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Talk:Jibblies 2

2008-02-26T03:40:07Z

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== 2 things ==
1. this is the first/ maybe 2nd time strong bad closes is eyes
2. strong bad breaks the 4th wall by refrencing the title of the toon
[[User:Foogs|Foogs.]] 22:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

::Not to mention by referring to Coach Z, the Poopsmith and the KOT as "characters." -invisible_map

==Stick Costume==
Does anyone know what [[The Stick]] was supposed to be dressed as? For some random reason, I'm thinking Donald Duck. -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 00:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:nvm, just looked at the costume page. It's so fitting now! -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 00:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::The Stick is Lowly Worm. [[User:207.62.231.2|207.62.231.2]] 00:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I think that you think The Stick is Donald is because of Donald's Robin Hood get-up. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
::::Robin Hood was played by Daffy. Keep your ducks straight! --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 03:58, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::But why do Strong Bad and Homestar insult The Stick? Does it have something to do with the Lowly Worm get up?[[User:128.104.61.243|128.104.61.243]] 19:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::I too would like to know why they both insult The Stick - I don't think there's a history of this? --[[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 16:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Not to reopen old discussions, but does anyone know the answer to this? I don't, so I think it's worth an explaination on the page [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 01:21, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== No Interactivity ==

Does anyone else believe this toon broke a tradition for h*r halloween specials? In 2001, they had that trick-or-treat game, in 2003, they had a brief scene making fun of the trick-or-treat game, and in 2005, they had a potion game. This would be the 1st h*r Halloween special out of the ones released in an odd-numbered year not to include interactivity other than the usual Easter Eggs. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:33, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:...Ummm, yeah. Odd numbered years. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 03:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:...Ummm, yeah. It's 2007.

I agree with Bad Bad Guy; where would I add it, though? the trivia section or the remarks section?

Ya and in every other ween toon also has a party of some sort, this one is actually like a cheesey horror movie!
:If I remember correctly, they had no Halloween parties in 2001, '05, or '06 either. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:25, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Not sure if this counts, but '02 DID have Kingio Bros. despite how un-gamelike it is. ([[User:Dynamite|Dynamite]] 03:40, 26 February 2008 (UTC))

== About the mirror ==

There have been mirrors like that before the release of the Man of the Year 2006 issue (I caught a glimpse of one in a movie when flipping channels). I think saying it is a reference to that exact issue is a bit of a stretch. [[User:207.119.175.50|207.119.175.50]] 00:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the mirror is a reference to an actual mirror of that type, similar to the one featured in The Big Lebowski. (The Dude peers into this mirror in The Big Lebowski's office.) [http://www.popamericana.com/!/Man%20of%20the%20Year.jpg Link] The "You" cover is too big of a stretch, especially when one of Pom-Pom's previous costumes was Walter Sobchak. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 01:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:Big Lebowski - probably. Time magazine - no. It looks EXACTLY like the Big Lebowski mirror and NOTHING like the Time magazine cover. I remember you used to be able to buy those mirrors, a looong time ago. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 18:10, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Was Nikolai Volkoff ever on the cover of Time? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:09, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::No, but neither was The Dude. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:21, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Regardless of Lebowski or MOTY '06, it still refers to Time's Man of the Year practice, doesn't it? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:54, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:That's true, but as written right now, that's already linked to. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:21, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::The reference got edited all up with the "You" business, and then the whole thing got deleted. The Big Lebowski reference is so obvious (see my link above) that I had to put it back in. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Kids Choice Awards ==

When Marzipan says, "I don't know" and then the green slime oozes on her, that was a reference to the Nick Kids Choice Awards.-[[User:Ava|Ava]] 00:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, from what I've heard, the Nickolodeon slime tradition began on YCDTOTV. -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 01:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Regardless of where Nickelodeon got that tradition, that's a *direct* reference to TCDTOTV, where saying "I don't know" would get you slimed. *remembers watching that show as a kid* -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Yep, and as clicking on Ross calls on the scene, I'd say it's an homage to YCDTOTV. It isn't even the first reference to that show on this site. Surprised they didn't throw in a "water" gag too. [[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 04:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::::''{PlasticDiverGuy gets drenched with water}'' (Sorry, I couldn't resist. =P) -{{User:YK/sig}} 06:47, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Shower scene? ==

The following fact was STUFFed — let's see it can be resolved here first:
<blockquote>
Coach Z's shower scene is a reference to the famous shower scene in the horror movie Psycho.
</blockquote>
There was one vote and an argument against, from [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]: "I've seen the original Psycho and it's nothing alike it except they're in a shower." So, what do people think. Is this a reference or not, and why? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:17, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I think that the connection to Psycho is tenuous at best. Coach Z's scene did not feature several closeups of him being attacked, nor was there the trademark high pitched staccato strings. Those would be the strongest connections to the film. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::I think that Coach Z's line before getting attacked is a reference, not the attack itself. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 01:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Wbwolf, I think you're right — if it was a reference to ''Psycho'', they really would have used the trademark music. More likely, it's just a nod to the typical "shower scene" in horror movies (which originated with ''Psycho'', I think). So, mayhaps the fact could be modified to refer to the stereotypical scene, rather than this specific movie. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I'd say this is more generally a reference to the fact that horror film starlettes are so often caught by the bad guy while in the shower. This is perhaps a subclause of the convention that the token hot chick will always die during or immediately following her topless scene. That being said, I don't think this warrants an explanatory note. [[User:Telamon|-Telamon]] 01:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Hey. I'm the guy who originally posted this fact. As soon as Coach Z said that "a pretty thing like him" would be perfectly safe in the shower, I knew that it was a reference to those horror movies in which the heroine dies. Psycho was just the first one to come to mind because it was so well known. -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 02:08, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

==Classic Nick==

There's a classic Nickelodeon theme going.

The Stick: Lowly Worm from Busy World of Richard Scarry: early Nick Jr.

Strong Bad: Beetlejuice, from a cartoon on Nick

Homestar: Artie, from Pete & Pete which was on Nick in the 80s and 90s

Homsar: the Typewriter guy from Sesame Street, which was once on Nick

You Can't Do That On Television- on Nick in the 80s

[[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 01:32, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
: Beetlejuice was not a cartoon that was exclusive to Nickelodeon, but ran on other outlets (including Cartoon Network) throughout the 1990s. I know Sesame Street is on Noggin, Nick/CTW's spin-off, but I don't think it was on Nick proper. Still, three references (two exclusive, since Richard Scarry was also a series of books) is pretty strong. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::What about The Cheat? Was Danger Mouse on Nick too? -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 01:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, it was, as far as I can remember... back in the late '80s, early '90s, I believe. -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

It was on TCC before Nick, however I like the fact that this is my most reconised costume episode so far. [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 19:31, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::Beetlejuice was on Nick in syndication in the 90s. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 20:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

==Marzipan's answering machine==
Have any of you noticed that the number of messages on Marzipan's answering machine is [[Wikipedia:Number of the Beast|666]]? Does that mean the jibblies would have affected everybody
until the're dead?-[[User:Don't say jorb 101|Don't say jorb 101]]
*I am under the impression it's just foreshadowing who the caller is... the number has demonic connotations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast and more specifically http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast#Culture_and_psychology --[[User:70.106.82.44|70.106.82.44]] 03:05, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:It just means that the rocoulm or whatever has taken over the answering machine. Presumably it picking up the call possessed it -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 18:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== MArzipan's guitar ==

Hey did anyone else notice that marzipan's guitar only has five strings?

:Didn't notice it. Her guitar looks like an Edwards PR-100 made by ESP though. (Search "EDWARDS by ESP PR-100" on Google and click the eBay link to see pictures)

== Hammakers Slammakers? ==

I believe that the store when StrongBad tried to find a Xenomorph costume is supposed to be combination of Hammacher Schlemmer, a catalog store for high-end, luxery gifts (like The Sharper Image) and ''Hammer's Slammers'', a series of military science fiction novels and short stories by David Drake.
:Only the first one, as the second one doesn't fit at all. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

== "Human Grate on my nerves" ==

*It sounds like "Human Gettin' on my nerves" to me. Which doesn't make any sense, but that's par for the course, really. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 03:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
**I hear grate. As in grating nerves. --[[User:70.106.82.44|70.106.82.44]] 14:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
***Geez, 0 for two. :( [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 23:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Bad smiling ==

*Is he smiling? I think the curve of the Beetlejuice teeth make it ''look'' as though he's smiling, but if you look closer it's his usual face. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 03:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
: Yes. The whole toon. Follow the contours of his mouth. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Well blow me down, so he is. :/ [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 04:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, he goes back to his normal face right before he gets jibbilied. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:When you wear fake teeth, you wanna show 'em off! Ever see a little kid wearing them on Halloween? All wide grins and growls so you can see the teeth. lol. -- [[User:208.60.233.161|208.60.233.161]] 20:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== misc ==

A) Does anyone notice anything...unusual...about the football trophy?
B) I don't hear Strong Sad saying "Xenomorph." I hear "Beatlemorph" or "Beatleborgs" or something, as if he's trying to say "Beatlejuice" three times.
--[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 04:03, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
: a) What football trophy? The [[golbol]] looks normal to me. b) Strong Sad is clearly saying "Xenomorph"; he's correcting Coach Z's generic use of the word "alien" (in the [[Jibblies 2 Teaser]], a silhouette of a Xenomorph costume is seen in place of Strong Bad.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:22, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::I think he means the football trophy in Strong Mad's room, but I didn't notice anything remarkable about it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Homsar smiling? ==

I don't think I've ever witnessed this happen before. Did he ever have such a wide smile in any other cartoon?--[[User:75.62.6.158|75.62.6.158]] 04:42, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I believe the reason his smile is so wide in this cartoon is to portray his chin as the top of the paper in the typewriter as best as possible without cutting off the top of his head. - [[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 06:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Volkov ==

Someone wrote under "goofs" that "Volkoff" is a misspelling of "Volkov." This is incorrect. Russian uses the Cyrillic alphabet, and there are a number of different ways of transliterating it into ours. I've seen final "v"s and final "ff"s used interchangeably all over the place -- for instance, "Prokofiev" vs. "Prokofieff," "Rachmaninov" vs. "Rachmaninoff." The "v" is the preferred transliteration in academic/linguistic contexts, but in everday use, they're both pretty common. In fact, the Wikipedia article calls him "Volkoff." -invisible_map

: Oops, I watched the toon again, and TBC spell it "Volkov," so I must have misread the "goofs" section. Either way, though, they're both acceptable spellings.

:Transliteration from the Russian alphabet really isn't the issue though. If Strong Mad is meant to be the former WWE wrestler Nikolai Volkoff, the Brothers Chaps made a spelling mistake, since the name has always been Volkoff in English. - [[User:Boffo97|Boffo97]] 13:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

:: Traditional spellings of names from languages with different writing systems are sometimes changed to more accurately reflect the pronunciation. For instance, "Mao Tse-Tung" is usually spelled "Mao Zedong" now. Sometimes the old spelling is so well-known that change is slow to catch on -- for instance, people almost always write "Lao-Tzu" for the Daoist/Taoist philosopher, even though "Laozi" is the preferred spelling among people who study this stuff. Same thing with "Prokofiev" (which has totally displaced "Prokofieff" vs. "Rachmaninov" (which is still less common than "Rachmaninoff"). Here's my point: even if "Volkoff" is the traditional and more common spelling, "Volkov" is not *wrong*. In fact, it's probably closer to the way it actually sounds in Russian (though I'd want to ask a Russian-speaker to verify that). And "Nikolai Volkov" gets 11,000 hits on Google.

:::Yes, I know what transliteration is. The point is, despite its appearance, the name "Nikolai Volkoff", as relates to the former pro wrestler, was never in the Russian alphabet. It was devised in English. It was flashed on screen before every one of his matches. Therefore, *for this case*, "Nikolai Volkoff" is correct, and "Nikolai Volkov" is wrong. If we were dealing with a name devised in a non English alphabet we were transliterating, then what you were saying would be correct. We are not. - [[User:Boffo97|Boffo97]] 19:17, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Re "I know what transliteration is": I'm sorry if you thought I was being patronizing. I wasn't trying to explain what transliteration was -- I was talking about how it changes historically, which you didn't seem to be taking into account. But I didn't realize that "Nikolai Volkoff" wasn't his real name until now. Since he totally made it up, you're right. Never mind!

:::::Even if a name changes historically, if we're dealing with people who have made their own transition from another alphabet to ours, they are the ones who are picking how the transliteration occurs. Suppose Nikolai Volkoff was his real name. Or even that his family had a few generations in this alphabet using the Volkoff spelling. It'd be the height of arrogance to tell them that Volkov is also a correct spelling. My last name is Hines, from the German. It comes from very similar roots as Heinz, and there isn't the transliteration problem, but Hines is correct and Heinz is wrong. Simple as that. Now for people whose name was never transliterated (such as Genghis/Chingiz Khan), then, yes, you have a point. - [[User:Boffo97|Boffo97]] 23:10, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm a Russian speaker, and I can tell you that the Russian "v" (or "в" in cyrillic) is often "de-voiced" -- that is, it sounds like an "f." However, it's still spelled the same in cyrillic. Therefore, although the "f" sound might be closer to the actual Russian pronunciation, for consistency's sake, I would normally spell it with a "v," since most English speakers probably will not know when or how to use the "de-voiced" spelling. However, a lot of Russian names are traditionally romanized with "ff" (such as Rachmaninoff) so it gets a bit confusing. Your best bet is to put down the most widely-used one.

On a similar note, I've put a more-correct definition and pronunciation of the word "русский" (roughly pronounced "rooski") on the section with the slang term for Russians ("Russkie"). (This was before I created my account a minute or so ago.) [[User:Graymornings|Graymornings]] 16:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== 2 Forum Topics ==

<s>Would it be better for us to link to [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=12733
the forum topic] that started 1st or [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=12732 the forum topic] with more replies? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 12:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)</s>
:I just found out the 1 created 1st ''was'' the 1 with more replies. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Creep...wha? ==
{{Audio|Creep.ogg|Listen to the (filtered) quote}}

The transcript has "creep-take", the subtitles have "creep-cake". Sounds to me like Homestar's saying "creepsake" as a pun on keepsake. [[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]] 16:11, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:It's Creepstakes. Like Sweepstakes. -- [[User:208.60.233.69|208.60.233.69]] 17:46, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:Whereas I heard it as Creepcakes. Like cupcakes. Or crabcakes. This could go on forever! [[User:83.67.65.98|83.67.65.98]] 23:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::It's distinctly "Creep-take". There are no audible S sounds anywhere in the vicinity of that word. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::It's Creep-stakes. Remember Homestar's lisp, and listen closer. Think - Creep-take makes no sense. Creep-stakes is a portmaneu. I've watched it multiple times with headphones, etc. It's creep-stakes. I'm putting it back since it's ... you know ... correct. -- [[User:208.60.233.43|208.60.233.43]] 22:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Homestar doesn't have a lisp; he has trouble with his awws. Er, R's. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I've heard creep-take ever since the first viewing. Now after focusing on it, I give creep-take my vote of confidence. I give creep-cake an understandable interpretation. Creep-s[t]ake doesn't cut it. Note: ''Get headphones!'' Props to 208.60.233.43 for mentioning that you listened to it with them, but I think your reasoning is flawed by saying Homestar has a lisp. I also think that your headphones or brain is putting to much emphasis on the white-noise feature created around the hard consonants T and K by the reduced sound quality. Perhaps try to "trick" your brain into thinking that it's "take" and see if you can hear it then. You can practice with the ''I think you're cute / I hate your shoes'' line in [[disconnected]]. I'm able to hear it both ways there, but I can't do it with take/stakes. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:Creep-take is what it sounds most like, but it could easily be creepcake and for portmanteaus it makes more sense. So, how do we list this on [[portmanteaus]]? Or do we? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::No, we don't, because you just said it sounds like creeptake. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:16, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::If we can reach a concesus well enough to put it in this article (unlike the ''I think you're cute / I hate your shoes'' debate you brought up), I think we can safely use the concesus to extend this term to the portmanteaus page. Anyway, more and more it seems (to me) that "creepcake" is what it is. The whole cupcake vs. crabcake question leaves me in doubt, though. I lean toward cupcake, since it's more likely a play on a term of endearment and "crabcake" ain't a term of endearment. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:38, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I hear creeptake. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:19, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Still hearing that myself. I know I've also heard Strong Bad use the phrase "crap-take", but I can't find it. It's part of my point anyway, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:21, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

'''CREEP TAKE doesn't make any SENSE''' as a Homestar line OR a Brothers Chaps line. It is ''nothing''. Creepstakes is Sweepstakes with a "Cr" and it's definitely not "cake" what is wrong with this wiki?? -- [[User:208.60.233.25|208.60.233.25]] 15:25, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:Annnd where does it say that H*R has to make any sense? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:I agree with this guy. It definitely sounds like Creepstakes, i.e. Sweepstakes with a Cr.[[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 05:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::Again, there are no Ss anywhere near the pronounciation of the word. It's take. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:26, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I also vote for Creep-take. I can't hear an S anywhere in the word, especially not at the end. If anything, it might be "creepstake" but I really don't think that's it. ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 04:00, 2 November 2007 (UTC))
::::Like the OP said, though, Creep-take doens't have any logical explanation that anyone has offered. Maybe it's Creepskate, like cheapskate. How do you sign posts?[[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 05:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Why does there NEED to be any logic to it? It's Homestar Runner. (And you can sign posts by typing 4 tildes, or <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:51, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::Thanks for that. Anyway, it just seems like there must be a rationale for the construction Homestar uses. And I just listened to it again and I still here the S's, especially at the end. But alas. [[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 05:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Speakers? Headphones? Did you try using the listening method I described to see why the other side thinks they hear what they hear? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

As of right now,
* Take: BazookaJoe, DorianGray, Heimstern, Some kind of scientist, (Jay), OptimisticFool
* Cake: <s>OptimisticFool</s>, 83.67.65.98, (Jay)
* Stake(s): 208.60.233.XX, 134.174.140.208
* Sake: TTEchidna

Did I miss anybody? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:Sorry I'm late to the party, but I was just re-watching last year's toon, [[Happy Hallow-day]], and noticed that when The Goblin appears, Strong Bad says "What's this crap-take?" Perhaps Homestar's "creep-take" is a reference? — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 20:49, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::I changed my vote (back) to creep-take. As much as I'd like it to be a portmanteau of creep and cupcake, it just isn't. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 21:06, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I listened to the audio at the voice studio where I do occasional voice-overs for anime, I'm not going to say "ZOMG THEY HAS THE BEST SOUND EQUIPMENT EVAR" but it's easy for them to digitall record, isolate, enhance, etc. Homestar is saying "Creep-Stakes", but the "s" sounds are hard to hear because of his special way of talking (Not a lisp, but if you listen to how he speaks, he says "S" differently than what one would consider "normal" along with the fact that the line is delivered quickly. Once and for all, it's definitely "Creepstakes". I'll e-mail TBC and see if they reply on this subject if you guys keep pressing it based on your personal opinion rather than what's on the audio. -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 20:43, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:Feel free, but knock it off with the assumptions of bad faith. We do hear "creep-take"; it's not an attempt to push our opinions off on the article, and the fact that you are convinced we are wrong does not make it so. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 20:47, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::Anony, will you provide us with an enhanced audio file, since you went to the trouble..? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:48, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Haha. Sure. Next time I'm in the studio I'll see if I can get them to load the site ''again'', enhance the audio ''again'', and put the file on a disk for me. That is, if TBC don't reply before the next session I'm hired for. -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 20:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::::That'd be great, thanks. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:57, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'm not assuming bad faith, you are by reverting the correct info. I've given nothing but rock-solid evidence in the form of the quote not making sense, meaning nothing, and having no relation to any work past or present that TBC have done - and you basically have the support of a handful of people who looked at this page. (And not even ALL the people who did.) If someone came along and edited "Hey, Homestar!" to "Play, Romroar!" because that's what they 'heard' another character say, you'd revert it for being obviously wrong, correct? Well, you guys are doing that. -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 20:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Clearly, it is not "obviously wrong" if several people hear it that way and only a few hear it the other way. You comparison is invalid. Furthermore, your argument that this quote makes no sense is hardly convincing: "creepstake" makes no more sense in the context than "creep-take" does. Frankly, anonny, you could afford to consider that possibility ''you'' might be wrong on this. And even if you're not, it's only a wiki about dumb animal characters. If we get one letter wrong, it's not going to hurt anyone. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::::It's obviously wrong because Creep-take is nothing and Creepstakes is a portmaneu of Creep and Sweepstakes. Creepstakes makes more sense than Creep-take, and there's no two ways about that. I'm sorry, but you can't say Creepstakes makes no sense as it's a portmaneu, which TBC famously include all the time. Getting 'two' letters wrong won't hurt anyone - except for the site's correct contents and the script TBC worked on. '''I've e-mailed TBC on this''' and hopefully they'll get back to me. When they do, I wholly expect you guys to debate TBC's own reply! lol! -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 21:14, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

After a rehearing, I am not entirely convinced it is "creep-take": there is a sound that might be an S in there. But I am far from convinced that it actually is "creepstake". {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:06, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:Thank you for rehearing. It makes all the difference, doesn't it? Whew, glad to see this, thank you. (and yeah we may not agree but thanks for questioning 'creep-take') -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 21:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I hear "creepcake", and that also makes the most sense to me, too. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

:Using Cool Edit Pro, I applied two filters: Doppler Shifter (Ambulance), then Normalize. I didn't expect the first filter to do anything helpful, but it seems to be clearer, and Normalize brought the volume back up since the first filter dropped it a bit. I hope this helps. If not, I tried. {{User:TheGirl/sig}} 02:35, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
::{{Audio|Creep.ogg|Listen to the (filtered) quote}}
:::I must conceed that the filtered version sounds like either creepcake or creeptake, rather than creepstakes... sadness : ( sorry other anony [[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 03:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

== Length ==
I saw on the "Teaser Page" (Link leads to specific page, look under "Toon Title" at about the middle.) [[Talk:Jibblies 2 Teaser]] that this toon would "be amazing" if it exceeded 6 minutes. Is that important? Because I didn't see anything under Remarks about the toon being 6:44 and if it that was important to the original poster, would it have any relevance in the Remarks section of the information? Thanks [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 16:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
: I don't suppose its 7:06 if u include homsar's scene or anything, is it? -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 18:06, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe you're referring to me, Stinkoblade? I didn't say it would be "amazing" .. I used the words "nice" and "great". Anyway, running time is listed above the transcript, no sense posting a remark about it below the transcript. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:46, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Sorry, I didn't remember exact words. I can understand that now, but what about like it is on SBEmails where it mentions longest or longest until another came out. That is what I was asking about when I wrote this.
According to the Toons menu, this is the longest Holiday toon to date, can this be important now? [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 13:04, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

== Clickable button ==

In the answering machine scene, the right button on the machine is clickable. I was thinking maybe it would yield an Easter Egg, but no. Can any of the Flash-knowledgeable advise whether that's just because they recycled a Flash file, or is this noteworthy? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I'm no expert, but I'm gonna assume it's because they recycled a Flash file. Nothing happens when you click it except it messes up the scene, effectively ruling out it being an Easter Egg, and recall that TBC have made these kind of mistakes before, primarily with the VCR and the Tandy and Compy's contrast buttons. -{{User:YK/sig}} 18:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Um, I just cleared my cache so I could see the "new" version with the KOT and Poopsmith easter eggs, and now I can't click the button, so I'll assume it's fixed and note it on the page.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 22:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, that more or less confirms that it was just a glitch/flash artifact, at least. -{{User:YK/sig}} 22:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Sad ==

Should it be remarked that Strong Sad's eyes would be behind his fat kid mask, in comparison to his mouth? Or that it's odd that it's a white face, as opposed to a flesh-colored one? Heck, he pretty much just has a different head. Like the KOT when he dressed up as the mayor of Halloween Town. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 18:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:actually, the KOT still had his own head, he just had the mayor's facial features stuck/painted on [[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 23:19, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, not to mention he had a face on the other side of his head. So....is this a good remark then? --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

==Title Card==

The title card is holographic/3D. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:No it's not. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

It looks a little holographic, but it's probably just a random grindhouse-y effect. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 18:40, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

== Jibblied Bubs ==

The way Bubs said "uh, jibblies" reminded me of Homestar saying "uh, crapface" instead of kicking the Cheat in [[replacement]], but that's probably a coincidence. Want to see if anyone saw it too. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 23:05, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I thought of that too. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

== Where We're Going We Don't Need Rides ==

Is it possible the reason they decided to dress the Poopsmith as Doc Brown was because the Back to the Future ride closed this year? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:That sounds a little extreme... {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 00:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I'd say it's about as likely as them using him on The Poopsmith because he's Doc BROWN. --[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 02:11, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== Electric Cacodemon ==

Did anyone notice the electrical noises coming from the jibblied Pom Pom? Or is that just another addition with the fixed glitches? -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 00:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== The TIME Mirror ==

I understand the Big Lebowski idea, but could the mirror also be a reference to when Time named "You" Person of the Year and had a mirror on the cover? I added it just to be safe, even though it might drive the mirror into TTATOT territory.
:See [[Talk:Jibblies 2#About the mirror]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:That comment had already been made, and removed. Personally, I don't think the "You" cover of Time magazine is a strong enough reference to be noteworthy. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== Razor blade apples ==

I think that the razor blade apples could be a reference to the "I Luv Halloween" comic book.
where the characters put razor blades in an apple, give it to a policeman and then frame the old woman who gave it to them on Halloween.
:The razor-blade apple urban myth certainly predates the 2005 comic book. Given the nature of that book (going by what I read over at Wikipedia), I seriously doubt it's something TBC would reference directly anyway. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
It's the [http://www.snopes.com/horrors/mayhem/needles.asp Urban Legend]. 100%. --[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 04:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== WhoDonkis ==

Y'know, I really don't think Homestar is saying, "The Donkis must be stopped!" It sounds a lot more like Poodonkis/Pudonkis. I know, I'm just as confused as you are when it comes to the name, but it's definitely not ''The'' Donkis. This leads me to believe that "Who? Donkis is behind all this?" is not correct either. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:10, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:I heard this myself. It's definitely not just "Donkis". It does, at least, begin with an "oo" sound. Oodonkis. Udonkis? The tag only reads "onkis", so it's hard to say what it is. C'mon, TBC! Show some sketches or a quote of the week that'll clear this up for us! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:17, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::I think I get what you're saying, but the thing's name is on its tag and there doesn't seem to be much space for more letters. (If it IS something other than "Donkis", expect a QoW or something.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:14, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::Upon pulling out my headphones to check another line, I noticed that... you're absolutely right. There's a clear consonant (I think a "P") and "oo" sound both times Homestar says the dino's name. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Let's go with Pudonkis as a good guess of spelling. Fine with everybody? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::::'Swhat I hear, too. I think it's a portmanteau of Donkis and the [[Wikipedia:Pudong|Pudong]] district of Shanghai. (Not really, but hey, crackpot theories are better than none, right?) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::The first time I swear he says "Cute Donkis," but the second time is so not clear. [[User:Kevinchai|Kevinchai]] 21:10, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::I changed my mind, it actually is Pudonkis.
:::::::It has to be Pudonkis. I almost moved the page, but wasn't sure this is "case closed" yet.. when it is, someone else can move [[Donkis]] to [[Pudonkis]]. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:41, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I think, at this point, the only real question is the spelling (it could be "Poodonkis".) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:42, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I think that the name is Donkis, and Homestar has a habit of forgetting names and words, so it comes later as Pudonkis. In 50 e-mails, he forgot the word "deleted". In looking old, he called Homsar "Homestar."[[User:StrongBadFan99998|StrongBadFan99998]] 04:18, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I myself thought his name was Drew Donkis, before I read the transcript. Then it said "Who, Donkis is behind all this?". But now it says "Pudonkis is behind all this?". I am still thinking that his name is Drew Donkis. Why? it's [[Strong Mad|Strong Mad's]]. What does that have to do with anthing? Because in [[the facts|the facts]], Strong Mad named his claymation dinosaur [[Doug the dino|Doug the dino]]. [[Image:cantsayjob.png|20px]] [[User:Don't say jorb 101|Don't say jorb 101]] [[Image:cantsayjob.png|20px]] 7:54, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::What does doug have to do with anything? It's a different name. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::Strong Mad acts like a little kid sometimes. And what do little kid's do but name stuffed animals stuff like "Benny" or "Johnny". Doug the dino and Drew Donkis might be Strong Mad's names for his dinosaurs.
::::::::::[[Image:cantsayjob.png|20px]] [[User:Don't say jorb 101|Don't say jorb 101]] [[Image:cantsayjob.png|20px]] 7:53 PM, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

:This week's [[Quote of the Week]] confirms it. It's spelled Poodonkis.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 22:06, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
::Off topic but wiki related: Do TBC specifically tailor their quotes to clear up ambiguities on the wiki?? [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 01:13, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Sometimes it sure looks that way, though of course this is over a month overdue for clearing up this one. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:14, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

== 1984 ==

Ok. This is big. Follow me here. At the beginning and ending of the cartoon is the pumpkin card with the Roman numeral "23" under it. OK, this is because the deck only has 22 cards...BUT...23 years ago...was 1984. I realize that it was pointed out above that there's a Nickelodeon connection. OK. There's a MASSIVE 1984 connection.

In 1984 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Volkoff#Career Volkoff Teamed up with the Iron Sheik.] 
In 1984 the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Can%27t_Do_That_On_Television#Nickelodeon top rated children's show in America was ''You Can't Do That On Television''] 
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_To_The_Future ''Back to the Future'' was 1985]...ok...that's close...and...time travel...off by a year. Also, in 1984, John De Lorean's cars faced tremendous problems as he was arrested for coke. Remeber, in the movie... 
So So Def was founded by Jermaine Dupree in [http://www.musicianguide.com/biographies/1608004503/Jermaine-Dupri.html 1984.] 
In 1984 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Jackson Jesse Jackson] ran for president, not Sharpton, even though today they are generally said in the same breath. HOWEVER, Sharpton [http://www.answers.com/topic/al-sharpton first received national attention in 1984] for leading public outcry against the relaxed treatment towards [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Goetz Bernard Goetz] 
Richard Scarry wrote five books in 1984; [http://www.amazon.com/Richard-Scarrys-Busy-Learn-Book/dp/0307155404/ref=sr_1_449/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-449 ''Busy Fun and Learn Book''], [http://www.amazon.com/Pig-Will-Wont-Manners-Knee-High/dp/0394865855/ref=sr_1_452/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-452 ''Pig Will and Pig Won't''], [http://www.amazon.com/Meet-Animals-Scarry-Word-Book/dp/0600389731/ref=sr_1_453/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-453 ''Meet the Animals''], [http://www.amazon.com/Holiday-Scarry-Word-Book/dp/060038974X/ref=sr_1_454/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-454 ''On Holiday''], and finally most significantly...[http://www.amazon.com/Lowly-Worms-Bath-Richard-Scarry/dp/0394868382/ref=sr_1_451/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-451 ''Lowly Worm's Bath''] 
I don't know that much about Cacodemons. In 1984 [http://www.amazon.ca/Cacodemon-roi-B-Chartreux/dp/2853760456 ''Cacodemon Roi''] was written, and the [third version of D&D was in late 1983, which apparently uses these things. 
In the 1980's ''The Far Side'' was huge, and the first [http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&EAN=9780836220629 ''Far Side Gallery''] was published. 
Prince's [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_Rain_%28album%29 ''Purple Rain''] was writen in 1984. 
''Dangermouse'' first hit the States on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DangerMouse June 4, 1984.] 
The noony noony typewriter from Sesame Street...the famous [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Hooper death of Mr. Hooper Episode] was Thanksgiving of 1983 (almost '84.) 
The last two are kind of stretches. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_and_Pete ''Pete and Pete''] didn't start until 1993, and the character of Andy was created for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Shame_Theatre No Shame Theater] which started in '86, BUT...ok...the show, Pete and Pete, their Theme Song was written by Polaris...which was founded in ...everybody? [http://www.cannit.com/polaris/polarisbiography.htm Yes, 1984.] 
Then there's Strong Bad. The Xenomorph makes more sense here. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_%28film%29 ''Alien''] was made in '79, but the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_%28video_game%29 video game was made in 1984.] In addition, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridley_Scott Riddley Scott,] who made Alien, made the very famous [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_(television_commercial) 1984 Apple\Macintosh commercial]. 
Beetlejuice however...Beetlejuice was 1989...Ghostbusters was '84, and some sites seem to have that confused ([http://www.cinemetrics.lv/saltdb.php A], [http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-53635650.html%3Frefid%3Dgg_x_02&sa=X&oi=archive&ct=result&cd=1&usg=AFQjCNE-PwwBX5WjqAcTWwce_JcmZSuHcQ B], [http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-53635746.html%3Frefid%3Dgg_x_02&sa=X&oi=archive&ct=result&cd=2&usg=AFQjCNGQgg1-r9FPvhI6NlAEunsNKsNKmg C], [http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.newspaperarchive.com/newspapers1/na0025/2908843/15884356.html&sa=X&oi=archive&ct=result&cd=3&usg=AFQjCNHrE8oDQcvN264Cr5IPDIAngQpQAQ D,] [http://www.20minutos.es/cine/cartelera/interprete/2404/2/ E])...Keaton was in Johnny Dangerously in 1984...and Burton made Frankenweenie in 1984...''Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy's'' ''So Long and Thanks For All The Fish'' was written in 1984, and Ford Prefect was from the vacinity of Betelgeuse...but ok, on this one...it's a stretch. Maybe because he's Strong Sad's [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brother_%28Nineteen_Eighty-Four%29 Big Brother]. Not sure. 
 
But...two more quotes....One from Homestar..."Brother called up Marzipan right before I ran into you." Not Big Brother? Maybe...but...from the book ''1984''..."It was bliss, it was eternity."
--[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 05:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

:I don't know. Most of these seem to be waaay too much of a stretch to be in the main article. Alien Video game? Okay, a Lowly Worm book was published in 1984, but the character was created long before that. Mr. Hooper's death and the Back to the Future movie are NOT 1984 references, and close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades... {{unsigned|220.19.16.13|06:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)}}

::I have to agree — I think the connections are a quite a stretch. Probably the only reason that there's some connection to 1984 in some of them is that TBC tend to reference things from the '80s. I'm going to remove the info from the article for now (the info I removed can be seen {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Jibblies_2&diff=511747&oldid=511741 here}}). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

::: But wait, you forgot a reference. XXIII represents 23, right? Well 23 is also the name of a movie made in '07 about the number 23 being numerologically connected to everything. So much so that Jim Carry goes crazy trying to convince everyone of the meaningless connections, and torches his career. CREEPY, hunh? :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 01:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Some are more firm than others. Prince's biggest work was Purple Rain. That's 1984. That's firm. Dangermouse started here in '84. The wrestler became huge in '84. (You have to understand, the teamup wasn't just a "sporting event," it was a rather noted infamous move, they combined a "Russian" and an "Arab" into one "Evil team," that's why he's remembered. Sharpton literally first hit headlines...Farside's first gallery...YCDTOT, in 1984, it was THE #1 show amoung children, that year, and only that year. So So Def started in '84. I mean the rest are iffy, but that's not enough to raise an eyebrow, given the XXIII, seriously? Plus, the 1983 ones, they were all post Halloween, Thanksgiving and Christmas, so they were also both "XXIII" years ago, so yeah, that is close enough outside of both horseshoes, and handgrenades--[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 11:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC).
:I'm not into elaborate conspiracy theories. This is what Homestar would call a coinkydink. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::(he would?) [[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 23:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::OK, so Homestar would say, "Yeah, yeah, you're pwobabwy wight." But everybody else would say it's a coincidence. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 04:10, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Fhqwhgads ==

I noticed when the painting is about to jibblie Strong Bad, he says his normal "Come on in here!" However, he says the first "come on" like in the song "Everybody to the Limit."

Confirm?
--[[User:144.80.83.157|144.80.83.157]] 18:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:I think he's just trying to emphasize the "come on", and add a little suspense. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 18:50, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
-
I think it's a reference.([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 17:29, 5 November 2007 (UTC))
:I'm not convinced. It sounds to me more like simply adding pauses between the words. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
::I think it's a reference. The sudden drop out of the background music seems to give special focus to the words, and the Rocoulm has definitely used other character references - like Marzipan's answering machine and showing up in the midst of Strong Sad's nerdiness. ([[User:Meltingemail|Meltingemail]] 03:23, 9 November 2007 (UTC))
i can listen to opening part of song in my head and mix with roculm's "come on" and yeah that sounds exactly like it. prob still for the suspense though . [[User:Imdaman]]
== Horrible Painting Card Number ==

The Horrible Painting tarot card is numbered "II" which is the Roman numeral 2. This relates to the fact that this is "Jibblies 2". It's a very quick thing that belongs on the Trivia section as people most likely don't notice - and the Brothers Chaps did put that little touch in. '''Please stop removing it just because I'm not registered'''. I say that because it's valid trivia (As valid as what the tarot cards say on the back!) and yet it keeps getting removed when other stuff isn't. It's a true fact, and it's real trivia. So stop it. >:O -- [[User:208.60.233.43|208.60.233.43]] 22:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:Hmmm, but how do you know it's II because of the toon's title? Couldn't it be coincidence? It's really a guess, that's why it shouldn't be on there. Please don't be frustrated by this, it happens to all of us, even sysops. Keep on tranglin'!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::By the way, if you think people aren't taking your edits seriously because you're unregistered, you could [[Special:Userlogin|change that quickly]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:59, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::And the 666 on Marzipan's answering machine could be a coincidence. :D heh. Sorry to get so mad, but... It's crazy how wikis get to the point that people just lie in wait for something to delete. It's like writing "the sky is blue" in an article and someone says "You don't know that for sure" and removes it. -- [[User:208.60.233.25|208.60.233.25]] 15:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Pretty Good, ..? ==
Horrible Painting says, "How's it going, man?" and Homestar responds: "Pretty good, ____________" .. how do we fill in the blank? "Creep-take"? That's what I hear; it sure doesn't sound like the recent change to "creep-stakes".. Neither makes sense, unless someone can explain it to me. Ideas? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:26, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
: Some poster said that Homestar has problems with the letter "S" as justification for "Creepstakes", but that's not true — "R" is the letter Homestar has problems with. I don't recall him ever having a problem with "S". I'm with either -cake or -take. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, maybe creepcake. As a portmanteau of creep and cupcake.. That could be. I say we stick with creepcake, unless we get a QOTW or something to contradict it. It makes the most sense.. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:40, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Hey, y'alls, perhaps you'd like to relocate your responses to [[#Creep...wha?]]. But please read our responses too! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Oops, sorry about that. I didn't read the whole page, and didn't see that convo as I skimmed the TOC. I should have done a Ctrl-F. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::No probalo. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:16, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::Homestar does have a SLIGHT problem with "S", it sometimes comes out as a semi-lisp. -- [[User:208.60.233.25|208.60.233.25]] 15:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Gibbliet ==

Who do so many think the KoT is saying "Giblet giblet giblet" when he's jibblified? There is an unmistakable long "E" sound and no trace of a "T". Yes, he says "giblet" a couple of lines earlier, but that doesn't mean it's what he says when he actually has the jibblies. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:40, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:I listened to them one at a time; each time he is saying "giblet" .. Besides believing my ears, The KoT saying "giblet" is in-character hilarity. Makes perfect sense. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:: So why the long "E"s? He IS saying a long "E" sound each time, and he does NOT the one time he really says "giblet". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:59, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't hear long e's i hear "giblet" {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:01, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Listen with headphones. Keep the volume high-ish (not so high you blow out your ears, of course, but it helps.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:14, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::PS. I mean it helps to use headphones and turn up the volume.
:::::Sorry, Jay, I don't hear it either. Just "giblet" with a little schwa sound stuck between the syllables. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:22, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::ME TOO. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:24, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::How can I be the only person to hear it? No matter when I pause, no matter how closely I listen (in fact, the closer I listen, the better I hear it), no matter how many times, I ALWAYS hear the long "E" in the KoT's "Jibblie jibblie" bit. Every single time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:30, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I also hear "Jibblie"... but I can kinda almost hear "giblet" if I really try for it. The long E is cut a little short, the stop just before the J starts a little earlier than normal... which almost sounds like a "T" if I do the aural equivalent of tilting my head and squinting... but it's still definitely "Jibblie". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:57, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I hear a string of "giblet"s. I remember thinking so when I first saw the toon, and it sounded the same a few minutes ago when I listened again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

== Reference to a web comic? ==

I removed the so-called reference "Pudonkis the Dromiceiomimus stands in the same pose as the Dromiceiomimus from Dinosaur Comics." Now it's back, with the claim that the "author seems to think [it's a reference] (check out the news for 30 Oct)" .. ahem .. The author of a web comic assuming a reference does not make it so. [http://www.qwantz.com/archive/001095.html The Dromiceiomimus is the white one.] Opinions? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:02, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:The additional bit of information is that the particular strip I liked to has a H*R reference (namely [[Fhqwhgads]]). It seems highly likely that there is a little mutual appreciation, combined with a very parclulular pose and and an uncommon dinosaur which just happens to be part of the comic. To me, that seems more than just coincidence nor TTATOT. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::A dinosaur as obscure as a "dromiceiomimus", standing in the exact same pose that the character Dromiceiomimus stands in for every single episode of a very-popular webcomic (one which has even been referenced in a [http://www.fool.com/personal-finance/saving/2007/10/18/dont-save-like-tyrannosaurus-rex.aspx Motley Fool article]), which has previously slipped in references to H*R - I think this one is indisputable. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:06, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, it certainly is disputable! But to me, it seems likely that this is a reference - solely based on SB saying the whole name instead of just "dinosaur". That's definitely a hint.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:23, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, the "parclulular" pose doesn't sell me, but once again I'm out of my element. I don't have an appreciation for web comics whatsoever and certainly wouldn't know which ones are popular. This one in "parclulular" doesn't appear to be entertaining in the least (granted, that's my opinion, but everyone's entitled to my opinion), so how could I know that it's popular? And popularity doesn't necessarily make it a reference, but if it's such a slam dunk, keep it. Whatever. Oh, and I don't mind saying that I don't know what a Motley Fool is, either. And don't waste keystrokes explaining it to me. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::It's a reference. Especially coming on the heels of the recent SBemail "Web Comics", which shows The Bros. know their, well, Web Comics. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 04:15, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:When have you ever even heard of a dromiceiomimus except in Dinosaur Comics? It's not like Pudonkis is a stegosaurus or a T-rex, or even a pachycephalosaurus or a dimetrodon. This is a seriously obscure species of dinosaur. The likelihood of TBC choosing it randomly, AND putting it in the same strange, awkward posture as that of the dromiceiomimus in Dinosaur Comics by sheer coincidence, is extremely low. Especially since it means they'd have to have never seen Dinosaur Comics before, and it's clear from [[web comics]] that they read at least a few web comics. -invisible_map

== Horrible Rocoulm ==

I think there should be better seperation between the terms Rocoulm and Horrible Painting. It's a little confusing in the transcript because the image on the tarot card is just of Rocoulm sans canvas, and when Homestar steps inside the painting, he's not inside Rocoulm himself. The way it's worded now has Homestar steping into the painting and then talking to the painting, from inside it's belly or something. The character's name is Rocoulm and the Horrible Painting is his domicile.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 02:40, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:The horrible painting itself doesn't talk, the subject of the painting does! So, I agree. Separate. It should read: "...the Horrible Painting approaches him from behind.} '''ROCOULM:''' Come on in heeeeeeere.... " etc. Any naysayers? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::Thing is, despite how confidently it's stated on the Horrible Painting's page, we actually don't know the name of the subject of the painting - we just THINK it's Rocoulm because we don't know what else "Rocoulm" could mean. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:19, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Well if we're going to state it so confidently somewhere else, shouldn't it be the same wiki-wide? Well, I don't think it's a big deal to call it Rocoulm, but if we can't, how about at least call it "Demon Holding a Tourch"? That would do just as well for cutting confusion.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 23:41, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
::::We could just call him the Horrible Painting Demon, eh?--[[User:Spirit-O-Saint-Loolie|Spirit-O-Saint-Loolie]]

== Marzipan's smile ==

Anyone else notice that Marzipan stops smiling during Homestar's easter egg for no adequately explored reason? Maybe she's still pissed off about what Homestar said to her during ''her'' easter egg, but that's an unusual disconnect.
:They probably forgot to change it, not after Marzipan's easter egg, but after Bubs'. She also stops smiling in The Poopsmith's and The King of Town's easter eggs, which were added later. {{User:Mee/sig}} 09:39, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Nightmare Before Christmas? ==
Looks like the odd colors inside the painting may be a reference to this black light scene in Nightmare Before Christmas. Anyone?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DnH_OJcpZYQ
*I think it's more a reference to the fact that it's a black light painting. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 02:15, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
*It was probably to match the cartoony style of the Horrible Painting. And I don't get the immediate connection to blacklight. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 18:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

== Holy Water? ==

When Strong Bad says he Needs Holy Water, It is a referance to Castlevania. - Toonypie
*No, it's not. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 02:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Holy Water is an old, old cliche associated with horror films, mainly vampire and werewolf films. Castlevania was only carrying on the tradition. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 18:28, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

== Inverted colors? ==

I don't think Homestar's colors are inverted when he's inside the Horrible Painting. If you copy paste an image of him in the Horrible Painting onto a program such as MS Paint, and invert the colors, Homestar does not go back to his regular colors. [[User:Thrashmeister|Thrashmeister]] 15:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
: You're right. The magenta-and-white stripes on Homestar's shirt would be green-and-black when inverted, and his yellow wig would be blue. Actually, Homestar's shirt is red-and-blue striped and his wig is brown. I removed the fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:12, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

== Person of the Year 2006 Reference ==

I really want to delete the reference to the time Magazine "You" cover, but it's gone back and forth several times already so there's obviously someone who thinks it's a noteworthy reference. (Can I request that it be STUFF'd?) -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 17:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
:Seriously, why can't this be a double reference? I saw the screen cap you posted which convinced me of the Big Lebowski reference, but the nature of the 2006 Person of The Year cover makes it plausible as an additional reference. (We are talking about an internet cartoon show, after all— exactly the sort of content that the Time article was targeting.) It really does work either way. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 18:20, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
::While your point regarding the "targeted content" is what I'd consider the most convincing argument so far for inclusion of PotY 06 as a reference, there just isn't enough in the toon to convince me that there's any relation. Examples of things that would be evidence of such: If it looked at all like the cover in question, if it said "Person of the Year", or "2006" or "You", if the mirror was all crinkly and distorted like the foil ones used for that issue, or if Strong Mad made a comment to the effect that "YOU ARE PERSON OF THE YEAR!" I will admit, however, that it really doesn't matter whether it's there or not - it's just a Wiki about a cartoon. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:12, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:Agree with Father Ted. I don't think the "You" cover fits very well, especially since there's a much more obvious reference choice. I also think it's about time to STUFF this but a lot of people get touchy about that so I don't have the guts to start it.([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 17:27, 5 November 2007 (UTC))
::Nor do I. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:12, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Personally, I think the way the "Time" mirror fact is worded now (no Lebowski, no 2006 cover) seems to be best way. It gets at the base reference. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:00, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
::I disagree, since it's now simply stating the obvious. Given the [[The Big Lebowski|history of references to the movie]], I think it's fair to say that it's a Big Lebowski reference. While Loafing claims the fact was "patently false" as written, probably based on the "exactly the same" wording, I figure it should read "...very similar to a mirror shown in the film..." I know I prompted a STUFF of the "You" cover, but here I'd be tempted to STUFF the Lebowski thing. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

== CGA, not CMYK ==

I would question the link to the CMYK color model on the remark about Homestar in the painting...the colours are reminiscent of [[Wikipedia:Color_Graphics_Adapter|CGA graphics]], a very old graphics standard, while images in the CMYK colour model have no particular affinity for the colours cyan, magenta, yellow, or black. --[[User:Danaris|Danaris]] 16:09, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
:I agree that CMYK doesn't really make sense in that context, but I wouldn't peg it as CGA, either. It appears to be more a "black light" color thing. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

== Meh! ==

As those of you who have been to my talk page (two or three of ya, probably) know, I pride myself in my fluency of a-da Cheeeat. I think I understand his lines while in [[The House of the Brothers Strong]], so I'm gonna go ahead and be '''bold''' and edit them into the commentary. If anyone has any problems with what I added, you know who to blame. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 12:33, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
:No, that's bad, we never put words into the cheat's mouth. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:10, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
::Okay, new question. Do we have a style manual here? Because if we don't, we should add one. See [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Manual_of_style Wookieepedia] for a good example of another wiki's special rules.
::My point here is simply that we should add a rule that the Cheat's words are never added to his speech, unless we come to a decision that it's ''really, really'' clear, like that time in [[coloring]] when he said "Okay." --[[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 13:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
:::[[HRWiki:Manual of Style|Yes, we have a manual of style]]. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 13:52, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
::::But guys, The Cheat got the Jibblies. We should put down on the transcript that The Cheat starts making Jibblie-ish noises instead of saying he continues screaming. It really isn't putting words in his mouth. {{User:Neox/sig}} 16:47, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::I wouldn't object to a mention of "Jibblie-ish" noises, but I don't think the rest of it is necessary.[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 21:56, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

== Killer Instinct music? ==

All right, being as though I'm a staff member of SNESMusic.org, I know a bit more about SNES music than is probably healthy.

A recent fun fact states that the music in the toon was "based on" music from Killer Instinct, but going by the existing SPC soundtrack, I'm gonna have to conclude one of two things... One, the SPC set is missing a song, or two, the fact is... well, wrong.

Either way, could whoever added that fact be a bit more specific? -{{User:YK/sig}} 08:54, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
:See [[Image:HR vs KI.ogg]] for a comparison. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:36, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

== Is That Come On In Here A Come On In Here? ==

I noticed that in the easter egg transcript, the "come on in here" is in the form of question . . . is it really? It didn't sound like the Horrible Painting was asking a question. -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]] 23:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, but he sounds somewhat uncertain. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::No he doesn't. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes he does, listen real closely. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I did, and he doesn't, and going back and forth with "yes he did", "no he didn't" isn't going to help anyone, so unless you have something new to say, let's wait for some more opinions. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:33, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:It's very very clear that his inflexion goes up towards the end of the sentence. Very very clear evidence of a question. [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]]
::Yeah, sounds like a question to me, too. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:44, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Why would it be a question? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:54, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Because Homsar is well-known in the Homestar Runner universe for being an odd duck, even to the point where the horrible painting guy might be aware of it. It seems probable that he was nervous about even talking to Homsar, so in crept some doubt that led him to phrasing his "come on in here" in a way that it sounded like a question. And it turns out he was right to be nervous because Homsar ended up giving him the jibblies. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::'Xactly. I agrees with the Fool. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Not that I'm in disagreement or anything, if this is the case, I'm wondering why the Horrible Painting decided to let The Goblin in . . . but I'm pretty sure I'm thinking too hard about this. -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]] 23:01, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::I, too, think it sounds like a question. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 17:38, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== STUFF of the year ===
{{stufffact|The [[Wikipedia: Person of the Year|Time Magazine Person of the Year]] mirror that Strong Mad uses at the beginning of the cartoon refers to Time Magazine's "Person of the Year" award. '''It more specifically refers to the 2006 issue of the award, in which they chose to honor "You."'''}}
The vote was only on the part in '''bold'''.

{{stuffverdict|01:56, 6 November 2007 (UTC)|02:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)|unanimously declined|10|0|Jibblies 2}}

== Costume name glitches ==

Has anybody noticed that when you click and hold somebody at the end, then drag your mouse to Homsar, the names overlap? Seems like something that should be put in the glitches section. [[User:Gollum999|Gollum999]] 05:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:That's not really a notable glitch... It's something very typical of Flash, I think. The Main Pages do that all the time. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:57, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
::Well yeah, but its listed as a glitch in the main page section, right? [[User:Gollum999|Gollum999]] 16:11, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

==The LOADING==
Is this a possible reference to the Highlander II: The Quickening? They're making fun of sequel conventions, and Highlander II is a famously bad sequel. That's the first thing that sprung to mind when I saw the loading screen. --[[User:129.237.88.160|129.237.88.160]] 08:22, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think so. All the tarot cards in the toon begin with "The", and the one on the loading screen is no exception. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:24, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

== Jibblies Page Unlinked? ==

This seems so obvious that I figure I'm simply overlooking it, but shouldn't [[Jibblies]] be linked somewhere in this article? -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

==Jibble Jibblies==
Looks like Homsar ''reflected'' the jibblies causing the [[Horrible Painting]] to get the jibblies. {{User:HAJ/sig}} 22:35, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
:To me, it appears that the Horrible Painting's jibblies had no effect, and Homsar responded with his ''own'' jibblies rays from his hat. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 23:34, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
::I agree with the Reverend. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:35, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I agree with HAJ, But we never know like Sweet Cuppin' Cakes
::::This is all speculation. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:55, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

== Ushanka ==

Under Explanations:
*A [[Wikipedia:Ushanka|ushanka]] ... is a round fur hat, usually black, traditionally worn by Russian men. ...
Er... We're adding an explanation "fun fact" to explain something that only exists on the page because ''we'' used an obscure word in the transcript? Isn't that a little convoluted and self-indulgent? I'm going to take this out and simplify the transcript. If others feel strongly that this article needs to educate people about what a ushanka is, then put it in Remarks where it belongs. I generally expect Explanations to explain things that appeared the toon itself. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:58, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

:Immediately reverted as "important". But why don't we explain that the thing around Sarducci Bad's neck is called a [[Wikipedia:Stole|stole]], and it's used in Roman Catholic vestments with various symbolic colors? (Oops! He's wearing red in the wrong season!) Or that the thing around Marziprince's neck is called a [http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/jabots jabot], and it was a common style in the 18th century?

:Because their only relevance to the toon is that they're duplicating the costumes of external characters. Once I know who each costume is supposed to be, details about why the originals dressed that way usually don't enhance my enjoyment of the toon. Especially when it boils down to something as mundane as, "Strong Mad wears a stereotypically Russian hat," when Nikolai Volkoff was obviously a stereotypical Russian character.

:On top of that, it makes the article hard to read when there's a word nobody knows listed in the Transcript with the explanation pages lower, and then a word nobody knows explained in the Fun Facts with no mention of it in the toon. Like I said, if it's really "important", put it in one spot: Remarks. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:11, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

::I'm inclined to agree with TheNicestGuy. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I can see both sides of this argument, but I agree with TheNicestGuy for leaving it colloquial in the transcript, and then putting\leaving the word and link to ushanka in Explanations. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 05:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Backup is nice, but someone will have to actually do the honors if we're satisfied. I loathe revert wars, so I make it a policy never to make the same edit twice. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

:The fact itself is kinda dubious, methinks, after looking at the wiki article. Ushanka doesn't translate to hat, shapka does, which is what it's called in English-speaking world (indeed, that's the only thing I've heard it called besides generic "Russian hat" and the like). I'd support the fact, (I do like the idea of having a more general term in the transcript), but I think it might need to be reworked. On a similar note, although the had SM wears is instantly recognizable as a stereotypical russian hat, it doesn't seem to have earflaps, which are apparently necessary to truly be a ushanka. Is this important? -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 16:35, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

::Why, yes. Yes it is. Take a look at [http://www.ganges.com/Dynamite_Kid_vs_Nikolai_Volkoff_Wrestling_Classic_1985_v1157022/ this video], which has a few close-ups of Volkoff in his hat. It's not a ushanka! It's sort of a... furry pillbox hat, no flaps. Which is exactly what Strong Mad wears too. Faithful piece of costume, nothing more. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:36, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

== Giblets ==

Should we explain what giblets are? I doubt that very many people know what they are. Or is that not neccesary? [[User:TreeWithAChainsaw|TreeWithAChainsaw]] 22:28, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:Seeing as we explain giblet gravy in [[more armies#Explanations|more armies]], I don't think it's too farfetched to add a fact explaining giblets. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:44, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Jibblies 2

2008-02-26T03:37:54Z

Dynamite: /* Kind of adding */

== 2 things ==
1. this is the first/ maybe 2nd time strong bad closes is eyes
2. strong bad breaks the 4th wall by refrencing the title of the toon
[[User:Foogs|Foogs.]] 22:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

::Not to mention by referring to Coach Z, the Poopsmith and the KOT as "characters." -invisible_map

==Stick Costume==
Does anyone know what [[The Stick]] was supposed to be dressed as? For some random reason, I'm thinking Donald Duck. -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 00:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:nvm, just looked at the costume page. It's so fitting now! -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 00:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::The Stick is Lowly Worm. [[User:207.62.231.2|207.62.231.2]] 00:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I think that you think The Stick is Donald is because of Donald's Robin Hood get-up. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
::::Robin Hood was played by Daffy. Keep your ducks straight! --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 03:58, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::But why do Strong Bad and Homestar insult The Stick? Does it have something to do with the Lowly Worm get up?[[User:128.104.61.243|128.104.61.243]] 19:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::I too would like to know why they both insult The Stick - I don't think there's a history of this? --[[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 16:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Not to reopen old discussions, but does anyone know the answer to this? I don't, so I think it's worth an explaination on the page [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 01:21, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== No Interactivity ==

Does anyone else believe this toon broke a tradition for h*r halloween specials? In 2001, they had that trick-or-treat game, in 2003, they had a brief scene making fun of the trick-or-treat game, and in 2005, they had a potion game. This would be the 1st h*r Halloween special out of the ones released in an odd-numbered year not to include interactivity other than the usual Easter Eggs. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:33, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:...Ummm, yeah. Odd numbered years. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 03:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:...Ummm, yeah. It's 2007.

I agree with Bad Bad Guy; where would I add it, though? the trivia section or the remarks section?

Ya and in every other ween toon also has a party of some sort, this one is actually like a cheesey horror movie!
:If I remember correctly, they had no Halloween parties in 2001, '05, or '06 either. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:25, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

== About the mirror ==

There have been mirrors like that before the release of the Man of the Year 2006 issue (I caught a glimpse of one in a movie when flipping channels). I think saying it is a reference to that exact issue is a bit of a stretch. [[User:207.119.175.50|207.119.175.50]] 00:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the mirror is a reference to an actual mirror of that type, similar to the one featured in The Big Lebowski. (The Dude peers into this mirror in The Big Lebowski's office.) [http://www.popamericana.com/!/Man%20of%20the%20Year.jpg Link] The "You" cover is too big of a stretch, especially when one of Pom-Pom's previous costumes was Walter Sobchak. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 01:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:Big Lebowski - probably. Time magazine - no. It looks EXACTLY like the Big Lebowski mirror and NOTHING like the Time magazine cover. I remember you used to be able to buy those mirrors, a looong time ago. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 18:10, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Was Nikolai Volkoff ever on the cover of Time? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:09, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::No, but neither was The Dude. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:21, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Regardless of Lebowski or MOTY '06, it still refers to Time's Man of the Year practice, doesn't it? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:54, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:That's true, but as written right now, that's already linked to. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:21, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::The reference got edited all up with the "You" business, and then the whole thing got deleted. The Big Lebowski reference is so obvious (see my link above) that I had to put it back in. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Kids Choice Awards ==

When Marzipan says, "I don't know" and then the green slime oozes on her, that was a reference to the Nick Kids Choice Awards.-[[User:Ava|Ava]] 00:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, from what I've heard, the Nickolodeon slime tradition began on YCDTOTV. -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 01:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Regardless of where Nickelodeon got that tradition, that's a *direct* reference to TCDTOTV, where saying "I don't know" would get you slimed. *remembers watching that show as a kid* -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Yep, and as clicking on Ross calls on the scene, I'd say it's an homage to YCDTOTV. It isn't even the first reference to that show on this site. Surprised they didn't throw in a "water" gag too. [[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 04:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::::''{PlasticDiverGuy gets drenched with water}'' (Sorry, I couldn't resist. =P) -{{User:YK/sig}} 06:47, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Shower scene? ==

The following fact was STUFFed — let's see it can be resolved here first:
<blockquote>
Coach Z's shower scene is a reference to the famous shower scene in the horror movie Psycho.
</blockquote>
There was one vote and an argument against, from [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]: "I've seen the original Psycho and it's nothing alike it except they're in a shower." So, what do people think. Is this a reference or not, and why? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:17, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I think that the connection to Psycho is tenuous at best. Coach Z's scene did not feature several closeups of him being attacked, nor was there the trademark high pitched staccato strings. Those would be the strongest connections to the film. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::I think that Coach Z's line before getting attacked is a reference, not the attack itself. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 01:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Wbwolf, I think you're right — if it was a reference to ''Psycho'', they really would have used the trademark music. More likely, it's just a nod to the typical "shower scene" in horror movies (which originated with ''Psycho'', I think). So, mayhaps the fact could be modified to refer to the stereotypical scene, rather than this specific movie. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I'd say this is more generally a reference to the fact that horror film starlettes are so often caught by the bad guy while in the shower. This is perhaps a subclause of the convention that the token hot chick will always die during or immediately following her topless scene. That being said, I don't think this warrants an explanatory note. [[User:Telamon|-Telamon]] 01:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Hey. I'm the guy who originally posted this fact. As soon as Coach Z said that "a pretty thing like him" would be perfectly safe in the shower, I knew that it was a reference to those horror movies in which the heroine dies. Psycho was just the first one to come to mind because it was so well known. -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 02:08, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

==Classic Nick==

There's a classic Nickelodeon theme going.

The Stick: Lowly Worm from Busy World of Richard Scarry: early Nick Jr.

Strong Bad: Beetlejuice, from a cartoon on Nick

Homestar: Artie, from Pete & Pete which was on Nick in the 80s and 90s

Homsar: the Typewriter guy from Sesame Street, which was once on Nick

You Can't Do That On Television- on Nick in the 80s

[[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 01:32, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
: Beetlejuice was not a cartoon that was exclusive to Nickelodeon, but ran on other outlets (including Cartoon Network) throughout the 1990s. I know Sesame Street is on Noggin, Nick/CTW's spin-off, but I don't think it was on Nick proper. Still, three references (two exclusive, since Richard Scarry was also a series of books) is pretty strong. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::What about The Cheat? Was Danger Mouse on Nick too? -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 01:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, it was, as far as I can remember... back in the late '80s, early '90s, I believe. -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

It was on TCC before Nick, however I like the fact that this is my most reconised costume episode so far. [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 19:31, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::Beetlejuice was on Nick in syndication in the 90s. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 20:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

==Marzipan's answering machine==
Have any of you noticed that the number of messages on Marzipan's answering machine is [[Wikipedia:Number of the Beast|666]]? Does that mean the jibblies would have affected everybody
until the're dead?-[[User:Don't say jorb 101|Don't say jorb 101]]
*I am under the impression it's just foreshadowing who the caller is... the number has demonic connotations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast and more specifically http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast#Culture_and_psychology --[[User:70.106.82.44|70.106.82.44]] 03:05, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:It just means that the rocoulm or whatever has taken over the answering machine. Presumably it picking up the call possessed it -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 18:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== MArzipan's guitar ==

Hey did anyone else notice that marzipan's guitar only has five strings?

:Didn't notice it. Her guitar looks like an Edwards PR-100 made by ESP though. (Search "EDWARDS by ESP PR-100" on Google and click the eBay link to see pictures)

== Hammakers Slammakers? ==

I believe that the store when StrongBad tried to find a Xenomorph costume is supposed to be combination of Hammacher Schlemmer, a catalog store for high-end, luxery gifts (like The Sharper Image) and ''Hammer's Slammers'', a series of military science fiction novels and short stories by David Drake.
:Only the first one, as the second one doesn't fit at all. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

== "Human Grate on my nerves" ==

*It sounds like "Human Gettin' on my nerves" to me. Which doesn't make any sense, but that's par for the course, really. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 03:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
**I hear grate. As in grating nerves. --[[User:70.106.82.44|70.106.82.44]] 14:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
***Geez, 0 for two. :( [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 23:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Bad smiling ==

*Is he smiling? I think the curve of the Beetlejuice teeth make it ''look'' as though he's smiling, but if you look closer it's his usual face. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 03:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
: Yes. The whole toon. Follow the contours of his mouth. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Well blow me down, so he is. :/ [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 04:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, he goes back to his normal face right before he gets jibbilied. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:When you wear fake teeth, you wanna show 'em off! Ever see a little kid wearing them on Halloween? All wide grins and growls so you can see the teeth. lol. -- [[User:208.60.233.161|208.60.233.161]] 20:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== misc ==

A) Does anyone notice anything...unusual...about the football trophy?
B) I don't hear Strong Sad saying "Xenomorph." I hear "Beatlemorph" or "Beatleborgs" or something, as if he's trying to say "Beatlejuice" three times.
--[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 04:03, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
: a) What football trophy? The [[golbol]] looks normal to me. b) Strong Sad is clearly saying "Xenomorph"; he's correcting Coach Z's generic use of the word "alien" (in the [[Jibblies 2 Teaser]], a silhouette of a Xenomorph costume is seen in place of Strong Bad.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:22, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::I think he means the football trophy in Strong Mad's room, but I didn't notice anything remarkable about it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Homsar smiling? ==

I don't think I've ever witnessed this happen before. Did he ever have such a wide smile in any other cartoon?--[[User:75.62.6.158|75.62.6.158]] 04:42, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I believe the reason his smile is so wide in this cartoon is to portray his chin as the top of the paper in the typewriter as best as possible without cutting off the top of his head. - [[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 06:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Volkov ==

Someone wrote under "goofs" that "Volkoff" is a misspelling of "Volkov." This is incorrect. Russian uses the Cyrillic alphabet, and there are a number of different ways of transliterating it into ours. I've seen final "v"s and final "ff"s used interchangeably all over the place -- for instance, "Prokofiev" vs. "Prokofieff," "Rachmaninov" vs. "Rachmaninoff." The "v" is the preferred transliteration in academic/linguistic contexts, but in everday use, they're both pretty common. In fact, the Wikipedia article calls him "Volkoff." -invisible_map

: Oops, I watched the toon again, and TBC spell it "Volkov," so I must have misread the "goofs" section. Either way, though, they're both acceptable spellings.

:Transliteration from the Russian alphabet really isn't the issue though. If Strong Mad is meant to be the former WWE wrestler Nikolai Volkoff, the Brothers Chaps made a spelling mistake, since the name has always been Volkoff in English. - [[User:Boffo97|Boffo97]] 13:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

:: Traditional spellings of names from languages with different writing systems are sometimes changed to more accurately reflect the pronunciation. For instance, "Mao Tse-Tung" is usually spelled "Mao Zedong" now. Sometimes the old spelling is so well-known that change is slow to catch on -- for instance, people almost always write "Lao-Tzu" for the Daoist/Taoist philosopher, even though "Laozi" is the preferred spelling among people who study this stuff. Same thing with "Prokofiev" (which has totally displaced "Prokofieff" vs. "Rachmaninov" (which is still less common than "Rachmaninoff"). Here's my point: even if "Volkoff" is the traditional and more common spelling, "Volkov" is not *wrong*. In fact, it's probably closer to the way it actually sounds in Russian (though I'd want to ask a Russian-speaker to verify that). And "Nikolai Volkov" gets 11,000 hits on Google.

:::Yes, I know what transliteration is. The point is, despite its appearance, the name "Nikolai Volkoff", as relates to the former pro wrestler, was never in the Russian alphabet. It was devised in English. It was flashed on screen before every one of his matches. Therefore, *for this case*, "Nikolai Volkoff" is correct, and "Nikolai Volkov" is wrong. If we were dealing with a name devised in a non English alphabet we were transliterating, then what you were saying would be correct. We are not. - [[User:Boffo97|Boffo97]] 19:17, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Re "I know what transliteration is": I'm sorry if you thought I was being patronizing. I wasn't trying to explain what transliteration was -- I was talking about how it changes historically, which you didn't seem to be taking into account. But I didn't realize that "Nikolai Volkoff" wasn't his real name until now. Since he totally made it up, you're right. Never mind!

:::::Even if a name changes historically, if we're dealing with people who have made their own transition from another alphabet to ours, they are the ones who are picking how the transliteration occurs. Suppose Nikolai Volkoff was his real name. Or even that his family had a few generations in this alphabet using the Volkoff spelling. It'd be the height of arrogance to tell them that Volkov is also a correct spelling. My last name is Hines, from the German. It comes from very similar roots as Heinz, and there isn't the transliteration problem, but Hines is correct and Heinz is wrong. Simple as that. Now for people whose name was never transliterated (such as Genghis/Chingiz Khan), then, yes, you have a point. - [[User:Boffo97|Boffo97]] 23:10, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm a Russian speaker, and I can tell you that the Russian "v" (or "в" in cyrillic) is often "de-voiced" -- that is, it sounds like an "f." However, it's still spelled the same in cyrillic. Therefore, although the "f" sound might be closer to the actual Russian pronunciation, for consistency's sake, I would normally spell it with a "v," since most English speakers probably will not know when or how to use the "de-voiced" spelling. However, a lot of Russian names are traditionally romanized with "ff" (such as Rachmaninoff) so it gets a bit confusing. Your best bet is to put down the most widely-used one.

On a similar note, I've put a more-correct definition and pronunciation of the word "русский" (roughly pronounced "rooski") on the section with the slang term for Russians ("Russkie"). (This was before I created my account a minute or so ago.) [[User:Graymornings|Graymornings]] 16:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== 2 Forum Topics ==

<s>Would it be better for us to link to [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=12733
the forum topic] that started 1st or [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=12732 the forum topic] with more replies? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 12:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)</s>
:I just found out the 1 created 1st ''was'' the 1 with more replies. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Creep...wha? ==
{{Audio|Creep.ogg|Listen to the (filtered) quote}}

The transcript has "creep-take", the subtitles have "creep-cake". Sounds to me like Homestar's saying "creepsake" as a pun on keepsake. [[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]] 16:11, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:It's Creepstakes. Like Sweepstakes. -- [[User:208.60.233.69|208.60.233.69]] 17:46, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:Whereas I heard it as Creepcakes. Like cupcakes. Or crabcakes. This could go on forever! [[User:83.67.65.98|83.67.65.98]] 23:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::It's distinctly "Creep-take". There are no audible S sounds anywhere in the vicinity of that word. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::It's Creep-stakes. Remember Homestar's lisp, and listen closer. Think - Creep-take makes no sense. Creep-stakes is a portmaneu. I've watched it multiple times with headphones, etc. It's creep-stakes. I'm putting it back since it's ... you know ... correct. -- [[User:208.60.233.43|208.60.233.43]] 22:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Homestar doesn't have a lisp; he has trouble with his awws. Er, R's. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I've heard creep-take ever since the first viewing. Now after focusing on it, I give creep-take my vote of confidence. I give creep-cake an understandable interpretation. Creep-s[t]ake doesn't cut it. Note: ''Get headphones!'' Props to 208.60.233.43 for mentioning that you listened to it with them, but I think your reasoning is flawed by saying Homestar has a lisp. I also think that your headphones or brain is putting to much emphasis on the white-noise feature created around the hard consonants T and K by the reduced sound quality. Perhaps try to "trick" your brain into thinking that it's "take" and see if you can hear it then. You can practice with the ''I think you're cute / I hate your shoes'' line in [[disconnected]]. I'm able to hear it both ways there, but I can't do it with take/stakes. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:Creep-take is what it sounds most like, but it could easily be creepcake and for portmanteaus it makes more sense. So, how do we list this on [[portmanteaus]]? Or do we? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::No, we don't, because you just said it sounds like creeptake. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:16, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::If we can reach a concesus well enough to put it in this article (unlike the ''I think you're cute / I hate your shoes'' debate you brought up), I think we can safely use the concesus to extend this term to the portmanteaus page. Anyway, more and more it seems (to me) that "creepcake" is what it is. The whole cupcake vs. crabcake question leaves me in doubt, though. I lean toward cupcake, since it's more likely a play on a term of endearment and "crabcake" ain't a term of endearment. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:38, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I hear creeptake. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:19, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Still hearing that myself. I know I've also heard Strong Bad use the phrase "crap-take", but I can't find it. It's part of my point anyway, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:21, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

'''CREEP TAKE doesn't make any SENSE''' as a Homestar line OR a Brothers Chaps line. It is ''nothing''. Creepstakes is Sweepstakes with a "Cr" and it's definitely not "cake" what is wrong with this wiki?? -- [[User:208.60.233.25|208.60.233.25]] 15:25, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:Annnd where does it say that H*R has to make any sense? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:I agree with this guy. It definitely sounds like Creepstakes, i.e. Sweepstakes with a Cr.[[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 05:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::Again, there are no Ss anywhere near the pronounciation of the word. It's take. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:26, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I also vote for Creep-take. I can't hear an S anywhere in the word, especially not at the end. If anything, it might be "creepstake" but I really don't think that's it. ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 04:00, 2 November 2007 (UTC))
::::Like the OP said, though, Creep-take doens't have any logical explanation that anyone has offered. Maybe it's Creepskate, like cheapskate. How do you sign posts?[[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 05:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Why does there NEED to be any logic to it? It's Homestar Runner. (And you can sign posts by typing 4 tildes, or <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:51, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::Thanks for that. Anyway, it just seems like there must be a rationale for the construction Homestar uses. And I just listened to it again and I still here the S's, especially at the end. But alas. [[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 05:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Speakers? Headphones? Did you try using the listening method I described to see why the other side thinks they hear what they hear? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

As of right now,
* Take: BazookaJoe, DorianGray, Heimstern, Some kind of scientist, (Jay), OptimisticFool
* Cake: <s>OptimisticFool</s>, 83.67.65.98, (Jay)
* Stake(s): 208.60.233.XX, 134.174.140.208
* Sake: TTEchidna

Did I miss anybody? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:Sorry I'm late to the party, but I was just re-watching last year's toon, [[Happy Hallow-day]], and noticed that when The Goblin appears, Strong Bad says "What's this crap-take?" Perhaps Homestar's "creep-take" is a reference? — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 20:49, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::I changed my vote (back) to creep-take. As much as I'd like it to be a portmanteau of creep and cupcake, it just isn't. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 21:06, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I listened to the audio at the voice studio where I do occasional voice-overs for anime, I'm not going to say "ZOMG THEY HAS THE BEST SOUND EQUIPMENT EVAR" but it's easy for them to digitall record, isolate, enhance, etc. Homestar is saying "Creep-Stakes", but the "s" sounds are hard to hear because of his special way of talking (Not a lisp, but if you listen to how he speaks, he says "S" differently than what one would consider "normal" along with the fact that the line is delivered quickly. Once and for all, it's definitely "Creepstakes". I'll e-mail TBC and see if they reply on this subject if you guys keep pressing it based on your personal opinion rather than what's on the audio. -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 20:43, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:Feel free, but knock it off with the assumptions of bad faith. We do hear "creep-take"; it's not an attempt to push our opinions off on the article, and the fact that you are convinced we are wrong does not make it so. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 20:47, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::Anony, will you provide us with an enhanced audio file, since you went to the trouble..? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:48, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Haha. Sure. Next time I'm in the studio I'll see if I can get them to load the site ''again'', enhance the audio ''again'', and put the file on a disk for me. That is, if TBC don't reply before the next session I'm hired for. -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 20:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::::That'd be great, thanks. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:57, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'm not assuming bad faith, you are by reverting the correct info. I've given nothing but rock-solid evidence in the form of the quote not making sense, meaning nothing, and having no relation to any work past or present that TBC have done - and you basically have the support of a handful of people who looked at this page. (And not even ALL the people who did.) If someone came along and edited "Hey, Homestar!" to "Play, Romroar!" because that's what they 'heard' another character say, you'd revert it for being obviously wrong, correct? Well, you guys are doing that. -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 20:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Clearly, it is not "obviously wrong" if several people hear it that way and only a few hear it the other way. You comparison is invalid. Furthermore, your argument that this quote makes no sense is hardly convincing: "creepstake" makes no more sense in the context than "creep-take" does. Frankly, anonny, you could afford to consider that possibility ''you'' might be wrong on this. And even if you're not, it's only a wiki about dumb animal characters. If we get one letter wrong, it's not going to hurt anyone. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::::It's obviously wrong because Creep-take is nothing and Creepstakes is a portmaneu of Creep and Sweepstakes. Creepstakes makes more sense than Creep-take, and there's no two ways about that. I'm sorry, but you can't say Creepstakes makes no sense as it's a portmaneu, which TBC famously include all the time. Getting 'two' letters wrong won't hurt anyone - except for the site's correct contents and the script TBC worked on. '''I've e-mailed TBC on this''' and hopefully they'll get back to me. When they do, I wholly expect you guys to debate TBC's own reply! lol! -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 21:14, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

After a rehearing, I am not entirely convinced it is "creep-take": there is a sound that might be an S in there. But I am far from convinced that it actually is "creepstake". {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:06, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:Thank you for rehearing. It makes all the difference, doesn't it? Whew, glad to see this, thank you. (and yeah we may not agree but thanks for questioning 'creep-take') -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 21:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I hear "creepcake", and that also makes the most sense to me, too. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

:Using Cool Edit Pro, I applied two filters: Doppler Shifter (Ambulance), then Normalize. I didn't expect the first filter to do anything helpful, but it seems to be clearer, and Normalize brought the volume back up since the first filter dropped it a bit. I hope this helps. If not, I tried. {{User:TheGirl/sig}} 02:35, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
::{{Audio|Creep.ogg|Listen to the (filtered) quote}}
:::I must conceed that the filtered version sounds like either creepcake or creeptake, rather than creepstakes... sadness : ( sorry other anony [[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 03:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

== Length ==
I saw on the "Teaser Page" (Link leads to specific page, look under "Toon Title" at about the middle.) [[Talk:Jibblies 2 Teaser]] that this toon would "be amazing" if it exceeded 6 minutes. Is that important? Because I didn't see anything under Remarks about the toon being 6:44 and if it that was important to the original poster, would it have any relevance in the Remarks section of the information? Thanks [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 16:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
: I don't suppose its 7:06 if u include homsar's scene or anything, is it? -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 18:06, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe you're referring to me, Stinkoblade? I didn't say it would be "amazing" .. I used the words "nice" and "great". Anyway, running time is listed above the transcript, no sense posting a remark about it below the transcript. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:46, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Sorry, I didn't remember exact words. I can understand that now, but what about like it is on SBEmails where it mentions longest or longest until another came out. That is what I was asking about when I wrote this.
According to the Toons menu, this is the longest Holiday toon to date, can this be important now? [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 13:04, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

== Clickable button ==

In the answering machine scene, the right button on the machine is clickable. I was thinking maybe it would yield an Easter Egg, but no. Can any of the Flash-knowledgeable advise whether that's just because they recycled a Flash file, or is this noteworthy? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I'm no expert, but I'm gonna assume it's because they recycled a Flash file. Nothing happens when you click it except it messes up the scene, effectively ruling out it being an Easter Egg, and recall that TBC have made these kind of mistakes before, primarily with the VCR and the Tandy and Compy's contrast buttons. -{{User:YK/sig}} 18:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Um, I just cleared my cache so I could see the "new" version with the KOT and Poopsmith easter eggs, and now I can't click the button, so I'll assume it's fixed and note it on the page.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 22:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, that more or less confirms that it was just a glitch/flash artifact, at least. -{{User:YK/sig}} 22:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Sad ==

Should it be remarked that Strong Sad's eyes would be behind his fat kid mask, in comparison to his mouth? Or that it's odd that it's a white face, as opposed to a flesh-colored one? Heck, he pretty much just has a different head. Like the KOT when he dressed up as the mayor of Halloween Town. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 18:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:actually, the KOT still had his own head, he just had the mayor's facial features stuck/painted on [[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 23:19, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, not to mention he had a face on the other side of his head. So....is this a good remark then? --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

==Title Card==

The title card is holographic/3D. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:No it's not. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

It looks a little holographic, but it's probably just a random grindhouse-y effect. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 18:40, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

== Jibblied Bubs ==

The way Bubs said "uh, jibblies" reminded me of Homestar saying "uh, crapface" instead of kicking the Cheat in [[replacement]], but that's probably a coincidence. Want to see if anyone saw it too. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 23:05, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I thought of that too. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

== Where We're Going We Don't Need Rides ==

Is it possible the reason they decided to dress the Poopsmith as Doc Brown was because the Back to the Future ride closed this year? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:That sounds a little extreme... {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 00:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I'd say it's about as likely as them using him on The Poopsmith because he's Doc BROWN. --[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 02:11, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== Electric Cacodemon ==

Did anyone notice the electrical noises coming from the jibblied Pom Pom? Or is that just another addition with the fixed glitches? -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 00:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== The TIME Mirror ==

I understand the Big Lebowski idea, but could the mirror also be a reference to when Time named "You" Person of the Year and had a mirror on the cover? I added it just to be safe, even though it might drive the mirror into TTATOT territory.
:See [[Talk:Jibblies 2#About the mirror]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:That comment had already been made, and removed. Personally, I don't think the "You" cover of Time magazine is a strong enough reference to be noteworthy. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== Razor blade apples ==

I think that the razor blade apples could be a reference to the "I Luv Halloween" comic book.
where the characters put razor blades in an apple, give it to a policeman and then frame the old woman who gave it to them on Halloween.
:The razor-blade apple urban myth certainly predates the 2005 comic book. Given the nature of that book (going by what I read over at Wikipedia), I seriously doubt it's something TBC would reference directly anyway. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
It's the [http://www.snopes.com/horrors/mayhem/needles.asp Urban Legend]. 100%. --[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 04:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== WhoDonkis ==

Y'know, I really don't think Homestar is saying, "The Donkis must be stopped!" It sounds a lot more like Poodonkis/Pudonkis. I know, I'm just as confused as you are when it comes to the name, but it's definitely not ''The'' Donkis. This leads me to believe that "Who? Donkis is behind all this?" is not correct either. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:10, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:I heard this myself. It's definitely not just "Donkis". It does, at least, begin with an "oo" sound. Oodonkis. Udonkis? The tag only reads "onkis", so it's hard to say what it is. C'mon, TBC! Show some sketches or a quote of the week that'll clear this up for us! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:17, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::I think I get what you're saying, but the thing's name is on its tag and there doesn't seem to be much space for more letters. (If it IS something other than "Donkis", expect a QoW or something.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:14, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::Upon pulling out my headphones to check another line, I noticed that... you're absolutely right. There's a clear consonant (I think a "P") and "oo" sound both times Homestar says the dino's name. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Let's go with Pudonkis as a good guess of spelling. Fine with everybody? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::::'Swhat I hear, too. I think it's a portmanteau of Donkis and the [[Wikipedia:Pudong|Pudong]] district of Shanghai. (Not really, but hey, crackpot theories are better than none, right?) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::The first time I swear he says "Cute Donkis," but the second time is so not clear. [[User:Kevinchai|Kevinchai]] 21:10, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::I changed my mind, it actually is Pudonkis.
:::::::It has to be Pudonkis. I almost moved the page, but wasn't sure this is "case closed" yet.. when it is, someone else can move [[Donkis]] to [[Pudonkis]]. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:41, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I think, at this point, the only real question is the spelling (it could be "Poodonkis".) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:42, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I think that the name is Donkis, and Homestar has a habit of forgetting names and words, so it comes later as Pudonkis. In 50 e-mails, he forgot the word "deleted". In looking old, he called Homsar "Homestar."[[User:StrongBadFan99998|StrongBadFan99998]] 04:18, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I myself thought his name was Drew Donkis, before I read the transcript. Then it said "Who, Donkis is behind all this?". But now it says "Pudonkis is behind all this?". I am still thinking that his name is Drew Donkis. Why? it's [[Strong Mad|Strong Mad's]]. What does that have to do with anthing? Because in [[the facts|the facts]], Strong Mad named his claymation dinosaur [[Doug the dino|Doug the dino]]. [[Image:cantsayjob.png|20px]] [[User:Don't say jorb 101|Don't say jorb 101]] [[Image:cantsayjob.png|20px]] 7:54, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::What does doug have to do with anything? It's a different name. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::Strong Mad acts like a little kid sometimes. And what do little kid's do but name stuffed animals stuff like "Benny" or "Johnny". Doug the dino and Drew Donkis might be Strong Mad's names for his dinosaurs.
::::::::::[[Image:cantsayjob.png|20px]] [[User:Don't say jorb 101|Don't say jorb 101]] [[Image:cantsayjob.png|20px]] 7:53 PM, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

:This week's [[Quote of the Week]] confirms it. It's spelled Poodonkis.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 22:06, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
::Off topic but wiki related: Do TBC specifically tailor their quotes to clear up ambiguities on the wiki?? [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 01:13, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Sometimes it sure looks that way, though of course this is over a month overdue for clearing up this one. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:14, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

== 1984 ==

Ok. This is big. Follow me here. At the beginning and ending of the cartoon is the pumpkin card with the Roman numeral "23" under it. OK, this is because the deck only has 22 cards...BUT...23 years ago...was 1984. I realize that it was pointed out above that there's a Nickelodeon connection. OK. There's a MASSIVE 1984 connection.

