages says "sorry i spellt your name wrong the first", hey don'y worry about it, some people have a lot of trouble just pronoucing my name.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 10:20, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

== Merry christmas ==

Hey there elvis, how have you been, i've been doing great. I just wanted to write merry christmas and a happy and safe holiday, your a great guy, thanks for writing to me. If you want a coupke more friends on hrwiki, here are some good people:

[[user:Sir Strong Bad|Sir Strong Bad]] '''STOP''',

[[user:It's dot com|It's dot com]],

[[user:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]],

[[user:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]],

[[user:Bubsty|Bubsty]],

[[user:Homsarroks|Homsarroks]].

merry christmas.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:11, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

== Since you asked ==

I haven't been logged on the wiki in forever, but if you must know I was previously "theDOOMguy" until I joined the age of empires "Anarchy" clan. Being a fan of GWAR at the time, and "BalSac: The Jaws of Death" being my favorite character from that band, I named myself "Anarchy_Balsac". But the wiki doesn't allow hyphens.

--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

User talk:Elvis

2005-12-26T21:01:06Z

AnarchyBalsac:

User talk:AnarchyBalsac

2005-06-18T02:11:19Z

AnarchyBalsac: /* STUFF votes */

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2005-06-13T05:16:08Z

AnarchyBalsac: /* 102 Exclamations */

secret recipes

2005-06-06T04:30:39Z

AnarchyBalsac: Why was this removed? It's true, google "Chekt".

[[Image:thecheat_throwdisks.PNG|thumb|The Cheat flips some discs.]]

'''Strong Bad Email #124'''

Strong Bad reveals some secret family recipes.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[The Cheat]], [[Coach Z]], [[The King of Town]], [[Marzipan]], [[Homestar Runner]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[King of Town's Castle]], [[Marzipan's House]]

'''Date:''' February 14, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 4:04

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Email, na na, na na, na na, nanaNA...

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: family recipes</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
When we grow up we want to be chefs. We wanted to know 
if you had any secret family recipes that you would want 
to share with us so...we can make them! 
 
-Melissa and Hillary (from NJ)</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad reads "Dear Strong Bad" as "The usual" and "NJ" as "Nigeria"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well Mellie, Hillarious, being from Africa I'm sure you guys are used to eating, like, exotic fruits and nectars and, um, lions ''{clears screen, continues typing}'' so our recipes may seem a bit uncouth. ''{stops typing}'' Uncouth. ''{typing}'' Can something be just plain couth? I bet freakin' Strong Sad is plain couth. Anyways, Couthy, all our family recipes tend to center around the grossing out of or the making puke of friends and well-wishers.

''{The camera cuts back, and we see The Cheat laying on the computer desk flinging floppy disks all over}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat! Let's go try out Great Uncle Pawdabber's Pre-tend Ice Cream Showdown! ''{His legs kick to each syllable of Pre-tend Ice Cream Showdown}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises, possibly an enthusiastic "Okay!"}''

''{The Cheat stands up. The screen greys and the following text appears}''

'''NARRATOR:''' Strong Bad may or may not have an actual Great Uncle Pawdabber.

''{Cut to the field. Coach Z is standing around holding a basketball}''

'''COACH Z:''' Man, what is this thing? ''{bounces the basketball once}'' A bounce thing?

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat enter from the right. Strong Bad is holding what appears to be a bowl of ice cream with yellowish sprinkles, and The Cheat is wearing a towel around his waist}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh man, The Cheat! Wow! Look at this! It's our best friend, Coach Z. Say there, Coach, would you like to try some of our free icèd-c-cream? It's got toasted coconut!

'''COACH Z:''' How could I refuse? ''{throws the basketball over his shoulder}'' I can't afford the money-cost variety! ''{the basketball can be seen falling behind the trees in the background.}''

''{Coach Z takes the ice cream and starts pigging out on it}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oooh! Sweet mercy! ''{eats some more}'' This is orful! ''{eats more}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aww, it's OK, Coach. You're the proud new eater of a healthy bowl of sour cream and The Cheat fur.

''{Coach Z drops the bowl in shock. Strong Bad pulls away The Cheat's towel to reveal that he's been shaved from the waist down}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises, sounds like "ta-da!"}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{starts making disgusted noises and coughing up fur}'' Oof! I think I'm going to puke my pants!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh! Please don't elaborate on THAT.

'''COACH Z:''' ''{talking normally}'' Naw, it's easy. I do it all the time! Here, let me show ya's!

'''STRONG BAD AND THE CHEAT:''' AUGH!

''{Strong Bad and the Cheat run away as Coach Z continues talking}''

'''COACH Z:''' You take your pants...

''{A recipe card appears on screen reading as follows}''

<pre>
Recipe:
Great Uncle Pawdabber's Pre-tend
Ice Cream Showdown

Ingredients:
3 scoops (really) sour cream
1/2 of shaved The Cheat
1 bowl
1 languagely challenged vaguely coach type person

Instructions:
Mix ingredients until golden brown
</pre>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' For best results, dip The Cheat in egg wash before shaving or else he'll get those red shaving bumpies all over him. Ugh.

''{Cut to the side of the King of Town's castle}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sotto voce}'' Alright, we're mixing this next one up on them, The Cheat. I filled this old Speed Stick ''{pulls out some underarm deodorant reading X-treme Glacier}'' with white chocolate and we'll totally gross out or make puke The King of Town when I start eatin' it in front of him!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{affirmative The Cheat noises}''

''{Cut to inside the castle. The King of Town is watching TV and eating the same type of Speed Stick we saw Strong Bad with. He also has some more underarm deodorants and spray cans in a bowl next to him.}''

'''TUCKSWORTH:''' You can't marry your guitar, Caleb!

'''CALEB:''' I can try!

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat enter from the right}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey Ole King Droll! Checka me out! I'm eatin'- oh. Never mind. Ugh, shoulda known...

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat walk out}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' No wait, you guys! Come back! This stuff is strong enough for a man but TASTY enough for a king! Don't you want to try any Forest Rush? Or Tundra Mist?

''{A recipe card spins onscreen reading as follows}''

<pre>
Recipe:
Crazy Aunt Eulatherm's Deodorant
Doppelganger

Ingredients:
6 oz. white chocolate
1/2 of shaved The Cheat (for moral support)
1 kinda cleaned-out De-odor Cake

Instructions:
Mix ingredients. Preheat oven. Add hot sauce
if necessary
</pre>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Yeah, how come deodorants and stuff are always named after biomes anyways?

''{Cut to Marzipan's house. Marzipan is sitting on the couch reading The Latest News. Homestar walks in carrying one of Strong Bad's Pre-Tend Ice Cream Showdown bowls.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey girlfriend, have you tried any of this free ice cream Strong Bad made?

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{setting aside her paper, clearly amused}'' Homestar, didn't anyone tell you? That's, like, cottage cheese and The Cheat hair!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' WHAT?! ''{does a spit take, producing some fur}'' Strong Bad told me it was sour CREAM and The Cheat hair! Looks like THIS is a job for Stupid Uncle Egg's Goodtime Diaper Pie!

''{Homestar walks offscreen to the left. The screen greys and the following text appears on it}''

'''NARRATOR:''' Homestar Runner definitely does not have a Stupid Uncle Egg.

''{Cut to Strong Bad's computer room. A pinecone and bendy straw are in a bowl with a sign next to it reading "not A pimecone, diaper pie! i mean reg-ular pie." Strong Bad and The Cheat walk in. The Cheat is now wearing yellow post-it notes, some with black dots on them, to try and cover up his shaved area}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, it looks TOTALLY real. I swear, no one'll be able to tell! Oh, what's this? ''{Strong Bad picks up the sign}'' "Not a pimecone." Well, he's got that right!

''{Homestar pokes his head in from the right}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh look, it's my best friends Cheat and The Strong Bad! Hey, I heard you guys been eatin' some serious regular pie in here!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, yeah man! We've even got some left over if you want it.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well if it's anywhere near as good as your free ice cream!

''{Homestar puts the pine cone in his mouth and starts crunching it up. The Cheat and Strong Bad look at each other incredulously}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{with his mouth full}'' Well, so long, suckers!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{offscreen}'' It's like, even when we win, he wins.

''{Cut back to Strong Bad at the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' There you go girls. Recipes for the ages. But if you really want to be chefs when you grow up, we've got a super-secret family recipe for cooking the C-H-E-blank-T ''{types this as "C H E _ T"}''

''{The Cheat makes a very angry noise from offscreen and chucks a floppy disk reading "YOU JERK!" at Strong Bad's head}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ow! ''{typing}'' And of course that blank is for the letter K. The Chekt. My family's got a great recipe for cooking the Chekt. Yeah, yeah. ''{only types one "yeah"}'' We're mostly from Bumdumbourge. It's near, uh, Totalslava. "Come down off that smokestack and eat your the Chekt!" my poopaw used to say. Ah, my dear poopaw, I miss you so.

''{The Paper comes down}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{whispering}'' I think the Cheat bought it. Let me know if you want that recipe.

== Easter Eggs ==
*At the end, click on "grow up" to hear a few seconds of the television program the King of Town was watching.
::''{cut back to the King of Town's castle. The TV is still on}''
::'''TUCKSWORTH:''' Caleb, that hamburger was mine!
::'''CALEB:''' It's mine now!
*At the end, click on "C H E _ T" to see the Cheat reading a book entitled "So You Want to Cook a Wrestleman?", with a picture of The Cheat putting a lid on a pot with Strong Bad in it.
*At the end, click on the left "poopaw" to hear what the announcer has to say about a poopaw.
::'''NARRATOR:''' I, uh, I don't even know what a poopaw is.
*At the end, click on "the Chekt" to see another recipe.
<pre>
From the Kitchen of Poopaw
Chicken-fried the CHEKT

Ingredients:
3 or 7 medium sized the Chekts
2 salt
40 pancakes

Instructions:
Get down off smokestack. Then cook that
ugly thing.
</pre>

''{"Bumdumbourge '96" appears as a watermark on the recipe card.}''

== Fun Facts ==

=== Explanations ===
*A [[Wikipedia:Biome|biome]] is a major regional group of distinctive plant and animal communities well adapted to that region's physical environment (e.g. Tundra, Forest, etc.).

=== Remarks ===
*Strong Bad remarks about the possibility of something being just plain 'couth'. [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=couth Couth] means "possessing a high degree of sophistication" or "refined". So yes, Strong Sad is couth.
*The way Marzipan is sitting is evidence against the theory that Marzipan's lower body is skirt-shaped.
*When Strong Bad is talking to The Cheat flinging the discs, if you manage to zoom in on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy's]] screen, you'll find out that some different stuff is typed in (not all of it is visible due to Strong Bad's head blocking the Lappy screen):
<pre>so our recipes may seem a bit uncouth. Can something be
just plain couth? I bet freakin' Strong Sad is plain couth.
I wouldn't put that past him. Not that you could put
anything past that guy. Y'know on account of he's so fat.
And maybe standing in a really narrow alleyway of some

around the grossing out of or the making puke of friends
and well-wishers.</pre>

=== Goofs ===
*When Strong Bad reads the "pimecone" card, the computer screen is almost blank... but still has "and well-wishers." written on it in the same area where Strong Bad typed it before.
*In the beginning of the email, The Cheat is apparently throwing floppy disks from someplace behind him, as the movement of his arm behind him shows. However, when The Cheat jumps up at Strong Bad's suggestion of the ice cream trick, there are no floppy disks behind The Cheat that he could have thrown(unless, of course he had already thrown all of them).

=== Inside References ===
*The newspaper Marzipan is reading is the exact same one (down to the repeating text) she was reading in [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]].
*The effect used before Strong Bad and Homestar Runner show off their recipes was previously used in [[radio]].
*The book in the Easter egg is titled "So You Want to Cook a [[Wrestleman]]", a phrase that has described Strong Bad previously.
*On the first recipe card where it says "Mix ingredients until golden brown" may be reference to the [[Homestar Quiz]] after you win.
*The towel that the Cheat is wearing appears to be either the same as, or very similar to, the one worn by Homestar in "[[Main Page 14]]."

=== Real-World References ===
*"Speed Stick" is an actual brand of underarm deodorant.
*The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman."
**It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".
*Bumdumbourge and Totalslava are loose references to the many European localities whose names end in -burg or -bourg or -berg (e.g. [[Wikipedia:Luxembourg|Luxembourg]],[[Wikipedia:Hamburg|Hamburg]],[[Wikipedia:Wittenberg|Wittenberg]]) and to the city of [[Wikipedia:Bratislava|Bratislava]].
*"Old King Droll" is a reference to the nursery rhyme "[[Wikipedia:Old King Cole|Old King Cole]]."
*The floppy disk reads "[[Wikipedia:Battle Chess|Battle Chess]]", an early-90s-era chess game for the PC that featured animated chess pieces that fought with each other when trying to occupy the same square.
*Chekt is a form of spelling that involves spelling words the way they sound, "I spell the same way it sounds in checked" becomes, "I spel th saym wae it soundz in chekt".
*The dimming of lights and the low-voiced announcer are reminiscent of the announcer from the old gameshow "Password." Before each round, the lights of the auditorium would dim and a man with a low voice would say "The password is... <password>," while <password> appeared at the bottom of the screen.

===Fast Forward===
* The television show watched by the King appears again in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]]. In that toon, we discover the name of the show is ''[[Caleb Rentpayer]]''
*In the email [[rock opera]], Strong bad types "It's only a msyyer pd tun/ blegfr teh '''chekts'''". This is perhaps a reference to "The Chekt" in this email.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail124.html|watch "secret recipes"]] 
*[[HR:sbemail124.swf|view the Flash file for "secret recipes"]]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=2014 forum thread re: "secret recipes"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
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HRWiki:Old STUFF

2005-06-03T06:10:47Z

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts lthat have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

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[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
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You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
*'''Decline.''' If I had a nickel for every declined fun fact, I would throw them at people at the Food Court from the railing like up above. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why would someone think that this "fact" could be "fun" at all? Who really cares what Bubs gives as change? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Congratulations you know how to count change, you want a cookie? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*wow 16 cents i think im going to have a heart attack.'''Decline'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Marzipan and those are gonna summon her dead plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probly just end up DECLINING...''' Need I say more? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 21:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. The less trival the better. '''''Baleete and Burninate!''''' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:19 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Sorry, your "Fun Fact" has just been killed by a DECLINE!''' This fact isn't fun and it is not worth noting because who cares about how much change Bubs gives as change. For Example: Oh, I'm just going to look at these three funny copper coins because I'm too curious to do anything else! Oh, wait, those are some red rocks.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")
*'''Accept''' I like it but I know some people here probably won't. Bonus points if you know where the title of this fact came from! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I hear they're looking for a few good users over to the Kim Possible Wiki. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny, and it's true. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If not as a fun fact, then at least as a "Remark". -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**Er, a Remark ''is'' a Fun Fact... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Vera Weak Decline.''' Interesting, but ... nah. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted!''' Congrats, you got yourself an interesting fun fact! Funny and true! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept as a remark.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak accept''' its interesting...but is it really noteworthy? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Prooty good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Acceptable in my sight.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Everyone else was doing it. I just wanted to be popular. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Why not? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:31 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Accept''' This is a grood one. It's kinda weird that Strong Bad, Mr. Grammar himself, made this mistake. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 15:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Its not a mistake, its just kind of funny. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept you Helvetica.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:23, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".
*'''Accept.''' Toy-otathon. Bubs-otathon. Can't think of any other "-otathons". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This is a clear "Real-World" reference. The suffix "otathon" is totally complete here. It's not too obvious for a fun fact, is it? It wasn't immediately clear to me. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**'''Second.''' Huh? Why was this STUFF'd? It's clearly a reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' I STUFF'd it because it was added, then removed, then added... I put it here so it could be definitively added. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondathon''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I remember those commercials... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:17, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Now, why was this STUFF'd? While it may be obvious, like tomstiff said, no other -otathons.
'''Accept-otathon-erson.''' (damn, my first -erson joke.)--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:21, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's the only other use of the "otathon" suffix of which I've heard. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' What else would it be? Of course it is. ^_^[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:42, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yep -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**D'oh, how could I forget? But I remembered. '''SECOND TO THE POWER OF THE SECOND''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' And truly, this never should have been stuffed. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' Just one small problem: that should be "A sales event" not "AN sales event." I'm a grammar Nazi, so... yeah. Good catch on the reference though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:90, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

*'''Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out.''' I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It tastes like a #1 DECLINE!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*It's obvious, but '''DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. [[User: GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept''' Why the heck not? by the way, are you feelin' alrite cheetachu72? you seem a little out of it.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*No *sigh* I'm okay. Just have mood swings now and then. WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUT OF IT?!? RRRRRRRRRRRRR! {gets hit by tranquilizer darts} uuuuuuuuuuu, {smack head against keyboard} [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I really don't see what's wrong with this fun fact. It's true the time capsule looks like the Isle of Pom. Plus, fans wouldn't be able to tell unless they go to the museum, which I myself didn't bother looking at until I was a hardcore fan. Yes, a capsule is a common shape, but I haven't seen it on the website too much, which makes it stand out a little. So '''Accept'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!!''' Who cares! And Stinkoman looks like Strong Bad! -Kinsey
*'''DECLINE!DECLINE!!DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If there are indeed more than just a few things with this capsule shape, then a page needs to be created for them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''TOTAL DECLINE'''. Listen, if some new guy watched both Time capsule and the Isle of Pom, they would suddenly make that reference! DELETE IT! [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] Oh, and one more thing. The fact is already in the Fun Facts section of Time Capsule!!!!!![[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005
**'''Seconded''' for obvious reasons. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:13 AM EDT June 3 2005

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the well-known Japanese series
Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It was revamped for '90s North America, and had many
episodes cut out, including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:59, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mail's authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*We are the Knights who say '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''A nice and non-hurtful decline''' I just say let this one rest, and cease and desist arguing over such silly things. Silly silly silly I say -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, but Decline.''' Once again, this is stretching it big time. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:19 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''DECLINING...''' Until I e-mail the Brothers Chaps if they watch Monty Python. Which probably they will. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Burninating crappy Fun Facts, AND THEIR STRETCHABILITY! STRETCHABILITY!''' I'll just call over my friends, non-Stan and Lorreta, since obviously, there are no other Stans and Lorretas in the world, to see what they think of this. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I have actually seen the movie unlike at least one person on this page. It seems to be more or less correct. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' There are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-53,GGLD:en&q=%22Stan+and+Loretta%22&spell=1 real couples] out there named Stan and Loretta—too many for us to look at this as more than a coincidence without anything else to go on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**Notice how HRWIKI comes up first?
***'''comment''' You know, there are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22mike+and+matt%22&btnG=Search people] named "mike and matt" as well...but if you see a cartoon with those names in it, you bet your britches its a reference to TBC, right?
****Um, actually, no. Not automatically. Not without something else to tie it in. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.
*Major '''Decline'''. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 2:55 PM EDT 05/27/05.
*'''Decline.''' Even if the senders DID have MP in mind, it's not at all relevant. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept.''' If we speculate on TBC's intentions all the time, what's wrong with speculating about other people's intentions as well? Yes, if the names were more common, it could easily be a coincidence. But how many people do you know named Stan? How many named Loretta? How many people do you know that co-author 2-sentence e-mails together? Other pairs of 1st names that immediately conjure a reference, most with more common names: Jack and Bobby, George and Gracie, Bud and Lou, Jessica and Ashley.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:50, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
<s>*'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. </s> Actually, '''Rewrite.''' After thinking about it, there ''is'' a slight similarity, (Hence the fact that Homestar was drinking a lot more Melonade than he should and ended up having to use the bathroom), but it's really no reference. It just basically tells you that Homestar has a problem with over-drinking. Reword it not as a reference, but as a character trait. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:28 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Gotcha, and I stand by my decline -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' Now that Jay has cleared it up, I know what was meant by the above Fun Fact. It just needs to be reworded in a way that makes sense. (I.e. Homestar drinking several glasses of melonade may be a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].) Though we're never actually told in The Luau that Homestar urinated on all the logs that Strong Bad tried to light, it is obvious if you pay close attention. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:30, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' There's not enough for a reference. That's like saying that The poopsmith shovels crap is a reference to another time he shoveled crap.[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) (This would be a decline, but I've already voted)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
****ok thanks Jay--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' You never know what people don't know. I'm not sure if "half-and-half" is an Americanism, but if it is, a simple explanation like the one above would be useful for viewers from Foreign Lands. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm on a Declining Rampage!''' And did you know that Mountain Dew is a popular soda with spinoffs like Code Red and High Voltage?! ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:27, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
**Nope. Well, I knew it was a soda, but not the other stuff. (In short: bad example) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:57, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' Not that obvious. Not that interesting, either, but still not that obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment to thespludge''' What is high voltage? Are you referring to Livewire? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:57, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline.''' Need I say more? [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005
*'''Big-Time Decline'''. Needs to be ''baleeted!'' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:27 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:45, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

VERDICT: After just over two weeks of voting, this fact was Accepted with 16 valid accept votes and 8 valid declines. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
**Let's just leave it at '''Declined'''. While "alright" isn't accepted as proper English by everyone, it appears in the dictionary, and using "different" instead of "differently" is exactly the kind of subtle mocking of his fans that Strong Bad does all the time.[[User:Kyushu|Kyushu]]
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:new hands]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

*'''All is Off...Decline it Decline It!''' I'm sorry. I just don't see any connection whatsoever except for the fact that they both are music. If someone can see any resemblance, I'll change my vote. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
**'''SECOND'D'D'D'D'D'''--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' because you contradict yourself in your very next sentence. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a generic parody of crappy compilation CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*erm...no. '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' No sir, I don't like it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yo declino''' For the reasons stated above [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' How? Just because the rest of the email involves children? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 20:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second:''' Never thought of anything else when I saw the CD. Never even thought of Kidz Bop. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Remove the part about the CD-spine. That's random, lame, and belongs somewhere else.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Decline''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declinedified!''' It was only made for the name of the email person, All-is-on! It was just a coincidence. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Technocomment, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh...''' Even if this fact was accepted (which it probably won't be), you're saying two different ffffffffff *gag* fuuuuuuuu *sputter* fu-hun facts (hard to call it a FUN fact) [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:36, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

*'''Decline.''' We have the Appearances section on pages for items, characters, etc. to give information like this. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Besides, its not like the Pom Pilot is a item that appears in most cartoons, so I wouldn't think it would be that interesting anyway --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Yeah, I'd have to agree with this.... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because... ehh... because. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Already listed elsewhere. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' So, how else are you supposed to hang a link to the Pom Pilot in the article? I don't think we're supposed to put links in the transcript. The only other time that the Pom Pilot is mentioned is in Goofs. I guess you could put it there, but I don't really like that. Maybe we need a Props listing under the Cast listing (just an idea). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:06, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 04:58, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

*'''Must...deny...funfact!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>Revise The evidence shown is convincing, but it may still be a coincidence. If you can show a little more I'll accept.</strike>Since you failed to revise, Decline--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' The fact that this one actually contains the phrases "this '''may be''' and '''stretch'''ing things" should disqualify it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*<strike>Comment It still might be true. The "emerson" and "tark" things are convincing, he just needs to add a little more proof.</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*4 letters out of 26 can't convince me.[[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::*<strike>Hence why I said he needs more proof</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
:*And somehow I'm still not seeing it. Besides, he probably called him Emerson because adding "erson" onto someone's name is a HR running gag. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*According to this --> [[Names ending in -erson]] you are correct, <strike>it still could be a double gag though. However, I'm not accepting it yet anyway. As I said, he needs to give more proof. </strike>--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*'''Comment''' Although that is true, it was not a running gag at the time because this is the first appearance of it.
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes an -erson joke is just an -erson joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinexord''' Emerson is also a company that makes sinks and dishwashers, not to mention that Emerson is a real last name. Who knows where they were going? And who cares? -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:dangeresque 3]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

*'''Weak Accept''' I'm not sure if this is really worth pointing out but hey... it's true. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline''' True, but pointless. These should be ''fun'' facts, right? [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' The same could be said for the ending of Rock Opera. Remember, they're supposed to be "Fun facts" not "lets nit pick every little detail facts". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Accept This would make a good remark, yes. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Just as long as it's listed as a Fun Fact and not a Goof, I find it okay. It's not a Goof simply because he could be lip syncing and not really making any vocal sound. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, he's there. No, he's not singing. Yes, this phone is plugged in. We can tell that he's not singing by looking at him. Not fun in the least. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declome.''' Everyone's there, whether they want to sing or not. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch, GmbH|S-B, GmbH]]
*'''Decline''' And he isn't singing so... there isn't a problem... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''!d'enilceD''' Yeah, a lot of those people weren't even singing.
* And what about Pom Pom? All he can do is burble. Its just not worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This goes without saying. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral.''' Both sides make some pretty good points. -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:43, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Yeah, that's a good fact. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**And that stands for? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I'd really like to know why people have such a problem with this fact. It's true... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' It's not that it's wrong, it's just not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' No, he was running so fast that you couldn't see it. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' I noticed this too, but never thought to add it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Sorcended!!! I mean, second'd'''--[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Second''' Running so fast you couldn't see it my eye! --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''(Almost) Accept''' The aid of flashbooklets helps on this one. But I'm not really sure if it needs to be noted. To be honest, I checked for the bug before I read this, so it might be valid. --[[User:weirdguy|weirdguy]]
*'''Accept'''. I noticed this, and thought it was funny... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:13, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' So?? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 16:12, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's true. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:33, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*The pessemist that I am I attempted to discover exactly how and why this fact was false. I watched it several times over and tried to come up with some rationale for how the bug does not show up. In the end though I have to say that this is true, and it is interesting enough to stay '''Accept'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:58, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That's why he said "I DID swallow a bug" at the end, I think.
*'''Insert Homestar-related Accept pun here.''' I noticed this too. --[[user:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:03, 24 May 2005
*'''No!'''No, you people are SO technical! Think of what a normal person just watching the toon would see! He's running fast, everything around him is a blur, so you wouldn't notice it! Of course they didn't use one, but they don't have to there. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:52, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).

{{User:Gafaddict/STUFF verdict| verdict = declined| decline votes = 10| accept votes = 6| fun fact location = Bug in Mouth Disease}}

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".
*As the writer, I '''Accept''' it, but I put it here because I'm not sure if it's enough for a fun fact. I think the grammatical use of "whom" isn't exactly widely known, but some people might disagree. Also I'm not sure if it should go in Remarks or Explinations. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I know, I know, it's just a joke. I know, I know, not every joke requires an explanation. But speaking as a devoted silly fact slayer, I think this is worth a mention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Definetly depends on what section this is meant to go in. I would say remarks. '''Accept'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second. Which means accept. :P'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Few people know the rules of "who" and "whom" but it's still a grammatical error and therefore I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah its worth being there, though you might consider adding the fact that Strong Bad is famous for his anal-retentive attitudes on grammar yet he does not react to this common mistake. '''Accept''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is true and worthy of note...DELETED. That's what you thought I would say, right? Well, too bad. '''Accept''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I'm pretty sure TBC were under the impression that we should already know this, as that's the joke. No need for fun factization, it's pretty obvious. (to me at least)
** While most will realize that its wrong, they may not get WHY its wrong. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This may or may not have been intentional, and the fact that it's grammatically incorrect is obvious. No need state the obvious. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
**So if I walk up to the average guy on the street and ask "When should you gramatically use 'whom' rather than 'who' in a question?" he'd be able to tell me? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:30, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
***I would think so, yes. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
****Not everyone has the grasp of the English language that you do. In fact, the MAJORITY of people don't. :P [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I never noticed this. And the fact that Strong Bad did not criticize it makes it fun enough to be a fact. [[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 01:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined.''' This is a FUN fact? Maybe for an englilsh teacher, but not for me. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*''Accept/Comment'' Actually, it's quite the oppisite. An english teacher would think it's common sense.
*'''Accept''' It's true, and a lot of people don't understand when to use who vs. whom. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:16, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Too obvious, more than likely deliberate, and not all that "fun" in any case. -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.
''Due to ballot stuffing, the entire vote will be restarted. All votes except Jay's (since this is Jay clearing everything) have been deleted, so we're starting with a fresh entry.''
*'''"I'm-a gonna accept."''' This is a good fact, or at least I think so. It should say something about a paniced scream about getting hurt, usually capatilized when they say it a 2nd time.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 18:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is becoming something of an edit war, and the poster who added it won't STOP adding it, so I'm putting it to the vote. Vote away, people. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*I stick by my '''Accept''' [[User talk:greg2point0|greg2point0]]
*<strike>'''Accept''' Just once this time =P [[User talk:Hawk-Eye-100|Hawk-Eye-100]] 3:49</strike> ''(This is the same user as the above vote. Check the History.)''
** {smack} That was the sound of my head hitting the keyboard. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* Jay, why are we even voting on this if its just the one guy who thinks it should be accepted? His cheating should've dis-qualified this fact from the get go. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
** To make a point, I suppose. He WASN'T STOPPING. He was even editing my "don't add this" note. I'm trying to take the higher ground here. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mere coincidence. And breaking the rules isn't cool. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:16 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Also comment that just because someone tried to cheat the vote doesn't mean the fact itself should be scrapped immediately, in my opinion. It should wait the two weeks from when the vote was restarted and considered unanimously declined (unless someone other than this cheater gives an accept vote of course). --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 11:47, 11 May 2005
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' IMHO, the '''four''' user names and ''two'' IP addresses involved in this incident should be banned permanently. This Wiki looks the way it does because the vast majority of the community follows the rules, both written and implied. Those who don't shouid not be welcome here (again IMHO). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and permaban the IP's. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meh, accept.'''(Upgraded vote: '''Meh, Very weak accpet.''') This guy's awfully devoted to getting his fact up, and it ''Italic text''is''Italic text'' true. Heck, I didn't even realize it until I read this. Anything that does so should work as a fun fact, no? So I don't see what's wrong with it but I think this should be in "remarks." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Sigh...TK, one guy does all the voices for the characters (Powered by The Cheat, Marzipan, and Teeg Dougland aside). Of course every once in awhile there is going to be similiar sounding dialouge. And just because a fact is true, doesn't make it fun. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
***Right. We could say "this is the first 'toon where Strong Bad tapes his head to the TV," and we wouldn't be wrong, but who cares? Anyway, I doubt that there's any real connection between these - they sound kinda similar, but that's it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Yeah, I guess...I'm going to demote my vote to '''Meh, very weak accept.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:39, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>I agree, it should go in "remarks". So '''Second'''. [[User:Supyall|Supyall]]</strike> ''(What is your deal? You can only vote once!)''
***Hmmmm. Where have I seen this user name before? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*We gave him repeated warnings and he's still breaking the rules. I say ban him. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Three-day suspension as of now. If he does it again it'll be indefinite. We warned him multiple times. Does he think we're stupid or something? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' - Dingell
*Whoever keeps putting this up, FYAD. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Dare I ask what that stands for? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*** ...you and die ;) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Oh. You learn something new every day, I guess... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Despite the chaox of this... Voting process, I say '''Accept'''. Could be a refferance...''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* As another mighty fun fact slayer said: Could be's are not cool. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll Accept your FACE!!''' to a bloody...pulp... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Not that it really matters, but is this an accept or decline?
*No no no no no! VERY small liason. VERY unlikely to be reference. VERY declined. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I wasn't going to step in, but considering the surprizing number of accept votes, I have to. This is coincidence people, nothing more. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:34, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even if they're a bit similar, it's nothing worth noting. -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.
*'''Now ''this'' fact is totally worth my time and consideration DECLINED!!''' Very, very different type of "one" being referred to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Seconded -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
***'''Seconded.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*Oh, for the love of...it's a ''word'' people! We're not here to keep taps on every time a character says something twice! '''Decline'''[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second'd!!!'''What he said--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Bupkis'd''' Ummm ... decline! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*If there were ever a candidate to be immediately '''Deleted''' (skipping the STUFF process), this is it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''And once again so as to make me sound like a broken record: Not everything is meant to refer to something else.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second this "one".''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What!? No! No!! No!!! I mean, no! Never! No! What? No!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and STFU. (I'm in a bad mood today, deal with it.) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
* Decline. No. Just--just no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:21, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Definitely the wrong kind of ones. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''EXTREMELY STRONG DECLINE''' no not at all. I'm right, your wrong
*'''Well, there's more than one One.... Declined...''' No->No->No. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 04:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE³''' This is the biggest stretch EVER! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''De-freakin'-cline''' What made you think that??? -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:45 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''Down with Declined...ding.''' There's no real correlation here, as everyone else pretty much said. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:46, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''Sorry, Declined!''' This guy is dumb. Obviously the blue ones do NOT mean blue cold ones or blue numbers. It means a blue item with THIS NUMBER:1. All of us probably use this type of language all the time. For example:I already have those ones![[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.
*'''Decline as written''' Is it? I'm not sure. But "in years" is unprofessional. If you can provide an actual time span - and be accurate - then maybe you've got something here... if said time span is impressive enough. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I put on my detective hat and had a look. The last eggless toon was [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], a month and a half ago. Before that was the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] 3 months ago. [[Under Construction]] and most of the [[Puppet Stuff]] is eggless. If it is rewritten "The first cartoon (except April Fools features and live action) ..." then the last was [[Ballad of The Sneak]], 10 and a half months ago. Discounting music videos too, the latest was [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], 13 months ago. '''In summary''' - as written it is false, and rewriting to make it even one year ago requires too many caveats to be interesting. '''Decline'''. Incidentally, the last eggless email was [[property of ones]], and I put that in its Trivia section. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**All right, that settles that. '''Second''' and this "fact" may as well be closed now. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Okay,''' how about "This cartoon contains no Easter eggs"? Or, better, put the Easter egg section up with "(none)" listed under it. That way, people don't have to wonder whether there were eggs but we somehow forgot to list them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
** '''Not necessary''' We don't do that for any OTHER egg-less toon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Why not?''' It would make them all more complete. Where's the harm? Besides, since people ''expect'' the eggs, it's news when there are none. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Possibly:
<pre> Unlike most recent cartoons featuring the Freecounty, USA characters,
this one contains no easter eggs. </pre> -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:56 May 10, 2005
*'''ATTENTION POSTERS ALL!!''' I think what the post-er was trying to say was that it was the first ''Big Toon'' in whatever years, so this needs a '''rewrite''', changing "cartoon" to "Big toon" or "toon." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 10 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' In which case the last was [[Where's The Cheat?]] in February 25, 2002. However there have been so few "Big Toons" that my previous comment about the sample space being too small to be interesting still holds. I stick by my decline. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If a toon doesn't have an egg, it doesn't have an egg. People are smart enough to figure that out if there aren't any listed on the Toon's wiki entry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*GUYS! He means BIG toon! And He's Right! But he needs to REwrite it! '''ACCEPT BUT REWRITE FIRST!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' My only question is: what is "fun" about this fact? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Absolutly nothing. Its just another example of Wiki members thinking we need to document every last worthless detail. And while I appreciate rewrites, they're a pain when you have to keep changing whats being rewritten as parts of the fact are picked apart.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite.''' As others have said before, it should be noted that this is the first ''Big'' Toon to contain no Easter eggs in over three years. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:21, 11 May 2005
*'''Neutral''' While I noticed this too, I also noticed that this is the only Big Cartoon that has no credits of any kind either. Makes an interesting remark on its own, but I don't know... --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 02:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*O.K...I made up my mind: '''Decline'''. Look people, you could also say that this is the first cartoon to feature Homestar naked in a long time, but would that make it any more "fun"? I think not. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Going back to the last toon thing...actually, the last long toon was [[Shopping for Danger]], if you want to talk most recently. The last toon featuring the H*R universe was [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]], last year. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** Not exactly - Shopping for Danger DID have an Easter Egg, and SBIIJ had extra scenes after "THE END" (some people count those as Easter Eggs, even though they're not listed as such in our articles). Not as though I'm defending this fact or anything, just trying to keep out own facts straight. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' We can't start keeping track of this kinda thing... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I'd cut out "first in years" and replace it with something like: "a rarity to have no easter eggs." -Walking Armless
**(Not a vote.) Exactly.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:42, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.
:''NOTE: We're voting on the CGNU portion, not the tiny portion.''
*<strike>'''Neutral''' The wording is very very poor, but I'll leave it to the vote. Y'no, if anyone cares about this page any more. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)</strike> Know what? I'm changing to '''Decline''' because, truth is, we really DON'T know that he's a CGNU graduate, and we don't really need the speculation. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*Bubs attends night classes at Disco Tech according to the [[Homestar Quiz]]. Perhaps they had a VCR repair course? Or maybe Bubs is just an unethical quack who tapes clocks to broken VCRs. It's possible that he went to CGNU, but since we don't know, I give it a '''Decline'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''So weak that its creepy decline''' GEEEEEEZZZZ OH PEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ! YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TOO HARD!! Oh yeah and the post above mine, I agree with that so I guess this is kind of a '''second,''' too. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' Ohhhh, people with way too much, time on their hands, doo doo doo! [[User:DancingRobots| DancingRobots]]
*So because among Bubs's fake (I assume) buisness cards, there is one that says "Dr" Bubs, we assume he probably has a doctorate in something? He didn't just make it up and shove it on a card? Bubs Normal Investigator is also apparantly not affiliated with Bubs Paranormal Investigator, does that mean we should make a fun fact that Bubs must have multiple personalities, or there are several Bubs's or something? Of course not. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''. You see, the joke is, in the e-mail [[CGNU]], Strong Bad is offering classes in TV/VCR Repair. Bubs could have gotten his certificate. Obviously the paranormal/normal investigator is an independant joke, not relevant here. I think the idea of Bubs attending a Strong Bad class is funny enough to keep it. And to those that say he didnt neccesarily go to CGNU, I ask you this: What other school in the H*R universe has TV/VCR Repair classes? He MUST have gone to CGNU, because it is the only school. I rest my case. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 01:25, 13 May 2005
** Right. We know that. But we KNOW that Bubs tried to repair a VCR in [[12:00]]. We DON'T know that Bubs is a CGNU graduate. Without this knowledge, this is nothing more than speculation about a common use of a couple of common words. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Exactly how "Common" is "TV/VCR Repair"? I havent used that phrase in real life, ever. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** So you've NEVER seen an infomercial? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** ''(on the edit)'' We can't answer the "which school" because the only one we know about is CGNU - but that doesn't mean it's the only school! And we don't know Bubs went to ANY school for VCR repair. And just because you think it's funny, that's no reason to keep it in and of itself. And, BTW, was it necessary to change the title of this fact (formerly "See Gee In Bubs")? Yours makes it look too similar to vvv that one. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**It seems to me that the CGNU thing and Bubs' business cards both refer to the same real-life observation -- a lot of ads for sketchy correspondance schools prominently advertise "TV/VCR Repair" as a "major". So this is not referencing CGNU, it's just referencing a general occurrence. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:22, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*What does "See Gee In Bubs" mean anyway??? I don't get it. "Dr. Bubs" makes it clear that we are questioning his Dr. Bubs business card. "See Gee In Bubs"... doesnt mean anything to me. Please explain. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**[[mascot|See Gee In You]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**OHHH Now I get it. I was reading it too literally. Well, change it back if you want. Its a wiki. Maybe make it "CNG - bUbs" --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 03:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.
*So weak a connection. I thought I would '''Decline''' it! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*I '''accept''' it, certainly. [[User:Cookiecaper|Cookiecaper]] 23:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dr. Decline''' And why? There's no connection except the word "Doctor" and Bubs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 23:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Shut up kid!''' Nah, Homestar is just being silly. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Upon further consideration, this reference is awfully weak. [[User:SilverSurfer|SilverSurfer]]
*'''Decline''' Everything is a reference to everything these days, eh? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24 10 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Even if it's not an intentional reference, it's a good catch! - Dingell
** Uh... if it's not intentional then it's not a reference. And, as thus, the "fact" is not. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I shoulda '''declined''' this like a million years ago! [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* I was the person who wrote this fun fact. It was what I thought of when I saw the toon, but I understand that the connection is quite weak. Actually, I'm a little surprised no one said anything about the "could be" in there. Anyway, since most of you feel the same way, I cheerfully withdraw the fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could be's aren't usually good anyway. I'm gonna say no and hit it with a little '''uh digga digga digga digga digga digga digga DECLINED!''' -- SBEmail22
**'''Second''' -[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".
*'''Decline''' This is another case of thinking a similar joke on the same phenomenon is the origin of the joke itself. "My stories" is simply how some people refer to the soap operas they watch. Heck, George Carlin makes reference to that in an album from the '70s, and that's not the origin either -- it's just that sweet English language in action again. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 12:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deliciously Declined''' And I'm glad someone saw fit to remove the "fact" stating the stories gag was a Simpsons reference. C'mon folks, not every little detail in the HR universe is derived from something else. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding those above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When someone refers to a TV show as a story, they're talking about a soap opera. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:41 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 20:18, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delteated!''' STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING again, ain't we? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you were to mention all the things this [http://www.google.com/search?q=grandma+%22watching+her+stories%22 could have come from] then we'd get a TTATOT. And while finding out what the origin of this phrase was would be good, it's probably not going to happen, and it's almost certainly not this. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's just a common saying among grandmas, like "gar-bazhe" among moms. My grandma is always referring to TV shows as "stories" - Dingell
*MAY BE != IS. '''DECLINE''' *exhales* [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED. [[User: James Craven|James Craven]]

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

*'''Accept''', If 'likely' is changed to 'possibly'. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** They're still forms of the phrase "may be". '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*Or it could be Masterpiece Theater. Who knows... who cares? Too much speculation. '''Decline, old boy''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Good thinkin there. -- Dingell
*Naaaahhhhh '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment''' If I remember correctly, I think [[The Announcer]] has a British accent. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:06, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Nothing more than speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Dacline.''' I see wut you're saying, but the Caleb Rentpayer sounds more of a soap then something Public Television would view (although EVERYTHING is technically "public television" I am referring to channels like PBS, as I think SB was). I think the show SB is talking about was probably a documentary hosted by a british guy (which PBS is chock-full of.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' We're not talking about Caleb Rentpayer, we're talking about the show Strong SAD is watching... [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:08, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' Actually a very good catch. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline''' though that show was hosted by a British guy there are a lot of real life PBS shows hosted by British people, like almost every NOVA episode ever made [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination.''' No connection. Next! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:01, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:03, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''You're missing the point!!''' We already know that it's based on G.I. Joe! The whole point is that Matt is imitating the voice of Cobra Commander, but not his voice actor. Accepting this fact is like saying "If you imitate the voice of Homestar, then you are imitating/referencing/making-fun-of Matt Chapman because he is the voice actor." If three other people add to my '''Decline''', we can get The Eggman to close this fact and put it out of its misery. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 14:44, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
(UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Definitely a ''Diff'rent Strokes'' reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' TBC does like to be silly with their names, such as their Bill Bellamy schoolbell. While the bell is a specific reference, I'm sure any name with "bell" would have worked. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
====Peacy Prize====
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bushes====
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[privileges]]===
====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.
==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2005-06-03T06:08:38Z

AnarchyBalsac: /* Lurking around */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts lthat have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===

====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
*'''Decline.''' If I had a nickel for every declined fun fact, I would throw them at people at the Food Court from the railing like up above. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why would someone think that this "fact" could be "fun" at all? Who really cares what Bubs gives as change? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Congratulations you know how to count change, you want a cookie? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*wow 16 cents i think im going to have a heart attack.'''Decline'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Marzipan and those are gonna summon her dead plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probly just end up DECLINING...''' Need I say more? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 21:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. The less trival the better. '''''Baleete and Burninate!''''' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:19 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Sorry, your "Fun Fact" has just been killed by a DECLINE!''' This fact isn't fun and it is not worth noting because who cares about how much change Bubs gives as change. For Example: Oh, I'm just going to look at these three funny copper coins because I'm too curious to do anything else! Oh, wait, those are some red rocks.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
===[[Senorial Day]]===

====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
*'''Decline.''' I'm not convinced. I compared it with several online photos of Freddie -- Freddie doesn't appear to have quite the same head shape, nor does he have the nose spots, mismatched eyes, or lolling tongue. This would seem to be just a generic frog costume. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' [http://www.angelfire.com/ny/nyuk/froggy.html Plunk] your magic [http://michelesworld.net/dmm/frog/gremlin/plunk.htm twanger], [http://www.tvacres.com/frogs_froggie.htm froggy]! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''Too much of a stretch, next thing you know someone will say it looks like the Don Gero’s mask from ''Majora's Mask''. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Second'''. Weaker than a bantamweight against a light-middleweight. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:30 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Declizziefizzine''' I think it looks more like Don Gero's mask from ''Majora's Mask.'' Getting you irritated, huh, ThePardack? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")
*'''Accept''' I like it but I know some people here probably won't. Bonus points if you know where the title of this fact came from! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I hear they're looking for a few good users over to the Kim Possible Wiki. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny, and it's true. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If not as a fun fact, then at least as a "Remark". -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**Er, a Remark ''is'' a Fun Fact... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Vera Weak Decline.''' Interesting, but ... nah. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted!''' Congrats, you got yourself an interesting fun fact! Funny and true! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept as a remark.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak accept''' its interesting...but is it really noteworthy? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Prooty good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Acceptable in my sight.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Everyone else was doing it. I just wanted to be popular. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Why not? [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:31 AM EDT 6/2/05
*'''Accept''' This is a grood one. It's kinda weird that Strong Bad, Mr. Grammar himself, made this mistake. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 15:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Its not a mistake, its just kind of funny. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept you Helvetica.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:23, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".
*'''Accept.''' Toy-otathon. Bubs-otathon. Can't think of any other "-otathons". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This is a clear "Real-World" reference. The suffix "otathon" is totally complete here. It's not too obvious for a fun fact, is it? It wasn't immediately clear to me. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**'''Second.''' Huh? Why was this STUFF'd? It's clearly a reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' I STUFF'd it because it was added, then removed, then added... I put it here so it could be definitively added. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondathon''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I remember those commercials... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:17, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Now, why was this STUFF'd? While it may be obvious, like tomstiff said, no other -otathons.
'''Accept-otathon-erson.''' (damn, my first -erson joke.)--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:21, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's the only other use of the "otathon" suffix of which I've heard. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' What else would it be? Of course it is. ^_^[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:42, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yep -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**D'oh, how could I forget? But I remembered. '''SECOND TO THE POWER OF THE SECOND''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' And truly, this never should have been stuffed. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' Just one small problem: that should be "A sales event" not "AN sales event." I'm a grammar Nazi, so... yeah. Good catch on the reference though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:90, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Accept''' If any other character had spoken the line then yes, yes it would have been a coincidence. But Jay is right, is there any other reason for them to have used lurk other than it to be a reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**What "could be"? This is a solid IS fact, and I worded it as such in my vote. BTW, the only reason this got STUFFED was because I put it on the page, it got deleted, someone else put the rewrite on the page, it got deleted, and this was my comprimise. Yes, ''I'' STUFFed it - because it wasn't going to be left on the page if I hadn't! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Lurk is just a word, it could very easily be a coincidence. Especially since it is a very commonly used word. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' But did anyone else catch that the fact says Strong Sad is called a lurker by himself? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Seconded with modifacation''': Agreed with Pardack. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 6:43 PM, June 2 2005 (EDT)
**Fixxored. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All the proposed rewrites may as well have "may be" or "could be" latched onto them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**It is quite interesting though. And somebody's bound to submit it again, aren't they? [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 19:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Nah. I'm with you on this one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] '''accepts''' this.I see that you're right.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded'''. Didn't notice until I saw it. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:16 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

*'''Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out.''' I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It tastes like a #1 DECLINE!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*It's obvious, but '''DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. [[User: GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept''' Why the heck not? by the way, are you feelin' alrite cheetachu72? you seem a little out of it.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*No *sigh* I'm okay. Just have mood swings now and then. WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUT OF IT?!? RRRRRRRRRRRRR! {gets hit by tranquilizer darts} uuuuuuuuuuu, {smack head against keyboard} [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I really don't see what's wrong with this fun fact. It's true the time capsule looks like the Isle of Pom. Plus, fans wouldn't be able to tell unless they go to the museum, which I myself didn't bother looking at until I was a hardcore fan. Yes, a capsule is a common shape, but I haven't seen it on the website too much, which makes it stand out a little. So '''Accept'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!!''' Who cares! And Stinkoman looks like Strong Bad! -Kinsey
*'''DECLINE!DECLINE!!DECLINE!!!'''[[User:Pac-man|Pac-man]] 16:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If there are indeed more than just a few things with this capsule shape, then a page needs to be created for them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
* '''TOTAL DECLINE'''. Listen, if some new guy watched both Time capsule and the Isle of Pom, they would suddenly make that reference! DELETE IT! [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] Oh, and one more thing. The fact is already in the Fun Facts section of Time Capsule!!!!!![[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005
**'''Seconded''' for obvious reasons. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:13 AM EDT June 3 2005

