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Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 14

2008-05-14T18:08:01Z

Frazz: /* The Alfred G. Graebner Memorial High School Handbook of Rules and Regulations */

==Ditto==

Does Anyone know what a Ditto exam is? Does it refer to the ditto printer schools use? [[User:Physicsguymonsterman|Physicsguymonsterman]] 11:42, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:I can only assume it is an exam where all the questions are nearly identical to past exams. i.e. a maths exam where they ask the same questions but with differnt numbers. This would not explain the meaning though. In addition to this section of the toon, it should be noted that the text on the "Exam" is in purple, not black. [[User:125.238.9.80|125.238.9.80]] 12:10, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

:Pretty sure it's a reference to the purple-ink copies made by a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_duplicator ditto machine.] Ditto machines are often confused with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimeograph mimeographs.] This would be an ultra low-tech contrast to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scantron Scantron] computer-read multiple choice test.

:I must be old. We used this term to describe an activity sheet that was given to the whole class. Most of the time it was just busy work, but sometimes tests were given from the "teacher's edition" of the textbook for that subject. We called them dittos because they were just mass copies. Of course, I also was a substitute teacher earlier last year, and the middle school kids had no idea what I was talking about when I said "here's a ditto to do", so maybe it's fallen out of common language by now.

:Exactly, it's copies of a worksheet (or test) made on a ditto machine, which is what schools had before copiers and printers got so affordable. The process was kind of like silkscreen printing. The ink was pale purplish-blue. It stank of some weird solvent, and when the pages were fresh they were heavy with an alien dampness.

== Michelle Branch ==

The quarterback's song lyrics conceptually reminded me of Michelle Branch's "Everywhere". Does anyone else think that this is plausible? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:34, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

==Two eighty-Sevens?==
There seems to be a mistake on the Brothers Chaps part, this Crossover issue is Number 87, but the Hit-Enter-Too-Soon-Man issue is also 87. Is this worth noting?
:check goofs, it's already there. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:41, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
::This might be worth noting, but I don't think it qualifies as a goof. Couldn't this be entirely intentional on TBC's part? [[User:Telamon|-Telamon]] 02:37, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:::I agree with you — I think it might be an intentional joke (like, it's another thing Science Fiction Greg would get up in arms about). Also, I think it's interesting that the repeated issue number is [[1987|87]]. At any rate, I'd much rather see this fact in Remarks than in Goofs. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:01, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

== Floating Time Line ==

Removed "*If the teens were all thirteen in the first issue, released December of 2002, then this would make them eighteen, making this their "actual" high school graduation." under remarks. I think that TGS, like all homestarrunner.com characters, are, mostly, in a floating time line. ([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 14:25, 12 May 2008 (UTC))
: I left it in thinking that it was an interesting coincidence, but you're right. Heck, WHF even mentions returning to the school in September. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 14:27, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:: Perhaps a possible "TGS: The College Years" ([[User:SDSpivey|SDSpivey]] 16:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC))
My remark on the age of the teen girls was deleted. My reasoning is this: If they were thirteen in 2002, then they would have been sixteen in 2005 for the sweet-somethingteen birthday party in TGS 10. It seems that, by intention or happenstance, the teen girls are actually following something of a coherent plotline. I think that pointing out the fact that they would be graduating high school is interesting and worth thinking about, if only because it means that the TGS will fail to qualify for the "T" in their title in a scant year. Dissent? {{unsigned|209.158.39.251|17:17, 12 May 2008 (UTC)}}
: I agree that they would be 18. Great Fun fact. it should be Stuff'd [[User:Physicsguymonsterman|Physicsguymonsterman]] 18:37, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:: BTW, there's a flaw in the math. If they were thirteen in 2002, then they'd be '''NINETEEN''' now, not eighteen! It's been six years, and 13 + 6 = 19 last I checked. Anyway, note WHF's remark that she'd be returning in September. And note that, if they ''were'' eighteen now, What's Her Face [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9|got her driver's license at the age of FOURTEEN]]. They have a flexible timeline and you're just reading too far into it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:00, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Thirteen in December of 2002 means they would be TURNING eighteen in 2007. If their birthdays fall around Fall or Winter as implied by the timing of the somethingteen birthday party, they won't be nineteen until later this year.
:: Having said that, I notice that the argument could be made that they all turned thirteen sometime between May and December. That still doesn't excuse things like WHF's license at 14. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:03, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:::We don't really know any of the laws and regulations of FCUSA. This is a case for Litigation Jackson.
::::I noticed that all our conceptions and guesses are dependant on them moving up a grade each year. It seems to me like a reasonable answer is that they all failed a couple grades. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:::::We are arare this is all bald speculation? That Strong Bad is drawing them and as such he can choose to keep them timeless? As evidenced by the What's Her Face's license, thee is no rhyme or reason to the timeline inherently. Why impose one? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:25, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::I was just about to say the same thing. Seeing as Strong Bad made the entire series up on a whim in one email from years ago, he probably doesn't care what age they are. TGS are cartoon characters who can be around for many years and never age or look any different. That's all. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 22:28, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Is there anything in the cartoon that implies that they're graduating? I didn't see any. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 22:56, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I thought about that too. Even more evidence that we are making our conjectures based on assumed information. And I don't like to just wave away a discussion on the basis that it just ''could'' be an on purpose screwed up timeline that ''might'' have been a mistake. Can't we just collect the info that's actually there and make an inference in the case that there actually is a solution, accidental or not? {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:::::::::Guys, guys, guys. Don't you think that, if it's dbated this much, we should move it to STUFF? I mean, come on. You guys have filled up half the talk page with this. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 01:38, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::No, I don't, actually. If we can resolve this by discussion, which is superior to voting, we should. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:07, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::In the words of Strong Bad, "They're teenage girls between the ages of thirteen and nineteen", which doesn't suggest that he's hugely concerned with defining their exact ages - the fact that they're teenage is all we get. What's Her Face expecting to see Mr. Pitters next September also suggests she's coming back after the summer. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:12, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

whats her face is the oldest, she had already had her drivers liscense for a year in 2005
:::::::::::Here's how a floating time line works. Things like holidays, birthdays, end of years etc. always happen, but the characters involved do not really change much. Sweet somethingteen implies no specific age. In fact, almost everything in this series has been done without much regard to actual age. It's just generic teenishness. This is the way it's always been in the homestar universe. Since TGS is another arbitrary series within (but outside of) an already floating time, I can see no reason to write down a specific age.
:::::::::::Furthermore, when was it EVER said that they were 13 in 2002? Their age has always been arbitrary. I see no reason to include something that is based on one baseless assumption (that they were 13) and another assumption which goes against the very nature of the series, and indeed, the entire Homestarrunner universe. ([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 17:59, 14 May 2008 (UTC))

== Quarterback/Quarterman ==

I transcribed this as "Quarterman", but it turns out in his earlier appearance he was "Quarterback". Not sure whether to trust Cheerleader or The Ugly One on this! -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 14:41, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

== Only Credits? ==

Is this currently the only TGS to have a real credit roll? [[User:71.90.128.212|71.90.128.212]] 17:33, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, but I don't think it's worth mentioning it in the Fun Facts section. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
Also, potentially off-topic, why are there only three lines of the credits in the transcript? Shouldn't the whole credits be there?
: Um, that IS all of it? Teen Girl Squad isn't exactly supposed to be a blockbuster production with a huge crew behind it, after all. It's surprising enough there's more than ONE line. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:10, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

== Tite Rolled ==
Could the name of the band that performs in the credits a reference to "Rick Roll", the famous 4Chan meme? Is this plausible?
--[[User:Crazyneo|Crazyneo]] 18:05, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:I'd say it's referring to the titles rolling, myself. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 19:06, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
::That makes sense --[[User:Crazyneo|Crazyneo]] 19:22, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

== Eighty Sevens ==

Okay, so i was pretty sure i had moved it to goofs, but i saw it in remarks again, so i thought "maybe i didn't actually save earlier". Turns out i had, and trey moved it because like, maybe it was a joke, something that would irk greg. I actually like this explanation, but i wonder how plausible it is, i could go either way. so... goof or remark? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:24, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

== higher voices? ==

I don't know about you guys, but Cheerleader's voice sounded higher this time. {{User:Neox/sig}} 20:46, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:I noticed that too, especially in her first couple lines about boys. (...Boys.) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:48, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:Third'ed. It was jarring for me. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 03:20, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's gotten progressively higher over these past 6 years. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 03:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:::fourth'd! --[[User:Forddude1416|Forddude1416]] 05:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::::FIFTH'D!! --[[User:MichaelXX2|MichaelXX2]] 10:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:::THE MIGHTY SIXTH'D!!! (This is fun.) And slightly scratchier. [[User:Chipwich|Chipwich]]
:::::Why the crap did nobody count me? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 03:33, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

== What I've Been Looking For ==

Could Quarterman's speech reference that High School Musical song with words like, "It's hard to believe, that I couldn't see, that you were always there beside me" blah blah blah [[YouTube:6drR0CvlMME|here it is]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:46, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, it's already mentioned in the Real-World References. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:47, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
::I did not mean to create irony, if you were curious. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:50, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

== Canon ==

Woah. The way "canon" is defined in the Fun Facts is ''exactly'' what we're doing here at the Wiki. Probably not something to add to the article, but I just thought I'd bring that to attention. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:Kind of, but not really. We like to reconcile facts with in-universe explanations when we can, and we note when things don't quite line up from toon to toon, but overall we know that H*R canon is a very loose concept that TBC only take seriously when it's funny to do so. See the discussion on flexible time above. The Star Wars and Star Trek folks would have none of it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:18, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

== Larry Palaron-So and So? ==

Does anyone else think that when So and So says "But Mrs. Frillsneck, I studied for a standardized test!", especially the "standardized test" part, she sounds a bit like Larry from Limozeen? {{User:DevonM/sig}} 23:24, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:nope... i mean, since the voices are all the same guy, a bit, but not more so than usual, no. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:I concur...Matt does deliver the line using extremely similar intonation to much of Larry's dialogue, but I don't think it was a specific reference to Limozeen. Matt's done so many lines in so many voices, naturally there'll be a few lines of dialogue that, although spoken by different characters, sound alike. Aside from that, I think that they'd probably put a bigger Limozeen reference in there if it was intentional. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 00:34, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::No, I wasn't trying to get a fun fact out of it, I just forgot to use the forum...:^( {{User:DevonM/sig}} 02:18, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

== Dixon Ticonderoga ==

In "Real-World References", should it be mentioned that Dixon Ticonderoga is a common brand of pencil found in high schools or is that too easily inferred by its use in the mimeogWRATH fight? [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 00:36, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:Personally, I think it's just obvious, but I would not be opposed to an Explanation if others see a need. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:58, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::I actually did not know that until reading this... i think it's necessary. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 09:32, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm glad it was added, don't forget non-Americans like me don't necessarily have the same stuff! I expect you can get them in the UK, but they're not a household name at all. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 10:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Just wanted to say that I'm American and I didn't recognize the term. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 12:05, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

== Death ==

Would the dead bird on cheerleaders face be another reference to death? --[[User:Forddude1416|Forddude1416]] 05:27, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
: Come to think of it, it'd definitely be a reference to birds dying, which happens a lot in older TGS issues... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:41, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::Despite that Cheerleader calls it a "dead finch", it actually looks more like a bat to me... just my two cents. -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:14, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Looks like a bird to me. The tail is the part taped to Cheerleader; you can clearly see its beak at the bottom (with a nostril on one beak, even.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:22, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Edited in birds reference. Somebody needs to change the article about The Birds, though. ([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 18:04, 14 May 2008 (UTC))

== The Alfred G. Graebner Memorial High School Handbook of Rules and Regulations ==

Hmmm, someone took out my Real World Reference comparison to this book, but I'm not seeing why in the history or talk. Did I write it with too many spoilers for the book? Or did someone think it's just a coincidence? (I'm quite confident that it merits at least the description 'reminiscent'.)
:Um... what is that? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:42, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, here's what I wrote:
*Cheerleader's use of "several religions" as an excuse to evade exercise is reminiscent of [[Wikipedia:Ellen Conford|The Alfred G. Graebner Memorial High School Handbook of Rules and Regulations]], a novel (later adapted for television) in which one character converts to many different religions in order to skip classes on their various holidays. (The book also mentions dirty P.E. uniforms, used as an excuse to evade exercise in P.E.)
:With all due respect, I highly doubt a couple of 30-year old animators are going to be referencing an Afterschool Special or its original Young Adult novel. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:With equal respect, really? Strong Bad watches a LOT of TV. My pop-culture background is similar to the animators'. I remember ditto sheets and Dixon T's and Apple ][s and all these things. I'm Strong Bad's generation. And I read the book - it's hilariously funny, by the way, and well worth your time if you enjoy TGS. If you had read it, you'd certainly find the "several religions" comment at least "reminiscent" of the book. (If you haven't, how can you judge the similarity?) Personally I think coincidence is a *less* likely reason than deliberate reference for this specific excuse showing up in such a similar context, but how do you figure it's not "reminiscent"?
:But I didn't come here to argue. I thought this was a wiki. I provided some information and I stand by it. Use it or don't; I'm done. (But in any case, do look for the book: it's lots of fun!)
::I never read the book, so I can't tell you if it's a reference or not, but I was written in 1976, according to Wikipedia. TBC could have read it when they were kids. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:22, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
::I said I was done, but that's the other point I forgot: I sought out the TV version because I loved the book, even though I was a bit old for it. (The book's far better.) But I'm a bit older than 30, too. They could easily have seen it on purpose, if not channel-surfing. And the book was good enough and popular enough to be televised - they could easily have read it.
:::"Against my religion" is really an old joke. I've heard it several times before in various contexts. Example, "I can't tip, it's against my religion." The dirty uniforms may be a reference, just maybe, but they weren't used to get out of class anyway. They're probably just a reference to students' dirty uniforms. ([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 18:08, 14 May 2008 (UTC))

== Strong Bad's End Credit Song ==

I'm almost positive i've heard that tune somewhere on the site before. Anyone know what it's based on? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 17:43, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you're thinking of "Tonight is All Right 4 Tonight", from [[Dangeresque 3]]?

== Super Smash Squad? ==

Is it just me, or does the "Scantron vs MimeogWrath" part seem very simular to the titles before fights in the Super Smash Bros. video games? --[[User:ZootyCutie|ZootyCutie]] 21:17, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 14

2008-05-14T18:04:34Z

Frazz: /* Death */

==Ditto==

Does Anyone know what a Ditto exam is? Does it refer to the ditto printer schools use? [[User:Physicsguymonsterman|Physicsguymonsterman]] 11:42, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:I can only assume it is an exam where all the questions are nearly identical to past exams. i.e. a maths exam where they ask the same questions but with differnt numbers. This would not explain the meaning though. In addition to this section of the toon, it should be noted that the text on the "Exam" is in purple, not black. [[User:125.238.9.80|125.238.9.80]] 12:10, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

:Pretty sure it's a reference to the purple-ink copies made by a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_duplicator ditto machine.] Ditto machines are often confused with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimeograph mimeographs.] This would be an ultra low-tech contrast to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scantron Scantron] computer-read multiple choice test.

:I must be old. We used this term to describe an activity sheet that was given to the whole class. Most of the time it was just busy work, but sometimes tests were given from the "teacher's edition" of the textbook for that subject. We called them dittos because they were just mass copies. Of course, I also was a substitute teacher earlier last year, and the middle school kids had no idea what I was talking about when I said "here's a ditto to do", so maybe it's fallen out of common language by now.

:Exactly, it's copies of a worksheet (or test) made on a ditto machine, which is what schools had before copiers and printers got so affordable. The process was kind of like silkscreen printing. The ink was pale purplish-blue. It stank of some weird solvent, and when the pages were fresh they were heavy with an alien dampness.

== Michelle Branch ==

The quarterback's song lyrics conceptually reminded me of Michelle Branch's "Everywhere". Does anyone else think that this is plausible? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:34, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

==Two eighty-Sevens?==
There seems to be a mistake on the Brothers Chaps part, this Crossover issue is Number 87, but the Hit-Enter-Too-Soon-Man issue is also 87. Is this worth noting?
:check goofs, it's already there. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:41, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
::This might be worth noting, but I don't think it qualifies as a goof. Couldn't this be entirely intentional on TBC's part? [[User:Telamon|-Telamon]] 02:37, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:::I agree with you — I think it might be an intentional joke (like, it's another thing Science Fiction Greg would get up in arms about). Also, I think it's interesting that the repeated issue number is [[1987|87]]. At any rate, I'd much rather see this fact in Remarks than in Goofs. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:01, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

== Floating Time Line ==

Removed "*If the teens were all thirteen in the first issue, released December of 2002, then this would make them eighteen, making this their "actual" high school graduation." under remarks. I think that TGS, like all homestarrunner.com characters, are, mostly, in a floating time line. ([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 14:25, 12 May 2008 (UTC))
: I left it in thinking that it was an interesting coincidence, but you're right. Heck, WHF even mentions returning to the school in September. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 14:27, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:: Perhaps a possible "TGS: The College Years" ([[User:SDSpivey|SDSpivey]] 16:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC))
My remark on the age of the teen girls was deleted. My reasoning is this: If they were thirteen in 2002, then they would have been sixteen in 2005 for the sweet-somethingteen birthday party in TGS 10. It seems that, by intention or happenstance, the teen girls are actually following something of a coherent plotline. I think that pointing out the fact that they would be graduating high school is interesting and worth thinking about, if only because it means that the TGS will fail to qualify for the "T" in their title in a scant year. Dissent? {{unsigned|209.158.39.251|17:17, 12 May 2008 (UTC)}}
: I agree that they would be 18. Great Fun fact. it should be Stuff'd [[User:Physicsguymonsterman|Physicsguymonsterman]] 18:37, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:: BTW, there's a flaw in the math. If they were thirteen in 2002, then they'd be '''NINETEEN''' now, not eighteen! It's been six years, and 13 + 6 = 19 last I checked. Anyway, note WHF's remark that she'd be returning in September. And note that, if they ''were'' eighteen now, What's Her Face [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9|got her driver's license at the age of FOURTEEN]]. They have a flexible timeline and you're just reading too far into it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:00, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Thirteen in December of 2002 means they would be TURNING eighteen in 2007. If their birthdays fall around Fall or Winter as implied by the timing of the somethingteen birthday party, they won't be nineteen until later this year.
:: Having said that, I notice that the argument could be made that they all turned thirteen sometime between May and December. That still doesn't excuse things like WHF's license at 14. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:03, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:::We don't really know any of the laws and regulations of FCUSA. This is a case for Litigation Jackson.
::::I noticed that all our conceptions and guesses are dependant on them moving up a grade each year. It seems to me like a reasonable answer is that they all failed a couple grades. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:::::We are arare this is all bald speculation? That Strong Bad is drawing them and as such he can choose to keep them timeless? As evidenced by the What's Her Face's license, thee is no rhyme or reason to the timeline inherently. Why impose one? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:25, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::I was just about to say the same thing. Seeing as Strong Bad made the entire series up on a whim in one email from years ago, he probably doesn't care what age they are. TGS are cartoon characters who can be around for many years and never age or look any different. That's all. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 22:28, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Is there anything in the cartoon that implies that they're graduating? I didn't see any. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 22:56, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I thought about that too. Even more evidence that we are making our conjectures based on assumed information. And I don't like to just wave away a discussion on the basis that it just ''could'' be an on purpose screwed up timeline that ''might'' have been a mistake. Can't we just collect the info that's actually there and make an inference in the case that there actually is a solution, accidental or not? {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:::::::::Guys, guys, guys. Don't you think that, if it's dbated this much, we should move it to STUFF? I mean, come on. You guys have filled up half the talk page with this. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 01:38, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::No, I don't, actually. If we can resolve this by discussion, which is superior to voting, we should. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:07, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::In the words of Strong Bad, "They're teenage girls between the ages of thirteen and nineteen", which doesn't suggest that he's hugely concerned with defining their exact ages - the fact that they're teenage is all we get. What's Her Face expecting to see Mr. Pitters next September also suggests she's coming back after the summer. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:12, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

whats her face is the oldest, she had already had her drivers liscense for a year in 2005
:::::::::::Here's how a floating time line works. Things like holidays, birthdays, end of years etc. always happen, but the characters involved do not really change much. Sweet somethingteen implies no specific age. In fact, almost everything in this series has been done without much regard to actual age. It's just generic teenishness. This is the way it's always been in the homestar universe. Since TGS is another arbitrary series within (but outside of) an already floating time, I can see no reason to write down a specific age.
:::::::::::Furthermore, when was it EVER said that they were 13 in 2002? Their age has always been arbitrary. I see no reason to include something that is based on one baseless assumption (that they were 13) and another assumption which goes against the very nature of the series, and indeed, the entire Homestarrunner universe. ([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 17:59, 14 May 2008 (UTC))

== Quarterback/Quarterman ==

I transcribed this as "Quarterman", but it turns out in his earlier appearance he was "Quarterback". Not sure whether to trust Cheerleader or The Ugly One on this! -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 14:41, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

== Only Credits? ==

Is this currently the only TGS to have a real credit roll? [[User:71.90.128.212|71.90.128.212]] 17:33, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, but I don't think it's worth mentioning it in the Fun Facts section. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
Also, potentially off-topic, why are there only three lines of the credits in the transcript? Shouldn't the whole credits be there?
: Um, that IS all of it? Teen Girl Squad isn't exactly supposed to be a blockbuster production with a huge crew behind it, after all. It's surprising enough there's more than ONE line. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:10, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

== Tite Rolled ==
Could the name of the band that performs in the credits a reference to "Rick Roll", the famous 4Chan meme? Is this plausible?
--[[User:Crazyneo|Crazyneo]] 18:05, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:I'd say it's referring to the titles rolling, myself. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 19:06, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
::That makes sense --[[User:Crazyneo|Crazyneo]] 19:22, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

== Eighty Sevens ==

Okay, so i was pretty sure i had moved it to goofs, but i saw it in remarks again, so i thought "maybe i didn't actually save earlier". Turns out i had, and trey moved it because like, maybe it was a joke, something that would irk greg. I actually like this explanation, but i wonder how plausible it is, i could go either way. so... goof or remark? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:24, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

== higher voices? ==

I don't know about you guys, but Cheerleader's voice sounded higher this time. {{User:Neox/sig}} 20:46, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:I noticed that too, especially in her first couple lines about boys. (...Boys.) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:48, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:Third'ed. It was jarring for me. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 03:20, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's gotten progressively higher over these past 6 years. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 03:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:::fourth'd! --[[User:Forddude1416|Forddude1416]] 05:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::::FIFTH'D!! --[[User:MichaelXX2|MichaelXX2]] 10:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:::THE MIGHTY SIXTH'D!!! (This is fun.) And slightly scratchier. [[User:Chipwich|Chipwich]]
:::::Why the crap did nobody count me? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 03:33, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

== What I've Been Looking For ==

Could Quarterman's speech reference that High School Musical song with words like, "It's hard to believe, that I couldn't see, that you were always there beside me" blah blah blah [[YouTube:6drR0CvlMME|here it is]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:46, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, it's already mentioned in the Real-World References. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:47, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
::I did not mean to create irony, if you were curious. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:50, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

== Canon ==

Woah. The way "canon" is defined in the Fun Facts is ''exactly'' what we're doing here at the Wiki. Probably not something to add to the article, but I just thought I'd bring that to attention. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:Kind of, but not really. We like to reconcile facts with in-universe explanations when we can, and we note when things don't quite line up from toon to toon, but overall we know that H*R canon is a very loose concept that TBC only take seriously when it's funny to do so. See the discussion on flexible time above. The Star Wars and Star Trek folks would have none of it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:18, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

== Larry Palaron-So and So? ==

Does anyone else think that when So and So says "But Mrs. Frillsneck, I studied for a standardized test!", especially the "standardized test" part, she sounds a bit like Larry from Limozeen? {{User:DevonM/sig}} 23:24, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:nope... i mean, since the voices are all the same guy, a bit, but not more so than usual, no. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:I concur...Matt does deliver the line using extremely similar intonation to much of Larry's dialogue, but I don't think it was a specific reference to Limozeen. Matt's done so many lines in so many voices, naturally there'll be a few lines of dialogue that, although spoken by different characters, sound alike. Aside from that, I think that they'd probably put a bigger Limozeen reference in there if it was intentional. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 00:34, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::No, I wasn't trying to get a fun fact out of it, I just forgot to use the forum...:^( {{User:DevonM/sig}} 02:18, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

== Dixon Ticonderoga ==

In "Real-World References", should it be mentioned that Dixon Ticonderoga is a common brand of pencil found in high schools or is that too easily inferred by its use in the mimeogWRATH fight? [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 00:36, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:Personally, I think it's just obvious, but I would not be opposed to an Explanation if others see a need. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:58, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::I actually did not know that until reading this... i think it's necessary. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 09:32, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm glad it was added, don't forget non-Americans like me don't necessarily have the same stuff! I expect you can get them in the UK, but they're not a household name at all. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 10:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Just wanted to say that I'm American and I didn't recognize the term. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 12:05, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

== Death ==

Would the dead bird on cheerleaders face be another reference to death? --[[User:Forddude1416|Forddude1416]] 05:27, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
: Come to think of it, it'd definitely be a reference to birds dying, which happens a lot in older TGS issues... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:41, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::Despite that Cheerleader calls it a "dead finch", it actually looks more like a bat to me... just my two cents. -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:14, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Looks like a bird to me. The tail is the part taped to Cheerleader; you can clearly see its beak at the bottom (with a nostril on one beak, even.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:22, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Edited in birds reference. Somebody needs to change the article about The Birds, though. ([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 18:04, 14 May 2008 (UTC))

== The Alfred G. Graebner Memorial High School Handbook of Rules and Regulations ==

Hmmm, someone took out my Real World Reference comparison to this book, but I'm not seeing why in the history or talk. Did I write it with too many spoilers for the book? Or did someone think it's just a coincidence? (I'm quite confident that it merits at least the description 'reminiscent'.)
:Um... what is that? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:42, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, here's what I wrote:
*Cheerleader's use of "several religions" as an excuse to evade exercise is reminiscent of [[Wikipedia:Ellen Conford|The Alfred G. Graebner Memorial High School Handbook of Rules and Regulations]], a novel (later adapted for television) in which one character converts to many different religions in order to skip classes on their various holidays. (The book also mentions dirty P.E. uniforms, used as an excuse to evade exercise in P.E.)
:With all due respect, I highly doubt a couple of 30-year old animators are going to be referencing an Afterschool Special or its original Young Adult novel. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:With equal respect, really? Strong Bad watches a LOT of TV. My pop-culture background is similar to the animators'. I remember ditto sheets and Dixon T's and Apple ][s and all these things. I'm Strong Bad's generation. And I read the book - it's hilariously funny, by the way, and well worth your time if you enjoy TGS. If you had read it, you'd certainly find the "several religions" comment at least "reminiscent" of the book. (If you haven't, how can you judge the similarity?) Personally I think coincidence is a *less* likely reason than deliberate reference for this specific excuse showing up in such a similar context, but how do you figure it's not "reminiscent"?
:But I didn't come here to argue. I thought this was a wiki. I provided some information and I stand by it. Use it or don't; I'm done. (But in any case, do look for the book: it's lots of fun!)
::I never read the book, so I can't tell you if it's a reference or not, but I was written in 1976, according to Wikipedia. TBC could have read it when they were kids. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:22, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
::I said I was done, but that's the other point I forgot: I sought out the TV version because I loved the book, even though I was a bit old for it. (The book's far better.) But I'm a bit older than 30, too. They could easily have seen it on purpose, if not channel-surfing. And the book was good enough and popular enough to be televised - they could easily have read it.

== Strong Bad's End Credit Song ==

I'm almost positive i've heard that tune somewhere on the site before. Anyone know what it's based on? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 17:43, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you're thinking of "Tonight is All Right 4 Tonight", from [[Dangeresque 3]]?

== Super Smash Squad? ==

Is it just me, or does the "Scantron vs MimeogWrath" part seem very simular to the titles before fights in the Super Smash Bros. video games? --[[User:ZootyCutie|ZootyCutie]] 21:17, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Teen Girl Squad Issue 14

2008-05-14T18:03:10Z

Frazz: /* Inside References */ Added birds reference, as discussed in talk. Somebody needs to modify The Birds article to include it.

{{tgsnav|14|Teen Girl Squad Issue 13|Issue 13|Teen Girl Squad Issue 1|Issue 1}}

The girls prepare for the end of the school year.

[[Image:tgs14 Scantron armor.png|thumb|"Doesn't canon mean anything to these people?"]]

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Cheerleader}}, {{Film|So and So}}, {{Film|What's Her Face}}, {{Film|The Ugly One}}, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Cheerladder|Cheerladder]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Cheerlubber|Cheerlubber]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Scantron|Scantron]], [[Science Fiction Greg and D N'D Greg|Science Fiction Greg]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Mrs. Frillsneck|Mrs. Frillsneck]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#MimeogWrath|MimeogWrath]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Olympic Man and Coach|Coach]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Team Manager|Team Manager]], [[Mr. Pitters]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Evil Cake|Evil Cake]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#The Seniors|The Seniors]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Quarterback|Quarterback]], {{Film|Strong Badman}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#The School|The School]], The Parking Lot

'''Date:''' Monday, May 12, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 3:40

'''Page Title:''' Exempt Those Exams!

==Transcript==
'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Teen Girl Squad! Cheerleader! ''{most likely to!}'' So and So! ''{more than likely to succeed!}'' What's Her Face! ''{least likely to care}'' The Ugly One! ''{like, mostly to secede?}''

''{Open to Cheerleader standing with What's Her Face and So and So.}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Oh boy, girls... Boys!

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Uh, what about them?

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Nothing really. I just like to say the word.

''{Cut to close up of Cheerleader.}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' ''{makes a weird face}'' Boys.

''{Cut back to everyone. The Ugly One walks in with a "YEAR BOOK".}''

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Last day of school, my better looking sistas! And that means it's YEARBOOK DA--''(gets cut off before last syllable)''

''{Quick cut to the girls fighting inside a cloud of dust.}''

'''ALL:''' LEMME SEE MY PICTURE! LEMME SEE MY PICTURE!

''{Cut to Cheerleader with a frown pulling the book out of the pile. The cover of the book now reads, "The AWKWARDIAN '08".}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Gimme that jank. ''{pile disappears}'' Here I am, right between Cheerladder and Cheerlubber. Ugh. I look terrible.

''{Close-up of the yearbook, showing Cheerladder (a ladder with a face, holding a "G'backs" megaphone), Cheerleader with a fangs and a dead bird stuck to her face, and Cheerlubber, a whale with pom-poms, a pirate hat and an eye-patch}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' ''{off screen}'' I can't believe they scheduled school pictures for the same day as tape-a-dead-thing-to-your-face day. That finch was hard to kill.

''{Cut to So-and-so, holding up her hand.}''

'''SO AND SO:''' Before I can dabble in any yearbookery... ''{moves her hand to her chest}'' I have some final exams to ACE!! ''{raises her hand again, looking determined}'' Scantron armor... ''{flies into the air}'' ASSEMBLE!!

''{Robotic body armor attaches to So-and-so's body as she calls out.}''

'''SO AND SO:''' NUMBER 2 PENCIL! ''{left arm appears}'' SCRATCH PAPER! ''{right arm appears}'' HEALTHY BREAKFAST! ''{hips and legs appear}'' COMFORTABLE CLOTHES! ''{torso appears}'' And I'll form... the HEAD! ''{head appears}''

''{So-and-so stands in her Scantron armor. Science Fiction Greg looks on, reading a comic.}''

'''SCIENCE FICTION GREG:''' Ugh. ''{cut to close-up, showing he is holding a Scantron comic}'' That design looks nothing like the comic books. Doesn't canon mean anything to these people?

''{Cut to So-and-so in her Scantron armor, sitting at a desk next to a teacher holding a test.}''

'''MRS. FRILLSNECK:''' Here's your final exam class... it's a ditto.

'''SO-AND-SO:''' ''{looking distraught}'' A DITTO?! But Mrs. Frillsneck, I studied for a standardized test!