In 1984 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Volkoff#Career Volkoff Teamed up with the Iron Sheik.] 
In 1984 the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Can%27t_Do_That_On_Television#Nickelodeon top rated children's show in America was ''You Can't Do That On Television''] 
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_To_The_Future ''Back to the Future'' was 1985]...ok...that's close...and...time travel...off by a year. Also, in 1984, John De Lorean's cars faced tremendous problems as he was arrested for coke. Remeber, in the movie... 
So So Def was founded by Jermaine Dupree in [http://www.musicianguide.com/biographies/1608004503/Jermaine-Dupri.html 1984.] 
In 1984 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Jackson Jesse Jackson] ran for president, not Sharpton, even though today they are generally said in the same breath. HOWEVER, Sharpton [http://www.answers.com/topic/al-sharpton first received national attention in 1984] for leading public outcry against the relaxed treatment towards [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Goetz Bernard Goetz] 
Richard Scarry wrote five books in 1984; [http://www.amazon.com/Richard-Scarrys-Busy-Learn-Book/dp/0307155404/ref=sr_1_449/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-449 ''Busy Fun and Learn Book''], [http://www.amazon.com/Pig-Will-Wont-Manners-Knee-High/dp/0394865855/ref=sr_1_452/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-452 ''Pig Will and Pig Won't''], [http://www.amazon.com/Meet-Animals-Scarry-Word-Book/dp/0600389731/ref=sr_1_453/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-453 ''Meet the Animals''], [http://www.amazon.com/Holiday-Scarry-Word-Book/dp/060038974X/ref=sr_1_454/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-454 ''On Holiday''], and finally most significantly...[http://www.amazon.com/Lowly-Worms-Bath-Richard-Scarry/dp/0394868382/ref=sr_1_451/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-451 ''Lowly Worm's Bath''] 
I don't know that much about Cacodemons. In 1984 [http://www.amazon.ca/Cacodemon-roi-B-Chartreux/dp/2853760456 ''Cacodemon Roi''] was written, and the [third version of D&D was in late 1983, which apparently uses these things. 
In the 1980's ''The Far Side'' was huge, and the first [http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&EAN=9780836220629 ''Far Side Gallery''] was published. 
Prince's [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_Rain_%28album%29 ''Purple Rain''] was writen in 1984. 
''Dangermouse'' first hit the States on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DangerMouse June 4, 1984.] 
The noony noony typewriter from Sesame Street...the famous [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Hooper death of Mr. Hooper Episode] was Thanksgiving of 1983 (almost '84.) 
The last two are kind of stretches. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_and_Pete ''Pete and Pete''] didn't start until 1993, and the character of Andy was created for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Shame_Theatre No Shame Theater] which started in '86, BUT...ok...the show, Pete and Pete, their Theme Song was written by Polaris...which was founded in ...everybody? [http://www.cannit.com/polaris/polarisbiography.htm Yes, 1984.] 
Then there's Strong Bad. The Xenomorph makes more sense here. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_%28film%29 ''Alien''] was made in '79, but the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_%28video_game%29 video game was made in 1984.] In addition, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridley_Scott Riddley Scott,] who made Alien, made the very famous [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_(television_commercial) 1984 Apple\Macintosh commercial]. 
Beetlejuice however...Beetlejuice was 1989...Ghostbusters was '84, and some sites seem to have that confused ([http://www.cinemetrics.lv/saltdb.php A], [http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-53635650.html%3Frefid%3Dgg_x_02&sa=X&oi=archive&ct=result&cd=1&usg=AFQjCNE-PwwBX5WjqAcTWwce_JcmZSuHcQ B], [http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-53635746.html%3Frefid%3Dgg_x_02&sa=X&oi=archive&ct=result&cd=2&usg=AFQjCNGQgg1-r9FPvhI6NlAEunsNKsNKmg C], [http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.newspaperarchive.com/newspapers1/na0025/2908843/15884356.html&sa=X&oi=archive&ct=result&cd=3&usg=AFQjCNHrE8oDQcvN264Cr5IPDIAngQpQAQ D,] [http://www.20minutos.es/cine/cartelera/interprete/2404/2/ E])...Keaton was in Johnny Dangerously in 1984...and Burton made Frankenweenie in 1984...''Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy's'' ''So Long and Thanks For All The Fish'' was written in 1984, and Ford Prefect was from the vacinity of Betelgeuse...but ok, on this one...it's a stretch. Maybe because he's Strong Sad's [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brother_%28Nineteen_Eighty-Four%29 Big Brother]. Not sure. 
 
But...two more quotes....One from Homestar..."Brother called up Marzipan right before I ran into you." Not Big Brother? Maybe...but...from the book ''1984''..."It was bliss, it was eternity."
--[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 05:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

:I don't know. Most of these seem to be waaay too much of a stretch to be in the main article. Alien Video game? Okay, a Lowly Worm book was published in 1984, but the character was created long before that. Mr. Hooper's death and the Back to the Future movie are NOT 1984 references, and close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades... {{unsigned|220.19.16.13|06:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)}}

::I have to agree — I think the connections are a quite a stretch. Probably the only reason that there's some connection to 1984 in some of them is that TBC tend to reference things from the '80s. I'm going to remove the info from the article for now (the info I removed can be seen {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Jibblies_2&diff=511747&oldid=511741 here}}). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

::: But wait, you forgot a reference. XXIII represents 23, right? Well 23 is also the name of a movie made in '07 about the number 23 being numerologically connected to everything. So much so that Jim Carry goes crazy trying to convince everyone of the meaningless connections, and torches his career. CREEPY, hunh? :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 01:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Some are more firm than others. Prince's biggest work was Purple Rain. That's 1984. That's firm. Dangermouse started here in '84. The wrestler became huge in '84. (You have to understand, the teamup wasn't just a "sporting event," it was a rather noted infamous move, they combined a "Russian" and an "Arab" into one "Evil team," that's why he's remembered. Sharpton literally first hit headlines...Farside's first gallery...YCDTOT, in 1984, it was THE #1 show amoung children, that year, and only that year. So So Def started in '84. I mean the rest are iffy, but that's not enough to raise an eyebrow, given the XXIII, seriously? Plus, the 1983 ones, they were all post Halloween, Thanksgiving and Christmas, so they were also both "XXIII" years ago, so yeah, that is close enough outside of both horseshoes, and handgrenades--[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 11:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC).
:I'm not into elaborate conspiracy theories. This is what Homestar would call a coinkydink. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::(he would?) [[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 23:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::OK, so Homestar would say, "Yeah, yeah, you're pwobabwy wight." But everybody else would say it's a coincidence. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 04:10, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Fhqwhgads ==

I noticed when the painting is about to jibblie Strong Bad, he says his normal "Come on in here!" However, he says the first "come on" like in the song "Everybody to the Limit."

Confirm?
--[[User:144.80.83.157|144.80.83.157]] 18:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:I think he's just trying to emphasize the "come on", and add a little suspense. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 18:50, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
-
I think it's a reference.([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 17:29, 5 November 2007 (UTC))
:I'm not convinced. It sounds to me more like simply adding pauses between the words. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
::I think it's a reference. The sudden drop out of the background music seems to give special focus to the words, and the Rocoulm has definitely used other character references - like Marzipan's answering machine and showing up in the midst of Strong Sad's nerdiness. ([[User:Meltingemail|Meltingemail]] 03:23, 9 November 2007 (UTC))
i can listen to opening part of song in my head and mix with roculm's "come on" and yeah that sounds exactly like it. prob still for the suspense though . [[User:Imdaman]]
== Horrible Painting Card Number ==

The Horrible Painting tarot card is numbered "II" which is the Roman numeral 2. This relates to the fact that this is "Jibblies 2". It's a very quick thing that belongs on the Trivia section as people most likely don't notice - and the Brothers Chaps did put that little touch in. '''Please stop removing it just because I'm not registered'''. I say that because it's valid trivia (As valid as what the tarot cards say on the back!) and yet it keeps getting removed when other stuff isn't. It's a true fact, and it's real trivia. So stop it. >:O -- [[User:208.60.233.43|208.60.233.43]] 22:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:Hmmm, but how do you know it's II because of the toon's title? Couldn't it be coincidence? It's really a guess, that's why it shouldn't be on there. Please don't be frustrated by this, it happens to all of us, even sysops. Keep on tranglin'!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::By the way, if you think people aren't taking your edits seriously because you're unregistered, you could [[Special:Userlogin|change that quickly]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:59, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::And the 666 on Marzipan's answering machine could be a coincidence. :D heh. Sorry to get so mad, but... It's crazy how wikis get to the point that people just lie in wait for something to delete. It's like writing "the sky is blue" in an article and someone says "You don't know that for sure" and removes it. -- [[User:208.60.233.25|208.60.233.25]] 15:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Pretty Good, ..? ==
Horrible Painting says, "How's it going, man?" and Homestar responds: "Pretty good, ____________" .. how do we fill in the blank? "Creep-take"? That's what I hear; it sure doesn't sound like the recent change to "creep-stakes".. Neither makes sense, unless someone can explain it to me. Ideas? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:26, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
: Some poster said that Homestar has problems with the letter "S" as justification for "Creepstakes", but that's not true — "R" is the letter Homestar has problems with. I don't recall him ever having a problem with "S". I'm with either -cake or -take. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, maybe creepcake. As a portmanteau of creep and cupcake.. That could be. I say we stick with creepcake, unless we get a QOTW or something to contradict it. It makes the most sense.. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:40, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Hey, y'alls, perhaps you'd like to relocate your responses to [[#Creep...wha?]]. But please read our responses too! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Oops, sorry about that. I didn't read the whole page, and didn't see that convo as I skimmed the TOC. I should have done a Ctrl-F. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::No probalo. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:16, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::Homestar does have a SLIGHT problem with "S", it sometimes comes out as a semi-lisp. -- [[User:208.60.233.25|208.60.233.25]] 15:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Gibbliet ==

Who do so many think the KoT is saying "Giblet giblet giblet" when he's jibblified? There is an unmistakable long "E" sound and no trace of a "T". Yes, he says "giblet" a couple of lines earlier, but that doesn't mean it's what he says when he actually has the jibblies. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:40, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:I listened to them one at a time; each time he is saying "giblet" .. Besides believing my ears, The KoT saying "giblet" is in-character hilarity. Makes perfect sense. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:: So why the long "E"s? He IS saying a long "E" sound each time, and he does NOT the one time he really says "giblet". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:59, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't hear long e's i hear "giblet" {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:01, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Listen with headphones. Keep the volume high-ish (not so high you blow out your ears, of course, but it helps.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:14, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::PS. I mean it helps to use headphones and turn up the volume.
:::::Sorry, Jay, I don't hear it either. Just "giblet" with a little schwa sound stuck between the syllables. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:22, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::ME TOO. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:24, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::How can I be the only person to hear it? No matter when I pause, no matter how closely I listen (in fact, the closer I listen, the better I hear it), no matter how many times, I ALWAYS hear the long "E" in the KoT's "Jibblie jibblie" bit. Every single time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:30, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I also hear "Jibblie"... but I can kinda almost hear "giblet" if I really try for it. The long E is cut a little short, the stop just before the J starts a little earlier than normal... which almost sounds like a "T" if I do the aural equivalent of tilting my head and squinting... but it's still definitely "Jibblie". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:57, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I hear a string of "giblet"s. I remember thinking so when I first saw the toon, and it sounded the same a few minutes ago when I listened again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

== Reference to a web comic? ==

I removed the so-called reference "Pudonkis the Dromiceiomimus stands in the same pose as the Dromiceiomimus from Dinosaur Comics." Now it's back, with the claim that the "author seems to think [it's a reference] (check out the news for 30 Oct)" .. ahem .. The author of a web comic assuming a reference does not make it so. [http://www.qwantz.com/archive/001095.html The Dromiceiomimus is the white one.] Opinions? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:02, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:The additional bit of information is that the particular strip I liked to has a H*R reference (namely [[Fhqwhgads]]). It seems highly likely that there is a little mutual appreciation, combined with a very parclulular pose and and an uncommon dinosaur which just happens to be part of the comic. To me, that seems more than just coincidence nor TTATOT. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::A dinosaur as obscure as a "dromiceiomimus", standing in the exact same pose that the character Dromiceiomimus stands in for every single episode of a very-popular webcomic (one which has even been referenced in a [http://www.fool.com/personal-finance/saving/2007/10/18/dont-save-like-tyrannosaurus-rex.aspx Motley Fool article]), which has previously slipped in references to H*R - I think this one is indisputable. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:06, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, it certainly is disputable! But to me, it seems likely that this is a reference - solely based on SB saying the whole name instead of just "dinosaur". That's definitely a hint.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:23, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, the "parclulular" pose doesn't sell me, but once again I'm out of my element. I don't have an appreciation for web comics whatsoever and certainly wouldn't know which ones are popular. This one in "parclulular" doesn't appear to be entertaining in the least (granted, that's my opinion, but everyone's entitled to my opinion), so how could I know that it's popular? And popularity doesn't necessarily make it a reference, but if it's such a slam dunk, keep it. Whatever. Oh, and I don't mind saying that I don't know what a Motley Fool is, either. And don't waste keystrokes explaining it to me. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::It's a reference. Especially coming on the heels of the recent SBemail "Web Comics", which shows The Bros. know their, well, Web Comics. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 04:15, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:When have you ever even heard of a dromiceiomimus except in Dinosaur Comics? It's not like Pudonkis is a stegosaurus or a T-rex, or even a pachycephalosaurus or a dimetrodon. This is a seriously obscure species of dinosaur. The likelihood of TBC choosing it randomly, AND putting it in the same strange, awkward posture as that of the dromiceiomimus in Dinosaur Comics by sheer coincidence, is extremely low. Especially since it means they'd have to have never seen Dinosaur Comics before, and it's clear from [[web comics]] that they read at least a few web comics. -invisible_map

== Horrible Rocoulm ==

I think there should be better seperation between the terms Rocoulm and Horrible Painting. It's a little confusing in the transcript because the image on the tarot card is just of Rocoulm sans canvas, and when Homestar steps inside the painting, he's not inside Rocoulm himself. The way it's worded now has Homestar steping into the painting and then talking to the painting, from inside it's belly or something. The character's name is Rocoulm and the Horrible Painting is his domicile.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 02:40, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:The horrible painting itself doesn't talk, the subject of the painting does! So, I agree. Separate. It should read: "...the Horrible Painting approaches him from behind.} '''ROCOULM:''' Come on in heeeeeeere.... " etc. Any naysayers? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::Thing is, despite how confidently it's stated on the Horrible Painting's page, we actually don't know the name of the subject of the painting - we just THINK it's Rocoulm because we don't know what else "Rocoulm" could mean. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:19, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Well if we're going to state it so confidently somewhere else, shouldn't it be the same wiki-wide? Well, I don't think it's a big deal to call it Rocoulm, but if we can't, how about at least call it "Demon Holding a Tourch"? That would do just as well for cutting confusion.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 23:41, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
::::We could just call him the Horrible Painting Demon, eh?--[[User:Spirit-O-Saint-Loolie|Spirit-O-Saint-Loolie]]

== Marzipan's smile ==

Anyone else notice that Marzipan stops smiling during Homestar's easter egg for no adequately explored reason? Maybe she's still pissed off about what Homestar said to her during ''her'' easter egg, but that's an unusual disconnect.
:They probably forgot to change it, not after Marzipan's easter egg, but after Bubs'. She also stops smiling in The Poopsmith's and The King of Town's easter eggs, which were added later. {{User:Mee/sig}} 09:39, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Nightmare Before Christmas? ==
Looks like the odd colors inside the painting may be a reference to this black light scene in Nightmare Before Christmas. Anyone?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DnH_OJcpZYQ
*I think it's more a reference to the fact that it's a black light painting. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 02:15, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
*It was probably to match the cartoony style of the Horrible Painting. And I don't get the immediate connection to blacklight. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 18:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

== Holy Water? ==

When Strong Bad says he Needs Holy Water, It is a referance to Castlevania. - Toonypie
*No, it's not. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 02:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Holy Water is an old, old cliche associated with horror films, mainly vampire and werewolf films. Castlevania was only carrying on the tradition. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 18:28, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

== Inverted colors? ==

I don't think Homestar's colors are inverted when he's inside the Horrible Painting. If you copy paste an image of him in the Horrible Painting onto a program such as MS Paint, and invert the colors, Homestar does not go back to his regular colors. [[User:Thrashmeister|Thrashmeister]] 15:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
: You're right. The magenta-and-white stripes on Homestar's shirt would be green-and-black when inverted, and his yellow wig would be blue. Actually, Homestar's shirt is red-and-blue striped and his wig is brown. I removed the fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:12, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

== Person of the Year 2006 Reference ==

I really want to delete the reference to the time Magazine "You" cover, but it's gone back and forth several times already so there's obviously someone who thinks it's a noteworthy reference. (Can I request that it be STUFF'd?) -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 17:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
:Seriously, why can't this be a double reference? I saw the screen cap you posted which convinced me of the Big Lebowski reference, but the nature of the 2006 Person of The Year cover makes it plausible as an additional reference. (We are talking about an internet cartoon show, after all— exactly the sort of content that the Time article was targeting.) It really does work either way. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 18:20, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
::While your point regarding the "targeted content" is what I'd consider the most convincing argument so far for inclusion of PotY 06 as a reference, there just isn't enough in the toon to convince me that there's any relation. Examples of things that would be evidence of such: If it looked at all like the cover in question, if it said "Person of the Year", or "2006" or "You", if the mirror was all crinkly and distorted like the foil ones used for that issue, or if Strong Mad made a comment to the effect that "YOU ARE PERSON OF THE YEAR!" I will admit, however, that it really doesn't matter whether it's there or not - it's just a Wiki about a cartoon. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:12, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:Agree with Father Ted. I don't think the "You" cover fits very well, especially since there's a much more obvious reference choice. I also think it's about time to STUFF this but a lot of people get touchy about that so I don't have the guts to start it.([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 17:27, 5 November 2007 (UTC))
::Nor do I. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:12, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Personally, I think the way the "Time" mirror fact is worded now (no Lebowski, no 2006 cover) seems to be best way. It gets at the base reference. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:00, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
::I disagree, since it's now simply stating the obvious. Given the [[The Big Lebowski|history of references to the movie]], I think it's fair to say that it's a Big Lebowski reference. While Loafing claims the fact was "patently false" as written, probably based on the "exactly the same" wording, I figure it should read "...very similar to a mirror shown in the film..." I know I prompted a STUFF of the "You" cover, but here I'd be tempted to STUFF the Lebowski thing. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

== CGA, not CMYK ==

I would question the link to the CMYK color model on the remark about Homestar in the painting...the colours are reminiscent of [[Wikipedia:Color_Graphics_Adapter|CGA graphics]], a very old graphics standard, while images in the CMYK colour model have no particular affinity for the colours cyan, magenta, yellow, or black. --[[User:Danaris|Danaris]] 16:09, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
:I agree that CMYK doesn't really make sense in that context, but I wouldn't peg it as CGA, either. It appears to be more a "black light" color thing. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

== Meh! ==

As those of you who have been to my talk page (two or three of ya, probably) know, I pride myself in my fluency of a-da Cheeeat. I think I understand his lines while in [[The House of the Brothers Strong]], so I'm gonna go ahead and be '''bold''' and edit them into the commentary. If anyone has any problems with what I added, you know who to blame. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 12:33, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
:No, that's bad, we never put words into the cheat's mouth. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:10, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
::Okay, new question. Do we have a style manual here? Because if we don't, we should add one. See [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Manual_of_style Wookieepedia] for a good example of another wiki's special rules.
::My point here is simply that we should add a rule that the Cheat's words are never added to his speech, unless we come to a decision that it's ''really, really'' clear, like that time in [[coloring]] when he said "Okay." --[[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 13:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
:::[[HRWiki:Manual of Style|Yes, we have a manual of style]]. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 13:52, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
::::But guys, The Cheat got the Jibblies. We should put down on the transcript that The Cheat starts making Jibblie-ish noises instead of saying he continues screaming. It really isn't putting words in his mouth. {{User:Neox/sig}} 16:47, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::I wouldn't object to a mention of "Jibblie-ish" noises, but I don't think the rest of it is necessary.[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 21:56, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

== Killer Instinct music? ==

All right, being as though I'm a staff member of SNESMusic.org, I know a bit more about SNES music than is probably healthy.

A recent fun fact states that the music in the toon was "based on" music from Killer Instinct, but going by the existing SPC soundtrack, I'm gonna have to conclude one of two things... One, the SPC set is missing a song, or two, the fact is... well, wrong.

Either way, could whoever added that fact be a bit more specific? -{{User:YK/sig}} 08:54, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
:See [[Image:HR vs KI.ogg]] for a comparison. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:36, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

== Is That Come On In Here A Come On In Here? ==

I noticed that in the easter egg transcript, the "come on in here" is in the form of question . . . is it really? It didn't sound like the Horrible Painting was asking a question. -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]] 23:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, but he sounds somewhat uncertain. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::No he doesn't. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes he does, listen real closely. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I did, and he doesn't, and going back and forth with "yes he did", "no he didn't" isn't going to help anyone, so unless you have something new to say, let's wait for some more opinions. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:33, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:It's very very clear that his inflexion goes up towards the end of the sentence. Very very clear evidence of a question. [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]]
::Yeah, sounds like a question to me, too. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:44, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Why would it be a question? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:54, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Because Homsar is well-known in the Homestar Runner universe for being an odd duck, even to the point where the horrible painting guy might be aware of it. It seems probable that he was nervous about even talking to Homsar, so in crept some doubt that led him to phrasing his "come on in here" in a way that it sounded like a question. And it turns out he was right to be nervous because Homsar ended up giving him the jibblies. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::'Xactly. I agrees with the Fool. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Not that I'm in disagreement or anything, if this is the case, I'm wondering why the Horrible Painting decided to let The Goblin in . . . but I'm pretty sure I'm thinking too hard about this. -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]] 23:01, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::I, too, think it sounds like a question. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 17:38, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== STUFF of the year ===
{{stufffact|The [[Wikipedia: Person of the Year|Time Magazine Person of the Year]] mirror that Strong Mad uses at the beginning of the cartoon refers to Time Magazine's "Person of the Year" award. '''It more specifically refers to the 2006 issue of the award, in which they chose to honor "You."'''}}
The vote was only on the part in '''bold'''.

{{stuffverdict|01:56, 6 November 2007 (UTC)|02:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)|unanimously declined|10|0|Jibblies 2}}

== Costume name glitches ==

Has anybody noticed that when you click and hold somebody at the end, then drag your mouse to Homsar, the names overlap? Seems like something that should be put in the glitches section. [[User:Gollum999|Gollum999]] 05:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:That's not really a notable glitch... It's something very typical of Flash, I think. The Main Pages do that all the time. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:57, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
::Well yeah, but its listed as a glitch in the main page section, right? [[User:Gollum999|Gollum999]] 16:11, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

==The LOADING==
Is this a possible reference to the Highlander II: The Quickening? They're making fun of sequel conventions, and Highlander II is a famously bad sequel. That's the first thing that sprung to mind when I saw the loading screen. --[[User:129.237.88.160|129.237.88.160]] 08:22, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think so. All the tarot cards in the toon begin with "The", and the one on the loading screen is no exception. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:24, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

== Jibblies Page Unlinked? ==

This seems so obvious that I figure I'm simply overlooking it, but shouldn't [[Jibblies]] be linked somewhere in this article? -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

==Jibble Jibblies==
Looks like Homsar ''reflected'' the jibblies causing the [[Horrible Painting]] to get the jibblies. {{User:HAJ/sig}} 22:35, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
:To me, it appears that the Horrible Painting's jibblies had no effect, and Homsar responded with his ''own'' jibblies rays from his hat. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 23:34, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
::I agree with the Reverend. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:35, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I agree with HAJ, But we never know like Sweet Cuppin' Cakes
::::This is all speculation. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:55, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

== Ushanka ==

Under Explanations:
*A [[Wikipedia:Ushanka|ushanka]] ... is a round fur hat, usually black, traditionally worn by Russian men. ...
Er... We're adding an explanation "fun fact" to explain something that only exists on the page because ''we'' used an obscure word in the transcript? Isn't that a little convoluted and self-indulgent? I'm going to take this out and simplify the transcript. If others feel strongly that this article needs to educate people about what a ushanka is, then put it in Remarks where it belongs. I generally expect Explanations to explain things that appeared the toon itself. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:58, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

:Immediately reverted as "important". But why don't we explain that the thing around Sarducci Bad's neck is called a [[Wikipedia:Stole|stole]], and it's used in Roman Catholic vestments with various symbolic colors? (Oops! He's wearing red in the wrong season!) Or that the thing around Marziprince's neck is called a [http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/jabots jabot], and it was a common style in the 18th century?

:Because their only relevance to the toon is that they're duplicating the costumes of external characters. Once I know who each costume is supposed to be, details about why the originals dressed that way usually don't enhance my enjoyment of the toon. Especially when it boils down to something as mundane as, "Strong Mad wears a stereotypically Russian hat," when Nikolai Volkoff was obviously a stereotypical Russian character.

:On top of that, it makes the article hard to read when there's a word nobody knows listed in the Transcript with the explanation pages lower, and then a word nobody knows explained in the Fun Facts with no mention of it in the toon. Like I said, if it's really "important", put it in one spot: Remarks. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:11, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

::I'm inclined to agree with TheNicestGuy. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I can see both sides of this argument, but I agree with TheNicestGuy for leaving it colloquial in the transcript, and then putting\leaving the word and link to ushanka in Explanations. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 05:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Backup is nice, but someone will have to actually do the honors if we're satisfied. I loathe revert wars, so I make it a policy never to make the same edit twice. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

:The fact itself is kinda dubious, methinks, after looking at the wiki article. Ushanka doesn't translate to hat, shapka does, which is what it's called in English-speaking world (indeed, that's the only thing I've heard it called besides generic "Russian hat" and the like). I'd support the fact, (I do like the idea of having a more general term in the transcript), but I think it might need to be reworked. On a similar note, although the had SM wears is instantly recognizable as a stereotypical russian hat, it doesn't seem to have earflaps, which are apparently necessary to truly be a ushanka. Is this important? -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 16:35, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

::Why, yes. Yes it is. Take a look at [http://www.ganges.com/Dynamite_Kid_vs_Nikolai_Volkoff_Wrestling_Classic_1985_v1157022/ this video], which has a few close-ups of Volkoff in his hat. It's not a ushanka! It's sort of a... furry pillbox hat, no flaps. Which is exactly what Strong Mad wears too. Faithful piece of costume, nothing more. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:36, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

== Giblets ==

Should we explain what giblets are? I doubt that very many people know what they are. Or is that not neccesary? [[User:TreeWithAChainsaw|TreeWithAChainsaw]] 22:28, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:Seeing as we explain giblet gravy in [[more armies#Explanations|more armies]], I don't think it's too farfetched to add a fact explaining giblets. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:44, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Jibblies 2

2008-02-26T03:19:19Z

Dynamite: /* Kind of adding */

== 2 things ==
1. this is the first/ maybe 2nd time strong bad closes is eyes
2. strong bad breaks the 4th wall by refrencing the title of the toon
[[User:Foogs|Foogs.]] 22:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

::Not to mention by referring to Coach Z, the Poopsmith and the KOT as "characters." -invisible_map

==Stick Costume==
Does anyone know what [[The Stick]] was supposed to be dressed as? For some random reason, I'm thinking Donald Duck. -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 00:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:nvm, just looked at the costume page. It's so fitting now! -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 00:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::The Stick is Lowly Worm. [[User:207.62.231.2|207.62.231.2]] 00:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I think that you think The Stick is Donald is because of Donald's Robin Hood get-up. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
::::Robin Hood was played by Daffy. Keep your ducks straight! --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 03:58, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::But why do Strong Bad and Homestar insult The Stick? Does it have something to do with the Lowly Worm get up?[[User:128.104.61.243|128.104.61.243]] 19:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::I too would like to know why they both insult The Stick - I don't think there's a history of this? --[[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 16:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Not to reopen old discussions, but does anyone know the answer to this? I don't, so I think it's worth an explaination on the page [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 01:21, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== No Interactivity ==

Does anyone else believe this toon broke a tradition for h*r halloween specials? In 2001, they had that trick-or-treat game, in 2003, they had a brief scene making fun of the trick-or-treat game, and in 2005, they had a potion game. This would be the 1st h*r Halloween special out of the ones released in an odd-numbered year not to include interactivity other than the usual Easter Eggs. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:33, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:...Ummm, yeah. Odd numbered years. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 03:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:...Ummm, yeah. It's 2007.

I agree with Bad Bad Guy; where would I add it, though? the trivia section or the remarks section?

Ya and in every other ween toon also has a party of some sort, this one is actually like a cheesey horror movie!
:If I remember correctly, they had no Halloween parties in 2001, '05, or '06 either. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:25, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

== About the mirror ==

There have been mirrors like that before the release of the Man of the Year 2006 issue (I caught a glimpse of one in a movie when flipping channels). I think saying it is a reference to that exact issue is a bit of a stretch. [[User:207.119.175.50|207.119.175.50]] 00:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the mirror is a reference to an actual mirror of that type, similar to the one featured in The Big Lebowski. (The Dude peers into this mirror in The Big Lebowski's office.) [http://www.popamericana.com/!/Man%20of%20the%20Year.jpg Link] The "You" cover is too big of a stretch, especially when one of Pom-Pom's previous costumes was Walter Sobchak. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 01:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:Big Lebowski - probably. Time magazine - no. It looks EXACTLY like the Big Lebowski mirror and NOTHING like the Time magazine cover. I remember you used to be able to buy those mirrors, a looong time ago. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 18:10, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Was Nikolai Volkoff ever on the cover of Time? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:09, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::No, but neither was The Dude. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:21, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Regardless of Lebowski or MOTY '06, it still refers to Time's Man of the Year practice, doesn't it? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:54, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:That's true, but as written right now, that's already linked to. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:21, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::The reference got edited all up with the "You" business, and then the whole thing got deleted. The Big Lebowski reference is so obvious (see my link above) that I had to put it back in. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Kids Choice Awards ==

When Marzipan says, "I don't know" and then the green slime oozes on her, that was a reference to the Nick Kids Choice Awards.-[[User:Ava|Ava]] 00:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, from what I've heard, the Nickolodeon slime tradition began on YCDTOTV. -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 01:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Regardless of where Nickelodeon got that tradition, that's a *direct* reference to TCDTOTV, where saying "I don't know" would get you slimed. *remembers watching that show as a kid* -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Yep, and as clicking on Ross calls on the scene, I'd say it's an homage to YCDTOTV. It isn't even the first reference to that show on this site. Surprised they didn't throw in a "water" gag too. [[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 04:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::::''{PlasticDiverGuy gets drenched with water}'' (Sorry, I couldn't resist. =P) -{{User:YK/sig}} 06:47, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Shower scene? ==

The following fact was STUFFed — let's see it can be resolved here first:
<blockquote>
Coach Z's shower scene is a reference to the famous shower scene in the horror movie Psycho.
</blockquote>
There was one vote and an argument against, from [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]: "I've seen the original Psycho and it's nothing alike it except they're in a shower." So, what do people think. Is this a reference or not, and why? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:17, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I think that the connection to Psycho is tenuous at best. Coach Z's scene did not feature several closeups of him being attacked, nor was there the trademark high pitched staccato strings. Those would be the strongest connections to the film. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::I think that Coach Z's line before getting attacked is a reference, not the attack itself. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 01:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Wbwolf, I think you're right — if it was a reference to ''Psycho'', they really would have used the trademark music. More likely, it's just a nod to the typical "shower scene" in horror movies (which originated with ''Psycho'', I think). So, mayhaps the fact could be modified to refer to the stereotypical scene, rather than this specific movie. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I'd say this is more generally a reference to the fact that horror film starlettes are so often caught by the bad guy while in the shower. This is perhaps a subclause of the convention that the token hot chick will always die during or immediately following her topless scene. That being said, I don't think this warrants an explanatory note. [[User:Telamon|-Telamon]] 01:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Hey. I'm the guy who originally posted this fact. As soon as Coach Z said that "a pretty thing like him" would be perfectly safe in the shower, I knew that it was a reference to those horror movies in which the heroine dies. Psycho was just the first one to come to mind because it was so well known. -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 02:08, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

==Classic Nick==

There's a classic Nickelodeon theme going.

The Stick: Lowly Worm from Busy World of Richard Scarry: early Nick Jr.

Strong Bad: Beetlejuice, from a cartoon on Nick

Homestar: Artie, from Pete & Pete which was on Nick in the 80s and 90s

Homsar: the Typewriter guy from Sesame Street, which was once on Nick

You Can't Do That On Television- on Nick in the 80s

[[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 01:32, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
: Beetlejuice was not a cartoon that was exclusive to Nickelodeon, but ran on other outlets (including Cartoon Network) throughout the 1990s. I know Sesame Street is on Noggin, Nick/CTW's spin-off, but I don't think it was on Nick proper. Still, three references (two exclusive, since Richard Scarry was also a series of books) is pretty strong. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::What about The Cheat? Was Danger Mouse on Nick too? -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 01:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, it was, as far as I can remember... back in the late '80s, early '90s, I believe. -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

It was on TCC before Nick, however I like the fact that this is my most reconised costume episode so far. [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 19:31, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::Beetlejuice was on Nick in syndication in the 90s. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 20:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

==Marzipan's answering machine==
Have any of you noticed that the number of messages on Marzipan's answering machine is [[Wikipedia:Number of the Beast|666]]? Does that mean the jibblies would have affected everybody
until the're dead?-[[User:Don't say jorb 101|Don't say jorb 101]]
*I am under the impression it's just foreshadowing who the caller is... the number has demonic connotations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast and more specifically http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast#Culture_and_psychology --[[User:70.106.82.44|70.106.82.44]] 03:05, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:It just means that the rocoulm or whatever has taken over the answering machine. Presumably it picking up the call possessed it -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 18:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== MArzipan's guitar ==

Hey did anyone else notice that marzipan's guitar only has five strings?

:Didn't notice it. Her guitar looks like an Edwards PR-100 made by ESP though. (Search "EDWARDS by ESP PR-100" on Google and click the eBay link to see pictures)

== Hammakers Slammakers? ==

I believe that the store when StrongBad tried to find a Xenomorph costume is supposed to be combination of Hammacher Schlemmer, a catalog store for high-end, luxery gifts (like The Sharper Image) and ''Hammer's Slammers'', a series of military science fiction novels and short stories by David Drake.
:Only the first one, as the second one doesn't fit at all. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

== "Human Grate on my nerves" ==

*It sounds like "Human Gettin' on my nerves" to me. Which doesn't make any sense, but that's par for the course, really. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 03:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
**I hear grate. As in grating nerves. --[[User:70.106.82.44|70.106.82.44]] 14:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
***Geez, 0 for two. :( [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 23:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Bad smiling ==

*Is he smiling? I think the curve of the Beetlejuice teeth make it ''look'' as though he's smiling, but if you look closer it's his usual face. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 03:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
: Yes. The whole toon. Follow the contours of his mouth. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Well blow me down, so he is. :/ [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 04:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, he goes back to his normal face right before he gets jibbilied. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:When you wear fake teeth, you wanna show 'em off! Ever see a little kid wearing them on Halloween? All wide grins and growls so you can see the teeth. lol. -- [[User:208.60.233.161|208.60.233.161]] 20:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== misc ==

A) Does anyone notice anything...unusual...about the football trophy?
B) I don't hear Strong Sad saying "Xenomorph." I hear "Beatlemorph" or "Beatleborgs" or something, as if he's trying to say "Beatlejuice" three times.
--[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 04:03, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
: a) What football trophy? The [[golbol]] looks normal to me. b) Strong Sad is clearly saying "Xenomorph"; he's correcting Coach Z's generic use of the word "alien" (in the [[Jibblies 2 Teaser]], a silhouette of a Xenomorph costume is seen in place of Strong Bad.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:22, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::I think he means the football trophy in Strong Mad's room, but I didn't notice anything remarkable about it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Homsar smiling? ==

I don't think I've ever witnessed this happen before. Did he ever have such a wide smile in any other cartoon?--[[User:75.62.6.158|75.62.6.158]] 04:42, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I believe the reason his smile is so wide in this cartoon is to portray his chin as the top of the paper in the typewriter as best as possible without cutting off the top of his head. - [[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 06:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Volkov ==

Someone wrote under "goofs" that "Volkoff" is a misspelling of "Volkov." This is incorrect. Russian uses the Cyrillic alphabet, and there are a number of different ways of transliterating it into ours. I've seen final "v"s and final "ff"s used interchangeably all over the place -- for instance, "Prokofiev" vs. "Prokofieff," "Rachmaninov" vs. "Rachmaninoff." The "v" is the preferred transliteration in academic/linguistic contexts, but in everday use, they're both pretty common. In fact, the Wikipedia article calls him "Volkoff." -invisible_map

: Oops, I watched the toon again, and TBC spell it "Volkov," so I must have misread the "goofs" section. Either way, though, they're both acceptable spellings.

:Transliteration from the Russian alphabet really isn't the issue though. If Strong Mad is meant to be the former WWE wrestler Nikolai Volkoff, the Brothers Chaps made a spelling mistake, since the name has always been Volkoff in English. - [[User:Boffo97|Boffo97]] 13:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

:: Traditional spellings of names from languages with different writing systems are sometimes changed to more accurately reflect the pronunciation. For instance, "Mao Tse-Tung" is usually spelled "Mao Zedong" now. Sometimes the old spelling is so well-known that change is slow to catch on -- for instance, people almost always write "Lao-Tzu" for the Daoist/Taoist philosopher, even though "Laozi" is the preferred spelling among people who study this stuff. Same thing with "Prokofiev" (which has totally displaced "Prokofieff" vs. "Rachmaninov" (which is still less common than "Rachmaninoff"). Here's my point: even if "Volkoff" is the traditional and more common spelling, "Volkov" is not *wrong*. In fact, it's probably closer to the way it actually sounds in Russian (though I'd want to ask a Russian-speaker to verify that). And "Nikolai Volkov" gets 11,000 hits on Google.

:::Yes, I know what transliteration is. The point is, despite its appearance, the name "Nikolai Volkoff", as relates to the former pro wrestler, was never in the Russian alphabet. It was devised in English. It was flashed on screen before every one of his matches. Therefore, *for this case*, "Nikolai Volkoff" is correct, and "Nikolai Volkov" is wrong. If we were dealing with a name devised in a non English alphabet we were transliterating, then what you were saying would be correct. We are not. - [[User:Boffo97|Boffo97]] 19:17, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Re "I know what transliteration is": I'm sorry if you thought I was being patronizing. I wasn't trying to explain what transliteration was -- I was talking about how it changes historically, which you didn't seem to be taking into account. But I didn't realize that "Nikolai Volkoff" wasn't his real name until now. Since he totally made it up, you're right. Never mind!

:::::Even if a name changes historically, if we're dealing with people who have made their own transition from another alphabet to ours, they are the ones who are picking how the transliteration occurs. Suppose Nikolai Volkoff was his real name. Or even that his family had a few generations in this alphabet using the Volkoff spelling. It'd be the height of arrogance to tell them that Volkov is also a correct spelling. My last name is Hines, from the German. It comes from very similar roots as Heinz, and there isn't the transliteration problem, but Hines is correct and Heinz is wrong. Simple as that. Now for people whose name was never transliterated (such as Genghis/Chingiz Khan), then, yes, you have a point. - [[User:Boffo97|Boffo97]] 23:10, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm a Russian speaker, and I can tell you that the Russian "v" (or "в" in cyrillic) is often "de-voiced" -- that is, it sounds like an "f." However, it's still spelled the same in cyrillic. Therefore, although the "f" sound might be closer to the actual Russian pronunciation, for consistency's sake, I would normally spell it with a "v," since most English speakers probably will not know when or how to use the "de-voiced" spelling. However, a lot of Russian names are traditionally romanized with "ff" (such as Rachmaninoff) so it gets a bit confusing. Your best bet is to put down the most widely-used one.

On a similar note, I've put a more-correct definition and pronunciation of the word "русский" (roughly pronounced "rooski") on the section with the slang term for Russians ("Russkie"). (This was before I created my account a minute or so ago.) [[User:Graymornings|Graymornings]] 16:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== 2 Forum Topics ==

<s>Would it be better for us to link to [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=12733
the forum topic] that started 1st or [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=12732 the forum topic] with more replies? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 12:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)</s>
:I just found out the 1 created 1st ''was'' the 1 with more replies. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Creep...wha? ==
{{Audio|Creep.ogg|Listen to the (filtered) quote}}

The transcript has "creep-take", the subtitles have "creep-cake". Sounds to me like Homestar's saying "creepsake" as a pun on keepsake. [[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]] 16:11, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:It's Creepstakes. Like Sweepstakes. -- [[User:208.60.233.69|208.60.233.69]] 17:46, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:Whereas I heard it as Creepcakes. Like cupcakes. Or crabcakes. This could go on forever! [[User:83.67.65.98|83.67.65.98]] 23:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::It's distinctly "Creep-take". There are no audible S sounds anywhere in the vicinity of that word. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::It's Creep-stakes. Remember Homestar's lisp, and listen closer. Think - Creep-take makes no sense. Creep-stakes is a portmaneu. I've watched it multiple times with headphones, etc. It's creep-stakes. I'm putting it back since it's ... you know ... correct. -- [[User:208.60.233.43|208.60.233.43]] 22:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Homestar doesn't have a lisp; he has trouble with his awws. Er, R's. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I've heard creep-take ever since the first viewing. Now after focusing on it, I give creep-take my vote of confidence. I give creep-cake an understandable interpretation. Creep-s[t]ake doesn't cut it. Note: ''Get headphones!'' Props to 208.60.233.43 for mentioning that you listened to it with them, but I think your reasoning is flawed by saying Homestar has a lisp. I also think that your headphones or brain is putting to much emphasis on the white-noise feature created around the hard consonants T and K by the reduced sound quality. Perhaps try to "trick" your brain into thinking that it's "take" and see if you can hear it then. You can practice with the ''I think you're cute / I hate your shoes'' line in [[disconnected]]. I'm able to hear it both ways there, but I can't do it with take/stakes. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:Creep-take is what it sounds most like, but it could easily be creepcake and for portmanteaus it makes more sense. So, how do we list this on [[portmanteaus]]? Or do we? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::No, we don't, because you just said it sounds like creeptake. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:16, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::If we can reach a concesus well enough to put it in this article (unlike the ''I think you're cute / I hate your shoes'' debate you brought up), I think we can safely use the concesus to extend this term to the portmanteaus page. Anyway, more and more it seems (to me) that "creepcake" is what it is. The whole cupcake vs. crabcake question leaves me in doubt, though. I lean toward cupcake, since it's more likely a play on a term of endearment and "crabcake" ain't a term of endearment. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:38, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I hear creeptake. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:19, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Still hearing that myself. I know I've also heard Strong Bad use the phrase "crap-take", but I can't find it. It's part of my point anyway, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:21, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

'''CREEP TAKE doesn't make any SENSE''' as a Homestar line OR a Brothers Chaps line. It is ''nothing''. Creepstakes is Sweepstakes with a "Cr" and it's definitely not "cake" what is wrong with this wiki?? -- [[User:208.60.233.25|208.60.233.25]] 15:25, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:Annnd where does it say that H*R has to make any sense? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:I agree with this guy. It definitely sounds like Creepstakes, i.e. Sweepstakes with a Cr.[[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 05:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::Again, there are no Ss anywhere near the pronounciation of the word. It's take. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:26, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I also vote for Creep-take. I can't hear an S anywhere in the word, especially not at the end. If anything, it might be "creepstake" but I really don't think that's it. ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 04:00, 2 November 2007 (UTC))
::::Like the OP said, though, Creep-take doens't have any logical explanation that anyone has offered. Maybe it's Creepskate, like cheapskate. How do you sign posts?[[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 05:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Why does there NEED to be any logic to it? It's Homestar Runner. (And you can sign posts by typing 4 tildes, or <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:51, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::Thanks for that. Anyway, it just seems like there must be a rationale for the construction Homestar uses. And I just listened to it again and I still here the S's, especially at the end. But alas. [[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 05:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Speakers? Headphones? Did you try using the listening method I described to see why the other side thinks they hear what they hear? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

As of right now,
* Take: BazookaJoe, DorianGray, Heimstern, Some kind of scientist, (Jay), OptimisticFool
* Cake: <s>OptimisticFool</s>, 83.67.65.98, (Jay)
* Stake(s): 208.60.233.XX, 134.174.140.208
* Sake: TTEchidna

Did I miss anybody? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:Sorry I'm late to the party, but I was just re-watching last year's toon, [[Happy Hallow-day]], and noticed that when The Goblin appears, Strong Bad says "What's this crap-take?" Perhaps Homestar's "creep-take" is a reference? — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 20:49, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::I changed my vote (back) to creep-take. As much as I'd like it to be a portmanteau of creep and cupcake, it just isn't. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 21:06, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I listened to the audio at the voice studio where I do occasional voice-overs for anime, I'm not going to say "ZOMG THEY HAS THE BEST SOUND EQUIPMENT EVAR" but it's easy for them to digitall record, isolate, enhance, etc. Homestar is saying "Creep-Stakes", but the "s" sounds are hard to hear because of his special way of talking (Not a lisp, but if you listen to how he speaks, he says "S" differently than what one would consider "normal" along with the fact that the line is delivered quickly. Once and for all, it's definitely "Creepstakes". I'll e-mail TBC and see if they reply on this subject if you guys keep pressing it based on your personal opinion rather than what's on the audio. -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 20:43, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:Feel free, but knock it off with the assumptions of bad faith. We do hear "creep-take"; it's not an attempt to push our opinions off on the article, and the fact that you are convinced we are wrong does not make it so. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 20:47, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::Anony, will you provide us with an enhanced audio file, since you went to the trouble..? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:48, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Haha. Sure. Next time I'm in the studio I'll see if I can get them to load the site ''again'', enhance the audio ''again'', and put the file on a disk for me. That is, if TBC don't reply before the next session I'm hired for. -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 20:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::::That'd be great, thanks. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:57, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'm not assuming bad faith, you are by reverting the correct info. I've given nothing but rock-solid evidence in the form of the quote not making sense, meaning nothing, and having no relation to any work past or present that TBC have done - and you basically have the support of a handful of people who looked at this page. (And not even ALL the people who did.) If someone came along and edited "Hey, Homestar!" to "Play, Romroar!" because that's what they 'heard' another character say, you'd revert it for being obviously wrong, correct? Well, you guys are doing that. -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 20:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Clearly, it is not "obviously wrong" if several people hear it that way and only a few hear it the other way. You comparison is invalid. Furthermore, your argument that this quote makes no sense is hardly convincing: "creepstake" makes no more sense in the context than "creep-take" does. Frankly, anonny, you could afford to consider that possibility ''you'' might be wrong on this. And even if you're not, it's only a wiki about dumb animal characters. If we get one letter wrong, it's not going to hurt anyone. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::::It's obviously wrong because Creep-take is nothing and Creepstakes is a portmaneu of Creep and Sweepstakes. Creepstakes makes more sense than Creep-take, and there's no two ways about that. I'm sorry, but you can't say Creepstakes makes no sense as it's a portmaneu, which TBC famously include all the time. Getting 'two' letters wrong won't hurt anyone - except for the site's correct contents and the script TBC worked on. '''I've e-mailed TBC on this''' and hopefully they'll get back to me. When they do, I wholly expect you guys to debate TBC's own reply! lol! -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 21:14, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

After a rehearing, I am not entirely convinced it is "creep-take": there is a sound that might be an S in there. But I am far from convinced that it actually is "creepstake". {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:06, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:Thank you for rehearing. It makes all the difference, doesn't it? Whew, glad to see this, thank you. (and yeah we may not agree but thanks for questioning 'creep-take') -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 21:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I hear "creepcake", and that also makes the most sense to me, too. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

:Using Cool Edit Pro, I applied two filters: Doppler Shifter (Ambulance), then Normalize. I didn't expect the first filter to do anything helpful, but it seems to be clearer, and Normalize brought the volume back up since the first filter dropped it a bit. I hope this helps. If not, I tried. {{User:TheGirl/sig}} 02:35, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
::{{Audio|Creep.ogg|Listen to the (filtered) quote}}
:::I must conceed that the filtered version sounds like either creepcake or creeptake, rather than creepstakes... sadness : ( sorry other anony [[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 03:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

== Length ==
I saw on the "Teaser Page" (Link leads to specific page, look under "Toon Title" at about the middle.) [[Talk:Jibblies 2 Teaser]] that this toon would "be amazing" if it exceeded 6 minutes. Is that important? Because I didn't see anything under Remarks about the toon being 6:44 and if it that was important to the original poster, would it have any relevance in the Remarks section of the information? Thanks [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 16:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
: I don't suppose its 7:06 if u include homsar's scene or anything, is it? -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 18:06, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe you're referring to me, Stinkoblade? I didn't say it would be "amazing" .. I used the words "nice" and "great". Anyway, running time is listed above the transcript, no sense posting a remark about it below the transcript. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:46, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Sorry, I didn't remember exact words. I can understand that now, but what about like it is on SBEmails where it mentions longest or longest until another came out. That is what I was asking about when I wrote this.
According to the Toons menu, this is the longest Holiday toon to date, can this be important now? [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 13:04, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

== Clickable button ==

In the answering machine scene, the right button on the machine is clickable. I was thinking maybe it would yield an Easter Egg, but no. Can any of the Flash-knowledgeable advise whether that's just because they recycled a Flash file, or is this noteworthy? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I'm no expert, but I'm gonna assume it's because they recycled a Flash file. Nothing happens when you click it except it messes up the scene, effectively ruling out it being an Easter Egg, and recall that TBC have made these kind of mistakes before, primarily with the VCR and the Tandy and Compy's contrast buttons. -{{User:YK/sig}} 18:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Um, I just cleared my cache so I could see the "new" version with the KOT and Poopsmith easter eggs, and now I can't click the button, so I'll assume it's fixed and note it on the page.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 22:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, that more or less confirms that it was just a glitch/flash artifact, at least. -{{User:YK/sig}} 22:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Sad ==

Should it be remarked that Strong Sad's eyes would be behind his fat kid mask, in comparison to his mouth? Or that it's odd that it's a white face, as opposed to a flesh-colored one? Heck, he pretty much just has a different head. Like the KOT when he dressed up as the mayor of Halloween Town. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 18:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:actually, the KOT still had his own head, he just had the mayor's facial features stuck/painted on [[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 23:19, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, not to mention he had a face on the other side of his head. So....is this a good remark then? --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

==Title Card==

The title card is holographic/3D. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:No it's not. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

It looks a little holographic, but it's probably just a random grindhouse-y effect. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 18:40, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

== Jibblied Bubs ==

The way Bubs said "uh, jibblies" reminded me of Homestar saying "uh, crapface" instead of kicking the Cheat in [[replacement]], but that's probably a coincidence. Want to see if anyone saw it too. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 23:05, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I thought of that too. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

== Where We're Going We Don't Need Rides ==

Is it possible the reason they decided to dress the Poopsmith as Doc Brown was because the Back to the Future ride closed this year? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:That sounds a little extreme... {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 00:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I'd say it's about as likely as them using him on The Poopsmith because he's Doc BROWN. --[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 02:11, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== Electric Cacodemon ==

Did anyone notice the electrical noises coming from the jibblied Pom Pom? Or is that just another addition with the fixed glitches? -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 00:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== The TIME Mirror ==

I understand the Big Lebowski idea, but could the mirror also be a reference to when Time named "You" Person of the Year and had a mirror on the cover? I added it just to be safe, even though it might drive the mirror into TTATOT territory.
:See [[Talk:Jibblies 2#About the mirror]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:That comment had already been made, and removed. Personally, I don't think the "You" cover of Time magazine is a strong enough reference to be noteworthy. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== Razor blade apples ==

I think that the razor blade apples could be a reference to the "I Luv Halloween" comic book.
where the characters put razor blades in an apple, give it to a policeman and then frame the old woman who gave it to them on Halloween.
:The razor-blade apple urban myth certainly predates the 2005 comic book. Given the nature of that book (going by what I read over at Wikipedia), I seriously doubt it's something TBC would reference directly anyway. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
It's the [http://www.snopes.com/horrors/mayhem/needles.asp Urban Legend]. 100%. --[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 04:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== WhoDonkis ==

Y'know, I really don't think Homestar is saying, "The Donkis must be stopped!" It sounds a lot more like Poodonkis/Pudonkis. I know, I'm just as confused as you are when it comes to the name, but it's definitely not ''The'' Donkis. This leads me to believe that "Who? Donkis is behind all this?" is not correct either. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:10, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:I heard this myself. It's definitely not just "Donkis". It does, at least, begin with an "oo" sound. Oodonkis. Udonkis? The tag only reads "onkis", so it's hard to say what it is. C'mon, TBC! Show some sketches or a quote of the week that'll clear this up for us! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:17, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::I think I get what you're saying, but the thing's name is on its tag and there doesn't seem to be much space for more letters. (If it IS something other than "Donkis", expect a QoW or something.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:14, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::Upon pulling out my headphones to check another line, I noticed that... you're absolutely right. There's a clear consonant (I think a "P") and "oo" sound both times Homestar says the dino's name. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Let's go with Pudonkis as a good guess of spelling. Fine with everybody? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::::'Swhat I hear, too. I think it's a portmanteau of Donkis and the [[Wikipedia:Pudong|Pudong]] district of Shanghai. (Not really, but hey, crackpot theories are better than none, right?) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::The first time I swear he says "Cute Donkis," but the second time is so not clear. [[User:Kevinchai|Kevinchai]] 21:10, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::I changed my mind, it actually is Pudonkis.
:::::::It has to be Pudonkis. I almost moved the page, but wasn't sure this is "case closed" yet.. when it is, someone else can move [[Donkis]] to [[Pudonkis]]. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:41, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I think, at this point, the only real question is the spelling (it could be "Poodonkis".) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:42, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I think that the name is Donkis, and Homestar has a habit of forgetting names and words, so it comes later as Pudonkis. In 50 e-mails, he forgot the word "deleted". In looking old, he called Homsar "Homestar."[[User:StrongBadFan99998|StrongBadFan99998]] 04:18, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I myself thought his name was Drew Donkis, before I read the transcript. Then it said "Who, Donkis is behind all this?". But now it says "Pudonkis is behind all this?". I am still thinking that his name is Drew Donkis. Why? it's [[Strong Mad|Strong Mad's]]. What does that have to do with anthing? Because in [[the facts|the facts]], Strong Mad named his claymation dinosaur [[Doug the dino|Doug the dino]]. [[Image:cantsayjob.png|20px]] [[User:Don't say jorb 101|Don't say jorb 101]] [[Image:cantsayjob.png|20px]] 7:54, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::What does doug have to do with anything? It's a different name. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::Strong Mad acts like a little kid sometimes. And what do little kid's do but name stuffed animals stuff like "Benny" or "Johnny". Doug the dino and Drew Donkis might be Strong Mad's names for his dinosaurs.
::::::::::[[Image:cantsayjob.png|20px]] [[User:Don't say jorb 101|Don't say jorb 101]] [[Image:cantsayjob.png|20px]] 7:53 PM, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

:This week's [[Quote of the Week]] confirms it. It's spelled Poodonkis.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 22:06, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
::Off topic but wiki related: Do TBC specifically tailor their quotes to clear up ambiguities on the wiki?? [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 01:13, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Sometimes it sure looks that way, though of course this is over a month overdue for clearing up this one. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:14, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

== 1984 ==

Ok. This is big. Follow me here. At the beginning and ending of the cartoon is the pumpkin card with the Roman numeral "23" under it. OK, this is because the deck only has 22 cards...BUT...23 years ago...was 1984. I realize that it was pointed out above that there's a Nickelodeon connection. OK. There's a MASSIVE 1984 connection.

In 1984 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Volkoff#Career Volkoff Teamed up with the Iron Sheik.] 
In 1984 the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Can%27t_Do_That_On_Television#Nickelodeon top rated children's show in America was ''You Can't Do That On Television''] 
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_To_The_Future ''Back to the Future'' was 1985]...ok...that's close...and...time travel...off by a year. Also, in 1984, John De Lorean's cars faced tremendous problems as he was arrested for coke. Remeber, in the movie... 
So So Def was founded by Jermaine Dupree in [http://www.musicianguide.com/biographies/1608004503/Jermaine-Dupri.html 1984.] 
In 1984 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Jackson Jesse Jackson] ran for president, not Sharpton, even though today they are generally said in the same breath. HOWEVER, Sharpton [http://www.answers.com/topic/al-sharpton first received national attention in 1984] for leading public outcry against the relaxed treatment towards [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Goetz Bernard Goetz] 
Richard Scarry wrote five books in 1984; [http://www.amazon.com/Richard-Scarrys-Busy-Learn-Book/dp/0307155404/ref=sr_1_449/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-449 ''Busy Fun and Learn Book''], [http://www.amazon.com/Pig-Will-Wont-Manners-Knee-High/dp/0394865855/ref=sr_1_452/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-452 ''Pig Will and Pig Won't''], [http://www.amazon.com/Meet-Animals-Scarry-Word-Book/dp/0600389731/ref=sr_1_453/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-453 ''Meet the Animals''], [http://www.amazon.com/Holiday-Scarry-Word-Book/dp/060038974X/ref=sr_1_454/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-454 ''On Holiday''], and finally most significantly...[http://www.amazon.com/Lowly-Worms-Bath-Richard-Scarry/dp/0394868382/ref=sr_1_451/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-451 ''Lowly Worm's Bath''] 
I don't know that much about Cacodemons. In 1984 [http://www.amazon.ca/Cacodemon-roi-B-Chartreux/dp/2853760456 ''Cacodemon Roi''] was written, and the [third version of D&D was in late 1983, which apparently uses these things. 
In the 1980's ''The Far Side'' was huge, and the first [http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&EAN=9780836220629 ''Far Side Gallery''] was published. 
Prince's [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_Rain_%28album%29 ''Purple Rain''] was writen in 1984. 
''Dangermouse'' first hit the States on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DangerMouse June 4, 1984.] 
The noony noony typewriter from Sesame Street...the famous [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Hooper death of Mr. Hooper Episode] was Thanksgiving of 1983 (almost '84.) 
The last two are kind of stretches. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_and_Pete ''Pete and Pete''] didn't start until 1993, and the character of Andy was created for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Shame_Theatre No Shame Theater] which started in '86, BUT...ok...the show, Pete and Pete, their Theme Song was written by Polaris...which was founded in ...everybody? [http://www.cannit.com/polaris/polarisbiography.htm Yes, 1984.] 
Then there's Strong Bad. The Xenomorph makes more sense here. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_%28film%29 ''Alien''] was made in '79, but the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_%28video_game%29 video game was made in 1984.] In addition, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridley_Scott Riddley Scott,] who made Alien, made the very famous [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_(television_commercial) 1984 Apple\Macintosh commercial]. 
Beetlejuice however...Beetlejuice was 1989...Ghostbusters was '84, and some sites seem to have that confused ([http://www.cinemetrics.lv/saltdb.php A], [http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-53635650.html%3Frefid%3Dgg_x_02&sa=X&oi=archive&ct=result&cd=1&usg=AFQjCNE-PwwBX5WjqAcTWwce_JcmZSuHcQ B], [http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-53635746.html%3Frefid%3Dgg_x_02&sa=X&oi=archive&ct=result&cd=2&usg=AFQjCNGQgg1-r9FPvhI6NlAEunsNKsNKmg C], [http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.newspaperarchive.com/newspapers1/na0025/2908843/15884356.html&sa=X&oi=archive&ct=result&cd=3&usg=AFQjCNHrE8oDQcvN264Cr5IPDIAngQpQAQ D,] [http://www.20minutos.es/cine/cartelera/interprete/2404/2/ E])...Keaton was in Johnny Dangerously in 1984...and Burton made Frankenweenie in 1984...''Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy's'' ''So Long and Thanks For All The Fish'' was written in 1984, and Ford Prefect was from the vacinity of Betelgeuse...but ok, on this one...it's a stretch. Maybe because he's Strong Sad's [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brother_%28Nineteen_Eighty-Four%29 Big Brother]. Not sure. 
 
But...two more quotes....One from Homestar..."Brother called up Marzipan right before I ran into you." Not Big Brother? Maybe...but...from the book ''1984''..."It was bliss, it was eternity."
--[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 05:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

:I don't know. Most of these seem to be waaay too much of a stretch to be in the main article. Alien Video game? Okay, a Lowly Worm book was published in 1984, but the character was created long before that. Mr. Hooper's death and the Back to the Future movie are NOT 1984 references, and close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades... {{unsigned|220.19.16.13|06:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)}}

::I have to agree — I think the connections are a quite a stretch. Probably the only reason that there's some connection to 1984 in some of them is that TBC tend to reference things from the '80s. I'm going to remove the info from the article for now (the info I removed can be seen {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Jibblies_2&diff=511747&oldid=511741 here}}). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

::: But wait, you forgot a reference. XXIII represents 23, right? Well 23 is also the name of a movie made in '07 about the number 23 being numerologically connected to everything. So much so that Jim Carry goes crazy trying to convince everyone of the meaningless connections, and torches his career. CREEPY, hunh? :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 01:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Some are more firm than others. Prince's biggest work was Purple Rain. That's 1984. That's firm. Dangermouse started here in '84. The wrestler became huge in '84. (You have to understand, the teamup wasn't just a "sporting event," it was a rather noted infamous move, they combined a "Russian" and an "Arab" into one "Evil team," that's why he's remembered. Sharpton literally first hit headlines...Farside's first gallery...YCDTOT, in 1984, it was THE #1 show amoung children, that year, and only that year. So So Def started in '84. I mean the rest are iffy, but that's not enough to raise an eyebrow, given the XXIII, seriously? Plus, the 1983 ones, they were all post Halloween, Thanksgiving and Christmas, so they were also both "XXIII" years ago, so yeah, that is close enough outside of both horseshoes, and handgrenades--[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 11:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC).
:I'm not into elaborate conspiracy theories. This is what Homestar would call a coinkydink. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::(he would?) [[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 23:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::OK, so Homestar would say, "Yeah, yeah, you're pwobabwy wight." But everybody else would say it's a coincidence. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 04:10, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Fhqwhgads ==

I noticed when the painting is about to jibblie Strong Bad, he says his normal "Come on in here!" However, he says the first "come on" like in the song "Everybody to the Limit."

Confirm?
--[[User:144.80.83.157|144.80.83.157]] 18:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:I think he's just trying to emphasize the "come on", and add a little suspense. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 18:50, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
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I think it's a reference.([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 17:29, 5 November 2007 (UTC))
:I'm not convinced. It sounds to me more like simply adding pauses between the words. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
::I think it's a reference. The sudden drop out of the background music seems to give special focus to the words, and the Rocoulm has definitely used other character references - like Marzipan's answering machine and showing up in the midst of Strong Sad's nerdiness. ([[User:Meltingemail|Meltingemail]] 03:23, 9 November 2007 (UTC))
i can listen to opening part of song in my head and mix with roculm's "come on" and yeah that sounds exactly like it. prob still for the suspense though . [[User:Imdaman]]
== Horrible Painting Card Number ==

The Horrible Painting tarot card is numbered "II" which is the Roman numeral 2. This relates to the fact that this is "Jibblies 2". It's a very quick thing that belongs on the Trivia section as people most likely don't notice - and the Brothers Chaps did put that little touch in. '''Please stop removing it just because I'm not registered'''. I say that because it's valid trivia (As valid as what the tarot cards say on the back!) and yet it keeps getting removed when other stuff isn't. It's a true fact, and it's real trivia. So stop it. >:O -- [[User:208.60.233.43|208.60.233.43]] 22:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:Hmmm, but how do you know it's II because of the toon's title? Couldn't it be coincidence? It's really a guess, that's why it shouldn't be on there. Please don't be frustrated by this, it happens to all of us, even sysops. Keep on tranglin'!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::By the way, if you think people aren't taking your edits seriously because you're unregistered, you could [[Special:Userlogin|change that quickly]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:59, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::And the 666 on Marzipan's answering machine could be a coincidence. :D heh. Sorry to get so mad, but... It's crazy how wikis get to the point that people just lie in wait for something to delete. It's like writing "the sky is blue" in an article and someone says "You don't know that for sure" and removes it. -- [[User:208.60.233.25|208.60.233.25]] 15:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Pretty Good, ..? ==
Horrible Painting says, "How's it going, man?" and Homestar responds: "Pretty good, ____________" .. how do we fill in the blank? "Creep-take"? That's what I hear; it sure doesn't sound like the recent change to "creep-stakes".. Neither makes sense, unless someone can explain it to me. Ideas? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:26, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
: Some poster said that Homestar has problems with the letter "S" as justification for "Creepstakes", but that's not true — "R" is the letter Homestar has problems with. I don't recall him ever having a problem with "S". I'm with either -cake or -take. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, maybe creepcake. As a portmanteau of creep and cupcake.. That could be. I say we stick with creepcake, unless we get a QOTW or something to contradict it. It makes the most sense.. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:40, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Hey, y'alls, perhaps you'd like to relocate your responses to [[#Creep...wha?]]. But please read our responses too! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Oops, sorry about that. I didn't read the whole page, and didn't see that convo as I skimmed the TOC. I should have done a Ctrl-F. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::No probalo. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:16, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::Homestar does have a SLIGHT problem with "S", it sometimes comes out as a semi-lisp. -- [[User:208.60.233.25|208.60.233.25]] 15:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Gibbliet ==

Who do so many think the KoT is saying "Giblet giblet giblet" when he's jibblified? There is an unmistakable long "E" sound and no trace of a "T". Yes, he says "giblet" a couple of lines earlier, but that doesn't mean it's what he says when he actually has the jibblies. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:40, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:I listened to them one at a time; each time he is saying "giblet" .. Besides believing my ears, The KoT saying "giblet" is in-character hilarity. Makes perfect sense. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:: So why the long "E"s? He IS saying a long "E" sound each time, and he does NOT the one time he really says "giblet". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:59, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't hear long e's i hear "giblet" {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:01, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Listen with headphones. Keep the volume high-ish (not so high you blow out your ears, of course, but it helps.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:14, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::PS. I mean it helps to use headphones and turn up the volume.
:::::Sorry, Jay, I don't hear it either. Just "giblet" with a little schwa sound stuck between the syllables. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:22, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::ME TOO. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:24, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::How can I be the only person to hear it? No matter when I pause, no matter how closely I listen (in fact, the closer I listen, the better I hear it), no matter how many times, I ALWAYS hear the long "E" in the KoT's "Jibblie jibblie" bit. Every single time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:30, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I also hear "Jibblie"... but I can kinda almost hear "giblet" if I really try for it. The long E is cut a little short, the stop just before the J starts a little earlier than normal... which almost sounds like a "T" if I do the aural equivalent of tilting my head and squinting... but it's still definitely "Jibblie". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:57, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I hear a string of "giblet"s. I remember thinking so when I first saw the toon, and it sounded the same a few minutes ago when I listened again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

== Reference to a web comic? ==

I removed the so-called reference "Pudonkis the Dromiceiomimus stands in the same pose as the Dromiceiomimus from Dinosaur Comics." Now it's back, with the claim that the "author seems to think [it's a reference] (check out the news for 30 Oct)" .. ahem .. The author of a web comic assuming a reference does not make it so. [http://www.qwantz.com/archive/001095.html The Dromiceiomimus is the white one.] Opinions? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:02, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:The additional bit of information is that the particular strip I liked to has a H*R reference (namely [[Fhqwhgads]]). It seems highly likely that there is a little mutual appreciation, combined with a very parclulular pose and and an uncommon dinosaur which just happens to be part of the comic. To me, that seems more than just coincidence nor TTATOT. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::A dinosaur as obscure as a "dromiceiomimus", standing in the exact same pose that the character Dromiceiomimus stands in for every single episode of a very-popular webcomic (one which has even been referenced in a [http://www.fool.com/personal-finance/saving/2007/10/18/dont-save-like-tyrannosaurus-rex.aspx Motley Fool article]), which has previously slipped in references to H*R - I think this one is indisputable. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:06, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, it certainly is disputable! But to me, it seems likely that this is a reference - solely based on SB saying the whole name instead of just "dinosaur". That's definitely a hint.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:23, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, the "parclulular" pose doesn't sell me, but once again I'm out of my element. I don't have an appreciation for web comics whatsoever and certainly wouldn't know which ones are popular. This one in "parclulular" doesn't appear to be entertaining in the least (granted, that's my opinion, but everyone's entitled to my opinion), so how could I know that it's popular? And popularity doesn't necessarily make it a reference, but if it's such a slam dunk, keep it. Whatever. Oh, and I don't mind saying that I don't know what a Motley Fool is, either. And don't waste keystrokes explaining it to me. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::It's a reference. Especially coming on the heels of the recent SBemail "Web Comics", which shows The Bros. know their, well, Web Comics. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 04:15, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:When have you ever even heard of a dromiceiomimus except in Dinosaur Comics? It's not like Pudonkis is a stegosaurus or a T-rex, or even a pachycephalosaurus or a dimetrodon. This is a seriously obscure species of dinosaur. The likelihood of TBC choosing it randomly, AND putting it in the same strange, awkward posture as that of the dromiceiomimus in Dinosaur Comics by sheer coincidence, is extremely low. Especially since it means they'd have to have never seen Dinosaur Comics before, and it's clear from [[web comics]] that they read at least a few web comics. -invisible_map

== Horrible Rocoulm ==

I think there should be better seperation between the terms Rocoulm and Horrible Painting. It's a little confusing in the transcript because the image on the tarot card is just of Rocoulm sans canvas, and when Homestar steps inside the painting, he's not inside Rocoulm himself. The way it's worded now has Homestar steping into the painting and then talking to the painting, from inside it's belly or something. The character's name is Rocoulm and the Horrible Painting is his domicile.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 02:40, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:The horrible painting itself doesn't talk, the subject of the painting does! So, I agree. Separate. It should read: "...the Horrible Painting approaches him from behind.} '''ROCOULM:''' Come on in heeeeeeere.... " etc. Any naysayers? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::Thing is, despite how confidently it's stated on the Horrible Painting's page, we actually don't know the name of the subject of the painting - we just THINK it's Rocoulm because we don't know what else "Rocoulm" could mean. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:19, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Well if we're going to state it so confidently somewhere else, shouldn't it be the same wiki-wide? Well, I don't think it's a big deal to call it Rocoulm, but if we can't, how about at least call it "Demon Holding a Tourch"? That would do just as well for cutting confusion.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 23:41, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
::::We could just call him the Horrible Painting Demon, eh?--[[User:Spirit-O-Saint-Loolie|Spirit-O-Saint-Loolie]]

== Marzipan's smile ==

Anyone else notice that Marzipan stops smiling during Homestar's easter egg for no adequately explored reason? Maybe she's still pissed off about what Homestar said to her during ''her'' easter egg, but that's an unusual disconnect.
:They probably forgot to change it, not after Marzipan's easter egg, but after Bubs'. She also stops smiling in The Poopsmith's and The King of Town's easter eggs, which were added later. {{User:Mee/sig}} 09:39, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Nightmare Before Christmas? ==
Looks like the odd colors inside the painting may be a reference to this black light scene in Nightmare Before Christmas. Anyone?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DnH_OJcpZYQ
*I think it's more a reference to the fact that it's a black light painting. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 02:15, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
*It was probably to match the cartoony style of the Horrible Painting. And I don't get the immediate connection to blacklight. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 18:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

== Holy Water? ==

When Strong Bad says he Needs Holy Water, It is a referance to Castlevania. - Toonypie
*No, it's not. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 02:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Holy Water is an old, old cliche associated with horror films, mainly vampire and werewolf films. Castlevania was only carrying on the tradition. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 18:28, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

== Inverted colors? ==

I don't think Homestar's colors are inverted when he's inside the Horrible Painting. If you copy paste an image of him in the Horrible Painting onto a program such as MS Paint, and invert the colors, Homestar does not go back to his regular colors. [[User:Thrashmeister|Thrashmeister]] 15:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
: You're right. The magenta-and-white stripes on Homestar's shirt would be green-and-black when inverted, and his yellow wig would be blue. Actually, Homestar's shirt is red-and-blue striped and his wig is brown. I removed the fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:12, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

== Person of the Year 2006 Reference ==

I really want to delete the reference to the time Magazine "You" cover, but it's gone back and forth several times already so there's obviously someone who thinks it's a noteworthy reference. (Can I request that it be STUFF'd?) -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 17:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
:Seriously, why can't this be a double reference? I saw the screen cap you posted which convinced me of the Big Lebowski reference, but the nature of the 2006 Person of The Year cover makes it plausible as an additional reference. (We are talking about an internet cartoon show, after all— exactly the sort of content that the Time article was targeting.) It really does work either way. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 18:20, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
::While your point regarding the "targeted content" is what I'd consider the most convincing argument so far for inclusion of PotY 06 as a reference, there just isn't enough in the toon to convince me that there's any relation. Examples of things that would be evidence of such: If it looked at all like the cover in question, if it said "Person of the Year", or "2006" or "You", if the mirror was all crinkly and distorted like the foil ones used for that issue, or if Strong Mad made a comment to the effect that "YOU ARE PERSON OF THE YEAR!" I will admit, however, that it really doesn't matter whether it's there or not - it's just a Wiki about a cartoon. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:12, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:Agree with Father Ted. I don't think the "You" cover fits very well, especially since there's a much more obvious reference choice. I also think it's about time to STUFF this but a lot of people get touchy about that so I don't have the guts to start it.([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 17:27, 5 November 2007 (UTC))
::Nor do I. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:12, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Personally, I think the way the "Time" mirror fact is worded now (no Lebowski, no 2006 cover) seems to be best way. It gets at the base reference. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:00, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
::I disagree, since it's now simply stating the obvious. Given the [[The Big Lebowski|history of references to the movie]], I think it's fair to say that it's a Big Lebowski reference. While Loafing claims the fact was "patently false" as written, probably based on the "exactly the same" wording, I figure it should read "...very similar to a mirror shown in the film..." I know I prompted a STUFF of the "You" cover, but here I'd be tempted to STUFF the Lebowski thing. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

== CGA, not CMYK ==

I would question the link to the CMYK color model on the remark about Homestar in the painting...the colours are reminiscent of [[Wikipedia:Color_Graphics_Adapter|CGA graphics]], a very old graphics standard, while images in the CMYK colour model have no particular affinity for the colours cyan, magenta, yellow, or black. --[[User:Danaris|Danaris]] 16:09, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
:I agree that CMYK doesn't really make sense in that context, but I wouldn't peg it as CGA, either. It appears to be more a "black light" color thing. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

== Meh! ==

As those of you who have been to my talk page (two or three of ya, probably) know, I pride myself in my fluency of a-da Cheeeat. I think I understand his lines while in [[The House of the Brothers Strong]], so I'm gonna go ahead and be '''bold''' and edit them into the commentary. If anyone has any problems with what I added, you know who to blame. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 12:33, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
:No, that's bad, we never put words into the cheat's mouth. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:10, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
::Okay, new question. Do we have a style manual here? Because if we don't, we should add one. See [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Manual_of_style Wookieepedia] for a good example of another wiki's special rules.
::My point here is simply that we should add a rule that the Cheat's words are never added to his speech, unless we come to a decision that it's ''really, really'' clear, like that time in [[coloring]] when he said "Okay." --[[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 13:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
:::[[HRWiki:Manual of Style|Yes, we have a manual of style]]. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 13:52, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
::::But guys, The Cheat got the Jibblies. We should put down on the transcript that The Cheat starts making Jibblie-ish noises instead of saying he continues screaming. It really isn't putting words in his mouth. {{User:Neox/sig}} 16:47, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::I wouldn't object to a mention of "Jibblie-ish" noises, but I don't think the rest of it is necessary.[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 21:56, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

== Killer Instinct music? ==

All right, being as though I'm a staff member of SNESMusic.org, I know a bit more about SNES music than is probably healthy.

A recent fun fact states that the music in the toon was "based on" music from Killer Instinct, but going by the existing SPC soundtrack, I'm gonna have to conclude one of two things... One, the SPC set is missing a song, or two, the fact is... well, wrong.

Either way, could whoever added that fact be a bit more specific? -{{User:YK/sig}} 08:54, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
:See [[Image:HR vs KI.ogg]] for a comparison. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:36, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

== Is That Come On In Here A Come On In Here? ==

I noticed that in the easter egg transcript, the "come on in here" is in the form of question . . . is it really? It didn't sound like the Horrible Painting was asking a question. -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]] 23:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, but he sounds somewhat uncertain. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::No he doesn't. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes he does, listen real closely. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I did, and he doesn't, and going back and forth with "yes he did", "no he didn't" isn't going to help anyone, so unless you have something new to say, let's wait for some more opinions. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:33, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:It's very very clear that his inflexion goes up towards the end of the sentence. Very very clear evidence of a question. [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]]
::Yeah, sounds like a question to me, too. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:44, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Why would it be a question? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:54, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Because Homsar is well-known in the Homestar Runner universe for being an odd duck, even to the point where the horrible painting guy might be aware of it. It seems probable that he was nervous about even talking to Homsar, so in crept some doubt that led him to phrasing his "come on in here" in a way that it sounded like a question. And it turns out he was right to be nervous because Homsar ended up giving him the jibblies. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::'Xactly. I agrees with the Fool. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Not that I'm in disagreement or anything, if this is the case, I'm wondering why the Horrible Painting decided to let The Goblin in . . . but I'm pretty sure I'm thinking too hard about this. -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]] 23:01, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::I, too, think it sounds like a question. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 17:38, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== STUFF of the year ===
{{stufffact|The [[Wikipedia: Person of the Year|Time Magazine Person of the Year]] mirror that Strong Mad uses at the beginning of the cartoon refers to Time Magazine's "Person of the Year" award. '''It more specifically refers to the 2006 issue of the award, in which they chose to honor "You."'''}}
The vote was only on the part in '''bold'''.

{{stuffverdict|01:56, 6 November 2007 (UTC)|02:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)|unanimously declined|10|0|Jibblies 2}}

== Costume name glitches ==

Has anybody noticed that when you click and hold somebody at the end, then drag your mouse to Homsar, the names overlap? Seems like something that should be put in the glitches section. [[User:Gollum999|Gollum999]] 05:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:That's not really a notable glitch... It's something very typical of Flash, I think. The Main Pages do that all the time. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:57, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
::Well yeah, but its listed as a glitch in the main page section, right? [[User:Gollum999|Gollum999]] 16:11, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

==The LOADING==
Is this a possible reference to the Highlander II: The Quickening? They're making fun of sequel conventions, and Highlander II is a famously bad sequel. That's the first thing that sprung to mind when I saw the loading screen. --[[User:129.237.88.160|129.237.88.160]] 08:22, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think so. All the tarot cards in the toon begin with "The", and the one on the loading screen is no exception. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:24, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

== Jibblies Page Unlinked? ==

This seems so obvious that I figure I'm simply overlooking it, but shouldn't [[Jibblies]] be linked somewhere in this article? -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

==Jibble Jibblies==
Looks like Homsar ''reflected'' the jibblies causing the [[Horrible Painting]] to get the jibblies. {{User:HAJ/sig}} 22:35, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
:To me, it appears that the Horrible Painting's jibblies had no effect, and Homsar responded with his ''own'' jibblies rays from his hat. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 23:34, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
::I agree with the Reverend. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:35, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I agree with HAJ, But we never know like Sweet Cuppin' Cakes
::::This is all speculation. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:55, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

== Ushanka ==

Under Explanations:
*A [[Wikipedia:Ushanka|ushanka]] ... is a round fur hat, usually black, traditionally worn by Russian men. ...
Er... We're adding an explanation "fun fact" to explain something that only exists on the page because ''we'' used an obscure word in the transcript? Isn't that a little convoluted and self-indulgent? I'm going to take this out and simplify the transcript. If others feel strongly that this article needs to educate people about what a ushanka is, then put it in Remarks where it belongs. I generally expect Explanations to explain things that appeared the toon itself. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:58, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

:Immediately reverted as "important". But why don't we explain that the thing around Sarducci Bad's neck is called a [[Wikipedia:Stole|stole]], and it's used in Roman Catholic vestments with various symbolic colors? (Oops! He's wearing red in the wrong season!) Or that the thing around Marziprince's neck is called a [http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/jabots jabot], and it was a common style in the 18th century?

