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Homsarian79: /**/Merge with Lack of Visible Body Parts?

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The [[The King of Town|King of Town]] also doesn't appear to have any visible arms (nor does the Prince of Town in [[flashback]]), but no direct reference is made to this.

== He just gave me the bird! ==

:''Homestar flips Strong Bad off, and Strong Bad reacts as if he can see it.''

I think the joke in [[the bird]] was that Homestar "flips off" Strong Bad by responding "right back at you" to Strong Bad's Single Deuce, as if ''he didn't even need to'' flip a hand. Understand? --[[User:Sam Goldfish|Sam Goldfish]] 22:31, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:...Actually, you're right, I think. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Yeah, I was about to make that very same comment before I saw I was beaten to it. If not totally removed, I think the entry should be heavily reworded. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:42, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::Nah, it's supposed to be taken straightforward; Homestar ''really'' flips him the bird. If somebody merely ''told me'' they were flipping me off, I don't think I would take it as badly as Strong Bad does. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:08, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I had always seen it as a real, invisible one rather than "it's the thought that counts." I'm not arguing definitely against that. ''But'' a little bit of humor in the whole email comes from the fact that ''none'' of the flip-offs are visible, since even the characters with visible hands lack independent finger movement. Strong Bad's and Pom Pom's "deuces" are mere hand movements, yet all the characters seem to be perceiving the gesture. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:48, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::::All we know for certain is that Homestar says "right back atcha," which (since it's Homestar) probably means that he either didn't see or didn't understand the gesture. (I mean two different things by that: "didn't see" would be due to the boxing gloves; "didn't understand" would be due to him being Homestar.) We do not know that Homestar really made any "hand gestures" at all, invisible hands or no; he probably just thought Strong Bad was waving, hence the "right back atcha." Since the joke works whether Homestar is actually making an invisible hand gesture or not, time to apply Occham's (sp?) Razor. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:01, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::::PS. Abdi makes a good point. The only main characters who could make a visible "bird" would be Strong Mad, Strong Sad, and The Poopsmith, none of whom appeared in that email.
::::Exactly! Homestar thought Strong Bad was waving! I get it now! As for Strong Bad taking it so bad, I think that's part of the joke: He can dish it out, but he can't take it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:33, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::Though note that [[Strong Mad]] would be the only one who could do it properly, as he has five fingers, while [[Strong Sad]] and [[The Poopsmith]] have four.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:55, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::Dot com is right: It is clear that Homestar's gesture or lack thereof was taken by Strong Bad as an actual one-fingered salute. We should take it just as seriously as we take Strong Bad and Pom Pom's deuces. Yes, he may have thought Strong Bad was just "waving", but if he did, it appears that he "waved" back, and therefore, for all practical purposes, Homestar did in fact flip Strong Bad off. I hope that wasn't ridiculouly confusing; I feel like I'm rambling. If it doesn't make sense, let me know; I'll try to clarify. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 07:07, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::The quotation marks on waving seem to convey it just right. Couldn't have said it better myself (and I tried to above). {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 18:24, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

I really think you guys are overanalyzing this. The joke was that you can't see either Strong Bad or Pom Pom's gestures - just the suggestion of them given the context. The joke is continued when Strong Bad "flips off" Homestar, and Homestar just reflects it right back. Given the lack of visible evidence, but also given Strong Bad's responses to both Pom Pom ("Pom Pom prefers the single deuce") and Homestar ("He just gave me the bird!"), I think it's safe to assume that the gesture (visible only to Strong Bad) was repeated both times. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 19:47, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:I've always perceived this as exactly how the current wording explains it. Strong Bad flips Homestar off, so Homestar responds by flipping Strong Bad off, and Strong Bad reacts as if he can see it. It doesn't need any more explanation than that. In fact, it's funny precisely because it's ambiguous. Let's not squeeze the poop out of the fly here. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 20:04, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::I'm willing to believe that Homestar doesn't actually understand the gesture - he's pretty dim. Say you're from another country, and you've never seen or heard of the middle-finger gesture before. Someone does it to you, and you might interpret it as a friendly gesture and do it right back to them. Of course, the first person might then be offended by it. Since Homestar generally tends to have memory lapses and is otherwise just a dim-witted fellow to begin with, I think it's perfectly reasonable to interpret this as him seeing the flip-off and just not understanding it. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 20:10, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::As my mother always said: It's the thought that counts. It doesn't metter if they actualy did it or not. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 20:11, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:::I think the joke here is the ambiguity. Is Homestar wittily flashing the bird back, or does he not realize the back of String Bad's boxing glove is actually the finger, making his response a wave? That's what puts the hummor in the situation. I don't think we can take SB's reply as evidence to support either side. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 20:14, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::::Hence the original statement: Strong Bad reacts as though he can see (the gesture). - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 20:19, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::::Proposed Revision: ''"When Strong Bad flips off Homestar, Homestar apparently returns the gesture, causing Strong Bad's feelings to be hurt."'' - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 20:21, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::Meh, the feelings hurt part is not that relevant. The key is that Strong Bad says, "He just gave me the bird," something someone wouldn't be expected to say if they hadn't actually been flipped off. This whole page is based on trying to interpret something that doesn't make sense in the real world. Its purpose is to highlight the ambiguity where we find it. I think there's enough support for including the instance found in [[the bird]] to put it back on the page, but I suggest my own revision: ''Strong Bad flips Homestar off, and after Homestar replies "Right back atcha," Strong Bad exclaims, "He just gave me the bird!"'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:53, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::Sounds good to me. That's nice and unambiguous. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 20:57, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::Yes, very good. It's got no speculation. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

That sounds re-ZON-able. (Or however you spell that.) [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 23:03, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

== Pic? ==

Which do you think we should use for this article's picture? I'm for Homestar's "arms" from [[fingers]].-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:EDIT: Lunar Jesters uploaded[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/7/7f/Homestar%27s_Arms.PNG]. I like it.{{User:Kookykman/sig}}

== Page Title ==
Invisible Arms? I don't think that Homestar, Marzi & KOT have arms at all. I think it's some kind of force field or something. I mean, the fact about time capsule (Homestar holding three things at once) was already declined on STUFF because the majority of people here think it's not clear that Homestar has arms as such. Can we get a better name for this page? And perhaps remove that dubious fact? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 23:06, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:How about "Ambiguious Arms" or simply "Arms"? {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I don't like just "arms" because this page is actually about ''lack of'' arms. Say, how about "Lack of Arms" ;) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 23:08, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::"Lack of Arms" has the same problem that "Invisible Arms" has. Namely, it assumes as fact one of the possible explanations for the situation. (I admit I chose "Invisible Arms" because that's the camp I'm in. Is there something (besides just "Arms") that is more neutral?) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:10, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Well, I did propose Ambiguous Arms earlier... - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::::"Ambiguous Arms" is a step in the right direction, although something about it (maybe the alliteration?) doesn't sound quite right to me. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:14, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::Yes, the alliteration kind of threw me off, too. *looks up synonyms* "ambiguous, cryptic, dark, darkling, deep, enigmatic (also enigmatical), equivocal, inscrutable, murky, mysterious, mystic, nebulous, occult." Not a good list. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::::::How about "Vague"? - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 23:19, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::What about "Extremities"? Homestar uses that term in the DVD commentary in [[time capsule]]. :) - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 23:18, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::That has the same problem as just "Arms", though. :P - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::::::Yeah, "Extremities" doesn't really address the adjective problem. How about "Missing or Invisible Arms"? "The Arm Situation"? "No Visible Arms"? "How the Crap Do They Pick Stuff Up"? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:21, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::::"Missing or Invisible Arms" does adress both sides of the problem. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::::::"Vague Extremities", then. :) - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 23:22, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
I say "Arms?"—with the question mark. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:23, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:Looking at my most recent list, I like "No Visible Arms." It gets the point across, it's easy to remember, and it works for both completely missing arms and arms that are just invisible. Plus, it can be worked into a fun fact: "This is another reference to Homestar's having [[Lack of Visible Arms|no visible arms]]." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:25, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'm for "No Visible Arms". {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::Yeah, that's a good solution to all sides. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:30, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::::I'm going to move it in about 5 minutes if there's no objections. {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::::Well, now let's give everyone a chance to weigh in. Just to be thorough, here are the choices so far:
:::::*This is another reference to Homestar's [[Lack of Visible Arms|missing or invisible arms]].
:::::*This is another reference to Homestar's [[Lack of Visible Arms|ambiguous arms]In].
:::::*This is another reference to the [[Lack of Visible Arms|arm situation]].
:::::*[[Lack of Visible Arms|How the crap do they pick stuff up?]] (just kidding).
:::::*This is another reference to Homestar's having [[Lack of Visible Arms|no visible arms]].
:::::— [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::::::Alright, I'll wait. Though, looking at that list, it looks pretty obvious. :) - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

::::::I'll go along with '''no visible arms'''. It seems the best of both worlds. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::It's a bit awkward, but I'd go with "No Visible Arms." How about "Lack of Visible Arms"? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 23:57, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::::The point of "no visible arms" is that it will be linked easily from fun facts pages (see the list above) - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::::::::"This is another reference to Homestar's [[Lack of Visible Arms|lack of visible arms]]." It sounds better, see? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 00:00, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::::::You're right. "Lack of Visible Arms" does sound better. We're going to need a clear agreement before we move it. Any way we could have a quick STUFF-style vote, or should we just move it now? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

::::::::::I emphatically agree that a negative statement about visible arms is the way to go (it makes no statement about invisible or none), and I enthusiastically agree with H. Coder that "Homestar's lack" is preferable to "Homestar's having." That gerund gamme the gerbblies. (Not to be confused with the gerbilys.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:26, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::::I'd say '''lack of visible arms''' is good too. As long as it finally gets a name everyone can agree on, yeah? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::::::::Done. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:46, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I think it should be called "[[You don't have arms]]", which is a line from [[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]]. --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 20:35, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar's perception ==
Note that just because clearly Strong Bad and Strong Mad are of the opinion he doesn't have arms doesn't prove it for sure; that's ''their'' opinion. Homestar seems to think he does. This could be Homestar being delusional, or one could argue that he ought to know best. Seems to me this is similar to the pants issue—he maintains he's wearing pants although others disagree. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:30, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== Sarcasm? ==

When Strong Bad notes that Marzipan has "really nice hands" in the Yellow Dello commentary, I think it's possible that he was being sarcastic. His tone (notice his emphasis on the word "hands"), combined with the fact that he seems to have a pretty good handle on just who has arms in Free Country U.S.A, indicates that he may have been making a joke. Of course, that doesn't mean Homestar's agreement wasn't completely earnest... [[User:Rocketlex|Rocketlex]] 00:13, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:No, I'm pretty sure it was TBC who were making the joke. It's a sort of dramatic irony- the audience knows that Marzipan has no arms, but for the moment the characters don't seem to. It wouldn't be funny if Strong Bad was referring to some invisible hands that were "really nice".[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 23:42, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

== Another character with no visible arms ==

[[The Wheelchair]] is seen lifting the lid to his pot of burled holiday cabbage in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]]. Any significance? - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 21:51, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
:Sure, add it on. He has definitely got no arms. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::Done. Added a note that he actually DOES have visible arms, but they don't move. (You can see the arms, but they obviously aren't designed to pick things up. :)) - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 22:18, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Good call on adding the wheelchair. But I have to disagree, he does not have arms. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:57, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Uh, he means the wheels. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 23:02, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::I meant the wheels? Actually, I ''was'' talking about the arms (the parts that you'd rest your arms on if you were sitting in a wheelchair. I had forgotten that The Wheelchair's arms (in this case) serve as his mouth. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 23:05, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::Nevermind. I didn't do any fact checking. I am probably just going crazy...again. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 23:28, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Like Kieferskunk said, the arms of the wheelchair (small w) are actually part of his mouth when he speaks. The arms of the Wheelchair (big w) are non-existent/invisible. The ''object'' has arms like any other wheelchair, but they're not the same as the arms of the ''character'' Wheelchair. And because the object's arms are part of the character's mouth, you gotta say that the character is a good example of an armless/invisible armed character. - [[User:Tbone762|Tbone762]] 13:34, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

== Not quite so visible ==

Be it in another page or this page, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Fall_Float_Parade&diff=206146&oldid=206084 this] might be a good idea! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:51, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:Hey, we added the bit about Strong Bad "flicking" Strong Sad's "ears" to the Type-With-Boxing-Gloves page... I see nothing wrong with this. And the coach must have some sort of mouth, as we've seen him blow a whistle AND eat... But it might just be an invisible one. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== No telekinetic abilities. Just arms. ==

This is my opinion on it, taken from the Homestar talk page:

If you want something close to proof, look at [[the bird]]. But really, you're just analyzing it too hard. Look at his eyes on the picture in the upper left. They're clearly on the front of his head, with him facing diagonally. Notice that you can see the underside of the hat? Notice the mouth is seen from a diagonal angle? It's like an Egyptian painting. Yes, the puppet has the eyes on the side, but can't you tell that's just to make it work in real life? It's a cartoon, it's like Egyptian paintings, it doesn't have to be exactly like that in real life. There is no real life, in fact, so reality is simply what the creators intended. How can he flip Strong Bad the bird with telepathic abilities? It's like Pom-Pom's voice, they can understand it but we can't. The arms exist but we can't see them. His eyes are just eyes. </rant> [[User:Uh...Cwapface|Uh...Cwapface]] 03:44, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Ummm..I totally forgot what I wrote on the other page so I'm just gonna wing it- It's just one of those many questions everyone has for TBC, but they have no answer for. Like "How come Marzipan has no legs" or "Why does Bubs' mouth not move when he talks or just barely does"? It's one of those things the world may never know.--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 00:53, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

* If [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] had arms, there would be holes in his shirt/skirt for them to come out of. I think this decisively shows that he must be telekinetic.

*How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 23:10, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

*To add to that (still anonymous diffrent poster) in the same E-mail Strong Bad slaps the scoisors out of Marzipan's hands, or the lack thereof. This implys that people with arms can interact with those without, giving play to the "invisble arms" argument.

*Homestar can manipulate more than two items telekenetically, which he could not do if he had invisible arms. I would second the significance of the lack of holes in Homestar's "red skirt", and I would also say that from watching Homestar (and the others) manipulate objects, it just looks more like they are levitating them than using invisible appendages. This no-armed whitey's powers of levitation may explain the hilarious blinking about of [[long pants]]: when upset so badly, his psychic powers blink him about. None of the references to the characters' hands or arms would be ironic or funny if we the audience were not supposed to believe that they had none. In the words of Strong Mad, "You don't have aaa-" [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 23:51, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I think that the Brothers Chaps may have finally answered the arms vs. telekinesis question with the recent Strong Bad E-mail lady fan. Since Homestar's workout clothes include a leotard/onesie thing, the shoulder straps would fall if he didn't have *something* holding them up. --[[User:Zhaleskra|Zhaleskra]]

:This type of logic doesn't hold up. If you allow "His straps don't fall, so he must have arms", then you also have to admit that the following deductions are true: "He can carry stuff, so he must have arms" and "You can't see any arms, so he can't have arms". They can't all be true at the same time.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:02, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

::I'm sorry you feel that way and I feel your analysis suffers from false causality. You set up a straw man only so you could knock it down. --[[User:Zhaleskra|Zhaleskra]]

:::If Marzipan has no arms how did her slap leave a handprint on Homestar? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:59, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Maybe it's a cartoon and you probably shouldn't worry about it. [[User:70.44.146.95|70.44.146.95]] 02:57, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
:That's the most smartest thing I've heard all day. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:34, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

== They're not the only ones... ==

I happen to know, and I would really appreciate if no one asked me why I know, that the characters from [[Wikipedia:VeggieTales|VeggieTales]] also don't have arms, but can pick stuff up. Who came first, anyways?--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 23:41, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
:VeggieTales came first. [[User:PurpleKoopa|PurpleKoopa]] 21:58, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
::There's nothing wrong with liking VeggieTales, Jnelson09. They rock. One of my favorite jokes is in the one about Jericho where someone is giving a speech and everyone applauds. One of the characters leans to another and says, "''How'' are we clapping??" Good stuff. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:57, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:::It's not that I ''like'' VeggieTales (honestly, I think they're weird, no offense), it's just that I saw it a few times, and the first time I saw Homestar in [[Experimental Film]], it just reminded me of that.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 23:14, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
::::I like VeggieTales! :) The Newgrounds Clock Crew are another flash cartoon series with characters who don't have arms but still pick stuff up. It's not an original concept at all. --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 20:37, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I like to think of VeggieTales as "Homestar with morals" (which means I like it) since in addition to the lack of visible arms, neither of them talk down to audiences, and both shows go for sublte humor, obscure references, and breaking the fourth wall. I just realized quite a few VeggieTale videos also involve fan mail, but I don't know if anyone really writes to them. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 01:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== Something Worth Knowing ==

There's an article on Homestar's discussion page about the "no arms" mystery, but it discusses the reasoning behind the lack of arms. Anybody care to add to it?

