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Talk:Strong Bad Email Statistics

2006-01-31T23:31:55Z

DMurphy: /* Updates */

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==Comments on the Progress==

This page is coming together quite nicely - I like what [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] has created thus far - I think the "No Loafing Pie Chart" was a great choice - it adds a perfect amount of humor to this page. The descriptions of the interpretations of the data are thorough and that's grood, er..good for anyone interested in the interesting field of statistics. I just hope the average fans of Strong Bad Emails will be as enthusastic about the statistical information as those who have a subscription to [[Nerdular Nerdence]]! Nevertheless, I think '''everyone''' (ability in mathematics notwithstanding) can learn something from the data charts. I hope to see/make a pie chart soon! --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 01:49, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

...Yep, I have no clue what you all are saying. --[[User:Color Printer|Color Printer]] 06:42, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Database ==

Anyone wishing to help with this project that doesn't want to undertake the tedious task of data entry can request a database from [[user:The Paper|The Paper]] or me. The database is a very user-friendly excel file which has data on Time, Location, Name, and various other categories for each of the 126 emails. Just [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Emailuser&target=DMurphy e-mail me] and I'll be happy to send you a copy of the file. --[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 15:45, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Wow! ==

[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] and [[User:The Paper|The Paper]]- you guys did a great job on this! It really makes this wiki look smart. This rocks! →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'' 23:58, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

This page is awesome and beautiful and beautifully awesome. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 11:56, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

== My god... ==

You guys have WAY too much time on your hands.

Yep, they do. --[[User:Color Printer|Color Printer]] 10:56, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Not really... any statistics major could put this together in 30 minutes or less. The hard part is data collection, which was already done before I got the idea to start this page. I know it looks like this would take days of work, but Excel makes the project easy to complete. Anyway, it's spring break for me, and I didn't have anything planned for the night I started this, so I decided to make a new page. --[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 16:23, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

==[[bottom 10]]==
Why do you say bottom 10 has 2 emails? The second one was just Fwd:'s and Re:'s.
:Still, after the joke, I think we were supposed to assume that an email eventually popped up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:43, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Nominated for featured article ==

This article has been nominated for article of the week and I for one would like to see that happen — it's a really great article. One thing that needs to happen first, though, is it needs a good opening summary paragraph. I might try my hand at writing one, but it would probably sound better coming from someone who really understands all this statistical stuff. Maybe summarize why these charts where created and what we can learn from studying the emails this way. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 04:48, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:You know what? I realy like this page, so whan I'm back from school I'll try my hand at writing one. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:16, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::I'd go for it if a good paragraph was written for it. Joey: a better place to talk about this would be [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection]]. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:39, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::So? What do think? Is it good enough? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 15:17, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::I'm sure my English teacher would think this is great, E.L. --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 00:55, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::Thanks! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:21, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::: E.L. Cool, that's a great intro paragraph. I'm glad to see this on the front page. Way to go! — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 00:38, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::::Why, thank you! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 04:17, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Intro paragraph ==

I think the intro paragraph takes the purpose of the page in the wrong direction. It shouldn't be worded to sound like this is a place for making predictions, because that's not what I came to this page for. I came to look at the charts. (In other words, keep the focus in the past, and not the future.) —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 22:55, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:The only part that is about making predictions is "...or how the future emails will be". If you want to change go write ahead. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:16, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::I like what has been added to the opening paragraph. It reads much more smoother now and I think the users of the wiki will notice. Thanks for the active interest in keeping this article up-to-date and looking smart. I think DMurphy may have left the project, but we're certainly keeping his creation in tip-top shape. Much appreciated. =) {{User:The Paper/sig}} 00:51, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Block Computer ==

Did you guys count the Block Computer from "Other Days"? Technically, that has 2 emails.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 23:15, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:We have rather "strict" (read arbitrary) guidelines meaning that first computer (or device) that Strong Bad uses in each particular email is the one we consider "used". In other words, we are aware of Block but we do not consider it one of the "others". {{User:The Paper/sig}} 05:39, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Time spent with... ==

Perhaps a new chart - time spent with each computer? Just a product of "Percentage of emails by computer era" and "Average length of emails by computer era".

Maybe even "Percentage of time Strong Bad spends physically in front of the computer," by email number or by era, but that would mean a lot of new data collection so probably not worth the effort. {{User:phlip/sig}} 04:16, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Scatterplots ==

I don't know about you, but on the next scatterplots, I would love to have Email titles with arrows pointing to all the outliers, above and below. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:28, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
:I will certainly take this into considering when/if I make a new scatterplot graph. Thanks for the helpful suggestion. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 03:45, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

== Back ==

Well, I stopped in to see how things are going today. I've been quite busy with school and other things, but I do have some time at the moment. I added a general statistics section. I'm also about to upload the Time Spent With Each Computer chart someone suggested. As far as adding arrows to the scatter plot goes, it's possible, but would require adding all the labels by hand. As there are about 15 outliers, not only would it be time consuming but it also might get a bit messy. Perhaps just a label for the outliers with the highest residual and lowest residual? Those would be Vacation and Colonization, respectively. --[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 03:51, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

=="Unreliable" Date?==

I just deleted [[sb_email 22]] was released between Vacation Postcard #5 and invisibility. It's as "reliable" as any others from LiveJournals. Why was this in the "unreliable" section in the first place? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:00, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

== Updates ==

It would be nice if this page would be updated again. This of course, looks like a lot of work. It would be nice if there was a way to streamline this process and have some scripts that would automate the creation of some of the wiki text elements and charts (nothing too fancy) for inclusion into this page. My guess is that using Excel's string function capabilities would help. Anyway, speaking of excel, the link to the original .xls file is gone. It seems strongfans has reorganized its site but i have no idea where to even begin looking for this file. Does anyone have a copy? It would be nice if the excel file could be kept in the wiki vaults instead of offsite, since we depend on that data for this page so much. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:45, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
* I attempted to upload the file a while back, but the wiki doesn't allow it. I gave a copy to The Paper and InterruptorJones a while back, so they may have maintained the DB. Otherwise, I have a DB that's not updated (I think it goes through 125ish). It really doesn't take a lot to update the DB... the hard part is making all the pretty graphs and it's such a time-sensitive page that it's tough to keep it updated. I think it would be best to just wikify the data and put it on a separate page. No way I'm up for doing that though... heh. If you want to Wikify the graphics too, be my guest, but I have absolutely no idea how to do that. Email me at dolan.murphy@gmail.com for the db. -[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 23:11, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
* Also, I'm not entirely familiar with Wiki scripting, but I'm not sure it would be able to, for example, calculate the least squares regression line or the rank of the length, so it may be best served in an excel file and it's just a matter of (a) figuring out how to host the file on the wiki or (b) finding a dedicated host that will update it after every e-mail, but who also knows how to calculate the LSRL equation (as explained in the article). I think this article could be a LOT better if we figure out how to open the database to the community. But, I know I'm tired of spending time updating graphs, so if there's someway to have wiki calculate the LinReg graphs and other things, please, be my guest. And if it's too much to update the LSRL every week, we could just base it on the first 100 data points... that should be accurate enough anyway. -[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 23:30, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Strong Bad Email Statistics

2006-01-31T23:30:31Z

DMurphy: /* Updates */

{{featuredarticle}}

==Comments on the Progress==

This page is coming together quite nicely - I like what [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] has created thus far - I think the "No Loafing Pie Chart" was a great choice - it adds a perfect amount of humor to this page. The descriptions of the interpretations of the data are thorough and that's grood, er..good for anyone interested in the interesting field of statistics. I just hope the average fans of Strong Bad Emails will be as enthusastic about the statistical information as those who have a subscription to [[Nerdular Nerdence]]! Nevertheless, I think '''everyone''' (ability in mathematics notwithstanding) can learn something from the data charts. I hope to see/make a pie chart soon! --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 01:49, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

...Yep, I have no clue what you all are saying. --[[User:Color Printer|Color Printer]] 06:42, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Database ==

Anyone wishing to help with this project that doesn't want to undertake the tedious task of data entry can request a database from [[user:The Paper|The Paper]] or me. The database is a very user-friendly excel file which has data on Time, Location, Name, and various other categories for each of the 126 emails. Just [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Emailuser&target=DMurphy e-mail me] and I'll be happy to send you a copy of the file. --[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 15:45, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Wow! ==

[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] and [[User:The Paper|The Paper]]- you guys did a great job on this! It really makes this wiki look smart. This rocks! →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'' 23:58, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

This page is awesome and beautiful and beautifully awesome. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 11:56, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

== My god... ==

You guys have WAY too much time on your hands.

Yep, they do. --[[User:Color Printer|Color Printer]] 10:56, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Not really... any statistics major could put this together in 30 minutes or less. The hard part is data collection, which was already done before I got the idea to start this page. I know it looks like this would take days of work, but Excel makes the project easy to complete. Anyway, it's spring break for me, and I didn't have anything planned for the night I started this, so I decided to make a new page. --[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 16:23, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

==[[bottom 10]]==
Why do you say bottom 10 has 2 emails? The second one was just Fwd:'s and Re:'s.
:Still, after the joke, I think we were supposed to assume that an email eventually popped up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:43, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Nominated for featured article ==

This article has been nominated for article of the week and I for one would like to see that happen — it's a really great article. One thing that needs to happen first, though, is it needs a good opening summary paragraph. I might try my hand at writing one, but it would probably sound better coming from someone who really understands all this statistical stuff. Maybe summarize why these charts where created and what we can learn from studying the emails this way. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 04:48, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:You know what? I realy like this page, so whan I'm back from school I'll try my hand at writing one. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:16, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::I'd go for it if a good paragraph was written for it. Joey: a better place to talk about this would be [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection]]. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:39, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::So? What do think? Is it good enough? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 15:17, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::I'm sure my English teacher would think this is great, E.L. --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 00:55, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::Thanks! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:21, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::: E.L. Cool, that's a great intro paragraph. I'm glad to see this on the front page. Way to go! — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 00:38, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::::Why, thank you! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 04:17, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Intro paragraph ==

I think the intro paragraph takes the purpose of the page in the wrong direction. It shouldn't be worded to sound like this is a place for making predictions, because that's not what I came to this page for. I came to look at the charts. (In other words, keep the focus in the past, and not the future.) —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 22:55, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:The only part that is about making predictions is "...or how the future emails will be". If you want to change go write ahead. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:16, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::I like what has been added to the opening paragraph. It reads much more smoother now and I think the users of the wiki will notice. Thanks for the active interest in keeping this article up-to-date and looking smart. I think DMurphy may have left the project, but we're certainly keeping his creation in tip-top shape. Much appreciated. =) {{User:The Paper/sig}} 00:51, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Block Computer ==

Did you guys count the Block Computer from "Other Days"? Technically, that has 2 emails.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 23:15, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:We have rather "strict" (read arbitrary) guidelines meaning that first computer (or device) that Strong Bad uses in each particular email is the one we consider "used". In other words, we are aware of Block but we do not consider it one of the "others". {{User:The Paper/sig}} 05:39, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Time spent with... ==

Perhaps a new chart - time spent with each computer? Just a product of "Percentage of emails by computer era" and "Average length of emails by computer era".

Maybe even "Percentage of time Strong Bad spends physically in front of the computer," by email number or by era, but that would mean a lot of new data collection so probably not worth the effort. {{User:phlip/sig}} 04:16, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Scatterplots ==

I don't know about you, but on the next scatterplots, I would love to have Email titles with arrows pointing to all the outliers, above and below. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:28, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
:I will certainly take this into considering when/if I make a new scatterplot graph. Thanks for the helpful suggestion. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 03:45, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

== Back ==

Well, I stopped in to see how things are going today. I've been quite busy with school and other things, but I do have some time at the moment. I added a general statistics section. I'm also about to upload the Time Spent With Each Computer chart someone suggested. As far as adding arrows to the scatter plot goes, it's possible, but would require adding all the labels by hand. As there are about 15 outliers, not only would it be time consuming but it also might get a bit messy. Perhaps just a label for the outliers with the highest residual and lowest residual? Those would be Vacation and Colonization, respectively. --[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 03:51, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

=="Unreliable" Date?==

I just deleted [[sb_email 22]] was released between Vacation Postcard #5 and invisibility. It's as "reliable" as any others from LiveJournals. Why was this in the "unreliable" section in the first place? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:00, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

== Updates ==

It would be nice if this page would be updated again. This of course, looks like a lot of work. It would be nice if there was a way to streamline this process and have some scripts that would automate the creation of some of the wiki text elements and charts (nothing too fancy) for inclusion into this page. My guess is that using Excel's string function capabilities would help. Anyway, speaking of excel, the link to the original .xls file is gone. It seems strongfans has reorganized its site but i have no idea where to even begin looking for this file. Does anyone have a copy? It would be nice if the excel file could be kept in the wiki vaults instead of offsite, since we depend on that data for this page so much. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:45, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
* I attempted to upload the file a while back, but the wiki doesn't allow it. I gave a copy to The Paper and InterruptorJones a while back, so they may have maintained the DB. Otherwise, I have a DB that's not updated (I think it goes through 125ish). It really doesn't take a lot to update the DB... the hard part is making all the pretty graphs and it's such a time-sensitive page that it's tough to keep it updated. I think it would be best to just wikify the data and put it on a separate page. No way I'm up for doing that though... heh. If you want to Wikify the graphics too, be my guest, but I have absolutely no idea how to do that. Email me at dolan.murphy@gmail.com for the db. -[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 23:11, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
* Also, I'm not entirely familiar with Wiki scripting, but I'm not sure it would be able to, for example, calculate the least squares regression line or the rank of the length, so it may be best served in an excel file and it's just a matter of (a) figuring out how to host the file on the wiki or (b) finding a dedicated host that will update it after every e-mail, but who also knows how to calculate the LSRL equation (as explained in the article). I think this article could be a LOT better if we figure out how to open the database to the community. But, I know I'm tired of spending time updating graphs, so if there's someway to have wiki calculate the LinReg graphs and other things, please, be my guest. -[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 23:30, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Strong Bad Email Statistics

2006-01-31T23:11:49Z

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| http://whois.sc/212.155.169.124 || 212.155.169.112 || 212.155.169.127 || 212.155.169.112/ 28
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| http://whois.sc/212.160.132.1 || 212.160.132.0 || 212.160.132.31 || 212.160.132.0/ 27
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| http://whois.sc/212.165.142.178 || 212.165.142.0 || 212.165.143.255 || 212.165.142.0/ 23
|-
| http://whois.sc/212.175.113.52 || 212.175.112.0 || 212.175.113.255 || 212.175.112.0/ 23
|}

===105===

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|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/212.175.234.145 || 212.174.0.0 || 212.175.255.255 || 212.174.0.0/ 15
|-
| http://whois.sc/212.180.97.162 || 212.180.97.160 || 212.180.97.175 || 212.180.97.160/ 28
|-
| http://whois.sc/212.184.4.242 || 212.184.4.240 || 212.184.4.247 || 212.184.4.240/ 29
|-
| http://whois.sc/212.187.48.185 || 212.187.48.0 || 212.187.49.255 || 212.187.48.0/ 23
|-
| http://whois.sc/212.202.49.90 || 212.202.33.0 || 212.202.62.255 || 212.202.33.0/ 24 212.202.34.0/ 23 212.202.36.0/ 22 212.202.40.0/ 21 212.202.48.0/ 21 212.202.56.0/ 22 212.202.60.0/ 23 212.202.62.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/212.208.63.1 || 212.208.63.0 || 212.208.63.7 || 212.208.63.0/ 29
|-
| http://whois.sc/212.211.136.33 || 212.211.136.0 || 212.211.136.255 || 212.211.136.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/212.218.64.68 || 212.218.64.0 || 212.218.64.255 || 212.218.64.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/212.219.250.37 || 212.219.250.0 || 212.219.251.255 || 212.219.250.0/ 23
|-
| http://whois.sc/212.224.22.39 || 212.224.22.32 || 212.224.22.47 || 212.224.22.32/ 28
|}

===106===

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.21.18.135 || 213.18.248.0 || 213.18.255.255 || 213.18.248.0/ 21
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.21.18.149 || 213.18.248.0 || 213.18.255.255 || 213.18.248.0/ 21
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.21.132.131 || 213.30.141.176 || 213.30.141.191 || 213.30.141.176/ 28
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.21.238.160 || 213.38.4.192 || 213.38.4.255 || 213.38.4.192/ 26
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.25.74.58 || 213.39.96.128 || 213.39.96.159 || 213.39.96.128/ 27
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.29.167.10 || 213.39.182.0 || 213.39.197.255 || 213.39.182.0/ 23 213.39.184.0/ 21 213.39.192.0/ 22 213.39.196.0/ 23
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.31.10.19 || 213.39.198.0 || 213.39.213.255 || 213.39.198.0/ 23 213.39.200.0/ 21 213.39.208.0/ 22 213.39.212.0/ 23
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.31.76.219 || 213.84.0.0 || 213.84.127.255 || 213.84.0.0/ 17
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.31.79.214 || 213.84.0.0 || 213.84.127.255 || 213.84.0.0/ 17
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.35.81.51 || 213.84.0.0 || 213.84.127.255 || 213.84.0.0/ 17
|}

===107===

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.132.32.130 || 213.132.32.0 || 213.132.32.255 || 213.132.32.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.136.188.180 || 213.136.128.0 || 213.136.191.255 || 213.136.128.0/ 18
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.139.192.139 || 213.139.192.0 || 213.139.192.255 || 213.139.192.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.146.154.197 || 213.146.154.0 || 213.146.154.255 || 213.146.154.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.154.227.202 || 213.154.227.192 || 213.154.227.207 || 213.154.227.192/ 28
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.155.178.35 || 213.155.178.0 || 213.155.178.127 || 213.155.178.0/ 25
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.157.193.76 || 213.157.192.0 || 213.157.196.255 || 213.157.192.0/ 22 213.157.196.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.157.193.141 || 213.157.192.0 || 213.157.196.255 || 213.157.192.0/ 22 213.157.196.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.157.193.149 || 213.157.192.0 || 213.157.196.255 || 213.157.192.0/ 22 213.157.196.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.157.193.222 || 213.157.192.0 || 213.157.196.255 || 213.157.192.0/ 22 213.157.196.0/ 24
|}

===108===

{{done}}

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.157.194.9 || 213.157.192.0 || 213.157.196.255 || 213.157.192.0/ 22 213.157.196.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.157.194.48 || 213.157.192.0 || 213.157.196.255 || 213.157.192.0/ 22 213.157.196.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.157.194.119 || 213.157.192.0 || 213.157.196.255 || 213.157.192.0/ 22 213.157.196.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.163.239.245 || 213.163.232.0 || 213.163.239.255 || 213.163.232.0/ 21
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.179.238.226 || 213.179.238.0 || 213.179.238.255 || 213.179.238.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.180.113.71 || 213.180.113.64 || 213.180.113.95 || 213.180.113.64/ 27
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.182.250.76 || 213.182.224.0 || 213.182.255.255 || 213.182.224.0/ 19
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.186.37.110 || 213.186.37.0 || 213.186.37.255 || 213.186.37.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.199.253.2 || 213.199.253.0 || 213.199.253.63 || 213.199.253.0/ 26
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.203.214.130 || 213.203.214.128 || 213.203.214.255 || 213.203.214.128/ 25
|}

===109===

{{done}}

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.205.19.4 || 213.205.0.0 || 213.205.31.255 || 213.205.0.0/ 19
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.217.251.31 || 213.217.224.0 || 213.217.255.255 || 213.217.224.0/ 19
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.218.24.90 || 213.218.24.88 || 213.218.24.95 || 213.218.24.88/ 29
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.235.226.174 || 213.235.226.128 || 213.235.226.255 || 213.235.226.128/ 25
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.239.194.175 || 213.239.192.0 || 213.239.207.255 || 213.239.192.0/ 20
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.239.202.209 || 213.239.192.0 || 213.239.207.255 || 213.239.192.0/ 20
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.239.210.243 || 213.239.208.0 || 213.239.223.225 || 213.239.208.0/ 21 213.239.216.0/ 22 213.239.220.0/ 23 213.239.222.0/ 24 213.239.223.0/ 25 213.239.223.128/ 26 213.239.223.192/ 27 213.239.223.224/ 31
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.239.212.45 || 213.239.208.0 || 213.239.223.225 || 213.239.208.0/ 21 213.239.216.0/ 22 213.239.220.0/ 23 213.239.222.0/ 24 213.239.223.0/ 25 213.239.223.128/ 26 213.239.223.192/ 27 213.239.223.224/ 31
|-
| http://whois.sc/213.239.216.165 || 213.239.208.0 || 213.239.223.225 || 213.239.208.0/ 21 213.239.216.0/ 22 213.239.220.0/ 23 213.239.222.0/ 24 213.239.223.0/ 25 213.239.223.128/ 26 213.239.223.192/ 27 213.239.223.224/ 31
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.17.59.6 || 216.17.59.0 || 216.17.59.255 || 216.17.59.0/ 24
|}

===110===

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.17.243.15 || 216.17.243.0 || 216.17.243.255 || 216.17.243.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.18.7.28 || 216.18.0.0 || 216.18.127.255 || 216.18.0.0/ 17
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.24.56.189 || 216.24.0.0 || 216.24.63.255 || 216.24.0.0/ 18
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.56.240.71 || 216.56.0.0 || 216.56.255.255 || 216.56.0.0/ 16
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.57.220.253 || 216.57.220.0 || 216.57.220.255 || 216.57.220.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.57.220.254 || 216.57.220.0 || 216.57.220.255 || 216.57.220.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.68.79.158 || 216.68.0.0 || 216.68.255.255 || 216.68.0.0/ 16
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.75.82.242 || 216.75.82.240 || 216.75.82.247 || 216.75.82.240/ 29
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.104.196.225 || 216.104.192.0 || 216.104.207.255 || 216.104.192.0/20
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.126.141.38 || 216.126.141.32 || 216.126.141.47 || 216.126.141.32/ 28
|}

===111===

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.126.204.22 || 216.126.192.0 || 216.126.239.255 || 216.126.192.0/19 216.126.224.0/20
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.138.211.80 || 216.138.211.80 || 216.138.211.95 || 216.138.211.80/ 28
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.144.80.70 || 216.144.80.0 || 216.144.95.255 || 216.144.80.0/20
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.148.244.57 || 216.148.0.0 || 216.148.255.255 || 216.148.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.148.244.89 || 216.148.0.0 || 216.148.255.255 || 216.148.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.148.244.90 || 216.148.0.0 || 216.148.255.255 || 216.148.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.148.244.92 || 216.148.0.0 || 216.148.255.255 || 216.148.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.148.246.89 || 216.148.0.0 || 216.148.255.255 || 216.148.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.148.246.90 || 216.148.0.0 || 216.148.255.255 || 216.148.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.148.246.91 || 216.148.0.0 || 216.148.255.255 || 216.148.0.0/16
|}

===112===

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.148.246.92 || 216.148.0.0 || 216.148.255.255 || 216.148.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.148.246.153 || 216.148.0.0 || 216.148.255.255 || 216.148.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.148.246.155 || 216.148.0.0 || 216.148.255.255 || 216.148.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.148.246.156 || 216.148.0.0 || 216.148.255.255 || 216.148.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.152.71.153 || 216.152.64.0 || 216.152.79.255 || 216.152.64.0/20
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.161.59.50 || 216.160.0.0 || 216.161.255.255 || 216.160.0.0/15
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.162.172.138 || 216.162.160.0 || 216.162.191.255 || 216.162.160.0/19
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.167.144.187 || 216.167.144.0 || 216.167.145.255 || 216.167.144.0/ 23
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.184.102.126 || 216.184.96.0 || 216.184.103.255 || 216.184.96.0/ 21
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.201.192.30 || 216.201.192.24 || 216.201.192.31 || 216.201.192.24/ 29
|}

===113===

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.223.54.225 || 216.223.0.0 || 216.223.63.255 || 216.223.0.0/18
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.230.138.2 || 216.230.128.0 || 216.230.159.255 || 216.230.128.0/19
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.249.32.17 || 216.249.32.0 || 216.249.47.255 || 216.249.32.0/20
|-
| http://whois.sc/216.254.74.37 || 216.254.74.1 || 216.254.74.255 || 216.254.74.1/ 32 216.254.74.2/ 31 216.254.74.4/ 30 216.254.74.8/ 29 216.254.74.16/ 28 216.254.74.32/ 27 216.254.74.64/ 26 216.254.74.128/ 25
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.15.45.79 || 217.15.44.0 || 217.15.47.255 || 217.15.44.0/ 22
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.20.117.91 || 217.20.117.0 || 217.20.117.255 || 217.20.117.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.20.118.52 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.36.192.139 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.40.108.217 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.40.125.33 || || ||
|}

===114===
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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.40.132.210 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.40.200.253 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.68.77.36 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.74.164.69 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.79.181.118 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.91.107.63 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.97.134.186 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.145.1.253 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.156.48.54 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.157.141.149 || || ||
|}

===115===

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.159.153.90 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.160.72.189 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.160.132.150 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.160.170.132 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.160.203.84 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.160.222.211 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.172.179.183 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.195.230.154 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.219.1.4 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.219.114.110 || || ||
|}

===116===

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.219.205.131 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/217.219.209.83 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.19.129.10 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.24.4.9 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.25.172.18 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.25.251.168 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.36.220.59 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.40.162.124 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.44.171.106 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.44.248.186 || || ||
|}

===117===

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.57.243.34 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.57.243.35 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.57.243.36 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.57.243.37 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.57.243.50 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.57.243.51 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.57.243.52 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.57.243.53 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.69.88.205 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.94.128.70 || || ||
|}

===118===

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.145.25.47 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.145.25.48 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.145.25.80 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.145.25.115 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.145.145.168 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.188.13.86 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.188.23.86 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.188.23.162 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.189.216.226 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.208.12.68 || || ||
|}

===119===

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.223.33.253 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/218.244.228.66 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/219.93.72.38 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/219.93.174.100 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/219.93.174.105 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/219.93.174.106 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/219.93.174.107 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/219.93.174.108 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/219.93.174.109 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/219.93.174.110 || || ||
|}

===120===
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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/219.93.175.68 || 219.93.175.0 || 219.93.175.255 || 219.93.175.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/219.93.211.74 || 219.93.184.0 || 219.93.250.255 || 219.93.184.0/ 21 219.93.192.0/ 19 219.93.224.0/ 20 219.93.240.0/ 21 219.93.248.0/ 23 219.93.250.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/219.95.111.178 || 219.95.0.0 || 219.95.0.0 || 219.95.0.0/ 17
|-
| http://whois.sc/219.120.28.12 || 219.120.28.8 || 219.120.28.15 || 219.120.28.8/ 29
|-
| http://whois.sc/219.137.226.129 || 219.137.226.128 || 219.137.226.143 || 219.137.226.128/ 28
|-
| http://whois.sc/219.137.226.131 || 219.137.226.128 || 219.137.226.143 || 219.137.226.128/ 28
|-
| http://whois.sc/219.140.57.23 || 219.140.0.0 || 219.140.255.255 || 219.140.0.0/ 16
|-
| http://whois.sc/219.140.161.24 || 219.140.0.0 || 219.140.255.255 || 219.140.0.0/ 16
|-
| http://whois.sc/219.149.52.18 || 219.148.192.0 || 219.149.127.255 || 219.148.192.0/ 18 219.149.0.0/ 17
|-
| http://whois.sc/219.166.113.93 || 219.166.113.88 || 219.166.113.95 || 219.166.113.88/ 29
|}

===121===
{{done}}

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/219.166.122.250 || 219.166.122.248 || 219.166.122.255 || 219.166.122.248/ 29
|-
| http://whois.sc/219.166.154.2 || 219.166.154.0 || 219.166.154.7 || 219.166.154.0/ 29
|-
| http://whois.sc/220.73.165.77 || 220.72.0.0 || 220.87.255.255 || 220.72.0.0/ 13 220.80.0.0/ 13
|-
| http://whois.sc/220.73.165.141 || 220.72.0.0 || 220.87.255.255 || 220.72.0.0/ 13 220.80.0.0/ 13
|-
| http://whois.sc/220.73.165.142 || 220.72.0.0 || 220.87.255.255 || 220.72.0.0/ 13 220.80.0.0/ 13
|-
| http://whois.sc/220.123.66.159 || 220.123.66.128 || 220.123.66.255 || 220.123.66.128/ 25
|-
| http://whois.sc/220.125.192.85 || 220.116.0.0 || 220.127.255.255 || 220.116.0.0/ 14 220.120.0.0/ 13
|-
| http://whois.sc/220.127.193.148 || 220.116.0.0 || 220.127.255.255 || 220.116.0.0/ 14 220.120.0.0/ 13
|-
| http://whois.sc/220.130.138.40 || 220.130.138.0 || 220.130.138.255 || 220.130.138.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/220.135.212.194 || 220.135.0.0 || 220.135.255.255 || 220.135.0.0/ 16
|}

===122===

{{done}}

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/220.171.12.130 || 220.171.0.0 || 220.171.191.255 || 220.171.0.0/16?
|-
| http://whois.sc/220.194.59.59 || 220.192.0.0 || 220.207.255.255 || 220.192.0.0/12
|-
| http://whois.sc/220.245.179.130 || 220.244.0.0 || 220.245.255.255 || 220.244.0.0/15
|-
| http://whois.sc/220.254.20.164 || 220.254.0.0 || 220.254.255.255 || 220.254.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/220.254.43.7 || 220.254.0.0 || 220.254.255.255 || 220.254.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/220.255.11.4 || 220.255.11.0 || 220.255.11.7 || 220.255.11.0/29
|-
| http://whois.sc/221.10.124.34 || 221.10.0.0 || 221.10.255.255 || 221.10.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/221.115.19.164 || 221.112.0.0 || 221.119.255.255 || 221.112.0.0/13
|-
| http://whois.sc/221.123.71.35 || 221.122.0.0 || 221.123.255.255 || 221.122.0.0/15
|-
| http://whois.sc/221.194.75.8 || 221.192.0.0 || 221.195.255.255 || 221.192.0.0/14
|}

===123===

{{done}}

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/221.212.177.97 || 221.208.0.0 || 221.212.255.255 || 221.208.0.0/ 14 221.212.0.0/ 16
|-
| http://whois.sc/221.232.246.203 || 221.232.0.0 || 221.235.255.255 || 221.232.0.0/14
|-
| http://whois.sc/222.35.11.126 || 222.32.0.0 || 222.63.255.255 || 222.32.0.0/11
|-
| http://whois.sc/222.43.34.94 || 222.32.0.0 || 222.63.255.255 || 222.32.0.0/11
|-
| http://whois.sc/222.97.39.140 || 222.96.0.0 || 222.122.255.255 || 222.96.0.0/ 12 222.112.0.0/ 13 222.120.0.0/ 15 222.122.0.0/ 16
|-
| http://whois.sc/222.110.106.37 || 222.96.0.0 || 222.122.255.255 || 222.96.0.0/ 12 222.112.0.0/ 13 222.120.0.0/ 15 222.122.0.0/ 16
|-
| http://whois.sc/222.124.19.107 || 222.124.0.0 || 222.124.255.255 || 222.124.0.0/16
|}

HRWiki:ProxyBlocks/3

2005-11-21T01:27:14Z

DMurphy: /* 60 */

__NOTOC__
'''If you followed a link to this page and would like to help, please see [[HRWiki:ProxyBlocks]] for instructions.'''

If you run into trouble, see if your question is answered on the '''[[HRWiki talk:ProxyBlocks|talk page]]'''.

==Example==

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/4.17.141.197 || 4.17.141.0 || 4.17.141.255 || 4.17.141.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/12.25.203.90 || 12.25.200.0 || 12.25.203.255 || 12.25.200.0/ 22
|-
| http://whois.sc/12.33.196.66 || 12.33.196.64 || 12.33.196.95 || 12.33.196.64/ 27
|-
| http://whois.sc/12.47.110.19 || 12.47.110.0 || 12.47.110.127 || 12.47.110.0/ 25
|-
| http://whois.sc/12.47.252.66 || 12.47.252.64 || 12.47.252.127 || 12.47.252.64/ 26
|-
| http://whois.sc/12.47.252.130 || 12.47.252.128 || 12.47.252.191 || 12.47.252.128/ 26
|-
| http://whois.sc/12.47.253.2 || 12.47.253.0 || 12.47.253.63 || 12.47.253.0/ 26
|-
| http://whois.sc/12.109.110.66 || 12.109.110.64 || 12.109.110.95 || 12.109.110.64/ 27
|-
| http://whois.sc/12.154.148.12 || 12.154.148.0 || 12.154.149.255 || 12.154.148.0/ 23
|-
| http://whois.sc/12.167.88.91 || 12.167.88.0 || 12.167.88.255 || 12.167.88.0/ 24
|}

==To do==
===51===
{{done}}

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/164.58.221.229 || 164.58.221.224 || 164.58.221.255 || 164.58.221.224/27
|-
| http://whois.sc/165.21.7.103 || 165.21.0.0 || 165.21.255.255 || 165.21.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/165.154.140.10 || 165.154.0.0 || 165.154.255.255 || 165.154.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/166.102.8.150 || 166.102.8.128 || 166.102.8.191 || 166.102.8.128/26
|-
| http://whois.sc/166.114.54.194 || 166.114.0.0 || 166.114.255.255 || 166.114.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/167.206.174.29 || 167.206.174.16 || 167.206.174.31 || 167.206.174.16/28
|-
| http://whois.sc/168.8.116.250 || 168.8.0.0 || 168.15.255.255 || 168.8.0.0/13
|-
| http://whois.sc/168.37.244.10 || 168.32.0.0 || 168.60.255.255 || 168.32.0.0/12 168.48.0.0/13 168.56.0.0/14 168.60.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/168.150.251.36 || 168.150.0.0 || 168.150.255.255 || 168.150.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/170.224.224.121 || 170.224.0.0 || 170.227.255.255 || 170.224.0.0/14
|}

===52===
{{done}}

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/170.224.224.123 || 170.224.0.0 || 170.227.255.255 || 170.224.0.0/14
|-
| http://whois.sc/170.224.224.124 || 170.224.0.0 || 170.227.255.255 || 170.224.0.0/14
|-
| http://whois.sc/172.191.37.130 || 172.128.0.0 || 172.191.255.255 || 172.128.0.0/10
|-
| http://whois.sc/192.18.208.20 || 192.18.196.0 || 192.18.255.255 || 192.18.196.0/22 192.18.200.0/21 192.18.208.0/20 192.18.224.0/19
|-
| http://whois.sc/192.42.113.248 || 192.42.113.0 || 192.42.132.255 || 192.42.113.0/24 192.42.114.0/23 192.42.116.0/22 192.42.120.0/21 192.42.128.0/22 192.42.132.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/192.96.43.242 || 192.96.0.0 || 192.96.255.255 || 192.96.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/192.115.134.201 || 192.115.128.0 || 192.115.135.255 || 192.115.128.0/21
|-
| http://whois.sc/192.116.77.45 || 192.116.77.0 || 192.116.77.255 || 192.116.77.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/192.121.232.191 || 192.121.0.0 || 192.121.255.255 || 192.121.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/192.138.49.36 || 192.138.24.0 || 192.138.83.255 || 192.138.24.0/21 192.138.32.0/19 192.138.64.0/20 192.138.80.0/22
|}

===53===
{{done}}

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.115.218.40 || 193.115.218.0 || 193.115.218.255 || 193.115.218.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.140.140.76 || 193.140.140.0 || 193.140.140.255 || 193.140.140.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.165.75.143 || 193.165.0.0 || 193.165.127.255 || 193.165.0.0/17
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.170.211.75 || 193.170.208.0 || 193.170.211.255 || 193.170.208.0/22
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.188.105.22 || 193.188.105.0 || 193.188.105.65 || 193.188.105.0/26 193.188.105.64/31
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.192.98.2 || 193.192.98.0 || 193.192.98.255 || 193.192.98.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.201.54.32 || 193.201.52.0 || 193.201.55.255 || 193.201.52.0/22
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.213.31.172 || 193.213.28.0 || 193.213.31.255 || 193.213.28.0/22
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.219.28.149 || 193.219.28.0 || 193.219.28.255 || 193.219.28.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.219.222.71 || 193.219.222.0 || 193.219.222.255 || 193.219.222.0/24
|}

===54===
{{done}}

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.225.206.221 || 193.225.206.32 || 193.225.206.255 || 193.225.206.32/27 193.225.206.64/26 193.225.206.128/25
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.243.228.81 || 193.243.224.0 || 193.243.255.255 || 193.243.224.0/19
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.251.10.33 || 193.251.10.0 || 193.251.10.127 || 193.251.10.0/25
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.255.207.252 || 193.255.200.0 || 193.255.207.255 || 193.255.200.0/21
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.25.9.105 || 194.25.9.0 || 194.25.9.255 || 194.25.9.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.80.193.245 || 194.80.193.0 || 194.80.193.255 || 194.80.193.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.95.224.201 || 194.95.224.0 || 194.95.249.255 || 194.95.224.0/20 194.95.240.0/21 194.95.248.0/23
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.109.206.212 || 194.109.0.0 || 194.109.255.255 || 194.109.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.117.134.72 || 194.117.134.0 || 194.117.134.255 || 194.117.134.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.184.22.211 || 194.184.22.208 || 194.184.22.215 || 194.184.22.208/29
|}