''{Cut to Scantron against a background of lines.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Scantron vs MimeogWrath!

''{"vs" and the "mimeogWrath" appear; it is a six-eyed monstrous piece of paper with tentacles, horns and legs. Its eyes, mouth and "Final Exam Ditto" are drawn in purple.}''

'''SO-AND-SO:''' ''{as Scantron, running with a pencil}'' DIXON TICONDEROGA LAZER BLADE ATTACK!

''{The pencil hits the MimeogWrath, which closes its eyes, then starts "waving" one of its tentacles.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' HYPER TURBO FILL IN THE BLANK BARRAGE!!

''{Scantron is blown apart, the head and limbs coming apart in the explosion.}''

'''SO-AND-SO:''' ''{as Scantron}'' AHH! My secret weakness!!

''{Cut to Cheerleader, The Ugly One and What's Her Face in the gym. All three wear singlets and shorts; both The Ugly One's and What's Her Face's are clearly dirty.}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' I can't believe we have to dress out for our P.E. exam. I'm so tired of washing this uniform every day. ''{crosses her hands}''

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' ''{evasively, making a face}'' Yes... washing... them... ever

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' ''{pointing as she completes the sentence}'' —ryday!

''{Coach appears to the left, holding a stopwatch.}''

'''COACH:''' Okie dokie ladygals. Your physical education final exam consists of me not making any misinterpreted remarks about the length of your shorts ''{holds out the stopwatch}'' and you doing a single push-up.

'''CHEERLEADER, THE UGLY ONE & WHAT'S HER FACE:''' NO!!!

'''COACH:''' ''{shaken, holding up his hands}'' Hey great work! You all get A's!!

''{Close up of Cheerleader, looking annoyed. Her singlet reads "Growlback's Phys. Ed."}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Thank groodness. ''{smiles, pointing up}'' Sweating is against several of my religions!

''{A boy crashes a cart into Cheerleader, apparently killing her; towels and gym kit fall from the cart.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' TOWEL BOY'D!!

'''TEAM MANAGER:''' ''{looking annoyed}'' Hey!

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' ''{sarcastically; his words do not appear}'' Oh, excuse me. ''{the previous words are replaced}'' TEAM MANAGER'D!!

'''TEAM MANAGER:''' ''{smiles, and holds up a card as he speaks}'' Stats!

''{Cut to What's Her Face facing several lockers.}''

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' I'll go ahead and clean out my locker I 'spooooooooose. ''{the o's move up, then down as she speaks}''

''{What's Her Face throws objects out from her locker as she speaks.}''

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Old papers... ''{throws papers}'' old pencils... ''{throws pencils}'' old person... ''{throws Mr. Pitters}''

'''MR. PITTERS:''' ''{hurriedly}'' I left a check for last month's rent on the table!

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' ''{waving}'' See you in September! ''{puts her hand back in her locker}'' Ooh. Whats this?

''{What's Her Face is eaten by a giant cake with fangs and limbs.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' REVENGE OF THE CROSS COUNTRY BOOSTER CLUB BAKESALE!!

'''EVIL CAKE:''' ''{holding up one of its hands}'' Tastes like 9 minute miles!

''{Cut to The Ugly One reading the yearbook.}''

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' I can't believe I was voted most prettiest.

''{Cut to a wider shot, showing three seniors laughing and pointing. One wears a baseball cap with a "G". The Ugly One looks upset.}''

'''SENIORS:''' Heh heh heh senior prank, senior prank. Heh heh senior prank.

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' ''{upset}'' Oooooh.

'''SECOND SENIOR:''' Naw really. You wanna be my girlfriend?

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' ''{happily, raising her arm}'' I'd love to!

'''SENIORS:''' Heh heh heh senior prank, senior prank. Senior prank, heh.

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' ''{upset again}'' Oooooh.

'''THIRD SENIOR:''' ''{holding up a ring}'' Want this diamond ring?

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' ''{reaching for it}'' Of course!

'''SENIORS:''' Senior prank heh heh heh.

''{The Ugly One is upset again, but then three trash cans are thrown over the seniors, and she smiles.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' COME UPPENCE!

'''SENIORS:''' Something got dumped on us! We'll never live it down! Our reputations are ruined!

''{Music starts, and Quarterback walks in.}''

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' ''{happily, throwing the yearbook away}'' Quarterman!

'''QUARTERBACK:''' Ugly One, all this time I was looking around, and you weren't right there in front of me. ''{close up}'' But I realized—when I was looking around—that you were right there in front of me—all this time—Ugly One.

''{Cut back to both of them.}''

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' That makes so much sense!!

'''QUARTERBACK:''' ''{offering his arm}'' Will you accompany me to the end credits?

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' ''{putting her arm in his}'' I'd love to!!

''{The end credits roll, first showing "It's over!", then The Ugly One and Quarterback in a parking lot, then the seniors with trash cans on their heads, and "It's over" again.}''

<blockquote>Directed by Strong Bad 
Special Scantron FX oversawed by Bubs 
"It's over" performed by Tite Rolled</blockquote>

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing over the end credits}'' It's over! And you're walking into a parking lot with the hot guy. It's over! And they all make fun of you, but they got stuff dumped on top of them. ''{music stops}'' It's over!

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Scantron.png|thumb|Scantron]]
*At the end, click on the "o" to see issue 87 of "The Total Adventures of Strong Badman." It features [[Strong_Badman_Characters#Scantron|Scantron]] with a word bubble reading "I need your help. Strong Badman! My comic book's not selling well!" Text at the bottom of the cover reads "The CROSSOVER no one was asking for!"

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*Science Fiction Greg's remarks that So-and-So's Scantron armor "looks nothing like the comic books" parodies fan complaints of superhero movies that differ in some way from their comic book counterparts (for example, the [[Wikipedia:Transformers (film)|live-action ''Transformers'' movie]], which had considerably different robot designs from the original '80s cartoon).
*[[Wikipedia:Canon (fiction)|Canon]] refers to a collection of fictional events that create a ficticious universe, such as the Marvel Universe or the Star Wars galaxy. Some fan communities take canon very seriously and try to fit every piece of fiction about said universe seamlessly together, although contradictions and loopholes are inevitable.
*[[Wikipedia:Scantron|Scantrons]] are a type of fill-in-the-bubble test sheet that are commonly used in high schools and middle schools.
*MimeogWrath refers to the [[Wikipedia:Mimeograph_machine|Mimeograph]], a technology commonly used to reproduce classroom materials.
*[[Wikipedia: Dixon Ticonderoga|Dixon Ticonderoga]] is a brand of [[Wikipedia: pencil|pencil]].

===Remarks===
*Cheerleader remarks that she had to "tape a dead thing to her face" on Picture Day, but neither Cheerladder nor Cheerlubber did.
*Cheerleader's gym shirt has "Growlback's Phys. Ed." written on it. Given that the team is called the "Growlbacks", the apostrophe should be after the S if it's referring to the team.
*The Strong Badman comic is labeled as the [[1987|87]]th issue, even though there already was an [[:Image:EnterTooSoonMan.png|issue 87]] featuring "Hit-Enter-Too-Soon Man".

===Goofs===
*At the end, clicking on "again" simply repeats the final credits rather than the entire cartoon.
*There is a slight difference in spacing in the text "DiXON TICONDEROGA LAZER" before and after the word "BLADE" appears.
*Right before the credits move up, they start to move down for a single frame.
*"Come uppence" is correctly spelled comeuppance.

===Inside References===
*Cheerleader is wearing a "Fighting Growlbacks" T-shirt during her gym final. The Growlbacks were first mentioned as the school's mascot in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]].
*"Thank groodness" is the reappearance of an older [[Portmanteaus|portmanteau]] of "great" and "good", also from Issue 4.
*The third Senior has a "[[G]]" on his cap.
*Cheerleader has [[fangs]] in her yearbook photo.
*When So-and-So puts on the "armor", the number 2 pencil goes on her [[Left handedness|left hand]].
*The finch taped on Cheerleader's face is a reference to [[Birds (Teen Girl Squad)|The Birds]]

===Real-World References===
*So-and-So's transformation into "Scantron" (as well as her saying "And I'll form the head!") is reminiscent of the TV series [[Wikipedia:Voltron|Voltron]].
*Quarterback's song refers to "What I've Been Looking For" from the [[Disney]] television film ''[[Wikipedia:High School Musical|High School Musical]]''.
*Strong Bad's line about the parking lot is a reference to the ending of ''[[Wikipedia:The Breakfast Club|The Breakfast Club]]''.

==External Links==
*[[HR:tgs14.html|watch "Teen Girl Squad Issue 14"]]
*[[HR:tgs14.swf|view the Flash file for "Teen Girl Squad Issue 14"]]
*[[Forum:14042|forum thread re: "Teen Girl Squad Issue 14"]]

{{Teen Girl Squad}}

[[Category:Teen Girl Squad]]

Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 14

2008-05-14T17:59:40Z

Frazz: /* Floating Time Line */

==Ditto==

Does Anyone know what a Ditto exam is? Does it refer to the ditto printer schools use? [[User:Physicsguymonsterman|Physicsguymonsterman]] 11:42, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:I can only assume it is an exam where all the questions are nearly identical to past exams. i.e. a maths exam where they ask the same questions but with differnt numbers. This would not explain the meaning though. In addition to this section of the toon, it should be noted that the text on the "Exam" is in purple, not black. [[User:125.238.9.80|125.238.9.80]] 12:10, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

:Pretty sure it's a reference to the purple-ink copies made by a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_duplicator ditto machine.] Ditto machines are often confused with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimeograph mimeographs.] This would be an ultra low-tech contrast to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scantron Scantron] computer-read multiple choice test.

:I must be old. We used this term to describe an activity sheet that was given to the whole class. Most of the time it was just busy work, but sometimes tests were given from the "teacher's edition" of the textbook for that subject. We called them dittos because they were just mass copies. Of course, I also was a substitute teacher earlier last year, and the middle school kids had no idea what I was talking about when I said "here's a ditto to do", so maybe it's fallen out of common language by now.

:Exactly, it's copies of a worksheet (or test) made on a ditto machine, which is what schools had before copiers and printers got so affordable. The process was kind of like silkscreen printing. The ink was pale purplish-blue. It stank of some weird solvent, and when the pages were fresh they were heavy with an alien dampness.

== Michelle Branch ==

The quarterback's song lyrics conceptually reminded me of Michelle Branch's "Everywhere". Does anyone else think that this is plausible? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:34, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

==Two eighty-Sevens?==
There seems to be a mistake on the Brothers Chaps part, this Crossover issue is Number 87, but the Hit-Enter-Too-Soon-Man issue is also 87. Is this worth noting?
:check goofs, it's already there. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:41, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
::This might be worth noting, but I don't think it qualifies as a goof. Couldn't this be entirely intentional on TBC's part? [[User:Telamon|-Telamon]] 02:37, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:::I agree with you — I think it might be an intentional joke (like, it's another thing Science Fiction Greg would get up in arms about). Also, I think it's interesting that the repeated issue number is [[1987|87]]. At any rate, I'd much rather see this fact in Remarks than in Goofs. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:01, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

== Floating Time Line ==

Removed "*If the teens were all thirteen in the first issue, released December of 2002, then this would make them eighteen, making this their "actual" high school graduation." under remarks. I think that TGS, like all homestarrunner.com characters, are, mostly, in a floating time line. ([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 14:25, 12 May 2008 (UTC))
: I left it in thinking that it was an interesting coincidence, but you're right. Heck, WHF even mentions returning to the school in September. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 14:27, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:: Perhaps a possible "TGS: The College Years" ([[User:SDSpivey|SDSpivey]] 16:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC))
My remark on the age of the teen girls was deleted. My reasoning is this: If they were thirteen in 2002, then they would have been sixteen in 2005 for the sweet-somethingteen birthday party in TGS 10. It seems that, by intention or happenstance, the teen girls are actually following something of a coherent plotline. I think that pointing out the fact that they would be graduating high school is interesting and worth thinking about, if only because it means that the TGS will fail to qualify for the "T" in their title in a scant year. Dissent? {{unsigned|209.158.39.251|17:17, 12 May 2008 (UTC)}}
: I agree that they would be 18. Great Fun fact. it should be Stuff'd [[User:Physicsguymonsterman|Physicsguymonsterman]] 18:37, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:: BTW, there's a flaw in the math. If they were thirteen in 2002, then they'd be '''NINETEEN''' now, not eighteen! It's been six years, and 13 + 6 = 19 last I checked. Anyway, note WHF's remark that she'd be returning in September. And note that, if they ''were'' eighteen now, What's Her Face [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9|got her driver's license at the age of FOURTEEN]]. They have a flexible timeline and you're just reading too far into it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:00, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Thirteen in December of 2002 means they would be TURNING eighteen in 2007. If their birthdays fall around Fall or Winter as implied by the timing of the somethingteen birthday party, they won't be nineteen until later this year.
:: Having said that, I notice that the argument could be made that they all turned thirteen sometime between May and December. That still doesn't excuse things like WHF's license at 14. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:03, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:::We don't really know any of the laws and regulations of FCUSA. This is a case for Litigation Jackson.
::::I noticed that all our conceptions and guesses are dependant on them moving up a grade each year. It seems to me like a reasonable answer is that they all failed a couple grades. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:::::We are arare this is all bald speculation? That Strong Bad is drawing them and as such he can choose to keep them timeless? As evidenced by the What's Her Face's license, thee is no rhyme or reason to the timeline inherently. Why impose one? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:25, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::I was just about to say the same thing. Seeing as Strong Bad made the entire series up on a whim in one email from years ago, he probably doesn't care what age they are. TGS are cartoon characters who can be around for many years and never age or look any different. That's all. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 22:28, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Is there anything in the cartoon that implies that they're graduating? I didn't see any. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 22:56, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I thought about that too. Even more evidence that we are making our conjectures based on assumed information. And I don't like to just wave away a discussion on the basis that it just ''could'' be an on purpose screwed up timeline that ''might'' have been a mistake. Can't we just collect the info that's actually there and make an inference in the case that there actually is a solution, accidental or not? {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:::::::::Guys, guys, guys. Don't you think that, if it's dbated this much, we should move it to STUFF? I mean, come on. You guys have filled up half the talk page with this. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 01:38, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::No, I don't, actually. If we can resolve this by discussion, which is superior to voting, we should. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:07, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::In the words of Strong Bad, "They're teenage girls between the ages of thirteen and nineteen", which doesn't suggest that he's hugely concerned with defining their exact ages - the fact that they're teenage is all we get. What's Her Face expecting to see Mr. Pitters next September also suggests she's coming back after the summer. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:12, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

whats her face is the oldest, she had already had her drivers liscense for a year in 2005
:::::::::::Here's how a floating time line works. Things like holidays, birthdays, end of years etc. always happen, but the characters involved do not really change much. Sweet somethingteen implies no specific age. In fact, almost everything in this series has been done without much regard to actual age. It's just generic teenishness. This is the way it's always been in the homestar universe. Since TGS is another arbitrary series within (but outside of) an already floating time, I can see no reason to write down a specific age.
:::::::::::Furthermore, when was it EVER said that they were 13 in 2002? Their age has always been arbitrary. I see no reason to include something that is based on one baseless assumption (that they were 13) and another assumption which goes against the very nature of the series, and indeed, the entire Homestarrunner universe. ([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 17:59, 14 May 2008 (UTC))

== Quarterback/Quarterman ==

I transcribed this as "Quarterman", but it turns out in his earlier appearance he was "Quarterback". Not sure whether to trust Cheerleader or The Ugly One on this! -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 14:41, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

== Only Credits? ==

Is this currently the only TGS to have a real credit roll? [[User:71.90.128.212|71.90.128.212]] 17:33, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, but I don't think it's worth mentioning it in the Fun Facts section. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
Also, potentially off-topic, why are there only three lines of the credits in the transcript? Shouldn't the whole credits be there?
: Um, that IS all of it? Teen Girl Squad isn't exactly supposed to be a blockbuster production with a huge crew behind it, after all. It's surprising enough there's more than ONE line. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:10, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

== Tite Rolled ==
Could the name of the band that performs in the credits a reference to "Rick Roll", the famous 4Chan meme? Is this plausible?
--[[User:Crazyneo|Crazyneo]] 18:05, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:I'd say it's referring to the titles rolling, myself. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 19:06, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
::That makes sense --[[User:Crazyneo|Crazyneo]] 19:22, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

== Eighty Sevens ==

Okay, so i was pretty sure i had moved it to goofs, but i saw it in remarks again, so i thought "maybe i didn't actually save earlier". Turns out i had, and trey moved it because like, maybe it was a joke, something that would irk greg. I actually like this explanation, but i wonder how plausible it is, i could go either way. so... goof or remark? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:24, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

== higher voices? ==

I don't know about you guys, but Cheerleader's voice sounded higher this time. {{User:Neox/sig}} 20:46, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:I noticed that too, especially in her first couple lines about boys. (...Boys.) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:48, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:Third'ed. It was jarring for me. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 03:20, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's gotten progressively higher over these past 6 years. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 03:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:::fourth'd! --[[User:Forddude1416|Forddude1416]] 05:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::::FIFTH'D!! --[[User:MichaelXX2|MichaelXX2]] 10:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:::THE MIGHTY SIXTH'D!!! (This is fun.) And slightly scratchier. [[User:Chipwich|Chipwich]]
:::::Why the crap did nobody count me? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 03:33, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

== What I've Been Looking For ==

Could Quarterman's speech reference that High School Musical song with words like, "It's hard to believe, that I couldn't see, that you were always there beside me" blah blah blah [[YouTube:6drR0CvlMME|here it is]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:46, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, it's already mentioned in the Real-World References. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:47, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
::I did not mean to create irony, if you were curious. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:50, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

== Canon ==

Woah. The way "canon" is defined in the Fun Facts is ''exactly'' what we're doing here at the Wiki. Probably not something to add to the article, but I just thought I'd bring that to attention. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:Kind of, but not really. We like to reconcile facts with in-universe explanations when we can, and we note when things don't quite line up from toon to toon, but overall we know that H*R canon is a very loose concept that TBC only take seriously when it's funny to do so. See the discussion on flexible time above. The Star Wars and Star Trek folks would have none of it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:18, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

== Larry Palaron-So and So? ==

Does anyone else think that when So and So says "But Mrs. Frillsneck, I studied for a standardized test!", especially the "standardized test" part, she sounds a bit like Larry from Limozeen? {{User:DevonM/sig}} 23:24, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:nope... i mean, since the voices are all the same guy, a bit, but not more so than usual, no. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:I concur...Matt does deliver the line using extremely similar intonation to much of Larry's dialogue, but I don't think it was a specific reference to Limozeen. Matt's done so many lines in so many voices, naturally there'll be a few lines of dialogue that, although spoken by different characters, sound alike. Aside from that, I think that they'd probably put a bigger Limozeen reference in there if it was intentional. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 00:34, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::No, I wasn't trying to get a fun fact out of it, I just forgot to use the forum...:^( {{User:DevonM/sig}} 02:18, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

== Dixon Ticonderoga ==

In "Real-World References", should it be mentioned that Dixon Ticonderoga is a common brand of pencil found in high schools or is that too easily inferred by its use in the mimeogWRATH fight? [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 00:36, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:Personally, I think it's just obvious, but I would not be opposed to an Explanation if others see a need. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:58, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::I actually did not know that until reading this... i think it's necessary. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 09:32, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm glad it was added, don't forget non-Americans like me don't necessarily have the same stuff! I expect you can get them in the UK, but they're not a household name at all. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 10:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Just wanted to say that I'm American and I didn't recognize the term. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 12:05, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

== Death ==

Would the dead bird on cheerleaders face be another reference to death? --[[User:Forddude1416|Forddude1416]] 05:27, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
: Come to think of it, it'd definitely be a reference to birds dying, which happens a lot in older TGS issues... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:41, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::Despite that Cheerleader calls it a "dead finch", it actually looks more like a bat to me... just my two cents. -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:14, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Looks like a bird to me. The tail is the part taped to Cheerleader; you can clearly see its beak at the bottom (with a nostril on one beak, even.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:22, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

== The Alfred G. Graebner Memorial High School Handbook of Rules and Regulations ==

Hmmm, someone took out my Real World Reference comparison to this book, but I'm not seeing why in the history or talk. Did I write it with too many spoilers for the book? Or did someone think it's just a coincidence? (I'm quite confident that it merits at least the description 'reminiscent'.)
:Um... what is that? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:42, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, here's what I wrote:
*Cheerleader's use of "several religions" as an excuse to evade exercise is reminiscent of [[Wikipedia:Ellen Conford|The Alfred G. Graebner Memorial High School Handbook of Rules and Regulations]], a novel (later adapted for television) in which one character converts to many different religions in order to skip classes on their various holidays. (The book also mentions dirty P.E. uniforms, used as an excuse to evade exercise in P.E.)
:With all due respect, I highly doubt a couple of 30-year old animators are going to be referencing an Afterschool Special or its original Young Adult novel. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:With equal respect, really? Strong Bad watches a LOT of TV. My pop-culture background is similar to the animators'. I remember ditto sheets and Dixon T's and Apple ][s and all these things. I'm Strong Bad's generation. And I read the book - it's hilariously funny, by the way, and well worth your time if you enjoy TGS. If you had read it, you'd certainly find the "several religions" comment at least "reminiscent" of the book. (If you haven't, how can you judge the similarity?) Personally I think coincidence is a *less* likely reason than deliberate reference for this specific excuse showing up in such a similar context, but how do you figure it's not "reminiscent"?
:But I didn't come here to argue. I thought this was a wiki. I provided some information and I stand by it. Use it or don't; I'm done. (But in any case, do look for the book: it's lots of fun!)
::I never read the book, so I can't tell you if it's a reference or not, but I was written in 1976, according to Wikipedia. TBC could have read it when they were kids. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:22, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
::I said I was done, but that's the other point I forgot: I sought out the TV version because I loved the book, even though I was a bit old for it. (The book's far better.) But I'm a bit older than 30, too. They could easily have seen it on purpose, if not channel-surfing. And the book was good enough and popular enough to be televised - they could easily have read it.

== Strong Bad's End Credit Song ==

I'm almost positive i've heard that tune somewhere on the site before. Anyone know what it's based on? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 17:43, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you're thinking of "Tonight is All Right 4 Tonight", from [[Dangeresque 3]]?

== Super Smash Squad? ==

Is it just me, or does the "Scantron vs MimeogWrath" part seem very simular to the titles before fights in the Super Smash Bros. video games? --[[User:ZootyCutie|ZootyCutie]] 21:17, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 14

2008-05-12T14:25:14Z

Frazz: /**/Floating Time Line

Teen Girl Squad Issue 14

2008-05-12T14:23:48Z

Frazz: /* Remarks */ removed "*If the teens were all thirteen in the first issue, released December of 2002, then this would make them eighteen, making this their "actual" high school graduation."

{{tgsnav|14|Teen Girl Squad Issue 13|Issue 13|Teen Girl Squad Issue 1|Issue 1}}

The girls prepare for the end of the school year.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Cheerleader}}, {{Film|So and So}}, {{Film|What's Her Face}}, {{Film|The Ugly One}}, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Cheerladder|Cheerladder]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Cheerlubber|Cheerlubber]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Scantron|Scantron]], [[Science Fiction Greg and D N'D Greg|Science Fiction Greg]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Mrs. Frillsneck|Mrs. Frillsneck]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#MimeogWrath|MimeogWrath]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Olympic Man and Coach|Coach]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Team Manager|Team Manager]], [[Mr. Pitters]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Evil Cake|Evil Cake]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#The Seniors|The Seniors]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Quarterback|Quarterback]], {{Film|Strong Badman}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:'''

'''Date:''' Monday, May 12th, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 3:40

'''Page Title:''' Exempt Those Exams!

==Transcript==
'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Teen Girl Squad! Cheerleader! ''{most likely to!}'' So and So! ''{more than likely to succeed!}'' What's Her Face! ''{least likely to care}'' The Ugly One! ''{like, mostly to secede?}''

''{Open to Cheerleader standing with What's Her Face and So and So}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' oh boy, girls... Boys!

'''SO AND SO:''' uh, what about them?

'''CHEERLEADER:''' nothing really. i just like to say the word.

''{Cut to close up of Cheerleader}'''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' ''{makes a weird face}'' boys.

''{Cut back to everyone. The Ugly One walks in with a YEAR BOOK}''

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' last day of school, my better looking sistas! And that means it's YEARBOOK DAY!!

''{Quick cut to the girls fighting inside a cloud of dust}''

'''ALL:''' LEMME SEE MY PICTURE! LEMME SEE MY PICTURE!

''{Cut to Cheerleader with a frown pulling the book out of the pile. The cover of the book now reads, "The AWKWARDIAN '08"}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' gimme that jank ''{pile disappears}'' here i am, right between Cheerladder and Cheerlubber. ugh. i look terrible.

'''CHEERLEADER:''' i can't belive they schduled pictuers the same day as tape-a-dead-thing-to-your-face-day.
{{transcriptinprogress|Mithent}}

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Scantron.png|thumb|Scantron]]
*At the end, click on the "o" to see issue 87 of "The Total Adventures of Strong Badman." It features [[Strong_Badman_Characters#Scantron|Scantron]] with a word bubble reading "I need your help. Strong Badman! My comic book's not selling well!" Text at the bottom of the cover reads "The CROSSOVER no one was asking for!"

==Fun Facts==

===Remarks===
*At the end, if you click on "again" it simply repeats the final credits rather than the entire cartoon.

===Goofs===
*The Strong Badman comic is labelled as the 87th issue, but there already was an [[:Image:EnterTooSoonMan.png|issue 87]] featuring "Hit-Enter-Too-Soon Man."

===Inside References===
*Cheerleader is wearing a "Fighting Growlbacks" T-shirt during her gym final. The Growlbacks were first mentioned as the school's team name in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]].
*"Thank groodness" is the reappearance of an older portmanteau of "great" and "good", also from Issue 4.

===Real-World References===
*So-and-So's transformation into "Scantron" (as well as her saying "And I'll form the head!") is reminiscent of the classic TV series [[Wikipedia:Voltron|Voltron]].

==External Links==
*[[HR:tgs14.html|watch "Teen Girl Squad Issue 14"]]
*[[HR:tgs14.swf|view the Flash file for "Teen Girl Squad Issue 14"]]

{{Teen Girl Squad}}

[[Category:Teen Girl Squad]]

HRWiki talk:The Stick

2008-04-01T05:06:47Z

Frazz: /* Scrambled?Titles? */

==legitimate screenshots==
does anybody know how to get decent screenshots? when i press "print screen", all it does is copy an image to my clipboard, which i can't get off and into a saved file for the life of me.

and sorry i'm not signed in, i'm in the process of changing my [[HRWiki:Changing_username|changing my username]]
-i know. can you believe it?/DJ Teh Cheat

:Doozey of a new name, DJ. I prefer [http://www.irfanview Irfanview] as an image editor—low memory profile, doesn't try to be Photoshop when all you need is to convert or crop. Anyway,
#do your "print screen" thing—yes, it will put it on the clipboard;
#open your preferred editor;
#hit "paste." Voila! Then save, preferably as PNG. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:19, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

grazie. or.. gratzie. or.. whatever. god bless photoshop.
-[[User:DJ Teh Cheat|DJ Teh Cheat]]

== Under Construction ==

This is under extensive construction, but it should eventually be something similar to Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Community portal|community portal]]. If you have suggestions or ideas, feel free to help us improve it. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 15:31, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

== Screenshot ==

Thinkin' we need a screenshot of [[The Stick]] here. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

I'ma try and get one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:26, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

:Done.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:29, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

::Aw! I wanted to do a whole new one, from [[the bird]], but oh well. (I had it all ready to be uploaded too...) --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

:::could you email the pic to me acekirby13 (P.S. My email is at my user page)[[User:Pertmywert|Joel]]|[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]

== Thumbnail ==

The thumbnail we have of The Stick seems to be overlapping the background image of The Stick on the page. We should remove the thumbnail; the page looks better without it anyway (in my opinion, of course). --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

:If you're using a [http://www.getfirefox.com browser that can properly interpret CSS], the page is elongated to eliminate the overlap. Once the page has more information on it, this will no longer be a problem. I suppose we could remove the thumbnail in the meantime... — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:40, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

== Now you see me, and now you don't. ==
The Stick isn't always in the navigation panel. I'm not sure if it's for certain pages or just random. If it's for certain pages I'll give an example soon. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 21:07, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Example: [[The Halloween House]]. (This one seems to not have The Stick in navigation.) [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 21:10, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

(Edit Conflict- My Reply)
:It isn't? That's odd. It always is for me (unless I haven't noticed it). Maybe you should take this up with the mods. [[User:Tom|Tom]] and [[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] are good with Wiki glitches. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 21:11, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

:Try a hard refresh. (Ctrl+F5). That usually fixes things up with me. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

::By the way, when I go to [[The Halloween House]], I can still see The Stick in the navigation. As suggested above, try a Hard Refresh. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 21:14, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

::Nope, that hard refresh thing's not working. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 21:16, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

:::Try clearing your cache completely. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 21:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

::::Okay, so far I'm not having the problem anymore. That must've been it. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 21:20, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

== New Committees ==

Is it alright if we start new committees? -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:38, 10 May 2005 (PDT)

:Talk it over with [[User:JoeyDay|Joey]] first. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

==Protection==
Do you guys think HRWiki:The Stick is worth protecting?-[[User:Gordon 584|'''^Gordon^''']]

I do. Like the main page, this is rarely changed. This deserves protection much more than the main page, in my opinion. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:30, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I disagree with your last point, Rogue. The main page is the most visited page on the site. The Stick is not. The only reason why this page should possibly be protected is because it isn't changed much. It is one of the most trolled pages on the site because it is the first editable page linked on the sidebar. I don't think protecting it would help much, because trolls would simply move on to H*R.com updates and Strong Bad Email. Besides, trolling at the stick is usually reverted pretty quickly. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:37, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::So were the Main Page edits. Look at The Stick's history. Most them are trolling edits. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:43, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::I didn't say I strongly oppose protecting this page. From the perspective of the wiki as a whole, it wouldn't do much. But I guess that's the wrong perspective. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:48, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::I strongly oppose protecting it. See [[HRWiki_talk:About#Protect.3F|my arguments here]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:51, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I agree that no page is 100% perfect, but this page is one of the most trolled pages on the wiki. If this page is edited, chances are that it is a defacement. And please tell me why this page would need to be edited. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 02:01, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Users should be allowed to add stuff to the Stick if they come up with a useful tool or committee or something. Trolling isn't that hard to revert, and protection is against the wiki way. Like Joe said, the trolls would just move on to H*R.com updates and Strong Bad Email (which ''can't'' be protected). {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 02:04, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Ok, I concede. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 02:07, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Pledge Drive ==

The Pledge Drive is a good idea!--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]
:All right, then ask [[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] about it. Earlier, [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] made the same change you did, and then [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:The_Stick&diff=179428&oldid=179417 reverted it] just a few minutes later. I got the feeling he chatted with someone about it and was told to remove it. I could be wrong, but you should find out. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:28, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== signatures ==
ok, i'm in the process of designing my signature. i'm almost done, but i've run into two snags. the first one is, the M is supposed to link to my user talk, but it doesn't link. the second is that the timestamp is all screwed up to where it comes up under the comment in a quote. if anyone knows what i'm doing wrong, please fix it at http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:DJ_Teh_Cheat/sig .
and, the first problem is fixed at the actual sig page, but it doesn't work when i use it anywhere else. --{{User:DJ Teh Cheat/sig}} 23:01, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

ok, i fixed the first problem. nevermind on that one. now i just need to figure out how to fix the timestamp. --{{User:DJ Teh Cheat/sig}} 23:03, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

== New commitee ==

Mabye we could have a merging comittee so we can take all the small pages and make them into larger pages.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 02:52, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