:Because their only relevance to the toon is that they're duplicating the costumes of external characters. Once I know who each costume is supposed to be, details about why the originals dressed that way usually don't enhance my enjoyment of the toon. Especially when it boils down to something as mundane as, "Strong Mad wears a stereotypically Russian hat," when Nikolai Volkoff was obviously a stereotypical Russian character.

:On top of that, it makes the article hard to read when there's a word nobody knows listed in the Transcript with the explanation pages lower, and then a word nobody knows explained in the Fun Facts with no mention of it in the toon. Like I said, if it's really "important", put it in one spot: Remarks. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:11, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

::I'm inclined to agree with TheNicestGuy. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I can see both sides of this argument, but I agree with TheNicestGuy for leaving it colloquial in the transcript, and then putting\leaving the word and link to ushanka in Explanations. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 05:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Backup is nice, but someone will have to actually do the honors if we're satisfied. I loathe revert wars, so I make it a policy never to make the same edit twice. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

:The fact itself is kinda dubious, methinks, after looking at the wiki article. Ushanka doesn't translate to hat, shapka does, which is what it's called in English-speaking world (indeed, that's the only thing I've heard it called besides generic "Russian hat" and the like). I'd support the fact, (I do like the idea of having a more general term in the transcript), but I think it might need to be reworked. On a similar note, although the had SM wears is instantly recognizable as a stereotypical russian hat, it doesn't seem to have earflaps, which are apparently necessary to truly be a ushanka. Is this important? -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 16:35, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

::Why, yes. Yes it is. Take a look at [http://www.ganges.com/Dynamite_Kid_vs_Nikolai_Volkoff_Wrestling_Classic_1985_v1157022/ this video], which has a few close-ups of Volkoff in his hat. It's not a ushanka! It's sort of a... furry pillbox hat, no flaps. Which is exactly what Strong Mad wears too. Faithful piece of costume, nothing more. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:36, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

== Giblets ==

Should we explain what giblets are? I doubt that very many people know what they are. Or is that not neccesary? [[User:TreeWithAChainsaw|TreeWithAChainsaw]] 22:28, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:Seeing as we explain giblet gravy in [[more armies#Explanations|more armies]], I don't think it's too farfetched to add a fact explaining giblets. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:44, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== Kind of adding ==

Kind of an addition to the answering machine thing, about the anti-Christ and 666, I was thinking we may want to add that to the article about it, so I'm kind of new here, and I need to know just where I would put it under, IF we want to add it that is. ([[User:Dynamite|Dynamite]] 03:17, 26 February 2008 (UTC))

Talk:Jibblies 2

2008-02-26T03:17:34Z

Dynamite: /* Kind of adding */

== 2 things ==
1. this is the first/ maybe 2nd time strong bad closes is eyes
2. strong bad breaks the 4th wall by refrencing the title of the toon
[[User:Foogs|Foogs.]] 22:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

::Not to mention by referring to Coach Z, the Poopsmith and the KOT as "characters." -invisible_map

==Stick Costume==
Does anyone know what [[The Stick]] was supposed to be dressed as? For some random reason, I'm thinking Donald Duck. -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 00:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:nvm, just looked at the costume page. It's so fitting now! -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 00:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::The Stick is Lowly Worm. [[User:207.62.231.2|207.62.231.2]] 00:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I think that you think The Stick is Donald is because of Donald's Robin Hood get-up. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
::::Robin Hood was played by Daffy. Keep your ducks straight! --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 03:58, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::But why do Strong Bad and Homestar insult The Stick? Does it have something to do with the Lowly Worm get up?[[User:128.104.61.243|128.104.61.243]] 19:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::I too would like to know why they both insult The Stick - I don't think there's a history of this? --[[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 16:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Not to reopen old discussions, but does anyone know the answer to this? I don't, so I think it's worth an explaination on the page [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 01:21, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== No Interactivity ==

Does anyone else believe this toon broke a tradition for h*r halloween specials? In 2001, they had that trick-or-treat game, in 2003, they had a brief scene making fun of the trick-or-treat game, and in 2005, they had a potion game. This would be the 1st h*r Halloween special out of the ones released in an odd-numbered year not to include interactivity other than the usual Easter Eggs. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:33, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:...Ummm, yeah. Odd numbered years. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 03:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:...Ummm, yeah. It's 2007.

I agree with Bad Bad Guy; where would I add it, though? the trivia section or the remarks section?

Ya and in every other ween toon also has a party of some sort, this one is actually like a cheesey horror movie!
:If I remember correctly, they had no Halloween parties in 2001, '05, or '06 either. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:25, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

== About the mirror ==

There have been mirrors like that before the release of the Man of the Year 2006 issue (I caught a glimpse of one in a movie when flipping channels). I think saying it is a reference to that exact issue is a bit of a stretch. [[User:207.119.175.50|207.119.175.50]] 00:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the mirror is a reference to an actual mirror of that type, similar to the one featured in The Big Lebowski. (The Dude peers into this mirror in The Big Lebowski's office.) [http://www.popamericana.com/!/Man%20of%20the%20Year.jpg Link] The "You" cover is too big of a stretch, especially when one of Pom-Pom's previous costumes was Walter Sobchak. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 01:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:Big Lebowski - probably. Time magazine - no. It looks EXACTLY like the Big Lebowski mirror and NOTHING like the Time magazine cover. I remember you used to be able to buy those mirrors, a looong time ago. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 18:10, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Was Nikolai Volkoff ever on the cover of Time? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:09, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::No, but neither was The Dude. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:21, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Regardless of Lebowski or MOTY '06, it still refers to Time's Man of the Year practice, doesn't it? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:54, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:That's true, but as written right now, that's already linked to. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:21, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::The reference got edited all up with the "You" business, and then the whole thing got deleted. The Big Lebowski reference is so obvious (see my link above) that I had to put it back in. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Kids Choice Awards ==

When Marzipan says, "I don't know" and then the green slime oozes on her, that was a reference to the Nick Kids Choice Awards.-[[User:Ava|Ava]] 00:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, from what I've heard, the Nickolodeon slime tradition began on YCDTOTV. -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 01:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Regardless of where Nickelodeon got that tradition, that's a *direct* reference to TCDTOTV, where saying "I don't know" would get you slimed. *remembers watching that show as a kid* -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Yep, and as clicking on Ross calls on the scene, I'd say it's an homage to YCDTOTV. It isn't even the first reference to that show on this site. Surprised they didn't throw in a "water" gag too. [[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 04:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::::''{PlasticDiverGuy gets drenched with water}'' (Sorry, I couldn't resist. =P) -{{User:YK/sig}} 06:47, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Shower scene? ==

The following fact was STUFFed — let's see it can be resolved here first:
<blockquote>
Coach Z's shower scene is a reference to the famous shower scene in the horror movie Psycho.
</blockquote>
There was one vote and an argument against, from [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]: "I've seen the original Psycho and it's nothing alike it except they're in a shower." So, what do people think. Is this a reference or not, and why? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:17, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I think that the connection to Psycho is tenuous at best. Coach Z's scene did not feature several closeups of him being attacked, nor was there the trademark high pitched staccato strings. Those would be the strongest connections to the film. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::I think that Coach Z's line before getting attacked is a reference, not the attack itself. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 01:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Wbwolf, I think you're right — if it was a reference to ''Psycho'', they really would have used the trademark music. More likely, it's just a nod to the typical "shower scene" in horror movies (which originated with ''Psycho'', I think). So, mayhaps the fact could be modified to refer to the stereotypical scene, rather than this specific movie. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I'd say this is more generally a reference to the fact that horror film starlettes are so often caught by the bad guy while in the shower. This is perhaps a subclause of the convention that the token hot chick will always die during or immediately following her topless scene. That being said, I don't think this warrants an explanatory note. [[User:Telamon|-Telamon]] 01:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Hey. I'm the guy who originally posted this fact. As soon as Coach Z said that "a pretty thing like him" would be perfectly safe in the shower, I knew that it was a reference to those horror movies in which the heroine dies. Psycho was just the first one to come to mind because it was so well known. -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 02:08, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

==Classic Nick==

There's a classic Nickelodeon theme going.

The Stick: Lowly Worm from Busy World of Richard Scarry: early Nick Jr.

Strong Bad: Beetlejuice, from a cartoon on Nick

Homestar: Artie, from Pete & Pete which was on Nick in the 80s and 90s

Homsar: the Typewriter guy from Sesame Street, which was once on Nick

You Can't Do That On Television- on Nick in the 80s

[[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 01:32, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
: Beetlejuice was not a cartoon that was exclusive to Nickelodeon, but ran on other outlets (including Cartoon Network) throughout the 1990s. I know Sesame Street is on Noggin, Nick/CTW's spin-off, but I don't think it was on Nick proper. Still, three references (two exclusive, since Richard Scarry was also a series of books) is pretty strong. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::What about The Cheat? Was Danger Mouse on Nick too? -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 01:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, it was, as far as I can remember... back in the late '80s, early '90s, I believe. -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

It was on TCC before Nick, however I like the fact that this is my most reconised costume episode so far. [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 19:31, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::Beetlejuice was on Nick in syndication in the 90s. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 20:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

==Marzipan's answering machine==
Have any of you noticed that the number of messages on Marzipan's answering machine is [[Wikipedia:Number of the Beast|666]]? Does that mean the jibblies would have affected everybody
until the're dead?-[[User:Don't say jorb 101|Don't say jorb 101]]
*I am under the impression it's just foreshadowing who the caller is... the number has demonic connotations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast and more specifically http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast#Culture_and_psychology --[[User:70.106.82.44|70.106.82.44]] 03:05, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:It just means that the rocoulm or whatever has taken over the answering machine. Presumably it picking up the call possessed it -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 18:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== MArzipan's guitar ==

Hey did anyone else notice that marzipan's guitar only has five strings?

:Didn't notice it. Her guitar looks like an Edwards PR-100 made by ESP though. (Search "EDWARDS by ESP PR-100" on Google and click the eBay link to see pictures)

== Hammakers Slammakers? ==

I believe that the store when StrongBad tried to find a Xenomorph costume is supposed to be combination of Hammacher Schlemmer, a catalog store for high-end, luxery gifts (like The Sharper Image) and ''Hammer's Slammers'', a series of military science fiction novels and short stories by David Drake.
:Only the first one, as the second one doesn't fit at all. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

== "Human Grate on my nerves" ==

*It sounds like "Human Gettin' on my nerves" to me. Which doesn't make any sense, but that's par for the course, really. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 03:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
**I hear grate. As in grating nerves. --[[User:70.106.82.44|70.106.82.44]] 14:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
***Geez, 0 for two. :( [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 23:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Bad smiling ==

*Is he smiling? I think the curve of the Beetlejuice teeth make it ''look'' as though he's smiling, but if you look closer it's his usual face. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 03:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
: Yes. The whole toon. Follow the contours of his mouth. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Well blow me down, so he is. :/ [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 04:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, he goes back to his normal face right before he gets jibbilied. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:When you wear fake teeth, you wanna show 'em off! Ever see a little kid wearing them on Halloween? All wide grins and growls so you can see the teeth. lol. -- [[User:208.60.233.161|208.60.233.161]] 20:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== misc ==

A) Does anyone notice anything...unusual...about the football trophy?
B) I don't hear Strong Sad saying "Xenomorph." I hear "Beatlemorph" or "Beatleborgs" or something, as if he's trying to say "Beatlejuice" three times.
--[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 04:03, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
: a) What football trophy? The [[golbol]] looks normal to me. b) Strong Sad is clearly saying "Xenomorph"; he's correcting Coach Z's generic use of the word "alien" (in the [[Jibblies 2 Teaser]], a silhouette of a Xenomorph costume is seen in place of Strong Bad.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:22, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::I think he means the football trophy in Strong Mad's room, but I didn't notice anything remarkable about it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Homsar smiling? ==

I don't think I've ever witnessed this happen before. Did he ever have such a wide smile in any other cartoon?--[[User:75.62.6.158|75.62.6.158]] 04:42, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I believe the reason his smile is so wide in this cartoon is to portray his chin as the top of the paper in the typewriter as best as possible without cutting off the top of his head. - [[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 06:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Volkov ==

Someone wrote under "goofs" that "Volkoff" is a misspelling of "Volkov." This is incorrect. Russian uses the Cyrillic alphabet, and there are a number of different ways of transliterating it into ours. I've seen final "v"s and final "ff"s used interchangeably all over the place -- for instance, "Prokofiev" vs. "Prokofieff," "Rachmaninov" vs. "Rachmaninoff." The "v" is the preferred transliteration in academic/linguistic contexts, but in everday use, they're both pretty common. In fact, the Wikipedia article calls him "Volkoff." -invisible_map

: Oops, I watched the toon again, and TBC spell it "Volkov," so I must have misread the "goofs" section. Either way, though, they're both acceptable spellings.

:Transliteration from the Russian alphabet really isn't the issue though. If Strong Mad is meant to be the former WWE wrestler Nikolai Volkoff, the Brothers Chaps made a spelling mistake, since the name has always been Volkoff in English. - [[User:Boffo97|Boffo97]] 13:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

:: Traditional spellings of names from languages with different writing systems are sometimes changed to more accurately reflect the pronunciation. For instance, "Mao Tse-Tung" is usually spelled "Mao Zedong" now. Sometimes the old spelling is so well-known that change is slow to catch on -- for instance, people almost always write "Lao-Tzu" for the Daoist/Taoist philosopher, even though "Laozi" is the preferred spelling among people who study this stuff. Same thing with "Prokofiev" (which has totally displaced "Prokofieff" vs. "Rachmaninov" (which is still less common than "Rachmaninoff"). Here's my point: even if "Volkoff" is the traditional and more common spelling, "Volkov" is not *wrong*. In fact, it's probably closer to the way it actually sounds in Russian (though I'd want to ask a Russian-speaker to verify that). And "Nikolai Volkov" gets 11,000 hits on Google.

:::Yes, I know what transliteration is. The point is, despite its appearance, the name "Nikolai Volkoff", as relates to the former pro wrestler, was never in the Russian alphabet. It was devised in English. It was flashed on screen before every one of his matches. Therefore, *for this case*, "Nikolai Volkoff" is correct, and "Nikolai Volkov" is wrong. If we were dealing with a name devised in a non English alphabet we were transliterating, then what you were saying would be correct. We are not. - [[User:Boffo97|Boffo97]] 19:17, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Re "I know what transliteration is": I'm sorry if you thought I was being patronizing. I wasn't trying to explain what transliteration was -- I was talking about how it changes historically, which you didn't seem to be taking into account. But I didn't realize that "Nikolai Volkoff" wasn't his real name until now. Since he totally made it up, you're right. Never mind!

:::::Even if a name changes historically, if we're dealing with people who have made their own transition from another alphabet to ours, they are the ones who are picking how the transliteration occurs. Suppose Nikolai Volkoff was his real name. Or even that his family had a few generations in this alphabet using the Volkoff spelling. It'd be the height of arrogance to tell them that Volkov is also a correct spelling. My last name is Hines, from the German. It comes from very similar roots as Heinz, and there isn't the transliteration problem, but Hines is correct and Heinz is wrong. Simple as that. Now for people whose name was never transliterated (such as Genghis/Chingiz Khan), then, yes, you have a point. - [[User:Boffo97|Boffo97]] 23:10, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm a Russian speaker, and I can tell you that the Russian "v" (or "в" in cyrillic) is often "de-voiced" -- that is, it sounds like an "f." However, it's still spelled the same in cyrillic. Therefore, although the "f" sound might be closer to the actual Russian pronunciation, for consistency's sake, I would normally spell it with a "v," since most English speakers probably will not know when or how to use the "de-voiced" spelling. However, a lot of Russian names are traditionally romanized with "ff" (such as Rachmaninoff) so it gets a bit confusing. Your best bet is to put down the most widely-used one.

On a similar note, I've put a more-correct definition and pronunciation of the word "русский" (roughly pronounced "rooski") on the section with the slang term for Russians ("Russkie"). (This was before I created my account a minute or so ago.) [[User:Graymornings|Graymornings]] 16:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== 2 Forum Topics ==

<s>Would it be better for us to link to [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=12733
the forum topic] that started 1st or [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=12732 the forum topic] with more replies? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 12:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)</s>
:I just found out the 1 created 1st ''was'' the 1 with more replies. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Creep...wha? ==
{{Audio|Creep.ogg|Listen to the (filtered) quote}}

The transcript has "creep-take", the subtitles have "creep-cake". Sounds to me like Homestar's saying "creepsake" as a pun on keepsake. [[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]] 16:11, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:It's Creepstakes. Like Sweepstakes. -- [[User:208.60.233.69|208.60.233.69]] 17:46, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:Whereas I heard it as Creepcakes. Like cupcakes. Or crabcakes. This could go on forever! [[User:83.67.65.98|83.67.65.98]] 23:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::It's distinctly "Creep-take". There are no audible S sounds anywhere in the vicinity of that word. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::It's Creep-stakes. Remember Homestar's lisp, and listen closer. Think - Creep-take makes no sense. Creep-stakes is a portmaneu. I've watched it multiple times with headphones, etc. It's creep-stakes. I'm putting it back since it's ... you know ... correct. -- [[User:208.60.233.43|208.60.233.43]] 22:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Homestar doesn't have a lisp; he has trouble with his awws. Er, R's. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I've heard creep-take ever since the first viewing. Now after focusing on it, I give creep-take my vote of confidence. I give creep-cake an understandable interpretation. Creep-s[t]ake doesn't cut it. Note: ''Get headphones!'' Props to 208.60.233.43 for mentioning that you listened to it with them, but I think your reasoning is flawed by saying Homestar has a lisp. I also think that your headphones or brain is putting to much emphasis on the white-noise feature created around the hard consonants T and K by the reduced sound quality. Perhaps try to "trick" your brain into thinking that it's "take" and see if you can hear it then. You can practice with the ''I think you're cute / I hate your shoes'' line in [[disconnected]]. I'm able to hear it both ways there, but I can't do it with take/stakes. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:Creep-take is what it sounds most like, but it could easily be creepcake and for portmanteaus it makes more sense. So, how do we list this on [[portmanteaus]]? Or do we? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::No, we don't, because you just said it sounds like creeptake. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:16, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::If we can reach a concesus well enough to put it in this article (unlike the ''I think you're cute / I hate your shoes'' debate you brought up), I think we can safely use the concesus to extend this term to the portmanteaus page. Anyway, more and more it seems (to me) that "creepcake" is what it is. The whole cupcake vs. crabcake question leaves me in doubt, though. I lean toward cupcake, since it's more likely a play on a term of endearment and "crabcake" ain't a term of endearment. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:38, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I hear creeptake. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:19, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Still hearing that myself. I know I've also heard Strong Bad use the phrase "crap-take", but I can't find it. It's part of my point anyway, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:21, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

'''CREEP TAKE doesn't make any SENSE''' as a Homestar line OR a Brothers Chaps line. It is ''nothing''. Creepstakes is Sweepstakes with a "Cr" and it's definitely not "cake" what is wrong with this wiki?? -- [[User:208.60.233.25|208.60.233.25]] 15:25, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:Annnd where does it say that H*R has to make any sense? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:I agree with this guy. It definitely sounds like Creepstakes, i.e. Sweepstakes with a Cr.[[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 05:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::Again, there are no Ss anywhere near the pronounciation of the word. It's take. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:26, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I also vote for Creep-take. I can't hear an S anywhere in the word, especially not at the end. If anything, it might be "creepstake" but I really don't think that's it. ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 04:00, 2 November 2007 (UTC))
::::Like the OP said, though, Creep-take doens't have any logical explanation that anyone has offered. Maybe it's Creepskate, like cheapskate. How do you sign posts?[[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 05:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Why does there NEED to be any logic to it? It's Homestar Runner. (And you can sign posts by typing 4 tildes, or <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:51, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::Thanks for that. Anyway, it just seems like there must be a rationale for the construction Homestar uses. And I just listened to it again and I still here the S's, especially at the end. But alas. [[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 05:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Speakers? Headphones? Did you try using the listening method I described to see why the other side thinks they hear what they hear? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

As of right now,
* Take: BazookaJoe, DorianGray, Heimstern, Some kind of scientist, (Jay), OptimisticFool
* Cake: <s>OptimisticFool</s>, 83.67.65.98, (Jay)
* Stake(s): 208.60.233.XX, 134.174.140.208
* Sake: TTEchidna

Did I miss anybody? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:Sorry I'm late to the party, but I was just re-watching last year's toon, [[Happy Hallow-day]], and noticed that when The Goblin appears, Strong Bad says "What's this crap-take?" Perhaps Homestar's "creep-take" is a reference? — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 20:49, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::I changed my vote (back) to creep-take. As much as I'd like it to be a portmanteau of creep and cupcake, it just isn't. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 21:06, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I listened to the audio at the voice studio where I do occasional voice-overs for anime, I'm not going to say "ZOMG THEY HAS THE BEST SOUND EQUIPMENT EVAR" but it's easy for them to digitall record, isolate, enhance, etc. Homestar is saying "Creep-Stakes", but the "s" sounds are hard to hear because of his special way of talking (Not a lisp, but if you listen to how he speaks, he says "S" differently than what one would consider "normal" along with the fact that the line is delivered quickly. Once and for all, it's definitely "Creepstakes". I'll e-mail TBC and see if they reply on this subject if you guys keep pressing it based on your personal opinion rather than what's on the audio. -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 20:43, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:Feel free, but knock it off with the assumptions of bad faith. We do hear "creep-take"; it's not an attempt to push our opinions off on the article, and the fact that you are convinced we are wrong does not make it so. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 20:47, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::Anony, will you provide us with an enhanced audio file, since you went to the trouble..? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:48, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Haha. Sure. Next time I'm in the studio I'll see if I can get them to load the site ''again'', enhance the audio ''again'', and put the file on a disk for me. That is, if TBC don't reply before the next session I'm hired for. -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 20:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::::That'd be great, thanks. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:57, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'm not assuming bad faith, you are by reverting the correct info. I've given nothing but rock-solid evidence in the form of the quote not making sense, meaning nothing, and having no relation to any work past or present that TBC have done - and you basically have the support of a handful of people who looked at this page. (And not even ALL the people who did.) If someone came along and edited "Hey, Homestar!" to "Play, Romroar!" because that's what they 'heard' another character say, you'd revert it for being obviously wrong, correct? Well, you guys are doing that. -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 20:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Clearly, it is not "obviously wrong" if several people hear it that way and only a few hear it the other way. You comparison is invalid. Furthermore, your argument that this quote makes no sense is hardly convincing: "creepstake" makes no more sense in the context than "creep-take" does. Frankly, anonny, you could afford to consider that possibility ''you'' might be wrong on this. And even if you're not, it's only a wiki about dumb animal characters. If we get one letter wrong, it's not going to hurt anyone. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::::It's obviously wrong because Creep-take is nothing and Creepstakes is a portmaneu of Creep and Sweepstakes. Creepstakes makes more sense than Creep-take, and there's no two ways about that. I'm sorry, but you can't say Creepstakes makes no sense as it's a portmaneu, which TBC famously include all the time. Getting 'two' letters wrong won't hurt anyone - except for the site's correct contents and the script TBC worked on. '''I've e-mailed TBC on this''' and hopefully they'll get back to me. When they do, I wholly expect you guys to debate TBC's own reply! lol! -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 21:14, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

After a rehearing, I am not entirely convinced it is "creep-take": there is a sound that might be an S in there. But I am far from convinced that it actually is "creepstake". {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:06, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:Thank you for rehearing. It makes all the difference, doesn't it? Whew, glad to see this, thank you. (and yeah we may not agree but thanks for questioning 'creep-take') -- [[User:208.60.233.4|208.60.233.4]] 21:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I hear "creepcake", and that also makes the most sense to me, too. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

:Using Cool Edit Pro, I applied two filters: Doppler Shifter (Ambulance), then Normalize. I didn't expect the first filter to do anything helpful, but it seems to be clearer, and Normalize brought the volume back up since the first filter dropped it a bit. I hope this helps. If not, I tried. {{User:TheGirl/sig}} 02:35, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
::{{Audio|Creep.ogg|Listen to the (filtered) quote}}
:::I must conceed that the filtered version sounds like either creepcake or creeptake, rather than creepstakes... sadness : ( sorry other anony [[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 03:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

== Length ==
I saw on the "Teaser Page" (Link leads to specific page, look under "Toon Title" at about the middle.) [[Talk:Jibblies 2 Teaser]] that this toon would "be amazing" if it exceeded 6 minutes. Is that important? Because I didn't see anything under Remarks about the toon being 6:44 and if it that was important to the original poster, would it have any relevance in the Remarks section of the information? Thanks [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 16:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
: I don't suppose its 7:06 if u include homsar's scene or anything, is it? -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 18:06, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe you're referring to me, Stinkoblade? I didn't say it would be "amazing" .. I used the words "nice" and "great". Anyway, running time is listed above the transcript, no sense posting a remark about it below the transcript. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:46, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Sorry, I didn't remember exact words. I can understand that now, but what about like it is on SBEmails where it mentions longest or longest until another came out. That is what I was asking about when I wrote this.
According to the Toons menu, this is the longest Holiday toon to date, can this be important now? [[User:Stinkoblade|Stinkoblade]] 13:04, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

== Clickable button ==

In the answering machine scene, the right button on the machine is clickable. I was thinking maybe it would yield an Easter Egg, but no. Can any of the Flash-knowledgeable advise whether that's just because they recycled a Flash file, or is this noteworthy? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I'm no expert, but I'm gonna assume it's because they recycled a Flash file. Nothing happens when you click it except it messes up the scene, effectively ruling out it being an Easter Egg, and recall that TBC have made these kind of mistakes before, primarily with the VCR and the Tandy and Compy's contrast buttons. -{{User:YK/sig}} 18:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Um, I just cleared my cache so I could see the "new" version with the KOT and Poopsmith easter eggs, and now I can't click the button, so I'll assume it's fixed and note it on the page.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 22:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, that more or less confirms that it was just a glitch/flash artifact, at least. -{{User:YK/sig}} 22:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Sad ==

Should it be remarked that Strong Sad's eyes would be behind his fat kid mask, in comparison to his mouth? Or that it's odd that it's a white face, as opposed to a flesh-colored one? Heck, he pretty much just has a different head. Like the KOT when he dressed up as the mayor of Halloween Town. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 18:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:actually, the KOT still had his own head, he just had the mayor's facial features stuck/painted on [[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 23:19, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, not to mention he had a face on the other side of his head. So....is this a good remark then? --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

==Title Card==

The title card is holographic/3D. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 19:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:No it's not. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

It looks a little holographic, but it's probably just a random grindhouse-y effect. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 18:40, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

== Jibblied Bubs ==

The way Bubs said "uh, jibblies" reminded me of Homestar saying "uh, crapface" instead of kicking the Cheat in [[replacement]], but that's probably a coincidence. Want to see if anyone saw it too. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 23:05, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:I thought of that too. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

== Where We're Going We Don't Need Rides ==

Is it possible the reason they decided to dress the Poopsmith as Doc Brown was because the Back to the Future ride closed this year? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:That sounds a little extreme... {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 00:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I'd say it's about as likely as them using him on The Poopsmith because he's Doc BROWN. --[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 02:11, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== Electric Cacodemon ==

Did anyone notice the electrical noises coming from the jibblied Pom Pom? Or is that just another addition with the fixed glitches? -[[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 00:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== The TIME Mirror ==

I understand the Big Lebowski idea, but could the mirror also be a reference to when Time named "You" Person of the Year and had a mirror on the cover? I added it just to be safe, even though it might drive the mirror into TTATOT territory.
:See [[Talk:Jibblies 2#About the mirror]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:That comment had already been made, and removed. Personally, I don't think the "You" cover of Time magazine is a strong enough reference to be noteworthy. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== Razor blade apples ==

I think that the razor blade apples could be a reference to the "I Luv Halloween" comic book.
where the characters put razor blades in an apple, give it to a policeman and then frame the old woman who gave it to them on Halloween.
:The razor-blade apple urban myth certainly predates the 2005 comic book. Given the nature of that book (going by what I read over at Wikipedia), I seriously doubt it's something TBC would reference directly anyway. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
It's the [http://www.snopes.com/horrors/mayhem/needles.asp Urban Legend]. 100%. --[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 04:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== WhoDonkis ==

Y'know, I really don't think Homestar is saying, "The Donkis must be stopped!" It sounds a lot more like Poodonkis/Pudonkis. I know, I'm just as confused as you are when it comes to the name, but it's definitely not ''The'' Donkis. This leads me to believe that "Who? Donkis is behind all this?" is not correct either. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:10, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:I heard this myself. It's definitely not just "Donkis". It does, at least, begin with an "oo" sound. Oodonkis. Udonkis? The tag only reads "onkis", so it's hard to say what it is. C'mon, TBC! Show some sketches or a quote of the week that'll clear this up for us! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:17, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::I think I get what you're saying, but the thing's name is on its tag and there doesn't seem to be much space for more letters. (If it IS something other than "Donkis", expect a QoW or something.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:14, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::Upon pulling out my headphones to check another line, I noticed that... you're absolutely right. There's a clear consonant (I think a "P") and "oo" sound both times Homestar says the dino's name. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Let's go with Pudonkis as a good guess of spelling. Fine with everybody? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::::'Swhat I hear, too. I think it's a portmanteau of Donkis and the [[Wikipedia:Pudong|Pudong]] district of Shanghai. (Not really, but hey, crackpot theories are better than none, right?) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::The first time I swear he says "Cute Donkis," but the second time is so not clear. [[User:Kevinchai|Kevinchai]] 21:10, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::I changed my mind, it actually is Pudonkis.
:::::::It has to be Pudonkis. I almost moved the page, but wasn't sure this is "case closed" yet.. when it is, someone else can move [[Donkis]] to [[Pudonkis]]. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:41, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I think, at this point, the only real question is the spelling (it could be "Poodonkis".) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:42, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I think that the name is Donkis, and Homestar has a habit of forgetting names and words, so it comes later as Pudonkis. In 50 e-mails, he forgot the word "deleted". In looking old, he called Homsar "Homestar."[[User:StrongBadFan99998|StrongBadFan99998]] 04:18, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I myself thought his name was Drew Donkis, before I read the transcript. Then it said "Who, Donkis is behind all this?". But now it says "Pudonkis is behind all this?". I am still thinking that his name is Drew Donkis. Why? it's [[Strong Mad|Strong Mad's]]. What does that have to do with anthing? Because in [[the facts|the facts]], Strong Mad named his claymation dinosaur [[Doug the dino|Doug the dino]]. [[Image:cantsayjob.png|20px]] [[User:Don't say jorb 101|Don't say jorb 101]] [[Image:cantsayjob.png|20px]] 7:54, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::What does doug have to do with anything? It's a different name. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::Strong Mad acts like a little kid sometimes. And what do little kid's do but name stuffed animals stuff like "Benny" or "Johnny". Doug the dino and Drew Donkis might be Strong Mad's names for his dinosaurs.
::::::::::[[Image:cantsayjob.png|20px]] [[User:Don't say jorb 101|Don't say jorb 101]] [[Image:cantsayjob.png|20px]] 7:53 PM, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

:This week's [[Quote of the Week]] confirms it. It's spelled Poodonkis.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 22:06, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
::Off topic but wiki related: Do TBC specifically tailor their quotes to clear up ambiguities on the wiki?? [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 01:13, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Sometimes it sure looks that way, though of course this is over a month overdue for clearing up this one. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:14, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

== 1984 ==

Ok. This is big. Follow me here. At the beginning and ending of the cartoon is the pumpkin card with the Roman numeral "23" under it. OK, this is because the deck only has 22 cards...BUT...23 years ago...was 1984. I realize that it was pointed out above that there's a Nickelodeon connection. OK. There's a MASSIVE 1984 connection.

In 1984 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Volkoff#Career Volkoff Teamed up with the Iron Sheik.] 
In 1984 the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Can%27t_Do_That_On_Television#Nickelodeon top rated children's show in America was ''You Can't Do That On Television''] 
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_To_The_Future ''Back to the Future'' was 1985]...ok...that's close...and...time travel...off by a year. Also, in 1984, John De Lorean's cars faced tremendous problems as he was arrested for coke. Remeber, in the movie... 
So So Def was founded by Jermaine Dupree in [http://www.musicianguide.com/biographies/1608004503/Jermaine-Dupri.html 1984.] 
In 1984 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Jackson Jesse Jackson] ran for president, not Sharpton, even though today they are generally said in the same breath. HOWEVER, Sharpton [http://www.answers.com/topic/al-sharpton first received national attention in 1984] for leading public outcry against the relaxed treatment towards [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Goetz Bernard Goetz] 
Richard Scarry wrote five books in 1984; [http://www.amazon.com/Richard-Scarrys-Busy-Learn-Book/dp/0307155404/ref=sr_1_449/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-449 ''Busy Fun and Learn Book''], [http://www.amazon.com/Pig-Will-Wont-Manners-Knee-High/dp/0394865855/ref=sr_1_452/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-452 ''Pig Will and Pig Won't''], [http://www.amazon.com/Meet-Animals-Scarry-Word-Book/dp/0600389731/ref=sr_1_453/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-453 ''Meet the Animals''], [http://www.amazon.com/Holiday-Scarry-Word-Book/dp/060038974X/ref=sr_1_454/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-454 ''On Holiday''], and finally most significantly...[http://www.amazon.com/Lowly-Worms-Bath-Richard-Scarry/dp/0394868382/ref=sr_1_451/104-3792925-0321504?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193799073&sr=1-451 ''Lowly Worm's Bath''] 
I don't know that much about Cacodemons. In 1984 [http://www.amazon.ca/Cacodemon-roi-B-Chartreux/dp/2853760456 ''Cacodemon Roi''] was written, and the [third version of D&D was in late 1983, which apparently uses these things. 
In the 1980's ''The Far Side'' was huge, and the first [http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&EAN=9780836220629 ''Far Side Gallery''] was published. 
Prince's [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_Rain_%28album%29 ''Purple Rain''] was writen in 1984. 
''Dangermouse'' first hit the States on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DangerMouse June 4, 1984.] 
The noony noony typewriter from Sesame Street...the famous [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Hooper death of Mr. Hooper Episode] was Thanksgiving of 1983 (almost '84.) 
The last two are kind of stretches. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_and_Pete ''Pete and Pete''] didn't start until 1993, and the character of Andy was created for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Shame_Theatre No Shame Theater] which started in '86, BUT...ok...the show, Pete and Pete, their Theme Song was written by Polaris...which was founded in ...everybody? [http://www.cannit.com/polaris/polarisbiography.htm Yes, 1984.] 
Then there's Strong Bad. The Xenomorph makes more sense here. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_%28film%29 ''Alien''] was made in '79, but the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_%28video_game%29 video game was made in 1984.] In addition, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridley_Scott Riddley Scott,] who made Alien, made the very famous [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_(television_commercial) 1984 Apple\Macintosh commercial]. 
Beetlejuice however...Beetlejuice was 1989...Ghostbusters was '84, and some sites seem to have that confused ([http://www.cinemetrics.lv/saltdb.php A], [http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-53635650.html%3Frefid%3Dgg_x_02&sa=X&oi=archive&ct=result&cd=1&usg=AFQjCNE-PwwBX5WjqAcTWwce_JcmZSuHcQ B], [http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-53635746.html%3Frefid%3Dgg_x_02&sa=X&oi=archive&ct=result&cd=2&usg=AFQjCNGQgg1-r9FPvhI6NlAEunsNKsNKmg C], [http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.newspaperarchive.com/newspapers1/na0025/2908843/15884356.html&sa=X&oi=archive&ct=result&cd=3&usg=AFQjCNHrE8oDQcvN264Cr5IPDIAngQpQAQ D,] [http://www.20minutos.es/cine/cartelera/interprete/2404/2/ E])...Keaton was in Johnny Dangerously in 1984...and Burton made Frankenweenie in 1984...''Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy's'' ''So Long and Thanks For All The Fish'' was written in 1984, and Ford Prefect was from the vacinity of Betelgeuse...but ok, on this one...it's a stretch. Maybe because he's Strong Sad's [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brother_%28Nineteen_Eighty-Four%29 Big Brother]. Not sure. 
 
But...two more quotes....One from Homestar..."Brother called up Marzipan right before I ran into you." Not Big Brother? Maybe...but...from the book ''1984''..."It was bliss, it was eternity."
--[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 05:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

:I don't know. Most of these seem to be waaay too much of a stretch to be in the main article. Alien Video game? Okay, a Lowly Worm book was published in 1984, but the character was created long before that. Mr. Hooper's death and the Back to the Future movie are NOT 1984 references, and close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades... {{unsigned|220.19.16.13|06:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)}}

::I have to agree — I think the connections are a quite a stretch. Probably the only reason that there's some connection to 1984 in some of them is that TBC tend to reference things from the '80s. I'm going to remove the info from the article for now (the info I removed can be seen {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Jibblies_2&diff=511747&oldid=511741 here}}). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

::: But wait, you forgot a reference. XXIII represents 23, right? Well 23 is also the name of a movie made in '07 about the number 23 being numerologically connected to everything. So much so that Jim Carry goes crazy trying to convince everyone of the meaningless connections, and torches his career. CREEPY, hunh? :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 01:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Some are more firm than others. Prince's biggest work was Purple Rain. That's 1984. That's firm. Dangermouse started here in '84. The wrestler became huge in '84. (You have to understand, the teamup wasn't just a "sporting event," it was a rather noted infamous move, they combined a "Russian" and an "Arab" into one "Evil team," that's why he's remembered. Sharpton literally first hit headlines...Farside's first gallery...YCDTOT, in 1984, it was THE #1 show amoung children, that year, and only that year. So So Def started in '84. I mean the rest are iffy, but that's not enough to raise an eyebrow, given the XXIII, seriously? Plus, the 1983 ones, they were all post Halloween, Thanksgiving and Christmas, so they were also both "XXIII" years ago, so yeah, that is close enough outside of both horseshoes, and handgrenades--[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 11:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC).
:I'm not into elaborate conspiracy theories. This is what Homestar would call a coinkydink. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 15:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::(he would?) [[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 23:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::OK, so Homestar would say, "Yeah, yeah, you're pwobabwy wight." But everybody else would say it's a coincidence. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 04:10, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Fhqwhgads ==

I noticed when the painting is about to jibblie Strong Bad, he says his normal "Come on in here!" However, he says the first "come on" like in the song "Everybody to the Limit."

Confirm?
--[[User:144.80.83.157|144.80.83.157]] 18:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:I think he's just trying to emphasize the "come on", and add a little suspense. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 18:50, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
-
I think it's a reference.([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 17:29, 5 November 2007 (UTC))
:I'm not convinced. It sounds to me more like simply adding pauses between the words. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
::I think it's a reference. The sudden drop out of the background music seems to give special focus to the words, and the Rocoulm has definitely used other character references - like Marzipan's answering machine and showing up in the midst of Strong Sad's nerdiness. ([[User:Meltingemail|Meltingemail]] 03:23, 9 November 2007 (UTC))
i can listen to opening part of song in my head and mix with roculm's "come on" and yeah that sounds exactly like it. prob still for the suspense though . [[User:Imdaman]]
== Horrible Painting Card Number ==

The Horrible Painting tarot card is numbered "II" which is the Roman numeral 2. This relates to the fact that this is "Jibblies 2". It's a very quick thing that belongs on the Trivia section as people most likely don't notice - and the Brothers Chaps did put that little touch in. '''Please stop removing it just because I'm not registered'''. I say that because it's valid trivia (As valid as what the tarot cards say on the back!) and yet it keeps getting removed when other stuff isn't. It's a true fact, and it's real trivia. So stop it. >:O -- [[User:208.60.233.43|208.60.233.43]] 22:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:Hmmm, but how do you know it's II because of the toon's title? Couldn't it be coincidence? It's really a guess, that's why it shouldn't be on there. Please don't be frustrated by this, it happens to all of us, even sysops. Keep on tranglin'!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::By the way, if you think people aren't taking your edits seriously because you're unregistered, you could [[Special:Userlogin|change that quickly]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:59, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::And the 666 on Marzipan's answering machine could be a coincidence. :D heh. Sorry to get so mad, but... It's crazy how wikis get to the point that people just lie in wait for something to delete. It's like writing "the sky is blue" in an article and someone says "You don't know that for sure" and removes it. -- [[User:208.60.233.25|208.60.233.25]] 15:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Pretty Good, ..? ==
Horrible Painting says, "How's it going, man?" and Homestar responds: "Pretty good, ____________" .. how do we fill in the blank? "Creep-take"? That's what I hear; it sure doesn't sound like the recent change to "creep-stakes".. Neither makes sense, unless someone can explain it to me. Ideas? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:26, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
: Some poster said that Homestar has problems with the letter "S" as justification for "Creepstakes", but that's not true — "R" is the letter Homestar has problems with. I don't recall him ever having a problem with "S". I'm with either -cake or -take. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, maybe creepcake. As a portmanteau of creep and cupcake.. That could be. I say we stick with creepcake, unless we get a QOTW or something to contradict it. It makes the most sense.. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:40, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Hey, y'alls, perhaps you'd like to relocate your responses to [[#Creep...wha?]]. But please read our responses too! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Oops, sorry about that. I didn't read the whole page, and didn't see that convo as I skimmed the TOC. I should have done a Ctrl-F. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::No probalo. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:16, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::Homestar does have a SLIGHT problem with "S", it sometimes comes out as a semi-lisp. -- [[User:208.60.233.25|208.60.233.25]] 15:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Gibbliet ==

Who do so many think the KoT is saying "Giblet giblet giblet" when he's jibblified? There is an unmistakable long "E" sound and no trace of a "T". Yes, he says "giblet" a couple of lines earlier, but that doesn't mean it's what he says when he actually has the jibblies. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:40, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:I listened to them one at a time; each time he is saying "giblet" .. Besides believing my ears, The KoT saying "giblet" is in-character hilarity. Makes perfect sense. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:: So why the long "E"s? He IS saying a long "E" sound each time, and he does NOT the one time he really says "giblet". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:59, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't hear long e's i hear "giblet" {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:01, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Listen with headphones. Keep the volume high-ish (not so high you blow out your ears, of course, but it helps.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:14, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::PS. I mean it helps to use headphones and turn up the volume.
:::::Sorry, Jay, I don't hear it either. Just "giblet" with a little schwa sound stuck between the syllables. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:22, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::ME TOO. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:24, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::How can I be the only person to hear it? No matter when I pause, no matter how closely I listen (in fact, the closer I listen, the better I hear it), no matter how many times, I ALWAYS hear the long "E" in the KoT's "Jibblie jibblie" bit. Every single time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:30, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I also hear "Jibblie"... but I can kinda almost hear "giblet" if I really try for it. The long E is cut a little short, the stop just before the J starts a little earlier than normal... which almost sounds like a "T" if I do the aural equivalent of tilting my head and squinting... but it's still definitely "Jibblie". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:57, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I hear a string of "giblet"s. I remember thinking so when I first saw the toon, and it sounded the same a few minutes ago when I listened again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

== Reference to a web comic? ==

I removed the so-called reference "Pudonkis the Dromiceiomimus stands in the same pose as the Dromiceiomimus from Dinosaur Comics." Now it's back, with the claim that the "author seems to think [it's a reference] (check out the news for 30 Oct)" .. ahem .. The author of a web comic assuming a reference does not make it so. [http://www.qwantz.com/archive/001095.html The Dromiceiomimus is the white one.] Opinions? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:02, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:The additional bit of information is that the particular strip I liked to has a H*R reference (namely [[Fhqwhgads]]). It seems highly likely that there is a little mutual appreciation, combined with a very parclulular pose and and an uncommon dinosaur which just happens to be part of the comic. To me, that seems more than just coincidence nor TTATOT. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::A dinosaur as obscure as a "dromiceiomimus", standing in the exact same pose that the character Dromiceiomimus stands in for every single episode of a very-popular webcomic (one which has even been referenced in a [http://www.fool.com/personal-finance/saving/2007/10/18/dont-save-like-tyrannosaurus-rex.aspx Motley Fool article]), which has previously slipped in references to H*R - I think this one is indisputable. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:06, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, it certainly is disputable! But to me, it seems likely that this is a reference - solely based on SB saying the whole name instead of just "dinosaur". That's definitely a hint.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:23, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, the "parclulular" pose doesn't sell me, but once again I'm out of my element. I don't have an appreciation for web comics whatsoever and certainly wouldn't know which ones are popular. This one in "parclulular" doesn't appear to be entertaining in the least (granted, that's my opinion, but everyone's entitled to my opinion), so how could I know that it's popular? And popularity doesn't necessarily make it a reference, but if it's such a slam dunk, keep it. Whatever. Oh, and I don't mind saying that I don't know what a Motley Fool is, either. And don't waste keystrokes explaining it to me. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::It's a reference. Especially coming on the heels of the recent SBemail "Web Comics", which shows The Bros. know their, well, Web Comics. [[User:Stev0|Stev0]] 04:15, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:When have you ever even heard of a dromiceiomimus except in Dinosaur Comics? It's not like Pudonkis is a stegosaurus or a T-rex, or even a pachycephalosaurus or a dimetrodon. This is a seriously obscure species of dinosaur. The likelihood of TBC choosing it randomly, AND putting it in the same strange, awkward posture as that of the dromiceiomimus in Dinosaur Comics by sheer coincidence, is extremely low. Especially since it means they'd have to have never seen Dinosaur Comics before, and it's clear from [[web comics]] that they read at least a few web comics. -invisible_map

== Horrible Rocoulm ==

I think there should be better seperation between the terms Rocoulm and Horrible Painting. It's a little confusing in the transcript because the image on the tarot card is just of Rocoulm sans canvas, and when Homestar steps inside the painting, he's not inside Rocoulm himself. The way it's worded now has Homestar steping into the painting and then talking to the painting, from inside it's belly or something. The character's name is Rocoulm and the Horrible Painting is his domicile.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 02:40, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:The horrible painting itself doesn't talk, the subject of the painting does! So, I agree. Separate. It should read: "...the Horrible Painting approaches him from behind.} '''ROCOULM:''' Come on in heeeeeeere.... " etc. Any naysayers? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::Thing is, despite how confidently it's stated on the Horrible Painting's page, we actually don't know the name of the subject of the painting - we just THINK it's Rocoulm because we don't know what else "Rocoulm" could mean. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:19, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Well if we're going to state it so confidently somewhere else, shouldn't it be the same wiki-wide? Well, I don't think it's a big deal to call it Rocoulm, but if we can't, how about at least call it "Demon Holding a Tourch"? That would do just as well for cutting confusion.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 23:41, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
::::We could just call him the Horrible Painting Demon, eh?--[[User:Spirit-O-Saint-Loolie|Spirit-O-Saint-Loolie]]

== Marzipan's smile ==

Anyone else notice that Marzipan stops smiling during Homestar's easter egg for no adequately explored reason? Maybe she's still pissed off about what Homestar said to her during ''her'' easter egg, but that's an unusual disconnect.
:They probably forgot to change it, not after Marzipan's easter egg, but after Bubs'. She also stops smiling in The Poopsmith's and The King of Town's easter eggs, which were added later. {{User:Mee/sig}} 09:39, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Nightmare Before Christmas? ==
Looks like the odd colors inside the painting may be a reference to this black light scene in Nightmare Before Christmas. Anyone?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DnH_OJcpZYQ
*I think it's more a reference to the fact that it's a black light painting. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 02:15, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
*It was probably to match the cartoony style of the Horrible Painting. And I don't get the immediate connection to blacklight. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 18:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

== Holy Water? ==

When Strong Bad says he Needs Holy Water, It is a referance to Castlevania. - Toonypie
*No, it's not. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 02:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Holy Water is an old, old cliche associated with horror films, mainly vampire and werewolf films. Castlevania was only carrying on the tradition. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 18:28, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

== Inverted colors? ==

I don't think Homestar's colors are inverted when he's inside the Horrible Painting. If you copy paste an image of him in the Horrible Painting onto a program such as MS Paint, and invert the colors, Homestar does not go back to his regular colors. [[User:Thrashmeister|Thrashmeister]] 15:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
: You're right. The magenta-and-white stripes on Homestar's shirt would be green-and-black when inverted, and his yellow wig would be blue. Actually, Homestar's shirt is red-and-blue striped and his wig is brown. I removed the fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:12, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

== Person of the Year 2006 Reference ==

I really want to delete the reference to the time Magazine "You" cover, but it's gone back and forth several times already so there's obviously someone who thinks it's a noteworthy reference. (Can I request that it be STUFF'd?) -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 17:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
:Seriously, why can't this be a double reference? I saw the screen cap you posted which convinced me of the Big Lebowski reference, but the nature of the 2006 Person of The Year cover makes it plausible as an additional reference. (We are talking about an internet cartoon show, after all— exactly the sort of content that the Time article was targeting.) It really does work either way. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 18:20, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
::While your point regarding the "targeted content" is what I'd consider the most convincing argument so far for inclusion of PotY 06 as a reference, there just isn't enough in the toon to convince me that there's any relation. Examples of things that would be evidence of such: If it looked at all like the cover in question, if it said "Person of the Year", or "2006" or "You", if the mirror was all crinkly and distorted like the foil ones used for that issue, or if Strong Mad made a comment to the effect that "YOU ARE PERSON OF THE YEAR!" I will admit, however, that it really doesn't matter whether it's there or not - it's just a Wiki about a cartoon. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:12, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:Agree with Father Ted. I don't think the "You" cover fits very well, especially since there's a much more obvious reference choice. I also think it's about time to STUFF this but a lot of people get touchy about that so I don't have the guts to start it.([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 17:27, 5 November 2007 (UTC))
::Nor do I. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:12, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Personally, I think the way the "Time" mirror fact is worded now (no Lebowski, no 2006 cover) seems to be best way. It gets at the base reference. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:00, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
::I disagree, since it's now simply stating the obvious. Given the [[The Big Lebowski|history of references to the movie]], I think it's fair to say that it's a Big Lebowski reference. While Loafing claims the fact was "patently false" as written, probably based on the "exactly the same" wording, I figure it should read "...very similar to a mirror shown in the film..." I know I prompted a STUFF of the "You" cover, but here I'd be tempted to STUFF the Lebowski thing. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

== CGA, not CMYK ==

I would question the link to the CMYK color model on the remark about Homestar in the painting...the colours are reminiscent of [[Wikipedia:Color_Graphics_Adapter|CGA graphics]], a very old graphics standard, while images in the CMYK colour model have no particular affinity for the colours cyan, magenta, yellow, or black. --[[User:Danaris|Danaris]] 16:09, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
:I agree that CMYK doesn't really make sense in that context, but I wouldn't peg it as CGA, either. It appears to be more a "black light" color thing. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

== Meh! ==

As those of you who have been to my talk page (two or three of ya, probably) know, I pride myself in my fluency of a-da Cheeeat. I think I understand his lines while in [[The House of the Brothers Strong]], so I'm gonna go ahead and be '''bold''' and edit them into the commentary. If anyone has any problems with what I added, you know who to blame. -- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 12:33, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
:No, that's bad, we never put words into the cheat's mouth. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:10, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
::Okay, new question. Do we have a style manual here? Because if we don't, we should add one. See [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Manual_of_style Wookieepedia] for a good example of another wiki's special rules.
::My point here is simply that we should add a rule that the Cheat's words are never added to his speech, unless we come to a decision that it's ''really, really'' clear, like that time in [[coloring]] when he said "Okay." --[[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 13:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
:::[[HRWiki:Manual of Style|Yes, we have a manual of style]]. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 13:52, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
::::But guys, The Cheat got the Jibblies. We should put down on the transcript that The Cheat starts making Jibblie-ish noises instead of saying he continues screaming. It really isn't putting words in his mouth. {{User:Neox/sig}} 16:47, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::I wouldn't object to a mention of "Jibblie-ish" noises, but I don't think the rest of it is necessary.[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 21:56, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

== Killer Instinct music? ==

All right, being as though I'm a staff member of SNESMusic.org, I know a bit more about SNES music than is probably healthy.

A recent fun fact states that the music in the toon was "based on" music from Killer Instinct, but going by the existing SPC soundtrack, I'm gonna have to conclude one of two things... One, the SPC set is missing a song, or two, the fact is... well, wrong.

Either way, could whoever added that fact be a bit more specific? -{{User:YK/sig}} 08:54, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
:See [[Image:HR vs KI.ogg]] for a comparison. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:36, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

== Is That Come On In Here A Come On In Here? ==

I noticed that in the easter egg transcript, the "come on in here" is in the form of question . . . is it really? It didn't sound like the Horrible Painting was asking a question. -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]] 23:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, but he sounds somewhat uncertain. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::No he doesn't. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes he does, listen real closely. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I did, and he doesn't, and going back and forth with "yes he did", "no he didn't" isn't going to help anyone, so unless you have something new to say, let's wait for some more opinions. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:33, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:It's very very clear that his inflexion goes up towards the end of the sentence. Very very clear evidence of a question. [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]]
::Yeah, sounds like a question to me, too. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:44, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Why would it be a question? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:54, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Because Homsar is well-known in the Homestar Runner universe for being an odd duck, even to the point where the horrible painting guy might be aware of it. It seems probable that he was nervous about even talking to Homsar, so in crept some doubt that led him to phrasing his "come on in here" in a way that it sounded like a question. And it turns out he was right to be nervous because Homsar ended up giving him the jibblies. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::'Xactly. I agrees with the Fool. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Not that I'm in disagreement or anything, if this is the case, I'm wondering why the Horrible Painting decided to let The Goblin in . . . but I'm pretty sure I'm thinking too hard about this. -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]] 23:01, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::I, too, think it sounds like a question. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 17:38, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== STUFF of the year ===
{{stufffact|The [[Wikipedia: Person of the Year|Time Magazine Person of the Year]] mirror that Strong Mad uses at the beginning of the cartoon refers to Time Magazine's "Person of the Year" award. '''It more specifically refers to the 2006 issue of the award, in which they chose to honor "You."'''}}
The vote was only on the part in '''bold'''.

{{stuffverdict|01:56, 6 November 2007 (UTC)|02:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)|unanimously declined|10|0|Jibblies 2}}

== Costume name glitches ==

Has anybody noticed that when you click and hold somebody at the end, then drag your mouse to Homsar, the names overlap? Seems like something that should be put in the glitches section. [[User:Gollum999|Gollum999]] 05:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:That's not really a notable glitch... It's something very typical of Flash, I think. The Main Pages do that all the time. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:57, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
::Well yeah, but its listed as a glitch in the main page section, right? [[User:Gollum999|Gollum999]] 16:11, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

==The LOADING==
Is this a possible reference to the Highlander II: The Quickening? They're making fun of sequel conventions, and Highlander II is a famously bad sequel. That's the first thing that sprung to mind when I saw the loading screen. --[[User:129.237.88.160|129.237.88.160]] 08:22, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think so. All the tarot cards in the toon begin with "The", and the one on the loading screen is no exception. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:24, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

== Jibblies Page Unlinked? ==

This seems so obvious that I figure I'm simply overlooking it, but shouldn't [[Jibblies]] be linked somewhere in this article? -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

==Jibble Jibblies==
Looks like Homsar ''reflected'' the jibblies causing the [[Horrible Painting]] to get the jibblies. {{User:HAJ/sig}} 22:35, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
:To me, it appears that the Horrible Painting's jibblies had no effect, and Homsar responded with his ''own'' jibblies rays from his hat. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 23:34, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
::I agree with the Reverend. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:35, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I agree with HAJ, But we never know like Sweet Cuppin' Cakes
::::This is all speculation. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:55, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

== Ushanka ==

Under Explanations:
*A [[Wikipedia:Ushanka|ushanka]] ... is a round fur hat, usually black, traditionally worn by Russian men. ...
Er... We're adding an explanation "fun fact" to explain something that only exists on the page because ''we'' used an obscure word in the transcript? Isn't that a little convoluted and self-indulgent? I'm going to take this out and simplify the transcript. If others feel strongly that this article needs to educate people about what a ushanka is, then put it in Remarks where it belongs. I generally expect Explanations to explain things that appeared the toon itself. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:58, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

:Immediately reverted as "important". But why don't we explain that the thing around Sarducci Bad's neck is called a [[Wikipedia:Stole|stole]], and it's used in Roman Catholic vestments with various symbolic colors? (Oops! He's wearing red in the wrong season!) Or that the thing around Marziprince's neck is called a [http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/jabots jabot], and it was a common style in the 18th century?

:Because their only relevance to the toon is that they're duplicating the costumes of external characters. Once I know who each costume is supposed to be, details about why the originals dressed that way usually don't enhance my enjoyment of the toon. Especially when it boils down to something as mundane as, "Strong Mad wears a stereotypically Russian hat," when Nikolai Volkoff was obviously a stereotypical Russian character.

:On top of that, it makes the article hard to read when there's a word nobody knows listed in the Transcript with the explanation pages lower, and then a word nobody knows explained in the Fun Facts with no mention of it in the toon. Like I said, if it's really "important", put it in one spot: Remarks. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:11, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

::I'm inclined to agree with TheNicestGuy. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I can see both sides of this argument, but I agree with TheNicestGuy for leaving it colloquial in the transcript, and then putting\leaving the word and link to ushanka in Explanations. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 05:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Backup is nice, but someone will have to actually do the honors if we're satisfied. I loathe revert wars, so I make it a policy never to make the same edit twice. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

:The fact itself is kinda dubious, methinks, after looking at the wiki article. Ushanka doesn't translate to hat, shapka does, which is what it's called in English-speaking world (indeed, that's the only thing I've heard it called besides generic "Russian hat" and the like). I'd support the fact, (I do like the idea of having a more general term in the transcript), but I think it might need to be reworked. On a similar note, although the had SM wears is instantly recognizable as a stereotypical russian hat, it doesn't seem to have earflaps, which are apparently necessary to truly be a ushanka. Is this important? -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 16:35, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

::Why, yes. Yes it is. Take a look at [http://www.ganges.com/Dynamite_Kid_vs_Nikolai_Volkoff_Wrestling_Classic_1985_v1157022/ this video], which has a few close-ups of Volkoff in his hat. It's not a ushanka! It's sort of a... furry pillbox hat, no flaps. Which is exactly what Strong Mad wears too. Faithful piece of costume, nothing more. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:36, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

== Giblets ==

Should we explain what giblets are? I doubt that very many people know what they are. Or is that not neccesary? [[User:TreeWithAChainsaw|TreeWithAChainsaw]] 22:28, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:Seeing as we explain giblet gravy in [[more armies#Explanations|more armies]], I don't think it's too farfetched to add a fact explaining giblets. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:44, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== Kind of adding ==

Kind of an addition to the answering machine thing, about 666, I was thinking we may want to add that to the article about it, so I'm kind of new here, and I need to know just where I would put it under, IF we want to add it that is. ([[User:Dynamite|Dynamite]] 03:17, 26 February 2008 (UTC))

A Jumping Jack Contest

2008-01-22T00:19:33Z

Dynamite: /* Inside References */

[[Image:jumpingjackcontest.png|thumb|Day 1 of the contest]]

Strong Bad, Strong Sad, Homestar Runner, Pom Pom, and Bubs enter a [[Contests|jumping jack contest]]. The person who continually jumps jacks for the longest wins. Strong Bad [[Cheating|cheats]] with the help of The Cheat and Strong Mad, of course. It is based loosely on the [[Original Book|original Homestar Runner book]], and has since been taken off the site. You can play a [[Strong Lib]] while it loads.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The Announcer}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}

'''Places:''' [[Contest Area]], [[The Field]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Swimming Pool]]

'''Running Time:''' 5:17

'''Date:''' 1999

'''Page Title:''' Jumping Jack Contest

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 2}}
== Strong Bad Lib Transcript ==
What I Saw Last Week 
a Strong Badlib

No, seriously. I'm a pretty ''(adjective)'' person. But I saw this one ''(noun)'' last week and boy was it ''(adjective)''. This ''(adjective)'' guy was at ''(restaurant)'' and he started ''(-ing verb)'' ''(plural noun)''. I was like, <nowiki>'</nowiki>''(exclamation)''! You're ''(-ing verb)'' ''(plural noun)''.' He told me to stop ''(-ing verb)'' him. I ''(verb (past))'' on his shoes.

== Transcript ==
''{The beginning credits roll with characters jumping jacks in background. Zoom in on Bubs, Strong Bad, Homestar, Pom Pom, and Strong Sad standing on a large, wooden platform with a banner on it, reading "A JUMPING JACK CONTEST!" The Announcer appears onscreen.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Good afternoo—

''{He is cut off by microphone feedback and winces.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to a jumping jack contest!

''{Cut to a close-up of Bubs doing a quick dance. His name appears onscreen, as with the rest of the contestants.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Our five hot contestants—

''{Pan right to Strong Bad hitting the sides of his head.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' —will compete to see who can sustain their jumping jacks—

''{Pan right to Homestar Runner quickly hopping up and down.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' —for the longest time!

''{Pan right to Pom Pom bouncing from side to side.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Any contestant that ceases to jump jack, even for a moment,—

''{Pan right to Strong Sad.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' — is out of the competition.

''{Strong Sad slowly sighs. Cut to The Announcer.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' On your mark... get set... go!

''{He holds up a starting pistol and fires it into the air. Cut to silhouettes of the contestants doing jumping jacks. Cut to a close-up of Strong Sad.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{after two jacks}'' Whew. ''{sweats}'' I quit.

''{Cut to close-up of Homestar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{still jumping jacks}'' All right, Strong Sad! That's twice as many as last year!

''{Cut to Strong Bad jumping jacks. The Cheat emerges from behind the wooden platform.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ah, The Cheat! Is everything ready?

''{The Cheat nods}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Good! Now go, and win us this competition!

''{As Strong Bad says this, The Cheat races off.}''

''{Cut to Homestar. The Cheat jumps up on stage with a glass of melonade on a platter.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, The Cheat, what's up?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{seen through the glass}'' A glass of melonade for me? Hmmm... okay!

''{The Cheat holds up the platter, and Homestar drinks it through a straw.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thanks, The Cheat!

''{Cut to a grassy area, empty except for Strong Mad standing by with some kegs of melonade. As The Cheat scurries into the frame and sets down the glass of melonade, Strong Mad refills The Cheat's empty glass.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

''{The Cheat runs off with the refilled glass. Cut back to Homestar at the Competition Area. The Cheat goes to Homestar Runner and offers him another glass.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, another one! ''{drinks}''

''{We cut to a montage of Homestar Runner drinking glass after glass of melonade, Strong Mad refilling the glasses, and The Cheat fetching him more while music plays. Soon Homestar Runner has a huge belly and he jumps his jacks with crossed legs.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh... I drank too many melonades... ''{bilious musical effect}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, you not looking so good Homestar. I think you better drop out.

''{Cut to the empty field. The Cheat and Strong Mad high five. Cut back to the Competition Area.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Seriously, Pom Pom, I'm about to pee my pants.

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbles}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Great idea, Pom Pom! But do you think he can get here in time?

''{Cut to a close-up of Homestar's head. Homestar closes his eyes and gives a sigh of relief. Zoom out to show The Poopsmith walking away holding a jar of "yellow liquid." Homestar's belly is now empty.}''

''{Cut to a screen displaying the words "Day 2" on a white silhouette of Bubs jumping jacks. Cut back to the competition.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, Bubs. Looks like quite a line is building up at your concession stand.

''{Cut to Bubs' stand. The "customers" waiting in line are The Cheat and Strong Mad. Strong Mad taps his foot while The Cheat looks around.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

''{Cut to a close-up of Bubs. He stops jumping jacks and his eyes grow wide.}''

'''BUBS:''' Hot DOG!

''{Bubs runs off leaving a cloud of smoke. Cut back to the Stand, where Bubs enters it.}''

'''BUBS:''' What can I get for you fine gentlemen?

''{He holds up various treats, including a bag of popcorn, a sno cone, a "BERSHEY" candy bar, a soft drink, small wrapped candies, and a "POO-BAR" candy bar. Strong Mad and The Cheat walk away.}''

'''BUBS:''' Oh... I'm such a dummy.

''{Cut back to the Competition Area.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{through speakers}'' And so ends Day 2 of our competition with only THREE hot contestants left!

''{Day changes to night.}''

''{Pom Pom's silhouette spins onscreen, with the words "Day 3". It is now daytime again. Cut to Homestar, who is sweating.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' How you holding up Pom Pom?

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbles}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' How 'bout you, Strong Bad?

''{Zoom out to a full view of the Competition Area. Strong Mad wearing a Strong Bad mask is now on stage in place of Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' I am Strong Bad!

''{Cut to close-up of Pom Pom.}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{frowns angrily, bubbles}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No way, Pom Pom, of course that's Strong Bad! ''{to Strong Mad}'' Ok, Strong Bad, are you Strong Bad?

''{Zoom out.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' I am Strong Bad!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': ''{to Pom Pom}'' See?

''{Cut to close-up of Pom Pom, who has a disbelieving look on his face.}''

''{Strong Bad's mask covers the screen, with the words "Day 4". Cut to Homestar, who is looking rather tired.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{wearily}'' I don't know how much longer I can make it, Pom Pom.

''{Zoom into Strong Bad's mask.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{off-screen}'' And Strong Bad's ''still'' looking good!

''{Zoom out to reveal The Cheat wearing a Strong Bad Mask. Cut to a pool, where we see Strong Bad, lounging in a chair at the poolside with a radio and a glass of melonade.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ah, let's see. I want to thank The Cheat for helping me to cheat—oh no, wait, I shouldn't say that. Let's try this again. I want to thank ''Strong Mad'' for helping me to cheat. There, that's better.

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{through Strong Bad's radio}'' Homestar Runner is fading fast and could drop out any moment!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{gets up}'' Ah, that's my cue! ''{exits screen}''

''{Cut to a side-view of the Competition Area. The Cheat is still in place of Strong Bad, and Homestar looks very weary.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I give up, Pom Pom. I'm about to jump my last jack.

''{Pom Pom, with a very angry look on his face, walks over to The Cheat. Cut to a close-up of The Cheat, where Pom Pom appears and overshadows The Cheat.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Pom Pom, what are you doing?!

''{Cut to The Cheat's view from inside the mask. Pom Pom reaches down to pull off the mask, and The Cheat lets out some startled exclamations as this is happening. Pom-Pom pulls off the mask. Cut to front view of The Cheat.}''

'''BUBS:''' ''{off-screen}'' Hey, it's The Cheat,—

''{The Cheat grabs a Homestar Runner face cut-out from offscreen and puts it over his face, then throws it away.}''

'''BUBS:''' —and it looks like he's cheating!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

''{Homestar Runner stops jumping jacks. A barber-shop style vocal arpeggio is heard, and we zoom in more and more to Homestar's face on each note.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' If that's The Cheat, then where's Strong Bad?

''{Cut to an empty field, where Strong Bad is walking to the Competition Area. The camera moves along with Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Who is the guy that wins all the contests? That's me, Strong Bad. Except... maybe for that one contest. Or maybe more than one contest.

''{Cut back to Homestar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' There he is!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{annoyed}'' Oh! Holy... crap.

''{A trophy reading "What a Great Prize This Is." spins onscreen. Homestar holds it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thanks, everybody, but this trophy really belongs to my best friend, Pom Pom.

''{Strong Bad walks onscreen wearing a Pom Pom costume, and takes the trophy from Homestar.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, give me that! Uh, I mean — bubble, bubble-dee-bubble. Dubble Bubble.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You said it, Pom Pom! We are best friends!

''{Fade out to a screen reading "THE END."}''

== Fun Facts ==

=== Remarks ===
*According to [[Matt Chapman]] in [[Club Aquatica Interview - 29 Oct 2003|the Club Aquatica interview]], "['[[Marshmallow's Last Stand]]' and 'A Jumping Jack Contest'] will be back on someday. We can’t disclose why they're off, it's a personal reason. If all goes well, they'll be back on the site; we’d like to have everything we've ever done on the site, and it sucks we had to take them off. They'll be back on someday."
*Technically, because arm movements are an important part of jumping jacks, Homestar Runner didn't do any, since he has [[Lack of Visible Arms|no visible arms]]. He also wasn't moving his feet correctly when he was full of melonades.
**Strong Sad didn't do any real jumping jacks either. He just raised his arms and bounced.
**Since The Cheat doesn't have legs, he wasn't doing jumping jacks right either.
*You can easily see that Homestar broke the rules of the contest. He stopped jumping when he drank his first glass of melonade.

=== Goofs ===
*When Homestar's bladder is full, and he says to Pom-Pom "But do you think he can get here in time?", the shading on the red part of his hat changes each time he moves his mouth.
*When Strong Bad tells The Cheat to "win them this competition", a corner of his mouth comes out of his head.
*When Homestar looks down and says, "I give up, Pom Pom", it appears his head was sliding a little bit down his shirt.
*Much or all of this toon does not lip sync very well, especially towards the end. It appears the characters' mouth movements come about half of a second after they say the lines.
*On the menu, after you click "Play game", Strong Bad's head is lower that it should be.
*When the screen zooms out after Homestar pees, he can still be heard moaning even though his mouth is closed.
*During the scene with Strong Bad at the pool, some of the tiles that are covered by the waves in the pool can be seen below the water line.

=== Glitches ===
*After the Strong Lib has been filled out, the text can be highlighted and changed—including the text that wasn't affected by your choices before.
*If the Flash file is paused during the opening credits, the music continues playing until it reaches the part of the score that ends the scene.

=== Inside References ===
*Homestar's line "I drank too many melonades" is a reference to [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]], in which he says the same thing about eating too many marshmallows.
*When Strong Bad mentions the contests he didn't win, he could be referring to the [[Original Book|Strongest Man in the World Contest]] or the wrestling match in Marshmallow's Last Stand.
*This is likely the earliest mention of [[Homestar Runner's pants]].
*This is also one of the earliest sightings of [[guns]].
*This is also the earliest mention of [[peeing]].

=== Real-World References ===
*[[Wikipedia:Dubble Bubble|Dubble Bubble]] is a brand of bubble gum.
*When Bubs holds up his snacks, one is called Bershey, a play on the popular Hershey bars.

=== Fast Forward ===
*On the "Learn to speak The Cheat" record in the Strong Bad Email [[cheat talk]], one of the phrases is "Hey Homestar, would you like 147 glasses of [[melonade]]?", and the Cheat-speak equivalent is the sound he made when offering Homestar the melonade in this cartoon.
*In the Strong Bad Email [[some kinda robot]], Strong Bad sings, "Who's the guy that checks all those emails? That's me Strong Bad!", which is a reference to the song he sings in this cartoon.
*In the toon [[Strong Bad Sings]], one of his songs is titled "Who's the guy that wins all the contests?"
*Homestar drinks too many Melonades again in [[The Luau]].
*Bubs's movements when he does jumping jacks, warms up before the contest, and looks at the line at his stand are all settings in the game [[Dancin' Bubs]].
*The pool background was used again in [[Theme Song Video]], albeit with a diving board added. It was also featured in the email [[keep cool]].
*One of the scenes from this toon was exaggerated in [[Exaggerations]].
*In [[No Hands On Deck]], Homestar says that he hasn't talked about melonade in a while, and then his head changes to its design from this toon.
*Strong Bad actually thanks The Cheat for helping him to cheat in [[Halloween Awards Show]].
*The back of [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] from this toon reappears in [[original]]. Later, [[Crack Stuntman]] says Bubs' line, "What can I get for you fine gentlemen?".

== DVD Version ==
*The Strong Bad Lib game has been removed.
*The audio quality goes back and forth between higher and lower quality. Usually, it's the higher quality, but sometimes, it goes to lower.

== External Links ==
*[[Mirror:jumpinjacks2.html|watch "A Jumping Jack Contest"]] (mirror)
*[[Mirror:jumpinjacks2.swf|view the Flash file for "A Jumping Jack Contest"]] (mirror)

{{subtitlesLinks|jumpinjacks2}}

[[Category:Toons|Jumping Jack Contest, A]]

Death

2008-01-21T23:31:55Z

Dynamite: /* Old-Timey */

[[Image:Sbemail 168.png|thumb|"Oh, he looks so peaceful."]]
There are numerous references to the subject of '''death'''. These range from a [[character]]'s death or near-death, to imagining or behaving as though a character has died. As in many cartoons, when a character dies, the death is usually impermanent — the character may reappear alive, often with no explanation.

==Appearances==
===[[Bad Graphics Ghost]]===
*In an [[Easter egg]] in the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[ghosts]], it is possible to "kill" the Bad Graphics Ghost by erasing the pixels.

===[[Bubs]]===
*In the Strong Bad Email [[pom pom]], Bubs mentions having "almost died the 15th time."
*In [[Sample of Style]], [[Mike Chapman]] rips the cardboard tube that "produces" Bubs's voice. [[Matt Chapman]] says that they will have to kill off Bubs, "just like [[Homeschool Winner]]". A picture of Bubs's grave then appears.
*In the Strong Bad Email [[unnatural]], Strong Bad frequently suggests that they kill the rampaging [[King Bubsgonzola Supreme]].

===[[Cheat Commandos]]===
*In the original [[Cheat Commandos (toon)|commercial]], [[Firebert]] is shown killing two [[Blue Laser Minions]] by blowing up a cliff above them, sending rocks crashing down on top of them. ([[Coach Z]] similarly "kills" five Blue Laser Minion action figures by using [[Reinforcements]]' [[Justice Rocket Backpack Rocket Rocket]] to send a [[pie]] plate crashing down on them.)
*In [[Shopping for Danger]], [[Crackotage]] remarks that [[Reynold]] would "prob'ly die" if he went on a mission with the rest of them, later heading back to base "to make sure Reynold isn't dead".
*In [[Commandos in the Classroom]], two Blue Laser Minions are just about to shoot [[Fightgar]] when we cut away from them.
*In [[Let us give TANKS!]], all of the main Commandos (except [[Reynold]]) are ostensibly killed in a nuclear explosion at the [[Blue Laser Cottage]], along with the [[Blue Laser Commander]] and at least two [[Blue Laser Minions]].
**In the same toon, the commander of the [[Green Helmets]] asks [[Gunhaver]] for air support in a battle because of the "heavy losses" they're suffering.
***Also in the same toon, [[Fightgar]] threatens to shoot the Blue Lasers with "bullet-shooting guns" (but it turns out he was just kidding).
* In [[Blue Laserdisc Challenge]], there are several different ways for the [[Blue Laser Commander]] to die if you choose incorrectly, such as being eaten by a monster or cut in half by a bladed pendulum.

===[[Frank Bennedetto]]===
*In the Strong Bad Email [[army]], Frank Bennedetto "dies", after being kicked by Strong Bad. He is later seen alive in [[Labor Dabor]].
**In the email [[more armies]], a memorial statue for Frank Bennedetto is seen. This may mean either that his death was real, or that his service in the Homestarmy was worthy of commemoration.

===[[The Goblin]]===
*In [[Homestarloween Party]], the Goblin is crushed by the short-circuited Visor Robot.

===[[Homestar Runner]]===
*In the Strong Bad Email [[the show]], Homestar says, "But it turned out I didn't die."
*In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 2.0]], Strong Bad as "[[Aliases Used in Prank Calls|Detective Everybody]]" said Homestar was shot 37 times for being too stupid.
*Homestar is in [[Heaven]] on [[Main Page 6]] and is seen in a zombie-like form on [[Main Page 7]].
*In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]], Homestar calls to say he is sinking in quicksand, and says that if Marzipan helps, he would be "really, really still alive."
*In [[the movies]], Strong Bad instructs Homestar to die before firing his bazooka at him.
*In [[winter pool]], Homestar instructs Strong Bad to preserve his body in red jello when he dies.

===[[Homsar]]===
*In the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[homsar]], [[Strong Bad]] "kills" him with the [[Heavy Lourde]] at the request of Vinnie C. Although [[The Brothers Chaps]] intended at first for him to be killed, he was later revealed to be alive but seriously injured in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]]. The Heavy Lourde is dropped on him again on the [[Homsar Main Page]].
*In the Strong Bad Email [[origins]], he and [[Marzipan]] are glued together and "left for dead" at [[The Stick]], even though neither one actually dies.
*In [[cliffhangers]], Strong Bad drops [[Homsar]] and [[The King of Town]] off a [[cliff]].

===[[Kerrek]]===
*In [[interview]], an Easter egg shows him after being "smote" by [[Trogdor]].
*In the game [[TROGDOR!]], when you reach the level 50 interlude, Kerrek is burninated by Trogdor.
*In [[Peasant's Quest]], he is slain by Rather Dashing with his bow and arrow.

===[[The King of Town]]===
*In [[Halloween Fairstival]], after seeing an X-ray of the King's heart, Strong Bad is content to "let the King die in peace."
*In [[cliffhangers]], the King is dropped from a cliff, along with [[Homsar]].
*In [[original]], Strong Bad suggests that the King has died twelve times, each time replaced with a new actor, at least one of which may have been an onion. It should be noted that Marzipan later confirms that Strong Bad "just made all that stuff up", even though an Easter egg shows a graveyard populated solely by Kings of Town I-XII.

===[[Marzipan]]===
*In the Strong Bad Email [[origins]], Marzipan and [[Homsar]] are glued together and "left for dead" at [[The Stick]], even though neither one actually dies. [[Strong Bad]] later comments on Marzipan's "considerable resistance to death".
*In [[Date Nite]], [[Strong Bad]] suggests drowning Marzipan and [[The Cheat]].

===[[Multi-Function Dragon]]===
*In [[KOT's VOQPCS!]], the Dragon is killed when speared by [[The Knight]] in the "instant death" section of his chest.

===[[Old-Timey]]===
*In [[Parsnips A-Plenty]], [[Old-Timey Strong Bad]] falls off a cliff. He is later revealed to be in [[Hell]] in an Easter egg.
*In [[That A Ghost]], all of the [[Characters#Old-Timey|main characters]] are reduced to skeletons, and [[Old-Timey Bubs]] pokes his head out of a grave asking [[Strong Man]] to "please keep it down."
*In [[Decemberween Short Shorts]], [[Rumble Red]] is beheaded by [[Old-Timey Marzipan|Old-Timey Marzipan's]] [[Old-Timey Marzipan's Contraption|machine]], which she gave to him as a [[Decemberween]] present.
:*Also During the Old-Timey portion of Decemberween Short Shorts, [[The Homestar Runner]] is forming a pile of dead rats.
*[[Sickly Sam]] buries himself alive on Tuesdays, and has numerous traits of an undead being, including a partially exposed skeleton.
*In [[Malloween Commercial]], [[Mr. Shmallow]]'s grave is seen in one scene.

===[[Pom Pom]]===
*In the Strong Bad Email [[pom pom]], Kevin wonders what would happen to Pom Pom if he was poked with a pin. Strong Bad decides to try this, except that he would also be blindfolded and Pom Pom would be set on fire with the [[BMW Lighter]]. He believes that Pom Pom exploded in "a big fiery ball that was visible from space", when in reality he got a "severe pummeling" by Pom Pom. He even wrote [[General and Fraulein Pom Pom|Pom Pom's parents]] a letter of condolence.
*In [[Where's The Cheat?]], Strong Bad calls [[Marzipan]] and pretends to be [[Homestar Runner]], and he tells her that he got mad and killed Pom Pom.
*Pom Pom's ghost flies out of his grave on [[Main Page 7]].

===[[Pom Pom's Girls]]===
*In [[Homestarloween Party]], they are zapped by the Visor Robot.

===[[Rather Dashing]]===
*Rather Dashing can die in a variety of ways throughout ''[[Peasant's Quest]]''. The most noteworthy of these is when he gets burninated by [[Trogdor]] at the end of the game.

===[[The Sad Kids]]===
*In [[Homestarloween Party]], they are crushed by the short-circuited Visor Robot, and none of them live.

===[[Señor]] and [[Mr. Bland]]===
*The [[Strumstar Hammer]] Easter Egg from [[kids' book]] writes that Señor died after the grapes squished him.
*According to the email [[origins]], they were by far the most popular characters until they were crushed by a falling [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. However, they manage to reappear in [[Strongest Man in the World]].

===[[sloshy]]===
*In a [[Limozeen: "but they're in space!"]] cartoon from [[Limozeen vs. Sloshy]], the band and their tour bus are destroyed by [[Limozeen]].

===[[Strong Bad]]===
*Strong Bad is in heaven on [[Main Page 6]] and he rises from his grave on [[Main Page 7]].
*Strong Bad's grave is seen at the end of [[replacement]].
*In the email [[time capsule]], an emailer asks Strong Bad how he can be "soooo awesome" if he's dead, and requests that he make a [[The Time Capsule|time capsule]].
*In [[Biz Cas Fri 1]] and [[bike thief]], Strong Bad proclaims he would "rather die" than do the things Strong Sad and Homestar request.
*The Strong Bad Email [[your funeral]] consists entirely of Strong Bad imagining what his funeral would be like.
*An egg in the likeness of Strong Bad's head smashes in [[Eggs (toon)|Eggs]].
*In [[winter pool]], Strong Bad almost suffocates while inside a pool of red gelatin.

===[[Strong Sad]]===
*[[In Search of the Yello Dello Commentary]] — Strong Sad reveals that he ''himself'' dreams of his own death (over and over and over...).
*[[A Folky Tale]] — Strong Sad "faints", making [[Coach Z]] believe he killed him.
*Email [[caffeine]] — Strong Bad concludes that his "test subject" is dead (which Strong Sad immediately denies).
*Email [[impression]] — In complimenting The Cheat's costume, Coach Z says "It's as if Strong Sad was still alive and with us today!"
*Email [[fingers]] — As Strong Bad imagines what it would be like if he used fake fingers, the viewer can see a dead Strong Sad behind the couch in one scene. Also during this sequence, two Easter eggs show Strong Sad stuffed inside a [[Coach Z's Locker Room|locker]] and a [[soapbox]].
*Email [[personal favorites]] — Strong Bad types "I swear on Strong Sad's grave" in the unaired email "[[Tape Leg]] 2".
*[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] — A picture on the first screen shows The Cheat serving Strong Bad a platter with Strong Sad's head on it.
*Email [[retirement]] — "Strong Sad's ghost" and "Strong Sad's corpse" are among the entries in Strong Bad's Cloud Shape Spotting Log, as seen in an Easter egg.
*[[Decemberween Short Shorts]] — Strong Sad's ornament falls to the ground and breaks into several pieces.
*Email [[unnatural]] — Strong Sad paints a picture with the word "Death" on a bar of soap.

===[[Teen Girl Squad]]===
*The main characters in Teen Girl Squad are killed off nearly every episode in a variety of ways, yet they always come back alive in the next issue, and sometimes later in the same issue, as seen with [[Cheerleader]] in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]].
*In an Easter egg of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]], [[What's Her Face]] suggests killing someone off for their tenth [[Teen Girl Squad]] issue.

