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2008-04-05T13:25:03Z

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licensed

2008-02-23T17:17:59Z

Blendage: /* Fun Facts */ Added Lappy typing goof

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[[Image:Sbemail190.png|thumb|"I'm a public flasher!"]]

Strong Bad discusses what sort of merchandise he has licensed.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, [[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]], {{Film|Senor Cardgage}} (Voice only), {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Pom Pom}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Papa Cardgage's PUDDIN' PATCH]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Tuesday, February 19, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 4:18

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Save the gross stuff up at the back of your throat, and hock it at an unsuspecting email. ''{brings up the email}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: famous</div>
Ok Strong Bad, you and the Cheat are like famous now, 
but why haven't you licensed anything yet? Like where's the 
strong Bad novels and fluffy pillows, I need more Strong 
Bad in my day, come on man help me out! 
From yours truly 
Pilmple-Faced Bill from receiving
</blockquote>
''{reads "Pilmple-Faced Bill" as written}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey! I paid that pilmple-faced bill months ago! You gotta tell grody Blackhead-Flaced Janice from accounting to update her records! ''{clears screen}'' As for being famous and licensing stuff, you've got it all wrong. You don't need to be famous to liscense stuff. Just look at Biscuitdoughhandsman. He licensed his likeness to a paper towel company—

''{Cut to shot of paper towel roll with pictures of Biscuitdoughhandsman and Basil.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —years ago, but no one knows who the crap he is.

'''OLD LADY:''' Get this, Vera, it's exorbitantly absorbent!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Shut up, lady! ''{cut back to Lappy}'' No, the true sign of being famous is in the ''unlicensed'' stuff! And we're all over that! In fact, we've got our own application process for becoming an officially licensed ''unlicensed'' seller of Strong Bad and The Cheat knock-offs.

''{An application form flies onto the screen with the header "So you wanna be an officially licensed unlicensed seller of Strong Bad & The Cheat knock-offs" and entries for "Name", "Number", and "I'll get back to you".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The main requirements are that the country of manufacture has—

''{"Country of manufacture" page comes up with a country-like shape in the middle. Names keep appearing and being crossed out.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —changed name five times since I was in seventh grade, that you sell your wares from a—

''{"Type of Store" page comes up, with a note "(Circle one)".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —blanket, ''{a "Dirty Blanket" appears and watches fill it}'' or inside a trench coat, ''{A "Dirty Trenchcoat" appears and watches fill it}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' that you always refer to the selling of our items—

''{"You gotta yell this" page comes up, with a cartoony figure of a man and a table with 4 watches}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —as "numba one bargain!", ''{the phrase appears in a speech bubble}'' and that—

''{"The Two Guys" page comes up with pictures of Strong Bad and The Cheat}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —one of us has to have a human nose.

''{Noses appear on both. Cut back to the Lappy with a clear screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' One of our ''{he skips typing the word "our"}'' primary unlicensed licensees is shady daycares. You know, the kind that are open 24 hours and are surrounded by barbed wire.

''{Cut to outside view of Papa Cardgage's PUDDIN' PATCH, where a stylized version of Strong Bad holding a 24 HRS. book, a picture of The Cheat as a mouse with antennae and a honey pot, a human-faced Senor Cardgage saying "I TAKE KIDS", and a cross-eyed monster wearing a "GUFF" T-shirt are drawn. Above the entrance is the word "RESTROOM," which is crossed off.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' They ''love'' to illegally use trademarked characters to earn desperate parents' trust.

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' ''{singing to the tune of "Frère Jacques"}'' Where is Tompkins? Where is Cole Slaw? Here I am!

''{Cut to a rear view of the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Man, if I ever have kids, I can't wait to drop 'em off at the puddin' patch every morning on my way to the dog tracks!

''{Cut back to the Lappy with a clear screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Another great knock-off is DVDs. The ones that are slight variations of slightly animated kids' movies. The kind they put right next to the check-out line, so Grandma might accidentally mistake it for the real thing. And they have titles like:

''{Cut to an orange background, each movie appears as Strong Bad mentions it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' "The Secret Princess and Her Oppressive Authority Figure 4" and the always popular, "Jungle Animals in Decidedly Non-Jungle Situations". ''{The scene dims}'' Novelty confections have to be my favorite growth sector of the unlicensed merchandise industry,

''{Cut to a box with four "CHEETS".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' like these sugar-crusted marshmallow The Cheats, or this gummi ''{pan up quickly to a Strong Bad shaped blob with a human nose on a stick}'' gel-ular pop, from Strong Badge: The Movie. ''{A logo for said movie appears in the bottom right.}'' And who wouldn't want to rot the teeth ''{The blob disappears, replaced by a "Strong Brush"}'' right out of their kid's head with this spinning Strong Bad sugar toothbrush?

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, Strong Bad, look!

''{Cut to Coach Z and Strong Bad in the computer room. Coach Z is holding a piñata of Strong Bad. Strong Bad turns around to face Coach Z.}''

'''COACH Z:''' You're twice!

'''STRONG BAD:''' A Strong Bad piñata!? Where'd you get that?

'''COACH Z:''' Bubs.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Bubs!?

''{Cut to close-up of Coach Z}''

'''COACH Z:''' Yeah, he's the fellow who runs the concession stand—

''{Cut back}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I know who he is! He's an unlicensed unlicensed seller! I've been trying to shut him down for years. Come on, The Cheat!

''{He jumps off his stool and runs off the screen, The Cheat follows.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Hurried The Cheat noises}''

'''COACH Z:''' Ahhhh, what else?

''{Cut to rear of Bubs' Concession Stand. Bubs is wearing a trench coat and talking to Pom Pom}''

'''BUBS:''' —and I just got in this shipment of Strong Bad brand ferret ointment. ''{Pulls open his coat, revealing merchandise.}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{Bubbles}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' There he is, The Cheat!

'''BUBS:''' ''{Quickly closes his coat}'' Uh-oh, store's closed.

''{Bubs points to the right, Pom Pom leaves. Strong Bad runs on from the left with The Cheat. Cut to close-up of Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What's up with that trench coat, Bubs?

''{Cut back.}''

'''BUBS:''' Oh, uhh... I'm a public flasher!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, right. ''{shakes fist in Bubs' face}'' You ain't got no nudity under there! Open 'er up!

'''BUBS:''' Okay, okay, you got me. ''{Opens his coat again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Just as I suspected! Totally legit looking stuff! Where are the human noses? The misspellings? The choking hazards?

'''BUBS:''' That's the kind of stuff I usually sell at the concession stand. ''{closes his coat}'' This is the black market, man!

'''STRONG BAD:''' So, wait a minute. Your shady bootleg operation peddles quality goods, while your legal store front sells dangerous crap?

'''BUBS:''' Exactly. I got a repatation to uphold!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, in that case... Will The Cheat have an adverse reaction to that ferret ointment?

'''BUBS:''' He'll swell up like a balloon.

'''STRONG BAD''' Then give me two cases!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Angry The Cheat noise}''

''{Cut back to the Lappy with a clear screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So, we finally shut down Bubs' operation. And not just because he was an unlicensed unlicensed seller either. Guess what all those piñatas were stuffed full of.... ''{Not typing}'' Homestar?

''{Cut to computer room, Homestar has many cuts on his face, some still with bits of glass protruding from them.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{Singing}'' Broken glass, broken glass, broken glass, broken glass.

''{The [[New Paper]] comes down}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' That junk was still my best birthdays ever.

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:ShadyDaycares.png|thumb|"Shady Daycares National Park"]]
*During the email, click on the words "shady daycares" to see a [[postcard]] from Shady Daycares National Park.
*After the final bit of dialogue, click on the star on Homestar's shirt to see a scene in the field.
*:''{Homestar is standing, still with his face covered in cuts and glass shards. The Cheat floats across the screen from the left, puffed up like a balloon.}''
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing in the same tune as before}'' Ugly bird, ugly bird, ugly bird, ugly bird...

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*One of the many knock-offs is of straight-to-DVD movie releases, in particular the cheap versions of public domain stories that are rushed to the shelves to capitalize on the success of major releases by the likes of Disney.
*A flasher is someone who indecently exposes one's own private areas in public.

===Trivia===
*The changing names of the "country of manufacture" are, in order:
**Gunkistan
**East Paunch
**Republic of Wad
**Double [[G]]
**West Paunch
**Guttenberg
*The label on the [[Floppy Disk Container]] reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#return to zork|return to zork]]".
*Some of the merchandise depicts [[Strong Bad smiling]].

===Remarks===
*The [[HR:menuswfs/menu_sbemail190.swf|preview image]] for this toon features the scene of Bubs showing his merchandise to Pom Pom (pictured at the top of this page), but all of the products are missing.
*The Strong Bad [[Store Accessories#Beanie Caps|beanie cap]], which is among the items in Bubs' coat, is actually a licensed piece of Strong Bad merchandise, and is sold in the [[store]].
*Strong Bad says "If I ever have kids..." even though in [[secret identity]], he claims to have kids.
*When Bubs shows Pom Pom his merchandise, the legs of the Strong Bad pinatas are below the bottom of the coat, yet they are not visible when his coat is closed.

===Goofs===
When Strong Bad says "One of our primary unlicensed sellers...", he doesn't type the "our".

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad says "[[Shut up, lady]]."
*Strong Bad's mentioning of dog tracks is an example of [[Gambling|gambling]].
*The Easter egg where Homestar sees The Cheat float by and thinks he's an ugly bird is a reference to [[helium]].
*Senor Cardgage mentions [[Tompkins]], a character from Teen Girl Squad.
*Homestar's glass-strewn face has [[blood]] coming out of several wounds.
*This email references the fact that Strong Bad has [[Lack of Visible Body Parts#Strong Bad's Nose|no visible nose]].
*Homestar says he had the "[[Best/Worst X Ever|best birthdays ever]]".
*Strong Bad dressed as a princess is an instance of [[cross-dressing]].

===Real-World References===
*Senor Cardgage sings to the tune of [[Wikipedia:Frère Jacques|Frère Jacques]] and his version is very similar to the [[Wikipedia:Alternative lyrics to Frère Jacques#Where is Thumbkin?|Where is Thumbkin?]] variation.
*The "Cheets" candies are similar both in name and shape to the chick-shaped marshmallow Easter candies called [[Wikipedia:Peeps|Peeps]].
*The picture of The Cheat as a mouse with antennae is reminiscent of [[Wikipedia:Winnie the Pooh|Winnie the Pooh]], who carried a similar honey pot.
*The cover of "Jungle Animals in Decidedly Non-Jungle Situations" shows The Cheat as a toucan, whose blue plumage and colored beak bear a strong resemblance to [[Wikipedia:Froot Loops|Froot Loops]] mascot [[Wikipedia:Toucan Sam|Toucan Sam]].
*"The Secret Princess and Her Oppressive Authority Figure 4" resembles [[Wikipedia: Cinderella (1950 film)|Cinderella]].
*The spinning [[sugar]] toothbrush is a parody of Cap Spin Pop candies.

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|190|13608}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}

Credenza

2007-09-27T10:41:33Z

Blendage: /* Appearances */ Added appearance in pizza joint sbemail

[[Image:Credenza.png|thumb|right|220px|"Credenza... CreDEEeenza... CredanzaaAAA...]]
'''Credenza''' is [[Marzipan]]'s [[Wikipedia:ficus|ficus]]. He died once when [[Homestar Runner]] watered him with [[Wikipedia:Yoo-Hoo|Yoo-Hoo]] while Marzipan was on vacation in Miami. Credenza was brought back when [[Strong Sad]] and Marzipan held a [[Wikipedia:S%E9ance|séance]] with the rest of the characters. It appears on the set of [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad's]] [[Strong Bad-Type Interview Progrum]] in [[pizzaz]] and is one of the items up for sale in [[The Poopsmith]] and [[Pom Pom|Pom Pom's]] "Creeping" Silent "Death" Auction in [[Halloween Fairstival]].

==Appearances==
*'''Debut:''' [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]
* Email [[pizzaz]]
* Email [[pizza joint]]
*[[Halloween Fairstival]]
[[Category: Items]]
[[Category:Pseudocharacters]]

Summer Short Shorts

2007-04-24T10:03:00Z

Blendage: /* Remarks */ Fast-forward explanation for missing wall in BCS

{{toonnavfulllink|Shorts|HR:shortshorts.html|Sbemail 150?!?|No Hands On Deck!}}

[[Image:Short Shorts.png|thumb|Those shorts are indeed short]]
Homestar and pals star in a series of short shorts.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, [[Powered by The Cheat Character Variations#Caveman Homestar Runner|Caveman Homestar Runner]], [[Powered by The Cheat Character Variations#Cavewoman Marzipan|Cavewoman Marzipan]], [[Powered by The Cheat Character Variations#Pterodactyl Coach Z|Pterodactyl Coach Z]], [[Powered by The Cheat Character Variations#Caveman Strong Bad|Caveman Strong Bad]], [[Powered by The Cheat Character Variations#The Cheatsaurus|The Cheatsaurus]], {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Limozeen}}, [[Very, Very Little Girl]] (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]], Prehistoric Lands, [[The Field]], [[Strong Badia]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], Laser Show, [[The Bar]]

'''Date:''' Tuesday, July 25, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 2:52

'''Page Title:''' Dare to Bare!

==Transcript==
''{The toon opens with the title "Summer Short Shorts" on a photo of blue shorts. The title slowly comes towards the camera. Elevator music plays. Cut to Marshmallow's Last Stand. The camera pans across the table, which is littered with french fries and ketchup.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' C'mon, The Cheat! You can do one more! Just one more!

''{the camera zooms out, showing The Cheat sitting opposite Strong Bad at the table, with Strong Mad behind Strong Bad. The Cheat's mouth is crammed full of fries, he has purple bags under his eyes, and is whimpering}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{pops up near The Cheat, wearing a brown hat with a press pass}'' ''{speaking quickly}'' Oh, have you heard the latest news? ''{sits back down}'' I heard the latest news, it was that you could do one more! One more!

''{The Cheat whimpers and spits three fries onto the table}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strong Mad, tell your girlfriend to do one more.

'''STRONG MAD:''' SHE'S GONNA BLOW!!

''{Homestar Runner runs up, dressed as a waiter, with a brown cap that says 'egg.' on it}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Aaaaaaand can I get you gentlemen anything else?

''{Homestar holds up a red clown shoe, and a large daisy rises from inside it}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Blinnnng!

''{cut back to the title screen}''

''{cut to a Powered by The Cheat landscape, showing a volcano and the caption "The Millionzoic Era". Cut to a scene showing a prehistoric Marzipan and Homestar, with a tar pit next to them}''

'''PBTC CAVEMAN HOMESTAR:''' ''{spits green bubbles while he talks}'' Ooga, ooga. My breath, it stinks.

'''PBTC CAVEWOMAN MARZIPAN:''' ''{turns to the left, away from Homestar}'' Uh-huh!

'''PBTC CAVEMAN HOMESTAR:''' Real, real bad!

''{A pterodactyl with Coach Z's hat flies in from the right}''

'''PBTC COACH Z DACTYL:''' Helicopta fly! ''{flies off to the left}''

''{A caveman Strong Bad enters from the mountains. He lands in the tar pit, which splashes Homestar and turns into a skull, which sticks to Homestar. As Strong Bad sinks to the bottom of the tar pit, his feet can be seen poking out from underneath.}''

'''PBTC CAVEMAN STRONG BAD:''' Ooga. Me want set the face on fires.

'''PBTC CAVEMAN HOMESTAR:''' What's fire?

'''PBTC CAVEWOMAN MARZIPAN:''' It sounds fun! Oo-ga! ''{jumps}''

''{A large The Cheat-like dinosaur runs by from the right. It then clamps its mouth around the volcano and begins "drinking" from it, accompanied by glugging noises. The Cheatsaurus then turns and breathes fire over the group, scorching them. Marzipan turns into a drumstick with its tongue sticking out, Homestar into a smiling steak with a gold tooth, and Strong Bad merely blackens}''

'''PBTC CAVEMAN MARZIPAN AND HOMESTAR:''' Aaaah!

'''PBTC CAVEMAN STRONG BAD:''' Oh, me too! ''{turns into a dish with a lobster tail on it}'' I am not exempt!

'''PBTC COACH Z DACTYL:''' ''{pokes head in}'' Hey, did you see that? The Cheatsaurus can do it again!

''{cut back to the title screen}''

''{open with a few shots of leaves, then focus in on Pom Pom's head. He opens his eyes, then leaps out of a bush and jumps upwards. He does a brief pose before falling back down again. He lands on a tree branch, then begins to leap forward from branch to branch. He lands on the ground, and pops a bo staff out of himself. He twirls the staff as pictures of bamboo and a wave appear behind him. He then jumps up. Cut to a long shot of him arcing over Strong Badia and Bubs' Concession Stand. He then lands lightly next to Coach Z. He pops out a deodorant stick out of himself, and tosses it to Coach Z.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Thanks for the smell-cakes, Pom Pom! But next time could you dispense with all the flyin' whozits?!

''{Pom Pom pulls out a small smoke bomb and throws it on the ground in front of him. When the smoke clears, Pom Pom has vanished}''

''{cut back to the title screen}''
<div id="Brain_Sister">
''{cut to a black screen, while red and green lasers arc from the top and bottom of the screen. Guitar music begins, while the Limozeen logo appears in bright yellow. The logo splits, and an image of Larry appears. It changes color, as a pair of feminine legs in fishnet walk by. Three images of Larry playing guitar appear, which meld into one of him leaping into a power chord. The words "BRAIN SISTER" rise from the bottom as Larry jumps offscreen. A calculator displaying 3.14 appears, and an outline of Texas draws itself around it. Several images of a brain, Larry, guitars, and the ZEEN part of the logo flash past in front of a crowd, until Larry zooms forward, surrounded by stars and playing guitar. More images of Larry's head flash in front of the crowd, as the lasers start again. The calculator flashes by, and the legs walk out, with a brain perched on top of them. They walk by a Limozeen amp as the song ends. The Limozeen logo flashes briefly}''

'''LARRY PALARONCINI:''' ''{singing}''
:Well, she was only twenty-seventeen.
:She was a low res beauty queen.
:She was a brain... brain... brain sister!
:Texas Instruments all day!
:And she remembers how they used to duet,
:And she remembers how they used to duet!
:Th'all think you know what I mean!

'''LARRY PALARONCINI:''' Yeah! Those do all right! Uh!
</div>
''{cut back to the title screen}''

''{open in a barroom-type scene. Homestar and Pom Pom are seated at the bar. Both have an 'old one bottle, and there is a bowl of peanuts on the table}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Seriously, Pom Pom. ''{gesturing with bottle}'' You and me, we're like two breads in a biscuit. ''{pokes the bottle in Pom Pom's face}'' Two breads in a biscuit! I'm gonna make a T-shirt! ''{leans in close}'' No, wait! You and me? ''{crouches to look at peanuts}'' We're like this bowl of mayonnaise here. ''{points at Pom Pom with the bottle}'' You're the bowl, 'cuz you're a big, round, fat guy. ''{Pom Pom looks angry. Homestar sits up again, now pointing at self}'' And I'm the mayonnaise, 'cuz I'm smart as peanuts. That'll make a good T-shirt too. Oop, no, wait! Before you strangle me again... You and me? ''{pulls the napkin out from under his bottle}'' Soggy napkin. ''{as Homestar says "Soggy", Pom Pom gets an unimpressed look on his face.}''

''{cut to the picture of the shorts from the title screen, which now just reads "End."}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on the dartboard while Homestar says, "I'm gonna make a T-shirt" to see a [[T-Shirts|T-shirt]] with a slice of bread + a slice of bread = a biscuit.
*Click on the dartboard again while Homestar says, "That'll make a good T-shirt too" to see a T-shirt with a bowl of mayo and the words "Smart as Peanuts!"
[[Image:Very Very Little Girl.PNG|thumb|"You've got no interest in the crazy man over here, do you?"]]
*Click on the "n" in "End" to see a [[Puppet Stuff]] short.
:''{The title "Homestar vs. Very, Very Little Girl" appears. Scene opens to reveal the very, very little girl is swinging and Homestar is standing next to the swing.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh hello, very, very little girl. Take it away.
:''{piano flourish, crickets, another piano flourish}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I've got no material with this kid. Say something cute. Talk about picking your nose. You seem like a smart kid. You wanna go out some time?
:''{Music from the Pom Pom short plays. Homestar dances.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You've got no interest in the crazy man over here, do you?
:''{Homestar Runner comes too close to the swing and is hit three times.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' OW! ... OW! ... UH!
:''{The screen goes black and "end." appears on the screen.}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*The Limozeen sequence simulates a [[Lasers|laser show]].
*[[wikipedia:Image_resolution|Low res]] is short for low resolution which refers to an image with a low level of detail.
*The calculator during the Limozeen sequence displays 3.14, which is a common approximation for [[Pi]].

===Remarks===
[[Image:Freecountry_silhouette.png|thumb|The layout of the land, err.. Free Country in silhouette form.]]
*Short shorts were mentioned just a week earlier with Camp Counselor Shortshorts in [[Teen Girl Squad 11]].
*''Millionzoic'' is a [[Portmanteaus|portmanteau]].
*The PBTC Coach Z Dactyl has a voice similar to the PBTC Coach Z, but when he says "Cheatsaurus", he pronounces it correctly rather than saying "Chort".
*After the Coach Z Dactyl flies by for the first time, it remains off camera at the left edge of the animation until just after Caveman Strong Bad splashes tar on Caveman Homestar, at which time the Dactyl pops back into view for a frame or two before disappearing in preparation for its second flight.
*The Pom Pom short reveals that Bubs' Concession Stand abuts Strong Badia, and apparently a lush forest exists beyond that.
*The sky can be seen inside Bubs' Concession Stand during Pom Pom's scene. This would only be possible if one of the walls were missing.
**The email [[the chair]] shows that one of the walls in Bubs' Concession Stand can lower, making this possible.
*Pom Pom shows off his skills with the [[Wikipedia:Bo (weapon)|bo]].
*At the February 2006 [[Flashforward 2006 Seattle - 28 Feb 2006|Flashforward]], [[Matt Chapman]] mentioned that [[Missy Palmer]] was pregnant—the [[Very, Very Little Girl]] in the Easter egg is perhaps [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] and Missy's baby.
*The music at the beginning of Homestar vs. Very, Very Little Girl comes from Strong Bad's kids' show in [[for kids]].
*Very, Very Little Girl is in a [[Wikipedia:Fisher-Price|Fisher-Price]] B0639 Cradle Swing with the Rubber Ducky pattern.

===Goofs===
*The french fry on the table loses its reflection after the cut to the wider shot.
*The french fries The Cheat spits out have no reflection.

===Inside References===
[[Image:Barscene anim.gif|thumb=Barscene_animated_comparison.gif|Déjà Vu Anyone?]]
*The same short shorts on the title screen are worn by [[Matt Chapman]] in an Easter egg in [[Peasant's Quest Preview]].
*Homestar has an [[Eggs|egg]] on his hat in the restaurant sequence, which also features the same French fries and bottles of [[Quite Fancy 'Chup]] first seen in [[funny]].
*Millionzoic Homestar says that his breath smells real real bad, which is similar to how he told Strong Bad that his burps smell real bad in [[Sick Day]].
*Millionzoic Homestar turns into a [[Steak|steak]] with a [[The Cheat's Gold Tooth|gold tooth]].
*"The ol' Cheatasaurus" is what Strong Bad [[Nicknames|nicknamed]] The Cheat in [[other days]].
*The short in The Millionzoic Era resembles the MS Paint picture Strong Mad sends Strong Bad of a brontosaurus eating bacon and eggs at the end of [[lunch special]].
*The back beat during the Pom Pom short is from [[Theme Song Video]], in which he previously demonstrated his skill in martial arts.
*The animation of Pom Pom's smoke bomb is the same animation of Strong Bad's pants poofing away in [[senior prom]].
*The "guitar stars" featured in the laser show are from [[rock opera]].
*The solar calculator during the Limozeen laser show is similar to the one on the chalkboard in [[technology]], which also displayed [[Pi|3.14]].
*There is a [[LEMKE]] flag on the wall in the bar short.
*Homestar mentions [[Bread|bread]] in the bar short.
*The bar short with Homestar and Pom Pom drinking [[Cold One|'old ones]] is almost identical to a scene near the end of the [[Theme Song Video]].
*The flower was also seen in [[She Loves Me!]].

===Real-World References===
*Texas circumscribing the calculator and the lyrics of the song are a reference to [[Wikipedia:Texas Instruments|Texas Instruments]], a computer and electronics development company.
*One of the backgrounds of Pom Pom's Bo routine is modeled after the [[Wikipedia:Ukiyo-e|ukiyo-e]] woodblock painting [[Wikipedia:Image:Tsunami by hokusai 19th century.jpg|"The Great Wave Off Kanagawa"]] by [[Wikipedia:Hokusai|Hokusai]].
*The Limozeen lyrics "Well, she was only twenty-seventeen." and "I think you know what I mean!" are references to the lyrics "Well she was just seventeen. You know what I mean." from [[Wikipedia:The Beatles|The Beatles]] song "[[Wikipedia:I Saw Her Standing There|I Saw Her Standing There]]". Also, the second line of [[The Beatles|the Beatles]] song originally went, "Never been a beauty queen" (or "Not exactly a beauty queen", depending on the source), until [[Wikipedia:John Lennon|John Lennon]] told [[Wikipedia:Paul McCartney|Paul McCartney]] to change it.
*"Dare to Bare!" is a reference to a slogan used by hair-removal product [http://www.naircare.com/ Nair], who became famous for their ad jingle where people asked "Who wears short shorts?"
*Homestar performing the magic trick with a flower growing out of a shoe is a reference to the waiter "[[Wikipedia:Saved_by_the_Bell#Other_main_characters|Max]]" from "[[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]]", who was often seen performing magic tricks while serving the students their food.


===Fast Forward===
*More short shorts were produced in [[Decemberween Short Shorts]].

==External Links==
*[[HR:shortshorts.html|watch "Summer Short Shorts"]]
*[[HR:shortshorts.swf|view the Flash file for "Summer Short Shorts"]]
*[[HR:shortshorts_little.swf|view the Flash file for "Homestar vs. Very, Very Little Girl"]]
*[[Forum:9214|forum thread re: "Summer Short Shorts"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|shortshorts}}

[[Category:Shorts]][[Category:Powered by The Cheat]][[Category:Puppet Stuff]]

rough copy

2007-04-16T12:53:27Z

Blendage: /* Inside References */ Added missing full stop after 'alcohol'

{{sbenav|170}}
[[Image:Sbemail170 rough copy.PNG|thumb|"Let's sue him!"]]

Strong Bad attemps to sue Malinko for using him and The Cheat in a comic.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Senor Cardgage}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[The Athletic Field]], [[Marzipan's House]] (Easter Egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' April 16, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 3:33

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in a singsong voice}'' Sweetheart, get dressed and brush your teeth! It's time for email!

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: comics</div>
Dear Strongbad, 
I would like to Draw a few comics about you and the cheat. 
But 1st i'd need to know what type of promblems you and 
the cheat would be faced with. Once i get a rough copy i'd 
send it to you to see how you like it. I hope you interested. 
-Malinko-
</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well Malinko, I hope ''you'' interested in getting sued into the middle ages by The Cheat and me. Cause that's what would happen if you drew a few comics about us. ''{clears screen}'' Just like that time Homestar started selling Strong Bad flavored water. ''{pronounces "flavored water" queasily, types in wavy blue-green font}'' We shut that mess down on the quickfast.

''{Cut to Homestar Runner in The Field with a stack of bottles labeled "SB20"}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I got your Strong Bad water right here! S-B-two-oh. Bottled at the source. Pure as a mountain goat.

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat approach; The Cheat is wearing a suit and tie and dragging a briefcase.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Alright The Cheat, let's sue him!

''{The Cheat opens the briefcase, which is filled with colored water balloons. Strong Bad and The Cheat start pegging Homestar with the balloons.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hooray! The orders are violently flying in!

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Man, I've got the best lawyer soft tacos can buy. And his aim with those waterbombs is crazy good! He can hit Strong Sad from like three football fields away.

''{Cut to Strong Sad taking notes on a notepad at the athletic field, which has the Jolly Dumple painted in an end zone and a sign next to the sideline reading "FIELD 3".}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{taking notes}'' Note to self: ''{flips page}'' get—big—ger— ''{flips page}'' note—boo— ''{flips page}'' —k.

''{Water balloons come flying from behind the trees in the distance, hitting Strong Sad and knocking him on his face.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Mercy me!

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I think we were suing him for custody of his not-so-thin mints that day.

''{Zoom out to reveal The Cheat standing next to Strong Bad, holding up a manila envelope.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ahoy! An unmarked manila envelope. Must be that weaselly Malinko's comic.

