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road trip

2006-09-08T02:34:09Z

GregHosting: /* Explanations */ added jumbo shrimp ref

{{sbenav|156|theme song|some kinda robot}}
[[Image:Roadtrip_sbemail156.png|thumb|"Road trip city, here we come!"]]

Strong Bad and The Cheat go on a road trip. Or more accurately, a car trip. Or even more accurately, a car.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Bubs}} (Easter egg), {{Film|Coach Z}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], Inside The [[Gremlin]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' September 4, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 4:18

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Good morning, Mr. ''E''-mail, there's a call for you, on line two. ''{brings up the email}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: road trip</div>
Dear Fatty bad, 
Do you ever go on road trips with your gang?

That guy, from that place
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says "I've actually lost two pounds in the last nine months, thank you very much" instead of "Fatty" and "Pete from Pete's parents' basement" instead of "That guy, from that place".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, yeah! Me and The Cheat, we're roadtripcionados. And one thing I've found, is that every good road trip needs a good inside joke that only the people that ''went'' on the road trip will get. ''{clears screen}'' And your friends that ''didn't'' go on the road trip will want to kill your legs every time you bring it up. These days, I make up the inside joke before I go on the road trip, just in case one doesn't happen. For this road trip, we'll make it... jumbo/LARGE. Get it? jumbo/LARGE? It's like a maxymoron.

''{Cut to the Field. Strong Bad and The Cheat are standing in front of the Gremlin; an object covered by a yellow-splotched cloth is on the right.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, you ready to go, The Cheat? Why is Strong Mad hiding under that not-originally-yellow-spotted sheet from Strong Sad's bedroom? Not my bedroom.

''{Pan to the right so that the entire object covered by the sheet is visible}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises. Pulls back the cloth to reveal many stacked aluminum cans. Excited The Cheat noises.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa! Eighty-something cases of Bull Honkey! ''{close-up of Strong Bad}'' That's my favorite caffeinergy sauce! ''{back to wider view}'' Oh, this road trip is ''definitely'' going to be ''{dances}'' jumbo/LARGE.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{looks annoyed, quizzical The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Just laugh at it. It's an inside joke. It's going to be hilarious.

''{Cut to the inside of the Gremlin. The Cheat is sitting behind the wheel. Strong Bad enters the passenger's seat and shuts the car door.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Road trip city, here we come!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Keys? I don't have any keys. Look, the only thing I know about this car is what Bubs told me. And that's that the windows and doors are broken and you can't open them from the inside.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{looks annoyed}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh. Right. ''{under his breath}'' That was pretty poor planning on my part.

''{Cut to a distant view of a silhouette of the Gremlin against a yellow sky}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{calling out}'' Bubs? Green Bubs? ''{a tumbleweed rolls by}'' Anybody?

''{cut back to inside the car}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, forget it. I'm not gonna let a little setback like this ruin our road trip. What we need is some grub. Pull over at this next exit up here. ''{The Cheat turns the steering wheel}'' I know a little roadside diner called "Beneath the Passenger's Seat". ''{goes under the seat}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{surprised The Cheat noises}''

''{Cut to a view of the passenger's seat from above. Strong Bad's leg is visible on the right}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, we got a small order of petrifries ''{brings out three French fries covered in hair}'', a large melt shake that's almost eaten through the cup ''{brings out an old cup that says "Melt Shake" and is stained brown on the bottom}'', ooh, and for dessert, a half-sucked booterscotch in desperate need of a shave ''{brings out an orange, egg-shaped candy covered with hair and a nail-clipping}''.

''{return to front view of the Gremlin}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, cool, that was disgusting. Now alls we need to wash the taste out of our brains is some jammin' tunes!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{exclamatory The Cheat noises. Brings out a CD that says "road trip mix".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' A mix CD! ''{singing}'' That, my friend, is jumbo/LARGE. ''{normal voice}'' Now, let's put it in and crank it up!

''{cut to view of Gremlin's dashboard, which contains an eight-track player labeled "8-TRAX".}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{tries to put the CD in the eight-track player. The Cheat noises.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Naw, just force it in there. ''{return to front view of the Gremlin}'' I'm sure that thing's forwards compatible.

''{The Cheat pushes CD into player. The edges of the CD break off.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, yeah, The Cheat. These are some jammin' tunes! ''{singing}'' And now we're jammin'! ''{in falsetto}'' Jammin' tunes! Jammin tunes ''{in his normal voice}'' Now we're jammi— ''{shouting quickly}'' Oh, who am I kidding; this is the worst road trip over! ''{puts his head down on the dashboard}'' The Cheat ''{cut to silhouette view of the Gremlin}'', we're gonna die in this Gremlin!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{sad The Cheat noises}''

''{The sky darkens}''

'''SINGERS:''' ''{unseen, in high voices}'' And now we're jammin'! Jammin' tunes! Jammin' tunes! Now we're jammin'! jumbo/LAAAAARGE!

''{cut to view of Strong Bad and the Cheat in the Gremlin, this time from an angle}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Like, look at that little stain over there! ''{cut to a view looking up at the car roof}'' That could be a whole 'nother world. With a whole 'nother Strong Bad and The Cheat stuck in a Gremlin. ''{a light shines on The Cheat and Strong Bad.}''

''{cut to a view looking out the window; Homestar Runner is standing outside holding a flashlight}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{looking annoyed}'' All right, young lovers. Move it along! What do you think this is, Make-out Point?

''{cut to view of the Gremlin from outside}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Homestar, it's me and The Cheat! We're stuck in here!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Unlikely story, Backseat Bradley!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Just open the door; I'll explain everything!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All right, but before I do, ''{no longer looking annoyed}'' I'm looking for my jumbo/LARGE melt shake! I think I left it in there a week or month ago. ''{cut back to view of Homestar Runner through the car window}'' Either of you guys find it? ''{opens the door}''

''{cut back to view of the Gremlin from outside}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{exits the Gremlin}'' Oh, sweet two feet from where I just was! How I've missed you so!

''{cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Luckily, Officer Cheese-for-butt let us off with just a warning. And ''that'' was our road trip. Or, more accurately our car trip, since we didn't go on any roads. Or, even more accurately, our car, since we didn't go on any trips either. So yeah, Pete from Pete's parents' basement, I go on car with my gang all the time. And that's the end of this email. Until next time everybody, remember to stay j-LARGE.

''{The Paper comes down}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Honkem.png|thumb|"Honk 'em if ya got 'em!"]]
*Click on the eighty-something cases of Bull Honkey to see a close up of a [[Minor Foods|Bull Honkey]] can.
*Click on the car bumper when Homestar finds Strong Bad and The Cheat to see a bumper sticker.
*At the end, click on "everybody" to see a conversation between Bubs and Coach Z.
:'''COACH Z:''' Whaddya mean, I'm the green Bubs? If anything, you're the orange Coach Z!
:'''BUBS:''' The first person to call me the orange Coach Z is gonna get a free consultation with my friends Jacoby and Meyers. ''{balls up one fist, following with the other}''

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*Petrifries is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Petrification|petrification]], which is the process by which organic material is converted into stone or a similar substance.
*[[Wikipedia:Forward compatibility|Forward compatible]] products try to cater to future technology, such as new input devices.
*Maxymoron is a play on the word [[Wikipedia:oxymoron|oxymoron]], although jumbo/LARGE is not actually an oxymoron. Strong Bad probably meant it was [[Wikipedia:redundant|redundant]]. Incidentally, "Jumbo Shrimp" is a common oxymoron.

===Trivia===
*There appear to be 204 cans of Bull Honkey.
*This email has four [[Portmanteaus|portmanteaus]]; the most featured in any toon on the site.
*This is the first time Strong Bad concluded an email along the lines of "[[Until Next Time...]]" since [[privileges]].
*This is also the first time we see Bubs clench his "fists."

===Remarks===
*Homestar was able to open the Gremlin's door, even though he has [[Lack of Visible Arms|no visible arms]] and the car door has no visible handles.

===Goofs===
*The passenger seat's shadow doesn't move while Strong Bad is rummaging under the cushion.
*When The Cheat slams the CD into the 8-track player, it is not shaded.

===Inside References===
*"Bull honkey" was previously mentioned in [[record book]], in which Strong Bad set the record for "Longest Bull Honkey".
*The [[Gremlin]] makes another appearance. It was last seen in [[Senorial Day]].
*Homestar Runner looking for people in the night with a flashlight is a reference to [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]].

===Real World References===
*The Bull Honkey energy drink is a parody of the [[Wikipedia:Red Bull|Red Bull]] energy drink.
*[http://www.jacobyandmeyers.com/ Jacoby and Meyers] is the name of a California tort law firm famous for its television advertising.

==External Links==

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high school

2006-01-09T19:08:05Z

GregHosting: /* Goofs */ Thigh problem was fixed. No goofs left!

[[Image:highschool.png|thumb|Unphotographic memory]]
'''Strong Bad Email #140'''

Strong Bad talks about his younger years.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|The Homestar Runner}} (Easter Egg), {{Film|Old-Timey Strong Bad}} (Easter Egg), [[Wikipedia:Don Knotts|Don Knotts]] (Easter Egg), {{Film|Sickly Sam}} (Easter Egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], Abandoned Pie Factory, High School, Middle School, [[Free Country USA|Free Petry Dish USA]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand|Bubsamecium's Protazoa Stand]], [[Wikipedia:Rome|Rome]] (Easter Egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' January 8, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 3:01

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486
==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' It's the email baby lunch juice.

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>Subject: high school</div>
Hey Strong Bad! 
What were you like during highschool? 
Sincerely, 
Patrick Cowiche, WA
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad stretches out "Hey Strong Bad!", can't seem to be able to pronounce "highschool", and reads "Cowiche, WA" as one word, pronouncing it so it sounds very much like "konichi-wa," which means "hello" in Japanese.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, cowichewa to you too, Patrique. Now, I have an extremely unphotographic memory. So, I guess that'd be more like a drawing, or a doodle. Like a doodle memory.

''{Strong Bad clears the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' But I would hazard a guess that we were probably just like other cartoons were in high school, i.e. we were a team of super sleuths.

''{Cuts to a splash screen titled "[[The Homestar Runner Mysfit-steries]]" with "story by Youdbetterbelieveit [[A. Chimendez|Chimendez]]" in the lower right. Crudely drawn Homestar Runner, Marzipan, Strong Mad, and Strong Bad stand abreast in the center. Dissolve to Marzipan.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Dampers! My long lost uncle's abandoned pie factory sure is mysterious.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ah, there's no such thing as "mysterious".

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I don't want to take any chances. We should play in a band, just to be safe.

''{Cut to Strong Bad, Strong Mad, Marzipan, and Homestar Runner playing the keyboard, the drums, the tambourine, and the guitar, respectively.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' Having fun with my friends. Words about a mystery. Shaking hands with my man.

''{Cut back to the Lappy 486.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And when we weren't debating the existence of mysterious, Strong Mad and I were all the time trying to liberate Homestar from those ridiculous striped ''{pronounced stripèd}'' pants.

''{Cut to Strong Mad, Homestar, and Strong Bad in high school. Strong Mad and Strong Bad hold ropes attached to hooks in the ceiling and floor, which then run through hooks on Homestar's waistline. A magnet lies next to Homestar's feet.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' And you guys are sure this won't emancipate me from my ridiculous striped ''{pronounced stripèd}'' pants?

''{Cut back to the Lappy 486.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So that's what highschool was like. In, um, middle school we were a bunch of melon-headed babies with gigantic eyes and enormous...

''{A baby-sized Coach Z tosses with a box marked "NOT A BALL!", with a plush football beside him. Strong Bad continues, voicing over.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...imaginations.

'''BABY COACH Z:''' ''{high-pitched, childish voice}'' I'm pretending I'm the captain of the football torm!

''{As Coach Z says this, the nursery-school style background is replaced with a black and white image of a football field.}''

''{Push pan to a baby Strong Bad in a diaper with a small blue cap on his head. He sits holding a joystick.}''

'''BABY STRONG BAD:''' ''{high-pitched, childish voice}'' I'm pretending I'm playing better video games! Aw, man! That freakin' duck swallowed both of my pixels!

''{Push pan to a baby Strong Sad and a baby The Poopsmith. Baby Strong Sad has a pink bow in his hair, long eyelashes, and a frilly divide between his torso and trunk. Baby The Poopsmith wears a blue baby bonnet and holds a stained rattle, with a large pile of dirty diapers behind him.}''

'''BABY STRONG SAD:''' I'm pretending I'm not sitting next to The Diapersmith.

''{As Strong Sad says this, the background, including The Poopsmith's diapers, is replaced by a black and white image of a bi-plane.}''

''{Baby The Poopsmith turns to baby Strong Sad and blows a raspberry.}''

''{Pan to the legs of Homestar, who is wearing puffy red and white pants and holding a broom.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Now you children skedaddle. ''{pushes sweeping end of broom at baby The Poopsmith and Strong Sad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voicing over, in normal voice}'' And going unnecessarily further back, ''{as Strong Bad says this, baby Pom Pom bounds by the screen, with a Bumble Ball body form and no distinguishable head.}'' we were all a bunch of plucky parameciums  living in Free Petry  Dish USA.

''{Cut to a petri dish with a liquid inside resembling the shape of the United States of America.}''

''{Cut to a paramecium Bubs floating in a box marked "BUB5AMECIUM'S PROTAZOA STAND". A paramecium Homestar floats up.}''

'''HOMESTARMECIUM:''' Hey there, Bubsamecium. I need to buy some embarassing items for my embarassing body parts.

'''BUBSAMECIUM:''' Certainly! Six tubes of rear-end cream coming right up!

'''STRONGBADIOPHAGE:''' Oh ho ho! Whatcha buying there, Homestarmecium?

'''HOMESTARMECIUM:''' Uh oh, it's Strongbadiophage. Um, uh, these are for my twin brother! ''{divides into two}'' These are for my twin brother! ''{divides into four}'' These are for my twin brother! ''{divides into eight}'' These are for my twin brother!

'''STRONGBADIOPHAGE:''' Aaaaaa!! ''{he runs off}''

''{Cut back to the Lappy 486.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And then, of course, before that we were ''{pause}'' Romans living in Roman times. And Don Knotts was always showing up. So there you go, Patrice. Just the facts. ''{types the score on different lines}'' Strong Bad Emails: 1, Not Strong Bad Emails: 0. ''{stops typing}'' You guys keep score at home. I'll see you next time. ''{runs off singing}'' Oh, having fun with my friends!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on the word "unphotographic" to reveal a photographic memory of the [[caper|jumble caper]].
**Click on the resulting image to reveal the doodle memory version of the same event.
*Click on "Roman" to see what those times were like.
:''{Cut to The Homestar Runner and Old-Timey Strong Bad in an black and white Roman land. The Homestar Runner is dressed as [[Wikipedia:Julius Caesar|Julius Caesar]] and Old-Timey Strong Bad is dressed as a [[Wikipedia:Legionary|Roman legionary]].}''
:'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh... aqueduct.
:'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' Hm... yes! Vomitorium!
:'''DON KNOTTS:''' ''{pokes head in}'' Andy?
:''{Pan to Sickly Sam wearing a sack reading "OLIVES" instead of his usual "POTATES" sack. He vanishes, and an [[Wikipedia:Ionic column|Ionic column]] takes his place.}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*A popular misconception is that the Romans made use of a room called a vomitorium for the express purpose of vomiting between meals to make room for more food. Only a very small minority of the highest classes indulged in the practice of deliberately vomiting. A vomitorium is actually an architectural feature -- a passage situated below or behind a tier of seats in an amphitheatre, through which the crowds could "spew out" at the end of a show.
*Homestarmecium, being a [[Wikipedia:Paramecium|paramecium]], likely replicates himself using the prokaryotic process of [[Wikipedia:Binary fission|binary fission]].
*Strongbadiophage, which has a hexagonal head, appears to be a type of [[Wikipedia:Bacteriophage|bacteriophage]]. These [[Wikipedia:Virus|viruses]] attack a host cell (actually [[Wikipedia:Bacteria|bacteria]], not parameciums) and force the cell to create copies of the virus by modifying the cell's DNA.
**One interesting though likely coincidental fact is that just as "bacteriophage" means "one who devours bacteria," "Strongbadiophage" may be taken to mean "one who devours Strong Bad".
*The Homestar Runner mentions [[Wiki:aqueduect|aqueducts]]. The Roman Aqueduct system is perhaps the most famous ever built, running over 250 miles across their empire and supplying over a million gallons of water a day to ancient Rome alone.

===Trivia===
*When this email was released, the [[Main Pages|main page]] button read "new strong bad email" and "nothing else!". The site had just experienced an unusually long hiatus, 35 days, since the last major update.

===Remarks===
*"Cowichewa to you too" is a misrepresentation of "konnichiwa", a basic Japanese greeting.
*Strong Bad [[Fourth Wall Breaks|breaks the fourth wall]] by acknowledging the fact that he is a cartoon character.
*Highschool Strong Bad looks very similar to [[Senor Cardgage]].
*Baby Coach Z wearing green pajamas supports the theory that he wears a green body suit, as Strong Bad questioned in [[labor day]].
*In his flashback, Strong Bad recalls Coach Z being up to 2 years older than himself, but in the stand-up video Strong Sad showed, Coach Z was already an adult when Strong Bad was a little kid.
**This is similar to [[record book]] in which the outdated record book showed baby Strong Bad and an adult Coach Z.
*Homestar plays a left-handed bass guitar.
*[[Wikipedia:Petri dish|Petri dish]] is misspelled in "Free Petry Dish USA" as a reference to [[Free Country USA]].
**The puddle in the petry dish is vaguely shaped like the United States of America.

===Goofs===
[[Image:Mysfit-steries.PNG|thumb|One assumes that the Brothers Chaps did not depict Strong Mad's fist between Marzipan's thighs intentionally.]]
* When the email was released, Strong Bad's reflection goes outside of the Lappy's screen as he gets up. This occurs due to lack of using a masking effect.
** This was corrected shortly after it was released.
* Originally, on the Mysfit-steries title screen, Strong Mad's fist is visibly protruding from between Marzipan's thighs. This has since been fixed.

===Inside References===
*The photo from the "[[Wikipedia:Eidetic memory|photographic memory]]" Easter Egg is a screen shot from [[caper]].
*There is another reference to [[Homestar's Pants]].
*"[[Pie]] factory" was originally mentioned in [[stunt double]].
*The horizontal lines on the wall of the middle school may be a reference to the lines on the wall of Strong Bad's Basement.
*Homestar manages to play the guitar and Marzipan is able to play the tambourine even though they [[Lack_of_Visible_Arms|do not have visible arms]].
**Also, during his song, Homestar mentions "shaking hands with my man," lending credence to the belief that Homestar has hands, but they are invisible.
*"Freakin' duck" is a phrase used by Homestar Runner in [[In Search of the Yello Dello DVD|In Search of the Yello Dello]] and Strong Bad on [[Main Page 13]]. It might, as in that main page, refer to the [[Atari Dragon]].
*Strong Bad's left eye has a star-shaped reflection, which is also seen in the [[Strong Bad 404 Error Page|Old 404 page]].
*The multiple Homestarmeciums make this an instance of [[twin characters]].
*Mysfit-steries was written by [[A. Chimendez|Youdbetterbelieveit Chimendez]].

===Real-World References===
*The entire part about the characters' high-school selves is a reference to many Hanna-Barbera cartoons from the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s, including ''[[Wikipedia:Scooby-Doo|Scooby-Doo]]'', Jabberjaw, Josie and the Pussycats, Speed Buggy, The New Shmoo, and various others in which a gang of teenagers solved mysteries.
*"Dampers" is a parody of the ubiquitous ''Scooby-Doo'' exclamation, "Jeepers!"
*The entire part about the characters' middle-school selves is a reference to ''[[Wikipedia:Muppet Babies|Jim Henson's Muppet Babies]]'' cartoons.
*The black and white picture behind Baby Strong Sad and Baby The Poopsmith, is the [[Wikipedia:Image:Wrightflyer.jpg|first flight]], made by the [[Wikipedia:Wright brothers|Wright brothers]] in 1903 at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina.
**Live action backdrops such as that and the football field behind Baby Coach Z were used in Muppet Babies when the babies would use thier imaginations.
*[[Wikipedia:Don Knotts|Don Knotts]] is an actor best known for playing [[Wikipedia:Barney Fife|Barney Fife]] on [[Wikipedia:The Andy Griffith Show|''The Andy Griffith Show'']]. He also twice guest-starred in the ''New Scooby-Doo Movies'' cartoons.

==External Links==
*[[HR:sbemail140.html|Watch "highschool"]]
*[[HR:sbemail140.swf|View the Flash file for "highschool"]]
*[http://www.stanford.edu/~mvassar/sbemail140.html View "highschool"] (Mirror)
*[http://www.stanford.edu/~mvassar/sbemail140.swf View the Flash file for "highschool"] (Mirror)
*[[Forum:6613|Forum thread re: highschool]]

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Talk:Main Page

2006-01-03T10:36:22Z

GregHosting:

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== Anonymous editing ==

Hey, everyone. We're finally back with [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sitenotice&curid=3863&diff=224920&oldid=219718 this edit] by [[User:Tom|Tom]]. Also congratulations to [[User:It's dot com|64.12.116.195]] who made the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&curid=1159&diff=224922&oldid=224820&rcid=169422 first annonymous edit]. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 05:03, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
:Wait, it's over? o_o I blinked and I missed it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::...is Totally [[virus|awesome]]! Um one thing: the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin user login]/account creation page only has the following fields available for new users: retype password and the image code. There is no field for putting in one's email addy, what happened to that? Also, the text below still mentions the email addy option (in case you were planning on eliminating that feature for future funny users. (I had to alliterate. I love lengthy alliteration. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:33, 29 December 2005 (UTC)))
:::We still plan to reenable that. The code isn't ready for it yet, but it ''is'' ready for anonymous editing and new-user creation, so we went ahead and implemented what we have so far. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:41, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Fanstuff's still locked up tight, though? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::No, Fanstuff is back open. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:45, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::Then shouldn't you take down, or at least alter, the MediaWiki Site Notice at the top... You took it off here... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::Do a hard refresh and see if that fixes it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:47, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::::It still won't come off the main page, although it is off all the others. (However, it's not like I visit the Fanstuff frequently... Maybe once every 6 weeks, unless something major goes on. Don't even have an account.) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Makes sense... sweet! Good to have this running! Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:43, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::SWEET LADY FREEDOM, LET'S MAKE OUT!!!! Well I'm glad the wiki's finally getting back to it's old self. Patrolling edits, battling trolls, greeting new users, I missed all of that... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:54, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::I think the above user is the best ever. [[User:142.179.33.98|142.179.33.98]] 06:55, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::There have been a few trolls... Check the history of my user page for one of 'em. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::::Well thanks annony, that means alot to me. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:57, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::No problem. I also think Dot Com should get you a danish. [[User:142.179.33.98|142.179.33.98]] 06:57, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::::::o_O ... By the way, <s>TBird</s> anonny, notice the capitalization of the short form of my name: it's [[User:It's dot com|Dot com]] 07:00, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::::Heh heh, <strike>my bad</strike> I mean... annony's bad. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 07:02, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
:Hey! Neat! (but still, this makes us more suseptible to troll attacks.)--{{User:Benol/sig}} 12:38, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
::I say: '''Bring it on!''' ):D {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 13:27, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
::THis is great. Anonnys can finally be back. To bad it will take a while to get the word out. And about the trolls, I don't mind. I am itching for a troll to fight! ! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 14:04, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Oh, and now wer have a super cool word-in-a-picture security device. That's just what we need. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:11, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Yay! We had our first troll (to my knowledge). http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&limit=500&hideliu=1.

== New-user creation ==
There's a glitch in the Captcha system that is not letting anonymous users create accounts. We are aware of the problem and are working to correct it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:59, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
:Update: I think I fixed it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 09:46, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Looks like it's fixed. I've been waiting for new user registration to come back so I could finally create an account here. Long Time Wiki Reader, First Time Wiki Poster. Or somesuch. Forgive me if I'm not very good at this. I've never actually used a Wiki... (Well, I've used a simplistic one elsewhere, but... I dunno if the interface is the same). <strike>I don't even know how to properly give a "signature" or whatever.</strike> Ah well. I'll learn. =P -[[User:YK|YK]] 23:49, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Oo! An L.T.W.R., F.T.W.P.! Seriously, the learning's half the fun. I'm going to head over to your talk page to explain the question about signatures. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:13, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== Videlectrix stubs ==

As many know, most of the [[Videlectrix]] games are currently not available for play. However, we have articles on their respective subjects, only with the most minimal of information. Then each article has been tagged as a <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:stub|stub]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki>. After sitting in [[:Category:Stubs]] for a considerable amount of time, it has become clear that there may never be any more information available on the subjects. Even if there will be, there isn't right now. I nominate that the stub tags from each of the articles be removed for the reason that they are complete at the moment. The following is a short conversation on the subject:

<blockquote>
*<Lapper> BazookaJoe`, what do you think?
*<Lapper> We say the Videlectrix articles are uncompletable.
*<Lapper> There's no info left to add.
*<Lapper> But they stay in the stub category like they should be completed
*<Elcool> some stubs that should be destubbed:
*<Elcool> [[Cheat Commandos Playsets]]
*<BazookaJoe`> I think they became stub articles on the pretext that there might someday be more info on them
*<Elcool> [[Atari Strong Bad]]
*<BazookaJoe`> but, yeah. if there's nothing else to add, it shouldn't be a stub
*<Lapper> BazookaJoe`: Yet, there isn't right now, so why leave them as stubs?
*<BazookaJoe`> i don't see a reason
</blockquote>

I've decided to '''be bold''' and remove the stub tags. If anyone objects, they should do so. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 19:19, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Additionally, there are quite a few other stubs that are technically complete, some of which have been de-tagged by [[User:E.L. Cool|E. L. Cool]] — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 19:29, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

:I agree, if there's no more information to put on the article then they don't need to be stubs. It's been discussed before, I just don't remember where (but it had to do with small articles too, and wikipedia not being paper). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:15, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

:I agree as well; everything should be relative, and like you said, they ARE complete. -[[User:24.15.49.150|24.15.49.150]] 15:28, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== Slow=Update? ==

Is anybody else having [http://www.homestarrunner.com H*R.com] come up really slow? It's kinda on and off. Sometimes it's fine, and others it's not. Could this be 'cause of the long wanted update? Or is it just me? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 22:11, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
:It doesn't come up at all for me. It's definitely not just you. I think you're on to something, AtionSong. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::It is all at normal speed for me. They might be updating, I hope they are updating, but don't get your hopes up. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 22:15, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
:::It was really slow [[HRWiki:Main_Page_Talk_Archive_6#H.2AR_down.3F|before]] and their was no update. Maybe it's different now...or not.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 23:09, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Boy. I wish I had job where I could skip out without telling anybody for a month.
::Mabye they gave up. Mabye they are tired of Homestar. Mabye they threw a WILD New Years Eve Party. But I just want Homestar back!--{{User:Benol/sig}} 15:56, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Run "Matt Chapman Atlanta GA" or "Melissa Palmer Atlanta GA" through Google. Their phone numbers are prominently displayed, feel free to call them and ask where the update is. XD
::::Yeah, that'd be great.

::::'''ME:''' Hello? Is this Matt Chapman?

::::'''MATT:''' Yes. Who is this?

::::'''ME:''' Oh, you don't know me. I'm a fan and I found out your phone number through an online search. So, I was wondering why there hasn't been a...

::::''{click}''

::::'''ME:''' Hello? ''{pause}'' Hello?

::::Yeah, that's work out ''great''. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 17:17, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
::You really called him?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 17:19, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
:::No. I should probably indent it so people know it goes with my other comment. I'm saying that it's unlikely that Matt or Missy would talk to a fan that just found their number. Also "XD", I think that that's a pretty big invasion on their privacy and it is very rude. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 17:25, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
::They weren't saying XD is their name, XD is a smiley, that looks like a laughing guy--{{User:Benol/sig}} 17:26, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
:::and Matt's # is (XXX) XXX-XXXX, and Missy's is (XXX) XXX-XXXX.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 17:33, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm sorry but even if the numbers are available through google I think we should still respect their privacy and not post people's phone numbers in this wiki. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:44, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::Here's a thought- what if the update is the final Stinkoman 20X6 level, but it was so massivce they had to take it down, or there was a problem or something. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:07, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

::::::It seems pretty unlikely that a SM 20X6 level would make the entire site unaccesable. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:28, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::::I couldn't get to it yesterday, but it's fine today. Maybe they took it down so no one could find a loophole to get to Level 10 before it's released (how about "[[Not the 100th Email!!!]]"). {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}} 20:33, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

::::::::It could be like insanely huge, like in 3-D or something. I dunno. It's just that it's been 3 months without an update, so maybe they were saving the last level for an important occasion. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 20:34, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::You guys are kidding yourselves. "TBC have gone 24 days without an update. They don't have anything predicably planned, and they haven't released anything even close to being a message as to what's holding them up. They must be planning something ultra-huge that's gonna be so cool with Stinkoman and Trogdor and Fqhgwgahds! It's gonna be the kwelist thing EVAH!" The way I see it, nothing huge is coming at all. It's just something that no one's willing to talk about, or have any medium of saying. Something personal that's holding them up. They have nothing big planned, they'd tell someone then. This, my strange little internet friends, is something hidden, something secret, something that could see the end of Homestar Runner as we know it. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 23:05, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::We all know that. The same thing is running through everyone's head, we just don't want to admit it. We could be getting our hopes up, yes, but do we really want to talk about the end of Homestar Runner? No. We're just not ready to face the concept yet. As a garage band once sang, "Homestar Runner, I don't know what I'd do without you". --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 24:45, 1 January 2006

:::::::::::Let's just stop speculating and see what happens. TBC deserve a break just like the rest of us, for whatever reasons they may have. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:54, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

::::::::::::Yeah, I don't know about you, but my boss lets me take month-long breaks all the time. These guys are JUST like me.
:::::::::::::Okay, this is the kind of comment that really cheeses me off. TBC do this site mainly for their own amusement and to please their fans. Aside from selling products in their store, they don't charge you to use the site - it's free for everyone to enjoy. Therefore, '''they are ''not'' obligated to update the site on any schedule but their own.''' If they choose to take a month's vacation and not tell anyone, that's perfectly within their right - it's their site, and regardless of how you and I feel about it, they can do whatever they want with it. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 03:22, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Feels good to be out again ''{pant pant}'' .The thing that so weird is that if they ''knew'' that they were going to be gone for 4 weeks, they would have made a cartoon, and just had their dad or somebody put it up. This leads me to believe one of three things: 
 
a) There was some unexpected reason that they're not updating the site, which is probably personal, and we should respect their privacy and stop harrassing them. 
 
b) There isn't going to be a holiday update this year, so we should stop waiting for it and relax. 
 
c) There is some huge update they are trying to put up, and we just need to wait for it. 
 
Any way, I think we should just stop contemplating and rehashing the same ideas over and over again and just accept what is and wait for the next update to the site. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 02:44, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

:If there is one. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolChem]] 03:49, 2006

:Given their normal tendency to give small updates when they skip a week (let alone 3), my gut tells me it's a), and not pleasant. If so, my heartfelt condolences to the Chapman Bros and their family. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 10:36, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

There might be an update, there might not. The thing I think is odd is that nobody's even stopped in to at least switch "New Strong Bad Email" to "Strong Bad Email" or something like that. Who knows what's going on. I agree with AtionSong, the only thing we can do is wait. --[[User:SariaMew456|SariaMew]] 2 January 2006

== Too Long ==
Homestar's description on the main page is a bit too long, I think. It makes the main page... unnaturally tall. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 03:08, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah i kinda see what you mean. Personally, all I can really say is... Oh well. The intro was nevertheless a good read and Homestar's a tall guy anyway :). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:26, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::A tall guy? Strong Bad's shown to be about four feet tall in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|SBIIJC]], and his and Homestar's heights are just about the same in [[pom pom|PP]]. So...three feet? Not very tall. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 06:39, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:::He's tall in comparison to most of the characters. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Also, Homestar and Strong Bad stand right next to each other in The System is Down and Homestar is way taller. -[[User:24.15.49.150|24.15.49.150]]

But that's not the point. Homestar is the main character on the site, and so there's a lot about him. -[[User:24.15.49.150|24.15.49.150]]

== Purge the WHAT? ==

Okay, this may sound stupid, but what does that blue thing at the top of this page that says "Purge the Cache" actually do? I clicked on it a couple of times, but nothing happened. Can someone please tell me? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 15:31, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

:The cache is a stored version of the page that is created so the Main Page does not need to regenerate itself from code every time a user requests it. The problem is sometimes the cache is out of date with changes to the page, especially when underlying templates are changed (try changing your sig template sometime, it takes a few minutes for the changes to appear everywhere on the wiki). Purge the cache removes the cached version of the page and regenerates the page from code. At least, this is what I assume it is for ;) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:40, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for telling me! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 15:42, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

==Paul Slocum Picture==
''Taken from [[Talk:Paul Slocum]]'' 

I found a couple of pictures of Paul and would like some help. If possible, could one of the sysops [mailto:reutterDONTSENDMESPAM%40w-link%2Enet email] the site owner. Here are the Images:
*[http://cyberroach.com/cyromag/15/DSCN5108.jpg]
*[http://cyberroach.com/cyromag/15/DSCN5109.jpg]
*[http://cyberroach.com/cyromag/15/DSCN5107.jpg]
*[http://cyberroach.com/cyromag/15/DSCN5103.jpg]
*[http://cyberroach.com/cyromag/15/DSCN5102.jpg]
*[http://cyberroach.com/cyromag/15/DSCN5110.jpg]
 Or it you like you could [mailto:paul%40treewave%2Ecom email] Paul himself about [http://www.qotile.net/twimages/press/paul.tif this] picture, but it's not very good.
 --{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 20:16, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
:Whoa! Is <nowiki>[mailto]</nowiki> spambot-proof? If not (and I'd suspect not, since it's the @ symbol they're looking for), then unless Paul used it unprotected first, let's not do so. That's the number one easiest way to sign on for a dumptruckload of spam. I was about to convert the @ and dot to unicode, which is a pretty effective prevention in html, but it seems to not work with wikicode. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:50, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::Ha! After some research, turns out [[Wikipedia:Hexadecimal|Hexadecimal]] works! If this revision doesn't work for anybody, or if it's actually unnecessary, please pipe up. (If it works and ''is'' necessary—i.e. wiki pages can be read by spambots—can we consider making this a standard?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:11, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Do we have to ask about using one of those pictures? Don't we already use most pictures without asking permission? I'd like to hear the opinion of somebody with extensive legal knowledge before we email asking permission for something we may not have to. In any case, I've gotta insist using a cropped number 6 picture if we use any.
:::'''EDIT:''' Seems like you do need permission. I've already emailed asking for it. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:50, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

== Sysop Nominations ==

Does anyone know when the next sysop nominations are going to be? Are there even going to be anymore? {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 23:52, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:You know, I was just about to ask that question! (I wanna nominate Bubsty)--{{User:Benol/sig}} 00:16, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
::Ha ha the only reason I asked this was because I wanted to nominate Bubsty. {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 00:26, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:::The thing around here is we only nominate sysops when we have a great need for them. We have quite enough of them right now, so new nominations probably won't be any time soon. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::::DorianGray is right. There will be new sysops where there is a need for new sysops. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:31, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Although some of them do seem a bit un-active. I was wondering about that - can you de-sysop a user? AgentSeethroo, FortyTwo, Stu, (although he recently "came back," even for a short while), and maybe a few others haven't been on for a while. Oh and thanks DBK and Benol, although I don't think I'd be a very good sysop. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:29, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::It's been said before: why de-sysop someone? We keep them as such to be formal, and also just in case they do come back. Anyways, enough are active to make it not really matter if a few older ones are taking a little break or have moved on to other things. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::Thanks. And I hope some of them do come back. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:36, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::: Then there's me, someone who has (mostly) been busy lately and hasn't had much to do (with the IPs temporarily universally blocked and the main site not doing much), but still lurks a few minutes a day even if I don't do anything. How can you tell if someone's gone into lurker mode like me? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:59, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::: Then... you have to just guess, probably. Although I doubt Stu, AgentSeethroo, and FortyTwo spend two to three minutes on this wiki a day, and don't do a single edit. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:19, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Well technically Tom and the other Admins have records of the last time anyone signs in, but that's for their eyes only. And yeah, I gotta agree with Jay. I like the freedom to be able to take a break if I get busy, without worrying my sysop privilages are gonna be taken away because I'm not active enough. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:21, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::I do the lurker-mode thing too, when term becomes too busy. Thunderbird, do you know if the records keep track of automatic sign-in? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 02:26, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

More Fan Costumes

2005-11-09T03:01:45Z

GregHosting: /* Remarks */

[[Image:More Fan Costumes.PNG|thumb|"Aww, Homestar babies!"]]
Strong Bad cruelly makes fun of the Halloween costumes fans made, again.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[Horrible Painting]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}} (all audio only)

'''Page Title:''' The Ween Aught Five

'''Date:''' November 7, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:05

==Transcript==

=== Storyboards ===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! width="200px" | Image !! width="150px" | Featured Character !! Voiceover
|-
| [[Image:Morefancostumes1.PNG|200px]] || [[Strong Bad]] || '''STRONG BAD:''' Dear Strong Bad, how's your miserable job at the depressing faceless office park? Oh, pretty good, Geraldine. Today they let me stand out in the parking lot and stretch my head during my seven-minute lunch break. If I'm lucky, I'll get to work here for ten years with no promotion and then get laid off!
|-
| [[Image:Morefancostumes2.PNG|200px]] || Burninated Peasant, [[Trogdor]] || '''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, a burning peasant and Trogdor partying together in perfect harmony! And a full nine days before Halloween even!
|-
| [[Image:Morefancostumes3.PNG|200px]] || [[Coach Z]], [[King of Town]], [[Marzipan]] || '''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, and next on the worthless arts and crafts shopping channel, the least popular Homestar Runner characters gourd collection. Nothing completes an old lady vestibule quite like them.
|-
| [[Image:Morefancostumes4.PNG|200px]] || [[The Cheat]] || '''STRONG BAD:''' Ahh! The Cheat! Some kind of adorable baby is bursting out of you!
|-
| [[Image:Morefancostumes5.PNG|200px]] || [[Bubs]] || '''STRONG BAD:''' Come on, man! Bubs has flipper arms, not tentacle arms! Those things look deadly, like they could pry the shell off a... mollusk... in no time flat! Now, go enjoy the crappy Halloween decorations we put up in the cafeteria. Amanda from sales worked all morning on those!
|-
| [[Image:Morefancostumes6.PNG|200px]] || [[Strong Bad]] || '''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, yeah. That's the way to get decapitated, man. Couple of young ladies to cuddle up with my giant severed head...
|-
| [[Image:Morefancostumes6a.PNG|200px]] || [[Strong Bad]] || '''STRONG BAD:''' Uh—oh, wait a minute, now, girls, what's going on here?
|-
| [[Image:Morefancostumes6b.PNG|200px]] || [[Strong Bad]] || '''STRONG BAD:''' Aaah! My poor husky head! Were there at least any Twixes in there?
|-
| [[Image:Morefancostumes7.PNG|200px]] || [[Mr. Shmallow (character)|Mr. Shmallow]] || '''STRONG BAD:''' A Mr. Shmallow costume? Are you kidding me? Were you trying to ''lose'' friends this Halloween?
|-
| [[Image:Morefancostumes8.PNG|200px]] || [[Trogdor]] || '''STRONG BAD:''' I said "S and more different S"! Not seven or... more different... crescent wrench. And is that limp pantyhose worm supposed to be a beefy arm? Why don't you walk back there to the China Express and get them to fill that thing with teriyaki chicken. And then we'll go to Spencer's Gifts.
|-
| [[Image:Morefancostumes9.PNG|200px]] || [[Horrible Painting]] || '''HORRIBLE PAINTING:''' Come on in heeere.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh-oh, that thing is ''way'' more evil in pumpkin form. Must... fight... jibblies! Can't... hold... on... much... longer! A-jibblie-jibblie!
|-
| [[Image:Morefancostumes10.PNG|200px]] || [[Strong Bad]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Cheat]] || '''STRONG BAD:''' Aww, Homestar babies! Check 'em out, they're just like real life! The Strong Bad kid is like, "Ooh! Feel my wrath!" And the Homestar kid is just totally clueless, like, "I wike candies!" And then The Cheat is like, "Whoa, I bet I could swipe that plasma screen over there."
|-
| [[Image:Morefancostumes11.PNG|200px]] || [[Homestar Runner]] || '''STRONG BAD:''' Ohh. That is animal cruelty. Could that dog possibly be more miserable? I bet if old Rover left some sweet spots on that carpet they'd take him out of that ridiculous geddup. Come on, boy! Leave a sweet spot! Just a little sweet spot!
|-
| [[Image:Morefancostumes12.PNG|200px]] || [[Homestar Runner]] || '''STRONG BAD:''' Ah, da da da da DA-A!! So confused... what to think?? Hot Homestar?? My brain is splitting in half!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, hey Strong Bad!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Daaa! You get outta here!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whoa, you sound tense. Do you want me to give you, like, a backrub or anything?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh... yes! No! I... don't know! Next picture, next picture!!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I think this is the last one, sweetie.

'''STRONG BAD:''' WAAAAA!! ''{trails off as though he's running away}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I should probably stop calling everybody sweetie.
|}

==Fun Facts==
=== Explanations ===
*The name "More Fan Costumes" refers to a similar feature for Halloween 2003: [[Fan Costume Commentary]].
*A [[Wikipedia:Mollusk|mollusk]] is any of a variety of chiefly marine invertebrates, typically characterized by a soft, unsegmented body encased in a protective shell.

===Trivia===
*The baby in the The Cheat costume was also seen a few days earlier in the [[Weekly Fanstuff]].

=== Remarks ===
* The figurines of the corresponding characters can be seen in front of the "least popular Homestar Runner characters gourd collection."
* Though Strong Bad is very freaked out by a hot Homestar, he did invent a moderately hot [[Homsar]] in [[different town]]

===Inside References===
*The mention of "teriyaki chicken" in connection with Trogdor's beefy arm is a reference to the first [[Fan Costume Commentary]], in which fans carelessly "turned it into a buffalo wing."
*In the third picture of the piñata, Strong Bad refers to his head as "husky", despite denying its huskiness in [[modeling]].
*The monster on the pumpkin is the [[Horrible Painting|horrible painting]] from [[bottom 10]].
*Strong Bad saying "S and more different S" is from [[dragon]].

===Real World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Spencer Gifts|Spencer Gifts]] is a novelty store commonly found in many North American shopping malls.
*[[Wikipedia:Twix|Twix]] is a chocolate snack or candy bar made by [[Wikipedia:Mars, Incorporated|Mars, Inc.]] consisting of a cookie center topped with caramel and coated in milk chocolate. Its most familiar selling point is that there are two Twix bars per package, supposedly doubling your enjoyment.

==External Links==
*[[HR:costumes05.html|Watch "More Fan Costumes"]]
*[[HR:costumes05.swf|View the Flash file for "More Fan Costumes"]]
*[[Forum:5847|Forum thread re: "More Fan Costumes"]]

[[Category:Fan Material]][[Category:Halloween]]

Talk:do over

2005-11-01T02:56:33Z

GregHosting: Who's making out with Marzipan?

==Homestar's costume==

This article states that: "{Homestar Runner shuffles up on his knees. He's scribbled yellow marker on himself, attached some black thing to his head, and put black dots all on one side to look like The Cheat.}" Given that The Cheat is dressed as Homestar in the easter egg I can imagine there's some kind of co-operation there; basically I think it's a fairly baseless assumption to say that Homestar has dressed himself up when we don't actually see the act or any kind of authoritative reference to it, and The Cheat was obviously in on it.

Thoughts? --Goatboy

:You know, that's a good point. The description could be just as effective and concise without having to make that assumption. I'll adjust it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:25, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Spike==
Coach Zed is reminiscent of Snoopy's brother Spike.

Yeah, that's what I thought. [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 21:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== Marzipan: Ignorant? ==

I don't think Marzipan is as smart as was previously shown. She couldn't see through such an obvious disguise in the Easter Egg. It would seem Homestar and her are very alike... --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 19:45, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*I dunno... she couldn't tell that [[Homestar Jr.]] wasn't really talking. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:06, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*I personally think that Marzipan only pictures herself as smarter than Homestar, in a similar fashion to how Strong Bad pictures himself as a cool ladies man. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*I'm guessing Marzipan knew that it was The Cheat and just took advantage of the opportunity. Her and The Cheat have seemed to have had a thing for each other for a while anyway. -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 01:56, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
** O_o If you say so... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:57, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Don't forget about Tofu Homestar. She seems to like Homestar more when he's not really Homestar. :P -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Marzipan's none too bright, it seems. '_' --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:32, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

== SCRAWNY ADDITIONS ==

Stop making scrawny additions like "running time: 4:23". I had the entire sbemail done and then it said "someone else has changed the page" and all that was changed was that you added "running time: 4:23"! Thanks a lot! --[[User:EMJS|''EMJS'']] [[User talk:EMJS|(Talk)]] 19:50, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

: It's just as well. I finished the draft anyway. And, as a note, your edit is at the bottom of the screen in an Edit Conflict and can be easily copy/pasted back. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:51, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

NOTE: Edit conflict; what a great way to make my point!
:Uh, you know that your text is on the bottom, right? You can easily copy the text from there, as I just did. Also, running time is an important factor, not a scrawny addition. Sorry you got cheated out of a transcript, but it's happened to others too. (Btw, sign your comment) --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 19:51, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== My first addition to the Wiki (or to any Wiki for that matter) ==

I added a link to the forum thread. That is the only change I made. I hope I didn't screw anything up. On my first try, I took too long and got the "Someone else has edited this page" alert, so I cut-to-clipboard the link I added, backed out, and clicked edit again, and as fast as possible, added the link and clicked save.
- Jalexster (sorry, didn't know about not signing my comment. I'll get the hang of everything soon.)
: Cool. We all have to start somewhere. However - and I'm not trying to be rude - but this might be better served on your [[User:Jalexter|user page]]. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 20:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
:: Sorry. Should I delete my comment and move it? - Jalexster
::: I'll let it slide, but you can delete it if you want to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 20:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== Possible Family Guy Reference ==

Last night's new Family Guy episode featured Peter swallowing nickels to get the world record. He also made the jangling noise with his belly. Would this possibly be a reference to Family Guy or is it to vague?
--[[User:24.27.135.88|24.27.135.88]] 21:16, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, there's a vote going on in STUFF about that right now. I certainly think it is, especially given that they've been known to make emails at the last minute and the timing seems too perfect to be a coincidence. From after I voted, 2 people (including myself) say yes and 1 person says no. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 21:18, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

I don't think its a reference, as the episode premiered on Sunday and the email premiered today...I don't think that TBC would have enough time to make such a reference, even if they cared. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]

I noticed this too and was completely weirded out. The Brothers Chaps often pull all-nighters getting their emails out, and this one came later in the day. I'm almost positive it was a reference. And I know this shouldn't be in here, but that was a great Family Guy episode! -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 02:00, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

I was about to list this one. This premiered one day after that episode; whether it consciously influenced them or not, I think it is definitely behind that part of the email. --jbo

According to interviews and such, one of the longest it takes to make a sbemail is 3 or 5 days. They can make a sbemail pretty quickly these days... So it's quite possible. --[[User:StarWarsMonkey|StarWarsMonkey :-)]] 00:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

== 'School'? ==

There were two references in this email about SB and Homestar going to school together (possibly with Strong Mad). Has this ever been mentioned before, or is it just a random joke of some kind?

It has. Strong Sad was talking about how he went to school in Yellow Dello. Sign your posts.-Alice

He ate colored chalk in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]. -H*R guyman.

== little hearts ==

When I first watched this email, there weren't any little hearts above Homestar's head when he said "Strong Bad, I think I'm falling for you." Did anyone else catch that?-Alice
: I saw it very shortly after it came out. Like within less than half an hour. As far as I know, the hearts were always there. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

: Same here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:47, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

oops. my bad. -Alice

== Homestar: Gay? ==

From what he did in this email, Homestar seems like he's gay. Do you think he is?
-Kinsey
: I'm not sure that Strong Bad's imagination counts as canon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:45, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

::EDIT CONFLICT'd!!! With Strong Bad cutting out like that, I don't think that part was real. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 19:46, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

::Homestar "falls" for SB in "real-time", not as part of the do-over. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

::: Does he? Strong Bad immediately ends the whole thing and acts as though it never happened after Homestar falls for him. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 20:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

:::They go into the sequence in what seems like "reality". But they do come out of it as if he was imagining. Regardless, it's just a joke. Strong Bad's allure is so strong, everyone falls for him! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

:Regardless of whether it was imaginary or not, it seems like the joke is that Strong Bad was singing such a terrible song, and then a GUY fell in love with him. And without another reference to Homestar's sexuality, I wouldn't say that this constitutes as a fact. -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

:sigh: Just becasue Homestar has the socio-cognitive developmental equiviency of a 10-year-old does not make him "Gay." (If I used to many big words for you, I just said that Homestar acts like a child).
Does this make him "Retarded?" Quite possibly, but not gay. He's just blissfully unaware of sexuality; much like your litle brother that giggles when you say a mildly naught word. Keep in mind the nature of his relationship with Marzipan. To sum him up, he's not just dim in "I've got a girfriend" department, he's dim to the point of fumbling around a lot and bumping into stuff (not just figuratively, I might add). Is it any wonder that Marzipan is mostly indiferent to his advances?
Be this as it may, I don't believe it's helpfull to put such labels on Homestar. Even if he were a flaming homosexual who advertised his homosexuality and organized daily Gay Pride marches in Strong Bad's living room* I really would't see the point in actively applying the "gay" label to him.

*Why there? Becasue he'd be gay but still Homestar. He's be Gaystar Runner. Or perhaps Homestar Gayer. Take your pick.

This concludes the mostly pointless but also mildly amusing "is he Gay" thread. You may now question your own sexuality if you like.

*Ok, Guys. I'm sorry if I offended anyone. In fact, I'll make you feel happier by saying '''Homestar is NOT GAY!!''' -Kinsey

**I think that the real answer is that '''Homestar is too stupid/innocent to have a sexual orientation at all.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:56, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Casting Coach Zed==
No one seems to be able to agree on this. Should Coach Zed be in the cast list? I vote yes, BTW. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 20:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

No, I don't think so. He was probably just a one-time easter egg gag. --[[User:StarWarsMonkey|StarWarsMonkey :-)]] 00:08, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
: So what? He appeared so he should be in the cast list. I mean, we included Li'l Brudder in the cast list of [[crying]], did we not? And as far as we knew at the time, he was just a one-time gag, correct? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:13, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
:: Li'l Brudder plays a much bigger part in [[crying]] than Coach Zed does in [[do over]]. Also, without the easter egg drawing, Coach Zed isn't really a different person. I say leave him out of the cast list. --[[User:68.82.147.62|68.82.147.62]] 05:37, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

== "Attack of the Show"-ed? ==

This is probably stretching, but Strong Bad whacking Homestar with the keyboard could be considered a reference to the [http://www.g4tv.com/videos/index.html?video_key=9042 Homerowed sketch] found on [http://www.g4tv.com/aots Attack of the Show]. The show used to be [http://www.g4tv.com/screensavers/ The Screen Savers], which featured an interview of TBC: [[Screen Savers Interview - 24 Jan 2005]] --[http://www.madcrasher.com/main/index.php?module=about#e-mail madcrasher]

I just added a note pointing out that the whole "Zed" thing is a bit of a misconception, although technicly it is correct. If you look it up in a grammar/pronounciation guide, it's there. However, in reality it's not so simple. Due to the constant exposure to american media (tv, movies, print, etc.) you are less and less likely to hear a Canadian in Canada actualy pronounce the letter "Z" as "zed" now than you were thrity years ago. Since it seems that it takes about thirty years for the grammar & diction handbooks to get with the times, it's not surprising that you yanks think we canucks all say "Zed" all; the time up here in the great frozen igloo-factury that is Canada. (You just keep thinking we all live in igloos. Gives you less reason to want to invade us.) ;)

In fairness, sometimes I will still pronounce it "zed", especialy when it comes to spelling my nameout loud, (For those of you who weren't paying attention, I just told you that my name has one or more "z" in it.) I know it's still prevelent and has not died outr of useage. I'm just trying to point out that Canadians are not known to say "Zee" from time to time as well as "Zed". Ok?

Now, if you realy wanna get into a pronunciation debate, ask me how to pronounce "Saskatchewan" or "Toque" or "Poutine" (and no, the last one is not the name of the current Russian leader, bet rather an food item unique to Canada.) Or something harder if you really wanna get into it.
I'm all Canadian, all the time.

-Sarge

== Round ol red head? (or something similar) ==

Isn't the begginning of the serenade a reference to the King of town's description of Strong Bad in the Strong Bad in jail cartoon? -Carlo

I don't think so, but it is more evidence toward the theory that the wrestling mask is Strong Bad's head. -Alice

== Unrelated RWR ==
*Strongbad's denying that he has ever made any mistakes is a reference to George W. Bush's similar answer to that question during a press conference.
**''Found this in real world references. IMO, it's rediculously stretched, and hardly related at all, so i'll be removing it from the RWR for now. If there's any objections, take it to STUFF, k?'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 23:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

== Possible goof ==
Marzipan never wears lipstick, sohow did she cover The Cheat in it?-Ashley

Good Point. It shows, as was mentiones above, that Marzipan likes Homestar more when he's not actually Homestar. That kind of thing always happens in cartoons. -Alice

How did Marzi slap Homestar in The Yello Dello toon? And who knows if her "hands" are shaped like that?-Leels

== Coach Zed = Spike? ==

Hey...am I the only person who thinks that the drawing of "Coach Zed" looks like Snoopy's brother Spike from Peanuts? Maybe it's the whiskers... -Jeff

:Nope, [[do over#Fun Facts#Real-World References|you're not]]. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 02:58, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
:: It's not listed there, but it IS listed next to the Coach Zed Easter egg and on the [[Coach Zed]] page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
:::Oops.{{User:FireBird/sig}} 03:07, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

==Closed STUFF==
===Grammatically Incorrect (DECLINED)===

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
**Let's just leave it at '''Declined'''. While "alright" isn't accepted as proper English by everyone, it appears in the dictionary, and using "different" instead of "differently" is exactly the kind of subtle mocking of his fans that Strong Bad does all the time.[[User:Kyushu|Kyushu]]
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
* '''"Hey Maestro, if you get DECLINED, can I pick through your stuff on the way back to sol?"'''2 reasons.1) Look, everybody makes some sort of grammar mistake in their life, and 2)Very irrelevant. That's slang that Strong Bad uses all the time. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:40, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
===Totally not gettin' old? (DECLINED)===
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why is it that using the same word means it's a reference to another toon where that word is used? That does not make sense. If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second,''' except for the part about Chewbacca.
===George W. Stnank (DECLINED)===
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**You spelled "political" wrong. It's po-''lic''-tical.[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:18, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline.''' Need I say more? [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
===Bang On The Drum (DECLINED)===
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.
*THIS was in the remarks it seams useless to me don't change it is in the remarks on the page for DO OVER allred this is just caliging it
*'''Decline''' First, sign your posts. Second, although I do think this is mildly interesting, it is not enough to really merit a fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline The angle and force at which the drum is struck can affect it somewhat as well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' Homestar has no arms invisible or otherwise. Quit saying that he does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:35, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because your geekdar's broken. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''revise''' eliminate the second sentence completely. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Decline''' as it is false. If you hit the centre of a drum it gives a low pitch, but hitting the edge of a drum gives a higher pitch. Plus things like how hard you hit the drum, as mentioned above. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 11:38, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Seriously, have you nothing better to do than speculate as to how percussion works for people whose arms actully aren't there? Get a life.
*'''Second Fizz's Post.''' And I'm sure if it was eliminated in the first place, most of the people who have said "Dacline" would have probably voted "Accept." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:20, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not me. '''Decline''' [[user: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 22:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCORPTED!!!'''Some revision wouldn't hurt but it's pretty good as is.[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' - [http://darthno.ytmnd.com/ Darth Vader summarizes my feelings]; just doesn't seem that noteworthy. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
===Falling for You (DECLINED)===
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

*This is a generic sentence that I've heard plenty of times outside Weezer songs - I've left it on do over in case, though.
*Uh, no. No it's not. Turn off geekdar. It's haywire. '''Dolores!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:27, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' are we seriously voting for this? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE''' It's things like THIS that we need to purge STUFF from. Someone had reentered this "fun fact," and I didn't know it was in STUFF. But it looked so stupid, I just deleted it on the spot. That's what should have been done here. C'mon people, while some facts are good to STUFF, like the "Family Guy" one below, others are better off disappearing. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 12:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is only interesting in that the author attempted to atttribute the reference to a band other than TMBG! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Holy crap, no''' That's a very common phrase. Get this so-called fun fact out of my SIGHT. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:03, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondated!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is absurd.''' This is ''not'' how STUFF was meant to work. This page is for those facts that fall in that gray area of "maybe good, maybe not." It's not for ''this'' kind of nonsense. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Um, I dunno what that MEANS! And you're still DECLINED!''' *cough* yup. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, it's not. (declined)''' 21:58 17 May 2005
*'''Yeah, shut up kid kthx''' Keep crap off kthx. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:11, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Are you some sort of Declined Brew?''' Absurd loose music reference. No. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:33, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*Common pharse '''Declined''' [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''DEE-CLAAAANE!'''What?! Are you kidding? Everybody knows "Falling for you" is just a common phrase. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's a common phrase. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' 'Nuff said. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline!''' What everyone else said. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:58 AM, 21 May 2005
*This one doesn't even deserve my vote. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:59, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
=== Change of Pace (ACCEPTED) ===
Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the Family Guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy) episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

*'''Accept-erson''' I actually saw Family Guy the night before this email was released and I thought about it as a watched this email. And considering the fact that [[TBC]] make updates (in this case, the new email) late Sunday night or early Monday morning (usually), it is a possibility. I mean, TBC seem like the kinda funny dudes who watch those kind of shows, like me. 8-P [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd think this would have been in the works for awhile. But, I did read in one of the interviews that they stick jokes in at the last minute. Still, I think it's a stretch. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I was just about to say that! Given the timing and Homestar's comment about being "jingly" ("tell me that doesn't sound like camp town races!") make me believe it. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!!!''' I'm willing to chalk this one up to coincidence without some more solid evidence (okay, okay, I didn't watch it, but it SOUNDS like it's the sort of thing I'd normally call a coincidence.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:24, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' As soon as I saw this, I immediately thought Family Guy, the timing is way too much of a coincedence, and the Brothers do e-mails on Sundays usually, especially since this one wasnt even up until later today, rather than early in the morning like usual. The brothers seem like the type who would watch Family Guy too. --[[User:Dex|Dex]] 21:28, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I would count this as a very bizzare coincidence...while it may be a reference, I doubt that TBC would have much time to put it in, and if they did if they cared so much...besides, TBC is not especially known to steal jokes from other shows. Reference them maybe, but it was essentially the same joke. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Accept.''' <s>I haven't made up my mind.</s> Although, if all the coins were ''nickels'', then it would be more clear-cut... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' and a minor '''rewrite'''-or at least a couple of fixes while I'm looking at it. I saw the same episode, and it seems like a reference to me. The timing's too good to make it unlikely. As for the rewrite, just stick 'aired' after 'episode' (doesn't sound right to me without it) and replace 'where' with 'in which' And Griffin has two Fs. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 23:25, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**Since these changes don't affect the substance of the fact, we'd might as well go ahead and make them.
*Accept You theif!!! I wanted to say this. Oh well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Why do you people think that TBC would reference the show, considering that the majority of Homestarrunner.com does not contain references to other pop culture shows and their jokes, especially not to the extent of stealing a joke. (after all it seems that the joke was not so much a reference as a direct steal if it was)....
**To the person who didn't sign their name: Uh... let me see here, Cheat Commandos is a huge reference to G.I. Joe, which was part of pop culture and is still a well-known character/franchise, Bug In Mouth Disease alludes to Dallas, pizzaz makes a Seinfeld reference, montage makes a big Rocky reference. As such, I have to disagree when you say HSR makes no references to pop culture. Granted, some of the many are no longer in pop culture, and some are dated, but one cannot say that there are no pop culture references. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 01:55, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
***Sorry about that, I forgot to hit the ~s. Now I was not saying that Homestarrunner.com never makes pop culture references...There are dozens, as TBC are big into pop culture in general. All I am saying is that the examples listed above parody or make fun of or at least ellaborate on pop culture. Not so with the alleged Family Guy reference. That seems to be (a) Not anywhere near as obvious as the others and (b) pretty much the same joke that Family Guy used. I personally would assume that TBC would be original enough to make up their own jokes, not use others, and I think there is a large difference in referencing and stealing the entire joke. Besides, I doubt they had enough time to anyway. I still think it is a coincidence. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
***On the other hand, it was posted one day after the episode aired, which is why I accepted this when I would normally decline --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* In ''The Dilbert Future'' by Scott Adams, Scott has a chapter where he talks about ideas, and how sometimes they can come off as not-original. He wrote a chapter about security cameras in public places and when he turned on his T.V there was a report on the exact same thing. He wrote a comic with a joke about a fake opera singer called "Placebo Domingo" and when he opened his newspaper there was a comic with the same exact joke. I guess what I'm saying is...its a coincidence. Don't be so quick to accept just because of that. This one should never have been STUFF'D, just deleted. '''Decline from school''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Unless I see evidence that convinces me otherwise, I'ma gonna '''Second''' that. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:41, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This one makes sense, and we all know that TBC will do last minute edits to make it even funnier. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 04:09, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**But other than the fact that Homestar eats change, is there anything less...coincidental tying it to Family Guy?
**Yes, the fact that this sbemail was posted the day after that episode aired. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
** Yeah, nice to know you read my reply on COINCIDENCES. Because its likely just a COINCIDENCE do you have any other connections beyond, "it was posted the day after the Family Guy episode". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**No but I'm not changing my vote and there's nothing ou can do about it. :D --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Sorry, everybody who declined this, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with this fun fact. '''Strong Accept.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::Please don't tell people that there is nothing wrong with this. They have their own opinion, and that is okay. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
*I know I already voted, but this sounds too coincidental. The timing and the similar (but apparently not identical) jokes are the only connection anyone has brought forth - and that's not really enough for me. It's possible, I suppose, but usually the "could bes" of the Wiki get near-unanimous declines. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' I say we add something around "It's coincidental that a day before this email came out, Peter Griffin tried to eat coins in an episode of Family Guy." in "Remarks". →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
**That might make a bit more sense as a fun fact, but it still lacks any "funness" or "factitude" in my opinion. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''STRONG ACCEPT''' I watched family guy on sunday, and when I saw the e-mail it made me think in an instant- I think that's a reference to Family Guy. [[User:im_a_evil_wizard|im_a_evil_wizard]] 20:36, 17 May 2005 (ETC)
**I actually thought the exact same thing when I watched this toon on monday. However, despite my early instincts, logically the "reference" would not make sense to me, as listed above -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Considering this email came out the day after the new Family Guy aired and it contained a very similar gag (even though Homestar didn't go blind from nickel poisoning), I'd say there's a good chance that this was an intentional reference. Family Guy seems like the type of show TBC would watch. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:44, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept so strong you'd think there were two of them''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:40, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' Even if it is a coincidence, it's a good fun fact. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** If its a coincidence then there is no reason to list it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Good thing it's not a coincidence --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** How can you be so sure? (oh, and when responded to a bulleted fact, use multiple stars instead of colons. It's easier to respond that way (you MUST use colons to respond to a colon-starred fact or it looks terrible), and the spacing is off if you use colons.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:45, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Usually when there's a pop culture reference, it's supposed to be what makes the joke funny. But this joke is funny on its own. It's actually less funny when I think about it being a reference, because like a bunch of other people said, it wouldn't be parodying, it would be stealing. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Accept.''' It wouldn't be stealing. It would be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage homage]-ing. [[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept''' I was thinking the same thing, but I thought it was a coincedence until I read in an intereveiw that they make the emails on Sunday. Now we just need Homestar to go blind. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
* Okay look, if the e-mail had been posted a week or more after the Family Guy episode, this wouldn't even be an issue, it would've just been shrugged off as a similiar gag and not a reference. TBC are not stupid nor do they blindly rip gags off from other people. The fact that the e-mail aired so close to the FG episode only adds to the evidence that its a coincidence. Family Guy isn't the only cartoon or show to have characters eating change (an episode of the Simpsons had Bart eating change). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Incredibly Strong Accept''' I think this is completely true. Maybe I will second Jay. But I don't think I watched that night, which ep was it of FG? --[[Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:02, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm gonna say ACCEPT''' - Makes sense to me. I like that episode too! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*All right, I'm 90% sure that most of this is because you like Family Guy, not because there's a real connection. The timing is probably nothing more than a coincidence, and from my understanding, the joke is only vaguely similar. EVERY OTHER REFERENCE BAR NONE that goes through STUFF needs a solid connection or it gets near-unanimous declines, but that solid connection is curiously absent here. Why accept this fact? I can't see why! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. I just don't see it. Other than the fact that it involved coinage being eaten, I just don't see any similarity between the two incidents --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*To everyone who wants more evidence: In the Family Guy episode the previous night, there were a couple of jokes about the coins jingling in Peter's stomach, and Homestar makes a very similar jingling noise after eating the coins. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 10:13, 22 May 2005
**Uh, that was already a part of the fact and adds nothing to this discussion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Nor does it add any weight to the evidence that the two jokes are connected. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*I agree with Jay. I think you guys are trying to make a connections where there is none, simply because you want it. I don't think TBC would be cheap enough to steal a joke from Family Guy. I, too, enjoy FG. I enjoy it enough to realize that both Seth Mcfarlane and TBC are original enough to not copy eachother in some sort of "homage".... - [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**It's not a stolen joke or a borrowed one, it's a reference. Sort of like TBC saying "Hi, we like your show" --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** If it IS based on FG, then it's a stolen joke, because they don't give any credit of any sort to the original - including SOLID references (like the type I've been asking for since my vote!). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:29, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Since when was did any of the referrences(anywhere on HR) get mentioned in the credits? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***** You're taking the word too literally. I mean that the references make some mention that can easily be tied to something else that makes the reference (relatively) clear - the name of the character on the Halloween costume is revealed, an exact line of dialogue is replicated, the name of an establishment is thrown into conversation, etc. Where's the tie here? It's a similar joke that could stand on its own without Family Guy having ever used the same joke. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:06, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***** For me it was the coins jingling inside homestar they way they did inside peter. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
****** But that's still just part of the similar joke that could easily stand on its own without FG having ever done the joke. It's not solid. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:21, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
******The point is we do have probable cause to believe this. I suppose it could be revised to say it was posted the day after a very similar joke on family guy aired, and that wether this was a wink at Seth Mcfarline, is unknown. That much is clearly true. --02:52, 23 May 2005 (UTC)~
******* We have just as much reason to accept this as "Get Back Loretta" and you Declined that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:55, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*******I obviously feel the reasoning provided is sufficient and much better than on that one, or I would have declined this one. I didn't however. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*******The only "reasoning" supplied has just given weight to the argument that this is a coincidence. Once again, the fact that the toons aired so close to each other, the fact that TBC DO NOT rip off jokes directly from other people (instead using more subtle references like in the Halloween toons), and that the jokes are not identical only help to show that its a coincidence. Nobody has given reasoning beyond the close air date. THAT is why people are so opposed to this one. And to the person who said the coin jingling noises were similiar: Get a bunch of coins together. Jingle them. Sound familier? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*******Apparently more are not opposed to it, then opposed. All you're argueing is "cus I said so". --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
********And now you're once again resorting to petty insults. Way to give me another reason to see this fun "fact" die. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I vote against. Similar jokes, yes. But not enough to consider one a referance to the other. '''Decline''' --[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 22:41, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is getting sort of petty on both sides, but my firm stance is: if this was referring to anything other than Family Guy, it probably would already be Declined unanimously. This fact is EQUALLY as valid as dozens of other Declined facts. The arguments that have been provided are all circumstantial and probably coincidental: a similar joke that happened to be one day apart. The words "might be" in the fact (which ARE there) cause almost everyone on this Wiki to Decline it without even reading any further. No solid connections - NONE - have been provided. Okay, so they both involve eating coins and having them jingle. That doesn't automatically make it a reference, since no dialogue is reproduced and no names are mantioned. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:41, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
* And I'll say it one more time - it doesn't actually ''refer to'' Family Guy at all. If it IS based on Family Guy then it's nothing more than joke theft, and I'd like to think that The Bros. Chaps are above that sort of plagiarism. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:49, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**Besides, (and this IS getting really petty), the way that Homestar made the sound of coins jangling is not similar enough to be called a reference to how Peter jangled. I mean, how many characters of cartoons have eaten change before anyway? How many have jangled in some sort afterwards as part of a joke? Even if this is a reference (which i highly doubt to be as such), what makes you think it was a Family Guy reference? If Homestar ate nickles, maybe. I like FG as much as the next guy, and I respect both the creators of FG and HSR to be original enough to not steal a joke from someone else. To me, this is starting to feel like that episode of South Park entitled "Simpsons Did it." Have we become Butters people? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:19, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*OK, I think this has been up for quite a while, and even though there is a lot of discussion, there are 15 Accepts and 6 Declines, so this looks like a winner.
** ''{At this point, Jay starts crying. Strong Bad puts away his Li'l Brudder drawing and walks away laughing.}'' How can the SAME PEOPLE declining "No la dee la dee la" accept this? It boggles my mind. There is no substance to this fact. It is "Family Guy did this, and Homestar did it too, and although there's no solid connection, it MUST be a reference" being accepted while "TBC are referencing THEMSELVES in something that contextually makes NO SENSE if it's not a reference and they reference themselves ALL THE FRIKKING TIME" being declined??? HAS THE WIKI GONE MAD?!?!?!?! ''{pant pant}'' Seriously needed to get that out of my system. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:37, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**This is a very sad day for democracy. I can't believe that so many people believe that a connection exists just because two humor places did a similar joke at a similar time. Maybe this explains why so many believe in Nostradamus, fortune telling, <s>and god.</s> -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:04, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*** I'm neither agreeing nor disagreeing with you (out loud) but watch what you type - some people can be VERY aggressive about defending their religion when comments like that are made (I'm not one of them, but I've met enough people who are.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:39, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Sorry about that. It was meant to be a joke. I mean no offense to anybody, religious or not. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:42, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

===A Type of Bad Grammar (DECLINED)===
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a
"DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005
*'''Big-Time Decline'''. Needs to be ''baleeted!'' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:27 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''weak accept''' Because, when we think of deleted, we usually think of Strong Bad saying aloud "deleted," and DELETED appearing on the screen. Except here, he said "do over" and the screen displayed "DO OVER!" Every time the screen on any computer has said deleted, Strong Bad has said it. But, it doesn't always do what he tells it to. (I'm thinkin sisters and virus.)[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:25, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*'''Decline''' Please people. It was a phrase that appeared on the screen. It's not any sort of Deleted! cousin. --'''[[user:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]][[User talk:mibluvr13|dígame]]''' 23:22, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===Stnank or Not? (DECLINED)===

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Yeah. It does.
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What with the angry mothers, and the declining in the town square for all to see...''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:52, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===Tandy 400 Goofs (Accepted)===
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Accept''' - This has all the funness of the fact without the factness of the fun. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptyness''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:52, 9 Jun 2005
*'''Yay, yummy acceptness!''' Why should this be STUFF'd? [[User:68.161.140.124|68.161.140.124]] 01:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:14, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==IMMEDIATE contesting of an Accepted fact==

I'm not letting this die until the fact does. I'm invoking the little-used but perfectly valid power to CONTEST a bad fact that got accepted anyway. I refer, of course, to the Family Guy non-reference, AKA "Change of Pace" (see above). There is no reason to believe that it's a reference that can't be chalked up to pure coincidence, and if the "fact" is true, then it doesn't mean that there was any "homage" - it means that TBC are plagiarists, and I'd prefer to think of them as being better than that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Although this sort of reminds me of Star Wars (so this is how democracy dies), I am with ya. But how would this work anyhow? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Good question. I'm not sure a Fun Fact has ever been seriously contested before. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:41, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Right on brudda! This is a stinky one! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:I propose creating a rebel group devoted to fighting this evil menace. Or you know just bitching about it for a while until they see it our way. Whichever works. -- [[User:69.39.99.20|69.39.99.20]] 21:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:: Whoever you are, as I've stated about a dozen times, this fact is equally as "valid" as many other facts that were tossed straight out the window with unanimous declines. If this had been about almost anything besides Family Guy, it probably would have been thrown out the window with them. I am only trying to keep this Wiki loaded with GOOD facts. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:59, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::Jay, I hate to be the pessimist in some respects, but I honestly don't think you will win this fight, no matter how nobel the cause. A lot of people like Family Guy so much that it blinds their ability to judge objectivly the validity of this so called fact. Of course, I'm right with you in fighting it, but all I'm saying is that it might not work out so well. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:09, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I say this with sincerity and in friendship: What, exactly, are you contesting? Do you want a recount? Okay, I see 16 accepts and 8 declines. Wasn't the process followed correctly? Everyone has had two full weeks to weigh in, and everybody got one vote. If you're just upset that the vote didn't go your way, then my friend, I am afraid I cannot help you. I must point out, however, that you're starting to sound like ''A Few Good Men'' ("Your honor, I object!" "Overruled!" "No, I ''strenuously'' object." "Oh, well, I guess I'd better reconsider.").<div style="text-indent: 2em">The vast majority of fun facts that are based on speculation get declined. Note that they don't get declined because they are necessarily incorrect; they simply do not have enough evidence to support them. (See [[Talk:dangeresque_3#Constantinople.3F_.28Declined.29|Constantinople]] for another example.) But just because you vote "decline" on something does not make it false. Short of TBC making some kind of announcement about this, there's ''no way'' you can be 100% sure that the accepts are wrong and the declines are right. As for me, I was ready to decline the fact, but I decided to watch the toon once more and see what I thought. After viewing it again, and ''considering the timing'', I decided that there was ''just enough'' there for it to be too coincidental to be a coincidence. (And, incidentally, my vote wasn't based on whether ''I'' like ''Family Guy'', but whether I thought TBC do.) I notice that you admit not having seen the episode in question. How, then, can you be so sure? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:45, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)</div>
::Dot com, I have seen the episode, and have been and still am a huge fan of Family Guy. The fact is that this being a reference means that TBC is ''stealing'' a joke. I just didnt consider TBC to be theives and to be original enough.
::Now, I agree. These arguments have been stated and restated millions of times. Saying them over and over again accomplishes nothing. All I am saying is that I think that this form of democracy is flawed. The majority of votes made were done so, IMHO, because the voter enjoys Family Guy. I agree that there is nothing that can be done. Democracy has spoken. I am just disapointed in the STUFF rules so that such a rediculous (again, in my opinion) "fact" can be accepted by such a large margin. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:03, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::I am not a strong supporter of this fact (see my vote way above), I just ''lean'' toward accepting it. And I see your point, but I don't think TBC would consider it stealing. Or if they did, they might not care. Here's how I see it playing out: "Hey, Matt, Peter's eating nickels... that's funny!" "Yeah, Mike, we should have Homestar do something like that. I'll put it in the scene that I'm working on ''right now''." (Emphasis mine.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I'm with Jay on this. I'ma email the Chappos; hopefully they'll answer. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 23:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::I think that's an excellent idea, FireBird. If I had my wish, I'd interview them about once a year and ask about all our little facts that we get so worked up over but they have probably forgotten all about. They'd probably laugh me right out of their office, or basement, or wherever. But then at least ''we'd'' sleep better at night. Actually, if I had my wish then Strong Bad would answer one of my emails. Or, better yet, someone would give me a million dollars bill. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::: You could try asking your computer to print one. Just make sure you say "[[couch patch|please]]". Okay, seriously. The arguments I have given before are the arguments I give now - if it's true, it makes plagiarists of TBC, and there's not enough evidence that we know it's true in the first place. I don't know if they'd ever even bother answering your question, but if they did, it would certainly clear up a lot — just don't count on it happening. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::Plagiarize!
::::Let no one else's work evade your eyes!
::::Remember why the good Lord made your eyes,
::::So don't shade your eyes,
::::But plagiarize, plagiarize, plagiarize-
::::Only be sure always to call it please "research". [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]

== Hey ==

Any ideas why Homestar and The Cheat switched? Tell me.

:No clue. This idea would be better posed on the [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ Forum]. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:02, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== homestar saying "booooo" instead of "mooooo"?==
i always thought that he said booooo. i think he would say that because he is kind of booing strong bad for his "wrong" statement. I also thought that Strong Bad just interpreted it wrong. i could be wrong, i'm just making a statement.
- DDR_freak1
ugh i forgot my user name. at least that's what i THINK it was.
:I hear "moo". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:21, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

* ok, i just thought that it would make more sense if he said moo, but then again, homestar isn't really supposed to make sense in the first place, huh? :P

== Who's making out with Marzipan? ==

This would be a weak fun fact, but judging from the lipstick all over him, The Cheat has made out with Marzipan just like his theme songs says he does. Just sayin' is all. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 02:56, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Teen Girl Squad Issue 10

2005-10-14T17:32:05Z

GregHosting: /* Explanations */ Jumping the Shark with colour

[[Image:TeenGirlSquad10.PNG|thumb|COLOR'D!]]

The Teen Girl Squad celebrates The Ugly One's sweet someteenth birthday in 24 great-smelling colors!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Cheerleader}}, {{Film|So and So}}, {{Film|What's Her Face}}, {{Film|The Ugly One}}, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#A Mighty Warrior|A Mighty Warrior]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Olympic Man and Coach|Olympic Man]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Olympic Man and Coach|Coach]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Wave o' Babies|Wave o' Babies]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Smiley Face Man|Smiley Face Man]], [[Wikipedia:Henry Rollins|Henry Rollins]], [[Wikipedia:Abe Lincoln|Abe Lincoln]], [[Wikipedia:George Washington|George Washington]], {{Film|Thomas}}, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Olda Boys|Olda Boys]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Quarterback|Quarterback]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Possums|Possums]], [[Visor Robot]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Gift Exchange Lion|Gift Exchange Lion]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Hawaiian Guy|Hawaiian Guy]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#No I In Team Boy|No I In Team Boy]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Dinosaur|Dinosaur]], [[Mrs. Commanderson]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Scotsmen|Scotsmen]], {{Film|Tompkins}}, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Fatty|Fatty]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Intercom|Intercom]], [[Manolios Ugly One]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Vultures|Vultures]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Trolls|Trolls]], [[Mr. Pitters]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Learner's Permit Girl|Learner's Permit Girl]], [[Arrow'd Guy]], {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}

'''Date:''' October 10, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:34

'''Page Title:''' Tenth Issue-versary!

