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Talk:Halloween Potion-ma-jig

2005-11-08T05:41:28Z

Hysterical Woman: add question about Strong Sad

==Odd beeping noise==

Did anyone else notice kind of a high pitch squeaky noises at various parts inbetween the sections?

== Location, location, location! ==

In Majora's Mask, there was a sidequest involving four deku scrubs in various locations. You needed to get the title deeds and trade with them. I can't remember but it is possible they used the phrase in all this. Makes sense considering the Tingle costume. --[[User:Bacon warrior|Bacon warrior]] 20:51, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

:They didn't [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

:: The phrase has not only been used in contexts that have nothing whatsoever to do with The Legend of Zelda, but the sidequest in question did not involve Tingle in any way (in spite of the fact that it was in Tingle's first game). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:30, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

==A couple of transcript points==

Sounds to me more like Bubs says MAYBE you got a witch's brew goin'. Also, it sounds more like Marzipan says Homestar [[Wikipedia:Michael Winner|Michael Winner]], but that's just silly :P Also also, does Coach Z's comment on mailmen make any sense to anybody?

:The relevance of "baby" is described in Fun Facts. Coach Z's comment was an unexpected twist to the conversation he seemed to be having with Pom Pom - up until the word "mailmen" it sounded more like they were talking about women (IMHO). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:30, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

::I thought he said "male men" the first time, but that doesn't really make much sense either. By the way, having listened to that clip quite a few times through halfdecent headphones, I still say Bubs says MAYBE, even if it is a reference...

:::Maybe Marzipan was talking 'bout [[Homeschool Winner|This Micheal]]. It sounds like it to me.--[[User:68.239.117.11|68.239.117.11]] 12:38, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

::::Somebody noted the following in an abortive Real-World Reference:
*[[Wikipedia:Michael_Winner|Michael Winner]] is a British movie director who directed the first [[Wikipedia:Death Wish|Death Wish]] movie, among others. He celebrated his 70th birthday two days before this cartoon aired.

::::The use of "Michael" here as Homestar's nickname, to those familiar with the above director, might suggest a leap to "Winner," thus Homeschool Winner. In an even trickier twist, the words immediately preceding are "you '''win'''!" All this is pure conjecture, of course, and shouldn't be included in the article, but I find the possibility intriguing. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:29, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

==Now that IS scary==
Holy freaking cow. No wonder it was taking them such a long time. This is gonna be a nightmare (in a good way) to wiki, what with the Inside Ref.s and the Real World Ref.s and the like... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:37, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Quick, find whoever did [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]'s transcript and let them have a go here... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:P.S. May I also not say that I am not, in any way, mean. --[[User:DorianGray|My real name is Sean]]
::That was [[User:Krem|Krem]]. Yes, I actually bothered to go to the old wiki, look it up (which was really easy since the credit is given at the bottom of the page), and then checked that user name against the current user list here. 'Twas the same person. (Of course it helped that right there on his/her current user page it says: "I did about 2/3 of the transcript for The House that Gave Sucky Treats".) Wow, I can't believe I actually did that. Just goes to show you just how fried my brain is at 1:47 in the morning. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 07:47, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

my real name is sean too! doriangray-[[User:Jibney|Jibney]] 22:09, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm assuming none of us are mean. If we were, we'd be trolls. [[User:ACupOfCoffee|Also named Sean]]

== Homestar's transformations ==
I've figured out that what Homestar turns into at the very end depends on what "essence" you get from Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat. "Essence of Doo-Doo Meringue" results in Tofu Homestar, "Essence of Strong Mad's Finger Dipped in a Glass of Warm Water" (or however it went) gives you a Marzipan with really bad teeth and a weird voice, and "Essence of Gullibility" leads to classy French Homestar. Someone might want to double check this just to make sure, though -- I only went through it 4 times.

:Yeah, that is a bit off. I got Essence of Strong Mad Prank and it resulted in Tofu Homestar. [[User:Azure Haights|Azure Haights]] 06:51, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::I don't think that's it. I went through once with each item, and got [[The Goblin]], Tofu Homestar, and a cyclops Homestar. I bet a decompiler will help this one. Maybe. I dunno exactly what they do. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Essence of DooDoo got me the goblin, and SM prank got me One eye Homestar, so that theory is out. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 06:53, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

:::What the?? I got Tofu Homestar each of my 3 times. I guess this thing has more potential than I thought! (Maybe it has to do with how you combine the choices? I picked the same number each time—i.e. AAA, BBB, CCC, etc. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:55, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::: 3^5=243 combinations. Let's divide and conquer!
::::If anyone knows how those online quizzes work, I bet it's like that. I've always wondered how they worked... Random answers match you to the perfect character. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Ghost(1), Herbs+Spices, DooDoo Merigne(1),1,3 = Marzipan Clone w/ bad teeth
::::::Wait, guys, if we're really going to do this, let's make a table. And use numbers (1-3), as above. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:02, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::All I know is that this sure sounds like something [[Jonathan Howe]] would be behind. Have fun figuring it out.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:04, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Right. This could be a complicated table... I'm-a try it on paper first. Y'know, list all the combinations: 11111, 11112, etc. You guys start the table. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::It seems as though the result is dependent on the sum of the choices. A sum divisible by 5 results in tofu homestar, 12 (and presumably 7) results in french homestar, and 11 (and presumably 6) results in cyclops homestar. I have personally tested 2,2,2,2,3 (cyclops homestar), and used the information provided by other users for this conclusion.
I'm going to sleep have fun. --[[User:24.21.231.89|24.21.231.89]] 07:35, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:hehe, one more, I did 1,1,1,1,3 again (my 2nd time) and got French Homstar this time, I'm wondering if they are all random? something to check into. Night--[[User:24.21.231.89|24.21.231.89]] 07:53, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::Tally up another French Homestar for 1,1,1,1,3. I was trying to go through all the transformations and got him with that combination. I hope there are a few super-secret combinations to try. Also, this may not be the place to say it, but I love this cartoon. I was worried TBC were making it at the last minute but regardless, they've done an excellent job. Top notch! Good prize! Great jorb! --[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 11:27, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

=== The Table ===

''{table removed}''

Um, do we need this list? It sure is taking up a lot of room. Has the mathematical threory been proven? If so, doesn't that render this list obsolete? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:47, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Seriously! Someone who knows what's what please confirm, cause at the moment it's... pretendous. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:27, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::Well, [[User:Gus]] has transcribed the list by character to his talk page. I think it can be removed from here. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

I think a better way is to arrange the effects by their supposed outcome based on the formula on tha main page, and see if that works. I've already done that on my talk page; if we want to copy it in here, by all means, do. [[User:Gus|Gus]] 19:38, 1 November 2005 (UTC) EDIT: Oh wow, DorianGray, you're fast. [[User:Gus|Gus]] 19:40, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:I'm sorry, but that table was just too long. I have removed it and replaced it with the section below. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:19, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

=== The Code ===
This is the code for the ending:
<pre>function showEnding () {
var _local3 = 0
for ( var _local2 = 0; _local2 < TOTAL_QUESTIONS; _local2++){
_local3 = (_local3) + answers[_local2]
}
_local3 = (_local3) % 5
_root.gotoAndPlay("end" + (_local3) + 1)
}</pre>

The program reads through an array of <code>answers[]</code> and adds them into a variable called <code>_local3</code>. It then divides that figure by 5 and takes the remainder. It adds 1 to the result and plays the frames that correspond to the following labels:
<pre>end1: tofu
end2: eyeball
end3: Frenchman
end4: grodelated Marzipan
end5: the Goblin</pre>
So the mathematical theory is correct. By the way, the code just says "end1", "end2", etc. The descriptions listed there are just what I called them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:19, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

For some reason I get something different:
<pre>function showEnding()
{
var _l3 = 0;
var _l2 = 0;
while (_l2 < TOTAL_QUESTIONS)
{
_l3 = _l3 + answers[_l2];
++_l2;
} // end while
_l3 = _l3 % 5;
_root.gotoAndPlay("end" + (_l3 + 1));
} // End of the function</pre>
Using Sothink SWF Decompiler 2005b. Must be something in the ActionScript that was extracted.--[[User:68.215.67.181|68.215.67.181]] 00:25, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:I only know a little about ActionScript, but my guess is that the difference lies in the way that the programs reverse-engineer (as well as interpret) the ActionScript, which is supposed to be a type of Machine-like language. Less sophisticated programs may not be able to extract all of the original information and produce code that's closer to the original. However both functions, in fact, produce exactly the same code! (''for'' loops are nothing more than glorified ''while'' loops) Hope that helps. ''On another note:'' [[Talk:Halloween_Potion-ma-jig#Order_of_transformations|Tofu IS first!]] I was right! hehe Oh, wait, It's Dot com already pointed that out. Nevermind, just call me captain obvious. Thanks, <s>'tis</s> Dot com! (How does that sound, too over the edge? Shall I stick to It's or just <s>plain old, vanilla old, flavored old,</s> Dot com . . . ?)--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:12, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
::Whoa, now hold on there... ''Dot com'' is not vanilla. It's dot com is my long name, the name I use to sign with. My official name. Dot com is my familiar name, the one I like to be addressed by in conversation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:04, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I stand corrected. It is not vanilla, for you are anything but. That is twue! I shall make note of that in future posts! Now I must get sleep. My bed beckons me forth. Good night all! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:17, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

== Transformations theory... ==

As someone who's done a little basic programming, I know one of the EASIEST ways TBC might have made this system work. Each option you select has a value attached to it, either 1, 2, or 3. When you select it, it gets added to a total value, at the end, your total value decides the transformation. This means that each set of choices probably has one 1-point option, one 2-point option, and one 3-point option. This is supported by the fact that some of the encounters seem to have a "best" choice, such as doing a dance for Bubs or getting the Ghost Water (outlined in the ingredients) from Coach Z. Chances are there's a special transformation if you get all the 3-point answers. Just a theory. [[User:Rocketlex|Rocketlex]] 07:32, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

==Halloween Costumes==
Someone put up the halloween costume list in the fun facts. I removed it, because that belongs in the halloween costumes article. -- [[user:DJ Teh Cheat|DJ Teh Cheat]]

Also, i noticed that someone put costume defenitions in the outside references. do these belong here, or should we keep them on the halloween costumes page? -- The Same Guy as the Last Thing
==Homestar Variations==
Should we plan on making seperate stub articles for French Homestar, One eyeball Homestar, and Freaky Marzipan? or should we wait and see if they ever reappear? -- [[user:DJ Teh Cheat|DJ Teh Cheat]]
:Prob just wait to see if they reappear -[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

== Order of transformations ==

[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Halloween_Potion-ma-jig&diff=187936&oldid=187935 True]! I wouldn't mind numbering them 0-4 myself. It just bothers me a little, listing 1 as the first one, knowing that programmatically, 0 is really first (in terms of ordering). Oh, the bane that is modular arithmetic. Yes, I am being pedantic. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:59, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
: Whatever works. 1-5 is easier to read for the average person who doesn't care about calculating which ending they're gonna get. 0-4 works better with the Trivia fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:05, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::I concur! (My eye's still twitching a little but I can live with that ;) )--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 09:06, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:::1-5 is best, because that's what they're called in the code. As you can see from the function above, the program adds 1 to the result to get the ending scene. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:21, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== Bucket O' Chicken ==

I noticed the Bucket of chicken dealy, and do remember seeing it somewhere. However I am having a hard time finding it on the [[theme park]] page, much less any mention of Knf'nC, or chicken, or King of town and chicken, or any such combination. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 09:10, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
: That was a mistake on my part, and I already fixed it. Sorry for the trouble. (It was in [[monster truck]], BTW.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:15, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::No problem! I found the related info and it's all looking G-O-O-O-..-O-O-..-O-D goood! Great job all! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 09:17, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Are the Bros. Chaps getting racier with their toons? KnF'nC seems like a prety direct reference to 'F***in' and Homestar sing about 'getting lucky tonight' - what about the kids? -- Steve-o 11/1/05
: Uh, I'd say it's more a pretty direct reference to the fact that 'n' can be used as a contraction for "and": "K and F and C", giving us the familiar letters in a non-registered-servicemark-infringing form. As for a reference to "getting lucky"... if kids understand what that means before they "should", that's on their parents. That's the whole point of a euphemism... it can be used in mixed company. Besides, who are we to say what "getting lucky" means in Homestar's head? All in all, I'd worry about where your mind is going and let TBC worry about theirs... [[User:Awkwardconversationalist|Awkwardconversationalist]] 21:04, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:: Personally, I'd be more concerned about the "Essence of Putting Strong Mad's Hand in Warm Water While He's Asleep". - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 21:35, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Via the [[monster truck]] article:
::<blockquote>The chicken bucket that says "KnF'nC" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Guns N' Roses|Guns N' Roses]], who used the acronym "GnF'nR" during the [[Wikipedia:Use Your Illusion I|Use Your Illusion]] era. The latest incarnation of the band contains guitarist [[Wikipedia:Buckethead|Buckethead]], who wears a [[Wikipedia:KFC|KFC]] bucket on his head like a hat.</blockquote>
:::We know this because it's mentioned directly in the DVD commentary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:53, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

:::About that "Essence of putting Strong Mad's Hand in Warm Water While He's Asleep", I read somewhere that people do that to others during sleepovers to make them go to the bathroom while they're asleep. I could be wrong, but that's what I remember. --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 01:46, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:Strong Bad torturing Strong Sad is ok for kids, but everytime something in a h*r toon comes too close to a sexual innuendo some people freak out!-- [[User:Vl-tone|vl-tone]] 07:12, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

== Terlet Brush? ==

I think that "Terlet Brush" is a reference to A Folky Tale. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

how?--[[User:Benol|Coach B]] 12:57, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

When Coach Z says that Saddy Dumpington sounds kinda like a Terlet. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:"Terlet" is from the last Halloween toon. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:11, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

The word 'terlet' is just an 'accented' way of saying toilet. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

==Original list==
How was the original list determined? I've looked at the bug and duck obscured list that homestar is carrying, and I have a hard time buying the supposed original items. the frist letter of what should be "Ghost" according to this list has a flat top.--sarducci
: Consider the font used. It ''is'' "Ghost-Water". Which, by the way, is the only item on the original list that can actually be obtained (if we assume that the JP3 spoon isn't made of wood.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:41, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
: Also, if you get Ghost-Water in the actual 'toon, look at how it's written on the scorecard, which uses the exact same font. It's a flat-topped capital G. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:43, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::I used a Flash decompiler when I transcribed the original list. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:44, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

==Jellybeans==

Reagan's predilection for jellybeans was not legendary. See the New York Times, January 15, 1981, [http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FA0B17FA3F5F0C768DDDA80894D9484D81 "Halcyon Era for the Jellybean."]

:I think you're confusing definitions of "legendary." When one says: Reagan's prediliction for jellybeans was legendary, one means that it is "well known and worth telling stories about," not "mythical." Like one might say, "legendary" singer-songwriter Bob Dylan and not mean he's a yeti or something.

::Undeniable! But the version I was responding to read "at least according to legend." [[User:Minivet|Minivet]] 02:08, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

== 4th wall breaking? ==

Umm, when Homestar says "Oh, great. The secret guy" is he breaking the 4th wall? I belive we should add that somewhere. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}
:Hmm... perhaps you should check out [[Fourth Wall Breaks]], where it has already been added. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:40, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== Opening scenario a reference? ==

Can any of the gamer-types tell me whether the opening "I'm lost in this haunted mansion and I need your help to find..." setup is a reference to a specific game? Seems like it ought to be. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:42, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:I can't think of any specific games, but this is a commonly used plot device in game genres involving puzzles, mazes and the like. The most recent game I can think of that employed this device is '''Pac Pix''' for the Nintendo DS, in which Pac-Man gets trapped as a drawing in a book, and he says he needs your help to free him. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 20:00, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Additionally, I submit this is NOT a reference to Luigi's Mansion (GameCube), as Luigi wasn't trapped in the mansion and didn't specifically ask for the player's help. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 20:02, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, that was the only thing that came to my mind in connection with haunted mansions, but even I was fairly sure it wasn't that, and my knowledge doesn't extend far beyond Tetris and the first few levels of SuperMarioWorld! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:20, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I think the haunted mansion thing is basically a cliche... There are a million of 'em, I bet. Like ''The Haunted Mansion'', a Disney movie-slash-game. Although it does sound vaguely familiar... Think old stuff. Like the Floppy Disk Container. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Actually, it just occurred to me that "I/We/They Need Your Help!" is a common theme in [[Wikipedia:Choose Your Own Adventure]] books, which are what this Toon is obviously based on. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 21:39, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:by the way, the line from the start that says "I'm selling these fine leather jackets" is a quote from the video game "the curse of monkey island, and possibly other games in the Monkey Island Series. - [[User:rando|random]] 21:39, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== Walter ==

I don't know about the rest of you, but I was dying with laughter when I saw Pom Pom dressed as Walter Soebchek from The Big Lebowski. My friends and I love that movie and it has some of the best quotes I've heard. Anyway, just wanted to voice my pleasure. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]

:That's what happens, Langham. That's what happens when you hack a wiki in the back door!

::LMAO!!!

== Tofu Homestar Update? ==

I just watched the toon for the first time earlier today, and the Tofu Homestar ending is different than what is listed in the transcript. In the version I saw, the top block of Tofu actually does fall off, and it lands in the cauldron with a splash. This cuases Homestar to transform to his usual look, and Marzipan says once again that Homestar is back to his usual self, this time in a disappointed-sounding tone. Homestar then proceeds to tell Marzipan that her costume makes her butt look big.
:Yup; they updated the toon! and now the transcript's been updated too. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:26, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== Gossamer Goof ==

Um, sorry TBC, but Gossamer was not the bright orange color you depicted him as. Not even in his first appearance. He was red. Straight red. Even his cameos in the Looney Tunes movies he was red. -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 14:35, 1 November 2005 (CST)
:Hey, you're right. If you want to add it under Goofs (or Remarks), that seems right to me. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::you do realize that TBC, probably don't read the wiki talk pages, right? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:54, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I think they knew that (Gossamer was red). I noticed that too but didn't make much of it for some reason (cue in willing suspension of disbelief). I can only guess that they made him orange as a Halloween Gag (or even to avoid copyright issues? -- ha! right. Though save that one difference he does look a lot like gossimer.) BTW where is there mention of this in the page again? Is it in the transcript, RWR? I couldn't find mention of this. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:03, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Nevermind guys, I found where it's [[Halloween_Costumes#Halloween_Potion-ma-jig_.282005.29|mentioned]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:05, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== How Do They Know? ==
How do they (who ever they are) know what the origanal posion read?
# You can read it yourself if you pause the Flash file and look really close.
# It's dot com used a Flash decompiler on it; it exists in the Flash file without the bug and duckie drawings. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:23, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Plus, I have spooky Halloween powers. ''Seeeeee... Seeeeeeeeee...'' (that's the sound eyeballs make, in case it didn't come across in text). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:35, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== Throw a TV on 'im! ==

*"Throw a TV on 'im!" is an oblique reference to [[virus]], where Strong Bad says "Drop a train on 'em!"

I added this inside reference, and it was removed a bit later due to "questionable merit" (by someone who doesn't have a user page, I noticed). So I figured I'd mention it here and see if people agree on whether it should be included as a Fun Fact or not. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 21:47, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
: This is what [[STUFF]] is for, but I personally don't think it's a reference, if only because of the absence of the word "drop." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:49, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== Homsar's highlight ==

This fact has been added and deleted multiple times:

In the costume gallery, Homsar is available if you found him. However, he can still be highlighted even others are talking.

The last time with:

Homsar can be highlighted because he is a sprite overlaying the scene

But how does that make it not a goof? Obviously, TBC went out of their way to remove the ability to highlight all of the other characters, so Homsar's highlight does seem rather Goof-ish to me. Don't utter the words "Flash artifact"; this doesn't fit the description. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:59, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
: My (partial) mistake; it's listed in Remarks. I still think it's a Goof. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:00, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:: I agree on the goofishness. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 22:10, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::: It has to do with how the Flash file is set up. Whenever you're able to highlight the characters, you're looking at a particular frame. When you click on one of them, it moves to a different spot in the file and plays the appropriate mini-scene. You can't click on the characters because there are no buttons in these frames. When the mini-scene is done, it goes back to the costumes frame. To insert Homsar into the scene, they just created a sprite with him in it and overlayed it at the end. The sprite is the same whether you're looking at the costumes frame or one of the mini-scenes, which is why it behaves the same way in both instances (just like Homestar's eyes blink even when the file is paused). If they ''really'' wanted to, they could have done any number of workarounds to this, but, being on a deadline, you can hardly fault them for doing it the easiest way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:32, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:::: Regardless of the technical reason for it, the end result is that Homsar's "overlay" behaves differently than all of the rest of the characters, without a good visible reason to the casual user. That's why I think it should still be listed as a goof, even knowing the mechanism by which it occurs. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 22:40, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::::: What? The technical reason is why it ''shouldn't'' be listed as a goof. Goofs are when TBC make an actual ''mistake''. This is not a mistake; therefore, it is just a remark. If you really wanted to, you could list it as a glitch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:55, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Actually, glitches seems like a good place for it, so I moved it there. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:25, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::: My two and one half cents: A glitch implies that Flash is behaving in a way that it should not. Flash is behaving exactly as it should, though. Wot. --[[User:65.184.26.220|65.184.26.220]] 19:08, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::: You have a good point, 65. But a Goof implies that TBC are behaving in ways that ''they'' should not. TBC put that scene together exactly as they should, so it's not a Goof. Goofs should be reserved for bona fide mistakes. If Glitches is out, then that just leaves Remarks. But on the other hand, I think Glitches is a good fit for this fact, because putting it there highlights pecularities in the Flash file without stigmatizing the result. I think that's the direction the Glitches category is ultimately taking. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:52, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::Hi guys. When the page was being built I was actually the first one to move this comment from a goof to a remark. The way I saw it at the time was that, even if they had time limitations to deal with, and given that putting homesar in there the right way would be much work, I thought and still think that it was purposely left the way it was made because it was "homesar-ish". The odd behavior fits perfectly with... well... everything else he does. One way or another I'm pretty sure that TBC knew of the flash limitations and that it would behave the way it does now. In the end they probably decided this would be a good way to present homesar's easter egg. Following that line of reasoning I think it belongs as a remark. That's just my opinion. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:09, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

== Marzipan's Eyes ==

Did anyone else notice that Marzipan's eyes, in the beginning, cause a bit of her facial outline to disappear when she blinks? You have to zoom in, and it's only the duration of her blinking, so you have to have a sharp eye. A possible goof?— {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:18, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Welcome to the Homestar Runner Wiki, where parts of outlines disappearing for fractions of a second are noticed. All sarcasm aside, it ''is'' interesting. Add it on. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::LOL! That is so true (the noticing part)! That cracked me up! Anyway, for the record, I have not YET checked to verify the comment. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:02, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

== Strange Looking Marzipan ==

Does anyone else consider the appearance of the Strange Looking Marzipan to be similar to that of Salad Fingers? Especially the teeth? This might just be me because I was recently exposed to the horrors of Salad Fingers ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salad_fingers]) but I still think it is worthy of consideration for a real world reference. [[User:Colonel Burnsides|Colonel Burnsides]] 23:01, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:I always just figured it a culmination of the "horrifying" PBTC Marzipan from [[mile]] and [[modeling|The Dame With Hard-To-Look-At Teeth]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:Oh gods... I hate you, Burnsides. I followed that link and watched the Salad Fingers toons and I can't remember the last time I was as thoroughly creeped out. Reading the theories about it on the wikipedia afterwards didn't help either. I think I'll have that stuff stuck in my head for months... -Krendal

== Endings ==
Can someone please put mirrors of the endings? [[User:Mini-Trogdor|Mini-Trogdor]]
:Try downloading the [http://www.eltima.com/download/flashdecompiler/ Flash Decompiler], then saving the flash file from the bottom of the article. You can move backwards and forwards all over the place! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:38, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::A seek bar is also good for quick access. I don't have a good link, but I know there's one around here somewhere. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:43, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:::There's [http://www.globfx.com/downloads/swfplayer/ Swiff Player] or [http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303&package_id=84358&release_id=367150 Media Player Classic]. They're both free. [[User:gt|gt]]

== Same middle name. ==

Homestar has the same middle name as me, my name is Spincer Micheal Johnson. [[User:Bassium!|Bassium!]]
:Neat. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::Yea, I guess that's a better chance than your first or last names. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:20, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:::It must be a reference to you! ;)
:Do you spell it Mich''ea''l or Mich''ae''l as I do? (It's my first name, but I go by my middle) --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
::Micheal, man. {{User:Bassium!/sig}}

== Possible Ref ==

This may be a ref when the KOT is digging for something he baried when he was 9 and now can't find it may be a ref to the film Stand By Me when one of the kids I can't remember witch one. Buried a jar of pennies when he's 9 and then can't find it when he's older.
:Can anyone verify this? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I saw the movie, but I think that is a stretch. Besides, I think if we put any more references, this article might pop. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 00:02, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

== Different endings ==

Can I get one combolation of choices that produces each of the endings? Thanks ahead of time. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:How about End 1 (1, 3, 2, 3, 1); End 2 (3, 1, 3, 2, 2); End 3 (1, 3, 1, 1, 1); End 4 (3, 1, 3, 3, 3); and End 5 (2, 2, 2, 1, 2). Those will give you a different ending each time, as well as show each different stop along the way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:15, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
::Thanks a ton, dot com! - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
*thanx alot!
*This is a combination calculated to minimize repeats:
:*Choices: Z-1, King-1, Bad-2, Bubs-3, Sad-3; Ending#1: Tofu
:*Choices: Z-2, King-3, Bad-3, Bubs-2, Sad-1; Ending#2: Cyclops
:*Choices: Z-1, King-2, Bad-1, Bubs-1, Sad-2; Ending#3: French
:*Choices: Z-3, King-3, Bad-2, Bubs-2, Sad-3; Ending#4: Freak Marzi
:*Choices: Z-2, King-1, Bad-1, Bubs-3, Sad-2; Ending#5: Goblin
:[[User:Oogabooga|Oogabooga]] 01:52, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