''{The Cheat snaps the envelope open. Strong Bad pulls a white piece of paper out of the envelope and looks at it}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh my!

''{Close-up of the paper, which has two scribbles labeled "Strong Bad" and "the Cheat", a few stains, and the signature "-m"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Rough copy is right! ''{turns the paper from side to side}'' Uh, you don't need my help finding promblems for these guys, Malinko.

''{Close-up of The Cheat}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{angry The Cheat noises}''

''{Close-up of Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' These don't look anything like us! Man, that kid was going to have so few pants on after we got done suing them off him. And now he's gonna strut around all on-panted waving his pant-covered legs in our faces.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{throws paper up in the air}'' You're a genius, The Cheat! Now ''that's'' what I pay you for. Open up. ''{holds up a taco and The Cheat opens his mouth wide}'' Up. Ah! Ah! Ah! ''{throws the taco in The Cheat's mouth, who gulps it down}'' There you go.

''{The Cheat opens his mouth again and claps his paws together, imitating a seal.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, okay. One more. ''{throws another taco in The Cheat's mouth, who gulps it down}''

''{Cut to silhouettes of Strong Bad and The Cheat wearing barbed wire, walking in front of a cloudy sky.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Utz. Eetz. Ahtz. Atch.

''{Cut to Strong Bad and The Cheat standing in The Field, still wearing barbed wire.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now we look just like Malinko's cat-scratchings. Our case is air-tight. Why stop at pants? We could probably sue that black zip-up hoodie off him now too!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{turns around and makes The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, this stuff ''does'' make me feel pretty tough. Ooh, in fact... we should star in own action-packed credit sequence called, "Rough Copy!".

''{A "ROUGH COPY!" title screen appears with Strong Bad and The Cheat wearing barbed wire and holding revolvers. Big band music plays. Cut to Strong Bad, who runs across a row of 2-D silhouetted buildings. The screen reads, "with STRONG BAD" in the corner. Cut to the Cheat, who fires his revolver. The screen reads, "and THE CHEAT" in the corner.}''

''{Two strips of video appear on the screen, one with Strong Bad walking down a sidewalk, and one with the Cheat tossing a taco in his mouth. Cut to a horizontally split screen with Strong Bad pointing his revolver in each one. Cut to Strong Bad and The Cheat riding down a highway in the [[Gremlin]]. Strong Bad has his revolver drawn, and The Cheat is standing on the roof of the car.}''

''{Cut to white silhouettes of Strong Bad and The Cheat holding their guns, with the text "ROUGH COPY!" above them and "Promblem-Packed Action!" above them. The music ends.}''

''{Cut to Strong Sad speaking to Strong Bad and The Cheat at The Field. Strong Bad and The Cheat are still wearing barbed wire, and Strong Sad is wearing reading glasses and carrying a very large "Bigger Noootebook"}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, hello, gentlemen. I'm here representing my client, Malinko. ''{zoom in on Strong Sad}'' It would seem you are infringing on his ''highly'' intellectual property. ''{points upward on "highly"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You gotta be joking! There's nothing intellectual abou—

''{Strong Sad begins pegging Strong Bad with snowballs, and Strong Bad yells.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Where did you get snowballs this time of year?! ''{Strong Sad continues hitting him with snowballs}'' How did you fit them in that notebook?

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{holds a snowball aloft}'' I've been saving these in the freezer since I was eight! ''{throws snowball at Strong Bad, who yells}''

''{The screen dims, and Homestar Runner pops in front, holding a bottle of "Malinko Drinko".}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Drinko some Malinko! Crystal clear like domestic beer.

''{Cut back to the Lappy. Strong Bad shakes snow off his head and grumbles.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Can't you see Malinko? All this hot legal action is tearing our non-existent friendship apart! Looks like we'll just have to settle out of court.

''{Strong Bad turns away from the Lappy and starts eating a candy bar.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Mmm. That's some good settlement. ''{chews}''

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*When Strong Bad turns away from the computer to respond to The Cheat, click the text on the screen to see a box of Not So Thin Mints.
*At the end of the email, click the candy bar to see Senor Cardgage talk to Strong Bad.
:'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' ''{leaning in from the right}'' Hey, Grendolyn! Don't bogart that settlement now!
*At the end of the email, click the wall plug to see a clip Homestar Runner sitting on the couch.
:''{Homestar is sitting on Marzipan's couch looking sad. Windy noises.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{after quite some time, sighs}'' DNA evidence.

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*SB20 is a play on H20, the formula for water. Conincidently Sb20 is theoretically a stable molecule (diantimony oxide).
*Domestic Beer is beer made in one's own country. This is most likely referring to American beers.
*The Cheat's clapping his hands together indicating he wants more food is the manner in which trained seals or otters clap their flippers together to indicate to their trainer that they want more food.

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad and The Cheat seemingly [[Wikipedia:Hammerspace|pulled the soft tacos out of nowhere]].
*The Loading screen is included in the Flash file for this toon, but it is not used.
*The floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#LHX attack chopper|LHX attack chopper]]".

===Inside References===
*This is the sixth Strong Bad Email in a row to mention [[DNA Evidence|DNA evidence]].
**This is the first and only appearance of the gag in an Easter egg rather than the main cartoon.
*This email makes reference to [[Pants|pants]].
*This email has reference to [[Goats|goats]].
*This email has a reference to [[Alcohol|alcohol]].
*[[The Jolly Dumple]] can be seen on the football field.
*The Cheat previously opened his mouth wide in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]
*When Strong Bad and The Cheat are sillhouetted against the sky, it is very similar to its design in [[isp]].
*Strong Bad's reaction to Homestar's "flavored water" is similar to his reaction to Homestar's bread sing alongs in [[origins]]. In each case, he types "flavored water" and "bread sing alongs" in moving green text.
*Strong Bad is eating a [[Wikipedia:ZAGNUT|Zagnut]] bar, seen previously in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] and [[flashback]].

===Real-World References===
*"Not-so-thin mints" are a reference to Thin Mints, a type of [[Wikipedia:Girl Scout cookie|Girl Scout cookie]].

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|170|11205}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}

rough copy

2007-04-16T10:44:54Z

Blendage: /* Remarks */ Unused Loading screen

{{sbenav|170}}
[[Image:Sbemail170 rough copy.PNG|thumb|"Let's sue him!"]]
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Senor Cardgage}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[The Athletic Field]], [[Marzipan's House]] (Easter Egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' April 16, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 3:33

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in a singsong voice}'' Sweetheart, get dressed and brush your teeth! It's time for email!

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: comics</div>
Dear Strongbad, 
I would like to Draw a few comics about you and the cheat. 
But 1st i'd need to know what type of promblems you and 
the cheat would be faced with. Once i get a rough copy i'd 
send it to you to see how you like it. I hope you interested. 
-Malinko-
</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well Malinko, I hope ''you'' interested in getting sued into the middle ages by The Cheat and me. Cause that's what would happen if you drew a few comics about us. ''{clears screen}'' Just like that time Homestar started selling Strong Bad flavored water. ''{pronounces "flavored water" queasily}'' We shut that mess down on the quickfast.

''{Cut to Homestar Runner in The Field with a stack of bottles labeled "SB20"}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I got your Strong Bad water right here! S-B-two-oh. Bottled at the source. Pure as a mountain goat.

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat approach; The Cheat is wearing a suit and tie and dragging a briefcase.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Alright The Cheat, let's sue him!

''{The Cheat opens the briefcase, which is filled with colored water balloons. Strong Bad and The Cheat start pegging Homestar with the balloons.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hooray! The orders are violently flying in!

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Man, I've got the best lawyer soft tacos can buy. And his aim with those waterbombs is crazy good! He can hit Strong Sad from like three football fields away.

''{Cut to Strong Sad taking notes on a notepad at the athletic field, which has the Jolly Dumple painted in an end zone and a sign next to the sideline reading "FIELD 3".}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{taking notes}'' Note to self: ''{flips page}'' get—big—ger— ''{flips page}'' note—boo— ''{flips page}'' —k.

''{Water balloons come flying from behind the trees in the distance, hitting Strong Sad and knocking him on his face.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Mercy me!

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I think we were suing him for custody of his not-so-thin mints that day.

''{Zoom out to reveal The Cheat standing next to Strong Bad, holding up a manila envelope.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ahoy! An unmarked manila envelope. Must be that weaselly Malinko's comic.

''{The Cheat snaps the envelope open. Strong Bad pulls a white piece of paper out of the envelope and looks at it}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh my!

''{Close-up of the paper, which has two scribbles labeled "Strong Bad" and "the Cheat", a few stains, and the signature "-m"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Rough copy is right! ''{turns the paper from side to side}'' Uh, you don't need my help finding promblems for these guys, Malinko.

''{Close-up of The Cheat}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{angry The Cheat noises}''

''{Close-up of Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' These don't look anything like us! Man, that kid was going to have so few pants on after we got done suing them off him. And now he's gonna strut around all on-panted waving his pant-covered legs in our faces.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{throws paper up in the air}'' You're a genius, The Cheat! Now ''that's'' what I pay you for. Open up. ''{holds up a taco and The Cheat opens his mouth wide}'' Up. Ah! Ah! Ah! ''{throws the taco in The Cheat's mouth, who gulps it down}'' There you go.

''{The Cheat opens his mouth again and claps his paws together, imitating a seal.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, okay. One more. ''{throws another taco in The Cheat's mouth, who gulps it down}''

''{Cut to silhouettes of Strong Bad and The Cheat wearing barbed wire, walking in front of a cloudy sky.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Utz. Eetz. Ahtz. Atch.

''{Cut to Strong Bad and The Cheat standing in The Field, still wearing barbed wire.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now we look just like Malinko's cat-scratchings. Our case is air-tight. Why stop at pants? We could probably sue that black zip-up hoodie off him now too!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{turns around and makes The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, this stuff ''does'' make me feel pretty tough. Ooh, in fact... we should star in own action-packed credit sequence called, "Rough Copy!".

''{A "ROUGH COPY!" title screen appears with Strong Bad and The Cheat wearing barbed wire and holding revolvers. Big band music plays. Cut to Strong Bad, who runs across a row of 2-D silhouetted buildings. The screen reads, "with STRONG BAD" in the corner. Cut to the Cheat, who fires his revolver. The screen reads, "and THE CHEAT" in the corner.}''

''{Two strips of video appear on the screen, one with Strong Bad walking down a sidewalk, and one with the Cheat tossing a taco in his mouth. Cut to a horizontally split screen with Strong Bad pointing his revolver in each one. Cut to Strong Bad and The Cheat riding down a highway in the [[Gremlin]]. Strong Bad has his revolver drawn, and The Cheat is standing on the roof of the car.}''

''{Cut to white silhouettes of Strong Bad and The Cheat holding their guns, with the text "ROUGH COPY!" above them and "Promblem-Packed Action!" above them. The music ends.}''

''{Cut to Strong Sad speaking to Strong Bad and The Cheat at The Field. Strong Bad and The Cheat are still wearing barbed wire, and Strong Sad is wearing reading glasses and carrying a very large "Bigger Noootebook"}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, hello, gentlemen. I'm here representing my client, Malinko. ''{zoom in on Strong Sad}'' It would seem you are infringing on his ''highly'' intellectual property. ''{points upward on "highly"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You gotta be joking! There's nothing intellectual abou—

''{Strong Sad begins pegging Strong Bad with snowballs, and Strong Bad yells.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Where did you get snowballs this time of year?! ''{Strong Sad continues hitting him with snowballs}'' How did you fit them in that notebook?

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{holds a snowball aloft}'' I've been saving these in the freezer since I was eight! ''{throws snowball at Strong Bad, who yells}''

''{The screen dims, and Homestar Runner pops in front, holding a bottle of "Malinko Drinko".}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Drinko some Malinko! Crystal clear like domestic beer.

''{Cut back to the Lappy. Strong Bad shakes snow off his head and grumbles.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Can't you see Malinko? All this hot legal action is tearing our non-existent friendship apart! Looks like we'll just have to settle out of court.

''{Strong Bad turns away from the Lappy and starts eating a candy bar.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Mmm. That's some good settlement. ''{chews}''

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*When Strong Bad turns away from the computer to respond to The Cheat, click the text on the screen to see a box of Not So Thin Mints.
*At the end of the email, click the candy bar to see Senor Cardgage talk to Strong Bad.
:'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' ''{leaning in from the right}'' Hey, Grendolyn! Don't bogart that settlement now!
*At the end of the email, click the wall plug to see a clip Homestar Runner sitting on the couch.
:''{Homestar is sitting on Marzipan's couch looking sad. Windy noises.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{after quite some time, sighs}'' DNA evidence.

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*SB20 is a play on H20, the formula for water.
===Remarks===
*Strong Bad seemingly [[Wikipedia:Hammerspace|pulled the soft tacos out of nowhere]].
*The Loading screen is included in the Flash file for this toon, but is not used.

===Inside References===
*This is the sixth Strong Bad Email in a row to mention [[DNA Evidence|DNA evidence]].
**This is the first and only appearance of the gag in an Easter egg rather than the main cartoon.
*This email makes reference to [[Pants|pants]].
*This email has reference to [[Goats|goats]].
*[[The Jolly Dumple]] can be seen on the football field.
*The Cheat previously opened his mouth wide in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]
*When Strong Bad and The Cheat are sillhouetted against the sky, it is very similar to its design in [[isp]].
*Strong Bad's reaction to Homestar's "flavored water" is similar to his reaction to Homestar's bread sing alongs in [[origins]]. In each case, he types "flavored water" and "bread sing alongs" in moving green text.

===Real-World References===
*"Not-so-thin mints" are a reference to Thin Mints, a type of [[Wikipedia:Girl Scout cookie|Girl Scout cookie]].
*Strong Bad is eating a [[Wikipedia:ZAGNUT|Zagnut]] bar, seen previously in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] and [[flashback]].

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|170|11205}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}

Talk:rough copy

2007-04-16T10:31:59Z

Blendage: /**/Preloader?

== DNA Evidence ==

Is this easter egg more evidence that [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] read the wiki?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:08, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
:How so? They make the running gags, not us. My own speculation is that this will ultimately end in email 173 with something happening to The Paper. Or maybe in 175. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 07:10, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, but the fact that in this email Homestar seems almost resigned to saying it leads me to believe that they've figured out we've been looking for it. Or perhaps it's there because they realized they've been putting DNA evidence into every email and they're making fun of themselves. I was just speculating, that's all. No need to jump down my throat.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:30, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Not trying to jump down your throat. It would probably be really unhealthy anyways. They've got a great thread going on the [[Forum:10974|Forum]] about this, if you want to add your voice to the mix. Seems like most people think that this will culminate with sbemail 173. Personally though, I don't know how TBC could accidentally go 5 emails in a row with unconsciously writing DNA evidence into them. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 07:36, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Sad being somewhat violent upon Strong Bad... ==

Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but is this the first time that Strong Sad has ever been violent upon Strong Bad? - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 08:04, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
:He did join the Homestarmy... But this is the first act of actual violence, according to [[Strong Bad and Strong Sad's Relationship]].

== Preloader? ==

Is it just me, or does this toon not have a preloader? Might be worth watching to see if this changes. {{User:Blendage/sig}} 10:31, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Subtitles:sbemail164/en

2007-01-22T20:06:25Z

Blendage: Matched SB's 2718-2751 line to in-toon subtitle

{{subtitles|English|looking old}}
<pre>
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<transcript xml:lang="en-us" file="sbemail164.swf" width="550" height="400">
<line start="18" end="100" speaker="strongbad">Boom, tick. Tick-a-tick-a-tick, email. Boom, tick. Tick-a-tick-a-tick.</line>
<line start="101" end="133" speaker="strongbad">What? Didgeri-"Dear Strong Bad."</line>
<line start="133" end="174" speaker="strongbad">"You really do look old. How old are you anyways?"</line>
<line start="174" end="258" speaker="strongbad">"Your faithful fan, Andy", H-S-I-A-O, and sometimes Y, "from Taiwan."</line>
<line start="258" end="302" speaker="strongbad">Look Andyman, my age is a closely guarded secret,</line>
<line start="302" end="367" speaker="strongbad">protected by a sect of closely guarded monks high atop the Coches Mountains.</line>
<line start="367" end="416" speaker="strongbad">They would no sooner dance with a goat than divulge my age.</line>
<line start="416" end="455" speaker="strongbad">But they will bake you some crustly guarded bread!</line>
<line start="455" end="486" speaker="strongbad">Anyways, whattaya mean I look old?</line>
<line start="486" end="538" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Are you telling me the nightly nacho cheese masks aren't working?</line>
<line start="538" end="568" speaker="strongbad">I can't have the young peoples thinking I'm old!</line>
<line start="568" end="596" speaker="strongbad">Am I really losing the youth vote?</line>
<line start="596" end="640" speaker="strongbad">This calls for an EMERGENCY MARKETING MEETING!!!</line>
<line start="640" end="685" speaker="strongbad">Whaaa-donk. Click-click-click-click-click-click-click.</line>
<line start="685" end="710" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">This is not a drill.</line>
<line start="710" end="770" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Whaaa-donk. Click-click-click-click-click-click-click. This is not a drill.</line>
<line start="775" end="812" speaker="strongbad">Thank you all for coming on short such notice.</line>
<line start="815" end="867" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">You represent the best, the brightest, the people I hate the least.</line>
<line start="867" end="915" speaker="strongbad">Except you, Marzipan. You're here because of legal reasons.</line>
<line start="915" end="930" speaker="marzipan">We're ditty!</line>
<line start="930" end="965" speaker="strongbad">Now what I need is an image overhaul.</line>
<line start="965" end="1002" speaker="strongbad">Something to reconnect me with the youth of today.</line>
<line start="1002" end="1090" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Something that says, "Sup my young parsons, I too am so on the go that I drink my yogurt from a tube."</line>
<line start="1090" end="1108" speaker="strongbad">Now what have you got?</line>
<line start="1108" end="1128" speaker="thecheat">The Cheat noises</line>
<line start="1128" end="1154" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Youth through editing, huh?</line>
<line start="1155" end="1195" speaker="strongbad">I'm on board, I'm not bored. So, how would it work?</line>
<line start="1195" end="1208" speaker="thecheat">exclamatory The Cheat noises</line>
<line start="1228" end="1270" speaker="strongbad">Didgeri-dear, Didgeri-dear, Didgeri-"Dear Strong Bad."</line>
<line start="1270" end="1285" speaker="strongbad">"You really do look old."</line>
<line start="1285" end="1312" speaker="strongbad">"Your faithful fan, from Taiwan."</line>
<line start="1312" end="1353" speaker="strongbad">Look Andyman, my age is a closely guarded secret--</line>
<line start="1353" end="1372" speaker="strongbad">terces dedraug ylesolc a si ega ym.</line>
<line start="1372" end="1400" speaker="strongbad">Anyways, whattaya mean I look old?</line>
<line start="1408" end="1433" speaker="strongbad">Oh, The Cheat!</line>
<line start="1433" end="1479" speaker="strongbad">I don't know whether to puke or have a seizure.</line>
<line start="1479" end="1553" speaker="bubs">Well, I've been noticing how kids love anything with a lowercase "i" in front of it.</line>
<line start="1553" end="1600" speaker="bubs" voiceover="voiceover">It's working great for me down at the Concession Stand!</line>
<line start="1600" end="1648" speaker="homestar">Hey, Homestar. What color iTem are you gonna get?</line>
<line start="1648" end="1690" speaker="bubs">We oughta try "iStrong", or "iBad"--</line>
<line start="1690" end="1744" speaker="strongbad">We already tried that with lowercase "e"s back in the late '90s.</line>
<line start="1744" end="1770" speaker="strongbad">We all know where that got us.</line>
<line start="1810" end="1825" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Next.</line>
<line start="1825" end="1855" speaker="marzipan">I came up with a few ways to spruce up your look,</line>
<line start="1855" end="1886" speaker="marzipan">and add hundreds to your resell value.</line>
<line start="1886" end="1932" speaker="strongbad">(monotone) I am legally obligated to ask you to proceed.</line>
<line start="1932" end="1968" speaker="marzipan">Thanks. First we're gonna start with a flagstone path...</line>
<line start="1968" end="1993" speaker="marzipan" voiceover="voiceover">...leading up to your chin, right here.</line>
<line start="1993" end="2038" speaker="marzipan" voiceover="voiceover">Then we'll fill the negative space around your head with Forsythia...</line>
<line start="2038" end="2066" speaker="marzipan" voiceover="voiceover">...and maybe some Alberta spruce.</line>
<line start="2066" end="2096" speaker="marzipan" voiceover="voiceover">And last, we install a water feature right here...</line>
<line start="2096" end="2143" speaker="marzipan" voiceover="voiceover">...which I think will create a great focal point for entertaining summer guests.</line>
<line start="2154" end="2179" speaker="strongbad">Oh, this will work great, Marzipan...</line>
<line start="2180" end="2220"><strongbad volume="1.5">IF I WAS A BACKYARD!!!!!!!!</strongbad></line>
<line start="2230" end="2240" speaker="strongbad">Next.</line>
<line start="2246" end="2276" speaker="strongmad">WEAR A DIAPER!</line>
<line start="2276" end="2304" speaker="strongbad">Uh, nice try, bo-hwee-moth...</line>
<line start="2304" end="2342" speaker="strongbad">But... that's a little younger than I was loo-king to go.</line>
<line start="2342" end="2372" speaker="strongbad">These are all terrible ideas!</line>
<line start="2372" end="2400" speaker="strongbad">What am I not paying you people for, anyway?</line>
<line start="2400" end="2450" speaker="strongbad">It's time to resort to extreme measures. With Gene Hackman.</line>
<line start="2450" end="2482" speaker="strongbad">it's time... for a lace lift!</line>
<line start="2482" end="2517" speaker="strongbad">The Cheat! Strong Mad! Prep for surgery!</line>
<line start="2532" end="2558" speaker="strongbad">All right. On three.</line>
<line start="2558" end="2579" speaker="strongbad">One, two...</line>
<line start="2579" end="2595" speaker="strongbad">Aaahhhhh!</line>
<line start="2595" end="2643" speaker="strongbad">(mumbling) Oh, yeah. I feel at least 10 years younger.</line>
<line start="2643" end="2700" speaker="strongbad">(mumbling) Time to go relate to some 18-24 year olds!</line>
<line start="2718" end="2751" speaker="strongbad">(mumbling) What's up, my fellow young person!</line>
<line start="2751" end="2791" speaker="strongsad">Oh, hey Great Grandma. When did you get here?</line>
<line start="2791" end="2872" speaker="strongbad">(mumbling) I'm not Great Grandma. I'm a young person, like you. I eat my yogurt from a tube.</line>
<line start="2872" end="2918" speaker="strongsad">That's right! You eat everything through a tube!</line>
<line start="2918" end="2945" speaker="strongsad">Well, let's get you back to the home.</line>
<line start="2945" end="2983" speaker="strongbad">Wait! I'm a hip young person!</line>
<line start="2983" end="3025" speaker="strongsad">Yes, I saw your new hip! It looks great!</line>
<line start="3025" end="3035" speaker="strongbad">Aaahhhh!</line>
<line start="3035" end="3105" speaker="strongsad">Why don't you tell me again about the time the Depression fought Abraham Lincoln naked in your front yard?</line>
<line start="3105" end="3113" sfx="sfx">Preeeeow!</line>
<line start="3168" end="3198" speaker="homestar">I'll take it! I'll take 12!</line>
</transcript>

Subtitles:sbemail162/en

2006-12-05T14:02:49Z

Blendage: Removed duplicate word

{{subtitles|English|the chair}}
<pre>
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<transcript xml:lang="en-us" file="sbemail162.swf" width="550" height="400">
<line start="16" end="86" speaker="strongbad">(singing) A-just scrape some email off the top, and I'll help you out toniiiight!</line>
<line start="87" end="110" speaker="strongbad">Dah to the ear Strong Bad</line>
<line start="111" end="161" speaker="strongbad">That chair you're sitting on doest-n-t look very comfortable.</line>
<line start="162" end="243" speaker="strongbad">When are you going to get a new, less hardwood, big, office manager-style comfy computer chair?</line>
<line start="244" end="276" speaker="strongbad">Yours treh, Keith and PA</line>
<line start="277" end="315" speaker="strongbad">Ooh! It's a father-son email picnic!</line>
<line start="316" end="362" speaker="strongbad">Yeh to the ou don't know what you're talkin' about, Pakeithpsy.</line>
<line start="363" end="394" speaker="strongbad">Stooly here is a tush-cheek's dream.</line>
<line start="395" end="434" speaker="strongbad">So cottony squish and pillowy fresh.</line>
<line start="435" end="449" speaker="strongbad">Take a look-see!</line>
<line start="450" end="479" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Whoa, It's been upgraded to Stank...</line>
<line start="480" end="503" speaker="other" sfx="sfx">coughs</line>
<line start="504" end="517" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Eeew...</line>
<line start="518" end="573" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Maybe it is time for a re-imagining of my email-checkin' chair...</line>
<line start="574" end="627" speaker="other">I just need a lozenge...</line>
<line start="628" end="640" speaker="strongbad">Hey, Bubs!</line>
<line start="641" end="656" speaker="bubs">Hey, customer!</line>
<line start="657" end="706" speaker="strongbad">What do you got in the way of things I can sit on whilst I check emails?</line>
<line start="707" end="727" speaker="bubs">Ooh! Lucky for you!</line>
<line start="728" end="778" speaker="bubs">I just got this pre-owned box of chicken beaks in just now!</line>
<line start="779" end="801" speaker="bubs">Like right just now!</line>
<line start="802" end="862" speaker="strongbad">Okay, okay, okay... But you got anything less anthrax-y?</line>
<line start="863" end="891" speaker="bubs">I got this old Winger album!</line>
<line start="892" end="926" speaker="strongbad">Well, yeah... that is less anthrax-y.</line>
<line start="927" end="964" speaker="strongbad">But I was kinda hoping for a chair of some kind.</line>
<line start="965" end="990" speaker="bubs">Step right into my showroom!</line>
<line start="1008" end="1017" speaker="bubs">All right!</line>
<line start="1018" end="1061" speaker="bubs">We'll start at the tip, and work our way to the tup!</line>
<line start="1062" end="1091" speaker="strongbad">You make less sense every day, Bubsy.</line>
<line start="1092" end="1106" speaker="bubs">Crabberdonk!</line>
<line start="1114" end="1134" speaker="strongbad">Hey, that's no chair!</line>
<line start="1135" end="1174" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">That's Red, White and Banana! My old bicycle seat!</line>
<line start="1175" end="1214" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">I used to ride that thing on my paper route all the time!</line>
<line start="1246" end="1267" speaker="strongbad">No, I'd better pass on that.</line>
<line start="1268" end="1303" speaker="strongbad">I had a few too many wipeouts on that thing as a kid.</line>
<line start="1304" end="1327" speaker="bubs">Ugh! You nasty!</line>
<line start="1328" end="1334" speaker="strongbad">What?!</line>
<line start="1349" end="1406" speaker="strongbad">What makes you think I want to checka my email on a Homestar Runner-shaped chair??</line>
<line start="1407" end="1436" speaker="bubs">Aw, come on. Give it a try!</line>
<line start="1447" end="1452" speaker="homestar">Ow.</line>
<line start="1453" end="1460" speaker="strongbad" sfx="sfx">screams</line>
<line start="1470" end="1492" speaker="bubs">Whoops, seen enough of that one!</line>
<line start="1493" end="1520" speaker="strongbad">Aww, your snowman died!</line>
<line start="1521" end="1574" speaker="bubs">You simpleton! This is a Danube-Largo original!</line>
<line start="1575" end="1612" speaker="bubs">The Styleron Ecochair!</line>
<line start="1613" end="1643" speaker="strongbad">Look, I don't care how Swedish your chair is.</line>
<line start="1644" end="1695" speaker="strongbad">I have no need for a giant albino doggie-doody.</line>
<line start="1696" end="1719" speaker="bubs">Always a hit at parties...</line>
<line start="1720" end="1771" speaker="strongbad">Come on, Bubs! Don't you have anything more... executive?</line>
<line start="1772" end="1828" speaker="strongbad">A chair that will intimidate my underlings and eliminate my overlings!</line>
<line start="1829" end="1868" speaker="bubs">Ooh! lucky for you! I just got this pre-owned—</line>
<line start="1869" end="1894" speaker="strongbad">NOT a box of chicken beaks!</line>
<line start="1895" end="1922" speaker="bubs">Oh. Then behold:</line>
<line start="1923" end="1944" speaker="bubs">Le Restige!</line>
<line start="1945" end="1967" speaker="strongbad">Style and class!</line>
<line start="1968" end="2020" speaker="strongbad">Oh, tell me that leather's Corinthian! Just tell me it's Corinthian!</line>
<line start="2021" end="2039" speaker="bubs">Crabberdonk!</line>
<line start="2040" end="2070" speaker="strongbad">So what kind of options are we looking at on this baby?</line>
<line start="2071" end="2100" speaker="bubs">Ooh! You're gonna love this!</line>
<line start="2151" end="2189" speaker="strongbad">No way! A sweat pants button!</line>
<line start="2190" end="2253" speaker="strongbad">And so begins my meteoric rise to the top of the corporate ladder...</line>
<line start="2254" end="2307" speaker="strongbad">Now alls we gotta do is see how well it checks emails!</line>
<line start="2308" end="2347" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">(singing) I hate, hate, hate, this email...</line>
<line start="2348" end="2361" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Dear Strong Bad</line>
<line start="2362" end="2390" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">How come you never take your mask off?</line>
<line start="2391" end="2447" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Like I've said before, this is not a mask. It's m'face.</line>
<line start="2448" end="2476" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">But hey, I'll give it a shot!</line>
<line start="2477" end="2493" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover" sfx="sfx">groans</line>
<line start="2494" end="2562" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover" sfx="sfx">screams and gurgles</line>
<line start="2563" end="2603" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">Ugh! I am NEVER gonna do that again!</line>
<line start="2604" end="2634" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">And, here's a picture of my parents.</line>
<line start="2635" end="2701" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover">And now time to unwind with a pair of executive sweat pants!</line>
<line start="2702" end="2756" speaker="strongbad" voiceover="voiceover" sfx="sfx">yells</line>
<line start="2757" end="2822" speaker="strongbad">Ooooh... so... many... sweat pants...</line>
<line start="2823" end="2856" speaker="strongbad">I can't feel my parts...</line>
<line start="2872" end="2916" speaker="strongsad" sfx="sfx">groans</line>
<line start="2917" end="2934" speaker="strongsad">Ooh!</line>
<line start="2935" end="2980" speaker="strongsad">I can't feel my parts...</line>
</transcript>
</pre>

Talk:Decemberween in July

2006-12-03T20:25:31Z

Blendage: /**/Decemberween Category

Should the list of toons in this menu be replaced with the list from the template <nowiki>{{Decemberween In July}}</nowiki>? - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 11:15, 16 Sep 2004 (MST)

I think so.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 20:13, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

== Decemberween Category ==

Why's this toon listed as beginning with <nowiki>'{'</nowiki> in the Decemberween category? Wiki markup typo methinks, but I can't find out where exactly. {{User:Blendage/sig}} 20:25, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Let us give TANKS!