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the well-known Japanese series
Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It was revamped for '90s North America, and had many
episodes cut out, including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:59, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mail's authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*We are the Knights who say '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''A nice and non-hurtful decline''' I just say let this one rest, and cease and desist arguing over such silly things. Silly silly silly I say -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, but Decline.''' Once again, this is stretching it big time. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:19 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''DECLINING...''' Until I e-mail the Brothers Chaps if they watch Monty Python. Which probably they will. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Burninating crappy Fun Facts, AND THEIR STRETCHABILITY! STRETCHABILITY!''' I'll just call over my friends, non-Stan and Lorreta, since obviously, there are no other Stans and Lorretas in the world, to see what they think of this. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I have actually seen the movie unlike at least one person on this page. It seems to be more or less correct. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' There are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-53,GGLD:en&q=%22Stan+and+Loretta%22&spell=1 real couples] out there named Stan and Loretta—too many for us to look at this as more than a coincidence without anything else to go on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**Notice how HRWIKI comes up first?
***'''comment''' You know, there are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22mike+and+matt%22&btnG=Search people] named "mike and matt" as well...but if you see a cartoon with those names in it, you bet your britches its a reference to TBC, right?
****Um, actually, no. Not automatically. Not without something else to tie it in. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.
*Major '''Decline'''. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 2:55 PM EDT 05/27/05.
*'''Decline.''' Even if the senders DID have MP in mind, it's not at all relevant. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept.''' If we speculate on TBC's intentions all the time, what's wrong with speculating about other people's intentions as well? Yes, if the names were more common, it could easily be a coincidence. But how many people do you know named Stan? How many named Loretta? How many people do you know that co-author 2-sentence e-mails together? Other pairs of 1st names that immediately conjure a reference, most with more common names: Jack and Bobby, George and Gracie, Bud and Lou, Jessica and Ashley.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:50, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
<s>*'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. </s> Actually, '''Rewrite.''' After thinking about it, there ''is'' a slight similarity, (Hence the fact that Homestar was drinking a lot more Melonade than he should and ended up having to use the bathroom), but it's really no reference. It just basically tells you that Homestar has a problem with over-drinking. Reword it not as a reference, but as a character trait. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:28 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Gotcha, and I stand by my decline -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' Now that Jay has cleared it up, I know what was meant by the above Fun Fact. It just needs to be reworded in a way that makes sense. (I.e. Homestar drinking several glasses of melonade may be a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].) Though we're never actually told in The Luau that Homestar urinated on all the logs that Strong Bad tried to light, it is obvious if you pay close attention. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:30, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' There's not enough for a reference. That's like saying that The poopsmith shovels crap is a reference to another time he shoveled crap.[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) (This would be a decline, but I've already voted)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
****ok thanks Jay--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' You never know what people don't know. I'm not sure if "half-and-half" is an Americanism, but if it is, a simple explanation like the one above would be useful for viewers from Foreign Lands. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm on a Declining Rampage!''' And did you know that Mountain Dew is a popular soda with spinoffs like Code Red and High Voltage?! ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:27, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
**Nope. Well, I knew it was a soda, but not the other stuff. (In short: bad example) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:57, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' Not that obvious. Not that interesting, either, but still not that obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment to thespludge''' What is high voltage? Are you referring to Livewire? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:57, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline.''' Need I say more? [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005
*'''Big-Time Decline'''. Needs to be ''baleeted!'' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:27 AM EDT June 3 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:45, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

VERDICT: After just over two weeks of voting, this fact was Accepted with 16 valid accept votes and 8 valid declines. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
**Let's just leave it at '''Declined'''. While "alright" isn't accepted as proper English by everyone, it appears in the dictionary, and using "different" instead of "differently" is exactly the kind of subtle mocking of his fans that Strong Bad does all the time.[[User:Kyushu|Kyushu]]
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:new hands]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[kind of cool]] ===
====Homestar's Singing====

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
*'''Vera Weak Accept.''' It seemed to me a 2 out of the 3 phrases were sung that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

*'''All is Off...Decline it Decline It!''' I'm sorry. I just don't see any connection whatsoever except for the fact that they both are music. If someone can see any resemblance, I'll change my vote. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
**'''SECOND'D'D'D'D'D'''--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' because you contradict yourself in your very next sentence. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a generic parody of crappy compilation CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*erm...no. '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' No sir, I don't like it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yo declino''' For the reasons stated above [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' How? Just because the rest of the email involves children? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 20:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second:''' Never thought of anything else when I saw the CD. Never even thought of Kidz Bop. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Remove the part about the CD-spine. That's random, lame, and belongs somewhere else.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Decline''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declinedified!''' It was only made for the name of the email person, All-is-on! It was just a coincidence. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Technocomment, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh...''' Even if this fact was accepted (which it probably won't be), you're saying two different ffffffffff *gag* fuuuuuuuu *sputter* fu-hun facts (hard to call it a FUN fact) [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:36, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

*'''Decline.''' We have the Appearances section on pages for items, characters, etc. to give information like this. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Besides, its not like the Pom Pilot is a item that appears in most cartoons, so I wouldn't think it would be that interesting anyway --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Yeah, I'd have to agree with this.... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because... ehh... because. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Already listed elsewhere. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' So, how else are you supposed to hang a link to the Pom Pilot in the article? I don't think we're supposed to put links in the transcript. The only other time that the Pom Pilot is mentioned is in Goofs. I guess you could put it there, but I don't really like that. Maybe we need a Props listing under the Cast listing (just an idea). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:06, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 04:58, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

*'''Must...deny...funfact!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>Revise The evidence shown is convincing, but it may still be a coincidence. If you can show a little more I'll accept.</strike>Since you failed to revise, Decline--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' The fact that this one actually contains the phrases "this '''may be''' and '''stretch'''ing things" should disqualify it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*<strike>Comment It still might be true. The "emerson" and "tark" things are convincing, he just needs to add a little more proof.</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*4 letters out of 26 can't convince me.[[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::*<strike>Hence why I said he needs more proof</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
:*And somehow I'm still not seeing it. Besides, he probably called him Emerson because adding "erson" onto someone's name is a HR running gag. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*According to this --> [[Names ending in -erson]] you are correct, <strike>it still could be a double gag though. However, I'm not accepting it yet anyway. As I said, he needs to give more proof. </strike>--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*'''Comment''' Although that is true, it was not a running gag at the time because this is the first appearance of it.
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes an -erson joke is just an -erson joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinexord''' Emerson is also a company that makes sinks and dishwashers, not to mention that Emerson is a real last name. Who knows where they were going? And who cares? -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:dangeresque 3]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

*'''Weak Accept''' I'm not sure if this is really worth pointing out but hey... it's true. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline''' True, but pointless. These should be ''fun'' facts, right? [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' The same could be said for the ending of Rock Opera. Remember, they're supposed to be "Fun facts" not "lets nit pick every little detail facts". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Accept This would make a good remark, yes. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Just as long as it's listed as a Fun Fact and not a Goof, I find it okay. It's not a Goof simply because he could be lip syncing and not really making any vocal sound. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, he's there. No, he's not singing. Yes, this phone is plugged in. We can tell that he's not singing by looking at him. Not fun in the least. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declome.''' Everyone's there, whether they want to sing or not. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch, GmbH|S-B, GmbH]]
*'''Decline''' And he isn't singing so... there isn't a problem... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''!d'enilceD''' Yeah, a lot of those people weren't even singing.
* And what about Pom Pom? All he can do is burble. Its just not worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This goes without saying. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral.''' Both sides make some pretty good points. -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:43, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Yeah, that's a good fact. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline.''' ADATMBGR -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I'd really like to know why people have such a problem with this fact. It's true... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' It's not that it's wrong, it's just not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' No, he was running so fast that you couldn't see it. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' I noticed this too, but never thought to add it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Sorcended!!! I mean, second'd'''--[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Second''' Running so fast you couldn't see it my eye! --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''(Almost) Accept''' The aid of flashbooklets helps on this one. But I'm not really sure if it needs to be noted. To be honest, I checked for the bug before I read this, so it might be valid. --[[User:weirdguy|weirdguy]]
*'''Accept'''. I noticed this, and thought it was funny... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:13, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' So?? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 16:12, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's true. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:33, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*The pessemist that I am I attempted to discover exactly how and why this fact was false. I watched it several times over and tried to come up with some rationale for how the bug does not show up. In the end though I have to say that this is true, and it is interesting enough to stay '''Accept'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:58, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That's why he said "I DID swallow a bug" at the end, I think.
*'''Insert Homestar-related Accept pun here.''' I noticed this too. --[[user:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:03, 24 May 2005
*'''No!'''No, you people are SO technical! Think of what a normal person just watching the toon would see! He's running fast, everything around him is a blur, so you wouldn't notice it! Of course they didn't use one, but they don't have to there. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:52, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug In Mouth Disease]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).

{{User:Gafaddict/STUFF verdict| verdict = declined| decline votes = 10| accept votes = 6| fun fact location = Bug in Mouth Disease}}

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".
*As the writer, I '''Accept''' it, but I put it here because I'm not sure if it's enough for a fun fact. I think the grammatical use of "whom" isn't exactly widely known, but some people might disagree. Also I'm not sure if it should go in Remarks or Explinations. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I know, I know, it's just a joke. I know, I know, not every joke requires an explanation. But speaking as a devoted silly fact slayer, I think this is worth a mention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Definetly depends on what section this is meant to go in. I would say remarks. '''Accept'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second. Which means accept. :P'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Few people know the rules of "who" and "whom" but it's still a grammatical error and therefore I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah its worth being there, though you might consider adding the fact that Strong Bad is famous for his anal-retentive attitudes on grammar yet he does not react to this common mistake. '''Accept''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is true and worthy of note...DELETED. That's what you thought I would say, right? Well, too bad. '''Accept''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I'm pretty sure TBC were under the impression that we should already know this, as that's the joke. No need for fun factization, it's pretty obvious. (to me at least)
** While most will realize that its wrong, they may not get WHY its wrong. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This may or may not have been intentional, and the fact that it's grammatically incorrect is obvious. No need state the obvious. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
**So if I walk up to the average guy on the street and ask "When should you gramatically use 'whom' rather than 'who' in a question?" he'd be able to tell me? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:30, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
***I would think so, yes. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
****Not everyone has the grasp of the English language that you do. In fact, the MAJORITY of people don't. :P [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I never noticed this. And the fact that Strong Bad did not criticize it makes it fun enough to be a fact. [[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 01:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined.''' This is a FUN fact? Maybe for an englilsh teacher, but not for me. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*''Accept/Comment'' Actually, it's quite the oppisite. An english teacher would think it's common sense.
*'''Accept''' It's true, and a lot of people don't understand when to use who vs. whom. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:16, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Too obvious, more than likely deliberate, and not all that "fun" in any case. -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.
''Due to ballot stuffing, the entire vote will be restarted. All votes except Jay's (since this is Jay clearing everything) have been deleted, so we're starting with a fresh entry.''
*'''"I'm-a gonna accept."''' This is a good fact, or at least I think so. It should say something about a paniced scream about getting hurt, usually capatilized when they say it a 2nd time.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 18:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is becoming something of an edit war, and the poster who added it won't STOP adding it, so I'm putting it to the vote. Vote away, people. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*I stick by my '''Accept''' [[User talk:greg2point0|greg2point0]]
*<strike>'''Accept''' Just once this time =P [[User talk:Hawk-Eye-100|Hawk-Eye-100]] 3:49</strike> ''(This is the same user as the above vote. Check the History.)''
** {smack} That was the sound of my head hitting the keyboard. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* Jay, why are we even voting on this if its just the one guy who thinks it should be accepted? His cheating should've dis-qualified this fact from the get go. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
** To make a point, I suppose. He WASN'T STOPPING. He was even editing my "don't add this" note. I'm trying to take the higher ground here. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mere coincidence. And breaking the rules isn't cool. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:16 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Also comment that just because someone tried to cheat the vote doesn't mean the fact itself should be scrapped immediately, in my opinion. It should wait the two weeks from when the vote was restarted and considered unanimously declined (unless someone other than this cheater gives an accept vote of course). --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 11:47, 11 May 2005
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' IMHO, the '''four''' user names and ''two'' IP addresses involved in this incident should be banned permanently. This Wiki looks the way it does because the vast majority of the community follows the rules, both written and implied. Those who don't shouid not be welcome here (again IMHO). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and permaban the IP's. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meh, accept.'''(Upgraded vote: '''Meh, Very weak accpet.''') This guy's awfully devoted to getting his fact up, and it ''Italic text''is''Italic text'' true. Heck, I didn't even realize it until I read this. Anything that does so should work as a fun fact, no? So I don't see what's wrong with it but I think this should be in "remarks." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Sigh...TK, one guy does all the voices for the characters (Powered by The Cheat, Marzipan, and Teeg Dougland aside). Of course every once in awhile there is going to be similiar sounding dialouge. And just because a fact is true, doesn't make it fun. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
***Right. We could say "this is the first 'toon where Strong Bad tapes his head to the TV," and we wouldn't be wrong, but who cares? Anyway, I doubt that there's any real connection between these - they sound kinda similar, but that's it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Yeah, I guess...I'm going to demote my vote to '''Meh, very weak accept.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:39, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>I agree, it should go in "remarks". So '''Second'''. [[User:Supyall|Supyall]]</strike> ''(What is your deal? You can only vote once!)''
***Hmmmm. Where have I seen this user name before? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*We gave him repeated warnings and he's still breaking the rules. I say ban him. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Three-day suspension as of now. If he does it again it'll be indefinite. We warned him multiple times. Does he think we're stupid or something? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' - Dingell
*Whoever keeps putting this up, FYAD. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Dare I ask what that stands for? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*** ...you and die ;) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Oh. You learn something new every day, I guess... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Despite the chaox of this... Voting process, I say '''Accept'''. Could be a refferance...''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* As another mighty fun fact slayer said: Could be's are not cool. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll Accept your FACE!!''' to a bloody...pulp... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Not that it really matters, but is this an accept or decline?
*No no no no no! VERY small liason. VERY unlikely to be reference. VERY declined. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I wasn't going to step in, but considering the surprizing number of accept votes, I have to. This is coincidence people, nothing more. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:34, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even if they're a bit similar, it's nothing worth noting. -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.
*'''Now ''this'' fact is totally worth my time and consideration DECLINED!!''' Very, very different type of "one" being referred to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Seconded -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
***'''Seconded.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*Oh, for the love of...it's a ''word'' people! We're not here to keep taps on every time a character says something twice! '''Decline'''[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second'd!!!'''What he said--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Bupkis'd''' Ummm ... decline! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*If there were ever a candidate to be immediately '''Deleted''' (skipping the STUFF process), this is it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''And once again so as to make me sound like a broken record: Not everything is meant to refer to something else.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second this "one".''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What!? No! No!! No!!! I mean, no! Never! No! What? No!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and STFU. (I'm in a bad mood today, deal with it.) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
* Decline. No. Just--just no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:21, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Definitely the wrong kind of ones. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''EXTREMELY STRONG DECLINE''' no not at all. I'm right, your wrong
*'''Well, there's more than one One.... Declined...''' No->No->No. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 04:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE³''' This is the biggest stretch EVER! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''De-freakin'-cline''' What made you think that??? -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:45 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''Down with Declined...ding.''' There's no real correlation here, as everyone else pretty much said. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:46, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''Sorry, Declined!''' This guy is dumb. Obviously the blue ones do NOT mean blue cold ones or blue numbers. It means a blue item with THIS NUMBER:1. All of us probably use this type of language all the time. For example:I already have those ones![[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 05:25, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.
*'''Decline as written''' Is it? I'm not sure. But "in years" is unprofessional. If you can provide an actual time span - and be accurate - then maybe you've got something here... if said time span is impressive enough. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I put on my detective hat and had a look. The last eggless toon was [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], a month and a half ago. Before that was the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] 3 months ago. [[Under Construction]] and most of the [[Puppet Stuff]] is eggless. If it is rewritten "The first cartoon (except April Fools features and live action) ..." then the last was [[Ballad of The Sneak]], 10 and a half months ago. Discounting music videos too, the latest was [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], 13 months ago. '''In summary''' - as written it is false, and rewriting to make it even one year ago requires too many caveats to be interesting. '''Decline'''. Incidentally, the last eggless email was [[property of ones]], and I put that in its Trivia section. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**All right, that settles that. '''Second''' and this "fact" may as well be closed now. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Okay,''' how about "This cartoon contains no Easter eggs"? Or, better, put the Easter egg section up with "(none)" listed under it. That way, people don't have to wonder whether there were eggs but we somehow forgot to list them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
** '''Not necessary''' We don't do that for any OTHER egg-less toon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Why not?''' It would make them all more complete. Where's the harm? Besides, since people ''expect'' the eggs, it's news when there are none. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Possibly:
<pre> Unlike most recent cartoons featuring the Freecounty, USA characters,
this one contains no easter eggs. </pre> -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:56 May 10, 2005
*'''ATTENTION POSTERS ALL!!''' I think what the post-er was trying to say was that it was the first ''Big Toon'' in whatever years, so this needs a '''rewrite''', changing "cartoon" to "Big toon" or "toon." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 10 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' In which case the last was [[Where's The Cheat?]] in February 25, 2002. However there have been so few "Big Toons" that my previous comment about the sample space being too small to be interesting still holds. I stick by my decline. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If a toon doesn't have an egg, it doesn't have an egg. People are smart enough to figure that out if there aren't any listed on the Toon's wiki entry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*GUYS! He means BIG toon! And He's Right! But he needs to REwrite it! '''ACCEPT BUT REWRITE FIRST!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' My only question is: what is "fun" about this fact? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Absolutly nothing. Its just another example of Wiki members thinking we need to document every last worthless detail. And while I appreciate rewrites, they're a pain when you have to keep changing whats being rewritten as parts of the fact are picked apart.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite.''' As others have said before, it should be noted that this is the first ''Big'' Toon to contain no Easter eggs in over three years. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:21, 11 May 2005
*'''Neutral''' While I noticed this too, I also noticed that this is the only Big Cartoon that has no credits of any kind either. Makes an interesting remark on its own, but I don't know... --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 02:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*O.K...I made up my mind: '''Decline'''. Look people, you could also say that this is the first cartoon to feature Homestar naked in a long time, but would that make it any more "fun"? I think not. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Going back to the last toon thing...actually, the last long toon was [[Shopping for Danger]], if you want to talk most recently. The last toon featuring the H*R universe was [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]], last year. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** Not exactly - Shopping for Danger DID have an Easter Egg, and SBIIJ had extra scenes after "THE END" (some people count those as Easter Eggs, even though they're not listed as such in our articles). Not as though I'm defending this fact or anything, just trying to keep out own facts straight. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' We can't start keeping track of this kinda thing... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I'd cut out "first in years" and replace it with something like: "a rarity to have no easter eggs." -Walking Armless
**(Not a vote.) Exactly.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:42, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.
:''NOTE: We're voting on the CGNU portion, not the tiny portion.''
*<strike>'''Neutral''' The wording is very very poor, but I'll leave it to the vote. Y'no, if anyone cares about this page any more. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)</strike> Know what? I'm changing to '''Decline''' because, truth is, we really DON'T know that he's a CGNU graduate, and we don't really need the speculation. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*Bubs attends night classes at Disco Tech according to the [[Homestar Quiz]]. Perhaps they had a VCR repair course? Or maybe Bubs is just an unethical quack who tapes clocks to broken VCRs. It's possible that he went to CGNU, but since we don't know, I give it a '''Decline'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''So weak that its creepy decline''' GEEEEEEZZZZ OH PEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ! YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TOO HARD!! Oh yeah and the post above mine, I agree with that so I guess this is kind of a '''second,''' too. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' Ohhhh, people with way too much, time on their hands, doo doo doo! [[User:DancingRobots| DancingRobots]]
*So because among Bubs's fake (I assume) buisness cards, there is one that says "Dr" Bubs, we assume he probably has a doctorate in something? He didn't just make it up and shove it on a card? Bubs Normal Investigator is also apparantly not affiliated with Bubs Paranormal Investigator, does that mean we should make a fun fact that Bubs must have multiple personalities, or there are several Bubs's or something? Of course not. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''. You see, the joke is, in the e-mail [[CGNU]], Strong Bad is offering classes in TV/VCR Repair. Bubs could have gotten his certificate. Obviously the paranormal/normal investigator is an independant joke, not relevant here. I think the idea of Bubs attending a Strong Bad class is funny enough to keep it. And to those that say he didnt neccesarily go to CGNU, I ask you this: What other school in the H*R universe has TV/VCR Repair classes? He MUST have gone to CGNU, because it is the only school. I rest my case. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 01:25, 13 May 2005
** Right. We know that. But we KNOW that Bubs tried to repair a VCR in [[12:00]]. We DON'T know that Bubs is a CGNU graduate. Without this knowledge, this is nothing more than speculation about a common use of a couple of common words. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Exactly how "Common" is "TV/VCR Repair"? I havent used that phrase in real life, ever. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** So you've NEVER seen an infomercial? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** ''(on the edit)'' We can't answer the "which school" because the only one we know about is CGNU - but that doesn't mean it's the only school! And we don't know Bubs went to ANY school for VCR repair. And just because you think it's funny, that's no reason to keep it in and of itself. And, BTW, was it necessary to change the title of this fact (formerly "See Gee In Bubs")? Yours makes it look too similar to vvv that one. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**It seems to me that the CGNU thing and Bubs' business cards both refer to the same real-life observation -- a lot of ads for sketchy correspondance schools prominently advertise "TV/VCR Repair" as a "major". So this is not referencing CGNU, it's just referencing a general occurrence. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:22, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*What does "See Gee In Bubs" mean anyway??? I don't get it. "Dr. Bubs" makes it clear that we are questioning his Dr. Bubs business card. "See Gee In Bubs"... doesnt mean anything to me. Please explain. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**[[mascot|See Gee In You]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**OHHH Now I get it. I was reading it too literally. Well, change it back if you want. Its a wiki. Maybe make it "CNG - bUbs" --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 03:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.
*So weak a connection. I thought I would '''Decline''' it! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*I '''accept''' it, certainly. [[User:Cookiecaper|Cookiecaper]] 23:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dr. Decline''' And why? There's no connection except the word "Doctor" and Bubs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 23:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Shut up kid!''' Nah, Homestar is just being silly. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Upon further consideration, this reference is awfully weak. [[User:SilverSurfer|SilverSurfer]]
*'''Decline''' Everything is a reference to everything these days, eh? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24 10 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Even if it's not an intentional reference, it's a good catch! - Dingell
** Uh... if it's not intentional then it's not a reference. And, as thus, the "fact" is not. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I shoulda '''declined''' this like a million years ago! [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* I was the person who wrote this fun fact. It was what I thought of when I saw the toon, but I understand that the connection is quite weak. Actually, I'm a little surprised no one said anything about the "could be" in there. Anyway, since most of you feel the same way, I cheerfully withdraw the fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could be's aren't usually good anyway. I'm gonna say no and hit it with a little '''uh digga digga digga digga digga digga digga DECLINED!''' -- SBEmail22
**'''Second''' -[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".
*'''Decline''' This is another case of thinking a similar joke on the same phenomenon is the origin of the joke itself. "My stories" is simply how some people refer to the soap operas they watch. Heck, George Carlin makes reference to that in an album from the '70s, and that's not the origin either -- it's just that sweet English language in action again. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 12:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deliciously Declined''' And I'm glad someone saw fit to remove the "fact" stating the stories gag was a Simpsons reference. C'mon folks, not every little detail in the HR universe is derived from something else. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding those above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When someone refers to a TV show as a story, they're talking about a soap opera. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:41 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 20:18, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delteated!''' STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING again, ain't we? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you were to mention all the things this [http://www.google.com/search?q=grandma+%22watching+her+stories%22 could have come from] then we'd get a TTATOT. And while finding out what the origin of this phrase was would be good, it's probably not going to happen, and it's almost certainly not this. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's just a common saying among grandmas, like "gar-bazhe" among moms. My grandma is always referring to TV shows as "stories" - Dingell
*MAY BE != IS. '''DECLINE''' *exhales* [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED. [[User: James Craven|James Craven]]

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

*'''Accept''', If 'likely' is changed to 'possibly'. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** They're still forms of the phrase "may be". '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*Or it could be Masterpiece Theater. Who knows... who cares? Too much speculation. '''Decline, old boy''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Good thinkin there. -- Dingell
*Naaaahhhhh '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment''' If I remember correctly, I think [[The Announcer]] has a British accent. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:06, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Nothing more than speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Dacline.''' I see wut you're saying, but the Caleb Rentpayer sounds more of a soap then something Public Television would view (although EVERYTHING is technically "public television" I am referring to channels like PBS, as I think SB was). I think the show SB is talking about was probably a documentary hosted by a british guy (which PBS is chock-full of.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' We're not talking about Caleb Rentpayer, we're talking about the show Strong SAD is watching... [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:08, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' Actually a very good catch. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline''' though that show was hosted by a British guy there are a lot of real life PBS shows hosted by British people, like almost every NOVA episode ever made [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination.''' No connection. Next! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:01, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:03, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''You're missing the point!!''' We already know that it's based on G.I. Joe! The whole point is that Matt is imitating the voice of Cobra Commander, but not his voice actor. Accepting this fact is like saying "If you imitate the voice of Homestar, then you are imitating/referencing/making-fun-of Matt Chapman because he is the voice actor." If three other people add to my '''Decline''', we can get The Eggman to close this fact and put it out of its misery. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 14:44, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
(UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Definitely a ''Diff'rent Strokes'' reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' TBC does like to be silly with their names, such as their Bill Bellamy schoolbell. While the bell is a specific reference, I'm sure any name with "bell" would have worked. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
====Peacy Prize====
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bushes====
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[privileges]]===
====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

'''Complete Instant Decline''' type of instant noodles.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Emails====
How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
*'''Decline''' Number A, facts are statements, questions are... questions. And secondly, maybe Strong Bad told it somehow (it WAS there for [[50 emails]])? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[unused emails]]===
====CDs====
This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.
==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

*By the way, I really hate people who put in facts that are: 1)Obvious, and 2) aren't FUN facts. I '''Reject, Decline, and want to delete''' this.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 04:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[Senorial Day]]===
====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")
*'''Accept''' I like it but I know some people here probably won't. Bonus points if you know where the title of this fact came from! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I hear they're looking for a few good users over to the Kim Possible Wiki. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny, and it's true. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If not as a fun fact, then at least as a "Remark". -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**Er, a Remark ''is'' a Fun Fact... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Vera Weak Decline.''' Interesting, but ... nah. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted!''' Congrats, you got yourself an interesting fun fact! Funny and true! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept as a remark.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak accept''' its interesting...but is it really noteworthy? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of an sales event called "Toyotathon".
*'''Accept.''' Toy-otathon. Bubs-otathon. Can't think of any other "-otathons". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This is a clear "Real-World" reference. The suffix "otathon" is totally complete here. It's not too obvious for a fun fact, is it? It wasn't immediately clear to me. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**'''Second.''' Huh? Why was this STUFF'd? It's clearly a reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' I STUFF'd it because it was added, then removed, then added... I put it here so it could be definitively added. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondathon''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Now, why was this STUFF'd? While it may be obvious, like tomstiff said, no other -otathons. '''Accept-otathon-erson.''' (damn, my first -erson joke.)--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:21, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's the only other use of the "otathon" suffix of which I've heard. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' What else would it be? Of course it is. ^_^[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:42, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yep -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Sad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

*'''Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out.''' I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It tastes like a #1 DECLINE!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*It's obvious, but '''DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. [[User: GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept''' Why the heck not? by the way, are you feelin' alrite cheetachu72? you seem a little out of it.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*No *sigh* I'm okay. Just have mood swings now and then. WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUT OF IT?!? RRRRRRRRRRRRR! {gets hit by tranquilizer darts} uuuuuuuuuuu, {smack head against keyboard} [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I really don't see what's wrong with this fun fact. It's true the time capsule looks like the Isle of Pom. Plus, fans wouldn't be able to tell unless they go to the museum, which I myself didn't bother looking at until I was a hardcore fan. Yes, a capsule is a common shape, but I haven't seen it on the website too much, which makes it stand out a little. So '''Accept'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!!''' Who cares! And Stinkoman looks like Strong Bad! -Kinsey

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be '''revised''' because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the well-known Japanese series
Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It was revamped for '90s North America, and had many
episodes cut out, including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:59, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mail's authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*We are the Knights who say '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''A nice and non-hurtful decline''' I just say let this one rest, and cease and desist arguing over such silly things. Silly silly silly I say -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, but Decline.''' Once again, this is stretching it big time. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:19 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''DECLINING...''' Until I e-mail the Brothers Chaps if they watch Monty Python. Which probably they will. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Burninating crappy Fun Facts, AND THEIR STRETCHABILITY! STRETCHABILITY!''' I'll just call over my friends, non-Stan and Lorreta, since obviously, there are no other Stans and Lorretas in the world, to see what they think of this. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I have actually seen the movie unlike at least one person on this page. It seems to be more or less correct. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' There are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-53,GGLD:en&q=%22Stan+and+Loretta%22&spell=1 real couples] out there named Stan and Loretta—too many for us to look at this as more than a coincidence without anything else to go on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**Notice how HRWIKI comes up first?
***'''comment''' You know, there are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22mike+and+matt%22&btnG=Search people] named "mike and matt" as well...but if you see a cartoon with those names in it, you bet your britches its a reference to TBC, right?
****Um, actually, no. Not automatically. Not without something else to tie it in. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.
*Major '''Decline'''. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 2:55 PM EDT 05/27/05.
*'''Decline.''' Even if the senders DID have MP in mind, it's not at all relevant. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
<s>*'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. </s> Actually, '''Rewrite.''' After thinking about it, there ''is'' a slight similarity, (Hence the fact that Homestar was drinking a lot more Melonade than he should and ended up having to use the bathroom), but it's really no reference. It just basically tells you that Homestar has a problem with over-drinking. Reword it not as a reference, but as a character trait. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:28 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Gotcha, and I stand by my decline -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' Now that Jay has cleared it up, I know what was meant by the above Fun Fact. It just needs to be reworded in a way that makes sense. (I.e. Homestar drinking several glasses of melonade may be a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].) Though we're never actually told in The Luau that Homestar urinated on all the logs that Strong Bad tried to light, it is obvious if you pay close attention. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:30, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' There's not enough for a reference. That's like saying that The poopsmith shovels crap is a reference to another time he shoveled crap.[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) (This would be a decline, but I've already voted)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
****ok thanks Jay--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' You never know what people don't know. I'm not sure if "half-and-half" is an Americanism, but if it is, a simple explanation like the one above would be useful for viewers from Foreign Lands. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm on a Declining Rampage!''' And did you know that Mountain Dew is a popular soda with spinoffs like Code Red and High Voltage?! ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:27, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
**Nope. Well, I knew it was a soda, but not the other stuff. (In short: bad example) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:57, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' Not that obvious. Not that interesting, either, but still not that obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment to thespludge''' What is high voltage? Are you referring to Livewire? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:57, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].
*''Moved in here because it's a 'might be'.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, i'm sorry. The correct answer, was Declined.''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I'm not that worked-up about this one. He would probably have typed Raffi if he meant to refer to Raffi. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:53, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''decline''' Don't like the "might be" (never do) but this one at least is plausible. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*"Might be" and "obscure" don't work for me, sorry. Although it has a small likeliness, I doubt it. '''Decline.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Accept''' because seriously I gotta accept ''one'' of these things, right? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:19, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dee-clined.''' Doesn't seem like any sort of referance to Raffi. It seems like too big of a stretch. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:55 AM, 21 May 2005
*Accept! Of course! Why not? --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 00:29, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.
*''Moved in here because it's a 'might be'.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete crappy facts outright! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I speculate that this fun fact might be declined...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' though there was a roller coaster like that in Wildwood there are other 'circle coasters' out there [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' No no no. There are rides like this all over. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - Strikes me as speculation and that usually doesn't make a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:02, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Freaky D'clined''' - Nope. Sorry. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:02 AM, May 21, 2005

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

*'''Decleated! I mean, Da Cheated! I mean Del Taco!''' Actually, I've ridden on a roller coaster type thing (called "The Loop") in which the only track was a circle (Shaped like this > '''O'''). But, we unfortunately ''didn't'' catch fire. *Sigh.* [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*Decline I saw on once called the ring of fire. No one passed out. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Second: Revise, Decline...oVG2?:''' Talk to my man with the isometric formula and the Roller Coaster Tycoon! (Yes, Shockwave, a coaster in one of them Six Flaggie parks, has TWO loops.) -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:01, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Though most loops nowadays are tear-shaped, there are some roller coasters with circular loops. The intensity of the ride boasts a more thrilling coaster. The only real concern with circular loops is that there's a greater chance of riders falling out at the top, but that can be avoided if proper safety measures are taken. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:26, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' These exist, I think. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' I've been on roller coasters like that so they ''do'' exist. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' I first rode on a looping rolly-coaster in 1977. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declone''' If the info is wrong, then the fact isn't a fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll decline YOUR fun fact, my lord!''' I've been waiting all day to use that one. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:49, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline.''' Need I say more? [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

*This is a generic sentence that I've heard plenty of times outside Weezer songs - I've left it on do over in case, though.
*Uh, no. No it's not. Turn off geekdar. It's haywire. '''Dolores!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:27, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' are we seriously voting for this? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE''' It's things like THIS that we need to purge STUFF from. Someone had reentered this "fun fact," and I didn't know it was in STUFF. But it looked so stupid, I just deleted it on the spot. That's what should have been done here. C'mon people, while some facts are good to STUFF, like the "Family Guy" one below, others are better off disappearing. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 12:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is only interesting in that the author attempted to atttribute the reference to a band other than TMBG! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Holy crap, no''' That's a very common phrase. Get this so-called fun fact out of my SIGHT. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:03, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondated!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is absurd.''' This is ''not'' how STUFF was meant to work. This page is for those facts that fall in that gray area of "maybe good, maybe not." It's not for ''this'' kind of nonsense. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Um, I dunno what that MEANS! And you're still DECLINED!''' *cough* yup. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, it's not. (declined)''' 21:58 17 May 2005
*'''Yeah, shut up kid kthx''' Keep crap off kthx. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:11, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Are you some sort of Declined Brew?''' Absurd loose music reference. No. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:33, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*Common pharse '''Declined''' [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''DEE-CLAAAANE!'''What?! Are you kidding? Everybody knows "Falling for you" is just a common phrase. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's a common phrase. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' 'Nuff said. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline!''' What everyone else said. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:58 AM, 21 May 2005
*This one doesn't even deserve my vote. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:59, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.
*THIS was in the remarks it seams useless to me don't change it is in the remarks on the page for DO OVER allred this is just caliging it
*'''Decline''' First, sign your posts. Second, although I do think this is mildly interesting, it is not enough to really merit a fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline The angle and force at which the drum is struck can affect it somewhat as well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' Homestar has no arms invisible or otherwise. Quit saying that he does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:35, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because your geekdar's broken. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''revise''' eliminate the second sentence completely. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Decline''' as it is false. If you hit the centre of a drum it gives a low pitch, but hitting the edge of a drum gives a higher pitch. Plus things like how hard you hit the drum, as mentioned above. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 11:38, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Seriously, have you nothing better to do than speculate as to how percussion works for people whose arms actully aren't there? Get a life.
*'''Second Fizz's Post.''' And I'm sure if it was eliminated in the first place, most of the people who have said "Dacline" would have probably voted "Accept." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:20, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not me. '''Decline''' [[user: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 22:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCORPTED!!!'''Some revision wouldn't hurt but it's pretty good as is.[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' - [http://darthno.ytmnd.com/ Darth Vader summarizes my feelings]; just doesn't seem that noteworthy. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

VERDICT: After just over two weeks of voting, this fact was Accepted with 16 valid accept votes and 8 valid declines. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

*'''Decline''' And computer keyboards are useless to people with boxing gloves for hands. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline'''. So? Also, how is a laser gun useless to someone with no hands? I don't see a trigger on it or anything, it could be linked directly into his nerves... Just point and think. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Apparently you've never heard of megaman. :)
*'''Decline, and I hate you get out''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and fun facts are useless unless they are "fun" or even "interesting" --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' When you have nothing nice to say about a fun fact ... -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' pointless, useless and I think this qualifies as an opinion instead of a fact. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Witty H*R-related phrase involving the word 'Second'''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:42, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
***Who gives a holy crap? Why wasn't this just DELETED? '''DECLINE!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:17, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh really? I thought most people played the guitar with their faces! Hah, how silly of m-DELETED!! 220317May
**Jimi Hendrix did... --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:13, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' "I DON'T WANT TO EAT A GUITAR!" "You're not eating it... you're shredding some hot licks... with your teeth." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:54, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's true, and, yeah, I hadn't thought of that, but it's kinda "eh."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:25, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, and I hate you too''' - Enough said. Really. This hardly qualifies as a usable fact, for god's sake. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:49 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Revise, Accept'd''' Say something more like:
<pre>Stong Bad wanted to have a lazor gun and a guitar for hands but there is no way he could play
the guitar or fire the gun without hands.</pre> --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Even then I think this fact is sort of pointless. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:55, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declorn'd!''' I think someone ELSE could play guitar, like coach z or something. Since your hand is a lazor gun, you can fire it yourself! I mean, the lazor gun WOULD be part of you. It's exactly like saying your hands have no use! --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:02, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*This actually was interesting, I dont think any of you realized that you can't play guitar with a lazor gun, ya know? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:25, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

*'''All is Off...Decline it Decline It!''' I'm sorry. I just don't see any connection whatsoever except for the fact that they both are music. If someone can see any resemblance, I'll change my vote. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
**'''SECOND'D'D'D'D'D'''--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' because you contradict yourself in your very next sentence. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a generic parody of crappy compilation CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*erm...no. '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' No sir, I don't like it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yo declino''' For the reasons stated above [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' How? Just because the rest of the email involves children? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 20:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second:''' Never thought of anything else when I saw the CD. Never even thought of Kidz Bop. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Remove the part about the CD-spine. That's random, lame, and belongs somewhere else.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Decline''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declinedified!''' It was only made for the name of the email person, All-is-on! It was just a coincidence. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Technocomment, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh...''' Even if this fact was accepted (which it probably won't be), you're saying two different ffffffffff *gag* fuuuuuuuu *sputter* fu-hun facts (hard to call it a FUN fact) [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:36, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

*'''Decline.''' We have the Appearances section on pages for items, characters, etc. to give information like this. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Besides, its not like the Pom Pilot is a item that appears in most cartoons, so I wouldn't think it would be that interesting anyway --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Yeah, I'd have to agree with this.... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because... ehh... because. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Already listed elsewhere. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' So, how else are you supposed to hang a link to the Pom Pilot in the article? I don't think we're supposed to put links in the transcript. The only other time that the Pom Pilot is mentioned is in Goofs. I guess you could put it there, but I don't really like that. Maybe we need a Props listing under the Cast listing (just an idea). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:06, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 04:58, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

*'''Must...deny...funfact!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>Revise The evidence shown is convincing, but it may still be a coincidence. If you can show a little more I'll accept.</strike>Since you failed to revise, Decline--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' The fact that this one actually contains the phrases "this '''may be''' and '''stretch'''ing things" should disqualify it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*<strike>Comment It still might be true. The "emerson" and "tark" things are convincing, he just needs to add a little more proof.</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*4 letters out of 26 can't convince me.[[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::*<strike>Hence why I said he needs more proof</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
:*And somehow I'm still not seeing it. Besides, he probably called him Emerson because adding "erson" onto someone's name is a HR running gag. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*According to this --> [[Names ending in -erson]] you are correct, <strike>it still could be a double gag though. However, I'm not accepting it yet anyway. As I said, he needs to give more proof. </strike>--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*'''Comment''' Although that is true, it was not a running gag at the time because this is the first appearance of it.
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes an -erson joke is just an -erson joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinexord''' Emerson is also a company that makes sinks and dishwashers, not to mention that Emerson is a real last name. Who knows where they were going? And who cares? -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

*No... it really doesn't. It's a joke. '''3-Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 04:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**Agreed. '''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Really?! I never got it till now! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declinerween, Declinerween, You're 55 million light years from Accepterween!''' (in sarcastic voice) I'm absolutely stunned. I never noticed this! Whoever posted this fun fact should be like, a professor at like Harvard, or CGNU, man! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline''' - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' ..........What? [[User:The_Pardack|The_pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' <shatner> I... dontunderstand. </shatner> --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline with an iron fist.''' That doesn't even make sense. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:30, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a bronze fist.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I can't tell who's really being sarcastic and who's not, I think it's obvious if you just think about it for all of three seconds. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 06:26, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You! Obey the Decline Fist!''' Or at least Rewrite so I know what you're talking about. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:53 AM 21 May 2005

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

*'''Weak Accept''' I'm not sure if this is really worth pointing out but hey... it's true. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline''' True, but pointless. These should be ''fun'' facts, right? [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' The same could be said for the ending of Rock Opera. Remember, they're supposed to be "Fun facts" not "lets nit pick every little detail facts". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Accept This would make a good remark, yes. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Just as long as it's listed as a Fun Fact and not a Goof, I find it okay. It's not a Goof simply because he could be lip syncing and not really making any vocal sound. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, he's there. No, he's not singing. Yes, this phone is plugged in. We can tell that he's not singing by looking at him. Not fun in the least. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declome.''' Everyone's there, whether they want to sing or not. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch, GmbH|S-B, GmbH]]
*'''Decline''' And he isn't singing so... there isn't a problem... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''!d'enilceD''' Yeah, a lot of those people weren't even singing.
* And what about Pom Pom? All he can do is burble. Its just not worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This goes without saying. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral.''' Both sides make some pretty good points. -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:43, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Yeah, that's a good fact. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It actually mimics that homestar theme song much more closely, just listen to what homestar is saying. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I'd really like to know why people have such a problem with this fact. It's true... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' It's not that it's wrong, it's just not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' No, he was running so fast that you couldn't see it. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' I noticed this too, but never thought to add it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Sorcended!!! I mean, second'd'''--[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Second''' Running so fast you couldn't see it my eye! --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''(Almost) Accept''' The aid of flashbooklets helps on this one. But I'm not really sure if it needs to be noted. To be honest, I checked for the bug before I read this, so it might be valid. --[[User:weirdguy|weirdguy]]
*'''Accept'''. I noticed this, and thought it was funny... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:13, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' So?? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 16:12, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's true. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:33, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*The pessemist that I am I attempted to discover exactly how and why this fact was false. I watched it several times over and tried to come up with some rationale for how the bug does not show up. In the end though I have to say that this is true, and it is interesting enough to stay '''Accept'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:58, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That's why he said "I DID swallow a bug" at the end, I think.
*'''Insert Homestar-related Accept pun here.''' I noticed this too. --[[user:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:03, 24 May 2005
*'''No!'''No, you people are SO technical! Think of what a normal person just watching the toon would see! He's running fast, everything around him is a blur, so you wouldn't notice it! Of course they didn't use one, but they don't have to there. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.
*'''Accept.''' We have links to IHOP. Why not Dairy Queen? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:35, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Also links to Sonic, Winn-Dixie, Hardee's, Sbarro, Del Taco, Chick-fil-A, and Big Boy. I'm sure there are more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' You'd be surprised what some people don't know. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' sure, why not? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:47, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' DQ is no McDonald's or Subway, (there's only one in my town!) and you have to admit it's an interesting nickname. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This fact is fine, particularly because I'm not sure all parts of the country (not to mention other countries) have Dairy Queens. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:14, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Good with me. Continue, brave Fun Facter! -Walking Armless
*'''Cool Cool (aka accept)''' I WENT TO DQ YESTERDAY!!! --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'Tis True Pom Pom, 'Tis True, so '''Accept!''' -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:51 PM, 21 May 2005
*Could we possibly have a unanimous '''Accept''' on our hands? --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:55, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah...that's a first.
*'''Accept''' I guess if people accepted my half and half one, I should accept this one. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 22:46, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oy vey, people! Like I said before, not all of these need to be STUFF'D! --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:54, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment
*Trogga's pushing it again. '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Sure, why not, if it's true. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline''' A very common phrase that's a tad too obvious. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't know it. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:32, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Most poeple should know what a quack is... and if you don't i'm sorry --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:52, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept'''. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Weak Decline''' It's true, but it's common knowlage--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Accept''' Doc Zamboni's Egustorative Snake Oil Elixir Extract, and the ladies will be all-up-ons! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:59, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).