== Chuck Taylor Reference? ==

In my opinion, Homestar said "The woods are chuck full of.." or something to that effect. This may refer to his shoes, Converse All-Stars, or Chuck Taylors. What do you think?
:I think he simply mispronounced the word "chock" - the term "chock full" is a common phrase. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 20:02, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
::Althought Strong Bad did mention this once before when he said "Chuck Taylor wearing low self-esteemers." {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:05, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Found it: [[best thing]] (the Limozeen cartoon episode). Given that, I think this reference is possible, but it may be a bit of a stretch, considering (a) Homestar wasn't talking about his shoes, and (b) "chock full" is still a common phrase that is entirely appropriate for this context. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 20:17, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

== Date of release ==

While I do agree that it was released a little too late, shouldn't we (and don't we always) go by the official date on the [[Main Pages]]? I remember [[A Folky Tale]] was released shortly after midnight, but TBC called it a Monday update, and so did we. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:10, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:This wasn't just a little after midnight, this was 1:30 a.m. Atlanta time. They admitted they were late with their message: "It's still Halloween in certain timezones." Sorry, guys, but you released it in November. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:31, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah but like TBC said, it was still October in some time zones ''including'' the Mountain Time Zone which is Utah's time zone and thus the time zone where the server for this wiki resides, is it not!? ;) So by their own admission they've confessed to releasing it for those time zones, and I am sure that they set their watches so that they'd have the "correct" time of 11:30 MST. :D --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:49, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:Ummm... no. They just tried to release it at least in time to let a few time zones appreciate it. Those would be: 
#Midway island; Samoa.
#Hawaii.
#Alaska.
#The West Coast, most notably British Columbia, Washington, Oregon, California, and a bit of Mexico. To a lesser extent, I think the Yukon's also in there.
#And Mountain time. Which has some Alberta, Utah, Arizona, Probably some Northwest Territories, ect.
Besides that, Halloween was over. That would also explain their 12 hour update to the toon, they released it before it was done, then fixed a few minor things they wanted. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:56, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:Whenever there's been a question regarding release time, I can always remember us going with Atlanta time.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:26, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::LOL, now *that* is a detailed time zone list if i saw any! You have done well in combatting my intellect! (However, I did reference a movie, and the source has not been revealed!) To be sure, I hope no one has taken me ''too'' seriously with this post and it's accompanying comment-- I do not want to come across as arrogant. I'm just playing a little devil's advocate. (And yes, it does make more sense to go by Atlanta time) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:57, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

==The Cheat Noises==

I missed the discussion (if there ever was any), did we ever come to a decision about guessing what The Cheat says, and noting it in the transcript. Because The Cheat is obviously (to me) saying "I'm the best!", a phrase Toad often said, such as in Mario Kart. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:36, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:I think we did decide that we don't put words in The Cheat's mouth. However, I also think we can make an exception this time, since what The Cheat is saying is a direct reference to Mario Kart 64 and similar. If he wasn't in costume, I'd say no, but... It's okay if he is. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Yeah, we should just forget about trying to translate the "the cheat" noises there. To hard. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:00, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:::The previous discussion was at [[HRWiki_talk:Standards#Standardize_.22The_Cheat_Noises.22|HRWiki:Standards]]. The best thing I had to say there regarding the situation here was this: "I do believe that there does exist that tiny fraction where it actually sounds like he's saying something. But these cases are quite rare." So, if it really can be determined (from context or whatever) that he's saying "I'm the best", then it should at least be mentioned somewhere. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:11, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
::::''Edit Conflict:'' I agree. There are several instances where I've heard noises that are very close to the words that would fit perfectly in context. I beleive some of those words might even be in the SB email easter egg where we have his noises translated by a notable expert in the field of The Cheat-speak. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:02, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::I thought all the "Learn to speak The Cheat" entries were already in the transcripts. That should be checked on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:03, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Oh! They could be... I wasn't saying they weren't. I was just pointing out that what was heard was very close to matching its translation. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:23, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
::::I for one am highly in favor of adding a Fun Fact, that "I'm The Best" is a common Toad phrase. However, in order to do so, it would likely first need to be added to the transcript. Surprisingly enough, it was rather hard to find proof that he actually says that line on the Mario Kart series. But for any who might question this, I found a [http://www.guitartabs.cc/forum/index.php?automodule=blog&blogid=2&cmd=showentry&eid=132 couple] [http://www.smbhq.com/mkstory.htm of] [http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/board/message?board.id=legacy&message.id=125023&page=5 links] [http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/n64/review/R26114.html that] [http://forums.hyperactive.com.au/archive/index.php/t-2686.html say] [http://www.google.com/search?q=Mario+Kart+Toad+%22I%27m+The+Best%22&hl=en&hs=WOo&lr=&c2coff=1&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&start=10&sa=N otherwise]. Are there any objections to me adding it to the transcript? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:00, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:None whatsoever from me. As a Nintendo fan--and supporter of Toad's Mario Kart 64 voice (as opposed to Super Mario Sunshine and later games)--I think this is very noteable. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I also don't like the way the transcript explains "Poomp" as being the effect made when Toad crashes. It has very little do to with Toad crashing, but it always happens when I kart lands after going off a high cliff. I think it should be reworded to reflect that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
::Yeah, someone get that outta there. It's already explained in the fun facts. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Done. I thought it was worded like a fun fact, which doesn't belong in the transcripts. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

== An early version ==

The version I watched when the toon first came out is different than the version that exists now. Basically, I have a version open in a browser window from last night, and it doesn't have The Cheat's Easter egg OR Homestar returning to himself after turning into tofu. I'm trying to find it in my temp folders. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 04:54, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah there's been some mention of it in the discussions. I remember not seeing a The Cheat easter egg - I didn't even know there was one until you mentioned it! I have read about the Tofu thing somewhere in this talk page (and it's prolly in the FF too). Good luck finding the SWF for your old version! That'll be cool if it's still there! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:02, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
::'''EDIT CONFLICT:''' Yea, I think it was already noted. Although a mirror or two under the links would be a nice touch. (New "The End" screen, Cheat "I'm The Best" easter egg, and an extended Tofu Homestar ending). {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:03, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Whoa! Two edit conflicts with the same person in the same night! <insert Twilight Zone music here> --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:13, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
::::I still have it open in the browser window but I can't get it out. It's not in my cache any more and saving the page downloads the new one. Anyone have any ideas? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 05:39, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Hmmm... Leave it open if you can for now, and Talk to the Tom/Com duo. One of them'll probably be able to help you. I'd use the IRC Chat channel in the external links, you'll get better tech-support that way. There's gotta be a mirror or two floating around the net by now though, right?!?!?! {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:51, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::I think the only way you'd be able to get it in that situation is if you can find it in your cache. Amanda, what browser are you using?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:35, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::Firefox. I already searched my disk and memory cache and found the new version. It's really strange. I guess downloading the new version overrode the old version, but the old version is ''still in my browser window''. So where's it being stored on my machine? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 07:09, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::It appears that Flash has some sort of automatic cache, but it's set not to cache things from homestarrunner.com... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 07:14, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::See if "about:cache" in your location bar reveals anything interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:23, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::::Uh... yeah. Quoth the me: "I already searched my disk and memory cache." I searched all the files on my computer, too. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 07:25, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::::::UPDATE: Lost the window. I accidentally opened a file that opened in the same window as the toon. Sorry guys. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 07:30, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Oh, I just noticed this conversation as I was just about to ask if anyone wanted the earliest version of this toon (that I saved about an hour after it came out.) I can send to Tom via email if he would like to add it to the wiki's mirror. In the mean time, I will add an external link to it hosted on my forum. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 03:52, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

:And if that doesn't work for any reason I gots it too. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:04, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

::Sweet stuff! I was gonna suggest earlier something like a "memory dump program" for Homestar Coder to use, but by then it was too late. Please let us know when a copy is posted in the mirror! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:22, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Um, yeah, nevermind... I *just* noticed that there's a link to it from the page. It should have occurred to me to check there first! Thanks guys! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 09:47, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

== The Mysterious Man of Mischief ==

We have all known for a long time that Strong Bad mercilessly torment Strong Sad. But I got to thinking after the Halloween Toon mention ''the essence of putting Strong Mad's hand in warm water'' that how many time has SB teased SM? I remember the potato salad in the drawer but are there other examples out there.

Also does anyone think that it is worth it to list the times Strong Bad has tormented other people like glueing SS's hands to his face and locking him in the bath tub at Decemberween? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:12, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:We already have [[Strong Bad Hurting Strong Sad]]. I don't think we need a page like that for everybody. SB is just not a very nice person, and I don't think we need proof by cataloging every instance. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 15:16, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

==Strong Sad n' Say==

Wouldn't Strong Sad saying "each day you die a little more" be a slight reference to Spin n' Say? I found the way he said it in this toon quite similar to the way he said it in the game. [[User:Teh_Frossty_One|Teh_Frossty_One]]
:Already noted in the article. I do think Marzipan's "Yay! Now I'm not the only girl!" is a reference to it, though. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::As for Marzi, I thought I remember saying something similar in an interview also. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 23:45, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

== Stinko-Speak ==

Isn't Strong Bad saying "That's a worthy cause if ever there was one!" a reference to [[Stinkoman]] "That's the name of a talented fighter if ever there was one."[[20X6 vs. 1936]]? [[User:20X6_GEM]]
:That's what I though at first, but it could easily be a coincidence. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}
::That's a worthy fun fact if ever there was one! How can it be a coincidence? If it wasn't intentional, he would have said, "That's a worthy cause if '''there ever''' was one," not the other way around. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::Actually, it's usually said the other way around. I think it counts as "common phrase". {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 23:54, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

== Runnin gag? ==

When Homestar's singing that song, would that be another refrence to "Eggs"? [[User:Cakeman|Cakeman]]

== Annd scene ==

Isn't Marzipan saying "ennd scene" instead of "annd scene"? I think that makes more sense...

:"And scene" is what you say at the end of a brief performance, for example in a theater workshop. A brief search turned up many results, five of which I have listed below:
:*[http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/9151/719.htm ''Friends'' episode 719]
::JOEY: '''And scene!''' Huh? Wasn’t that fun? We did a little improv there.
:*[http://www.twiztv.com/scripts/arresteddevelopment/season1/arrestdev-102.htm ''Arrested Development'' episode 102]
::TOBIAS: (screaming, singing "Amazing Grace") This isn’t a fever! (continues singing) (on the floor) Can’t even see where the knob is! (dramatic sigh) '''And scene.''' (takes a bow)
:*[http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3125643&st=30 Forum regarding ''Arrested Development'']
::I loved during the Sugarhill theme how Bateman did a sort of '''"and scene"''' movement with his hand.
:*[http://www.twiztv.com/scripts/willandgrace/season4/willandgrace-425.htm ''Will and Grace'' episode 425]
::(Broadway auditions)
::JACK: [QUIETLY TO HIMSELF] '''And scene.'''
:*[http://www.twiztv.com/scripts/willandgrace/season5/willandgrace-519.htm ''Will and Grace'' episode 519]
::(From his acting class)
::JACK: '''And scene.''' Nice work.
:— [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:59, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

== Homestar gets an item ==

If it hasn't been mentioned yet, I think that the whole thing with the music and the screen that pops up when homestar acquires an item is a reference to something, but I can't recall exactly what it is from. Could it be the Legend of Zelda?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 05:14, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
:Well, I think it's a reference to any number of video games, including the Zelda series. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:17, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
::That particular jingle is a TBC original. I agree that it's likely modeled after video games that chime when you get a "key item", but there are too many of those games to list. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

== Shorty ==

I'm trying to figure out why Bubs calls Homestar "Shorty" (right before giving him the JP3 collector's spoon). I have two ideas: if "stick and move, stick and move" is a [[Wikipedia:Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!|Mike Tyson's Punch-Out]] reference, then it makes sense (Little Mac was extremely short). The other possibility is that the actor who played Moocher in Breaking Away, Jackie Earle Haley, was also extremely short (you can see that [http://www.imdb.com/gallery/hh/0355097/JackieEarleHaleytrophies.jpg here], although it's more noticeable while watching the movie. I lean toward the first explanation. Any thoughts? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 10:57, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
:I think it's being said in a hip-hop sense personally (figurative instead of literal) but that's probably just me. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 13:39, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

==TV ''is'' bad for you==

When The Cheat pushed the TV off the edge, the dent on top was towards the right. But when it landed next to Homestar, it was to the left. I know this is pretty minor, but I just wanted to bring it up. [[User:Teh_Frossty_One|Teh_Frossty_One]]

==...In warm water while he's asleep==

Anyone else think the essence of "putting Strong Mad's hand in warm water while he's asleep" is a reference to that prank where one put his victim's hand in cold water while said victim is asleep, causing the victim to urinate upon him/herself? Sure would explain Strong Mad calling it his secret shame. Should this go in the Real-World References? [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]] 20:39, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
:You should have a look at the [[Halloween_Potion-ma-jig#Explanations|Explanations]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

== Baldy no more? ==

Is that hair or a beret on the suave version of Homestar? -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 14:44, 7 Nov 2005 (CST)
:I'd say bad comb-over or toupee {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 21:36, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

==Buried Strong Sad==

Why was Strong Sad buried in the dirt? Is it a reference to Sickly Sam or Devo? --[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 05:41, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Other Sightings

2005-08-22T04:41:26Z

Hysterical Woman: added sighting at Otakon

===''505 Unbelievably Stupid Web Pages''===
On page 125 of [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1402201427/qid=1071549961/ this book], "Strongbad E-Mail" is listed as link number 256. The writer claims "...the answers to these questions require as much thought as you'd expect from a baboon."

=== ''Robots The Movie'' ===
At the end, when the heroes are in the chop shop, Rodney says "Looks like I'm gonna have to jump!"

===''Official Rock-Paper-Scissors Strategy Guide''===
In a sample tournament bracket in this book on page 163, one of the players is Trogdor.

===''Macromedia Flash 8 Conference''===
[[Image:homestar_in_flash_8.png|thumb|H*R in Flash Player 8]]
As part of the first showing of the as yet unreleased [http://www.macromedia.com/flash Macromedia Flash Player] 8, a graphical demo was shown with various effects that will be available in the new player being applied to both graphics, text, animations and movies on the fly. Of all the animations on the web, the Macromedia developers decided to feature both [[Homestar Runner]] and an animated [[The Homestar Runner]], showing the new effects being applied to their forms.

This was the first use of Homestar Runner by Macromedia, the later being the short, [[Where the Crap Are We?]], which appeared as an easter egg in the about dialog of [http://www.macromedia.com/software/central/ Macromedia Central].

*[http://hsrforum.com/files/homestar_in_flash_8.wmv See the short, cut video (low resolution)]
*[http://www.hsrforum.com/files/hr_flash8_HiRes.wmv See the short, cut video (high resolution)]
*[http://www.moock.org/blog/archives/000146.html Listing of mirrors for the full technical demo movie]

=== ''Super Size Me'' ===
In the movie ''[[IMDb:tt0390521|Super Size Me]]'', there are a group of kids at the computer watching an old Tandy era Strong Bad Email.
[[Category: Sightings]]

=== ''Celebration 3'' ===
[[Image:53028701.jpg|thumb|Homestar on X-Wing]]
Before ''[[Wikipedia:Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith|Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith]]'', the official fan club held a convention in the Indiana Convention Center, where they showed cars modeled after several ships from the [[Wikipedia:Star Wars|Star Wars universe]]. One of the [[Wikipedia:X-Wing|X-Wing]] cars had a Homestar Runner cling sticker on it.

=== ''Pumpkin!'' ===
Around Halloween 2004, at "The Old Spaghetti Factory" restaurant in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, they had a large collection of carved pumpkins all over the place, and one predominantly placed pumpkin near the entrance had a (excellently carved) likeness of Homestar in it. To show how big this is, one must know that "The Old Spaghetti Factory" is a fairly famous resturant, and is a higher class restaurant.

=== ''BigStuf Camp'' ===
The youth camp program "BigStuf" held in Panama City, FL every year is home to several Homestar Runner sightings: The violin player in the camp's band consistently wears various Homestar Runner shirts, and a Homestar Runner character is always thanked on the last day of camp every year. In 2004, it was Homestar Runner; In 2005, it was Coach Z.

=== Great Teacher Largo Panel, Otakon ===
At the GLT panel, during the question and answer session, someone asked how Largo "typed with boxing gloves on". Largo replied that he was not Strong Bad, but he does "rock out like Trogdor" and sometimes his computer gets "burniated".

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2005-02-13T22:17:31Z

Hysterical Woman: /* Beverly Sportsinterviews */ added opinion

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[crazy cartoon]]===

====Eh! Steve====

Eh! Steve returns in e-mail 84, [[kids' book ]].

*'''Decline.''' Not fun, and it definitely doesn't belong in "trivia." It's like saying that as a fun fact for homsar (the email) that homsar returns in interview. That's not fun. Heck no at all. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 10:58, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' - Good example of how NOT to do forward referencing. If it was a reference that was expanded upon later to create another thing entirely (Homestar calling Strong Bad "Stinkoman" in [[island]] spawning Stinkoman 20X6), that would be acceptable. But to mention that a character showed up in another cartoon like this doesn't really work; THIS is redundant. I might as well go to Marshmellow's Last Stand and say "Strong Bad returns in A Jumping Jack Contest and eventually gets his own e-mail segment", if this were to go through. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 11:24, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===

On Bubs' Concession Stand, the lights look and behave like the the lights from the [[Astro Lite]] Game.
*'''Decline.''' This is stated clearly in the easter eggs section. --[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[no loafing]] ===

==== Car? Not no more. ====
Strong Bad says "his cool, cool car" in the beginning, but later says he has no car in the e-mail car.

*'''Decline.''' Just a song. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' There really ought to be a moratorium on these kinds of Fun Facts. Some of these are really getting ridiculous. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:26, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Third.''' I say leave cross references out completely unless its an actual running gag. This "Strong Bad once said or did or was seen doing blah blah blah in another e-mail" crap is obnoxious. Its just eager kids trying to be heard. Bleh. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:17, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===

==== Coincedincem ====

According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

*'''Decline.''' TBC reuse flash items a lot! So, I guess it's not a coincedincem. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:35, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:31, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
***'''Third.''' The movies themselves take place in 1936, which was a long time ago, coincedemtally.
*'''Rewrite and Keep.''' It's poorly worded, for sure, but I never noticed it before and think it's interesting enought to keep. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[other days]] ===

==== Tappity Tappity ====

When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[radio]] ===

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference? My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P :Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' Since no reference has appeared, this looks like a decline to me. But I'll give it more time, I suppose. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' [http://www.audioactivism.org/archives/2004_12.html This] is the only reference I can find, but it's dated after the email so likely to be borrowing the H*R phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:17, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I don't know if a reference is neccesarily needed here. It's common knowledge to anyone who's ever used a microphone that it has to be positioned in the right spot to avoid hissing of '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds, as well as popping of '''T''' sounds. --[[User:El Zilcho|El Zilcho]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:41, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' They used this phrase for a reason and this fact sounds plausable enough. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Find reference, then Accept.''' It sounds plausible, sure, but if it's so very common and well-known it shouldn't be that much trouble to find an article, somewhere, which makes reference to it. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:28, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)

====The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!====

The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

*'''Decline.''' This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
** '''Withdrawn!''' Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept'''. Lighten up a little, Svelt! --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
** "Lighten up"? We don't need every fact repeated over and over... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
** What do you mean, "lighten up"? If it's already up then there's no reason to add it a second time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Why should he "lighten up"? Don't you think it's annoying when the same information is provided over and over on the same page? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Okay, sorry, I couldn't resist. '''DECLINE'''
*sorry i thought this was the next fun fact up. my bad. -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.
*'''Neutral''' What do you guys think?
*'''Accept''' It sounds like a good fact. I mean I didn't know it. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Second!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:24, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting and certainly not common knowledge. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' Considering TBC live east of the Mississippi, they probably used it because it just sounded better to them than using a "K". [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]]
*'''Weak Accept''' Not really anything groundbreaking, but the standard for naming radio station call signs based on relation to the Mississippi River isn't necessarily common knowledge. However, like the above voter said, it could just be coincidence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:30, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Another poorly-worded fun fact. Add info about TBC's geography for good measure. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:30, 10 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
==== Politics ====
Marzipan's mention that one of the Pom girls was a Republican (and the Republican flag subsequently appearing) is the only reference to real-life politics or political parties on the site.
*'''Decline.''' What about Strong Sad as [[Wikipedia:Mikhail Gorbachev|Gorbachev]] in the same toon? Or Martin [[Van Buren]]? Or "[[Wikipedia:Herbert Clark Hoover|herbert hoover]]?" in [[Kick the Can]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:07, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Well, how about ''modern'' politics? I'm actually '''Neutral''' toward this fact, though. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:09, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
***Gorbachev was in power less than twenty years ago. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
* '''Second''' [[User:Trogga|Trogga]]'s fact. Although there is also Abraham Lincoln's profile in [[Everybody to the Limit]] and [[Fluffy Puff Commercial]], as if it matters. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:57, 3 Feb 2005 (CST)
* '''Decline''' Unimportant, not interesting, and not even true to boot. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

===[[origins]]===

====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

*'''Decilne.''' I was the one who STUFF'D this, and it's too much of a stretch. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:59, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but weakly''' The Beverly Cleary I'm iffy about. At least keep the Lem S. reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:34, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, wholeheartedly''' As another child of the 80s, I can safely say that the Brothers Chaps are making a reference to Beverly Cleary. Her coming-of-age books were all the rage from fourth grade to eighth grade, and had titles similar to "Ew, Claire, Why?!" Absolutely accept this one. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 20:43, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' This sounds reasonable enough to me, really. With the title sounding similar, along with the name and all. [[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]] 21:16, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I'd keep it but lose the Lem S. reference, it's too obvious. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]] 8:13, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The title is similiar to something that Beverly would write, but the book in the easter egg looks nothing like the art from one of her books. Also, the Lem S. reference is fairly obvious. Get rid of it.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline!''' Are you serious? There's no way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*'''Accept''' This is what I first thought. [[User:KevDude|KevDude]]
*'''Accept''' I think it's a pretty strong refernce. It does look like one of her books, complete with "Some Award". It's certainly what I thought of at first. --[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 15:30, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' but suggest changing 'is a reference' to 'may be a reference', as I think the conclusion is reasonable enough to mention, but by no means conclusive. --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 12:48, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I saw it as a reference to Beverly Cleary too.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 15:17, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[ghosts]]===
====PETRA====
The rock and role band "PETRA" relesed a CD in 1986 called "Captured In Time And Space."
this may have a resenblents to the area strong sad is in.

*'''Weak Decline.''' Not really that similar. I would've gone neutral but you made an entire heading for it and you spelled "resemblence" wrong. Completely wrong. Before adding your stuff, be sure to look at the standards page :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:40, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You used bad grammar and spelling, too. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 16:53, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' "Time and space" is a common phrase. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Maxstar|Maxstar]]

===[[funny]]===

====Awesome Sauce====
Is "Awesome Sauce" a reference to "[[Awexome Cross]]"?
*'''Decline.''' I see no connection whatsoever. →[[user:evin290|evin290]]15:53, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Neither do I, so '''second'''. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:08, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*At first, that's what i thought they said. '''Accept''', even tough it's not going to do anyhting.
**Especially if you don't sign your vote. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.
*'''Weak accept.''' This is pretty obvious, but I'll let it slide... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:53, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', because it's a little ''too'' obvious. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:08, 28 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I'm British, I didn't know. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:37, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' -- Never heard of Clorox, but I think it isn't a reference whatever Clorox is. [[User:Rainer]]
**'''Comment''' Clorox is a company that makes cleaning products. (It's a US company.) So basically, this is a good fact for anyone living anywhere else but the US, but for Americans it's way too obvious to be a fact. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 04:58, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

===[[stunt double]]===

====Lemmer====

"The Lemmer" in the above article is a reference to [[Lem Sportsinterviews]]

*'''Decline. '''Not fun, not a fact. It's probably not even a reference to Lem. It could be a reference to Lemke - the real homestar runner :-) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:19, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' According to the DVD commentary, this IS a reference to Lemke What's-His-Last-Name. I hate sports, but it's true. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 19:24, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd!!!''' And Lemke isn't his last name, he's called Mark Lemke -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 16:01, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I don't have the DVD, but if commentary says it's a reference to [[LEMKE]], make say so. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:29, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===

==== The Hot-b-sey Twins ====
It appears Strong Bad has confused the Bobsey Twins with the Sweet Valley Twins. The Bobsey Twins were boy-girl twins who solved mysteries Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys style. The Sweet Valley Twins were identical twin girls whose "adventures" read like a typical teen dramedy. The latter would be more likely considered "hot", especially given the respective cover art of each series.

* '''Revise.''' A little too wordy. Cut off everything after "whose adventures" and merge the last two sentences to read: "The Bobsey Twins were mystery solving boy-girl twins whereas the Sweet Valley Twins were typical teenaged identical twin girls. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* '''Revise.''' The thought had crossed my mind, as well, though I'm hesitant on putting mere speculation of what we ''think'' he meant in the article. It should be noted, though, that the Bobsey Twins aren't that hot. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 18:46, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
* Perhaps the Sweet Valley Twins info should just be left out if its in question what TBC were referring to. It is clear though that Strong Bad got his Twins mixed (whether TBC did it on purpose is up for debate) so I still say the meat of this fact is good. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...

==== I've lost my napkin! ====
The King's line "I've lost uhmmm-my napkin!" is a reference to [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]].

