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Talk:Punkin Show

2009-12-01T07:14:19Z

KatAngel: /* No Paint Daubs not mentioned in rules */

== Could I? ==
Is this where I request to do the transcript? [[User:Toonypie|Toonypie]]
:I beleive it is. {{User:Crab Attack1999/sig}} 22:00, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
::You can't "request" a transcript. You just have to be lucky and do it before anyone else gets to it. If no one else has gotten to it, just plunk {{t|transcriptinprogress}} down on the appropriate section, and get to work. And ''keep'' working, or you'll lose your right to it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:09, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Okay fine, i'm new at this. You don't have bite my head off (Get on on my case about it, if you don't know the expression). {{User:Crab Attack1999/sig}} 22:30, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Also, Who's working on the transcript anyway? I know it isn't me. {{User:Crab Attack1999/sig}}
:::::''Nobody edit please :D Doing some homework then finishing.''
:::::Huh? What in the— You can't do that!... can he? {{User:That_game_dude386/sig}} 00:28, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::Agreed. Homework is a good call, but no dibs. Never fear, Toonypie, there'll be more transcripts in the future. [[User:JamesLucas|JamesLucas]] ([[User talk:JamesLucas|" "]] or [[Special:Contributions/JamesLucas|+]]) 00:30, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Dang, these transcripts get claimed ''fast''... almost ''too'' fast, it seems. I think we need to make the guidelines a bit more clear for the pageinprogress template (namely when a person loses their claim to a transcript) to prevent this kind of thing from happening again. Maybe a more clearly defined time limit? {{User:That_game_dude386/sig}} 00:40, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::1:Yeah you can't hold off on something, or it's gonna get claimèd. Plus sign, you don't need to do your homework now. We get off tomorrow for Veteran's Day. 2: They do get too claimed fast. That's prolly because there's prolly like *estimated guess*100 peopleses trying to go for it at once. But it takes longer to do transcripts then it does to claim them. Weird...ed out. {{User:Crab Attack1999/sig}} 01:21, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::That Game Dude, how much more clear can we make "15-30 minutes"? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:32, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::No, what I mean is a way for people to realise when a pageinprogress is invalidated. It can be very frustrating to have to check page history, count 15 minutes, take down the pip, then cause an edit conflict because the guy wasn't ''regularly'' saving, and he's mad because 30 minutes haven't passed. Perhaps saying "save after 20 minutes" instead of "try to save every 15-30 minutes" would help? {{User:That_game_dude386/sig}} 02:48, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::The instruction to save every 15 to 30 minutes is a friendly reminder, not a strict timer. At 30 minutes plus 1 second, we're not gonna yank the template off the page and declare the transcript open for anyone else to claim. On the other hand, after an hour with no update, we just might. Or we might not. It depends on the page, the time of day, and other factors. The template is intended to prevent edit conflicts, and that's all. Other editors are requested not to edit a particular section as a courtesy. The person doing the major editing should likewise extend other editors the courtesy of letting them know work is still being done. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:37, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
:''Discussion continued at [[Template talk:inprogress#This tag is not a claim]]''

== ????! ==

<s>For the ????! I think he said laditlemen. This is another one of those, uh what's it called? Portmanteau, that's it. It's another portmanteau, because laditlemen is a combanation of "Ladies" and "Gentlemen", but i'm not exact on what he said. But it did sound like he said laditlemen. And if it is, i'd be happy to add it to the portmanteaus page. {{User:Crab Attack1999/sig}} 23:06, 10 November 2009 (UTC)</s>
Once a-craping-gain, nevermind that. But if noone added it to the page, i'll do it. {{User:Crab Attack1999/sig}} 23:08, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

:SUCCESS! Nobody beat me to adding it to portnateaus. So gentlemadies and ladentlemen, none of you have to worry 'bout that. {{User:Crab Attack1999/sig}} 23:20, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

==Fadey Screen==
This reminds me of the prize slides in Press Your Luck.
:It does resemble that, as well as the category displays in The Joker's Wild. --[[User:TimMierz|TimMierz]] 22:31, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

== Oprah: What is with her? ==

I think Homestar's line about everyone in the audience getting something (to have to give him five bucks) is a reference to how Oprah gives the entire audience prizes on her show. Or is this too common among other shows to be a reference? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:54, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah, that's kinda common. Ellen DeGeneres does it too. (Was the "This was nrought to you by..." line a ref to Sesame Street, which celebrated its 40th anniversary this week?)[[Special:Contributions/216.164.162.244|216.164.162.244]] 16:00, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
::No, I think that's pretty common too. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:21, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

== No Paint Daubs not mentioned in rules ==

Okay, this is getting ''really'' annoying. When I say that "it was never listed in the contest rules", I refer to the actual, very real contest- not the ''Homestar's'' contest, I mean TBC's contest, the one that showed up on the main page, the one ''Homestar is '''supposed''' to be judging.'' I am not explaining the joke; I am trying to note that the "no paint" rule was never specified in the contest details, and Homestar acts as if it were. '''PLEASE STOP UNDOING MY STUFF WITHOUT READING IT. I WORDED IT POORLY, I ''AM TRYING TO FIX IT.''''' Okay, we clear on that? Good. Now, are there any non-"It's explaining the joke" objections? {{User:That_game_dude386/sig}} 23:17, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
:It's still explaining the joke. Even if you phrased a remark something like "The official rules did not mention no paint daubs" it wouldn't be notable, since it is implicit in a pumpkin '''carving''' contest that it is not, in fact, a pumpkin '''painting''' contest. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:21, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
::The equivalent would be "Strong Bad said that The Ugly One costume didn't count, but the rules didn't explicitly say that you couldn't draw a picture on a giant box and put the box over your head." I say it's non-notable. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:40, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
:::I think it *is* notable. Why? Because, not having read the official rules as I had no intention of entering, I came to the wiki page after watching this toon with the *explicit* intention of finding out whether that was actually mentioned in the rules, or whether Homestar was just being Homestar. I think it's definitely worthwhile to mention it; "No paint on your pumpkins" is something that *would* actually appear in a pumpkin carving contest's rules; conversely, "no costumes composed of a sheet of paper with a drawing of a stick figure on it" is *not* something you would expect to see in a costume contest's rules, and I doubt anyone is going to actually look to see whether it was there or not. The wiki exists as a source of information for fans, does it not? If any information is useful, should it not be included, when, as in this case, it is of interest and not inherently obvious? [[User:KatAngel|KatAngel]] 07:14, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

careerday

2009-03-10T09:31:32Z

KatAngel: redirect to Career Day

#REDIRECT [[Career Day]]

Talk:4 Gregs

2009-02-25T17:17:01Z

KatAngel: /* Cars */ oops, forgot to sign.