===55===
{{done}}

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.209.129.253 || 194.209.129.224 || 194.209.129.255 || 194.209.129.224/27
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.212.229.228 || 194.212.229.224 || 194.212.229.255 || 194.212.229.224/27
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.214.239.33 || 194.214.238.0 || 194.214.243.255 || 194.214.238.0/23 194.214.240.0/22
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.218.191.73 || 194.218.191.0 || 194.218.191.255 || 194.218.191.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.248.237.18 || 194.248.237.0 || 194.248.237.31 || 194.248.237.0/27
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.254.103.248 || 194.254.102.0 || 194.254.103.255 || 194.254.102.0/23
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.3.97.221 || 195.3.86.72 || 195.3.97.255 || 195.3.86.72/29 195.3.86.80/28 195.3.86.96/27 195.3.86.128/25 195.3.87.0/24 195.3.88.0/21 195.3.96.0/23
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.31.137.141 || 195.31.137.128 || 195.31.137.159 || 195.31.137.128/27
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.37.69.34 || 195.37.69.0 || 195.37.69.255 || 195.37.69.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.37.69.126 || 195.37.69.0 || 195.37.69.255 || 195.37.69.0/24
|}

===56===
{{done}}

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.39.170.102 || 195.39.170.96 || 195.39.170.127 || 195.39.170.96/27
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.69.188.126 || 195.69.188.0 || 195.69.191.255 || 195.69.188.0/22
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.77.234.14 || 195.77.234.0 || 195.77.234.255 || 195.77.234.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.82.6.6 || 195.82.6.0 || 195.82.6.7 || 195.82.6.0/29
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.96.144.45 || 195.96.144.0 || 195.96.144.127 || 195.96.144.0/25
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.97.103.67 || 195.97.100.0 || 195.97.107.255 || 195.97.100.0/22 195.97.104.0/22
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.98.232.13 || 195.98.231.0 || 195.98.232.255 || 195.98.231.0/24 195.98.232.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.116.102.100 || 195.116.102.0 || 195.116.102.255 || 195.116.102.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.132.33.208 || 195.132.33.0 || 195.132.33.255 || 195.132.33.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.137.213.113 || 195.137.212.0 || 195.137.213.255 || 195.137.212.0/23
|}

===57===
{{done}}

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.144.54.3 || 195.144.54.0 || 195.144.54.7 || 195.144.54.0/29
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.169.98.62 || 195.169.98.0 || 195.169.98.255 || 195.169.98.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.169.149.213 || 195.169.149.0 || 195.169.149.255 || 195.169.149.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.175.37.6 || 195.175.37.0 || 195.175.37.127 || 195.175.37.0/25
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.175.37.7 || 195.175.37.0 || 195.175.37.127 || 195.175.37.0/25
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.175.37.8 || 195.175.37.0 || 195.175.37.127 || 195.175.37.0/25
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.175.37.11 || 195.175.37.0 || 195.175.37.127 || 195.175.37.0/25
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.175.37.54 || 195.175.37.0 || 195.175.37.127 || 195.175.37.0/25
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.175.37.70 || 195.175.37.0 || 195.175.37.127 || 195.175.37.0/25
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.175.37.71 || 195.175.37.0 || 195.175.37.127 || 195.175.37.0/25
|}

===58===
{{done}}

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.175.37.72 || 195.175.37.0 || 195.175.37.127 || 195.175.37.0/25
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.195.128.195 || 195.195.128.0 || 195.195.128.255 || 195.195.128.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.212.89.100 || 195.212.89.96 || 195.212.89.127 || 195.212.89.96/27
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.212.89.101 || 195.212.89.96 || 195.212.89.127 || 195.212.89.96/27
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.235.81.93 || 195.235.81.88 || 195.235.81.95 || 195.235.81.88/29
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.241.74.82 || 195.241.72.0 || 195.241.79.255 || 195.241.72.0/21
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.241.74.83 || 195.241.72.0 || 195.241.79.255 || 195.241.72.0/21
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.243.149.2 || 195.243.149.0 || 195.243.149.95 || 195.243.149.0/26 195.243.149.64/27
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.245.109.114 || 195.245.108.0 || 195.245.109.255 || 195.245.108.0/23
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.245.255.11 || 195.245.255.0 || 195.245.255.255 || 195.245.255.0/24
|}

===59===
{{done}}

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/196.1.178.174 || 196.1.176.0 || 196.1.191.255 || 196.1.176.0/20
|-
| http://whois.sc/196.2.64.3 || 196.2.64.0 || 196.2.79.255 || 196.2.64.0/20
|-
| http://whois.sc/196.7.0.160 || 196.7.0.0 || 196.7.255.255 || 196.7.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/196.15.160.15 || 196.15.160.0 || 196.15.160.255 || 196.15.160.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/196.36.80.164 || 196.36.0.0 || 196.39.127.255 || 196.36.0.0/15 196.38.0.0/16 196.39.0.0/17
|-
| http://whois.sc/196.41.161.234 || 196.41.160.0 || 196.41.191.255 || 196.41.160.0/19
|-
| http://whois.sc/196.192.39.14 || 196.192.32.0 || 196.192.47.255 || 196.192.32.0/20
|-
| http://whois.sc/196.200.3.43 || 196.200.3.40 || 196.200.3.47 || 196.200.3.40/29
|-
| http://whois.sc/198.26.123.36 || 198.25.0.0 || 198.26.255.255 || 198.25.0.0/16 198.26.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/198.38.67.2 || 198.38.64.0 || 198.38.71.255 || 198.38.64.0/21
|}

===60===
[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/198.185.163.20 || 198.185.160.0 || 198.185.164.255 || 198.185.160.0/22 198.185.164.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/198.252.201.22 || 198.252.201.0 || 198.252.201.255 || 198.252.201.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/199.71.136.70 || 199.71.136.0 || 199.71.137.255 || 199.71.136.0/23
|-
| http://whois.sc/199.77.129.53 || 199.75.0.0 || 199.78.255.255 || 199.75.0.0/16 199.76.0.0/15 199.78.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/199.203.54.151 || 199.203.54.0 || 199.203.54.255 || 199.203.54.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/199.224.88.254 || 199.224.64.0 || 199.224.127.255 || 199.224.64.0/18
|-
| http://whois.sc/199.227.154.146 || 199.227.154.144 || 199.227.154.151 || 199.227.154.144/29
|-
| http://whois.sc/199.245.188.21 || 199.245.188.0 || 199.245.188.255 || 199.245.188.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/199.247.235.10 || 199.247.128.0 || 199.247.255.255 || 199.247.128.0/17
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.19.167.6 || || ||
|}

===61===

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.21.18.135 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.21.18.149 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.21.132.131 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.21.238.160 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.25.74.58 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.29.167.10 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.31.10.19 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.31.76.219 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.31.79.214 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.35.81.51 || || ||
|}

===62===

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.35.96.37 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.35.96.38 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.36.112.91 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.36.112.92 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.40.151.18 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.40.229.34 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.41.1.211 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.42.8.211 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.42.212.128 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.42.224.91 || || ||
|}

===63===

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.42.225.204 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.43.108.11 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.44.50.20 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.44.148.138 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.44.148.141 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.45.71.52 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.46.194.2 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.55.209.252 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.58.160.149 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.63.80.253 || || ||
|}

===64===

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.63.80.254 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.67.92.59 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.68.117.221 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.68.217.34 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.71.41.34 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.71.61.38 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.74.132.106 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.75.131.58 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.76.36.195 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.79.192.21 || || ||
|}

===65===

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.80.39.186 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.81.94.59 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.87.46.130 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.87.234.122 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.101.115.44 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.103.49.114 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.113.169.154 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.118.121.5 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.118.122.59 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.126.72.36 || || ||
|}

===66===

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.141.76.229 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.143.77.50 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.150.134.79 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.153.59.98 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.161.93.137 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.163.126.186 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.165.58.103 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.166.203.157 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.167.185.3 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.168.1.88 || || ||
|}

===67===

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.168.32.242 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.169.27.37 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.171.34.215 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.171.92.254 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.171.175.135 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.171.228.17 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.175.139.130 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.176.52.16 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.176.224.71 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.180.129.218 || || ||
|}

===68===

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.185.244.97 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.188.219.162 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.189.80.7 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.193.231.54 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.195.65.61 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.195.71.73 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.196.124.71 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.199.148.106 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.201.178.58 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.202.200.150 || || ||
|}

===69===

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.202.228.34 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.204.54.12 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.204.78.18 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.204.85.23 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.204.152.25 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.204.180.34 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.204.195.150 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.205.172.107 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.206.134.252 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.206.164.101 || || ||
|}

===70===

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.206.218.7 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.207.82.69 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.207.89.37 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.210.12.7 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.217.168.114 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.219.184.80 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.219.184.81 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.223.2.242 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.223.238.4 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.223.238.6 || || ||
|}

===71===

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.226.137.10 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.226.137.11 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.226.137.12 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.226.137.13 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.230.139.2 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.241.31.2 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.241.64.9 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.242.249.70 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.249.166.133 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.250.29.61 || || ||
|}

===72===

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.252.2.176 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/201.6.101.49 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/201.6.103.170 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/201.14.126.131 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/201.15.89.238 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/201.17.123.160 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/201.17.141.129 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/201.219.210.163 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/201.224.237.244 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.28.27.3 || 202.28.0.0 || 202.29.255.255 || 202.28.0.0/15
|}

===73===
{{done}}

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.29.34.4 || 202.28.0.0 || 202.29.255.255 || 202.28.0.0/15
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.29.60.207 || 202.28.0.0 || 202.29.255.255 || 202.28.0.0/15
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.29.60.214 || 202.28.0.0 || 202.29.255.255 || 202.28.0.0/15
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.29.60.218 || 202.28.0.0 || 202.29.255.255 || 202.28.0.0/15
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.39.32.50 || 202.39.32.48 || 202.39.32.55 || 202.39.32.48/29
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.46.68.38 || 202.46.68.33 || 202.46.68.46 || 202.46.68.33/32 202.46.68.34/31 202.46.68.36/30 202.46.68.40/30 202.46.68.44/31 202.46.68.46/32
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.51.230.182 || 202.51.224.0 || 202.51.239.255 || 202.51.224.0/20
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.54.51.5 || 202.54.0.0 || 202.54.255.255 || 202.54.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.56.222.122 || 202.56.222.96 || 202.56.222.127 || 202.56.222.96/27
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.56.253.177 || 202.56.253.176 || 202.56.253.191 || 202.56.253.176/28
|}

===74===
{{done}}

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.56.253.183 || 202.56.253.176 || 202.56.253.191 || 202.56.253.176/28
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.56.253.184 || 202.56.253.176 || 202.56.253.191 || 202.56.253.176/28
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.57.70.27 || 202.57.70.24 || 202.57.70.31 || 202.57.70.24/29
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.57.76.190 || 202.57.76.184 || 202.57.76.191 || 202.57.76.184/29
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.57.88.82 || 202.57.88.80 || 202.57.88.87 || 202.57.88.80/29
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.63.119.18 || 202.63.96.0 || 202.63.127.255 || 202.63.96.0/19
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.64.74.219 || 202.64.74.216 || 202.64.74.223 || 202.64.74.216/29
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.69.184.174 || 202.69.160.0 || 202.69.191.255 || 202.69.160.0/19
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.69.200.15 || 202.69.192.0 || 202.69.207.255 || 202.69.192.0/20
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.71.244.18 || 202.71.240.0 || 202.71.255.255 || 202.71.240.0/20
|}

===75===
{{done}}

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.72.207.195 || 202.72.192.0 || 202.72.207.255 || 202.72.192.0/20
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.78.94.101 || 202.78.94.1 || 202.78.94.255 || 202.78.94.1/32 202.78.94.2/31 202.78.94.4/30 202.78.94.8/29 202.78.94.16/28 202.78.94.32/27 202.78.94.64/26 202.78.94.128/25
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.78.224.17 || 202.78.224.0 || 202.78.231.255 || 202.78.224.0/21
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.79.204.98 || 202.79.192.0 || 202.79.223.255 || 202.79.192.0/19
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.83.174.78 || 202.83.160.0 || 202.83.175.255 || 202.83.160.0/20
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.96.5.7 || 202.96.5.0 || 202.96.5.255 || 202.96.5.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.97.142.40 || 202.97.128.0 || 202.97.159.255 || 202.97.128.0/19
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.101.173.71 || 202.101.172.0 || 202.101.173.255 || 202.101.172.0/23
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.120.142.68 || 202.120.128.0 || 202.120.143.255 || 202.120.128.0/20
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.125.129.138 || 202.125.128.0 || 202.125.159.255 || 202.125.128.0/19
|}

HRWiki:ProxyBlocks/3

2005-11-21T01:25:57Z

DMurphy: /* 60 */

__NOTOC__
'''If you followed a link to this page and would like to help, please see [[HRWiki:ProxyBlocks]] for instructions.'''

If you run into trouble, see if your question is answered on the '''[[HRWiki talk:ProxyBlocks|talk page]]'''.

==Example==

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/4.17.141.197 || 4.17.141.0 || 4.17.141.255 || 4.17.141.0/ 24
|-
| http://whois.sc/12.25.203.90 || 12.25.200.0 || 12.25.203.255 || 12.25.200.0/ 22
|-
| http://whois.sc/12.33.196.66 || 12.33.196.64 || 12.33.196.95 || 12.33.196.64/ 27
|-
| http://whois.sc/12.47.110.19 || 12.47.110.0 || 12.47.110.127 || 12.47.110.0/ 25
|-
| http://whois.sc/12.47.252.66 || 12.47.252.64 || 12.47.252.127 || 12.47.252.64/ 26
|-
| http://whois.sc/12.47.252.130 || 12.47.252.128 || 12.47.252.191 || 12.47.252.128/ 26
|-
| http://whois.sc/12.47.253.2 || 12.47.253.0 || 12.47.253.63 || 12.47.253.0/ 26
|-
| http://whois.sc/12.109.110.66 || 12.109.110.64 || 12.109.110.95 || 12.109.110.64/ 27
|-
| http://whois.sc/12.154.148.12 || 12.154.148.0 || 12.154.149.255 || 12.154.148.0/ 23
|-
| http://whois.sc/12.167.88.91 || 12.167.88.0 || 12.167.88.255 || 12.167.88.0/ 24
|}

==To do==
===51===
{{done}}

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/164.58.221.229 || 164.58.221.224 || 164.58.221.255 || 164.58.221.224/27
|-
| http://whois.sc/165.21.7.103 || 165.21.0.0 || 165.21.255.255 || 165.21.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/165.154.140.10 || 165.154.0.0 || 165.154.255.255 || 165.154.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/166.102.8.150 || 166.102.8.128 || 166.102.8.191 || 166.102.8.128/26
|-
| http://whois.sc/166.114.54.194 || 166.114.0.0 || 166.114.255.255 || 166.114.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/167.206.174.29 || 167.206.174.16 || 167.206.174.31 || 167.206.174.16/28
|-
| http://whois.sc/168.8.116.250 || 168.8.0.0 || 168.15.255.255 || 168.8.0.0/13
|-
| http://whois.sc/168.37.244.10 || 168.32.0.0 || 168.60.255.255 || 168.32.0.0/12 168.48.0.0/13 168.56.0.0/14 168.60.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/168.150.251.36 || 168.150.0.0 || 168.150.255.255 || 168.150.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/170.224.224.121 || 170.224.0.0 || 170.227.255.255 || 170.224.0.0/14
|}

===52===
{{done}}

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/170.224.224.123 || 170.224.0.0 || 170.227.255.255 || 170.224.0.0/14
|-
| http://whois.sc/170.224.224.124 || 170.224.0.0 || 170.227.255.255 || 170.224.0.0/14
|-
| http://whois.sc/172.191.37.130 || 172.128.0.0 || 172.191.255.255 || 172.128.0.0/10
|-
| http://whois.sc/192.18.208.20 || 192.18.196.0 || 192.18.255.255 || 192.18.196.0/22 192.18.200.0/21 192.18.208.0/20 192.18.224.0/19
|-
| http://whois.sc/192.42.113.248 || 192.42.113.0 || 192.42.132.255 || 192.42.113.0/24 192.42.114.0/23 192.42.116.0/22 192.42.120.0/21 192.42.128.0/22 192.42.132.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/192.96.43.242 || 192.96.0.0 || 192.96.255.255 || 192.96.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/192.115.134.201 || 192.115.128.0 || 192.115.135.255 || 192.115.128.0/21
|-
| http://whois.sc/192.116.77.45 || 192.116.77.0 || 192.116.77.255 || 192.116.77.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/192.121.232.191 || 192.121.0.0 || 192.121.255.255 || 192.121.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/192.138.49.36 || 192.138.24.0 || 192.138.83.255 || 192.138.24.0/21 192.138.32.0/19 192.138.64.0/20 192.138.80.0/22
|}

===53===
{{done}}

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.115.218.40 || 193.115.218.0 || 193.115.218.255 || 193.115.218.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.140.140.76 || 193.140.140.0 || 193.140.140.255 || 193.140.140.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.165.75.143 || 193.165.0.0 || 193.165.127.255 || 193.165.0.0/17
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.170.211.75 || 193.170.208.0 || 193.170.211.255 || 193.170.208.0/22
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.188.105.22 || 193.188.105.0 || 193.188.105.65 || 193.188.105.0/26 193.188.105.64/31
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.192.98.2 || 193.192.98.0 || 193.192.98.255 || 193.192.98.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.201.54.32 || 193.201.52.0 || 193.201.55.255 || 193.201.52.0/22
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.213.31.172 || 193.213.28.0 || 193.213.31.255 || 193.213.28.0/22
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.219.28.149 || 193.219.28.0 || 193.219.28.255 || 193.219.28.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.219.222.71 || 193.219.222.0 || 193.219.222.255 || 193.219.222.0/24
|}

===54===
{{done}}

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.225.206.221 || 193.225.206.32 || 193.225.206.255 || 193.225.206.32/27 193.225.206.64/26 193.225.206.128/25
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.243.228.81 || 193.243.224.0 || 193.243.255.255 || 193.243.224.0/19
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.251.10.33 || 193.251.10.0 || 193.251.10.127 || 193.251.10.0/25
|-
| http://whois.sc/193.255.207.252 || 193.255.200.0 || 193.255.207.255 || 193.255.200.0/21
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.25.9.105 || 194.25.9.0 || 194.25.9.255 || 194.25.9.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.80.193.245 || 194.80.193.0 || 194.80.193.255 || 194.80.193.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.95.224.201 || 194.95.224.0 || 194.95.249.255 || 194.95.224.0/20 194.95.240.0/21 194.95.248.0/23
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.109.206.212 || 194.109.0.0 || 194.109.255.255 || 194.109.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.117.134.72 || 194.117.134.0 || 194.117.134.255 || 194.117.134.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.184.22.211 || 194.184.22.208 || 194.184.22.215 || 194.184.22.208/29
|}

===55===
{{done}}

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.209.129.253 || 194.209.129.224 || 194.209.129.255 || 194.209.129.224/27
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.212.229.228 || 194.212.229.224 || 194.212.229.255 || 194.212.229.224/27
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.214.239.33 || 194.214.238.0 || 194.214.243.255 || 194.214.238.0/23 194.214.240.0/22
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.218.191.73 || 194.218.191.0 || 194.218.191.255 || 194.218.191.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.248.237.18 || 194.248.237.0 || 194.248.237.31 || 194.248.237.0/27
|-
| http://whois.sc/194.254.103.248 || 194.254.102.0 || 194.254.103.255 || 194.254.102.0/23
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.3.97.221 || 195.3.86.72 || 195.3.97.255 || 195.3.86.72/29 195.3.86.80/28 195.3.86.96/27 195.3.86.128/25 195.3.87.0/24 195.3.88.0/21 195.3.96.0/23
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.31.137.141 || 195.31.137.128 || 195.31.137.159 || 195.31.137.128/27
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.37.69.34 || 195.37.69.0 || 195.37.69.255 || 195.37.69.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.37.69.126 || 195.37.69.0 || 195.37.69.255 || 195.37.69.0/24
|}

===56===
{{done}}

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.39.170.102 || 195.39.170.96 || 195.39.170.127 || 195.39.170.96/27
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.69.188.126 || 195.69.188.0 || 195.69.191.255 || 195.69.188.0/22
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.77.234.14 || 195.77.234.0 || 195.77.234.255 || 195.77.234.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.82.6.6 || 195.82.6.0 || 195.82.6.7 || 195.82.6.0/29
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.96.144.45 || 195.96.144.0 || 195.96.144.127 || 195.96.144.0/25
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.97.103.67 || 195.97.100.0 || 195.97.107.255 || 195.97.100.0/22 195.97.104.0/22
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.98.232.13 || 195.98.231.0 || 195.98.232.255 || 195.98.231.0/24 195.98.232.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.116.102.100 || 195.116.102.0 || 195.116.102.255 || 195.116.102.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.132.33.208 || 195.132.33.0 || 195.132.33.255 || 195.132.33.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.137.213.113 || 195.137.212.0 || 195.137.213.255 || 195.137.212.0/23
|}

===57===
{{done}}

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.144.54.3 || 195.144.54.0 || 195.144.54.7 || 195.144.54.0/29
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.169.98.62 || 195.169.98.0 || 195.169.98.255 || 195.169.98.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.169.149.213 || 195.169.149.0 || 195.169.149.255 || 195.169.149.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.175.37.6 || 195.175.37.0 || 195.175.37.127 || 195.175.37.0/25
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.175.37.7 || 195.175.37.0 || 195.175.37.127 || 195.175.37.0/25
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.175.37.8 || 195.175.37.0 || 195.175.37.127 || 195.175.37.0/25
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.175.37.11 || 195.175.37.0 || 195.175.37.127 || 195.175.37.0/25
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.175.37.54 || 195.175.37.0 || 195.175.37.127 || 195.175.37.0/25
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.175.37.70 || 195.175.37.0 || 195.175.37.127 || 195.175.37.0/25
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.175.37.71 || 195.175.37.0 || 195.175.37.127 || 195.175.37.0/25
|}

===58===
{{done}}

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.175.37.72 || 195.175.37.0 || 195.175.37.127 || 195.175.37.0/25
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.195.128.195 || 195.195.128.0 || 195.195.128.255 || 195.195.128.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.212.89.100 || 195.212.89.96 || 195.212.89.127 || 195.212.89.96/27
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.212.89.101 || 195.212.89.96 || 195.212.89.127 || 195.212.89.96/27
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.235.81.93 || 195.235.81.88 || 195.235.81.95 || 195.235.81.88/29
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.241.74.82 || 195.241.72.0 || 195.241.79.255 || 195.241.72.0/21
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.241.74.83 || 195.241.72.0 || 195.241.79.255 || 195.241.72.0/21
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.243.149.2 || 195.243.149.0 || 195.243.149.95 || 195.243.149.0/26 195.243.149.64/27
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.245.109.114 || 195.245.108.0 || 195.245.109.255 || 195.245.108.0/23
|-
| http://whois.sc/195.245.255.11 || 195.245.255.0 || 195.245.255.255 || 195.245.255.0/24
|}

===59===
{{done}}

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/196.1.178.174 || 196.1.176.0 || 196.1.191.255 || 196.1.176.0/20
|-
| http://whois.sc/196.2.64.3 || 196.2.64.0 || 196.2.79.255 || 196.2.64.0/20
|-
| http://whois.sc/196.7.0.160 || 196.7.0.0 || 196.7.255.255 || 196.7.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/196.15.160.15 || 196.15.160.0 || 196.15.160.255 || 196.15.160.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/196.36.80.164 || 196.36.0.0 || 196.39.127.255 || 196.36.0.0/15 196.38.0.0/16 196.39.0.0/17
|-
| http://whois.sc/196.41.161.234 || 196.41.160.0 || 196.41.191.255 || 196.41.160.0/19
|-
| http://whois.sc/196.192.39.14 || 196.192.32.0 || 196.192.47.255 || 196.192.32.0/20
|-
| http://whois.sc/196.200.3.43 || 196.200.3.40 || 196.200.3.47 || 196.200.3.40/29
|-
| http://whois.sc/198.26.123.36 || 198.25.0.0 || 198.26.255.255 || 198.25.0.0/16 198.26.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/198.38.67.2 || 198.38.64.0 || 198.38.71.255 || 198.38.64.0/21
|}

===60===
{{inprogress}}
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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/198.185.163.20 || 198.185.160.0 || 198.185.164.255 || 198.185.160.0/22 198.185.164.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/198.252.201.22 || 198.252.201.0 || 198.252.201.255 || 198.252.201.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/199.71.136.70 || 199.71.136.0 || 199.71.137.255 || 199.71.136.0/23
|-
| http://whois.sc/199.77.129.53 || 199.75.0.0 || 199.78.255.255 || 199.75.0.0/16 199.76.0.0/15 199.78.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/199.203.54.151 || 199.203.54.0 || 199.203.54.255 || 199.203.54.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/199.224.88.254 || 199.224.64.0 || 199.224.127.255 || 199.224.64.0/18
|-
| http://whois.sc/199.227.154.146 || 199.227.154.144 || 199.227.154.151 || 199.227.154.144/29
|-
| http://whois.sc/199.245.188.21 || 199.245.188.0 || 199.245.188.255 || 199.245.188.0/24
|-
| http://whois.sc/199.247.235.10 || 199.247.128.0 || 199.247.255.255 || 199.247.128.0/17
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.19.167.6 || || ||
|}

===61===

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.21.18.135 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.21.18.149 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.21.132.131 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.21.238.160 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.25.74.58 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.29.167.10 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.31.10.19 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.31.76.219 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.31.79.214 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.35.81.51 || || ||
|}

===62===

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.35.96.37 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.35.96.38 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.36.112.91 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.36.112.92 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.40.151.18 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.40.229.34 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.41.1.211 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.42.8.211 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.42.212.128 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.42.224.91 || || ||
|}

===63===

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.42.225.204 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.43.108.11 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.44.50.20 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.44.148.138 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.44.148.141 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.45.71.52 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.46.194.2 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.55.209.252 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.58.160.149 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.63.80.253 || || ||
|}

===64===

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.63.80.254 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.67.92.59 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.68.117.221 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.68.217.34 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.71.41.34 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.71.61.38 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.74.132.106 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.75.131.58 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.76.36.195 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.79.192.21 || || ||
|}

===65===

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.80.39.186 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.81.94.59 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.87.46.130 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.87.234.122 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.101.115.44 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.103.49.114 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.113.169.154 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.118.121.5 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.118.122.59 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.126.72.36 || || ||
|}

===66===

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.141.76.229 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.143.77.50 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.150.134.79 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.153.59.98 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.161.93.137 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.163.126.186 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.165.58.103 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.166.203.157 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.167.185.3 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.168.1.88 || || ||
|}

===67===

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.168.32.242 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.169.27.37 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.171.34.215 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.171.92.254 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.171.175.135 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.171.228.17 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.175.139.130 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.176.52.16 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.176.224.71 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.180.129.218 || || ||
|}

===68===

[http://www.csc.fi/english/funet/calc/laskin2.html netmask calculator]
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.185.244.97 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.188.219.162 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.189.80.7 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.193.231.54 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.195.65.61 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.195.71.73 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.196.124.71 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.199.148.106 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.201.178.58 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.202.200.150 || || ||
|}

===69===

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.202.228.34 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.204.54.12 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.204.78.18 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.204.85.23 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.204.152.25 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.204.180.34 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.204.195.150 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.205.172.107 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.206.134.252 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.206.164.101 || || ||
|}

===70===

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.206.218.7 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.207.82.69 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.207.89.37 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.210.12.7 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.217.168.114 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.219.184.80 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.219.184.81 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.223.2.242 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.223.238.4 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.223.238.6 || || ||
|}

===71===

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.226.137.10 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.226.137.11 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.226.137.12 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.226.137.13 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.230.139.2 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.241.31.2 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.241.64.9 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.242.249.70 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.249.166.133 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.250.29.61 || || ||
|}

===72===

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/200.252.2.176 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/201.6.101.49 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/201.6.103.170 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/201.14.126.131 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/201.15.89.238 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/201.17.123.160 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/201.17.141.129 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/201.219.210.163 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/201.224.237.244 || || ||
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.28.27.3 || 202.28.0.0 || 202.29.255.255 || 202.28.0.0/15
|}

===73===
{{done}}

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.29.34.4 || 202.28.0.0 || 202.29.255.255 || 202.28.0.0/15
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.29.60.207 || 202.28.0.0 || 202.29.255.255 || 202.28.0.0/15
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.29.60.214 || 202.28.0.0 || 202.29.255.255 || 202.28.0.0/15
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.29.60.218 || 202.28.0.0 || 202.29.255.255 || 202.28.0.0/15
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.39.32.50 || 202.39.32.48 || 202.39.32.55 || 202.39.32.48/29
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.46.68.38 || 202.46.68.33 || 202.46.68.46 || 202.46.68.33/32 202.46.68.34/31 202.46.68.36/30 202.46.68.40/30 202.46.68.44/31 202.46.68.46/32
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.51.230.182 || 202.51.224.0 || 202.51.239.255 || 202.51.224.0/20
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.54.51.5 || 202.54.0.0 || 202.54.255.255 || 202.54.0.0/16
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.56.222.122 || 202.56.222.96 || 202.56.222.127 || 202.56.222.96/27
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.56.253.177 || 202.56.253.176 || 202.56.253.191 || 202.56.253.176/28
|}

===74===
{{done}}

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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! IP address !! Lower limit !! Upper limit !! IP range
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.56.253.183 || 202.56.253.176 || 202.56.253.191 || 202.56.253.176/28
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.56.253.184 || 202.56.253.176 || 202.56.253.191 || 202.56.253.176/28
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.57.70.27 || 202.57.70.24 || 202.57.70.31 || 202.57.70.24/29
|-
| http://whois.sc/202.57.76.190 || 202.57.76.184 || 202.57.76.191 || 202.57.76.184/29
|-
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Talk:Halloween Costumes

2005-10-27T20:57:33Z

DMurphy: /* Izzy */

{{featuredarticle}}
If we are to keep this then the "Halloween Costumes" section on the seperate character pages needs to link to this page. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

:Ah, there it is. I was wondering where in the Wiki the costumes info would be. Still, the pictures and info are nice, so I think just a link to this page would be appropriate. Any objections? Plus, here's my newest idea. What about a seperate column of pictures right beside the other one, (We'll make them all smaller soon, maybe 150px or something) With ACTUAL pictures of the characters they're dressing up as? I think it's a good idea, and would really add to this page, plus fill it up a bit. If there are no objections within about a day or so I'll go ahead and add the space and Picture names for the new column. Thanks for all your guy's help, especially [[User:FireBird|FireBird]] and [[User:The Paper|The Paper]], and the tables should all be roughed out within a day or so. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 15:27, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

::I really don't think we need the pictures of the people they're dressed up as if they have seperate links (i.e. Wikipedia links). But yeah, a link to this page on every characters "Halloween Costumes" section would be nice. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::I've already uploaded the remaining pictures from [[Homestarloween Party]]. I should have checked this talk page first, but now I know at least someone would rather I not upload the remaining ones. I'll hold out until I get a response on whether or not I should continue to upload new images. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 16:38, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

::::Awsome, 150px looks good. Feel free to keep uploading, as long as they're at least that wide, in order to line up all the columns. So nobody likes my comparison pictures idea? Oh well... -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 16:49, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

Okay, I took the liberty of uploading all images for the Fairstival. But since [[User:The Paper|The Master Of Screenshots]] is already pretty much in charge of screens, if any aren't up to code feel free to change them. I'm just trying to be a pic help. er. Helper. You can go ahead and do the 3 Times Funjob, I'm gonna probably start going to the info section now. Unless the screens aren't up soon. Or I finish Paper Mario 2. But go ahead and upload and change, and thanks for your help. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 22:26, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

<strike>Correction. I uploaded them, but they're not on the page? Master, why is this? Is there some kind of time delay or something? Either way, they're there. So... Do whatcha can. Please. Thanks. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 22:36, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
Oh, it was a time delay. All is well. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 22:39, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
Oh wow, lots are off size. No matter, I will re-upload.
I suck at this. [[User:The Paper|Master]], I'm going to bed. Can you fix my column? It's just going from bad to worse. I'm gonna stick to the info section for now... -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 22:52, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)</strike>

Forget all my previous posts. I suppose I'm just too impaitant for time delays. Never mind, all is well. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 09:49, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

:Alright, all the pics are now uploaded, all thats left is the rest of the info on the characters, and the accompanying sources. Then maybe I'll start going through and trying to get a pic on at least one of all the sources. Anyone who wants to can help with that. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 23:31, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

:Added a few sources here and there, along with some text mainly from Wikipedia articles - I'm trying my best to have equal amounts of textual information for the various people, but I'm finding that rather difficult due to lack of content for some people - take Mars Blackman or Flavor Flav, for example. I could trim some text from the current 'explanations' we've gathered thus far, but I feel that would take away from the content somewhat - What does someone else think? --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 10:38, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

::I think the main thing is just getting it all there. Once that's done I'll do some extra research on the little known guys, and crop some of the better known guys. But you have some room as far as the picture sizes go. For instance, 'The Goblin As Strong Bad As The Bee' doesn't have much info, and it also can't fit much before it starts pushing the picture. The text size doesn't have to match up to each one exactly, as long as they match up approx. to their picture counterparts. Sound good? [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 19:12, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)

Is the spoiler warning really needed? Anyone on this site, looking at this page, have likely already seen the toon anyways. I dunno, if everyone feels that it's really needed then leave it, but is there a spoiler warning anywhere else on the whole site, or just here? [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 00:51, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)

Why don't you ask... [[User_talk:Trogga|me]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Kurt Cobain image ==

I added a link to the Rolling Stone cover Cobain was on. I'm not sure if that link will work in an hour; so if it doesn't, here's [http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/6478089/nirvana?pageid=rs.ArtistArticles&pageregion=mainRegion the article] and [http://www.rollingstone.com/photos/gallery/image/_/image/7/imageSize/medium/id/5392234/start/0/range/12/icet?pageid=rs.PhotosGallery&pageregion=mainRegion the cover].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 6 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Size Problems? ==

As it stands, "Halloween Costumes" is the 5th largest page on the site. And as long as we keep adding more about the costumes, it's just going to increase. So what about doing what they did with the DVD when they separated into 3 disks, and separate the main page into a kind of each particular toon Sub-Page system. It would mean basically breaking this page up into I think 5 sub-pages, with a link to each one. This page probably does take a long time to load on many computers, and so this kind of thing might be prudent. The pages would still be size enough, but not "unmanagably large". Especially once the next toon comes out next Oct. Does anyone have any comments on this? If so, should we do this soon, or wait until we have more info on the characters? [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 14:49, 8 Dec 2004 (MST)

:Actually, I think some of the descriptions are a bit too long. I would favor something more like two sentences for each costume, and more only if needed. I really don't feel that something like "Joey Ramone died in his sleep after a five-year battle with prostate cancer... He will be sorely missed." has any place on this page. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 05:47, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

::The opinion at the end, I'd have to agree with you. But the fact about dying of Cancer, that's not much of a stretch. Once it starts talking about kids and dogs, that's too much information. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 02:20, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

:I think splitting the page is the best idea, much like what happened in [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough]]. Although I don't see what's the matter with long descriptions, though. They don't stretch the page at all: Carmen Sandiego is the only costume to have a longer description than pic, and only by a small margin. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 02:39, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

::Oh yea, i just meant a rough outline. They're not bios, just basic information. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:56, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

== Correlations? ==

I think each character usually or sometimes dresses in category. Marzipan is usually a musician. The KOT is usually dressed as a food ad. Strong Mad is usually an athlete. The Cheat dresses as some small guy. Pom Pom usually dresses as something round, like him...etc.

:Well some of them are wroughly right, such as Strong Mad being the Athlete, Coach Z often a rapper, ect. But The Cheat and Pom Pom are kinda obvious... Not really any way to work into the page, unless the characters ALWAYS were in a catagory, which they aren't. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:55, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

== Split it? ==

This page is pretty long as it is and every Halloween will add more pictures to this more then heavy page. Why don't we have every Halloween cartoon a page for itself? Like [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough]]s. [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 05:23, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

:We've been thinking about that. Luckily we have until October to decide. The question is weather to split according to toon, or character. Characters would make it more... Comparable at a glance. Whatever happens though, once it splits I'm definently going to work in the rejected costumes from the [[Museum Sketchbook]] at the same time. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:53, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

::I don't think we need costumes page per a character. We already have them listed on each of the characters page. If we made a page for each toon, we could link them to the costume description from the character's page. [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 11:52, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

== Running Gag? ==

I noticed the category was added and taken away a couple times, so I'll just come clean right now. I was the one that originally added it, but I see now that it isn't. My bad. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:41, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Kool-aid man ==
I found this loop cartoon that looks like the kool-aid man crashing through the wall. [http://albinoblacksheep.com/flash/yeah.php]. Should that be shown?

:Thanks, but a simple article for each works fine. This site is simply to answer questions, not to link to entertaining media clips. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:55, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== The Bumblebee Guy ==
''That he is dressed as "The Bee" is likely a reference to The Simpson's "The Bumblebee Man", used as a generic Spanish-language TV character, because of Strong Bad's Mexican wrestling mask-like head and accent, despite The Goblin As Strong Bad’s claim that he is "the bee... from nature."''