2006-11-29T23:17:26Z

Blendage: /* Lime */ still going

==Lil Steiny?==
I thought Lil' Steiny was a reference to [[superhero name]]... --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 23:44, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
:No, in an email, it's pronounced, "Stiny." [[User:The Valentine Bros.|The Valentine Bros.]]
::This is actually a double reference to [[Stiny]] and [[Wikipedia:Steinway & Sons|Steinway & Sons]]. It's not a particular reference to "superhero name" because Stiny was yelled at in more than one email (see Stiny's article). —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Though, now that I think about it, the only use of Li'l Stiny came from superhero names. A reword is possible. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I assumed it was a ref to [[Thy Dungeonman 3]], where Thy Dungeonman's mug was referred to as "Steiny". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::That's a similar joke, but it derives from a completely different kind of "stein", so it's not really a reference here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

==About the "Gun-haver" thing==
Listen...everybody and their dog seems to think that "Gunhaver! You actually Have A GUN!" is a reference about Gunhaver's never really been seen with a gun...uh...HELLO? HIS FREAKIN NAME IS
'''"Gun"-"Haver"'''...DUH! {{User:Strong Devon/sig}}
:But he hasn't ever been SEEN with a gun, which is the irony. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:30, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::You forgot the "duh", BJ. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:00, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:Did you forget to take your I.Q. pills today? [[User:82.44.76.119|82.44.76.119]] 16:20, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

== Fourth Wall? ==

"The Blue Laser Commander's comment about Reinforcements' camera pretends to break the Fourth Wall." While this may be partly true, the joke (to me) was the fact it explained that Gunhaver could see into the Thanksgiving dinner somehow. Many shows have villans/heroes that somehow bring up a location on a screen with no explanation as of how they are seeing it. [[User:76.212.89.130|76.212.89.130]] 04:06, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:I think you're right. In fact, TBC made mention of this joke several times on the DVD commentary for the other Cheat Commandos toons. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:50, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

== Real-world reference? ==

The "make a milkshake from this food" easter-egg is a reference to the "will it blend" video blog, which has shown how to make disgusting milkshakes such as "cochicken" (http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=cochicken) and most recently the "thanksgiving dinner" (http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=thanksgiving).
* Hah, I thought the exact same thing when I was watching it! --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:56, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
**blent marbles. yum. that is seriously funny. {{User:Csours/sig}} 22:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

== Lime ==

It says the goof is fixed. I just watched it, and it's not fixed. I updated the wiki, and it got reverted, saying that it is fixed. I just watched it again after that, and it's not fixed. I don't want to edit it again, because it will just get reverted. --[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 17:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
: Clear your cache. It was fixed very quickly, if indeed it was ever there at all (I never saw it). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:53, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::I've cleared my cache. It stays the same. Are you sure it's fixed? --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 21:14, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:::It's certainly fixed on my compy. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::It ''is'' fixed. And I put a link to an unfixed version down in the external links. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:23, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::It's not fixed. Someone tell me how it could be fixed when the latest version on the site and HRWiki's mirror version give the same hash. {{User:Blendage/sig}} 10:40, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::It's fixed in both versions. Dot com accidentally mirrored the fixed toon. I'll take the link out until the correct one is mirrored. Dot com, if you haven't got the old version anymore, I've got it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:54, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::[http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/8494/thelimehp3.png This frame] is still there. This is the only version of the toon I've seen, so the goof seemed to still be present. {{User:Blendage/sig}} 11:02, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::So it is... Frame 1703, for those who don't know where to look. After you being so insistent, I finally stepped through it frame by frame instead of just dragging the seekbar, and there it was. Identical to the version I downloaded within about 30 minutes of the first mention of the toon at the wiki. Embarrassing. How did we suddenly not see it anymore? Anyways, sorry guys! ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:31, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Is step-by-step possible with the Greasemonkey script? I had to take pot luck with Pause for the above screenshot. {{User:Blendage/sig}} 12:30, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::The vaguely arrow-looking buttons next to the seek bar ("|<" and ">|") step through frame by frame. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:44, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Is it possible that TBC just changed the Flash file so that it just skips that frame on an ordinary play-through? Because when watching the toon from beginning to end, I do not see that frame, but when I go frame by frame or rewind to that scene and watch it alone, I ''do'' see that frame. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:31, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::No, I just watched it without touching the seekbar, and it's still there.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 16:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Loafing, I have it on [[:Image:NoGoof.PNG|frame 1703]] in FireFox. In the version on the site, Crackotage's arm is still raised. I also looked at Dot com's yesterday, and Crackotage lowered his arm. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:28, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::PS. And I don't see it when just watching the toon straight either. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:34, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Just cleared my cache and checked again, and the arm ''definitely'' lowers. Crazy thought: Maybe TBC thought that Crackotage's arm ''should'' have lowered and changed the toon to make this the case? {{User:Blendage/sig}} 18:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Jay, of course I had cleared my cache when I went through all those steps last night. And now I've cleared my cache again (and waited for about a minute until the toon was downloaded again), and the goof is still there. It's possible that we use a different version of the seekbar, giving us different frame numbers. Have stepped through it to see if the bug occurs in a different frame in the vincinity of 1703?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:09, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Yes - frame 1704 is of the Blue Laser Commander. I've also checked this in two different browsers (one of which does not have the seek bar.) And, as I said, I tested Dot com's version, where the arm DOES lower. This Goof is fixed. That's all I can see. Look, to get by Blendage's theory, I'll clear MY OWN cache and tell you what happens. UPDATE: Exactly what I expected. Nothing happened. Still fixed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:18, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Teh weird!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:01, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::First of all, it's Tom's file, not mine. All I did was post the link. Second, I loaded both the official H*R version and the mirror on this computer (which hasn't been online since last weekend) and cued them both to frame 1703 in separate tabs. The H*R version has the arm supporting the lime; in the mirror version, the lime is floating. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:14, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::Well, it's now miraculously fixed for me as well. Even though I did clear my cache Xty times before and the bug was still there. Maybe I should get some third-party "cache-ex" or something :-/{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:21, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::I think Flash might maintain its own memory cache... sometimes you have to clear the cache and then restart the browser for stuff to update. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:48, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::I'm wondering if it could be being cached somewhere upstream of any given user's local machine, like at the ISP; that would explain how computers that had never loaded it could still see an old version. I decompiled the H*R version and the mirror version. Besides being different file sizes with different numbers of shapes, the difference between 1702 and 1703 in the mirror is ''three'' shapes (the mouth, the arm, and the candle flame), but in the H*R version it's just ''two'' (the mouth and the candle flame). I've loaded it in at least three browsers and have gotten the same result every time; I'm therefore re-updating the page to fixed. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:15, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::::Wow, this has gone pretty far. Anyway, I'm still seeing the arm descend in frame 1703 even after clearing cache and everything. How long does it take between re-caching of their servers? Maybe they have multiple servers and didn't update all of them. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 03:34, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Bringing this discussion back to the left side of the page, I've checked it on Firefox, IE and Netscape and all the 1703rd frames come up with the fixed version. I rechecked it and got the same. The only frames where the lime floats are 1680-1684 (when he throws it up). --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 21:45, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
:If anyone ''really'' wants to find out what's going on here, then a few people should compare the SWFs they receive at the binary level. Me, I've had enough. ;) {{User:Blendage/sig}} 23:17, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

== X-Men reference ==

blue laser commander calling Gunhaver Charles reminded me of the X Men series, ei, Professor X's name is Charles Xavier, and Magneto calls him that instead of Professor X. But im not sure how to say that succinctly for a fun fact.{{User:Csours/sig}} 22:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:I can sum it up in one word for you: coincidence. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:21, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::um, let me lay it out for you: bad guy calls good guy by his first name. does anyone know of any other good guy named Charles, besides Charles Xavier that would be called by his first name by a bad guy?{{User:Csours/sig}} 22:27, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I get the connection. Maybe a DVD commentary will prove you right someday. But for now, we can't put a fun fact up based on that kind of conjecture. There's just not enough to go on to justify the speculation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:32, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::::meh. but its MY conjecture. {{User:Csours/sig}} 18:59, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

==Crackotage Goof on IE==

On IE, the scene cuts right as Crackotage moves his arm the second time, so it looks more like a cut before the lime falls. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 21:17, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:What do you mean, on IE? Are yu saying they're delivering different content to IE users than to Firefox or Opera users? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:01, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
::As part of a clearly pointless effort to get to the bottom of this, I found the "lime goof" occurs in both IE and Firefox. I have absolutely no idea what causes some people to get a different frame 1703. It's like a curse! (edit) After seeing the latest version of the page, have we decided that that's what happened? {{User:Blendage/sig}} 00:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

== Green Helmets ==

I believe the word that the person who put the reference in is looking for is "Cannon Fodder".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannon_fodder --[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 10:16, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

==Reference?==

In the Easter Egg with Reynold's brother, it has the "Next Gen" Gamepad. Could this be a reference to the Next Generation video game console battle between the PS3,The Nintendo Wii, and the XBOX 360? [[User:Catman87]] 20:21, 25 November 2006
:Yes, that's already mentioned. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

'm srry [[User:Catman87]] 20:30, 25 November 2006

== enlighten me please ==

I have been troubled by the use of the word "kindergoth" in the article since the term isn't used in the toon and I can't find it in wikipedia. My question is this: how widespread is this term? I saw something about a character from Southpark but that is it. If kindergoth is a real term, please provide a link that defines it, or else we need to replace it with a more meaningful term. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:57, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

:I'm not sure about that either. The term is now linked to something gives it some context, though the pedia article it cites is uncited. I'm further troubled by the statement of parody. (I admit I am not familiar with "emo", but I am quite familiar with punk music, and I don't see any intent to satarize that music). {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 09:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

== Oxy Clean/Oxi ==

Note that the Reynold's Brother package says "Oxy Clean!" I believe this is a reference to Oxi, a brand name for an acne removal cream from around 2000. I could only find a disambiguation page for it on Wikipedia, but it makes perfect sense, given Reynold's Brother's clear need of some kind of facial cleanser...ick. (Does this sound like product placement? I can't help but feel that it does, but the company's out of business, I believe, so it can't really hurt.) --Dragoon5464 (forgot my password again) [[User:4.244.213.23|4.244.213.23]] 08:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
:Almost definitely, but it was spelt Oxy. {{User:Blendage/sig}} 22:01, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
::OXy Clean is an actual product. Why say it refers to something else?[[User:Geshmalderborgen|גשמלדרברגן]] 21:30, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Because Oxy Clean is a stain removal product, as opposed to an acne treatment product like Oxi. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== A first time for everything! ==

This toon has a lot of firsts, doesn't it? [[User:Das654|Das654]] 08:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, but considering that it's only the sixth installment, it's not very noticeable. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:07, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
::<s>What?</s> Never mind, I get it now. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 22:12, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

On that note, I do not understand why my fun fact relating to this toon being the first appearance of the cheat commandos in a holiday toon was removed (unanimously, no less!) The only argument given was that "It's notable, but not in the article."
All I am asking for is a good explanation. -The Big Eye
:A good "first" fact is one when something happens that contradicts a long-established pattern, or where something extraordinary happens for the first time. This doesn't meet either of those criteria. First of all, as mentioned above, there really aren't that many episodes, so there isn't much of an established pattern for this toon to contradict. Second, the fact that this is a holiday toon is not notable because it's really not out of the ordinary for these guys. The Cheat Commandos/Blue Laser have been shown going to the supermarket, cooking hamburgers, ordering pizza, watching videos, going to school, cleaning the grout in the bathroom—in other words, doing the things that most people do. It's only natural, then, that they would celebrate Thanksgiving. (I think it would be ''more'' notable if there were a full-length toon on the website featuring the main Commandos characters and Blue Laser actually fighting a real battle.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:12, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
::And that wasn't the only arguement, by the way. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 17:34, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Actually, it wasn't an argument at all, but rather a comment. The [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/Let Us Give TANKS!#A holiday classic!|only argument]] was that it wasn't notable at all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:47, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Point taken. Still, I think that you're taking this a little too seriously. -The Big Eye P.S. Whether an argument or a comment, it still doesn't make sense; where should it be noted, if not in the article?
:::::Nowhere, like I said. Hope that helps. :) Also, to sign your name on talk pages, just type four tildes, like this: <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>, and the system will automatically put your name and a timestamp, like this: [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:05, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

== Another Orphan? Or a Coincidence? ==

In the Short Toon "No Hands on Deck!" Coach Z imitates an orphan in an attempt to be in Homestar's hypothetical musical. Although the orphan in this toon is a reference to "Oliver Twist," is it not possible that there is a connection?

It's not impossible... after all, they are wearing the same hat. -The Big Eye

:Nah, I don't think so. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 21:23, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

== Say WHAT?! ==

In the toon, <s>ripburger</s> Fightgar says he's thankful for "sayin' right, right, right, right", but after looking through his filmography I can't see that he ever did. Are we just supposed to take his word at that or am I missing some reference? {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 03:39, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
:Do you mean Fightgar? I always thought he was saying "Say it right right right", and that he'd mispronounced ambrosia salad in some way. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 03:45, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
::Oops, you're right. FIX'D! {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 05:34, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
::Fightgar is thankful for saying right right right right right. I can think of one time he said that. [[Shopping For Danger]]: after Gunhaver says, "you better break yourself!" —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:52, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I just watched Shopping For Danger, and I didn't hear him say it at all. I just heard him laughing after Gunhaver said that line.
:::I kinda hear it. It does sound like him saying "right, right, right, right, right..." Still, I don't think that is the only reference. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 05:36, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I hear "right right..." in SFD. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:50, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

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Blendage: /* Oxy Clean/Oxi */

==Lil Steiny?==
I thought Lil' Steiny was a reference to [[superhero name]]... --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 23:44, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
:No, in an email, it's pronounced, "Stiny." [[User:The Valentine Bros.|The Valentine Bros.]]
::This is actually a double reference to [[Stiny]] and [[Wikipedia:Steinway & Sons|Steinway & Sons]]. It's not a particular reference to "superhero name" because Stiny was yelled at in more than one email (see Stiny's article). —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Though, now that I think about it, the only use of Li'l Stiny came from superhero names. A reword is possible. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I assumed it was a ref to [[Thy Dungeonman 3]], where Thy Dungeonman's mug was referred to as "Steiny". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::That's a similar joke, but it derives from a completely different kind of "stein", so it's not really a reference here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

==About the "Gun-haver" thing==
Listen...everybody and their dog seems to think that "Gunhaver! You actually Have A GUN!" is a reference about Gunhaver's never really been seen with a gun...uh...HELLO? HIS FREAKIN NAME IS
'''"Gun"-"Haver"'''...DUH! {{User:Strong Devon/sig}}
:But he hasn't ever been SEEN with a gun, which is the irony. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:30, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::You forgot the "duh", BJ. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:00, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:Did you forget to take your I.Q. pills today? [[User:82.44.76.119|82.44.76.119]] 16:20, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

== Fourth Wall? ==

"The Blue Laser Commander's comment about Reinforcements' camera pretends to break the Fourth Wall." While this may be partly true, the joke (to me) was the fact it explained that Gunhaver could see into the Thanksgiving dinner somehow. Many shows have villans/heroes that somehow bring up a location on a screen with no explanation as of how they are seeing it. [[User:76.212.89.130|76.212.89.130]] 04:06, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:I think you're right. In fact, TBC made mention of this joke several times on the DVD commentary for the other Cheat Commandos toons. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:50, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

== Real-world reference? ==

The "make a milkshake from this food" easter-egg is a reference to the "will it blend" video blog, which has shown how to make disgusting milkshakes such as "cochicken" (http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=cochicken) and most recently the "thanksgiving dinner" (http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=thanksgiving).
* Hah, I thought the exact same thing when I was watching it! --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:56, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
**blent marbles. yum. that is seriously funny. {{User:Csours/sig}} 22:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

== Lime ==

It says the goof is fixed. I just watched it, and it's not fixed. I updated the wiki, and it got reverted, saying that it is fixed. I just watched it again after that, and it's not fixed. I don't want to edit it again, because it will just get reverted. --[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 17:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
: Clear your cache. It was fixed very quickly, if indeed it was ever there at all (I never saw it). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:53, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::I've cleared my cache. It stays the same. Are you sure it's fixed? --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 21:14, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:::It's certainly fixed on my compy. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::It ''is'' fixed. And I put a link to an unfixed version down in the external links. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:23, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::It's not fixed. Someone tell me how it could be fixed when the latest version on the site and HRWiki's mirror version give the same hash. {{User:Blendage/sig}} 10:40, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::It's fixed in both versions. Dot com accidentally mirrored the fixed toon. I'll take the link out until the correct one is mirrored. Dot com, if you haven't got the old version anymore, I've got it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:54, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::[http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/8494/thelimehp3.png This frame] is still there. This is the only version of the toon I've seen, so the goof seemed to still be present. {{User:Blendage/sig}} 11:02, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::So it is... Frame 1703, for those who don't know where to look. After you being so insistent, I finally stepped through it frame by frame instead of just dragging the seekbar, and there it was. Identical to the version I downloaded within about 30 minutes of the first mention of the toon at the wiki. Embarrassing. How did we suddenly not see it anymore? Anyways, sorry guys! ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:31, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Is step-by-step possible with the Greasemonkey script? I had to take pot luck with Pause for the above screenshot. {{User:Blendage/sig}} 12:30, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::The vaguely arrow-looking buttons next to the seek bar ("|<" and ">|") step through frame by frame. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:44, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Is it possible that TBC just changed the Flash file so that it just skips that frame on an ordinary play-through? Because when watching the toon from beginning to end, I do not see that frame, but when I go frame by frame or rewind to that scene and watch it alone, I ''do'' see that frame. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:31, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::No, I just watched it without touching the seekbar, and it's still there.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 16:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Loafing, I have it on [[:Image:NoGoof.PNG|frame 1703]] in FireFox. In the version on the site, Crackotage's arm is still raised. I also looked at Dot com's yesterday, and Crackotage lowered his arm. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:28, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::PS. And I don't see it when just watching the toon straight either. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:34, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Just cleared my cache and checked again, and the arm ''definitely'' lowers. Crazy thought: Maybe TBC thought that Crackotage's arm ''should'' have lowered and changed the toon to make this the case? {{User:Blendage/sig}} 18:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Jay, of course I had cleared my cache when I went through all those steps last night. And now I've cleared my cache again (and waited for about a minute until the toon was downloaded again), and the goof is still there. It's possible that we use a different version of the seekbar, giving us different frame numbers. Have stepped through it to see if the bug occurs in a different frame in the vincinity of 1703?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:09, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Yes - frame 1704 is of the Blue Laser Commander. I've also checked this in two different browsers (one of which does not have the seek bar.) And, as I said, I tested Dot com's version, where the arm DOES lower. This Goof is fixed. That's all I can see. Look, to get by Blendage's theory, I'll clear MY OWN cache and tell you what happens. UPDATE: Exactly what I expected. Nothing happened. Still fixed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:18, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Teh weird!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:01, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::First of all, it's Tom's file, not mine. All I did was post the link. Second, I loaded both the official H*R version and the mirror on this computer (which hasn't been online since last weekend) and cued them both to frame 1703 in separate tabs. The H*R version has the arm supporting the lime; in the mirror version, the lime is floating. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:14, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::Well, it's now miraculously fixed for me as well. Even though I did clear my cache Xty times before and the bug was still there. Maybe I should get some third-party "cache-ex" or something :-/{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:21, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::I think Flash might maintain its own memory cache... sometimes you have to clear the cache and then restart the browser for stuff to update. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:48, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::I'm wondering if it could be being cached somewhere upstream of any given user's local machine, like at the ISP; that would explain how computers that had never loaded it could still see an old version. I decompiled the H*R version and the mirror version. Besides being different file sizes with different numbers of shapes, the difference between 1702 and 1703 in the mirror is ''three'' shapes (the mouth, the arm, and the candle flame), but in the H*R version it's just ''two'' (the mouth and the candle flame). I've loaded it in at least three browsers and have gotten the same result every time; I'm therefore re-updating the page to fixed. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:15, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

== X-Men reference ==

blue laser commander calling Gunhaver Charles reminded me of the X Men series, ei, Professor X's name is Charles Xavier, and Magneto calls him that instead of Professor X. But im not sure how to say that succinctly for a fun fact.{{User:Csours/sig}} 22:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:I can sum it up in one word for you: coincidence. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:21, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::um, let me lay it out for you: bad guy calls good guy by his first name. does anyone know of any other good guy named Charles, besides Charles Xavier that would be called by his first name by a bad guy?{{User:Csours/sig}} 22:27, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I get the connection. Maybe a DVD commentary will prove you right someday. But for now, we can't put a fun fact up based on that kind of conjecture. There's just not enough to go on to justify the speculation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:32, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::::meh. but its MY conjecture. {{User:Csours/sig}} 18:59, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

==Crackotage Goof on IE==

On IE, the scene cuts right as Crackotage moves his arm the second time, so it looks more like a cut before the lime falls. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 21:17, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:What do you mean, on IE? Are yu saying they're delivering different content to IE users than to Firefox or Opera users? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:01, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
::As part of a clearly pointless effort to get to the bottom of this, I found the "lime goof" occurs in both IE and Firefox. I have absolutely no idea what causes some people to get a different frame 1703. It's like a curse! (edit) After seeing the latest version of the page, have we decided that that's what happened? {{User:Blendage/sig}} 00:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

== Green Helmets ==

I believe the word that the person who put the reference in is looking for is "Cannon Fodder".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannon_fodder --[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 10:16, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

==Reference?==

In the Easter Egg with Reynold's brother, it has the "Next Gen" Gamepad. Could this be a reference to the Next Generation video game console battle between the PS3,The Nintendo Wii, and the XBOX 360? [[User:Catman87]] 20:21, 25 November 2006
:Yes, that's already mentioned. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

'm srry [[User:Catman87]] 20:30, 25 November 2006

== enlighten me please ==

I have been troubled by the use of the word "kindergoth" in the article since the term isn't used in the toon and I can't find it in wikipedia. My question is this: how widespread is this term? I saw something about a character from Southpark but that is it. If kindergoth is a real term, please provide a link that defines it, or else we need to replace it with a more meaningful term. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:57, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

:I'm not sure about that either. The term is now linked to something gives it some context, though the pedia article it cites is uncited. I'm further troubled by the statement of parody. (I admit I am not familiar with "emo", but I am quite familiar with punk music, and I don't see any intent to satarize that music). {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 09:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

== Oxy Clean/Oxi ==

Note that the Reynold's Brother package says "Oxy Clean!" I believe this is a reference to Oxi, a brand name for an acne removal cream from around 2000. I could only find a disambiguation page for it on Wikipedia, but it makes perfect sense, given Reynold's Brother's clear need of some kind of facial cleanser...ick. (Does this sound like product placement? I can't help but feel that it does, but the company's out of business, I believe, so it can't really hurt.) --Dragoon5464 (forgot my password again) [[User:4.244.213.23|4.244.213.23]] 08:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
:Almost definitely, but it was spelt Oxy. {{User:Blendage/sig}} 22:01, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

== A first time for everything! ==

This toon has a lot of firsts, doesn't it? [[User:Das654|Das654]] 08:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, but considering that it's only the sixth installment, it's not very noticeable. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:07, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

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Blendage: /* Crackotage Goof on IE */

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Blendage: /* Lime */

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Blendage: /* Lime */

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Blendage: /* Lime */

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Blendage: /* "Badly imitated"? */

Why doesn't this guy ever use his ammo? He's more of a spy. -[[User:Helios Rex|Helios Rex]]
:Why don't the other Commandos ever even appear? Why doesn't Homestar wear pants? Who knows? It's just one of those things the Brothers Chaps do, yeah? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::He does use his ammo, at least, twice. He used it in Virus and Cheat Commandos. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:10, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== "Badly imitated"? ==

Is his accent really that bad? I'm from britain and I think it's a pretty good attempt.-Ashley
:I guess 'bad' is in the eye of the beholder... Or ear, in this case. It sounds pretty good to me too, and my best friend is English. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
: Sounds genuine to me. Australian seems a bit far-fetched. {{User:Blendage/sig}} 10:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

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Talk:Holidays

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Blendage: /**/colonization*?

{{featuredarticle}}
How is this list different from the Toons list? The Wiki is not a database no matter how much you try to make it one. - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 19:25, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

Maybe it's just a different way to look at the toons? --[[User:Southpaw018|Southpaw018]] 19:56, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

It also has all the toons that aren't listed in the Holiday Toons Menu. Things like the Halloween Answering Machine, the Homestar Vs Little Girl 2, things that SHOULD be Holiday, but are listed somewhere else. This was just a rough list, if anyone wants to maybe find a way of organizing this page, [[Puppet Stuff]], and [[Powered by The Cheat]] In similar fashions of each other, (not neccisarrily this way, this is just a rough list) feel free to do so. But basically the main purposes of the three pages are to list additional toons that SHOULD be in that catergory, but are not. like Homestar Runner Vs Little Girl 1, It's in the holiday, when it could be in [[Puppet Stuff]] as well. And [[Labor Dabor]] being in Puppet Stuff, when it's got a bit of Powered By The Cheat in it. That's how it's different from the Toons list. I dunno. I just made this page as a list, How it's organized along with the other two are up to the Wiki. Any Volunteers? -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 20:14, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

==Thanksgiving==

Although [[Happy T]] and [[colonization]] may look like seperate Holidays, they were added right around Thanksgiving of their respective years, they're clearly related, I think it's fair to say that they are one and the same. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 19:23, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Birthdays, Among Others...==

Why does everybody keep deleting random stuff on this page, and shuffling it all around, without giving a reason/discussion on this page? Namely for deleting all the birthday refferances, including the one towards Cheatday. But why is a 'minor holidays' page needed just for the three of them? The reason I added them to their own catergories was to make a timeline of holidays throughout the year, which is incomplete when just three holidays are thrown at the bottom. Is the general feeling that this is the incorrect way to go, or is it just a few? ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 00:20, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

:Trogga kept deleting the stuff, and I kept putting it back. The discussion is on [[User talk:Trogga|Trogga's talk page]]. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 00:29, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

I see that there's a reference to Strong Bad's statement that he doesn't want to turn 150, which could be interpereted as a birthday reference in normal conversation, but I think that in this case it's not connected to his real birthday and shouldn't be included as a "Holiday Toon"[[User:Vash Lupin VI|Vash Lupin VI]]

==Minor Holidays==

Why do [[User:Trogga|certain people]] keep moving a select few holidays to 'minor holidays'? My argument is that besides messing up the chronological lineage, they aren't even minor holidays. It's simply a point of view. Holidays like New Years, it doesn't have it's own toon. Mother's Day does. So which one is minor? In my opinion, neither. Anyone else have a point of view they would like to share? ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 23:36, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

I'm with thunderbird [[User:Pertmywert|[[User:Pertmywert|Joel]]|[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]]]

Same [[User:Sbmaniac|Sbmaniac]] 15:11, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

==Halloween emails==
The email [[halloweener]] is already in the [[Holiday#Halloween (October 31st)|Halloween list]]. Shouldn't [[ghosts]] be, too? They were both released on October 31. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:19, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: Uh, it isn't? {looks} It's really not. Huh. Of course it SHOULD be there... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:20, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Pumpkin Stencils==

<strike>If we have [[Happy T]], I don't see why we can't have pumpkin stencils. Unless anyone objects...</strike> {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:10, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

:I didn't notice that it was already there in 2004. I merged the two occurances, hopefully that satisfies everybody. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:12, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

==This year's Halloween toon==

I wonder when this one is coming out, and what everybody will be dressed as this year. Anyone else looking forward to this one? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:05, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
:I think its safe to say that these are a favorite for H*R fans and we'll all be waiting to see their costumes. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:14, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::And I'd also bet 50p that there'll be at least one mention of [[Witches' Brew]] as well. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::dorian wins 50p. If anyone accepted the bet (I didn't). {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 04:48, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

==Decemberween==

I'm fairly certain that this is also a dig at how Christmas celebrations tend to creep up earlier and earlier as shops gear up for last-minute buyers.