== The Wheelchair ==

The Wheelchair does 'technically' have arms(handles). And even if not so, this isn't a character that should actually be designed to have arms. Shouldn't the title of that section be labeled differently, instead of just listing what abscure characters don't have arms? If your intention is that, then why not add "The Huuuuuudge" and other mentioned characters without libs? {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 22:35, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
:I think the main point of including the Wheelchair is that it has been seen manipulating an object if it had arms--or, rather, invisible ones. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::That's it exactly. The Wheelchair opened a pot of burled cabbage with invisible arms. This page isn't discussing the armrests, but actual manipulative arms we cannot see but have seen evidence of. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:44, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
::It might be worth having a closer look at some of the characters on this page: I'm not sure all of them have ever been seen moving objects as though they had invisible arms. It seems to me this page shouuld ''only'' feature those characters who have done so, not just any character with no visible arms. I'll check up on this when I have more time. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:43, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
:::A list and a check if there is a verified example of proof there are arms that are not invisible, and not just no arms:

*{{done}}Homestar Runner
*{{done}}Marzipan
*{{done}}The King of Town
*{{done}}Homsar ([[Homestar Presents: Presents]] - using paintbrush as bell)
*{{done}}The Yodeling Man (he holds the horn somehow)
*{{done}}The Knight (bass drum mallets in [[Fall Float Parade]]
*{{done}}The Little Chef Guy
*{{todo}}The Prince of Town
*{{done}}The Goblin (unzips costume in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]])
*{{todo}}The Sad Kids
*{{done}}The Homestar Runner (parsnip soup)
*{{done}}Old-Timey Marzipan
*{{done}}1-Up (puuding)
*{{done}}The Wheelchair (burled cabbage)
*{{todo}}Unnamed Girl
*{{todo}}Homeschool Winner
*{{todo}}The Unguraits

:::Add checks and confirmations as you find them. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:54, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
::::The chef guy seems to be holding a knife somehow, but he doesn't move it at all. The others are all unconfirmed, as far as I know. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Shouldn't we be able to assume that The Prince of Town has invisible arms, as he is the storybook counterpart to The King of Town? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:06, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::Wasn't Homsar holding a paintbrush in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]? I think that would count... {{User:Saturn/sig}} 23:39, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::He was also holding a magic wand and dropped a bunch of confetti in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]. Good call. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:44, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::'''(Edit Conflict)''' I'd also suggest that any character who looks human or vaguely human (The Sad Kids, Unnamed Girl, etc) should also be considered as having invisible arms if they're not actually shown. If you choose to accept that, then this leave The Goblin, Homeschool Winner and the Unguraits. And you can probably assume that Homsar and Homeschool Winner have the same or similar qualities to Homestar Runner, since they are similar creatures. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:41, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
*Prince Of Town: hey, maybe if they aren't arms but are telekinesis, he hadn't yet developed the power at that point. Add to that the PoT is apocryphal, and I see no reason to assume he has arms.
*The Goblin, The Unguraits: possibly no arms. Probably, even, considering we don't know their physiology. By that logic we add Da Huuudge and other such nonsense.
*The Sad Kids, Unnamed Girl, Homeschool: while we might deduce by analogy that they must have arms, there remains no proof, and therefore we don't actually know for sure.
I think The Goblin and The Unguraits should be removed, and the others debated. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:08, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
:How about if we put them in a separate section? "Debatable/Unproven Characters" or something like that? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 03:45, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
::That sounds like a good idea. I could see removing the Goblin and the Unguraits (especially the Unguraits), but I think there's enough to assume that the prince, the kids, the girl, and Homeschool meet the criteria for this page, even without explicit proof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:01, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
:::If [[:Image:goblin arms fangs.PNG|The Goblin was gonna have arms]], that means he doesn't have now. I say confirmed. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 07:19, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
::::I don't see how that picture of the Goblin confirms that he has no arms at all. If anything, it confirms for me that he has invisible arms. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:40, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

I went ahead and moved all the questionables to a new subsection: "Debatable Characters". Is that good enough? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:09, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

If the Goblin doesn't have invisible arms or telekenesis, how does he properly disguise himself as Strong Bad in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:43, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

:The same way [[Homsar]] can hang upside down and still keep his hat on. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 07:56, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::I don't understand what you mean. The Strong Bad costume moved its arms and opened its own zipper, so the Goblin had to have been manipulating it somehow... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:59, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:::How about this theory: It's just is. Trying to found out how he did that is like trying to find out how Strong Bad types with boxing gloves on. They just do. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:24, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Then that makes this entire debate (and article) moot. How does Homestar pick stuff up? He just does. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:25, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::Jay's point on The Goblin is valid, he should be moved out of Debatable Characters. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:19, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::Updated the item upstairs, too. The Goblin is confirmed. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:14, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

:(Preserved from top of page, by Anonymous Contributor)
:'''Hey Wait a moment...'''
:Didn't the goblin unzip that costume?

== Invisible Hands Only theorem ==

I consider [[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]] canon, so Homestar (and presumably the rest of the cast) really doesn't have arms, invisible or otherwise. However, Marzipan clearly have hands, so this is how I think things work:

Each armless character has two invisible hands, which are manipulated psychokinetically. These hands are the only things that can be so manipulated. [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 06:46, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Only, Homestar has been seen manipulating at least three things before. In [[time capsule]], for example, he was seen holding the gross old wig, the box it came in, and the lid to the box all at once. - [[User: Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

Homestar definately just has hands, no arms. Anyone notice that almost none of Homestar's shirts have any sleeves for an "arm" to go through? - [[User: ThomasO|ThomasO]]

:I think that's part of the joke. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:37, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::Either that or his deodorant leaves stains the exact color of his s(h/k)irts. --[[User:Zhaleskra|Zhaleskra]]

== Flat Face Guy ==

Just for the records: Strong Bad could still have a nose, even if his face is flat (or flattened by the mask). We won't know if he really has a nose or not until he takes his mask off (or, in the words of one of my favourite comedians, "Mask? What mask?"). Anyway, most other characters don't have noses, so I'm happy with how it's currently phrased.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:10, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
:TBC have stated that they think the mask ''is'' his face. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:26, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
::[[some kinda robot|Example]]--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 03:32, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
::OK, this: [[UMFM Interview - 20 May 2003|"It’s not like he’s actually got a face under that mask, that’s basically his head."]] convinced me. But now I'm scared ;-) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:46, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad's fingers ==

While it was mentioned above that the "wrestling mask" seems to be Strong Bad's face, what about the fact that the "boxing gloves" are his hands? Does anybody else think there should be a section on this page for gags about Strong Bad having no fingers, or might that be better as a subsection of [[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?]] It seems like these are closely related topics, although certainly the boxing gloves thing needs its own page, as it is a much more major phenomenon overall.

==Wagon Fulla Pancakes==

It doesn't count because it's more of a prop. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 22:43, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
:I replaced it in the article because [[Wagon Fulla Pancakes|it's treated as a character]]. Yep, it's strange. :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
::Has it ever been shown using anything? If not, it should be moved to the other gallery. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 15:55, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
:::No, I don't think it has. The wine glass was wedged between pancakes, and it never lifted the weight, just had the handle fall on it. It hasn't manipulated anything. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Well, it somehow beat Homestar... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:40, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
:::::In [[montage]], Wagon is seen carrying a briefcase, it hovers beside the wagon (closer to the screen). - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 02:16, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::You're absolutely right — good find. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:36, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Coincidentally, I noted it on the [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Lack_of_Visible_Arms&diff=357831&oldid=357143 edit history] when I first put Wagon on the list. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 15:06, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

== Coach Z's mouth ==

Doesn't Coach Z blow a whistle twice in A Jorb Well Done despite having no visible mouth? [[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 19:18, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
:Yup. His cheeks even puff up. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::So shouldn't it be added? [[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 17:23, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

== sketchy ==

I see the pic of an earlier sketbook drawing where homestar has arms and now this week's sketch has an arm reference. Should this appear on the artice? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:12, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

== Made from the best suff ==

What about Marshie? Does he qualify. I can't remember him manipulating anything and marshmallow don't have arms but since that wagon is here and the geddup noise, I thought I'd ask. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:25, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
:Marshie waves a cane around in the email [[retirement]] when he says "I'm a song and dance man!". I'm thinking that he qualifies. {{User:NotWyoming/sig}} 02:56, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
::Good catch! You should add it to the article :-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:11, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Okay, I'll get on that! {{User:NotWyoming/sig}} 03:14, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

== Slapping headbutt ==

Maybe it should be noten in the oddities that marzipan APPAERS to headbutt homestar, but heaves an hand-shaped mark.
:Already mentioned. Well, except the headbutting part. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Strong Bad With Telekinesis? ==

1: [[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?]]

2: How could he have "dinged" people while dressed up as Homestar in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]???
{{unsigned|Timic83|11:29, 31 October 2006}}
:You're very right. I think I'll add it under oddities if someone hasn't already added it. {{User:Salty/sig}} 15:52, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

!- Have you ever noticed that in [[looking old]], the cards appear without Strong Bad having to move them?

== Thank You to whoever wrote this ==

Armless Invaders — Homestar is the titular "armless invader"

The titular part made me laugh

:It was Homestar Coder who [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Lack_of_Visible_Arms&diff=prev&oldid=177551 originally added] the ref, but it was The Mu who [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Lack_of_Visible_Arms&diff=prev&oldid=360407 introduced the word "titular"]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Images showing lack of arms ==

I think it would be helpful for the gallery in [[Lack of Visible Arms#Characters With No Visible Arms]] to have images which actually show the characters doing things that would normally require arms. If someone agrees, I'ma go get a few and put 'em in the gallery. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:41, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

:I say go for it. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:10, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

::Alright, done. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

:::When can I expect a proper pic of Homestar's cousin to be up? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

== Undeniable proof ==

I talked with the Bros. Chaps IRL, and they said his arms were invisible. Stop saying they don't have arms and they can't do stuff.
:Hi anony. Can you provide undeniable proof of your conversation with TBC? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

== Removal of [[ghosts]] reference in "Ears" section ==

Just a quick note to explain why I removed [[ghosts]] from the list of references to "invisible ears" in the "Other Apparently Invisible Body Parts" section: In this email, Strong Bad is wearing a mask that has fake ears. This is actually unremarkable in this case, because even if he had normally visible ears, the fake ears would cover them and render them invisible anyway. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

== Possible location of SB's nose ==

You don't suppose that the pointy part of the gray piece of Strong Bad's face is his nose, do you? I mean if you looked at that [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|jail cartoon]], where he puts a mask over his face you can see where his nose would be. And in [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]], his nose is right where the pointy part of the gray piece would be.
Whaddya think?

== Storybook Characters ==

If The Prince of Town is a Debatable Character despite the fact he is simply the storybook version of the KOT, who is a Character With No Visible Arms, then Duckshirt Homestar and Storybook Marzipan are debatable as well. Should I add them or delete the POT? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:20, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
:For a few months I've been leaning towards deleting the POT. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:34, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
::Fine, then. He's gone. And Modestly Hot Homsar as well. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:22, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

== Invisible Arm Proof ==
Homestar is clearly using an invisible arm when he drinks his Mountain Dew in [[DNA Evidence]]. What does this mean? O.O - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 01:49, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
:It means TBC are sick of people thinking Homestar and others have telekinesis. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 16:32, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
::[[In Search of the Yello Dello]] proved Marzipan has hands, [[Lappynapped!|Missing Lappy]] proved the KOT has fingers, and now this DNA toon proves Homestar has arms. The only major character left is Homsar, but if he says something about his hands we won't be able to take it seriously. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:35, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
:::If Homestar has arms then why does he not have sleeves or shoulders? How can he manipulate more than 2 objects at one time? And why does he refer to the Homestarmy as "the no-armed forces" in E-mail [[more armies]]? [[Anonymous Contributor]]

How does [[Lappynapped!|Missing Lappy]] prove the KOT has fingers?, all he says is furious fingers! if he has telekinetic abilites he can manipulate a guitar pick.
:Well, [[Ever and More!]] proves he has hands. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:16, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
::Can't we just assume everyone has invisible hands as well as telekinesis? That's a good enough explanation for me. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:30, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

== Marzipan's Legs ==

Do they deserve their own section, or can it be assumed her dress is hiding them? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:27, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
:I think it deserves a section. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:45, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
::Does the section look done to you? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:19, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

== Teeth? ==

First, with such a diverse array of missing body parts being covered here, the current title is insufficient. Who would look to a "lack of visible arms" article to find notes on toons mentioning where characters claim to have teeth? And then, I find the notion of "invisible teeth" highly suspect at that. Many people don't show their teeth, and cartoon characters often don't reveal teeth unless it's necessary to the story. Thus, when Strong Sad brushes his teeth, is it really at all notable? Might he indeed have teeth he just never smiles wide enough to reveal? I think the scope of the page must be revisited. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:46, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Bad does [[replacement|seem to think]] that Strong Sad doesn't have any teeth. Otherwise I agree with you. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 02:57, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
::While you out-trivia'ed me, and that is totally kick-butt awesome, I do hold to my point. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:04, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I'm gonna delete the part about Marzipan's teeth, since there has never been anything that said she didn't have teeth. Should "Other Apparently Invisible Body Parts" be split into a separate article? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:11, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
::::If we split them, we don't have to rename this page. Otherwise, we ''can'' move it to [[Apparently Invisible Body Parts]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:48, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
:That is a great idea. {{User:SantanaHomerunner/sig}}
::It's great to split the articles or to move this one? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:31, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Someone please judge the job I did cleaning up Teeth by removing the examples that weren't contradicted (Marzipan's smile, Strong Bad's "I feel like I need to brush my teeth"). Also, we still haven't decided whether we should rename this article or move the "Other Apparently Visible Body Parts" section to its own page. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 16:06, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
:Any splitting or renaming would need to keep the "lack of visible" phrasing (as opposed to "invisible"), per the [[#Page Title|discussion]] where we arrived at the current page title. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:01, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Probably best to keep the conversation here, even though [[Lack of Visible Body Parts]] now exists. Anyway, regarding teeth, what references are we keeping? I think that Strong Bad saying he doesn't know if Strong Sad has any teeth would warrant inclusion of Strong Sad's lack of visible teeth based on that. I also think it's noteworthy to list Strong Bad's lack of visible teeth since he has fake teeth in [[Jibblies 2]]. Where do you put fake teeth? On top of real teeth. So, isn't that enough to pretty much say that Strong Bad has invisible teeth? (If I'm wrong and this has truly been "contradicted", please correct me.) However, I doubt the noteworthiness of listing Homestar Runner saying "Teeth?" when he DOES actually have visible teeth as evidenced in [[:Image:Homestarteeth.png|this image]]. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 21:04, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:I would like to keep times characters publically admitted they had no teeth and times those confessions were contradicted. That image you linked to was just a figment of Strong Bad's imagination, as I've already said at least twice. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 01:04, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::Also, [[death metal|Strong Bad definitely has teeth]], although it's currently hard to say if they're "invisible" or "always behind the red of his mask". [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 01:17, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:::The point I believe I'm trying to make, Homestar had to open his mouth ''really'' wide to show any teeth, so I believe Qermaq was wondering if everybody would have teeth if they opened their mouths really wide. So it's currently hard to say if their teeth are truly invisible or simply hidden. Do you understand? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:39, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

== Where should the sad kids go? ==

[[Image:Thesadkidsmalloween.png|150px]] This picture was offered as proof that The Sad Kids had no visible arms. I undid it because I believed those were shoulder bags, but I am willing to know what the others believe. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:45, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
:The kid dressed up as The King of Town looks like the bag could actually rest on him like that due to his large stomach, but the girl...seems unlikely.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 06:40, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

== The Poopsmith also doesn't seem to have visible arms ==

Otherwise you'd be able to see his shoulders above the edge of his gauntlets.
:No, the gloves are totally his arms. Like, entirely. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:32, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

== Contradictory Statement in Marzipan's Legs section ==
* The House That Gave Sucky Treats — A rip in Marzipan's Joey Ramone costume reveals that she has no legs.
Considering this is the second thing in a list of things that supposedly stand in oposition to the idea that Marzipan has no legs, it really doesn't belong. Therefore, I will remove this line from the list.[[User:65.103.59.207|65.103.59.207]] 14:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
:The list provides instances where "Marzipan does not appear to have legs" ''as well as'' "a few other 'toons [that] claim otherwise". {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 14:54, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
::If you remove that point, the section creates reactions like, "What if we lifted up Marzipan's skirt and found real legs?" [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 16:39, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Bad's Hair ==

# One Two, One Two — Strong Bad wears a shower cap.
# Email looking old — Strong Bad wears a towel on his head.
# Email web comics — The Strong Bad-like character from the GamerJox webcomic is drawn with hair.
# In Haircut Strong Bad says that he has no hair.