:Umm... no? I highly doubt that's what Strong Bad/The Goblin's costume is referencing. Noticably, he says that he's "the bee... from nature." {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 16:44, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::I'd change it to ''possibly'' a reference. [[TBC]]'s are simpsons fans, so it could be. Or at least inspired. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:15, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::When I see that costume, I'm reminded more of the "bee girl" from the Blind Melon video for "No Rain." --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 01:24, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

== Izzy ==

''is likely the least popular of all Olympic mascots''

I think the Athens 2004 mascots EASILY beat Izzy in this category. I mean, I didn't see a problem with Izzy. Anyone else agree?
[http://www.athens2004.com/en/OlympicMascots The Mascots]
-[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 20:55, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Halloween Costumes

2005-10-27T20:55:52Z

DMurphy: /* Izzy */

{{featuredarticle}}
If we are to keep this then the "Halloween Costumes" section on the seperate character pages needs to link to this page. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

:Ah, there it is. I was wondering where in the Wiki the costumes info would be. Still, the pictures and info are nice, so I think just a link to this page would be appropriate. Any objections? Plus, here's my newest idea. What about a seperate column of pictures right beside the other one, (We'll make them all smaller soon, maybe 150px or something) With ACTUAL pictures of the characters they're dressing up as? I think it's a good idea, and would really add to this page, plus fill it up a bit. If there are no objections within about a day or so I'll go ahead and add the space and Picture names for the new column. Thanks for all your guy's help, especially [[User:FireBird|FireBird]] and [[User:The Paper|The Paper]], and the tables should all be roughed out within a day or so. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 15:27, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

::I really don't think we need the pictures of the people they're dressed up as if they have seperate links (i.e. Wikipedia links). But yeah, a link to this page on every characters "Halloween Costumes" section would be nice. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::I've already uploaded the remaining pictures from [[Homestarloween Party]]. I should have checked this talk page first, but now I know at least someone would rather I not upload the remaining ones. I'll hold out until I get a response on whether or not I should continue to upload new images. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 16:38, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

::::Awsome, 150px looks good. Feel free to keep uploading, as long as they're at least that wide, in order to line up all the columns. So nobody likes my comparison pictures idea? Oh well... -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 16:49, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

Okay, I took the liberty of uploading all images for the Fairstival. But since [[User:The Paper|The Master Of Screenshots]] is already pretty much in charge of screens, if any aren't up to code feel free to change them. I'm just trying to be a pic help. er. Helper. You can go ahead and do the 3 Times Funjob, I'm gonna probably start going to the info section now. Unless the screens aren't up soon. Or I finish Paper Mario 2. But go ahead and upload and change, and thanks for your help. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 22:26, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

<strike>Correction. I uploaded them, but they're not on the page? Master, why is this? Is there some kind of time delay or something? Either way, they're there. So... Do whatcha can. Please. Thanks. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 22:36, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
Oh, it was a time delay. All is well. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 22:39, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
Oh wow, lots are off size. No matter, I will re-upload.
I suck at this. [[User:The Paper|Master]], I'm going to bed. Can you fix my column? It's just going from bad to worse. I'm gonna stick to the info section for now... -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 22:52, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)</strike>

Forget all my previous posts. I suppose I'm just too impaitant for time delays. Never mind, all is well. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 09:49, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

:Alright, all the pics are now uploaded, all thats left is the rest of the info on the characters, and the accompanying sources. Then maybe I'll start going through and trying to get a pic on at least one of all the sources. Anyone who wants to can help with that. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 23:31, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

:Added a few sources here and there, along with some text mainly from Wikipedia articles - I'm trying my best to have equal amounts of textual information for the various people, but I'm finding that rather difficult due to lack of content for some people - take Mars Blackman or Flavor Flav, for example. I could trim some text from the current 'explanations' we've gathered thus far, but I feel that would take away from the content somewhat - What does someone else think? --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 10:38, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

::I think the main thing is just getting it all there. Once that's done I'll do some extra research on the little known guys, and crop some of the better known guys. But you have some room as far as the picture sizes go. For instance, 'The Goblin As Strong Bad As The Bee' doesn't have much info, and it also can't fit much before it starts pushing the picture. The text size doesn't have to match up to each one exactly, as long as they match up approx. to their picture counterparts. Sound good? [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 19:12, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)

Is the spoiler warning really needed? Anyone on this site, looking at this page, have likely already seen the toon anyways. I dunno, if everyone feels that it's really needed then leave it, but is there a spoiler warning anywhere else on the whole site, or just here? [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 00:51, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)

Why don't you ask... [[User_talk:Trogga|me]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Kurt Cobain image ==

I added a link to the Rolling Stone cover Cobain was on. I'm not sure if that link will work in an hour; so if it doesn't, here's [http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/6478089/nirvana?pageid=rs.ArtistArticles&pageregion=mainRegion the article] and [http://www.rollingstone.com/photos/gallery/image/_/image/7/imageSize/medium/id/5392234/start/0/range/12/icet?pageid=rs.PhotosGallery&pageregion=mainRegion the cover].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 6 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Size Problems? ==

As it stands, "Halloween Costumes" is the 5th largest page on the site. And as long as we keep adding more about the costumes, it's just going to increase. So what about doing what they did with the DVD when they separated into 3 disks, and separate the main page into a kind of each particular toon Sub-Page system. It would mean basically breaking this page up into I think 5 sub-pages, with a link to each one. This page probably does take a long time to load on many computers, and so this kind of thing might be prudent. The pages would still be size enough, but not "unmanagably large". Especially once the next toon comes out next Oct. Does anyone have any comments on this? If so, should we do this soon, or wait until we have more info on the characters? [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 14:49, 8 Dec 2004 (MST)

:Actually, I think some of the descriptions are a bit too long. I would favor something more like two sentences for each costume, and more only if needed. I really don't feel that something like "Joey Ramone died in his sleep after a five-year battle with prostate cancer... He will be sorely missed." has any place on this page. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 05:47, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

::The opinion at the end, I'd have to agree with you. But the fact about dying of Cancer, that's not much of a stretch. Once it starts talking about kids and dogs, that's too much information. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 02:20, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

:I think splitting the page is the best idea, much like what happened in [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough]]. Although I don't see what's the matter with long descriptions, though. They don't stretch the page at all: Carmen Sandiego is the only costume to have a longer description than pic, and only by a small margin. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 02:39, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

::Oh yea, i just meant a rough outline. They're not bios, just basic information. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:56, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

== Correlations? ==

I think each character usually or sometimes dresses in category. Marzipan is usually a musician. The KOT is usually dressed as a food ad. Strong Mad is usually an athlete. The Cheat dresses as some small guy. Pom Pom usually dresses as something round, like him...etc.

:Well some of them are wroughly right, such as Strong Mad being the Athlete, Coach Z often a rapper, ect. But The Cheat and Pom Pom are kinda obvious... Not really any way to work into the page, unless the characters ALWAYS were in a catagory, which they aren't. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:55, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

== Split it? ==

This page is pretty long as it is and every Halloween will add more pictures to this more then heavy page. Why don't we have every Halloween cartoon a page for itself? Like [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough]]s. [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 05:23, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

:We've been thinking about that. Luckily we have until October to decide. The question is weather to split according to toon, or character. Characters would make it more... Comparable at a glance. Whatever happens though, once it splits I'm definently going to work in the rejected costumes from the [[Museum Sketchbook]] at the same time. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:53, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

::I don't think we need costumes page per a character. We already have them listed on each of the characters page. If we made a page for each toon, we could link them to the costume description from the character's page. [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 11:52, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

== Running Gag? ==

I noticed the category was added and taken away a couple times, so I'll just come clean right now. I was the one that originally added it, but I see now that it isn't. My bad. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:41, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Kool-aid man ==
I found this loop cartoon that looks like the kool-aid man crashing through the wall. [http://albinoblacksheep.com/flash/yeah.php]. Should that be shown?

:Thanks, but a simple article for each works fine. This site is simply to answer questions, not to link to entertaining media clips. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:55, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== The Bumblebee Guy ==
''That he is dressed as "The Bee" is likely a reference to The Simpson's "The Bumblebee Man", used as a generic Spanish-language TV character, because of Strong Bad's Mexican wrestling mask-like head and accent, despite The Goblin As Strong Bad’s claim that he is "the bee... from nature."''

:Umm... no? I highly doubt that's what Strong Bad/The Goblin's costume is referencing. Noticably, he says that he's "the bee... from nature." {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 16:44, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::I'd change it to ''possibly'' a reference. [[TBC]]'s are simpsons fans, so it could be. Or at least inspired. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:15, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::When I see that costume, I'm reminded more of the "bee girl" from the Blind Melon video for "No Rain." --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 01:24, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

== Izzy ==

''is likely the least popular of all Olympic mascots''

I think the Athens 2004 mascots EASILY beat Izzy in this category. Anyone else agree?
[http://www.athens2004.com/en/OlympicMascots The Mascots]
-[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 20:55, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Halloween Costumes

2005-10-27T20:55:10Z

DMurphy: Izzy

{{featuredarticle}}
If we are to keep this then the "Halloween Costumes" section on the seperate character pages needs to link to this page. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

:Ah, there it is. I was wondering where in the Wiki the costumes info would be. Still, the pictures and info are nice, so I think just a link to this page would be appropriate. Any objections? Plus, here's my newest idea. What about a seperate column of pictures right beside the other one, (We'll make them all smaller soon, maybe 150px or something) With ACTUAL pictures of the characters they're dressing up as? I think it's a good idea, and would really add to this page, plus fill it up a bit. If there are no objections within about a day or so I'll go ahead and add the space and Picture names for the new column. Thanks for all your guy's help, especially [[User:FireBird|FireBird]] and [[User:The Paper|The Paper]], and the tables should all be roughed out within a day or so. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 15:27, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

::I really don't think we need the pictures of the people they're dressed up as if they have seperate links (i.e. Wikipedia links). But yeah, a link to this page on every characters "Halloween Costumes" section would be nice. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
:::I've already uploaded the remaining pictures from [[Homestarloween Party]]. I should have checked this talk page first, but now I know at least someone would rather I not upload the remaining ones. I'll hold out until I get a response on whether or not I should continue to upload new images. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 16:38, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

::::Awsome, 150px looks good. Feel free to keep uploading, as long as they're at least that wide, in order to line up all the columns. So nobody likes my comparison pictures idea? Oh well... -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 16:49, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

Okay, I took the liberty of uploading all images for the Fairstival. But since [[User:The Paper|The Master Of Screenshots]] is already pretty much in charge of screens, if any aren't up to code feel free to change them. I'm just trying to be a pic help. er. Helper. You can go ahead and do the 3 Times Funjob, I'm gonna probably start going to the info section now. Unless the screens aren't up soon. Or I finish Paper Mario 2. But go ahead and upload and change, and thanks for your help. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 22:26, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

<strike>Correction. I uploaded them, but they're not on the page? Master, why is this? Is there some kind of time delay or something? Either way, they're there. So... Do whatcha can. Please. Thanks. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 22:36, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
Oh, it was a time delay. All is well. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 22:39, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
Oh wow, lots are off size. No matter, I will re-upload.
I suck at this. [[User:The Paper|Master]], I'm going to bed. Can you fix my column? It's just going from bad to worse. I'm gonna stick to the info section for now... -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 22:52, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)</strike>

Forget all my previous posts. I suppose I'm just too impaitant for time delays. Never mind, all is well. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 09:49, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

:Alright, all the pics are now uploaded, all thats left is the rest of the info on the characters, and the accompanying sources. Then maybe I'll start going through and trying to get a pic on at least one of all the sources. Anyone who wants to can help with that. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 23:31, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

:Added a few sources here and there, along with some text mainly from Wikipedia articles - I'm trying my best to have equal amounts of textual information for the various people, but I'm finding that rather difficult due to lack of content for some people - take Mars Blackman or Flavor Flav, for example. I could trim some text from the current 'explanations' we've gathered thus far, but I feel that would take away from the content somewhat - What does someone else think? --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 10:38, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

::I think the main thing is just getting it all there. Once that's done I'll do some extra research on the little known guys, and crop some of the better known guys. But you have some room as far as the picture sizes go. For instance, 'The Goblin As Strong Bad As The Bee' doesn't have much info, and it also can't fit much before it starts pushing the picture. The text size doesn't have to match up to each one exactly, as long as they match up approx. to their picture counterparts. Sound good? [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 19:12, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)

Is the spoiler warning really needed? Anyone on this site, looking at this page, have likely already seen the toon anyways. I dunno, if everyone feels that it's really needed then leave it, but is there a spoiler warning anywhere else on the whole site, or just here? [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 00:51, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)

Why don't you ask... [[User_talk:Trogga|me]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Kurt Cobain image ==

I added a link to the Rolling Stone cover Cobain was on. I'm not sure if that link will work in an hour; so if it doesn't, here's [http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/6478089/nirvana?pageid=rs.ArtistArticles&pageregion=mainRegion the article] and [http://www.rollingstone.com/photos/gallery/image/_/image/7/imageSize/medium/id/5392234/start/0/range/12/icet?pageid=rs.PhotosGallery&pageregion=mainRegion the cover].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 6 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Size Problems? ==

As it stands, "Halloween Costumes" is the 5th largest page on the site. And as long as we keep adding more about the costumes, it's just going to increase. So what about doing what they did with the DVD when they separated into 3 disks, and separate the main page into a kind of each particular toon Sub-Page system. It would mean basically breaking this page up into I think 5 sub-pages, with a link to each one. This page probably does take a long time to load on many computers, and so this kind of thing might be prudent. The pages would still be size enough, but not "unmanagably large". Especially once the next toon comes out next Oct. Does anyone have any comments on this? If so, should we do this soon, or wait until we have more info on the characters? [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 14:49, 8 Dec 2004 (MST)

:Actually, I think some of the descriptions are a bit too long. I would favor something more like two sentences for each costume, and more only if needed. I really don't feel that something like "Joey Ramone died in his sleep after a five-year battle with prostate cancer... He will be sorely missed." has any place on this page. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 05:47, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

::The opinion at the end, I'd have to agree with you. But the fact about dying of Cancer, that's not much of a stretch. Once it starts talking about kids and dogs, that's too much information. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 02:20, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

:I think splitting the page is the best idea, much like what happened in [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough]]. Although I don't see what's the matter with long descriptions, though. They don't stretch the page at all: Carmen Sandiego is the only costume to have a longer description than pic, and only by a small margin. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 02:39, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

::Oh yea, i just meant a rough outline. They're not bios, just basic information. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:56, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

== Correlations? ==

I think each character usually or sometimes dresses in category. Marzipan is usually a musician. The KOT is usually dressed as a food ad. Strong Mad is usually an athlete. The Cheat dresses as some small guy. Pom Pom usually dresses as something round, like him...etc.

:Well some of them are wroughly right, such as Strong Mad being the Athlete, Coach Z often a rapper, ect. But The Cheat and Pom Pom are kinda obvious... Not really any way to work into the page, unless the characters ALWAYS were in a catagory, which they aren't. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:55, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

== Split it? ==

This page is pretty long as it is and every Halloween will add more pictures to this more then heavy page. Why don't we have every Halloween cartoon a page for itself? Like [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough]]s. [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 05:23, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

:We've been thinking about that. Luckily we have until October to decide. The question is weather to split according to toon, or character. Characters would make it more... Comparable at a glance. Whatever happens though, once it splits I'm definently going to work in the rejected costumes from the [[Museum Sketchbook]] at the same time. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:53, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

::I don't think we need costumes page per a character. We already have them listed on each of the characters page. If we made a page for each toon, we could link them to the costume description from the character's page. [[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] 11:52, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

== Running Gag? ==

I noticed the category was added and taken away a couple times, so I'll just come clean right now. I was the one that originally added it, but I see now that it isn't. My bad. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:41, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Kool-aid man ==
I found this loop cartoon that looks like the kool-aid man crashing through the wall. [http://albinoblacksheep.com/flash/yeah.php]. Should that be shown?

:Thanks, but a simple article for each works fine. This site is simply to answer questions, not to link to entertaining media clips. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:55, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== The Bumblebee Guy ==
''That he is dressed as "The Bee" is likely a reference to The Simpson's "The Bumblebee Man", used as a generic Spanish-language TV character, because of Strong Bad's Mexican wrestling mask-like head and accent, despite The Goblin As Strong Bad’s claim that he is "the bee... from nature."''

:Umm... no? I highly doubt that's what Strong Bad/The Goblin's costume is referencing. Noticably, he says that he's "the bee... from nature." {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 16:44, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::I'd change it to ''possibly'' a reference. [[TBC]]'s are simpsons fans, so it could be. Or at least inspired. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:15, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::When I see that costume, I'm reminded more of the "bee girl" from the Blind Melon video for "No Rain." --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 01:24, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

== Izzy ==

''is likely the least popular of all Olympic mascots''
I think the Athens 2004 mascots EASILY beat Izzy in this category. Anyone else agree?
[http://www.athens2004.com/en/OlympicMascots The Mascots]

mile

2005-10-14T00:44:43Z

DMurphy: Moved incorrectly placed STUFF check box

[[Image:sbemail87.PNG|thumb|Parachutes of the rich and famous]]

'''Strong Bad Email #87'''

Strong Bad doesn't want to do an email this week, so The Cheat makes a [[Powered by The Cheat]] email for us instead. Strong Bad does cartwheels for a mile, and The Cheat is a millionaire!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Strongbadia]], [[The Field]]

'''Computer:''' Compa (cartoon version of the [[Compy 386]])

'''Date:''' October 13, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 2:25

== Transcript ==
''{The computer room is empty. After a second, we see Strong Bad walk on-screen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' And I pretend that it's made of money--

''{stops singing, notices camera}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{addressing viewer}'' Er..Oh! Um... Look, uh, I'm not doin' one this week. Yeah... not doin' one. So... bye!

''{Strong Bad walks out of the room.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing again}'' And I pretend that it's made of money...

''{The Cheat enters and looks at the computer, then looks around for anyone. He then grins at the camera fiendishly.}''

=== Powered by The Cheat ===
''{A new Flash cartoon begins. The cartoon is Powered by The Cheat, as evidenced by the more primitive graphic quality and the substandard, imitated voices.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Eeeeeeeeeemail. Ooh, ah, email, ooh, ah—

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Dear Strong Bad, 
 
Can you run a mile. 
 
-Seb 
The Lodge, MN</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD''' ''{typing}'': You'd better believe it, Seb, I can ride I can do cartwheels for a mile. Ready and one and set and go!

''{Strong Bad cartwheels away from his desk. Cut to a shot of him cartwheeling through the TV room from left to right.}''

'''TV ANNOUNCER:''' TV show featuring The Cheat in a Trans Am.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Here I go.

''{The scene cuts to a lot with a bunch of buses that say Sköl}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Here I go again on my own.

''{Strong Bad uses a ramp to jump over the buses. Bubs appears from behind a fence. He appears to have no lower body}''

'''BUBS:''' Hey Strong Bad, you jumped over some of my buses!

''{"A new record!! 19 buses!!" appears in the air and we hear imitated crowd noises. Cut to Marzipan standing in the field}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Keep it up, Strong Bad. Keep up the pace!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thanks for cheering me on.

''{Scene cuts to a brick wall, standing in the middle of a field}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Half way to go. I have to break through this brick wall!

''{Strong Bad rolls forward and the wall doesn't give him any resistance. The bricks fall down and spell "HI". Cut to Homestar in the field holding a sign that says "I love cooties"}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Kick it out, b-hand.

''{Strong Bad stretches out his leg and trips Homestar. Cut to Strong Bad finishing his mile on an athletic track, with flashbulbs everywhere. It then cuts to Homestar, Marzipan, and Coach Z waiting for Strong Bad. Coach Z is pink}''

'''COACH Z:''' Mr. Strong Bad, you won the mile, how da- what's your secret?

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat.

''{The Cheat parachutes in from the top of the frame, wearing a light blue tuxedo and sunglasses and holding a glass of champagne. Money is stuffed into his tuxedo pocket. He lands on the ground and raises up his glass. A thought bubble appears above Marzipan's head that reads "i ''♥'' that cheat."}''

'''EVERYBODY:''' The Cheat is a millionaire! A parade for The Cheat!

''{A parade goes by, featuring a The Cheat float that says "Dunkin' the Ch8t", a The Cheat hot air balloon, fireworks, and The Poopsmith pushing a broom at the end, then the scene cuts back to Strong Bad's computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD''' ''{typing}'': So yes, Jimmy-Jimmy, there have been parades honoring The Cheat, but don't let that from stopping you from organizing your own. He can be the Grand... Marshall. He's also available for proms and pizza parties.
''{Strong Bad actually types: So yes, Jimmy-Jimmy, there have been p's h-ing the C. B. d. l. t. f. s. y. f. o. y. o. He can be the Grand Marshall. He's a-so available for proms and pizza parties.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So, okay folks, I gotta go to my next show. See you later nice time!

''{At the end, a Cheated-up version of [[The Paper]] comes down with a sound effect that just sounds like some guy going "'''K'''errrriorrrr..."}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Before The Cheat shows up, the diskette says "One on One". Within The Cheat's cartoon but before Strong Bad starts cartwheeling, you can click on it to see that it says "Out of this world". After Strong Bad gets back, you can click on it again to show [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitemare_3D "NITEMARE 3D"].
*At the end of the email, click "proms" to see a polaroid of The Cheat with a sillouhette labelled "Your bod here" and a note scrawled at the bottom: "A Knight to Remember, June 3rd 2004."
**It had been rumored that was "scheduled for further release", meaning they might have made a cartoon about it. Unfortunately, the day passed without any update on H*R.com. Nevertheless, two days following, the Strong Bad Email [[cheatday]] was released.
[[Image:Headless Dancer.PNG|thumb|Headless Dancing]]
*Also at the end, click "pizza parties" to see a logo for "Cheatsa Parties," featuring The Cheat taking a bite out of a large pizza.
*Press 'O' on your keyboard at the end to see a silhouette of Strong Bad doing cartwheels over a bunch of hills with a song playing in the background, which is a takeoff of [[Old Intro 2]].
* If you use a decompiler or install a [http://www.squarefree.com/2004/07/19/flash-seek-bar-bookmarklet Flash Seek Bookmarklet], you can access some broken animation of dancing Homestar at the end after the cartwheeling easter egg.

== Fun Facts ==
{{checkstuffpage}}
===Explanations===
*Strong Bad cartwheeling the mile (as opposed to just running it) was probably done so that The Cheat wouldn't have to animate anything, instead just rotating Strong Bad's standing frame a few hundred times.

===Trivia===
*When The Cheat shows up (after Strong Bad wins the mile) Marzipan has a thought bubble saying "I ♥ ''that'' Cheat." This is one of the few times that The Cheat is not referred to with a "The" preceeding his name, and is interesting because The Cheat himself made this cartoon.
*The buses Strong Bad cartwheeled over each said the dictionary pronunciation of "School". ("sköl" with an umlaut over the "O").
*Strong Bad cartwheels 65 times, 55 without the Easter egg.
*According to the DVD commentary, the email answered here was not received from a fan, but was invented by [[The Brothers Chaps]]. Except for this one, the first 100 emails answered by Strong Bad came from fans.
*This cartoon can be found either on the [[Strong Bad Email]] menu or the [[Powered by The Cheat]] menu.

===Remarks===
*This PBTC cartoon highlights The Cheat's poor animation skills. To wit:
**When Coach Z says "what's your secret?" his head pops off a little bit.
**When you click on the [[Floppy Disk Container|floppy]] when Strong Bad is finishing the cartwheel, it says "Nitemare 3-D" and it's ''behind'' Strong Bad and the computer.
**The way "cheat" is spelled on the "Dunkin' the Ch8t" float would actually be pronounced 'chaitt'.
**Before Strong Bad starts to do cartwheels for a mile, the text typed in his computer stays in position for a couple of frames or so.
**There is no patch on the couch.
**When Strong Bad leaves his desk and starts cartwheeling, his head passes behind the floppy disk on the desk, even though the object is in the background.

===Real-World References===
*When the parade happens and The Poopsmith shows up behind it, it is a subtle reference to a segment of [[Wikipedia:The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show|"Rocky and Bullwinkle"]] called "Peabody's Improbable History", where there were parades honoring [[Wikipedia:Mr. Peabody|Peabody]] with only one janitor cleaning up after it.
*Strong Bad says "Here I go again on my own" before going on the ramp over Bubs' 19 buses. This is the first line of the chorus of "Here I Go Again," an 80's standard by [[Wikipedia:Whitesnake|Whitesnake]].
*The "song" being played during the parade is from [[Wikipedia:Super Mario Bros. 3|Super Mario Bros. 3]] for the [[Wikipedia:Nintendo Entertainment System|NES]], played during the levels on airships.
**Also, after the parade, there are six fireworks in the sky, similar in sound and appearance to the ones that appear after completing a level with a 1, 3, or 6 at the end of your remaining time in the [[Wikipedia:Super Mario Bros.|Super Mario Bros.]] game for the NES.
*The line "TV show featuring The Cheat in a [[Wikipedia:Pontiac Trans Am|Trans Am]]" almost certainly refers to the TV series [[Wikipedia:Knight Rider|"Knight Rider"]].
*When The Cheat parachutes in after Strong Bad has won the mile he is wearing a [[Wikipedia:Gucci|Gucci]] parachute.

===Fast Forward===
*Bubs' line, "Some of my buses", is used again on [[Main Page 22]].

== DVD Version ==
*For whatever reason, there is no option to use the angle button, and therefore the Floppy Disk Easter eggs have been disabled. This is one of the only emails on the set that does not have the angle option available when it should be.
*The hills Easter egg is now accessible like a normal Easter egg.
The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' I like that song, I'd like to hear that whole song.

'''MIKE:''' I wonder what he's pretending is made of money.

'''MATT:''' I know, maybe that's just the chorus, and goes through a bunch of different things.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, like, uh—

'''MATT:''' ''{singing}'' can of beans. Pretend that it's made of money! Unh! A guitar! Unh! Unh! And I pretend that it's made of money!

'''MIKE:''' That's...a good song.

'''MATT:''' That's clearly not how he's singing it, but maybe...

'''MIKE:''' Look, One-On-One. The original One-on-One was, of course, uh, Dr. J and Larry Bird. Good game!

'''MATT:''' Great game! So here's The Cheat, his big de-butt. Well, I guess in [[crazy cartoon]], he does it.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, or something. The Compa!

'''MATT:''' This is one of the only made-up Strong Bad emails, right?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, we made that up. The only one.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. We figured that The Cheat's doing it, so he's not gonna care about that sort of stuff.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

''{pause}''

'''MIKE:''' The vocal work on this, uh, particular episode is fantastic.

'''MATT:''' Oh, really, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' You did a great job on this one, Matt!

'''MATT:''' Oh. I didn't do this one—

'''MIKE:''' Oh, wait, ''I'' did the voices. Okay, listen to my Bubs impression, which is pretty much my Fat Albert Impression. ''{Imitating Powered by The Cheat Bubs}'' Hey, Hey, Rudy!

'''MATT:''' That's a good one. That Marzipan is... horrifying. I like her teeth. ''{Mike Laughs}'' I remember... um...

'''MIKE:''' What's that, Matt?

'''MATT:''' Dan from Carmel, Indiana really loved that one, I remember. I remember in band, we talked to him a lot.

'''MIKE:''' Oh.

'''MATT:''' Uh, B-Hand was a guy that ran with our older brother, Donnie, at track. I remember my Mom always yelling, "Kick it out, B-Hand!"

'''MIKE:''' I like the, uh, the Gucci parachute.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, it's amazing. And he's just got some loose cash.

''{Mike and Matt laugh}''

'''MIKE:''' Dunkin' The Cheat!

'''MATT:''' DunkinTheCh8t is somebody's screename on one of the Homestar Runner forums I saw

'''MIKE:''' Oh, really? This is my favorite part right here. Here it comes... here comes The Poopsmith, cleanin' up! Weet! Weet! Weet! Just like that little guy at the end of Rocky and Bullwinkle. Or that guy in between the commercials of the Carol Burnett Shows. Or the bloopers and outtakes.

''{Mike and Matt start singing a song}''

'''MATT:''' I like that.

'''MIKE:''' He just start using punctuations

'''MATT:''' Abbreviations.

'''MIKE:''' Abbreviations. "Also" is the best because that's actually longer than if he just used an "l".

'''MATT:''' Yeah. That's a reference to

'''MIKE:''' Andy Cooper

'''MATT:''' Guitar lessons with Andy Cooper.

'''MIKE:''' Tap that?

'''MATT:''' Looks good.

'''MIKE:''' Mm-hmm.

'''MATT:''' Tapping on the G-Chord, B-Minor.

====Fun Facts====
*Fat Albert, played by comedian [[Wikipedia:Bill Cosby|Bill Cosby]], was the main character of the cartoon series [[Wikipedia:Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids|Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids]].
*[[Wikipedia:The Carol Burnett Show|The Carol Burnett Show]] was a sketch comedy series in the 1970's.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail87.html|watch "mile"]]
*[[HR:sbemail87.swf|view the Flash file for "mile"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Powered by The Cheat]][[Category:Compy 386 Emails]][[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]

mile

2005-10-13T23:48:07Z

DMurphy: STUFF'd 2 facts - Sebastian Coe as a reference to Seb and The Drinking Bird as a reference to the Dunkin' the Ch8t float.

[[Image:sbemail87.PNG|thumb|Parachutes of the rich and famous]]

'''Strong Bad Email #87'''

Strong Bad doesn't want to do an email this week, so The Cheat makes a [[Powered by The Cheat]] email for us instead. Strong Bad does cartwheels for a mile, and The Cheat is a millionaire!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Strongbadia]], [[The Field]]

'''Computer:''' Compa (cartoon version of the [[Compy 386]])

'''Date:''' October 13, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 2:25

== Transcript ==
''{The computer room is empty. After a second, we see Strong Bad walk on-screen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' And I pretend that it's made of money--

''{stops singing, notices camera}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{addressing viewer}'' Er..Oh! Um... Look, uh, I'm not doin' one this week. Yeah... not doin' one. So... bye!

''{Strong Bad walks out of the room.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing again}'' And I pretend that it's made of money...

''{The Cheat enters and looks at the computer, then looks around for anyone. He then grins at the camera fiendishly.}''

=== Powered by The Cheat ===
''{A new Flash cartoon begins. The cartoon is Powered by The Cheat, as evidenced by the more primitive graphic quality and the substandard, imitated voices.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Eeeeeeeeeemail. Ooh, ah, email, ooh, ah—

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Dear Strong Bad, 
 
Can you run a mile. 
 
-Seb 
The Lodge, MN</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD''' ''{typing}'': You'd better believe it, Seb, I can ride I can do cartwheels for a mile. Ready and one and set and go!

''{Strong Bad cartwheels away from his desk. Cut to a shot of him cartwheeling through the TV room from left to right.}''

'''TV ANNOUNCER:''' TV show featuring The Cheat in a Trans Am.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Here I go.

''{The scene cuts to a lot with a bunch of buses that say Sköl}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Here I go again on my own.

''{Strong Bad uses a ramp to jump over the buses. Bubs appears from behind a fence. He appears to have no lower body}''

'''BUBS:''' Hey Strong Bad, you jumped over some of my buses!

''{"A new record!! 19 buses!!" appears in the air and we hear imitated crowd noises. Cut to Marzipan standing in the field}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Keep it up, Strong Bad. Keep up the pace!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thanks for cheering me on.

''{Scene cuts to a brick wall, standing in the middle of a field}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Half way to go. I have to break through this brick wall!

''{Strong Bad rolls forward and the wall doesn't give him any resistance. The bricks fall down and spell "HI". Cut to Homestar in the field holding a sign that says "I love cooties"}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Kick it out, b-hand.

''{Strong Bad stretches out his leg and trips Homestar. Cut to Strong Bad finishing his mile on an athletic track, with flashbulbs everywhere. It then cuts to Homestar, Marzipan, and Coach Z waiting for Strong Bad. Coach Z is pink}''

'''COACH Z:''' Mr. Strong Bad, you won the mile, how da- what's your secret?

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat.

''{The Cheat parachutes in from the top of the frame, wearing a light blue tuxedo and sunglasses and holding a glass of champagne. Money is stuffed into his tuxedo pocket. He lands on the ground and raises up his glass. A thought bubble appears above Marzipan's head that reads "i ''♥'' that cheat."}''

'''EVERYBODY:''' The Cheat is a millionaire! A parade for The Cheat!

''{A parade goes by, featuring a The Cheat float that says "Dunkin' the Ch8t", a The Cheat hot air balloon, fireworks, and The Poopsmith pushing a broom at the end, then the scene cuts back to Strong Bad's computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD''' ''{typing}'': So yes, Jimmy-Jimmy, there have been parades honoring The Cheat, but don't let that from stopping you from organizing your own. He can be the Grand... Marshall. He's also available for proms and pizza parties.
''{Strong Bad actually types: So yes, Jimmy-Jimmy, there have been p's h-ing the C. B. d. l. t. f. s. y. f. o. y. o. He can be the Grand Marshall. He's a-so available for proms and pizza parties.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So, okay folks, I gotta go to my next show. See you later nice time!

''{At the end, a Cheated-up version of [[The Paper]] comes down with a sound effect that just sounds like some guy going "'''K'''errrriorrrr..."}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Before The Cheat shows up, the diskette says "One on One". Within The Cheat's cartoon but before Strong Bad starts cartwheeling, you can click on it to see that it says "Out of this world". After Strong Bad gets back, you can click on it again to show [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitemare_3D "NITEMARE 3D"].
*At the end of the email, click "proms" to see a polaroid of The Cheat with a sillouhette labelled "Your bod here" and a note scrawled at the bottom: "A Knight to Remember, June 3rd 2004."
**It had been rumored that was "scheduled for further release", meaning they might have made a cartoon about it. Unfortunately, the day passed without any update on H*R.com. Nevertheless, two days following, the Strong Bad Email [[cheatday]] was released.
[[Image:Headless Dancer.PNG|thumb|Headless Dancing]]
*Also at the end, click "pizza parties" to see a logo for "Cheatsa Parties," featuring The Cheat taking a bite out of a large pizza.
*Press 'O' on your keyboard at the end to see a silhouette of Strong Bad doing cartwheels over a bunch of hills with a song playing in the background, which is a takeoff of [[Old Intro 2]].
* If you use a decompiler or install a [http://www.squarefree.com/2004/07/19/flash-seek-bar-bookmarklet Flash Seek Bookmarklet], you can access some broken animation of dancing Homestar at the end after the cartwheeling easter egg.

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*Strong Bad cartwheeling the mile (as opposed to just running it) was probably done so that The Cheat wouldn't have to animate anything, instead just rotating Strong Bad's standing frame a few hundred times.

===Trivia===
*When The Cheat shows up (after Strong Bad wins the mile) Marzipan has a thought bubble saying "I ♥ ''that'' Cheat." This is one of the few times that The Cheat is not referred to with a "The" preceeding his name, and is interesting because The Cheat himself made this cartoon.
*The buses Strong Bad cartwheeled over each said the dictionary pronunciation of "School". ("sköl" with an umlaut over the "O").
*Strong Bad cartwheels 65 times, 55 without the Easter egg.
*According to the DVD commentary, the email answered here was not received from a fan, but was invented by [[The Brothers Chaps]]. Except for this one, the first 100 emails answered by Strong Bad came from fans.
*This cartoon can be found either on the [[Strong Bad Email]] menu or the [[Powered by The Cheat]] menu.

===Remarks===
*This PBTC cartoon highlights The Cheat's poor animation skills. To wit:
**When Coach Z says "what's your secret?" his head pops off a little bit.
**When you click on the [[Floppy Disk Container|floppy]] when Strong Bad is finishing the cartwheel, it says "Nitemare 3-D" and it's ''behind'' Strong Bad and the computer.
**The way "cheat" is spelled on the "Dunkin' the Ch8t" float would actually be pronounced 'chaitt'.
**Before Strong Bad starts to do cartwheels for a mile, the text typed in his computer stays in position for a couple of frames or so.
**There is no patch on the couch.
**When Strong Bad leaves his desk and starts cartwheeling, his head passes behind the floppy disk on the desk, even though the object is in the background.

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===Real-World References===
*When the parade happens and The Poopsmith shows up behind it, it is a subtle reference to a segment of [[Wikipedia:The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show|"Rocky and Bullwinkle"]] called "Peabody's Improbable History", where there were parades honoring [[Wikipedia:Mr. Peabody|Peabody]] with only one janitor cleaning up after it.
*Strong Bad says "Here I go again on my own" before going on the ramp over Bubs' 19 buses. This is the first line of the chorus of "Here I Go Again," an 80's standard by [[Wikipedia:Whitesnake|Whitesnake]].
*The "song" being played during the parade is from [[Wikipedia:Super Mario Bros. 3|Super Mario Bros. 3]] for the [[Wikipedia:Nintendo Entertainment System|NES]], played during the levels on airships.
**Also, after the parade, there are six fireworks in the sky, similar in sound and appearance to the ones that appear after completing a level with a 1, 3, or 6 at the end of your remaining time in the [[Wikipedia:Super Mario Bros.|Super Mario Bros.]] game for the NES.
*The line "TV show featuring The Cheat in a [[Wikipedia:Pontiac Trans Am|Trans Am]]" almost certainly refers to the TV series [[Wikipedia:Knight Rider|"Knight Rider"]].
*When The Cheat parachutes in after Strong Bad has won the mile he is wearing a [[Wikipedia:Gucci|Gucci]] parachute.

===Fast Forward===
*Bubs' line, "Some of my buses", is used again on [[Main Page 22]].

== DVD Version ==
*For whatever reason, there is no option to use the angle button, and therefore the Floppy Disk Easter eggs have been disabled. This is one of the only emails on the set that does not have the angle option available when it should be.
*The hills Easter egg is now accessible like a normal Easter egg.
The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' I like that song, I'd like to hear that whole song.

'''MIKE:''' I wonder what he's pretending is made of money.

'''MATT:''' I know, maybe that's just the chorus, and goes through a bunch of different things.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, like, uh—

'''MATT:''' ''{singing}'' can of beans. Pretend that it's made of money! Unh! A guitar! Unh! Unh! And I pretend that it's made of money!