== Transcript ==

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' TEEN GIRL SQUAD: TENTHENNIAL EXTRAVAGANZA! In 24 Great-Smelling Colors! ''{the screen is filled with color}'' Cheerleader! ''{groovy grapefruit pink}'' So And So! ''{viscious violent violet}'' What's Her Face! ''{radacious bodadical razberry blue!}'' The Ugly One! ''{gnarly nursing home green}''

''{we open up to a school lunch table}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Lunchtime gals. Now let's get ready to eat...

'''CHEERLEADER, SO AND SO, WHAT'S HER FACE:''' NO FOOD!

'''SO AND SO:''' Eating lunch is for weirdos.

''{The Ugly One walks on to the screen, with a tray of cafeteria food in her hand.}''

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Holla grlfrndz. It's Corn and Corn Alone Day!

''{The Ugly One places a plate of corn on the table. Cut to a close-up of the corn. A tiny samurai warrior carrying a [[Wikipedia:naginata|naginata]] jumps out of the corn.}''

'''WARRIOR:''' Corn is no place for a mighty warrior!

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' So... who wants to come to my sweet someteen birthday bash tonight?

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Is it going to be Nick-at-Night themed again?

'''SO AND SO:''' ''{slaps her forehead}'' I don't think I can stomach another show not on the WB.

'''CHEERLEADER:''' No! We can't come. We have... the... Olympics... tonight!

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Oh, cuz it's a boy/girl party...

''{Close-up of So And So and Cheerleader, who look rather insane.}''

'''CHEERLEADER, SO AND SO:''' a B'GRL PRTY??!?

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Taking the vowels out of words doesn't always make them cool.

'''SO AND SO:''' 'm srry.

'''CHEERLEADER:''' ''{holds up a cell phone, from which "the olympics are sooooo dumb!" is coming}'' So, coach just called and said the Olympics are dumb. We'll be there like shareware!

''{Cut (the music stops). A small man in a red hoodie labeled "coach" is standing next to a rather angry-looking burly man labeled "olympic man." Behind him is a banner that says "OLYMPIC RACE," and a cell phone identical to Cheerleader's is on the ground beside the coach.}''

'''COACH:''' I don't know what they're talking about, I swear!

''{Cut again to the Teen Girl Squad (music starts again).}

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Now, more than ever before, let's get ready to look....

'''CHEERLEADER, SO AND SO, WHAT'S HER FACE, THE UGLY ONE:''' SO GOOOD! ''{the camera does a 360-degree spin around the girls}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Whoa! That was about the coolest thing ever! Me gotta see that again.

''{The cartoon rewinds and replays the 360-spin. The "SO GOOOD!" speech bubble has disappeared and doesn't return. At the end, however, What's Her Face is still spinning.}'' Uh-oh. We got a spinner.

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Wheeeee! ''{the word slides to the right across the text bubble}''

''{A title slide entitled "AT THE PARTY" (imprinted on a cigarette, which a man is smoking) appears. Cut to the boy/girl party. Various characters from previous TGS episodes are attending. We pan right to reveal the TGS sans The Ugly One. What's Her Face is still spinning.}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Alright, wallflowers, watch a professional at work... I'm fit to get makey outy all over those uppaclassmen.

''{Cut to three Scots standing around a wooden barrel marked "XXX," holding froth-topped mugs.}''

'''SCOT #1:''' ACHGH!

'''SCOT #2:''' ACHGH!

'''SCOT #3:''' ACHGH!

''{Cheerleader walks in.}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Any o'you boys wanna ditch this preschool party? I know of a couple HAWT junior college jams we could hit. ''{one of the Scots throws Cheerleader away from them}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' CABER TOSSED!! ''{cut to a spinning What's Her Face}''

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' I really want... some of these chips.

''{Dead Cheerleader falls at the feet of What's Her Face.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Tonk! Ponk!

'''SCOT:''' ''{off-screen}'' BAGH! Only 23 metres!

''{Cut to the bowl of chips. The warrior jumps out of the chips.}''

'''WARRIOR:''' Corn chips are no place for a mighty warrior!

''{The samurai's naginata digs into What's-Her-Face as she rotates, and the upper half of What's-Her-Face's body falls off.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' ''{grinding sound}'' LATHE'D!

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Oww! I hope they have those corn chips in heaven!

''{Cut to So And So and Tompkins, playing a Game Boy.}''

'''SO AND SO:''' Say, Tompkins, Brett Bretterson and I are Splitsville, so I'm lookin for a little rebound action!

'''TOMPKINS:''' Hecks no! I got Bowser on the ropes!

''{A Koopa shell comes out of the Game Boy and strikes So And So in the face.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' ''{the word "pØwned!!" appears}'' Puh-owned! Or however you say that...

''{Cut to The Ugly One's Father, standing at a microphone, speaking to the party crowd.}''

'''MANOLIOS UGLY ONE:''' OK, party people, get ready to give it up for my little girl on her sweet someteenth birthday... and remember, if you're looking for low prices on used and broken electronics, don't forget... Manolios Ugly One's Lectro-Pawn!

'''TOMPKINS:''' ''{offscreen}'' p4wned! ''{said "peh-awned"}''

'''MANOLIOS UGLY ONE:''' And here she is... THE UGLY ONE!

''{Cut to The Ugly One, wearing a red dress and ''much'' more attractive than before. The music is ended with the scratching of a record.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa! Did ''I'' draw that new hotness?

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Thanks for coming to my party everyone! Now let's get it on like Diddy Kong!

''{All people at the party, including The Ugly One, begin dancing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ARROWED II! ELECTRIC—

''{Arrow'd Guy appears on the screen, wearing a tuxedo and holding a diamond ring in a box. He has two spikes on his back, a bad case of razor burn, and what appears to be a mound of corn in his breast pocket.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Wait a minute! Not this time, mister!

''{Strong Bad places a new piece of paper on the screen, containing The Ugly One and a muscular Strong Bad in a construction helmet. In the background are the [[Wikipedia:Great Sphinx of Giza|Great Sphinx of Giza]] and two pyramids.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, why, hello, The Ugly One, you're looking so makey outy tonight.

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Why thank you Sir Hotbod Handsomeface. So are you!

''{Strong Bad and The Ugly One start making out. Cut to Strong Bad at his desk, making out with the paper of The Ugly One. Zoom out to a broader view of the desk, revealing Strong Mad, Strong Sad, and The Cheat standing next to him, looking bewildered.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh...mmm, not bad...oh, twice...

'''STRONG MAD:''' Oh?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Uh...

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{cheat noises}''

''{Strong Bad notices them, and quickly hides the paper.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh! Uh, this is a piece of uh... pi- pizzaa-aaa...

''{Strong Bad shoves most of the paper into his mouth.}''

''{Cut to a crumpled & salivated paper, with the "IT'S OVER" screen appearing on the paper. A faint outline of the making-out scene is visible.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{slightly muffled}'' IT'S OVER!

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{off-screen}'' Uh, Strong Bad, were you just first-basin' it with that piece of loose-leaf?!

==Easter Eggs==
* At the end, click on the "O" to play a scene with Manolios Ugly One.
:'''MANOLIOS UGLY ONE:''' So okay, guys. Come down and be shopping at Manolios Ugly One's Lectro-pawn! ''{"come down and see us" flashes on the screen.}'' I have a price on broken VCR, smashed tape, or something like that. I'll be over here yelling, Manolios Lectro-pawn! ''{he appears upside-down from the top of the screen}'' Manolios Lectro-pawn! Or something like that.
* Click on the "!" to play a scene with the girls.
:'''CHEERLEADER:''' It's our tenth issue-versary!!! Let's do a clip show!!!
:'''SO AND SO:''' Let's have a wedding!!
:'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Let's have a baby!!!
:'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Let's kill someone off!
:'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Okay!
:''{A "splat" is heard, and Cheerleader's head is turned upside-down, but with one ponytail still coming out of the "top" of her head, with the other ponytail on her backside and her arms and legs swapped. So and So is squished by a giant golf ball. The Ugly One is eaten by a carnivorous plant. What's Her Face's upper body has been replaced by a lamp and lampshade.}''

==Fun Facts==
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===Explanations===
*"24 great-smelling colors" refers to scented markers like the [http://www.sanford.com/sanford/consumer/jhtml/new-product/productdetail.jhtml?attributeId=SNATT20025&nrProductId=SN20072 Mr. Sketch] series.
*"pØwned" is a variation of Internet slang meaning "owned". "[[Wikipedia:Pwn|Pwned]]" has numerous pronunciations, with popular ones including "owned" or "poned". Along the same lines, "P4wned" would also be [[Wikipedia:Leet|leetspeak]] for "pawned" as in pawn shop.
*The [[Wikipedia: Caber toss|Caber toss]] is a traditional Scottish sport, usually involving a log of specific weight. However, the remark "BAGH! Only 23 metres!" does not apply to the sport, for distance does not matter, but how straight the throw is when it lands on the ground or the number of rotations in the air.
*A [[Wikipedia:lathe|lathe]] is a tool used to create objects with [[wikipedia:rotational symmetry#Rotational symmetry with respect to any angle|cylindrical symmetry]] such as table legs. It works by rotating the subject while a cutting or smoothing tool is applied, evenly removing material around its circumference.
*[[Wikipedia:Clip show|Clip shows]], weddings, new babies, and characters getting killed off are staples of anniversary episodes and are generally considered signs of a TV show [[Wikipedia:Jumping the shark|jumping the shark]]. Such episodes also reprise characters and themes from the show as a whole (this issue features a great number of minor characters from previous issues). In the 60s, some shows such as The Beverly Hillbillies were thought to have jumped the shark when they made the switch from black and white to color.
*The "Sweet Someteen" birthday is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Sweet sixteen (birthday)|sweet sixteen]].
*[[Wikipedia:Shareware|Shareware]] is generally software that an individual creates and grants distribution rights to for free (accompanied by a request for payment), with the intention that recipients will like it and share it with other people, increasing its visibility and potential profitability.
*The 3 "X's" on the beer barrel surrounded by the Scots are marks that once signified the thouroughness of distillation of [[Wikipedia:moonshine|moonshine]], but now have come to be synonymous with any type of alcohol.

===Remarks===

*This cartoon uses a faster [[Wikipedia:Frame rate|frame rate]] than any of the other ones before due to the 3-D sequence; this makes Strong Bad's makeout sequence seem a bit more smooth than the normal animation.
*Cheerleader and So And So leave the vowel Y in their words during the vowel-less scene. 
*This toon has more characters in it than any other toon to date.
*The music at the party is a dance mix version of the TGS main theme song.
*Even though it says in "24 great smelling colors", there are 43 colors.
*Strong Bad drew the "It's Over!" page on the back of the making-out page (you can see it reversed through the page, which is crumpled).
*This is the first time we've actually seen Strong Bad kiss something.
*When Strong Bad places the paper of himself greeting The Ugly One over the ARROW'D II page, you can faintly see the ARROW'D page beneath it.
*This toon, the 10th issue special, was released on October 10, or 10/10.

===Goofs===
*So And So's teeth are "flesh colored" in her introductory shot.
*"Vicious" is misspelled as "viscious" in So and So's description.
*When Manolios says "give it up," his speech bubble says "give up."
*Near the end, in the "real life" scene, we see the "ARROWED II" paper on the desk. However, it is missing the "II."
*In the Easter Egg, when Manolios Ugly One is waving his arms around, a gap opens and closes repeatedly in his beard.

[[Image:Babydaddy.PNG|100px|thumb|Oops.]]
===Glitches===
*In the rotational scenes, Cheerleader's ''baby daddy'' floats off of her dress. This is probably because of a shortcut taken which involves decorations such as eyes rotating around spherical objects, such as heads. Masks are then added to cause the eyes to disappear when they leave the head area. Apparently they forgot to add this mask to Cheerleader's dress.

===Inside References===
* "ARROWED II!" is a reference to "ARROWED!" on [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]].
* "[[Minor_Teen_Girl_Squad_Characters#Brett_Bretterson|Brett Bretterson]]" is So and So's imaginary boyfriend in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]].
* The three scotsmen saying, "ACHGH! ACHGH! ACHGH!" is a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]], where three of the girls say "word" and "a'ight" in the same fashion, and a similar occurence in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5|Issue 5]], with George Washington, Abe Lincoln, and Henry Rollins all saying "woot" in sequence.

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Nick at Nite|Nick at Nite]] is a programming block of [[Wikipedia:Nickelodeon (TV Channel)|Nickelodeon]] that runs "classic" TV like ''[[Wikipedia:Cheers|Cheers]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:The Cosby Show|The Cosby Show]]'', while [[Wikipedia:WB Television Network|The WB]] is a network historically aimed at teens, with shows such as ''[[Wikipedia:Dawson's Creek|Dawson's Creek]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:Gilmore Girls|Gilmore Girls]]''.
*[[Wikipedia:Bowser|Bowser]], [[Wikipedia:Koopa|Koopas]] and [[Wikipedia:Diddy Kong|Diddy Kong]] are [[Wikipedia:Nintendo|Nintendo]] characters.
*Tompkins is playing the original 1989 [[Wikipedia:Game Boy|Game Boy]] model. However, Bowser never appeared in an original Game Boy game.
*The grinding noise Strong Bad uses when the warrior "lathe"s Whats Her Face is strikingly similar to the noise made by electric can openers, which spin the can slowly in a similar fashion.
*"ARROWED II! Electric..." is a reference to the movie [[Wikipedia:Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo|''Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo'']], which has become a pop culture reference about facetious follow-ups to popular films.
*The "spinner" gag refers to glitches in physics simulation used in CGI animation, such as when certain objects fail to stop moving. Examples can be seen in the special features of the computer-animated film ''[[IMDb:tt0198781|Monsters, Inc.]]''

== External Links ==
*[[HR:tgs10.html|watch "Teen Girl Squad Issue 10"]]
*[[HR:tgs10.swf|view the Flash file for "Teen Girl Squad Issue 10"]]
*[[Forum:5318|forum thread re: "Teen Girl Squad Issue 10"]]

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Talk:Everybody Everybody Poster

2005-05-16T06:43:39Z

GregHosting: /* Not Included Section? */

==List Needed==
We need a list of every character on here. I know this will be hard to do, since there are so freakin' many of them, and it'd be hard to list them in a certain order, but I do think we need one. Anyone want to tackle this? →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]
:I'ma go try it. I'm also buying the poster soon, so I'll be able to get a more accurate list soon. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:02, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Dangeresque?==
Is dangeresque on there? -SgtKeeling

Response to Dangeresque question:
I don't think he is on there, in that Dangeresque is not a character in his own right - just Strong Bad doing some acting. If anyone notices any counter-examples to my arguement then I will retract my statement.
- Tweek

Yeah, when you think about it like that, you're probably right. -SgtKeeling

: Though it is interesting that the 1936 and storybook/sketchbook equivalents of some characters are on it. The poster might have a legend on it - many pictures of this sort do. But I'm just speculating; until someone gets the poster for real, we can't really say. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:37, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

:: Actually, come to think of it, I hope a legend IS included - it would clear up the official names of many characters (not the least of which is The Kaiser - who I always want to call The Kaiser of Town - and 20x6 Homestar - whose real name is some variation on 1-up Extraman according to many sources, but the exact spelling is unknown.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:54, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Bigger Picture Wanted==
I wish there was a bigger picture. I was continuously trying to figure out what the big green thing was (I thought it might be the Poopsmith in one of his halloween costumes) before I realized it was the Bad Graphics Ghost. [[User:152.163.100.203|152.163.100.203]] 15:24, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
: There WILL be, once someone here actually gets the poster. Likely tomorrow for me. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:37, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Homeschool Winner ==

.. and the unguriats :) I wonder how many characters from our rejects section are not there. [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 13:47, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
:Why should they be there? They were never characters from the start. Plus, the rejects section doesn't exist anymore. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:27, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Character List Organization ==

How should we do this? Right now we've got it going from bottom row to top (since that's the only way I could do it right now). Should we split the poster into four different squares and list all the characters in each square? →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:I like the way it's going currently better than the square idea. It helps people find the character they're looking for better. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 19:28, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

::If you have the poster you can see that the rows might get a little mixed up. But for the bottom two rows it looks pretty good. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:::They do get a bit mixed up, but I still think people could sort them into lines. I don't like the square idea too much at all. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:53, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::Due to the sheer number of characters, maybe it's be an idea to use more than 4 squares? Maybe 9 (like a naughts-and-crosses [tic-tac-toe] board)? Or if someone could get a larger scan of the poster, maybe they could outline/monotone highlight each individual character (there must be some software that could do the job) and number each one? The current image scan would be way too small for this. Was a legend included with the poster? --Tweek

:::::No, there was not. But so far the rows are working out nicely. I think we're going to stick with them (for now). →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:I STRONGLY disagree with Joshua. I put them in the four blocks earlier because THAT made it easier to find the characters - the "rows" are much more vague (how can you tell the fifth row from the sixth, aside from who's in it?) But I'm adding characters in the row-format anyway... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:09, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I think that the rows are much better. The point isn't that you count the rows up to find the character you want. With the rows, you can tell who's on either side of the character, and that makes it much easier to find. The squares just give all the characters in the square in a semi-random order, so all you know is that the character is in that square.
:: Well, no. Look at my square-by-square listing above (done before I actually received the poster). It does go row-by-row, top-to-bottom, left-to-right - within each square. But I've scanned a picture of the poster onto my computer - I might MAKE a legend if I'm so inclined (though it's be a tiny bit distorted - I took the picture from a slight angle. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:38, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::Oh, okay, that sounds good. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:49, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Not Included Section?==
Should characters (that appeared before [[animal]]) that were not included in this poster have their own list? Like, possibly in the empty slot in the 3 by 3 square of lists? Now that there is a definite list of characters, this would be possible, and could be interesting. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:59, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
: Interesting idea. The problem? If such a section is created, newbies '''will''' try to add characters created after Sterrance (and, as thus, are off-limits for more obvious reasons.) I'm neutral to the idea itself. Realize, though, that the list of unused characters would be MUCH longer than any of the "rows". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:04, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
::Actually, this is a pretty obscure page, and newbies may find it difficult to find. And I don't think a newbie attack would be too much of a problem if this thing was created. And you're right, it probably be much bigger than the lines, so it should probably be by itself. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 19:28, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::Alright, if no one says anything against it, I will start working on the Not Included list sometime soon. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:37, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Wow. ==

It ain't until you see that picture that you realize just how many H*R characters there are. Although of course many are just variations of one another. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 19:20, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Everybody Everybody Poster

2005-05-16T06:42:50Z

GregHosting: /* Not Included Section? */

==List Needed==
We need a list of every character on here. I know this will be hard to do, since there are so freakin' many of them, and it'd be hard to list them in a certain order, but I do think we need one. Anyone want to tackle this? →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]
:I'ma go try it. I'm also buying the poster soon, so I'll be able to get a more accurate list soon. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:02, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Dangeresque?==
Is dangeresque on there? -SgtKeeling

Response to Dangeresque question:
I don't think he is on there, in that Dangeresque is not a character in his own right - just Strong Bad doing some acting. If anyone notices any counter-examples to my arguement then I will retract my statement.
- Tweek

Yeah, when you think about it like that, you're probably right. -SgtKeeling

: Though it is interesting that the 1936 and storybook/sketchbook equivalents of some characters are on it. The poster might have a legend on it - many pictures of this sort do. But I'm just speculating; until someone gets the poster for real, we can't really say. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:37, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

:: Actually, come to think of it, I hope a legend IS included - it would clear up the official names of many characters (not the least of which is The Kaiser - who I always want to call The Kaiser of Town - and 20x6 Homestar - whose real name is some variation on 1-up Extraman according to many sources, but the exact spelling is unknown.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:54, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Bigger Picture Wanted==
I wish there was a bigger picture. I was continuously trying to figure out what the big green thing was (I thought it might be the Poopsmith in one of his halloween costumes) before I realized it was the Bad Graphics Ghost. [[User:152.163.100.203|152.163.100.203]] 15:24, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
: There WILL be, once someone here actually gets the poster. Likely tomorrow for me. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:37, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Homeschool Winner ==

.. and the unguriats :) I wonder how many characters from our rejects section are not there. [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 13:47, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
:Why should they be there? They were never characters from the start. Plus, the rejects section doesn't exist anymore. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 21:27, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Character List Organization ==

How should we do this? Right now we've got it going from bottom row to top (since that's the only way I could do it right now). Should we split the poster into four different squares and list all the characters in each square? →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:I like the way it's going currently better than the square idea. It helps people find the character they're looking for better. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 19:28, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

::If you have the poster you can see that the rows might get a little mixed up. But for the bottom two rows it looks pretty good. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:::They do get a bit mixed up, but I still think people could sort them into lines. I don't like the square idea too much at all. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:53, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::Due to the sheer number of characters, maybe it's be an idea to use more than 4 squares? Maybe 9 (like a naughts-and-crosses [tic-tac-toe] board)? Or if someone could get a larger scan of the poster, maybe they could outline/monotone highlight each individual character (there must be some software that could do the job) and number each one? The current image scan would be way too small for this. Was a legend included with the poster? --Tweek

:::::No, there was not. But so far the rows are working out nicely. I think we're going to stick with them (for now). →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:I STRONGLY disagree with Joshua. I put them in the four blocks earlier because THAT made it easier to find the characters - the "rows" are much more vague (how can you tell the fifth row from the sixth, aside from who's in it?) But I'm adding characters in the row-format anyway... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:09, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I think that the rows are much better. The point isn't that you count the rows up to find the character you want. With the rows, you can tell who's on either side of the character, and that makes it much easier to find. The squares just give all the characters in the square in a semi-random order, so all you know is that the character is in that square.
:: Well, no. Look at my square-by-square listing above (done before I actually received the poster). It does go row-by-row, top-to-bottom, left-to-right - within each square. But I've scanned a picture of the poster onto my computer - I might MAKE a legend if I'm so inclined (though it's be a tiny bit distorted - I took the picture from a slight angle. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:38, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::Oh, okay, that sounds good. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:49, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Not Included Section?==
Should characters (that appeared before [[animal]]) that were not included in this poster have their own list? Like, possibly in the empty slot in the 3 by 3 square of lists? Now that there is a definite list of characters, this would be possible, and could be interesting. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:59, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
: Interesting idea. The problem? If such a section is created, newbies '''will''' try to add characters created after Sterrance (and, as thus, are off-limits for more obvious reasons.) I'm neutral to the idea itself. Realize, though, that the list of unused characters would be MUCH longer than any of the "rows". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:04, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
::Actually, this is a pretty obscure page, and newbies may find it difficult to find. And I don't think a newbie attack would be too much of a problem if this thing was created. And you're right, it probably be much bigger than the lines, so it should probably be by itself. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 19:28, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::Alright, if no one says anything against it, I will start working on the Not Included list sometime soon. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:37, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
::::Sounds good, but where do you draw the line? As was pointed out earlier, [[Dangeresque]] is only Strong Bad playing a character, so would he be on the list?--[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:42, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== Wow. ==

It ain't until you see that picture that you realize just how many H*R characters there are. Although of course many are just variations of one another. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 19:20, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Fourth Wall Breaks

2005-05-14T06:43:33Z

GregHosting: /* Are these really fourth-wall breaks? */ Signed

This answers my question, I guess we are going to be tracking all 4th wall breaks. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 16:36, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

Can we at least be grammatical and call this something like "Fourth Wall Violations"?

I was going for [The] Fourth Wall Breaks, actually, as in "Fourth Wall Breaks! Details at 11." But if you think it's confusing, by all means change it. I'm just not going to go through the effort. :) --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]

I think this should at the very least be separated into two categories: "Audience Acknowledgement" in which the characters talk about the audience, and "Total Breakage", which consists of e-mails like "virus" that make fun of them being on a website. It's important to realize that somebody could theoretically make a real website in which they read e-mails sent in to them, so acknowledgement of an audience is not necessarily the same as acknowledgement of "cartoondom". So audience acknowledgement might not even qualify. --Tom H.

I argee, since "audience acknowledgement" could refer to all the emails. "Fourth Wall Breaks" should be limited to "Total Breakage".--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 15:33, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)

"Total breakage"... don't know what I was thinking with that one. As with "cartoondom." --Tom H. (I actually signed up for the wiki but forgot my username.)

I don't think this page is necessary. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

For Homestar Runner dot com, breaking the fourth wall is the rule rather than the exception. Except during the main toons (and even at times during them) the characters all seem to be fairly aware of an audience. Many references are made to the site, to sending Strong Bad emails, and there are few instances of characters being concerned that others are talking to the audience. Therefore, I don't think this page should exist. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]

== Are these really fourth-wall breaks? ==

To quote Wikipedia:

"The term breaking the fourth wall is used in film, theater, television, and literary works; it refers to a character directly addressing an audience, or actively acknowledging (through breaking character or through dialogue) that the characters and action going on is not real."

This page should not exist if one's definition of fourth wall breakage includes audience awareness through participation. It should exist (in some form or another) if one only counts the complete breakages (i.e. references to "the black").

In my opinion, this should only list total breakages. However, just implying that you're essentially watching a cartoon is NOT breakage in my opinion (they never say it really IS fake, just that it's not a live broadcast), so to me, only [[flashback]] (Homestar says he's usually behind the black) and [[virus]] (if you need THAT one explained, you need to go watch it) is breakage.

I'll gladly detail WHY I don't think the rest are breakages if anyone requests it for a particular e-mail. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 13:21, 6 Dec 2004 (MST)

* I concur. If we refer to every time Strong Bad recognizes he's being watched in a Strong Bad e-mail, we have to list every single last Strong-Bad e-mail!!! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:17, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)

* One could assume he's doing a Jennycam style live webcam show. Featuring him. Answering emails.
o
*That seems to be the most likely scenario. -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

You know, this is a very interesting question, and I'm happy to see so many people debating it. As a major in film and a minor in drama, however, I can certainly attest to the fact that "breaking the fourth wall" is an important concept to at least TRY to point out. For folks in the trade and in the scholarly-studies, it basically translates to "acknowledging the 'real' world outside of the filmworld or playworld." In film, this rule is hardly ever broken -- actors are rarely directed to look directly into the camera. 99% of the time, they're often looking just to the side of it. When an actor DOES directly address the audience, because breaking the rule is SO strange and SO "not done," it's usually used for kooky humor, as in ''Ferris Bueller's Day Off'', or for jarring psychological effect, as in ''Psycho''. H*R being a cartoon only makes this page more interesting, because it's taking a pretty intellectual concept and putting it to use for the masses. Voila. -- [[User: Queenie-C|Queenie-C]]

:I say point out that the whole concept of SBEmails points out that Strong Bad knows he's on a cartoon, and then delete all the boring ones where he mentions the viewers and stuff. The only exceptions should be the really interesting ones which go beyond simple dialogue, like The Cheat watching an Email on his computer. Besides that, I think all the other mentionings of fourth wall breakage are fine. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:01, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I may have a way out of all this: Strong Bad is running a small operation ''inside'' the homestar-verse for the benefit of those within it. That is to say, Strong Bad is an internet star inside the world of Homestar and Friends, which is why The Cheat can watch on his computer (or Strong Bad do the show ''from'' The Cheat's computer). In this context, we are not watching Strong Bad answer email for our benefit, but for those inside; we just get to watch, explaining why we can follow Strong Bad around when he leaves his computer. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 10:08, 11 May 2005 (PDT)

I don't know if [[2 years]] neccessarily breaks the fourth wall, since [[Homestar's Website]] is not www.homestarrunner.com. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 06:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

== Declined Fun Facts ==

These were on the [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] page and declined. If you wish to contest these, leave a note here, but don't allow it to be confused with any of the original votes.

===Strong Bad wants a cartoon (Declined)===
In the King of Town DVD comentary, Strong Bad complains about the King of Town having his own cartoon while he dosen't have his own.
*'''Decline.''' The fact that he's doing a commentary seems to point he knows they have cartoons.--[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:17, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 05:35, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What is it with these obvious Fun Facts showing up all over the place? This one ought to be in the transcript, if it isn't already... which means this one doesn't even warrant voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I'm the one who STUFF'd this, and it was mentioned in [[Fourth Wall Breaks]], not [[The King of Town DVD]]. This fact is supposed to apply to a fourth wall breakage. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 07:19, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**And it still deserves a '''Decline,''' because it's a pointless fun fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:53, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline with a vengence''' The entire idea of the characters doing commentaries is a fourth wall breaking excercise. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I'm ready to "decline" the entire idea of logging "fourth wall breaks"... Strong Bad is constantly making it clear that he knows he's performing for an audience (e.g. "So, until next week, keep sending me those emails...") - Dingell
*'''Decline''' But then, I think the whole "Fourth Wall Breaks" page is a waste of webspace for reasons I think are probably mentioned on its Talk page. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**I don't think its bad, it just needs a clean up... badly. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DECLINED!''' How about Homestar saying "What happened to my website?" in [[The System is Down]] or the fact that Strong Bad getting 400,000+ viruses caused everything in the Homestar Runner world to go haywire in [[virus]]? I'm sure there are several other instances of fourth wall breaking too. Comedies tend to do that a lot. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===Hello, Viewers! (Declined)===
In [insert Strong Bad Email here], Strong Bad says [insert speech here], which hints that he knows he's being watched by an audience.
*'''Decline.''' There are too many of these out there, and they're almost all boring. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline.''' I agree. This fun fact can not be placed anywhere. Could it be that he is so self-esteemed that he believes that he will have an audience for anything he does? [[User: Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005
*'''Decline''' See vote for "Strong Bad wants a cartoon" --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DECLINE''' In addition to the poor spelling, this fact doesn't even say anything! "[insert Strong Bad Email here]"??? Is this some kind of a joke?
**'''Second''' this unsigned vote. So whoever, sign your vote next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123, who is not logged in]]
** You don't get it. This is a general fact - the Fourth Wall page used to have a LOT of Fun Facts in this style, so this is a vote on ALL the facts of this sort. Though I do agree with your vote, I don't with your reasoning. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:46, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Talk:Fourth Wall Breaks

2005-05-14T06:43:03Z

GregHosting:

This answers my question, I guess we are going to be tracking all 4th wall breaks. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 16:36, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

Can we at least be grammatical and call this something like "Fourth Wall Violations"?

I was going for [The] Fourth Wall Breaks, actually, as in "Fourth Wall Breaks! Details at 11." But if you think it's confusing, by all means change it. I'm just not going to go through the effort. :) --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]

I think this should at the very least be separated into two categories: "Audience Acknowledgement" in which the characters talk about the audience, and "Total Breakage", which consists of e-mails like "virus" that make fun of them being on a website. It's important to realize that somebody could theoretically make a real website in which they read e-mails sent in to them, so acknowledgement of an audience is not necessarily the same as acknowledgement of "cartoondom". So audience acknowledgement might not even qualify. --Tom H.

I argee, since "audience acknowledgement" could refer to all the emails. "Fourth Wall Breaks" should be limited to "Total Breakage".--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 15:33, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)

"Total breakage"... don't know what I was thinking with that one. As with "cartoondom." --Tom H. (I actually signed up for the wiki but forgot my username.)

I don't think this page is necessary. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

For Homestar Runner dot com, breaking the fourth wall is the rule rather than the exception. Except during the main toons (and even at times during them) the characters all seem to be fairly aware of an audience. Many references are made to the site, to sending Strong Bad emails, and there are few instances of characters being concerned that others are talking to the audience. Therefore, I don't think this page should exist. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]

== Are these really fourth-wall breaks? ==

To quote Wikipedia:

"The term breaking the fourth wall is used in film, theater, television, and literary works; it refers to a character directly addressing an audience, or actively acknowledging (through breaking character or through dialogue) that the characters and action going on is not real."

This page should not exist if one's definition of fourth wall breakage includes audience awareness through participation. It should exist (in some form or another) if one only counts the complete breakages (i.e. references to "the black").

In my opinion, this should only list total breakages. However, just implying that you're essentially watching a cartoon is NOT breakage in my opinion (they never say it really IS fake, just that it's not a live broadcast), so to me, only [[flashback]] (Homestar says he's usually behind the black) and [[virus]] (if you need THAT one explained, you need to go watch it) is breakage.

I'll gladly detail WHY I don't think the rest are breakages if anyone requests it for a particular e-mail. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 13:21, 6 Dec 2004 (MST)

* I concur. If we refer to every time Strong Bad recognizes he's being watched in a Strong Bad e-mail, we have to list every single last Strong-Bad e-mail!!! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:17, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)

* One could assume he's doing a Jennycam style live webcam show. Featuring him. Answering emails.
o
*That seems to be the most likely scenario. -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

You know, this is a very interesting question, and I'm happy to see so many people debating it. As a major in film and a minor in drama, however, I can certainly attest to the fact that "breaking the fourth wall" is an important concept to at least TRY to point out. For folks in the trade and in the scholarly-studies, it basically translates to "acknowledging the 'real' world outside of the filmworld or playworld." In film, this rule is hardly ever broken -- actors are rarely directed to look directly into the camera. 99% of the time, they're often looking just to the side of it. When an actor DOES directly address the audience, because breaking the rule is SO strange and SO "not done," it's usually used for kooky humor, as in ''Ferris Bueller's Day Off'', or for jarring psychological effect, as in ''Psycho''. H*R being a cartoon only makes this page more interesting, because it's taking a pretty intellectual concept and putting it to use for the masses. Voila. -- [[User: Queenie-C|Queenie-C]]

:I say point out that the whole concept of SBEmails points out that Strong Bad knows he's on a cartoon, and then delete all the boring ones where he mentions the viewers and stuff. The only exceptions should be the really interesting ones which go beyond simple dialogue, like The Cheat watching an Email on his computer. Besides that, I think all the other mentionings of fourth wall breakage are fine. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:01, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I may have a way out of all this: Strong Bad is running a small operation ''inside'' the homestar-verse for the benefit of those within it. That is to say, Strong Bad is an internet star inside the world of Homestar and Friends, which is why The Cheat can watch on his computer (or Strong Bad do the show ''from'' The Cheat's computer). In this context, we are not watching Strong Bad answer email for our benefit, but for those inside; we just get to watch, explaining why we can follow Strong Bad around when he leaves his computer. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 10:08, 11 May 2005 (PDT)

I don't know if [[2 years]] neccessarily breaks the fourth wall, since [[Homestar's Website]] is not www.homestarrunner.com.

== Declined Fun Facts ==

These were on the [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] page and declined. If you wish to contest these, leave a note here, but don't allow it to be confused with any of the original votes.

===Strong Bad wants a cartoon (Declined)===
In the King of Town DVD comentary, Strong Bad complains about the King of Town having his own cartoon while he dosen't have his own.
*'''Decline.''' The fact that he's doing a commentary seems to point he knows they have cartoons.--[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:17, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 05:35, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What is it with these obvious Fun Facts showing up all over the place? This one ought to be in the transcript, if it isn't already... which means this one doesn't even warrant voting. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I'm the one who STUFF'd this, and it was mentioned in [[Fourth Wall Breaks]], not [[The King of Town DVD]]. This fact is supposed to apply to a fourth wall breakage. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 07:19, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**And it still deserves a '''Decline,''' because it's a pointless fun fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:53, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline with a vengence''' The entire idea of the characters doing commentaries is a fourth wall breaking excercise. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I'm ready to "decline" the entire idea of logging "fourth wall breaks"... Strong Bad is constantly making it clear that he knows he's performing for an audience (e.g. "So, until next week, keep sending me those emails...") - Dingell
*'''Decline''' But then, I think the whole "Fourth Wall Breaks" page is a waste of webspace for reasons I think are probably mentioned on its Talk page. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**I don't think its bad, it just needs a clean up... badly. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DECLINED!''' How about Homestar saying "What happened to my website?" in [[The System is Down]] or the fact that Strong Bad getting 400,000+ viruses caused everything in the Homestar Runner world to go haywire in [[virus]]? I'm sure there are several other instances of fourth wall breaking too. Comedies tend to do that a lot. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===Hello, Viewers! (Declined)===
In [insert Strong Bad Email here], Strong Bad says [insert speech here], which hints that he knows he's being watched by an audience.
*'''Decline.''' There are too many of these out there, and they're almost all boring. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline.''' I agree. This fun fact can not be placed anywhere. Could it be that he is so self-esteemed that he believes that he will have an audience for anything he does? [[User: Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005
*'''Decline''' See vote for "Strong Bad wants a cartoon" --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DECLINE''' In addition to the poor spelling, this fact doesn't even say anything! "[insert Strong Bad Email here]"??? Is this some kind of a joke?
**'''Second''' this unsigned vote. So whoever, sign your vote next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123, who is not logged in]]
** You don't get it. This is a general fact - the Fourth Wall page used to have a LOT of Fun Facts in this style, so this is a vote on ALL the facts of this sort. Though I do agree with your vote, I don't with your reasoning. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:46, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Stinkoman 20X6

2005-05-14T06:37:33Z

GregHosting: /* Real-World References */ Stinkoman fights like Mega Man...

[[Image:stinkogame.png|thumb|Always looking for a fighting or a challenge.]]

''Blue hair, anyone? Stinkoman's always got fightings and challenges to keep him busy. Jump and shoot your way to all ends of Planet K. End Boss feature!!'' --[[Videlectrix]] description

'''Stinkoman 20X6''' is a side-scrolling platformer game which stars [[Stinkoman]]. This game is based on the [[Wikipedia:Mega Man Classic|classic Capcom ''Mega Man'' series]]. It also parodies the poor "Japanese to English" translations (a.k.a. "[[Wikipedia:Engrish|Engrish]]") common to video games of that era, similar to those that appear on the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|current Games Menu]].

[[The Brothers Chaps]] showed it off at [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|their talk at NYU]] before it was released.
[[Image:stinkobox.png|thumb|Stinkoman 20X6 box art]]

== Easter Eggs ==
* Hover your mouse below "Controls" on the main menu to access the Instruction Booklet.
** When you click it, "loading manuél" appears briefly.
* Wait long enough at the title screen to see an [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough#Transcript|intro cinematic]].
* Stay still long enough and Stinkoman will yawn.
** On the Level 4 stages, after yawning Stinkoman will rest against his giant fist.
** On the Level 5 stages, 1-Up will fall asleep and blow a [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble snot bubble].

== Fun Facts ==

=== Trivia ===
* This is the first time we have seen [[Stinkoman's House]], or any 20X6 character's house, for that matter.
* According to the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[time capsule]], it would seem that Planet K is Earth in the future.
*This is also the first complete platform game that Videlectrix have ever made, as of course Jon Howe programmed it and composed the music, while the Chaps were simply the graphics designers. ([[Super Kingio Brothers]] was meant as a joke and was impossible to play past the first enemy)
* This is the first appearance of Strong Bad's green tongue since [[Super NES]]. In the "Game Over" screen, Stinkoman's green tongue is shown, although it's red or pink all other times you see it in the game.
**Just as well, 1-Up's "Game Over screen" has him standing with the caption "My tongue is green..."
**Stinkoman's green tongue may be due to the fact that his "stummy hurts".

*As 1-Up if you kick while holding the left or right arrow keys 1-Up will do a spinning kick.

=== Remarks ===
* The game plays entirely backwards from most NES games - the robot is beaten first, and then you guide Stinkoman home.
* There is a hidden power crunch right before the end of the 1st level. Stand at the top of the triangular set of platforms and then jump up to a hidden platform and jump again.
* In the bottom right-hand corner of the PLAY GAME! screen is says "V3.0 EPISODES 1-5"
** It said "V2.0 EPISODES 1-4" until May 9, 2005, when the fifth level was added.
** It said "V1.X EPISODES 1-3" until April 26, 2005, when the fourth level was added.
* This is the second instance of sprites modeled after 8-bit Megaman, the first instance being with Coach Z in [[Hip Hop Dance]].
* This game used to not feature the regular links at the bottom of the screen to move to other parts of the website. But when Level 4 was added the links were added also.
*Play the .swf version. When you die, right click and do the "play" function. The "More to Come!" screen with Stinkoman with the grey fist will pop up.
**On that screen, do like you did with the "Game Over" screen, and you'll start the level over with 0 lives. If you die, you gain one life, but die. Repeat the process for a lotta lives (or to start on THAT level, including bosses.)
*On Levels 4.1 and 4.2, Stinkoman can actually fall down in certain spots to join 1-Up, but you will eventually lose because there will be no one to press the buttons.
*On levels 4.1 and 4.2, you can't go too far from 1-Up, or he will die, even if he is not near any danger.
*In Episode 4, the Pink Cham Cham laser graphic is the same graphic used for the Saargtsson laser animation.
*In the Level 4 cutscene, 1-Up says he will borrow Stinkoman's power crunch. However, in the e-mail time capsule (in which Stinkoman found the "power crunch"), Stinkoman ate it.
*1-Up jumps higher than Stinkoman.
* To get power crunches that are hiding behind enemies without having to kill the enemy, run into the enemy with health to spare. You will take damage, grab the crunch and will be invincible long enough to escape unharmed.
*The head of the silhouette at the end of Level 5 appears to match the head of [[20X6 Coach Z]] in the Games menu.
*Stinkoman "breaks the [[Fourth Wall Breaks|Fourth Wall]]" by saying (in Level 5) "No way! I helped you in Level 4!"
*1-Up is slower at climbing ladders than Stinkoman is, perhaps due to his lack of visible arms.

=== Goofs ===
* The manual has Kolkaryu listed under level 2, but Kolkaryu already appears in level 1.
* The manual has Old Sage listed under level 2, but Old Sages already appear in level 1.
* Greggo will not stop or become indestructable unless you are parallel to him.
**Note: this was done on purpose to make it possible to destroy it. fire and then quickly jump or vice versa to kill it.
* Level 3 is called "Dumb Wall" on the level select screen, but it's called "Up 'n' Down" in the instruction manual.
* In Level 1 in the manual, the original version said "face treats" instead of "fave treats."
* In the manual, Level 3 is the only part to have it's title constantly on the top of the page. All the other Level's titles disappear after the first page.

=== Glitches ===
[[Image:stinkogame slow.png|thumb|Glitch for slow computers.]]
* When the game was first released, you could skip (press space or click) the first part of the final movie (any part before the MORE LEVELS TO COME SCENE) to enter stage 3.4. It was the Stlunko Battle arena without Stlunko: a slightly elevated platform above the ground with two Pooru-Poorus on either side. You could continue traveling rightwards into a barren land before reaching an endless cliff.
**This glitch is now fixed. However, if you play the swf you can still play 3.4
**This again happened in level 4 when it was first released. However, this glitch has been fixed as well.
***Also, if you die once on level 4.4 there will be no ground when you return.
* When you run right and jump, you will flip as if you were running left and jumping.
* If you fall long enough and don't touch anything, Stinkoman will stop doing his falling pose and act like he's standing and will even start to yawn. Such a long fall can be found in stage 2.2.
* You can float in mid-air on level 1.1 if you land on the right spot next to the gray pole close to the beginning, or if a Browntant hits you while you're falling against it.
[[Image:stinkoman-glitch.png|thumb|Stinkoman stands on air!]]
* If you jump at the right time at the end of a level, you can do your victory pose in midair.
* If you die with only one life left after defeating a boss, the usual "die" sequence will happen, but then Stinkoman will do his victory dance with no ground beneath him and you will start the next stage with no lives, which will increase by one life and the "Game Over" screen will appear the next time he dies in the next stage.
* Sometimes you can start up a new game and it will be nothing but Stinkoman and the background. Since there's no ground, you can only fall and die. This may be linked to older versions of Flash.
** A possible reason that this happens is because earlier versions of Flash may not be able to read the levelData xml files. For more information on these files, please see the talk page.
*Not exactly a glitch, but when Stinkoman is about to yawn, his sprite character moves down one pixel.
*There is a spot in level 2.1 where you can fall between a refrigerator and an adjacent stove, and not be able to jump back up.
[[Image:stinkogame-level22-terrell-glitch.png|thumb|Stuck Terrell on level 2.2]]
*In the beginning of level 2.2, there's a Terrell just behind a refrigerator. It seems that it's possible for the Terrell to get "stuck" just to the right of the fridge. It will continue to hop up and down (without moving horizontally at all), and Stinkoman can pass through the Terrell without becoming injured. It also becomes impossible to kill. I've only been able to reproduce this behavior once, on version 1.3.
*The Terrell on level 2.1 can get stuck too(the one above the second burner).
*In level 1.1, if you don't kill the Jaro by the first wall and instead just go past it and the wall under the second browntant, the Jaro will be jumping in mid-air.
*If you use a seek bar, then it is possible to access level Undefined.Undefined. This level is just a grey hole, which Stinkoman is doomed to fall down. Stinkoman's MANS are always either 8, or not there. Regardless, after he falls down once, the game over screen appears. The music is from the boss levels, and Stinkoman even shouts "Are you asking for a challenge?" as you enter. The items counter is also shown, as it is in level 3.1. It even has the "Try level" screen!
[[Image:PinkChamCham.jpg|thumb|A Pink Cham Cham firing only the left laser]]
*In level 4.2, if a and s are pressed at the same time as you're falling into the level from the left, Stinkoman will float instead of walk.
*In Episode 4, when Stinkoman is facing to the right, his giant fist powerup is a left hand but when he turns around the fingers are still facing the player so it turns into a right hand. This "sprite mirroring" is common in older games to conserve memory. A notable exception is Metroid, in which Samus is always right handed.
*Sometimes if you die on the boss after the 2.2 or 1.2 level, you will restart at the boss but there's no ground.
*In level 4.2, if you approach a Pink Cham Cham from the left and see only the left side of it as it fires, when you approach towards the right to see the rest of it, it will only have fired the laser on the left side.
*While you fight the boss in Level 3.3, and you get hit and killed by him towards the right side(if you stand all the way on the right, he won't be able to hit you) the level will restart with no ground below you
**Also, when this occurs, and there is no ground, you can jump if you press the key at the very beginning of the level
*Any damage you took as Stinkoman in levels 3 and 4 will remain on 1-Up in level 5, even though they're not the same person.
*If you die at the beginning of 5.2 before the ship at the top flies by, it will fly by on the Keep Try screen.
**To try this out, get yourself down to one Energy before leaving 5.1

=== Inside References ===
* "Check out my new gameplay!" is a reference to Stinkoman's quote "Check out my new cosplay!" in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
* The nuggets in Level 3.1 may be a reference to [[Strong Bad]]'s [[Character Videos|Character Video]].
* Level 3.2 reveals that Stinkoman hates apples, just as Strong Bad does in [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]]
* The health-restoring pills are a reference to the capsule containing the "power crunch" from the Strong Bad Email [[time capsule]].
**They are also a reference to the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]], where you can get similar capsules to change your ship.
* Grundy's illustration in the manual shows him running in a manner similar to [[Homestar Runner]].
* Stlunko, the level 3 boss, bears a striking resemblance to the [[Visor Robot]].
*The Rose Blake's description in the manual as a "'Lectric burner" is a reference to the email [[extra plug]], where Strong Bad gets '[[Lectric Boots]].
*The line "blast em up [[Dan]]!" is an adaptation of "fry 'em up, Dan!" from [[TROGDOR!]]
*The sentence in the manual, "Falling from the skies and bove", is a reference to [[That Time of Year]].
*The chickens in Level 2 blow up like the ducks in [[Duck Guardian]] after being hit with the hatch ray.
*1-Up Saying "I'm going this way!" is a reference to [[Meet Marshie]].
*1 Up in the level 5 cut scene says "Mooooooon" just like a soy drunken Strong Bad did in [[personal favorites]].
*When 1-Up defeats [[Nebulon]], he says no one likes his style just like Strong Bad did in [[New Boots]].
*1-up saying that he's just a kid, and maybe when he's older is a reference to [[japanese cartoon]].
*The ship that flies by at the beginning of 5.1 and 5.2 is featured twice in "japanese cartoon" and has been said by [[The Brothers Chaps]] (in a commentary for "japanese cartoon") that this was originally intended to be the 20X6 version of [[20X6 The Cheat|The Cheat]].
*The background in Level 5 looks like the third background in the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games menu]].
*Stinkoman's "Start this level" pose is the same with the knife in [[japanese cartoon]].
*In the Saargtsson intro cinema, the line "Single deeeuuuce!" is a reference to the Strong Bad e-mail "[[the bird]]", in which he flips the bird with both hands, calling it the "[[Double Deuce]]". Stinkoman has used this "attack" several times.
**In that e-mail, Pom-Pom also performs the "Single deuce".

=== Real-World References ===
*There are many references to the ''Mega Man'' game series:
** The sprites used for Stinkoman are patterned after 8-bit ''Mega Man'' sprites, and the same applies to the enemy Poorbt and Astromund.
** In fact, the poses of the white silhouette in the logo are taken directly from the NES ''Mega Man'' series.
** The sounds of the text appearing in the cinematics are also the same as in ''Mega Man''.
***The chime noise for the main menu is taken from the first ''Mega Man X'' game.
** In ''Mega Man V'', there is a chicken robot similar to the chickens encountered in level 2.
** When Stinkoman says that the large gray fist could be a new powerup and takes off with it, this is an obvious reference to Mega Man taking the power of defeated bosses.
** At the start of the first side-scrolling stage the little theme played is very similar to the old ''Mega Man'' starting theme. In fact, the whole soundtrack was probably meant to sound like ''Mega Man'' game music.
** Stinkoman being unable to clear the wall using his normal jump is also a joke from ''Mega Man''.
** When all three characters flash onto the screen during the intro, that is also a ''Mega Man'' reference, where in one of the arcade games (namely ''Mega Man: The Power Battles'') Mega Man, Proto Man, and Bass would flash onto the screen in a similar way.
**The spikes that can kill Stinkoman instantly (Old Sage) are a reference to similar spikes which were placed under moving platforms in Mega Man games and which would also kill Mega Man instantly.
** The dropping platforms are a reference to the original ''Mega Man'', in which similar platforms were found in Guts Man's stage.
** Only three of Stinkoman's flying fists can be on the screen at the same time. In the ''Mega Man'' series, Mega Man's bullets also suffer from the same drawbacks. Even in Level 4, Stinkoman can only drop three clusters of rocks onscreen when pounding his giant fist.
***Early sprite-based video games suffered this fate as well. Limiting the number of sprites on screen prevented slow down.
** Greggo is similar to Mets (also known as Metools or Mettaurs), who were also invincible while ducking.
** Stinkoman fights like Mega Man by shooting at enemies while 1-Up fights like Zero with acrobatic kicking maneuvers.
* Stinkoman's becoming bored when idle is an old gag first found in ''[[Wikipedia:Sonic the Hedgehog (Genesis)|Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' and emulated in countless other titles.
* Right after Tampo blows up in the cinematic, you can hear the same sound that is played in Metroid when Samus phases in.
* Stlunko, 404 is a reference to the 404 error that browsers give when a webpage cannot be found.
* Hold B is a reference to ''Super Mario Bros'' and a few other Nintendo games in which if you held down B, you would run faster. In this game, holding S (which is like a B button) allows you to rapid fire.
**It could also be a reference to the fact that in some of the Megaman games (those following Megaman III), holding down the attack button would charge up Megaman's gun, making his next shot more powerful.
* Stinkoman doing a forward flip may be a reference to the ''Metroid'' series, where Samus does very similar flips.
* The fade-in is a reference to NES games that had large images in the background fade in. Because the NES did not have many colors to choose from, there would be weird color glitches with some games when they'd have something fade in.
* The first boss, Tampo, is similiar to the final boss of ''Star Fox 64'', which was the giant, floating brain of the enemy, which had the same weak point (medulla).
* The phrase "Table the Label" is from a hilariously bad motivational video hosted by Mr. T called "[http://www.agonybooth.com/mr_t/ Be Somebody or be Somebody's Fool!]"
* The manual mentioning this game has no "weepy princess crap" is a reference to the Super Mario series, the Legend of Zelda series, and a few other games where you had to rescue a helpless princess.
** Likewise, Pan Pan being kidnapped references the countless games which featured a random character being kidnapped, such as in Donkey Kong Country 2 or 3.
* The bulky, muscular Stinkoman on the box art is likely a reference to the first and second ''Mega Man'' games, where the original American version of the game's box art had a big, muscular Mega Man that looked nothing like the character in the game.
**This problem wasn't exclusive to the Megaman series. Almost every game localized for the U.S had new box art made for it. This continued right up till the days of the SNES.
*The pose with the large fist is a direct reference to the old NES game Battletoads.
*There are a vast number of seemingly unexplainable appearances of letter P in NES-era games. Ranging from P-blocks, P-wings, P-gauges etc. in ''Super Mario Bros. 3'', to the Arm Cannon/Mega Buster character designation in ''Mega Man 2''. This may explain the collectible Ps in level 3.
**P most likely stands for "power" in these games.
*Jaro's explosion appears to be modeled after many of the character explosions in ''Rad Gravity'' for the [[Wikipedia:Nintendo Entertainment System|NES]].
* Lundsford is a reference to the symbol and/or mascot of [http://www.georgianaturalgas.com/ Georgia Natural Gas]. Billboards featuring this symbol and character can be seen in many places in the Atlanta area where The Brothers Chaps live.
*Saargtsson is most likely a reference to [http://www.zeldauniverse.net/content/view/62/46/ Moldorm] from ''The Legend of Zelda'' video games, who was almost exactly the same in terms of appearance, and having a weakness in its tail.
**This is more accurately a combination of Moldorm and [http://www.flyingomelette.com/kidicarus/kidicarusenemies.html Hewdraw] from ''Kid Icarus''.
*1-Up's spin kick bears a resemblance to the [[wikipedia:Street Fighter|''Street Fighter'']] move "Tatsumaki Senpuu Kyaku" (otherwise known as the Hurricane Kick), which Homestar uses in [[dangeresque 3]].
*The description of the Bendini Sisters is a reference to Phil Collins's song "In the Air Tonight".
*[[Wikipedia:Piedmont|Piedmont]] is a region in Northern Italy.
*Level 4's concept is more than likely a reference to the Earthworm Jim level For Pete's Sake. In that level, you are charged with protecting a puppy who walks mindlessly forward like 1-Up, ignoring all major obstacles like enemies and pits.

== See Also ==
*[[Stinkomanual]]
*[[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies]]
*[[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough]]

== External Links ==
* [[HR:stinkogame/v3/stinkogame.html|Play Stinkoman 20X6]]
* [[HR:stinkogame/v3/stinkogame.swf|Play the Game (flash file)]]
* [[HR:stinkogame/v3/objectLibrary.swf|See the Stinkoman 20X6 object library]]

[[Category:Stinkoman 20X6]]

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2005-05-13T06:14:58Z

GregHosting: /* Homestar's Clock */

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2005-05-13T05:57:46Z

GregHosting: /* Eyebrow? */

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2005-05-13T05:55:35Z

GregHosting: /* In correlation with another STUFF'D fun fact */

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2005-05-13T05:55:08Z

GregHosting: /* In correlation with another STUFF'D fun fact */

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2005-05-13T05:43:05Z

GregHosting: /* Elijah Wood */

Kewpie Dan

2005-04-29T05:50:21Z

GregHosting:

[[Image:kewpie.PNG|thumb|It's him.]]

In [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]], if you gave Strong Bad the marshmallow peep, he put you on his "People I Gotta Egg Today" list. Kewpie [[Dan]] was one of the other people on the list.

Clicking on his name brought up a picture of him in a new window with the title "Get Fushling!!" No one is particularly sure what that means. The inset picture appears to show his arm being bitten by a vampire.

== External Links ==

*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/kewpiedan.html see the "Kewpie Dan" page]

[[Category: Inside Jokes]]

Talk:interview

2005-04-28T23:47:14Z

GregHosting: signed it

==non-NPOV Fun Fact==
:''at the beginning, he should say "so few good emails" (Though this is, perhaps, an intentional error, playing on the expectation that he was about to say "so little time.")''
This is non-NPOV—[[User:66.31.174.112|66.31.174.112]] 14:33, 10 Dec 2004 (MST)

:I agree, this is very poorly worded. I think I understand the writer's intent, but this certainly is a "non-NPOV linguistic prescriptivism". I'm thinking the part about the expression "So many [insert something here], so little time" might be worth a mention though.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:04, 10 Dec 2004 (MST)

:This ''is'' NPOV. It's a grammatical issue; because "emails" is a plural noun, "few" is the correct word and saying "so little good emails" isn't correct. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

:A few seconds later he gets twisted up grammatically again. "More... more better". This isn't a good day for SB. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 23:47, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Talk:interview

2005-04-28T23:46:46Z

GregHosting: /* non-NPOV Fun Fact */

interview

2005-04-28T23:44:53Z

GregHosting: /* Fun Facts */

[[Image:sbemail62.PNG|thumb|"I was raised by a cup of coffee!"]]

:''This article is about the [[Strong Bad Email]]. For the short, see [[The Interview]].''

'''Strong Bad Email #62'''

Kerrek asks Strong Bad about Homsar.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Homsar]], [[The Cheat]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]]

'''Date:''' February 10, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 2:10

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' Ahh...so many emails, so little good emails.

''{reading}''

<pre>What's up with Homsar? I know he's
weird and all, but don't you think we
deserve to know a bit more about him?
I think you should do an interview so
we can finally find out what his
deal is.

Kerrek
PA</pre>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, that's a pretty cool name! ''{typing in a Gothic blackletter font}'' And then Trogdor smote the Kerrek, and all was laid to burnination. ''{Clears the screen, starts typing normally}'' My good Kerrek, you might enjoy such an encounter, but I know I can't talk to that guy for more than about 3 seconds before I start thinking that gnawing my own leg off might be a more better way to spend my time...more..more better. ''{clears screen, continues typing}'' Let me show you how it would go down with post-its attached to the top of pens.

''{Strong Bad ducks his head and brings up two pens with Post-It notes attached to them, one with a crude drawing of Strong Bad, the other of Homsar}''

'''STRONG BAD FIGURE:''' All right, then. For the record, please. Tell us who you are.

'''HOMSAR FIGURE:''' DaAaAaA! I'm a song from the sixties!

'''STRONG BAD FIGURE:''' That's just nonsense. Are you trying to make some sense?

'''HOMSAR FIGURE:''' AaAaA! Rightio! I think I can twice!

'''STRONG BAD FIGURE:''' Homsar, tell us about your childhood.

'''HOMSAR FIGURE:''' DaAa! I was raised by a cup of coffee.

'''STRONG BAD FIGURE:''' Interesting. So! How did you end up here?

'''HOMSAR FIGURE:''' 'Twas the pride of the peaches.

'''STRONG BAD FIGURE:''' 'Twas the pride of the peaches, huh? You got any last remarks?

'''HOMSAR FIGURE:''' DaAaA! Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk!

'''STRONG BAD FIGURE:''' Okay, interview over. Commence beating!

''{Strong Bad has the Strong Bad Post-It beat the Homsar Post-It. The doorbell rings.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa! That'll be the Cheat with my Thai iced tea! Come on in!

''{Cut to the entryway. It is not the Cheat, but Homsar himself.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hey Reggie! Is that rhinoceros around?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Um... I can only assume you're talking to me and asking about Strong Sad. He's in the basement.

'''HOMSAR:''' I'm a song from the sixties.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{salting his own leg}'' If you don't get down there quick, things could get real ugly around here.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down. The Cheat shows up with Strong Bad's Thai iced tea but he doesn't take it. The Cheat walks away again.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Once Strong Bad starts typing and the name Kerrek comes up you can click on it and bring up a Strong Sad drawing of Trogdor smiting [[Kerrek]].

*Click on Strong Bad's pen-postit puppets to see a few different versions—you can do this for the remainder of this one, when you see them.
*Once you see Homsar, you can click on the light switches for some cool light effects, like in [[techno]].

*After The Cheat goes away (or even before he shows up) you can click on the Homsar pen puppet to bring up a funny [[Homsar Main Page]], which is also accessible by clicking the "5" in "2005" on any main page except the [[Luau Main Page]].
**The original version of the Homsar main page had only the Toons and Games buttons. After it was added as an Easter egg on the main pages, it was normalized to fit in (more or less) with the rest of the menus.

== Fun Facts ==
===Remarks===
* The salt shaker never runs out of salt at the end of the email. (In [[anything]], a bottle of Mountain Dew acts the same way and Homestar comments on it.)

===Inside References===
*One of Strong Bad's Post-it alter egos is his action figure from the email [[action figure]].
*Homsar's short, squat, post-it character (click through it a few times) looks exactly like Homestar in one scene of [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. Strong Bad even makes fun of the crude early version in the commentary!
*Strong Bad referring to salting and eating his own foot is very similar to [[island]], where he says, while pondering what life on a deserted island with Homestar would be like, "And at some point my foot would look like a sandwich, and I would put salt on it and try to eat it, and it'd be like, 'Ahh, it's my foot!'"
*The second Strong Bad Post-It drawing (the one showing him running) is similar to the caricature of him seen in a [[vacation]] Easter egg.
*Homsar being "raised by a cup of coffee" might explain why he wrote "Taster's Choice" in the easter egg in the email [[dragon]].

===Goofs===
*The lighting effects controlled by the two light switches disappear when the scene cuts to Strong Bad, and are always off at first when Homsar says "I'm a song from the '60s", even if they're on when it first cuts back to Strong Bad.
*If you use a seek bar to view the menu page before you view the email, then watch the email afterward, all of the features from external Flash files normally used on the main pages (i.e. the homepage list, the "What's New" button) appear during the rest of the email.

===Real-World References===
*The phrase "Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk" was said by Shaquille O'Neal in his first Reebok commercial [http://www.sportscenteraltar.com/phrases/usage.asp?ID=125].
*The flying skull-like Strong Bad head is a reference to the Bubble, an enemy from the Legend of Zelda series.
**It also looks similar to the mascot of the 80's band Overkill.

===Fast Forward===
*The Kerrek appears later in [[Peasant's Quest]].

== DVD Version ==
*To view the Easter eggs, use the angle button on your DVD remote. (Except for The Cheat giving Strong Bad his Thai iced tea, which comes up automatically, and the Homsar link, which has been removed.)

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail62.html|watch "interview"]]
*[[HR:sbemail62.swf|view the Flash file for "interview"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]]
[[Category:Homsar Filmography]]
[[Category:The Cheat Filmography]]
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]]
[[Category:Trogdor Filmography]]
[[Category:Kerrek Filmography]]

Downloads

2005-04-28T23:20:51Z

GregHosting: /* Fun Facts */

[[Image:downloadpage.PNG|thumb|Please enter your PIN# for assistance.]]
The current '''Downloads''' page is an [[ATM]]-themed source for official Homestar Runner things:
*[[Downloadable Icons]] (AIM Buddy Icons and Windows or Mac OS X icons)
*[[Wallpaper]]
*[[Songs]]
*[[Strong Bad Clock]]
*[[Quotes Packs]]
*[[System Sounds]] (for your computer)

'''Page Title:''' $2.00 Service Charge!!

== Easter Eggs ==
*From the main downloads page, check your balance using the “$” button. It will say 0.00. Click on 0.00, and the bankcard will appear. Grab the card and put it in the slot on the ATM. Enter 5675 as your PIN to unlock a set of Homsar quotes!
**Note: You can click the top-left corner of the ATM card to flip it over, revealing the PIN.

== Fun Facts ==
*The PIN for the ATM is the same one mentioned in [[Strong Bad Email]]: [[credit card]], which is part of Homestar's PIN. The Superfied Credit Union is also from "credit card".

*Clicking on some of the band names takes you to their websites.

*When you press exit it always takes you to [[Main Page 7]]: ''Dead as a doornail''.
[[Image:lemcard.PNG|thumb|right|100px|Secure card it is not]]
*The card belongs to [[Lem Sportsinterviews]], a prolific [[Free Country, USA]] author.

*The back of Lem's card reads:
<pre>This is a magnificent card.
Superfied Credit Union is
THE NAME in magnificence.
Of crads, at least. I mean cards.
PIN#:5675</pre>

*The "NEW!" sign has been there for about a year (since the Homestarmy wallpaper was added, shortly after the e-mail [[army|army]]).

* If you type in the wrong PIN it says "Wrong Pin#!! I bet you stole this card!".

* If you push the card all the way to the side, you can't get it back unless you reload the page.

== External Links ==
*Go to the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/homester.html Downloads page]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/downloads.swf View the Flash file] for the Downloads page

[[Category:Downloads]]

Downloads

2005-04-28T23:18:32Z

GregHosting: /* Fun Facts */

[[Image:downloadpage.PNG|thumb|Please enter your PIN# for assistance.]]
The current '''Downloads''' page is an [[ATM]]-themed source for official Homestar Runner things:
*[[Downloadable Icons]] (AIM Buddy Icons and Windows or Mac OS X icons)
*[[Wallpaper]]
*[[Songs]]
*[[Strong Bad Clock]]
*[[Quotes Packs]]
*[[System Sounds]] (for your computer)

'''Page Title:''' $2.00 Service Charge!!

== Easter Eggs ==
*From the main downloads page, check your balance using the “$” button. It will say 0.00. Click on 0.00, and the bankcard will appear. Grab the card and put it in the slot on the ATM. Enter 5675 as your PIN to unlock a set of Homsar quotes!
**Note: You can click the top-left corner of the ATM card to flip it over, revealing the PIN.

== Fun Facts ==
*The PIN for the ATM is the same one mentioned in [[Strong Bad Email]]: [[credit card]], which is part of Homestar's PIN. The Superfied Credit Union is also from "credit card".

*Clicking on some of the band names takes you to their websites, an exception to H*R's policy of not linking to other sites (see the [[FAQ]]).

*When you press exit it always takes you to [[Main Page 7]]: ''Dead as a doornail''.
[[Image:lemcard.PNG|thumb|right|100px|Secure card it is not]]
*The card belongs to [[Lem Sportsinterviews]], a prolific [[Free Country, USA]] author.

*The back of Lem's card reads:
<pre>This is a magnificent card.
Superfied Credit Union is
THE NAME in magnificence.
Of crads, at least. I mean cards.
PIN#:5675</pre>

*The "NEW!" sign has been there for about a year (since the Homestarmy wallpaper was added, shortly after the e-mail [[army|army]]).

* If you type in the wrong PIN it says "Wrong Pin#!! I bet you stole this card!".

* If you push the card all the way to the side, you can't get it back unless you reload the page.

== External Links ==
*Go to the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/homester.html Downloads page]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/downloads.swf View the Flash file] for the Downloads page

[[Category:Downloads]]

Strong Bad

2005-04-28T23:07:48Z

GregHosting: /* Also known as... */ Prinicpal Strong Bad

[[Image:sb1.PNG|thumb|You may not know it yet, but he's the reason you go to the website. It's true!]]

== Biography ==

'''Strong Bad''' is one of the most popular characters. Strong Bad answers [[Strong Bad Email |e-mails]] with a passion, usually every Monday or Tuesday. He will [[Spelling|make fun]] of your grammar, punctuation, and spelling, but doesn't seem to be worried about his own. He's [[Strong Sad]]'s big brother and [[Strong Mad]]'s little brother. His is the dominant personality and he loves to push everyone around: he's often ridiculing Strong Sad, abusing [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]], or prank-calling [[Marzipan]]. He has boxing gloves for hands (that always have square window reflections on them, no-matter where he is), a Mexican wrestling mask for a head, and it is confirmed that the mask IS actually his head in [http://members.shaw.ca/kevinscott/Homestar/page5.html this interview]. His favorite saying is (or was for a time) "holy crap." He hates to be asked "[[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?|Hey, Strong Bad, how do you type with boxing gloves on?]]". He usually does what he does best when he gets an e-mail like that: '''[[DELETED]]!!!''' The blue diamond on his face also gives him the power to mentally open bottles of [[Cold One]]s and even tip Homestar's hat over.

He fancies himself as a criminal mastermind, and totally popular with the ladies, though there is little evidence of this latter claim, and even [[lures & jigs|admits]] at one point he doesn't really know anything about the ladies. He seems to have a grudge against [[The Birds|birds]], as shown in issues of [[Teen Girl Squad]]. He also loves to listen to Peter Frampton, [[Limozeen]] and [[Taranchula]].

*'''Domicile''': [[House of the Brothers Strong]]

*'''Debut''': [[Original Book|"The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest"]]
*[[:Category:Strong Bad Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

== Character Video Transcript ==
''{'''Page Title:''' Get ready for the new!}'' ''{'''Place:''' [[Strongbadia]]}''

''{Strong Bad is seen standing next to several cardboard props, including one of Homestar Runner with a snake wrapped around his head. He is moving some of the props around.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Hold on, I'm not done with the props yet! ''{turns to camera}'' Greetings, party people in the place to be! I am called Strong Bad! Hand over all your moneys in a paper and/or plastic bag! Ladies, form a line to my left for makeouts! Dudes, form a line to my right for high fives! Like I said, I'm Strong Bad. I've been described as cool, awesome, hot, video games, the hottest, and real real hot. Me and my big brother and our The Cheat pretty much run the show around here, as well as serve as a sort of multi-purpose criminal element. Yeah, we got a lot of-

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Ahe-he-hem.

'''STRONG BAD''': What are you doing here?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Well, I was gonna get a high five, but, I see I'm already here. And with a snake on my head!

'''STRONG BAD''': Yeah, that's right. So I'm gonna have to charge you double. You know, since you're both here.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': That sounds reasonable. ''{pronounces it re-ZON-able}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Okay, I only accept gold nuggets. Or maybe Denver Nuggets. ...Whatever you got on ya. Chicken nuggets?

== Fun Facts ==
*"Party peoples in the place to be!" is a reference to an "Ultramagnetic MC" song called "Ego Trippin'", during which before the song, the announcer says, "party peoples in the place to be! Just for you, it's the Ultra-Magnetic MCs!!!!"
*Strong Bad and Strong Mad, and their original role as tag team wrestlers, came from the Nintendo video game "Tag Team Wrestling" created by Data East U.S.A. in 1986.
*Strong Bad's hometown is Parts Unknown.
*Strong Bad has never closed his eyes completely.

== Also known as... ==
[[Image:sbpuppet.PNG|thumb|[[Puppet Stuff|Puppet]] Strong Bad]]
*[[1936 Strong Bad]] ([[1936]])
*[[Stinkoman]] ([[20X6]])
*[[Archibald]] ([[Decemberween]])
*[[Keyboard Strong Bad]] ([[Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]])
*[[Dangeresque (character)| Dangeresque]] ([[Dangeresque|Dangeresque (film series)]])
*[[Little Strong Bad]]
*[[Strong Badman]]
*[[Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad]]
*[[Vector Strong Bad]]
*[[Tragic Clown Dog]]
*[[Wrestleman]]
*Prinicpal ''[sic]'' Strong Bad

=== [[Halloween Costumes]] ===
*[[Wikipedia:Carmen Miranda|Carmen Miranda]]
*[[Wikipedia:Carmen Sandiego|Carmen Sandiego]]
*Homestar as Angus Young
*Ozone (from the movie [[imdb:tt0086998|Breakin']])
*[[Wikipedia:Cesar Romero|Cesar Romero]] as [[Wikipedia:Joker (comics)|The Joker]]

== See Also ==
*[[Strong Bad Evolution]]

== External Links ==
*[[HR:vcr_sb.html|watch Strong Bad's character video]]
*[[HR:vcr_sb.swf|view the flash file for Strong Bad's character video]]
*[mailto:strongbad@homestarrunner.com Email Strong Bad]

{{Characters}}

Cheat Commandos (toon)

2005-04-27T15:27:19Z

GregHosting: /* Real-World References */

[[Image:cheat commandos01.png|thumb|right|220px|Rock Rock On some more!]]

'''Cheat Commandos'''

A new toy series from [[Cheap as Free]]: [[The Cheat Commandos|Cheat Commandos]]! Rock, rock on!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[Coach Z]], [[Silent Rip]], [[Blue Laser Commander]], [[Blue Laser minion]], [[Gunhaver]], [[Crackotage]], [[Firebert]], [[Ripberger]], [[Fightgar]], [[Flashfight]]

'''Places:''' [[The Stick]], Blue Laser HQ (either [[Secret Desert Headquarters]] or [[Blue Laser's Nana's Backyard]])

'''Date:''' May 10, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 1:03

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

== Transcript ==
''{Strong Bad is holding out a toy helicopter and making "thub thub thub" noises, then pulls out the Firebert Cheat Commando Action Figure. On the bottom it says "copyright 1986 Cheap As Free Toys"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as Firebert}'' Time to para...troop behind enemy lines!

''{Strong Bad drops the action figure to the ground, where Homestar Runner has his own Cheat Commando action figure hiding in some tall grass.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{as Silent Rip}'' Surprise, surprise, Firebert!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as Firebert}'' Silent Rip! You snuck up on me!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{as Silent Rip}'' That's what I do best!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as Firebert}'' Time to take out the enemy radar dish!

''{Cut to a bunch of evil The Cheats wearing blue suits and shades (Blue Laser henchmen) in front of [[The Stick|the stick]], which has a pie tin on top of it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{as Silent Rip}'' We're outnumbered! We need Reinforcements!

''{Cut back to Firebert and Silent Rip in the tall grass. Coach Z arrives with his own Cheat Commando. It wears military fatigues and a rocket backpack.}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{as Reinforcements}'' Did somebody say my name?

'''STRONG BAD''' and '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{as Firebert and Silent Rip}'' Reinforcements!

'''COACH Z:''' ''{as Reinforcements}'' Justice Rocket Backpack Rocket Rocket fire!

''{Coach Z presses a button on the back of Reinforcements' rocket backback and a plastic rocket flies up and hits the tin, knocking it over and smashing the Blue Laser henchmen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as Firebert}'' Mission accomplished! Time for some R&R!

''{Cut to the three action figures hanging out with a Barbie-like doll and some Xtra Cold Ones.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Cheat Commandos!

'''STRONG BAD''', '''HOMESTAR RUNNER''', and '''COACH Z:''' Rock, rock on!

''{The Cheat Commandos logo comes up}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Cheat Commandos, only from Cheap as Free Toys! Collect them all! ''{As he lists each character, their toy box shows up on screen}'' Fightgar! Crackotage! Silent Rip! Firebert! Gunhaver! Flashfight! Ripberger! Foxface! Reinforcements! And Reynold! ''{cut to a bunch of vehicles and playsets in the yard}'' And don't forget new Cheat Commandos vehicles and playsets! There's the "Troop Carrier," ''{cut to Troop Carrier}'' the "Troop Transport," ''{cut to Troop Transport}'' and the "Action Figure Storage Truck!" ''{cut to Action Figure Storage Truck}'' Then take the action even further with Reynold's Apartment Extreme Playset!

''{Strong Bad brings Reynold out to his playset and plays as him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Augh, I really need to go grocery shopping! I wish my girlfriend didn't leave me!

''{Strong Bad tosses Reynold into the playset.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' All new Cheat Commandos from Cheap as Free Toys! Cheat Commandos, rock, rock on! And now, tune in weekdays, for Cheat Commando Adventures, on the inside of your TV!

''{Cut to a cartoon with cheesy animation with all of the Cheat Commandos. A G.I. Joe-like song plays in the background. Silent Rip is on.}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' Those loonies are gonna blow up the ocean!

''{Cut to the Blue Laser headquarters. A computer screen in the background reads "OPERATION OCEAN BLOW" and "T-MINUS: GO!!!}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' WE'LL BLOW UP THE OCEAN!

''{Cut to Gunhaver with lasers blasting above his head}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Quick, everyone! To the Action Figure Storage Vehicle!

''{Cut to a canyon, where a whole mess of trucks and Blue Laser vehicles are firing red and blue lasers, respectively, at each other. Cut to Crackotage, Silent Rip, Firebert, Ripberger, Gunhaver and Fightgar running along and then a shot of Fightgar firing his machine gun in all directions}''

'''SPOKESMAN:''' Cheat Commandos is an elite fighting force, sworn to protect the world from the evil forces of Blue Laser!

''{Cut to Blue Laser HQ. Blue Laser is with a Blue Laser commando. The computer screen now reads, "OPERATION DON'T CRUSH OURSELVES" as well as "T-MINUS: TOTAL".}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' CRUSH THE CHEAT COMMANDOS!

''{Cut to Firebert with a TNT detonater. He pushes down the plunger and we hear a boom. It starts a rockslide which covers two Blue Laser Commandos. Cut to Blue Laser HQ. The computer screen reads "OPERATION DON'T CRUSH OURSELVES" and now "FAILED!!"}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' I JUST HATE YOU SO MUCH!

''{Cut to Gunhaver.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Cheat Commandos... ''{zooms out to show him on a pedestal reading, "ROCK, ROCK ON" and some of the commandos surrounding him}'' rock rock on!

''{A jingle is played in the background—"Cheat Commandos, maybe fighting for freedom, and each is sold separately. Cheat Commandos, probably battling evil, buy all our playsets and toys!"}''

'''SPOKESMAN:''' ''{In a nasal voice}'' Weekdays at 4:30.

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on "Rock, Rock On" on the final screen to see all the toys again. Click on each toy to see it alone.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*This commercial serves to introduce all of the Cheat Commandos with the exception of Firebert. He was previously introduced in the Strong Bad email [[army]].

===Remarks===
*This cartoon is loaded with exceptions to the once-solid rule of only mentioning "Cheat" with "The" in front of it. The fact that all the Cheat Commando characters except Firebert can speak normally implies that the writers paid no regard to the source material, as is the case with many cartoons based on toys, comics or video games.
*When the Cheat Commandos are marching in the TV show, some of them walk by twice.
*At the end, Flashfight doesn't have his arm lifted in salute.

===Goofs===
*Gunhaver calls the "Action Figure Storage Truck" by the wrong name. He says "vehicle" instead of "truck".

*When they're walking to the truck you can see some of them more than once.