===[[The Cheat]]===
*The Cheat has his own song, [[The Cheat is Not Dead]].
*In the Strong Bad email [[bedtime story]], The Cheat's vitals are tested after being [[Roach Killa!|bug-bombed]] in order to go to sleep. Strong Bad also says "If we're lucky, the Cheat will wake up alive the next morning".
*In [[Date Nite]], Strong Bad suggests drowning [[Marzipan]] and The Cheat.

===[[Videlectrix Mascot]]===
*At the beginning of [[Peasant's Quest]], when the Videlectrix logo is shown, the mascot runs in with a sword, then trips and impales himself on it.
*At the beginning of [[Where's an Egg?]], when the Videlectrix logo is shown, the mascot shoots the logo with a [[gun]], but the bullet ricochets back and kills him.

===[[Visor Robot]]===
*In [[Homestarloween Party]], memories of his stolen life move him to tears and short out his circuits.

===The [[Where's an Egg?]] Detective===
*If the detective fails to find the [[egg]], he is exiled to Siberia and the game ends with him turning into a skeleton.

===[[The Yello Dello]]===
*During the mountain scene in the [[In Search of the Yello Dello New Version|new version]], [[Pom Pom]] aims his gun at the Yello Dello, but throws it away when Homestar says he wants to "take her alive."

===[[Items#Strong Bad's Computers|Strong Bad's Computers]]===
*Strong Bad's computers often meet with untimely demises, as seen in [[gimmicks]], [[virus]], and [[Biz Cas Fri 3]]. The [[Tandy 400]] returned in ghost form in [[ghosts]], and both the [[Compy 386]] and the Tandy appeared in ghost form after Strong Bad destroyed them in [[retirement]].

===[[Items#The Paper|The Paper]]===
*[[The Paper]] died in the [[the paper|eponymous]] email. After its printer broke, Strong Bad was forced to apply a mercy killing with the [[BMW Lighter]].

==See Also==
*[[Grim Reaper]]
*[[Skulls]]
*[[Strong Bad and Strong Sad's Relationship#Strong Bad Hurting Strong Sad|Strong Bad Hurting Strong Sad]]
*[[Strong Sad's Severed Head]]
*[[The Cheat's Head Exploding]]
*[[Heaven]]
*[[Hell]]

[[Category:Prank running gags]]

Death

2008-01-21T23:31:33Z

Dynamite: /* Old-Timey */

[[Image:Sbemail 168.png|thumb|"Oh, he looks so peaceful."]]
There are numerous references to the subject of '''death'''. These range from a [[character]]'s death or near-death, to imagining or behaving as though a character has died. As in many cartoons, when a character dies, the death is usually impermanent — the character may reappear alive, often with no explanation.

==Appearances==
===[[Bad Graphics Ghost]]===
*In an [[Easter egg]] in the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[ghosts]], it is possible to "kill" the Bad Graphics Ghost by erasing the pixels.

===[[Bubs]]===
*In the Strong Bad Email [[pom pom]], Bubs mentions having "almost died the 15th time."
*In [[Sample of Style]], [[Mike Chapman]] rips the cardboard tube that "produces" Bubs's voice. [[Matt Chapman]] says that they will have to kill off Bubs, "just like [[Homeschool Winner]]". A picture of Bubs's grave then appears.
*In the Strong Bad Email [[unnatural]], Strong Bad frequently suggests that they kill the rampaging [[King Bubsgonzola Supreme]].

===[[Cheat Commandos]]===
*In the original [[Cheat Commandos (toon)|commercial]], [[Firebert]] is shown killing two [[Blue Laser Minions]] by blowing up a cliff above them, sending rocks crashing down on top of them. ([[Coach Z]] similarly "kills" five Blue Laser Minion action figures by using [[Reinforcements]]' [[Justice Rocket Backpack Rocket Rocket]] to send a [[pie]] plate crashing down on them.)
*In [[Shopping for Danger]], [[Crackotage]] remarks that [[Reynold]] would "prob'ly die" if he went on a mission with the rest of them, later heading back to base "to make sure Reynold isn't dead".
*In [[Commandos in the Classroom]], two Blue Laser Minions are just about to shoot [[Fightgar]] when we cut away from them.
*In [[Let us give TANKS!]], all of the main Commandos (except [[Reynold]]) are ostensibly killed in a nuclear explosion at the [[Blue Laser Cottage]], along with the [[Blue Laser Commander]] and at least two [[Blue Laser Minions]].
**In the same toon, the commander of the [[Green Helmets]] asks [[Gunhaver]] for air support in a battle because of the "heavy losses" they're suffering.
***Also in the same toon, [[Fightgar]] threatens to shoot the Blue Lasers with "bullet-shooting guns" (but it turns out he was just kidding).
* In [[Blue Laserdisc Challenge]], there are several different ways for the [[Blue Laser Commander]] to die if you choose incorrectly, such as being eaten by a monster or cut in half by a bladed pendulum.

===[[Frank Bennedetto]]===
*In the Strong Bad Email [[army]], Frank Bennedetto "dies", after being kicked by Strong Bad. He is later seen alive in [[Labor Dabor]].
**In the email [[more armies]], a memorial statue for Frank Bennedetto is seen. This may mean either that his death was real, or that his service in the Homestarmy was worthy of commemoration.

===[[The Goblin]]===
*In [[Homestarloween Party]], the Goblin is crushed by the short-circuited Visor Robot.

===[[Homestar Runner]]===
*In the Strong Bad Email [[the show]], Homestar says, "But it turned out I didn't die."
*In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 2.0]], Strong Bad as "[[Aliases Used in Prank Calls|Detective Everybody]]" said Homestar was shot 37 times for being too stupid.
*Homestar is in [[Heaven]] on [[Main Page 6]] and is seen in a zombie-like form on [[Main Page 7]].
*In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]], Homestar calls to say he is sinking in quicksand, and says that if Marzipan helps, he would be "really, really still alive."
*In [[the movies]], Strong Bad instructs Homestar to die before firing his bazooka at him.
*In [[winter pool]], Homestar instructs Strong Bad to preserve his body in red jello when he dies.

===[[Homsar]]===
*In the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[homsar]], [[Strong Bad]] "kills" him with the [[Heavy Lourde]] at the request of Vinnie C. Although [[The Brothers Chaps]] intended at first for him to be killed, he was later revealed to be alive but seriously injured in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]]. The Heavy Lourde is dropped on him again on the [[Homsar Main Page]].
*In the Strong Bad Email [[origins]], he and [[Marzipan]] are glued together and "left for dead" at [[The Stick]], even though neither one actually dies.
*In [[cliffhangers]], Strong Bad drops [[Homsar]] and [[The King of Town]] off a [[cliff]].

===[[Kerrek]]===
*In [[interview]], an Easter egg shows him after being "smote" by [[Trogdor]].
*In the game [[TROGDOR!]], when you reach the level 50 interlude, Kerrek is burninated by Trogdor.
*In [[Peasant's Quest]], he is slain by Rather Dashing with his bow and arrow.

===[[The King of Town]]===
*In [[Halloween Fairstival]], after seeing an X-ray of the King's heart, Strong Bad is content to "let the King die in peace."
*In [[cliffhangers]], the King is dropped from a cliff, along with [[Homsar]].
*In [[original]], Strong Bad suggests that the King has died twelve times, each time replaced with a new actor, at least one of which may have been an onion. It should be noted that Marzipan later confirms that Strong Bad "just made all that stuff up", even though an Easter egg shows a graveyard populated solely by Kings of Town I-XII.

===[[Marzipan]]===
*In the Strong Bad Email [[origins]], Marzipan and [[Homsar]] are glued together and "left for dead" at [[The Stick]], even though neither one actually dies. [[Strong Bad]] later comments on Marzipan's "considerable resistance to death".
*In [[Date Nite]], [[Strong Bad]] suggests drowning Marzipan and [[The Cheat]].

===[[Multi-Function Dragon]]===
*In [[KOT's VOQPCS!]], the Dragon is killed when speared by [[The Knight]] in the "instant death" section of his chest.

===[[Old-Timey]]===
*In [[Parsnips A-Plenty]], [[Old-Timey Strong Bad]] falls off a cliff. He is later revealed to be in [[Hell]] in an Easter egg.
*In [[That A Ghost]], all of the [[Characters#Old-Timey|main characters]] are reduced to skeletons, and [[Old-Timey Bubs]] pokes his head out of a grave asking [[Strong Man]] to "please keep it down."
*In [[Decemberween Short Shorts]], [[Rumble Red]] is beheaded by [[Old-Timey Marzipan|Old-Timey Marzipan's]] [[Old-Timey Marzipan's Contraption|machine]], which she gave to him as a [[Decemberween]] present.
*Also During the Old-Timey portion of Decemberween Short Shorts, [[The Homestar Runner]] is forming a pile of dead rats.
*[[Sickly Sam]] buries himself alive on Tuesdays, and has numerous traits of an undead being, including a partially exposed skeleton.
*In [[Malloween Commercial]], [[Mr. Shmallow]]'s grave is seen in one scene.

===[[Pom Pom]]===
*In the Strong Bad Email [[pom pom]], Kevin wonders what would happen to Pom Pom if he was poked with a pin. Strong Bad decides to try this, except that he would also be blindfolded and Pom Pom would be set on fire with the [[BMW Lighter]]. He believes that Pom Pom exploded in "a big fiery ball that was visible from space", when in reality he got a "severe pummeling" by Pom Pom. He even wrote [[General and Fraulein Pom Pom|Pom Pom's parents]] a letter of condolence.
*In [[Where's The Cheat?]], Strong Bad calls [[Marzipan]] and pretends to be [[Homestar Runner]], and he tells her that he got mad and killed Pom Pom.
*Pom Pom's ghost flies out of his grave on [[Main Page 7]].

===[[Pom Pom's Girls]]===
*In [[Homestarloween Party]], they are zapped by the Visor Robot.

===[[Rather Dashing]]===
*Rather Dashing can die in a variety of ways throughout ''[[Peasant's Quest]]''. The most noteworthy of these is when he gets burninated by [[Trogdor]] at the end of the game.

===[[The Sad Kids]]===
*In [[Homestarloween Party]], they are crushed by the short-circuited Visor Robot, and none of them live.

===[[Señor]] and [[Mr. Bland]]===
*The [[Strumstar Hammer]] Easter Egg from [[kids' book]] writes that Señor died after the grapes squished him.
*According to the email [[origins]], they were by far the most popular characters until they were crushed by a falling [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. However, they manage to reappear in [[Strongest Man in the World]].

===[[sloshy]]===
*In a [[Limozeen: "but they're in space!"]] cartoon from [[Limozeen vs. Sloshy]], the band and their tour bus are destroyed by [[Limozeen]].

===[[Strong Bad]]===
*Strong Bad is in heaven on [[Main Page 6]] and he rises from his grave on [[Main Page 7]].
*Strong Bad's grave is seen at the end of [[replacement]].
*In the email [[time capsule]], an emailer asks Strong Bad how he can be "soooo awesome" if he's dead, and requests that he make a [[The Time Capsule|time capsule]].
*In [[Biz Cas Fri 1]] and [[bike thief]], Strong Bad proclaims he would "rather die" than do the things Strong Sad and Homestar request.
*The Strong Bad Email [[your funeral]] consists entirely of Strong Bad imagining what his funeral would be like.
*An egg in the likeness of Strong Bad's head smashes in [[Eggs (toon)|Eggs]].
*In [[winter pool]], Strong Bad almost suffocates while inside a pool of red gelatin.

===[[Strong Sad]]===
*[[In Search of the Yello Dello Commentary]] — Strong Sad reveals that he ''himself'' dreams of his own death (over and over and over...).
*[[A Folky Tale]] — Strong Sad "faints", making [[Coach Z]] believe he killed him.
*Email [[caffeine]] — Strong Bad concludes that his "test subject" is dead (which Strong Sad immediately denies).
*Email [[impression]] — In complimenting The Cheat's costume, Coach Z says "It's as if Strong Sad was still alive and with us today!"
*Email [[fingers]] — As Strong Bad imagines what it would be like if he used fake fingers, the viewer can see a dead Strong Sad behind the couch in one scene. Also during this sequence, two Easter eggs show Strong Sad stuffed inside a [[Coach Z's Locker Room|locker]] and a [[soapbox]].
*Email [[personal favorites]] — Strong Bad types "I swear on Strong Sad's grave" in the unaired email "[[Tape Leg]] 2".
*[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] — A picture on the first screen shows The Cheat serving Strong Bad a platter with Strong Sad's head on it.
*Email [[retirement]] — "Strong Sad's ghost" and "Strong Sad's corpse" are among the entries in Strong Bad's Cloud Shape Spotting Log, as seen in an Easter egg.
*[[Decemberween Short Shorts]] — Strong Sad's ornament falls to the ground and breaks into several pieces.
*Email [[unnatural]] — Strong Sad paints a picture with the word "Death" on a bar of soap.

===[[Teen Girl Squad]]===
*The main characters in Teen Girl Squad are killed off nearly every episode in a variety of ways, yet they always come back alive in the next issue, and sometimes later in the same issue, as seen with [[Cheerleader]] in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]].
*In an Easter egg of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]], [[What's Her Face]] suggests killing someone off for their tenth [[Teen Girl Squad]] issue.

===[[The Cheat]]===
*The Cheat has his own song, [[The Cheat is Not Dead]].
*In the Strong Bad email [[bedtime story]], The Cheat's vitals are tested after being [[Roach Killa!|bug-bombed]] in order to go to sleep. Strong Bad also says "If we're lucky, the Cheat will wake up alive the next morning".
*In [[Date Nite]], Strong Bad suggests drowning [[Marzipan]] and The Cheat.

===[[Videlectrix Mascot]]===
*At the beginning of [[Peasant's Quest]], when the Videlectrix logo is shown, the mascot runs in with a sword, then trips and impales himself on it.
*At the beginning of [[Where's an Egg?]], when the Videlectrix logo is shown, the mascot shoots the logo with a [[gun]], but the bullet ricochets back and kills him.

===[[Visor Robot]]===
*In [[Homestarloween Party]], memories of his stolen life move him to tears and short out his circuits.

===The [[Where's an Egg?]] Detective===
*If the detective fails to find the [[egg]], he is exiled to Siberia and the game ends with him turning into a skeleton.

===[[The Yello Dello]]===
*During the mountain scene in the [[In Search of the Yello Dello New Version|new version]], [[Pom Pom]] aims his gun at the Yello Dello, but throws it away when Homestar says he wants to "take her alive."

===[[Items#Strong Bad's Computers|Strong Bad's Computers]]===
*Strong Bad's computers often meet with untimely demises, as seen in [[gimmicks]], [[virus]], and [[Biz Cas Fri 3]]. The [[Tandy 400]] returned in ghost form in [[ghosts]], and both the [[Compy 386]] and the Tandy appeared in ghost form after Strong Bad destroyed them in [[retirement]].

===[[Items#The Paper|The Paper]]===
*[[The Paper]] died in the [[the paper|eponymous]] email. After its printer broke, Strong Bad was forced to apply a mercy killing with the [[BMW Lighter]].

==See Also==
*[[Grim Reaper]]
*[[Skulls]]
*[[Strong Bad and Strong Sad's Relationship#Strong Bad Hurting Strong Sad|Strong Bad Hurting Strong Sad]]
*[[Strong Sad's Severed Head]]
*[[The Cheat's Head Exploding]]
*[[Heaven]]
*[[Hell]]

[[Category:Prank running gags]]

Death

2008-01-21T23:25:05Z

Dynamite: /* The Goblin */

[[Image:Sbemail 168.png|thumb|"Oh, he looks so peaceful."]]
There are numerous references to the subject of '''death'''. These range from a [[character]]'s death or near-death, to imagining or behaving as though a character has died. As in many cartoons, when a character dies, the death is usually impermanent — the character may reappear alive, often with no explanation.

==Appearances==
===[[Bad Graphics Ghost]]===
*In an [[Easter egg]] in the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[ghosts]], it is possible to "kill" the Bad Graphics Ghost by erasing the pixels.

===[[Bubs]]===
*In the Strong Bad Email [[pom pom]], Bubs mentions having "almost died the 15th time."
*In [[Sample of Style]], [[Mike Chapman]] rips the cardboard tube that "produces" Bubs's voice. [[Matt Chapman]] says that they will have to kill off Bubs, "just like [[Homeschool Winner]]". A picture of Bubs's grave then appears.
*In the Strong Bad Email [[unnatural]], Strong Bad frequently suggests that they kill the rampaging [[King Bubsgonzola Supreme]].

===[[Cheat Commandos]]===
*In the original [[Cheat Commandos (toon)|commercial]], [[Firebert]] is shown killing two [[Blue Laser Minions]] by blowing up a cliff above them, sending rocks crashing down on top of them. ([[Coach Z]] similarly "kills" five Blue Laser Minion action figures by using [[Reinforcements]]' [[Justice Rocket Backpack Rocket Rocket]] to send a [[pie]] plate crashing down on them.)
*In [[Shopping for Danger]], [[Crackotage]] remarks that [[Reynold]] would "prob'ly die" if he went on a mission with the rest of them, later heading back to base "to make sure Reynold isn't dead".
*In [[Commandos in the Classroom]], two Blue Laser Minions are just about to shoot [[Fightgar]] when we cut away from them.
*In [[Let us give TANKS!]], all of the main Commandos (except [[Reynold]]) are ostensibly killed in a nuclear explosion at the [[Blue Laser Cottage]], along with the [[Blue Laser Commander]] and at least two [[Blue Laser Minions]].
**In the same toon, the commander of the [[Green Helmets]] asks [[Gunhaver]] for air support in a battle because of the "heavy losses" they're suffering.
***Also in the same toon, [[Fightgar]] threatens to shoot the Blue Lasers with "bullet-shooting guns" (but it turns out he was just kidding).
* In [[Blue Laserdisc Challenge]], there are several different ways for the [[Blue Laser Commander]] to die if you choose incorrectly, such as being eaten by a monster or cut in half by a bladed pendulum.

===[[Frank Bennedetto]]===
*In the Strong Bad Email [[army]], Frank Bennedetto "dies", after being kicked by Strong Bad. He is later seen alive in [[Labor Dabor]].
**In the email [[more armies]], a memorial statue for Frank Bennedetto is seen. This may mean either that his death was real, or that his service in the Homestarmy was worthy of commemoration.

===[[Homestar Runner]]===
*In the Strong Bad Email [[the show]], Homestar says, "But it turned out I didn't die."
*In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 2.0]], Strong Bad as "[[Aliases Used in Prank Calls|Detective Everybody]]" said Homestar was shot 37 times for being too stupid.
*Homestar is in [[Heaven]] on [[Main Page 6]] and is seen in a zombie-like form on [[Main Page 7]].
*In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]], Homestar calls to say he is sinking in quicksand, and says that if Marzipan helps, he would be "really, really still alive."
*In [[the movies]], Strong Bad instructs Homestar to die before firing his bazooka at him.
*In [[winter pool]], Homestar instructs Strong Bad to preserve his body in red jello when he dies.

===[[Homsar]]===
*In the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[homsar]], [[Strong Bad]] "kills" him with the [[Heavy Lourde]] at the request of Vinnie C. Although [[The Brothers Chaps]] intended at first for him to be killed, he was later revealed to be alive but seriously injured in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]]. The Heavy Lourde is dropped on him again on the [[Homsar Main Page]].
*In the Strong Bad Email [[origins]], he and [[Marzipan]] are glued together and "left for dead" at [[The Stick]], even though neither one actually dies.
*In [[cliffhangers]], Strong Bad drops [[Homsar]] and [[The King of Town]] off a [[cliff]].

===[[Kerrek]]===
*In [[interview]], an Easter egg shows him after being "smote" by [[Trogdor]].
*In the game [[TROGDOR!]], when you reach the level 50 interlude, Kerrek is burninated by Trogdor.
*In [[Peasant's Quest]], he is slain by Rather Dashing with his bow and arrow.

===[[The King of Town]]===
*In [[Halloween Fairstival]], after seeing an X-ray of the King's heart, Strong Bad is content to "let the King die in peace."
*In [[cliffhangers]], the King is dropped from a cliff, along with [[Homsar]].
*In [[original]], Strong Bad suggests that the King has died twelve times, each time replaced with a new actor, at least one of which may have been an onion. It should be noted that Marzipan later confirms that Strong Bad "just made all that stuff up", even though an Easter egg shows a graveyard populated solely by Kings of Town I-XII.

===[[Marzipan]]===
*In the Strong Bad Email [[origins]], Marzipan and [[Homsar]] are glued together and "left for dead" at [[The Stick]], even though neither one actually dies. [[Strong Bad]] later comments on Marzipan's "considerable resistance to death".
*In [[Date Nite]], [[Strong Bad]] suggests drowning Marzipan and [[The Cheat]].

===[[Multi-Function Dragon]]===
*In [[KOT's VOQPCS!]], the Dragon is killed when speared by [[The Knight]] in the "instant death" section of his chest.

===[[Old-Timey]]===
*In [[Parsnips A-Plenty]], [[Old-Timey Strong Bad]] falls off a cliff. He is later revealed to be in [[Hell]] in an Easter egg.
*In [[That A Ghost]], all of the [[Characters#Old-Timey|main characters]] are reduced to skeletons, and [[Old-Timey Bubs]] pokes his head out of a grave asking [[Strong Man]] to "please keep it down."
*[[Rumble Red]] is beheaded by [[Old-Timey Marzipan|Old-Timey Marzipan's]] [[Old-Timey Marzipan's Contraption|machine]], which she gave to him as a [[Decemberween]] present.
*During the Old-Timey portion of [[Decemberween Short Shorts]], [[The Homestar Runner]] is forming a pile of dead rats.
*[[Sickly Sam]] buries himself alive on Tuesdays, and has numerous traits of an undead being, including a partially exposed skeleton.
*In [[Malloween Commercial]], [[Mr. Shmallow]]'s grave is seen in one scene.

===[[Pom Pom]]===
*In the Strong Bad Email [[pom pom]], Kevin wonders what would happen to Pom Pom if he was poked with a pin. Strong Bad decides to try this, except that he would also be blindfolded and Pom Pom would be set on fire with the [[BMW Lighter]]. He believes that Pom Pom exploded in "a big fiery ball that was visible from space", when in reality he got a "severe pummeling" by Pom Pom. He even wrote [[General and Fraulein Pom Pom|Pom Pom's parents]] a letter of condolence.
*In [[Where's The Cheat?]], Strong Bad calls [[Marzipan]] and pretends to be [[Homestar Runner]], and he tells her that he got mad and killed Pom Pom.
*Pom Pom's ghost flies out of his grave on [[Main Page 7]].

===[[Pom Pom's Girls]]===
*In [[Homestarloween Party]], they are zapped by the Visor Robot.

===[[Rather Dashing]]===
*Rather Dashing can die in a variety of ways throughout ''[[Peasant's Quest]]''. The most noteworthy of these is when he gets burninated by [[Trogdor]] at the end of the game.

===[[The Sad Kids]]===
*In [[Homestarloween Party]], they are crushed by the short-circuited Visor Robot, and none of them live.

===[[Señor]] and [[Mr. Bland]]===
*The [[Strumstar Hammer]] Easter Egg from [[kids' book]] writes that Señor died after the grapes squished him.
*According to the email [[origins]], they were by far the most popular characters until they were crushed by a falling [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. However, they manage to reappear in [[Strongest Man in the World]].

===[[sloshy]]===
*In a [[Limozeen: "but they're in space!"]] cartoon from [[Limozeen vs. Sloshy]], the band and their tour bus are destroyed by [[Limozeen]].

===[[Strong Bad]]===
*Strong Bad is in heaven on [[Main Page 6]] and he rises from his grave on [[Main Page 7]].
*Strong Bad's grave is seen at the end of [[replacement]].
*In the email [[time capsule]], an emailer asks Strong Bad how he can be "soooo awesome" if he's dead, and requests that he make a [[The Time Capsule|time capsule]].
*In [[Biz Cas Fri 1]] and [[bike thief]], Strong Bad proclaims he would "rather die" than do the things Strong Sad and Homestar request.
*The Strong Bad Email [[your funeral]] consists entirely of Strong Bad imagining what his funeral would be like.
*An egg in the likeness of Strong Bad's head smashes in [[Eggs (toon)|Eggs]].
*In [[winter pool]], Strong Bad almost suffocates while inside a pool of red gelatin.

===[[Strong Sad]]===
*[[In Search of the Yello Dello Commentary]] — Strong Sad reveals that he ''himself'' dreams of his own death (over and over and over...).
*[[A Folky Tale]] — Strong Sad "faints", making [[Coach Z]] believe he killed him.
*Email [[caffeine]] — Strong Bad concludes that his "test subject" is dead (which Strong Sad immediately denies).
*Email [[impression]] — In complimenting The Cheat's costume, Coach Z says "It's as if Strong Sad was still alive and with us today!"
*Email [[fingers]] — As Strong Bad imagines what it would be like if he used fake fingers, the viewer can see a dead Strong Sad behind the couch in one scene. Also during this sequence, two Easter eggs show Strong Sad stuffed inside a [[Coach Z's Locker Room|locker]] and a [[soapbox]].
*Email [[personal favorites]] — Strong Bad types "I swear on Strong Sad's grave" in the unaired email "[[Tape Leg]] 2".
*[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] — A picture on the first screen shows The Cheat serving Strong Bad a platter with Strong Sad's head on it.
*Email [[retirement]] — "Strong Sad's ghost" and "Strong Sad's corpse" are among the entries in Strong Bad's Cloud Shape Spotting Log, as seen in an Easter egg.
*[[Decemberween Short Shorts]] — Strong Sad's ornament falls to the ground and breaks into several pieces.
*Email [[unnatural]] — Strong Sad paints a picture with the word "Death" on a bar of soap.

===[[Teen Girl Squad]]===
*The main characters in Teen Girl Squad are killed off nearly every episode in a variety of ways, yet they always come back alive in the next issue, and sometimes later in the same issue, as seen with [[Cheerleader]] in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]].
*In an Easter egg of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]], [[What's Her Face]] suggests killing someone off for their tenth [[Teen Girl Squad]] issue.

===[[The Cheat]]===
*The Cheat has his own song, [[The Cheat is Not Dead]].
*In the Strong Bad email [[bedtime story]], The Cheat's vitals are tested after being [[Roach Killa!|bug-bombed]] in order to go to sleep. Strong Bad also says "If we're lucky, the Cheat will wake up alive the next morning".
*In [[Date Nite]], Strong Bad suggests drowning [[Marzipan]] and The Cheat.

===[[Videlectrix Mascot]]===
*At the beginning of [[Peasant's Quest]], when the Videlectrix logo is shown, the mascot runs in with a sword, then trips and impales himself on it.
*At the beginning of [[Where's an Egg?]], when the Videlectrix logo is shown, the mascot shoots the logo with a [[gun]], but the bullet ricochets back and kills him.

===[[Visor Robot]]===
*In [[Homestarloween Party]], memories of his stolen life move him to tears and short out his circuits.

===The [[Where's an Egg?]] Detective===
*If the detective fails to find the [[egg]], he is exiled to Siberia and the game ends with him turning into a skeleton.

===[[The Yello Dello]]===
*During the mountain scene in the [[In Search of the Yello Dello New Version|new version]], [[Pom Pom]] aims his gun at the Yello Dello, but throws it away when Homestar says he wants to "take her alive."

===[[Items#Strong Bad's Computers|Strong Bad's Computers]]===
*Strong Bad's computers often meet with untimely demises, as seen in [[gimmicks]], [[virus]], and [[Biz Cas Fri 3]]. The [[Tandy 400]] returned in ghost form in [[ghosts]], and both the [[Compy 386]] and the Tandy appeared in ghost form after Strong Bad destroyed them in [[retirement]].

===[[Items#The Paper|The Paper]]===
*[[The Paper]] died in the [[the paper|eponymous]] email. After its printer broke, Strong Bad was forced to apply a mercy killing with the [[BMW Lighter]].

==See Also==
*[[Grim Reaper]]
*[[Skulls]]
*[[Strong Bad and Strong Sad's Relationship#Strong Bad Hurting Strong Sad|Strong Bad Hurting Strong Sad]]
*[[Strong Sad's Severed Head]]
*[[The Cheat's Head Exploding]]
*[[Heaven]]
*[[Hell]]

[[Category:Prank running gags]]

The Li'l Brudder Show

2008-01-21T23:17:15Z

Dynamite: /* Remarks */

{{toonnav|Shorts|lilbrudder|Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer|TrogdorCon '97}}
[[Image:The Lil Brudder Show.png|200px|thumb|The Li'l Brudder and Maybe Tendafoot Too Show!]]

The opening to "The Li'l Brudder and Maybe Tendafoot Too Show," featuring everyone's favorite one legged pup.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Li'l Brudder]], [[Tendafoot]], [[The Dregs#Possum|Possum]], [[The Dregs#Parrot|Parrot]], {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[The Junkyard]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Race Track]]

'''Date:''' Monday, April 18, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 2:00

'''Page Title:''' Things Are Lookin' Up!

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 1}}

==Transcript ==
''{A notebook page with Li'l Brudder drawn on it is laying on a table with a pencil. The screen pans out, and then Li'l Brudder suddenly glows rainbow colors as stars fly out of the page. He jumps off of the page, lands on a sidewalk and drools.}''

'''SINGERS:''' Here comes Li'l Brudder!

''{Li'l Brudder's leg wobbles and collapses. Cut to a front of the Family Italian Food Place. Li'l Brudder is scraping toward the open door. When he gets close, the door closes with a sign reading "CLOSED" on it. Then the sign spins around to reveal the words, "4 LEGS ONLY."}''

'''SINGERS:''' He can make it on his own!

''{Cut to a kitchen with a bowl of dog food labeled "li'l brudder" and Li'l Brudder nearby. Li'l Brudder scrapes up to the dog food bowl and pushes it with his face.}''

'''SINGERS:''' He'll scrape right along, while I'm singing this song.

''{Cut to Li'l Brudder falling through the sky while wearing a parachute pack and goggles.}''

'''SINGERS:''' You know he was born to ramble and roam!

''{Cut to two oval-shaped pictures hanging on a wall. The one on the left is a picture of a dog and reads, "MAW," while the one of the right is a picture of a unicycle and reads, "PAW." The screen slowly pans out to reveal Li'l Brudder looking at the pictures sadly.}''

'''SINGERS:''' Here comes Li'l Brudder.

''{Cut to a white silhouette of Li'L Brudder scraping along in front of the words, "One Leg!!" The sun behind them is casting moving shadows.}''

'''SINGERS:''' He's got one leg up on life!

''{Cut to a trophy with the words "Just One" inscribed. Li'l Brudder and his leg pops out.}''

'''SINGERS:''' (Just one!) (That's right!)

''{Cut to Li'l Brudder in a junkyard with Tendafoot, a possum with a human nose for a face, and a wobbling parrot whose legs are missing and has his bottom wrapped up.}''

'''SINGERS:''' He's the king of the dregs, with minus...

''{Cut to Li'l Brudder on a football field a football helmet and a shirt that reads, "-3." He is balancing a football under his chin. The football squeezes out and rolls away, causing him to fall down.}''

'''SINGERS:''' ...three legs. And he'll probably...

''{Cut to Li'l Brudder wearing a party hat in a gray area with two pairs of girl legs behind him. Li'l Brudder is happy and winks. One of the girls moves her legs and trips Li'l Brudder, making him sad and drool.}''

'''SINGERS:''' ...never take him a wife!

''{Cut to Li'l Brudder surfing a giant wave, his leg wobbling.}''

'''SINGERS:''' Here comes Li'l Brudder! He's gotta...

''{Cut to Li'l Brudder on a pirate ship's plank. A sword pokes him from behind.}''

'''SINGERS:''' ...pocket full of...

''{Cut to a close up of Li'l Brudder's face next to his food bowl. He stretches out his tongue, but can't reach his food.}''

'''SINGERS:''' ...cash! He can...

''{Cut to Li'l Brudder scraping along on a tall, scrolling version of his name spelled "Lil' Brudder" . Unable to move fast enough, he flies off the edge, flips around and lands on the ground.}''

'''SINGERS:''' ...barely stand up, your favorite one-legged pup. He'll do a...

''{Cut to Li'l Brudder scraping along on a running track at sunset, approaching the finish line.}''

'''SINGERS:''' ...twenty minute hundred yard dash.

''{Cut to Li'l Brudder scraping toward the logo of his show, which comes down from the top.}''

'''SINGERS:''' Li'l Brudder! Li'l Brudder! And maybe Tendafoot, too! ''{They pronounce Tendafoot "Tenderfoot".}''

''{A circle with Tendafoot on it appears on screen. Li'l Brudder falls down.}''

'''LI'L BRUDDER:''' I can make it on my own!

''{Camera pans out to show the whole [[Telebision]].}''

'''NARRATOR:''' It's the "Li'l Brudder and Maybe Tendafoot, Too" show! ''{Also pronounces Tendafoot "Tenderfoot".}''

''{Camera flips around to show Strong Bad and The Cheat sleeping on the couch in their basement.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{snoring like [[Wikipedia:Curly Joe DeRita|"Curly Joe" DeRita]]}'' Mmm-Memmmmm...

''{Suddenly Homestar Runner jumps out from behind the couch and flies into the air, crying.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{crying uncontrollably}'' Oh-ho-ho-hooooooooo!

''{Homestar falls back down, creating a thump that moves Strong Bad's and The Cheat's limbs a little. About a second later he flies back up.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{crying}'' Li'l Brudd-or-or-ooor!

''{Homestar falls down, thumps, and then jumps back up with his legs crossed.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{crying}'' Blah-ah-ah! Blah! Blah! Blah! Blaaah!

''{Homestar falls back down, making a thump again, moving Strong Bad and The Cheat. Then he stands up behind the couch.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{crying}'' I couldn't be happier with your network debut!

''{Homestar sinks behind the couch. Then he pops up again and moves across the couch.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{crying}'' Wah!

''{Homestar sinks out of sight and then pops up again on the other side of the couch.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{crying}'' This is your most ambitious album to date!

''{Homestar sinks below the couch again. Then he flies out from behind the couch one last time, waving his legs.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{crying}'' Blah! Blah! Blah! Brud-dor-or-or!

''{Homestar crashes into the ground once more.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{mumbling}'' ActRaiser. ''{wakes up}'' What?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{wakes up}'' Uuuuuuuhh...

'''STRONG BAD:''' Nnnnn... you guys hear something?

'''THE CHEAT:''' Meeenh.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{sticks leg up from behind the couch}'' Nope!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Cool.

''{The Cheat and Strong Bad instantly fall back asleep and Strong Bad snores loudly. After a few seconds, a circle with Li'l Brudder appears on screen.}''

'''LI'L BRUDDER:''' Things are looking up!

''{Everything besides Li'L Brudder and his circle fades to black and the toon ends.}''

==Easter Eggs ==
* At the end of the cartoon, click on Li'l Brudder to view dialogue with Li'l Brudder and Tendafoot.
:''{Cut to the junkyard with Li'l Brudder and his three friends.}''
:'''LI'L BRUDDER:''' Well, we got 'em where we want 'em now! I can't tell you how happy I am for you to be with me! Let's... trace! Let's trace some drawings!
:'''TENDAFOOT:''' Oh, Piddles. Wait, is your name Piddles?
:''{The legless parrot falls over with a thwack.}''

==Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*This is the first time we see Strong Bad's eyes while he's sleeping.
*Since it takes Li'l Brudder 20 minutes to complete the 100yd dash, he travels an average of 0.17 mph, or 3 inches per second -- about the speed of a giant tortoise.

===Remarks===
*The basement ceiling in this cartoon is much higher than in previous cartoons. For example, Homestar is able to stand on Strong Mad's head through the ceiling in [[HR:sbsample.swf|email preview]] on [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] However, in [[couch patch]], the ceiling seems just as high as it is in this toon.
*At the beginning, the lines farther back on the notebook paper appear the same size as the ones closer up.
*This short was released on The Cheat's [[cheatday]] (as his fake ID tells us).
*When Homestar Runner remarks "This is your most ambitious album to date!", it goes along with his 'network debut' comment as one of those meaningless, silly praises often heard for media outlets.
*Apparently, no humans are allowed in the "Family Italian Food Place". Unless that human has 2 extra legs.
*Homestar must be a terrific athlete if he can jump that high from kneeling (or lying?) behind a couch.
*The singers and narrator pronounce Tendafoot's name as "Tenderfoot," as did Strong Bad when he first introduced Tendafoot in [[crying]]. His name is always pronounced this way.
*Lil' Brudder's leg appears to be on the side closest to the viewer no matter which way he's turned. This is only possible in reality if somehow, his leg had the ability to move from side to side.

===Goofs===
*When Li'l Brudder tries to lick his dog food, his reflection doesn't move at all.

===Inside References===
*Li'l Brudder is a character shown in the email "[[crying]]" that was created by Strong Bad solely to make Homestar Runner cry. Tendafoot was shown off in the same email and was used to show Strong Bad's view of [[Strong Sad]]. Li'l Brudder on a football field dressed as a quarterback is also a reference to the email "crying." On it, Strong Bad as Li'l Brudder told The Cheat "I'm gonna be a quarterback when I grow up."
*This is another instance of Strong Bad's [[couch mumbling]].
*The page title "Things Are Lookin' Up!" was also used in [[Sketchbook 2004#SK-2004-12-09|an early sketch of Li'l Brudder]].
*When Homestar jumps up from behind the couch with his legs crossed, his position is similar to the pose he makes on the final page of the [[Original Book]].
**This position is later seen in [[Strongest Man in the World]].
*Most of The Dregs are [[Severed Body Parts|missing body parts]].

===Real-World References===
*''[[Wikipedia:ActRaiser|ActRaiser]]'' was a game for the [[Nintendo#Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES)|Super NES]] by Enix and Quintet.
*The hole in Lil' Brudder's tooth is possibly based on ''[[Wikipedia:Courage the Cowardly Dog|Courage the Cowardly Dog]]'', a television show featured on Cartoon Network.
*The sound at the beginning when Lil' Brudder is coming out of the paper as well as the rainbow surrounding Lil' Brudder is reminiscent of that of the popular children's show ''[[Wikipedia:Barney and Friends|Barney and Friends]]'', in which a stuffed animal would come to life as the famed purple dinosaur.
*From the looks of the bandages and how it rocks back and forth, the parrot is a reference to the "baby" from the movie [[Wikipedia:Eraserhead|Eraserhead]].
*The line "and maybe Tendafoot, too" refers to various cartoons in which the secondary character wouldn't be mentioned until the very end of the theme song. Examples include [http://www.wingnuttoons.com/ToucheTurtle.html Touché Turtle and Dum Dum] and [http://www.wingnuttoons.com/LippyHardy.html Lippy the Lion and Hardy Har Har].
*Lil' Brudder scraping along the top of the words "Lil' Brudder" is reminiscent of the opening sequence of [[Wikipedia:SpongeBob SquarePants|SpongeBob SquarePants]], a popular cartoon on [[Nickelodeon]].
*The Cheat snores exactly like [[Wikipedia:Curly Joe DeRita|"Curly Joe" DeRita]], best known as one of the [[Wikipedia:Three Stooges|Three Stooges]].

== External Links ==
* [[HR:lilbrudder.html|watch "The Lil' Brudder Show"]]
* [[HR:lilbrudder.swf|view the Flash file for "The Lil' Brudder Show"]]
* [[Forum:2781|forum thread re: "The Li'l Brudder Show"]]

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[[Category:Shorts|Li'l Brudder Show, The]]
[[Category:TV Shows|Li'l Brudder Show, The]]
[[Category:Strong Bad Email Spin-offs]]

Summer Short Shorts

2008-01-21T23:05:22Z

Dynamite: /* Inside References */

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[[Image:Short Shorts.png|thumb|Those shorts are indeed short]]
Homestar and pals star in a series of short shorts.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, [[Powered by The Cheat Character Variations#Caveman Homestar Runner|Caveman Homestar Runner]], [[Powered by The Cheat Character Variations#Cavewoman Marzipan|Cavewoman Marzipan]], [[Powered by The Cheat Character Variations#Pterodactyl Coach Z|Pterodactyl Coach Z]], [[Powered by The Cheat Character Variations#Caveman Strong Bad|Caveman Strong Bad]], [[Powered by The Cheat Character Variations#The Cheatsaurus|The Cheatsaurus]], {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Limozeen}}, [[Very, Very Little Girl]] (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]], Prehistoric Lands, [[The Field]], [[Strong Badia]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], Laser Show, [[The Bar]]

'''Date:''' Tuesday, July 25, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 2:52

'''Page Title:''' Dare to Bare!

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 3}}

==Transcript==
''{The toon opens with the title "Summer Short Shorts" on a photo of blue shorts. The title slowly comes towards the camera. Music plays. Cut to Marshmallow's Last Stand. The camera pans across the table, which is littered with french fries and ketchup.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' C'mon, The Cheat! You can do one more! Just one more!

''{the camera zooms out, showing The Cheat sitting opposite Strong Bad at the table, with Strong Mad behind Strong Bad. The Cheat's mouth is crammed full of fries, he has purple bags under his eyes, and is whimpering}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{pops up near The Cheat, wearing a brown hat with a press pass}'' ''{speaking quickly}'' Oh, have you heard the latest news? ''{sits back down}'' I heard the latest news, it was that you could do one more! One more!

''{The Cheat whimpers and spits three fries onto the table}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strong Mad, tell your girlfriend to do one more.

'''STRONG MAD:''' SHE'S GONNA BLOW!!

''{Homestar Runner runs up, dressed as a waiter, with a brown cap that says 'egg.' on it}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Aaaaaaand can I get you gentlemen anything else?

''{Homestar holds up a red clown shoe, and a large daisy rises from inside it}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Boodiiiing!

''{cut back to the title screen}''

''{cut to a Powered by The Cheat landscape, showing a volcano and the caption "The Millionzoic Era". Cut to a scene showing a prehistoric Marzipan and Homestar, with a tar pit next to them}''

'''PBTC CAVEMAN HOMESTAR:''' ''{spits green bubbles while he talks}'' Ooga, ooga. My breath, it stinks.

'''PBTC CAVEWOMAN MARZIPAN:''' ''{turns to the left, away from Homestar}'' Uh-huh!

'''PBTC CAVEMAN HOMESTAR:''' Real, real bad!

''{A pterodactyl with Coach Z's hat flies in from the right}''

'''PBTC COACH Z DACTYL:''' I look at the fly! ''{flies off to the left}''

''{A caveman Strong Bad enters from the mountains. He lands in the tar pit, which splashes Homestar and turns into a skull, which sticks to Homestar. As Strong Bad sinks to the bottom of the tar pit, his feet can be seen poking out from underneath.}''

'''PBTC CAVEMAN STRONG BAD:''' Ooga. Me want set the face on fires.

'''PBTC CAVEMAN HOMESTAR:''' What's fire?

'''PBTC CAVEWOMAN MARZIPAN:''' It sounds fun! Oo-ga! ''{jumps}''

''{A large The Cheat-like dinosaur runs by from the right. It then clamps its mouth around the volcano and begins "drinking" from it, accompanied by glugging noises. The Cheatsaurus then turns and breathes fire over the group, scorching them. Marzipan turns into a drumstick with its tongue sticking out, Homestar into a smiling steak with a gold tooth, and Strong Bad merely blackens}''

'''PBTC CAVEMAN MARZIPAN AND HOMESTAR:''' Aaaah!

'''PBTC CAVEMAN STRONG BAD:''' Oh, me too! ''{turns into a dish with a lobster tail on it}'' I am not exempt!

'''PBTC COACH Z DACTYL:''' ''{pokes head in}'' Hey, did you see that? The Cheatsaurus can do it again!

''{cut back to the title screen}''

''{open with a few shots of leaves, then focus in on Pom Pom's head. He opens his eyes, then leaps out of a bush and jumps upwards. He does a brief pose before falling back down again. He lands on a tree branch, then begins to leap forward from branch to branch. He lands on the ground, and pops a bo staff out of himself. He twirls the staff as pictures of bamboo and a wave appear behind him. He then jumps up. Cut to a long shot of him arcing over Strong Badia and Bubs' Concession Stand. He then lands lightly next to Coach Z. He pops out a deodorant stick out of himself, and tosses it to Coach Z.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Thanks for the smell-cakes, Pom Pom! But next time could you dispense with all the flyin' whozits?!

''{Pom Pom pulls out a small smoke bomb and throws it on the ground in front of him. When the smoke clears, Pom Pom has vanished}''

''{cut back to the title screen}''
<div id="Brain_Sister">
''{cut to a black screen, while red and green lasers arc from the top and bottom of the screen. Guitar music begins, while the Limozeen logo appears in bright yellow. The logo splits, and an image of Larry appears. It changes color, as a pair of feminine legs in fishnet walk by. Three images of Larry playing guitar appear, which meld into one of him leaping into a power chord. The words "BRAIN SISTER" rise from the bottom as Larry jumps offscreen. A calculator displaying 3.14 appears, and an outline of Texas draws itself around it. Several images of a brain, Larry, guitars, and the ZEEN part of the logo flash past in front of a crowd, until Larry zooms forward, surrounded by stars and playing guitar. More images of Larry's head flash in front of the crowd, as the lasers start again. The calculator flashes by, and the legs walk out, with a brain perched on top of them. They walk by a Limozeen amp as the song ends. The Limozeen logo flashes briefly}''

'''LARRY PALARONCINI:''' ''{singing}''
:Well, she was only twenty-seventeen.
:She was a low res beauty queen.
:She was a brain... brain... brain sister!
:Texas Instruments all day!
:And she remembers how they used to duet,
:And she remembers how they used to duet!
:Th'all think you know what I mean!

'''LARRY PALARONCINI:''' Yeah! Those do all right! Uh!
</div>
''{cut back to the title screen}''

''{open in a barroom-type scene. Homestar and Pom Pom are seated at the bar. Both have an 'old one bottle, and there is a bowl of peanuts on the table}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Seriously, Pom Pom. ''{gesturing with bottle}'' You and me, we're like two breads in a biscuit. ''{pokes the bottle in Pom Pom's face}'' Two breads in a biscuit! I'm gonna make a T-shirt! ''{leans in close}'' No, wait! You and me? ''{crouches to look at peanuts}'' We're like this bowl of mayonnaise here. ''{points at Pom Pom with the bottle}'' You're the bowl, 'cuz you're a big, round, fat guy. ''{Pom Pom looks angry. Homestar sits up again, now pointing at himself with the bottle}'' And I'm the mayonnaise, 'cuz I'm smart as peanuts. That'll make a good T-shirt too. Oop, no, wait! Before you strangle me again... You and me? ''{pulls the napkin out from under his bottle}'' Soggy napkin. ''{as Homestar says "Soggy", Pom Pom gets an unimpressed look on his face.}''

''{cut to the picture of the shorts from the title screen, which now just reads "End."}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on the dartboard while Homestar says, "I'm gonna make a T-shirt" to see a [[T-shirt]] with a slice of bread + a slice of bread = a biscuit.
*Click on the dartboard again while Homestar says, "That'll make a good T-shirt too" to see a T-shirt with a bowl of [[mayonnaise]] and the words "Smart as Peanuts!"
[[Image:Very Very Little Girl.jpg|thumb|"You've got no interest in the crazy man over here, do you?"]]
*Click on the "n" in "End" to see a [[Puppet Stuff]] short.
:''{The title "Homestar vs. Very, Very Little Girl" appears. Scene opens to reveal the very, very little girl is swinging and Homestar is standing next to the swing.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh hello, very, very little girl. Take it away.
:''{piano flourish, crickets, another piano flourish}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I've got no material with this kid. Say something cute. Talk about picking your nose. You seem like a smart kid. You wanna go out some time?
:''{Music from the Pom Pom short plays. Homestar dances.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You've got no interest in the crazy man over here, do you?
:''{Homestar Runner comes too close to the swing and is hit three times.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' OW! ... OW! ... UH!
:''{The screen goes black and "end." appears on the screen.}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*The Limozeen sequence simulates a [[Lasers|laser show]].
*[[Wikipedia:Image resolution|Low res]] is short for low resolution which refers to an image with a low level of detail.
*The calculator during the Limozeen sequence displays 3.14, which is a common approximation for [[Pi]].

===Trivia===
*At the February 2006 [[Flashforward 2006 Seattle - 28 Feb 2006|Flashforward]], [[Matt Chapman]] mentioned that [[Missy Palmer]] was pregnant—the [[Very, Very Little Girl]] in the Easter egg is perhaps [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] and Missy's baby.
**It was revealed in the DVD commentary that Mike's baby provided the voice of The Cheat in this short.

===Remarks===
[[Image:Freecountry silhouette.png|thumb|The layout of the land, err.. Free Country in silhouette form.]]
*The PBTC Coach Z Dactyl has a voice similar to the PBTC Coach Z, but when he says "Cheatsaurus", he pronounces it correctly rather than saying "Chort".
*After the Coach Z Dactyl flies by for the first time, it remains off camera at the left edge of the animation until just after Caveman Strong Bad splashes tar on Caveman Homestar, at which time the Dactyl pops back into view for a frame or two before disappearing in preparation for its second flight.
*The Pom Pom short reveals that Bubs' Concession Stand abuts Strong Badia, and apparently a lush forest exists beyond that.
*The sky can be seen inside Bubs' Concession Stand during Pom Pom's scene. This would only be possible if one of the walls were missing.
**The email [[the chair]] shows that one of the walls in Bubs' Concession Stand can lower, making this possible.
*Pom Pom shows off his skills with a [[Wikipedia:Bo (weapon)|bo staff]].

===Goofs===
*The french fry on the table loses its reflection after the cut to the wider shot.
*The french fries The Cheat spits out have no reflection.

===Inside References===
[[Image:Barscene anim.gif|thumb|Déjà Vu Anyone?]]
*The same short shorts on the title screen are worn by [[Matt Chapman]] in [[Peasant's Quest Preview]].
*Homestar has an [[egg]] on his hat in the restaurant sequence, which also features the same French fries and bottles of [[Quite Fancy 'Chup]] first seen in [[funny]].
*Millionzoic Homestar says that his breath smells real real bad, which is similar to how he told Strong Bad that his burps smell real bad in [[Sick Day]].
*Millionzoic Homestar turns into a [[steak]] with a [[The Cheat's Gold Tooth|gold tooth]].
*"The ol' Cheatasaurus" is what Strong Bad [[Nicknames|nicknamed]] The Cheat in [[other days]].
*The short in The Millionzoic Era resembles the MS Paint picture Strong Mad sends Strong Bad of a brontosaurus eating bacon and eggs at the end of [[lunch special]].
*The back beat during the Pom Pom short is from [[Theme Song Video]], in which he previously demonstrated his skill in martial arts.
*The animation of Pom Pom's smoke bomb is the same animation of Strong Bad's pants poofing away in [[senior prom]].
*The "guitar stars" featured in the laser show are from [[rock opera]].
*The solar calculator during the Limozeen laser show is similar to the one on the chalkboard in [[technology]], which also displayed [[Pi|3.14]].
*There is a [[LEMKE]] flag on the wall in the bar short.
*Homestar mentions [[bread]] in the bar short.
*The bar short with Homestar and Pom Pom drinking [[Cold One|'old ones]] is almost identical to a scene near the end of the [[Theme Song Video]].
*The flower was also seen in [[She Loves Me!]].
*There is an instance of [[gender confusion]].
*Short shorts were mentioned just a week earlier with Camp Counselor Shortshorts in [[Teen Girl Squad 11]].
*''Millionzoic'' and ''twenty-seventeen'' are [[portmanteaus]].
*The music at the beginning of Homestar vs. Very, Very Little Girl comes from Strong Bad's kids' show in [[for kids]].

===Real-World References===
*Texas circumscribing the calculator and the lyrics of the song are a reference to [[Wikipedia:Texas Instruments|Texas Instruments]], a computer and electronics development company.
*One of the backgrounds of Pom Pom's Bo routine is modeled after the [[Wikipedia:Ukiyo-e|ukiyo-e]] woodblock painting [[Wikipedia:Image:Tsunami by hokusai 19th century.jpg|"The Great Wave Off Kanagawa"]] by [[Wikipedia:Hokusai|Hokusai]].
*The Limozeen lyrics "Well, she was only twenty-seventeen." and "I think you know what I mean!" are references to the lyrics "Well she was just seventeen. You know what I mean." from [[The Beatles]] song "[[Wikipedia:I Saw Her Standing There|I Saw Her Standing There]]". Also, the second line of The Beatles song originally went, "Never been a beauty queen" (or "Not exactly a beauty queen", depending on the source).
*"Dare to Bare!" is a reference to a slogan used by hair-removal product [[Wikipedia:Nair (hair removal)|Nair]], who became famous for their ad jingle where people asked "Who wears short shorts?"
*Homestar performing the magic trick with a flower growing out of a shoe is a reference to the waiter "[[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell#Other main characters|Max]]" from "[[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]]", who was often seen performing magic tricks while serving the students their food.

*Very, Very Little Girl is in a [[Wikipedia:Fisher-Price|Fisher-Price]] B0639 Cradle Swing with the Rubber Ducky pattern.

===Fast Forward===
*More short shorts were produced in [[Decemberween Short Shorts]].

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MIKE:''' Oh, look! That— There's—''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' ''{laughing}'' Don't look! Don't look, actually.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughing}'' There's Matt's shorts and legs.

'''MATT:''' Uh, I kind of don't like the way that the— the... words are getting bigger over... over my—

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' It's unsettling.

'''MATT:''' It's very unsettling.

'''MIKE:''' So The Cheat's noises right there are my daughter when she was about a month old.

'''MATT:''' Yep.

'''MIKE:''' She sounded just like The Cheat with a million marshmallows stuffed in his mouth.

'''MATT:''' Well, it was an inappropriate sound then. ''{pause}'' Uh, this is a Powered by The Cheat section, Mike. ''You'' probably made this.

'''MIKE:''' I— I did make it. The Cheat—

'''MATT:''' What did Coach Z just say there? "Helicopter fly"?

'''MIKE:''' Uh... I—

'''MATT:''' "I look at the fly"?

'''MIKE:''' Uh, "I look at the fly", yeah.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughing}'' "I look at the fly".

'''MIKE:''' I think, basically he's saying, "Look at me, I'm flying."

'''MATT:''' ''{laughing}'' Okay. So not only can The Cheat not do good voices, he can't speak English very well.

'''MIKE:''' Well...

'''MATT:''' Or was it because he's a dinosaur?

'''MIKE:''' It's not his first language.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughing}'' Well, that's true! I like the steak that Homestar turned into.

'''MIKE:''' This is, uh, this is Matt's work.

'''MATT:''' This was fun to make. I was just trying to— I had watched that, uh... what's it called... that really well-animated Flash cartoon where that guy is getting chased by that cloud? He's that goat-faced guy— goat-head guy and he's getting chased by that cloud. I think I had seen the first one of those, I forget which one came first. Kind of inspired me. ''Samurai Jack''-ish, I suppose, too.

'''MIKE:''' Look at that! Strong Badia is in between the forest and Bubs's.

'''MATT:''' Look out, Coach Z! Oh! That's the— That's called "good explosion" in our Flash library. And, uh—

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' It was made for Cheat Commandos, right?

'''MATT:''' Yeah. I based it off of an explosion from and old Galaxy Rangers cartoon, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' Uh... so, if you've ever seen a laser show like this ''recently'', it's not very different from if you saw a laser show like this twenty years ago.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, the laser show at Stone Mountain, uh, has not changed at all.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, I— I hadn't been for maybe 15 years, and we went a couple years ago and it's just amazingly bad as it ever was.

'''MATT:''' Do they still do that part where it looks like Spirographs and they play Axel F from Beverly Hills Cops?

'''MIKE:''' They don't play Axel F. The music changes, but, uh, the lasers are still very— very bad animated bears.

'''MATT:''' Is this Pom Pom's rumpus room?

'''MIKE:''' I think so. Yeah.

'''MATT:''' This is from, uh... the Homestar Runner theme song video. They're hanging out down there, right? Having Cold Ones. And we updated it for this.

'''MIKE:''' That's right.

'''MATT:''' Lemke, Mike. The Lemmer. The Lemmer's been— he's been doing commentary.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, he does the pre- and post-game show on Braves Radio.

'''MATT:''' Yep.

===Fun Facts===
*The "really well-animated Flash cartoon" Matt refers to is ''[http://www.biteycastle.com/theYuyu.html the Yuyu]'' by [[Wikipedia:Adam Phillips (animator)|Adam Phillips]].
*''[[Wikipedia:Samurai Jack|Samurai Jack]]'' is a cartoon known for its highly detailed, outline-free, masking-based animation, as well as for its cinematic style and pacing.

{{sectionstub}}

==External Links==
*[[HR:shortshorts.html|watch "Summer Short Shorts"]]
*[[HR:shortshorts.swf|view the Flash file for "Summer Short Shorts"]]
*[[HR:shortshorts little.swf|view the Flash file for "Homestar vs. Very, Very Little Girl"]]
*[[Forum:9214|forum thread re: "Summer Short Shorts"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|shortshorts}}

[[Category:Shorts]]
[[Category:Powered by The Cheat]]
[[Category:Puppet Stuff]]
[[Category:DVD Commentary]]

Summer Short Shorts

2008-01-21T23:04:37Z

Dynamite: /* Inside References */

{{toonnavfulllink|Shorts|HR:shortshorts.html|Sbemail 150?!?|No Hands On Deck!}}

[[Image:Short Shorts.png|thumb|Those shorts are indeed short]]
Homestar and pals star in a series of short shorts.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, [[Powered by The Cheat Character Variations#Caveman Homestar Runner|Caveman Homestar Runner]], [[Powered by The Cheat Character Variations#Cavewoman Marzipan|Cavewoman Marzipan]], [[Powered by The Cheat Character Variations#Pterodactyl Coach Z|Pterodactyl Coach Z]], [[Powered by The Cheat Character Variations#Caveman Strong Bad|Caveman Strong Bad]], [[Powered by The Cheat Character Variations#The Cheatsaurus|The Cheatsaurus]], {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Limozeen}}, [[Very, Very Little Girl]] (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]], Prehistoric Lands, [[The Field]], [[Strong Badia]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], Laser Show, [[The Bar]]

'''Date:''' Tuesday, July 25, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 2:52

'''Page Title:''' Dare to Bare!

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 3}}

==Transcript==
''{The toon opens with the title "Summer Short Shorts" on a photo of blue shorts. The title slowly comes towards the camera. Music plays. Cut to Marshmallow's Last Stand. The camera pans across the table, which is littered with french fries and ketchup.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' C'mon, The Cheat! You can do one more! Just one more!

''{the camera zooms out, showing The Cheat sitting opposite Strong Bad at the table, with Strong Mad behind Strong Bad. The Cheat's mouth is crammed full of fries, he has purple bags under his eyes, and is whimpering}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{pops up near The Cheat, wearing a brown hat with a press pass}'' ''{speaking quickly}'' Oh, have you heard the latest news? ''{sits back down}'' I heard the latest news, it was that you could do one more! One more!

''{The Cheat whimpers and spits three fries onto the table}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strong Mad, tell your girlfriend to do one more.

'''STRONG MAD:''' SHE'S GONNA BLOW!!

''{Homestar Runner runs up, dressed as a waiter, with a brown cap that says 'egg.' on it}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Aaaaaaand can I get you gentlemen anything else?

''{Homestar holds up a red clown shoe, and a large daisy rises from inside it}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Boodiiiing!

''{cut back to the title screen}''

''{cut to a Powered by The Cheat landscape, showing a volcano and the caption "The Millionzoic Era". Cut to a scene showing a prehistoric Marzipan and Homestar, with a tar pit next to them}''

'''PBTC CAVEMAN HOMESTAR:''' ''{spits green bubbles while he talks}'' Ooga, ooga. My breath, it stinks.

'''PBTC CAVEWOMAN MARZIPAN:''' ''{turns to the left, away from Homestar}'' Uh-huh!

'''PBTC CAVEMAN HOMESTAR:''' Real, real bad!

''{A pterodactyl with Coach Z's hat flies in from the right}''

'''PBTC COACH Z DACTYL:''' I look at the fly! ''{flies off to the left}''

''{A caveman Strong Bad enters from the mountains. He lands in the tar pit, which splashes Homestar and turns into a skull, which sticks to Homestar. As Strong Bad sinks to the bottom of the tar pit, his feet can be seen poking out from underneath.}''

'''PBTC CAVEMAN STRONG BAD:''' Ooga. Me want set the face on fires.

'''PBTC CAVEMAN HOMESTAR:''' What's fire?

'''PBTC CAVEWOMAN MARZIPAN:''' It sounds fun! Oo-ga! ''{jumps}''

''{A large The Cheat-like dinosaur runs by from the right. It then clamps its mouth around the volcano and begins "drinking" from it, accompanied by glugging noises. The Cheatsaurus then turns and breathes fire over the group, scorching them. Marzipan turns into a drumstick with its tongue sticking out, Homestar into a smiling steak with a gold tooth, and Strong Bad merely blackens}''

'''PBTC CAVEMAN MARZIPAN AND HOMESTAR:''' Aaaah!

'''PBTC CAVEMAN STRONG BAD:''' Oh, me too! ''{turns into a dish with a lobster tail on it}'' I am not exempt!

'''PBTC COACH Z DACTYL:''' ''{pokes head in}'' Hey, did you see that? The Cheatsaurus can do it again!

''{cut back to the title screen}''

''{open with a few shots of leaves, then focus in on Pom Pom's head. He opens his eyes, then leaps out of a bush and jumps upwards. He does a brief pose before falling back down again. He lands on a tree branch, then begins to leap forward from branch to branch. He lands on the ground, and pops a bo staff out of himself. He twirls the staff as pictures of bamboo and a wave appear behind him. He then jumps up. Cut to a long shot of him arcing over Strong Badia and Bubs' Concession Stand. He then lands lightly next to Coach Z. He pops out a deodorant stick out of himself, and tosses it to Coach Z.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Thanks for the smell-cakes, Pom Pom! But next time could you dispense with all the flyin' whozits?!

''{Pom Pom pulls out a small smoke bomb and throws it on the ground in front of him. When the smoke clears, Pom Pom has vanished}''

''{cut back to the title screen}''
<div id="Brain_Sister">
''{cut to a black screen, while red and green lasers arc from the top and bottom of the screen. Guitar music begins, while the Limozeen logo appears in bright yellow. The logo splits, and an image of Larry appears. It changes color, as a pair of feminine legs in fishnet walk by. Three images of Larry playing guitar appear, which meld into one of him leaping into a power chord. The words "BRAIN SISTER" rise from the bottom as Larry jumps offscreen. A calculator displaying 3.14 appears, and an outline of Texas draws itself around it. Several images of a brain, Larry, guitars, and the ZEEN part of the logo flash past in front of a crowd, until Larry zooms forward, surrounded by stars and playing guitar. More images of Larry's head flash in front of the crowd, as the lasers start again. The calculator flashes by, and the legs walk out, with a brain perched on top of them. They walk by a Limozeen amp as the song ends. The Limozeen logo flashes briefly}''

'''LARRY PALARONCINI:''' ''{singing}''
:Well, she was only twenty-seventeen.
:She was a low res beauty queen.
:She was a brain... brain... brain sister!
:Texas Instruments all day!
:And she remembers how they used to duet,
:And she remembers how they used to duet!
:Th'all think you know what I mean!

'''LARRY PALARONCINI:''' Yeah! Those do all right! Uh!
</div>
''{cut back to the title screen}''

''{open in a barroom-type scene. Homestar and Pom Pom are seated at the bar. Both have an 'old one bottle, and there is a bowl of peanuts on the table}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Seriously, Pom Pom. ''{gesturing with bottle}'' You and me, we're like two breads in a biscuit. ''{pokes the bottle in Pom Pom's face}'' Two breads in a biscuit! I'm gonna make a T-shirt! ''{leans in close}'' No, wait! You and me? ''{crouches to look at peanuts}'' We're like this bowl of mayonnaise here. ''{points at Pom Pom with the bottle}'' You're the bowl, 'cuz you're a big, round, fat guy. ''{Pom Pom looks angry. Homestar sits up again, now pointing at himself with the bottle}'' And I'm the mayonnaise, 'cuz I'm smart as peanuts. That'll make a good T-shirt too. Oop, no, wait! Before you strangle me again... You and me? ''{pulls the napkin out from under his bottle}'' Soggy napkin. ''{as Homestar says "Soggy", Pom Pom gets an unimpressed look on his face.}''

''{cut to the picture of the shorts from the title screen, which now just reads "End."}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on the dartboard while Homestar says, "I'm gonna make a T-shirt" to see a [[T-shirt]] with a slice of bread + a slice of bread = a biscuit.
*Click on the dartboard again while Homestar says, "That'll make a good T-shirt too" to see a T-shirt with a bowl of [[mayonnaise]] and the words "Smart as Peanuts!"
[[Image:Very Very Little Girl.jpg|thumb|"You've got no interest in the crazy man over here, do you?"]]
*Click on the "n" in "End" to see a [[Puppet Stuff]] short.
:''{The title "Homestar vs. Very, Very Little Girl" appears. Scene opens to reveal the very, very little girl is swinging and Homestar is standing next to the swing.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh hello, very, very little girl. Take it away.
:''{piano flourish, crickets, another piano flourish}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I've got no material with this kid. Say something cute. Talk about picking your nose. You seem like a smart kid. You wanna go out some time?
:''{Music from the Pom Pom short plays. Homestar dances.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You've got no interest in the crazy man over here, do you?
:''{Homestar Runner comes too close to the swing and is hit three times.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' OW! ... OW! ... UH!
:''{The screen goes black and "end." appears on the screen.}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*The Limozeen sequence simulates a [[Lasers|laser show]].
*[[Wikipedia:Image resolution|Low res]] is short for low resolution which refers to an image with a low level of detail.
*The calculator during the Limozeen sequence displays 3.14, which is a common approximation for [[Pi]].

===Trivia===
*At the February 2006 [[Flashforward 2006 Seattle - 28 Feb 2006|Flashforward]], [[Matt Chapman]] mentioned that [[Missy Palmer]] was pregnant—the [[Very, Very Little Girl]] in the Easter egg is perhaps [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] and Missy's baby.
**It was revealed in the DVD commentary that Mike's baby provided the voice of The Cheat in this short.

===Remarks===
[[Image:Freecountry silhouette.png|thumb|The layout of the land, err.. Free Country in silhouette form.]]
*The PBTC Coach Z Dactyl has a voice similar to the PBTC Coach Z, but when he says "Cheatsaurus", he pronounces it correctly rather than saying "Chort".
*After the Coach Z Dactyl flies by for the first time, it remains off camera at the left edge of the animation until just after Caveman Strong Bad splashes tar on Caveman Homestar, at which time the Dactyl pops back into view for a frame or two before disappearing in preparation for its second flight.
*The Pom Pom short reveals that Bubs' Concession Stand abuts Strong Badia, and apparently a lush forest exists beyond that.
*The sky can be seen inside Bubs' Concession Stand during Pom Pom's scene. This would only be possible if one of the walls were missing.
**The email [[the chair]] shows that one of the walls in Bubs' Concession Stand can lower, making this possible.
*Pom Pom shows off his skills with a [[Wikipedia:Bo (weapon)|bo staff]].

===Goofs===
*The french fry on the table loses its reflection after the cut to the wider shot.
*The french fries The Cheat spits out have no reflection.

===Inside References===
[[Image:Barscene anim.gif|thumb|Déjà Vu Anyone?]]
*The same short shorts on the title screen are worn by [[Matt Chapman]] in [[Peasant's Quest Preview]].
*Homestar has an [[egg]] on his hat in the restaurant sequence, which also features the same French fries and bottles of [[Quite Fancy 'Chup]] first seen in [[funny]].
*Millionzoic Homestar says that his breath smells real real bad, which is similar to how he told Strong Bad that his burps smell real bad in [[Sick Day]].
*Millionzoic Homestar turns into a [[steak]] with a [[The Cheat's Gold Tooth|gold tooth]].
*"The ol'' Cheatasaurus" is what Strong Bad [[Nicknames|nicknamed]] The Cheat in [[other days]].
*The short in The Millionzoic Era resembles the MS Paint picture Strong Mad sends Strong Bad of a brontosaurus eating bacon and eggs at the end of [[lunch special]].
*The back beat during the Pom Pom short is from [[Theme Song Video]], in which he previously demonstrated his skill in martial arts.
*The animation of Pom Pom's smoke bomb is the same animation of Strong Bad's pants poofing away in [[senior prom]].
*The "guitar stars" featured in the laser show are from [[rock opera]].
*The solar calculator during the Limozeen laser show is similar to the one on the chalkboard in [[technology]], which also displayed [[Pi|3.14]].
*There is a [[LEMKE]] flag on the wall in the bar short.
*Homestar mentions [[bread]] in the bar short.
*The bar short with Homestar and Pom Pom drinking [[Cold One|'old ones]] is almost identical to a scene near the end of the [[Theme Song Video]].
*The flower was also seen in [[She Loves Me!]].
*There is an instance of [[gender confusion]].
*Short shorts were mentioned just a week earlier with Camp Counselor Shortshorts in [[Teen Girl Squad 11]].
*''Millionzoic'' and ''twenty-seventeen'' are [[portmanteaus]].
*The music at the beginning of Homestar vs. Very, Very Little Girl comes from Strong Bad's kids' show in [[for kids]].

===Real-World References===
*Texas circumscribing the calculator and the lyrics of the song are a reference to [[Wikipedia:Texas Instruments|Texas Instruments]], a computer and electronics development company.
*One of the backgrounds of Pom Pom's Bo routine is modeled after the [[Wikipedia:Ukiyo-e|ukiyo-e]] woodblock painting [[Wikipedia:Image:Tsunami by hokusai 19th century.jpg|"The Great Wave Off Kanagawa"]] by [[Wikipedia:Hokusai|Hokusai]].
*The Limozeen lyrics "Well, she was only twenty-seventeen." and "I think you know what I mean!" are references to the lyrics "Well she was just seventeen. You know what I mean." from [[The Beatles]] song "[[Wikipedia:I Saw Her Standing There|I Saw Her Standing There]]". Also, the second line of The Beatles song originally went, "Never been a beauty queen" (or "Not exactly a beauty queen", depending on the source).
*"Dare to Bare!" is a reference to a slogan used by hair-removal product [[Wikipedia:Nair (hair removal)|Nair]], who became famous for their ad jingle where people asked "Who wears short shorts?"
*Homestar performing the magic trick with a flower growing out of a shoe is a reference to the waiter "[[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell#Other main characters|Max]]" from "[[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]]", who was often seen performing magic tricks while serving the students their food.

*Very, Very Little Girl is in a [[Wikipedia:Fisher-Price|Fisher-Price]] B0639 Cradle Swing with the Rubber Ducky pattern.

===Fast Forward===
*More short shorts were produced in [[Decemberween Short Shorts]].

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MIKE:''' Oh, look! That— There's—''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' ''{laughing}'' Don't look! Don't look, actually.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughing}'' There's Matt's shorts and legs.

'''MATT:''' Uh, I kind of don't like the way that the— the... words are getting bigger over... over my—

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' It's unsettling.

'''MATT:''' It's very unsettling.

'''MIKE:''' So The Cheat's noises right there are my daughter when she was about a month old.

'''MATT:''' Yep.

'''MIKE:''' She sounded just like The Cheat with a million marshmallows stuffed in his mouth.

'''MATT:''' Well, it was an inappropriate sound then. ''{pause}'' Uh, this is a Powered by The Cheat section, Mike. ''You'' probably made this.

'''MIKE:''' I— I did make it. The Cheat—

'''MATT:''' What did Coach Z just say there? "Helicopter fly"?

'''MIKE:''' Uh... I—

'''MATT:''' "I look at the fly"?

'''MIKE:''' Uh, "I look at the fly", yeah.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughing}'' "I look at the fly".

'''MIKE:''' I think, basically he's saying, "Look at me, I'm flying."

'''MATT:''' ''{laughing}'' Okay. So not only can The Cheat not do good voices, he can't speak English very well.

'''MIKE:''' Well...

'''MATT:''' Or was it because he's a dinosaur?

'''MIKE:''' It's not his first language.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughing}'' Well, that's true! I like the steak that Homestar turned into.

'''MIKE:''' This is, uh, this is Matt's work.

'''MATT:''' This was fun to make. I was just trying to— I had watched that, uh... what's it called... that really well-animated Flash cartoon where that guy is getting chased by that cloud? He's that goat-faced guy— goat-head guy and he's getting chased by that cloud. I think I had seen the first one of those, I forget which one came first. Kind of inspired me. ''Samurai Jack''-ish, I suppose, too.

'''MIKE:''' Look at that! Strong Badia is in between the forest and Bubs's.

'''MATT:''' Look out, Coach Z! Oh! That's the— That's called "good explosion" in our Flash library. And, uh—

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' It was made for Cheat Commandos, right?

'''MATT:''' Yeah. I based it off of an explosion from and old Galaxy Rangers cartoon, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' Uh... so, if you've ever seen a laser show like this ''recently'', it's not very different from if you saw a laser show like this twenty years ago.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, the laser show at Stone Mountain, uh, has not changed at all.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, I— I hadn't been for maybe 15 years, and we went a couple years ago and it's just amazingly bad as it ever was.

'''MATT:''' Do they still do that part where it looks like Spirographs and they play Axel F from Beverly Hills Cops?

'''MIKE:''' They don't play Axel F. The music changes, but, uh, the lasers are still very— very bad animated bears.

'''MATT:''' Is this Pom Pom's rumpus room?

'''MIKE:''' I think so. Yeah.

'''MATT:''' This is from, uh... the Homestar Runner theme song video. They're hanging out down there, right? Having Cold Ones. And we updated it for this.

'''MIKE:''' That's right.

'''MATT:''' Lemke, Mike. The Lemmer. The Lemmer's been— he's been doing commentary.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, he does the pre- and post-game show on Braves Radio.

'''MATT:''' Yep.

===Fun Facts===
*The "really well-animated Flash cartoon" Matt refers to is ''[http://www.biteycastle.com/theYuyu.html the Yuyu]'' by [[Wikipedia:Adam Phillips (animator)|Adam Phillips]].
*''[[Wikipedia:Samurai Jack|Samurai Jack]]'' is a cartoon known for its highly detailed, outline-free, masking-based animation, as well as for its cinematic style and pacing.

{{sectionstub}}

==External Links==
*[[HR:shortshorts.html|watch "Summer Short Shorts"]]
*[[HR:shortshorts.swf|view the Flash file for "Summer Short Shorts"]]
*[[HR:shortshorts little.swf|view the Flash file for "Homestar vs. Very, Very Little Girl"]]
*[[Forum:9214|forum thread re: "Summer Short Shorts"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|shortshorts}}

[[Category:Shorts]]
[[Category:Powered by The Cheat]]
[[Category:Puppet Stuff]]
[[Category:DVD Commentary]]

Green Fumes

2008-01-21T22:50:04Z

Dynamite: /* Appearances */

[[Image:Tao Chicken.PNG|thumb|"It's the ghost of General Tso!"]]

'''Green smoke''' is often seen in [[Free Country, USA]], generally used to signify a strong stench.

==Appearances==
*Email [[ghosts]] — The [[General Tso's Chicken|rotten Chinese food]] seen has green smoke coming out of it.
*Email [[monster truck]] — [[The Poopsmith]] horrifying lights some smoke bombs, including a green one.
*Email [[couch patch]] — When [[Strong Bad]] cuts open [[the couch]] looking for [[Aztec]] [[gold]], green smoke comes out.
*Email [[long pants]] — When [[Homestar]]'s pants are incinerated, green smoke is produced.
*[[Sick Day]] — When Homestar is sick, his burps emit a green smoke. Also, green smoke emanates from the the door to [[Strong Mad]]'s room.
*Email [[trading cards]] — When the [[Coach Z]] showering expert trading card appears, a layer of green smoke is around him. Later, when [[Stinkoman]] uses the [[Cheatball]] Poison Rain Vornado attack, Cheatball explodes in a cloud of green smoke.
*Email [[hygiene]] — Green smoke comes out of Homestar's mouth, while Strong Bad describes it as an "ecological train wreck".
[[Category:Object running gags]]

Homestar Runner's Daisy Dukes

2008-01-21T22:49:00Z

Dynamite:

[[Image:homestardukes.PNG|thumb|"Check out my creepy pants!!"]]
'''[[Wikipedia:Daisy Dukes|Daisy Dukes]]''' were very short purple [[Pants#Homestar's Pants|pants]] worn by [[Homestar Runner]] in the email [[long pants]]. After [[Strong Bad]] edited an email to say "creepy pants all the time get some," Homestar put them on in the hopes of getting some "light globes." Strong Bad was very disturbed by them. After they fell off and Homestar ran away, [[The Cheat]] burned them with the [[BMW Lighter]], incinerating them in a puff of [[green smoke]].

==Appearances==
*'''Debut:''' Email [[long pants]]

[[Category:Clothing]]

Ham

2008-01-21T22:47:52Z

Dynamite: /* Appearances */

[[Image:Ham.png|thumb|Heavenly ham]]

One of [[The King of Town]]'s favorite foods seems to be '''[[Wikipedia:Ham|ham]]''' given how often he is seen around or mentions one. Others in the [[Homestar Runner universe]] occasionally partake in this meat product as well.

== Appearances ==
*[[Homestarloween Party]] — The King of Town imagines up several foods, including ham.
*[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] — If you choose to give the King of Town butterscotch, he will ask if you will melt down the butterscotch and pour it over a ham.
*[[Meet Marshie]] — Among the foods that appear on the blackboard is a ham.
*[[Revenge of the King]] — One of the foods you can fire at the King of Town is a ham.
*[[These peoples try to fade me]] — At one point in the secret [[These peoples try to fade me Visuals|music video]], [[Coach Z]]'s head is replaced with a ham.
*Email [[colonization]] — One of the three Stout Sub Sandwiches is the Ham 'n' Swiss.
*[[Halloween Fairstival]] — The King of Town's X-ray of his heart shows a picture of a ham.
*[[Homestar Presents: Presents]] — Among the [[Decemberween Food|Decemberween foods]] mentioned is "stuffinged ham".
*[[Stinkomanual]] — Ekersby has a ham for a heart, which is his weak point in [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0|Level -0]].
*[[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] — The King of Town and [[Homestar Runner]] exchange words about a ham sandwich.
*[[Thy Dungeonman 3]] — The fat monk is seen eating a large glazed ham.
*[[Kid Speedy]] — The King of Town's personal track is shaped like a ham.
*Email [[retirement]] — The King of Town is presented with pictures of him as a half-ham, half-king.
*[[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] — The King of Town can be seen with a ham when [[Strong Bad]] crosses the finish line.
*Email [[redesign]] — Strong Bad envisions using green screen technology to project video games on his computer room's wall, remarking that the pixels would be "as big as hams!"

==See Also==
*[[Pork]]
*[[Bacon]]

[[Category:Generic food and drinks]]

impression

2008-01-21T01:43:38Z

Dynamite: /* Fast Forward */

{{sbenav|82}}
[[Image:sbemail82.png|thumb|"Nice use of light and shadow... and picnic supplies!"]]

"Your Friend" asks Strong Bad to do his best impression of Strong Sad. Strong Bad goes to the [[Strong Sad Lookalike Contest]] instead.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[Jhonka]] (Easter egg), {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[Living Room of the Brothers Strong]] (Easter egg)

'''Computer:''' [[Compy 386]]

'''Date:''' Monday, August 25, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 3:13

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Three}}

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Email: It's like the sugar on the candy for my stuff.

''{reading email}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Dear Strong Bad, 
 
Could you please do your impression 
of Strong Sad? 
 
Thanks, 
Your friend</blockquote>

''{pauses between "Dear" and "Strong"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...and there's no name. Um... Thanks, Your friend... Jhonka.

''{He types "Jhonka" under "Your Friend", then starts typing his reply.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' No way, Jhonka! What a coincidence! I was just on my way out the door to go to the annual Strong Sad Lookalike Contest where contestants are judged on appearance, impression and penmanship. I'm a shoo-in this year, man. Wait'll you see my costume!

''{He runs offscreen, but runs back a few seconds later to say:}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Not beatin' around the bush this week.

''{Strong Bad runs off again. Cut to The Field. Coach Z is standing under a sign that reads: "2003 Sectional Finals — STRONG SAD LOOKALIKE CONTEST".}''

'''COACH Z:''' Okay, I'd like to welcome everybody back! Hope you enjoyed your intermission there. Bubs, the hot cold cuts was great!

'''BUBS:''' ''{off screen}'' Those were moist towelettes!

'''COACH Z:''' So without further ado, I'd like to introduce the man of the hour, the deathly pallor: Strong Sad!!

''{Strong Sad joins Coach Z under the sign}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{off screen}'' Booo!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Thank you! Thank you! I'm simultaneously honored and insulted to be involved in this contest for the fourth year in a row.

'''COACH Z:''' That's enough there, Strong Sad! ''{He shoves Strong Sad out of the way.}'' Your work is done here. Let's get this pratty started!!

''{Cut to a view of Strong Bad in a Strong Sad costume, which consists of a grey "Phys Ed" sweatshirt, a white beret, and a paper plate with Strong Sad's face drawn on it. There's a suspicious looking lump under the sweatshirt.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Lookin' good there, Strong Bad.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I know.

'''COACH Z:''' Nice use of light and shadow.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I know.

'''COACH Z:''' ...and picnic supplies.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I know. Shut up.

'''COACH Z:''' Let's hear what you got.

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right. Let me just push play on my "sweatshirt" here.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{on a tape}'' Why do you want me to say "Hello, my name is Strong Sad"? ''{He fast-forwards the tape}'' Get that tape-recorder out of my face! ''{more fast-forwarding}'' Stop flickin' my ear!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{also on tape}'' More like, You stop flickin' ''my ear''!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{He stops the tape.}'' Ha ha. Oops.

'''COACH Z:''' Ok, then. Very unsuspicious.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I know.

''{Coach Z moves on to Homestar Runner. Homestar is wearing hippo slippers and a grey shirt with a star on it, and he has a sock taped to his head instead of his signature hat.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, there, Homestar. Nice hippo slippers.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thanks. They're elephants.

'''COACH Z:''' Sure they are! Now let's hear your impression.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Um... Remind me again what type stuff that guy says.

'''COACH Z:''' You know. Depressing-type stuff!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Right, right! Here goes! Ahem. ''{in a depressing voice}'' Oh... Some animal died. ''{In his normal voice}'' That's something he's always saying, right?