'''MIKE:''' That's...a good song.

'''MATT:''' That's clearly not how he's singing it, but maybe...

'''MIKE:''' Look, One-On-One. The original One-on-One was, of course, uh, Dr. J and Larry Bird. Good game!

'''MATT:''' Great game! So here's The Cheat, his big de-butt. Well, I guess in [[crazy cartoon]], he does it.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, or something. The Compa!

'''MATT:''' This is one of the only made-up Strong Bad emails, right?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, we made that up. The only one.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. We figured that The Cheat's doing it, so he's not gonna care about that sort of stuff.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

''{pause}''

'''MIKE:''' The vocal work on this, uh, particular episode is fantastic.

'''MATT:''' Oh, really, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' You did a great job on this one, Matt!

'''MATT:''' Oh. I didn't do this one—

'''MIKE:''' Oh, wait, ''I'' did the voices. Okay, listen to my Bubs impression, which is pretty much my Fat Albert Impression. ''{Imitating Powered by The Cheat Bubs}'' Hey, Hey, Rudy!

'''MATT:''' That's a good one. That Marzipan is... horrifying. I like her teeth. ''{Mike Laughs}'' I remember... um...

'''MIKE:''' What's that, Matt?

'''MATT:''' Dan from Carmel, Indiana really loved that one, I remember. I remember in band, we talked to him a lot.

'''MIKE:''' Oh.

'''MATT:''' Uh, B-Hand was a guy that ran with our older brother, Donnie, at track. I remember my Mom always yelling, "Kick it out, B-Hand!"

'''MIKE:''' I like the, uh, the Gucci parachute.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, it's amazing. And he's just got some loose cash.

''{Mike and Matt laugh}''

'''MIKE:''' Dunkin' The Cheat!

'''MATT:''' DunkinTheCh8t is somebody's screename on one of the Homestar Runner forums I saw

'''MIKE:''' Oh, really? This is my favorite part right here. Here it comes... here comes The Poopsmith, cleanin' up! Weet! Weet! Weet! Just like that little guy at the end of Rocky and Bullwinkle. Or that guy in between the commercials of the Carol Burnett Shows. Or the bloopers and outtakes.

''{Mike and Matt start singing a song}''

'''MATT:''' I like that.

'''MIKE:''' He just start using punctuations

'''MATT:''' Abbreviations.

'''MIKE:''' Abbreviations. "Also" is the best because that's actually longer than if he just used an "l".

'''MATT:''' Yeah. That's a reference to

'''MIKE:''' Andy Cooper

'''MATT:''' Guitar lessons with Andy Cooper.

'''MIKE:''' Tap that?

'''MATT:''' Looks good.

'''MIKE:''' Mm-hmm.

'''MATT:''' Tapping on the G-Chord, B-Minor.

====Fun Facts====
*Fat Albert, played by comedian [[Wikipedia:Bill Cosby|Bill Cosby]], was the main character of the cartoon series [[Wikipedia:Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids|Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids]].
*[[Wikipedia:The Carol Burnett Show|The Carol Burnett Show]] was a sketch comedy series in the 1970's.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail87.html|watch "mile"]]
*[[HR:sbemail87.swf|view the Flash file for "mile"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
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Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 10

2005-10-13T22:59:24Z

DMurphy: /* Vowels */

==TGS Issue Picture==
Which picture should we use? [[Image:Mightywarrior.PNG|thumb|"Mightywarrior.PNG"]][[Image:TeenGirlSquad10.PNG|thumb|"TeenGirlSquad10.PNG"]]

Number one (the warrior) id say. its somthing difffernt
:The lower one definitely. It shows the theme of the episode better. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:47, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Stan! ==

In the hidden easter egg where The ugly one's dad is advertising, the way he is waving his arms around is a striking resemblence to Stan from the Monkey Island Games. Would this be a fun fact?

Easter Egg? If this exists why isn't it listed? --[[User:Mrdude|jake]] 15:37, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== New Software ==

I think the reason for the new animation is TBC got some new animation software and they wanted to test it out. [[User:DaChazman|DaChazman]]

It's all done with Flash. If it were done with Flash 8 (the new one) we'd know. [[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 16:25, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:Besides, with simple characters like that, you can do that with a few masks and shape tweens. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 21:13, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

I know there's some software that can export 3D animation to flash. It's called [http://www.erain.com Swift 3D]. However, I dont know if TBC are using it. -[[User:Jesselangham|Jesselangham]]

:They're not. There's nothing fancy with the rotation that they haven't done before, eg in [[funny]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 23:51, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, good point. That software is expensive anyway. Too expensive for a 1 second rotation. -[[User:Jesselangham|Jesselangham]]

== 3-D? I don't even know what that is! ==

I move that all instances of the word 3-D be replaced with the word 3D. Who's with me, eh? [[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 16:25, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:Can somebody who knows something about 3D software confirm that the "We got a spinner" gag is a reference to the bizarre glitches that such software sometimes create (elements moving by themselves in weird ways)? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:14, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:I found it to be a reference to CGI animation glitches like the ones shown under special features of Pixar movies.---[[User:RatherAnnoying|RatherAnnoying]] 19:29, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, that's what I was thinking of; like the monster's hair in Monsters Inc. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:32, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

: You're wrong, BTW. [[Wikipedia:3D|3D]] is an auto-redirect to [[Wikipedia:3-D|3-D]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:50, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

:And m-w.com doesn't recognize [http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=3d&book=Dictionary 3D], only 3-D. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:55, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

==Inside references==
In the party sequence, I know all the TGS inside references are listed in the cast of characters at the beginning, but is there any other appropriate way to mention it elsewhere? Say, an inside reference that simply says "See the Cast of Characters?" Also, can someone confirm my suspicion that this contains ''every'' TGS character seen to date (even a reference to Brett!), and that it's the first TGS to include a shot of the "real world," or of regular H*R characters other than Strong Bad? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:34, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:I'm not sure about your first question, but I can answer your second and third ones:
*2: No, it does not contain every TGS character to date. For example, the Floor Tom and the Vulture/Bat don't appear. See the Minor TGS Characters page for a bunch of characters that fail to appear.
*3: Yes and no. It is the first episode to show the "real world", but [[Pom Pom]] appears in episode #8.
:Hope that helps. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:45, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::This ''is'', however, the first TGS to show any character--including Strong Bad--outside of the comic's world. Pom Pom in issue 8 was still a drawing, as was Strong Bad's cameo appearances in issues 1, 8, and 9. This is the first time a TGS episode has had not-drawings in it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Actually, Strong Bad Email #53, "comic" also features TGS and "not-drawings" together. Which is the "official" TGS #1, anyway?
:::The Vultures do appear. See the bottom left corner of the scene where Manolios is introducing The Ugly One. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 19:55, 10 October 2005 (BST)
::::Sorry, I meant the Vulture from issue #2. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:58, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Vowels ==
Vowels are A-E-I-O-U "Y" is not a vowel :p
:Sometimes it is. It's being used as a vowel in this case. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::From the Wikipedia: "In the standard English language, the letter [[Wikipedia:Y|Y]] is traditionally regarded as a consonant, but as a survey of almost any English text, including this one, will show, Y more commonly functions as a vowel." So our anonymous friend is right. Y is not a vowel. And sign your posts.{{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:37, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::Also from Wikipedia: The name "vowel" is often used for the symbols used for representing vowel sounds in a language's writing system, particularly if the language uses an alphabet. In the Latin alphabet, the vowel letters are usually A, E, I, O, U, and in some languages Y, as in English. -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft.holmes]] 19:50, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Oh yeah, because an entirely user-edited encyclopaedia can NEVER contradict itself. Why don't we go with the majority and accept that Y is NOT a vowel?
::::[http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/RefEdList.aspx?refid=210026329 Encarta] seems to agree as well. After all, the way most schools teach vowels is A-E-I-O-U and SOMETIMES Y. In "sorry," Y is a vowel, as it is nearly impossible to construct a meaningful syllable without a vowel. Does "syzygy" also have no vowels in it? No. ... Okay, I rambled. Sorry. But Y is a vowel in this case. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:::: Because it is. The word "vowel" denotes how the letter is used, not what the letter is. As it happens, Y isn't the only "consonant" that can be used as a vowel (W is common, and G and H show up often too.) It's just that the five letters most commonly called "vowels" are the ones NEVER used as consonants. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:39, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

"Vowel" and "consonant" are phonetic distinctions, not letter distinctions. "We're sorry" is pronounced ([[Wikipedia:IPA chart for English|IPA]]) /wi:r sɒˈri:/ - both /i/s and the /ɒ/ are the vowels. It is simply that the large majority of vowel sounds are represented in English with A-E-I-O-U which is why they're called the 5 vowels. So we then have 2 definitions of "vowel" - a vowel ''phoneme'' (which is relevant for the "there's at least one vowel in every syllable" rule) or a vowel ''letter'' (strictly A-E-I-O-U, possibly Y depending on who you ask). The confusion only comes when you get the two confused - for example a syllable does not require A-E-I-O-U(-Y), just a vowel phoneme. Getting back to the point, it's impossible to pronounce words completely without vowel phonemes, /ə/ slips in everywhere (/wər sər/ is as far as you can take "we're sorry"). "Removing all the vowels" only makes sense from a vowel letter view, in which case Y only applies if whoever it is wants it to. And now I'm rambling a bit, so I'll stop. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:13, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

You know... even after all this controversy, it doesn't make a good Fun Fact, since she never mentions taking ALL the vowels out. She says "taking ''the'' vowels out," which, yes, implies ''all'' the vowels, but doesn't say it emphatically. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:33, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I'm confused. Have we reached a conensus yet? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 11:57, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

This is a horrible fun fact. Regardless of whether or not Y is a vowel... the scene is meant to be a pun on internet slang (in AIM saying sry instead of sorry). If they said "'m Srr" it wouldn't be nearly as catchy or funny. I fail to see how this is of interest to anyone. -[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:30, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

The slang term for sorry on the internet IS NOT srr it's Srry. As DMurphy said, it's not about the vowels. I say get rid of the thing.

This fun fact has been STUFF'd. [[Template:STUFF/Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|The TGS10 STUFF Page]] -[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 22:59, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

==The other side of the paper==
When the paper saying "Its over" in on screen, you can see the other side of the paper, which is the image of Strong Bad making out with the Ugly One. I dont know if you can see it on a regular screen, but I can only see it on my Laptop, if I makes the screen darker. - Lord-Z
: I see it too. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:Yes, and this has already been noted in the transcript. It's been covered just for you ;){{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 21:11, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== References ==
When the Ugly One's father presents her to the party, I am pretty sure that that is a reference to the MTV show, My Super Sweet Sixteen. Am I correct? --[[User:ItalianBallerina|ItalianBallerina]]

No, this is just a common practice at sweet sixteens. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 20:50, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Breakin? ==
When Strong Bad says "Arrow'd II: Electric- wait a minute!", it seems to be a reference to "Breakin II: Electric Boogaloo", a movie which has been mentioned on the site before. [[User:TheSyndicate88|TheSyndicate88]]
:Check the fun facts, dude. It's already in there. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== Olympic Coach's Voice? ==

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Olympic coach is the only TGS character not voiced by Strong Bad. If so, do you think that's a worthy fun fact? [[User:SA2Tails|SA2Tails]] 21:53, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:What about Mr. Pitters?

:Also the vultures as they are eating Mr. Pitters do not have a Strong Bad-type voice. Maybe Fatty's Big Chance as well. The voice is grainy and rough, but not as much as the other characters. --[[User:Gillan The Villain|Gillan The Villain]] 22:19, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

==Has 3D Been Used Before?==
I think 3D was used before. On [[The Luau]], the tofu seems to be spinning in 3D. -[[User:Lotionman|Lotionman]] 23:34, 10 October 2005 (UTC)Lotionman
:I think what has everybody so excited is that in this one the ''camera'' moved in 3D. Though I'm not sure it took anything more than plain ol' Flash to do that. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:Don't forget the opening to [[The Interview]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:21, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:True, but the animation here seems a lot smoother than that, with the spinning camera sequence, What's-her-face spinning and Strong Bad's movements at the end of the toon.
::Only because the framerate is higher. Flash's default framerate is 12fps - which is about the lower limit for most people being able to distinguish animations from a series of pictures. TGS10 is 20fps - so a lot of the animations are smoother. I've looked with the decompiler - just trust me when I say that What's Her Face spinning is done exactly the same way that they do Strong Bad's head turning to look from side to side. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:29, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

== Pictures from the Party ==

I made an image of the pan across the party, showing the minor characters appearing in attendance. It'd make a nice picture for somewhere, I think. (I had the idea of making it just a link, not an actual picture, and putting it in the issue 10 article somewhere. [[Duck Guardian One]] has an example of this in the Trivia section.) One thing though: the picture is roughly four or five times bigger in file size than what's normally recommended to upload. So I thought I'd tell people before acting, just in case. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Pwn ==
Is pwn a reference to [http://www.purepwnage.com/ Pure Pwnage]? Because thats basically the only other place I've heard it. - [[User:Faro1|Faro1]]
:It's vice versa - Pure Pwnage is a referance to the word pwn. Look at the [[Wikipedia:Pwn|wikipedia link]] from the article. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:31, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm glad they made fun of that term. Can't we just correct the typo and call it "ownage?" -[[User:Jesselangham|Jesselangham]]

== Goof or Remark ==
[[Image:Babydaddy.PNG|100px|thumb]]
<div style="border:1px #CCC solid;padding:3px;background:#fafafa;">''In the rotational scene, Cheerleader's ''baby daddy'' seems to come out of her dress.''</div>

:I think this inconsistancy was a mistake made by the Brothers Chaps, therefore a goof. However, It's dot com insists otherwise, rendering it a Remark. What is it? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:05, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Remark.'''</s> I'm not saying they did it ''on purpose'' per se. I ''am'' saying that because this sequence is the first of its kind on the site, they would have paid it extra special attention. Therefore, TBC would have realized the type is doing what it does. Maybe they actually did do it intentionally. Maybe they saw how it turned out and liked what they got. Or maybe there was some technical limitation that made it like it is. It doesn't really matter, because the point is that they didn't ''mistakingly'' do it the way they did. I mean, let's give them a ''little'' credit. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:13, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft.holmes]] 21:06, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I don't know how this could happen to make it a goof. There's no way they would have programmed the words to ''not'' be on the shirt and not have noticed. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 22:11, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Goof.''' Now I don't know for sure if it'd be easy to fix or not, but it seems to me they could have just omitted the "ba" and "da" to get a favorable result. If they noticed it, they probably figured it was just one frame and not worth fixing. But that doesn't change the fact that it is still a goof - missed or seen and ignored. This seems to be just as much of a goof as all the other ones written down there. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}</s>
*'''Goof.''' When I posted it, I put it on goofs. I'm with Joshua on this one. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:33, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Goof.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:34, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Goof.''' Paying attention or not, the writing is off the shirt. That says ''goof'' to me. We don't know their intentions. -[[User:B|B]] 21:16, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
**The fact that we don't know their intentions is a prime reason for it to be a remark. I'd rather err on the side of TBC here. Calling it a remark when it was a goof doesn't make it less true, and leaves it open to interpretation. Calling it a goof when it really wasn't stigmatizes it unnecessarily. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
*Just because they don't bother to fix it doesn't mean it's not a goof. If we followed your standards, then we'd have to move a lot, maybe almost all, of the goofs to remarks. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:44, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
**Not at all. I'm trying to emphasize that they would not have been careless here, since the effect is new and unique. I believe they have both of these things here exactly how they want them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
* <s>'''Remark.''' After going through it frame by frame, I discovered that Cheerleader's text is floating off the ENTIRE thing, all three times, rather than the single frame that I thought before. So now I think TBC did it to make the overall thing look better when moving quickly, to make the 3D stand out more. But it still deserves mention. And a better picture. (It's hard to see what's what in the currect pic.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:17, 11 October 2005 (UTC)</s>
* [[Image:sbfacemask.png|thumb|right|Strong Bad's head, with and without masking]] '''Glitch''' - some explination of how TBC make things rotate is in order. Making a realistic rotation would be very time consuming, and you'd need to draw almost every frame to get it to look smooth. However, TBC take a shortcut - almost everything they make that rotates is just a plain sphere with a thing added on it, eg Strong Bad's face or his shoelace thingy - apart from that his head is perfectly round - so when they rotate his head left and right only the face and shoelace have to move, the actual head can stay still. Now for the second shortcut - when his face moves around his head, they don't actually do anything fancy to make it go "around" - they just move it straight from left to right, no distortion, no parallax, nothing. Then they take a mask the shape of SB's head and use it to crop the face to the head. The result - it looks like the face is going around the head. Look at the picture on the right if you're not sure what I mean. If the effect isn't strong enough they add things like skews to make it more real, but for the most part they don't need to. Now we come to Cheerleader's shirt. They did the same thing they always do. They animated everyone's faces and the writing on Cheerleader's dress as moving across them from side to side. Then they added a mask to their faces, but forgot to add a mask to Cheerleader's dress. Hence it is a glitch, I see no reason for them to do this intentionally, and a perfectly good reason for them to do it accidentally. As for Goof vs Glitch, I thought Goofs were things like plot holes, mistakes in the design of the toon, and Glitches were mistakes in the actual building of the toon in Flash, like this. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:56, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

:'''Thank you''', Phlip. For one thing, I had been wondering about the seemingly indiscriminate and interchangeable use of "Goof" and "Glitch." Seems to me a lot of Goofs around here need moving... Also, thanks for finally providing some insight on the way the Flash stuff worked. I agree it's a Flash-generated glitch, but for the record I'm not ''necessarily'' saying they didn't notice it and think it was cool. I think it's kinda cool myself. It enhances the 3-D-ness of it all, kind of a ViewMaster moment. :) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:12, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Glitch.''' Shifting my vote again. Phlip's explanation makes a lot of sense. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:07, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Glicth.''' I can go for a glitch here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:22, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

 <div style="border:1px #CCC solid;padding:3px;background:#fafafa;">''When Strong Bad rewinds the 3-D spin around, the "SO GOOD!" speech bubble disappears.''</div>

:Same deal here as above. The bubble was there, then it wasn't. All that happened was a rewind and replay. OOPS. Seems pretty clear, and the note is still there. -[[User:B|B]] 21:16, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Remark.'''</s> I really can't imagine how this could be accidental. I just don't see TBC watching this toon later and slapping their heads: "We forgot to keep the speech bubble there!" — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:36, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know ''I'' wouldn't want to deal with animating a speech bubble if I had a Monday deadline. I don't know how a rotating speech bubble would work realistically, so I think they probably took it out so people wouldn't look at it and say "wow, that just doesn't look good" if they got it wrong. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 22:38, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
***Look closely - they already did a rotating speach bubble the first time they spin around - it's just not there when they spin the second time... <s>So, '''Glitch'''</s>. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:56, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Goof.''' But this differs from the above. Although I doubt TBC did this without noticing, it is an "inconsistancy," which officially makes a [[HRWiki:Standards#Goofs|goof]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} (You know, we really are fighting over nothing. :P)

The wording of the Standard you linked is: "...if things mysteriously vanish or appear (and it's not obviously intentional...)." Personally I have a problem with that wording; I would move it be changed to "obviously ''not'' intentional." Little change, big difference. First of all, let's all notice that they ''did'' animate the rotating speech bubble on the first rotation, okay? Then it disappears because they're done talking. Now if it was in fact an omission, it was a pretty big honkin' one; it's not like the [[A Folky Tale#Goofs|grass around Strong Sad]]; it's a huge... well, thing. My personal opinion is that they left it off the second time because this rotation is essentially a ''visual'' effect, and they didn't want it to get in the way of the effect. If it was in fact an omission, it would have to be a last-minute, bleary-eyed, semi-conscious one (which doesn't fit the quality of the rest of the 'toon). I'm staying non-commital as usual, but I find the arguments for not even mentioning this one pretty strong. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:20, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
: "Not obviously intentional" conveys the meaning I intended when I wrote that better than "Obviously not intentional." For instance, with the "baby daddy" thing, it's not obviously not intentional, but it's not obviously intentional either. (If you can parse that.) However, the disagreement here is on just what IS obvious in this case. This much is obvious: they didn't just reverse and repeat the scene, since the speech bubble is missing. Maybe they just felt like drawing it twice, maybe the second time was an earlier version, or maybe it was intentional. And, at any rate, I'm not willing to call it a "Goof," because it's really not needed (speech bubbles are not physical objects in the real world, so its non-inclusion doesn't really affect what's happening in the scene at all.) So '''remark.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:43, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
::I agree with what Jay is saying and I maintain that it is a remark. On the other hand, it is pretty obvious by just watching the toon, so like AbdiViklas hinted, perhaps '''it should just go unmentioned.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:29, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

The more I think about this the more it seems the must have tried just reversing the whole scene, speech bubble inclusive, and realised it didn't look very good (I mean, the speech bubble disappeared when they finished talking and String Bad started talking, and it would look weird for it to return), so they removed it. So I'm changing my vote to '''either put it in the transcript or leave it out entirely, probably the latter'''. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:22, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

== Making out ==

Is this the first time we've ever seen Strong Bad actually make out with something? I mean, he's always gone on about it. If it really is the first time I think it's worthy of a mention in the article somehow.
:It think this is the first time we've seen him... kissing. I think it's noteworthy. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:23, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
i thought that was discusting....i had too close down the window and turn the
volume all the way down!-[[User:Timmy!]]

its also the first time we have seen strong bad eating a girl, atleast the paper 1 is drawn on, tbc have been getting a LITTLE r rated with that!@!
and actually if you count fan hallloweeen costumes we did see "strong bad" making out with a girl before
:And if we put in that Strong Bad ate a girl, people are going to jump to the wrong idea.

1: He wasn't eating the girl, he was trying to make out with the girl on the piece of paper, not eat her. 2: How is making out "R-rated"? [[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]] 21:07, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

It's certainly not R-rated or 99% of the films ever made would be R-rated! However it certainly is a move to ever so slightly more "adult" material which along with the "teen pregnant" line in Commandos in the Classroom probably constitues a change in TBC's writing style, probably in recognition of the fact that there's no question of their writing for kids anymore. [[User:131.111.250.142|131.111.250.142]] 22:19, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

People, he is making out with paper. I think that we are being critical saying that the TBC is moving toward an R rated site. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 22:24, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

== Accents ==

Possible goof - when one of the three scotsmen speaks (to say 'BAGH! Only 23 metres!), he's speaking with an irish accent.

What? I think that it's Scottish. Plus, corn is no place for a mighty warrior! --{{User:The 386/sig}} 23:40, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

:People do that often (try to do a Scottish accent and wind up Irish). What we hear here is only a rough approximation hinting at a vaguely British-Isles accent. But please see the definition of [[HRWiki:Standards#Goofs|a goof]] (also linked just a little way up the page). A goof is not when TBC fail to meet our expectations; it's when they fail to meet ''theirs''. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:56, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh, man! What would the accents mean? I am just concerned. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 15:51, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 10

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DMurphy: /* Vowels */

==TGS Issue Picture==
Which picture should we use? [[Image:Mightywarrior.PNG|thumb|"Mightywarrior.PNG"]][[Image:TeenGirlSquad10.PNG|thumb|"TeenGirlSquad10.PNG"]]

Number one (the warrior) id say. its somthing difffernt
:The lower one definitely. It shows the theme of the episode better. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:47, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Stan! ==

In the hidden easter egg where The ugly one's dad is advertising, the way he is waving his arms around is a striking resemblence to Stan from the Monkey Island Games. Would this be a fun fact?

Easter Egg? If this exists why isn't it listed? --[[User:Mrdude|jake]] 15:37, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== New Software ==

I think the reason for the new animation is TBC got some new animation software and they wanted to test it out. [[User:DaChazman|DaChazman]]

It's all done with Flash. If it were done with Flash 8 (the new one) we'd know. [[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 16:25, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:Besides, with simple characters like that, you can do that with a few masks and shape tweens. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 21:13, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

I know there's some software that can export 3D animation to flash. It's called [http://www.erain.com Swift 3D]. However, I dont know if TBC are using it. -[[User:Jesselangham|Jesselangham]]

:They're not. There's nothing fancy with the rotation that they haven't done before, eg in [[funny]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 23:51, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, good point. That software is expensive anyway. Too expensive for a 1 second rotation. -[[User:Jesselangham|Jesselangham]]

== 3-D? I don't even know what that is! ==

I move that all instances of the word 3-D be replaced with the word 3D. Who's with me, eh? [[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 16:25, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:Can somebody who knows something about 3D software confirm that the "We got a spinner" gag is a reference to the bizarre glitches that such software sometimes create (elements moving by themselves in weird ways)? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:14, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:I found it to be a reference to CGI animation glitches like the ones shown under special features of Pixar movies.---[[User:RatherAnnoying|RatherAnnoying]] 19:29, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, that's what I was thinking of; like the monster's hair in Monsters Inc. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:32, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

: You're wrong, BTW. [[Wikipedia:3D|3D]] is an auto-redirect to [[Wikipedia:3-D|3-D]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:50, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

:And m-w.com doesn't recognize [http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=3d&book=Dictionary 3D], only 3-D. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:55, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

==Inside references==
In the party sequence, I know all the TGS inside references are listed in the cast of characters at the beginning, but is there any other appropriate way to mention it elsewhere? Say, an inside reference that simply says "See the Cast of Characters?" Also, can someone confirm my suspicion that this contains ''every'' TGS character seen to date (even a reference to Brett!), and that it's the first TGS to include a shot of the "real world," or of regular H*R characters other than Strong Bad? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:34, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:I'm not sure about your first question, but I can answer your second and third ones:
*2: No, it does not contain every TGS character to date. For example, the Floor Tom and the Vulture/Bat don't appear. See the Minor TGS Characters page for a bunch of characters that fail to appear.
*3: Yes and no. It is the first episode to show the "real world", but [[Pom Pom]] appears in episode #8.
:Hope that helps. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:45, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::This ''is'', however, the first TGS to show any character--including Strong Bad--outside of the comic's world. Pom Pom in issue 8 was still a drawing, as was Strong Bad's cameo appearances in issues 1, 8, and 9. This is the first time a TGS episode has had not-drawings in it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Actually, Strong Bad Email #53, "comic" also features TGS and "not-drawings" together. Which is the "official" TGS #1, anyway?
:::The Vultures do appear. See the bottom left corner of the scene where Manolios is introducing The Ugly One. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 19:55, 10 October 2005 (BST)
::::Sorry, I meant the Vulture from issue #2. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:58, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Vowels ==
Vowels are A-E-I-O-U "Y" is not a vowel :p
:Sometimes it is. It's being used as a vowel in this case. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::From the Wikipedia: "In the standard English language, the letter [[Wikipedia:Y|Y]] is traditionally regarded as a consonant, but as a survey of almost any English text, including this one, will show, Y more commonly functions as a vowel." So our anonymous friend is right. Y is not a vowel. And sign your posts.{{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:37, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::Also from Wikipedia: The name "vowel" is often used for the symbols used for representing vowel sounds in a language's writing system, particularly if the language uses an alphabet. In the Latin alphabet, the vowel letters are usually A, E, I, O, U, and in some languages Y, as in English. -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft.holmes]] 19:50, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Oh yeah, because an entirely user-edited encyclopaedia can NEVER contradict itself. Why don't we go with the majority and accept that Y is NOT a vowel?
::::[http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/RefEdList.aspx?refid=210026329 Encarta] seems to agree as well. After all, the way most schools teach vowels is A-E-I-O-U and SOMETIMES Y. In "sorry," Y is a vowel, as it is nearly impossible to construct a meaningful syllable without a vowel. Does "syzygy" also have no vowels in it? No. ... Okay, I rambled. Sorry. But Y is a vowel in this case. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:::: Because it is. The word "vowel" denotes how the letter is used, not what the letter is. As it happens, Y isn't the only "consonant" that can be used as a vowel (W is common, and G and H show up often too.) It's just that the five letters most commonly called "vowels" are the ones NEVER used as consonants. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:39, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

"Vowel" and "consonant" are phonetic distinctions, not letter distinctions. "We're sorry" is pronounced ([[Wikipedia:IPA chart for English|IPA]]) /wi:r sɒˈri:/ - both /i/s and the /ɒ/ are the vowels. It is simply that the large majority of vowel sounds are represented in English with A-E-I-O-U which is why they're called the 5 vowels. So we then have 2 definitions of "vowel" - a vowel ''phoneme'' (which is relevant for the "there's at least one vowel in every syllable" rule) or a vowel ''letter'' (strictly A-E-I-O-U, possibly Y depending on who you ask). The confusion only comes when you get the two confused - for example a syllable does not require A-E-I-O-U(-Y), just a vowel phoneme. Getting back to the point, it's impossible to pronounce words completely without vowel phonemes, /ə/ slips in everywhere (/wər sər/ is as far as you can take "we're sorry"). "Removing all the vowels" only makes sense from a vowel letter view, in which case Y only applies if whoever it is wants it to. And now I'm rambling a bit, so I'll stop. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:13, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

You know... even after all this controversy, it doesn't make a good Fun Fact, since she never mentions taking ALL the vowels out. She says "taking ''the'' vowels out," which, yes, implies ''all'' the vowels, but doesn't say it emphatically. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:33, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I'm confused. Have we reached a conensus yet? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 11:57, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

This is a horrible fun fact. Regardless of whether or not Y is a vowel... the scene is meant to be a pun on internet slang (in AIM saying sry instead of sorry). If they said "'m Srr" it wouldn't be nearly as catchy or funny. I fail to see how this is of interest to anyone. -[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:30, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

==The other side of the paper==
When the paper saying "Its over" in on screen, you can see the other side of the paper, which is the image of Strong Bad making out with the Ugly One. I dont know if you can see it on a regular screen, but I can only see it on my Laptop, if I makes the screen darker. - Lord-Z
: I see it too. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:Yes, and this has already been noted in the transcript. It's been covered just for you ;){{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 21:11, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== References ==
When the Ugly One's father presents her to the party, I am pretty sure that that is a reference to the MTV show, My Super Sweet Sixteen. Am I correct? --[[User:ItalianBallerina|ItalianBallerina]]

No, this is just a common practice at sweet sixteens. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 20:50, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Breakin? ==
When Strong Bad says "Arrow'd II: Electric- wait a minute!", it seems to be a reference to "Breakin II: Electric Boogaloo", a movie which has been mentioned on the site before. [[User:TheSyndicate88|TheSyndicate88]]
:Check the fun facts, dude. It's already in there. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== Olympic Coach's Voice? ==

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Olympic coach is the only TGS character not voiced by Strong Bad. If so, do you think that's a worthy fun fact? [[User:SA2Tails|SA2Tails]] 21:53, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:What about Mr. Pitters?

:Also the vultures as they are eating Mr. Pitters do not have a Strong Bad-type voice. Maybe Fatty's Big Chance as well. The voice is grainy and rough, but not as much as the other characters. --[[User:Gillan The Villain|Gillan The Villain]] 22:19, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

==Has 3D Been Used Before?==
I think 3D was used before. On [[The Luau]], the tofu seems to be spinning in 3D. -[[User:Lotionman|Lotionman]] 23:34, 10 October 2005 (UTC)Lotionman
:I think what has everybody so excited is that in this one the ''camera'' moved in 3D. Though I'm not sure it took anything more than plain ol' Flash to do that. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:Don't forget the opening to [[The Interview]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:21, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:True, but the animation here seems a lot smoother than that, with the spinning camera sequence, What's-her-face spinning and Strong Bad's movements at the end of the toon.
::Only because the framerate is higher. Flash's default framerate is 12fps - which is about the lower limit for most people being able to distinguish animations from a series of pictures. TGS10 is 20fps - so a lot of the animations are smoother. I've looked with the decompiler - just trust me when I say that What's Her Face spinning is done exactly the same way that they do Strong Bad's head turning to look from side to side. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:29, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

== Pictures from the Party ==

I made an image of the pan across the party, showing the minor characters appearing in attendance. It'd make a nice picture for somewhere, I think. (I had the idea of making it just a link, not an actual picture, and putting it in the issue 10 article somewhere. [[Duck Guardian One]] has an example of this in the Trivia section.) One thing though: the picture is roughly four or five times bigger in file size than what's normally recommended to upload. So I thought I'd tell people before acting, just in case. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Pwn ==
Is pwn a reference to [http://www.purepwnage.com/ Pure Pwnage]? Because thats basically the only other place I've heard it. - [[User:Faro1|Faro1]]
:It's vice versa - Pure Pwnage is a referance to the word pwn. Look at the [[Wikipedia:Pwn|wikipedia link]] from the article. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:31, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm glad they made fun of that term. Can't we just correct the typo and call it "ownage?" -[[User:Jesselangham|Jesselangham]]

== Goof or Remark ==
[[Image:Babydaddy.PNG|100px|thumb]]
<div style="border:1px #CCC solid;padding:3px;background:#fafafa;">''In the rotational scene, Cheerleader's ''baby daddy'' seems to come out of her dress.''</div>

:I think this inconsistancy was a mistake made by the Brothers Chaps, therefore a goof. However, It's dot com insists otherwise, rendering it a Remark. What is it? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:05, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Remark.'''</s> I'm not saying they did it ''on purpose'' per se. I ''am'' saying that because this sequence is the first of its kind on the site, they would have paid it extra special attention. Therefore, TBC would have realized the type is doing what it does. Maybe they actually did do it intentionally. Maybe they saw how it turned out and liked what they got. Or maybe there was some technical limitation that made it like it is. It doesn't really matter, because the point is that they didn't ''mistakingly'' do it the way they did. I mean, let's give them a ''little'' credit. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:13, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft.holmes]] 21:06, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I don't know how this could happen to make it a goof. There's no way they would have programmed the words to ''not'' be on the shirt and not have noticed. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 22:11, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Goof.''' Now I don't know for sure if it'd be easy to fix or not, but it seems to me they could have just omitted the "ba" and "da" to get a favorable result. If they noticed it, they probably figured it was just one frame and not worth fixing. But that doesn't change the fact that it is still a goof - missed or seen and ignored. This seems to be just as much of a goof as all the other ones written down there. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}</s>
*'''Goof.''' When I posted it, I put it on goofs. I'm with Joshua on this one. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:33, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Goof.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:34, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Goof.''' Paying attention or not, the writing is off the shirt. That says ''goof'' to me. We don't know their intentions. -[[User:B|B]] 21:16, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
**The fact that we don't know their intentions is a prime reason for it to be a remark. I'd rather err on the side of TBC here. Calling it a remark when it was a goof doesn't make it less true, and leaves it open to interpretation. Calling it a goof when it really wasn't stigmatizes it unnecessarily. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
*Just because they don't bother to fix it doesn't mean it's not a goof. If we followed your standards, then we'd have to move a lot, maybe almost all, of the goofs to remarks. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:44, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
**Not at all. I'm trying to emphasize that they would not have been careless here, since the effect is new and unique. I believe they have both of these things here exactly how they want them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
* <s>'''Remark.''' After going through it frame by frame, I discovered that Cheerleader's text is floating off the ENTIRE thing, all three times, rather than the single frame that I thought before. So now I think TBC did it to make the overall thing look better when moving quickly, to make the 3D stand out more. But it still deserves mention. And a better picture. (It's hard to see what's what in the currect pic.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:17, 11 October 2005 (UTC)</s>
* [[Image:sbfacemask.png|thumb|right|Strong Bad's head, with and without masking]] '''Glitch''' - some explination of how TBC make things rotate is in order. Making a realistic rotation would be very time consuming, and you'd need to draw almost every frame to get it to look smooth. However, TBC take a shortcut - almost everything they make that rotates is just a plain sphere with a thing added on it, eg Strong Bad's face or his shoelace thingy - apart from that his head is perfectly round - so when they rotate his head left and right only the face and shoelace have to move, the actual head can stay still. Now for the second shortcut - when his face moves around his head, they don't actually do anything fancy to make it go "around" - they just move it straight from left to right, no distortion, no parallax, nothing. Then they take a mask the shape of SB's head and use it to crop the face to the head. The result - it looks like the face is going around the head. Look at the picture on the right if you're not sure what I mean. If the effect isn't strong enough they add things like skews to make it more real, but for the most part they don't need to. Now we come to Cheerleader's shirt. They did the same thing they always do. They animated everyone's faces and the writing on Cheerleader's dress as moving across them from side to side. Then they added a mask to their faces, but forgot to add a mask to Cheerleader's dress. Hence it is a glitch, I see no reason for them to do this intentionally, and a perfectly good reason for them to do it accidentally. As for Goof vs Glitch, I thought Goofs were things like plot holes, mistakes in the design of the toon, and Glitches were mistakes in the actual building of the toon in Flash, like this. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:56, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

:'''Thank you''', Phlip. For one thing, I had been wondering about the seemingly indiscriminate and interchangeable use of "Goof" and "Glitch." Seems to me a lot of Goofs around here need moving... Also, thanks for finally providing some insight on the way the Flash stuff worked. I agree it's a Flash-generated glitch, but for the record I'm not ''necessarily'' saying they didn't notice it and think it was cool. I think it's kinda cool myself. It enhances the 3-D-ness of it all, kind of a ViewMaster moment. :) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:12, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Glitch.''' Shifting my vote again. Phlip's explanation makes a lot of sense. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:07, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Glicth.''' I can go for a glitch here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:22, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

 <div style="border:1px #CCC solid;padding:3px;background:#fafafa;">''When Strong Bad rewinds the 3-D spin around, the "SO GOOD!" speech bubble disappears.''</div>

:Same deal here as above. The bubble was there, then it wasn't. All that happened was a rewind and replay. OOPS. Seems pretty clear, and the note is still there. -[[User:B|B]] 21:16, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

*'''Remark.''' I really can't imagine how this could be accidental. I just don't see TBC watching this toon later and slapping their heads: "We forgot to keep the speech bubble there!" — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:36, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know ''I'' wouldn't want to deal with animating a speech bubble if I had a Monday deadline. I don't know how a rotating speech bubble would work realistically, so I think they probably took it out so people wouldn't look at it and say "wow, that just doesn't look good" if they got it wrong. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 22:38, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
***Look closely - they already did a rotating speach bubble the first time they spin around - it's just not there when they spin the second time... So, '''Glitch'''. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:56, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Goof.''' But this differs from the above. Although I doubt TBC did this without noticing, it is an "inconsistancy," which officially makes a [[HRWiki:Standards#Goofs|goof]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} (You know, we really are fighting over nothing. :P)

The wording of the Standard you linked is: "...if things mysteriously vanish or appear (and it's not obviously intentional...)." Personally I have a problem with that wording; I would move it be changed to "obviously ''not'' intentional." Little change, big difference. First of all, let's all notice that they ''did'' animate the rotating speech bubble on the first rotation, okay? Then it disappears because they're done talking. Now if it was in fact an omission, it was a pretty big honkin' one; it's not like the [[A Folky Tale#Goofs|grass around Strong Sad]]; it's a huge... well, thing. My personal opinion is that they left it off the second time because this rotation is essentially a ''visual'' effect, and they didn't want it to get in the way of the effect. If it was in fact an omission, it would have to be a last-minute, bleary-eyed, semi-conscious one (which doesn't fit the quality of the rest of the 'toon). I'm staying non-commital as usual, but I find the arguments for not even mentioning this one pretty strong. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:20, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
: "Not obviously intentional" conveys the meaning I intended when I wrote that better than "Obviously not intentional." For instance, with the "baby daddy" thing, it's not obviously not intentional, but it's not obviously intentional either. (If you can parse that.) However, the disagreement here is on just what IS obvious in this case. This much is obvious: they didn't just reverse and repeat the scene, since the speech bubble is missing. Maybe they just felt like drawing it twice, maybe the second time was an earlier version, or maybe it was intentional. And, at any rate, I'm not willing to call it a "Goof," because it's really not needed (speech bubbles are not physical objects in the real world, so its non-inclusion doesn't really affect what's happening in the scene at all.) So '''remark.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:43, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
::I agree with what Jay is saying and I maintain that it is a remark. On the other hand, it is pretty obvious by just watching the toon, so like AbdiViklas hinted, perhaps it should just go unmentioned. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:29, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

== Making out ==

Is this the first time we've ever seen Strong Bad actually make out with something? I mean, he's always gone on about it. If it really is the first time I think it's worthy of a mention in the article somehow.
:It think this is the first time we've seen him... kissing. I think it's noteworthy. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:23, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
i thought that was discusting....i had too close down the window and turn the
volume all the way down!-[[User:Timmy!]]