:No. It's too easy for that to be a commitee. We're going merging overboard.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 02:56, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

or mabye an info gathering commitee.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 03:02, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
:I dunno, that might be a good idea, but like Bkmlb said, it's so easy... I dunno. I guess I should shut up then. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:04, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
I personally don't see any need for a committee with such a limited charter. Would that committee go around merging articles until they're all on one big page? And there's nothing inherently wrong with small articles. Sometimes there's just not a lot to say about a subject, even though it's important. If the content or theme of several articles is very similar and the likelihood of cross-referencing is high ''and'' the articles themselves are quite small, then they ''might'' should be merged; otherwise, articles should remain on their own pages, no matter their size. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:14, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

== Sprucing Up ==

Hi, I never really liked the stick to look plain looking, so I figured I'd spruce it up a little, following the [[HRWiki:Introduction]] style. I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&diff=225826&oldid=225822 made] a preview on the Sandbox and applied it. I had [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&diff=225821&oldid=225820 also] tried a version that would be part of the introduction but the title is too wide even for 1024x768 and I'm not sure it quite belongs there. If you guys don't like it feel free to revert. One thing is left to be done though. In order to eliminate [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&diff=225822&oldid=225821 ugly] whitespace around the quick menu, I removed the border and couldn't make it transparent. I'll leave that one to the XHTML gurus. One thing I really wanted to do was to make the quick links div be its own [[HRWiki:The_Stick/quick_menu|template]] which would look nicer in the stick page (easier to understand) and also could be used by users in their user page if they so desire. The quick menu itself could probably be reorganized a little (group things and use horiz lines to divide these groups) in order to make things a little "quicker" --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:25, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

:Nice work, Stux! There's just one problem. Part of The Cheat's head has been cut off by the quick menu. It really bugs me. Other than that, great! {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:16, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
::Thanks! What resolution are you running at? i'm using 1024x768 and the quick menu is far enough away to interfere. I can only guess you're running at <s>800x600</s> 640x480. I tried at 800x600 and it looks fine too. If that's the case i don't think there's much that can be done. :( I don't know what else could be causing it. (Do you see artifacts in the [[HRWiki:Introduction]] pages?) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:41, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Well, I've added some extra spaces to the text and the page looks fine now. The Cheat is 100%! Also, I'm actually running at 1280x1024 and I don't notice anything wrong with the introduction pages. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:54, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh! That makes sense now. I hadn't thought of that. Thanks! Yeah you won't find any problems with the intro pages at 1280x1024, only 800x600 and below. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:01, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Sorry The Chort, but I liked the divisions too much after reorganizing the quick menu. You may need to add more spaces or something to make it work on 1280x1024. I'll check it out once I get back to the lab -- after Jan 9th that is. I hope the new quick menu look is still good. :) Happy New Year all! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:44, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::Well, if we can't add extra spaces to the page, what can we do? It's really irritating that most of The Cheat's head is cut off. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:25, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&diff=227791&oldid=227621 Flesh things out]? Only if people like it and it's useful. Well at least if ppl like it ok. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:27, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

== Italics in '''Appearances''' sections ==

Does anyone recall the rationale for italicizing all the descriptions in an '''Appearances''' section? I couldn't find anything about this on the [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]] page. They seem like an unnecessary hassle for writers and editors to deal with, and can become overbearing on pages that have a lot of Appearances. I especially noticed this on [[Pie]] when I wanted to italicize ''TV Time'' Magazine. What if we just formatted all Appearances normally? The em dashes are more than sufficient to provide a clean seaparation between each title and description. {{User:Bill/sig}} 18:20, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

: Note also a very different format used in [[Twin Characters]]. Is there a standard documented somewhere? {{User:Bill/sig}} 19:23, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
::[[The Geddup Noise|Probably not]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:45, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
I think italics are dreadful to try and read in large doses, but I, too, don't know where or whether this has been discussed. In the meantime, I have been [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Powered_by_The_Cheat&diff=prev&oldid=225586 putting them back] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Lack_of_Visible_Arms&diff=prev&oldid=220265 into regular formatting] whenever I've noticed someone change them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:25, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, now that I think about it I do vaguely remember reading a discussion very similar to this one. And i think it had been decided that it would be good to not keep italics. It may not have been with appearances but it was with a similar thing. I think E.L.Cool participated in it. He's the only person I can think of that could know. Maybe we can ask him? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:52, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

== protect ==

Shouldn't you protect this page?? {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:This has been discussed on this talk page already. The agreement was no. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:56, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== CSS, I think ==

The background image of The cheat, where is that defined?
I see the code 
<nowiki>
<div style="border:3px solid #B3FF00;padding:.5em 1em 1em 1em;border-top:none;color:000" class="IntroPageBox">
</nowiki>
 
but where are the attributes of ''IntroPageBox'' defined. Is it CSS document? I would like to look at the code to get a better understanding of how the page is contructed and possibly even develop one of my own for a different page or at the very least, mess around in the sandbox a little.
{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:41, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:Try [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 21:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

==what happened?==
i remember that a link to a page with a homestar parory song called"all your base are belong to us"used to be on the site and i can't find it,plz put it back on or explain where it is
ty
:May I direct your attention to [[User: Has Matt?|Has Matt's user page?]] {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:52, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

== Why is the stick so good for hanging out at? ==

I just don't understand, it does'nt make sense to me. What is there to do at the stick?-ken

:See [[origins]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:18, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

It's an awesome e-mail, but it didnt explain anything. sorry man.-ken

:Maybe see [[FAQ]]? And I know, the first reply didn't make alot of sense either. I just don't really have a good answer for you. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:30, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

yeah thunda, it is a pretty stupid question even, but like does it ever grow? I bet because its a STICK strong mad got ticked and shoved it in the ground er somthing.

:You could also try [[Email]]ing The Brothers Chaps. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:36, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

good idea, but it was already an e-mail.-ken

:That was an email to Strong Bad. The Brothers' Chaps might answer your questions directly. I once emailed about the answer to the Jumble in [[caper]] (before I knew about the wiki), and they replied with the answer; Une Taco. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:40, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

do they give you spam?
and do you come here often?
I don't even have an account-ken

:No spam (unless you count [[unused emails|Bubs' weekly spamvertisements]]), and yes I come here often. I'm an [[HRWiki:Administrators|admin]] here. See [[User:Thunderbird L17|here]] for further info. And if you dont' have an account yet, I would highly reccoment [[Special:Userlogin|signing up]]. It's quick, free, and painless. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:45, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

cool, cool, mysterious, cool. But do I need an e-mail address, and will the wiki e-mail me thanking me for joining, and will I need to log on a certain amout of times in a month or anything?-ken

:Email is optional, the wiki won't email you even if you do give them your address, unless you request a password reminder. Somebody will welcome you on your talk page though, and an account stays forever, regardless of how much or little you sign in for. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:50, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

is there an age limit?-ken

:Over 95 are not allowed to join, and under a year and a half are also disallowed. Besides that, the [[Pie]]'s the limit. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:55, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

and what are the limits to insulting stuff, because there was some stuff i did when I went into homsar, you will see it in discussions. tell me to delete it if it is too mean-ken

:You can make general complaints on the [[HRWiki:IRC channel|chat channel]]. Personal attacks, however, are not tolerated. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:59, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

:'''EDIT CONFLICT:''' I saw it [[Talk:homsar|here]], it was kind of insulting, but if you're usually not like that you'll be okay. Debate is allowed, but not outright personal attacks, foul language, or obviously insulting comments. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:02, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

sorry, i'll delete i guess, say, I got my account!!-ken

:Welcome to the wiki Ken. I'd reccomend [[User:Ken|creating]] a [[HRWiki:User space|user space]]. And if you want to sign your comments, type four of these: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Welcome again. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:06, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

thanks man [[User:Ken|Ken]] 04:06, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

but should I delete it at homsar? [[User:Ken|Ken]] 04:08, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

:I wouldn't worry about it. You can if you want though. Nobody really looks there too often anyways. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:09, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

cool, now I don't need to take that weird test with the letters, was that a drunk test? [[User:Ken|Ken]] 04:10, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

:It's a test to make sure you're a human and not a computer program. We've had problems in the past with those, they can automatically vandalize hundreds of pages in mere minutes. See [[HRWiki:A History#NSMC|here]] for more info about why we started Captcha (the letters and numbers pictures) in the first place. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:13, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

yeah sorry, that was a stupid question anyway[[User:Ken|Ken]] 04:18, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

:Naw, it's a valid question. And as a side point, through this conversation do you understand why The Stick is such a great place to hang out? That's what we've been doing for the past 10 minutes. It's a great place for that kind of thing. :) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:20, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

sure.[[User:Ken|Ken]] 04:24, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

:Btw, if you like chatting with Homestar Runner fans, [[HRWiki:IRC channel|here]]'s the place to go. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:25, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

sorry, not the chat room kind. g2g, and thanks for all the help, i'll be on tommorrow. :) [[User:Ken|Ken]] 04:27, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

:No problem. Seya around Ken. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:29, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

== .Ogg sounds ==

It feels weird having [[The Geddup Noise|an article about a sound]] without a download of the sound. I've have an .ogg file from [[geddup noise]] as well as "Chairscoot", "Way-o Way-o", "The Standing-up Noise" and "The Get Outcha Seat sound". Is this kind of thing considered kosher on the Wiki? {{unsigned|No Parking|01:46, 8 June 2006}}

== The Background ==

Can we change the The Cheat Background just as we did with the main page background? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 22:33, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
:Why does this even need The Cheat? Can't we just put a background image of The Stick? Wouldn't that be the tiniest bit more relevant? :P — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
::I kind of think it's difficult to find links on this page and that it could be organized a little better. In fact, I've already started work on a [[User:It's dot com/The Stick makeover|new design]]. Comments on the [[User talk:It's dot com/The Stick makeover|talk page]] are welcome. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:13, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

== reference ==

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/email/

Oh, the lulz. - [[User:24.222.172.137|24.222.172.137]] 14:08, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

==What cartoon is this?==

I seem to recall a Strong Bad Email or something like that where Strong Bad says "now in HD". If I'm mistaken, it may have been a Simpsons episode. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 06:02, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
:[[long pants]] is what you are looking for {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 06:06, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

::Thanks. I also recall a cartoon where Homestar asks Strong bad what he's doing, only he pronounces "doing" to rhyme with "boing". When Strong Bad corrects him and says "what your looking for is do-ing", Homestar says "yeah, but they're spelled the same". [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 21:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

:::That would be [[car]], as you can find from a simple [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=boing&fulltext=Search search].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:14, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

::::I'm sorry. I'd already tried that. I didn't try searching for "boing" before. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 20:52, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::No probalo. Sometimes you have to be a bit creative with the search — especially if you only remember parts of a quote ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:46, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

== External community groups? ==

Tell me if this already exists somewhere else or if it's just a bad idea altogether. I'm interested in finding places where our community has grouped together (created sub-communities) on other community sites. The [http://www.frappr.com/homestarrunnerwiki Frapper map] is the perfect example of this, but I recently discovered a fledgling [http://www.last.fm/group/Homestar+Runner+Wiki.fm last.fm group]. I'm thinking The Stick (our community portal) is the right place to gather and document this stuff, but I worry about simply opening the floodgates. We'd have to come up with guidelines as to what sort of communities could be included in such a listing. What do you think? — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 03:33, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
:Are you talking about listing opportunites to meet and socialize with other HRWikiers in some fashion (be it sharing on Frappr, meeting in an online community, etc.) or something else? I think that might be an effective way to divert some of the social interaction that tends to clutter at times, leaving the wiki free to be a workspace. (Of course, we cannot {and should not} entirely divorce the social atmosphere - but mere chatty/social interaction could be encouraged this way without interfering with the task at hand.) {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:44, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
::I agree with Qermaq, listing these places is not only helpful for individual members, but it might also make the wiki a more efficient place. As a threshold, we could list groups that seem currently active with at least five or so members. Should we only consider sites as JoeyDay originally proposed or should we include other places as well, such as [irc://irc.freenode.net/hrwiki IRC]?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:16, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
:::Qermaq, yeah, places where hrwikiers can congregate outside the halls of knowledge-basedom. I pretty much just wanna have friends. I belong to a lot of social networks like del.icio.us and Flickr where I haven't met or interacted with a whole lot of people. So I pretty much just wanna know where the friends I already have are hanging out so I can hang out with them. Is there a MySpace group for hrwikiers, for instance? Beats me. It probably wouldn't be hard to find out, but it'd be convenient to have a list of all the hrwiki groups that exist within other social networks for quick reference. Loafing, I'd say the IRC channel is a sub-group of a separate social networking site, namely Freenode, so it would qualify for the list as I've proposed it, but individual listings would be up to the consensus of the group or some predetermined body of standards. The Homestar Runner Network (if it ever gets off the ground) will probably allow for the formation of member groups, and since it's a separate site, it would also qualify for inclusion in this list if a Homestar Runner Wiki group were formed there. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 04:32, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Sounds like a good idea. I'm not sure how many sites we could or should use this for. But I'm not sure how much this will make the wiki more productive. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 04:34, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::Well, that depends on your idea of productive. Currently, when overly chatty Talk exchanges interfere, we point to the Forum and that's all we have. But what if there was a wealth of social opportunity available? What if you could work on the wiki here AND chat with your new friends there? That's worth pursuit. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:39, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::When you put it that way, lets go for it! Anybody have any site ideas? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 04:41, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Re: the HRN, well let's get it in the air! What needs to be done? And yes, IRC is already a great place to start, that must be included. What you propose sounds extremely resonable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:37, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, the easiest way to find social sites with HRWiki communities is... to make one! I didn't just find out that Frappr had an HRWiki community and gathered them all to one place. I created it and people started signing up. Want an official MySpace page for HRWiki? Make one and people will come. Heck, even I, that don't have an account there, will only create one for that purpose of being listed. And yes, I'm all for including them here as long as they are official. By that I mean that they are either approved by you Joey, an admin or a sysop, and cannot be a duplicate of another community (like another forum or another Frappr group). {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:59, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
:I don't know why it needs to be "official". We would just document existing external communities, not endorse them, anyway. Or would we? That would require extra work for us with monitoring etc. And I'm not so sure about the duplicates either. If there is another active forum of hrwiki members, then why not mention it? They might have all kinds of different reasons to go separately.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:27, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
::Cf. the Sightings pages. We don't necessarily want this to become a free-for-all. Some sense of vetting is probably in order, if only to alert the reader what kind of experiance they are in for. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:11, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
:::I was tempted to make a Myspace HRWiki page and announce, but I didn't want the hassle of having to manage it. Other than that I think it's a good idea -- I'd be it's ''friend''. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:44, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
::::There is a [http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupProfile&groupID=102551726 Homestar Runner Wiki group] that Myspace users can join. With such a group in existence, there's no need to create an actual user called HRWiki. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:53, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::Actual users are so much more fun (you can put songs! like [[Circles]]), and I don't recognize anyone I know in it. I did add myself though. I'm the Linux Book. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:24, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

== Makeover ==

:''See [[User:It's dot com/The Stick makeover]]''
I think this page could be reorganized to make it easier to use. I propose the format linked to above. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:15, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
:Like I said before, it's been growing on me. How come there are none of the [[:Category:HRWiki_Committees|committees]] listed in the quick menu? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
::Well, there was talk of [[HRWiki_talk:Welcoming_committee#Necessity|getting rid]] of the committees, but even if we did that, there is still useful information on those pages, so I put the links back. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

== Protect ==

I think we should protect this page. Like the [[Main Page]] so nobody can vandal it. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:The_Stick&diff=421454&oldid=412550 Like this?] Nobody has vandalized this page since February. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:54, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe because it's protected since February?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 13:55, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I think that's probably why. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:57, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Ouch, I should have followed your link... I was trying to be sarcastic, not noticing that you had actually said that it was protected. That'll teach me not to edit at 2am :-/{{User:Loafing/sig}} 13:59, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::You don't need sleep. Can you say "overrated"? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 14:01, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

==Unnessecary pages?==
I've been noticing people that say that "Does {subject of page} really need an article of it's own? And he reply seems to be "It's something on the HR universe, and it's something worth noting". I think that some things dont really need thair own page (Like [[Typing Tutor Turbo]],[[Gross Old Wig]], [[Trophy Lights]]), but these things do need to be noted, so why not make a sort of 'minor/one-use object list' that is just a list of the things that are not 'important in a large sense' but are still relevant to the HR universe. For example, using the ones I listed, would look like this (Sorry for size, i dont know how to shrink it):

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Image !! Appearances !! Information
|- id="gross_old_wig"
| [[Image:Gross_old_wig.png|220px|Nasty too]] || Email [[time capsule]] || The '''Gross Old Wig''' was seen in the email [[time capsule]]. [[Homestar Runner]] once asked [[Strong Bad]] if he could put the Gross Old Wig in his "time machine." Homestar's motives for putting it in the [[The Time Capsule|time capsule]] are both "because it was gross and nasty and old and [he] didn't want it", as well as "so all the future peoples would know [he] had a gross old wig."

However, Strong Bad refused Homestar's request, stating that the time capsule was not a trash capsule. Homestar instead put the Gross Old Wig in a [[Freshley's]] "time box," where, in the year [[20X6]], it will be discovered by [[1-Up]].

It should be noted that this is one of the times when the nature of [[Lack of Visible Arms|Homestar's arms]] comes into debate, as he appears to be holding both the box and its lid, as well as the wig - a task that would normally require the use of not two but three arms.
|- id="trophy lights"
| [[Image:Trophy lights.PNG|220px|Cheating on his New Year's Resolution.]] || [[Where's The Cheat?]] || '''[[Trophy]] Lights''' are apparently [[The Cheat]]'s preferred brand of [[Smoking|cigarettes]]. While searching for The Cheat in [[Where's The Cheat?]], [[Strong Bad]] visits [[Coach Z]] at the [[Coach Z's Locker Room|locker room]]. Upon searching the locker that Coach Z claims he has found The Cheat sleeping in from time to time, Strong Bad finds evidence that The Cheat had been cheating on his New Year's resolution (presumably to quit smoking) in the form of a pack of Trophy Lights. Strong Bad, however, does not blame The Cheat for cheating, because, after all, he ''is'' The Cheat.
|- id="tuping_tutor_turbo"
| [[Image:KoT Typing.PNG|220px|"How many WPMs can ''you'' get up to?"]] || Email [[the bet]] Email [[garage sale]] (Jr.)|| '''Typing Tutor Turbo''' is a [[stand-up arcade game]] that apparently helps you learn to type, despite the fact that it has no keyboard. [[The King of Town]] owns this game, and [[Strong Bad]] used it to crush him. It is almost exactly like the game [[QWERTY]], except it has a ship that you use to shoot words to accumulate "WPMs" ("that's words per minute, you know"). There is a PC version of the game called "[[Floppy Disk Container#typing tutor jr|Typing Tutor Jr.]]" that Strong Bad put up for sale with a price tag of $23 in his [[garage sale]].

|}

While I stole the table from the floppy disk container, I think that putting one page with all of this on it would really help. Then just put redirects for the old pages. If this should be somewhere else go ahead and put it there. Please tell me what you think of this.--[[User:74.135.7.26|74.135.7.26]] 22:35, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

:Most people don't know it, mainly the newer folk or the ones who never looked trough histories, but there [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=prev&oldid=420 used to be] a Rejects page with a similar concept of what you just suggested. It was deleted and all the minor stuff got their own page. Every once in a while someone who doesn't know that fact comes out and post an idea like that. Well, first of all [[Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_paper_encyclopedia|HRWiki is not a paper knowledge base]], and because of that we do not try to "save on pages" or "save space". Since it's a wiki every small item and minor character can have it's own spotlight. Not to mention how much less conversations it will save on what to include or not in these "minor" pages. Is the [[Yello Dello]] minor? It only appeared in one toon and had one line. Think this through. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 23:00, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
::I was talking of more like it would give a short description, with longer ones on individual pages/grouped pages. Or possibly grouped pages with ones that are relevant to one subject, or an approxamate time when they occured. I didn't feel like redoing the info on those, so i just cut/pasted the current info. --[[User:74.135.7.26|74.135.7.26]] 23:03, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
:::That's why we have the [[Items]] page (it should really be updated. Really). It lists every item with a recognizable image along with it. Putting a summary on everything will just made excruciatingly long. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 23:15, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
::74.135.7.26: What would be the practical advantage of grouping these items as opposed to keeping them on their own pages? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:30, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
:::(i got a username now) Well, it would be useful not to save space so much as to keeping things organized. While it does make some sense to have them on their own page, such as less clutter on one page, its that if is useful to keep minor things grouped together, so like certain things that are relevant to each other are shown together. Also, it will help create a "chronology" of sorts, if you will. It gives it a greater sense of ''where'' and ''when'' certain things happen, both in real time and in HR time. Like if you wanted to see what the Gross Old Wig was, you could see other small props, whih show what sort of things happened at the time. Such as the Prawns (Although I'm not sure if Prawns have a page), you could se that it has some 20X6 meaning, along with Stinkoman's beloved prawns, and it would help by being able to show the relation of one thing to another. It would also be great for those short running gags, such as Strong sad as a "Email police", and you would see that ugly octopus smacking SS's face. So it's mostly to give better presentation of things that seem relatively pointless without. --[[User:Healthy Sam|Healthy Sam]] 03:02, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

== Dead-End Pages ==

What's the point of [[Special:Deadendpages|Dead-end pages]]? Every time I check it, there's nothing there! {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 18:05, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
:That's a good thing! As that page says, it lists all "pages (that) do not link to other pages in this wiki." Dead-end pages should not exist, and this special page is a tool to help us find and fix them. So if it doesn't list any pages, everything's good. It's a very similar idea to [[Special:Lonelypages|Orphaned pages]] which sadly does list three articles at the moment.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 18:17, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
::Oh okay. By the time of this comment there are only two orphaned articles. {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:54, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

== Wanted Pages ==

After about 15 minutes of trying to unlink all illegitimate 'wanted pages,' all of the edits were reverted. The situation now begs the question: If we aren't going to let 'wanted pages' do what we intend, why do we still have it? As it currently is the wanted page is overrun with links to articles that people propose in jest, or to specifically show irrationality on a Talk Page. Is there anyway we can make 'wanted pages' a useful project, and if not, why do we still have it? — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 02:25, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:We never intended [[Special:Wantedpages]] to do anything. It's designed for use with a very large wiki like Wikipedia and comes standard with the software. It can be useful on our wiki to find where we've made an error in linking to a legitimate page (as you've seen when you fixed those links), and we even have a bona fide wanted page in the list (The Lucky Yates Show). I increased the threshold to 3 links for a page to show up on the list. Is that an improvement? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:28, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::In fact, a huge improvement. It'll help us weed out rhetorical redlinks and user testlinks. Thanks one million — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 17:35, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:::So, I was thinking the other day about this issue, and it seems that have a certain number isn't necessarily an improvement, ''however'' limiting the Wanted Pages to the Mainspace would be actually using this section as a useful project. Not sure if we can do that, but if we can it would be perfect. — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 00:35, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
::::As of this writing, there are 13 entries on the page. Using your local filter (aka your brain) to find the mainspace pages would be a lot faster than trying to code any kind of software solution. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:50, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

==how?==
how do i become a sysop,beurocrat,ect...?--[[User:Wichesbrew82|Wichesbrew82]] 03:22, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
:Bureaucrats alone have the ability to grant and revoke sysop and bureaucrat status upon users. — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 03:33, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
::See my [[User:Qermaq#How to become a sysop good user|talk page]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
:::And also the [[HRWiki:FAQ#How do I become an admin or sysop?|FAQ]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:37, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

==msg==
i just made a userbox and it said {{{msg}}}. what does that mean?--{{User:Wichesbrew82/sig}} 04:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:"msg" is the code for the message. For example, the part that says "This user likes '''[[Strong Bad]]'''. If <code>msg=</code> is left blank, <code>{{{msg}}}</code> will appear in the place where the text usually goes. Also, this kind of question would be better suited for the [[HRWiki:FAQ|FAQ]] or the [[HRWiki talk:Userboxes|project's talk page]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:24, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

== Scrambled?Titles? ==

I!have!to!do!this!to!avoid!scrambles!!It!seems!titles!all!over!the!site!have!been!scrambled!up,!even!the!donation!thing!at!the!top.
([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 04:30, 1 April 2008 (UTC))

Great, every thing's major scrambled.

SOMETHING!IS!MESSED!UP!

([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 04:31, 1 April 2008 (UTC))

:What do you mean? Everything looks fine to me. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:34, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:: Yeah, man, go with the flow... everything is groovy. I don't get your problem, man... {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 04:35, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:Dude, what are you talking about? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:36, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

http://kupax.com/view/full/300_2vxio
This.is.what.I.see...Look.at.the.words..

April.Fools.LOL? ([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 04:52, 1 April 2008 (UTC))

:No, no. You must all be infected. Go get yourselves tested before it's too late! — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:55, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

::WhatFor?TheCootieVirus?AlreadyGotThose,Thanks. ([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 04:59, 1 April 2008 (UTC))
::WaitAMinute,IThinkThisHasBeenDoneBefore....>:(([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 05:06, 1 April 2008 (UTC))

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==legitimate screenshots==
does anybody know how to get decent screenshots? when i press "print screen", all it does is copy an image to my clipboard, which i can't get off and into a saved file for the life of me.

and sorry i'm not signed in, i'm in the process of changing my [[HRWiki:Changing_username|changing my username]]
-i know. can you believe it?/DJ Teh Cheat

:Doozey of a new name, DJ. I prefer [http://www.irfanview Irfanview] as an image editor—low memory profile, doesn't try to be Photoshop when all you need is to convert or crop. Anyway,
#do your "print screen" thing—yes, it will put it on the clipboard;
#open your preferred editor;
#hit "paste." Voila! Then save, preferably as PNG. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:19, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

grazie. or.. gratzie. or.. whatever. god bless photoshop.
-[[User:DJ Teh Cheat|DJ Teh Cheat]]

== Under Construction ==

This is under extensive construction, but it should eventually be something similar to Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Community portal|community portal]]. If you have suggestions or ideas, feel free to help us improve it. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 15:31, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

== Screenshot ==

Thinkin' we need a screenshot of [[The Stick]] here. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

I'ma try and get one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:26, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

:Done.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:29, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

::Aw! I wanted to do a whole new one, from [[the bird]], but oh well. (I had it all ready to be uploaded too...) --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

:::could you email the pic to me acekirby13 (P.S. My email is at my user page)[[User:Pertmywert|Joel]]|[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]

== Thumbnail ==

The thumbnail we have of The Stick seems to be overlapping the background image of The Stick on the page. We should remove the thumbnail; the page looks better without it anyway (in my opinion, of course). --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

:If you're using a [http://www.getfirefox.com browser that can properly interpret CSS], the page is elongated to eliminate the overlap. Once the page has more information on it, this will no longer be a problem. I suppose we could remove the thumbnail in the meantime... — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:40, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

== Now you see me, and now you don't. ==
The Stick isn't always in the navigation panel. I'm not sure if it's for certain pages or just random. If it's for certain pages I'll give an example soon. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 21:07, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Example: [[The Halloween House]]. (This one seems to not have The Stick in navigation.) [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 21:10, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

(Edit Conflict- My Reply)
:It isn't? That's odd. It always is for me (unless I haven't noticed it). Maybe you should take this up with the mods. [[User:Tom|Tom]] and [[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] are good with Wiki glitches. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 21:11, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

:Try a hard refresh. (Ctrl+F5). That usually fixes things up with me. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

::By the way, when I go to [[The Halloween House]], I can still see The Stick in the navigation. As suggested above, try a Hard Refresh. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 21:14, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

::Nope, that hard refresh thing's not working. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 21:16, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

:::Try clearing your cache completely. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 21:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

::::Okay, so far I'm not having the problem anymore. That must've been it. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 21:20, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

== New Committees ==

Is it alright if we start new committees? -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:38, 10 May 2005 (PDT)

:Talk it over with [[User:JoeyDay|Joey]] first. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

==Protection==
Do you guys think HRWiki:The Stick is worth protecting?-[[User:Gordon 584|'''^Gordon^''']]

I do. Like the main page, this is rarely changed. This deserves protection much more than the main page, in my opinion. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:30, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I disagree with your last point, Rogue. The main page is the most visited page on the site. The Stick is not. The only reason why this page should possibly be protected is because it isn't changed much. It is one of the most trolled pages on the site because it is the first editable page linked on the sidebar. I don't think protecting it would help much, because trolls would simply move on to H*R.com updates and Strong Bad Email. Besides, trolling at the stick is usually reverted pretty quickly. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:37, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::So were the Main Page edits. Look at The Stick's history. Most them are trolling edits. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:43, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::I didn't say I strongly oppose protecting this page. From the perspective of the wiki as a whole, it wouldn't do much. But I guess that's the wrong perspective. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:48, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::I strongly oppose protecting it. See [[HRWiki_talk:About#Protect.3F|my arguments here]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:51, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I agree that no page is 100% perfect, but this page is one of the most trolled pages on the wiki. If this page is edited, chances are that it is a defacement. And please tell me why this page would need to be edited. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 02:01, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Users should be allowed to add stuff to the Stick if they come up with a useful tool or committee or something. Trolling isn't that hard to revert, and protection is against the wiki way. Like Joe said, the trolls would just move on to H*R.com updates and Strong Bad Email (which ''can't'' be protected). {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 02:04, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Ok, I concede. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 02:07, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Pledge Drive ==

The Pledge Drive is a good idea!--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]
:All right, then ask [[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] about it. Earlier, [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] made the same change you did, and then [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:The_Stick&diff=179428&oldid=179417 reverted it] just a few minutes later. I got the feeling he chatted with someone about it and was told to remove it. I could be wrong, but you should find out. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:28, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== signatures ==
ok, i'm in the process of designing my signature. i'm almost done, but i've run into two snags. the first one is, the M is supposed to link to my user talk, but it doesn't link. the second is that the timestamp is all screwed up to where it comes up under the comment in a quote. if anyone knows what i'm doing wrong, please fix it at http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:DJ_Teh_Cheat/sig .
and, the first problem is fixed at the actual sig page, but it doesn't work when i use it anywhere else. --{{User:DJ Teh Cheat/sig}} 23:01, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

ok, i fixed the first problem. nevermind on that one. now i just need to figure out how to fix the timestamp. --{{User:DJ Teh Cheat/sig}} 23:03, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

== New commitee ==

Mabye we could have a merging comittee so we can take all the small pages and make them into larger pages.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 02:52, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

:No. It's too easy for that to be a commitee. We're going merging overboard.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 02:56, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

or mabye an info gathering commitee.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 03:02, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
:I dunno, that might be a good idea, but like Bkmlb said, it's so easy... I dunno. I guess I should shut up then. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:04, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
I personally don't see any need for a committee with such a limited charter. Would that committee go around merging articles until they're all on one big page? And there's nothing inherently wrong with small articles. Sometimes there's just not a lot to say about a subject, even though it's important. If the content or theme of several articles is very similar and the likelihood of cross-referencing is high ''and'' the articles themselves are quite small, then they ''might'' should be merged; otherwise, articles should remain on their own pages, no matter their size. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:14, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

== Sprucing Up ==

Hi, I never really liked the stick to look plain looking, so I figured I'd spruce it up a little, following the [[HRWiki:Introduction]] style. I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&diff=225826&oldid=225822 made] a preview on the Sandbox and applied it. I had [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&diff=225821&oldid=225820 also] tried a version that would be part of the introduction but the title is too wide even for 1024x768 and I'm not sure it quite belongs there. If you guys don't like it feel free to revert. One thing is left to be done though. In order to eliminate [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&diff=225822&oldid=225821 ugly] whitespace around the quick menu, I removed the border and couldn't make it transparent. I'll leave that one to the XHTML gurus. One thing I really wanted to do was to make the quick links div be its own [[HRWiki:The_Stick/quick_menu|template]] which would look nicer in the stick page (easier to understand) and also could be used by users in their user page if they so desire. The quick menu itself could probably be reorganized a little (group things and use horiz lines to divide these groups) in order to make things a little "quicker" --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:25, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

:Nice work, Stux! There's just one problem. Part of The Cheat's head has been cut off by the quick menu. It really bugs me. Other than that, great! {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:16, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
::Thanks! What resolution are you running at? i'm using 1024x768 and the quick menu is far enough away to interfere. I can only guess you're running at <s>800x600</s> 640x480. I tried at 800x600 and it looks fine too. If that's the case i don't think there's much that can be done. :( I don't know what else could be causing it. (Do you see artifacts in the [[HRWiki:Introduction]] pages?) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:41, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Well, I've added some extra spaces to the text and the page looks fine now. The Cheat is 100%! Also, I'm actually running at 1280x1024 and I don't notice anything wrong with the introduction pages. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:54, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh! That makes sense now. I hadn't thought of that. Thanks! Yeah you won't find any problems with the intro pages at 1280x1024, only 800x600 and below. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:01, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Sorry The Chort, but I liked the divisions too much after reorganizing the quick menu. You may need to add more spaces or something to make it work on 1280x1024. I'll check it out once I get back to the lab -- after Jan 9th that is. I hope the new quick menu look is still good. :) Happy New Year all! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:44, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::Well, if we can't add extra spaces to the page, what can we do? It's really irritating that most of The Cheat's head is cut off. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:25, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&diff=227791&oldid=227621 Flesh things out]? Only if people like it and it's useful. Well at least if ppl like it ok. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:27, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

== Italics in '''Appearances''' sections ==

Does anyone recall the rationale for italicizing all the descriptions in an '''Appearances''' section? I couldn't find anything about this on the [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]] page. They seem like an unnecessary hassle for writers and editors to deal with, and can become overbearing on pages that have a lot of Appearances. I especially noticed this on [[Pie]] when I wanted to italicize ''TV Time'' Magazine. What if we just formatted all Appearances normally? The em dashes are more than sufficient to provide a clean seaparation between each title and description. {{User:Bill/sig}} 18:20, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

: Note also a very different format used in [[Twin Characters]]. Is there a standard documented somewhere? {{User:Bill/sig}} 19:23, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
::[[The Geddup Noise|Probably not]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:45, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
I think italics are dreadful to try and read in large doses, but I, too, don't know where or whether this has been discussed. In the meantime, I have been [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Powered_by_The_Cheat&diff=prev&oldid=225586 putting them back] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Lack_of_Visible_Arms&diff=prev&oldid=220265 into regular formatting] whenever I've noticed someone change them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:25, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, now that I think about it I do vaguely remember reading a discussion very similar to this one. And i think it had been decided that it would be good to not keep italics. It may not have been with appearances but it was with a similar thing. I think E.L.Cool participated in it. He's the only person I can think of that could know. Maybe we can ask him? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:52, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

== protect ==

Shouldn't you protect this page?? {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:This has been discussed on this talk page already. The agreement was no. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:56, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== CSS, I think ==

The background image of The cheat, where is that defined?
I see the code 
<nowiki>
<div style="border:3px solid #B3FF00;padding:.5em 1em 1em 1em;border-top:none;color:000" class="IntroPageBox">
</nowiki>
 
but where are the attributes of ''IntroPageBox'' defined. Is it CSS document? I would like to look at the code to get a better understanding of how the page is contructed and possibly even develop one of my own for a different page or at the very least, mess around in the sandbox a little.
{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:41, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:Try [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 21:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

==what happened?==
i remember that a link to a page with a homestar parory song called"all your base are belong to us"used to be on the site and i can't find it,plz put it back on or explain where it is
ty
:May I direct your attention to [[User: Has Matt?|Has Matt's user page?]] {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:52, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

== Why is the stick so good for hanging out at? ==

I just don't understand, it does'nt make sense to me. What is there to do at the stick?-ken

:See [[origins]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:18, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

It's an awesome e-mail, but it didnt explain anything. sorry man.-ken

:Maybe see [[FAQ]]? And I know, the first reply didn't make alot of sense either. I just don't really have a good answer for you. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:30, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

yeah thunda, it is a pretty stupid question even, but like does it ever grow? I bet because its a STICK strong mad got ticked and shoved it in the ground er somthing.