{{User:Gafaddict/STUFF verdict| verdict = declined| decline votes = 10| accept votes = 6| fun fact location = Bug in Mouth Disease}}

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".
*As the writer, I '''Accept''' it, but I put it here because I'm not sure if it's enough for a fun fact. I think the grammatical use of "whom" isn't exactly widely known, but some people might disagree. Also I'm not sure if it should go in Remarks or Explinations. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I know, I know, it's just a joke. I know, I know, not every joke requires an explanation. But speaking as a devoted silly fact slayer, I think this is worth a mention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Definetly depends on what section this is meant to go in. I would say remarks. '''Accept'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second. Which means accept. :P'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Few people know the rules of "who" and "whom" but it's still a grammatical error and therefore I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah its worth being there, though you might consider adding the fact that Strong Bad is famous for his anal-retentive attitudes on grammar yet he does not react to this common mistake. '''Accept''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is true and worthy of note...DELETED. That's what you thought I would say, right? Well, too bad. '''Accept''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I'm pretty sure TBC were under the impression that we should already know this, as that's the joke. No need for fun factization, it's pretty obvious. (to me at least)
** While most will realize that its wrong, they may not get WHY its wrong. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This may or may not have been intentional, and the fact that it's grammatically incorrect is obvious. No need state the obvious. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
**So if I walk up to the average guy on the street and ask "When should you gramatically use 'whom' rather than 'who' in a question?" he'd be able to tell me? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:30, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
***I would think so, yes. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
****Not everyone has the grasp of the English language that you do. In fact, the MAJORITY of people don't. :P [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I never noticed this. And the fact that Strong Bad did not criticize it makes it fun enough to be a fact. [[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 01:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined.''' This is a FUN fact? Maybe for an englilsh teacher, but not for me. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*''Accept/Comment'' Actually, it's quite the oppisite. An english teacher would think it's common sense.
*'''Accept''' It's true, and a lot of people don't understand when to use who vs. whom. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:16, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Too obvious, more than likely deliberate, and not all that "fun" in any case. -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.
''Due to ballot stuffing, the entire vote will be restarted. All votes except Jay's (since this is Jay clearing everything) have been deleted, so we're starting with a fresh entry.''
*'''"I'm-a gonna accept."''' This is a good fact, or at least I think so. It should say something about a paniced scream about getting hurt, usually capatilized when they say it a 2nd time.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 18:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is becoming something of an edit war, and the poster who added it won't STOP adding it, so I'm putting it to the vote. Vote away, people. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*I stick by my '''Accept''' [[User talk:greg2point0|greg2point0]]
*<strike>'''Accept''' Just once this time =P [[User talk:Hawk-Eye-100|Hawk-Eye-100]] 3:49</strike> ''(This is the same user as the above vote. Check the History.)''
** {smack} That was the sound of my head hitting the keyboard. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* Jay, why are we even voting on this if its just the one guy who thinks it should be accepted? His cheating should've dis-qualified this fact from the get go. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
** To make a point, I suppose. He WASN'T STOPPING. He was even editing my "don't add this" note. I'm trying to take the higher ground here. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mere coincidence. And breaking the rules isn't cool. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:16 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Also comment that just because someone tried to cheat the vote doesn't mean the fact itself should be scrapped immediately, in my opinion. It should wait the two weeks from when the vote was restarted and considered unanimously declined (unless someone other than this cheater gives an accept vote of course). --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 11:47, 11 May 2005
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' IMHO, the '''four''' user names and ''two'' IP addresses involved in this incident should be banned permanently. This Wiki looks the way it does because the vast majority of the community follows the rules, both written and implied. Those who don't shouid not be welcome here (again IMHO). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and permaban the IP's. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meh, accept.'''(Upgraded vote: '''Meh, Very weak accpet.''') This guy's awfully devoted to getting his fact up, and it ''Italic text''is''Italic text'' true. Heck, I didn't even realize it until I read this. Anything that does so should work as a fun fact, no? So I don't see what's wrong with it but I think this should be in "remarks." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Sigh...TK, one guy does all the voices for the characters (Powered by The Cheat, Marzipan, and Teeg Dougland aside). Of course every once in awhile there is going to be similiar sounding dialouge. And just because a fact is true, doesn't make it fun. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
***Right. We could say "this is the first 'toon where Strong Bad tapes his head to the TV," and we wouldn't be wrong, but who cares? Anyway, I doubt that there's any real connection between these - they sound kinda similar, but that's it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Yeah, I guess...I'm going to demote my vote to '''Meh, very weak accept.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:39, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>I agree, it should go in "remarks". So '''Second'''. [[User:Supyall|Supyall]]</strike> ''(What is your deal? You can only vote once!)''
***Hmmmm. Where have I seen this user name before? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*We gave him repeated warnings and he's still breaking the rules. I say ban him. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Three-day suspension as of now. If he does it again it'll be indefinite. We warned him multiple times. Does he think we're stupid or something? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' - Dingell
*Whoever keeps putting this up, FYAD. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Dare I ask what that stands for? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*** ...you and die ;) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Oh. You learn something new every day, I guess... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Despite the chaox of this... Voting process, I say '''Accept'''. Could be a refferance...''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* As another mighty fun fact slayer said: Could be's are not cool. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll Accept your FACE!!''' to a bloody...pulp... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Not that it really matters, but is this an accept or decline?
*No no no no no! VERY small liason. VERY unlikely to be reference. VERY declined. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I wasn't going to step in, but considering the surprizing number of accept votes, I have to. This is coincidence people, nothing more. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:34, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even if they're a bit similar, it's nothing worth noting. -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.
*'''Now ''this'' fact is totally worth my time and consideration DECLINED!!''' Very, very different type of "one" being referred to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Seconded -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
***'''Seconded.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*Oh, for the love of...it's a ''word'' people! We're not here to keep taps on every time a character says something twice! '''Decline'''[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second'd!!!'''What he said--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Bupkis'd''' Ummm ... decline! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*If there were ever a candidate to be immediately '''Deleted''' (skipping the STUFF process), this is it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''And once again so as to make me sound like a broken record: Not everything is meant to refer to something else.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second this "one".''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What!? No! No!! No!!! I mean, no! Never! No! What? No!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and STFU. (I'm in a bad mood today, deal with it.) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
* Decline. No. Just--just no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:21, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Definitely the wrong kind of ones. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''EXTREMELY STRONG DECLINE''' no not at all. I'm right, your wrong
*'''Well, there's more than one One.... Declined...''' No->No->No. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 04:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE³''' This is the biggest stretch EVER! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''De-freakin'-cline''' What made you think that??? -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:45 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''Down with Declined...ding.''' There's no real correlation here, as everyone else pretty much said. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:46, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.
*'''Decline as written''' Is it? I'm not sure. But "in years" is unprofessional. If you can provide an actual time span - and be accurate - then maybe you've got something here... if said time span is impressive enough. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I put on my detective hat and had a look. The last eggless toon was [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], a month and a half ago. Before that was the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] 3 months ago. [[Under Construction]] and most of the [[Puppet Stuff]] is eggless. If it is rewritten "The first cartoon (except April Fools features and live action) ..." then the last was [[Ballad of The Sneak]], 10 and a half months ago. Discounting music videos too, the latest was [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], 13 months ago. '''In summary''' - as written it is false, and rewriting to make it even one year ago requires too many caveats to be interesting. '''Decline'''. Incidentally, the last eggless email was [[property of ones]], and I put that in its Trivia section. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**All right, that settles that. '''Second''' and this "fact" may as well be closed now. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Okay,''' how about "This cartoon contains no Easter eggs"? Or, better, put the Easter egg section up with "(none)" listed under it. That way, people don't have to wonder whether there were eggs but we somehow forgot to list them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
** '''Not necessary''' We don't do that for any OTHER egg-less toon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Why not?''' It would make them all more complete. Where's the harm? Besides, since people ''expect'' the eggs, it's news when there are none. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Possibly:
<pre> Unlike most recent cartoons featuring the Freecounty, USA characters,
this one contains no easter eggs. </pre> -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:56 May 10, 2005
*'''ATTENTION POSTERS ALL!!''' I think what the post-er was trying to say was that it was the first ''Big Toon'' in whatever years, so this needs a '''rewrite''', changing "cartoon" to "Big toon" or "toon." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 10 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' In which case the last was [[Where's The Cheat?]] in February 25, 2002. However there have been so few "Big Toons" that my previous comment about the sample space being too small to be interesting still holds. I stick by my decline. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If a toon doesn't have an egg, it doesn't have an egg. People are smart enough to figure that out if there aren't any listed on the Toon's wiki entry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*GUYS! He means BIG toon! And He's Right! But he needs to REwrite it! '''ACCEPT BUT REWRITE FIRST!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' My only question is: what is "fun" about this fact? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Absolutly nothing. Its just another example of Wiki members thinking we need to document every last worthless detail. And while I appreciate rewrites, they're a pain when you have to keep changing whats being rewritten as parts of the fact are picked apart.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite.''' As others have said before, it should be noted that this is the first ''Big'' Toon to contain no Easter eggs in over three years. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:21, 11 May 2005
*'''Neutral''' While I noticed this too, I also noticed that this is the only Big Cartoon that has no credits of any kind either. Makes an interesting remark on its own, but I don't know... --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 02:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*O.K...I made up my mind: '''Decline'''. Look people, you could also say that this is the first cartoon to feature Homestar naked in a long time, but would that make it any more "fun"? I think not. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Going back to the last toon thing...actually, the last long toon was [[Shopping for Danger]], if you want to talk most recently. The last toon featuring the H*R universe was [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]], last year. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** Not exactly - Shopping for Danger DID have an Easter Egg, and SBIIJ had extra scenes after "THE END" (some people count those as Easter Eggs, even though they're not listed as such in our articles). Not as though I'm defending this fact or anything, just trying to keep out own facts straight. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' We can't start keeping track of this kinda thing... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I'd cut out "first in years" and replace it with something like: "a rarity to have no easter eggs." -Walking Armless
**(Not a vote.) Exactly.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:42, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.
:''NOTE: We're voting on the CGNU portion, not the tiny portion.''
*<strike>'''Neutral''' The wording is very very poor, but I'll leave it to the vote. Y'no, if anyone cares about this page any more. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)</strike> Know what? I'm changing to '''Decline''' because, truth is, we really DON'T know that he's a CGNU graduate, and we don't really need the speculation. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*Bubs attends night classes at Disco Tech according to the [[Homestar Quiz]]. Perhaps they had a VCR repair course? Or maybe Bubs is just an unethical quack who tapes clocks to broken VCRs. It's possible that he went to CGNU, but since we don't know, I give it a '''Decline'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''So weak that its creepy decline''' GEEEEEEZZZZ OH PEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ! YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TOO HARD!! Oh yeah and the post above mine, I agree with that so I guess this is kind of a '''second,''' too. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' Ohhhh, people with way too much, time on their hands, doo doo doo! [[User:DancingRobots| DancingRobots]]
*So because among Bubs's fake (I assume) buisness cards, there is one that says "Dr" Bubs, we assume he probably has a doctorate in something? He didn't just make it up and shove it on a card? Bubs Normal Investigator is also apparantly not affiliated with Bubs Paranormal Investigator, does that mean we should make a fun fact that Bubs must have multiple personalities, or there are several Bubs's or something? Of course not. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''. You see, the joke is, in the e-mail [[CGNU]], Strong Bad is offering classes in TV/VCR Repair. Bubs could have gotten his certificate. Obviously the paranormal/normal investigator is an independant joke, not relevant here. I think the idea of Bubs attending a Strong Bad class is funny enough to keep it. And to those that say he didnt neccesarily go to CGNU, I ask you this: What other school in the H*R universe has TV/VCR Repair classes? He MUST have gone to CGNU, because it is the only school. I rest my case. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 01:25, 13 May 2005
** Right. We know that. But we KNOW that Bubs tried to repair a VCR in [[12:00]]. We DON'T know that Bubs is a CGNU graduate. Without this knowledge, this is nothing more than speculation about a common use of a couple of common words. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Exactly how "Common" is "TV/VCR Repair"? I havent used that phrase in real life, ever. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** So you've NEVER seen an infomercial? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** ''(on the edit)'' We can't answer the "which school" because the only one we know about is CGNU - but that doesn't mean it's the only school! And we don't know Bubs went to ANY school for VCR repair. And just because you think it's funny, that's no reason to keep it in and of itself. And, BTW, was it necessary to change the title of this fact (formerly "See Gee In Bubs")? Yours makes it look too similar to vvv that one. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**It seems to me that the CGNU thing and Bubs' business cards both refer to the same real-life observation -- a lot of ads for sketchy correspondance schools prominently advertise "TV/VCR Repair" as a "major". So this is not referencing CGNU, it's just referencing a general occurrence. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:22, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*What does "See Gee In Bubs" mean anyway??? I don't get it. "Dr. Bubs" makes it clear that we are questioning his Dr. Bubs business card. "See Gee In Bubs"... doesnt mean anything to me. Please explain. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**[[mascot|See Gee In You]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**OHHH Now I get it. I was reading it too literally. Well, change it back if you want. Its a wiki. Maybe make it "CNG - bUbs" --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 03:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.
*So weak a connection. I thought I would '''Decline''' it! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*I '''accept''' it, certainly. [[User:Cookiecaper|Cookiecaper]] 23:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dr. Decline''' And why? There's no connection except the word "Doctor" and Bubs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 23:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Shut up kid!''' Nah, Homestar is just being silly. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Upon further consideration, this reference is awfully weak. [[User:SilverSurfer|SilverSurfer]]
*'''Decline''' Everything is a reference to everything these days, eh? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24 10 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Even if it's not an intentional reference, it's a good catch! - Dingell
** Uh... if it's not intentional then it's not a reference. And, as thus, the "fact" is not. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I shoulda '''declined''' this like a million years ago! [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* I was the person who wrote this fun fact. It was what I thought of when I saw the toon, but I understand that the connection is quite weak. Actually, I'm a little surprised no one said anything about the "could be" in there. Anyway, since most of you feel the same way, I cheerfully withdraw the fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could be's aren't usually good anyway. I'm gonna say no and hit it with a little '''uh digga digga digga digga digga digga digga DECLINED!''' -- SBEmail22
**'''Second''' -[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".
*'''Decline''' This is another case of thinking a similar joke on the same phenomenon is the origin of the joke itself. "My stories" is simply how some people refer to the soap operas they watch. Heck, George Carlin makes reference to that in an album from the '70s, and that's not the origin either -- it's just that sweet English language in action again. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 12:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deliciously Declined''' And I'm glad someone saw fit to remove the "fact" stating the stories gag was a Simpsons reference. C'mon folks, not every little detail in the HR universe is derived from something else. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding those above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When someone refers to a TV show as a story, they're talking about a soap opera. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:41 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 20:18, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delteated!''' STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING again, ain't we? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you were to mention all the things this [http://www.google.com/search?q=grandma+%22watching+her+stories%22 could have come from] then we'd get a TTATOT. And while finding out what the origin of this phrase was would be good, it's probably not going to happen, and it's almost certainly not this. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's just a common saying among grandmas, like "gar-bazhe" among moms. My grandma is always referring to TV shows as "stories" - Dingell
*MAY BE != IS. '''DECLINE''' *exhales* [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED. [[User: James Craven|James Craven]]

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

*'''Accept''', If 'likely' is changed to 'possibly'. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** They're still forms of the phrase "may be". '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*Or it could be Masterpiece Theater. Who knows... who cares? Too much speculation. '''Decline, old boy''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Good thinkin there. -- Dingell
*Naaaahhhhh '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment''' If I remember correctly, I think [[The Announcer]] has a British accent. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:06, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Nothing more than speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Dacline.''' I see wut you're saying, but the Caleb Rentpayer sounds more of a soap then something Public Television would view (although EVERYTHING is technically "public television" I am referring to channels like PBS, as I think SB was). I think the show SB is talking about was probably a documentary hosted by a british guy (which PBS is chock-full of.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' We're not talking about Caleb Rentpayer, we're talking about the show Strong SAD is watching... [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:08, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' Actually a very good catch. -Walking Armless

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination.''' No connection. Next! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

*'''Decline''' Why oh why someone thought this was trivia boggles the mind. There is nothing to this "fact". She raised an eyebrow, whoopdie do. Trivia implies that someone will actually find the information interesting, nobody cares about facial expressions unless it somehow reveals something about the character (in the case of Strong Bad, it'd show that he actually has eyebrows). This just encourages the posting of worthless facts. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Then again, have we ever seen Marzipan have eyebrows?
**If you watch her character video and the SB is in Jail Cartoon you can see her eyebrows when she makes her angry face. However, we're talking about a cartoon with characters sans arms and that has a guy with a wrestling mask for a head and boxing gloves for hands. Eyebrows aren't a concern. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' [[some kinda robot|Some kinda robot]] marks the first time we see Strong Bad using a computer. So what? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept''' Lately, TBC seem to be adding new facial expressions to the characters on a regular basis (like SB's sarcastic look in "long pants"). It might be worth it to point them out. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:33, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''accept''' New facial expressions happen once in a while and it's interesting to note when it happens. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Strong Decline''' Why not add 'This is the first time we see Senor Cardage talk to Strong Sad' or 'This is the first time Coach Z buys something from Strong Bad' too? --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 9:30 14 May, 2005
*Accept Sure, why not. It's worth adding. *shrug* [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:25, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Srong Accept'''come one peoples (prenounced 'pee-oe-puhls') this is the first time we have evidence of Marzipan having eyebrows period, up until this she was like my friend Jeff who had no eyebrows--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline.''' When Garfield makes a new expression in that comic strip of his, it's not something I write up in my diary. "Ooo, Garfield made a kind of a smirk, but he was wiggling his ear at the same time! I never saw that before. I wonder what he was thinking?"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:38, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

*'''NO'D!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nay''' [[User:71.110.2.216|71.110.2.216]] 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:08, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. There's nothing more to say. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''hahahaha NO''' Like I said, check your frickin facts! --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]]
**'''SECOND.''' Absolutely not the case![[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:38, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nooo, no no no no. Decline.''' - Nuh uh! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:34 PM, 23 May 2005

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

*'''Accept.''' Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' Garage sales aren't in garages. They're called garage sales because one usually sells the old junk that's been sitting in one's garage. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Utterly useless fun fact. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''--[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 18:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' And I've seen a yard sale in a garage too. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:27, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Garage sale, yard sale, they can be used interchangably. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''. Garage sale is a colloquialism. It doesn't mean that the sale has to happen ''in'' the garage. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' The garage sales I've seen actually take place in garages. I won't be sad though if this fact gets voted down. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' What he said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 04:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:21, May 8 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 9:50, May 12 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this obvious, but also the term "garage sale" is a blanket term, and doesn't necessarily imply the sale is inside a garage. From [http://www.webster.com Webster.com]:
::Main Entry: '''garage sale''' 
::Function: noun
:: a sale of used household or personal articles (as furniture, tools, or clothing) held on the seller's own premises - [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the other declines! Talk about a waste of valuable mission time! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' You're being way too literal, seriously. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 19:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Fun facts are, by definition, fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:30, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with modifier''' Since the place is the field where the "garage sale" takes place, it could be even part of a flea market. --[[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:42 ET 12 May 2005.
*'''Decline''' We use the term Band-Aid even when the bandage is a different brand, and we use the term garage sale even when they're not in a garage. Also it seems unlikely that Strong Bad's house would have a garage because we've never seen any of the brothers Strong with a car and thus the only reason he called it a garage sale was because the email said "garage sale".[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And then the Decline smote the Useless funfact, and all the land was laid to sanity...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 05:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't think he's neccessarily making fun of it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline'''I see where you're going with this, which is kidna the problem. It's a little obvious and pointless[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''TrogDecline!'''Were you just looking for a fact to STUFF or something? -Walking Armless
*'''Decline''' Just delete this fact...this is not worthy of STUFF -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''You're missing the point!!''' We already know that it's based on G.I. Joe! The whole point is that Matt is imitating the voice of Cobra Commander, but not his voice actor. Accepting this fact is like saying "If you imitate the voice of Homestar, then you are imitating/referencing/making-fun-of Matt Chapman because he is the voice actor." If three other people add to my '''Decline''', we can get The Eggman to close this fact and put it out of its misery. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 14:44, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
(UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Definitely a ''Diff'rent Strokes'' reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' TBC does like to be silly with their names, such as their Bill Bellamy schoolbell. While the bell is a specific reference, I'm sure any name with "bell" would have worked. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.
*'''Decline=Very Yes.''' Aunt Gert Alert! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline No it's because of the over 400,000 viruses. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''All right Edgar, drop a Decline on 'em!''' - No, Bubs' belt is slightly darker than the grass if you look close enough. It's the viruses, that's all. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:19 PM, 21 May 2005

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
====Peacy Prize====
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bushes====
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[privileges]]===
====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2005-06-02T01:52:33Z

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[Senorial Day]]===
====Señor Senior, Sr.====
Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")
*'''Accept''' I like it but I know some people here probably won't. Bonus points if you know where the title of this fact came from! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**I hear they're looking for a few good users over to the Kim Possible Wiki. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny, and it's true. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If not as a fun fact, then at least as a "Remark". -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**Er, a Remark ''is'' a Fun Fact... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Vera Weak Decline.''' Interesting, but ... nah. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted!''' Congrats, you got yourself an interesting fun fact! Funny and true! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept as a remark.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak accept''' its interesting...but is it really noteworthy? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Oh, what a feeling====
The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of an sales event called "Toyotathon".
*'''Accept.''' Toy-otathon. Bubs-otathon. Can't think of any other "-otathons". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This is a clear "Real-World" reference. The suffix "otathon" is totally complete here. It's not too obvious for a fun fact, is it? It wasn't immediately clear to me. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
**'''Second.''' Huh? Why was this STUFF'd? It's clearly a reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' I STUFF'd it because it was added, then removed, then added... I put it here so it could be definitively added. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondathon''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Now, why was this STUFF'd? While it may be obvious, like tomstiff said, no other -otathons. '''Accept-otathon-erson.''' (damn, my first -erson joke.)--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:21, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's the only other use of the "otathon" suffix of which I've heard. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' What else would it be? Of course it is. ^_^[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:42, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yep -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Lurking around====
Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Sad.
*'''Accept''' For Pete's sake, of COURSE this is a reference. 1. Despite what [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] says, it WAS Strong Sad that was the Lurker. 2. Doesn't "lurk" sound more than just a LITTLE awkward in that sentence if it's not a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Exactly what I was going to say. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Ehhh..''' I'm not convinced either way. I don't think "lurk" sounds at all awkward for Strong Sad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't catch it when I watched the toon, but it makes sense as a reference - ideal fun fact material {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Are people just STUFF'ing random things now? '''ACCEPT''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This could just as easily be a coincidence. What happened to Jay's rejection of all "could be's"? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[little animal]]===
====Used once more====
The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hey Anonymous! Why don't ya, um, write a post or something and not attribute it to yourself! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes basic rhythm guitar is just basic rhythm guitar. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' Have you ever heard the song? It is so Barracuda! It's even the same number of beats, the only difference is the basic rhythm guitar music in the email is a slightly different tone then the opening refrain of Barracuda. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:56, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**No it isn't, count them... guitar has 5 low ones then it rises, Barracuda has 7 low ones then it rises... All the same I think it's close enough, so '''Revise''' (get rid of the word "clearly"), but get your facts straight first. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***Well,I think it's close enough. Yeah, '''revise''' I guess, change 'clearly inspired by' to 'remniscient of',and you're set. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 17:44, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
****Yes, I've heard Barracuda. Over and over and over and over and over again since 1977. That's why I voted against this. It's not the same rhythm (see above) and SB doesn't sing it the same way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*It sounds slightly like Barracuda..but I would have to say '''revise''' as well to something equivalent to philip's suggestion. I do think it is some sort of reference too, as isn't the "meedly meedly" part a reference to a real song too? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept,dude!''' Wow, you have good eyes,if you were able to spot that! [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

*'''Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out.''' I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It tastes like a #1 DECLINE!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*It's obvious, but '''DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. [[User: GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept''' Why the heck not? by the way, are you feelin' alrite cheetachu72? you seem a little out of it.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*No *sigh* I'm okay. Just have mood swings now and then. WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUT OF IT?!? RRRRRRRRRRRRR! {gets hit by tranquilizer darts} uuuuuuuuuuu, {smack head against keyboard} [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I really don't see what's wrong with this fun fact. It's true the time capsule looks like the Isle of Pom. Plus, fans wouldn't be able to tell unless they go to the museum, which I myself didn't bother looking at until I was a hardcore fan. Yes, a capsule is a common shape, but I haven't seen it on the website too much, which makes it stand out a little. So '''Accept'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE!!''' Who cares! And Stinkoman looks like Strong Bad! -Kinsey

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be '''revised''' because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the well-known Japanese series
Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It was revamped for '90s North America, and had many
episodes cut out, including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:59, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mail's authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*We are the Knights who say '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''A nice and non-hurtful decline''' I just say let this one rest, and cease and desist arguing over such silly things. Silly silly silly I say -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, but Decline.''' Once again, this is stretching it big time. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:19 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''DECLINING...''' Until I e-mail the Brothers Chaps if they watch Monty Python. Which probably they will. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Burninating crappy Fun Facts, AND THEIR STRETCHABILITY! STRETCHABILITY!''' I'll just call over my friends, non-Stan and Lorreta, since obviously, there are no other Stans and Lorretas in the world, to see what they think of this. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I have actually seen the movie unlike at least one person on this page. It seems to be more or less correct. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' There are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-53,GGLD:en&q=%22Stan+and+Loretta%22&spell=1 real couples] out there named Stan and Loretta—too many for us to look at this as more than a coincidence without anything else to go on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**Notice how HRWIKI comes up first?
***'''comment''' You know, there are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22mike+and+matt%22&btnG=Search people] named "mike and matt" as well...but if you see a cartoon with those names in it, you bet your britches its a reference to TBC, right?
****Um, actually, no. Not automatically. Not without something else to tie it in. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.
*Major '''Decline'''. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 2:55 PM EDT 05/27/05.
*'''Decline.''' Even if the senders DID have MP in mind, it's not at all relevant. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
<s>*'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. </s> Actually, '''Rewrite.''' After thinking about it, there ''is'' a slight similarity, (Hence the fact that Homestar was drinking a lot more Melonade than he should and ended up having to use the bathroom), but it's really no reference. It just basically tells you that Homestar has a problem with over-drinking. Reword it not as a reference, but as a character trait. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:28 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Gotcha, and I stand by my decline -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' Now that Jay has cleared it up, I know what was meant by the above Fun Fact. It just needs to be reworded in a way that makes sense. (I.e. Homestar drinking several glasses of melonade may be a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].) Though we're never actually told in The Luau that Homestar urinated on all the logs that Strong Bad tried to light, it is obvious if you pay close attention. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:30, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' There's not enough for a reference. That's like saying that The poopsmith shovels crap is a reference to another time he shoveled crap.[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) (This would be a decline, but I've already voted)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
****ok thanks Jay--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' You never know what people don't know. I'm not sure if "half-and-half" is an Americanism, but if it is, a simple explanation like the one above would be useful for viewers from Foreign Lands. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm on a Declining Rampage!''' And did you know that Mountain Dew is a popular soda with spinoffs like Code Red and High Voltage?! ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:27, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
**Nope. Well, I knew it was a soda, but not the other stuff. (In short: bad example) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:57, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' Not that obvious. Not that interesting, either, but still not that obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment to thespludge''' What is high voltage? Are you referring to Livewire? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:57, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].
*''Moved in here because it's a 'might be'.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, i'm sorry. The correct answer, was Declined.''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I'm not that worked-up about this one. He would probably have typed Raffi if he meant to refer to Raffi. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:53, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''decline''' Don't like the "might be" (never do) but this one at least is plausible. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*"Might be" and "obscure" don't work for me, sorry. Although it has a small likeliness, I doubt it. '''Decline.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Accept''' because seriously I gotta accept ''one'' of these things, right? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:19, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dee-clined.''' Doesn't seem like any sort of referance to Raffi. It seems like too big of a stretch. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:55 AM, 21 May 2005
*Accept! Of course! Why not? --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 00:29, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.
*''Moved in here because it's a 'might be'.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete crappy facts outright! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I speculate that this fun fact might be declined...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' though there was a roller coaster like that in Wildwood there are other 'circle coasters' out there [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' No no no. There are rides like this all over. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - Strikes me as speculation and that usually doesn't make a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:02, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Freaky D'clined''' - Nope. Sorry. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:02 AM, May 21, 2005

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

*'''Decleated! I mean, Da Cheated! I mean Del Taco!''' Actually, I've ridden on a roller coaster type thing (called "The Loop") in which the only track was a circle (Shaped like this > '''O'''). But, we unfortunately ''didn't'' catch fire. *Sigh.* [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*Decline I saw on once called the ring of fire. No one passed out. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Second: Revise, Decline...oVG2?:''' Talk to my man with the isometric formula and the Roller Coaster Tycoon! (Yes, Shockwave, a coaster in one of them Six Flaggie parks, has TWO loops.) -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:01, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Though most loops nowadays are tear-shaped, there are some roller coasters with circular loops. The intensity of the ride boasts a more thrilling coaster. The only real concern with circular loops is that there's a greater chance of riders falling out at the top, but that can be avoided if proper safety measures are taken. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:26, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' These exist, I think. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' I've been on roller coasters like that so they ''do'' exist. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' I first rode on a looping rolly-coaster in 1977. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declone''' If the info is wrong, then the fact isn't a fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll decline YOUR fun fact, my lord!''' I've been waiting all day to use that one. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:49, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you actually ''read'' the link above, you will realize that it is not a tradition as Jay said, but just a way to protect Homestarrunner and other movies, TV shows or media from being sued by people with the phone number. Even so, this isn't a noteworthy trait. I don't think that it would be particularly "fun" -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**Hmmmm. I *did* read the link before I posted it. It shows that the use of the "555" in the toon is a reference to (or a similar usage of) the "555" used in movies and television. Whether it's a "tradition" may be in question, that fact that it's a reference (or perhaps an explanantion) is not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***But the thing is that it is so common in almost anything in media with a phone number that I fail to see it as a "reference". It's more of just a staple of cartoon numbers. It was probably not meant to be a joke -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Tandy 400 Goofs====
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline.''' Need I say more? [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

*This is a generic sentence that I've heard plenty of times outside Weezer songs - I've left it on do over in case, though.
*Uh, no. No it's not. Turn off geekdar. It's haywire. '''Dolores!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:27, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' are we seriously voting for this? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE''' It's things like THIS that we need to purge STUFF from. Someone had reentered this "fun fact," and I didn't know it was in STUFF. But it looked so stupid, I just deleted it on the spot. That's what should have been done here. C'mon people, while some facts are good to STUFF, like the "Family Guy" one below, others are better off disappearing. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 12:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is only interesting in that the author attempted to atttribute the reference to a band other than TMBG! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Holy crap, no''' That's a very common phrase. Get this so-called fun fact out of my SIGHT. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:03, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondated!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is absurd.''' This is ''not'' how STUFF was meant to work. This page is for those facts that fall in that gray area of "maybe good, maybe not." It's not for ''this'' kind of nonsense. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Um, I dunno what that MEANS! And you're still DECLINED!''' *cough* yup. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, it's not. (declined)''' 21:58 17 May 2005
*'''Yeah, shut up kid kthx''' Keep crap off kthx. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:11, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Are you some sort of Declined Brew?''' Absurd loose music reference. No. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:33, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*Common pharse '''Declined''' [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''DEE-CLAAAANE!'''What?! Are you kidding? Everybody knows "Falling for you" is just a common phrase. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's a common phrase. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' 'Nuff said. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline!''' What everyone else said. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:58 AM, 21 May 2005
*This one doesn't even deserve my vote. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:59, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.
*THIS was in the remarks it seams useless to me don't change it is in the remarks on the page for DO OVER allred this is just caliging it
*'''Decline''' First, sign your posts. Second, although I do think this is mildly interesting, it is not enough to really merit a fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline The angle and force at which the drum is struck can affect it somewhat as well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' Homestar has no arms invisible or otherwise. Quit saying that he does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:35, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because your geekdar's broken. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''revise''' eliminate the second sentence completely. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Decline''' as it is false. If you hit the centre of a drum it gives a low pitch, but hitting the edge of a drum gives a higher pitch. Plus things like how hard you hit the drum, as mentioned above. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 11:38, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Seriously, have you nothing better to do than speculate as to how percussion works for people whose arms actully aren't there? Get a life.
*'''Second Fizz's Post.''' And I'm sure if it was eliminated in the first place, most of the people who have said "Dacline" would have probably voted "Accept." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:20, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not me. '''Decline''' [[user: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 22:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCORPTED!!!'''Some revision wouldn't hurt but it's pretty good as is.[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' - [http://darthno.ytmnd.com/ Darth Vader summarizes my feelings]; just doesn't seem that noteworthy. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

VERDICT: After just over two weeks of voting, this fact was Accepted with 16 valid accept votes and 8 valid declines. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

*'''Decline''' And computer keyboards are useless to people with boxing gloves for hands. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline'''. So? Also, how is a laser gun useless to someone with no hands? I don't see a trigger on it or anything, it could be linked directly into his nerves... Just point and think. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Apparently you've never heard of megaman. :)
*'''Decline, and I hate you get out''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and fun facts are useless unless they are "fun" or even "interesting" --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' When you have nothing nice to say about a fun fact ... -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' pointless, useless and I think this qualifies as an opinion instead of a fact. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Witty H*R-related phrase involving the word 'Second'''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:42, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
***Who gives a holy crap? Why wasn't this just DELETED? '''DECLINE!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:17, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh really? I thought most people played the guitar with their faces! Hah, how silly of m-DELETED!! 220317May
**Jimi Hendrix did... --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:13, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' "I DON'T WANT TO EAT A GUITAR!" "You're not eating it... you're shredding some hot licks... with your teeth." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:54, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's true, and, yeah, I hadn't thought of that, but it's kinda "eh."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:25, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, and I hate you too''' - Enough said. Really. This hardly qualifies as a usable fact, for god's sake. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:49 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Revise, Accept'd''' Say something more like:
<pre>Stong Bad wanted to have a lazor gun and a guitar for hands but there is no way he could play
the guitar or fire the gun without hands.</pre> --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Even then I think this fact is sort of pointless. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:55, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declorn'd!''' I think someone ELSE could play guitar, like coach z or something. Since your hand is a lazor gun, you can fire it yourself! I mean, the lazor gun WOULD be part of you. It's exactly like saying your hands have no use! --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:02, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*This actually was interesting, I dont think any of you realized that you can't play guitar with a lazor gun, ya know? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:25, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

*'''All is Off...Decline it Decline It!''' I'm sorry. I just don't see any connection whatsoever except for the fact that they both are music. If someone can see any resemblance, I'll change my vote. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
**'''SECOND'D'D'D'D'D'''--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' because you contradict yourself in your very next sentence. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a generic parody of crappy compilation CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*erm...no. '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' No sir, I don't like it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yo declino''' For the reasons stated above [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' How? Just because the rest of the email involves children? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 20:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second:''' Never thought of anything else when I saw the CD. Never even thought of Kidz Bop. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Remove the part about the CD-spine. That's random, lame, and belongs somewhere else.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Decline''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declinedified!''' It was only made for the name of the email person, All-is-on! It was just a coincidence. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Technocomment, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh...''' Even if this fact was accepted (which it probably won't be), you're saying two different ffffffffff *gag* fuuuuuuuu *sputter* fu-hun facts (hard to call it a FUN fact) [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:36, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

*'''Decline.''' We have the Appearances section on pages for items, characters, etc. to give information like this. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Besides, its not like the Pom Pilot is a item that appears in most cartoons, so I wouldn't think it would be that interesting anyway --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Yeah, I'd have to agree with this.... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because... ehh... because. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Already listed elsewhere. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' So, how else are you supposed to hang a link to the Pom Pilot in the article? I don't think we're supposed to put links in the transcript. The only other time that the Pom Pilot is mentioned is in Goofs. I guess you could put it there, but I don't really like that. Maybe we need a Props listing under the Cast listing (just an idea). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:06, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 04:58, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

*'''Must...deny...funfact!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>Revise The evidence shown is convincing, but it may still be a coincidence. If you can show a little more I'll accept.</strike>Since you failed to revise, Decline--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' The fact that this one actually contains the phrases "this '''may be''' and '''stretch'''ing things" should disqualify it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*<strike>Comment It still might be true. The "emerson" and "tark" things are convincing, he just needs to add a little more proof.</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*4 letters out of 26 can't convince me.[[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::*<strike>Hence why I said he needs more proof</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
:*And somehow I'm still not seeing it. Besides, he probably called him Emerson because adding "erson" onto someone's name is a HR running gag. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*According to this --> [[Names ending in -erson]] you are correct, <strike>it still could be a double gag though. However, I'm not accepting it yet anyway. As I said, he needs to give more proof. </strike>--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*'''Comment''' Although that is true, it was not a running gag at the time because this is the first appearance of it.
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes an -erson joke is just an -erson joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinexord''' Emerson is also a company that makes sinks and dishwashers, not to mention that Emerson is a real last name. Who knows where they were going? And who cares? -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

*No... it really doesn't. It's a joke. '''3-Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 04:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**Agreed. '''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Really?! I never got it till now! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declinerween, Declinerween, You're 55 million light years from Accepterween!''' (in sarcastic voice) I'm absolutely stunned. I never noticed this! Whoever posted this fun fact should be like, a professor at like Harvard, or CGNU, man! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline''' - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' ..........What? [[User:The_Pardack|The_pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' <shatner> I... dontunderstand. </shatner> --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline with an iron fist.''' That doesn't even make sense. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:30, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a bronze fist.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I can't tell who's really being sarcastic and who's not, I think it's obvious if you just think about it for all of three seconds. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 06:26, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You! Obey the Decline Fist!''' Or at least Rewrite so I know what you're talking about. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:53 AM 21 May 2005

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

*'''Weak Accept''' I'm not sure if this is really worth pointing out but hey... it's true. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline''' True, but pointless. These should be ''fun'' facts, right? [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' The same could be said for the ending of Rock Opera. Remember, they're supposed to be "Fun facts" not "lets nit pick every little detail facts". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Accept This would make a good remark, yes. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Just as long as it's listed as a Fun Fact and not a Goof, I find it okay. It's not a Goof simply because he could be lip syncing and not really making any vocal sound. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, he's there. No, he's not singing. Yes, this phone is plugged in. We can tell that he's not singing by looking at him. Not fun in the least. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declome.''' Everyone's there, whether they want to sing or not. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch, GmbH|S-B, GmbH]]
*'''Decline''' And he isn't singing so... there isn't a problem... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''!d'enilceD''' Yeah, a lot of those people weren't even singing.
* And what about Pom Pom? All he can do is burble. Its just not worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This goes without saying. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral.''' Both sides make some pretty good points. -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:43, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Yeah, that's a good fact. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005
****So what? It doesn't matter. It's a cartoon. Dunno if I already voted but I don't think I did so '''Decline.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:08, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I'd really like to know why people have such a problem with this fact. It's true... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' It's not that it's wrong, it's just not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' No, he was running so fast that you couldn't see it. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' I noticed this too, but never thought to add it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Sorcended!!! I mean, second'd'''--[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Second''' Running so fast you couldn't see it my eye! --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''(Almost) Accept''' The aid of flashbooklets helps on this one. But I'm not really sure if it needs to be noted. To be honest, I checked for the bug before I read this, so it might be valid. --[[User:weirdguy|weirdguy]]
*'''Accept'''. I noticed this, and thought it was funny... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:13, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' So?? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 16:12, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's true. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:33, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*The pessemist that I am I attempted to discover exactly how and why this fact was false. I watched it several times over and tried to come up with some rationale for how the bug does not show up. In the end though I have to say that this is true, and it is interesting enough to stay '''Accept'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:58, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That's why he said "I DID swallow a bug" at the end, I think.
*'''Insert Homestar-related Accept pun here.''' I noticed this too. --[[user:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:03, 24 May 2005
*'''No!'''No, you people are SO technical! Think of what a normal person just watching the toon would see! He's running fast, everything around him is a blur, so you wouldn't notice it! Of course they didn't use one, but they don't have to there. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.
*'''Accept.''' We have links to IHOP. Why not Dairy Queen? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:35, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Also links to Sonic, Winn-Dixie, Hardee's, Sbarro, Del Taco, Chick-fil-A, and Big Boy. I'm sure there are more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' You'd be surprised what some people don't know. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' sure, why not? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:47, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' DQ is no McDonald's or Subway, (there's only one in my town!) and you have to admit it's an interesting nickname. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This fact is fine, particularly because I'm not sure all parts of the country (not to mention other countries) have Dairy Queens. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:14, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Good with me. Continue, brave Fun Facter! -Walking Armless
*'''Cool Cool (aka accept)''' I WENT TO DQ YESTERDAY!!! --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'Tis True Pom Pom, 'Tis True, so '''Accept!''' -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:51 PM, 21 May 2005
*Could we possibly have a unanimous '''Accept''' on our hands? --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:55, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah...that's a first.
*'''Accept''' I guess if people accepted my half and half one, I should accept this one. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 22:46, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oy vey, people! Like I said before, not all of these need to be STUFF'D! --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:54, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment
*Trogga's pushing it again. '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Sure, why not, if it's true. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline''' A very common phrase that's a tad too obvious. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't know it. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:32, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Most poeple should know what a quack is... and if you don't i'm sorry --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:52, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept'''. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Weak Decline''' It's true, but it's common knowlage--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Accept''' Doc Zamboni's Egustorative Snake Oil Elixir Extract, and the ladies will be all-up-ons! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:59, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).

{{User:Gafaddict/STUFF verdict| verdict = declined| decline votes = 10| accept votes = 6| fun fact location = Bug in Mouth Disease}}

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".
*As the writer, I '''Accept''' it, but I put it here because I'm not sure if it's enough for a fun fact. I think the grammatical use of "whom" isn't exactly widely known, but some people might disagree. Also I'm not sure if it should go in Remarks or Explinations. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I know, I know, it's just a joke. I know, I know, not every joke requires an explanation. But speaking as a devoted silly fact slayer, I think this is worth a mention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Definetly depends on what section this is meant to go in. I would say remarks. '''Accept'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second. Which means accept. :P'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Few people know the rules of "who" and "whom" but it's still a grammatical error and therefore I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah its worth being there, though you might consider adding the fact that Strong Bad is famous for his anal-retentive attitudes on grammar yet he does not react to this common mistake. '''Accept''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is true and worthy of note...DELETED. That's what you thought I would say, right? Well, too bad. '''Accept''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I'm pretty sure TBC were under the impression that we should already know this, as that's the joke. No need for fun factization, it's pretty obvious. (to me at least)
** While most will realize that its wrong, they may not get WHY its wrong. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This may or may not have been intentional, and the fact that it's grammatically incorrect is obvious. No need state the obvious. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
**So if I walk up to the average guy on the street and ask "When should you gramatically use 'whom' rather than 'who' in a question?" he'd be able to tell me? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:30, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
***I would think so, yes. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
****Not everyone has the grasp of the English language that you do. In fact, the MAJORITY of people don't. :P [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I never noticed this. And the fact that Strong Bad did not criticize it makes it fun enough to be a fact. [[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 01:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined.''' This is a FUN fact? Maybe for an englilsh teacher, but not for me. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*''Accept/Comment'' Actually, it's quite the oppisite. An english teacher would think it's common sense.
*'''Accept''' It's true, and a lot of people don't understand when to use who vs. whom. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:16, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Too obvious, more than likely deliberate, and not all that "fun" in any case. -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.
''Due to ballot stuffing, the entire vote will be restarted. All votes except Jay's (since this is Jay clearing everything) have been deleted, so we're starting with a fresh entry.''
*'''"I'm-a gonna accept."''' This is a good fact, or at least I think so. It should say something about a paniced scream about getting hurt, usually capatilized when they say it a 2nd time.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 18:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is becoming something of an edit war, and the poster who added it won't STOP adding it, so I'm putting it to the vote. Vote away, people. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*I stick by my '''Accept''' [[User talk:greg2point0|greg2point0]]
*<strike>'''Accept''' Just once this time =P [[User talk:Hawk-Eye-100|Hawk-Eye-100]] 3:49</strike> ''(This is the same user as the above vote. Check the History.)''
** {smack} That was the sound of my head hitting the keyboard. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* Jay, why are we even voting on this if its just the one guy who thinks it should be accepted? His cheating should've dis-qualified this fact from the get go. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
** To make a point, I suppose. He WASN'T STOPPING. He was even editing my "don't add this" note. I'm trying to take the higher ground here. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mere coincidence. And breaking the rules isn't cool. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:16 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Also comment that just because someone tried to cheat the vote doesn't mean the fact itself should be scrapped immediately, in my opinion. It should wait the two weeks from when the vote was restarted and considered unanimously declined (unless someone other than this cheater gives an accept vote of course). --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 11:47, 11 May 2005
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' IMHO, the '''four''' user names and ''two'' IP addresses involved in this incident should be banned permanently. This Wiki looks the way it does because the vast majority of the community follows the rules, both written and implied. Those who don't shouid not be welcome here (again IMHO). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and permaban the IP's. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meh, accept.'''(Upgraded vote: '''Meh, Very weak accpet.''') This guy's awfully devoted to getting his fact up, and it ''Italic text''is''Italic text'' true. Heck, I didn't even realize it until I read this. Anything that does so should work as a fun fact, no? So I don't see what's wrong with it but I think this should be in "remarks." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Sigh...TK, one guy does all the voices for the characters (Powered by The Cheat, Marzipan, and Teeg Dougland aside). Of course every once in awhile there is going to be similiar sounding dialouge. And just because a fact is true, doesn't make it fun. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
***Right. We could say "this is the first 'toon where Strong Bad tapes his head to the TV," and we wouldn't be wrong, but who cares? Anyway, I doubt that there's any real connection between these - they sound kinda similar, but that's it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Yeah, I guess...I'm going to demote my vote to '''Meh, very weak accept.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:39, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>I agree, it should go in "remarks". So '''Second'''. [[User:Supyall|Supyall]]</strike> ''(What is your deal? You can only vote once!)''
***Hmmmm. Where have I seen this user name before? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*We gave him repeated warnings and he's still breaking the rules. I say ban him. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Three-day suspension as of now. If he does it again it'll be indefinite. We warned him multiple times. Does he think we're stupid or something? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' - Dingell
*Whoever keeps putting this up, FYAD. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Dare I ask what that stands for? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*** ...you and die ;) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Oh. You learn something new every day, I guess... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Despite the chaox of this... Voting process, I say '''Accept'''. Could be a refferance...''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* As another mighty fun fact slayer said: Could be's are not cool. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll Accept your FACE!!''' to a bloody...pulp... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Not that it really matters, but is this an accept or decline?
*No no no no no! VERY small liason. VERY unlikely to be reference. VERY declined. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I wasn't going to step in, but considering the surprizing number of accept votes, I have to. This is coincidence people, nothing more. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:34, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even if they're a bit similar, it's nothing worth noting. -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.
*'''Now ''this'' fact is totally worth my time and consideration DECLINED!!''' Very, very different type of "one" being referred to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Seconded -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
***'''Seconded.''' -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*Oh, for the love of...it's a ''word'' people! We're not here to keep taps on every time a character says something twice! '''Decline'''[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second'd!!!'''What he said--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Bupkis'd''' Ummm ... decline! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*If there were ever a candidate to be immediately '''Deleted''' (skipping the STUFF process), this is it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''And once again so as to make me sound like a broken record: Not everything is meant to refer to something else.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second this "one".''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What!? No! No!! No!!! I mean, no! Never! No! What? No!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and STFU. (I'm in a bad mood today, deal with it.) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
* Decline. No. Just--just no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:21, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Definitely the wrong kind of ones. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''EXTREMELY STRONG DECLINE''' no not at all. I'm right, your wrong
*'''Well, there's more than one One.... Declined...''' No->No->No. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 04:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE³''' This is the biggest stretch EVER! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''De-freakin'-cline''' What made you think that??? -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:45 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''Down with Declined...ding.''' There's no real correlation here, as everyone else pretty much said. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:46, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.
*'''Decline as written''' Is it? I'm not sure. But "in years" is unprofessional. If you can provide an actual time span - and be accurate - then maybe you've got something here... if said time span is impressive enough. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I put on my detective hat and had a look. The last eggless toon was [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], a month and a half ago. Before that was the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] 3 months ago. [[Under Construction]] and most of the [[Puppet Stuff]] is eggless. If it is rewritten "The first cartoon (except April Fools features and live action) ..." then the last was [[Ballad of The Sneak]], 10 and a half months ago. Discounting music videos too, the latest was [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], 13 months ago. '''In summary''' - as written it is false, and rewriting to make it even one year ago requires too many caveats to be interesting. '''Decline'''. Incidentally, the last eggless email was [[property of ones]], and I put that in its Trivia section. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**All right, that settles that. '''Second''' and this "fact" may as well be closed now. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Okay,''' how about "This cartoon contains no Easter eggs"? Or, better, put the Easter egg section up with "(none)" listed under it. That way, people don't have to wonder whether there were eggs but we somehow forgot to list them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
** '''Not necessary''' We don't do that for any OTHER egg-less toon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Why not?''' It would make them all more complete. Where's the harm? Besides, since people ''expect'' the eggs, it's news when there are none. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Possibly:
<pre> Unlike most recent cartoons featuring the Freecounty, USA characters,
this one contains no easter eggs. </pre> -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:56 May 10, 2005
*'''ATTENTION POSTERS ALL!!''' I think what the post-er was trying to say was that it was the first ''Big Toon'' in whatever years, so this needs a '''rewrite''', changing "cartoon" to "Big toon" or "toon." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 10 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' In which case the last was [[Where's The Cheat?]] in February 25, 2002. However there have been so few "Big Toons" that my previous comment about the sample space being too small to be interesting still holds. I stick by my decline. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If a toon doesn't have an egg, it doesn't have an egg. People are smart enough to figure that out if there aren't any listed on the Toon's wiki entry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*GUYS! He means BIG toon! And He's Right! But he needs to REwrite it! '''ACCEPT BUT REWRITE FIRST!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' My only question is: what is "fun" about this fact? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Absolutly nothing. Its just another example of Wiki members thinking we need to document every last worthless detail. And while I appreciate rewrites, they're a pain when you have to keep changing whats being rewritten as parts of the fact are picked apart.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite.''' As others have said before, it should be noted that this is the first ''Big'' Toon to contain no Easter eggs in over three years. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:21, 11 May 2005
*'''Neutral''' While I noticed this too, I also noticed that this is the only Big Cartoon that has no credits of any kind either. Makes an interesting remark on its own, but I don't know... --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 02:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*O.K...I made up my mind: '''Decline'''. Look people, you could also say that this is the first cartoon to feature Homestar naked in a long time, but would that make it any more "fun"? I think not. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Going back to the last toon thing...actually, the last long toon was [[Shopping for Danger]], if you want to talk most recently. The last toon featuring the H*R universe was [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]], last year. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** Not exactly - Shopping for Danger DID have an Easter Egg, and SBIIJ had extra scenes after "THE END" (some people count those as Easter Eggs, even though they're not listed as such in our articles). Not as though I'm defending this fact or anything, just trying to keep out own facts straight. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' We can't start keeping track of this kinda thing... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I'd cut out "first in years" and replace it with something like: "a rarity to have no easter eggs." -Walking Armless
**(Not a vote.) Exactly.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:42, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.
:''NOTE: We're voting on the CGNU portion, not the tiny portion.''
*<strike>'''Neutral''' The wording is very very poor, but I'll leave it to the vote. Y'no, if anyone cares about this page any more. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)</strike> Know what? I'm changing to '''Decline''' because, truth is, we really DON'T know that he's a CGNU graduate, and we don't really need the speculation. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*Bubs attends night classes at Disco Tech according to the [[Homestar Quiz]]. Perhaps they had a VCR repair course? Or maybe Bubs is just an unethical quack who tapes clocks to broken VCRs. It's possible that he went to CGNU, but since we don't know, I give it a '''Decline'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''So weak that its creepy decline''' GEEEEEEZZZZ OH PEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ! YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TOO HARD!! Oh yeah and the post above mine, I agree with that so I guess this is kind of a '''second,''' too. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' Ohhhh, people with way too much, time on their hands, doo doo doo! [[User:DancingRobots| DancingRobots]]
*So because among Bubs's fake (I assume) buisness cards, there is one that says "Dr" Bubs, we assume he probably has a doctorate in something? He didn't just make it up and shove it on a card? Bubs Normal Investigator is also apparantly not affiliated with Bubs Paranormal Investigator, does that mean we should make a fun fact that Bubs must have multiple personalities, or there are several Bubs's or something? Of course not. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''. You see, the joke is, in the e-mail [[CGNU]], Strong Bad is offering classes in TV/VCR Repair. Bubs could have gotten his certificate. Obviously the paranormal/normal investigator is an independant joke, not relevant here. I think the idea of Bubs attending a Strong Bad class is funny enough to keep it. And to those that say he didnt neccesarily go to CGNU, I ask you this: What other school in the H*R universe has TV/VCR Repair classes? He MUST have gone to CGNU, because it is the only school. I rest my case. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 01:25, 13 May 2005
** Right. We know that. But we KNOW that Bubs tried to repair a VCR in [[12:00]]. We DON'T know that Bubs is a CGNU graduate. Without this knowledge, this is nothing more than speculation about a common use of a couple of common words. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Exactly how "Common" is "TV/VCR Repair"? I havent used that phrase in real life, ever. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** So you've NEVER seen an infomercial? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** ''(on the edit)'' We can't answer the "which school" because the only one we know about is CGNU - but that doesn't mean it's the only school! And we don't know Bubs went to ANY school for VCR repair. And just because you think it's funny, that's no reason to keep it in and of itself. And, BTW, was it necessary to change the title of this fact (formerly "See Gee In Bubs")? Yours makes it look too similar to vvv that one. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**It seems to me that the CGNU thing and Bubs' business cards both refer to the same real-life observation -- a lot of ads for sketchy correspondance schools prominently advertise "TV/VCR Repair" as a "major". So this is not referencing CGNU, it's just referencing a general occurrence. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:22, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*What does "See Gee In Bubs" mean anyway??? I don't get it. "Dr. Bubs" makes it clear that we are questioning his Dr. Bubs business card. "See Gee In Bubs"... doesnt mean anything to me. Please explain. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**[[mascot|See Gee In You]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**OHHH Now I get it. I was reading it too literally. Well, change it back if you want. Its a wiki. Maybe make it "CNG - bUbs" --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 03:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.
*So weak a connection. I thought I would '''Decline''' it! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*I '''accept''' it, certainly. [[User:Cookiecaper|Cookiecaper]] 23:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dr. Decline''' And why? There's no connection except the word "Doctor" and Bubs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 23:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Shut up kid!''' Nah, Homestar is just being silly. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Upon further consideration, this reference is awfully weak. [[User:SilverSurfer|SilverSurfer]]
*'''Decline''' Everything is a reference to everything these days, eh? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24 10 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Even if it's not an intentional reference, it's a good catch! - Dingell
** Uh... if it's not intentional then it's not a reference. And, as thus, the "fact" is not. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I shoulda '''declined''' this like a million years ago! [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* I was the person who wrote this fun fact. It was what I thought of when I saw the toon, but I understand that the connection is quite weak. Actually, I'm a little surprised no one said anything about the "could be" in there. Anyway, since most of you feel the same way, I cheerfully withdraw the fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could be's aren't usually good anyway. I'm gonna say no and hit it with a little '''uh digga digga digga digga digga digga digga DECLINED!''' -- SBEmail22
**'''Second''' -[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".
*'''Decline''' This is another case of thinking a similar joke on the same phenomenon is the origin of the joke itself. "My stories" is simply how some people refer to the soap operas they watch. Heck, George Carlin makes reference to that in an album from the '70s, and that's not the origin either -- it's just that sweet English language in action again. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 12:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deliciously Declined''' And I'm glad someone saw fit to remove the "fact" stating the stories gag was a Simpsons reference. C'mon folks, not every little detail in the HR universe is derived from something else. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding those above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When someone refers to a TV show as a story, they're talking about a soap opera. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:41 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 20:18, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delteated!''' STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING again, ain't we? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you were to mention all the things this [http://www.google.com/search?q=grandma+%22watching+her+stories%22 could have come from] then we'd get a TTATOT. And while finding out what the origin of this phrase was would be good, it's probably not going to happen, and it's almost certainly not this. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's just a common saying among grandmas, like "gar-bazhe" among moms. My grandma is always referring to TV shows as "stories" - Dingell
*MAY BE != IS. '''DECLINE''' *exhales* [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED. [[User: James Craven|James Craven]]