I don't like ''any'' of these 4 lines, myself, since the section is supposedly documenting times when Strong Bad acts as though he ''has'' hair. Any bald person could conceivably do the first two (though they may not normally), the third isn't really even Strong Bad, it's a different version (just like his Old Timey and 20X6 versions's having hair doesn't affect him), and the last is him explicitly saying he ''doesn't'' have hair. What do people think? Also, in theme park, he ''is'' shown with (a) hair, but it's not listed. (I know this post isn't the most eloquent, but I hope people understand what I'm sayin') [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 09:01, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
:I got rid of the last 3 and put back the note about Strong Bad's '''hairnet'''. (It's not a helmet!) The shower cap thing came from One Two's remarks. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 14:04, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
::And i put them back because i think they're notable. Doing things to protect hair when you don't have any is notable, regardless of whether it's possible for a hairless person to do the same things. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:42, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, do you have a stance on the other things I mentioned? [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 00:25, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== DNA Evidence commentary ==

From the DVD commentary for [[DNA Evidence]]:

<blockquote>
'''MATT:''' When Homestar picks up this glass and you actually see his— 
 
'''MIKE:''' Evidence that his arms are invisible. 
 
'''MIKE:''' Right. 
 
'''MATT:''' And not that he's telekinetic. 
 
'''MATT:''' Yeah. That he actually has arms, but they're invisible.</blockquote>

Should this be regarded as final, definitive proof for the invisible arms theory? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:31, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
:I always thought "h-star and the others have telekinesis" was a terrible idea, to say the least, but there's bound to be at least one other who would like that theory to stay. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 01:33, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
::"Evidence" that his arms are invisible. Not "proof", evidence. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:39, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I understand where there could still be some mystery involving telekinesis vs. a possible third invisible arm. See remarks for [[time capsule]] and [[the show]]. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 07:35, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Another thing to remember: creator commentaries are very good at revealing the intentions of the creators, but are not the absolute last word on the nature of the creators' work. For example, creator commentaries can reveal if TBC really meant to refer to Family Guy in [[do over]] (though unfortunately, they didn't reveal this). They cannot reveal every little element of their characters, universe etc., though. As an analogy: If Shakespeare came to life now and told me everything he knew about Hamlet: it would be very interesting and a well-respected opinion, but it would not be the last word: some scholars would disagree with elements of his analysis and would argue in favor of their own analyses. Likewise a commentary by TBC (who, sorry, guys, are actually much lesser artists than Shakespeare) cannot really be considered definitive about anything except their own intentions and methods. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:34, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::I get what you're saying; even though TBC may ''intend'' something to be some way, we still have to go by what happens in the cartoons. Kind of a case of the art becoming bigger than the artist. The commentary should still be mentioned somewhere in the article, but I don't know how to do so without making it come across as "Screw all y'all with different opinions." {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:32, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

::::::I disagree with this, at least to a certain extent. I can buy the fact that interpretations of a work can extend beyond its creators' intentions and still have significance. But those interpretations are severely crippled if the creator blatantly contradicts them. For example, a lot of people have claimed that ''The Lord of the Rings'' is an allegory for the nuclear bomb, industrialization, etc. But Tolkien has stoutly declared that he detests allegory and intended no such thing. In this case, some value may still be derived by comparing The Ring to the nuclear bomb, observing similarities, and learning lessons about human nature, but it would be wrong to say that this comparison is ''part of'' the work itself.

::::::Now, for Homestar Runner, his creators have allegedly claimed that he has invisible arms (unless they're joking; I haven't heard their inflection on the DVD). We must assume that TBC have largely been intending to animate him this way all along, and instances in which this seems to be impossible must be either direct jokes from TBC about the controversy, or else mere inconsistencies that understandably arise from churning out weekly cartoons.

::::::Rather than continue to assume that there's no way to know whether Homestar has invisible arms, uses telekinesis, or something else, I think we should assume that what the creators intended to animate is indeed the case, and perhaps keep a list somewhere of situations in which he acts in a way that seems to be impossible with invisible arms.

::::::I'm thoroughly enjoying this discussion, by the way :D {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:11, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I think we could handle it quite fine by adding something saying that TBC give credence to the invisible arms theory, and then explain the possible counterevidence (lack of sleeves, manipulating three objects at once etc.) It doesn't clearly come down in favor of the invisible arms theory, but still points out the strong possibility TBC mean it to be this way. (I say "strong possibility" because I don't feel TBC's words really make it clear this is definitely how they think of it. Like many remarks on their commentaries, it comes off as a casual musing rather than a pronouncement.) This also allows us to explain the difficulties with this theory. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:59, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

== Split? ==

I think this page is getting too long, and has too large a scope. I propose that we A) drop our grapes B) Create [[Coach Z's Lack of a Visible Face]], [[Strong Bad's Lack of a Visible Nose and Hair]], [[Marzipan's Lack of Visible legs]], [[Lack of Visible Ears]], and [[Other Apparently Invisible Body Parts]]. What do y'all think? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:54, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

:While I agree on the splits, I don't think it should be split to so many articles. We'd be discussing merging before New Year's. I would propse splitting on character wise and then everything else to one article. Furthermore, I really don't like this new trend of giving articles novel names.

:In short, let's split, yes, but into less fragments and with shorter article names. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 19:41, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
::Earlier I proposed putting the entire [[Lack of Visible Arms#Other Apparently Invisible Body Parts]] section into its own article. Would you be okay with just that? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 01:55, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::[[User:Bad Bad Guy/Apparently Invisible Body Parts|Here's]] the format I came up with for the other article. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:44, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Similar to some of the concerns expressed when this page was being named, I have a problem with "Apparently Invisible" as part of the title of the split-off page. Even if it turns out that TBC may indeed intend for the ''arms'' of Homestar et al. to be invisible (see above thread), the problem arises with things like Marzipan's legs. It isn't a question of whether we can see them; they genuinely seem to not be there at all (dunno what ''is'' there, and, man, I don't ''wanna'' know). "Lack of (Other) Body Parts" would ''not'' be high on my list of alternatives, however. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Personally, I don't see the need to list missing bodyparts at all. ''Missing'' body parts are common practice in cartoons and not notable. ''Invisible'' body parts are notable.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:48, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::Which of the body parts would you like to see removed? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 01:55, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Loafing: While for the most part I agree with you, it becomes notable when the characters or the creators specifically comment on the missing part(s). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:03, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::::The part I couldn't find any comments for is "Strong Bad's Hair". I think [[alternate universe]] contains extremely subtle comments about Strong Bad's nose and his ears, but I could be wrong. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:10, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Actually, you could count [[haircut]] as a comment about his hair, but it's already been decided that it does not belong on the article. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:20, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::Dot com: True dat.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:35, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
The best new name I could think of for the other article is "Visibly Lacking Body Parts". So good or no good? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:37, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
:Should I go turn it into a normal article now? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 04:02, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::No, I don't think we've quite hit on the right name yet. [[Stinkoman 20X6|Keep try]]! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:Hmm... "Visibly Lacking Body Parts" doesn't seem to flow that well to me. Is "Lack of Visible Body Parts" any better? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:36, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::I think that title is too broad, but I won't throw a fit if someone disagrees with me. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:54, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Should I go turn it into a real article with a rename template? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:34, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
DeFender, since you started this discussion, do you have any thoughts on my rewrite suggestion and its title? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:17, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

== more pizzazz ==
''This conversation was moved to [[Talk:Lack of Visible Body Parts#more pizzazz]]''

== Debate ==

I don't think the Weelchair should be here. I mean he ''is'' a [[Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]] [[character]]. {{User:Justin Master of Nature/sig}}
:Still, he does lack visible arms, and therefore belongs on this page. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 21:54, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

== Evidence for telekinesis ==

[[Strongest Man In The World]]. Look at Homestar's grapes, as compared to everyone else's. Everyone with visible arms has their grapes steadily in the air, but Homestar's float up and down regularly.

Also, should Senor be added into "oddities", as he's definitely not holding his grapes evenly?--[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 01:35, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
:Lack of Visible body parts? -[[User:Justin Master of Nature|Justin Master of Nature]] 15:46, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

== Merge with [[Lack of Visible Body Parts]]? ==

The two pages seem very similar to me, and so I see no reason to have separate pages for both of them. [[User:Homsarian79|Homsarian79]] 15:58, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Podstar Runner

2008-01-11T02:15:14Z

Homsarian79: /**/Name of podcast on iTunes?

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== Alt versions for podcast ==
On the DVD version of [[dragon]], the homsar easter egg is automatically enabled. They also did this on the new podcast version of the email. So, is there some place that we can note this on the page for that email? Should we create new an entirely new section for Podcast version on this page and all sbemails??? --[[User:Duke33|Duke33]] 17:25, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
: Probably, yeah. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:00, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

== Haha... MINDREADERS! ==

I was thinking about H*R toons on iPods ''THIS MORNING''...!

== RSS Feed ==
Now all they need is an RSS feed so you can put this right in iTunes as a podcast and download it straight to the iPod.. --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:25, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:Maybe a fan can create one. Y'know, like [http://interglacial.com/rss/homestar.html this one]. And no, I didn't mean that I would create one, either.—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 19:08, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:I could certainly do it. I would just assume this would be something we'd want the Brothers Chaps to do themselves. In any case, I'll break out Notepad and have something up in a bit. :) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 20:11, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

-I Created one that you can subscribe to here: [http://feeds.feedburner.com/podstartopod] The tags aren't all that great because I just created a category in Wordpress. But they're there and it works! Check it out - Brad Kovach

== XHTML 1.0 Transitional ==

First time I can remember a DOCTYPE being declared. Can anyone confirm? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:54, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

:It's a shame it [http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http://podstar.homestarrunner.com/ doesn't validate]. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 03:49, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

== Podstar links ==

I added a new interwiki-style link to our repertoire. To link to one of the podstar.homestarrunner.com files, simply preface it with "Podstar:" (for example: [[Podstar:sb_email_japanese_cartoon.m4v]]). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:58, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

== Picture? ==

What's with this weird picture we got here? Is this photoshopped or what?--[[User:Robert Benedicio|Robert Benedicio]] 20:36, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:Nope, the picture is from the .m4v of [[techno]]. [http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/Venusy/technofullscreen.png Here's] a screenshot of the scene in iTunes. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 20:57, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
::Why is the wiki logo different? -You know who!
:::I customized it. See [[User:Venusy/monobook.css|my monobook.css]], about 25 lines down. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 21:09, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
::::That was cool.--{{User:That is Truly an Apple/Sig}} 21:16, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Can somebody transcript any custom animation it contains, like this Strong Bad thing? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:33, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

== Quality ==

Has anybody noticed that the M4V videos have a much higher sound quality than the Flash files? Might seem a bit unfair for the "normal Flashers" at first, but if someone was to import the Flash file (which, if possible, would give us a load of vectors and so a nearly unlimited possibility of resizing) and mix its video track with the audio track of the M4V video, they could actually get megalomanic resolutions and a sound quality that beats the Flash file on the site. Anybody up to the task to make a proof-of-concept, HDTV-compatible Strong Bad Email? As long as it stays a non-redistributed proof-of-concept, it shouldn't be illegal. <nowiki>~~</nowiki>[[User:RavuAlHemio|Ravu]] 21:20, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:Seems like a bit of a waste of time to me, but whatever. Anyway, in regard to your question: from what i've seen, it may not be as, ahem, "simple", as that. Most Flash decompiling programs manage to bugger up tweens etc as well as fonts. Then, on top of this, you usually need to fiddle with the .fla file you get at the end to get it to match up with the original .swf as mask layers etc often separate. Basically, it'd be some hassle.

Actually.. also its higher sound quality on the DVD's too so you could always just buy the dvds... [[User:24.185.119.106|24.185.119.106]] 01:12, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, you should buy the DVDs, because it supports TBC. By the way, I wouldn't spend any time on it, because it ''would'' end up being illegal since anything worth doing eventually ends up distributed. Even if it were legal, this talk page is not the place to solicit volunteers to work on it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:45, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::Never wished to argue with that. Anyways, I was actually thinking about buying myself the Overkill Combo, but since it seems minors can't have credit cards over here in Austria, I'll have to put that off for the next few years (or ask somebody with a credit card). <nowiki>~~</nowiki>[[User:RavuAlHemio|Ravu]] 06:08, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

:::It is illegal. I study copyright law in my free time, and it is illegal. Sorry to crush your hopes and dreams, {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 01:43, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Sound? Yeah, that's a good one. I can't get any sound at all. Not to mention, the video quality seriously sucks.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 00:02, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh man! I am a complete idiot. The sound was off. No matter, I can just use the ones already there.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 00:06, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Have they explicitly forbidden ''creating derivative works for the sole personal use by one single person'' now? If it isn't redistributed, I don't see where the problem lies. <nowiki>~~</nowiki>[[User:RavuAlHemio|Ravu]] 13:13, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Link on Site ==

Is there a link to this page on the actual site besides the recently updated on the homepages? Like in downloads or something? That's where it should be.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 22:27, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
*I noticed that too. I guess the answer is still no. --[[User:71.243.152.233|71.243.152.233]] 03:09, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

== MP4's ==

Hey, do you guys think there is any chance that they would release them on MP4 format so we (i) can watch them on Our (my) PlayStation Portable (PSP) System? either that, or is there some sort of Software or something that i could download so i could convert the M4V Files to MP4's?

-COLA

Since theyve done m4p's they'll probablyn eventually do ones for the PSP. As for converting.. i have no clue lol. [[User:24.185.119.106|24.185.119.106]] 01:14, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

yes they work on the psp- [[HRFWiki:User:Freezestar|Freezestar]]

No, they dont. i checked it out, i even upgraded my Bloody psp, didnt work, and all my movies that i had on it couldnt be played. great job, Sony.

-COLA

They don't work on the PSP. The videos available from the Podstar Runner page are encoded using H.264, and not MPEG-4. While giving it a better file size and reasonable video quality, it makes it incompatible with the PSP. --[[User:TuqueeLukee|Tuquee]] 06:55, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Use PSPVideo9 to transcode the .M4v files. -CujoSR

[[Wikipedia:mencoder|mencoder]] sb_email_techno.m4v -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:vbitrate=896 -oac mp3lame -lameopts vbr=3:br=128 -o sb_email_techno.mp4
Let me know how that works for you, I'm not sure exactly what a PSP expects. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:10, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Strange. It works on mine. PSP-1001 on the side. I update the PSP all the way and put it in the Video folder ([root folder]:\VIDEO folder). And then i just rename the extension to mp4 and throw it into the VIDEO folder. That's what I do. And they work. --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 03:01, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

:When that post was written, PSP firmware 2.80 (or 2.81, I forget which) hadn't been released. That was the firmware that added .m4v support (and you don't need to rename them either). --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 09:16, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

== WMP? ==

do these files play on windows media player? (Or are they convertable to VuGo format?)--{{User:Benol/sig}} 01:09, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

:: They are in H.264 video with AAC audio. I think there are codecs you can get for those for WMP. [[User:Person Man|Person Man]] 02:01, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

No. It doesn't work. I just tried. [[User:Klaymation|Klaymation]]

==Unfocused Floppy==
[[Image:Floppy podcast background.png|thumb|discoveries of the deep?]]
So uh... Anybody figure out what the floppy is labled, the one that the iPod is resting against? All you... Decompilers or just those with good eyesight? And intuition? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:57, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:I think the floppy says: ''Something'' of the ''Something''. It's just too faded.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 02:09, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well, I searched Moby games for a DOS title with "of the" in it, and of around 250 results, the most likely canditate I could find was "discoveries of the deep". Does that look plausible to anybody? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:36, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Definitely looks plausible. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 01:11, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Ditto that. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::I added info for Discoveries of the Deep to the [[Floppy Disk Container]] article. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 19:31, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's iPod? I think not. ==

That is not Strong Sad's iPod in the background, as stated on the wiki. It appears to be at least a 4G iPod, but its shape (especially the screen) is closer to that of the 5G iPod. Look at it--it has the gray clickwheel characteristic of 4G+ iPods. Strong Sad's is first- or second-generation. -[[User:Bruce|Bruce]]

:It doesn't look exactly like Strong Sad's iPod from the picture, but it is blurry, so details might not have been put in. Other times that this happens is when you see a zoomed-out picture of the Compy, and you cannot see the dial. Lets just see what others put in as well and then we will make final decisions. -[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:52, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

::Whoops. Didn't sign that last message--fixed. Anyway, here's the thing. The blur would make it hard to decide, except for the scroll-wheel. Notice it's gray. Strong Sad's iPod, as seen so far, has had a white scroll-wheel. The blur filter may obscure details, but it's not going to change the colors of anything. -[[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 05:04, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

:::The width of the screen appears to be wider than Strong Sad's iPod, but quite like a video iPod.