'''COACH Z:''' Yeah, I think I heard him say that a few times. Next contestant!

''{The next contestant appears to be Strong Sad.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Strong Sad, you're not eligible for this contest! I thought I told youse to go on home!

''{A familiar-looking hat pops up from behind the Strong Sad lookalike's head revealing that he is, in fact, Homsar. His Strong Sad costume is flawless, except the mouth becomes bigger when Homsar talks. Coach Z (already walking away) doesn't realize who it is.}''

'''HOMSAR''': ''{sadly}'' AaAaAaAa... I'm cryin' on the inside!

''{The Cheat hops up in a paper bag, painted to look like Strong Sad's left leg.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Okay, The Chort, lay it on me!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{depressed The Cheat noises)''

'''COACH Z:''' Holy crap! It's as if Strong Sad was still alive and with us today! First Prize!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noise}'' ''{Jumps up out of the bag, then lands back inside bag}''

''{Cut to Strong Bad's computer. Strong Bad walks up muttering. He's still in costume.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Stupid friggin' Cheat-in-a-Bag. ''{typing}'' I can't believe The Cheat won sectionals for the 4th year in a row dressed up as Strong Sad's left leg. I knew I should have gone for the bigger butt. ''{stops typing}'' Oh well. ''{resumes typing}'' At least I won the penmanship award. But I should get going if I'm still going to be fashionably late to the afterparty. ''{stops typing}'' So, until next time, all the ladies and dudes say: ''{singing}'' "Strong Bad is a cool guy! And we're not cool in the least!"

''{Strong Bad leaves and [[The Paper]] descends.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on "Jhonka" to see just what a Jhonka is.
<blockquote>JHONKA 
 
The Jhonka are one of many 
tribes of primitive, troll-like 
creatures found in the lowlands 
and throughout lesser dungeons. 
 
Their low intelligence makes 
them quite susceptible to toilet 
humor and cheap gags such as 
"Gimme five. Up high. Down 
low. Too slow." 
 
FREQUENCY: Common 
INTELLIGENCE: Low 
ARMOR CLASS: +2</blockquote>
*Click on "Bigger Butt" to see Strong Bad's alternative plans for his costume.
*Click on "Penmanship Award" to see Strong Bad's entry for the Strong Sad penmanship contest.
*Click on "afterparty" at the end to see what happened at the afterparty.
:''{Homestar and Coach Z are standing in a room filled with a balloons. Homestar is dressed in his Strong Sad costume, "[[Poot-Slap]]" is playing in the background, and Coach Z is holding a [[Cold One|Not So Cold One]].}''
:'''COACH Z:''' I meant to tell you the sock on the head was a nice touch.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I have a sock on my head? ''{shaking back and forth}'' Getitoff getitoff getitoff getitoff getitoff getitoff ''{stops shaking}'' getitoff getitoff.

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*The "not beating around the bush" comment may refer to Strong Bad's normal way of [[Derailed Emails|not really answering an email's question]]. Alternatively, it may mean that there is no delay between his remark and his answer.
*Pallor means paleness.
*The "cheap gag" mentioned in the Jhonka Easter Egg involves the perpetrator giving the receiver a [[Wikipedia:high five|high five]] ("Up high"), then pretending to offer a low-five ("down low"), but pulling their hand away before the other person can slap it ("too slow").

===Trivia===
*This toon has the ending Easter egg embedded in the beginning of the Flash file, instead of it being at the end as usual.

===Remarks===
*Strong Sad on the tape tells Strong Bad to stop flicking his ear, but Strong Sad doesn't have [[Lack of Visible Body Parts#Ears|visible ears]].
*The Cheat's costume has three toenails, whereas Strong Sad's [[soolnds]] only have two toenails each.
*In this email, Strong Bad shows excellent touch-typing skills as he finishes the email with a paper plate mask taped to his face. However, he seems to later lose this ability. In [[pom pom]], Strong Bad is unable to type while blindfolded.
*Strong Sad actually saying "Oh...some animal died" was made the [[Quote of the Week#QW-2003-08-25|Quote of the Week]] the same day this email appeared on the site.
*Homestar wearing hippo slippers, which he thinks are elephants, may be a reference to [[Soolnds]] because they look like "elephant feet".
*Both wooden columns supporting the banner have the staples and torn pieces of paper in the exact same spots.
*Coach Z says "adieu" instead of "ado"; this is a rather common mistake, and probably all the more probable with Coach Z being the speaker.

===Goofs===
*When Strong Bad comes back to the computer after the contest, still wearing his costume, his hat is incorrectly mirrored in the screen's reflection.
*The form for the penmanship contest says 2004 Sectional Finals, however, the sign for the contest said 2003.
*Homestar's eyes reverse direction quickly before he slouches to do his Strong Sad impression.
*Strong Sad doesn't move his mouth to his "whoa!" when he is pushed. Instead, his mouth switches direction.

===Glitches===
*If you click on both the Bigger Butt and Penmanship Award Easter eggs at the end, the Penmanship award will always be on top, regardless of which order they are activated in.
*At the end of the afterparty Easter egg, a snippet of Strong Bad's voice from the beginning could be heard.

===Inside References===
*At the after party Coach Z is drinking a "[[Cold One|Not So Cold One]]," from [[property of ones]].
*Strong Bad's comeback "More like, YOU stop flicking MY ear," is very similar to his comeback in [[50 emails]].
*The hat Strong Bad wears is similar to the hat Strong Sad originally wore in his original sketches seen in the [[Sketchbook (museum)|Museum Sketchbook]].
*Coach Z's praise of The Cheat's costume ("It's as if Strong Sad was still alive and with us today!") is another instance of [[Death#Strong Sad|Strong Sad's imagined death]].
*The blue ribbon in the penmanship Easter egg is the same as the ribbons from [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*The King of Town [[The King of Town Booing|boos]] Strong Sad.
*The Cheat dresses as Strong Sad's [[Severed Body Parts|leg]].

===Real-World References===
*The picture of Jhonka is reminiscent of the various humanoid creatures in [[Wikipedia:Dungeons & Dragons|Dungeons and Dragons]].
**In previous versions of Dungeons and Dragons, an armor class of +2 would be a decent defense rating. However, in the current incarnation of Dungeons and Dragons it would make the creature very easy to hit in combat. The article's tone seems to indicate that it was written for 2nd edition AD&D.
*In the bigger butt Easter egg, Strong Bad drew the [[Wikipedia:Kangol|Kangol]] kangaroo above his cap. Kangol is a British clothier famous for this kind of hat.

===Fast Forward===
*The Jhonka plays a prominent role in [[Peasant's Quest]].
*Homestar also uses, "Oh... Some animal died" in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]].
*[[The Deathly Pallor]] will later become the name of Strong Sad's radio persona in [[radio]]. It is also used in the email [[trading cards]].
*The King of Town again demonstrates his low, one-man "boooo" in [[geddup noise]] after showing "The Standing Up Noise" and again in [[Ever and More!]] and then again in [[yes, wrestling]].

== DVD Version ==
*All of the Easter eggs in this email are viewable using the angle button on your DVD remote.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail82.html|watch "impression"]]
*[[HR:sbemail82.swf|view the Flash file for "impression"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]]

impression

2008-01-21T01:42:18Z

Dynamite: /* Fast Forward */

{{sbenav|82}}
[[Image:sbemail82.png|thumb|"Nice use of light and shadow... and picnic supplies!"]]

"Your Friend" asks Strong Bad to do his best impression of Strong Sad. Strong Bad goes to the [[Strong Sad Lookalike Contest]] instead.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[Jhonka]] (Easter egg), {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[Living Room of the Brothers Strong]] (Easter egg)

'''Computer:''' [[Compy 386]]

'''Date:''' Monday, August 25, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 3:13

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Three}}

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Email: It's like the sugar on the candy for my stuff.

''{reading email}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Dear Strong Bad, 
 
Could you please do your impression 
of Strong Sad? 
 
Thanks, 
Your friend</blockquote>

''{pauses between "Dear" and "Strong"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...and there's no name. Um... Thanks, Your friend... Jhonka.

''{He types "Jhonka" under "Your Friend", then starts typing his reply.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' No way, Jhonka! What a coincidence! I was just on my way out the door to go to the annual Strong Sad Lookalike Contest where contestants are judged on appearance, impression and penmanship. I'm a shoo-in this year, man. Wait'll you see my costume!

''{He runs offscreen, but runs back a few seconds later to say:}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Not beatin' around the bush this week.

''{Strong Bad runs off again. Cut to The Field. Coach Z is standing under a sign that reads: "2003 Sectional Finals — STRONG SAD LOOKALIKE CONTEST".}''

'''COACH Z:''' Okay, I'd like to welcome everybody back! Hope you enjoyed your intermission there. Bubs, the hot cold cuts was great!

'''BUBS:''' ''{off screen}'' Those were moist towelettes!

'''COACH Z:''' So without further ado, I'd like to introduce the man of the hour, the deathly pallor: Strong Sad!!

''{Strong Sad joins Coach Z under the sign}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{off screen}'' Booo!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Thank you! Thank you! I'm simultaneously honored and insulted to be involved in this contest for the fourth year in a row.

'''COACH Z:''' That's enough there, Strong Sad! ''{He shoves Strong Sad out of the way.}'' Your work is done here. Let's get this pratty started!!

''{Cut to a view of Strong Bad in a Strong Sad costume, which consists of a grey "Phys Ed" sweatshirt, a white beret, and a paper plate with Strong Sad's face drawn on it. There's a suspicious looking lump under the sweatshirt.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Lookin' good there, Strong Bad.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I know.

'''COACH Z:''' Nice use of light and shadow.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I know.

'''COACH Z:''' ...and picnic supplies.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I know. Shut up.

'''COACH Z:''' Let's hear what you got.

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right. Let me just push play on my "sweatshirt" here.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{on a tape}'' Why do you want me to say "Hello, my name is Strong Sad"? ''{He fast-forwards the tape}'' Get that tape-recorder out of my face! ''{more fast-forwarding}'' Stop flickin' my ear!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{also on tape}'' More like, You stop flickin' ''my ear''!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{He stops the tape.}'' Ha ha. Oops.

'''COACH Z:''' Ok, then. Very unsuspicious.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I know.

''{Coach Z moves on to Homestar Runner. Homestar is wearing hippo slippers and a grey shirt with a star on it, and he has a sock taped to his head instead of his signature hat.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, there, Homestar. Nice hippo slippers.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thanks. They're elephants.

'''COACH Z:''' Sure they are! Now let's hear your impression.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Um... Remind me again what type stuff that guy says.

'''COACH Z:''' You know. Depressing-type stuff!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Right, right! Here goes! Ahem. ''{in a depressing voice}'' Oh... Some animal died. ''{In his normal voice}'' That's something he's always saying, right?

'''COACH Z:''' Yeah, I think I heard him say that a few times. Next contestant!

''{The next contestant appears to be Strong Sad.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Strong Sad, you're not eligible for this contest! I thought I told youse to go on home!

''{A familiar-looking hat pops up from behind the Strong Sad lookalike's head revealing that he is, in fact, Homsar. His Strong Sad costume is flawless, except the mouth becomes bigger when Homsar talks. Coach Z (already walking away) doesn't realize who it is.}''

'''HOMSAR''': ''{sadly}'' AaAaAaAa... I'm cryin' on the inside!

''{The Cheat hops up in a paper bag, painted to look like Strong Sad's left leg.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Okay, The Chort, lay it on me!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{depressed The Cheat noises)''

'''COACH Z:''' Holy crap! It's as if Strong Sad was still alive and with us today! First Prize!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noise}'' ''{Jumps up out of the bag, then lands back inside bag}''

''{Cut to Strong Bad's computer. Strong Bad walks up muttering. He's still in costume.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Stupid friggin' Cheat-in-a-Bag. ''{typing}'' I can't believe The Cheat won sectionals for the 4th year in a row dressed up as Strong Sad's left leg. I knew I should have gone for the bigger butt. ''{stops typing}'' Oh well. ''{resumes typing}'' At least I won the penmanship award. But I should get going if I'm still going to be fashionably late to the afterparty. ''{stops typing}'' So, until next time, all the ladies and dudes say: ''{singing}'' "Strong Bad is a cool guy! And we're not cool in the least!"

''{Strong Bad leaves and [[The Paper]] descends.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on "Jhonka" to see just what a Jhonka is.
<blockquote>JHONKA 
 
The Jhonka are one of many 
tribes of primitive, troll-like 
creatures found in the lowlands 
and throughout lesser dungeons. 
 
Their low intelligence makes 
them quite susceptible to toilet 
humor and cheap gags such as 
"Gimme five. Up high. Down 
low. Too slow." 
 
FREQUENCY: Common 
INTELLIGENCE: Low 
ARMOR CLASS: +2</blockquote>
*Click on "Bigger Butt" to see Strong Bad's alternative plans for his costume.
*Click on "Penmanship Award" to see Strong Bad's entry for the Strong Sad penmanship contest.
*Click on "afterparty" at the end to see what happened at the afterparty.
:''{Homestar and Coach Z are standing in a room filled with a balloons. Homestar is dressed in his Strong Sad costume, "[[Poot-Slap]]" is playing in the background, and Coach Z is holding a [[Cold One|Not So Cold One]].}''
:'''COACH Z:''' I meant to tell you the sock on the head was a nice touch.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I have a sock on my head? ''{shaking back and forth}'' Getitoff getitoff getitoff getitoff getitoff getitoff ''{stops shaking}'' getitoff getitoff.

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*The "not beating around the bush" comment may refer to Strong Bad's normal way of [[Derailed Emails|not really answering an email's question]]. Alternatively, it may mean that there is no delay between his remark and his answer.
*Pallor means paleness.
*The "cheap gag" mentioned in the Jhonka Easter Egg involves the perpetrator giving the receiver a [[Wikipedia:high five|high five]] ("Up high"), then pretending to offer a low-five ("down low"), but pulling their hand away before the other person can slap it ("too slow").

===Trivia===
*This toon has the ending Easter egg embedded in the beginning of the Flash file, instead of it being at the end as usual.

===Remarks===
*Strong Sad on the tape tells Strong Bad to stop flicking his ear, but Strong Sad doesn't have [[Lack of Visible Body Parts#Ears|visible ears]].
*The Cheat's costume has three toenails, whereas Strong Sad's [[soolnds]] only have two toenails each.
*In this email, Strong Bad shows excellent touch-typing skills as he finishes the email with a paper plate mask taped to his face. However, he seems to later lose this ability. In [[pom pom]], Strong Bad is unable to type while blindfolded.
*Strong Sad actually saying "Oh...some animal died" was made the [[Quote of the Week#QW-2003-08-25|Quote of the Week]] the same day this email appeared on the site.
*Homestar wearing hippo slippers, which he thinks are elephants, may be a reference to [[Soolnds]] because they look like "elephant feet".
*Both wooden columns supporting the banner have the staples and torn pieces of paper in the exact same spots.
*Coach Z says "adieu" instead of "ado"; this is a rather common mistake, and probably all the more probable with Coach Z being the speaker.

===Goofs===
*When Strong Bad comes back to the computer after the contest, still wearing his costume, his hat is incorrectly mirrored in the screen's reflection.
*The form for the penmanship contest says 2004 Sectional Finals, however, the sign for the contest said 2003.
*Homestar's eyes reverse direction quickly before he slouches to do his Strong Sad impression.
*Strong Sad doesn't move his mouth to his "whoa!" when he is pushed. Instead, his mouth switches direction.

===Glitches===
*If you click on both the Bigger Butt and Penmanship Award Easter eggs at the end, the Penmanship award will always be on top, regardless of which order they are activated in.
*At the end of the afterparty Easter egg, a snippet of Strong Bad's voice from the beginning could be heard.

===Inside References===
*At the after party Coach Z is drinking a "[[Cold One|Not So Cold One]]," from [[property of ones]].
*Strong Bad's comeback "More like, YOU stop flicking MY ear," is very similar to his comeback in [[50 emails]].
*The hat Strong Bad wears is similar to the hat Strong Sad originally wore in his original sketches seen in the [[Sketchbook (museum)|Museum Sketchbook]].
*Coach Z's praise of The Cheat's costume ("It's as if Strong Sad was still alive and with us today!") is another instance of [[Death#Strong Sad|Strong Sad's imagined death]].
*The blue ribbon in the penmanship Easter egg is the same as the ribbons from [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*The King of Town [[The King of Town Booing|boos]] Strong Sad.
*The Cheat dresses as Strong Sad's [[Severed Body Parts|leg]].

===Real-World References===
*The picture of Jhonka is reminiscent of the various humanoid creatures in [[Wikipedia:Dungeons & Dragons|Dungeons and Dragons]].
**In previous versions of Dungeons and Dragons, an armor class of +2 would be a decent defense rating. However, in the current incarnation of Dungeons and Dragons it would make the creature very easy to hit in combat. The article's tone seems to indicate that it was written for 2nd edition AD&D.
*In the bigger butt Easter egg, Strong Bad drew the [[Wikipedia:Kangol|Kangol]] kangaroo above his cap. Kangol is a British clothier famous for this kind of hat.

===Fast Forward===
*The Jhonka plays a prominent role in [[Peasant's Quest]].
*Homestar also uses, "Oh... Some animal died" in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]].
*[[The Deathly Pallor]] will later become the name of Strong Sad's radio persona in [[radio]]. It is also used in the email [[trading cards]].
*The King of Town again demonstrates his low, one-man "boooo" in [[geddup noise]] after showing "The Standing Up Noise" and again in [[ever and more!]].

== DVD Version ==
*All of the Easter eggs in this email are viewable using the angle button on your DVD remote.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail82.html|watch "impression"]]
*[[HR:sbemail82.swf|view the Flash file for "impression"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]]

HRWiki talk:FAQ

2008-01-10T23:36:06Z

Dynamite: /* Username question */

Have a question? Post it here and we will try to answer it as soon as possible.

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== Editing Problems ==

The "Edit Button" on a page I'm creating has gome away but I want to add more. What do I do?
:There should be an edit tab at the tippy-top of the page regardless of there not being an [edit] button. Hope this helps. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:27, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

== Email Tryouts: Pass or Fail? ==

How do I know if I officially passed of failed. I just got a reply that said '''Pa-pa-pa-pass'''. Is this an official pass or just an opinion?

:...Are we talking about the email tryouts on Fanstuff? If so, here is not the place. You should bring it up on the Email tryouts talk page. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 00:24, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

== UTC ==

What does (UTC) mean?
:Coordinated Universal Time. More information [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time here]. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 00:28, 2 June :2007 (UTC)

== How can you tell? ==

I was wondering, how can you tell if people are sysops?
:Go [[Special:Listusers/sysop|here]] for a list of sysops. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 03:21, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

== "Reverted edit N by User (Talk) (reason)" ==

I see this particular message all the time in edit histories, usually when someone reverts vandalism. However, unless I type it out manually and go to find the edit number myself, I never seem to get that message when I go to revert. Is that message the result of some sysop-only feature? Or is it a button or automatic function I've somehow missed? Just curious. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:09, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

:That's the "undo revision" feature, [[HRWiki:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.9#Undo revision|new in MediaWiki 1.9]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:27, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

::Really? I've seen messages in that format a lot longer than MediaWiki 1.9 has been around. Odd... {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:43, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

:::You may be remembering the rollback feature, which has been available to sysops for a while and leaves a similar message, but the undo function just came out and is available to all users. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:47, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

::::Ah, I see. That explains it - thanks. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:48, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

== UB question ==

can you create your own Userboxes? If so do the pictures you put in them automaticly format so they are small?[[User:Foogs|Foogs]] 14:05, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

:Yes, you can create your own userboxes, provided that they are Homestar Runner-related. Images are not automatically formatted, but you can do it by specifying the the width of the image like so: <code><nowiki>[[Image:FILENAME|41px]]</nowiki></code> (the number of pixels might need to be tweaked depending on the height of the image. Hope that helps, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:46, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help i just made one. is it allowed to put it on the UB page?[[User:Foogs|Foogs]] 14:54, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

:Sure — if you think other people would be interested in using it, go ahead and add it to [[HRWiki:Userbox]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:28, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

== Are you allowed to have images on your page? ==

Are you allowed to have images on your userpage here? Because some other wikis don't allow that unless they're personal images. I think it would be a good idea to ask first. {{User:Zapdos/sig}} 01:16, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:Sure, go right ahead! You can use pretty much any image you want, even another user's personal image. Speaking of personal images, you are only allowed to have two of them. See our [[HRWiki:Personal images|personal image policy]] for more info. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:23, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== Why is my comment getting "STUFFED"? ==

I tried twice to add an entry under "Real-World References," but my comment was immediately deleted. I actually wasn't the only one; someone else tried to add a similar comment and couldn't. Any idea why? {{unsigned|Maristredfox|13:29, 28 June 2007 (UTC)}}
:It's because we have to vote on it before it can get put up. But, it will probably be accepted. {{User:The thing/sig}} 13:41, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
::<s>Actually, we have [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/Ever and More!#Bubs Rubb|already voted]] on that one. It was overwhemingly declined.</s> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:01, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
:::It's been temporarily reinstated to allow you to participate, and your vote has been recorded. I wouldn't hold my breath, though. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:09, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

== Why don't we have a commons? ==

You know, like the Wikipedia one. [[User:Homsar44withpie|Homsar44withpie]] 16:12, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

:We don't need one. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:14, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

::I think it's a good idea. I already submitted it on Da Basement. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 23:07, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

== forum troubles ==

i tried to find an admin to ask this through the forums but could not find a way to contact, besides through the wiki.

anyway, i have been trying to access my account for a while now (on the forums) and every time i log in it tells me that it is inactive, i am not sure what that means besides the fact that I cannot log into my account. if anyone has the knowledge of what i could do, or has the power to fix it, that would be grand.

my username is coopoo18
coopoo18@gmail.com

==Userboxes==
how do I make user boxes?
:See [[HRWiki:Userbox]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:04, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

== how do you make the userboxes normal? ==

i put userboxes on my user page, but it looks kind of freakish and not like other user pages' pages
[[User:Kermit1234|Kermit1234]] 03:18, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
:They look normal to me. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 03:21, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

::Hey there, Kermit1234 — I {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Kermit1234&diff=510165&oldid=510164 fixed them}} for you. For the benefit of others who might have the same problem (it's pretty common, from what I've seen), I'll post part of my reply on your talk page here:
<blockquote>
To fix them, I put each userbox on a separate line, added <code><nowiki>{{userboxtop}}</nowiki></code> on a line above them all, and added <code><nowiki>|}</nowiki></code> on a line below them all.
</blockquote>
::Hope that helps, and see you around! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:24, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

== two little questions about images ==

hello again FAQ page

1. Can I use someone else's personal signature picture in mine?

2. Which thing do i select under Licensing (on the upload page) if i made the image myself and it doesn't have any copyrighted stuff on it?

thanks a bunch
{{User:Kermit1234/sig}} 18:15, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
: 1 - You can't. It's their image.

: 2 - I'd put it under the copyright of "Promotional photo". Unless anybody disagrees. Hope this helps you. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:21, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
::Hey there, Kermit. The answer to you questions depends on a couple things:

::1. As long as the personal image is a Homestar Runner image, then you ''can'' use it for yourself. The intellectual property doesn't belong to whomever's personal image it is. If it's something they actually made themselves, then you'd have to ask permission from them, though.

::2. I would probably pick "Used with permission". That one's safe, even if one of the others would fit better.

::Hope that helps, and let me know if you have a question about a particular image. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:24, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

== redirect ==

um...how do you create a redirect page? I want to create a page called [[RC]] that redirects to my userpage, since I'm sometimes known as RC instead of {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 21:13, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
:Sorry, I don't think users are allowed to have redirects. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 21:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

::They aren't. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

== another question ==

Um...there's a line going through the top of my userbox, how do I fix this? {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 21:28, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
:And what is the (top) for on my list of [[Special:Contributions/Religious Corn|Contributions]]? {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 21:34, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
::It is the most recent edit to a certain page. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 21:36, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
:::More specifically, it means that your edit to that page (those labeled with "top") is the last edit made on that page. Same thing applies when looking at other people's contributions. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:47, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

== __yeseditsection__ ==

Why is there a <nowiki>__NOEDITSECTION__</nowiki> on the FAQ? That just makes the page harder to edit. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 12:20, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
:The FAQ page is meant to inform new useers. <nowiki>__NOEDITSECTION__</nowiki> allows the (EDIT) links to be hidden, improving readability. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

== Translations! ==

I was wondering: When I translate the sbEmails' subtitles, do I have to make intentional grammar mistakes, like the ones in the real email?

:If translating that way will keep the translation true to the original, then yes, include them. I'm not sure if we include the ''[sic]'' notation in subtitles, but this is where it would be applicable. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 00:49, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

::So, If the grammatical error aren't vital for the storyline of the toon, I should put it correct?--[[User:Dicai|We do what we must, because we can!]] 00:54, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Remember, we are transcribing the spoken words, which should always be spelled correctly unless an intentional reference to the poor spelling (i.e., a weird pronumciation or such) is made. The apostrophe song might not make any sense in a foreign language without apostrophes, for example, so it's going to be impossible to perfectly make the transcript make sense in all cases, so best to be accurate to what was said. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:13, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Personally, if I can't find a good equivalent in Hebrew for a mistake (like [[-èd]]), I don't make the extra effort to make one up. Remember that when someone who don't know English is watching the toon, the subtitles come by fact and don't have time to figure out to complicated stuff. If you start explaining the joke within the text, or try to poorly translate it, the viewer is just going to end up confused. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:18, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

== Are we sending The Brothers Chaps a 2007 Decemberween(Christmas) card? ==

If so, I want to sign it. realy. realy. badly. [[User:Haldo|Haldo]] 20:49, 11 November 2007 (UTC) {{user:haldo}}

:We already discussed the slippery slope that would ensue if we began sending The Brothers Chaps cards for every occasion. We're not sending them a card for anything other than their birthdays. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:54, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
::And even then we're not making it a habit. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:02, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
:::'K, how will i sign the card once their birthdays come around

== How do I make text and other things stay on the right of a page? ==

How? - [[User:1-Up Cheatachu|1-Up Cheatachu]] 20:13, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
:You can use the <nowiki><div></nowiki> tag, specifically:
<pre>
<div style="text-align:right">
right-aligned stuff goes here
</div>
</pre>
— {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 20:18, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

How do I align, say, a Userbox to the right side? - [[User:1-Up Cheatachu|1-Up Cheatachu]] 20:22, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
:If you use {{tl|userboxtop}}, it should align right by default. To do that, just put <nowiki>{{userboxtop}}</nowiki> (instead of <code>{|</code>) above your list of desired userboxes, but remember you'll still need the closing <code>|}</code>. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 20:36, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

== Typo correct... ==

If you find a typo or misspelling on a user page is it against the rules to correct it? should i just notify the user if i do? [[User:Poopskin|Poopskin]] 18:07, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
:That's a tough decision. It is against the rules to edit another user's page, but I think fixing minor errors is allowed. It's also good to say in your edit summary why you edited the page, like "fixed spelling" or "fixed formatting" or something like that. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 14:23, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
:Misspellings are generally not something you'd want to correct yourself. If there's a single word or character that has wrecked the entire page's formatting, which happens more often than you'd think, then you can go ahead and fix it at that point. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:53, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
:I personally would only edit a user's page in cases where the page rendering is ruined due to a mistake. A simple misspelling isn't something important enough to merit breaking the "don't edit other user's pages" rule, in my opinion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:02, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
::I would hate it if someone edited MY userpage to correct MY typos. Do I know whether you would you mind if I edited YOUR page to do fix it? No, I wouldn't and therefore I don't. But what you can do instead is send that user a message informing of the typo so they can fix it themselves. [[User talk:The Chort#SB Email 51|See my talk page]] for an example. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 21:25, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

== Fonts ==

hello again,
I'm improving my signature with a new fonts and i need a list of different fonts I can try (this is also a good thing to put on any of the Help:Signature pages if you have the answer.) I checked Wikipedia, but some of the fonts don't work here.
Thanks a bunch,
{{User:Kermit1234/sig}} 02:53, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
:For a font to "work", you need it to be on your computer and also on everyone else's computer. If you use a font I don't have, your sig will appear in the default font on my screen. It has nothing to do with the wiki and everything to do with whether the user has that specific font installed on his machine. Thus, any font can work here, provided again it's on everyone's computer. Bottom line is, not many fonts are that universal, so you will surely find some users cannot see your sig as intended. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:02, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
::There are, however, a few magic words in CSS for certain types of fonts, namely sans-serif, serif, monospace, fantasy and script... which exact font they appear as will change from system to system, but they'll always do ''something''. They might not be that useful alone in a sig, if you want something fancy, but you can always go <code><nowiki></nowiki></code>... which'll pick one of those two fonts if the person looking at your sig has them, or fall back to sans-serif if they don't... it's the best you can do. Fonts are tricky things, fonts on the web even trickier. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:30, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I would avoid fantasy and script, as they are poorly supported even among rather compliant user agents. (My installs of Opera and Firefox do nothing special foreither of these.) Serif, sans-serif and monospace will succeed in nearly all cases, though. They should be listed last in a font-family property. Ex. <nowiki>Text</nowiki> yields Text. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:08, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

== How did this wiki start? ==

How did this wiki start?--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 21:30, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

:See [[HRWiki:A History]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:32, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

== General questions/ideas ==
Is there a place to, like, talk about general ideas for the wiki and stuff? Like, "Hey, I think we should have a page about [X]. What do you guys think?" etc?
:Usually [[Talk:Main Page]] is a good place for that. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 11:14, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Signed on ==

Is there a special page where you can find out which users are signed on? If not, is there a way to make one? {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 22:20, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:Although it is technically possible, it's not something we're pursuing. See [[HRFWiki:User talk:It's dot com#Who's Online?]] for further commentary. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:45, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== exchange ==

Ordered the wrong size shirts. How do we exchange for a different size?
:We're not homestarrunner.com, we're just a wiki that documents the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|H*R oeuvre]]. But here's an answer to your question: head [http://homestarrunner.stores.yahoo.net/cusser.html here] on the real website. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

== Is there a way to keep someone from editing my articles? ==

If there is, I'd like to know how. I wrote the article about Strong Bad changing the topic of his e-mails, and I liked it the way it was, but somebody changed all of it and I think it has less information. I also can't change it back. Is there a way to fix it or keep people from editing it? Thnikky
:Well, you see, Thnikky, this is a [[Wikipedia:wiki|wiki]]. ''Anyone'' can edit pretty much ''any'' article, and we don't protect articles just for the benefit of one editor. You can access the previous versions of a page using the history tab at the top. From there, you can get elements from old versions and combine them with the current version, or revert to an older version altogether (note, we don't usually revert big changes except in cases of vandalism; instead, we try to keep the best parts of all the versions). Hope that helps! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:25, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

== Putting unfinished signs on ==

I haven't finished one of my articles, and I've seen a lot of these box-things that say if an article isn't finished. As for mine, I haven't had much time to work on it, how do I put one of those boxes on there? ([[User:Dynamite|Dynamite]] 10:41, 4 January 2008 (UTC))
:Type <nowiki>{{stub}}</nowiki>. Use <nowiki>{{sectionstub}}</nowiki> when it's just a section that's unfinished. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 11:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

== Edit Problems ==

I can't edit the top part of some articles. Like the descriptions and all that, how can I fix one of those? [[Thnikky]] 03:26, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:Rather than clicking "edit" in the article itself, scroll to the very top of the page and click it there. It's the third tab from the left. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 03:50, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Username question ==

Why does the HR wiki ask that usernames can't be directly named after Homestar Runner characters? Thanks! Thnikky Oh, sorry about all the questions. I'm just a little new to editing and everything (but I've been using hrwiki.org since 2005)

HRWiki talk:FAQ

2008-01-10T23:34:29Z

Dynamite: /**/Username question

Coach Z

2008-01-10T22:33:28Z

Dynamite: /* Biography */

{{charnav|Coach Z|cz|Marzipan|Bubs}}
[[Image:coach-z.png|thumb|right|200px|"You can't just rush into the score zone!"]]

==Biography==
'''Coach Z''' is the "[[Wikipedia:Coach (sport)|coach]]" of the residents of [[Free Country, USA]], though it is unclear exactly which sports he coaches. He has a strong [[Wikipedia:Upper Midwest|Upper Midwestern]] [[Wikipedia:North Central American English|accent]] which sometimes gets him into trouble. He almost never says anything negative to anyone, and he often offers more encouragement than is needed. When giving advice, he tends to start with the phrase "You can't just rush into the score zone", which by now has lost its meaning. He wears a baseball cap and is famous for the large Z emblem around his waist, but nobody knows for sure whether his bright green color is his skin or a body suit. However, [[Middle School Variation#Baby Coach Z|baby Coach Z]] seems to be wearing footy pajamas in the email [[highschool]], and on more than one occasion, Coach Z has mentioned his [[pants]].

[[Image:Coach z butt.PNG|thumb|Coach Z talking about his butt.]]
As Coach Z himself is not afraid to admit, he's got [[Who Said What Now?|more than two problems]]. Despite being a coach, he doesn't know what a basketball is, as indicated in [[secret recipes]]. It has been implied that he has a crush on [[Marzipan]], and he has occasionally made inappropriate comments about her; [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0#Message 6|one occasion]] [[Marzipan's Answering Machine|on her answering machine]] when he was drunk, and another during the commercial break of the 4Tst annual [[Fall Float Parade]]. In fact, in [[diorama]], he claims that Marzipan is his "gorgeous girlfriend". He also cannot say the word "job", as shown in the "A Jorb Well Done" cartoon. He sometimes may pronounce it as "jorb", "jaerb", or "jareoarb". He has a drinking problem and can frequently be seen consuming [[Listerine|mouthwash]], as seen in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] and [[Decemberween Short Shorts]], among other appearances. In addition to his frequent mispronunciations, Coach Z also seems to have mental and gender confusion problems, as evidenced by the time he spent "talking to his parents" on a [[disconnected telephone]], and claiming to be a mother in [[garage sale]]. He has even stated on [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 8.0|one occasion]] that he sometimes "forgets what's real, and what's just in [his] head". He also has trouble managing his money, causing his electricity to be shut off each year. He has an apparent fixation with [[butts]], and he seems to have a habit with [[butt-patting]]. He was told by [[Homestar Runner]] in Decemberween Short Shorts to not tell people about his butt when they asked him "What's up". He works with Homestar Runner and [[Bubs]] as the apparent [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|local law enforcement]] in [[Free Country, USA]], and he makes frequent jokes and references about pants, whether his own or someone else's. In recent cartoons it appears that Coach Z is the janitor at [[the office]] where Homestar and Strong Bad work. He is paid on hourly wage and is clearly jealous that [[Strong Bad]] is paid on salary. Many characters see him as a nuisance, and even Homestar has treated Coach Z with contempt in Decemberween Short Shorts, where Coach Z wants to go to Homestar's house for Decemberween, and Homestar replies with a "no" (numerous times).

[[Image:Babycz.PNG|thumb|left|115px|The craptain of the foortball torm!]]
Coach Z is a fan of hip-hop and rap music, particularly the [[Wikipedia:Wu-Tang Clan|Wu-Tang Clan]]. He fancies himself a rapper as well: He released the single "[[These Peoples Try to Fade Me]]," which appeared on [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]], his solo album, entitled "The Z Is All Up Ins", features the smash hit "[[New Boots|Hip Hop Dance]]", and his own rap song, "[[Rap Song]]" (featuring [[Peacey P]] and [[Tenerence Love]]).

Coach Z's [[Ages of Characters|age]] is ambiguous, as he appears to be grown up when Strong Bad was a kid in the email [[stand-up]], while they both appeared to be babies in the email [[highschool]] (although Strong Bad said that [[History According to Strong Bad|he had a "doodle memory".]]).

Coach Z and [[Bubs]] [[Bubs and Coach Z's Relationship|had a falling out]] at one point, as [[Fall Float Parade]] tells us. But as of the email [[narrator]] it seems they're back to having boring conversations outside [[Bubs' Concession Stand]].

Coach Z owns 4 [[Wikipedia:Tony Award|Tony awards]] but it is unknown if he actually won them.

*'''Domicile:''' [[Coach Z's Locker Room]]
*'''Debut:''' "[[Where My Hat Is At?]]"
*[[:Category:Coach Z Filmography|Complete Filmography]]
<gallery>Image:coachzs Z.png|Coach Z's emblem
Image:oldcoach.PNG|Youthful days
Image:Coach Z- no hat.PNG|Hatless
Image:ZsNewMedallion.png|His emblem, squished/skewed/turned all around (from [[redesign]])</gallery>

== Character Video Transcript ==
''{'''Page Title''': Drop Down and Gimme 20!!}'' ''{'''Places:''' [[Coach Z's Locker Room]]}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{looking slightly offscreen}'' Is that thing on? ''{turns to the camera lens}'' Hey there, ho there! I'm the Coach! The Coach Z, I'd guess you'd call me. Or plain old Coach is fine, seein' as I'm the only one around, so, probably no one else would answer to that. You say "Hey Coach!", and I'd say "Yeah?" or..."That's me!" or..."Hoo-hah!" ''{waves his arms in the air}'' Any one of those. There's rumors flyin' around that I sleep in one of these lockers ''{gestures to the lockers behind him}'', but uh, that's just not true. I usually crash on this bench here. ''{gestures to the bench behind him}'' My back's not in real good condition. ''{rubs his back}'' And now, I'd like to perform my hip-hop single, "These peoples try to fade me." ''{holds up a microphone, begins to sing}'' A one-two, a one-two—!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{appears in front of camera}'' Sorry. We're all out of tape.

==Coach Z's Accent==
The primary factor in his hilarity, Coach Z's Upper Midwestern accent has made him into a very quotable character.

===Sounds Affected===
The most commonly mispronounced sounds are long e (i.e. The Cheat) and the short o (job), which both come out as an "or" or "aer" ("The Chort", "jaerb").

===List of mispronounced words===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width=100% style="border-collapse:collapse;"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Original Word !! Coach Z's version(s) !! Appears In
|-
| '''About''' || Abrat || [[No Hands On Deck!]]
|-
| '''Accent''' || Orccent/Accernt || [[Accent]]
|-
| '''Action''' || Airkshin || [[Happy Fireworks]], [[Main Page 23]]
|-
| '''Awful''' || Orful || Email [[secret recipes]]
|-
| '''Balloon''' || b'lloon || [[Fall Float Parade]]
|-
| '''Bomb''' || Baermb || [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], [[These peoples try to fade me]]
|-
| '''Captain''' || [[Media:Highschool 6.ogg|Craptain]] || Email [[highschool]]
|-
| '''Chips''' || Chorps || [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]
|-
| '''[[Crap]]''' || Crop || [[Accent]]
|-
| '''Credenza''' || Cradernza || [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]
|-
| '''Crickets''' || Crackets || [[Happy Hallow-day]]
|-
| '''Cubicle''' || Kyorbicle || [[DNA Evidence (Toon)|DNA Evidence]]
|-
| '''[[Decemberween]]''' || Decemberwern || [[The Best Decemberween Ever]]
|-
| '''[[DELETED]]''' || DELORTED || Email [[replacement]]
|-
| '''Did''' || Doird || [[Dangeresque (karaoke)]]
|-
| '''Disco''' || Disca || [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]]
|-
| '''Drop''' || Drap || Email [[your funeral]]
|-
| '''Duck''' || Dook || [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]]
|-
| '''Exaggerate''' || Exorggerate || [[Accent]]
|-
| '''[[Fhqwhgads]]''' || Forhorgalingrads || Email [[sibbie]] (Easter Egg)
|-
| '''Field''' || Fierld || [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 1.0]]
|-
| '''Five''' || Farve || [[A Decemberween Pageant]]
|-
| '''Flapjacks''' || Florpjacks || [[Accent]]
|-
| '''Football Team''' || Foortball Torm || Email [[highschool]]
|-
| '''Forgot to putt''' || Forgort to port, forgat to prat, gorka fa pork || Email [[mini-golf]]
|-
| '''Gosh''' || Gorsh || Email [[strong badathlon]]
|-
| '''Gluten''' and '''Glutton''' || Glorten || [[Weclome Back]]
|-
| '''Halloween''' || Halloworn || [[The Best Decemberween Ever]]
|-
| '''Halloween''' || Hallerwern || [[Jibblies 2]]
|-
| '''Happy Hallow—''' || Horpy Horlow— || [[Happy Hallow-day]]
|-
| '''Happy T''' || Horpy Tor || [[Happy T!]]
|-
| '''Hello''' || Hellor || [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]
|-
| '''[[Homestar Runner|Homestar]]''' || Hamstray, Hamster, Stramstar, [http://www.stairmaster.com Stairmaster], Homegrown, [[Wikipedia:Ramrod|Ramrod]], Humphel || [[A Jorb Well Done]]
|-
| '''Hoot''' || Hort || [[Happy Hallow-day]]
|-
| '''I Feel Bad''' || Ir feer borld || Email [[part-time job#Commentary Transcript|part-time job (commentary)]]
|-
| '''Idea''' || Idear || [[Happy Hallow-day]]
|-
| '''Inappropriate''' || Inapprapriate || [[Fall Float Parade]]
|-
| '''Inoculate''' || Anorculate || [[The Brothers Chaps' Fansite Acknowledgments#Burning Horizon Forum|BHZ Anniversary Message]]
|-
| '''[[Jibblie]]''' || Jorbaly || [[Jibblies 2]]
|-
| '''Job''' || Jorb, Jaerb, Jarb, Joerghb, Jaeoreorb || [[A Jorb Well Done]], Email [[boring (really)]]
|-
| '''Jujyfruits''' || Jorjyfruits, Jerjyfrorts, Georgie Frorgie, [[Wikipedia:George Foreman|George Foreman]] || [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]
|-
| '''Laundry''' || Landry || [[Rap Song]]
|-
| '''[[Coach Z's Locker Room|Locker]]''' || Lacker, Lacquer || Email [[part-time job#Commentary Transcript|part-time job (commentary)]], Email [[myths & legends]] (Easter Egg)
|-
| '''Man''' || Marn || [[Dangeresque (karaoke)]]
|-
| '''[[Mike Chapman|Mike]]''' || Mork || Email [[part-time job#Commentary Transcript|part-time job (commentary)]]
|-
| '''Mother'''|| Mudder|| [[No Hands On Deck!]]
|-
| '''Mouthwash''' || Mouthwarsh || [[The Best Decemberween Ever]]
|-
| '''Musical''' || Myorsical || [[No Hands On Deck!]]
|-
| '''Not''' || Nat || [[Decemberween Short Shorts]], [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]]
|-
| '''October''' || Orctober || [[The Best Decemberween Ever]]
|-
| '''Office''' || Arfice || [[In Search of the Yello Dello New Version|In Search of the Yello Dello]]
|-
| '''Out''' || Oat || [[A Jorb Well Done]]
|-
| '''Party''' || Pratty || Email [[impression]]
|-
| '''[[Wikipedia:Pert Plus|Pert Plus]]''' || Port Plus || [[Jibblies 2]]
|-
| '''[[Pom Pom]]''' || Pam Pam || [[Fall Float Parade]]
|-
| '''Problem''' || Praeblem || [[In Search of the Yello Dello New Version|In Search of the Yello Dello]]
|-
| '''Rock bottom''' || Rack battom || [[Decemberween Short Shorts]]
|-
| '''Real''' || Rrrl || [[A Folky Tale]]
|-
| '''Revealed''' || Revearled || Email [[cliffhangers]]
|-
| '''Secret''' || Sorcret, "secret sorcret" || Email [[cliffhangers]]
|-
| '''Situation''' || Sitch'ation || [[A Folky Tale]]
|-
| '''Sports''' || Sprots || Email [[part-time job#Commentary Transcript|part-time job (commentary)]]
|-
| '''Stick''' || Stark || [[Dangeresque (karaoke)]]
|-
| '''Stop''' || Stap || [[Rap Song]]
|-
| '''Suck''' || Sook || [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]]
|-
| '''Swedish Fish''' || Swordish Feirsh || [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]
|-
| '''Talkin' about''' || Torkin' abort || [[Happy Hallow-day]]
|-
| '''Terrible''' || Terbirle || Email [[senior prom]]
|-

| '''[[The Cheat]]''' || The Chort || ''see [[Nicknames#The Cheat|Nicknames]]''
|-
| '''There''' || Dere, dare || Email [[lures & jigs]], [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]], Email [[theme park]], [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]]
|-
| '''Thousand''' || Trousand || [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]]
|-
| '''Thug''' || Thorg || [[Halloween Fairstival]]
|-
| '''Thumb''' || Thermb || [[Some Stupid Turkey]]
|-
| '''[[Toilet]]''' || Terlet || [[Halloween Fairstival]], [[A Folky Tale]], [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] (Bubs, Homestar), Email [[unnatural]]
|-
| '''Tomato''' || Tomater, "[[Quote of the Week#QW-2005-12-08|I zader matermorts]]" || [[Fall Float Parade]]

|-
| '''Trick or Treat''' || Track or Trort || [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]
|-
| '''Undefeated''' || Undeforted || [[Decemberween Short Shorts]]
|-
| '''Unfortunate''' || Unfarchunate || [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]]
|-
| '''Up''' || Arp || [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]]
|-
| '''What''' || Whort || [[Date Nite]]
|-
| '''Yipe''' || Yorp || Email [[redesign]]
|}

===Inconsistencies===

Evidence has suggested that Coach Z's accent may be bogus:
*After saying "track or trort" in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], Bubs gets on his case and he says it correctly. If given "Swedish Fish," said as "Swordish Forsh," Bubs gets on his case again and Coach Z says "It's a crowd-pleaser."
*In [[boring (really)]], while [[Strong Bad]] is writing his list of three-letter words, Coach Z interrupts him at the word "job", saying that "jorb is a four letters word."
*Coach Z says "The Cheat" immediately after "The Chort" in [[mascot]], though he speaks as though he's talking about two different people.
*In the DVD commentary for [[part-time job]], [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] exploits Coach Z's "accent" by implying that not only does Coach Z add the letter R to words, but now also likes to switch letters around sometimes, and in reply Coach Z partially admits to his accent being bogus.
*In [[cliffhangers]], in the process of his attempted unmasking of [[The Thnikkaman]], he says "secret sorcret" twice, referring to Thnikkaman's secret being revealed and his shame in having really bad hand-eye coordination.

===Featured in===
*[[A Jorb Well Done]]
*[[Coach Z Talker]]

==Coach Z's "more than two problems"==

*Despite being a coach, he doesn't know what a basketball is, as indicated in [[secret recipes]].
*He seems to have psychological problems. For example, in [[garage sale]], he is seen gathering up all the "great for baby" items, but is reluctant to explain why. When Strong Bad comments that "garbage sale" is "for moms only", Coach Z responds "Oh, then I'm okay to say it." In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 8.0]], he admits he sometimes forgets what's real and what's just in his head.
*His accent makes his speech almost incapable of comprehension.
*He has admitted that he has [[Wikipedia: athlete's foot|athlete's foot]]. This was further implied as "problems with his feet" in [[rampage]].
*He has mentioned he has a bad back in his characters page, in [[rampage]], and in [[slumber party]].
*He has been drunk multiple times, usually on mouthwash.
*He spiked the punch at the [[senior prom]] with mouthwash.
*He has bad hand-eye coordination, as evidenced in [[cliffhangers]].
*He has an obsession with butts.
*He holds the record for the longest time gone without [[showering]].
*He admits he likes a good chafe in [[theme park]].
*He enjoys covering puke in sawdust, as seen in [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]], where he says "This is what I live for!" In the commentary for that scene, he claims that "Sawdust makes everything delicious".
*In [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]], he claims to only know a few words, such as "pfargtl". In the commentary for that scene, he claims "pfargtl" is his favorite animal, and he had a "p-family pfargtl" when he was a kid.
*He wears a disturbingly small bathing suit when swimming and leaks a black fluid when it is removed, as seen in [[underlings]].
*He has a weak imagination.
*He fancies himself as a hip-hop artist, but has little musical talent.
*It has been implied that he has a crush on Marzipan; he has occasionally made inappropriate comments about her and has admitted to sneaking into her house.
*He has personal financial problems (due to his apparent job as a janitor), causing his electricity to be shut off each year.
*He seems to believe he's in a relationship with Bubs, as seen in [[Date Nite]].
*He has slight memory loss, as seen in [[mini-golf]].
*Even when he finds something he's eating awful, such as [[secret recipes|a bowl of sour cream and The Cheat fur]], he still eats it.
*He has puked his pants many times.
*His [[hygiene]] habits are so poor that at one point, he believed that the shower heads in his locker room were his "drippy, broken speakers".
*He likes topical ointments.
*He carries a bottle of questionable water with him at all times for questionable reasons.
*He believes that in "the 74's were the prime of his dating year, and that back then every lady would go out with anything that had a mustache".
*He believes that a sketch of a cell phone is his real cell phone.
*He cooks a hot dog from a shower in [[environment]], thinking he is cooking with hydroelectricity.

== Fun Facts ==
*Coach Z's accent came from a depressing Midwestern voice that [[Matt Chapman|Matt]] and some friends would do in college.
*It was revealed in issue #21 of [[Wonkavision Magazine Interview|Wonkavision]] magazine that Coach Z is named after [[Craig Zobel]].
*According to [[trading cards]], Coach Z gave 23 [[Butt-Patting|butt pats]] in 1984 (22 to Homestar, 1 to himself).
*Coach Z was originally known as "Coach Zee."
*Strong Bad referred to Coach Z as "Green Bubs" in the email [[road trip]].
*In [[Date Nite]] he is shown without his hat and wearing hair curlers, despite a lack of visible hair.
*On Coach Z's emblem, the darker blue shine streak under the gold Z makes a Z formation.
*According to the [[Old Characters Page]], Coach Z wasn't much of a coach at the time, and he just added the title because it sounded "cooler than just Z". He has been seen coaching on numerous occasions since then, though his talent at it is still dubious at best.

== Relationships ==
:''Main article: [[Character Relationships]]''
*[[Bubs and Coach Z's Relationship]]
*[[Strong Bad and Coach Z's Relationship]]
*[[Coach Z and Marzipan's Relationship]]

== Variations ==
*[[The Fort Wayne Locomotive]] ([[Old-Timey]])
*[[20X6 Coach Z]] ([[20X6]])
*[[Renaldo]] ([[Dangeresque (film series)|Dangeresque]])
*[[Zubs and Coach B|Coach B or Zubs]]
*[[Other Character Variations|Coach Zed]]
*[[Strong Badman Characters#Damp Towel Man|Damp Towel Man]]

=== [[Halloween Costumes]] ===
In each Homestar Runner Halloween special, Coach Z has dressed up as something hip-hop-related, or in the case of Theo Huxtable, something he believes to be hip-hop related. (The Noid costume was not released.)

*[[Wikipedia:Flavor Flav|Flavor Flav]] in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*[[Wikipedia:Shock G|Humpty Hump]] in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*[[Wikipedia:Christopher "Kid" Reid|Kid]] in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*[[Wikipedia:Kool Moe Dee|Kool Moe Dee]] in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
*[[Wikipedia:Tupac Shakur|Tupac]] in [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*Theo Huxtable (from [[Wikipedia:The Cosby Show|The Cosby Show]]) in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]].
*[[Wikipedia:Queen Latifah|Queen Latifah]] in [[Happy Hallow-day]].
*[[Wikipedia:So So Def Recordings|So So Def Recordings Logo]] in [[Jibblies 2]].

==Quotes of the Week==
{{qotwstart}}
*{{qotw|"Coach Z, R-A-P. Accidentally featuring Peacey P..." ''{entire "Rap Song"}''|[[Rap Song]]|HR:weeklies/rapsong.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"I feel like that school child on the first day of Christmas!"|[[Rap Song]] outtake|Mirror:cz schoolchild.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Oh. I guess I forgort to port. Oh! I guess I forgat to prat! OH! Gorka fa pork!"|[[mini-golf]]|Mirror:cz forgortport.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"You say tomater, I zader madermorts."|[[Fall Float Parade]]|Mirror:cz tomater.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"IT'S DAZZLE-MAZING!!"|[[Happy Fireworks]]|Mirror:cz dazzlemaze.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Once again, [[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]] slips through our fingers!"|[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]|Mirror:cz slipthrufingers.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"It was Biscuit Dough Hands Man! I knew it!!"|[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]|Mirror:cz bdhman.zip}}
*{{qotw|"My name is Coach Z. Pronounced with an 'oach Z'."|[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]|Mirror:cz oachz.mp3}}
|}

==See Also==
*[[Coach Z Evolution]]
*[[Coach Z Other Costumes|Other Costumes]]
*[[Nicknames#Coach Z|Nicknames]]

== External Links ==
* [[HR:vcr cz.html|watch Coach Z's character video]]
* [[HR:vcr cz.swf|view the Flash file for Coach Z's character video]]

{{Characters|Coach Z}}

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Coach Z

2008-01-10T22:32:11Z

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[[Image:coach-z.png|thumb|right|200px|"You can't just rush into the score zone!"]]

==Biography==
'''Coach Z''' is the "[[Wikipedia:Coach (sport)|coach]]" of the residents of [[Free Country, USA]], though it is unclear exactly which sports he coaches. He has a strong [[Wikipedia:Upper Midwest|Upper Midwestern]] [[Wikipedia:North Central American English|accent]] which sometimes gets him into trouble. He almost never says anything negative to anyone, and he often offers more encouragement than is needed. When giving advice, he tends to start with the phrase "You can't just rush into the score zone", which by now has lost its meaning. He wears a baseball cap and is famous for the large Z emblem around his waist, but nobody knows for sure whether his bright green color is his skin or a body suit. However, [[Middle School Variation#Baby Coach Z|baby Coach Z]] seems to be wearing footy pajamas in the email [[highschool]], and on more than one occasion, Coach Z has mentioned his [[pants]].

[[Image:Coach z butt.PNG|thumb|Coach Z talking about his butt.]]
As Coach Z himself is not afraid to admit, he's got [[Who Said What Now?|more than two problems]]. Despite being a coach, he doesn't know what a basketball is, as indicated in [[secret recipes]]. It has been implied that he has a crush on [[Marzipan]], and he has occasionally made inappropriate comments about her; [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0#Message 6|one occasion]] [[Marzipan's Answering Machine|on her answering machine]] when he was [[drunk]], and another during the commercial break of the 4Tst annual [[Fall Float Parade]]. In fact, in [[diorama]], he claims that Marzipan is his "gorgeous girlfriend". He also cannot say the word "job", as shown in the "A Jorb Well Done" cartoon. He sometimes may pronounce it as "jorb", "jaerb", or "jareoarb". He has a drinking problem and can frequently be seen consuming [[Listerine|mouthwash]], as seen in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] and [[Decemberween Short Shorts]], among other appearances. In addition to his frequent mispronunciations, Coach Z also seems to have mental and gender confusion problems, as evidenced by the time he spent "talking to his parents" on a [[disconnected telephone]], and claiming to be a mother in [[garage sale]]. He has even stated on [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 8.0|one occasion]] that he sometimes "forgets what's real, and what's just in [his] head". He also has trouble managing his money, causing his electricity to be shut off each year. He has an apparent fixation with butts, and he seems to have a habit with [[butt-patting]]. He was told by [[Homestar Runner]] in Decemberween Short Shorts to not tell people about his butt when they asked him "What's up". He works with Homestar Runner and [[Bubs]] as the apparent [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|local law enforcement]] in [[Free Country, USA]], and he makes frequent jokes and references about pants, whether his own or someone else's. In recent cartoons it appears that Coach Z is the janitor at [[the office]] where Homestar and Strong Bad work. He is paid on hourly wage and is clearly jealous that [[Strong Bad]] is paid on salary. Many characters see him as a nuisance, and even Homestar has treated Coach Z with contempt in Decemberween Short Shorts, where Coach Z wants to go to Homestar's house for Decemberween, and Homestar replies with a "no" (numerous times).

[[Image:Babycz.PNG|thumb|left|115px|The craptain of the foortball torm!]]
Coach Z is a fan of hip-hop and rap music, particularly the [[Wikipedia:Wu-Tang Clan|Wu-Tang Clan]]. He fancies himself a rapper as well: He released the single "[[These Peoples Try to Fade Me]]," which appeared on [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]], his solo album, entitled "The Z Is All Up Ins", features the smash hit "[[New Boots|Hip Hop Dance]]", and his own rap song, "[[Rap Song]]" (featuring [[Peacey P]] and [[Tenerence Love]]).

Coach Z's [[Ages of Characters|age]] is ambiguous, as he appears to be grown up when Strong Bad was a kid in the email [[stand-up]], while they both appeared to be babies in the email [[highschool]] (although Strong Bad said that [[History According to Strong Bad|he had a "doodle memory".]]).

Coach Z and [[Bubs]] [[Bubs and Coach Z's Relationship|had a falling out]] at one point, as [[Fall Float Parade]] tells us. But as of the email [[narrator]] it seems they're back to having boring conversations outside [[Bubs' Concession Stand]].

Coach Z owns 4 [[Wikipedia:Tony Award|Tony awards]] but it is unknown if he actually won them.

*'''Domicile:''' [[Coach Z's Locker Room]]
*'''Debut:''' "[[Where My Hat Is At?]]"
*[[:Category:Coach Z Filmography|Complete Filmography]]
<gallery>Image:coachzs Z.png|Coach Z's emblem
Image:oldcoach.PNG|Youthful days
Image:Coach Z- no hat.PNG|Hatless
Image:ZsNewMedallion.png|His emblem, squished/skewed/turned all around (from [[redesign]])</gallery>

== Character Video Transcript ==
''{'''Page Title''': Drop Down and Gimme 20!!}'' ''{'''Places:''' [[Coach Z's Locker Room]]}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{looking slightly offscreen}'' Is that thing on? ''{turns to the camera lens}'' Hey there, ho there! I'm the Coach! The Coach Z, I'd guess you'd call me. Or plain old Coach is fine, seein' as I'm the only one around, so, probably no one else would answer to that. You say "Hey Coach!", and I'd say "Yeah?" or..."That's me!" or..."Hoo-hah!" ''{waves his arms in the air}'' Any one of those. There's rumors flyin' around that I sleep in one of these lockers ''{gestures to the lockers behind him}'', but uh, that's just not true. I usually crash on this bench here. ''{gestures to the bench behind him}'' My back's not in real good condition. ''{rubs his back}'' And now, I'd like to perform my hip-hop single, "These peoples try to fade me." ''{holds up a microphone, begins to sing}'' A one-two, a one-two—!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{appears in front of camera}'' Sorry. We're all out of tape.

==Coach Z's Accent==
The primary factor in his hilarity, Coach Z's Upper Midwestern accent has made him into a very quotable character.

===Sounds Affected===
The most commonly mispronounced sounds are long e (i.e. The Cheat) and the short o (job), which both come out as an "or" or "aer" ("The Chort", "jaerb").

===List of mispronounced words===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width=100% style="border-collapse:collapse;"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Original Word !! Coach Z's version(s) !! Appears In
|-
| '''About''' || Abrat || [[No Hands On Deck!]]
|-
| '''Accent''' || Orccent/Accernt || [[Accent]]
|-
| '''Action''' || Airkshin || [[Happy Fireworks]], [[Main Page 23]]
|-
| '''Awful''' || Orful || Email [[secret recipes]]
|-
| '''Balloon''' || b'lloon || [[Fall Float Parade]]
|-
| '''Bomb''' || Baermb || [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], [[These peoples try to fade me]]
|-
| '''Captain''' || [[Media:Highschool 6.ogg|Craptain]] || Email [[highschool]]
|-
| '''Chips''' || Chorps || [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]
|-
| '''[[Crap]]''' || Crop || [[Accent]]
|-
| '''Credenza''' || Cradernza || [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]
|-
| '''Crickets''' || Crackets || [[Happy Hallow-day]]
|-
| '''Cubicle''' || Kyorbicle || [[DNA Evidence (Toon)|DNA Evidence]]
|-
| '''[[Decemberween]]''' || Decemberwern || [[The Best Decemberween Ever]]
|-
| '''[[DELETED]]''' || DELORTED || Email [[replacement]]
|-
| '''Did''' || Doird || [[Dangeresque (karaoke)]]
|-
| '''Disco''' || Disca || [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]]
|-
| '''Drop''' || Drap || Email [[your funeral]]
|-
| '''Duck''' || Dook || [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]]
|-
| '''Exaggerate''' || Exorggerate || [[Accent]]
|-
| '''[[Fhqwhgads]]''' || Forhorgalingrads || Email [[sibbie]] (Easter Egg)
|-
| '''Field''' || Fierld || [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 1.0]]
|-
| '''Five''' || Farve || [[A Decemberween Pageant]]
|-
| '''Flapjacks''' || Florpjacks || [[Accent]]
|-
| '''Football Team''' || Foortball Torm || Email [[highschool]]
|-
| '''Forgot to putt''' || Forgort to port, forgat to prat, gorka fa pork || Email [[mini-golf]]
|-
| '''Gosh''' || Gorsh || Email [[strong badathlon]]
|-
| '''Gluten''' and '''Glutton''' || Glorten || [[Weclome Back]]
|-
| '''Halloween''' || Halloworn || [[The Best Decemberween Ever]]
|-
| '''Halloween''' || Hallerwern || [[Jibblies 2]]
|-
| '''Happy Hallow—''' || Horpy Horlow— || [[Happy Hallow-day]]
|-
| '''Happy T''' || Horpy Tor || [[Happy T!]]
|-
| '''Hello''' || Hellor || [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]
|-
| '''[[Homestar Runner|Homestar]]''' || Hamstray, Hamster, Stramstar, [http://www.stairmaster.com Stairmaster], Homegrown, [[Wikipedia:Ramrod|Ramrod]], Humphel || [[A Jorb Well Done]]
|-
| '''Hoot''' || Hort || [[Happy Hallow-day]]
|-
| '''I Feel Bad''' || Ir feer borld || Email [[part-time job#Commentary Transcript|part-time job (commentary)]]
|-
| '''Idea''' || Idear || [[Happy Hallow-day]]
|-
| '''Inappropriate''' || Inapprapriate || [[Fall Float Parade]]
|-
| '''Inoculate''' || Anorculate || [[The Brothers Chaps' Fansite Acknowledgments#Burning Horizon Forum|BHZ Anniversary Message]]
|-
| '''[[Jibblie]]''' || Jorbaly || [[Jibblies 2]]
|-
| '''Job''' || Jorb, Jaerb, Jarb, Joerghb, Jaeoreorb || [[A Jorb Well Done]], Email [[boring (really)]]
|-
| '''Jujyfruits''' || Jorjyfruits, Jerjyfrorts, Georgie Frorgie, [[Wikipedia:George Foreman|George Foreman]] || [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]
|-
| '''Laundry''' || Landry || [[Rap Song]]
|-
| '''[[Coach Z's Locker Room|Locker]]''' || Lacker, Lacquer || Email [[part-time job#Commentary Transcript|part-time job (commentary)]], Email [[myths & legends]] (Easter Egg)
|-
| '''Man''' || Marn || [[Dangeresque (karaoke)]]
|-
| '''[[Mike Chapman|Mike]]''' || Mork || Email [[part-time job#Commentary Transcript|part-time job (commentary)]]
|-
| '''Mother'''|| Mudder|| [[No Hands On Deck!]]
|-
| '''Mouthwash''' || Mouthwarsh || [[The Best Decemberween Ever]]
|-
| '''Musical''' || Myorsical || [[No Hands On Deck!]]
|-
| '''Not''' || Nat || [[Decemberween Short Shorts]], [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]]
|-
| '''October''' || Orctober || [[The Best Decemberween Ever]]
|-
| '''Office''' || Arfice || [[In Search of the Yello Dello New Version|In Search of the Yello Dello]]
|-
| '''Out''' || Oat || [[A Jorb Well Done]]
|-
| '''Party''' || Pratty || Email [[impression]]
|-
| '''[[Wikipedia:Pert Plus|Pert Plus]]''' || Port Plus || [[Jibblies 2]]
|-
| '''[[Pom Pom]]''' || Pam Pam || [[Fall Float Parade]]
|-
| '''Problem''' || Praeblem || [[In Search of the Yello Dello New Version|In Search of the Yello Dello]]
|-
| '''Rock bottom''' || Rack battom || [[Decemberween Short Shorts]]
|-
| '''Real''' || Rrrl || [[A Folky Tale]]
|-
| '''Revealed''' || Revearled || Email [[cliffhangers]]
|-
| '''Secret''' || Sorcret, "secret sorcret" || Email [[cliffhangers]]
|-
| '''Situation''' || Sitch'ation || [[A Folky Tale]]
|-
| '''Sports''' || Sprots || Email [[part-time job#Commentary Transcript|part-time job (commentary)]]
|-
| '''Stick''' || Stark || [[Dangeresque (karaoke)]]
|-
| '''Stop''' || Stap || [[Rap Song]]
|-
| '''Suck''' || Sook || [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]]
|-
| '''Swedish Fish''' || Swordish Feirsh || [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]
|-
| '''Talkin' about''' || Torkin' abort || [[Happy Hallow-day]]
|-
| '''Terrible''' || Terbirle || Email [[senior prom]]
|-

| '''[[The Cheat]]''' || The Chort || ''see [[Nicknames#The Cheat|Nicknames]]''
|-
| '''There''' || Dere, dare || Email [[lures & jigs]], [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]], Email [[theme park]], [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]]
|-
| '''Thousand''' || Trousand || [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]]
|-
| '''Thug''' || Thorg || [[Halloween Fairstival]]
|-
| '''Thumb''' || Thermb || [[Some Stupid Turkey]]
|-
| '''[[Toilet]]''' || Terlet || [[Halloween Fairstival]], [[A Folky Tale]], [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] (Bubs, Homestar), Email [[unnatural]]
|-
| '''Tomato''' || Tomater, "[[Quote of the Week#QW-2005-12-08|I zader matermorts]]" || [[Fall Float Parade]]

|-
| '''Trick or Treat''' || Track or Trort || [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]
|-
| '''Undefeated''' || Undeforted || [[Decemberween Short Shorts]]
|-
| '''Unfortunate''' || Unfarchunate || [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]]
|-
| '''Up''' || Arp || [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]]
|-
| '''What''' || Whort || [[Date Nite]]
|-
| '''Yipe''' || Yorp || Email [[redesign]]
|}

===Inconsistencies===

Evidence has suggested that Coach Z's accent may be bogus:
*After saying "track or trort" in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], Bubs gets on his case and he says it correctly. If given "Swedish Fish," said as "Swordish Forsh," Bubs gets on his case again and Coach Z says "It's a crowd-pleaser."
*In [[boring (really)]], while [[Strong Bad]] is writing his list of three-letter words, Coach Z interrupts him at the word "job", saying that "jorb is a four letters word."
*Coach Z says "The Cheat" immediately after "The Chort" in [[mascot]], though he speaks as though he's talking about two different people.
*In the DVD commentary for [[part-time job]], [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] exploits Coach Z's "accent" by implying that not only does Coach Z add the letter R to words, but now also likes to switch letters around sometimes, and in reply Coach Z partially admits to his accent being bogus.
*In [[cliffhangers]], in the process of his attempted unmasking of [[The Thnikkaman]], he says "secret sorcret" twice, referring to Thnikkaman's secret being revealed and his shame in having really bad hand-eye coordination.

===Featured in===
*[[A Jorb Well Done]]
*[[Coach Z Talker]]

==Coach Z's "more than two problems"==

*Despite being a coach, he doesn't know what a basketball is, as indicated in [[secret recipes]].
*He seems to have psychological problems. For example, in [[garage sale]], he is seen gathering up all the "great for baby" items, but is reluctant to explain why. When Strong Bad comments that "garbage sale" is "for moms only", Coach Z responds "Oh, then I'm okay to say it." In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 8.0]], he admits he sometimes forgets what's real and what's just in his head.
*His accent makes his speech almost incapable of comprehension.
*He has admitted that he has [[Wikipedia: athlete's foot|athlete's foot]]. This was further implied as "problems with his feet" in [[rampage]].
*He has mentioned he has a bad back in his characters page, in [[rampage]], and in [[slumber party]].
*He has been drunk multiple times, usually on mouthwash.
*He spiked the punch at the [[senior prom]] with mouthwash.
*He has bad hand-eye coordination, as evidenced in [[cliffhangers]].
*He has an obsession with butts.
*He holds the record for the longest time gone without [[showering]].
*He admits he likes a good chafe in [[theme park]].
*He enjoys covering puke in sawdust, as seen in [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]], where he says "This is what I live for!" In the commentary for that scene, he claims that "Sawdust makes everything delicious".
*In [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]], he claims to only know a few words, such as "pfargtl". In the commentary for that scene, he claims "pfargtl" is his favorite animal, and he had a "p-family pfargtl" when he was a kid.
*He wears a disturbingly small bathing suit when swimming and leaks a black fluid when it is removed, as seen in [[underlings]].
*He has a weak imagination.
*He fancies himself as a hip-hop artist, but has little musical talent.
*It has been implied that he has a crush on Marzipan; he has occasionally made inappropriate comments about her and has admitted to sneaking into her house.
*He has personal financial problems (due to his apparent job as a janitor), causing his electricity to be shut off each year.
*He seems to believe he's in a relationship with Bubs, as seen in [[Date Nite]].
*He has slight memory loss, as seen in [[mini-golf]].
*Even when he finds something he's eating awful, such as [[secret recipes|a bowl of sour cream and The Cheat fur]], he still eats it.
*He has puked his pants many times.
*His [[hygiene]] habits are so poor that at one point, he believed that the shower heads in his locker room were his "drippy, broken speakers".
*He likes topical ointments.
*He carries a bottle of questionable water with him at all times for questionable reasons.
*He believes that in "the 74's were the prime of his dating year, and that back then every lady would go out with anything that had a mustache".
*He believes that a sketch of a cell phone is his real cell phone.
*He cooks a hot dog from a shower in [[environment]], thinking he is cooking with hydroelectricity.

== Fun Facts ==
*Coach Z's accent came from a depressing Midwestern voice that [[Matt Chapman|Matt]] and some friends would do in college.
*It was revealed in issue #21 of [[Wonkavision Magazine Interview|Wonkavision]] magazine that Coach Z is named after [[Craig Zobel]].
*According to [[trading cards]], Coach Z gave 23 [[Butt-Patting|butt pats]] in 1984 (22 to Homestar, 1 to himself).
*Coach Z was originally known as "Coach Zee."
*Strong Bad referred to Coach Z as "Green Bubs" in the email [[road trip]].
*In [[Date Nite]] he is shown without his hat and wearing hair curlers, despite a lack of visible hair.
*On Coach Z's emblem, the darker blue shine streak under the gold Z makes a Z formation.
*According to the [[Old Characters Page]], Coach Z wasn't much of a coach at the time, and he just added the title because it sounded "cooler than just Z". He has been seen coaching on numerous occasions since then, though his talent at it is still dubious at best.

== Relationships ==
:''Main article: [[Character Relationships]]''
*[[Bubs and Coach Z's Relationship]]
*[[Strong Bad and Coach Z's Relationship]]
*[[Coach Z and Marzipan's Relationship]]

== Variations ==
*[[The Fort Wayne Locomotive]] ([[Old-Timey]])
*[[20X6 Coach Z]] ([[20X6]])
*[[Renaldo]] ([[Dangeresque (film series)|Dangeresque]])
*[[Zubs and Coach B|Coach B or Zubs]]
*[[Other Character Variations|Coach Zed]]
*[[Strong Badman Characters#Damp Towel Man|Damp Towel Man]]

=== [[Halloween Costumes]] ===
In each Homestar Runner Halloween special, Coach Z has dressed up as something hip-hop-related, or in the case of Theo Huxtable, something he believes to be hip-hop related. (The Noid costume was not released.)

*[[Wikipedia:Flavor Flav|Flavor Flav]] in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*[[Wikipedia:Shock G|Humpty Hump]] in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*[[Wikipedia:Christopher "Kid" Reid|Kid]] in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*[[Wikipedia:Kool Moe Dee|Kool Moe Dee]] in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
*[[Wikipedia:Tupac Shakur|Tupac]] in [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*Theo Huxtable (from [[Wikipedia:The Cosby Show|The Cosby Show]]) in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]].
*[[Wikipedia:Queen Latifah|Queen Latifah]] in [[Happy Hallow-day]].
*[[Wikipedia:So So Def Recordings|So So Def Recordings Logo]] in [[Jibblies 2]].

==Quotes of the Week==
{{qotwstart}}
*{{qotw|"Coach Z, R-A-P. Accidentally featuring Peacey P..." ''{entire "Rap Song"}''|[[Rap Song]]|HR:weeklies/rapsong.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"I feel like that school child on the first day of Christmas!"|[[Rap Song]] outtake|Mirror:cz schoolchild.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Oh. I guess I forgort to port. Oh! I guess I forgat to prat! OH! Gorka fa pork!"|[[mini-golf]]|Mirror:cz forgortport.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"You say tomater, I zader madermorts."|[[Fall Float Parade]]|Mirror:cz tomater.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"IT'S DAZZLE-MAZING!!"|[[Happy Fireworks]]|Mirror:cz dazzlemaze.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Once again, [[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]] slips through our fingers!"|[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]|Mirror:cz slipthrufingers.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"It was Biscuit Dough Hands Man! I knew it!!"|[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]|Mirror:cz bdhman.zip}}
*{{qotw|"My name is Coach Z. Pronounced with an 'oach Z'."|[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]|Mirror:cz oachz.mp3}}
|}

==See Also==
*[[Coach Z Evolution]]
*[[Coach Z Other Costumes|Other Costumes]]
*[[Nicknames#Coach Z|Nicknames]]

== External Links ==
* [[HR:vcr cz.html|watch Coach Z's character video]]
* [[HR:vcr cz.swf|view the Flash file for Coach Z's character video]]

{{Characters|Coach Z}}

{{subtitlesLinks|vcr cz}}

[[Category:Word running gags]]

Theme Song Video

2008-01-10T01:23:20Z

Dynamite: /* Trivia */

{{aboutshort}}{{foremail|theme song}}
{{toonnav|Shorts|video|Kick the Can|Fluffy Puff Commercial}}
[[Image:themesong.PNG|200px|thumb|Look out Homestar, it's Strong Bad!]]

The Homestar Runner theme song video.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Homsar}} (DVD version only), {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}

'''Places:''' [[The Moon]], [[Outer Space]], [[Free Country, USA]], [[The Field]], A Frozen Pond, Various Houses, A Dojo, [[Swimming Pool]], A Racetrack, [[Skatetown, USA]], [[King of Town's Castle]]

'''Date:''' 2000

'''Running Time:''' 1:00

'''Page Title:''' Listen in wonder!

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 1}}

== Lyrics ==
Home star run go! 
Homestar run, run 
Homestar run, run

Homestar Runner, really great 
Homestar Runner, ath-a-late 
Homestar Runner, Pom Pom too 
Homestar Runner, we love you!

Homestar run, run 
Homestar run, run

Homestar Runner, do your best 
Homestar Runner, pass the test 
Homestar Runner, Mom and Dad 
Look out, Homestar! It's Strong Bad!

Homestar run, run 
Homestar run, run 
Homestar run! 
Weekdays! 

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*One of the pennants in the background of the bar says "[[LEMKE]]" on it.
*If you slow down the voices by around 20% you can tell that it really is [[The Brothers Chaps]] singing, apparently with mock-Japanese accents.
*You can see the front of Homestar's face when he's driving the [[soap box]] car. The only other times this occurs are in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] and [[Old Intro 2]].
*The song is a remake of the one from [[Super NES]], and would be featured again in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]] and an Easter egg in [[isp]].
*This would seem to be the first appearance of a [[Big Knives|Big Knife]], although the said weapon is not referred to by name until [[i love you]]..
*[[Homsar]] is not in the original Theme Song Video because he had not become a character yet. (However, he is in the DVD version.)
*The Chinese behind [[Pom pom]说明文件) says "Explanation files," or less literally, "Help files."

===Remarks===
*Strong Sad's head is seen at the center of the spinning wheel on the close up, but is seen on the edge after the pan-out.
*When Homestar and Strong Bad race their slot cars, the track has no slots.

=== Goofs ===
*When Homestar jumps off the diving board, he doesn't move forward in the air, and yet doesn't hit the board on his way down.
*In the toy car driving scene, when Homestar moves his head, it goes over his shirt.
*In the close-up of Homestar running on the Earth, the moon in front of the Earth disappears prematurely.

=== Glitches ===
*If you hit "Play Again", or "Rewind" from the contextual menu before the song stops playing, another instance of the song will start playing over the ending of the first one.

===Inside References===
*"Dokle 2" from the Arcade is used as an answer in the [[Homestar Quiz]].
*Bubs's dancing at the arcade clearly refers to the [[Dancin' Bubs]] game.
*The pool that Homestar Runner dives into was previously used in [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] and later in [[keep cool]].

===Fast Forward===
*When the bugle sounds to summon Homestar in [[The King of Town DVD]], it plays this tune.
*Homestar sings to the tune of his own theme song in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]].
**An Easter egg of the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[isp]] has this song with Homestar Runner's weight in CDs running.
*The scene with Homestar and Pom Pom in the bar is almost identical to the one seen at the end of [[Summer Short Shorts]].

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version contains extra scenes causing the video to end at the same time as the music. A few of these scenes feature running gags that hadn't been invented when the original video was made.
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' The Homestar Runner theme song, Mike. Take it away.

'''MIKE:''' Well, Matt, this was maybe the first video that we did.

'''MATT:''' Music video?

'''MIKE:''' Music video that we did, yeah.

'''MATT:''' It was originally going to be an intro to the site; do you remember that plan?

'''MIKE:''' That would have been—

'''MATT:''' And then we—

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' a little bit annoying.

'''MATT:''' Yeah! And then we realized that it was, like, a minute long! And half a meg or something.

'''MIKE:''' You may notice some new scenes in this version, Matt, that aren't on the one that's on the website.

'''MATT:''' That's right!

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Or they're not on the website right now. We were stupid before and did it a stupid way, and there were some gaps. This video was shorter than the song, and we needed more video.

'''MATT:''' Back when we made it, our computer was slow, so that the vide— the audio actually was in synch, right? Was it 'cause we had a bad computer that was slow?

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. Yup.

'''MATT:''' Uh, that's disgusting right there. That heaping pile of doodoo.

'''MIKE:''' What does 1+a equal?

'''MATT:''' Uh, 1+a, I think. Right?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. It's the distributive property.

'''MATT:''' Right. Oh! Get it, Homestar! Umm, "Homestar stinks". I remember we debated for a long time whether or not to make it say "sucks" or "stinks", and we went with "stinks".

'''MIKE:''' We played the safe route?

'''MATT:''' Um, [[Lemke]].

'''MIKE:''' Has— has that bowl of peanuts always been there? It's a nice bowl of peanuts.

===Fun Facts===
*The [[Wikipedia:Distributivity|distributive property]] is the algebraic principle that a number multiplying a sum of two numbers is equal to the sum of the products of the first number with each of the other two: <math>a\cdot(b+c)=a\cdot b+a\cdot c</math>. More than likely, Matt and Mike were thinking of the [[Wikipedia:Reflexive relation|reflexive property of equality]]: <math>1+a=1+a\,</math>.

==See Also==
*The [[Theme Song Video Visuals|visuals]] that occur during this film, and on the [[Theme Song DVD Visuals|DVD]].

== External Links ==
*[[HR:video.html|watch "Theme Song Video"]]
*[[HR:video.swf|view the Flash file for "Theme Song Video"]]
[[Category:Shorts]]
[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:DVD Commentary]]

Theme Song Video

2008-01-10T01:22:54Z

Dynamite: /* Trivia */

{{aboutshort}}{{foremail|theme song}}
{{toonnav|Shorts|video|Kick the Can|Fluffy Puff Commercial}}
[[Image:themesong.PNG|200px|thumb|Look out Homestar, it's Strong Bad!]]

The Homestar Runner theme song video.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Homsar}} (DVD version only), {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}

'''Places:''' [[The Moon]], [[Outer Space]], [[Free Country, USA]], [[The Field]], A Frozen Pond, Various Houses, A Dojo, [[Swimming Pool]], A Racetrack, [[Skatetown, USA]], [[King of Town's Castle]]

'''Date:''' 2000

'''Running Time:''' 1:00

'''Page Title:''' Listen in wonder!

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 1}}

== Lyrics ==
Home star run go! 
Homestar run, run 
Homestar run, run

Homestar Runner, really great 
Homestar Runner, ath-a-late 
Homestar Runner, Pom Pom too 
Homestar Runner, we love you!

Homestar run, run 
Homestar run, run

Homestar Runner, do your best 
Homestar Runner, pass the test 
Homestar Runner, Mom and Dad 
Look out, Homestar! It's Strong Bad!

Homestar run, run 
Homestar run, run 
Homestar run! 
Weekdays! 

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*One of the pennants in the background of the bar says "[[LEMKE]]" on it.
*If you slow down the voices by around 20% you can tell that it really is [[The Brothers Chaps]] singing, apparently with mock-Japanese accents.
*You can see the front of Homestar's face when he's driving the [[soap box]] car. The only other times this occurs are in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] and [[Old Intro 2]].
*The song is a remake of the one from [[Super NES]], and would be featured again in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]] and an Easter egg in [[isp]].
*This would seem to be the first appearance of a [[Big Knives|Big Knife]], although the said weapon is not referred to by name until [[i love you]]..
*[[Homsar]] is not in the original Theme Song Video because he had not become a character yet. (However, he is in the DVD version.)
*The Chinese behind Pom Pom (说明文件) says "Explanation files," or less literally, "Help files."

===Remarks===
*Strong Sad's head is seen at the center of the spinning wheel on the close up, but is seen on the edge after the pan-out.
*When Homestar and Strong Bad race their slot cars, the track has no slots.

=== Goofs ===
*When Homestar jumps off the diving board, he doesn't move forward in the air, and yet doesn't hit the board on his way down.
*In the toy car driving scene, when Homestar moves his head, it goes over his shirt.
*In the close-up of Homestar running on the Earth, the moon in front of the Earth disappears prematurely.

=== Glitches ===
*If you hit "Play Again", or "Rewind" from the contextual menu before the song stops playing, another instance of the song will start playing over the ending of the first one.

===Inside References===
*"Dokle 2" from the Arcade is used as an answer in the [[Homestar Quiz]].
*Bubs's dancing at the arcade clearly refers to the [[Dancin' Bubs]] game.
*The pool that Homestar Runner dives into was previously used in [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] and later in [[keep cool]].