== Accents ==

Possible goof - when one of the three scotsmen speaks (to say 'BAGH! Only 23 metres!), he's speaking with an irish accent.

What? I think that it's Scottish. Plus, corn is no place for a mighty warrior! --{{User:The 386/sig}} 23:40, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

:People do that often (try to do a Scottish accent and wind up Irish). What we hear here is only a rough approximation hinting at a vaguely British-Isles accent. But please see the definition of [[HRWiki:Standards#Goofs|a goof]] (also linked just a little way up the page). A goof is not when TBC fail to meet our expectations; it's when they fail to meet ''theirs''. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:56, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

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== How do I join the welcoming committee ==

I want to help out on this site, and I saw you on the list for the committee, so I wanted to ask you how I can join. I put my name on the list by using the edit button, does that mean that I'm on the commitee?--[[User:Thecheat1234|Thecheat1234]] 23:16, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Yes! If you see somebody new, feel free to welcome them in the same manner [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] welcomed you. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:27, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

*I find out where all the new users are on Recent Changes, right?--[[User:Thecheat1234|Thecheat1234]] 00:30, 28 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:That is correct, TC1234. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 01:54, 28 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Signature ==

How do I create an online signiture? Besides this:[[User: Ampi|Ampi]]? -Ampi
:Hi there, Ampi. I typed out some instructions your [[User talk:Ampi|talk page]]. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 01:54, 28 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Ever time i do my sig it comes out as:[[User:djm1791|{{User:djm1791/sig}}]] 05:09, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC) can you help?
:[[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] has already answered your question on [[User_talk:djm1791|your talk page]]. Simply check "Raw signatures (without automatic link)" under preferences. Happy "signaturing"! {{User:The Paper/sig}} 05:40, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== DVD images ==

Thank you, The Paper. Nothing quite spruces up a DVD page like your images. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:19, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Hey thanks. That is quite a complement, coming from you. You do a great job with the weekly fanstuff and sketchbook. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 16:29, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Store Images ==

Sorry about the images I uploaded earlier. I got about halfway through when I realized the quality was terrible. I just finished editing them and was about to upload the new versions when I got your message. I sort of stumbled upon [[User:Homestar Coder/Store|Homestar Coder's Store mockup]] and thought I'd finish it up. I've got it all finished, but I wanted to upload the pictures before I put the new store version up. -- [[user:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]][[User talk:mibluvr13|dígame]] 17:26, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Homestar's Shades==
I saw that you made a bigger version of the picture on [[Homestar's Shades]]. The picture of Homestar on Main Page 3 did not have his glasses on. I already fixed it. -[[User:Lotionman|Lotionman]] 05:45, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)Lotionman
:Thank you for fixing it! It is really funny, really. I got so caught up in making sure the image was PNG optimized that I forgot that Homestar wasn't even wearing his sunglasses in the bottom right corner. However, when you replaced it, the image seemed to be slightly blurred and the file size doubled. I have uploaded a replacement which is nearly identical to yours, except it is clearer and takes up 50% less space. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:55, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Item vs. Character==
To the Paper-
Hi! I'm new so, can I have some help. You are part of the welcoming commitee, so I went to you. Also, [[The Paper]] is my favorite character. Why is he listed as an item instead of a character? - [[User:Tompkins]]
:Hi Tompkins. I'll give you an official welcome message on your talk page shortly. In the mean time, I will address your question: The main reason why The Paper is listed as an item instead of a character is because it has no speaking lines other than its sound effect "preeeeow" and the "Email Strong Bad" message. Also, The Paper does not interact with any characters other than Strong Bad. The Brothers Chaps said the following at the end of the [[animal#Commentary_Transcript|animal DVD commentary]]:

<div style="background:black; color:white; padding:8px; width: 550px; text-align:left">'''MATT:''' ...Over the years, The Paper definitely has become more and more of a— '''MIKE:''' A character. '''MATT:''' It should have been on that big characters poster we made, I think. '''MIKE:''' Yeah. It definitely has a personality.</div>

Nevertheless, most users on the wiki would still agree that The Paper is not a character. But personally I am still open to the idea. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 22:39, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Nice Jorb ==

Hey, nice job on your user page. You made it well. Keep up the good work! --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:47, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks, Martin! I appreciate the complement. I also look foward to working with you on the wiki. See you around. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 04:59, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== I Noticed ==
:Hi there The Paper. I noticed.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:51, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::Trust you to notice. http://forum.hrwiki.org/images/smiles/icon_mrgreen.gif Thanks! {{User:The Paper/sig}} 21:35, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== The Paper Sighting ==

Just read what [http://www.theaterhopper.com/index.php?strip_id=490 Tom] is reading there. Thought of you the second I laid my eyes on it. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:38, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Good find. It's funny when common things are labeled like that. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 15:57, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Tick ==

The reason I had <nowiki>[[Image:wiki_tick]] instead of {{tick}}</nowiki> was because that was before the template was made. Otherwise I wouldv'e made it a template. :-) {{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 23:04, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:But of course. And as I understand it, JoeyDay changed the checkmark/tick icon from Green to Red. Guess it's just a matter of color preference. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 23:11, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::I like the red one. {{tick}} {{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 23:18, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Flash cartoon redirect ==

Noice work, Clanky. We took care of them all. Good prize. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:58, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Um, I don't think you got them [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Homestar_Runner_%28flash_cartoon%29 all]. I'm going to have [[User:GrapeNuts|GrapeNuts]] take care of the rest of these. Is this project listed anywhere, or did you two talk about this in chat or something? I was trying to find another place to note that I was helping, but I can't find this mentioned anywhere else. Thanks. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 19:34, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::No, I didn't want to touch any redirects that users made on talk pages. I'm okay with letting them stay as redirects. It was just a little unspoken project that I started, and The Paper followed through on, just on certain namespaces. But, it's okay to use GrapeNuts. I just had a quick change of mind. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:38, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::The redirect links aren't just in talk namespaces (e.g. they are in the HRWiki namespace). I'll start with just those, and if there's really enough consensus here I don't see why we shouldn't change user and talk pages as well. '''EDIT:''' Heh, in fact, there was a very relevant bad link [[HRWiki:Projects#Links_to_be_fixed|on the Projects page]]. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 19:49, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::::Nice. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:55, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::::Okay, the ones in the HRWiki namespace are done, and I also did [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Television_Sightings&diff=0&oldid=146181 one] in the main namespace. Should I start on the User, User talk, and Talk namespaces? — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 20:01, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== [[:Image:sbemail136.PNG]] ==

Hi The Paper! The image for [[geddup noise]] has an unwanted black border around it. I tried to upload a better version, cropping off the black border, but I realised the image was protected. Seeing as your online, can you please re-upload the image without the black border, or temporarily unprotect it so I can upload the better version? Thanks, {{User:Rainer/sig}} 12:41, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I've been meaning to upload a new one. I was sidetracked on another wiki project. Thanks for keeping me aware of this issue. There should a cropped version uploaded now. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 12:49, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Different Cursors ==

What kinds of different cursors are there? Besides the Arrow, Finger, and Crosshair? {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}

What the? Why did I post that on your user page? :S {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}

:There are several. You can find a complete listing in the [http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/ui.html#cursor-props W3C spec].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:23, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Troll==
:Hi paper. Just thougt you ought to know that someone messed with the sandbox template. I fixed it, but it said that people who mess with it get blocked, and I figure you can. Their user was 68.101.68.101. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:28, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::Thanks for letting me know, Bubsty. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 01:31, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:np. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:33, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Email==

''{singing}''
"Everybody, check your email..." (Hint hint) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 14:52, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Featured Article ==

Yep, I noticed that. I'm very impressed with how much it's evolved since I last saw things. Thanks for your help with keeping it going! -[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 04:14, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Strong Bad Email Statistics

2005-10-12T04:00:33Z

DMurphy:

[[Image:NoLoafingPieChart.png|thumb|No Loafing!]]

With more and more [[Strong Bad Email]] released on the [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner website]], it is hard to keep track of all the statistics. For example, which computer was used the most, or how the length of emails has increased throughout the years. To correctly calculate those numbers, a few charts and graphs have been made for the ease of the people who like to know ''everything'' about [[Strong Bad]] and his emails.

<h2 style="clear: both;">Strong Bad Email By Length</h2>
This section involves data taken from the list [[Strong Bad Email By Length]].
[[Image:SBEScatter.png|thumb|200px|left|A scatter plot of chronological number vs. length, with outliers.]]

*The scatter plot shows a fairly strong positive correlation between Email Number and Email Length. The ''r'' value between these two variables without deleting outliers is .736.
**An ''r'' value of 1 would indicate a perfect, positive correlation. A value of -1 indicates a perfect, negative correlation. Therefore, .736 indicates a fairly strong, positive correlation.
*This plot shows there are a handful of clear outliers which are likely affecting the correlation. In the plot below, the outliers have been removed. A Least Squares Regression Line (LSRL) has also been added.
**The outliers were defined as those emails with a residual value of 40 or greater, or -40 or less.

[[Image:SBELinReg.png|thumb|200px|right|A scatter plot of chronological number vs. length, without outliers.]]

*The LSRL can be used to extrapolate, or guess the length of future emails. The ''r'' value of this line is .946.
**The equation for the LSRL is y = 1.4051x + 43.995. y = Time (seconds); x = Email number
*This method of guessing is not 100% accurate, since it is unlikely the emails will ever be, say, 20 minutes long. This equation should not be considered a foolproof method for guessing the length of an email, but it does give a nice idea of what the average length of an email is at a given point in time.

<h2 style="clear: both;">Strong Bad Email By Era</h2>
[[Image:bar_graph_by_length.PNG|thumb|200px|left|"The newer, the longer"]]
[[Image:pie_graph_by_era.PNG|thumb|200px|right|But [[Compy 386]] can win the stupid competition.]]

This section involves data on the computer used to answer each email, or the "era" of the computer. The categories are [[Tandy 400]], Broken Tandy, [[Compy 386]], [[Lappy 486]], and Other. (So far, other is [[Pom Pilot]] and [[Tangerine Dreams]])

<h2 style="clear: both;">Total Time Spent Using Each Computer</h2>
[[Image:SBESTimeSpentChart.png|thumb|200px|left|That's a lot of seconds.]]

This section involves data taken from the Strong Bad Email by Length page. The chart recognizes four categories of computers: Tandy 400 (includes Broken Tandy), Lappy 486, Compy 386, and Other.

<h2 style="clear: both;">Strong Bad Emails Featuring More Than One Email</h2>
Several Strong Bad Emails feature more than one email.
*[[huttah!]] — 7 emails
*[[spring cleaning]] — 5 emails
*[[50 emails]] — 4 emails
*[[cheatday]] — 4 emails
*[[E-mail Birds]] — 3 emails
*[[2 emails]] — 3 emails (third is fast-forwarded through)
*[[bottom 10]] — 2 emails
*[[credit card]] — 2 emails
*[[lady...ing]] — 2 emails
*[[lunch special]] — 2 emails
*[[other days]] — 2 emails
*[[sisters]] — 2 emails

<h2 style="clear: both;">Intervals Between Strong Bad Emails</h2>
[[Image:sb_email_frequency.png|thumb|200px|right|A column graph showing the intervals between Strong Bad Emails.]]

Strong Bad Emails are released at varying frequencies. The graph on the right shows the number of days in between the release of an email.
Here is a summary of the data:
* Mean: 10.7 days
* Median: 7 days
* Mode: 7 days — 64 emails came out 7 days after the previous release
* Minimum: 4 days — There were 4 days between the releases of [[brianrietta]] and [[i love you]] as well as [[ghosts]] and [[theme party]]
* Maximum: 49 days — There were 49 days between the releases of [[lady...ing]] and [[geddup noise]]

''Note: Data is not complete. Reliable dates are not available for [[homsar]], [[butt IQ]], [[homestar hair]], [[making out]], [[depressio]], and [[sb_email 22]]. This data is as of September 26, 2005.

<h2 style="clear: both;">Other Semi-Useful Information</h2>
*44.58% of all emails have no location given; 2.9% have no return sender at all.
*The average email is 1.88 sentences long; the average cartoon is 142.4 seconds long.
*[[The Brothers Chaps]] most frequently choose emails with sender names starting with J, S, or M. Together these senders make up a whopping 34.55% of all emails.
*Only 18.65% of all emails are longer than two sentences. No email longer than four sentences has ever been used.

<h2 style="clear: both;">External Links</h2>

*[http://www.strongfans.com/EmailDatabase.xls View the data (Excel Spreadsheet)] 45KB, current as of 19 August 2005.

{{StrongBadEmailInfo}}
[[Category: Strong Bad Email]]

Talk:Strong Bad Email Statistics

2005-10-12T03:51:36Z

DMurphy: /* Back */

Talk:Strong Bad Email Statistics

2005-10-12T03:51:11Z

DMurphy: Back

File:SBELinReg.png

2005-10-12T03:21:34Z

DMurphy:

Created by [[User:DMurphy]] using MS Excel. Includes emails 1-136. Generated using data from the [[Strong Bad Email By Length]] list.

File:SBEScatter.png

2005-10-12T03:20:11Z

DMurphy:

Created by [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] using MS Excel. Generated using Data from the [[Strong Bad Email By Length]] list. Includes emails 1-136.

Strong Bad Email Statistics

2005-10-12T03:18:28Z

DMurphy: Added semi-useful info section

[[Image:NoLoafingPieChart.png|thumb|No Loafing!]]

With more and more [[Strong Bad Email]] released on the [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner website]], it is hard to keep track of all the statistics. For example, which computer was used the most, or how the length of emails has increased throughout the years. To correctly calculate those numbers, a few charts and graphs have been made for the ease of the people who like to know ''everything'' about [[Strong Bad]] and his emails.

<h2 style="clear: both;">Strong Bad Email By Length</h2>
This section involves data taken from the list [[Strong Bad Email By Length]].
[[Image:SBEScatter.png|thumb|200px|left|A scatter plot of chronological number vs. length, with outliers.]]

*The scatter plot shows a fairly strong positive correlation between Email Number and Email Length. The ''r'' value between these two variables without deleting outliers is .736.
**An ''r'' value of 1 would indicate a perfect, positive correlation. A value of -1 indicates a perfect, negative correlation. Therefore, .736 indicates a fairly strong, positive correlation.
*This plot shows there are a handful of clear outliers which are likely affecting the correlation. In the plot below, the outliers have been removed. A Least Squares Regression Line (LSRL) has also been added.
**The outliers were defined as those emails with a residual value of 40 or greater, or -40 or less.

[[Image:SBELinReg.png|thumb|200px|right|A scatter plot of chronological number vs. length, without outliers.]]

*The LSRL can be used to extrapolate, or guess the length of future emails. The ''r'' value of this line is .946.
**The equation for the LSRL is y = 1.4051x + 43.995. y = Time (seconds); x = Email number
*This method of guessing is not 100% accurate, since it is unlikely the emails will ever be, say, 20 minutes long. This equation should not be considered a foolproof method for guessing the length of an email, but it does give a nice idea of what the average length of an email is at a given point in time.

<h2 style="clear: both;">Strong Bad Email By Era</h2>
[[Image:bar_graph_by_length.PNG|thumb|200px|left|"The newer, the longer"]]
[[Image:pie_graph_by_era.PNG|thumb|200px|right|But [[Compy 386]] can win the stupid competition.]]

This section involves data on the computer used to answer each email, or the "era" of the computer. The categories are [[Tandy 400]], Broken Tandy, [[Compy 386]], [[Lappy 486]], and Other. (So far, other is [[Pom Pilot]] and [[Tangerine Dreams]])

<h2 style="clear: both;">Strong Bad Emails Featuring More Than One Email</h2>
Several Strong Bad Emails feature more than one email.
*[[huttah!]] — 7 emails
*[[spring cleaning]] — 5 emails
*[[50 emails]] — 4 emails
*[[cheatday]] — 4 emails
*[[E-mail Birds]] — 3 emails
*[[2 emails]] — 3 emails (third is fast-forwarded through)
*[[bottom 10]] — 2 emails
*[[credit card]] — 2 emails
*[[lady...ing]] — 2 emails
*[[lunch special]] — 2 emails
*[[other days]] — 2 emails
*[[sisters]] — 2 emails

<h2 style="clear: both;">Intervals Between Strong Bad Emails</h2>
[[Image:sb_email_frequency.png|thumb|200px|right|A column graph showing the intervals between Strong Bad Emails.]]

Strong Bad Emails are released at varying frequencies. The graph on the right shows the number of days in between the release of an email.
Here is a summary of the data:
* Mean: 10.7 days
* Median: 7 days
* Mode: 7 days — 64 emails came out 7 days after the previous release
* Minimum: 4 days — There were 4 days between the releases of [[brianrietta]] and [[i love you]] as well as [[ghosts]] and [[theme party]]
* Maximum: 49 days — There were 49 days between the releases of [[lady...ing]] and [[geddup noise]]

''Note: Data is not complete. Reliable dates are not available for [[homsar]], [[butt IQ]], [[homestar hair]], [[making out]], [[depressio]], and [[sb_email 22]]. This data is as of September 26, 2005.

<h2 style="clear: both;">Other Semi-Useful Information</h2>
*44.58% of all emails have no location given; 2.9% have no return sender at all.
*The average email is 1.88 sentences long; the average cartoon is 142.4 seconds long.
*[[The Brothers Chaps]] most frequently choose emails with sender names starting with J, S, or M. Together these senders make up a whopping 34.55% of all emails.
*Only 18.65% of all emails are longer than two sentences. No email longer than four sentences has ever been used.

<h2 style="clear: both;">External Links</h2>

*[http://www.strongfans.com/EmailDatabase.xls View the data (Excel Spreadsheet)] 45KB, current as of 19 August 2005.

{{StrongBadEmailInfo}}
[[Category: Strong Bad Email]]

Strong Bad Email Statistics

2005-10-12T02:37:15Z

DMurphy:

[[Image:NoLoafingPieChart.png|thumb|No Loafing!]]

With more and more [[Strong Bad Email]] released on the [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner website]], it is hard to keep track of all the statistics. For example, which computer was used the most, or how the length of emails has increased throughout the years. To correctly calculate those numbers, a few charts and graphs have been made for the ease of the people who like to know ''everything'' about [[Strong Bad]] and his emails.

<h2 style="clear: both;">Strong Bad Email By Length</h2>
This section involves data taken from the list [[Strong Bad Email By Length]].
[[Image:SBEScatter.png|thumb|200px|left|A scatter plot of chronological number vs. length, with outliers.]]

*The scatter plot shows a fairly strong positive correlation between Email Number and Email Length. The ''r'' value between these two variables without deleting outliers is .736.
**An ''r'' value of 1 would indicate a perfect, positive correlation. A value of -1 indicates a perfect, negative correlation. Therefore, .736 indicates a fairly strong, positive correlation.
*This plot shows there are a handful of clear outliers which are likely affecting the correlation. In the plot below, the outliers have been removed. A Least Squares Regression Line (LSRL) has also been added.
**The outliers were defined as those emails with a residual value of 40 or greater, or -40 or less.

[[Image:SBELinReg.png|thumb|200px|right|A scatter plot of chronological number vs. length, without outliers.]]

*The LSRL can be used to extrapolate, or guess the length of future emails. The ''r'' value of this line is .946.
**The equation for the LSRL is y = 1.4051x + 43.995. y = Time (seconds); x = Email number
*This method of guessing is not 100% accurate, since it is unlikely the emails will ever be, say, 20 minutes long. This equation should not be considered a foolproof method for guessing the length of an email, but it does give a nice idea of what the average length of an email is at a given point in time.

<h2 style="clear: both;">Strong Bad Email By Era</h2>
[[Image:bar_graph_by_length.PNG|thumb|200px|left|"The newer, the longer"]]
[[Image:pie_graph_by_era.PNG|thumb|200px|right|But [[Compy 386]] can win the stupid competition.]]

This section involves data on the computer used to answer each email, or the "era" of the computer. The categories are [[Tandy 400]], Broken Tandy, [[Compy 386]], [[Lappy 486]], and Other. (So far, other is [[Pom Pilot]] and [[Tangerine Dreams]])

<h2 style="clear: both;">Strong Bad Emails Featuring More Than One Email</h2>
Several Strong Bad Emails feature more than one email.
*[[huttah!]] — 7 emails
*[[spring cleaning]] — 5 emails
*[[50 emails]] — 4 emails
*[[cheatday]] — 4 emails
*[[E-mail Birds]] — 3 emails
*[[2 emails]] — 3 emails (third is fast-forwarded through)
*[[bottom 10]] — 2 emails
*[[credit card]] — 2 emails
*[[lady...ing]] — 2 emails
*[[lunch special]] — 2 emails
*[[other days]] — 2 emails
*[[sisters]] — 2 emails

<h2 style="clear: both;">Intervals Between Strong Bad Emails</h2>
[[Image:sb_email_frequency.png|thumb|200px|right|A column graph showing the intervals between Strong Bad Emails.]]

Strong Bad Emails are released at varying frequencies. The graph on the right shows the number of days in between the release of an email.
Here is a summary of the data:
* Mean: 10.7 days
* Median: 7 days
* Mode: 7 days — 64 emails came out 7 days after the previous release
* Minimum: 4 days — There were 4 days between the releases of [[brianrietta]] and [[i love you]] as well as [[ghosts]] and [[theme party]]
* Maximum: 49 days — There were 49 days between the releases of [[lady...ing]] and [[geddup noise]]

''Note: Data is not complete. Reliable dates are not available for [[homsar]], [[butt IQ]], [[homestar hair]], [[making out]], [[depressio]], and [[sb_email 22]]. This data is as of September 26, 2005.

<h2 style="clear: both;">External Links</h2>

*[http://www.strongfans.com/EmailDatabase.xls View the data (Excel Spreadsheet)] 45KB, current as of 19 August 2005.

{{StrongBadEmailInfo}}
[[Category: Strong Bad Email]]

HRWiki:STUFF'd Project Activities Control League

2005-06-02T04:29:21Z

DMurphy: HRWiki:STUFF'd Project Activities Control League moved to HRWiki:Fun Fact Review Committee

#REDIRECT [[HRWiki:Fun Fact Review Committee]]

HRWiki talk:STUFF'd Project Activities Control League

2005-05-15T04:18:17Z

DMurphy: /* Comments, etc. */

== By-Laws ==
The full list will be forthcoming. Please add ideas if you have them.
===Proposed By-Laws===

== Officers ==
Committee Chair: [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 
Vice-Chair: <Vacant>

== Membership ==
All registered members are eligiable to join, but may be barred for misconduct. Simply add your name to the list, plus date of joining.

===Roster===
[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 10 May 2005 

== Comments, etc. ==

Umm... Is this sanctioned by [[User:Tom|Tom]] or [[User:JoeyDay|Joey Day]]? Also, you meantioned that this commitee was formed on May 20th, 2005. Likely a typo? ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 00:58, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
:<s>I'll join if it was approved. If not, then...well, the page will be deleted by an admin. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 18:24, 14 May 2005 (UTC)</s>

Are you sure that this fits the title? I mean, "''Lobby those with power ([[Special:Listadmins|listed here]]) to get rid of [[HRWiki:WikiTroll|WikiTrolls]]''" seems a bit more than what this page is about, and then this ("''Lobby for the creation of a perminent Fun Fact Validation Committee with sysop powers.''") shows that this isn't the committee, this is the committee forming committee! The entire [[HRWiki:STUFF'd Project Activities Control League#Core Beliefs and Goals|core beliefs and goals]] section is questionable, meaning the entire page (and the talk page, apart from the comments section) is questionable! Also, I think you mean '''10'''th May 2005, not 20th. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] <tt>([[User talk:Venusy|Talk]])([[Special:Contributions/Venusy|Contributions]])</tt>, 20:43, 14 May 2005 (BST)
:Whoa, I didn't see that. I don't think that lobbying for sysop powers is wise. I'ma think I'll stay away from this one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 19:54, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

:Okay, I think this is going a bit far. The Real Zajac asked Joey Day if there could be a committee to monitor the STUFF page, and he said okay. A committee to monitor STUFF (remove old facts, etc.) sounds fine to me too. That... is not this. For one thing, why does there need to be a "fun facts validation committee" with sysop powers? Right now we have the fun facts evaluated by the whole Wiki community, which is far more in line with the spirit of a Wiki than one committee evaluating facts. Also, why does one need sysop powers to evaluate fun facts? Secondly, "lobby those with power to get rid of WikiTrolls"? What the crap? The sysops ''do'' get rid of Wiki Trolls, and other people should too. It's not like there's some permanent "Trolls Off" button that the admins have failed to press... as long as there is a Wiki, troll edits must be reverted, and anyone can (and should!) help. Finally, what's with all the bureaucracy, bylaws and whatnot? Why in the world would there be a need for a bylaw process? This just seems like it will lead to some bizarre, arcane structure of power that goes against Wiki philosophy. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:38, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

::I'ma have to agree with Aurora. I'm not really liking this committee. It's nicely formed and worded, but I don't think it serves much use, actually. And it doesn't seem to be going anywhere, seeing as the only "member" is the creator himself. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

::There's no denying the STUFF page desperately needs to be organized, but you've taken this committee a bit far. If you get rid of some of these silly policies and proposals, this committee could work. However, there's no need for offices, sysop powers, etc. This committee needs major reworking. Here are some changes that may help:
::*Change the name to STUFF Help and Management Committee - not as catchy, but it makes the purpose of the committee a lot clearer.
::*Add Major Tasks in place of Core Beliefs and Goals. Major Tasks would be:
::**Formatting the STUFF page
::**Helping users with questions regarding STUFF
::**Promoting the use of STUFF when necessary
::*Keep the history
::*Add a section on the Basics of STUFF. This would inform people on how to STUFF facts, formatting standards, etc.
::*Remove all the committee info on the Talk page. Add a list of Current Members on the main page.
::Basically, this should be modeled after the other committee pages, the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee|Welcoming Committee]] for example.
::-[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 04:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

The Cloitsterizer

2005-05-15T03:43:09Z

DMurphy: Added image

[[Image:cloitsterizer.jpg|thumb|Cloits and Dloits!!?!]]
'''The Cloisterizer''' is a piece of wooden cheese on a string. For a limited time, it was offered with the [[Ab-Abber 2000]] for free. [[Strong Bad]] sold it at his [[garage sale]] with the tag "Great for Graw Mad!"

It's based off of a real item; [[The Brothers Chaps]] saw a kid dragging one around in a thrift store in New York City, as said in the [[suntan]] DVD commentary.

== Appearances ==
*[[suntan]] 
*[[garage sale]] 

{{stub}}

[[Category:Items]]

User talk:401820265

2005-05-09T21:46:08Z

DMurphy: Welcome!

Yea don't be doubted by my username I just couldnt get the one I wanted.

== Welcome! ==

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User talk:PAUAU

2005-05-09T21:44:36Z

DMurphy: Welcome Message

==Welcome!==
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*Have a look at the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Index MediaWiki User's Guide].
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HRWiki:Old STUFF

2005-05-09T02:44:41Z

DMurphy: /* Not really a garage sale */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005

===[[sugarbob]]===
==== In correlation with another STUFF'D fun fact ====
One of Strong Bad's "girlfriends" types "LMAO." The A stands for a mildly offensive swear word. This is the second reference to swearing on the site. (The first was Strong Bad typing "What the f" in trevor the vampire.)

*'''Decline.''' So what? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:49, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is the second time? Ack! I usually kills these things before they can get STUFF-ed. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:42, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:46, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You, my friend, just bought yourself a decline''' Come on. It's bad enough when we have to vote on the "What the f" fact. I strongly doubt this is really the second time - and even if it is, who cares? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:36, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' "Damn," "Hell" and even "Friggin'" could also be considered swears by some, and these are used a on the site. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''third''' in the egg in [[comic]] there is a 45 of Mudhoney's "You Stupid Asshole" [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 00:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''' I like the first 2 sentences. everything after that can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:30
*God, why are people so (censored) obsessed with catolouging every blasted thing in the HR universe? Its bad enough there are facts like "This is the first time Marzipan raises an eyebrow". Jeez, '''Decline so hard you'd think there were two of 'em'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' thats all i can say '''Decline Decline Decline!''' i mean whats the point yo?!? --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 07:31, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinate without pizzaz and JAM!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 09:46, 4 May 2005 (CST)
** Best decline ever. They tell me not to, but I still '''seconds''' it! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 15:01, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Surprisingly, "crap" is also a mildly offensive swear word. Shall we count those too when we see whether this is the 2nd or not? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 16:13, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*Who cares? </carl> '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 19:54, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-clined.''' [[User:Bonk|Bonk]]
*If the trevor the vampire one gets declined, this one should be too. '''Pom-Pom! And! Strong Bad! Are! Totally! Declining!''' --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:50, 6 May 2005
*Yeah, DECLINE. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:11, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Toons! Games! Characters! Declines!''' First two sentences are both true, and obvious, while the third is completely untrue. The stuff in brackets has also been decided, and that's declined as well. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] <tt>([[User talk:Venusy|Talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Venusy|Contributions]])</tt>, 14:22, 7 May 2005 (BST)
*It's not <strike>Accept</strike> because HERE COMES THE '''Decline'''inkaman!
*'''Seconding All of the Declines''' Everything has already been said, and there are so many reasons that this shouldn't be on the site, it's insane. I hope they get rid of this one fast. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:37 May 8, 2005

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

*'''Decline''' Why oh why someone thought this was trivia boggles the mind. There is nothing to this "fact". She raised an eyebrow, whoopdie do. Trivia implies that someone will actually find the information interesting, nobody cares about facial expressions unless it somehow reveals something about the character (in the case of Strong Bad, it'd show that he actually has eyebrows). This just encourages the posting of worthless facts. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Then again, have we ever seen Marzipan have eyebrows?

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

*'''NO'D!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nay''' [[User:71.110.2.216|71.110.2.216]] 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:08, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. There's nothing more to say. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

*'''Accept.''' Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' Garage sales aren't in garages. They're called garage sales because one usually sells the old junk that's been sitting in one's garage. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Utterly useless fun fact. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''--[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 18:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Garage sale, yard sale, they can be used interchangably. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''. Garage sale is a colloquialism. It doesn't mean that the sale has to happen ''in'' the garage. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' The garage sales I've seen actually take place in garages. I won't be sad though if this fact gets voted down. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' What he said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 04:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:21, May 8 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this obvious, but also the term "garage sale" is a blanket term, and doesn't necessarily imply the sale is inside a garage. From [http://www.webster.com Webster.com]:
Main Entry: '''garage sale''' 
Function: noun
: a sale of used household or personal articles (as furniture, tools, or clothing) held on the seller's own premises - [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

====Aunt Gert====
Aunt Gert being sold for 22½¢ could be because she was used in sb_email 22 when Strongbad was making fun of the English.

*'''Um, hang on a sec...''' Come now, Spud Jr. What would Spud Sr. think if he saw your repulsive grammar, "could be say she". I seriously suggest to whoever posted this to listen to some serious Strong Bad Rhythm 'N Grammar, and then get some serious Clown Care, man. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 2 2005
*'''That's funny,''' Cheatachu. But we don't actually have to vote on this, do we? If we do, I'll bet one can guess what my vote would be. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:10, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait... there's a connection?''' Really. I don't even come close to seeing it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 00:25, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait, is there a decline'''. Why, my young lad, I believe there is 4. And, if it were to be used in an email 22.5, that would mean it would have had to occur BETWEEN email 22 and 23. Plus, unless I'm mistaken,the doll was supposed to sell for $.25 -- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 00:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept..wait no! You turned that all around on me!''' I think this has potential to be the worst fun fact ever submitted. Ever. EVER. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**"This is pretty much the worst video ever made." "Napoleon, like anyone can even know that."
*'''DECLORNED!''' Actually, the "it's 25 CENTS" thing would be fine, if it made sense. Because the RQ Box-boat costs $1.04, for email $104. But still this Fun Fact is extremely stupid, but not as stupid about the one saying Sterrence was a reference to Terrance and Bloo. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 01:48, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Wait! Maybe TBC have sent a secret message telling us that there's an as-of-yet undiscovered Easter Egg in ... awww, never mind! '''Declined.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I sense an early verdict for this one. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' i just dont know why we have to vote anymore it shoud be verdicted!!! --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 07:37, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Because it's not May 16.
***Who cares? This one never should have been STUFF'd in the first place, just outright delorted. Its horrible! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Worst... fun fact... ever. '''Declete.''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 19:51, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*Ooh! Ooh! I think I finally figured out what they meant. They meant Aunt Gert may have featured in the fictitious email that was banned in the UK, not the sbemail_22 that we see on the site today. All the same, it's just speculation. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 04:26, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*[[Image:DECLINED!.JPG]] - [[User:Technochocolate|T.C.]]
** Er... no offense, but I think that picture is only going to serve to make this cluttered page worse... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 15:48, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What in the...Declined!''' Was Aunt Gert even ''IN'' that email?! I don't think so. -Walking Armless
*'''Fugget it''' Who cares? I mean, really.-Alice

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====Legless====
Strong bad is legless when he says "Up-up-up! Moms only!" in the easter egg in the swf.