::::The enlarged screen size and trademarked click wheel give it away that this iPod was designed to be a 5G iPod. However, note the headphone jack is plugged into the middle of the top of the iPod. That characteristic is not true with 5G iPods, which have the jack on the far right of the top. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:35, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::Well, let's think about this for a minute. Who else in the Brothers Strong house (or anywhere else in FCUSA for that matter) owns an iPod? Mabye Strong Sad upgraded to a newer version or something. I agree, it's not the same one that we've seen before, but no one else has an iPod, so in my opinion, it ''has'' to be Strong Sad's. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:50, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

::::::I concur. Is this already noted on the item's article, or have we yet to add it? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 15:31, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

::::::I thought the same exact thing as Has Matt? but I forgot to mention it. Who else would have an ipod? I think so far its Strong Sads, unless maybe in the future it is revealed that maybe Strong Bad got one or something.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 21:55, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::::Strong Bad with an iPod? Strong Bad thinks that flashlights are "the future of technology". {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:25, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::::: Maybe the Cheat bought an iPod... I mean, we already know he likes Apple :P

== Original Name ==

Since they changed the name from Strong Bad video podcasts, I think we should mention it in trivia.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 22:00, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:So... mention it. :) I'd do it but I haven't kept up with this page closely enough to know for sure what you're talking about. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

==What do I have to do?==
What do I have to do to make Strong Bad pop up? I says wait a second after the email, what email it doesn't play any email. {{User:Bassium!/sig}}

:Please be more specific. After every Strong Bad Email featured, a short clip of Strong Bad should appear. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:46, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Oh, so you have to download the emails to watch the clips and stuff, well in that case nevermind. {{User:Bassium!/sig}}

== PSP...rar ==

I could help with the PSP and iPod video conversion

:I don't believe that creating PSP files for distribution would fall under [[Wikipedia:Fair use|fair use]] laws. Thanks for offering, though. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 15:44, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

::While distribution of alternate versions would be illegal, converting it yourself to another format and playing it on your PSP would be considered fair use. Since the videos don't have DRM, they are not covered by the DMCA and the fair use exception can apply.
:::Creating a instructions to convert or a program that will do the converting would be fine (assuming you don't charge for it or anything). --[[User:SirNuke|SirNuke]] 01:22, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

::::This may be true, but ''I'' don't believe it falls under fair use. Just me. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 19:11, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== Requires Quicktime? ==

Below external links it says that either iTunes or Quicktime is required to play these, but I must disagree. All that's needed is a player that can support the MOV file format, H264 decoding, and AAC decoding. The videos all play back perfectly on my computer without any sort of Apple "adware" installed. And it says that Quicktime version 6.0 is required, but I don't think that 6.0 can play H264 video. --[[User:Taku42|Taku42]] 21:07, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

:It can play H263, however. As for other programs, Quicktime and iTunes are the only two official programs that fully support and write .mov format. If you know of another that's as good as either of these, however, please say so. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:11, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

::[[Wikipedia:MPlayer|MPlayer]] (the almighty) has no problems. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:26, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

::The VideoLan Client ([http://www.videolan.org/vlc/]) works really well. Which is a bit odd since VLC often has trouble with newer Quicktime files.--[[User:SirNuke|SirNuke]] 01:06, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

They may mean Quicktime 7, which I believe is the minimum requirement for iTMS videos.

Anonymous.

Also, video is only supported in iTunes 6.0 and up, podcasts from version 4.9. So regarding either capability, the iTunes version in the article is incorrect. [[User:68.239.131.197|68.239.131.197]] 01:24, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Brothers Chaps helped! wooh ==

I got a email, from them after i emailed them.

<blockquote>Quicktime Pro can convert a .m4v file to an .mp4 file or any other format for that matter. 
Just open the file up in Quicktime and choose Export to put it in whatever format you need, 
this way you shouldn't have a problem getting it onto you PSP. 
 
 
Brothers Chaps</blockquote>

On Jan 31, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Beep wrote:

<blockquote>Hello, i noticed that you just put up Podstar Runner, for the iPod, well, 
is it possible that you could do a different version, for the PSP? PSP uses the .mp4 files. 
 
Thank You.</blockquote>

So...Wooh! --[[User:Jetamoo|Coach J]] 18:53, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

The psp needs a thumbnail file too so just converting it to mp4 won't work (I've tried). [http://www.pspvideo9.com/ PSP video 9]is the easiest way, it creates a thumbnail file automatically. Get a big memory stick too, videos eat up space fast.

== RSS feed oddities ==
I removed them from the article, because the odd things in the RSS feed (copyright tag, link tag) are because TBC copied the RSS example from [http://www.podcastx.com/articles/26/1/How-To-Publish-a-Podcast-on-the-iTunes-Music-Store Apple's website]. I have emailed TBC about the tags, too. --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 00:19, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

==¿Qué está el problema?==

I downloaded the latest versions of quicktime and iTunes and these files won't run on my computer no matter what I try! The podcast won't even download, it keeps showing the same error! Is it because my comp uses windows? Does my computer hate me?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 05:23, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:Can't help you with the podcast. That's really too bad. :( But I can help you in other ways. Que and esta need é and á, and it's ''el'' problema. Tricky Spanish, eh? But sorry about the errors, and sorry that I'm no expert in iPods. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:36, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

::I don't even have an iPod, I just want to watch them on my comp so I can hear this so called "better sound quality".--{{User:Benol/sig}} 12:11, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Today's top podcast! ==

Strong Bad Email is currently "Today's Top Podcast" in the iTunes Music store! {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:32, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:Get a screenshot while it lasts. =) It might come in useful. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Here's the screenshots:
<gallery>
Image:Podstar Top Podcast.png|<center>Top Podcast</center>
Image:Podstar New & Notable.png|<center>New & Notable</center>
</gallery>
::I'm not sure if these should go on the page or not, though. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 06:43, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

==Descriptions==

I'm not sure if this can go anywhere on the page, but I figured I'd list the descriptions within iTunes for the episodes.

techno -- Some bozo asks about techno music. 
japanese cartoon -- Strong Bad makes up his own japanese cartoon. 
dragon -- Strong Bad starts a bad drawing revolution. 
kids book -- Strong Bad seriously defaces a children's book. 
crying -- Strong Bad seriously defaces a children's book. (whoops on their part, apparently) 
bottom 10 -- From the home office in Scotsdale, AZ... 
caffeine -- Strong Sad gets caffeinated. 
virus -- A virus wreaks havoc on the Compy. 

I wasn't exactly sure where to put this, but I figured it should at least be listed somewhere around here, so here it is. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 07:58, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:lol, reading the edit history for the main page, I suppose I should have left my editorialized comments out of it, or put it separate or in italics or something. Sorry! (I didn't realize they fixed it, though; I guess I'll have to redownload it.) [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 19:10, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

==Mirrors?==
Should we upload the previous emails on the mirror, seeing as they are not currently available from the official site? -FatPamPam

Probably not a good idea. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 18:29, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

== Guitar was a little earlier... ==
Y'know, Guitar actually was downloadable on the night of February 26th, not the 27th as it says here... maybe we should mention that... --[[User:The Experimental Film|The Experimental Film]] 21:58, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

:Well technically, the first five weren't released one after the other on seperate days, as it reads in the podcast, either. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:37, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bandwith Issue ==

Since now on the website only the most recent is available, are the other emails unavailable through iTunes as well? I wouldn't know because I was already subscribed and had them on my computer before the problem occured.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 03:26, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

:Unfortunately, yes, they are unavailable. All that appears in the list is "guitar". {{User:FireBird/sig}} 04:10, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

::Was "bottom 10" ever even on iTunes? I tried to get it, but the podcast wasn't downloading it... --[[User:The Experimental Film|The Experimental Film]] 23:36, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Yes, it was. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 13:03, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

== virus ==

I see that the menu below virus is not in this version. How do they handle that scene where Homestar is picking up the words? Can we get a shot of that? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:10, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

:The issue with the widescreen ratio and therefore pan and scan style of virus (.mp4) is already mentioned. The navbar is indeed cut off when Homestar picks up the words, if that's what you mean. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:13, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

::Right. I'm curious what that looks like. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:14, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

:::I won't be able to get a screenshot up until I get home, as virus is currently undownloadable. However, it looks as though Homestar's head is pulling words up from nowhere. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:17, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

::::He is. Homestar pulls the words from nowhere.
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2383/podcastviruspic1cu.png
--[[User:The Experimental Film|The Experimental Film]] 23:42, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

== Cost? ==

Does it cost anything to download? [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]]
:Nope! It's free to download! {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:12, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

== Relative linking ==

I'm still getting an error when clicking on the navbar links below the Podstar index. Is anyone else? Could they have fixed it and then broken it again when they updated? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:14, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
:They seem to be working fine for me... Maybe something's up on your end...? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Do they ''all'' work all the time? One of them worked at first and then stopped. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:20, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
:::All of them work all of the time. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::The first time I load the page, it works for the first link I try. Then it reverts to the relative linking behavior. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:22, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::It works all the time for me (Flash 7/Fx 1.5/Linux) but looking at the source code it seems it hasn't been "fixed" by TBC at all - it's still relative linking, and there's nothing telling it to go to www.etc instead of podstar.etc. However the main_nav.swf is being loaded from www.etc. So I'm guessing some browsers/versions of Flash/whatever is taking the relative link relative to the page (which won't work) and others take it relative to the .swf (which will work). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:49, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

== File Sizes ==

The file sizes quoted on the podstar page are sort of innaccurate... In computing, the prefix "kilo", for example, can mean two things - the standard 103= 1000 or the more computer-friendly 210 = 1024 (computers, working in binary, are good for working with powers of 2). Megabytes can, by extension, be 1,000,000 (1000²) bytes or 1,048,576 (1024²) bytes. Usually the binary megabytes are used for things like RAM capacity, since that will always be a power of 2, and file sizes. Decimal megabytes are often used for hard disk capacities (to make them sound bigger, since the number on the box is bigger). (Because of the confusion, SI proposed the prefix [[Wikipedia:Mebi|Mebi]], but it never really caught on.) However the filesizes quoted on the podstar page are such that 1MB = 1,024,000 bytes (1000×1024), which isn't correct either way. Most likely the computer gave the size in kB by dividing by 1024, and TBC then divided by 1000 to get MB. The only thing I know of which uses 1,024,000 megabytes is the 1.44MB floppy disk, which is 1.44×1024×1000 bytes. 
The questions are: (1) Can the above be summarised into something suitable for a fun fact? Not so long as to ramble, as the above does, but not so short as to leave out any important information. (2) In the table at the bottom of the article, should we quote (a) the filesize from the podstar page, (b) The actual size in decimal megabytes, (c) The actual size in binary megabytes or (d) separate columns for both (a) and one of (b) or (c). At the moment it is (c), which gets my vote. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:26, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
:There is already the goof:

:Many of the listed file sizes are inaccurate. The table below shows the correct file sizes.

:and the listing below. What do you want beyond that? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:28, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
::Oh, I didn't see that. Still, some explination of ''why'' they're inaccurate could be good, since that goof reads like "man, TBC are so dumb they couldn't even get the filesizes right" as opposed to "filesizes are more complicated than they look, and TBC got it wrong". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:33, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

== Teen Girl Squadcast ==

It was released but the wiki hasn't recorded it. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 05:23, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Oh wait, I just did that "purge" thing for the main page, and it says it, nevermind. Now all someone has to do here is add info on the article. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 05:35, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I's all done? Super! - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 05:42, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

== Time on iPod ==

Does 8:04 PM have any significance? Just wondering.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 16:04, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
:I doubt it. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 16:13, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

== Just something I noticed...==
The description for [[different town]] in the XML feed is "How would Strong Bad make the town different?". For as long as I can remember (much earlier than March 13, 2006, anyways), the summary on the Wiki has been "How would Strong Bad make the town different?". It may just be a coincidence, but I doubt it. We know TBC have used the Wiki in the past. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 13:03, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:In any case, it looks like that's different from the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=different_town&diff=next&oldid=869 original description]: ''Steven WV writes in and askes Strong Bad what he would change in his town to make it better, and he sings a weirded-out song, in which he describes how he would change the characters. You'll have to see it to find out!''. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:58, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

::The description was set to that on [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=different_town&diff=82968&oldid=82303 15 May 2005], the "Weeeehhhhhllllll" finally being removed [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=different_town&diff=285214&oldid=285212 today]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:52, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

== Background's gone. ==

On the Podstar Runner page, the background is black now. Why?--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 22:40, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:The background isn't black. The server is running a bit slowly, and you'll need to wait for the background to load. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:44, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

== How do you access this on the homestar runner webstie? ==

Where is it?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 08:46, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

:[http://podstar.homestarrunner.com/index.html http://podstar.homestarrunner.com/index.html]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:52, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

::It's linked from the New button on the main pages... I don't think it's linked to anywhere else on the site though. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:16, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

How do you acces it through the Homestar runner website?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 04:26, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
:He just said. That rotating button on the main pages that flashes through the updates. The last of its options usually is Podstar Runner. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 04:50, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

== Podstar Summaries ==

Hey, should we place the Podstar Runner summaries on the pages of the emails/TGS...s? Example:

(from [[dragon)

<blockquote>[[Image:sbemail58picture2a.PNG|thumb|"Check out all his majesty."]]

Kaizer wants to know if Strong Bad can draw a dragon.

'''[[Podstar Runner]] Summary:''' Strong Bad starts a bad drawing revolution.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Trogdor]], [[Coach Z]], [[Strong Mad]], [[Homsar]] (Easter egg), [[Strong Sad]]'''

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]]</blockquote>

I know it sounds stupid, but, I think it's information that needs to be noted. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 01:37, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

:It ''is'' already noted. Check the Fun Facts. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:47, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

::Well, should it be noted up there if people are missing it? {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 22:10, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

== You know what? ==

Maybe the Bros. Chaps should start uploading these to [http://video.google.com Google Video Beta].

{{User:X-Spider2/X-Sigger2}} 05:17, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

:I doubt they would want to, considering the [http://video.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=31704 terms of use]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:05, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

::OK. Well, I've noticed a bug. If you [http://www.live.com/?add=http://podstar.homestarrunner.com/podcast.xml add the podcast to Windows Live], and try to read the description, the .m4v file starts playing automatically where the description should be (if you have QuickTime 6.0 or later). Nevermind the Bullocks (no, I'm not from England), {{User:X-Spider2/X-Sigger2}} of the Corn Army, 08:33, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== Not a valid Podcast URL? ==

Anyone else having problems with the podcast? Using iTunes 6.0.5 (on OS 10.4.7), when I try to update it says:

<blockquote>
'''"Strong Bad Emails & More!" does not seem to be a valid Podcast URL.''' 
 
Please check that you have entered the correct URL and try again.
</blockquote>

I have checked, and the URL is correct.

[[User:Benabik|Benabik]] 20:15, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

:Try clicking this link, which will bring it up in the iTunes Music Store: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=122139371.

:If you'd rather enter it manually, the correct URL is: http://podstar.homestarrunner.com/podcast.xml. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 02:51, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

== This specific piece of trivia: Are you sure? ==

''When the email ends and returns to the animated iPod menu, "Homestarrunner.com" is highlighted. However, the animated menu at the beginning of the email has "Email" selected. The iPod's memory should keep the selection where it was when you left it, not move back to the top.''

I only have a 4G iPod, so it may not apply to this, but every time it finishes up a playlist or album, it goes back to the main menu and the top word (Music) is highlighted.
But you guys can go ahead and prove me wrong by doing it on your fancy-pants video iPods. I don't mind, really. --[[User:Mashi|Mashi]] 18:33, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

My iPod Video goes back to Music on the main menu when it's done playing, as well. But it remembers its position in other menus. --[[User:71.197.114.207|71.197.114.207]] 17:23, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

==Missing videos==

Now that I actually have an iPod, I'm kind of miffed that bottom 10, crying and caffeine were removed from the podcast itself on iTunes. They can still be downloaded off the server from direct linking, yes, but it won't go on my iPod in the podcast section with the rest, and I'm a stickler for organization. Any idea WHY they were removed to begin with? [[User:Evan|Evan]] 05:57, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

==Zip File==

Does anybody have a zip file containing everything on Podstar Runner? It would be kinda helpful. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 15:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

== NEWS UPDATE!!!!: Podstar Runner on PSP ==

If you download the latest firmware update, v 2.80, you can subscribe to the podstar runner podcast via RSS and save podstar toons directly to your psp in the /VIDEO folder! More news at 11:00.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 19:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Caper? ==

The link to caper doesn't work anymore. {{User:Einstein runner/sig}} 23:50, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

*I guess the hiatus since the previous update was so long, the other videos are now hard to download.