*'''Decline'''. I don't see the reference. The King of Town loses a crown, and a Poopsmith. Neither of these is remotely similar to a napkin. I wouldn't have STUFFed this fact if I did see the reference :) [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 19:31, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' A clear reference. [[User: Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]
*'''Decline.''' A big, ''big'' stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] / [[comic]]===
====VOIP====
I'm pretty sure that the reason why TBC selected "VOIP" as the sound that the Visor Robot makes when zapping So-and-so's head, is because [[Wikipedia:Voice_over_IP|VoIP]] is an up-and-coming technology, that investors are throwing scads of money at, and is getting more press than it deserves from technology reporters.
*'''Decline.''' Supreme stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:48, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)
** How is it a stretch? It is an exact match with the acronym. Unfortunately there don't seem to be many other "sound effects" in the Teen Girls Squad series. -- 70.19.78.90
*** Just because it's an exact match does not mean that the Bros. Chaps did it on purpose. And to say that there are few other "sound effects" in TGS is laughable. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' Check the toon and the transcript - the abbreviation is "VoIP" while the sound used is "VOiP". If this was an intentional Voice over IP reference, they'd have used the lower-case "o" and the upper-case "I". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** I only count about 10 "sound effects" that are transcribed on the screen. Half of them are actual English words (sometimes with the 'D appended). The other half are the goblinspeak, JGHOWMP, AGGH-GRAGH, and SHOMP. Did I miss any? -- 70.19.78.90
*'''Severe Decline''' Maybe they used VOIP as the sound because, you know, it sounds right. And when comic was made, I think Voice over IP wasn't at the current level of popularity it is today. (Realize, comic is from at least a couple years ago). In conclusion, I'm in awe at how this fact ever came about. Also, I'm amazed I'm actually voting on this page again, but you know. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 23:20, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - this is waaay out there. Voice-Over IPs has NOTHING to do with random laser-beam sound effects; it's entirely coincidental. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:27, 19 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd!!!''' Dag, yo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:09, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:36, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Writing a sound as a word is Otomotophoya. [[User: drivec|drivec]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
***The word is "Otomotopia". I'd really love to know where you got the "phoya" from. :-P --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:18, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
****Don't you both mean "[[Wikipedia:Onomatopoeia|Onomatopoeia]]"? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 11:02, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
*****Eh, I did a search and found the spelling I used. At least I had the right PRONUNCIATION. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:56, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
******"onomato" doesn't sound much like "otomoto", but you were mostly in the ball park, yes. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 20:31, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
*******FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! I...Er... I mean '''Second.''' - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===

====Quotation'd====
When the Intercom Robot announces the next band is Kissyboots, it says, "Next up is "Kissyboots ", without the second quotation mark.
*<s>'''Neutral for now''' I don't think that's true lemme go check up on that. I'm pretty sure you're wrong. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 11:56, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)</s>
*'''Decline''' I rewatched it and the second quotation is definitely in there. '''UNFACTUAL'D''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:02, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This isn't even good enough for STUFF. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

====Phantom Drummer?====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

*'''Decline.''' Presumably The Ugly One is playing it offstage. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**What? Did you not see when the Ugly One got Floor Tommed, Step Mommed, and Pom Pommed? It was pretty clear she was dead.[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 10:30, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
***True, and as we know, no-one ever comes back from the dead in Teen Girl Squad. That'd be far too unrealistic. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept''', actually, since it's quite true; The Ugly One was very much DEAD at that point in the flick. So... who was playing drums? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 11:17, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Its a suitable glitch. On the other hand, who really expects the Brothers Chap to redo the song each time one of the girls died? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:35, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:52, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**<s>'''Second'd'd!''' -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 17:01, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)</s>
**'''Second'd'd'd''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second'd'd'd'd''' I beat you all! -[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second'd'd'd'd'd''' No, I beat you. -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 08:34, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' -- All teen bands mime.
**'''What The??''' riiiight... -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
*'''accept.''' This is pretty obvious, but I'll let it slide... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]

====Guitar -> Shark====
The only possible interpretation of the guitar turning into a shark is that a bass (guitar) is being confused with a bass (fish)? Which would be the only reason to say "seaworthy"? Unfortunately there are no references on the Internet to "seaworthy bass". Am I missing some other joke here?
: Or SB's overactive imagination. After all, giant brain machines, suns becoming buzzsaws, and man-eating drums are the norm in TGS... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:45, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It's not a reference to anything, it's just a regular TGS bizzarre occurrence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:47, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Also the fish the bass (guitar) turns into is a shark, not a bass (fish) '''Decline''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Though technically a shark isn't a fish, but a mammal.
***Psst... that's whales. Sharks are very much fish. (Not as though that makes this fact any more viable.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:41, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

*'''Decline.''' Just because a concept is mentioned more than once doesn't mean the later instance is a reference to the earlier one. What's Her face is not a "bewildered freshman," or anything mentioned in the radio email
** Please sign your votes or they will not be counted. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' All of the girls' descriptions were some how related to a radio in some way. So it can be inferred that they were a reference to the e-mail. What's Her Face is not a "bewildered freshman," but merely college radio is the station she'd listen to. This is true because of The Ugly One's description of "listens to pine bark." --[[User:BegyLips|Begylips]]
*'''Decline''' for reasons stated by BegyLips. This isn't necessarily a reference to the radio e-mail, just showing the girls' musical tastes. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:51, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''accept''' What's He Face is always labelled with negative phrases, such as unpopular, pity friend, whatev, shop lifting, same clothes, Wants a new stepdad and Lice and More. So it makes sense for her radio taste to be "College Radio" because that is, an "utter misery" (according to Strong Bad).--82.44.103.117
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:42, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

====You Big Mouth!====
This is the only Teen Girl Squad issue to date with no appearance of the man with the big mouth, unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson.

*'''Decline.''' I'm the one who put this one on here. On [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]] character page, it clearly says that he ''is'' Mrs. So-and-so-erson. --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**But on the [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] page, it clearly says that she bears a striking resemblance to the Man with a Huge Mouth. And their synonymity is currenrly being disputed on both [[Talk:Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] and [[Talk:The Man with the Huge Mouth]]. I vote we abstain from voting until a consensus is reached. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***Correction: it USED to say she bears a striking resemblance. Somebody decided to remove that text that I added. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:13, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
****Well, it seems pretty presumptuous to me. I'm going to change the page to NPOV until we agree over whether they're the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]] 09:49, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I must agree. Actually, I added the "unless you count Mrs. So-and-so-erson" after the fact was added, mostly for that very reason. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:35, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

====Math again====
"Smartly Pretty" is spelled all in math terms/symbols. Such as a plus sign in place of the "T" in Smartly. This is the second time in which Math has been connected to Teen Girl Squad, with the first example being in the email [[virus]], in which the numbers of PI were an issue number.

*'''Decline/Rewrite.''' I don't think there's so much a connection between TGS and math; the band name has to do with So and So's being "math crazy." --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 17:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**How about: "Smartly Pretty is spelled with Math terms, which shows So and So's math obsession." --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
***'''Second''' that. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Why not just put it on So and So's bio page as a character quirk? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' So-and-So is just a nerd. Not notable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:37, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:52, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Soulbait ====
The Bass Guitar turning into a shark is most likely a reference to the music video Soulbait by Code of Ethics, which features musical intruments turning into fish.

* I know everybody wants to see their favorite band/reality TV series/collectible card game/leg referenced by TBC, but I'm just not believing that TBC were really making a direct reference to an obscure '90s Christian rock band that doesn't have so much as its own web site. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:52, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' That is, '''Decline''' for reasons stated above. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:00, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' But if this one gets removed, we're going to seriously have to take a look at some of the other Real life references that DID make the list (like the Saved by the Bell and Nickelodeon ones) that have even less to go on. - [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**If you think other facts should be removed, Donny, then put them on this page. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 12:19, 18 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Meh, doesn't matter that much. But if you are going to dismiss someone's fun fact on the grounds that its obscure, it really is only fair to go after equally obscure ones.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Decline''' for reasons stated above. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Makes sense to me--[[User:205.174.123.14|205.174.123.14]] 14:33, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== CGNU ====
The Girls probably go to CGNU, where Strong bad is the principal.

*'''Decline.''' It's been stated that they're in eighth grade (despite the "I'M FIVE YEARS OLDER AND IN COLLEGE!!!" from Cheerleader). At most, they're at the didn't-exist-until-I-started-typing-just-now Crazy Go Nuts Prep Academy, but it's much more likely that Strong Bad was just writing himself in to be cool. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 18:56, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''', as CGNU is meant to be a college of some sort (thus the "university").[[User:Donny vs Universe|# Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite, accept.''' I think this is clearly a reference to Strong Bad being the principal of CGNU. Perhaps saying something about that without saying that they go there would be more appropriate. [[User:209.175.21.2|209.175.21.2]]
**'''Second''' It's more of a reference to Strong Bad being the ''prinicpal'' of CGNU. :) Seriously though, this is a legitimate reference - the misspelling of "principal" is intentional. Perhaps a reference to the misspelling in the CGNU e-mail should go on the TGS8 page, while a mention of Strong Bad being "prinicpal" at both CGNU and the school attended by TGS should go on Strong Bad's bio page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:42, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

===[[dreamail]]===

==== C. elegans ====

The name "Chester Elegante" abbreviated "C. Elegante" might be a reference to the organism [[Wikipedia:C._elegans|"C. elegans"]].

* '''Neutral (for now)''' - I removed this since it screams of a BIG stretch, but there is SOME connection... I dunno, what do you all think? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:04, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline.''' Only because he never ''actually'' signs the email "C. Elegante," he signs it as "Chester Elegante." There might be some similarity, but it is a huge stretch to say TBC actaully planned that. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:39, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' BIG stretch. If TBC planned that, Strong Bad would have signed his email as "C. Elegante" instead of "Chester Elegante". [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 11:43, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Ping ====

The 'ping' on Strong Bad's submarine was taken from the 23 minute long Pink Floyd epic "Echoes"

*'''Decline.''' how can you tell? -- [[Keab42]]
*I posted this, and I can tell, because I've been listening to it(echoes) like, non stop for the past 4 days, and listened to them togethor(so it played the echoes one AND then I heard the one on the SBEMAIL). they ARE the same ping. Oh, and the ping is played in the very beggining, with NO other sounds so it's very easy to identify. It's also not just a wide spread sample, because the pianist actually 'found' the note and then suggested playing it through a leslie speaker cabinet(or something to that effect). I win. If you wanna hear for yourself: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html Once you get into the main site, click the blue box that will eventually appear that says 'echoes' then click 'listen' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:16, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' You beat me to it, Keab. ;) Whether or not the guy made it, it sounds pretty identical to a standard submarine ping to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Go listen to that link I posted if you don't believe me. Even if they're using it as a submarine ping, the fact that they took it from a song is notable. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 13:34, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This fun fact is based on speculation alone. Maybe if there were other Pink Floyd references on the site...
**'''Whaaaa?''' Speculation? Did you even read what I posted? I listened to both of the sounds togethor MULTIPLE TIMES not just go "ZOMG IT IS T3H PING ZOMG PINK FLOYD" But if noone else hears it, maybe I am going insane.
*n/m about this point...
**So... are you changing your vote to Decline? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' -- It's just a ping. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
*'''Accept''' You can absolutely tell that that is the ping from Echoes. It's the exact same pitch and time length. That can't be just a coincidence... --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:54, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''second''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Third''' -- It's definitely the same sound. If you import the clip from Echos into flash and publish a swf file to get the compression effect.. it sounds EXACTLY the same. [[User:Olene|olene]] 03:57, 23 Jan 2005
*'''Decline''' I thought all subs pinged. But when I heard this, it DOES remind of my dad's ol' DOS Wolfpack 8-bit 4-color sub hunting game. Subs in movies always ping.
**'''Comment''' All subs do ping, but this is the EXACT same ping as the one from Echoes. They to get the sound from somewhere, and if you listen to the song you'll be able to tell clearly that that's what it is. [[User:evin290|evin290]]
*Oh, please. There's no way to tell for sure. So...'''DELETED!''''
**I beg to disagree. If you actually listen to the song, there is a way to tell for sure. I've said this before but it's the exact same pitch and the same length of time. I bet you anything they ripped the ping noise from that song. If it sounded a little bit like it I would agree with you, but it's the exact same noise! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:47, 17 Jan 2005 (MST) (PS - Sign your posts!)
***Okay, now that someone else notices it, I'm not so sure if I'm still declining it...edit: now that two people notice it, i'm definetely not. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:19, 20 Jan 2005 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' It is more likely that the sub ping is a generic sound effect and that TBC and Pink Floyd happened to grab the exact same wav file of a sub ping. This would be like saying that when Mario enters a hidden area in Super Mario 64, it's a reference to Quake because the sound effect is very similar, if not identical to, a teleporter sound from Quake. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:15, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)</s>
**But that example isn't like saying that the ping is the same because that isn't the same exact sound. The ping is. It's a very unlikely chance that both TBC and Pink Floyd invented the same exact ping on the same exact note with the same amount of dissonance! (sp?) In my opinion that's just impossible! → [[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:46, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**And if you actually READ my above my comments, you'd notice Pink Floyd didn't download the ping(the song was made in 1971 for the lvoe fo god) the pianist of the group actually played the note through a leslie speaker cabinet, so it's not a coincidence. I think it should be a rule you can't decline it unless you've heard the song. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 23:51, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**I'm retracting my vote; the pings do sound strikingly similar. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 03:50, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Since I've been noticing a gigantic argument surrounding this particular fun fact, I'm going to propose a way to solve this.'''
:Now then, it seems that most of the individuals who are declining the fact are not very familiar with the song "Echoes." Since I personally don't believe in voting on a fun fact unless I actually know the details of the fact being disputed, I'm going to do something if others agree to this.
:I have an mp3 of "Echoes" (legally obtained from my personal copy of Meddle) on my hard drive, along with an mp3-to-wav converter and wav editing software. What I will do, if it's requested, is to take out an excerpt from the song "Echoes" (say, the first minute) and post it somewhere where everyone can hear it and draw their own conclusions.
:This way, everyone will have heard the fact in question and will make the voting far more fair. Anyone who thinks I should do this, please respond. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 00:14, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Personally I was abstaining from voting since I'd not heard the song... the clip'd help infinitely, methinks. Do it, please. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 00:25, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Definetely do it. I think a lot of people would realize that they are the same ping if it was easy to access.(but actually if you go here: http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes/index.html it plays the said pinging sound as the website opens, so...) --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 00:59, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
***The reason I want to take this particular approach, however, is the fact that I think a lot of people won't believe it's a sample from the song unless I get a clip from the actual song up here. You know how Kamek up above just thought it could've been the "same wav file" that both TBC and Pink Floyd used (though I don't even think that sort of technology had even been thought up of yet in friggin' 1971). --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 07:54, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
****Good point. Lets go with your idea...(goes off to headbang to The Nile Song) --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 10:06, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
****You can tell that my knowledge of Pink Floyd can fit between these parentheses: (). I was unaware the song was over 30 years old, thus my comment on wave files. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 03:54, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''I have an exerpt on my hard drive now, but nowhere to put it.''' Anyone have an idea where I can put this mp3 for now? Perhaps temporarily upload it to the Wiki, if that's alright by the mods? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 15:27, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Yousendit.com should be good(just send the link to yourself)
*[http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=27LFK8IK0YDAY0567BDQ6EVSG1 Echoes excerpt] - Done using the method suggested above, so I don't know how well it will work. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 11:56, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Severe decline. I listened to them at the same time and then alternating. One of them is a higher pitch than the other. But who cares? Why are people fighting so hard just for one fun fact? --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
:I only did what I did because it really grates on my nerves when people vote out of ignorance. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 21:34, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''good' Thats good to know you actually listened to it before declining. Keep in mind, the sound quality could effect it. Someone should host an SWF of the echoes excerpt, so we can REALLY confirm this...
*'''Decline''' At first I thought they were the same sound, and they do sound pretty similar, but after a close comparison in Goldwave, it's pretty clear the Chaps are just using a generic ping that sounds similar to this note. I've made an audio file for comparison purposes; the first sound is from Echoes, the second is from Dreamail, and the third is the ping from Echoes mixed into the Dreamail clip. [[Media:dreammail-echoes.ogg]] --[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 10:51, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Because you have to hear the song and really pay attention to a certain part, I believe that even if it is from the song, it's not fun enough, and also I don't think it's worth putting up fun facts that require anything that need proof from anything other than something easily accessable.

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Paper Doll Style ====

This is the only cartoon in which TBC use the "paper doll cut-out" visual style. Another older toon to have a unique visual style is In Search Of The Yello Dello.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this extremely obvious, but In Search Of The Yello Dello isn't exactly a unique visual style. The King Of Town DVD uses almost exactly the same style. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:39, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
** Well, no, it doesn't, but the Fun Fact is still useless. ('''Decline''') --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:14, 16 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's like saying that the puppet time shorts use puppets or that Teen Girl Squad is a comic book set to music and spoken words.
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' It may be obvious that THIS 'toon is done in paper-doll-cutout style, but it's not obvious that it's the ONLY 'toon of its kind, especially to a newcomer.
**'''Second''' -- cut out the bit about Yello Dello and you've got a good bit of trivia. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:17, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' It's an interesting idea, but I don't know if it needs to be a fun fact. But then again, where else would it go? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:42, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Does the paper doll style mimic an old cartoon show or something? It seems to me, what with the laugh track and the bizarre style, that the Brothers Chaps are paying homage to something specific. Anyway, if they are, it might be an interesting fact.

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
:*Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====

The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[homsar]] ===
==== Heavy Lourde ====
"Lourde" is French for "heavy."

*'''Decline.''' This is already stated on the Heavy Lourde page. -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:08, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Fact, yes. Fun...no. '''Decline'''. sorry. -- [[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline.''' Interesting, but as sterrence has said, it is on the Heavy Lourde page. I think the fact is interesting, though. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

=== [[20X6 vs. 1936]] ===

==== Dr Zoidberg ====

The Homestar Runner says Rhobut, Like Zoidberg in Futurama.
*'''Decline.''' That's nothing but a coincidence. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 21:37, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' This is a play on how they talked in old-timey cartoons, not about a character in a cartoon that only recently came out. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 05:00, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Although for some reason I thought of Zoidberg too when I watched this. -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:03, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Revise.''' I double-starred it because Futurama came out in the year 2000, and the 20x6 VS 1936 cartoon came out in 2003, therefore it may be a reference. Maybe say: ''The Homestar Runner says Ro-but, and this may be a possible reference to Zoidberg in Futurama who also says Ro-but.''--[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*many people say "robot" this way. '''decline'''ing it all the way, man. sorry. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline''' -- The Homestar Runner doesn't even know what a robot is, much less how to prounounce one (even though Stinkoman pronounced it for him). [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:22, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[2 years]] ===

==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

=== [[huttah!]] ===

====Title====
The email is called huttah! because that's what Strong Bad says when he slaps The Cheat's name onto the Compy.

*'''decline''' Worst 'fun fact' I've ever seen. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:24, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' I'm not going to decline this, because I never noticed this myself, but I'm not accepting it because that may just be my short attention span. ._.; --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Decline.''' "This email is called [[old comics]] because that's what we see during Strong Bad's narration." "This email is called [[the facts]] because this is the format Strong Bad uses to explain the answer to the question." "This email is called [[flag day]] because the emailer wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day." And so on, ad absurdum. Laughable. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.'''--[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 16:43, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:21, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Flashback is called Flashback cause SB has one.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:38, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice it either. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:22, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second''' --p[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
*'''Decline''' I don't know about you guys, but I noticed it the first time I watched. Fairly obvious if you ask me... --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:51, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
*'''Second anything that says Decline.''' Big fat duh. [[User:Ian|Ian]] 20:40, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' I'll say it again. DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===

==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
Oh yeah, I used the SWF file for this, and I had an insane amount of time because that's the only SB thing I had during my vacation...

*'''Revise but Accept''' This is very interesting, although we do not know how far off the screen the grabbo arm goes. You should judge by the ratio of the hight of the diamond-shaped workings of the grabbo arm and the length of the grabbo arm itself to find out how long it actually is. Then determine how long it is in proportion to Strong Bad. Needs a bit more work, but it could be a very interesting fact!
*'''Decline.''' Hmmm... TBC don't really pay attention to scale (see the DVD commentary for [[flag day]] and [[new hands]]), so I don't think this method of figuring real-life measures of length are relevant. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 21:57, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' There's a way to find out for sure how far off the screen it went. Save the Flash file to your computer. now squish the window verticly then stretch it out so you can see it in sort of a WIDESCRRRRREEEEEEEEN version to see what you don't on the webpage.

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Egg Nog Glass ====
The glass of egg nog The Cheat is holding is the same one seen in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].

*'''Decline''' As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd.''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:45, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== Dripping Sound ====
The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Decline.''' Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:kerrek_slaya|kerrek_slaya]]
**'''Second.''' Wasn't this already discussed (and dismissed) regarding Coach Z's towel in the last Halloween toon? [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====

The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Alms for the poor ====

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I disagree with the "silly" comment above, I do agree that it's not much of a fun fact. "Alms for the poor" is just a regular old saying. People used to say it a long time ago. Just because Homsar says some nonsensical thing that was clearly based on that saying doesn't mean theres a fact, a reference or any fun in there! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Wrong. '''Accept.''' It's true and should be referenced as such.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
**Please sign your vote, unsigned votes do not count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:36, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' While Homsar's saying is indeed a play on the old saying, it's well-known to most people and can be figured out easily. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:37, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And somebody slap whoever is posting the same "silly cartoon" reply for every STUFFed fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

==== Charlie Brown ====

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Wizard of Oz ====

Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Beat It ====

Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --[[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Alms for the pudgy, paintbrush ringing, and '''Accept''' the rest. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Big Time! But with edit: "The piano nightshirt Homestar wears is the same as Michael Jackson's in the "Beat It" music video." Not sure how you'd call this speculation - it's quite specific, and funny as hell, more so than Weird Al wearing it in "Eat It". And racerx, what exactly are you getting at here?--[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 13:53, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Marzipan's Purse ====
This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.

*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Screentime ====

The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.

*'''Decline.''' Unimportant fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''complain about you''' STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!!
**'''Second!''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' No matter how popular he is the website's called homestarrunner.com not thecheat.com.
**'''Complain!'''Nitpicky, ain't we? Who cares? '''ACCEPT!''' Just to shut you ip [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Homestar always confuses have and has ====
Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"

* No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English [[User:24.21.86.243|24.21.86.243]] 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second''' Worse still, his use of "has" in this case is grammatically correct. --````
*'''Decline.''' Similar phrase, massive stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Coach Z's Phone ====

Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====

It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

*'''Decline''', if only because I'm not sure what this means. It's riddled with poor spelling and grammar and doesn't make a lot of sense. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Accept''', Here, let me revise this a bit. If Homestar had been sleeping since the 23rd, how did his calender get set to the 25th? [[User:James|--[[User:James|James]]]] (I'm not logged in)
**'''Second''', I'm the one that wrote this one. Thanks James for revising. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**Had he been sleeping since the 23rd? Since he complains about having set his alarm for 10 pm, it implies that he went to bed on the night of the 24th. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise and Accept''' as per James' suggestion, but not in the form of a question. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:38, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz~]]
**'''Second.''' It is notable. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 06:29, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline or Revise.''' We have no way of knowing that he went to bed on the 23rd. Decemberween could have just snuck up on him like days do to people sometimes. Haven't you even woken up and realized with a start, "Oh, crap, it's Monday!" when you have something important? Furthermore, it's ''Homestar.'' He needs no excuse to be confused. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 14:46, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' No,No I haven't. [[User:Xycho|Xycho]]
*This is probably incorrect but still worth noting as it's a common understanding of the cartoon (I assumed he went to bed on the 23rd, and so did my mother, and apparently some other people on this wiki). I've added this: --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:46, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
*:If Homestar slept through December 24 (as many assume after watching this toon), he could not have changed his tear-away calendar to the 25th. An alternative explanation is that Decemberween simply snuck up on him.
*'''Decline or Rewrite''' --Your taking a cartoon too serious.[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**Which is entirely the point of fun facts, my good sir. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Neutral''' OK OK. sheesh. 23rd, 24th, BIG WHOOP. just fix MY mistake and leave it at that. [[User:Xhycho|Xhycho]]

==== Alms for the Pudgy ====

Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"

*'''Decline.''' The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 22:12, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's a known phrase. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:26, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== 1 on 1 ====

This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation. In [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], it was really Strong Bad, and in [[army]] he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.

*'''Decline.''' Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see [[theme park]]). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park. sorry bout that. XD - [[user:super orange!|super orange]]

==== Electrical Tape? ====

Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.

*'''Decline.''' That was duct tape. Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
**'''Second.''' What is this "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape"? - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second'''. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
*'''Accept.''' If ever one loved his electrical tape, twas Pom Pom.

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

(Correction: I made a mistake. The line in the song is "'''I'm''' a real straight shooter" Homsar is talking in the second person. (re: "''Hi, Wonder Mike''" in his characters video.) [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 29, 2004 7:34 PM (PST)

''Am I allowed to add this to the main page now?'' [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Jan 09, 2005 12:40 AM

*'''Decline'''-- But only because I think it is more like "You're a real trooper" with "state" put in. [[User: PaxMan356|PaxMan356]] Dec 28, 2004 2:22 PM (EST)
**'''Second''' Yeah. [[User: Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]] Jan 2, 2005 3:52 PM (EST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second''' (Although FYI: without the "state," it would be "You're a real ''trouper''," with an ''-ou-'', not ''-oo-''. ''Trouper'' = one who handles adversity well.) [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I't sounds pretty reasonable that it is a reference to the misheard lyrics. that would fit in with his normal type of speech,wouldn't it? --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*<s>'''Neutral''' If someone could confirm that these are commonly misheard lyrics, I'd accept it, but a google search for the phrase only shows links related to Homsar.</s> --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:23, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* Decline Janik

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)

===[[homestar hair]]===

==== Losing his touch ====

Strong Bad sure seems to be losing his touch lately. This is the second email in a row, after "butt IQ", that is not funny.