== The inside refrence no one has been waiting for!==

The toon menu description(The spin-off no one has been waiting for!)is a refrence to narrator.--[[User:Mariofan1000|Mariofan1000]] 08:11, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
"The spin-off no one was ''asking'' for" is what it says actually, but you're right, this is a reference to something, I just can't remember what.

:[[Strong Badman Characters#Scanton|The CROSSOVER no one was asking for!]] [[Special:Contributions/216.11.35.3|216.11.35.3]] 16:31, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

== Unwritten Fun Facts ==

Who's doing the Explanations, Remarks, and Real-World References? {{User:Neox/sig}} 09:41, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:Whoever has one to plug in. Duties aren't assigned, and fun facts are never "inprogress". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:48, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::I just added a RWR. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to try to go back to sleep kthxbai. Insomnia sucks. Good night! {{User:Neox/sig}} 10:06, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:Indeed, many toons ''don't'' have all three of the categories you mentioned, because there's nothing to say. It's not an automatic "this is a toon, so it '''always''' has Explanations, Trivia, Remarks, and both types of References" sort of deal. (Not saying that this toon can't have them. Just saying it's not automatic. The subcategories are added as needed.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:07, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

== 5 Gregs??? ==

Shouldn't it be noted that there's a regular Greg, making it 5 Gregs? [[User:Kumquaticus|*BOOM!*Kumquaticus*BOOM!*]] 12:39, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:He's not part of the gang, I guess. [[Special:Contributions/72.95.4.185|72.95.4.185]]

== Misspelled Japanese? ==

Regarding the Okasan remark: I dunno, I'm kinda hesitant to say a transliteration of a japanese word is misspelled. It depends on the system of romanization you use. The fact we have is kind of akin to saying "Tokyo is misspelled. It is more properly spelled Tookyoo or Toukyou" -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.171|132.183.151.171]] 17:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing. Besidies, I don't think the a with the macron is in the font. Also, it wouldn't fit over ''moms'' very well if there were two a's. --[[User:Alexie|Alexie]] 17:55, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

In either romanization, it should be spelled "okāsan" or "okaasan" not "okasan". The difference between "Tokyo" and "okāsan" is that "Tokyo" is technically an English word, just like "Japan" is an English word and not a romanization of a Japanese word. It might also be worth mentioning that he mispronounced the word. He prounouced it like it was spelled (with one 'a') instead of how "okāsan" is supposed to be pronounced; which is why that macron or second 'a' is so important. "Okasan" literally means "hill-three" or "Mr. Hill". Incidentally, "Tokyo" in Japanese would be either "Tōkyō" or "Toukyou", but not "TooKyoo". Just sayin' :P {{User:TrueTsumetai/sig}} 01:00, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:The pronunciation part has some merit, I agree. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 01:08, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== Unpluralized plurals? ==

So I remember from a while back a conversation about adding a page for unpluralized plurals... using a singular for something that would ordinarily be pluralized (like Bubs' quote "And it sold like [[DNA Evidence|'''hotcake!''']]"). The page wasn't created because there weren't three instances, but now we have Tompkins' quote "Ow! All my '''client!'''" There was a third instance way back, but now it's slipped out of my head, if anyone can recall it... {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 19:23, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:I can, it was my idea, and it's on a main page talk archive somewhere. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:25, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::[[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 23#Singularized pluralizations|Here it be.]] {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:28, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Ah yes, "the '74s was the prime of my dating [[Decemberween Short Shorts|'''year''']]" was the third example. I'd say this merits a page, although there is the issue of finding a good commando name... {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 19:30, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::::"Singular instead of plural"? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:52, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:Well, I decided to go ahead and [[Singular Instead of Plural|create it]]. It could certainly use some cleaning up though... {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 04:19, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::I could've sworn Ornament Z said '''"years"'''. {{User:Neox/sig}} 13:12, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::Try watching it again. He CLEARLY says "year". That's the whole joke that he only had one. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:53, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== Can you use this pic I made? ==
[[:Image:Sci-FiGregUhh.PNG]] {{User:Neox/sig}} 21:35, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:Use it for what? Where? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:39, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::Anything; anywhere kthxbai. {{User:Neox/sig}} 13:14, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== HAXXORED ==

Is that a real word or isn't it? {{User:Coach z's cool/sig}} 22:41, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:It's as much of a real word as any [[internet slang]] is... so it depends on your definition of "real word". Mine says "no". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::But it is not a word created by the Brothers Chaps. People use it on the internet. It means "Hacked". {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 00:08, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Ah, I see. {{User:Coach z's cool/sig}} 00:38, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Wasn't there a TGS where "MAXXORED" was pronounced "Maxed"? [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 00:08, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

== Is that what they're saying? ==

When the teen girl squad voice says "SciFi Greg, 1 Greg, D n' D Greg, 2 Greg, etc., the article says "D n' D Greg, 2 Gregs, with an s. But in the toon, they say it without an s and write it without one until they say "4 Gregs!" I hope I didn't confuse anyone... Let me know if I totally lost everyone.
:You're right! I fixed it in the transcript. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 00:14, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== "Both my names" ==

A reference to Cheerleader and Virginia/Joy/Jennifer? Maybe? [[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]] 00:15, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:Nah, it's just a joke that he got her name completely wrong and yet somehow she's happy that he ''only'' got ''both'' her first and last names wrong. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== Spread ==

I am a football freak, and i know terms when i see them. The spread is an offense which usually consists of 3 to 5 wide recievers. To beat the spread, is to have a defense in which the spread is negated. The explanations say it is a gambling thing, which could be correct, but, it does not apply to this.
:I think the gambling definition fits the context better. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 00:45, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
::How? They're at a FOOTBALL game. I think the football definition fits a whole lot better. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:47, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:::People spread bet on football all the time. Saying "at least" beat the spread seems to imply that the mascot doesn't believe the team can win, but they should at least try to beat the spread number set by bookies. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 00:48, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Or it could mean "at least make one decent play" {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:55, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Of course. I said that I think it fits the gambling context better, meaning it fits both to a degree. It's pretty ambiguous. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 00:59, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::And i'm saying that i'm not sure that's the case. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:00, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::It's not ambiguous at all. The Growlbacks have 0 points, and the visitors have 24, presumably six seconds into the second quarter (we know it's the first half, and if it's only six seconds into the ''game'' then the home team is ''really'' in trouble (I suppose it would be possible if the Growlbacks received the kickoff three times, all three times they muffed the ball in or very near their own end zone and the visitors recovered it and scored touchdowns, and all three times they went for a two-point conversion)). Suffice it to say they're getting creamed, and at this rate they'll lose 96 to 0 or worse. The mascot would just like them to do well enough to defy the oddsmakers. A Google search for [[Google:"beat+the+spread"|"beat the spread"]] turns up far more results for gambling than an offensive formation, of which WikiAnswers gives an excellent [http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_it_mean_to_beat_the_spread explanation]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
"Beat the spread" is clearly a gambling reference. Yes, "spread" is a football term, but "beat the spread" means what It's Dot Com explained.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 04:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:The first thing I thought when he said it was gambling. I've never heard anyone ever say "beat the spread" when they're on defense. I understand the concept of the phrase, but it makes no sense. It's the ''spread'' that beats the ''defense'', not the other way around. If the defense beats the spread, then it's just a good play. [[Special:Contributions/24.165.150.118|24.165.150.118]] 12:18, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== G ==