== Exclusive Content? ==

I've just bought an iPod and I'm wondering if any of the Podstar Runner content is exclusive. I watch stuff on the site often and want to know if I've been missing anything.[[User:67.191.243.115|67.191.243.115]]

:I think most of the differences are noted in [[Podstar Runner#Fun Facts]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

== podcast working? ==

I've been trying from multiple locations to download the podcasts.
I have a DS3 at work and I get nothing.
Something broke?
:It works fine for me. Sometimes the server gets overloaded though... they're big files, after all... especially whenever a new one comes out. If that happens just wait and try again. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:50, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

== Creative Zen ==

Is there any way to make these compatible with a Creative Zen Vision player?

What video format does it use?
[[User:Anakin4me|The Ugly One]] 21:10, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

== Video iPod? ==

I know this is a stupid question, but is these emails for only video ipod or all ipods?--[[User:68.218.252.203|68.218.252.203]] 03:01, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and I was the one that said that above. I just wasn't logged in.--[[User:Ava|Ava]] 03:03, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
:If the iPod plays videos, it will work. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 03:04, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
I think what he means is, if you download a email to a non-video ipod, will you still be able to hear the email, even though you can't see it?-[[User:LordQuackingstick|LordQuackingstick]] 03:24, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

I'll take this, since no one seems to know the answer. Yes, you can still view a video-podcast on a 4G iPod (that supports podcasts) by viewing the podcast from the Music menu instead of the Video → Video Podcasts menu. It plays the video-podcast as a regular podcast; with only audio. I'm about 90% sure of this, since it can be done this way on a 5G iPod. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 06:34, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't suppose the second generation iPod nano does podstar?

:My understanding is that the iPod Nano doesn't play any video files. so it wouldn't be able to play podstar runner videos. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:47, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

== "crying" ==

My sister wants to watch it. But it's been removed. From both sides. (This article and the Podstar page on the H*R site). What I mean is, the link's broken. --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 23:29, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
:No it isnt... I just went on it.--[[User:X66x66|X66x66]] 23:41, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
::Only 18 SBEmails are kept on the Podstar Runner site at a time. You can still watch it [[HR:sbemail109.html|on the official site]], or you could download the Podstar version from YouTube using a service such as [http://videodownloader.net videodownloader.net]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 23:47, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
::: *attempting Strong Bad speech* Or maybe [http://www.saveyoutube.com Save Youtube.com]! --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 02:57, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

== Binary Technology description added? ==

When decoded, the description of technology is "Ç,:«�" (Not including quotations) Should that be added to trivia or something? {{User:Steve/sig}} 23:23, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
:Well, the binary string is 37 bits (in a row), so it's not going to decode correctly in 7-bit or 8-bit ASCII, or any of the Unicode formats, 'cause it's not a whole number of characters. It might be worth noting that the number in binary is 106930066790 in decimal, like on [[technology#Trivia|technology]], but I think it's just too trivial. If you're curious, you can check out [[Talk:technology#Has anyone tried...|the conversation that came up over this last time]], but there's not much there. Just remember, it's important to note the difference between [[Wikipedia:Binary number|binary]], which is just a way of representing numbers, and [[Wikipedia:ASCII|ASCII]], which is one of many ways of making those numbers represent letters and symbols. It's reasonable to assume that the string of 1s and 0s is binary, but it's not ASCII. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:16, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

== Much mirroring to be done, please ==

Ok, the following links seem to have been removed and can no longer be downloaded:
*[[crying]]
*[[bottom 10]]
*[[caffeine]]
*[[different town]]
*[[personal favorites]]
*[[death metal]]
*[[crazy cartoon]]
*[[trevor the vampire]]
*[[stunt double]]
*[[best thing]]
I'd mirror them if I could, but I never downloaded them while they were up. Could someone who has please mirror them? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 04:02, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

:{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Title !! Download
|-
| [[crying]] || [[Podstar:sb_email_crying.m4v|download]]
|-
| [[bottom 10]] || [[Podstar:sb_email_bottom10.m4v|download]]
|-
| [[caffeine]] || [[Podstar:sb_email_caffeine.m4v|download]]
|-
| [[different town]] || [[Podstar:sb_email_different_town.m4v|download]]
|-
| [[personal favorites]] || [[Podstar:sb_email_personal_favorites.m4v|download]]
|-
| [[death metal]] || [[Podstar:sb_email_death_metal.m4v|download]]
|-
| [[crazy cartoon]] || [[Podstar:sb_email_crazy_cartoon.m4v|download]]
|-
| [[trevor the vampire]] || [[Podstar:sb_email_trevor.m4v|download]]
|-
| [[stunt double]] || [[Podstar:sb_email_stuntdouble.m4v|download]]
|-
| [[best thing]] || [[Podstar:sb_email_best_thing.m4v|download]]
|}
:It's weird that ten out of fifty-three don't work. And it's not like they are the first ten released or anything. How long have you noticed this? I wonder if it's a short term thing. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:30, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

::I knew [[personal favorites]] was down since early February, since someone posted it on the talk page, but I just realized last night that all these were down. I do know that a few, like [[trevor the vampire]], [[stunt double]], [[caffeine]], and a few others were up at Christmas, seeing as my friend put them on his iPod around that time. Anyway, ''could'' anyone mirror them soon? I'm getting an iPod this weekend, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants these emails on the go :P {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 21:45, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Seriously, not to be a nag, but does anyone have these files? The wiki is kinda incomplete without them. I'd do it myself if i could. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 00:38, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

==Glitches==
Ok, I noticed a few glitches when watching some toons. for one, when watching [[theme park]], the video freezes when before the cut to Pom Pom and Bubs, but the audio keeps going. You can keep going by fast forwarding a few seconds, but it still always freezes at the same place. Also, with TGS's 6-12, they all start off somewhere in the middle of the cartoon (the same place every time), but pressing the left button brings the toon back to the beginning. However, pressing the center button and scrolling to a certain time will always snap you back to a specific point in the toon. For example, fast forwarding anywhere in TGS7 always snaps to the "dipped it in salt" line. Also, holding the right button just blacks out the toon and brings you back to the menu. I know that it's not just my iPod that does these things, seeing as my friend's does the exact same things, but does anyone else have these problems, too? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}}

==These peoples try to fade me==
The reason I'm guessing that this was released was because the version on the CD (which I have) was not compatible with a 5G iPod (which I also have). I put the CD version on iTunes before, but it just said the video "...cannot be played on this iPod". The m4v version worked. {{User:Mee/sig}}

==iPod Question==
I have the the first gen iPod, that (as far as I know), doesn't play video. Will it play Podcasts? [[User:Kaine|Kaine]] 00:52, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
:No, the podcasts are only videos.--{{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 01:30, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
::Pardon my french, but '''****!''' [[User:Kaine|Kaine]] 01:59, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

== Dead ==

..it's gone.-[[User:71.170.23.253|71.170.23.253]]
:What's gone? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 16:32, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
::[http://podstar.homestarrunner.com/ http://podstar.homestarrunner.com/] —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:34, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh noes! :( --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 16:52, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
::::So, could someone start making a mirror of the podcasts? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 16:55, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::At least people can't download them and post them on YouTube now. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 19:43, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::Use archive.org for the mirror making {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 20:26, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Cool. I'd never heard of that website before. But only sysops can make mirrors. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 20:47, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Man I just got a new iPod...Is there anyway I can get all of the Podcasts onto my iPod?
:::::::...So... How about that mirror-making? :D I just got a new iPod nano and I'm itching to get some Homestar on it. >_> [[User:Thrashmeister|Thrashmeister]] 14:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

== Mirror of Podcasts ==

Can mirrors of the podcast be put up so the ones that were available before it was shutdown be available for download? If so let me know. I think it is a good idea. I really want the email [[virus]].--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 19:01, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
:One problem I fear will come from making mirrors (No, I do not have the rights or the podcasts): If the service was shut down because too many people posted their podcasts online (I hope you get the irony) then putting them up for download on our website wouldn't do TBC any good. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 14:22, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
::Guess we don't need to worry anymore... Rejoice! :D [[User:Thrashmeister|Thrashmeister]] 19:42, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== Moto Q and Flash Question ==

Could any of the podcasts be viewed on a Motorola Q with Windows Media Player? Is there also an early flash file for the page still having the podcasts on?

== Why? ==

I just got a new iPod, and was really disappointed when I realized that you couldn't download the podcasts anymore. Does anyone know why the podcasts were taken off the site? --[[User:Biscuithead1293|Biscuithead1293]] 21:32, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
:My theories:
:# TBC got sick of people downloading podcasts of their internet cartoons and posting them on the internet (I'd be happy to explain the irony if it isn't obvious already)
:# The iPod Touch has an internet brower so they thought people could already use that to watch h*r on an iPod. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:37, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, but I just got an iPod Touch, and you can't view flash files on it. --[[User:Biscuithead1293|Biscuithead1293]] 22:20, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

:: the Real theory: BANDWIDTH. 10 MB apiece+ most popular thing on itunes = instant death of website. [[User:Sneakernets|Sneakernets]] 05:01, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

== other MP3 Players ==

do you think it'll work on another type of mp3 player? i have a media converter that came with mine. does anyone have anything other than ipod that has gotten it to work? Jan 8, 2007
[[user:Homsarstrongbad150]]

:Yeah, probably. What kind of file does your mp3 player accept? Or at least what kind of files does your converter accept? I have all of the original podcast episodes in .avi format if you need any.[[User:Metroidpal45|Metroidpal45]]

I have no idea how to check for that. i'll check the user guide. but how do i get them onto my computer is the problem. if i have the files on my computer, i can drag them on the media converter and it'll tell me if it'll work or not. oh, and i'd like crazy cartoon, stunt double, and bottom 10 if possible. user:Homsarstrongbad150.[[User:Homsarstrongbad150|Homsarstrongbad150]]

== No Flash? ==

http://podstar.homestarrunner.com/

Is not a flash page, despite homestarrunner.com being in all flash. --[[User:70.226.160.89|70.226.160.89]] 17:46, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

== Not Working. ==

the link for "looking old" isn't working. anyone know why?
[[User:Anakin4me|The Ugly One]] 21:09, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
:It's a mistake. The real link can be found [[podstar:podcast.xml|here]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 21:13, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

== One at a time, please. ==

It looks like Podstar Runner is going to be treated similarly to [[Quote of the Week]], [[Weekly Fanstuff]] and the [[Sketchbook]]. It's my opinion that we should match the page style of [[Quote of the Week]], which would include listing the toons in reverse order. IMO, we also ought to include the screenshot they use in the table(s). {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 22:01, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
:The screenshot might be pushing it, but I agree with the rest. That was my interpretation of "one at a time please" too. A good way to solve whatever issues the previous version had. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:03, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
::Will we be mirroring these (large) files like we do with the small QotW files? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 22:11, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

== Name of podcast on iTunes? ==

What is the current name of the podcast on iTunes? I've searched for Homestar Runner, Homestarrunner.com, Strong Bad, The Brothers Chaps, and every other name I could think of, so where is it??

Talk:diorama

2007-12-05T15:24:59Z

Homsarian79: /* KoT skin color */

== The Deciders? ==

I heard "the signers" {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:02, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:You are right. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 15:03, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

== Soolnds ==
"Dr. Soft-Soolnd's Tan Medical Shoes" is a reference to Strong Sad's Soolnds. This should be mentioned under "Inside Jokes". --Anon {{unsigned|72.1.206.12|15:24, 3 December 2007 (UTC)}}
:I {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=diorama&diff=523947&oldid=523946 added a link in the transcript}}. I think this should be enough... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::I dunno, I never actually read the transcripts... I recognized the reference, but not everyone will. [[User:Dalkaen|Dalkaen]] 01:40, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Seconded. I rarely read the transcripts, unless I'm not sure what a certain line is. I skip straight to the Fun Facts, so it would nice to have it mentioned down there. [[User:Aaronstj|Aaronstj]] 19:04, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

== Simpsons?? ==
The remark regarding the Simpsons episode seems like a stretch at best. I figured I'd open that for discussion before charging in there and deleting it. [[User:Gerta|Gerta]] 15:46, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

== Coach Z easter egg ==

What does this have anything to do with the email? Is there a connection that i'm missing? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:30, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
: Good question. I also feel that, although the cheating line is obvious, the reason why The Cheat is holding the Lappy is going over my head. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:03, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
: Oh, wait, I get part of the Coach Z scene. The KoT book is supposedly written by "Ronmartin Realdude", the same person Coach Z is allegedly talking to. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:07, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::Okay, but why would coach z be talking to a fake author about a fake relationship on a fake cell phone? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:::That's the joke. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 06:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
: I think the reason the Cheat is holding the Lappy is because we're assuming he helped Strong Bad with all the internet site stuff for the fake book, since SB isn't exactly advanced to internet level. -Cyndentia
::We're heading into forum speculation but here's what I think: The Cheat's walking off with the Lappy because he's going to design, program and create the book website for Strong Bad's diorama project. As we all know, Strong Bad's lazy and always gets his lackey to do all his work. It would explain why The Cheat makes "agreeing The Cheat noises" when Strong Bad says "It's gotten so hard to cheat these days!" because he's got to make the website. And The Cheat is the one most skilled with technology. Then again, why would he use the Lappy instead of the Tangerine Dreams or Monosodium Dreams? Hmmm. Oh, and Coach Z's irrelevant scene is just there to make you laugh. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:35, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I'm pretty sure it was in reference to the SedBed's comments that "Cheating is getting harder." I'm pretty sure Teh C is simply absconding with the Lappy, and showing the ease of actual cheating. [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 21:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::::At this point this topic is getting into the realm of speculation, and i would really suggest that we stop now and move it to the forum. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::I assumed The Cheat was haulin' the laptop simply because it's a visual representation of "It's gotten so hard to cheat", as similarly it's gotten hard to '''be''' a The Cheat. '''→''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 17:47, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

== KoT skin color ==

was this the first time we could see the King's skin? if so, can someone put this in the article? -Raltaran
*It's already in there. [[User:Homsarian79|Homsarian79]] 15:24, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

== Not a Cat ==

When Strong Bad is talking about the website that Molly would have to make for a fake book, the author blurb mentions that he is "NOT a cat!!" This is the classic line of Evil the Cat from Earthworm Jim, when he's in disguise. Should this be a reference?--[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 19:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:Agreed. --[[User:72.226.234.136|72.226.234.136]] 23:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

== Intro ==

*Strong Bad's tone of voice at the beginning of the email could be a reference to the video game [[wikipedia:Portal_%28video_game%29|Portal]], in which the antagonist GLaDOS often mentions cake.
This fact was quickly removed, but it raises a good question (one that i didn't know how to raise in a non-forummy way until now) and that is, what the heck is with the intro? IS it a reference to something? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:19, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, so a little computer that is near death and lonely gets made fun of and makes people GLaD and makes them laugh just for eating cake? that is not right. and yes i have the game. and beaten the game. and played the commentary, for the game.GLaDoS's helper [[User:Imdaman]]
== Image ==
I think we should have the image be of another diorama example, like James Buchanan must die.-Me

== 99.99.99 ==

Ya know, this is probably far fetched, but $99.99.99 was the most well-known phrase of Mike the TV from the TV Show ReBoot. (The price of the 'Bucket o' Nothing' he was always advertising.) [[User:68.228.89.148|68.228.89.148]] 22:33, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

== King of Town's Adventures ==

I know that "The King of Town's Adventures in Giant Cockroachland" is a reference to "The Cheat's Cheatventures in Moses Maloneland", but I haven't a clue of how to phrase it. Anybody got any ideas? -{{User:Itama/sig}} 23:43, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:I don't really think it *is* a reference, actually... "X's Adventures in X" is a common theme among childrens' books. -{{User:YK/sig}} 00:35, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
::most notably Alice's Adventure's in Wonderland.

== Byoo-cannon ==

* "Byoo-cannon" is also the name of a president. James Buchannon
This fact was recently removed, but i didn't realize this till i read it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:Then re-add it. It doesn't sound that good as written, though. -{{User:YK/sig}} 00:33, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
::The whole point of it being a "Byoo-cannon" is that it's being used on the clothespin avatar of James Buchannan. That's the joke. It's acknowledged right within the email itself that the target is Buchannan. This fact is thus completely obvious, and should not be added. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 06:58, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
:::No, you misunderstand. I'm not saying it should go back in, as it's definitely explaining the joke. I put it here so that those who are slow (like me) might read it, but i agree it definitely doesn't belong in the article itself. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:17, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

==Wikipedia reference==

The "check your sources" statement could be referencing teachers disallowing Wikipedia as a source. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 01:31, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
: I'm sorry, but I don't see the logic leading to that conclusion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:34, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Bad Smiling ==

Strong Bad smiles when discussing the dinosaur attacking the treaty signers, can someone make this edit, as all my edits seem to get immediately deleted.