*'''Very very very strong Decline.''' And don't need to say why. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 12:44, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
** I think this vote should be discounted because there is no reason provided.
*** Read the rules. You don't need to provide a reason except on a Revise/Rewrite vote. Anyway, it won't matter in this case since the fact has unanimous declines so far. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:41, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; That's opinion, not fact. In fact, this shouldn't even have been STUFF'd. This isn't "Select The Usable Fun Opinions". --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:31, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
** What? Not the STUFO page? Oh, then I guess there isn't any reason not to '''DECLINE''' then. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:08, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' - This page is SO getting out of hand. People are REALLY reaching... especially when they're submitting bald-faced lies, er, bald-faced opinions as facts. I know we're not supposed to say so, but this one should be '''DELTEATED''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:30, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''EXTREME Decline''' --[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 14:14, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' We have no documented record of anybody laughing at either of these emails, besides laughing at how not-funny they are.

=== [[animal]] ===

====Sterrance====
Sterrance's feet look remarkably like the feet of Mickey Mouse

*'''Accept'''. It makes sense. The Sterrance page says he looks like a doodle from Disney's Toontown, and Mickey Mouse is also a Disney character. And They do look like his feet ----68.236.51.28
*'''Decline.''' It doesn't seem that way to me... I'd definitely not say that they look "remarkably" similar.
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== check out all my dimensions ====
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." This may be a reference to [[stunt double]], "Check out all my dimensions."

*'''Comment.''' Part of a fun fact was removed due of another vote, and I've decided to STUFF the remaining part (because, at the very least, it's not clear WHY this is a reference). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:09, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Pfff. Doubtful. Weak '''decline'''. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This has been up awhile, and while it appears that a rewrite is needed, no one has proposed one. Perhaps someone could do that? --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:03, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move it.''' This goes on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page! --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]

==== The Price is Right... Again ====
The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.

*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
Lappy is in the style of many game shows.</pre>
:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Prime doesn't work on my television so I wouldn't know --- Bobcat
*'''Comment.''' Theoretically, the rewrite should be added, but it appears that this was selected before the note in the transcript was brought up, possibly before it was added. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:45, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Weird laptop ====
After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)

*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline''' because: a) The [[http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112174|Mac Portable]] (1989) had a screen resolution of 640x400. That's a 1.6:1 ratio which is pretty close to Lappy's. b) Compy's screen ratio is pretty much 1.5:1. Isn't that a little off from normal desktop monitors? I think even "back then" they should have been close to 1.33:1. We're not making a big deal about Compy's aspect ratio being off, so I wouldn't make one over Lappy's either. --[[User:ryandesign|ryandesign]] 04:29, 23 Dec 2004 (CET)
*'''Declare Null and Void.''' This fact is already stated on the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] page. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Decline'''-- Your taking a cartoon too seriously. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**There would be no STUFF if not for that. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== Babies havin' babies ====
Could be a reference to this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088759/

* '''Decline.''' I'm not familiar with the phrase, but it appears to be common. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:36, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Probably a coincidence, a pun on "brother pitted aginst brother". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====

When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[virus]] ===

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt>
*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school. That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Comment.''' I've tallied the voted here. I have 7 to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This is inconclusive, and I'm adding a section to the talk page about it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Huh? It doesn't even make logical sense to even think about something that obvious, much less to actually say it. --[[User:Ingeniousknight|Ingeniousknight]]
**You must sign your vote, or it won't be counted. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]]
*'''Decline.''' This is rather obvious, don't you think? It's like saying that a magnetic pull formula is a scientific formula used to measure magnetic pull! Geez! --[[User:evin290|evin290]]
*'''Moify and accept''' Saying that pi is an "infinite number" is a bit deceptive; just saying that the number is the first digits of pi should be good enough.

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Maybe just
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"),
which is an infinite number.
: Or something like that.-- [[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said. Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' This is very old, but it is inconclusive (the result could change based on what system is used to count the votes). It also appears to have been added in modified form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:53, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
**'''Second.''' --Superdotman
**Actually, during the part of [[New Boots]] that is actually the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video, Coach Z is briefly in 3D. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
*** Those aren't the only times. One SBE has 3D pictures. The 3D images are in many different parts of the website.
*'''Comment.''' Old but inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:00, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Decline''' That'd ruin the surprise if they did that. --[[User:Cleve Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Comment.''' This vote appears very confusing, but it looks like a "decline" to me, as half of the votes are decline (meaning that nothing else could get a majority). Nevertheless, I've decided to leave it until a definite voting system is established --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:12, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!I'm tired of brackets!]]
*'''Comment.''' Even though this clearly won (without the specific email reference), the transcript currently notes that the sound is Homsar's walking noise. This apparently changed since the vote, and I don't think it would be appropriate to add it now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:22, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy
*Not a vote, but another related comment: The point of having the old date (and "version 1.0.0") indicates that not only was Strong Bad using the Internet irresponsibly, but didn't update his virus checking software. Ever. [[user:miket61|miket61]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old enough to be done, but the result is inconclusive. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:26, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I say we add the proposed revision. Of course, I ''would'' say that. -- [[User:FireLily|FireLily]] 19:03, 1 Jan 2005 (EST)
**'''Comment.''' I agree, but of course I ''would'' as well. There are 5 votes to decline, 6 votes to rewrite, and 3 to accept. Rewrite doesn't actually have a majority, and I'd like to avoid setting a precedent of going by a simple majority. By the system I proposed on the talk page, we would try first to accept without changes (3 votes for accept as is, 11 votes not to), and then try to accept with the most popular revision (9 votes for, 5 against). So I'm just going to add this to the page and, uh, leave the discussion here for now. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:13, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Keep the mention of Fred Cohen, cuz he is cool.

==== Gilligan's Island? ====
The "And the rest" may be a reference to the first Gilligan's Island theme song, where the chorus sang some of the main character's name but then just sang "and the rest" instead of the other's names.

*'''Keep''' -- Was thinking the same thing. -- [[User:olene|olene]]
*'''Decline''' -- I was thinking the refrence is more to "the rest" of pi. -- [[User:Kilana|Kilana]]
*'''Weak Accept.''' This is probably true, however in the middle of the series, they changed the lyric "and the rest" to "the professer and Marianne" considering that the only two people left were just as important as the others, and two people hardly constitutes as "the rest." Back to topic: this is a very likely reference to that. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' TBC could have just as easily said "etc." or "and so on", but "and the rest" is a quaint way of putting it. I immediately thought of 'Giligan's Island' at the time, and don't believe it's a coincidence. --[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
*'''Decline.''' I very much doubt it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Strong Sad's blog ====
When Strong Sad walks up and ask Strong Bad about a virus, his pixilated face is probably a referance to Strong Sad's blog (A.K.A. Strong Sad's Lament) from the e-mail website. On each post it shows his mood, and they are the same one that Strong SAd has hovering, they are probably pixiated because it enlarged the image's from the blog.
*'''Decline''' part of it is already in transcript, rest of it is blaringly obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:58, 23 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 10:13, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Computer Viruses ====
Computer viruses exist in the real world in addition to cartoons. Norton Anti Virus says I have twelve viruses on my computer right now (a new personal record).
*'''Delete a thousand times over''' This is probably the dumbest thing I've seen in my entire life. Wow... You're a moron. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:19, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I didn't know that.
** You're just trolling, aren't you? '''DELETE IT!!''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:36, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*I thought I knew what ridiculous was until this day. '''DELETED!''' --Tom H. (Homesmash Brother)
*'''Delete in an hour''' --[[User:No Loafing|No Loafing]] 14:16, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Everybody knows that. --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 10:12, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Price Style ====

Price Style is most likely mocking Wal-Mart, with it's 'low, low prices everyday'.

*'''Decline.''' Many stores have slogans that say low, low prices everyday. Wal-Mart's slogan is actually "Always Low Prices. Always," so you really can't say based on that that Wal-Mart is being mocked. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

==== Reynold's Wrap ====
Reynold's Wrap is a common type of commodity you would find in a supermarket, or even a non-super market.

*'''Accept''' This is obviously true. -- [[User:olene|olene]] 06:12, NOV 5 1955 (XST)
**'''Second and possibly Third''' You just can't "beat the DEET". -- [[User:olene|olene]] 03:99, JAN 31 2½05 (AST)
*'''Severe Decline''' Umm, so what? There's no mention of Reynold's Wrap in the toon. This should be removed. -- [[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:40, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Comment.''' This is old. It appears that a rewrite with more explanation would be accepted, but none has been proposed. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 17:38, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===

==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===

==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)

=== [[anything]] ===

==== Dan VS. Jerome ====
The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.

*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s>
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad." -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Except you, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails. In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome." Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
****No comparison? How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
******I don't think so. In fact, since "Zack" and "Jack" are much more similar than "Dan" and "Jerome", the old comics incident is actually less obvious. So, while I still maintain that both deliberately noting it in the transcript and putting it in Fun Facts is awkward and not needed, if we do, then we should at least do the same on [[old comics]]. --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]
*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above. People will probably catch this after watching it a few times. Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript. This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
**I reiterate: [[old comics]] was more subtle. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*This appears to be accepted, but someone has already added it in a different form. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Too obvious for words →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:10, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Delete''' The e-mail is actually from "Dan", and Strong Bad refers to him as "Jerome"

=== [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] ===

==== The Only Time? ====
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
**Probably not. [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] does all the voices in the Powered By the Cheat cartoons. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s>
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

====Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts ====
In one scene, when Marzipan is walking, you can clearly tell that her mouth is gone.

*'''Delete''' Already mentioned in the Transcript. --[[User:Ooy|Ooy]]
*'''Accept''' The transcript mentions that Marzipan has no mouth, but not that this can be "clearly told".
*'''Decline''' Frankly, Mr. Anonymous, I fail to see the difference in this case. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:16, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' As mentioned, it's in the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== hellboy ====
"Pamcakes" might be referring to a two page story which appears in Mike Mignola's "Right Hand of Doom" graphic novel in the "Hellboy" stable. The 2004 film version also contains this mispronounciation of the word.

*'''Decline'''--Just a Cleaver Homestarism. [[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]]
**'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 10:01, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' TBC were going to dress Homestar as Hellboy for halloween, so it's possible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:43, 15 Jan 2005 (MST)

==== scoreboard ====
The score board behind Homestar in the easter egg changes numbers even though it is not turned on.

*'''Accept.''' I missed that somehow.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 19:35, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' In the transcript. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Comment''' The transcript does not note that the scoreboard is turned off. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:32, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Well, it says that the arena is dark, which implies it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Slightly Decline''' The scoreboard may not be turned off. It may not be lit, so much as it displays the number. So, ''in theory'', it could be on.

==== ketchup ====
The ketchup Strong Bad pours on his french fries is the same ketchup from the easter egg in [[funny]]

*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''BALEET!''' TBC reuse images all the time! →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:58, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 09:59, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Pants ====
Homestar wears pants in the "Im The Best" Easter egg.This is possibly the first time Homestar
wears pants.

=== [[pizzaz]] ===

==== Biscuit Dough Relations ====
Biscuit Dough Man is related to Strong Bad and therefore is also related to Strong Mad, Strong Bad, and The Cheat. This is not the only Homestar Runner relationship; Marzipan is the King of Town's father.

*'''Decline.''' What? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:34, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Let's roll through this with you. Biscuit dough hands man is not related to anybody! He's an "artist's interpretation" of what Strong Bad would look like. Why is the Cheat in this list? He's not related to the Brothers Strong. Marzipan is a woman and she is young. How could she be the king of town's ''father?'' Overall, I'd have to say that this is not very smart. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:25, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Talk about getting your genders mixed up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 13:35, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:ultragm2003|ultragm2003]] 09:58, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Very very very strong decline''' 1. What does this add to the pizazz article? 2. What evidence do we have that SB and BDHM are related? 3. What do the other relationships even have to do with the original (useless) fact in question? 4. How is The Cheat related to the Brothers Strong? 5 and 6. The '''King of Town''' is no longer stated to be '''Marzipan's''' father. What genius added this? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:48, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Prepetually Accept''' It's obvious here that Marzipan has had several (possibly successful) sex-change operations as noted in the following emails: [[virus]] [[50 emails]] [[i love you]] [[sbemail_22]] [[flashback]]. Furthermore, it makes sense that Marzipan is the King of Town's father and not the other way around because if the King of Town had a child, he would have eaten it. Case closed.
**What the heck are you talking about? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:13, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)
**If you're trying to be funny, you're not doing a very good job.
:Why don't we just get rid of this one, it's pretty obvious it's going to fail... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:09, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Who's to say that BDHM and SB aren't R?
** Who's to say that they are? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:27, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' How about this edit:
Biscuit Dough Hands Man may or may not be related to Strong Bad, Strong Mad, Strong Bad, and the Cheat.
The King of Town is no longer stated to be Marzipan's father, but Marzipan may be the King of Town's father.
* Ha. Ha. And ha some more. '''STILL FREAKING DECLINE''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:20, 4 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''DECLINE.''' This is such a waste of wiki-space... And whoever is putting "prepetually accept," "accept" and "revise" needs to sign to even be considered... I say we trick out our fists with a nice backwards "Deleted" and punch this fun fact in the face. →[[User:jake-a-roonie|jake-a-roonie]] 06:19, 07 Feb 2005 (CST)
* This sounds like a cool and interesting fact. Uhh, no wait I lied, it's stupid as anything. '''DECLINED'''
*'''Decline.''' I almost feel like accepting the rewrite, it made me laugh so much. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==== Biscuit Dough Hands Man ====
This is sort of an add-on to a Fun Fact already mentioned on the page, but...

After Strong Bad interviews himself during this edition of the Strong Bad Interview-Type Progrum, the mention of next episode's interview with Biscuit Dough Hands Man holds a hidden joke, seeing that Biscuit Dough Hands Man is, in fact, Strong Bad (or at least, Bubs' artistic impression of him). So once again, Strong Bad will be interviewing "himself."

*'''Very Weak Decline.''' Biscuit Dough Hands Man isn't Strong Bad, neccessarily. Considering Coach Z's recognition of him (although Zee's a little bit short in the sanity department,) he could actually be a real person. Or just a made-up one, which is why it's funny that strong bad's interviewing him... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 06:38, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
'''SUPERDECLINE'''---DELEETED

*'''Accept.''' Unlike the insane "Biscuit Dough Relations" crap above, this one makes sense...and is true, or at least noteworthy. Whoever put "Superdecline," please learn how to spell DELETED, and sign your comment! →[[User:jake-a-roonie|jake-a-roonie]] 06:12, 07 Feb 2005 (CST)
*'''Accept.''' True, subtle and interesting. Exactly what makes a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

=== credit card ===

==== At Homestarrunner dot net ====

This email implies that Homestar Runner has an email address, which we have no reason to believe because he is always using Strong Bad's computer.

* '''Decline''' I do not like this fact, but I don't feel right simply deleting it. Your call, people? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:33, 2 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Accept''' - Dingell
* '''Accept, maybe revise''' It IS Homestar's website after all...so of course there would be an email address for him. Also, we haven't seen in Homestar's house as extensively as Strong Bad's. So he may have a computer... It just seems that he likes to fiddle with Strong Bad's computer anytime he sees it. I actually think the more interesting fun fact here is that Homestar can SPELL! →[[User:jake-a-roonie|jake-a-roonie]] 06:22, 07 Feb 2005 (CST)
** But if that's true, then the fact doesn't need to be revised - it needs to be rewritten or thrown out! (Yes, there's a difference between revision and rewriting.) The fact implies that Homestar SHOULDN'T have an e-mail address, while you very clearly stated that he should. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:28, 7 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Decline''' Since we're dealing with "implications" and "reasons to believe", I don't find this to be in any way factual. The first part alone would suffice, albeit with a decent rewrite, but the second part is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:21, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' He's not "always" using Strong Bad's computer; he's only used it once or twice. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

==Games==

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===

====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== General ==

=== Cross-Toon Facts ===

==== Trust ====
In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him." This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" SpongeBob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.
*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Decline''' Ditto. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]
**'''Second.''' Duh and Double Duh →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:12, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I seem to remember voting on this before. Is this its second appearance? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I thought more of 'Ferris Bueller's Day Off' where Principal Ed Rooney says this of Ferris. →''<tt>[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]</tt>''
**'''Second.''' Yeah. i remember that. " You shouldn't be Throwing anything with your back the way it is". erm....something like that

==== Parents ====
*When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
** '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
** '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.

Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer

2005-02-11T17:26:11Z

Hysterical Woman: more details

[[Image:peasantsquestmovie.jpg|thumb|right|TROGDOR!!!]]
Rather Dashing, Trogdor, and others appear in the epic film adaptation of the acclaimed [[Peasant's Quest|video game]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Rather Dashing]], [[Kerrek]], [[Jhonka]], [[The Red and Blue Knights]], [[Poor Gary]], [[King of Peasantry]], [[Trogdor]], [[Baby Lady]], [[The Baby]], [[Mendelev]], [[Dongolev]], [[Naked Ned]], Pterodactyl, [[The Three Keepers of Trogdor]]

==Transcript==
'''NARRATOR:''' It began as the best selling video computer TV game of all time. Uh- Not really, but still.

''{Cut to a shot of the Peasant's Quest video game.}''

'''NARRATOR:''' A simple peasant wearing short pants quested his way into the heart of the nation. Now, for his greatest adventure yet, he will quest... INTO THEATERS!!

''{The video game Rather Dashing fades into a real-life version of him.}''

'''RATHER DASHING:''' Where's my cottage?

''{Fade through black to Rather Dashing in his burninated cottage.}''

'''RATHER DASHING:''' TROGDOR!!!

''{A few random scenes pass on by, before the Videlectrix logo shows up. It is soon modified to "Videlectrix Films". Cut to a throne room. Rather Dashing is in front of the King of Peasantry.}''

'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' We have coexisted with the Burninator in these lands for centuries. ''{Quick clips of a map of Peasantry and peasants being terrorized by a CGI Trogdor pass by.}'' I can't have you marching up there in your short pants upsetting the balance!

'''RATHER DASHING:''' I'll upset YOUR balance, my lord!

'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' Rather Dashing, you will not sass back at this council!

'''NARRATOR:''' From the sort of people who brought you Trogdor and Litigation Jackson...

''{Rather Dashing walks up to Poor Gary.}''

'''RATHER DASHING:''' Easy now Gary, I'm just going to WEAR MASK.

''{He does so, and Gary whinnies and runs away. Cut to inside a cottage.}''

'''LADY PEASANT:''' Show me you're a real man, Rather Dashing.

''{Cut to a lake.}''

'''RATHER DASHING:''' THROW... BABY... ahhh!

''{He throws the baby. Cut to a forest.}''

'''MENDELEV AND DONGOLEV:''' Haldo!

'''MENDELEV:''' I'm Mendelev...

'''DONGOLEV:''' I'm Dongolev...

''{We see a shot of Naked Ned peering out from behind a tree.}''

'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' Rather Dashing? More like Rather Homely!

''{We see Rather Dashing eating a meatball sub. Cut back to the Archery. Mendelev is helping him train.}''

'''NARRATOR''': A Trog-venture for the whole Trog-Family!

''{Cut to the outside of the Inn. Rather Dashing runs out screaming, with the pot of grease over his head. He hits the side of the Inn, and falls down. Cut to the Jhonka, who seems to just be a human beating the ground. Cut to the archery.}''

'''RATHER DASHING:''' I'm just SO mad at Trogdor...

''{Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''

'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' Access to Trogdor is strictly for peasants!

''{Rather Dashing frowns. Cut back to Archery.}''

'''RATHER DASHING:''' He just goes around burning things and doesn't even care!

''{Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''

'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' You don't smell like a peasant...

''{Cut to the Kerrek, jumping around. Rather Dashing is next to him, battling him, kills him, and gets his belt. Cut to Trogdor Cave entrance.}''

'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' You don't dress like a peasant...

''{Cut to Rather Dashing battling the Jhonka. Rather Dashing puts on the peasant clothes.}''

''{Cut to Trogdor Cave Entrance}''

'''BLUE KNIGHT:''' And you certainly aren't ON FIRE like a peasant! ''{his helmet lid slams shut as he says "peasant"}''

''{Cut to the rocky top of Trogdor's Cave. An on-fire Rather Dashing is climbing it. As Rather Dashing maintains grip on top, a pterodactyl flies by.}''

'''NARRATOR:''' A quest for adventure! A quest for revenge!

''{Trogdor screams and breathes his horrible fire. The Three Guards, who suddenly appear, wave their hands. Cut to the very top of the cave. It's night, and a giant full moon appears in the background. Rather Dashing climbs up and holds a shining sword up.}''

'''NARRATOR:''' A quest... for a peasant! Peasant's Quest!

''{The Peasant's Quest logo appears. Rather Dashing struggles to keep the sword up, and then lets it fall. Cut to film creation credits. Cut to the King's Castle.}''

'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' And the Trogdor comes... in the night.

'''RATHER DASHING:''' Not tonight he doesn't... come... in the night... Trogdor.

''{Cut to Trogdor. He breathes fire. Cut to the Peasant's Quest Logo.}''

==Fun Facts==
[[Image:pq_trailer_end_credits.png|thumb|right|Ending Credits]]
===Trivia===
*This was labeled as "Super Bowl halftime!!" on the main page, because The Brothers Chaps put this trailer up at halftime of the [[Wikipedia:Super Bowl XXXIX|2005 Super Bowl]].
*These are the single largest Flash files on the entire site, with the 2.6 MB "Jhonka" trailer being over one and a half times larger than the runner-up, [[Puppet Jam: Tropical Lazor Beams]].
*When this trailer was first put up at halftime, the size and popularity of the file apparently overloaded TBC's server. Because of this, the original 13.4 MB file was removed mid-Monday morning and was temporarily replaced with a closeup of Rather Dashing and a note saying that he would be back. By late morning, that was replaced with a screen enabling you to choose which file size you wanted to download: "Jhonka" (2.6 MB), "Kerrek" (5.4 MB), or "Trogdor" (10.3 MB).
*The loading screen used to read "loading a fairly big deal", but it now says "rather loading", refering to Rather Dashing.
*The ending credits read:
<pre> Videlectrix Films
in relative association with
Thorax Legitimate present

"Peasant's Quest: The Movie:
The Dashing Adventures of Rather Dashing
Or Trogdor's Big Movie"

Matt Chapman Z. Gillespie Lucky Yates
Matt Gribbon Jackie Chapman Rene Delefont
Jonathan Howe Ryan Sterritt Christian Danley
editor Ryan Sterritt cinematographer Ryan Sterritt/Mike Chapman
original score Mike Chapman/Jonathan Howe
pterydactyl wrangler Matt Chapman cartographer R. Craig Zobel

Directed by Lem Sportsinterviews</pre>
*Many of the people listed in the credits are mentioned elsewhere on the site: [[Ryan Sterritt]] helped create the [[strongbad_email.exe|Strong Bad Email DVD]]. Jackie Chapman is [[Matt Chapman]]'s wife, [[Craig Zobel]] helps write some of the cartoons and [[Jonathan Howe]] helps with many of the games.
*The word "pterodactyl" is incorrectly spelled "pterydactyl" in the end credits.
*These credits are clickable for some reason (at least in the 13.4 MB & "Trogdor" versions); however, doing so doesn't seem to activate any easter eggs.
*When Rather Dashing is climbing up the mountain, and you see him from the front, the background is that of the Stone Mountain trail to the top. It is a large granite mountain near Atlanta, near where [[The Brothers Chaps]] live.
*We see that Craig Zobel is credited as the "cartographer", meaning he drew the map of [[Peasantry]].
*When Rather Dashing puts on the mask and when he throws the baby, he speaks the actual commands from the game, e.g. "throw baby".
*This is the first appearance of Jackie Chapman (Matt's wife) in a [[Homestar Runner (flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]] feature.
*The [[Scalding Lake]] shirt that Rather Dashing (played by Matt Chapman) is wearing is presumably the same one worn by Matt in the [[G4techTV Interview - 24 Jan 2005|G4techTV Interview]] several weeks prior to the trailer's release.

===Inside References===
*The movie is directed by [[Leomard Sportsinterviews]], well known for his book ''[http://www.homestarrunner.com/amazon.html This Book is Better Than 1st, 2nd and Quite Possibly 3rd Base]'', among other things.
*''[[Litigation Jackson]]'' was the fictional movie mentioned in [[A Decemberween Pageant]].
*Many of the clips in this preview are taken directly from the [[Peasant's Quest]] game, including:
**Scaring [[Poor Gary]], the horse
**Throwing [[The Baby]] in the water
**Talking to the [[Baby Lady]]
**The [[Kerrek]] pounding Rather Dashing into the ground.
**Taking Kerrek's belt in the rain
**Mendelev and Dongolev teaching you how to shoot an arrow
**Fighting The [[Jhonka]] (though you don't actually fight him in the game)
**Rather Dashing was eating the meatball sub even though he didn't eat it in the game.
**Naked Ned appearing from behind the tree
**Rather Dashing's "Scalding Lake" vacation shirt
**Rather Dashing with the pot stuck over his head
**The guard's explanation of why Rather Dashing cannot see Trogdor
**Climbing the mountain to Trogdor's lair
**Getting pebbles
*When [[The Three Keepers of Trogdor]] are waving in the cave (after CG-Trogdor), the reptilian creature flying in the background makes the same noise as [[Mrs. Commanderson]].
*The Peasantry Map includes places such as:
**The Frumpish Mountians (sp)
**The Slightly Dangerous Fields
**That Weird Tree (you know)
**Trogdor's Keep
**Clackum Falls
*The music and ending lines ("And the Trogdor comes in the night!") are taken from Strong Bad's Trogdor song in the email [[dragon]].
*"Thorax Legitimate" is refering to the [[Thorax Corporation]].
*"Video computer TV game" is a possible reference to the easter egg in [[Peasant's Quest Preview]], where the first [[Videlectrix]] programmer says, "I'm supposed to release a video computer game on TV without this graphic!"