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

*'''Accept''', If 'likely' is changed to 'possibly'. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** They're still forms of the phrase "may be". '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*Or it could be Masterpiece Theater. Who knows... who cares? Too much speculation. '''Decline, old boy''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Good thinkin there. -- Dingell
*Naaaahhhhh '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment''' If I remember correctly, I think [[The Announcer]] has a British accent. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:06, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Nothing more than speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Dacline.''' I see wut you're saying, but the Caleb Rentpayer sounds more of a soap then something Public Television would view (although EVERYTHING is technically "public television" I am referring to channels like PBS, as I think SB was). I think the show SB is talking about was probably a documentary hosted by a british guy (which PBS is chock-full of.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' We're not talking about Caleb Rentpayer, we're talking about the show Strong SAD is watching... [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:08, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' Actually a very good catch. -Walking Armless

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination.''' No connection. Next! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

*'''Decline''' Why oh why someone thought this was trivia boggles the mind. There is nothing to this "fact". She raised an eyebrow, whoopdie do. Trivia implies that someone will actually find the information interesting, nobody cares about facial expressions unless it somehow reveals something about the character (in the case of Strong Bad, it'd show that he actually has eyebrows). This just encourages the posting of worthless facts. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Then again, have we ever seen Marzipan have eyebrows?
**If you watch her character video and the SB is in Jail Cartoon you can see her eyebrows when she makes her angry face. However, we're talking about a cartoon with characters sans arms and that has a guy with a wrestling mask for a head and boxing gloves for hands. Eyebrows aren't a concern. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' [[some kinda robot|Some kinda robot]] marks the first time we see Strong Bad using a computer. So what? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept''' Lately, TBC seem to be adding new facial expressions to the characters on a regular basis (like SB's sarcastic look in "long pants"). It might be worth it to point them out. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:33, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''accept''' New facial expressions happen once in a while and it's interesting to note when it happens. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Strong Decline''' Why not add 'This is the first time we see Senor Cardage talk to Strong Sad' or 'This is the first time Coach Z buys something from Strong Bad' too? --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 9:30 14 May, 2005
*Accept Sure, why not. It's worth adding. *shrug* [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:25, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Srong Accept'''come one peoples (prenounced 'pee-oe-puhls') this is the first time we have evidence of Marzipan having eyebrows period, up until this she was like my friend Jeff who had no eyebrows--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline.''' When Garfield makes a new expression in that comic strip of his, it's not something I write up in my diary. "Ooo, Garfield made a kind of a smirk, but he was wiggling his ear at the same time! I never saw that before. I wonder what he was thinking?"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:38, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

*'''NO'D!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nay''' [[User:71.110.2.216|71.110.2.216]] 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:08, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. There's nothing more to say. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''hahahaha NO''' Like I said, check your frickin facts! --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]]
**'''SECOND.''' Absolutely not the case![[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:38, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nooo, no no no no. Decline.''' - Nuh uh! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:34 PM, 23 May 2005

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

*'''Accept.''' Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' Garage sales aren't in garages. They're called garage sales because one usually sells the old junk that's been sitting in one's garage. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Utterly useless fun fact. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''--[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 18:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' And I've seen a yard sale in a garage too. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:27, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Garage sale, yard sale, they can be used interchangably. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''. Garage sale is a colloquialism. It doesn't mean that the sale has to happen ''in'' the garage. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' The garage sales I've seen actually take place in garages. I won't be sad though if this fact gets voted down. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' What he said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 04:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:21, May 8 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 9:50, May 12 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this obvious, but also the term "garage sale" is a blanket term, and doesn't necessarily imply the sale is inside a garage. From [http://www.webster.com Webster.com]:
::Main Entry: '''garage sale''' 
::Function: noun
:: a sale of used household or personal articles (as furniture, tools, or clothing) held on the seller's own premises - [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the other declines! Talk about a waste of valuable mission time! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' You're being way too literal, seriously. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 19:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Fun facts are, by definition, fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:30, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with modifier''' Since the place is the field where the "garage sale" takes place, it could be even part of a flea market. --[[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:42 ET 12 May 2005.
*'''Decline''' We use the term Band-Aid even when the bandage is a different brand, and we use the term garage sale even when they're not in a garage. Also it seems unlikely that Strong Bad's house would have a garage because we've never seen any of the brothers Strong with a car and thus the only reason he called it a garage sale was because the email said "garage sale".[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And then the Decline smote the Useless funfact, and all the land was laid to sanity...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 05:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't think he's neccessarily making fun of it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline'''I see where you're going with this, which is kidna the problem. It's a little obvious and pointless[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''TrogDecline!'''Were you just looking for a fact to STUFF or something? -Walking Armless
*'''Decline''' Just delete this fact...this is not worthy of STUFF -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''You're missing the point!!''' We already know that it's based on G.I. Joe! The whole point is that Matt is imitating the voice of Cobra Commander, but not his voice actor. Accepting this fact is like saying "If you imitate the voice of Homestar, then you are imitating/referencing/making-fun-of Matt Chapman because he is the voice actor." If three other people add to my '''Decline''', we can get The Eggman to close this fact and put it out of its misery. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 14:44, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''IT'S TIME TO DECLINE!!''' I swear you could do better. -Kinsey

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
(UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Definitely a ''Diff'rent Strokes'' reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' TBC does like to be silly with their names, such as their Bill Bellamy schoolbell. While the bell is a specific reference, I'm sure any name with "bell" would have worked. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen The Waterboy. Look at the similarities:
*disconnected phone
*the word "Coach" in both names
*both were talking to family
*both were in a dining area
That's enough for me. '''Oh, ACCEPT, it's you.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh, great. It's another "Change of Pace". I mean it. There is no notable difference between this and Change of Pace in my eyes. '''Decline''' for the same reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'd!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.
*'''Decline=Very Yes.''' Aunt Gert Alert! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline No it's because of the over 400,000 viruses. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''All right Edgar, drop a Decline on 'em!''' - No, Bubs' belt is slightly darker than the grass if you look close enough. It's the viruses, that's all. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:19 PM, 21 May 2005

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
====Peacy Prize====
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bushes====
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[privileges]]===
====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[guitar]]===
====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
*Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
*[[User:Homestar_Coder]] has vowed in [[Talk:guitar]] to delete any mention of "Barracuda" from fun facts on the basis that "there are many possible songs that the 'rhythm guitar' could reference."
*The only other song I saw in the history was Bonanza, which for so very many reasons is obviously false and ''should'' be kept out.
*What do you think? I only ask that you listen to "Barracuda" and the email before deciding this one.
**In the future, I would appreciate if you would refrain from claiming I "vowed" to do anything. I merely deleted the fact, explained my reason, and requested you put it in STUFF if you don't agree. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 06:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Eyes====
Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

*'''"Oh no! You shank my ACCEPTION ship!"''' Nice observation! I kidn of noticed it, but I wasn't sure... Good job! --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:41, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepted, yo!''' - After some close inspection, yes, his eyes ''do'' seem a bit different. I guess TBC made this sort of mistake before with Strong Bad in "Where's The Cheat?" where they messed up one of his eyes. Nice job pointing this out! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 4:42 PM, May 27, 2005
*'''ACCEPT'''! Good find! -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* *Watches toon* Yeah, you're right. I think it's cuz he puts the wig on his head in front of his eyes and one eye had to be visible so they moved it, ya know?
*'''Accept'''- Whoa, crap, I never noticed that, nice find! [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

*One other think I noticed is that Strong Bad misspells "smokey" as "smoky". Shoould somebody put this? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Smoky is a valid spelling. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 00:54, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**I happened to notice that you misspelled "should" as "shoould." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, and '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:48, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, sorry, I didn't know it was spelled both ways. --
*I have been proven right. Very good observation. '''Accepting.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:07, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Those last 400 fun facts were not so good, this one is much better!''' Congrats to whoever wrote this fun fact. I mean, I might give 1 accept for every 30 declines. And if you couldn't figure out what the crap my vote is, IT'S A FREAKIN' '''ACCEPT''', MAN! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 16:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I was so ready to delete this fact and post a notice saying that provably untrue facts are DELETED!! I saw a picture where "time capsule" Homestar's eyes were placed on another Homestar, and it was totally unconvincing since the eyes were different scales in the first place. Then I watched the email, and compared it with [[flashback]]. Wow. '''It's true.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to do this since it's true, but '''Decline'''. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's very fun. I don't think the people who accepted have to worry, though, since I seem to be the only one on the opposite side so far. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:28, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====Isle of Pom?====
The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

*'''Uhhm, it's a DECLINE, no, and I hate you get out.''' I betcha I know why the person wrote this "fun" fact. Probably 'cause it's gross and nasty and old and they didn't want it. Y'know, I think (in sarcastic voice) Pom-Pom's voice sounds an awful freakin' lot like Mike friggin' Chapman blowing BUBBLES IN HIS MILK! Oh, man. I peed my carpet. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:10, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It tastes like a #1 DECLINE!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry but there are a lot of things on the site that look like that, there are the bog ole headache meds (a pic on the jar) power crunches in the 20X6 Game, Pom Isle, Time Capsule, and DEAD BODIES IN THE FREEZER!! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*It's obvious, but '''DECLINATION ABBREVIATION. No donut for you. Get outta here.''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 05:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The capsule is a rather generic shape. One that the Isle of Pom just happens to be in. [[User: GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''Accept''' Why the heck not? by the way, are you feelin' alrite cheetachu72? you seem a little out of it.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*No *sigh* I'm okay. Just have mood swings now and then. WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUT OF IT?!? RRRRRRRRRRRRR! {gets hit by tranquilizer darts} uuuuuuuuuuu, {smack head against keyboard} [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 15:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*I really don't see what's wrong with this fun fact. It's true the time capsule looks like the Isle of Pom. Plus, fans wouldn't be able to tell unless they go to the museum, which I myself didn't bother looking at until I was a hardcore fan. Yes, a capsule is a common shape, but I haven't seen it on the website too much, which makes it stand out a little. So '''Accept'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====No "la dee la dee la"?====
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Neutral''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be '''revised''' because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

===[[Main Page 22]]===
====ALL WRONG.......====
Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

*'''That is not a small decline! That is a BIG decline!''' I always figured it was a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[the show]] in which Homestar says "All wighhhhhht..." right before he recites his "Tim Duncan" list. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 05:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not another one of these, TBC re-use sound bites all the time so it's '''Decline''' for you [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*Only liars and thieves make bad Fun Facts, and those people get '''DECLINE'D'''... just ask The Cheat! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dear Strong Bad, how do you DECLINE poor fun facts? sincerely, the spludge.''' I'll second the pardack, and 100% agrees with him. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*I have suddenly come to the concluson that The Pardack is right. I never realized that. So for me, '''WEEKDAY DECLINE, erm, DECLINE WITH A FUNNY PUN''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 03:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Choke on your DECLINE!''' - Nah, sorry. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 6:32 PM, 26 May 2005

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Unaired Episodes!====
"teenage girl show!
Revamped for the 90's.
More humor! Finer dining!
See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the well-known Japanese series
Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It was revamped for '90s North America, and had many
episodes cut out, including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 00:59, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mail's authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*We are the Knights who say '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''A nice and non-hurtful decline''' I just say let this one rest, and cease and desist arguing over such silly things. Silly silly silly I say -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Sorry, but Decline.''' Once again, this is stretching it big time. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:19 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''DECLINING...''' Until I e-mail the Brothers Chaps if they watch Monty Python. Which probably they will. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 02:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Burninating crappy Fun Facts, AND THEIR STRETCHABILITY! STRETCHABILITY!''' I'll just call over my friends, non-Stan and Lorreta, since obviously, there are no other Stans and Lorretas in the world, to see what they think of this. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I have actually seen the movie unlike at least one person on this page. It seems to be more or less correct. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' There are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-53,GGLD:en&q=%22Stan+and+Loretta%22&spell=1 real couples] out there named Stan and Loretta—too many for us to look at this as more than a coincidence without anything else to go on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**Notice how HRWIKI comes up first?
***'''comment''' You know, there are a lot of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22mike+and+matt%22&btnG=Search people] named "mike and matt" as well...but if you see a cartoon with those names in it, you bet your britches its a reference to TBC, right?
****Um, actually, no. Not automatically. Not without something else to tie it in. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.
*Major '''Decline'''. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 2:55 PM EDT 05/27/05.
*'''Decline.''' Even if the senders DID have MP in mind, it's not at all relevant. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
<s>*'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. </s> Actually, '''Rewrite.''' After thinking about it, there ''is'' a slight similarity, (Hence the fact that Homestar was drinking a lot more Melonade than he should and ended up having to use the bathroom), but it's really no reference. It just basically tells you that Homestar has a problem with over-drinking. Reword it not as a reference, but as a character trait. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:28 PM, 23 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Gotcha, and I stand by my decline -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' Now that Jay has cleared it up, I know what was meant by the above Fun Fact. It just needs to be reworded in a way that makes sense. (I.e. Homestar drinking several glasses of melonade may be a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].) Though we're never actually told in The Luau that Homestar urinated on all the logs that Strong Bad tried to light, it is obvious if you pay close attention. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:30, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
****ok thanks Jay--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' You never know what people don't know. I'm not sure if "half-and-half" is an Americanism, but if it is, a simple explanation like the one above would be useful for viewers from Foreign Lands. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm on a Declining Rampage!''' And did you know that Mountain Dew is a popular soda with spinoffs like Code Red and High Voltage?! ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:27, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
**Nope. Well, I knew it was a soda, but not the other stuff. (In short: bad example) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:57, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' Not that obvious. Not that interesting, either, but still not that obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].
*''Moved in here because it's a 'might be'.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, i'm sorry. The correct answer, was Declined.''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I'm not that worked-up about this one. He would probably have typed Raffi if he meant to refer to Raffi. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:53, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''decline''' Don't like the "might be" (never do) but this one at least is plausible. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*"Might be" and "obscure" don't work for me, sorry. Although it has a small likeliness, I doubt it. '''Decline.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Accept''' because seriously I gotta accept ''one'' of these things, right? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:19, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dee-clined.''' Doesn't seem like any sort of referance to Raffi. It seems like too big of a stretch. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:55 AM, 21 May 2005
*Accept! Of course! Why not? --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 00:29, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.
*''Moved in here because it's a 'might be'.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete crappy facts outright! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I speculate that this fun fact might be declined...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' though there was a roller coaster like that in Wildwood there are other 'circle coasters' out there [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' No no no. There are rides like this all over. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - Strikes me as speculation and that usually doesn't make a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:02, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Freaky D'clined''' - Nope. Sorry. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:02 AM, May 21, 2005

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

*'''Decleated! I mean, Da Cheated! I mean Del Taco!''' Actually, I've ridden on a roller coaster type thing (called "The Loop") in which the only track was a circle (Shaped like this > '''O'''). But, we unfortunately ''didn't'' catch fire. *Sigh.* [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*Decline I saw on once called the ring of fire. No one passed out. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Second: Revise, Decline...oVG2?:''' Talk to my man with the isometric formula and the Roller Coaster Tycoon! (Yes, Shockwave, a coaster in one of them Six Flaggie parks, has TWO loops.) -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:01, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Though most loops nowadays are tear-shaped, there are some roller coasters with circular loops. The intensity of the ride boasts a more thrilling coaster. The only real concern with circular loops is that there's a greater chance of riders falling out at the top, but that can be avoided if proper safety measures are taken. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:26, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' These exist, I think. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' I've been on roller coasters like that so they ''do'' exist. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' I first rode on a looping rolly-coaster in 1977. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declone''' If the info is wrong, then the fact isn't a fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll decline YOUR fun fact, my lord!''' I've been waiting all day to use that one. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:49, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===

====555-What?====

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

*'''Decline First!''' Long-winded and obvious. Traditions aren't references. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' (Maybe '''Rewrite'''). Not everybody knows about this tradition. I thought it was interesting when I first learned about it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''NO ACCEPT, but revision is prolonging the inevitable, in other words, SECOND TO THE MOTION I WILL''' - 555 We Tip, anyone? (not a GTA: San Andreas reference).</s>
**"The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are traditionally used in movies, television, and radio." Something like that. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 06:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' It's not ''tradition'', it's protecting themselves. (In most areas, dialing 555-anything results in a computer telling you things like the time and weather.) If they put a real number and a real person gets harrassed by the stupid people who for whatever reason feel the need to call fictional telephone numbers, TBC may hear no end of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment: Revise some more, if not decline''' Hmm, good point. "The 555 number on Bubs' business card is used in movies, television, and radio to prevent usage of real telephone numbers." <s>If that doesn't work, I say '''DECLINE 3'''</s> '''Weak Accept...ed''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Here's the wikipedia [[Wikipedia:555_telephone_number|link]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[do over]] ===

====Totally not gettin' old?====
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline.''' Need I say more? [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

*This is a generic sentence that I've heard plenty of times outside Weezer songs - I've left it on do over in case, though.
*Uh, no. No it's not. Turn off geekdar. It's haywire. '''Dolores!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:27, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' are we seriously voting for this? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE''' It's things like THIS that we need to purge STUFF from. Someone had reentered this "fun fact," and I didn't know it was in STUFF. But it looked so stupid, I just deleted it on the spot. That's what should have been done here. C'mon people, while some facts are good to STUFF, like the "Family Guy" one below, others are better off disappearing. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 12:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is only interesting in that the author attempted to atttribute the reference to a band other than TMBG! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Holy crap, no''' That's a very common phrase. Get this so-called fun fact out of my SIGHT. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:03, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondated!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is absurd.''' This is ''not'' how STUFF was meant to work. This page is for those facts that fall in that gray area of "maybe good, maybe not." It's not for ''this'' kind of nonsense. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Um, I dunno what that MEANS! And you're still DECLINED!''' *cough* yup. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, it's not. (declined)''' 21:58 17 May 2005
*'''Yeah, shut up kid kthx''' Keep crap off kthx. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:11, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Are you some sort of Declined Brew?''' Absurd loose music reference. No. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:33, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*Common pharse '''Declined''' [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''DEE-CLAAAANE!'''What?! Are you kidding? Everybody knows "Falling for you" is just a common phrase. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's a common phrase. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' 'Nuff said. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline!''' What everyone else said. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:58 AM, 21 May 2005
*This one doesn't even deserve my vote. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:59, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.
*THIS was in the remarks it seams useless to me don't change it is in the remarks on the page for DO OVER allred this is just caliging it
*'''Decline''' First, sign your posts. Second, although I do think this is mildly interesting, it is not enough to really merit a fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline The angle and force at which the drum is struck can affect it somewhat as well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' Homestar has no arms invisible or otherwise. Quit saying that he does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:35, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because your geekdar's broken. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''revise''' eliminate the second sentence completely. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Decline''' as it is false. If you hit the centre of a drum it gives a low pitch, but hitting the edge of a drum gives a higher pitch. Plus things like how hard you hit the drum, as mentioned above. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 11:38, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Seriously, have you nothing better to do than speculate as to how percussion works for people whose arms actully aren't there? Get a life.
*'''Second Fizz's Post.''' And I'm sure if it was eliminated in the first place, most of the people who have said "Dacline" would have probably voted "Accept." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:20, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not me. '''Decline''' [[user: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 22:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCORPTED!!!'''Some revision wouldn't hurt but it's pretty good as is.[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' - [http://darthno.ytmnd.com/ Darth Vader summarizes my feelings]; just doesn't seem that noteworthy. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

*'''Accept-erson''' I actually saw Family Guy the night before this email was released and I thought about it as a watched this email. And considering the fact that [[TBC]] make updates (in this case, the new email) late Sunday night or early Monday morning (usually), it is a possibility. I mean, TBC seem like the kinda funny dudes who watch those kind of shows, like me. 8-P [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd think this would have been in the works for awhile. But, I did read in one of the interviews that they stick jokes in at the last minute. Still, I think it's a stretch. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I was just about to say that! Given the timing and Homestar's comment about being "jingly" ("tell me that doesn't sound like camp town races!") make me believe it. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!!!''' I'm willing to chalk this one up to coincidence without some more solid evidence (okay, okay, I didn't watch it, but it SOUNDS like it's the sort of thing I'd normally call a coincidence.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:24, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' As soon as I saw this, I immediately thought Family Guy, the timing is way too much of a coincedence, and the Brothers do e-mails on Sundays usually, especially since this one wasnt even up until later today, rather than early in the morning like usual. The brothers seem like the type who would watch Family Guy too. --[[User:Dex|Dex]] 21:28, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I would count this as a very bizzare coincidence...while it may be a reference, I doubt that TBC would have much time to put it in, and if they did if they cared so much...besides, TBC is not especially known to steal jokes from other shows. Reference them maybe, but it was essentially the same joke. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Accept.''' <s>I haven't made up my mind.</s> Although, if all the coins were ''nickels'', then it would be more clear-cut... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' and a minor '''rewrite'''-or at least a couple of fixes while I'm looking at it. I saw the same episode, and it seems like a reference to me. The timing's too good to make it unlikely. As for the rewrite, just stick 'aired' after 'episode' (doesn't sound right to me without it) and replace 'where' with 'in which' And Griffin has two Fs. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 23:25, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**Since these changes don't affect the substance of the fact, we'd might as well go ahead and make them.
*Accept You theif!!! I wanted to say this. Oh well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Why do you people think that TBC would reference the show, considering that the majority of Homestarrunner.com does not contain references to other pop culture shows and their jokes, especially not to the extent of stealing a joke. (after all it seems that the joke was not so much a reference as a direct steal if it was)....
**To the person who didn't sign their name: Uh... let me see here, Cheat Commandos is a huge reference to G.I. Joe, which was part of pop culture and is still a well-known character/franchise, Bug In Mouth Disease alludes to Dallas, pizzaz makes a Seinfeld reference, montage makes a big Rocky reference. As such, I have to disagree when you say HSR makes no references to pop culture. Granted, some of the many are no longer in pop culture, and some are dated, but one cannot say that there are no pop culture references. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 01:55, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
***Sorry about that, I forgot to hit the ~s. Now I was not saying that Homestarrunner.com never makes pop culture references...There are dozens, as TBC are big into pop culture in general. All I am saying is that the examples listed above parody or make fun of or at least ellaborate on pop culture. Not so with the alleged Family Guy reference. That seems to be (a) Not anywhere near as obvious as the others and (b) pretty much the same joke that Family Guy used. I personally would assume that TBC would be original enough to make up their own jokes, not use others, and I think there is a large difference in referencing and stealing the entire joke. Besides, I doubt they had enough time to anyway. I still think it is a coincidence. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
***On the other hand, it was posted one day after the episode aired, which is why I accepted this when I would normally decline --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* In ''The Dilbert Future'' by Scott Adams, Scott has a chapter where he talks about ideas, and how sometimes they can come off as not-original. He wrote a chapter about security cameras in public places and when he turned on his T.V there was a report on the exact same thing. He wrote a comic with a joke about a fake opera singer called "Placebo Domingo" and when he opened his newspaper there was a comic with the same exact joke. I guess what I'm saying is...its a coincidence. Don't be so quick to accept just because of that. This one should never have been STUFF'D, just deleted. '''Decline from school''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Unless I see evidence that convinces me otherwise, I'ma gonna '''Second''' that. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:41, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This one makes sense, and we all know that TBC will do last minute edits to make it even funnier. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 04:09, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**But other than the fact that Homestar eats change, is there anything less...coincidental tying it to Family Guy?
**Yes, the fact that this sbemail was posted the day after that episode aired. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
** Yeah, nice to know you read my reply on COINCIDENCES. Because its likely just a COINCIDENCE do you have any other connections beyond, "it was posted the day after the Family Guy episode". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**No but I'm not changing my vote and there's nothing ou can do about it. :D --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Sorry, everybody who declined this, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with this fun fact. '''Strong Accept.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::Please don't tell people that there is nothing wrong with this. They have their own opinion, and that is okay. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
*I know I already voted, but this sounds too coincidental. The timing and the similar (but apparently not identical) jokes are the only connection anyone has brought forth - and that's not really enough for me. It's possible, I suppose, but usually the "could bes" of the Wiki get near-unanimous declines. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' I say we add something around "It's coincidental that a day before this email came out, Peter Griffin tried to eat coins in an episode of Family Guy." in "Remarks". →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
**That might make a bit more sense as a fun fact, but it still lacks any "funness" or "factitude" in my opinion. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''STRONG ACCEPT''' I watched family guy on sunday, and when I saw the e-mail it made me think in an instant- I think that's a reference to Family Guy. [[User:im_a_evil_wizard|im_a_evil_wizard]] 20:36, 17 May 2005 (ETC)
**I actually thought the exact same thing when I watched this toon on monday. However, despite my early instincts, logically the "reference" would not make sense to me, as listed above -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Considering this email came out the day after the new Family Guy aired and it contained a very similar gag (even though Homestar didn't go blind from nickel poisoning), I'd say there's a good chance that this was an intentional reference. Family Guy seems like the type of show TBC would watch. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:44, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept so strong you'd think there were two of them''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:40, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' Even if it is a coincidence, it's a good fun fact. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** If its a coincidence then there is no reason to list it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Good thing it's not a coincidence --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** How can you be so sure? (oh, and when responded to a bulleted fact, use multiple stars instead of colons. It's easier to respond that way (you MUST use colons to respond to a colon-starred fact or it looks terrible), and the spacing is off if you use colons.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:45, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Usually when there's a pop culture reference, it's supposed to be what makes the joke funny. But this joke is funny on its own. It's actually less funny when I think about it being a reference, because like a bunch of other people said, it wouldn't be parodying, it would be stealing. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Accept.''' It wouldn't be stealing. It would be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage homage]-ing. [[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept''' I was thinking the same thing, but I thought it was a coincedence until I read in an intereveiw that they make the emails on Sunday. Now we just need Homestar to go blind. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
* Okay look, if the e-mail had been posted a week or more after the Family Guy episode, this wouldn't even be an issue, it would've just been shrugged off as a similiar gag and not a reference. TBC are not stupid nor do they blindly rip gags off from other people. The fact that the e-mail aired so close to the FG episode only adds to the evidence that its a coincidence. Family Guy isn't the only cartoon or show to have characters eating change (an episode of the Simpsons had Bart eating change). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Incredibly Strong Accept''' I think this is completely true. Maybe I will second Jay. But I don't think I watched that night, which ep was it of FG? --[[Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:02, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm gonna say ACCEPT''' - Makes sense to me. I like that episode too! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*All right, I'm 90% sure that most of this is because you like Family Guy, not because there's a real connection. The timing is probably nothing more than a coincidence, and from my understanding, the joke is only vaguely similar. EVERY OTHER REFERENCE BAR NONE that goes through STUFF needs a solid connection or it gets near-unanimous declines, but that solid connection is curiously absent here. Why accept this fact? I can't see why! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. I just don't see it. Other than the fact that it involved coinage being eaten, I just don't see any similarity between the two incidents --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*To everyone who wants more evidence: In the Family Guy episode the previous night, there were a couple of jokes about the coins jingling in Peter's stomach, and Homestar makes a very similar jingling noise after eating the coins. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 10:13, 22 May 2005
**Uh, that was already a part of the fact and adds nothing to this discussion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Nor does it add any weight to the evidence that the two jokes are connected. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*I agree with Jay. I think you guys are trying to make a connections where there is none, simply because you want it. I don't think TBC would be cheap enough to steal a joke from Family Guy. I, too, enjoy FG. I enjoy it enough to realize that both Seth Mcfarlane and TBC are original enough to not copy eachother in some sort of "homage".... - [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**It's not a stolen joke or a borrowed one, it's a reference. Sort of like TBC saying "Hi, we like your show" --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** If it IS based on FG, then it's a stolen joke, because they don't give any credit of any sort to the original - including SOLID references (like the type I've been asking for since my vote!). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:29, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Since when was did any of the referrences(anywhere on HR) get mentioned in the credits? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***** You're taking the word too literally. I mean that the references make some mention that can easily be tied to something else that makes the reference (relatively) clear - the name of the character on the Halloween costume is revealed, an exact line of dialogue is replicated, the name of an establishment is thrown into conversation, etc. Where's the tie here? It's a similar joke that could stand on its own without Family Guy having ever used the same joke. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:06, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***** For me it was the coins jingling inside homestar they way they did inside peter. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
****** But that's still just part of the similar joke that could easily stand on its own without FG having ever done the joke. It's not solid. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:21, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
******The point is we do have probable cause to believe this. I suppose it could be revised to say it was posted the day after a very similar joke on family guy aired, and that wether this was a wink at Seth Mcfarline, is unknown. That much is clearly true. --02:52, 23 May 2005 (UTC)~
******* We have just as much reason to accept this as "Get Back Loretta" and you Declined that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:55, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*******I obviously feel the reasoning provided is sufficient and much better than on that one, or I would have declined this one. I didn't however. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*******The only "reasoning" supplied has just given weight to the argument that this is a coincidence. Once again, the fact that the toons aired so close to each other, the fact that TBC DO NOT rip off jokes directly from other people (instead using more subtle references like in the Halloween toons), and that the jokes are not identical only help to show that its a coincidence. Nobody has given reasoning beyond the close air date. THAT is why people are so opposed to this one. And to the person who said the coin jingling noises were similiar: Get a bunch of coins together. Jingle them. Sound familier? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*******Apparently more are not opposed to it, then opposed. All you're argueing is "cus I said so". --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
********And now you're once again resorting to petty insults. Way to give me another reason to see this fun "fact" die. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I vote against. Similar jokes, yes. But not enough to consider one a referance to the other. '''Decline''' --[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 22:41, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is getting sort of petty on both sides, but my firm stance is: if this was referring to anything other than Family Guy, it probably would already be Declined unanimously. This fact is EQUALLY as valid as dozens of other Declined facts. The arguments that have been provided are all circumstantial and probably coincidental: a similar joke that happened to be one day apart. The words "might be" in the fact (which ARE there) cause almost everyone on this Wiki to Decline it without even reading any further. No solid connections - NONE - have been provided. Okay, so they both involve eating coins and having them jingle. That doesn't automatically make it a reference, since no dialogue is reproduced and no names are mantioned. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:41, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
* And I'll say it one more time - it doesn't actually ''refer to'' Family Guy at all. If it IS based on Family Guy then it's nothing more than joke theft, and I'd like to think that The Bros. Chaps are above that sort of plagiarism. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:49, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**Besides, (and this IS getting really petty), the way that Homestar made the sound of coins jangling is not similar enough to be called a reference to how Peter jangled. I mean, how many characters of cartoons have eaten change before anyway? How many have jangled in some sort afterwards as part of a joke? Even if this is a reference (which i highly doubt to be as such), what makes you think it was a Family Guy reference? If Homestar ate nickles, maybe. I like FG as much as the next guy, and I respect both the creators of FG and HSR to be original enough to not steal a joke from someone else. To me, this is starting to feel like that episode of South Park entitled "Simpsons Did it." Have we become Butters people? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:19, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*OK, I think this has been up for quite a while, and even though there is a lot of discussion, there are 15 Accepts and 6 Declines, so this looks like a winner.
** ''{At this point, Jay starts crying. Strong Bad puts away his Li'l Brudder drawing and walks away laughing.}'' How can the SAME PEOPLE declining "No la dee la dee la" accept this? It boggles my mind. There is no substance to this fact. It is "Family Guy did this, and Homestar did it too, and although there's no solid connection, it MUST be a reference" being accepted while "TBC are referencing THEMSELVES in something that contextually makes NO SENSE if it's not a reference and they reference themselves ALL THE FRIKKING TIME" being declined??? HAS THE WIKI GONE MAD?!?!?!?! ''{pant pant}'' Seriously needed to get that out of my system. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:37, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

*'''Decline''' And computer keyboards are useless to people with boxing gloves for hands. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline'''. So? Also, how is a laser gun useless to someone with no hands? I don't see a trigger on it or anything, it could be linked directly into his nerves... Just point and think. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Apparently you've never heard of megaman. :)
*'''Decline, and I hate you get out''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and fun facts are useless unless they are "fun" or even "interesting" --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' When you have nothing nice to say about a fun fact ... -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' pointless, useless and I think this qualifies as an opinion instead of a fact. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Witty H*R-related phrase involving the word 'Second'''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:42, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
***Who gives a holy crap? Why wasn't this just DELETED? '''DECLINE!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:17, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh really? I thought most people played the guitar with their faces! Hah, how silly of m-DELETED!! 220317May
**Jimi Hendrix did... --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:13, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' "I DON'T WANT TO EAT A GUITAR!" "You're not eating it... you're shredding some hot licks... with your teeth." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:54, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's true, and, yeah, I hadn't thought of that, but it's kinda "eh."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:25, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, and I hate you too''' - Enough said. Really. This hardly qualifies as a usable fact, for god's sake. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:49 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Revise, Accept'd''' Say something more like:
<pre>Stong Bad wanted to have a lazor gun and a guitar for hands but there is no way he could play
the guitar or fire the gun without hands.</pre> --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Even then I think this fact is sort of pointless. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:55, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declorn'd!''' I think someone ELSE could play guitar, like coach z or something. Since your hand is a lazor gun, you can fire it yourself! I mean, the lazor gun WOULD be part of you. It's exactly like saying your hands have no use! --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:02, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*This actually was interesting, I dont think any of you realized that you can't play guitar with a lazor gun, ya know? -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:25, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

*'''All is Off...Decline it Decline It!''' I'm sorry. I just don't see any connection whatsoever except for the fact that they both are music. If someone can see any resemblance, I'll change my vote. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
**'''SECOND'D'D'D'D'D'''--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' because you contradict yourself in your very next sentence. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a generic parody of crappy compilation CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*erm...no. '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' No sir, I don't like it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yo declino''' For the reasons stated above [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' How? Just because the rest of the email involves children? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 20:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second:''' Never thought of anything else when I saw the CD. Never even thought of Kidz Bop. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Remove the part about the CD-spine. That's random, lame, and belongs somewhere else.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Decline''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declinedified!''' It was only made for the name of the email person, All-is-on! It was just a coincidence. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Technocomment, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh...''' Even if this fact was accepted (which it probably won't be), you're saying two different ffffffffff *gag* fuuuuuuuu *sputter* fu-hun facts (hard to call it a FUN fact) [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 20:36, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

*'''Decline.''' We have the Appearances section on pages for items, characters, etc. to give information like this. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Besides, its not like the Pom Pilot is a item that appears in most cartoons, so I wouldn't think it would be that interesting anyway --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Yeah, I'd have to agree with this.... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because... ehh... because. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Already listed elsewhere. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' So, how else are you supposed to hang a link to the Pom Pilot in the article? I don't think we're supposed to put links in the transcript. The only other time that the Pom Pilot is mentioned is in Goofs. I guess you could put it there, but I don't really like that. Maybe we need a Props listing under the Cast listing (just an idea). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:06, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 04:58, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

*'''Must...deny...funfact!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>Revise The evidence shown is convincing, but it may still be a coincidence. If you can show a little more I'll accept.</strike>Since you failed to revise, Decline--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' The fact that this one actually contains the phrases "this '''may be''' and '''stretch'''ing things" should disqualify it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*<strike>Comment It still might be true. The "emerson" and "tark" things are convincing, he just needs to add a little more proof.</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*4 letters out of 26 can't convince me.[[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::*<strike>Hence why I said he needs more proof</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
:*And somehow I'm still not seeing it. Besides, he probably called him Emerson because adding "erson" onto someone's name is a HR running gag. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*According to this --> [[Names ending in -erson]] you are correct, <strike>it still could be a double gag though. However, I'm not accepting it yet anyway. As I said, he needs to give more proof. </strike>--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*'''Comment''' Although that is true, it was not a running gag at the time because this is the first appearance of it.
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes an -erson joke is just an -erson joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinexord''' Emerson is also a company that makes sinks and dishwashers, not to mention that Emerson is a real last name. Who knows where they were going? And who cares? -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

*No... it really doesn't. It's a joke. '''3-Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 04:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**Agreed. '''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Really?! I never got it till now! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declinerween, Declinerween, You're 55 million light years from Accepterween!''' (in sarcastic voice) I'm absolutely stunned. I never noticed this! Whoever posted this fun fact should be like, a professor at like Harvard, or CGNU, man! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline''' - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' ..........What? [[User:The_Pardack|The_pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' <shatner> I... dontunderstand. </shatner> --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline with an iron fist.''' That doesn't even make sense. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:30, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a bronze fist.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I can't tell who's really being sarcastic and who's not, I think it's obvious if you just think about it for all of three seconds. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 06:26, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You! Obey the Decline Fist!''' Or at least Rewrite so I know what you're talking about. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:53 AM 21 May 2005

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

*'''Weak Accept''' I'm not sure if this is really worth pointing out but hey... it's true. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline''' True, but pointless. These should be ''fun'' facts, right? [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' The same could be said for the ending of Rock Opera. Remember, they're supposed to be "Fun facts" not "lets nit pick every little detail facts". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Accept This would make a good remark, yes. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Just as long as it's listed as a Fun Fact and not a Goof, I find it okay. It's not a Goof simply because he could be lip syncing and not really making any vocal sound. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, he's there. No, he's not singing. Yes, this phone is plugged in. We can tell that he's not singing by looking at him. Not fun in the least. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declome.''' Everyone's there, whether they want to sing or not. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch, GmbH|S-B, GmbH]]
*'''Decline''' And he isn't singing so... there isn't a problem... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''!d'enilceD''' Yeah, a lot of those people weren't even singing.
* And what about Pom Pom? All he can do is burble. Its just not worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This goes without saying. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral.''' Both sides make some pretty good points. -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:43, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Yeah, that's a good fact. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===
====Music by TMBG?====
The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

*'''Mild Accept''' Hmm...interesting theory. Yeah, I guess it does sound pretty similar, now that I listen to both together. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I'd really like to know why people have such a problem with this fact. It's true... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' It's not that it's wrong, it's just not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' No, he was running so fast that you couldn't see it. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' I noticed this too, but never thought to add it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Sorcended!!! I mean, second'd'''--[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Second''' Running so fast you couldn't see it my eye! --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''(Almost) Accept''' The aid of flashbooklets helps on this one. But I'm not really sure if it needs to be noted. To be honest, I checked for the bug before I read this, so it might be valid. --[[User:weirdguy|weirdguy]]
*'''Accept'''. I noticed this, and thought it was funny... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:13, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' So?? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 16:12, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's true. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:33, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*The pessemist that I am I attempted to discover exactly how and why this fact was false. I watched it several times over and tried to come up with some rationale for how the bug does not show up. In the end though I have to say that this is true, and it is interesting enough to stay '''Accept'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:58, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That's why he said "I DID swallow a bug" at the end, I think.
*'''Insert Homestar-related Accept pun here.''' I noticed this too. --[[user:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:03, 24 May 2005

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.
*'''Accept.''' We have links to IHOP. Why not Dairy Queen? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:35, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Also links to Sonic, Winn-Dixie, Hardee's, Sbarro, Del Taco, Chick-fil-A, and Big Boy. I'm sure there are more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' You'd be surprised what some people don't know. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' sure, why not? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:47, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' DQ is no McDonald's or Subway, (there's only one in my town!) and you have to admit it's an interesting nickname. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This fact is fine, particularly because I'm not sure all parts of the country (not to mention other countries) have Dairy Queens. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:14, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Good with me. Continue, brave Fun Facter! -Walking Armless
*'''Cool Cool (aka accept)''' I WENT TO DQ YESTERDAY!!! --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'Tis True Pom Pom, 'Tis True, so '''Accept!''' -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:51 PM, 21 May 2005
*Could we possibly have a unanimous '''Accept''' on our hands? --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:55, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah...that's a first.
*'''Accept''' I guess if people accepted my half and half one, I should accept this one. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 22:46, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment
*Trogga's pushing it again. '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Sure, why not, if it's true. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline''' A very common phrase that's a tad too obvious. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't know it. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:32, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Most poeple should know what a quack is... and if you don't i'm sorry --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:52, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept'''. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Weak Decline''' It's true, but it's common knowlage--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Accept''' Doc Zamboni's Egustorative Snake Oil Elixir Extract, and the ladies will be all-up-ons! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:59, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).
*'''Accept.''' I don't know why (maybe it's the goofy picture), but I find this very funny. And I think it's relevant enough to Strong Sad's online search to merit inclusion under either the Trivia or Remarks section. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:09, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not particularly relevant to H*R, I'm afraid. Though it IS kinda weird. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 18:51, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''The Second Ones''' --[[User: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:40, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''I realize that.''' But it was just so... I dunno, ''bizarre.'' I didn't originate this fact myself; I noticed it while backtracking through the page's history, and it struck me as funny enough to be shared. I can already sense that this fact won't make the cut, but at least it will have a short life here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Intriguing as it may be, this simply isn't the place for it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:02, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Probably referring to his eyes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This ranks right down there with Aunt Gert. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**It might not be good enough for the article, but it's not as bad as ''that''.
* Sigh, you people just don't get it, do you. FUN. FACT. This is the only fact I've seen in a while that really fits that term. And what don't you get about it? Isn't it SLIGHTLY coincidential that Strong Sad said that he searched for the blue ones and found something kind od disturbing (he didn't exactly say it, but you know that's what he meant.)? I think this would be perfect for a Fun Fact...for now. If this gets taken off google then the Fun Fact should be dropped (even changing it to say "at one point" would make it lose its luster.) Oh, I never actually voted, did I. '''Accept, at least for now.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:19, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Calm down Mr "I know the real Foofoo Grass". People are declining it because its not RELEVENT not because its not interesting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept'''. This is actually one of the more intreguing Fun Facts I have ever seen (and one of the only ones I really actually persued cause it intregued me). I say let it on. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All other arguments aside, this fun fact doesn't work because it's temporary. Eventually, some other (more search-relevant) pictures will replace the Ellijah Wood photo and this won’t make sense. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Indeed. '''Second'''. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:43, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' They never actually say that Strong Sad searched Google, but I think it can be safely inferred, in which case I think this is one awesomely fun fact. I think it's also safe to assume that TBC did the search and knew what it was that they were indirectly referencing... and even if they didn't, I think it's worth recording, since future fans will likely be curious as to what was on the other side of the "blue ones" search when the toon was released. It should be revised, however, to say "At the approximate time that the toon was released..." since the search result is almost certain to change relatively soon. - Dingell
**'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**But that doesn't prove they were talking about the Elijah Wood image. And curious future users? Who cares? What, we're going to list everything an image search for "Blue Ones" will bring up? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I think it's a funny coincidence. I don't think TBC had it in mind, but it's an interesting observation. It should at least be put on the discussion page of Bug In Mouth Disease for people to see. And as said before, that picture won't always come up on a google image search for "blue ones", so it should be edited to "At the time this toon first came out..." --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**** But WHY would the Elijah Wood pic have to be singled out? Nobody has given one good reason as to why beyond "its interesting". Thats not a reason, thats an opinion. This fact has no place on the wiki. If people are curious, let them do their own image search. Or better yet, just post a link to google's results for "blue ones" and we can be done with this damned fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****I have *yet* to figure out why this is so fascinating to people. If you page through the results, there's a picture of girls in bikinis. Personally, I think that's *far* more interesting, but I ain't writin' a fun fact about it! Maybe there's some kinda Frodo-voodoo thang goin' on here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:04, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
******It's fascinating because many people like "strange but true" facts, especially considering (A) you wouldn't expect to find the picture using that particular search, (B) it's almost the very first result, (C) Elijah Wood is well known, and (D) the picture is kinda creepy. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:48, 12 May 2005 (UTC) — ''P.S.'' That bikini picture wasn't nearly worth the effort to find it. What a tease.
*******However, a picture of girls in bikinis would be better attributed to fact that Strong Sad got "nothing pleasant" [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 19:39, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' The picture in question could be uploaded to the wiki. Then, it wouldn't matter whether the original eventually wasn't on the first page of Google's results, because we could just link to our copy.
**No! NO! Stop it! Back off! Back the F*** off! IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COMES UP ON THE "BLUE ONES" GOOGLE SEARCH. THEY WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT ELIJAH WOOD. Whats worse, if you do image searches at Lycos.com or Altavista.com the Frodo pic? Doesn't come up. Sorry, "being sort of weird" doesn't entitle the fact to be placed on the Wiki. And NOBODY has answered my question for why this is relevent to the toon other than "It came up with the google search".[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Why are you yelling? The last I checked, the declines outnumber the accepts nearly 2 to 1; there's no real danger that this fact will make it to the page. Even if the opposite were true, we can still discuss these matters civilly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***To speak to your specific question, somebody out there (not me) wondered what Strong Sad would have found (if Strong Sad were real) when he searched for "blue ones". The Elijah Wood picture was what he or she found and, being sufficiently strange, qualified as "nothing pleasant" to this unknown originator and to at least a few of us as well. It's a tenuous link, perhaps, but that's what STUFF is for. That's why I put my version ''here'' first, not on the page itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Because its annoying listening to acceptors accepting this fact based on "its kinda weird". The "nothing pleasent anyway" is meant to be a generic statement. They most likely didn't have anything in mind when they made it. There are other fun facts where the declines are overwhealming and people are still being rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****Dude...its a cartoon. No need to get so worked up, <s>especially because dot com is correct in observing that a. It is not exactly pleasent, b.people would actually find it amusing, unlike many a' fun fact and c. the declines already are winning.</s> --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****** Okay repeating what the other guy just said is not cool. Kay? If I wanted to re-read what Dot Com said I'd've just scrolled up. Save your finger wagging for if I ever break the rules. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******* What is wrong with agreeing with someone? But whatever..I am a noob here so I shall change what I said.--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******Whoa, Donny. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki:Welcoming_committee#Don.27t_Bite Don't bite] Go easy on the guy. Tony, don't change what you said because Donny yelled at you. If you ment it, keep it up there. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 18:17, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******* Its more for effect than me trying to antagonize someone. That, and I hate it when someone has to have their say, only to repeat what the last guy just said. Bah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' While this is a great fact, there is no appropriate place for it on the page. Possibly there will be in teh future, but now, it is sadly not so. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 2:47 PM May 14, 2005
*'''Decline''' It's just like saying "Googling the word 'virus' will bring up a picture of Tim Allen." It's extremely irrelevant. But it's still good for people to argue over. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch,GmbH|S-B,GmbH]]
**The difference is, whereas Strong Bad never searched for "virus", Strong Sad did actually mention using an internet search engine to fine "Blue Ones". Whether that makes this fact relevant I don't know, but it is actually fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*** But it still isn't relevent. Like I said, they didn't specify a search engine and the Frodo pic only shows up on Google. I'm not even sure why its interesting at all. "Blue ones" causes Frodo to come up '''because his eyes are blue'''. Its not weird. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****I hate it when someone has to have their say (''read:'' get in the last word), only to repeat what he himself has already said. Bah. --P810A
**** I hate it when someone whines about someone getting the last word, just to try and get the last word. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment.''' Donny, will you SHUT UP already?! We get it! You don't want this to be a Fun Fact! There's no sense in standing up and trying to persuade everyone. The purpose of a VOTE is that everyone can get their OWN idea in, NOT ONE PERSON'S. So "BACK OFF BABY." Decline it and then mind your own business.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I hate it when someone criticizes a noob for repeating and agreeing with another member, and then repeats his own point of view over and over again just in case we missed it the first few times. *ahem* -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Common Taters''' - I'm sorry, but will everyone PLEASE stop making a huge deal out of this? This has to be the most ridiculous argument I have ever seen in my entire 12 years of living. Really. I'm just going to get this back on topic for actual debating, if everyone is done bickering about nothing.
So, after some thinking, '''Weak Decline.''' This is very true, and also very strange, but it shouldn't really count as a fact, considering how you can just click on the link and already know what's on the page. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:40 PM, 21 May 2005