--Anonymous Strong Bad Fangirl
:perhaps, perhaps not. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 18:19, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

==Page Title==

Though I originally started this page as "Holiday Toons", in reference to how it's labled in the Toons menu, it has really evolved to be a list of all "Holiday References", or probably just "Holidays". So I'll throw it out here, anybody think it should be moved, or stay as is? I like how it fits with Puppet Stuff, Powered By The Cheat, in that they're all mainly a list of every instance of that particular style, whether it's listed in the menu or not. The only problem is that this page has the addional "Toons" word. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:40, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

:I'm fine with just '''Holidays'''. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 02:46, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

== I am ANGRY ==

They keep skiping the Holiday emails! Was there a Decemberween 2005, NO and was there a July 4th 2006 NO
:And do you have to pay for any of the content of H*R? No. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:40, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

== colonization*? ==

Why is there an asterisk after the link to [[colonization]]? Typo or non-existant footnote? {{User:Blendage/sig}} 17:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

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Blendage:

»[[User:Blendage|Blendage]] :: [[User_talk:Blendage|talk]].[[Special:Contributions/Blendage|contrib]] ::

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Blendage:

»Blendage :: [[User_talk:Blendage|talk]].[[Special:Contributions/Blendage|contrib]] ::

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Blendage:

==Hooray for Blendage!==
[http://www.wiffles.net/ I have a website.] That is all.
[[Image:TheBlender.PNG|thumb|Fig 1.a: Blenders are perfect for blendage.]]

User:Blendage

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Blendage:

==Hooray for Blendage!==
[http://www.wiffles.net/ I have a website.] That is all.
[[Image:Frank_Bennedetto.PNG|thumb|Fig 1.a: Blenders are perfect for blendage.]]

Let us give TANKS!

2006-11-22T11:47:05Z

Blendage:

{{toonnav|Holiday Toon|ccdo5|Fan Costumes '06|Homestarloween Party}}
[[Image:Let Us Give Tanks.PNG|thumb|"I can never tell you guys apart!"]]
Blue Laser invites the Cheat Commandos to Thanksgiving dinner.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Green Helmets]], {{film|Gunhaver}}, {{film|Silent Rip}}, {{film|Reinforcements}}, {{film|Crackotage}}, {{film|Reynold}}, {{film|Firebert}}, {{film|Fightgar}}, [[Blue Laser Minions]], {{film|Blue Laser Commander}}, [[Ripberger]], [[Oliver Smidgen]], [[Reynold's Brother]]

'''Places:''' [[Cheat Commandos HQ]], Blue Laser Cottage, Reynold's Parents' House

'''Date:''' November 21, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 5:00

'''Page Title:''' A Very Tremendous Chimendez Thanksgiving

==Transcript==
''{The title appears — ''"LET US GIVE TANKS!!" written by A. Chimendez'' — over a shot of the Cheat Commando base in red, orange, yellow, and brown hills in the background and falling leaves. Light, percussive music plays.}''

''{Gunhaver and Silent Rip appear in front of the control panel and video screen, watching shaky video of three Cheat Commandos being assaulted by blue lasers and explosions on a smoky, war-torn landscape.}''

'''CHEAT COMMANDO:''' We're taking heavy losses, sir. They've got us pinned down! We really need—

''{The video image is interrupted by a siren and a yellow and orange screen with the text, "Thanksgiving Break Alert"}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' All right! Thanksgiving break!

''{The screen fades through static back to the Cheat Commandos}''

'''CHEAT COMMANDO:''' But sir! We could really use some—

''{Gunhaver turns off the monitor and turns to Silent Rip}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' I ''love'' Thanksgiving break!

''{The camera focuses on Silent Rip}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' Uh, shouldn't we go help him?

''{The camera zooms out to include Gunhaver, along with Reinforcements and Fightgar}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Naw, he's just one of those green helmets. We got like fifty of them. So, what's everybody doing for the holiday?

''{The camera shifts to Reynold}''

'''REYNOLD:''' I'm going to stay at my parents' house! If they haven't rented out my room... again... to my brother.

''{Gunhaver salutes the Cheat Commandos as they leave}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Well, have a good time, soldiers. I'll just be here in case Blue Laser tries to blow up over-the-river-and-through-the-woods... so that no one to grandmother's house... can go.

''{The scene shifts to a small cottage in the autumn woods with a gravel path and smoke rising out of the stone chimney. Transition music plays}''

''{Cut to the inside of the cottage. A Blue Laser minion is preparing a turkey in the kitchen. Blue Laser Commander enters, brandishing a meat fork.}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' I thought I told you to fiendishly dice the evil onions!

'''BLUE LASER MINION 1:''' No sir.

''{The camera pans to a second Blue Laser Minion chopping onions with fiendish faces drawn on them on the counter.}''

'''BLUE LASER MINION 2:''' That was me, sir.

''{Camera pans back to Blue Laser Commander}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' I can never tell you two apart! ''{hurls the meat fork into the offscreen second minion's eye}''

'''BLUE LASER MINION 2:''' Ow.

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' There! Now you're the one with the fork stuck in your eye!

''{The door crashes open and the Fightgar, Firebert, and Silent Rip enter, armed with guns.}''

'''FIGHTGAR:''' Sorry Blue Laser — the only thanks ''you'll'' be giving is getting shot by us with our bullet-shooting guns!

''{Blue Laser Commander approaches the Cheat Commandos}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' What?!

'''FIGHTGAR:''' Aw, just kiddin'. ''{smiles, along with Firebert}'' Thanks for havin' us over!

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' ''{laughs and smiles}'' You really had me going for a second there. Get in here, you guys!

''{Fightgar, Firebert, and Silent Rip enter, followed by Ripberger}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Ripberger, you made it! ''{Ripberger stops at the door}'' I thought you were only available for a limited time with three proofs of purchase!

'''RIPBERGER:''' I brought some ambrosia salad! ''{displays the salad}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Uh! Where's Gunhaver?!

''{The camera pans to Fightgar and Silent Rip}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' ''{scratching his head}'' Uh, we kinda didn't give him your invitation. Gunhaver has a bit of a hard time cutting loose.

''{The scene cuts to Gunhaver in the Cheat Commandos base, saluting a flag labeled "The Flag" which is being blown by a fan.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Forty-seven! Forty-eight! Forty-nine! Fifty! C'mon Gunhaver, you maggot! Give me fifty more! One! Two! Three!

''{The scene cuts back to the cottage, with Blue Laser Commander and Fightgar at a table with plates, the turkey, and yams with marshmallows.}''

'''FIGHTGAR:''' Uh... I guess... Claude Monet, and um... Manchester United!

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' That's good, that's good! Now what about you, Silent Rip?!

''{The camera pans over to Silent Rip.}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' I'm thankful for this bountiful Blue Laser Thanksgiving action playset!

''{A "ding" noise is heard and the words "CHEAP AS FREE" appear in a cloud bubble in the corner of the scene}''

''{The camera cuts to Crackotage}''

'''CRACKOTAGE:''' I'm thankful for the gift of rhyme!!

''{The camera cuts to Ripberger}''

'''RIPBERGER:''' Ambrosia salad!

''{The camera cuts back to Crackotage}''

'''CRACKOTAGE:''' I'm also thankful for this lime! ''{holds up a lime}'' Hibbety-jeebity!

''{The camera cuts to Blue Laser Commander}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Plutonium at closeout prices!

''{The camera cuts to a Blue Laser minion}''

'''BLUE LASER MINION 1:''' I'm thankful I don't have a fork in my eye, sir.

''{The camera cuts back to Blue Laser Commander}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' My Nana's new hip!

''{The camera cuts to the Blue Laser minion with a fork stuck through his visor into his eye}''

'''BLUE LASER MINION 2:''' I'm... thankful for this fork in my eye.

''{The scene cuts to Gunhaver, facing the camera in front of the control panel.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' So I exchanged it for something of lesser value, and they gave me the rest in store credit!

''{The camera comes behind Gunhaver's back to show him standing in front of the video monitor with the anonymous Cheat Commando onscreen.}''

'''CHEAT COMMANDO:''' That's great sir! A real value. But we could really use some air support.

'''GUNHAVER:''' Yeah, I should go too. Gotta check in on Blue Laser.

'''CHEAT COMMANDO:''' Please, NO—

''{Gunhaver brings up the Blue Laser cottage on the video monitor, showing Blue Laser Commander, Fightgar, Silent Rip, and a Blue Laser minion at the table with the turkey.}''

'''FIGHTGAR:''' Ambros-er-a salad... sayin' right, right, right, right...

'''GUNHAVER:''' Tight buns! Blue Laser has captured the Cheat Commandos and is forcing them to sit down to a delicious meal and pleasant conversation! Hang on, boys. Daddy Gunhavvy's on his way! ''{walks away from the monitor}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' But I'm ''not'' thankful for that guy over there with the camera!

''{The scene cuts to Reinforcements, who is using a camera and lights to record the Thanksgiving dinner.}''

'''REINFORCEMENTS:''' Hey, guys.

''{The camera focuses on Silent Rip and Blue Laser Commander}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' Uh-oh. You know what ''that'' means.

''{The camera cuts to Fightgar.}''

'''FIGHTGAR:''' It won't be long before...

''{Gunhaver comes out of the turkey pointing a handgun.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Gobble, gobble... you're in trobble!

'''CRACKOTAGE:''' ''{offscreen}'' Hey, that's not bad!

''{The camera cuts to Blue Laser Commander.}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Gunhaver! You actually have a gun!

''{The camera cuts back to Gunhaver, with the silhouettes of two Cheat Commandos in the foreground}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Cheat Commandos, run! For cover! ''{camera zooms in}'' Blue Laser is clearly trying to have you all over for dinner!

''{The camera cuts to Silent Rip.}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' Uh, yeah! He invited you too! But we didn't tell you because we were afraid you'd do something like this!

''{The camera cuts back to Gunhaver.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' And I did! The Cheat Commandos win again!

''{The camera cuts to Blue Laser Commander.}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Well, since you're here... ''{clasps his hands together}'' Play us a song, won't you Charles?

''{The camera pans past several Cheat Commandos, all murmuring in agreement}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' A—a song? No, I couldn't possibly... it's been so long, I...

''{The camera cuts back to Gunhaver, with a small, dirty Cheat Commando wearing a cap behind him.}''

'''OLIVER SMIDGEN:''' Won't you play us a song, Gun'aver?

'''GUNHAVER:''' All right, you talked me into it. One song!

''{Cut to Gunhaver sitting at a black upright piano with the Cheat Commandos and Blue Laser gathered around.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' This is one everybody knows, so give me a hand, boys. ''{begins playing the piano and singing}'' Buy all our playsets and...

'''CHEAT COMMANDOS AND BLUE LASER:''' Ooh!

'''GUNHAVER:''' ''{singing}'' Buy all our playsets and...

''{Ripberger descends upside-down from the ceiling.}''

'''CHEAT COMMANDOS AND BLUE LASER:''' Ah!

'''GUNHAVER:''' ''{singing}'' Buy all our playsets and...

'''EVERYONE:''' ''{singing}'' Toys!

''{The camera pans past Fightgar, Silent Rip, and the Blue Laser minion with the fork in his eye. The camera focuses on the piano keys, which Gunhaver is playing the Cheat Commandos theme song, and then cuts back to everyone in front of the piano}''

'''EVERYONE:''' Yeah!

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' A holiday classic!

''{Smoke begins wafting through the top of the room.}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' Uh, what's that smell?

'''FIGHTGAR:''' How should I know? You're the one called Silent Rip!

'''GUNHAVER:''' That's all me. I stuck a nuclear device in the oven in case I didn't make it out of here alive! ''{several of the attendees open their mouths in surprise}''

''{The scene cuts to Reynold's room, with his brother playing video games. There are several speakers in the room; the ones in the foreground are shaking as they play music. The Blue Laser cottage can be seen outside the window with smoke rising from it.}''

'''MUSIC:''' No one understands me! No one understands me!

''{Reynold enters the room, covering his ears}''

'''REYNOLD:''' Will you turn that noise down?!

'''REYNOLD'S BROTHER:''' You're so lame.

'''MUSIC:''' No one understands me... but YOU!'''

''{The Blue Laser cottage explodes in a mushroom cloud and the glass window of Reynold's room shatters}''

''{The screen shifts to a picture of Gunhaver coming out of the turkey, with the message, "Happy Thanksgiving! from those Cheat Commandos" and the "Buy all our playsets and toys" music.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on "Cheat Commandos" to see Oliver Smidgen and Reynold's Brother action figures.
*At the end, click on the turkey drumstick to see Blue Laser order around a minion. 
*:'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' ''{Holding a plate of food}'' I need you to take this plate of food, make a milkshake out of it, and spread it on Nana's gums for her! 
*:'''BLUE LASER MINION:''' I'm going to go ahead and disobey a direct order, sir. 
*:'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Understandable!!

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*The "Green Helmets" are minor, expendable characters added so "heroes" can die without losing any members of the main cast. Such characters are frequently called "[[Wikipedia:Redshirt (stock character)|Redshirts]]", due to the fact that such characters in [[Wikipedia:Star Trek|Star Trek]] usually wore red shirts.

===Remarks===
*The notes that Gunhaver can be seen playing on the piano do not match the notes heard (although there is a similarity).

===Trivia===
*This is the first time Ripberger is heard speaking.
*This is the first Cheat Commandos cartoon to feature civilian characters besides Reynold.
*The Blue Laser Commander exclaims, "Gunhaver! You actually have a gun!" Indeed, in spite of his name, this is the first time Gunhaver is actually seen holding a gun. However, his gun appeared in [[Shopping for Danger]], though Blue Laser Commander never saw it.

===Fixed Goofs===
[[Image:Cheat Commandos Lime No Decend.PNG|thumb|The floating lime]]
*When Crackotage's arm went down after showing the lime, the lime didn't descend with his arm. This was quickly fixed by removing the downwards arm movement.

===Inside References===
*The Lil' Steiny piano is a reference to [[Stiny]]'s nickname, Li'l Stiny, from [[superhero name]].
*The page title refers to [[A. Chimendez]].
*This is another instance of [[Blood|blood]] in a cartoon.
*This is another instance of [[Cheap as Free]] in a cartoon.
*The price of each Easter egg action figure is [[$11.01]].

===Real-World References===
*The Lil' Steiny piano is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Steinway & Sons|Steinway & Sons]] pianos.
*"Over the river and through the woods" is a reference to the Christmas song, [[Wikipedia:Over the River and Through the Woods|Over the River and Through the Woods]], by Lydia Maria Child.
*Oliver Smidgen is an allusion to [[Wikipedia:Oliver Twist|Oliver Twist]] and Tiny Tim.
*[[Wikipedia:Claude Monet|Claude Monet]] (1840-1926) was a French Impressionist painter.
*[[Wikipedia:Manchester United|Manchester United]] Football Club is a world-famous English football club.
*Reynold's brother dresses and acts very much like a stereotypical [[Wikipedia:Mansonite|kindergoth]]. The music he listens to is a parody of [[Wikipedia:Punk rock|punk]] and [[Wikipedia:Emo (music)|emo]] music. The way in which the words "no one understands me" are sung is similar to the way "hope and understanding" are sung in the emo band [[Wikipedia:Spoken (band)|Spoken]]'s song "Wind In My Sails."
*The poster in Reynold's Brother's room displays the [[Wikipedia:Anarchy|anarchy]] symbol.
*The gun that Gunhaver is holding resembles a Colt .45 [[Wikipedia:M1911|M1911]].

==External Links==
*[[HR:ccdo5.html|watch "Let Us Give TANKS!"]]
*[[HR:ccdo5.swf|view the Flash file for "Let Us Give TANKS!"]]
*[[Forum:10241|forum thread re: Let Us Give TANKS!]]

{{CheatCommandos}}

Dullard

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{{about|comic strip}} {{foremail|dullard}}

'''Dullard''' is a comic strip by [[Levert Burtmore]]. It first appeared in the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[dullard|of the same name]]. It is a parody of the [[Wikipedia:Dilbert|Dilbert]] comic strip by Scott Adams. It later appeared in the [[Puppet_Stuff|Puppet]] toon [[Biz Cas Fri 1]]. Three additional comic strips that can be found only on the [[strongbad_email.exe]] DVD appear below.

== Dullard 1 from Strong Bad Email #37==
[[Image:Dullard comic.png|450px]]

== Dullard 2 from puppet toon "Biz Cas Fri 1"==
[[Image:dullard_bizcasfri.PNG|450px]]

== Dullard (DVD version, method #2) ==
[[Image:dullard_dvd_2.png|450px]]

== Dullard (DVD version, method #3) ==
[[Image:dullard_dvd_3.png|450px]]

== Dullard (DVD version, method #4) ==
[[Image:dullard_dvd_4.png|450px]]
[[Category:Comic strips]]

== Dullard 3 from Strong Bad Email #159 ==
[[Image:Dullard_sbemail159a.png|450px]]

== Dullard 4 from Strong Bad Email #161 ==
[[Image:dullard-4_branches.png|450px]]

== Characters ==
Most characters in the strip correspond with different Dilbert characters.

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="70%"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Dullard Character !! Dilbert Character
|-
| align=center | Dullard
| align=center | [[Wikipedia:Dilbert (character)|Dilbert]]
|-
| align=center | Bald Boss
| align=center | [[Wikipedia:Pointy-Haired Boss|Pointy-Haired Boss]]
|-
| align=center | Generic Guy
| align=center | [[Wikipedia:List of minor characters in Dilbert#Ted, the Generic Guy|Ted, the Generic Guy]]
|-
| align=center | Female
| align=center | [[Wikipedia:Alice (Dilbert character)|Alice]]/[[Wikipedia:List of minor characters in Dilbert#Carol|Carol]]
|-
| align=center | Short Comb-over Guy
| align=center | [[Wikipedia:Wally (Dilbert character)|Wally]]
|-
| align=center | Animal wearing tie
| align=center | [[Wikipedia:Dogbert|Dogbert]]
|-
| align=center | Take Out Guy
| align=center | [[Wikipedia: List of minor characters in Dilbert#The World's Smartest Garbageman|The World's Smartest Garbageman]]
|}

== Fun Facts ==
*The line "everything is awesome", from the first panel in method #3, was previously used in the email [[little animal]].
*There is a Dilbert comic in which Dilbert helps the Boss change his password and which corresponds closely to the one in [[4 branches]].

Talk:Dullard

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== Screenshots? ==

Can somebody get screenshots of the other comics of Dullard on the DVD? My stupid computer won't let me do it.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 15:30, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Retitle article ==

To avoid confusin this article should be retitled Dullard (comic)

Yeah, that makes sence, Anonny. I'll go do that.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]]

:How does it make sense? There's no "Dullard" page. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:40, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Wait... isn't there? Oh weird. Well, it doesnt really matter if its called Dullard (Comic), because searching "Dullard" comes to this page. --{{User:Bubsty/sig}}

== Reprinting of the dialogue necessary?==

Does all the character dialogue need to be reprinted (like what was done for #1 for each panel)? I can see the reason for the text if the actual strip screen shot is thumbnailed. However, I think that takes away from the enjoyment of the comic if one has to read it like a transcript with all those curly braces/brackets. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 20:22, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Upon second glance, it appears that the screen shots from the [[strongbad_email.exe|DVD]] version are rather blurry and reading the text is somewhat cumbersome. Perhaps I should discard all the JPEGS I uploaded and replace them with much smaller PNGs. That, however, would more-or-less require us to "transcribe" all the dialogue. Any thoughts? {{User:The Paper/sig}} 20:26, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It looks fine as it is for the DVD ones. It would be nice if they all followed the same format style, like the first one be a picture only, not transcribed.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 23:53, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Capital idea, DumDe! I went ahead and replaced the old, smaller screen shot with a [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Dullard_comic.png larger, easier-to-read one]. Therefore, I went ahead and removed the reprinted text. It wasn't really necessary in the first place and it already appears under the [[dullard#Easter_Eggs|easter egg section of dullard]] anyway. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 03:06, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Are we even allowed to show DVD-exclusive comics here? Isn't that the same as showing mirrors to DVD toons? - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

: I agree. This is giving away stuff that TBC did not intend to make free. If we want the wiki to help TBC and the website, we shouldn't work against them by thwarting their merchandise sales. {{User:Bill/sig}} 14:01, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

== Dullard #4(SBE #161) -- Just a Comment ==

Wow. Dullard #4 is pretty violent compared to the previous installments. Heh! ~ [[User:Jessica Ingmann|Jessica Ingmann]] 13:31, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

== Dullard (4 branches) alt version ==

I've upped a cleaner version of the [[4 branches]] comic to fit with the others (rotated back, other elements removed).
[[:Image:dullard-4_branches.png]] [[User:Blendage|Blendage]] 14:00, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Dullard

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File:dullard-4 branches.png

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== Summary ==
Dullard comic from [[4 branches]]
== Licensing ==
{{web-screenshot}}

Talk:coloring

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== "Okay" ==

If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time that [[The Cheat]] has actually said a word... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Or is it? Are they just The Cheat noises? hmmm...{{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:34, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::They're still The Cheat noises. Distinctive, but The Cheat noises nonetheless. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:36, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::I think this one's pretty clearly unambiguous. Just to mess with people. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::It definitely sounds like a very clear (for [[cheat talk]] anyway) "Okay!" to me. ''Much'' more intelligible than all the other times people have claimed to hear actual words in The Cheat noises, at any rate. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 04:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I have no question in my mind at all that this is "OK", not just The Cheat noises. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::Let's STUFF'it! {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 04:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Don't think we need to STUFF it... It's also not a fun fact. I believe that it's probably "OK", but it's still a guess. And if we allow this, then we'll have to revisit other toons as well. Where would we draw the line?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Yeah, I agree with Loafing. Should we remove it, or do we have to have a holy-crap-long debate about it in the STUFFlands? -[[User:J2|J2]]
:::::::::STUFFlands isn't what Loafing said. Loafing said Herelands. Anyway, The Cheat does say "okay", and it's probably just to play with the fans, as Dorian said (more or less). It's a sticky topic if we want to make an exception to The-Cheat-language transcription rule, and I'm going back and forth on this one. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I don't think this is comparable to previous situations at all. The Cheat here does something ''completely'' out of the ordinary. In general, his vowels are always variants on "eh" or "er", but here he makes a clear "O" sound. Likewise, for his second syllable, he uses a "k" consonant, which is not in the Cheat's normal phonology either. I think it's quite clear that TBC meant this one to be unambiguous. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I disagree. I think it's still just The Cheat in his own language. Just because we think he said that does not make it so. Also, notice the angry black squiggle. That's hardly a mood where The Cheat would offer a compliant "OK". I'd suggest the real translation could not appear on a family website. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I agree with Qermaq --[[User:70.28.112.174|70.28.112.174]] 10:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I actually hear a "t" sound, not a "k". I think it could mean "OK" just because "OK" would be an appropriate answer. I also don't believe that TBC worry too much whether we can understand The Cheat or not. They don't have to document it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::I agree. The Cheat was MEANT to obviously sound like he said a real word for the first time. I think it's worth mentioning that.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
This isn't the first time it's happened. He's said things clearly like this before. This isn't notable on the page as it's still pretty much The Cheat talk. It freaked me out though. {{User:Salty/sig}} 12:46, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Well... after listening to it a couple of times, it's definitely still in The Cheat. I can hear a distinct "k" sound in there, but everything else is standard squeakyness. So it's The Cheat talk, just more distinct than previously.

Do you think he's going to speak some sort of english in later toons? [[User:Cyberdemon|Cyberdemon]] 20:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Hey, wait, has The Cheat ever spoken with his mouth open? I think everything he says is some type of humming sound. {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Nonsense! It's clearly CheatSpeak for "F*** You." --[[User:Tjsynkral|Tjsynkral]] 23:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:Just to go back to what J@ said a while ago, we've had a pretty long debate about it here.

Y'Know I think Salty might be on to something I've never seen [[The Cheat]] with his mouth open while talking in fact the only time he had his mouth open was in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] (which was creepy). Also that might mean The Cheat only opens his mouth while making [[Powered by The Cheat|powered by the cheat cartoons]] y'know cause there's nobody around.
[[User:Flamer8965|Flamer8965]] 17:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
== "College sign in coloring book?" ==
It looked to me that in the second page of the coloring book the Limozeen band members are giving the "Hook 'em Horns!" handsign of the University of Texas in Austin. Is this intended? It's freaking awesome. I know that band members usually give a sort of "I love you" hand sign but the sign given in the picture shows the thumb covering the two middle fingers with the index and pinky extended in a Longhorn Fashion.
[[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 13:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:The short version is that that gesture has a lot of meanings, is used by rock stars a lot, and is commonly confused with the sign for "I love you." Wikipedia has [[Wikipedia:Corna|the long version]]. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 21:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::Also it's most commonly known as "Rock on!" --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

:::They're called "the evil fingers" in [[fingers]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

== Interesting coincidence... or ''did'' I?? ==

This was removed from the article's fun facts, but I think it merits mention somewhere.

*The Chalkboard says "SOY IS MURDER" which is odd, given that she has been previously established as a [[Wikipedia:Vegetarian|vegetarian]]. This may be explained by Strong Bad's message in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]] where he tells Marzipan that tofu (a soy product) is really made of baby seals.