:You could also try [[Email]]ing The Brothers Chaps. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:36, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

good idea, but it was already an e-mail.-ken

:That was an email to Strong Bad. The Brothers' Chaps might answer your questions directly. I once emailed about the answer to the Jumble in [[caper]] (before I knew about the wiki), and they replied with the answer; Une Taco. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:40, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

do they give you spam?
and do you come here often?
I don't even have an account-ken

:No spam (unless you count [[unused emails|Bubs' weekly spamvertisements]]), and yes I come here often. I'm an [[HRWiki:Administrators|admin]] here. See [[User:Thunderbird L17|here]] for further info. And if you dont' have an account yet, I would highly reccoment [[Special:Userlogin|signing up]]. It's quick, free, and painless. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:45, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

cool, cool, mysterious, cool. But do I need an e-mail address, and will the wiki e-mail me thanking me for joining, and will I need to log on a certain amout of times in a month or anything?-ken

:Email is optional, the wiki won't email you even if you do give them your address, unless you request a password reminder. Somebody will welcome you on your talk page though, and an account stays forever, regardless of how much or little you sign in for. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:50, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

is there an age limit?-ken

:Over 95 are not allowed to join, and under a year and a half are also disallowed. Besides that, the [[Pie]]'s the limit. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:55, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

and what are the limits to insulting stuff, because there was some stuff i did when I went into homsar, you will see it in discussions. tell me to delete it if it is too mean-ken

:You can make general complaints on the [[HRWiki:IRC channel|chat channel]]. Personal attacks, however, are not tolerated. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:59, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

:'''EDIT CONFLICT:''' I saw it [[Talk:homsar|here]], it was kind of insulting, but if you're usually not like that you'll be okay. Debate is allowed, but not outright personal attacks, foul language, or obviously insulting comments. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:02, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

sorry, i'll delete i guess, say, I got my account!!-ken

:Welcome to the wiki Ken. I'd reccomend [[User:Ken|creating]] a [[HRWiki:User space|user space]]. And if you want to sign your comments, type four of these: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Welcome again. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:06, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

thanks man [[User:Ken|Ken]] 04:06, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

but should I delete it at homsar? [[User:Ken|Ken]] 04:08, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

:I wouldn't worry about it. You can if you want though. Nobody really looks there too often anyways. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:09, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

cool, now I don't need to take that weird test with the letters, was that a drunk test? [[User:Ken|Ken]] 04:10, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

:It's a test to make sure you're a human and not a computer program. We've had problems in the past with those, they can automatically vandalize hundreds of pages in mere minutes. See [[HRWiki:A History#NSMC|here]] for more info about why we started Captcha (the letters and numbers pictures) in the first place. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:13, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

yeah sorry, that was a stupid question anyway[[User:Ken|Ken]] 04:18, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

:Naw, it's a valid question. And as a side point, through this conversation do you understand why The Stick is such a great place to hang out? That's what we've been doing for the past 10 minutes. It's a great place for that kind of thing. :) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:20, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

sure.[[User:Ken|Ken]] 04:24, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

:Btw, if you like chatting with Homestar Runner fans, [[HRWiki:IRC channel|here]]'s the place to go. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:25, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

sorry, not the chat room kind. g2g, and thanks for all the help, i'll be on tommorrow. :) [[User:Ken|Ken]] 04:27, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

:No problem. Seya around Ken. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:29, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

== .Ogg sounds ==

It feels weird having [[The Geddup Noise|an article about a sound]] without a download of the sound. I've have an .ogg file from [[geddup noise]] as well as "Chairscoot", "Way-o Way-o", "The Standing-up Noise" and "The Get Outcha Seat sound". Is this kind of thing considered kosher on the Wiki? {{unsigned|No Parking|01:46, 8 June 2006}}

== The Background ==

Can we change the The Cheat Background just as we did with the main page background? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 22:33, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
:Why does this even need The Cheat? Can't we just put a background image of The Stick? Wouldn't that be the tiniest bit more relevant? :P — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
::I kind of think it's difficult to find links on this page and that it could be organized a little better. In fact, I've already started work on a [[User:It's dot com/The Stick makeover|new design]]. Comments on the [[User talk:It's dot com/The Stick makeover|talk page]] are welcome. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:13, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

== reference ==

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/email/

Oh, the lulz. - [[User:24.222.172.137|24.222.172.137]] 14:08, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

==What cartoon is this?==

I seem to recall a Strong Bad Email or something like that where Strong Bad says "now in HD". If I'm mistaken, it may have been a Simpsons episode. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 06:02, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
:[[long pants]] is what you are looking for {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 06:06, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

::Thanks. I also recall a cartoon where Homestar asks Strong bad what he's doing, only he pronounces "doing" to rhyme with "boing". When Strong Bad corrects him and says "what your looking for is do-ing", Homestar says "yeah, but they're spelled the same". [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 21:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

:::That would be [[car]], as you can find from a simple [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=boing&fulltext=Search search].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:14, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

::::I'm sorry. I'd already tried that. I didn't try searching for "boing" before. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 20:52, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::No probalo. Sometimes you have to be a bit creative with the search — especially if you only remember parts of a quote ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:46, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

== External community groups? ==

Tell me if this already exists somewhere else or if it's just a bad idea altogether. I'm interested in finding places where our community has grouped together (created sub-communities) on other community sites. The [http://www.frappr.com/homestarrunnerwiki Frapper map] is the perfect example of this, but I recently discovered a fledgling [http://www.last.fm/group/Homestar+Runner+Wiki.fm last.fm group]. I'm thinking The Stick (our community portal) is the right place to gather and document this stuff, but I worry about simply opening the floodgates. We'd have to come up with guidelines as to what sort of communities could be included in such a listing. What do you think? — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 03:33, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
:Are you talking about listing opportunites to meet and socialize with other HRWikiers in some fashion (be it sharing on Frappr, meeting in an online community, etc.) or something else? I think that might be an effective way to divert some of the social interaction that tends to clutter at times, leaving the wiki free to be a workspace. (Of course, we cannot {and should not} entirely divorce the social atmosphere - but mere chatty/social interaction could be encouraged this way without interfering with the task at hand.) {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:44, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
::I agree with Qermaq, listing these places is not only helpful for individual members, but it might also make the wiki a more efficient place. As a threshold, we could list groups that seem currently active with at least five or so members. Should we only consider sites as JoeyDay originally proposed or should we include other places as well, such as [irc://irc.freenode.net/hrwiki IRC]?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:16, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
:::Qermaq, yeah, places where hrwikiers can congregate outside the halls of knowledge-basedom. I pretty much just wanna have friends. I belong to a lot of social networks like del.icio.us and Flickr where I haven't met or interacted with a whole lot of people. So I pretty much just wanna know where the friends I already have are hanging out so I can hang out with them. Is there a MySpace group for hrwikiers, for instance? Beats me. It probably wouldn't be hard to find out, but it'd be convenient to have a list of all the hrwiki groups that exist within other social networks for quick reference. Loafing, I'd say the IRC channel is a sub-group of a separate social networking site, namely Freenode, so it would qualify for the list as I've proposed it, but individual listings would be up to the consensus of the group or some predetermined body of standards. The Homestar Runner Network (if it ever gets off the ground) will probably allow for the formation of member groups, and since it's a separate site, it would also qualify for inclusion in this list if a Homestar Runner Wiki group were formed there. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 04:32, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Sounds like a good idea. I'm not sure how many sites we could or should use this for. But I'm not sure how much this will make the wiki more productive. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 04:34, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::Well, that depends on your idea of productive. Currently, when overly chatty Talk exchanges interfere, we point to the Forum and that's all we have. But what if there was a wealth of social opportunity available? What if you could work on the wiki here AND chat with your new friends there? That's worth pursuit. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:39, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::When you put it that way, lets go for it! Anybody have any site ideas? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 04:41, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Re: the HRN, well let's get it in the air! What needs to be done? And yes, IRC is already a great place to start, that must be included. What you propose sounds extremely resonable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:37, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, the easiest way to find social sites with HRWiki communities is... to make one! I didn't just find out that Frappr had an HRWiki community and gathered them all to one place. I created it and people started signing up. Want an official MySpace page for HRWiki? Make one and people will come. Heck, even I, that don't have an account there, will only create one for that purpose of being listed. And yes, I'm all for including them here as long as they are official. By that I mean that they are either approved by you Joey, an admin or a sysop, and cannot be a duplicate of another community (like another forum or another Frappr group). {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:59, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
:I don't know why it needs to be "official". We would just document existing external communities, not endorse them, anyway. Or would we? That would require extra work for us with monitoring etc. And I'm not so sure about the duplicates either. If there is another active forum of hrwiki members, then why not mention it? They might have all kinds of different reasons to go separately.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:27, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
::Cf. the Sightings pages. We don't necessarily want this to become a free-for-all. Some sense of vetting is probably in order, if only to alert the reader what kind of experiance they are in for. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:11, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
:::I was tempted to make a Myspace HRWiki page and announce, but I didn't want the hassle of having to manage it. Other than that I think it's a good idea -- I'd be it's ''friend''. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:44, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
::::There is a [http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupProfile&groupID=102551726 Homestar Runner Wiki group] that Myspace users can join. With such a group in existence, there's no need to create an actual user called HRWiki. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:53, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::Actual users are so much more fun (you can put songs! like [[Circles]]), and I don't recognize anyone I know in it. I did add myself though. I'm the Linux Book. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:24, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

== Makeover ==

:''See [[User:It's dot com/The Stick makeover]]''
I think this page could be reorganized to make it easier to use. I propose the format linked to above. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:15, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
:Like I said before, it's been growing on me. How come there are none of the [[:Category:HRWiki_Committees|committees]] listed in the quick menu? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
::Well, there was talk of [[HRWiki_talk:Welcoming_committee#Necessity|getting rid]] of the committees, but even if we did that, there is still useful information on those pages, so I put the links back. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

== Protect ==

I think we should protect this page. Like the [[Main Page]] so nobody can vandal it. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:The_Stick&diff=421454&oldid=412550 Like this?] Nobody has vandalized this page since February. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:54, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe because it's protected since February?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 13:55, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I think that's probably why. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:57, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Ouch, I should have followed your link... I was trying to be sarcastic, not noticing that you had actually said that it was protected. That'll teach me not to edit at 2am :-/{{User:Loafing/sig}} 13:59, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::You don't need sleep. Can you say "overrated"? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 14:01, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

==Unnessecary pages?==
I've been noticing people that say that "Does {subject of page} really need an article of it's own? And he reply seems to be "It's something on the HR universe, and it's something worth noting". I think that some things dont really need thair own page (Like [[Typing Tutor Turbo]],[[Gross Old Wig]], [[Trophy Lights]]), but these things do need to be noted, so why not make a sort of 'minor/one-use object list' that is just a list of the things that are not 'important in a large sense' but are still relevant to the HR universe. For example, using the ones I listed, would look like this (Sorry for size, i dont know how to shrink it):

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Image !! Appearances !! Information
|- id="gross_old_wig"
| [[Image:Gross_old_wig.png|220px|Nasty too]] || Email [[time capsule]] || The '''Gross Old Wig''' was seen in the email [[time capsule]]. [[Homestar Runner]] once asked [[Strong Bad]] if he could put the Gross Old Wig in his "time machine." Homestar's motives for putting it in the [[The Time Capsule|time capsule]] are both "because it was gross and nasty and old and [he] didn't want it", as well as "so all the future peoples would know [he] had a gross old wig."

However, Strong Bad refused Homestar's request, stating that the time capsule was not a trash capsule. Homestar instead put the Gross Old Wig in a [[Freshley's]] "time box," where, in the year [[20X6]], it will be discovered by [[1-Up]].

It should be noted that this is one of the times when the nature of [[Lack of Visible Arms|Homestar's arms]] comes into debate, as he appears to be holding both the box and its lid, as well as the wig - a task that would normally require the use of not two but three arms.
|- id="trophy lights"
| [[Image:Trophy lights.PNG|220px|Cheating on his New Year's Resolution.]] || [[Where's The Cheat?]] || '''[[Trophy]] Lights''' are apparently [[The Cheat]]'s preferred brand of [[Smoking|cigarettes]]. While searching for The Cheat in [[Where's The Cheat?]], [[Strong Bad]] visits [[Coach Z]] at the [[Coach Z's Locker Room|locker room]]. Upon searching the locker that Coach Z claims he has found The Cheat sleeping in from time to time, Strong Bad finds evidence that The Cheat had been cheating on his New Year's resolution (presumably to quit smoking) in the form of a pack of Trophy Lights. Strong Bad, however, does not blame The Cheat for cheating, because, after all, he ''is'' The Cheat.
|- id="tuping_tutor_turbo"
| [[Image:KoT Typing.PNG|220px|"How many WPMs can ''you'' get up to?"]] || Email [[the bet]] Email [[garage sale]] (Jr.)|| '''Typing Tutor Turbo''' is a [[stand-up arcade game]] that apparently helps you learn to type, despite the fact that it has no keyboard. [[The King of Town]] owns this game, and [[Strong Bad]] used it to crush him. It is almost exactly like the game [[QWERTY]], except it has a ship that you use to shoot words to accumulate "WPMs" ("that's words per minute, you know"). There is a PC version of the game called "[[Floppy Disk Container#typing tutor jr|Typing Tutor Jr.]]" that Strong Bad put up for sale with a price tag of $23 in his [[garage sale]].

|}

While I stole the table from the floppy disk container, I think that putting one page with all of this on it would really help. Then just put redirects for the old pages. If this should be somewhere else go ahead and put it there. Please tell me what you think of this.--[[User:74.135.7.26|74.135.7.26]] 22:35, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

:Most people don't know it, mainly the newer folk or the ones who never looked trough histories, but there [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=prev&oldid=420 used to be] a Rejects page with a similar concept of what you just suggested. It was deleted and all the minor stuff got their own page. Every once in a while someone who doesn't know that fact comes out and post an idea like that. Well, first of all [[Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_paper_encyclopedia|HRWiki is not a paper knowledge base]], and because of that we do not try to "save on pages" or "save space". Since it's a wiki every small item and minor character can have it's own spotlight. Not to mention how much less conversations it will save on what to include or not in these "minor" pages. Is the [[Yello Dello]] minor? It only appeared in one toon and had one line. Think this through. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 23:00, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
::I was talking of more like it would give a short description, with longer ones on individual pages/grouped pages. Or possibly grouped pages with ones that are relevant to one subject, or an approxamate time when they occured. I didn't feel like redoing the info on those, so i just cut/pasted the current info. --[[User:74.135.7.26|74.135.7.26]] 23:03, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
:::That's why we have the [[Items]] page (it should really be updated. Really). It lists every item with a recognizable image along with it. Putting a summary on everything will just made excruciatingly long. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 23:15, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
::74.135.7.26: What would be the practical advantage of grouping these items as opposed to keeping them on their own pages? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:30, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
:::(i got a username now) Well, it would be useful not to save space so much as to keeping things organized. While it does make some sense to have them on their own page, such as less clutter on one page, its that if is useful to keep minor things grouped together, so like certain things that are relevant to each other are shown together. Also, it will help create a "chronology" of sorts, if you will. It gives it a greater sense of ''where'' and ''when'' certain things happen, both in real time and in HR time. Like if you wanted to see what the Gross Old Wig was, you could see other small props, whih show what sort of things happened at the time. Such as the Prawns (Although I'm not sure if Prawns have a page), you could se that it has some 20X6 meaning, along with Stinkoman's beloved prawns, and it would help by being able to show the relation of one thing to another. It would also be great for those short running gags, such as Strong sad as a "Email police", and you would see that ugly octopus smacking SS's face. So it's mostly to give better presentation of things that seem relatively pointless without. --[[User:Healthy Sam|Healthy Sam]] 03:02, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

== Dead-End Pages ==

What's the point of [[Special:Deadendpages|Dead-end pages]]? Every time I check it, there's nothing there! {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 18:05, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
:That's a good thing! As that page says, it lists all "pages (that) do not link to other pages in this wiki." Dead-end pages should not exist, and this special page is a tool to help us find and fix them. So if it doesn't list any pages, everything's good. It's a very similar idea to [[Special:Lonelypages|Orphaned pages]] which sadly does list three articles at the moment.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 18:17, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
::Oh okay. By the time of this comment there are only two orphaned articles. {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:54, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

== Wanted Pages ==

After about 15 minutes of trying to unlink all illegitimate 'wanted pages,' all of the edits were reverted. The situation now begs the question: If we aren't going to let 'wanted pages' do what we intend, why do we still have it? As it currently is the wanted page is overrun with links to articles that people propose in jest, or to specifically show irrationality on a Talk Page. Is there anyway we can make 'wanted pages' a useful project, and if not, why do we still have it? — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 02:25, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:We never intended [[Special:Wantedpages]] to do anything. It's designed for use with a very large wiki like Wikipedia and comes standard with the software. It can be useful on our wiki to find where we've made an error in linking to a legitimate page (as you've seen when you fixed those links), and we even have a bona fide wanted page in the list (The Lucky Yates Show). I increased the threshold to 3 links for a page to show up on the list. Is that an improvement? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:28, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::In fact, a huge improvement. It'll help us weed out rhetorical redlinks and user testlinks. Thanks one million — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 17:35, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:::So, I was thinking the other day about this issue, and it seems that have a certain number isn't necessarily an improvement, ''however'' limiting the Wanted Pages to the Mainspace would be actually using this section as a useful project. Not sure if we can do that, but if we can it would be perfect. — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 00:35, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
::::As of this writing, there are 13 entries on the page. Using your local filter (aka your brain) to find the mainspace pages would be a lot faster than trying to code any kind of software solution. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:50, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

==how?==
how do i become a sysop,beurocrat,ect...?--[[User:Wichesbrew82|Wichesbrew82]] 03:22, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
:Bureaucrats alone have the ability to grant and revoke sysop and bureaucrat status upon users. — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 03:33, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
::See my [[User:Qermaq#How to become a sysop good user|talk page]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
:::And also the [[HRWiki:FAQ#How do I become an admin or sysop?|FAQ]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:37, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

==msg==
i just made a userbox and it said {{{msg}}}. what does that mean?--{{User:Wichesbrew82/sig}} 04:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:"msg" is the code for the message. For example, the part that says "This user likes '''[[Strong Bad]]'''. If <code>msg=</code> is left blank, <code>{{{msg}}}</code> will appear in the place where the text usually goes. Also, this kind of question would be better suited for the [[HRWiki:FAQ|FAQ]] or the [[HRWiki talk:Userboxes|project's talk page]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:24, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

== Scrambled Titles? ==

It seems titles all over the site have been scrambled up, even the donation thing at the top. I don't know if this is normal vandalism, or if something is messed up. It looks pretty bad though, and I don't know if everyone has authority to edit that thing at the top.
([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 04:30, 1 April 2008 (UTC))

Great, every thing's major scrambled.

SOMETHING!IS!MESSED!UP!

([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 04:31, 1 April 2008 (UTC))

HRWiki talk:The Stick

2008-04-01T04:30:31Z

Frazz: /**/Scrambled Titles?

==legitimate screenshots==
does anybody know how to get decent screenshots? when i press "print screen", all it does is copy an image to my clipboard, which i can't get off and into a saved file for the life of me.

and sorry i'm not signed in, i'm in the process of changing my [[HRWiki:Changing_username|changing my username]]
-i know. can you believe it?/DJ Teh Cheat

:Doozey of a new name, DJ. I prefer [http://www.irfanview Irfanview] as an image editor—low memory profile, doesn't try to be Photoshop when all you need is to convert or crop. Anyway,
#do your "print screen" thing—yes, it will put it on the clipboard;
#open your preferred editor;
#hit "paste." Voila! Then save, preferably as PNG. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:19, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

grazie. or.. gratzie. or.. whatever. god bless photoshop.
-[[User:DJ Teh Cheat|DJ Teh Cheat]]

== Under Construction ==

This is under extensive construction, but it should eventually be something similar to Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Community portal|community portal]]. If you have suggestions or ideas, feel free to help us improve it. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 15:31, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

== Screenshot ==

Thinkin' we need a screenshot of [[The Stick]] here. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

I'ma try and get one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:26, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

:Done.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:29, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

::Aw! I wanted to do a whole new one, from [[the bird]], but oh well. (I had it all ready to be uploaded too...) --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

:::could you email the pic to me acekirby13 (P.S. My email is at my user page)[[User:Pertmywert|Joel]]|[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]

== Thumbnail ==

The thumbnail we have of The Stick seems to be overlapping the background image of The Stick on the page. We should remove the thumbnail; the page looks better without it anyway (in my opinion, of course). --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

:If you're using a [http://www.getfirefox.com browser that can properly interpret CSS], the page is elongated to eliminate the overlap. Once the page has more information on it, this will no longer be a problem. I suppose we could remove the thumbnail in the meantime... — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:40, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

== Now you see me, and now you don't. ==
The Stick isn't always in the navigation panel. I'm not sure if it's for certain pages or just random. If it's for certain pages I'll give an example soon. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 21:07, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Example: [[The Halloween House]]. (This one seems to not have The Stick in navigation.) [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 21:10, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

(Edit Conflict- My Reply)
:It isn't? That's odd. It always is for me (unless I haven't noticed it). Maybe you should take this up with the mods. [[User:Tom|Tom]] and [[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] are good with Wiki glitches. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 21:11, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

:Try a hard refresh. (Ctrl+F5). That usually fixes things up with me. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

::By the way, when I go to [[The Halloween House]], I can still see The Stick in the navigation. As suggested above, try a Hard Refresh. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 21:14, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

::Nope, that hard refresh thing's not working. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 21:16, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

:::Try clearing your cache completely. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 21:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

::::Okay, so far I'm not having the problem anymore. That must've been it. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 21:20, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

== New Committees ==

Is it alright if we start new committees? -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:38, 10 May 2005 (PDT)

:Talk it over with [[User:JoeyDay|Joey]] first. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

==Protection==
Do you guys think HRWiki:The Stick is worth protecting?-[[User:Gordon 584|'''^Gordon^''']]

I do. Like the main page, this is rarely changed. This deserves protection much more than the main page, in my opinion. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:30, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I disagree with your last point, Rogue. The main page is the most visited page on the site. The Stick is not. The only reason why this page should possibly be protected is because it isn't changed much. It is one of the most trolled pages on the site because it is the first editable page linked on the sidebar. I don't think protecting it would help much, because trolls would simply move on to H*R.com updates and Strong Bad Email. Besides, trolling at the stick is usually reverted pretty quickly. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:37, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::So were the Main Page edits. Look at The Stick's history. Most them are trolling edits. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:43, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::I didn't say I strongly oppose protecting this page. From the perspective of the wiki as a whole, it wouldn't do much. But I guess that's the wrong perspective. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:48, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::I strongly oppose protecting it. See [[HRWiki_talk:About#Protect.3F|my arguments here]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:51, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I agree that no page is 100% perfect, but this page is one of the most trolled pages on the wiki. If this page is edited, chances are that it is a defacement. And please tell me why this page would need to be edited. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 02:01, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Users should be allowed to add stuff to the Stick if they come up with a useful tool or committee or something. Trolling isn't that hard to revert, and protection is against the wiki way. Like Joe said, the trolls would just move on to H*R.com updates and Strong Bad Email (which ''can't'' be protected). {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 02:04, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Ok, I concede. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 02:07, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Pledge Drive ==

The Pledge Drive is a good idea!--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]
:All right, then ask [[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] about it. Earlier, [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] made the same change you did, and then [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:The_Stick&diff=179428&oldid=179417 reverted it] just a few minutes later. I got the feeling he chatted with someone about it and was told to remove it. I could be wrong, but you should find out. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:28, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== signatures ==
ok, i'm in the process of designing my signature. i'm almost done, but i've run into two snags. the first one is, the M is supposed to link to my user talk, but it doesn't link. the second is that the timestamp is all screwed up to where it comes up under the comment in a quote. if anyone knows what i'm doing wrong, please fix it at http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:DJ_Teh_Cheat/sig .
and, the first problem is fixed at the actual sig page, but it doesn't work when i use it anywhere else. --{{User:DJ Teh Cheat/sig}} 23:01, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

ok, i fixed the first problem. nevermind on that one. now i just need to figure out how to fix the timestamp. --{{User:DJ Teh Cheat/sig}} 23:03, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

== New commitee ==

Mabye we could have a merging comittee so we can take all the small pages and make them into larger pages.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 02:52, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

:No. It's too easy for that to be a commitee. We're going merging overboard.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 02:56, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

or mabye an info gathering commitee.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 03:02, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
:I dunno, that might be a good idea, but like Bkmlb said, it's so easy... I dunno. I guess I should shut up then. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:04, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
I personally don't see any need for a committee with such a limited charter. Would that committee go around merging articles until they're all on one big page? And there's nothing inherently wrong with small articles. Sometimes there's just not a lot to say about a subject, even though it's important. If the content or theme of several articles is very similar and the likelihood of cross-referencing is high ''and'' the articles themselves are quite small, then they ''might'' should be merged; otherwise, articles should remain on their own pages, no matter their size. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:14, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

== Sprucing Up ==

Hi, I never really liked the stick to look plain looking, so I figured I'd spruce it up a little, following the [[HRWiki:Introduction]] style. I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&diff=225826&oldid=225822 made] a preview on the Sandbox and applied it. I had [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&diff=225821&oldid=225820 also] tried a version that would be part of the introduction but the title is too wide even for 1024x768 and I'm not sure it quite belongs there. If you guys don't like it feel free to revert. One thing is left to be done though. In order to eliminate [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&diff=225822&oldid=225821 ugly] whitespace around the quick menu, I removed the border and couldn't make it transparent. I'll leave that one to the XHTML gurus. One thing I really wanted to do was to make the quick links div be its own [[HRWiki:The_Stick/quick_menu|template]] which would look nicer in the stick page (easier to understand) and also could be used by users in their user page if they so desire. The quick menu itself could probably be reorganized a little (group things and use horiz lines to divide these groups) in order to make things a little "quicker" --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:25, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

:Nice work, Stux! There's just one problem. Part of The Cheat's head has been cut off by the quick menu. It really bugs me. Other than that, great! {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:16, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
::Thanks! What resolution are you running at? i'm using 1024x768 and the quick menu is far enough away to interfere. I can only guess you're running at <s>800x600</s> 640x480. I tried at 800x600 and it looks fine too. If that's the case i don't think there's much that can be done. :( I don't know what else could be causing it. (Do you see artifacts in the [[HRWiki:Introduction]] pages?) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:41, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Well, I've added some extra spaces to the text and the page looks fine now. The Cheat is 100%! Also, I'm actually running at 1280x1024 and I don't notice anything wrong with the introduction pages. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:54, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh! That makes sense now. I hadn't thought of that. Thanks! Yeah you won't find any problems with the intro pages at 1280x1024, only 800x600 and below. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:01, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Sorry The Chort, but I liked the divisions too much after reorganizing the quick menu. You may need to add more spaces or something to make it work on 1280x1024. I'll check it out once I get back to the lab -- after Jan 9th that is. I hope the new quick menu look is still good. :) Happy New Year all! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:44, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::Well, if we can't add extra spaces to the page, what can we do? It's really irritating that most of The Cheat's head is cut off. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:25, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&diff=227791&oldid=227621 Flesh things out]? Only if people like it and it's useful. Well at least if ppl like it ok. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:27, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

== Italics in '''Appearances''' sections ==

Does anyone recall the rationale for italicizing all the descriptions in an '''Appearances''' section? I couldn't find anything about this on the [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]] page. They seem like an unnecessary hassle for writers and editors to deal with, and can become overbearing on pages that have a lot of Appearances. I especially noticed this on [[Pie]] when I wanted to italicize ''TV Time'' Magazine. What if we just formatted all Appearances normally? The em dashes are more than sufficient to provide a clean seaparation between each title and description. {{User:Bill/sig}} 18:20, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

: Note also a very different format used in [[Twin Characters]]. Is there a standard documented somewhere? {{User:Bill/sig}} 19:23, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
::[[The Geddup Noise|Probably not]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:45, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
I think italics are dreadful to try and read in large doses, but I, too, don't know where or whether this has been discussed. In the meantime, I have been [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Powered_by_The_Cheat&diff=prev&oldid=225586 putting them back] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Lack_of_Visible_Arms&diff=prev&oldid=220265 into regular formatting] whenever I've noticed someone change them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:25, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, now that I think about it I do vaguely remember reading a discussion very similar to this one. And i think it had been decided that it would be good to not keep italics. It may not have been with appearances but it was with a similar thing. I think E.L.Cool participated in it. He's the only person I can think of that could know. Maybe we can ask him? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:52, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

== protect ==

Shouldn't you protect this page?? {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:This has been discussed on this talk page already. The agreement was no. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:56, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== CSS, I think ==

The background image of The cheat, where is that defined?
I see the code 
<nowiki>
<div style="border:3px solid #B3FF00;padding:.5em 1em 1em 1em;border-top:none;color:000" class="IntroPageBox">
</nowiki>
 
but where are the attributes of ''IntroPageBox'' defined. Is it CSS document? I would like to look at the code to get a better understanding of how the page is contructed and possibly even develop one of my own for a different page or at the very least, mess around in the sandbox a little.
{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:41, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:Try [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 21:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

==what happened?==
i remember that a link to a page with a homestar parory song called"all your base are belong to us"used to be on the site and i can't find it,plz put it back on or explain where it is
ty
:May I direct your attention to [[User: Has Matt?|Has Matt's user page?]] {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:52, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

== Why is the stick so good for hanging out at? ==

I just don't understand, it does'nt make sense to me. What is there to do at the stick?-ken

:See [[origins]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:18, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

It's an awesome e-mail, but it didnt explain anything. sorry man.-ken

:Maybe see [[FAQ]]? And I know, the first reply didn't make alot of sense either. I just don't really have a good answer for you. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:30, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

yeah thunda, it is a pretty stupid question even, but like does it ever grow? I bet because its a STICK strong mad got ticked and shoved it in the ground er somthing.