*'''Decline''' I don't really think this is a goof since you can only see it in the .swf... and he doesn't say "up-up-up"[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 20:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:40, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Third''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 07:38, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This one isn't even worth voting on. We have a long-standing policy that missing body parts ''outside the Flash frame'' are neither glitches nor goofs. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declorned''' Goofs in the flash file don't count [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Comment.''' This isn't a goof at any level. I'm no animator, but I certaintly wouldn't waste time on legs if I knew they'd never been seen! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:26, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*Let's draw the line. Some things just aren't worth pointing out. '''Delete''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 19:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''BOOO''' You can say the same thing for, oh, every H*R cartoon ever made. The Brothers Chaps don't bother animating body parts that don't show up anyway - what would be the point? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 01:25, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Have you seen the "Making of" for big Hollywood movies? Like how the sets are all sort of half-done? Wow, a lot of those directors must have goofed really badly when they forgot to build the sets where the camera's never going to point at them... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''adu adu adu adu adudududiggadiggadiggadiggaDECLINED!!!''' normally I wouldn't be this harsh, but this is just "really dumb and bad." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:48, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*[[Image:DECLINED!.JPG]] - [[User:Technochocolate|T.C.]] (Prepare to see this a lot.)
**Um, you should really just vote normally. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:50, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
::Yes, you should. In fact, I'm deleting this picture right now. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Um, like totally declined'''Wasn't he, like, just sticking his head into the scene? I think you're looking a little too hard for a goof.-Alice

===[[Senor Mortgage]]===
====Potential reference====
The phone number 555-55-55855-55-5-SENOR-MORT-GAGE-TODAY could be a potential reference to a phone number in [[wikipedia:The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy|The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy]], which is 1-555-55-5-55555-555-5555.
*'''Decline.''' The whole point of the bit was to lampoon poorly made advertisments run in the middle of the day when few people are watching TV. These commercials typically end in some anoyingly [[wikipedia:jingle|catchy jingle]] that includes the toll- free phone number, which more often than not has the name of the business embedded among a series of repeating or sequential numbers. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 11:30, 2 May 2005 (PDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:34, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' "Potential reference"! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Agh! "Could be"! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:33, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' If it's a could be, then it's not really a fun fact. It's just guessing. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:46, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*The too long phone number gag is not exclusive to ''Hitchhikers''. '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declined''' One is not a reference to the other. Both are a seperately reference to the fact that in old movies, phone numbers always started with 555- (since no area in the US at that time had that prefix). Another words, it's a coincidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:42, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This fun fact is OVERRR!!!''' Seriously, "could-be's" are not cool. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deep-42'd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:32, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''TWO'nd!'''As much as I like H2G2, I have to disagree. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:06, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED! - [[User:Technochocolate|T.C.]]
*'''2nd'd!''' How thick can you get? "This is a potential reference to HG2G" was an example of a pathstic fun fact!!-Alice

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

*Someone keeps adding this to the page, and it keeps getting taken off, I thought it would be more appropriate here. Personally I'm ambivalent about it, what do you think? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:56, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It's not written in NPOV. I suppose I was being a little stubborn about it, though. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:24, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Howabouts: "In [[your friends]], he comments that it is "the best email I have ever recieved." However he doesn't mention it as one of his favorites here" --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:41, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' Both of you are right, I should have been more careful of wording. -- SBEmail22 12:45 AM, 3 May 2005 (EST)
*I don't think it was TBC intention for Strong Bad's comment to be official. Doesn't he also claim that The Basics is his favorite e-mail? Most of the e-mails in ''Favorites'' were made up anyway. '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:38, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 11:33, 2 May 2005 (PDT)
**'''.dnoceS''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Actually, in "your friends," SB said that the email he received was the best. In "personal favorites," he's talking about the entire email shows. There's a difference. Even if there wasn't, I still think this fun fact is too sketchy to be desired. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 01:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**"This is the best" implies favorite. Thats all I'm sayin'.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' He loves all his emails like his childrens. Thus, picking certain emails should not make us think that he really values them more than those not mentioned. Or are you calling Strong Bad an unloving father?? or.. mother? or.. ew! [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 05:33, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree. If that were the case, logically he wouldn't have answered that e-mail, or he wouldn't have stated what his favorites were. -- SBEmail22 1:59 AM, 3 May 2005 (EST)
***'''Comment.''' I disagree with your disagreement. That is the case, because logically he said so. Those were (close to) his exact words. His disclaimer was pretty much designed to discourage people from thinking that he was splitting emails into 2 classes.
* WASSUP! I '''DECLINE'''. Strong Bad has a record of being rather indecisive about his favorite email. [[your friends]], [[the basics]], and the fake emails from [[personal favorites]] have all been named his favorites... I think it will always be a mystery. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:50, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE!''' This is a cartoon! Inconsitencies are okay and really dont have to be singled out and noted. Besides, the whole "this is the best email I've ever recieved" line is purely for effect, not necesarily as a real comment. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:51, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

*'''Accept''' All the links in the chain seem to be true, and even if it's not why TBC used that particular reference it's still an interesting fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Even if it is true, it has no place on the EF page. Thats a Pixies fact not a Homestar Runner one. [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.
*'''And this fact should possibly be DECLINED!''' Possibly...puh. Proof. Wheres your proof? [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Say it ain't so! I thought for sure it was a Gillette Mach 3 referrence! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:41, 2 May 2005
*'''Standing too close to you in DECLINE''' Just cuz he shaves does not mean he references a singled-out movie involving a shaving person. Does your dad ever go "hey honey, look at me, look, I'm shaving, just like in that one movie!" --[user: Lappy 486] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:06, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

*... which is in turn a reference to fans everywhere referring to every new episode of everything as the "worst ever". Even the same thing happens on the Emails board here, every email is the worst ever to someone. Besides, he's just complaining that the commentary isn't going to plan. "Worst ever" is a common enough phrase, it doesn't have to be a reference. '''Decline''' --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
* If he said it "Worst commentary ever" like Comic book guy (I'm talking about tone of voice) would say it then yes, yes it would be a reference. But he didn't, so '''decline''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the declines before this one and all the ones sure to follow. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACSEPd''' he DID say it with the same rythm worst #stop# comimisairy #stop# ever [[User:Ganome|Ganome]]
*'''DECLINE'D!!!''' I doubt it...and c'mon, you people know that best/worst something ever is a running gag on H*R. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:55, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

*'''Decline''' Even if true, does this belong here? Given TBC didn't write the song and all... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Try posting it here [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Interpretations:Experimental_Film] instead. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 5:37 May 2 2005
*'''Maybe, but still decline''' The line sounds more whimsical than reference-y to me. [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Moonwatcher had no witty comment to add ... but he would think of something. --- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Even if it was, this isn't the place to write it. TMBG didn't write the song just for h*r, it's their song. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:09, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

*'''Decline''' The ATM and Keen have nothing else in common that suggests this might be a reference... besides, Keen's helmet has a green and white stripe, not a blue one. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' Yeah, I thought that at first, but it's not really the same. [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 13:28, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second, third, whatever''' Huh, I didn't notice that the stripe was not the right color. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 23:31, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Sometimes a football helmet is just ... awww, never mind! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[current status]]===
====Send In The Clown====
[[Wikipedia:Ronald McDonald|Ronald McDonald]] is the clown mascot for McDonald's.

*'''Comment.''' This one has been added and deleted about X0 times. Rather than waste valuable mission time, I STUFFed it. Allez cuisine! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Still Decline''' <s>What the crap?! This website is about '''Homestar''', not McDonalds. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:23, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)</s> My bad...but it's still ''waaaaaaay'' too obvious. ''{Starts singing Everyobody Knows It}''... --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:34, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Ah '''still decline!''' You're getting more popular as the days go on! Yeah, '''decline'''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' Remember the context. Coach B complains about his "clown feet" then grumbles something about "Ronald McDonald." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:29, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Decline.''' I'm always amazed by what people ''don't'' know, but ... something tells me that ol' Ron is pretty well known the world over! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:32, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, and I don't like to reject outside references on the basis of being too obvious. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:24, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:55, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''I'm gonna second that.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:14, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Well I do. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 27 Apr
*'''DUH! cline''' Me too. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:45, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Do you want '''decline''' with that? Sorry, this falls under the category of "so obvious (insert name here) could see it." --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Is this one of those '''declined''' fun facts? Like the ones that Moms and off-shore casinos post?.-- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 18:07, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Hey! A reference is a reference. Obvious or not! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:02, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But it's ''too'' obvious! I quote "but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them" from the things that make good fun facts. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:11, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Hey! Did you know tha Pikachu is a Pokemon?!? C'mon folks, this fact isn't like the Four Armed Grimace reference. People already know who Ronald is. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***You're using the example from the top of the STUFF page, but it's a bad example (and really should be changed). Many people, myself included, have no real idea what a Pokemon is, even less who Pikachu is.
***I think enough people do know that it doesn't have to be listed. No matter how well known something is there will ALWAYS be someone who doesn't know about it. That doesn't mean we need to explain each and every reference. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' The philosophy that nothing is too obvious does not work. If Jesus appeared in a cartoon it would be ridiculous to make a fact about him. Even though (as far as I know) Ronald McDonald isn't religiously worshipped by millions over the world, he ''is'' extremely and widely well known. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:13, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''', I mean, do you want me to add "Homestar Runner is a popular web cartoon" or "The language primary used in this email is 'English', named after an island dwelling European nation" as fun facts to every cartoon? There is a fun fact describing brunswick stew in new boots, does that mean we need one describing biscuit dough in the jail cartoon?
***I mean, do you want me to ask you to sign your vote? Or do you want me to say SIGN YOUR VOTE.? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:11, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
****I think there are enough declines for this fact that he doesn't have to. Still doesn't count though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Quote:'''(but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)are you telling me that not everybody will already recognize this? --[[user:Lappy 486]] today at now
**This is still a horrible example. Who the heck is Pikachu? What the heck is a Pokémon? (I guess if they were [[Wikipedia:Pikachu|linked]], I could go over to Wikipedia and find out, but apparently the reference is too obvious for that. Believe it or not, not everybody knows everything about pop culture, and valid real-world references deserve links.)
'''Decline'd''' Ok on these facts I try to be nice (no matter how little I comment on these facts), but this is just sad. You might as well put "'Pickle' is a word"! Seriously man, either get a point to this or get rid of it. ~[[user:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral'''So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
====Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F====
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fun fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined''' by a score of 4-12. Discussion moved to [[Talk:trevor the vampire]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:34, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Oolong's Namesake====
Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for [[Combolations]] in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or [[Wikipedia:Oolong (rabbit)|Oolong the rabbit]], whose owner is Japanese.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====MikeMike And Matt Rock====

The credits for Mike Rock and MattMatt are references to [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt Chapman]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Li'l Brudder Show]]===

====Ugly Animation====
The animation resembles the work of [[Wikipedia:Klasky Csupo|Klasky Csupo]] (most famous for [[Wikipedia:Rugrats|Rugrats]]), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Things are lookin' up!====

The title of the page and Lil' Brudder's line at the end of the toon "Things are lookin' up!" is probably a reference to the Gershwin song of the same name. (Incidentally, there's also a line in the song that says "I'm happy as a pup.")[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:00, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[dangeresque 3]]===
====Constantinople?====

The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined'''. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:dangeresque 3]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:21, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[rampage]]===

====Jammin'====
"Number one jam" is possibly a reference to [[time capsule]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

*'''I'm not gonna write a "Declined" joke this week...''' Ryu was the first thing that came to mind when I saw this email, however since there's so many things it could be a reference to (just search the web for "RyGuy") it's not certain. Either pick one and prove it, or this is textbook TTATOT --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:41, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' "RyGuy" is a nickname for Ryan, not a reference to anything. I happen to have a friend named Ryan, who a lot of people call "RyGuy". Do I go around saying "Is that a reference to...?!" No, I don't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:54, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====limozeen====
Limozeen: But they're in space is almost a direct reference to the flopped saturday morning show Josie and the Pussy Cats in space.

'''Verdict:''' A fact very much like this went through the STUFF process and was '''Declined'''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:57, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

*Keep '''Mr. Mxyzptlk''' and '''The Great Gazoo'''. Scrap the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' The "Great Gazoo" bit is DEFINITELY a reference as the cartoon is a parody of Hanna Barbera cartoons. I'm not so certain about Mr. Mxyzptlk, but I do agree that it's a valid reference. However, I think Gazoo should come first, as per the Flintstones parody. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Just did a little checking - Gazoo first appeared in 1964, while Mr. Mxyzptlk first appeared in 1987, as did Q (on the pilot of ST:TNG). Gazoo should be first in the fact as he's first chronologically, and while I'm still iffy about Mxyzptlk being included, seeing as how the title of the episode "Encounter at Groupulon 5" is a reference to the pilot of ST:TNG, I think the Q reference is definitely valid. Mighty Max is a huge stretch, though the hat and the "muddle me twice" line definitely seem to point to a Riddler reference. John Bozar seems to be an amalgam of all of them - this may be a TTATOT fact, but for once, there's a basis for it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' According to Wikipedia, [[Wikipedia:Mr._Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]] was introduced in 1944. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Comment.''' My bad - I didn't realize he was THAT old. Curse the internet for diseminating false information! In any case, I still think he's an amalgam of Mxyzptlk, Gazoo, Q, and Riddler - but then we get into TTATOT territory. Still, with this being an OBVIOUS Hanna Barbera parody, I think Gazoo should take precedence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:25, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I thought we'd already declined this TTATOT fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:50, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment and Decline''' Actually Jay, I think we declined the fact about the guy with the metal jaw, not Bozar. Which brings up my point. All of the references for the metal jaw fact were declined. I see no reason that this should be any different. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:31, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====The bouncing ball====

When Coach Z bounces the basketball, it sounds like a dodgeball instead of a basketball.

*'''Decline''' a bounce is a bounce [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Accept.''' First thing I thought of when I heard the bounce. TBC needs a new Foley artist! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:07, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''This was under "goofs" wasn't it? Gads, I hate facts like this. Its a sound effect, so who cares? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It may sound like a dodge ball, but in the DVD, when Mike Chapman is going against Homestar in Basketball, that's how their basketball sounds. [[User:Snailmail|Snailmail]]

====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:20, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:33, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====Face the Camera====
This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally The Brothers Chaps keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.

*'''Decline.''' "One of the..." Is a no-no. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 13:03, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You being threatened with a DECLINE''' I don't think this is even worthy of being noticed, it is stupid. >:P --[[User: Lappy 486]] 8:00 Apr 26

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** kerrek, vote in your post correctly, or your signature doesn't count.
*** anony, stfu with your sarcasm correctly, or your misplaced humor doesn't count. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 08:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Everybody, shuttup, or this fist in your face will count, at... breaking... your teeeth..
BTW, '''Declined''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Slippers ====
Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:16, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:19, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless
**'''Decline for the pudgy.''' What the armless guy said. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' I think that is just Homsar-ness. --[[User:Lappy 486]]

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1 after several weeks of voting, this item is accepted. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

'''Verdict:''' After many weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' as the re-written version below. The re-write now appears on [[animal]], and the discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 22:34, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:27, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:03, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:53, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:51, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

*'''Accept.''' It says "ages 3-5" quite clearly at the bottom right of each action figure package. Why was this STUFF-ed? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 03:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Does this really need to be noted at all? I mean, it *is* right there on the package! I haven't changed my vote yet, but ... -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:44, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''What? Undelete it! Undelete it!''' Do something! Do anything! *ahem* Accept. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:23, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Oy. Come on, people...not every Fun Fact needs to be here. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:29, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to be the one to do this when everyone else is accepting, but...SO? I mean, what's your point? '''Decline.''' --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:48, 28 Apr 2005
*'''Accept but move''' to the [[Cheat Commandos Commercial#The Cheat Commandos (and their package captions)|package captions]] list at the bottom of that page. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:27, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:24, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' by a score of 4-2. The fact has been re-posted on [[Strong Sad's Lament]], and the discussion can be found on [[Talk:Strong Sad's Lament]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
===Peacy Prize===
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

*'''Accept.''' Uh... why was this stuffed? Unless people think it's too obvious? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:13, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' I suppose, but does every joke need to be explained? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*When was the last time I '''accepted''' something? I've seen more obvious Real-world refs. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:34, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*It is too obvious, but STUFFing it was unnecessary. '''Accept.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:28, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Well, good to see people agree with me, but I just thought that since that Hoofton-Mifflin joke was very obvious, but it was still Fun Fact'd, so I just thought this shoudl be to. I guess I'll be adding that now. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:59 Apr 27 2005 (EMT)
*'''Decline.''' The only difference between "Nobel Peace Prize" and "Nobel Peacey Prize" is the letter "y". Way too obvious. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 00:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh come on, Gafaddict, you gotta do better than that. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***Whee. You typed my username correctly. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 05:42, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Real-world references should be linked, no matter how obscure or obvious. (The spelling, however, needs to be fixed. Strong Bad says "Noble," not "Nobel," and "Peacy" is spelled differently in the transcript.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:17, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

===Bushes===
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

*'''Decline.''' It's not very interesting or fun. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:13, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*....uh, who cares? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Didn't notice. Didn't care. Didn't accept. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Bonk|Bonk]]
*'''Decline.''' It's just too stupid. -Walking Armless

==Games==
===[[Thy Dungeonman]]===
====Earthbound====
Dungeonman might be a reference to Brick Road from "Earthbound," who was attempting to attain the title of "Dungeonman" throughout the course of the game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Thy Dungeonman]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:40, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===
====Two names?====
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.
*'''Decline''' It's too general. Similarity =/= reference. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:18, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And [[action figure]] is Strong Bad email #42 that could be a referance to ''the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'' '''Decline!''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' I betcha if we try hard enough we can turn this into a TMBG reference. They know TBC y'know. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:54, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting this item was unanimously declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:53, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

'''Verdict:''' After several weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 23:09, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:24, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:26, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:27, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:30, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Black Spots====
Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:30, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Rose Blake====
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

*'''Double Decliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiined!''' Seriously, can we stop stretching Fun Facts as far as they can possibly be stretched? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Slightly like? Oh, man! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:55, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline for the pudgy! Decline for the pudgy!''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 28 Apr 2005
*'''Gimme a D-cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:22, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Stlunko====
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.
*'''Decline.''' If this isn't a TTATOT, I don't know what is. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:19, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''', you're not trying hard enough - I'm sure you could think of lots more bosses that involve fists somehow if you tried... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:29, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I usually like these kind of Fun Facts, but it sounds like you're just not trying here. Pick one. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:08, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***Well, if '''I''' had to pick one, I'd definitely pick the first one; it's what the original one stated, and mentioning only that wouldn't be such a TTATOT. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 02:23, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. --[[User:15.235.153.95|15.235.153.95]] 18:13, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I'd agree with you, but there's proof that says otherwise.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:11, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I just read the [http://www.wtfiml33t.com/viewarticle.php?artid=59&page=1 article] mentioned above. No ''intentional'' homage mentioned! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:48, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).
*What?! This is just random speculation trying to connect random words randomly. Thus, this deserves to get a '''Random Decline.''' --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:16, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:30, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm the one who wrote this fact, and think it's more likely than Homestar confusing Marzipan with Strong Sad. Why not '''Rewrite''' it? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 15:14, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**Because it doesn't make any sense? I don't think he's confusing Marzipan with Strong Sad and I don't think your explanation works either. It's just randomness. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:56, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*This deserves to be '''deleted''' at once. '''DECLINE!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:41, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*OK, I rewrote myself. Now does it make sense? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:56, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Ummmm, what I think some of us are tryin' to say here is that we don't believe there's any connection between Homestar's utterance and Strong Sad. IMHO, no amount of rewriting is gonna change that. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second''' I'll have what he's having, with a side order of '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:44, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
****'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:47, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Jay, didn't you already vote? BTW, '''DECLINE.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:11, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===
==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1, this item is declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:The discussion can be found at the [[HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts_Archive#Parents_.28declined.29|STUFF Archive]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:57, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005

===[[sugarbob]]===
==== In correlation with another STUFF'D fun fact ====
One of Strong Bad's "girlfriends" types "LMAO." The A stands for a mildly offensive swear word. This is the second reference to swearing on the site. (The first was Strong Bad typing "What the f" in trevor the vampire.)

*'''Decline.''' So what? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:49, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is the second time? Ack! I usually kills these things before they can get STUFF-ed. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:42, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:46, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You, my friend, just bought yourself a decline''' Come on. It's bad enough when we have to vote on the "What the f" fact. I strongly doubt this is really the second time - and even if it is, who cares? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:36, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' "Damn," "Hell" and even "Friggin'" could also be considered swears by some, and these are used a on the site. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''third''' in the egg in [[comic]] there is a 45 of Mudhoney's "You Stupid Asshole" [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 00:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''' I like the first 2 sentences. everything after that can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:30
*God, why are people so (censored) obsessed with catolouging every blasted thing in the HR universe? Its bad enough there are facts like "This is the first time Marzipan raises an eyebrow". Jeez, '''Decline so hard you'd think there were two of 'em'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' thats all i can say '''Decline Decline Decline!''' i mean whats the point yo?!? --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 07:31, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinate without pizzaz and JAM!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 09:46, 4 May 2005 (CST)
** Best decline ever. They tell me not to, but I still '''seconds''' it! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 15:01, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Surprisingly, "crap" is also a mildly offensive swear word. Shall we count those too when we see whether this is the 2nd or not? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 16:13, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*Who cares? </carl> '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 19:54, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-clined.''' [[User:Bonk|Bonk]]
*If the trevor the vampire one gets declined, this one should be too. '''Pom-Pom! And! Strong Bad! Are! Totally! Declining!''' --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:50, 6 May 2005
*Yeah, DECLINE. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:11, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Toons! Games! Characters! Declines!''' First two sentences are both true, and obvious, while the third is completely untrue. The stuff in brackets has also been decided, and that's declined as well. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] <tt>([[User talk:Venusy|Talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Venusy|Contributions]])</tt>, 14:22, 7 May 2005 (BST)
*It's not <strike>Accept</strike> because HERE COMES THE '''Decline'''inkaman!
*'''Seconding All of the Declines''' Everything has already been said, and there are so many reasons that this shouldn't be on the site, it's insane. I hope they get rid of this one fast. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:37 May 8, 2005

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

*'''Decline''' Why oh why someone thought this was trivia boggles the mind. There is nothing to this "fact". She raised an eyebrow, whoopdie do. Trivia implies that someone will actually find the information interesting, nobody cares about facial expressions unless it somehow reveals something about the character (in the case of Strong Bad, it'd show that he actually has eyebrows). This just encourages the posting of worthless facts. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Then again, have we ever seen Marzipan have eyebrows?

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

*'''NO'D!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nay''' [[User:71.110.2.216|71.110.2.216]] 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:08, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. There's nothing more to say. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

*'''Accept.''' Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' Garage sales aren't in garages. They're called garage sales because one usually sells the old junk that's been sitting in one's garage. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Utterly useless fun fact. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''--[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 18:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Garage sale, yard sale, they can be used interchangably. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''. Garage sale is a colloquialism. It doesn't mean that the sale has to happen ''in'' the garage. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' The garage sales I've seen actually take place in garages. I won't be sad though if this fact gets voted down. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' What he said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 04:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:21, May 8 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this obvious, but also the term "garage sale" is a blanket term, and doesn't necessarily imply the sale is inside a garage. From [http://www.dictionary.com Dictionary.com]:
Main Entry: '''garage sale''' 
Function: noun
: a sale of used household or personal articles (as furniture, tools, or clothing) held on the seller's own premises - [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

====Aunt Gert====
Aunt Gert being sold for 22½¢ could be because she was used in sb_email 22 when Strongbad was making fun of the English.

*'''Um, hang on a sec...''' Come now, Spud Jr. What would Spud Sr. think if he saw your repulsive grammar, "could be say she". I seriously suggest to whoever posted this to listen to some serious Strong Bad Rhythm 'N Grammar, and then get some serious Clown Care, man. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 2 2005
*'''That's funny,''' Cheatachu. But we don't actually have to vote on this, do we? If we do, I'll bet one can guess what my vote would be. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:10, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait... there's a connection?''' Really. I don't even come close to seeing it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 00:25, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait, is there a decline'''. Why, my young lad, I believe there is 4. And, if it were to be used in an email 22.5, that would mean it would have had to occur BETWEEN email 22 and 23. Plus, unless I'm mistaken,the doll was supposed to sell for $.25 -- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 00:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept..wait no! You turned that all around on me!''' I think this has potential to be the worst fun fact ever submitted. Ever. EVER. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**"This is pretty much the worst video ever made." "Napoleon, like anyone can even know that."
*'''DECLORNED!''' Actually, the "it's 25 CENTS" thing would be fine, if it made sense. Because the RQ Box-boat costs $1.04, for email $104. But still this Fun Fact is extremely stupid, but not as stupid about the one saying Sterrence was a reference to Terrance and Bloo. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 01:48, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Wait! Maybe TBC have sent a secret message telling us that there's an as-of-yet undiscovered Easter Egg in ... awww, never mind! '''Declined.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I sense an early verdict for this one. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' i just dont know why we have to vote anymore it shoud be verdicted!!! --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 07:37, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Because it's not May 16.
***Who cares? This one never should have been STUFF'd in the first place, just outright delorted. Its horrible! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Worst... fun fact... ever. '''Declete.''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 19:51, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*Ooh! Ooh! I think I finally figured out what they meant. They meant Aunt Gert may have featured in the fictitious email that was banned in the UK, not the sbemail_22 that we see on the site today. All the same, it's just speculation. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 04:26, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*[[Image:DECLINED!.JPG]] - [[User:Technochocolate|T.C.]]
** Er... no offense, but I think that picture is only going to serve to make this cluttered page worse... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 15:48, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What in the...Declined!''' Was Aunt Gert even ''IN'' that email?! I don't think so. -Walking Armless
*'''Fugget it''' Who cares? I mean, really.-Alice

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====Legless====
Strong bad is legless when he says "Up-up-up! Moms only!" in the easter egg in the swf.

*'''Decline''' I don't really think this is a goof since you can only see it in the .swf... and he doesn't say "up-up-up"[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 20:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:40, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Third''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 07:38, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This one isn't even worth voting on. We have a long-standing policy that missing body parts ''outside the Flash frame'' are neither glitches nor goofs. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declorned''' Goofs in the flash file don't count [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Comment.''' This isn't a goof at any level. I'm no animator, but I certaintly wouldn't waste time on legs if I knew they'd never been seen! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:26, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*Let's draw the line. Some things just aren't worth pointing out. '''Delete''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 19:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''BOOO''' You can say the same thing for, oh, every H*R cartoon ever made. The Brothers Chaps don't bother animating body parts that don't show up anyway - what would be the point? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 01:25, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Have you seen the "Making of" for big Hollywood movies? Like how the sets are all sort of half-done? Wow, a lot of those directors must have goofed really badly when they forgot to build the sets where the camera's never going to point at them... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''adu adu adu adu adudududiggadiggadiggadiggaDECLINED!!!''' normally I wouldn't be this harsh, but this is just "really dumb and bad." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:48, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*[[Image:DECLINED!.JPG]] - [[User:Technochocolate|T.C.]] (Prepare to see this a lot.)
**Um, you should really just vote normally. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:50, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
::Yes, you should. In fact, I'm deleting this picture right now. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Um, like totally declined'''Wasn't he, like, just sticking his head into the scene? I think you're looking a little too hard for a goof.-Alice

===[[Senor Mortgage]]===
====Potential reference====
The phone number 555-55-55855-55-5-SENOR-MORT-GAGE-TODAY could be a potential reference to a phone number in [[wikipedia:The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy|The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy]], which is 1-555-55-5-55555-555-5555.
*'''Decline.''' The whole point of the bit was to lampoon poorly made advertisments run in the middle of the day when few people are watching TV. These commercials typically end in some anoyingly [[wikipedia:jingle|catchy jingle]] that includes the toll- free phone number, which more often than not has the name of the business embedded among a series of repeating or sequential numbers. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 11:30, 2 May 2005 (PDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:34, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' "Potential reference"! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Agh! "Could be"! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:33, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' If it's a could be, then it's not really a fun fact. It's just guessing. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:46, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*The too long phone number gag is not exclusive to ''Hitchhikers''. '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declined''' One is not a reference to the other. Both are a seperately reference to the fact that in old movies, phone numbers always started with 555- (since no area in the US at that time had that prefix). Another words, it's a coincidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:42, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This fun fact is OVERRR!!!''' Seriously, "could-be's" are not cool. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deep-42'd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:32, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''TWO'nd!'''As much as I like H2G2, I have to disagree. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:06, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED! - [[User:Technochocolate|T.C.]]
*'''2nd'd!''' How thick can you get? "This is a potential reference to HG2G" was an example of a pathstic fun fact!!-Alice

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

*Someone keeps adding this to the page, and it keeps getting taken off, I thought it would be more appropriate here. Personally I'm ambivalent about it, what do you think? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:56, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It's not written in NPOV. I suppose I was being a little stubborn about it, though. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:24, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Howabouts: "In [[your friends]], he comments that it is "the best email I have ever recieved." However he doesn't mention it as one of his favorites here" --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:41, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' Both of you are right, I should have been more careful of wording. -- SBEmail22 12:45 AM, 3 May 2005 (EST)
*I don't think it was TBC intention for Strong Bad's comment to be official. Doesn't he also claim that The Basics is his favorite e-mail? Most of the e-mails in ''Favorites'' were made up anyway. '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:38, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 11:33, 2 May 2005 (PDT)
**'''.dnoceS''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Actually, in "your friends," SB said that the email he received was the best. In "personal favorites," he's talking about the entire email shows. There's a difference. Even if there wasn't, I still think this fun fact is too sketchy to be desired. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 01:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**"This is the best" implies favorite. Thats all I'm sayin'.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' He loves all his emails like his childrens. Thus, picking certain emails should not make us think that he really values them more than those not mentioned. Or are you calling Strong Bad an unloving father?? or.. mother? or.. ew! [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 05:33, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree. If that were the case, logically he wouldn't have answered that e-mail, or he wouldn't have stated what his favorites were. -- SBEmail22 1:59 AM, 3 May 2005 (EST)
***'''Comment.''' I disagree with your disagreement. That is the case, because logically he said so. Those were (close to) his exact words. His disclaimer was pretty much designed to discourage people from thinking that he was splitting emails into 2 classes.
* WASSUP! I '''DECLINE'''. Strong Bad has a record of being rather indecisive about his favorite email. [[your friends]], [[the basics]], and the fake emails from [[personal favorites]] have all been named his favorites... I think it will always be a mystery. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:50, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE!''' This is a cartoon! Inconsitencies are okay and really dont have to be singled out and noted. Besides, the whole "this is the best email I've ever recieved" line is purely for effect, not necesarily as a real comment. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:51, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

*'''Accept''' All the links in the chain seem to be true, and even if it's not why TBC used that particular reference it's still an interesting fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Even if it is true, it has no place on the EF page. Thats a Pixies fact not a Homestar Runner one. [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.
*'''And this fact should possibly be DECLINED!''' Possibly...puh. Proof. Wheres your proof? [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Say it ain't so! I thought for sure it was a Gillette Mach 3 referrence! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:41, 2 May 2005
*'''Standing too close to you in DECLINE''' Just cuz he shaves does not mean he references a singled-out movie involving a shaving person. Does your dad ever go "hey honey, look at me, look, I'm shaving, just like in that one movie!" --[user: Lappy 486] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:06, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

*... which is in turn a reference to fans everywhere referring to every new episode of everything as the "worst ever". Even the same thing happens on the Emails board here, every email is the worst ever to someone. Besides, he's just complaining that the commentary isn't going to plan. "Worst ever" is a common enough phrase, it doesn't have to be a reference. '''Decline''' --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
* If he said it "Worst commentary ever" like Comic book guy (I'm talking about tone of voice) would say it then yes, yes it would be a reference. But he didn't, so '''decline''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the declines before this one and all the ones sure to follow. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACSEPd''' he DID say it with the same rythm worst #stop# comimisairy #stop# ever [[User:Ganome|Ganome]]
*'''DECLINE'D!!!''' I doubt it...and c'mon, you people know that best/worst something ever is a running gag on H*R. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:55, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

*'''Decline''' Even if true, does this belong here? Given TBC didn't write the song and all... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Try posting it here [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Interpretations:Experimental_Film] instead. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 5:37 May 2 2005
*'''Maybe, but still decline''' The line sounds more whimsical than reference-y to me. [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Moonwatcher had no witty comment to add ... but he would think of something. --- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Even if it was, this isn't the place to write it. TMBG didn't write the song just for h*r, it's their song. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:09, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

*'''Decline''' The ATM and Keen have nothing else in common that suggests this might be a reference... besides, Keen's helmet has a green and white stripe, not a blue one. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' Yeah, I thought that at first, but it's not really the same. [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 13:28, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second, third, whatever''' Huh, I didn't notice that the stripe was not the right color. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 23:31, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Sometimes a football helmet is just ... awww, never mind! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[current status]]===
====Send In The Clown====
[[Wikipedia:Ronald McDonald|Ronald McDonald]] is the clown mascot for McDonald's.

*'''Comment.''' This one has been added and deleted about X0 times. Rather than waste valuable mission time, I STUFFed it. Allez cuisine! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Still Decline''' <s>What the crap?! This website is about '''Homestar''', not McDonalds. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:23, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)</s> My bad...but it's still ''waaaaaaay'' too obvious. ''{Starts singing Everyobody Knows It}''... --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:34, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Ah '''still decline!''' You're getting more popular as the days go on! Yeah, '''decline'''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' Remember the context. Coach B complains about his "clown feet" then grumbles something about "Ronald McDonald." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:29, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Decline.''' I'm always amazed by what people ''don't'' know, but ... something tells me that ol' Ron is pretty well known the world over! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:32, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, and I don't like to reject outside references on the basis of being too obvious. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:24, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:55, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''I'm gonna second that.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:14, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Well I do. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 27 Apr
*'''DUH! cline''' Me too. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:45, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Do you want '''decline''' with that? Sorry, this falls under the category of "so obvious (insert name here) could see it." --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Is this one of those '''declined''' fun facts? Like the ones that Moms and off-shore casinos post?.-- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 18:07, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Hey! A reference is a reference. Obvious or not! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:02, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But it's ''too'' obvious! I quote "but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them" from the things that make good fun facts. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:11, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Hey! Did you know tha Pikachu is a Pokemon?!? C'mon folks, this fact isn't like the Four Armed Grimace reference. People already know who Ronald is. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***You're using the example from the top of the STUFF page, but it's a bad example (and really should be changed). Many people, myself included, have no real idea what a Pokemon is, even less who Pikachu is.
***I think enough people do know that it doesn't have to be listed. No matter how well known something is there will ALWAYS be someone who doesn't know about it. That doesn't mean we need to explain each and every reference. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' The philosophy that nothing is too obvious does not work. If Jesus appeared in a cartoon it would be ridiculous to make a fact about him. Even though (as far as I know) Ronald McDonald isn't religiously worshipped by millions over the world, he ''is'' extremely and widely well known. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:13, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''', I mean, do you want me to add "Homestar Runner is a popular web cartoon" or "The language primary used in this email is 'English', named after an island dwelling European nation" as fun facts to every cartoon? There is a fun fact describing brunswick stew in new boots, does that mean we need one describing biscuit dough in the jail cartoon?
***I mean, do you want me to ask you to sign your vote? Or do you want me to say SIGN YOUR VOTE.? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:11, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
****I think there are enough declines for this fact that he doesn't have to. Still doesn't count though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Quote:'''(but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)are you telling me that not everybody will already recognize this? --[[user:Lappy 486]] today at now
**This is still a horrible example. Who the heck is Pikachu? What the heck is a Pokémon? (I guess if they were [[Wikipedia:Pikachu|linked]], I could go over to Wikipedia and find out, but apparently the reference is too obvious for that. Believe it or not, not everybody knows everything about pop culture, and valid real-world references deserve links.)
'''Decline'd''' Ok on these facts I try to be nice (no matter how little I comment on these facts), but this is just sad. You might as well put "'Pickle' is a word"! Seriously man, either get a point to this or get rid of it. ~[[user:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral'''So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
====Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F====
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fun fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined''' by a score of 4-12. Discussion moved to [[Talk:trevor the vampire]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:34, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Oolong's Namesake====
Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for [[Combolations]] in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or [[Wikipedia:Oolong (rabbit)|Oolong the rabbit]], whose owner is Japanese.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====MikeMike And Matt Rock====

The credits for Mike Rock and MattMatt are references to [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt Chapman]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Li'l Brudder Show]]===

====Ugly Animation====
The animation resembles the work of [[Wikipedia:Klasky Csupo|Klasky Csupo]] (most famous for [[Wikipedia:Rugrats|Rugrats]]), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Things are lookin' up!====

The title of the page and Lil' Brudder's line at the end of the toon "Things are lookin' up!" is probably a reference to the Gershwin song of the same name. (Incidentally, there's also a line in the song that says "I'm happy as a pup.")[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:00, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[dangeresque 3]]===
====Constantinople?====

The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined'''. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:dangeresque 3]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:21, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[rampage]]===

====Jammin'====
"Number one jam" is possibly a reference to [[time capsule]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

*'''I'm not gonna write a "Declined" joke this week...''' Ryu was the first thing that came to mind when I saw this email, however since there's so many things it could be a reference to (just search the web for "RyGuy") it's not certain. Either pick one and prove it, or this is textbook TTATOT --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:41, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' "RyGuy" is a nickname for Ryan, not a reference to anything. I happen to have a friend named Ryan, who a lot of people call "RyGuy". Do I go around saying "Is that a reference to...?!" No, I don't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:54, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====limozeen====
Limozeen: But they're in space is almost a direct reference to the flopped saturday morning show Josie and the Pussy Cats in space.

'''Verdict:''' A fact very much like this went through the STUFF process and was '''Declined'''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:57, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

*Keep '''Mr. Mxyzptlk''' and '''The Great Gazoo'''. Scrap the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' The "Great Gazoo" bit is DEFINITELY a reference as the cartoon is a parody of Hanna Barbera cartoons. I'm not so certain about Mr. Mxyzptlk, but I do agree that it's a valid reference. However, I think Gazoo should come first, as per the Flintstones parody. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Just did a little checking - Gazoo first appeared in 1964, while Mr. Mxyzptlk first appeared in 1987, as did Q (on the pilot of ST:TNG). Gazoo should be first in the fact as he's first chronologically, and while I'm still iffy about Mxyzptlk being included, seeing as how the title of the episode "Encounter at Groupulon 5" is a reference to the pilot of ST:TNG, I think the Q reference is definitely valid. Mighty Max is a huge stretch, though the hat and the "muddle me twice" line definitely seem to point to a Riddler reference. John Bozar seems to be an amalgam of all of them - this may be a TTATOT fact, but for once, there's a basis for it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' According to Wikipedia, [[Wikipedia:Mr._Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]] was introduced in 1944. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Comment.''' My bad - I didn't realize he was THAT old. Curse the internet for diseminating false information! In any case, I still think he's an amalgam of Mxyzptlk, Gazoo, Q, and Riddler - but then we get into TTATOT territory. Still, with this being an OBVIOUS Hanna Barbera parody, I think Gazoo should take precedence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:25, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I thought we'd already declined this TTATOT fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:50, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment and Decline''' Actually Jay, I think we declined the fact about the guy with the metal jaw, not Bozar. Which brings up my point. All of the references for the metal jaw fact were declined. I see no reason that this should be any different. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:31, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====The bouncing ball====

When Coach Z bounces the basketball, it sounds like a dodgeball instead of a basketball.