{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:13, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:I think the first part does not make sense. The second sentence might be OK to include. (The board says that soy is "ALSO" murder, btw.){{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:15, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::The first part neglects to mention that it says "TOO". As in, "Meat is murder, but soy is murder as well". The second part came to mind instantly for me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I've readded, editing the beginning part considerably. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I would prefer a more neutral statement, like "Strong Bad has previously said that tofu (a soy product) is really made of baby seals."{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:26, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I agree, as I don't think it really was a reference to Marzipan's Answering Machine. I think it's just Marzipan going overboard with her "hippiness" (e.g., the chinchilla protest actually being a protest to get them out of her basement).--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 09:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::: Baby seals is one possibility. The other is that "killing plants is no better than killing animals." Remember, she sings to vegetables, she had a seance for her plant, and made her veggie burger into homestar junior. Maybe the lesson was that plants are just as important.
::::::: and don't forget about when she decided not to cut the pumpkin off the vine. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I think this is the perfect time to use [[STUFF]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:04, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::It's related to her desire not to kill ''anything'', not to the answering machine message. Basically, it's just a joke. Her line "So that way, you always feel guilty" illustrates this. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:31, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
It's just a joke. It's like the guy on the Simpsons who said "I'm a fourth level vegan; I don't eat anything that casts a shadow." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 22:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::-ahem- SB says ''Tofu'' is made out of baby seals. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Yes, and tofu is made of soy. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:11, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree with PolarBoy, I think that the point is that Marzipan is part of the hippie idea that you can influence people to stop doing things by making them feel guilty about it. Kind of like fur. So, through whatever her logic is, consuming soy is akin to condoning murder, just as meat is. Spreading the feelings of guilt, myan!--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 23:08, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::O. -scuttles away-.--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
I've been told by quite a few people that areas of the Amazonian Rainforest are cut down to grow soya, usually from meateaters who want to have a go at vegans making out that soya milk and tofu are worse than dairy. However, the vast majority of soya that is grown is fed to cattle anyway. Could it be a reference to this?
:That sounds... oblique. The simple answer is that it's just playing on "Meat Is Murder", like has been stated at least a couple times here already. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Pressed Bunson? ==

Strong Bad raises a good point: What the crap is "pressed bunson"? The Google, it does nothing. Is this a reference to something (real-world or otherwise), or is this just another bit of standard-issue H*R nonsense? --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 07:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:If anything, it's just nonsense. No search on Google, Yahoo! or the Wikipedia turned up anything. Noted in the article. Possibly an inside joke just between the Bros. Chaps. [[User:WaveOBabies|WaveOBabies]] 11:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::My guess is they just want to mess with the wiki community and its over-obsessed fans. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 09:49, 23 Oct 2006 (PDT)
:::This is the second topic on this page where someone suggests that TBC just want to mess with the wiki. I can't believe that they would think about the wiki at all while they simply do what they like. In this case, they just made up a funny word. That's all.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I think it's just that the crayons couldn't be soy--since that's also murder--so they just made something up. Now I'm just wondering if anybody has any ideas as to what the word bunson could be based on, if any. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 21:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::Actually, it's possible that Strong Bad's head is blocking a "NOT" there, and "pressed bunson" is just a type of soy (made-up, of course). --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:37, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::No, you can see the full text when SB is entering the frame. Either way, it's no use speculating what a made-up word means unless we find a good reference ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== We just call it blue ==

I can't remember exactly which style of art it refers to, but one of the traditional art forms, like those of the Australian Aboriginees or Native American Indians, uses black where there should be blue due to lack of natural blue pigments. I'd put it on the page but it's probably better that someone finds the type of art first... [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ZanderSchubert ZanderSchubert] 07:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Most likely, black being called blue is a parody of racial things in Kindergarten and small school. --[[User:71.80.201.61|71.80.201.61]] 23:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::Your comment is nonsensical. As a former teacher of kindergarteners, I can aver that they don't get the race differences for the large part. There are no racial things in Kindergarten. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Actually, the first thing that came to mind when I saw the email was the Dudley Do-right movie. In one scene, Dudley compares his suit to the the villain's, to prove that he nemesis' suit was, in fact, dark blue and not black. --[[User:James|JamesGecko]] 21:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I think its more of a denial of any badness in the world, which seems to be the new age thing to do. Calling black "blue" would deny the negative connotations connectied to black, an idea much older than American racial issues, and puts a happy idea over the bad idea.--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 23:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== Kindergarten? ==

Doesn't the fact that Missy P had a baby link in with the kindergarten thing? I don't know, it was just a thought.
:Babies don't go to kindergarten. {{User:Salty/sig}} 12:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::Ssh... it's close enough!
:::What? No, it isn't.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:24, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== Hey, -man ==

Santaman, Santaman again, Monsterman, Teacherman... is it time to give [[-man]] its own page under [[Running Gags]] yet? [[User:Octan|Octan]] 13:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

:If you're going to do that, establish a very strong initial edit; make the first edit as if you won't edit the article again. Most running gag pages will be put up for deletion if the article does not appear strong. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 14:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

::And don't forget [[Marzipan|Marzi]]man. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::And [[Stinkoman]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I don't think Stinkoman counts. That's clearly pronounced Stinko *Man*. The others are pronounced faster, resulting in it sounding like "min", which is the joke here. -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::And the ever-present [[Wrestleman]]. {{User:Laramie/Sig}} 13:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

:This just sounds like "This and that" (Or whatever it's called). This is simply part of how homestar talks funny personaly.

::"This, that, and the other thing" (TTATOT), and point. It's always limited to Homestar, so it should be included, if anywhere, on his page. -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::...Then wouldn't [[:Category:Homestar Runner running gags|these]], too? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Hum. Point taken. I didn't even know that catagory existed. Sorry. I've been away for the last couple months, so I guess I've missed stuff. -{{User:YK/sig}} 23:00, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::Don't worry, we still love you. <3 —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::: But it's not just a Homestar gag, Strongbad says it to. I remember there was an e-mail signed "Cat" to which he refered to as catman.
:::::::[[garage sale]]. But it's definitely more a Homestar thing than Strongo Baddo. Homestar's done it at least four times, and Sib's done it, what, once? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Animas or Animals? ==

The fun facts, as well as this [[:Image:Homestar reportcard.png|image]], say that one of the subjects on Homestar's reportcard is "talking to animas". But when I watch it, it says "animals". What's going on? — [[User:Lappynapped|Lappynapped]] 15:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I also notice that the fun facts say "blossom" is misspelled as "blossum", but it looks ok to me. Were these mistakes that have since been fixed? — [[User:Lappynapped|Lappynapped]] 15:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:They both seem to have been fixed now. I watched it last night, and it said "blossum" (not sure about the animal/animas thing though). {{User:Saturn/sig}} 16:09, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::Well, clearly the [[:Image:Homestar reportcard.png|image on the page]] is the original release. Shortly after, they put the "l" back in "animal" [[:Image:Homestar reportcard 2.png|(from a file cached on my computer)]]. Then after that, they corrected "blossom" [[:Image:Homestar reportcard 3.png|(from the current file)]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:02, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::I fixed the image.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Vulgar... ==

So, should we link to [[Swears]]? --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Not really a swear, but it is vulgar. Like "crap" is vulgar too. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:19, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Tight Pants? ==

Oh, you all knew this was coming, right? Well, just to be the first to throw it out there, do you think that the purple crayon is a reference to Homestar's Daisy Dukes from [[long pants]]? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 21:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

"ballade purple" is a reference to megaman, unless ballades are naturally purple.--[[User:150.243.207.238|150.243.207.238]] 21:38, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:"Oh, I definitely say it's just a result of tight pants."
:"Oooohh, tight paaants!"
:"Sorry about that. What were we talking about?"
:"The tightest of pants."
:"Oh, right, right. Tight pants."
:"Once again, I point the blame squarely at tight pants."
:That was the exchange that immediately crossed my mind. Obviously it has a whole lot more to do with tight pants than creepy pants (which all the time get some... light globes).--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 22:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::'''Edit Conflict!''' Tight Pants...has a page, doesn't it? This is most certainly a reference, if I do say so myself. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 22:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Of Age Ladies & Canada ==

{Change to next page, which shows Larry with two women. The text says "Larry Strong Bad always serenades the 'of-age' ladies after the show". Larry's face has been colored like Strong Bad's, and his hands have been drawn to look like red boxing gloves. The girls have the Canadian Flag colored onto their shirts.}

I believe this is a reference to Canada's recent crusade against all forms of child pronography.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon#Legal_status_in_Canada

:I seriously doubt the Chaps know slash care about this whole thing with the Canada and the children and the misplaced R's... [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:35, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

::TBC won't be referncing Canadian stuff. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::How do ''you'' know? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:34, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::::It's theoretically possible, of course, but I think it's pretty huge stretch. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::This is a reference to the age of consent in Canada, which is 14. There's no doubt about it.
:::::: The age of consent in Canada is 18...
I first tough they where comparing Limozeen to Rush...

:Highly doubt it. TBC choose to stay away from controversial issues like this. Not to mention that referencing real-world events is [[Flashforward_2006_Seattle_-_28_Feb_2006#Pre-animation_Process_-_4:05_p.m.|a type of SBEmail that won't be answered]]. [[User:Blendage|Blendage]] 00:21, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

== graduate ==

I went ahead and edited the article about the cheat and grills but I don't feel I worded it well... Anyway I think it's ironic how many times we see Homestar wearing a grduate's cap only to find out that he's in preschool (possible reference?) [[User:Andrew911|Andrew911]] 00:45, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

== Fun fact? ==

Should [[Wikipedia:Cumin|Cumin]] be added to fun facts? I'm not so sure it's noteworthy. (It was in Homestar's report card.) {{User:Steve/sig}} 01:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:I think cumin is already a pretty well-known spice. Uh, it is a spice, right? {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:36, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

== nuturing your inner-Life Blossom ==

Does anyone else think that it is odd that the crayons don't write as to not let any life blossom shine above the rest and yet they get report cards with psuedo-grades on them? Noteworthy? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:But we don't know that Strong Mad and Homsar's grades are any different from Homestar's. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::Of course, that too would be rather, umm, interesting, if the just gave everyone the same grades to keep everyone equal. I can just hear Marzipan saying, "Oh, everyone gets roots and grass! That way, no one Life Blossom shines more than any other. Plus, the roots and grass are made of pressed bunson, so they double as a healthy snack!" {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Okay, that goes on my list of "Best Quotes of All Time" winners.--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== The messed-up nature of the school ==

Here's something that I think might belong in the remarks section.

This toon continues inconsistency that is present in the H*R cartoons about school. In senior prom, Homestar and Marzipan are at their senior prom. However, in this toon, Marzipan is a teacher while Homestar is a kindergarden student.

Should this be added? --[[User:Paczjj15|Paczjj15]] 16:08, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:And in [[high school]] Coach Z was a baby (the same as the rest) but in [[stand-up]] he was older than SB. I don't think TBC try too hard for absolute consistency, just whatever is funny. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::high school is Strong Bad's unphotographic memory.--[[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]]
::Also, in high school, when everyone is babies, Homestar isn't shown as a baby but is seen an adult mother/nanny/whatever, but in this he is kindergarden.

== Bean Beams ==

Okay, people can't agree if it's "laser beams" or "laser beans" that Strong Bad tells The Cheat to consider after "laser limes". Either one makes a certain amount of sense in the unusual context, and I can't really tell myself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:True, true. I was just going to say for the record that this is indeed a close one and I can't even tell which one it is myself. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::I hear '''beans'''. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:13, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::'''Beans''' speak to me too. --[[User:Benn|Benn]] 05:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I heard "beams" first time through, but repeated listenings aren't clear enough to swing me either way... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I distinctly hear '''bea''m''s''', which makes ''more'' sense than the other (which admittedly makes a tiny amount, if you think about it a while). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::I think both make sense, but I distinctly hear "beams".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::"'''Beans''' is heard by me. But it kinda sounds like "carrots" if you listen closely. {{User:Salty/sig}} 23:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I hear "Beams", although if I try, I can hear beans. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Yep, i hear '''beams'''. Although I can hear '''Lays or Beans?''' if I listen closely. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:20, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I definitely hear '''beans'''. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 23:31, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::'''Beams''' for me. Think about it. He says "Maybe just laser beams/beans." It seems to me if you say "maybe just", you're trying to bring something down to the lowest common denominator (If I may use math terms.) --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 11:52, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

I think maybe under "Real-World References" we should mention how Homestar's pronunciation of "crayons" as "crowns" is a parody of the tendancy of people in some regions (for example, many of the suburbs of Chicago) to pronounce "crayons" as "crans." Or would this be better placed on a page about Homestar's vocal mannerisms? As a mispronunciation, it's almost Coach Z-esque; kind of makes me wonder how he pronounces it...
: It's because he's portrayed as a kindergartener in this email. Note the use of "bafroom", "liberry", and "pie pie comics". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:11, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:: I suppose that rules it out as being just another of Homestar's mannerisms, but I think the Real-World Reference is still apt, since it's the only mispronunciation they actually call him on.
:::I think it's a real world reference. Many kids mispronounce it as "crowns" beyond the kindergarden stage. Me and my siblings were some of them. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
: Homestar mispronounces tons of stuff. "Total wave" and "doingg" come to mind. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 03:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== Goody Marzipan ==

I added a thing to the article, but it seems to be totally gone, and i can't even find it in the history. Did someone delete it, or did we lose it in the upgrade? I wrote about how Goody Marzipan refers to the word Goody, being short for [[Wikipedia:goodwife|Goodwife]] meaning a married woman.
:It's currently in [[STUFF]]. Please vote! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Um... what's a <s>Colt?</s> Cult? ==

Umm... HUTTAH! --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:Umm... What?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:: Er... a colt is a young male horse, but do you perhaps mean "cult"? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:22, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::[[Wikipedia:Cult|Cult]] would be a good place to start. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== A squeak ==

Does anyone else hear that squeak noise before MArzipan says "No lifeblossom shines brighter than another."

== Transcript Thing ==

I'm 99.5% certain that SB says "crap-crap" when his crayon breaks, not "crudcrap".
:Nah, it's clearly "crud-crap". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:08, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::I hear "crud-crap" too.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 23:24, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

== Webmaster in 1989 ‽ ==

I can’t believe that nobody has mentioned the fact that a coloring book for a 1989 tour has someone with the role of “Webmaster”. What could it have meant in 1989? Some variant of D&D perhaps? :) [[User:24.32.101.168|24.32.101.168]] 20:49, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
:It's not? It was for a while... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::It was deleted because the term "web" was actually used in hypertext systems since at least 1988. It might be worth mentioning the fact that the term only became popular with the World Wide Web in the early 90s.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:21, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

== Pie-pie comics ==

I hadn't thought of Pie-pie = Popeye. The first thing I thought of was Tintin (pie...tin...). I didn't even know Popeye was a comic, too, and not just a cartoon.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 23:21, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

User talk:Blendage

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Blendage:

== Dullard Strip ==

Hi Blendage, I appreciate that you are contributing to the wiki, and even uploading images. Well done! I'm sorry that I had to delete your picture of the latest Dullard strip. It's because we have a better one [[:Image:Dullard_sbemail159a.png|here]], even though you were the first one to upload it. You can see the latest changes to the wiki on the [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes page]]. Here you can also see reasons why changes to articles were made or images deleted. Keep on trangling! {{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:35, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi Loafing, it's fine with me. Is it possible to delete images though? I kinda didn't think about why it was deleted and uploaded it again. :( [[User:Blendage|Blendage]] 11:37, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I noticed and deleted it for you ;-) Only sysops can delete images or articles.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:40, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

User:Blendage

2006-10-30T23:08:03Z

Blendage:

==Hooray for Blendage!==
[http://www.wiffles.net/ I have a website.] That is all.

Talk:bottom 10

2006-10-29T23:19:11Z

Blendage: /* Marshie's 'Angry Face' */

== Wet The Cheat ==
"Evidently, The Cheat's fur makes up quite a bit of his girth, as evidenced by his decreased width when wet." i think he's so thin to make the cartoon glass-of-water dive reference more complete. at least that's what i got from it when i first watched it.

==Stupid real-world refernce==
im pretty sure saying that the bottom ten is done just like the lare show top ten is knda stupid. the bottom ten is kinda done like most top ten lists. and changing it so i t says it like a top ten lists seems obvious. i say take it out.

== Nibbles ==

I won't edit the transcript as it's being written, but I hear Nibbles say "I make good ear-plugs too", not "I need some ear-plugs too."
:That sounds more logical to me too.
:Fixed it. I've also done writing the transcript, so feel free to correct what's probably lots of mistakes. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 02:10, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:It sounds like "I think earplugs are cute" to me. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:30, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
It's definintely "I make good earplugs too". --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:34, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Let me guess ==

"Ugh. Let me guess. It's true! You saw it on the news! Hey, it was crazy, but it was worth a shot!"

There is an or in there, so it SHOULD be:

Ugh. Let me guess. "It's true! You saw it on the news!" or "Hey, it was crazy, but it was worth a shot!"

Because I am certain I hear an "or" in there. --[[User:ColorPrinter|ColorPrinter]] 02:12, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I hear it too. -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

Me too --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 14:59, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Ditto.--[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:32, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Tree-hugging - Homsar vs. army ==

I really, really think the tree-hugging isn't a reference to [[army]] as much as it is [[Homsar]] and his tree-hugging anctics mentioned in [[Strong Sad's Lament]] (which, of course, is assuming it's a reference to anything whatsoever and not just randomness). I mean, really. In army it was just a random insult being tossed around; with Homsar it had much focus, even if it DIDN'T have SB or HSR involved in it. I seriously wonder how we got army before the blog ref when the former seems so minor in comparison... Thoughts on the matter? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:59, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:Except Strong Sad's lament involved Strong Sad and Homsar, whereas army involved Strong ''Bad'' and Homestar. It really boils down to that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:08, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::It's still a major stretch as it is. Methinks it should be STUFF'd. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:25, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::: I concur. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:28, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::For all we know, Homestar might have wanted to have proof Strong Bad was a hippie. -- [[User:EMJS|EMJS]]
:::::Or maybe Strong Bad lost another bet. Didn't he lose a bet in an email before?--[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:32, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Garfield vs. Nermal / Marshie vs. Nibbles ==

I know this might be a stretch, so I thought I'd post here first. Does anyone else see the resemblance in Marshie and Nibbles' relationship to the perpetual battle of age vs. youth between Garfield and Nermal?
It was the first thing that stood out to me with those two. -- [[User: TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 1:29 12 July 2005 (CST)

No, I think it's a reference to how old characters are replaced by "newer, cooler" characters. -Kinsey

== Easter Eggs ==

This is the first time Strong Bad has acknowledged that there are easter eggs...should this be counted for something? -- [[User:Cocoa|Cocoa]] 12:27 12 July 2005 Pacific Daylight, I think?

:Nope, he acknowledged them in [[the process]]. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 07:43, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::An interesting fact might be that this is the first email since ??? that had no eggs anywhere.

Well, you had to wait about 10 seconds or so to hear him say that there aren't any Easter Eggs. Isn't that sort of an Easter Egg itself?

:Sort of, but our pattern on other pages when this happens is that it's ''not'' an egg. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:16, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Also, Strong Bad actually said "no easter eggs" so it'd be a paradox if that was considered one.
:::Yes and a paradox is a funny thing to include in a cartoon. I only found about the "extra" on the wiki, since I had quickly scanned for easter-eggs with the tab key and I clicked back because I didn't find any, and thus missed what Strong Bad said after. In my book it is an easter-egg. --[[User:VL-Tone|VL-Tone]]

Since people are adamantly claiming otherwise on the STUFF page, which is not such a good place for ''discussion'' as such anymore, I have to put my two cents in. In my opinion, things that happen after a pause at the end of the email/toon/etc ''are'' Easter Eggs, and deserve the title as much as the ones you have to click on something to activate. However putting them under "Transcript" reads clearer, and makes the wiki page flow better. This doesn't make them any less an Easter Egg, it's simply something done for readability. To quote [[HRWiki:Standards#Easter Eggs]]:<blockquote>An Easter egg (or just "egg" for short) is a secret part of a toon that can only be accessed by performing a particular action (e.g. clicking on a particular word or object) during a toon '''''or by waiting for awhile after the toon has "ended"'''''.</blockquote>(my emphasis). Note that there is in fact nothing on the Standards page that says that the wait-for-it eggs should be in the Transcript rather than under Easter Eggs, it's simply done that way by tradition. I guess this was more than two cents. {{User:phlip/sig}} 16:24, 17 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Look, an Easter egg is something HIDDEN that you have to activate. Things that happen after the paper comes down are in no way hidden, you just have to keep watching. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 16:50, 17 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::They are hidden though, just hidden behind a pause rather than behind a button. Yes, you just have to keep watching. You also just have to click this word, or that picture, to get the other eggs. I was missing the after-the-paper eggs for ages because I click the back button after the action stops, as that seems to be the end of the toon. It wasn't until I left the process running for a while in the background while I did something else that I even considered simply ''waiting'' for eggs. Sure it seems obvious know that I know... {{User:phlip/sig}} 17:02, 17 Jul 2005 (UTC)

==Not Pigeons==
"Not...pigeons" seems like a reference to [[different town]], when Strong bad tries to think of the best thing ever and ends up with "beef stew". Anyone else think so?

*No, it's just Strong Bad not being able to think of anything. It's not really a "reference" to anything. Strong bad is an (scatterbrained), and does this kind of thing often, as any HR fan knows. ;) --[[User:Homestar Runnar|Hometar Runnar]] (There, happy? I changed "idiot" to "scatterbrained.")

He's not an idiot. -Kinsey

Yeah, he's not an idiot!! And the Bad in his name is capitalized!! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Princess of StrongBadia]]

I think he really might be afraid of pigeons, and that he's ashamed of being afraid of them (similar to "Definitly NOT a speedo"-on other days). Strong Bad is a very quirky person with interests that nobody would expect (baking, watching soaps) In TGS there are several things that involve birds (birds hurting or killing characters, or simply getting shot out of the sky by a random helicopter).
[[User:Kefti islander|Kefti islander]]

Technically, since it was "Not Pigeons" on the list of things he doesn't like, it means that he ''does'' like Pigeons, through a double-negative. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 11:45, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I always thought "Not Pigeons" was because if he mentioned that pigeons were on his bottom 10, they'd seek their revenge and crap on him.[[User:DrWorm|DrWorm]]

==Tree Hugging or Buttdance==
The picture keeps changing back and forth. Let's pick one and go with it. I don't have much of a preference, so I'll get out my trusty coin here... Heads, tree hugging; tails, butt dance (get it, tails?). And... it's tails. I vote '''buttdance.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:08, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Go with the butt dance. It's the pinnacle of the whole email. Delete the tree huggin' if it isn't going to be used. -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:26, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Butt dance butt dance! {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 16:35, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::I got with the butt dance too, just cause it's so random! (and it made SB puke)

::::Yah. And, technically, butt dance was part of the email. Tree hugging happened another time that was somehow recorded for us to see now. --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:36, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::::I don't think we should use that picture of the episode. It spoils the "buttdance" joke. Same thing goes for the picture from Record Book. [[User:Poopsmith Z|Poopsmith Z]]

:::::::Keep in mind, a good picture is one that captures a main plot point, at the height or close to the height of the email. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:26, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::::::And you should never visit an HRWiki article without having first seen the toon. On Monday mornings, I always go to the official site first before I come here, so as not to ruin the surprise. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:34, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Chocozuma's Revenge and Technochocolate land? ==

What's with Strong Bad always combining aztec history and chocolate? Could this be counted as a reference?

I thought "technochocolate" meant techno- as in technology, not Tenochtitlan.

*Nope, he mentions the Aztecs right before. -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 12:07 12 July 2005 (CST)

::The monument. Gotcha. I was thinking of Club Technochocolate.

Hey. I FINALLY figured out the connection between Aztec history and chocolate. In the Wikipedia article on cocoa (used to make chocolate), it says as follows:
:::Cocoa was an important commodity in Pre-Columbian Mesoamerica. Spanish chroniclers of the conquest of Mexico by Hernán Cortés relate that when Moctezuma II, emperor of the Aztecs, dined he took no other beverage than chocolate, served in a golden goblet and eaten with a golden spoon. Flavored with vanilla and spices, his chocolate was whipped into a froth that dissolved in the mouth. No less than 50 pitchers of it were prepared for the emperor each day, and 2000 more for nobles of his court.

Also, in the Wikipedia article for Aztec, it states that cocoa grains were used for money. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec#Diet 1] Yet another relationship between Aztecs and chocolate.

--[[User:Dongolev|Dongolev]] 12:53, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:I thought the mayans created chocolate hundreds of yeaars before that...

WHat sounds better, Mayanchocolate or Tenochocolate (Technochocolate)? And Chocozuma's revenges relates to Aztec ruler Moctezuma II, who was basically obsessed with chocolate. --[[User:Dongolev|Dongolev]] 16:24, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

The word "chocolate" itself comes from "xocolatl", which is Aztec for "bitter water."

Isn't it technochocolate relate to the kinda of music (i.e. techno) and not the Aztects and it would be called Tenochocolate not TECHNOchocolate

:Aren't all these instances of "Technochocolate" just references to [[monument]]? That's what I always think of when I see it, even "Club Technochocolate". I'd better go check to see if this is already listed as a running gag. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 03:49, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

::It's not, but there ''is'' a page for [[Club Technochocolate]]. I think any more discussion on this topic should probably happen there rather than here. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:01, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

== Running Time ==

Let's get one thing established: Things that happen after The Paper comes down that are not Easter eggs count towards the email's running time, right? If so, I timed the email at approximately 4:57, ending it at Strong Bad's line, "No. There's no Easter eggs. I'm not up to it. Go away." -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:08, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

You timed it the way I've always done it. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:17, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:And that's incuding the long pause after The Paper comes down? -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:18, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Horrible Painting ==

Just curious if any of you think the Horrible Painting deserves being considered a member of the ever-increasing cast of characters.

:I'd say so. It does talk... [[User:SA2Tails|SA2Tails]] 17:44, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::I concur. I wrote the original description, and I'd hate to see my hard work go to waste, yeah?
:::No i dont think it should have a page [[User:Frotzer|Frotzer]
::::I think unless it shows up frequently, it shouldn't have it's own page. But then again, I think there are other pages of things where it has only showed up once....--[[User:bkmlb|bkmlb]]
It should have its own page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:25, 21 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Most definitely should have it's own page. It gives me the jibblies too. -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 1:25, 22 Jul 2005 (CST)

== Feed the Childrens ==

Does anyone else hear "doo doot doo" instead of just "doot doo" in the song Feed the Childrens? [[User:SA2Tails|SA2Tails]] 17:44, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:I do. Not to mention the unmentioned 'hey-heys'. (I've actually taken to humming this song under my breath around the house.

Does the part where they all start clapping hands and singing count as a "Hey Jude" reference? ~AC

:No, although it references songs like this in general. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

I '''definitely''' hear "doo doot doo" in the song. I've listened to it closely over and over, and it's subtle, but there's another syllable in there. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:15, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:I listened very closely. There are only two syllables at the "doot doo" portion of the Limozeen song. Why do people keep adding a third? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:25, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Then you must not be listening closely enough. Several others here on the wiki think it's "doo doot doo". I just took a poll of my coworkers, and they all hear that, too. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:45, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I changed it back because (at least to my ears) there are three syllables! I distinctly hear "do doot do". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:33, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:I turned it up very high and I still hear exactly two. The drums hit in the middle of the "doot" IIRC; maybe that's what you're hearing? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:35, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::I hear "Doot Doo." Unless it is a ''very'' quick "Doo-Doot," in which case a hyphen would be necessary. -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 18:39, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::I've turned it up loud, and listened to it numerous (10+) times. It's do-doot-do everytime. I've seen at least one other comment that agrees with me. That doesn't make me right, it's just makes me not pigeon ... er crazy! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:41, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:: It would have to be MUCH faster than the "La La"... which was fast enough that I formerly made it one "word"! I'm loading it to check AGAIN... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:46, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::When there's no background music, when it's just the claps, you can clearly tell that it's not a drum beat, and it's ''distinctly'' "doo-doot doo". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:48, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::: NO. I TURNED IT UP ALL THE WAY. I LEANED MY EAR IN TOWARD THE COMPUTER. I LISTENED ALL THREE TIMES. I HEAR EXACTLY TWO SYLLABLES EACH. Where do you think the break between them is coming? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:49, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::: I don't know what to tell you. I've played it for five people here where I am, and we all agree it's three syllables. Each time I asked a new person, I had them describe what they heard without first telling them what I think they should be hearing. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:54, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::: OH! I THINK I GET IT! I think you're getting confused on the vibrato in Gary's voice. There ''are'' two syllables, though. Ironically, the vibrato is LEAST noticeable in the "just claps" repetition, where you said it was most "obvious", so this theory isn't perfect. But that's as close as I am coming to hearing a third syllable—and it's still not a third syllable. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:56, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::: And, currently there is no such "consensus". The people you talk to IRL are hearsay, and here, it's two logged users and an Annony (who seems to think there are more than two "heys") against two logged users. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:58, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC) [EDIT: Okay, sorry, three logged users. I thought the original post here was yours. That still doesn't make it a "consensus."]

::::::: Are you saying I'm making them up? Because that's what I hear you saying. What possible reason would I have for doing that? To win a stupid argument? Sorry, but this isn't that important. Know this about me: I never lie. This is a question of fact, and therefore only one of us is right. I'm convinced it's me; you're convinced it's you. That's fine, because sensible people sometimes disagree, but I don't appreciate having my trustworthiness questioned, or at least having it seem like it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:12, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::::: Words in my mouth much? I am simply saying that I know nothing of your IRL friends. I am speaking to you: where do you think the three syllables are? How long? I hear the "Doot" in a beat and a half, and "doo" immediately following on the half-beat. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:16, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::::::: I believe now that you weren't trying to insult me. Please note that I was careful to phrase my comments using words like "because that's what I hear you saying" and "at least having it seem like it." I can't hear your inflection. I can't read your mind. All I can do is tell you how you're coming across. Not that we can't still be friends. ;) To speak to your question: This is what I hear: — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

::::::::: [[image:do-doot-doo.png|none]]

:::::::::Yeah, I figured that's where the extra "doo" was coming from, but that just ties in perfectly to my "you're just confused on Gary's vibrato" theory. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::::::::I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree. Agreed? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

::::::::::: For now (BTW, I'm hearing the "do-doot" as a single syllable, in case there was any confusion. Other than that, the beat remains identical.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:04, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::::I only heard two sylables in the Doot do's, but i could easily see how someone could here 3. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

::::::Hey there, I'm an 'Anonny' as you strange people on this Wiki call us. And I hear three. Though both interpretations are valid. --[[User:195.92.67.76|195.92.67.76]] 19:23, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::::"Anonny" is a reference to [[rock opera]]. It's a whole lot easier than saying "User without a user name" or "User known only by an IP address". I didn't mean it as an insult, but some "Anonny" users (not all or even most!) have been known to be trolls, which happens less often with users with user names. Maybe it is a bit bigoted, but most Wiki users tend to take IP-only users' comments with grains of salt. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:32, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

As a compromise, I am going to insert a footnote, at least as a temporary measure. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

I can live with that {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:As can I. It's been done before, such as on [[for kids]]. And yes, I'm the same 'annony' as before (the one who mentioned the hey-heys and has taken to humming Feed the Childrens). I just really like being known as 69.139.163.12 (yes, I'm odd), and don't really want to make an account because of that.