:You could also try [[Email]]ing The Brothers Chaps. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:36, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

good idea, but it was already an e-mail.-ken

:That was an email to Strong Bad. The Brothers' Chaps might answer your questions directly. I once emailed about the answer to the Jumble in [[caper]] (before I knew about the wiki), and they replied with the answer; Une Taco. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:40, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

do they give you spam?
and do you come here often?
I don't even have an account-ken

:No spam (unless you count [[unused emails|Bubs' weekly spamvertisements]]), and yes I come here often. I'm an [[HRWiki:Administrators|admin]] here. See [[User:Thunderbird L17|here]] for further info. And if you dont' have an account yet, I would highly reccoment [[Special:Userlogin|signing up]]. It's quick, free, and painless. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:45, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

cool, cool, mysterious, cool. But do I need an e-mail address, and will the wiki e-mail me thanking me for joining, and will I need to log on a certain amout of times in a month or anything?-ken

:Email is optional, the wiki won't email you even if you do give them your address, unless you request a password reminder. Somebody will welcome you on your talk page though, and an account stays forever, regardless of how much or little you sign in for. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:50, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

is there an age limit?-ken

:Over 95 are not allowed to join, and under a year and a half are also disallowed. Besides that, the [[Pie]]'s the limit. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:55, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

and what are the limits to insulting stuff, because there was some stuff i did when I went into homsar, you will see it in discussions. tell me to delete it if it is too mean-ken

:You can make general complaints on the [[HRWiki:IRC channel|chat channel]]. Personal attacks, however, are not tolerated. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:59, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

:'''EDIT CONFLICT:''' I saw it [[Talk:homsar|here]], it was kind of insulting, but if you're usually not like that you'll be okay. Debate is allowed, but not outright personal attacks, foul language, or obviously insulting comments. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:02, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

sorry, i'll delete i guess, say, I got my account!!-ken

:Welcome to the wiki Ken. I'd reccomend [[User:Ken|creating]] a [[HRWiki:User space|user space]]. And if you want to sign your comments, type four of these: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Welcome again. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:06, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

thanks man [[User:Ken|Ken]] 04:06, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

but should I delete it at homsar? [[User:Ken|Ken]] 04:08, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

:I wouldn't worry about it. You can if you want though. Nobody really looks there too often anyways. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:09, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

cool, now I don't need to take that weird test with the letters, was that a drunk test? [[User:Ken|Ken]] 04:10, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

:It's a test to make sure you're a human and not a computer program. We've had problems in the past with those, they can automatically vandalize hundreds of pages in mere minutes. See [[HRWiki:A History#NSMC|here]] for more info about why we started Captcha (the letters and numbers pictures) in the first place. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:13, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

yeah sorry, that was a stupid question anyway[[User:Ken|Ken]] 04:18, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

:Naw, it's a valid question. And as a side point, through this conversation do you understand why The Stick is such a great place to hang out? That's what we've been doing for the past 10 minutes. It's a great place for that kind of thing. :) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:20, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

sure.[[User:Ken|Ken]] 04:24, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

:Btw, if you like chatting with Homestar Runner fans, [[HRWiki:IRC channel|here]]'s the place to go. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:25, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

sorry, not the chat room kind. g2g, and thanks for all the help, i'll be on tommorrow. :) [[User:Ken|Ken]] 04:27, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

:No problem. Seya around Ken. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:29, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

== .Ogg sounds ==

It feels weird having [[The Geddup Noise|an article about a sound]] without a download of the sound. I've have an .ogg file from [[geddup noise]] as well as "Chairscoot", "Way-o Way-o", "The Standing-up Noise" and "The Get Outcha Seat sound". Is this kind of thing considered kosher on the Wiki? {{unsigned|No Parking|01:46, 8 June 2006}}

== The Background ==

Can we change the The Cheat Background just as we did with the main page background? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 22:33, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
:Why does this even need The Cheat? Can't we just put a background image of The Stick? Wouldn't that be the tiniest bit more relevant? :P — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
::I kind of think it's difficult to find links on this page and that it could be organized a little better. In fact, I've already started work on a [[User:It's dot com/The Stick makeover|new design]]. Comments on the [[User talk:It's dot com/The Stick makeover|talk page]] are welcome. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:13, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

== reference ==

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/email/

Oh, the lulz. - [[User:24.222.172.137|24.222.172.137]] 14:08, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

==What cartoon is this?==

I seem to recall a Strong Bad Email or something like that where Strong Bad says "now in HD". If I'm mistaken, it may have been a Simpsons episode. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 06:02, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
:[[long pants]] is what you are looking for {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 06:06, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

::Thanks. I also recall a cartoon where Homestar asks Strong bad what he's doing, only he pronounces "doing" to rhyme with "boing". When Strong Bad corrects him and says "what your looking for is do-ing", Homestar says "yeah, but they're spelled the same". [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 21:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

:::That would be [[car]], as you can find from a simple [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=boing&fulltext=Search search].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:14, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

::::I'm sorry. I'd already tried that. I didn't try searching for "boing" before. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 20:52, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::No probalo. Sometimes you have to be a bit creative with the search — especially if you only remember parts of a quote ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:46, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

== External community groups? ==

Tell me if this already exists somewhere else or if it's just a bad idea altogether. I'm interested in finding places where our community has grouped together (created sub-communities) on other community sites. The [http://www.frappr.com/homestarrunnerwiki Frapper map] is the perfect example of this, but I recently discovered a fledgling [http://www.last.fm/group/Homestar+Runner+Wiki.fm last.fm group]. I'm thinking The Stick (our community portal) is the right place to gather and document this stuff, but I worry about simply opening the floodgates. We'd have to come up with guidelines as to what sort of communities could be included in such a listing. What do you think? — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 03:33, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
:Are you talking about listing opportunites to meet and socialize with other HRWikiers in some fashion (be it sharing on Frappr, meeting in an online community, etc.) or something else? I think that might be an effective way to divert some of the social interaction that tends to clutter at times, leaving the wiki free to be a workspace. (Of course, we cannot {and should not} entirely divorce the social atmosphere - but mere chatty/social interaction could be encouraged this way without interfering with the task at hand.) {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:44, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
::I agree with Qermaq, listing these places is not only helpful for individual members, but it might also make the wiki a more efficient place. As a threshold, we could list groups that seem currently active with at least five or so members. Should we only consider sites as JoeyDay originally proposed or should we include other places as well, such as [irc://irc.freenode.net/hrwiki IRC]?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:16, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
:::Qermaq, yeah, places where hrwikiers can congregate outside the halls of knowledge-basedom. I pretty much just wanna have friends. I belong to a lot of social networks like del.icio.us and Flickr where I haven't met or interacted with a whole lot of people. So I pretty much just wanna know where the friends I already have are hanging out so I can hang out with them. Is there a MySpace group for hrwikiers, for instance? Beats me. It probably wouldn't be hard to find out, but it'd be convenient to have a list of all the hrwiki groups that exist within other social networks for quick reference. Loafing, I'd say the IRC channel is a sub-group of a separate social networking site, namely Freenode, so it would qualify for the list as I've proposed it, but individual listings would be up to the consensus of the group or some predetermined body of standards. The Homestar Runner Network (if it ever gets off the ground) will probably allow for the formation of member groups, and since it's a separate site, it would also qualify for inclusion in this list if a Homestar Runner Wiki group were formed there. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 04:32, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Sounds like a good idea. I'm not sure how many sites we could or should use this for. But I'm not sure how much this will make the wiki more productive. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 04:34, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::Well, that depends on your idea of productive. Currently, when overly chatty Talk exchanges interfere, we point to the Forum and that's all we have. But what if there was a wealth of social opportunity available? What if you could work on the wiki here AND chat with your new friends there? That's worth pursuit. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:39, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::When you put it that way, lets go for it! Anybody have any site ideas? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 04:41, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Re: the HRN, well let's get it in the air! What needs to be done? And yes, IRC is already a great place to start, that must be included. What you propose sounds extremely resonable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:37, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, the easiest way to find social sites with HRWiki communities is... to make one! I didn't just find out that Frappr had an HRWiki community and gathered them all to one place. I created it and people started signing up. Want an official MySpace page for HRWiki? Make one and people will come. Heck, even I, that don't have an account there, will only create one for that purpose of being listed. And yes, I'm all for including them here as long as they are official. By that I mean that they are either approved by you Joey, an admin or a sysop, and cannot be a duplicate of another community (like another forum or another Frappr group). {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:59, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
:I don't know why it needs to be "official". We would just document existing external communities, not endorse them, anyway. Or would we? That would require extra work for us with monitoring etc. And I'm not so sure about the duplicates either. If there is another active forum of hrwiki members, then why not mention it? They might have all kinds of different reasons to go separately.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:27, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
::Cf. the Sightings pages. We don't necessarily want this to become a free-for-all. Some sense of vetting is probably in order, if only to alert the reader what kind of experiance they are in for. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:11, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
:::I was tempted to make a Myspace HRWiki page and announce, but I didn't want the hassle of having to manage it. Other than that I think it's a good idea -- I'd be it's ''friend''. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:44, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
::::There is a [http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupProfile&groupID=102551726 Homestar Runner Wiki group] that Myspace users can join. With such a group in existence, there's no need to create an actual user called HRWiki. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:53, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::Actual users are so much more fun (you can put songs! like [[Circles]]), and I don't recognize anyone I know in it. I did add myself though. I'm the Linux Book. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:24, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

== Makeover ==

:''See [[User:It's dot com/The Stick makeover]]''
I think this page could be reorganized to make it easier to use. I propose the format linked to above. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:15, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
:Like I said before, it's been growing on me. How come there are none of the [[:Category:HRWiki_Committees|committees]] listed in the quick menu? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
::Well, there was talk of [[HRWiki_talk:Welcoming_committee#Necessity|getting rid]] of the committees, but even if we did that, there is still useful information on those pages, so I put the links back. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

== Protect ==

I think we should protect this page. Like the [[Main Page]] so nobody can vandal it. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:The_Stick&diff=421454&oldid=412550 Like this?] Nobody has vandalized this page since February. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:54, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe because it's protected since February?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 13:55, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I think that's probably why. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:57, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Ouch, I should have followed your link... I was trying to be sarcastic, not noticing that you had actually said that it was protected. That'll teach me not to edit at 2am :-/{{User:Loafing/sig}} 13:59, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::You don't need sleep. Can you say "overrated"? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 14:01, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

==Unnessecary pages?==
I've been noticing people that say that "Does {subject of page} really need an article of it's own? And he reply seems to be "It's something on the HR universe, and it's something worth noting". I think that some things dont really need thair own page (Like [[Typing Tutor Turbo]],[[Gross Old Wig]], [[Trophy Lights]]), but these things do need to be noted, so why not make a sort of 'minor/one-use object list' that is just a list of the things that are not 'important in a large sense' but are still relevant to the HR universe. For example, using the ones I listed, would look like this (Sorry for size, i dont know how to shrink it):

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Image !! Appearances !! Information
|- id="gross_old_wig"
| [[Image:Gross_old_wig.png|220px|Nasty too]] || Email [[time capsule]] || The '''Gross Old Wig''' was seen in the email [[time capsule]]. [[Homestar Runner]] once asked [[Strong Bad]] if he could put the Gross Old Wig in his "time machine." Homestar's motives for putting it in the [[The Time Capsule|time capsule]] are both "because it was gross and nasty and old and [he] didn't want it", as well as "so all the future peoples would know [he] had a gross old wig."

However, Strong Bad refused Homestar's request, stating that the time capsule was not a trash capsule. Homestar instead put the Gross Old Wig in a [[Freshley's]] "time box," where, in the year [[20X6]], it will be discovered by [[1-Up]].

It should be noted that this is one of the times when the nature of [[Lack of Visible Arms|Homestar's arms]] comes into debate, as he appears to be holding both the box and its lid, as well as the wig - a task that would normally require the use of not two but three arms.
|- id="trophy lights"
| [[Image:Trophy lights.PNG|220px|Cheating on his New Year's Resolution.]] || [[Where's The Cheat?]] || '''[[Trophy]] Lights''' are apparently [[The Cheat]]'s preferred brand of [[Smoking|cigarettes]]. While searching for The Cheat in [[Where's The Cheat?]], [[Strong Bad]] visits [[Coach Z]] at the [[Coach Z's Locker Room|locker room]]. Upon searching the locker that Coach Z claims he has found The Cheat sleeping in from time to time, Strong Bad finds evidence that The Cheat had been cheating on his New Year's resolution (presumably to quit smoking) in the form of a pack of Trophy Lights. Strong Bad, however, does not blame The Cheat for cheating, because, after all, he ''is'' The Cheat.
|- id="tuping_tutor_turbo"
| [[Image:KoT Typing.PNG|220px|"How many WPMs can ''you'' get up to?"]] || Email [[the bet]] Email [[garage sale]] (Jr.)|| '''Typing Tutor Turbo''' is a [[stand-up arcade game]] that apparently helps you learn to type, despite the fact that it has no keyboard. [[The King of Town]] owns this game, and [[Strong Bad]] used it to crush him. It is almost exactly like the game [[QWERTY]], except it has a ship that you use to shoot words to accumulate "WPMs" ("that's words per minute, you know"). There is a PC version of the game called "[[Floppy Disk Container#typing tutor jr|Typing Tutor Jr.]]" that Strong Bad put up for sale with a price tag of $23 in his [[garage sale]].

|}

While I stole the table from the floppy disk container, I think that putting one page with all of this on it would really help. Then just put redirects for the old pages. If this should be somewhere else go ahead and put it there. Please tell me what you think of this.--[[User:74.135.7.26|74.135.7.26]] 22:35, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

:Most people don't know it, mainly the newer folk or the ones who never looked trough histories, but there [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=prev&oldid=420 used to be] a Rejects page with a similar concept of what you just suggested. It was deleted and all the minor stuff got their own page. Every once in a while someone who doesn't know that fact comes out and post an idea like that. Well, first of all [[Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_paper_encyclopedia|HRWiki is not a paper knowledge base]], and because of that we do not try to "save on pages" or "save space". Since it's a wiki every small item and minor character can have it's own spotlight. Not to mention how much less conversations it will save on what to include or not in these "minor" pages. Is the [[Yello Dello]] minor? It only appeared in one toon and had one line. Think this through. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 23:00, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
::I was talking of more like it would give a short description, with longer ones on individual pages/grouped pages. Or possibly grouped pages with ones that are relevant to one subject, or an approxamate time when they occured. I didn't feel like redoing the info on those, so i just cut/pasted the current info. --[[User:74.135.7.26|74.135.7.26]] 23:03, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
:::That's why we have the [[Items]] page (it should really be updated. Really). It lists every item with a recognizable image along with it. Putting a summary on everything will just made excruciatingly long. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 23:15, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
::74.135.7.26: What would be the practical advantage of grouping these items as opposed to keeping them on their own pages? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:30, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
:::(i got a username now) Well, it would be useful not to save space so much as to keeping things organized. While it does make some sense to have them on their own page, such as less clutter on one page, its that if is useful to keep minor things grouped together, so like certain things that are relevant to each other are shown together. Also, it will help create a "chronology" of sorts, if you will. It gives it a greater sense of ''where'' and ''when'' certain things happen, both in real time and in HR time. Like if you wanted to see what the Gross Old Wig was, you could see other small props, whih show what sort of things happened at the time. Such as the Prawns (Although I'm not sure if Prawns have a page), you could se that it has some 20X6 meaning, along with Stinkoman's beloved prawns, and it would help by being able to show the relation of one thing to another. It would also be great for those short running gags, such as Strong sad as a "Email police", and you would see that ugly octopus smacking SS's face. So it's mostly to give better presentation of things that seem relatively pointless without. --[[User:Healthy Sam|Healthy Sam]] 03:02, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

== Dead-End Pages ==

What's the point of [[Special:Deadendpages|Dead-end pages]]? Every time I check it, there's nothing there! {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 18:05, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
:That's a good thing! As that page says, it lists all "pages (that) do not link to other pages in this wiki." Dead-end pages should not exist, and this special page is a tool to help us find and fix them. So if it doesn't list any pages, everything's good. It's a very similar idea to [[Special:Lonelypages|Orphaned pages]] which sadly does list three articles at the moment.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 18:17, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
::Oh okay. By the time of this comment there are only two orphaned articles. {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:54, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

== Wanted Pages ==

After about 15 minutes of trying to unlink all illegitimate 'wanted pages,' all of the edits were reverted. The situation now begs the question: If we aren't going to let 'wanted pages' do what we intend, why do we still have it? As it currently is the wanted page is overrun with links to articles that people propose in jest, or to specifically show irrationality on a Talk Page. Is there anyway we can make 'wanted pages' a useful project, and if not, why do we still have it? — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 02:25, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:We never intended [[Special:Wantedpages]] to do anything. It's designed for use with a very large wiki like Wikipedia and comes standard with the software. It can be useful on our wiki to find where we've made an error in linking to a legitimate page (as you've seen when you fixed those links), and we even have a bona fide wanted page in the list (The Lucky Yates Show). I increased the threshold to 3 links for a page to show up on the list. Is that an improvement? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:28, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::In fact, a huge improvement. It'll help us weed out rhetorical redlinks and user testlinks. Thanks one million — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 17:35, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:::So, I was thinking the other day about this issue, and it seems that have a certain number isn't necessarily an improvement, ''however'' limiting the Wanted Pages to the Mainspace would be actually using this section as a useful project. Not sure if we can do that, but if we can it would be perfect. — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 00:35, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
::::As of this writing, there are 13 entries on the page. Using your local filter (aka your brain) to find the mainspace pages would be a lot faster than trying to code any kind of software solution. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:50, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

==how?==
how do i become a sysop,beurocrat,ect...?--[[User:Wichesbrew82|Wichesbrew82]] 03:22, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
:Bureaucrats alone have the ability to grant and revoke sysop and bureaucrat status upon users. — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 03:33, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
::See my [[User:Qermaq#How to become a sysop good user|talk page]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
:::And also the [[HRWiki:FAQ#How do I become an admin or sysop?|FAQ]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:37, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

==msg==
i just made a userbox and it said {{{msg}}}. what does that mean?--{{User:Wichesbrew82/sig}} 04:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:"msg" is the code for the message. For example, the part that says "This user likes '''[[Strong Bad]]'''. If <code>msg=</code> is left blank, <code>{{{msg}}}</code> will appear in the place where the text usually goes. Also, this kind of question would be better suited for the [[HRWiki:FAQ|FAQ]] or the [[HRWiki talk:Userboxes|project's talk page]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:24, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

== Scrambled Titles? ==

It seems titles all over the site have been scrambled up, even the donation thing at the top. I don't know if this is normal vandalism, or if something is messed up. It looks pretty bad though, and I don't know if everyone has authority to edit that thing at the top.
([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 04:30, 1 April 2008 (UTC))

Ballad of The Sneak

2008-03-26T18:59:37Z

Frazz: /* Lyrics */ "Who's THAT Dapper Swindler...", not "THE Dapper Swindler" See discussion page, I left a comment

{{toonnav|Shorts|sneakvideo|Lookin at a Thing in a Bag|Mr. Shmallow (toon)}}
[[Image:balladofthesneakdance.PNG|thumb|220px|A song and dance on the high steel]]

The [[Old-Timey]] equivalent of [[The Cheat Theme Song]]. Performed by [[DaVinci's Notebook]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[The Barbershop Trio]], {{Film|The Sneak}}, {{Film|Old-Timey Bubs}}, {{Film|Old-Timey Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Fat Dudley}}, {{Film|Sickly Sam}}, {{Film|Old-Timey Marzipan}}, {{Film|Strong Man}}, [[Fort Wayne Locomotive]], [[Mr. Shmallow]] (on the box), [[The Kaiser]]

'''Places:''' [[Cliffs|Old-Timey Cliff]], [[The Field]] (Old-Timey)

'''Date:''' Monday, June 23, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 2:03

'''Page Title:''' The Ballad of The Sneak

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 1}}

== Lyrics ==

I know a lively fellow, 
Who is really quite unique. 
He's small and smart and yellow, 
With a rodent-like physique. 
He doesn't play the cello, 
And he never deigns to speak. 
He's The Strong Bad's Leporello, 
And they just call him The Sneak... 

If you've got a caper 
Then you know who to call. 
It's The Sneak! 
It's The Sneak! 
Who's that Dapper Swindler 
Out of Tammany Hall? 
Vo-vo-vo-dee-oh-do 
It's The Sneak! 

[[Image:Not Panama.PNG|thumb|(Not the Panama Canal)]]
That charming little whatzit 
Who's The Strong Man's greatest pal? 
It's The Sneak! 
It's The Sneak! 
Who did the Hully Gully 
On the Panama Canal? 
Doo-wacka-doo-wacka-doo 
It's The Sneak! 

Who's that jaunty jackanapes 
With moxie and pizzazz? 
It's The Sneak! (Yes, sir!) 
It's The Sneak! 
Who's been drinking bootleg hooch 
And listening to the jazz? 
Vo-vo-voh-de-oh-doh 
It's The Sneak! 

Who captures all the flapper girls' affections? 
Who made off with my Fluffy Puff confections? 
He's dastardly! 
He loves catastrophe! 
His schemes are masterly! 
Takes tea at half past three! 
That sneaky sneaker's sneakin' all over town! 

Who dropped The Homestar Runner 
From his flying machine? (Humdinger!) 
Is it The Sneak? (28 skidoo!) 
It's The Sneak! 
Who put a Bengal tiger 
In The Kaiser's latrine? (Ach Du lieber!) 
It's The Sneak! (What's the rumpus?) 
You know it's The Sneak! (Take it home!) 
The Sneakity Sneak all day long! 

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What?

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*A "humdinger" is slang for "one that is extraordinary or remarkable".
*To "deign" means "to think it appropriate to one's dignity".
* A [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=jackanapes&x=12&y=16 jackanapes] is a whippersnapper, an upstart, or a rascal.
*The poster with The Dapper Swindler has "known in the Northwest Territories as The Sneak" at the bottom. The [[Wikipedia:Northwest Territories|Northwest Territories]] is a [[Wikipedia: Canada|Canadian]] territory, located in the north-central part of the country.
*"Ach, du lieber" ("Oh, dear") is short for "Ach, du lieber Himmel" ("Oh, dear Heaven"), a German exclamation of surprise.
*"Jaunty" means "stylish" or "genteel".
*"28 skidoo" is a play on "[[Wikipedia:23 skidoo|23 skidoo]]", a bit of slang popular during the [[Wikipedia:Roaring Twenties|Roaring Twenties]]. It generally meant to leave quickly, sometimes specifically meaning to "get out while the getting's good" (very appropriate for The Sneak). [http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/393450.html The Phrase Finder] offers a number of possible origins for the phrase.
*"Rumpus" means "a noisy clamor".
*The dance Sickly Sam does is the [[Wikipedia:Charleston (dance)|Charleston]], a popular dance in the 1920s and '30s. The specific move is called "Bees Knees".
*The [[Wikipedia:Hully Gully|Hully Gully]] didn't exist in 1936. It was a hit song and popular dance introduced by The Olympics in 1959.
*Old-Timey Strong Bad flies over the Cliff in what appears to be a [[Wikipedia:Wright Flyer|Wright Flyer]].
*The piano that The Sneak rides upon is a [[Wikipedia:player piano|nickelodeon]], an automatic piano which at the time actually cost a nickel to operate.
*"dapper" means "well-mannered and/or dressed"

=== Trivia ===
*This toon features all of the main characters' Old-Timey counterparts except for those of [[The Poopsmith]] and [[Homsar]].
*Mr. Shmallow makes an appearance in this cartoon on the front of a [[Fluffy Puff Air-Puffed Sugar Delights|Fluffy Puff box]]. This box is different from the one featured in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]]. The container in this cartoon appears to be a tin, while the other is a cardboard box. Also, the candies in the tin appear not to be marshmallows but a candy similar to the Choco-Lumps referred to in the aforementioned toon.
*"The Ballad of the Sneak" also appears on the album "Shame and Cookie Dough" by Paul and Storm, two former members of DaVinci's Notebook. The CD includes the original H*R.com version and one with commentary.
*The Sneak is mentioned as "yellow", giving weight to the theory he would be that color before being "filmed" in black-and-white.
*The orientation of The Sneak's tail has changed since his appearance in [[Parsnips A-Plenty]].
*On the Old-Timey Strong Bad clock, the hour hand is pointing slightly up. If it were really showing 3:30, the hour hand would be pointing slightly down.
*This is the first appearance of Old-Timey Coach Z, known as the Fort Wayne Locomotive.

===Remarks===
*The song is mostly done in four-part vocal [[Wikipedia:Harmony|harmony]] (although sometimes subtle and in octaves). The [[Wikipedia:A cappella|a cappella]] introduction comprises four voices in [[Wikipedia:Homophony|homophony]]; they are most distinct on the lines "never deigns to speak" and "they just call him The Sneak." The "jaunty jackanapes" section takes a [[Wikipedia:Call and response (music)|call and response]] format, with a [[Wikipedia:Soloist|soloist]] calling and the other two answering in [[Wikipedia:Polyphony|polyphony]]; again, a total of three parts.
*In the first commentary, Paul Sabourin of Da Vinci's Notebook says that the reference to the Smoot-Hawley Tariff doesn't fit in with the 1936 World. The Smoot-Hawley Tariff was signed into law in 1930, not the 1890's like he thought.
*This cartoon and [[That A Ghost]] both refer to illegal alcoholic beverages, which brings the [[Wikipedia:Prohibition|Prohibition]] era to mind. However, the cartoons were supposedly made in 1936 or 1937, 3 or 4 years after Prohibition had been repealed, so strictly the illegality would have to be merely evading the appropriate taxes on their manufacture.
*The Wright Brothers' plane was developed in 1903, over thirty years before this cartoon was supposedly made.

===Goofs===
*When The Sneak's head explodes, his tail disappears.
*The monocle of the rightmost trio member switches eyes at the end of the song.
**Also, the trio member whose head sticks in from the top of the frame during the "Fluffy Puff" scene has his monocle reversed.

=== Inside References ===
*The Sneak being silhouetted and going across hills may be a reference to the [[Old Intro 2]].
*The Sneak's head exploding imitates how present-day [[The Cheat]]'s head will at times [[The Cheat's Head Exploding|randomly detonate]].
*Ward Boss Tweed kicking The Sneak out of Tammany Hall may refer to Strong Bad's frequent [[Kicking The Cheat|kickings of present day The Cheat]].
*The whistle has an engineer's hat like Homsar's in his [[Homsar#Character Video Transcript|character page]].
*The Sneak falling off the cliff is a reference to [[Parsnips A-Plenty]].
*"Boss Tweed gives The Sneak what-for" is a reference to an Easter egg in [[50 emails]], where Old-Timey Strong Bad replies to a telegram with "I'll give you what-for!".
*Bootleg hooch and the political cartoon are references to [[alcohol]].

=== Real-World References===
*"Leporello" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Mozart|Mozart]] opera ''[[Wikipedia:Don Giovanni|Don Giovanni]]''. In it, Leporello is a side-kick to the Spanish legend, [[Wikipedia:Don Juan|Don Juan]] (''Don Giovanni'' is the Italian equivalent).
*"[[Wikipedia:Tammany Hall|Tammany Hall]]" was a political society in [[Wikipedia:New York City|New York City]] (19th/early 20th century), known for its corruption and power. ''William Tweed'' was a strong figure in Tammany, (see below).
[[Image:Boss Tweed.PNG|thumb|right|150px|Boss removes Sneak from Hall]]
*A [[Wikipedia:Editorial cartoon|political cartoon]] appears briefly which features The Sneak getting booted out of a door by a foot that says "Prohibition?" The Sneak has dropped a paper that says "Hoot-Smalley Tarriff" and the caption reads "[[Wikipedia:Boss Tweed|Boss Tweed]] gives The Sneak what-for!"
**The "'''Hoot-Smalley Tarriff'''" is a [[Spoonerism|spoonerized]] play on the "'''[[Wikipedia:Smoot-Hawley Tariff|Smoot-Hawley Tariff]]'''" that was enacted during [[Wikipedia:Great Depression|The Great Depression]], widely considered to be one of the most inept pieces of legislation ever passed by Congress.
*The scene with The Sneak and the record player is a parody of the famous Victor (later [[Wikipedia:RCA|RCA]] Victor) trademark which features a dog named [[wikipedia:Nipper|Nipper]] sitting in front of a Berliner Style 5 gramophone, listening quizzically to "[[Wikipedia:HMV|His Master's Voice]]", the title given to the original painting by artist Francis Barraud.
*"[[Wikipedia:Moxie|Moxie]]" is the name of a soft drink popular during the early 20th century. The name became a slang term meaning liveliness and daring in the late 1920s.
*Bootleg [[Wikipedia:Hooch|Hooch]] (or "''Moonshine''") is homemade whiskey that is produced and/or sold through illegal methods.
*[[Wikipedia:Flapper|Flapper girl]], more commonly "flapper", was a slang term common in the 1920s which referred to young women who flaunted contempt for the restrictions of "decency" imposed on their gender by society. They lived lavishly and openly wore short skirts, used cosmetics, bobbed their hair, and could often be seen smoking or drinking in public, far from what was considered to be acceptable behavior for women in that era. Many cartoon characters from the time period, such as [[Wikipedia:Betty Boop|Betty Boop]] and [[Wikipedia:Minnie Mouse|Minnie Mouse]], for example, were "flappers".
*"What's the rumpus" is a reference to [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100150/ ''Miller's Crossing''], a Prohibition-era gangster movie, in which it is used as a greeting by several characters. This movie is a particular favorite of DaVinci's Notebook.
*The Sir Strong Bad watch is a reference to the old Mickey Mouse watches of the 1930s.
*The scene with The Sneak running inside an I-beam while other characters dance on top may be a visual reference to the old [[Wikipedia:Atari|Atari]] game [http://www.atariage.com/software_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=360 Pitfall]. If nothing else, several cartoons from the time period featured characters playing in the I-beams of construction sites, such as [[Wikipedia:Olive Oyl|Olive Oyl]] when she was hypnotized by [[Wikipedia:Bluto|Bluto]] in a [[Wikipedia:Popeye|Popeye]] cartoon.
*[[Wikipedia:Prohibition|Prohibition]] was established in 1919 by the passage of the [[Wikipedia:Eighteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution|18th amendment]] to the Constitution. It outlawed the sale, manufacture, and transportation of alcoholic beverages. It was eventually repealed in 1933 by the passage of the [[Wikipedia:Twenty-first Amendment to the United States Constitution|21st amendment]].
*"The Kaiser" is how German Emperor [[Wikipedia:Wilhelm II of Germany|Wilhelm II]] was popularly referred to in the U.S. and Britain during World War I. Propaganda-laced political cartoons of the time would often exact comedic revenge on this enemy of Allied forces. The title "[[Wikipedia:Kaiser|Kaiser]]", however, stopped being used in 1918, following the end of World War I and the dissolution of the German Empire.
**The Kaiser is wearing a [[Wikipedia:Pickelhaube|pickelhaube helmet]], a 19th century Prussian invention, which at the time of World War I was outdated, and was relegated mostly to ceremonial garb, as befits a militaristic emperor. Note the [[Wikipedia:Iron cross|Iron Cross]] on the helmet, a German military decoration of the early 19th century, re-introduced by Kaiser Wilhelm II in World War I.
*The train whistle may be a reference to many old cartoons, in which inanimate objects such as train whistles and brooms were depicted as "alive".
*The [[Wikipedia:Panama Canal|Panama Canal]] was established in 1914 as a way to get from the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific Ocean without having to go around South America. It was United States territory until December 31, 1999, when it became Panamanian territory due to the [[Wikipedia:Panama Canal Treaty|Panama Canal Treaty]].
*The mention of [[Wikipedia: jazz|jazz]] refers to jazz's association with wild living, corruption and illegal activity from the Prohibition era, and the fear/disdain with which it was viewed by polite society.