I think he smiles in like, every other cartoon, now. I don't think it's worth mentioning anymore.-Lappy z
:We actually had a [[Talk:Strong Bad Smiling#Notable?|discussion]] on whether or not that gag is worth recording at all, but it's too hard for some people here to decide if it is truly impossible for "happy" to be an opposite of "evil". [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:21, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

== Robots ==
A cardboard robot is shown twice, this should be mentioned as an inside reference.
:Something has to be shown three times or more to be an inside reference, and it doesn't even count if it only appears in one toon a few times. {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}
::I think he's talking about cardboard and [[robots]]... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:37, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

== One off ==
When Strong Bad is talking about assasinations, his examples are one president before actual assasinated or attempted assasinated presidents. For example, Jimmy Carter was president before Reagan, who was shot, but didn't die. And James Buchanan was right before Lincoln, who was shot in Ford's theatre.-Lappy z (not logged in)

== Eating Non-Food Items ==

Should the fact that the king of town eats a non-food item (The cotton balls) be mentioned on this page? It is allready mentioned on [[Eating Non-Food Items]] [[User:24.64.223.204|24.64.223.204]]

== Chemical add in ==

Mollybdenum is a name parody of the element Molybdenum and I am right
:Mollybdenum is a name parody of the element Molybdenum and you are late. ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 14:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC))
::Am I the only one that thought of 'moldy-bread-enum' when strong bad said 'mollybdenum'? [[User:Yadaman|Yadaman]] 22:52, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

== This Might Be a Shout-Out ==

Why the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo? My theory: because it featured James K. Polk, who was the subject of a TMBG song. Of course it's a huge stretch, so I'll just put it here and let you guys laugh.

== 0.999... = 1 ==

The '249.999999' made me think of a certain concept in math, this being that '0.999...' equals 1. Anyone think this is a reference, or am I just putting too much thought into this? I mean, if they rounded the price up to the nearest cent (which is done in cent fractions when they occur in tax, so it presumably would be done here), it'd be $250, so .999999 = 1. I think this deserves at least an 'explanation,' but wanted to ask first and am too lazy really to set up a STUFF at the moment. [[User:Yadaman|Yadaman]] 22:51, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:To continue the mathematical theme, the odds of this being a reference rapidly approach zero. Obscure mathematical concepts do not good comedic references make. An explanation might be more appropriate, but the joke seems pretty self-explanatory to me. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 06:53, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

== Coach Z's Crush on Marzipan ==

How many times has Coach Z talked to or about Marzipan as if he had a crush on her or was dating her? There was the time he drunk-dialed her on the answering machine and this. Are there any more? Is it enough to warrant a page or an inside joke?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 23:19, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
** I could see an argument for setting up a page on Coach Z's and Marzipan's relationship. All in favor? [[User:TJDevil02|TJDevil02]]

== comming back? ==

Is the pink skin of the king of town has anything to with the old idea that he was marzipan's father?
:Probably not. It's speculation. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 23:51, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
::And since when is [[The Brothers Strong|looking like each other]] a sign of being [[Pom Pom's Hypothetical Family|related]] in H*R cartoons anyway? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:55, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Don't forget how there's no where indicating any relation between homestar and homsar... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:03, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

== Actual Publishing Company logo ==

Is the logo for the "Actual Publishing Company" a parody/reference to some other logo? At first, it reminded me of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Press Associated Press'] logo, but upon looking at the real logo, I'm not so sure. The "P" in the logo reminds me of another logo, for some publishing company, IIRC, but which one?

diorama

2007-12-05T15:03:15Z

Homsarian79: Real order of appearace

{{sbenav|184}}
[[Image:Sbemail184.PNG|thumb|"The effects of cumulonimbus clouds on sheep, snowmen, and... cotton balls."]]
Strong Bad gives tips on how to create a "Middle School Appropriate" diorama.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, [[Peanut Strong Bad]], {{Film|Senor Cardgage}} (Easter egg), {{Film|Coach Z}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Gymnasium]] (Easter egg), [[Coach Z's Locker Room]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, December 3, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 3:43

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' I baked you this special email! It has... raisins.

<blockquote class="lappy email">

<div>subject: Diorama</div>
Hey Strong Bad, 
I have to do some crappy, really stupid diorama this year. 
I want it to be bloody and gory, but it has to be "Middle 
School Appropriate", or whatever. Got any tips? 
Molly T. 
Charlotte, N.C.
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad reads "Charlotte, N.C." as "Charlotte, Not Charlotte" and comments, "Whoa, It's like you're no place!"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So you're telling me that Ms. Charbroiledburger, or whoever actually told you to make a crappy, really stupid diorama for an assignment? Now ''that's'' what I call edjakashun!! ''{clears screen}'' No sense in thinking about this one until you're on the bus on the way to school the morning it's due. Then it's time to whip out my old standby-orama:

''{Cut to the desk, where a diorama with pencils, pens, a rubber and a bottle of glue inside falls down}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' The Whimsical World of School Supplies!

''{Cut back to the computer}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' But dioramas shouldn't be wasted, Mollyman. This is probably the only school-approved opportunity to melt small plastic animals and shame our beloved literary characters that you're ever gonna get. I say embrace it! I say deface it!! ''{clears screen}'' Here are my tips: first off, behind every good diorama is an even gooder shoebox. So unless you wanna get called The Stride-Rite Kid for the rest of your life, you better go buy a pair of the

''{Cut to the desk. A red shoebox with "Air Cardgage" white-and-skyblue logo printed on its cover slides in from the right}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' coolest, most expensive shoes on the market.

''{A pricetag with "37899" written on it appears with a ding}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Or at least modify a ''{a lime green shoebox with "Dr. Soft-[[Soolnd]]'s Tan Medical Shoes" written on it slides from the right in front of the Air Cardgage box}'' box of cheapo, generico shoes to look expensive.

''{Strong Sad's hand slaps a piece of paper with "Slam-Dunking" written on it on the shoebox}''

''{Cut out to see the Air Cardgage box, scissors and a hot glue gun. Strong Bad walks in from the right}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now let's talk about topics. If the assignment calls for a science diorama, just slap some glue on some cotton balls and BANG!

''{Cut to the Air Cardgage diorama, where a field and sky has been drawn}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' The effects of cumulonimbus clouds ''{cotton balls appear in the sky, forming a cloud-like shape}'' on sheep, ''{sheep made out of cotton balls appear on the ground}'' snowmen, ''{a snowman made out of cotton balls appears on the right}'' aaaaand... cotton... balls. ''{a pile of cotton balls appear on the left}'' But if you're out of cotton balls, real chunks ''{The cotton balls transform to become more "jaggedy" and some of them gain red stains}'' of the King of Town's beard make a great substitute.

''{A blood trace trickles down from the beardcloud}''

''{Cut to the King Of Town, whose beard has been gruesomely ripped}''

'''KING OF TOWN:''' To be fair, I did eat all the cotton balls.

''{Cut back to the desk with Strong Bad, the Air Cardgage diorama, scissors, hot glue gun, colored paper and glue bottle}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' If you need to make some historical diorama, there's only one way to go: presidential assassinations.

''{Cut close to the desk, where a Dr. Soft-Soolnd's Slam-Dunking Shoes diorama slides in from the left}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' You can immortalize such tragic moments in U.S. history ''{a cardboard White House appears in the background}'' as... the robot that effortlessly offed Jimmy Carter. ''{a robot made out of a toilet paper roll and Jimmy Carter doll made out of a clothespin appear. The robot's lights start to twinkle with computer-like sound effects}'' And if it's a book report diorama you're doing,

''{Cut back to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' the easiest way to get around reading an actual book is to make one up yourself! I can't tell you how many dioramas I got out of

''{Cut to the Air Cardgage diorama, now with a purple sky, a sun and the King Of Town's castle the background plus King Of Town and a half-eaten Swiss Cake Roll in the foreground}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' The King Of Town's Adventures in Giant Cockroachland! ''{a sizeable number of cockroaches swarm around the Swiss Cake Roll, bashing King Of Town down}'' Books one through seven.

''{Cut back to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Though with the internet, it's probably easier for teachers to check your sources than in my day. To get away with that now, you'd also have to make

''{Cut to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' A fake website for the book, ''{a website at www.bookazon.com appears, displaying information about "The King Of Town's Adventures in Giant Cockroachland" by Ronmartin Realdude}'' and the author, ''{a bio and a silhouette with a question mark appear next to the book information}'' and the publisher, ''{a logo for Actual Publishing Company appears in the bottom of the screen}'' and just to be safe, ''{Download the eBook Now -button appears on the screen}'' maybe go ahead and actually write the book.

''{The badly done cover for KoT's Cockroach Book appears}''

''{Cut back to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Man. It's gotten so hard to cheat these days!

''{The Cheat walks past in the background, carrying the Lappy}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{agreeing The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Finally, let me address your concerns about blood and gore. There's an easy loophole to exploit here, Molly. A little something I like to call... uh-dinosaurs. No teacher can argue,

''{Cut to an Air Cardgage diorama, with a prehistoric setting}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' that an Allosaurus ''{an Allosaurus appears}'' tearing apart its prey ''{a rubber duck appears}'' is bound to be pretty gruesome. ''{spaghetti and pasta sauce appears on the duck, on the ground and in the Allosaurus' mouth}'' And if that prey ''{rubber duck disappears}'' just happens to be the signers of The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, ''{a table and four clothespin people appear}'' well that's bound to be pretty messed up too. ''{pasta sauce and spaghetti appears on the people}''

''{Cut back to Strong Bad, looking at his diorama, smiling}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh man, that is too awesome. I gotta get in on that action.

''{Cut back to the prehistoric Air Cardgage diorama}''

''{Peanut Strong Bad walks in, holding a cocktail sword with an olive}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, take that, Nicholas Trist, representative for president James K. Polk! I'll teach you to mess with my Rio Grande! And my Rio Bravo! ''{Peanut Strong Bad pokes and hits Nicholas Trist clothespin}''

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well Mollybdenum, you think you got enough to go on? You're gonna dioRAM their socks off! Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go help that robot vaporize The Old Public Functionary!

''{Strong Bad leaves, geddup noise}''

''{Cut to the green diorama, where the toilet paper robot is shooting a clothespin person. Peanut Strong Bad is standing by him}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Come on, Boltotron! Hit him with the Byoo-Cannon!

''{A toilet paper roll with "Byoo-Cannon" written on it descends from above}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Byoo byo-byoo byoo byo-byo-byoo! ''{the Byoo-Cannon shoots red lights at the clothespin person}''

''{The New Paper comes down}''

==Easter Eggs==
* At the end, click the "Byoo-cannon" to see a clip with Senor Cardgage.
*:'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' ''{holding a shoe in one hand and a basketball in the other}'' Oh. Hello-quialism. ''{looks at what he's holding}'' Who are these guys?
*:''{Cut to an image of the shoe alone}''
*:'''ANNOUNCER''': All new 2008 Air Cardgage! Only 249.99.99.99! ''{A price tag appears with that price on it.}'' Only at Styles Upon Styles!
*:''{Cut back to Senor Cardgage}''
*:'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' This is not what I sagged on for. ''{The words also appear in a speech bubble next to his head.}''

* Also at the end, click Peanut Strong Bad to see a clip of Coach Z holding a notepad with a cell phone drawn on it.
*:'''COACH Z:''' Well hey there Ronmartin Realdude. It's the big Z, just giving you a call on my new cell phone. What's that you say? Well I sure am flattered Ronmartin, but I've already got a gorgeous girlfriend name o' Marzipan.

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*The [[Wikipedia:Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo|Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo]] was the treaty that ended the [[Wikipedia:Mexican-American War|Mexican-American War]]. [[Wikipedia:Nicholas Trist|Nicholas Trist]] was indeed [[Wikipedia:James K. Polk|President Polk's]] representative at the negotiations.
**Strong Bad's comment "I'll teach you to mess with my [[Wikipedia:Rio Grande|Rio Grande]]" references the dispute between Mexico and the United States over the border of Texas which was the alleged cause of the war. Texas claimed the border was the Rio Grande, while Mexico claimed it was the Nueces River.
**The Rio Grande is known as the Rio Bravo in Mexico.
*[[wikipedia:Molybdenum|Molybdenum]] is a lead-like transition metal found in nature. Its symbol on the periodic table of elements is Mo.
* "The Old Public Functionary" was a [[Wikipedia:List of United States Presidential names#15 — James Buchanan|popular nickname]] for [[Wikipedia:James Buchanan|President James Buchanan]].
*Cumulonimbus clouds are a type of cloud that is tall, dense, and involved in thunderstorms and other intense weather.


===Trivia===
*The blurbs on bookazon.com read:
<blockquote>The King of Town's Adventures 
In Giant Cockroachland 
by: Ronmartin Realdude 
<nowiki>--------------</nowiki> 
''A real book that exists.'' 
3 pages. 
copyright 1943?</blockquote>

<blockquote>Download 
the eBook Now!</blockquote>

<blockquote>Actual Publishing Company 
est. 1904</blockquote>

<blockquote>About the author: 
I'm a best-selling author 
and I am NOT a cat!! I write 
books and am a living, 
breathing person, not a cat.</blockquote>


===Remarks===
* Hello-quialism is a [[portmanteau]] of "hello" and "colloquialism".
* This is the first time The King of Town's skin has ever been visible. He apparently has pink flesh and his face is entirely covered in hair.


===Inside References===
*The pieces of the King of Town's beard are stained with [[blood]]. Spaghetti sauce is also used to simulate blood.
*The email talks about several [[presidents]] and [[dinosaurs]].
*The figurine used in The King Of Town's Adventures in Giant Cockroachland diorama is the same one available in the [[Store_Toys#Collectible_Figurines|Store]].
*[[Bookazon.com]] first appeared in [[studying]].
*Coach Z last used an entirely [[Disconnected Telephones|non-functional phone]], complete with imaginary conversation with someone on the other end, in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]].
*In the Senor Cardgage Easter egg, the shoes are sold at [[Styles Upon Styles]].


===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Stride Rite Corporation|Stride Rite]] is a shoe maker of several mid priced brands, such as Keds and Saucony. The Stride-Rite brand is specifically for small children.
*"Air Cardgage" is a play on the [[wikipedia:Air Jordan|Air Jordan]] shoes endorsed by [[wikipedia:Michael Jordan|Michael Jordan]].
*[[Wikipedia:Jimmy Carter|Jimmy Carter]] was the 39th President of the United States of America. Caricatures of Carter frequently emphasize his mouth, lips and teeth.
*The plot device of a robot assassinating Jimmy Carter was also used in the [http://www.shipbrook.com/TheTick/Tick0101.html pilot episode] of the short-lived Fox prime-time show "[[Wikipedia:Tick (comics)#Live-Action Series|The Tick]]".

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|184|13043}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}

Talk:Punkin Stencils

2007-10-22T22:08:32Z

Homsarian79: re:Lights off!

Geez. My Homestar pumpakin looks nothing like it's suppos' to. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

How da heck are you supposed to use this thing? [[User:209.221.24.157|209.221.24.157]] 21:46, 24 Oct 2004 (MST)

Measure your pumpkin and decide how big you can/want to make the carving. Make sure you leave an inch or two on the edge so your pumpkin (in my case, a Cheat O' Lantern!) is stable. Then size the stencil to your measurements and trace the stencil - I used a thick-bladed knife to cut out the stencil while pressed against the pumpkin (thick blade so you can see the cuts). Do the normal pumpkin carving stuff, cut the topp off and clean 'er out. Then cut all the way through your stencil tracings and you've got an H*R Pumpakin! --[[User:Southpaw018|Southpaw018]] 21:58, 24 Oct 2004 (MST)

I was asking about the applet; I've got it figgered out now, though. I think it doesn't work in Mozilla, because when I do that, it automatically jumps to a blank sheet diagram, and none of the buttons work. It works in IE. [[User:209.221.24.143|209.221.24.143]] 14:34, 25 Oct 2004 (MST)

I got it fine with Firefox. Of course, my pukpkin doesn't look that fine. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

Can somebody please tell me hw to get here from the '''actual website''' (homestarrunner.com)? --[[User:Darklinkskywalker|Darklinkskywalker]] 18:36, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It's not on there anymore. It used to be linked from the main page on "What's new?" Last Halloween.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 11:03, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Ohhhhhhhh.. so it's a secret page. In that case, Im'a go add it to thhe secret pages list now. --[[User:Darklinkskywalker|Darklinkskywalker]] 21:19, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Sigh if only i had pumpkins to carve if only i coulc celebrate halloween--[[User:Ed500|Ed500]] 12:34, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Hey, can anybody tell me what the Homestar Running, The Cheat, and Homestar's face o' lanterns look like, and which one they would reccomend? --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]

==Lights off!==
Is it just me or does pressing Ctrl-L seem to turn out the lights so that you can see the jack o'lanterns lit up in all their glory?