::Heh. I totally hear three syllables.... but I'm not sure I feel as passionate about this as you people do. ;) This song really reminds me of something from Aqua Teen Hunger Force... "It's fo' da shortiez! It's fo' da shortiez!" {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:40, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::I can live with it, but I still say it's 2 syllables. -- [[User:EMJS|EMJS]]

I just listened to it on my good headphones, and it is definitely doo-doot doo. I'm all for taking the footnote off. '''vote'd''' —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:47, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I listened closely, and I was almost certain it's do-doot doo. I then used the equalizer in Audacity to isolate the vocals and I'm completely certain it's do-doot doo. Also, I only hear vibrato on the last doo, not the first bit. Try as I can, I can't hear it as doot doo with vibrato on both. I can post the altered sound if anyone's interested. {{User:phlip/sig}} 03:50, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I've heard doo-doot-doo from the very beginning. Instead of splashing your arguments all over the wiki, couldn't you put it to a vote? IMO, take out the footnote. --[[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]]

: I can't hear that break in the first syllable. Not at all. A slight vibrato at most, and not even that all three times. While checking a deleted Fun Fact (which really was false, but I felt I just wanted to be sure) I listened YET AGAIN with the volume way up. I'm not sure why all y'all keep insisting otherwise. Forget the footnote; I'm half-tempted to just put it back the way it was; I am 100% no-question-in-my-mind THAT confident that it's only "Doot doo". And if the footnote is removed (with the three-syllable version left intact) I WILL put it back, end of story. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:41, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

: I just realized that I had good speakers that I had not yet connected to my new computer. So I connected them and listened again. Unsurprisingly, I just heard a more rich version of the two syllables. Sorry, guys. I let [[boring|doyng]] go. I let [[do over|Family Guy]] go. I WILL NOT LET THIS GO without at LEAST a footnote. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:48, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::We've listened to it, analyzed it, filtered it, slowed it down, turned it up, and after all that... the vast majority of people here hear ''three'' syllables. It's not a vibrato—''there is another consonant in there''. And those who are convinced of this are not just anonymous users, but bona fide logged-in members. Here is a summary of six of the seven members who think it's "doo-doot doo": "''distinctly'' hear," "hear [it] ''every time''," "''totally'' hear," "definitely," "heard [it] from the very beginning," "completely certain." These words are unwavering. They were spoken by users (save one) who have long histories of intelligent, thoughtful contributions. What ''I'' wonder (and I bet others would, too) is: Why can't ''you'' hear it? You can have your footnote as far as I'm concerned, but the transcript proper is correct with three syllables. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:46, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::: What's this filtered and/or slowed down version? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:44, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::: The filtered one is the one Phlip mentioned above. The slowed-down version is the one I made this morning as I was checking it again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:49, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::: The filtered sound is here: [http://phlip.websiteallies.com/dodootdoo.mp3]—the first sound is direct from the email, the second is through an equaliser that I mentioned above, and the third is through a high-pass filter that I since realised is even clearer (since the only accompaniment is a bass guitar and drums, which get mostly filtered out). If it's vibrato, it's ''very'' sharp, more a second emphasis than a simple wavering. Though I agree on keeping the footnote as long as someone hears it differently. We still have the footnote in [[for kids]], and I wouldn't suggest removing it regardless of how sure I am that it's "dogs". {{User:phlip/sig}} 00:05, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::: The filtered sound file's URL appears to be wrong. [[User:SA2Tails|SA2Tails]] 00:07, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:::::: It's probably just because this discussion is over a month old. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:11, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I heard kind of a do-oot doo the first and third time, do-doot doo the second time. [[User:Mucket|Mucket]] 01:36, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== just a remark ==

the brownie pictured in Chocozuma's Revenge is still in its wrapper. I feel like that should be mentioned somewhere
:The Remarks section is the place for that. Nice find. -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:31, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Not TTATOT ==
There are several facts that apply to a group of real-world examples, not just a single thing. But that doesn't make them any less of a reference. It's true that we shouldn't list every example we can think of, but a representative sample is appropriate. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:06, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
: But we've already seen the problem of doing that—new users add their favorite examples no matter what. It's happened in the past, it's happened for this very email. Also, if it's not a specific reference to a specific thing, it's more frequently put in Explanations if it's kept. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:11, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::Each of the items in question explained a reference and gave a couple of relevant examples. Most of the problem items I try to prune have competing explanations or examples. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:16, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::: Nuh-uh. It's an established precedent. It's a reference if it's a reference to ONE, maybe TWO distinct things (if two, they MUST be related.) If it's a reference to a common phenomenon which has appeared in many places, it's an Explanation. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::''{double edit conflict'd!}'' All right then, let's move them to explanations... (which I was about to do but I see you've already done). But the references ''are'' valid, and explaining them ''is'' useful to a user who might not be familiar. And the examples that are currently on the page are top-notch in their respective areas. Yes, we will have to keep them pruned, but that's better than omitting them altogether. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:17, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::: All right then. I'm still not sure it's necessary to keep all of them, though... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Name that Reference ==

Anyone know if the spooky painting is referancing anything? I know I've seen something like it somewheres...

:Perhaps you're thinking of the [http://www.strangenation.com.au/articles/canvaskids.htm haunted Ebay painting]. Probably not a true Remark or Real-World reference, but intruiging. Boo! [[User:Sgleason|S Gleason]] 05:55, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Okay, that was one of the creepiest things I have ever read... Made even more so at 2 AM (which is the time it is now). As if Strong Bad's painting wasn't enough to freak me out... --Annonymous User Number 69.139.163.12 (the original writer for the [[Horrible Painting]] page)

:::Yeah... That's pretty creepy alright. I'm always creeped out by the supernatural. But maybe they could at least show us the pictures from the camera. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:45, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::I'd rather not see them, thanks... It already took me long enough to sleep. --Annonymous User Number 69.139.163.12

:::::It kinda reminds me of a weird painting of a old-fashioned woman my grandparents have. I swear that her face changes. I have seen her smiling, sad, scared, and many others.... I'm not kidding, this is true. -Kinsey

:::::: Okay, thatkidsam. [http://www.castleofspirits.com/ebay8.jpg aaah!] [[User:Sgleason|S Gleason]] 02:54, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::::: Looks like Photoshop.
::::::::That's weird. after I saw that pic I had BAAD pains in my stomach... -Kinsey

:::::::::Yah, me too. About a day later. That picture's pretty creepy. I wouldn't buy it. --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:40, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Reminds me a little of Gollum from ''The Lord of the Rings'', but that's a heafty strech.

== Name that tune? ==

Once again, the tune from Strong Bad's intro song sounds very familiar. Where is it from?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:38, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== List? ==

I was just wondering... Do you think that we should make an article about the bottom ten list? Just a thought

:Nah. This ''is'' the article on the bottom 10 list. -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:24, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Easter egg ==

There's an easter egg at the very end of this, but it's not mentioned in this wiki's article. You have to wait a while longer than normal to see it.

:You mean when Strong Bad says, "No. There's no Easter eggs. I'm not up to it. Go away."? That's in the transcript. -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:47, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== SB Email: Jumped the Shark? ==

I think this one pretty much did it, what with the butt dance and the vomiting. Not that I have anything against crude humor: some people make it work quite well.. But Homestar Runner has always held a special place for me because even though it was aimed at older audiences, it was always so innocent. Bathroom humor is just out of place on Homestar.
[[User:67.1.38.32|67.1.38.32]]

:Yes, bathroom humor is just out of place on Homestar Runner. That's why one of the main characters (who has been around since the first Flash toon) is a Poopsmith. And the butt dance is from Homestar's character video that's been on the site for a long time. But anyway, this discussion is better served on the [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum]. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 05:19, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::I was a little put-off by the vomit joke as well. I had considered HSR a "safe-haven" against that kind of stuff. Up until about a year ago, HSR was a site that I felt comfortable letting my 6 year old view. Since then, I've noticed an ever-so-subtle trend toward South Park. We may only be in Alabama now, but I hope they stop before reaching Colorado. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:23, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::Are you seriously comparing ''South Park'' to HSR? I am a huge fan of both and I can say with some expertise that neither are anywhere near being alike (except, I suppose, that both are [quite good] comedies). And what's this about a little barf as being 'not safe' or 'not appropriate'? For one, you don't even see it. And secondly, I'd like to know how barf is in ''any way'' more mature humour. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 20:05, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::About the vomiting thing... didn't Coach Z puke in the couch in [[couch patch]]? [[User:80.43.23.184|80.43.23.184]] 16:07, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::Good points, Señor and Anonny, and, like Homestar Coder said, they belong on the [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:10, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Woman or High Talking Guy? ==

Obviously the chocolate lover is voiced by a falsetto Matt, but I wonder, is the character intended to be a woman, or a high-talking guy who Strong Bad intentionally calls "lady" intending it as an insult? Or am I overthinking this?

-- You're overthinking this.

-I thought it sounded like Reynold.

-actually, that's not falsetto; it's either just picking a high pitch or, I think, pitch transposed up using sound processing software.

== Number 8 ==

When Strong Bad says 'number 8', did anyone else notice that his pronunciation is the same as Yoko Ono's in the episode of The Simpsons where Homer et al form the Be Sharps, and Yoko records a song by saying 'number 8' repeatedly over a loop of Barney belching?

:That's a far, far, far, far strech. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:25, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::<strike>Ahhhh-Ooooh-Gah ... Ahhhh-Ooooh-Gah ... Aunt Gert alert! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:35, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)</strike>

::I don't think it's that far a stretch, it was the first thing I thought when I heard him say it and I expected someone else to have already referenced it on here. I've heard plenty of people pronounce it IRL that way as a reference to it, so maybe Strong Bad does too. Ah well, just a thought.

::That's still a very far stretch. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:48, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::It's not a huge stretch. The 'number 8' is a pretty memorable part of pop culture history, so it's not a stretch to think that TBC are referencing it. To be honest, I didn't notice it myself, though.

::::I happened to see this Simpson's episode last night. I have to admit, it's not nearly the stretch I thought it was. I'm cancelling the Aunt Gert alert! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 21 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Yes it sounds similar, but not enough to be considered a reference, it seems like a coincidence. Particularly because that is the way most people would intone "Number 8 is something...." {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:33, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

All I know about the pronunciation is I hear "Numboo 8", not "Numbah 8". --[[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 1:30, 22 July 2005 (CST)

==They forgot to lemme type this==

I don't think SB sez "They forgot this" twice. Any one else hear "Lemme type this" the first time? (see below) I don't wanna get into an editing battle, especially if I'm wrong! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:45, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

<blockquote>'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh man, this person made all kinds of typos. '''Lemme type this''', ''{changes "Weak Bad" to "Strong Bad"}'', they forgot this, ''{adds "the Good Dancer" after "Strong Bad"}'', they got this wrong ''{changes "Someone stronger than you" to "Someone that is ''a girl''" (with the phrase "a girl" italicized and in a pinkish color)}.'' Ah, there we go!</blockquote>

I isolated it and turned it way up, and it is for sure '''not "they forgot this" twice'''. I think you're <s>absolutely</s> right. It sounds like "Lemme type this" the first time. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:11, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:I'm pretty certain that it's "'''Misspelled this''', they forgot this..." rather than "Lemme type this." [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 18:41, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::I'm not 100% on the "lemme", but I'm sure I hear a "type". Could be '''"They mistyped this"'''. Striking out "absolutely" in my comments above. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:21, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::Allright, I'll agree with you there. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 02:01, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::: I bet all of you people expect me to adamantly assert my opinion here, right?
:::: Right?
:::: Actually, I have no idea what he's saying. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:47, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::I suppose it would be a good idea for me say something, having finally listened to the email on my good headphones. It looks good as written. (that is, '''Lemme type this, they forgot this''') —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:30, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::::It sounds like "lemme type this" to me. --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 00:45, 17 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::::I'll admit it sounds like it could be either one, but logically it would be "They mistyped this" as he's talking about typos that the emailer made. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 13:27, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)

: Okay, now I have an opinion. "Lemme type." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:59, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Varying Opinions ==

In this email, SB says he hates "songs that try to pass off la la's, na na's, and doot do's as legit lyrics." Yet in [[secret recipes]], his opening email song consists of mostly nana's. What gives? -[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 15:31, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::Yes, but SB's opening songs haven't been released as singles, have they? [[User:212.85.7.12|212.85.7.12]] 08:38, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::Well, no I guess. But it's still a song. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 14:25, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Re: Reflection movement ==

I have compared different frames one on top of the other in Photoshop, and Strong Bad's reflection ''definitely'' moves along with his head as "Re:" and "Fwd:" zoom up across the screen. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:19, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== First Tree Seen in H*R? ==

This could just be me, in that I could be completely off my rocker and forgetting something, but isn't this like the first tree seen in a Homestar Runner cartoon/e-mail proper?--[[User:Spanky The Dolphin|Spanky The Dolphin]] 07:20, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Well, why don't you go vote to accept [[Template:STUFF/bottom_10#The_only_tree.2C_except_for_that_one.2C_and_that_other_one|this fun fact]]. I'll point out, however, that the "accepts" are ''way'' in the minority right now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:51, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

There was the [[Places Strong Bad Made Up|Big Ol' Tree]] from [[different town]].

And there's a sycamore tree from [[cheat talk]]. --Anony 68

== Lappy's screen goof ==

The [[bottom 10#Goofs|anomaly with Lappy's screen]] is listed as a goof for this email; but I believe it's intentional, to go along with the "no easter eggs" theme of the email. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 07:49, 16 Jul 2005 (UTC)
: I don't think so. I mean, the contrast buttons worked in essentially every email with the Tandy or Compy, and we never listed those as Easter Eggs; nor did we count it in the "first time with no eggs since ----" fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:40, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Marshie's 'Angry Face' ==

Marshie's pained-looking face and accompanying BUZZ sound, suggest to me that Marshie is not angry, but is being kept under control by a system of electric shocks...

:Personally, I think that's a stretch. - 24.208.155.213

:Coupled with the VCR-style pause at the end, it probably represents the effect of Marshie being "put to the side". [[User:Blendage|Blendage]] 23:19, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

==Pink text==
Would it be alright if I put the words relatively, really, and a girl in pink, like this:

''really'' , ''relatively'' '' a girl''

'Cause I just did that, I want to know if it would be okay like that. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 18:16, 21 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:I can hardly read that, <s>but I'm not going to revert it until we hear some more opinions.</s> Do we ever do formatting like this? There's something about this that just doesn't seem right. (Note: I don't have a problem with imitating Strong Bad's screen within a <tt><nowiki><blockquote></nowiki></tt> area, like for the text of each week's email and the DELETED screen, but here we're talking about ''running text''.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:36, 21 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:I, too, dislike it if only because it's very difficult to read. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:10, 21 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::I'm going to go ahead and revert it. It's still hard to read, and in running text I think all font and color comments should be written out in the remarks next to the words. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:49, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

==Bottom 10 + 1==

I thought this looked pretty good. It documents what's in the transcript. Number 11 was displayed, though not typed, on the Lappy (at least temporarily). Comments? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:09, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

<blockquote class="lappy email">
1.Thcleaning up your own puke off the keyboard 
2.Songs that try to pass off la la's, na na's, and doot do's 
as legit lyrics 
3.Giving chocolate desserts dangerous names 
4.There was this one time ! had to hug a tree 
5.Um...not pigeons 
6.Foul stench of wet the Cheat 
7.Miniaturized versions of already bite-sized food 
8.Emails with more than 1 Fwd: or Re: in the subject line 
9.That horrible painting in Strong Mad's closet 
10.Dry t-shirt contests 
<nowiki>*</nowiki>11. The Jibblies 
<nowiki>*</nowiki>not in bottom 10 </blockquote>

: I think it looks clever, but number 11 was never displayed on the Lappy. It was only displayed on the cutaway shot in front of Strongbadia. The list in the fun facts section is a reproduction of the Lappy's screen at the end of the email. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:12, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Dang! You're right. Sigh ... I sure like the way it looks, though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:03, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== New SB Look? ==

Is it just me, or does SB look a little different? The brother chaps did change the caracter's appearance in the past of course, but could it be that time again for SB? if so, i kinda like it anyways! what are your thoughts?

''posted by Martin F.''

== Dry T-Shirt Contest ==

Should we attempt to compare Strong Bad's mention of a Dry T-Shirt Contest to a Wet T-shirt contest? It's kind of hard to pass up the reference. I don't want to link to it yet, but there's even a Wikipedia article for "Wet T-shirt contest" we could link to. It's very encyclopedic.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:30, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:I don't think so. First, I think this falls under the "everybody knows who Ronald McDonald is" category. That is to say, if you don't already know what a wet T-shirt contest is, then you're probably not old enough. Second, the Wikipedia article contains a very, er, nice example image of the subject matter, and this is a family show. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:44, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Ha ha. Okay, I was thinking the same, I just needed to hear it from someone else. Oh, and I noticed you moved this conversation from the bottom of the page. Why?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:47, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::Well, I've just been keeping the closed STUFF at the very bottom of talk pages when they get moved there. It just feels like their correct place, especially on long pages like this. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:53, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::That kind of ruins the "start a new topic" button on the top of talk pages then.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:06, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::Meh, it's just a preference... I'd never really thought about it, since I hardly use that button. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:43, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::Maybe I'll start putting them at the ''top'' of the page and see whether that looks better. I'll try that the during the next round of cleaning up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:15, 25 Jul 2005 (UTC)

==Songs that try to pass off la la's etc.==

Somebody tried to add "De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da" by The Police, and it was deleted based on the "keep it to these three" notice. It's a really good example, though; another one with the non-words in the title. (However, it technically doesn't use any of the specific non-words Strong Bad listed.) I think it should be reconsidered to replace one of the three given examples. -[[User:Polly|Polly]] 10:59, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:(I realize this is almost six months old, but I didn't want to start a new section for this.) At first glance, "De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da" is a really good fit for that, but the song is about those words. They're not trying to pass them off as legit lyrics because in that particular context, they ''are'' legit lyrics. Consider the line "De do do do, de da da da" is meaningless and all that's true. As big a fan of Sting's as I am, I know that he doesn't write lyrics that don't ''mean'' something, at least once you dig below the surface. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 23:20, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

== The "No Easter Eggs" Fact ==
Yes, I changed the fun fact after it was passed through STUFF. The reason simply being that it is false as it stands, but I didn't see [[video games]] while it was in STUFF, so I couldn't put it as an argument against. Basically, it boils down to whether having to wait after a pause at the end of the email counts as an Easter egg (not referring to whether we put it in the Easter Eggs secion on the wiki, but simply whether it's an Easter egg at all). There are then two options:
# It is an Easter egg. In this case the fun fact is simply false.
# It is not an Easter egg. In this case [[video games]] has no Easter eggs (you have to wait for a pause to see the menu of games, but I don't think anyone can claim that having to click on the games after this pause counts as "hidden". It is placed under the Easter Eggs section on the wiki page simply to have a place to hang the links to the four games).
Obviously, saying that this email has no eggs, but [[video games]] does is inconsistent. My rewording of the egg narrowed the option down to #2 above (with "...Easter eggs that you have to click to activate...") and corrected the link to point to [[video games]] instead of [[property of ones]]. {{User:phlip/sig}} 08:40, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:When you changed the fact, you wrote in your edit summary, "I knew there was one that was more recent. Is this still notable?" First of all, I agree with you about the lack of eggs in [[video games]], especially considering how we currently define what is and isn't an egg. The games are not hidden at all, and you hardly have to wait for them after the paper. Second, as to whether this is still notable, I think that no, it's not. The original fact was supposed to convey the sense of "it's been ''forever'' since they didn't have an Easter egg in a Strong Bad Email." Email #94, on the other hand, just doesn't seem that long ago.<div style="text-indent:1.5em">I think we have a bigger problem, though. This part of the discussion may need to move to [[HRWiki_talk:Standards]] or [[Talk:Strong Bad Email]] or somewhere, but '''we need to officially regard action that happens after the Paper as being Easter eggs.''' To quote Mike in the [[theme park]] commentary: "Is this a ''waiting egg''?" (emphasis mine). The point is that TBC consider them to be Easter eggs... why don't we? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:25, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)</div>

== Feed the Childrens.mp3? ==

Does anyone here have the reasources to rip Feed the Childrens into an MP3, and if so, would they be kind enough to do so and post a copy? -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== How new is "All-New"? ===
{{stufffact|Nibbles says he is 1 year old. Therefore, All-new Fluffy Puff Bite-Size Nibblers are actually not as new as they make out, or the advert is incorrect.}}
{{stuffverdict|15:14, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)|05:53, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|10|1|bottom 10}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Signing On ===
{{stufffact|The sign on Strong Mad's closet reads "STRONG MAD RD."}}
{{stuffverdict|16:27, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)|04:55, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|15|2|bottom 10}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== It's been how long? ===
{{stufffact|This is the first email without any Easter eggs since Email #39, [[property of ones]].}}
{{stuffverdict|21:54, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)|04:55, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)|accepted in a landslide|25|2|bottom 10}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Those hilarious jibblies ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad getting the jibblies was similar to his dance in funny.}}
{{stuffverdict|23:48, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)|04:55, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|12|0|bottom 10}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== The only tree, except for that one, and that other one ===
{{stufffact|This is the first instance of an actual tree in Free Country USA outside the Spooky Forest. Up until now, it was nothing but telephone poles.}}
{{stuffverdict|14:28, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)|04:55, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|21|3|bottom 10}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Tree's a crowd ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's tree hugging, by demand of Homestar, is a reference to [[army]].}}
{{stuffverdict|06:02, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)|04:55, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined, 17–2. A similar item (referring to [[Strong Sad's Lament]]) was unanimously declined|12|0|bottom 10}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Inter-Toon Quotation Reference ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's quote, "And bring some paper towels. Eww. And some tweezers." Is very similar to his message left on Marzipan's answering machine in [[Where's the Cheat?]], when he says, "Bring some towels. (Groans) And some garbage bags."}}
{{stuffverdict|17:43, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)|04:55, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|16|0|bottom 10}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Is the ride broken? ===
{{stufffact|A ride at Knott's Berry Farm uses the same font as Chocozuma's for its "Montezooma's Revenge" ride.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:12, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)|20:38, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined (original author's mistake)|9|0|bottom 10}}

== what does it mean by ==

8. Emails with more than 1 fwd: or re: in the subject line. And STRONG BAD: Oh, great. Let me guess: "It's true! You saw it on the news!" Or, "Hey, sounds crazy, but thought it was worth a shot!"

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:07, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
:Well, when you reply to emails in a certain way, they will put a special prefix in the subject line automatically. If you open an email and hit the 'Reply' button, it will add '''RE:''' to the subject, showing it's a reply. If you open an email and hit 'Forward' and send it to other people, it will add '''FWD:''' to the subject, showing it was forwarded. Generally, emails with multiple FWDs and REs are spam or chain letters, which is why Strong Bad prefers not to receive them. Does that help? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

Thanks DorianGray that helps alot, but waht i dont's understand is this: STRONG BAD: Oh, great. Let me guess: "It's true! You saw it on the news!" Or, "Hey, sounds crazy, but thought it was worth a shot!"

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 09:43, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
:Those two phrases appear a lot in the sorts of emails that get mass-forwarded. Often hoaxes of the form "Check this out, it's completely true! I saw it on the news! <insert frightening-if-true-but-actually-completely-false message>! I asked my friends, they reckon it's true too!" and so on. The "sounds crazy" one is from things where the email claims (falsly) that if you forward it to lots of people, something special will happen (often a chain letter). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:08, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
::Hundreds of such emails, and proof against them, can be seen at http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/inboxer.asp. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:14, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

== what exactly is a bottom 10? ==

Is it somethings you hate or something?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:22, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, it's the ten things you most hate. The more common term is "top ten", which means your ten favorite things. So "bottom 10" means the opposite of that. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:24, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
::Which is strange, although Strong Bad is known to do strange things. ;) — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:27, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
:::It's not that strange. It's just another way of saying "Your Top 10 most hated things" or something. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:31, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
::::I guess what I meant is the opposite, although Strong Bad doesn't really do opposite things. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:32, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

== Bottom Led? ==

Does anyone else hear "Feed the Childrens" as a reference to the a capella part of The Ocean by Led Zeppelin? I know it's only a partial similarity, but it does make sense, considering Limozeen is a pretty Zeppelin-esque band. Also, The Ocean is one of the few songs by Led Zeppelin that tries to pass off la-la-la's (and later doo-wap's) as legit lyrics.

If anyone could upload a sample that would be much appreciated.

:I don't find Limozeen at all similar to Led Zeppelin. And this isn't really similar to The Ocean musically. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:00, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

== Let's do the buttdance again! ==

Buttdance like the rhythm's down your pants!
I think it's a ref to Rocky Horror Picture Show. the TIME WARP!--[[User:Jetamo|Coach J]] 10:41, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

==Jibblies part of the 10?==

Strong Bad didn't know a #5 for his bottom 10. That should mean that #6-10 should be bumped up 1 and the jibblies would be #10- [[User:Sbdisciples|Sbdisciples]] 19:16, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

== the chocolate desserts ==

for each picture of the chocolate desserts with the dangerous names, is each one just the previous one with more chocolate things dumped on top? like chocozuma's revenge is just this brownie might kill you with a cup of pudding and more icing on top?