===Inside References===
*When the commandos are at "R&R", they are next to "Xtra cold ones", a new variation on a [[Cold One]].
*All Cheat Commando toys are [[$11.01]].
*The Cheat Commando action figure packages are the same design as in the emails "[[action figure]]" and "[[army]]".
*Silent 'But Deadly' Rip's voice in the TV show is the same as the guy in the truck show The Cheat is watching in the Strong Bad email [[privileges]].
*The helicopter sound in the beginning is just like the The Cheat Skycam Traffic helicopter sounds from the Strong Bad email [[local news]].
*The words 'Cool Glasses' on Gunhaver's package is a refrence to [[The theme from DANGERESQUE II: This time, it's not Dangeresque I]] on [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]]
*On the toy packages the word commmandos is coloured with the [[Strongbadia]] colours.
*Ripberger is the name of the magistrate in [[Thy Dungeonman 2]].
**Ripberger is also the name of the character voiced by Mark Hamill in the Lucas Arts game "Full Throttle" (although his name is spelled 'Ripburger').
*On Crackotage's package, it says "Museum Quality". This is a reference to the packaged version of Strong Bad's peanut action figure from the Strong Bad Email [[action figure]].
*The caption "Yellow Dog!!" on Firebert's action figure package is a reference to what Homestar says in [[army]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Foxface]], the only female commando, is obviously modeled after the [[Wikipedia:G. I. Joe|GI Joe]] character, Scarlett, whose mantra is "I'm not just one of the 'guys'; I'm better.", according to the [http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/experience/pl/page.filecards/team.Joe/joe_id.64/dn/default.cfm GI Joe website]. According to Foxface's packaging, she is "Not One of The Guys!!"
*[[Blue Laser]]'s plan to blow up the ocean might be a reference to an actual GI Joe episode. In "There's No Place Like Springfield," [[Wikipedia:COBRA Organization|Cobra]] had invented a chemical compound which could convert any body of water—even oceans—into a powerful explosive.
* The fact that the base of all Cheat Commandos are the same (in terms of size, appearance, expression, etc), with only costumes setting them apart, alludes to countless toys in the 80s that were the same way to facilitate mass-production.

== The Cheat Commandos (and their package captions) ==
*[[Gunhaver]]
**Stylin' Coat
**Cool Glasses!
**Has a Gun!
**Probably from Texas!
*[[Firebert]]
**Yellow Dog!!
**Black Hat!
**Not A Good Commando Name!!
**That One Little Guy!!
*[[Silent Rip]]
**But Deadly!!
**Two(2) Pockets!
**Communicates Via That Microphone Attached to His Helmet!
**Same Size As The Rest!!
*[[Crackotage]]
**Action!!
**Museum Quality!
**Master Locksmith, Perhaps!
**Listens To Jazz!!
*[[Fightgar]]
**Not the Most Popular!!
**Red Cloth!
**Probably Has A Raspy Voice!!
**Needs To Shave!!
*[[Reynold]]
**Civilian Contractor!!
**Fake Tie!
**Favorite Drink: Milk!!
**Not A Blackbelt!!
*[[Reinforcements]]
**The One That Coach Z Bought!!
**Sweet Camos!
**Justice Rocket Backpack!!
**Hard to See!!
*[[Foxface]]
**Lady Type!
**Natural haircolor!
**Totally Has It Together!
**Not One of The Guys!!
*[[Ripberger]]
**Stealthy!!
**Black "Gloves!"
**He's Not Wearing Pajamas!
**This One Wears Red!
*[[Flashfight]]
**In Charge of Stuff!!
**Three Medals!
**Almost Sounds Like "Flashlight"
**Five Buttons!

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/cheatcommando.html watch "Cheat Commandos"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/cheatcommando_mx.swf view the Flash file for "Cheat Commandos"]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=14 forum thread re: "Cheat Commandos"]
*Download Cheat Commandos Theme Song [http://www.homestarrunner.com/qod/cc_theme.zip PC] [http://www.homestarrunner.com/qod/cc_theme.sit Mac]

[[Category:Shorts]]
[[Category:Cheat Commandos]]
[[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]]
[[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]]
[[Category:Coach Z Filmography]]
[[Category:Fightgar Filmography]]
[[Category:Firebert Filmography]]
[[Category:Crackotage Filmography]]
[[Category:Gunhaver Filmography]]
[[Category:Reynold Filmography]]
[[Category:Blue Laser Commander Filmography]]

Cheat Commandos (toon)

2005-04-27T15:25:50Z

GregHosting: /* Real-World References */ "all ceath commandos are the same"

[[Image:cheat commandos01.png|thumb|right|220px|Rock Rock On some more!]]

'''Cheat Commandos'''

A new toy series from [[Cheap as Free]]: [[The Cheat Commandos|Cheat Commandos]]! Rock, rock on!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[Coach Z]], [[Silent Rip]], [[Blue Laser Commander]], [[Blue Laser minion]], [[Gunhaver]], [[Crackotage]], [[Firebert]], [[Ripberger]], [[Fightgar]], [[Flashfight]]

'''Places:''' [[The Stick]], Blue Laser HQ (either [[Secret Desert Headquarters]] or [[Blue Laser's Nana's Backyard]])

'''Date:''' May 10, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 1:03

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

== Transcript ==
''{Strong Bad is holding out a toy helicopter and making "thub thub thub" noises, then pulls out the Firebert Cheat Commando Action Figure. On the bottom it says "copyright 1986 Cheap As Free Toys"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as Firebert}'' Time to para...troop behind enemy lines!

''{Strong Bad drops the action figure to the ground, where Homestar Runner has his own Cheat Commando action figure hiding in some tall grass.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{as Silent Rip}'' Surprise, surprise, Firebert!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as Firebert}'' Silent Rip! You snuck up on me!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{as Silent Rip}'' That's what I do best!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as Firebert}'' Time to take out the enemy radar dish!

''{Cut to a bunch of evil The Cheats wearing blue suits and shades (Blue Laser henchmen) in front of [[The Stick|the stick]], which has a pie tin on top of it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{as Silent Rip}'' We're outnumbered! We need Reinforcements!

''{Cut back to Firebert and Silent Rip in the tall grass. Coach Z arrives with his own Cheat Commando. It wears military fatigues and a rocket backpack.}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{as Reinforcements}'' Did somebody say my name?

'''STRONG BAD''' and '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{as Firebert and Silent Rip}'' Reinforcements!

'''COACH Z:''' ''{as Reinforcements}'' Justice Rocket Backpack Rocket Rocket fire!

''{Coach Z presses a button on the back of Reinforcements' rocket backback and a plastic rocket flies up and hits the tin, knocking it over and smashing the Blue Laser henchmen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as Firebert}'' Mission accomplished! Time for some R&R!

''{Cut to the three action figures hanging out with a Barbie-like doll and some Xtra Cold Ones.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Cheat Commandos!

'''STRONG BAD''', '''HOMESTAR RUNNER''', and '''COACH Z:''' Rock, rock on!

''{The Cheat Commandos logo comes up}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Cheat Commandos, only from Cheap as Free Toys! Collect them all! ''{As he lists each character, their toy box shows up on screen}'' Fightgar! Crackotage! Silent Rip! Firebert! Gunhaver! Flashfight! Ripberger! Foxface! Reinforcements! And Reynold! ''{cut to a bunch of vehicles and playsets in the yard}'' And don't forget new Cheat Commandos vehicles and playsets! There's the "Troop Carrier," ''{cut to Troop Carrier}'' the "Troop Transport," ''{cut to Troop Transport}'' and the "Action Figure Storage Truck!" ''{cut to Action Figure Storage Truck}'' Then take the action even further with Reynold's Apartment Extreme Playset!

''{Strong Bad brings Reynold out to his playset and plays as him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Augh, I really need to go grocery shopping! I wish my girlfriend didn't leave me!

''{Strong Bad tosses Reynold into the playset.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' All new Cheat Commandos from Cheap as Free Toys! Cheat Commandos, rock, rock on! And now, tune in weekdays, for Cheat Commando Adventures, on the inside of your TV!

''{Cut to a cartoon with cheesy animation with all of the Cheat Commandos. A G.I. Joe-like song plays in the background. Silent Rip is on.}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' Those loonies are gonna blow up the ocean!

''{Cut to the Blue Laser headquarters. A computer screen in the background reads "OPERATION OCEAN BLOW" and "T-MINUS: GO!!!}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' WE'LL BLOW UP THE OCEAN!

''{Cut to Gunhaver with lasers blasting above his head}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Quick, everyone! To the Action Figure Storage Vehicle!

''{Cut to a canyon, where a whole mess of trucks and Blue Laser vehicles are firing red and blue lasers, respectively, at each other. Cut to Crackotage, Silent Rip, Firebert, Ripberger, Gunhaver and Fightgar running along and then a shot of Fightgar firing his machine gun in all directions}''

'''SPOKESMAN:''' Cheat Commandos is an elite fighting force, sworn to protect the world from the evil forces of Blue Laser!

''{Cut to Blue Laser HQ. Blue Laser is with a Blue Laser commando. The computer screen now reads, "OPERATION DON'T CRUSH OURSELVES" as well as "T-MINUS: TOTAL".}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' CRUSH THE CHEAT COMMANDOS!

''{Cut to Firebert with a TNT detonater. He pushes down the plunger and we hear a boom. It starts a rockslide which covers two Blue Laser Commandos. Cut to Blue Laser HQ. The computer screen reads "OPERATION DON'T CRUSH OURSELVES" and now "FAILED!!"}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' I JUST HATE YOU SO MUCH!

''{Cut to Gunhaver.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Cheat Commandos... ''{zooms out to show him on a pedestal reading, "ROCK, ROCK ON" and some of the commandos surrounding him}'' rock rock on!

''{A jingle is played in the background—"Cheat Commandos, maybe fighting for freedom, and each is sold separately. Cheat Commandos, probably battling evil, buy all our playsets and toys!"}''

'''SPOKESMAN:''' ''{In a nasal voice}'' Weekdays at 4:30.

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on "Rock, Rock On" on the final screen to see all the toys again. Click on each toy to see it alone.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*This commercial serves to introduce all of the Cheat Commandos with the exception of Firebert. He was previously introduced in the Strong Bad email [[army]].

===Remarks===
*This cartoon is loaded with exceptions to the once-solid rule of only mentioning "Cheat" with "The" in front of it. The fact that all the Cheat Commando characters except Firebert can speak normally implies that the writers paid no regard to the source material, as is the case with many cartoons based on toys, comics or video games.
*When the Cheat Commandos are marching in the TV show, some of them walk by twice.
*At the end, Flashfight doesn't have his arm lifted in salute.

===Goofs===
*Gunhaver calls the "Action Figure Storage Truck" by the wrong name. He says "vehicle" instead of "truck".

*When they're walking to the truck you can see some of them more than once.

===Inside References===
*When the commandos are at "R&R", they are next to "Xtra cold ones", a new variation on a [[Cold One]].
*All Cheat Commando toys are [[$11.01]].
*The Cheat Commando action figure packages are the same design as in the emails "[[action figure]]" and "[[army]]".
*Silent 'But Deadly' Rip's voice in the TV show is the same as the guy in the truck show The Cheat is watching in the Strong Bad email [[privileges]].
*The helicopter sound in the beginning is just like the The Cheat Skycam Traffic helicopter sounds from the Strong Bad email [[local news]].
*The words 'Cool Glasses' on Gunhaver's package is a refrence to [[The theme from DANGERESQUE II: This time, it's not Dangeresque I]] on [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]]
*On the toy packages the word commmandos is coloured with the [[Strongbadia]] colours.
*Ripberger is the name of the magistrate in [[Thy Dungeonman 2]].
**Ripberger is also the name of the character voiced by Mark Hamill in the Lucas Arts game "Full Throttle" (although his name is spelled 'Ripburger').
*On Crackotage's package, it says "Museum Quality". This is a reference to the packaged version of Strong Bad's peanut action figure from the Strong Bad Email [[action figure]].
*The caption "Yellow Dog!!" on Firebert's action figure package is a reference to what Homestar says in [[army]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Foxface]], the only female commando, is obviously modeled after the [[Wikipedia:G. I. Joe|GI Joe]] character, Scarlett, whose mantra is "I'm not just one of the 'guys'; I'm better.", according to the [http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/experience/pl/page.filecards/team.Joe/joe_id.64/dn/default.cfm GI Joe website]. According to Foxface's packaging, she is "Not One of The Guys!!"
*[[Blue Laser]]'s plan to blow up the ocean might be a reference to an actual GI Joe episode. In "There's No Place Like Springfield," [[Wikipedia:COBRA Organization|Cobra]] had invented a chemical compound which could convert any body of water—even oceans—into a powerful explosive.
* The fact that the base of all Cheat Commandos are the same (in terms of size, appearance, expression, etc), with only costumes setting them apart, alludes to countless toys in the 80s that were the same way.

== The Cheat Commandos (and their package captions) ==
*[[Gunhaver]]
**Stylin' Coat
**Cool Glasses!
**Has a Gun!
**Probably from Texas!
*[[Firebert]]
**Yellow Dog!!
**Black Hat!
**Not A Good Commando Name!!
**That One Little Guy!!
*[[Silent Rip]]
**But Deadly!!
**Two(2) Pockets!
**Communicates Via That Microphone Attached to His Helmet!
**Same Size As The Rest!!
*[[Crackotage]]
**Action!!
**Museum Quality!
**Master Locksmith, Perhaps!
**Listens To Jazz!!
*[[Fightgar]]
**Not the Most Popular!!
**Red Cloth!
**Probably Has A Raspy Voice!!
**Needs To Shave!!
*[[Reynold]]
**Civilian Contractor!!
**Fake Tie!
**Favorite Drink: Milk!!
**Not A Blackbelt!!
*[[Reinforcements]]
**The One That Coach Z Bought!!
**Sweet Camos!
**Justice Rocket Backpack!!
**Hard to See!!
*[[Foxface]]
**Lady Type!
**Natural haircolor!
**Totally Has It Together!
**Not One of The Guys!!
*[[Ripberger]]
**Stealthy!!
**Black "Gloves!"
**He's Not Wearing Pajamas!
**This One Wears Red!
*[[Flashfight]]
**In Charge of Stuff!!
**Three Medals!
**Almost Sounds Like "Flashlight"
**Five Buttons!

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/cheatcommando.html watch "Cheat Commandos"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/cheatcommando_mx.swf view the Flash file for "Cheat Commandos"]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=14 forum thread re: "Cheat Commandos"]
*Download Cheat Commandos Theme Song [http://www.homestarrunner.com/qod/cc_theme.zip PC] [http://www.homestarrunner.com/qod/cc_theme.sit Mac]

[[Category:Shorts]]
[[Category:Cheat Commandos]]
[[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]]
[[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]]
[[Category:Coach Z Filmography]]
[[Category:Fightgar Filmography]]
[[Category:Firebert Filmography]]
[[Category:Crackotage Filmography]]
[[Category:Gunhaver Filmography]]
[[Category:Reynold Filmography]]
[[Category:Blue Laser Commander Filmography]]

Stinkoman 20X6

2005-04-27T15:08:46Z

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[[Image:stinkogame.png|thumb|Always looking for a fighting or a challenge.]]

''Blue hair, anyone? Stinkoman's always got fightings and challenges to keep him busy. Jump and shoot your way to all ends of Planet K. End Boss feature!!'' --[[Videlectrix]] description
[[Image:stinkobox.png|thumb|Stinkoman 20X6 box art]]

'''Stinkoman 20X6''' is a side-scrolling platformer game which stars [[Stinkoman]]. This game is based on the [[Wikipedia:Mega Man Classic|classic Capcom ''Mega Man'' series]]. It also parodies the poor "Japanese to English" translations (a.k.a. "[[Wikipedia:Engrish|Engrish]]") common to video games of that era, similar to those that appear on the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|current Games Menu]].

[[The Brothers Chaps]] showed it off at [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|their talk at NYU]] before it was released.

== Easter Eggs ==
* Hover your mouse below "Controls" on the main menu to access the Instruction Booklet.
** When you click it, "loading manuél" appears briefly.
* Wait long enough at the title screen to see an [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough#Transcript|intro cinematic]].
* Stay still long enough and Stinkoman will yawn.
** On the Level 4 stages, after yawning Stinkoman will rest against his giant fist.

== Fun Facts ==

=== Trivia ===
* This game is the first official mention of the actual name of Homestar Runner's 20X6 version, 1-Up.
* This is the first time we have seen [[Stinkoman's House]], or any 20X6 character's house, for that matter.
* According to the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[time capsule]], it would seem that Planet K is Earth in the future.
*This is also the first complete platform game that Videlectrix have ever made, as of course Jon Howe programmed it and composed the music, while the Chaps were simply the graphics designers. ([[Super Kingio Brothers]] was meant as a joke and was impossible to play past the first enemy)
* This is the first appearance of Strong Bad's green tongue since [[Super NES]]. In the "Game Over" screen, Stinkoman's green tongue is shown, although it's red or pink all other times you see it in the game.
**Stinkoman's green tongue may be due to the fact that his "stummy hurts".

=== Remarks ===
* The game plays entirely backwards from most NES games - the robot is beaten first, and then you guide stinkoman home.
* There is a hidden power crunch right before the end of the 1st level. Stand at the top of the triangular set of platforms and then jump up to a hidden platform and jump again.
* In the bottom right-hand corner of the PLAY GAME! screen is says "V2.0 EPISODES 1-4"
** It said "V1.X EPISODES 1-3" until April 26, 2005, when the fourth level was added.
* This is the second instance of sprites modeled after 8-bit Megaman, the first instance being with Coach Z in [[Hip Hop Dance]].
* This game used to not feature the regular links at the bottom of the screen to move to other parts of the website. But when Level 4 was added the links were added also.
*Play the .swf version. When you die, right click and do the "play" function. The "More to Come!" screen with Stinkoman with the grey fist will pop up.
**On that screen, do like you did with the "Game Over" screen, and you'll start the level over with 0 lives. If you die, you gain one life, but die. Repeat the process for a lotta lives (or to start on THAT level, including bosses.)
*On Levels 4.1 and 4.2, Stinkoman can actually fall down in certain spots to join 1-Up, but you will eventually lose because there will be no one to press the buttons.

=== Goofs ===

* To get power crunches that are hiding behind enemies without having to kill the enemy, run into the enemy with health to spare. You will take damage, grab the crunch and will be invincible long enough to escape unharmed.
* The manual has Kolkaryu listed under level 2, but Kolkaryu already appears in level 1.
* The manual has Old Sage listed under level 2, but Old Sages already appear in level 1.
* Greggo will not stop or become indestructable unless you are parallel to him.
**Note: this was done on purpose to make it possible to destroy it. fire and then quickly jump or vice versa to kill it.
* Level 3 is called "Dumb Wall" on the level select screen, but it's called "Up 'n' Down" in the instruction manual.
* In Level 1 in the manual, the original version said "face treats" instead of "fave treats."
* If you click the screen after Stinkoman's head appears, but before you hear the "Slash" sound, the music won't play.

=== Glitches ===
* When the game was first released, you could skip (press space or click) the first part of the final movie (any part before the MORE LEVELS TO COME SCENE) to enter stage 3.4. It was the Stlunko Battle arena without Stlunko: a slightly elevated platform above the ground with two Pooru-Poorus on either side. You could continue traveling rightwards into a barren land before reaching an endless cliff.
**This glitch is now fixed. However, if you play the swf you can still play 3.4
* When you run right and jump, you will flip as if you were running left and jumping.
* If you fall long enough and don't touch anything, Stinkoman will stop doing his falling pose and act like he's standing and will even start to yawn. Such a long fall can be found in stage 2.2.
* You can float in mid-air on level 1.1 if you land on the right spot next to the gray pole close to the beginning, or if a Browntant hits you while you're falling against it.
[[Image:stinkoman-glitch.png|thumb|Stinkoman stands on air!]]
* If you jump at the right time at the end of a level, you can do your victory pose in midair.
* If you die with only one life left after defeating a boss, the usual "die" sequence will happen, but then Stinkoman will do his victory dance with no ground beneath him and you will start the next stage with no lives, which will increase by one life and the "Game Over" screen will appear the next time he dies in the next stage.
[[Image:stinkogame slow.png|thumb|Glitch for slow computers.]]
* Sometimes you can start up a new game and it will be nothing but Stinkoman and the background. Since there's no ground, you can only fall and die. This may be linked to older versions of Flash.
** A possible reason that this happens is because earlier versions of Flash may not be able to read the levelData xml files. For more information on these files, please see the talk page.
*Not exactly a glitch, but when Stinkoman is about to yawn, his sprite character moves down one pixel.
*There is a spot in level 2.1 where you can fall between a refrigerator and an adjacent stove, and not be able to jump back up.
[[Image:stinkogame-level22-terrell-glitch.png|thumb|Stuck Terrell on level 2.2]]
*In the beginning of level 2.2, there's a Terrell just behind a refrigerator. It seems that it's possible for the Terrell to get "stuck" just to the right of the fridge. It will continue to hop up and down (without moving horizontally at all), and Stinkoman can pass through the Terrell without becoming injured. It also becomes impossible to kill. I've only been able to reproduce this behavior once, on version 1.3.
*The Terrell on level 2.1 can get stuck too(the one above the second burner).
*In level 1.1, if you don't kill the Jaro by the first wall and instead just go past it and the wall under the second browntant, the Jaro will be jumping in mid-air.
*If you use a seek bar, then it is possible to access level Undefined.Undefined. This level is just a grey hole, which Stinkoman is doomed to fall down. Stinkoman's MANS are always either 8, or not there. Regardless, after he falls down once, the game over screen appears. The music is from the boss levels, and Stinkoman even shouts "Are you asking for a challenge?" as you enter. The items counter is also shown, as it is in level 3.1. It even has the "Try level" screen!
*In level 4.2, if a and s are pressed at the same time as you're falling into the level from the left, Stinkoman will float instead of walk.
*In Episode 4, when Stinkoman is facing to the right, his giant fist powerup is a left hand, but when he turns around the fingers are still facing the player so it turns into a right hand. This "sprite mirroring" is common in older games to conserve memory. A notable exception is Metroid, in which Samus is always right handed.

=== Inside References ===
* "Check out my new gameplay!" is a reference to Stinkoman's quote "Check out my new cosplay!" in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
* The nuggets in Level 3.1 are a reference to [[Strong Bad]]'s Character Video.
* Level 3.2 reveals that Stinkoman hates apples, just as Strong Bad does in [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]]
* The health-restoring pills are a reference to "power crunches" from the Strong Bad E-Mail [[time capsule]].
**They are also a reference to the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]], where you can get similar capsules to change your ship.
* Grundy's illustration in the manual shows him running in a manner similar to [[Homestar Runner]].
* Stlunko, the level 3 boss, bears a striking resemblance to the [[Visor Robot]].
*The Rose Blake's description in the manual as a "'Lectric burner" is a reference to the email [[extra plug]], where Strong Bad gets '[[Lectric Boots]].
*"Blast em up Dan!" is a reference to [[Dan]] in [[Peasant's Quest]], [[TROGDOR!]] and [[sibbie]]. .
*The sentence in the manual, "Falling from the skies and bove", is a reference to [[That Time of Year]].
*The chickens in Level 2 blow up like the ducks in [[Duck Guardian]] after being hit with the hatch ray.
*1-Up Saying "I'm going this way!" is a reference to [[Meet Marshie]]

=== Real-World References ===
*There are many references to the ''Mega Man'' game series:
** The sprites used for Stinkoman are patterned after 8-bit ''Mega Man'' sprites.
** In fact, the poses of the white silhouette in the logo are taken directly from the NES ''Mega Man'' series.
** The sounds of the text appearing in the cinematics are also the same as in ''Mega Man''.
***The chime noise for the main menu is taken from the first ''Mega Man X'' game.
** In ''Mega Man V'', there is a chicken robot similar to the chickens encountered in level 2.
** When Stinkoman says that the large gray fist could be a new powerup and takes off with it, this is an obvious reference to Mega Man taking the power of defeated bosses.
** At the start of side-scrolling stage the little theme played is very similar to the old ''Mega Man'' starting theme. In fact, the whole soundtrack was probably meant to sound like ''Mega Man'' game music.
** Stinkoman being unable to clear the wall using his normal jump is also a joke from ''Mega Man''.
** When all three characters flash onto the screen during the intro, that is also a ''Mega Man'' reference, where in one of the arcade games (namely ''Mega Man: The Power Battles'') Mega Man, Proto Man, and Bass would flash onto the screen in a similar way.
**The spikes that can kill Stinkoman instantly (Old Sage) are a reference to similar spikes which were placed under moving platforms in Mega Man games and which would also kill Mega Man instantly.
** The dropping platforms are a reference to the original ''Mega Man'', in which similar platforms were found in Guts Man's stage.
** Only three of Stinkoman's flying fists can be on the screen at the same time. In the ''Mega Man'' series, Mega Man's bullets also suffer from the same drawbacks.
***Early sprite-based video games suffered this fate as well. Limiting the number of sprites on screen prevented slow down.
* Right after Tampo blows up in the cinematic, you can hear the same sound that is played in Metroid when Samus phases in.
* Stlunko, 404 is a reference to the 404 error that browsers give when a webpage cannot be found.
* Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
** ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
** ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
** ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
** ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.
* Hold B is a reference to ''Super Mario Bros'' and a few other Nintendo games in which if you held down B, you would run faster. In this game, holding S (which is like a B button) allows you to rapid fire.
* Stinkoman doing a forward flip may be a reference to the ''Metroid'' series, where Samus does very similar flips.
**Its likely just a reference to the 20X6 Main Page, in which Stinkoman does a forward flip.
* The fading blue boxes around Stinkoman's face on the title screen are a reference to large NES sprites, which sometimes had a similar problem.
* The first boss, Tampo, may be a reference to the final boss of ''Star Fox 64'', which was the giant, floating brain of the enemy, which had the same weak point (medulla).
* Stinkoman's becoming bored when idle is an old gag first found in ''[[Wikipedia:Sonic the Hedgehog (Genesis)|Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' and emulated in countless other titles.
* The phrase "Table the Label" is from a hilariously bad motivational video hosted by Mr. T called "[http://www.agonybooth.com/mr_t/ Be Somebody or be Somebody's Fool!]"
* The manual mentioning this game has no "weepy princess crap" is a reference to the Super Mario series, the Legend of Zelda series, and a few other games where you had to rescue a helpless princess.
** Likewise, Pan Pan being kidnapped references the countless games which featured a random character being kidnapped, such as in Donkey Kong Country 2 or 3.
* The bulky, muscular Stinkoman on the box art is probably a reference to the first and second ''Mega Man'' games, where the original American version of the game's box art had a big, muscular Mega Man that looked nothing like the character in the game.
*The pose with the large fist is a direct reference to the old NES game Battletoads.
*The fact that P's are a collectable item in level 3.2 may be a reference to Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, in which at one point, Mario needs to find the missing letter P in order to get his name and body back from a foe named Doopliss.
**Or, likely, the vast number of seemingly unexplainable appearances of letter P in NES-era games. Ranging from P-blocks, P-wings, P-gauges etc. in ''Super Mario Bros. 3'', to the Arm Cannon/Mega Buster character designation in ''Mega Man 2''.
**Jaro's explosion appears to be modeled after many of the character explosions in ''Rad Gravity'' for the [[Wikipedia:Nintendo Entertainment System|NES]].
* Lundsford may be a reference to the symbol and/or mascot of [http://www.georgianaturalgas.com/ Georgia Natural Gas]. Billboards featuring this symbol and character can be seen in many places in the Atlanta area where The Brothers Chaps live.
* Levels 3.1 and 3.2 of the game may include a reference to the old Sega Genesis game "Castle of Illusion" - you collected varying items throughout the different levels, such as Apples or Marbles, and they were shown in your status bar exactly the same way as in this game: The word "Items", a picture of the items, the multiplication sign, and how many of the item you had. In fact, The whole statusbar copies the one from Castle of Illusion almost exactly, with the current level replacing score on the bar.
*Saargtsson is most likely a reference to Moldorm from Zelda, who was almost exactly the same.

== See Also ==
*[[Stinkomanual]]
*[[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies]]
*[[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough]]

== External Links ==
* [[HR:stinkogame/v2/stinkogame.html|Play Stinkoman 20X6]]
* [[HR:stinkogame/v2/stinkogame.swf|Play the Game (flash file)]]
* [[HR:stinkogame/v2/objectLibrary.swf|See the Stinkoman 20X6 object library]]
[[Category:Stinkoman 20X6]]

Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2

2005-04-27T15:00:06Z

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[[Image:thnikkafied-machine.png|thumb|Your Marzipan machine's been Thnikkafied!]]
The Thnikkaman starts a band, Strong Bad's prank call ends in song, and Homestar threatens himself again.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Bubs}}/[[Thnikkaman]], {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Marzipan's House]]

'''Date:''' April 26, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:17

'''Page Title:''' Marzipan's Answering Machine

==Transcript==
=== Marzipan's Greeting: ===
'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah, yeah. Leave a message.

=== Message 5: ===
'''UNSEEN CHORUS:''' ''{singing}'' You Got a Call from the Thnikkaman!! ''{These words float across the screen.} ''

'''THNIKKAMAN:''' Hey, Marzipan. It's the Thnikkaman! Your Marzipan machine's been Thinkkafied! I was just calling up to see if you wanted to join my Thnikkaband! I got instruments, drums, cymbals, drums. Now all I need is some Thnikkagirls to dance around in some go-go boots. All you gotta do is shimmy-shake a little bit to the left, and, if time permits, shimmy-shake a little bit to the right! Ooh, and in regards to your question, "can you have some?", yeah. Shut up, kid!

'''UNSEEN CHORUS:''' ''{singing}'' Here hang-ups the Thnikkaman! ''{These words float across the screen.}''

'''THNIKKAMAN:''' Errrrrrrrooom... click!

=== Message 4: ===

'''STRONG BAD:''' Marzipan, look, this is Goatface. I have a goat for a face. Like, not that I have a goat's head for a face, or that my head is a goat's head, like my face is an entire goat. So, anyways, I was calling you up 'cause I wanted to join your Goatface Club. Since you've got quite a goat face yourself, I figured you'd be the go-to guy, or gal. It's hard to tell with that goat face of yours. Anyways, my number is ''{imitates a goat}'' eeeeeh-uhhh! So gimme a call back. We can compare goat faces, though I can't imagine that yours — yours is pret — you're ugly. Marzipan, this is Strong Bad, and you're ugly.

=== Message 3: ===

'''MARZIPAN:''' Hi, Marzipan, this is not Marzipan, just calling to leave you a mean prank call so that you don't get your feelings hurt when other people prank call you. Um, here's the prank: we all know that that hair color is not your true color.

=== Message 2: ===

''{Every time Strong Bad says a phrase, he imitates a different character.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, Marzipan! Marzipan! Marzipan! Marzipan! Marzipan! This is all your friends! All your friends! All your friends! All of your friends! Calling you! Calling you! We're calling! We're all calling you! Calling you! To tell you we hate you! Tell you we hate you! Tell you we hate you! Tell you we hate you! And you owe us some money! You owe us some money! Yeah, you owe me ten bucks! Yeah, you owe me twelve dollars! You owe me twelve dollars! You owe us some money! And you said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! ''{a beat begins in time to Strong Bad's repetition}'' You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! ''{a drum beat begins}'' You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! You said you'd bake us a cake! ''{cymbal crash}''

=== Message 1: ===

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{angry}'' Oh, hello, Marzipan! You've got the H-star, you got the H-star-R, and boy, have I got a bee in my bonnet! So, what, I gotta hear from Strong Bad now that you've got an "in" at the Goatface Club? Were you even going to mention this to old Boyfriend Dan? That's — that's me. Boyfriend Dan. You know good and well that I've dreamt of being in a Goatface Club ever since I was a moderately sized baby. And you said you'd bake us a cake! And who's this Boyfriend Dan I keep hearing about?! Well, you tell him to watch his back, 'cause the old Goatface Killer is on the loose! Um, that's me. Now I'm the Goatface Killer.

== Easter Eggs==
*Click on the tape holder during Strong Bad's ranting to see what a "Goatface" really isn't.
**First it's a human body with a goat face.
**Click on it to cross it out with the message: "no!"
**Click again to see another example of what a goatface isn't: a person with goat's head, neck and front legs sticking out of his head.
**Click on it to cross it out with the message: "nope!"
**Click a fifth time to see a true goatface: a person with an entire goat for a face, with the neck connected to the middle of the goat's body.
**Click the goatface again to see its majesty, with the message: "genius!"
*Click the tape holder at the end of Homestar's message to see a milk carton with the following info on it:
<pre>BOYFRIEND DAN
BEWARE!!
{a silhouette of Homestar with goat horns and a beard}
"GOATFACE KILLA"
IS ON THE LOOSE!

LAST SEEN AS A
MODERATELY
SIZED BABY</pre>

== Fun Facts ==
===Remarks===
*This answering machine has the old HTML links at the bottom of the page instead of the new flash file (notice the font difference).
* Strong Bad missed a perfect opportunity to take advantage of his ability to overlap his voice in the fourth message.

===Inside References===
*The "goat" theme of the messages could have something to do with the old Yearbook Characters page, which claimed that Marzipan was a goat herder.
*Homestar's message contains yet another reference to [[Dan]].
*The Thnikkaman was first introduced in the Strong Bad E-mail [[monument]].
*The milk carton with the silhouette ad was last seen in [[kind of cool]], when Strong Bad was looking for Senor Cardgage.
===Real-World References===
*Homestar's mention of a "Goatface Killer" is probably a reference to Ghostface Killah, a member of Coach Z's favorite rap group, the [[Wikipedia:Wu-Tang Clan|Wu-Tang Clan]].
*Homestar's mention of a "bee in my bonnet" may have been a reference to the hit They Might Be Giants song "Birdhouse in your Soul". This is probably true as TBC are close friends with They Might Be Giants.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:answer12.html|watch "Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2"]]
*[[HR:answer12.swf|view the flash file for "Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2"]]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=2965 forum thread for "Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2"]

{{Marzipan's Answering Machine}}

extra plug

2005-04-26T18:33:52Z

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[[Image:sbemail116.PNG|thumb|Nice shoes.]]

'''Strong Bad Email #116'''

[[Strong Bad]] shows us his awesome new [[Lectric Boots| 'Lectric Boots]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Mad]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The King of Town]] (Easter Egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Club Technochocolate]] (Easter egg), [[King of Town's Castle]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' October 11, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 3:23

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Ow ow ow... ow ow oww... ow ow owww... email...

''{reading}''

<pre>Dear S to the B,
I noticed that you always have an
extra plug socket open under your
desk. Isn't there something cool you
could plug in there?
Simcity,
Justin Corcoran, MASS</pre>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Awww, I HATE getting these mass emails! ''{typing}'' REMOVE ME! UNSUBSCRIBE! TAKE ME OFFA LIST! ''{clears screen, continues typing}'' Well HUGE to the DORK, your timing couldn't be more perfect, as I just received my new electric boots in the mail today. Check out these features.

''{Strong Bad stops typing and produces a box of 'Lectric Boots}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No fewer than 8 lights flashing at any given time! Whisper quiet, and, uh, check out that guy dancing with that hot girl. That's gonna be ME at the club ''{he pronounces it "clüb", a mix between "club" and "cloob"}'', and the hot girl will be The Cheat! Er, I mean, an actual hot girl! ''{speaking as the guy on the box}'' Hey there, fruit pie... the magician. Wanna dance? ''{speaking as the girl on the box}'' Yes, I would like to be your girlfriend based solely on your awesome boots.

''{Strong Bad sets the box on his desk. We pull back and see that Strong Bad is wearing the electric boots, with The Cheat under the desk near the empty socket}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Alright, The Cheat, let's do this.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{cheat noises that sound like "OK!"}''

''{The Cheat plugs in the boots, causing the lights on the boots to come on and a loud, vacuum-cleaner-like humming to start. The Cheat puts his hands over his ears.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{shouting over the noise}'' Whoa! Check out those lights! They're flashing!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Questioning cheat noises, shouting}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{shouting}'' I said check out the flashing lights!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Questioning cheat noises, shouting}''

''{The Cheat leaves the room}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{shouting}'' Hey, where are you going? Wait up!

''{Strong Bad gets up and walks to follow The Cheat, until he reaches the end of his cord}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{shouting}'' I'm gonna need an extension cord!

''{Strong Bad sits back in front of the Compy 386}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing, shouting}'' Attention all interested ladies: Please have electrical sockets installed every 5 feet before inviting me over to your apartment or dormroom. So, I guess I'm awex- ''{The power goes out}'' SOME IS THE REASON WHY - ''{typing, despite power outage}'' Whoa. I guess these boots suck up a lot of energy. Maybe that's what "solid state" means. I suppose I can stop typing now. ''{stops typing}'' I'm gonna need some help finishing this email without power.

''{Cut to the darkened living room. Strong Mad, Strong Sad, and The Cheat appear to be watching TV, and are laughing. Strong Bad walks in}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What are you guys watching?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Shhh!

''{Cut to the TV screen, where a picture of Andy Griffith's head is taped on. Strong Mad, Strong Sad, and The Cheat start laughing again}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{offscreen}'' You guys are watching a picture of Andy Griffith's head taped to a TV?

''{Cut back to the view of the couch. Homestar walks in}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, has it started yet? I brought some popcorn! ''{produces a popcorn bag containing a bottle of Mountain Dew}'' DANG, Strong Bad, I like your boots.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look, I'm going to need some help finishing up this email. Will somebody give me a hand?

'''STRONG MAD:''' WHEN THIS IS OVER!

''{Cut back to the Compy 386. We can hear that the boots are running again. Strong Sad is holding up a piece of black paper in front of the monitor, which he lowers to reveal Strong Bad's "typed" text as Strong Bad is typing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing, shouting}'' well, whatever your name was, the boots are back in action, and so am I. I can already tell they're gonna be a hit when I wear them to da club this weekend. the ladies can't resist flashing lights and an obnoxiously loud hum! ''{stops typing}'' Alright, Strong Mad! Go!

''{The Paper comes down with Strong Mad producing the sound effect. Cut back from Strong Bad's desk to see Strong Mad holding The Cheat upside-down over the Compy 386, with The Cheat holding the paper in his hands. Strong Sad is holding the black piece of paper he used to obscure Strong Bad's text, and Homestar is wrapped in an extension cord leading from Strong Bad's boots elsewhere. A few seconds later, Strong Bad starts speaking}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Way to go, guys! I doubt ANYONE could tell the difference between a regular email and this unplugged email! Now keep holdin' it! Nobody move! Gonna be a long week!

''{A few more seconds later, Homestar starts talking}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{rhythmically}'' I really got. I really gotta pee. I really got. I really gotta pee pee. I really got. I really gotta pee.

''{Strong Sad joins Homestar}''

'''STRONG SAD AND HOMESTAR:''' ''{rhythmically}'' I really got. I really gotta pee pee. I really got. I really gotta pee. I really got. I really gotta pee pee.

'''STRONG BAD:''' That is a disgusting song.

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on either of Strong Bad's boots to see Strong Bad and The Cheat at Club Technochocolate.
:''{Strong Bad and The Cheat are at Club Technochocolate. Strong Bad dancing wearing his 'lectric boots near a plugin. The boots are making their usual loud humming noise. The Cheat is standing nearby plugging his ears with a couple glowsticks}''
:'''MUSIC:''' ''{background}'' All is on! Feel it, feel it, feel it, feel it! All is o-
:''{the power goes out}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Alright, The Cheat! Let's keep this party movin'! On to the next club!
:''{Strong Bad unplugs his boots and walks offscreen}''
*Click on the extension cord to see what the 'lectric boots ARE plugged into.
:''{Cut to The King of Town's castle. An extension cord can be seen running from a sparking plugin out a window and into the distance. A sign has been placed near the plugin reading "auxilliary food-related thing. DO NOT UNPLUG!" The King of Town is standing nearby holding a piece of paper}''
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' This electricity bill is PRETENDOUS!

== Fun Facts ==
===Remarks===
*Solid state refers to transistor electronics, vs. old vacuum tube technology. In the 50's through perhaps the mid-70's (which seems like it might be the period from which the boots came), manufacturers would stamp "solid state" on their various devices, signifying that they were state-of-the-art.
*In the [[Club Technochocolate|Technochocolate]] easter egg, The Cheat appears to be plugging his ears with the glowsticks, which can give us a rough estimated location of his ears beneath all that fur.
*Even though only one of Strong Bad's boots is plugged in, both boots work.
*During the unplugged email, there are burn marks around the free socket under his desk... it seems the boots "fused" when the plug actually melted and/or caught on fire.
*When Strong Bad holds up the box in which his shoes came, his boxing glove covers the contrast knobs, but you can still change his screen contrast through his gloves.
*Although there are black marks around the extra plug under Strong Bad's desk after he blows the power, there are no marks around the plug at [[Club Technochocolate|Technochocolate]] when he blows the power there.
*At the end, when the gang are maintaining the "unplugged e-mail", Strong Bad remarks that it's going to be a long week. It turned out to be four weeks until the next email, [[montage]].
*Viewing the Flash file shows Homestar sitting down fully on the floor, but he doesn't seem to have a butt, as his legs bend up into his shirt.
*The King of Town's bill has the title 'Lectric bill, spelled just like Strong Bad's 'Lectric boots.

===Goofs===
*Strong Bad's boots stop making noises in the end even though the lights are flashing.

===Glitches===
*The contrast knob on the [[Compy 386|Compy]] stops working when Strong Bad addresses "all interested ladies" even though the power is still on.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad started to spell the word "awexome" before the power went out, a reference to the email [[monster truck]] and [[Awexome Cross]].
*"Dang Strong Bad, I like your boots!" is a reference to the cartoon [[New Boots]].
**Note that Homestar's, The Cheat's, and Strong Bad's relative positions in these two toons remain the same.
*The King of Town's statement about his electric bill being "[[Pretendous|pretendous]]" is a reference to the [[Fan Costume Commentary|Strong Bad Fan Costume Commentary.]]
*The "All Is On" song in [[Club Technochocolate]] is from an easter egg in [[for kids]].
*[[Club Technochocolate]] is a reference to the email [[monument]].
*The sound effect of Strong Bad's boots when he is walking is identical to that of [[Stinkoman]]'s boots in [[Under Construction]].
*Homestar singing he has to pee may be a reference to [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]] and/or [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].
*The TV that had [[Wikipedia:Andy Griffith|Andy Griffith]]'s head taped to it was the TV from the old toons menu.
*The [[Mountain Dew]] in Homestar's popcorn bucket is probably a reference to the email [[anything]]. It may also be a play on words (pop in a popcorn bucket).
*The guy on the box has a passing resemblance to [[Senor Cardgage]], specifically the combover, the beard, and the potbelly.
*The Cheat's glowsticks are references to the emails [[techno]] and [[monument]].

===Real-World References===
*The way Strong Bad pronounces 'da club' throughout the e-mail is a reference to 50 Cent's hit single 'In Da Club', where he rounds off the 'u' in the word 'club' the same way.
*The author of this email signed it with ''[[Wikipedia:SimCity | SimCity]]'', which is a popular city-making game series by [[Wikipedia:Maxis|Maxis]] and [[Wikipedia:Electronic_Arts|EA Games]].
*[http://theimaginaryworld.com/pix401.jpg "Fruit Pie the Magician"] is a reference to the mascot for Hostess brand fruit pies.
*The 'lectric Boots may have been inspired by the song [http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/eltonjohn/bennieandthejets.html Bennie and the Jets] by Sir [[Wikipedia:Elton John|Elton John]].
*"S to the B" is an example of a common hip-hop/rap method of joining two names, words, or letters.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail116.html|watch "extra plug"]]
*[[HR:sbemail116.swf|view the Flash file for "extra plug"]]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1026 forum thread re: "extra plug"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:The Cheat Filmography]][[Category:Strong Mad Filmography]][[Category:Strong Sad Filmography]][[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]][[Category:The King of Town Filmography]]

Talk:Super NES

2005-04-25T19:24:04Z

GregHosting: /* When was it made? */

== When was it made? ==
I wonder how long before other toons was this made? And was it made by japanese kids? It has lots of japanese text (and of course singing :)
[[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 21:41, 25 Sep 2004 (MST)

I'm pretty sure that this was made, or at least directed, by TBC.

I think TBC themselves have said in interviews that this cartoon was made somewhere around 1998. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 12:54, 6 Oct 2004 (MST)

:At the end of the toon it says "Copyright 1996 and 2000", so I think it's safe to assume it was made in 1996 (and turned into a QuickTime video in 2000).

:The Japanese text is there because Mario Paint has Japanese text. I remember that I did the same thing... "oooh japanese text, gotta put some of that in there!"

[[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]]

== Translation ==

The translation seems to have been lost during the server change as part of our [[HRWiki talk:Projects#.3F replacing non-regular characters|? replacing non-regular characters]] problem. Anybody out there know it? User:68.199.35.139 was the one who fixed it last...[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:40, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Vocals ==

Just curious, does anybody know who provided the vocals for this song? Have TBC ever said?

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2005-04-25T03:22:35Z

GregHosting: /* Strong Sad, Charles Barkley, and Ruben Studdard...long lost triplets? */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[best thing]]===

====limozeen====
Limozeen: But they're in space is almost a direct reference to the flopped saturday morning show Josie and the Pussy Cats in space.

*'''Definite Rewrite.''' Try again. It IS a direct reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 01:52, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Should not be on the STUFF page.''' Another version of this fact already went through the STUFF process and can be seen under the "Explanations" heading in [[best thing]]. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:02, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''CONCUR'D''' Once and only once applies to STUFF as well. Sorry. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:54, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted
on two parallel wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut it out, you."</pre>

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral'''So what your saying if 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
====Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F====
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

*'''Decline.''' He could be saying something like "freakin' crap". --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 11:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
** '''Second''' ----

*'''Wait a minute...''' Wasn't this already STUFF'D? Or am I imagining things? Either way, I decline. I'm pretty sure everyone could guess what Strong Bad was going to type. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 12:36, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seems pretty out of character (at least in hindsight) for both SB and TBC -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it was deliberate. Remember when Strong Bad shouted, "Screw all y'all!" in [[sb_email 22]]? I wouldn't call it out of character. However, TBC seems to have toned down the just barely borderline vulgar humor since the old emails in order to make the site more kid-friendly. That's just my opinion though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:50, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I always understood it as a humorous almost-usage of the F-word. This kind of gag is pretty common, even occurring in G-rated movies such as ''The Lion King'' and ''Finding Nemo''. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Heh, yeah, I know what you're talking about. "Why do I always have to save your AHHHHHHH!" "Don't you all realize we're swimming in our own--" "Shhh!" --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 1:10, 21 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' TBC have a no swearing policy. Boarderline swears are just jokes. Plus this is a speculatory "fact". The "f" could have been for anything. And "presumably" is just another way to say "may be". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Probably right, but who needs a fun fact to tell them this? It's as useful as saying, "When strongbad does this and this, he's making fun of the grammar in the e-mail."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I agree with Upset Your Balance et al. in that I think it was deliberate, but isn't it pretty obvious? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:35, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Everything is as it was. Not sure why this was removed after just one day of voting. '''NOTE:''' please allow 2 weeks of voting before declaring a verdict! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Strong Bad almost said the F-word, everyone who knows about the F-word can figure that out we don't need something to tell us about it. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.''' I think what The_Pardack said pretty much summed it up. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 03:13, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It is true that anyone can figure out, but TBC don't usually curse. I think this is the closest we're going to get. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:10, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nope....''' I don't think this needs to be a fun fact at all... i think it was just a joke for the email, not a fact or anything.
*'''DECLINE'd!!!''' Not because he didn't...he obviously did, but then, that's why. It's really obvious and doesn't need to be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:27, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.
*'''Decline''' I have trouble saying why, but I know there's something wrong with this. Be it that it's part of the haiku, or something else, I don't think this really needs to be stated. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''So cool a Decline, I thought I would Second it.''' This is a parody of the [http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_KLEZ.H&VSect=T Klez] email virus that used the infamous subject line "so cool a flash,enjoy it". It's not meant to imply that Strong Bad has actually read the email beforehand. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 08:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*** That's it. Thanks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 08:11, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Third.''' It's just part of the song. -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:26, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**''''Eh, Decline!''' This is seriously a Klez spoof. I even received a Klez email, and it gave my old computer a virus. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:05, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''So cool a decline, I thought I would THIRD it''' even! [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:29, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Oolong's Namesake====
Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for [[Combolations]] in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or [[Wikipedia:Oolong (rabbit)|Oolong the rabbit]], whose owner is Japanese.
*'''Decline.''' I figure the reference is most likely to Oolong, the traditional Chinese tea enjoyed throughout Asia. The characters mentioned here are named after the tea. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 07:49, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Always decline TTATO facts! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I would second this if I knew what TTATO stood for. (Second is NOT my vote) [[User:Fizz123|Stave it off, Fizz123, and now you can count to three.]]
**'''Decline.''' TTATO actually is supposed to be spelled TTATOT, and stands for "This, That, And That Other Thing." -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:34, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Sheds a tear''' My own little abbreviation is growing up. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:18, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*May be '''declined''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''42'd''' -- Yeah, I always suspected it refered to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oolon_Colluphid Oolon Colophid], [[Leomard Sportsinterviews|Lem Sportsinterviews']] counterpart from HHTG, so we must therefor all be wrong simultaneously :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 22:38, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====MikeMike And Matt Rock====

The credits for Mike Rock and MattMatt are references to [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt Chapman]].

*DUHHHH! DECLINANATED! [[User:Fizz123|Anonymous Contributor]]
*'''Completely Decline.''' No, seriously. Like, nobody else vote on this. -Walking Armless
*'''Comment.''' Why wasn't this just deleted? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 1:13 19 Apr 2005
*'''Accept.''' Never caught that. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:54, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*This is either something blatantly obvious or a supreme stretch. Since TBC aren't commenting either way, it's not worth the dispute. Make up your own damn mind, but don't write it down like it's the truth. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:21, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Calm yourself, Dasrik. No need for such a rant. Anyway, I say '''Accept.''' And, dasrik, it's not blatingly obvious OR a surpreme stretch. It's enough so that someone might not know it, yet not completely out-of range...exaclty the kind of thing a Fun Fact needs.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:35, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Best Decline I ever spent''' I think it is just too obvious and isn't exactly a fun fact. --[[user: lappy 486]]

===[[rampage]]===

====Jammin'====
"Number one jam" is possibly a reference to [[time capsule]].

*'''Decline.''' It's a common phrase. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 11:07, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's also mentioned in [[Everybody to the Limit]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Hmmm, could it be classified as a running gag? --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 03:16, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Possibly Decline''' grumble grumble [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:21, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.
*'''Not even'''. The first time, as far as I know, was in [[labor day]]. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:23, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Decline.''' Coach Z just kinda barely chuckles in labor day. Are there any other examples of him, well ... actually laughing ... hard? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:12, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Does it matter? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' Well, I remember thinking "Gosh, I dunno if I've ever heard Coach Z laugh before." But that's just me ... -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 04:20, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Welll....''' It says "heard" him laugh, and we don't exactly HEAR the laugh in Labor Dabor... --[[user: lappy 486]]

===[[The Li'l Brudder Show]]===

====Ugly Animation====
The animation resembles the work of [[Wikipedia:Klasky Csupo|Klasky Csupo]] (most famous for [[Wikipedia:Rugrats|Rugrats]]), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

*'''Decline''' Wha...? Obviously not! Li'l Brudder is ''supposed'' to look raggety- he was made to make someone cry! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime''' Li'l Brudder pretty much looks the way Strong Bad drew him originally. He looks odd in the skydiving sequence 'cuz he's prolly falling at near terminal velocity! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:44, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Not So Li'l Decline''' Li'l Brudder's the only one that may look "ugly" due to the addition of visible black hairs all over his body and discolored teeth. Tendafoot looks exactly like the two-legged elephant Strong Bad drew, and the Legless Parrot and Human-Nosed Possum look like animated copies of the real animal, just with the aforementioned maladies. I think TBC made Li'l Brudder "uglier" to draw more pity for everybody's favorite go-getter. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 17:01, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Here Comes li'l Second''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Withdrawn''' I posted this originally, and on closer inspection I agree that Li'l Brudder looks more like Courage the Cowardly Dog than a K C creation. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Late 360 Shove-It To Decline'd!''' I think its unintentional, but kinda true about the "ugly, but cute" part. In spite of that, I also '''Second''' all of the above. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' He looks more like something John Kricfalusi (of the Ren and Stimpy fame) would create. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''No he doesn't.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 12:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Restored discussion. Please wait 2 weeks before declaring a verdict! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I don't see any resemblance. -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:29, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second?''' Li'l Brudder skydiving ''sort of'' looks like the animation of Klasky-Csupo, but that's just it. Never reminded me of anything the first time I watched it. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Things are lookin' up!====

The title of the page and Lil' Brudder's line at the end of the toon "Things are lookin' up!" is probably a reference to the Gershwin song of the same name. (Incidentally, there's also a line in the song that says "I'm happy as a pup.")[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Comment.''' Here's a [http://www.fredastaire.net/music/lyrics/thingsarelookingup.htm link] to the lyrics. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Yea, it's the line "Oh I'm happy as a pup since love looked up at me." But...not that Lil' Brudder's in love or anything...[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Close, but Decline.''' It's just an optimism from someone who has no reason to be optimistic. I doubt that the song popularized the phrase, even if it's old. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:50, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's De Cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:24, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE'D''' It's a far stretch.--[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]] 11:26, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The only way LB can see a thing as he scrapes along is to ... well ... look up! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:18, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' There was a drawing of Lil' Brudder in the Weekly Sketchbook entitled "things are looking up!" It's more likely that they'd be referencing other content on their site. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:57, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Wait, wasn't that quote also mentioned in [[crying]]? Oh, guess not. DE CLINE!!! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 22:48, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Stretch... Stretch... Stretch... Decline.''' -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:27, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)
*'''Decline''' and, by the way, if this WAS accurate, there would be nothing "ironic" about the "happy as a pup" line, unless you use the Alanis definition of irony (ie. "any funny coincidence.") --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:50, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's true...changed it to "Incidentally."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:02, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' I think this could be a reference. It is a good fact!! --[[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[impression]]===
====What year is it?====

The form for the penmanship contest says 2004 Sectional Finals, however, the sign for the contest said 2003.

'''VERDICT:''' This goof has been accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:impression]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 16 Apr 2005
*'''ATTENTION GafAddict and Upset Your Balance and any other VERIDCTers''' - The standard voting period is 2 weeks. Please do not close any items that are newer than that that. In other words, check the first vote, if it's less than two weeks old, DON'T TOUCH IT! Also, if you're going to VERDICT an item, please sign your name and date as though you were signing a vote (two hyphens and four tildes)
**'''I think this one is a special case.''' It was STUFFed based on a false assumption. But I didn't VERDICT it, so... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***GafAddict did a few a day or so ago, and I've seen others get VERDICT'd well before the two week period. Also, whoever does it needs to sign it, so I figured I'd post it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*I have added my name and the date to the verdict. (Yes, it was me.) I'm not sure of the exact time of the verdicting though. And as Jay said, because it was STUFFed based on a false assumption, I put it back and verdicted it early. For other STUFF'd items, the VERDICT shall wait two weeks. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[dangeresque 3]]===
====Constantinople?====

The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.
*'''Decline.''' Istanbul is often used in the movies as a dangerous and exotic locale. Any resemblance to a TMBG song, living or dead, is purely coincidental. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's also [[Wikipedia:Istanbul|a real place]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Today's forecast is '''total crap.''' When will you people learn the difference between references and coincidences? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:37, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*"May be"...ugh. '''Decline''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' This fact wasn't just added to the page yesterday; it's been there for ''nine months.'' It's listed in the history as far back as you can go. Thousands of visitors to the page have already seen it and have tacitly given it their approval. The comments above make it sound like there's ''no chance'' that TBC chose Istanbul intentionally, but let me '''put it in context:''' in the few weeks leading up to this email, there were several [[Puppet_Jam:_Vitamins/Celebrities|Puppet Jams]] added to the site. Just a few weeks after the email, [[Experimental Film]] was released (so, being a song, it was likely already in the works at the time of the email). And you're telling me they ''didn't'' have TMBG on the brain? I don't think so. Too coincidental. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:41, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''I think not.''' Being on a page for a long time does not make a fact fun. It is a coincidence, 'nuff said. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' What It's dot com said. Believe me, if you listen to TMGB for too long, it's hard to think of Istanbul without mentally adding "...not Constantinople..." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:37, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Or maybe Istanbul is just a cool-sounding place and TBC weren't making a nod to TMBG. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:33, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:42, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*"I dunno about you The Ugly One, but I say this one should be '''accepted!'''" I really think so though. I agree with everybody who said it should be accepted. I've read over this debate, and do think that that whole thing's a TMBG refrence.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 21:48, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If, someday, a birdhouse shows up in a cartoon, will that be a reference to that birdhouse song? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:49, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's beside the point (although "birdhouse" is not a word that most people use every day). Just about everybody familiar with TMBG knows their song "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and identifies one with the other. I again refer you to the ''context'' of last summer (see my comments above), and considering that, I really don't think this fact is a stretch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Well, I never gave this thing any approval, tacit or otherwise. I've patrolled this page many times and everytime I read this "fact" I wrinkled my nose. I avoided STUFF-ing it because (1) unless I'm in the right mood it's tiresome and tedious and (b) I was afraid to expose my lack of hepitude. Hep or not, I still maintain this fact is based on the purest of speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' The Istanbul song is NOT originally TMBG. My google search says it was written in 1953, and it was reasonably popular before TMBG came along.
**'''Comment.''' He comes the [http://www.songlyrics.com/song-lyrics/Four_Lads/Miscellaneous/Istanbul_(not_Constantinople)/147257.html link]! Istanbul (Not Constantinople). Artists: The Four Lads ... peak Billboard position # 10 in 1953 ... Words by Jimmy Kennedy and Music by Nat Simon -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***The question isn't whether TMBG wrote the song (a ''lot'' of cover versions of songs are as popular as or more popular than their original versions, so this too is beside the point), but whether Istanbul is a reasonable reference to TMBG, and if so whether TBC might reasonably be referencing them by choosing Istanbul. On close calls like this, where the two parties have a known relationship and were demonstrably collaborating at the time, is the standard of proof ''really'' "[[Wikipedia:Burden_of_proof#Beyond_a_reasonable_doubt|beyond a reasonable doubt]]," or would a "[[Wikipedia:Burden_of_proof#Balance_of_probabilities|preponderance of the evidence]]" standard apply? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:08, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Call me Cletus if'n ya want, but, a single word on a placard does not a reference make! Now, if the sign had Constantinople crossed out with Istanbul written below it, well ... then we're talking reference! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:21, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****Aha! Now ''that's'' an argument that addresses the heart of the issue. Especially the "crossed out" part. Good prize! I'm not going to ''officially'' downgrade my vote above to neutral ('cause I don't think it will matter anyway), but, off the record, my support for including this fact is dwindling (although not gone). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Leaning towards decline.''' It may have been a SLIGHT reference, but mainly just because it's a weird sounding, yet somewhat well-known place. Hey, Istanbul was a big part of my Geography test.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:05, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Discount Flashback Warehouse====
In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad sounds a lot like Senor Cardgage. In fact, the whole easter egg resembles the Senor Cardgage Mortgage toon.
*'''Declinating the countryside, declinating the peasants...''' Of COURSE Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage sound similar - they're alternate versions of the same character. As for similarities between the two, all I see is that they're both commercials. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 11:48, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:40, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster''': After watching it a couple more times, I see that the second part is quite a stretch. As for the first part, I think I need to clarify: Strong Bad ''talks'' like Senor Cardgage, i.e. he uses a monotoneous voice. (Nice decline message tho'...) Therefore, the fun fact '''rephrased:''' In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad's style of speaking is similar to that of Senor Cardgage.
*Excardon me, but what differation does that make, Valerie? '''Decriminoted (decline).'''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*Okay, maybe it's just me, but does anybody else notice that Strong Bad's voice is kinda rasp and expressionless? That's whay I'm basing the whole thing on.
*'''Decline''' Matt Chapman can only do so many different voices, and it makes it especially hard to try and do two alternates to the same character. Strong Bad also does somewhat of a Senor Cardgage voice at the end of [[theme park]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Comment''' One might also add that both seem to have a common source. That is, the cheap television ads that small businesses create. If you somehow don't know what I'm talking about, just watch a local network for a little while, you'll see and hear plenty of dead air, gaudy graphics, poor diction, and bad acting. Actually, I don't know how you can fully appreciate Homestar Runner without having watched even that small amount of tv.
**SIGN YOUR VOTES! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***"Comment" is not a vote. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:27, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* '''D3kl1n3!!''' I didn't bother to read all this to see if somebody had already said this, but The 'Discount' bit came before 'Senor Cardgage' bit. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 02:50, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Here comes the Thnikka-Decline-Man!''' Um, its also a second with kerrek slaya, but sewiously, this did come out before [[Senor Mortgage]]. Check yer facts, folks. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:43, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster:''' Ah cwap, I did forget to check the release dates. My apologies to the hrwiki users. This might have been the wohst hundwed wohds I evoh spent.
**'''Note on the characters:''' Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage are not the same person or even alternate versions of one another. According to Strong Sad, Senor Cardgage was a real person who lived nearby the Strongs' home. Creepy Comb Over Strong Bad is a hypothetical version of Strong Bad who ''resembles'' Senor Cardgage. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:51, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''DEE-CLINE!''' Aslo note that
A) Senor Cartgage IS Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad. He's a, as Zajac said, a hypothetical version of Strong Bad.
B) Strong Bad, in this case, is bored and sad. Senor Cartgage is pretty much always bored and sad, and so, as a result of being simply a hypothetical version of Strong Bad, Senor Cardgage is going to sound like Strong Bad here.
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[replacement]]===
====Strong Mad sings====
Strong Mad says "I'M STRONG MAD," which could be a reference A Jumping Jack Contest, in which Strong Mad poses as Strong Bad and says a similar line.

'''Verdict:''' After only one week of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly and unanimously '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:replacement]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[spring cleaning]]===
====DELETED!====
The "DELETED" screen has a green background on the Tandy. When later used on the Compy, it has a blue background. It has not been used on the Lappy thusfar.

'''VERDICT:''' This information has been '''moved''' to the [[DELETED]] page. The votes have been moved to [[Talk:spring cleaning]]

===[[rampage]]===

====Poetic chops====
Ironically, while Strong Sad glorifies iambic pentameter, his creation is a pretty bad example of it. He twists the stresses on "lyric rampage," properly pronounced LY-ric RAM-page (a pair of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trochee trochees]), into ly-RIC ram-PAGE (a pair of iambs).

*'''Decline.''' I agree with what you're saying. Also, it's not much of a rampage to be reciting at a rate of 2 syllables per second. However, I don't think anyone learns anything from this fun fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait a '''Second!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny that Strong Sad has to artificially make trochees into iambs, but maybe I'm just a nerd. Anyway, I'm sure not everyone will know this, so accept! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:38, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Sign yer vote!
**'''Weak Second to a Strong Accept.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third the Nerd''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''seconding the third''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''seconding the seconding of the third of the...whatever. I agree.''' [[user:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
****'''20x6ing the 1936''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''''
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:56, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
**'''Comment''' There is already a similar fun fact on the page.
*Great jorb!
** Uh... is that a vote? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Absolutely not the case!''' I see what you're saying, but it's not the case. It's just the way he did it to the beat...you wouldn't pronounce it the same if you're doing it to a beat.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' I hate to argue with someone on my side, but: Strong Sad says in the beginning, "Iambic pentameter is where it's at!" so then he proceeds to give a line of iambic pentameter (plus one "ummmmmm" in the middle). Yes it did match the beat, but it would be more accurate to say that the beat followed an iambic metric, and because strong sad rampaged in iambs, he matched the beat (though if he had waited half a beat before starting, he could have matched the rhythm with all trochees)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 01:31, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Strong Sad, Charles Barkley, and Ruben Studdard...long lost triplets?====
Strong Bad's insult of "round mound of gray fatness" towards Strong Sad could be derived in part from the nickname of former NBA player [[Wikipedia:Charles Barkley|Charles Barkley]], the "Round Mound of Rebound." Also, Ruben Studdard, who won [[Wikipedia:American Idol|American Idol]] in 2003 and bears more than a slight resemblance to Strong Sad in shape, is sometimes known as the "Round Mound of Sound."

*'''Decline.''' Before Jay gets to it: This, that, and the other... If it's been used more than once elsewhere, it's not a specific reference, and therefore, unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:09, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** Well, this is two unrelated things, and (if it's true) exactly one of them is it, but we don't know which. Not EXACTLY the same thing as my usual "this that and the other thing" complaint -- ''but'' -- it's too much of a stretch in either case without some extra info, so I do have to agree with '''Decline'''-ing it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Barkley and Ruben don't even look alike, much less Strong Sad. 20:52, --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Comment.''' A little Googling shows that [http://www.luma-electronic.cz/lp/p/Kenny/price_k_walking.htm Kenny Price] was the first Round Mound of Sound, way back in 1969. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Is the SB's insult of the "Round Mound of [something that rhymes with round and mound]" type? Of course it is. Is it notable? Given that the reference has been around for at least 36 years, probably not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:58, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Sad is round, a mound, gray, and fat. The only thing Strong Bad's insult is a reference to is Strong Sad's appearance. Can you streeeeeeeeetch? -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:46, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Round Mound of Decline''' Does "Gray Fatness" rhyme with "Round" and "Mound?" [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Rewrite''' it into something a bit more streamlined. Something like: "'Round Mound of Fatness' is a reference to other characters such as Kenny Price, the 'Round Mound of Sound', and Charles Barkely, the 'Round Mound of Rebound'". I like this Fun Fact, though.--[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 03:22, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite'''. When I watched [[rampage]] for the first time, I thought of Charles Barkley. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:30, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)
*'''Who's the dude on 21 Decline Street''' I think not- round mounds could be anything. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Secooooooooooooonddge.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:41, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Dumpy Dump sat on a wall====
Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "DJ Dumpy Dump" could be a combination reference to the rappers DJ Jazzy Jeff and Humpty Hump (who Coach Z once dressed up as for Halloween). It may also be a reference to rapper Doug E. Doug.

* '''Decline''' all but Humpty Hump - it's the only one close enough. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:02, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise''' As said above, just stick with Humpty Hump. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 20:16, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' Now then, if he was being called "DJ Dazzy Dump", I'd agree that it might also be a reference to jazzy jeff. But that's not what's going on here. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Humpty Hump is a fairly clear reference, I think.
*'''Accept''' I don't get it. It seems to me it pretty clearly a reference to DJ Jazzy Jeff. I am sure the Brothers are familiar with both. Doesn't it seem likely that they were refering to both?[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Uh... no?''' It matches Humpty Hump with about three letters' difference. It matches Jazzy Jeff with about ONE letter's similarity. Why does it have to be both? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Silly''' They both sound a lot like it, but DJ Jazzy Jeff has the 'DJ' and the exact same rhythm. It is silly to just go by the letters.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*** If it's VERY close to one and SORTA KINDA VAGUELY IN A WAY close to the other, why even entertain the sorta kinda vague one? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** DJ Jazzy Jeff is not the only rapper with 'DJ' in his name. That's not a specific reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:32, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** While this is true. I am hard pressed to think of one that sounds so much like DJ Dumpy Dump. Clearly I am losing this vote. (Although four to one is a pretty small sample. I have checked with friends here and they agree with me for what it is worth.) I really honestly believe it is a reference to both. I would be extremely surprised to find that The Brothers were not aware of how much it sounds like both of them. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Decline all.''' It's not a specific reference to any of those - it's a reference to Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "dumpus". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well, that TOO... but it's pretty close to Humpty Hump, so I wouldn't discount the reference possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***I know it was obvious - I'm just skeptical of any of these. It could also be a reference to Marky Mark, or Easy E (sic), or Flavor Flav, or... you catch my drift? Having the _____-y _____ thing for a name isn't THAT uncommon - and in this sense, if you've got people coming up with three or more '''possible''' references, well then perhaps it's not actually a specific reference, and as such, it probably shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DJ Decline''' There are more than one artist whose stage names begin with "DJ." There's no similarity between "Dumpy Dump" and "Jazzy Jeff." Go away. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' If you can't prove it, don't post it. I will say that the Dumpty Hump reference is the most likely one, especially if TBC have referred to the guy before. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''And a comment''' I'm seeing more and more people getting blunt or just plain rude with how they reject fun facts. I can appreciate this (alot of the supposed "facts" annoy me) but maybe its time the rules were revised a bit. Maybe limit the types of facts accepted or post clearer rules at the top of the page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' at least Humpty Hump. I also support keeping DJ Jazzy Jeff. Get rid of Doug E. Doug. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:59, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite.''' Ditch DJ Jazzy Jeff and Doug E. Doug.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' First thing I thought of was Jazzy Jeff... Then again, I'm rap-ly challenged. Humpty Hump for sure. [[User:SP|SP]]
*'''A digga. A digga. A diggity-DECLINED! I guess Homestar didn't stop me.''' I can think of another DJ with the same rhythm-Jazze Pha. (Pronounced Jazzy Fay) --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:33, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)
*'''Accept!!''' This is clearly a reference, especially considering the Coach Z costume part.

====Wite Wrapper====
The fact that Strong Sad's "whiteness" is acknowledged on his CD refers to famous white rappers such as [[Wikipedia:Eminem|Eminem]] and [[Wikipedia:Vanilla Ice|Vanilla Ice]].

* '''Del taco... wait...''' Hey, boys and girls, let's see how far we can streeeeeeeeetch Fun Facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:40, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' Yeah this one is really stretching.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
** '''Second to last place.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 02:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Ding!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* ... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:07, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I agree that it is a reference to white rappers. The problem with this fun fact is 1)the joke is obvious and 2)Eminem is considered to be a GOOD rapper (even though I can't stand him) while Strong Sad is meant to flop. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:42, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''I think this one is worth our time, maybe we should accept it--DECLINED!''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline''' Hold on The Cheat! We're gonna stretch this fun fact to the MOOOOOOOOOOOOOON! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:22, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline. White is the color of his face. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' based on the fact that it's common household knowledge (well, some households) as far as white wrapperas and jokes about them go.--[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Decline''' plus '''side note:''' There already is a fun fact about this on the page. Furthermore, Coach Z is some sort of Canadian/Minnisotan/New Englander/Bostonian white boy himself, and he can rap better than anyone else on the site. In addition, The Brothers Chaps seem to be pretty good at rapping (at least when they write and perform for Coach Z). --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline''' Why does the color of a rapper's skin matter? [[User:Fizz123|Someone who does not like racism]]
*'''Decline.''' It's not really like that...I think it's more of a stupid slang word for someone who doesn't rap well...It's been used so much it goes beyond being racist. (which is why Strong Bad can say it.) (So, Fizz123, it's not exactly a racist comment.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* I'm a girl. I don't understand this stuff. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**Please tell me this is sarcasm. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Yes, it is. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Uh Digga-Digga-Digga-DECLINED!''' For reasons already mentioned.
**Sign your vote. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]]

====English Lesson====
(under the ''quiver(ed)'' definition) In early Modern English, it would have been written "Quiver'd" (not to be confused with 404'D, Cerebellum'D, etc, etc.).
* '''Decline'd''' Don't worry, I wasn't confused in the slightest. Except, perhaps, as to why you made this 'fun' fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:46, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:07, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline.''' Number A, this is not interesting or relevant. Number B, how do you know Strong Bad didn't say it like Quiver'd? Quivered and quiver'd would be pronounced the same way. This shouldn't have even been STUFF'd. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:52, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**A,B,etc... are not numbers.
***You aren't a regular, are you? -Walking Armless
**Heh... good point on B, mibluvr13. I don't know why that didn't cross my mind when I STUFF'd this. Guess I was just thinking blindly about what was in the transcript without thinking about the actual toon. '''Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:01, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====I'm on a Rainbow====
Strong Bad capitalizing "Reading Rampage" in the e-mail could be an allusion to [[Wikipedia:Reading Rainbow|Reading Rainbow]], the popular 90's children reading show.
*<strike>'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:49, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)</strike>
*'''Accept/Rewrite''' I don't like the phrase "could be" in that statement. But you might be on to something there --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline''' 100% pure Florida natural SPECULATION! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline.''' How is capitializing a phrase a reference to anything? And it's still a stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**I submitted this fun fact because Strong Bad didn't capitalize any other rampages he mentioned, and looking at the phrase capitalized, it kind of looks and sounds like Reading Rainbow, at least alliteratively. It was the first (and so far only) thing that popped into my head as to why it was capitalized. Just wanted to state my case, whether or not it matters. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 17:26, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Heck no at all.''' This is a stretch and three quarters. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' That's pretty clever, actually! I like it. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Being clever is far from a prerequisite for a fun fact. Anyway, '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:13, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''SEVERE Decline!!!''' Anyone who thinks that is a reference needs to have their brain checked, no offense. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Are you kidding me? There's serious doubt. But not about whether this fact should be '''DECLINE'D!!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' If there's no certainty of the connection, it shouldn't be listed. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''VOTE CHANGE! SECOND!''' That's true, Beatfox. I think the only reason I voted yes before was because it sounded hillarious as a spoof...I mean, Reading Rainbow...Reading Rampage? Hahahahaha! Someone ought to make a flash 'toon about that![[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:45, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.'''If you do a google search for the phrase "reading rampage", you will see that there are a great many libraries in the U S of A that sponsor reading rampages! Still, I like the way you think. It's a stretch, but clearly you have a good sense of humor :)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:18, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*My Land! [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=reading+rampage Google] ''does'' show lots & '''lots''' of Reading Rampages going ORRRRF in the USA! This is more that just a stretch. The fact as written is just plain wrong. This is a real-world reference. I'm upgrading my vote to an '''Infinite Decline with a Major Rewrite.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:36, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' The rules of the STUFF'd page prohibit this type of unverified trivia. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Weak Decline''' I think that although this could be a connection, I think that it's stretching it a little. Strong Bad ''vaguely'' says it like Reading Rainbow in the e-mail, but not so much that it stands out to you. I could see why you'd say this, but I still think that you're probably incorrect. -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 4:08 PM, 15 Apr 2005
*'''New Trell''' You do happen to provide sufficient reasoning for the Reading Rainbow reference, but the past comments on Reading Rampages are also... well... I DON'T KNOW. I'M NEUTRAL, I DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING! ...Yeah [[User:SP'd|SP'd is crazy]]
*'''Decline's the limit''' Nah, 'tis a stretch. --[[User: Lappy 486]]

====Marzipan's Speech Impediment====
Marzipan seems to stutter uncharacteristically during the phrase "would be proud."
*'''Accept.''' I thought this was a rather unusual observation on a character who's normally very proficient with her speech. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:05, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' For once, I think this is legitimate. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 13:19, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It sure doesn't sound like "Geoff Chaucerbury" to me! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice this. Very nice. Clap, clap. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:53, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Because, uh, why does it need to be in Fun Facts? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:23, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' It's noted in the transcript (would be is written twice). --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 01:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' True, but it's not immediately obvious to the casual reader. It could easily be overlooked or mistaken for a typo. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:39, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Countercomment''' Dan vs. Jerome was similar in its construct - it was in the transcript but non-obvious. It was declined too. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 07:16, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:52, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a side of DECLINE!''' Sounded more like a simple flash goof to me. Nothing worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment''' Whatever it is, it's not a glitch. I checked it out in a sound editor. Not only are the two "would be's" unique, they make up one continuous phrase. There's no discontinuity in the waveform, and the tone of voice transitions seamlessly. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:14, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' -- I believe it's worth noting on a few counts. First, it's unusual for TBC to make this kind of goof. Second, it verifies what people believe they've heard. Third, it prevents people from trying to read into the dialog what's just not there (e.g. Geoff Chaucerbury). There! I doubt I swayed any of the Decliners, but I've had my say! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept '''but''' Move.''' Given that close analysis of the sound track has revealed that this is an actual occurance and not a glitch, it should be taken as valid, but perhaps would be best left as part of the transcript. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:15, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' Apparently, some less-informed person decided to correct this "typo" in the transcript. I have restored it and added an HTML comment to ward off such attempts in the future... whatever happened to the comment that was there before? In any case, we should at least have ''something'' on the page to point out this oddity. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:35, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Because''' someone changed it to "Chaucerbury", we talked about it, agreed it was wrong, and the person who changed it back didn't put back the comment. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''meh''' I dunno... it seems like a goof to me. Out of place.
*'''Comment''' Did anyone else find it funny that Marzipan stopped smiling as Homsar stopped his AaAaAaAa...? ''I'' thought that was funny.
** Yes, I noticed - but what does that have to do with this fact? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:53, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*** Nothing, that's why it was a comment. :) '''Accept''' the fact btw --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*You've been '''ACCEPTED''' into Crazy Go Nuts University!...Seriously, folks, this Fun Fact looks like it's good to go.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:45, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Pie, Anyone?====
"The pie's the limit" may be refering to Strong Bad's wednesday pie motivational talks in [[other days]].
*'''Decline.''' Just because it contains "pie" doesn't necessarily mean it's a reference. And I don't like the "may be". [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:54, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I want to accept this, I really do, but there's just not enough there there. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:58, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''I can't think of a Decline pun right now''' Well, in my opinion, it's just a play on "The Sky's The Limit." Pie is actually a pretty widely used running gag on H*R, including the pie motivational talks mentioned earlier, piemonade, etc. So if anything, this should be in some other section. [[User:SP|SP]]
*'''Decline''' Hot soup is on my eye![[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' "The pie's the limit" is a reference to the old saying "The sky's the limit." Strong Bad was just being silly by saying pie instead of sky. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*I don't know why, but when I see "may be" in a fun fact, I can see a kitten dying. '''Declinester''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' That and it violates the guidelines of good fun facts (see top of page). --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:16, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Decline, word up''' no way, just one word, obviously wrong.