===Fast Forward===
*When the bugle sounds to summon Homestar in [[The King of Town DVD]], it plays this tune.
*Homestar sings to the tune of his own theme song in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]].
**An Easter egg of the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[isp]] has this song with Homestar Runner's weight in CDs running.
*The scene with Homestar and Pom Pom in the bar is almost identical to the one seen at the end of [[Summer Short Shorts]].

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version contains extra scenes causing the video to end at the same time as the music. A few of these scenes feature running gags that hadn't been invented when the original video was made.
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' The Homestar Runner theme song, Mike. Take it away.

'''MIKE:''' Well, Matt, this was maybe the first video that we did.

'''MATT:''' Music video?

'''MIKE:''' Music video that we did, yeah.

'''MATT:''' It was originally going to be an intro to the site; do you remember that plan?

'''MIKE:''' That would have been—

'''MATT:''' And then we—

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' a little bit annoying.

'''MATT:''' Yeah! And then we realized that it was, like, a minute long! And half a meg or something.

'''MIKE:''' You may notice some new scenes in this version, Matt, that aren't on the one that's on the website.

'''MATT:''' That's right!

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Or they're not on the website right now. We were stupid before and did it a stupid way, and there were some gaps. This video was shorter than the song, and we needed more video.

'''MATT:''' Back when we made it, our computer was slow, so that the vide— the audio actually was in synch, right? Was it 'cause we had a bad computer that was slow?

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. Yup.

'''MATT:''' Uh, that's disgusting right there. That heaping pile of doodoo.

'''MIKE:''' What does 1+a equal?

'''MATT:''' Uh, 1+a, I think. Right?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. It's the distributive property.

'''MATT:''' Right. Oh! Get it, Homestar! Umm, "Homestar stinks". I remember we debated for a long time whether or not to make it say "sucks" or "stinks", and we went with "stinks".

'''MIKE:''' We played the safe route?

'''MATT:''' Um, [[Lemke]].

'''MIKE:''' Has— has that bowl of peanuts always been there? It's a nice bowl of peanuts.

===Fun Facts===
*The [[Wikipedia:Distributivity|distributive property]] is the algebraic principle that a number multiplying a sum of two numbers is equal to the sum of the products of the first number with each of the other two: <math>a\cdot(b+c)=a\cdot b+a\cdot c</math>. More than likely, Matt and Mike were thinking of the [[Wikipedia:Reflexive relation|reflexive property of equality]]: <math>1+a=1+a\,</math>.

==See Also==
*The [[Theme Song Video Visuals|visuals]] that occur during this film, and on the [[Theme Song DVD Visuals|DVD]].

== External Links ==
*[[HR:video.html|watch "Theme Song Video"]]
*[[HR:video.swf|view the Flash file for "Theme Song Video"]]
[[Category:Shorts]]
[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:DVD Commentary]]

Theme Song Video

2008-01-10T01:19:47Z

Dynamite:

{{aboutshort}}{{foremail|theme song}}
{{toonnav|Shorts|video|Kick the Can|Fluffy Puff Commercial}}
[[Image:themesong.PNG|200px|thumb|Look out Homestar, it's Strong Bad!]]

The Homestar Runner theme song video.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Homsar}} (DVD version only), {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}

'''Places:''' [[The Moon]], [[Outer Space]], [[Free Country, USA]], [[The Field]], A Frozen Pond, Various Houses, A Dojo, [[Swimming Pool]], A Racetrack, [[Skatetown, USA]], [[King of Town's Castle]]

'''Date:''' 2000

'''Running Time:''' 1:00

'''Page Title:''' Listen in wonder!

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 1}}

== Lyrics ==
Home star run go! 
Homestar run, run 
Homestar run, run

Homestar Runner, really great 
Homestar Runner, ath-a-late 
Homestar Runner, Pom Pom too 
Homestar Runner, we love you!

Homestar run, run 
Homestar run, run

Homestar Runner, do your best 
Homestar Runner, pass the test 
Homestar Runner, Mom and Dad 
Look out, Homestar! It's Strong Bad!

Homestar run, run 
Homestar run, run 
Homestar run! 
Weekdays! 

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*The slot cars Homestar and Strong Bad race share those characters' colors.
*One of the pennants in the background of the bar says "[[LEMKE]]" on it.
*If you slow down the voices by around 20% you can tell that it really is [[The Brothers Chaps]] singing, apparently with mock-Japanese accents.
*You can see the front of Homestar's face when he's driving the soap box car. The only other times this occurs are in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] and [[Old Intro 2]].
*The song is a remake of the one from [[Super NES]], and would be featured again in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]] and an Easter egg in [[isp]].
*This would seem to be the first appearance of a [[Big Knives|Big Knife]], although the said weapon is not referred to by name until [[i love you]].
*Homsar is not in the original Theme Song Video because he had not become a character yet. (However, he is in the DVD version.)
*The Chinese behind Pom Pom (说明文件) says "Explanation files," or less literally, "Help files."

===Remarks===
*Strong Sad's head is seen at the center of the spinning wheel on the close up, but is seen on the edge after the pan-out.
*When Homestar and Strong Bad race their slot cars, the track has no slots.

=== Goofs ===
*When Homestar jumps off the diving board, he doesn't move forward in the air, and yet doesn't hit the board on his way down.
*In the toy car driving scene, when Homestar moves his head, it goes over his shirt.
*In the close-up of Homestar running on the Earth, the moon in front of the Earth disappears prematurely.

=== Glitches ===
*If you hit "Play Again", or "Rewind" from the contextual menu before the song stops playing, another instance of the song will start playing over the ending of the first one.

===Inside References===
*"Dokle 2" from the Arcade is used as an answer in the [[Homestar Quiz]].
*Bubs's dancing at the arcade clearly refers to the [[Dancin' Bubs]] game.
*The pool that Homestar Runner dives into was previously used in [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] and later in [[keep cool]].

===Fast Forward===
*When the bugle sounds to summon Homestar in [[The King of Town DVD]], it plays this tune.
*Homestar sings to the tune of his own theme song in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]].
**An Easter egg of the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[isp]] has this song with Homestar Runner's weight in CDs running.
*The scene with Homestar and Pom Pom in the bar is almost identical to the one seen at the end of [[Summer Short Shorts]].

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version contains extra scenes causing the video to end at the same time as the music. A few of these scenes feature running gags that hadn't been invented when the original video was made.
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' The Homestar Runner theme song, Mike. Take it away.

'''MIKE:''' Well, Matt, this was maybe the first video that we did.

'''MATT:''' Music video?

'''MIKE:''' Music video that we did, yeah.

'''MATT:''' It was originally going to be an intro to the site; do you remember that plan?

'''MIKE:''' That would have been—

'''MATT:''' And then we—

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' a little bit annoying.

'''MATT:''' Yeah! And then we realized that it was, like, a minute long! And half a meg or something.

'''MIKE:''' You may notice some new scenes in this version, Matt, that aren't on the one that's on the website.

'''MATT:''' That's right!

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Or they're not on the website right now. We were stupid before and did it a stupid way, and there were some gaps. This video was shorter than the song, and we needed more video.

'''MATT:''' Back when we made it, our computer was slow, so that the vide— the audio actually was in synch, right? Was it 'cause we had a bad computer that was slow?

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. Yup.

'''MATT:''' Uh, that's disgusting right there. That heaping pile of doodoo.

'''MIKE:''' What does 1+a equal?

'''MATT:''' Uh, 1+a, I think. Right?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. It's the distributive property.

'''MATT:''' Right. Oh! Get it, Homestar! Umm, "Homestar stinks". I remember we debated for a long time whether or not to make it say "sucks" or "stinks", and we went with "stinks".

'''MIKE:''' We played the safe route?

'''MATT:''' Um, [[Lemke]].

'''MIKE:''' Has— has that bowl of peanuts always been there? It's a nice bowl of peanuts.

===Fun Facts===
*The [[Wikipedia:Distributivity|distributive property]] is the algebraic principle that a number multiplying a sum of two numbers is equal to the sum of the products of the first number with each of the other two: <math>a\cdot(b+c)=a\cdot b+a\cdot c</math>. More than likely, Matt and Mike were thinking of the [[Wikipedia:Reflexive relation|reflexive property of equality]]: <math>1+a=1+a\,</math>.

==See Also==
*The [[Theme Song Video Visuals|visuals]] that occur during this film, and on the [[Theme Song DVD Visuals|DVD]].

== External Links ==
*[[HR:video.html|watch "Theme Song Video"]]
*[[HR:video.swf|view the Flash file for "Theme Song Video"]]
[[Category:Shorts]]
[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:DVD Commentary]]

Theme Song Video

2008-01-10T01:18:46Z

Dynamite:

{{aboutshort}}{{foremail|theme song}}
{{toonnav|Shorts|video|Kick the Can|Fluffy Puff Commercial}}
[[Image:themesong.PNG|200px|thumb|Look out, it's Strong Bad!]]

The Homestar Runner theme song video.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Homsar}} (DVD version only), {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}

'''Places:''' [[The Moon]], [[Outer Space]], [[Free Country, USA]], [[The Field]], A Frozen Pond, Various Houses, A Dojo, [[Swimming Pool]], A Racetrack, [[Skatetown, USA]], [[King of Town's Castle]]

'''Date:''' 2000

'''Running Time:''' 1:00

'''Page Title:''' Listen in wonder!

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 1}}

== Lyrics ==
Home star run go! 
Homestar run, run 
Homestar run, run

Homestar Runner, really great 
Homestar Runner, ath-a-late 
Homestar Runner, Pom Pom too 
Homestar Runner, we love you!

Homestar run, run 
Homestar run, run

Homestar Runner, do your best 
Homestar Runner, pass the test 
Homestar Runner, Mom and Dad 
Look out, Homestar! It's Strong Bad!

Homestar run, run 
Homestar run, run 
Homestar run! 
Weekdays! 

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*The slot cars Homestar and Strong Bad race share those characters' colors.
*One of the pennants in the background of the bar says "[[LEMKE]]" on it.
*If you slow down the voices by around 20% you can tell that it really is [[The Brothers Chaps]] singing, apparently with mock-Japanese accents.
*You can see the front of Homestar's face when he's driving the soap box car. The only other times this occurs are in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] and [[Old Intro 2]].
*The song is a remake of the one from [[Super NES]], and would be featured again in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]] and an Easter egg in [[isp]].
*This would seem to be the first appearance of a [[Big Knives|Big Knife]], although the said weapon is not referred to by name until [[i love you]].
*Homsar is not in the original Theme Song Video because he had not become a character yet. (However, he is in the DVD version.)
*The Chinese behind Pom Pom (说明文件) says "Explanation files," or less literally, "Help files."

===Remarks===
*Strong Sad's head is seen at the center of the spinning wheel on the close up, but is seen on the edge after the pan-out.
*When Homestar and Strong Bad race their slot cars, the track has no slots.

=== Goofs ===
*When Homestar jumps off the diving board, he doesn't move forward in the air, and yet doesn't hit the board on his way down.
*In the toy car driving scene, when Homestar moves his head, it goes over his shirt.
*In the close-up of Homestar running on the Earth, the moon in front of the Earth disappears prematurely.

=== Glitches ===
*If you hit "Play Again", or "Rewind" from the contextual menu before the song stops playing, another instance of the song will start playing over the ending of the first one.

===Inside References===
*"Dokle 2" from the Arcade is used as an answer in the [[Homestar Quiz]].
*Bubs's dancing at the arcade clearly refers to the [[Dancin' Bubs]] game.
*The pool that Homestar Runner dives into was previously used in [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] and later in [[keep cool]].

===Fast Forward===
*When the bugle sounds to summon Homestar in [[The King of Town DVD]], it plays this tune.
*Homestar sings to the tune of his own theme song in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]].
**An Easter egg of the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[isp]] has this song with Homestar Runner's weight in CDs running.
*The scene with Homestar and Pom Pom in the bar is almost identical to the one seen at the end of [[Summer Short Shorts]].

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version contains extra scenes causing the video to end at the same time as the music. A few of these scenes feature running gags that hadn't been invented when the original video was made.
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' The Homestar Runner theme song, Mike. Take it away.

'''MIKE:''' Well, Matt, this was maybe the first video that we did.

'''MATT:''' Music video?

'''MIKE:''' Music video that we did, yeah.

'''MATT:''' It was originally going to be an intro to the site; do you remember that plan?

'''MIKE:''' That would have been—

'''MATT:''' And then we—

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' a little bit annoying.

'''MATT:''' Yeah! And then we realized that it was, like, a minute long! And half a meg or something.

'''MIKE:''' You may notice some new scenes in this version, Matt, that aren't on the one that's on the website.

'''MATT:''' That's right!

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Or they're not on the website right now. We were stupid before and did it a stupid way, and there were some gaps. This video was shorter than the song, and we needed more video.

'''MATT:''' Back when we made it, our computer was slow, so that the vide— the audio actually was in synch, right? Was it 'cause we had a bad computer that was slow?

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. Yup.

'''MATT:''' Uh, that's disgusting right there. That heaping pile of doodoo.

'''MIKE:''' What does 1+a equal?

'''MATT:''' Uh, 1+a, I think. Right?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. It's the distributive property.

'''MATT:''' Right. Oh! Get it, Homestar! Umm, "Homestar stinks". I remember we debated for a long time whether or not to make it say "sucks" or "stinks", and we went with "stinks".

'''MIKE:''' We played the safe route?

'''MATT:''' Um, [[Lemke]].

'''MIKE:''' Has— has that bowl of peanuts always been there? It's a nice bowl of peanuts.

===Fun Facts===
*The [[Wikipedia:Distributivity|distributive property]] is the algebraic principle that a number multiplying a sum of two numbers is equal to the sum of the products of the first number with each of the other two: <math>a\cdot(b+c)=a\cdot b+a\cdot c</math>. More than likely, Matt and Mike were thinking of the [[Wikipedia:Reflexive relation|reflexive property of equality]]: <math>1+a=1+a\,</math>.

==See Also==
*The [[Theme Song Video Visuals|visuals]] that occur during this film, and on the [[Theme Song DVD Visuals|DVD]].

== External Links ==
*[[HR:video.html|watch "Theme Song Video"]]
*[[HR:video.swf|view the Flash file for "Theme Song Video"]]
[[Category:Shorts]]
[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:DVD Commentary]]

Puking

2008-01-10T00:59:27Z

Dynamite: /* Appearances */

[[Image:Style1.PNG||thumbnail|"I don't know whether to puke or have a seizure..."]]

On several occasions, a [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] character '''[[Wikipedia:Vomiting|pukes]]''' or mentions puking.

==Appearances==
*[[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] — Homestar pukes [[Fluffy Puff Marshmallows|marshmallows]] and a bomb onto Strong Bad.
*[[Fortune Cookies]] — A fortune cookie reads "Why not try some moldy [[bread]]. You might not vomit".
*[[Theme Song Video]] — [[The Poopsmith]] serves [[whatsit]] to [[The King of Town]], causing him to be on the verge of puking.
*[[Some Stupid Turkey]] — At the end of the toon, The King of Town turns green from eating so much Thanksgiving food.
*Email [[date]] — [[Strong Bad]] claims his [[Extra Real Dating Sim XR]] will let him see what Marzipan and Homestar are like on a date "without the risk of personal injury. Or vomiting".
*Email [[couch patch]] — [[Coach Z]]'s reason for the existence of the patch is because he puked in a rip in [[The Couch]].
*[[A Decemberween Pageant]] — When Coach Z asks where Strong Sad went, Homestar replies, "I think he might be up-chucking".
**Coach Z then asks Strong Mad to look for him. Strong Sad is seen behind a bathroom door on his knees at the toilet (although he doesn't appear to be vomiting at the time).
*Email [[theme park]] — Strong Bad says that the "Bowels of Trogdor" ride will "whip you around and around until you either throw up or catch fire somehow".
*[[Labor Dabor]] — [[Homestar Runner]] calls [[Frank Bennedetto]]'s sudden outburst of popcorn an "upchuck".
*[[Halloween Fairstival]] — Strong Bad says that [[Marzipan]]'s vegetable chorus is about to give him the "throw-ups", and he proceeds to make puking noises.
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] — [[Cheerleader]] pukes at the suggested band name, "Smartly Pretty".
*Email [[secret recipes]] — After realizing he ate a bowl of sour cream and [[The Cheat]] hair, Coach Z is sickened to the point that, as he words it, he may puke his pants (which he is willing to show Strong Bad how). Strong Bad tries to "make puke" The King of Town by pretending to eat a Speed Stick. It turns out The King is already eating some, and likes it.
*Email [[bottom 10]] — Strong Bad pukes after Homestar's [[buttdance]], making his number one item "Thcleaning up your own puke off the keyboard".
*[[Sick Day]] — [[The Cheat]] is in a "[[Puke Pail]] For Him!" with puke stains on it.
*[[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] — Homestar claims that the last bite of The King of Town's ham sandwich "nearly made me puke it right back on my plate!"
*Email [[lady fan]] — The Cheat pukes in the dryer after shocking Strong Bad.
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]] — [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Shirt Folding Store Manager|Shirt Folding Store Manager]] tells So and So that "a kid puked in dressing room 3".
*Email [[retirement]] — It is implied that the King of Town has puked on Marzipan.
*Email [[coloring]] — One of the crayons you can use in the [[Limozeen Coloring Book|coloring book Easter egg]] is called "Roadie Puke Green".
*[[Decemberween Short Shorts]] — Homestar's song mentions that if Coach Z learns to "say words right", people won't throw up so much when they talk to him. Also, during the song, Coach Z is seen sitting next to a "Puke Pail For Whoev!"
*Email [[looking old]] — Strong Bad doesn't know whether to puke or have a seizure in response to The Cheat's flashy and quickly-paced edit of the email.
*[[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]] — Strong Bad tells Coach Z that a customer service rep has puked up her microwave lasagna. In the commentary, Strong Bad mentions he used to think puke covered in sawdust was "way nastier" than just puke. However, Coach Z thinks "sawdust makes everything delicious
*[[Rap Song]] — The Cheat turns a little green and sounds sick after [[Coach Z]] offers him chinstrap pizza.
*[[The Poopsmith#Character Video Transcript|The Poopsmith]]'s [[character video]] — Homestar says that "The Poopsmith has taken a vow of silence". He then says "I'm about to take a vow of throwing up my cookies all over this microphone".

==Screenshots of Puking==
<gallery>
Image:Fortunevomit.PNG|It's true. You ''might'' not vomit, but...
Image:Kotpuke2.PNG|Even the KoT draws the line at whatsit.
Image:Kotpuke.PNG|"More gravy please."
Image:Couchpuke.png|"I'm sorry for what I done!"
Image:Cheerleaderpuke.PNG|"Augh! Bleh! Ewww! Grugh!"
Image:Pukepail.PNG|"The Cheat! What's taking so long with my puke pail?"
Image:Cheatpuking.PNG|"This is not looking extra-special cool."
</gallery>

[[Category:Food running gags]][[Category:Activity running gags]]

Puking

2008-01-10T00:57:52Z

Dynamite: /* Appearances */

[[Image:Style1.PNG||thumbnail|"I don't know whether to puke or have a seizure..."]]

On several occasions, a [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] character '''[[Wikipedia:Vomiting|pukes]]''' or mentions puking.

==Appearances==
*[[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] — Homestar pukes [[Fluffy Puff Marshmallows|marshmallows]] and a bomb onto Strong Bad.
*[[Fortune Cookies]] — A fortune cookie reads "Why not try some moldy [[bread]]. You might not vomit".
*[[Theme Song Video]] — [[The Poopsmith]] serves [[whatsit]] to [[The King of Town]], causing him to be on the verge of puking.
*[[Some Stupid Turkey]] — At the end of the toon, The King of Town turns green from eating so much Thanksgiving food.
*Email [[date]] — [[Strong Bad]] claims his [[Extra Real Dating Sim XR]] will let him see what Marzipan and Homestar are like on a date "without the risk of personal injury. Or vomiting".
*Email [[couch patch]] — [[Coach Z]]'s reason for the existence of the patch is because he puked in a rip in [[The Couch]].
*[[A Decemberween Pageant]] — When Coach Z asks where Strong Sad went, Homestar replies, "I think he might be up-chucking".
**Coach Z then asks Strong Mad to look for him. Strong Sad is seen behind a bathroom door on his knees at the toilet (although he doesn't appear to be vomiting at the time).
*Email [[theme park]] — Strong Bad says that the "Bowels of Trogdor" ride will "whip you around and around until you either throw up or catch fire somehow".
*[[Labor Dabor]] — [[Homestar Runner]] calls [[Frank Bennedetto]]'s sudden outburst of popcorn an "upchuck".
*[[Halloween Fairstival]] — Strong Bad says that [[Marzipan]]'s vegetable chorus is about to give him the "throw-ups", and he proceeds to make puking noises.
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] — [[Cheerleader]] pukes at the suggested band name, "Smartly Pretty".
*Email [[secret recipes]] — After realizing he ate a bowl of sour cream and [[The Cheat]] hair, Coach Z is sickened to the point that, as he words it, he may puke his pants (which he is willing to show Strong Bad how). Strong Bad tries to "make puke" The King of Town by pretending to eat a Speed Stick. It turns out The King is already eating some, and likes it.
*Email [[bottom 10]] — Strong Bad pukes after Homestar's [[buttdance]], making his number one item "Thcleaning up your own puke off the keyboard".
*[[Sick Day]] — [[The Cheat]] is in a "[[Puke Pail]] For Him!" with puke stains on it.
*[[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] — Homestar claims that the last bite of The King of Town's ham sandwich "nearly made me puke it right back on my plate!"
*Email [[lady fan]] — The Cheat pukes in the dryer after shocking Strong Bad.
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]] — [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Shirt Folding Store Manager|Shirt Folding Store Manager]] tells So and So that "a kid puked in dressing room 3".
*Email [[retirement]] — It is implied that the King of Town has puked on Marzipan.
*Email [[coloring]] — One of the crayons you can use in the [[Limozeen Coloring Book|coloring book Easter egg]] is called "Roadie Puke Green".
*[[Decemberween Short Shorts]] — Homestar's song mentions that if Coach Z learns to "say words right", people won't throw up so much when they talk to him. Also, during the song, Coach Z is seen sitting next to a "Puke Pail For Whoev!"
*Email [[looking old]] — Strong Bad doesn't know whether to puke or have a seizure in response to The Cheat's flashy and quickly-paced edit of the email.
*[[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]] — Strong Bad tells Coach Z that a customer service rep has puked up her microwave lasagna. In the commentary, Strong Bad mentions he used to think puke covered in sawdust was "way nastier" than just puke.
*[[Rap Song]] — The Cheat turns a little green and sounds sick after [[Coach Z]] offers him chinstrap pizza.
*[[The Poopsmith#Character Video Transcript|The Poopsmith]]'s [[character video]] — Homestar says that "The Poopsmith has taken a vow of silence". He then says "I'm about to take a vow of throwing up my cookies all over this microphone".

==Screenshots of Puking==
<gallery>
Image:Fortunevomit.PNG|It's true. You ''might'' not vomit, but...
Image:Kotpuke2.PNG|Even the KoT draws the line at whatsit.
Image:Kotpuke.PNG|"More gravy please."
Image:Couchpuke.png|"I'm sorry for what I done!"
Image:Cheerleaderpuke.PNG|"Augh! Bleh! Ewww! Grugh!"
Image:Pukepail.PNG|"The Cheat! What's taking so long with my puke pail?"
Image:Cheatpuking.PNG|"This is not looking extra-special cool."
</gallery>

[[Category:Food running gags]][[Category:Activity running gags]]

HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 22

2008-01-10T00:45:35Z

Dynamite: /* Server problems? */

{{Main Page Talk}}

== RC problems, sort of... ==

I would post this on the Recent Changes talk page, but that's nonexistent, so anyways, I run Firefox 2.0.0.5 and if I load the main page and click on Recent Changes, a window pops up saying "You have chosen to open 'Recent Changes'...which is an 'application/octet-stream' What do you want to do with this file?" And I get two options, "Save to Disc" or "Open with..." (which to that I click "Cancel ;). It's really annoying, but is this actually a fixable problem or am I just going to have to deal with it? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 19:49, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
:Oh, I forgot to mention, for people who use Firefox, it's a basic download screen. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 19:52, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
:It sounds like for some reason Firefox thinks that the PHP used with MediaWiki is a program (that's what it means when it says application/octet-stream). My first suggestion would be clear your cache (Preferences -> Advanced -> Network). If that doesn't solve the problem, you might want to see if the file association is messed up. Go to the Content tab in Preferences and click on the Manage button under File Types. If PHP is listed there, delete it. Last resort would be to locate the cache or preferences and delete them manually; the file might be corrupt and that's why it is giving you the strange result. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 00:38, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::You know what, that happened to me once. I uninstalled Firefox and reinstalled it and it seemed to work. But only do that if Wbwolf's advice doesn't work. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 04:54, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Clearing my cache seemed to work, but waiting is definitely the best remedy here. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:44, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

== Protection? ==
I just realized. How do we protect pages from being edited? Couldn't we stop User Page vandalism if the User could just protect his/her page? --{{User:SantanaHomerunner/sig}} 19:07, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
:I have [[HRWiki:Da Basement#Limited editability for user pages|already suggested this and been shot down]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:09, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
::Protecting those pages would be possible, but it wouldn't solve anything. There are several rare but legitimate reasons for a non-sysop to edit someone else's user page, and there's no reason to remove that functionality just because some people can't play nice. Besides, just about all vandalism is detected and removed quickly. If we protected the entire user namespace, then there would just be more vandalism in the other namespaces. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:58, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

==Not everyone likes the site==
So could you please change the comment? [[User:124.180.174.141|124.180.174.141]] 11:52, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:Which site and which comment?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:07, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

We're currently working on [[Special:Statistics|{{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}]] [[Special:Allpages|articles]] about our favorite Internet cartoon.

::(I think that's it...) {{User:Mee/sig}} 12:32, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:::"our" refers to the wiki community. If you don't like the site, you're not part of the community and thus the statement doesn't apply to you. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:14, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Seriously, if you don't like the site, just don't visit it. It's not that hard. You don't need us to fix something you can easily fix yourself. Like non-Starbucks cafes may carry a "Best coffee in town!" sign. That doesn't mean EVERYONE IN TOWN considers their coffee the best in town. The "our favorite Internet cartoon" is just like that. Everyone on the Internet does not mutually agree that homestarrunner.com is the best site on the Internet. But it is very popular (and a favorite among this site), so we keep this banner.

::::Also, please do not tell us to fix your problems for you. Instead, refrain from visiting the site you seem to dislike. It's not that hard, we're not extremely popular.

::::If you MUST have it removed, I'd suggest getting Firefox and Greasemonkey and programming a simple user script to simply remove that line. [http://diveintogreasemonkey.org/toc/ Here's a good tutorial. It should be enough.]

::::Furthermore, if you dislike Homestar Runner, I see no reason as to HOW you found this site. I dunno about you, but I don't go googling fansites of webtoons I hate. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 18:11, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::Bluebry, stop feeding the troll. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:15, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::Well, I wouldn't say they are a troll, DeF. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 18:19, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Just like [[Talk:Main Page 24#20/200|this anonny]] wasn't a troll? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::You got trolled pretty good, there, dintya, Fender Stratocaster? [[User:76.200.147.236|76.200.147.236]] 04:07, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::::No this guy's nicer. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 18:22, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I don't think so. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:25, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::First off: He's said two sentences, and used "please". Second off: Argument over, we're just spamming Talk:Main Page with a useless argument. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 18:27, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

== Stupid DNA evi-dence ==

Is it necessary for us to note in ''every single'' Email of the [[DNA Evidence (running gag)|DNA evidence running gag]] that its DNA scene is revisited in the [[DNA Evidence]] toon? To me it's almost like going to each of the first 124-160 Emails and noting that each email is revisited in [[rock opera]] and/or [[160 Seconds]]. I feel like removing that note from every Email that does not receive another notable reference (or contradiction, in the case of [[unnatural#Fast Forward|unnatural]]) in the toon. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:09, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:I disagree. There's a definite, purposeful connection between the DNA scenes and [[DNA Evidence]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:22, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
::Seconded {{User:Rootbeersoup/sig}} 04:15, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::My problem was before I expanded each note, it felt like they were referring only to the recap at the beginning of the toon as the revisit. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:32, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Is it ''that'' notable that [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]] is referenced in the DNA toon? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 19:26, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::Eh, I think it is. By the way, why are we discussing this here, and not at [[Talk:DNA Evidence]] or some such page? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 20:17, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

== Redirect? ==

Redirects don't seem to like the alternate-caps auto-redirect, as I discovered with [[No Hands on Deck]]. Thoughts? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:25, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:Works fine for me. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:26, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:: Now wait just a durned minute. When I typed that directly, it didn't work!!! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Typing directly worked for me also. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:29, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
::::When I type it in the URL bar (with the lowercase O) it redirects me to a redirect page. I tend to type directly into the URL bar instead of the search bar. Guess it was my own fault then. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:46, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::When you type it directly into the URL, you're actually creating a double redirect, which is why you have to click through. (When you put it on a wiki page or in the search bar, it avoids the double redirect.) It has to be like that so that we can access those pages in case we ever need to turn them into real pages (for example, when we needed to make [[the paper]] after already having [[The Paper]]). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:08, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::: Okay, I get it. Sorry for being out of the loop. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:12, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

== Page Titles ==

Now that we have a page for every toon's [[page title]] (see the link I just gave), should we start linking where every toon says
<blockquote>
'''Page title:''' ''{toon's page title}''
</blockquote>
to that page? I don't mind taking the time to link many of them, though it would take a while. What does anyone else think? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 02:18, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
:If we want to link them (and I'm not sure we should), we should have [[User:The Cheatbot]] do it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:24, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
::Wouldn't work anyway, a lot of the sbemails have the same title. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:26, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

== Filmography Pages ==

I'm just asking, in [[mini-golf]], a lot of characters made appearances, and most of those characters don't have their own filmography pages. The filmographies on their character pages have 5 to 6 appearances listed. I agreed that the [[Drive-Thru Whale|Drive-Thru Whale's]] two appearances don't warrant their own page yet, but the question is, how many appearances ''does'' a character need to have their own filmography page? — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 12:15, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:''See [[HRWiki talk:Standards#Filmography Pages]]''

== Redirect Problem ==

I'm seriously not trying to insult anybody, but despite the consensus reached to turn [[Coach Z's Gender Confusion]] into a redirect to [[Coach Z#Coach Z's "more than two problems"]], the page was instead turned into a redirect to [[Cross-dressing]] with no visible explanation. Does anyone mind if I try to fix it? Once again, I am not trying to insult anybody. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 16:29, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
:[[Talk:Cross-dressing#Coach Z's Gender Confusion|Said consencus]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 16:46, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
:It's not completely clear what some people wanted, since some just put a vague "Redirect for reasons above". Naturally, someone must have got confused. Furthermore, at least 3 people wanted to redirect to Coach Z, opposed to at least 1 wanting to redirect to Cross Dressing. So, sure, go ahead and fix it. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:49, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

== Server problems? ==

I've been having trouble accesing the HRWiki for a while. It's really slow. Are there problems with the server? And please, PLEASE don't answer my question with "This is not the place to ask that" or something, because I don't have anywhere else to go. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:51, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:It happens from time to time, especially on Mondays. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:57, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
::Oh, thanks. Why Mondays? --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:58, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:::What happens on Mondays? ;) {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:05, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
::::The wiki slows down, and then the Brothes Chaps get bored and put a new sbemail out? ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:11, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::Technically the wiki slows down ''because'' the Brothers Chaps are going to put a new sbemail out. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:54, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::Just a thought to be put out, they DO sometimes make toons, shorts, puppet stuff, ect. not just sbemails. ([[User:Dynamite|Dynamite]] 00:45, 10 January 2008 (UTC))

== New Namespace Idea ==

How about we have a name space for Featured Articls, like FeatArt? It could be locked so only sysops can edit it, new FeatArts could go into it, and it would just help with organization. Howz about it? {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 20:24, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

:Interesting idea. I don't immediately see what the advantages are, though. I guess it would allow searching by namespace, although all the featured articles are listed at [[HRWiki:Featured articles]] and the articles that have been featured can be found at [[HRWiki:Featured article nominations]]. What other benefits were you thinking of?

:Also, I don't think we'd want to protect everything in the namespace — if we did, only sysops could write the summaries, which would be a big disadvantage. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:52, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

::I have this same thing on my wiki, and it works very well. It clears up a lot of clutter on the Main Page code, having <nowiki>{{FeatArt}} instead of {{#ifexist: FeatArt:{{#time: WY}}|FeatArt:{{#time:WY}}|blash blah blah}}</nowiki>. That would go into one article in the NS, and the rest would be a numerical code for that week. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 00:57, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

:::On the contrary. The ParserFunctions make it that much cleaner by updating automatically. I really don't think we need a namespace just to save a few extra characters on the Main Page or to keep it separate from our project namespace. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 14:45, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

== Chapman article overhaul ==
I think that we need an urgent overhaul of the Brothers Chaps subpages, the writing isn't up to scratch, and we could really use some nice info boxes, also, those lists need to be intergrated into the main article, in short, they have to be biographies of everything we know and that is notable about TBC.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 13:19, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think lists should be integrated just for the sake of integrating them. If something is easier to read in list form than prose form, then it should remain a list. (In other words, Wikipedia doesn't know what they're talking about.) Feel free to make whatever other fix-ups you see fit, but remember that everything we know is ''not'' the same as what is notable. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:50, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
::Hmmm, I disagree, lists are a bad thing to me, since I think pages on real people should be written biography style, like our character pages, although we don't have nearly enough information, I personally agree with Wikipedia on this one, infoboxes esc...--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 00:08, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:::So fix 'em up. If the community deems the changes to be an improvement, then we'll keep them. It's hard to say which style is better without seeing both. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:05, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

== We're still Limozeen! ==

:''Discussion moved to [[Talk:Limozeen]]''

== Spotted on the streets of Melbourne ==

Here's a photo snapped on the streets of Melbourne, Australia. Figured somebody here might like to see it. [[:Image:Trgdorcar.jpg]] -[[User:Pat|Pat]] 16:08, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
:That's cool. Maybe we can put it on a [[Sightings]] page. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:18, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

== Deletion discussions ==

One thing that's been bugging me; how do sysnops decide how long discussions to delete articles should last? How come discussions to delete pages like [[Strong Bad Checking More Than One Email]] or [[Cheating]] go on for months while the discussion to delete [[Modestly Hot Homsar]] only lasted three weeks? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:23, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
:It's kind of a judgment thing. If consensus is clear early on, it will generally be closed earlier. Sometimes it takes longer for consensus. Other times, such as for [[Modestly Hot Homsar]], it's an issue of when it's clear there is no consensus. As for why some stay open for a while... well, sometimes we just forget, to be honest. It's clear to me that [[Cheating]] is indeed well overdue to be closed. So, the long and short is, we judge it on a case-by-case basis, and we do sometimes forget one. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:40, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

== Podcast ==

As podcasts of H*R have proven unreliable, in that they come and go with no warning, should we continue the practice of listing them in External Links of toons so podcast? Or, might we have a "See podcasts" link on every toon's page, so anyone might be able to check and see if the podcast is available or not? It's a pain for you all to be adding and removing all these podcasts from articles. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:19, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
:If TBC ever put up the podcasts again, I bet they'd start with all new ones. And even if they didn't, we may as well remove them 'cause it doesn't look like they'll come back any time soon. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 09:13, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

== Too long, Clanky! ==

Is there a template/project page for articles that contain more than 32 kb? It doesn't seem like anything's being done about pages like [[Quote of the Week]], [[HRWiki talk:Standards]], and [[Secret Pages]] (I tried moving some Secret Pages to [[Site Components]] but Secret Pages was still too big) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 19:24, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
:A talk page can be archived, but there's really nothing you can do with those other two. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:28, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
::We could try to divide Quote of the Week into yearly pages as was done with the other 2 weeklies. (1 page for all the Quotes featured in 2007, 1 for all the Quotes featured in 2006, etc) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 19:39, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Splitting pages when they hit 32kb isn't a hard rule... it's just a benchmark... if a page gets that big, a split is worth considering. I don't think QotW should be split up, because there is information gained by having it all in one big list – namely the sortable tables. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:52, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
== Scroll Button Mirror Glitch ==

I might have found [[Talk:Scroll Button Songs#Mirror Glitch|a glitch]] with 3 of the [[Scroll Button Songs]] mirrors. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

== Update The Browse the Knowledge Base Box ==

Should [[Podstar Runner]] be removed from the box's "Features" list? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:24, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
:Can the next person to add a Featured Article template update the features list as well please? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:09, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::What reason is there to keep it on that box in the Main Page? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Please be patient on this sort of thing. I've gone ahead and removed the link now. About your second comment: note than when the featured article changes, we don't actually edit the main page; it updates automatically. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:43, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

== main page message: email soon ==

Can a person whose able to put this on the main page? -[[User:141.133.160.52|141.133.160.52]] 07:40, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

== Server problems redux ==

The server was so bad Monday I couldn't access this site at all... until after midnight. I would have told you sooner, but I couldn't access the site. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 04:32, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:Nobody could, I think. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 04:53, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
::Why do we even post things like this? There's no point in telling people the server was down; the odds are the developers already know this, and even if they don't, it doesn't matter now that it's back up. This talk page is not to log times the server goes down. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:24, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
:::In his defense, Heimi, if a number of users report a downtime, it can be of benefit to development. It may indicate a lack of bandwidth or other area of server settings that needs to be upgraded. However, I agree that Main Page Talk isn't probably the best place for the conversation... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:56, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Nondescript Nouns

2008-01-05T20:05:42Z

Dynamite: /* Appearances */

[[Image:Place Postcard.PNG|thumb|Greetings from Place]]
'''Nondescript Nouns''' are simply generic [[Wikipedia:noun|nouns]] used where either a proper noun or a more specific common noun is expected. This has occurred numerous times in the [[Homestar Runner universe]].

==Appearances==
*[[Where My Hat is At?]] — [[Homestar Runner]] prepares for the "Big Game".
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]] — Homestar says that he represents "Distinguished Businessman".
**This line appears again in [[An Open Forum]].
*Email [[dullard]] — During the demonstration for "Method 3", Homestar tries to discuss last night's episode of "Popular Reality Show" with Strong Bad.
*Email [[vacation]] — [[Strong Bad]] sends postcards from such [[Strong Bad's Vacation Spots|locations]] as "That Clock" and historic "Over There".
*Email [[comic]] — Strong Bad creates [[Teen Girl Squad]], giving the main characters the nondescript names [[Cheerleader]], [[So and So]], [[What's Her Face]], and [[The Ugly One]].
*Email [[english paper]] — In an Easter egg we see a parody of eBay called [[Some Type of Online Auction]].
*[[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]] — Homestar orders red, blue, and orange drinks. He and the viewers also never find out for sure what Strong Bad and the others were pretending was the "thing in a bag".
*Email [[anything]] — The postcard for Fish Lake states that it's "Home of this fish". Additionally, Homestar gives Marzipan "Really Slow Old People Music", "Pretty Slow Old People Music", and "Very Slow Old People Music".
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]] — So and So carries a "Subject" textbook. Cheerleader asks [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Quarterback|Quarterback]] out.
*Email [[different town]] — At the end of the email, Strong Bad says "I'm gonna go... Place." Then, in an Easter egg, you can see a postcard from [[Place]].
*Email [[crying]] — At the end of the email, Strong Bad says he has "a food...in the oven."
*Email [[other days]] — Strong Bad's calendar has "A Month" written on the top. Homestar brags about his frag count in "Online Gaming".
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] — Strong Bad, under the alias "Bob Statesman", claims to be running for the office of "Elected Official".
*Email [[montage]] — Strong Bad announces one of his guests will be "Some Guy from the Zoo".
*Email [[origins]] — The book ''Ewww, Claire!! Why???'' has won "Some Award".
*[[Stinkoman 20X6]] — One of the game's [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items|bosses]] is called "An Ice Machine".
*[[Biz Cas Fri 1]] — Homestar tries to persuade Strong Bad to go to "Beach Themed Restaurant".
*Email [[modeling]] — There is a map which shows the locations of "Place" and "Land".
*[[Puppets on the Road]] — [[Shark-Tooth Bubs]] says that a regular stand has "a food" for sale.
*[[TrogdorCon '97]] — In an Easter egg, Strong Bad suggests someone wear "like five or six... more clothes...."
*[[Exaggerations]] — The picture that cycled through various puns in the original [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] simply reads "a joke" in the Exaggerations.
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]] — So and So is forced to take a summer job at Shirt Folding Store.
*Email [[cliffhangers]] — [[Coach Z]] and [[Homestar Runner]] accuse themselves of being [[The Thnikkaman]] and stealing the [[Lappy 486]], respectively, and try to cover it up by talking about "sports team".
*Email [[the chair]] — After Strong Bad and Strong Sad each get hurt while trying out [[Le Restige]] and the [[Styleron Ecochair]], each exclaims, "I can't feel my parts."
*Email [[looking old]] — [[Bubs]] sells "iTems".
*Email [[strong badathlon]] — An announcer on the television announces the upcoming "Cute little girl from sit-com sings patriotic song." Strong Bad acts as though he knows exactly which little girl is singing.
*[[Let us give TANKS!]] — [[Gunhaver]] salutes a flag marked "The Flag".
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 12]] — Boy 1 and Boy 2 are talking about "band name".
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]] — Strong Bad uses a robotic voice and claims to be "Nadine Automated Menu Burger" calling from "Trusted Financial Institution".
*[[Drive-Thru]] — The [[Drive-Thru Whale]] describes the week's toy as "brown". When this upsets [[The Cheat]], Strong Bad exclaims that they must be out of "blue ones". Later, in an Easter egg, Strong Bad asks for a "blue one" for The Cheat.
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 13]] — [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Momkins|Momkins]] says, "Listen, I'll be at a place until a time. My cell phone number is some numbers. The baby needs stuff."
*[[strongbad_email.exe Disc Five]] — the inside of the case lists "stuff, things, and more!" as bonus features.
*Email [[mini-golf]] — One of the places that Strong Bad calls out the name of is called "That Paintball Place Down the Street".
*Email [[hygiene]] — A pennant on the wall during the hygiene video reads "A sport!".
*[[Rap Song]] — Coach Z and [[Peacey P]] sing "Rap Song".
*Email [[yes, wrestling]] — [[The Announcer]] hosts an interview in "historic empty high school [[gymnasium]]".
*Email [[diorama]] — Strong Bad's fake book is decorated with "Some Award". Its summary is "A real book that exists," and it is allegedly printed by the "Actual Publishing Company".
*[[Population: Tire]] — The introduction states that "You ''are'' Soldier!"
*[[Happy Dethemberween]] — The narrator from the show that everyone was watching reappears and says The Decemberween Thnikkaman rides around in an unmarked van, clearly resembling the [[Baloney Sammich Truck]].
*Bubs's character video — [[Bubs]] claims to sell "drinks, drinks, drinks, candy and snow cones.

==See Also==
*[[Cold One]]
*[[Integral Article]]
*[[Secret Song]]
*[[Type]]
*[[TV Shows]]
*[[Circles]]
*[[Not X]]

[[Category:Word running gags]]

Nondescript Nouns

2008-01-05T19:55:12Z

Dynamite: /* Appearances */

[[Image:Place Postcard.PNG|thumb|Greetings from Place]]
'''Nondescript Nouns''' are simply generic [[Wikipedia:noun|nouns]] used where either a proper noun or a more specific common noun is expected. This has occurred numerous times in the [[Homestar Runner universe]].

==Appearances==
*[[Where My Hat is At?]] — [[Homestar Runner]] prepares for the "Big Game".
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]] — Homestar says that he represents "Distinguished Businessman".
**This line appears again in [[An Open Forum]].
*Email [[dullard]] — During the demonstration for "Method 3", Homestar tries to discuss last night's episode of "Popular Reality Show" with Strong Bad.
*Email [[vacation]] — [[Strong Bad]] sends postcards from such [[Strong Bad's Vacation Spots|locations]] as "That Clock" and historic "Over There".
*Email [[comic]] — Strong Bad creates [[Teen Girl Squad]], giving the main characters the nondescript names [[Cheerleader]], [[So and So]], [[What's Her Face]], and [[The Ugly One]].
*Email [[english paper]] — In an Easter egg we see a parody of eBay called [[Some Type of Online Auction]].
*[[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]] — Homestar orders red, blue, and orange drinks. He and the viewers also never find out for sure what Strong Bad and the others were pretending was the "thing in a bag".
*Email [[anything]] — The postcard for Fish Lake states that it's "Home of this fish". Additionally, Homestar gives Marzipan "Really Slow Old People Music", "Pretty Slow Old People Music", and "Very Slow Old People Music".
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]] — So and So carries a "Subject" textbook. Cheerleader asks [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Quarterback|Quarterback]] out.
*Email [[different town]] — At the end of the email, Strong Bad says "I'm gonna go... Place." Then, in an Easter egg, you can see a postcard from [[Place]].
*Email [[crying]] — At the end of the email, Strong Bad says he has "a food...in the oven."
*Email [[other days]] — Strong Bad's calendar has "A Month" written on the top. Homestar brags about his frag count in "Online Gaming".
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] — Strong Bad, under the alias "Bob Statesman", claims to be running for the office of "Elected Official".
*Email [[montage]] — Strong Bad announces one of his guests will be "Some Guy from the Zoo".
*Email [[origins]] — The book ''Ewww, Claire!! Why???'' has won "Some Award".
*[[Stinkoman 20X6]] — One of the game's [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items|bosses]] is called "An Ice Machine".
*[[Biz Cas Fri 1]] — Homestar tries to persuade Strong Bad to go to "Beach Themed Restaurant".
*Email [[modeling]] — There is a map which shows the locations of "Place" and "Land".
*[[Puppets on the Road]] — [[Shark-Tooth Bubs]] says that a regular stand has "a food" for sale.
*[[TrogdorCon '97]] — In an Easter egg, Strong Bad suggests someone wear "like five or six... more clothes...."
*[[Exaggerations]] — The picture that cycled through various puns in the original [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] simply reads "a joke" in the Exaggerations.
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]] — So and So is forced to take a summer job at Shirt Folding Store.
*Email [[cliffhangers]] — [[Coach Z]] and [[Homestar Runner]] accuse themselves of being [[The Thnikkaman]] and stealing the [[Lappy 486]], respectively, and try to cover it up by talking about "sports team".
*Email [[the chair]] — After Strong Bad and Strong Sad each get hurt while trying out [[Le Restige]] and the [[Styleron Ecochair]], each exclaims, "I can't feel my parts."
*Email [[looking old]] — [[Bubs]] sells "iTems".
*Email [[strong badathlon]] — An announcer on the television announces the upcoming "Cute little girl from sit-com sings patriotic song." Strong Bad acts as though he knows exactly which little girl is singing.
*[[Let us give TANKS!]] — [[Gunhaver]] salutes a flag marked "The Flag".
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 12]] — Boy 1 and Boy 2 are talking about "band name".
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]] — Strong Bad uses a robotic voice and claims to be "Nadine Automated Menu Burger" calling from "Trusted Financial Institution".
*[[Drive-Thru]] — The [[Drive-Thru Whale]] describes the week's toy as "brown". When this upsets [[The Cheat]], Strong Bad exclaims that they must be out of "blue ones". Later, in an Easter egg, Strong Bad asks for a "blue one" for The Cheat.
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 13]] — [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Momkins|Momkins]] says, "Listen, I'll be at a place until a time. My cell phone number is some numbers. The baby needs stuff."
*[[strongbad_email.exe Disc Five]] — the inside of the case lists "stuff, things, and more!" as bonus features.
*Email [[mini-golf]] — One of the places that Strong Bad calls out the name of is called "That Paintball Place Down the Street".
*Email [[hygiene]] — A pennant on the wall during the hygiene video reads "A sport!".
*[[Rap Song]] — Coach Z and [[Peacey P]] sing "Rap Song".
*Email [[yes, wrestling]] — [[The Announcer]] hosts an interview in "historic empty high school [[gymnasium]]".
*Email [[diorama]] — Strong Bad's fake book is decorated with "Some Award". Its summary is "A real book that exists," and it is allegedly printed by the "Actual Publishing Company".
*[[Population: Tire]] — The introduction states that "You ''are'' Soldier!"
*[[Happy Dethemberween]] — The narrator from the show that everyone was watching reappears and says The Decemberween Thnikkaman rides around in an unmarked van, clearly resembling the [[Baloney Sammich Truck]].

==See Also==
*[[Cold One]]
*[[Integral Article]]
*[[Secret Song]]
*[[Type]]
*[[TV Shows]]
*[[Circles]]
*[[Not X]]

[[Category:Word running gags]]

Nondescript Nouns

2008-01-05T19:54:21Z

Dynamite: /* Appearances */

[[Image:Place Postcard.PNG|thumb|Greetings from Place]]
'''Nondescript Nouns''' are simply generic [[Wikipedia:noun|nouns]] used where either a proper noun or a more specific common noun is expected. This has occurred numerous times in the [[Homestar Runner universe]].

==Appearances==
*[[Where My Hat is At?]] — [[Homestar Runner]] prepares for the "Big Game".
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]] — Homestar says that he represents "Distinguished Businessman".
**This line appears again in [[An Open Forum]].
*Email [[dullard]] — During the demonstration for "Method 3", Homestar tries to discuss last night's episode of "Popular Reality Show" with Strong Bad.
*Email [[vacation]] — [[Strong Bad]] sends postcards from such [[Strong Bad's Vacation Spots|locations]] as "That Clock" and historic "Over There".
*Email [[comic]] — Strong Bad creates [[Teen Girl Squad]], giving the main characters the nondescript names [[Cheerleader]], [[So and So]], [[What's Her Face]], and [[The Ugly One]].
*Email [[english paper]] — In an Easter egg we see a parody of eBay called [[Some Type of Online Auction]].
*[[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]] — Homestar orders red, blue, and orange drinks. He and the viewers also never find out for sure what Strong Bad and the others were pretending was the "thing in a bag".
*Email [[anything]] — The postcard for Fish Lake states that it's "Home of this fish". Additionally, Homestar gives Marzipan "Really Slow Old People Music", "Pretty Slow Old People Music", and "Very Slow Old People Music".
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]] — So and So carries a "Subject" textbook. Cheerleader asks [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Quarterback|Quarterback]] out.
*Email [[different town]] — At the end of the email, Strong Bad says "I'm gonna go... Place." Then, in an Easter egg, you can see a postcard from [[Place]].
*Email [[crying]] — At the end of the email, Strong Bad says he has "a food...in the oven."
*Email [[other days]] — Strong Bad's calendar has "A Month" written on the top. Homestar brags about his frag count in "Online Gaming".
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] — Strong Bad, under the alias "Bob Statesman", claims to be running for the office of "Elected Official".
*Email [[montage]] — Strong Bad announces one of his guests will be "Some Guy from the Zoo".
*Email [[origins]] — The book ''Ewww, Claire!! Why???'' has won "Some Award".
*[[Stinkoman 20X6]] — One of the game's [[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies and Items|bosses]] is called "An Ice Machine".
*[[Biz Cas Fri 1]] — Homestar tries to persuade Strong Bad to go to "Beach Themed Restaurant".
*Email [[modeling]] — There is a map which shows the locations of "Place" and "Land".
*[[Puppets on the Road]] — [[Shark-Tooth Bubs]] says that a regular stand has "a food" for sale.
*[[TrogdorCon '97]] — In an Easter egg, Strong Bad suggests someone wear "like five or six... more clothes...."
*[[Exaggerations]] — The picture that cycled through various puns in the original [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] simply reads "a joke" in the Exaggerations.
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]] — So and So is forced to take a summer job at Shirt Folding Store.
*Email [[cliffhangers]] — [[Coach Z]] and [[Homestar Runner]] accuse themselves of being [[The Thnikkaman]] and stealing the [[Lappy 486]], respectively, and try to cover it up by talking about "sports team".
*Email [[the chair]] — After Strong Bad and Strong Sad each get hurt while trying out [[Le Restige]] and the [[Styleron Ecochair]], each exclaims, "I can't feel my parts."
*Email [[looking old]] — [[Bubs]] sells "iTems".
*Email [[strong badathlon]] — An announcer on the television announces the upcoming "Cute little girl from sit-com sings patriotic song." Strong Bad acts as though he knows exactly which little girl is singing.
*[[Let us give TANKS!]] — [[Gunhaver]] salutes a flag marked "The Flag".
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 12]] — Boy 1 and Boy 2 are talking about "band name".
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]] — Strong Bad uses a robotic voice and claims to be "Nadine Automated Menu Burger" calling from "Trusted Financial Institution".
*[[Drive-Thru]] — The [[Drive-Thru Whale]] describes the week's toy as "brown". When this upsets [[The Cheat]], Strong Bad exclaims that they must be out of "blue ones". Later, in an Easter egg, Strong Bad asks for a "blue one" for The Cheat.
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 13]] — [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Momkins|Momkins]] says, "Listen, I'll be at a place until a time. My cell phone number is some numbers. The baby needs stuff."
*[[strongbad_email.exe Disc Five]] — the inside of the case lists "stuff, things, and more!" as bonus features.
*Email [[mini-golf]] — One of the places that Strong Bad calls out the name of is called "That Paintball Place Down the Street".
*Email [[hygiene]] — A pennant on the wall during the hygiene video reads "A sport!".
*[[Rap Song]] — Coach Z and [[Peacey P]] sing "Rap Song".
*Email [[yes, wrestling]] — [[The Announcer]] hosts an interview in "historic empty high school [[gymnasium]]".
*Email [[diorama]] — Strong Bad's fake book is decorated with "Some Award". Its summary is "A real book that exists," and it is allegedly printed by the "Actual Publishing Company".
*[[Population: Tire]] — The introduction states that "You ''are'' Soldier!"
*[[Happy Dethemberween]] — The narrator from the show that everyone was watching reappears and says The Decemberween Thnikkaman rides around in an unmarked van, clearly the [[Baloney Sammich Truck]].

==See Also==
*[[Cold One]]
*[[Integral Article]]
*[[Secret Song]]
*[[Type]]
*[[TV Shows]]
*[[Circles]]
*[[Not X]]

[[Category:Word running gags]]

keep cool

2008-01-05T04:13:34Z

Dynamite: /* Inside References */

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[[Image:Keep cool.PNG|thumb|"Cool Time, Pool Time!"]]

Strong Bad explains how he keeps cool in the summer.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Badia]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Stick]], [[The Brick Wall]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[Swimming Pool]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, July 31, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 3:33

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Five}}

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{rapping}'' I'll take you back to a time when e-mail was king! ''{brings up the email}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: Oh man,,,</div>
How hot is it right now in Strongbadia? We're boiling over 
here. What do you do to keep cool? 
 
Tom B 
Sunnyvale, CA
</blockquote>

''{After "Strongbadia", a record scratches, the screen dims and another Strong Bad appears.}''

'''SECOND STRONG BAD:''' Note to viewers:

''{Screen cuts to Strong Badia. A cutout in the shape of Strong Bad labeled "sb" is shown.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ''This'' is Strong Badia.

''{Screen cuts to Bubs' Concession Stand, with a similar cutout for Bubs labeled "bubs".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Not this...

''{Screen cuts to Strong Bad's basement, with a cutout of Strong Mad labeled "graw mad".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ...this...

''{Screen cuts to The Stick, with a cutout of Homestar labeled "ds".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ...or this.

''{Cut back to Strong Badia.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Just this.

''{Cut back to the still-dimmed Lappy.}''

'''SECOND STRONG BAD:''' We clear? Now gimme five.

''{The second Strong Bad holds up his left hand, and then disappears as the rest of the screen returns to normal and the original Strong Bad finishes reading the email. He reads "CA" as "Cactus Area."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I'm not exactly sure how hot it is round here, Tomby. But we do have an old-timey, made-uppy, no-worky way of finding out.

''{Cut to Strong Sad, sleeping on a brick wall. A book labeled "Mr. Chekhov" is next to him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' We carefully place a spoonful...

''{Strong Bad and Strong Mad rise from behind Strong Sad, and Strong Bad places a spoon of sauce on Strong Sad's head.}

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ...of hoisin sauce on Strong Sad's disturbing soft-serve flip. ''{pause}'' And then we just... ask him.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey!

''{Strong Bad hits Strong Sad, who wakes up.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Trundle bed, how hot it is right now?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Current temperature: ninety-seven, ninety-eight degrees... humidity: twenty-five percent... ''{Strong Bad and Strong Mad slowly start to leave, making a tapping noise as they do.}'' barometric pressure's thirty point oh five inches mercury... I'm gonna eat this spoonful of hoisin sauce...

''{Strong Sad grabs the spoon from off his head and opens his mouth to eat the sauce. But before he does, we cut to the edge of the wall, where Strong Bad and Strong Mad are standing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You hear that?! The high nineties!

''{Strong Bad pulls out a paper titled "[[#Trivia|Monkey D's Summer Tips]]". The screen cuts to a closeup of the paper.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You know what that means!

''{Cut to Strong Bad and Strong Mad. Music starts. Strong Bad jumps up in the air, whilst Strong Mad raises his hands up.}''

'''STRONG BAD AND STRONG MAD:''' COOL TIME, POOL TIME!!!

'''STRONG BAD:''' In the pool that we've always had... ''{Strong Mad looks surprised}'' that we use all the time... and the school has always had an elevator!

''{Cut to Marzipan's couch. Marzipan is sitting on it. Homestar Runner pops up in the foreground.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Cool time!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Pool time!

''{Cut to Bubs' Concession Stand, where Coach Z is leaning on the counter.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Cool time?

'''BUBS:''' Pool time!

''{Cut to the Field, where Pom Pom and The Poopsmith are standing.}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbles}''

''{The Poopsmith gives him the thumbs-up.}''

''{Cut to the Pool. Strong Bad is sitting in the lifeguard's chair. Coach Z walks past in the background with a barrel over him. Bubs floats with inflatable water wings on his arms. The Cheat skims across the surface of the water quickly twice. Cut to a closeup on Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, ya little sacks of crap, just so I never have to use this weird foamy thing, ''{He kicks a floatation device hanging from his perch.}'' lemme explain the pool rules.

''{A paper reading "POOL RULES" appears. Strong Bad reads along.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Welcome to our 'ool. (Notice there is no "Take a crap in it" in it. Please keep it that way. 

''{Cut to The Poopsmith, wearing a Nebulon flotation device and testing the water with his foot.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Poopsmith, don't even try it.

''{A Nebulon-esque sound is heard as The Poopsmith hangs his head. Cut back to Strong Bad. The Pool Rules sheet returns, and the following rules get added with illustrations as Strong Bad mentions them. The pictures are: A horse head holding a knife in its mouth, a house with a blast behind it and its walls and roof falling in, and a person's butt with a hand on it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Also, no rough-horsing, no house-rousing, no butt-patting.

'''COACH Z:''' ''{offscreen}'' Aw, nuts!

'''STRONG BAD:''' And no running, no diving, no swimming.

''{Cut back to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' But that last one is not very widely enforced. But most importantly, after you eat, wait three full days, get a complete physical, have an ear candling, and press UP, A and START before re-entering the pool.

''{Strong Bad looks at Marzipan, whose ponytail has a green tinge and the very tip of it is smoldering. The burn is slowly making its way up her ponytail, burning it off during the whole scene.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Strong Bad, what did you put in this pool water?

'''STRONG BAD:''' I dunno... chemicals, whatever was under the sink.

''{Cut to a pile of chemical containers and a bottle of Awesome Sauce.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You gotta put chemicals in the pool, right? That's what they say. ''{Pause}'' And that is ''all'' that they say.

''{Cut back to Strong Bad and Marzipan}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{suddenly smiling}'' Well, whatever it is, it's doing wonders for my hair. I can feel it tingling.

''{Cut to stormy clouds, faint flashes of lightning, and the sound of thunder. Cut back to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in sing-song voice}'' Lightning. ''{in a normal voice}'' You guys know the drill.

''{Cut to Bubs, Strong Mad, and The Cheat leaving the pool}''

'''STRONG MAD and THE CHEAT:''' ''{groans and The Cheat noises}''

'''BUBS''': Man!

''{Homestar Runner, Coach Z, and The King of Town walk through the pool carrying a TV antenna, golf clubs, and an umbrella, respectively. They stop in the middle of the pool.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER, COACH Z and THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{sighs and groans}''

''{Cut to Strong Bad talking with Bubs at the lifeguard chair}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So later on anybody wanna get together a game of "Sharks and Minnows"? "Einstein and Kreskin"? "Pregnant and seventeen"?

'''BUBS:''' ''{points toward the diving board}'' Uh-oh! Looks like we should be playin' "Keep Strong Mad off the freakin' high dive for Pete's sake, man!"

''{Strong Mad jumps off of a high-dive}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' MANNONBALL!


''{Strong Mad takes the shape of a cannonball and makes a tiny splash in the water. There is a short pause. Suddenly, all of the water is splashed out of the pool. Shadows of The Cheat, Coach Z, the lifeguard tower, Strong Bad, and Homestar are seen through the wave. Cut back to Strong Bad's computer. Strong Bad crashes in through the ceiling. Water splashes down on him. He looks up}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I should really just stop patching that hole. ''{typing}'' Well, it looks like pool season's over. Guess I have to start Back2School shopping. Get some new pencil holders... ''{Homestar can be heard screaming in the background}'' stencil folders...

''{Homestar lands on top of Strong Bad}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh, Strong Bad, I think that total wave ruined your 'ool.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{groaning}'' Ah... I... breaky... spiney...

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
* Click on CA when Strong Bad says "Sunnyvale, Cactus Area" to see a menu:

<blockquote>
Cactus Area 
"The most boring Mexican restaurant on Earth" 
''{picture of a circle around two [[Wikipedia:saguaro|saguaros]] and the word "Sombrero".}'' 
(Yes, we know what salsa is now!)</blockquote>

* Click on the Lappy's screen at the end to see Strong Sad continuing his weather forecast:

:'''STRONG SAD:''' Wind sou'-sou'west at 10 miles per hour. Sunset at 8:45 PM. ''{The King of Town slowly comes up behind him}'' Baseball games at two, eleven, and three. ''{The King of Town puts a cherry on Strong Sad's head and pulls out a can of "Lard Wipt"}''

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*A [[Wikipedia:Trundle bed|Trundle bed]] is a low bed that can be rolled under another bed for storage.
*[[Wikipedia:Ear candling|Ear candling]], also known as ear coning, is a folk remedy purporting to use the heat from a specialized candle to remove wax and debris from the ear.
*[[Minor Foods#Hoisin Sauce|Hoisin Sauce]] is a type of Chinese dipping sauce made from soybeans, garlic, and spices.
*"Rough-horsing" is a play on the words roughhousing and horseplay, which signify rowdy playing or play fighting.
*Marzipan's hair turning green is a reference to the reactions to [[Wikipedia: chlorine|chlorine]] on blond hair.
*Strong Bad's advice that "after you eat, wait three full days, get a complete physical," and so on, is a reference to the urban legend that one must [[snopes:oldwives/hourwait.asp|wait an hour after eating]] before swimming so as to prevent cramps.
*When Strong Bad is pointing out places that are Strong Badia and places which are not, the scenes with the cut-out figures are modeled after pages from children's sticker books in which the goal is to place the proper sticker in the right blank area on the page.

===Trivia===
*Strong Bad's paper reads:
<div style="text-align:center; padding:8px; border: 1pt solid #000; width:300px">Monkey D's Summer Tips 95°-100°=COOL TIME, POOL TIME!!! 90°-95°=Grip n' Glide time,                               Slide n' Slide time 85°-90°=Tinkler time, Sprinkler time 80°-85°=Nose time, Hose time 
 </div>
*In the pile of chemical bottles, there is a bottle of Bleach juice, which claims to contain −4% fruit juice (a possible parody of many modern "fruit drinks," which are composed mainly of water and artificial ingredients).
*Mannonball is a [[portmanteau]].

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad's explaining the difference between Strong Badia and the other parts of [[Free Country, USA]], is one of the most abrupt [[fourth wall breaks]] to date.
*Strong Bad clearly explains the extent of Strong Badia, and then immediately leaves it (going to The Brick Wall near Homestar's house) to get the meteorological information.
*An air temperature of 97° [[Wikipedia:Fahrenheit|Fahrenheit]] (36° [[Wikipedia:Celsius|Celsius]]) with a relative humidity of 25% puts the dew point at approximately 55° F (13° C), low enough to make the heat index approximately 95° F (35° C). While the air temperature may be quite warm, the humidity would not be too terribly uncomfortable. A wind speed of 10 mph (16 km/h) would also keep the air from becoming too oppressive.
*This marks the first time viewers have seen the King of Town's exposed shoulder area, further reinforcing the fact that he doesn't have [[Lack of Visible Arms|visible arms]].
*The Pool Rules state there is no diving, despite the fact that there is a diving board. However, there's also a rule forbidding swimming even though it's a swimming pool.
*When Strong Bad jumps out from behind the wall, his legs are an older version.
*When Homestar lands on Strong Bad, neither the new [[No Loafing sign]] or the old one is anywhere to be seen.
*Strong Bad mentions that, after eating, you must have an ear candling before reentering the pool. None of the main characters have visible ears.
*While Homestar and the King of Town wear swimsuits to the pool, Coach Z, Bubs, Strong Mad, and Marzipan appear as they normally do, wearing their usual outfits as if they were swimsuits (although Coach Z adds a barrel).
* Strong Bad's farmer tan (tanned except in an area where a tank top would be) is curious considering that Strong Bad has only on very rare occasions been seen with a shirt.

===Goofs===
*The Pool Rules sign doesn't have a closing parenthesis.
**Since the asterisk (*) and opening parenthesis are closer together on a keyboard, the opening parenthesis may have been typed by mistake.
*Clicking on the Lappy's screen after Strong Bad starts typing after he falls from the ceiling does not cause the usual ripple.
*When Strong Bad places the Hoisin Sauce on Strong Sad's head, the reflection of the sun is facing in the opposite direction of the sun.

===Inside References===
[[Image:Keepcool stoppatchnhole.png|thumb|"I should really just stop patching that hole."]]
*The disk in the [[floppy disk container]] is the same one found in [[disconnected]].
*The "ds" on the Homestar Runner cutout might stand for "Duckshirt" or "Dumbstar", two [[Nicknames#Homestar Runner|nicknames]] Strong Bad has used for Homestar in the past.
*Strong Bad's calling Strong Sad "[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]]" (a restaurant famous for its soft-serve ice cream products) in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]] is related to his describing Strong Sad's head as having a "soft-serve flip" in this toon although, adding more mystery to the subject, Strong Sad said that he "made a mistake" as to why Strong Bad should stop calling him that, leading away from this thought.
*Strong Bad's reference to the pool's existence refers to the pool scenes from [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] and the [[Theme Song Video]]. Since the Theme Song Video, the pool has not been seen until this email.
**Also, in the commentary for [[In Search of the Yello Dello Commentary|In Search of the Yello Dello]], Strong Sad mentions that everyone in school suddenly started being nice to him because he had a pool. This backs up Strong Bad's assertion that they've always had the pool.
*The Poopsmith uses a [[Nebulon]] floating tube; when Strong Bad tells him that he can't get in the pool, the Nebulon [[sound effect]] is played.
*The nickname "Graw Mad" is a reference to [[the facts]].
*Strong Bad's tan lines were first seen in [[lures & jigs]].
*The patch of sunscreen on Strong Bad's face is a reference to a running gag that he [[Lack of Visible Body Parts#Strong Bad.27s Nose|has no nose]].
*In the pile of chemical containers, there is some "[[Roach Killa!]]" from [[bedtime story]] and some "Awesome Sauce" which was mentioned in [[funny]] (though this is "Awesome Sauce for her").
[[Image:bottles.png|thumb|For Her?]]
*Homestar's swimsuit is the same as the one he wears in [[Theme Song Video]], only updated to fit the current animation style.
*[[Monkey D]] contributes his "summer tips".
*Strong Bad's remark explaining that he "should really stop patching that hole" refers to [[pom pom]], when he fell through the roof in a similar fashion.
*Back2School was first mentioned in [[modeling]].
*[[Hoisin Sauce]] was previously mentioned in the Homsar Easter egg in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]

===Real-World References===
*This email was released during an actual heat wave in the [[Wikipedia:2006 United States heat wave|United States]], Canada, and much of [[Wikipedia:2006 European heat wave|Europe]]. [[Wikipedia:Sunnyvale, California|Sunnyvale]] itself had just suffered a two-week period of unusually hot weather, responsible for 83 heat-related deaths in California.
*[[Wikipedia:Anton Chekhov|Anton Chekhov]] is a Russian writer. [[Wikipedia:Pavel Chekov|Pavel Chekov]], a character on [[Wikipedia:Star Trek: The Original Series|Star Trek]], was often referred to as "Mr. Chekov." It is not clear from context whether the intended reference is to one or both of these people.
*The second item on "Monkey D's Summer Tips" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Slip 'N Slide|Slip 'N Slide]] water toy.
*Strong Bad's "Welcome to our 'ool" sign is a parody of a popular [http://www.flickr.com/photos/thecampbell/209540717/ "Pool Rules" sign] that states "Welcome to our ool. Notice there's no 'P' in it. Let's keep it this way."
*Strong Bad's command to "press UP, A, and START before re-entering the pool" is a reference to the manner in which various [[Wikipedia:Cheat code|cheat codes]] are entered on video game consoles, such as the [[Nintendo|Nintendo Entertainment System]].
*Marzipan's comment "I can feel it tingling" is a reference to commercials for medicated anti-dandruff shampoos, particularly [[Wikipedia:Selsun Blue|Selsun Blue]], that use tingling as an indication that the product is working.
*Einstein and Kreskin refer to [[Wikipedia:Albert Einstein|Albert Einstein]] (world-famous physicist) and [[Wikipedia:Amazing Kreskin|The Amazing Kreskin]] (sort-of-famous mentalist).
*The manner in which Strong Sad reports the weather is very similar to the style of [[Wikipedia:NOAA Weather Radio|NOAA Weather Radio]], which uses synthesized voices to read weather information.

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
{{sectionstub}}

==External Links==
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[[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]

keep cool

2008-01-05T04:00:56Z

Dynamite: /* Explanations */

{{sbenav|154}}
[[Image:Keep cool.PNG|thumb|"Cool Time, Pool Time!"]]

Strong Bad explains how he keeps cool in the summer.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Badia]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Stick]], [[The Brick Wall]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[Swimming Pool]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, July 31, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 3:33

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Five}}

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{rapping}'' I'll take you back to a time when e-mail was king! ''{brings up the email}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: Oh man,,,</div>
How hot is it right now in Strongbadia? We're boiling over 
here. What do you do to keep cool? 
 
Tom B 
Sunnyvale, CA
</blockquote>

''{After "Strongbadia", a record scratches, the screen dims and another Strong Bad appears.}''

'''SECOND STRONG BAD:''' Note to viewers:

''{Screen cuts to Strong Badia. A cutout in the shape of Strong Bad labeled "sb" is shown.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ''This'' is Strong Badia.

''{Screen cuts to Bubs' Concession Stand, with a similar cutout for Bubs labeled "bubs".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Not this...

''{Screen cuts to Strong Bad's basement, with a cutout of Strong Mad labeled "graw mad".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ...this...

''{Screen cuts to The Stick, with a cutout of Homestar labeled "ds".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ...or this.

''{Cut back to Strong Badia.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Just this.

''{Cut back to the still-dimmed Lappy.}''

'''SECOND STRONG BAD:''' We clear? Now gimme five.

''{The second Strong Bad holds up his left hand, and then disappears as the rest of the screen returns to normal and the original Strong Bad finishes reading the email. He reads "CA" as "Cactus Area."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I'm not exactly sure how hot it is round here, Tomby. But we do have an old-timey, made-uppy, no-worky way of finding out.

''{Cut to Strong Sad, sleeping on a brick wall. A book labeled "Mr. Chekhov" is next to him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' We carefully place a spoonful...

''{Strong Bad and Strong Mad rise from behind Strong Sad, and Strong Bad places a spoon of sauce on Strong Sad's head.}

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ...of hoisin sauce on Strong Sad's disturbing soft-serve flip. ''{pause}'' And then we just... ask him.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey!

''{Strong Bad hits Strong Sad, who wakes up.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Trundle bed, how hot it is right now?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Current temperature: ninety-seven, ninety-eight degrees... humidity: twenty-five percent... ''{Strong Bad and Strong Mad slowly start to leave, making a tapping noise as they do.}'' barometric pressure's thirty point oh five inches mercury... I'm gonna eat this spoonful of hoisin sauce...

''{Strong Sad grabs the spoon from off his head and opens his mouth to eat the sauce. But before he does, we cut to the edge of the wall, where Strong Bad and Strong Mad are standing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You hear that?! The high nineties!

''{Strong Bad pulls out a paper titled "[[#Trivia|Monkey D's Summer Tips]]". The screen cuts to a closeup of the paper.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You know what that means!

''{Cut to Strong Bad and Strong Mad. Music starts. Strong Bad jumps up in the air, whilst Strong Mad raises his hands up.}''

'''STRONG BAD AND STRONG MAD:''' COOL TIME, POOL TIME!!!

'''STRONG BAD:''' In the pool that we've always had... ''{Strong Mad looks surprised}'' that we use all the time... and the school has always had an elevator!

''{Cut to Marzipan's couch. Marzipan is sitting on it. Homestar Runner pops up in the foreground.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Cool time!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Pool time!

''{Cut to Bubs' Concession Stand, where Coach Z is leaning on the counter.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Cool time?

'''BUBS:''' Pool time!

''{Cut to the Field, where Pom Pom and The Poopsmith are standing.}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbles}''

''{The Poopsmith gives him the thumbs-up.}''

''{Cut to the Pool. Strong Bad is sitting in the lifeguard's chair. Coach Z walks past in the background with a barrel over him. Bubs floats with inflatable water wings on his arms. The Cheat skims across the surface of the water quickly twice. Cut to a closeup on Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, ya little sacks of crap, just so I never have to use this weird foamy thing, ''{He kicks a floatation device hanging from his perch.}'' lemme explain the pool rules.

''{A paper reading "POOL RULES" appears. Strong Bad reads along.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Welcome to our 'ool. (Notice there is no "Take a crap in it" in it. Please keep it that way. 

''{Cut to The Poopsmith, wearing a Nebulon flotation device and testing the water with his foot.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Poopsmith, don't even try it.

''{A Nebulon-esque sound is heard as The Poopsmith hangs his head. Cut back to Strong Bad. The Pool Rules sheet returns, and the following rules get added with illustrations as Strong Bad mentions them. The pictures are: A horse head holding a knife in its mouth, a house with a blast behind it and its walls and roof falling in, and a person's butt with a hand on it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Also, no rough-horsing, no house-rousing, no butt-patting.

'''COACH Z:''' ''{offscreen}'' Aw, nuts!

'''STRONG BAD:''' And no running, no diving, no swimming.

''{Cut back to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' But that last one is not very widely enforced. But most importantly, after you eat, wait three full days, get a complete physical, have an ear candling, and press UP, A and START before re-entering the pool.

''{Strong Bad looks at Marzipan, whose ponytail has a green tinge and the very tip of it is smoldering. The burn is slowly making its way up her ponytail, burning it off during the whole scene.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Strong Bad, what did you put in this pool water?

'''STRONG BAD:''' I dunno... chemicals, whatever was under the sink.

''{Cut to a pile of chemical containers and a bottle of Awesome Sauce.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You gotta put chemicals in the pool, right? That's what they say. ''{Pause}'' And that is ''all'' that they say.

''{Cut back to Strong Bad and Marzipan}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{suddenly smiling}'' Well, whatever it is, it's doing wonders for my hair. I can feel it tingling.

''{Cut to stormy clouds, faint flashes of lightning, and the sound of thunder. Cut back to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in sing-song voice}'' Lightning. ''{in a normal voice}'' You guys know the drill.

''{Cut to Bubs, Strong Mad, and The Cheat leaving the pool}''

'''STRONG MAD and THE CHEAT:''' ''{groans and The Cheat noises}''

'''BUBS''': Man!

''{Homestar Runner, Coach Z, and The King of Town walk through the pool carrying a TV antenna, golf clubs, and an umbrella, respectively. They stop in the middle of the pool.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER, COACH Z and THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{sighs and groans}''

''{Cut to Strong Bad talking with Bubs at the lifeguard chair}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So later on anybody wanna get together a game of "Sharks and Minnows"? "Einstein and Kreskin"? "Pregnant and seventeen"?

'''BUBS:''' ''{points toward the diving board}'' Uh-oh! Looks like we should be playin' "Keep Strong Mad off the freakin' high dive for Pete's sake, man!"

''{Strong Mad jumps off of a high-dive}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' MANNONBALL!


''{Strong Mad takes the shape of a cannonball and makes a tiny splash in the water. There is a short pause. Suddenly, all of the water is splashed out of the pool. Shadows of The Cheat, Coach Z, the lifeguard tower, Strong Bad, and Homestar are seen through the wave. Cut back to Strong Bad's computer. Strong Bad crashes in through the ceiling. Water splashes down on him. He looks up}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I should really just stop patching that hole. ''{typing}'' Well, it looks like pool season's over. Guess I have to start Back2School shopping. Get some new pencil holders... ''{Homestar can be heard screaming in the background}'' stencil folders...

''{Homestar lands on top of Strong Bad}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh, Strong Bad, I think that total wave ruined your 'ool.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{groaning}'' Ah... I... breaky... spiney...

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
* Click on CA when Strong Bad says "Sunnyvale, Cactus Area" to see a menu:

<blockquote>
Cactus Area 
"The most boring Mexican restaurant on Earth" 
''{picture of a circle around two [[Wikipedia:saguaro|saguaros]] and the word "Sombrero".}'' 
(Yes, we know what salsa is now!)</blockquote>

* Click on the Lappy's screen at the end to see Strong Sad continuing his weather forecast:

:'''STRONG SAD:''' Wind sou'-sou'west at 10 miles per hour. Sunset at 8:45 PM. ''{The King of Town slowly comes up behind him}'' Baseball games at two, eleven, and three. ''{The King of Town puts a cherry on Strong Sad's head and pulls out a can of "Lard Wipt"}''

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*A [[Wikipedia:Trundle bed|Trundle bed]] is a low bed that can be rolled under another bed for storage.
*[[Wikipedia:Ear candling|Ear candling]], also known as ear coning, is a folk remedy purporting to use the heat from a specialized candle to remove wax and debris from the ear.
*[[Minor Foods#Hoisin Sauce|Hoisin Sauce]] is a type of Chinese dipping sauce made from soybeans, garlic, and spices.
*"Rough-horsing" is a play on the words roughhousing and horseplay, which signify rowdy playing or play fighting.
*Marzipan's hair turning green is a reference to the reactions to [[Wikipedia: chlorine|chlorine]] on blond hair.
*Strong Bad's advice that "after you eat, wait three full days, get a complete physical," and so on, is a reference to the urban legend that one must [[snopes:oldwives/hourwait.asp|wait an hour after eating]] before swimming so as to prevent cramps.
*When Strong Bad is pointing out places that are Strong Badia and places which are not, the scenes with the cut-out figures are modeled after pages from children's sticker books in which the goal is to place the proper sticker in the right blank area on the page.

===Trivia===
*Strong Bad's paper reads:
<div style="text-align:center; padding:8px; border: 1pt solid #000; width:300px">Monkey D's Summer Tips 95°-100°=COOL TIME, POOL TIME!!! 90°-95°=Grip n' Glide time,                               Slide n' Slide time 85°-90°=Tinkler time, Sprinkler time 80°-85°=Nose time, Hose time 
 </div>
*In the pile of chemical bottles, there is a bottle of Bleach juice, which claims to contain −4% fruit juice (a possible parody of many modern "fruit drinks," which are composed mainly of water and artificial ingredients).
*Mannonball is a [[portmanteau]].

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad's explaining the difference between Strong Badia and the other parts of [[Free Country, USA]], is one of the most abrupt [[fourth wall breaks]] to date.
*Strong Bad clearly explains the extent of Strong Badia, and then immediately leaves it (going to The Brick Wall near Homestar's house) to get the meteorological information.
*An air temperature of 97° [[Wikipedia:Fahrenheit|Fahrenheit]] (36° [[Wikipedia:Celsius|Celsius]]) with a relative humidity of 25% puts the dew point at approximately 55° F (13° C), low enough to make the heat index approximately 95° F (35° C). While the air temperature may be quite warm, the humidity would not be too terribly uncomfortable. A wind speed of 10 mph (16 km/h) would also keep the air from becoming too oppressive.
*This marks the first time viewers have seen the King of Town's exposed shoulder area, further reinforcing the fact that he doesn't have [[Lack of Visible Arms|visible arms]].
*The Pool Rules state there is no diving, despite the fact that there is a diving board. However, there's also a rule forbidding swimming even though it's a swimming pool.
*When Strong Bad jumps out from behind the wall, his legs are an older version.
*When Homestar lands on Strong Bad, neither the new [[No Loafing sign]] or the old one is anywhere to be seen.
*Strong Bad mentions that, after eating, you must have an ear candling before reentering the pool. None of the main characters have visible ears.
*While Homestar and the King of Town wear swimsuits to the pool, Coach Z, Bubs, Strong Mad, and Marzipan appear as they normally do, wearing their usual outfits as if they were swimsuits (although Coach Z adds a barrel).
* Strong Bad's farmer tan (tanned except in an area where a tank top would be) is curious considering that Strong Bad has only on very rare occasions been seen with a shirt.

===Goofs===
*The Pool Rules sign doesn't have a closing parenthesis.
**Since the asterisk (*) and opening parenthesis are closer together on a keyboard, the opening parenthesis may have been typed by mistake.
*Clicking on the Lappy's screen after Strong Bad starts typing after he falls from the ceiling does not cause the usual ripple.
*When Strong Bad places the Hoisin Sauce on Strong Sad's head, the reflection of the sun is facing in the opposite direction of the sun.