===Fast Forward===

*Sickly Sam attempts the Charleston again in [[Sickly Sam's Big Outing]]

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features '''two''' hidden creators' commentaries. To access them, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
===First Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[DaVinci's Notebook|Paul Sabourin]], [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]], [[DaVinci's Notebook|Storm DiCostanzo]])

'''MIKE:''' ''{sounding muffled throughout}'' All right, so for this commentary we're on a four-way conference call.

'''PAUL:''' ''{also muffled}'' This is Paul Sabourin and Greg DiCostanzo; we are They Might Be Giants and we wrote this song.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' That's only partially true. They did write this song, but they're from DaVinci's Notebook!

'''PAUL:''' That's correct! We, uh, I— As I recall, we sort of stalked you guys, tracked you down in the early days of the website...

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, I gotta be honest, I was a little— the first couple times— 'cause I think you played a couple times in Atlanta and invited us to come, and we were like, "An a capella group?!"

'''STORM:''' ''{not muffled}'' ''{laughs}''

'''PAUL:''' Yeah, that's what we always get.

'''MATT:''' I remember thinking— it was after The Cheat Theme Song had been made and I just thought that it'd be funny if, I— if there was an Old-Timey jingle version of it. Originally it was going to be the jingle for the product that was this wooden The Sneak thing that you trail— like, kids trail behind them on a rope. Back in the, like, thirties?

'''PAUL:''' Uh, Storm, you took the first whack at it, right?

'''STORM:''' Yeah.

'''PAUL:''' Your— this is your baby, more or less.

'''STORM:''' Well, it started out that way. They gave us the— initiated the idea for it, and, you know, we're both big, me— me and Paul are both big fans of the Doo-wacka-doo stuff, and it kinda took on a life of its own.

'''MATT''' or '''MIKE:''' That's really big these days, the Doo-wacka-doo stuff.

'''PAUL:''' Oh yeah, it's coming back.

'''STORM:''' Oh man, the kids ...

'''MATT''' or '''MIKE:''' That's really big, I was watching the TV last night...

'''PAUL:''' Actually, I hear the minuet is going to be the next big thing. From the 1780's...

'''MATT''' or '''MIKE:''' We've got interactive minuets on this DVD.

'''STORM:''' Oh, wow.

'''PAUL:''' Uh, I love that we don't give a crap about historical continuity. You know, it's not all 1936, there's the Smoot-Hawley Tariff of, you know, 1890's or whatever.

'''MATT''' or '''MIKE:''' When you're a kid, if it's the words black and white, it's all the same time.

'''PAUL:''' That's right.

'''STORM:''' Exactly.

'''PAUL:''' Um, oh that, by the way, that head blowing up is my second favorite piece of animation.

'''MATT''' or '''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' That's right. Yeah, because The Cheat's head's always blowing up, so The Sneak's head has got to blow up.

'''PAUL:''' This being my first one, of the growing mustache and the beard spilling over. Just brilliant. Hello?

'''STORM:''' Hello?

'''PAUL:''' Now I've lost The Chaps.

'''STORM:''' Ok. Uh, whatever you did before, do it again.

'''MIKE:''' All right, Mike is here.

'''PAUL:''' Mike is here. Matt is here.

'''MIKE:''' Ooh, look. That Old-Timey version of Coach Z's name is the "Fort Wayne Locomotive".

'''PAUL:''' Is it?

'''STORM:''' ''{laughs}''

'''PAUL:''' ''{garbled}'' You do. I love that.

'''MIKE:''' It's never been revealed yet. It's actually written into a cartoon that we haven't done yet.

'''MATT:''' We love you guys.

'''PAUL:''' We love you guys. You're wonderful, and we await our check with bated breath.

===Second Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[DaVinci's Notebook|Paul Sabourin]], [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]], [[DaVinci's Notebook|Storm DiCostanzo]])

'''STORM:''' Ok.

Hey, alright, welcome to the commentary.

'''STORM:''' So this is "The Ballad of the Sneak" as written by, uh, it was actually- Da Vinci's Notebook was credited, but it was actually ... Hello? Hello?

Matt from Homestar's Notebook, Storm, from Paul Runner.

The Sneak!

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, black and white, it was done in black and white.

'''MATT:''' I think Mike you should say that part about black and white again, I don't think they heard it.

'''STORM:''' Wait, so...

This is a black and white four-way conference call.

'''MATT:''' Say it really slow.

'''STORM:''' We didn't originally think this was going to be a black and white kind of deal.

Where's Storm?

'''STORM:''' They originally asked us for an old version of ...

Number nine, Number Nine.

Storm. Storm.

'''STORM:''' I'm right here.

Storm, say "black and white" really slow, I don't think they got that part.

'''STORM:''' Blaaaaaaaack annnnnnddd whiiiitttteeee.

Who is this? I didn't order this!

'''MATT:''' Ok, that's enough. We don't have time for you any more. We've gotta move on. I've got this magic trick I'd like to show you though.

'''STORM:''' So I did once...

'''MATT:''' This part was great, I remember Mike was out of town for this whole part.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, I was at a softball game, playing, uh, in New Jersey.

'''STORM:''' I can't hear the other guys right now, but um, I can't even see the video, in fact, because I can't run the recording software at the same time that I'm actually talking ''{sound of phone button being pressed}'' because I can't see it.

Paul? Paul? Paul?

'''STORM:''' Hello? Hello? Hello? Is that Missy? Is Missy there?

You're cutting out over Paul.

I was cutting out a star-shape out blue construction paper I thought.

Is this the show commentary we're doing?

'''STORM:''' Wait a second. No one said there was going to be anything about construction paper in the commentary.

...My Michelle.

Did you just say you wrote "My Michelle"?

Did you hear from our lawyers?

'''STORM:''' Is the video still on?

I'm one of your lawyers.

'''STORM:''' Is the video still on? Is the video still on?

Fluffy Puff, I love Fluffy Puff.

Someone's at the door.

'''STORM:''' Is the video still on?

Hello, um...

'''STORM:''' Number nine

Number nine.

'''STORM:''' Number nine.

No, this is great.

'''STORM:''' I buried Paul.

When does Pom-Pom show up? I want Pom-Pom.

'''STORM:''' I buried Paul.

At the count of three, at the count of three let's all, we'll introduce ourselves.

What?

'''STORM:''' What?

Ok.

'''STORM:''' I'll introduce you.

This is great.

Five, four

'''STORM:''' Three, two one. Um, that's Mike over there, um, and I'm Storm, and I'm still pissed off about the construction paper. And, is the video still on?

''{laughter}''

===Fun Facts===
* [[Wikipedia:Michelle (song)|My Michelle]] and [[Wikipedia:Revolution 9|Number Nine]] are both lines from songs by [[The Beatles]]. "I buried Paul" is a part of the [[Wikipedia:Paul Is Dead|Paul Is Dead]] conspiracy, and is the rumored final line of [[Wikipedia:Strawberry Fields Forever|Strawberry Fields Forever]], also by the Beatles. The actual line is "cranberry sauce." Number Nine is also part of the Paul Is Dead conspiracy.

== See Also ==
*The [[Ballad of The Sneak Visuals|visuals]] that occur during the film.
*[[DaVinci's Notebook#The Making of Ballad of The Sneak|The Making of ''Ballad of The Sneak'']]

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sneakvideo.html|watch "Ballad of The Sneak"]]
*[[HR:sneakvideo.swf|view the Flash file for "Ballad of The Sneak"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|sneakvideo}}

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Talk:Ballad of The Sneak

2008-03-26T18:57:52Z

Frazz: /* "The Dapper Swindler" or "That Dapper Swindler"? */

As regards [[The Kaiser]], could this also be a reference to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser_Wilhelm Kaiser Wilhelm II]?

:I don't think so. TBC just used The Kaiser as a title for a "kingly" person. Kaiser is (or was) a fairly common term for a ruler. It's not a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 23:42, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

On the Kaiserly subject, in 1936, The Kaiser would hardly be a hated figure in lieu of the influence of Hitler. Could this be qualified as a "goof?"

Are we sure it's "flapper girls" and not "clever girls"? "Flapper" would be the obvious historical reference, but the word sounds more like "clever" to me, and "flapper girl" seems redundant - I've not researched this point, but I've always understood "flapper" stood on its own, without needing to be a modifier for "girl".

:I listened to it really closely and it sounds like "flapper" to me. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

:I always here "clever". {{User:Salty/sig}} 07:03, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

:I'm pretty sure it's "glamour girls" [[User:220.0.164.117|220.0.164.117]] 02:41, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

::I also heard "clever girls", but how about Clabber Girls? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 17:05, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

:::I've always heard "clever". I slowed it down in Audacity and I didn't detect any 'f' or 'p' sounds. It makes sense because in the 'old timey' era, clever was used more to mean good-natured/healthy/amiable and would be a fitting adjective for girls you'd want to get the affections of. [[User:4.155.0.52|4.155.0.52]] 03:50, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

== flying machine? I herd spying machine. ==

flying machine sounded like spying machine. anyone else agree?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 07:38, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
:it's flying machine. it makes sense because the homestar runner is injured, probably because he fell out of his flying machine. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 19:46, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::I also heard spying machine. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 02:55, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

== DVD version ==

Why is it taking so long to get the commentary for the DVD? {{User:Gnome of Fury/sig}} 15:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:Because there are many people in the transcript. I might take a go at it later today. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 15:14, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

== The Fort-Wayne Locamotive ==

Does anyone else but me think he DID have a speaking role ? I heard him say 28 skidoo .. Other views ?
:I thought he did too... {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 19:03, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

==Jazz==

I was wondering if the phonograph record blowing up in the Sneak's face relates to the anti-jazz cartoons that had slapstick accidents occurring to listeners of jazz. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 02:55, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

==Smart or Short==

I heard "He's small and short and yellow.", not "He's small and smart and yellow." [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 02:54, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

== STORM monologue ==

Storm seems to be having a conversation with himself in the second transcript. Could someone fix that?
:The transcript is like that, because the quality of the commentary is rather low, and it's hard to identify any of the other speakers. As such, most lines are uncredited. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:48, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

=="Quite unique"==

I'm not sure if this is a big enough deal to add to the article, but the phrase "quite unique" is poor grammar. Unique means "one of a kind" and cannot be used comparatively, nor does it take modifiers like "quite," "more," "very," etc. [[User:Wear a Bikini|Wear a Bikini]] 19:03, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
:While it's a pet peeve of mine when people modify "unique" with quantifiers, it's very common, and I don't think the misuse is notable. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

==Prohibition==

Not all counties repealed prohibition in the thirties. Some have yet to do so. They are known as "dry counties". [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 16:54, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

==Small and sort of yellow==

I'm not hearing the M. I originally heard "Small and short and yellow". Now I hear "small and sort of yellow".

== My Michelle... ==

I'm pretty sure My Michelle is a song by Guns 'N' Roses. Since they say in the commentary '''My''' Michelle and not just Michelle, I think it's a reference to the GnR song, not the Beatles song. --[[User:Dementedc|Dementedc]] 13:05, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

== "The Dapper Swindler" or "That Dapper Swindler"? ==

Yet another lyrics contesting. Anyway, I heard that. Actually, it sounds like Japper to me, but I'll leave that up to people who know what a Dapper is. So, the or that?
([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 22:49, 2 March 2008 (UTC))

Ok then, I'll go ahead and change it. ([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 18:57, 26 March 2008 (UTC))

Talk:Ballad of The Sneak

2008-03-02T22:49:50Z

Frazz: /**/"The Dapper Swindler" or "That Dapper Swindler"?

User:Frazz

2007-03-30T05:58:14Z

Frazz:

*ME
Well, me is me, and that's that.
*Soooooo.....
ya.

Talk:HomestarRunner.com: PAY PLUS!

2007-03-30T05:57:12Z

Frazz: /* I CONFUSED */ Uuuum... deleted cause it was basically spam anyway... Maybe it should be archived? Oh well, somebody will revert it if it really matters. Can somebody clarify this on my talk page?

== Initial Reactions ==

Now I have to pay to watch Homestar Runner? D*** you TBC, You smart devils you! --67.180.104.181 06:21, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

:Uuuh, you do know this is an april fools joke? Or were you being sarcastic? --[[User:Ooy|Futuramaooy]] 07:45, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

:I didn't think that a PREMIUM Homestar Runner was possible. Unless TBC has been holding out on us... Why am I up so early? -- Vooki -- 05:00, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)

:The real April Fool's prank: this isn't a joke. This is the REAL THING, people! --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]] 10:14, 1 Apr '05

Great going building building that in such a hurry

:Same content! New yearly price! MORE BANNER ADS! How could we lose? I'm definitely subscribing! It's definitely worth it. I loved the seven second trial. -- [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 15:03, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

:I looked at it, and thought "what the f-" until I realized it was an April Fool's Joke. I typed in the URL for the 1st main page, and got through and celebrated by watching SB Email #1. :P But anyway, The Chapman Brothers almost had me going! --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]] 16:51, 1 Apr 2005 (CST)
::Me, too. --[[User:71.34.228.156|71.34.228.156]] 20:38, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
::I was looking forward to something interesting happening on H*R for April Fools Day all week, so I was prepared. :) --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 16:24, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

== Webcam Conversation ==

The Webcam Conversation with the creators/someone else reminds me of the interview TBC had on The Screensavers. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:56, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

== P2W ==

TBC could be looking to make money now because on one of their TSS's interviews they started being funny about trying to make money off the site now and how rich they are.

They DO make money off the site. What, do you think they just give away that merchandise? -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

== Background Tile? ==

Where in PAY PLUS is the background tile [http://www.homestarrunner.com/payplustile.jpg] used? It's obviously somewhere in PAY PLUS, but I can't find where it is in the toon/EXCITING SUBSCRIPTION OPPURTUNITY!/feature. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] 22:56, 1 Apr 2005 (BST)

:I can't find it either. -- [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 15:03, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
::From the page's source code:
<pre><BODY background="payplustile.jpg"></pre>
::That answer anything? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 20:05, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

:::It's the background. Look around, up and down [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!]]

== Homestar Invaders ==

Is anyone able to beat this in 7 seconds? I got really, REALLY close... as in, my final shot was pixels away from the final guy. I wonder what happens when you win?
:Although I haven't beaten it before, people who have say that the wave just resets; nothing interesting. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:39, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Tiz true

(from pertmywert)

Yeah, it just resets.

== Closed STUFF ==

===False Advertising===

'''ACCEPTED'''

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

*'''INFINITELY STRONG ACCEPT-erson!!!!!!!!!''' Why in the world was this stuffed???????????--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:25, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** '''Decline''' Because the fact is redundant? Theres already a fact explaining that the toon is a joke on pay sites. Theres also another fact pointing out that the material in this toon doesn't actually appear anywhere else on the site. ''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's accurate and not obvious from the page itself. I won't miss it if it gets voted down though. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:48, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I think this was ment to be an ironic insider joke. Irony does not necessarily make a "fun" fact, but maybe it can be rewritten as an inside reference. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Accept''' Fairly obvious, but a bit of a fun fact nonetheless.[[User:GreatG|GreatG]]
*'''Strong Accept.''' This goes under the file of "not everything needs to be STUFF'd! Let's leave it to the fun facts that deserve it, guys. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:48, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' It's slightly obvious now, but the information about how many emails there actually WAS at the time will make this Fun Fact more interesting as time goes on. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 05:04, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' Fine by me. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''ANTI-Accept''' Are all of you people serious?? If this goes up, it ought to be combined with the "this is a parody of websites becoming paysites" fact. It certainly shouldn't stand alone IMHO. It's redundant because the fact that the whole thing is based on pay sites is ALREADY STATED. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Like I said, if we accept this then we should list the other inaccuracies in the toon. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Uh, no we don't. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:27, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Uh, yes we do. There isn't anything different or special about this fact. Heck, even when they do make it to 230 e-mails it won't matter because when they reach 231 it becomes wrong again. People can get the joke without having a fun fact for it. If we accept this then we might as well list all the others. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Uh, no we don't, because not all the rest of them really deserve to be listed. This one does. And now, I upgrade my vote to '''Infinite Accept,''' with a small revision to include the e-mail total at the time. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:58, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***Donny's right, you know. Are we going to write separate facts involving the misrepresentation of "actual screenshots" or "answering machines out the wazoo"? I think the fact that currently resides on the Pay Plus page is just fine (it only mentions misrepresentation, rather than giving any and all examples), but I'd still rather combine it with the above fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:15, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' I dunno if I'm even allowed to post this. This sounds good as a fact though. [[User: MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]]
*'''Accept''' This is an amusing fact. I didn't notice it until I saw it here. The reason I frequent this site is to help me notice such things. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''INFINITELY SECONDIZING!''' I'ma change my vote a little bit: I LOVE THIS FUN FACT!!! PLEEZ KEEP IT![[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 14:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' It's quite obvious it's way off, so I agree. --[[User:StarWarsMonkey|StarWarsMonkey :-)]]

===Hom Sar Ref===
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]

*'''Decline''' It doesn't sound to me like he pronounces it "gee-ames". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It is probably unintended by the creators. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:55, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' No offence, ISlayedTheKerrek, but the Homsar Main Page transcript is just one person's interpretation of what he says. When I listen to it, it could be James, but it could also be Gee-ames, too. -BlueNose
** It isn't GEE-AMES, and anyone who scrolls over the word "games" in the Homsar page will clearly hear him say James. If you hear Gee-Ames, I seriously suggest you get your ears checked. Oh, and sign your vote properly. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:45, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** Well, actually, it's a bit more ambiguous if you hover over "Games" quickly and pull the cursor away before the weight falls. But it's even ''further'' from GEE-AMES that way, so '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Homsar says no such thing. [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]] 4 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' Sewiously, this is wediculous. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:57, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Actually, it's not. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' To re-iterate: Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Sounds more like "James!" to me. --[[User:Uh! Bob|<tt>'''''Úħ¡βøв'''''</tt>]] 14:55, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Not Approved!''' Are you having a problem making a good fun fact or something? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:49, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Approve.''' What Homsar is saying on the main page actually sounds more like "Jane" to me... but "Gee-ames" sounds like the kind of things that guy says. I think I heard him say that a couple of times. - Dingell
**I'm only gonna say this one more time. It's "James." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:53, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Should you really be accepting a fact based on what you think he should say rather than what he actually does say? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*** I'm not basing it on what I think he should say. I base it on what I hear. And I hear "James." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:52, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
****I was commenting on Dingell's vote. If you've read this section at all, you'll see I've been agreeing with you all along. Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*****Sorry, dude. Disregard previous comment--wasn't paying attention. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*I'll repeat it: it's not NECESSARILY James - try hovering over Games for just a split-second and pulling the cursor away before the weight appears. It sounds more like "Jeng" or, as Dengell said above, "Jane" - there's no audible "S". Which only makes it sound LESS like GEE-AMES, so my vote remains a decline. --[[User:
===Trial Game origin===
The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

*'''Decline.''' It's a reference to Space Invaders. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:03, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** Ooops, yeah, I was rather vague there, wasn't I? I didn't mean the style of game, I meant the actual nuts and bolts of the thing. The 'engine', as it were. I know such recycling would be relevant if it caused a bug or something else really obvious, like the VCR in SBEmail114 "The Facts" did, but this is harmless, so I wanted a judgement on it. [[User:The Archon|The Archon]] 18:13, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It actually uses code from the games menu '''and''' Armless Invaders. But who expects them to code a new game just for an April Fools gag? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' While I disagree that they wouldn't code a new game just for an April Fools' gag, I do agree that this fact is unnecessary and somewhat inaccurate. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:59, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Whats Her Face's lack of appearance===
For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.
* '''Decline''' Noted in the transcript, and it's hardly an interesting remark regardless of such. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 07:57, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' It's certainly worth noting, and I didn't notice it the first time around. Keep it. [[User:little-man|little-man]] 14:09, 3 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline.''' Since there IS no reason for her absence, there's no reason to mention it. It's not necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 18:01, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' And who knows how far into the preview the clip was? She may have already been killed off. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
**'''Seconding the second second?''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]

=== Special Appearance (declined) ===
Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.
* '''Da Cline''' Then add him to the list of cast members. This isn't a fun fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:45, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Which toon is this? Seven Seconds? Trap Door? Wheelchair Kid? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:22, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** None - it means, the fourth screen of the subscription notice. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:51, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Oh, thanks. I thought he meant "fourth frame" of the 'toon. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 15:53, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Lil John (declined)===
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" may be a reference to Lil John from Lil John and the East Side Boyz.

*'''Rewrite''' Uh huh... so HOW and WHY is it a reference to Lil John? If you can prove this, then it can be accepted. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 11:01, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Response''' I think he means how Lil' Jon says stuff like "YEE-AAAH!" [[User:The Jolly Dumple|The Jolly Dumple]] 4:17 PM, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)
**'''Response''' Well, then, the person who wrote this fun fact should have said that. Keep in mind, however, that almost every rapper in existence says stuff like that. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:42, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''', unless Jolly Dumple is right. If he is, then '''Decline'''. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:56, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' Seriously, dump any fact that relies on phrases like "might be". Especially if its about TBC referring to something obscure. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Third.''' I'm agreeing with you on this one - these "might be" references are way too numerous, and in most cases, they're opinions. Hell, even the phrase "might be" is subjective to begin with. I propose an automatic deletion to any Fun Fact that uses this phrase. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:56, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
****'''FOURTH'D!''' [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*****ARROW'D... I mean, '''FIFTH'D''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*****'''Comment.''' <strike>I have this matter in a poll over on the forums - please go vote so we can reach a consensus on what to do with these kinds of items.</strike> Never mind - some admin locked it, even though the other current poll doesn't deal with the issue at hand. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

===Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio (declined)===

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].

* '''Decline'''. Umm... There are several other references to this. 1. [[Arcade Game]]: "in da basement -sb", why would Strong Bad put this if they were on the same level? 2. [[strongbad_email.exe]] (All discs): The camera transition to the Bonus Stuff menu infers that the basement is downstairs. And... that's all I can think of. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 00:16, 3 Apr 2005 (BST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:35, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' In [[morning routine]] they might have just skipped the part where Strong Bad goes up the stairs for the sake of saving time. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 18:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Hear here - showing Strong Bad go up and down stairs would take a whole new set of animation. Why bother? Traversing stairs isn't integral to the toon. Also see Venusy's comment above regarding "Arcade Game". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 18:03, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*I don't have the Email DVD, so I wouldn't know. And I just thought we should point out that this is the first time we see this. I've seen Fun Facts state that it was the first instance you see something when it is obvious and probably shouldn't be pointed out. And as for the note in [[Arcade Game]], characters point out things that you can see obviously all the time, and maybe the computer room and the basement were two different rooms in the whole basement. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 10:36, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**But why would Strong Bad leave a note saying they were in the basement IN the basement? '''Decline''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*If you think [[Arcade Game]] is the first sighting of the difference between the computer room and the basement, then why don't you just list that under Fun Facts on ''it''? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:42, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Because the appearance in Arcade Game is self-explanatory. When someone says they're "in da basement," it's safe to assume you're going to have to go down stairs in order to get to where that person is. There's no reason to state this in that e-mail, and as such, there really is no reason for it to be stated in this one. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Decline.''' It's self-explanatory that one would need to go down into a basement. So just because a character hasn't been seen going down the stairs doesn't mean that the basement is right next to the computer room...Then it wouldn't be a basement, would it?---[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 14:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Tall homestar?===
In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!

*'''Infinite Decline.''' Unimportant. And besides, how do YOU know that 3/4 of Homestar's body is there? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' It didn't look that way to me; in any case, made-up measurements are bleh. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 14:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Homestar's two feet fell into the trap. Therefore, it's a "two-foot trap."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:44, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Two-foot second''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Accept.''' It's rare to get even a rough indication of the characters' sizes. I wonder if this is consistent with the dimensions of Strong Sad in 'The Facts' - Dingell
*'''Del Taco''' Wasn't he stopped by Strong Mad's head? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:45, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Oh, yeah. Forgot about that, didn't you, whoever posted this fun fact? Hey, Dingell, might wanna change your vote there. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:42, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad didn't take a measurement of the pit, he never had any prior knowledge of how deep it was: he expected it to be a bottomless pit, and in his exasperation at The Cheat's failure to install such, he just randomly picked two feet as a way to say it was far too shallow. By your logic, if he said one foot, Homestar would only be a foot into the pit, and if he said three feet, then Homestar would have three feet of his legs in it, and Strong Bad could have verily used either to express his lack of satisfaction. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:29, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
***'''Third!'''-[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:15, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
****'''WHAT EVA COMES AFTER THIRD!'''
*SB was exsagerateing

===Updated for the 90's===
Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.

*'''Decline''' - This was just a joke. Seriously. I think TBC know when they started TGS. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who forgot to login]] 5:30 PM, 5 Apr 2005 (EST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment''' But hey, did you know there were only 127 Strong Bad E-mails up when this toon was made? I think TBC know how many SBemails they've made. -- [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' Um...tell me what that has to do with me, please? -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who remembered to login today.]] 5:00 PM, 6 Apr 2005 (EST)
*I'm saying theres another fact above thats just like this one and is being accepted but is equally worthless. Wasn't meant to be personal, sorry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' Oh, well, sorry for over-reacting, then. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar]] 8:12 PM, 7 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline,''' and the fun fact in reference is worth something, unlike this, which is crap. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:49, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:24, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' But "crap" is a little harsh. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:40, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Duh.''' Did you even understand this e-mail? [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Comment''' H*R wasn't even up until 2001, wasn't it? -[[User:Color Printer|Color Printer]]
Did anyone notice that when the "email Show" clip is playing, you can still click the button?
[[Image:nobutton.jpg|thumb|Missing Button]]

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=== Sailor Girl Squad! ===
{{stufffact|The plugs given in reference to Teen Girl Squad may refer to the animé series Sailor Moon, which was revamped for the '90s in North America and had many episodes cut (including two where everybody dies.)}}
{{stuffverdict|14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)|01:18, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)|narrowly declined|16|14|HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!}}

== No button ==
*When I loaded up the pay plus, on the third page the "Continue free tour" button was missing. Anybody know why? --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:18, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

== Q? ==

On the Gee-ames page, there is something to enter with a Q: and you fill it up. But why? and with what?-[[Amy Whifflepoof|That guy]]
:Nothing. It's an imitation login (see the first page of H*R.comPP). But since it's not REALLY a ay site, you can't log in, and you can't do anything with that edit space. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:19, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Funny or Footy? ==

I know my opinion isn't very agreed with here, but I'd like to state it anyways. In the email demo, I'm pretty positive Strong Mad says "I HAVE A FOOTY HAT!" rather than "FUNNY HAT." This is supported by the fact that his hat is indeed feet. Your thoughts? [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 13:49, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)
: It makes H*R-logic sense, but he says "Funny" pretty clearly (er, as clearly as Strong Mad ever speaks.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:18, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:: After listening to it a few times at full blast I think I agree. But I still won't rule out the possibility of it being 'FOOTY'. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 02:22, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::: While it may help some people, I find that full blast does not yield the same quality as headphones in a quiet room. (It's "funny." I hear no trace of any hard consonants in that word.) —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:26, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:::I'm not arguing here or nothing, but I just want to state that people tend to relax the 'T' sound in some words (including 'footy') to sound like a 'D' sound. (and I agree that full blast doesn't really do much) [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 02:30, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Just to be safe/sure ==

This is mearly a april fools joke right? you wont have money taken oof your credit card?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 00:44, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
:Yep, that's right. It's just a joke. Don't worry. =) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
Remember, they can only take your money if you give them your info.
Btw, the second time I ever went to this site, I saw this thing (April 1 didn't click with me at that moment). Fun stuff. :Þ ([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 05:52, 30 March 2007 (UTC))

== Some remark of sorts ==

In the first screen, it says $12.95 monthly; however, at the screen where the person is supposed to enter personal information, it says $19.95 a month. Talk about ''more'' contradiction. --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 23:41, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

== DVD Version ==

Don't you think there should be a section listing the changes made for Everything Else, Volume 2? Can you still play the sample game or fill out the form, or is the form gone? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:58, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
:If no one answers my questions I should probably add a section stub. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:56, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
::The sample game is now just a video of the sample game being played. You cannot fill the form in (or hit submit). A little button marked "main" has been added to every frame of the menu, to allow you to get back to the main menu. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 03:04, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

== Detail on Explenations ==

The Explenations say:
The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This spoofs how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content. However, this may be a reference to a perk of subscribing (viewing unaired Strong Bad E-mails).

Specifically,
However, this may be a reference to a perk of subscribing (viewing unaired Strong Bad E-mails).
Frankly, I think that's wrong. The entire site is basically making you pay for something you've already done/seen for free, not for actual content.
I think this should be removed.([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 05:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC))

Talk:HomestarRunner.com: PAY PLUS!

2007-03-30T05:52:23Z

Frazz: /* Just to be safe/sure */

== Initial Reactions ==

Now I have to pay to watch Homestar Runner? D*** you TBC, You smart devils you! --67.180.104.181 06:21, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

:Uuuh, you do know this is an april fools joke? Or were you being sarcastic? --[[User:Ooy|Futuramaooy]] 07:45, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

:I didn't think that a PREMIUM Homestar Runner was possible. Unless TBC has been holding out on us... Why am I up so early? -- Vooki -- 05:00, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)

:The real April Fool's prank: this isn't a joke. This is the REAL THING, people! --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]] 10:14, 1 Apr '05

Great going building building that in such a hurry

:Same content! New yearly price! MORE BANNER ADS! How could we lose? I'm definitely subscribing! It's definitely worth it. I loved the seven second trial. -- [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 15:03, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

:I looked at it, and thought "what the f-" until I realized it was an April Fool's Joke. I typed in the URL for the 1st main page, and got through and celebrated by watching SB Email #1. :P But anyway, The Chapman Brothers almost had me going! --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]] 16:51, 1 Apr 2005 (CST)
::Me, too. --[[User:71.34.228.156|71.34.228.156]] 20:38, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
::I was looking forward to something interesting happening on H*R for April Fools Day all week, so I was prepared. :) --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 16:24, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

== Webcam Conversation ==

The Webcam Conversation with the creators/someone else reminds me of the interview TBC had on The Screensavers. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:56, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

== P2W ==

TBC could be looking to make money now because on one of their TSS's interviews they started being funny about trying to make money off the site now and how rich they are.

They DO make money off the site. What, do you think they just give away that merchandise? -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

== Background Tile? ==

Where in PAY PLUS is the background tile [http://www.homestarrunner.com/payplustile.jpg] used? It's obviously somewhere in PAY PLUS, but I can't find where it is in the toon/EXCITING SUBSCRIPTION OPPURTUNITY!/feature. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] 22:56, 1 Apr 2005 (BST)

:I can't find it either. -- [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 15:03, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
::From the page's source code:
<pre><BODY background="payplustile.jpg"></pre>
::That answer anything? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 20:05, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

:::It's the background. Look around, up and down [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!]]