===Real-World References===
*"Trogdor's Big Movie" may be a reference to the ''Winnie the Pooh'' movie, ''[[Wikipedia:Piglet's Big Movie|Piglet's Big Movie]]''.
*The heading "A [[Lem Sportsinterviews]] Joint" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Spike Lee|Spike Lee]]'s movies which are called "A Spike Lee Joint."
*The blue knight's helmet slamming shut when he says something in anger may be a reference to a similar thing happening to the character Dark Helmet in the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Spaceballs|Spaceballs]]'' or Sir Bedevere in the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Monty Python and the Holy Grail|Monty Python and the Holy Grail]]''.
*The Guardians' hands being waved in the air near the end are reminiscent of the Helping Hands from the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Labyrinth (film)|Labyrinth]].''
*The battle between Rather Dashing and Jhonka is reminiscent of Frodo's battle with Gollum at the end of ''[[Wikipedia:The Return of the King (book)|The Return of the King]]'' and even more reminiscent of Smeagol and Deagol's battle at the beginning.
*Before the Videlectrix Films logo, there is the scene melee. One of the shots is of a man fighting in siloute form behind a blue sky, the same scene is in Kill Bill Volume 2.
*The screaming of Jhonka in the first sighting is similar to the screaming of zombies in ''[[Wikipedia:Half-Life 2|Half-Life 2]]''.

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.html view the menu ]
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle_jhonka.html view the Jhonka-sized trailer]
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle_kerrek.html view the Kerrek-sized trailer]
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle_trogdor.html view the Trogdor-sized trailer]

*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.swf view the flash file for the menu]
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle_jhonka.swf view the flash file for the Jhonka-sized trailer]
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle_kerrek.swf view the flash file for the Kerrek-sized trailer]
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle_trogdor.swf view the flash file for the Trogdor-sized trailer]

*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1967 forum thread re: "Movie Trailer"]

=== Temporary Mirrors ===
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com.nyud.net:8090/filmstyle.html Coral Cache] (Current version)
*[http://www.jellob.com/filmstyle.html JelloB.com Mirror] (Original 13.1 MB toon)
*[http://www.hsrforum.com/files/filmstyle.html HSRForum.com Mirror] (Original 13.1 MB toon)
*[http://www.everybodytothelimit.com/mirror/filmstyle.swf EverybodyToTheLimit.com Mirror] (Original 13.1 MB Flash file only)

[[Category:Peasant's Quest]][[Category:Shorts]][[Category:Kerrek Filmography]][[Category:Trogdor Filmography]]

Mountain Dew

2005-02-10T01:12:23Z

Hysterical Woman: once and only once

[[Image:sbemail78.png|thumb|Neverending Soda]]

Homestar's '''Mountain Dew''' was first mentioned in [[techno]], where [[Strong Bad]] told [[The Cheat]] to break a glowstick open and pour it in Homestar's Mountain Dew. Its first appearance wasn't until the Strong Bad email [[anything]] where [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] applied it "liberally" onto the [[Compy 386]]'s keyboard. It apparently is "never-ending," as Homestar says, if you wait around 15 seconds after anything is over. It has also made an appearance in Homestar's bucket of popcorn in [[extra plug]].

==Appearances ==
*[[anything]]
*[[extra plug]]
*[[strongbad email.exe]]
==External links==

*Wikipedia article on [[Wikipedia:Mountain Dew|Mountain Dew]]
*[http://www.mountaindew.com/home.php Official Mountain Dew Page]

[[Category:Food]][[Category:Inside Jokes]]

Mountain Dew

2005-02-10T01:11:25Z

Hysterical Woman: Strong Bad is two words

[[Image:sbemail78.png|thumb|Neverending Soda]]

Homestar's '''Mountain Dew''' was first mentioned in [[techno]], where [[Strong Bad]] told [[The Cheat]] to break a glowstick open and pour it in Homestar's Mountain Dew. Its first appearance wasn't until the Strong Bad email [[anything]] where [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] applied it "liberally" onto the [[Compy 386]]'s keyboard. It apparently is "never-ending," as [[Homestar]] says if you wait around 15 seconds after [[anything]] is over. It has also made an appearance in Homestar's bucket of popcorn in [[extra plug]].

==Appearances ==
*[[anything]]
*[[extra plug]]
*[[strongbad email.exe]]
==External links==

*Wikipedia article on [[Wikipedia:Mountain Dew|Mountain Dew]]
*[http://www.mountaindew.com/home.php Official Mountain Dew Page]

[[Category:Food]][[Category:Inside Jokes]]

King of Peasantry

2005-02-10T01:04:15Z

Hysterical Woman: add part about game

[[Image:kingofpeasantry.jpg|thumb|right|220px|The King of Peasantry, as seen in the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer|movie trailer]]]]
'''King of Peasantry''' is the monarch of [[Peasantry]]. It is apparently not uncommon to go to him to seek aid and/or advice about life. This is shown when he is consulted by [[Rather Dashing]] about his burninated house, and gets in an argument in doing so. The King strongly believes that the land is at peace with [[Trogdor]], and argues that Rather Dashing would upset the balance with his [[Peasant's Quest]]. He's also not one to be sassed back at, as evidenced in his scolding of Rather Dashing when he did just that. He is the only character in the trailer not found in the game.

==Filmography==
*[[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]]

[[Category: Peasant's Quest Characters]]

Talk:Naked Ned

2005-02-10T00:54:17Z

Hysterical Woman: talking about talk

If you write "talk to naked ned", he'll talk to you. You don't get any extra points.-[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]]

Batman

2005-02-10T00:46:22Z

Hysterical Woman: still rewriting

[[Image:batdangeresque.png|thumb|Holy false climbing, Dangeresque!]]

[[The Brothers Chaps]] have made many references over the years to the famous comic book enterprise ''Batman,'' or at least the campy [[Wikipedia:Batman (TV series)|television show]] version of it. They professing in one of the DVD commentaries that they'd love to see the original ''Batman'' TV series released on DVD. This page lists some of the Homestarverse's more batty references.

== Batsightings ==
*[[Halloween Fairstival]]
:Most obvious one: Strong Bad dresses as Cesar Romero as the Joker. Cesar Romero played the Joker in the 60's television series.
:Also, Strong Bad calls the Cheat and Strong Mad his "bad pennies," which is what the Joker's henchmen were called in the television series.
*[[i she be]]
:Strong Bad says "Same Strong Bad time, same Strong Bad channel," a reference to: "Same bat time, same bat channel," a line said after every episode.
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]]
:Homestar calls himself "Batman" during a bad attempt at a prank call.
*[[Where's The Cheat?]]
:The Brothers Chaps do a version of the scene change in the television series, using [[Homestar Jr.]] instead of the Batman logo.
*[[ghosts]]
:Another Batman scene change, this time with Strong Bad's mask instead of the Batman logo.
:Furthermore, Strong Bad tells the Cheat to meet him up at "the Strong Bad cave," a joke on the often-repeated line, "Quick! To the batcave!"
*[[dangeresque 3]]
:The scene where the two Dangeresques "climb" the skyscraper is a parody of similar scenes in the old television show.
*[[caper]]
:A sleepy Homestar calls the Cheat "Batman."
*[[fingers]]
:The announcer in the beginning parodies the announcer in the television series.
*[[Main Page 11]]
:If you hover your mouse over "E-mail," the H*R logo is projected onto the night sky, similar to the Batsignal.
*[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]
:The Cheat's henchman outfit may be a reference to the henchman outfits in the television show.

[[Category: Inside Jokes]]

Strong Sad Lookalike Contest

2005-02-10T00:44:48Z

Hysterical Woman: re-wrote it to sound better

[[Image:Lookalike_Contest_2.png|thumb|The Man of the Hour]]

'''Strong Sad Lookalike Contest''' is an annual event where contestants are judged on how closely their appearance, voice and penmanship match Strong Sad's. Anyone is accepted except for [[Strong Sad]] himself. First seen in the email "[[impression]]," where [[Coach Z]] acted as judge. [[The Cheat]] has won sectionals in every year since it was started in 1999 dressed as Strong Sad's left leg (or "[[Soolnds|soolnd]]"). [[Strong Bad]] won the blue ribbon for penmanship in 2003. [[Homsar]]'s impression was so good, he was mistaken for Strong Sad trying to enter the contest and kicked out.
[[Category: Contests]]

Tragic Clown Dog

2005-02-10T00:42:30Z

Hysterical Woman: re-wrote it so it sounds better.

[[Image:sbemail121.PNG|thumb|All the zaniness of a clown with the warmth of a hotdog!]]
The '''Tragic Clown Dog''' is the mascot for [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. [[Bubs]] hired [[Strong Bad]] to dress as him in [[part-time job]]. Strong Bad soon quit so he could get back to his [[Lappy 486]], which was almost out of juice. Pictures with the Tragic Clown Dog aren't free, as Bubs charged [[Pom Pom]] and [[Coach Z]] $60 bucks for the privilege (or at least tried to). Bubs made Strong Bad buy the costume when he was hired.

==Appearances==
*Email [[part-time job]]

{{stub}}

[[Category:Mascots]]

Snowglobe

2005-02-10T00:39:17Z

Hysterical Woman: I can't phrase that sentence. Please write better next time.

[[Image:snowglobe.png|thumb|A good gift for Nana]]

A weird snow globe type thing with Rather Dashing.

'''Characters (in order of appearance): '''[[Rather Dashing]], [[Trogdor]]

'''Page Title:''' Have a Rather Dashing Decemberween!

'''Date:''' December 16, 2004

== Transcript ==
''{Scene opens to a wintry version of the burninated cottage from Peasant's Quest, with an odd blue object with a red bottom in the screen as well. The score is "0 of 1." Rather Dashing walks on in winter attire. The command "look" is typed in, loading up the following text:}''

<pre>Even your burninated hovel
looks picturesque in the
cold Peasantry snow. Oh,
and there's a snowglobe on
the ground. That's what
that red and blue thing is.
A snowglobe.</pre>

''{The command "get snowglobe" is typed. Rather Dashing picks up the globe, and the score changes to "1 of 1." The following text appears, as the "got item" sound from Peasant's Quest plays:}''

<pre>Hey! It's a Trogdor snow
globe! Now you have a
Decemberween present for
Nana. Score!</pre>

''{The Trogdor snow globe appears on-screen, with the text "Greetings from Peasantry" on the base.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*At the end you can shake the snowglobe. After you've shaken it for 30 seconds a "Time Wasted" counter will keep track of how much time you've spent shaking the snowglobe. The timer will count up as long as either you hold down the mouse button or the stuff in the snowglobe is moving.
*When the timer hits 2 minutes you will get this message (spoken by Trogdor himself):

<pre>Congratulations! You
wasted more time than any-
body else ever has. Happy
Decemberween, peasant.
Your life will be spared
for another day.</pre>

== Fun Facts ==
*The "Loading" screen says "Voading," with the [[Videlectrix]] logo as the V.
*"Nana" is a term of endearment for "Grandmother," also seen in [[Cheat Commandos...O's]]. Perhaps it's what [[The Brothers Chaps]] call their grandmother.
*Rather Dashing stills wears his short pants, even though it's winter.
*You can press Enter or the spacebar to advance to the next event instead of clicking the text.
*To hear Trogdor speak sooner, you can right-click on the toon and press "Play." This only works if you are watching the .swf file.
**Or, you could use the [http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/flash.html seek bar] and seek ahead a few frames.
*The filename, xmas04_pq.swf, is further evidence that [[Decemberween]] really is Christmas in Free Country, USA.
*Sometimes while shaking the globe, a peasant or two will poke their heads out of the glass.
*At 5908:33 the time will stop.
*If you click and hold the snowglobe, then drag the cursor off the screen, release the mouse, and then drag the cursor back onto the screen, the snowglobe will continue to follow your cursor without your having to hold down the mouse button. Also, the timer will continue to count even if it is not moving.
*This is an obvious parody of Sega's [http://ghz.emulationzone.org/nights/xmas/x-mas.html Christmas NiGHTS into Dreams], which was a free giveaway mini-game that included the charactors from a previous game (NiGHTS into Dreams) in a Christmas adventure.

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/xmas04_pq.html view the snow globe]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/xmas04_pq.swf view the flash file for the snow globe]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1524 forum thread re: "Snow Globe"]
[[Category: Decemberween]]
[[Category: Trogdor Filmography]]

origins

2005-02-06T20:47:13Z

Hysterical Woman: /* Inside References */ possibly lousy fact

[[Image:bellybutton.PNG|thumb|The origin of Strong Sad's belly button.]]

'''Strong Bad Email #123'''

Strong Bad discusses the hangingoutitude of [[The Stick]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Little Strong Bad]], [[Se�or]], [[Mr. Bland]], [[Bubs]], [[The Stick]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Mad]], [[Marzipan]], [[Homsar]], [[Strong Sad]], [[The King of Town]]

'''Date:''' January 31, 2005

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in monotone}'' This email is leaving the station. Please move to the center of the email, and away from the doors.

<pre>subject: a sticky question...
Dear Strong bad,
I have recently been wondering about the origin of the
stick. Has it always been a good place for hanging out and
making rendezvous?

Luke, Eau Claire, WI</pre>

''{he tries to pronounce 'rendezvous' plural, as 'rendezvouuuu-ses?', and the bottom line as 'Luke, eww...Claire...why?'}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh! Why do you Van Peebles always wanna know the origins and histories of every freakin' little thing? Like, do you wanna know how Strong Sad got his belly button, too?

''{cut to a young Strong Bad's birthday; a sign reads 'Happy Birthday Lil Strong Bad'. Strong Bad has a black shirt with a yellow truck on it, and is looking at a white present with a blue ribbon and a tag reading 'To Strong Bad From Mom or Dad'. He grabs the lid and takes it off to reveal a power drill.}''

'''LIL STRONG BAD:''' ''{lifting the drill}'' So awesome! ''{he revs the drill}''

''{cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{clears the screen}'' Or, like, the origin of Bubs' Concession Stand?

''{Original Book style. Se�or and Mr. Bland stand in flat greenness, and Strong Bad's words are subtitled.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Se�or Havin' A Little Trouble and Mr. Bland were by far the most popular characters.

''{a red Stand falls on them with a splurt!}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Then, they were crushed by a falling Bubs' Concession Stand.

''{Bubs appears in it, waving}''

'''BUBS:''' Hot time!

'''STRONG BAD:''' said Bubs

''{back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, I'm not gonna show you those things. Or the origin of the stick. But I will indulge your curiousity ''{misspelt, but pronounced correctly}'' about the stick's hangingoutitude. It currently rates a 10, but such was not always the case. Like when Homestar used to hold his weekly ''{sounding disturbed, and the words turn green and jiggle on screen}'' bread sing-alongs, ''{back to normal}'' we avoided that place like the plegg! Er, ''{deletes up to the 'p'}'' plague!

''{cut to The Stick, where Homestar Runner is surrounded by bread. He is holding a slice and waving it around while marching on the spot}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' Bread is a good time for me, woo-oo-doo singing, bread is a good time for everybody!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover; Homestar keeps peeking out around the bread slice}'' We sure sniped that problem right between the eyes from three hundred yards by scheduling The Cheat's rhythmic chain dancing recitals for the same time and place.

''{Strong Bad and Strong Mad stand in the background while The Cheat, dressed in a blue suit, is swinging a chain around, hitting Homestar's face and the bread. Homestar has acquired a sign reading 'Come On & Sing.'}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing, despite being hit in the face}'' I cut the crusts off in the morning light...

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{clapping; The Cheat picks up a slice of bread and twirls it while making The Cheat noises}'' He's quite good.

'''STRONG MAD:''' WHAT GRACE!

''{back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' After a couple of minutes, the popularity of Homestar's sing-alongs faded and Strong Mad ate The Cheat's chainwhip. So that's when the stick became a great place to spraypaint Marzipan.

''{Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat by The Stick spraying at Marizpan's dress, which has a picture of a steak and 'St8k DiNNeR' written on it graffiti-style}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' To me, this is something that losers would do.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, this is gonna be my freshest piece yet.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Strong Mad, that looks like cooking spray.

'''STRONG BAD:''' What?! Aw, that's some never-forgive action right there.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover; the scene darkens slightly}'' But spraypainting people isn't very much fun when they stand there and make fun of you.

''{cut to Marzipan standing by The Stick with an upside-down Homsar stuck to her head, at night; a wolf howls}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' So I super-glued her to Hhh-Homsar...and left them for dead.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Ooh, I think I hear wolves coming.

'''HOMSAR:''' Iiiii'm the human wedgie. ''{His hat falls and lands on Marzipan's dress}''

''{Homestar marches in, holding a loaf of bread}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' .. don't ask me why, pumpernickel and rye. ''{Note: Homestar's speech impediment makes "why" and "rye" sound exactly the same.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' In order to properly leave them for dead, and not keep hanging around them for dead, we relocated to behind Bubs' ''{cut to Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat behind Bubs' Concession Stand with the muffler and pipe, and a crown with 'On Point' spraypainted on the wall}'' and started calling ourselves the On Point Kings. We'd take no guff from nobody!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{to The Cheat}'' Hey man, I know what it means. I was just seeing if you knew.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{makes frustrated The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{walking in}'' Have you guys seen my moleskin journal?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{producing the power drill}'' You want another belly button there, Harry Elephant�?

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{starts at powering of drill}'' Waaah! No sir! Heck no at all! ''{runs away}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{throws drill away}'' Man, did you guys see me refuse to take that guff? I flat out rejected it! That guff never even had a chance! ''{pulls out a nail file and starts filing his gloves}'' Ah, that's what being an On Point King is all about.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{walks in with a blue dunce cap on for some reason}'' I hear somebody mention a pointy king? ''{nods his hat}'' Doink doink?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Heck no at all!

''{back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So ya see Claire, if it weren't for the stick, and Marzipan's considerable resistance to death, the On Point Kings may never have stolen the King of Town's dunce cap and renamed it Lotionman. {''a little embarrassed, and stutters his 'd' (not typed)}'' D-Don't ask, it was Strong Mad's idea. Well, I hope that makes you not email me anymore.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down}''

== Easter Eggs ==

* Click on "Eau Claire, WI" to view Beverly Sportsinterview's book "Ewww..Claire!! Why???"
* Click on "dunce" at the end to see and hear an album of Homestar's Bread Sing-alongs.
** Keep clicking the CD cover to hear different songs. The three songs he sings are the same as the ones from the email.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*This is the first time Homsar's hat has not returned to him, regardless of his position (if we don't count [[Modestly Hot Homsar]]). Because he is upside down while glued to Marzipan's forehead, his hat settles on her dress. However, in his character video, he ends up upside down at the end (or, depending on your point of view, the entire video), but his hat still comes back to him.
*This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the drill, is featured. Normally [[The Brothers Chaps]] keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.
*This is the first time [[Se�or|Se�or's]] full name is revealed (Se�or Havin' A Little Trouble).
*Even though in the origin of Bubs' Concession Stand, the sign above the window reads "STAND", the first appearance of said concession stand ([[Where My Hat is At?]]), the sign reads "CANDY".

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad has trouble with the pronunciation of the plural form of the word ''rendezvous'', which is spelled the same as the singular, not ''rendezvouses''. The plural can be pronounced either /'''ron'''-day-voo/ (which is also the same as the singular) or /'''ron'''-day-vooz/.
*"Eau Claire" means "Clear Water" in French; the correct pronunciation of "eau" is "oh".
*The word "St8k" is spraypainted on Marzipan. If it were pronounced the way it is spelled, it would be "Stateke" instead of Steak.
*In the Bread Sing-a-Longs CD, the picture of Homestar blinks. This is due to his flash animation, which constantly has him blinking.

===Inside References===
*We last saw the smashed muffler in [[no loafing]].
*The appearance of Homestar's Bread Singalongs CD is similar to Strong Bad's Rhythm 'N' Grammar as seen at the end of [[local news]].
* Strong Bad was last "On Point" in the "[[Extra Real Dating Sim XR]]."
*This is the second time in the past two cartoons that a character has been pictured wearing a truck shirt. Little Strong Bad does so here, and [[Tompkins]] wore one in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]. Also, Little Strong Bad's voice is very similar to [[Tompkins]]'.
*Strong Bad's misspelling of "plague" is likely a reference to [[Peasant's Quest]], in which there is a joke about misspelling "plaque" as "plague."
*This is the first time that the Strong Brothers' parents have been mentioned.

===Real-World References===
*Strong Bad's introduction to the email is a reference to the automated voice systems commonly used on subway trains, and is nearly identical to the one once used on the train between concourses at the Atlanta Airport (TBC live in Atlanta).
*The drill used to give Strong Sad his belly button is likely a DeWalt Drill, DeWalt being famous for their yellow colored heavy duty tools.
**The sound that the drill makes is closer to the sound of a compressed-air powered tool, rather than an electric drill.
*When Se�or and Mr. Bland are crushed in the scene depicting the origin of [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], the manner in which their legs stick out is as that of the Wicked Witch of the East in [[Wikipedia:The_Wizard_of_Oz_%281939_movie%29|The Wizard of Oz]] when she is crushed by Dorothy's house.
*Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to [[Lem Sportsinterviews]], is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Beverly Cleary|Beverly Cleary]], an author for children and young adults.
*[[Wikipedia:Moleskine|Moleskine]] is a brand of pocket notebooks and sketch pads popular among trend-following artists and writers. Strong Sad mistakenly pronounces it "mole skin", whereas the correct pronunciation is "mol-a-skeen'-a".
*"Harry Elephante" is a reference to famous calypso musician [[Wikipedia:Harry Belafonte|Harry Belafonte]]. As similar joke was made in the ''Friends'' episode entitled "The One After The Super Bowl," when Ross (David Schwimmer) mentions that his monkey's favorite toy is named "Harry Elephante". It also brings to mind Chester Elegante, from [[dreamail]].
*"Van Peebles" is a reference to the filmmakers [[Wikipedia:Melvin Van Peebles|Melvin Van Peebles]] (known for ''[[Wikipedia:Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song|Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song]]'') and his son [[Wikipedia:Mario Van Peebles|Mario Van Peebles]].
*In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band [[Wikipedia:Dokken|Dokken]], whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."
*Where "bread sing-alongs" is green and jittering, this could be a reference to the Nintendo 64 game Banjo-Kazooie, where when a character said something 'disgusting' those particular words would jiggle in that fashion.
*Strong Bad's line "that's some never-forgive action right there" is a direct quote from Min One in the [[Wikipedia:graffiti|graffiti]] documentary [[Wikipedia:Style Wars|Style Wars]].

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail123.html view "origins"] 
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail123.swf view the flash file for "origins"]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1907 forum thread re: "origins"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
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dragon

2005-01-07T12:53:22Z

Hysterical Woman: /* Fun Facts */ what's with the reorg?

[[Image:sbemail58picture2.PNG|thumb|The Origins Of Trogdor]]

'''Strong Bad Email #58'''

kaizer wants to know if Strong Bad can draw a dragon.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Trogdor]], [[Coach Z]], [[Strong Mad]], [[Homsar]] (easter egg), [[Strong Sad]]'''

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Here I go once again with the email! Every week I hope that it's from a female! ''{opens email, stops singing}'' Oh man! Not from a female.

''{reading email}''

<pre>Hey Strong Bad,

Can you draw a dragon? I want to see
your skills of an artist.

well, g2g,
kaizer
CA</pre>

''{after "artist" Strong Bad says "okay"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' A dragon? That's easy! Feel free to follow along with my simple step-by-step instructions. I make drawing FUN!!

''{Cuts to a scene of a piece of paper on a table. You can only see Strong Bad's right boxing glove, and he is holding a pencil.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' To begin, draw an S ''{draws an S on the paper.}'' for snake. Er, dragon. {simple music starts playing} Er, whatever. Next, we'll draw a more different S. ''{draws another S connected to the other}'' For the head, put a top mark on a long V. ''{draws a triangle on top of the S}'' Then you add some legs... ''{draws two beefy legs}'' draw on a couple of arms... and ''{draws two beefy arms, eyes, spikes, teeth and angry eyebrows.}'' whoa ...wait a minute. {music stops with a record scratch} I think I need to start over. Thing doesn't look natural. ''{draws a speech bubble coming from the dragon that says 'The S is for sucks', and pulls up a clean sheet of paper.}'' Okay, so starting again, the same way. S, more different S. {Music starts again} Close it up real good at the top for his head ''{makes an attached, open-mouth head}'', and then, using consummate V's, give him teeth, spinities, and angry eyebrows. ''{draws all of what he mentioned, plus stick legs.}'' Then, you can add smoke or fire ''{draws both coming from the dragon's mouth}'', or maybe some wings, if he's a.. wing-a-ling dragon. ''{Draws two wings on the dragon's back.}'' Let's put one of those beefy arms back on for good measure. ''{draws a single beefy arm on the back of the dragon}'' That looks really good. Comin' out of the back of his neck, there. Now he needs a name. How about, TROGDOR the BURNiNATOR. ''{writes it below the dragon}'' Oh yeah. Check out all his majesty. ''{draws rays of majesty coming from the dragon}''

''{Cut to Compy 386.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So there's my dragon, kaizer. {music stops} Let's see how the other students are doing.

''{Cut to scene in a big room with several tables. Strong Bad approaches Coach Z, who is drawing with chalk on a small slate.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right! What do you got for me, Coach Z?