The G on the chest of The Mascott/Greg from AP Math class is another reference to [[G]]'s. --[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 03:23, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:I think it's a reference to the team name, the Growlbacks.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 19:27, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::It's probably both. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:30, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== Escher? ==

So the ending where the gregs are drawing the comic of the girls drawing the comic of the gregs really reminds me of the famous [[Wikipedia:Drawing Hands|Drawing Hands]] lithograph by Escher. I feel like at the very least that sequence has to be referencing SOMETHING and this was the first thing that came to mind. Thoughts? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 06:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:I think if it was a reference to the Escher image, then there would be a more obvious, visual, reference. Now, seriously, that sequence was so amazing that you can't believe it's original? Give the guys some credit! ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:39, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== Open source is free software ==

@DeFender1031:
You said "that's not true though, there's more to open source than being free" when editing http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/4_Gregs

Free as in freedom. The Free Software Foundation, the GNU Project and I prefer it be called free software, so that _freedom_ is at the forefront of people's minds when they use "open source" software. Open source is a name popularized by people who didn't want to talk about the political and ethical decisions made when using free software("Open source") So, the Free Software Foundation being the ones responsible for the Free Software Movement, which is what started all free software, and lead to "open source" software. Also, GNU prefers "Linux" be called GNU/Linux. Free software such as Firefox, GIMP, Audacity, and GNU/Linux itself wouldn't exist without freedom being at the forefront of these respective company's minds. So, if FSF and GNU prefer the name "free software" over "open source" it should be called so.

So I was right to add "Though more appropriately called free software." in the Explanations section.

:There are two problems with this: a) most readers here will read that as "free as in beer" rather than "free as in freedom" and (more importantly) b) open source does not mean free. You can have proprietary software that you pay for that is also open source. Considering that it's not that relevant for the homestar runner universe, we should only give a minimal definition of the term and not go into the discussion whether open source means free or not.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:39, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== TBC Material or Fansite? ==

Was [http://tompkins.tv/ Tompkins' Hot Lady Escort Service] created by TBC or by eager fans? See, I noticed that the webpage has a link to our 4 Gregs article and thought about adding this fact to [[The Brothers Chaps' Fansite Acknowledgments]]. But I don't actually know who registered the website. Can anyone help? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:41, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:Clearly a fansite. Similar to virtualpizz. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:53, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== Custom music styles ==

Did anyone notice how when the four Gregs are being announced the instrumentals change to match each one? Like SciFi Greg had some futuristic-sounding music, D n' D Greg had what sounded like minstrel music, Open Source Greg had some digital sounds, and Japanese Culture Greg had a Japanese instrument (I don't know what it's called). Just thought it was kinda neat. I didn't want to put it because I didn't know if it would be considered important or not.
:Yes, that would be perfect information for the transcript if nowhere else. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:16, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== All my client are belong to us ==

"All my client" seems like an "all your base" reference to me, especially since open source Greg is into computers. [[User:Unbalanced|Unbalanced]] 23:45, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:I think "are belong to us" is conspicuous by its absense. Without it, all we have is "All" + possessive pronoun + singular noun, which seems too generic to be a solid reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:11, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::I beg to differ. To me, every time i see "All" + possessive pronoun + singular noun + distinctively nerdy context = "all your base". I think it's very likely a reference, though i'm not 100% certain. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:59, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:::The singular would seem to be a reference to how little business Tompkins is doing.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 04:08, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::::I kinda agree. It's too generic to be a reference, and it's more like the joke about Coach Z's dating year. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.189|132.183.138.189]] 04:10, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::You make a good point, i hadn't thought of it quite like that. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:16, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::To touch on a point you made above, I don't think there's distinctively nerdy context. Tompkins's website is for a hot-lady escort service, which isn't nerdy at all. If it were Open Source Greg's website, then the content would be different and almost certainly would be distinctively nerdy, but it's not his. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:18, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::You already got me to agree... [[Malloween Commercial|WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?!]] {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 05:44, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Well, perhaps I should have said "to touch on a point DeFender made above", since I was attempting to persuade anyone who reads this discussion, not just one person. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:00, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:::+1 think its a reference to "all your base". The ''instant'' I saw the reference in the toon I thought that, and actually jumped into this article to see if you fine folk caught it. -- [[User:Ch'marr|Ch'marr]] 18:08, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

== Lowercase I's ==

Why is there no link? I know for a FACT that there are SEVERAL instances in this toon. {{User:Neox/sig}} 02:48, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:Strong Bad's handwriting doesn't count, because that font's UPPERCASE I's have dots. All the TGS stuff is out because of it. See the lowercase i article for more info. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:00, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== Krenshar ==

In D&D, a [http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/krenshar.htm Krenshar] is a cat-like creature that is able to pull the skin off its face. This may be a reference to the mascot's mask.
:That's a good point. Regular Greg removes the cat mask from his face, like a krenshar can remove the skin from its face. I think it's worth noting. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.189|132.183.138.189]] 16:03, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== Cars ==

Is it just me, or is the background music strikingly similar to Gary Numan's "Cars?" No, it's probably not worth listing on the page, but it is an interesting coincidence, nonetheless. [[User:KatAngel|KatAngel]] 16:29, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

:I don't think so. I think that it is just the TGS theme played with another instrument.[[User:Lord-z|Lord-z]] 22:41, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
::It's nothing like the regular TGS theme. I am not familiar with "cars" so i can't have an opiniuon on that, but it's definitely not the TGS theme. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:05, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