====Chicken Soup for the Soul====
One of the books seen during Strong Bad's "reading rampage" is titled Soup, Right?, a reference to the "[[Wikipedia:Chicken Soup for the Soul|Chicken Soup for the Soul]]" book series.
*'''Accept'''I like Chicken Soup! You dang right it's a reference![[User: Umbertowasted|Umbertowasted]]
*'''Decline.''' Stretchy stretchy Stretch Armstrong! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:32, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:00, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I am sure this is an intentional reference.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I can see this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' They stretch you, and stretch you, and STREEEEEEEETCH you! --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' No more a stretch than the ''For Jerks'' book referencing the ''For Dummies'' ones. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Except that "Soup, Right?" doesn't sound at all like Chicken Soup for the Soul, whereas "(Topic) for Jerks" is just like "(Topic) for Dummies".
*'''Decline.''' Soup, Right? could be short for "Soup Done Right" or something like that. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 13:20, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No way, Lucy.''' Sharing one word doesn't make it a reference. Seriously, people, you're not even trying anymore. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' You're stretching! Like RB said: It's only sharing ONE word!! Come on, people!! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:29, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Not trying? Seems more like they're trying too hard. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Delete.''' There's not way that that is a reference. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:37, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I based my vote based on the fact that the books Strong Bad is reading are meant to sound like advice books. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DELORTED!''' That almost definitely doesn't have anything to do with anything. That's like saying "Sweatshirtguy" is a reference to Rocky.
*'''Insert witty DECLINE comment here''' MAJOR STRETCH! Just cause they share the same word doesn't mean they're related. Wow. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
**'''Second.''' Totally unsupported theory. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:18, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Accept''' Definately a reference
**'''Sign teh vote!''' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 00:02, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**"Definately" not. '''DECLINED''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:56, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Inclined to Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' While we're at it, "Biscuit" is a reference to "Seabiscuit."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Are you sure you didn't want to type decline? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:37, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I meant accept. Try to name other bestsellers with the words "soup" or "biscuit" in them. It seems clear to me that the titles aren't just random--they're either references to real books, real things (brown story), or HR references. The only thing that seems random to me is Strong Mad's waffle, which reads "BUG."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:18, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***I'm not convinced. It's still one word, and both words happen to be kinds of food. And I, for one, didn't even know "Seabiscuit" was a book til you mentioned it. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 00:06, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***FYI, the book "Seabiscuit" was a major bestseller even before the movie came out.
****Excuuuuse me, Princess, for being a disaffected youth. I haven't picked up anything worth reading since Hitchhiker trilogy. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And, rsl12, you're basing your crackpot theory on the fact that the words soup and biscuit appear in SBemails? Sorry, wrong. You're an idiot. Good-bye.-- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:08, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Goodbye. Hope you don't come back. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 13:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Okay, okay, enough with the insults. Agree to disagree. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I'll stop, but I don't like how some people can totally go blind in saying someone has no manners for STUFFing a fun fact. Either way, my vote is upgraded to '''Severe Decline/Delete.'''--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:11, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Duh-duh-duh-declined''' Not a reference.
*'''Not neccesarily.''' It could also be a reference to the book "Soup." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:48, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====It's a Bird, it's a Plane, it's Pie???====

"The pie's the limit" is a reference to the quote, "The sky is the limit," which is found on Thorax Corporation's website.

*'''Decline-erson''' Not only is this fact too obvious, but "The sky is the limit" is a cliché, and is not exclusive to Throax.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Well look who thinks he's Clever Dan. Wait, you're wrong, it's a reference to the Notorious B.I.G., he made a song called "Sky's the Limit" so he must've copyrighted the phrase!!!!111one Ugh...
*'''Decline x999''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Piecline.''' Sorry, that's the best I can do with this one. Why wasn't this just deleted? --- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Because I wanted to make sure it wasnt just my oppinion that this stunk.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:48, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Looks like you're not alone on this one! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Re: why this wasn't just deleted: there's a lot of fun facts on these transcripts that should just be disposed of promptly. This one I agree with. But then again, if we did that, there wouldn't be a STUFF page. And by the way, I also '''decline.''' -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:46, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE-ED!''' The sky is the limit is a popular phrase. Just because it's found on the Thorax Corp's website doesn't make it a reference. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:40, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Worst Place''' I decline it because it is so freaking obvious that if you didn't understand it the first time you must be an idiot. [[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[time capsule]]===
====Norse mythology====
The line about making people from spit may be a reference to a Norse myth, in which the Aesir (war gods) and Vanir (fertility gods), to seal a peace treaty between them, made a man (named Braugi) from their collective spit. He knew all their combined secrets, but was eventually killed by giants.
*'''Decline.''' It's more likely a reference to the fact that spit contains DNA, and it may one day be possible to clone someone from their DNA. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Third''' Coincidental. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* While I'm suprised about how much you know about Norse Mythology...'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Uh... no. While that's a very well thought-out reach, it's still a reach - the reference is to cloning from DNA. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:12, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' It's probably a reference to DNA and cloning. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:24, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* You obviously put a lot of work into this one, but unfortunately, I must '''Decrine.''' As said by other folks above, it's a reference to cloning from DNA. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:49, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept.''' This is a FUN FACT! Mind you, I highly doubt this is what TBC were trying to reference, but my life has been enriched by reading this. I would suggest rewriting it, however, to say "There is a story in Nordic mythology in which the Aesir (war gods)...." This way, there's no suggestion that TBC was trying to reference this fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No way does this work. The whole joke is based on the popular misconseption of what cloning is. Clones are genetic twins, not exact duplicates with the same minds, thoughts, and memories of the original. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:21, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Decline.''' This is NOT a fun fact. This is barely a fact. Why wasn't this one just deleted? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:54, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[pizzaz]]===
====Third Interview====
This is the third time Strong Bad has interviewed somebody. He "interviewed" [[Homsar]] (actually himself speaking for Homsar) in the email "[[interview]]" and he interviewed [[Homestar]] in the toon [[The Interview]].
*'''Accept.''' Nice one. [[User:hamrodrunner|hamrodrunner]]
*'''Decline.''' This should never have been STUFF-ed. It should have been deleted outright. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:48, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' To paraphrase a below quote, fun facts aren't made to count how many times things happen. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline to the moon''' Firsts are noteworthy... thirds aren't so much. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move/revise''' How about moving it to the Fast Forward of the "interview" e-mail and saying something like "Strong Bad also conducts interviews in [[The Interview]] and [[pizzaz]]." [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 17:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**How about not? Noting how many times Strong Bad conducts interviews isn't fun - anybody watching those e-mails can tell for themselves whether or not he's conducting interviews. And the fact that the two toons being referenced actually have the word "interview" in the title makes this one even more obvious and unnecessary. '''Declined''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:24, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Nobody cares. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Severe Decline!''' First times are somewhat interesting, second times are not, and third times are hazardous to your health.
*'''Declination Nation.''' No offense, man. I mean, you should get credit for trying, but it's just, well, boring. No one cares.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declorned.''' Nobody cares about thirds, or even seconds. First's are okay (mostly). But back to the subject, this is not a worth fun fact. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''(accept?)''' i thought it was a good fact...
*My card is totally '''D3CL1N3'D!!!''' I don't think this is worth mentioning. None of his "interviews" seem to get any information out of anyone anyway. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
====CREEPING floating DEATH flashlight====
When everyone is telling ghost stories, no one actually holds the flashlight with his or her hands. It just sort of floats in front of everyone. With Homestar, Marzipan, and the King of Town, this makes sense, since none of them have visible hands, but we should see everybody else's hands.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:Homestarloween Party]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:31, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Fhqwhgads]]===
====Not Expecting====
Fhqwhgads actually just sent the Email as a joke. It was not intended to be used. However, Fhqwhgads, whose personal information will not be revealed because of a request not to, did say this in an AIM conversation: "I didn't spoof a virus. I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." If you don't believe this, you can contact him-his AIM screename is IamFHQWHGADS142. (He has pride that he is Fhqwhgads) -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]]

'''VERDICT:''' This item was closed on request by the author. See below for a new version of this fun fact. Voting moved to [[Talk:Fhqwhgads]]--[[User:-erson|<nowiki>Posted by </nowiki>-erson]] 01:27, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====The joke theory====
- (An outcome of "Not Expecting")
- It's been theorized that this [that the email was a spoof of the "i love you" virus] is not true. A person claiming to be Fhqwhgads said he actually just sent the Email as a joke, and that it was not intended to be used. "I didn't spoof a virus," he said, "I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." However, due to a concern about personal provacy, he would not give any information. -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:36, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Still Decline''' Next thing you know the Wiki will be flooded with kids claiming to have their own story about why they e-mailed Strong Bad. Too much speculation, no real way to prove any of it. Its bad enough that we have people thinking they can get their fun facts in by putting "It may be" or "Its possible that" in with them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:33, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''2nd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:02, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I can see how we wouldn't want to let this get out of hand, but we're fighting a problem we don't even have. If people were going to randomly and falsely claim to be email authors, I think they'd already be doing it. Plus, we're not talking about accepting ''all'' such claims; we're only concerned here with ''this'' case (and if the Supreme Court of the United States can make a ruling while at the same time declaring that it ''doesn't'' set precedent, so can we). Lastly, I think TK genuinely believes to be in contact with ''the'' fhqwhgads, and that should carry some weight. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:54, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Thank you. And I assure everyone here: neither I nor any of my comrades (including Fwh) is anywhere near crazy. ^_^ In fact, I really hate nonevident and irrational claims, and I most certainly would not want the wiki to be flooded with them! But I seriously know THE Fhqwhgads -TK
*Well I genuinly think that I'm in contact with people who can't get my point. It could be true yes but he can't prove it so it shouldn't go up in any way shape or form. No different than any other fun fact that needs proof to be accepted. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline-erson''' Is it not possible that this potential AIM'er could be a fake, just claiming to be Fwh but not him truely? And, if it was the true Fwh, than wouldnt it make sence that his AIM name (IamFHQWHGADS142) wouldnt have numbers at the end, as the real Fwh would probably be the first person to make such a name and wouldnt require the numbers at the end of it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 12:45, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's NOT the Fun Fact in question. You're thinking of "Not expecting." This is different! Plus lemee just clarify this: in order to fully understand the esscense of THIS fact, you gotta forget it even HAD a predescessor (and all the information included in that one.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Well than, how did you get that information and those quotes? By talking to a person on AIM. How do you know that person was the real Fwh? You dont! Still '''Decline'''. --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:27, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' The person COULD have just wanted numbers in his screename. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 20:21, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Exactly! You tryin to say I should just be TakuaKaita? A little insulting. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]]
**'''Comment.''' The real Fwh would not have made an AIM name before writing the e-mail because it was random banging on the keyboard. Only once the e-mail had become famous would s/he have made that name. By that time, someone else likely took the AIM name first, forcing the real Fwh to add numbers.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Both versions hinge upon a quote from the purported foogoograss. The quote is impossible to verify. As a result, both fact and theory should be rejected. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:41, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Which is why "claimed" is used...look you gous are missing the point...the point is it wasn't based on the virus, not that I know Fwh. Besides, if proof is all you guys seem to care about, what "proof" do we have that it WAS based on the virus?[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:45, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno, maybe the large Scare that passed during the same time this email was released? It could be an influence considering it wason every news station across the land. I mean honestly... And note: in order for it to be a fun '''fact''', it needs proof. Its not a fact without it! --[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.'''You're right. There is no proof. Frankly, I think the "virus" theory should be deleted/stuff-ed. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:30, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No proof, no fun fact in my opinion. If it requires furthur input, then let me say this. If it were me who sent the e-mail, I wouldn't go off and register a new AIM, e-mail or whatever, I'd just keep my own. However, I do disagree with the number theory. Maybe the numbers had significance. But anyway, there's no way to prove it so it can't be claimed a fact. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[date]]===
====Ren & Stimpy XR====
The logo for the Extra Real Dating Sim XR is based on the logo for the Nickelodeon cartoon "Ren & Stimpy".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:date]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:04, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the show]] ===
====Homestar's "Arms"====
Unless Homestar is holding the microphone under his armpit when he is reciting his list, this is another one of those times when it's questionable as to how many invisible arms he has: he holds the microphone in one hand, his cards in the other, and flips them over each other all at the same time.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:the show]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 12:15, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[suntan]] ===
====Marzipan's Parasol====
Marzipan is carrying a toothpick parasol one would normally receive with a tropical drink, only hers seems to be much larger than normal. Except that tropical drink parasols are modelled after real parasols . . . which are, you know, real . . .

''After a week of unanimous declines, this Fun Fact has been closed. The votes for this fun fact can be seen at the [[Talk:suntan|talk page]] of suntan.

=== [[local news]] ===
====Scalawag====
"Scalawag" may possibly be a reference to a Calvin and Hobbes strip in which Calvin and Hobbes sing the "Very Sorry Song" :
:(Calvin) "I'm sorry, so sorry I took your precious flaaaaag"
:(Hobbes) "Just don't do it again you scurvy scalawaaaaaag"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:local news]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[brianrietta]] ===
==== "Tough Guys"? ====
This is the only reference to homosexuality in the entire site, '''and thankfully Strong Bad handled it more maturely than most "tough guys" would have.'''

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, the majority of votes said to '''Decline''' this fact outright. Discussion moved to [[Talk:brianrietta]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:09, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Hom Sar Ref====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:00, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Trial Game origin====

The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====False Advertising====

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- tomstiff 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Special Appearance====
Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.

''After a week of unanimous declines, this fun fact has been rejected. You can see the votes at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].

====Whats Her Face's lack of appearance====

For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:54, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio====

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:22, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Tall homestar?====
In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Updated for the 90's====
Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:17, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]===
====Sweating====
Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:51, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====X-Pensive Winos====
The text "X-PENSIVE W..." appearing on Strong Bad's 'light pen' before he shakes it up may be a reference to Rolling Stones guitarist [[Wikipedia:Keith Richards|Keith Richards']] solo band the X-Pensive Winos.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:59, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Rodeo Hot Dogs====
"Rodeo Hot dogs" is a reference to the old Oscar Meyer mascot.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:56, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

'''Verdict:''' After almost a month of voting, this fact was voted to be '''Moved''' from Goofs to Remarks on [[long pants]]. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:long pants]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Bedroom Window====
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

'''Verdict:''' After almost a month of voting, this fact was '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 12:43, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Breaking the Lappy====
Strong Bad indicates that The Cheat has a history of breaking the Lappy. Perhaps The Cheat demonstrated this tendency with the Compy 386 as well. This may explain why the Compy apparently bore a grudge against The Cheat, as demonstrated in [[couch patch]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[techno]]===
====Silent J====
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:techno]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[the bet]]===
====Forgotten Lie====
Strong bad says in the King of Town DVD that the King does not live in a castle. However, in this email he seems to have forgotten all about it.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad does things like this frequently, and it's not the first time he's lied about something, i.e. The Cheat not having a computer in [[huttah!]] -Walking Armless
*'''Rewrite and accept.''' The idea's there, but it's a little wordy. Cut it down maybe to something like "Strong Bad said in the DVD that he didn't have a castle, but aspparently he does here."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:06, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not only does Strong Bad have a penchant for lying, but this isn't even the first time after the KoT DVD that we've seen or heard about the KoT's castle. Check 3 Times Halloween Funjob or 'Tis True, Pom Pom, 'Tis True (the latter was unreleased until recently but was clearly started long before this email), as well as a few other 'toons. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:07, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:56, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I disagree that anything noted as "so far" is bad (though "this is the first time" is usually more appropriate.) However, this fact isn't totally true as stated, so '''Rewrite and accept''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Cory====
The painting marked "Cory" is most likely a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]].

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:That A Ghost]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 21:48, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

*Keep '''Mr. Mxyzptlk''' and '''The Great Gazoo'''. Scrap the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' The "Great Gazoo" bit is DEFINITELY a reference as the cartoon is a parody of Hanna Barbera cartoons. I'm not so certain about Mr. Mxyzptlk, but I do agree that it's a valid reference. However, I think Gazoo should come first, as per the Flintstones parody. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Just did a little checking - Gazoo first appeared in 1964, while Mr. Mxyzptlk first appeared in 1987, as did Q (on the pilot of ST:TNG). Gazoo should be first in the fact as he's first chronologically, and while I'm still iffy about Mxyzptlk being included, seeing as how the title of the episode "Encounter at Groupulon 5" is a reference to the pilot of ST:TNG, I think the Q reference is definitely valid. Mighty Max is a huge stretch, though the hat and the "muddle me twice" line definitely seem to point to a Riddler reference. John Bozar seems to be an amalgam of all of them - this may be a TTATOT fact, but for once, there's a basis for it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' According to Wikipedia, [[Wikipedia:Mr._Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]] was introduced in 1944. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Comment.''' My bad - I didn't realize he was THAT old. Curse the internet for diseminating false information! In any case, I still think he's an amalgam of Mxyzptlk, Gazoo, Q, and Riddler - but then we get into TTATOT territory. Still, with this being an OBVIOUS Hanna Barbera parody, I think Gazoo should take precedence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:25, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I thought we'd already declined this TTATOT fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:50, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Actually Jay, I think we declined the fact about the guy with the metal jaw, not Bozar. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:54, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Albi refs Abdi?? ====
Strong calls the author of the email Albi, which is a reference to the author of the first email, [[some kinda robot]], who was named Abdi.

*'''Decline.''' Albi is short for Albin, not a reference to Abdi. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Yep. Yep. Yeap. Second.''' -Walking Armless
**'''Threecond.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*...urge to kill...rising... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Guitar throw refs [[invisibility]]?? ====
When Space Gary throws his guitar and says "I guess I won't be needing THIS anymore," it is a reference to [[invisibility]]. Strong Bad says the same thing when he gets rid of the broken [[Tandy 400]] and replaces it with the [[Compy 386]].

*'''Decline.''' Inflection is different, throwing is different than knocking off the desk, and the line isn't even the same ("And don't need THIS anymore"). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Go TheEggman!!''' Uh... I mean '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:56, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's a common phrase. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:14, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Oh please... are you surfing HR.com randomly looking for things to correlate? '''Decline!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:12, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== rrll == grrl ?? ====
The use of "rrll rrll" is probably the latest version of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]."

*'''Decline.''' The latest version, what? "rrll" is for "real", "grrl" is for "girl" - what's the relation, besides not using any vowels? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''¡Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:53, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Segundo.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:34, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*It's not even worth it to be sarcastic. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''One less than Third'''

==== Rudiments ====
"rrll rrll" is a common short-hand notation for a [http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments/06longroll.html double-stroke roll], which is a percussion rudiment executed by playing two strokes on a single hand followed by two in the alternate hand and repeating.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:07, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

'''Vredict:''' This fact was voted to be '''Rewritten and Moved'''. The revised fact now appears on [[best thing]], while the discussion can be found at [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:44, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold was in question)

'''Verdict:''' After about a month of voting, the fact in bold was narrowly '''declined''' by a score of 2-3. The Star Trek reference has been put back on [[best thing]], while the entire discussion can be found on [[Talk:best thing]]. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:colonization]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:dragon]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:18, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

-Edited by [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]. (Link was to [[rock opera]], not dragon)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:36, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

'''Verdict:''' After almost two months of voting, this fact recieved a single '''Decline''' vote. Discussion moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:45, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''Verdict:''' After almost two months of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Where's The Cheat?]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:56, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== You killed Pom-Pom! ====
When storng bad said he killed pom-pom it may be a reference to south park and them "killing Kenny"

*'''Decline''' Uh...no. "Storng" Bad was just trying to scare Marzipan with a crank call. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:36, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unmatchable Decline''' Spell right, blast ye! -Walking Armless
*'''Delcine.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*You may be a reference to the superfluousness of the Shift Key... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Indelible Cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' First thing, this was disqualified with the "may be." Second off, no flippin' way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*'''OMG WHAT WERE YOU THINKING''' This is the worst fact i have ever heard. You thing every time somebody says they killed somebody it means it was referencing to Kenny? Declined as delined can be.
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, or it could be reference to any other cartoon that once used the word "kill"! I bet you just wanted South Park to be mentioned on this site. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:40, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' If he always pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"? Just saying... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Almost everyone is saying that this is common. But really - other than "pimecone" and "pamcake", when has Homestar EVER switched Ms and Ns? I can't think of even one other time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Accurate, but not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:38, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move?''' Perhaps this would be worth noting in Homestar's character page?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:56, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' What, nobody can answer my question? Then this fact is very likely TRUE! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:31, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move.''' Substituting 'm' for 'n' may be a running gag... Leomard Sportsinterviews, anyone? --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:28, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:20, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:The Best Decemberween Ever]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:21, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk: Kick the Can]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' by a score of 4-6. Discussion moved to [[Talk:other days]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:27, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Pizzle the Nizzle ====
The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:other days]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:55, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

'''VERDICT:''' This fun fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:24, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:20, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Comment''' Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]]
*'''I decline thee! *smack*''' Homsar came back after being crushed by Heavy Lourde. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 16:08, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' If you applied this to TGS, they wouldn't have lasted 8 issues! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I dunno abput this one... it is true, but the way it is said, i just don't know.

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:02, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:12, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' They probably decided on "frickin'" for the same reason Fricker's did: it sounds like "chicken". --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Here's a [http://www.frickers.com/locations.asp Frickin'] link!
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Decline, the word "frickin'" used before "wings" means nothing to me. Are there even Frickers' in Antlanta?

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_4]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Decemberween_Teen_Girl_Squad]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Fatty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.
*'''Decline.''' The names look the same. The characters do not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''OT Comment (wasn't sure where to put this).''' Tomstiff, when you make an edit, you might want to try writing your summary after the asterisk-slash rather than before it. Otherwise, when you click on the entry's arrow on the history page, it won't take you to the proper section on the (rather lengthy) STUFF page. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:43, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Big Fat Decline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:45, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*"insert-random-flash-only-you-know-about" is not a valid source for TBC to reference. '''Hup Hup, Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:32, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I remember reading TBC don't watch other flash cartoons. I'll put a link to the interview here as soon as I find it. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:47, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Just the word Fatty, I don't think so.

====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:08, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:15, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** kerrek, vote in your post correctly, or your signature doesn't count.
*** anony, stfu with your sarcasm correctly, or your misplaced humor doesn't count. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 08:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Everybody, shuttup, or this fist in your face will count, at... breaking... your teeeth..
BTW, '''Declined''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Dreamail doesn't have a back button either. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:15, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

'''VERDICT''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:island]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:47, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:island]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:2 years]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:2 years]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:44, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:55, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

'''Verdict:''' After several months of voting, this fact was narrowly '''Accepted''' by a score of 3-2. The fact is now on [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], while the discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:00, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Slippers ====
Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:48, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''-- [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.
*Using a rusty stake knife does not make him a blade man, man. '''Declined man, man.''' [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless
**'''Decline for the pudgy.''' What the armless guy said. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' I think that is just Homsar-ness. --[[User:Lappy 486]]

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1 after several weeks of voting, this item is accepted. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinio''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Since there is a staircase next to Homestr's room, either his room is on the second floor or he has a basement." That should take care of any confusion.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That is about as obvious as saying "if there is a building with 5 floors and you go to the top floor, you are on the 5th floor." [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

'''Verdict:''' After many weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' as the re-written version below. The re-write now appears on [[animal]], and the discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 22:34, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:27, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:03, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.
*'''Decline''' There, you just said it yourself. Shortly ''>>'''AFTER'''<<'' the release of this e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.
*'''Decline.''' It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says. And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''No no no.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.
*'''Decline.''' Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Dr. Decline.''' An eyepatch is a common accessory for villains. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:35, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Weak Accept.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept, Second''' I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
*<strike>'''Actual Decline.'''</strike> All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! <strike>I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds.</strike> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I'd agree if just ''one'' CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they ''all'' have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh*''' Oh, great. Now ''I'm'' undecided, too. What's the real issue here? Is the shape there? Yes. Is it pretty well-formed? Yes. Did TBC put it there intentionally? I say no, but admittedly that's just a gut feeling. And you never know with those guys. So, as a straight "didja' notice?" fact, I'm persuaded to change my vote to '''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:06, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Definite Accept''' Also, the reason they All have the spot is that the Cheat Commandos are carbon copies of one image(with accessories, facial hair, etc.). Plus, Mickey's head would be in color; The Mickey logo, however, is the solid black tri-circle seen on the CC's. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' I mean, ''I'' think it's interesting... --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:41, 13 Apr 2005
*'''<strike>Kevin 'Cline''' It's just a dot. It may be in that shape, but it's definitely unintentional. I mean, do you ever intentionally draw your dots in the shape of Mickey Mouse heads?</strike> Eh. I'm neutralizing. And gasp at the below comment. (EDIT) Ouch. Just struck out everything. Damn slash. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Weak Decline.''' Google search for Hidden Mickeys if you're interested in the time-honored tradition for Disney artists to hide Mickey heads in everything they can get their hands on. That being said, he Mickey head I see on the Commandos is fairly deformed. The ears are too small and too close together, for instance. Since this probably wouldn't pass muster for a Hidden Mickey, I'm giving a pass on this fact. (and for SP, yes I do draw my dots in the shape of Mickey heads!) <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 00:42, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Revise Slightly.''' "All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking that looks like the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg." Fun, kind of interesting, and true, even if it wasn't on purpose!--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I think it is just the shape of the spot. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Acceptinated!''' I see it, and it's still kinda interesting, even if it wasn't intentional. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 07:05, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

*'''Accept.''' It says "ages 3-5" quite clearly at the bottom right of each action figure package. Why was this STUFF-ed? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 03:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''What? Undelete it! Undelete it!''' Do something! Do anything! *ahem* Accept. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:23, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag. <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either. <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I think it is just a joke Strong Bad made up for the montage. He didn't really go out with a wagon fulla pancakes, did he? [[User: Lappy 486]]

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' by a score of 4-2. The fact has been re-posted on [[Strong Sad's Lament]], and the discussion can be found on [[Talk:Strong Sad's Lament]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*Not the first. I know, [[homsar]], [[homsar]]. But his message is longer than "Yeah, what is it Strong Bad?". Maybe with some rewording? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline, or severe rewrite.''' Given the fact that this could become false in the future, as well as the item's subjective opinion, this one shouldn't be included. And what about "Hey Reggie, is that rhinocerous around?" That's a legible sentence - in fact, everything he says is legible. It just doesn't make any sense. Possibly the word you're looking for is "intelligible" or something along the lines of "Homsar's message makes the most sense out of anything he has ever said." But again, you're dealing with the "could be become false later" issue. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:15, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:26, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept'''. Very noteworthy. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 02:00, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Opinion ("the most...ever") I don't think a rewrite would solve much. --[[User:The Paper|THE PAPER]] 16:42, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Severe Decline with a Complete Rewrite''' Is it noteworthy? Yes ... yes it is. Is it the most legible thing he's ever said? Dunno, I've never seen the Haddi-man's handwriting. It may be the most intelligible thing he's ever said ... to date. That's what makes this a bad fact: Homsar could become the most erudite cast member tomorrow. To quote from [http://www.ibras.dk/montypython/episode23.htm#3 Scott of the Sahara]...Rewrite! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:59, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I'm assuming this message was made in response to [[homsar]] to bring Homsar back since he was supposedly "killed". Also, since he was relatively new as a character, he wasn't as of yet uniquely nonsensical, as he is now. I'm believin' that's the reason this is the most legible thing he has ever written...I mean, said. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 02:02, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Yes, I meant intelligable, not legible. I forgot the word. I meant it makes sense the most. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:55, 16 April 2005 (MDT)
**Not to super nitpick, but the best word to use would probably be "sensible", since intelligible is just the ability to say words and sentences. He says stuff just fine, it just never makes any sense. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 03:07, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''"That's a real popular song! Who want's to hear that it's ACCEPTED!"''' Yep, I think this is a good point! Great job! *claps*--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 23:50, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Same thing that GillanTheVillain said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:31, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I thought that too, it was really insane. Thumbs Up! --[[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 10:57, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Why was this STUFF'd? It's demonstrably true, and it's something most people wouldn't notice just by watching the 'toon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:40, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''2nd''' place. Ding! --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Answer''' Unless I'm missing something, it wasn't actually deleted from the 'toon in question - apparently, VC added it directly here. Which is technically how STUFF is SUPPOSED to work, but nobody uses it that way. ;) Anyway, this one is true enough that it could have been directly added and no one would have batted an eye, so '''Accept'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:35, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Mistah Hippo says Accept!''' By the way, I use STUFF that way. o.o --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:28, 23 Apr 2005

==Games==
===[[Thy Dungeonman]]===
====Earthbound====
Dungeonman might be a reference to Brick Road from "Earthbound," who was attempting to attain the title of "Dungeonman" throughout the course of the game.
*'''Decline''' Why, you ask? Let me explain the Dungeonman of Earthbound for a minute. The man attempts to MAKE dungeons, and in the end BECOMES a dungeon - which is not the same as Thy Dungeonman, who merely EXPLORES dungeons. And with no other connection, I can't let this one sit without a vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*(drops potato sacks) NO, IT'S NOT. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 10:57, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===
====Two names?====
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.
*'''Fhqwdlcinds''' So??? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So, rather dashing's real name name is Julio. Good catch! Just '''revise''' it so that its a little more obvious. Try:
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in
Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.
--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Me Declino Infinito.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:09, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''REWRITE'D!''' I was the one who wrote the thing anyway, so I rewrote it with -erson-san's suggestion. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:09, 14 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline the new one too''' It's still useless, and perhaps now moreso - are we next going to say that his name is Misspeller Jones? (Type "get plague" near the lantern.) It's a joke. Just go with it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' But, it might NOT be. Geez, why does everyone always decline everything around here? --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 10:45, 16 Apr 2005
*** Oh, wait, what was that word? "Might"? As in, you're not certain? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:08, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But the fact that Rather Dashing is saying "Me llamo Julio" as a conversation starter to the Kerrek would be a different case. Do you ever say "Hello my name is..." and mention an incorrect name? And about the "Misspeller Jones", is it not common for people to make up nicknames for people about their different characteristics? Like you call a clumbsy person "Butterfingers" even though his real name is Bob, or a bad typist "Misspeller Jones" even though his real name is Julio? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:34, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****It sounds to me like the sort of thing you'd find in the first five pages of a beginners' Spanish textbook, and without otherwise knowing what to say to the Kerrek, he just rambled relative nonsense. We know his real name, and it's not Julio. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:06, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******We dont ''know'' that his real name is Rather Dashing, the character doesn't actually say it himself. Just the narrator. And whos more likely to know his own name, the narrator or Rather Dashing? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 02:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*******So, at the end of the game, the NARRATOR tells Trogdor (who repeats it - in voice acting!) that his name is Rather Dashing? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:17, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
********Sorry, I never played to the end of the game. But honeslty, what are the odds that if he was talking nonsence he would utter a phrase that just happens to be a very popular opening statement when meeting new people? And, there is no where in the game where it tells you Rather Dashing can't speak Spanish. Perhaps he though Kerrek spoke spanish.
*********Yes, I just double-checked the ending. The narration says "You scream that your name is Rather Dashing", followed by a long speech with a computer voice reading along (a direct quote by Trogdor), ending in "It will be a pleasure to burninate you, Rather Dashing." One random piece of text may give small credence to your theory that RD's real name is Julio, but the entire rest of the game contradicts it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:24, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Perhaps a rewrite than to indiciate that Rather Dashing's name may be Julio according to that text?--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 02:31, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I don't think Fun Facts is a place for theories that "may be" true based on a possible interpretation of one statement. '''Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:30, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yet Another Comment.''' We all know that "rather dashing" is a term meaning you're good-looking. Maybe he just calls himself that because he thinks he's, well, good-looking. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:41, 17 Apr 2005 (EST)
*How do we know he just didn't read that off of a Spanish textbook? It's just as much speculation to say that Rather Dashing CAN speak Spanish as it is to say he can't. Can't you just accept that this is random TBC humor? Seriously, this is a bigger stretch than Dhalsim. '''Me llamo decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment Numero Tres.''' Look, we're never going to get anywhere like this, and I'm sick of the arguments. Someone lock this thing, PLEASE. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:53, 19 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' Throughout all of the Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer, Rather Dashing is referred to as ... Rather Dashing. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:25, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting this item was unanimously declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:53, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

'''Verdict:''' After several weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 23:09, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I think it is pretty much already stated. --[[User: Lappy 486]]

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. '''All Your Second Are Belong To Us''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Black Spots====
Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

*'''Decline''' Maybe if I understood what this was saying I might like it more, but it still doesn't seem right. What do you guys think? -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declininated''' I don't get it. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:10, 19 Apr 2005
*'''Allow me''' I THINK what is being said is this:
The black portion of Stinkoman's mask is missing in his sprite form, because
it is a ripoff of Megaman sprites.
*However, this is pretty useless AND false (it's not a ripoff of Megaman sprites, just strongly based on them.) Most old, small sprites lack detail seen in their fully-drawn form. So I must concur with '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And you can't see Mario's nostrils in Super Mario Bros. So? '''Let's Declining Love''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you asking for a Decline?!?''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]
*'''Decline''' I'd agree with you, but there's proof that says otherwise.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:11, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
=== Cross-Toon Facts ===
==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1, this item is declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:The discussion can be found at the [[HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts_Archive#Parents_.28declined.29|STUFF Archive]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:57, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[best thing]]===

====limozeen====
Limozeen: But they're in space is almost a direct reference to the flopped saturday morning show Josie and the Pussy Cats in space.

*'''Definite Rewrite.''' Try again. It IS a direct reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 01:52, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Should not be on the STUFF page.''' Another version of this fact already went through the STUFF process and can be seen under the "Explanations" heading in [[best thing]]. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:02, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''CONCUR'D''' Once and only once applies to STUFF as well. Sorry. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:54, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted
on two parallel wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut it out, you."</pre>

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral'''So what your saying if 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
====Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F====
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

*'''Decline.''' He could be saying something like "freakin' crap". --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 11:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
** '''Second''' ----

*'''Wait a minute...''' Wasn't this already STUFF'D? Or am I imagining things? Either way, I decline. I'm pretty sure everyone could guess what Strong Bad was going to type. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 12:36, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seems pretty out of character (at least in hindsight) for both SB and TBC -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it was deliberate. Remember when Strong Bad shouted, "Screw all y'all!" in [[sb_email 22]]? I wouldn't call it out of character. However, TBC seems to have toned down the just barely borderline vulgar humor since the old emails in order to make the site more kid-friendly. That's just my opinion though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:50, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I always understood it as a humorous almost-usage of the F-word. This kind of gag is pretty common, even occurring in G-rated movies such as ''The Lion King'' and ''Finding Nemo''. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Heh, yeah, I know what you're talking about. "Why do I always have to save your AHHHHHHH!" "Don't you all realize we're swimming in our own--" "Shhh!" --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 1:10, 21 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' TBC have a no swearing policy. Boarderline swears are just jokes. Plus this is a speculatory "fact". The "f" could have been for anything. And "presumably" is just another way to say "may be". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Probably right, but who needs a fun fact to tell them this? It's as useful as saying, "When strongbad does this and this, he's making fun of the grammar in the e-mail."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I agree with Upset Your Balance et al. in that I think it was deliberate, but isn't it pretty obvious? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:35, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Everything is as it was. Not sure why this was removed after just one day of voting. '''NOTE:''' please allow 2 weeks of voting before declaring a verdict! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Strong Bad almost said the F-word, everyone who knows about the F-word can figure that out we don't need something to tell us about it. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.''' I think what The_Pardack said pretty much summed it up. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 03:13, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It is true that anyone can figure out, but TBC don't usually curse. I think this is the closest we're going to get. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:10, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nope....''' I don't think this needs to be a fun fact at all... i think it was just a joke for the email, not a fact or anything.
*'''DECLINE'd!!!''' Not because he didn't...he obviously did, but then, that's why. It's really obvious and doesn't need to be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:27, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.
*'''Decline''' I have trouble saying why, but I know there's something wrong with this. Be it that it's part of the haiku, or something else, I don't think this really needs to be stated. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''So cool a Decline, I thought I would Second it.''' This is a parody of the [http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_KLEZ.H&VSect=T Klez] email virus that used the infamous subject line "so cool a flash,enjoy it". It's not meant to imply that Strong Bad has actually read the email beforehand. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 08:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*** That's it. Thanks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 08:11, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Third.''' It's just part of the song. -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:26, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**''''Eh, Decline!''' This is seriously a Klez spoof. I even received a Klez email, and it gave my old computer a virus. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:05, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''So cool a decline, I thought I would THIRD it''' even! [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:29, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Oolong's Namesake====
Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for [[Combolations]] in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or [[Wikipedia:Oolong (rabbit)|Oolong the rabbit]], whose owner is Japanese.
*'''Decline.''' I figure the reference is most likely to Oolong, the traditional Chinese tea enjoyed throughout Asia. The characters mentioned here are named after the tea. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 07:49, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Always decline TTATO facts! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I would second this if I knew what TTATO stood for. (Second is NOT my vote) [[User:Fizz123|Stave it off, Fizz123, and now you can count to three.]]
**'''Decline.''' TTATO actually is supposed to be spelled TTATOT, and stands for "This, That, And That Other Thing." -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:34, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Sheds a tear''' My own little abbreviation is growing up. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:18, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*May be '''declined''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''42'd''' -- Yeah, I always suspected it refered to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oolon_Colluphid Oolon Colophid], [[Leomard Sportsinterviews|Lem Sportsinterviews']] counterpart from HHTG, so we must therefor all be wrong simultaneously :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 22:38, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====MikeMike And Matt Rock====

The credits for Mike Rock and MattMatt are references to [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt Chapman]].

*DUHHHH! DECLINANATED! [[User:Fizz123|Anonymous Contributor]]
*'''Completely Decline.''' No, seriously. Like, nobody else vote on this. -Walking Armless
*'''Comment.''' Why wasn't this just deleted? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 1:13 19 Apr 2005
*'''Accept.''' Never caught that. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:54, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*This is either something blatantly obvious or a supreme stretch. Since TBC aren't commenting either way, it's not worth the dispute. Make up your own damn mind, but don't write it down like it's the truth. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:21, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Calm yourself, Dasrik. No need for such a rant. Anyway, I say '''Accept.''' And, dasrik, it's not blatingly obvious OR a surpreme stretch. It's enough so that someone might not know it, yet not completely out-of range...exaclty the kind of thing a Fun Fact needs.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:35, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Best Decline I ever spent''' I think it is just too obvious and isn't exactly a fun fact. --[[user: lappy 486]]

===[[rampage]]===

====Jammin'====
"Number one jam" is possibly a reference to [[time capsule]].

*'''Decline.''' It's a common phrase. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 11:07, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's also mentioned in [[Everybody to the Limit]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Hmmm, could it be classified as a running gag? --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 03:16, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Possibly Decline''' grumble grumble [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:21, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.
*'''Not even'''. The first time, as far as I know, was in [[labor day]]. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:23, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Decline.''' Coach Z just kinda barely chuckles in labor day. Are there any other examples of him, well ... actually laughing ... hard? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:12, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Does it matter? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' Well, I remember thinking "Gosh, I dunno if I've ever heard Coach Z laugh before." But that's just me ... -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 04:20, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Welll....''' It says "heard" him laugh, and we don't exactly HEAR the laugh in Labor Dabor... --[[user: lappy 486]]

===[[The Li'l Brudder Show]]===

====Ugly Animation====
The animation resembles the work of [[Wikipedia:Klasky Csupo|Klasky Csupo]] (most famous for [[Wikipedia:Rugrats|Rugrats]]), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

*'''Decline''' Wha...? Obviously not! Li'l Brudder is ''supposed'' to look raggety- he was made to make someone cry! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime''' Li'l Brudder pretty much looks the way Strong Bad drew him originally. He looks odd in the skydiving sequence 'cuz he's prolly falling at near terminal velocity! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:44, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Not So Li'l Decline''' Li'l Brudder's the only one that may look "ugly" due to the addition of visible black hairs all over his body and discolored teeth. Tendafoot looks exactly like the two-legged elephant Strong Bad drew, and the Legless Parrot and Human-Nosed Possum look like animated copies of the real animal, just with the aforementioned maladies. I think TBC made Li'l Brudder "uglier" to draw more pity for everybody's favorite go-getter. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 17:01, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Here Comes li'l Second''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Withdrawn''' I posted this originally, and on closer inspection I agree that Li'l Brudder looks more like Courage the Cowardly Dog than a K C creation. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Late 360 Shove-It To Decline'd!''' I think its unintentional, but kinda true about the "ugly, but cute" part. In spite of that, I also '''Second''' all of the above. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' He looks more like something John Kricfalusi (of the Ren and Stimpy fame) would create. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''No he doesn't.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 12:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Restored discussion. Please wait 2 weeks before declaring a verdict! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I don't see any resemblance. -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:29, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second?''' Li'l Brudder skydiving ''sort of'' looks like the animation of Klasky-Csupo, but that's just it. Never reminded me of anything the first time I watched it. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Things are lookin' up!====

The title of the page and Lil' Brudder's line at the end of the toon "Things are lookin' up!" is probably a reference to the Gershwin song of the same name. (Incidentally, there's also a line in the song that says "I'm happy as a pup.")[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Comment.''' Here's a [http://www.fredastaire.net/music/lyrics/thingsarelookingup.htm link] to the lyrics. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Yea, it's the line "Oh I'm happy as a pup since love looked up at me." But...not that Lil' Brudder's in love or anything...[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Close, but Decline.''' It's just an optimism from someone who has no reason to be optimistic. I doubt that the song popularized the phrase, even if it's old. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:50, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's De Cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:24, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE'D''' It's a far stretch.--[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]] 11:26, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The only way LB can see a thing as he scrapes along is to ... well ... look up! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:18, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' There was a drawing of Lil' Brudder in the Weekly Sketchbook entitled "things are looking up!" It's more likely that they'd be referencing other content on their site. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:57, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Wait, wasn't that quote also mentioned in [[crying]]? Oh, guess not. DE CLINE!!! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 22:48, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Stretch... Stretch... Stretch... Decline.''' -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:27, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)
*'''Decline''' and, by the way, if this WAS accurate, there would be nothing "ironic" about the "happy as a pup" line, unless you use the Alanis definition of irony (ie. "any funny coincidence.") --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:50, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's true...changed it to "Incidentally."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:02, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' I think this could be a reference. It is a good fact!! --[[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[impression]]===
====What year is it?====

The form for the penmanship contest says 2004 Sectional Finals, however, the sign for the contest said 2003.

'''VERDICT:''' This goof has been accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:impression]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 16 Apr 2005
*'''ATTENTION GafAddict and Upset Your Balance and any other VERIDCTers''' - The standard voting period is 2 weeks. Please do not close any items that are newer than that that. In other words, check the first vote, if it's less than two weeks old, DON'T TOUCH IT! Also, if you're going to VERDICT an item, please sign your name and date as though you were signing a vote (two hyphens and four tildes)
**'''I think this one is a special case.''' It was STUFFed based on a false assumption. But I didn't VERDICT it, so... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***GafAddict did a few a day or so ago, and I've seen others get VERDICT'd well before the two week period. Also, whoever does it needs to sign it, so I figured I'd post it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*I have added my name and the date to the verdict. (Yes, it was me.) I'm not sure of the exact time of the verdicting though. And as Jay said, because it was STUFFed based on a false assumption, I put it back and verdicted it early. For other STUFF'd items, the VERDICT shall wait two weeks. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[dangeresque 3]]===
====Constantinople?====

The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.
*'''Decline.''' Istanbul is often used in the movies as a dangerous and exotic locale. Any resemblance to a TMBG song, living or dead, is purely coincidental. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's also [[Wikipedia:Istanbul|a real place]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Today's forecast is '''total crap.''' When will you people learn the difference between references and coincidences? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:37, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*"May be"...ugh. '''Decline''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' This fact wasn't just added to the page yesterday; it's been there for ''nine months.'' It's listed in the history as far back as you can go. Thousands of visitors to the page have already seen it and have tacitly given it their approval. The comments above make it sound like there's ''no chance'' that TBC chose Istanbul intentionally, but let me '''put it in context:''' in the few weeks leading up to this email, there were several [[Puppet_Jam:_Vitamins/Celebrities|Puppet Jams]] added to the site. Just a few weeks after the email, [[Experimental Film]] was released (so, being a song, it was likely already in the works at the time of the email). And you're telling me they ''didn't'' have TMBG on the brain? I don't think so. Too coincidental. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:41, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''I think not.''' Being on a page for a long time does not make a fact fun. It is a coincidence, 'nuff said. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' What It's dot com said. Believe me, if you listen to TMGB for too long, it's hard to think of Istanbul without mentally adding "...not Constantinople..." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:37, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Or maybe Istanbul is just a cool-sounding place and TBC weren't making a nod to TMBG. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:33, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:42, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*"I dunno about you The Ugly One, but I say this one should be '''accepted!'''" I really think so though. I agree with everybody who said it should be accepted. I've read over this debate, and do think that that whole thing's a TMBG refrence.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 21:48, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If, someday, a birdhouse shows up in a cartoon, will that be a reference to that birdhouse song? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:49, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's beside the point (although "birdhouse" is not a word that most people use every day). Just about everybody familiar with TMBG knows their song "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and identifies one with the other. I again refer you to the ''context'' of last summer (see my comments above), and considering that, I really don't think this fact is a stretch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Well, I never gave this thing any approval, tacit or otherwise. I've patrolled this page many times and everytime I read this "fact" I wrinkled my nose. I avoided STUFF-ing it because (1) unless I'm in the right mood it's tiresome and tedious and (b) I was afraid to expose my lack of hepitude. Hep or not, I still maintain this fact is based on the purest of speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' The Istanbul song is NOT originally TMBG. My google search says it was written in 1953, and it was reasonably popular before TMBG came along.
**'''Comment.''' He comes the [http://www.songlyrics.com/song-lyrics/Four_Lads/Miscellaneous/Istanbul_(not_Constantinople)/147257.html link]! Istanbul (Not Constantinople). Artists: The Four Lads ... peak Billboard position # 10 in 1953 ... Words by Jimmy Kennedy and Music by Nat Simon -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***The question isn't whether TMBG wrote the song (a ''lot'' of cover versions of songs are as popular as or more popular than their original versions, so this too is beside the point), but whether Istanbul is a reasonable reference to TMBG, and if so whether TBC might reasonably be referencing them by choosing Istanbul. On close calls like this, where the two parties have a known relationship and were demonstrably collaborating at the time, is the standard of proof ''really'' "[[Wikipedia:Burden_of_proof#Beyond_a_reasonable_doubt|beyond a reasonable doubt]]," or would a "[[Wikipedia:Burden_of_proof#Balance_of_probabilities|preponderance of the evidence]]" standard apply? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:08, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Call me Cletus if'n ya want, but, a single word on a placard does not a reference make! Now, if the sign had Constantinople crossed out with Istanbul written below it, well ... then we're talking reference! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:21, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****Aha! Now ''that's'' an argument that addresses the heart of the issue. Especially the "crossed out" part. Good prize! I'm not going to ''officially'' downgrade my vote above to neutral ('cause I don't think it will matter anyway), but, off the record, my support for including this fact is dwindling (although not gone). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Leaning towards decline.''' It may have been a SLIGHT reference, but mainly just because it's a weird sounding, yet somewhat well-known place. Hey, Istanbul was a big part of my Geography test.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:05, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Discount Flashback Warehouse====
In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad sounds a lot like Senor Cardgage. In fact, the whole easter egg resembles the Senor Cardgage Mortgage toon.
*'''Declinating the countryside, declinating the peasants...''' Of COURSE Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage sound similar - they're alternate versions of the same character. As for similarities between the two, all I see is that they're both commercials. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 11:48, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:40, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster''': After watching it a couple more times, I see that the second part is quite a stretch. As for the first part, I think I need to clarify: Strong Bad ''talks'' like Senor Cardgage, i.e. he uses a monotoneous voice. (Nice decline message tho'...) Therefore, the fun fact '''rephrased:''' In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad's style of speaking is similar to that of Senor Cardgage.
*Excardon me, but what differation does that make, Valerie? '''Decriminoted (decline).'''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*Okay, maybe it's just me, but does anybody else notice that Strong Bad's voice is kinda rasp and expressionless? That's whay I'm basing the whole thing on.
*'''Decline''' Matt Chapman can only do so many different voices, and it makes it especially hard to try and do two alternates to the same character. Strong Bad also does somewhat of a Senor Cardgage voice at the end of [[theme park]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Comment''' One might also add that both seem to have a common source. That is, the cheap television ads that small businesses create. If you somehow don't know what I'm talking about, just watch a local network for a little while, you'll see and hear plenty of dead air, gaudy graphics, poor diction, and bad acting. Actually, I don't know how you can fully appreciate Homestar Runner without having watched even that small amount of tv.
**SIGN YOUR VOTES! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***"Comment" is not a vote. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:27, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* '''D3kl1n3!!''' I didn't bother to read all this to see if somebody had already said this, but The 'Discount' bit came before 'Senor Cardgage' bit. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 02:50, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Here comes the Thnikka-Decline-Man!''' Um, its also a second with kerrek slaya, but sewiously, this did come out before [[Senor Mortgage]]. Check yer facts, folks. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:43, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster:''' Ah cwap, I did forget to check the release dates. My apologies to the hrwiki users. This might have been the wohst hundwed wohds I evoh spent.
**'''Note on the characters:''' Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage are not the same person or even alternate versions of one another. According to Strong Sad, Senor Cardgage was a real person who lived nearby the Strongs' home. Creepy Comb Over Strong Bad is a hypothetical version of Strong Bad who ''resembles'' Senor Cardgage. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:51, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''DEE-CLINE!''' Aslo note that
A) Senor Cartgage IS Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad. He's a, as Zajac said, a hypothetical version of Strong Bad.
B) Strong Bad, in this case, is bored and sad. Senor Cartgage is pretty much always bored and sad, and so, as a result of being simply a hypothetical version of Strong Bad, Senor Cardgage is going to sound like Strong Bad here.
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[replacement]]===
====Strong Mad sings====
Strong Mad says "I'M STRONG MAD," which could be a reference A Jumping Jack Contest, in which Strong Mad poses as Strong Bad and says a similar line.

'''Verdict:''' After only one week of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly and unanimously '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:replacement]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[spring cleaning]]===
====DELETED!====
The "DELETED" screen has a green background on the Tandy. When later used on the Compy, it has a blue background. It has not been used on the Lappy thusfar.

'''VERDICT:''' This information has been '''moved''' to the [[DELETED]] page. The votes have been moved to [[Talk:spring cleaning]]

===[[rampage]]===

====Poetic chops====
Ironically, while Strong Sad glorifies iambic pentameter, his creation is a pretty bad example of it. He twists the stresses on "lyric rampage," properly pronounced LY-ric RAM-page (a pair of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trochee trochees]), into ly-RIC ram-PAGE (a pair of iambs).

*'''Decline.''' I agree with what you're saying. Also, it's not much of a rampage to be reciting at a rate of 2 syllables per second. However, I don't think anyone learns anything from this fun fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait a '''Second!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny that Strong Sad has to artificially make trochees into iambs, but maybe I'm just a nerd. Anyway, I'm sure not everyone will know this, so accept! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:38, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Sign yer vote!
**'''Weak Second to a Strong Accept.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third the Nerd''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''seconding the third''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''seconding the seconding of the third of the...whatever. I agree.''' [[user:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
****'''20x6ing the 1936''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''''
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:56, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
**'''Comment''' There is already a similar fun fact on the page.
*Great jorb!
** Uh... is that a vote? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Absolutely not the case!''' I see what you're saying, but it's not the case. It's just the way he did it to the beat...you wouldn't pronounce it the same if you're doing it to a beat.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' I hate to argue with someone on my side, but: Strong Sad says in the beginning, "Iambic pentameter is where it's at!" so then he proceeds to give a line of iambic pentameter (plus one "ummmmmm" in the middle). Yes it did match the beat, but it would be more accurate to say that the beat followed an iambic metric, and because strong sad rampaged in iambs, he matched the beat (though if he had waited half a beat before starting, he could have matched the rhythm with all trochees)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 01:31, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Strong Sad, Charles Barkley, and Ruben Studdard...long lost triplets?====
Strong Bad's insult of "round mound of gray fatness" towards Strong Sad could be derived in part from the nickname of former NBA player [[Wikipedia:Charles Barkley|Charles Barkley]], the "Round Mound of Rebound." Also, Ruben Studdard, who won [[Wikipedia:American Idol|American Idol]] in 2003 and bears more than a slight resemblance to Strong Sad in shape, is sometimes known as the "Round Mound of Sound."

*'''Decline.''' Before Jay gets to it: This, that, and the other... If it's been used more than once elsewhere, it's not a specific reference, and therefore, unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:09, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** Well, this is two unrelated things, and (if it's true) exactly one of them is it, but we don't know which. Not EXACTLY the same thing as my usual "this that and the other thing" complaint -- ''but'' -- it's too much of a stretch in either case without some extra info, so I do have to agree with '''Decline'''-ing it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Barkley and Ruben don't even look alike, much less Strong Sad. 20:52, --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Comment.''' A little Googling shows that [http://www.luma-electronic.cz/lp/p/Kenny/price_k_walking.htm Kenny Price] was the first Round Mound of Sound, way back in 1969. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Is the SB's insult of the "Round Mound of [something that rhymes with round and mound]" type? Of course it is. Is it notable? Given that the reference has been around for at least 36 years, probably not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:58, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Sad is round, a mound, gray, and fat. The only thing Strong Bad's insult is a reference to is Strong Sad's appearance. Can you streeeeeeeeetch? -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:46, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Round Mound of Decline''' Does "Gray Fatness" rhyme with "Round" and "Mound?" [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Rewrite''' it into something a bit more streamlined. Something like: "'Round Mound of Fatness' is a reference to other characters such as Kenny Price, the 'Round Mound of Sound', and Charles Barkely, the 'Round Mound of Rebound'". I like this Fun Fact, though.
*'''Rewrite'''. When I watched [[rampage]] for the first time, I thought of Charles Barkley. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:30, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)
*'''Who's the dude on 21 Decline Street''' I think not- round mounds could be anything. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Secooooooooooooonddge.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:41, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Dumpy Dump sat on a wall====
Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "DJ Dumpy Dump" could be a combination reference to the rappers DJ Jazzy Jeff and Humpty Hump (who Coach Z once dressed up as for Halloween). It may also be a reference to rapper Doug E. Doug.

* '''Decline''' all but Humpty Hump - it's the only one close enough. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:02, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise''' As said above, just stick with Humpty Hump. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 20:16, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' Now then, if he was being called "DJ Dazzy Dump", I'd agree that it might also be a reference to jazzy jeff. But that's not what's going on here. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Humpty Hump is a fairly clear reference, I think.
*'''Accept''' I don't get it. It seems to me it pretty clearly a reference to DJ Jazzy Jeff. I am sure the Brothers are familiar with both. Doesn't it seem likely that they were refering to both?[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Uh... no?''' It matches Humpty Hump with about three letters' difference. It matches Jazzy Jeff with about ONE letter's similarity. Why does it have to be both? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Silly''' They both sound a lot like it, but DJ Jazzy Jeff has the 'DJ' and the exact same rhythm. It is silly to just go by the letters.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*** If it's VERY close to one and SORTA KINDA VAGUELY IN A WAY close to the other, why even entertain the sorta kinda vague one? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** DJ Jazzy Jeff is not the only rapper with 'DJ' in his name. That's not a specific reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:32, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** While this is true. I am hard pressed to think of one that sounds so much like DJ Dumpy Dump. Clearly I am losing this vote. (Although four to one is a pretty small sample. I have checked with friends here and they agree with me for what it is worth.) I really honestly believe it is a reference to both. I would be extremely surprised to find that The Brothers were not aware of how much it sounds like both of them. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Decline all.''' It's not a specific reference to any of those - it's a reference to Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "dumpus". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well, that TOO... but it's pretty close to Humpty Hump, so I wouldn't discount the reference possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***I know it was obvious - I'm just skeptical of any of these. It could also be a reference to Marky Mark, or Easy E (sic), or Flavor Flav, or... you catch my drift? Having the _____-y _____ thing for a name isn't THAT uncommon - and in this sense, if you've got people coming up with three or more '''possible''' references, well then perhaps it's not actually a specific reference, and as such, it probably shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DJ Decline''' There are more than one artist whose stage names begin with "DJ." There's no similarity between "Dumpy Dump" and "Jazzy Jeff." Go away. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' If you can't prove it, don't post it. I will say that the Dumpty Hump reference is the most likely one, especially if TBC have referred to the guy before. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''And a comment''' I'm seeing more and more people getting blunt or just plain rude with how they reject fun facts. I can appreciate this (alot of the supposed "facts" annoy me) but maybe its time the rules were revised a bit. Maybe limit the types of facts accepted or post clearer rules at the top of the page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' at least Humpty Hump. I also support keeping DJ Jazzy Jeff. Get rid of Doug E. Doug. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:59, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite.''' Ditch DJ Jazzy Jeff and Doug E. Doug.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' First thing I thought of was Jazzy Jeff... Then again, I'm rap-ly challenged. Humpty Hump for sure. [[User:SP|SP]]
*'''A digga. A digga. A diggity-DECLINED! I guess Homestar didn't stop me.''' I can think of another DJ with the same rhythm-Jazze Pha. (Pronounced Jazzy Fay) --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:33, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)
*'''Accept!!''' This is clearly a reference, especially considering the Coach Z costume part.

====Wite Wrapper====
The fact that Strong Sad's "whiteness" is acknowledged on his CD refers to famous white rappers such as [[Wikipedia:Eminem|Eminem]] and [[Wikipedia:Vanilla Ice|Vanilla Ice]].

* '''Del taco... wait...''' Hey, boys and girls, let's see how far we can streeeeeeeeetch Fun Facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:40, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' Yeah this one is really stretching.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
** '''Second to last place.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 02:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Ding!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* ... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:07, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I agree that it is a reference to white rappers. The problem with this fun fact is 1)the joke is obvious and 2)Eminem is considered to be a GOOD rapper (even though I can't stand him) while Strong Sad is meant to flop. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:42, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''I think this one is worth our time, maybe we should accept it--DECLINED!''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline''' Hold on The Cheat! We're gonna stretch this fun fact to the MOOOOOOOOOOOOOON! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:22, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline. White is the color of his face. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' based on the fact that it's common household knowledge (well, some households) as far as white wrapperas and jokes about them go.--[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Decline''' plus '''side note:''' There already is a fun fact about this on the page. Furthermore, Coach Z is some sort of Canadian/Minnisotan/New Englander/Bostonian white boy himself, and he can rap better than anyone else on the site. In addition, The Brothers Chaps seem to be pretty good at rapping (at least when they write and perform for Coach Z). --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline''' Why does the color of a rapper's skin matter? [[User:Fizz123|Someone who does not like racism]]
*'''Decline.''' It's not really like that...I think it's more of a stupid slang word for someone who doesn't rap well...It's been used so much it goes beyond being racist. (which is why Strong Bad can say it.) (So, Fizz123, it's not exactly a racist comment.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* I'm a girl. I don't understand this stuff. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**Please tell me this is sarcasm. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Yes, it is. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Uh Digga-Digga-Digga-DECLINED!''' For reasons already mentioned.
**Sign your vote. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]]

====English Lesson====
(under the ''quiver(ed)'' definition) In early Modern English, it would have been written "Quiver'd" (not to be confused with 404'D, Cerebellum'D, etc, etc.).
* '''Decline'd''' Don't worry, I wasn't confused in the slightest. Except, perhaps, as to why you made this 'fun' fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:46, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:07, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline.''' Number A, this is not interesting or relevant. Number B, how do you know Strong Bad didn't say it like Quiver'd? Quivered and quiver'd would be pronounced the same way. This shouldn't have even been STUFF'd. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:52, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**A,B,etc... are not numbers.
***You aren't a regular, are you? -Walking Armless
**Heh... good point on B, mibluvr13. I don't know why that didn't cross my mind when I STUFF'd this. Guess I was just thinking blindly about what was in the transcript without thinking about the actual toon. '''Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:01, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====I'm on a Rainbow====
Strong Bad capitalizing "Reading Rampage" in the e-mail could be an allusion to [[Wikipedia:Reading Rainbow|Reading Rainbow]], the popular 90's children reading show.
*<strike>'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:49, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)</strike>
*'''Accept/Rewrite''' I don't like the phrase "could be" in that statement. But you might be on to something there --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline''' 100% pure Florida natural SPECULATION! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline.''' How is capitializing a phrase a reference to anything? And it's still a stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**I submitted this fun fact because Strong Bad didn't capitalize any other rampages he mentioned, and looking at the phrase capitalized, it kind of looks and sounds like Reading Rainbow, at least alliteratively. It was the first (and so far only) thing that popped into my head as to why it was capitalized. Just wanted to state my case, whether or not it matters. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 17:26, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Heck no at all.''' This is a stretch and three quarters. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' That's pretty clever, actually! I like it. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Being clever is far from a prerequisite for a fun fact. Anyway, '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:13, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''SEVERE Decline!!!''' Anyone who thinks that is a reference needs to have their brain checked, no offense. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Are you kidding me? There's serious doubt. But not about whether this fact should be '''DECLINE'D!!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' If there's no certainty of the connection, it shouldn't be listed. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''VOTE CHANGE! SECOND!''' That's true, Beatfox. I think the only reason I voted yes before was because it sounded hillarious as a spoof...I mean, Reading Rainbow...Reading Rampage? Hahahahaha! Someone ought to make a flash 'toon about that![[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:45, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.'''If you do a google search for the phrase "reading rampage", you will see that there are a great many libraries in the U S of A that sponsor reading rampages! Still, I like the way you think. It's a stretch, but clearly you have a good sense of humor :)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:18, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*My Land! [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=reading+rampage Google] ''does'' show lots & '''lots''' of Reading Rampages going ORRRRF in the USA! This is more that just a stretch. The fact as written is just plain wrong. This is a real-world reference. I'm upgrading my vote to an '''Infinite Decline with a Major Rewrite.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:36, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' The rules of the STUFF'd page prohibit this type of unverified trivia. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Weak Decline''' I think that although this could be a connection, I think that it's stretching it a little. Strong Bad ''vaguely'' says it like Reading Rainbow in the e-mail, but not so much that it stands out to you. I could see why you'd say this, but I still think that you're probably incorrect. -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 4:08 PM, 15 Apr 2005
*'''New Trell''' You do happen to provide sufficient reasoning for the Reading Rainbow reference, but the past comments on Reading Rampages are also... well... I DON'T KNOW. I'M NEUTRAL, I DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING! ...Yeah [[User:SP'd|SP'd is crazy]]
*'''Decline's the limit''' Nah, 'tis a stretch. --[[User: Lappy 486]]

====Marzipan's Speech Impediment====
Marzipan seems to stutter uncharacteristically during the phrase "would be proud."
*'''Accept.''' I thought this was a rather unusual observation on a character who's normally very proficient with her speech. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:05, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' For once, I think this is legitimate. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 13:19, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It sure doesn't sound like "Geoff Chaucerbury" to me! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice this. Very nice. Clap, clap. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:53, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Because, uh, why does it need to be in Fun Facts? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:23, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' It's noted in the transcript (would be is written twice). --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 01:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' True, but it's not immediately obvious to the casual reader. It could easily be overlooked or mistaken for a typo. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:39, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Countercomment''' Dan vs. Jerome was similar in its construct - it was in the transcript but non-obvious. It was declined too. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 07:16, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:52, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a side of DECLINE!''' Sounded more like a simple flash goof to me. Nothing worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment''' Whatever it is, it's not a glitch. I checked it out in a sound editor. Not only are the two "would be's" unique, they make up one continuous phrase. There's no discontinuity in the waveform, and the tone of voice transitions seamlessly. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:14, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' -- I believe it's worth noting on a few counts. First, it's unusual for TBC to make this kind of goof. Second, it verifies what people believe they've heard. Third, it prevents people from trying to read into the dialog what's just not there (e.g. Geoff Chaucerbury). There! I doubt I swayed any of the Decliners, but I've had my say! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept '''but''' Move.''' Given that close analysis of the sound track has revealed that this is an actual occurance and not a glitch, it should be taken as valid, but perhaps would be best left as part of the transcript. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:15, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' Apparently, some less-informed person decided to correct this "typo" in the transcript. I have restored it and added an HTML comment to ward off such attempts in the future... whatever happened to the comment that was there before? In any case, we should at least have ''something'' on the page to point out this oddity. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:35, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Because''' someone changed it to "Chaucerbury", we talked about it, agreed it was wrong, and the person who changed it back didn't put back the comment. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''meh''' I dunno... it seems like a goof to me. Out of place.
*'''Comment''' Did anyone else find it funny that Marzipan stopped smiling as Homsar stopped his AaAaAaAa...? ''I'' thought that was funny.
** Yes, I noticed - but what does that have to do with this fact? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:53, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*** Nothing, that's why it was a comment. :) '''Accept''' the fact btw --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*You've been '''ACCEPTED''' into Crazy Go Nuts University!...Seriously, folks, this Fun Fact looks like it's good to go.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:45, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Pie, Anyone?====
"The pie's the limit" may be refering to Strong Bad's wednesday pie motivational talks in [[other days]].
*'''Decline.''' Just because it contains "pie" doesn't necessarily mean it's a reference. And I don't like the "may be". [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:54, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I want to accept this, I really do, but there's just not enough there there. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:58, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''I can't think of a Decline pun right now''' Well, in my opinion, it's just a play on "The Sky's The Limit." Pie is actually a pretty widely used running gag on H*R, including the pie motivational talks mentioned earlier, piemonade, etc. So if anything, this should be in some other section. [[User:SP|SP]]
*'''Decline''' Hot soup is on my eye![[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' "The pie's the limit" is a reference to the old saying "The sky's the limit." Strong Bad was just being silly by saying pie instead of sky. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*I don't know why, but when I see "may be" in a fun fact, I can see a kitten dying. '''Declinester''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' That and it violates the guidelines of good fun facts (see top of page). --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:16, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Decline, word up''' no way, just one word, obviously wrong.

====Chicken Soup for the Soul====
One of the books seen during Strong Bad's "reading rampage" is titled Soup, Right?, a reference to the "[[Wikipedia:Chicken Soup for the Soul|Chicken Soup for the Soul]]" book series.
*'''Accept'''I like Chicken Soup! You dang right it's a reference![[User: Umbertowasted|Umbertowasted]]
*'''Decline.''' Stretchy stretchy Stretch Armstrong! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:32, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:00, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I am sure this is an intentional reference.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I can see this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' They stretch you, and stretch you, and STREEEEEEEETCH you! --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' No more a stretch than the ''For Jerks'' book referencing the ''For Dummies'' ones. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Except that "Soup, Right?" doesn't sound at all like Chicken Soup for the Soul, whereas "(Topic) for Jerks" is just like "(Topic) for Dummies".
*'''Decline.''' Soup, Right? could be short for "Soup Done Right" or something like that. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 13:20, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No way, Lucy.''' Sharing one word doesn't make it a reference. Seriously, people, you're not even trying anymore. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' You're stretching! Like RB said: It's only sharing ONE word!! Come on, people!! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:29, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Not trying? Seems more like they're trying too hard. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Delete.''' There's not way that that is a reference. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:37, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I based my vote based on the fact that the books Strong Bad is reading are meant to sound like advice books. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DELORTED!''' That almost definitely doesn't have anything to do with anything. That's like saying "Sweatshirtguy" is a reference to Rocky.
*'''Insert witty DECLINE comment here''' MAJOR STRETCH! Just cause they share the same word doesn't mean they're related. Wow. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
**'''Second.''' Totally unsupported theory. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:18, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Accept''' Definately a reference
**'''Sign teh vote!''' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 00:02, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**"Definately" not. '''DECLINED''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:56, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Inclined to Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' While we're at it, "Biscuit" is a reference to "Seabiscuit."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Are you sure you didn't want to type decline? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:37, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I meant accept. Try to name other bestsellers with the words "soup" or "biscuit" in them. It seems clear to me that the titles aren't just random--they're either references to real books, real things (brown story), or HR references. The only thing that seems random to me is Strong Mad's waffle, which reads "BUG."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:18, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***I'm not convinced. It's still one word, and both words happen to be kinds of food. And I, for one, didn't even know "Seabiscuit" was a book til you mentioned it. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 00:06, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***FYI, the book "Seabiscuit" was a major bestseller even before the movie came out.
****Excuuuuse me, Princess, for being a disaffected youth. I haven't picked up anything worth reading since Hitchhiker trilogy. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And, rsl12, you're basing your crackpot theory on the fact that the words soup and biscuit appear in SBemails? Sorry, wrong. You're an idiot. Good-bye.-- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:08, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Goodbye. Hope you don't come back. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 13:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Okay, okay, enough with the insults. Agree to disagree. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I'll stop, but I don't like how some people can totally go blind in saying someone has no manners for STUFFing a fun fact. Either way, my vote is upgraded to '''Severe Decline/Delete.'''--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:11, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Duh-duh-duh-declined''' Not a reference.
*'''Not neccesarily.''' It could also be a reference to the book "Soup." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:48, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====It's a Bird, it's a Plane, it's Pie???====

"The pie's the limit" is a reference to the quote, "The sky is the limit," which is found on Thorax Corporation's website.

*'''Decline-erson''' Not only is this fact too obvious, but "The sky is the limit" is a cliché, and is not exclusive to Throax.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Well look who thinks he's Clever Dan. Wait, you're wrong, it's a reference to the Notorious B.I.G., he made a song called "Sky's the Limit" so he must've copyrighted the phrase!!!!111one Ugh...
*'''Decline x999''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Piecline.''' Sorry, that's the best I can do with this one. Why wasn't this just deleted? --- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Because I wanted to make sure it wasnt just my oppinion that this stunk.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:48, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Looks like you're not alone on this one! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Re: why this wasn't just deleted: there's a lot of fun facts on these transcripts that should just be disposed of promptly. This one I agree with. But then again, if we did that, there wouldn't be a STUFF page. And by the way, I also '''decline.''' -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:46, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE-ED!''' The sky is the limit is a popular phrase. Just because it's found on the Thorax Corp's website doesn't make it a reference. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:40, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Worst Place''' I decline it because it is so freaking obvious that if you didn't understand it the first time you must be an idiot. [[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[time capsule]]===
====Norse mythology====
The line about making people from spit may be a reference to a Norse myth, in which the Aesir (war gods) and Vanir (fertility gods), to seal a peace treaty between them, made a man (named Braugi) from their collective spit. He knew all their combined secrets, but was eventually killed by giants.
*'''Decline.''' It's more likely a reference to the fact that spit contains DNA, and it may one day be possible to clone someone from their DNA. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Third''' Coincidental. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* While I'm suprised about how much you know about Norse Mythology...'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Uh... no. While that's a very well thought-out reach, it's still a reach - the reference is to cloning from DNA. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:12, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' It's probably a reference to DNA and cloning. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:24, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* You obviously put a lot of work into this one, but unfortunately, I must '''Decrine.''' As said by other folks above, it's a reference to cloning from DNA. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:49, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept.''' This is a FUN FACT! Mind you, I highly doubt this is what TBC were trying to reference, but my life has been enriched by reading this. I would suggest rewriting it, however, to say "There is a story in Nordic mythology in which the Aesir (war gods)...." This way, there's no suggestion that TBC was trying to reference this fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No way does this work. The whole joke is based on the popular misconseption of what cloning is. Clones are genetic twins, not exact duplicates with the same minds, thoughts, and memories of the original. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:21, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Decline.''' This is NOT a fun fact. This is barely a fact. Why wasn't this one just deleted? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:54, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[pizzaz]]===
====Third Interview====
This is the third time Strong Bad has interviewed somebody. He "interviewed" [[Homsar]] (actually himself speaking for Homsar) in the email "[[interview]]" and he interviewed [[Homestar]] in the toon [[The Interview]].
*'''Accept.''' Nice one. [[User:hamrodrunner|hamrodrunner]]
*'''Decline.''' This should never have been STUFF-ed. It should have been deleted outright. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:48, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' To paraphrase a below quote, fun facts aren't made to count how many times things happen. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline to the moon''' Firsts are noteworthy... thirds aren't so much. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move/revise''' How about moving it to the Fast Forward of the "interview" e-mail and saying something like "Strong Bad also conducts interviews in [[The Interview]] and [[pizzaz]]." [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 17:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**How about not? Noting how many times Strong Bad conducts interviews isn't fun - anybody watching those e-mails can tell for themselves whether or not he's conducting interviews. And the fact that the two toons being referenced actually have the word "interview" in the title makes this one even more obvious and unnecessary. '''Declined''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:24, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Nobody cares. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Severe Decline!''' First times are somewhat interesting, second times are not, and third times are hazardous to your health.
*'''Declination Nation.''' No offense, man. I mean, you should get credit for trying, but it's just, well, boring. No one cares.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declorned.''' Nobody cares about thirds, or even seconds. First's are okay (mostly). But back to the subject, this is not a worth fun fact. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''(accept?)''' i thought it was a good fact...
*My card is totally '''D3CL1N3'D!!!''' I don't think this is worth mentioning. None of his "interviews" seem to get any information out of anyone anyway. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
====CREEPING floating DEATH flashlight====
When everyone is telling ghost stories, no one actually holds the flashlight with his or her hands. It just sort of floats in front of everyone. With Homestar, Marzipan, and the King of Town, this makes sense, since none of them have visible hands, but we should see everybody else's hands.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:Homestarloween Party]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:31, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Fhqwhgads]]===
====Not Expecting====
Fhqwhgads actually just sent the Email as a joke. It was not intended to be used. However, Fhqwhgads, whose personal information will not be revealed because of a request not to, did say this in an AIM conversation: "I didn't spoof a virus. I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." If you don't believe this, you can contact him-his AIM screename is IamFHQWHGADS142. (He has pride that he is Fhqwhgads) -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]]

'''VERDICT:''' This item was closed on request by the author. See below for a new version of this fun fact. Voting moved to [[Talk:Fhqwhgads]]--[[User:-erson|<nowiki>Posted by </nowiki>-erson]] 01:27, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====The joke theory====
- (An outcome of "Not Expecting")
- It's been theorized that this [that the email was a spoof of the "i love you" virus] is not true. A person claiming to be Fhqwhgads said he actually just sent the Email as a joke, and that it was not intended to be used. "I didn't spoof a virus," he said, "I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." However, due to a concern about personal provacy, he would not give any information. -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:36, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Still Decline''' Next thing you know the Wiki will be flooded with kids claiming to have their own story about why they e-mailed Strong Bad. Too much speculation, no real way to prove any of it. Its bad enough that we have people thinking they can get their fun facts in by putting "It may be" or "Its possible that" in with them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:33, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''2nd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:02, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I can see how we wouldn't want to let this get out of hand, but we're fighting a problem we don't even have. If people were going to randomly and falsely claim to be email authors, I think they'd already be doing it. Plus, we're not talking about accepting ''all'' such claims; we're only concerned here with ''this'' case (and if the Supreme Court of the United States can make a ruling while at the same time declaring that it ''doesn't'' set precedent, so can we). Lastly, I think TK genuinely believes to be in contact with ''the'' fhqwhgads, and that should carry some weight. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:54, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Thank you. And I assure everyone here: neither I nor any of my comrades (including Fwh) is anywhere near crazy. ^_^ In fact, I really hate nonevident and irrational claims, and I most certainly would not want the wiki to be flooded with them! But I seriously know THE Fhqwhgads -TK
*Well I genuinly think that I'm in contact with people who can't get my point. It could be true yes but he can't prove it so it shouldn't go up in any way shape or form. No different than any other fun fact that needs proof to be accepted. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline-erson''' Is it not possible that this potential AIM'er could be a fake, just claiming to be Fwh but not him truely? And, if it was the true Fwh, than wouldnt it make sence that his AIM name (IamFHQWHGADS142) wouldnt have numbers at the end, as the real Fwh would probably be the first person to make such a name and wouldnt require the numbers at the end of it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 12:45, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's NOT the Fun Fact in question. You're thinking of "Not expecting." This is different! Plus lemee just clarify this: in order to fully understand the esscense of THIS fact, you gotta forget it even HAD a predescessor (and all the information included in that one.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Well than, how did you get that information and those quotes? By talking to a person on AIM. How do you know that person was the real Fwh? You dont! Still '''Decline'''. --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:27, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' The person COULD have just wanted numbers in his screename. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 20:21, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Exactly! You tryin to say I should just be TakuaKaita? A little insulting. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]]
**'''Comment.''' The real Fwh would not have made an AIM name before writing the e-mail because it was random banging on the keyboard. Only once the e-mail had become famous would s/he have made that name. By that time, someone else likely took the AIM name first, forcing the real Fwh to add numbers.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Both versions hinge upon a quote from the purported foogoograss. The quote is impossible to verify. As a result, both fact and theory should be rejected. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:41, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Which is why "claimed" is used...look you gous are missing the point...the point is it wasn't based on the virus, not that I know Fwh. Besides, if proof is all you guys seem to care about, what "proof" do we have that it WAS based on the virus?[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:45, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno, maybe the large Scare that passed during the same time this email was released? It could be an influence considering it wason every news station across the land. I mean honestly... And note: in order for it to be a fun '''fact''', it needs proof. Its not a fact without it! --[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.'''You're right. There is no proof. Frankly, I think the "virus" theory should be deleted/stuff-ed. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:30, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No proof, no fun fact in my opinion. If it requires furthur input, then let me say this. If it were me who sent the e-mail, I wouldn't go off and register a new AIM, e-mail or whatever, I'd just keep my own. However, I do disagree with the number theory. Maybe the numbers had significance. But anyway, there's no way to prove it so it can't be claimed a fact. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[date]]===
====Ren & Stimpy XR====
The logo for the Extra Real Dating Sim XR is based on the logo for the Nickelodeon cartoon "Ren & Stimpy".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:date]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:04, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the show]] ===
====Homestar's "Arms"====
Unless Homestar is holding the microphone under his armpit when he is reciting his list, this is another one of those times when it's questionable as to how many invisible arms he has: he holds the microphone in one hand, his cards in the other, and flips them over each other all at the same time.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:the show]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 12:15, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[suntan]] ===
====Marzipan's Parasol====
Marzipan is carrying a toothpick parasol one would normally receive with a tropical drink, only hers seems to be much larger than normal. Except that tropical drink parasols are modelled after real parasols . . . which are, you know, real . . .

''After a week of unanimous declines, this Fun Fact has been closed. The votes for this fun fact can be seen at the [[Talk:suntan|talk page]] of suntan.

=== [[local news]] ===
====Scalawag====
"Scalawag" may possibly be a reference to a Calvin and Hobbes strip in which Calvin and Hobbes sing the "Very Sorry Song" :
:(Calvin) "I'm sorry, so sorry I took your precious flaaaaag"
:(Hobbes) "Just don't do it again you scurvy scalawaaaaaag"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:local news]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[brianrietta]] ===
==== "Tough Guys"? ====
This is the only reference to homosexuality in the entire site, '''and thankfully Strong Bad handled it more maturely than most "tough guys" would have.'''