'''COACH Z:''' Take a look there! ''{zoom in a squiggly drawing that resembles a snake}'' I think she's lookin' pretty good!

'''STRONG BAD:''' I said consummate V's! CONSUMMATE!!! Geez. ''{walking away}'' Guy wouldn't know majesty if it came up and bit him in the face.

'''COACH Z:''' ''{offscreen}'' That happened once!

''{Cut to Strong Mad. He is using an X-Acto Knife to carve the word 'DAGRON' into the table.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strong Mad. You just, keep doing your thing, man.

''{Cut to Strong Sad, who has drawn a masterpiece.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh crap! I didn't know ''you'' were doing one.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, sure. I think I've improved on your methods a bit, too. ''{zoom in on his picture}'' I applied some chiaroscuro shading, and...

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'll improve on your methods!!

''{Strong Bad takes out his [[BMW lighter]] and sets Strong Sad's picture aflame. It quickly disintegrates with hardly a trace.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' What? That's not an improvement!

'''STRONG BAD:''' WA HA HA HA!! Trogdor strikes again!

''{Cut to black and white pencil-drawn scene of Trogdor. Rock music is playing in the background.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{screaming}'' TROGDOR!!! TROGDOR!!! ''{singing}'' Trogdor was a man! I mean, he was a dragon-man! Or, maybe he was just a dragon. Um... But he was still TROGDOR!!!! TROGDOR!!!! Burninating the countryside! Burninating the peasants! Burninating all the people! In their thatched roof COTTAGES!!! THATCHED ROOF COTTAGES!!

''{Cut to Compy 386.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And the Trogdor comes in the NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on Strong Mad's "R" to see Homsar's attempt at drawing a dragon.
:''{Strong Bad walks up to Homsar, who has written "TASTER'S CHOICE" on a piece of paper and taped it to the table}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Get out of my house! ''{walks away}''
:'''HOMSAR:''' I do what I'm told.

== Fun Facts ==
*The Brothers Chaps say this email took the longest to make in an interview with Kevin Scott.
*"Kaiser" is the ultimate dragon form of the hero in the Breath of Fire series of video games.
*"And the Trogdor comes in the NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHHHHHHHHT!!!!!!!" is a reference to the email [[guitar]], where Strong Bad says a similar phrase.
*Strong Bad uses the [[BMW Lighter]] to burn Strong Sad's drawing of a dragon.
*Strong Mad's dragon actually says 'dagron'.
*Strong Bad writes it "TROGDOR the BURNiNATOR" because the font that the Brothers Chaps used doesn't have a capital "I"
*As noted in the DVD commentary (see below), Coach Z's drawing faces a different direction in the close-up from the previous scene.

== DVD Version ==
*The Homsar Easter Egg is automatically enabled, no clicking required.
*This email also features hidden creator's commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MIKE:''' This is one of the least popular emails we've ever done.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Everyone hates it.

'''MIKE:''' This one, uh, really took a long time, and I remember, like, not-

'''MATT:''' Yeah, you wanted to abandon it. Like, we were three-quarters of the way done-

'''MIKE:''' This is one-

'''MATT:''' -and you wanted to start over.

'''MIKE:''' It was... we just- it's very long, and I felt- I dunno. When you're in the middle of it, sometimes it's hard to tell.

'''MATT:''' I wonder, though, if we had just, let's say we cut out the whole Trogdor metal thing at the end, if people would, like, if it's Trogdor, just this dr- bad drawing of a dragon or if it's the metal and the like drawings

'''MIKE:''' I think it's th- mostly the metal.

'''MATT:''' That's what I'm sayin'.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah

'''MATT:''' So it'd be funny if we hadn't done that at the end or if we'd made it an Easter Egg even, so less people saw it.

'''MIKE:''' So this is, uh, we learned to draw the Ed Emberly way.

'''MATT:''' And later the Marvel Comics way.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' That's true. Um... ''{pause}''

'''MATT:''' That thing is unholy. ''{Mike starts laughing again}'' True. It's horrible. We always find ourselves humming this song that's in the background.

'''MIKE:''' Doo doo doot doot, see I'm doing it again.

'''MATT:''' Uh, what is a tincidence[1]! What is a tincidence, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' Um... uh so yeah, the- this email, we're, it went up late Monday at probably, like, 4 or 5 o'clock on Monday we were pretty much done with the whole email and Matt started singing the Trogdor song in this squealy-

'''MATT:''' ''{in squealy voice}'' Trogdor!

'''MIKE:''' -in the squealy voice and so then we sort of knew we had to make the Trogdor metal song and then when we made the Trogdor metal song we had to make all the... fancy shaded Tro- uh, Trogdor drawings for the video.

'''MATT:''' And then didn't Trogdor, the name Trogdor the Burn- I think it was just, like, we decided he had to name him and just, like, it just came out, like, there was no deciding.

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously, overlapping}'' Yeah, you just came up with it. There was no, like thought- yeah, right.

'''MATT:''' The drawing of Trogdor took a while. Took some...

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. And if you watch there, his thing flips.

'''MATT:''' What happened?

'''MIKE:''' Coach Z's drawing- well there, his head's on the left, but in the closeup the head's on the right.

'''MATT:''' Ohhhh

'''MIKE:''' I mean, Coach Z's left, and Coach Z's right.

'''MATT:''' Right. Dagron.

'''MIKE:''' Dagron. He's misspelled the word "dragon." There's everybody's favorite. He's correctly spelled the words "Taster's Choice."

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs a little, then a pause}'' That's a good drawing, Mike. We still have those.

'''MIKE:''' Yep.

'''MATT:''' There's the BMW- the, the ever-present BMW lighter. Didn't we say we had some, some people we met that said they tried really hard to find one.

'''MIKE:''' Oh yeah.

'''MATT:''' And they don't exist in real life, so we apologize.

'''MIKE:''' Ohh, I don't know how these drawings are going to look on your TV screen.

'''MATT:''' Yeah

'''MIKE:''' All made big like this. They might look kind of pixelly and gross, but...

'''MATT:''' I'm, uh, I don't regret it, though, if they look pixelly and gross.

'''MIKE:''' No, we did that on purpose!

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs a little}'' Yes.

'''MIKE:''' You can see in the smoke of the flaming peasant's head, it just kind of- there's a straight line at the top of the smoke. It just kind of stops and that's from the edge of the page. It's just-

'''MATT:''' Oh really?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. You can't see it- yeah, you can see just how it stops

'''MATT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Oh there we go, I see.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' And so, of course, later this all became Peasant's Quest fodder

=== Fun Facts ===
*Ed Emberly is the author of several "how to draw" books for children.
*"How to Draw the Marvel Comics Way" is one of a series of many, many books detailing how you too can learn to draw in the style of your favorite comic artists.

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail58.html watch "dragon"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail58.swf view the flash file for "dragon"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
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Talk:Z Sabre

2004-12-15T03:28:31Z

Hysterical Woman: accidently deleted (hope it was an accident)

Note: Stop making non-canon (not from the cartoons) additions to the 20X6 pages.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 13:43, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

20X6 Coach Z does NOT talk by moving his eyebrow up and down. I suppose that, if this is true, then the KoT speaks by moving his moustache and The Cheat talks by moving his arms and his body. Honestly. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

japanese cartoon

2004-12-12T22:05:25Z

Hysterical Woman: /* Transcript */ revert

[[Image:sbemail57.PNG|thumb|"HAHAHA! HE FELL ON YOU!"]]

'''[[Strong Bad Email]] #57'''

[[Strong Bad]] describes what he would look like as a japanese cartoon, and [[20X6]] is born.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Stinkoman]], [[Pan Pan]], [[20X6 Homestar]], [[Homestar Runner]] {Easter Egg}'''

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' So cool an email. I thought you would enjoy it. Ding dong,
''{reading}''

<pre>Dear Strong Bad,
what would you look like as a
japanese cartoon and what would
it be about?

-james f.</pre>

''{Strong Bad pronounces "f." "fffffffffff"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' A Japanese cartoon, eh, James? I saw one o' thems once. Let's see what I can remember.

''{cut to a white screen with Strong Bad standing there. As he describes how he would look different, the changes are applied}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, so first of all, my head would have to be a little bean. With real-real big eyes. Get rid of my thumbs, make me all shiny...my boots would be a whole lot cooler. Like robot boots. And for some reason, I got blue hair. You gotta have blue hair. Then there's my mouth. Real tiny when it's closed; ridiculously huge when it's open. And then you basically just put me in space and let me fly around in cool poses!

''{we see Stinko Man, the anime Strong Bad, flying around in all sorts of cool poses. He then lands down in a futuristic anime-rendition of the field. Music from the NES game [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rad_Racer Rad Racer] plays in background (Stinko Man's theme song)}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And they'd probably have somebody else do the voices.

''{20X6 Homestar walks on}''

'''20X6 HOMESTAR:''' Hey Stinko Man! Everybody says you're the guy but, I wanna be the guy too!

'''STINKO MAN:''' No way, you're just a kid! Maybe when you're older.

''{Pan Pan, the anime version of PomPom designed to look like a panda, bounces in and squashes 20X6 Homestar}''

'''STINKO MAN:''' Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Pan Pan is fat! Ha ha ha ha ha! He fell on you! Ha ha ha ha! He's a good bear!

''{Suddenly, the cartoon transitions into an ink-drawing of the scene. The Stinkoman K theme song starts playing. The background then changes to a similar sketch of Stinkoman powering up, upon which the credits appear:}''

'''Executive Producer'''

'''H. Yamauchi'''

'''Producer'''

'''S. Miyahon'''

''{The backdrop changes to Stinkoman in a different pose.}''

'''Director'''

'''S. Miyahon'''

'''Ten Ten'''

'''Designer'''

'''Ten Ten'''

''{The backdrop becomes a head with huge spikes for hair and Strong Bad's eyes.}''

'''Programmer'''

'''T. Nakazoo'''

'''MaruMaru'''

'''Sound Composer'''

'''Konchan'''

''{Then we're back to Compy with Strong Bad typing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in Stinko Man's voice}'' Japanese cartoons are w-- ''{clears his throat}'' Oh, ahem, excuse me. ''{goes back to typing and uses his regular voice}'' Japanese cartoons are weird, man. Though I may be on to something with that blue hair. ''{stops typing}'' Look pretty nice, it look-a pretty nice!

''{The scene does an ink-transition and more credits apppear as Strong Bad sings the 20X6 theme tune:}''

'''Director'''

'''Mike Rock'''

'''Designer'''

'''MattMatt'''

'''Combolations'''

'''Oolong Singy'''

'''Click Here To Email Strong Bad'''

''{You can click on the final "credit" to e-mail Strong Bad.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*At the very end you can click on the words, "Japanese Cartoons" and see "Stinkoman" in action.
*At the end of "Stinkoman K 20X6" you can click on "Japanese Cartoons" again to see Homestar Runner watching it and singing along to the theme song.
**If you watch it long enough, Stinko Man eventually stops running on the TV, meaning the animation is not actually looped like most of the other animations on the site.
*While or after Homestar is watching the intro to Stinkoman, you can click on the "NES Endings" video tape to see various ending to NES games.
*Once the NES Endings window opens, you can click on it to show more.

== Fun Facts ==
*The endings for the Nintendo games are as follows:
#Rad Racer (Rad Racer is also the source of the Stinkoman theme song)
#Castlevania 2: Simon's Quest (Normal Ending)
#Megaman 2
#Super Mario Bros. 2 (Super Mario USA in Japan)
#Hoops
#Ghosts N' Goblins (Good Ending)
#Blaster Master (This has "Blue Hair" and an arrow pointing to the character's hair written on it)
#The Legend of Zelda (First Quest)
#Metroid (1-3 Hours Finishing Time)
#Jackal
#Rygar

*In the third slide of the "credits", you can see a parody of Vegeta (Dragon Ball Z), all Strong Bad'd up.

*This is one of two [[Strong Bad Email]]s in which the paper doesn't come down. The other is [[superhero name]].

*The name Stinkoman is a reference to [[island]]. Homestar suddenly calls Strong Bad "Stinkoman."

*20x6 is actually a reference to the first Metroid game, which is set in the year 20x5.

*The spaceship looks a lot like [http://starbase.globalpc.net/%7Ebhz/strongbad/images/galaxy5000.gif this] spaceship from the videogame Galaxy 5000.

*The credits for Stinkoman K are lifted from The Legend of Zelda for NES. One of the credits is S. Miyahon. This was a translation error in the original game, as it was meant to be the Legendary Shigeru Miyamoto, creator of Mario. The Kanji for Hon (Book), and Moto (Base) are the same Kanji.

*The theme music is lifted directly from [http://www.vgmuseum.com/images/nes/01/rad.html Rad Racer], an old NES game. ''Rad Racer'' 's music was composed by Nobuo Uematsu, who, of course, would later go on to become famous for his ''Final Fantasy'' soundtracks.

*At the begining of the email, Strong Bad recites a Haiku, which is very fitting:
**So cool an email
**I thought you would enjoy it
**Ding dong dear Strong Bad

*The first line of Strong Bad's haiku is a reference to Strong Bad E-mail #34, [[weird dream]], in which the Cheat's computer, [[Tangerine Dreams]], has an icon labelled 'So Cool A Flash'. This, in turn, refers to the Klez virus, an e-mail virus with the subject line 'So Cool A Flash'. The text inside the e-mail was 'I thought you would enjoy it', so the opening line of this e-mail is a reference to both [[weird dream]] and the Klez virus.

*The credit for H. Yamauchi is presumably a reference to Hiroshi Yamauchi, former president of Nintendo.

*The credits for Mike Rock and MattMatt are references to [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt Chapman]].

*The two videos next to the NES Endings are "Joy of Painting" from the Toons menu.

*Strong Bad recites a haiku at the start of the e-mail, but in [[Halloween Fairstival]], he claims that he doesn't "know or care what a haiku is".

== DVD Version ==
*The 20X6 and Homestar watching Easter Eggs are now opened by different icons. The Strong Bad's head icon on the right side of the Compy 386 screen opens the former, and the one in the lower left corner of the Compy 386 opens the latter.
**Be warned that if you open the Homestar Easter Egg, you have to restart the toon in order to see the other one
*The NES Endings are, surprisingly, still accessable, though you have to wait for the Homestar video clip to be finished before you can access them.
*This email also features hidden creator's commentary. You can access it by switching your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' This is CD number one

'''MIKE:''' Number two

'''MATT:''' Number three

'''MIKE:''' And number four.

'''MATT:''' That's from that Flaming Lips four disc thing.

'''MIKE:''' Alright.

'''MATT:''' So this is when we started this email at, like, 10 PM on Sunday night, didn't we?

'''MIKE:''' I think so.

'''MATT:''' And we didn't finish until, like, early or LATE Monday?

'''MIKE:''' I dunno

'''MATT:''' Or early Tuesday.

'''MIKE:''' No, I think it was up on Monday.

'''MATT:''' OK.

'''MIKE:''' But it was definitely later in the day.

'''MATT:''' I remember Matt and Jenna, our friends Matt and Jenna came over and we had just drawn some of these preliminary drawings of Strong Bad as Stinkoman and we showed it to them.

'''MIKE:''' I don't remember that.

'''MATT:''' They did! They came over-

'''MIKE:''' I believe you! I'm just saying I don't remember it.

'''MATT:''' Well I don't-

'''MIKE:''' I don't have anything to add to that, uh, line of-

'''MATT:''' I don't know why we did, we probably had a good time for a little while

'''MIKE:''' Maybe

'''MATT:''' and then they left.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah?

''{pause}''

'''MATT:''' This is another scene, nobody likes this scene, everybody hates this scene, though.

''{Mike laughs a little.}''

'''MATT:''' You know. There's that ship! Originally we were going to say that ship was The Cheat.

'''MIKE:''' Oh yeah, that's right! ''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' That was going to be, the 20x6 version of The Cheat was that ship.

'''MIKE:''' We should still do that.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, maybe- maybe so.

'''MIKE:''' Uhm... I like Homestar's boots there.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. I mean, I think we didn't- until we recorded this line, we weren't going to, like, call him Stinkoman, were we? And it was, we were just making that reference, to the old, to Island, the email.

'''MIKE:''' ''{at the same time, overlapping}'' You've got to remember... you're right.

'''MATT:''' I love those mushroom things. I love those- the mushroom things-

'''MIKE:''' There's the tear over your head.

'''MATT:''' The tear

'''MIKE:''' And the snot bubble

'''MATT:''' There's some other stuff.

'''MIKE:''' So many weird things that happen in-

'''MATT:''' Those mushroom things happen in, uh, Animal Crossing, when they get mad there.

'''MIKE:''' Oh yeah, that's right!

'''MATT:''' Of course, these are all the credits from, uh, the original Legend of Zelda.

'''MIKE:''' Konchan, sound composer. Does good work.

''{Matt starts singing the Legend of Zelda theme song, then Mike continues it.}''

'''MIKE:''' Sorry. Uhm... so yeah.

'''MATT:''' So the one-two punch of Trogdor and Stinkoman are probably-

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, back to back weeks

'''MATT:''' -are probably THE most popular emails. Combolations. ''{laughs a little}''

'''MIKE:''' Later, Senor Cardgage gives combolations to Strong Bad in the 100th email.

=== Fun Facts ===
*The album in particular Matt and Mike reference at the beginning is Zaireeka by The Flaming Lips. Zaireeka was a highly experimental album designed to be heard on 4 separate discs played simultaneously. The part of the album they reference happens at the beginning of each track and serves as a way to let you know you synced the discs properly.
*The talk about The Cheat 20X6 being a spaceship is most likely a reference to the anime ''Tenchi Muyo'', where the cabbit (cat-rabbit) Ryo-Ohki could transform into a spaceship several hundred times her size.

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail57.html watch "japanese cartoon"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail57.swf view the flash file for "japanese cartoon"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Strong Bad Email]][[Category:20X6]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]][[Category:Stinkoman Filmography]][[Category:20X6 Homestar Filmography]]

Cheatball

2004-12-11T20:45:25Z

Hysterical Woman: tenchi muyo ref (with special tea!)

[[Image:20X6 The Cheat.jpg|thumb|right|100px|20X6 The Cheat]]

'''20X6 The Cheat''' first appears in the [[Games]] menu. If you pick up the Cheat-textured "C" pill, your ship becomes a The Cheat-styled fighter, and the game-describing avatar becomes the [[20X6]] version of [[The Cheat]]. Also, he appears in his spaceship form in [[Main Page 17]] and [[japanese cartoon]].

He bears a resemblence to The Cheat from an easter egg in the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[2 years]]. In the DVD commentary for [[japanese cartoon]], [[The Brothers Chaps]] point out that the spaceship seen in the email was originally going to be the 20X6 The Cheat, and agree that maybe they should still use it as the 20X6 The Cheat. This may be a reference to Tenchi Muyo, which featured a strange creature called a cabbit that could turn into a spaceship.

[[Category: 20X6 Characters]]

Cheatball

2004-12-11T20:44:03Z

Hysterical Woman: deleted non-canon

[[Image:20X6 The Cheat.jpg|thumb|right|100px|20X6 The Cheat]]

'''20X6 The Cheat''' first appears in the [[Games]] menu. If you pick up the Cheat-textured "C" pill, your ship becomes a The Cheat-styled fighter, and the game-describing avatar becomes the [[20X6]] version of [[The Cheat]]. Also, he appears in his spaceship form in [[Main Page 17]] and [[japanese cartoon]].

He bears a resemblence to The Cheat from an easter egg in the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[2 years]]. In the DVD commentary for [[japanese cartoon]], [[The Brothers Chaps]] point out that the spaceship seen in the email was originally going to be the 20X6 The Cheat, and agree that maybe they should still use it as the 20X6 The Cheat. This may be a reference to Tenchi Muyo, where there is a cute fuzzy thing that could turn into a spaceship.

[[Category: 20X6 Characters]]

Talk:Z Sabre

2004-12-11T20:43:03Z

Hysterical Woman: non-canon

Note: Stop making non-canon (not from the cartoons) additions to the 20X6 pages.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 13:43, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

Pan Pan

2004-12-11T20:42:42Z

Hysterical Woman: capitalization

[[Image:panpan.PNG|thumb|right|220px|Pan Pan is a good bear]]

The anime version of [[Pom Pom]] is '''Pan Pan'''. Pan Pan seems to be a takeoff on the obligatory anime animal mascot, though in [[Under Construction]] he acted more or less like Pom Pom. Like the other forms of Pom Pom, he doesn't speak in English, and he instead speaks in a sort of strange "boinging" noise. Pan Pan falling on [[20X6 Homestar]] appears to be a running gag.

Like most other [[20X6]] characters, getting the appropriate pill in the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/games.html Games menu] will reveal Pan Pan.

He may be a parody of Genma Saotome from the anime "Ranma 1/2" who turns into a giant panda. He may also be a parody of Evangelion's "Pen Pen" (or "Pen^2"), a penguin with a similar colouring, name, and deer-in-the-headlights expression on his face.

[[Category: 20X6 Characters]]

Talk:Pan Pan

2004-12-11T20:42:14Z

Hysterical Woman: non-canon

Note: Stop making non-canon (not from the cartoons) additions to the 20X6 pages.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 13:42, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

Talk:1-Up

2004-12-11T20:41:31Z

Hysterical Woman: non-canon

Note: Stop making non-canon (not from the cartoons) additions to the 20X6 pages.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 13:41, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

Marzi-Mei

2004-12-11T20:40:55Z

Hysterical Woman: delete non-canon

[[Image:marzipan20X6.png|thumb|right|130px|Marzipan as anime]]

'''20X6 Marzipan''' is the [[20X6]] version of [[Marzipan (character)|Marzipan]]. She only appears on [[Main Page 17]] as the mouse-over action on the "characters" button.

Her outfit, hairstyle and general appearance seem based on the anime character, Sailor Moon. The animation she does is definitely from Chun-Li's SFII winning pose. ("Yatta!", the Japanese term for "I did it!")

[[Category: 20X6 Characters]]

Talk:Marzi-Mei

2004-12-11T20:40:20Z

Hysterical Woman: non-canon

Note: Stop making non-canon (not from the cartoons) additions to the 20X6 pages.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 13:40, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

Stinkoman

2004-12-11T20:39:40Z

Hysterical Woman: delete non-canon

[[Image:stinkoman.PNG|thumb|right|220px|Stinkoman fighting and/or challenging]]

'''Stinkoman''' is [[Strong Bad]] as he might appear in a Japanese cartoon. He is an [[Wikipedia:amalgam|amalgam]] of [[Wikipedia:anime|anime]] stereotypes, and is obsessed with challenging and fighting. He seems more than willing to eat dirt, since he has done so on more than one occasion.

In the [[Strong Bad Email]]: [[japanese cartoon]], he is referred to as "Stinkoman K 20X6".

His only [[Halloween Costumes|halloween costume]] (or "[[Wikipedia:cosplay|cosplay]]") was [[Wikipedia:Speed Racer|Speed Racer]]. 
[[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] called [[Strong Bad]] Stinkoman in Strong Bad Email: [[island]].

*'''Debut:''' [[japanese cartoon]]
*[[:Category:Stinkoman Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

[[Category: 20X6 Characters]]

Talk:Stinkoman

2004-12-11T20:39:02Z

Hysterical Woman: non-canon

Kepp it this way.--[[User:No Loafing V2|No Loafing]] 15:39, 28 Sep 2004 (MST)
(except for screenshot)

Note: Stop making non-canon (not from the cartoons) additions to the 20X6 pages.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 13:38, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

Talk:20X6

2004-12-11T20:38:18Z

Hysterical Woman: non-canon

Are we sure that Sticklyman is 20X6 The Poopsmith? I remember there was some debate about this when Under Construction first came out. I always thought he was just supposed to be a XiaoXiao guy. --[[User:Dark Grapefruit|Dark Grapefruit]]

:It still is debated. See: [[Talk:Stickly Man]]. I think the wording on the [[Stickly Man|article]] is sufficient until we get more info. - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 13:40, 26 Oct 2004 (MST)

Note: Stop making non-canon (not from the cartoons) additions to the 20X6 pages.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 13:38, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

20X6

2004-12-11T20:36:06Z

Hysterical Woman: non-canon deleted

[[Image:20X6.png|thumb|Stinko Man K: 20X6]]

'''20X6''' is an era of cartoons that depict stereotypical Japanese cartoons. The first appearance is in the [[Strong Bad Email]]: [[japanese cartoon]]. Pronounced "Twenty-Exty-Six", this era contains elements of ''[[Wikipedia:Mega Man|Mega Man]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:Metroid|Metroid]]'' video games, wherein the year is referred to as 20XX and 20X5 respectively.

20X6 stars [[Wikipedia:Anime|Anime]] versions of the standard "present era" characters. For example [[Strong Bad]] becomes [[Stinkoman]], a reference to the email "[[island]]". [[Pom Pom]] becomes a hungry Panda bear called [[Pan Pan]].

It may be a possible future for [[Free Country, USA]] - this is supported in [[time capsule]], where Strong Bad is asked "''why not make a time capsule of stuff filled with stuff about you to be opened in at least '''X0''' years''", then Stinkoman finds Strong Bad's time capsule and [[20X6 Homestar]] finds [[Homestar Runner|Homestar's]] time box.