== fwd's ==

"Strong Bad refers to email with more than one "fwd" or "re" in the subject line, but most email services use only one "fwd" or "re" in the subject line regardless of how many times it has been forwarded or replied."\

I disagree with this. i used to recieve emails whose subjects were "Fwd:Fd:Re: cool test !" or something like that all the time. note how there are three.
:In addition, I'm sure it's entirely possible to manually insert FWDs or REs. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

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be clear who you are and what you want it to say. If your sig is a graphic, please post a link here. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 23:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

#I posted my image. I wasn't sure if you meant to upload the image to the Wiki or post a link to an oustide source. So I just did outside source. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/matbdaytrog.png Matt Bday Card Image]--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
#I made mine [http://elcool.pbwiki.com/f/DndElcool.PNG here]. Hope it fits :) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:34, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
#Here's [http://www.mrphlip.com/tmp/cornersig.png mine]... smallish, down in the bottom right corner, if you please. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:37, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
#I want mine to say 'Das654' but without the apostrophes. [[User:Das654|Das654]]
#[http://toastisnice.com/images/sig.jpg Here] is mine. Put it abywhere you like. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 18:56, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
#[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/andsean/Signature.jpg My signature]. Please remove the '05, if you can. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
#:Done and [http://www.odua.org/images/Signature.png done]. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 11:48, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#Make mine say "Thanks for not answering my emails—I mean, Happy B-day. —Ian M. AKA Trogga" --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:38, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
#Here's mine...I'm not sure which size image will be better, so here's a [http://www.geocities.com/vabeach2002dgh/Trey56_Matt_Bday_3.png normal-sized one] and a [http://www.geocities.com/vabeach2002dgh/Trey56_Matt_Bday_2.png bigger one]. Thanks for doing this! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:37, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
#<s>Type this in the font Gil Sans if possible: "Happy B-Day Matt, and thank you for creating the character that is Homestar Runner. Without You and your brother, this wiki wouldn't be possible."</s> {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 23:14, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
#:Actully Just use [http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3387/happybdaymattmq5.jpg this] instead. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 00:16, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#Please put mine there, too. Type in "As another year goes by, we’re all still here, analyzing your toons down to the smallest pixel. Happy B-day, Matt! -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']], aka Mary Lee Sauder" in American Typewriter if possible. Make sure my sig's in there. Thanks! -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 16:19, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#'''Updated 01:00, 29 October 2006 (UTC)''' [http://upload.team107.org/files/25/Cort%20S%20birthday%20card%20for%20matt.PNG Poof!] You may crop the image if it doesn't print well. Thanks. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:26, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#The kind of sig I had last year is fine with me: Just my username in some gothic font. You can see how Mib did it [[The Brothers Chaps' Fansite Acknowledgments|here]]. That'd be great. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:35, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#Here's my [http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/mattbdaydotcomsig.png message and sig]. Thanks one million! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:29, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#Here you go: [http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/20061028_Matt_B-day_Tom_Sig.png message and sig]. Thanks. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:57, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#Here is mine: [http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b204/Typhlode/mattattack.png]Don't ask me what it means. {{User:Salty/sig}} 20:20, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#Here's mine: [http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/Venusy/MattBDayCardSig.png]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 21:02, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#Is it too late yet? i have very little idea how to convert to eastern time, and due to half term hls am not entirely sure what day it is. Anyway if not then: "Never mind the bullocks, they cant use the internet (stupid hooves!), Happy birthday Matt from DumbMuscle" [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 21:25, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#Here's mine: [http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9171/signatureld2.png]. {{User:Exhibit A/sig}} 21:51, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#[http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b329/ThunderbirdL17/th_Thanks.png Done and done]. It's small but legible on my computer, let me know if you need a larger image, or if that'll work. And don't forget to take pictures of the finished card before you send it off for us. Thanks IRF. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:53, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#[http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m89/OakleyIsLoafing/combolations.png] That's all that's left of my ambitious "little drawing" ;-) Maybe I'll still update it before the deadline, though ;-)Thanks for volunteering to do all the work, IRF!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:09, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#[http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4150/mattbdaysigzg1.jpg Here ya go!] {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:38, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
# Please make mine say, "Happy B-Day Matt. May all your wishes come true and... I.... forgot the second part. -TheDenzel"--[[User:TheDenzel|The Denzel]] 00:02, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
#lets shoot for a 'happy birfday' or something equally as stupid andor misspelled. -theflytape8490
# [http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4319/nachosigsg1.png Here's] mine, IRF. - {{User:NachoMan/sig}}
# ''Happy Birthday, Matt! From Joshua and everyone else at the H*R Fanstuff Wiki'' - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:56, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
#What about this for the front? [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Matt_B-day_Cover.PNG Here] [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 12:26, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
#'''(edited 12:43)''' Happy Birthday Matt - hope you have a SO GOOD time! I'll try to remember to bring you a shell or some sand. Eat a steak, Blendage, England I like that front cover too. [[User:Blendage|Blendage]] 12:28, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

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be clear who you are and what you want it to say. If your sig is a graphic, please post a link here. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 23:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

#I posted my image. I wasn't sure if you meant to upload the image to the Wiki or post a link to an oustide source. So I just did outside source. [http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/bleed0range/matbdaytrog.png Matt Bday Card Image]--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
#I made mine [http://elcool.pbwiki.com/f/DndElcool.PNG here]. Hope it fits :) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:34, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
#Here's [http://www.mrphlip.com/tmp/cornersig.png mine]... smallish, down in the bottom right corner, if you please. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:37, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
#I want mine to say 'Das654' but without the apostrophes. [[User:Das654|Das654]]
#[http://toastisnice.com/images/sig.jpg Here] is mine. Put it abywhere you like. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 18:56, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
#[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/andsean/Signature.jpg My signature]. Please remove the '05, if you can. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
#:Done and [http://www.odua.org/images/Signature.png done]. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 11:48, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#Make mine say "Thanks for not answering my emails—I mean, Happy B-day. —Ian M. AKA Trogga" --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:38, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
#Here's mine...I'm not sure which size image will be better, so here's a [http://www.geocities.com/vabeach2002dgh/Trey56_Matt_Bday_3.png normal-sized one] and a [http://www.geocities.com/vabeach2002dgh/Trey56_Matt_Bday_2.png bigger one]. Thanks for doing this! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:37, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
#<s>Type this in the font Gil Sans if possible: "Happy B-Day Matt, and thank you for creating the character that is Homestar Runner. Without You and your brother, this wiki wouldn't be possible."</s> {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 23:14, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
#:Actully Just use [http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3387/happybdaymattmq5.jpg this] instead. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 00:16, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#Please put mine there, too. Type in "As another year goes by, we’re all still here, analyzing your toons down to the smallest pixel. Happy B-day, Matt! -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']], aka Mary Lee Sauder" in American Typewriter if possible. Make sure my sig's in there. Thanks! -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 16:19, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#'''Updated 01:00, 29 October 2006 (UTC)''' [http://upload.team107.org/files/25/Cort%20S%20birthday%20card%20for%20matt.PNG Poof!] You may crop the image if it doesn't print well. Thanks. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:26, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#The kind of sig I had last year is fine with me: Just my username in some gothic font. You can see how Mib did it [[The Brothers Chaps' Fansite Acknowledgments|here]]. That'd be great. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:35, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#Here's my [http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/mattbdaydotcomsig.png message and sig]. Thanks one million! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:29, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#Here you go: [http://www.hrwiki.org/temporary_files/20061028_Matt_B-day_Tom_Sig.png message and sig]. Thanks. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:57, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#Here is mine: [http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b204/Typhlode/mattattack.png]Don't ask me what it means. {{User:Salty/sig}} 20:20, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#Here's mine: [http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/Venusy/MattBDayCardSig.png]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 21:02, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#Is it too late yet? i have very little idea how to convert to eastern time, and due to half term hls am not entirely sure what day it is. Anyway if not then: "Never mind the bullocks, they cant use the internet (stupid hooves!), Happy birthday Matt from DumbMuscle" [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 21:25, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#Here's mine: [http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9171/signatureld2.png]. {{User:Exhibit A/sig}} 21:51, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#[http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b329/ThunderbirdL17/th_Thanks.png Done and done]. It's small but legible on my computer, let me know if you need a larger image, or if that'll work. And don't forget to take pictures of the finished card before you send it off for us. Thanks IRF. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:53, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#[http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m89/OakleyIsLoafing/combolations.png] That's all that's left of my ambitious "little drawing" ;-) Maybe I'll still update it before the deadline, though ;-)Thanks for volunteering to do all the work, IRF!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:09, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
#[http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4150/mattbdaysigzg1.jpg Here ya go!] {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:38, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
# Please make mine say, "Happy B-Day Matt. May all your wishes come true and... I.... forgot the second part. -TheDenzel"--[[User:TheDenzel|The Denzel]] 00:02, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
#lets shoot for a 'happy birfday' or something equally as stupid andor misspelled. -theflytape8490
# [http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4319/nachosigsg1.png Here's] mine, IRF. - {{User:NachoMan/sig}}
# ''Happy Birthday, Matt! From Joshua and everyone else at the H*R Fanstuff Wiki'' - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:56, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
#What about this for the front?

[[Image:Matt B-day Cover.PNG]]

[[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 12:26, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

#Happy Birthday Matt - hope you have a SO GOOD time! Eat a steak, Blendage, England
I like that front cover too. [[User:Blendage|Blendage]] 12:28, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Internet Slang

2006-10-23T15:39:00Z

Blendage: /* Strong Bad Email */

[[Image:Leetspeak.png|thumb|"pØwned! Or however you say that..."]]

'''[[Wikipedia:Internet slang|Internet Slang]]''' has appeared in various forms throughout the [[Homestar Runner (flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner universe]], including '''[[Wikipedia:Leet|Leet]]''', a variation of written language that substitutes various numbers and symbols for letters. The first use of Internet Slang appeared in the [[Strong Bad Email]] "[[i she be]]". Internet slang is commonly used in [[Graffiti|graffiti]].

== [[Teen Girl Squad]] ==

{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background-color:#eee;"
! Word/Phrase !! What It Means !! Context !! Appears In
|-
| align=center | '''T33n G1rl Squ4dx0rx!!'''
| align=center | Teen Girl Squad
| Displayed in the title bar.
| nowrap | [[Teen Girl Squad|Teen Girl Squad Menu]]
|-
| align=center | '''w00t!'''
| align=center | "All right!", "Okay!" or similar
| The girls say this in response to [[Cheerleader]] finding a fashion magazine.
| nowrap | [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 2]]
|-
| align=center | '''My card is totally max0rzed!'''
| align=center | My card is totally maxed!
| [[Cheerleader]] says this while wearing an elephant head at [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#The Mall|the mall]].
| nowrap | [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]]
|-
| align=center | '''woot!'''
| align=center | "All right!", "Okay!" or similar
| The former [[Presidents|presidents]] all say this in sequence after [[So And So]] asks if they'd like to go tandem parasailing with her.
| nowrap | [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5]]
|-
| align=center | '''pØwned!'''
| align=center | [[Wikipedia:Pwn|Pwned!]]
| Used when So And So is crushed by a [[Wikipedia:Koopa|Koopa]] shell. [[Strong Bad]] is not quite sure how to pronounce it.
| nowrap | [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]]
|-
| align=center | '''p4wned!'''
| align=center | Pawned!
| [[Tompkins]] says this immediately after [[Manolios Ugly One]] advertises his store at [[The Ugly One]]'s birthday party.
| nowrap | [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]]
|}

== [[Strong Bad Email]] ==

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Word/Phrase !! What It Means !! Context !! Appears In
|-
| align=center | '''gr8lookinggrrl, LOL, OMG, L8r'''
| align=center | "Great Looking Girl", "Laughing Out Loud", "Oh My God", "Later" (respectively)
| Seen in the instant-message conversation between [[The Cheat]] and gr8lookinggrrl.
| nowrap | [[i she be]]
|-
| align=center | '''g2g, roxors, lmao'''
| align=center | "Got to Go", "Rocks", "Laughing My [[Swears|***]] Off" (respectively)
| Seen in the instant-messages by Strong Bad's "ladies."
| nowrap | [[sugarbob]]
|-
| align=center | '''733t3d'''
| align=center | Leeted or Teeted
| [[Homestar Runner]] types this along with a [[50 emails#Homestar's attempts at DELETED|bunch of other words]] while attempting to [[DELETED|DELETE]] an email on Strong Bad's computer.
| nowrap | [[50 emails]]
|-
| align=center | '''g2g'''
| align=center | "Got to Go"
| Used in the sender's signature.
| nowrap | [[dragon]]
|-
| align=center | '''hooray4dolphins'''
| align=center | Hooray For Dolphins
| This was supposedly [[Marzipan|Marzipan's]] [[Characters' Contacts|screen name]] on an Instant Messenger program while Strong Bad was trying to respond to his email.
| nowrap | [[marzipan]]
|-
| align=center | '''M4RZIP4N'''
| align=center | Marzipan
| Strong Bad types this to pull up Marzipan's picture on the [[Compy 386]].
| nowrap | [[big white face]]
|-
| align=center | '''Dunkin' The Ch8t'''
| align=center | Dunkin' [[The Cheat]]
| Seen on a parade float in the [[Powered by The Cheat]] email.
| nowrap | [[mile]]
|-
| align=center | '''St8K DiNNeR'''
| align=center | [[Steak]] Dinner
| Strong Bad spray paints this on Marzipan.
| nowrap | [[origins]]
|-
| align=center | '''The Ch8t's Cheatventures in [[Moses MaloneLand]]'''
| align=center | The Cheat's Cheatventures in [[Moses MaloneLand]]
| The Cheat listens to this ongoing story to fall asleep.
| nowrap | [[bedtime story]]
|-
| align=center | '''4rt b4ndit'''
| align=center | Art bandit
| Printed on a shirt worn by The Cheat while he defaces a portrait of Strong Bad.
| nowrap | [[portrait]]
|-
| align=center | '''4actor Z'''
| align=center | Factor Z
| Graffiti on the shutter of Bubs' Concession Stand when Bubs closes it in outrage.
| nowrap | [[narrator]]
|}

== Other ==

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Word/Phrase !! What It Means !! Context !! Appears In
|-
| align=center | '''ROTF, FYI'''
| align=center | "Rolling On The Floor", "For Your Information" (respectively)
| Phrases exchanged between Homestar and Strong Bad.
| nowrap | [[Biz Cas Fri 3]]
|-
| align=center | '''PLZ'''
| align=center | Please
| Used in Homestar's "text message" to Marzipan.
| nowrap | [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2]]
|-
| align=center | '''OMG'''
| align=center | Oh My God
| Used when you get the coins from the log.
| nowrap | [[Thy Dungeonman 3]]
|}

[[Category:Electronics running gags]][[Category:Lists]]

Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 10

2006-10-16T16:17:49Z

Blendage: /* Mighty Warrior */

{{featuredarticle}}
==TGS Issue Picture==
Which picture should we use? [[Image:Mightywarrior.PNG|thumb|"Mightywarrior.PNG"]][[Image:TeenGirlSquad10.PNG|thumb|"TeenGirlSquad10.PNG"]]

Number one (the warrior) id say. its somthing difffernt
:The lower one definitely. It shows the theme of the episode better. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:47, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Stan! ==

In the hidden easter egg where The ugly one's dad is advertising, the way he is waving his arms around is a striking resemblence to Stan from the Monkey Island Games. Would this be a fun fact?

Easter Egg? If this exists why isn't it listed? --[[User:Mrdude|jake]] 15:37, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

It is. - Sahm
:Yup. It was listed sometime between 3:37 pm Oct. 10 and now, though, which explains the question. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:41, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

== New Software ==

I think the reason for the new animation is TBC got some new animation software and they wanted to test it out. [[User:DaChazman|DaChazman]]

It's all done with Flash. If it were done with Flash 8 (the new one) we'd know. [[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 16:25, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:Besides, with simple characters like that, you can do that with a few masks and shape tweens. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 21:13, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

I know there's some software that can export 3D animation to flash. It's called [http://www.erain.com Swift 3D]. However, I dont know if TBC are using it. -[[User:Jesselangham|Jesselangham]]

:They're not. There's nothing fancy with the rotation that they haven't done before, eg in [[funny]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 23:51, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, good point. That software is expensive anyway. Too expensive for a 1 second rotation. -[[User:Jesselangham|Jesselangham]]

== 3-D? I don't even know what that is! ==

I move that all instances of the word 3-D be replaced with the word 3D. Who's with me, eh? [[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 16:25, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:Can somebody who knows something about 3D software confirm that the "We got a spinner" gag is a reference to the bizarre glitches that such software sometimes create (elements moving by themselves in weird ways)? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:14, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:I found it to be a reference to CGI animation glitches like the ones shown under special features of Pixar movies.---[[User:RatherAnnoying|RatherAnnoying]] 19:29, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, that's what I was thinking of; like the monster's hair in Monsters Inc. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:32, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

: You're wrong, BTW. [[Wikipedia:3D|3D]] is an auto-redirect to [[Wikipedia:3-D|3-D]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:50, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

:And m-w.com doesn't recognize [http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=3d&book=Dictionary 3D], only 3-D. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:55, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

==Inside references==
In the party sequence, I know all the TGS inside references are listed in the cast of characters at the beginning, but is there any other appropriate way to mention it elsewhere? Say, an inside reference that simply says "See the Cast of Characters?" Also, can someone confirm my suspicion that this contains ''every'' TGS character seen to date (even a reference to Brett!), and that it's the first TGS to include a shot of the "real world," or of regular H*R characters other than Strong Bad? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:34, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:I'm not sure about your first question, but I can answer your second and third ones:
*2: No, it does not contain every TGS character to date. For example, the Floor Tom and the Vulture/Bat don't appear. See the Minor TGS Characters page for a bunch of characters that fail to appear.
*3: Yes and no. It is the first episode to show the "real world", but [[Pom Pom]] appears in episode #8.
:Hope that helps. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:45, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::This ''is'', however, the first TGS to show any character--including Strong Bad--outside of the comic's world. Pom Pom in issue 8 was still a drawing, as was Strong Bad's cameo appearances in issues 1, 8, and 9. This is the first time a TGS episode has had not-drawings in it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Actually, Strong Bad Email #53, "comic" also features TGS and "not-drawings" together. Which is the "official" TGS #1, anyway?
:::The Vultures do appear. See the bottom left corner of the scene where Manolios is introducing The Ugly One. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 19:55, 10 October 2005 (BST)
::::Sorry, I meant the Vulture from issue #2. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:58, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Vowels ==
Vowels are A-E-I-O-U "Y" is not a vowel :p
:Sometimes it is. It's being used as a vowel in this case. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::From the Wikipedia: "In the standard English language, the letter [[Wikipedia:Y|Y]] is traditionally regarded as a consonant, but as a survey of almost any English text, including this one, will show, Y more commonly functions as a vowel." So our anonymous friend is right. Y is not a vowel. And sign your posts.{{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:37, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::Also from Wikipedia: The name "vowel" is often used for the symbols used for representing vowel sounds in a language's writing system, particularly if the language uses an alphabet. In the Latin alphabet, the vowel letters are usually A, E, I, O, U, and in some languages Y, as in English. -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft.holmes]] 19:50, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Oh yeah, because an entirely user-edited encyclopaedia can NEVER contradict itself. Why don't we go with the majority and accept that Y is NOT a vowel?
::::[http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/RefEdList.aspx?refid=210026329 Encarta] seems to agree as well. After all, the way most schools teach vowels is A-E-I-O-U and SOMETIMES Y. In "sorry," Y is a vowel, as it is nearly impossible to construct a meaningful syllable without a vowel. Does "syzygy" also have no vowels in it? No. ... Okay, I rambled. Sorry. But Y is a vowel in this case. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:::: Because it is. The word "vowel" denotes how the letter is used, not what the letter is. As it happens, Y isn't the only "consonant" that can be used as a vowel (W is common, and G and H show up often too.) It's just that the five letters most commonly called "vowels" are the ones NEVER used as consonants. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:39, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

"Vowel" and "consonant" are phonetic distinctions, not letter distinctions. "We're sorry" is pronounced ([[Wikipedia:IPA chart for English|IPA]]) /wi:r sɒˈri:/ - both /i/s and the /ɒ/ are the vowels. It is simply that the large majority of vowel sounds are represented in English with A-E-I-O-U which is why they're called the 5 vowels. So we then have 2 definitions of "vowel" - a vowel ''phoneme'' (which is relevant for the "there's at least one vowel in every syllable" rule) or a vowel ''letter'' (strictly A-E-I-O-U, possibly Y depending on who you ask). The confusion only comes when you get the two confused - for example a syllable does not require A-E-I-O-U(-Y), just a vowel phoneme. Getting back to the point, it's impossible to pronounce words completely without vowel phonemes, /ə/ slips in everywhere (/wər sər/ is as far as you can take "we're sorry"). "Removing all the vowels" only makes sense from a vowel letter view, in which case Y only applies if whoever it is wants it to. And now I'm rambling a bit, so I'll stop. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:13, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

You know... even after all this controversy, it doesn't make a good Fun Fact, since she never mentions taking ALL the vowels out. She says "taking ''the'' vowels out," which, yes, implies ''all'' the vowels, but doesn't say it emphatically. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:33, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I'm confused. Have we reached a conensus yet? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 11:57, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

This is a horrible fun fact. Regardless of whether or not Y is a vowel... the scene is meant to be a pun on internet slang (in AIM saying sry instead of sorry). If they said "'m Srr" it wouldn't be nearly as catchy or funny. I fail to see how this is of interest to anyone. -[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:30, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
* As I pointed out on STUFF, that doesn't even begin to explain "prty," which was said before "srry". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:00, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

The slang term for sorry on the internet IS NOT srr it's Srry. As DMurphy said, it's not about the vowels. I say get rid of the thing.

This fun fact has been STUFF'd. [[Template:STUFF/Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|The TGS10 STUFF Page]] -[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 22:59, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

==The other side of the paper==
When the paper saying "Its over" in on screen, you can see the other side of the paper, which is the image of Strong Bad making out with the Ugly One. I dont know if you can see it on a regular screen, but I can only see it on my Laptop, if I makes the screen darker. - Lord-Z
: I see it too. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:Yes, and this has already been noted in the transcript. It's been covered just for you ;){{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 21:11, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== References ==
When the Ugly One's father presents her to the party, I am pretty sure that that is a reference to the MTV show, My Super Sweet Sixteen. Am I correct? --[[User:ItalianBallerina|ItalianBallerina]]

No, this is just a common practice at sweet sixteens. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 20:50, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm thinking the whole transformation of The Ugly One is a reference to the movie She's All That, in which Rachel Leigh Cook's character goes through the same kind of transformation. --[[User:P0wned|p0wned]]

:Or is it to Miss Congeniality? Or... what's that other one where an overlooked girl comes out of her shell—oh yeah, Cinderella! Fact is, the ugly duckling plot line has been around since, well, The Ugly Duckling. Probably before. It's a reference, not to any of the movies or stories that use it, but to that plot line. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:27, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

:: I'm not even sure that the word "reference" works there; it's just a similar story line. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:30, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, "I" think it is an insult to Hilary Duff. They're making fun of her by portraying The Ugly One as the superstar hotness(Transformation?) and her making out with Strong Bad is what the Brothers Chaps want Hilary Duff to do with Strong Bad. RHRN the Jigglypuff.

:RHRN, will you quit saying that everything is a reference/insult to Hilary Duff? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::Don't worry, Kookykman. RHRN ''has'' stopped. Blocked indefinitely for insulting comments, removing others' remarks, personal attacks, editing others' userpages, and sending a load of derogatory mail to Tom. We need not worry about that one anymore. Also, it was quite a while ago. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Breakin? ==
When Strong Bad says "Arrow'd II: Electric- wait a minute!", it seems to be a reference to "Breakin II: Electric Boogaloo", a movie which has been mentioned on the site before. [[User:TheSyndicate88|TheSyndicate88]]
:Check the fun facts, dude. It's already in there. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== Olympic Coach's Voice? ==

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Olympic coach is the only TGS character not voiced by Strong Bad. If so, do you think that's a worthy fun fact? [[User:SA2Tails|SA2Tails]] 21:53, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:What about Mr. Pitters?

:Also the vultures as they are eating Mr. Pitters do not have a Strong Bad-type voice. Maybe Fatty's Big Chance as well. The voice is grainy and rough, but not as much as the other characters. --[[User:Gillan The Villain|Gillan The Villain]] 22:19, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:The Scottsmen don't really sound like strong bad.- [[User:Jhonka|Jhonka]]

==Has 3D Been Used Before?==
I think 3D was used before. On [[The Luau]], the tofu seems to be spinning in 3D. -[[User:Lotionman|Lotionman]] 23:34, 10 October 2005 (UTC)Lotionman
:I think what has everybody so excited is that in this one the ''camera'' moved in 3D. Though I'm not sure it took anything more than plain ol' Flash to do that. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:Don't forget the opening to [[The Interview]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:21, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:True, but the animation here seems a lot smoother than that, with the spinning camera sequence, What's-her-face spinning and Strong Bad's movements at the end of the toon.
::Only because the framerate is higher. Flash's default framerate is 12fps - which is about the lower limit for most people being able to distinguish animations from a series of pictures. TGS10 is 20fps - so a lot of the animations are smoother. I've looked with the decompiler - just trust me when I say that What's Her Face spinning is done exactly the same way that they do Strong Bad's head turning to look from side to side. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:29, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

== Pictures from the Party ==

I made an image of the pan across the party, showing the minor characters appearing in attendance. It'd make a nice picture for somewhere, I think. (I had the idea of making it just a link, not an actual picture, and putting it in the issue 10 article somewhere. [[Duck Guardian One]] has an example of this in the Trivia section.) One thing though: the picture is roughly four or five times bigger in file size than what's normally recommended to upload. So I thought I'd tell people before acting, just in case. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Pwn ==
Is pwn a reference to [http://www.purepwnage.com/ Pure Pwnage]? Because thats basically the only other place I've heard it. - [[User:Faro1|Faro1]]
:It's vice versa - Pure Pwnage is a referance to the word pwn. Look at the [[Wikipedia:Pwn|wikipedia link]] from the article. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:31, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm glad they made fun of that term. Can't we just correct the typo and call it "ownage?" -[[User:Jesselangham|Jesselangham]]
:Its not a typo. It's [[Wikipedia:Leet|l33t-sp34k]]. -[[User:B|B]] 06:05, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
::It's not consistent in the transcript, though. In one place, the leet-speak is verbalized, with the pronounciation in italics, and in the other place the leetspeak's in italics with the pronounciation verbalized. Should it probably be one way or the other for both (either both having leet-speak in italics, or having the pronounciations in italics)? [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 13:00, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

== Goof or Remark ==
[[Image:Babydaddy.PNG|100px|thumb]]
<div style="border:1px #CCC solid;padding:3px;background:#fafafa;">''In the rotational scene, Cheerleader's ''baby daddy'' seems to come out of her dress.''</div>

:I think this inconsistancy was a mistake made by the Brothers Chaps, therefore a goof. However, It's dot com insists otherwise, rendering it a Remark. What is it? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:05, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Remark.'''</s> I'm not saying they did it ''on purpose'' per se. I ''am'' saying that because this sequence is the first of its kind on the site, they would have paid it extra special attention. Therefore, TBC would have realized the type is doing what it does. Maybe they actually did do it intentionally. Maybe they saw how it turned out and liked what they got. Or maybe there was some technical limitation that made it like it is. It doesn't really matter, because the point is that they didn't ''mistakingly'' do it the way they did. I mean, let's give them a ''little'' credit. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:13, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft.holmes]] 21:06, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I don't know how this could happen to make it a goof. There's no way they would have programmed the words to ''not'' be on the shirt and not have noticed. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 22:11, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Goof.''' Now I don't know for sure if it'd be easy to fix or not, but it seems to me they could have just omitted the "ba" and "da" to get a favorable result. If they noticed it, they probably figured it was just one frame and not worth fixing. But that doesn't change the fact that it is still a goof - missed or seen and ignored. This seems to be just as much of a goof as all the other ones written down there. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}</s>
*'''Goof.''' When I posted it, I put it on goofs. I'm with Joshua on this one. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:33, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Goof.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:34, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Goof.''' Paying attention or not, the writing is off the shirt. That says ''goof'' to me. We don't know their intentions. -[[User:B|B]] 21:16, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
**The fact that we don't know their intentions is a prime reason for it to be a remark. I'd rather err on the side of TBC here. Calling it a remark when it was a goof doesn't make it less true, and leaves it open to interpretation. Calling it a goof when it really wasn't stigmatizes it unnecessarily. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
*Just because they don't bother to fix it doesn't mean it's not a goof. If we followed your standards, then we'd have to move a lot, maybe almost all, of the goofs to remarks. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:44, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
**Not at all. I'm trying to emphasize that they would not have been careless here, since the effect is new and unique. I believe they have both of these things here exactly how they want them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
* <s>'''Remark.''' After going through it frame by frame, I discovered that Cheerleader's text is floating off the ENTIRE thing, all three times, rather than the single frame that I thought before. So now I think TBC did it to make the overall thing look better when moving quickly, to make the 3D stand out more. But it still deserves mention. And a better picture. (It's hard to see what's what in the currect pic.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:17, 11 October 2005 (UTC)</s>
* [[Image:sbfacemask.png|thumb|right|Strong Bad's head, with and without masking]] '''Glitch''' - some explination of how TBC make things rotate is in order. Making a realistic rotation would be very time consuming, and you'd need to draw almost every frame to get it to look smooth. However, TBC take a shortcut - almost everything they make that rotates is just a plain sphere with a thing added on it, eg Strong Bad's face or his shoelace thingy - apart from that his head is perfectly round - so when they rotate his head left and right only the face and shoelace have to move, the actual head can stay still. Now for the second shortcut - when his face moves around his head, they don't actually do anything fancy to make it go "around" - they just move it straight from left to right, no distortion, no parallax, nothing. Then they take a mask the shape of SB's head and use it to crop the face to the head. The result - it looks like the face is going around the head. Look at the picture on the right if you're not sure what I mean. If the effect isn't strong enough they add things like skews to make it more real, but for the most part they don't need to. Now we come to Cheerleader's shirt. They did the same thing they always do. They animated everyone's faces and the writing on Cheerleader's dress as moving across them from side to side. Then they added a mask to their faces, but forgot to add a mask to Cheerleader's dress. Hence it is a glitch, I see no reason for them to do this intentionally, and a perfectly good reason for them to do it accidentally. As for Goof vs Glitch, I thought Goofs were things like plot holes, mistakes in the design of the toon, and Glitches were mistakes in the actual building of the toon in Flash, like this. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:56, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

:'''Thank you''', Phlip. For one thing, I had been wondering about the seemingly indiscriminate and interchangeable use of "Goof" and "Glitch." Seems to me a lot of Goofs around here need moving... Also, thanks for finally providing some insight on the way the Flash stuff worked. I agree it's a Flash-generated glitch, but for the record I'm not ''necessarily'' saying they didn't notice it and think it was cool. I think it's kinda cool myself. It enhances the 3-D-ness of it all, kind of a ViewMaster moment. :) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:12, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Glitch.''' Shifting my vote again. Phlip's explanation makes a lot of sense. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:07, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Glicth.''' I can go for a glitch here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:22, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

 <div style="border:1px #CCC solid;padding:3px;background:#fafafa;">''When Strong Bad rewinds the 3-D spin around, the "SO GOOD!" speech bubble disappears.''</div>

:Same deal here as above. The bubble was there, then it wasn't. All that happened was a rewind and replay. OOPS. Seems pretty clear, and the note is still there. -[[User:B|B]] 21:16, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Remark.'''</s> I really can't imagine how this could be accidental. I just don't see TBC watching this toon later and slapping their heads: "We forgot to keep the speech bubble there!" — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:36, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know ''I'' wouldn't want to deal with animating a speech bubble if I had a Monday deadline. I don't know how a rotating speech bubble would work realistically, so I think they probably took it out so people wouldn't look at it and say "wow, that just doesn't look good" if they got it wrong. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 22:38, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
***Look closely - they already did a rotating speach bubble the first time they spin around - it's just not there when they spin the second time... <s>So, '''Glitch'''</s>. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:56, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Goof.''' But this differs from the above. Although I doubt TBC did this without noticing, it is an "inconsistancy," which officially makes a [[HRWiki:Standards#Goofs|goof]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} (You know, we really are fighting over nothing. :P)

The wording of the Standard you linked is: "...if things mysteriously vanish or appear (and it's not obviously intentional...)." Personally I have a problem with that wording; I would move it be changed to "obviously ''not'' intentional." Little change, big difference. First of all, let's all notice that they ''did'' animate the rotating speech bubble on the first rotation, okay? Then it disappears because they're done talking. Now if it was in fact an omission, it was a pretty big honkin' one; it's not like the [[A Folky Tale#Goofs|grass around Strong Sad]]; it's a huge... well, thing. My personal opinion is that they left it off the second time because this rotation is essentially a ''visual'' effect, and they didn't want it to get in the way of the effect. If it was in fact an omission, it would have to be a last-minute, bleary-eyed, semi-conscious one (which doesn't fit the quality of the rest of the 'toon). I'm staying non-commital as usual, but I find the arguments for not even mentioning this one pretty strong. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:20, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
: "Not obviously intentional" conveys the meaning I intended when I wrote that better than "Obviously not intentional." For instance, with the "baby daddy" thing, it's not obviously not intentional, but it's not obviously intentional either. (If you can parse that.) However, the disagreement here is on just what IS obvious in this case. This much is obvious: they didn't just reverse and repeat the scene, since the speech bubble is missing. Maybe they just felt like drawing it twice, maybe the second time was an earlier version, or maybe it was intentional. And, at any rate, I'm not willing to call it a "Goof," because it's really not needed (speech bubbles are not physical objects in the real world, so its non-inclusion doesn't really affect what's happening in the scene at all.) So '''remark.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:43, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
::I agree with what Jay is saying and I maintain that it is a remark. On the other hand, it is pretty obvious by just watching the toon, so like AbdiViklas hinted, perhaps '''it should just go unmentioned.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:29, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I'm clean with leaving it out, but we should note for this discussion that, even though this is a ''visual'' effect, the sound remains, indicating a simple re-wind. The omission is indeed obvious, so leave it out. -[[User:B|B]] 06:13, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

The more I think about this the more it seems the must have tried just reversing the whole scene, speech bubble inclusive, and realised it didn't look very good (I mean, the speech bubble disappeared when they finished talking and String Bad started talking, and it would look weird for it to return), so they removed it. So I'm changing my vote to '''either put it in the transcript or leave it out entirely, probably the latter'''. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:22, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

== Making out ==

Is this the first time we've ever seen Strong Bad actually make out with something? I mean, he's always gone on about it. If it really is the first time I think it's worthy of a mention in the article somehow.
:It think this is the first time we've seen him... kissing. I think it's noteworthy. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:23, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
i thought that was discusting....i had too close down the window and turn the
volume all the way down!-[[User:Timmy!]]

its also the first time we have seen strong bad eating a girl, atleast the paper 1 is drawn on, tbc have been getting a LITTLE r rated with that!@!
and actually if you count fan hallloweeen costumes we did see "strong bad" making out with a girl before
:And if we put in that Strong Bad ate a girl, people are going to jump to the wrong idea.