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".
*As the writer, I '''Accept''' it, but I put it here because I'm not sure if it's enough for a fun fact. I think the grammatical use of "whom" isn't exactly widely known, but some people might disagree. Also I'm not sure if it should go in Remarks or Explinations. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I know, I know, it's just a joke. I know, I know, not every joke requires an explanation. But speaking as a devoted silly fact slayer, I think this is worth a mention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Definetly depends on what section this is meant to go in. I would say remarks. '''Accept'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second. Which means accept. :P'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Few people know the rules of "who" and "whom" but it's still a grammatical error and therefore I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah its worth being there, though you might consider adding the fact that Strong Bad is famous for his anal-retentive attitudes on grammar yet he does not react to this common mistake. '''Accept''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is true and worthy of note...DELETED. That's what you thought I would say, right? Well, too bad. '''Accept''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I'm pretty sure TBC were under the impression that we should already know this, as that's the joke. No need for fun factization, it's pretty obvious. (to me at least)
** While most will realize that its wrong, they may not get WHY its wrong. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This may or may not have been intentional, and the fact that it's grammatically incorrect is obvious. No need state the obvious. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
**So if I walk up to the average guy on the street and ask "When should you gramatically use 'whom' rather than 'who' in a question?" he'd be able to tell me? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:30, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
***I would think so, yes. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
****Not everyone has the grasp of the English language that you do. In fact, the MAJORITY of people don't. :P [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I never noticed this. And the fact that Strong Bad did not criticize it makes it fun enough to be a fact. [[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 01:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined.''' This is a FUN fact? Maybe for an englilsh teacher, but not for me. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*''Accept/Comment'' Actually, it's quite the oppisite. An english teacher would think it's common sense.
*'''Accept''' It's true, and a lot of people don't understand when to use who vs. whom. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:16, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.
''Due to ballot stuffing, the entire vote will be restarted. All votes except Jay's (since this is Jay clearing everything) have been deleted, so we're starting with a fresh entry.''
*'''"I'm-a gonna accept."''' This is a good fact, or at least I think so. It should say something about a paniced scream about getting hurt, usually capatilized when they say it a 2nd time.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 18:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is becoming something of an edit war, and the poster who added it won't STOP adding it, so I'm putting it to the vote. Vote away, people. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*I stick by my '''Accept''' [[User talk:greg2point0|greg2point0]]
*<strike>'''Accept''' Just once this time =P [[User talk:Hawk-Eye-100|Hawk-Eye-100]] 3:49</strike> ''(This is the same user as the above vote. Check the History.)''
** {smack} That was the sound of my head hitting the keyboard. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* Jay, why are we even voting on this if its just the one guy who thinks it should be accepted? His cheating should've dis-qualified this fact from the get go. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
** To make a point, I suppose. He WASN'T STOPPING. He was even editing my "don't add this" note. I'm trying to take the higher ground here. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mere coincidence. And breaking the rules isn't cool. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:16 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Also comment that just because someone tried to cheat the vote doesn't mean the fact itself should be scrapped immediately, in my opinion. It should wait the two weeks from when the vote was restarted and considered unanimously declined (unless someone other than this cheater gives an accept vote of course). --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 11:47, 11 May 2005
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' IMHO, the '''four''' user names and ''two'' IP addresses involved in this incident should be banned permanently. This Wiki looks the way it does because the vast majority of the community follows the rules, both written and implied. Those who don't shouid not be welcome here (again IMHO). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and permaban the IP's. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meh, accept.'''(Upgraded vote: '''Meh, Very weak accpet.''') This guy's awfully devoted to getting his fact up, and it ''Italic text''is''Italic text'' true. Heck, I didn't even realize it until I read this. Anything that does so should work as a fun fact, no? So I don't see what's wrong with it but I think this should be in "remarks." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Sigh...TK, one guy does all the voices for the characters (Powered by The Cheat, Marzipan, and Teeg Dougland aside). Of course every once in awhile there is going to be similiar sounding dialouge. And just because a fact is true, doesn't make it fun. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
***Right. We could say "this is the first 'toon where Strong Bad tapes his head to the TV," and we wouldn't be wrong, but who cares? Anyway, I doubt that there's any real connection between these - they sound kinda similar, but that's it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Yeah, I guess...I'm going to demote my vote to '''Meh, very weak accept.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:39, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>I agree, it should go in "remarks". So '''Second'''. [[User:Supyall|Supyall]]</strike> ''(What is your deal? You can only vote once!)''
***Hmmmm. Where have I seen this user name before? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*We gave him repeated warnings and he's still breaking the rules. I say ban him. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Three-day suspension as of now. If he does it again it'll be indefinite. We warned him multiple times. Does he think we're stupid or something? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' - Dingell
*Whoever keeps putting this up, FYAD. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Dare I ask what that stands for? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*** ...you and die ;) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Oh. You learn something new every day, I guess... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Despite the chaox of this... Voting process, I say '''Accept'''. Could be a refferance...''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* As another mighty fun fact slayer said: Could be's are not cool. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll Accept your FACE!!''' to a bloody...pulp... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Not that it really matters, but is this an accept or decline?
*No no no no no! VERY small liason. VERY unlikely to be reference. VERY declined. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I wasn't going to step in, but considering the surprizing number of accept votes, I have to. This is coincidence people, nothing more. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.
*'''Now ''this'' fact is totally worth my time and consideration DECLINED!!''' Very, very different type of "one" being referred to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Seconded -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*Oh, for the love of...it's a ''word'' people! We're not here to keep taps on every time a character says something twice! '''Decline'''[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second'd!!!'''What he said--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Bupkis'd''' Ummm ... decline! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*If there were ever a candidate to be immediately '''Deleted''' (skipping the STUFF process), this is it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''And once again so as to make me sound like a broken record: Not everything is meant to refer to something else.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second this "one".''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What!? No! No!! No!!! I mean, no! Never! No! What? No!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and STFU. (I'm in a bad mood today, deal with it.) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
* Decline. No. Just--just no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:21, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Definitely the wrong kind of ones. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''EXTREMELY STRONG DECLINE''' no not at all. I'm right, your wrong
*'''Well, there's more than one One.... Declined...''' No->No->No. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 04:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE³''' This is the biggest stretch EVER! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''De-freakin'-cline''' What made you think that??? -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:45 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''Down with Declined...ding.''' There's no real correlation here, as everyone else pretty much said. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 02:46, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.
*'''Decline as written''' Is it? I'm not sure. But "in years" is unprofessional. If you can provide an actual time span - and be accurate - then maybe you've got something here... if said time span is impressive enough. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I put on my detective hat and had a look. The last eggless toon was [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], a month and a half ago. Before that was the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] 3 months ago. [[Under Construction]] and most of the [[Puppet Stuff]] is eggless. If it is rewritten "The first cartoon (except April Fools features and live action) ..." then the last was [[Ballad of The Sneak]], 10 and a half months ago. Discounting music videos too, the latest was [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], 13 months ago. '''In summary''' - as written it is false, and rewriting to make it even one year ago requires too many caveats to be interesting. '''Decline'''. Incidentally, the last eggless email was [[property of ones]], and I put that in its Trivia section. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**All right, that settles that. '''Second''' and this "fact" may as well be closed now. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Okay,''' how about "This cartoon contains no Easter eggs"? Or, better, put the Easter egg section up with "(none)" listed under it. That way, people don't have to wonder whether there were eggs but we somehow forgot to list them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
** '''Not necessary''' We don't do that for any OTHER egg-less toon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Why not?''' It would make them all more complete. Where's the harm? Besides, since people ''expect'' the eggs, it's news when there are none. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Possibly:
<pre> Unlike most recent cartoons featuring the Freecounty, USA characters,
this one contains no easter eggs. </pre> -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:56 May 10, 2005
*'''ATTENTION POSTERS ALL!!''' I think what the post-er was trying to say was that it was the first ''Big Toon'' in whatever years, so this needs a '''rewrite''', changing "cartoon" to "Big toon" or "toon." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 10 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' In which case the last was [[Where's The Cheat?]] in February 25, 2002. However there have been so few "Big Toons" that my previous comment about the sample space being too small to be interesting still holds. I stick by my decline. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If a toon doesn't have an egg, it doesn't have an egg. People are smart enough to figure that out if there aren't any listed on the Toon's wiki entry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*GUYS! He means BIG toon! And He's Right! But he needs to REwrite it! '''ACCEPT BUT REWRITE FIRST!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' My only question is: what is "fun" about this fact? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Absolutly nothing. Its just another example of Wiki members thinking we need to document every last worthless detail. And while I appreciate rewrites, they're a pain when you have to keep changing whats being rewritten as parts of the fact are picked apart.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite.''' As others have said before, it should be noted that this is the first ''Big'' Toon to contain no Easter eggs in over three years. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:21, 11 May 2005
*'''Neutral''' While I noticed this too, I also noticed that this is the only Big Cartoon that has no credits of any kind either. Makes an interesting remark on its own, but I don't know... --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 02:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*O.K...I made up my mind: '''Decline'''. Look people, you could also say that this is the first cartoon to feature Homestar naked in a long time, but would that make it any more "fun"? I think not. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Going back to the last toon thing...actually, the last long toon was [[Shopping for Danger]], if you want to talk most recently. The last toon featuring the H*R universe was [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]], last year. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** Not exactly - Shopping for Danger DID have an Easter Egg, and SBIIJ had extra scenes after "THE END" (some people count those as Easter Eggs, even though they're not listed as such in our articles). Not as though I'm defending this fact or anything, just trying to keep out own facts straight. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' We can't start keeping track of this kinda thing... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I'd cut out "first in years" and replace it with something like: "a rarity to have no easter eggs." -Walking Armless
**(Not a vote.) Exactly.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:42, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.
:''NOTE: We're voting on the CGNU portion, not the tiny portion.''
*<strike>'''Neutral''' The wording is very very poor, but I'll leave it to the vote. Y'no, if anyone cares about this page any more. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)</strike> Know what? I'm changing to '''Decline''' because, truth is, we really DON'T know that he's a CGNU graduate, and we don't really need the speculation. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*Bubs attends night classes at Disco Tech according to the [[Homestar Quiz]]. Perhaps they had a VCR repair course? Or maybe Bubs is just an unethical quack who tapes clocks to broken VCRs. It's possible that he went to CGNU, but since we don't know, I give it a '''Decline'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''So weak that its creepy decline''' GEEEEEEZZZZ OH PEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ! YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TOO HARD!! Oh yeah and the post above mine, I agree with that so I guess this is kind of a '''second,''' too. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' Ohhhh, people with way too much, time on their hands, doo doo doo! [[User:DancingRobots| DancingRobots]]
*So because among Bubs's fake (I assume) buisness cards, there is one that says "Dr" Bubs, we assume he probably has a doctorate in something? He didn't just make it up and shove it on a card? Bubs Normal Investigator is also apparantly not affiliated with Bubs Paranormal Investigator, does that mean we should make a fun fact that Bubs must have multiple personalities, or there are several Bubs's or something? Of course not. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''. You see, the joke is, in the e-mail [[CGNU]], Strong Bad is offering classes in TV/VCR Repair. Bubs could have gotten his certificate. Obviously the paranormal/normal investigator is an independant joke, not relevant here. I think the idea of Bubs attending a Strong Bad class is funny enough to keep it. And to those that say he didnt neccesarily go to CGNU, I ask you this: What other school in the H*R universe has TV/VCR Repair classes? He MUST have gone to CGNU, because it is the only school. I rest my case. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 01:25, 13 May 2005
** Right. We know that. But we KNOW that Bubs tried to repair a VCR in [[12:00]]. We DON'T know that Bubs is a CGNU graduate. Without this knowledge, this is nothing more than speculation about a common use of a couple of common words. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Exactly how "Common" is "TV/VCR Repair"? I havent used that phrase in real life, ever. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** So you've NEVER seen an infomercial? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** ''(on the edit)'' We can't answer the "which school" because the only one we know about is CGNU - but that doesn't mean it's the only school! And we don't know Bubs went to ANY school for VCR repair. And just because you think it's funny, that's no reason to keep it in and of itself. And, BTW, was it necessary to change the title of this fact (formerly "See Gee In Bubs")? Yours makes it look too similar to vvv that one. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**It seems to me that the CGNU thing and Bubs' business cards both refer to the same real-life observation -- a lot of ads for sketchy correspondance schools prominently advertise "TV/VCR Repair" as a "major". So this is not referencing CGNU, it's just referencing a general occurrence. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:22, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*What does "See Gee In Bubs" mean anyway??? I don't get it. "Dr. Bubs" makes it clear that we are questioning his Dr. Bubs business card. "See Gee In Bubs"... doesnt mean anything to me. Please explain. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**[[mascot|See Gee In You]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**OHHH Now I get it. I was reading it too literally. Well, change it back if you want. Its a wiki. Maybe make it "CNG - bUbs" --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 03:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.
*So weak a connection. I thought I would '''Decline''' it! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*I '''accept''' it, certainly. [[User:Cookiecaper|Cookiecaper]] 23:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dr. Decline''' And why? There's no connection except the word "Doctor" and Bubs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 23:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Shut up kid!''' Nah, Homestar is just being silly. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Upon further consideration, this reference is awfully weak. [[User:SilverSurfer|SilverSurfer]]
*'''Decline''' Everything is a reference to everything these days, eh? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24 10 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Even if it's not an intentional reference, it's a good catch! - Dingell
** Uh... if it's not intentional then it's not a reference. And, as thus, the "fact" is not. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I shoulda '''declined''' this like a million years ago! [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* I was the person who wrote this fun fact. It was what I thought of when I saw the toon, but I understand that the connection is quite weak. Actually, I'm a little surprised no one said anything about the "could be" in there. Anyway, since most of you feel the same way, I cheerfully withdraw the fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could be's aren't usually good anyway. I'm gonna say no and hit it with a little '''uh digga digga digga digga digga digga digga DECLINED!''' -- SBEmail22
**'''Second''' -[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".
*'''Decline''' This is another case of thinking a similar joke on the same phenomenon is the origin of the joke itself. "My stories" is simply how some people refer to the soap operas they watch. Heck, George Carlin makes reference to that in an album from the '70s, and that's not the origin either -- it's just that sweet English language in action again. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 12:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deliciously Declined''' And I'm glad someone saw fit to remove the "fact" stating the stories gag was a Simpsons reference. C'mon folks, not every little detail in the HR universe is derived from something else. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding those above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When someone refers to a TV show as a story, they're talking about a soap opera. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:41 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 20:18, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delteated!''' STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING again, ain't we? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you were to mention all the things this [http://www.google.com/search?q=grandma+%22watching+her+stories%22 could have come from] then we'd get a TTATOT. And while finding out what the origin of this phrase was would be good, it's probably not going to happen, and it's almost certainly not this. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's just a common saying among grandmas, like "gar-bazhe" among moms. My grandma is always referring to TV shows as "stories" - Dingell
*MAY BE != IS. '''DECLINE''' *exhales* [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED. [[User: James Craven|James Craven]]

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

*'''Accept''', If 'likely' is changed to 'possibly'. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** They're still forms of the phrase "may be". '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*Or it could be Masterpiece Theater. Who knows... who cares? Too much speculation. '''Decline, old boy''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Good thinkin there. -- Dingell
*Naaaahhhhh '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment''' If I remember correctly, I think [[The Announcer]] has a British accent. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:06, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Nothing more than speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Dacline.''' I see wut you're saying, but the Caleb Rentpayer sounds more of a soap then something Public Television would view (although EVERYTHING is technically "public television" I am referring to channels like PBS, as I think SB was). I think the show SB is talking about was probably a documentary hosted by a british guy (which PBS is chock-full of.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' We're not talking about Caleb Rentpayer, we're talking about the show Strong SAD is watching... [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:08, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination.''' No connection. Next! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

*'''Decline''' Why oh why someone thought this was trivia boggles the mind. There is nothing to this "fact". She raised an eyebrow, whoopdie do. Trivia implies that someone will actually find the information interesting, nobody cares about facial expressions unless it somehow reveals something about the character (in the case of Strong Bad, it'd show that he actually has eyebrows). This just encourages the posting of worthless facts. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Then again, have we ever seen Marzipan have eyebrows?
**If you watch her character video and the SB is in Jail Cartoon you can see her eyebrows when she makes her angry face. However, we're talking about a cartoon with characters sans arms and that has a guy with a wrestling mask for a head and boxing gloves for hands. Eyebrows aren't a concern. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' [[some kinda robot|Some kinda robot]] marks the first time we see Strong Bad using a computer. So what? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept''' Lately, TBC seem to be adding new facial expressions to the characters on a regular basis (like SB's sarcastic look in "long pants"). It might be worth it to point them out. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:33, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''accept''' New facial expressions happen once in a while and it's interesting to note when it happens. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Strong Decline''' Why not add 'This is the first time we see Senor Cardage talk to Strong Sad' or 'This is the first time Coach Z buys something from Strong Bad' too? --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 9:30 14 May, 2005
*Accept Sure, why not. It's worth adding. *shrug* [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:25, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Srong Accept'''come one peoples (prenounced 'pee-oe-puhls') this is the first time we have evidence of Marzipan having eyebrows period, up until this she was like my friend Jeff who had no eyebrows--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline.''' When Garfield makes a new expression in that comic strip of his, it's not something I write up in my diary. "Ooo, Garfield made a kind of a smirk, but he was wiggling his ear at the same time! I never saw that before. I wonder what he was thinking?"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:38, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

*'''NO'D!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nay''' [[User:71.110.2.216|71.110.2.216]] 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:08, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. There's nothing more to say. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''hahahaha NO''' Like I said, check your frickin facts! --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]]
**'''SECOND.''' Absolutely not the case![[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:38, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nooo, no no no no. Decline.''' - Nuh uh! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:34 PM, 23 May 2005

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

*'''Accept.''' Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' Garage sales aren't in garages. They're called garage sales because one usually sells the old junk that's been sitting in one's garage. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Utterly useless fun fact. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''--[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 18:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' And I've seen a yard sale in a garage too. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:27, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Garage sale, yard sale, they can be used interchangably. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''. Garage sale is a colloquialism. It doesn't mean that the sale has to happen ''in'' the garage. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' The garage sales I've seen actually take place in garages. I won't be sad though if this fact gets voted down. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' What he said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 04:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:21, May 8 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 9:50, May 12 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this obvious, but also the term "garage sale" is a blanket term, and doesn't necessarily imply the sale is inside a garage. From [http://www.webster.com Webster.com]:
::Main Entry: '''garage sale''' 
::Function: noun
:: a sale of used household or personal articles (as furniture, tools, or clothing) held on the seller's own premises - [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the other declines! Talk about a waste of valuable mission time! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' You're being way too literal, seriously. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 19:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Fun facts are, by definition, fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:30, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with modifier''' Since the place is the field where the "garage sale" takes place, it could be even part of a flea market. --[[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:42 ET 12 May 2005.
*'''Decline''' We use the term Band-Aid even when the bandage is a different brand, and we use the term garage sale even when they're not in a garage. Also it seems unlikely that Strong Bad's house would have a garage because we've never seen any of the brothers Strong with a car and thus the only reason he called it a garage sale was because the email said "garage sale".[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And then the Decline smote the Useless funfact, and all the land was laid to sanity...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 05:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't think he's neccessarily making fun of it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline'''I see where you're going with this, which is kidna the problem. It's a little obvious and pointless[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''TrogDecline!'''Were you just looking for a fact to STUFF or something? -Walking Armless

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''You're missing the point!!''' We already know that it's based on G.I. Joe! The whole point is that Matt is imitating the voice of Cobra Commander, but not his voice actor. Accepting this fact is like saying "If you imitate the voice of Homestar, then you are imitating/referencing/making-fun-of Matt Chapman because he is the voice actor." If three other people add to my '''Decline''', we can get The Eggman to close this fact and put it out of its misery. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 14:44, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
(UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005
*Umm, this looks like a winner. --

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Definitely a ''Diff'rent Strokes'' reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' TBC does like to be silly with their names, such as their Bill Bellamy schoolbell. While the bell is a specific reference, I'm sure any name with "bell" would have worked. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline- I have no idea what you are talking about.''' --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept''' but change to "only FEMALE anglerfish..."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 22:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.
*'''Decline=Very Yes.''' Aunt Gert Alert! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline No it's because of the over 400,000 viruses. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''All right Edgar, drop a Decline on 'em!''' - No, Bubs' belt is slightly darker than the grass if you look close enough. It's the viruses, that's all. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:19 PM, 21 May 2005

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
====Peacy Prize====
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bushes====
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[privileges]]===
====Freatmagic Kids!====
"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2005-05-23T06:58:00Z

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on, we simply do not know the intentions of the e-mails authors. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***Its implied bro, thus my "veiled insults" comment earlier. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:08 AM, 22 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].
*''Moved in here because it's a 'might be'.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, i'm sorry. The correct answer, was Declined.''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I'm not that worked-up about this one. He would probably have typed Raffi if he meant to refer to Raffi. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:53, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''decline''' Don't like the "might be" (never do) but this one at least is plausible. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*"Might be" and "obscure" don't work for me, sorry. Although it has a small likeliness, I doubt it. '''Decline.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Accept''' because seriously I gotta accept ''one'' of these things, right? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:19, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dee-clined.''' Doesn't seem like any sort of referance to Raffi. It seems like too big of a stretch. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:55 AM, 21 May 2005

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.
*''Moved in here because it's a 'might be'.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete crappy facts outright! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I speculate that this fun fact might be declined...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' though there was a roller coaster like that in Wildwood there are other 'circle coasters' out there [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' No no no. There are rides like this all over. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - Strikes me as speculation and that usually doesn't make a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:02, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Freaky D'clined''' - Nope. Sorry. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:02 AM, May 21, 2005

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

*'''Decleated! I mean, Da Cheated! I mean Del Taco!''' Actually, I've ridden on a roller coaster type thing (called "The Loop") in which the only track was a circle (Shaped like this > '''O'''). But, we unfortunately ''didn't'' catch fire. *Sigh.* [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*Decline I saw on once called the ring of fire. No one passed out. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Second: Revise, Decline...oVG2?:''' Talk to my man with the isometric formula and the Roller Coaster Tycoon! (Yes, Shockwave, a coaster in one of them Six Flaggie parks, has TWO loops.) -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:01, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Though most loops nowadays are tear-shaped, there are some roller coasters with circular loops. The intensity of the ride boasts a more thrilling coaster. The only real concern with circular loops is that there's a greater chance of riders falling out at the top, but that can be avoided if proper safety measures are taken. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:26, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' These exist, I think. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' I've been on roller coasters like that so they ''do'' exist. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' I first rode on a looping rolly-coaster in 1977. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declone''' If the info is wrong, then the fact isn't a fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll decline YOUR fun fact, my lord!''' I've been waiting all day to use that one. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:49, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[do over]]===

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

*This is a generic sentence that I've heard plenty of times outside Weezer songs - I've left it on do over in case, though.
*Uh, no. No it's not. Turn off geekdar. It's haywire. '''Dolores!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:27, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' are we seriously voting for this? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE''' It's things like THIS that we need to purge STUFF from. Someone had reentered this "fun fact," and I didn't know it was in STUFF. But it looked so stupid, I just deleted it on the spot. That's what should have been done here. C'mon people, while some facts are good to STUFF, like the "Family Guy" one below, others are better off disappearing. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 12:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is only interesting in that the author attempted to atttribute the reference to a band other than TMBG! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Holy crap, no''' That's a very common phrase. Get this so-called fun fact out of my SIGHT. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:03, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondated!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is absurd.''' This is ''not'' how STUFF was meant to work. This page is for those facts that fall in that gray area of "maybe good, maybe not." It's not for ''this'' kind of nonsense. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Um, I dunno what that MEANS! And you're still DECLINED!''' *cough* yup. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, it's not. (declined)''' 21:58 17 May 2005
*'''Yeah, shut up kid kthx''' Keep crap off kthx. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:11, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Are you some sort of Declined Brew?''' Absurd loose music reference. No. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:33, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*Common pharse '''Declined'''' [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''DEE-CLAAAANE!'''What?! Are you kidding? Everybody knows "Falling for you" is just a common phrase. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's a common phrase. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' 'Nuff said. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline!''' What everyone else said. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:58 AM, 21 May 2005

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.
*THIS was in the remarks it seams useless to me don't change it is in the remarks on the page for DO OVER allred this is just caliging it
*'''Decline''' First, sign your posts. Second, although I do think this is mildly interesting, it is not enough to really merit a fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline The angle and force at which the drum is struck can affect it somewhat as well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' Homestar has no arms invisible or otherwise. Quit saying that he does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' because your geekdar's broken. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''revise''' eliminate the second sentence completely. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Decline''' as it is false. If you hit the centre of a drum it gives a low pitch, but hitting the edge of a drum gives a higher pitch. Plus things like how hard you hit the drum, as mentioned above. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 11:38, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Seriously, have you nothing better to do than speculate as to how percussion works for people whose arms actully aren't there? Get a life.
*'''Second Fizz's Post.''' And I'm sure if it was eliminated in the first place, most of the people who have said "Dacline" would have probably voted "Accept." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:20, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not me. '''Decline''' [[user: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 22:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCORPTED!!!'''Some revision wouldn't hurt but it's pretty good as is.[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' - [http://darthno.ytmnd.com/ Darth Vader summarizes my feelings]; just doesn't seem that noteworthy. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

*'''Accept-erson''' I actually saw Family Guy the night before this email was released and I thought about it as a watched this email. And considering the fact that [[TBC]] make updates (in this case, the new email) late Sunday night or early Monday morning (usually), it is a possibility. I mean, TBC seem like the kinda funny dudes who watch those kind of shows, like me. 8-P [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd think this would have been in the works for awhile. But, I did read in one of the interviews that they stick jokes in at the last minute. Still, I think it's a stretch. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I was just about to say that! Given the timing and Homestar's comment about being "jingly" ("tell me that doesn't sound like camp town races!") make me believe it. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!!!''' I'm willing to chalk this one up to coincidence without some more solid evidence (okay, okay, I didn't watch it, but it SOUNDS like it's the sort of thing I'd normally call a coincidence.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:24, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' As soon as I saw this, I immediately thought Family Guy, the timing is way too much of a coincedence, and the Brothers do e-mails on Sundays usually, especially since this one wasnt even up until later today, rather than early in the morning like usual. The brothers seem like the type who would watch Family Guy too. --[[User:Dex|Dex]] 21:28, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I would count this as a very bizzare coincidence...while it may be a reference, I doubt that TBC would have much time to put it in, and if they did if they cared so much...besides, TBC is not especially known to steal jokes from other shows. Reference them maybe, but it was essentially the same joke. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Accept.''' <s>I haven't made up my mind.</s> Although, if all the coins were ''nickels'', then it would be more clear-cut... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' and a minor '''rewrite'''-or at least a couple of fixes while I'm looking at it. I saw the same episode, and it seems like a reference to me. The timing's too good to make it unlikely. As for the rewrite, just stick 'aired' after 'episode' (doesn't sound right to me without it) and replace 'where' with 'in which' And Griffin has two Fs. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 23:25, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**Since these changes don't affect the substance of the fact, we'd might as well go ahead and make them.
*Accept You theif!!! I wanted to say this. Oh well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Why do you people think that TBC would reference the show, considering that the majority of Homestarrunner.com does not contain references to other pop culture shows and their jokes, especially not to the extent of stealing a joke. (after all it seems that the joke was not so much a reference as a direct steal if it was)....
**To the person who didn't sign their name: Uh... let me see here, Cheat Commandos is a huge reference to G.I. Joe, which was part of pop culture and is still a well-known character/franchise, Bug In Mouth Disease alludes to Dallas, pizzaz makes a Seinfeld reference, montage makes a big Rocky reference. As such, I have to disagree when you say HSR makes no references to pop culture. Granted, some of the many are no longer in pop culture, and some are dated, but one cannot say that there are no pop culture references. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 01:55, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
***Sorry about that, I forgot to hit the ~s. Now I was not saying that Homestarrunner.com never makes pop culture references...There are dozens, as TBC are big into pop culture in general. All I am saying is that the examples listed above parody or make fun of or at least ellaborate on pop culture. Not so with the alleged Family Guy reference. That seems to be (a) Not anywhere near as obvious as the others and (b) pretty much the same joke that Family Guy used. I personally would assume that TBC would be original enough to make up their own jokes, not use others, and I think there is a large difference in referencing and stealing the entire joke. Besides, I doubt they had enough time to anyway. I still think it is a coincidence. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
***On the other hand, it was posted one day after the episode aired, which is why I accepted this when I would normally decline --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* In ''The Dilbert Future'' by Scott Adams, Scott has a chapter where he talks about ideas, and how sometimes they can come off as not-original. He wrote a chapter about security cameras in public places and when he turned on his T.V there was a report on the exact same thing. He wrote a comic with a joke about a fake opera singer called "Placebo Domingo" and when he opened his newspaper there was a comic with the same exact joke. I guess what I'm saying is...its a coincidence. Don't be so quick to accept just because of that. This one should never have been STUFF'D, just deleted. '''Decline from school''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' This one makes sense, and we all know that TBC will do last minute edits to make it even funnier. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 04:09, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**But other than the fact that Homestar eats change, is there anything less...coincidental tying it to Family Guy?
**Yes, the fact that this sbemail was posted the day after that episode aired. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
** Yeah, nice to know you read my reply on COINCIDENCES. Because its likely just a COINCIDENCE do you have any other connections beyond, "it was posted the day after the Family Guy episode". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**No but I'm not changing my vote and there's nothing ou can do about it. :D --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Sorry, everybody who declined this, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with this fun fact. '''Strong Accept.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::Please don't tell people that there is nothing wrong with this. They have their own opinion, and that is okay. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
*I know I already voted, but this sounds too coincidental. The timing and the similar (but apparently not identical) jokes are the only connection anyone has brought forth - and that's not really enough for me. It's possible, I suppose, but usually the "could bes" of the Wiki get near-unanimous declines. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' I say we add something around "It's coincidental that a day before this email came out, Peter Griffin tried to eat coins in an episode of Family Guy." in "Remarks". →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
**That might make a bit more sense as a fun fact, but it still lacks any "funness" or "factitude" in my opinion. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''STRONG ACCEPT''' I watched family guy on sunday, and when I saw the e-mail it made me think in an instant- I think that's a reference to Family Guy. [[User:im_a_evil_wizard|im_a_evil_wizard]] 20:36, 17 May 2005 (ETC)
**I actually thought the exact same thing when I watched this toon on monday. However, despite my early instincts, logically the "reference" would not make sense to me, as listed above -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Considering this email came out the day after the new Family Guy aired and it contained a very similar gag (even though Homestar didn't go blind from nickel poisoning), I'd say there's a good chance that this was an intentional reference. Family Guy seems like the type of show TBC would watch. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:44, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept so strong you'd think there were two of them''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:40, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' Even if it is a coincidence, it's a good fun fact. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** If its a coincidence then there is no reason to list it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Good thing it's not a coincidence --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** How can you be so sure? (oh, and when responded to a bulleted fact, use multiple stars instead of colons. It's easier to respond that way (you MUST use colons to respond to a colon-starred fact or it looks terrible), and the spacing is off if you use colons.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:45, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Usually when there's a pop culture reference, it's supposed to be what makes the joke funny. But this joke is funny on its own. It's actually less funny when I think about it being a reference, because like a bunch of other people said, it wouldn't be parodying, it would be stealing. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Accept.''' It wouldn't be stealing. It would be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage homage]-ing. [[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept''' I was thinking the same thing, but I thought it was a coincedence until I read in an intereveiw that they make the emails on Sunday. Now we just need Homestar to go blind. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
* Okay look, if the e-mail had been posted a week or more after the Family Guy episode, this wouldn't even be an issue, it would've just been shrugged off as a similiar gag and not a reference. TBC are not stupid nor do they blindly rip gags off from other people. The fact that the e-mail aired so close to the FG episode only adds to the evidence that its a coincidence. Family Guy isn't the only cartoon or show to have characters eating change (an episode of the Simpsons had Bart eating change). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Incredibly Strong Accept''' I think this is completely true. Maybe I will second Jay. But I don't think I watched that night, which ep was it of FG? --[[Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:02, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm gonna say ACCEPT''' - Makes sense to me. I like that episode too! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*All right, I'm 90% sure that most of this is because you like Family Guy, not because there's a real connection. The timing is probably nothing more than a coincidence, and from my understanding, the joke is only vaguely similar. EVERY OTHER REFERENCE BAR NONE that goes through STUFF needs a solid connection or it gets near-unanimous declines, but that solid connection is curiously absent here. Why accept this fact? I can't see why! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. I just don't see it. Other than the fact that it involved coinage being eaten, I just don't see any similarity between the two incidents --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*To everyone who wants more evidence: In the Family Guy episode the previous night, there were a couple of jokes about the coins jingling in Peter's stomach, and Homestar makes a very similar jingling noise after eating the coins. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 10:13, 22 May 2005
**Uh, that was already a part of the fact and adds nothing to this discussion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Nor does it add any weight to the evidence that the two jokes are connected. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*I agree with Jay. I think you guys are trying to make a connections where there is none, simply because you want it. I don't think TBC would be cheap enough to steal a joke from Family Guy. I, too, enjoy FG. I enjoy it enough to realize that both Seth Mcfarlane and TBC are original enough to not copy eachother in some sort of "homage".... - [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**It's not a stolen joke or a borrowed one, it's a reference. Sort of like TBC saying "Hi, we like your show" --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** If it IS based on FG, then it's a stolen joke, because they don't give any credit of any sort to the original - including SOLID references (like the type I've been asking for since my vote!). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:29, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Since when was did any of the referrences(anywhere on HR) get mentioned in the credits? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***** You're taking the word too literally. I mean that the references make some mention that can easily be tied to something else that makes the reference (relatively) clear - the name of the character on the Halloween costume is revealed, an exact line of dialogue is replicated, the name of an establishment is thrown into conversation, etc. Where's the tie here? It's a similar joke that could stand on its own without Family Guy having ever used the same joke. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:06, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***** For me it was the coins jingling inside homestar they way they did inside peter. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
****** But that's still just part of the similar joke that could easily stand on its own without FG having ever done the joke. It's not solid. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:21, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
******The point is we do have probable cause to believe this. I suppose it could be revised to say it was posted the day after a very similar joke on family guy aired, and that wether this was a wink at Seth Mcfarline, is unknown. That much is clearly true. --02:52, 23 May 2005 (UTC)~
******* We have just as much reason to accept this as "Get Back Loretta" and you Declined that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:55, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*******I obviously feel the reasoning provided is sufficient and much better than on that one, or I would have declined this one. I didn't however. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*******The only "reasoning" supplied has just given weight to the argument that this is a coincidence. Once again, the fact that the toons aired so close to each other, the fact that TBC DO NOT rip off jokes directly from other people (instead using more subtle references like in the Halloween toons), and that the jokes are not identical only help to show that its a coincidence. Nobody has given reasoning beyond the close air date. THAT is why people are so opposed to this one. And to the person who said the coin jingling noises were similiar: Get a bunch of coins together. Jingle them. Sound familier? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*******Apparently more are not opposed to it, then opposed. All you're argueing is "cus I said so". --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I vote against. Similar jokes, yes. But not enough to consider one a referance to the other. '''Decline''' --[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 22:41, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

*'''Decline''' And computer keyboards are useless to people with boxing gloves for hands. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline'''. So? Also, how is a laser gun useless to someone with no hands? I don't see a trigger on it or anything, it could be linked directly into his nerves... Just point and think. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Apparently you've never heard of megaman. :)
*'''Decline, and I hate you get out''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and fun facts are useless unless they are "fun" or even "interesting" --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' When you have nothing nice to say about a fun fact ... -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' pointless, useless and I think this qualifies as an opinion instead of a fact. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Witty H*R-related phrase involving the word 'Second'''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:42, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
***Who gives a holy crap? Why wasn't this just DELETED? '''DECLINE!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:17, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh really? I thought most people played the guitar with their faces! Hah, how silly of m-DELETED!! 220317May
**Jimi Hendrix did... --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:13, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' "I DON'T WANT TO EAT A GUITAR!" "You're not eating it... you're shredding some hot licks... with your teeth." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:54, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's true, and, yeah, I hadn't thought of that, but it's kinda "eh."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:25, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, and I hate you too''' - Enough said. Really. This hardly qualifies as a usable fact, for god's sake. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:49 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Revise, Accept'd''' Say something more like:
<pre>Stong Bad wanted to have a lazor gun and a guitar for hands but there is no way he could play
the guitar or fire the gun without hands.</pre> --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Even then I think this fact is sort of pointless. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:55, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declorn'd!''' I think someone ELSE could play guitar, like coach z or something. Since your hand is a lazor gun, you can fire it yourself! I mean, the lazor gun WOULD be part of you. It's exactly like saying your hands have no use! --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:02, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

*'''All is Off...Decline it Decline It!''' I'm sorry. I just don't see any connection whatsoever except for the fact that they both are music. If someone can see any resemblance, I'll change my vote. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
**'''SECOND'D'D'D'D'D'''--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' because you contradict yourself in your very next sentence. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a generic parody of crappy compilation CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*erm...no. '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' No sir, I don't like it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yo declino''' For the reasons stated above [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' How? Just because the rest of the email involves children? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 20:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second:''' Never thought of anything else when I saw the CD. Never even thought of Kidz Bop. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Remove the part about the CD-spine. That's random, lame, and belongs somewhere else.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declinedified!''' It was only made for the name of the email person, All-is-on! It was just a coincidence. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

*'''Decline.''' We have the Appearances section on pages for items, characters, etc. to give information like this. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Besides, its not like the Pom Pilot is a item that appears in most cartoons, so I wouldn't think it would be that interesting anyway --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Yeah, I'd have to agree with this.... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because... ehh... because. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Already listed elsewhere. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' So, how else are you supposed to hang a link to the Pom Pilot in the article? I don't think we're supposed to put links in the transcript. The only other time that the Pom Pilot is mentioned is in Goofs. I guess you could put it there, but I don't really like that. Maybe we need a Props listing under the Cast listing (just an idea). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:06, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 04:58, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

*'''Must...deny...funfact!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>Revise The evidence shown is convincing, but it may still be a coincidence. If you can show a little more I'll accept.</strike>Since you failed to revise, Decline--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' The fact that this one actually contains the phrases "this '''may be''' and '''stretch'''ing things" should disqualify it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*<strike>Comment It still might be true. The "emerson" and "tark" things are convincing, he just needs to add a little more proof.</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*4 letters out of 26 can't convince me.[[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::*<strike>Hence why I said he needs more proof</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
:*And somehow I'm still not seeing it. Besides, he probably called him Emerson because adding "erson" onto someone's name is a HR running gag. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*According to this --> [[Names ending in -erson]] you are correct, <strike>it still could be a double gag though. However, I'm not accepting it yet anyway. As I said, he needs to give more proof. </strike>--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*'''Comment''' Although that is true, it was not a running gag at the time because this is the first appearance of it.
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes an -erson joke is just an -erson joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinexord''' Emerson is also a company that makes sinks and dishwashers, not to mention that Emerson is a real last name. Who knows where they were going? And who cares? -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

*No... it really doesn't. It's a joke. '''3-Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 04:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**Agreed. '''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Really?! I never got it till now! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declinerween, Declinerween, You're 55 million light years from Accepterween!''' (in sarcastic voice) I'm absolutely stunned. I never noticed this! Whoever posted this fun fact should be like, a professor at like Harvard, or CGNU, man! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline''' - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' ..........What? [[User:The_Pardack|The_pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' <shatner> I... dontunderstand. </shatner> --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline with an iron fist.''' That doesn't even make sense. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:30, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a bronze fist.''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I can't tell who's really being sarcastic and who's not, I think it's obvious if you just think about it for all of three seconds. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 06:26, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You! Obey the Decline Fist!''' Or at least Rewrite so I know what you're talking about. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:53 AM 21 May 2005

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

*'''Weak Accept''' I'm not sure if this is really worth pointing out but hey... it's true. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline''' True, but pointless. These should be ''fun'' facts, right? [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' The same could be said for the ending of Rock Opera. Remember, they're supposed to be "Fun facts" not "lets nit pick every little detail facts". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Accept This would make a good remark, yes. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Just as long as it's listed as a Fun Fact and not a Goof, I find it okay. It's not a Goof simply because he could be lip syncing and not really making any vocal sound. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, he's there. No, he's not singing. Yes, this phone is plugged in. We can tell that he's not singing by looking at him. Not fun in the least. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declome.''' Everyone's there, whether they want to sing or not. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch, GmbH|S-B, GmbH]]
*'''Decline''' And he isn't singing so... there isn't a problem... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''!d'enilceD''' Yeah, a lot of those people weren't even singing.
* And what about Pom Pom? All he can do is burble. Its just not worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This goes without saying. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral.''' Both sides make some pretty good points. -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:43, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Yeah, that's a good fact. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===

====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I'd really like to know why people have such a problem with this fact. It's true... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' It's not that it's wrong, it's just not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' No, he was running so fast that you couldn't see it. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' I noticed this too, but never thought to add it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Sorcended!!! I mean, second'd'''--[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Second''' Running so fast you couldn't see it my eye! --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''(Almost) Accept''' The aid of flashbooklets helps on this one. But I'm not really sure if it needs to be noted. To be honest, I checked for the bug before I read this, so it might be valid. --[[User:weirdguy|weirdguy]]
*'''Accept'''. I noticed this, and thought it was funny... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:13, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' So?? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 16:12, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's true. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:33, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*The pessemist that I am I attempted to discover exactly how and why this fact was false. I watched it several times over and tried to come up with some rationale for how the bug does not show up. In the end though I have to say that this is true, and it is interesting enough to stay '''Accept'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:58, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.
*'''Accept.''' We have links to IHOP. Why not Dairy Queen? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:35, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Also links to Sonic, Winn-Dixie, Hardee's, Sbarro, Del Taco, Chick-fil-A, and Big Boy. I'm sure there are more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' You'd be surprised what some people don't know. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' sure, why not? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:47, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' DQ is no McDonald's or Subway, (there's only one in my town!) and you have to admit it's an interesting nickname. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This fact is fine, particularly because I'm not sure all parts of the country (not to mention other countries) have Dairy Queens. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:14, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Good with me. Continue, brave Fun Facter! -Walking Armless
*'''Cool Cool (aka accept)''' I WENT TO DQ YESTERDAY!!! --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'Tis True Pom Pom, 'Tis True, so '''Accept!''' -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:51 PM, 21 May 2005

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment
*Trogga's pushing it again. '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Sure, why not, if it's true. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline''' A very common phrase that's a tad too obvious. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't know it. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:32, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Most poeple should know what a quack is... and if you don't i'm sorry --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:52, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept'''. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Weak Decline''' It's true, but it's common knowlage--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).
*'''Accept.''' I don't know why (maybe it's the goofy picture), but I find this very funny. And I think it's relevant enough to Strong Sad's online search to merit inclusion under either the Trivia or Remarks section. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:09, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not particularly relevant to H*R, I'm afraid. Though it IS kinda weird. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 18:51, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''The Second Ones''' --[[User: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:40, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''I realize that.''' But it was just so... I dunno, ''bizarre.'' I didn't originate this fact myself; I noticed it while backtracking through the page's history, and it struck me as funny enough to be shared. I can already sense that this fact won't make the cut, but at least it will have a short life here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Intriguing as it may be, this simply isn't the place for it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:02, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Probably referring to his eyes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This ranks right down there with Aunt Gert. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**It might not be good enough for the article, but it's not as bad as ''that''.
* Sigh, you people just don't get it, do you. FUN. FACT. This is the only fact I've seen in a while that really fits that term. And what don't you get about it? Isn't it SLIGHTLY coincidential that Strong Sad said that he searched for the blue ones and found something kind od disturbing (he didn't exactly say it, but you know that's what he meant.)? I think this would be perfect for a Fun Fact...for now. If this gets taken off google then the Fun Fact should be dropped (even changing it to say "at one point" would make it lose its luster.) Oh, I never actually voted, did I. '''Accept, at least for now.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:19, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Calm down Mr "I know the real Foofoo Grass". People are declining it because its not RELEVENT not because its not interesting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept'''. This is actually one of the more intreguing Fun Facts I have ever seen (and one of the only ones I really actually persued cause it intregued me). I say let it on. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All other arguments aside, this fun fact doesn't work because it's temporary. Eventually, some other (more search-relevant) pictures will replace the Ellijah Wood photo and this won’t make sense. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Indeed. '''Second'''. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:43, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' They never actually say that Strong Sad searched Google, but I think it can be safely inferred, in which case I think this is one awesomely fun fact. I think it's also safe to assume that TBC did the search and knew what it was that they were indirectly referencing... and even if they didn't, I think it's worth recording, since future fans will likely be curious as to what was on the other side of the "blue ones" search when the toon was released. It should be revised, however, to say "At the approximate time that the toon was released..." since the search result is almost certain to change relatively soon. - Dingell
**'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**But that doesn't prove they were talking about the Elijah Wood image. And curious future users? Who cares? What, we're going to list everything an image search for "Blue Ones" will bring up? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I think it's a funny coincidence. I don't think TBC had it in mind, but it's an interesting observation. It should at least be put on the discussion page of Bug In Mouth Disease for people to see. And as said before, that picture won't always come up on a google image search for "blue ones", so it should be edited to "At the time this toon first came out..." --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**** But WHY would the Elijah Wood pic have to be singled out? Nobody has given one good reason as to why beyond "its interesting". Thats not a reason, thats an opinion. This fact has no place on the wiki. If people are curious, let them do their own image search. Or better yet, just post a link to google's results for "blue ones" and we can be done with this damned fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****I have *yet* to figure out why this is so fascinating to people. If you page through the results, there's a picture of girls in bikinis. Personally, I think that's *far* more interesting, but I ain't writin' a fun fact about it! Maybe there's some kinda Frodo-voodoo thang goin' on here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:04, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
******It's fascinating because many people like "strange but true" facts, especially considering (A) you wouldn't expect to find the picture using that particular search, (B) it's almost the very first result, (C) Elijah Wood is well known, and (D) the picture is kinda creepy. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:48, 12 May 2005 (UTC) — ''P.S.'' That bikini picture wasn't nearly worth the effort to find it. What a tease.
*******However, a picture of girls in bikinis would be better attributed to fact that Strong Sad got "nothing pleasant" [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 19:39, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' The picture in question could be uploaded to the wiki. Then, it wouldn't matter whether the original eventually wasn't on the first page of Google's results, because we could just link to our copy.
**No! NO! Stop it! Back off! Back the F*** off! IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COMES UP ON THE "BLUE ONES" GOOGLE SEARCH. THEY WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT ELIJAH WOOD. Whats worse, if you do image searches at Lycos.com or Altavista.com the Frodo pic? Doesn't come up. Sorry, "being sort of weird" doesn't entitle the fact to be placed on the Wiki. And NOBODY has answered my question for why this is relevent to the toon other than "It came up with the google search".[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Why are you yelling? The last I checked, the declines outnumber the accepts nearly 2 to 1; there's no real danger that this fact will make it to the page. Even if the opposite were true, we can still discuss these matters civilly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***To speak to your specific question, somebody out there (not me) wondered what Strong Sad would have found (if Strong Sad were real) when he searched for "blue ones". The Elijah Wood picture was what he or she found and, being sufficiently strange, qualified as "nothing pleasant" to this unknown originator and to at least a few of us as well. It's a tenuous link, perhaps, but that's what STUFF is for. That's why I put my version ''here'' first, not on the page itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Because its annoying listening to acceptors accepting this fact based on "its kinda weird". The "nothing pleasent anyway" is meant to be a generic statement. They most likely didn't have anything in mind when they made it. There are other fun facts where the declines are overwhealming and people are still being rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****Dude...its a cartoon. No need to get so worked up, <s>especially because dot com is correct in observing that a. It is not exactly pleasent, b.people would actually find it amusing, unlike many a' fun fact and c. the declines already are winning.</s> --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****** Okay repeating what the other guy just said is not cool. Kay? If I wanted to re-read what Dot Com said I'd've just scrolled up. Save your finger wagging for if I ever break the rules. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******* What is wrong with agreeing with someone? But whatever..I am a noob here so I shall change what I said.--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******Whoa, Donny. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki:Welcoming_committee#Don.27t_Bite Don't bite] Go easy on the guy. Tony, don't change what you said because Donny yelled at you. If you ment it, keep it up there. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 18:17, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******* Its more for effect than me trying to antagonize someone. That, and I hate it when someone has to have their say, only to repeat what the last guy just said. Bah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' While this is a great fact, there is no appropriate place for it on the page. Possibly there will be in teh future, but now, it is sadly not so. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 2:47 PM May 14, 2005
*'''Decline''' It's just like saying "Googling the word 'virus' will bring up a picture of Tim Allen." It's extremely irrelevant. But it's still good for people to argue over. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch,GmbH|S-B,GmbH]]
**The difference is, whereas Strong Bad never searched for "virus", Strong Sad did actually mention using an internet search engine to fine "Blue Ones". Whether that makes this fact relevant I don't know, but it is actually fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*** But it still isn't relevent. Like I said, they didn't specify a search engine and the Frodo pic only shows up on Google. I'm not even sure why its interesting at all. "Blue ones" causes Frodo to come up '''because his eyes are blue'''. Its not weird. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****I hate it when someone has to have their say (''read:'' get in the last word), only to repeat what he himself has already said. Bah. --P810A
**** I hate it when someone whines about someone getting the last word, just to try and get the last word. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment.''' Donny, will you SHUT UP already?! We get it! You don't want this to be a Fun Fact! There's no sense in standing up and trying to persuade everyone. The purpose of a VOTE is that everyone can get their OWN idea in, NOT ONE PERSON'S. So "BACK OFF BABY." Decline it and then mind your own business.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I hate it when someone criticizes a noob for repeating and agreeing with another member, and then repeats his own point of view over and over again just in case we missed it the first few times. *ahem* -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Common Taters''' - I'm sorry, but will everyone PLEASE stop making a huge deal out of this? This has to be the most ridiculous argument I have ever seen in my entire 12 years of living. Really. I'm just going to get this back on topic for actual debating, if everyone is done bickering about nothing.
So, after some thinking, '''Weak Decline.''' This is very true, and also very strange, but it shouldn't really count as a fact, considering how you can just click on the link and already know what's on the page. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:40 PM, 21 May 2005