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, the majority of votes said to '''Decline''' this fact outright. Discussion moved to [[Talk:brianrietta]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:09, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Hom Sar Ref====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:00, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Trial Game origin====

The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====False Advertising====

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- tomstiff 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Special Appearance====
Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.

''After a week of unanimous declines, this fun fact has been rejected. You can see the votes at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].

====Whats Her Face's lack of appearance====

For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:54, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio====

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:22, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Tall homestar?====
In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Updated for the 90's====
Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:17, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]===
====Sweating====
Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:51, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====X-Pensive Winos====
The text "X-PENSIVE W..." appearing on Strong Bad's 'light pen' before he shakes it up may be a reference to Rolling Stones guitarist [[Wikipedia:Keith Richards|Keith Richards']] solo band the X-Pensive Winos.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:59, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Rodeo Hot Dogs====
"Rodeo Hot dogs" is a reference to the old Oscar Meyer mascot.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:56, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

'''Verdict:''' After almost a month of voting, this fact was voted to be '''Moved''' from Goofs to Remarks on [[long pants]]. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:long pants]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Bedroom Window====
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

'''Verdict:''' After almost a month of voting, this fact was '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 12:43, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Breaking the Lappy====
Strong Bad indicates that The Cheat has a history of breaking the Lappy. Perhaps The Cheat demonstrated this tendency with the Compy 386 as well. This may explain why the Compy apparently bore a grudge against The Cheat, as demonstrated in [[couch patch]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[techno]]===
====Silent J====
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:techno]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[the bet]]===
====Forgotten Lie====
Strong bad says in the King of Town DVD that the King does not live in a castle. However, in this email he seems to have forgotten all about it.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad does things like this frequently, and it's not the first time he's lied about something, i.e. The Cheat not having a computer in [[huttah!]] -Walking Armless
*'''Rewrite and accept.''' The idea's there, but it's a little wordy. Cut it down maybe to something like "Strong Bad said in the DVD that he didn't have a castle, but aspparently he does here."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:06, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not only does Strong Bad have a penchant for lying, but this isn't even the first time after the KoT DVD that we've seen or heard about the KoT's castle. Check 3 Times Halloween Funjob or 'Tis True, Pom Pom, 'Tis True (the latter was unreleased until recently but was clearly started long before this email), as well as a few other 'toons. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:07, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:56, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I disagree that anything noted as "so far" is bad (though "this is the first time" is usually more appropriate.) However, this fact isn't totally true as stated, so '''Rewrite and accept''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Cory====
The painting marked "Cory" is most likely a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]].

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:That A Ghost]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 21:48, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

*Keep '''Mr. Mxyzptlk''' and '''The Great Gazoo'''. Scrap the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' The "Great Gazoo" bit is DEFINITELY a reference as the cartoon is a parody of Hanna Barbera cartoons. I'm not so certain about Mr. Mxyzptlk, but I do agree that it's a valid reference. However, I think Gazoo should come first, as per the Flintstones parody. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Just did a little checking - Gazoo first appeared in 1964, while Mr. Mxyzptlk first appeared in 1987, as did Q (on the pilot of ST:TNG). Gazoo should be first in the fact as he's first chronologically, and while I'm still iffy about Mxyzptlk being included, seeing as how the title of the episode "Encounter at Groupulon 5" is a reference to the pilot of ST:TNG, I think the Q reference is definitely valid. Mighty Max is a huge stretch, though the hat and the "muddle me twice" line definitely seem to point to a Riddler reference. John Bozar seems to be an amalgam of all of them - this may be a TTATOT fact, but for once, there's a basis for it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' According to Wikipedia, [[Wikipedia:Mr._Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]] was introduced in 1944. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Comment.''' My bad - I didn't realize he was THAT old. Curse the internet for diseminating false information! In any case, I still think he's an amalgam of Mxyzptlk, Gazoo, Q, and Riddler - but then we get into TTATOT territory. Still, with this being an OBVIOUS Hanna Barbera parody, I think Gazoo should take precedence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:25, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I thought we'd already declined this TTATOT fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:50, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Actually Jay, I think we declined the fact about the guy with the metal jaw, not Bozar. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:54, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Albi refs Abdi?? ====
Strong calls the author of the email Albi, which is a reference to the author of the first email, [[some kinda robot]], who was named Abdi.

*'''Decline.''' Albi is short for Albin, not a reference to Abdi. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Yep. Yep. Yeap. Second.''' -Walking Armless
**'''Threecond.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*...urge to kill...rising... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Guitar throw refs [[invisibility]]?? ====
When Space Gary throws his guitar and says "I guess I won't be needing THIS anymore," it is a reference to [[invisibility]]. Strong Bad says the same thing when he gets rid of the broken [[Tandy 400]] and replaces it with the [[Compy 386]].

*'''Decline.''' Inflection is different, throwing is different than knocking off the desk, and the line isn't even the same ("And don't need THIS anymore"). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Go TheEggman!!''' Uh... I mean '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:56, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's a common phrase. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:14, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Oh please... are you surfing HR.com randomly looking for things to correlate? '''Decline!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:12, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== rrll == grrl ?? ====
The use of "rrll rrll" is probably the latest version of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]."

*'''Decline.''' The latest version, what? "rrll" is for "real", "grrl" is for "girl" - what's the relation, besides not using any vowels? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''¡Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:53, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Segundo.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:34, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*It's not even worth it to be sarcastic. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''One less than Third'''

==== Rudiments ====
"rrll rrll" is a common short-hand notation for a [http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments/06longroll.html double-stroke roll], which is a percussion rudiment executed by playing two strokes on a single hand followed by two in the alternate hand and repeating.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:07, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

'''Vredict:''' This fact was voted to be '''Rewritten and Moved'''. The revised fact now appears on [[best thing]], while the discussion can be found at [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:44, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold was in question)

'''Verdict:''' After about a month of voting, the fact in bold was narrowly '''declined''' by a score of 2-3. The Star Trek reference has been put back on [[best thing]], while the entire discussion can be found on [[Talk:best thing]]. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:colonization]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:dragon]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:18, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

-Edited by [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]. (Link was to [[rock opera]], not dragon)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:36, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

'''Verdict:''' After almost two months of voting, this fact recieved a single '''Decline''' vote. Discussion moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:45, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''Verdict:''' After almost two months of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Where's The Cheat?]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:56, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== You killed Pom-Pom! ====
When storng bad said he killed pom-pom it may be a reference to south park and them "killing Kenny"

*'''Decline''' Uh...no. "Storng" Bad was just trying to scare Marzipan with a crank call. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:36, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unmatchable Decline''' Spell right, blast ye! -Walking Armless
*'''Delcine.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*You may be a reference to the superfluousness of the Shift Key... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Indelible Cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' First thing, this was disqualified with the "may be." Second off, no flippin' way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*'''OMG WHAT WERE YOU THINKING''' This is the worst fact i have ever heard. You thing every time somebody says they killed somebody it means it was referencing to Kenny? Declined as delined can be.
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, or it could be reference to any other cartoon that once used the word "kill"! I bet you just wanted South Park to be mentioned on this site. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:40, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' If he always pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"? Just saying... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Almost everyone is saying that this is common. But really - other than "pimecone" and "pamcake", when has Homestar EVER switched Ms and Ns? I can't think of even one other time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Accurate, but not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:38, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move?''' Perhaps this would be worth noting in Homestar's character page?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:56, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' What, nobody can answer my question? Then this fact is very likely TRUE! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:31, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move.''' Substituting 'm' for 'n' may be a running gag... Leomard Sportsinterviews, anyone? --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:28, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:20, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:The Best Decemberween Ever]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:21, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk: Kick the Can]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' by a score of 4-6. Discussion moved to [[Talk:other days]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:27, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Pizzle the Nizzle ====
The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:other days]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:55, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

'''VERDICT:''' This fun fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:24, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:20, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Comment''' Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]]
*'''I decline thee! *smack*''' Homsar came back after being crushed by Heavy Lourde. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 16:08, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' If you applied this to TGS, they wouldn't have lasted 8 issues! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I dunno abput this one... it is true, but the way it is said, i just don't know.

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:02, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:12, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' They probably decided on "frickin'" for the same reason Fricker's did: it sounds like "chicken". --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Here's a [http://www.frickers.com/locations.asp Frickin'] link!
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Decline, the word "frickin'" used before "wings" means nothing to me. Are there even Frickers' in Antlanta?

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_4]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Decemberween_Teen_Girl_Squad]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Fatty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.
*'''Decline.''' The names look the same. The characters do not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''OT Comment (wasn't sure where to put this).''' Tomstiff, when you make an edit, you might want to try writing your summary after the asterisk-slash rather than before it. Otherwise, when you click on the entry's arrow on the history page, it won't take you to the proper section on the (rather lengthy) STUFF page. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:43, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Big Fat Decline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:45, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*"insert-random-flash-only-you-know-about" is not a valid source for TBC to reference. '''Hup Hup, Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:32, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I remember reading TBC don't watch other flash cartoons. I'll put a link to the interview here as soon as I find it. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:47, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Just the word Fatty, I don't think so.

====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:08, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:15, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** kerrek, vote in your post correctly, or your signature doesn't count.
*** anony, stfu with your sarcasm correctly, or your misplaced humor doesn't count. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 08:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Everybody, shuttup, or this fist in your face will count, at... breaking... your teeeth..
BTW, '''Declined''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Dreamail doesn't have a back button either. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:15, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

'''VERDICT''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:island]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:47, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:island]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:2 years]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:2 years]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:44, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:55, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

'''Verdict:''' After several months of voting, this fact was narrowly '''Accepted''' by a score of 3-2. The fact is now on [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], while the discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:00, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Slippers ====
Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:48, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''-- [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.
*Using a rusty stake knife does not make him a blade man, man. '''Declined man, man.''' [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless
**'''Decline for the pudgy.''' What the armless guy said. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' I think that is just Homsar-ness. --[[User:Lappy 486]]

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1 after several weeks of voting, this item is accepted. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinio''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Since there is a staircase next to Homestr's room, either his room is on the second floor or he has a basement." That should take care of any confusion.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That is about as obvious as saying "if there is a building with 5 floors and you go to the top floor, you are on the 5th floor." [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

'''Verdict:''' After many weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' as the re-written version below. The re-write now appears on [[animal]], and the discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 22:34, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:27, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:03, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.
*'''Decline''' There, you just said it yourself. Shortly ''>>'''AFTER'''<<'' the release of this e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.
*'''Decline.''' It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says. And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''No no no.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.
*'''Decline.''' Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Dr. Decline.''' An eyepatch is a common accessory for villains. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:35, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Weak Accept.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept, Second''' I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
*<strike>'''Actual Decline.'''</strike> All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! <strike>I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds.</strike> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I'd agree if just ''one'' CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they ''all'' have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh*''' Oh, great. Now ''I'm'' undecided, too. What's the real issue here? Is the shape there? Yes. Is it pretty well-formed? Yes. Did TBC put it there intentionally? I say no, but admittedly that's just a gut feeling. And you never know with those guys. So, as a straight "didja' notice?" fact, I'm persuaded to change my vote to '''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:06, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Definite Accept''' Also, the reason they All have the spot is that the Cheat Commandos are carbon copies of one image(with accessories, facial hair, etc.). Plus, Mickey's head would be in color; The Mickey logo, however, is the solid black tri-circle seen on the CC's. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' I mean, ''I'' think it's interesting... --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:41, 13 Apr 2005
*'''<strike>Kevin 'Cline''' It's just a dot. It may be in that shape, but it's definitely unintentional. I mean, do you ever intentionally draw your dots in the shape of Mickey Mouse heads?</strike> Eh. I'm neutralizing. And gasp at the below comment. (EDIT) Ouch. Just struck out everything. Damn slash. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Weak Decline.''' Google search for Hidden Mickeys if you're interested in the time-honored tradition for Disney artists to hide Mickey heads in everything they can get their hands on. That being said, he Mickey head I see on the Commandos is fairly deformed. The ears are too small and too close together, for instance. Since this probably wouldn't pass muster for a Hidden Mickey, I'm giving a pass on this fact. (and for SP, yes I do draw my dots in the shape of Mickey heads!) <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 00:42, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Revise Slightly.''' "All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking that looks like the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg." Fun, kind of interesting, and true, even if it wasn't on purpose!--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I think it is just the shape of the spot. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Acceptinated!''' I see it, and it's still kinda interesting, even if it wasn't intentional. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 07:05, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

*'''Accept.''' It says "ages 3-5" quite clearly at the bottom right of each action figure package. Why was this STUFF-ed? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 03:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''What? Undelete it! Undelete it!''' Do something! Do anything! *ahem* Accept. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:23, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag. <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either. <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I think it is just a joke Strong Bad made up for the montage. He didn't really go out with a wagon fulla pancakes, did he? [[User: Lappy 486]]

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' by a score of 4-2. The fact has been re-posted on [[Strong Sad's Lament]], and the discussion can be found on [[Talk:Strong Sad's Lament]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*Not the first. I know, [[homsar]], [[homsar]]. But his message is longer than "Yeah, what is it Strong Bad?". Maybe with some rewording? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline, or severe rewrite.''' Given the fact that this could become false in the future, as well as the item's subjective opinion, this one shouldn't be included. And what about "Hey Reggie, is that rhinocerous around?" That's a legible sentence - in fact, everything he says is legible. It just doesn't make any sense. Possibly the word you're looking for is "intelligible" or something along the lines of "Homsar's message makes the most sense out of anything he has ever said." But again, you're dealing with the "could be become false later" issue. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:15, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:26, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept'''. Very noteworthy. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 02:00, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Opinion ("the most...ever") I don't think a rewrite would solve much. --[[User:The Paper|THE PAPER]] 16:42, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Severe Decline with a Complete Rewrite''' Is it noteworthy? Yes ... yes it is. Is it the most legible thing he's ever said? Dunno, I've never seen the Haddi-man's handwriting. It may be the most intelligible thing he's ever said ... to date. That's what makes this a bad fact: Homsar could become the most erudite cast member tomorrow. To quote from [http://www.ibras.dk/montypython/episode23.htm#3 Scott of the Sahara]...Rewrite! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:59, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I'm assuming this message was made in response to [[homsar]] to bring Homsar back since he was supposedly "killed". Also, since he was relatively new as a character, he wasn't as of yet uniquely nonsensical, as he is now. I'm believin' that's the reason this is the most legible thing he has ever written...I mean, said. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 02:02, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Yes, I meant intelligable, not legible. I forgot the word. I meant it makes sense the most. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:55, 16 April 2005 (MDT)
**Not to super nitpick, but the best word to use would probably be "sensible", since intelligible is just the ability to say words and sentences. He says stuff just fine, it just never makes any sense. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 03:07, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''"That's a real popular song! Who want's to hear that it's ACCEPTED!"''' Yep, I think this is a good point! Great job! *claps*--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 23:50, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Same thing that GillanTheVillain said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:31, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I thought that too, it was really insane. Thumbs Up! --[[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 10:57, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Why was this STUFF'd? It's demonstrably true, and it's something most people wouldn't notice just by watching the 'toon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:40, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''2nd''' place. Ding! --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Answer''' Unless I'm missing something, it wasn't actually deleted from the 'toon in question - apparently, VC added it directly here. Which is technically how STUFF is SUPPOSED to work, but nobody uses it that way. ;) Anyway, this one is true enough that it could have been directly added and no one would have batted an eye, so '''Accept'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:35, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Mistah Hippo says Accept!''' By the way, I use STUFF that way. o.o --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:28, 23 Apr 2005

==Games==
===[[Thy Dungeonman]]===
====Earthbound====
Dungeonman might be a reference to Brick Road from "Earthbound," who was attempting to attain the title of "Dungeonman" throughout the course of the game.
*'''Decline''' Why, you ask? Let me explain the Dungeonman of Earthbound for a minute. The man attempts to MAKE dungeons, and in the end BECOMES a dungeon - which is not the same as Thy Dungeonman, who merely EXPLORES dungeons. And with no other connection, I can't let this one sit without a vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*(drops potato sacks) NO, IT'S NOT. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 10:57, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===
====Two names?====
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.
*'''Fhqwdlcinds''' So??? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So, rather dashing's real name name is Julio. Good catch! Just '''revise''' it so that its a little more obvious. Try:
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in
Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.
--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Me Declino Infinito.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:09, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''REWRITE'D!''' I was the one who wrote the thing anyway, so I rewrote it with -erson-san's suggestion. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:09, 14 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline the new one too''' It's still useless, and perhaps now moreso - are we next going to say that his name is Misspeller Jones? (Type "get plague" near the lantern.) It's a joke. Just go with it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' But, it might NOT be. Geez, why does everyone always decline everything around here? --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 10:45, 16 Apr 2005
*** Oh, wait, what was that word? "Might"? As in, you're not certain? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:08, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But the fact that Rather Dashing is saying "Me llamo Julio" as a conversation starter to the Kerrek would be a different case. Do you ever say "Hello my name is..." and mention an incorrect name? And about the "Misspeller Jones", is it not common for people to make up nicknames for people about their different characteristics? Like you call a clumbsy person "Butterfingers" even though his real name is Bob, or a bad typist "Misspeller Jones" even though his real name is Julio? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:34, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****It sounds to me like the sort of thing you'd find in the first five pages of a beginners' Spanish textbook, and without otherwise knowing what to say to the Kerrek, he just rambled relative nonsense. We know his real name, and it's not Julio. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:06, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******We dont ''know'' that his real name is Rather Dashing, the character doesn't actually say it himself. Just the narrator. And whos more likely to know his own name, the narrator or Rather Dashing? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 02:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*******So, at the end of the game, the NARRATOR tells Trogdor (who repeats it - in voice acting!) that his name is Rather Dashing? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:17, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
********Sorry, I never played to the end of the game. But honeslty, what are the odds that if he was talking nonsence he would utter a phrase that just happens to be a very popular opening statement when meeting new people? And, there is no where in the game where it tells you Rather Dashing can't speak Spanish. Perhaps he though Kerrek spoke spanish.
*********Yes, I just double-checked the ending. The narration says "You scream that your name is Rather Dashing", followed by a long speech with a computer voice reading along (a direct quote by Trogdor), ending in "It will be a pleasure to burninate you, Rather Dashing." One random piece of text may give small credence to your theory that RD's real name is Julio, but the entire rest of the game contradicts it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:24, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Perhaps a rewrite than to indiciate that Rather Dashing's name may be Julio according to that text?--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 02:31, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I don't think Fun Facts is a place for theories that "may be" true based on a possible interpretation of one statement. '''Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:30, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yet Another Comment.''' We all know that "rather dashing" is a term meaning you're good-looking. Maybe he just calls himself that because he thinks he's, well, good-looking. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:41, 17 Apr 2005 (EST)
*How do we know he just didn't read that off of a Spanish textbook? It's just as much speculation to say that Rather Dashing CAN speak Spanish as it is to say he can't. Can't you just accept that this is random TBC humor? Seriously, this is a bigger stretch than Dhalsim. '''Me llamo decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment Numero Tres.''' Look, we're never going to get anywhere like this, and I'm sick of the arguments. Someone lock this thing, PLEASE. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:53, 19 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' Throughout all of the Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer, Rather Dashing is referred to as ... Rather Dashing. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:25, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting this item was unanimously declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:53, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

'''Verdict:''' After several weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 23:09, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I think it is pretty much already stated. --[[User: Lappy 486]]

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. '''All Your Second Are Belong To Us''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Black Spots====
Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

*'''Decline''' Maybe if I understood what this was saying I might like it more, but it still doesn't seem right. What do you guys think? -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declininated''' I don't get it. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:10, 19 Apr 2005
*'''Allow me''' I THINK what is being said is this:
The black portion of Stinkoman's mask is missing in his sprite form, because
it is a ripoff of Megaman sprites.
*However, this is pretty useless AND false (it's not a ripoff of Megaman sprites, just strongly based on them.) Most old, small sprites lack detail seen in their fully-drawn form. So I must concur with '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And you can't see Mario's nostrils in Super Mario Bros. So? '''Let's Declining Love''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you asking for a Decline?!?''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]
*'''Decline''' I'd agree with you, but there's proof that says otherwise.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:11, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
=== Cross-Toon Facts ===
==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1, this item is declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:The discussion can be found at the [[HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts_Archive#Parents_.28declined.29|STUFF Archive]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:57, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2005-04-25T03:13:45Z

GregHosting: /* Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
===[[best thing]]===

====limozeen====
Limozeen: But they're in space is almost a direct reference to the flopped saturday morning show Josie and the Pussy Cats in space.

*'''Definite Rewrite.''' Try again. It IS a direct reference. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 01:52, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Should not be on the STUFF page.''' Another version of this fact already went through the STUFF process and can be seen under the "Explanations" heading in [[best thing]]. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:02, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''CONCUR'D''' Once and only once applies to STUFF as well. Sorry. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:54, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[couch patch]]===

====Computer miscommunications====
At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

*'''Revise.''' Uhh...I ''sort of'' catch your meaning. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 04:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Most dictionaries list it as one word: ''[[Wikipedia:crosstalk|crosstalk]].'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Just say "Crosstalk referes to the transient...etc". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise''' You can use this or not, I don't care, but when he said "cross talk," I always assumed it meant something more along the lines of "sassin' back", or being generally argumentative and uncooperative. But if that means what you said it means, then that could be a reference, too. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 05:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I assumed that as well. And yes, "crosstalk" DOES mean that, but I don't think it applies here - I think it's just an odd coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise.''' Should go something like this: --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 14:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) 
<pre>At the beginning of the e-mail, Strong Bad tells the Compy not to give him any crosstalk. Crosstalk is when a signal transmitted
on two parallel wires creates an undesired effect (in this case, the Compy saying, "Cut it out, you."</pre>

===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
====A legendary voice, you screech?====
The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Un-second''' Do you realize that you just said it's obviously a '''PARODY''', when the fun-fact-adder said reference? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 
*My first-ever '''accept'''. You can't imitate the voice of a cartoon character without imitating the actor who voiced it. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Arrgh!!''' You acceptors don't get it. They. Are. Making. Fun. Of. Cobra. Commander. It doesn't matter WHO DID THE VOICE. Its not an homage, its NOT a reference, its a PARODY of another cartoon character. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I don't always agree with Donny, but he got it right on the head here. I did NOT say that it was a reference to the guys voice. I STUFF'd it because it's just a parody. Nothing more. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Right On!''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Pom-Pom, my dawg, SECOND Place''' Definitely a parody. Read a dictionary, find parody. Write it down. Look up reference. Write it down. Did you write the same thing? Of course not. Now, which one pertains to the [[Blue Laser Commander]] voice? Parody. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] Apr 2005
*Fine. You guys win.
The Blue Laser Commander's voice is a parody of the voice
of the Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe, which was done by the
late Chris Latta.
*Does THAT work? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Well then we better go through and list all the specifics of other real world references. Bah. '''still decline''' All thats important is that its a joke on G.I Joe. Anything else added is just dross. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Which would be a valid point, if we were talking about a general Cheat Commandos page. But, since we already give direct references to specific G.I. Joe characters on other individual Cheat Commando character pages, and this IS an individual Cheat Commando character page, I don't see that applying. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Right, we already established that its a joke on Cobra Commander. It isn't though, a reference to the guy who does his voice. There is no reason to list voice over artists on this wiki. Just post a link to a G.I Joe page and let people find the info for themselves. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****'''Fair enough''' Some comments made it look like the whole fact was being removed - reference to Cobra Commander and everything (check ISTK's first vote). As long the basic fact stays, I suppose it IS superfluous to include the VA's name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No special comment this time, just Accept''' Well, it IS based on G.I. Joe. Ma' favorite show. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 22:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nuetral'''So what your saying if 1-Up got aroused by pudding?[[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' Note the commentary for [[japanese cartoon]]. Matt, when discussing displays of emotion and the like in anime, mentions the mushrooms AND 'the snot bubble', the only one of which on the site is 1-Up's, showing that it is indeed a snot bubble. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''WITHDRAWN''' Wow, you guys are very literal. I guess there is no convincing some. I was the one who posted this on the article so I cheerfully withdraw it. Do what ever you STUFF people do to document and archive this. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**What, why? I like it, but I think it needs to be '''Rewritten.''' I think it's a runny nose, but yes, it is reffering to animé, and it should be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
====Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F====
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

*'''Decline.''' He could be saying something like "freakin' crap". --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 11:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
** '''Second''' ----

*'''Wait a minute...''' Wasn't this already STUFF'D? Or am I imagining things? Either way, I decline. I'm pretty sure everyone could guess what Strong Bad was going to type. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 12:36, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seems pretty out of character (at least in hindsight) for both SB and TBC -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it was deliberate. Remember when Strong Bad shouted, "Screw all y'all!" in [[sb_email 22]]? I wouldn't call it out of character. However, TBC seems to have toned down the just barely borderline vulgar humor since the old emails in order to make the site more kid-friendly. That's just my opinion though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:50, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I always understood it as a humorous almost-usage of the F-word. This kind of gag is pretty common, even occurring in G-rated movies such as ''The Lion King'' and ''Finding Nemo''. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Heh, yeah, I know what you're talking about. "Why do I always have to save your AHHHHHHH!" "Don't you all realize we're swimming in our own--" "Shhh!" --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 1:10, 21 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' TBC have a no swearing policy. Boarderline swears are just jokes. Plus this is a speculatory "fact". The "f" could have been for anything. And "presumably" is just another way to say "may be". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Probably right, but who needs a fun fact to tell them this? It's as useful as saying, "When strongbad does this and this, he's making fun of the grammar in the e-mail."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I agree with Upset Your Balance et al. in that I think it was deliberate, but isn't it pretty obvious? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:35, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Everything is as it was. Not sure why this was removed after just one day of voting. '''NOTE:''' please allow 2 weeks of voting before declaring a verdict! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Strong Bad almost said the F-word, everyone who knows about the F-word can figure that out we don't need something to tell us about it. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.''' I think what The_Pardack said pretty much summed it up. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 03:13, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Accept.''' It is true that anyone can figure out, but TBC don't usually curse. I think this is the closest we're going to get. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:10, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Nope....''' I don't think this needs to be a fun fact at all... i think it was just a joke for the email, not a fact or anything.
*'''DECLINE'd!!!''' Not because he didn't...he obviously did, but then, that's why. It's really obvious and doesn't need to be noted.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:27, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.
*'''Decline''' I have trouble saying why, but I know there's something wrong with this. Be it that it's part of the haiku, or something else, I don't think this really needs to be stated. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''So cool a Decline, I thought I would Second it.''' This is a parody of the [http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_KLEZ.H&VSect=T Klez] email virus that used the infamous subject line "so cool a flash,enjoy it". It's not meant to imply that Strong Bad has actually read the email beforehand. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 08:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*** That's it. Thanks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 08:11, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Third.''' It's just part of the song. -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:26, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**''''Eh, Decline!''' This is seriously a Klez spoof. I even received a Klez email, and it gave my old computer a virus. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:05, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''So cool a decline, I thought I would THIRD it''' even! [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:29, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Oolong's Namesake====
Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for [[Combolations]] in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or [[Wikipedia:Oolong (rabbit)|Oolong the rabbit]], whose owner is Japanese.
*'''Decline.''' I figure the reference is most likely to Oolong, the traditional Chinese tea enjoyed throughout Asia. The characters mentioned here are named after the tea. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 07:49, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Always decline TTATO facts! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I would second this if I knew what TTATO stood for. (Second is NOT my vote) [[User:Fizz123|Stave it off, Fizz123, and now you can count to three.]]
**'''Decline.''' TTATO actually is supposed to be spelled TTATOT, and stands for "This, That, And That Other Thing." -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:34, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Sheds a tear''' My own little abbreviation is growing up. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:18, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*May be '''declined''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''42'd''' -- Yeah, I always suspected it refered to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oolon_Colluphid Oolon Colophid], [[Leomard Sportsinterviews|Lem Sportsinterviews']] counterpart from HHTG, so we must therefor all be wrong simultaneously :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 22:38, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====MikeMike And Matt Rock====

The credits for Mike Rock and MattMatt are references to [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt Chapman]].

*DUHHHH! DECLINANATED! [[User:Fizz123|Anonymous Contributor]]
*'''Completely Decline.''' No, seriously. Like, nobody else vote on this. -Walking Armless
*'''Comment.''' Why wasn't this just deleted? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 1:13 19 Apr 2005
*'''Accept.''' Never caught that. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:54, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*This is either something blatantly obvious or a supreme stretch. Since TBC aren't commenting either way, it's not worth the dispute. Make up your own damn mind, but don't write it down like it's the truth. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:21, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Calm yourself, Dasrik. No need for such a rant. Anyway, I say '''Accept.''' And, dasrik, it's not blatingly obvious OR a surpreme stretch. It's enough so that someone might not know it, yet not completely out-of range...exaclty the kind of thing a Fun Fact needs.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:35, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Best Decline I ever spent''' I think it is just too obvious and isn't exactly a fun fact. --[[user: lappy 486]]

===[[rampage]]===

====Jammin'====
"Number one jam" is possibly a reference to [[time capsule]].

*'''Decline.''' It's a common phrase. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 11:07, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's also mentioned in [[Everybody to the Limit]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:49, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Possibly Decline''' grumble grumble [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:21, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*'''Accept i guess''' It isn't often a big guy chases a little yellow guy yelling "my panties!" I think it is a reference. --[[user: Lappy 486]]
*Uh... did you just vote for and against the same fact? (Anyway, as this is already on the page, it shouldn't be voted for.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' This doesn't even belong in STUFF. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 07:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Laugh and grow fat====
This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.
*'''Not even'''. The first time, as far as I know, was in [[labor day]]. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:23, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak Decline.''' Coach Z just kinda barely chuckles in labor day. Are there any other examples of him, well ... actually laughing ... hard? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:12, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Does it matter? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' Well, I remember thinking "Gosh, I dunno if I've ever heard Coach Z laugh before." But that's just me ... -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 04:20, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Welll....''' It says "heard" him laugh, and we don't exactly HEAR the laugh in Labor Dabor... --[[user: lappy 486]]

===[[The Li'l Brudder Show]]===

====Ugly Animation====
The animation resembles the work of [[Wikipedia:Klasky Csupo|Klasky Csupo]] (most famous for [[Wikipedia:Rugrats|Rugrats]]), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

*'''Decline''' Wha...? Obviously not! Li'l Brudder is ''supposed'' to look raggety- he was made to make someone cry! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime''' Li'l Brudder pretty much looks the way Strong Bad drew him originally. He looks odd in the skydiving sequence 'cuz he's prolly falling at near terminal velocity! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:44, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Not So Li'l Decline''' Li'l Brudder's the only one that may look "ugly" due to the addition of visible black hairs all over his body and discolored teeth. Tendafoot looks exactly like the two-legged elephant Strong Bad drew, and the Legless Parrot and Human-Nosed Possum look like animated copies of the real animal, just with the aforementioned maladies. I think TBC made Li'l Brudder "uglier" to draw more pity for everybody's favorite go-getter. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 17:01, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Here Comes li'l Second''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Withdrawn''' I posted this originally, and on closer inspection I agree that Li'l Brudder looks more like Courage the Cowardly Dog than a K C creation. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Late 360 Shove-It To Decline'd!''' I think its unintentional, but kinda true about the "ugly, but cute" part. In spite of that, I also '''Second''' all of the above. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' He looks more like something John Kricfalusi (of the Ren and Stimpy fame) would create. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''No he doesn't.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 12:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Restored discussion. Please wait 2 weeks before declaring a verdict! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I don't see any resemblance. -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:29, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second?''' Li'l Brudder skydiving ''sort of'' looks like the animation of Klasky-Csupo, but that's just it. Never reminded me of anything the first time I watched it. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 23:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Things are lookin' up!====

The title of the page and Lil' Brudder's line at the end of the toon "Things are lookin' up!" is probably a reference to the Gershwin song of the same name. (Incidentally, there's also a line in the song that says "I'm happy as a pup.")[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Comment.''' Here's a [http://www.fredastaire.net/music/lyrics/thingsarelookingup.htm link] to the lyrics. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Yea, it's the line "Oh I'm happy as a pup since love looked up at me." But...not that Lil' Brudder's in love or anything...[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Close, but Decline.''' It's just an optimism from someone who has no reason to be optimistic. I doubt that the song popularized the phrase, even if it's old. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:50, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's De Cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:24, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE'D''' It's a far stretch.--[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]] 11:26, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The only way LB can see a thing as he scrapes along is to ... well ... look up! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:18, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' There was a drawing of Lil' Brudder in the Weekly Sketchbook entitled "things are looking up!" It's more likely that they'd be referencing other content on their site. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:57, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Wait, wasn't that quote also mentioned in [[crying]]? Oh, guess not. DE CLINE!!! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 22:48, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Stretch... Stretch... Stretch... Decline.''' -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:27, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)
*'''Decline''' and, by the way, if this WAS accurate, there would be nothing "ironic" about the "happy as a pup" line, unless you use the Alanis definition of irony (ie. "any funny coincidence.") --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:50, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's true...changed it to "Incidentally."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:02, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept!''' I think this could be a reference. It is a good fact!! --[[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[impression]]===
====What year is it?====

The form for the penmanship contest says 2004 Sectional Finals, however, the sign for the contest said 2003.

'''VERDICT:''' This goof has been accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:impression]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 16 Apr 2005
*'''ATTENTION GafAddict and Upset Your Balance and any other VERIDCTers''' - The standard voting period is 2 weeks. Please do not close any items that are newer than that that. In other words, check the first vote, if it's less than two weeks old, DON'T TOUCH IT! Also, if you're going to VERDICT an item, please sign your name and date as though you were signing a vote (two hyphens and four tildes)
**'''I think this one is a special case.''' It was STUFFed based on a false assumption. But I didn't VERDICT it, so... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***GafAddict did a few a day or so ago, and I've seen others get VERDICT'd well before the two week period. Also, whoever does it needs to sign it, so I figured I'd post it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*I have added my name and the date to the verdict. (Yes, it was me.) I'm not sure of the exact time of the verdicting though. And as Jay said, because it was STUFFed based on a false assumption, I put it back and verdicted it early. For other STUFF'd items, the VERDICT shall wait two weeks. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[dangeresque 3]]===
====Constantinople?====

The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.
*'''Decline.''' Istanbul is often used in the movies as a dangerous and exotic locale. Any resemblance to a TMBG song, living or dead, is purely coincidental. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's also [[Wikipedia:Istanbul|a real place]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Today's forecast is '''total crap.''' When will you people learn the difference between references and coincidences? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:37, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*"May be"...ugh. '''Decline''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' This fact wasn't just added to the page yesterday; it's been there for ''nine months.'' It's listed in the history as far back as you can go. Thousands of visitors to the page have already seen it and have tacitly given it their approval. The comments above make it sound like there's ''no chance'' that TBC chose Istanbul intentionally, but let me '''put it in context:''' in the few weeks leading up to this email, there were several [[Puppet_Jam:_Vitamins/Celebrities|Puppet Jams]] added to the site. Just a few weeks after the email, [[Experimental Film]] was released (so, being a song, it was likely already in the works at the time of the email). And you're telling me they ''didn't'' have TMBG on the brain? I don't think so. Too coincidental. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:41, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''I think not.''' Being on a page for a long time does not make a fact fun. It is a coincidence, 'nuff said. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' What It's dot com said. Believe me, if you listen to TMGB for too long, it's hard to think of Istanbul without mentally adding "...not Constantinople..." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:37, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Or maybe Istanbul is just a cool-sounding place and TBC weren't making a nod to TMBG. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:33, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:42, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*"I dunno about you The Ugly One, but I say this one should be '''accepted!'''" I really think so though. I agree with everybody who said it should be accepted. I've read over this debate, and do think that that whole thing's a TMBG refrence.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 21:48, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If, someday, a birdhouse shows up in a cartoon, will that be a reference to that birdhouse song? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:49, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's beside the point (although "birdhouse" is not a word that most people use every day). Just about everybody familiar with TMBG knows their song "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and identifies one with the other. I again refer you to the ''context'' of last summer (see my comments above), and considering that, I really don't think this fact is a stretch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Well, I never gave this thing any approval, tacit or otherwise. I've patrolled this page many times and everytime I read this "fact" I wrinkled my nose. I avoided STUFF-ing it because (1) unless I'm in the right mood it's tiresome and tedious and (b) I was afraid to expose my lack of hepitude. Hep or not, I still maintain this fact is based on the purest of speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' The Istanbul song is NOT originally TMBG. My google search says it was written in 1953, and it was reasonably popular before TMBG came along.
**'''Comment.''' He comes the [http://www.songlyrics.com/song-lyrics/Four_Lads/Miscellaneous/Istanbul_(not_Constantinople)/147257.html link]! Istanbul (Not Constantinople). Artists: The Four Lads ... peak Billboard position # 10 in 1953 ... Words by Jimmy Kennedy and Music by Nat Simon -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***The question isn't whether TMBG wrote the song (a ''lot'' of cover versions of songs are as popular as or more popular than their original versions, so this too is beside the point), but whether Istanbul is a reasonable reference to TMBG, and if so whether TBC might reasonably be referencing them by choosing Istanbul. On close calls like this, where the two parties have a known relationship and were demonstrably collaborating at the time, is the standard of proof ''really'' "[[Wikipedia:Burden_of_proof#Beyond_a_reasonable_doubt|beyond a reasonable doubt]]," or would a "[[Wikipedia:Burden_of_proof#Balance_of_probabilities|preponderance of the evidence]]" standard apply? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:08, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Call me Cletus if'n ya want, but, a single word on a placard does not a reference make! Now, if the sign had Constantinople crossed out with Istanbul written below it, well ... then we're talking reference! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:21, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****Aha! Now ''that's'' an argument that addresses the heart of the issue. Especially the "crossed out" part. Good prize! I'm not going to ''officially'' downgrade my vote above to neutral ('cause I don't think it will matter anyway), but, off the record, my support for including this fact is dwindling (although not gone). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Leaning towards decline.''' It may have been a SLIGHT reference, but mainly just because it's a weird sounding, yet somewhat well-known place. Hey, Istanbul was a big part of my Geography test.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:05, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Discount Flashback Warehouse====
In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad sounds a lot like Senor Cardgage. In fact, the whole easter egg resembles the Senor Cardgage Mortgage toon.
*'''Declinating the countryside, declinating the peasants...''' Of COURSE Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage sound similar - they're alternate versions of the same character. As for similarities between the two, all I see is that they're both commercials. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 11:48, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:40, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster''': After watching it a couple more times, I see that the second part is quite a stretch. As for the first part, I think I need to clarify: Strong Bad ''talks'' like Senor Cardgage, i.e. he uses a monotoneous voice. (Nice decline message tho'...) Therefore, the fun fact '''rephrased:''' In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad's style of speaking is similar to that of Senor Cardgage.
*Excardon me, but what differation does that make, Valerie? '''Decriminoted (decline).'''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*Okay, maybe it's just me, but does anybody else notice that Strong Bad's voice is kinda rasp and expressionless? That's whay I'm basing the whole thing on.
*'''Decline''' Matt Chapman can only do so many different voices, and it makes it especially hard to try and do two alternates to the same character. Strong Bad also does somewhat of a Senor Cardgage voice at the end of [[theme park]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Comment''' One might also add that both seem to have a common source. That is, the cheap television ads that small businesses create. If you somehow don't know what I'm talking about, just watch a local network for a little while, you'll see and hear plenty of dead air, gaudy graphics, poor diction, and bad acting. Actually, I don't know how you can fully appreciate Homestar Runner without having watched even that small amount of tv.
**SIGN YOUR VOTES! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***"Comment" is not a vote. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:27, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* '''D3kl1n3!!''' I didn't bother to read all this to see if somebody had already said this, but The 'Discount' bit came before 'Senor Cardgage' bit. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 02:50, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Here comes the Thnikka-Decline-Man!''' Um, its also a second with kerrek slaya, but sewiously, this did come out before [[Senor Mortgage]]. Check yer facts, folks. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:43, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster:''' Ah cwap, I did forget to check the release dates. My apologies to the hrwiki users. This might have been the wohst hundwed wohds I evoh spent.
**'''Note on the characters:''' Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage are not the same person or even alternate versions of one another. According to Strong Sad, Senor Cardgage was a real person who lived nearby the Strongs' home. Creepy Comb Over Strong Bad is a hypothetical version of Strong Bad who ''resembles'' Senor Cardgage. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:51, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''DEE-CLINE!''' Aslo note that
A) Senor Cartgage IS Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad. He's a, as Zajac said, a hypothetical version of Strong Bad.
B) Strong Bad, in this case, is bored and sad. Senor Cartgage is pretty much always bored and sad, and so, as a result of being simply a hypothetical version of Strong Bad, Senor Cardgage is going to sound like Strong Bad here.
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[replacement]]===
====Strong Mad sings====
Strong Mad says "I'M STRONG MAD," which could be a reference A Jumping Jack Contest, in which Strong Mad poses as Strong Bad and says a similar line.

'''Verdict:''' After only one week of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly and unanimously '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:replacement]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[spring cleaning]]===
====DELETED!====
The "DELETED" screen has a green background on the Tandy. When later used on the Compy, it has a blue background. It has not been used on the Lappy thusfar.

'''VERDICT:''' This information has been '''moved''' to the [[DELETED]] page. The votes have been moved to [[Talk:spring cleaning]]

===[[rampage]]===

====Poetic chops====
Ironically, while Strong Sad glorifies iambic pentameter, his creation is a pretty bad example of it. He twists the stresses on "lyric rampage," properly pronounced LY-ric RAM-page (a pair of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trochee trochees]), into ly-RIC ram-PAGE (a pair of iambs).

*'''Decline.''' I agree with what you're saying. Also, it's not much of a rampage to be reciting at a rate of 2 syllables per second. However, I don't think anyone learns anything from this fun fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait a '''Second!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny that Strong Sad has to artificially make trochees into iambs, but maybe I'm just a nerd. Anyway, I'm sure not everyone will know this, so accept! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:38, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Sign yer vote!
**'''Weak Second to a Strong Accept.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third the Nerd''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''seconding the third''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''seconding the seconding of the third of the...whatever. I agree.''' [[user:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
****'''20x6ing the 1936''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''''
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:56, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
**'''Comment''' There is already a similar fun fact on the page.
*Great jorb!
** Uh... is that a vote? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Absolutely not the case!''' I see what you're saying, but it's not the case. It's just the way he did it to the beat...you wouldn't pronounce it the same if you're doing it to a beat.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' I hate to argue with someone on my side, but: Strong Sad says in the beginning, "Iambic pentameter is where it's at!" so then he proceeds to give a line of iambic pentameter (plus one "ummmmmm" in the middle). Yes it did match the beat, but it would be more accurate to say that the beat followed an iambic metric, and because strong sad rampaged in iambs, he matched the beat (though if he had waited half a beat before starting, he could have matched the rhythm with all trochees)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 01:31, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Strong Sad, Charles Barkley, and Ruben Studdard...long lost triplets?====
Strong Bad's insult of "round mound of gray fatness" towards Strong Sad could be derived in part from the nickname of former NBA player [[Wikipedia:Charles Barkley|Charles Barkley]], the "Round Mound of Rebound." Also, Ruben Studdard, who won [[Wikipedia:American Idol|American Idol]] in 2003 and bears more than a slight resemblance to Strong Sad in shape, is sometimes known as the "Round Mound of Sound."

*'''Decline.''' Before Jay gets to it: This, that, and the other... If it's been used more than once elsewhere, it's not a specific reference, and therefore, unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:09, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** Well, this is two unrelated things, and (if it's true) exactly one of them is it, but we don't know which. Not EXACTLY the same thing as my usual "this that and the other thing" complaint -- ''but'' -- it's too much of a stretch in either case without some extra info, so I do have to agree with '''Decline'''-ing it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Barkley and Ruben don't even look alike, much less Strong Sad. 20:52, --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Comment.''' A little Googling shows that [http://www.luma-electronic.cz/lp/p/Kenny/price_k_walking.htm Kenny Price] was the first Round Mound of Sound, way back in 1969. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Is the SB's insult of the "Round Mound of [something that rhymes with round and mound]" type? Of course it is. Is it notable? Given that the reference has been around for at least 36 years, probably not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:58, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Sad is round, a mound, gray, and fat. The only thing Strong Bad's insult is a reference to is Strong Sad's appearance. Can you streeeeeeeeetch? -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:46, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Round Mound of Decline''' Does "Gray Fatness" rhyme with "Round" and "Mound?" [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Rewrite''' it into something a bit more streamlined. Something like: "'Round Mound of Fatness' is a reference to other characters such as Kenny Price, the 'Round Mound of Sound', and Charles Barkely, the 'Round Mound of Rebound'". I like this Fun Fact, though.
*'''Rewrite'''. When I watched [[rampage]] for the first time, I thought of Charles Barkley. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:30, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)
*'''Who's the dude on 21 Decline Street''' I think not- round mounds could be anything. [[User: Lappy 486]]
**'''Secooooooooooooonddge.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:41, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Dumpy Dump sat on a wall====
Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "DJ Dumpy Dump" could be a combination reference to the rappers DJ Jazzy Jeff and Humpty Hump (who Coach Z once dressed up as for Halloween). It may also be a reference to rapper Doug E. Doug.

* '''Decline''' all but Humpty Hump - it's the only one close enough. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:02, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise''' As said above, just stick with Humpty Hump. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 20:16, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' Now then, if he was being called "DJ Dazzy Dump", I'd agree that it might also be a reference to jazzy jeff. But that's not what's going on here. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Humpty Hump is a fairly clear reference, I think.
*'''Accept''' I don't get it. It seems to me it pretty clearly a reference to DJ Jazzy Jeff. I am sure the Brothers are familiar with both. Doesn't it seem likely that they were refering to both?[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Uh... no?''' It matches Humpty Hump with about three letters' difference. It matches Jazzy Jeff with about ONE letter's similarity. Why does it have to be both? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Silly''' They both sound a lot like it, but DJ Jazzy Jeff has the 'DJ' and the exact same rhythm. It is silly to just go by the letters.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*** If it's VERY close to one and SORTA KINDA VAGUELY IN A WAY close to the other, why even entertain the sorta kinda vague one? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** DJ Jazzy Jeff is not the only rapper with 'DJ' in his name. That's not a specific reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:32, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** While this is true. I am hard pressed to think of one that sounds so much like DJ Dumpy Dump. Clearly I am losing this vote. (Although four to one is a pretty small sample. I have checked with friends here and they agree with me for what it is worth.) I really honestly believe it is a reference to both. I would be extremely surprised to find that The Brothers were not aware of how much it sounds like both of them. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Decline all.''' It's not a specific reference to any of those - it's a reference to Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "dumpus". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well, that TOO... but it's pretty close to Humpty Hump, so I wouldn't discount the reference possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***I know it was obvious - I'm just skeptical of any of these. It could also be a reference to Marky Mark, or Easy E (sic), or Flavor Flav, or... you catch my drift? Having the _____-y _____ thing for a name isn't THAT uncommon - and in this sense, if you've got people coming up with three or more '''possible''' references, well then perhaps it's not actually a specific reference, and as such, it probably shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DJ Decline''' There are more than one artist whose stage names begin with "DJ." There's no similarity between "Dumpy Dump" and "Jazzy Jeff." Go away. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' If you can't prove it, don't post it. I will say that the Dumpty Hump reference is the most likely one, especially if TBC have referred to the guy before. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''And a comment''' I'm seeing more and more people getting blunt or just plain rude with how they reject fun facts. I can appreciate this (alot of the supposed "facts" annoy me) but maybe its time the rules were revised a bit. Maybe limit the types of facts accepted or post clearer rules at the top of the page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' at least Humpty Hump. I also support keeping DJ Jazzy Jeff. Get rid of Doug E. Doug. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:59, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite.''' Ditch DJ Jazzy Jeff and Doug E. Doug.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' First thing I thought of was Jazzy Jeff... Then again, I'm rap-ly challenged. Humpty Hump for sure. [[User:SP|SP]]
*'''A digga. A digga. A diggity-DECLINED! I guess Homestar didn't stop me.''' I can think of another DJ with the same rhythm-Jazze Pha. (Pronounced Jazzy Fay) --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:33, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)
*'''Accept!!''' This is clearly a reference, especially considering the Coach Z costume part.

====Wite Wrapper====
The fact that Strong Sad's "whiteness" is acknowledged on his CD refers to famous white rappers such as [[Wikipedia:Eminem|Eminem]] and [[Wikipedia:Vanilla Ice|Vanilla Ice]].

* '''Del taco... wait...''' Hey, boys and girls, let's see how far we can streeeeeeeeetch Fun Facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:40, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' Yeah this one is really stretching.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
** '''Second to last place.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 02:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Ding!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* ... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:07, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I agree that it is a reference to white rappers. The problem with this fun fact is 1)the joke is obvious and 2)Eminem is considered to be a GOOD rapper (even though I can't stand him) while Strong Sad is meant to flop. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:42, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''I think this one is worth our time, maybe we should accept it--DECLINED!''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline''' Hold on The Cheat! We're gonna stretch this fun fact to the MOOOOOOOOOOOOOON! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:22, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline. White is the color of his face. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' based on the fact that it's common household knowledge (well, some households) as far as white wrapperas and jokes about them go.--[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Decline''' plus '''side note:''' There already is a fun fact about this on the page. Furthermore, Coach Z is some sort of Canadian/Minnisotan/New Englander/Bostonian white boy himself, and he can rap better than anyone else on the site. In addition, The Brothers Chaps seem to be pretty good at rapping (at least when they write and perform for Coach Z). --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline''' Why does the color of a rapper's skin matter? [[User:Fizz123|Someone who does not like racism]]
*'''Decline.''' It's not really like that...I think it's more of a stupid slang word for someone who doesn't rap well...It's been used so much it goes beyond being racist. (which is why Strong Bad can say it.) (So, Fizz123, it's not exactly a racist comment.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* I'm a girl. I don't understand this stuff. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**Please tell me this is sarcasm. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Yes, it is. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Uh Digga-Digga-Digga-DECLINED!''' For reasons already mentioned.
**Sign your vote. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]]

====English Lesson====
(under the ''quiver(ed)'' definition) In early Modern English, it would have been written "Quiver'd" (not to be confused with 404'D, Cerebellum'D, etc, etc.).
* '''Decline'd''' Don't worry, I wasn't confused in the slightest. Except, perhaps, as to why you made this 'fun' fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:46, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:07, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline.''' Number A, this is not interesting or relevant. Number B, how do you know Strong Bad didn't say it like Quiver'd? Quivered and quiver'd would be pronounced the same way. This shouldn't have even been STUFF'd. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:52, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**A,B,etc... are not numbers.
***You aren't a regular, are you? -Walking Armless
**Heh... good point on B, mibluvr13. I don't know why that didn't cross my mind when I STUFF'd this. Guess I was just thinking blindly about what was in the transcript without thinking about the actual toon. '''Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:01, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====I'm on a Rainbow====
Strong Bad capitalizing "Reading Rampage" in the e-mail could be an allusion to [[Wikipedia:Reading Rainbow|Reading Rainbow]], the popular 90's children reading show.
*<strike>'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:49, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)</strike>
*'''Accept/Rewrite''' I don't like the phrase "could be" in that statement. But you might be on to something there --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline''' 100% pure Florida natural SPECULATION! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline.''' How is capitializing a phrase a reference to anything? And it's still a stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**I submitted this fun fact because Strong Bad didn't capitalize any other rampages he mentioned, and looking at the phrase capitalized, it kind of looks and sounds like Reading Rainbow, at least alliteratively. It was the first (and so far only) thing that popped into my head as to why it was capitalized. Just wanted to state my case, whether or not it matters. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 17:26, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Heck no at all.''' This is a stretch and three quarters. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' That's pretty clever, actually! I like it. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Being clever is far from a prerequisite for a fun fact. Anyway, '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:13, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''SEVERE Decline!!!''' Anyone who thinks that is a reference needs to have their brain checked, no offense. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Are you kidding me? There's serious doubt. But not about whether this fact should be '''DECLINE'D!!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' If there's no certainty of the connection, it shouldn't be listed. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''VOTE CHANGE! SECOND!''' That's true, Beatfox. I think the only reason I voted yes before was because it sounded hillarious as a spoof...I mean, Reading Rainbow...Reading Rampage? Hahahahaha! Someone ought to make a flash 'toon about that![[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:45, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.'''If you do a google search for the phrase "reading rampage", you will see that there are a great many libraries in the U S of A that sponsor reading rampages! Still, I like the way you think. It's a stretch, but clearly you have a good sense of humor :)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:18, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*My Land! [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=reading+rampage Google] ''does'' show lots & '''lots''' of Reading Rampages going ORRRRF in the USA! This is more that just a stretch. The fact as written is just plain wrong. This is a real-world reference. I'm upgrading my vote to an '''Infinite Decline with a Major Rewrite.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:36, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' The rules of the STUFF'd page prohibit this type of unverified trivia. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Weak Decline''' I think that although this could be a connection, I think that it's stretching it a little. Strong Bad ''vaguely'' says it like Reading Rainbow in the e-mail, but not so much that it stands out to you. I could see why you'd say this, but I still think that you're probably incorrect. -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 4:08 PM, 15 Apr 2005
*'''New Trell''' You do happen to provide sufficient reasoning for the Reading Rainbow reference, but the past comments on Reading Rampages are also... well... I DON'T KNOW. I'M NEUTRAL, I DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING! ...Yeah [[User:SP'd|SP'd is crazy]]
*'''Decline's the limit''' Nah, 'tis a stretch. --[[User: Lappy 486]]

====Marzipan's Speech Impediment====
Marzipan seems to stutter uncharacteristically during the phrase "would be proud."
*'''Accept.''' I thought this was a rather unusual observation on a character who's normally very proficient with her speech. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:05, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' For once, I think this is legitimate. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 13:19, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It sure doesn't sound like "Geoff Chaucerbury" to me! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice this. Very nice. Clap, clap. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:53, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Because, uh, why does it need to be in Fun Facts? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:23, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' It's noted in the transcript (would be is written twice). --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 01:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' True, but it's not immediately obvious to the casual reader. It could easily be overlooked or mistaken for a typo. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:39, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Countercomment''' Dan vs. Jerome was similar in its construct - it was in the transcript but non-obvious. It was declined too. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 07:16, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:52, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a side of DECLINE!''' Sounded more like a simple flash goof to me. Nothing worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment''' Whatever it is, it's not a glitch. I checked it out in a sound editor. Not only are the two "would be's" unique, they make up one continuous phrase. There's no discontinuity in the waveform, and the tone of voice transitions seamlessly. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:14, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' -- I believe it's worth noting on a few counts. First, it's unusual for TBC to make this kind of goof. Second, it verifies what people believe they've heard. Third, it prevents people from trying to read into the dialog what's just not there (e.g. Geoff Chaucerbury). There! I doubt I swayed any of the Decliners, but I've had my say! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept '''but''' Move.''' Given that close analysis of the sound track has revealed that this is an actual occurance and not a glitch, it should be taken as valid, but perhaps would be best left as part of the transcript. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:15, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' Apparently, some less-informed person decided to correct this "typo" in the transcript. I have restored it and added an HTML comment to ward off such attempts in the future... whatever happened to the comment that was there before? In any case, we should at least have ''something'' on the page to point out this oddity. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:35, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Because''' someone changed it to "Chaucerbury", we talked about it, agreed it was wrong, and the person who changed it back didn't put back the comment. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''meh''' I dunno... it seems like a goof to me. Out of place.
*'''Comment''' Did anyone else find it funny that Marzipan stopped smiling as Homsar stopped his AaAaAaAa...? ''I'' thought that was funny.
** Yes, I noticed - but what does that have to do with this fact? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:53, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*** Nothing, that's why it was a comment. :) '''Accept''' the fact btw --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*You've been '''ACCEPTED''' into Crazy Go Nuts University!...Seriously, folks, this Fun Fact looks like it's good to go.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:45, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Pie, Anyone?====
"The pie's the limit" may be refering to Strong Bad's wednesday pie motivational talks in [[other days]].
*'''Decline.''' Just because it contains "pie" doesn't necessarily mean it's a reference. And I don't like the "may be". [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:54, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I want to accept this, I really do, but there's just not enough there there. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:58, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''I can't think of a Decline pun right now''' Well, in my opinion, it's just a play on "The Sky's The Limit." Pie is actually a pretty widely used running gag on H*R, including the pie motivational talks mentioned earlier, piemonade, etc. So if anything, this should be in some other section. [[User:SP|SP]]
*'''Decline''' Hot soup is on my eye![[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' "The pie's the limit" is a reference to the old saying "The sky's the limit." Strong Bad was just being silly by saying pie instead of sky. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*I don't know why, but when I see "may be" in a fun fact, I can see a kitten dying. '''Declinester''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' That and it violates the guidelines of good fun facts (see top of page). --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:16, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Decline, word up''' no way, just one word, obviously wrong.

====Chicken Soup for the Soul====
One of the books seen during Strong Bad's "reading rampage" is titled Soup, Right?, a reference to the "[[Wikipedia:Chicken Soup for the Soul|Chicken Soup for the Soul]]" book series.
*'''Accept'''I like Chicken Soup! You dang right it's a reference![[User: Umbertowasted|Umbertowasted]]
*'''Decline.''' Stretchy stretchy Stretch Armstrong! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:32, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:00, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I am sure this is an intentional reference.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I can see this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' They stretch you, and stretch you, and STREEEEEEEETCH you! --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' No more a stretch than the ''For Jerks'' book referencing the ''For Dummies'' ones. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Except that "Soup, Right?" doesn't sound at all like Chicken Soup for the Soul, whereas "(Topic) for Jerks" is just like "(Topic) for Dummies".
*'''Decline.''' Soup, Right? could be short for "Soup Done Right" or something like that. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 13:20, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No way, Lucy.''' Sharing one word doesn't make it a reference. Seriously, people, you're not even trying anymore. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' You're stretching! Like RB said: It's only sharing ONE word!! Come on, people!! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:29, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Not trying? Seems more like they're trying too hard. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Delete.''' There's not way that that is a reference. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:37, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I based my vote based on the fact that the books Strong Bad is reading are meant to sound like advice books. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DELORTED!''' That almost definitely doesn't have anything to do with anything. That's like saying "Sweatshirtguy" is a reference to Rocky.
*'''Insert witty DECLINE comment here''' MAJOR STRETCH! Just cause they share the same word doesn't mean they're related. Wow. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
**'''Second.''' Totally unsupported theory. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:18, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Accept''' Definately a reference
**'''Sign teh vote!''' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 00:02, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**"Definately" not. '''DECLINED''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:56, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Inclined to Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' While we're at it, "Biscuit" is a reference to "Seabiscuit."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Are you sure you didn't want to type decline? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:37, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I meant accept. Try to name other bestsellers with the words "soup" or "biscuit" in them. It seems clear to me that the titles aren't just random--they're either references to real books, real things (brown story), or HR references. The only thing that seems random to me is Strong Mad's waffle, which reads "BUG."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:18, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***I'm not convinced. It's still one word, and both words happen to be kinds of food. And I, for one, didn't even know "Seabiscuit" was a book til you mentioned it. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 00:06, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***FYI, the book "Seabiscuit" was a major bestseller even before the movie came out.
****Excuuuuse me, Princess, for being a disaffected youth. I haven't picked up anything worth reading since Hitchhiker trilogy. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And, rsl12, you're basing your crackpot theory on the fact that the words soup and biscuit appear in SBemails? Sorry, wrong. You're an idiot. Good-bye.-- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:08, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Goodbye. Hope you don't come back. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 13:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Okay, okay, enough with the insults. Agree to disagree. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I'll stop, but I don't like how some people can totally go blind in saying someone has no manners for STUFFing a fun fact. Either way, my vote is upgraded to '''Severe Decline/Delete.'''--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:11, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Duh-duh-duh-declined''' Not a reference.
*'''Not neccesarily.''' It could also be a reference to the book "Soup." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:48, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====It's a Bird, it's a Plane, it's Pie???====

"The pie's the limit" is a reference to the quote, "The sky is the limit," which is found on Thorax Corporation's website.

*'''Decline-erson''' Not only is this fact too obvious, but "The sky is the limit" is a cliché, and is not exclusive to Throax.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Well look who thinks he's Clever Dan. Wait, you're wrong, it's a reference to the Notorious B.I.G., he made a song called "Sky's the Limit" so he must've copyrighted the phrase!!!!111one Ugh...
*'''Decline x999''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Piecline.''' Sorry, that's the best I can do with this one. Why wasn't this just deleted? --- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Because I wanted to make sure it wasnt just my oppinion that this stunk.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:48, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Looks like you're not alone on this one! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Re: why this wasn't just deleted: there's a lot of fun facts on these transcripts that should just be disposed of promptly. This one I agree with. But then again, if we did that, there wouldn't be a STUFF page. And by the way, I also '''decline.''' -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:46, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE-ED!''' The sky is the limit is a popular phrase. Just because it's found on the Thorax Corp's website doesn't make it a reference. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:40, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Worst Place''' I decline it because it is so freaking obvious that if you didn't understand it the first time you must be an idiot. [[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[time capsule]]===
====Norse mythology====
The line about making people from spit may be a reference to a Norse myth, in which the Aesir (war gods) and Vanir (fertility gods), to seal a peace treaty between them, made a man (named Braugi) from their collective spit. He knew all their combined secrets, but was eventually killed by giants.
*'''Decline.''' It's more likely a reference to the fact that spit contains DNA, and it may one day be possible to clone someone from their DNA. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Third''' Coincidental. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* While I'm suprised about how much you know about Norse Mythology...'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Uh... no. While that's a very well thought-out reach, it's still a reach - the reference is to cloning from DNA. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:12, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' It's probably a reference to DNA and cloning. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:24, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* You obviously put a lot of work into this one, but unfortunately, I must '''Decrine.''' As said by other folks above, it's a reference to cloning from DNA. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:49, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept.''' This is a FUN FACT! Mind you, I highly doubt this is what TBC were trying to reference, but my life has been enriched by reading this. I would suggest rewriting it, however, to say "There is a story in Nordic mythology in which the Aesir (war gods)...." This way, there's no suggestion that TBC was trying to reference this fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No way does this work. The whole joke is based on the popular misconseption of what cloning is. Clones are genetic twins, not exact duplicates with the same minds, thoughts, and memories of the original. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:21, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Decline.''' This is NOT a fun fact. This is barely a fact. Why wasn't this one just deleted? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:54, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[pizzaz]]===
====Third Interview====
This is the third time Strong Bad has interviewed somebody. He "interviewed" [[Homsar]] (actually himself speaking for Homsar) in the email "[[interview]]" and he interviewed [[Homestar]] in the toon [[The Interview]].
*'''Accept.''' Nice one. [[User:hamrodrunner|hamrodrunner]]
*'''Decline.''' This should never have been STUFF-ed. It should have been deleted outright. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:48, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' To paraphrase a below quote, fun facts aren't made to count how many times things happen. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline to the moon''' Firsts are noteworthy... thirds aren't so much. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move/revise''' How about moving it to the Fast Forward of the "interview" e-mail and saying something like "Strong Bad also conducts interviews in [[The Interview]] and [[pizzaz]]." [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 17:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**How about not? Noting how many times Strong Bad conducts interviews isn't fun - anybody watching those e-mails can tell for themselves whether or not he's conducting interviews. And the fact that the two toons being referenced actually have the word "interview" in the title makes this one even more obvious and unnecessary. '''Declined''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:24, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Nobody cares. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Severe Decline!''' First times are somewhat interesting, second times are not, and third times are hazardous to your health.
*'''Declination Nation.''' No offense, man. I mean, you should get credit for trying, but it's just, well, boring. No one cares.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declorned.''' Nobody cares about thirds, or even seconds. First's are okay (mostly). But back to the subject, this is not a worth fun fact. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''(accept?)''' i thought it was a good fact...
*My card is totally '''D3CL1N3'D!!!''' I don't think this is worth mentioning. None of his "interviews" seem to get any information out of anyone anyway. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
====CREEPING floating DEATH flashlight====
When everyone is telling ghost stories, no one actually holds the flashlight with his or her hands. It just sort of floats in front of everyone. With Homestar, Marzipan, and the King of Town, this makes sense, since none of them have visible hands, but we should see everybody else's hands.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:Homestarloween Party]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:31, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Fhqwhgads]]===
====Not Expecting====
Fhqwhgads actually just sent the Email as a joke. It was not intended to be used. However, Fhqwhgads, whose personal information will not be revealed because of a request not to, did say this in an AIM conversation: "I didn't spoof a virus. I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." If you don't believe this, you can contact him-his AIM screename is IamFHQWHGADS142. (He has pride that he is Fhqwhgads) -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]]

'''VERDICT:''' This item was closed on request by the author. See below for a new version of this fun fact. Voting moved to [[Talk:Fhqwhgads]]--[[User:-erson|<nowiki>Posted by </nowiki>-erson]] 01:27, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====The joke theory====
- (An outcome of "Not Expecting")
- It's been theorized that this [that the email was a spoof of the "i love you" virus] is not true. A person claiming to be Fhqwhgads said he actually just sent the Email as a joke, and that it was not intended to be used. "I didn't spoof a virus," he said, "I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." However, due to a concern about personal provacy, he would not give any information. -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:36, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Still Decline''' Next thing you know the Wiki will be flooded with kids claiming to have their own story about why they e-mailed Strong Bad. Too much speculation, no real way to prove any of it. Its bad enough that we have people thinking they can get their fun facts in by putting "It may be" or "Its possible that" in with them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:33, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''2nd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:02, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I can see how we wouldn't want to let this get out of hand, but we're fighting a problem we don't even have. If people were going to randomly and falsely claim to be email authors, I think they'd already be doing it. Plus, we're not talking about accepting ''all'' such claims; we're only concerned here with ''this'' case (and if the Supreme Court of the United States can make a ruling while at the same time declaring that it ''doesn't'' set precedent, so can we). Lastly, I think TK genuinely believes to be in contact with ''the'' fhqwhgads, and that should carry some weight. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:54, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Thank you. And I assure everyone here: neither I nor any of my comrades (including Fwh) is anywhere near crazy. ^_^ In fact, I really hate nonevident and irrational claims, and I most certainly would not want the wiki to be flooded with them! But I seriously know THE Fhqwhgads -TK
*Well I genuinly think that I'm in contact with people who can't get my point. It could be true yes but he can't prove it so it shouldn't go up in any way shape or form. No different than any other fun fact that needs proof to be accepted. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline-erson''' Is it not possible that this potential AIM'er could be a fake, just claiming to be Fwh but not him truely? And, if it was the true Fwh, than wouldnt it make sence that his AIM name (IamFHQWHGADS142) wouldnt have numbers at the end, as the real Fwh would probably be the first person to make such a name and wouldnt require the numbers at the end of it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 12:45, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's NOT the Fun Fact in question. You're thinking of "Not expecting." This is different! Plus lemee just clarify this: in order to fully understand the esscense of THIS fact, you gotta forget it even HAD a predescessor (and all the information included in that one.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Well than, how did you get that information and those quotes? By talking to a person on AIM. How do you know that person was the real Fwh? You dont! Still '''Decline'''. --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:27, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' The person COULD have just wanted numbers in his screename. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 20:21, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Exactly! You tryin to say I should just be TakuaKaita? A little insulting. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]]
**'''Comment.''' The real Fwh would not have made an AIM name before writing the e-mail because it was random banging on the keyboard. Only once the e-mail had become famous would s/he have made that name. By that time, someone else likely took the AIM name first, forcing the real Fwh to add numbers.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Both versions hinge upon a quote from the purported foogoograss. The quote is impossible to verify. As a result, both fact and theory should be rejected. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:41, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Which is why "claimed" is used...look you gous are missing the point...the point is it wasn't based on the virus, not that I know Fwh. Besides, if proof is all you guys seem to care about, what "proof" do we have that it WAS based on the virus?[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:45, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno, maybe the large Scare that passed during the same time this email was released? It could be an influence considering it wason every news station across the land. I mean honestly... And note: in order for it to be a fun '''fact''', it needs proof. Its not a fact without it! --[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.'''You're right. There is no proof. Frankly, I think the "virus" theory should be deleted/stuff-ed. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:30, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No proof, no fun fact in my opinion. If it requires furthur input, then let me say this. If it were me who sent the e-mail, I wouldn't go off and register a new AIM, e-mail or whatever, I'd just keep my own. However, I do disagree with the number theory. Maybe the numbers had significance. But anyway, there's no way to prove it so it can't be claimed a fact. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[date]]===
====Ren & Stimpy XR====
The logo for the Extra Real Dating Sim XR is based on the logo for the Nickelodeon cartoon "Ren & Stimpy".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:date]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:04, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[the show]] ===
====Homestar's "Arms"====
Unless Homestar is holding the microphone under his armpit when he is reciting his list, this is another one of those times when it's questionable as to how many invisible arms he has: he holds the microphone in one hand, his cards in the other, and flips them over each other all at the same time.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:the show]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 12:15, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[suntan]] ===
====Marzipan's Parasol====
Marzipan is carrying a toothpick parasol one would normally receive with a tropical drink, only hers seems to be much larger than normal. Except that tropical drink parasols are modelled after real parasols . . . which are, you know, real . . .

''After a week of unanimous declines, this Fun Fact has been closed. The votes for this fun fact can be seen at the [[Talk:suntan|talk page]] of suntan.

=== [[local news]] ===
====Scalawag====
"Scalawag" may possibly be a reference to a Calvin and Hobbes strip in which Calvin and Hobbes sing the "Very Sorry Song" :
:(Calvin) "I'm sorry, so sorry I took your precious flaaaaag"
:(Hobbes) "Just don't do it again you scurvy scalawaaaaaag"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:local news]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[brianrietta]] ===
==== "Tough Guys"? ====
This is the only reference to homosexuality in the entire site, '''and thankfully Strong Bad handled it more maturely than most "tough guys" would have.'''

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, the majority of votes said to '''Decline''' this fact outright. Discussion moved to [[Talk:brianrietta]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:09, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Hom Sar Ref====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:00, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Trial Game origin====

The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====False Advertising====

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- tomstiff 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Special Appearance====
Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.

''After a week of unanimous declines, this fun fact has been rejected. You can see the votes at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].

====Whats Her Face's lack of appearance====

For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:54, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio====

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:22, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Tall homestar?====
In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Updated for the 90's====
Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:17, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]===
====Sweating====
Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:51, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====X-Pensive Winos====
The text "X-PENSIVE W..." appearing on Strong Bad's 'light pen' before he shakes it up may be a reference to Rolling Stones guitarist [[Wikipedia:Keith Richards|Keith Richards']] solo band the X-Pensive Winos.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:59, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Rodeo Hot Dogs====
"Rodeo Hot dogs" is a reference to the old Oscar Meyer mascot.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:56, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

'''Verdict:''' After almost a month of voting, this fact was voted to be '''Moved''' from Goofs to Remarks on [[long pants]]. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:long pants]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Bedroom Window====
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

'''Verdict:''' After almost a month of voting, this fact was '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 12:43, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Breaking the Lappy====
Strong Bad indicates that The Cheat has a history of breaking the Lappy. Perhaps The Cheat demonstrated this tendency with the Compy 386 as well. This may explain why the Compy apparently bore a grudge against The Cheat, as demonstrated in [[couch patch]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[techno]]===
====Silent J====
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:techno]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[the bet]]===
====Forgotten Lie====
Strong bad says in the King of Town DVD that the King does not live in a castle. However, in this email he seems to have forgotten all about it.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad does things like this frequently, and it's not the first time he's lied about something, i.e. The Cheat not having a computer in [[huttah!]] -Walking Armless
*'''Rewrite and accept.''' The idea's there, but it's a little wordy. Cut it down maybe to something like "Strong Bad said in the DVD that he didn't have a castle, but aspparently he does here."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:06, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Not only does Strong Bad have a penchant for lying, but this isn't even the first time after the KoT DVD that we've seen or heard about the KoT's castle. Check 3 Times Halloween Funjob or 'Tis True, Pom Pom, 'Tis True (the latter was unreleased until recently but was clearly started long before this email), as well as a few other 'toons. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:07, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:56, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I disagree that anything noted as "so far" is bad (though "this is the first time" is usually more appropriate.) However, this fact isn't totally true as stated, so '''Rewrite and accept''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Cory====
The painting marked "Cory" is most likely a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]].

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:That A Ghost]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 21:48, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

*Keep '''Mr. Mxyzptlk''' and '''The Great Gazoo'''. Scrap the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' The "Great Gazoo" bit is DEFINITELY a reference as the cartoon is a parody of Hanna Barbera cartoons. I'm not so certain about Mr. Mxyzptlk, but I do agree that it's a valid reference. However, I think Gazoo should come first, as per the Flintstones parody. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Just did a little checking - Gazoo first appeared in 1964, while Mr. Mxyzptlk first appeared in 1987, as did Q (on the pilot of ST:TNG). Gazoo should be first in the fact as he's first chronologically, and while I'm still iffy about Mxyzptlk being included, seeing as how the title of the episode "Encounter at Groupulon 5" is a reference to the pilot of ST:TNG, I think the Q reference is definitely valid. Mighty Max is a huge stretch, though the hat and the "muddle me twice" line definitely seem to point to a Riddler reference. John Bozar seems to be an amalgam of all of them - this may be a TTATOT fact, but for once, there's a basis for it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' According to Wikipedia, [[Wikipedia:Mr._Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]] was introduced in 1944. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Comment.''' My bad - I didn't realize he was THAT old. Curse the internet for diseminating false information! In any case, I still think he's an amalgam of Mxyzptlk, Gazoo, Q, and Riddler - but then we get into TTATOT territory. Still, with this being an OBVIOUS Hanna Barbera parody, I think Gazoo should take precedence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:25, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I thought we'd already declined this TTATOT fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:50, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Actually Jay, I think we declined the fact about the guy with the metal jaw, not Bozar. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:54, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Albi refs Abdi?? ====
Strong calls the author of the email Albi, which is a reference to the author of the first email, [[some kinda robot]], who was named Abdi.

*'''Decline.''' Albi is short for Albin, not a reference to Abdi. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Yep. Yep. Yeap. Second.''' -Walking Armless
**'''Threecond.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*...urge to kill...rising... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Guitar throw refs [[invisibility]]?? ====
When Space Gary throws his guitar and says "I guess I won't be needing THIS anymore," it is a reference to [[invisibility]]. Strong Bad says the same thing when he gets rid of the broken [[Tandy 400]] and replaces it with the [[Compy 386]].

*'''Decline.''' Inflection is different, throwing is different than knocking off the desk, and the line isn't even the same ("And don't need THIS anymore"). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Go TheEggman!!''' Uh... I mean '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:56, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's a common phrase. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:14, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Oh please... are you surfing HR.com randomly looking for things to correlate? '''Decline!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:12, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== rrll == grrl ?? ====
The use of "rrll rrll" is probably the latest version of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]."

*'''Decline.''' The latest version, what? "rrll" is for "real", "grrl" is for "girl" - what's the relation, besides not using any vowels? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''¡Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:53, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Segundo.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:34, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*It's not even worth it to be sarcastic. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''One less than Third'''

==== Rudiments ====
"rrll rrll" is a common short-hand notation for a [http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments/06longroll.html double-stroke roll], which is a percussion rudiment executed by playing two strokes on a single hand followed by two in the alternate hand and repeating.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:07, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Slightly Revise'''... "...bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins..." - if the "girl bassist" part is the basis for the reference, then one of the bands mentioned should fit this example. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 02:07, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

'''Vredict:''' This fact was voted to be '''Rewritten and Moved'''. The revised fact now appears on [[best thing]], while the discussion can be found at [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:44, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold was in question)

'''Verdict:''' After about a month of voting, the fact in bold was narrowly '''declined''' by a score of 2-3. The Star Trek reference has been put back on [[best thing]], while the entire discussion can be found on [[Talk:best thing]]. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:colonization]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:dragon]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:18, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

-Edited by [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]. (Link was to [[rock opera]], not dragon)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:36, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

'''Verdict:''' After almost two months of voting, this fact recieved a single '''Decline''' vote. Discussion moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:45, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''Verdict:''' After almost two months of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Where's The Cheat?]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:56, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== You killed Pom-Pom! ====
When storng bad said he killed pom-pom it may be a reference to south park and them "killing Kenny"

*'''Decline''' Uh...no. "Storng" Bad was just trying to scare Marzipan with a crank call. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:36, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unmatchable Decline''' Spell right, blast ye! -Walking Armless
*'''Delcine.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*You may be a reference to the superfluousness of the Shift Key... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Indelible Cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' First thing, this was disqualified with the "may be." Second off, no flippin' way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*'''OMG WHAT WERE YOU THINKING''' This is the worst fact i have ever heard. You thing every time somebody says they killed somebody it means it was referencing to Kenny? Declined as delined can be.
*'''Decline.''' Yeah, or it could be reference to any other cartoon that once used the word "kill"! I bet you just wanted South Park to be mentioned on this site. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:40, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' If he always pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"? Just saying... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Almost everyone is saying that this is common. But really - other than "pimecone" and "pamcake", when has Homestar EVER switched Ms and Ns? I can't think of even one other time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Accurate, but not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:38, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move?''' Perhaps this would be worth noting in Homestar's character page?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:56, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' What, nobody can answer my question? Then this fact is very likely TRUE! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:31, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move.''' Substituting 'm' for 'n' may be a running gag... Leomard Sportsinterviews, anyone? --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:28, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:20, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:The Best Decemberween Ever]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:21, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk: Kick the Can]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' by a score of 4-6. Discussion moved to [[Talk:other days]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:27, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Pizzle the Nizzle ====
The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:other days]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:55, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

'''VERDICT:''' This fun fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:24, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:20, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Comment from original poster''' Homestar has shown he can at least get close to the proper key and note, even though the humor is his singing bites. If you listen to the difference in the notes in the opening line "Alone Again" and the "I cut the crusts off" line in "origins", they aren't even close. Much of the notes aren't even close to being the same length. This is not an intentional Dokken reference musically, and it would be false to think only Dokken has ever mentioned doing or wanting something in the morning light. -[[User:162.39.226.54|162.39.226.54]] (dynamic IP, maybe I should sign up...)
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Comment''' Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]]
*'''I decline thee! *smack*''' Homsar came back after being crushed by Heavy Lourde. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 16:08, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' If you applied this to TGS, they wouldn't have lasted 8 issues! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I dunno abput this one... it is true, but the way it is said, i just don't know.