===Inside References===
[[Image:Keepcool stoppatchnhole.png|thumb|"I should really just stop patching that hole."]]
*The disk in the [[floppy disk container]] is the same one found in [[disconnected]].
*The "ds" on the Homestar Runner cutout might stand for "Duckshirt" or "Dumbstar", two [[Nicknames#Homestar Runner|nicknames]] Strong Bad has used for Homestar in the past.
*Strong Bad's calling Strong Sad "[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]]" (a restaurant famous for its soft-serve ice cream products) in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]] is related to his describing Strong Sad's head as having a "soft-serve flip" in this toon.
*Strong Bad's reference to the pool's existence refers to the pool scenes from [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] and the [[Theme Song Video]]. Since the Theme Song Video, the pool has not been seen until this email.
**Also, in the commentary for [[In Search of the Yello Dello Commentary|In Search of the Yello Dello]], Strong Sad mentions that everyone in school suddenly started being nice to him because he had a pool. This backs up Strong Bad's assertion that they've always had the pool.
*The Poopsmith uses a [[Nebulon]] floating tube; when Strong Bad tells him that he can't get in the pool, the Nebulon [[sound effect]] is played.
*The nickname "Graw Mad" is a reference to [[the facts]].
*Strong Bad's tan lines were first seen in [[lures & jigs]].
*The patch of sunscreen on Strong Bad's face is a reference to a running gag that he [[Lack of Visible Body Parts#Strong Bad.27s Nose|has no nose]].
*In the pile of chemical containers, there is some "[[Roach Killa!]]" from [[bedtime story]] and some "Awesome Sauce" which was mentioned in [[funny]] (though this is "Awesome Sauce for her").
[[Image:bottles.png|thumb|For Her?]]
*Homestar's swimsuit is the same as the one he wears in [[Theme Song Video]], only updated to fit the current animation style.
*[[Monkey D]] contributes his "summer tips".
*Strong Bad's remark explaining that he "should really stop patching that hole" refers to [[pom pom]], when he fell through the roof in a similar fashion.
*Back2School was first mentioned in [[modeling]].
*[[Hoisin Sauce]] was previously mentioned in the Homsar Easter egg in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]

===Real-World References===
*This email was released during an actual heat wave in the [[Wikipedia:2006 United States heat wave|United States]], Canada, and much of [[Wikipedia:2006 European heat wave|Europe]]. [[Wikipedia:Sunnyvale, California|Sunnyvale]] itself had just suffered a two-week period of unusually hot weather, responsible for 83 heat-related deaths in California.
*[[Wikipedia:Anton Chekhov|Anton Chekhov]] is a Russian writer. [[Wikipedia:Pavel Chekov|Pavel Chekov]], a character on [[Wikipedia:Star Trek: The Original Series|Star Trek]], was often referred to as "Mr. Chekov." It is not clear from context whether the intended reference is to one or both of these people.
*The second item on "Monkey D's Summer Tips" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Slip 'N Slide|Slip 'N Slide]] water toy.
*Strong Bad's "Welcome to our 'ool" sign is a parody of a popular [http://www.flickr.com/photos/thecampbell/209540717/ "Pool Rules" sign] that states "Welcome to our ool. Notice there's no 'P' in it. Let's keep it this way."
*Strong Bad's command to "press UP, A, and START before re-entering the pool" is a reference to the manner in which various [[Wikipedia:Cheat code|cheat codes]] are entered on video game consoles, such as the [[Nintendo|Nintendo Entertainment System]].
*Marzipan's comment "I can feel it tingling" is a reference to commercials for medicated anti-dandruff shampoos, particularly [[Wikipedia:Selsun Blue|Selsun Blue]], that use tingling as an indication that the product is working.
*Einstein and Kreskin refer to [[Wikipedia:Albert Einstein|Albert Einstein]] (world-famous physicist) and [[Wikipedia:Amazing Kreskin|The Amazing Kreskin]] (sort-of-famous mentalist).
*The manner in which Strong Sad reports the weather is very similar to the style of [[Wikipedia:NOAA Weather Radio|NOAA Weather Radio]], which uses synthesized voices to read weather information.

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
{{sectionstub}}

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|154|9311}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]

Emails Taken in a Different Direction

2008-01-05T03:20:14Z

Dynamite: /* Appearances */

{{rename}}
[[Image:Choose Your Own Strong Bad Email Adventure.PNG|thumb|Do you want to take it in a different direction?]]
Sometimes when [[Strong Bad]] answers an [[Strong Bad Emails|email]], he '''disregards the content of the email or does the complete opposite'''.

==Appearances==
*Email [[homsar]] — Vinnie C. suggests that if Strong Bad hates Homsar, most likely a misspelling of [[Homestar]] so much, he should kill him. Strong Bad, however, takes this literally, leading him to kill [[Homsar]] instead. (This may have been intentional in order to keep Strong Bad from actually killing Homestar, and maybe to also introduce a new character to The Homestar Runner Body of Work)
*Email [[1 step ahead]] — One of the choices is to TAKE IT IN A BIT OF A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. If this choice is picked, Strong Bad does, in fact, take it in a different direction by gluing [[Strong Sad]]'s hands to his butt instead of his face.
*Email [[spring cleaning]] — Strong Bad [[DELETED!|deletes]] each email instead of doing what it suggests.
*Email [[superhero name]] — [[Strong Badman Characters#Stiny|Stiny]] asks about Strong Bad's name, but Strong Bad instead makes fun of Stiny's.
*Email [[gimmicks]] — Strong Bad is reminded of the times when he didn't need a gimmick to be funny, shortly before his computer explodes.
*Email [[big white face]] — Jen C. asks Strong Bad why he is mean to the guy with the big white face and gray body (clearly referring to Strong Sad). Strong Bad replies by trying to do something nice for [[The Poopsmith]] by baking him a cake, but instead throws the cake at Strong Sad and he has to make [[The Cheat]] make him another one.
*Email [[stupid stuff]] — Kevin Grumbles asks Strong Bad to make Homestar say something stupid, but instead he tries to earn [[Grumblecakes]] by making Homestar say something smart.
*Email [[dangeresque 3]] — The sender asks when Dangeresque 3 is coming out, and instead Strong Bad shows a remastered version of Dangeresque 1.
*Email [[old comics]] — Zack asks why [[The King of Town]] has a poopsmith, but instead Strong Bad talks about the time they apparently had their own old syndicated newspaper comic called [[The Castlefunnies]].
*Email [[origins]] — Strong Bad pointedly refuses to talk about the origins of [[The Stick]], and instead goes on a tangent about the Stick's hangingoutitude and the formation of the [[On Point Kings]].
*Email [[what I want]] — Talon Jendro asks Strong Bad what he would like for [[Decemberween]], but instead Strong Bad focuses on a list of presents he would ''not'' want.
*Email [[looking old]] — Andy Hsiao asks Strong Bad how old he is, but instead he tells us his [[age]] is a secret.
*Email [[strong badathlon]] — Lewis Rudkin asks Strong Bad to either through The Cheat as far as he could or beat the crud out of Homestar. Strong Bad instead talks about a contest held in [[Strong Badia]] called the [[Strong Badathlon (contest)|Strong Badathlon]].
*Email [[unnatural]] — Strong Bad is asked if Strong Badia ever has natural disasters, but instead talks about unnatural disasters, like the time [[Bubs]] became the giant [[King Bubsgonzola Supreme]].
*Email [[yes, wrestling]] Strong Bad is asked to show some of his "awesome wrestling moves" but instead shows all about his career as a wrestler mostly referring to all the awesome gimmicks he used.
[[Category:Strong Bad Email running gags]]
{{stub}}

Talk:Emails Taken in a Different Direction

2008-01-04T11:13:31Z

Dynamite: /* Rename */

==More than 2 problems?==
There are a couple issues with this article before it is cleaned up. First, the title should be clearer. The idea is fine, but I don't immediately think of "twisting emails" when I am considering the idea of using an email for a tangental idea. Secondly, the page needs to follow standard format:

<nowiki>*Email [[email]] — blah blah blah</nowiki>

Thirdly, examples of where Strong Bad goes off on a tangent should be moved beyond the Tandy 400 era and sectioned appropriately. Finally, some entries need to be cleaned up. For example, [[the bird]] doesn't fit, since "giving somebody the bird" is slang for flipping people off, which is the subject of the email and Strong Bad's response. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

What should we do about emails like [[long pants]] and [[the paper]] where he ''tried'' to twist the email, but the email twisted itself back onto the topic? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

== Removed Facts ==

[[Who Said What Now?|The DeFender1031 says]]: I removed a bunch of facts from this page, here's the removed facts and why:

===i love you===
*In the email [[i love you]], Strong Bad mentions nothing about anything in the email besides his/her name.
There wasn't anything more to the email except "i love you" and he replies that the feeling isn't mutual before going off on the majority of the email (as the name is longer than the email itself). {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===credit card===
*In the email [[credit card]], he receives an email from John and some people trying to steal Strong Bad's credit card number, he shifts the email to be about "[[Homestar]]" and uses his credit card information to buy things on "the_coolest_things_ever.com"
How is this twisting? He's responding to the email by using it to his advantage. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===i she be===
*In [[i she be]], Strong Bad is sent a phony email saying a girl was named great looking girl. After he plays along with it, he yells at her saying he gets a lot of emails like that and from "ladies with proper grammar" but then feels sorry for her. Thinking that he shouldn't let the email go to waste, he sends it to "[[The Cheat]]", later they text each other on an I.M.
What part of this is twisting? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===trevor the vampire===
*In the email [[trevor the vampire]], since Trevor doesn't finish the sentence, Strong Bad tries to make an email in his honor, thinking that "they" got him.
How is he supposed to respond to a half-finished email? Trevor didn't even say anything for Strong Bad to twist! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, he DID address for him to do something other than memorializing the email, the vampire thing had nothing to do with the email itself.

===studying===
*Email [[studying]] — he "advises" Roy to stop studying and spend time with his girlfriend. He later tries to steal his girlfriend, but he says that doesn't know her name or where she lives.
Again, not twisting anything. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===stand-up===
*In [[stand-up]], Joe p. wants him to do stand-up comedy. He repeatedly states "no", trying to avoid telling about an embarrassing thing that had happened to him before. "[[Strong Sad]]" comes in shortly after to show a tape of [[Lil' Strong Bad]] doing stand-up, somehow ending up in his [[pants]] falling for no real reason.
This is a [[blatant lie]], not a twisting of an email. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I think it sort of qualifies as both.

===CGNU===
*In the email [[CGNU]], Strong Bad, instead of telling how to graduate at [[CGNU]], he ends up making an advertisement for it. Also revealing that CGNU is not a real college an applying for it is just to make fun of you.
He is asked how someone can graduate from CGNU and he responds with an ad about getting your degree from CGNU, makes sense to me... (the disclaimer at the end is a throwaway one-liner, and could also be construed as a "you can't" response to the email. either way, it's not a twist.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===flag day===
*In [[flag day]] Strong Bad goes immediately from introducing the flag to singing the [[Strong Badia]] song.
He shows everybody the flag, what more do you want? Is it not proper to sing one's national anthem as you raise the flag? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===property of ones===
*In the email [[property of ones]], he responds to his email with 2 sentences before trailing off to his [[bogus mathematical theorem]]
He responds. Then goes into his bogus theorum. Not twisting, elaborating. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
The ORIGINAL description addressed that he sometimes trails away from the email, confuses facts, AND "twists" the email.

===little questions===
*In [[little questions]] Strong Bad gets an email from a Swedish person, misspelling things and making grammatical errors throughout. Strong Bad responds in what he knows of how the Swedish talk, instead of answering without leaving a big question on what just happened.
He responds to gibberish with gibberish, as best he can. What's the problem here? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===marzipan===
*In [[marzipan]] Strong Bad goes from Emily's question about how nobody ever sees him with any girls. She mentions that [[the only girl]] she's ever seen even near him is [[Marzipan]]. Strong Bad then starts ranting that [[Marzipan]] can't keep her "hands" offa me (although this is entirely untrue).
Again, a [[blatant lie]], not a twist.
There are instances where an email can have more than one running gag in it, so don't shoot down every instance like that.

===In addition===
There are a few that I left in that aren't blatantly going against the subject of the email, but still don't answer it entirely, which raises the question, what is the scope of this page? Is it about instances like [[big white face]] and [[homsar]] where the intent is clearly one thing but he does the complete opposite, or should it include instances like [[retirement]] and [[rough copy]], where strong bad sort of does what's asked but not really, or goes off on some unrelated tangent without first answering the email? (ones where he does first answer it definitely don't count, and i removed a bunch of those above.) The ones that are still there that I am referring to in particular are:
*[[some kinda robot]]
*[[retirement]]
*[[strong badathlon]]
Thoughts? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, it could be those that aren't blantantly going against the email, but still don't answer it completely, about instances like [[big white face]] and [[homsar]], '''and''' include instances like [[retirement]] and [[rough copy]]. {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 16:40, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:I've been invited to add [[old comics]] and [[no loafing]] to the list here. While I'm at it, Defender, can I ask, what [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Twisting_emails&offset=20071209235020&limit=1&curid=39603&action=history consensus] are you talking about? Barely 2 hours ago you undid my own removal of these from the article, but all of a sudden you've been convinced of a consensus and you've gone ahead with these removals and more? Where was any of it discussed and who participated? I'm just wondering because it's not clear to me what makes action acceptable, since mine was not (to you) but your own (nearly identical one) apparently is. 76.254.87.139 00:32, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::Because i didn't think they belonged there to begin with, but i didn't remove them until i saw consensus. The talk is fragmented all over this page and edit summaries in the history, but after [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Twisting_emails&diff=525716&oldid=525714&rcid=482465 this edit] it seemed to me that there were enough people in favor of the removal and none against. I AGREED with you from the start, i just wanted to wait for more consensus to be sure. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Anyway, you're right, a username is a good idear. Tenderly, I remain... [[User:Cableman Jorge|Cableman Jorge]] 00:46, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

===Emails from the Intro===
I hope 3 days afterwards isn't too late for me to bring up this thing from the intro I shortened:
*Unusually, some of the mixed up emails actually create major parts of the [[Homestar Runner universe]]; [[Dangeresque]], several [[running gags]], [[Homsar]], [[Limozeen]], [[kicking The Cheat]], etc.
If I remember these emails correctly, he didn't even ''try'' to twist them. He created Dangeresque as proof he didn't need a [[stunt double]], he brought up Limozeen because some kid asked him to help come up with [[band names]], and he kicked The Cheat to show what he would do if a [[little animal]] came up to him. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Never did it mention he TRIED to, but it DID say that they WERE created whether or not it was intentional

===monster truck===
*Email [[monster truck]]— Stan and Loretta ask Strong Bad if he has ever done advertising for monster truck shows. He then twists it into him doing voice overs for [[Strong Badia]] events.
What is twisted about answering "do you do monster truck commercials" by making fun of a monster truck commercial????? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 19:18, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== Email tags? ==

Since this page can only have appearances in emails, is it necessary to write "Email" at the beginning of each line? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:19, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

== Rename ==

I think it needs a new name. No ideas though. Anyone else got any? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:20, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:How 'bout '''Ignored''' emails. {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 16:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::Nah, that sounds like it's just talking about the [[unused emails]]. He's not ignoring them, he's doing the opposite. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:37, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Oppisite? {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 16:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, thanks DeFender for taking care of three of the four issues I identified and it looks like there are still plenty of content there. How about "Tangental responses"? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:27, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, i think that [[#In addition|the scope of the page]] needs to be clearly defined before we can come up with a name. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:30, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::If anything, I thing "emails" in the title needs to be capitalized. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 23:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::But of course. We're still left without an actual name... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:19, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::How 'bout "Strong Bad forgetting the task in an email"? {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}
::::::::Too long, Clanky! TOO LONG! {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:"Derailed Emails", "Hijacked Emails", or "Diverted Emails" :) '''→''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 05:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::We should definitely change it. I like "Hijacked Emails" best so far, but I don't think it's a very good title.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:01, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
How about "Off-topic sbemail (responses)"
I created the article, and when I did, I too was puzzled with a title name, but I thought it could be discussed. So, as the creator, I agree with Off-topic Sbemails

== Unanswered? ==
Let's not allow this to go un-answered, then: Under what scope do belong emails in which the question in fact was answered, at least to the best of SB's ability? I'm talking specifically about [[no loafing]] and [[old comics]] which didn't before seem to fit in any proposed or imagined scope, but I was instructed to hold my horses and not delete those until a re-name was decided upon. For reference's sake, the history including justifying comments is here: http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Twisting_emails&dir=prev&offset=20071209223947&limit=3&action=history As you can see, I've stated why the emails were in fact '''not un-answered'''.[[User:76.247.46.146|76.247.46.146]] 23:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:You can also see that neither of these emails are among the examples where Defender is calling attention to, and attempting a discussion of, [[#In addition|the scope of the page]]. Why not? Is it because an answer, or at least a genuine attempt at an answer, is present in each of those emails? [[User:76.247.46.146|76.247.46.146]] 23:16, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::No, it's because i didn't notice those, you're welcome to add them to that list. Personally, i think that the scope of this page should be only the times where strong bad '''specifically''' does the opposite of what the sender is asking, like [[big white face]] or [[12:00]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:21, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::The Chort believes old comics is [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Derailed_Emails&diff=527541&oldid=526565 "the perfect example of a derailed email"]. I've grown neutral to its inclusion because it's too hard for me to figure out if "the KOT's always had a poopsmith" truly means "I don't know". [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:23, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::::I'd say it's as about as derailed as [[what I want]], which is still on the page. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:15, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Should I go put it back? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:29, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

== What links here ==

Right now, Defender's userpage is the only What Links Here. Was that true earlier? Were links to this page removed? Is this ultimately intended to be a Category or anything like that? It's funny, none of the early contributors appear to have made any links to this page. But as long as we're discussing [[#In addition|the scope of the page]], let's look forward to what the endgame will be once the page is actually in shape. Tenderly, I remain, [[User:Cableman Jorge|Cableman Jorge]] 01:09, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:Lol, did not realize that. MEh, once we're done, we'll add links to the various pages involved {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::If derailed emails don't count as inside references, where ''should'' we put the links? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:57, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

== Introduction ==

It needs some rewording. Strong Bad does not completely ignore the email. Each time it is somewhat, though not exactly, related to the email sent to him. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:51, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:I put "Disregards" as opposed to "Ignores". It makes all the difference to me, but if it seems wrong to anyone... :B '''→''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 18:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Picture ==
[[Image:Choose Your Own Strong Bad Email Adventure.PNG|thumb]]
Would you like to see the book from [[1 step ahead]] used as a picture? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:I don't see an image there now, so I see no drawback to you putting in this image. '''Be bold''', you know? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Badathlon ==

I still think it counts. He does not do the stuff they requested. If I summarize it like this, the randomness is even more evident: "Throw The Cheat or beat up Homestar! No! We're going to make fun of the olympics tonight!" (I've just been bothered with the email's randomness for months now) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:20, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:Makes sense to me. I added it. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 12:49, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

== New Commando Name - DONE! ==

It's been re-named, so, I'll do away with the <nowiki>{{rename}}</nowiki> template. Tenderly, I remain, [[User:Cableman Jorge|Cableman Jorge]] 04:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, the page was moved prematurely to "Derailed" before there was any real concensus. The rename discussion is still ongoing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:42, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

== [[Sick Day]]? ==

Should [[Sick Day]] be included here, even if it's a Short Toon and not technically a sbemail? Strong Bad does receive an email and it does get derailed, however. Thoughts? [[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 11:22, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Emails Taken in a Different Direction

2008-01-04T11:09:53Z

Dynamite: /* Emails from the Intro */

==More than 2 problems?==
There are a couple issues with this article before it is cleaned up. First, the title should be clearer. The idea is fine, but I don't immediately think of "twisting emails" when I am considering the idea of using an email for a tangental idea. Secondly, the page needs to follow standard format:

<nowiki>*Email [[email]] — blah blah blah</nowiki>

Thirdly, examples of where Strong Bad goes off on a tangent should be moved beyond the Tandy 400 era and sectioned appropriately. Finally, some entries need to be cleaned up. For example, [[the bird]] doesn't fit, since "giving somebody the bird" is slang for flipping people off, which is the subject of the email and Strong Bad's response. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

What should we do about emails like [[long pants]] and [[the paper]] where he ''tried'' to twist the email, but the email twisted itself back onto the topic? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

== Removed Facts ==

[[Who Said What Now?|The DeFender1031 says]]: I removed a bunch of facts from this page, here's the removed facts and why:

===i love you===
*In the email [[i love you]], Strong Bad mentions nothing about anything in the email besides his/her name.
There wasn't anything more to the email except "i love you" and he replies that the feeling isn't mutual before going off on the majority of the email (as the name is longer than the email itself). {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===credit card===
*In the email [[credit card]], he receives an email from John and some people trying to steal Strong Bad's credit card number, he shifts the email to be about "[[Homestar]]" and uses his credit card information to buy things on "the_coolest_things_ever.com"
How is this twisting? He's responding to the email by using it to his advantage. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===i she be===
*In [[i she be]], Strong Bad is sent a phony email saying a girl was named great looking girl. After he plays along with it, he yells at her saying he gets a lot of emails like that and from "ladies with proper grammar" but then feels sorry for her. Thinking that he shouldn't let the email go to waste, he sends it to "[[The Cheat]]", later they text each other on an I.M.
What part of this is twisting? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===trevor the vampire===
*In the email [[trevor the vampire]], since Trevor doesn't finish the sentence, Strong Bad tries to make an email in his honor, thinking that "they" got him.
How is he supposed to respond to a half-finished email? Trevor didn't even say anything for Strong Bad to twist! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, he DID address for him to do something other than memorializing the email, the vampire thing had nothing to do with the email itself.

===studying===
*Email [[studying]] — he "advises" Roy to stop studying and spend time with his girlfriend. He later tries to steal his girlfriend, but he says that doesn't know her name or where she lives.
Again, not twisting anything. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===stand-up===
*In [[stand-up]], Joe p. wants him to do stand-up comedy. He repeatedly states "no", trying to avoid telling about an embarrassing thing that had happened to him before. "[[Strong Sad]]" comes in shortly after to show a tape of [[Lil' Strong Bad]] doing stand-up, somehow ending up in his [[pants]] falling for no real reason.
This is a [[blatant lie]], not a twisting of an email. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I think it sort of qualifies as both.

===CGNU===
*In the email [[CGNU]], Strong Bad, instead of telling how to graduate at [[CGNU]], he ends up making an advertisement for it. Also revealing that CGNU is not a real college an applying for it is just to make fun of you.
He is asked how someone can graduate from CGNU and he responds with an ad about getting your degree from CGNU, makes sense to me... (the disclaimer at the end is a throwaway one-liner, and could also be construed as a "you can't" response to the email. either way, it's not a twist.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===flag day===
*In [[flag day]] Strong Bad goes immediately from introducing the flag to singing the [[Strong Badia]] song.
He shows everybody the flag, what more do you want? Is it not proper to sing one's national anthem as you raise the flag? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===property of ones===
*In the email [[property of ones]], he responds to his email with 2 sentences before trailing off to his [[bogus mathematical theorem]]
He responds. Then goes into his bogus theorum. Not twisting, elaborating. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
The ORIGINAL description addressed that he sometimes trails away from the email, confuses facts, AND "twists" the email.

===little questions===
*In [[little questions]] Strong Bad gets an email from a Swedish person, misspelling things and making grammatical errors throughout. Strong Bad responds in what he knows of how the Swedish talk, instead of answering without leaving a big question on what just happened.
He responds to gibberish with gibberish, as best he can. What's the problem here? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===marzipan===
*In [[marzipan]] Strong Bad goes from Emily's question about how nobody ever sees him with any girls. She mentions that [[the only girl]] she's ever seen even near him is [[Marzipan]]. Strong Bad then starts ranting that [[Marzipan]] can't keep her "hands" offa me (although this is entirely untrue).
Again, a [[blatant lie]], not a twist.
There are instances where an email can have more than one running gag in it, so don't shoot down every instance like that.

===In addition===
There are a few that I left in that aren't blatantly going against the subject of the email, but still don't answer it entirely, which raises the question, what is the scope of this page? Is it about instances like [[big white face]] and [[homsar]] where the intent is clearly one thing but he does the complete opposite, or should it include instances like [[retirement]] and [[rough copy]], where strong bad sort of does what's asked but not really, or goes off on some unrelated tangent without first answering the email? (ones where he does first answer it definitely don't count, and i removed a bunch of those above.) The ones that are still there that I am referring to in particular are:
*[[some kinda robot]]
*[[retirement]]
*[[strong badathlon]]
Thoughts? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, it could be those that aren't blantantly going against the email, but still don't answer it completely, about instances like [[big white face]] and [[homsar]], '''and''' include instances like [[retirement]] and [[rough copy]]. {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 16:40, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:I've been invited to add [[old comics]] and [[no loafing]] to the list here. While I'm at it, Defender, can I ask, what [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Twisting_emails&offset=20071209235020&limit=1&curid=39603&action=history consensus] are you talking about? Barely 2 hours ago you undid my own removal of these from the article, but all of a sudden you've been convinced of a consensus and you've gone ahead with these removals and more? Where was any of it discussed and who participated? I'm just wondering because it's not clear to me what makes action acceptable, since mine was not (to you) but your own (nearly identical one) apparently is. 76.254.87.139 00:32, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::Because i didn't think they belonged there to begin with, but i didn't remove them until i saw consensus. The talk is fragmented all over this page and edit summaries in the history, but after [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Twisting_emails&diff=525716&oldid=525714&rcid=482465 this edit] it seemed to me that there were enough people in favor of the removal and none against. I AGREED with you from the start, i just wanted to wait for more consensus to be sure. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Anyway, you're right, a username is a good idear. Tenderly, I remain... [[User:Cableman Jorge|Cableman Jorge]] 00:46, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

===Emails from the Intro===
I hope 3 days afterwards isn't too late for me to bring up this thing from the intro I shortened:
*Unusually, some of the mixed up emails actually create major parts of the [[Homestar Runner universe]]; [[Dangeresque]], several [[running gags]], [[Homsar]], [[Limozeen]], [[kicking The Cheat]], etc.
If I remember these emails correctly, he didn't even ''try'' to twist them. He created Dangeresque as proof he didn't need a [[stunt double]], he brought up Limozeen because some kid asked him to help come up with [[band names]], and he kicked The Cheat to show what he would do if a [[little animal]] came up to him. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Never did it mention he TRIED to, but it DID say that they WERE created whether or not it was intentional

===monster truck===
*Email [[monster truck]]— Stan and Loretta ask Strong Bad if he has ever done advertising for monster truck shows. He then twists it into him doing voice overs for [[Strong Badia]] events.
What is twisted about answering "do you do monster truck commercials" by making fun of a monster truck commercial????? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 19:18, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== Email tags? ==

Since this page can only have appearances in emails, is it necessary to write "Email" at the beginning of each line? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:19, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

== Rename ==

I think it needs a new name. No ideas though. Anyone else got any? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:20, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:How 'bout '''Ignored''' emails. {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 16:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::Nah, that sounds like it's just talking about the [[unused emails]]. He's not ignoring them, he's doing the opposite. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:37, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Oppisite? {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 16:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, thanks DeFender for taking care of three of the four issues I identified and it looks like there are still plenty of content there. How about "Tangental responses"? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:27, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, i think that [[#In addition|the scope of the page]] needs to be clearly defined before we can come up with a name. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:30, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::If anything, I thing "emails" in the title needs to be capitalized. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 23:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::But of course. We're still left without an actual name... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:19, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::How 'bout "Strong Bad forgetting the task in an email"? {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}
::::::::Too long, Clanky! TOO LONG! {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:"Derailed Emails", "Hijacked Emails", or "Diverted Emails" :) '''→''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 05:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::We should definitely change it. I like "Hijacked Emails" best so far, but I don't think it's a very good title.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:01, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
How about "Off-topic sbmail (responses)"

== Unanswered? ==
Let's not allow this to go un-answered, then: Under what scope do belong emails in which the question in fact was answered, at least to the best of SB's ability? I'm talking specifically about [[no loafing]] and [[old comics]] which didn't before seem to fit in any proposed or imagined scope, but I was instructed to hold my horses and not delete those until a re-name was decided upon. For reference's sake, the history including justifying comments is here: http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Twisting_emails&dir=prev&offset=20071209223947&limit=3&action=history As you can see, I've stated why the emails were in fact '''not un-answered'''.[[User:76.247.46.146|76.247.46.146]] 23:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:You can also see that neither of these emails are among the examples where Defender is calling attention to, and attempting a discussion of, [[#In addition|the scope of the page]]. Why not? Is it because an answer, or at least a genuine attempt at an answer, is present in each of those emails? [[User:76.247.46.146|76.247.46.146]] 23:16, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::No, it's because i didn't notice those, you're welcome to add them to that list. Personally, i think that the scope of this page should be only the times where strong bad '''specifically''' does the opposite of what the sender is asking, like [[big white face]] or [[12:00]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:21, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::The Chort believes old comics is [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Derailed_Emails&diff=527541&oldid=526565 "the perfect example of a derailed email"]. I've grown neutral to its inclusion because it's too hard for me to figure out if "the KOT's always had a poopsmith" truly means "I don't know". [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:23, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::::I'd say it's as about as derailed as [[what I want]], which is still on the page. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:15, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Should I go put it back? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:29, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

== What links here ==

Right now, Defender's userpage is the only What Links Here. Was that true earlier? Were links to this page removed? Is this ultimately intended to be a Category or anything like that? It's funny, none of the early contributors appear to have made any links to this page. But as long as we're discussing [[#In addition|the scope of the page]], let's look forward to what the endgame will be once the page is actually in shape. Tenderly, I remain, [[User:Cableman Jorge|Cableman Jorge]] 01:09, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:Lol, did not realize that. MEh, once we're done, we'll add links to the various pages involved {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::If derailed emails don't count as inside references, where ''should'' we put the links? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:57, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

== Introduction ==

It needs some rewording. Strong Bad does not completely ignore the email. Each time it is somewhat, though not exactly, related to the email sent to him. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:51, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:I put "Disregards" as opposed to "Ignores". It makes all the difference to me, but if it seems wrong to anyone... :B '''→''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 18:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Picture ==
[[Image:Choose Your Own Strong Bad Email Adventure.PNG|thumb]]
Would you like to see the book from [[1 step ahead]] used as a picture? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:I don't see an image there now, so I see no drawback to you putting in this image. '''Be bold''', you know? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Badathlon ==

I still think it counts. He does not do the stuff they requested. If I summarize it like this, the randomness is even more evident: "Throw The Cheat or beat up Homestar! No! We're going to make fun of the olympics tonight!" (I've just been bothered with the email's randomness for months now) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:20, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:Makes sense to me. I added it. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 12:49, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

== New Commando Name - DONE! ==

It's been re-named, so, I'll do away with the <nowiki>{{rename}}</nowiki> template. Tenderly, I remain, [[User:Cableman Jorge|Cableman Jorge]] 04:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, the page was moved prematurely to "Derailed" before there was any real concensus. The rename discussion is still ongoing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:42, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

== [[Sick Day]]? ==

Should [[Sick Day]] be included here, even if it's a Short Toon and not technically a sbemail? Strong Bad does receive an email and it does get derailed, however. Thoughts? [[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 11:22, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Emails Taken in a Different Direction

2008-01-04T11:05:41Z

Dynamite: /* marzipan */

==More than 2 problems?==
There are a couple issues with this article before it is cleaned up. First, the title should be clearer. The idea is fine, but I don't immediately think of "twisting emails" when I am considering the idea of using an email for a tangental idea. Secondly, the page needs to follow standard format:

<nowiki>*Email [[email]] — blah blah blah</nowiki>

Thirdly, examples of where Strong Bad goes off on a tangent should be moved beyond the Tandy 400 era and sectioned appropriately. Finally, some entries need to be cleaned up. For example, [[the bird]] doesn't fit, since "giving somebody the bird" is slang for flipping people off, which is the subject of the email and Strong Bad's response. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

What should we do about emails like [[long pants]] and [[the paper]] where he ''tried'' to twist the email, but the email twisted itself back onto the topic? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

== Removed Facts ==

[[Who Said What Now?|The DeFender1031 says]]: I removed a bunch of facts from this page, here's the removed facts and why:

===i love you===
*In the email [[i love you]], Strong Bad mentions nothing about anything in the email besides his/her name.
There wasn't anything more to the email except "i love you" and he replies that the feeling isn't mutual before going off on the majority of the email (as the name is longer than the email itself). {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===credit card===
*In the email [[credit card]], he receives an email from John and some people trying to steal Strong Bad's credit card number, he shifts the email to be about "[[Homestar]]" and uses his credit card information to buy things on "the_coolest_things_ever.com"
How is this twisting? He's responding to the email by using it to his advantage. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===i she be===
*In [[i she be]], Strong Bad is sent a phony email saying a girl was named great looking girl. After he plays along with it, he yells at her saying he gets a lot of emails like that and from "ladies with proper grammar" but then feels sorry for her. Thinking that he shouldn't let the email go to waste, he sends it to "[[The Cheat]]", later they text each other on an I.M.
What part of this is twisting? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===trevor the vampire===
*In the email [[trevor the vampire]], since Trevor doesn't finish the sentence, Strong Bad tries to make an email in his honor, thinking that "they" got him.
How is he supposed to respond to a half-finished email? Trevor didn't even say anything for Strong Bad to twist! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, he DID address for him to do something other than memorializing the email, the vampire thing had nothing to do with the email itself.

===studying===
*Email [[studying]] — he "advises" Roy to stop studying and spend time with his girlfriend. He later tries to steal his girlfriend, but he says that doesn't know her name or where she lives.
Again, not twisting anything. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===stand-up===
*In [[stand-up]], Joe p. wants him to do stand-up comedy. He repeatedly states "no", trying to avoid telling about an embarrassing thing that had happened to him before. "[[Strong Sad]]" comes in shortly after to show a tape of [[Lil' Strong Bad]] doing stand-up, somehow ending up in his [[pants]] falling for no real reason.
This is a [[blatant lie]], not a twisting of an email. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I think it sort of qualifies as both.

===CGNU===
*In the email [[CGNU]], Strong Bad, instead of telling how to graduate at [[CGNU]], he ends up making an advertisement for it. Also revealing that CGNU is not a real college an applying for it is just to make fun of you.
He is asked how someone can graduate from CGNU and he responds with an ad about getting your degree from CGNU, makes sense to me... (the disclaimer at the end is a throwaway one-liner, and could also be construed as a "you can't" response to the email. either way, it's not a twist.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===flag day===
*In [[flag day]] Strong Bad goes immediately from introducing the flag to singing the [[Strong Badia]] song.
He shows everybody the flag, what more do you want? Is it not proper to sing one's national anthem as you raise the flag? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===property of ones===
*In the email [[property of ones]], he responds to his email with 2 sentences before trailing off to his [[bogus mathematical theorem]]
He responds. Then goes into his bogus theorum. Not twisting, elaborating. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
The ORIGINAL description addressed that he sometimes trails away from the email, confuses facts, AND "twists" the email.

===little questions===
*In [[little questions]] Strong Bad gets an email from a Swedish person, misspelling things and making grammatical errors throughout. Strong Bad responds in what he knows of how the Swedish talk, instead of answering without leaving a big question on what just happened.
He responds to gibberish with gibberish, as best he can. What's the problem here? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===marzipan===
*In [[marzipan]] Strong Bad goes from Emily's question about how nobody ever sees him with any girls. She mentions that [[the only girl]] she's ever seen even near him is [[Marzipan]]. Strong Bad then starts ranting that [[Marzipan]] can't keep her "hands" offa me (although this is entirely untrue).
Again, a [[blatant lie]], not a twist.
There are instances where an email can have more than one running gag in it, so don't shoot down every instance like that.

===In addition===
There are a few that I left in that aren't blatantly going against the subject of the email, but still don't answer it entirely, which raises the question, what is the scope of this page? Is it about instances like [[big white face]] and [[homsar]] where the intent is clearly one thing but he does the complete opposite, or should it include instances like [[retirement]] and [[rough copy]], where strong bad sort of does what's asked but not really, or goes off on some unrelated tangent without first answering the email? (ones where he does first answer it definitely don't count, and i removed a bunch of those above.) The ones that are still there that I am referring to in particular are:
*[[some kinda robot]]
*[[retirement]]
*[[strong badathlon]]
Thoughts? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, it could be those that aren't blantantly going against the email, but still don't answer it completely, about instances like [[big white face]] and [[homsar]], '''and''' include instances like [[retirement]] and [[rough copy]]. {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 16:40, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:I've been invited to add [[old comics]] and [[no loafing]] to the list here. While I'm at it, Defender, can I ask, what [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Twisting_emails&offset=20071209235020&limit=1&curid=39603&action=history consensus] are you talking about? Barely 2 hours ago you undid my own removal of these from the article, but all of a sudden you've been convinced of a consensus and you've gone ahead with these removals and more? Where was any of it discussed and who participated? I'm just wondering because it's not clear to me what makes action acceptable, since mine was not (to you) but your own (nearly identical one) apparently is. 76.254.87.139 00:32, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::Because i didn't think they belonged there to begin with, but i didn't remove them until i saw consensus. The talk is fragmented all over this page and edit summaries in the history, but after [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Twisting_emails&diff=525716&oldid=525714&rcid=482465 this edit] it seemed to me that there were enough people in favor of the removal and none against. I AGREED with you from the start, i just wanted to wait for more consensus to be sure. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Anyway, you're right, a username is a good idear. Tenderly, I remain... [[User:Cableman Jorge|Cableman Jorge]] 00:46, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

===Emails from the Intro===
I hope 3 days afterwards isn't too late for me to bring up this thing from the intro I shortened:
*Unusually, some of the mixed up emails actually create major parts of the [[Homestar Runner universe]]; [[Dangeresque]], several [[running gags]], [[Homsar]], [[Limozeen]], [[kicking The Cheat]], etc.
If I remember these emails correctly, he didn't even ''try'' to twist them. He created Dangeresque as proof he didn't need a [[stunt double]], he brought up Limozeen because some kid asked him to help come up with [[band names]], and he kicked The Cheat to show what he would do if a [[little animal]] came up to him. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

===monster truck===
*Email [[monster truck]]— Stan and Loretta ask Strong Bad if he has ever done advertising for monster truck shows. He then twists it into him doing voice overs for [[Strong Badia]] events.
What is twisted about answering "do you do monster truck commercials" by making fun of a monster truck commercial????? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 19:18, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== Email tags? ==

Since this page can only have appearances in emails, is it necessary to write "Email" at the beginning of each line? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:19, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

== Rename ==

I think it needs a new name. No ideas though. Anyone else got any? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:20, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:How 'bout '''Ignored''' emails. {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 16:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::Nah, that sounds like it's just talking about the [[unused emails]]. He's not ignoring them, he's doing the opposite. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:37, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Oppisite? {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 16:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, thanks DeFender for taking care of three of the four issues I identified and it looks like there are still plenty of content there. How about "Tangental responses"? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:27, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, i think that [[#In addition|the scope of the page]] needs to be clearly defined before we can come up with a name. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:30, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::If anything, I thing "emails" in the title needs to be capitalized. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 23:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::But of course. We're still left without an actual name... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:19, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::How 'bout "Strong Bad forgetting the task in an email"? {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}
::::::::Too long, Clanky! TOO LONG! {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:"Derailed Emails", "Hijacked Emails", or "Diverted Emails" :) '''→''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 05:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::We should definitely change it. I like "Hijacked Emails" best so far, but I don't think it's a very good title.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:01, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
How about "Off-topic sbmail (responses)"

== Unanswered? ==
Let's not allow this to go un-answered, then: Under what scope do belong emails in which the question in fact was answered, at least to the best of SB's ability? I'm talking specifically about [[no loafing]] and [[old comics]] which didn't before seem to fit in any proposed or imagined scope, but I was instructed to hold my horses and not delete those until a re-name was decided upon. For reference's sake, the history including justifying comments is here: http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Twisting_emails&dir=prev&offset=20071209223947&limit=3&action=history As you can see, I've stated why the emails were in fact '''not un-answered'''.[[User:76.247.46.146|76.247.46.146]] 23:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:You can also see that neither of these emails are among the examples where Defender is calling attention to, and attempting a discussion of, [[#In addition|the scope of the page]]. Why not? Is it because an answer, or at least a genuine attempt at an answer, is present in each of those emails? [[User:76.247.46.146|76.247.46.146]] 23:16, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::No, it's because i didn't notice those, you're welcome to add them to that list. Personally, i think that the scope of this page should be only the times where strong bad '''specifically''' does the opposite of what the sender is asking, like [[big white face]] or [[12:00]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:21, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::The Chort believes old comics is [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Derailed_Emails&diff=527541&oldid=526565 "the perfect example of a derailed email"]. I've grown neutral to its inclusion because it's too hard for me to figure out if "the KOT's always had a poopsmith" truly means "I don't know". [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:23, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::::I'd say it's as about as derailed as [[what I want]], which is still on the page. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:15, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Should I go put it back? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:29, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

== What links here ==

Right now, Defender's userpage is the only What Links Here. Was that true earlier? Were links to this page removed? Is this ultimately intended to be a Category or anything like that? It's funny, none of the early contributors appear to have made any links to this page. But as long as we're discussing [[#In addition|the scope of the page]], let's look forward to what the endgame will be once the page is actually in shape. Tenderly, I remain, [[User:Cableman Jorge|Cableman Jorge]] 01:09, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:Lol, did not realize that. MEh, once we're done, we'll add links to the various pages involved {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::If derailed emails don't count as inside references, where ''should'' we put the links? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:57, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

== Introduction ==

It needs some rewording. Strong Bad does not completely ignore the email. Each time it is somewhat, though not exactly, related to the email sent to him. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:51, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:I put "Disregards" as opposed to "Ignores". It makes all the difference to me, but if it seems wrong to anyone... :B '''→''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 18:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Picture ==
[[Image:Choose Your Own Strong Bad Email Adventure.PNG|thumb]]
Would you like to see the book from [[1 step ahead]] used as a picture? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:I don't see an image there now, so I see no drawback to you putting in this image. '''Be bold''', you know? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Badathlon ==

I still think it counts. He does not do the stuff they requested. If I summarize it like this, the randomness is even more evident: "Throw The Cheat or beat up Homestar! No! We're going to make fun of the olympics tonight!" (I've just been bothered with the email's randomness for months now) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:20, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:Makes sense to me. I added it. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 12:49, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

== New Commando Name - DONE! ==

It's been re-named, so, I'll do away with the <nowiki>{{rename}}</nowiki> template. Tenderly, I remain, [[User:Cableman Jorge|Cableman Jorge]] 04:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, the page was moved prematurely to "Derailed" before there was any real concensus. The rename discussion is still ongoing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:42, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

== [[Sick Day]]? ==

Should [[Sick Day]] be included here, even if it's a Short Toon and not technically a sbemail? Strong Bad does receive an email and it does get derailed, however. Thoughts? [[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 11:22, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Emails Taken in a Different Direction

2008-01-04T11:03:45Z

Dynamite: /* property of ones */

==More than 2 problems?==
There are a couple issues with this article before it is cleaned up. First, the title should be clearer. The idea is fine, but I don't immediately think of "twisting emails" when I am considering the idea of using an email for a tangental idea. Secondly, the page needs to follow standard format:

<nowiki>*Email [[email]] — blah blah blah</nowiki>

Thirdly, examples of where Strong Bad goes off on a tangent should be moved beyond the Tandy 400 era and sectioned appropriately. Finally, some entries need to be cleaned up. For example, [[the bird]] doesn't fit, since "giving somebody the bird" is slang for flipping people off, which is the subject of the email and Strong Bad's response. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

What should we do about emails like [[long pants]] and [[the paper]] where he ''tried'' to twist the email, but the email twisted itself back onto the topic? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

== Removed Facts ==

[[Who Said What Now?|The DeFender1031 says]]: I removed a bunch of facts from this page, here's the removed facts and why:

===i love you===
*In the email [[i love you]], Strong Bad mentions nothing about anything in the email besides his/her name.
There wasn't anything more to the email except "i love you" and he replies that the feeling isn't mutual before going off on the majority of the email (as the name is longer than the email itself). {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===credit card===
*In the email [[credit card]], he receives an email from John and some people trying to steal Strong Bad's credit card number, he shifts the email to be about "[[Homestar]]" and uses his credit card information to buy things on "the_coolest_things_ever.com"
How is this twisting? He's responding to the email by using it to his advantage. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===i she be===
*In [[i she be]], Strong Bad is sent a phony email saying a girl was named great looking girl. After he plays along with it, he yells at her saying he gets a lot of emails like that and from "ladies with proper grammar" but then feels sorry for her. Thinking that he shouldn't let the email go to waste, he sends it to "[[The Cheat]]", later they text each other on an I.M.
What part of this is twisting? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===trevor the vampire===
*In the email [[trevor the vampire]], since Trevor doesn't finish the sentence, Strong Bad tries to make an email in his honor, thinking that "they" got him.
How is he supposed to respond to a half-finished email? Trevor didn't even say anything for Strong Bad to twist! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, he DID address for him to do something other than memorializing the email, the vampire thing had nothing to do with the email itself.

===studying===
*Email [[studying]] — he "advises" Roy to stop studying and spend time with his girlfriend. He later tries to steal his girlfriend, but he says that doesn't know her name or where she lives.
Again, not twisting anything. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===stand-up===
*In [[stand-up]], Joe p. wants him to do stand-up comedy. He repeatedly states "no", trying to avoid telling about an embarrassing thing that had happened to him before. "[[Strong Sad]]" comes in shortly after to show a tape of [[Lil' Strong Bad]] doing stand-up, somehow ending up in his [[pants]] falling for no real reason.
This is a [[blatant lie]], not a twisting of an email. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I think it sort of qualifies as both.

===CGNU===
*In the email [[CGNU]], Strong Bad, instead of telling how to graduate at [[CGNU]], he ends up making an advertisement for it. Also revealing that CGNU is not a real college an applying for it is just to make fun of you.
He is asked how someone can graduate from CGNU and he responds with an ad about getting your degree from CGNU, makes sense to me... (the disclaimer at the end is a throwaway one-liner, and could also be construed as a "you can't" response to the email. either way, it's not a twist.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===flag day===
*In [[flag day]] Strong Bad goes immediately from introducing the flag to singing the [[Strong Badia]] song.
He shows everybody the flag, what more do you want? Is it not proper to sing one's national anthem as you raise the flag? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===property of ones===
*In the email [[property of ones]], he responds to his email with 2 sentences before trailing off to his [[bogus mathematical theorem]]
He responds. Then goes into his bogus theorum. Not twisting, elaborating. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
The ORIGINAL description addressed that he sometimes trails away from the email, confuses facts, AND "twists" the email.

===little questions===
*In [[little questions]] Strong Bad gets an email from a Swedish person, misspelling things and making grammatical errors throughout. Strong Bad responds in what he knows of how the Swedish talk, instead of answering without leaving a big question on what just happened.
He responds to gibberish with gibberish, as best he can. What's the problem here? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===marzipan===
*In [[marzipan]] Strong Bad goes from Emily's question about how nobody ever sees him with any girls. She mentions that [[the only girl]] she's ever seen even near him is [[Marzipan]]. Strong Bad then starts ranting that [[Marzipan]] can't keep her "hands" offa me (although this is entirely untrue).
Again, a [[blatant lie]], not a twist.

===In addition===
There are a few that I left in that aren't blatantly going against the subject of the email, but still don't answer it entirely, which raises the question, what is the scope of this page? Is it about instances like [[big white face]] and [[homsar]] where the intent is clearly one thing but he does the complete opposite, or should it include instances like [[retirement]] and [[rough copy]], where strong bad sort of does what's asked but not really, or goes off on some unrelated tangent without first answering the email? (ones where he does first answer it definitely don't count, and i removed a bunch of those above.) The ones that are still there that I am referring to in particular are:
*[[some kinda robot]]
*[[retirement]]
*[[strong badathlon]]
Thoughts? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, it could be those that aren't blantantly going against the email, but still don't answer it completely, about instances like [[big white face]] and [[homsar]], '''and''' include instances like [[retirement]] and [[rough copy]]. {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 16:40, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:I've been invited to add [[old comics]] and [[no loafing]] to the list here. While I'm at it, Defender, can I ask, what [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Twisting_emails&offset=20071209235020&limit=1&curid=39603&action=history consensus] are you talking about? Barely 2 hours ago you undid my own removal of these from the article, but all of a sudden you've been convinced of a consensus and you've gone ahead with these removals and more? Where was any of it discussed and who participated? I'm just wondering because it's not clear to me what makes action acceptable, since mine was not (to you) but your own (nearly identical one) apparently is. 76.254.87.139 00:32, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::Because i didn't think they belonged there to begin with, but i didn't remove them until i saw consensus. The talk is fragmented all over this page and edit summaries in the history, but after [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Twisting_emails&diff=525716&oldid=525714&rcid=482465 this edit] it seemed to me that there were enough people in favor of the removal and none against. I AGREED with you from the start, i just wanted to wait for more consensus to be sure. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Anyway, you're right, a username is a good idear. Tenderly, I remain... [[User:Cableman Jorge|Cableman Jorge]] 00:46, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

===Emails from the Intro===
I hope 3 days afterwards isn't too late for me to bring up this thing from the intro I shortened:
*Unusually, some of the mixed up emails actually create major parts of the [[Homestar Runner universe]]; [[Dangeresque]], several [[running gags]], [[Homsar]], [[Limozeen]], [[kicking The Cheat]], etc.
If I remember these emails correctly, he didn't even ''try'' to twist them. He created Dangeresque as proof he didn't need a [[stunt double]], he brought up Limozeen because some kid asked him to help come up with [[band names]], and he kicked The Cheat to show what he would do if a [[little animal]] came up to him. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

===monster truck===
*Email [[monster truck]]— Stan and Loretta ask Strong Bad if he has ever done advertising for monster truck shows. He then twists it into him doing voice overs for [[Strong Badia]] events.
What is twisted about answering "do you do monster truck commercials" by making fun of a monster truck commercial????? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 19:18, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== Email tags? ==

Since this page can only have appearances in emails, is it necessary to write "Email" at the beginning of each line? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:19, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

== Rename ==

I think it needs a new name. No ideas though. Anyone else got any? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:20, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:How 'bout '''Ignored''' emails. {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 16:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::Nah, that sounds like it's just talking about the [[unused emails]]. He's not ignoring them, he's doing the opposite. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:37, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Oppisite? {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 16:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, thanks DeFender for taking care of three of the four issues I identified and it looks like there are still plenty of content there. How about "Tangental responses"? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:27, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, i think that [[#In addition|the scope of the page]] needs to be clearly defined before we can come up with a name. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:30, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::If anything, I thing "emails" in the title needs to be capitalized. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 23:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::But of course. We're still left without an actual name... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:19, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::How 'bout "Strong Bad forgetting the task in an email"? {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}
::::::::Too long, Clanky! TOO LONG! {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:"Derailed Emails", "Hijacked Emails", or "Diverted Emails" :) '''→''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 05:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::We should definitely change it. I like "Hijacked Emails" best so far, but I don't think it's a very good title.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:01, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
How about "Off-topic sbmail (responses)"

== Unanswered? ==
Let's not allow this to go un-answered, then: Under what scope do belong emails in which the question in fact was answered, at least to the best of SB's ability? I'm talking specifically about [[no loafing]] and [[old comics]] which didn't before seem to fit in any proposed or imagined scope, but I was instructed to hold my horses and not delete those until a re-name was decided upon. For reference's sake, the history including justifying comments is here: http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Twisting_emails&dir=prev&offset=20071209223947&limit=3&action=history As you can see, I've stated why the emails were in fact '''not un-answered'''.[[User:76.247.46.146|76.247.46.146]] 23:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:You can also see that neither of these emails are among the examples where Defender is calling attention to, and attempting a discussion of, [[#In addition|the scope of the page]]. Why not? Is it because an answer, or at least a genuine attempt at an answer, is present in each of those emails? [[User:76.247.46.146|76.247.46.146]] 23:16, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::No, it's because i didn't notice those, you're welcome to add them to that list. Personally, i think that the scope of this page should be only the times where strong bad '''specifically''' does the opposite of what the sender is asking, like [[big white face]] or [[12:00]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:21, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::The Chort believes old comics is [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Derailed_Emails&diff=527541&oldid=526565 "the perfect example of a derailed email"]. I've grown neutral to its inclusion because it's too hard for me to figure out if "the KOT's always had a poopsmith" truly means "I don't know". [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:23, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::::I'd say it's as about as derailed as [[what I want]], which is still on the page. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:15, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Should I go put it back? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:29, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

== What links here ==

Right now, Defender's userpage is the only What Links Here. Was that true earlier? Were links to this page removed? Is this ultimately intended to be a Category or anything like that? It's funny, none of the early contributors appear to have made any links to this page. But as long as we're discussing [[#In addition|the scope of the page]], let's look forward to what the endgame will be once the page is actually in shape. Tenderly, I remain, [[User:Cableman Jorge|Cableman Jorge]] 01:09, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:Lol, did not realize that. MEh, once we're done, we'll add links to the various pages involved {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::If derailed emails don't count as inside references, where ''should'' we put the links? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:57, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

== Introduction ==

It needs some rewording. Strong Bad does not completely ignore the email. Each time it is somewhat, though not exactly, related to the email sent to him. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:51, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:I put "Disregards" as opposed to "Ignores". It makes all the difference to me, but if it seems wrong to anyone... :B '''→''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 18:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Picture ==
[[Image:Choose Your Own Strong Bad Email Adventure.PNG|thumb]]
Would you like to see the book from [[1 step ahead]] used as a picture? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:I don't see an image there now, so I see no drawback to you putting in this image. '''Be bold''', you know? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Badathlon ==

I still think it counts. He does not do the stuff they requested. If I summarize it like this, the randomness is even more evident: "Throw The Cheat or beat up Homestar! No! We're going to make fun of the olympics tonight!" (I've just been bothered with the email's randomness for months now) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:20, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:Makes sense to me. I added it. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 12:49, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

== New Commando Name - DONE! ==

It's been re-named, so, I'll do away with the <nowiki>{{rename}}</nowiki> template. Tenderly, I remain, [[User:Cableman Jorge|Cableman Jorge]] 04:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, the page was moved prematurely to "Derailed" before there was any real concensus. The rename discussion is still ongoing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:42, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

== [[Sick Day]]? ==

Should [[Sick Day]] be included here, even if it's a Short Toon and not technically a sbemail? Strong Bad does receive an email and it does get derailed, however. Thoughts? [[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 11:22, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Emails Taken in a Different Direction

2008-01-04T11:01:46Z

Dynamite: /* stand-up */

==More than 2 problems?==
There are a couple issues with this article before it is cleaned up. First, the title should be clearer. The idea is fine, but I don't immediately think of "twisting emails" when I am considering the idea of using an email for a tangental idea. Secondly, the page needs to follow standard format:

<nowiki>*Email [[email]] — blah blah blah</nowiki>

Thirdly, examples of where Strong Bad goes off on a tangent should be moved beyond the Tandy 400 era and sectioned appropriately. Finally, some entries need to be cleaned up. For example, [[the bird]] doesn't fit, since "giving somebody the bird" is slang for flipping people off, which is the subject of the email and Strong Bad's response. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

What should we do about emails like [[long pants]] and [[the paper]] where he ''tried'' to twist the email, but the email twisted itself back onto the topic? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

== Removed Facts ==

[[Who Said What Now?|The DeFender1031 says]]: I removed a bunch of facts from this page, here's the removed facts and why:

===i love you===
*In the email [[i love you]], Strong Bad mentions nothing about anything in the email besides his/her name.
There wasn't anything more to the email except "i love you" and he replies that the feeling isn't mutual before going off on the majority of the email (as the name is longer than the email itself). {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===credit card===
*In the email [[credit card]], he receives an email from John and some people trying to steal Strong Bad's credit card number, he shifts the email to be about "[[Homestar]]" and uses his credit card information to buy things on "the_coolest_things_ever.com"
How is this twisting? He's responding to the email by using it to his advantage. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===i she be===
*In [[i she be]], Strong Bad is sent a phony email saying a girl was named great looking girl. After he plays along with it, he yells at her saying he gets a lot of emails like that and from "ladies with proper grammar" but then feels sorry for her. Thinking that he shouldn't let the email go to waste, he sends it to "[[The Cheat]]", later they text each other on an I.M.
What part of this is twisting? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===trevor the vampire===
*In the email [[trevor the vampire]], since Trevor doesn't finish the sentence, Strong Bad tries to make an email in his honor, thinking that "they" got him.
How is he supposed to respond to a half-finished email? Trevor didn't even say anything for Strong Bad to twist! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, he DID address for him to do something other than memorializing the email, the vampire thing had nothing to do with the email itself.

===studying===
*Email [[studying]] — he "advises" Roy to stop studying and spend time with his girlfriend. He later tries to steal his girlfriend, but he says that doesn't know her name or where she lives.
Again, not twisting anything. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===stand-up===
*In [[stand-up]], Joe p. wants him to do stand-up comedy. He repeatedly states "no", trying to avoid telling about an embarrassing thing that had happened to him before. "[[Strong Sad]]" comes in shortly after to show a tape of [[Lil' Strong Bad]] doing stand-up, somehow ending up in his [[pants]] falling for no real reason.
This is a [[blatant lie]], not a twisting of an email. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I think it sort of qualifies as both.

===CGNU===
*In the email [[CGNU]], Strong Bad, instead of telling how to graduate at [[CGNU]], he ends up making an advertisement for it. Also revealing that CGNU is not a real college an applying for it is just to make fun of you.
He is asked how someone can graduate from CGNU and he responds with an ad about getting your degree from CGNU, makes sense to me... (the disclaimer at the end is a throwaway one-liner, and could also be construed as a "you can't" response to the email. either way, it's not a twist.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===flag day===
*In [[flag day]] Strong Bad goes immediately from introducing the flag to singing the [[Strong Badia]] song.
He shows everybody the flag, what more do you want? Is it not proper to sing one's national anthem as you raise the flag? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===property of ones===
*In the email [[property of ones]], he responds to his email with 2 sentences before trailing off to his [[bogus mathematical theorem]]
He responds. Then goes into his bogus theorum. Not twisting, elaborating. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===little questions===
*In [[little questions]] Strong Bad gets an email from a Swedish person, misspelling things and making grammatical errors throughout. Strong Bad responds in what he knows of how the Swedish talk, instead of answering without leaving a big question on what just happened.
He responds to gibberish with gibberish, as best he can. What's the problem here? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===marzipan===
*In [[marzipan]] Strong Bad goes from Emily's question about how nobody ever sees him with any girls. She mentions that [[the only girl]] she's ever seen even near him is [[Marzipan]]. Strong Bad then starts ranting that [[Marzipan]] can't keep her "hands" offa me (although this is entirely untrue).
Again, a [[blatant lie]], not a twist.

===In addition===
There are a few that I left in that aren't blatantly going against the subject of the email, but still don't answer it entirely, which raises the question, what is the scope of this page? Is it about instances like [[big white face]] and [[homsar]] where the intent is clearly one thing but he does the complete opposite, or should it include instances like [[retirement]] and [[rough copy]], where strong bad sort of does what's asked but not really, or goes off on some unrelated tangent without first answering the email? (ones where he does first answer it definitely don't count, and i removed a bunch of those above.) The ones that are still there that I am referring to in particular are:
*[[some kinda robot]]
*[[retirement]]
*[[strong badathlon]]
Thoughts? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, it could be those that aren't blantantly going against the email, but still don't answer it completely, about instances like [[big white face]] and [[homsar]], '''and''' include instances like [[retirement]] and [[rough copy]]. {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 16:40, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:I've been invited to add [[old comics]] and [[no loafing]] to the list here. While I'm at it, Defender, can I ask, what [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Twisting_emails&offset=20071209235020&limit=1&curid=39603&action=history consensus] are you talking about? Barely 2 hours ago you undid my own removal of these from the article, but all of a sudden you've been convinced of a consensus and you've gone ahead with these removals and more? Where was any of it discussed and who participated? I'm just wondering because it's not clear to me what makes action acceptable, since mine was not (to you) but your own (nearly identical one) apparently is. 76.254.87.139 00:32, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::Because i didn't think they belonged there to begin with, but i didn't remove them until i saw consensus. The talk is fragmented all over this page and edit summaries in the history, but after [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Twisting_emails&diff=525716&oldid=525714&rcid=482465 this edit] it seemed to me that there were enough people in favor of the removal and none against. I AGREED with you from the start, i just wanted to wait for more consensus to be sure. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Anyway, you're right, a username is a good idear. Tenderly, I remain... [[User:Cableman Jorge|Cableman Jorge]] 00:46, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

===Emails from the Intro===
I hope 3 days afterwards isn't too late for me to bring up this thing from the intro I shortened:
*Unusually, some of the mixed up emails actually create major parts of the [[Homestar Runner universe]]; [[Dangeresque]], several [[running gags]], [[Homsar]], [[Limozeen]], [[kicking The Cheat]], etc.
If I remember these emails correctly, he didn't even ''try'' to twist them. He created Dangeresque as proof he didn't need a [[stunt double]], he brought up Limozeen because some kid asked him to help come up with [[band names]], and he kicked The Cheat to show what he would do if a [[little animal]] came up to him. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

===monster truck===
*Email [[monster truck]]— Stan and Loretta ask Strong Bad if he has ever done advertising for monster truck shows. He then twists it into him doing voice overs for [[Strong Badia]] events.
What is twisted about answering "do you do monster truck commercials" by making fun of a monster truck commercial????? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 19:18, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== Email tags? ==

Since this page can only have appearances in emails, is it necessary to write "Email" at the beginning of each line? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:19, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

== Rename ==

I think it needs a new name. No ideas though. Anyone else got any? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:20, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:How 'bout '''Ignored''' emails. {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 16:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::Nah, that sounds like it's just talking about the [[unused emails]]. He's not ignoring them, he's doing the opposite. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:37, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Oppisite? {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 16:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, thanks DeFender for taking care of three of the four issues I identified and it looks like there are still plenty of content there. How about "Tangental responses"? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:27, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, i think that [[#In addition|the scope of the page]] needs to be clearly defined before we can come up with a name. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:30, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::If anything, I thing "emails" in the title needs to be capitalized. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 23:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::But of course. We're still left without an actual name... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:19, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::How 'bout "Strong Bad forgetting the task in an email"? {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}
::::::::Too long, Clanky! TOO LONG! {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:"Derailed Emails", "Hijacked Emails", or "Diverted Emails" :) '''→''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 05:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::We should definitely change it. I like "Hijacked Emails" best so far, but I don't think it's a very good title.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:01, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
How about "Off-topic sbmail (responses)"

== Unanswered? ==
Let's not allow this to go un-answered, then: Under what scope do belong emails in which the question in fact was answered, at least to the best of SB's ability? I'm talking specifically about [[no loafing]] and [[old comics]] which didn't before seem to fit in any proposed or imagined scope, but I was instructed to hold my horses and not delete those until a re-name was decided upon. For reference's sake, the history including justifying comments is here: http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Twisting_emails&dir=prev&offset=20071209223947&limit=3&action=history As you can see, I've stated why the emails were in fact '''not un-answered'''.[[User:76.247.46.146|76.247.46.146]] 23:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:You can also see that neither of these emails are among the examples where Defender is calling attention to, and attempting a discussion of, [[#In addition|the scope of the page]]. Why not? Is it because an answer, or at least a genuine attempt at an answer, is present in each of those emails? [[User:76.247.46.146|76.247.46.146]] 23:16, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::No, it's because i didn't notice those, you're welcome to add them to that list. Personally, i think that the scope of this page should be only the times where strong bad '''specifically''' does the opposite of what the sender is asking, like [[big white face]] or [[12:00]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:21, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::The Chort believes old comics is [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Derailed_Emails&diff=527541&oldid=526565 "the perfect example of a derailed email"]. I've grown neutral to its inclusion because it's too hard for me to figure out if "the KOT's always had a poopsmith" truly means "I don't know". [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:23, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::::I'd say it's as about as derailed as [[what I want]], which is still on the page. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:15, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Should I go put it back? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:29, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

== What links here ==

Right now, Defender's userpage is the only What Links Here. Was that true earlier? Were links to this page removed? Is this ultimately intended to be a Category or anything like that? It's funny, none of the early contributors appear to have made any links to this page. But as long as we're discussing [[#In addition|the scope of the page]], let's look forward to what the endgame will be once the page is actually in shape. Tenderly, I remain, [[User:Cableman Jorge|Cableman Jorge]] 01:09, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:Lol, did not realize that. MEh, once we're done, we'll add links to the various pages involved {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::If derailed emails don't count as inside references, where ''should'' we put the links? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:57, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

== Introduction ==

It needs some rewording. Strong Bad does not completely ignore the email. Each time it is somewhat, though not exactly, related to the email sent to him. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:51, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:I put "Disregards" as opposed to "Ignores". It makes all the difference to me, but if it seems wrong to anyone... :B '''→''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 18:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Picture ==
[[Image:Choose Your Own Strong Bad Email Adventure.PNG|thumb]]
Would you like to see the book from [[1 step ahead]] used as a picture? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:I don't see an image there now, so I see no drawback to you putting in this image. '''Be bold''', you know? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Badathlon ==

I still think it counts. He does not do the stuff they requested. If I summarize it like this, the randomness is even more evident: "Throw The Cheat or beat up Homestar! No! We're going to make fun of the olympics tonight!" (I've just been bothered with the email's randomness for months now) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:20, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:Makes sense to me. I added it. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 12:49, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

== New Commando Name - DONE! ==

It's been re-named, so, I'll do away with the <nowiki>{{rename}}</nowiki> template. Tenderly, I remain, [[User:Cableman Jorge|Cableman Jorge]] 04:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, the page was moved prematurely to "Derailed" before there was any real concensus. The rename discussion is still ongoing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:42, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

== [[Sick Day]]? ==

Should [[Sick Day]] be included here, even if it's a Short Toon and not technically a sbemail? Strong Bad does receive an email and it does get derailed, however. Thoughts? [[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 11:22, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Emails Taken in a Different Direction

2008-01-04T11:00:08Z

Dynamite: /* trevor the vampire */

==More than 2 problems?==
There are a couple issues with this article before it is cleaned up. First, the title should be clearer. The idea is fine, but I don't immediately think of "twisting emails" when I am considering the idea of using an email for a tangental idea. Secondly, the page needs to follow standard format:

<nowiki>*Email [[email]] — blah blah blah</nowiki>

Thirdly, examples of where Strong Bad goes off on a tangent should be moved beyond the Tandy 400 era and sectioned appropriately. Finally, some entries need to be cleaned up. For example, [[the bird]] doesn't fit, since "giving somebody the bird" is slang for flipping people off, which is the subject of the email and Strong Bad's response. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

What should we do about emails like [[long pants]] and [[the paper]] where he ''tried'' to twist the email, but the email twisted itself back onto the topic? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

== Removed Facts ==

[[Who Said What Now?|The DeFender1031 says]]: I removed a bunch of facts from this page, here's the removed facts and why:

===i love you===
*In the email [[i love you]], Strong Bad mentions nothing about anything in the email besides his/her name.
There wasn't anything more to the email except "i love you" and he replies that the feeling isn't mutual before going off on the majority of the email (as the name is longer than the email itself). {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===credit card===
*In the email [[credit card]], he receives an email from John and some people trying to steal Strong Bad's credit card number, he shifts the email to be about "[[Homestar]]" and uses his credit card information to buy things on "the_coolest_things_ever.com"
How is this twisting? He's responding to the email by using it to his advantage. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===i she be===
*In [[i she be]], Strong Bad is sent a phony email saying a girl was named great looking girl. After he plays along with it, he yells at her saying he gets a lot of emails like that and from "ladies with proper grammar" but then feels sorry for her. Thinking that he shouldn't let the email go to waste, he sends it to "[[The Cheat]]", later they text each other on an I.M.
What part of this is twisting? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===trevor the vampire===
*In the email [[trevor the vampire]], since Trevor doesn't finish the sentence, Strong Bad tries to make an email in his honor, thinking that "they" got him.
How is he supposed to respond to a half-finished email? Trevor didn't even say anything for Strong Bad to twist! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, he DID address for him to do something other than memorializing the email, the vampire thing had nothing to do with the email itself.

===studying===
*Email [[studying]] — he "advises" Roy to stop studying and spend time with his girlfriend. He later tries to steal his girlfriend, but he says that doesn't know her name or where she lives.
Again, not twisting anything. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===stand-up===
*In [[stand-up]], Joe p. wants him to do stand-up comedy. He repeatedly states "no", trying to avoid telling about an embarrassing thing that had happened to him before. "[[Strong Sad]]" comes in shortly after to show a tape of [[Lil' Strong Bad]] doing stand-up, somehow ending up in his [[pants]] falling for no real reason.
This is a [[blatant lie]], not a twisting of an email. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===CGNU===
*In the email [[CGNU]], Strong Bad, instead of telling how to graduate at [[CGNU]], he ends up making an advertisement for it. Also revealing that CGNU is not a real college an applying for it is just to make fun of you.
He is asked how someone can graduate from CGNU and he responds with an ad about getting your degree from CGNU, makes sense to me... (the disclaimer at the end is a throwaway one-liner, and could also be construed as a "you can't" response to the email. either way, it's not a twist.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===flag day===
*In [[flag day]] Strong Bad goes immediately from introducing the flag to singing the [[Strong Badia]] song.
He shows everybody the flag, what more do you want? Is it not proper to sing one's national anthem as you raise the flag? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===property of ones===
*In the email [[property of ones]], he responds to his email with 2 sentences before trailing off to his [[bogus mathematical theorem]]
He responds. Then goes into his bogus theorum. Not twisting, elaborating. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===little questions===
*In [[little questions]] Strong Bad gets an email from a Swedish person, misspelling things and making grammatical errors throughout. Strong Bad responds in what he knows of how the Swedish talk, instead of answering without leaving a big question on what just happened.
He responds to gibberish with gibberish, as best he can. What's the problem here? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===marzipan===
*In [[marzipan]] Strong Bad goes from Emily's question about how nobody ever sees him with any girls. She mentions that [[the only girl]] she's ever seen even near him is [[Marzipan]]. Strong Bad then starts ranting that [[Marzipan]] can't keep her "hands" offa me (although this is entirely untrue).
Again, a [[blatant lie]], not a twist.

===In addition===
There are a few that I left in that aren't blatantly going against the subject of the email, but still don't answer it entirely, which raises the question, what is the scope of this page? Is it about instances like [[big white face]] and [[homsar]] where the intent is clearly one thing but he does the complete opposite, or should it include instances like [[retirement]] and [[rough copy]], where strong bad sort of does what's asked but not really, or goes off on some unrelated tangent without first answering the email? (ones where he does first answer it definitely don't count, and i removed a bunch of those above.) The ones that are still there that I am referring to in particular are:
*[[some kinda robot]]
*[[retirement]]
*[[strong badathlon]]
Thoughts? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, it could be those that aren't blantantly going against the email, but still don't answer it completely, about instances like [[big white face]] and [[homsar]], '''and''' include instances like [[retirement]] and [[rough copy]]. {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 16:40, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:I've been invited to add [[old comics]] and [[no loafing]] to the list here. While I'm at it, Defender, can I ask, what [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Twisting_emails&offset=20071209235020&limit=1&curid=39603&action=history consensus] are you talking about? Barely 2 hours ago you undid my own removal of these from the article, but all of a sudden you've been convinced of a consensus and you've gone ahead with these removals and more? Where was any of it discussed and who participated? I'm just wondering because it's not clear to me what makes action acceptable, since mine was not (to you) but your own (nearly identical one) apparently is. 76.254.87.139 00:32, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::Because i didn't think they belonged there to begin with, but i didn't remove them until i saw consensus. The talk is fragmented all over this page and edit summaries in the history, but after [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Twisting_emails&diff=525716&oldid=525714&rcid=482465 this edit] it seemed to me that there were enough people in favor of the removal and none against. I AGREED with you from the start, i just wanted to wait for more consensus to be sure. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Anyway, you're right, a username is a good idear. Tenderly, I remain... [[User:Cableman Jorge|Cableman Jorge]] 00:46, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

===Emails from the Intro===
I hope 3 days afterwards isn't too late for me to bring up this thing from the intro I shortened:
*Unusually, some of the mixed up emails actually create major parts of the [[Homestar Runner universe]]; [[Dangeresque]], several [[running gags]], [[Homsar]], [[Limozeen]], [[kicking The Cheat]], etc.
If I remember these emails correctly, he didn't even ''try'' to twist them. He created Dangeresque as proof he didn't need a [[stunt double]], he brought up Limozeen because some kid asked him to help come up with [[band names]], and he kicked The Cheat to show what he would do if a [[little animal]] came up to him. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

===monster truck===
*Email [[monster truck]]— Stan and Loretta ask Strong Bad if he has ever done advertising for monster truck shows. He then twists it into him doing voice overs for [[Strong Badia]] events.
What is twisted about answering "do you do monster truck commercials" by making fun of a monster truck commercial????? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 19:18, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== Email tags? ==

Since this page can only have appearances in emails, is it necessary to write "Email" at the beginning of each line? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:19, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

== Rename ==

I think it needs a new name. No ideas though. Anyone else got any? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:20, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:How 'bout '''Ignored''' emails. {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 16:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::Nah, that sounds like it's just talking about the [[unused emails]]. He's not ignoring them, he's doing the opposite. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:37, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Oppisite? {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 16:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, thanks DeFender for taking care of three of the four issues I identified and it looks like there are still plenty of content there. How about "Tangental responses"? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:27, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, i think that [[#In addition|the scope of the page]] needs to be clearly defined before we can come up with a name. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:30, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::If anything, I thing "emails" in the title needs to be capitalized. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 23:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::But of course. We're still left without an actual name... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:19, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::How 'bout "Strong Bad forgetting the task in an email"? {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}
::::::::Too long, Clanky! TOO LONG! {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:"Derailed Emails", "Hijacked Emails", or "Diverted Emails" :) '''→''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 05:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::We should definitely change it. I like "Hijacked Emails" best so far, but I don't think it's a very good title.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:01, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
How about "Off-topic sbmail (responses)"

== Unanswered? ==
Let's not allow this to go un-answered, then: Under what scope do belong emails in which the question in fact was answered, at least to the best of SB's ability? I'm talking specifically about [[no loafing]] and [[old comics]] which didn't before seem to fit in any proposed or imagined scope, but I was instructed to hold my horses and not delete those until a re-name was decided upon. For reference's sake, the history including justifying comments is here: http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Twisting_emails&dir=prev&offset=20071209223947&limit=3&action=history As you can see, I've stated why the emails were in fact '''not un-answered'''.[[User:76.247.46.146|76.247.46.146]] 23:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:You can also see that neither of these emails are among the examples where Defender is calling attention to, and attempting a discussion of, [[#In addition|the scope of the page]]. Why not? Is it because an answer, or at least a genuine attempt at an answer, is present in each of those emails? [[User:76.247.46.146|76.247.46.146]] 23:16, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::No, it's because i didn't notice those, you're welcome to add them to that list. Personally, i think that the scope of this page should be only the times where strong bad '''specifically''' does the opposite of what the sender is asking, like [[big white face]] or [[12:00]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:21, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::The Chort believes old comics is [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Derailed_Emails&diff=527541&oldid=526565 "the perfect example of a derailed email"]. I've grown neutral to its inclusion because it's too hard for me to figure out if "the KOT's always had a poopsmith" truly means "I don't know". [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:23, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::::I'd say it's as about as derailed as [[what I want]], which is still on the page. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:15, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Should I go put it back? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:29, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

== What links here ==

Right now, Defender's userpage is the only What Links Here. Was that true earlier? Were links to this page removed? Is this ultimately intended to be a Category or anything like that? It's funny, none of the early contributors appear to have made any links to this page. But as long as we're discussing [[#In addition|the scope of the page]], let's look forward to what the endgame will be once the page is actually in shape. Tenderly, I remain, [[User:Cableman Jorge|Cableman Jorge]] 01:09, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:Lol, did not realize that. MEh, once we're done, we'll add links to the various pages involved {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::If derailed emails don't count as inside references, where ''should'' we put the links? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:57, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

== Introduction ==

It needs some rewording. Strong Bad does not completely ignore the email. Each time it is somewhat, though not exactly, related to the email sent to him. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:51, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:I put "Disregards" as opposed to "Ignores". It makes all the difference to me, but if it seems wrong to anyone... :B '''→''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 18:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Picture ==
[[Image:Choose Your Own Strong Bad Email Adventure.PNG|thumb]]
Would you like to see the book from [[1 step ahead]] used as a picture? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:I don't see an image there now, so I see no drawback to you putting in this image. '''Be bold''', you know? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Badathlon ==

I still think it counts. He does not do the stuff they requested. If I summarize it like this, the randomness is even more evident: "Throw The Cheat or beat up Homestar! No! We're going to make fun of the olympics tonight!" (I've just been bothered with the email's randomness for months now) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:20, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:Makes sense to me. I added it. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 12:49, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

== New Commando Name - DONE! ==

It's been re-named, so, I'll do away with the <nowiki>{{rename}}</nowiki> template. Tenderly, I remain, [[User:Cableman Jorge|Cableman Jorge]] 04:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, the page was moved prematurely to "Derailed" before there was any real concensus. The rename discussion is still ongoing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:42, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

== [[Sick Day]]? ==

Should [[Sick Day]] be included here, even if it's a Short Toon and not technically a sbemail? Strong Bad does receive an email and it does get derailed, however. Thoughts? [[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 11:22, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Emails Taken in a Different Direction

2008-01-04T10:50:58Z

Dynamite: /* Appearances */

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2008-01-04T10:41:39Z

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2008-01-04T10:33:35Z

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{{sbenav|97}}
[[Image:sbemail97.png|thumb|On a massive scale that would rival the Aztecs.]]

Strong Bad is asked to create a monument in his own image. He goes on to explain how the arrival of the Thnikkaman distracted him and prevented the completion of the monument.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Bubs}}/[[The Thnikkaman]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Badia]], [[The Field]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' Monday, February 9, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 2:08

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Three}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Oh, traipsing along, traipsing traipsing along, and a email got stuck in my eye.

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Hey there Strong Bad! 
I was thinking since so many people 
and ladies think you're SUPER COOL, 
why not build a monument to yourself 
for all to enjoy? 
 
Another fan, 
Kaitlin G.</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad puts an emphasis on "SUPER COOL".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I'm assuming the G stands for generally overused girl's first name. Well generic name, you're really onto something here. Turns out I AM super cool. ''{He clears his throat.}'' As for monuments, I already got one. But it's kinda ''{He clears the screen and continues typing.}'' only of my right foot. You might know it better as DUN DUN DAAA: The Strong Badia Sign!

''{Cut to the [[Stop Sign]], then to a picture of Strong Bad. As he narrates, a diagram of the monument is built.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Yeah, there were big plans once. It was to be made of the finest materials. On a massive scale that would rival the Aztecs and their...techno-chocolate land.

''{Cut back to the Compy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Anyways, we lost our funding or public interest waned or something distracted me. Man, what was it? What could possibly have distracted me from ''{mumbling}'' humbera hum...

''{Cut to Strong Badia, where Strong Bad and The Cheat are building the monument.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh yeah, The Cheat. That totally looks like my right foot. It's got all the rightness of a foot without all the footdom of a right.

'''UNSEEN CHORUS:''' ''{singing}'' Here comes the Thnikkaman!!!

''{These words float across the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No way! Check it out The Cheat. ''{Strong Bad looks and points off-screen.}'' It's the Thnikkaman!!

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat run to meet the Thnikkaman, who is obviously Bubs wearing sunglasses and a "TH" sign taped to his chest.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, Thnikkaman!

'''THNIKKAMAN:''' Hey, kid!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Can we have some?

'''THNIKKAMAN:''' Yeah, okay.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thanks, Thnikkaman! 
'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{simultaneously, grateful The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in a low voice}'' Thanks, Thnikkaman.

'''THNIKKAMAN:''' Yeah. ''{takes off his sunglasses}'' Shut up, kid!

'''UNSEEN CHORUS:''' ''{singing}'' There goes the Thnikkaman!!!

''{Now these words float across the screen. Strong Bad and The Cheat look at each other, Strong Bad's mouth is agape. Thnikkaman exits. Cut back to Compy 386.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So you can see why I got distracted. I'd like to see you stay on task when you're starin' down the barrel of a loaded Thnikkaman. I don't care what you're doin. No one can resist. ''{not typing}'' Speakin' of monuments, somebody should make one to the Thnikkaman. Oh the things that man does! Come to think of it, what exactly ''does'' that man do? ''{typing again}'' Anyways, I'm gonna go try and find some of that Technochocolate. That stuff sounds a-prettypretty good!

''{Strong Bad gets up from his seat and leaves. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on "Thnikkaman" at the end to see Bubs in his Thnikkaman costume with a flashy background dancing to the Thnikkaman theme song.
:'''UNSEEN CHORUS:''' ''{singing}'' ''{Bubs walks to the left}'' Here comes the Thnikka— ''{Bubs walks to the right.}'' There goes the Thnikka— ''{Bubs walks to the left.}'' Here comes the Thnikka— ''{Bubs walks to the right.}'' There goes the Thnikka— ''{Bubs walks to the left.}'' Here comes the Thnikkaman!
:'''THNIKKAMAN:''' ''{faces camera and removes sunglasses}'' Yeah, shut up, kid!
*Click on "I don't care what you're doin" at the end to see Homestar Runner being distracted by the Thnikkaman.
:''{Cut to the field. Homestar Runner is holding a pair of trousers.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, I'll just, uh, put these pants on—
:'''UNSEEN CHORUS:''' ''{singing}'' Here comes the Thnikkaman!
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, Thnikkaman. It's the Thnikkaman.
:''{He drops the trousers and runs off to the left.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{He pokes his head back onscreen, singing.}'' Here comes the Thnikkaman!
*Click on "technochocolate" at the end to hear Strong Bad and The Cheat do a chocolate version of Techno. The Cheat throws a one-man lightswitch rave.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*For a time the website [http://www.thnikkaman.com http://www.thnikkaman.com] redirected to this email, but the site has since been shut down.

===Remarks===
*During the "technochocolate" Easter egg, the tiny sign above the lower light switch that The Cheat uses says: "The Cheat," as his switch in [[techno]] does.
*During the Technochocolate Easter egg, the beat Strong Bad is making overlaps with him saying "Technochocolate".
*When Homestar is about to put his pants on, the words "here comes the Thnikkaman" don't fly across the screen.

===Goofs===
*Strong Bad forgets the period after "distracted" near the end when he says, "So you can see why I got distracted".
*The Enter-sound when Strong Bad cuts the email away to answer it does not play completely. It has a dead end.
*Strongs Bad's voice in the "technochocolate" Easter egg is not on beat.
*Homestar Runner's legs don't line up with his body in the "Thnikkaman" Easter egg.