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".
*As the writer, I '''Accept''' it, but I put it here because I'm not sure if it's enough for a fun fact. I think the grammatical use of "whom" isn't exactly widely known, but some people might disagree. Also I'm not sure if it should go in Remarks or Explinations. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I know, I know, it's just a joke. I know, I know, not every joke requires an explanation. But speaking as a devoted silly fact slayer, I think this is worth a mention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Definetly depends on what section this is meant to go in. I would say remarks. '''Accept'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second. Which means accept. :P'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Few people know the rules of "who" and "whom" but it's still a grammatical error and therefore I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah its worth being there, though you might consider adding the fact that Strong Bad is famous for his anal-retentive attitudes on grammar yet he does not react to this common mistake. '''Accept''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is true and worthy of note...DELETED. That's what you thought I would say, right? Well, too bad. '''Accept''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I'm pretty sure TBC were under the impression that we should already know this, as that's the joke. No need for fun factization, it's pretty obvious. (to me at least)
** While most will realize that its wrong, they may not get WHY its wrong. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This may or may not have been intentional, and the fact that it's grammatically incorrect is obvious. No need state the obvious. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
**So if I walk up to the average guy on the street and ask "When should you gramatically use 'whom' rather than 'who' in a question?" he'd be able to tell me? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:30, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
***I would think so, yes. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
****Not everyone has the grasp of the English language that you do. In fact, the MAJORITY of people don't. :P [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I never noticed this. And the fact that Strong Bad did not criticize it makes it fun enough to be a fact. [[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 01:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined.''' This is a FUN fact? Maybe for an englilsh teacher, but not for me. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*''Accept/Comment'' Actually, it's quite the oppisite. An english teacher would think it's common sense.
*'''Accept''' It's true, and a lot of people don't understand when to use who vs. whom. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:16, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.
''Due to ballot stuffing, the entire vote will be restarted. All votes except Jay's (since this is Jay clearing everything) have been deleted, so we're starting with a fresh entry.''
*'''"I'm-a gonna accept."''' This is a good fact, or at least I think so. It should say something about a paniced scream about getting hurt, usually capatilized when they say it a 2nd time.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 18:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is becoming something of an edit war, and the poster who added it won't STOP adding it, so I'm putting it to the vote. Vote away, people. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*I stick by my '''Accept''' [[User talk:greg2point0|greg2point0]]
*<strike>'''Accept''' Just once this time =P [[User talk:Hawk-Eye-100|Hawk-Eye-100]] 3:49</strike> ''(This is the same user as the above vote. Check the History.)''
** {smack} That was the sound of my head hitting the keyboard. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* Jay, why are we even voting on this if its just the one guy who thinks it should be accepted? His cheating should've dis-qualified this fact from the get go. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
** To make a point, I suppose. He WASN'T STOPPING. He was even editing my "don't add this" note. I'm trying to take the higher ground here. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mere coincidence. And breaking the rules isn't cool. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:16 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Also comment that just because someone tried to cheat the vote doesn't mean the fact itself should be scrapped immediately, in my opinion. It should wait the two weeks from when the vote was restarted and considered unanimously declined (unless someone other than this cheater gives an accept vote of course). --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 11:47, 11 May 2005
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' IMHO, the '''four''' user names and ''two'' IP addresses involved in this incident should be banned permanently. This Wiki looks the way it does because the vast majority of the community follows the rules, both written and implied. Those who don't shouid not be welcome here (again IMHO). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and permaban the IP's. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meh, accept.'''(Upgraded vote: '''Meh, Very weak accpet.''') This guy's awfully devoted to getting his fact up, and it ''Italic text''is''Italic text'' true. Heck, I didn't even realize it until I read this. Anything that does so should work as a fun fact, no? So I don't see what's wrong with it but I think this should be in "remarks." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Sigh...TK, one guy does all the voices for the characters (Powered by The Cheat, Marzipan, and Teeg Dougland aside). Of course every once in awhile there is going to be similiar sounding dialouge. And just because a fact is true, doesn't make it fun. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
***Right. We could say "this is the first 'toon where Strong Bad tapes his head to the TV," and we wouldn't be wrong, but who cares? Anyway, I doubt that there's any real connection between these - they sound kinda similar, but that's it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Yeah, I guess...I'm going to demote my vote to '''Meh, very weak accept.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:39, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>I agree, it should go in "remarks". So '''Second'''. [[User:Supyall|Supyall]]</strike> ''(What is your deal? You can only vote once!)''
***Hmmmm. Where have I seen this user name before? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*We gave him repeated warnings and he's still breaking the rules. I say ban him. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Three-day suspension as of now. If he does it again it'll be indefinite. We warned him multiple times. Does he think we're stupid or something? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' - Dingell
*Whoever keeps putting this up, FYAD. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Dare I ask what that stands for? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*** ...you and die ;) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Oh. You learn something new every day, I guess... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Despite the chaox of this... Voting process, I say '''Accept'''. Could be a refferance...''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* As another mighty fun fact slayer said: Could be's are not cool. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll Accept your FACE!!''' to a bloody...pulp... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Not that it really matters, but is this an accept or decline?
*No no no no no! VERY small liason. VERY unlikely to be reference. VERY declined. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I wasn't going to step in, but considering the surprizing number of accept votes, I have to. This is coincidence people, nothing more. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.
*'''Now ''this'' fact is totally worth my time and consideration DECLINED!!''' Very, very different type of "one" being referred to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Seconded -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*Oh, for the love of...it's a ''word'' people! We're not here to keep taps on every time a character says something twice! '''Decline'''[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second'd!!!'''What he said--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Bupkis'd''' Ummm ... decline! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*If there were ever a candidate to be immediately '''Deleted''' (skipping the STUFF process), this is it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''And once again so as to make me sound like a broken record: Not everything is meant to refer to something else.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second this "one".''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What!? No! No!! No!!! I mean, no! Never! No! What? No!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and STFU. (I'm in a bad mood today, deal with it.) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
* Decline. No. Just--just no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:21, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Definitely the wrong kind of ones. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''EXTREMELY STRONG DECLINE''' no not at all. I'm right, your wrong
*'''Well, there's more than one One.... Declined...''' No->No->No. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 04:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE³''' This is the biggest stretch EVER! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''De-freakin'-cline''' What made you think that??? -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:45 PM, 21 May 2005

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.
*'''Decline as written''' Is it? I'm not sure. But "in years" is unprofessional. If you can provide an actual time span - and be accurate - then maybe you've got something here... if said time span is impressive enough. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I put on my detective hat and had a look. The last eggless toon was [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], a month and a half ago. Before that was the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] 3 months ago. [[Under Construction]] and most of the [[Puppet Stuff]] is eggless. If it is rewritten "The first cartoon (except April Fools features and live action) ..." then the last was [[Ballad of The Sneak]], 10 and a half months ago. Discounting music videos too, the latest was [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], 13 months ago. '''In summary''' - as written it is false, and rewriting to make it even one year ago requires too many caveats to be interesting. '''Decline'''. Incidentally, the last eggless email was [[property of ones]], and I put that in its Trivia section. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**All right, that settles that. '''Second''' and this "fact" may as well be closed now. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Okay,''' how about "This cartoon contains no Easter eggs"? Or, better, put the Easter egg section up with "(none)" listed under it. That way, people don't have to wonder whether there were eggs but we somehow forgot to list them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
** '''Not necessary''' We don't do that for any OTHER egg-less toon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Why not?''' It would make them all more complete. Where's the harm? Besides, since people ''expect'' the eggs, it's news when there are none. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Possibly:
<pre> Unlike most recent cartoons featuring the Freecounty, USA characters,
this one contains no easter eggs. </pre> -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:56 May 10, 2005
*'''ATTENTION POSTERS ALL!!''' I think what the post-er was trying to say was that it was the first ''Big Toon'' in whatever years, so this needs a '''rewrite''', changing "cartoon" to "Big toon" or "toon." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 10 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' In which case the last was [[Where's The Cheat?]] in February 25, 2002. However there have been so few "Big Toons" that my previous comment about the sample space being too small to be interesting still holds. I stick by my decline. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If a toon doesn't have an egg, it doesn't have an egg. People are smart enough to figure that out if there aren't any listed on the Toon's wiki entry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*GUYS! He means BIG toon! And He's Right! But he needs to REwrite it! '''ACCEPT BUT REWRITE FIRST!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' My only question is: what is "fun" about this fact? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Absolutly nothing. Its just another example of Wiki members thinking we need to document every last worthless detail. And while I appreciate rewrites, they're a pain when you have to keep changing whats being rewritten as parts of the fact are picked apart.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite.''' As others have said before, it should be noted that this is the first ''Big'' Toon to contain no Easter eggs in over three years. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:21, 11 May 2005
*'''Neutral''' While I noticed this too, I also noticed that this is the only Big Cartoon that has no credits of any kind either. Makes an interesting remark on its own, but I don't know... --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 02:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*O.K...I made up my mind: '''Decline'''. Look people, you could also say that this is the first cartoon to feature Homestar naked in a long time, but would that make it any more "fun"? I think not. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Going back to the last toon thing...actually, the last long toon was [[Shopping for Danger]], if you want to talk most recently. The last toon featuring the H*R universe was [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]], last year. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** Not exactly - Shopping for Danger DID have an Easter Egg, and SBIIJ had extra scenes after "THE END" (some people count those as Easter Eggs, even though they're not listed as such in our articles). Not as though I'm defending this fact or anything, just trying to keep out own facts straight. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' We can't start keeping track of this kinda thing... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I'd cut out "first in years" and replace it with something like: "a rarity to have no easter eggs." -Walking Armless
**(Not a vote.) Exactly.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:42, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.
:''NOTE: We're voting on the CGNU portion, not the tiny portion.''
*<strike>'''Neutral''' The wording is very very poor, but I'll leave it to the vote. Y'no, if anyone cares about this page any more. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)</strike> Know what? I'm changing to '''Decline''' because, truth is, we really DON'T know that he's a CGNU graduate, and we don't really need the speculation. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*Bubs attends night classes at Disco Tech according to the [[Homestar Quiz]]. Perhaps they had a VCR repair course? Or maybe Bubs is just an unethical quack who tapes clocks to broken VCRs. It's possible that he went to CGNU, but since we don't know, I give it a '''Decline'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''So weak that its creepy decline''' GEEEEEEZZZZ OH PEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ! YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TOO HARD!! Oh yeah and the post above mine, I agree with that so I guess this is kind of a '''second,''' too. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' Ohhhh, people with way too much, time on their hands, doo doo doo! [[User:DancingRobots| DancingRobots]]
*So because among Bubs's fake (I assume) buisness cards, there is one that says "Dr" Bubs, we assume he probably has a doctorate in something? He didn't just make it up and shove it on a card? Bubs Normal Investigator is also apparantly not affiliated with Bubs Paranormal Investigator, does that mean we should make a fun fact that Bubs must have multiple personalities, or there are several Bubs's or something? Of course not. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''. You see, the joke is, in the e-mail [[CGNU]], Strong Bad is offering classes in TV/VCR Repair. Bubs could have gotten his certificate. Obviously the paranormal/normal investigator is an independant joke, not relevant here. I think the idea of Bubs attending a Strong Bad class is funny enough to keep it. And to those that say he didnt neccesarily go to CGNU, I ask you this: What other school in the H*R universe has TV/VCR Repair classes? He MUST have gone to CGNU, because it is the only school. I rest my case. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 01:25, 13 May 2005
** Right. We know that. But we KNOW that Bubs tried to repair a VCR in [[12:00]]. We DON'T know that Bubs is a CGNU graduate. Without this knowledge, this is nothing more than speculation about a common use of a couple of common words. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Exactly how "Common" is "TV/VCR Repair"? I havent used that phrase in real life, ever. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** So you've NEVER seen an infomercial? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** ''(on the edit)'' We can't answer the "which school" because the only one we know about is CGNU - but that doesn't mean it's the only school! And we don't know Bubs went to ANY school for VCR repair. And just because you think it's funny, that's no reason to keep it in and of itself. And, BTW, was it necessary to change the title of this fact (formerly "See Gee In Bubs")? Yours makes it look too similar to vvv that one. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**It seems to me that the CGNU thing and Bubs' business cards both refer to the same real-life observation -- a lot of ads for sketchy correspondance schools prominently advertise "TV/VCR Repair" as a "major". So this is not referencing CGNU, it's just referencing a general occurrence. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:22, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*What does "See Gee In Bubs" mean anyway??? I don't get it. "Dr. Bubs" makes it clear that we are questioning his Dr. Bubs business card. "See Gee In Bubs"... doesnt mean anything to me. Please explain. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**[[mascot|See Gee In You]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**OHHH Now I get it. I was reading it too literally. Well, change it back if you want. Its a wiki. Maybe make it "CNG - bUbs" --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 03:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.
*So weak a connection. I thought I would '''Decline''' it! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*I '''accept''' it, certainly. [[User:Cookiecaper|Cookiecaper]] 23:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dr. Decline''' And why? There's no connection except the word "Doctor" and Bubs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 23:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Shut up kid!''' Nah, Homestar is just being silly. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Upon further consideration, this reference is awfully weak. [[User:SilverSurfer|SilverSurfer]]
*'''Decline''' Everything is a reference to everything these days, eh? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24 10 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Even if it's not an intentional reference, it's a good catch! - Dingell
** Uh... if it's not intentional then it's not a reference. And, as thus, the "fact" is not. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I shoulda '''declined''' this like a million years ago! [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* I was the person who wrote this fun fact. It was what I thought of when I saw the toon, but I understand that the connection is quite weak. Actually, I'm a little surprised no one said anything about the "could be" in there. Anyway, since most of you feel the same way, I cheerfully withdraw the fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could be's aren't usually good anyway. I'm gonna say no and hit it with a little '''uh digga digga digga digga digga digga digga DECLINED!''' -- SBEmail22
**'''Second''' -[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".
*'''Decline''' This is another case of thinking a similar joke on the same phenomenon is the origin of the joke itself. "My stories" is simply how some people refer to the soap operas they watch. Heck, George Carlin makes reference to that in an album from the '70s, and that's not the origin either -- it's just that sweet English language in action again. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 12:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deliciously Declined''' And I'm glad someone saw fit to remove the "fact" stating the stories gag was a Simpsons reference. C'mon folks, not every little detail in the HR universe is derived from something else. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding those above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When someone refers to a TV show as a story, they're talking about a soap opera. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:41 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 20:18, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delteated!''' STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING again, ain't we? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you were to mention all the things this [http://www.google.com/search?q=grandma+%22watching+her+stories%22 could have come from] then we'd get a TTATOT. And while finding out what the origin of this phrase was would be good, it's probably not going to happen, and it's almost certainly not this. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's just a common saying among grandmas, like "gar-bazhe" among moms. My grandma is always referring to TV shows as "stories" - Dingell
*MAY BE != IS. '''DECLINE''' *exhales* [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED. [[User: James Craven|James Craven]]

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

*'''Accept''', If 'likely' is changed to 'possibly'. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** They're still forms of the phrase "may be". '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*Or it could be Masterpiece Theater. Who knows... who cares? Too much speculation. '''Decline, old boy''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Good thinkin there. -- Dingell
*Naaaahhhhh '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment''' If I remember correctly, I think [[The Announcer]] has a British accent. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:06, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Nothing more than speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Dacline.''' I see wut you're saying, but the Caleb Rentpayer sounds more of a soap then something Public Television would view (although EVERYTHING is technically "public television" I am referring to channels like PBS, as I think SB was). I think the show SB is talking about was probably a documentary hosted by a british guy (which PBS is chock-full of.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' We're not talking about Caleb Rentpayer, we're talking about the show Strong SAD is watching... [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:08, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination.''' No connection. Next! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

*'''Decline''' Why oh why someone thought this was trivia boggles the mind. There is nothing to this "fact". She raised an eyebrow, whoopdie do. Trivia implies that someone will actually find the information interesting, nobody cares about facial expressions unless it somehow reveals something about the character (in the case of Strong Bad, it'd show that he actually has eyebrows). This just encourages the posting of worthless facts. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Then again, have we ever seen Marzipan have eyebrows?
**If you watch her character video and the SB is in Jail Cartoon you can see her eyebrows when she makes her angry face. However, we're talking about a cartoon with characters sans arms and that has a guy with a wrestling mask for a head and boxing gloves for hands. Eyebrows aren't a concern. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' [[some kinda robot|Some kinda robot]] marks the first time we see Strong Bad using a computer. So what? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept''' Lately, TBC seem to be adding new facial expressions to the characters on a regular basis (like SB's sarcastic look in "long pants"). It might be worth it to point them out. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:33, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''accept''' New facial expressions happen once in a while and it's interesting to note when it happens. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Strong Decline''' Why not add 'This is the first time we see Senor Cardage talk to Strong Sad' or 'This is the first time Coach Z buys something from Strong Bad' too? --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 9:30 14 May, 2005
*Accept Sure, why not. It's worth adding. *shrug* [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:25, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Srong Accept'''come one peoples (prenounced 'pee-oe-puhls') this is the first time we have evidence of Marzipan having eyebrows period, up until this she was like my friend Jeff who had no eyebrows--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

*'''NO'D!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nay''' [[User:71.110.2.216|71.110.2.216]] 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:08, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. There's nothing more to say. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''hahahaha NO''' Like I said, check your frickin facts! --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]]
**'''SECOND.''' Absolutely not the case![[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:38, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

*'''Accept.''' Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' Garage sales aren't in garages. They're called garage sales because one usually sells the old junk that's been sitting in one's garage. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Utterly useless fun fact. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''--[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 18:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' And I've seen a yard sale in a garage too. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:27, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Garage sale, yard sale, they can be used interchangably. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''. Garage sale is a colloquialism. It doesn't mean that the sale has to happen ''in'' the garage. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' The garage sales I've seen actually take place in garages. I won't be sad though if this fact gets voted down. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' What he said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 04:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:21, May 8 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 9:50, May 12 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this obvious, but also the term "garage sale" is a blanket term, and doesn't necessarily imply the sale is inside a garage. From [http://www.webster.com Webster.com]:
::Main Entry: '''garage sale''' 
::Function: noun
:: a sale of used household or personal articles (as furniture, tools, or clothing) held on the seller's own premises - [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the other declines! Talk about a waste of valuable mission time! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' You're being way too literal, seriously. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 19:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Fun facts are, by definition, fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:30, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with modifier''' Since the place is the field where the "garage sale" takes place, it could be even part of a flea market. --[[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:42 ET 12 May 2005.
*'''Decline''' We use the term Band-Aid even when the bandage is a different brand, and we use the term garage sale even when they're not in a garage. Also it seems unlikely that Strong Bad's house would have a garage because we've never seen any of the brothers Strong with a car and thus the only reason he called it a garage sale was because the email said "garage sale".[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And then the Decline smote the Useless funfact, and all the land was laid to sanity...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 05:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't think he's neccessarily making fun of it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline'''I see where you're going with this, which is kidna the problem. It's a little obvious and pointless[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''You're missing the point!!''' We already know that it's based on G.I. Joe! The whole point is that Matt is imitating the voice of Cobra Commander, but not his voice actor. Accepting this fact is like saying "If you imitate the voice of Homestar, then you are imitating/referencing/making-fun-of Matt Chapman because he is the voice actor." If three other people add to my '''Decline''', we can get The Eggman to close this fact and put it out of its misery. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 14:44, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
====Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F====
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fun fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined''' by a score of 4-12. Discussion moved to [[Talk:trevor the vampire]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:34, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
(UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====limozeen====
Limozeen: But they're in space is almost a direct reference to the flopped saturday morning show Josie and the Pussy Cats in space.

'''Verdict:''' A fact very much like this went through the STUFF process and was '''Declined'''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:57, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:33, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====Face the Camera====
This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally The Brothers Chaps keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Definitely a ''Diff'rent Strokes'' reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' TBC does like to be silly with their names, such as their Bill Bellamy schoolbell. While the bell is a specific reference, I'm sure any name with "bell" would have worked. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.
*'''Decline=Very Yes.''' Aunt Gert Alert! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline No it's because of the over 400,000 viruses. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''All right Edgar, drop a Decline on 'em!''' - No, Bubs' belt is slightly darker than the grass if you look close enough. It's the viruses, that's all. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:19 PM, 21 May 2005

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
===Peacy Prize===
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===Bushes===
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

====Rose Blake====
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:07, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Stlunko====
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:08, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2005-05-23T06:48:03Z

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***I think theres enough evidence that democracy is not 100% infallible. And guy, you're the one doing the insulting for no reason whatsoever. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone a brat. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I'm not calling you a spoiled brat just yet, just pointing out what one acts like. If you see similarity with your own behavior to that, then stop. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:08 AM, 22 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].
*''Moved in here because it's a 'might be'.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, i'm sorry. The correct answer, was Declined.''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I'm not that worked-up about this one. He would probably have typed Raffi if he meant to refer to Raffi. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:53, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''decline''' Don't like the "might be" (never do) but this one at least is plausible. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*"Might be" and "obscure" don't work for me, sorry. Although it has a small likeliness, I doubt it. '''Decline.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Accept''' because seriously I gotta accept ''one'' of these things, right? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:19, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dee-clined.''' Doesn't seem like any sort of referance to Raffi. It seems like too big of a stretch. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:55 AM, 21 May 2005

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.
*''Moved in here because it's a 'might be'.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete crappy facts outright! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I speculate that this fun fact might be declined...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' though there was a roller coaster like that in Wildwood there are other 'circle coasters' out there [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' No no no. There are rides like this all over. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - Strikes me as speculation and that usually doesn't make a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:02, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Freaky D'clined''' - Nope. Sorry. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:02 AM, May 21, 2005

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

*'''Decleated! I mean, Da Cheated! I mean Del Taco!''' Actually, I've ridden on a roller coaster type thing (called "The Loop") in which the only track was a circle (Shaped like this > '''O'''). But, we unfortunately ''didn't'' catch fire. *Sigh.* [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*Decline I saw on once called the ring of fire. No one passed out. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Second: Revise, Decline...oVG2?:''' Talk to my man with the isometric formula and the Roller Coaster Tycoon! (Yes, Shockwave, a coaster in one of them Six Flaggie parks, has TWO loops.) -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:01, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Though most loops nowadays are tear-shaped, there are some roller coasters with circular loops. The intensity of the ride boasts a more thrilling coaster. The only real concern with circular loops is that there's a greater chance of riders falling out at the top, but that can be avoided if proper safety measures are taken. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:26, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' These exist, I think. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' I've been on roller coasters like that so they ''do'' exist. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' I first rode on a looping rolly-coaster in 1977. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declone''' If the info is wrong, then the fact isn't a fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll decline YOUR fun fact, my lord!''' I've been waiting all day to use that one. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:49, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[do over]]===

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

*This is a generic sentence that I've heard plenty of times outside Weezer songs - I've left it on do over in case, though.
*Uh, no. No it's not. Turn off geekdar. It's haywire. '''Dolores!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:27, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' are we seriously voting for this? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE''' It's things like THIS that we need to purge STUFF from. Someone had reentered this "fun fact," and I didn't know it was in STUFF. But it looked so stupid, I just deleted it on the spot. That's what should have been done here. C'mon people, while some facts are good to STUFF, like the "Family Guy" one below, others are better off disappearing. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 12:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is only interesting in that the author attempted to atttribute the reference to a band other than TMBG! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Holy crap, no''' That's a very common phrase. Get this so-called fun fact out of my SIGHT. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:03, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondated!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is absurd.''' This is ''not'' how STUFF was meant to work. This page is for those facts that fall in that gray area of "maybe good, maybe not." It's not for ''this'' kind of nonsense. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Um, I dunno what that MEANS! And you're still DECLINED!''' *cough* yup. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, it's not. (declined)''' 21:58 17 May 2005
*'''Yeah, shut up kid kthx''' Keep crap off kthx. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:11, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Are you some sort of Declined Brew?''' Absurd loose music reference. No. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:33, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*Common pharse '''Declined'''' [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''DEE-CLAAAANE!'''What?! Are you kidding? Everybody knows "Falling for you" is just a common phrase. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's a common phrase. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' 'Nuff said. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline!''' What everyone else said. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:58 AM, 21 May 2005

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.
*THIS was in the remarks it seams useless to me don't change it is in the remarks on the page for DO OVER allred this is just caliging it
*'''Decline''' First, sign your posts. Second, although I do think this is mildly interesting, it is not enough to really merit a fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline The angle and force at which the drum is struck can affect it somewhat as well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' Homestar has no arms invisible or otherwise. Quit saying that he does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' because your geekdar's broken. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''revise''' eliminate the second sentence completely. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Decline''' as it is false. If you hit the centre of a drum it gives a low pitch, but hitting the edge of a drum gives a higher pitch. Plus things like how hard you hit the drum, as mentioned above. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 11:38, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Seriously, have you nothing better to do than speculate as to how percussion works for people whose arms actully aren't there? Get a life.
*'''Second Fizz's Post.''' And I'm sure if it was eliminated in the first place, most of the people who have said "Dacline" would have probably voted "Accept." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:20, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not me. '''Decline''' [[user: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 22:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCORPTED!!!'''Some revision wouldn't hurt but it's pretty good as is.[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' - [http://darthno.ytmnd.com/ Darth Vader summarizes my feelings]; just doesn't seem that noteworthy. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

*'''Accept-erson''' I actually saw Family Guy the night before this email was released and I thought about it as a watched this email. And considering the fact that [[TBC]] make updates (in this case, the new email) late Sunday night or early Monday morning (usually), it is a possibility. I mean, TBC seem like the kinda funny dudes who watch those kind of shows, like me. 8-P [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd think this would have been in the works for awhile. But, I did read in one of the interviews that they stick jokes in at the last minute. Still, I think it's a stretch. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I was just about to say that! Given the timing and Homestar's comment about being "jingly" ("tell me that doesn't sound like camp town races!") make me believe it. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!!!''' I'm willing to chalk this one up to coincidence without some more solid evidence (okay, okay, I didn't watch it, but it SOUNDS like it's the sort of thing I'd normally call a coincidence.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:24, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' As soon as I saw this, I immediately thought Family Guy, the timing is way too much of a coincedence, and the Brothers do e-mails on Sundays usually, especially since this one wasnt even up until later today, rather than early in the morning like usual. The brothers seem like the type who would watch Family Guy too. --[[User:Dex|Dex]] 21:28, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I would count this as a very bizzare coincidence...while it may be a reference, I doubt that TBC would have much time to put it in, and if they did if they cared so much...besides, TBC is not especially known to steal jokes from other shows. Reference them maybe, but it was essentially the same joke. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Accept.''' <s>I haven't made up my mind.</s> Although, if all the coins were ''nickels'', then it would be more clear-cut... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' and a minor '''rewrite'''-or at least a couple of fixes while I'm looking at it. I saw the same episode, and it seems like a reference to me. The timing's too good to make it unlikely. As for the rewrite, just stick 'aired' after 'episode' (doesn't sound right to me without it) and replace 'where' with 'in which' And Griffin has two Fs. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 23:25, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**Since these changes don't affect the substance of the fact, we'd might as well go ahead and make them.
*Accept You theif!!! I wanted to say this. Oh well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Why do you people think that TBC would reference the show, considering that the majority of Homestarrunner.com does not contain references to other pop culture shows and their jokes, especially not to the extent of stealing a joke. (after all it seems that the joke was not so much a reference as a direct steal if it was)....
**To the person who didn't sign their name: Uh... let me see here, Cheat Commandos is a huge reference to G.I. Joe, which was part of pop culture and is still a well-known character/franchise, Bug In Mouth Disease alludes to Dallas, pizzaz makes a Seinfeld reference, montage makes a big Rocky reference. As such, I have to disagree when you say HSR makes no references to pop culture. Granted, some of the many are no longer in pop culture, and some are dated, but one cannot say that there are no pop culture references. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 01:55, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
***Sorry about that, I forgot to hit the ~s. Now I was not saying that Homestarrunner.com never makes pop culture references...There are dozens, as TBC are big into pop culture in general. All I am saying is that the examples listed above parody or make fun of or at least ellaborate on pop culture. Not so with the alleged Family Guy reference. That seems to be (a) Not anywhere near as obvious as the others and (b) pretty much the same joke that Family Guy used. I personally would assume that TBC would be original enough to make up their own jokes, not use others, and I think there is a large difference in referencing and stealing the entire joke. Besides, I doubt they had enough time to anyway. I still think it is a coincidence. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
***On the other hand, it was posted one day after the episode aired, which is why I accepted this when I would normally decline --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* In ''The Dilbert Future'' by Scott Adams, Scott has a chapter where he talks about ideas, and how sometimes they can come off as not-original. He wrote a chapter about security cameras in public places and when he turned on his T.V there was a report on the exact same thing. He wrote a comic with a joke about a fake opera singer called "Placebo Domingo" and when he opened his newspaper there was a comic with the same exact joke. I guess what I'm saying is...its a coincidence. Don't be so quick to accept just because of that. This one should never have been STUFF'D, just deleted. '''Decline from school''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' This one makes sense, and we all know that TBC will do last minute edits to make it even funnier. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 04:09, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**But other than the fact that Homestar eats change, is there anything less...coincidental tying it to Family Guy?
**Yes, the fact that this sbemail was posted the day after that episode aired. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
** Yeah, nice to know you read my reply on COINCIDENCES. Because its likely just a COINCIDENCE do you have any other connections beyond, "it was posted the day after the Family Guy episode". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**No but I'm not changing my vote and there's nothing ou can do about it. :D --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Sorry, everybody who declined this, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with this fun fact. '''Strong Accept.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::Please don't tell people that there is nothing wrong with this. They have their own opinion, and that is okay. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
*I know I already voted, but this sounds too coincidental. The timing and the similar (but apparently not identical) jokes are the only connection anyone has brought forth - and that's not really enough for me. It's possible, I suppose, but usually the "could bes" of the Wiki get near-unanimous declines. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' I say we add something around "It's coincidental that a day before this email came out, Peter Griffin tried to eat coins in an episode of Family Guy." in "Remarks". →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
**That might make a bit more sense as a fun fact, but it still lacks any "funness" or "factitude" in my opinion. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''STRONG ACCEPT''' I watched family guy on sunday, and when I saw the e-mail it made me think in an instant- I think that's a reference to Family Guy. [[User:im_a_evil_wizard|im_a_evil_wizard]] 20:36, 17 May 2005 (ETC)
**I actually thought the exact same thing when I watched this toon on monday. However, despite my early instincts, logically the "reference" would not make sense to me, as listed above -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Considering this email came out the day after the new Family Guy aired and it contained a very similar gag (even though Homestar didn't go blind from nickel poisoning), I'd say there's a good chance that this was an intentional reference. Family Guy seems like the type of show TBC would watch. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:44, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept so strong you'd think there were two of them''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:40, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' Even if it is a coincidence, it's a good fun fact. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** If its a coincidence then there is no reason to list it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Good thing it's not a coincidence --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** How can you be so sure? (oh, and when responded to a bulleted fact, use multiple stars instead of colons. It's easier to respond that way (you MUST use colons to respond to a colon-starred fact or it looks terrible), and the spacing is off if you use colons.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:45, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Usually when there's a pop culture reference, it's supposed to be what makes the joke funny. But this joke is funny on its own. It's actually less funny when I think about it being a reference, because like a bunch of other people said, it wouldn't be parodying, it would be stealing. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Accept.''' It wouldn't be stealing. It would be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage homage]-ing. [[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept''' I was thinking the same thing, but I thought it was a coincedence until I read in an intereveiw that they make the emails on Sunday. Now we just need Homestar to go blind. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
* Okay look, if the e-mail had been posted a week or more after the Family Guy episode, this wouldn't even be an issue, it would've just been shrugged off as a similiar gag and not a reference. TBC are not stupid nor do they blindly rip gags off from other people. The fact that the e-mail aired so close to the FG episode only adds to the evidence that its a coincidence. Family Guy isn't the only cartoon or show to have characters eating change (an episode of the Simpsons had Bart eating change). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Incredibly Strong Accept''' I think this is completely true. Maybe I will second Jay. But I don't think I watched that night, which ep was it of FG? --[[Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:02, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm gonna say ACCEPT''' - Makes sense to me. I like that episode too! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*All right, I'm 90% sure that most of this is because you like Family Guy, not because there's a real connection. The timing is probably nothing more than a coincidence, and from my understanding, the joke is only vaguely similar. EVERY OTHER REFERENCE BAR NONE that goes through STUFF needs a solid connection or it gets near-unanimous declines, but that solid connection is curiously absent here. Why accept this fact? I can't see why! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. I just don't see it. Other than the fact that it involved coinage being eaten, I just don't see any similarity between the two incidents --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*To everyone who wants more evidence: In the Family Guy episode the previous night, there were a couple of jokes about the coins jingling in Peter's stomach, and Homestar makes a very similar jingling noise after eating the coins. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 10:13, 22 May 2005
**Uh, that was already a part of the fact and adds nothing to this discussion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Nor does it add any weight to the evidence that the two jokes are connected. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*I agree with Jay. I think you guys are trying to make a connections where there is none, simply because you want it. I don't think TBC would be cheap enough to steal a joke from Family Guy. I, too, enjoy FG. I enjoy it enough to realize that both Seth Mcfarlane and TBC are original enough to not copy eachother in some sort of "homage".... - [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**It's not a stolen joke or a borrowed one, it's a reference. Sort of like TBC saying "Hi, we like your show" --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** If it IS based on FG, then it's a stolen joke, because they don't give any credit of any sort to the original - including SOLID references (like the type I've been asking for since my vote!). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:29, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Since when was did any of the referrences(anywhere on HR) get mentioned in the credits? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***** You're taking the word too literally. I mean that the references make some mention that can easily be tied to something else that makes the reference (relatively) clear - the name of the character on the Halloween costume is revealed, an exact line of dialogue is replicated, the name of an establishment is thrown into conversation, etc. Where's the tie here? It's a similar joke that could stand on its own without Family Guy having ever used the same joke. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:06, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***** For me it was the coins jingling inside homestar they way they did inside peter. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
****** But that's still just part of the similar joke that could easily stand on its own without FG having ever done the joke. It's not solid. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:21, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
******The point is we do have probable cause to believe this. I suppose it could be revised to say it was posted the day after a very similar joke on family guy aired, and that wether this was a wink at Seth Mcfarline, is unknown. That much is clearly true. --02:52, 23 May 2005 (UTC)~
******* We have just as much reason to accept this as "Get Back Loretta" and you Declined that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:55, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*******I obviously feel the reasoning provided is sufficient and much better than on that one, or I would have declined this one. I didn't however. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*******The only "reasoning" supplied has just given weight to the argument that this is a coincidence. Once again, the fact that the toons aired so close to each other, the fact that TBC DO NOT rip off jokes directly from other people (instead using more subtle references like in the Halloween toons), and that the jokes are not identical only help to show that its a coincidence. Nobody has given reasoning beyond the close air date. THAT is why people are so opposed to this one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I vote against. Similar jokes, yes. But not enough to consider one a referance to the other. '''Decline''' --[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 22:41, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

*'''Decline''' And computer keyboards are useless to people with boxing gloves for hands. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline'''. So? Also, how is a laser gun useless to someone with no hands? I don't see a trigger on it or anything, it could be linked directly into his nerves... Just point and think. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Apparently you've never heard of megaman. :)
*'''Decline, and I hate you get out''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and fun facts are useless unless they are "fun" or even "interesting" --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' When you have nothing nice to say about a fun fact ... -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' pointless, useless and I think this qualifies as an opinion instead of a fact. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Witty H*R-related phrase involving the word 'Second'''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:42, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
***Who gives a holy crap? Why wasn't this just DELETED? '''DECLINE!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:17, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh really? I thought most people played the guitar with their faces! Hah, how silly of m-DELETED!! 220317May
**Jimi Hendrix did... --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:13, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' "I DON'T WANT TO EAT A GUITAR!" "You're not eating it... you're shredding some hot licks... with your teeth." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:54, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's true, and, yeah, I hadn't thought of that, but it's kinda "eh."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:25, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, and I hate you too''' - Enough said. Really. This hardly qualifies as a usable fact, for god's sake. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:49 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Revise, Accept'd''' Say something more like:
<pre>Stong Bad wanted to have a lazor gun and a guitar for hands but there is no way he could play
the guitar or fire the gun without hands.</pre> --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Even then I think this fact is sort of pointless. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:55, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declorn'd!''' I think someone ELSE could play guitar, like coach z or something. Since your hand is a lazor gun, you can fire it yourself! I mean, the lazor gun WOULD be part of you. It's exactly like saying your hands have no use! --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:02, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

*'''All is Off...Decline it Decline It!''' I'm sorry. I just don't see any connection whatsoever except for the fact that they both are music. If someone can see any resemblance, I'll change my vote. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
**'''SECOND'D'D'D'D'D'''--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' because you contradict yourself in your very next sentence. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a generic parody of crappy compilation CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*erm...no. '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' No sir, I don't like it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yo declino''' For the reasons stated above [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' How? Just because the rest of the email involves children? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 20:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second:''' Never thought of anything else when I saw the CD. Never even thought of Kidz Bop. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Remove the part about the CD-spine. That's random, lame, and belongs somewhere else.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declinedified!''' It was only made for the name of the email person, All-is-on! It was just a coincidence. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

*'''Decline.''' We have the Appearances section on pages for items, characters, etc. to give information like this. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Besides, its not like the Pom Pilot is a item that appears in most cartoons, so I wouldn't think it would be that interesting anyway --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Yeah, I'd have to agree with this.... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because... ehh... because. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Already listed elsewhere. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' So, how else are you supposed to hang a link to the Pom Pilot in the article? I don't think we're supposed to put links in the transcript. The only other time that the Pom Pilot is mentioned is in Goofs. I guess you could put it there, but I don't really like that. Maybe we need a Props listing under the Cast listing (just an idea). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:06, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 04:58, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

*'''Must...deny...funfact!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>Revise The evidence shown is convincing, but it may still be a coincidence. If you can show a little more I'll accept.</strike>Since you failed to revise, Decline--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' The fact that this one actually contains the phrases "this '''may be''' and '''stretch'''ing things" should disqualify it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*<strike>Comment It still might be true. The "emerson" and "tark" things are convincing, he just needs to add a little more proof.</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*4 letters out of 26 can't convince me.[[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::*<strike>Hence why I said he needs more proof</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
:*And somehow I'm still not seeing it. Besides, he probably called him Emerson because adding "erson" onto someone's name is a HR running gag. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*According to this --> [[Names ending in -erson]] you are correct, <strike>it still could be a double gag though. However, I'm not accepting it yet anyway. As I said, he needs to give more proof. </strike>--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*'''Comment''' Although that is true, it was not a running gag at the time because this is the first appearance of it.
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes an -erson joke is just an -erson joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinexord''' Emerson is also a company that makes sinks and dishwashers, not to mention that Emerson is a real last name. Who knows where they were going? And who cares? -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

*No... it really doesn't. It's a joke. '''3-Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 04:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**Agreed. '''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Really?! I never got it till now! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declinerween, Declinerween, You're 55 million light years from Accepterween!''' (in sarcastic voice) I'm absolutely stunned. I never noticed this! Whoever posted this fun fact should be like, a professor at like Harvard, or CGNU, man! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline''' - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' ..........What? [[User:The_Pardack|The_pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' <shatner> I... dontunderstand. </shatner> --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline with an iron fist.''' That doesn't even make sense. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:30, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a bronze fist.''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I can't tell who's really being sarcastic and who's not, I think it's obvious if you just think about it for all of three seconds. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 06:26, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You! Obey the Decline Fist!''' Or at least Rewrite so I know what you're talking about. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:53 AM 21 May 2005

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

*'''Weak Accept''' I'm not sure if this is really worth pointing out but hey... it's true. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline''' True, but pointless. These should be ''fun'' facts, right? [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' The same could be said for the ending of Rock Opera. Remember, they're supposed to be "Fun facts" not "lets nit pick every little detail facts". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Accept This would make a good remark, yes. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Just as long as it's listed as a Fun Fact and not a Goof, I find it okay. It's not a Goof simply because he could be lip syncing and not really making any vocal sound. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, he's there. No, he's not singing. Yes, this phone is plugged in. We can tell that he's not singing by looking at him. Not fun in the least. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declome.''' Everyone's there, whether they want to sing or not. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch, GmbH|S-B, GmbH]]
*'''Decline''' And he isn't singing so... there isn't a problem... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''!d'enilceD''' Yeah, a lot of those people weren't even singing.
* And what about Pom Pom? All he can do is burble. Its just not worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This goes without saying. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral.''' Both sides make some pretty good points. -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:43, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Yeah, that's a good fact. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===

====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I'd really like to know why people have such a problem with this fact. It's true... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' It's not that it's wrong, it's just not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' No, he was running so fast that you couldn't see it. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' I noticed this too, but never thought to add it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Sorcended!!! I mean, second'd'''--[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Second''' Running so fast you couldn't see it my eye! --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''(Almost) Accept''' The aid of flashbooklets helps on this one. But I'm not really sure if it needs to be noted. To be honest, I checked for the bug before I read this, so it might be valid. --[[User:weirdguy|weirdguy]]
*'''Accept'''. I noticed this, and thought it was funny... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:13, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' So?? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 16:12, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's true. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:33, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*The pessemist that I am I attempted to discover exactly how and why this fact was false. I watched it several times over and tried to come up with some rationale for how the bug does not show up. In the end though I have to say that this is true, and it is interesting enough to stay '''Accept'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:58, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.
*'''Accept.''' We have links to IHOP. Why not Dairy Queen? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:35, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Also links to Sonic, Winn-Dixie, Hardee's, Sbarro, Del Taco, Chick-fil-A, and Big Boy. I'm sure there are more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' You'd be surprised what some people don't know. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' sure, why not? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:47, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' DQ is no McDonald's or Subway, (there's only one in my town!) and you have to admit it's an interesting nickname. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This fact is fine, particularly because I'm not sure all parts of the country (not to mention other countries) have Dairy Queens. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:14, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Good with me. Continue, brave Fun Facter! -Walking Armless
*'''Cool Cool (aka accept)''' I WENT TO DQ YESTERDAY!!! --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'Tis True Pom Pom, 'Tis True, so '''Accept!''' -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:51 PM, 21 May 2005