:It has the same notes as the first bar or so of "Cars", but not the same rhythm. And the way it's played, it doesn't really seem to invoke the song, so I don't think it's noteworthy (no pun intended). I wouldn't think it a reference unless it contained more than a bar's worth of note, and actually made use of the song' signature riff.
::Well, it is the same rhythm, except the 4gregs one has two grace notes at the beginning and doesn't repeat the last note of the riff before starting it over. Other than that, it's just a series of four eighth notes in both songs. But, I put it on the talk page instead of the actual page because I agree, it's not at all noteworthy, and certainly not intentional, just, IMO, an interesting coincidence. (And as we know, coincidences don't qualify as fun facts.)[[User:KatAngel|KatAngel]] 17:17, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

== Huzzah ==

"Huzzah" could be a reference to the, often-downloaded, freeware video game "Cave Story", where "Huzzah" is spoken by Balrog on each appearance. See the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huzzah wikipedia entry]. "Huzzah" in reference to Balrog turned into a minor Internet meme. -- [[User:Ch'marr|Ch'marr]] 18:16, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
:That's possible but not especially likely. It's just [[AHD:61/76/H0337600.html|a word]] to express triumph, memorably used by the likes of Hobbes (from ''Calvin and Hobbes'') and Niles (from ''Frasier''). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:30, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
::It's doubtful. "Huzzah!" is an interjection often used at Renaissance fairs, comic conventions, and such, as well as in Groo the Wanderer. Very likely, it's not a direct reference to anything except the Greg Brothers' geekiness.

== Menu preview ==
Look at the robot that Japanese culture greg holds. Is that Scantron? [[User:The Pony man|The Pony man]] 21:18, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
: No. Scantron's [[big white face|definitely of the square-headed persuasion]]. I have no idea ''what'' it's supposed to be, if anything (it's probably just supposed to be a generic robot) but Scantron ain't it. 'Sides, it's already been established that Scantron is Sci-Fi Greg territory. ;) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:24, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
: Oh, my apologies, I didn't catch what you were talking about before. I didn't realize the menu preview had a different robot than the one in-toon. Still, I don't think it's Scantron. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:30, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

== Wikipedia plagiarism ==

We seem to be taking our explanations on "open source", "BitTorrent" are direct quotes from Wikipedia. While I would like to correct these, I am not only unsure how to rephrase them right, but I need to leave the wiki in a few minutes, so I may as well bring this up.
:See how Wikipedia is licensed to be freely copied (as is HRWiki), I don't see much of a problem. I would agree, however, such how wholesale copying should be discouraged, but for a single line to introduce an explanation (with a link to the full article) seem to okay. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:38, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:4 Gregs

2009-02-25T17:16:34Z

KatAngel: /* Cars */

== The inside refrence no one has been waiting for!==

The toon menu description(The spin-off no one has been waiting for!)is a refrence to narrator.--[[User:Mariofan1000|Mariofan1000]] 08:11, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
"The spin-off no one was ''asking'' for" is what it says actually, but you're right, this is a reference to something, I just can't remember what.

:[[Strong Badman Characters#Scanton|The CROSSOVER no one was asking for!]] [[Special:Contributions/216.11.35.3|216.11.35.3]] 16:31, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

== Unwritten Fun Facts ==

Who's doing the Explanations, Remarks, and Real-World References? {{User:Neox/sig}} 09:41, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:Whoever has one to plug in. Duties aren't assigned, and fun facts are never "inprogress". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:48, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::I just added a RWR. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to try to go back to sleep kthxbai. Insomnia sucks. Good night! {{User:Neox/sig}} 10:06, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:Indeed, many toons ''don't'' have all three of the categories you mentioned, because there's nothing to say. It's not an automatic "this is a toon, so it '''always''' has Explanations, Trivia, Remarks, and both types of References" sort of deal. (Not saying that this toon can't have them. Just saying it's not automatic. The subcategories are added as needed.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:07, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

== 5 Gregs??? ==

Shouldn't it be noted that there's a regular Greg, making it 5 Gregs? [[User:Kumquaticus|*BOOM!*Kumquaticus*BOOM!*]] 12:39, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:He's not part of the gang, I guess. [[Special:Contributions/72.95.4.185|72.95.4.185]]

== Misspelled Japanese? ==

Regarding the Okasan remark: I dunno, I'm kinda hesitant to say a transliteration of a japanese word is misspelled. It depends on the system of romanization you use. The fact we have is kind of akin to saying "Tokyo is misspelled. It is more properly spelled Tookyoo or Toukyou" -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.171|132.183.151.171]] 17:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing. Besidies, I don't think the a with the macron is in the font. Also, it wouldn't fit over ''moms'' very well if there were two a's. --[[User:Alexie|Alexie]] 17:55, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

In either romanization, it should be spelled "okāsan" or "okaasan" not "okasan". The difference between "Tokyo" and "okāsan" is that "Tokyo" is technically an English word, just like "Japan" is an English word and not a romanization of a Japanese word. It might also be worth mentioning that he mispronounced the word. He prounouced it like it was spelled (with one 'a') instead of how "okāsan" is supposed to be pronounced; which is why that macron or second 'a' is so important. "Okasan" literally means "hill-three" or "Mr. Hill". Incidentally, "Tokyo" in Japanese would be either "Tōkyō" or "Toukyou", but not "TooKyoo". Just sayin' :P {{User:TrueTsumetai/sig}} 01:00, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:The pronunciation part has some merit, I agree. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 01:08, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== Unpluralized plurals? ==

So I remember from a while back a conversation about adding a page for unpluralized plurals... using a singular for something that would ordinarily be pluralized (like Bubs' quote "And it sold like [[DNA Evidence|'''hotcake!''']]"). The page wasn't created because there weren't three instances, but now we have Tompkins' quote "Ow! All my '''client!'''" There was a third instance way back, but now it's slipped out of my head, if anyone can recall it... {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 19:23, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:I can, it was my idea, and it's on a main page talk archive somewhere. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:25, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::[[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 23#Singularized pluralizations|Here it be.]] {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:28, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Ah yes, "the '74s was the prime of my dating [[Decemberween Short Shorts|'''year''']]" was the third example. I'd say this merits a page, although there is the issue of finding a good commando name... {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 19:30, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::::"Singular instead of plural"? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:52, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:Well, I decided to go ahead and [[Singular Instead of Plural|create it]]. It could certainly use some cleaning up though... {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 04:19, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::I could've sworn Ornament Z said '''"years"'''. {{User:Neox/sig}} 13:12, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::Try watching it again. He CLEARLY says "year". That's the whole joke that he only had one. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:53, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== Can you use this pic I made? ==
[[:Image:Sci-FiGregUhh.PNG]] {{User:Neox/sig}} 21:35, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:Use it for what? Where? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:39, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::Anything; anywhere kthxbai. {{User:Neox/sig}} 13:14, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== HAXXORED ==