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:02, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:12, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' They probably decided on "frickin'" for the same reason Fricker's did: it sounds like "chicken". --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Here's a [http://www.frickers.com/locations.asp Frickin'] link!
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Decline, the word "frickin'" used before "wings" means nothing to me. Are there even Frickers' in Antlanta?

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_4]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Decemberween_Teen_Girl_Squad]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Fatty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.
*'''Decline.''' The names look the same. The characters do not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''OT Comment (wasn't sure where to put this).''' Tomstiff, when you make an edit, you might want to try writing your summary after the asterisk-slash rather than before it. Otherwise, when you click on the entry's arrow on the history page, it won't take you to the proper section on the (rather lengthy) STUFF page. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:43, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Big Fat Decline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:45, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*"insert-random-flash-only-you-know-about" is not a valid source for TBC to reference. '''Hup Hup, Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:32, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I remember reading TBC don't watch other flash cartoons. I'll put a link to the interview here as soon as I find it. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:47, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Just the word Fatty, I don't think so.

====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:08, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:15, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** kerrek, vote in your post correctly, or your signature doesn't count.
*** anony, stfu with your sarcasm correctly, or your misplaced humor doesn't count. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 08:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Everybody, shuttup, or this fist in your face will count, at... breaking... your teeeth..
BTW, '''Declined''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Dreamail doesn't have a back button either. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:15, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

'''VERDICT''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:island]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:47, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:island]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:2 years]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:2 years]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:44, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:55, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Oh, cwap! It's Declined!''' Yeah, he looks outside to tell the PM.... [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

'''Verdict:''' After several months of voting, this fact was narrowly '''Accepted''' by a score of 3-2. The fact is now on [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], while the discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:00, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Slippers ====
Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:48, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''-- [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.
*Using a rusty stake knife does not make him a blade man, man. '''Declined man, man.''' [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless
**'''Decline for the pudgy.''' What the armless guy said. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' I think that is just Homsar-ness. --[[User:Lappy 486]]

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1 after several weeks of voting, this item is accepted. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinio''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Since there is a staircase next to Homestr's room, either his room is on the second floor or he has a basement." That should take care of any confusion.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' That is about as obvious as saying "if there is a building with 5 floors and you go to the top floor, you are on the 5th floor." [[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline-pthoo''' I don't think two syllables with the same tone constitutes a gag. [[User: Lappy 486]]

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Standing too close to you in Decline''' --[[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

'''Verdict:''' After many weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' as the re-written version below. The re-write now appears on [[animal]], and the discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 22:34, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:27, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]
*'''Accept but rewrite''' I think it is true, but take away the female lures part. --[[ User: Lappy 486]]

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:03, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I get what you're saying. But I don't like the 2nd sentence. --[[User: Lappy 486]]

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.
*'''Decline''' There, you just said it yourself. Shortly ''>>'''AFTER'''<<'' the release of this e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' It is gewd to tell exactly how many emails it lasted, but I'm not sure about the second part. Actually, I go with tomstiff. [[User: Lappy 486]]

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.
*'''Decline.''' It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says. And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''No no no.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.
*'''Decline.''' Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Dr. Decline.''' An eyepatch is a common accessory for villains. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:35, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Weak Accept.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept, Second''' I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
*<strike>'''Actual Decline.'''</strike> All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! <strike>I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds.</strike> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I'd agree if just ''one'' CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they ''all'' have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh*''' Oh, great. Now ''I'm'' undecided, too. What's the real issue here? Is the shape there? Yes. Is it pretty well-formed? Yes. Did TBC put it there intentionally? I say no, but admittedly that's just a gut feeling. And you never know with those guys. So, as a straight "didja' notice?" fact, I'm persuaded to change my vote to '''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:06, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Definite Accept''' Also, the reason they All have the spot is that the Cheat Commandos are carbon copies of one image(with accessories, facial hair, etc.). Plus, Mickey's head would be in color; The Mickey logo, however, is the solid black tri-circle seen on the CC's. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' I mean, ''I'' think it's interesting... --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:41, 13 Apr 2005
*'''<strike>Kevin 'Cline''' It's just a dot. It may be in that shape, but it's definitely unintentional. I mean, do you ever intentionally draw your dots in the shape of Mickey Mouse heads?</strike> Eh. I'm neutralizing. And gasp at the below comment. (EDIT) Ouch. Just struck out everything. Damn slash. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Weak Decline.''' Google search for Hidden Mickeys if you're interested in the time-honored tradition for Disney artists to hide Mickey heads in everything they can get their hands on. That being said, he Mickey head I see on the Commandos is fairly deformed. The ears are too small and too close together, for instance. Since this probably wouldn't pass muster for a Hidden Mickey, I'm giving a pass on this fact. (and for SP, yes I do draw my dots in the shape of Mickey heads!) <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 00:42, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Revise Slightly.''' "All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking that looks like the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg." Fun, kind of interesting, and true, even if it wasn't on purpose!--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I think it is just the shape of the spot. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Acceptinated!''' I see it, and it's still kinda interesting, even if it wasn't intentional. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 07:05, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

*'''Accept.''' It says "ages 3-5" quite clearly at the bottom right of each action figure package. Why was this STUFF-ed? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 03:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''What? Undelete it! Undelete it!''' Do something! Do anything! *ahem* Accept. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:23, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag. <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either. <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I think it is just a joke Strong Bad made up for the montage. He didn't really go out with a wagon fulla pancakes, did he? [[User: Lappy 486]]

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' by a score of 4-2. The fact has been re-posted on [[Strong Sad's Lament]], and the discussion can be found on [[Talk:Strong Sad's Lament]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*Not the first. I know, [[homsar]], [[homsar]]. But his message is longer than "Yeah, what is it Strong Bad?". Maybe with some rewording? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline, or severe rewrite.''' Given the fact that this could become false in the future, as well as the item's subjective opinion, this one shouldn't be included. And what about "Hey Reggie, is that rhinocerous around?" That's a legible sentence - in fact, everything he says is legible. It just doesn't make any sense. Possibly the word you're looking for is "intelligible" or something along the lines of "Homsar's message makes the most sense out of anything he has ever said." But again, you're dealing with the "could be become false later" issue. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:15, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:26, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept'''. Very noteworthy. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 02:00, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Opinion ("the most...ever") I don't think a rewrite would solve much. --[[User:The Paper|THE PAPER]] 16:42, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Severe Decline with a Complete Rewrite''' Is it noteworthy? Yes ... yes it is. Is it the most legible thing he's ever said? Dunno, I've never seen the Haddi-man's handwriting. It may be the most intelligible thing he's ever said ... to date. That's what makes this a bad fact: Homsar could become the most erudite cast member tomorrow. To quote from [http://www.ibras.dk/montypython/episode23.htm#3 Scott of the Sahara]...Rewrite! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:59, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I'm assuming this message was made in response to [[homsar]] to bring Homsar back since he was supposedly "killed". Also, since he was relatively new as a character, he wasn't as of yet uniquely nonsensical, as he is now. I'm believin' that's the reason this is the most legible thing he has ever written...I mean, said. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 02:02, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Yes, I meant intelligable, not legible. I forgot the word. I meant it makes sense the most. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:55, 16 April 2005 (MDT)
**Not to super nitpick, but the best word to use would probably be "sensible", since intelligible is just the ability to say words and sentences. He says stuff just fine, it just never makes any sense. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 03:07, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''"That's a real popular song! Who want's to hear that it's ACCEPTED!"''' Yep, I think this is a good point! Great job! *claps*--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 23:50, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Same thing that GillanTheVillain said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:31, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I thought that too, it was really insane. Thumbs Up! --[[User: Lappy 486]]

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 10:57, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Why was this STUFF'd? It's demonstrably true, and it's something most people wouldn't notice just by watching the 'toon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:40, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''2nd''' place. Ding! --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Answer''' Unless I'm missing something, it wasn't actually deleted from the 'toon in question - apparently, VC added it directly here. Which is technically how STUFF is SUPPOSED to work, but nobody uses it that way. ;) Anyway, this one is true enough that it could have been directly added and no one would have batted an eye, so '''Accept'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:35, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Mistah Hippo says Accept!''' By the way, I use STUFF that way. o.o --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:28, 23 Apr 2005

==Games==
===[[Thy Dungeonman]]===
====Earthbound====
Dungeonman might be a reference to Brick Road from "Earthbound," who was attempting to attain the title of "Dungeonman" throughout the course of the game.
*'''Decline''' Why, you ask? Let me explain the Dungeonman of Earthbound for a minute. The man attempts to MAKE dungeons, and in the end BECOMES a dungeon - which is not the same as Thy Dungeonman, who merely EXPLORES dungeons. And with no other connection, I can't let this one sit without a vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*(drops potato sacks) NO, IT'S NOT. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 10:57, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===
====Two names?====
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.
*'''Fhqwdlcinds''' So??? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So, rather dashing's real name name is Julio. Good catch! Just '''revise''' it so that its a little more obvious. Try:
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in
Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.
--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Me Declino Infinito.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:09, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''REWRITE'D!''' I was the one who wrote the thing anyway, so I rewrote it with -erson-san's suggestion. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:09, 14 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline the new one too''' It's still useless, and perhaps now moreso - are we next going to say that his name is Misspeller Jones? (Type "get plague" near the lantern.) It's a joke. Just go with it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' But, it might NOT be. Geez, why does everyone always decline everything around here? --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 10:45, 16 Apr 2005
*** Oh, wait, what was that word? "Might"? As in, you're not certain? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:08, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But the fact that Rather Dashing is saying "Me llamo Julio" as a conversation starter to the Kerrek would be a different case. Do you ever say "Hello my name is..." and mention an incorrect name? And about the "Misspeller Jones", is it not common for people to make up nicknames for people about their different characteristics? Like you call a clumbsy person "Butterfingers" even though his real name is Bob, or a bad typist "Misspeller Jones" even though his real name is Julio? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:34, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****It sounds to me like the sort of thing you'd find in the first five pages of a beginners' Spanish textbook, and without otherwise knowing what to say to the Kerrek, he just rambled relative nonsense. We know his real name, and it's not Julio. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:06, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******We dont ''know'' that his real name is Rather Dashing, the character doesn't actually say it himself. Just the narrator. And whos more likely to know his own name, the narrator or Rather Dashing? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 02:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*******So, at the end of the game, the NARRATOR tells Trogdor (who repeats it - in voice acting!) that his name is Rather Dashing? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:17, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
********Sorry, I never played to the end of the game. But honeslty, what are the odds that if he was talking nonsence he would utter a phrase that just happens to be a very popular opening statement when meeting new people? And, there is no where in the game where it tells you Rather Dashing can't speak Spanish. Perhaps he though Kerrek spoke spanish.
*********Yes, I just double-checked the ending. The narration says "You scream that your name is Rather Dashing", followed by a long speech with a computer voice reading along (a direct quote by Trogdor), ending in "It will be a pleasure to burninate you, Rather Dashing." One random piece of text may give small credence to your theory that RD's real name is Julio, but the entire rest of the game contradicts it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:24, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Perhaps a rewrite than to indiciate that Rather Dashing's name may be Julio according to that text?--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 02:31, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I don't think Fun Facts is a place for theories that "may be" true based on a possible interpretation of one statement. '''Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:30, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yet Another Comment.''' We all know that "rather dashing" is a term meaning you're good-looking. Maybe he just calls himself that because he thinks he's, well, good-looking. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:41, 17 Apr 2005 (EST)
*How do we know he just didn't read that off of a Spanish textbook? It's just as much speculation to say that Rather Dashing CAN speak Spanish as it is to say he can't. Can't you just accept that this is random TBC humor? Seriously, this is a bigger stretch than Dhalsim. '''Me llamo decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment Numero Tres.''' Look, we're never going to get anywhere like this, and I'm sick of the arguments. Someone lock this thing, PLEASE. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:53, 19 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' Throughout all of the Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer, Rather Dashing is referred to as ... Rather Dashing. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:25, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting this item was unanimously declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:53, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

'''Verdict:''' After several weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 23:09, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I think it is pretty much already stated. --[[User: Lappy 486]]

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. '''All Your Second Are Belong To Us''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Black Spots====
Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

*'''Decline''' Maybe if I understood what this was saying I might like it more, but it still doesn't seem right. What do you guys think? -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declininated''' I don't get it. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:10, 19 Apr 2005
*'''Allow me''' I THINK what is being said is this:
The black portion of Stinkoman's mask is missing in his sprite form, because
it is a ripoff of Megaman sprites.
*However, this is pretty useless AND false (it's not a ripoff of Megaman sprites, just strongly based on them.) Most old, small sprites lack detail seen in their fully-drawn form. So I must concur with '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And you can't see Mario's nostrils in Super Mario Bros. So? '''Let's Declining Love''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you asking for a Decline?!?''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]
*'''Decline''' I'd agree with you, but there's proof that says otherwise.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:11, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
=== Cross-Toon Facts ===
==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1, this item is declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:The discussion can be found at the [[HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts_Archive#Parents_.28declined.29|STUFF Archive]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:57, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Glossary

2005-04-25T03:07:26Z

GregHosting: /* Emails? */

==BIG Clean up==

I have removed several items that now have complete and informative articles to explain them. This should not pose a problem for a total H*R noobie who comes to this Wiki looking for info, as they should find the article before the glossary anyway. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 01:21, 7 Jan 2005 (MST)

==Anchors==
The anchors are not working. I'm not sure I know the proper formatting for anchors in MediaWiki. Anybody? --[[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] 12:50, 16 Sep 2004 (MST)

I'm moving this off the main page to here, made the glossary look cluttered. Plus I think this kind of discussion goes on the Talk page.
* I thought it was 20XP6! -- DragonDoom5
However, I'm pretty sure it's 20X6 with no P. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 12:58, 16 Sep 2004 (MST)

== Emails? ==

Is the definition of the word "Email" even necessary? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:26, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)
:Seconded. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 03:07, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Intelligence ==

Is the definition of intelligence/intelligent necessary? Isn't this glossary for words that would not be found outside of h*r? [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 09:04, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

Talk:Main Page

2005-04-25T01:43:26Z

GregHosting: /* New logo */

:''In order to shorten the size of this page, all conversations before the 30th of December have been archived. You can access the archive [[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive|here]].''

== What the crap? ==

Why am I not on the list of registered users? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

:You're number 439.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:42, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

== 2004/2005 Tsunami Donation Link ==

I was just reading up on the [[Wikipedia:2004 Indian Ocean Earthquake|Indian Ocean Earthquake]] and realized how incredibly horrible this event was, and I'm seriously thinking we need some kind of banner to a donation link to the Wikipedia donation page. Or something like that. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

How very specific your request is.
-[[User:Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf|Fhq]]

Fhq, what's your point? It's a good idea, don't give him crap because he's thinking larger than himself.
Bird, perhaps you should send Joey a PM on the forum. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]

:Just in case anyone was wondering, we won't be adding a notice to the Main Page. If you'd like to put a notice on your userpage, that would be acceptable.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:14, 7 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Dubious reference solution ==

Over the past few Strongbad e-mail articles, I've read a lot of (to be frank) farfetched suggestions of references that TBCs are presumably making to other stuff. Maybe, if you're 100% sure that something is intended as a reference (for example, a character name or line very specific to one TV show), then it's fine to say it's a reference. But if something just seems to remind you of something else (for example, a song that sounds kinda-sorta like a song that was played in the 23rd episode of some TV series), then it's more accurate to say that it is '''reminiscent''' of something, rather than a reference to something.

Just a suggestion.

:A wonderful suggestion, and it goes along with the ongoing discussion we are having regarding the overhaul of our current fun fact system. Thank you for your concern and idea.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:52, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Locking down the main page ==

I visited today and noticed that the main page had been defaced. Someone else restored the last known good version, but it seems to me that the front page should not be editable by just anyone for this exact reason. Even the main page of Wikipedia is off-limits to anyone except staff...
:Yes, I want the main page protected as well... [[User:woddfellow2|<nowiki></nowiki>]]-<tt>[[User:woddfellow2|woddfellow2]]|[[User talk:woddfellow2|?</tt>]] 14:05, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
-It happened again. This must be done NOW.

:Look, the template does nothing to prevent trolling; it's a redundancy. Locking down the Main Page is a good way to go, since nothing really changes there, anyway. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:26, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)

I find it funny how the MediaWiki's been around for at least 5 months now and only NOW are people starting to complain about wanting the Main Page locked down. Personally, I think it's prime idiot bait, as in "if you deface the main page, you're automatically not fit to be on the wiki." --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 15:02, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)

You could have a way to detect whether someone is severely defaceing the page or not. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]

::Okay, due to several requests and the seeming lack of need to update the Main Page, I've protected it. Please note that I do not like having it protected, this being a wiki and all, but I agree that it really doesn't need to be edited that much and is just sitting there as troll fodder. Thanks to all who helped with that last batch of defacement.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:12, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)

:::I never change the main page, so I'm pretty happy with that, but I do have one concern. Might the Trollers who automatically go to work on the Main Page to start with, now be forced to move onto smaller, harder to detect defacements on other pages? What if we're only spreading the diease? [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|?Thunderbird?]]</tt>'']] 18:46, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

::::A good concern, and lucky for me I have this wonderful ditty to cite:
::::''...the fact is that for every troll with too much spare time, there are 100 users with just as much spare time ready and eager to undo that troll's (un)work. The fact is, the trolls always get bored before the users do, because the users are emotionally invested in what they've created and the Wiki moves fast enough that the average trolling only lasts about two minutes before it's reverted. A troll's work is hardly ever noticed by anybody, but a legitimate user's work is always noticed and appreciated. That's why wikis work. — InterruptorJones 15:37, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)'' ([[User_talk:FireBird#Question_from_Troll|ref]])
::::Simply put, that's just how wikis work. We'll notice no matter where or how small, and they will get tired.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:55, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

::::::That is, unless said troll or trolls are emotionally invested in destroying the wiki. --Guest

::Good answer, thanks. Come to think of it, I guess if everyone has on their watchlist the pages they created, or just care for, then likely whatever page is edited will be watched by SOMEBODY. Thanks for the quick reply. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|?Thunderbird?]]</tt>'']] 17:36, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)

Well, I want to edit the main page. I have a feature in mind that I think would be appreciated by all (I know I'll use it), but would require a little updating every now and again. How about you just make the main page editable by registered members? Disallow guests from editing it. I await the unlocking to reveal my idea.
--Rgb9000

:If it's such a great idea, why can't you just say it? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 00:25, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Fair question. I want to do the actual edit so that I'll be properly credited in the history for the implementation. --[[User:Rgb9000|Rgb9000]] 01:28, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:Well, it's a Wiki, so you can't really take credit beyond putting on your userpage that you were the one to do something. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:45, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Rejects? ==
Where did Rejects go?? What the? -- Asploder

:Away. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 23:57, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)

::Yes, they're all categorised now, but I don't know where they went. [[User:woddfellow2|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—<tt>[[User:woddfellow2|woddfellow2]]|[[User talk:woddfellow2|?</tt>]] 18:08, 14 Feb 2005 (MST)

They all went to better places. Characters are now characters, items are now classified as items. Fancy that ;) [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 21:48, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Confusion over moving dates ==

The [[Main Page]] says that HRWiki will be moving 'from early Friday morning (Feb. 25) to late Sunday evening (Feb. 27)', but every other page says 'early Friday morning (Mar. 4) to late Sunday evening (Mar. 6)'. Someone should probably fix that on the main page, as it appears it's not closed presently. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 05:04, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)

:The date changed. A hard refresh (likely ctrl+F5) of the Main Page should clear your cache and solve the problem.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:16, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

== New ==

Hi, I'm new and not on the list.--[[User:mailman8|mailman8]] 09:19, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
:Yes you are, you're number 895 →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 09:50, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

what number am i?--[[User:Harry|Harry]] 10:03, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

Here, [[Special:Listusers|find out for yourself]]. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 10:46, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

Thanks--[[User:mailman8|mailman8]] 11:10, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Favorite Character List ==
It think it might be nice if some o' you guys set up a "Most Popular Character" page to find out who are the most popular main characters in the Homestar Runner universe. There seems to be enough wiki users here to get an accurate idea. In this page, people would say who their favorite character is on the talk section (and their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc favorite as well if they want.) and then someone would add them all up into a graph to show who are the most/least popular character and so on. (And remember, MAIN characters only) To keep things simple, it could be a character would get 8 "popularity points" for being a first favorite, 7 for second, 6 for third, and so on. Whoever gets the highest popularity points goes in the most favorite section. Also, only registered users count. I dunno... this could be difficult and messy and inaccuriate, but if done right it could be very interesting.
Anyways... opinions anyone? --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 15:46, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Sorry, but this here's a vote for no. I think it could be a good idea under a different venu, such as the [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page Fanstuff Wiki], or perhaps a poll in the [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ Forum]. But since this is simply a knowledge base, it wouldn't really fit in too well.
[[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|?Thunderbird?]]</tt>'']] 16:37, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I agree with Thunderbird. It's just not necessary. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:::What if it was made in Fanstuff Wiki? Don't care too much if it never happens. Besides, I wouldn't have the know-how and stuff to make a page like that anyway. Someone else would have had to do it. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 17:09, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::Yeah, that'd be awesome. Run with it. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:::::I went and I ran with it. You can check it out in the Interactive section of Fanstuff H*R Wiki. :) It's called, "Character Popularity"--[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 16:47, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Article of the day? ==

Why not have a featured article like Wikipedia?

:We don't have any featured articles, so we couldn't have a featured article of the day.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:49, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

::We could do it like the Fark.com [http://216.32.91.95/Main_Page Wiki] does it. Each month has 7 articles (one for each day of the week) that rotate around every week (with a new set every month). For instance, you create a page called [[HRWiki:Featured article/Tuesday, March]] then just do an include on the main page like:

<nowiki>== Featured article ==</nowiki> 
<nowiki>{{HRWiki:Featured article/{{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTMONTH}}}}</nowiki>

That would run automatically for a whole month with only 7 articles. --[[User:noclip|noclip]] 18:53, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

:The fact remains that we still don't have featured articles.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:05, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
::You don't need to "have" them. You can just make em. Start a poll of which articles should be on the front page, take those and copy-paste them into HRWiki:Featured article/Whatever day and use that link on the front page.

== New logo ==

How about it?

[[Image:hrwlogoidea-fixed.png]]

[[User:noclip|noclip]] 18:59, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I had this alternate too

[[Image:hrlogowithhr.png]]

[[User:noclip|noclip]] 19:26, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I like the one with the dropshadow, but would be happy with either of them... [[User:Glutnix|Glutnix]] 03:03, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

I've started a "Poll" about this

:Sorry, but we don't do polls. I've deleted your poll page accordingly.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:02, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
::JoeyDay told me to start one. It was just to see whether the users were for it. He said it was okay and that the decision would be left up to the admins anyway. It'd have been nice if you protected the page and posted the results instead of straight up deleting it.

:::Well, if it matters, I really don't like the green "Wiki". Another color would look nice.
:::And Homestar Runner looks a little bit bumpy. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]
::::I would have used another color but TBC pretty much used everything on the logo.

:::::Just because it's been used once doesn't mean you can't use it again. Orange or grey would look nice (I think). →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:::The first one looks great. I don't know about the green, but it looks better than the current logo. ~[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]~

::::The first one is perfect. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:10, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::::I love them both! Actiually, contrary to what these folks are saying, I like the green (probably because it's my favourite colour... xD). But I agree that Homestar looks bumpy. The first ones real nice, though.

::On second thought, the green looks nice, actually. ~[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]~

:I think that the first one is incredible! Nice work! I love the green! →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:32, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

:I Think the second one should be used. I prefer it over the one that's up now. And I also like the green "wiki". That logo looks really, really nice. But as for the first one... I don't know, the drop shadow just doesn't look H*Rish, and it's good to see H*R (the character) on the logo. In conclusion... the second one. --[[User:70.25.9.49|70.25.9.49]] 01:52, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
::Have you seen the H*R loading screen? It's got the drop shadow.
:::Yeah, but the logo in the loading screen is round, and I think the shadow isn't quite as dark. With the "Wiki" in there, the shadow looks like it should be more complex, but then it would be too realistic. Well, that's how I feel about it.

:Though I am leaning toward the second logo, I like the first one almost as much (the green isn't a problem to me). Both logos are pretty good. Nice job. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:33, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:Not to be a picky monkey, but they look a tad bit jaggy...do ya think you could smooth it out a bit, especially the one with Homestar on it? - [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 16:35, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Oh my gosh that rocks out loud I love the green it fits so well. I love it love it love it. For cerial. (does that count as "internet slang"?)--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]

I like it. Dropshadow. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 01:09, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==Scared of 1.4.0==
I'm scared of this upgrading to 1.4.0 
I didn't like what it did to the fanstuff. Because... 
1. Different font. It's smaller and I don't like it as much. 
2. History erased. I expecially do not want that to happen. Not to mention it could leave some page histery blank, making them targets for non-revertable trolling. 
So, what I'm trying to say, is that if you can't get past these two problems, I think I'd prefer this wiki staying in the 1.3's. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
::I ran an upgrade to 1.4 a week ago on a pretty big wiki (~200 articles), it went seamlessly. The main page was defaulted, but that was easily reversible through history. Other than that, it shouldn't mess anything up. My thoughts, go ahead and do the upgrade.
:::Well, look at what happened to Fanstuff Wiki. Almost all history was erased, the font is smaller and uploading pictures doesn't work. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:20, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Character Evolution, The Stick ==

I posted the first of my suggestions on the discussion page for the FAQ, which of course was not the right place. If it doesn't make any sense what I am about to say, maybe how I worded it there does.

===Suggestion #1: Character Evolution===

In the [[Character Evolution]] pages, we should not treat the Yello Dello and Reddest Radish versions as designs. We shouldn't even include them on the page (perhaps in a sub-section "Other ways so-and-so has been drawn") because these were NEVER solid designs, they were never intended to be and simply aren't. The ''designs'' themselves are valid when talking about the Reddest Radish but they are still not necessary for the page.

===Suggestion #2: The Stick===

I believe that the Stick should not be treated as an Inside Joke, but rather as a full-fledged 'place.' I think it's earned that title, don't you?

Ok, so everyone leave your thoughts, comment or whatever here. I hope to get these suggestions used.

EDIT: I also believe that [[fhqwhgads]] should return to beign an inside joke.

*I agree with all three of those. Reddest Radish and Yello Dello aren't real designs. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==Editing issues==

For some reason, I can't edit the WikiTroll page. In fact, I can't even edit its talk page! I'm not banned (I can edit other pages just fine.) Every time I try to edit those pages, though, it informs me that I'm trying to edit a page that's just been edited - even though there's no new edit on the Recent Changes page or anywhere else. I was trying to add [[User:160.7.1.12|160.7.1.12]], a repeat offender who defaced [[long pants]] and [[Strong Bad Email]]. Can anyone else edit the WikiTroll page? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:31, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
:It's a result of the move to MediaWiki 1.4. Lots of people are having problems editing certain pages, including the [[HRWiki:WikiTroll Archive|WikiTroll Archive]], [[Strong Bad's Room Main Page]], [[japanese cartoon]], and most importantly [[HRWiki:WikiTroll|WikiTroll]] and [[HRWiki Talk:WikiTroll|Talk:WikiTroll]]. For more information, go to [[HRWiki Talk:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.4]] --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]] 17:39, 6 Apr 2005 (BST)
:I too had the same problems editing the WikiTroll and WikiTroll Talk pages, which I posted on the [[HRWiki Talk:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.4]]. Annoying, yes? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 12:48, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
:: I know I'm not the only one annoyed by a lack of WikiTroll page. Perhaps we should set up a temporary replacement? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:06, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
::: That sounds like a great idea, since we've had a frustrating number of repeat trolls recently, like that guy who keeps changing the pictures around. We could call it "Temporary WikiTroll". <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:06, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
:::: I called it [[HRWiki:WikiTroll 2.0|WikiTroll 2.0]]. Too bad I can't edit the main page or the old WikiTroll page to link to it. Sigh. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:45, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
:::::Great jorb! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:15, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
::::::Now if only a mod would put it in an easily-accessible spot... or acknowledge its existence... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:12, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
:::::::So, have none of the mods noticed the WikiTroll problem? Hasn't anyone noticed that the Wiki Troll page hasn't updated since the move? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 04:14, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)

== Watchlist is acting a little strange... ==

The watchlist is looking a bit weird - what happened? Was the database restored from a backup or something?

''(1 pages watched not counting talk pages; 120000 total pages edited''
''since cutoff; checking watched pages for recent edits... show and''
''edit complete list.)''

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Below are the last '''2''' changes in last '''3''' days.
Show last 1 | 2 | 6 | 12 hours 1 | 3 | 7 days all
'''14 Apr 2005'''
(diff) (hist) . . HRWiki talk:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.4; 23:21 . .
12.2.235.67 (Talk) ''(→Creating a New Account)''
'''3 Apr 2005'''
(diff) (hist) . . '''N''' HRWiki:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.4; 11:04 . . Tom
(Talk) ''(Add stuff.)''
--[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 13:14, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah, I'm seeing 120000 total pages edited too. You're the first one to notice, but I'm guessing this happens for most/all of users. Looks like my hope that our [[HRWiki talk:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.4|problems since upgrading]] were all fixed has been dashed.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:29, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
::Thing is, this didn't happen at the same time as any of the changes (at least not that I know of). Although, the most obvious culprit is the time zone change, but the problem didn't occur until a while after that happened.
::I just noticed that the total pages edited field is always 40000*days - so if you select 6 hours (0.25 days), it shows 10000. I'd like to know where that figure comes from... but I'd need file and database access to verify, and that would probably be a little too much to ask :) --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 23:39, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:I've just seen it as well. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 16:36, 20 April 2005 (BST)
:Same here -- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 23:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:This happened to me too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:20, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
::Pidgeot, if you have any specific queries you need me to run, just ask. I'm all about getting to the bottom of this.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:16, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:::I'm afraid I need to examine things close up for me to try and determine anything - I have a number of ideas, but testing any of them is an extensive process, and it would be much easier to do this myself.
:::Could you possibly supply me with a MySQL database dump and a copy of your MediaWiki installation (in case you have files that for some reason are different from a standard MediaWiki 1.4 installation), so I can work on it remotely? I can supply you with a variety of methods of getting the files to me - FTP, a GMail account to send to, etc. (You can e-mail me if you want to discuss it more privately - just click the (e) in my sig.) --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 17:20, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::::Heh, I just tried that (e), but it looks like our User email function isn't working for some reason. The link in the toolbox doesn't show up on user pages either. Anyway, send me an email at [mailto:tom@hrwiki.org tom@hrwiki.org] and we'll talk. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:07, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::::Fixed, thanks to Pidgeot's help. For more information, see [http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1778 MediaWiki bug 1778].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:16, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Refactoring the Main Page ==

How would people feel about having the main page refactored to be more like Wikipedia? I think we've got enough content that we could highlight a different article each week and keep a rolling "did you know" list. I also like Wikipedia's category links at the top of the main page. What does everyone think? [[User:JoeyDay|<nowiki></nowiki>]] —[[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] [[User talk:JoeyDay|(Talk)]] 22:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:I suggested this too up in "Article of the Day?" on this page. I fully support it.

::I don't think out category system is set up to be navigated like Wikipedia's is. Additionally, running the "Article of the whatever" would be a full-time job. We'd also need someone to come up with a system. The idea sounds nice, but how would you do it? Remember, the english language Wikipedia has 550 times as many legitimate content articles and 165 times as many registered users as we do.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:22, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::You're right. I don't think we have enough content to run an article of the day, but I wouldn't mind being in charge of a weekly or monthly featured article. It might be nice to set up a page where users could nominate articles to be featured, just to give me ideas. I also wouldn't mind scouting the wiki for strange facts to post in a "did you know" section. In fact, I think that would be fun. In short, I'm willing to do it if people want to see it done. In regard to categories, we could simply use our current [[Toons]], [[Strong Bad Email]], etc. pages instead of pointing to the categories themselves. An "in the news" section (though probably called something else) would also be useful for a quick glance at the most recent toons/emails.

:::As a corollary to this, we would probably want to move specifically wiki-related content off the front page and onto some sort of community portal page. [[User:JoeyDay|<nowiki></nowiki>]] —[[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] [[User talk:JoeyDay|(Talk)]] 18:14, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::I've created a [[User:JoeyDay/Main Page Mock-up|mock-up]] of my main page idea. Not much different from Wikipedia's main page, but I figure what works for them should work just as well for us. I would of course build a bunch of templates to include most of the content. This is just a start. I don't want to spend too much more time on it unless more people want to see it happen. [[User:JoeyDay|<nowiki></nowiki>]] —[[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] [[User talk:JoeyDay|(Talk)]] 20:13, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::I'm fully for this new Main Page. It looks great! I think we will be able to have a new article everyweek and everything. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 01:22, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:Although the new features are cool, I don't like how it makes the original list of pages less accessable. Much less accessable. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 01:52, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::I don't like the "Browse" or any of that other stuff on there- one reason I really like this wiki is because it's so simple. Browse and all that other stuff make it sort of confusing. To me, anyways. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

:::The mock up looks nice, but there are still some things I don't think we need. You solved my category issue very well, but like Firebird mentioned, those links in the "Browse" line there are a bit cumbersome, and I can't actually picture someone using them. I think they work for Wikipedia simply because Wikipedia has a lot of subjects. We don't. How would our [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Browse|Browse]] page look?
:::Joshua makes another good point. Quite a few of the article links were left out. This might be because they would end up somewhere else in the new system, but I like having links for things like [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]] on there.
:::Now that I've seen more of the proposal, I'm liking the idea of featured something of the something, and the idea of a "What's new" section on the front page, but I'm not feeling good about the "Did you know?" section. That would be a job and a half for someone to manage.
:::Oh, I noticed for Wikipedia's "anyone can edit" link you went to our :About page. I kind of like the newer [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Introduction|Introduction guide]] that Wikipedia set up back in December. I'd be willing to set that up for us.
:::Oh, and the portal is a great idea too.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:32, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I have laid out a preliminary Categorization scheme on my [[User:Drhaggis|User Page]] for use in the new main page navigation This represents all of the top-level categories. Comments are welcome. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 17:02, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::I've also created a [[User:Tom/Introduction Mock-up|Introduction mock-up]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:35, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::Looks great Tom. Are we getting a community portal? It would be a great non-forum way to discuss the Wiki. If so it should be called "Meet-up at the Stick" or some such thing [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 17:44, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::I think we're seriously considering it, as Joey mentioned it in his mock up and discussion as well. "Meet-up at The Stick" sounds like the right name for it.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:49, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::::Call me stupid, but I'm not exactly sure what a community portal is. Can anyone explain it to me? →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

:::::Wikipdia has their [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Community Portal|Commnuity Portal]] you could check out. Basically, they don't have a forum and use the wiki itself for discusion of wiki-related topics.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:57, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==Interviews/Presentations==

Since we're now starting to make pages for genuine interviews of, and presentations by [[TBC]], what about actually putting them somewhere, besides just 'sightings'. I figure that since they're put out BY [[TBC]], and not more or less fanstuff, they should get their own section linked to from the main page, under Wiki Stuff, maybe as 'Interviews' or something, and then as such, sort out all the websites we have with transcrips of interviews and stuff, and transcribe them, maybe put a few fun facts in there, ect, make them all genuine pages. I think it would really add to the usefulness of the Wiki. Any ideas? If the sysops are up to adding to the main page, I volunteer to personally spearhead, to an extent, (I'll have much more spare time as of May the 1st), this undertaking, along with transcribing, ect. Plus many of the interviews are already transcribed on the pages we're linked to, our transcriptions could just edit for typos, maybe censor a word or two, but be useful incase these pages are ever shut down, the interviews lost forever. Okay, any comments/suggestions? ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 01:08, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Talk:anything

2005-04-23T22:57:53Z

GregHosting: /* Dan VS. Jerome (Declined) */

*When Homestar sings his never-ending soda song at the end, it sounds a bit like the tune from "Eleanor Rigby", another Beatles song. --> This is not Eleanor Rigby, it is the theme from "The Never Ending Story." -Fuzzy

== Declined Fun Facts ==

These were on the [[STUFF]] page and declined. If you wish to contest the removal of any of these, post a comment here (make sure it won't be confused with any of the original votes).

=== Dan VS. Jerome (Declined) ===
The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s>
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Too obvious for words →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' The e-mail is actually from "Dan", and Strong Bad refers to him as "Jerome"
*'''Delete''' I can't believe you actually thought that was notable. -Walking Armless
*'''Comment and general retraction of votes''' Okay, first of all, I still don't think it was that obvious. However, now that emailer nicknames are listed on the "sbemail by name" page (or maybe they always were and I never noticed) it seems a lot less useful, and I officially move to '''Neutral'''. Don't expect me to be so generous on the other facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:02, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline or rewrite''' When I first saw this, I not only noticed that Homestar called Dan "Jerome" but I also saw it as an OBVIOUS reference to the way Strong Bad changes e-mailers names around - since Homestar was trying to fill in for Strong Bad and copy him (i.e. trying to figure out what an abbreviation in the signature stands for), I saw this as Homestar attempting to answer e-mails like Strong Bad and deliberately changing the e-mailers name around. If anything, this particular fun fact ought to reflect the reference to Strong Bad doing the same with other e-mailers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:06, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
**Also, at the risk of advocating some forward referencing, I think it's notable that in the very next e-mail [[the process]], Strong Bad makes fun of Em's name in almost the exact same way that Homestar makes fun of FL. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''SEVERE DECLINE; DELETE!''' You hit land, Cpt. Obvious!
*'''Decline''' Maybe he was talking to someone else in his imaginary class --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 22:57, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

50 emails

2005-04-23T22:38:16Z

GregHosting: /* Inside References */

[[Image:sbemail50.PNG|thumb|Whoa. That TV has words on it.]]

'''Strong Bad Email #50'''

In honor of his 50th email, Strong Bad tries to answer 50 emails, only to have Homestar screw it up.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Strong Bad]] (Easter egg), [[The Sneak]] (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Telegraph Room]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' November 11, 2002

'''Running Time:''' 3:28

'''Page Title:''' Lordy, Lordy, Look who's over there!

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Oh, girl... I want to email you so nice. ''{stops singing}'' All right, everybody. In honor of this, my 50th email, I've decided to answer 50 of your emails! Ready? Go!

''{reading}''

<pre>Email #1
Dear strong bad,
Can you please write a book about come-back jokes!
Mike
Canada</pre>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' More like, ''you'' write a book about come-back jokes, ''NERD!'' ''{hits enter}''

''{reading}''

<pre>Email #2
Dear Stong Bad,
what are some cool ways to spell different words? example, fat = phat
matt</pre>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, you mean like ''{types}'' strong = stong? ''{stops}'' You seem to like that one. Or how about this? matt = MATT! ''{He types matt = DELETED!, and MATT!! appears on the screen as the email is deleted}''

''{reading}''

<pre>Email #3
Strong Bad,
What is your favorite leg?
Jess and Tiff
Los Angeles, CA</pre>
''{He stops at "Jess and Tiff."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, I like all kinds of legs. You know, like the Great Leg... The Leg of Hope... Tape-Leg? ''{the phone rings}'' Oh, man! I was on a roll! Don't nobody go nowheres. I'll be right back. ''{He walks off and answers the phone}'' Hello? Yeah, this is me.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{offscreen}'' Strong Bad!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{on the phone}'' I dunno, what kind of savings?

''{Homestar Runner walks in carrying a fondue pot}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey Strong Bad, I brought back your fondue pot... Strong Bad? ''{He looks around, and then sees the computer}'' Whoa. That TV has words on it. ''{He sits down at the computer}''

''{Homestar re-reads the email}''

<pre>Strong Bad,
What is your favorite leg?
Jess and Tiff</pre>

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Um, ''{typing}'' Hey Crapface! Why dontcha blow it out your ear. Your buddy, Strong Bad. ''{enter}'' Whoa, another one!

''{reading}''

<pre>Email #4
Dear Strong Bad
How do you type with gloves on your hands?

Scott
Surrey BC Canada</pre>

Oh, even I know what to do with this one. ''{types}'' BALEETED! ''{hits enter, nothing happens}'' Huh? Oh. Umm... ''{types}'' DELTEATED! ''{enter, nothing happens}'' No? Uhh... Del Taco?

''{Cut to Strong Bad talking on the phone}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, they're more like elephant feet. Yeah. So what do you think, like, 50 bucks? Sounds good. I'll leave the key under the at-may.

''{Back to Compy 386. Homestar has typed in many, many words, but none of them do anything.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What is that stupid word? ''{He types in "da cheated" and hits enter. The computer plays a tune and the blue "Flagrant System Error" screen comes up. It reads:}''

<pre>FLAGRANT SYSTEM ERROR

The system is down. I dunno know what
you did, moron, but you sure
screwed everything up good.</pre>

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh oh. This does not look good for Homestar Runner.

''{Cut back to Strong Bad on the phone}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay. Bye!

''{He hangs up and walks off. Cut back to the computer}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay. Back to the 50 emails. ''{He sits down. There's a piece of paper over the monitor with a Windows error window titled "This is real." It says "System report: Everything is fine. Nothing is ruined." Strong Bad reads the message}'' Everything is fine. Nothing is ruined. Oh, that's good to hear. Let's just, wait a minute... ''{he tears off the paper and sees the blue screen}'' Wha... Flagrant Error? What the... Where did all my emails go?

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What? The paper? This isn't over yet! Go back up, go back up! ''{He swats at the paper and then tries to hold it up off the screen}'' Wait, wait! I think I can remember some of those emails! Uh, "Dear Strong Bad, why are you so awesome? Yours truly, Dumpface." Well, Dumpface, it's a long story. It all started with The Cheat one day when he was going down to the...

''{The screen, and Strong Bad's voice, slowly fade out. A paper plate with a Swiss Cake Roll with a "50" candle on it fades in. [[The Paper]] comes down again.}''

== Easter Eggs ==

*When Strong Bad types the word "book," you can click on it and bring up a picture of Strong Bad's idea of this book idea.
* At the end, click on the "50th email [[Swiss Cake Roll]]" to see a funny "Olde Thyme" Strong Bad cartoon.
:''{A title screen reading "Strong Bad and The Electronic Message" appears. Cut to The Strong Bad reading a telegram}''
<pre>Dear Sir Strong Bad stop
How do you manage the telegramophone whilst
wearing gentleman's sport gloves? stop

Signed Lord Elsington Hallstingdingdingworth</pre>
:'''THE STRONG BAD:''' Curses! This is all anyone ever asks me! ''{manning the telegraph}'' You buffoon! Stop. You...carpetbagger. Stop. I'll give you what's for!
:''{The Sneak walks onscreen}''
:'''THE STRONG BAD:''' The Sneak! How was that? I told that poor sap I'd give him what's for! Yes... now go and steal me fresh jam!
:''{The Sneak scurries off}''

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*When old-timey Strong Bad responds to the guy in the Easter egg, he calls him a "carpet bagger." A carpet bagger is actually a post-Civil War term for a Northerner moving to the South after the war to get rich or gain power.
*When Strong Bad says "I'll leave the key under the at-may," he is speaking pig Latin. At-may would mean mat.

===Trivia===
*This is one of the few e-mails where one of the characters touches [[The Paper]].
*The title of the page may be a reference to the phrase "Lordy, Lordy! Look who's forty!" which is usually used on someone's 40th birthday, even though this is Strong Bad's 50th email.
* This is one of few e-mails where the paper actually comes down twice.

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad is talking to a potential customer about 'elephant feet'. Apparently he plans to sell Strong Sad's legs on the black market, or something. (Or have him assassinated; See [[fingers]]. ) This makes sense in the context of the previous email asking him what his favorite leg is.
*When Homestar first calls out "Strong Bad", before he is on screen, it sounds like he's saying "Stong Bad"; in reference to the second e-mail
*It is strange that Homestar calls the computer screen a "TV [that] has words on it," yet he immediately knows he can type a response to the e-mail.
*This is the first email in which we see the "DELETED" screen on the Compy. The background is blue, whereas it was green on the Tandy.

===Glitches===
*When you adjust the contrast while Homestar is at the computer, his reflection isn't affected.
===Inside References===
*Strong Bad starts by saying "ready, go!" This is a reference to [[spring cleaning]], when he said that to start his spring cleaning.
*When he responds to Email #3 ("What is your favorite leg?"), Strong Bad mentions tape-leg. This is a reference to [[tape-leg]], one of his past emails, and represents yet another [[Tape leg|inside joke]] of the Homestarverse.
* The phrase "The system is down" is from [[techno]].
* Email #2 spells Strong as Stong, just as Strong Bad does when imitating a random email in the fourth postcard in [[vacation]].

===Real-World References===
*When Strong Bad talks about the Great Leg and the Leg of Hope, he may be referring to the SNES RPG Secret of Mana. You can upgrade the Great Bow into the Bow of Hope.
*The blue "Flagrant Error" screen is a spoof of similarly vague system errors ("performed an illegal operation"), such as the Windows 9x [[Wikipedia:BSOD|BSOD]].

===Homestar's attempts at [[DELETED]]===
*Baleeted
*Delteated
*Deltaco
*freaky D'td
*chadeated
*deedleated
*meathead?
*dltd
*duh lee ted
*teeteeted
*[[Bubs|bubs]]
*diddley dee
*repeated
*733t3d
*3-D movie
*del monte
*ddddddd
*[[The Cheat|da cheat]]ed
*diggity
*beefeated
*stupid word
*believe it
*received it
*stratego
*3TDted
*seabed
*whitebread
*open sesame
*marie
*hello
*de la soul
*geleted
*feeted
*Some of the commands Homestar tries are references. Some are more obvious than others:
**'del monte' — A popular brand of fruit juice.
**'beefeated' — 'Beefeaters' is a nickname for the Yeomen Warders of the Tower of London. There is also a 'Beefeaters' London Dry Gin sold in most liquor stores.
**'meathead?' — This is probably referring to a catch phrase from the sitcom 'All in the Family' in which Archie Bunker called his son-in-law Mike 'Meathead.'
**'stratego' — Stratego is a board game.
**'open sesame' — Famous words from the tale 'Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves'.
**'de la soul' — De La Soul is a hip-hop group made of Posdnous, Trugoy, and P.A. Mase. They are best known for their groundbreaking 1989 album "3 Feet High and Rising".
**'3-D Movie' — could be a reference to the very fun, but overlooked PC game, Microsoft 3-D Movie Maker.
**'733t3d' — A reference to [[Wikipedia:Leetspeak|1337 speak]], or "Leetspeak," a language used on the Internet where letters are replaced by numbers or symbols. The translation would probably be "delete" or "Leet'd." For the record, the text actually says "Teeted," which goes to further demonstrate Homestar's general ineptitude.
**'Deltaco' — Is a mexican fast food chain.
**'dltd' — might be a reference to the spelling used on customized license plates.

==DVD Version==
*The "Comeback joke book" Easter egg is disabled

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail50.html|watch "50 emails"]]
*[[HR:sbemail50.swf|view the Flash file for "50 emails"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]]
[[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]]
[[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]]
[[Category:The Sneak Filmography]]
[[Category:The Strong Bad Filmography]]
[[Category:1936]]

Talk:couch patch

2005-04-22T20:31:04Z

GregHosting: Full Storyline

"Strongbad repeating hose me down seems to be a reference to skate videos."
What the heck does this mean?--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 09:12, 5 Nov 2004 (MST)

*I'm not sure, but I did edit it to make it a little more proper. Perhaps "skate videos" means videos like Tony Hawk's or something like that. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 22:06, 19 Nov 2004 (MST)

I thought it meant like when in skateboarding videos, after they show a trick, they'll flash the clip about twice more so you can see it again, just like they did it in this, but for no reason. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:22, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Stench of Biblical Proportions ==

There's a fun fact that says:

<pre>The fact that Strong Bad says "a stench of biblical proportions"
refers to the Bible and that there was always some kind of destuction
going on.</pre>

Is that fact even necessary? I'm torn between whether it's useful or not. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 22:27, 19 Nov 2004 (MST)

I would have deleted it in its original form since it's sort of offensive, but it's a little better now. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

The whole fun fact should be deleted all together, since "A *something* of biblical proportions" is a commonly used phrase to describe something enourmous, such as "a flood of biblical proportions"--[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 15:18, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Has Matt? ==

I doubt this is a reference to Matt Chapman. It's probably just a coincidence that they used the pun "Has Matt?" because it sounds like "Hazmat", since that is the word for who comes after a chemical spill. You might as well say if they use "Mike" instead of "Microphone", they're talking about [[Mike Chapman|Mike]]. And not all HSR fans know them by any other name than The Brothers Chaps, so they probably wouldn't mkae a joke that not all fans had a way of understanding.

:I think it's very possible to be referencing [[Matt Chapman]]. Just because some of the fans won't get a joke doesn't mean they aren't going to put it in there. That's one of the reasons that make Homestar Runner funny! →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

Well, I still think it's a coincidence. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:21, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Goofs Section ==

There needs to be a goofs section here, I noticed sevral.
4/17/05 -Guest

:Well, by all means go ahead and put one in. [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Be bold in updating pages|Be bold!]] — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:22, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Full Storyline ==

There's the possibilty that everyone is correct in their story. Observe:
# Strong Bad writes that he loves "Carla Lewis"
# Strong Bad realizes his embarassing mistake and tears up that part of the couch.
# Mysterious Figure (I have a sneaking suspicion that it's Bubs) eats chili and pukes in the tear. Sews it up before anyone notices
# Strong Bad cuts open the area that was sewn up. The puke has rotted over the months/years and the scent of it overwhelms him. A Haz-Matt? team is required to remove the stench of the mysterious figure's old puke
# The Haz-Matt? team patches up the couch
# Homestar throws Teddy Grahams at the cieling.

See? Kinda silly to put in the main article, but interesting nonetheless. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 20:31, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

TROGDOR!

2005-04-22T02:20:25Z

GregHosting: /* Real-World References */ Wikipedia links

[[Image:trogdorgame.png|thumb|Trogdor!]]

''"The beefy armed dragon has had it up to here with those pesky peasants. Achieve burnination and watch the countryside go up in flames."'' —[[Videlectrix]]

This game is based on the character of [[Trogdor]] from the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[dragon]]. You follow Trogdor, squishing peasants and burninating cottages, all while avoiding knights and archers.

'''Page Title:''' TROGDOR!!!

== Instructions ==
<pre>Use the arrow keys to control Trogdor.
Stomp 10 peasants to achieve burnination.
Burn all cottages to advance a level.
Avoid knights and archers!
Press SPACE to pause.
click anywhere to START
Programmed by Jonathan Howe
Designed by Mike and Matt</pre>

== Interludes ==
*There are a number of funny interludes after the following levels, similar to the ones between some levels of Ms. Pac Man and other games:
**Level 4 — "stompin' good"
::''{A lone peasant is on the left side of the screen. Trogdor approaches from the right with two knights in hot pursuit. Trogdor stomps the peasant and then turns to burninate the knights as they retreat.}''
:*Level 8 — "fry 'em up Dan"
::''{Trogdor is in the middle of the screen. Four peasants approach one by one from the left, are burninated and exit at the bottom of the screen.}''
:*Level 12 — "parade of trogdors"
::''{Nine Trogdors parade from right to left across the screen.}''
:*Level 16 — "dancin' time"
::''{Trogdor breaks it down surrounded by ten burninated peasants and two knights}''
:*Level 20 — "flex it, troggie"
::''{Trogdor flexes his beefy arm.}''
:*Level 24 — "peasant dominoes"
::''{Seven peasants are in a line. Trogdor burninates the peasant on the right. The peasant to the left of the burninated peasant catches fire as the first peasant falls over. This effect dominoes down the line of peasants until they all fall over. Trogdor hops up and down with glee.}''
:*Level 30 — "trogdor incognito"
::''{Two peasants approach each other from opposite sides of the screen and stop in the middle. The peasant on the left burninates the peasant on the right. The peasant on the right runs off. The peasant on the left hops up and down.}''
:*Level 34 — "go trogdor # 2!"
::''{Seven peasants are hopping up and down as two Trogdors race across the screen from left to right. Trogdor number two wins the race.}''
:*Level 38 — "forbidden peasant love"
::''{Two peasants enter the screen from the right with a heart between them. As they reach the middle of the screen, a blue knight runs on screen and takes the peasant on the left away. The heart disappears as the peasant that was on the right is left alone.}''
:*Level 42 — "2 cottages"
::''{Two cottages appear.}''
:*Level 46 — "a funny joke"
::''{A knight is minding his own business on the left side of the screen. Out of nowhere, an archer appears on the right side of the screen and begins to shoot five arrows off of the knight's helmet. The archer leaves and the knight turns to face the spot where he was to find no one is there.}''
:*Level 50 — "smote that kerrek!"
::''{Trogdor is on screen with The Kerrek. The Kerrek bounces up and down a few times before Trogdor burninates him.}''
::'''Strong Bad:''' Mmmm! Roast Kerrek!
:*Level 100 — ''{A tiny arcade game Strong Bad enters the screen from the right.}''
::'''STRONG BAD:''' What the? What am I doing in this game?

::''{Arcade Strong Bad moves his arms up and down as the text "congratulations. you got good score" appears}

::'''GAME:''' Congratulations. You got good score.

::'''STRONG BAD:''' It sounds so... realistic.

::''{roll credits}''

::'''cast:'''

::''{Trogdor appears}''

::'''trogdor'''

::''{A peasant appears}''

::'''perez'''

::''{A slightly different peasant appears}''

::'''hackworth'''

::''{An on-fire peasant appears}''

::''' 'the steve' '''

::''{A blue knight appears}''

::'''the blue knight'''

::''{A more different blue knight appears}''

::'''the red knight'''

::''{Two archers appear, joined at their torso}''

::'''the siamese archers'''

::''{The Kerrek appears, and is burninated. His ashes form a roast The Kerrek, complete with apple in mouth.}''

::'''and Wordly Wise as The Kerrek'''

::''{Trogdor and Arcade Strong Bad appear at an angle}''

::'''keep playing!'''

::''{The game advances to the high score screen}''

== Easter Eggs ==
[[Image:Togdor_secret.png|thumb|If you score more than 2,000 points and die, [[Jonathan Howe]]'s name is shown]]
*Click and hold the "G" in the TROGDOR title to see some game hints.
**Don't let the peasants return to their cottages.
**Once you're burninating, you're invincible.
**Burninated peasants set their cottages on fire.
**Get an extra man every 300 points.
**What's a treasure hut?!?!
**Secret Code?!?!
*On the hints screen, you can use the [[Wikipedia:Konami Code|Konami Code]] (up up down down left right left right B A, and then click the word "START"). This will start you off with 30 lives.
*During the game you can hit the "k" key to kick the game. This doesn't seem to give you any advantage, but it does cause the machine to repeat the word "TROGDOR!" (A reference to [[Arcade Game]].)
*Treasure Huts! You can enter certain huts and pick-up gold! To get to it you must burninate certain huts that block them, and then let the burnination shut off, otherwise you will burn the treasure hut as well. '''On level 7, it's the leftmost hut. Burninate the 4 huts in the way. On level 11, it's the lower right hut. Burninate the huts around it. On level 16, it's the upper left hut. Burninate the three huts in the way.''' It appears that you can only enter one hut per game.

== Tips ==
* If a peasant makes it back into their cottage, you lose a point on the meter of peasants you squished (unless the meter is already empty). This can be frustrating when some cottages are inaccessable. Make sure you don't miss opportunities to squish peasants on these levels.
* Knights move in a pattern consisting of two moves (repeated over and over), completely ignoring Trogdor and the peasants. Their pattern gets "mirrored" when they hit a wall. Learning their patterns is one of the keys to doing well in the game.
* When you burninate peasants, they will run back to their cottage, which will burninate the cottage without need for direct burnination.
* Peasants will still come out of Burninated cottages, though Trogdor can walk right through them. Knights and arrows can go through any cottage.
* Archers appear in much greater frequency when you progress, but knights tend to be the main obstacle. Be sure to pay attention to the edges of the screen for archers. Arrows go about the same speed as Trogdor.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*Using a [http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/flash.html seek bar] suggests that this game was originally intended to have a high-score board.

*Flex it Troggie, Forbidden Peasant Love, and Smote That Kerrek are the only three animations that use art that isn't used during gameplay.

===Goofs===
*Lev. 27 was well nigh impossible. The peasant-paths were only accessible for 2 of the 6 cottages, so for every peasant you squished there were 2 left to wander back into their cottages (diminishing your burninator meter). Meanwhile, the cottages themselves walled you in to a very small area, which made you a sitting duck for archers and knights. This level was "fixed" as of February 12, 2005, making it much simpler to beat. The change is documented in the [[FAQ]].

===Glitches===
*Pausing sometimes causes a purple ball to become visible on the screen.

*If you pause the game (using the space bar) when the archer is out pulling his bow, he will get stuck there until the end of the level, even if you die on that level.
**UPDATE: As of February 12, 2005, this glitch has been fixed, so archers will disappear after unpausing the game and reappear as normal.

*If you die as soon as you achieve burnination status, you will come back to life with burnination, assuming you have any mans left.

* When you pause the game while a cottage is burninating, it will continue to burninate until it is destroyed.

*Sometimes you will get "SWORDED" just because you are near the knight, not by necessarily making contact with him.

*In Peasant's Quest it says that Trogdor is Invincible, But he can die in this game.

===Inside References===
*"Oh, Trogdor! I pine for you." is a reference to [[trevor the vampire]].

*The Easter Egg by clicking the "G" in TROGDOR may be a reference to the Easter Egg by clicking the "R" Strong Mad made in [[dragon]].

*The death scene is most likely refering to [[Teen Girl Squad]]. (SWORD'D! ARROW'D! IT'S OVER!)

*"Mmmmm, roast Kerrek!" is refering to [[interview]]

===Real-World References===
*The "Arch-Deluxe" is a reference to an old McDonald's Burger called the [[Wikipedia:Arch Deluxe|Arch Deluxe]].

*Jonathan Howe's name being an easter egg is actually a reference to Adventure for the [[Wikipedia:Atari 2600|Atari 2600]]. When it was made Atari intentionally kept game designers from achieving celebrity status. In rebellion to this, Warren Robinett hid his name inside what is commonly regarded as the first easter egg. It was only accessible by picking up an invisible object, carrying it through a dragon infested maze, and touching it to a blank wall. Doing this revealed a room with Warren's name plastered all over in rainbow colors.

*[[Wikipedia:Wordly Wise|Wordly Wise]] is a series of textbooks designed to build student's vocabulary. What this has to do with the [[Kerrek]] is unknown.

*When you die the replay button says "Challenge again!". This is possibly refering to the ending of [[Wikipedia:Ghosts and Goblins|Ghosts and Goblins]] which says the same thing.

*The intermisions may be a refernce to [[wikipedia:Pac-Man|Pac-Man]].

===Fast Forward===
*[[Dan]], from the caption "Fry 'em up Dan", is later used in [[Peasant's Quest]], as well as [[Stinkoman 20X6]]. This seems to have become a running gag with all of the new games.

===Strong Bad Quotes===
*Strong Bad will say things while you play. Here's a list:

:'''Sworded:'''
:*"Aw, this is the worst game I've ever played!"
:*"Stupid, freakin' knights."

:'''Arrowed:'''
:* "Ugh, stupid arch-deluxe."
:*"Ugh, nothing more humiliating then getting killed by the archer...arch deluxe...show you next time!"

:'''Squish a Peasant:'''
:*"Squished you, peasanty."
:*"I squish you"
:*"A Squisha Squisha"

:'''Get Burninate Power:'''
:*"The tables have turned!"

:'''Burn a Cottage:'''
:*"Deuce!"

:'''Burn a Peasant:'''
:*''{laughing}'' "He's on fire! Look at 'em burning!"

:'''Beat a Level:'''
:*"Ohh.. this is the best game I've ever played."
:*"Oh, yes! And the Trogdor comes in the niiight!"

:'''Game Over (depending on your score):'''
:*"Oh, Trogdor! I pine for you."
::*'''"STRONG BAD:''' Beat that score, Strong Sad!"
::*'''''STRONG SAD:''' I don't even want to play this game."
:*"Wow! That's the best secret thing I ever found in a video game. It's like... some dude's name. Flashing and stuff. ''{Jonathan's name appears flashing}''

:'''Upon reaching certain animations:'''
:*"Mmmmm, roast Kerrek!"
:*"What the? What am I doing in this game?!"
:*"It sounds so... realistic."

== External Links ==
*Play the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/trogdor.html Game].
*Play the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/trogdor.swf Game (Flash file)].

[[Category:Videlectrix Games]]

TROGDOR!

2005-04-22T02:16:26Z

GregHosting: /* Goofs */

[[Image:trogdorgame.png|thumb|Trogdor!]]

''"The beefy armed dragon has had it up to here with those pesky peasants. Achieve burnination and watch the countryside go up in flames."'' —[[Videlectrix]]

This game is based on the character of [[Trogdor]] from the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[dragon]]. You follow Trogdor, squishing peasants and burninating cottages, all while avoiding knights and archers.

'''Page Title:''' TROGDOR!!!

== Instructions ==
<pre>Use the arrow keys to control Trogdor.
Stomp 10 peasants to achieve burnination.
Burn all cottages to advance a level.
Avoid knights and archers!
Press SPACE to pause.
click anywhere to START
Programmed by Jonathan Howe
Designed by Mike and Matt</pre>

== Interludes ==
*There are a number of funny interludes after the following levels, similar to the ones between some levels of Ms. Pac Man and other games:
**Level 4 — "stompin' good"
::''{A lone peasant is on the left side of the screen. Trogdor approaches from the right with two knights in hot pursuit. Trogdor stomps the peasant and then turns to burninate the knights as they retreat.}''
:*Level 8 — "fry 'em up Dan"
::''{Trogdor is in the middle of the screen. Four peasants approach one by one from the left, are burninated and exit at the bottom of the screen.}''
:*Level 12 — "parade of trogdors"
::''{Nine Trogdors parade from right to left across the screen.}''
:*Level 16 — "dancin' time"
::''{Trogdor breaks it down surrounded by ten burninated peasants and two knights}''
:*Level 20 — "flex it, troggie"
::''{Trogdor flexes his beefy arm.}''
:*Level 24 — "peasant dominoes"
::''{Seven peasants are in a line. Trogdor burninates the peasant on the right. The peasant to the left of the burninated peasant catches fire as the first peasant falls over. This effect dominoes down the line of peasants until they all fall over. Trogdor hops up and down with glee.}''
:*Level 30 — "trogdor incognito"
::''{Two peasants approach each other from opposite sides of the screen and stop in the middle. The peasant on the left burninates the peasant on the right. The peasant on the right runs off. The peasant on the left hops up and down.}''
:*Level 34 — "go trogdor # 2!"
::''{Seven peasants are hopping up and down as two Trogdors race across the screen from left to right. Trogdor number two wins the race.}''
:*Level 38 — "forbidden peasant love"
::''{Two peasants enter the screen from the right with a heart between them. As they reach the middle of the screen, a blue knight runs on screen and takes the peasant on the left away. The heart disappears as the peasant that was on the right is left alone.}''
:*Level 42 — "2 cottages"
::''{Two cottages appear.}''
:*Level 46 — "a funny joke"
::''{A knight is minding his own business on the left side of the screen. Out of nowhere, an archer appears on the right side of the screen and begins to shoot five arrows off of the knight's helmet. The archer leaves and the knight turns to face the spot where he was to find no one is there.}''
:*Level 50 — "smote that kerrek!"
::''{Trogdor is on screen with The Kerrek. The Kerrek bounces up and down a few times before Trogdor burninates him.}''
::'''Strong Bad:''' Mmmm! Roast Kerrek!
:*Level 100 — ''{A tiny arcade game Strong Bad enters the screen from the right.}''
::'''STRONG BAD:''' What the? What am I doing in this game?

::''{Arcade Strong Bad moves his arms up and down as the text "congratulations. you got good score" appears}

::'''GAME:''' Congratulations. You got good score.

::'''STRONG BAD:''' It sounds so... realistic.

::''{roll credits}''

::'''cast:'''

::''{Trogdor appears}''

::'''trogdor'''

::''{A peasant appears}''

::'''perez'''

::''{A slightly different peasant appears}''

::'''hackworth'''

::''{An on-fire peasant appears}''

::''' 'the steve' '''

::''{A blue knight appears}''

::'''the blue knight'''

::''{A more different blue knight appears}''

::'''the red knight'''

::''{Two archers appear, joined at their torso}''

::'''the siamese archers'''

::''{The Kerrek appears, and is burninated. His ashes form a roast The Kerrek, complete with apple in mouth.}''

::'''and Wordly Wise as The Kerrek'''

::''{Trogdor and Arcade Strong Bad appear at an angle}''

::'''keep playing!'''

::''{The game advances to the high score screen}''

== Easter Eggs ==
[[Image:Togdor_secret.png|thumb|If you score more than 2,000 points and die, [[Jonathan Howe]]'s name is shown]]
*Click and hold the "G" in the TROGDOR title to see some game hints.
**Don't let the peasants return to their cottages.
**Once you're burninating, you're invincible.
**Burninated peasants set their cottages on fire.
**Get an extra man every 300 points.
**What's a treasure hut?!?!
**Secret Code?!?!
*On the hints screen, you can use the [[Wikipedia:Konami Code|Konami Code]] (up up down down left right left right B A, and then click the word "START"). This will start you off with 30 lives.
*During the game you can hit the "k" key to kick the game. This doesn't seem to give you any advantage, but it does cause the machine to repeat the word "TROGDOR!" (A reference to [[Arcade Game]].)
*Treasure Huts! You can enter certain huts and pick-up gold! To get to it you must burninate certain huts that block them, and then let the burnination shut off, otherwise you will burn the treasure hut as well. '''On level 7, it's the leftmost hut. Burninate the 4 huts in the way. On level 11, it's the lower right hut. Burninate the huts around it. On level 16, it's the upper left hut. Burninate the three huts in the way.''' It appears that you can only enter one hut per game.

== Tips ==
* If a peasant makes it back into their cottage, you lose a point on the meter of peasants you squished (unless the meter is already empty). This can be frustrating when some cottages are inaccessable. Make sure you don't miss opportunities to squish peasants on these levels.
* Knights move in a pattern consisting of two moves (repeated over and over), completely ignoring Trogdor and the peasants. Their pattern gets "mirrored" when they hit a wall. Learning their patterns is one of the keys to doing well in the game.
* When you burninate peasants, they will run back to their cottage, which will burninate the cottage without need for direct burnination.
* Peasants will still come out of Burninated cottages, though Trogdor can walk right through them. Knights and arrows can go through any cottage.
* Archers appear in much greater frequency when you progress, but knights tend to be the main obstacle. Be sure to pay attention to the edges of the screen for archers. Arrows go about the same speed as Trogdor.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*Using a [http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/flash.html seek bar] suggests that this game was originally intended to have a high-score board.

*Flex it Troggie, Forbidden Peasant Love, and Smote That Kerrek are the only three animations that use art that isn't used during gameplay.

===Goofs===
*Lev. 27 was well nigh impossible. The peasant-paths were only accessible for 2 of the 6 cottages, so for every peasant you squished there were 2 left to wander back into their cottages (diminishing your burninator meter). Meanwhile, the cottages themselves walled you in to a very small area, which made you a sitting duck for archers and knights. This level was "fixed" as of February 12, 2005, making it much simpler to beat. The change is documented in the [[FAQ]].

===Glitches===
*Pausing sometimes causes a purple ball to become visible on the screen.

*If you pause the game (using the space bar) when the archer is out pulling his bow, he will get stuck there until the end of the level, even if you die on that level.
**UPDATE: As of February 12, 2005, this glitch has been fixed, so archers will disappear after unpausing the game and reappear as normal.

*If you die as soon as you achieve burnination status, you will come back to life with burnination, assuming you have any mans left.

* When you pause the game while a cottage is burninating, it will continue to burninate until it is destroyed.

*Sometimes you will get "SWORDED" just because you are near the knight, not by necessarily making contact with him.

*In Peasant's Quest it says that Trogdor is Invincible, But he can die in this game.

===Inside References===
*"Oh, Trogdor! I pine for you." is a reference to [[trevor the vampire]].

*The Easter Egg by clicking the "G" in TROGDOR may be a reference to the Easter Egg by clicking the "R" Strong Mad made in [[dragon]].

*The death scene is most likely refering to [[Teen Girl Squad]]. (SWORD'D! ARROW'D! IT'S OVER!)

*"Mmmmm, roast Kerrek!" is refering to [[interview]]

===Real-World References===
*The "Arch-Deluxe" is a reference to an old McDonald's Burger called the Arch Deluxe.

*Jonathan Howe's name being an easter egg is actually a reference to Adventure for the [[Wikipedia:Atari 2600|Atari 2600]]. When it was made Atari intentionally kept game designers from achieving celebrity status. In rebellion to this, Warren Robinett hid his name inside what is commonly regarded as the first easter egg. It was only accessible by picking up an invisible object, carrying it through a dragon infested maze, and touching it to a blank wall. Doing this revealed a room with Warren's name plastered all over in rainbow colors.

*[[Wikipedia:Wordly Wise|Wordly Wise]] is a series of textbooks designed to build student's vocabulary. What this has to do with the [[Kerrek]] is unknown.

*When you die the replay button says "Challenge again!". This is possibly refering to the ending of [[Wikipedia:Ghosts and Goblins|Ghosts and Goblins]] which says the same thing.

*The intermisions may be a refernce to pacman.

===Fast Forward===
*[[Dan]], from the caption "Fry 'em up Dan", is later used in [[Peasant's Quest]], as well as [[Stinkoman 20X6]]. This seems to have become a running gag with all of the new games.

===Strong Bad Quotes===
*Strong Bad will say things while you play. Here's a list:

:'''Sworded:'''
:*"Aw, this is the worst game I've ever played!"
:*"Stupid, freakin' knights."

:'''Arrowed:'''
:* "Ugh, stupid arch-deluxe."
:*"Ugh, nothing more humiliating then getting killed by the archer...arch deluxe...show you next time!"

:'''Squish a Peasant:'''
:*"Squished you, peasanty."
:*"I squish you"
:*"A Squisha Squisha"

:'''Get Burninate Power:'''
:*"The tables have turned!"

:'''Burn a Cottage:'''
:*"Deuce!"

:'''Burn a Peasant:'''
:*''{laughing}'' "He's on fire! Look at 'em burning!"

:'''Beat a Level:'''
:*"Ohh.. this is the best game I've ever played."
:*"Oh, yes! And the Trogdor comes in the niiight!"

:'''Game Over (depending on your score):'''
:*"Oh, Trogdor! I pine for you."
::*'''"STRONG BAD:''' Beat that score, Strong Sad!"
::*'''''STRONG SAD:''' I don't even want to play this game."
:*"Wow! That's the best secret thing I ever found in a video game. It's like... some dude's name. Flashing and stuff. ''{Jonathan's name appears flashing}''

:'''Upon reaching certain animations:'''
:*"Mmmmm, roast Kerrek!"
:*"What the? What am I doing in this game?!"
:*"It sounds so... realistic."

== External Links ==
*Play the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/trogdor.html Game].
*Play the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/trogdor.swf Game (Flash file)].

[[Category:Videlectrix Games]]

TROGDOR!

2005-04-22T02:15:38Z

GregHosting: /* Goofs */ Revised "Level 27"

[[Image:trogdorgame.png|thumb|Trogdor!]]

''"The beefy armed dragon has had it up to here with those pesky peasants. Achieve burnination and watch the countryside go up in flames."'' —[[Videlectrix]]

This game is based on the character of [[Trogdor]] from the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[dragon]]. You follow Trogdor, squishing peasants and burninating cottages, all while avoiding knights and archers.

'''Page Title:''' TROGDOR!!!

== Instructions ==
<pre>Use the arrow keys to control Trogdor.
Stomp 10 peasants to achieve burnination.
Burn all cottages to advance a level.
Avoid knights and archers!
Press SPACE to pause.
click anywhere to START
Programmed by Jonathan Howe
Designed by Mike and Matt</pre>

== Interludes ==
*There are a number of funny interludes after the following levels, similar to the ones between some levels of Ms. Pac Man and other games:
**Level 4 — "stompin' good"
::''{A lone peasant is on the left side of the screen. Trogdor approaches from the right with two knights in hot pursuit. Trogdor stomps the peasant and then turns to burninate the knights as they retreat.}''
:*Level 8 — "fry 'em up Dan"
::''{Trogdor is in the middle of the screen. Four peasants approach one by one from the left, are burninated and exit at the bottom of the screen.}''
:*Level 12 — "parade of trogdors"
::''{Nine Trogdors parade from right to left across the screen.}''
:*Level 16 — "dancin' time"
::''{Trogdor breaks it down surrounded by ten burninated peasants and two knights}''
:*Level 20 — "flex it, troggie"
::''{Trogdor flexes his beefy arm.}''
:*Level 24 — "peasant dominoes"
::''{Seven peasants are in a line. Trogdor burninates the peasant on the right. The peasant to the left of the burninated peasant catches fire as the first peasant falls over. This effect dominoes down the line of peasants until they all fall over. Trogdor hops up and down with glee.}''
:*Level 30 — "trogdor incognito"
::''{Two peasants approach each other from opposite sides of the screen and stop in the middle. The peasant on the left burninates the peasant on the right. The peasant on the right runs off. The peasant on the left hops up and down.}''
:*Level 34 — "go trogdor # 2!"
::''{Seven peasants are hopping up and down as two Trogdors race across the screen from left to right. Trogdor number two wins the race.}''
:*Level 38 — "forbidden peasant love"
::''{Two peasants enter the screen from the right with a heart between them. As they reach the middle of the screen, a blue knight runs on screen and takes the peasant on the left away. The heart disappears as the peasant that was on the right is left alone.}''
:*Level 42 — "2 cottages"
::''{Two cottages appear.}''
:*Level 46 — "a funny joke"
::''{A knight is minding his own business on the left side of the screen. Out of nowhere, an archer appears on the right side of the screen and begins to shoot five arrows off of the knight's helmet. The archer leaves and the knight turns to face the spot where he was to find no one is there.}''
:*Level 50 — "smote that kerrek!"
::''{Trogdor is on screen with The Kerrek. The Kerrek bounces up and down a few times before Trogdor burninates him.}''
::'''Strong Bad:''' Mmmm! Roast Kerrek!
:*Level 100 — ''{A tiny arcade game Strong Bad enters the screen from the right.}''
::'''STRONG BAD:''' What the? What am I doing in this game?

::''{Arcade Strong Bad moves his arms up and down as the text "congratulations. you got good score" appears}

::'''GAME:''' Congratulations. You got good score.

::'''STRONG BAD:''' It sounds so... realistic.

::''{roll credits}''

::'''cast:'''

::''{Trogdor appears}''

::'''trogdor'''

::''{A peasant appears}''

::'''perez'''

::''{A slightly different peasant appears}''

::'''hackworth'''

::''{An on-fire peasant appears}''

::''' 'the steve' '''

::''{A blue knight appears}''

::'''the blue knight'''

::''{A more different blue knight appears}''

::'''the red knight'''

::''{Two archers appear, joined at their torso}''

::'''the siamese archers'''

::''{The Kerrek appears, and is burninated. His ashes form a roast The Kerrek, complete with apple in mouth.}''

::'''and Wordly Wise as The Kerrek'''

::''{Trogdor and Arcade Strong Bad appear at an angle}''

::'''keep playing!'''

::''{The game advances to the high score screen}''

== Easter Eggs ==
[[Image:Togdor_secret.png|thumb|If you score more than 2,000 points and die, [[Jonathan Howe]]'s name is shown]]
*Click and hold the "G" in the TROGDOR title to see some game hints.
**Don't let the peasants return to their cottages.
**Once you're burninating, you're invincible.
**Burninated peasants set their cottages on fire.
**Get an extra man every 300 points.
**What's a treasure hut?!?!
**Secret Code?!?!
*On the hints screen, you can use the [[Wikipedia:Konami Code|Konami Code]] (up up down down left right left right B A, and then click the word "START"). This will start you off with 30 lives.
*During the game you can hit the "k" key to kick the game. This doesn't seem to give you any advantage, but it does cause the machine to repeat the word "TROGDOR!" (A reference to [[Arcade Game]].)
*Treasure Huts! You can enter certain huts and pick-up gold! To get to it you must burninate certain huts that block them, and then let the burnination shut off, otherwise you will burn the treasure hut as well. '''On level 7, it's the leftmost hut. Burninate the 4 huts in the way. On level 11, it's the lower right hut. Burninate the huts around it. On level 16, it's the upper left hut. Burninate the three huts in the way.''' It appears that you can only enter one hut per game.

== Tips ==
* If a peasant makes it back into their cottage, you lose a point on the meter of peasants you squished (unless the meter is already empty). This can be frustrating when some cottages are inaccessable. Make sure you don't miss opportunities to squish peasants on these levels.
* Knights move in a pattern consisting of two moves (repeated over and over), completely ignoring Trogdor and the peasants. Their pattern gets "mirrored" when they hit a wall. Learning their patterns is one of the keys to doing well in the game.
* When you burninate peasants, they will run back to their cottage, which will burninate the cottage without need for direct burnination.
* Peasants will still come out of Burninated cottages, though Trogdor can walk right through them. Knights and arrows can go through any cottage.
* Archers appear in much greater frequency when you progress, but knights tend to be the main obstacle. Be sure to pay attention to the edges of the screen for archers. Arrows go about the same speed as Trogdor.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*Using a [http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/flash.html seek bar] suggests that this game was originally intended to have a high-score board.

*Flex it Troggie, Forbidden Peasant Love, and Smote That Kerrek are the only three animations that use art that isn't used during gameplay.

===Goofs===
*Lev. 27 was well nigh impossible. The peasant-paths were only accessible for 2 of the 6 cottages, so for every peasant you squished there were 2 left to wander back into their cottages (diminishing your burninator meter). Meanwhile, the cottages themselves walled you in to a very small area, which made you a sitting duck for archers and knights. This level was changed as of February 12, 2005, making it much simpler to beat. The change is documented in the [[FAQ]]

===Glitches===
*Pausing sometimes causes a purple ball to become visible on the screen.

*If you pause the game (using the space bar) when the archer is out pulling his bow, he will get stuck there until the end of the level, even if you die on that level.
**UPDATE: As of February 12, 2005, this glitch has been fixed, so archers will disappear after unpausing the game and reappear as normal.

*If you die as soon as you achieve burnination status, you will come back to life with burnination, assuming you have any mans left.