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment
*Trogga's pushing it again. '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Sure, why not, if it's true. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline''' A very common phrase that's a tad too obvious. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't know it. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:32, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Most poeple should know what a quack is... and if you don't i'm sorry --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:52, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept'''. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Weak Decline''' It's true, but it's common knowlage--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).
*'''Accept.''' I don't know why (maybe it's the goofy picture), but I find this very funny. And I think it's relevant enough to Strong Sad's online search to merit inclusion under either the Trivia or Remarks section. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:09, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not particularly relevant to H*R, I'm afraid. Though it IS kinda weird. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 18:51, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''The Second Ones''' --[[User: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:40, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''I realize that.''' But it was just so... I dunno, ''bizarre.'' I didn't originate this fact myself; I noticed it while backtracking through the page's history, and it struck me as funny enough to be shared. I can already sense that this fact won't make the cut, but at least it will have a short life here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Intriguing as it may be, this simply isn't the place for it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:02, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Probably referring to his eyes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This ranks right down there with Aunt Gert. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**It might not be good enough for the article, but it's not as bad as ''that''.
* Sigh, you people just don't get it, do you. FUN. FACT. This is the only fact I've seen in a while that really fits that term. And what don't you get about it? Isn't it SLIGHTLY coincidential that Strong Sad said that he searched for the blue ones and found something kind od disturbing (he didn't exactly say it, but you know that's what he meant.)? I think this would be perfect for a Fun Fact...for now. If this gets taken off google then the Fun Fact should be dropped (even changing it to say "at one point" would make it lose its luster.) Oh, I never actually voted, did I. '''Accept, at least for now.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:19, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Calm down Mr "I know the real Foofoo Grass". People are declining it because its not RELEVENT not because its not interesting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept'''. This is actually one of the more intreguing Fun Facts I have ever seen (and one of the only ones I really actually persued cause it intregued me). I say let it on. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All other arguments aside, this fun fact doesn't work because it's temporary. Eventually, some other (more search-relevant) pictures will replace the Ellijah Wood photo and this won’t make sense. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Indeed. '''Second'''. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:43, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' They never actually say that Strong Sad searched Google, but I think it can be safely inferred, in which case I think this is one awesomely fun fact. I think it's also safe to assume that TBC did the search and knew what it was that they were indirectly referencing... and even if they didn't, I think it's worth recording, since future fans will likely be curious as to what was on the other side of the "blue ones" search when the toon was released. It should be revised, however, to say "At the approximate time that the toon was released..." since the search result is almost certain to change relatively soon. - Dingell
**'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**But that doesn't prove they were talking about the Elijah Wood image. And curious future users? Who cares? What, we're going to list everything an image search for "Blue Ones" will bring up? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I think it's a funny coincidence. I don't think TBC had it in mind, but it's an interesting observation. It should at least be put on the discussion page of Bug In Mouth Disease for people to see. And as said before, that picture won't always come up on a google image search for "blue ones", so it should be edited to "At the time this toon first came out..." --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**** But WHY would the Elijah Wood pic have to be singled out? Nobody has given one good reason as to why beyond "its interesting". Thats not a reason, thats an opinion. This fact has no place on the wiki. If people are curious, let them do their own image search. Or better yet, just post a link to google's results for "blue ones" and we can be done with this damned fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****I have *yet* to figure out why this is so fascinating to people. If you page through the results, there's a picture of girls in bikinis. Personally, I think that's *far* more interesting, but I ain't writin' a fun fact about it! Maybe there's some kinda Frodo-voodoo thang goin' on here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:04, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
******It's fascinating because many people like "strange but true" facts, especially considering (A) you wouldn't expect to find the picture using that particular search, (B) it's almost the very first result, (C) Elijah Wood is well known, and (D) the picture is kinda creepy. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:48, 12 May 2005 (UTC) — ''P.S.'' That bikini picture wasn't nearly worth the effort to find it. What a tease.
*******However, a picture of girls in bikinis would be better attributed to fact that Strong Sad got "nothing pleasant" [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 19:39, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' The picture in question could be uploaded to the wiki. Then, it wouldn't matter whether the original eventually wasn't on the first page of Google's results, because we could just link to our copy.
**No! NO! Stop it! Back off! Back the F*** off! IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COMES UP ON THE "BLUE ONES" GOOGLE SEARCH. THEY WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT ELIJAH WOOD. Whats worse, if you do image searches at Lycos.com or Altavista.com the Frodo pic? Doesn't come up. Sorry, "being sort of weird" doesn't entitle the fact to be placed on the Wiki. And NOBODY has answered my question for why this is relevent to the toon other than "It came up with the google search".[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Why are you yelling? The last I checked, the declines outnumber the accepts nearly 2 to 1; there's no real danger that this fact will make it to the page. Even if the opposite were true, we can still discuss these matters civilly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***To speak to your specific question, somebody out there (not me) wondered what Strong Sad would have found (if Strong Sad were real) when he searched for "blue ones". The Elijah Wood picture was what he or she found and, being sufficiently strange, qualified as "nothing pleasant" to this unknown originator and to at least a few of us as well. It's a tenuous link, perhaps, but that's what STUFF is for. That's why I put my version ''here'' first, not on the page itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Because its annoying listening to acceptors accepting this fact based on "its kinda weird". The "nothing pleasent anyway" is meant to be a generic statement. They most likely didn't have anything in mind when they made it. There are other fun facts where the declines are overwhealming and people are still being rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****Dude...its a cartoon. No need to get so worked up, <s>especially because dot com is correct in observing that a. It is not exactly pleasent, b.people would actually find it amusing, unlike many a' fun fact and c. the declines already are winning.</s> --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****** Okay repeating what the other guy just said is not cool. Kay? If I wanted to re-read what Dot Com said I'd've just scrolled up. Save your finger wagging for if I ever break the rules. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******* What is wrong with agreeing with someone? But whatever..I am a noob here so I shall change what I said.--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******Whoa, Donny. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki:Welcoming_committee#Don.27t_Bite Don't bite] Go easy on the guy. Tony, don't change what you said because Donny yelled at you. If you ment it, keep it up there. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 18:17, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******* Its more for effect than me trying to antagonize someone. That, and I hate it when someone has to have their say, only to repeat what the last guy just said. Bah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' While this is a great fact, there is no appropriate place for it on the page. Possibly there will be in teh future, but now, it is sadly not so. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 2:47 PM May 14, 2005
*'''Decline''' It's just like saying "Googling the word 'virus' will bring up a picture of Tim Allen." It's extremely irrelevant. But it's still good for people to argue over. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch,GmbH|S-B,GmbH]]
**The difference is, whereas Strong Bad never searched for "virus", Strong Sad did actually mention using an internet search engine to fine "Blue Ones". Whether that makes this fact relevant I don't know, but it is actually fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*** But it still isn't relevent. Like I said, they didn't specify a search engine and the Frodo pic only shows up on Google. I'm not even sure why its interesting at all. "Blue ones" causes Frodo to come up '''because his eyes are blue'''. Its not weird. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****I hate it when someone has to have their say (''read:'' get in the last word), only to repeat what he himself has already said. Bah. --P810A
**** I hate it when someone whines about someone getting the last word, just to try and get the last word. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment.''' Donny, will you SHUT UP already?! We get it! You don't want this to be a Fun Fact! There's no sense in standing up and trying to persuade everyone. The purpose of a VOTE is that everyone can get their OWN idea in, NOT ONE PERSON'S. So "BACK OFF BABY." Decline it and then mind your own business.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I hate it when someone criticizes a noob for repeating and agreeing with another member, and then repeats his own point of view over and over again just in case we missed it the first few times. *ahem* -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Common Taters''' - I'm sorry, but will everyone PLEASE stop making a huge deal out of this? This has to be the most ridiculous argument I have ever seen in my entire 12 years of living. Really. I'm just going to get this back on topic for actual debating, if everyone is done bickering about nothing.
So, after some thinking, '''Weak Decline.''' This is very true, and also very strange, but it shouldn't really count as a fact, considering how you can just click on the link and already know what's on the page. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:40 PM, 21 May 2005

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".
*As the writer, I '''Accept''' it, but I put it here because I'm not sure if it's enough for a fun fact. I think the grammatical use of "whom" isn't exactly widely known, but some people might disagree. Also I'm not sure if it should go in Remarks or Explinations. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I know, I know, it's just a joke. I know, I know, not every joke requires an explanation. But speaking as a devoted silly fact slayer, I think this is worth a mention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Definetly depends on what section this is meant to go in. I would say remarks. '''Accept'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second. Which means accept. :P'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Few people know the rules of "who" and "whom" but it's still a grammatical error and therefore I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah its worth being there, though you might consider adding the fact that Strong Bad is famous for his anal-retentive attitudes on grammar yet he does not react to this common mistake. '''Accept''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is true and worthy of note...DELETED. That's what you thought I would say, right? Well, too bad. '''Accept''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I'm pretty sure TBC were under the impression that we should already know this, as that's the joke. No need for fun factization, it's pretty obvious. (to me at least)
** While most will realize that its wrong, they may not get WHY its wrong. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This may or may not have been intentional, and the fact that it's grammatically incorrect is obvious. No need state the obvious. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
**So if I walk up to the average guy on the street and ask "When should you gramatically use 'whom' rather than 'who' in a question?" he'd be able to tell me? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:30, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
***I would think so, yes. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
****Not everyone has the grasp of the English language that you do. In fact, the MAJORITY of people don't. :P [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I never noticed this. And the fact that Strong Bad did not criticize it makes it fun enough to be a fact. [[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 01:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined.''' This is a FUN fact? Maybe for an englilsh teacher, but not for me. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*''Accept/Comment'' Actually, it's quite the oppisite. An english teacher would think it's common sense.
*'''Accept''' It's true, and a lot of people don't understand when to use who vs. whom. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:16, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.
''Due to ballot stuffing, the entire vote will be restarted. All votes except Jay's (since this is Jay clearing everything) have been deleted, so we're starting with a fresh entry.''
*'''"I'm-a gonna accept."''' This is a good fact, or at least I think so. It should say something about a paniced scream about getting hurt, usually capatilized when they say it a 2nd time.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 18:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is becoming something of an edit war, and the poster who added it won't STOP adding it, so I'm putting it to the vote. Vote away, people. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*I stick by my '''Accept''' [[User talk:greg2point0|greg2point0]]
*<strike>'''Accept''' Just once this time =P [[User talk:Hawk-Eye-100|Hawk-Eye-100]] 3:49</strike> ''(This is the same user as the above vote. Check the History.)''
** {smack} That was the sound of my head hitting the keyboard. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* Jay, why are we even voting on this if its just the one guy who thinks it should be accepted? His cheating should've dis-qualified this fact from the get go. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
** To make a point, I suppose. He WASN'T STOPPING. He was even editing my "don't add this" note. I'm trying to take the higher ground here. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mere coincidence. And breaking the rules isn't cool. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:16 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Also comment that just because someone tried to cheat the vote doesn't mean the fact itself should be scrapped immediately, in my opinion. It should wait the two weeks from when the vote was restarted and considered unanimously declined (unless someone other than this cheater gives an accept vote of course). --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 11:47, 11 May 2005
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' IMHO, the '''four''' user names and ''two'' IP addresses involved in this incident should be banned permanently. This Wiki looks the way it does because the vast majority of the community follows the rules, both written and implied. Those who don't shouid not be welcome here (again IMHO). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and permaban the IP's. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meh, accept.'''(Upgraded vote: '''Meh, Very weak accpet.''') This guy's awfully devoted to getting his fact up, and it ''Italic text''is''Italic text'' true. Heck, I didn't even realize it until I read this. Anything that does so should work as a fun fact, no? So I don't see what's wrong with it but I think this should be in "remarks." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Sigh...TK, one guy does all the voices for the characters (Powered by The Cheat, Marzipan, and Teeg Dougland aside). Of course every once in awhile there is going to be similiar sounding dialouge. And just because a fact is true, doesn't make it fun. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
***Right. We could say "this is the first 'toon where Strong Bad tapes his head to the TV," and we wouldn't be wrong, but who cares? Anyway, I doubt that there's any real connection between these - they sound kinda similar, but that's it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Yeah, I guess...I'm going to demote my vote to '''Meh, very weak accept.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:39, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>I agree, it should go in "remarks". So '''Second'''. [[User:Supyall|Supyall]]</strike> ''(What is your deal? You can only vote once!)''
***Hmmmm. Where have I seen this user name before? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*We gave him repeated warnings and he's still breaking the rules. I say ban him. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Three-day suspension as of now. If he does it again it'll be indefinite. We warned him multiple times. Does he think we're stupid or something? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' - Dingell
*Whoever keeps putting this up, FYAD. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Dare I ask what that stands for? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*** ...you and die ;) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Oh. You learn something new every day, I guess... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Despite the chaox of this... Voting process, I say '''Accept'''. Could be a refferance...''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* As another mighty fun fact slayer said: Could be's are not cool. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll Accept your FACE!!''' to a bloody...pulp... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Not that it really matters, but is this an accept or decline?
*No no no no no! VERY small liason. VERY unlikely to be reference. VERY declined. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I wasn't going to step in, but considering the surprizing number of accept votes, I have to. This is coincidence people, nothing more. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.
*'''Now ''this'' fact is totally worth my time and consideration DECLINED!!''' Very, very different type of "one" being referred to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Seconded -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*Oh, for the love of...it's a ''word'' people! We're not here to keep taps on every time a character says something twice! '''Decline'''[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second'd!!!'''What he said--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Bupkis'd''' Ummm ... decline! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*If there were ever a candidate to be immediately '''Deleted''' (skipping the STUFF process), this is it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''And once again so as to make me sound like a broken record: Not everything is meant to refer to something else.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second this "one".''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What!? No! No!! No!!! I mean, no! Never! No! What? No!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and STFU. (I'm in a bad mood today, deal with it.) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
* Decline. No. Just--just no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:21, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Definitely the wrong kind of ones. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''EXTREMELY STRONG DECLINE''' no not at all. I'm right, your wrong
*'''Well, there's more than one One.... Declined...''' No->No->No. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 04:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE³''' This is the biggest stretch EVER! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''De-freakin'-cline''' What made you think that??? -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:45 PM, 21 May 2005

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.
*'''Decline as written''' Is it? I'm not sure. But "in years" is unprofessional. If you can provide an actual time span - and be accurate - then maybe you've got something here... if said time span is impressive enough. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I put on my detective hat and had a look. The last eggless toon was [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], a month and a half ago. Before that was the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] 3 months ago. [[Under Construction]] and most of the [[Puppet Stuff]] is eggless. If it is rewritten "The first cartoon (except April Fools features and live action) ..." then the last was [[Ballad of The Sneak]], 10 and a half months ago. Discounting music videos too, the latest was [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], 13 months ago. '''In summary''' - as written it is false, and rewriting to make it even one year ago requires too many caveats to be interesting. '''Decline'''. Incidentally, the last eggless email was [[property of ones]], and I put that in its Trivia section. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**All right, that settles that. '''Second''' and this "fact" may as well be closed now. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Okay,''' how about "This cartoon contains no Easter eggs"? Or, better, put the Easter egg section up with "(none)" listed under it. That way, people don't have to wonder whether there were eggs but we somehow forgot to list them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
** '''Not necessary''' We don't do that for any OTHER egg-less toon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Why not?''' It would make them all more complete. Where's the harm? Besides, since people ''expect'' the eggs, it's news when there are none. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Possibly:
<pre> Unlike most recent cartoons featuring the Freecounty, USA characters,
this one contains no easter eggs. </pre> -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:56 May 10, 2005
*'''ATTENTION POSTERS ALL!!''' I think what the post-er was trying to say was that it was the first ''Big Toon'' in whatever years, so this needs a '''rewrite''', changing "cartoon" to "Big toon" or "toon." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 10 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' In which case the last was [[Where's The Cheat?]] in February 25, 2002. However there have been so few "Big Toons" that my previous comment about the sample space being too small to be interesting still holds. I stick by my decline. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If a toon doesn't have an egg, it doesn't have an egg. People are smart enough to figure that out if there aren't any listed on the Toon's wiki entry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*GUYS! He means BIG toon! And He's Right! But he needs to REwrite it! '''ACCEPT BUT REWRITE FIRST!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' My only question is: what is "fun" about this fact? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Absolutly nothing. Its just another example of Wiki members thinking we need to document every last worthless detail. And while I appreciate rewrites, they're a pain when you have to keep changing whats being rewritten as parts of the fact are picked apart.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite.''' As others have said before, it should be noted that this is the first ''Big'' Toon to contain no Easter eggs in over three years. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:21, 11 May 2005
*'''Neutral''' While I noticed this too, I also noticed that this is the only Big Cartoon that has no credits of any kind either. Makes an interesting remark on its own, but I don't know... --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 02:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*O.K...I made up my mind: '''Decline'''. Look people, you could also say that this is the first cartoon to feature Homestar naked in a long time, but would that make it any more "fun"? I think not. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Going back to the last toon thing...actually, the last long toon was [[Shopping for Danger]], if you want to talk most recently. The last toon featuring the H*R universe was [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]], last year. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** Not exactly - Shopping for Danger DID have an Easter Egg, and SBIIJ had extra scenes after "THE END" (some people count those as Easter Eggs, even though they're not listed as such in our articles). Not as though I'm defending this fact or anything, just trying to keep out own facts straight. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' We can't start keeping track of this kinda thing... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I'd cut out "first in years" and replace it with something like: "a rarity to have no easter eggs." -Walking Armless
**(Not a vote.) Exactly.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:42, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.
:''NOTE: We're voting on the CGNU portion, not the tiny portion.''
*<strike>'''Neutral''' The wording is very very poor, but I'll leave it to the vote. Y'no, if anyone cares about this page any more. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)</strike> Know what? I'm changing to '''Decline''' because, truth is, we really DON'T know that he's a CGNU graduate, and we don't really need the speculation. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*Bubs attends night classes at Disco Tech according to the [[Homestar Quiz]]. Perhaps they had a VCR repair course? Or maybe Bubs is just an unethical quack who tapes clocks to broken VCRs. It's possible that he went to CGNU, but since we don't know, I give it a '''Decline'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''So weak that its creepy decline''' GEEEEEEZZZZ OH PEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ! YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TOO HARD!! Oh yeah and the post above mine, I agree with that so I guess this is kind of a '''second,''' too. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' Ohhhh, people with way too much, time on their hands, doo doo doo! [[User:DancingRobots| DancingRobots]]
*So because among Bubs's fake (I assume) buisness cards, there is one that says "Dr" Bubs, we assume he probably has a doctorate in something? He didn't just make it up and shove it on a card? Bubs Normal Investigator is also apparantly not affiliated with Bubs Paranormal Investigator, does that mean we should make a fun fact that Bubs must have multiple personalities, or there are several Bubs's or something? Of course not. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''. You see, the joke is, in the e-mail [[CGNU]], Strong Bad is offering classes in TV/VCR Repair. Bubs could have gotten his certificate. Obviously the paranormal/normal investigator is an independant joke, not relevant here. I think the idea of Bubs attending a Strong Bad class is funny enough to keep it. And to those that say he didnt neccesarily go to CGNU, I ask you this: What other school in the H*R universe has TV/VCR Repair classes? He MUST have gone to CGNU, because it is the only school. I rest my case. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 01:25, 13 May 2005
** Right. We know that. But we KNOW that Bubs tried to repair a VCR in [[12:00]]. We DON'T know that Bubs is a CGNU graduate. Without this knowledge, this is nothing more than speculation about a common use of a couple of common words. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Exactly how "Common" is "TV/VCR Repair"? I havent used that phrase in real life, ever. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** So you've NEVER seen an infomercial? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** ''(on the edit)'' We can't answer the "which school" because the only one we know about is CGNU - but that doesn't mean it's the only school! And we don't know Bubs went to ANY school for VCR repair. And just because you think it's funny, that's no reason to keep it in and of itself. And, BTW, was it necessary to change the title of this fact (formerly "See Gee In Bubs")? Yours makes it look too similar to vvv that one. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**It seems to me that the CGNU thing and Bubs' business cards both refer to the same real-life observation -- a lot of ads for sketchy correspondance schools prominently advertise "TV/VCR Repair" as a "major". So this is not referencing CGNU, it's just referencing a general occurrence. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:22, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*What does "See Gee In Bubs" mean anyway??? I don't get it. "Dr. Bubs" makes it clear that we are questioning his Dr. Bubs business card. "See Gee In Bubs"... doesnt mean anything to me. Please explain. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**[[mascot|See Gee In You]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**OHHH Now I get it. I was reading it too literally. Well, change it back if you want. Its a wiki. Maybe make it "CNG - bUbs" --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 03:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.
*So weak a connection. I thought I would '''Decline''' it! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*I '''accept''' it, certainly. [[User:Cookiecaper|Cookiecaper]] 23:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dr. Decline''' And why? There's no connection except the word "Doctor" and Bubs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 23:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Shut up kid!''' Nah, Homestar is just being silly. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Upon further consideration, this reference is awfully weak. [[User:SilverSurfer|SilverSurfer]]
*'''Decline''' Everything is a reference to everything these days, eh? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24 10 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Even if it's not an intentional reference, it's a good catch! - Dingell
** Uh... if it's not intentional then it's not a reference. And, as thus, the "fact" is not. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I shoulda '''declined''' this like a million years ago! [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* I was the person who wrote this fun fact. It was what I thought of when I saw the toon, but I understand that the connection is quite weak. Actually, I'm a little surprised no one said anything about the "could be" in there. Anyway, since most of you feel the same way, I cheerfully withdraw the fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could be's aren't usually good anyway. I'm gonna say no and hit it with a little '''uh digga digga digga digga digga digga digga DECLINED!''' -- SBEmail22
**'''Second''' -[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".
*'''Decline''' This is another case of thinking a similar joke on the same phenomenon is the origin of the joke itself. "My stories" is simply how some people refer to the soap operas they watch. Heck, George Carlin makes reference to that in an album from the '70s, and that's not the origin either -- it's just that sweet English language in action again. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 12:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deliciously Declined''' And I'm glad someone saw fit to remove the "fact" stating the stories gag was a Simpsons reference. C'mon folks, not every little detail in the HR universe is derived from something else. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding those above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When someone refers to a TV show as a story, they're talking about a soap opera. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:41 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 20:18, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delteated!''' STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING again, ain't we? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you were to mention all the things this [http://www.google.com/search?q=grandma+%22watching+her+stories%22 could have come from] then we'd get a TTATOT. And while finding out what the origin of this phrase was would be good, it's probably not going to happen, and it's almost certainly not this. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's just a common saying among grandmas, like "gar-bazhe" among moms. My grandma is always referring to TV shows as "stories" - Dingell
*MAY BE != IS. '''DECLINE''' *exhales* [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED. [[User: James Craven|James Craven]]

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

*'''Accept''', If 'likely' is changed to 'possibly'. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** They're still forms of the phrase "may be". '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*Or it could be Masterpiece Theater. Who knows... who cares? Too much speculation. '''Decline, old boy''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Good thinkin there. -- Dingell
*Naaaahhhhh '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment''' If I remember correctly, I think [[The Announcer]] has a British accent. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:06, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Nothing more than speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Dacline.''' I see wut you're saying, but the Caleb Rentpayer sounds more of a soap then something Public Television would view (although EVERYTHING is technically "public television" I am referring to channels like PBS, as I think SB was). I think the show SB is talking about was probably a documentary hosted by a british guy (which PBS is chock-full of.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' We're not talking about Caleb Rentpayer, we're talking about the show Strong SAD is watching... [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:08, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination.''' No connection. Next! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

*'''Decline''' Why oh why someone thought this was trivia boggles the mind. There is nothing to this "fact". She raised an eyebrow, whoopdie do. Trivia implies that someone will actually find the information interesting, nobody cares about facial expressions unless it somehow reveals something about the character (in the case of Strong Bad, it'd show that he actually has eyebrows). This just encourages the posting of worthless facts. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Then again, have we ever seen Marzipan have eyebrows?
**If you watch her character video and the SB is in Jail Cartoon you can see her eyebrows when she makes her angry face. However, we're talking about a cartoon with characters sans arms and that has a guy with a wrestling mask for a head and boxing gloves for hands. Eyebrows aren't a concern. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' [[some kinda robot|Some kinda robot]] marks the first time we see Strong Bad using a computer. So what? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept''' Lately, TBC seem to be adding new facial expressions to the characters on a regular basis (like SB's sarcastic look in "long pants"). It might be worth it to point them out. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:33, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''accept''' New facial expressions happen once in a while and it's interesting to note when it happens. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Strong Decline''' Why not add 'This is the first time we see Senor Cardage talk to Strong Sad' or 'This is the first time Coach Z buys something from Strong Bad' too? --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 9:30 14 May, 2005
*Accept Sure, why not. It's worth adding. *shrug* [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:25, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Srong Accept'''come one peoples (prenounced 'pee-oe-puhls') this is the first time we have evidence of Marzipan having eyebrows period, up until this she was like my friend Jeff who had no eyebrows--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

*'''NO'D!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nay''' [[User:71.110.2.216|71.110.2.216]] 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:08, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. There's nothing more to say. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''hahahaha NO''' Like I said, check your frickin facts! --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]]
**'''SECOND.''' Absolutely not the case![[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:38, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

*'''Accept.''' Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' Garage sales aren't in garages. They're called garage sales because one usually sells the old junk that's been sitting in one's garage. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Utterly useless fun fact. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''--[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 18:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' And I've seen a yard sale in a garage too. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:27, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Garage sale, yard sale, they can be used interchangably. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''. Garage sale is a colloquialism. It doesn't mean that the sale has to happen ''in'' the garage. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' The garage sales I've seen actually take place in garages. I won't be sad though if this fact gets voted down. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' What he said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 04:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:21, May 8 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 9:50, May 12 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this obvious, but also the term "garage sale" is a blanket term, and doesn't necessarily imply the sale is inside a garage. From [http://www.webster.com Webster.com]:
::Main Entry: '''garage sale''' 
::Function: noun
:: a sale of used household or personal articles (as furniture, tools, or clothing) held on the seller's own premises - [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the other declines! Talk about a waste of valuable mission time! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' You're being way too literal, seriously. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 19:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Fun facts are, by definition, fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:30, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with modifier''' Since the place is the field where the "garage sale" takes place, it could be even part of a flea market. --[[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:42 ET 12 May 2005.
*'''Decline''' We use the term Band-Aid even when the bandage is a different brand, and we use the term garage sale even when they're not in a garage. Also it seems unlikely that Strong Bad's house would have a garage because we've never seen any of the brothers Strong with a car and thus the only reason he called it a garage sale was because the email said "garage sale".[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And then the Decline smote the Useless funfact, and all the land was laid to sanity...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 05:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't think he's neccessarily making fun of it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline'''I see where you're going with this, which is kidna the problem. It's a little obvious and pointless[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''You're missing the point!!''' We already know that it's based on G.I. Joe! The whole point is that Matt is imitating the voice of Cobra Commander, but not his voice actor. Accepting this fact is like saying "If you imitate the voice of Homestar, then you are imitating/referencing/making-fun-of Matt Chapman because he is the voice actor." If three other people add to my '''Decline''', we can get The Eggman to close this fact and put it out of its misery. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 14:44, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
====Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F====
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fun fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined''' by a score of 4-12. Discussion moved to [[Talk:trevor the vampire]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:34, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
(UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====limozeen====
Limozeen: But they're in space is almost a direct reference to the flopped saturday morning show Josie and the Pussy Cats in space.

'''Verdict:''' A fact very much like this went through the STUFF process and was '''Declined'''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:57, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:33, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====Face the Camera====
This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally The Brothers Chaps keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Definitely a ''Diff'rent Strokes'' reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' TBC does like to be silly with their names, such as their Bill Bellamy schoolbell. While the bell is a specific reference, I'm sure any name with "bell" would have worked. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.
*'''Decline=Very Yes.''' Aunt Gert Alert! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline No it's because of the over 400,000 viruses. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''All right Edgar, drop a Decline on 'em!''' - No, Bubs' belt is slightly darker than the grass if you look close enough. It's the viruses, that's all. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:19 PM, 21 May 2005

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
===Peacy Prize===
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===Bushes===
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

====Rose Blake====
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:07, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Stlunko====
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:08, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[monster truck]]===
====Get Back Loretta!====
The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

*'''Wave of Decline!''' I really... have to say decline. Interesting, but TBC didn't do this, the sender did.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I posted this one earlier today, realizing it would probably get STUFF'd and I came back to check on it, only to notice that in two previous batches of edits, it was added and promptly removed (without STUFFing, I might add). I decided to STUFF it so a consensus could be reached on it. I don't think this is mere speculation here - although the reference is not made on the part of TBC, I still believe it's a valid reference and if at least two other people thought so (enough to try to add it to the page), then apparently I'm not the only one thinks so. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not enough to go on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment''' Do references by senders count? --Lappy [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 02:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
** We did use one in [[band names]] (though that was a reference to another H*R cartoon). This one is all too likely a coincidence... not as though that seems to matter any more *coughchangeofpacecoughcough* Ahem. Need to have that looked at. Anyway, '''Decline'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***You know Jay, I think that if enough of an argument can be made against a Fun Fact then it should be deleted no matter what the outcome of the voting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Enough of an arguement can be made against any fun fact if you want to. Being a big baby about this will only raise the bitterness meter. I've casted losing votes before(both accept and decline) but I got over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***If I were a big baby I'd post veiled insults disguised as a reply. Jay is right, some revision is in order. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Or you'd just try to get it removed when the majority of people(overwhelming majority) want it to pass. That's how spoiled a brat does things, not a mature adult. You can't have your way all the time, get over it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''16 Ton'd!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[The Luau]] ===
==== Reference? ====

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

*'''If it is a reference, then it's just accepted, but since there is no reference, it's DECLINE ALL THE WAY, scalawag''' My jingle says it all. THERE IS NO REFERENCE I CAN SEE AT ALL! YES, I MUST YELL! JEEZ! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)Cheatachu72
*'''Whaatever happened to.... Declination? It used to be so cooooooooool!''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A Simple Decline''' - No, there is no connection. Simple as that. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:08 AM, 22 May 2005
*'''Decline''' Actually, there IS a similarity (think about it!) but not enough for me to call it a "reference". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Nah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - I dunno how this is a "reference"...is it just because Homestar is releaving himself in both? I don't get the connection -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
** I'm not supporting this fact, but I want to clue you in on the similarity. What do you think Homestar is DOING behind the gazebo? That makes the wood not light later on and had to do with melonades? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:28, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[anything]] ===

====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
*'''And I don't care, if you phone has a WEAK ACCEPT in it!"''' I think it's ok, not the greatest, but ok. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, and? Even for those who didn't know that, it's not going to stop them getting the joke. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Neutral.''' True, but a bit too obvious, don't you think? Perhaps too obvious to be an actual note-worthy fact. I haven't quite made up my mind, but i'll keep it at neutral for now.</s> Actually, '''Weak Accept!''' It's an obvious fact, but true and a fact nonetheless. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:54 PM, 21 May 2005
**WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE POINT OF VOTING NEUTRAL IS?!?!? just wondering-[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
***It's a way of saying "I want to make a comment or ask a question, but I don't have a strong enough opinion (yet) to vote on this fact." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral, but wondering''' Why is it the "404" and not the "411"? "404" is the number for a missing page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oops, I meant to put 411. Sorry. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Although this is true, and I make it a point to not decline true facts, I honestly don't think that people need to know this in order to understand what the joke is. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Once, I made breakfast, out of cold pizza, and Decline''' too obvious for my taste. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not really worthy of needing a fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

=== [[theme park]] ===

====Raffi====

Strong Bad's reading of the name as 'Rafi' might be an obscure reference to a Canadian children's entertainer, [http://www.raffinews.com/ Raffi].
*''Moved in here because it's a 'might be'.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, i'm sorry. The correct answer, was Declined.''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I'm not that worked-up about this one. He would probably have typed Raffi if he meant to refer to Raffi. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:53, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''decline''' Don't like the "might be" (never do) but this one at least is plausible. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*"Might be" and "obscure" don't work for me, sorry. Although it has a small likeliness, I doubt it. '''Decline.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Accept''' because seriously I gotta accept ''one'' of these things, right? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:19, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dee-clined.''' Doesn't seem like any sort of referance to Raffi. It seems like too big of a stretch. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:55 AM, 21 May 2005

====Fireball====

The Bowels of Trogdor might be a reference to the now obsolete ride, Fireball, at Morey's Piers in Wildwood, NJ.
*''Moved in here because it's a 'might be'.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete crappy facts outright! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I speculate that this fun fact might be declined...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 16:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' though there was a roller coaster like that in Wildwood there are other 'circle coasters' out there [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' No no no. There are rides like this all over. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - Strikes me as speculation and that usually doesn't make a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:02, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Freaky D'clined''' - Nope. Sorry. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:02 AM, May 21, 2005

====EWW! Trogdor's Bowels!====
Roller coasters don't usually have circular loops on them like the Bowels of Trogdor, because the G-forces involved, indeed, usually cause people to pass out. No one usually catches fire, though.

*'''Decleated! I mean, Da Cheated! I mean Del Taco!''' Actually, I've ridden on a roller coaster type thing (called "The Loop") in which the only track was a circle (Shaped like this > '''O'''). But, we unfortunately ''didn't'' catch fire. *Sigh.* [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*Decline I saw on once called the ring of fire. No one passed out. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Second: Revise, Decline...oVG2?:''' Talk to my man with the isometric formula and the Roller Coaster Tycoon! (Yes, Shockwave, a coaster in one of them Six Flaggie parks, has TWO loops.) -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:01, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Though most loops nowadays are tear-shaped, there are some roller coasters with circular loops. The intensity of the ride boasts a more thrilling coaster. The only real concern with circular loops is that there's a greater chance of riders falling out at the top, but that can be avoided if proper safety measures are taken. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:26, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' These exist, I think. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' I've been on roller coasters like that so they ''do'' exist. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' I first rode on a looping rolly-coaster in 1977. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:55, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declone''' If the info is wrong, then the fact isn't a fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll decline YOUR fun fact, my lord!''' I've been waiting all day to use that one. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:49, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[do over]]===

====George W. Stnank====
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

====Stnank or Not?====

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

====A Type of Bad Grammar====
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a "DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005

====Falling for You====
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

*This is a generic sentence that I've heard plenty of times outside Weezer songs - I've left it on do over in case, though.
*Uh, no. No it's not. Turn off geekdar. It's haywire. '''Dolores!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:27, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' are we seriously voting for this? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE''' It's things like THIS that we need to purge STUFF from. Someone had reentered this "fun fact," and I didn't know it was in STUFF. But it looked so stupid, I just deleted it on the spot. That's what should have been done here. C'mon people, while some facts are good to STUFF, like the "Family Guy" one below, others are better off disappearing. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 12:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is only interesting in that the author attempted to atttribute the reference to a band other than TMBG! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Holy crap, no''' That's a very common phrase. Get this so-called fun fact out of my SIGHT. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:03, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondated!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is absurd.''' This is ''not'' how STUFF was meant to work. This page is for those facts that fall in that gray area of "maybe good, maybe not." It's not for ''this'' kind of nonsense. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Um, I dunno what that MEANS! And you're still DECLINED!''' *cough* yup. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, it's not. (declined)''' 21:58 17 May 2005
*'''Yeah, shut up kid kthx''' Keep crap off kthx. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:11, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Are you some sort of Declined Brew?''' Absurd loose music reference. No. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:33, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*Common pharse '''Declined'''' [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''DEE-CLAAAANE!'''What?! Are you kidding? Everybody knows "Falling for you" is just a common phrase. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's a common phrase. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' 'Nuff said. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline!''' What everyone else said. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:58 AM, 21 May 2005

====Bang On The Drum====
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.
*THIS was in the remarks it seams useless to me don't change it is in the remarks on the page for DO OVER allred this is just caliging it
*'''Decline''' First, sign your posts. Second, although I do think this is mildly interesting, it is not enough to really merit a fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline The angle and force at which the drum is struck can affect it somewhat as well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' Homestar has no arms invisible or otherwise. Quit saying that he does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' because your geekdar's broken. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''revise''' eliminate the second sentence completely. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Decline''' as it is false. If you hit the centre of a drum it gives a low pitch, but hitting the edge of a drum gives a higher pitch. Plus things like how hard you hit the drum, as mentioned above. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 11:38, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Seriously, have you nothing better to do than speculate as to how percussion works for people whose arms actully aren't there? Get a life.
*'''Second Fizz's Post.''' And I'm sure if it was eliminated in the first place, most of the people who have said "Dacline" would have probably voted "Accept." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:20, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not me. '''Decline''' [[user: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 22:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCORPTED!!!'''Some revision wouldn't hurt but it's pretty good as is.[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' - [http://darthno.ytmnd.com/ Darth Vader summarizes my feelings]; just doesn't seem that noteworthy. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

====Change of Pace====

Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy Family Guy] episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

*'''Accept-erson''' I actually saw Family Guy the night before this email was released and I thought about it as a watched this email. And considering the fact that [[TBC]] make updates (in this case, the new email) late Sunday night or early Monday morning (usually), it is a possibility. I mean, TBC seem like the kinda funny dudes who watch those kind of shows, like me. 8-P [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd think this would have been in the works for awhile. But, I did read in one of the interviews that they stick jokes in at the last minute. Still, I think it's a stretch. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I was just about to say that! Given the timing and Homestar's comment about being "jingly" ("tell me that doesn't sound like camp town races!") make me believe it. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!!!''' I'm willing to chalk this one up to coincidence without some more solid evidence (okay, okay, I didn't watch it, but it SOUNDS like it's the sort of thing I'd normally call a coincidence.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:24, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' As soon as I saw this, I immediately thought Family Guy, the timing is way too much of a coincedence, and the Brothers do e-mails on Sundays usually, especially since this one wasnt even up until later today, rather than early in the morning like usual. The brothers seem like the type who would watch Family Guy too. --[[User:Dex|Dex]] 21:28, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I would count this as a very bizzare coincidence...while it may be a reference, I doubt that TBC would have much time to put it in, and if they did if they cared so much...besides, TBC is not especially known to steal jokes from other shows. Reference them maybe, but it was essentially the same joke. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Accept.''' <s>I haven't made up my mind.</s> Although, if all the coins were ''nickels'', then it would be more clear-cut... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' and a minor '''rewrite'''-or at least a couple of fixes while I'm looking at it. I saw the same episode, and it seems like a reference to me. The timing's too good to make it unlikely. As for the rewrite, just stick 'aired' after 'episode' (doesn't sound right to me without it) and replace 'where' with 'in which' And Griffin has two Fs. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 23:25, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**Since these changes don't affect the substance of the fact, we'd might as well go ahead and make them.
*Accept You theif!!! I wanted to say this. Oh well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Why do you people think that TBC would reference the show, considering that the majority of Homestarrunner.com does not contain references to other pop culture shows and their jokes, especially not to the extent of stealing a joke. (after all it seems that the joke was not so much a reference as a direct steal if it was)....
**To the person who didn't sign their name: Uh... let me see here, Cheat Commandos is a huge reference to G.I. Joe, which was part of pop culture and is still a well-known character/franchise, Bug In Mouth Disease alludes to Dallas, pizzaz makes a Seinfeld reference, montage makes a big Rocky reference. As such, I have to disagree when you say HSR makes no references to pop culture. Granted, some of the many are no longer in pop culture, and some are dated, but one cannot say that there are no pop culture references. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 01:55, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
***Sorry about that, I forgot to hit the ~s. Now I was not saying that Homestarrunner.com never makes pop culture references...There are dozens, as TBC are big into pop culture in general. All I am saying is that the examples listed above parody or make fun of or at least ellaborate on pop culture. Not so with the alleged Family Guy reference. That seems to be (a) Not anywhere near as obvious as the others and (b) pretty much the same joke that Family Guy used. I personally would assume that TBC would be original enough to make up their own jokes, not use others, and I think there is a large difference in referencing and stealing the entire joke. Besides, I doubt they had enough time to anyway. I still think it is a coincidence. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
***On the other hand, it was posted one day after the episode aired, which is why I accepted this when I would normally decline --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* In ''The Dilbert Future'' by Scott Adams, Scott has a chapter where he talks about ideas, and how sometimes they can come off as not-original. He wrote a chapter about security cameras in public places and when he turned on his T.V there was a report on the exact same thing. He wrote a comic with a joke about a fake opera singer called "Placebo Domingo" and when he opened his newspaper there was a comic with the same exact joke. I guess what I'm saying is...its a coincidence. Don't be so quick to accept just because of that. This one should never have been STUFF'D, just deleted. '''Decline from school''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' This one makes sense, and we all know that TBC will do last minute edits to make it even funnier. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 04:09, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**But other than the fact that Homestar eats change, is there anything less...coincidental tying it to Family Guy?
**Yes, the fact that this sbemail was posted the day after that episode aired. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
** Yeah, nice to know you read my reply on COINCIDENCES. Because its likely just a COINCIDENCE do you have any other connections beyond, "it was posted the day after the Family Guy episode". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**No but I'm not changing my vote and there's nothing ou can do about it. :D --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Sorry, everybody who declined this, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with this fun fact. '''Strong Accept.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::Please don't tell people that there is nothing wrong with this. They have their own opinion, and that is okay. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
*I know I already voted, but this sounds too coincidental. The timing and the similar (but apparently not identical) jokes are the only connection anyone has brought forth - and that's not really enough for me. It's possible, I suppose, but usually the "could bes" of the Wiki get near-unanimous declines. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' I say we add something around "It's coincidental that a day before this email came out, Peter Griffin tried to eat coins in an episode of Family Guy." in "Remarks". →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
**That might make a bit more sense as a fun fact, but it still lacks any "funness" or "factitude" in my opinion. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''STRONG ACCEPT''' I watched family guy on sunday, and when I saw the e-mail it made me think in an instant- I think that's a reference to Family Guy. [[User:im_a_evil_wizard|im_a_evil_wizard]] 20:36, 17 May 2005 (ETC)
**I actually thought the exact same thing when I watched this toon on monday. However, despite my early instincts, logically the "reference" would not make sense to me, as listed above -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Considering this email came out the day after the new Family Guy aired and it contained a very similar gag (even though Homestar didn't go blind from nickel poisoning), I'd say there's a good chance that this was an intentional reference. Family Guy seems like the type of show TBC would watch. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:44, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept so strong you'd think there were two of them''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:40, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' Even if it is a coincidence, it's a good fun fact. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** If its a coincidence then there is no reason to list it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Good thing it's not a coincidence --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** How can you be so sure? (oh, and when responded to a bulleted fact, use multiple stars instead of colons. It's easier to respond that way (you MUST use colons to respond to a colon-starred fact or it looks terrible), and the spacing is off if you use colons.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:45, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Usually when there's a pop culture reference, it's supposed to be what makes the joke funny. But this joke is funny on its own. It's actually less funny when I think about it being a reference, because like a bunch of other people said, it wouldn't be parodying, it would be stealing. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Accept.''' It wouldn't be stealing. It would be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage homage]-ing. [[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept''' I was thinking the same thing, but I thought it was a coincedence until I read in an intereveiw that they make the emails on Sunday. Now we just need Homestar to go blind. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
* Okay look, if the e-mail had been posted a week or more after the Family Guy episode, this wouldn't even be an issue, it would've just been shrugged off as a similiar gag and not a reference. TBC are not stupid nor do they blindly rip gags off from other people. The fact that the e-mail aired so close to the FG episode only adds to the evidence that its a coincidence. Family Guy isn't the only cartoon or show to have characters eating change (an episode of the Simpsons had Bart eating change). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Incredibly Strong Accept''' I think this is completely true. Maybe I will second Jay. But I don't think I watched that night, which ep was it of FG? --[[Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:02, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm gonna say ACCEPT''' - Makes sense to me. I like that episode too! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*All right, I'm 90% sure that most of this is because you like Family Guy, not because there's a real connection. The timing is probably nothing more than a coincidence, and from my understanding, the joke is only vaguely similar. EVERY OTHER REFERENCE BAR NONE that goes through STUFF needs a solid connection or it gets near-unanimous declines, but that solid connection is curiously absent here. Why accept this fact? I can't see why! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. I just don't see it. Other than the fact that it involved coinage being eaten, I just don't see any similarity between the two incidents --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*To everyone who wants more evidence: In the Family Guy episode the previous night, there were a couple of jokes about the coins jingling in Peter's stomach, and Homestar makes a very similar jingling noise after eating the coins. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 10:13, 22 May 2005
**Uh, that was already a part of the fact and adds nothing to this discussion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Nor does it add any weight to the evidence that the two jokes are connected. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*I agree with Jay. I think you guys are trying to make a connections where there is none, simply because you want it. I don't think TBC would be cheap enough to steal a joke from Family Guy. I, too, enjoy FG. I enjoy it enough to realize that both Seth Mcfarlane and TBC are original enough to not copy eachother in some sort of "homage".... - [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**It's not a stolen joke or a borrowed one, it's a reference. Sort of like TBC saying "Hi, we like your show" --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** If it IS based on FG, then it's a stolen joke, because they don't give any credit of any sort to the original - including SOLID references (like the type I've been asking for since my vote!). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:29, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Since when was did any of the referrences(anywhere on HR) get mentioned in the credits? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***** You're taking the word too literally. I mean that the references make some mention that can easily be tied to something else that makes the reference (relatively) clear - the name of the character on the Halloween costume is revealed, an exact line of dialogue is replicated, the name of an establishment is thrown into conversation, etc. Where's the tie here? It's a similar joke that could stand on its own without Family Guy having ever used the same joke. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:06, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***** For me it was the coins jingling inside homestar they way they did inside peter. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
****** But that's still just part of the similar joke that could easily stand on its own without FG having ever done the joke. It's not solid. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:21, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
******The point is we do have probable cause to believe this. I suppose it could be revised to say it was posted the day after a very similar joke on family guy aired, and that wether this was a wink at Seth Mcfarline, is unknown. That much is clearly true. --02:52, 23 May 2005 (UTC)~
******* We have just as much reason to accept this as "Get Back Loretta" and you Declined that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:55, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*******I obviously feel the reasoning provided is sufficient and much better than on that one, or I would have declined this one. I didn't however. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I vote against. Similar jokes, yes. But not enough to consider one a referance to the other. '''Decline''' --[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 22:41, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grammatically Incorrect====

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

=== [[new hands]] ===
====Not handy====

'Guitars and lazor guns' are both useless to someone with no hands.

*'''Decline''' And computer keyboards are useless to people with boxing gloves for hands. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline'''. So? Also, how is a laser gun useless to someone with no hands? I don't see a trigger on it or anything, it could be linked directly into his nerves... Just point and think. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Apparently you've never heard of megaman. :)
*'''Decline, and I hate you get out''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and fun facts are useless unless they are "fun" or even "interesting" --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' When you have nothing nice to say about a fun fact ... -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' pointless, useless and I think this qualifies as an opinion instead of a fact. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Witty H*R-related phrase involving the word 'Second'''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:42, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
***Who gives a holy crap? Why wasn't this just DELETED? '''DECLINE!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:17, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Oh really? I thought most people played the guitar with their faces! Hah, how silly of m-DELETED!! 220317May
**Jimi Hendrix did... --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:13, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' "I DON'T WANT TO EAT A GUITAR!" "You're not eating it... you're shredding some hot licks... with your teeth." --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:54, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's true, and, yeah, I hadn't thought of that, but it's kinda "eh."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:25, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline, and I hate you too''' - Enough said. Really. This hardly qualifies as a usable fact, for god's sake. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:49 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Revise, Accept'd''' Say something more like:
<pre>Stong Bad wanted to have a lazor gun and a guitar for hands but there is no way he could play
the guitar or fire the gun without hands.</pre> --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Even then I think this fact is sort of pointless. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:55, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declorn'd!''' I think someone ELSE could play guitar, like coach z or something. Since your hand is a lazor gun, you can fire it yourself! I mean, the lazor gun WOULD be part of you. It's exactly like saying your hands have no use! --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:02, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[for kids]] ===
====Okay, dumb children...====

The Party Mix CD with the song "All Is On" is a parody of the various "Kidz Bop!" and other 'kid-safe' albums. The spine of the CD reads "Songs we found on the street".

*'''All is Off...Decline it Decline It!''' I'm sorry. I just don't see any connection whatsoever except for the fact that they both are music. If someone can see any resemblance, I'll change my vote. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
**'''SECOND'D'D'D'D'D'''--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' because you contradict yourself in your very next sentence. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a generic parody of crappy compilation CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*erm...no. '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' No sir, I don't like it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yo declino''' For the reasons stated above [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' How? Just because the rest of the email involves children? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 20:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second:''' Never thought of anything else when I saw the CD. Never even thought of Kidz Bop. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Remove the part about the CD-spine. That's random, lame, and belongs somewhere else.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Decline''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Declinedified!''' It was only made for the name of the email person, All-is-on! It was just a coincidence. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 20:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the bird]] ===
====First Appearance====
This is the first time we see the [[Pom Pilot]].

*'''Decline.''' We have the Appearances section on pages for items, characters, etc. to give information like this. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Besides, its not like the Pom Pilot is a item that appears in most cartoons, so I wouldn't think it would be that interesting anyway --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Yeah, I'd have to agree with this.... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 20:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because... ehh... because. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Already listed elsewhere. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' So, how else are you supposed to hang a link to the Pom Pilot in the article? I don't think we're supposed to put links in the transcript. The only other time that the Pom Pilot is mentioned is in Goofs. I guess you could put it there, but I don't really like that. Maybe we need a Props listing under the Cast listing (just an idea). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:06, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 04:58, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the process]] ===
====Another convoluted band reference thing ====
Strong Bad may be poking fun at rock group [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson%2C_Lake_%26_Palmer Emerson, Lake & Palmer]; his first extension of Em's name is Emerson and the group in question released an album in 1971 entitled [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkus Tarkus], hence Em''tark''anderundersgunderson (while this may be stretching things, the letter "u" replaces "a" in the repetition of "ander," the letter "s" following).

*'''Must...deny...funfact!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:56, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>Revise The evidence shown is convincing, but it may still be a coincidence. If you can show a little more I'll accept.</strike>Since you failed to revise, Decline--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' The fact that this one actually contains the phrases "this '''may be''' and '''stretch'''ing things" should disqualify it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*<strike>Comment It still might be true. The "emerson" and "tark" things are convincing, he just needs to add a little more proof.</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*4 letters out of 26 can't convince me.[[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::*<strike>Hence why I said he needs more proof</strike> --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
:*And somehow I'm still not seeing it. Besides, he probably called him Emerson because adding "erson" onto someone's name is a HR running gag. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:*According to this --> [[Names ending in -erson]] you are correct, <strike>it still could be a double gag though. However, I'm not accepting it yet anyway. As I said, he needs to give more proof. </strike>--[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
::*'''Comment''' Although that is true, it was not a running gag at the time because this is the first appearance of it.
*'''Decline.''' Sometimes an -erson joke is just an -erson joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinexord''' Emerson is also a company that makes sinks and dishwashers, not to mention that Emerson is a real last name. Who knows where they were going? And who cares? -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

=== [[dangeresque 3]] ===

====Explanation needed?====

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

*No... it really doesn't. It's a joke. '''3-Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 04:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**Agreed. '''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Really?! I never got it till now! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declinerween, Declinerween, You're 55 million light years from Accepterween!''' (in sarcastic voice) I'm absolutely stunned. I never noticed this! Whoever posted this fun fact should be like, a professor at like Harvard, or CGNU, man! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline''' - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' ..........What? [[User:The_Pardack|The_pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' <shatner> I... dontunderstand. </shatner> --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline with an iron fist.''' That doesn't even make sense. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:30, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a bronze fist.''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I can't tell who's really being sarcastic and who's not, I think it's obvious if you just think about it for all of three seconds. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 06:26, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You! Obey the Decline Fist!''' Or at least Rewrite so I know what you're talking about. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:53 AM 21 May 2005

=== [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] ===

====Just humming along?====

The Poopsmith is in the crowd of singers at the end; however, he has taken a vow of silence, and therefore cannot sing.