== Characters (in order of appearance) ==
*[[Stinkoman]] ([[Strong Bad]])
*[[20X6 Homestar]] ([[Homestar Runner]])
*[[Pan Pan]] ([[Pom Pom]])
*[[20X6 Marzipan]] ([[Marzipan (character)|Marzipan]])
*[[Stickly Man]] ([[The Poopsmith]], suspected)
*[[20X6 Coach Z]] ([[Coach Z]])
*[[20X6 The Cheat]] ([[The Cheat]])

== Other stylistic sources ==
*[[Wikipedia:Dragon Ball Z|Dragon Ball Z]]
*[[Wikipedia:Ranma 1/2|Ranma 1/2]]
*[[Wikipedia:Sailor Moon|Sailor Moon]]
*[[Wikipedia:Akira (film)|Akira]]
*[http://www.newgrounds.com/collections/xiao.html Xiao Xiao] (see [[Under Construction]])

[[Category: 20X6]]

Z Sabre

2004-12-11T20:33:19Z

Hysterical Woman: revert to last edition by me

[[Image:20X6 Coach Z.jpg|thumb|right|100px|20X6 Coach Z]]

The '''20X6 Coach Z''' first appears in the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/games.html Games menu]. If you pick up the green "Z" power pill, your ship turns into a Coach Z styled fighter, and the game-describing avatar becomes the [[20X6]] version of [[Coach Z]].

He seems to speak by raising and lowering his eyebrow.

[[Category: 20X6 Characters]]

User talk:69.40.246.236

2004-12-11T16:59:25Z

Hysterical Woman: 20X6

Please stop adding non-canon material to the 20X6 pages.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 09:59, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)

20X6

2004-12-11T16:58:10Z

Hysterical Woman: fixed links (stop adding non-canon stuff)

Cheatball

2004-12-11T16:51:41Z

Hysterical Woman: revert to Tiggera

[[Image:20X6 The Cheat.jpg|thumb|right|100px|The Cheat in 20X6]]

The '''20X6 The Cheat''' first appears in the [[Games]] menu. If you pick up the Cheat-textured "C" pill, your ship becomes a The Cheat-styled fighter, and the game-describing avatar becomes the [[20X6]] version of [[The Cheat]].

He bears a resemblence to The Cheat from an easter egg in the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[2 years]]. In the DVD commentary for [[japanese cartoon]], [[The Brothers Chaps]] point out that the spaceship seen in the email was originally going to be the 20X6 The Cheat, and agree that maybe they should still use it as the 20X6 The Cheat. This may be a reference to Tenchi Muyo, where there is a cute fuzzy thing that could turn into a spaceship.

[[Category: 20X6 Characters]]

Z Sabre

2004-12-11T16:50:27Z

Hysterical Woman: stop that

Sticklyman

2004-12-11T16:48:56Z

Hysterical Woman: no proof of that

[[Image:stickly.PNG|thumb|right|220px|Stickly Man hard at work]]

'''Stickly Man''' is both an oblique reference to [[The Poopsmith]] and his habit of shoveling piles of unnamed filth, and a parody of the stick figure in the "Under Construction" logo used on many unfinished web pages. He is featured in the [[20X6]] style short "Under Construction" and is named "Stickly Man" by [[Stinkoman]].

Stickly Man challenges Stinkoman to combat, and procedes to unleash his best stick-fu in a wonderful tribute to the many stick figure kung-fu animations available on the Internet.

== Filmography ==

*[[Under Construction]]

[[Category: 20X6 Characters]]

1-Up

2004-12-11T16:46:47Z

Hysterical Woman: no, not Kidstar.

[[Image:20x6homestar.png|thumb|right|170px|Homestar in 20X6]]

'''20X6 Homestar''' is Homestar Runner as an anime character. [[Stinkoman]]'s the guy, but Homestar wants to be the guy too. 20X6 Homestar is the real star of [[20X6]], but Stinkoman is hogging the spotlight. Appears only in [[japanese cartoon]], [[time capsule]], the [[Under Construction]] April Fool's cartoon, the [[Games]] menu, and the [[Main Page 17|20X6 main page (#17)]]. [[Pan Pan]] fell on him.

20X6 Homestar has yet to be (officially) named, though some people on other websites have referred to him as "The Kid". [[The Brothers Chaps]] have said his name is supposed to be "1Up ExtraMan."

*'''Debut''': [[japanese cartoon]]
*[[:Category:20X6 Homestar Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

[[Category: 20X6 Characters]]

Stinkoman

2004-12-11T16:45:47Z

Hysterical Woman: hogging the spotlight?

[[Image:stinkoman.PNG|thumb|right|220px|Stinkoman fighting and/or challenging]]

'''Stinkoman''' is [[Strong Bad]] as he might appear in a Japanese cartoon. He is an [[Wikipedia:amalgam|amalgam]] of [[Wikipedia:anime|anime]] stereotypes, and is obsessed with challenging and fighting. He seems more than willing to eat dirt, since he has done so on more than one occasion.

In the [[Strong Bad Email]]: [[japanese cartoon]], he is referred to as "Stinkoman K 20X6".

His only [[Halloween Costumes|halloween costume]] (or "[[Wikipedia:cosplay|cosplay]]") was [[Wikipedia:Speed Racer|Speed Racer]]. 
[[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] called [[Strong Bad]] as Stinkoman in Strong Bad Email: [[island]].

*'''Debut:''' [[japanese cartoon]]
*[[:Category:Stinkoman Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

[[Category: 20X6 Characters]]

Soapbox

2004-12-10T19:10:07Z

Hysterical Woman: rewording the rewording

[[Image:11soaps.png|thumb|Homestar makes a stand]]

The '''Soap Box''' is a small wooden shipping box that [[Homestar Runner]] uses as a podium several toons.

''Also See: [[Box]]''

===Appearances===
* In the email "[[fingers]]," Homestar talks while standing on a box labelled "Eleven Soaps." In an easter egg one can see that an apparently dead [[Strong Sad]] is crammed inside this box.
* In "[[army]]" he recites his "fight speech" from atop a box labelled "Twelve Of Them."

[[Category: Inside Jokes]]

3 Times Halloween Funjob

2004-12-09T02:45:42Z

Hysterical Woman: /* Fun Facts */ added link

[[Image:ween03.png|thumb|The gang at Strong Sad's seance.]]

[[Strong Bad]], [[Strong Mad]], and [[The Cheat]] go toilet-papering. [[Strong Sad]] and [[Marzipan (character) | Marzipan]] try to contact the spirit of Credenza, her dead ficus plant. [[Homestar Runner]] tries to get a million pounds of candy, but [[The Poopsmith]] gives him some bum candy. And [[Coach Z]] and [[Bubs]] bring back some old memories.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Homestar Runner]], [[Bubs]], [[Strong Bad]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Marzipan (character) | Marzipan]], [[Strong Mad]], [[The Cheat]], [[The King of Town]], [[Pom Pom]], [[Coach Z]], [[The Poopsmith]], [[Stinkoman]] (easter egg), [[Homsar (character) | Homsar]] (easter egg)

'''Page Title:''' Get Scared NOW! Ask me how!

== Transcript ==
''{The scene opens with Homestar Runner at Bubs' Concession Stand, finalizing a transaction.}''

'''BUBS:''' ...and 16 cents is your change. ''{drops the change on the counter}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whoa! Free money!

'''BUBS:''' So, what are you gettin' into tonight, Homestar?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I dunno. Marzipan and those are gonna try to summon the spirit of her dead ficus plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probably just end up trick-or-treatin'.

'''BUBS:''' What about Strong Bad? What's he doin'?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I dunno. You can never tell with that guy.

''{Strong Bad approaches the concession stand.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ok, Bubs. I'll have 90 rolls of toilet paper and 60 dozen eggs. ''{looks around}'' ...and a corn dog.

'''BUBS:''' I got it all packed up for you in the wagon round back.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thanks, pally.

''{Strong Bad and Bubs go around back.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What is he up to?

''{titles:}''

<pre>3 TIMES HALLOWEEN FUNJOB

a halloween-type cartoon by the brothers chaps

talkings by matt and missy

MU-HU-HA-HA</pre>

'''MARZIPAN:''' Now Strong Sad, I need to make contact with Credenza. Homestar watered him with Yoo-Hoo while I was in Miami and he died and now I really miss him.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Ok. I'll need a photograph of the deceased and two box oreos.

''{cut to Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat in their costumes with their supplies for the evening}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, this is gonna be so great you guys. Everybody's houses and pumpkins and trees won't know what hit 'em. This is gonna be great!

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Hey, guys. What's up? What are we doing here? Making omelettes? Going to the bathroom? I'm cool with that.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Get out of here, old man! We're gonna be pelting people like you and houses like your castle with these eggs.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' C'mon! Let me hang out!

'''STRONG BAD:''' No way! Forget it! C'mon, los dudes. Let's go hit Marzipan's gazebo ''{pronounced gaze-boh}''.

''{they all leave and the King of Town chases after them.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' I'm dressed to hamburgle... Rubble! Rubble!

''{cut to Homestar, Pom Pom, Coach Z, and Bubs standing around in their costumes}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I bet I get...a million pounds of candy this year. A million pounds!

'''BUBS:''' Whatever. I'm goin' for quality over quantity.

'''COACH Z:''' Same here, Bubsy. I'm holdin' out for cookies with gold-plated chorclate chorps!

''{Bubs sighs}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' We'll see about that. C'mon, Pom Pom. Let's go find some houses giving away lead candies!

''{Cut to a view of the sky.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Let 'er rip! ''{many rolls of toilet paper are thrown into the air. The Stick is covered.}'' Yes! All will tremble at the crack of our eggs and the hush of our 2-ply toilet papers.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' I know how to use toilet paper. Let me try.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Listen... ahem... Your Highness, we're about to egg the everloving crap out of your castle. It just won't be any fun if you're standing there!

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Yeah it will! On account o' I'm totally cool!

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, you're not. But we're prepared to give you a dozen of these eggs and let you wash it down with a roll of toilet paper in exchange for you leaving us alone for the rest of eternity.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' It's a deal! ''{The King runs off, taking his eggs and toilet paper with him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's what I thought.

''{cuts to a door opening to reveal Coach Z and Bubs in their costumes}''

'''BUBS:''' What the? Oh, I remember this house from a couple of years ago.

'''COACH Z:''' Track or Trort!

'''BUBS:''' C'mon. man.

'''COACH Z:''' Ok. Trick or Treat.

''{At this point you can choose what candy to give them by dragging it onto them.}''

==== Swedish Fish ====
'''COACH Z:''' Oh, the Swordish Forsh!

'''BUBS:''' What did I just tell you?

'''COACH Z:''' Cut me some slack. It's a crowd-pleaser.

''{door closes}''

==== Delicious "Bag" ====
'''COACH Z:'''What is that? One of them old school candies? I got some old school for you'z. ''{rapping}'' This year Halloween falls on a weekend. Me and ghetto boys are trick-or treat-en'. Robbin' little kids for bags.

'''BUBS:''' Uh... he doesn't really mean we've been out robbin' little kids. ''{door begins to close}'' No, wait...''{slam}''

==== Zagnut ====
'''BUBS:''' Aw, Zagnut!

'''COACH Z:''' Yeah. Aw, Zagnut!

'''BUBS:''' No, no. Aw, Zagnut!

'''COACH Z:''' Right, right. Aw, Zagnut!

'''BOTH:''' Awwwww - ''{slam}''

''{you can also choose nothing by clicking on the pumpkin or any of the candy. If you do this, the door closes, and reopens with Stinkoman dressed as Speed Racer.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Check out my new cosplay! I'm a demon on wheels!

==== Zagnut ====
'''STINKOMAN:''' I can't eat that kind of bar because I'm in training. Don't you have of the other kinds of bars? You know... energy bars... or power bars... or training bars?

==== Prawn ====
'''STINKOMAN:''' I love prawns. Simple as that! ''{dances}''

==== Jar labeled "Akira" ====
'''STINKOMAN:''' Eh. Ew. Aah! Nnn! Eh! Ew! Ahhhhh! ''{Giant tentacles start coming out his body where his right arm should be.}'' That tickles.

''{cuts to Pom Pom and Homestar walking along}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Wow, Pom Pom. Did you know that lady? Why did she give you a hundred bucks? Alls I got was a dang old Bit o' Honey.

''{they stop at The Poopsmith, dressed up, who is sticking his shovel in and out of a pile of you-know-what}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Okay, Pom Pom. You knock this time. ''{Pom Pom does nothing}'' Fine. I'll ring the doorbell. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding! ''{He rocks his head back and forth as if he were banging it on a door}'' The Poopsmith! Trick or treat! ''{The Poopsmith offers some of his dung. Pom Pom bubbles something and leaves}'' Suit yourself. More for me. Lay it on me, Poop-Stick!

''{cuts to Strong Sad in his seance}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Credenza! Credwenzia! Crewdenz--

'''MARZIPAN:''' It's been two hours and we haven't heard anything. Credenza must hate me.

'''STRONG SAD:''' No, no! Maybe I just need to do this some more. Credenzell!

''{they hear a knocking sound}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' What's that? That must be him.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Yup. That sounds like a ficus.

''{it's Homestar Runner on the porch}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Let me in. Da, Da, Da. Let me in!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Hey, you're not a dead ficus plant!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You're so smart. I'm Homestar Runn--

'''MARZIPAN:''' Get in here, you guys. You're gonna scare away Credenza.

''{cuts to the King of Town polishing off his toilet paper}''

'''The King of Town:''' Doo! Not bad for a first course. I'm still hungry.

''{cuts back to everyone at Marzipan's house}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I told you I'd get a million libs of candy.

'''BUBS:''' That sure doesn't smell like candy.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, you're right! Poopsmith? Did you give me some bum candy?

'''BUBS:''' ''{snickers}'' He sure did!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Any minute now. ''{electrical disturbances occur}'' Oooo!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Whoa! Electrical disturbances. There's definitely a powerful spirit present.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Do you mean, like, the spirit of giving?

''{outside the King of Town is eating a string of candycorn lights}''
'''The King of Town:''' Oot oh. oot ooh.

'''MARZIPAN:''' You've got to be kidding me! Stop doing that right now.

''{she goes back in}''

'''The King of Town:''' Stop what? I don't do nothing!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Stupid, stupid King of Town. He gets on my nerv--''{loud banging occurs}'' What the crap!?

'''STRONG SAD:''' I think this is it!

''{outside, Strong Mad is punching the side of the house with a roll of TP over and over}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' WAH! WAH! WAH! WAH!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uhhh, that's not really the conventional way to roll a house, but, uh, whatever works!

'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{punches a hole in the house}'' HIGGINS!!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oh. Hi, Strong Mad. ''{mumbles}'' Stupid. This is stupid. He ate the candycorn lights.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Woah. What's going on in here? You guys having one of those stupid moron parties or something?

'''STRONG SAD:''' OK. Everybody say it with me this time.

'''EVERYONE EXCEPT STRONG BAD AND HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Credenza! Credenza!
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{simultaneously}'' This is boring! This is boring!
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Witches' brew! Witches' brew!

''{the lights go out}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Woah. The lights went out.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Woah. Magic.

'''BUBS:''' Yup. I've dealt with this before. Lights: definitely out.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' And somebody's a-grabbin' a-my butt.

''{the lights come on and there is a ficus plant on the table}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Credenza! You're alive!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Saints be praised! Credenza's alive!

'''STRONG SAD AND MARZIPAN:''' Yay!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ...and Strong Bad got to throw toilet paper at stuff!

'''STRONG BAD, STRONG MAD AND THE CHEAT:''' Yay!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:'''... and I got a million pounds of candy! ''{no one cheers}'' Yay. ...and the goblin showed up dressed like up a Santaman.

''{goblin dance}''

'''Everyone:''' Yay!

== Easter Eggs ==
*When Homestar asks "Did you give me some bum candy?" You can click on The Poopsmith to see Homsar's secret costume, Slash from Guns N Roses.
:'''HOMSAR:''' I'm open for interpretations!

*At the end when eveyone is standing around, click the rightmost candycorn light to see a bonus video! See "External Links" to view this video.
:''{Puppet Homestar is at a tennis court dressed as John McEnroe, holding a tennis racquet.}''

:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Seriously! You can't be serious! That ball was on the line! ''{taps ground with his racquet}'' Come on! I don't believe this. ''{he throws his racquet on the ground and storms off.}''

*After the cartoon is over you can click on some people to make things happen. These people are:
**'''The Poopsmith'''
::''{The Poopsmith rockets off to the right, flaming.}''
::'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Cool. Flaming Poopsmith.
::''{The Poopsmith reappears from the left.}''
**'''Strong Bad'''
::'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your El Debarge costume.
::'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm not El Debarge.
::'''BUBS:''' No, no, he's Miami Sound Machine.
::'''STRONG BAD:''' No, I'm not.
::'''COACH Z:''' He's Terence Trent D'arby!
::'''STRONG BAD:''' No,I'm Carmen freakin' Mir- no, wait. I'm Ozone. From Breakin'.
**'''Strong Sad'''
::'''COACH Z:''' Well, Strong Sad, this is a beautiful house you got here.
::'''STRONG SAD:''' This is not my beautiful house!
::'''COACH Z:''' Oh, and I haven't been introduced your beautiful wife yet, neither.
::'''STRONG SAD:''' This is not my beautiful wife!
**'''The Cheat'''
::'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, The Cheat... um... dress up as something different next year. Thing's creeping me out.
**'''Bubs'''
::'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Say, Bubs, I really like your dirty man outfit.
::'''BUBS:''' Whatever you say, Homestar.
**'''Marzipan'''
::'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Marzipan, what's with your sweater costume?
::'''STRONG BAD:''' The Log Lady, huh? Maybe you should get together with the Poopsmith!
**'''Coach Z'''
::'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Coach Z, I really like your Wesley Snakes outfit.
::'''COACH Z:''' I'm Kool Moe Dee! You know, from The Treacherous 3?
::'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, see, I only saw Treacherous 1 and 2, so, um, I wouldn't know.

*If you give Bubs and Coach Z the pumpkin candy basket next to them by the "House that gave sucky treats" door, Stinkoman comes out, dressed as Speed Racer - see the transcript. Stinkoman will also appear if you click on the light switch on the left side of the screen.

== Fun Facts ==
*See [[Halloween Costumes]] for more information on what everyone was wearing.
*If you give Stinkoman the jar with "Akira" on it youll get a surprise from the Anime movie of the same name.
*The Cheat's costume may refer to the first Homestar Runner book, which was written during the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta.
*Strong Bad references the first Halloween toon when he says "I'm Carmen freakin Miranda!" and the second Halloween toon when he says "I'm Carmen freakin Sandiego!"
*Coach Z's mention of Strong Sad's beautiful house and beautiful wife is a reference to the Talking Heads' song "Once in a Lifetime".
*When Homestar says "I told you I'd get a million libs of candy", he is trying to pronounce the abbreviation of pounds: "lbs".
*Coach Z's old school rap is the beginning of the fourth verse of the Geto Boys' "Mind Playin Tricks On Me".
*This toon suggests that [[Stinkoman]] lives in the present, and even in this country! This contradicts both all good sense and [[time capsule]], so don't worry about it.
** Remember, Stinkoman is from the future, so they might HAVE time machines then.....
*When Homestar says "someone is grabbing my butt," it is most likely Bubs, since he is right behind Homestar. Or his imagination.
*The sound the King of Town makes when he eats the candy corn lights is the same as when he eats the food flung at him in the game [[Revenge of the King]]
*The Delicious "Bag" is a reference to [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]].
*Cosplay (as mentioned in Stinkoman's greeting) is a form of dress-up done usually at anime conventions, where people dress up as anime characters they enjoy.
*The line "I'm a demon on wheels!" from Stinkoman's intro is taken from the Speed Racer theme song.
*If one listens well enough during the Credenza chant, one can hear an oddly accented voice, but it is not Coach Z. Even if you do not activate the associated Easter Egg, you can still distinctly hear Homsar's voice at the end of the chant (he's not saying anything different, his voice merely continues for a second after the others end).
* In the scene where Strong Sad is chanting Credenza's name by himself with Marzipan in the room, his voice sounds like it's reversed. This is a reference to certain scenes in the Twin Peaks series, where scenes were filmed with the actors speaking their lines backwards, then played in reverse. The lines ended up being "reversed" twice, making them understandable, but sounding very creepy.
*When everyone says "Yay!" together, it sounds like when they say it when [[The Strong Bad]] falls off the cliff in [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]].
*This toon marks the the third time [[Witches' Brew]], an inside joke of random proportions, has been mentioned.
*[[Van Buren]]'s face is on the coins given to Homestar at the beginning, marking yet another relatively-famed inside joke.
* The flaming manuever the Poopsmith does when you click on him is M. Bison's Psycho Crusher attack from Street Fighter.
*In every other Halloween episode (except the first, for the obvious reason that Homsar didn't exist yet), activating Homsar causes him to appear with the rest of the group at the end. This episode is the exception - whether or not you activate Homsar or Stinkoman, they do not appear at the end.

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/ween03.html watch "3 Times Halloween Funjob"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/ween03.swf view the flash file for "3 Times Halloween Funjob"]
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/tennis.html watch the easter egg tennis video]
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/tennis.swf view the flash file for the tennis video]

[[Category:Holiday Toons]][[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]][[Category:Bubs Filmography]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:Strong Sad Filmography]][[Category:Marzipan Filmography]][[Category:The Cheat Filmography]][[Category:The King of Town Filmography]][[Category:Pom Pom Filmography]][[Category:Coach Z Filmography]][[Category:The Poopsmith Filmography]][[Category:Homsar Filmography]][[Category:Stinkoman Filmography]][[Category:Puppet Stuff]]

3 Times Halloween Funjob

2004-12-09T02:43:42Z

Hysterical Woman: /* Fun Facts */ deleted stuff now found on Halloween Costume page

[[Image:ween03.png|thumb|The gang at Strong Sad's seance.]]

[[Strong Bad]], [[Strong Mad]], and [[The Cheat]] go toilet-papering. [[Strong Sad]] and [[Marzipan (character) | Marzipan]] try to contact the spirit of Credenza, her dead ficus plant. [[Homestar Runner]] tries to get a million pounds of candy, but [[The Poopsmith]] gives him some bum candy. And [[Coach Z]] and [[Bubs]] bring back some old memories.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Homestar Runner]], [[Bubs]], [[Strong Bad]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Marzipan (character) | Marzipan]], [[Strong Mad]], [[The Cheat]], [[The King of Town]], [[Pom Pom]], [[Coach Z]], [[The Poopsmith]], [[Stinkoman]] (easter egg), [[Homsar (character) | Homsar]] (easter egg)

'''Page Title:''' Get Scared NOW! Ask me how!

== Transcript ==
''{The scene opens with Homestar Runner at Bubs' Concession Stand, finalizing a transaction.}''

'''BUBS:''' ...and 16 cents is your change. ''{drops the change on the counter}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whoa! Free money!

'''BUBS:''' So, what are you gettin' into tonight, Homestar?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I dunno. Marzipan and those are gonna try to summon the spirit of her dead ficus plant, but that sounds dumb and boring, so I'll probably just end up trick-or-treatin'.

'''BUBS:''' What about Strong Bad? What's he doin'?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I dunno. You can never tell with that guy.

''{Strong Bad approaches the concession stand.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ok, Bubs. I'll have 90 rolls of toilet paper and 60 dozen eggs. ''{looks around}'' ...and a corn dog.

'''BUBS:''' I got it all packed up for you in the wagon round back.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thanks, pally.

''{Strong Bad and Bubs go around back.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What is he up to?

''{titles:}''

<pre>3 TIMES HALLOWEEN FUNJOB

a halloween-type cartoon by the brothers chaps

talkings by matt and missy

MU-HU-HA-HA</pre>

'''MARZIPAN:''' Now Strong Sad, I need to make contact with Credenza. Homestar watered him with Yoo-Hoo while I was in Miami and he died and now I really miss him.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Ok. I'll need a photograph of the deceased and two box oreos.

''{cut to Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat in their costumes with their supplies for the evening}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, this is gonna be so great you guys. Everybody's houses and pumpkins and trees won't know what hit 'em. This is gonna be great!

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Hey, guys. What's up? What are we doing here? Making omelettes? Going to the bathroom? I'm cool with that.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Get out of here, old man! We're gonna be pelting people like you and houses like your castle with these eggs.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' C'mon! Let me hang out!

'''STRONG BAD:''' No way! Forget it! C'mon, los dudes. Let's go hit Marzipan's gazebo ''{pronounced gaze-boh}''.

''{they all leave and the King of Town chases after them.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' I'm dressed to hamburgle... Rubble! Rubble!

''{cut to Homestar, Pom Pom, Coach Z, and Bubs standing around in their costumes}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I bet I get...a million pounds of candy this year. A million pounds!

'''BUBS:''' Whatever. I'm goin' for quality over quantity.

'''COACH Z:''' Same here, Bubsy. I'm holdin' out for cookies with gold-plated chorclate chorps!

''{Bubs sighs}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' We'll see about that. C'mon, Pom Pom. Let's go find some houses giving away lead candies!

''{Cut to a view of the sky.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Let 'er rip! ''{many rolls of toilet paper are thrown into the air. The Stick is covered.}'' Yes! All will tremble at the crack of our eggs and the hush of our 2-ply toilet papers.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' I know how to use toilet paper. Let me try.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Listen... ahem... Your Highness, we're about to egg the everloving crap out of your castle. It just won't be any fun if you're standing there!

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Yeah it will! On account o' I'm totally cool!

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, you're not. But we're prepared to give you a dozen of these eggs and let you wash it down with a roll of toilet paper in exchange for you leaving us alone for the rest of eternity.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' It's a deal! ''{The King runs off, taking his eggs and toilet paper with him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's what I thought.

''{cuts to a door opening to reveal Coach Z and Bubs in their costumes}''

'''BUBS:''' What the? Oh, I remember this house from a couple of years ago.

'''COACH Z:''' Track or Trort!

'''BUBS:''' C'mon. man.

'''COACH Z:''' Ok. Trick or Treat.

''{At this point you can choose what candy to give them by dragging it onto them.}''

==== Swedish Fish ====
'''COACH Z:''' Oh, the Swordish Forsh!

'''BUBS:''' What did I just tell you?

'''COACH Z:''' Cut me some slack. It's a crowd-pleaser.