* When you pause the game while a cottage is burninating, it will continue to burninate until it is destroyed.

*Sometimes you will get "SWORDED" just because you are near the knight, not by necessarily making contact with him.

*In Peasant's Quest it says that Trogdor is Invincible, But he can die in this game.

===Inside References===
*"Oh, Trogdor! I pine for you." is a reference to [[trevor the vampire]].

*The Easter Egg by clicking the "G" in TROGDOR may be a reference to the Easter Egg by clicking the "R" Strong Mad made in [[dragon]].

*The death scene is most likely refering to [[Teen Girl Squad]]. (SWORD'D! ARROW'D! IT'S OVER!)

*"Mmmmm, roast Kerrek!" is refering to [[interview]]

===Real-World References===
*The "Arch-Deluxe" is a reference to an old McDonald's Burger called the Arch Deluxe.

*Jonathan Howe's name being an easter egg is actually a reference to Adventure for the [[Wikipedia:Atari 2600|Atari 2600]]. When it was made Atari intentionally kept game designers from achieving celebrity status. In rebellion to this, Warren Robinett hid his name inside what is commonly regarded as the first easter egg. It was only accessible by picking up an invisible object, carrying it through a dragon infested maze, and touching it to a blank wall. Doing this revealed a room with Warren's name plastered all over in rainbow colors.

*[[Wikipedia:Wordly Wise|Wordly Wise]] is a series of textbooks designed to build student's vocabulary. What this has to do with the [[Kerrek]] is unknown.

*When you die the replay button says "Challenge again!". This is possibly refering to the ending of [[Wikipedia:Ghosts and Goblins|Ghosts and Goblins]] which says the same thing.

*The intermisions may be a refernce to pacman.

===Fast Forward===
*[[Dan]], from the caption "Fry 'em up Dan", is later used in [[Peasant's Quest]], as well as [[Stinkoman 20X6]]. This seems to have become a running gag with all of the new games.

===Strong Bad Quotes===
*Strong Bad will say things while you play. Here's a list:

:'''Sworded:'''
:*"Aw, this is the worst game I've ever played!"
:*"Stupid, freakin' knights."

:'''Arrowed:'''
:* "Ugh, stupid arch-deluxe."
:*"Ugh, nothing more humiliating then getting killed by the archer...arch deluxe...show you next time!"

:'''Squish a Peasant:'''
:*"Squished you, peasanty."
:*"I squish you"
:*"A Squisha Squisha"

:'''Get Burninate Power:'''
:*"The tables have turned!"

:'''Burn a Cottage:'''
:*"Deuce!"

:'''Burn a Peasant:'''
:*''{laughing}'' "He's on fire! Look at 'em burning!"

:'''Beat a Level:'''
:*"Ohh.. this is the best game I've ever played."
:*"Oh, yes! And the Trogdor comes in the niiight!"

:'''Game Over (depending on your score):'''
:*"Oh, Trogdor! I pine for you."
::*'''"STRONG BAD:''' Beat that score, Strong Sad!"
::*'''''STRONG SAD:''' I don't even want to play this game."
:*"Wow! That's the best secret thing I ever found in a video game. It's like... some dude's name. Flashing and stuff. ''{Jonathan's name appears flashing}''

:'''Upon reaching certain animations:'''
:*"Mmmmm, roast Kerrek!"
:*"What the? What am I doing in this game?!"
:*"It sounds so... realistic."

== External Links ==
*Play the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/trogdor.html Game].
*Play the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/trogdor.swf Game (Flash file)].

[[Category:Videlectrix Games]]

The S is for Sucks Dragon

2005-04-22T02:11:35Z

GregHosting: Linked dragon, referred to Trogdor

[[Image:sucks trogdor.png|thumb|right|220px|Two beefy arms, but still no go]]
'''The S is for Sucks''' is the first attempt at drawing a dragon [[Strong Bad]] made in the [[Strong Bad Email|email]] "[[dragon]]." Its arms and legs are styled after the [[action figure|action figures]] seen in the email of the same name. The more popular [[Trogdor]] retains one of the arms from The S is for Sucks.

===Complete Filmography===
*[[dragon]] (Debut)
*[[King Of Town Main Page]]

[[Category: Inside Jokes]]

Sensitive to Bees

2005-04-20T06:59:40Z

GregHosting: /* Fun Facts */ Strong bad wasn't the bee

== Detailed Information ==
'''Album''': [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]] 
'''Track''': 13 
'''Time''': 1 minute 54 seconds 
'''Artist''': Marzipan (feat. Strong Bad and Homestar Runner) 
'''Style''': Folk 

'''Origin''': Brand new song

== Lyrics ==
'''MARZIPAN:''' Strong Bad, do you want to hear my song? 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Hi! No! 
'''MARZIPAN:''' OK, here we go.

''{Marzipan starts playing Carol}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I thought I said no...Ooh, that sounds gorgeous.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' I'm very sensitive to birds 
'''STRONG BAD:''' What? 
'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' I'm very sensitive to trees 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Them falling on you? 
'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' I'm very sensitive to all these things 
But I'm especially sensitive to bees 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, I'M the bee!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' Yeah, I really really REALLY like bees 
'''STRONG BAD:''' I really really think you're making this up as you go

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' Have you ever walked outside? 
And noticed that they're really pretty cute? 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing simultaneously}'' And got run over by a big truck? 
'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' They like to fly around and eat your fruit 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, fruit and cute. Good rhyme! 
'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' But it's OK, 'cause they're cute 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, CUTE and cute. That's even more advanced 
'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' Yeah, it's OK, 'cause they're cute 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Cute, CUTE, and cute. You're the poet laureate of-

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' BUZZ! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, what? 
'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' OUCH! BUZZ! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' What are you doing? 
'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' OUCH! BUZZ BUZZ BUZZ OUCH! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Stop that!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' I've heard some people say 
'''STRONG BAD:''' You should really quit playing this song 
'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' That you can't count on a bee to pay 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh. Well I WILL agree with that one. Got a good point there. 
'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' And they won't look you in the eye 
And all they want to do is fly real high. 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing simultaneously, joining in}'' Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo really high 
'''HOMESTAR:''' Hey guys!

'''MARZIPAN & STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' But ya gotta love 'em anyway! 
'''HOMESTAR:''' What are you doing? Are you guys singing a song? 
'''MARZIPAN & STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I don't care what they say anymore! 
''{Homestar joins in}'' 
'''ALL:''' ''{singing}'' Cause I really really do love bees! ('''HOMESTAR:''' trees!) 
'''STRONG BAD:''' True 
'''MARZIPAN:''' All together now! 
'''HOMESTAR:''' OK! 
'''MARZIPAN & STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Yeah, I really really really like bees......ah. 
'''HOMESTAR:''' ''{singing simultaneously}'' Yeah, I really really like to play with trees! And ants!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Alright, don't tell anybody I sang along with you 
'''MARZIPAN:''' OK 
'''HOMESTAR:''' But you can tell them I did! 
'''MARZIPAN:''' No thanks!

== Fun Facts ==
* The Goblin dressed as Strong Bad was "The Bee" in the [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
* Strong Bad and Homestar are in stereo, so when Strong Bad talks, his voice comes out of the left speaker, and when Homestar talks, his voice comes out the right speaker.
{{Template:Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits}}
[[Category: Songs]]

Everybody to the Limit

2005-04-20T06:53:36Z

GregHosting: /* Remarks */

[[Image:everybody_to_the_limit.png|right|thumb|Everybody c'mon fhqwhgads!]]
== Summary ==
[[Strong Bad]]'s [[Powered By The Cheat]] music video for his song about [[Fhqwhgads]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Visor Robot]], [[Strong Bad]], [[Atari Dragon]], [[The Cheat]]

'''Places:''' [[The Cheat's Computer Room]]

'''Date:''' July 1, 2002

'''Running Time:''' 1:54

'''Page Title:''' Everybody to the Limit

== Lyrics ==
'''VISOR ROBOT:''' Come on, Fhqwhgads.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I said come on Fhqwhgads 
I said come on Fhqwhgads 
Everybody to the limit 
Everybody to the limit 
Everybody come on Fhqwhgads

I said come on Fhqwhgads 
I said come on Fhqwhgads 
Everybody to the limit 
Who's that? It's to the limit 
Everybody come on Fhqwhgads

Come on Fhqwhgads 
I see you jockin' me 
Tryin' to play like 
You know me

I'm like come on Fhqwhgads 
I said come on Fhqwhgads 
Everybody to the limit 
The Cheat is to the limit 
Everybody come on Fhqwhgads

I said ooh ah Fhqwhgads 
I said ooh ah Fhqwhgads 
Who's that fh-huh-hoo-huga-wha 
I said who is that Fhqwhgads

I don't know who it is 
But it probably is Fhqwhgads 
I asked my friend Joe 
I asked my friend Jake 
They said it was Fhqwhgads

I said come on Fhqwhgads 
I said come on Fhqwhgads 
Who's-a to the limit? 
''C'est'' me! I'm to the limit 
Everybody come on Fhqwhgads

Man, Fhqwhgads 
You're just making yourself look worse, y'know 
I mean, everybody's just gonna feel sorry for ya 
I mean, I do.

''{Zooms out to reveal Strong Bad and The Cheat watching the video on Tangerine Dreams.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{talking to The Cheat}'' Now that's what I'm talkin' about! That was amazing! I mean you—... I—... I can't b—... Chi-g-d-b ... He—g ... I'm buyin' you a pizza!

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*Fhqwhgads originated in the Strong Bad Email [[i love you]].

===Trivia===
*A "[[Everybody to the Limit (Live)|Live from West Reykjavik]]" version of this song can be found on [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]].
*Clicking the Back button at the end of the video will always take you to [[Main Page 15]], The Cheat's main page.
*The Visor Robot's voice is [[Wikipedia:Apple Macintosh|Macintosh's]] Zarvox.
*The beat The Cheat uses (minus the handclap) is a sample from James Brown's "Funky Drummer", the basis for countless rap songs. The "Woo!" sample is mostly likely a reference to Rob Base's hit "It Takes Two", which used the same sound effect on the same beat.

===Remarks===
*During the video, Strong Bad provides the voice for his own character. Normally, The Cheat provides the voices for all characters in cartoons that he creates.
*Even after the Visor Robot's lasers stop, the laser sound is still made.
*This is the only time so far that Strong Bad has left outright positive feedback for a Powered by the Cheat cartoon.

===Inside References===
*For a split second, as the Robot's head opens to reveal Strong Bad, the words "come on" are replaced on screen by the word "[[LEMKE|lemke]]."
*When Strong Bad comes out of the robot he is unmistakably holding the [[Big Knife]].

===Real-World References===
*The lyric "I asked my friend Joe, I asked my friend Jake" is accompanied by portraits of brothers [[Wikipedia:John F. Kennedy|John F. Kennedy]] and [[Wikipedia:Robert F. Kennedy|Robert F. Kennedy]].
*The yellow and white, [[Ducks|duck]]-looking things are taken from the old [[Wikipedia:Atari 2600|Atari 2600]] game [[Wikipedia:Adventure (game)|Adventure]].
*During one of the times the screen is flashing, a profile view of a head can be easily noticed. The head is that of Abraham Lincoln.

===Fast Forward===
*In the Strong Bad Email [[your friends]], [[Strong Bad]] hits [[Bubs]] over the head with a [[Wikipedia:Gold album|Gold Record]] (such as are awarded when an album or single sells a certain number of copies) titled "Everybody To The Limit".

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/fhqwhgads.html watch "Everybody to the Limit"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/fhqwhgads.swf view the Flash file for "Everybody to the Limit"]
* download the song "Everybody to the Limit" [http://www.homestarrunner.com/fhqwhgads.zip PC] / [http://www.homestarrunner.com/fhqwhgads.sit Mac]
[[Category:Toons]][[Category:Powered by The Cheat]][[Category:Songs]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:The Cheat Filmography]]

interview

2005-04-17T04:18:02Z

GregHosting: /* Inside References */

[[Image:sbemail62.PNG|thumb|"I was raised by a cup of coffee!"]]

:''This article is about the [[Strong Bad Email]]. For the short, see [[The Interview]].''

'''Strong Bad Email #62'''

Kerrek asks Strong Bad about Homsar.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Homsar]], [[The Cheat]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]]

'''Date:''' February 10, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 2:10

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' Ahh...so many emails, so little good emails.

''{reading}''

<pre>What's up with Homsar? I know he's
weird and all, but don't you think we
deserve to know a bit more about him?
I think you should do an interview so
we can finally find out what his
deal is.

Kerrek
PA</pre>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, that's a pretty cool name! ''{typing in a Gothic blackletter font}'' And then Trogdor smote the Kerrek, and all was laid to burnination. ''{Clears the screen, starts typing normally}'' My good Kerrek, you might enjoy such an encounter, but I know I can't talk to that guy for more than about 3 seconds before I start thinking that gnawing my own leg off might be a more better way to spend my time...more..more better. ''{clears screen, continues typing}'' Let me show you how it would go down with post-its attached to the top of pens.

''{Strong Bad ducks his head and brings up two pens with Post-It notes attached to them, one with a crude drawing of Strong Bad, the other of Homsar}''

'''STRONG BAD FIGURE:''' All right, then. For the record, please. Tell us who you are.

'''HOMSAR FIGURE:''' DaAaAaA! I'm a song from the sixties!

'''STRONG BAD FIGURE:''' That's just nonsense. Are you trying to make some sense?

'''HOMSAR FIGURE:''' AaAaA! Rightio! I think I can twice!

'''STRONG BAD FIGURE:''' Homsar, tell us about your childhood.

'''HOMSAR FIGURE:''' DaAa! I was raised by a cup of coffee.

'''STRONG BAD FIGURE:''' Interesting. So! How did you end up here?

'''HOMSAR FIGURE:''' 'Twas the pride of the peaches.

'''STRONG BAD FIGURE:''' 'Twas the pride of the peaches, huh? You got any last remarks?

'''HOMSAR FIGURE:''' DaAaA! Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk!

'''STRONG BAD FIGURE:''' Okay, interview over. Commence beating!

''{Strong Bad has the Strong Bad Post-It beat the Homsar Post-It. The doorbell rings.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa! That'll be the Cheat with my Thai iced tea! Come on in!

''{Cut to the entryway. It is not the Cheat, but Homsar himself.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hey Reggie! Is that rhinoceros around?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Um... I can only assume you're talking to me and asking about Strong Sad. He's in the basement.

'''HOMSAR:''' I'm a song from the sixties.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{salting his own leg}'' If you don't get down there quick, things could get real ugly around here.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down. The Cheat shows up with Strong Bad's Thai iced tea but he doesn't take it. The Cheat walks away again.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Once Strong Bad starts typing and the name Kerrek comes up you can click on it and bring up a Strong Sad drawing of Trogdor smiting [[Kerrek]].

*Click on Strong Bad's pen-postit puppets to see a few different versions—you can do this for the remainder of this one, when you see them.
*Once you see Homsar, you can click on the light switches for some cool light effects, like in [[techno]].

*After The Cheat goes away (or even before he shows up) you can click on the Homsar pen puppet to bring up a funny [[Homsar Main Page]], which is also accessible by clicking the "5" in "2005" on any main page except the [[Luau Main Page]].
**The original version of the Homsar main page had only the Toons and Games buttons. After it was added as an Easter egg on the main pages, it was normalized to fit in (more or less) with the rest of the menus.

== Fun Facts ==
===Inside References===
*One of Strong Bad's Post-it alter egos is his action figure from the email [[action figure]].
*Homsar's short, squat, post-it character (click through it a few times) looks exactly like Homestar in one scene of [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. Strong Bad even makes fun of the crude early version in the commentary!
*Strong Bad referring to salting and eating his own foot is very similar to [[island]], where he says, while pondering what life on a deserted island with Homestar would be like, "And at some point my foot would look like a sandwich, and I would put salt on it and try to eat it, and it'd be like, 'Ahh, it's my foot!'"
*The second Strong Bad Post-It drawing (the one showing him running) is similar to the caricature of him seen in a [[vacation]] Easter egg.
*Homsar being "raised by a cup of coffee" might explain why he wrote "Taster's Choice" in the easter egg in the email [[dragon]].

===Goofs===
*The lighting effects controlled by the two light switches disappear when the scene cuts to Strong Bad, and are always off at first when Homsar says "I'm a song from the '60s", even if they're on when it first cuts back to Strong Bad.
*If you use a seek bar to view the menu page before you view the email, then watch the email afterward, all of the features from external Flash files normally used on the main pages (i.e. the homepage list, the "What's New" button) appear during the rest of the email.

===Real-World References===
*The phrase "Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk" was said by Shaquille O'Neal in his first Reebok commercial [http://www.sportscenteraltar.com/phrases/usage.asp?ID=125].
*The flying skull-like Strong Bad head is a reference to the Bubble, an enemy from the Legend of Zelda series.

===Fast Forward===
*The Kerrek appears later in [[Peasant's Quest]].

== DVD Version ==
*To view the Easter eggs, use the angle button on your DVD remote. (Except for The Cheat giving Strong Bad his Thai iced tea, which comes up automatically, and the Homsar link, which has been removed.)

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail62.html|watch "interview"]]
*[[HR:sbemail62.swf|view the Flash file for "interview"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]]
[[Category:Homsar Filmography]]
[[Category:The Cheat Filmography]]
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]]
[[Category:Trogdor Filmography]]
[[Category:Kerrek Filmography]]

Teen Girl Squad

2005-04-17T04:04:51Z

GregHosting: /* Fun Facts */

[[Image:tgsmenu.png|thumb|Teen Girl Squad menu]]
[[Image:teengirlsquad.png|thumb|The girls are looking SO GOOD!]]

In the [[Strong Bad Email]] "[[comic]]," a girl named Brittany asked if [[Strong Bad]] could make a comic strip about her four friends Virginia, Joy, Kristin, and Jennifer. Strong Bad's spur of the moment comic strip soon became a series. Teen Girl Squad centers on four high school teenage girls—[[Cheerleader]], [[So and So]], [[What's Her Face]], and [[The Ugly One]]—who like to buy clothes and attract cute boys and look SO GOOD! Unfortunately, they are all-too-often subjected to the random dangers of Strong Bad's overactive imagination. But being killed doesn't seem to be a problem for the girls, for they are always back for the next episode.

== Issues ==
:[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1|Issue 1]] (from [[comic]])
:[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 2|Issue 2]]
:[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3|Issue 3]]
:[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4|Issue 4]]
:[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5|Issue 5]]
:[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad|Issue 6]] ([[Decemberween]] Special)
:[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|Issue 7]]
:[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8|Issue 8]]
:[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!#Teen Girl Squad Sample|Issue 8½]] (from [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]])

== Fun Facts ==
*If you hold your cursor over the Teen Girl Squad button on the [[Toons Menu]], you get a different description of each girl:
**Cheerleader: Hair products!
**So and So: Plaid skirt!
**What's Her Face: Baggy clothes!
**The Ugly One: Drill team!

*Each time you load the Teen Girl Squad menu page you get a different quote from a different girl. They are:
**The Ugly One: "teacher just called me 'young man'"
**The Ugly One: "i'm in love with liquid paper."
**What's Her Face: "nothing is cool."
**So and So: "on a roll with Honor Roll"
**Cheerleader: "you can't be popular AND smart"
**Cheerleader: "lets have a boy/girl party!"
**All except Cheerleader: "SO GOOD!"

*In addition to the different quotes, Cheerleader wears a different shirt each time you load the menu page. They are:
**"solid gold"
**"party thyme"
**"hott type"
**"rich grrl"
**"2 cool 4 u"
**"boy monger" (with :P face)
**"2 cute"

*The title of the Teen Girl Squad menu page reads: "T33n G1rl Squ4dx0rx!!", a reference to [[Wikipedia:leet|leet]]
*The seven in the main menu is a European seven.
** This is because AhnbergHand, the font used for Strong Bad's handwriting, contains a few european-style slashes, including lowercase 'q' which TBC have been known to "americanize".
*The [[Homestar Runner (flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]] [[404'd|404]] page is styled after Teen Girl Squad.
* The [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]] includes a short reference to Teen Girl Squad.

==External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/tgsmenu.html Teen Girl Squad Menu]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/tgsmenu.swf View the flash file for the Teen Girl Squad Menu]
[[Category: Teen Girl Squad]][[Category: Lists]]

Teen Girl Squad

2005-04-17T04:04:13Z

GregHosting: /* Fun Facts */ 1337

[[Image:tgsmenu.png|thumb|Teen Girl Squad menu]]
[[Image:teengirlsquad.png|thumb|The girls are looking SO GOOD!]]

In the [[Strong Bad Email]] "[[comic]]," a girl named Brittany asked if [[Strong Bad]] could make a comic strip about her four friends Virginia, Joy, Kristin, and Jennifer. Strong Bad's spur of the moment comic strip soon became a series. Teen Girl Squad centers on four high school teenage girls—[[Cheerleader]], [[So and So]], [[What's Her Face]], and [[The Ugly One]]—who like to buy clothes and attract cute boys and look SO GOOD! Unfortunately, they are all-too-often subjected to the random dangers of Strong Bad's overactive imagination. But being killed doesn't seem to be a problem for the girls, for they are always back for the next episode.

== Issues ==
:[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1|Issue 1]] (from [[comic]])
:[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 2|Issue 2]]
:[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3|Issue 3]]
:[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4|Issue 4]]
:[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5|Issue 5]]
:[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad|Issue 6]] ([[Decemberween]] Special)
:[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|Issue 7]]
:[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8|Issue 8]]
:[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!#Teen Girl Squad Sample|Issue 8½]] (from [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]])

== Fun Facts ==
*If you hold your cursor over the Teen Girl Squad button on the [[Toons Menu]], you get a different description of each girl:
**Cheerleader: Hair products!
**So and So: Plaid skirt!
**What's Her Face: Baggy clothes!
**The Ugly One: Drill team!

*Each time you load the Teen Girl Squad menu page you get a different quote from a different girl. They are:
**The Ugly One: "teacher just called me 'young man'"
**The Ugly One: "i'm in love with liquid paper."
**What's Her Face: "nothing is cool."
**So and So: "on a roll with Honor Roll"
**Cheerleader: "you can't be popular AND smart"
**Cheerleader: "lets have a boy/girl party!"
**All except Cheerleader: "SO GOOD!"

*In addition to the different quotes, Cheerleader wears a different shirt each time you load the menu page. They are:
**"solid gold"
**"party thyme"
**"hott type"
**"rich grrl"
**"2 cool 4 u"
**"boy monger" (with :P face)
**"2 cute"

*The title of the Teen Girl Squad menu page reads: "T33n G1rl Squ4dx0rx!!", a reference to [[Wikipedia:1337|1337]]
*The seven in the main menu is a European seven.
** This is because AhnbergHand, the font used for Strong Bad's handwriting, contains a few european-style slashes, including lowercase 'q' which TBC have been known to "americanize".
*The [[Homestar Runner (flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]] [[404'd|404]] page is styled after Teen Girl Squad.
* The [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]] includes a short reference to Teen Girl Squad.

==External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/tgsmenu.html Teen Girl Squad Menu]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/tgsmenu.swf View the flash file for the Teen Girl Squad Menu]
[[Category: Teen Girl Squad]][[Category: Lists]]

Rock Opera Context

2005-04-17T03:58:25Z

GregHosting: /* Words from their context in the 125 E-mails */

Below is the context of each of the words of [[Strong Bad]]'s [[rock opera]]. Each word is spoken by Strong Bad unless indicated otherwise.

__TOC__

==Words from their context in the 125 E-mails==
# [[some kinda robot]]: Do you use them for good, or for awesome? Would you like to '''join''' forces?
# [[homsar]]: Okay, so until next time, keep sending '''me''' your questions, and I will keep making fun of your punctuation and spelling.
# [[butt IQ]]: Okay, so until next time, '''on''' a scale from one to awesome, I'm super great.
# [[homestar hair]]: I mean, how come you people never play '''my''' game, man?
# [[making out]]: And then put on my hit '''single''' "You're Really Ugly (But There's Nobody Cute Around)."
# [[depressio]]: '''STRONG SAD:''' Oh yeah. I was just making him this card and gonna send him a '''hundred''' dollars...
# [[halloweener]]: You dress up like me this year and the ladies will flock to you like the Poopsmith to an overflowing '''toilet.'''
# [[brianrietta]]: Sorry to crush your hopes and '''dreams''', - Strong Bad.
# [[i love you]]: Like paint a '''picture'''... of a guy... with a big knife.
# [[trevor the vampire]]: Hi, '''everybody'''. In memoriam of poor Trevor, let's go back and revisit a few of my favorite Trevor memories.
# [[i rule]]: What, you '''wanna''' get banished?
# [[credit card]]: John, and some other people who aren't '''scam''' artists
# [[i she be]]: A guy's gotta have '''some''' standards right?
# [[duck pond]]: But I do have a pretty '''sweet''' duck pond simulator for my computer.
# [[the basics]]: You know, you bet somebody a hundred "'''bucks'''", and if they win, you give them like a hundred kicks in the butt and you call that a buck.
# [[band names]]: You know like... "LAZOR", '''or''' "BIGG NIFE", or something like "TARANCHULA" or maybe like "LIMOZEEN".
# [[studying]]: I mean, you've got the '''potential''' to get 1st, 2nd, and quite possibly even 3rd base.
# [[stand-up]]: '''LITTLE STRONG BAD:''' Is it cardboard or is it '''pizza'''?
# [[tape-leg]]: Oh wait a minute, what's that on- '''OH''', there's a little piece of tape on my shoe!
# [[spring cleaning]]: '''Oh''', I'll totally answer this one because apparently the only thing I'm concerned with is the word crap-DELETED!!
# [[cartoon]]: '''Umm...''' so this is another part where it's just me.
# [[sb_email 22]]: Whatever happened to "Cheers" or "Cheerio" or "'''Nevermind''' the Bullocks"?
# [[little animal]]: '''Um''', I don't really know. Let's find out. Oh, The Cheat! Come here for a moment!
# [[the bird]]: Psssshhh! The '''Double''' Deuce!
# [[super powers]]: '''COACH Z:''' Once again, I point the blame squarely at tight '''pants'''.
# [[CGNU]]: Do you want to be more '''awesome'''?
# [[3 Wishes]]: Look at how great I would look man. So majestic, yet so wicked '''awesome'''.
# [[1 step ahead]]: Oh, Strong Sad. '''Fancy''' seeing you here!
# [[superhero name]]: STINY! GET ME A '''DANISH'''!!
# [[12:00]]: I had the same problem, Dewey-Smith. So I called in a '''professional''' to get the job done.
# [[sugarbob]]: So sorry sweetie, tootsie-pie, sugarbob, '''funky''' bunch.
# [[flag day]]: I bet you have a '''totally''' awesome flag for Strong Badia.
# [[gimmicks]]: Supergreat, supergreat... check your email! '''Diggity''' Dear Strong Bad...
# [[weird dream]]: The United States in tight, white-brand '''underdrawers.'''
# [[sisters]]: '''Ohh''', there's two of them!
# [[guitar]]: Oh, tap your toes and check your email, oh a-tap your toes '''tonight'''...
# [[dullard]]: '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, cool, I guess you're going to go watch it now...oh, all right, man...later... '''Cool'''...
# [[helium]]: '''MARZIPAN:''' I don't know if that's entirely '''healthy.'''
# [[property of ones]]: I call it "The Property of '''Ones'''." It goes like this: The ONEitude is directly proportional to the Colditude of the ONE.
# [[vacation]]: Oh, vacation, '''eh'''?
# [[invisibility]]: I don't really think being visible prevents me from doing '''whatever''' I want to do.
# [[action figure]]: Oh man, Kyle. My '''action''' figure would have it all.
# [[little questions]]: Every age I have seen out as a '''baby'''.
# [[lures & jigs]]: '''Actually''', David, it may surprise you to hear this but, uh... I don't know anything about fishing, man.
# [[techno]]: Well, its not really my style, but I heard a techno song one time that '''went''' like...
# [[your friends]]: I was thinking about giving him a bath or something but, just the thought of that gave me the jibblies. Here they come again. The '''jibblie''' jibbles....
# [[new hands]]: '''Ooh!''' Ooh! I got it!
# [[ghosts]]: '''Oh!''' Uh...my old computer!
# [[theme party]]: Look fratty, I'm not comin' to your '''party'''.
# [[50 emails]]: More '''like''', you write a book about come-back jokes, NERD!
# [[website]]: I can safely say, that whatever idea you have is '''completely''' unimportant as long as you adhere to these fundamentals:
# [[island]]: Miami Dolphins vs. San Fransisco 49ers... '''great'''.
# [[comic]]: That turned out pretty '''good'''!
# [[morning routine]]: Yes, it's very fragile. Put it '''down.'''
# [[cheat talk]]: Some '''town''' here can't understand you. Say something normal, like-er-um-uhhh... Douglas.
# [[current status]]: Strong Bad with the '''ladies''' - Current Status: They all still want me.
# [[japanese cartoon]]: '''Get''' rid of my thumbs, make me all shiny... my boots would be a whole lot cooler.
# [[dragon]]: Close it up real good at the top for his head, and then, using '''consummate''' V's, give him teeth, spinities, and angry eyebrows.
# [[marzipan]]: '''MARZIPAN:''' Oh '''yeah''', oh yeah, and I really don't like him at all. ''{could be either "yeah"}''
# [[huttah!]]: That coulda been... '''awkward'''.
# [[monster truck]]: Aww...that's very '''sweet'''.
# [[interview]]: 'Twas the pride of the '''peaches''', huh?
# [[fingers]]: Yo Strong Bad. What's '''crackin'''?
# [[english paper]]: We just need to apply a little double-space '''action'''...
# [[unused emails]]: '''Wha-ho'''ah, Dan. You mean what do I do with the thousands and THOUSANDS of near unreadable emails I get every day?
# [[the show]]: Oh. '''Problematic.''' You know it's been awhile since I've kicked The Cheat, but I guarantee it'd be comedic gold compared to that mish-mash.
# [[autobiography]]: I wanna make fun of you but, uh, you've put together a '''solid''' email!
# [[caper]]: No, man, just the jumbles, the '''jumble'''s!
# [[personal favorites]]: '''GRAPE NUTS ROBOT:''' Things were just about to start getting '''crazy'''-go-nuts.
# [[big white face]]: I put some '''beans''' on it. You know. In case maybe you wanted beans on it.
# [[2 emails]]: Then we could have '''double''' the Strong Bad, and double the fun. ''{could be either "double"}''
# [[crazy cartoon]]: Sweet Cuppin' Cakes! '''The''' main character would look like a mix between a cow and a helicopter.
# [[mascot]]: And they won the game. So I'm getting them '''real''' fruit smoothies.
# [[privileges]]: You only need one more point to become a Medallion '''Gold''' Plus Club member!
# [[funny]]: Aunt Ruthie! Aunt Ruthie! There's ketchup on the '''computer!''' Halzee-WHOOP!
# [[sibbie]]: '''STRONG SAD:''' I dunno, some song I just downloaded off the '''Internet'''.
# [[suntan]]: They're already '''bulging''' all over the place as it is, but I guess a little more definition wouldn't kill me.
# [[anything]]: '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Have you ever made anything '''out''' of anything? Bye, Dan from FL. FL?
# [[the process]]: '''Yeah''', that's never happened either.
# [[stunt double]]: '''Oh''', I took the email to the market, and I bought it some kind of fish sauce.
# [[date]]: '''Dynomite!''' Boston, th-the state Boston's in.
# [[impression]]: But I should get going if I'm still going to be fashionably late to the '''afterparty'''.
# [[labor day]]: Wow. All of the sudden it's '''like''' the world is my place where I don't have to answer an email.
# [[kids' book]]: Some people are being '''fangoriously''' devoured by a gelatinous monster. Hillary's legs are being digested.
# [[2 years]]: And we will also have developed a '''world-class''' hole.
# [[no loafing]]: '''And''' as a result, productivity was down something-eight percent.
# [[mile]]: '''POWERED-BY-THE-CHEAT STRONG BAD:''' He can be the '''Grand''' Marshall.
# [[couch patch]]: '''Ooh''', my pal! Well Palbert, it's a good story.
# [[local news]]: '''Oh''', if you want it to be possessive, it's just "ITS." But, if it's supposed to be a contraction then it's "I-T-apostrophe-S," scalawag.
# [[colonization]]: '''STRONG SAD:''' '''Ewwww!''' Ketchup on eggs?!?
# [[caffeine]]: '''Oh-ho-ho-ho!''' (Devilish laugh.) Dear Justin, In addition to the cut of your jib, I likes the sound of your town. Murfreesboro.
# [[kind of cool]]: Anyways Jor-dan, creepy comb-over story Strong Bad is '''definitely''' a cool, cool guy.
# [[army]]: This '''definitely''' merits some further reconnaissance.
# [[video games]]: '''VECTOR STRONG BAD:''' BACK OFF '''BABY!'''
# [[the bet]]: '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' '''Yep''', I'm cool.
# [[lackey]]: Most of the emails '''I''' get are ADs.
# [[monument]]: That '''totally''' looks like my right foot.
# [[stupid stuff]]: '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No I'm '''always''' doing that.
# [[different town]]: And Pom Pom wouldn't change at all 'cept he'd '''look''' like an ABA basketball...
# [[flashback]]: '''STORYBOOK STRONG BAD:''' '''Awesome!''' My very own a The Cheat!
# [[car]]: Now you're '''singing''' the theme from "Night Court"?
# [[lunch special]]: Bubs has to give you a free lunch special if you can get him to say his name '''backwards''' - minus the first b.
# [[haircut]]: Experience the lightning brows of "Jagged '''Metal'''".
# [[theme park]]: Please keep your arms legs and valuables inside the vehicle at all times and get ready to '''experience''' the fury of The Strong Badian Riverboat Superfun... ride.
# [[replacement]]: I suppose I should cut to the chase and haul out the big guns...'''DANCE''' CONTEST!
# [[dangeresque 3]]: Today is all right for '''tonight'''... Riding in a Corvette, feeling all right.
# [[cheatday]]: Now, get upstairs - '''unh!''' And fix me some breakfast.
# [[pom pom]]: Let's see, how can we raise the stakes a little bit? '''Ooh!''' I'll be blindfolded!
# [[crying]]: '''STRONG BAD AS LI'L BRUDDER:''' '''I'm''' gonna be all right, Homestar. I can make it on my own!
# [[for kids]]: So, you can see how that might be less than '''pleasant'''.
# [[other days]]: You gots to look inside yourself! '''Positate''' the negative.
# [[old comics]]: And coming in this week at #4, it's those androgynous boys from Hertfordshire, West Is Lip, with their hit single "She Partied '''Without''' Dancing."
# [[pizzaz]]: So, Strong Bad, the peoples want to know... what's the secret to your '''pizzaz'''?
# [[the facts]]: Y'see? Misguided direction, no comedic timing, '''and''' the script is riddled with gaping plot holes.
# [[time capsule]]: '''STINKOMAN:''' It tastes like a #1 '''jam!'''
# [[extra plug]]: '''Whoa!''' Check out those lights! They're flashing!
# [[montage]]: '''Tonight''' on Strong Bad Email: Comedian Coach Z, actress Marzipan, and some guy from a zoo.
# [[virus]]: Computer over? Virus '''equals''' very yes?
# [[animal]]: 'Cept I'd also have an awesome back deck on me for dinner and '''dancing'''!
# [[radio]]: '''MORNING-SHOW STRONG BAD:''' Rise and shine, people. The fish was delish... '''CANNED AUDIENCE:''' Right! Ha ha! '''Yeah!''' '''MORNING-SHOW STRONG BAD:''' Wait for it — wait for it... and it made quite a dish.
# [[part-time job]]: I'm gonna be big one day. I'm gonna be a '''famous''' email checker.
# [[dreamail]]: '''FEMALE LAPPY:''' Well played, Strong Bad. Those '''ladies''' are sure to be all up ons.
# [[origins]]: Ugh! Why do you Van Peebles '''always''' wanna know the origins and histories of every freakin' little thing?
# [[secret recipes]]: being from Africa I'm sure you guys are used to eating, '''like,''' exotic fruits and nectars and, um, lions...
# [[rock opera]]: Famous '''FEMALE LAPPY:''' Ladies '''STRONG BAD:''' always like '''ALL:''' '''SBEMAIL!!'''

== Complete Lyrics ==
Here are the full lyrics without any annotation:

<pre>Join me on my single hundred toilet dreams picture.
Everybody wanna scam some sweet bucks or potential pizza.
Oh! Oh! Ummm. Nevermind.
Ummm... Double pants.
Awesome, awesome fancy danish.
Professional funky totally diggity-underdrawers.
Oh tonight, cool, healthy ones, eh?
Whatever action baby actually went jibblie.
Ooooh! Oh. Party like completely great, good.
Down town ladies get consummate, yeah.
Awkward sweet peaches crackin' action!
Wha-ho! Problematic.
Solid jumble!
Crazy beans double the real gold!
Computer internet bulging out. Yeah, oh!
Dynomite afterparty!
Like, fangoriously world-class and grand.
Ooooh! Oh! Ewww! Oh-ho-ho-ho! Definitely, definitely baby.
Yup, I totally always look awesome singing backwards metal.
Experience dance tonight! Unh!
Oooh! I'm pleasant.
Positate without pizzaz and jam!! Whoa!
Tonight equals dancing, yeah!
Famous ladies always like SBEMAIL!!!!!
</pre>

[[Category: Strong Bad Email]]
[[Category: Songs]]

Rock Opera Context

2005-04-17T03:57:52Z

GregHosting: /* Words from their context in the 125 E-mails */ Full context of #125

Below is the context of each of the words of [[Strong Bad]]'s [[rock opera]]. Each word is spoken by Strong Bad unless indicated otherwise.

__TOC__

==Words from their context in the 125 E-mails==
# [[some kinda robot]]: Do you use them for good, or for awesome? Would you like to '''join''' forces?
# [[homsar]]: Okay, so until next time, keep sending '''me''' your questions, and I will keep making fun of your punctuation and spelling.
# [[butt IQ]]: Okay, so until next time, '''on''' a scale from one to awesome, I'm super great.
# [[homestar hair]]: I mean, how come you people never play '''my''' game, man?
# [[making out]]: And then put on my hit '''single''' "You're Really Ugly (But There's Nobody Cute Around)."
# [[depressio]]: '''STRONG SAD:''' Oh yeah. I was just making him this card and gonna send him a '''hundred''' dollars...
# [[halloweener]]: You dress up like me this year and the ladies will flock to you like the Poopsmith to an overflowing '''toilet.'''
# [[brianrietta]]: Sorry to crush your hopes and '''dreams''', - Strong Bad.
# [[i love you]]: Like paint a '''picture'''... of a guy... with a big knife.
# [[trevor the vampire]]: Hi, '''everybody'''. In memoriam of poor Trevor, let's go back and revisit a few of my favorite Trevor memories.
# [[i rule]]: What, you '''wanna''' get banished?
# [[credit card]]: John, and some other people who aren't '''scam''' artists
# [[i she be]]: A guy's gotta have '''some''' standards right?
# [[duck pond]]: But I do have a pretty '''sweet''' duck pond simulator for my computer.
# [[the basics]]: You know, you bet somebody a hundred "'''bucks'''", and if they win, you give them like a hundred kicks in the butt and you call that a buck.
# [[band names]]: You know like... "LAZOR", '''or''' "BIGG NIFE", or something like "TARANCHULA" or maybe like "LIMOZEEN".
# [[studying]]: I mean, you've got the '''potential''' to get 1st, 2nd, and quite possibly even 3rd base.
# [[stand-up]]: '''LITTLE STRONG BAD:''' Is it cardboard or is it '''pizza'''?
# [[tape-leg]]: Oh wait a minute, what's that on- '''OH''', there's a little piece of tape on my shoe!
# [[spring cleaning]]: '''Oh''', I'll totally answer this one because apparently the only thing I'm concerned with is the word crap-DELETED!!
# [[cartoon]]: '''Umm...''' so this is another part where it's just me.
# [[sb_email 22]]: Whatever happened to "Cheers" or "Cheerio" or "'''Nevermind''' the Bullocks"?
# [[little animal]]: '''Um''', I don't really know. Let's find out. Oh, The Cheat! Come here for a moment!
# [[the bird]]: Psssshhh! The '''Double''' Deuce!
# [[super powers]]: '''COACH Z:''' Once again, I point the blame squarely at tight '''pants'''.
# [[CGNU]]: Do you want to be more '''awesome'''?
# [[3 Wishes]]: Look at how great I would look man. So majestic, yet so wicked '''awesome'''.
# [[1 step ahead]]: Oh, Strong Sad. '''Fancy''' seeing you here!
# [[superhero name]]: STINY! GET ME A '''DANISH'''!!
# [[12:00]]: I had the same problem, Dewey-Smith. So I called in a '''professional''' to get the job done.
# [[sugarbob]]: So sorry sweetie, tootsie-pie, sugarbob, '''funky''' bunch.
# [[flag day]]: I bet you have a '''totally''' awesome flag for Strong Badia.
# [[gimmicks]]: Supergreat, supergreat... check your email! '''Diggity''' Dear Strong Bad...
# [[weird dream]]: The United States in tight, white-brand '''underdrawers.'''
# [[sisters]]: '''Ohh''', there's two of them!
# [[guitar]]: Oh, tap your toes and check your email, oh a-tap your toes '''tonight'''...
# [[dullard]]: '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, cool, I guess you're going to go watch it now...oh, all right, man...later... '''Cool'''...
# [[helium]]: '''MARZIPAN:''' I don't know if that's entirely '''healthy.'''
# [[property of ones]]: I call it "The Property of '''Ones'''." It goes like this: The ONEitude is directly proportional to the Colditude of the ONE.
# [[vacation]]: Oh, vacation, '''eh'''?
# [[invisibility]]: I don't really think being visible prevents me from doing '''whatever''' I want to do.
# [[action figure]]: Oh man, Kyle. My '''action''' figure would have it all.
# [[little questions]]: Every age I have seen out as a '''baby'''.
# [[lures & jigs]]: '''Actually''', David, it may surprise you to hear this but, uh... I don't know anything about fishing, man.
# [[techno]]: Well, its not really my style, but I heard a techno song one time that '''went''' like...
# [[your friends]]: I was thinking about giving him a bath or something but, just the thought of that gave me the jibblies. Here they come again. The '''jibblie''' jibbles....
# [[new hands]]: '''Ooh!''' Ooh! I got it!
# [[ghosts]]: '''Oh!''' Uh...my old computer!
# [[theme party]]: Look fratty, I'm not comin' to your '''party'''.
# [[50 emails]]: More '''like''', you write a book about come-back jokes, NERD!
# [[website]]: I can safely say, that whatever idea you have is '''completely''' unimportant as long as you adhere to these fundamentals:
# [[island]]: Miami Dolphins vs. San Fransisco 49ers... '''great'''.
# [[comic]]: That turned out pretty '''good'''!
# [[morning routine]]: Yes, it's very fragile. Put it '''down.'''
# [[cheat talk]]: Some '''town''' here can't understand you. Say something normal, like-er-um-uhhh... Douglas.
# [[current status]]: Strong Bad with the '''ladies''' - Current Status: They all still want me.
# [[japanese cartoon]]: '''Get''' rid of my thumbs, make me all shiny... my boots would be a whole lot cooler.
# [[dragon]]: Close it up real good at the top for his head, and then, using '''consummate''' V's, give him teeth, spinities, and angry eyebrows.
# [[marzipan]]: '''MARZIPAN:''' Oh '''yeah''', oh yeah, and I really don't like him at all. ''{could be either "yeah"}''
# [[huttah!]]: That coulda been... '''awkward'''.
# [[monster truck]]: Aww...that's very '''sweet'''.
# [[interview]]: 'Twas the pride of the '''peaches''', huh?
# [[fingers]]: Yo Strong Bad. What's '''crackin'''?
# [[english paper]]: We just need to apply a little double-space '''action'''...
# [[unused emails]]: '''Wha-ho'''ah, Dan. You mean what do I do with the thousands and THOUSANDS of near unreadable emails I get every day?
# [[the show]]: Oh. '''Problematic.''' You know it's been awhile since I've kicked The Cheat, but I guarantee it'd be comedic gold compared to that mish-mash.
# [[autobiography]]: I wanna make fun of you but, uh, you've put together a '''solid''' email!
# [[caper]]: No, man, just the jumbles, the '''jumble'''s!
# [[personal favorites]]: '''GRAPE NUTS ROBOT:''' Things were just about to start getting '''crazy'''-go-nuts.
# [[big white face]]: I put some '''beans''' on it. You know. In case maybe you wanted beans on it.
# [[2 emails]]: Then we could have '''double''' the Strong Bad, and double the fun. ''{could be either "double"}''
# [[crazy cartoon]]: Sweet Cuppin' Cakes! '''The''' main character would look like a mix between a cow and a helicopter.
# [[mascot]]: And they won the game. So I'm getting them '''real''' fruit smoothies.
# [[privileges]]: You only need one more point to become a Medallion '''Gold''' Plus Club member!
# [[funny]]: Aunt Ruthie! Aunt Ruthie! There's ketchup on the '''computer!''' Halzee-WHOOP!
# [[sibbie]]: '''STRONG SAD:''' I dunno, some song I just downloaded off the '''Internet'''.
# [[suntan]]: They're already '''bulging''' all over the place as it is, but I guess a little more definition wouldn't kill me.
# [[anything]]: '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Have you ever made anything '''out''' of anything? Bye, Dan from FL. FL?
# [[the process]]: '''Yeah''', that's never happened either.
# [[stunt double]]: '''Oh''', I took the email to the market, and I bought it some kind of fish sauce.
# [[date]]: '''Dynomite!''' Boston, th-the state Boston's in.
# [[impression]]: But I should get going if I'm still going to be fashionably late to the '''afterparty'''.
# [[labor day]]: Wow. All of the sudden it's '''like''' the world is my place where I don't have to answer an email.
# [[kids' book]]: Some people are being '''fangoriously''' devoured by a gelatinous monster. Hillary's legs are being digested.
# [[2 years]]: And we will also have developed a '''world-class''' hole.
# [[no loafing]]: '''And''' as a result, productivity was down something-eight percent.
# [[mile]]: '''POWERED-BY-THE-CHEAT STRONG BAD:''' He can be the '''Grand''' Marshall.
# [[couch patch]]: '''Ooh''', my pal! Well Palbert, it's a good story.
# [[local news]]: '''Oh''', if you want it to be possessive, it's just "ITS." But, if it's supposed to be a contraction then it's "I-T-apostrophe-S," scalawag.
# [[colonization]]: '''STRONG SAD:''' '''Ewwww!''' Ketchup on eggs?!?
# [[caffeine]]: '''Oh-ho-ho-ho!''' (Devilish laugh.) Dear Justin, In addition to the cut of your jib, I likes the sound of your town. Murfreesboro.
# [[kind of cool]]: Anyways Jor-dan, creepy comb-over story Strong Bad is '''definitely''' a cool, cool guy.
# [[army]]: This '''definitely''' merits some further reconnaissance.
# [[video games]]: '''VECTOR STRONG BAD:''' BACK OFF '''BABY!'''
# [[the bet]]: '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' '''Yep''', I'm cool.
# [[lackey]]: Most of the emails '''I''' get are ADs.
# [[monument]]: That '''totally''' looks like my right foot.
# [[stupid stuff]]: '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No I'm '''always''' doing that.
# [[different town]]: And Pom Pom wouldn't change at all 'cept he'd '''look''' like an ABA basketball...
# [[flashback]]: '''STORYBOOK STRONG BAD:''' '''Awesome!''' My very own a The Cheat!
# [[car]]: Now you're '''singing''' the theme from "Night Court"?
# [[lunch special]]: Bubs has to give you a free lunch special if you can get him to say his name '''backwards''' - minus the first b.
# [[haircut]]: Experience the lightning brows of "Jagged '''Metal'''".
# [[theme park]]: Please keep your arms legs and valuables inside the vehicle at all times and get ready to '''experience''' the fury of The Strong Badian Riverboat Superfun... ride.
# [[replacement]]: I suppose I should cut to the chase and haul out the big guns...'''DANCE''' CONTEST!
# [[dangeresque 3]]: Today is all right for '''tonight'''... Riding in a Corvette, feeling all right.
# [[cheatday]]: Now, get upstairs - '''unh!''' And fix me some breakfast.
# [[pom pom]]: Let's see, how can we raise the stakes a little bit? '''Ooh!''' I'll be blindfolded!
# [[crying]]: '''STRONG BAD AS LI'L BRUDDER:''' '''I'm''' gonna be all right, Homestar. I can make it on my own!
# [[for kids]]: So, you can see how that might be less than '''pleasant'''.
# [[other days]]: You gots to look inside yourself! '''Positate''' the negative.
# [[old comics]]: And coming in this week at #4, it's those androgynous boys from Hertfordshire, West Is Lip, with their hit single "She Partied '''Without''' Dancing."
# [[pizzaz]]: So, Strong Bad, the peoples want to know... what's the secret to your '''pizzaz'''?
# [[the facts]]: Y'see? Misguided direction, no comedic timing, '''and''' the script is riddled with gaping plot holes.
# [[time capsule]]: '''STINKOMAN:''' It tastes like a #1 '''jam!'''
# [[extra plug]]: '''Whoa!''' Check out those lights! They're flashing!
# [[montage]]: '''Tonight''' on Strong Bad Email: Comedian Coach Z, actress Marzipan, and some guy from a zoo.
# [[virus]]: Computer over? Virus '''equals''' very yes?
# [[animal]]: 'Cept I'd also have an awesome back deck on me for dinner and '''dancing'''!
# [[radio]]: '''MORNING-SHOW STRONG BAD:''' Rise and shine, people. The fish was delish... '''CANNED AUDIENCE:''' Right! Ha ha! '''Yeah!''' '''MORNING-SHOW STRONG BAD:''' Wait for it — wait for it... and it made quite a dish.
# [[part-time job]]: I'm gonna be big one day. I'm gonna be a '''famous''' email checker.
# [[dreamail]]: '''FEMALE LAPPY:''' Well played, Strong Bad. Those '''ladies''' are sure to be all up ons.
# [[origins]]: Ugh! Why do you Van Peebles '''always''' wanna know the origins and histories of every freakin' little thing?
# [[secret recipes]]: being from Africa I'm sure you guys are used to eating, '''like,''' exotic fruits and nectars and, um, lions...
# [[rock opera]]: Famous '''FEMALE LAPPY:''' Ladies '''STRONG BAD:''' always like '''ALL:''' '''SBEMAIL!!'''

== Complete Lyrics ==
Here are the full lyrics without any annotation:

<pre>Join me on my single hundred toilet dreams picture.
Everybody wanna scam some sweet bucks or potential pizza.
Oh! Oh! Ummm. Nevermind.
Ummm... Double pants.
Awesome, awesome fancy danish.
Professional funky totally diggity-underdrawers.
Oh tonight, cool, healthy ones, eh?
Whatever action baby actually went jibblie.
Ooooh! Oh. Party like completely great, good.
Down town ladies get consummate, yeah.
Awkward sweet peaches crackin' action!
Wha-ho! Problematic.
Solid jumble!
Crazy beans double the real gold!
Computer internet bulging out. Yeah, oh!
Dynomite afterparty!
Like, fangoriously world-class and grand.
Ooooh! Oh! Ewww! Oh-ho-ho-ho! Definitely, definitely baby.
Yup, I totally always look awesome singing backwards metal.
Experience dance tonight! Unh!
Oooh! I'm pleasant.
Positate without pizzaz and jam!! Whoa!
Tonight equals dancing, yeah!
Famous ladies always like SBEMAIL!!!!!
</pre>

[[Category: Strong Bad Email]]
[[Category: Songs]]

Talk:Rock Opera Context

2005-04-17T03:55:10Z

GregHosting: /* SBEMAIL */

== Not too much, not too little... just right ==

Make sure there's enough of the quote so that avid fans of Homestar Runner can glance at it and think: "Ah ha! I remember that one!" Often not much is needed; the title of the email is usually enough of a clue. But in several cases, like the few I've listed below, perhaps a little more is warranted:
*caffeine - The quote is generic enough that "Dear Justin..." helps tremendously with the context. I'd stop there (after "Justin"), except I really like the sound of his town: Murfreesboro.
*your friends - This one's the longest, but here's a good example of where all of it is necessary. Nothing can be left out without leaving out something important.
*local news - You gotta have the whole grammar song. Scalawags.

[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:18, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Early contributions==

I've filled in every non-ambiguous word (that is, every word that isn't heard more than once by the appropriate speaker in the email in question.) Maybe later I can help argue about which occurrance of each and every word is the correct one, but for now I gots to jet. Put the inevitable arguments... er, debates... here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:12, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
:<s>Oh, shoot, I didn't read this and just started filling it in with the first occurrence of every word. You may want to revert some of those. I'm really sorry!</s> okay, undid all of them except extra plug, which is pretty definite.

== Devilish laugh ==

Okay, go ahead and continue the context. But the "devilish laugh!" must stay there because Strong Bad says it, and it's the closest thing to the Oh-ho-hos. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:01, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Character Name Modifications ==

I'm thinkin' we should un-bold the characters; that is, if another character says the quote. I was reading through it and kept getting caught up with the said bolded character names and bolded words. Maybe we should alter the character names to italics (or something other than bold). Comments? →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

*I '''GRAYED''' the names of the characters. I figured the only way to find out whether we all thought this was a good idea or not was to do it and let people see how it looks. If people like it, then we'll keep it. Or if there is a concensus that we need to change it back, then we can, but ''please don't just revert the page until people have had a chance to try it out and chime in with their opinions.'' -- [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:57, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

Ah. I like it. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]
**I've had a chance to really look at it, and I can say I like it, too. → [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

== radio ==

I swear, [[radio]]'s word is incorrect. The Deathly Pallor sounds nothing like the "yeah" that's actually used in the song. In actuality, I think that it's one of the "yeah"s said by the audience (of sorts) during the "drive time morning show" part. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:48, 24 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Good catch, Shadow Hog. You're absolutely right. It shall be fixed posthaste!

:On a similar note, I don't think the "I" is right in "lackey" (I think it's the one after the one listed), and I haven't had a chance to investigate whether the right "pizzaz" is in "pizzaz". -- [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:36, 24 Feb 2005 (MST)

:The canned audience person says "yeah!" twice during radio. Is is the first one or the second one? Does it matter?

:It's the first one. I saved the sound clips as .WAVs and compared them back to back. And of course it matters (well, maybe not in the grand sceme of things, but it ''is'' nice to get as close to all of these correct as we can). -- [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:34, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Good Job ==

Good Job guys, I didn't have the patience to go through all ‘dem songs and figure out which word was whose. Well Done! [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 20:42, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Holy cow!! This is '''INCREDIBLE'''. I love this wiki. [[User:JoeyDay|<nowiki></nowiki>]] —[[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] [[User talk:JoeyDay|(Talk)]] 09:26, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Yeah, I recently used this page to show a friend just how cool we all are. Seriously, how cool is this!?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 10:09, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

==SBEMAIL==

Um, #125 is referencing itself. 125 is when he says the name if the opera is Sbemail, not when everyone shouts it. That's the lyrics itself. [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 09:30, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Although the last word is, on the one hand, referencing itself, the list is still correct the way it is. The last word can come from anywhere in the email (all the way from "loading" through to The Paper)... On the other hand, it would be more accurate to say that the last word doesn't reference ''anything''.

:Here's why: The first 124 words are ''direct audio samples'' of the previous emails (as opposed to, say, Strong Bad merely reading them from a list), but the 125th word is not sampled from anywhere — it's ''original'' in its own right, and therefore appropriate for the list.

:You can tell that the two instances of the word are different, because when Strong Bad says "sbemail" as he's typing, it's not as drawn out or as shouted as at the end. Second, and more important, '''Strong Bad is alone at the beginning, but the ''whole cast'' yells "SBEMAIL!!" from the stage''' (except The Poopsmith, I suppose, and possibly The Cheat, too, now that I think about it).

:— Cheers! [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:19, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I'm going to go ahead and put in more of the context of #125. For some reason I think it's funny. If you disagree, revert. --[[User:GregHosting|GregHosting]] 03:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==Making Pictures==
On the rock opera page, someone suggested that there should be a picture from every email showing the context of each word. I'm currently working on making them. Do people 1) think this is a good idea and 2) have ideas on how to integrate them into the page? I was thinking a table like the one on Floppy Disk Container Plus. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 12:39, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
:I dunno. It would be cool, but it would be rather space consuming, too. I like being able to look at the words in the list at a glance. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 13:29, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
:I've currently made them through "i she be". Maybe there could be a second "context" page with all the pictures? [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 13:55, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I say make them all the same size and put them in a gallery at the bottom of the page, similar to the one on [[Toilets|this page]]. I won't mind something like that; it would be rather nice.--[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 16:11, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Uh, 125 pictures is a lot. Like... almost too much in my opinion.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:30, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
::::Maybe if you could stuff 'em all into an animated gif? If that's even possible here... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 17:34, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::::Perhaps an ''audio'' clip of each line would be more appropriate. That is, after all, what the rock opera is—a collection of audio samples. If we do go ahead with the screenshots, I don't think they should be up in the list itself, since the line spacing looks good as it is now. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:35, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::::I suppose just watching the email is enough in this case. I don't think we need audio samples.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:40, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Well, the pictures are being made, because I feel like it, mostly (I've almost finished the Tandy mails). I could probably make an animated gif of them, but it would be large and kill any 56K modems.... I'll probably put all this stuff (pics) on my webspace anyway, so maybe you could just put an external link? I could also make all the pictures smaller (like, smaller than the thumbnail size). [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 18:07, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2005-04-17T01:18:28Z

GregHosting: /* Dumpy Dump sat on a wall */

__NOTOC__
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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[impression]]===
====What year is it?====

The form for the penmanship contest says 2004 Sectional Finals, however, the sign for the contest said 2003.
*'''Decline.''' The email was made in 2003, at which time they were having the fourth annual Strong Sad lookalike contest. (Meaning they had been going on since 2000.) Strong Bad had already lost in 2003, so he was signing up to compete again in 2004. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Accept''' There is nothing anywhere in the email to imply the above scenario. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 07:12, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**PS. In fact, looking over the transcript again, UYB's scenario is flat-out WRONG. SB says he already won the Penmanship Award (as in, it already happened), and lo and behold, the form that he's apparently using to "sign up for next year" already has a blue ribbon on it! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 08:00, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Oh, I see... TBC forgot what year it was. That's a little... weird. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
****'''Comment.''' I just watched it again and yes, Strong Bad apparently won the 2004 penmanship award in 2003 somehow. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Accept''' It's a fine fact. Though I am confused why TBC did this... -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:31, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:42, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[dangeresque 3]]===
====Constantinople?====

The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.
*'''Decline.''' Istanbul is often used in the movies as a dangerous and exotic locale. Any resemblance to a TMBG song, living or dead, is purely coincidental. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's also [[Wikipedia:Istanbul|a real place]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Today's forecast is '''total crap.''' When will you people learn the difference between references and coincidences? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:37, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*"May be"...ugh. '''Decline''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' This fact wasn't just added to the page yesterday; it's been there for ''nine months.'' It's listed in the history as far back as you can go. Thousands of visitors to the page have already seen it and have tacitly given it their approval. The comments above make it sound like there's ''no chance'' that TBC chose Istanbul intentionally, but let me '''put it in context:''' in the few weeks leading up to this email, there were several [[Puppet_Jam:_Vitamins/Celebrities|Puppet Jams]] added to the site. Just a few weeks after the email, [[Experimental Film]] was released (so, being a song, it was likely already in the works at the time of the email). And you're telling me they ''didn't'' have TMBG on the brain? I don't think so. Too coincidental. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:41, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' What It's dot com said. Believe me, if you listen to TMGB for too long, it's hard to think of Istanbul without mentally adding "...not Constantinople..." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:37, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Discount Flashback Warehouse====
In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad sounds a lot like Senor Cardgage. In fact, the whole easter egg resembles the Senor Cardgage Mortgage toon.
*'''Declinating the countryside, declinating the peasants...''' Of COURSE Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage sound similar - they're alternate versions of the same character. As for similarities between the two, all I see is that they're both commercials. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 11:48, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:40, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster''': After watching it a couple more times, I see that the second part is quite a stretch. As for the first part, I think I need to clarify: Strong Bad ''talks'' like Senor Cardgage, i.e. he uses a monotoneous voice. (Nice decline message tho'...) Therefore, the fun fact '''rephrased:''' In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad's style of speaking is similar to that of Senor Cardgage.
*Excardon me, but what differation does that make, Valerie? '''Decriminoted (decline).'''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*Okay, maybe it's just me, but does anybody else notice that Strong Bad's voice is kinda rasp and expressionless? That's whay I'm basing the whole thing on.
*'''Decline''' Matt Chapman can only do so many different voices, and it makes it especially hard to try and do two alternates to the same character. Strong Bad also does somewhat of a Senor Cardgage voice at the end of [[theme park]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Comment''' One might also add that both seem to have a common source. That is, the cheap television ads that small businesses create. If you somehow don't know what I'm talking about, just watch a local network for a little while, you'll see and hear plenty of dead air, gaudy graphics, poor diction, and bad acting. Actually, I don't know how you can fully appreciate Homestar Runner without having watched even that small amount of tv.
**SIGN YOUR VOTES! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***"Comment" is not a vote. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:27, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* '''D3kl1n3!!''' I didn't bother to read all this to see if somebody had already said this, but The 'Discount' bit came before 'Senor Cardgage' bit. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 02:50, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Here comes the Thnikka-Decline-Man!''' Um, its also a second with kerrek slaya, but sewiously, this did come out before [[Senor Mortgage]]. Check yer facts, folks. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:43, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[replacement]]===
====Strong Mad sings====
Strong Mad says "I'M STRONG MAD," which could be a reference A Jumping Jack Contest, in which Strong Mad poses as Strong Bad and says a similar line.

*'''Delorted''' This is just the kind of stuff Strong Mad says. Plus, "could be's" are 110% STUFF-worthy. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:01, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* Or maybe he's just saying "I'm Strong Mad". Turn off your geekdar, kthx '''Delteated''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Pointless''' Strong mad says this '''A LOT.''' [[user:OWIE!|OWIE!]]
*'''Severe delcine!''' I mean, decline. Severe. Severe decline warning. I mean, [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline!!''' Oh my god! Strong Mad said "I'M STRONG MAD" in the same tone of voice he said "GARBLEDINA" in the Facts! It has to be a reference!
*'''Decline''' Strong Mad's lines rarely vary.
*'''INFINATELY SEVERE DECLINE-erson''' It sound alot more like a refrence to his own name! Why is it wierd for Strong Mad to introduce himself???? IT ISNT! --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:38, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*-erson, even though I know it's you, SIGN THE VOTE. And that goes for everyone else. In fact, I move that we start deleting unsigned votes. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:33, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Whoops, did I forget to sign? I keep doing that. Ok, its signed now. Sry.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:38, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:35, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Duh. '''Cedline. Wait...''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Dacheated almost beyond all recognition or how I learned to stop worrying and to Decline the bad fun facts-erson.''' This is not a fun fact exactly. Its a "It could be," anyway. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:39, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**You -erson theif!!!!! Oh well, at least its gaining popularity.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:23, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[spring cleaning]]===
====DELETED!====
The "DELETED" screen has a green background on the Tandy. When later used on the Compy, it has a blue background. It has not been used on the Lappy thusfar.

'''VERDICT:''' This information has been '''moved''' to the [[DELETED]] page. The votes have been moved to [[Talk:spring cleaning]]

===[[rampage]]===

====Poetic chops====
Ironically, while Strong Sad glorifies iambic pentameter, his creation is a pretty bad example of it. He twists the stresses on "lyric rampage," properly pronounced LY-ric RAM-page (a pair of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trochee trochees]), into ly-RIC ram-PAGE (a pair of iambs).

*'''Decline.''' I agree with what you're saying. Also, it's not much of a rampage to be reciting at a rate of 2 syllables per second. However, I don't think anyone learns anything from this fun fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait a '''Second!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny that Strong Sad has to artificially make trochees into iambs, but maybe I'm just a nerd. Anyway, I'm sure not everyone will know this, so accept! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:38, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Sign yer vote!
**'''Weak Second to a Strong Accept.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third the Nerd''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''seconding the third''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''seconding the seconding of the third of the...whatever. I agree.''' [[user:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
****'''20x6ing the 1936''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''''

====Strong Sad, Charles Barkley, and Ruben Studdard...long lost triplets?====
Strong Bad's insult of "round mound of gray fatness" towards Strong Sad could be derived in part from the nickname of former NBA player [[Wikipedia:Charles Barkley|Charles Barkley]], the "Round Mound of Rebound." Also, Ruben Studdard, who won [[Wikipedia:American Idol|American Idol]] in 2003 and bears more than a slight resemblance to Strong Sad in shape, is sometimes known as the "Round Mound of Sound."

*'''Decline.''' Before Jay gets to it: This, that, and the other... If it's been used more than once elsewhere, it's not a specific reference, and therefore, unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:09, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** Well, this is two unrelated things, and (if it's true) exactly one of them is it, but we don't know which. Not EXACTLY the same thing as my usual "this that and the other thing" complaint -- ''but'' -- it's too much of a stretch in either case without some extra info, so I do have to agree with '''Decline'''-ing it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Barkley and Ruben don't even look alike, much less Strong Sad. 20:52, --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Comment.''' A little Googling shows that [http://www.luma-electronic.cz/lp/p/Kenny/price_k_walking.htm Kenny Price] was the first Round Mound of Sound, way back in 1969. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Is the SB's insult of the "Round Mound of [something that rhymes with round and mound]" type? Of course it is. Is it notable? Given that the reference has been around for at least 36 years, probably not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Sad is round, a mound, gray, and fat. The only thing Strong Bad's insult is a reference to is Strong Sad's appearance. Can you streeeeeeeeetch? -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:46, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Round Mound of Decline''' Does "Gray Fatness" rhyme with "Round" and "Mound?" [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Rewrite''' it into something a bit more streamlined. Something like: "'Round Mound of Fatness' is a reference to other characters such as Kenny Price, the 'Round Mound of Sound', and Charles Barkely, the 'Round Mound of Rebound'". I like this Fun Fact, though.

====Dumpy Dump sat on a wall====
Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "DJ Dumpy Dump" could be a combination reference to the rappers DJ Jazzy Jeff and Humpty Hump (who Coach Z once dressed up as for Halloween). It may also be a reference to rapper Doug E. Doug.

* '''Decline''' all but Humpty Hump - it's the only one close enough. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:02, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise''' As said above, just stick with Humpty Hump. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 20:16, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' Now then, if he was being called "DJ Dazzy Dump", I'd agree that it might also be a reference to jazzy jeff. But that's not what's going on here. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Humpty Hump is a fairly clear reference, I think.
*'''Accept''' I don't get it. It seems to me it pretty clearly a reference to DJ Jazzy Jeff. I am sure the Brothers are familiar with both. Doesn't it seem likely that they were refering to both?[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Uh... no?''' It matches Humpty Hump with about three letters' difference. It matches Jazzy Jeff with about ONE letter's similarity. Why does it have to be both? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Silly''' They both sound a lot like it, but DJ Jazzy Jeff has the 'DJ' and the exact same rhythm. It is silly to just go by the letters.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*** If it's VERY close to one and SORTA KINDA VAGUELY IN A WAY close to the other, why even entertain the sorta kinda vague one? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** DJ Jazzy Jeff is not the only rapper with 'DJ' in his name. That's not a specific reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:32, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** While this is true. I am hard pressed to think of one that sounds so much like DJ Dumpy Dump. Clearly I am losing this vote. (Although four to one is a pretty small sample. I have checked with friends here and they agree with me for what it is worth.) I really honestly believe it is a reference to both. I would be extremely surprised to find that The Brothers were not aware of how much it sounds like both of them. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Decline all.''' It's not a specific reference to any of those - it's a reference to Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "dumpus". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well, that TOO... but it's pretty close to Humpty Hump, so I wouldn't discount the reference possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***I know it was obvious - I'm just skeptical of any of these. It could also be a reference to Marky Mark, or Easy E (sic), or Flavor Flav, or... you catch my drift? Having the _____-y _____ thing for a name isn't THAT uncommon - and in this sense, if you've got people coming up with three or more '''possible''' references, well then perhaps it's not actually a specific reference, and as such, it probably shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DJ Decline''' There are more than one artist whose stage names begin with "DJ." There's no similarity between "Dumpy Dump" and "Jazzy Jeff." Go away. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' If you can't prove it, don't post it. I will say that the Dumpty Hump reference is the most likely one, especially if TBC have referred to the guy before. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''And a comment''' I'm seeing more and more people getting blunt or just plain rude with how they reject fun facts. I can appreciate this (alot of the supposed "facts" annoy me) but maybe its time the rules were revised a bit. Maybe limit the types of facts accepted or post clearer rules at the top of the page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' at least Humpty Hump. I also support keeping DJ Jazzy Jeff. Get rid of Doug E. Doug. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:59, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite.''' Ditch DJ Jazzy Jeff and Doug E. Doug.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' First thing I thought of was Jazzy Jeff... Then again, I'm rap-ly challenged. Humpty Hump for sure. [[User:SP|SP]]

====Wite Wrapper====
The fact that Strong Sad's "whiteness" is acknowledged on his CD refers to famous white rappers such as [[Wikipedia:Eminem|Eminem]] and [[Wikipedia:Vanilla Ice|Vanilla Ice]].

* '''Del taco... wait...''' Hey, boys and girls, let's see how far we can streeeeeeeeetch Fun Facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:40, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' Yeah this one is really stretching.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
** '''Second to last place.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 02:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Ding!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* ... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:07, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I agree that it is a reference to white rappers. The problem with this fun fact is 1)the joke is obvious and 2)Eminem is considered to be a GOOD rapper (even though I can't stand him) while Strong Sad is meant to flop. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:42, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''I think this one is worth our time, maybe we should accept it--DECLINED!''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline''' Hold on The Cheat! We're gonna stretch this fun fact to the MOOOOOOOOOOOOOON! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:22, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline. White is the color of his face. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' based on the fact that it's common household knowledge (well, some households) as far as white wrapperas and jokes about them go.--[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]

====English Lesson====
(under the ''quiver(ed)'' definition) In early Modern English, it would have been written "Quiver'd" (not to be confused with 404'D, Cerebellum'D, etc, etc.).
* '''Decline'd''' Don't worry, I wasn't confused in the slightest. Except, perhaps, as to why you made this 'fun' fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:46, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline.''' Number A, this is not interesting or relevant. Number B, how do you know Strong Bad didn't say it like Quiver'd? Quivered and quiver'd would be pronounced the same way. This shouldn't have even been STUFF'd. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:52, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**A,B,etc... are not numbers.
***You aren't a regular, are you? -Walking Armless
**Heh... good point on B, mibluvr13. I don't know why that didn't cross my mind when I STUFF'd this. Guess I was just thinking blindly about what was in the transcript without thinking about the actual toon. '''Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:01, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====I'm on a Rainbow====
Strong Bad capitalizing "Reading Rampage" in the e-mail could be an allusion to [[Wikipedia:Reading Rainbow|Reading Rainbow]], the popular 90's children reading show.
*<strike>'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:49, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)</strike>
*'''Accept/Rewrite''' I don't like the phrase "could be" in that statement. But you might be on to something there --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline''' 100% pure Florida natural SPECULATION! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline.''' How is capitializing a phrase a reference to anything? And it's still a stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**I submitted this fun fact because Strong Bad didn't capitalize any other rampages he mentioned, and looking at the phrase capitalized, it kind of looks and sounds like Reading Rainbow, at least alliteratively. It was the first (and so far only) thing that popped into my head as to why it was capitalized. Just wanted to state my case, whether or not it matters. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 17:26, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Heck no at all.''' This is a stretch and three quarters. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' That's pretty clever, actually! I like it. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Being clever is far from a prerequisite for a fun fact. Anyway, '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:13, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''SEVERE Decline!!!''' Anyone who thinks that is a reference needs to have their brain checked, no offense. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Are you kidding me? There's serious doubt. But not about whether this fact should be '''DECLINE'D!!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' If there's no certainty of the connection, it shouldn't be listed. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''VOTE CHANGE! SECOND!''' That's true, Beatfox. I think the only reason I voted yes before was because it sounded hillarious as a spoof...I mean, Reading Rainbow...Reading Rampage? Hahahahaha! Someone ought to make a flash 'toon about that![[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:45, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.'''If you do a google search for the phrase "reading rampage", you will see that there are a great many libraries in the U S of A that sponsor reading rampages! Still, I like the way you think. It's a stretch, but clearly you have a good sense of humor :)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:18, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*My Land! [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=reading+rampage Google] ''does'' show lots & '''lots''' of Reading Rampages going ORRRRF in the USA! This is more that just a stretch. The fact as written is just plain wrong. This is a real-world reference. I'm upgrading my vote to an '''Infinite Decline with a Major Rewrite.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:36, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline''' I think that although this could be a connection, I think that it's stretching it a little. Strong Bad ''vaguely'' says it like Reading Rainbow in the e-mail, but not so much that it stands out to you. I could see why you'd say this, but I still think that you're probably incorrect. -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 4:08 PM, 15 Apr 2005
*'''New Trell''' You do happen to provide sufficient reasoning for the Reading Rainbow reference, but the past comments on Reading Rampages are also... well... I DON'T KNOW. I'M NEUTRAL, I DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING! ...Yeah [[User:SP'd|SP'd is crazy]]

====Marzipan's Speech Impediment====
Marzipan seems to stutter uncharacteristically during the phrase "would be proud."
*'''Accept.''' I thought this was a rather unusual observation on a character who's normally very proficient with her speech. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:05, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' For once, I think this is legitimate. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 13:19, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It sure doesn't sound like "Geoff Chaucerbury" to me! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice this. Very nice. Clap, clap. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:53, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Because, uh, why does it need to be in Fun Facts? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:23, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' It's noted in the transcript (would be is written twice). --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 01:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' True, but it's not immediately obvious to the casual reader. It could easily be overlooked or mistaken for a typo. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:39, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Countercomment''' Dan vs. Jerome was similar in its construct - it was in the transcript but non-obvious. It was declined too. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 07:16, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:52, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a side of DECLINE!''' Sounded more like a simple flash goof to me. Nothing worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment''' Whatever it is, it's not a glitch. I checked it out in a sound editor. Not only are the two "would be's" unique, they make up one continuous phrase. There's no discontinuity in the waveform, and the tone of voice transitions seamlessly. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:14, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' -- I believe it's worth noting on a few counts. First, it's unusual for TBC to make this kind of goof. Second, it verifies what people believe they've heard. Third, it prevents people from trying to read into the dialog what's just not there (e.g. Geoff Chaucerbury). There! I doubt I swayed any of the Decliners, but I've had my say! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Pie, Anyone?====
"The pie's the limit" may be refering to Strong Bad's wednesday pie motivational talks in [[other days]].
*'''Decline.''' Just because it contains "pie" doesn't necessarily mean it's a reference. And I don't like the "may be". [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:54, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I want to accept this, I really do, but there's just not enough there there. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:58, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''I can't think of a Decline pun right now''' Well, in my opinion, it's just a play on "The Sky's The Limit." Pie is actually a pretty widely used running gag on H*R, including the pie motivational talks mentioned earlier, piemonade, etc. So if anything, this should be in some other section. [[User:SP|SP]]
'''Decline''' Hot soup is on my eye![[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' "The pie's the limit" is a reference to the old saying "The sky's the limit." Strong Bad was just being silly by saying pie instead of sky. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===Chicken Soup for the Soul===
One of the books seen during Strong Bad's "reading rampage" is titled Soup, Right?, a reference to the "[[Wikipedia:Chicken Soup for the Soul|Chicken Soup for the Soul]]" book series.
*'''Decline.''' Stretchy stretchy Stretch Armstrong! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:32, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:00, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I am sure this is an intentional reference.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I can see this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' They stretch you, and stretch you, and STREEEEEEEETCH you! --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' No more a stretch than the ''For Jerks'' book referencing the ''For Dummies'' ones. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Except that "Soup, Right?" doesn't sound at all like Chicken Soup for the Soul, whereas "(Topic) for Jerks" is just like "(Topic) for Dummies".
*'''Decline.''' Soup, Right? could be short for "Soup Done Right" or something like that. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 13:20, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No way, Lucy.''' Sharing one word doesn't make it a reference. Seriously, people, you're not even trying anymore. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' You're stretching! Like RB said: It's only sharing ONE word!! Come on, people!! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:29, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Not trying? Seems more like they're trying too hard. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Delete.''' There's not way that that is a reference. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:37, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I based my vote based on the fact that the books Strong Bad is reading are meant to sound like advice books. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DELORTED!''' That almost definitely doesn't have anything to do with anything. That's like saying "Sweatshirtguy" is a reference to Rocky.
*'''Insert witty DECLINE comment here''' MAJOR STRETCH! Just cause they share the same word doesn't mean they're related. Wow. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Accept''' Definately a reference
**'''Sign teh vote!''' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 00:02, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Norse mythology====
The line about making people from spit may be a reference to a Norse myth, in which the Aesir (war gods) and Vanir (fertility gods), to seal a peace treaty between them, made a man (named Braugi) from their collective spit. He knew all their combined secrets, but was eventually killed by giants.
*'''Decline.''' It's more likely a reference to the fact that spit contains DNA, and it may one day be possible to clone someone from their DNA. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Third''' Coincidental. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* While I'm suprised about how much you know about Norse Mythology...'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Uh... no. While that's a very well thought-out reach, it's still a reach - the reference is to cloning from DNA. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:12, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' It's probably a reference to DNA and cloning. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:24, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* You obviously put a lot of work into this one, but unfortunately, I must '''Decrine.''' As said by other folks above, it's a reference to cloning from DNA. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:49, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept.''' This is a FUN FACT! Mind you, I highly doubt this is what TBC were trying to reference, but my life has been enriched by reading this. I would suggest rewriting it, however, to say "There is a story in Nordic mythology in which the Aesir (war gods)...." This way, there's no suggestion that TBC was trying to reference this fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[pizzaz]]===
====Third Interview====
This is the third time Strong Bad has interviewed somebody. He "interviewed" [[Homsar]] (actually himself speaking for Homsar) in the email "[[interview]]" and he interviewed [[Homestar]] in the toon [[The Interview]].
*'''Accept.''' Nice one. [[User:hamrodrunner|hamrodrunner]]
*'''Decline.''' This should never have been STUFF-ed. It should have been deleted outright. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:48, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' To paraphrase a below quote, fun facts aren't made to count how many times things happen. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline to the moon''' Firsts are noteworthy... thirds aren't so much. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move/revise''' How about moving it to the Fast Forward of the "interview" e-mail and saying something like "Strong Bad also conducts interviews in [[The Interview]] and [[pizzaz]]." [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 17:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**How about not? Noting how many times Strong Bad conducts interviews isn't fun - anybody watching those e-mails can tell for themselves whether or not he's conducting interviews. And the fact that the two toons being referenced actually have the word "interview" in the title makes this one even more obvious and unnecessary. '''Declined''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Nobody cares. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Severe Decline!''' First times are somewhat interesting, second times are not, and third times are hazardous to your health.
*'''Declination Nation.''' No offense, man. I mean, you should get credit for trying, but it's just, well, boring. No one cares.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
====CREEPING floating DEATH flashlight====
When everyone is telling ghost stories, no one actually holds the flashlight with his or her hands. It just sort of floats in front of everyone. With Homestar, Marzipan, and the King of Town, this makes sense, since none of them have visible hands, but we should see everybody else's hands.