:Yep, true that. I just added it to the Easter eggs section. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

i don't understand...it says (in the easter eggs section) pressing L turns the lights out. i tried it and it doesn't do anything. above it says Ctrl-L...i tried that too and it didn't work. what's up? am i doing something wrong? --[[User:StrongBad110990|StrongBad110990]] 21:14, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Make sure you are clicked on the flash part of the page, not the outside. Then try L. --{{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}}

Also, it doesn't work in the 2004 mirror file. [[User:Homsarian79|Homsarian79]] 22:08, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

==Punkin Stencils?==

It appears that [[TBC]], following the likes of [[Decemberween]] and [[Labor Dabor]], have named the pumpkin stencils ''punkin stencils''. Anybody think this page could use a move, or at least a redirect, and perhaps a meantion on the article opening. Any suggestions? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:56, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
:That's not a bad idea. All of the references in the Flash coding say "punkin" instead of "pumpkin". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:25, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
::It seems like there's not TOO too many links to the page, so I'm gonna go ahead and move it to [[Punkin Stencils]], and leave this as a redirect. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:08, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

=='04 link==

Does anybody know of a mirror of the '04 version we could link to under external links? Might be a nice addition. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:24, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
:I have a local copy on my hard drive that I can easily host on a mirror site. I'll go ahead and add an external link to the Shockwave Flash file. Nice thinking, T-Bird. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 23:52, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

==Original Release Date?==

I didn't see it in our list of updates. Does anybody know when the first version was released? '03? '02? '01? Ever? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:31, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

== Another Glitch ==

If you click on one of the pumpkins then exit the stencil editor the pumpkin you clicked on stays big(Like when you hold the cursor over it.). You can get every pumpkin to be large by doing the same thing to every pumpkin.

== Organization ==

I think this page should be split into more distinct sections, almost like it was two or more pages presented back-to-back. Perhaps a table or something for the different years. I dunno, it's late and I'm tired, so I'm just brainstorming before I go to sleep. The conveyor section should list all the punkins, in order, without referring to the other years. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:18, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
: Yeah, definitely, right now it doesn't provide enough distinction between the sections -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 13:59, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
::I agree. With all that. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 14:33, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

== Inside References ==

Is a reference to [[Make-o Your Own Stink-o]] worth referencing or is it too speculatory? I also thought of adding a [[portrait]] reference, but the animation is too different from that email's carving scene. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:27, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Fluffy Puff Marshmallows

2007-10-19T17:18:14Z

Homsarian79: /* Breakfast, lunch, munch, and pinner! */

Fron where is that real bag of Fluffy Puffs? {{User:E.L._Cool/sig}}

:Israel, apparently... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 07:16, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::On the history of this page [[User:Jay|Jay]] says this is from a sighting page, but I couldn't find which one. {{User:E.L._Cool/sig}}

I've just discovered that FreshDirect in New York City carries them. http://www.freshdirect.com/category.jsp?catId=gro_candy_candy&prodCatId=gro_candy_candy&productId=gro_fllfypfs_mshmllw&trk=srch

== Breakfast, lunch, munch, and pinner! ==

Is it really necessary to discuss the different ways to serve Fluffy Puff Marshmallows? It's just a joke that was in one cartoon and never referenced again. I think we should delete that section. {{unsigned|Aaronak|21:26, 20 November 2006}}
:No, it should stay. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:03, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Is it just me, or does the alleged maple syrup look suspiciously like [[chocolate]] syrup? [[User:Homsarian79|Homsarian79]] 17:18, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

== explanation ==
Plz don't delete, it's a real [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger%21_High_Voltage]] and thought it might be befiiting of a cartoon full of 80's references. - [[http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Haysi_fantayzee Haysi fantayzee]] from fanstuff wiki

Main Page 11

2007-10-12T14:28:23Z

Homsarian79: /* Inside References */

{{mainnav|11|10|12}}
[[Image:main11.png|thumb|220px|Homestar Runner—ACTION NEWS]]

Homestar hosts his own news broadcast.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}

'''Places:''' A newsroom

'''Icon:''' Channel 4 logo

'''Page Title:''' "More News at 11!"

==Button Effects==
[[Image:Weather.PNG|thumb|220px|"Today's forecast is total crap!"]]
*'''[[TV Time Toons Menu|Toons]]''' — [[:Wikipedia:Character generator|Chyron-style]] text "Homestar Runner—Action News" appears in the [[Wikipedia:Lower thirds|lower third]].
*'''[[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games]]''' — The lights in the buildings in the background disappear, and new lights appear in one of the buildings to form a star.
*'''[[Character Videos|Characters]]''' — Some "over the shoulder" headlines and pictures appear. Cycles through four possible headlines.
:*"More than 2 Problems???" set against Coach Z's medallion with a picture of Coach Z's head.
:*"I Shoulda Won All Those Times!" set against a picture of Strong Bad's head with a smaller copy of the image in the foreground.
:*"[[Melonade]]: Over $2 per gallon?" set against a picture of three glasses of melonade with straws and ice.
:*"Seriously, I Really Shoulda Won All Those Times!" with the same picture as the second story.
*'''[[Downloads]]''' — Cut to Strong Bad standing in front of a weather screen depicting the east of the United States, scattered with sun and rain symbols. He says, "Today's forecast is total [[Crap|crap!]]"
*'''[[Store]]''' — Some smoke appears, coming from one of the buildings.
*'''[[Email]]''' — The H*R logo is projected onto the night sky.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*This, [[Main Page 7]] and [[Main Page 23]] are the only main pages where Homestar does not stand to the extreme right of the screen.
*The "Channel 4" logo that appears at the lower-right corner of the screen is called a ''[[Wikipedia:Digital On-screen Graphic|bug]]''.
*This main page is page 11 - and the title states "More news at 11!".

===Remarks===
*The [[font]] for the Chyron-style text and the over-the-shoulder headlines used to be [[Wikipedia:Gill Sans|Gill Sans]] (as seen in [http://www.hrwiki.org/images/archive/d/d4/20060819031517%21main11.png this screenshot]), but the current version of Main Page 11 uses the [[Wikipedia:Arial|Arial]] font instead.
*Strong Bad seems to have his old drawing style while everyone else has the current drawing style.

===Glitches===
*After removing your mouse from the Downloads button, you will see a quick flash of a blank screen of the copyright and main menu links.

===Inside References===
*"More than 2 Problems???" is a reference to [[Who Said What Now?]].
*Strong Bad's face when you move your mouse over characters ("I shoulda won all those times!") is similar in style (but not color) to the one on the [[Strong Bad 404 Error Page|Old Error Page]].

===Real-World References===
*The projection of the H*R logo onto the sky is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Bat-Signal|Bat-Signal]] from the [[Batman]] franchise.
*The comment on Melonade being 'over $2 a gallon' is a play on the rising gasoline prices around the world, and the ways news sources report them.
*Channel 4 Action News is a possible reference to [http://www.wsbtv.com/index.html Channel 2 Action News], an [[Wikipedia:Atlanta, Georgia|Atlanta]] news program.
*"More News At 11" refers to the fact that late newscasts in the Eastern and Pacific time zones often broadcast at 11:00pm.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:main11.html|go to Main Page 11]]
*[[HR:main11.swf|view the Flash file for Main Page 11]]

{{Main Page}}

{{subtitlesLinks|main11}}

[[Category:Main Pages]]

H*R.com updates 2007

2007-09-20T15:53:18Z

Homsarian79:

{{updates-box}}
This is a log of all of the '''updates''' to '''[[Homestar Runner (body of work)|H*R.com]]''' during '''2007'''.

==Thursday, September 20, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-09-20|"Oh. I guess I forgort to port. Oh! I guess I forgat to prat! OH! Gorka fa pork!"]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-09-20|"Somewhere in Kuwait"]]

==Tuesday, September 18, 2007==
*[[Store]]: [[Store T-Shirts#tshirt sloshy|Sloshy T-Shirt]]

==Monday, September 17, 2007==
*[[Toons#Shorts|Short]]: [[Limozeen vs. Sloshy]]

==Thursday, September 13, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-09-13|"Frosty? Flurry."]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-09-13|tgs 360 faceplate]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-09-13|he got craiged.]]

==Monday, September 10, 2007==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #178: [[bike thief]]

==Thursday, September 6, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-09-06|"Oh. I should eat a pony."]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-09-06|Cold ones carton collage]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-09-06|ob - Original Bubs]]
*[[Store]]: [[Store Accessories#Tote Bags|Trogdor Tote Bag]]

==Monday, September 3, 2007==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #177: [[original]]

==Saturday, September 1, 2007==
*[[Store]]: [[Store Posters#poster_trogdor|Trogdor Poster]]

==Thursday, August 30, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-08-30|"We don't really even care about you. Get out of my backyard or maybe don't. Cause I'm about to watch a movie movie movie oh!"]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-08-30|armored core 4 logo]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-08-30|shoving right orf]]

==Monday, August 27, 2007==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #176: [[hygiene]]

==Thursday, August 23, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-08-23|"Yeah, I don't think Sloshy could arpeggiate a diminished 7th if their philosophy degrees depended on it."]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-08-23|trading card game]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-08-23|ooh. AH!]]

==Monday, August 20, 2007==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #175: [[concert]]

==Thursday, August 16, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-08-16|"I'm gonna be so far under par, I'm gonna be over par!"]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-08-16|you can't destroy me!]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-08-16|eh! steve! for birdie]]

==Monday, August 13, 2007==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #174: [[mini-golf]]
*[[Scroll Button Song]]: "Control your scrolls. Click and hold with scroll buttons."
*[[Store]]: [[Store_Front_Page_News_2007#August_13.2C_2007|Back to school sale]]

==Thursday, August 9, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-08-09|"That would be a sweet deal I couldn't resist! N-E-S-T-L-E-S!"]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-08-09|cool trogdor sculpture]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-08-09|sooo trogmopolitan]]

==Tuesday, August 7, 2007==
*[[Toons#Shorts|Short]]: [[Quality Time]]
*[[Main Page message]]: ''sbemails return next week!''

==Tuesday, July 24, 2007==
*[[Main Pages|Main Page]] #24: "[[Main Page 24|20/200!]]"

==Monday, July 23, 2007==
*[[Store]]: [[Store Front Page News 2007#July 23, 2007|Toy sale]]

==Monday, July 16, 2007==
*[[Videlectrix]]: [[Where's an Egg?]]

==Monday, July 2, 2007==
*[[Main Page message]]: ''[[:Image:Real Baby Lady Message.png|takin' a baby break]]''
:Clicking on the button reveals the following pop-up message:
<blockquote>The [[Jackie Chapman|real baby lady]] 
had a real baby so 
updates may be scarce 
for a few weeks. 
 
''{sprite of the [[Baby Lady & Her Baby|Baby Lady]] rocking her baby}'' 
 
>DON'T [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough#DRESS Like a Peasant|throw baby]]!</blockquote>

==Tuesday, June 26, 2007==
*[[Toons#Shorts|Short]]: [[Ever and More!]]

==Monday, June 25, 2007==
*[[Main Page message]]: ''short toon soon!''

==Thursday, June 21, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-06-21|"Garbage disposal: what a way to go! Garbage disposal, meet So and So."]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-06-21|the cheatz-it]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-06-21|please stop feeding us]]

==Monday, June 18, 2007==
*[[Teen Girl Squad]]: [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 13|Issue 13]] 

==Thursday, June 14, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-06-14|"I love longitudes. Not me, I'm a latitude snob."]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-06-14|old cool fan art]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-06-14|tgs 11 outtake]]

==Monday, June 11, 2007==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #173: [[the paper]]

==Thursday, June 7, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-06-07|"So what are you saying? That you -GULP- want his bod?"]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-06-07|prison tattoo]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-06-07|gutslap practice]]

==Tuesday, June 5, 2007==
*[[Store]]: [[strongbad_email.exe]] [[strongbad_email.exe Disc Five|Disc Five]] [[Store Front Page News 2007#June 5, 2007|for sale]]
*[[Store]]: [[Store T-Shirts#tshirt_you_reeka|You Reek-A! T-shirt]]

==Monday, May 28, 2007==
*[[Toons#Shorts|Short]]: [[One Two, One Two]]

==Thursday, May 24, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-05-24|"Do not attempt to adjust those trucker caps you're all wearing. Or wait, in fact, DO adjust them. Everybody turn your trucker caps sidewise!"]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-05-24|homebrew poptire ds]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-05-24|fightin' coach z's]]

==Wednesday, May 23, 2007==
*[[Store]]: [[Store Hooded Sweatshirts#hoodie_trogdor_zipup|Trogdor zip-up hoodie]]
*[[Store]]: [[Store Front Page News 2007#May 23, 2007|Hoodie sale]]

==Monday, May 21, 2007==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #172: [[more armies]]

==Thursday, May 17, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-05-17|"There was this little worm and I brought him inside because he seemed like he would fit into a little jar. And I gave him the name of Fat Albert."]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-05-17|My flip-flop got stole!]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-05-17|no sign of Dan Towelman]]

==Tuesday, May 15, 2007==
*[[Toons#Big Toons|Toon]]: [[DNA Evidence]]
*[[Store]]: [[Store Front Page News 2007#May 15, 2007|Strong Bad sale]]

==Monday, May 14, 2007==
*[[Main Page message]]: ''new toon soon''

==Friday, May 11, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-05-11|"Did you just say parakeet?"]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-5-11|cheatar hero controler]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-05-11|connect the dots]]

==Monday, May 7, 2007==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #171: [[underlings]]

==Thursday, May 3, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-05-03|"We deserve a break! Everyone grab a spoon and take a break with pudding."]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-05-03|li'l brudder doggie dish]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-05-03|sbemail 169 storyboard]]

==Monday, April 30, 2007==
*[[Toons#Shorts|Short]]: [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]]

==Before Friday, April 27, 2007==
*Who Said What? updated to [[Who Said What Now?]], with [[Homsar]] included.

==Thursday, April 26, 2007==
*[[Interviews and Public Appearances]]: [[Georgia Tech - 26 Apr 2007|Georgia Tech Talk]]
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-04-26|"Oh, hello guys! This is my talk and mouth move. Great times!"]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-04-26|treggdor the yolkinator]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-04-26|date nite the cheats]]
*[[Podstar Runner]]: [[An Important Rap Song]]

==Tuesday, April 24, 2007==
*[[Toons#Big Toons|Big Toon]]: [[Date Nite]]

==Monday, April 23, 2007==
*[[Main Page message]]: ''new toon soon''

==Friday, April 20, 2007==
*[[Store]]: [[Store_Baby_Clothes#tshirt_the_poopsmith_onesie|Poopsmith baby clothes]]

==Thursday, April 19, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-04-19|"Drinko some Malinko! Malinko flavored water! Crystal clear like domestic beer!"]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-04-19|blue laser escape sub]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-04-19|rough copy rough drafts]]

==Monday, April 16, 2007==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #170: [[rough copy]]

==Thursday, April 12, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-04-12|"These hardly qualify as PANTS!"]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-04-12|just add water!]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-04-12|the schwasmith]]
*[[Store]]: [[Store Front Page News 2007#April 12, 2007|Hoodie clearance]]

==Monday, April 9, 2007==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #169: [[from work]]
*[[Eggs (toon)|Eggs]]
*[[Main Page message]]: ''email soon'' (Button links to [[Eggs (toon)|Eggs]])

==Thursday, April 5, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-04-05|"Sever your leg, please. It's the greatest day."]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-04-05|marshie plushie]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-04-05|blaaah'm crack stuntman]]
*[[Podstar Runner]]: [[These peoples try to fade me]]

==Monday, April 2, 2007==
*[[Store]]: Footer changed to [[Store#Store Footer|spring]] theme.
*[[Store]]: [[Store Front Page News 2007#April 2, 2007|Pistols for Pandas T-Shirt]]

==Monday, March 26, 2007==
*[[Toons#Shorts|Short]]: [[An Important Rap Song]]

==Thursday, March 22, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-03-22|"Ooh hoo ha ha haaa. Brother in a jar. Brother in a jar. Brotherinajar!"]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-03-22|stinkomural]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-03-22|drive thrus]]
*[[Podstar Runner]]: [[mile]]

==Monday, March 19, 2007==
*[[Toons#Shorts|Short]]: [[Drive-Thru]]
*[[Store]]: [[Store Front Page News 2007#March 19, 2007|10% off sale]]

==Thursday, March 15, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-03-15|"I've had it up to HERE with your shinoligans! If you could see me you'd see that I'm holding my hand up to my chin. And I'm pretty tall!"]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-03-15|stained glasstar]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-03-15|teen track squad]]
*[[Podstar Runner]]: [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 12]]

==Tuesday, March 13, 2007==
*[[Viidelectrix|Wii]] versions of [[TROGDOR!]] and [[Duck Guardian One]] removed

==Monday, March 12, 2007==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #168: [[your funeral]]
*[[Game]]: [[TROGDOR!]] for [[Viidelectrix|Wii]]
*[[Game]]: [[Duck Guardian One]] for [[Viidelectrix|Wii]]
*[[Videlectrix]]: main page message update (regarding [[Viidelectrix]]); Link to "Games for Wii" on sidebar
*[[Main Page message]]: ''email soon'' (button linked to [[404'd]] page of sbemail168.html)
*[[Store]]: [[Store Front Page News 2007#March 12, 2007|Senor Cardgage T-Shirt]]

==Thursday, March 8, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-03-08|"Woo! What is that reek? The Poopsmith, you smell like a Crapsmith."]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-03-08|matching tgs tattoos]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-03-08|entirely untrue]]
*[[Podstar Runner]]: [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]]

==Monday, March 5, 2007==
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine]]: [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2|Version 14.2]]

==Thursday, March 1, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-03-01|"I wonder how you spell tabasco. TABASCOooo!"]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-03-01|homebrew figurine]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-03-01|lacelift strong bad with cheatpelt ponytail]]
*[[Podstar Runner]]: [[theme song]]
*[[Podstar Runner|podcast]] added to the [[HR:main_nav.swf|navbar]].