''{door closes}''

==== Delicious "Bag" ====
'''COACH Z:'''What is that? One of them old school candies? I got some old school for you'z. ''{rapping}'' This year Halloween falls on a weekend. Me and ghetto boys are trick-or treat-en'. Robbin' little kids for bags.

'''BUBS:''' Uh... he doesn't really mean we've been out robbin' little kids. ''{door begins to close}'' No, wait...''{slam}''

==== Zagnut ====
'''BUBS:''' Aw, Zagnut!

'''COACH Z:''' Yeah. Aw, Zagnut!

'''BUBS:''' No, no. Aw, Zagnut!

'''COACH Z:''' Right, right. Aw, Zagnut!

'''BOTH:''' Awwwww - ''{slam}''

''{you can also choose nothing by clicking on the pumpkin or any of the candy. If you do this, the door closes, and reopens with Stinkoman dressed as Speed Racer.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Check out my new cosplay! I'm a demon on wheels!

==== Zagnut ====
'''STINKOMAN:''' I can't eat that kind of bar because I'm in training. Don't you have of the other kinds of bars? You know... energy bars... or power bars... or training bars?

==== Prawn ====
'''STINKOMAN:''' I love prawns. Simple as that! ''{dances}''

==== Jar labeled "Akira" ====
'''STINKOMAN:''' Eh. Ew. Aah! Nnn! Eh! Ew! Ahhhhh! ''{Giant tentacles start coming out his body where his right arm should be.}'' That tickles.

''{cuts to Pom Pom and Homestar walking along}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Wow, Pom Pom. Did you know that lady? Why did she give you a hundred bucks? Alls I got was a dang old Bit o' Honey.

''{they stop at The Poopsmith, dressed up, who is sticking his shovel in and out of a pile of you-know-what}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Okay, Pom Pom. You knock this time. ''{Pom Pom does nothing}'' Fine. I'll ring the doorbell. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding! ''{He rocks his head back and forth as if he were banging it on a door}'' The Poopsmith! Trick or treat! ''{The Poopsmith offers some of his dung. Pom Pom bubbles something and leaves}'' Suit yourself. More for me. Lay it on me, Poop-Stick!

''{cuts to Strong Sad in his seance}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Credenza! Credwenzia! Crewdenz--

'''MARZIPAN:''' It's been two hours and we haven't heard anything. Credenza must hate me.

'''STRONG SAD:''' No, no! Maybe I just need to do this some more. Credenzell!

''{they hear a knocking sound}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' What's that? That must be him.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Yup. That sounds like a ficus.

''{it's Homestar Runner on the porch}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Let me in. Da, Da, Da. Let me in!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Hey, you're not a dead ficus plant!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You're so smart. I'm Homestar Runn--

'''MARZIPAN:''' Get in here, you guys. You're gonna scare away Credenza.

''{cuts to the King of Town polishing off his toilet paper}''

'''The King of Town:''' Doo! Not bad for a first course. I'm still hungry.

''{cuts back to everyone at Marzipan's house}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I told you I'd get a million libs of candy.

'''BUBS:''' That sure doesn't smell like candy.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, you're right! Poopsmith? Did you give me some bum candy?

'''BUBS:''' ''{snickers}'' He sure did!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Any minute now. ''{electrical disturbances occur}'' Oooo!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Whoa! Electrical disturbances. There's definitely a powerful spirit present.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Do you mean, like, the spirit of giving?

''{outside the King of Town is eating a string of candycorn lights}''
'''The King of Town:''' Oot oh. oot ooh.

'''MARZIPAN:''' You've got to be kidding me! Stop doing that right now.

''{she goes back in}''

'''The King of Town:''' Stop what? I don't do nothing!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Stupid, stupid King of Town. He gets on my nerv--''{loud banging occurs}'' What the crap!?

'''STRONG SAD:''' I think this is it!

''{outside, Strong Mad is punching the side of the house with a roll of TP over and over}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' WAH! WAH! WAH! WAH!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uhhh, that's not really the conventional way to roll a house, but, uh, whatever works!

'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{punches a hole in the house}'' HIGGINS!!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oh. Hi, Strong Mad. ''{mumbles}'' Stupid. This is stupid. He ate the candycorn lights.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Woah. What's going on in here? You guys having one of those stupid moron parties or something?

'''STRONG SAD:''' OK. Everybody say it with me this time.

'''EVERYONE EXCEPT STRONG BAD AND HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Credenza! Credenza!
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{simultaneously}'' This is boring! This is boring!
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Witches' brew! Witches' brew!

''{the lights go out}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Woah. The lights went out.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Woah. Magic.

'''BUBS:''' Yup. I've dealt with this before. Lights: definitely out.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' And somebody's a-grabbin' a-my butt.

''{the lights come on and there is a ficus plant on the table}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Credenza! You're alive!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Saints be praised! Credenza's alive!

'''STRONG SAD AND MARZIPAN:''' Yay!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ...and Strong Bad got to throw toilet paper at stuff!

'''STRONG BAD, STRONG MAD AND THE CHEAT:''' Yay!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:'''... and I got a million pounds of candy! ''{no one cheers}'' Yay. ...and the goblin showed up dressed like up a Santaman.

''{goblin dance}''

'''Everyone:''' Yay!

== Easter Eggs ==
*When Homestar asks "Did you give me some bum candy?" You can click on The Poopsmith to see Homsar's secret costume, Slash from Guns N Roses.
:'''HOMSAR:''' I'm open for interpretations!

*At the end when eveyone is standing around, click the rightmost candycorn light to see a bonus video! See "External Links" to view this video.
:''{Puppet Homestar is at a tennis court dressed as John McEnroe, holding a tennis racquet.}''

:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Seriously! You can't be serious! That ball was on the line! ''{taps ground with his racquet}'' Come on! I don't believe this. ''{he throws his racquet on the ground and storms off.}''

*After the cartoon is over you can click on some people to make things happen. These people are:
**'''The Poopsmith'''
::''{The Poopsmith rockets off to the right, flaming.}''
::'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Cool. Flaming Poopsmith.
::''{The Poopsmith reappears from the left.}''
**'''Strong Bad'''
::'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Strong Bad, I really like your El Debarge costume.
::'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm not El Debarge.
::'''BUBS:''' No, no, he's Miami Sound Machine.
::'''STRONG BAD:''' No, I'm not.
::'''COACH Z:''' He's Terence Trent D'arby!
::'''STRONG BAD:''' No,I'm Carmen freakin' Mir- no, wait. I'm Ozone. From Breakin'.
**'''Strong Sad'''
::'''COACH Z:''' Well, Strong Sad, this is a beautiful house you got here.
::'''STRONG SAD:''' This is not my beautiful house!
::'''COACH Z:''' Oh, and I haven't been introduced your beautiful wife yet, neither.
::'''STRONG SAD:''' This is not my beautiful wife!
**'''The Cheat'''
::'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, The Cheat... um... dress up as something different next year. Thing's creeping me out.
**'''Bubs'''
::'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Say, Bubs, I really like your dirty man outfit.
::'''BUBS:''' Whatever you say, Homestar.
**'''Marzipan'''
::'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Marzipan, what's with your sweater costume?
::'''STRONG BAD:''' The Log Lady, huh? Maybe you should get together with the Poopsmith!
**'''Coach Z'''
::'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Coach Z, I really like your Wesley Snakes outfit.
::'''COACH Z:''' I'm Kool Moe Dee! You know, from The Treacherous 3?
::'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, see, I only saw Treacherous 1 and 2, so, um, I wouldn't know.

*If you give Bubs and Coach Z the pumpkin candy basket next to them by the "House that gave sucky treats" door, Stinkoman comes out, dressed as Speed Racer - see the transcript. Stinkoman will also appear if you click on the light switch on the left side of the screen.

== Fun Facts ==
*If you give Stinkoman the jar with "Akira" on it youll get a surprise from the Anime movie of the same name.
*The Cheat's costume may refer to the first Homestar Runner book, which was written during the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta.
*Strong Bad references the first Halloween toon when he says "I'm Carmen freakin Miranda!" and the second Halloween toon when he says "I'm Carmen freakin San Diego!"
*Coach Z's mention of Strong Sad's beautiful house and beautiful wife is a reference to the Talking Heads' song "Once in a Lifetime".
*When Homestar says "I told you I'd get a million libs of candy", he is trying to pronounce the abbreviation of pounds: "lbs".
*Coach Z's old school rap is the beginning of the fourth verse of the Geto Boys' "Mind Playin Tricks On Me".
*This toon suggests that [[Stinkoman]] lives in the present, and even in this country! This contradicts both all good sense and [[time capsule]], so don't worry about it.
** Remember, Stinkoman is from the future, so they might HAVE time machines then.....
*When Homestar says "someone is grabbing my butt," it is most likely Bubs, since he is right behind Homestar. Or his imagination.
*The sound the King of Town makes when he eats the candy corn lights is the same as when he eats the food flung at him in the game [[Revenge of the King]]
*The Delicious "Bag" is a reference to [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]].
*Cosplay (as mentioned in Stinkoman's greeting) is a form of dress-up done usually at anime conventions, where people dress up as anime characters they enjoy.
*The line "I'm a demon on wheels!" from Stinkoman's intro is taken from the Speed Racer theme song.
*If one listens well enough during the Credenza chant, one can hear an oddly accented voice, but it is not Coach Z. Even if you do not activate the associated Easter Egg, you can still distinctly hear Homsar's voice at the end of the chant (he's not saying anything different, his voice merely continues for a second after the others end).
* In the scene where Strong Sad is chanting Credenza's name by himself with Marzipan in the room, his voice sounds like it's reversed. This is a reference to certain scenes in the Twin Peaks series, where scenes were filmed with the actors speaking their lines backwards, then played in reverse. The lines ended up being "reversed" twice, making them understandable, but sounding very creepy.
*When everyone says "Yay!" together, it sounds like when they say it when [[The Strong Bad]] falls off the cliff in [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]].
*This toon marks the the third time [[Witches' Brew]], an inside joke of random proportions, has been mentioned.
*[[Van Buren]]'s face is on the coins given to Homestar at the beginning, marking yet another relatively-famed inside joke.
* The flaming manuever the Poopsmith does when you click on him is M. Bison's Psycho Crusher attack from Street Fighter.
*In every other Halloween episode (except the first, for the obvious reason that Homsar didn't exist yet), activating Homsar causes him to appear with the rest of the group at the end. This episode is the exception - whether or not you activate Homsar or Stinkoman, they do not appear at the end.

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/ween03.html watch "3 Times Halloween Funjob"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/ween03.swf view the flash file for "3 Times Halloween Funjob"]
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/tennis.html watch the easter egg tennis video]
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/tennis.swf view the flash file for the tennis video]

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User talk:68.94.94.168

2004-12-09T02:35:05Z

Hysterical Woman: the ex-wife thing

Please read the talk page before you try to edit Matt Chapman again.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 19:35, 8 Dec 2004 (MST)

Matt Chapman

2004-12-09T02:33:12Z

Hysterical Woman: ex-wife deleted: that's not proof, see talk!

[[Image:mattchapman.jpg|thumb|Chapman the Younger]]

'''Matt Chapman''' (born November 1, 1976), the younger of [[The Brothers Chaps]], is the voice actor for all of the characters on [http://www.homestarrunner.com homestarrunner.com] (except for [[Marzipan (character)|Marzipan]] and her counterparts, played by [[Missy Palmer]], as well as the voices in [[The Cheat]]'s cartoons, done by [[Mike Chapman]].)

You can see Matt and Mike live, in the flesh, in the G4 TV interview in the [[Links]] section.

== Favorite Food ==
*Egg salad sandwiches (with bits of bacon) [http://members.shaw.ca/kevinscott/Homestar/page4.html]
*When they were toddlers, Mike fed Matt cupcakes with toothpaste in them. [http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,59261,00.html] Matt retaliated by feeding Mike vinegar toast.
*Matt has a new-found enthusiasm for [[Wikipedia:Poutine|Poutine]]. [http://www.thesheaf.com/newspub/comments.cgi?view=1062]

== Careers ==

* Matt used to work for Earthlink - an internet company. [http://www.legionstudios.com/interviews/views/homestar/homestar.html]
* Matt also did voices for Preschool Protocops and some voices for webtoons and radio commercials for this pizza chain from his home town. [http://www.retrocrush.com/homestar/index2.html]
* The first day Matt quit his job (as the sales of merchandise were so high) he got jury duty. "It sucked. My first day of self-employment and I got put on a jury." Said Matt [http://www.legionstudios.com/interviews/views/homestar/homestar2.html]

== Acting ==
* The Chaps had a friend called David Green, he made a movie called ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0299458/ All The Real Girls]''. Matt ended up being in it, but he has no speaking part. He's in the background at one point just sitting on a couch. In the credits, he is listed as [[Strong Bad]]. Mike, [[Craig Zobel]] and Missy were also involved in the movie.
*He has a [http://oracleofbacon.org/cgi-bin/oracle/movielinks?firstname=Bacon%2c+Kevin&game=1&secondname=Chapman%2c+Matt+%28II%29&using=1 Bacon Number] of 2.

== Favorite Music ==
*Matt's top 5 favorite records of all time (in no particular order):
**Vince Guaraldi Trio - A Charlie Brown Christmas
**The Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime
**Neil Young - Rust Never Sleeps
**De La Soul - De La Soul is Dead
**Sebadoh - Bubble & Scrape

== Misc. ==
*He and his wife Jackie own a cat named Mabel together. Jackie helped write "[[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]" with Matt.

*On the Burning Horizon Forum, Matt Chapman posted a little message on the birthday.
<tt>Happy anniversary to each and all of ya'lls. You got a great little fansite here. High fives to everybody. Here's a treat from Strong Bad and Coach Z that'll be up for a little while.

www.videlectrix.com/bhz.mp3

Has Fun,
Matt C</tt>

== External Links ==

*[http://www.lsureveille.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/11/06/3fa9e1d30b7dd LSU Reveille Online, 6 Nov 2003]
*[http://www.thedailyeasternnews.com/news/2004/04/23/TheVerge/holy-Crap-669677.shtml Daily Eastern News, 23 Apr 2004]
*[http://members.shaw.ca/kevinscott/Homestar/index.html Kevin Scott interviews the brothers, 20 May 2003]
*[http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,59261,00.html Wired Interview, 23 Jun 2003]
*[http://www.thesheaf.com/newspub/comments.cgi?view=1062 The Sheaf (includes poutine mention) 12 May 2004]
*[http://www.legionstudios.com/interviews/views/homestar/homestar.html Legion Interview (dead link?)]
*[http://www.retrocrush.com/homestar/index2.html Retrocrush interview, date unknown (17 Jun 2004?)]
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1480095/ Matt's IMDb page]
[[Category: People]]

Dongolev

2004-12-08T20:25:33Z

Hysterical Woman: thumbnailed

[[Image:dongolev.png|thumb|Hotter than Mendelev?]]
'''Dongolev the archer''' is a character from the game [[Peasant's Quest]]. He can be found in the secret glen shotting arrows. His brother, [[Mendelev]] runs the archery booth. They don't always get along.

[[Category: Peasant's Quest]]
[[Category: Characters]]

Naked Ned

2004-12-08T20:23:54Z

Hysterical Woman: thumbnailed!

[[Image:nakedned.png|thumb|Peasants gone wild]]
'''Naked Ned''' is a character in [[Peasant's Quest]]. He hides behind a Wavy Tree (probably because he has no robe). Usually when you talk to him, he gets scared and runs away, but there is a way to talk to him for extra points. You get his robe later in the game to dress like a peasant. There is also a question about him in one of the Trog-Trivia questions.

[[Category: Peasant's Quest]]

File:dongolev.png

2004-12-08T20:19:41Z

Hysterical Woman: Dongolev the archer from Peasant's Quest

Dongolev the archer from Peasant's Quest

File:nakedned.png

2004-12-08T20:18:25Z

Hysterical Woman: Naked Ned from Peasant's Quest

Naked Ned from Peasant's Quest

Mendelev and Dongolev

2004-12-08T20:15:51Z

Hysterical Woman: made page

'''Mendelev the archer''' is a character from the game [[Peasant's Quest]]. He runs the archery booth. He doesn't always get along with his brother [[Dongolev]].

[[Category: Peasant's Quest]]
[[Category: Characters]]

Mendelev and Dongolev

2004-12-08T20:15:12Z

Hysterical Woman: made page

'''Mendelev the archer''' is a character from the game [[Peasant's Quest]]. He runs the archery booth. He doesn't always get along with his brother [[Dongolov]].

[[Category: Peasant's Quest]]
[[Category: Characters]]

Dongolev

2004-12-08T20:13:00Z

Hysterical Woman: added to page

'''Dongolev the archer''' is a character from the game [[Peasant's Quest]]. He can be found in the secret glen shotting arrows. His brother, [[Mendelev]] runs the archery booth. They don't always get along.

[[Category: Peasant's Quest]]
[[Category: Characters]]

Talk:Main Page 15

2004-12-08T19:45:10Z

Hysterical Woman: helium reference

== helium references ==

*The comment 'I'm sad that I'm flying' is a reference to the [[Strong Bad E-mail]] [[helium]], where you can click on the Cheat at the end to hear Strong Sad say 'I'm sad that he's flying'.

I think it's the other way around (helium refers to Main page 15), if only because it's funnier.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 12:45, 8 Dec 2004 (MST)

Strong Bad's Message Bored

2004-12-07T17:32:24Z

Hysterical Woman: /* Fun Facts */ de-linked (people should stop doing this!)

[[Image:Strong Bad Message Bored01.png|thumb|right|220px|I'm so Bored]]
The '''Strong Bad Message Bored''' was a fan bulletin board accessible through the [[Email]] menu. This board did not require registration, and the interface was very basic.

A common occurrence on the board was for someone to post that they had found a new easter egg by clicking on the 'O' in Message Bored, even though this egg had already been found and catalogued by the various fan groups of the time. The email "[[invisibility]]" makes fun of this by having the discarded [[Tandy 400]] divulge the "secret" of the message bored "O".

As the site grew in popularity, a newer more advanced message board was created at <nowiki>http://bored.homestarrunner.com</nowiki> but was closed citing overwhelming response within the first day of existence.

The header graphic and hidden games are still accessible through the "Email" menu, by clicking on a sticker on the side of the mailbox.

==Easter Eggs==
*Roll over Strong Bad's head to hear him say three different things.
**"Ohhhh, I'm so bored!"
**"!derob os m'I ,hhhhO"
**"Why don't you post something already?

*Click on the "O" in "Bored" to access three secret games.
**[[Armless Invaders]]
**[[The Cheat's Smoking Challenge]]
**[[Nighttime Driving Type Game]]

==Fun Facts==
*When Strong Bad's head is upside down, he says 'Oh, I'm so bored!" backwards.
*As Matt and Mike divulge in one of the DVD commentaries, one of the regulars of the old Strong Bad Message Bored was a certain Pablo, most well-known for sending in the email that was the basis for [[flag day]]

==External Links==
* See the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/boredgames.html page]
* View the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/superbored.swf flash file]
* View the [http://web.archive.org/web/20021017101343/homestarrunner.com/msgboard.mv?parm_func=showmain+parm_starting_root=1 original message bored] (archive)
* View the [http://web.archive.org/web/20030524065544/bored.homestarrunner.com/ new bored] after it closed (archive)

[[Category: Special Pages]]

crying

2004-12-07T03:56:14Z

Hysterical Woman: lick him? you crazy kids!

[[Image:lilbrudder.png|thumb|"Don't cry for me, The Cheatsantina"]]

'''StrongBadEmail #109'''

DJ Solerous asks Strong Bad if he had ever made Homestar cry.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Li'l Brudder]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Sad]]

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD''': ''{Rapping}'' I'm not going to sing an email song this week e-''{Talking}'' Oh. Never mind.

''{Pulls up email}''

''{Reading}''

<pre>YO yo Strong Bad,
Hey Strong Bad I was wondering if you
have ever made Homestar cry.
DJ Solerous, Australia.</pre>

''{After "Hey Strong Bad" he stops mid-sentence and says:}'' Well, which is it? "Yo yo" or "Hey" Strong Bad? I mean, the outcome of the rest of this whole email hinges on the decision made- ''{Without skipping a beat, as if it no longer matters, he finishes reading the email.}''

''{Typing}'' Whoa! ''THE'' DJ Solerous? What an honor! I saw you spin in a warehouse in Canberra a few years back! Uh, no wait. I lied. I, nor anyone else, have ever heard of DJ Smoldyface.

''{Pulls up blank page.}''

So, have I ever made Homestar cry? Uh, yes. Yes I have. A lot. I can pretty much make anybody cry just by showing them this drawing I invented of a one-legged puppy named "[[Li'l Brudder]]". ''{Holds up a picture of a one-legged puppy saying "I can make it on my own".}'' ''{Laughing}'' I mean, it cracks me up, but Homestar just falls apart when he sees him. A-like so... ''{Gets up and exits.}''

''{Cut to: field. Homestar is standing there, looking angrily offscreen right. Enter Strong Bad.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Yeah, you stay over there.

'''STRONG BAD''': Hey, Homestar. I've got something for you.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Thanks, Strong Bad! What is it what is it what is it what is it what is it?

'''STRONG BAD''': It's just this drawing I made...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': ''{Uneasy}'' Oh, no. Don't do it. You know the storm that will unleash!

'''STRONG BAD''': No! I think you'll like it!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': ''{Edge of tears}'' Strong Bad, no! I can't handle it!

'''STRONG BAD''': '''Ta-daaah!!''' ''{Holds the Li'l Brudder drawing in front of his face.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': ''{Breaks down crying, falls to his knees}'' No-ho-hooo... Li'l Brudder! That little guy... He's got the heart of a champion! You can make it, Li'l Brudder! You just keep scrapin' along! ''{Strong Bad looks on in disbelief; Homestar is lying on the ground, sobbing hysterically and kicking at the air}'' Li'l Brudder... I... ''I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING WITH MY LIFE!'' I-I'm thinking of getting into male modeling - o-or maybe high finance... '''I JUST DON'T KNOW!!'''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{as Li'l Brudder, shaking the drawing like a crude hand puppet}'' I'm gonna be all right, Homestar. I can make it on my own!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': ''{sobs}'' It's like I said -- the heart of a champion!

''{Enter the Cheat, from offscreen left.}''

'''THE CHEAT''': ''{in Cheatese}'' Hrm, Smxrf Grabmff??

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{Turns to The Cheat and does his Li'l Brudder act.}'' Hey, The Cheat, I'm gonna be a quarterback when I grow up! I'm gonna throw for 2,000 yards! ''{The Cheat begins sobbing in Cheatese.}'' Don't cry for me, The Cheat-entina...

''{Enter Strong Sad, his eyes red around the edges and all watery, apparently trying NOT to cry.}''

'''STRONG SAD''': Oh, Strong Bad, is Li'l Brudder named after me? Do you think of ME as a... one-legged puppy?

'''STRONG BAD''': Uhh, no. I think of you as a two-legged elephant... named "Tendafoot." ''{Holds up a picture of this, with "[[Tendafoot]]" saying "I'm tops!" Speaks as Tendafoot/Strong Sad:}'' I could power a small city with my whining!

'''STRONG SAD''': ''{dejected}'' I probably COULD.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': ''{still sobbing}'' Oh, Tenderfoot, can you tell me how to get the most out of life?

''{Cut to Compy 386. Strong Bad enters and sits down.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{typing}'' There ya go. Homestar crying. Not a problem. I bet all a y'alls are prob'ly crying all over the place. That Li'l Brudder sure knows how to tug at your heartstrings. ''{begins to choke up as he speaks}'' He's just such a trooper. Got such a strong one leg. ''{recovers}'' Um, yeah. I think I've got a ''{hesitates}'' food in the oven. I gotta go. ''{Gets up and hurries out.}''

''{The Paper comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on "YO Yo" to see a Strong Bad yo-yo.
*Click on "''The'' DJ Solerous" to see a flyer for a DJ event. "Don't tell the cops!!"
*Click on "Homestar" at the end to see more of him crying.
::'''Transcript:'''
::''{Homestar is still bawling.}''
::'''HOMESTAR''': Ohh, Tendafoot! Can you tell me what to do with myself? I feel like I'm at a crossroads, and there's like, a Denny's on one corner, and an IHOP on the other!
::''{Homestar is kneeling over the Tendafoot drawing.}''
::'''HOMESTAR''': Can you give me some sound financial advice?
::''{Homestar is laying on the ground again.}''
::'''HOMESTAR''': Tendafoot, can you help advise me on my future?
*Click on "Li'l Brudder" at the end to see Li'l Brudder falling off his one leg.

== Fun Facts ==
*The DJ flyer is a reference to an easter egg in [[techno]] for The Cheat's light-switch rave.
**On the DJ flyer, "the DJ from Roseanne" is a reference to the television show "[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094540/ Roseanne]" where a character named "David Jacob 'D. J.' Conner" was played by actor Michael Fishman. In the flyer for The Cheat's light-switch rave in [[techno]], D.J. from Full House was supposed to arrive.
*When Li'l Brudder falls over, his leg makes the same sound that [[Homsar (character)|Homsar]] does when he walks, as well as the jetpacks on the [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] toon.
*"Don't cry for me the Cheatentina" is a reference to the song "Don't Cry For Me Argentina" from Andrew Lloyd Webber's "Evita".
*It may be coincidental, but Little Brother is the name of the dog in Disney's ''Mulan''.
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canberra Canberra] is Australia's capital city. It is situated between the country's two largest rival cities, Melbourne and Sydney. Note Strong Bad's horrible mispronunciation of "Canberra".
*Homestar asking Tenderfoot for some financial advice in an easter egg might be a reference to [[Decemberween Kids' Book]].
*When Homestar is rolling around on the ground, you get to see the tread on his shoes, which no longer has a star on it like it did in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]].

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail109.html watch "crying"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail109.swf view the flash file for "crying"]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=353 forum thread re: "crying"]

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