*'''Weak Accept''' I'm not sure if this is really worth pointing out but hey... it's true. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline''' True, but pointless. These should be ''fun'' facts, right? [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:16, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' The same could be said for the ending of Rock Opera. Remember, they're supposed to be "Fun facts" not "lets nit pick every little detail facts". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Accept This would make a good remark, yes. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Just as long as it's listed as a Fun Fact and not a Goof, I find it okay. It's not a Goof simply because he could be lip syncing and not really making any vocal sound. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:04, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Yes, he's there. No, he's not singing. Yes, this phone is plugged in. We can tell that he's not singing by looking at him. Not fun in the least. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 20:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declome.''' Everyone's there, whether they want to sing or not. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch, GmbH|S-B, GmbH]]
*'''Decline''' And he isn't singing so... there isn't a problem... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''!d'enilceD''' Yeah, a lot of those people weren't even singing.
* And what about Pom Pom? All he can do is burble. Its just not worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This goes without saying. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Neutral.''' Both sides make some pretty good points. -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:43, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Yeah, that's a good fact. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[cheat talk]]===

===To "T" or not to "T"===

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

*'''Douglassssss...ahem, DECLINED!''' I have noticed that the Cheat's name was like this >'''t'''he Cheat (sometimes, at least)[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Uh... what's wrong with this? It's true and we note it in other very rare cases when it happens... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:35, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** Okay, so I can't find any other examples of us noting such a thing, but how often does The Cheat's name get written without the capital T anyway? I'll change my vote if you can show it to be common (emailers to Strong Bad don't count.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' A mistake on SB's part. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' definetly a goof --[[user:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Read the HR faq!!''' TBC make mistakes sometimes, we don't need to go after every piddling little detail alright? Save goofs for when it really matters, like in Radio where part of Strong Sad's shirt dissapears. '''DECLINE!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** That isn't what the FAQ says. The FAQ is advising people not to add flash artifacts (that is, oddities when we view the Flash file in .swf mode or by manipulating Flash features, unless they're PARTICULARLY notable.) It doesn't say not to add Goofs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:56, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***I believe that Donny was talking about the FAQ on homestarrunner.com. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Its true. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*<s>'''Accept.''' It is part of The Cheat's name, and to not capitalize it would be like not capitalizing any of our names. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|upset_your_balance]] 4:41, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Repeal the Accept''' and '''Decline.''' I like the point below about how the author of the email lowercased the T twice in his email and so Strong Bad was making fun of him. It may not be true, but... that'll work. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, it is part of The Cheat's name. Yet for some reason, (and maybe this is just me), I don't find the fact that Strong Bad forgot to hit a shift key once in one e-mail particularly "fun". '''DECLINED''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:21, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Gah! Good work soldier (and good eye)! Its not your fault people keep accepting this! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPT''' -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Decline!''' I mean, who really gives a hunkocrap? [[User:Fetus|Fetus!]]
*I was the one who STUFF'd this, and even though I've seen a lot of perspectives, I still stick to my post (for anyone who disagrees. <strike>'''Second for all da declines'''</strike> [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] ''[only one vote per customer]''
*My bad. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Accept'd!''' not capitalizing Teh C.'s Name would be like, capitalizing my name. Becasue it's lowercase. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' the The is part of The Cheat's name which makes it a proper noun, which means it needs to be capitalized. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
**But dude, Strong Bad is making fun of him by not capitalizing it. At least, he would be making fun of it if he cared, which he probably doesn't. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**At the risk of being repetitive ... didja notice that the author of the email referred to The Cheat as "the Cheat" ... twice? Strong Bad is making fun of the author. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline This whole fun fact is rediculus. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* I have a question. If Strong Bad is making fun of the author, why is it so subtle? Strong Bad is not one for that much subtlety when making fun of people. I think that it was a mistake that coincidentally coincided with the mistaken capitalization in the email. I mean, does Strong Bad type in ALL CAPS when trying to make fun of people who type like that? No. He half-yells it and reminds them how many internet ettiquite laws they're breaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:*At any rate, this is such a nitpicky minor thing that I really feel it's not neccessary. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline or somethin'? I dunno''' - Not capitalizing parts of "The Cheat" is very common, since in the english language you must capitalize a noun, but people sometimes forget that "The Cheat" is one noun, thus making "the Cheat" or "The cheat", but "The Cheat" must be capitalized in two places. Very easy mistake. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:13 AM, 21 May 2005
**On a side Note, I didn't realize that You had to capitalize all Nouns in English. Do Pronouns count in That? (But yeah, You do have to capitalize proper Nouns.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh crap, sorry, what I meant to say was, you DO have to capitalize all proper nouns in English, not nouns. "The Cheat" is a proper noun because it is a name, and "The" is part of his name as well as Cheat, but they are considered separate words but the same (Like a first and last name). -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 7:21 PM, 21 May 2005

===[[Stinkomanual]]===

====Saargtsson Ltd.====

The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Bosch] is an actual German company specializing in automotive, industrial and building technology, as well as consumer goods such as power tools. Gmbh is the acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

'''Rewrite:'''
The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company.

*'''<s>ALMOST</s> Accept''' Edited to a full accept. Yay! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**It's right on Saargtsson's page in the instruction manual. If you wish to consult it yourself, place your cursor below CONTROLS on the game menu, click, and go through the manual until you hit the page on Saargtsson.
***<s>I think he means where on Saargtsson-Bosch they use that phrase. In which case it's on pages such as [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm] (found by [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22equal+opportunity%22+site%3Abosch.com Google], in small text on the right) '''Rewrite''' to be more consise, maybe:</s>
***:<s>The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is from the company [http://www.bosch.com/ Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH] which claims the same thing.</s>
::<s>--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:29, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*<s>'''Decline'''. Bosch isn't called Saargtsson-Bosch. It's called Bosch. The word "Saargtsson" isn't found anywhere on Bosch's website, or anywhere else for that matter except for here and H*R. "<company> is an equal opportunity employer" is a very common phrase that can't be linked to any particular company without more evidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:32, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
**'''Second'''. Somebody's got a clue here. [[User:Eritain the Peculiar|Eritain the Peculiar]] 00:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Decline''' phlip is right. Google it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>
*Sorry. Misread stuff. I forgot it actually said "Bosch" in the manual - I thought the link between H*R and Bosch was that the company's actual name was Saargtsson-Bosch, which it isn't. '''Rewrite''' It still needs to be more concise:
*:The quote for Saargtsson ("Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer.") is attributed to "Saargtsson-Bosch GmbH". [http://www.bosch.com/ Robert Bosch GmbH] is a German automotive company which does [http://www.bosch.com/en/careers/country/china.htm claim this].
:--[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:14, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Slightly embarrassed second''' Aaaand I saw what he said and assumed the same thing. Lesson of the day: quotation marks are your friends. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
:*'''Also second''' that sounds better -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
:*'''Second''' Shorter = better -- [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline.''' The "equal opportunity employer" thing is pretty standard stuff. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** True... but that's not what this fact is about. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I took the liberty of adding the "Gmbh" stuff to the main article. That's not in dispute here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''WHOA!''' I had to rub my eyes while reading this. I'm sorry, I thought I was on HRWiki, not GERMANWIki. I mean, what are you saying, you lazy crap for crap! '''Massive REWRITE Above All Other Things Rewritable!''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''NOTE TO ALL VOTERS!!!''' I think most of the "decline" votes on this are musunderstanding the fact in question. Which I myself am guilty of. The "equal opportunity employer" is ''not'' part of the fact. The fact is that "Bosch GmbH" is part of Saarg's name, and that "Robert Bosch GmbH" is a real company. There is nothing about that non-fact-worthy that I can see. The "equal opportunity employer", and phlip and my confusion earlier, only work to obfuscate the real meaning, so it SHOULD get a rewrite, but not a decline... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accepts the rewritten version.''' -- SBEmail22
*'''Senator, I SECOND that''' I as well accept the rewritten version. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]

===[[labor day]]===

====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

*AH! COULD BE! '''Decline at once!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's Magically Declined!''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hearts! Stars! Declines!''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34 11 May 2005
*'''They're After Me Lucky Declines!''' ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>wow, so many '''Declines'''</strike> After further review, i'm changing my vote to '''neutral''' ---[[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]]
**'''Comment'''Actually it's more of a question, What is the point of voting "Neutral"?-[[Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Insert Lucky Charms related Decline pun here.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*seemed to me like it was just making fun of pretty much any cereal commercial that uses slogans like that, so '''decline'd'''. --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 23:42, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm not in the mood to be clever, so... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unlike Strong Bad, this DECLINE actually references Lucky Charms''' Or maybe not. Stilled declined though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''<s>This Decline is part of a balanced breakfast'''.</s>--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Send in this fact with proof of purchase to get your free Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*<strike>'''Very Weak Decline.''' OK ... so, why *doesn't* he want to get caught?</strike> -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Uh... accept? ''{is pummeled by angry mobs}'' '''DECLINE''', I meant '''DECLINE'''! Seriously. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
*'''Comment'''. Tomstiff has a point... why does Strong Bad say this if its not a reference? --[[User:fakename|fakename]]
**But he still declined it, so what's the point? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' The Trix rabbit doesn't want to be caught by the kids; Barney doesn't want to be caught by Fred Flintstone while he's stealing Fred's Fruity Pebbles. So there's at least two ''other'' things he could be referencing, if it even is a reference, which I'm not so sure it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Agreed. TBC do have a tendency to write silly, random jokes that don't appear to make any sense whatsoever (Thoraxcorp.com and the Stinkoman 20x6 manual are chock full of 'em). It's completely possible that this isn't a reference at all. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Upgrading to full decline. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno why else Strong Bad would be saying "I Hope I don't Get Caught".. I mean, obviously there are many things he could be referencing. Personally to me the Lucky Charms one makes the most sense because that the Trix Rabbit does not want to get caught stealing the cereal, same with Barney. But only Lucky Charms has the spokesperson (i.e. the person of whom the cereal belongs to) trying to not get caught. I am still unsure but I think its a valid fact, though whether it is fun or not remains to be seen. But if he is not paradying anything..it seems like a non sequitur...Just a comment --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]00:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)(<s>Changed decline vote to '''Neutral'''</s>)
**Yeah, you know what? I am going to be bold here and '''Accept''' this. Mainly cause I don't see any other reason for Strong Bad to say this you know? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**This is a general reference to lots of kids' cereal commercials which involve someone trying to steal cereal from kids or kids trying to steal cereal from someone else. Not only is there Lucky, Trix Rabbit and Barney, there is also the Cookie Crook from Cookie Crisp.
*'''Comment'''. OH! Barney as in Barney Rubble! I thought you meant Barney the purple dinosaur...
**^that would be a much more interesting cartoon....--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline''' I always thought he said "I hope I don't get caught" because you're supposed to taste the cereal in your esophagus and it could get caught in your esophagus. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]===

====Invisible bug???====
When Homestar runs into a bug, there is no bug. The bug only appears at the end.
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I'd really like to know why people have such a problem with this fact. It's true... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' It's not that it's wrong, it's just not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' No, he was running so fast that you couldn't see it. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' I noticed this too, but never thought to add it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Sorcended!!! I mean, second'd'''--[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Second''' Running so fast you couldn't see it my eye! --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''(Almost) Accept''' The aid of flashbooklets helps on this one. But I'm not really sure if it needs to be noted. To be honest, I checked for the bug before I read this, so it might be valid. --[[User:weirdguy|weirdguy]]
*'''Accept'''. I noticed this, and thought it was funny... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:13, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' So?? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 16:12, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' It's true. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:33, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*The pessemist that I am I attempted to discover exactly how and why this fact was false. I watched it several times over and tried to come up with some rationale for how the bug does not show up. In the end though I have to say that this is true, and it is interesting enough to stay '''Accept'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:58, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

====Everybody Knows It?====
[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]] is a restaurant [http://www.dairyqueen.com chain] that was founded in 1940 in Kankakee, Illinois. It is best known for its line of "soft-serve" ice cream products.
*'''Accept.''' We have links to IHOP. Why not Dairy Queen? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:35, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Also links to Sonic, Winn-Dixie, Hardee's, Sbarro, Del Taco, Chick-fil-A, and Big Boy. I'm sure there are more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' You'd be surprised what some people don't know. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' sure, why not? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:47, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' DQ is no McDonald's or Subway, (there's only one in my town!) and you have to admit it's an interesting nickname. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This fact is fine, particularly because I'm not sure all parts of the country (not to mention other countries) have Dairy Queens. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:14, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Good with me. Continue, brave Fun Facter! -Walking Armless
*'''Cool Cool (aka accept)''' I WENT TO DQ YESTERDAY!!! --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'Tis True Pom Pom, 'Tis True, so '''Accept!''' -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:51 PM, 21 May 2005

====Quacks like a Bubs====
A "[[wikipedia:Quackery|quack]]" is an untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment
*Trogga's pushing it again. '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Sure, why not, if it's true. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
*'''Decline''' A very common phrase that's a tad too obvious. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 23:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I didn't know it. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:32, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Most poeple should know what a quack is... and if you don't i'm sorry --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 01:52, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept'''. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Weak Decline''' It's true, but it's common knowlage--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

====Elijah Wood====
A [http://images.google.com/images?&q=blue+ones search for "blue ones"] at images.google.com displays a picture of Elijah Wood (among other things).
*'''Accept.''' I don't know why (maybe it's the goofy picture), but I find this very funny. And I think it's relevant enough to Strong Sad's online search to merit inclusion under either the Trivia or Remarks section. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:09, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not particularly relevant to H*R, I'm afraid. Though it IS kinda weird. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 18:51, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''The Second Ones''' --[[User: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:40, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''I realize that.''' But it was just so... I dunno, ''bizarre.'' I didn't originate this fact myself; I noticed it while backtracking through the page's history, and it struck me as funny enough to be shared. I can already sense that this fact won't make the cut, but at least it will have a short life here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Intriguing as it may be, this simply isn't the place for it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:02, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Probably referring to his eyes. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This ranks right down there with Aunt Gert. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**It might not be good enough for the article, but it's not as bad as ''that''.
* Sigh, you people just don't get it, do you. FUN. FACT. This is the only fact I've seen in a while that really fits that term. And what don't you get about it? Isn't it SLIGHTLY coincidential that Strong Sad said that he searched for the blue ones and found something kind od disturbing (he didn't exactly say it, but you know that's what he meant.)? I think this would be perfect for a Fun Fact...for now. If this gets taken off google then the Fun Fact should be dropped (even changing it to say "at one point" would make it lose its luster.) Oh, I never actually voted, did I. '''Accept, at least for now.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:19, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Calm down Mr "I know the real Foofoo Grass". People are declining it because its not RELEVENT not because its not interesting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept'''. This is actually one of the more intreguing Fun Facts I have ever seen (and one of the only ones I really actually persued cause it intregued me). I say let it on. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' All other arguments aside, this fun fact doesn't work because it's temporary. Eventually, some other (more search-relevant) pictures will replace the Ellijah Wood photo and this won’t make sense. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**Indeed. '''Second'''. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:43, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept''' They never actually say that Strong Sad searched Google, but I think it can be safely inferred, in which case I think this is one awesomely fun fact. I think it's also safe to assume that TBC did the search and knew what it was that they were indirectly referencing... and even if they didn't, I think it's worth recording, since future fans will likely be curious as to what was on the other side of the "blue ones" search when the toon was released. It should be revised, however, to say "At the approximate time that the toon was released..." since the search result is almost certain to change relatively soon. - Dingell
**'''Second''' [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**But that doesn't prove they were talking about the Elijah Wood image. And curious future users? Who cares? What, we're going to list everything an image search for "Blue Ones" will bring up? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***I think it's a funny coincidence. I don't think TBC had it in mind, but it's an interesting observation. It should at least be put on the discussion page of Bug In Mouth Disease for people to see. And as said before, that picture won't always come up on a google image search for "blue ones", so it should be edited to "At the time this toon first came out..." --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**** But WHY would the Elijah Wood pic have to be singled out? Nobody has given one good reason as to why beyond "its interesting". Thats not a reason, thats an opinion. This fact has no place on the wiki. If people are curious, let them do their own image search. Or better yet, just post a link to google's results for "blue ones" and we can be done with this damned fun fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****I have *yet* to figure out why this is so fascinating to people. If you page through the results, there's a picture of girls in bikinis. Personally, I think that's *far* more interesting, but I ain't writin' a fun fact about it! Maybe there's some kinda Frodo-voodoo thang goin' on here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:04, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
******It's fascinating because many people like "strange but true" facts, especially considering (A) you wouldn't expect to find the picture using that particular search, (B) it's almost the very first result, (C) Elijah Wood is well known, and (D) the picture is kinda creepy. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:48, 12 May 2005 (UTC) — ''P.S.'' That bikini picture wasn't nearly worth the effort to find it. What a tease.
*******However, a picture of girls in bikinis would be better attributed to fact that Strong Sad got "nothing pleasant" [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 19:39, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' The picture in question could be uploaded to the wiki. Then, it wouldn't matter whether the original eventually wasn't on the first page of Google's results, because we could just link to our copy.
**No! NO! Stop it! Back off! Back the F*** off! IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COMES UP ON THE "BLUE ONES" GOOGLE SEARCH. THEY WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT ELIJAH WOOD. Whats worse, if you do image searches at Lycos.com or Altavista.com the Frodo pic? Doesn't come up. Sorry, "being sort of weird" doesn't entitle the fact to be placed on the Wiki. And NOBODY has answered my question for why this is relevent to the toon other than "It came up with the google search".[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Why are you yelling? The last I checked, the declines outnumber the accepts nearly 2 to 1; there's no real danger that this fact will make it to the page. Even if the opposite were true, we can still discuss these matters civilly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
***To speak to your specific question, somebody out there (not me) wondered what Strong Sad would have found (if Strong Sad were real) when he searched for "blue ones". The Elijah Wood picture was what he or she found and, being sufficiently strange, qualified as "nothing pleasant" to this unknown originator and to at least a few of us as well. It's a tenuous link, perhaps, but that's what STUFF is for. That's why I put my version ''here'' first, not on the page itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Because its annoying listening to acceptors accepting this fact based on "its kinda weird". The "nothing pleasent anyway" is meant to be a generic statement. They most likely didn't have anything in mind when they made it. There are other fun facts where the declines are overwhealming and people are still being rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*****Dude...its a cartoon. No need to get so worked up, <s>especially because dot com is correct in observing that a. It is not exactly pleasent, b.people would actually find it amusing, unlike many a' fun fact and c. the declines already are winning.</s> --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****** Okay repeating what the other guy just said is not cool. Kay? If I wanted to re-read what Dot Com said I'd've just scrolled up. Save your finger wagging for if I ever break the rules. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
******* What is wrong with agreeing with someone? But whatever..I am a noob here so I shall change what I said.--[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******Whoa, Donny. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki:Welcoming_committee#Don.27t_Bite Don't bite] Go easy on the guy. Tony, don't change what you said because Donny yelled at you. If you ment it, keep it up there. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 18:17, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
******* Its more for effect than me trying to antagonize someone. That, and I hate it when someone has to have their say, only to repeat what the last guy just said. Bah. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' While this is a great fact, there is no appropriate place for it on the page. Possibly there will be in teh future, but now, it is sadly not so. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 2:47 PM May 14, 2005
*'''Decline''' It's just like saying "Googling the word 'virus' will bring up a picture of Tim Allen." It's extremely irrelevant. But it's still good for people to argue over. [[User:Saargtsson-Bosch,GmbH|S-B,GmbH]]
**The difference is, whereas Strong Bad never searched for "virus", Strong Sad did actually mention using an internet search engine to fine "Blue Ones". Whether that makes this fact relevant I don't know, but it is actually fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*** But it still isn't relevent. Like I said, they didn't specify a search engine and the Frodo pic only shows up on Google. I'm not even sure why its interesting at all. "Blue ones" causes Frodo to come up '''because his eyes are blue'''. Its not weird. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****I hate it when someone has to have their say (''read:'' get in the last word), only to repeat what he himself has already said. Bah. --P810A
**** I hate it when someone whines about someone getting the last word, just to try and get the last word. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment.''' Donny, will you SHUT UP already?! We get it! You don't want this to be a Fun Fact! There's no sense in standing up and trying to persuade everyone. The purpose of a VOTE is that everyone can get their OWN idea in, NOT ONE PERSON'S. So "BACK OFF BABY." Decline it and then mind your own business.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I hate it when someone criticizes a noob for repeating and agreeing with another member, and then repeats his own point of view over and over again just in case we missed it the first few times. *ahem* -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Common Taters''' - I'm sorry, but will everyone PLEASE stop making a huge deal out of this? This has to be the most ridiculous argument I have ever seen in my entire 12 years of living. Really. I'm just going to get this back on topic for actual debating, if everyone is done bickering about nothing.
So, after some thinking, '''Weak Decline.''' This is very true, and also very strange, but it shouldn't really count as a fact, considering how you can just click on the link and already know what's on the page. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:40 PM, 21 May 2005

====Whom made a mistake?====
When the Announcer says "whom", in an attempt to sound sophisticated, it is grammatically incorrect. As the pronoun that would go there is not "Him shot Caleb" but rather "He shot Caleb", the question should use "who".
*As the writer, I '''Accept''' it, but I put it here because I'm not sure if it's enough for a fun fact. I think the grammatical use of "whom" isn't exactly widely known, but some people might disagree. Also I'm not sure if it should go in Remarks or Explinations. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 09:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I know, I know, it's just a joke. I know, I know, not every joke requires an explanation. But speaking as a devoted silly fact slayer, I think this is worth a mention. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Definetly depends on what section this is meant to go in. I would say remarks. '''Accept'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second. Which means accept. :P'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Few people know the rules of "who" and "whom" but it's still a grammatical error and therefore I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah its worth being there, though you might consider adding the fact that Strong Bad is famous for his anal-retentive attitudes on grammar yet he does not react to this common mistake. '''Accept''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is true and worthy of note...DELETED. That's what you thought I would say, right? Well, too bad. '''Accept''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:58, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I'm pretty sure TBC were under the impression that we should already know this, as that's the joke. No need for fun factization, it's pretty obvious. (to me at least)
** While most will realize that its wrong, they may not get WHY its wrong. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This may or may not have been intentional, and the fact that it's grammatically incorrect is obvious. No need state the obvious. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
**So if I walk up to the average guy on the street and ask "When should you gramatically use 'whom' rather than 'who' in a question?" he'd be able to tell me? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:30, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
***I would think so, yes. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
****Not everyone has the grasp of the English language that you do. In fact, the MAJORITY of people don't. :P [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 07:42, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I never noticed this. And the fact that Strong Bad did not criticize it makes it fun enough to be a fact. [[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 01:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined.''' This is a FUN fact? Maybe for an englilsh teacher, but not for me. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*''Accept/Comment'' Actually, it's quite the oppisite. An english teacher would think it's common sense.
*'''Accept''' It's true, and a lot of people don't understand when to use who vs. whom. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:16, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bugface====
The way Homestar yells "Bug Swallow! BUG SWALLOW!" is reminiscent of the way Strong Bad yells "Rose face! ROSE FACE!" in rock opera.
''Due to ballot stuffing, the entire vote will be restarted. All votes except Jay's (since this is Jay clearing everything) have been deleted, so we're starting with a fresh entry.''
*'''"I'm-a gonna accept."''' This is a good fact, or at least I think so. It should say something about a paniced scream about getting hurt, usually capatilized when they say it a 2nd time.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 18:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' This is becoming something of an edit war, and the poster who added it won't STOP adding it, so I'm putting it to the vote. Vote away, people. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*I stick by my '''Accept''' [[User talk:greg2point0|greg2point0]]
*<strike>'''Accept''' Just once this time =P [[User talk:Hawk-Eye-100|Hawk-Eye-100]] 3:49</strike> ''(This is the same user as the above vote. Check the History.)''
** {smack} That was the sound of my head hitting the keyboard. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* Jay, why are we even voting on this if its just the one guy who thinks it should be accepted? His cheating should've dis-qualified this fact from the get go. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
** To make a point, I suppose. He WASN'T STOPPING. He was even editing my "don't add this" note. I'm trying to take the higher ground here. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Mere coincidence. And breaking the rules isn't cool. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 4:16 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Also comment that just because someone tried to cheat the vote doesn't mean the fact itself should be scrapped immediately, in my opinion. It should wait the two weeks from when the vote was restarted and considered unanimously declined (unless someone other than this cheater gives an accept vote of course). --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 11:47, 11 May 2005
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' IMHO, the '''four''' user names and ''two'' IP addresses involved in this incident should be banned permanently. This Wiki looks the way it does because the vast majority of the community follows the rules, both written and implied. Those who don't shouid not be welcome here (again IMHO). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and permaban the IP's. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:34, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meh, accept.'''(Upgraded vote: '''Meh, Very weak accpet.''') This guy's awfully devoted to getting his fact up, and it ''Italic text''is''Italic text'' true. Heck, I didn't even realize it until I read this. Anything that does so should work as a fun fact, no? So I don't see what's wrong with it but I think this should be in "remarks." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Sigh...TK, one guy does all the voices for the characters (Powered by The Cheat, Marzipan, and Teeg Dougland aside). Of course every once in awhile there is going to be similiar sounding dialouge. And just because a fact is true, doesn't make it fun. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
***Right. We could say "this is the first 'toon where Strong Bad tapes his head to the TV," and we wouldn't be wrong, but who cares? Anyway, I doubt that there's any real connection between these - they sound kinda similar, but that's it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
****Yeah, I guess...I'm going to demote my vote to '''Meh, very weak accept.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:39, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>I agree, it should go in "remarks". So '''Second'''. [[User:Supyall|Supyall]]</strike> ''(What is your deal? You can only vote once!)''
***Hmmmm. Where have I seen this user name before? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*We gave him repeated warnings and he's still breaking the rules. I say ban him. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Three-day suspension as of now. If he does it again it'll be indefinite. We warned him multiple times. Does he think we're stupid or something? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' - Dingell
*Whoever keeps putting this up, FYAD. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:59, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Dare I ask what that stands for? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 03:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*** ...you and die ;) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:12, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Oh. You learn something new every day, I guess... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:08, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*Despite the chaox of this... Voting process, I say '''Accept'''. Could be a refferance...''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:54, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* As another mighty fun fact slayer said: Could be's are not cool. [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*'''I'll Accept your FACE!!''' to a bloody...pulp... --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 11:33, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Not that it really matters, but is this an accept or decline?
*No no no no no! VERY small liason. VERY unlikely to be reference. VERY declined. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline I wasn't going to step in, but considering the surprizing number of accept votes, I have to. This is coincidence people, nothing more. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

====The Blue Ones====
Strong Sad's many mentions of "the blue ones" are a reference to the email "property of ones", where several other types of "ones" are discussed.
*'''Now ''this'' fact is totally worth my time and consideration DECLINED!!''' Very, very different type of "one" being referred to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**Seconded -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*Oh, for the love of...it's a ''word'' people! We're not here to keep taps on every time a character says something twice! '''Decline'''[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second'd!!!'''What he said--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Bupkis'd''' Ummm ... decline! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*If there were ever a candidate to be immediately '''Deleted''' (skipping the STUFF process), this is it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''And once again so as to make me sound like a broken record: Not everything is meant to refer to something else.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second this "one".''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What!? No! No!! No!!! I mean, no! Never! No! What? No!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' and STFU. (I'm in a bad mood today, deal with it.) [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:00, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
* Decline. No. Just--just no. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:21, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Definitely the wrong kind of ones. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:30, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''EXTREMELY STRONG DECLINE''' no not at all. I'm right, your wrong
*'''Well, there's more than one One.... Declined...''' No->No->No. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 04:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE³''' This is the biggest stretch EVER! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''De-freakin'-cline''' What made you think that??? -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 5:45 PM, 21 May 2005

====Egg-free Diet====
This is the first cartoon in years to not contain any Easter eggs.
*'''Decline as written''' Is it? I'm not sure. But "in years" is unprofessional. If you can provide an actual time span - and be accurate - then maybe you've got something here... if said time span is impressive enough. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I put on my detective hat and had a look. The last eggless toon was [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], a month and a half ago. Before that was the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] 3 months ago. [[Under Construction]] and most of the [[Puppet Stuff]] is eggless. If it is rewritten "The first cartoon (except April Fools features and live action) ..." then the last was [[Ballad of The Sneak]], 10 and a half months ago. Discounting music videos too, the latest was [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]], 13 months ago. '''In summary''' - as written it is false, and rewriting to make it even one year ago requires too many caveats to be interesting. '''Decline'''. Incidentally, the last eggless email was [[property of ones]], and I put that in its Trivia section. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**All right, that settles that. '''Second''' and this "fact" may as well be closed now. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 06:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Okay,''' how about "This cartoon contains no Easter eggs"? Or, better, put the Easter egg section up with "(none)" listed under it. That way, people don't have to wonder whether there were eggs but we somehow forgot to list them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
** '''Not necessary''' We don't do that for any OTHER egg-less toon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Why not?''' It would make them all more complete. Where's the harm? Besides, since people ''expect'' the eggs, it's news when there are none. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:51, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' Possibly:
<pre> Unlike most recent cartoons featuring the Freecounty, USA characters,
this one contains no easter eggs. </pre> -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15:56 May 10, 2005
*'''ATTENTION POSTERS ALL!!''' I think what the post-er was trying to say was that it was the first ''Big Toon'' in whatever years, so this needs a '''rewrite''', changing "cartoon" to "Big toon" or "toon." [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 10 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' In which case the last was [[Where's The Cheat?]] in February 25, 2002. However there have been so few "Big Toons" that my previous comment about the sample space being too small to be interesting still holds. I stick by my decline. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If a toon doesn't have an egg, it doesn't have an egg. People are smart enough to figure that out if there aren't any listed on the Toon's wiki entry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*GUYS! He means BIG toon! And He's Right! But he needs to REwrite it! '''ACCEPT BUT REWRITE FIRST!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' My only question is: what is "fun" about this fact? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
** Absolutly nothing. Its just another example of Wiki members thinking we need to document every last worthless detail. And while I appreciate rewrites, they're a pain when you have to keep changing whats being rewritten as parts of the fact are picked apart.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite.''' As others have said before, it should be noted that this is the first ''Big'' Toon to contain no Easter eggs in over three years. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:21, 11 May 2005
*'''Neutral''' While I noticed this too, I also noticed that this is the only Big Cartoon that has no credits of any kind either. Makes an interesting remark on its own, but I don't know... --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 02:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*O.K...I made up my mind: '''Decline'''. Look people, you could also say that this is the first cartoon to feature Homestar naked in a long time, but would that make it any more "fun"? I think not. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Going back to the last toon thing...actually, the last long toon was [[Shopping for Danger]], if you want to talk most recently. The last toon featuring the H*R universe was [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]], last year. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** Not exactly - Shopping for Danger DID have an Easter Egg, and SBIIJ had extra scenes after "THE END" (some people count those as Easter Eggs, even though they're not listed as such in our articles). Not as though I'm defending this fact or anything, just trying to keep out own facts straight. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' We can't start keeping track of this kinda thing... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite.''' I'd cut out "first in years" and replace it with something like: "a rarity to have no easter eggs." -Walking Armless
**(Not a vote.) Exactly.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:42, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===="Dr." Bubs====
Bubs' Doctor card says VCR repair on it, which is a reference to the email 12:00. 
Or maybe he's a CGNU graduate.
:''NOTE: We're voting on the CGNU portion, not the tiny portion.''
*<strike>'''Neutral''' The wording is very very poor, but I'll leave it to the vote. Y'no, if anyone cares about this page any more. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)</strike> Know what? I'm changing to '''Decline''' because, truth is, we really DON'T know that he's a CGNU graduate, and we don't really need the speculation. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:34, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*Bubs attends night classes at Disco Tech according to the [[Homestar Quiz]]. Perhaps they had a VCR repair course? Or maybe Bubs is just an unethical quack who tapes clocks to broken VCRs. It's possible that he went to CGNU, but since we don't know, I give it a '''Decline'''. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''So weak that its creepy decline''' GEEEEEEZZZZ OH PEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZ! YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TOO HARD!! Oh yeah and the post above mine, I agree with that so I guess this is kind of a '''second,''' too. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' Ohhhh, people with way too much, time on their hands, doo doo doo! [[User:DancingRobots| DancingRobots]]
*So because among Bubs's fake (I assume) buisness cards, there is one that says "Dr" Bubs, we assume he probably has a doctorate in something? He didn't just make it up and shove it on a card? Bubs Normal Investigator is also apparantly not affiliated with Bubs Paranormal Investigator, does that mean we should make a fun fact that Bubs must have multiple personalities, or there are several Bubs's or something? Of course not. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second'''. You see, the joke is, in the e-mail [[CGNU]], Strong Bad is offering classes in TV/VCR Repair. Bubs could have gotten his certificate. Obviously the paranormal/normal investigator is an independant joke, not relevant here. I think the idea of Bubs attending a Strong Bad class is funny enough to keep it. And to those that say he didnt neccesarily go to CGNU, I ask you this: What other school in the H*R universe has TV/VCR Repair classes? He MUST have gone to CGNU, because it is the only school. I rest my case. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 01:25, 13 May 2005
** Right. We know that. But we KNOW that Bubs tried to repair a VCR in [[12:00]]. We DON'T know that Bubs is a CGNU graduate. Without this knowledge, this is nothing more than speculation about a common use of a couple of common words. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:45, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**Exactly how "Common" is "TV/VCR Repair"? I havent used that phrase in real life, ever. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*** So you've NEVER seen an infomercial? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** ''(on the edit)'' We can't answer the "which school" because the only one we know about is CGNU - but that doesn't mean it's the only school! And we don't know Bubs went to ANY school for VCR repair. And just because you think it's funny, that's no reason to keep it in and of itself. And, BTW, was it necessary to change the title of this fact (formerly "See Gee In Bubs")? Yours makes it look too similar to vvv that one. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**It seems to me that the CGNU thing and Bubs' business cards both refer to the same real-life observation -- a lot of ads for sketchy correspondance schools prominently advertise "TV/VCR Repair" as a "major". So this is not referencing CGNU, it's just referencing a general occurrence. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:22, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*What does "See Gee In Bubs" mean anyway??? I don't get it. "Dr. Bubs" makes it clear that we are questioning his Dr. Bubs business card. "See Gee In Bubs"... doesnt mean anything to me. Please explain. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 02:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**[[mascot|See Gee In You]] --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 03:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
**OHHH Now I get it. I was reading it too literally. Well, change it back if you want. Its a wiki. Maybe make it "CNG - bUbs" --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 03:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

====Dr. Bubs Christmas====
Homestar thinking Bubs is a doctor could be a reference to [[A Decemberween Pageant]], where Bubs played Dr. Christmas.
*So weak a connection. I thought I would '''Decline''' it! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*I '''accept''' it, certainly. [[User:Cookiecaper|Cookiecaper]] 23:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Dr. Decline''' And why? There's no connection except the word "Doctor" and Bubs. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 23:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Shut up kid!''' Nah, Homestar is just being silly. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Upon further consideration, this reference is awfully weak. [[User:SilverSurfer|SilverSurfer]]
*'''Decline''' Everything is a reference to everything these days, eh? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24 10 May 2005
*'''Accept''' Even if it's not an intentional reference, it's a good catch! - Dingell
** Uh... if it's not intentional then it's not a reference. And, as thus, the "fact" is not. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 05:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
* I shoulda '''declined''' this like a million years ago! [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
* I was the person who wrote this fun fact. It was what I thought of when I saw the toon, but I understand that the connection is quite weak. Actually, I'm a little surprised no one said anything about the "could be" in there. Anyway, since most of you feel the same way, I cheerfully withdraw the fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 15:28, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**Could be's aren't usually good anyway. I'm gonna say no and hit it with a little '''uh digga digga digga digga digga digga digga DECLINED!''' -- SBEmail22
**'''Second''' -[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Grandma's Stories====
The line "Can't you see Grandma's watching her stories?" may be a reference to a Saturday Night Live comedy skit, where Adam Sandler plays a Grandmother who enjoys a television series named "My Story".
*'''Decline''' This is another case of thinking a similar joke on the same phenomenon is the origin of the joke itself. "My stories" is simply how some people refer to the soap operas they watch. Heck, George Carlin makes reference to that in an album from the '70s, and that's not the origin either -- it's just that sweet English language in action again. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 12:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deliciously Declined''' And I'm glad someone saw fit to remove the "fact" stating the stories gag was a Simpsons reference. C'mon folks, not every little detail in the HR universe is derived from something else. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding those above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' When someone refers to a TV show as a story, they're talking about a soap opera. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:41 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 20:18, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:46, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delteated!''' STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCHING again, ain't we? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you were to mention all the things this [http://www.google.com/search?q=grandma+%22watching+her+stories%22 could have come from] then we'd get a TTATOT. And while finding out what the origin of this phrase was would be good, it's probably not going to happen, and it's almost certainly not this. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:52, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's just a common saying among grandmas, like "gar-bazhe" among moms. My grandma is always referring to TV shows as "stories" - Dingell
*MAY BE != IS. '''DECLINE''' *exhales* [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED. [[User: James Craven|James Craven]]

====British Guy Show?====
Considering the accent of the TV show host in the beginning of the toon, the show Strong Sad is watching is likely the "show on Public Television hosted by that British Guy" which he mentioned wanting to watch in [[morning routine]].

*'''Accept''', If 'likely' is changed to 'possibly'. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 22:59, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
** They're still forms of the phrase "may be". '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe||Donny vs Universe]]
*Or it could be Masterpiece Theater. Who knows... who cares? Too much speculation. '''Decline, old boy''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:37, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Good thinkin there. -- Dingell
*Naaaahhhhh '''Decline''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Comment''' If I remember correctly, I think [[The Announcer]] has a British accent. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:06, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Nothing more than speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:39, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Dacline.''' I see wut you're saying, but the Caleb Rentpayer sounds more of a soap then something Public Television would view (although EVERYTHING is technically "public television" I am referring to channels like PBS, as I think SB was). I think the show SB is talking about was probably a documentary hosted by a british guy (which PBS is chock-full of.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' We're not talking about Caleb Rentpayer, we're talking about the show Strong SAD is watching... [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:08, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Rude Boy smote the Bad Fun Fact, and all was laid to declination.''' No connection. Next! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005
*'''Major Decline''' and accept Naked City fun fact. - Dingell
**'''Second''' The "this is one of them" part is what determines it for me. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT''' it is not a naked city reference it is a publicservece anocement refrens like i saw one the other day that was for drunk driving that said THIS IS ONE OF THEM then it talk about the acsident! that NC quote is barely a reference it never says this IS one of them it say this HAD TO BE one of them and it never says a time thing! [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 21:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Only accept Naked City part'''. It's a famous line. Strong Bad inflects it in the same way. I can't believe everyone thinks that this has to do with PSA's. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

*'''Decline''' Why oh why someone thought this was trivia boggles the mind. There is nothing to this "fact". She raised an eyebrow, whoopdie do. Trivia implies that someone will actually find the information interesting, nobody cares about facial expressions unless it somehow reveals something about the character (in the case of Strong Bad, it'd show that he actually has eyebrows). This just encourages the posting of worthless facts. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Then again, have we ever seen Marzipan have eyebrows?
**If you watch her character video and the SB is in Jail Cartoon you can see her eyebrows when she makes her angry face. However, we're talking about a cartoon with characters sans arms and that has a guy with a wrestling mask for a head and boxing gloves for hands. Eyebrows aren't a concern. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' [[some kinda robot|Some kinda robot]] marks the first time we see Strong Bad using a computer. So what? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 23:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept''' Lately, TBC seem to be adding new facial expressions to the characters on a regular basis (like SB's sarcastic look in "long pants"). It might be worth it to point them out. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 01:33, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''accept''' New facial expressions happen once in a while and it's interesting to note when it happens. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 05:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Strong Decline''' Why not add 'This is the first time we see Senor Cardage talk to Strong Sad' or 'This is the first time Coach Z buys something from Strong Bad' too? --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 9:30 14 May, 2005
*Accept Sure, why not. It's worth adding. *shrug* [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 15:25, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
'''Srong Accept'''come one peoples (prenounced 'pee-oe-puhls') this is the first time we have evidence of Marzipan having eyebrows period, up until this she was like my friend Jeff who had no eyebrows--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

*'''NO'D!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nay''' [[User:71.110.2.216|71.110.2.216]] 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:08, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. There's nothing more to say. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''hahahaha NO''' Like I said, check your frickin facts! --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]]
**'''SECOND.''' Absolutely not the case![[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:38, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

*'''Accept.''' Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' Garage sales aren't in garages. They're called garage sales because one usually sells the old junk that's been sitting in one's garage. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Utterly useless fun fact. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''--[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 18:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' And I've seen a yard sale in a garage too. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:27, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Garage sale, yard sale, they can be used interchangably. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''. Garage sale is a colloquialism. It doesn't mean that the sale has to happen ''in'' the garage. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' The garage sales I've seen actually take place in garages. I won't be sad though if this fact gets voted down. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' What he said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 04:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:21, May 8 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Nighthawk|Nighthawk]] 9:50, May 12 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this obvious, but also the term "garage sale" is a blanket term, and doesn't necessarily imply the sale is inside a garage. From [http://www.webster.com Webster.com]:
::Main Entry: '''garage sale''' 
::Function: noun
:: a sale of used household or personal articles (as furniture, tools, or clothing) held on the seller's own premises - [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the other declines! Talk about a waste of valuable mission time! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' You're being way too literal, seriously. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Tehngion|Tehngion]] 19:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Fun facts are, by definition, fun. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:30, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with modifier''' Since the place is the field where the "garage sale" takes place, it could be even part of a flea market. --[[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 10:42 ET 12 May 2005.
*'''Decline''' We use the term Band-Aid even when the bandage is a different brand, and we use the term garage sale even when they're not in a garage. Also it seems unlikely that Strong Bad's house would have a garage because we've never seen any of the brothers Strong with a car and thus the only reason he called it a garage sale was because the email said "garage sale".[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And then the Decline smote the Useless funfact, and all the land was laid to sanity...''' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 05:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
**'''SECOND'''There is a fireburt toy in [[army]] it's in an easter egg. -DaBorg
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''SECOND''' ----[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:33, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*<strike>'''Comment''' Not sure if anyone else noticed it or if it just doesn't count, but what about the appearance of Marzipan's answering machine in [[personal favorites]]? That wasn't an easter egg.</strike> I just realized the error of my comment. I'll go ahead and '''Accept''' this fun fact. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Even though army was not the introduction of the cheat commandos, I highly doubt the price would be "coincidentally" the email number of army, especially considering the prices of all the ones that are directly from emails.[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 18:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

====DA?====
Strong Bad makes fun of the word da when he uses it all the time. (like, in every strong bad email)

*'''Decline.''' Be bold: delete bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:00, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I don't think he's neccessarily making fun of it. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Decline'''I see where you're going with this, which is kidna the problem. It's a little obvious and pointless[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:personal favorites]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third''' --Da Borg
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Decline Both''' -- I think that whenever there is this much debate over either option, both should be scrapped. I mean, if it is not clear to a majority, why would it be a reference by the brothers? [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- They're both reasonable enough to mention. As a big fan of Survivor, I'd love to accept A and decline B, but I must say that B seems a bit more likely, given that A is a connection that few people would make (Ryan S. appeared on the show a total of three times), whereas B would at least be noticed by the "Ryan S." in question. Who knows for sure... but it must be a reference to something, so we should provide some hypothetical explanation. - Dingell

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Commentary by: ME!!!'''ok ok ok, this is what I think SB's trying to say: he's telling the conputer to quit talking back but he's referring to crosstalk and misusing it. Sorry it's badly worded but it's kinda complicated--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''You're missing the point!!''' We already know that it's based on G.I. Joe! The whole point is that Matt is imitating the voice of Cobra Commander, but not his voice actor. Accepting this fact is like saying "If you imitate the voice of Homestar, then you are imitating/referencing/making-fun-of Matt Chapman because he is the voice actor." If three other people add to my '''Decline''', we can get The Eggman to close this fact and put it out of its misery. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 14:44, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral''' So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::*Thanks for the defense FireBird. To me, this is not a "could be" fun fact, it IS a reference. Actually I think it's a combination reference to the snot bubble / nosebleed thing in anime; it seems a lot of people in anime / manga have fluids coming out the nose! But yes, just like "dot dot dot" and the "mushroom clouds" it's a direct reference to an anime/manga cliche. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32
*'''Yes to the first one, No to the second''' - I think it is definitly a reference to hanaji. After all, why else would he suddenly have a runny nose (homestar didn't ever have one before so I think. As to the MK reference, I don't think so.__[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:13, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline You can make anything a reference to anything else if you try hard enough. I just wouldn't say this "reference" is an acutal reference. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Common Taters''' - Now, just hold up a dang second now. That stuff is snot, my friend. Not blood. True, in anime, nosebleeds are used to show arousal, but that stuff ain't blood and 1-up doesn't look aroused to me. Soooo, Rewrite it. Snot bubbles take place in anime too. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:36 AM, 21 May 2005
*'''Ahem, no'''TBC would definatly NOT have one of their characters getting sexually aroused, this is a family site and therefore not "Humpty Hump" for lack of a better phrase.--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
====Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F====
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fun fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined''' by a score of 4-12. Discussion moved to [[Talk:trevor the vampire]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:34, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:pizzaz]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is programed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
(UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' As "the person who forgot to sign his/her post" said, it really takes away from an otherwise hillarious gag.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====limozeen====
Limozeen: But they're in space is almost a direct reference to the flopped saturday morning show Josie and the Pussy Cats in space.

'''Verdict:''' A fact very much like this went through the STUFF process and was '''Declined'''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:57, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.
**Why is this still here? I made the above, unsigned post like two months ago. (Maybe not.) Well, since it is unsigned and it needs to be signed, I'll just do it here: '''ACCEPT, YA DIG?!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 21:48, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' - Yepper dee doo dah markeley. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:27 AM, 21 May 2005

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:33, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====Face the Camera====
This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally The Brothers Chaps keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:57, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Definitely a ''Diff'rent Strokes'' reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:32, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' TBC does like to be silly with their names, such as their Bill Bellamy schoolbell. While the bell is a specific reference, I'm sure any name with "bell" would have worked. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion was moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:14, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Accept''' The clock needs to know the difference between AM and PM. It's clear Homestar can tell the difference by looking out the window, but what good is that if he can't look until his alarm wakes him? - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 08:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:00, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*Decline It may actually be, but until TBC confirm it, it's just speculation. -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Declined... oh, that's rough''' I've seen this joke on Married with Children too. It's probably been used a lot of other places as well. And again with the dreaded "may be"... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline It's just a sound effect :| -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Second -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline Wether or not you're right, the fangly fish is still a made up animal. So it doesn't have to reflect nature at all. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Seconded Strong Bad is smart :) -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005
*Decline This is way to obvious to need noting. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Comment.''' Number one, you used "to" in the wrong context. Number two, is it really obvious? I mean, can anyone just look at the SBEmail menu and automaticaly say "Oh, there are 78 Compy SBEmails" even if they've never seen a SBEmail in their life? It's not like there's a glaring sign saying "78 COMPY SBEMAILS, 40 TANDY SBEMAILS". -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:54, 18 May 2005
*Oh no, I said the word "to" in the wrong "context"(that word has no context BTW). Anyway I was referring to the fact that the e-mail marks the end of the compy 386, that much is obvious. As for tandy having 40 e-mails and compy having 78, that belongs on the strong bad e-mails article, not the virus one. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Weak Accept / Rewrite''' - I also second AtionSong's vote. If you revise it by making it seem like a fact rather than just a comment, as stated above, then it comes together as a solid fact. It's not a signifigant detail, but it's worth noting. At least to me. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] - 11:16 PM, 21 May 2005

====Bubs' Belt====
At one point of the email Bubs' belt disappears. I think that this may be because his belt is basically the same color as the grass. It would have the same effect as if there were a green-screen: it would disappear.
*'''Decline=Very Yes.''' Aunt Gert Alert! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline No it's because of the over 400,000 viruses. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''All right Edgar, drop a Decline on 'em!''' - No, Bubs' belt is slightly darker than the grass if you look close enough. It's the viruses, that's all. - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:19 PM, 21 May 2005

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
===Peacy Prize===
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:caffeine]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:16, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===Bushes===
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been move to [[Talk:caffeine]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Different Colors====
The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. This is already in the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4#Level 4 Boss: Saargtsson (Transcript)|transcript]], so no need for it to be here. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
*Accept -- [[AnarchyBalsac]]

====Rose Blake====
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:07, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

====Stlunko====
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:08, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bronco Trolleys]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).

'''VERDICT:''' The fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)