Is that a real word or isn't it? {{User:Coach z's cool/sig}} 22:41, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:It's as much of a real word as any [[internet slang]] is... so it depends on your definition of "real word". Mine says "no". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::But it is not a word created by the Brothers Chaps. People use it on the internet. It means "Hacked". {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 00:08, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Ah, I see. {{User:Coach z's cool/sig}} 00:38, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Wasn't there a TGS where "MAXXORED" was pronounced "Maxed"? [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 00:08, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

== Is that what they're saying? ==

When the teen girl squad voice says "SciFi Greg, 1 Greg, D n' D Greg, 2 Greg, etc., the article says "D n' D Greg, 2 Gregs, with an s. But in the toon, they say it without an s and write it without one until they say "4 Gregs!" I hope I didn't confuse anyone... Let me know if I totally lost everyone.
:You're right! I fixed it in the transcript. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 00:14, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== "Both my names" ==

A reference to Cheerleader and Virginia/Joy/Jennifer? Maybe? [[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]] 00:15, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:Nah, it's just a joke that he got her name completely wrong and yet somehow she's happy that he ''only'' got ''both'' her first and last names wrong. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== Spread ==

I am a football freak, and i know terms when i see them. The spread is an offense which usually consists of 3 to 5 wide recievers. To beat the spread, is to have a defense in which the spread is negated. The explanations say it is a gambling thing, which could be correct, but, it does not apply to this.
:I think the gambling definition fits the context better. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 00:45, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
::How? They're at a FOOTBALL game. I think the football definition fits a whole lot better. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:47, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:::People spread bet on football all the time. Saying "at least" beat the spread seems to imply that the mascot doesn't believe the team can win, but they should at least try to beat the spread number set by bookies. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 00:48, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Or it could mean "at least make one decent play" {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:55, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Of course. I said that I think it fits the gambling context better, meaning it fits both to a degree. It's pretty ambiguous. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 00:59, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::And i'm saying that i'm not sure that's the case. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:00, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::It's not ambiguous at all. The Growlbacks have 0 points, and the visitors have 24, presumably six seconds into the second quarter (we know it's the first half, and if it's only six seconds into the ''game'' then the home team is ''really'' in trouble (I suppose it would be possible if the Growlbacks received the kickoff three times, all three times they muffed the ball in or very near their own end zone and the visitors recovered it and scored touchdowns, and all three times they went for a two-point conversion)). Suffice it to say they're getting creamed, and at this rate they'll lose 96 to 0 or worse. The mascot would just like them to do well enough to defy the oddsmakers. A Google search for [[Google:"beat+the+spread"|"beat the spread"]] turns up far more results for gambling than an offensive formation, of which WikiAnswers gives an excellent [http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_it_mean_to_beat_the_spread explanation]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
"Beat the spread" is clearly a gambling reference. Yes, "spread" is a football term, but "beat the spread" means what It's Dot Com explained.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 04:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:The first thing I thought when he said it was gambling. I've never heard anyone ever say "beat the spread" when they're on defense. I understand the concept of the phrase, but it makes no sense. It's the ''spread'' that beats the ''defense'', not the other way around. If the defense beats the spread, then it's just a good play. [[Special:Contributions/24.165.150.118|24.165.150.118]] 12:18, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== G ==

The G on the chest of The Mascott/Greg from AP Math class is another reference to [[G]]'s. --[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 03:23, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:I think it's a reference to the team name, the Growlbacks.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 19:27, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::It's probably both. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:30, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== Escher? ==

So the ending where the gregs are drawing the comic of the girls drawing the comic of the gregs really reminds me of the famous [[Wikipedia:Drawing Hands|Drawing Hands]] lithograph by Escher. I feel like at the very least that sequence has to be referencing SOMETHING and this was the first thing that came to mind. Thoughts? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 06:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:I think if it was a reference to the Escher image, then there would be a more obvious, visual, reference. Now, seriously, that sequence was so amazing that you can't believe it's original? Give the guys some credit! ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:39, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== Open source is free software ==

@DeFender1031:
You said "that's not true though, there's more to open source than being free" when editing http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/4_Gregs

Free as in freedom. The Free Software Foundation, the GNU Project and I prefer it be called free software, so that _freedom_ is at the forefront of people's minds when they use "open source" software. Open source is a name popularized by people who didn't want to talk about the political and ethical decisions made when using free software("Open source") So, the Free Software Foundation being the ones responsible for the Free Software Movement, which is what started all free software, and lead to "open source" software. Also, GNU prefers "Linux" be called GNU/Linux. Free software such as Firefox, GIMP, Audacity, and GNU/Linux itself wouldn't exist without freedom being at the forefront of these respective company's minds. So, if FSF and GNU prefer the name "free software" over "open source" it should be called so.

So I was right to add "Though more appropriately called free software." in the Explanations section.

:There are two problems with this: a) most readers here will read that as "free as in beer" rather than "free as in freedom" and (more importantly) b) open source does not mean free. You can have proprietary software that you pay for that is also open source. Considering that it's not that relevant for the homestar runner universe, we should only give a minimal definition of the term and not go into the discussion whether open source means free or not.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:39, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== TBC Material or Fansite? ==

Was [http://tompkins.tv/ Tompkins' Hot Lady Escort Service] created by TBC or by eager fans? See, I noticed that the webpage has a link to our 4 Gregs article and thought about adding this fact to [[The Brothers Chaps' Fansite Acknowledgments]]. But I don't actually know who registered the website. Can anyone help? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:41, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:Clearly a fansite. Similar to virtualpizz. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:53, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== Custom music styles ==

Did anyone notice how when the four Gregs are being announced the instrumentals change to match each one? Like SciFi Greg had some futuristic-sounding music, D n' D Greg had what sounded like minstrel music, Open Source Greg had some digital sounds, and Japanese Culture Greg had a Japanese instrument (I don't know what it's called). Just thought it was kinda neat. I didn't want to put it because I didn't know if it would be considered important or not.
:Yes, that would be perfect information for the transcript if nowhere else. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:16, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== All my client are belong to us ==