*'''Decline''' a bounce is a bounce [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Accept.''' First thing I thought of when I heard the bounce. TBC needs a new Foley artist! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:07, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''This was under "goofs" wasn't it? Gads, I hate facts like this. Its a sound effect, so who cares? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It may sound like a dodge ball, but in the DVD, when Mike Chapman is going against Homestar in Basketball, that's how their basketball sounds. [[User:Snailmail|Snailmail]]

====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:20, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:33, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====Face the Camera====
This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally The Brothers Chaps keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.

*'''Decline.''' "One of the..." Is a no-no. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 13:03, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You being threatened with a DECLINE''' I don't think this is even worthy of being noticed, it is stupid. >:P --[[User: Lappy 486]] 8:00 Apr 26

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** kerrek, vote in your post correctly, or your signature doesn't count.
*** anony, stfu with your sarcasm correctly, or your misplaced humor doesn't count. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 08:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Everybody, shuttup, or this fist in your face will count, at... breaking... your teeeth..
BTW, '''Declined''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Slippers ====
Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:16, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:19, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless
**'''Decline for the pudgy.''' What the armless guy said. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' I think that is just Homsar-ness. --[[User:Lappy 486]]

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1 after several weeks of voting, this item is accepted. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

'''Verdict:''' After many weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' as the re-written version below. The re-write now appears on [[animal]], and the discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 22:34, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:27, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:03, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:53, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:51, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

*'''Accept.''' It says "ages 3-5" quite clearly at the bottom right of each action figure package. Why was this STUFF-ed? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 03:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Does this really need to be noted at all? I mean, it *is* right there on the package! I haven't changed my vote yet, but ... -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:44, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''What? Undelete it! Undelete it!''' Do something! Do anything! *ahem* Accept. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:23, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Oy. Come on, people...not every Fun Fact needs to be here. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:29, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to be the one to do this when everyone else is accepting, but...SO? I mean, what's your point? '''Decline.''' --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:48, 28 Apr 2005
*'''Accept but move''' to the [[Cheat Commandos Commercial#The Cheat Commandos (and their package captions)|package captions]] list at the bottom of that page. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:27, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:24, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' by a score of 4-2. The fact has been re-posted on [[Strong Sad's Lament]], and the discussion can be found on [[Talk:Strong Sad's Lament]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
===Peacy Prize===
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

*'''Accept.''' Uh... why was this stuffed? Unless people think it's too obvious? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:13, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' I suppose, but does every joke need to be explained? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*When was the last time I '''accepted''' something? I've seen more obvious Real-world refs. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:34, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*It is too obvious, but STUFFing it was unnecessary. '''Accept.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:28, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Well, good to see people agree with me, but I just thought that since that Hoofton-Mifflin joke was very obvious, but it was still Fun Fact'd, so I just thought this shoudl be to. I guess I'll be adding that now. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:59 Apr 27 2005 (EMT)
*'''Decline.''' The only difference between "Nobel Peace Prize" and "Nobel Peacey Prize" is the letter "y". Way too obvious. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 00:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh come on, Gafaddict, you gotta do better than that. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***Whee. You typed my username correctly. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 05:42, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Real-world references should be linked, no matter how obscure or obvious. (The spelling, however, needs to be fixed. Strong Bad says "Noble," not "Nobel," and "Peacy" is spelled differently in the transcript.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:17, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

===Bushes===
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

*'''Decline.''' It's not very interesting or fun. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:13, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*....uh, who cares? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Didn't notice. Didn't care. Didn't accept. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Bonk|Bonk]]
*'''Decline.''' It's just too stupid. -Walking Armless

==Games==
===[[Thy Dungeonman]]===
====Earthbound====
Dungeonman might be a reference to Brick Road from "Earthbound," who was attempting to attain the title of "Dungeonman" throughout the course of the game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Thy Dungeonman]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:40, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===
====Two names?====
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.
*'''Decline''' It's too general. Similarity =/= reference. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:18, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And [[action figure]] is Strong Bad email #42 that could be a referance to ''the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'' '''Decline!''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' I betcha if we try hard enough we can turn this into a TMBG reference. They know TBC y'know. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:54, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting this item was unanimously declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:53, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

'''Verdict:''' After several weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 23:09, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:24, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:26, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:27, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:30, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Black Spots====
Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:30, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Rose Blake====
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

*'''Double Decliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiined!''' Seriously, can we stop stretching Fun Facts as far as they can possibly be stretched? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Slightly like? Oh, man! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:55, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline for the pudgy! Decline for the pudgy!''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 28 Apr 2005
*'''Gimme a D-cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:22, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Stlunko====
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.
*'''Decline.''' If this isn't a TTATOT, I don't know what is. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:19, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''', you're not trying hard enough - I'm sure you could think of lots more bosses that involve fists somehow if you tried... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:29, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I usually like these kind of Fun Facts, but it sounds like you're just not trying here. Pick one. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:08, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***Well, if '''I''' had to pick one, I'd definitely pick the first one; it's what the original one stated, and mentioning only that wouldn't be such a TTATOT. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 02:23, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. --[[User:15.235.153.95|15.235.153.95]] 18:13, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I'd agree with you, but there's proof that says otherwise.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:11, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I just read the [http://www.wtfiml33t.com/viewarticle.php?artid=59&page=1 article] mentioned above. No ''intentional'' homage mentioned! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:48, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).
*What?! This is just random speculation trying to connect random words randomly. Thus, this deserves to get a '''Random Decline.''' --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:16, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:30, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm the one who wrote this fact, and think it's more likely than Homestar confusing Marzipan with Strong Sad. Why not '''Rewrite''' it? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 15:14, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**Because it doesn't make any sense? I don't think he's confusing Marzipan with Strong Sad and I don't think your explanation works either. It's just randomness. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:56, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*This deserves to be '''deleted''' at once. '''DECLINE!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:41, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*OK, I rewrote myself. Now does it make sense? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:56, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Ummmm, what I think some of us are tryin' to say here is that we don't believe there's any connection between Homestar's utterance and Strong Sad. IMHO, no amount of rewriting is gonna change that. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second''' I'll have what he's having, with a side order of '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:44, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
****'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:47, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Jay, didn't you already vote? BTW, '''DECLINE.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:11, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===
==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1, this item is declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:The discussion can be found at the [[HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts_Archive#Parents_.28declined.29|STUFF Archive]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:57, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2005-05-09T02:42:45Z

DMurphy: /* Not really a garage sale */decline

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]===
====What ladytypes?====
Strong Bad saying The Cheat is stealing his girl might refer when he said The Cheat "somethetimes" steals his "ladytypes" in [[lackey]].

*'''Decline from Oh-hee-oh.''' What ladytypes? The only female I've even seen near him is Marzipan, and she doesn't seem to like him very much. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:58, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''And I don't really like him at all''' And neither do I like this fun fact. People, just because it seems that two jokes are related doesn't mean that they are. Not everything is meant to be an inside reference. If you have to use words like "might be" or "may be", either stuff the fact or don't post it at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DECLiNE.''' There is no reason to make this connection at all. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:06, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[comic]]===
====CORRECTIONED====
the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]

*'''Revise''' Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:25
**'''Second''' It is too long, but does make sense. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*ok fixed [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Proposed Revision:''' the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
*'''I'm...hesitant''' Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg.''' Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''': The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City], "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact''' and then once that happens '''rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")</pre>
*'''Revise''' Possibly:
<pre>The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds" is a
reference to public service announcements like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a
brain tumor every 20 minutes.</pre> I know it's pretty similar to the last one, but I took out some of the words. For this Fun Fact I think that even a couple less words will be better. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] May 8 , 2005

===[[sugarbob]]===
==== In correlation with another STUFF'D fun fact ====
One of Strong Bad's "girlfriends" types "LMAO." The A stands for a mildly offensive swear word. This is the second reference to swearing on the site. (The first was Strong Bad typing "What the f" in trevor the vampire.)

*'''Decline.''' So what? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:49, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is the second time? Ack! I usually kills these things before they can get STUFF-ed. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:42, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:46, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You, my friend, just bought yourself a decline''' Come on. It's bad enough when we have to vote on the "What the f" fact. I strongly doubt this is really the second time - and even if it is, who cares? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:36, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' "Damn," "Hell" and even "Friggin'" could also be considered swears by some, and these are used a on the site. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''third''' in the egg in [[comic]] there is a 45 of Mudhoney's "You Stupid Asshole" [[User:Ganome|Ganome]] 00:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise''' I like the first 2 sentences. everything after that can be discarded. --[[user: Lappy 486]] May 2 9:30
*God, why are people so (censored) obsessed with catolouging every blasted thing in the HR universe? Its bad enough there are facts like "This is the first time Marzipan raises an eyebrow". Jeez, '''Decline so hard you'd think there were two of 'em'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' thats all i can say '''Decline Decline Decline!''' i mean whats the point yo?!? --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 07:31, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinate without pizzaz and JAM!''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 09:46, 4 May 2005 (CST)
** Best decline ever. They tell me not to, but I still '''seconds''' it! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 15:01, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Surprisingly, "crap" is also a mildly offensive swear word. Shall we count those too when we see whether this is the 2nd or not? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 16:13, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*Who cares? </carl> '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 19:54, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-clined.''' [[User:Bonk|Bonk]]
*If the trevor the vampire one gets declined, this one should be too. '''Pom-Pom! And! Strong Bad! Are! Totally! Declining!''' --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:50, 6 May 2005
*Yeah, DECLINE. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:11, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Toons! Games! Characters! Declines!''' First two sentences are both true, and obvious, while the third is completely untrue. The stuff in brackets has also been decided, and that's declined as well. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] <tt>([[User talk:Venusy|Talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Venusy|Contributions]])</tt>, 14:22, 7 May 2005 (BST)
*It's not <strike>Accept</strike> because HERE COMES THE '''Decline'''inkaman!
*'''Seconding All of the Declines''' Everything has already been said, and there are so many reasons that this shouldn't be on the site, it's insane. I hope they get rid of this one fast. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:37 May 8, 2005

===[[garage sale]]===
====Eyebrow?====
This is the first time we see Marzipan raise an eyebrow.

*'''Decline''' Why oh why someone thought this was trivia boggles the mind. There is nothing to this "fact". She raised an eyebrow, whoopdie do. Trivia implies that someone will actually find the information interesting, nobody cares about facial expressions unless it somehow reveals something about the character (in the case of Strong Bad, it'd show that he actually has eyebrows). This just encourages the posting of worthless facts. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Then again, have we ever seen Marzipan have eyebrows?

====The first mother's day toon?====
All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

*'''NO'D!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Second'''--[[User: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nay''' [[User:71.110.2.216|71.110.2.216]] 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline!''' If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 14:08, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. There's nothing more to say. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

====Not really a garage sale====
Technically, it's not a garage sale, as we never see a garage. It's more of a yard sale.

*'''Accept.''' Sounds alright to me. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline.''' Garage sales aren't in garages. They're called garage sales because one usually sells the old junk that's been sitting in one's garage. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Utterly useless fun fact. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:54, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''--[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 18:43, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Garage sale, yard sale, they can be used interchangably. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:56, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second'''. Garage sale is a colloquialism. It doesn't mean that the sale has to happen ''in'' the garage. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' The garage sales I've seen actually take place in garages. I won't be sad though if this fact gets voted down. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' What he said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 04:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 12:21, May 8 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this obvious, but also the term "garage sale" is a blanket term, and doesn't necessarily imply the sale is inside a garage. From [http://www.dictionary.com Dictionary.com]:
Main Entry: '''garage sale''' 
Function: noun
*a sale of used household or personal articles (as furniture, tools, or clothing) held on the seller's own premises
-[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:42, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

====Aunt Gert====
Aunt Gert being sold for 22½¢ could be because she was used in sb_email 22 when Strongbad was making fun of the English.

*'''Um, hang on a sec...''' Come now, Spud Jr. What would Spud Sr. think if he saw your repulsive grammar, "could be say she". I seriously suggest to whoever posted this to listen to some serious Strong Bad Rhythm 'N Grammar, and then get some serious Clown Care, man. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] May 2 2005
*'''That's funny,''' Cheatachu. But we don't actually have to vote on this, do we? If we do, I'll bet one can guess what my vote would be. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:10, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait... there's a connection?''' Really. I don't even come close to seeing it. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 00:25, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait, is there a decline'''. Why, my young lad, I believe there is 4. And, if it were to be used in an email 22.5, that would mean it would have had to occur BETWEEN email 22 and 23. Plus, unless I'm mistaken,the doll was supposed to sell for $.25 -- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 00:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept..wait no! You turned that all around on me!''' I think this has potential to be the worst fun fact ever submitted. Ever. EVER. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**"This is pretty much the worst video ever made." "Napoleon, like anyone can even know that."
*'''DECLORNED!''' Actually, the "it's 25 CENTS" thing would be fine, if it made sense. Because the RQ Box-boat costs $1.04, for email $104. But still this Fun Fact is extremely stupid, but not as stupid about the one saying Sterrence was a reference to Terrance and Bloo. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 01:48, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*Wait! Maybe TBC have sent a secret message telling us that there's an as-of-yet undiscovered Easter Egg in ... awww, never mind! '''Declined.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I sense an early verdict for this one. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' i just dont know why we have to vote anymore it shoud be verdicted!!! --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 07:37, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Because it's not May 16.
***Who cares? This one never should have been STUFF'd in the first place, just outright delorted. Its horrible! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Worst... fun fact... ever. '''Declete.''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 19:51, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*Ooh! Ooh! I think I finally figured out what they meant. They meant Aunt Gert may have featured in the fictitious email that was banned in the UK, not the sbemail_22 that we see on the site today. All the same, it's just speculation. '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 04:26, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*[[Image:DECLINED!.JPG]] - [[User:Technochocolate|T.C.]]
** Er... no offense, but I think that picture is only going to serve to make this cluttered page worse... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 15:48, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What in the...Declined!''' Was Aunt Gert even ''IN'' that email?! I don't think so. -Walking Armless
*'''Fugget it''' Who cares? I mean, really.-Alice

====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

*I think this needs to be '''revised,''' just because I don't really consider [[army]] to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**From the DVD commentary for [[army]]: '''MATT:''' "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
*There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% '''accept''' As of now, I'd say weak accept. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 15: 56 4 May 2005
**As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 [[invisibility]]. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept with note''' The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in [[army]], but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second exactly''' --[[user: Lappy 486]] 6:21 May 5
***'''Third... ya''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Yes! Yes! SECOND!''' This is 100% true! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]
*'''Accept''' I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====Legless====
Strong bad is legless when he says "Up-up-up! Moms only!" in the easter egg in the swf.

*'''Decline''' I don't really think this is a goof since you can only see it in the .swf... and he doesn't say "up-up-up"[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 20:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:40, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Third''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 07:38, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This one isn't even worth voting on. We have a long-standing policy that missing body parts ''outside the Flash frame'' are neither glitches nor goofs. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declorned''' Goofs in the flash file don't count [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Comment.''' This isn't a goof at any level. I'm no animator, but I certaintly wouldn't waste time on legs if I knew they'd never been seen! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:26, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*Let's draw the line. Some things just aren't worth pointing out. '''Delete''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 19:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''BOOO''' You can say the same thing for, oh, every H*R cartoon ever made. The Brothers Chaps don't bother animating body parts that don't show up anyway - what would be the point? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 01:25, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Have you seen the "Making of" for big Hollywood movies? Like how the sets are all sort of half-done? Wow, a lot of those directors must have goofed really badly when they forgot to build the sets where the camera's never going to point at them... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''adu adu adu adu adudududiggadiggadiggadiggaDECLINED!!!''' normally I wouldn't be this harsh, but this is just "really dumb and bad." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:48, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*[[Image:DECLINED!.JPG]] - [[User:Technochocolate|T.C.]] (Prepare to see this a lot.)
**Um, you should really just vote normally. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:50, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
::Yes, you should. In fact, I'm deleting this picture right now. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Um, like totally declined'''Wasn't he, like, just sticking his head into the scene? I think you're looking a little too hard for a goof.-Alice

===[[Senor Mortgage]]===
====Potential reference====
The phone number 555-55-55855-55-5-SENOR-MORT-GAGE-TODAY could be a potential reference to a phone number in [[wikipedia:The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy|The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy]], which is 1-555-55-5-55555-555-5555.
*'''Decline.''' The whole point of the bit was to lampoon poorly made advertisments run in the middle of the day when few people are watching TV. These commercials typically end in some anoyingly [[wikipedia:jingle|catchy jingle]] that includes the toll- free phone number, which more often than not has the name of the business embedded among a series of repeating or sequential numbers. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 11:30, 2 May 2005 (PDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:34, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' "Potential reference"! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Agh! "Could be"! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:33, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' If it's a could be, then it's not really a fun fact. It's just guessing. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 02:46, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*The too long phone number gag is not exclusive to ''Hitchhikers''. '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declined''' One is not a reference to the other. Both are a seperately reference to the fact that in old movies, phone numbers always started with 555- (since no area in the US at that time had that prefix). Another words, it's a coincidence. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:42, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This fun fact is OVERRR!!!''' Seriously, "could-be's" are not cool. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Deep-42'd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:32, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''TWO'nd!'''As much as I like H2G2, I have to disagree. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:06, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*DECLINED! - [[User:Technochocolate|T.C.]]
*'''2nd'd!''' How thick can you get? "This is a potential reference to HG2G" was an example of a pathstic fun fact!!-Alice

===[[personal favorites]]===
====Best Email Ever?====
It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention [[your friends]] in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

*Someone keeps adding this to the page, and it keeps getting taken off, I thought it would be more appropriate here. Personally I'm ambivalent about it, what do you think? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 00:56, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It's not written in NPOV. I suppose I was being a little stubborn about it, though. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:24, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Howabouts: "In [[your friends]], he comments that it is "the best email I have ever recieved." However he doesn't mention it as one of his favorites here" --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 02:41, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' Both of you are right, I should have been more careful of wording. -- SBEmail22 12:45 AM, 3 May 2005 (EST)
*I don't think it was TBC intention for Strong Bad's comment to be official. Doesn't he also claim that The Basics is his favorite e-mail? Most of the e-mails in ''Favorites'' were made up anyway. '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:38, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 11:33, 2 May 2005 (PDT)
**'''.dnoceS''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Actually, in "your friends," SB said that the email he received was the best. In "personal favorites," he's talking about the entire email shows. There's a difference. Even if there wasn't, I still think this fun fact is too sketchy to be desired. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 01:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**"This is the best" implies favorite. Thats all I'm sayin'.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' He loves all his emails like his childrens. Thus, picking certain emails should not make us think that he really values them more than those not mentioned. Or are you calling Strong Bad an unloving father?? or.. mother? or.. ew! [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 05:33, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree. If that were the case, logically he wouldn't have answered that e-mail, or he wouldn't have stated what his favorites were. -- SBEmail22 1:59 AM, 3 May 2005 (EST)
***'''Comment.''' I disagree with your disagreement. That is the case, because logically he said so. Those were (close to) his exact words. His disclaimer was pretty much designed to discourage people from thinking that he was splitting emails into 2 classes.
* WASSUP! I '''DECLINE'''. Strong Bad has a record of being rather indecisive about his favorite email. [[your friends]], [[the basics]], and the fake emails from [[personal favorites]] have all been named his favorites... I think it will always be a mystery. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:50, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE!''' This is a cartoon! Inconsitencies are okay and really dont have to be singled out and noted. Besides, the whole "this is the best email I've ever recieved" line is purely for effect, not necesarily as a real comment. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:51, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Un Chien Debaser====
"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of [[Wikipedia:Pixies|the Pixies]], is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

*'''Accept''' All the links in the chain seem to be true, and even if it's not why TBC used that particular reference it's still an interesting fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Even if it is true, it has no place on the EF page. Thats a Pixies fact not a Homestar Runner one. [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

====Now spell: bound====
The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock's]] ''[[IMDB:tt0038109| Spellbound]]''.
*'''And this fact should possibly be DECLINED!''' Possibly...puh. Proof. Wheres your proof? [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Say it ain't so! I thought for sure it was a Gillette Mach 3 referrence! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:41, 2 May 2005
*'''Standing too close to you in DECLINE''' Just cuz he shaves does not mean he references a singled-out movie involving a shaving person. Does your dad ever go "hey honey, look at me, look, I'm shaving, just like in that one movie!" --[user: Lappy 486] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 03:06, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Worst Commentary Ever====
In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Simpsons|The Simpsons]], where the [[Wikipedia:List of recurring characters from The Simpsons#Comic Book Guy (Jeff Albertson)|Comic Book Guy]] is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

*... which is in turn a reference to fans everywhere referring to every new episode of everything as the "worst ever". Even the same thing happens on the Emails board here, every email is the worst ever to someone. Besides, he's just complaining that the commentary isn't going to plan. "Worst ever" is a common enough phrase, it doesn't have to be a reference. '''Decline''' --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
* If he said it "Worst commentary ever" like Comic book guy (I'm talking about tone of voice) would say it then yes, yes it would be a reference. But he didn't, so '''decline''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Seconding all the declines before this one and all the ones sure to follow. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACSEPd''' he DID say it with the same rythm worst #stop# comimisairy #stop# ever [[User:Ganome|Ganome]]
*'''DECLINE'D!!!''' I doubt it...and c'mon, you people know that best/worst something ever is a running gag on H*R. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:55, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Clarke of infinity====
The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to ''[[IMDB:tt0241317| The Colours of Infinity]]'', a 1995 television documentary by [[Wikipedia:Arthur C. Clarke|Arthur C. Clarke]] about [[Wikipedia:Fractal|fractal]] geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

*'''Decline''' Even if true, does this belong here? Given TBC didn't write the song and all... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Try posting it here [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Interpretations:Experimental_Film] instead. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 5:37 May 2 2005
*'''Maybe, but still decline''' The line sounds more whimsical than reference-y to me. [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Moonwatcher had no witty comment to add ... but he would think of something. --- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Even if it was, this isn't the place to write it. TMBG didn't write the song just for h*r, it's their song. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:09, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

====Football helmet = reference?====
The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Commander Keen|Commander Keen]], Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

*'''Decline''' The ATM and Keen have nothing else in common that suggests this might be a reference... besides, Keen's helmet has a green and white stripe, not a blue one. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' Yeah, I thought that at first, but it's not really the same. [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 13:28, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second, third, whatever''' Huh, I didn't notice that the stripe was not the right color. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 23:31, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Sometimes a football helmet is just ... awww, never mind! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[current status]]===
====Send In The Clown====
[[Wikipedia:Ronald McDonald|Ronald McDonald]] is the clown mascot for McDonald's.

*'''Comment.''' This one has been added and deleted about X0 times. Rather than waste valuable mission time, I STUFFed it. Allez cuisine! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:14, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Still Decline''' <s>What the crap?! This website is about '''Homestar''', not McDonalds. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:23, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)</s> My bad...but it's still ''waaaaaaay'' too obvious. ''{Starts singing Everyobody Knows It}''... --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:34, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Ah '''still decline!''' You're getting more popular as the days go on! Yeah, '''decline'''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' Remember the context. Coach B complains about his "clown feet" then grumbles something about "Ronald McDonald." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:29, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Decline.''' I'm always amazed by what people ''don't'' know, but ... something tells me that ol' Ron is pretty well known the world over! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:32, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, and I don't like to reject outside references on the basis of being too obvious. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:24, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:55, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''I'm gonna second that.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:14, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Well I do. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 27 Apr
*'''DUH! cline''' Me too. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:45, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Do you want '''decline''' with that? Sorry, this falls under the category of "so obvious (insert name here) could see it." --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Is this one of those '''declined''' fun facts? Like the ones that Moms and off-shore casinos post?.-- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 18:07, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Hey! A reference is a reference. Obvious or not! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 19:02, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But it's ''too'' obvious! I quote "but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them" from the things that make good fun facts. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:11, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Hey! Did you know tha Pikachu is a Pokemon?!? C'mon folks, this fact isn't like the Four Armed Grimace reference. People already know who Ronald is. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***You're using the example from the top of the STUFF page, but it's a bad example (and really should be changed). Many people, myself included, have no real idea what a Pokemon is, even less who Pikachu is.
***I think enough people do know that it doesn't have to be listed. No matter how well known something is there will ALWAYS be someone who doesn't know about it. That doesn't mean we need to explain each and every reference. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' The philosophy that nothing is too obvious does not work. If Jesus appeared in a cartoon it would be ridiculous to make a fact about him. Even though (as far as I know) Ronald McDonald isn't religiously worshipped by millions over the world, he ''is'' extremely and widely well known. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:13, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''', I mean, do you want me to add "Homestar Runner is a popular web cartoon" or "The language primary used in this email is 'English', named after an island dwelling European nation" as fun facts to every cartoon? There is a fun fact describing brunswick stew in new boots, does that mean we need one describing biscuit dough in the jail cartoon?
***I mean, do you want me to ask you to sign your vote? Or do you want me to say SIGN YOUR VOTE.? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:11, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
****I think there are enough declines for this fact that he doesn't have to. Still doesn't count though. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Quote:'''(but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)are you telling me that not everybody will already recognize this? --[[user:Lappy 486]] today at now
**This is still a horrible example. Who the heck is Pikachu? What the heck is a Pokémon? (I guess if they were [[Wikipedia:Pikachu|linked]], I could go over to Wikipedia and find out, but apparently the reference is too obvious for that. Believe it or not, not everybody knows everything about pop culture, and valid real-world references deserve links.)
'''Decline'd''' Ok on these facts I try to be nice (no matter how little I comment on these facts), but this is just sad. You might as well put "'Pickle' is a word"! Seriously man, either get a point to this or get rid of it. ~[[user:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

===[[theme park]]===
====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].

'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
*I'd written the latter one, which I think is a more feasible connection than the former. '''Accept''' that one, but '''Neutral''' on the former; could be either way, really. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:46, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Meeehh''' When there are two likely answers, hang them both. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Double Accept''' I think both of them could be references that are correct. I'd put it like one fact, then the double asterisk, and the other fact, ya know? [[user: lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' It should be noted that, on Survivor, the guy is actually referred to as "Ryan S.", to differentiate from "Ryan O." So both are very very plausible.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 11:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know I don't typically vote to accept "could-be" facts, but both of these do appear to be quite plausible based on the circumstances. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''Why did this get STUFFed? [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]11:33, 30 Apr 2005
**'''Seconded''' with a capital '''S''' --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 06:34, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' the former, '''accept''' the latter. The second one seems rather tenuous. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 22:36, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait, you accept the "tenuous" one and decline the other? ''{is confused}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Latter refers to the one at the end. Hes accepting the second one. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Right. So he's accepting the second one, but he's also saying that it's tenuous. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 04:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****Probably just means that it's something of a ''weak'' Accept, but an Accept nonetheless. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******Sorry for the confusion, I meant to '''accept''' the first, and '''weak accept''' the second. I don't know why I typed Decline. --[[User:Andorra409|Andorra409]] 00:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline A, Accept B''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move A, Decline B.'''' That first one should go on the techno page, if it's not already there. The other one is irrelevant. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' The Ryan S. on Survivor is a good refrence (TBC could easily watch survivor), but is a dircet refrence to techno, not theme park, move it. Also, accept the second as it could be just as good and just as likely.
**Given that there's DEFINITELY a "Ryan S." on General Tso's Chicken and that it's not terribly likely to just be some random name they came up with, I'd say there's relevance enough. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept Both''' -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]]

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''', to all of the above. --SBEmail22 8:42 PM, 5 May 2005 (EST)
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Since it's more of an electrical engineering and telephony term rather than a computer term, I'm inclined to think this wasn't intentional. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:14, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I disagree. I think that's exactly why he said "crosstalk" to the Compy. Otherwise he would have said "cut the sass" or something to that effect without using the word "crosstalk". --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give
him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted on two parallel
wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut
it out, you."</pre>
*'''Exobably not.''' I think he's just telling his Compy to cut the sass. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So you think they just pulled the term "crosstalk" out of thin air? I'd say this is definitely an '''Accept''', preferably with some small revisions to the sentence structure. - Dingell
***Not really. I realize crosstalk is a computer term, and SB might as well, but it seems that he's using it in the way I described above. I don't know if that makes sense. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
****The fact doesn't say the reason why they used the phrase, it just explains what the technical definition for crosstalk. Dingell is right, its use (whether they used it properly or not) is not a coincidence. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No.''' I think he means like "backtalk." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 19:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Awxome Axept''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral'''So what your saying is 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I don't understand the people who claim it's not a reference to an anime nosebleed because it's green. You might as well say Cheat Commandos aren't a reference to GI Joe because the Joes aren't Cheats. References do not have to be exactly the same as the thing they reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**But Aurora, if we did accept this, we may have to let all the other "could be" fun facts in. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
::*No, actually, it's not the way it is, and no, actually you wouldn't have to let the other "could be fun facts" in. You can always vote "Decline" on other "could be" fun facts. '''Accept'''. → ''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''It'Snot Blood''' I think it is a runny nose. I know about the nosebleed thing, but i dont think it is what we are looking at. --[[user: Lappy 486]] 30 Apr 9:32

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
====Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F====
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fun fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined''' by a score of 4-12. Discussion moved to [[Talk:trevor the vampire]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:34, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Oolong's Namesake====
Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for [[Combolations]] in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or [[Wikipedia:Oolong (rabbit)|Oolong the rabbit]], whose owner is Japanese.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====MikeMike And Matt Rock====

The credits for Mike Rock and MattMatt are references to [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt Chapman]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:japanese cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Li'l Brudder Show]]===

====Ugly Animation====
The animation resembles the work of [[Wikipedia:Klasky Csupo|Klasky Csupo]] (most famous for [[Wikipedia:Rugrats|Rugrats]]), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Things are lookin' up!====

The title of the page and Lil' Brudder's line at the end of the toon "Things are lookin' up!" is probably a reference to the Gershwin song of the same name. (Incidentally, there's also a line in the song that says "I'm happy as a pup.")[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Li'l Brudder Show]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:00, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[dangeresque 3]]===
====Constantinople?====

The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined'''. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:dangeresque 3]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:21, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[rampage]]===

====Jammin'====
"Number one jam" is possibly a reference to [[time capsule]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]]

===[[pizzaz]]===
====So many a reference====
Given [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps']] obsession with old video games, RyGuy might be a reference to the classic NES game Rygar, or Ryu from the Street Fighter series. It could also reference [http://www.callofcombat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4158 Fryguy], given their equal obsession with 80s youth-targeted advertising.

*'''I'm not gonna write a "Declined" joke this week...''' Ryu was the first thing that came to mind when I saw this email, however since there's so many things it could be a reference to (just search the web for "RyGuy") it's not certain. Either pick one and prove it, or this is textbook TTATOT --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 15:41, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined''' "RyGuy" is a nickname for Ryan, not a reference to anything. I happen to have a friend named Ryan, who a lot of people call "RyGuy". Do I go around saying "Is that a reference to...?!" No, I don't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:54, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' As I said on [[Talk:Main Page 6]], there's an option when you add a sound in Flash there are several Sync options, the usual one for this type of thing is "Stream", which makes it skip frames when being viewed on a slow computer so as to keep up with the sound. With sounds synced to "Event" (the default) if it plays too slowly on an old computer it just takes longer to play, making the sound lose sync. I guess they just forgot to turn it on this time. Perhaps "The sounds for Strong Bad singing and the planes rushing past are not set as Streaming audio, and can lose sync on slower computers" would work as a Fun Fact? Actually the harp for Downloads is the only sound that is streamed, but these are the only two you can notice. As for It's dot com's revision, you'll find that's already on the page as a seperate fact. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I admit that he seems to yell about a half-beat before he begins to fall. I always assumed that he did a wile e. coyote thing and hung out in mid-air before gravity took charge. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====limozeen====
Limozeen: But they're in space is almost a direct reference to the flopped saturday morning show Josie and the Pussy Cats in space.

'''Verdict:''' A fact very much like this went through the STUFF process and was '''Declined'''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:57, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

*Keep '''Mr. Mxyzptlk''' and '''The Great Gazoo'''. Scrap the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' The "Great Gazoo" bit is DEFINITELY a reference as the cartoon is a parody of Hanna Barbera cartoons. I'm not so certain about Mr. Mxyzptlk, but I do agree that it's a valid reference. However, I think Gazoo should come first, as per the Flintstones parody. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Just did a little checking - Gazoo first appeared in 1964, while Mr. Mxyzptlk first appeared in 1987, as did Q (on the pilot of ST:TNG). Gazoo should be first in the fact as he's first chronologically, and while I'm still iffy about Mxyzptlk being included, seeing as how the title of the episode "Encounter at Groupulon 5" is a reference to the pilot of ST:TNG, I think the Q reference is definitely valid. Mighty Max is a huge stretch, though the hat and the "muddle me twice" line definitely seem to point to a Riddler reference. John Bozar seems to be an amalgam of all of them - this may be a TTATOT fact, but for once, there's a basis for it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' According to Wikipedia, [[Wikipedia:Mr._Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]] was introduced in 1944. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Comment.''' My bad - I didn't realize he was THAT old. Curse the internet for diseminating false information! In any case, I still think he's an amalgam of Mxyzptlk, Gazoo, Q, and Riddler - but then we get into TTATOT territory. Still, with this being an OBVIOUS Hanna Barbera parody, I think Gazoo should take precedence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:25, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I thought we'd already declined this TTATOT fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:50, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment and Decline''' Actually Jay, I think we declined the fact about the guy with the metal jaw, not Bozar. Which brings up my point. All of the references for the metal jaw fact were declined. I see no reason that this should be any different. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:31, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) </s>
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Oh yeah, forgot about that. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I just don't like this one. --[[user: lappy 486]] 25 Apr
*Sentence revised further. I added the Smashing Pumpkins as a reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====The bouncing ball====

When Coach Z bounces the basketball, it sounds like a dodgeball instead of a basketball.

*'''Decline''' a bounce is a bounce [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Accept.''' First thing I thought of when I heard the bounce. TBC needs a new Foley artist! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:07, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''This was under "goofs" wasn't it? Gads, I hate facts like this. Its a sound effect, so who cares? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It may sound like a dodge ball, but in the DVD, when Mike Chapman is going against Homestar in Basketball, that's how their basketball sounds. [[User:Snailmail|Snailmail]]

====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:20, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:33, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====Face the Camera====
This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally The Brothers Chaps keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.

*'''Decline.''' "One of the..." Is a no-no. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 13:03, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You being threatened with a DECLINE''' I don't think this is even worthy of being noticed, it is stupid. >:P --[[User: Lappy 486]] 8:00 Apr 26

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Who's that Drummond?====
One of The Ugly One's drums bears the inscription, "Mr Drummond," who was a character in the 70's/80's TV show, [[Wikipedia:Diff'rent Strokes|Diff'rent Strokes]]. It may also have been a reference to Bill "King Boy" Drummond of the techno band [[Wikipedia:The KLF|The KLF]]. It may also be a reference to Ryan Drummond, who plays Sonic the Hedgehog in the newer games.

*'''Decline.''' I really want these TTATOT facts to die. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Yeah, TTATOT facts are really bad. I mean, if it's CERTAINLY a reference, it's one thing, but when there is "it also may have been", then it should be DELORTED! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Keep the Diff'rent Strokes reference. Trash the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I invented the term TTATOT, but I don't really know if this qualifies. TTATOT was mostly meant to cover cases where there are a BUNCH of potential things the fact could be referring to, for the same reasons, and they all have equal merit. These two alternatives are unrelated, and I don't think they have equal merit (the Diff'rent Strokes one looks MUCH more likely.) So anyway, yeah, there's my vote. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline all 3.''' Drummond is a somewhat common last name, as this fun fact itself seems to indicate. I don't think it was intended to be a reference at all. They probably just wanted to be silly and give the drum a name that had the word "drum" in it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Facty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** kerrek, vote in your post correctly, or your signature doesn't count.
*** anony, stfu with your sarcasm correctly, or your misplaced humor doesn't count. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 08:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Everybody, shuttup, or this fist in your face will count, at... breaking... your teeeth..
BTW, '''Declined''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Reddest Radish]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Slippers ====
Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:16, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:19, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless
**'''Decline for the pudgy.''' What the armless guy said. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' I think that is just Homsar-ness. --[[User:Lappy 486]]

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1 after several weeks of voting, this item is accepted. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 9 | accept votes = 1 | fun fact location = Homestar Presents: Presents}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 06:24, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was revised and accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Second.''' This is just another nuance of Homstar's speaking style. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:02, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe all y'all are over-thinking this. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' At this writing, we're 11 emails into the Lappy-era. What once may have seemed "strange" is just commonplace now. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

'''Verdict:''' After many weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' as the re-written version below. The re-write now appears on [[animal]], and the discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 22:34, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:27, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Rewrite.''' "[[Strong Bad]]'s 'fanglyfish' is inspired by the real-world [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. It should be noted that, in actuality, only the female anglerfish possesses the lights and lures which Strong Bad refers to." The part about lights and lures should only apply to the real anglerfish, and Strong Bad shouldn't be blamed for lacking knowledge. For all we know, things could be different in the H*R universe. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:03, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Strong Decline''' This happenes all the time with the Compy. --[[User:BenRK|BenRK]] 18:31, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' As far as I can tell, Strong Bad's computers don't follow the "rules" in any regular way. I didn't notice this, but if I had I would have taken it as part of the joke. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.