== Homestar Invaders ==

Is anyone able to beat this in 7 seconds? I got really, REALLY close... as in, my final shot was pixels away from the final guy. I wonder what happens when you win?
:Although I haven't beaten it before, people who have say that the wave just resets; nothing interesting. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:39, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Tiz true

(from pertmywert)

Yeah, it just resets.

== Closed STUFF ==

===False Advertising===

'''ACCEPTED'''

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

*'''INFINITELY STRONG ACCEPT-erson!!!!!!!!!''' Why in the world was this stuffed???????????--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:25, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** '''Decline''' Because the fact is redundant? Theres already a fact explaining that the toon is a joke on pay sites. Theres also another fact pointing out that the material in this toon doesn't actually appear anywhere else on the site. ''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's accurate and not obvious from the page itself. I won't miss it if it gets voted down though. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:48, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I think this was ment to be an ironic insider joke. Irony does not necessarily make a "fun" fact, but maybe it can be rewritten as an inside reference. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Accept''' Fairly obvious, but a bit of a fun fact nonetheless.[[User:GreatG|GreatG]]
*'''Strong Accept.''' This goes under the file of "not everything needs to be STUFF'd! Let's leave it to the fun facts that deserve it, guys. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:48, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' It's slightly obvious now, but the information about how many emails there actually WAS at the time will make this Fun Fact more interesting as time goes on. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 05:04, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' Fine by me. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''ANTI-Accept''' Are all of you people serious?? If this goes up, it ought to be combined with the "this is a parody of websites becoming paysites" fact. It certainly shouldn't stand alone IMHO. It's redundant because the fact that the whole thing is based on pay sites is ALREADY STATED. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Like I said, if we accept this then we should list the other inaccuracies in the toon. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Uh, no we don't. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:27, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Uh, yes we do. There isn't anything different or special about this fact. Heck, even when they do make it to 230 e-mails it won't matter because when they reach 231 it becomes wrong again. People can get the joke without having a fun fact for it. If we accept this then we might as well list all the others. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Uh, no we don't, because not all the rest of them really deserve to be listed. This one does. And now, I upgrade my vote to '''Infinite Accept,''' with a small revision to include the e-mail total at the time. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:58, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***Donny's right, you know. Are we going to write separate facts involving the misrepresentation of "actual screenshots" or "answering machines out the wazoo"? I think the fact that currently resides on the Pay Plus page is just fine (it only mentions misrepresentation, rather than giving any and all examples), but I'd still rather combine it with the above fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:15, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' I dunno if I'm even allowed to post this. This sounds good as a fact though. [[User: MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]]
*'''Accept''' This is an amusing fact. I didn't notice it until I saw it here. The reason I frequent this site is to help me notice such things. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''INFINITELY SECONDIZING!''' I'ma change my vote a little bit: I LOVE THIS FUN FACT!!! PLEEZ KEEP IT![[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 14:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' It's quite obvious it's way off, so I agree. --[[User:StarWarsMonkey|StarWarsMonkey :-)]]

===Hom Sar Ref===
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]

*'''Decline''' It doesn't sound to me like he pronounces it "gee-ames". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It is probably unintended by the creators. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:55, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' No offence, ISlayedTheKerrek, but the Homsar Main Page transcript is just one person's interpretation of what he says. When I listen to it, it could be James, but it could also be Gee-ames, too. -BlueNose
** It isn't GEE-AMES, and anyone who scrolls over the word "games" in the Homsar page will clearly hear him say James. If you hear Gee-Ames, I seriously suggest you get your ears checked. Oh, and sign your vote properly. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:45, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** Well, actually, it's a bit more ambiguous if you hover over "Games" quickly and pull the cursor away before the weight falls. But it's even ''further'' from GEE-AMES that way, so '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Homsar says no such thing. [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]] 4 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' Sewiously, this is wediculous. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:57, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Actually, it's not. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' To re-iterate: Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Sounds more like "James!" to me. --[[User:Uh! Bob|<tt>'''''Úħ¡βøв'''''</tt>]] 14:55, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Not Approved!''' Are you having a problem making a good fun fact or something? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:49, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Approve.''' What Homsar is saying on the main page actually sounds more like "Jane" to me... but "Gee-ames" sounds like the kind of things that guy says. I think I heard him say that a couple of times. - Dingell
**I'm only gonna say this one more time. It's "James." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:53, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Should you really be accepting a fact based on what you think he should say rather than what he actually does say? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*** I'm not basing it on what I think he should say. I base it on what I hear. And I hear "James." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:52, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
****I was commenting on Dingell's vote. If you've read this section at all, you'll see I've been agreeing with you all along. Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*****Sorry, dude. Disregard previous comment--wasn't paying attention. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*I'll repeat it: it's not NECESSARILY James - try hovering over Games for just a split-second and pulling the cursor away before the weight appears. It sounds more like "Jeng" or, as Dengell said above, "Jane" - there's no audible "S". Which only makes it sound LESS like GEE-AMES, so my vote remains a decline. --[[User:
===Trial Game origin===
The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

*'''Decline.''' It's a reference to Space Invaders. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:03, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** Ooops, yeah, I was rather vague there, wasn't I? I didn't mean the style of game, I meant the actual nuts and bolts of the thing. The 'engine', as it were. I know such recycling would be relevant if it caused a bug or something else really obvious, like the VCR in SBEmail114 "The Facts" did, but this is harmless, so I wanted a judgement on it. [[User:The Archon|The Archon]] 18:13, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It actually uses code from the games menu '''and''' Armless Invaders. But who expects them to code a new game just for an April Fools gag? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' While I disagree that they wouldn't code a new game just for an April Fools' gag, I do agree that this fact is unnecessary and somewhat inaccurate. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:59, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Whats Her Face's lack of appearance===
For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.
* '''Decline''' Noted in the transcript, and it's hardly an interesting remark regardless of such. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 07:57, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' It's certainly worth noting, and I didn't notice it the first time around. Keep it. [[User:little-man|little-man]] 14:09, 3 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline.''' Since there IS no reason for her absence, there's no reason to mention it. It's not necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 18:01, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' And who knows how far into the preview the clip was? She may have already been killed off. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
**'''Seconding the second second?''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]

=== Special Appearance (declined) ===
Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.
* '''Da Cline''' Then add him to the list of cast members. This isn't a fun fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:45, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Which toon is this? Seven Seconds? Trap Door? Wheelchair Kid? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:22, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** None - it means, the fourth screen of the subscription notice. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:51, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Oh, thanks. I thought he meant "fourth frame" of the 'toon. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 15:53, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Lil John (declined)===
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" may be a reference to Lil John from Lil John and the East Side Boyz.

*'''Rewrite''' Uh huh... so HOW and WHY is it a reference to Lil John? If you can prove this, then it can be accepted. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 11:01, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Response''' I think he means how Lil' Jon says stuff like "YEE-AAAH!" [[User:The Jolly Dumple|The Jolly Dumple]] 4:17 PM, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)
**'''Response''' Well, then, the person who wrote this fun fact should have said that. Keep in mind, however, that almost every rapper in existence says stuff like that. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:42, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''', unless Jolly Dumple is right. If he is, then '''Decline'''. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:56, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' Seriously, dump any fact that relies on phrases like "might be". Especially if its about TBC referring to something obscure. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Third.''' I'm agreeing with you on this one - these "might be" references are way too numerous, and in most cases, they're opinions. Hell, even the phrase "might be" is subjective to begin with. I propose an automatic deletion to any Fun Fact that uses this phrase. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:56, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
****'''FOURTH'D!''' [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*****ARROW'D... I mean, '''FIFTH'D''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*****'''Comment.''' <strike>I have this matter in a poll over on the forums - please go vote so we can reach a consensus on what to do with these kinds of items.</strike> Never mind - some admin locked it, even though the other current poll doesn't deal with the issue at hand. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

===Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio (declined)===

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].

* '''Decline'''. Umm... There are several other references to this. 1. [[Arcade Game]]: "in da basement -sb", why would Strong Bad put this if they were on the same level? 2. [[strongbad_email.exe]] (All discs): The camera transition to the Bonus Stuff menu infers that the basement is downstairs. And... that's all I can think of. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 00:16, 3 Apr 2005 (BST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:35, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' In [[morning routine]] they might have just skipped the part where Strong Bad goes up the stairs for the sake of saving time. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 18:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Hear here - showing Strong Bad go up and down stairs would take a whole new set of animation. Why bother? Traversing stairs isn't integral to the toon. Also see Venusy's comment above regarding "Arcade Game". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 18:03, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*I don't have the Email DVD, so I wouldn't know. And I just thought we should point out that this is the first time we see this. I've seen Fun Facts state that it was the first instance you see something when it is obvious and probably shouldn't be pointed out. And as for the note in [[Arcade Game]], characters point out things that you can see obviously all the time, and maybe the computer room and the basement were two different rooms in the whole basement. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 10:36, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**But why would Strong Bad leave a note saying they were in the basement IN the basement? '''Decline''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*If you think [[Arcade Game]] is the first sighting of the difference between the computer room and the basement, then why don't you just list that under Fun Facts on ''it''? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:42, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Because the appearance in Arcade Game is self-explanatory. When someone says they're "in da basement," it's safe to assume you're going to have to go down stairs in order to get to where that person is. There's no reason to state this in that e-mail, and as such, there really is no reason for it to be stated in this one. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Decline.''' It's self-explanatory that one would need to go down into a basement. So just because a character hasn't been seen going down the stairs doesn't mean that the basement is right next to the computer room...Then it wouldn't be a basement, would it?---[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 14:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Tall homestar?===
In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!

*'''Infinite Decline.''' Unimportant. And besides, how do YOU know that 3/4 of Homestar's body is there? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' It didn't look that way to me; in any case, made-up measurements are bleh. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 14:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Homestar's two feet fell into the trap. Therefore, it's a "two-foot trap."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:44, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Two-foot second''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Accept.''' It's rare to get even a rough indication of the characters' sizes. I wonder if this is consistent with the dimensions of Strong Sad in 'The Facts' - Dingell
*'''Del Taco''' Wasn't he stopped by Strong Mad's head? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:45, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Oh, yeah. Forgot about that, didn't you, whoever posted this fun fact? Hey, Dingell, might wanna change your vote there. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:42, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad didn't take a measurement of the pit, he never had any prior knowledge of how deep it was: he expected it to be a bottomless pit, and in his exasperation at The Cheat's failure to install such, he just randomly picked two feet as a way to say it was far too shallow. By your logic, if he said one foot, Homestar would only be a foot into the pit, and if he said three feet, then Homestar would have three feet of his legs in it, and Strong Bad could have verily used either to express his lack of satisfaction. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:29, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
***'''Third!'''-[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:15, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
****'''WHAT EVA COMES AFTER THIRD!'''
*SB was exsagerateing

===Updated for the 90's===
Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.

*'''Decline''' - This was just a joke. Seriously. I think TBC know when they started TGS. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who forgot to login]] 5:30 PM, 5 Apr 2005 (EST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment''' But hey, did you know there were only 127 Strong Bad E-mails up when this toon was made? I think TBC know how many SBemails they've made. -- [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' Um...tell me what that has to do with me, please? -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who remembered to login today.]] 5:00 PM, 6 Apr 2005 (EST)
*I'm saying theres another fact above thats just like this one and is being accepted but is equally worthless. Wasn't meant to be personal, sorry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' Oh, well, sorry for over-reacting, then. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar]] 8:12 PM, 7 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline,''' and the fun fact in reference is worth something, unlike this, which is crap. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:49, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:24, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' But "crap" is a little harsh. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:40, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Duh.''' Did you even understand this e-mail? [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Comment''' H*R wasn't even up until 2001, wasn't it? -[[User:Color Printer|Color Printer]]
Did anyone notice that when the "email Show" clip is playing, you can still click the button?
[[Image:nobutton.jpg|thumb|Missing Button]]

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=== Sailor Girl Squad! ===
{{stufffact|The plugs given in reference to Teen Girl Squad may refer to the animé series Sailor Moon, which was revamped for the '90s in North America and had many episodes cut (including two where everybody dies.)}}
{{stuffverdict|14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)|01:18, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)|narrowly declined|16|14|HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!}}

== No button ==
*When I loaded up the pay plus, on the third page the "Continue free tour" button was missing. Anybody know why? --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:18, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

== Q? ==

On the Gee-ames page, there is something to enter with a Q: and you fill it up. But why? and with what?-[[Amy Whifflepoof|That guy]]
:Nothing. It's an imitation login (see the first page of H*R.comPP). But since it's not REALLY a ay site, you can't log in, and you can't do anything with that edit space. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:19, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Funny or Footy? ==

I know my opinion isn't very agreed with here, but I'd like to state it anyways. In the email demo, I'm pretty positive Strong Mad says "I HAVE A FOOTY HAT!" rather than "FUNNY HAT." This is supported by the fact that his hat is indeed feet. Your thoughts? [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 13:49, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)
: It makes H*R-logic sense, but he says "Funny" pretty clearly (er, as clearly as Strong Mad ever speaks.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:18, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:: After listening to it a few times at full blast I think I agree. But I still won't rule out the possibility of it being 'FOOTY'. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 02:22, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::: While it may help some people, I find that full blast does not yield the same quality as headphones in a quiet room. (It's "funny." I hear no trace of any hard consonants in that word.) —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:26, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:::I'm not arguing here or nothing, but I just want to state that people tend to relax the 'T' sound in some words (including 'footy') to sound like a 'D' sound. (and I agree that full blast doesn't really do much) [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 02:30, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== I CONFUSED ==

When will my package come i've been waiting for ages

-Monkey D

me too, i been waiting 21 weeks! 147 days! 3528 hours! 211680 minutes! 12700800 seconds! 1270080000 miniature seconds!--[[User:Battlefrank|Battlefrank]] 23:37, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:I'm just wondering when that e-mail will actully come out. It seems awsome! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:59, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

It's just a joke!

*Hey, I doubt they'd actually send the info over. I'm just saying. --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 23:42, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

== Just to be safe/sure ==

This is mearly a april fools joke right? you wont have money taken oof your credit card?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 00:44, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
:Yep, that's right. It's just a joke. Don't worry. =) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
Remember, they can only take your money if you give them your info.
Btw, the second time I ever went to this site, I saw this thing (April 1 didn't click with me at that moment). Fun stuff. :Þ ([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 05:52, 30 March 2007 (UTC))

== Some remark of sorts ==

In the first screen, it says $12.95 monthly; however, at the screen where the person is supposed to enter personal information, it says $19.95 a month. Talk about ''more'' contradiction. --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 23:41, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

== DVD Version ==

Don't you think there should be a section listing the changes made for Everything Else, Volume 2? Can you still play the sample game or fill out the form, or is the form gone? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:58, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
:If no one answers my questions I should probably add a section stub. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:56, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
::The sample game is now just a video of the sample game being played. You cannot fill the form in (or hit submit). A little button marked "main" has been added to every frame of the menu, to allow you to get back to the main menu. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 03:04, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

== Detail on Explenations ==

The Explenations say:
The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This spoofs how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content. However, this may be a reference to a perk of subscribing (viewing unaired Strong Bad E-mails).

Specifically,
However, this may be a reference to a perk of subscribing (viewing unaired Strong Bad E-mails).
Frankly, I think that's wrong. The entire site is basically making you pay for something you've already done/seen for free, not for actual content.
I think this should be removed.([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 05:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC))

Talk:HomestarRunner.com: PAY PLUS!

2007-03-30T05:49:52Z

Frazz: /**/Detail on Explenations

== Initial Reactions ==

Now I have to pay to watch Homestar Runner? D*** you TBC, You smart devils you! --67.180.104.181 06:21, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

:Uuuh, you do know this is an april fools joke? Or were you being sarcastic? --[[User:Ooy|Futuramaooy]] 07:45, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

:I didn't think that a PREMIUM Homestar Runner was possible. Unless TBC has been holding out on us... Why am I up so early? -- Vooki -- 05:00, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)

:The real April Fool's prank: this isn't a joke. This is the REAL THING, people! --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]] 10:14, 1 Apr '05

Great going building building that in such a hurry

:Same content! New yearly price! MORE BANNER ADS! How could we lose? I'm definitely subscribing! It's definitely worth it. I loved the seven second trial. -- [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 15:03, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

:I looked at it, and thought "what the f-" until I realized it was an April Fool's Joke. I typed in the URL for the 1st main page, and got through and celebrated by watching SB Email #1. :P But anyway, The Chapman Brothers almost had me going! --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]] 16:51, 1 Apr 2005 (CST)
::Me, too. --[[User:71.34.228.156|71.34.228.156]] 20:38, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
::I was looking forward to something interesting happening on H*R for April Fools Day all week, so I was prepared. :) --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 16:24, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

== Webcam Conversation ==

The Webcam Conversation with the creators/someone else reminds me of the interview TBC had on The Screensavers. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:56, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

== P2W ==

TBC could be looking to make money now because on one of their TSS's interviews they started being funny about trying to make money off the site now and how rich they are.

They DO make money off the site. What, do you think they just give away that merchandise? -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

== Background Tile? ==

Where in PAY PLUS is the background tile [http://www.homestarrunner.com/payplustile.jpg] used? It's obviously somewhere in PAY PLUS, but I can't find where it is in the toon/EXCITING SUBSCRIPTION OPPURTUNITY!/feature. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] 22:56, 1 Apr 2005 (BST)

:I can't find it either. -- [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 15:03, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
::From the page's source code:
<pre><BODY background="payplustile.jpg"></pre>
::That answer anything? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 20:05, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

:::It's the background. Look around, up and down [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!]]

== Homestar Invaders ==

Is anyone able to beat this in 7 seconds? I got really, REALLY close... as in, my final shot was pixels away from the final guy. I wonder what happens when you win?
:Although I haven't beaten it before, people who have say that the wave just resets; nothing interesting. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:39, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Tiz true

(from pertmywert)

Yeah, it just resets.

== Closed STUFF ==

===False Advertising===

'''ACCEPTED'''

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

*'''INFINITELY STRONG ACCEPT-erson!!!!!!!!!''' Why in the world was this stuffed???????????--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:25, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** '''Decline''' Because the fact is redundant? Theres already a fact explaining that the toon is a joke on pay sites. Theres also another fact pointing out that the material in this toon doesn't actually appear anywhere else on the site. ''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's accurate and not obvious from the page itself. I won't miss it if it gets voted down though. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:48, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I think this was ment to be an ironic insider joke. Irony does not necessarily make a "fun" fact, but maybe it can be rewritten as an inside reference. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Accept''' Fairly obvious, but a bit of a fun fact nonetheless.[[User:GreatG|GreatG]]
*'''Strong Accept.''' This goes under the file of "not everything needs to be STUFF'd! Let's leave it to the fun facts that deserve it, guys. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:48, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' It's slightly obvious now, but the information about how many emails there actually WAS at the time will make this Fun Fact more interesting as time goes on. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 05:04, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' Fine by me. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''ANTI-Accept''' Are all of you people serious?? If this goes up, it ought to be combined with the "this is a parody of websites becoming paysites" fact. It certainly shouldn't stand alone IMHO. It's redundant because the fact that the whole thing is based on pay sites is ALREADY STATED. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Like I said, if we accept this then we should list the other inaccuracies in the toon. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Uh, no we don't. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:27, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Uh, yes we do. There isn't anything different or special about this fact. Heck, even when they do make it to 230 e-mails it won't matter because when they reach 231 it becomes wrong again. People can get the joke without having a fun fact for it. If we accept this then we might as well list all the others. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Uh, no we don't, because not all the rest of them really deserve to be listed. This one does. And now, I upgrade my vote to '''Infinite Accept,''' with a small revision to include the e-mail total at the time. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:58, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***Donny's right, you know. Are we going to write separate facts involving the misrepresentation of "actual screenshots" or "answering machines out the wazoo"? I think the fact that currently resides on the Pay Plus page is just fine (it only mentions misrepresentation, rather than giving any and all examples), but I'd still rather combine it with the above fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:15, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' I dunno if I'm even allowed to post this. This sounds good as a fact though. [[User: MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]]
*'''Accept''' This is an amusing fact. I didn't notice it until I saw it here. The reason I frequent this site is to help me notice such things. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''INFINITELY SECONDIZING!''' I'ma change my vote a little bit: I LOVE THIS FUN FACT!!! PLEEZ KEEP IT![[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 14:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' It's quite obvious it's way off, so I agree. --[[User:StarWarsMonkey|StarWarsMonkey :-)]]

===Hom Sar Ref===
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]

*'''Decline''' It doesn't sound to me like he pronounces it "gee-ames". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It is probably unintended by the creators. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:55, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' No offence, ISlayedTheKerrek, but the Homsar Main Page transcript is just one person's interpretation of what he says. When I listen to it, it could be James, but it could also be Gee-ames, too. -BlueNose
** It isn't GEE-AMES, and anyone who scrolls over the word "games" in the Homsar page will clearly hear him say James. If you hear Gee-Ames, I seriously suggest you get your ears checked. Oh, and sign your vote properly. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:45, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** Well, actually, it's a bit more ambiguous if you hover over "Games" quickly and pull the cursor away before the weight falls. But it's even ''further'' from GEE-AMES that way, so '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Homsar says no such thing. [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]] 4 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' Sewiously, this is wediculous. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:57, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Actually, it's not. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' To re-iterate: Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Sounds more like "James!" to me. --[[User:Uh! Bob|<tt>'''''Úħ¡βøв'''''</tt>]] 14:55, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Not Approved!''' Are you having a problem making a good fun fact or something? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:49, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Approve.''' What Homsar is saying on the main page actually sounds more like "Jane" to me... but "Gee-ames" sounds like the kind of things that guy says. I think I heard him say that a couple of times. - Dingell
**I'm only gonna say this one more time. It's "James." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:53, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Should you really be accepting a fact based on what you think he should say rather than what he actually does say? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*** I'm not basing it on what I think he should say. I base it on what I hear. And I hear "James." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:52, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
****I was commenting on Dingell's vote. If you've read this section at all, you'll see I've been agreeing with you all along. Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*****Sorry, dude. Disregard previous comment--wasn't paying attention. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*I'll repeat it: it's not NECESSARILY James - try hovering over Games for just a split-second and pulling the cursor away before the weight appears. It sounds more like "Jeng" or, as Dengell said above, "Jane" - there's no audible "S". Which only makes it sound LESS like GEE-AMES, so my vote remains a decline. --[[User:
===Trial Game origin===
The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

*'''Decline.''' It's a reference to Space Invaders. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:03, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** Ooops, yeah, I was rather vague there, wasn't I? I didn't mean the style of game, I meant the actual nuts and bolts of the thing. The 'engine', as it were. I know such recycling would be relevant if it caused a bug or something else really obvious, like the VCR in SBEmail114 "The Facts" did, but this is harmless, so I wanted a judgement on it. [[User:The Archon|The Archon]] 18:13, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It actually uses code from the games menu '''and''' Armless Invaders. But who expects them to code a new game just for an April Fools gag? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' While I disagree that they wouldn't code a new game just for an April Fools' gag, I do agree that this fact is unnecessary and somewhat inaccurate. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:59, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Whats Her Face's lack of appearance===
For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.
* '''Decline''' Noted in the transcript, and it's hardly an interesting remark regardless of such. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 07:57, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' It's certainly worth noting, and I didn't notice it the first time around. Keep it. [[User:little-man|little-man]] 14:09, 3 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline.''' Since there IS no reason for her absence, there's no reason to mention it. It's not necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 18:01, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' And who knows how far into the preview the clip was? She may have already been killed off. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
**'''Seconding the second second?''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]

=== Special Appearance (declined) ===
Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.
* '''Da Cline''' Then add him to the list of cast members. This isn't a fun fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:45, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Which toon is this? Seven Seconds? Trap Door? Wheelchair Kid? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:22, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** None - it means, the fourth screen of the subscription notice. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:51, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Oh, thanks. I thought he meant "fourth frame" of the 'toon. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 15:53, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Lil John (declined)===
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" may be a reference to Lil John from Lil John and the East Side Boyz.

*'''Rewrite''' Uh huh... so HOW and WHY is it a reference to Lil John? If you can prove this, then it can be accepted. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 11:01, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Response''' I think he means how Lil' Jon says stuff like "YEE-AAAH!" [[User:The Jolly Dumple|The Jolly Dumple]] 4:17 PM, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)
**'''Response''' Well, then, the person who wrote this fun fact should have said that. Keep in mind, however, that almost every rapper in existence says stuff like that. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:42, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''', unless Jolly Dumple is right. If he is, then '''Decline'''. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:56, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' Seriously, dump any fact that relies on phrases like "might be". Especially if its about TBC referring to something obscure. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Third.''' I'm agreeing with you on this one - these "might be" references are way too numerous, and in most cases, they're opinions. Hell, even the phrase "might be" is subjective to begin with. I propose an automatic deletion to any Fun Fact that uses this phrase. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:56, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
****'''FOURTH'D!''' [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*****ARROW'D... I mean, '''FIFTH'D''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*****'''Comment.''' <strike>I have this matter in a poll over on the forums - please go vote so we can reach a consensus on what to do with these kinds of items.</strike> Never mind - some admin locked it, even though the other current poll doesn't deal with the issue at hand. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

===Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio (declined)===

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].

* '''Decline'''. Umm... There are several other references to this. 1. [[Arcade Game]]: "in da basement -sb", why would Strong Bad put this if they were on the same level? 2. [[strongbad_email.exe]] (All discs): The camera transition to the Bonus Stuff menu infers that the basement is downstairs. And... that's all I can think of. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 00:16, 3 Apr 2005 (BST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:35, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' In [[morning routine]] they might have just skipped the part where Strong Bad goes up the stairs for the sake of saving time. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 18:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Hear here - showing Strong Bad go up and down stairs would take a whole new set of animation. Why bother? Traversing stairs isn't integral to the toon. Also see Venusy's comment above regarding "Arcade Game". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 18:03, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*I don't have the Email DVD, so I wouldn't know. And I just thought we should point out that this is the first time we see this. I've seen Fun Facts state that it was the first instance you see something when it is obvious and probably shouldn't be pointed out. And as for the note in [[Arcade Game]], characters point out things that you can see obviously all the time, and maybe the computer room and the basement were two different rooms in the whole basement. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 10:36, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**But why would Strong Bad leave a note saying they were in the basement IN the basement? '''Decline''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*If you think [[Arcade Game]] is the first sighting of the difference between the computer room and the basement, then why don't you just list that under Fun Facts on ''it''? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:42, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Because the appearance in Arcade Game is self-explanatory. When someone says they're "in da basement," it's safe to assume you're going to have to go down stairs in order to get to where that person is. There's no reason to state this in that e-mail, and as such, there really is no reason for it to be stated in this one. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Decline.''' It's self-explanatory that one would need to go down into a basement. So just because a character hasn't been seen going down the stairs doesn't mean that the basement is right next to the computer room...Then it wouldn't be a basement, would it?---[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 14:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Tall homestar?===
In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!

*'''Infinite Decline.''' Unimportant. And besides, how do YOU know that 3/4 of Homestar's body is there? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' It didn't look that way to me; in any case, made-up measurements are bleh. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 14:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Homestar's two feet fell into the trap. Therefore, it's a "two-foot trap."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:44, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Two-foot second''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Accept.''' It's rare to get even a rough indication of the characters' sizes. I wonder if this is consistent with the dimensions of Strong Sad in 'The Facts' - Dingell
*'''Del Taco''' Wasn't he stopped by Strong Mad's head? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:45, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Oh, yeah. Forgot about that, didn't you, whoever posted this fun fact? Hey, Dingell, might wanna change your vote there. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:42, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad didn't take a measurement of the pit, he never had any prior knowledge of how deep it was: he expected it to be a bottomless pit, and in his exasperation at The Cheat's failure to install such, he just randomly picked two feet as a way to say it was far too shallow. By your logic, if he said one foot, Homestar would only be a foot into the pit, and if he said three feet, then Homestar would have three feet of his legs in it, and Strong Bad could have verily used either to express his lack of satisfaction. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:29, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
***'''Third!'''-[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:15, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
****'''WHAT EVA COMES AFTER THIRD!'''
*SB was exsagerateing

===Updated for the 90's===
Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.

*'''Decline''' - This was just a joke. Seriously. I think TBC know when they started TGS. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who forgot to login]] 5:30 PM, 5 Apr 2005 (EST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment''' But hey, did you know there were only 127 Strong Bad E-mails up when this toon was made? I think TBC know how many SBemails they've made. -- [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' Um...tell me what that has to do with me, please? -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who remembered to login today.]] 5:00 PM, 6 Apr 2005 (EST)
*I'm saying theres another fact above thats just like this one and is being accepted but is equally worthless. Wasn't meant to be personal, sorry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' Oh, well, sorry for over-reacting, then. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar]] 8:12 PM, 7 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline,''' and the fun fact in reference is worth something, unlike this, which is crap. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:49, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:24, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' But "crap" is a little harsh. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:40, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Duh.''' Did you even understand this e-mail? [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Comment''' H*R wasn't even up until 2001, wasn't it? -[[User:Color Printer|Color Printer]]
Did anyone notice that when the "email Show" clip is playing, you can still click the button?
[[Image:nobutton.jpg|thumb|Missing Button]]

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Sailor Girl Squad! ===
{{stufffact|The plugs given in reference to Teen Girl Squad may refer to the animé series Sailor Moon, which was revamped for the '90s in North America and had many episodes cut (including two where everybody dies.)}}
{{stuffverdict|14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)|01:18, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)|narrowly declined|16|14|HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!}}

== No button ==
*When I loaded up the pay plus, on the third page the "Continue free tour" button was missing. Anybody know why? --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:18, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

== Q? ==

On the Gee-ames page, there is something to enter with a Q: and you fill it up. But why? and with what?-[[Amy Whifflepoof|That guy]]
:Nothing. It's an imitation login (see the first page of H*R.comPP). But since it's not REALLY a ay site, you can't log in, and you can't do anything with that edit space. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:19, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Funny or Footy? ==

I know my opinion isn't very agreed with here, but I'd like to state it anyways. In the email demo, I'm pretty positive Strong Mad says "I HAVE A FOOTY HAT!" rather than "FUNNY HAT." This is supported by the fact that his hat is indeed feet. Your thoughts? [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 13:49, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)
: It makes H*R-logic sense, but he says "Funny" pretty clearly (er, as clearly as Strong Mad ever speaks.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:18, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:: After listening to it a few times at full blast I think I agree. But I still won't rule out the possibility of it being 'FOOTY'. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 02:22, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::: While it may help some people, I find that full blast does not yield the same quality as headphones in a quiet room. (It's "funny." I hear no trace of any hard consonants in that word.) —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:26, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:::I'm not arguing here or nothing, but I just want to state that people tend to relax the 'T' sound in some words (including 'footy') to sound like a 'D' sound. (and I agree that full blast doesn't really do much) [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 02:30, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== I CONFUSED ==

When will my package come i've been waiting for ages

-Monkey D

me too, i been waiting 21 weeks! 147 days! 3528 hours! 211680 minutes! 12700800 seconds! 1270080000 miniature seconds!--[[User:Battlefrank|Battlefrank]] 23:37, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:I'm just wondering when that e-mail will actully come out. It seems awsome! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:59, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

It's just a joke!

*Hey, I doubt they'd actually send the info over. I'm just saying. --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 23:42, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

== Just to be safe/sure ==

This is mearly a april fools joke right? you wont have money taken oof your credit card?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 00:44, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
:Yep, that's right. It's just a joke. Don't worry. =) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Some remark of sorts ==

In the first screen, it says $12.95 monthly; however, at the screen where the person is supposed to enter personal information, it says $19.95 a month. Talk about ''more'' contradiction. --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 23:41, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

== DVD Version ==

Don't you think there should be a section listing the changes made for Everything Else, Volume 2? Can you still play the sample game or fill out the form, or is the form gone? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:58, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
:If no one answers my questions I should probably add a section stub. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:56, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
::The sample game is now just a video of the sample game being played. You cannot fill the form in (or hit submit). A little button marked "main" has been added to every frame of the menu, to allow you to get back to the main menu. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 03:04, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

== Detail on Explenations ==

The Explenations say:
The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This spoofs how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content. However, this may be a reference to a perk of subscribing (viewing unaired Strong Bad E-mails).