"All my client" seems like an "all your base" reference to me, especially since open source Greg is into computers. [[User:Unbalanced|Unbalanced]] 23:45, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:I think "are belong to us" is conspicuous by its absense. Without it, all we have is "All" + possessive pronoun + singular noun, which seems too generic to be a solid reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:11, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::I beg to differ. To me, every time i see "All" + possessive pronoun + singular noun + distinctively nerdy context = "all your base". I think it's very likely a reference, though i'm not 100% certain. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:59, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:::The singular would seem to be a reference to how little business Tompkins is doing.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 04:08, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::::I kinda agree. It's too generic to be a reference, and it's more like the joke about Coach Z's dating year. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.189|132.183.138.189]] 04:10, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::You make a good point, i hadn't thought of it quite like that. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:16, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::To touch on a point you made above, I don't think there's distinctively nerdy context. Tompkins's website is for a hot-lady escort service, which isn't nerdy at all. If it were Open Source Greg's website, then the content would be different and almost certainly would be distinctively nerdy, but it's not his. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:18, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::You already got me to agree... [[Malloween Commercial|WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?!]] {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 05:44, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Well, perhaps I should have said "to touch on a point DeFender made above", since I was attempting to persuade anyone who reads this discussion, not just one person. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:00, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:::+1 think its a reference to "all your base". The ''instant'' I saw the reference in the toon I thought that, and actually jumped into this article to see if you fine folk caught it. -- [[User:Ch'marr|Ch'marr]] 18:08, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

== Lowercase I's ==

Why is there no link? I know for a FACT that there are SEVERAL instances in this toon. {{User:Neox/sig}} 02:48, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:Strong Bad's handwriting doesn't count, because that font's UPPERCASE I's have dots. All the TGS stuff is out because of it. See the lowercase i article for more info. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:00, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== Krenshar ==

In D&D, a [http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/krenshar.htm Krenshar] is a cat-like creature that is able to pull the skin off its face. This may be a reference to the mascot's mask.
:That's a good point. Regular Greg removes the cat mask from his face, like a krenshar can remove the skin from its face. I think it's worth noting. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.189|132.183.138.189]] 16:03, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== Cars ==

Is it just me, or is the background music strikingly similar to Gary Numan's "Cars?" No, it's probably not worth listing on the page, but it is an interesting coincidence, nonetheless. [[User:KatAngel|KatAngel]] 16:29, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

:I don't think so. I think that it is just the TGS theme played with another instrument.[[User:Lord-z|Lord-z]] 22:41, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
::It's nothing like the regular TGS theme. I am not familiar with "cars" so i can't have an opiniuon on that, but it's definitely not the TGS theme. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:05, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

:It has the same notes as the first bar or so of "Cars", but not the same rhythm. And the way it's played, it doesn't really seem to invoke the song, so I don't think it's noteworthy (no pun intended). I wouldn't think it a reference unless it contained more than a bar's worth of note, and actually made use of the song' signature riff.
::Well, it is the same rhythm, except the 4gregs one has two grace notes at the beginning and doesn't repeat the last note of the riff before starting it over. Other than that, it's just a series of four eighth notes in both songs. But, I put it on the talk page instead of the actual page because I agree, it's not at all noteworthy, and certainly not intentional, just, IMO, an interesting coincidence. (And as we know, coincidences don't qualify as fun facts.)

== Huzzah ==

"Huzzah" could be a reference to the, often-downloaded, freeware video game "Cave Story", where "Huzzah" is spoken by Balrog on each appearance. See the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huzzah wikipedia entry]. "Huzzah" in reference to Balrog turned into a minor Internet meme. -- [[User:Ch'marr|Ch'marr]] 18:16, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
:That's possible but not especially likely. It's just [[AHD:61/76/H0337600.html|a word]] to express triumph, memorably used by the likes of Hobbes (from ''Calvin and Hobbes'') and Niles (from ''Frasier''). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:30, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
::It's doubtful. "Huzzah!" is an interjection often used at Renaissance fairs, comic conventions, and such, as well as in Groo the Wanderer. Very likely, it's not a direct reference to anything except the Greg Brothers' geekiness.

== Menu preview ==
Look at the robot that Japanese culture greg holds. Is that Scantron? [[User:The Pony man|The Pony man]] 21:18, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
: No. Scantron's [[big white face|definitely of the square-headed persuasion]]. I have no idea ''what'' it's supposed to be, if anything (it's probably just supposed to be a generic robot) but Scantron ain't it. 'Sides, it's already been established that Scantron is Sci-Fi Greg territory. ;) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:24, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
: Oh, my apologies, I didn't catch what you were talking about before. I didn't realize the menu preview had a different robot than the one in-toon. Still, I don't think it's Scantron. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:30, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

== Wikipedia plagiarism ==

We seem to be taking our explanations on "open source", "BitTorrent" are direct quotes from Wikipedia. While I would like to correct these, I am not only unsure how to rephrase them right, but I need to leave the wiki in a few minutes, so I may as well bring this up.
:See how Wikipedia is licensed to be freely copied (as is HRWiki), I don't see much of a problem. I would agree, however, such how wholesale copying should be discouraged, but for a single line to introduce an explanation (with a link to the full article) seem to okay. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:38, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:4 Gregs

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KatAngel:

== The inside refrence no one has been waiting for!==

The toon menu description(The spin-off no one has been waiting for!)is a refrence to narrator.--[[User:Mariofan1000|Mariofan1000]] 08:11, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
"The spin-off no one was ''asking'' for" is what it says actually, but you're right, this is a reference to something, I just can't remember what.

:[[Strong Badman Characters#Scanton|The CROSSOVER no one was asking for!]] [[Special:Contributions/216.11.35.3|216.11.35.3]] 16:31, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

== Unwritten Fun Facts ==

Who's doing the Explanations, Remarks, and Real-World References? {{User:Neox/sig}} 09:41, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:Whoever has one to plug in. Duties aren't assigned, and fun facts are never "inprogress". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:48, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::I just added a RWR. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to try to go back to sleep kthxbai. Insomnia sucks. Good night! {{User:Neox/sig}} 10:06, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:Indeed, many toons ''don't'' have all three of the categories you mentioned, because there's nothing to say. It's not an automatic "this is a toon, so it '''always''' has Explanations, Trivia, Remarks, and both types of References" sort of deal. (Not saying that this toon can't have them. Just saying it's not automatic. The subcategories are added as needed.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:07, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

== 5 Gregs??? ==

Shouldn't it be noted that there's a regular Greg, making it 5 Gregs? [[User:Kumquaticus|*BOOM!*Kumquaticus*BOOM!*]] 12:39, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:He's not part of the gang, I guess. [[Special:Contributions/72.95.4.185|72.95.4.185]]