===Inside References===
*Some of the things composing Strong Bad's monument are from other toons: the [[Kiddie Pool]] labeled "[[Pie Factory]]" is from [[stunt double]], the palm tree is from [[island]], and the toilet paper and the fake afro (from Homestar's [[John McEnroe]] [[3 Times Halloween Funjob Costumes|costume]]) are from [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
*The fact that Homestar is attempting to put on [[pants]] and then, after being distracted, doesn't put them on, is in reference to the ongoing joke about Homestar [[Homestar Runner's Pants|not wearing any pants]] (which is discussed in [[long pants]]).
*The Cheat threw a "Light Switch Rave" to Strong Bad's "The System is Down" song in the email [[techno]]; in [[interview]], the viewer can flick the lightswitch himself to turn on the spinning lights. This is also shown in [[Main Page 4]]. Also, in the further-back toon [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], you can turn the light switch, but nothing happens.

===Real-World References===
*Techno-chocolate-land is an attempt to pronounce [[Wikipedia:Tenochtitlan|Tenochtitlan]], the capital city and religious center of the ancient [[Aztecs]] (actually pronounced teh-NOHTCH-teet-lahn), built where [[Wikipedia:Mexico City|Mexico City]] is today. The inclusion of "chocolate" in the mispronunciation may be due to the fact that the Aztecs are often credited for the discovery of chocolate.
*[http://www.biggreenegg.com Big Green Egg] is a combination ceramic barbecue/meat smoker.
*[[Wikipedia:Blow Pops|Blow Pops]] are lollipops with a center of bubblegum, made by the Charms candy company (now owned by [[Wikipedia:Tootsie Roll Industries|Tootsie Roll Industries]]).

===Fast Forward===
*Technochocolate reappears in later emails as a [[Club Technochocolate|club]].
*Even though Strong Bad does apparently not recognize Bubs when the Thnikkaman removes his shades, [[Coach Z]] believes that removing the Thnikkaman's glasses will reveal his secret "sorcret" identity in the Strong Bad Email [[cliffhangers]].
*Strong Bad explains what the Thnikkaman does in [[Happy Dethemberween]].

== External Links ==
{{preforumsbemailextlinks|97}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}

monument

2008-01-04T10:33:05Z

Dynamite: /* Fast Forward */

{{sbenav|97}}
[[Image:sbemail97.png|thumb|On a massive scale that would rival the Aztecs.]]

Strong Bad is asked to create a monument in his own image. He goes on to explain how the arrival of the Thnikkaman distracted him and prevented the completion of the monument.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Bubs}}/[[The Thnikkaman]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Badia]], [[The Field]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' Monday, February 9, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 2:08

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Three}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Oh, traipsing along, traipsing traipsing along, and a email got stuck in my eye.

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Hey there Strong Bad! 
I was thinking since so many people 
and ladies think you're SUPER COOL, 
why not build a monument to yourself 
for all to enjoy? 
 
Another fan, 
Kaitlin G.</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad puts an emphasis on "SUPER COOL".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I'm assuming the G stands for generally overused girl's first name. Well generic name, you're really onto something here. Turns out I AM super cool. ''{He clears his throat.}'' As for monuments, I already got one. But it's kinda ''{He clears the screen and continues typing.}'' only of my right foot. You might know it better as DUN DUN DAAA: The Strong Badia Sign!

''{Cut to the [[Stop Sign]], then to a picture of Strong Bad. As he narrates, a diagram of the monument is built.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Yeah, there were big plans once. It was to be made of the finest materials. On a massive scale that would rival the Aztecs and their...techno-chocolate land.

''{Cut back to the Compy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Anyways, we lost our funding or public interest waned or something distracted me. Man, what was it? What could possibly have distracted me from ''{mumbling}'' humbera hum...

''{Cut to Strong Badia, where Strong Bad and The Cheat are building the monument.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh yeah, The Cheat. That totally looks like my right foot. It's got all the rightness of a foot without all the footdom of a right.

'''UNSEEN CHORUS:''' ''{singing}'' Here comes the Thnikkaman!!!

''{These words float across the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No way! Check it out The Cheat. ''{Strong Bad looks and points off-screen.}'' It's the Thnikkaman!!

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat run to meet the Thnikkaman, who is obviously Bubs wearing sunglasses and a "TH" sign taped to his chest.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, Thnikkaman!

'''THNIKKAMAN:''' Hey, kid!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Can we have some?

'''THNIKKAMAN:''' Yeah, okay.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thanks, Thnikkaman! 
'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{simultaneously, grateful The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in a low voice}'' Thanks, Thnikkaman.

'''THNIKKAMAN:''' Yeah. ''{takes off his sunglasses}'' Shut up, kid!

'''UNSEEN CHORUS:''' ''{singing}'' There goes the Thnikkaman!!!

''{Now these words float across the screen. Strong Bad and The Cheat look at each other, Strong Bad's mouth is agape. Thnikkaman exits. Cut back to Compy 386.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So you can see why I got distracted. I'd like to see you stay on task when you're starin' down the barrel of a loaded Thnikkaman. I don't care what you're doin. No one can resist. ''{not typing}'' Speakin' of monuments, somebody should make one to the Thnikkaman. Oh the things that man does! Come to think of it, what exactly ''does'' that man do? ''{typing again}'' Anyways, I'm gonna go try and find some of that Technochocolate. That stuff sounds a-prettypretty good!

''{Strong Bad gets up from his seat and leaves. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on "Thnikkaman" at the end to see Bubs in his Thnikkaman costume with a flashy background dancing to the Thnikkaman theme song.
:'''UNSEEN CHORUS:''' ''{singing}'' ''{Bubs walks to the left}'' Here comes the Thnikka— ''{Bubs walks to the right.}'' There goes the Thnikka— ''{Bubs walks to the left.}'' Here comes the Thnikka— ''{Bubs walks to the right.}'' There goes the Thnikka— ''{Bubs walks to the left.}'' Here comes the Thnikkaman!
:'''THNIKKAMAN:''' ''{faces camera and removes sunglasses}'' Yeah, shut up, kid!
*Click on "I don't care what you're doin" at the end to see Homestar Runner being distracted by the Thnikkaman.
:''{Cut to the field. Homestar Runner is holding a pair of trousers.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, I'll just, uh, put these pants on—
:'''UNSEEN CHORUS:''' ''{singing}'' Here comes the Thnikkaman!
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, Thnikkaman. It's the Thnikkaman.
:''{He drops the trousers and runs off to the left.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{He pokes his head back onscreen, singing.}'' Here comes the Thnikkaman!
*Click on "technochocolate" at the end to hear Strong Bad and The Cheat do a chocolate version of Techno. The Cheat throws a one-man lightswitch rave.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*For a time the website [http://www.thnikkaman.com http://www.thnikkaman.com] redirected to this email, but the site has since been shut down.

===Remarks===
*During the "technochocolate" Easter egg, the tiny sign above the lower light switch that The Cheat uses says: "The Cheat," as his switch in [[techno]] does.
*During the Technochocolate Easter egg, the beat Strong Bad is making overlaps with him saying "Technochocolate".
*When Homestar is about to put his pants on, the words "here comes the Thnikkaman" don't fly across the screen.

===Goofs===
*Strong Bad forgets the period after "distracted" near the end when he says, "So you can see why I got distracted".
*The Enter-sound when Strong Bad cuts the email away to answer it does not play completely. It has a dead end.
*Strongs Bad's voice in the "technochocolate" Easter egg is not on beat.
*Homestar Runner's legs don't line up with his body in the "Thnikkaman" Easter egg.

===Inside References===
*Some of the things composing Strong Bad's monument are from other toons: the [[Kiddie Pool]] labeled "[[Pie Factory]]" is from [[stunt double]], the palm tree is from [[island]], and the toilet paper and the fake afro (from Homestar's [[John McEnroe]] [[3 Times Halloween Funjob Costumes|costume]]) are from [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
*The fact that Homestar is attempting to put on [[pants]] and then, after being distracted, doesn't put them on, is in reference to the ongoing joke about Homestar [[Homestar Runner's Pants|not wearing any pants]] (which is discussed in [[long pants]]).
*The Cheat threw a "Light Switch Rave" to Strong Bad's "The System is Down" song in the email [[techno]]; in [[interview]], the viewer can flick the lightswitch himself to turn on the spinning lights. This is also shown in [[Main Page 4]]. Also, in the further-back toon [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], you can turn the light switch, but nothing happens.

===Real-World References===
*Techno-chocolate-land is an attempt to pronounce [[Wikipedia:Tenochtitlan|Tenochtitlan]], the capital city and religious center of the ancient [[Aztecs]] (actually pronounced teh-NOHTCH-teet-lahn), built where [[Wikipedia:Mexico City|Mexico City]] is today. The inclusion of "chocolate" in the mispronunciation may be due to the fact that the Aztecs are often credited for the discovery of chocolate.
*[http://www.biggreenegg.com Big Green Egg] is a combination ceramic barbecue/meat smoker.
*[[Wikipedia:Blow Pops|Blow Pops]] are lollipops with a center of bubblegum, made by the Charms candy company (now owned by [[Wikipedia:Tootsie Roll Industries|Tootsie Roll Industries]]).

===Fast Forward===
*Technochocolate reappears in later emails as a [[Club Technochocolate|club]].
*Even though Strong Bad does apparently not recognize Bubs when the Thnikkaman removes his shades, [[Coach Z]] believes that removing the Thnikkaman's glasses will reveal his secret sorcret identity in the Strong Bad Email [[cliffhangers]].
*Strong Bad explains what the Thnikkaman does in [[Happy Dethemberween]].

== External Links ==
{{preforumsbemailextlinks|97}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}

monument

2008-01-04T10:32:18Z

Dynamite: /* Inside References */

{{sbenav|97}}
[[Image:sbemail97.png|thumb|On a massive scale that would rival the Aztecs.]]

Strong Bad is asked to create a monument in his own image. He goes on to explain how the arrival of the Thnikkaman distracted him and prevented the completion of the monument.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Bubs}}/[[The Thnikkaman]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Badia]], [[The Field]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' Monday, February 9, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 2:08

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Three}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Oh, traipsing along, traipsing traipsing along, and a email got stuck in my eye.

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Hey there Strong Bad! 
I was thinking since so many people 
and ladies think you're SUPER COOL, 
why not build a monument to yourself 
for all to enjoy? 
 
Another fan, 
Kaitlin G.</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad puts an emphasis on "SUPER COOL".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I'm assuming the G stands for generally overused girl's first name. Well generic name, you're really onto something here. Turns out I AM super cool. ''{He clears his throat.}'' As for monuments, I already got one. But it's kinda ''{He clears the screen and continues typing.}'' only of my right foot. You might know it better as DUN DUN DAAA: The Strong Badia Sign!

''{Cut to the [[Stop Sign]], then to a picture of Strong Bad. As he narrates, a diagram of the monument is built.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Yeah, there were big plans once. It was to be made of the finest materials. On a massive scale that would rival the Aztecs and their...techno-chocolate land.

''{Cut back to the Compy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Anyways, we lost our funding or public interest waned or something distracted me. Man, what was it? What could possibly have distracted me from ''{mumbling}'' humbera hum...

''{Cut to Strong Badia, where Strong Bad and The Cheat are building the monument.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh yeah, The Cheat. That totally looks like my right foot. It's got all the rightness of a foot without all the footdom of a right.

'''UNSEEN CHORUS:''' ''{singing}'' Here comes the Thnikkaman!!!

''{These words float across the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No way! Check it out The Cheat. ''{Strong Bad looks and points off-screen.}'' It's the Thnikkaman!!

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat run to meet the Thnikkaman, who is obviously Bubs wearing sunglasses and a "TH" sign taped to his chest.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, Thnikkaman!

'''THNIKKAMAN:''' Hey, kid!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Can we have some?

'''THNIKKAMAN:''' Yeah, okay.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thanks, Thnikkaman! 
'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{simultaneously, grateful The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in a low voice}'' Thanks, Thnikkaman.

'''THNIKKAMAN:''' Yeah. ''{takes off his sunglasses}'' Shut up, kid!

'''UNSEEN CHORUS:''' ''{singing}'' There goes the Thnikkaman!!!

''{Now these words float across the screen. Strong Bad and The Cheat look at each other, Strong Bad's mouth is agape. Thnikkaman exits. Cut back to Compy 386.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So you can see why I got distracted. I'd like to see you stay on task when you're starin' down the barrel of a loaded Thnikkaman. I don't care what you're doin. No one can resist. ''{not typing}'' Speakin' of monuments, somebody should make one to the Thnikkaman. Oh the things that man does! Come to think of it, what exactly ''does'' that man do? ''{typing again}'' Anyways, I'm gonna go try and find some of that Technochocolate. That stuff sounds a-prettypretty good!

''{Strong Bad gets up from his seat and leaves. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on "Thnikkaman" at the end to see Bubs in his Thnikkaman costume with a flashy background dancing to the Thnikkaman theme song.
:'''UNSEEN CHORUS:''' ''{singing}'' ''{Bubs walks to the left}'' Here comes the Thnikka— ''{Bubs walks to the right.}'' There goes the Thnikka— ''{Bubs walks to the left.}'' Here comes the Thnikka— ''{Bubs walks to the right.}'' There goes the Thnikka— ''{Bubs walks to the left.}'' Here comes the Thnikkaman!
:'''THNIKKAMAN:''' ''{faces camera and removes sunglasses}'' Yeah, shut up, kid!
*Click on "I don't care what you're doin" at the end to see Homestar Runner being distracted by the Thnikkaman.
:''{Cut to the field. Homestar Runner is holding a pair of trousers.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, I'll just, uh, put these pants on—
:'''UNSEEN CHORUS:''' ''{singing}'' Here comes the Thnikkaman!
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, Thnikkaman. It's the Thnikkaman.
:''{He drops the trousers and runs off to the left.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{He pokes his head back onscreen, singing.}'' Here comes the Thnikkaman!
*Click on "technochocolate" at the end to hear Strong Bad and The Cheat do a chocolate version of Techno. The Cheat throws a one-man lightswitch rave.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*For a time the website [http://www.thnikkaman.com http://www.thnikkaman.com] redirected to this email, but the site has since been shut down.

===Remarks===
*During the "technochocolate" Easter egg, the tiny sign above the lower light switch that The Cheat uses says: "The Cheat," as his switch in [[techno]] does.
*During the Technochocolate Easter egg, the beat Strong Bad is making overlaps with him saying "Technochocolate".
*When Homestar is about to put his pants on, the words "here comes the Thnikkaman" don't fly across the screen.

===Goofs===
*Strong Bad forgets the period after "distracted" near the end when he says, "So you can see why I got distracted".
*The Enter-sound when Strong Bad cuts the email away to answer it does not play completely. It has a dead end.
*Strongs Bad's voice in the "technochocolate" Easter egg is not on beat.
*Homestar Runner's legs don't line up with his body in the "Thnikkaman" Easter egg.

===Inside References===
*Some of the things composing Strong Bad's monument are from other toons: the [[Kiddie Pool]] labeled "[[Pie Factory]]" is from [[stunt double]], the palm tree is from [[island]], and the toilet paper and the fake afro (from Homestar's [[John McEnroe]] [[3 Times Halloween Funjob Costumes|costume]]) are from [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
*The fact that Homestar is attempting to put on [[pants]] and then, after being distracted, doesn't put them on, is in reference to the ongoing joke about Homestar [[Homestar Runner's Pants|not wearing any pants]] (which is discussed in [[long pants]]).
*The Cheat threw a "Light Switch Rave" to Strong Bad's "The System is Down" song in the email [[techno]]; in [[interview]], the viewer can flick the lightswitch himself to turn on the spinning lights. This is also shown in [[Main Page 4]]. Also, in the further-back toon [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], you can turn the light switch, but nothing happens.

===Real-World References===
*Techno-chocolate-land is an attempt to pronounce [[Wikipedia:Tenochtitlan|Tenochtitlan]], the capital city and religious center of the ancient [[Aztecs]] (actually pronounced teh-NOHTCH-teet-lahn), built where [[Wikipedia:Mexico City|Mexico City]] is today. The inclusion of "chocolate" in the mispronunciation may be due to the fact that the Aztecs are often credited for the discovery of chocolate.
*[http://www.biggreenegg.com Big Green Egg] is a combination ceramic barbecue/meat smoker.
*[[Wikipedia:Blow Pops|Blow Pops]] are lollipops with a center of bubblegum, made by the Charms candy company (now owned by [[Wikipedia:Tootsie Roll Industries|Tootsie Roll Industries]]).

===Fast Forward===
*Technochocolate reappears in later emails as a [[Club Technochocolate|club]].
*Even though Strong Bad does apparently not recognize Bubs when the Thnikkaman removes his shades, [[Coach Z]] believes that removing the Thnikkaman's glasses will reveal his secret identity in the Strong Bad Email [[cliffhangers]].
*Strong Bad explains what the Thnikkaman does in [[Happy Dethemberween]].

== External Links ==
{{preforumsbemailextlinks|97}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}

monument

2008-01-04T10:31:03Z

Dynamite: /* Inside References */

{{sbenav|97}}
[[Image:sbemail97.png|thumb|On a massive scale that would rival the Aztecs.]]

Strong Bad is asked to create a monument in his own image. He goes on to explain how the arrival of the Thnikkaman distracted him and prevented the completion of the monument.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Bubs}}/[[The Thnikkaman]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Badia]], [[The Field]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' Monday, February 9, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 2:08

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Three}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Oh, traipsing along, traipsing traipsing along, and a email got stuck in my eye.

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Hey there Strong Bad! 
I was thinking since so many people 
and ladies think you're SUPER COOL, 
why not build a monument to yourself 
for all to enjoy? 
 
Another fan, 
Kaitlin G.</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad puts an emphasis on "SUPER COOL".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I'm assuming the G stands for generally overused girl's first name. Well generic name, you're really onto something here. Turns out I AM super cool. ''{He clears his throat.}'' As for monuments, I already got one. But it's kinda ''{He clears the screen and continues typing.}'' only of my right foot. You might know it better as DUN DUN DAAA: The Strong Badia Sign!

''{Cut to the [[Stop Sign]], then to a picture of Strong Bad. As he narrates, a diagram of the monument is built.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Yeah, there were big plans once. It was to be made of the finest materials. On a massive scale that would rival the Aztecs and their...techno-chocolate land.

''{Cut back to the Compy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Anyways, we lost our funding or public interest waned or something distracted me. Man, what was it? What could possibly have distracted me from ''{mumbling}'' humbera hum...

''{Cut to Strong Badia, where Strong Bad and The Cheat are building the monument.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh yeah, The Cheat. That totally looks like my right foot. It's got all the rightness of a foot without all the footdom of a right.

'''UNSEEN CHORUS:''' ''{singing}'' Here comes the Thnikkaman!!!

''{These words float across the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No way! Check it out The Cheat. ''{Strong Bad looks and points off-screen.}'' It's the Thnikkaman!!

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat run to meet the Thnikkaman, who is obviously Bubs wearing sunglasses and a "TH" sign taped to his chest.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, Thnikkaman!

'''THNIKKAMAN:''' Hey, kid!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Can we have some?

'''THNIKKAMAN:''' Yeah, okay.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thanks, Thnikkaman! 
'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{simultaneously, grateful The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in a low voice}'' Thanks, Thnikkaman.

'''THNIKKAMAN:''' Yeah. ''{takes off his sunglasses}'' Shut up, kid!

'''UNSEEN CHORUS:''' ''{singing}'' There goes the Thnikkaman!!!

''{Now these words float across the screen. Strong Bad and The Cheat look at each other, Strong Bad's mouth is agape. Thnikkaman exits. Cut back to Compy 386.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So you can see why I got distracted. I'd like to see you stay on task when you're starin' down the barrel of a loaded Thnikkaman. I don't care what you're doin. No one can resist. ''{not typing}'' Speakin' of monuments, somebody should make one to the Thnikkaman. Oh the things that man does! Come to think of it, what exactly ''does'' that man do? ''{typing again}'' Anyways, I'm gonna go try and find some of that Technochocolate. That stuff sounds a-prettypretty good!

''{Strong Bad gets up from his seat and leaves. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on "Thnikkaman" at the end to see Bubs in his Thnikkaman costume with a flashy background dancing to the Thnikkaman theme song.
:'''UNSEEN CHORUS:''' ''{singing}'' ''{Bubs walks to the left}'' Here comes the Thnikka— ''{Bubs walks to the right.}'' There goes the Thnikka— ''{Bubs walks to the left.}'' Here comes the Thnikka— ''{Bubs walks to the right.}'' There goes the Thnikka— ''{Bubs walks to the left.}'' Here comes the Thnikkaman!
:'''THNIKKAMAN:''' ''{faces camera and removes sunglasses}'' Yeah, shut up, kid!
*Click on "I don't care what you're doin" at the end to see Homestar Runner being distracted by the Thnikkaman.
:''{Cut to the field. Homestar Runner is holding a pair of trousers.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, I'll just, uh, put these pants on—
:'''UNSEEN CHORUS:''' ''{singing}'' Here comes the Thnikkaman!
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, Thnikkaman. It's the Thnikkaman.
:''{He drops the trousers and runs off to the left.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{He pokes his head back onscreen, singing.}'' Here comes the Thnikkaman!
*Click on "technochocolate" at the end to hear Strong Bad and The Cheat do a chocolate version of Techno. The Cheat throws a one-man lightswitch rave.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*For a time the website [http://www.thnikkaman.com http://www.thnikkaman.com] redirected to this email, but the site has since been shut down.

===Remarks===
*During the "technochocolate" Easter egg, the tiny sign above the lower light switch that The Cheat uses says: "The Cheat," as his switch in [[techno]] does.
*During the Technochocolate Easter egg, the beat Strong Bad is making overlaps with him saying "Technochocolate".
*When Homestar is about to put his pants on, the words "here comes the Thnikkaman" don't fly across the screen.

===Goofs===
*Strong Bad forgets the period after "distracted" near the end when he says, "So you can see why I got distracted".
*The Enter-sound when Strong Bad cuts the email away to answer it does not play completely. It has a dead end.
*Strongs Bad's voice in the "technochocolate" Easter egg is not on beat.
*Homestar Runner's legs don't line up with his body in the "Thnikkaman" Easter egg.

===Inside References===
*Some of the things composing Strong Bad's monument are from other toons: the [[Kiddie Pool]] labeled "[[Pie Factory]]" is from [[stunt double]], the palm tree is from [[island]], and the toilet paper and the fake afro (from Homestar's [[John McEnroe]] [[3 Times Halloween Funjob Costumes|costume]]) are from [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
*The fact that Homestar is attempting to put on [[pants]] and then, after being distracted, doesn't put them on, is in reference to the ongoing joke about Homestar [[Homestar Runner's Pants|not wearing any pants]] (which is discussed in [[long pants]]).
*The Cheat threw a "Light Switch Rave" to Strong Bad's "The System is Down" song in the email [[techno]]; in [[interview]], the viewer can flick the lightswitch himself to turn on the spinning lights. This is also shown in [[Main Page 4]]. Also, in the further-back toon [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], you can turn the light switch, but nothing happens

===Real-World References===
*Techno-chocolate-land is an attempt to pronounce [[Wikipedia:Tenochtitlan|Tenochtitlan]], the capital city and religious center of the ancient [[Aztecs]] (actually pronounced teh-NOHTCH-teet-lahn), built where [[Wikipedia:Mexico City|Mexico City]] is today. The inclusion of "chocolate" in the mispronunciation may be due to the fact that the Aztecs are often credited for the discovery of chocolate.
*[http://www.biggreenegg.com Big Green Egg] is a combination ceramic barbecue/meat smoker.
*[[Wikipedia:Blow Pops|Blow Pops]] are lollipops with a center of bubblegum, made by the Charms candy company (now owned by [[Wikipedia:Tootsie Roll Industries|Tootsie Roll Industries]]).

===Fast Forward===
*Technochocolate reappears in later emails as a [[Club Technochocolate|club]].
*Even though Strong Bad does apparently not recognize Bubs when the Thnikkaman removes his shades, [[Coach Z]] believes that removing the Thnikkaman's glasses will reveal his secret identity in the Strong Bad Email [[cliffhangers]].
*Strong Bad explains what the Thnikkaman does in [[Happy Dethemberween]].

== External Links ==
{{preforumsbemailextlinks|97}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}

HRWiki:Featured Article Selection

2008-01-04T10:26:39Z

Dynamite: /* HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 8 (Feb 18-24) */

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*[[HRWiki:Protected page|Protect]] and add {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} to the new image; Unprotect and remove {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} from old image.
*Semi-protect the live FA write-up; Unprotect the old FA write-up.
*Add {{[[Template:featuredarticle|featuredarticle]]}} to FA's talk page.
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured article nominations]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_article_nominations&action=history history].
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured articles]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_articles&action=history history].
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==Weeklies==
===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 1]] (Dec 31-Jan 6)===
Note: Whatever MediaWiki decides to call December 31 (week 53?), it will be redirected here. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:15, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
:Note again: It decided that it was Week 1, 2007. It displayed [[Cold Ones]] on the main page for a while until forced to display Week 1, 2008. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:09, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

To start of the year, how about a Peasant's Quest thing. Like [[Rather Dashing]], [[Peasantry]], [[The Three Keepers of Trogdor]] or [[The Trog-Cave]]? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 19:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
:How about one of the secondary characters? Both [[Nebulon]] and [[The Stick]] would be worthy for a featured article. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:47, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
::I hate you, The Stick. I mean, yeah, let's do The Stick. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 22:12, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
:::The Stick's prose intro is rather short for a weeklong FA, though. Does anyone think they could expand it? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:13, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
::::[[Nebulon]] is a more thorough article, at any rate. I think it would make a better FA. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:54, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::::No, we haven't featured those already. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:56, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Already did check, thanks, and those articles haven't been featured. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:42, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::Any last-minute opinions before I decide? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:13, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Ol' Nebby looks good. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:48, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 2]] (Jan 7-13)===
A Short Perhaps? Good shorts: [[One Two, One Two]], [[Drive-Thru]], [[Looking at a Thing In A Bag]]? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 19:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
: I'll throw in [[Strongest Man In The World]] as another good short for this week. Though [[Looking at a Thing In A Bag]] would be an excellent idea. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:48, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm going with the thing in a bag. {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 13:45, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:How about [[dragon]] because January 13 was when dragon was first released. Though hardly a man is still alive that remembers that fateful day and year. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 20:40, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'd go with Looking at a Thing In A Bag or dragon. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:21, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Let's give Troggie a happy 5th Trogday feature: [[dragon]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Shouldnt we do happy trogday since it is trogday, and to dragon next week? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 16:00, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::One Trogdor birthday feature should be enough for one year, and [[dragon]], as the email that started it all, seems like the better choice. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:04, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
::::I Agree, but I like Drive-Thru. Maybe for next week 'cuz dragon IS a good pick Dynamite ;)

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 3]] (Jan 14-20)===
I'm thinking we should do a good article nobody knows about. [['d]], maybe? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 02:31, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:I think [['d]] is a well-known article actually... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
::We haven't done something real world in a while. [[TMBG Concert - 25 Sep 2004]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
::: Wait, the late night jengajam interview! great interview! {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 02:32, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Um, I suppose I could have it finished by then....{{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 03:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think the TBMG concert would probably be fine, and we could let Wbwolf take his time shanking our jengaship and feature it later. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:08, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::I'm gonna say [[mascot]]. An important email with a good background reference.
::::::I don't think we need to feature any more sbemails than we already are. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:59, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 4]] (Jan 21-27)===
How about a daily featured article week with [[Compy 386]] emails. Just some classics: [[comic]], [[japanese cartoon]], [[dragon]], [[crazy cartoon]], [[personal favorites]], [[monument]], [[video games]], [[your friends]], [[invisibility]], [[time capsule]], [[monster truck]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 20:35, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:I think most Compy emails are big enough to be featured for a whole week. Plus, I don't really like having daily articles. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 12:13, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::I think this is a good idea to do at some point (I ''don't'' think more than a few compy emails are worth a whole week), but I think it's still too soon after our most recent set of dailies. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:51, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:::We featured [[Cheerleader]] last year and have never gotten around to featuring any other TGS characters. How about [[So and So]]? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:56, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::::So and So would make a great FA. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 06:12, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Agreed. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::I think so, too. Dynamite ^o.o^
::::::::Have a look at [[HRWiki:Featured articles]] to see what we've featured and what we haven't. You'll notice these aren't there. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:39, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 5]] (Jan 28-Feb 3)===
Another grammar thing! I'd personally like to see '''[[Nondescript Nouns]]''', but it's prose is too short. Perhaps we could expand it? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:I've always thought Nondescript Nouns's scope was a bit ambiguous, and I don't really think it's our finest work. Perhaps another running gag, such as [[Crapfully Yours]]? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:55, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:No, we have not done Crapfully Yours already. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:57, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::Aside from the "SBEmail extravaganza" suggested above, I haven't seen some of the classic SBEmails suggested in [[HRWiki_talk:Featured_Article_Selection#Milestone_emails.|the talk page]] being featured recently. Might I suggest [[army]]? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 09:33, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I tend to think we already feature emails often enough. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:49, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Perhaps but:
::::#A sizeable portion of the H*R content are emails, making them an important type of article to feature.
::::#In the last 26-week stretch, I counted 9 sbemails being featured. However, 7 of those were part of a daily feature of [[HRWiki:Featured_articles/Archive_5#Week_29.2C_2007.2C_Day_7|week 29]]. Only two have been feature since then: [[what I want]] and [[alternate universe]], although #150 is a milestone, both emails are pretty recent compared to some of the older "classics" that have yet to be featured.
::::#[[mascot]] has also been turned down, but I would like to take another step to complete [[HRWiki_talk:Featured_Article_Selection#Milestone_emails.ElCool's list]]. I feel like that 1-week spat gave a false sense of email over-featuring. (Granted we definitely don't need another weekly email feature for some time.)
::::What say ye? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:13, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::We Haven't done any Powered By The Cheat things in a while, or, ever, maybe one of those. Maybe [[New boots]]? Dynamite =|
:::::You know, [[mascot]] was denied by the same person denying these emails and for the same reason, so don't shoot it down yet.

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 6]] (Feb 4-10)===
It's time Minor Characters got their time to shine. Any minor characters you can think of? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:How minor is [[Rumble Red]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:19, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::I don't think we need to feature a minor character. We're talking about featuring one in early January, along with a TGS character a bit later in the month. I'm thinking we might try featuring an item, since we do that somewhat rarely. Perhaps the [[No Loafing Sign]]? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:43, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::We haven't featured the [[No Loafing Sign]] yet? Yeah, let's do that. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 16:34, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
::::It's hard to believe we haven't done that one yet. I vote yes! Dynamite o.0

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 7]] (Feb 11-17)===
[[Who Said What Now?]]. [[User:60.230.37.94|60.230.37.94]] 06:49, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:We really shouldn't be featuring that. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 21:31, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::At some point, we ought to feature something from the Lappynapping saga. Ideally, I'd love to feature the entire saga for a week, but we don't exactly have a summary article for the whole thing, and I'm not sure we should. One possibility could be just featuring [[cliffhangers]] one week and [[retirement]] the next (pros, it allows us to cover the saga; cons, it takes up two weeks). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:42, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I like the idea, but I also agree with the problems. The closest we have to a summary article is on [[Lappy 486#Lappy-napping|the Lappy's page]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::::How bout a Valentines/Valentimes day toon. [[Teen Girl Squad 12|TGS 12]]. [[User:Justin Master of Nature|Justin Master of Nature]] 21:19, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Since Valentimes is so rarely done in H*R, featuring [[Teen Girl Squad 12]] would be a good thing for this week. Hopefully, TBC will add more "holiday specials" in the future. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 23:36, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::Totally! Great Idea, I think TGS is important to Vanentines day with Cheerleader's boy obsession. Dynamite =)
:::::::Sure, we can wait on the Lappynapping saga. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Which is a good idea anyway, until we figure out how to feature something that doesn't have a direct page (yet?). Also support TGS12. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:06, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 8]] (Feb 18-24)===
How bout [[Where's An Egg?]]. [[User:Aaron Master of Life|Aaron Master of Life]] 20:35, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:I dunno, I was thinking [[retirement]]. {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:13, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
::Umm...No. Well, maybe ...{drum roll} [[Listerine]]. {{User:Justin Master of Nature/sig}} 21:19, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
:::[[retirement]] might be good, but [[Listerine]] is way to short and let's not forget that it is a [[HRW:OA]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 22:31, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
::I think that [[nightlife]] may be good. It features a lot of important remarks and such in it. Besides, Listerine is too short, anyways. Dynamite 0.o
:::Nightlife is probably too new for an FA. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
:::By the time this article is featured, it wont be. DYNAMITE :{
::::[[Double Deuce]]?!?!?!!?!!?!?!!?!?!?![[User:Justin Master of Nature|Justin Master of Nature]] 16:00, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Well, My choices are as follows and I quote:
:::::"[[Where's an Egg]], 
:::::[[Double Deuce]], 
:::::[[The Simpsons]]" 
:::::{{User:Justin Master of Nature/sig}} 16:06, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::Double Deuce and The Simpsons are a little too short, but if we lengthen it up a little, we could give one of those a shot. Dynamite :>
:::::::If I could pitch in, we could give [[monument]] a try. I really like the email, and the article [[Thnikky]]

==General Discussion==
===Daily Featured Blocks (On Occasion)===
In order to make daily featured articles for one week, create pages like:

*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 1]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 2]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 3]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 4]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 5]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 6]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 0]]</nowiki> (redirect day 7 to this)

HRWiki:Featured Article Selection

2007-12-27T00:06:11Z

Dynamite: /* HRWiki:Feature article for 2008, week 8 (Feb 18-24) */

{{shortcut|FAS||[[FAS]]}}
{| style="background:#CFC; border: 1px dashed #090"
|-
| style="padding:10px" | '''Checklist for new Featured Article:'''
*Make sure the article is proof-read up to a high standard.
*At 0000 [[Wikipedia:Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]] Monday, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=purge purge the main page cache].
*[[HRWiki:Protected page|Protect]] and add {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} to the new image; Unprotect and remove {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} from old image.
*Semi-protect the live FA write-up; Unprotect the old FA write-up.
*Add {{[[Template:featuredarticle|featuredarticle]]}} to FA's talk page.
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured article nominations]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_article_nominations&action=history history].
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured articles]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_articles&action=history history].
|} 
==Discussion Archives==
<center>[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/General Discussion|Other Discussion]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 26-29|2005, Weeks 26-29]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 30-39|2005, Weeks 30-39]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 40-49|2005, Weeks 40-52]]
[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 1-10|2006, Weeks 1-10]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 11-20|2006, Weeks 11-20]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 21-30|2006, Weeks 21-30]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 31-40|2006, Weeks 31-40]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 41-52|2006, Weeks 41-52]]
[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 1-10|2007, Weeks 1-10]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 11-20|2007, Weeks 11-20]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 21-30|2007, Weeks 21-30]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 31-40|2007, Weeks 31-40]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 41-52|2007, Weeks 41-52]]</center>

==Weeklies==
===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2007, week 51]] (Dec 17-23)===
How about [[retirement]]? It's the longest [[Strong Bad Email|sbemail]], and I really like that email. {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:49, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:Nah. I'd like to see something Christmasy, or Decemberweenish. Either [[what I want]] or [[The Decemberween Tree]] would be fine. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 21:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::[[The Decemberween Tree]]'s prose intro is a bit short for a featured article. [[what I want]] would probably work, though. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:03, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I like the idea of doing [[what I want]] too.{{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
::::There aren't that many pre-Decemberween shorts of any substance (though [[Decemberween In July]] might make a good alternate....). I have no problem with [[what I want]] for this week. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:00, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2007, week 52]] (Dec 24-30)===
A Decemberween toon. How about [[A Decemberween Pageant]]? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 21:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:Just to list all the major D'ween toons: [[A Holiday Greeting]] (more or less Decemberween), [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], [[A Decemberween Pageant]] and [[Decemberween Short Shorts]] (I've excluded [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] because we featured that last year). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:41, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::Naw. Like I said before, we should do less daily articles. I think [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] would be a good enough article, as it introduces the word [[Decemberween]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 10:00, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I agree, if we keep on having daily articles for holidays, we are going to run out rather quickly, then...bad stuff happens. I think [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] is a good article to be featured on this day...week.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 11:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Actually, I just realized that you weren't saying that we should do a week of different toons. I should read these posts more carefully. But still, I think we should feature [[The Best Decemberween Ever]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 11:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::I'll just '''support''' having The Best D'ween Ever as the featured for this week... {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 14:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::Yes, just to clarify: I wasn't suggesting dailies, just setting our what our options are. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:11, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, and Best D'ween ever sounds fine to me. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:12, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Sounds good! {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:32, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Yes, one of the best Decemberween cartoons... ever... I agree! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:22, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::I Love it! This is an Important article and deseves The title. Dynamite ^oo^

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 1]] (Dec 31-Jan 6)===
Note: Whatever MediaWiki decides to call December 31 (week 53?), it will be redirected here. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:15, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

To start of the year, how about a Peasant's Quest thing. Like [[Rather Dashing]], [[Peasantry]], [[The Three Keepers of Trogdor]] or [[The Trog-Cave]]? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 19:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
:How about one of the secondary characters? Both [[Nebulon]] and [[The Stick]] would be worthy for a featured article. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:47, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
::I hate you, The Stick. I mean, yeah, let's do The Stick. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 22:12, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
:::The Stick's prose intro is rather short for a weeklong FA, though. Does anyone think they could expand it? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:13, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
::::[[Nebulon]] is a more thorough article, at any rate. I think it would make a better FA. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:54, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:::We've done Nebulon and The Stick, already. Why not [[History According to Strong Bad]]? It seems like a good article to me.
::::No, we haven't featured those already. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:56, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::::You should check again. anyways, Why not try a sbemail, say, [[unnatural]]? Dynamite =]

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 2]] (Jan 7-13)===
A Short Perhaps? Good shorts: [[One Two, One Two]], [[Drive-Thru]], [[Looking at a Thing In A Bag]]? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 19:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
: I'll throw in [[Strongest Man In The World]] as another good short for this week. Though [[Looking at a Thing In A Bag]] would be an excellent idea. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:48, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm going with the thing in a bag. {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 13:45, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:How about [[dragon]] because January 13 was when dragon was first released. Though hardly a man is still alive that remembers that fateful day and year. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 20:40, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'd go with Looking at a Thing In A Bag or dragon. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:21, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Let's give Troggie a happy 5th Trogday feature: [[dragon]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Shouldnt we do happy trogday since it is trogday, and to dragon next week? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 16:00, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::One Trogdor birthday feature should be enough for one year, and [[dragon]], as the email that started it all, seems like the better choice. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:04, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
::::I Agree, but I like Drive-Thru. Maybe for next week 'cuz dragon IS a good pick Dynamite ;)

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 3]] (Jan 14-20)===
I'm thinking we should do a good article nobody knows about. [['d]], maybe? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 02:31, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:I think [['d]] is a well-known article actually... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
::We haven't done something real world in a while. [[TMBG Concert - 25 Sep 2004]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
::: Wait, the late night jengajam interview! great interview! {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 02:32, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Um, I suppose I could have it finished by then....{{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 03:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think the TBMG concert would probably be fine, and we could let Wbwolf take his time shanking our jengaship and feature it later. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:08, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::I'm gonna say [[mascot]]. An important email with a good background reference.
::::::I don't think we need to feature any more sbemails than we already are. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:59, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 4]] (Jan 21-27)===
How about a daily featured article week with [[Compy 386]] emails. Just some classics: [[comic]], [[japanese cartoon]], [[dragon]], [[crazy cartoon]], [[personal favorites]], [[monument]], [[video games]], [[your friends]], [[invisibility]], [[time capsule]], [[monster truck]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 20:35, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:I think most Compy emails are big enough to be featured for a whole week. Plus, I don't really like having daily articles. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 12:13, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::I think this is a good idea to do at some point (I ''don't'' think more than a few compy emails are worth a whole week), but I think it's still too soon after our most recent set of dailies. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:51, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:::We featured [[Cheerleader]] last year and have never gotten around to featuring any other TGS characters. How about [[So and So]]? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:56, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::::So and So would make a great FA. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 06:12, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Agreed. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::I think so, too. Dynamite ^o.o^
:::::::I just saw it on the featured articles already. I think we haven't but I'm curious why everyone says that articles we have featured we have not like the stick. Dynamite :|

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 5]] (Jan 28-Feb 3)===
Another grammar thing! I'd personally like to see '''[[Nondescript Nouns]]''', but it's prose is too short. Perhaps we could expand it? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:I've always thought Nondescript Nouns's scope was a bit ambiguous, and I don't really think it's our finest work. Perhaps another running gag, such as [[Crapfully Yours]]? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:55, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
We've done [[crapfully yours]]. If we wanna do a running gag, how 'bout [[blatant lies]]?

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 6]] (Feb 4-10)===
It's time Minor Characters got their time to shine. Any minor characters you can think of? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:How minor is [[Rumble Red]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:19, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::I don't think we need to feature a minor character. We're talking about featuring one in early January, along with a TGS character a bit later in the month. I'm thinking we might try featuring an item, since we do that somewhat rarely. Perhaps the [[No Loafing Sign]]? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:43, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::We haven't featured the [[No Loafing Sign]] yet? Yeah, let's do that. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 16:34, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
::::It's hard to believe we haven't done that one yet. I vote yes! o.0

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 7]] (Feb 11-17)===
[[Who Said What]]. [[User:60.230.37.94|60.230.37.94]] 06:49, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:We really shouldn't be featuring that. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 21:31, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::At some point, we ought to feature something from the Lappynapping saga. Ideally, I'd love to feature the entire saga for a week, but we don't exactly have a summary article for the whole thing, and I'm not sure we should. One possibility could be just featuring [[cliffhangers]] one week and [[retirement]] the next (pros, it allows us to cover the saga; cons, it takes up two weeks). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:42, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I like the idea, but I also agree with the problems. The closest we have to a summary article is on [[Lappy 486#Lappy-napping|the Lappy's page]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::::How bout a Valentines/Valentimes day toon. [[Teen Girl Squad 12|TGS 12]]. [[User:Justin Master of Nature|Justin Master of Nature]] 21:19, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Since Valentimes is so rarely done in H*R, featuring [[Teen Girl Squad 12]] would be a good thing for this week. Hopefully, TBC will add more "holiday specials" in the future. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 23:36, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::Totally! Great Idea, I think TGS is important to Vanentines day with Cheerleader's boy obsession. Dynamite =)
:::::::Sure, we can wait on the Lappynapping saga. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Feature article for 2008, week 8]] (Feb 18-24)===
How bout [[Where's An Egg?]]. [[User:Aaron Master of Life|Aaron Master of Life]] 20:35, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:I dunno, I was thinking [[retirement]]. {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:13, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
::Umm...No. Well, maybe ...{drum roll} [[Listerine]]. {{User:Justin Master of Nature/sig}} 21:19, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
:::[[retirement]] might be good, but [[Listerine]] is way to short and let's not forget that it is a [[HRW:OA]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 22:31, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
::I think that [[nightlife]] may be good. It features a lot of important remarks and such in it. Besides, Listerine is too short, anyways. Dynamite 0.o
:::Nightlife is probably too new for an FA. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
:::By the time this article is featured, it wont be. DYNAMITE :{

==General Discussion==
===Daily Featured Blocks (On Occasion)===
In order to make daily featured articles for one week, create pages like:

*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 1]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 2]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 3]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 4]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 5]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 6]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 0]]</nowiki> (redirect day 7 to this)

HRWiki:Featured Article Selection

2007-12-27T00:04:30Z

Dynamite: /* HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 1 (Dec 31-Jan 6) */

{{shortcut|FAS||[[FAS]]}}
{| style="background:#CFC; border: 1px dashed #090"
|-
| style="padding:10px" | '''Checklist for new Featured Article:'''
*Make sure the article is proof-read up to a high standard.
*At 0000 [[Wikipedia:Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]] Monday, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=purge purge the main page cache].
*[[HRWiki:Protected page|Protect]] and add {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} to the new image; Unprotect and remove {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} from old image.
*Semi-protect the live FA write-up; Unprotect the old FA write-up.
*Add {{[[Template:featuredarticle|featuredarticle]]}} to FA's talk page.
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured article nominations]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_article_nominations&action=history history].
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured articles]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_articles&action=history history].
|} 
==Discussion Archives==
<center>[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/General Discussion|Other Discussion]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 26-29|2005, Weeks 26-29]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 30-39|2005, Weeks 30-39]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 40-49|2005, Weeks 40-52]]
[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 1-10|2006, Weeks 1-10]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 11-20|2006, Weeks 11-20]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 21-30|2006, Weeks 21-30]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 31-40|2006, Weeks 31-40]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 41-52|2006, Weeks 41-52]]
[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 1-10|2007, Weeks 1-10]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 11-20|2007, Weeks 11-20]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 21-30|2007, Weeks 21-30]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 31-40|2007, Weeks 31-40]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 41-52|2007, Weeks 41-52]]</center>

==Weeklies==
===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2007, week 51]] (Dec 17-23)===
How about [[retirement]]? It's the longest [[Strong Bad Email|sbemail]], and I really like that email. {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:49, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:Nah. I'd like to see something Christmasy, or Decemberweenish. Either [[what I want]] or [[The Decemberween Tree]] would be fine. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 21:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::[[The Decemberween Tree]]'s prose intro is a bit short for a featured article. [[what I want]] would probably work, though. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:03, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I like the idea of doing [[what I want]] too.{{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
::::There aren't that many pre-Decemberween shorts of any substance (though [[Decemberween In July]] might make a good alternate....). I have no problem with [[what I want]] for this week. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:00, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2007, week 52]] (Dec 24-30)===
A Decemberween toon. How about [[A Decemberween Pageant]]? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 21:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:Just to list all the major D'ween toons: [[A Holiday Greeting]] (more or less Decemberween), [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], [[A Decemberween Pageant]] and [[Decemberween Short Shorts]] (I've excluded [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] because we featured that last year). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:41, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::Naw. Like I said before, we should do less daily articles. I think [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] would be a good enough article, as it introduces the word [[Decemberween]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 10:00, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I agree, if we keep on having daily articles for holidays, we are going to run out rather quickly, then...bad stuff happens. I think [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] is a good article to be featured on this day...week.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 11:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Actually, I just realized that you weren't saying that we should do a week of different toons. I should read these posts more carefully. But still, I think we should feature [[The Best Decemberween Ever]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 11:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::I'll just '''support''' having The Best D'ween Ever as the featured for this week... {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 14:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::Yes, just to clarify: I wasn't suggesting dailies, just setting our what our options are. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:11, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, and Best D'ween ever sounds fine to me. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:12, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Sounds good! {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:32, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Yes, one of the best Decemberween cartoons... ever... I agree! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:22, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::I Love it! This is an Important article and deseves The title. Dynamite ^oo^

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 1]] (Dec 31-Jan 6)===
Note: Whatever MediaWiki decides to call December 31 (week 53?), it will be redirected here. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:15, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

To start of the year, how about a Peasant's Quest thing. Like [[Rather Dashing]], [[Peasantry]], [[The Three Keepers of Trogdor]] or [[The Trog-Cave]]? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 19:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
:How about one of the secondary characters? Both [[Nebulon]] and [[The Stick]] would be worthy for a featured article. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:47, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
::I hate you, The Stick. I mean, yeah, let's do The Stick. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 22:12, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
:::The Stick's prose intro is rather short for a weeklong FA, though. Does anyone think they could expand it? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:13, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
::::[[Nebulon]] is a more thorough article, at any rate. I think it would make a better FA. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:54, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:::We've done Nebulon and The Stick, already. Why not [[History According to Strong Bad]]? It seems like a good article to me.
::::No, we haven't featured those already. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:56, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::::You should check again. anyways, Why not try a sbemail, say, [[unnatural]]? Dynamite =]

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 2]] (Jan 7-13)===
A Short Perhaps? Good shorts: [[One Two, One Two]], [[Drive-Thru]], [[Looking at a Thing In A Bag]]? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 19:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
: I'll throw in [[Strongest Man In The World]] as another good short for this week. Though [[Looking at a Thing In A Bag]] would be an excellent idea. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:48, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm going with the thing in a bag. {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 13:45, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:How about [[dragon]] because January 13 was when dragon was first released. Though hardly a man is still alive that remembers that fateful day and year. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 20:40, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'd go with Looking at a Thing In A Bag or dragon. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:21, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Let's give Troggie a happy 5th Trogday feature: [[dragon]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Shouldnt we do happy trogday since it is trogday, and to dragon next week? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 16:00, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::One Trogdor birthday feature should be enough for one year, and [[dragon]], as the email that started it all, seems like the better choice. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:04, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
::::I Agree, but I like Drive-Thru. Maybe for next week 'cuz dragon IS a good pick Dynamite ;)

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 3]] (Jan 14-20)===
I'm thinking we should do a good article nobody knows about. [['d]], maybe? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 02:31, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:I think [['d]] is a well-known article actually... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
::We haven't done something real world in a while. [[TMBG Concert - 25 Sep 2004]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
::: Wait, the late night jengajam interview! great interview! {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 02:32, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Um, I suppose I could have it finished by then....{{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 03:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think the TBMG concert would probably be fine, and we could let Wbwolf take his time shanking our jengaship and feature it later. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:08, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::I'm gonna say [[mascot]]. An important email with a good background reference.
::::::I don't think we need to feature any more sbemails than we already are. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:59, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 4]] (Jan 21-27)===
How about a daily featured article week with [[Compy 386]] emails. Just some classics: [[comic]], [[japanese cartoon]], [[dragon]], [[crazy cartoon]], [[personal favorites]], [[monument]], [[video games]], [[your friends]], [[invisibility]], [[time capsule]], [[monster truck]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 20:35, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:I think most Compy emails are big enough to be featured for a whole week. Plus, I don't really like having daily articles. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 12:13, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::I think this is a good idea to do at some point (I ''don't'' think more than a few compy emails are worth a whole week), but I think it's still too soon after our most recent set of dailies. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:51, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:::We featured [[Cheerleader]] last year and have never gotten around to featuring any other TGS characters. How about [[So and So]]? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:56, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::::So and So would make a great FA. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 06:12, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Agreed. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::I think so, too. Dynamite ^o.o^
:::::::I just saw it on the featured articles already. I think we haven't but I'm curious why everyone says that articles we have featured we have not like the stick. Dynamite :|

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 5]] (Jan 28-Feb 3)===
Another grammar thing! I'd personally like to see '''[[Nondescript Nouns]]''', but it's prose is too short. Perhaps we could expand it? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:I've always thought Nondescript Nouns's scope was a bit ambiguous, and I don't really think it's our finest work. Perhaps another running gag, such as [[Crapfully Yours]]? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:55, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
We've done [[crapfully yours]]. If we wanna do a running gag, how 'bout [[blatant lies]]?

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 6]] (Feb 4-10)===
It's time Minor Characters got their time to shine. Any minor characters you can think of? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:How minor is [[Rumble Red]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:19, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::I don't think we need to feature a minor character. We're talking about featuring one in early January, along with a TGS character a bit later in the month. I'm thinking we might try featuring an item, since we do that somewhat rarely. Perhaps the [[No Loafing Sign]]? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:43, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::We haven't featured the [[No Loafing Sign]] yet? Yeah, let's do that. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 16:34, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
::::It's hard to believe we haven't done that one yet. I vote yes! o.0

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 7]] (Feb 11-17)===
[[Who Said What]]. [[User:60.230.37.94|60.230.37.94]] 06:49, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:We really shouldn't be featuring that. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 21:31, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::At some point, we ought to feature something from the Lappynapping saga. Ideally, I'd love to feature the entire saga for a week, but we don't exactly have a summary article for the whole thing, and I'm not sure we should. One possibility could be just featuring [[cliffhangers]] one week and [[retirement]] the next (pros, it allows us to cover the saga; cons, it takes up two weeks). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:42, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I like the idea, but I also agree with the problems. The closest we have to a summary article is on [[Lappy 486#Lappy-napping|the Lappy's page]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::::How bout a Valentines/Valentimes day toon. [[Teen Girl Squad 12|TGS 12]]. [[User:Justin Master of Nature|Justin Master of Nature]] 21:19, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Since Valentimes is so rarely done in H*R, featuring [[Teen Girl Squad 12]] would be a good thing for this week. Hopefully, TBC will add more "holiday specials" in the future. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 23:36, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::Totally! Great Idea, I think TGS is important to Vanentines day with Cheerleader's boy obsession. Dynamite =)
:::::::Sure, we can wait on the Lappynapping saga. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Feature article for 2008, week 8]] (Feb 18-24)===
How bout [[Where's An Egg?]]. [[User:Aaron Master of Life|Aaron Master of Life]] 20:35, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:I dunno, I was thinking [[retirement]]. {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:13, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
::Umm...No. Well, maybe ...{drum roll} [[Listerine]]. {{User:Justin Master of Nature/sig}} 21:19, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
:::[[retirement]] might be good, but [[Listerine]] is way to short and let's not forget that it is a [[HRW:OA]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 22:31, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
::I think that [[nightlife]] may be good. It features a lot of important remarks and such in it. Besides, Listerine is too short, anyways. Dynamite 0.o
:::Nightlife is probably too new for an FA. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

==General Discussion==
===Daily Featured Blocks (On Occasion)===
In order to make daily featured articles for one week, create pages like:

*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 1]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 2]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 3]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 4]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 5]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 6]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 0]]</nowiki> (redirect day 7 to this)

HRWiki:Featured Article Selection

2007-12-27T00:03:29Z

Dynamite: /* HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 1 (Dec 31-Jan 6) */

{{shortcut|FAS||[[FAS]]}}
{| style="background:#CFC; border: 1px dashed #090"
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| style="padding:10px" | '''Checklist for new Featured Article:'''
*Make sure the article is proof-read up to a high standard.
*At 0000 [[Wikipedia:Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]] Monday, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=purge purge the main page cache].
*[[HRWiki:Protected page|Protect]] and add {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} to the new image; Unprotect and remove {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} from old image.
*Semi-protect the live FA write-up; Unprotect the old FA write-up.
*Add {{[[Template:featuredarticle|featuredarticle]]}} to FA's talk page.
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured article nominations]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_article_nominations&action=history history].
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured articles]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_articles&action=history history].
|} 
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==Weeklies==
===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2007, week 51]] (Dec 17-23)===
How about [[retirement]]? It's the longest [[Strong Bad Email|sbemail]], and I really like that email. {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:49, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:Nah. I'd like to see something Christmasy, or Decemberweenish. Either [[what I want]] or [[The Decemberween Tree]] would be fine. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 21:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::[[The Decemberween Tree]]'s prose intro is a bit short for a featured article. [[what I want]] would probably work, though. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:03, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I like the idea of doing [[what I want]] too.{{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
::::There aren't that many pre-Decemberween shorts of any substance (though [[Decemberween In July]] might make a good alternate....). I have no problem with [[what I want]] for this week. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:00, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2007, week 52]] (Dec 24-30)===
A Decemberween toon. How about [[A Decemberween Pageant]]? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 21:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:Just to list all the major D'ween toons: [[A Holiday Greeting]] (more or less Decemberween), [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], [[A Decemberween Pageant]] and [[Decemberween Short Shorts]] (I've excluded [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] because we featured that last year). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:41, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::Naw. Like I said before, we should do less daily articles. I think [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] would be a good enough article, as it introduces the word [[Decemberween]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 10:00, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I agree, if we keep on having daily articles for holidays, we are going to run out rather quickly, then...bad stuff happens. I think [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] is a good article to be featured on this day...week.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 11:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Actually, I just realized that you weren't saying that we should do a week of different toons. I should read these posts more carefully. But still, I think we should feature [[The Best Decemberween Ever]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 11:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::I'll just '''support''' having The Best D'ween Ever as the featured for this week... {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 14:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::Yes, just to clarify: I wasn't suggesting dailies, just setting our what our options are. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:11, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, and Best D'ween ever sounds fine to me. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:12, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Sounds good! {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:32, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Yes, one of the best Decemberween cartoons... ever... I agree! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:22, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::I Love it! This is an Important article and deseves The title. Dynamite ^oo^

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 1]] (Dec 31-Jan 6)===
Note: Whatever MediaWiki decides to call December 31 (week 53?), it will be redirected here. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:15, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

To start of the year, how about a Peasant's Quest thing. Like [[Rather Dashing]], [[Peasantry]], [[The Three Keepers of Trogdor]] or [[The Trog-Cave]]? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 19:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
:How about one of the secondary characters? Both [[Nebulon]] and [[The Stick]] would be worthy for a featured article. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:47, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
::I hate you, The Stick. I mean, yeah, let's do The Stick. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 22:12, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
:::The Stick's prose intro is rather short for a weeklong FA, though. Does anyone think they could expand it? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:13, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
::::[[Nebulon]] is a more thorough article, at any rate. I think it would make a better FA. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:54, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:::We've done Nebulon and The Stick, already. Why not [[History According to Strong Bad]]? It seems like a good article to me.
::::No, we haven't featured those already. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:56, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::::You should check again. anyways, Whynot try a sbemail, say, [[unnatural]]? Dynamite =]

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 2]] (Jan 7-13)===
A Short Perhaps? Good shorts: [[One Two, One Two]], [[Drive-Thru]], [[Looking at a Thing In A Bag]]? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 19:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
: I'll throw in [[Strongest Man In The World]] as another good short for this week. Though [[Looking at a Thing In A Bag]] would be an excellent idea. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:48, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm going with the thing in a bag. {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 13:45, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:How about [[dragon]] because January 13 was when dragon was first released. Though hardly a man is still alive that remembers that fateful day and year. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 20:40, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'd go with Looking at a Thing In A Bag or dragon. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:21, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Let's give Troggie a happy 5th Trogday feature: [[dragon]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Shouldnt we do happy trogday since it is trogday, and to dragon next week? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 16:00, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::One Trogdor birthday feature should be enough for one year, and [[dragon]], as the email that started it all, seems like the better choice. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:04, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
::::I Agree, but I like Drive-Thru. Maybe for next week 'cuz dragon IS a good pick Dynamite ;)

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 3]] (Jan 14-20)===
I'm thinking we should do a good article nobody knows about. [['d]], maybe? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 02:31, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:I think [['d]] is a well-known article actually... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
::We haven't done something real world in a while. [[TMBG Concert - 25 Sep 2004]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
::: Wait, the late night jengajam interview! great interview! {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 02:32, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Um, I suppose I could have it finished by then....{{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 03:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think the TBMG concert would probably be fine, and we could let Wbwolf take his time shanking our jengaship and feature it later. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:08, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::I'm gonna say [[mascot]]. An important email with a good background reference.
::::::I don't think we need to feature any more sbemails than we already are. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:59, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 4]] (Jan 21-27)===
How about a daily featured article week with [[Compy 386]] emails. Just some classics: [[comic]], [[japanese cartoon]], [[dragon]], [[crazy cartoon]], [[personal favorites]], [[monument]], [[video games]], [[your friends]], [[invisibility]], [[time capsule]], [[monster truck]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 20:35, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:I think most Compy emails are big enough to be featured for a whole week. Plus, I don't really like having daily articles. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 12:13, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::I think this is a good idea to do at some point (I ''don't'' think more than a few compy emails are worth a whole week), but I think it's still too soon after our most recent set of dailies. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:51, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:::We featured [[Cheerleader]] last year and have never gotten around to featuring any other TGS characters. How about [[So and So]]? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:56, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::::So and So would make a great FA. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 06:12, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Agreed. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::I think so, too. Dynamite ^o.o^
:::::::I just saw it on the featured articles already. I think we haven't but I'm curious why everyone says that articles we have featured we have not like the stick. Dynamite :|

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 5]] (Jan 28-Feb 3)===
Another grammar thing! I'd personally like to see '''[[Nondescript Nouns]]''', but it's prose is too short. Perhaps we could expand it? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:I've always thought Nondescript Nouns's scope was a bit ambiguous, and I don't really think it's our finest work. Perhaps another running gag, such as [[Crapfully Yours]]? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:55, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
We've done [[crapfully yours]]. If we wanna do a running gag, how 'bout [[blatant lies]]?

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 6]] (Feb 4-10)===
It's time Minor Characters got their time to shine. Any minor characters you can think of? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:How minor is [[Rumble Red]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:19, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::I don't think we need to feature a minor character. We're talking about featuring one in early January, along with a TGS character a bit later in the month. I'm thinking we might try featuring an item, since we do that somewhat rarely. Perhaps the [[No Loafing Sign]]? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:43, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::We haven't featured the [[No Loafing Sign]] yet? Yeah, let's do that. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 16:34, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
::::It's hard to believe we haven't done that one yet. I vote yes! o.0

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 7]] (Feb 11-17)===
[[Who Said What]]. [[User:60.230.37.94|60.230.37.94]] 06:49, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:We really shouldn't be featuring that. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 21:31, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::At some point, we ought to feature something from the Lappynapping saga. Ideally, I'd love to feature the entire saga for a week, but we don't exactly have a summary article for the whole thing, and I'm not sure we should. One possibility could be just featuring [[cliffhangers]] one week and [[retirement]] the next (pros, it allows us to cover the saga; cons, it takes up two weeks). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:42, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I like the idea, but I also agree with the problems. The closest we have to a summary article is on [[Lappy 486#Lappy-napping|the Lappy's page]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::::How bout a Valentines/Valentimes day toon. [[Teen Girl Squad 12|TGS 12]]. [[User:Justin Master of Nature|Justin Master of Nature]] 21:19, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Since Valentimes is so rarely done in H*R, featuring [[Teen Girl Squad 12]] would be a good thing for this week. Hopefully, TBC will add more "holiday specials" in the future. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 23:36, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::Totally! Great Idea, I think TGS is important to Vanentines day with Cheerleader's boy obsession. Dynamite =)
:::::::Sure, we can wait on the Lappynapping saga. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Feature article for 2008, week 8]] (Feb 18-24)===
How bout [[Where's An Egg?]]. [[User:Aaron Master of Life|Aaron Master of Life]] 20:35, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:I dunno, I was thinking [[retirement]]. {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:13, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
::Umm...No. Well, maybe ...{drum roll} [[Listerine]]. {{User:Justin Master of Nature/sig}} 21:19, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
:::[[retirement]] might be good, but [[Listerine]] is way to short and let's not forget that it is a [[HRW:OA]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 22:31, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
::I think that [[nightlife]] may be good. It features a lot of important remarks and such in it. Besides, Listerine is too short, anyways. Dynamite 0.o
:::Nightlife is probably too new for an FA. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

==General Discussion==
===Daily Featured Blocks (On Occasion)===
In order to make daily featured articles for one week, create pages like:

*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 1]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 2]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 3]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 4]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 5]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 6]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 0]]</nowiki> (redirect day 7 to this)

HRWiki:Featured Article Selection

2007-12-27T00:02:45Z

Dynamite: /* HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 5 (Jan 28-Feb 3) */

{{shortcut|FAS||[[FAS]]}}
{| style="background:#CFC; border: 1px dashed #090"
|-
| style="padding:10px" | '''Checklist for new Featured Article:'''
*Make sure the article is proof-read up to a high standard.
*At 0000 [[Wikipedia:Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]] Monday, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=purge purge the main page cache].
*[[HRWiki:Protected page|Protect]] and add {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} to the new image; Unprotect and remove {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} from old image.
*Semi-protect the live FA write-up; Unprotect the old FA write-up.
*Add {{[[Template:featuredarticle|featuredarticle]]}} to FA's talk page.
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured article nominations]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_article_nominations&action=history history].
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured articles]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_articles&action=history history].
|} 
==Discussion Archives==
<center>[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/General Discussion|Other Discussion]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 26-29|2005, Weeks 26-29]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 30-39|2005, Weeks 30-39]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 40-49|2005, Weeks 40-52]]
[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 1-10|2006, Weeks 1-10]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 11-20|2006, Weeks 11-20]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 21-30|2006, Weeks 21-30]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 31-40|2006, Weeks 31-40]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 41-52|2006, Weeks 41-52]]
[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 1-10|2007, Weeks 1-10]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 11-20|2007, Weeks 11-20]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 21-30|2007, Weeks 21-30]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 31-40|2007, Weeks 31-40]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 41-52|2007, Weeks 41-52]]</center>

==Weeklies==
===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2007, week 51]] (Dec 17-23)===
How about [[retirement]]? It's the longest [[Strong Bad Email|sbemail]], and I really like that email. {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:49, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:Nah. I'd like to see something Christmasy, or Decemberweenish. Either [[what I want]] or [[The Decemberween Tree]] would be fine. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 21:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::[[The Decemberween Tree]]'s prose intro is a bit short for a featured article. [[what I want]] would probably work, though. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:03, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I like the idea of doing [[what I want]] too.{{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
::::There aren't that many pre-Decemberween shorts of any substance (though [[Decemberween In July]] might make a good alternate....). I have no problem with [[what I want]] for this week. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:00, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2007, week 52]] (Dec 24-30)===
A Decemberween toon. How about [[A Decemberween Pageant]]? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 21:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:Just to list all the major D'ween toons: [[A Holiday Greeting]] (more or less Decemberween), [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], [[A Decemberween Pageant]] and [[Decemberween Short Shorts]] (I've excluded [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] because we featured that last year). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:41, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::Naw. Like I said before, we should do less daily articles. I think [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] would be a good enough article, as it introduces the word [[Decemberween]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 10:00, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I agree, if we keep on having daily articles for holidays, we are going to run out rather quickly, then...bad stuff happens. I think [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] is a good article to be featured on this day...week.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 11:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Actually, I just realized that you weren't saying that we should do a week of different toons. I should read these posts more carefully. But still, I think we should feature [[The Best Decemberween Ever]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 11:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::I'll just '''support''' having The Best D'ween Ever as the featured for this week... {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 14:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::Yes, just to clarify: I wasn't suggesting dailies, just setting our what our options are. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:11, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, and Best D'ween ever sounds fine to me. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:12, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Sounds good! {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:32, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Yes, one of the best Decemberween cartoons... ever... I agree! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:22, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::I Love it! This is an Important article and deseves The title. Dynamite ^oo^

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 1]] (Dec 31-Jan 6)===
Note: Whatever MediaWiki decides to call December 31 (week 53?), it will be redirected here. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:15, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

To start of the year, how about a Peasant's Quest thing. Like [[Rather Dashing]], [[Peasantry]], [[The Three Keepers of Trogdor]] or [[The Trog-Cave]]? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 19:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
:How about one of the secondary characters? Both [[Nebulon]] and [[The Stick]] would be worthy for a featured article. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:47, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
::I hate you, The Stick. I mean, yeah, let's do The Stick. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 22:12, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
:::The Stick's prose intro is rather short for a weeklong FA, though. Does anyone think they could expand it? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:13, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
::::[[Nebulon]] is a more thorough article, at any rate. I think it would make a better FA. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:54, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:::We've done Nebulon and The Stick, already. Why not [[History According to Strong Bad]]? It seems like a good article to me.
::::No, we haven't featured those already. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:56, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::::YOU should check again. anyways, WHY not try a sbemail, say, [[unnatural]]?
:::::Already did check, thanks, and those articles haven't been featured. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:42, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 2]] (Jan 7-13)===
A Short Perhaps? Good shorts: [[One Two, One Two]], [[Drive-Thru]], [[Looking at a Thing In A Bag]]? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 19:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
: I'll throw in [[Strongest Man In The World]] as another good short for this week. Though [[Looking at a Thing In A Bag]] would be an excellent idea. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:48, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm going with the thing in a bag. {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 13:45, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:How about [[dragon]] because January 13 was when dragon was first released. Though hardly a man is still alive that remembers that fateful day and year. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 20:40, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'd go with Looking at a Thing In A Bag or dragon. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:21, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Let's give Troggie a happy 5th Trogday feature: [[dragon]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Shouldnt we do happy trogday since it is trogday, and to dragon next week? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 16:00, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::One Trogdor birthday feature should be enough for one year, and [[dragon]], as the email that started it all, seems like the better choice. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:04, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
::::I Agree, but I like Drive-Thru. Maybe for next week 'cuz dragon IS a good pick Dynamite ;)

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 3]] (Jan 14-20)===
I'm thinking we should do a good article nobody knows about. [['d]], maybe? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 02:31, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:I think [['d]] is a well-known article actually... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
::We haven't done something real world in a while. [[TMBG Concert - 25 Sep 2004]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
::: Wait, the late night jengajam interview! great interview! {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 02:32, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Um, I suppose I could have it finished by then....{{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 03:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think the TBMG concert would probably be fine, and we could let Wbwolf take his time shanking our jengaship and feature it later. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:08, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::I'm gonna say [[mascot]]. An important email with a good background reference.
::::::I don't think we need to feature any more sbemails than we already are. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:59, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 4]] (Jan 21-27)===
How about a daily featured article week with [[Compy 386]] emails. Just some classics: [[comic]], [[japanese cartoon]], [[dragon]], [[crazy cartoon]], [[personal favorites]], [[monument]], [[video games]], [[your friends]], [[invisibility]], [[time capsule]], [[monster truck]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 20:35, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:I think most Compy emails are big enough to be featured for a whole week. Plus, I don't really like having daily articles. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 12:13, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::I think this is a good idea to do at some point (I ''don't'' think more than a few compy emails are worth a whole week), but I think it's still too soon after our most recent set of dailies. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:51, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:::We featured [[Cheerleader]] last year and have never gotten around to featuring any other TGS characters. How about [[So and So]]? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:56, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::::So and So would make a great FA. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 06:12, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Agreed. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::I think so, too. Dynamite ^o.o^
:::::::I just saw it on the featured articles already. I think we haven't but I'm curious why everyone says that articles we have featured we have not like the stick. Dynamite :|

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 5]] (Jan 28-Feb 3)===
Another grammar thing! I'd personally like to see '''[[Nondescript Nouns]]''', but it's prose is too short. Perhaps we could expand it? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:I've always thought Nondescript Nouns's scope was a bit ambiguous, and I don't really think it's our finest work. Perhaps another running gag, such as [[Crapfully Yours]]? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:55, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
We've done [[crapfully yours]]. If we wanna do a running gag, how 'bout [[blatant lies]]?

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 6]] (Feb 4-10)===
It's time Minor Characters got their time to shine. Any minor characters you can think of? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:How minor is [[Rumble Red]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:19, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::I don't think we need to feature a minor character. We're talking about featuring one in early January, along with a TGS character a bit later in the month. I'm thinking we might try featuring an item, since we do that somewhat rarely. Perhaps the [[No Loafing Sign]]? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:43, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::We haven't featured the [[No Loafing Sign]] yet? Yeah, let's do that. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 16:34, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
::::It's hard to believe we haven't done that one yet. I vote yes! o.0

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 7]] (Feb 11-17)===
[[Who Said What]]. [[User:60.230.37.94|60.230.37.94]] 06:49, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:We really shouldn't be featuring that. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 21:31, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::At some point, we ought to feature something from the Lappynapping saga. Ideally, I'd love to feature the entire saga for a week, but we don't exactly have a summary article for the whole thing, and I'm not sure we should. One possibility could be just featuring [[cliffhangers]] one week and [[retirement]] the next (pros, it allows us to cover the saga; cons, it takes up two weeks). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:42, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I like the idea, but I also agree with the problems. The closest we have to a summary article is on [[Lappy 486#Lappy-napping|the Lappy's page]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::::How bout a Valentines/Valentimes day toon. [[Teen Girl Squad 12|TGS 12]]. [[User:Justin Master of Nature|Justin Master of Nature]] 21:19, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Since Valentimes is so rarely done in H*R, featuring [[Teen Girl Squad 12]] would be a good thing for this week. Hopefully, TBC will add more "holiday specials" in the future. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 23:36, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::Totally! Great Idea, I think TGS is important to Vanentines day with Cheerleader's boy obsession. Dynamite =)
:::::::Sure, we can wait on the Lappynapping saga. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Feature article for 2008, week 8]] (Feb 18-24)===
How bout [[Where's An Egg?]]. [[User:Aaron Master of Life|Aaron Master of Life]] 20:35, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:I dunno, I was thinking [[retirement]]. {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:13, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
::Umm...No. Well, maybe ...{drum roll} [[Listerine]]. {{User:Justin Master of Nature/sig}} 21:19, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
:::[[retirement]] might be good, but [[Listerine]] is way to short and let's not forget that it is a [[HRW:OA]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 22:31, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
::I think that [[nightlife]] may be good. It features a lot of important remarks and such in it. Besides, Listerine is too short, anyways. Dynamite 0.o
:::Nightlife is probably too new for an FA. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

==General Discussion==
===Daily Featured Blocks (On Occasion)===
In order to make daily featured articles for one week, create pages like:

*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 1]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 2]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 3]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 4]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 5]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 6]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 0]]</nowiki> (redirect day 7 to this)

HRWiki:Featured Article Selection

2007-12-27T00:00:28Z

Dynamite: /* HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 4 (Jan 21-27) */

{{shortcut|FAS||[[FAS]]}}
{| style="background:#CFC; border: 1px dashed #090"
|-
| style="padding:10px" | '''Checklist for new Featured Article:'''
*Make sure the article is proof-read up to a high standard.
*At 0000 [[Wikipedia:Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]] Monday, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=purge purge the main page cache].
*[[HRWiki:Protected page|Protect]] and add {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} to the new image; Unprotect and remove {{[[Template:mprotected|mprotected]]}} from old image.
*Semi-protect the live FA write-up; Unprotect the old FA write-up.
*Add {{[[Template:featuredarticle|featuredarticle]]}} to FA's talk page.
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured article nominations]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_article_nominations&action=history history].
*Update [[HRWiki:Featured articles]] with descriptive edit summary — see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Featured_articles&action=history history].
|} 
==Discussion Archives==
<center>[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/General Discussion|Other Discussion]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 26-29|2005, Weeks 26-29]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 30-39|2005, Weeks 30-39]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2005 Weeks 40-49|2005, Weeks 40-52]]
[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 1-10|2006, Weeks 1-10]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 11-20|2006, Weeks 11-20]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 21-30|2006, Weeks 21-30]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 31-40|2006, Weeks 31-40]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2006 Weeks 41-52|2006, Weeks 41-52]]
[[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 1-10|2007, Weeks 1-10]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 11-20|2007, Weeks 11-20]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 21-30|2007, Weeks 21-30]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 31-40|2007, Weeks 31-40]] | [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection/Discussion Archive 2007 Weeks 41-52|2007, Weeks 41-52]]</center>

==Weeklies==
===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2007, week 51]] (Dec 17-23)===
How about [[retirement]]? It's the longest [[Strong Bad Email|sbemail]], and I really like that email. {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:49, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:Nah. I'd like to see something Christmasy, or Decemberweenish. Either [[what I want]] or [[The Decemberween Tree]] would be fine. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 21:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::[[The Decemberween Tree]]'s prose intro is a bit short for a featured article. [[what I want]] would probably work, though. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:03, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I like the idea of doing [[what I want]] too.{{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
::::There aren't that many pre-Decemberween shorts of any substance (though [[Decemberween In July]] might make a good alternate....). I have no problem with [[what I want]] for this week. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:00, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2007, week 52]] (Dec 24-30)===
A Decemberween toon. How about [[A Decemberween Pageant]]? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 21:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:Just to list all the major D'ween toons: [[A Holiday Greeting]] (more or less Decemberween), [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], [[A Decemberween Pageant]] and [[Decemberween Short Shorts]] (I've excluded [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] because we featured that last year). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:41, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::Naw. Like I said before, we should do less daily articles. I think [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] would be a good enough article, as it introduces the word [[Decemberween]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 10:00, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I agree, if we keep on having daily articles for holidays, we are going to run out rather quickly, then...bad stuff happens. I think [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] is a good article to be featured on this day...week.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 11:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Actually, I just realized that you weren't saying that we should do a week of different toons. I should read these posts more carefully. But still, I think we should feature [[The Best Decemberween Ever]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 11:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::I'll just '''support''' having The Best D'ween Ever as the featured for this week... {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 14:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::Yes, just to clarify: I wasn't suggesting dailies, just setting our what our options are. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:11, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, and Best D'ween ever sounds fine to me. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:12, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Sounds good! {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:32, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Yes, one of the best Decemberween cartoons... ever... I agree! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:22, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::I Love it! This is an Important article and deseves The title. Dynamite ^oo^

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 1]] (Dec 31-Jan 6)===
Note: Whatever MediaWiki decides to call December 31 (week 53?), it will be redirected here. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:15, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

To start of the year, how about a Peasant's Quest thing. Like [[Rather Dashing]], [[Peasantry]], [[The Three Keepers of Trogdor]] or [[The Trog-Cave]]? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 19:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
:How about one of the secondary characters? Both [[Nebulon]] and [[The Stick]] would be worthy for a featured article. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:47, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
::I hate you, The Stick. I mean, yeah, let's do The Stick. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 22:12, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
:::The Stick's prose intro is rather short for a weeklong FA, though. Does anyone think they could expand it? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:13, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
::::[[Nebulon]] is a more thorough article, at any rate. I think it would make a better FA. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:54, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:::We've done Nebulon and The Stick, already. Why not [[unnatural]]? It seems like a good article to me.

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 2]] (Jan 7-13)===
A Short Perhaps? Good shorts: [[One Two, One Two]], [[Drive-Thru]], [[Looking at a Thing In A Bag]]? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 19:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
: I'll throw in [[Strongest Man In The World]] as another good short for this week. Though [[Looking at a Thing In A Bag]] would be an excellent idea. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:48, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm going with the thing in a bag. {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 13:45, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:How about [[dragon]] because January 13 was when dragon was first released. Though hardly a man is still alive that remembers that fateful day and year. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 20:40, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'd go with Looking at a Thing In A Bag or dragon. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:21, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Let's give Troggie a happy 5th Trogday feature: [[dragon]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Shouldnt we do happy trogday since it is trogday, and to dragon next week? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 16:00, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::One Trogdor birthday feature should be enough for one year, and [[dragon]], as the email that started it all, seems like the better choice. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:04, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
::::I Agree, but I like Drive-Thru. Maybe for next week 'cuz dragon IS a good pick Dynamite ;)

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 3]] (Jan 14-20)===
I'm thinking we should do a good article nobody knows about. [['d]], maybe? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 02:31, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:I think [['d]] is a well-known article actually... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
::We haven't done something real world in a while. [[TMBG Concert - 25 Sep 2004]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
::: Wait, the late night jengajam interview! great interview! {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 02:32, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Um, I suppose I could have it finished by then....{{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 03:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think the TBMG concert would probably be fine, and we could let Wbwolf take his time shanking our jengaship and feature it later. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:08, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::I'm gonna say [[mascot]]. An important email with a good background reference.
::::::I don't think we need to feature any more sbemails than we already are. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:59, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 4]] (Jan 21-27)===
How about a daily featured article week with [[Compy 386]] emails. Just some classics: [[comic]], [[japanese cartoon]], [[dragon]], [[crazy cartoon]], [[personal favorites]], [[monument]], [[video games]], [[your friends]], [[invisibility]], [[time capsule]], [[monster truck]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 20:35, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:I think most Compy emails are big enough to be featured for a whole week. Plus, I don't really like having daily articles. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 12:13, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::I think this is a good idea to do at some point (I ''don't'' think more than a few compy emails are worth a whole week), but I think it's still too soon after our most recent set of dailies. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:51, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:::We featured [[Cheerleader]] last year and have never gotten around to featuring any other TGS characters. How about [[So and So]]? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 16:56, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::::So and So would make a great FA. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 06:12, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Agreed. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::I think so, too. Dynamite ^o.o^
:::::::I just saw it on the featured articles already. I think we haven't but I'm curious why everyone says that articles we have featured we have not like the stick. Dynamite :|

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 5]] (Jan 28-Feb 3)===
Another grammar thing! I'd personally like to see '''[[Nondescript Nouns]]''', but it's prose is too short. Perhaps we could expand it? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:I've always thought Nondescript Nouns's scope was a bit ambiguous, and I don't really think it's our finest work. Perhaps another running gag, such as [[Crapfully Yours]]? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:55, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
We've done [[crapfully yours]]. If we wanna do a running gag, how 'bout [[blatant lies?]]
:No, we have not done Crapfully Yours already. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:57, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 6]] (Feb 4-10)===
It's time Minor Characters got their time to shine. Any minor characters you can think of? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 18:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:How minor is [[Rumble Red]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 03:19, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::I don't think we need to feature a minor character. We're talking about featuring one in early January, along with a TGS character a bit later in the month. I'm thinking we might try featuring an item, since we do that somewhat rarely. Perhaps the [[No Loafing Sign]]? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:43, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::We haven't featured the [[No Loafing Sign]] yet? Yeah, let's do that. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 16:34, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
::::It's hard to believe we haven't done that one yet. I vote yes! o.0

===[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2008, week 7]] (Feb 11-17)===
[[Who Said What]]. [[User:60.230.37.94|60.230.37.94]] 06:49, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:We really shouldn't be featuring that. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 21:31, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::At some point, we ought to feature something from the Lappynapping saga. Ideally, I'd love to feature the entire saga for a week, but we don't exactly have a summary article for the whole thing, and I'm not sure we should. One possibility could be just featuring [[cliffhangers]] one week and [[retirement]] the next (pros, it allows us to cover the saga; cons, it takes up two weeks). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:42, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I like the idea, but I also agree with the problems. The closest we have to a summary article is on [[Lappy 486#Lappy-napping|the Lappy's page]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::::How bout a Valentines/Valentimes day toon. [[Teen Girl Squad 12|TGS 12]]. [[User:Justin Master of Nature|Justin Master of Nature]] 21:19, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Since Valentimes is so rarely done in H*R, featuring [[Teen Girl Squad 12]] would be a good thing for this week. Hopefully, TBC will add more "holiday specials" in the future. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 23:36, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::Totally! Great Idea, I think TGS is important to Vanentines day with Cheerleader's boy obsession. Dynamite =)
:::::::Sure, we can wait on the Lappynapping saga. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

===[[HRWiki:Feature article for 2008, week 8]] (Feb 18-24)===
How bout [[Where's An Egg?]]. [[User:Aaron Master of Life|Aaron Master of Life]] 20:35, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:I dunno, I was thinking [[retirement]]. {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:13, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
::Umm...No. Well, maybe ...{drum roll} [[Listerine]]. {{User:Justin Master of Nature/sig}} 21:19, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
:::[[retirement]] might be good, but [[Listerine]] is way to short and let's not forget that it is a [[HRW:OA]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 22:31, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
::I think that [[nightlife]] may be good. It features a lot of important remarks and such in it. Besides, Listerine is too short, anyways. Dynamite 0.o
:::Nightlife is probably too new for an FA. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

==General Discussion==
===Daily Featured Blocks (On Occasion)===
In order to make daily featured articles for one week, create pages like:

*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 1]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 2]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 3]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 4]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 5]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 6]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[HRWiki:Featured article for 2005, week 50, day 0]]</nowiki> (redirect day 7 to this)