Specifically,
However, this may be a reference to a perk of subscribing (viewing unaired Strong Bad E-mails).
Frankly, I think that's wrong. The entire site is basically making you pay for something you've already done/seen for free, not for actual content.
I think this should be removed.([[User:Frazz|Frazz]] 05:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC))

Duck Guardian One

2007-03-26T16:43:59Z

Frazz: /* Glitches */ glitches moved for clarity

{{vgamenav|duckguard1|50K Racewalker|Hallrunner}}

[[Image:Duck_Gaurd_One.PNG|thumb|right|200px|'''Duck Guardian''' start screen]]
[[Image:duckguardian1box.PNG|thumb|right|220px|Duck Guardian One box art]]

A game by [[Videlectrix]]. The plot: save ducks from various hazards and lead them into a spaceship.

'''Page Title:''' Duck Guardian One! Save a Duck, Save THE WORLD!!

'''Viidelectrix Page Title:''' Duck is great time.

'''Date:''' Tuesday, August 30, 2004

== Instructions ==
Protect the ducks using a variety of rays! Use the mouse to move the ray target crosshairs, and the desired number key to fire a ray (The keys used are noted below). Use P or the Enter key to "paws" the game at any time. There are 33 Levels total.

=== Ray Types ===
* '''Direction Ray (1):''' The ray you begin the game with. When fired at a duck, it will reverse the direction it is going in, useful for dodging falling robot heads.
* '''Jump Ray (2):''' Earned in Level 3. Enables ducks to jump over pits and robot dogs.
* '''Freeze Ray (3):''' Earned in Level 9. Freezes ducks solid, rendering them temporarily immune to robot dog attacks. Be warned that other ducks cannot pass frozen ducks, and robot heads still crush frozen ducks.
* '''Double Jump Ray (2):''' Replaces the normal Jump Ray in Level 13. Enables ducks to jump in mid-air.
* '''Hatch Ray (4):''' Earned in Level 17. Cracks open falling eggs, causing ducks to come out. Be warned that if used on live ducks, it blows them up.
* '''Armor Ray (5 or Space Bar):''' Earned in Level 27. Renders ducks immune to robot heads and dogs, but unable to jump.

=== Hazards ===
* '''Robot Heads:''' Fall from the sky to crush your ducks. Only the armor ray renders your ducks immune to a Robot Head attack.
* '''Spaceship Door:''' Opens and closes in certain levels. If closed, ducks cannot enter the ship.
* '''Bombs:''' Fall from the sky to open pits in the ground. Will kill any ducks they fall on.
* '''Pits:''' Holes in the ground created by Bombs and Hatched Eggs. Will kill any duck unlucky enough to wander into it.
* '''Robot Dogs:''' Run from the left side of the screen to the right, eating any ducks unfortunate enough to get in their way. The Freeze and Armor rays protect your ducks from a Robot Dog attack. Can be jumped. ''{The city light will flash shortly before the Robot Dog comes out on the prowl.}''
* '''Eggs:''' Fall from the sky and crush ducks. They remain on the ground and block ducks that walk up to them. They can be hatched into two or more ducks using the Hatch Ray, but they will leave a pit in the ground. Can be jumped.

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*This game was first mentioned in the [[EmailFAQ|Email FAQ's]], where one of the many things Strong Bad does is hold up a game and says "I gotta play my new copy of Duck Guardian 2!" That also explains why this game is sometimes called Duck Guardian ''1''.

===Trivia===
*When you beat the game, [[:Image:Duck_Guardian_winscreen.png|a screen]] shows up that has an astronaut handing one of the ducks (dead) on a plate to a strange alien (which has the same color scheme as [[Bubs]]), and the text says "Well Done, Duck Guardian!! Now the people of Vexar VII will not go hungry!"
*Users without Flash Player 7 installed receive an interesting note, which seems to cleverly reference [[Wikipedia:Player (dating)|player culture]].
[[Image:Duck_Guardian_flasherror.png|thumb|right|300px|Hate the playa.]]
<blockquote>DUCK GUARDIAN ONE 
IS A FLASH PLAYER 7 
GAME. 
FLASH SAYS YOU DON'T 
HAVE NUMBER 7. 
SORRY. TRY UPDATING 
YOUR FLASH PLUG-IN. 
DON'T HATE THE GAME, 
HATE THE PLAYA.</blockquote>

===Remarks===
* Using the Direction Ray on a duck repeatedly agitates it, causing it to run faster and jump farther. Holding the Direction Ray and firing it constantly at the left of the screen (where the ducks come out) wil cause the ducks to walk back and forth; the longer you hold it, the faster the duck will run when you release the Ray.
* If you have an extra duck very near the closed space ship door and you complete a level by pushing a duck through with the Direction Ray, you can make the TO SAVE number become -1.

===Glitches===
*If you pause the game, the Spaceship Door still opens and closes. So if the door is shut at the moment your duck arrives at the door, simply pause the game and wait for the door to open.
**This has been fixed in the Viidelectrix version.
* If you hold down 1 and roll over a duck, it will change directions rapidly. If you roll over it long enough, it will speed up, decreasing its chance of getting hit.
*You can still use the various rays on the ducks while the game is paused, by using the number keys. It's possible to hold down the direction ray on a group of ducks near the starting point for several minutes, then press the jump ray: you'll end up with a lot of flying ducks moving at incredible speeds, crossing the screen in under a millisecond.
**This glitch has been fixed in the Viidelectrix version.
*Sometimes, if you use the direction ray right when a duck is next to a closed spaceship door, they will go in.
*You can armor then quickly unarmor ducks in midair, then make them double jump again! With this glitch, ducks can make it all the way across without even touching the ground. If robot heads are falling, simply armor them when they're up high, then unarmor them once the robot head has passed.
* The Flash player message will appear if you have Flash 8. However, if you play it from the Videlectrix Game Demos page, the game will play as normal.
* You can see the game winscreen without actually beating the game. To do this, hatch an egg right after your last live duck dies (or after the last duck enters the ship, if you fail to meet the correct number of ducks). Your score will be listed as 0.

===Real-World References===
*The soundtrack, per-level instructions, use of a badly rendered female voice, and reference to levels as "waves" all recall [[Wikipedia:Klax|Klax]].
*The carton for this game is reminiscent of the [[Wikipedia:Atari 2600|Atari 2600]] game [[Wikipedia:Pitfall|Pitfall!]], using the graphic style from many of the Activision games of that era. [[Secret Collect]] also uses this style on its carton.
*This game pays homage in many ways to the now-defunct gaming company [[Wikipedia:Psygnosis|Psygnosis]].
**The theme of the game is similar to the popular computer game "[[Wikipedia:Lemmings|Lemmings]]".
**When you pause the game, it includes the "Paws" pun found in many of Psygnosis' games.
**The way the ducks explode is reminiscent of the way the "Wabbits" explode in the Psygnosis game "Wiz 'N Liz".
*The eggs look like [[Wikipedia:Yoshi|Yoshi]]'s eggs from the [[Wikipedia:Mario|Mario]] video games.
*The hint for Level 11 is a reference to the old adage "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush."
*The hint for Level 31 is a possible reference to the Frog and Toad series of books.
*The duck explosion animation (seen on the Videlectrix logo screen and when using the hatch ray) looks to have been based on animations from the arcade game ''[[Wikipedia:Dig Dug|Dig Dug]]''.
*The sound effects for ducks jumping and dying are taken from the game ''Frog Bog'' for the [[Wikipedia:Intellivision|Intellivision]].
*The sound effect for a duck being rescued is taken from the game ''SNAFU'', also for the Intellivision.
*The bombs are reminiscent of the classic arcade game Moon Patrol.

===Fast Forward===
*The ducks are seen later on [[Main Page 22]], where two of them walk across the screen and explode, as well as [[Stinkoman 20X6]] [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0|Level -0]], where they are used as ladders.

=== Viidelectrix ===
*All "Click here to start"s are replaced by "Point hereabouts and mash A to start."
*The directions read:
:"Use remote as a pointer to aim
:Fire direction ray with A or B buttons
:To get ducks safely to the escape ship."
*The spaceship door glitch and the firing while paused glitch are now fixed
*The Direction Ray is fired with A or B.
*The Jump Ray is fired with Left on the D-Pad.
*The Freeze Ray is fired with Right on the D-Pad.
*The Hatch Ray is fired with Down on the D-Pad.
*The Armor Gun is fired with Up on the D-Pad.

== Level Guide ==
'''Wave 1'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 5 Ducks out of 15 
:'''HINT:''' Shoot Ducks with the DIRECTION RAY to turn them around. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads

'''Wave 2'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 5 Ducks out of 10 
:'''HINT:''' Ducks cannot enter the escape ship when the door is closed. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, Closing Spaceship Door

'''Wave 3'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 5 Ducks out of 10 
:'''HINT:''' You now have the JUMP RAY. Press 1 to fire the DIRECTION RAY, press 2 to fire the JUMP RAY. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Jump Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, Pits, Closing door

'''Wave 4'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 5 Ducks out of 15 
:'''HINT:''' Use the JUMP RAY to get Ducks over dangerous pits. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Jump Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, 1 Bomb, 1 Pit

'''Wave 5'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 5 Ducks out of 25 
:'''HINT:''' Airborne Ducks can be reversed with the DIRECTION RAY. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Jump Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, 2 Bombs, 2 Pits, Closing Spaceship Door

'''Wave 6'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 5 Ducks out of 20 
:'''HINT:''' The DIRECTION RAY agitates ducks with repeated use. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Jump Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' 2 Bombs, 2 Pits

'''Wave 7'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 5 Ducks out of 15 
:'''HINT:''' Watch out for Robot Dogs. They love to eat Ducks. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Jump Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, Robot Dogs

'''Wave 8'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 5 Ducks out of 12 
:'''HINT:''' The City Light will flash when a Robot Dog is on the prowl. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Jump Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, Robot Dogs, Closing Spaceship Door

'''Wave 9'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 15 Ducks out of 25 
:'''HINT:''' You now have the FREEZE RAY. Press 3 to fire the FREEZE RAY and freeze Ducks. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Jump Ray, Freeze Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, Robot Dogs

'''Wave 10'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 5 Ducks out of 15 
:'''HINT:''' Robot Dogs don't like eating FROZEN Ducks. Not so much, no. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Jump Ray, Freeze Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, Robot Dogs, 1 Bomb, 1 Pit

'''Wave 11'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 10 Ducks out of 35 
:'''HINT:''' A Duck in the ship is worth two somewhere else. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Jump Ray, Freeze Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, Robot Dogs, 2 Bombs, 2 Pits, Closing Spaceship Door

'''Wave 12'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 10 Ducks out of 25 
:'''HINT:''' Today's Forecast: No deadly Robot Heads inexplicably falling from the heavens. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Jump Ray, Freeze Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Dogs, 4 Bombs, 4 Pits

'''Wave 13'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 10 Ducks out of 20 
:'''HINT:''' You now have the JUMP RAY DOUBLE JUMP RAY upgrade. Shoot an airborne Duck a second time for serious Duck air. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Double Jump Ray, Freeze Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, Robot Dogs, 2 Bombs, 2 Pits

'''Wave 14'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 5 Ducks out of 15 
:'''HINT:''' Falling Eggs will crush unwitting Ducks, and obstruct them once they've landed. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Double Jump Ray, Freeze Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, 1 Bomb, 1 Pit, 1 Egg

'''Wave 15'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 5 Ducks out of 30 
:'''HINT:''' Videogames are just as good as reading a book. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Double Jump Ray, Freeze Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads

'''Wave 16'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 5 Ducks out of 15 
:'''HINT:''' Airborne Ducks can be FROZEN, but FROZEN Ducks cannot JUMP. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Double Jump Ray, Freeze Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, 1 Bomb, 1 Pit, 2 Eggs

'''Wave 17'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 10 Ducks out of 20 
:'''HINT:''' You now have the HATCH RAY. Shoot an Egg with the 4 key to HATCH 'em up. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Double Jump Ray, Freeze Ray, Hatch Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, Robot Dogs, 0-1 Pits, 1 Egg

'''Wave 18'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 10 Ducks out of 20 
:'''HINT:''' Don't let Ducks die or perhaps you will lose the game. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Double Jump Ray, Freeze Ray, Hatch Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, 0-2 Pits, 2 Eggs, Closing Spaceship Door

'''Wave 19'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 15 Ducks out of 35 
:'''HINT:''' Attempting to HATCH a live Duck is not recommended. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Double Jump Ray, Freeze Ray, Hatch Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:'''Robot Heads, Robot Dogs, 1 Bomb, 1-2 Pits, 1 Egg, Closing Spaceship Door

'''Wave 20'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 15 Ducks out of 60 
:'''HINT:''' Why don't Robot Dogs fall in the pits? It's not really fair. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Double Jump Ray, Freeze Ray, Hatch Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, 4 Bombs, 4 Pits

'''Wave 21'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 10 Ducks out of 10 
:'''HINT:''' Phew. Take a breather! 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Double Jump Ray, Freeze Ray, Hatch Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' None

'''Wave 22'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 10 Ducks out of 20 
:'''HINT:''' Press Enter for Pause if you find yourself getting too excited. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Double Jump Ray, Freeze Ray, Hatch Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, 1 Bomb, 1-2 Pits, 1 Egg

'''Wave 23'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 5 Ducks out of 40 
:'''HINT:''' You can REFREEZE Ducks to keep them in place. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Double Jump Ray, Freeze Ray, Hatch Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, 1 Bomb, 1 Pit

'''Wave 24'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 30 Ducks out of 50 
:'''HINT:''' The next gun is pretty awesome. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Double Jump Ray, Freeze Ray, Hatch Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, 1 Bomb, 1-3 Pits, 2 Eggs

'''Wave 25'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 5 Ducks out of 40 
:'''HINT:''' Special Goal: DOUBLE JUMP 5 Ducks into ship to advance. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Double Jump Ray, Freeze Ray, Hatch Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, Robot Dogs, 2 Bombs, 2 Pits

'''Wave 26'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 25 Ducks out of 50 
:'''HINT:''' Avoid repetitive stress disorder by taking frequent rest breaks or through the healing power of meditation. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Double Jump Ray, Freeze Ray, Hatch Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, 1 Bomb, 1 Pit

'''Wave 27'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 10 Ducks out of 12 
:'''HINT:''' You now have the ARMOR GUN. Press SPACE or 5 to fortify your Duck with vitamins and minerals. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Double Jump Ray, Freeze Ray, Hatch Ray, Armor Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, Robot Dogs

'''Wave 28'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 10 Ducks out of 20 
:'''HINT:''' Shoot an ARMORED duck a second time to remove its ARMOR. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Double Jump Ray, Freeze Ray, Hatch Ray, Armor Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, Robot Dogs, 1 Bomb, 1-2 Pits, 1 Egg

'''Wave 29'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 5 Ducks out of 25 
:'''HINT:''' Special Goal: Jump 5 FROZEN Ducks into ship to advance. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Double Jump Ray, Freeze Ray, Hatch Ray, Armor Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, Robot Dogs, 1 Bomb, 1-2 Pits, 1 Egg

'''Wave 30'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 5 Ducks out of 20 
:'''HINT:''' Special Goal: Save 5 ARMORED Ducks to advance. No refund on flesh Ducks. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Double Jump Ray, Freeze Ray, Hatch Ray, Armor Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, 3 Bombs, 3 Pits

'''Wave 31'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 5 Ducks out of 15 
:'''HINT:''' ARMORED Ducks and Robot Dogs are the best of friends. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Double Jump Ray, Freeze Ray, Hatch Ray, Armor Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, Robot Dogs, 1 Bomb, 1 Pit

'''Wave 32'''
:'''GOAL:''' Save 5 Ducks out of 4 
:'''HINT:''' To make an omelet, you have to break a few Eggs. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Double Jump Ray, Freeze Ray, Hatch Ray, Armor Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, 0-4 Pits, 4 Eggs

'''Wave 33''' [[Image:Duck Guardian winscreen.png|thumb|150px|Ending Screen]]
:'''GOAL:''' Save 5 Ducks out of 15 
:'''HINT:''' This is pretty much the last round. You are doing great. 
:'''RAYS:''' Direction Ray, Double Jump Ray, Freeze Ray, Hatch Ray, Armor Ray 
:'''HAZARDS:''' Robot Heads, Robot Dogs, 2 Bombs, 2-4 Pits, 2 Eggs

== External Links ==
*[[Videlectrix:duckguard1.html|Play Duck Guardian]]
*[[Videlectrix:duck_guardianv8.swf|View the Flash file for Duck Guardian]]
*[[Videlectrix:vii/duckguard1/|Play Duck Gaurdian for the Wii]] (currently down)
*[[Videlectrix:vii/duckguard1/game.swf|View the Flash file for Duck Guardian for the Wii]] (currently down)
*[[Videlectrix:songs/duckguard1_theme.mp3|Listen to the game music]]
*[[Videlectrix:songs/duckguard1_win.mp3|Listen to the game music (reprise)]]
*[[HR:dg1.html|Play Duck Guardian on HR (requires Flash 7, doesn't work with Flash 8 and up)]]

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Drive-Thru

2007-03-21T01:42:18Z

Frazz: /* Remarks */ from, not on, National Geographic

{{toonnav|Shorts|drivethru|KOT's VOQPCS!|Strong Bad Sings}}
[[Image:Drivethru.png|200px|thumb|"Sever your leg please, sir."]]

Strong Bad and The Cheat try out a model rocket and have a run-in with a drive-thru speaker.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, [[Drive-Thru Whale]]

'''Places:''' [[The Field]]

'''Date:''' Monday, March 19, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 2:19

'''Page Title:''' Shoots up to 300 feet!

== Transcript ==
''{Strong Bad and The Cheat are standing in the middle of the field. Strong Bad is holding a toy rocket on the end of a pump.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh man, The Cheat. This is gonna be bro-awesome. This thing's gonna shoot all the way up to Europa! And bring us back a couple of Europa-pean lobsters to grill up!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Excited The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right. ''{Pumping the pump}'' Three... two... one... ''{He releases the rocket and it falls onto the ground. Strong Bad stares at the sky}'' Look at it go! I can barely see it already an— ''{notices the rocket lying on the ground}'' Oh. That was nothing like the back of the box. ''{Shaking his fist at the sky}'' Where's my space lobster? You know what that means. It's time to employ... The Compress''or''!

''{Cut to the same location later on. Strong Bad has attached an air compressor to the rocket, which slowly grows bigger as more air is pumped into it}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Three... Two... One...

''{The rocket flies into the air}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look at it go! ''{He runs after it}'' I can almost taste the buttery claw meats!

''{Strong Bad runs into a plastic whale with a speaker in its teeth and falls down. A loud WANG sound effect is heard}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Where'd you come from?

'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' ''{Scratchy and difficult to understand voice}'' Would you like to try a combo meal?

''{Strong Bad stands up and dusts himself off}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{uncertain}'' Uh, sure. But no cheese, and, um, extra sauce?

''{The Cheat arrives}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Questioning The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I don't know. I think I just ordered a combo meal from this—

''{The camera cuts back a bit; no hint of a restaurant, other than the speaker, is seen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —invisible restaurant. You don't have any invisible cash, do you?

''{The Cheat puts his hands in his fur where pockets would be, and takes them out again as if holding money}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, you're loaded! ''{To the speaker}'' And, uh, ''{Cut to view from inside the Drive-Thru Whale Speaker}'' let me get a crappy toy meal for my The Cheat here.

'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' Nine-seventeen, sever your leg please, sir.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Cut back to view outside Drive-Thru Whale}'' Could you repeat that? ''{Shakes head}'' I thought you just asked me to sever my leg.

'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' Sever your leg, please. It's the greatest day.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Incredulous}'' "Sever my leg"? "It's the greatest day"? I'm not sure I understand the transaction that's taking place here.

'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' Please enter your password. ''{plays a tune while the water from the blow hole moves up and down}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' My The Cheat wants to know what your crappy toy is this week.

'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' It's brown.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{To The Cheat}'' It's brown.

''{The Cheat starts to cry}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, I guess they're ''out'' of blue ones.

''{The Cheat cries harder}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Angrily at the Drive-Thru Whale}'' Look what you did!

'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' Steve, drive around to the seventh window.

'''STRONG BAD:''' What window? You're just a crackly drive-thru whale out in the middle of a field! ''{The word 'field' echoes and the camera angle switches to show the emptiness of the field}'' Come on, The Cheat. Let's take our invisible business elsewhere.

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat walk away. As soon as they're off screen, the rocket falls back down and breaks open, and a purple lobster with brown spots comes out.}''

'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' Sever your leg please, sir.

''{The lobster makes odd warbled noises and removes one of its claws, and the whale bends down and eats the lobster. One claw remains on the ground. The whale blasts off into space, playing the same tune from earlier. A silhouette of a lobster with "end." written on it appears.}''

== Easter Eggs==

*Click on "end." for a scene with Strong Bad and The Cheat at another invisible restaurant.
:'''STRONG BAD''': Now ''this'' place knows how to invisibly treat a person, The Cheat! ''{to an invisible waiter}'' Ah, yes, thank you, Inviso-Jeeves. We'd like another bottle of Château Prétende 1974, please. Oh, and, uh, how 'bout a blue one for my little friend here?
:'''THE CHEAT''': ''{pleased The Cheat noises}''

==Fun Facts==
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===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Europa (moon)|Europa]] is one of [[Wikipedia:Jupiter (planet)|Jupiter]]'s moons, and the possibility of Earth-like environment in its oceans has periodically led to [[Wikipedia:Europa (moon)#Exploration of Europa|plans for its exploration]].
*Château Prétende is [[Wikipedia: French language|French]] for "Pretend Manor," and is a play on the traditional practice of identifying wines by their estate of origin. (e.g. Château Margaux, Château Latour, etc.)

===Remarks===
*The Field has a flatter, more cartoonish look than usual, with streaky clouds in the sky.
*When Strong Bad shouts at the drive-thru whale about being isolated in the middle of the field, his voice echoes even though there is nothing else in the field for the sound of his voice to bounce off of.
*According to [http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/12/061211-sea-creatures_2.html this article from National Geographic] the recent discovery of a deep sea lobster in the Indian Ocean has led scientists to believe that similar organisms may live on Europa.

===Inside References===
*The way that Strong Bad emphasizes the suffix "or" in "Compress-OR" is reflective of [[other days]], when he calls [[Dolph Hauldhagen]] the "Instruc-TOR".
*The fact that the drive-thru whale can play music harks back to [[what I want]], which mentioned music being played from a Dancing Nobot in "Drive-Thru Stereo".

===Real-World References===
*[[Strong Bad's Rocket]] is an exact replica of an actual rocket toy that was popular in the 1970s and 1980s. The pump would increase the air pressure in the rocket. Releasing the lock in the base would allow the pressure to expel water from the bottom and cause the rocket to propel itself into the air.

==External Links==
*[[HR:drivethru.html|watch "Drive-Thru"]]
*[[HR:drivethru.swf|view the Flash file for "Drive-Thru"]]
*[[Forum:10991|forum thread re: "Drive-Thru"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|drivethru}}

[[Category:Shorts]]

Drive-Thru

2007-03-21T01:40:29Z

Frazz: /* Fun Facts */ So ya, the key is the earth like environment, which many think gives the potential for biology.

{{toonnav|Shorts|drivethru|KOT's VOQPCS!|Strong Bad Sings}}
[[Image:Drivethru.png|200px|thumb|"Sever your leg please, sir."]]

Strong Bad and The Cheat try out a model rocket and have a run-in with a drive-thru speaker.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, [[Drive-Thru Whale]]

'''Places:''' [[The Field]]

'''Date:''' Monday, March 19, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 2:19

'''Page Title:''' Shoots up to 300 feet!

== Transcript ==
''{Strong Bad and The Cheat are standing in the middle of the field. Strong Bad is holding a toy rocket on the end of a pump.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh man, The Cheat. This is gonna be bro-awesome. This thing's gonna shoot all the way up to Europa! And bring us back a couple of Europa-pean lobsters to grill up!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Excited The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right. ''{Pumping the pump}'' Three... two... one... ''{He releases the rocket and it falls onto the ground. Strong Bad stares at the sky}'' Look at it go! I can barely see it already an— ''{notices the rocket lying on the ground}'' Oh. That was nothing like the back of the box. ''{Shaking his fist at the sky}'' Where's my space lobster? You know what that means. It's time to employ... The Compress''or''!

''{Cut to the same location later on. Strong Bad has attached an air compressor to the rocket, which slowly grows bigger as more air is pumped into it}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Three... Two... One...

''{The rocket flies into the air}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look at it go! ''{He runs after it}'' I can almost taste the buttery claw meats!

''{Strong Bad runs into a plastic whale with a speaker in its teeth and falls down. A loud WANG sound effect is heard}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Where'd you come from?

'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' ''{Scratchy and difficult to understand voice}'' Would you like to try a combo meal?

''{Strong Bad stands up and dusts himself off}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{uncertain}'' Uh, sure. But no cheese, and, um, extra sauce?

''{The Cheat arrives}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Questioning The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I don't know. I think I just ordered a combo meal from this—

''{The camera cuts back a bit; no hint of a restaurant, other than the speaker, is seen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —invisible restaurant. You don't have any invisible cash, do you?

''{The Cheat puts his hands in his fur where pockets would be, and takes them out again as if holding money}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, you're loaded! ''{To the speaker}'' And, uh, ''{Cut to view from inside the Drive-Thru Whale Speaker}'' let me get a crappy toy meal for my The Cheat here.

'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' Nine-seventeen, sever your leg please, sir.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Cut back to view outside Drive-Thru Whale}'' Could you repeat that? ''{Shakes head}'' I thought you just asked me to sever my leg.

'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' Sever your leg, please. It's the greatest day.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Incredulous}'' "Sever my leg"? "It's the greatest day"? I'm not sure I understand the transaction that's taking place here.

'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' Please enter your password. ''{plays a tune while the water from the blow hole moves up and down}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' My The Cheat wants to know what your crappy toy is this week.

'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' It's brown.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{To The Cheat}'' It's brown.

''{The Cheat starts to cry}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, I guess they're ''out'' of blue ones.

''{The Cheat cries harder}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Angrily at the Drive-Thru Whale}'' Look what you did!

'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' Steve, drive around to the seventh window.

'''STRONG BAD:''' What window? You're just a crackly drive-thru whale out in the middle of a field! ''{The word 'field' echoes and the camera angle switches to show the emptiness of the field}'' Come on, The Cheat. Let's take our invisible business elsewhere.

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat walk away. As soon as they're off screen, the rocket falls back down and breaks open, and a purple lobster with brown spots comes out.}''

'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' Sever your leg please, sir.

''{The lobster makes odd warbled noises and removes one of its claws, and the whale bends down and eats the lobster. One claw remains on the ground. The whale blasts off into space, playing the same tune from earlier. A silhouette of a lobster with "end." written on it appears.}''

== Easter Eggs==

*Click on "end." for a scene with Strong Bad and The Cheat at another invisible restaurant.
:'''STRONG BAD''': Now ''this'' place knows how to invisibly treat a person, The Cheat! ''{to an invisible waiter}'' Ah, yes, thank you, Inviso-Jeeves. We'd like another bottle of Château Prétende 1974, please. Oh, and, uh, how 'bout a blue one for my little friend here?
:'''THE CHEAT''': ''{pleased The Cheat noises}''

==Fun Facts==
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===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Europa (moon)|Europa]] is one of [[Wikipedia:Jupiter (planet)|Jupiter]]'s moons, and the possibility of Earth-like environment in its oceans has periodically led to [[Wikipedia:Europa (moon)#Exploration of Europa|plans for its exploration]].
*Château Prétende is [[Wikipedia: French language|French]] for "Pretend Manor," and is a play on the traditional practice of identifying wines by their estate of origin. (e.g. Château Margaux, Château Latour, etc.)

===Remarks===
*The Field has a flatter, more cartoonish look than usual, with streaky clouds in the sky.
*When Strong Bad shouts at the drive-thru whale about being isolated in the middle of the field, his voice echoes even though there is nothing else in the field for the sound of his voice to bounce off of.
*According to [http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/12/061211-sea-creatures_2.html this article on National Geographic] the recent discovery of a deep sea lobster in the Indian Ocean has led scientists to believe that similar organisms may live on Europa.

===Inside References===
*The way that Strong Bad emphasizes the suffix "or" in "Compress-OR" is reflective of [[other days]], when he calls [[Dolph Hauldhagen]] the "Instruc-TOR".
*The fact that the drive-thru whale can play music harks back to [[what I want]], which mentioned music being played from a Dancing Nobot in "Drive-Thru Stereo".

===Real-World References===
*[[Strong Bad's Rocket]] is an exact replica of an actual rocket toy that was popular in the 1970s and 1980s. The pump would increase the air pressure in the rocket. Releasing the lock in the base would allow the pressure to expel water from the bottom and cause the rocket to propel itself into the air.

==External Links==
*[[HR:drivethru.html|watch "Drive-Thru"]]
*[[HR:drivethru.swf|view the Flash file for "Drive-Thru"]]
*[[Forum:10991|forum thread re: "Drive-Thru"]]

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User talk:Frazz

2007-03-17T17:47:22Z

Frazz:

==Anyway...==
So ya. Here it is. Me. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmkay.

User talk:Frazz

2007-03-17T17:46:43Z

Frazz: /* Welcome! */

Polymascotfoamalate

2007-02-14T19:00:51Z

Frazz: Well no duh! Didn't anybody get msctfm8? Comeon!

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'''Polymascotfoamalate''' is a foam-like material used to make mascot uniforms (such as [[The Jolly Dumple]]) in the [[Homestar Runner (flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner universe]]. It is [[Explosions|highly flammable]], or as [[Coach Z]] put it, "flame pro-tardant". In the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[4 branches]], [[Rumble Red]] mentions he doesn't have Polymascotfoamalate on ''his'' planet. [[The Homestar Runner]] replies that this is because the alien is a Communist fool.

The word Polymascotfoamalate is a [[Portmanteaus|Portmanteau]] of the prefix "[[Wiktionary:poly-|poly-]]", and the words "[[Wikipedia:mascot|mascot]]" and "[[Wikipedia:foam|foam]]" and the suffix "[[Wikipedia:Ate_(disambiguation)|-ate]]". Other than mascot building material, other proposed uses for Polymascotfoamalate include baby food and topping for Soured Cream. The chemical notation of the material is <math>(\mbox{Ms}^{\mbox{ct}-})+(\mbox{Fm}^{8+})</math>

The formula <math>(\mbox{Ms}^{\mbox{ct}-})+(\mbox{Fm}^{8+})</math> indicates an [[wikipedia:ionic bond|ionic bond]] between two [[wikipedia:molecular compound|compounds]] which makes a [[wikipedia:formula unit|formula unit]]. The parentheses around the elements make them polyatomic ions (a possible reference to the name). This can not be a real formula because ionic bonding only occurs when combining an element with a positive valence electron and an element with a negative valence electron. Since the only positive polyatomic ion is ammonium, this would not work. This also shows that the chemical Ms has a valence electron of ct, which can't be true because it isn't a number. Fm would have to be a noble gas because only they have a valence electron of eight. If this chemical bond was correct, Ms would have to be a metal or some sort of solid because they are positive, and Fm would have to be a non metal because they are negative. When writing valence electrons, the positive or negative sign goes before the number. Finally, if this ionic bond was "real", the chemical compound you would come up with is <math>(Ms)_8(Fm)_ct</math>, although the suffix -ate in the name suggest that the molecule have four oxygen atoms.

Of course, <math>(\mbox{Ms}^{\mbox{ct}-})+(\mbox{Fm}^{8+})</math> is a manipulation of chemical symbols to give Mascot Foamalate, with some letters removed and 8 substituted for ate. Msctfm8. It is clear there was no meager excuse for some sort of pathetic attempt to actually make a real formula.
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