== Misspelled Japanese? ==

Regarding the Okasan remark: I dunno, I'm kinda hesitant to say a transliteration of a japanese word is misspelled. It depends on the system of romanization you use. The fact we have is kind of akin to saying "Tokyo is misspelled. It is more properly spelled Tookyoo or Toukyou" -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.171|132.183.151.171]] 17:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing. Besidies, I don't think the a with the macron is in the font. Also, it wouldn't fit over ''moms'' very well if there were two a's. --[[User:Alexie|Alexie]] 17:55, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

In either romanization, it should be spelled "okāsan" or "okaasan" not "okasan". The difference between "Tokyo" and "okāsan" is that "Tokyo" is technically an English word, just like "Japan" is an English word and not a romanization of a Japanese word. It might also be worth mentioning that he mispronounced the word. He prounouced it like it was spelled (with one 'a') instead of how "okāsan" is supposed to be pronounced; which is why that macron or second 'a' is so important. "Okasan" literally means "hill-three" or "Mr. Hill". Incidentally, "Tokyo" in Japanese would be either "Tōkyō" or "Toukyou", but not "TooKyoo". Just sayin' :P {{User:TrueTsumetai/sig}} 01:00, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:The pronunciation part has some merit, I agree. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 01:08, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== Unpluralized plurals? ==

So I remember from a while back a conversation about adding a page for unpluralized plurals... using a singular for something that would ordinarily be pluralized (like Bubs' quote "And it sold like [[DNA Evidence|'''hotcake!''']]"). The page wasn't created because there weren't three instances, but now we have Tompkins' quote "Ow! All my '''client!'''" There was a third instance way back, but now it's slipped out of my head, if anyone can recall it... {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 19:23, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:I can, it was my idea, and it's on a main page talk archive somewhere. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:25, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::[[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 23#Singularized pluralizations|Here it be.]] {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:28, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Ah yes, "the '74s was the prime of my dating [[Decemberween Short Shorts|'''year''']]" was the third example. I'd say this merits a page, although there is the issue of finding a good commando name... {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 19:30, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::::"Singular instead of plural"? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:52, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:Well, I decided to go ahead and [[Singular Instead of Plural|create it]]. It could certainly use some cleaning up though... {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 04:19, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::I could've sworn Ornament Z said '''"years"'''. {{User:Neox/sig}} 13:12, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::Try watching it again. He CLEARLY says "year". That's the whole joke that he only had one. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:53, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== Can you use this pic I made? ==
[[:Image:Sci-FiGregUhh.PNG]] {{User:Neox/sig}} 21:35, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:Use it for what? Where? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:39, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::Anything; anywhere kthxbai. {{User:Neox/sig}} 13:14, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== HAXXORED ==

Is that a real word or isn't it? {{User:Coach z's cool/sig}} 22:41, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:It's as much of a real word as any [[internet slang]] is... so it depends on your definition of "real word". Mine says "no". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::But it is not a word created by the Brothers Chaps. People use it on the internet. It means "Hacked". {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 00:08, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Ah, I see. {{User:Coach z's cool/sig}} 00:38, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== Is that what they're saying? ==

When the teen girl squad voice says "SciFi Greg, 1 Greg, D n' D Greg, 2 Greg, etc., the article says "D n' D Greg, 2 Gregs, with an s. But in the toon, they say it without an s and write it without one until they say "4 Gregs!" I hope I didn't confuse anyone... Let me know if I totally lost everyone.
:You're right! I fixed it in the transcript. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 00:14, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== "Both my names" ==

A reference to Cheerleader and Virginia/Joy/Jennifer? Maybe? [[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]] 00:15, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:Nah, it's just a joke that he got her name completely wrong and yet somehow she's happy that he ''only'' got ''both'' her first and last names wrong. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== Spread ==

I am a football freak, and i know terms when i see them. The spread is an offense which usually consists of 3 to 5 wide recievers. To beat the spread, is to have a defense in which the spread is negated. The explanations say it is a gambling thing, which could be correct, but, it does not apply to this.
:I think the gambling definition fits the context better. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 00:45, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
::How? They're at a FOOTBALL game. I think the football definition fits a whole lot better. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:47, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:::People spread bet on football all the time. Saying "at least" beat the spread seems to imply that the mascot doesn't believe the team can win, but they should at least try to beat the spread number set by bookies. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 00:48, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Or it could mean "at least make one decent play" {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:55, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Of course. I said that I think it fits the gambling context better, meaning it fits both to a degree. It's pretty ambiguous. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 00:59, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::And i'm saying that i'm not sure that's the case. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:00, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::It's not ambiguous at all. The Growlbacks have 0 points, and the visitors have 24, presumably six seconds into the second quarter (we know it's the first half, and if it's only six seconds into the ''game'' then the home team is ''really'' in trouble (I suppose it would be possible if the Growlbacks received the kickoff three times, all three times they muffed the ball in or very near their own end zone and the visitors recovered it and scored touchdowns, and all three times they went for a two-point conversion)). Suffice it to say they're getting creamed, and at this rate they'll lose 96 to 0 or worse. The mascot would just like them to do well enough to defy the oddsmakers. A Google search for [[Google:"beat+the+spread"|"beat the spread"]] turns up far more results for gambling than an offensive formation, of which WikiAnswers gives an excellent [http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_it_mean_to_beat_the_spread explanation]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
"Beat the spread" is clearly a gambling reference. Yes, "spread" is a football term, but "beat the spread" means what It's Dot Com explained.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 04:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:The first thing I thought when he said it was gambling. I've never heard anyone ever say "beat the spread" when they're on defense. I understand the concept of the phrase, but it makes no sense. It's the ''spread'' that beats the ''defense'', not the other way around. If the defense beats the spread, then it's just a good play. [[Special:Contributions/24.165.150.118|24.165.150.118]] 12:18, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== G ==

The G on the chest of The Mascott/Greg from AP Math class is another reference to [[G]]'s. --[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 03:23, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:I think it's a reference to the team name, the Growlbacks.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 19:27, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::It's probably both. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:30, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== Escher? ==

So the ending where the gregs are drawing the comic of the girls drawing the comic of the gregs really reminds me of the famous [[Wikipedia:Drawing Hands|Drawing Hands]] lithograph by Escher. I feel like at the very least that sequence has to be referencing SOMETHING and this was the first thing that came to mind. Thoughts? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 06:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:I think if it was a reference to the Escher image, then there would be a more obvious, visual, reference. Now, seriously, that sequence was so amazing that you can't believe it's original? Give the guys some credit! ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:39, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== Open source is free software ==

@DeFender1031:
You said "that's not true though, there's more to open source than being free" when editing http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/4_Gregs

Free as in freedom. The Free Software Foundation, the GNU Project and I prefer it be called free software, so that _freedom_ is at the forefront of people's minds when they use "open source" software. Open source is a name popularized by people who didn't want to talk about the political and ethical decisions made when using free software("Open source") So, the Free Software Foundation being the ones responsible for the Free Software Movement, which is what started all free software, and lead to "open source" software. Also, GNU prefers "Linux" be called GNU/Linux. Free software such as Firefox, GIMP, Audacity, and GNU/Linux itself wouldn't exist without freedom being at the forefront of these respective company's minds. So, if FSF and GNU prefer the name "free software" over "open source" it should be called so.