==Monday, February 26, 2007==
*[[Toons#Shorts|Short]]: [[KOT's VOQPCS!]]
*[[Main Page message]]: ''new toon soon''
*[[Store]]: [[Store Front Page News 2007#February 26, 2007|Everything Else DVD combo]]
*[[Viidelectrix|Wii Games]] added to [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]]

==Thursday, February 22, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-02-22|"You and me, babe, livin for dreams, lifin' for love, drinkin' for free. Sittin' on top of an old robot, sharin' and carin' it out. The memory's scrubbin' you down!"]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-02-22|teen mii squad!]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-02-22|melon headed babies]]
*[[Podstar Runner]]: [[highschool]]

==Tuesday, February 20, 2007==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #167: [[the movies]]

==Monday, February 19, 2007==
*[[Main Page message]]: ''email soon'' (button links to [[Strong Bad Email]] menu)

==Thursday, February 15, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-02-15|"2-3-4. What time is it? It's Valentimes. What time is it? It's Valentimes. What we gone get? Several boys! How we gonna get em? Uh...um...er..."]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-02-15|homestar's slippers!]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-02-15|no handed style!]]
*[[Podstar Runner]]: [[animal]]

==Monday, February 12, 2007==
*[[Teen Girl Squad]]: [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 12|Issue 12]]
*[[Store]]: [[Store Front Page News 2007#February 12, 2007|T-Shirt Closeout Sale]]
*[[TV Time Toons Menu|Toons Menu]]: "[[New Stuff]]" video replaces one of the [[Joy of Painting]] videos.

==Thursday, February 8, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-02-08|"King Bubsgonzola King-King Bubsgonzola Supreme"]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-02-08|homestar skinnyplush]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-02-08|two handed style!]]
*[[Podstar Runner]]: [[Cheat Commandos (toon)|Cheat Commandos Toys]]

==Monday, February 5, 2007==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #166: [[unnatural]]
*[[Main Page message]]: ''email soon''

==Thursday, February 1, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-02-01|"Word booty!"]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-02-01|make your own playsets & toys!]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-02-01|crushed by a cup of coffee]]
*[[Podstar Runner]]: [[haircut]]
*[[Store]]: [[Store Front Page News 2007#February 1, 2007|Valentine's Day Kick The Cheat sale]]

==Monday, January 29, 2007==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #165: [[strong badathlon]]

==Sunday, January 28, 2007==
*[[Main Page message]]: ''email soon''
*[[Main Page message]]: ''wii owners!''
<blockquote>
{| border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style="text-align:center"
|-
| The guys at Videlectrix have
|-
| reworked a few of your
|-
| favorite games to use on
|-
| your favorite Wave-Around
|-
| Controller Game System!
|-
| 
|-
| Point your Wii Browser here:
|-
|[[videlectrix:vii/|www.videlectrix.com/vii/]]
|}
</blockquote>
*[[Videlectrix]]: [[Viidelectrix]]

==Monday, January 22, 2007==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #164: [[looking old]]
*[[Scroll Button Song]]: "Look around, I think you'll find that these buttons are the scrolling kind."
*[[Store]]: [[Store Front Page News 2007#January 22, 2007|Teen Girl Squad sale]]

==Sunday, January 21, 2007==
*[[Store]]: Footer changed to [[Store#Store Footer|winter]] theme.

==Thursday, January 18, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-01-18|"I can't remember cereal, I can't remember TV. Is it football season yet? I don't even watch football. I hate football but I'll play football. Run you over in football..."]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-01-18|i'm sad that i'm a diaper]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-01-18|zzzzziiiiiiiip!]]
*[[Podstar Runner]]: [[technology]]

==Monday, January 15, 2007==
*[[Main Page message]]: ''sbemails return next week!''

==Sunday, January 14, 2007==
*[[Store]]: [[Store Front Page News 2007#January 14, 2007|Trogdor fourth birthday sale]]
*[[Main Pages]] copyright date changed from 2006 to 2007 (except for [[Main Page 23|"Backstage Pass"]] main page).

==Thursday, January 11, 2007==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-01-11|"Crabadonk. Crabadonk! CRABADONK!"]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#WF-2007-01-11|it's the trog trog b'loon]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-01-11|fightgar in the whatsit]]
*[[Podstar Runner]]: [[replacement]]

==Thursday, January 4, 2007==
*[[Store]]: [[Store Front Page News 2007#January 4, 2007|Bear Holding a Shark T-shirt and sweatshirt sale]]
__NOTOC__
[[Category: Regular Updates]]

Dolph Hauldhagen

2007-09-20T15:24:08Z

Homsarian79:

[[Image:Dolph_Haudhagen_The_Instruct-TOR.PNG|right|thumb|225px|Call "555-4AXE" to boost your confidence and deadliness.]]
'''Dolph Hauldhagen''' is [[Strong Bad]]'s supposed [[Wikipedia:Battle axe|battle axeing]] "Instruc-TOR" who wears a [[horned helmet]]. He teaches his art on Saturdays from 6am to 9am at the Community Rec Center, and another class Wednesdays at 6pm in Monty Gym.

He appears on a flyer for his lessons. The flyer is titled "BAD AT BATTLE AXEING???" and requests joiners to "''Please bring your own battle axe and an exercise mat.''"

This is really just [[Mike Chapman]], but with an axe head photoshopped onto a puppet stand.

There is also a ''Sir'' Dolph Hauldhagen who apparently writes the teleplay for Strong Bad emails, as seen in [[theme song]]. It is unclear if the two are related, unrelated, or, in fact, the same person.

He also bears a striking resemblance to [[Thy Dungeonman (character)]]

==Appearances==

* '''Debut:''' Email [[other days]]
*Email [[theme song]] (credited as teleplay author)
*[[Lappynapped!]] (Easter egg)

[[Category: Characters]]

Dolph Hauldhagen

2007-09-20T15:21:24Z

Homsarian79: small addition

[[Image:Dolph_Haudhagen_The_Instruct-TOR.PNG|right|thumb|225px|Call "555-4AXE" to boost your confidence and deadliness.]]
'''Dolph Hauldhagen''' is [[Strong Bad]]'s supposed [[Wikipedia:Battle axe|battle axeing]] "Instruc-TOR" who wears a [[horned helmet]]. He teaches his art on Saturdays from 6am to 9am at the Community Rec Center, and another class Wednesdays at 6pm in Monty Gym.

He appears on a flyer for his lessons. The flyer is titled "BAD AT BATTLE AXEING???" and requests joiners to "''Please bring your own battle axe and an exercise mat.''"

This is really just [[Mike Chapman]], but with an axe head photoshopped onto a puppet stand.

There is also a ''Sir'' Dolph Hauldhagen who apparently writes the teleplay for Strong Bad emails, as seen in [[theme song]]. It is unclear if the two are related, unrelated, or, in fact, the same person.

He also bears a striking resemblance to the title character of [[Thy Dungeonman]]

==Appearances==

* '''Debut:''' Email [[other days]]
*Email [[theme song]] (credited as teleplay author)
*[[Lappynapped!]] (Easter egg)

[[Category: Characters]]

Thy Dungeonman 3 Commands

2007-09-15T16:20:51Z

Homsarian79: /* Hag Area */

__NOTOC__
==Synonyms==
The game has a built in list of synonyms that allow different words to be used for the same command. For example, "look coins" and "look gold" would have the same effect, as "coins" and "gold" are synonyms.

===General===
*stuff, things, junk, items
*go in, enter
*attack, kill, assault, maul, punch, kick
*talk, speak, converse
*go, walk, travel, run
*take, get, acquire, grab
*give, offer, gift
*door, doorway
*inv, inventory, stuff
*blood, catsup, ketchup, condiment
*glove, gauntlet
*gold, coin, coins, money
*remove, take off, drop
*floor, ground, earth
*store, shoppe, building, joint

===Spike Room===
*ropes, rope, twine, binding, string
*skeleton, skull
*claws, claw

===Crossroads===
*crossroads, roads, crossroad, road
*bushes, bush, tree, trees, flora
*grass, weeds

===Sanctum===
*pedastal, pedastel, pedastle, pedestle
*column, columns, pillar, pillars ''{only when in sanctum the first time}''

===Outside Monastery===
*monastery, monestary, monastary, church, chapel, steeple, building, house
*rock, stone, rocks, stones, pebbles

===Inside Monastery/Cauldron===
*monastery, church, chapel, steeple, building, house
*stein, stien, mug, cup, beer, drink
*cauldron, caldron, pot
*monk, friar, dude, guy, man, fatty, fatman, gordo, mound
*[[ham]], meat, food ''{inside monastery only}''
*potatoes, carrots, vegetables, chunks, food, potato, carrot, stew, broth ''{in cauldron only}''

===Overlook===
*cart, wagon, wheelbarrow
*guy, dude, person, man, vcd
*village, westerberg, westerburg, town, buildings
*steal, nab, pilfer, swipe
*corn, vegetable, vegetables

===Empty Area===
*capital letters, letters, words, hints
*flyer, paper, note

===Stone Bridge===
*stream, brook, river, water
*kill, push
*jump in, swim, dive

===Hag Area===
*hag, witch, lady, woman, chic
*scrapbook, book, handbook, album, photos, crapbook
*frog, rabbit, toad, animal, amphibian, lizard, creature
*eyeball, eye
*mug, cup, glass, stein, drink, coffee
*controller, paddle, joystick, n64, joystik, joypad, gamepad, dprint, nintendo, 64, game, console
*woods, trees, tree
*1, one
*2, two
*3, three
*4, four
*wensleydire, a, frog, 1
*rottenscab, b, eyeball, 2
*blood area, c, controller, 3
*zork, d, mug, 4

===Pub===
*guy, dude, cleaner, man, bartender, barkeep, keep, barman
*keg, barrel, jug
*bottles, bottle, containers, glasses, shelves
*ask for, order, buy, get
*drink, mead, ale, beer, bier, swill

===Sandwich Shoppe===
*sign, signage, poster, info
*shop, shoppe, store
*window, glass
*break, smash
*guy, dude, person, cleaner, man, dcd, dcg

===Tavern===
*ask for, order, buy
*kiga, kigalonian
*drink, beer, mead, ale
*toughs, jerks, men, man, dudes, guys, people, fellows, lady, girl, woman, women, ladies, girls

===Clearing===
*mountain, mountains, hill, hills, background
*skull, skulls, bone, bones, skeleton
*tree, trees, bushes, bush, flora

== Commands ==
When it comes to synonyms, some are not listed in the master list and are unique to the code segment. This will be shown as Action/Other Action/etc.

=== E ===
*'''"Eat/Drink _____":'''
**'''Ketchup:'''
***(if you have the ketchup) Bad idea. It doesn't kill you right now or anything. But that stuff art full of cholesterol and leads to a fairly unhealthy death much later in life. Translation: do something else with the ketchup. Thou art dead. Thanks, but no thanks.

=== J ===
*'''"Jam ______":'''
**'''Walls:'''
***(In spike room) With what? With thy own body? That will happen anyway.

=== K ===
*'''"Kill _____":'''
**'''Bird:'''
***(if you are in the same area as the bird) Ye can't take anymore and try to silence the bird forever. As it pecks out the first eye ye thinks to yeself, "This is not going well." Things continue in similar, gruesome fashion until thou art seriously pecked through. Thou art dead. Try better next time.
***(if the bird has flown away) Thy bird has taken off for greener pastures.
***(if you don't have the bird) There is no bird here. Try one of the other rooms, like one with the word BIRD in the description.

=== L ===
*'''"Look _____":'''
**'''Bird:'''
***(if you have the bird) Ol Picky has found a never-ending feast of corn in thy ear. Truly an ugly bird. And the sounds it doth make! Ye can taketh the morbling. It's the ganching that really cheeses thee off.
***(if the bird has flown away) Thou sort of misses that old bird. The corn in thy ear is starting to build up.
***(if you don't have the bird) There is no bird here. Try one of the other rooms, like one with the word BIRD in the description.
**'''Bread:''' ''{also "get bread", "talk breadman" and "use bread"}''
***Thou art very good at the Instruction Screen. In fact, ye wins. Now start playing Thy Dungeonman 3 again.
**'''Coins:'''
***(if you have coins) It's all about the ... who the heck is that on these coins?
***(if you used coins) Gosh you miss those coins.
**'''Corn:'''
***(if you have corn) It's... wait for it... an earful.
**'''Door:'''
***(if there is a Dungeon Door in the same area as you) Tis a dungeon door, thou art sure of it! Ye can almost hear that flask laughing at thee from within.
***(if there is no Dungeon Door in sight) Nope. Not hear.
**'''Glove:'''
***(if you have glove) Boy art thou ever gonna get ye some flask with this thing!
**'''Ketchup:'''
***(if you have ketchup) Thou starts to feel woozy, but then thou realizes the ketchup is fake.
**'''Map:''' ''{also "read map"}''
***(if you have map) The crusty map contains filthy directions for traversing the woods to an old hag's house. Like most things in thy inventory, it smells.
**'''Stein:'''
***(if you have stein) Looketh like a Franken Brand stein.

=== O ===
*'''"Open _____":'''
**'''Door/Dungeon:''' ''{also "go in door/dungeon"}''
***''{You go into the sanctum.}''

=== P ===
*'''"Put _____":'''
**'''Ketchup Head/Self:''' ''{only works if you have/had ketchup, also "pour ketchup" and "use ketchup"}''
***(first time) Ye taps the bottle and twists the cap, dumping the thick ketchup all o'er thy head. Perhaps twill help dread thy hair like ye wanted in middle dungeonschool. '''+2 points'''
***(if you already did it) Done that already. Think up something new to type.

=== Q ===
*'''"Quit":'''
**''{no parameters}''
***Sends you to http://www.videlectrix.com.

=== R ===
*'''"Remove _____":'''
**'''Glove:''' ''{only works if you have glove}''
***(if wearing glove) Naw, it makes ye feel tough. Not Kigalonian tough, but tough nonetheless.
***(if not wearing glove) Thou haventh eventh puth ith on yeth!

=== T ===
*'''"Take _____":'''
**'''Door:'''
***(if there is a Dungeon Door in the same area as you) The village idiot could do better than thee.

=== U ===
*'''"Use _____":'''
**'''Glove:''' ''{only works if you have glove, also "wear glove", "put on glove" and "put glove on"}''
***(if you are wearing glove) Thou art already wearing it. Wear it down.
***(if you aren't wearing glove) Ye slips the unfortunately moist flask getting glove onto thy hand. Tis a perfect fit! That flask won't know what getted it! '''+1 point'''
**'''Ketchup:''' ''{only works if you have/had ketchup}''
***(if you haven't used ketchup) How dost thou wish to use the fake ketchup?
***(if you have used ketchup) Thy fake ketchup is spent already.
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Pom Pom's Girls

2007-09-12T01:12:33Z

Homsarian79: /* Complete Filmography */

[[Image:Pom Girls.PNG|thumb|150px|Three favorites]]

'''Pom Pom's girls''' are [[Pom Pom]]'s 27 girlfriends. Pom Pom is often seen talking to them on [[Cell Phone|his cell phone]] (and likely his [[Pom Pilot]]). The girls have the orange, oval heads of [[Poms]], but the bodies of humans.

Despite having a Pom head, the girls giggle in a human voice, rather than the bubbling noises used by Pom Pom.
==Complete Filmography==
*'''Debut:''' [[Homestarloween Party]]
*[[Pom Pom#Character Video Transcript|Pom Pom's character video]]
*Email [[boring (really)]] (Easter egg)
*[[Decemberween Short Shorts]]
*[[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] (Conjectural)

[[Category:Inside Jokes]]
[[Category:Characters]]