{{STUFF verdict | verdict = declined | decline votes = 2 | accept votes = 0 | fun fact location = virus}} --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' I don't think that there is any significance in mentioning this. Possibly is could go on the [[Compy 386]] page instead, but definately not here. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 7 May, 2005

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:53, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:51, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

*'''Accept.''' It says "ages 3-5" quite clearly at the bottom right of each action figure package. Why was this STUFF-ed? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 03:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Does this really need to be noted at all? I mean, it *is* right there on the package! I haven't changed my vote yet, but ... -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:44, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''What? Undelete it! Undelete it!''' Do something! Do anything! *ahem* Accept. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:23, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Oy. Come on, people...not every Fun Fact needs to be here. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:29, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I hate to be the one to do this when everyone else is accepting, but...SO? I mean, what's your point? '''Decline.''' --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:48, 28 Apr 2005
*'''Accept but move''' to the [[Cheat Commandos Commercial#The Cheat Commandos (and their package captions)|package captions]] list at the bottom of that page. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:27, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:24, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

'''Verdict''': After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' with 3 valid decline votes and 2 valid accept votes. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:montage]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' by a score of 4-2. The fact has been re-posted on [[Strong Sad's Lament]], and the discussion can be found on [[Talk:Strong Sad's Lament]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' After less than a month, this fact was narrowly ACCEPTED by a count of 5-4. The discussion and votes can be found on [[Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine 5]]. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:A Jorb Well Done]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[caffeine]]===
===Peacy Prize===
Strong Bad's "Nobel Peacy Prize" is refering to the [http://nobelprize.org/ Nobel Foundation's] [[Wikipedia:Nobel Peace Prize|Peace Prize]].

*'''Accept.''' Uh... why was this stuffed? Unless people think it's too obvious? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:13, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Accept.''' I suppose, but does every joke need to be explained? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:41, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*When was the last time I '''accepted''' something? I've seen more obvious Real-world refs. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:34, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*It is too obvious, but STUFFing it was unnecessary. '''Accept.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:28, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Well, good to see people agree with me, but I just thought that since that Hoofton-Mifflin joke was very obvious, but it was still Fun Fact'd, so I just thought this shoudl be to. I guess I'll be adding that now. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:59 Apr 27 2005 (EMT)
*'''Decline.''' The only difference between "Nobel Peace Prize" and "Nobel Peacey Prize" is the letter "y". Way too obvious. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 00:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh come on, Gafaddict, you gotta do better than that. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***Whee. You typed my username correctly. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 05:42, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Real-world references should be linked, no matter how obscure or obvious. (The spelling, however, needs to be fixed. Strong Bad says "Noble," not "Nobel," and "Peacy" is spelled differently in the transcript.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:17, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

===Bushes===
This is the first time two layers of bushes have been shown.

*'''Decline.''' It's not very interesting or fun. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:13, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*....uh, who cares? '''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Didn't notice. Didn't care. Didn't accept. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:36, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Bonk|Bonk]]
*'''Decline.''' It's just too stupid. -Walking Armless

==Games==
===[[Thy Dungeonman]]===
====Earthbound====
Dungeonman might be a reference to Brick Road from "Earthbound," who was attempting to attain the title of "Dungeonman" throughout the course of the game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Thy Dungeonman]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:40, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===
====Two names?====
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Peasant's Quest]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Videlectrix Ajax====

The Videlectrix runner in the intro dies by falling on his sword. A possible reference to the Greek hero Ajax who died a similar death.
*'''Decline''' It's too general. Similarity =/= reference. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:18, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And [[action figure]] is Strong Bad email #42 that could be a referance to ''the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'' '''Decline!''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' I betcha if we try hard enough we can turn this into a TMBG reference. They know TBC y'know. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:54, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting this item was unanimously declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:53, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

'''Verdict:''' After several weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 23:09, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Anything that discusses something that really exists in the game itself should automatically be accepted, no question.''' [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:24, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:26, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:27, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:30, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Black Spots====
Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:30, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

====Rose Blake====
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

*'''Double Decliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiined!''' Seriously, can we stop stretching Fun Facts as far as they can possibly be stretched? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Slightly like? Oh, man! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:55, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline for the pudgy! Decline for the pudgy!''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 28 Apr 2005
*'''Gimme a D-cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:22, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Stlunko====
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.
*'''Decline.''' If this isn't a TTATOT, I don't know what is. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:19, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''', you're not trying hard enough - I'm sure you could think of lots more bosses that involve fists somehow if you tried... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:29, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I usually like these kind of Fun Facts, but it sounds like you're just not trying here. Pick one. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:08, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***Well, if '''I''' had to pick one, I'd definitely pick the first one; it's what the original one stated, and mentioning only that wouldn't be such a TTATOT. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 02:23, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. --[[User:15.235.153.95|15.235.153.95]] 18:13, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I'd agree with you, but there's proof that says otherwise.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:11, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I just read the [http://www.wtfiml33t.com/viewarticle.php?artid=59&page=1 article] mentioned above. No ''intentional'' homage mentioned! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:48, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
===[[Wonkavision Magazine Interview]]===
====She loves me...====
The reason "elephants" is the first thing that comes to Homestar's mind when he hears the word "Marzipan" is possibly because Marzipan seems to be the closest thing Strong Sad has to a friend (besides Homsar).
*What?! This is just random speculation trying to connect random words randomly. Thus, this deserves to get a '''Random Decline.''' --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 02:16, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:30, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm the one who wrote this fact, and think it's more likely than Homestar confusing Marzipan with Strong Sad. Why not '''Rewrite''' it? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 15:14, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**Because it doesn't make any sense? I don't think he's confusing Marzipan with Strong Sad and I don't think your explanation works either. It's just randomness. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 17:56, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*This deserves to be '''deleted''' at once. '''DECLINE!''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:41, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*OK, I rewrote myself. Now does it make sense? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 23:56, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
**Ummmm, what I think some of us are tryin' to say here is that we don't believe there's any connection between Homestar's utterance and Strong Sad. IMHO, no amount of rewriting is gonna change that. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second''' I'll have what he's having, with a side order of '''Decline'''. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 13:44, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
****'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:47, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Jay, didn't you already vote? BTW, '''DECLINE.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:11, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===
==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1, this item is declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:The discussion can be found at the [[HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts_Archive#Parents_.28declined.29|STUFF Archive]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:57, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

All Things Considered Interview - 8 May 2005

2005-05-09T01:59:40Z

DMurphy: Stubbed

Anyone wishing to transcribe this interview segment from "All Things Considered," along with the accompanying article, is available here:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4634837

== Transcript ==
'''(WOMAN):''' There are lots of nasty characters lurking in the shadowy corners of the World Wide Web. But none quite as bad as Strong Bad.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Greetings, party people in the place to be! I am called Strong Bad! Hand over all your moneys in a paper and/or plastic bag!

'''(WOMAN):''' You can see Strong Bad's exploits every week online at homestarrunner.com. NPR's John Ydstie spoke to the site's creators, brothers Matt and Mike Chapman, and has this report.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Like I said, I'm Strong Bad. I've been described as cool, awesome, hot, video games, the hottest, and real real hot.

'''JOHN YDSTIE:''' He may be cool, but it becomes obvious right away that Strong Bad is not as tough as he thinks. Especially when you get a good look at him. He does have a scary Mexican wrestler's mask, and glowing green eyes, he wears boxing gloves all the time, but his round, shirtless torso and his skinny arms and legs are anything but threatening. Strong Bad, and a collection of dorky but somehow endearing characters, live in the simple, one-dimensional Flash animation landscapes of Freedom Country USA. There's Homestar Runner, the slightly dim high school jock.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, hello. Greetings, one and everyone. Welcome to me... Homestar... Runner...

'''JOHN YDSTIE:''' And there's Marzipan, Homestar's earnest, vegetarian girlfriend.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey stupid, I brought you this stuff! Oh, I mean, I brought you this veggie burger.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oh, thanks, Homestar! Oh! He's just adorable!

'''JOHN YDSTIE:''' This quirky cartoon universe, visited by a million people each month, is created by the brothers Mike and Matt Chapman, in the family basement.

(Incomplete)

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2005-05-09T01:52:47Z

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2005-05-09T01:49:54Z

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*Remember: above all else, this is a collaborative knowledge-base dedicated to [[Homestar Runner (flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]].
*Have fun!

- [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]], Member of the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee|Welcoming Committee]]

User talk:schuminweb

2005-05-09T01:43:55Z

DMurphy:

==Welcome!==
Hello and welcome to the [[HRWiki:About|Homestar Runner Wiki]]! Hope you like it here, and stick around.

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*Have a look at the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Index MediaWiki User's Guide].
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*Have fun!

- [[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]], Member of the Welcoming Committee

User talk:schuminweb

2005-05-09T01:43:22Z

DMurphy: Welcome!

Hello and welcome to the [[HRWiki:About|Homestar Runner Wiki]]! Hope you like it here, and stick around.

Here are some tips to help you get started:

*Have a look at the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Index MediaWiki User's Guide].
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*Remember: above all else, this is a collaborative knowledge-base dedicated to [[Homestar Runner (flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]].
*Have fun!

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Mountain Dew

2005-05-09T01:06:41Z

DMurphy: stubbage

[[Image:sbemail78.png|thumb|Never-ending Soda]]

Homestar's [[Mountain Dew]] was first mentioned in [[techno]], where [[Strong Bad]] told [[The Cheat]] to break a glowstick open and pour it in Homestar's Mountain Dew. Its first appearance wasn't until the Strong Bad email [[anything]] where [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] applied it "liberally" onto the [[Compy 386]]'s keyboard. It apparently is "never-ending," as Homestar says, if you wait around 15 seconds after "anything" is over. It has also made an appearance in Homestar's bucket of popcorn in [[extra plug]].

Homestar's Mountain Dew is also mentioned in [[couch patch]] at the end when Homestar says to The Cheat, "Dang, The Cheat. That computer's got something against you. Did you ever, like, pour Mountain Dew all over it?"
==External links==

*Wikipedia article on [[Wikipedia:Mountain Dew|Mountain Dew]]
*[http://www.mountaindew.com/index.php Official Mountain Dew Page]
[[Category:Food and drinks]][[Category:Inside Jokes]][[Category:Stubs]]
{{stub}}

Coach Z Talker

2005-05-09T00:59:45Z

DMurphy: formatting change

[[Image:coachztalker.PNG|thumb|right|220px|"Great Jarb Ramrod"]]

'''The Coach Z talker''' is a secret game at the end of [[A Jorb Well Done]]. It's similar to [[Homestar Talker]], only featuring [[Coach Z]] and all the words that he mispronounces.

===The Lingo===
*Great
*Jorb
*Jaerb
*Job
*Jarb
*Jorearb
*Homestar
*Hamstray
*Ramrod
*StramStar
*Stairmaster
*Homegrown

===Glitches===
*Scroll over a button and hold it. Coach Z will say the word, but his head won't move until you release the button.

[[Category: Games]]

HRWiki:Recent changes patrol

2005-05-09T00:57:15Z

DMurphy: /* Members */

Ever noticed a little red exclamation point next to an edit listed on the [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]] page? Did you know you can remove those exclamation points by patrolling edits? The idea is that having a group of people patrolling edits should reduce spam and vandalism.

To mark an edit as patrolled, click the "diff" link next to an unpatrolled edit, survey the edit to be sure it isn't spam or vandalism, then click the "Mark as patrolled" link near the top right of the page.

If you'd like to help out in the effort of patrolling recent changes, put your name on the list below. Adding your name to the list constitutes a commitment of time to patrolling. This page will serve as a hub for patrollers to get in contact with one another. Feel free to list any questionable edits at the bottom of this page to call them to the attention of other patrollers. For an example of how this page might serve our community, see the [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:RC patrol|Recent changes patrol]] on Wikipedia.

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Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents

2005-05-03T03:59:24Z

DMurphy: /* Tony Stony */

*Darn! I just spent an hour transcribing the toon to find someone'd already done it! Is there some procedure for calling dibs on it? Also, I know that I contributed both the cast of characters and the easter egg, yet I do not see my edit listed in the history. What gives? -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
**I can't comment on the second part, but it's normal to post in the transcription section saying that it's in progress. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 04:58, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**Your edit is on the page [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_presents:_Presents&redirect=no Homestar presents: Presents]. I made a template on this page ([[Homestar Presents: Presents]] - note correct capitalization) and posted that the transcript was in progress at around 1:40 EST. After I'd finished the entire page (picture, cast list, transcript, fun facts, and easter eggs), I noticed the other page with the incorrect capitalization. Since all it had was a cast list, the lone easter egg, and a couple of Fun Facts that I didn't have, I took the Fun Facts that weren't already on my page and moved them there, then deleted the rest of that page and changed it to a redirect to this page. -- [[User:Forteblast|Forteblast]] 10:05, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
***That's all well and good, but you did use my text in the easter egg (at least in the italic scene description), unless somehow we had the exact same wording (which I doubt). As petty as it may seem, I'd like credit for it in some way. It's a little annoying to put work into something and have someone else delete it. -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
*Could Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone be a refrence to the film The Waterboy? There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged.. and he's wearing high heels.
**Maybe. Why don't you post it on the [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] page? [[User:Forteblast|Forteblast]] 10:05, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**It could also be a reference to replacement and that one toon where in swf you can see something unplugged in Marzipan's house.

== Snowfall sound ==

We've heard the snowfall sound before. Where? It's not from sweet cuppin' cakes that I can figure, and I went through all 22 main pages looking for a reference that would trigger my memory. Anybody remember? [[User:spblat|spblat]] 17:48, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)

Ah yes. It's Homsar walking. [[User:spblat|spblat]]

Oh. Uh, um. No it's not. Sorry guys. [[User:spblat|spblat]]

:I talk to myself too. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

== Fun facts ==

Is it just me or do the fun facts on this page need to be cut by about 75%? Most of them really don't seem to be "fun" enough... --[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]] 00:53, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
:It almost ALWAYS seems like that, but frankly some of them are still notable, if not "fun". Unless it's obviously wrong, already mentioned or just way way too vague, why do we get so paranoid about them? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:37, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)

 
::''Homsar's paintbrush rings like a bell.'' '''Duh.''' 
::''Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in car./The dripping during Strong Sad's scene is the same sound used in Main Page 14.'' '''All the sounds on the site are recycled. So what?''' 
::''Apparently Free Country, USA has a wharf, although Strong Bad didn't know this either, despite him appearing in a boat in both lures & jigs and montage.'' '''This needs rewriting... maybe ''Strong Bad didn't know Free Country USA had a wharf, even though he has appeared in a boat in [[lures & jigs]] and [[montage]].'' The first part of this fun fact is just repeating the end joke.''' 
::''Homsar quote of "You're a real state trooper" may be a commonly mistaken lyric from "Straight Shooter" by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric says "You're a real straight shooter"/It could also be a parody on the phrase, "You're a real trooper", a phrase which usually means, "You're pretty tough!"'' '''Or, more likely, it is Homsar being stupid and random again.''' 
::''When we see Homestar's clock in the beginning of the toon at 9:59, and then it turns to 10:00, that looks a little like the way they show Phil Connors's clock repeatedly turning from 5:59 to 6:00 in the movie Groundhog Day.'' '''Seriously. A lot of clocks look like that. Probably not a reference.''' 
::''It is a little odd that Homestar runs out of the house naked, considering that he had a shirt on when he woke up.'' '''Yeah, that's the joke, "Naked somehow"...''' 
::''Both Homestar and Strong Bad imply Homestar has slept through Decemberween before, but Bubs and Marzipan do not recognize that it has.'' '''Huh? Homestar impies that? Where? If this is worth keeping, it needs serious rewording...''' 
:::--[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]] 11:00, 22 Dec 2004 (MST) is fed up with the STUFF page, where nothing seems to get done

Feel free to [[STUFF]] these, that's what it's for. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]

Yeah... see my signature on the previous post for more info. :P --[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]] 16:23, 23 Dec 2004 (MST) makes no more comments for now
:Putting them in STUFF would be every bit as productive as putting them here. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== Homestar or Marzipan's house? ==

Hmm, how do we know this isn't Marzipan's house? It looks like her house from 3 times halloween funjob. And I thought Homestar's house was red with spots.

== some little comments ==

*The sound quality is higher than normal, resulting in crisper sound compared to other toons on the site.
:I had removed this, but now agree after listening to it on my system with 5.1 speakers - sorry.

*Homestar's alarm clock here is different from the alarm clock in radio. It was apparently made just for him, as it says "Homestar's Clock" right on it.
:I had rewritten/consolidated these, but now wondering if the first part (or all) is worth noting, as I noticed the clock radio in [[radio]] appears to be in a different room (at least on a different piece of furniture in the same room) - so who cares if he has different clock in another room?

--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:38, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Panic Room==
I removed a "fact" about the credits resembling those from the movie Panic Room. This seems a stretch even by my standards. Post a comparison shot and we can reconsider. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 21:32, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I have to admit I thought of ''[[imdb:tt0258000|Panic Room]]'' when I first saw the title sequence of this toon as well. I'm surprised I managed to find not only [http://www.dvdtalk.com/cinemagotham/archives/000536.html some screenshots] of the movie, but an entire article about the opening sequence. That quicktime movie they link to doesn't seem to be working, but you can watch the opening credits at [http://www.picturemill.com/ picturemill.com]. ("What we do" --> "Film" --> "Main Titles" --> Scroll right [about six times] --> "Panic Room") Isn't the Internet great?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:40, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
==Closed Fun Facts==

=== Length Of Grabbo Arm (Declined)===
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
**'''Comment.''' Actually you CAN see how far the Grabbo Arm goes off screen. just watch the .swf file. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:52, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:13, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.
*'''Decline.''' This particular item isn't really that 'fun', is it? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:41, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You stretched it, not that big of a deal. --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

=== It's odd considering... (Declined)===
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
*'''Comment''' It has been pointed out that his clock has no AM/PM indicator, and according to my reasoning, he could not have set it more than 12 hours in advance. When I consider this dubious fun fact (It's odd considering...) and the point that I made on the fun fact about Homestar's clock, Homestar could have changed his calendar when he woke up on December 25th, and set his clock to 10 PM and gone back to sleep, because he simply did not realize that the 25th was significant, nor did he realize... anything... about time. Sorry for the long-winded comment, but it makes sense to me.
**'''Comment on the comment.''' That just occurred to me as well - What does Homestar do at the end of the toon when Strong Bad reminds him there's only 7 minutes left? He runs around like a maniac because he "forgot to buy presents"... just like he does at the beginning of the toon. It's even possible that he went through the same thing earlier in the day and we just don't see it. Given the "12 hours in advance" limitation, unless Strong Bad broke into his house and messed with his clock sometime during the day, Homestar would have had to be up no earlier than 10 AM on the 25th. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:22, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Good eye! --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Comment.''' What I don't understand is why you know he started sleeping on the 23rd. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== "state trooper" (Declined)===
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment:''' I don't think the Brothers Chaps know this. See [[crying]]. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''', or Fifth, whicever works. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik
*'''Decline''' There are people named ''State Troopers''. Sheesh, all of this rhyming stuff. Ok, Homestar Runner rhymes with Domepar Stunner. So it's a reference to that tv show? Come on, that kind of thing annoys me! [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== Grabbo Arm Sound (Accepted)===
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''FunFact=very yes.''' I like this fun fact a lot, and even remember it when it was among the other fun facts. I wonder why it was stuff'd. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 18:17, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' And Strong Bad's left boxing glove looks the same as his right boxing glove...

== Tony Stony ==

Should Tony Stony really be under Cast, since it's an item? -[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 03:59, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents

2005-05-03T03:59:13Z

DMurphy: Tony Stony

Talk:Arcade Game

2005-05-03T03:43:17Z

DMurphy: /* The Cheat */

Why did TBC not make the contrast dial work on the compy 386 in this toon? -[[User:No_Loafing|No_Loafing]]

==Strong Bad Email?==
Hey, how come everybody in the world thinks this is an actual Strong Bad Email? - [[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]
:Huh? Who thinks that? We certainly don't here on the Wiki. It isn't a subpage of [[Strong Bad Email]] and it is listed on the [[Toons]] page. The only reason it appears on the [[Strong Bad Email]] page is for continuity. Who else in the "world" thinks that it is an actual Strong Bad Email? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]]
::I thought that since it was on the Strong Bad Email page I assumed that everybody on the wiki thought it was an email. Now I understand. Thanks. -[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]

==Homestar's Expenses==
Under Homestar's Expenses: "It comes out to $8727.07." This isn't on the sheet in the Easter Egg. If this is included, the 'Monthly' protection fees probably should be added in 12 times each, right? [[User:61.51.67.117|61.51.67.117]] 06:17, 24 Feb 2005 (MST)

:It looks like someone just simply added the numbers together. Your idea sounds good, we'd just need to make sure that it is labeled as a yearly total.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 10:15, 24 Feb 2005 (MST)

== The Cheat ==

Is this the only time we see his back? I don't remember seeing it in other toons... --[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 03:43, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Arcade Game

2005-05-03T03:43:04Z

DMurphy: The Cheat

User talk:The Paper

2005-05-03T02:44:16Z

DMurphy: /* Sysop */

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/compa.png 
Below is where comments can be directed toward me:

== Floppy Screens ==

Those are awsome. I couldn't have done it better myself. Yea, feel free to continue uploading floppy disk screens, I'm being kept pretty busy with the floppy disk summaries anyways, so thats great that it frees up my time. I also like the 'King of Screenshots' title. I'm glad someone noticed. Please, feel free to "continue and... not stop". Me and you, we're gonna clean up this wiki. Whereever there is no pic, we will create a dozen in it's place! Hahahahaha!

Okay, gonna go continue the Floppy summaries. Bye.

-- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird L17]]. 06:14, 8 Oct 2004 (PST)

Well, just thought I'd give you an update on the page you helped me build. It's done, and it's excellent. Links can always be added to fansites for the games of course, but overall it's done, up, and thanks to a grant from the cheat, and viewers like you, it looks really good. Feel free to check it out at it's new location, [[Floppy Disk Container]]. Thanks again, if you ever make any pages, and want some help, count me in. I'm always up for a project. [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 00:25, 22 Oct 2004 (MST)

== Floppy Talk ==

Updated. What do you think? [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 21:30, 27 Oct 2004 (MST)

:Awexome work, my friend. I hope TBC are looking at this wiki! --[[User:The Paper|Teh P.]] 19:49, 11 Nov 2004 (MST)

Hey thanks, I didn't think to look for double-links to the Wikipedia. Sharp eye! [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 14:54, 8 Dec 2004 (MST)

----

I replied to the message you left on my talk page. In case you didn't see it, it was this:
:I can't really take credit for the acronym -- that was [[User:Tom|Tom]]'s idea, after we spent a few minutes trying to decide on a name for it. I asked if we should pick a playful name or a boring and adminstrative name. So we hit on the idea of a boring name with a playful acronym. We decided on this one when Tom noted we could go "STUFF'D!" whenever something had to be moved. :P - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 02:01, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Screenshots ==

Well thank you for the compliment. Yea, that one was kind of hard to get, when I realized the old box was no more, I switched to another browser which wasn't updated yet, and snagged the screenshot before it was too late. Then a few hours later, when I had time, I tried to get the new screen. I was trying to think of how to get just a generic shot of it, when I realized that the first time or two, when you open it, it took a second to load, and had the generic title of homestar saying that quote, just on the picture. But you couldn't hear it. Of course I didn't notice that until it had already loaded. So once again I switced browsers, and managed to grab that one a few seconds before it loaded too. Since it was on the [[Main Page 9]], the paper one, the background was mostly white, so I was able to just edit out the non-white parts by filling in the parts that weren't shadowed. Thank you for your notice of a rather difficult screen. Btw, I've started a new section that requires alot of screens, I haven't really done any yet, Firebird has been taking care of that, but it's [[Halloween Costumes|here]] if you want to help. Thanks again. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 08:42, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

:I'll be uploading as many halloween costumes as I can! --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 08:58, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

== How Long Will The Paper Last? ==

I come bearing good news on [[The Paper]] front. I was a little astonished when I heard that the paper would only survive 55 episodes, or one year. However, if you take a sample year, such as the e-mail [[labor day]] to the release of the toon [[Labor Dabor]], only 31 emails transpired. Therefore, by those calculations, with [[Teen Girl Squad]], [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]], [[Powered By The Cheat]], [[The Cheat Commandos]], and other e-mail replacements, I belive that The Paper has a better chance of surviving for one year and about 40 weeks or so, making it's date of possible replacement circa September 5th, 2006, or late summer/early fall or so. That's my prediction anyways. -- [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] 08:53, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

Well, if it takes that long, it might happen around the same time as the events listed in [[2 years]]. [[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

True, but 2 years were more of predictions I think, and not neccisarilly fact. This seems like they're really gonna do at least... Something though. To name the e-mail by name, it seems alot more concrete than 'sometime in two years, [[Coach Z]] moves into Strongbadia' Just my humble opinion though... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 00:54, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)

:Actually, [[2 years]] should come to a finish before the printer, in 2005, since it was released 2003. But either way, I don't think anything will come of two years, (see above comment). [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 14:18, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Lappy ==

So, does The Paper like his new brother? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 12:43, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
:Of course! Anybody who can sport a Liquid Crystal Display is a friend of mine! -- [[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 12:49, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

== A... Trophy? ==

I accept this incredible award with humble thanks and gratitude to all who have helped so much to get me this far, particularly the ones on my 'Favorite Users' list. And an extra helping of thanks goes out to [[User:The Paper|The Paper]]. I couldn't have done it without you buddy! [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 01:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Quote Of The Week Flash File ==

Since you found the flash files for weekly fanstuff and sketchbook, (as told in sketchbook talk), I was wondering if you had the flashfile for quote of the week too, if there is one, for external links at the bottom of the page. Some way to see the new ones in fullscreen, like seeing fullscreen Fanstuff and Sketchbook. Do you follow? Is there a way? If you can, thanks in advance. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 12:37, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

:I went ahead and updated the External links section of that particular article to reflect the addition of the this flash file: [http://www.homestarrunner.com/qod.swf http://www.homestarrunner.com/qod.swf]. Thanks for asking! --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:41, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

Thanks, now all three weekly features have External flash file links. Makes me happy they do. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 02:11, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Special Request Of A Task ==

Hi Paper! Thunderbird here again, with a special task for a few of my fellow users. On the [[Sketchbook]] page, in the [[Sketchbook#In The Museum|Museum]] section of that page, the last picture is a bunch of rejected halloween costume ideas. The caption gives the challenge '10 bucks to anyone who can identify them all'. So what I propose is to identify them all. I've already set up a basic 'top left to bottom right' type list under the 'Description' section, with the two most obvious costumes in it. But can we get the other costumes, and win ourselves $10? Any costumes you know would be a help. Thanks. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 02:11, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Update: The good Doctor Haggis was far faster with that task than I could have ever expected. All the costumes are done with the exception of one: The full body [[Marzipan]]. Many think that she is in fact Belle from Beauty & the Beast, but we're not quite sure about that. What are your thoughts? Any better ideas as to who this mystery Marzipans could be, or even just your opinion as to weather or not she's Belle? [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 12:10, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

::You know, I haven't given this much thought lately. I suppose she could be belle, but I think the situation is moot at this point. But thanks for asking for my opinion. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 18:36, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==DVD Floppy Screens==

Thanks pape, that's awsome. I was working and just got home, and was just about to check the thread. So I'm gonna do that right now, and start adding them the best I can to the Floppys list. Thanks man. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 16:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Okay, it's up. Sort of. Any way to get straight PNG pics from the DVD? I think they'll turn out better if you can. If not, it's a pretty good base. I'll be working away at it for another little while yet... (Oh, and Btw, feel free to use my Talk page whenever need be. That's what it's there for). Oh, and what do you think of my Userpage? I've been working on it lots. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 17:19, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

Thanks, you rock. I've been really busy due to a recent spike in work, so any help on [[Floppy Disk Container|page]] would be much appreciated. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 23:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Thanks for your help anyways. At least SOMETHING is better than nothing. Btw, any ideas about the 'Cave Quest' one? Would there be any way to make a rotating picture of the two or something? (See [[Talk:Floppy Disk Container|that thar page]] fer more info). ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 09:52, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

== Can people use those awesome FF&TB logos? ==

I'd really like to use them...

:Sure, you may use them. Please upload them to another server - don't hotlink them if you can help it. I encourage you to make an account on the wiki (so you can sign posts) and you may place them on your future userpage, too! --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:30, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Database ==

I have a database ready, but wiki won't let me upload .xls files. I'll send it to you via e-mail if you give me your e-mail.
--[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 00:42, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Sent. --[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 01:17, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Thanks! *goes to check email* --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 01:20, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Your donation attribution ==

Did you want your name displayed on the donation ledger and the thank you page, or just your username? I've got your name up there now with a link. Let me know if you want me to take your name down. Sorry I didn't fix this sooner. Thanks. [[User:JoeyDay|<nowiki></nowiki>]] —[[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] [[User talk:JoeyDay|(Talk)]] 12:40, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
:I would like my user name to be displayed instead of my real name on the ledger and thank you page, if possible. Thanks. --[[User:The Paper|THE PAPER]] 10:10, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==Thanks Pape!==

Not a problem, I would have done the same thing if I weren't so darn busy... And congratulations, you're now the first person besides myself to edit my userpage. (You could have just changed the whole link to just Floppy Disk Container, instead of leaving the 'Plus' on. That's what I did) Anyways... CONGRATURATIONS!!! ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 00:23, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==Great Jorb!==
Wow, you updated ALL those links! Cool beans & keen gear! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 18:00, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==Something Interesting...==

Hey Pape, long time no see. Howsabout you helping me out with something, again? This time, it's a webpage. Namely, [http://www.homestarrunner.com/processing.html this one]]. If you're wondering where I got it from, check the [[Strong Bad Email]] Fun Facts section. Anyhoo, I was just trying to figure out if this was also linked to in some other way on the site, incorperated into a toon or whatnot. I recognize it, but can't figure it out. But that's all just sidestuff. The reason I chose to tell YOU about this, was the fact that it involves the paper to quite an extent, it's in a different venue, is chewed and torn repeatedly, and is actually seen to be PRINTED OUT!!! So yea, that's about the size of it. I added it to the Fun Facts, and I feel it should be meantioned somewhere in relation with [[The Paper]], but am unsure exactly where or how. Since you are the resident Paper expert on the Wiki, I figured I'd leave it in your capable hands. So what do you think we should do? Should we even make a seperate Printer page or something, since SHE's been meantioned on [[invisibility|other]] [[montage|occasions]] as well? ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 02:58, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

(P.S., on kinda a side topic, on the Paper page, under 'oddities', in 'invisibility', it meantions that the Printer is male, despite the paper being female. Then a comment is made that perhaps it is a refferance to computer parts being labled 'male and female' for obviousish reasons. So under the same line of resoning, Between a printer and it's paper, the Printer WOULD be female, and the Paper male. Get my drift? Anyways, if you want to somehow tactfully explain that on the page or whatnot, be my guest. But yea, there you go. There's my rambling done.)

== Sysop ==

Just letting you know, you have been given [[HRWiki:Administrators|sysop]] privileges. If you have any questions, never hesitate to ask. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:09, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:Wow. This is quite an honor, Mr. Preuss. I will not let you down. Thanks a million. --[[User:The Paper|THE PAPER]] 14:14, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::Yay Pape! You're the last one. Now me, Firebird, Jay, you, we're all sysops! Sysops rock! Congratulations man. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 06:26, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
::Grats, you deserve it :-) --[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

User:DMurphy

2005-05-03T02:37:09Z

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2005-05-03T02:35:32Z

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2005-05-03T02:34:01Z

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*[[the facts]]
*[[lackey]]
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*[[time capsule]]
*[[the show]]
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HRWiki:Welcoming committee

2005-05-03T02:31:28Z

DMurphy: /* Members */ joined

Welcome to the Welcoming Committee of the [[Main Page|Homestar Runner Wiki]].

== Who We Are ==
The welcoming committee is a group of people who kindly greet new users and help them get started (if needed). If you want to help out, the most obvious thing you can do is post welcome messages and be friendly and helpful with new users you meet. The easiest way to identify new users is from the [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]] list. The new user's username or talk page will be red because they haven't been created, yet. Once you're on the user page, you can click "User contributions" on the sidebar to see how many edits they've done. Also be sure to check the history of the talk page to verify that no one has already welcomed them (they may have deleted the first welcome message).

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You should also have a basic technical understanding of the wiki so that you can answer any questions an inexperienced user might have.

== Don't Bite ==
''"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."''-[[Wikipedia:Hanlon's Razor|Hanlon's Razor]]

The [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Welcoming Committee|Wikipedia Welcoming Committee]], in their "[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers|Please do not bite the newcomers]]" page, wrote:
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Talk:garage sale

2005-05-03T02:29:03Z

DMurphy: grammar

Is Coach Z really a mother? He was after all buying things for babies, but other than that, I see no evidence leading me to believe this. Does anyone else have anything? -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 11:42, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
* Coach Z is just getting increasingly weird. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:13, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
* I seriously hope that'll never get mentioned again! Except if the baby turns out to be a bag of flour or whatever. ("No, my baby isn't an inanimate object. Yes, this phone is plugged in.") [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:32, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
* Well, as far as evidence goes, he says he's a mother in the easter egg. Perhaps he keeps the baby in a locker or something? I'm sure TBC will pick up this story line in future e-mails though... -[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 21:32, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

wate is it marzi's sail or SB's?????? --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 11:57, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
* Well, we see Strong Bad selling to Bubs, and Marzipan thinking about buying her answering machine, so it looks like Strong Bad's sale to me. Of stolen items sold back for inflated prices. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:13, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*The can of peas was on sale for $99, in Strong Bad email 99 ([[different town]]) the KoT was buried in a box of peas. Anyone else think this is a referance?
** The price of every item corresponds to the number of the sbemail in which it first appeared. -- Yo, Anony! Why don't you post comments to talk pages without revealing your own identityyyy!?
***Look who's talking. [[User:Poopsmith Z|Poopsmith Z]]

umm someone should change this...
(under trivia, continues to remarks)
* While debatable, this also might raise the possibility of Senor Cardgage being a '''permamanent''' character.
also on remarks. duplication and spelling - almost more than 2 problems!
Also, anyone else notice the hat on "the haggler" caption is homsar's? --Johnoboy
*No, it isn't. But I was expecting someone to say so. Homsar's hat is yellow - "The Haggler"'s hat is brown. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:04, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**Yes, but it is clearly the same shape. I highly doubt that can be considered a coincidence. -[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

== Bub? ==

Someone had better check the spelling of Bubs' Concession Stand (below, under Fun Facts). It doesn't let me change it - but it makes me so mad!

Teplotaxl: May 2, 2005

Talk:garage sale

2005-05-03T02:28:17Z

DMurphy: comment

Is Coach Z really a mother? He was after all buying things for babies, but other than that, I see no evidence leading me to believe this. Does anyone else have anything? -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 11:42, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
* Coach Z is just getting increasingly weird. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:13, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
* I seriously hope that'll never get mentioned again! Except if the baby turns out to be a bag of flour or whatever. ("No, my baby isn't an inanimate object. Yes, this phone is plugged in.") [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:32, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
* Well, as far as evidence goes, he says he's a mother in the easter egg. Perhaps he keeps the baby in a locker or something? I'm sure TBC will pick up this story line in future e-mails though... -[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 21:32, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

wate is it marzi's sail or SB's?????? --[[User:djm1791|djm1791]] 11:57, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
* Well, we see Strong Bad selling to Bubs, and Marzipan thinking about buying her answering machine, so it looks like Strong Bad's sale to me. Of stolen items sold back for inflated prices. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:13, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*The can of peas was on sale for $99, in Strong Bad email 99 ([[different town]]) the KoT was buried in a box of peas. Anyone else think this is a referance?
** The price of every item corresponds to the number of the sbemail in which it first appeared. -- Yo, Anony! Why don't you post comments to talk pages without revealing your own identityyyy!?
***Look who's talking. [[User:Poopsmith Z|Poopsmith Z]]

umm someone should change this...
(under trivia, continues to remarks)
* While debatable, this also might raise the possibility of Senor Cardgage being a '''permamanent''' character.
also on remarks. duplication and spelling - almost more than 2 problems!
Also, anyone else notice the hat on "the haggler" caption is homsar's? --Johnoboy
*No, it isn't. But I was expecting someone to say so. Homsar's hat is yellow - "The Haggler"'s hat is brown. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:04, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
**Yes, but it is clearly the same shape, I highly doubt that can be considered a coincidence. -[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

== Bub? ==

Someone had better check the spelling of Bubs' Concession Stand (below, under Fun Facts). It doesn't let me change it - but it makes me so mad!

Teplotaxl: May 2, 2005

Potate

2005-05-02T21:38:13Z

DMurphy: /* Appearances */ detail about garage sale appearance

[[Image:Potate_bag.png|thumb|right|210px|Early morning Potate]]
'''Potate''' is the resident brand name of certain potatoes and potato chips in [[Free Country, USA]]. In the [[1936|Old-timey]] cartoons [[Sickly Sam]] wears a bag of Potates instead of a shirt.

== Appearances ==
*Modern
**Email [[garage sale]] (out of frame in the swf file)
**Email [[morning routine]]
**Email [[cheatday]]
**Email [[the bet]]

*Old-Timey
**Toon [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]]
**Short [[Ballad of The Sneak]]
**Short [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (Easter egg)
**Holiday Toon [[That A Ghost]]

[[Category:Food and drinks]]

Talk:garage sale

2005-05-02T21:32:58Z

DMurphy: Added comment