1: He wasn't eating the girl, he was trying to make out with the girl on the piece of paper, not eat her. 2: How is making out "R-rated"? [[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]] 21:07, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

It's certainly not R-rated or 99% of the films ever made would be R-rated! However it certainly is a move to ever so slightly more "adult" material which along with the "teen pregnant" line in Commandos in the Classroom probably constitues a change in TBC's writing style, probably in recognition of the fact that there's no question of their writing for kids anymore. [[User:131.111.250.142|131.111.250.142]] 22:19, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

People, he is making out with paper. I think that we are being critical saying that the TBC is moving toward an R rated site. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 22:24, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

:I agree with Rogue Leader here. TBC are using humor, as they always do. Making out with/eating paper was intended to be funny, and nothing about it that I can notice is R rated. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 03:38, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

::If there was nudity (which, this site being family-friendly, there is not any), ''then'' it would be '''R'''-rated. This does not even come ''close'' to being R-rated! {{User:gwr2004/sig}} 03:58, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh, for God's sake. He's KISSING a girl. Not even a real girl! Can you imagine the devestating effect on little kids if they see that?!! Or even on us! Most of the Wiki are in their teens, so we all understand what sex is and in some cases, what it's like, and a lot of kids our age are constantly talking and joking about it at school, and yet we all complain about REAL tiny things, and run out the room screaming for mommy when Strong Bad says "make out". Jeez, guys. This is why I don't visit the Wiki much anymore. The people on the Weebl and Bob forums aren't like this. [[User:Poopsmith Z|Poopsmith Z]]

:That's a generalization, and it's not valid. Besides, who are you people arguing with? Everyone after the initial "R-rated" suggestion is saying the same thing: namely, that the suggestion was wrong. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:00, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

The eating a girl was obviously a joke since he popped the paper into his mouth with a picture of a girl on it, and by the way, lets not forget there is plenty of nudity, lets not forget the shower main page, homestar's butt dance, the alien dude in the shower in that 1 flash with coach with a bare butt(ugh, you made me member that ass)

It's not exactly Strong Bad making out with modestly hot The Ugly One, remember. It's extremely buffed animated Strong Bad. Sure, it's the first instance of him making out with ''something'' (the piece of paper). But I think that the first instance of him making out with a real character or something would be more notable. Teen Girl Squad isn't real, since it is drawn and usually voiced completely by Strong Bad. He was making out with the paper to make his scene more "realistic." [[User: Teh_Frossty_One]]

== Accents ==

Possible goof - when one of the three scotsmen speaks (to say 'BAGH! Only 23 metres!), he's speaking with an irish accent.

What? I think that it's Scottish. Plus, corn is no place for a mighty warrior! --{{User:The 386/sig}} 23:40, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

:People do that often (try to do a Scottish accent and wind up Irish). What we hear here is only a rough approximation hinting at a vaguely British-Isles accent. But please see the definition of [[HRWiki:Standards#Goofs|a goof]] (also linked just a little way up the page). A goof is not when TBC fail to meet our expectations; it's when they fail to meet ''theirs''. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:56, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh, man! What would the accents mean? I am just concerned. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 15:51, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:''Mean''? Um, are you being ironic? If so, I agree, it's not a big deal. If not... um, they don't "mean" anything. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:46, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

What the crud? Oh, if you said that I'm being ironic, then you're right, I am being ironic. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 22:33, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

==Special-Olympics Man?==

So... is the Olympics Man an amputee or what? I see no stick hands... -[[User:B|B]] 06:43, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Did you just say amputee? I think you're being ironic. But, yes, he's an amputee. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 13:25, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Not really sure how that question has anything to do with irony, but is that worth mentioning (probably as a note in the transcript), or is it too obvious? I'm thinking that since I had to ask, someone else will, too. -[[User:B|B]] 06:04, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Okay, it's become ''abundantly'' clear that it's going to be mentioned in one category. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 15:04, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, the third Scottish men has no hands, yet he is clearly able to hold his glass. Maybe the olympic man has really muscular hands, like him. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:09, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

What did you say? Oh, wait, you said that one of the Scots had muscled hands like the olympics man. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 15:22, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah, maybe the Olympics guy's arm muscles are so ripped that they've enveloped his hands! Or made his wrists indiscernible, anyway. :) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:07, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right, I'm just ironic. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 19:08, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

==Sweet DuffTeen?==
Why is Hilary Duff being insulted due to Sweet Someteen via Ugly One? (Sweet Sixteen reference) Also, there's MTV and Billy Idol feelin' down BECAUSE of that horrible reference/insult. RHRN
:I'm thinking "Sweet Someteen" is simply a way to avoid saying how old the girls are (something that's been hotly debated). Now, the part about Billy Idol feeling down: are you talking about something in the toon, or some bit of news I haven't heard? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:06, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
::Billy Idol made a song called "Sweet Sixteen" as well. - Lord-z.

Ask ol' Tommy that question, seeing as HE put it in the Wikipedia, not me. Oh, and tell him I'm a Hilary Duff fan who thinks she's HAWT and shouldn't be insulted even by [[The Brothers Chaps]]. RHRN
: What does Hillary Duff have to do with ANY of this? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:23, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Hmm... she made a song called Sweet Sixteen describing EVERY DETAIL about being sixteen years old. The Brothers Chaps were likely to have collected the detail and reverse it for the effect of Sweet Someteen...and Jay is...ARROWED!!! RHRN the Jigglypuff
: "Sweet sixteen" is a common phrase; in fact, there is a song called "Happy Birthday Sweet Sixteen" that was written before Ms. Duff was even born. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:27, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

:And easy on the personal comments. If Miss Duff herself reported being offended by it, that would be fairly noteworthy; if TBC said in a commentary or interview they had her in mind it would be a solid connection—but if "Sweet Sixteen" is the only connection, there isn't much to go on. (And frankly, I doubt TBC would go out of their way to insult her; their references tend to be reserved for pre-1995 cultural phenomena, and are seldom truly ''insulting''.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:32, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
My personal comments can only be commented by [[User:Tom]]! TBC might've accidentally gotten the info from Hilary Duff. I'm not a doofus. By the way...Yami Yugi was AFTER 1995,scalawag! They had a reference to a deserted island which was 1997! RHRN the Jigglypuff
:Right. ''Tend''. By personal comments, I meant "arrowing" Jay. (Who's Tom?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:57, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Tom is the creator of this Wikipedia! He is Exodia the Forbidden One incarnate! RHRN

:I think RHRN means [[User:Tom]]. And the word is "Wiki", not "Wikipedia". Wiki refers to a knowledge base anyone can edit, and [[Wikipedia:|Wikipedia]] refers to a giant online encyclopedia anyone can edit. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 22:01, 16 October 2005 (BST)

I was talking about how [[TBC]] are making fun of Hilary Duff with the Sweet Someteen reference to sweet sixteen. RHRN

:I'm not sure how else to say that I find it very unlikely. Unless whatever you mentioned about Billy Idol on Wikipedia (which as Venusy was saying, is a different website; we use the same software, but aren't really affiliated) has more proof, then I really don't think there's anything to be indignant about. Perhaps you could link to the Wikipedia article you have in mind? Otherwise, I think we can all agree that Hilary Duff's honor has been defended. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:11, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Are you sure? (He takes Gravity-Axe Grarl, the weapon, from his left pocket and pokes at all who respond) Don't make me get you...ARROWED II..ELECTRUC BOOGALOO!!!! [[RHRN]] the Jigglypuff.

Hilary Duff DID NOT invent the term sweet sixteen! It was around before she was born! There is absolutely no reason to believe that "Sweet Someteen" is a reference to the song. -[[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]]

:Exhibit A: I think we've covered the topic pretty thoroughly. Further discussion isn't really needed. RHRN: These Talk pages are for serious discussion of proposed changes to the wiki. Which we've now done. Any further, chat-type discussion is best on the [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:19, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Why don't we let Exhibit B take care of this! Sweet Sometten is possibly a reference to Hilary Duff and I won't give up until we defend her honour surely! RHRN the Jiugglypuff

:You're never required to "give up," RHRN. I can think of at least one sysop who was unhappy with a fact that was voted into existence; it's his right to still disagree with it. But what appears on the main pages is the result of majority agreement. In the meantime, I strongly suggest that you avoid what could sound like insults or challenging language to other users. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:30, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

:: *ACHOO!* Huh? What? Did someone say something about nickels and Family Guy? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:48, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:::LOL; in tactful allusion, yes. It abides as a testimony to the deocratic functioning of a wiki, with its drawbacks, as well as appropriate ways to express unresolved disagreement without revert wars or sulking, OR "giving up." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:21, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Gee...I summon Exhibit B in Attack Mode. It can't attack until I find out about the Sweet Someteen insult to Hilary Duff, even if it wasn't done on purpose. Unleash the proof! RHRN the Jigglypuff

:I still don't understand why it's an insult. A reference possibly, although at a severe stretch. It still stands that the phrase "Sweet Sixteen" was around long before Hillary Duff, and facts with features like this normally get voted down unanimously on [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 22:30, 16 October 2005 (BST)

Exhibit B shall be equipped with Gravity Axe-Grarl! Give me more information, or I shall attack your Life Points directly! RHRN the Jigglypuff

:RHRN, please stick to serious discussion or move the discussion to the forum. And the burden of proof is on you; I suggest you either provide a link to the Wikipedia article you mentioned or some other supporting material, or end this discussion. Also, by the way: unless 1) Hillary Duff was actually offended, or 2) TBC meant to reference her, then the only person actually offended was ''you''. An unintended "insult" that Hillary Duff either never heard about or wasn't hurt by, therefore, is... well, nothing. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:48, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

And now...I sacrifice Exhibit B to Tribute Summon Final Verdict, Tom must now decide on this because he made this Wiki! Muahahahahahahaha RHRN the Jigglypuff
:There's no need to drag Tom into this. It's already been turned down by several other respected users, and I'm sure Tom would say the same things they did. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:Actually, the Wiki community normally gives the verdict, normally with a [[HRWiki:Administrators|sysop]] just relaying back the results. And what do you have against Exhibit A and DorianGray? That ''could'' be considered a personal attack, which is something you could get blocked for. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 22:55, 16 October 2005 (BST)

:I'm no longer sure, RHRN, whether you're still seriously discussing or whether you're just editing for the fun of it. That's called trolling, and if I were a sysop you ''would'' be banned by now. It's time to find a different way to contribute to the wiki; maybe check out [[HRWiki:The Stick]]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:00, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
:(After edit conflicts): Aand that didn't help. Since I can't block you, I will take the liberty of removing your offensive remark. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:01, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

I attack a random troll by using this AbdiViklas Upgrade Ritual! I offer all these responders and Final Verdict to Ritual Summon AbdiViklas Anti-Troll the Not-dNd Duffman!(ATK/Infinity DEF/Infinity) RHRN The Zerg Jigglypuff

Now...I shall wait...for Tom. RHRN

A few things: first, could you rationally explain why you assume that "Sweet Someteen" a reference to the Hilary Duff song, let alone an insult? If you want this fact in, at least try to make a case for it, instaed of just insisting that it's an insult and spamming stupid stuff about Yu-Gi-Oh. Second, Tom did not make the wiki [[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] did. —[[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 22:31, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Well...JoeyDay and Tom should be here (Looks at his clock) by now. RHRN

how is hilary duff's sweet sixteen song even linked to sweet someteen?
this is the dumbest conversation ever!-[[User:Timmy!]]

Well, it does sound familiar, but it is as easily doubtful as it is possible. Now, let's STUFF this. The message RHRN was trying to convey, before you guys attacked him unreasonably, was that his assumption seems possible with evidence. [[User:Yata-Garasu|Yata-Garasu]] 22:07, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

:What's STUFFable? "Sweet Sixteen" is a phrase from way, way back. Unless we have some proof that they were referring to her song, it's a stretch. As we don't, we must assume it's a play on a common phrase, which is not notable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:10, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

::[[Wikipedia:Sweet Sixteen|Sweet Sixteen]] is everywhere! And [[Wikipedia:Sweet sixteen (birthday)|this one]] is most likely what they're referencing. And, I still don't see how it is an insult. Normally, references are compliments unless directly insulted. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 22:16, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

== Nick-at-Nite vs. Nick-at-Night ==
TGS10 references "Nick-at-Night" a misspelling of "Nick-at-Nite", which I think is worthy of a remark or a goof in the article. The current article corrects the spelling without mention of the mistake. -Komo
:You know, you're right! I've just noted it in the article. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:09, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::Good job Komo, but in the future, feel free to change that yourself. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:47, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

== Anorexic Girl squad? ==

The "let's get ready to eat NO FOOD!" comment might state that theyr'e anorexic, and not eating. sould I place a remark or explanation? --[[User:Benol|Coach B]] 20:38, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
: I don't think you should. Look at the food! It's a pile of corn. I wouldn't eat that. -{{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}}

:I think it's a reference to the fact that a lot of junior high and high school kids think it's not cool to eat lunch at school. At least, this happened in my school. Most of us would just get a roll and hang out in the courtyard. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 21:03, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
::No, you shouldn't mention it in the article. But I gotta say I was a little disturbed by it. We're really hitting the heavy subjects here; first teen pregnancy then peer-induced anorexia, then the unnerving age gap of Strong Bad (whatever his age is) and a someteen-year-old making out... (Note: the above mention of teen pregnancy is not intended to restart the amusingly earnest discussion of its putative scandal. Nor do I want to start such a debate about anorexia. But it did disturb me.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:26, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Oh, Abdi. I like how you throw gasoline on the fire and then hope it doesn't explode. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:For what it's worth, What's Her Face ''does'' consider eating something else later in the 'toon (though she doesn't get much of a chance due to spinning and being LATHE'd.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:30, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
::You know, the last time we ''actually'' saw them eating anything, they were MSG'd; maybe this is simply a reactive response. Though since then, So And So has expressed the willingness to accept a Lunchables or a juice box. Also, though we don't know whether they ate it or not, we ''do'' recall that day when lunch was a breadtangle of pizza, making this the second time their appetites have been thwarted by capriciously-themed school lunches contrary to the natural order of things. (It is What's Her Face who underscores that pizza belongs in a triangle—but, unless it had a soy-based imitation cheese topping, it is unlikely that she, as a vegan, would have eaten it in either shape.) In conclusion, between corn chips, corn-and-corn-alone, Lunchables with juice, and chocolate bars dipped in salt, it is safe to assume that a suitable foodstuff may be found for each of the Teen Girls, and we may tentatively ascribe their hunger strike to culinary imagination gone amok rather than to insecurities of image. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:51, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

==American vs. British==

Is it worthy of some reference that when the Scottsmen speak, '''meters''' is spelled '''metres''', the spelling in every other English-speaking country outside of the US? ~Isaac Smith
:Well, the Scotsmen are Scottish, I assume. Scotland is an English-speaking country outside the US, I believe. I'm guessing that's where it comes from. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Closed STUFF ==

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=== Vowel Obstruction ===
{{stufffact|When Cheerleader and So And So took the vowels out of words, they left in '''Y''', which is sometimes considered a vowel.}}
{{stuffverdict|22:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)|04:17, 25 October 2005 (UTC)|declined|21|9|Teen Girl Squad Issue 10}}

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=== Free Comics, USA ===
{{stufffact|This is the first Teen Girl Squad issue to take us outside the paper and into the regular Homestar Runner universe.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:12, 12 October 2005 (UTC)|12:46, 19 October 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|24|6|Teen Girl Squad Issue 10}}

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=== Electric Ozone ===
{{stufffact|"Arrow'd 2: Electric-" also alludes to Strong Bad's Ozone (from Breakin' and Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo) [[Halloween_Costumes#3_Times_Halloween_Funjob_.282003.29|costume]] in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].}}
{{stuffverdict|23:22, 10 October 2005 (UTC)|23:46, 12 October 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|20|1|Teen Girl Squad Issue 10}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Blue is a reference to the sky ===
{{stufffact|"Olympic Race" is a reference to Homestar's list on The Show.}}
{{stuffverdict|22:38, 10 October 2005 (UTC)|23:46, 12 October 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|22|0|Teen Girl Squad Issue 10}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Different Voices ===
{{stufffact|This is the first time a voice beside Strong Bad's has been used in the comic (the coach's).}}
{{stuffverdict|01:08, 11 October 2005 (UTC)|05:39, 11 October 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined (patently false)|10|0|Teen Girl Squad Issue 10}}

== ARROWED vs. ARROW'D ==

I corrected the spelling to ARROWED but was promptly reverted. Please don't revert a change without first researching it! Watch the toon and you will see that the page says "ARROWED II". — [[User:Bill|Bill]] 22:09, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
:Nice catch. I guess you proved how sometimes we jump too fast to conclusions, eh? The funny thing is we even have it spelt ARROWED II on the [[Arrow'd Guy]] page. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Well, with all the crap you guys must have to revert every day, a bit of gun-jumping now and then is certainly understandable — especially since I'm new and haven't established a reputation as a trustworthy editor yet. And it doesn't help matters that we're stuck with the "official" inconsistency of ARROWED! vs. Arrow'd Guy. — [[User:Bill|Bill]] 03:42, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

:::Or the fact that such things are usually spelled with a "'d" rather than an "ed" in TGS (for example, "MSG'd!" or "CEREBELLUM'd!"). "Arrowed" is kind of an anomaly in that respect, but it is how it was spelled in TGS. --[[User:Shippinator Mandy|Shippinator Mandy]] 22:08, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

== Strong... Bad...? ==

Near the end, I think Strong Mad and Strong Sad say "Strong..." "Bad...?" instead of "Uh..."s. Anyone agree with me on this? [[User:Kiyobi|Kiyobi]] 02:03, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
: I don't think so. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:17, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that it's at least not an "Uh..." coming from Strong Sad. Listen to it a couple of times, it might get to you. Or not. -[[User:Kiyobi|Kiyobi]] 02:38, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:I already did. It doesn't sound a thing like "Bad". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:10, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Really? Well, nobody's perfect, I guess. I still think he's saying "Bad?" -[[User:Kiyobi|Kiyobi]] 06:17, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:Well, I'm Nobody. And I'm pretty sure they aren't using the consonants necessary to form the words "Strong" or "Bad". Nobody, aka {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:20, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

== Increased workload ==

In the DVD commentary, the brothers mention that this episode took roughly 80% longer to animate than the others due to the higher framerate (20 fps instead of the normal 12 fps). But, all things being equal, and extra 8 fps would amount to only about a 67% increase in work. (e.g., A cartoon that takes 60 minutes to make at 12 fps would take 100 minutes at 20 fps.) Maybe the extra 13% of the time went to colorization. ''(The preceding comment was originally posted as a fun fact by {{user|66.220.96.135}}.)''

== Mighty Warrior ==

I don't get the mighty warrior... and I can't find out what it means? What's the meaning or the joke there?
: TGS is quite random; probably not a reference. [[User:Blendage|Blendage]] 16:17, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

User talk:Blendage

2006-10-02T11:37:30Z

Blendage:

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== Dullard Strip ==

Hi Blendage, I appreciate that you are contributing to the wiki, and even uploading images. Well done! I'm sorry that I had to delete your picture of the latest Dullard strip. It's because we have a better one [[:Image:Dullard_sbemail159a.png|here]], even though you were the first one to upload it. You can see the latest changes to the wiki on the [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes page]]. Here you can also see reasons why changes to articles were made or images deleted. Keep on trangling! {{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:35, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi Loafing, it's fine with me. Is it possible to delete images though? I kinda didn't think about why it was deleted and uploaded it again. :( [[User:Blendage|Blendage]] 11:37, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Talk:retirement A

2006-10-02T11:23:51Z

Blendage: /* There's more easter eggs strewn about this email */

== I got a great image of the easter egg ==

Click on Strong Bads diamond while he's talking to the [[Compy 386]] and the [[Tandy 400]] to see this

http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Eastereggretirement.PNG

== Text to egg. ==

This is the text to the egg... I don't know how to format it though. :S I apologize, I'm still learning.

clcknmsfrmylf.txt 
 
Cool nicknames for myself 
 
Giantus 
The Fake Frenchman 
Light 'n Fluffy (crossed out, with red NO!) 
Heaven in Tights 
Good Fortunator 
Bicep Lad 
Lebner 
Mighty Legit 
Dabney Coleman's Evil Twin 
Wisewallace 
/got nothin' 
The Detroit Locksmith 
Prudearce 
 
cldshplog.txt 
 
Cloud Shape Spotting Log 

lightswitch w/no cover 
baseball headed baby 
brown water 
michigan w/2 bites out of it 
smallish elboy 
box of crackers (unopened) 
pestilence 
2 salamanders giving low-5's 
oversized novelty comb 
cheap date 
strong sad's ghost 
uppity maitre d 
strong sad's corpse 
diet pills 
 
ltr2bkrythrftstr.txt 
 
Letter to Bakery Thrift Store 
 
Dear Bakery thrift Store, 
Whom do you think you are 
fooling? You sell old baked 
goods. The stuff regular 
bakeries throw away. So what 
if a loaf of bread is only 
29 cents? It's old bread. 
Should I start collecting 
roadkill squirrels, glue 
cotton balls to their butts 
and open an 'Aftermarket 
Rabbit Thrift Store?' Oh, 
wait. Yes, I should. Thank You 
Bakery Thrift Store. Love, SB.[[User:Ivysaur|Ivysaur]] 10:58, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

== There's more easter eggs strewn about this email ==

After the Horses/IT Pros joke, the chimney pipe can be clicked to show a Dullard comic about such a thing. There's also a couple of clickable squares on the Lappy screen before the TSoND; can't figure out what they do though.

Also, click on the plugs underneath the desk after the Tandy explodes for the pixelated explosion again. {{unsigned|81.178.84.219|10:57, 2 October 2006}}
:Good find :-) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:02, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

==Links?==
There seems to be no links on the website itself to the email, only here. How will the General Public SEE it?
--[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 11:06, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
:It's on the email manu. Clear you cache, maybe. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:09, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

== Goof ==

The lappy seems to still have all its keys, despite one of them being removed in [[cliffhangers]]. --[[User:60.229.93.56|60.229.93.56]] 11:13, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
:Well spotted. You could have just added directly to the article.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:15, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Talk:retirement A

2006-10-02T11:14:25Z

Blendage: /* There's more easter eggs strewn about this email */

== I got a great image of the easter egg ==

Click on Strong Bads diamond while he's talking to the [[Compy 386]] and the [[Tandy 400]] to see this

http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Eastereggretirement.PNG

== Text to egg. ==

This is the text to the egg... I don't know how to format it though. :S I apologize, I'm still learning.

clcknmsfrmylf.txt 
 
Cool nicknames for myself 
 
Giantus 
The Fake Frenchman 
Light 'n Fluffy (crossed out, with red NO!) 
Heaven in Tights 
Good Fortunator 
Bicep Lad 
Lebner 
Mighty Legit 
Dabney Coleman's Evil Twin 
Wisewallace 
/got nothin' 
The Detroit Locksmith 
Prudearce 
 
cldshplog.txt 
 
Cloud Shape Spotting Log 

lightswitch w/no cover 
baseball headed baby 
brown water 
michigan w/2 bites out of it 
smallish elboy 
box of crackers (unopened) 
pestilence 
2 salamanders giving low-5's 
oversized novelty comb 
cheap date 
strong sad's ghost 
uppity maitre d 
strong sad's corpse 
diet pills 
 
ltr2bkrythrftstr.txt 
 
Letter to Bakery Thrift Store 
 
Dear Bakery thrift Store, 
Whom do you think you are 
fooling? You sell old baked 
goods. The stuff regular 
bakeries throw away. So what 
if a loaf of bread is only 
29 cents? It's old bread. 
Should I start collecting 
roadkill squirrels, glue 
cotton balls to their butts 
and open an 'Aftermarket 
Rabbit Thrift Store?' Oh, 
wait. Yes, I should. Thank You 
Bakery Thrift Store. Love, SB.[[User:Ivysaur|Ivysaur]] 10:58, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

== There's more easter eggs strewn about this email ==

After the Horses/IT Pros joke, the chimney pipe can be clicked to show a Dullard comic about such a thing. There's also a couple of clickable squares on the Lappy screen before the TSoND; can't figure out what they do though.

(edit) Screenshot: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Dullard-horse.png]

[[User:Blendage|Blendage]]

Also, click on the plugs underneath the desk after the Tandy explodes for the pixelated explosion again.
:Good find :-) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:02, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

==Links?==
There seems to be no links on the website itself to the email, only here. How will the General Public SEE it?
--[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 11:06, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
:It's on the email manu. Clear you cache, maybe. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:09, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

== Goof ==

The lappy seems to still have all its keys, despite one of them being removed in [[cliffhangers]]. --[[User:60.229.93.56|60.229.93.56]] 11:13, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Talk:retirement A

2006-10-02T11:04:56Z

Blendage: /* There's more easter eggs strewn about this email */