*'''Decline''' I suppose that they couldn't be seen holding the flashlight, but their arms could be behind the black circle, so...nope. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:59, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Declinez0rs''' Didn't we already see this? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:09, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Second''' I believe so, but apparently the person who posted this goof moved it back when he found it STUFF'd, so it was STUFF'd again. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[Fhqwhgads]]===
====Not Expecting====
Fhqwhgads actually just sent the Email as a joke. It was not intended to be used. However, Fhqwhgads, whose personal information will not be revealed because of a request not to, did say this in an AIM conversation: "I didn't spoof a virus. I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." If you don't believe this, you can contact him-his AIM screename is IamFHQWHGADS142. (He has pride that he is Fhqwhgads) -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]]
*'''Decline (unless you can show proof)''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:29, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13 (who forgot to log in)]]
**'''Thurd''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:05, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:53, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Seconated!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 03:55, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.'''[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:45, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*I PUT more proof, but that was also deleted by another member for no apparent reason. I don't get it with you people. Do I have to give the guy's AIM address or something?!
**Where?! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:22, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Sorry, forgot to include the change-in-question. I replaced the old one with it, so it can be viewed above...
** ''{views change}'' That's not even slightly like proof. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:27, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** '''Agreed''' An anecdote - especially one that you could be making up - is not proof. I'm not saying you're lying. You may not be. But you have no proof. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:29, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I put another version up with his address. I really hope you guys take that as proof, cuz if not that I dunno what.
** '''Not Proof'd'''' An AIM isn't much proof. Can you proof that the AIM is from the real, one and only fhqwhgads? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Actually, come to think of it, this isn't even from "i love you"...I put it in "Fhqwhgads."
*'''Decline''' Hey, I programmed that game where they got Strong Bad's name from! I'm typing this on the internet so it must be true! It could be true, but considering that this comes down to a matter of "he says, we says" I gotta decline it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*Oh, so you're sayin' I'm lyin', huh? Well I'm not...what would I put it up for? Publicity? I didn't give my name OR his. Well, whatever. I give up. For now. But I'm just tryin' to say it wasn't based on the I love you virus is all. I dont care about any of the other stuff. It's just what's there now is an incorrect statement, and I want people to know the truth is all-[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]]
*Anyone could claim to have sent any paticular e-mail. We're not saying you're lying, we're saying that you're going to be 1100hard up to prove it %100. For now? This isn't your website, you can't force people to accept a "fact" that has been reasonably rejected. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**I agree with you entirely. Go ahead and delete it.By "for now" I meant that if I get enough information that I think you'll like it, I'll try again (if that's okay with you guys). -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600, with his apologies to the Wiki for making such a fuss]]
*'''Compromise.''' There is an item in the Remarks section that begins with "It's been theorized that..." Isn't that what this is: another theory? Under the first remark, why can't there be another entry that reads, "Additionally, a person claiming (but not proven) to be ''the'' fhqwhgads states to have only sent the email as a joke, and that he or she was not trying to spoof a virus." It's interesting, relevant, and as written it's a fact. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:54, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Hey, that's a great idea! I was wondering if that woould work myself... Hey, everyone...I'ma edit this and then maybe can we revote? -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK]]
**'''Decline Compromise''' I say remove the theory from the Remarks section. It's just as speculative -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***You're referring to something else. -TK
***Reverted back to original STUFF. If we're gonna do that, this one needs to be closed and a new one created! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
****That's reasonable, but can we seriously try that? Please? -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK]]
*****'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I'm not convinced that an AIM User Name is enough to prove that that person is Fhqwhgads. Like Jay, I'm not saying you're lying, I just don't think it's enough solid proof. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 22:02, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**This entire thing has already been discontinued. ^_^-TK
***Discontinued? The post before mine was still voting, and it was only a day ago. I believe that the voting stops when The Eggman closes it. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 01:28, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****While I'm flattered that I seem to have become the finish line for voting on these, it's not officially my job (though I don't mind doing it from time to time). Also, I've been going by the Talk-page-accepted system of closing after no less than 2 weeks (except in a few select cases, such as the "order" issue in Rock Opera and a few others that were just inane). Also, This is my vote for a '''DECLINE''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 03:40, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.'''I feel sympathy for your plight TK. If someone wants attention, pretending to be fhqwhgads seems like a strange way to do it. All that being said, the info you provided isn't that much fun. Is there more of a story behind it? I mean, most people who e-mail strong bad do it as a joke, trying to be funny, and not because they have some urgent request or some strong passionate need to communicate something. Is the real fhqwhgads interesting? What's his motivation in life? What's his angle? If you can get some juicy facts like this, I would be on your side 100%.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:34, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Then don't you mean "revise?" But w/e. Thanks. PS, could someone PLEASE close this?! I don't even want to think about it anymore...[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:19, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====The joke theory====
- (An outcome of "Not Expecting")
- It's been theorized that this [that the email was a spoof of the "i love you" virus] is not true. A person claiming to be Fhqwhgads said he actually just sent the Email as a joke, and that it was not intended to be used. "I didn't spoof a virus," he said, "I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." However, due to a concern about personal provacy, he would not give any information. -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:36, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Still Decline''' Next thing you know the Wiki will be flooded with kids claiming to have their own story about why they e-mailed Strong Bad. Too much speculation, no real way to prove any of it. Its bad enough that we have people thinking they can get their fun facts in by putting "It may be" or "Its possible that" in with them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:33, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' I can see how we wouldn't want to let this get out of hand, but we're fighting a problem we don't even have. If people were going to randomly and falsely claim to be email authors, I think they'd already be doing it. Plus, we're not talking about accepting ''all'' such claims; we're only concerned here with ''this'' case (and if the Supreme Court of the United States can make a ruling while at the same time declaring that it ''doesn't'' set precedent, so can we). Lastly, I think TK genuinely believes to be in contact with ''the'' fhqwhgads, and that should carry some weight. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:54, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Thank you. And I assure everyone here: neither I nor any of my comrades (including Fwh) is anywhere near crazy. ^_^ In fact, I really hate nonevident and irrational claims, and I most certainly would not want the wiki to be flooded with them! But I seriously know THE Fhqwhgads -TK
*Well I genuinly think that I'm in contact with people who can't get my point. It could be true yes but he can't prove it so it shouldn't go up in any way shape or form. No different than any other fun fact that needs proof to be accepted. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline-erson''' Is it not possible that this potential AIM'er could be a fake, just claiming to be Fwh but not him truely? And, if it was the true Fwh, than wouldnt it make sence that his AIM name (IamFHQWHGADS142) wouldnt have numbers at the end, as the real Fwh would probably be the first person to make such a name and wouldnt require the numbers at the end of it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 12:45, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's NOT the Fun Fact in question. You're thinking of "Not expecting." This is different! Plus lemee just clarify this: in order to fully understand the esscense of THIS fact, you gotta forget it even HAD a predescessor (and all the information included in that one.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Well than, how did you get that information and those quotes? By talking to a person on AIM. How do you know that person was the real Fwh? You dont! Still '''Decline'''. --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:27, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' The person COULD have just wanted numbers in his screename. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 20:21, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Exactly! You tryin to say I should just be TakuaKaita? A little insulting. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]]
**'''Comment.''' The real Fwh would not have made an AIM name before writing the e-mail because it was random banging on the keyboard. Only once the e-mail had become famous would s/he have made that name. By that time, someone else likely took the AIM name first, forcing the real Fwh to add numbers.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Both versions hinge upon a quote from the purported foogoograss. The quote is impossible to verify. As a result, both fact and theory should be rejected. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:41, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[date]]===
====Ren & Stimpy XR====
The logo for the Extra Real Dating Sim XR is based on the logo for the Nickelodeon cartoon "Ren & Stimpy".
*'''Decline.''' Close, but no cigar. It doesn't even use the Ren & Stimpy font. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:24, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Weak Second.''' Hmmm... but I don't really see how this would be a fun fact... [[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:28, 8 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''decline.exe''' Seriously, if this was any more of a stretch, it could reach Mars. ... Yeah, that was bad. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:44, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DOUBLE DECLINE!!!''' Along with "seconding" with the above, I was a die-hard Ren & Stimpy fan when they still showed it, and I don't remember anything vaguely remotely relating to the sim. Even if there was, it's more of a stretch than Silly Putty . [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
**'''Second!''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:21, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[the show]] ===
====Homestar's "Arms"====
Unless Homestar is holding the microphone under his armpit when he is reciting his list, this is another one of those times when it's questionable as to how many invisible arms he has: he holds the microphone in one hand, his cards in the other, and flips them over each other all at the same time.
*'''Comment.''' I stuffed this because it's very much in question whether Homestar has invisible "arms" or some other way to "hold" objects. Opinions? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 14:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Decline.''' Because it wasn't clear in my previous comment. Anyway, I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. He doesn't have any arm holes in his shirt and the other characters call him armless. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 12:56, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' You could add this fact to any toon or email which features Homestar manipulating an object. Hopefully, we won't. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Accept.''' In how many other toons does homestar appear to be handling more objects than could be reasonably handled using two arms? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:52, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**[[time capsule]] is another example. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:55, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Hmm....even so, it's one of those things that's not very obvious. If it happened all the time, that'd be one thing, but if it doesn't happen that often, I think it's worth noting.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:02, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline!''' "Another one of those times"? For shame! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:54, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Dear Strong Bad, how do you type with boxing gloves on? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' This is one of the best Fun Facts I've seen (I'm talking about the original Fun Fact, not that boxing gloves mention). Half glitch, half major insight into the Homestar universe. Definitely a keeper.
**Sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**'''Second.''' -- One of the better ones for sure! [[User:smoothmedia|smoothmedia]]
*'''F--''' Does everything in the Homstarrunner.com world make perfect sense? Heck no at all. I think the fact that his arms are invisible in the first place is pretty weird. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:57, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Dcline''' I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. It just... floats. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:14, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I'm thinkin' Homestar's like VeggieTales. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 21:23, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Aren't fun facts supposed to be fun? This is... just silly. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:37, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise, move''' This seems like it is worth pointing out about Homestar, but if this really a common occurence(I never really thought of it before, does Marzipan ever do this?) that it should be mentioned on his character page. The reason I think this falls under fun facts is that it's unexpected and hard to notice as a result. It's easy to assume when you see Homestar holding something without hands that he essentially has invisible arms. Occurences like this supplant that notion. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Based on what people are saying, it sounds like it's not a common occurence. Only in two episodes (to my knowledge) has this been an issue: this one and [[time capsule]]. It wasn't obvious to me on watching either episode, and I'm glad someone is pointing this out!--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:44, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Buleeted''' May I remind you? Is marsipan a broom? Yo strongbad, How do you type with boxing gloves on? Where is Pom pom's mouth? You are one of these people now. Muhahahaha. [[user:OWIE!|OWIE!]]
**'''Second.''' Too technical. But people, please stop picking on him. You're being a little harsh. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 16:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' We SHOULD mention on Marzipan's character page that she looks like a broom, and on Strong Bad's page that he types with boxing gloves on, and on Homestar's page that he has no arms, etc. Just because these are issues/questions that TBC refuses to explain (yet), doesn't make issues like Homestar's strange arm-mechanics unworthy of mention. The proposed fun fact is centrally relevant to one of the main mysteries on the site. It also sheds new light on the issue by refuting a common interpretation (that Homestar has two invisible arms). It's less similar to "Strong Bad typing with boxing gloves on" as it is to "Strong bad typing with boxing gloves on and without touching the keyboard". It adds a new layer to an age-old Homestar Runner question. - Dingell
*Homestar has no arms, invisible or other wise. He simply manipulates objects. Nobody knows how, because thats the joke. Trying to apply logic to it only ruins the fun.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Accept'''- it seems that this is reasonable. [[User:computerdude33|computerdude33]]

=== [[suntan]] ===
====Marzipan's Parasol====
Marzipan is carrying a toothpick parasol one would normally receive with a tropical drink, only hers seems to be much larger than normal. Except that tropical drink parasols are modelled after real parasols . . . which are, you know, real . . .

''After a week of unanimous declines, this Fun Fact has been closed. The votes for this fun fact can be seen at the [[Talk:suntan|talk page]] of suntan.

=== [[local news]] ===
====Scalawag====
"Scalawag" may possibly be a reference to a Calvin and Hobbes strip in which Calvin and Hobbes sing the "Very Sorry Song" :
:(Calvin) "I'm sorry, so sorry I took your precious flaaaaag"
:(Hobbes) "Just don't do it again you scurvy scalawaaaaaag"
*'''Revise''' Maybe "The fact that SB ends the song with the word scalawag..." [[User:DeadGuyPerez|DeadGuyPerez]]
*'''Decline.''' Maybe it is a C & H reference. Maybe it's a reference to Southerners who supported Reconstruction. Maybe TBC just liked the sound of the word and thought it would be funny. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline.''' Geez, I already deleted this one! Scalawag is just a word. C&H didn't invent it. This is a huge stretch. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I don't need to explain this, do I? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 14:31, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Calvin and Hobbes is a good comic strip, but as with the STUFF below, it is too obtuse to be called a reference to it. (Was this written by the same person as the one below?) --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:36, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|The guy whose name is the letter after I and before K]]
*'''Declination Jackson''' So they just happen to have used the same word, and it's a reference? Not bloody likely. Besides, any fun fact with the words "may possibly be" should be burned instantly. With fire. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:01, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The word ''scalawag'' has been around much longer than ''Calvin and Hobbes''. --[[User:Uh! Bob|<tt>'''''Úħ¡ βøв'''''</tt>]] 14:51, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Buleeted''' It's a '''word!''' [[User:OWIE!|OWIE!]]
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[brianrietta]] ===
==== "Tough Guys"? ====
This is the only reference to homosexuality in the entire site, '''and thankfully Strong Bad handled it more maturely than most "tough guys" would have.'''
*'''Revise''': This is an interesting fact, but I think that the part in bold is a bit unecessary. After all, this is a knowledge base, not a place for rants. If you wanted to put something like this, I suggest doing it in the forum. Besides, this is easily infered from reading the transcript. I think that the part in bold needs to be deleted, and the rest added back into the Fun Facts. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Comment.''' I assume this is an '''Accept'''. Please sign your vote! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' This is hardly a rant. I don't think the statement loses anything by removing the "offending" clause, however. I ''would'' change "this is the only reference" to "this is one of the few references". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
**'''Comment.''' But this ''is'' the only reference to homosexuality on the site. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 12:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' It's ''currently'' the only reference on the site. For all we know, the entire cast will be outed tomorrow and it will become the ''first'' reference among many. The guidelines for this section says that facts that become easily dated are bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
**'''Comment.''' In fact, I just convinced myself that it should say "This is the first reference" -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment:'''I'm just saying that it seems like a rant to me, and it's rather unecessary (The part in bold, that is). --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Comment.''' A rant against who? Tough Guys? The comment says that SB handles the situation "maturely". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*<strike>'''Accept.''' I think it's fine the way it is.</strike> '''Decline.''' Changed my mind, the point that it's the only reference to homosexuality on H*R is debatable and may possibly change, so the fact doesn't have much of a point to it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The ONLY reference? What about in the new [[HomestarTalker|Homestar Talker]]? "Pom-Pom and Strong Bad Are Totally Going Out!" We know Strong Bad is a guy, and Pom-Pom is called '''"he"''' many times throughout the site. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Response''' Maybe "going out" just means they're going someplace together, like to a movie or something. It's possible for guys to do stuff together without it being "gay." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Wow... so many comments, but very few people willing to actually vote. This item is trying to point out something that is intended as a joke, and as such, it shouldn't need to be explained or have undue attention drawn to it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:06, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:08, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Comment''' Heh-heh. Sorry about that remark. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Accept with Revisions''' This is a time in history where many homosexuals are being recongnised. Though this, admittedly, isn't the ONLY reference, we should still note it was handled maturely. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline''' If he had handled it any other way than maturely, TBC would have been called homophobes. Doesn't matter though, I can't think of a reason why it would be important to point out a gay reference just as I can't see why it would be important to point out all the swears that have been used. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise.''' A notable fact. While not in any way offensive, the second half of the sentence is unnecessary. Revise to say "This is the first reference to homosexuality in the H*R universe." Let Strong Bad's maturity speak for itself. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Twond''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second'''. And am I the only one to think "''[[Wikipedia:Bad Dudes|Bad Dudes]]''" when hearing this? "The Cheat has been kidnapped by fhqwhgads. Are you a tough enough guy to save The Cheat?" --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:29, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Not really. But the part about it being the only reference to homosexuality might be OK.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise and Accept-erson''' As a queer myself, I feel that the last section is totally acceptable. As a tough guy, Strong Bad would have been expected to respond with aggression, rudness, etc... as other "tough guys" I know have. However, he acted out of what was expected of him, and I think that makes it interesting and acceptable. Just change "only" to "first" and you're good to go.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 12:55, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' If, for some reason, an handicapped character was introduced in a cartoon(perhaps a character without arms?), would it be a fun fact to say, "this is the first time a handicapped character has appeared"? As Bob Marley says, "until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes..."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Hom Sar Ref====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]

*'''Decline''' It doesn't sound to me like he pronounces it "gee-ames". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It is probably unintended by the creators. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:55, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' No offence, ISlayedTheKerrek, but the Homsar Main Page transcript is just one person's interpretation of what he says. When I listen to it, it could be James, but it could also be Gee-ames, too. -BlueNose
** It isn't GEE-AMES, and anyone who scrolls over the word "games" in the Homsar page will clearly hear him say James. If you hear Gee-Ames, I seriously suggest you get your ears checked. Oh, and sign your vote properly. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:45, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** Well, actually, it's a bit more ambiguous if you hover over "Games" quickly and pull the cursor away before the weight falls. But it's even ''further'' from GEE-AMES that way, so '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Homsar says no such thing. [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]] 4 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' Sewiously, this is wediculous. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:57, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Actually, it's not. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:49, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' To re-iterate: Homsar says "James," not "Gee-ames." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Sounds more like "James!" to me. --[[User:Uh! Bob|<tt>'''''Úħ¡βøв'''''</tt>]] 14:55, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Not Approved!''' Are you having a problem making a good fun fact or something? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:49, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Approve.''' What Homsar is saying on the main page actually sounds more like "Jane" to me... but "Gee-ames" sounds like the kind of things that guy says. I think I heard him say that a couple of times. - Dingell
**I'm only gonna say this one more time. It's "James." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:53, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Should you really be accepting a fact based on what you think he should say rather than what he actually does say? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*** I'm not basing it on what I think he should say. I base it on what I hear. And I hear "James." [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:52, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
****I was commenting on Dingell's vote. If you've read this section at all, you'll see I've been agreeing with you all along. Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*****Sorry, dude. Disregard previous comment--wasn't paying attention. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*I'll repeat it: it's not NECESSARILY James - try hovering over Games for just a split-second and pulling the cursor away before the weight appears. It sounds more like "Jeng" or, as Dengell said above, "Jane" - there's no audible "S". Which only makes it sound LESS like GEE-AMES, so my vote remains a decline. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:41, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Trial Game origin====

The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

*'''Decline.''' It's a reference to Space Invaders. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:03, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** Ooops, yeah, I was rather vague there, wasn't I? I didn't mean the style of game, I meant the actual nuts and bolts of the thing. The 'engine', as it were. I know such recycling would be relevant if it caused a bug or something else really obvious, like the VCR in SBEmail114 "The Facts" did, but this is harmless, so I wanted a judgement on it. [[User:The Archon|The Archon]] 18:13, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It actually uses code from the games menu '''and''' Armless Invaders. But who expects them to code a new game just for an April Fools gag? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' While I disagree that they wouldn't code a new game just for an April Fools' gag, I do agree that this fact is unnecessary and somewhat inaccurate. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 17:59, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)

I HATE EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!

====False Advertising====

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

*'''INFINITELY STRONG ACCEPT-erson!!!!!!!!!''' Why in the world was this stuffed???????????--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:25, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** '''Decline''' Because the fact is redundant? Theres already a fact explaining that the toon is a joke on pay sites. Theres also another fact pointing out that the material in this toon doesn't actually appear anywhere else on the site. ''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' It's accurate and not obvious from the page itself. I won't miss it if it gets voted down though. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:48, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I think this was ment to be an ironic insider joke. Irony does not necessarily make a "fun" fact, but maybe it can be rewritten as an inside reference. [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Accept''' Fairly obvious, but a bit of a fun fact nonetheless.[[User:GreatG|GreatG]]
*'''Strong Accept.''' This goes under the file of "not everything needs to be STUFF'd! Let's leave it to the fun facts that deserve it, guys. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:48, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' It's slightly obvious now, but the information about how many emails there actually WAS at the time will make this Fun Fact more interesting as time goes on. ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 05:04, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' Fine by me. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''ANTI-Accept''' Are all of you people serious?? If this goes up, it ought to be combined with the "this is a parody of websites becoming paysites" fact. It certainly shouldn't stand alone IMHO. It's redundant because the fact that the whole thing is based on pay sites is ALREADY STATED. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Like I said, if we accept this then we should list the other inaccuracies in the toon. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Uh, no we don't. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:27, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Uh, yes we do. There isn't anything different or special about this fact. Heck, even when they do make it to 230 e-mails it won't matter because when they reach 231 it becomes wrong again. People can get the joke without having a fun fact for it. If we accept this then we might as well list all the others. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Uh, no we don't, because not all the rest of them really deserve to be listed. This one does. And now, I upgrade my vote to '''Infinite Accept,''' with a small revision to include the e-mail total at the time. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:58, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***Donny's right, you know. Are we going to write separate facts involving the misrepresentation of "actual screenshots" or "answering machines out the wazoo"? I think the fact that currently resides on the Pay Plus page is just fine (it only mentions misrepresentation, rather than giving any and all examples), but I'd still rather combine it with the above fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:15, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' I dunno if I'm even allowed to post this. This sounds good as a fact though. [[User: MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]]
*'''Accept''' This is an amusing fact. I didn't notice it until I saw it here. The reason I frequent this site is to help me notice such things. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''INFINITELY SECONDIZING!''' I'ma change my vote a little bit: I LOVE THIS FUN FACT!!! PLEEZ KEEP IT![[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 14:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Special Appearance====
Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.

''After a week of unanimous declines, this fun fact has been rejected. You can see the votes at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].

====Whats Her Face's lack of appearance====

For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.

* '''Decline''' Noted in the transcript, and it's hardly an interesting remark regardless of such. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 07:57, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' It's certainly worth noting, and I didn't notice it the first time around. Keep it. [[User:little-man|little-man]] 14:09, 3 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline.''' Since there IS no reason for her absence, there's no reason to mention it. It's not necessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 18:01, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' And who knows how far into the preview the clip was? She may have already been killed off. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
**'''Seconding the second second?''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]

====Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio====

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].

* '''Decline'''. Umm... There are several other references to this. 1. [[Arcade Game]]: "in da basement -sb", why would Strong Bad put this if they were on the same level? 2. [[strongbad_email.exe]] (All discs): The camera transition to the Bonus Stuff menu infers that the basement is downstairs. And... that's all I can think of. --[[User:Venusy|Venusy]], 00:16, 3 Apr 2005 (BST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:35, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' In [[morning routine]] they might have just skipped the part where Strong Bad goes up the stairs for the sake of saving time. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 18:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Hear here - showing Strong Bad go up and down stairs would take a whole new set of animation. Why bother? Traversing stairs isn't integral to the toon. Also see Venusy's comment above regarding "Arcade Game". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 18:03, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*I don't have the Email DVD, so I wouldn't know. And I just thought we should point out that this is the first time we see this. I've seen Fun Facts state that it was the first instance you see something when it is obvious and probably shouldn't be pointed out. And as for the note in [[Arcade Game]], characters point out things that you can see obviously all the time, and maybe the computer room and the basement were two different rooms in the whole basement. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 10:36, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**But why would Strong Bad leave a note saying they were in the basement IN the basement? '''Decline''' --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*If you think [[Arcade Game]] is the first sighting of the difference between the computer room and the basement, then why don't you just list that under Fun Facts on ''it''? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:42, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Because the appearance in Arcade Game is self-explanatory. When someone says they're "in da basement," it's safe to assume you're going to have to go down stairs in order to get to where that person is. There's no reason to state this in that e-mail, and as such, there really is no reason for it to be stated in this one. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Decline.''' It's self-explanatory that one would need to go down into a basement. So just because a character hasn't been seen going down the stairs doesn't mean that the basement is right next to the computer room...Then it wouldn't be a basement, would it?---[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 14:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Tall homestar?====
In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!

*'''Infinite Decline.''' Unimportant. And besides, how do YOU know that 3/4 of Homestar's body is there? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' It didn't look that way to me; in any case, made-up measurements are bleh. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 14:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Homestar's two feet fell into the trap. Therefore, it's a "two-foot trap."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:44, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Two-foot second''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Accept.''' It's rare to get even a rough indication of the characters' sizes. I wonder if this is consistent with the dimensions of Strong Sad in 'The Facts' - Dingell
*'''Del Taco''' Wasn't he stopped by Strong Mad's head? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:45, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Oh, yeah. Forgot about that, didn't you, whoever posted this fun fact? Hey, Dingell, might wanna change your vote there. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:42, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad didn't take a measurement of the pit, he never had any prior knowledge of how deep it was: he expected it to be a bottomless pit, and in his exasperation at The Cheat's failure to install such, he just randomly picked two feet as a way to say it was far too shallow. By your logic, if he said one foot, Homestar would only be a foot into the pit, and if he said three feet, then Homestar would have three feet of his legs in it, and Strong Bad could have verily used either to express his lack of satisfaction. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:29, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
***'''Third!'''-[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:15, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Updated for the 90's====
Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.

*'''Decline''' - This was just a joke. Seriously. I think TBC know when they started TGS. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who forgot to login]] 5:30 PM, 5 Apr 2005 (EST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment''' But hey, did you know there were only 127 Strong Bad E-mails up when this toon was made? I think TBC know how many SBemails they've made. -- [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' Um...tell me what that has to do with me, please? -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who remembered to login today.]] 5:00 PM, 6 Apr 2005 (EST)
*I'm saying theres another fact above thats just like this one and is being accepted but is equally worthless. Wasn't meant to be personal, sorry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' Oh, well, sorry for over-reacting, then. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar]] 8:12 PM, 7 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline,''' and the fun fact in reference is worth something, unlike this, which is crap. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:49, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:24, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' But "crap" is a little harsh. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:40, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Duh.''' Did you even understand this e-mail? [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]

===[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]===
====Sweating====
Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.

*'''Weak Decline.''' I have to admit this one has had me stumped for a long time. It's the best explanation I've seen yet, but I'm not sure it's the right one. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*<strike>'''Stronger Decline.'''</strike> [EDIT:] '''Full Decline.''' Personally, I too have always wondered why he's sweating... and, who knows, maybe it ''is'' the lights—but I doubt it. There's nothing in the 'toon to even suggest the above as being more than mere speculation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:02, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline''' -- It's true that the lights of early television sets made the actors sweat a great deal. However, Mr. Shmallow is not from the 40's-50's era of television, he's from the 30's (allegedly; I'm not convinced that the Brothers Chaps can tell the difference...). [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:07, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept''' Hey, it could be true. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:22, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**But it could ''more easily'' be false. I don't think the minimum burden of proof has been met to justify including it. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Fine, then. '''Declination''' begins now! [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:07, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' Watch any of the old-timey shows and you'll see how much everyone is sweating. It was the first thing I thought of when I saw Mr. Shmallow sweat.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:20, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**The problem is that (1) they're on film, not TV, (2) nothing in the shot where he's sweating makes it look like he's under any lights, bright or otherwise, and (3) it's the only instance I can recall that a 1936-era character has sweated like this. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:24, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. 1) Being on film wouldn't change a whole lot necessarily, considering it's a low-budget-ish commercial, so, given that and the time era, it WOULD have the hot lights no matter what. 2) Would YOU want the lights visible when you're shooting? Hmm? 3) There's a first time for everything. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:37, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Stronger-est? Decline.''' Like I said below: If you can't prove it, don't post it. He could be sweating for any number of reasons. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ULTRA SUPER DECLINE''' He isn't sweating. The moon just ate him so now he's dripping with spit from its "mouth thingy".
**But his glasses were fogging up...not to say that's from sweat, necessarily...
*'''Super Accept.''' when ever I watch old black and white shows, I always see the people sweat, and also I've been in all of the school plaays and believe me... It can get really hot really fast on stage -Smooth criminal
**'''Secondidateing the countryside!''' I agree. This is a great fact and I don't see why it was removed in the first place.--[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 14:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[long pants]]===
====X-Pensive Winos====
The text "X-PENSIVE W..." appearing on Strong Bad's 'light pen' before he shakes it up may be a reference to Rolling Stones guitarist [[Wikipedia:Keith Richards|Keith Richards']] solo band the X-Pensive Winos.

*'''Decline.''' Stretchy "might be" reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Decline.''' The W is for "white". Could be a refence, but could just as easily not be. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' But we all know that the W stands for "witches' brew." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:41, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' Interesting, but it's a bit of a stretch. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 14:51, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]]

====Rodeo Hot Dogs====
"Rodeo Hot dogs" is a reference to the old Oscar Meyer mascot.

*'''Decline.''' It's not "Rodeo Hot Dogs", it's "Rodeo and Tragic Clown Hot Dogs" - meaning the word "rodeo" modifies "clown" not "hot dogs" (in other words, It's a reference to rodeo clowns). Even so, this is a huge stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' There is no stretch as there is no basis in fact for this...fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Just read the [http://www.kraftfoods.com/om/bn/c_News/news_History1.htm Oscar Meyer company history] looking for a shred of eveidence. I could have missed it, but the article didn't mention a mascot, just the weinermobile. Let's have some evidence before asserting something as a fact! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*'''decline''' I think you mean the twinkie mascot -smooth criminal
*'''Decline on two fronts.'''' I doubt the Oscar MAYER mascot is a reference, and I doubt Twinkie The Kid is either (he's just a yellow sponge cake cowboy). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:01, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Overlapped voice====
This is one of the few times Strong Bad has used his ability to overlap his own voice. This ability is first introduced in techno.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[Talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:52, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Homestar's Shoes, part 2====
They might not be blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet but actual shoes, according to [[New Boots]] anyway. He also refers to them as shoes in [[Everybody Knows It]], where he says, "So, I guess it's back to putting dog food in my shoes, huh?"

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks, this item received a single Decline vote. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Shorter E-mail====
This email is much shorter than most recent emails, being at least half a minute shy of its predecessor.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:55, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*'''Weak Accept, but Move''' Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:21, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Secone."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 04:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 20:06, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' I agree with Donnny and at is why I '''Accept.''' Why is that a reason not to accept? The standard should be that it be something amusing or interesting which someone might not notice without reading this WIKI. Why else does this WIKI exsist? [[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''accept''' When Homestar's mad, anything can happen!--[[User:mk5due|mk5dude]] 1 April 2005
*'''Decline''' My guess is that he didn't go inside the Lappy screen, but in front of it.--[[User:Bonk|Bonk]] 17:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Then how did become pixalated? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:53, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homestar entering the Lappy's screen defies the laws of physics as is. It isn't much of a stretch from there to have him appear overtop of the correction fluid. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline the Declines (AKA accept)''' This is very interesting, and I didn't even notice it until i read this. I don't understand why it was stuffed or why everyone seems to hate it so much. I think it's GOLD! [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 16:57, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Klowning Arkound====
The fact that "Kertified Klown Kare" has every word starting with K might be a reference to Krusty the Clown, from The Simpsons, who tends to use that letter a lot and is, obviously, a clown.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Self-Made Man====
Homestar saying "I'm a long-pants man, long pants long pants" is a possible reference to [[Bubs]]' [[Character Videos|Character page]] where he says "I'm a self-made man, I am I am".

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 6-3. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:57, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====2nd Homestar Crying====
This is the second time Homestar cried in an email. The first was [[crying]].

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:58, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Red Screen====
When Homestar finishes going nuts, the screen turns red, like in [[Where the Crap Are We?]].

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting this item was Declined by a vote of 5-1. Moved to [[talk:long pants]]--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Edga Jr., Tompkins, and Ron Cumberdale...long lost triplets?====
Edga Jr. bears a striking resemblance to Tompkins and Ron Cumberdale, one of the things the The Three Keepers of Trogdor turn you into if you get one of their questions wrong.

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Clanky?====
"Clanky" is a reference to the popular video game [[Wikipedia:Ratchet & Clank|Ratchet & Clank]].

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelming Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Sam I Am====
Homestar saying "I have long pants, I wear long pants..." is a reference to Dr Seuss's childeren's book "Green Eggs and Ham"

'''VERDICT:''' After two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:long pants]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Bedroom Window====
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Revise = Very Yes. Run-on sentences hurt my brain. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:42, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**It wasn't a run-on, but I still Decline. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:08, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**It totally was. It should have been broken into two sentences; somewhere between "Presents" and "but".
**'''Revise, accept''' It is a run-on scentence. Try:
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. However, in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere even though it should be in the shot.
*'''Decline''' He could just be laying at the other end of the bed, thus the room would be flipped. Gah, most of the "goofs" posted aren't even genuine and this is no exception. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This is not fun! Also, a run-on sentence needs to lack a conjunction or semicolon to be a run-on sentence, ***LACK*** an example would be this one I'm typing now. --[[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 18:44, 4 Apr 2005 (CET)
**Totally untrue. Run-on sentences can have conjunctions; haven't you ever seen someone overuse the word "and?" Example: I went to the store and I bought some candy and then I went home and then I watched TV. There are conjunctions there, but it's still run-on. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:34, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***The sentance is fine, it just uses commas in the wrong place. Still doesn't make this a good fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Seems interesting enough... and before the grammar police take over the world, it should be noted that you can't start a sentence with "however". -Dingell
*'''DECLINE, and I have proof.''' [[HR:xmas04.html|Watch the toon.]] When we first see Homestar in bed, we ''can't see the window.'' After he sits up, the camera moves, and ''lo and behold'' there the window is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Now, are we going to argue about Homestar Runner, or are we going to argue about grammar? ...Grammar!
***The original fact is not a run-on sentence. From ''The American Heritage Dictionary:'' A run-on sentence is "a sentence in which two or more independent clauses are not properly joined by a semicolon or conjunction." (This is backed up by other dictionaries.) The original fact has a conjunction (namely, ''but''), which properly joins the clauses. Therefore, although the sentence may be too wordy for some people, grammatically it's a good sentence.
***Technically, beginning a sentence with ''however'' is not wrong either. But it ''is'' poor style. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Breaking the Lappy====
Strong Bad indicates that The Cheat has a history of breaking the Lappy. Perhaps The Cheat demonstrated this tendency with the Compy 386 as well. This may explain why the Compy apparently bore a grudge against The Cheat, as demonstrated in [[couch patch]].
*'''Decline.''' First, this is really a stretch. Second, The Cheat didn't break the Lappy—Strong Bad was making that up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:03, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second.''' The Cheat doesn't break the Lappy, Strong Bad just blames him for his own problems. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I've carefully set aside the time for '''declining''' this fun fact. Strong Bad is obviously using the Cheat as a scapegoat here. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:50, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.'''[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:51, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite, then accept.''' You have a good foundation, but you rambled a little bit. I would just cut it to the fact that SB said "broke the lappy again," intending that the Cheat maay have broken it before.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 18:08, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[crazy cartoon]]===
====Sealab 2021====
"I'm gonna get you, Eh! Steve!" is a possible reference to an episode of the cartoon "Sealab 2021" called "Waking Quinn," in which a shark yells "I'm gonna get you Stinky Pete!" about seven minutes into the episode.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:crazy cartoon]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:08, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Old Characters Page]]===
====The H word====
Bubs' profile is one of the few instances that the word "hell" is used on the site, other instances being in [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] (Easter egg) and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:Old Characters Page]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:10, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[techno]]===
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

*'''Decline.''' I think the Silent Bob connection is a real stretch. The silent letter connection is much more reasonable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Revise.''' Funny, I think it's the other way around. It never occurred to me that "Silent J" would be anything but a play on "Jay and Silent Bob," but maybe that's my pop-culture-saturated brain. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:01, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The latter part doesn't work but the Silent Bob connection does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:42, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The 'Jay and Silent Bob' part is right on. The 'Jalepeño' part is wrong.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Comment.''' My brain is pretty saturated with pop-culture, too! However, it's from a time when Disco ruled and dinosaurs walked the earth! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' Jalepeño is the stretch; Silent Bob is the obviously correct one. And I haven't even watched J&SB! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:52, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I had thought he meant the fact that "Silent J" would mean he shouldn't actually say anything at all, so he was sort of duped, and he was mockingly calling him clever. I don't know. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 22:48, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm...no.Thats more of a stretch than the "jalepeno" part of the fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** I think this is what is meant as well. After reading an e-mail, Strong Bad almost always starts his response with "Well, [insert name]", or "......, eh [insert name]?" Since the writer is calling himself Silent J, Strong Bad is at a loss to use his name in his reply.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:38, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' FWIW, "jalapeño" does not in fact have a silent J. The j is pronounced like an h, but it's certainly not silent. - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:25, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' - but the only revision this needs is to remove the uncertainty, because it's clearly a reference to Jay and Silent Bob.
*'''Second''' - I immediately thought of Jay and Silent Bob. -[[User: Miss Free Country USA| Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' - I think the person who posted this fact was right. Whenever I see the name Silent J, it makes me think of Jay and Silent Bob, and I think TBC were also thinking of that. -[[User: Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[Experimental Film]]===
====Calvin and the Cotton Gin====
In a Calvin and Hobbes strip, Calvin sometimes would use "The Cotton Gin" as an answer to problems he did not know, even on math tests.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[Talk:Experimental Film]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:49, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[the bet]]===
====Forgotten Lie====
Strong bad says in the King of Town DVD that the King does not live in a castle. However, in this email he seems to have forgotten all about it.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad does things like this frequently, and it's not the first time he's lied about something, i.e. The Cheat not having a computer in [[huttah!]] -Walking Armless
*'''Rewrite and accept.''' The idea's there, but it's a little wordy. Cut it down maybe to something like "Strong Bad said in the DVD that he didn't have a castle, but aspparently he does here."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:06, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[pom pom]]===
====Bubs...greedy?====
When Strong Bad smashes his face into the wall, Bubs puts up a sign saying that face smachings are $5. When Pom Pom beats the everloving crap out of Strong Bad, Bubs puts up a sign saying that severe beatings are $10. Could Bubs be greedy?

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:pom pom]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[website]]===
====Mahir Cagri reference====
Strong Bad's closing remark that the writer of the email may be big in Pakistan tomorrow might be a reference to Mahir Cagri; a Turkish citizen whose personal website was the number one personal website of 2001.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:website]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:15, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Fourth Wall Breaks]]===
====Strong Bad wants a cartoon====
In the King of Town DVD comentary, Strong Bad complains about the King of Town having his own cartoon while he dosen't have his own.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Fourth Wall Breaks]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Hello, Viewers!====
In [insert Strong Bad Email here], Strong Bad says [insert speech here], which hints that he knows he's being watched by an audience.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Fourth Wall Breaks]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[different town]]===
====Beastie Boys====
"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [http://www.beastieboys.com/] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:different town]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:21, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[little questions]]===
====Monty Python and the Holy Subtitles====
The pseudo-Swedish subtitles are very (too?) similar to the opening credits of Monty Python's Holy Grail.

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:little questions]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[crying]]===
====Crying like we've done before====
This is the second time a H*R character cries, the first time being in [[Homestarloween Party]].

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:crying]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====All y'alls====
"All a y'alls" is taken from [[sb_email_22]].

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:crying]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[New Intro]]===
The HTML filename (intro.html) does not match its SWF counterpart, named newintro.swf. intro.swf is the Flash file for the Old Intro.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to STUFF Archive. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[2 emails]]===
====Ladies' Choice Awards====
"The 2003 Ladies' Choice Awards" is most likely a reference to "The Kids' Choice Awards", which is hosted by Nickelodeon each year.

'''VERDICT:''' After four weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:2 emails]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I disagree that anything noted as "so far" is bad (though "this is the first time" is usually more appropriate.) However, this fact isn't totally true as stated, so '''Rewrite and accept''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Cory====
The painting marked "Cory" is most likely a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]].
*'''BACLINED! Wait, no...''' OR it could be a reference to [[cheat talk]]. OR it could just be some randomly chosen name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:43, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Well, Cory from [[cheat talk]] was a real person, so TBC couldn't have come up with that. And cheat talk Cory is a city in the Homestarverse. Painting Cory and Camdidate Cory are people. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 12:54, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** So what if they didn't invent the name for cheat talk? The name still came up, so the "reference" is just as valid. And, as I said, there's the whole "randomly chosen name" scenario. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The answering machine could have been referring to a "Corey", or "Cori", not neccessarily "Cory".

===[[dreamail]]===
====those weird little kids====
It is quite possible that Strong Bad's reference to "those weird little kids" could be refering to the Scooby-Doo cartoon series.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:dreamail]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[old comics]] ===
====Strong Bad is an Old Man====
Strong Bad says that he appeared as a guest in the Castlefunnies comic strip, which he later notes was cancelled prior to the "dry pencil scare of '47". Since the email clearly takes place in 2004 (as noted at the end), this makes Strong Bad at least 57 years old.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 8-4. Moved to [[talk:old comics]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====The Strong Mad Ate Pasta Salad With Homestar's Spoon Controversy of Aught-Five====
The spoon in Strong Mad's easter egg is the one Homestar uses as "Colonel" of the Homestarmy.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:old comics]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:37, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.
*He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.
*He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.
*He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.
*He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.
 <hr>
*Keep '''Mr. Mxyzptlk''' and '''The Great Gazoo'''. Scrap the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I thought we'd already declined this TTATOT fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:50, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Albi refs Abdi?? ====
Strong calls the author of the email Albi, which is a reference to the author of the first email, [[some kinda robot]], who was named Abdi.

*'''Decline.''' Albi is short for Albin, not a reference to Abdi. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Yep. Yep. Yeap. Second.''' -Walking Armless
**'''Threecond.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
==== Guitar throw refs [[invisibility]]?? ====
When Space Gary throws his guitar and says "I guess I won't be needing THIS anymore," it is a reference to [[invisibility]]. Strong Bad says the same thing when he gets rid of the broken [[Tandy 400]] and replaces it with the [[Compy 386]].

*'''Decline.''' Inflection is different, throwing is different than knocking off the desk, and the line isn't even the same ("And don't need THIS anymore"). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Go TheEggman!!''' Uh... I mean '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:56, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
==== rrll == grrl ?? ====
The use of "rrll rrll" is probably the latest version of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]."

*'''Decline.''' The latest version, what? "rrll" is for "real", "grrl" is for "girl" - what's the relation, besides not using any vowels? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''¡Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:53, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Segundo.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:34, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
==== Rudiments ====
"rrll rrll" is a common short-hand notation for a [http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments/06longroll.html double-stroke roll], which is a percussion rudiment executed by playing two strokes on a single hand followed by two in the alternate hand and repeating.

*'''Decline''' This is more likely a variation of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]." Also, percussion stickings are written exclusively in caps; I think this reference would be more believable if the line appeared as "RRLL RRLL" in the e-mail. [[User:Svelt|Svelt]] 23:20, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Living in Houston, I hear people pronouncing "real" as "rrll" about 2,568 times a day. I took this as a joke based on southern accents. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 04 Apr 2005
*'''Accept?''' I dunno, this struck me as kinda obvious at first, seeing how the entire e-mail deals with music... [[User:SP|SP]]

====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting (and debating), this item was narrowly Accepted. It appears in a slightly rewritten form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Cancelled after first episode====
There are five shows that were cancelled after their first episode:
:'''You're in the Picture, CBS, aired 20 January 1961'''
:'''Turn On, ABC, aired 05 February 1969'''
:'''Co-Ed Fever, CBS, aired 04 February 1979'''
:'''South of Sunset, CBS, aired 23 October 1993'''
:'''Dot Comedy, ABC, aired 15 December 2000'''
Of the five, '''Turn-on''', ABC's attempt to copy NBC's "'''Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In'''," was actually cancelled by several affiliates during the first commercial break!

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Space Gary & Facegary====
"Space Gary" is almost certainly a reference to the popular JamesWeb series, [http://www.jamesweb.co.uk/index.php?jw=facegary1 Facegary].

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Parappa the Noodle ====
Bozar turning Limozeen's instruments into noodles could be a reference to the Playstation 2 game, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PaRappa_the_Rapper_2 Parappa the Rapper 2]".

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====They Might Be Giants reference?====
Larry talking about the Alternative rock band "...and the lead singer wears Glasses!" may be a reference to [http://www.tmbg.com They Might Be Giants'] John Flansborgh.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was overwhelmingly Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Flash MX====
This flash file version of this e-mail is named sbemail126_mx.swf instead of sbemail126.swf, because the email was made in Flash MX.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Rewrite this item. It appears in its Accepted form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Guy With a Metal Jaw ====
With his mechanical jaw and arm, Mitch Overlord seems designed to resemble Trap-Jaw; one of Skeletor's henchman in [[Wikipedia:Masters_of_the_Universe|the He-Man tv show]], another popular 80s saturday morning cartoon series.
:Or, Dr. Claw from the Inspector Gadget cartoon.
:Or, Baron Underbite from The Venture Brothers.
:Or, Malak from SW:KOTOR (At least with the head and voice)
::Which, in turn, could have been designed to resemble another character from an 80's saturday morning cartoon show
:Or, Hacker from Centurions (a cartoon created in 1986)

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 4-2. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== See you in syndication ====
Larry's comment joining them next time 'In syndication! Or maybe on DVD!' could be a referance to short-lived shows like ''Clerks'' or ''Family Guy'' which after they were canceled begain airing in syndicates on other networks or on collectors DVDs.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== The Beatles ====
The alternative rock band that knocked Limozeen off the charts may be a reference to The Beatles - The "girl" bassist (Paul McCartney, who was known as the "cute one"), the short-haired drummer (Ringo Starr), and the bespectacled lead singer (John Lennon).

'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Strong Bad's cancelled Animal Planet show ====
Strong Bad's show that was cancelled may also be a refrence to Limozeen in Space being cancelled during it's pilot episode in best thing. (Originally posted in [[montage]], but would make more sense the other way around and posted in best thing, IMO).

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined by a vote of 3-1. Moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Absolutely not!''' References to "This that and the other thing" are totally useless and encourage people to add to it, making it MORE useless. Maybe an Explanation or Remark, but not a Reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that. This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' You have the clear backbone for a Fun Fact, but it needs severe rewording and needs to be a little less derogatory. (sp?)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:31, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's not a Goof, because it was on purpose. I'd call it an Explanation. Don't mention a specific cartoon, as it fits the whole genre. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:32, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold is in question)

*'''Accept:''' Babylon 5 is similar enough to Groupulon 5, and it's the same genre as both Star Trek and the email itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' It's my opinion that for the reason above the Babylon reference is much stronger than the Star Trek reference. If the B5 ref is a stretch it seems to me that the ST ref is equally stretchy. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline:''' it seems too much of a stretch to me. personally i think it's just a generic sci-fi sounding name that they came up with.[[User:Keab42|Keab42]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 18:25, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Third''' Changing my vote from straight Accept, only because I noticed that it was the B5 reference that was in question. The ST:TNG reference is still solid, being that they're both the pilot/first episodes of T.V. shows that take place in outer space. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:14, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Sergeant Marshie]] ===
==== Marshie's Initial ====
His first initial is 'M'.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Sergeant Marshie]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.
*'''Severe decline.''' Since he says this in many emails, it's irrelivant which one is the "last" one. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Not important at all. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept for now.''' Once he says it again, though, it should be changed. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:28, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Well, this is a stupid Fun Fact. Do you know for sure this is the last one? And if so, are you some kind of future seer? And if so, what kind of future do you see? Do you use this information for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces with Strong Bad? He just happens to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:36, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' He means it's the last one so far genius. [[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 12:10, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' What is with the attitude? Are you badamn_187, by any chance? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:04, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' ...for the simple fact that he actually hadn't said it in a LONG time before this e-mail. I'm not going through them all to find the next closest time he says it, but a slightly more acceptable form would be, "This is the only time since [whatever] that Strong Bad has ended an e-mail with a line that includes 'So until next week'..." and even then, it's a tenuous item. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This shouldn't have been STUFFed. It should have just been deleted. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:04, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".
*'''Weak decline.''' Doubtful. "appears to be very similar." So you're not sure whether or not it's similar? I think that TBC just wrote their own stuff. Even if it appears to be similar, that doesn't mean it had anything to do with the creation of the the song. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:23, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe second'''Severe seconding a weak decline,--[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis
*'''Severe decline.''' Just because something sounds like something else doesn't make it a reference. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:41, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Severe Second''' --[[User:67.177.52.133|67.177.52.133]] 17:28, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Ticked-off Third''' -- I just think it's stupid. That's all.
*'''ULTIMATE DECLINE'''. It was just three words toghether from three different emails. Why was ths STUFF'D? --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:16, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''a-digga-diggga-digga-DELETE!''' This is stupid. It's not why was this STUFF'd- why was it even put on the board in the first place. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:53, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Definitely Decline.''' -[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 30 Mar 2005
*I choose you, '''Declinachu!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:05, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seriously. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:15, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Seriously, seriously. -Walking Armless

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.
* '''Decline.''' Didn't consider this a "fun" fact at all... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. It was well observed, but as a 'second incidence' it isn't much fun. --[[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 13:37, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Computer over. Virus = Very Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:54, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Decline.''' Any fun fact that states "This is the n-th time that ... " should be deleted outright. Well ... assuming n is not 1, of course. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:31, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."
* '''Weak Decline.''' Felt this was a bit of a stretch, though I did wonder if it was a reference myself. Still, "Rosebud" is the last dying whisper of Citizen Kane, while Rose-face is anything BUT whispered. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:50, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Too much of a stretch, IMO. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:14, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Just because two words sound the same does not mean they are connected. He doesn't even say it in the way that rosebud is used in Citizen Kane. --[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Decline.''' Not even close. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:33, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.
*'''Decline.''' I don't think that they were purposefully referencing the Pizzaz Pizza oven. The two words are just spelled similarly. (Also, there was a restaurant where I live called "Pizza Pizzazz," but you don't see me putting that down as a fun fact) :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:02, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong decline.''' I don't think that this this really is a "fun fact." It's barely a fact. It's incidental at best. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 09:50, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''SUPER DECLINE'''. Why it was a fun fact probably has to with some people make stuff y'know, with words from bigger words. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:19, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Or, it could be... '''Pizza'''z, which I think is pretty obvious. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:47, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Just because it's already shown doesn't mean it's not a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:17, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon, ''' '' PLEASE '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''EXTREME DECLINE!!!''' This is a pathetic fun fact. That's all there is to it.--[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 13:54, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I have no problem with this one. Remove the last sentence, and you're good to go. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Unadulterated Decline''' Come on, it's like you're not even trying. -Walking Armless
*'''The Klein.''' It's just a title effect. Besides, this doesn't give us any new information or insights. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:09, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== You killed Pom-Pom! ====
When storng bad said he killed pom-pom it may be a reference to south park and them "killing Kenny"

*'''Decline''' Uh...no. "Storng" Bad was just trying to scare Marzipan with a crank call. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:36, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unmatchable Decline''' Spell right, blast ye! -Walking Armless
*'''Delcine.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' If he always pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"? Just saying... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Almost everyone is saying that this is common. But really - other than "pimecone" and "pamcake", when has Homestar EVER switched Ms and Ns? I can't think of even one other time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Accurate, but not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:38, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move?''' Perhaps this would be worth noting in Homestar's character page?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:56, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' What, nobody can answer my question? Then this fact is very likely TRUE! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:31, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' SB's makin' 'em up on the fly. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' The voting on this one stopped about a month ago tomstiff, it has been changed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:37, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I thought if a vote wasn't closed, then it was ... well ... open! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Woah. Isn't what brings this community together the laughter and enjoyment that homestar runner gives us? If you want to play the intellectual superiority game, why don't you go over to the MENSA wiki?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:01, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Are you talkin' to ''me''? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:10, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Sorry tomstiff, I just want to forget this one, but the fact HAS been changed already, so if you really hate this one, then STUFF the new version. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:38, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I don't hate it ... at least not yet ... JOKE! I didn't realize it had been "closed" until after I voted. My point is ... if it's closed then why is it still open? To paraphrase a vote much further up the page ''It ain't closed until The Eggman closes it.'' And with that, let me re-unofficially close what had been unofficially closed. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Lol''' Thanks for making me look like a fool, man by quoting me. Naw, seriously, I was just angry at myself for making such a dumb fun fact. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''D'oh!''' I had no idea I was quoting ''you''. Any fool-making was purely accidental! Let's get this thing closed before more hilarity ensues! Yoo hoo! The Eggman! Over here! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:04, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Too Late!''' The hilarity be ensuing already! I was just kidding when I said you made me look like a fool, though... '_' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 22:44, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''I'm here... and getting to it...''' I just did a huge number on the finished ones up through Best Thing the other night. I'll get from Rock Opera on in the next day or so - been busy with non-H*R stuff... (I know, I know, heaven forbid...) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 03:45, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

*'''DECLINE'''-- It's just weird. Unsettling.
**Whats unsettling about it?--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:03, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Decline'''-- I don't find this item to be necessary at all. If anything, it's the *only* time, because they try to do things different with the credits with each new toon. This is, at best, a running gag, and shouldn't be placed on this toon's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:15, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''¡Second!''' Just like how I try to type 'Declined' different every time. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 07:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' So? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It's just a joke. Might become interesting if they were to ''continue'' referring to themselves that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:43, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I would be surprised if it were not the first time they refered to themselves as "Brethren". [[User:Theving|Theving]]

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
****'''FOURTH'D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:34, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Fifth'D!''' It Sucks! TBC recycle stuff so their brains don't get screwed!
*'''Decline.''' Bubs is kicking a can. Is it ''the'' can that The Homestar Runner kicks in Kick The Can? Maybe. I can't really tell. The bit ''is'' reminiscent of Kick The Can, however. Rewrite and resubmit. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:16, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second.''' At best, this should be called a goof. However, people who enjoy reading goofs would probably scorn this level of pickiness (maybe. I don't care for what people call goofs here personally...)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:15, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
***I've seen "Goofs" around here a LOT worse than this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept!''' Good enough for me. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 03:53, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Pizzle the Nizzle ====
The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.

*'''Decline.''' Both the Johnny Mercer song and strongbad's line refer to evangelical preaching in general. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 08:41, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Evangelical preaching? Huh? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:51, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Actually, no. '''Decline.''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:18, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' I know I'm prolly in the minority here, but it's what ''I'' thought of when I heard the line for the first time. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:51, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

*'''Declined.''' I think this is purely co-incidental. I think TSB is pronouncing the word in an "old-timey" way (e.g. newspapper rather than newspaper in [[That a Ghost]]). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:44, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's also the Korean, spanish, italian, etc pronunciation of "radio." For whatever reason, the word radio has been kept as something similar to "rah-di-o" in most languages. Is it funny that americans say "cul-de-sac" almost like the french do?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:14, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondeth''' A coincident. It's meant to be old-timey, like "Four-and-twenty". (Which bears resemblance to, for example, Dutch.) [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' It may be co-incidental, but I didn't know that and I think it's interesting enought to keep. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:07, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise.''' Noteworthy, but it should be noted that this was most likely unintentional. -Walking Armless

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:59, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Terminally Confused''' Free Country USA was never a place, so trying to map out its probable location is redundant. -Walking Armless
*'''Accept''' I never knew that. I like it. --[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 15:57, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It's kind of a cool fact, regardless of whether it was done intentionally or not. --[[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*<s>'''Accept...almost''' It's probably true...I think. I live in New England, where the radio stations are W..., but when I took a trip to California, the radio stations were K..., but I need more proof that the Mississippi River determines it. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:46, 2 Mar 2005 (MST) </s>
*'''Accept!''' There's some border between K and W, according to the FCC. If if it was ZSBD, Free Country USA would not be in any plausible place in the States. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:31, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Here's a [http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm document] that explains K/W radio call letters. Note that there are exceptions to the general rule (e.g. WBAP in Dallas, KDKA in Pittsburgh). -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23:26, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Accept now''' Thanks tomstiff, thats just the proof i needed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' Heck, I *LIVE* in Pittsburgh, and I completely forgot about KDKA... Still, it's nice to see that explained. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Comment''' I wonder if WSBD is a play on Atlanta radio station WSB. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:36, 12 Mar 2005 (CST)
** Uh... if anything, it's just a joke on '''S'''trong '''B'''a'''D''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' I'm not sure if it's true because I didn't research it at all but it is interesting and not common knowlage --[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not from the USA, so I wouldn't know if it's true. If it is, then I '''Accept.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:26, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

*'''<s>Possible</s> Decline''' This might not be a fact at all, since the only positive reference I could find that listed a WSBD in Cleveland is [http://www.cisworldservices.org/newsarticles/news_wsbdradio1.html this page], which is likely a mistake by the author of the CIS webpage, as there is a [http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=wspd&x=0&y=0&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid= WSPD] radio station in Toledo, Ohio with a newsradio format. Could anyone (possibly from Ohio) positively confirm or deny this? <s>(Note: Fun fact not removed from page)</s> --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 09:01, 7 Mar 2005 (MST) A bit of fact-checking on the [http://www.fcc.gov/ FCC website] has not turned up any licensing information for the WSBD call-sign, which pretty much indicates that no station exists with those call letters. It's technically possible that a radio station WSBD may have existed at one time, but not anymore. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 10:32, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Seconding above. Might this reference be a play on Atlanta radio station WSB? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 23;40, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' It's definetely a play on Strong Bad. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[origins]]===
====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Comment''' Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]]

===[[funny]]===
====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.
*'''Decline''' Do I really need to say why? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Who cares if he never blinks? [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]]
***'''Third''' I don't think ANY character in H*R blinks! -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Comment''' Actually Homestar blinks, ''quite'' frequently, I might add. [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Okay, okay. MOST characters don't blink, unless I'm missing something giant here. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:54, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' If you're gonna put something about a character in a cartoon and not the cartoon itself, I strongly suggest putting it on [[The Poopsmith]] character page.

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''-some Guest
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Makes sense to me. -Walking Armless

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

*'''Decline.''' I've never seen ''Buck Privates'' but unless there's a scene with Lou under a Heavy Lourde type weight and Bud under a sack of potatoes this sure seems like a stretch to me -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2004
**'''Second''' Indeed. There are more cartoons/movies where that happens. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:33, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

*'''Decline.''' But wait. If the drink is actually called something else then it's *not* available. Da Bros are just making fun of Starbucks, not refering to a real drink. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this not the exact name of a Starbucks drink, the person who posted this fact also had the drink wrong; a Mochaccino is not the same as a Frappuccino or even a Mocha Frappuccino, and "double double" refers to the amount of espresso in the drink, not the size of the drink (so we don't know it's Venti).
**A "Double Double" refers to a coffie having 2 creams and 2 sugars. But still '''Decline'''.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 06:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Yes, if you're drinking regular coffee. A Mochaccino is an espresso-based drink. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 07:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Seriously, read what you just said... how can it be the same thing, if it's NOT the same thing? Yeesh. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I can't even follow the sentence. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline...''' They probably just took every coffee shop term that sounded good and blended them together. [[User:SP|SP]]

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.
*'''Decline.''' This seems like a real stretch. Sometimes an intercom is just an intercom. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:44, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' TBC [http://www.theinkhole.com/homestar2.htm watch SBTB]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:13, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' TBC may watch it. But I still think it's far fetched. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:40, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.
*'''Decline.''' Or it could just be a silly-slash-funny mis-spelling with no referrence to the real-world. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:30, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's most likley a play on the words "Super Group". --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' I've heard, seen and read Soopa used as Super before. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:00, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' You should have stopped at "stretch" and just hit the back button. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:49, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.
*'''Decline.''' This reference is in no way relevant to TGS or H*R. It's explained in the transcript that "Truk" is a misspelling of "truck" as a caption to the poorly-drawn truck on Tompkins shirt. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Third''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:37, 6 Apr 2005
*'''Dcln''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:50, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Dreamail doesn't have a back button either. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:15, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' I don't see any problem with two pages cross-referencing each other. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Accept.''' This is important enough to warrant an entry. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** 30 '''Second'''s before impact! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:58, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''The Cline.''' This has nothing to do with it. Putting salt on his leg was just a reference to "I'd rather gnaw my own leg off.". [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:40, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

'''VERDICT:''' After several months of voting, this item was Accepted. It has been added to the Trivia section of [[2 years]] and the discussion is archived on the [[talk:2 years]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:51, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

* '''Decline''' He could simply be there, or visiting. You don't have to belong to a country to visit it, or even to reside in it. (Jim Carrey wasnt amercan until recently but he lived there for years).--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*** Did now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' If that was the case, the sign would read "Population: Tire, Bundt Cake Pan, Coach Z, and Strong Sad." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:59, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
**Like, totally '''Second''', dude! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Although I think this fact is wrong, I just want to point out that the population on the tire isn't entire accurate. Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat aren't listed, and we all know they're in there. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:44, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

*'''Neutral''' I doubt its a reference to any those, but for some reason, I don't want to decline it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:03, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak decline - needs severe rewrite''' This is actually a combination of several entries from that page that should have been combined in a single fact, so I did. The trouble is, there are way too many references noted here. The "roomier than it looks" gag isn't anything new, and severe rewrite on this is needed in order for this to be acceptable. At the very least, the Oscar and TARDIS references need to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:53, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Alls I know is that Snoopy's house was huge on the inside. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 09:00, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to this... and a reference to that... and a reference to this other thing... and a reference to something else... make up your mind! I hate "facts" like this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:05, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline''' Nice thinking, but I think it gets used to much to be an actual reference to anything. The gag is also used in Eek! The cat (Sharky's house), and SpongeBob Squarepants (Patrick's house).
*'''Comment''' In the book, "The ultimate unnofficial guide to the mysteries of Harry Potter", they say in the fouth book chapter that it's a reference to the TARDIS in Dr. who when the tent really was a three room flt at the Quidditch World Cup, Or Moody's trunk in "Veritaserum"!
** How would THEY know what TBC were thinking? Was H*R even mentioned?! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:53, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** So? In any case, '''Patsy Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:52, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Accept''' I was about to decline this one until that last comment... I mean, if Harry Potter can make a Dr. Who reference, why not TBC? And if TBC can make a Dr. Who reference, why can't they make a reference to Peanuts, Oscar the Grouch, Spongebob, Stick Stickley, The Fresh Prince, Rocky III, and whoever else listed above has a roomy house.

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
**'''Comment.''' Actually you CAN see how far the Grabbo Arm goes off screen. just watch the .swf file. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:52, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.'''-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:13, 15 Jan 2005 (CST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.
*'''Decline.''' This particular item isn't really that 'fun', is it? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:41, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You stretched it, not that big of a deal. --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''FunFact=very yes.''' I like this fun fact a lot, and even remember it when it was among the other fun facts. I wonder why it was stuff'd. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 18:17, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' And Strong Bad's left boxing glove looks the same as his right boxing glove...

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
** What racerx is getting at, BTW, is that User:24.21.86.243 added a whole bunch of Fun Facts under one heading and Declined them all with one comment. Someone later came in and split them, putting User:IP's Decline in all of them (which is why all of the Fun Facts near this one have the same Decline comment, even where inappropriate). Apparently, racerx responded to all of them but didn't get his response split in quite the way he'd intended (he meant to decline two of the facts and accept the rest) - and I'm surprised I'm just now noticing. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:44, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

I went ahead and added this, combined with the existing not-as-fun fact about the 'anatomically incorrect' keyboard. After finding and watching the video, this is even stronger evidence, as MJ's t-shirt is incorrect in exactly the same way. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 22:55, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinio''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Since there is a staircase next to Homestr's room, either his room is on the second floor or he has a basement." That should take care of any confusion.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
*'''Comment''' It has been pointed out that his clock has no AM/PM indicator, and according to my reasoning, he could not have set it more than 12 hours in advance. When I consider this dubious fun fact (It's odd considering...) and the point that I made on the fun fact about Homestar's clock, Homestar could have changed his calendar when he woke up on December 25th, and set his clock to 10 PM and gone back to sleep, because he simply did not realize that the 25th was significant, nor did he realize... anything... about time. Sorry for the long-winded comment, but it makes sense to me.
**'''Comment on the comment.''' That just occurred to me as well - What does Homestar do at the end of the toon when Strong Bad reminds him there's only 7 minutes left? He runs around like a maniac because he "forgot to buy presents"... just like he does at the beginning of the toon. It's even possible that he went through the same thing earlier in the day and we just don't see it. Given the "12 hours in advance" limitation, unless Strong Bad broke into his house and messed with his clock sometime during the day, Homestar would have had to be up no earlier than 10 AM on the 25th. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:22, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Good eye! --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Comment.''' What I don't understand is why you know he started sleeping on the 23rd. -[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:40, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment:''' I don't think the Brothers Chaps know this. See [[crying]]. [[User:134.241.227.51|134.241.227.51]] 06:51, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''', or Fifth, whicever works. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik
*'''Decline''' There are people named ''State Troopers''. Sheesh, all of this rhyming stuff. Ok, Homestar Runner rhymes with Domepar Stunner. So it's a reference to that tv show? Come on, that kind of thing annoys me! [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.
*'''Accepterific''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:07, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''ACCEPT'D!''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 10:49, 16 Apr 2005 (EST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Der Klein''' Find out what the game is, and maybe this'll work. Until then, don't waste our time, especially if you only THINK it's a reference. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

*'''Decline''' I've got a real problem with this one. The e-mail could have just been corrupted or broken in transit, or, like 'fhqwhgads', it could have been someone just mashing on the keyboard. Also, since Compy 386 isn't actually a real computer, someone couldn't actually "crash" it by sending a virus to Strong Bad. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 16:20, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's probably just a nonsense email they recieved like the Fhqwhgads. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 16:45, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' As written anyway. Revise as "someone tried to crash TBC's computer by sending a virus to strongbad@homestarrunner.com." At least, I *think* that's what he meant! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Monkey D-Cline''' It's not safe to assume ANYthing, naive one. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:29, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declinification.''' I think TBC did get the E-mail. But I think they just made that virus up for the strong bad e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:11, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''Interesting''' Hmm... it could be posssible. I mean, thats less than 4000 emails a week, which isnt alot for popular websites. Is there anyway to confirm this? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:38, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
* '''What?''' Where did this come from? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:51, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Is it not the number of Viruses that Edgarware.exe found? --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 06:48, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
*** '''Decline anyway''' Unless it gets re-used, I don't see how that matters. I mean, it was just an arbitrarily large number. Are people looking for the significance of the number 1,685,421 (other than Mitch Overlord being that number caller in best thing?) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:22, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** '''Second''' -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:53, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''probably not''' TBC say they get more then 1,000 SBemails each day! So I don't think so. I could be true, though. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:15, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''on second thought...'''' It could be the number of e-mails TBC got since Strong Bad got his Compy. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
***'''Whoops-erson...''' Thats what I ment it to be... I'l change it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:32, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' First of all, the so-called fact is too conversational. Second, it's 100% speculation. I'll bet you the number is ''not'' random, but we have no proof of anything. It could just as easily be the license plate number of Mike's first car. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:19, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' It's called a random number! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:50, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.
*'''Decline''' There, you just said it yourself. Shortly ''>>'''AFTER'''<<'' the release of this e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.
*'''Decline.''' It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says. And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''No no no.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.
*'''Decline.''' Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Weak Accept.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept, Second''' I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
*<strike>'''Actual Decline.'''</strike> All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! <strike>I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds.</strike> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I'd agree if just ''one'' CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they ''all'' have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh*''' Oh, great. Now ''I'm'' undecided, too. What's the real issue here? Is the shape there? Yes. Is it pretty well-formed? Yes. Did TBC put it there intentionally? I say no, but admittedly that's just a gut feeling. And you never know with those guys. So, as a straight "didja' notice?" fact, I'm persuaded to change my vote to '''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:06, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Definite Accept''' Also, the reason they All have the spot is that the Cheat Commandos are carbon copies of one image(with accessories, facial hair, etc.). Plus, Mickey's head would be in color; The Mickey logo, however, is the solid black tri-circle seen on the CC's. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' I mean, ''I'' think it's interesting... --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:41, 13 Apr 2005
*'''<strike>Kevin 'Cline''' It's just a dot. It may be in that shape, but it's definitely unintentional. I mean, do you ever intentionally draw your dots in the shape of Mickey Mouse heads?</strike> Eh. I'm neutralizing. And gasp at the below comment. (EDIT) Ouch. Just struck out everything. Damn slash. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Weak Decline.''' Google search for Hidden Mickeys if you're interested in the time-honored tradition for Disney artists to hide Mickey heads in everything they can get their hands on. That being said, he Mickey head I see on the Commandos is fairly deformed. The ears are too small and too close together, for instance. Since this probably wouldn't pass muster for a Hidden Mickey, I'm giving a pass on this fact. (and for SP, yes I do draw my dots in the shape of Mickey heads!) <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 00:42, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[car]] ===
==== "You ever see me in a car? No!" ====
Another subtle fun fact: At the end of the email, Strong Bad says, "You ever see me in a car? No!" Interestingly, he is seen in the Gremlin just a few emails later, in the Dangeresque 3 email.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Declined. Moved to [[talk:car]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:24, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===
==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

'''VERDICT''' - A revised version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
==== Meh ====
"meh" is one of Strong Sad's emotions, and it also is frequently said by The Cheat.

'''VERDICT''' - After several weeks of voting, this item was unanimously Declined. Moved to [[talk:Strong Sad's Lament]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:17, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

*'''Decline.''' If that was true, Strong Bad would more likely write "HJLWHOUISNASNKL?A STUPID!! GUY I AM A STUPID GUY!! HA HA HA!!!!GUIS kljIUS SJ". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:16, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*That was one incident! You can't say that Strong Bad would write like that all the time. And you can't honestly say that sounds like Strong Sad. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:39, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*<s>'''Revise, Accept''' Too much speculation as written, but I must admit that it DOES look a bit more like SB's handiwork than SS's. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)</s>
*'''Decline''' I'm not seeing Strong Bad listening to a live David Bowie track... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:36, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**And doubt Strong Bad could draw that good. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:42, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** We ARE talking about the same Strong Bad, right...?
*You're using his art and musical tastes as an argument? Strong Bad's drawings of Trogdor during the theme is just as good as Saddy Dumpington, and Strong Sad would not call himself Dump*, let alone call anyone a hippie. And Strong Bad's character in no way reflects his music choices. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:15, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**What makes you think the drawings at the end of [[dragon]] are Strong Bad's? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***What makes you think the Saddy Dumpington drawing is Strong Sad's? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:54, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**My point is, TBC would never make a joke that subtle. For example, [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] didn't end without proofing who really judged the pumpkins. This "fact" is almost silly as ye old [http://old.hrwiki.org/index.php?page=MarzipansAnsweringMachine%2FVersion+10.2%2FComments Homestar prank call debate]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:35, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** So you're saying it DOES look like the kind of thing Strong Sad would write, what with all the typical Strong Bad comments? ("Dumpington", "freaking", "hippie", etc.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:35, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Yes/Maybe, I highly doubt Strong Bad would praise Francis Scott Key. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:10, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Oh, and thanks to whoever added "Strong Bad's Lament to this section. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:16, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Vote change!''' Yup, I'm changing my vote. To a simple '''Accept'''. I didn't notice that his password really WAS given out on the page! I'm still pretty confident that the writing style and choice of words look more like SB than SS. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:00, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' [[User: Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]
*'''Accept''' Like Jay said above, I also don't think Strong Sad would use the words "freaking" and "hippie". I also don't think he "rocks out", even orchestrally, but that's just my opinion. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Secondinate!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 16:59, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*Not the first. I know, [[homsar]], [[homsar]]. But his message is longer than "Yeah, what is it Strong Bad?". Maybe with some rewording? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline, or severe rewrite.''' Given the fact that this could become false in the future, as well as the item's subjective opinion, this one shouldn't be included. And what about "Hey Reggie, is that rhinocerous around?" That's a legible sentence - in fact, everything he says is legible. It just doesn't make any sense. Possibly the word you're looking for is "intelligible" or something along the lines of "Homsar's message makes the most sense out of anything he has ever said." But again, you're dealing with the "could be become false later" issue. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:15, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:26, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept'''. Very noteworthy. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 02:00, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Opinion ("the most...ever") I don't think a rewrite would solve much. --[[User:The Paper|THE PAPER]] 16:42, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Severe Decline with a Complete Rewrite''' Is it noteworthy? Yes ... yes it is. Is it the most legible thing he's ever said? Dunno, I've never seen the Haddi-man's handwriting. It may be the most intelligible thing he's ever said ... to date. That's what makes this a bad fact: Homsar could become the most erudite cast member tomorrow. To quote from [http://www.ibras.dk/montypython/episode23.htm#3 Scott of the Sahara]...Rewrite! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:59, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I'm assuming this message was made in response to [[homsar]] to bring Homsar back since he was supposedly "killed". Also, since he was relatively new as a character, he wasn't as of yet uniquely nonsensical, as he is now. I'm believin' that's the reason this is the most legible thing he has ever written...I mean, said. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 02:02, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Yes, I meant intelligable, not legible. I forgot the word. I meant it makes sense the most. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:55, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

==Games==

===[[Peasant's_Quest]]===

====Two names?====
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.
*'''Fhqwdlcinds''' So??? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So, rather dashing's real name name is Julio. Good catch! Just '''revise''' it so that its a little more obvious. Try:
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in
Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.
--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Me Declino Infinito.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:09, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''REWRITE'D!''' I was the one who wrote the thing anyway, so I rewrote it with -erson-san's suggestion. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:09, 14 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline the new one too''' It's still useless, and perhaps now moreso - are we next going to say that his name is Misspeller Jones? (Type "get plague" near the lantern.) It's a joke. Just go with it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' But, it might NOT be. Geez, why does everyone always decline everything around here? --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 10:45, 16 Apr 2005
*** Oh, wait, what was that word? "Might"? As in, you're not certain? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:08, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But the fact that Rather Dashing is saying "Me llamo Julio" as a conversation starter to the Kerrek would be a different case. Do you ever say "Hello my name is..." and mention an incorrect name? And about the "Misspeller Jones", is it not common for people to make up nicknames for people about their different characteristics? Like you call a clumbsy person "Butterfingers" even though his real name is Bob, or a bad typist "Misspeller Jones" even though his real name is Julio? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:34, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second and a comment'''. Hey, the Jump-with-B, Shoot-with-A scheme worked for Metroid Prime, why not MMAC? :P Hehe, oh well. :) -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:28, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' This is waaay too big of a stretch. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:26, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline w/Comment''' I've been playing MMAC on the Gamecube recently. The button layout is not that convoluted at all - once you get used to it, it's second-nature. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I didn't think that MMAC or Stinkoman 20X6's control schemes were "poor". Sorry you got frustrated, but looking here, the majority didn't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:01, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' As a video game lover, I've gotta say that I am pretty used to using the right-most button to jump and the left-most button to fire. Just water this fact down a bit. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Declorne''' Uh... so? [[User:SP|SP]]

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.
*'''Decline'''. The display of levels within Ninja Gaiden used a dash rather than a period and sub-level notation has been used in a number of different games. Had each level been called an "Act" as in Ninja Gaiden, you'd be onto something. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:38, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Sub-level notation was used as early as Super Mario 1... And even with "Act" it still wouldn't have just been Ninja Gaiden... Sonic had that too. -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:30, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*Uh, no it's not. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:27, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' maybe 20x6 is 2006... ever thought of that, smart guy? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:32, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Assumption! 20X6 can be anything from 2006-2096, and I hardly think gas will run out before next year. Though the 20X6 world looks much more futuristic, it's not proven that gas runs out in the Homestar Universe, like Ogog said. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:28, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' 20x6 could also be 20106. Maybe by that time more oil will be found.
***'''Response.''' 20x6 is NOT 20106. I've always found the "x" to mean that it's a wildcard, meaning it could be 2006, 2016, 2026, etc. - as in [[time capsule]], it's highly unlikely that a Number One Jam cassette or a gross old wig in a time capsule wouldn't have decomposed in 18,000 years. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
****Actually, its very likely since plastic, and many fabrics dont decompose at all. The magnetic tape in the casette might have decomposed but that wouldnt have mattered because Stinkoman ate the casette, not played it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:40, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But doesnt a Capital X mean the greek number for 10, and a miniscule x stand for a variable? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:48, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****A capital X signifies a ''Roman'' numeral 10. And variables are ''usually'' lowercase, but if you don't have a character set with upper- and lowercase letters (like most old video games), then you just have to make do with what you got. (See also [[Rabbit Algebra]], which seems to mix the two.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Does the author of this FF purport to have insider knowledge of TBC's ''fictitious'' world? [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:10, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. '''All Your Second Are Belong To Us''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]
*'''Decline''' I'd agree with you, but there's proof that says otherwise.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:11, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
** The point to this fact is that people have attempted to add it to MANY emails under MANY circumstances (and some incorrectly labelled it "the first" instead of "one of the few".) Notice that this is under "Cross-Toon Facts". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)