So I was right to add "Though more appropriately called free software." in the Explanations section.

:There are two problems with this: a) most readers here will read that as "free as in beer" rather than "free as in freedom" and (more importantly) b) open source does not mean free. You can have proprietary software that you pay for that is also open source. Considering that it's not that relevant for the homestar runner universe, we should only give a minimal definition of the term and not go into the discussion whether open source means free or not.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:39, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== TBC Material or Fansite? ==

Was [http://tompkins.tv/ Tompkins' Hot Lady Escort Service] created by TBC or by eager fans? See, I noticed that the webpage has a link to our 4 Gregs article and thought about adding this fact to [[The Brothers Chaps' Fansite Acknowledgments]]. But I don't actually know who registered the website. Can anyone help? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:41, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:Clearly a fansite. Similar to virtualpizz. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:53, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== Custom music styles ==

Did anyone notice how when the four Gregs are being announced the instrumentals change to match each one? Like SciFi Greg had some futuristic-sounding music, D n' D Greg had what sounded like minstrel music, Open Source Greg had some digital sounds, and Japanese Culture Greg had a Japanese instrument (I don't know what it's called). Just thought it was kinda neat. I didn't want to put it because I didn't know if it would be considered important or not.
:Yes, that would be perfect information for the transcript if nowhere else. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:16, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== All my client are belong to us ==

"All my client" seems like an "all your base" reference to me, especially since open source Greg is into computers. [[User:Unbalanced|Unbalanced]] 23:45, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:I think "are belong to us" is conspicuous by its absense. Without it, all we have is "All" + possessive pronoun + singular noun, which seems too generic to be a solid reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:11, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::I beg to differ. To me, every time i see "All" + possessive pronoun + singular noun + distinctively nerdy context = "all your base". I think it's very likely a reference, though i'm not 100% certain. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:59, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:::The singular would seem to be a reference to how little business Tompkins is doing.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 04:08, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::::I kinda agree. It's too generic to be a reference, and it's more like the joke about Coach Z's dating year. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.189|132.183.138.189]] 04:10, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::You make a good point, i hadn't thought of it quite like that. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:16, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::To touch on a point you made above, I don't think there's distinctively nerdy context. Tompkins's website is for a hot-lady escort service, which isn't nerdy at all. If it were Open Source Greg's website, then the content would be different and almost certainly would be distinctively nerdy, but it's not his. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:18, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::You already got me to agree... [[Malloween Commercial|WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?!]] {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 05:44, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Well, perhaps I should have said "to touch on a point DeFender made above", since I was attempting to persuade anyone who reads this discussion, not just one person. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:00, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== Lowercase I's ==

Why is there no link? I know for a FACT that there are SEVERAL instances in this toon. {{User:Neox/sig}} 02:48, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:Strong Bad's handwriting doesn't count, because that font's UPPERCASE I's have dots. All the TGS stuff is out because of it. See the lowercase i article for more info. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:00, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== Krenshar ==

In D&D, a [http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/krenshar.htm Krenshar] is a cat-like creature that is able to pull the skin off its face. This may be a reference to the mascot's mask.
:That's a good point. Regular Greg removes the cat mask from his face, like a krenshar can remove the skin from its face. I think it's worth noting. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.189|132.183.138.189]] 16:03, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== Cars ==

Is it just me, or is the background music strikingly similar to Gary Numan's "Cars?" No, it's probably not worth listing on the page, but it is an interesting coincidence, nonetheless. [[User:KatAngel|KatAngel]] 16:29, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

bike thief

2009-01-14T19:49:22Z

KatAngel: /* Explanations */ ~Grammer, guys. What would Strong Bad say?

{{sbenav|178}}
[[Image:Sbemail178 screenshot.PNG|thumb|"Hey, my bromide."]]

Strong Bad reveals his bike thieving secrets.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Pom Pom}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Crazy Go Nuts University]]/[[The Stick]], [[Basement of the Brothers Strong]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, September 10, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 3:56

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Six}}

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:'''{rapping} Letters. And words. Emails get absurd, I just gotta jump back?

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: bike thieves</div>
Hey Strong Bad, 
I'm at college and I need to keep my bike from being 
stolen. I figure if I think like a thief, I can figure out 
how to protect it. So, how would you try to steal my bike? 
Virginia 
MI
</blockquote>
''{Strong Bad reads MI as two letters}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' ''{disappointed tone}'' Oh, not smart enough for MIT, huh? Just MI? ''{clears screen}'' ''{regular voice}''Well first off, how do you know your crappy bike is even worth stealing? How many pegs you got? Mag wheels? White tires? Worthless baseball card in the spokes? If not, then you got nothing to worry about. What self-respecting bicycle thief would steal a (shudder) ten-speed? Or a (shudder, shudder) mounTAIN bike? The only thing those bikes gets you is tired. Any bike with a water bottle holder is a complete waste of bike. ''{clears screen}'' But, let's pretend you do have a cool bike. I would first go to my old thieving standby: dress up like a bush. ''{pronounces it "boosh"}''

''{Cut to the field. Strong Bad is hiding behind a short berry bush with cartoon eyes, his feet clearly visible. He shuffles over to a pink bicycle, carrying the bush with him. He picks up the bike through the bush, and starts carrying it away.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow.
''{Pull out to see Pom Pom talking on a phone. He looks away from his phone to glare at Strong Bad.}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbles}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{walking offscreen}'' Oh, I mean... Bush. Bush. Leaves. Branch. Um... Berries.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And don't forget: dressing up as a bush is also a great way to get free pizza!

''{Cut to Bubs' Concession Stand. Strong Bad walks up to the counter behind his bush costume.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Can I have some free pizza?

'''BUBS:''' Sure thing, bush!

''{Bubs pulls a pizza box from behind the counter and drops it on top of the bush. Strong Bad walks off-screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Variations on this approach—

''{Cut to the field, with just Strong Bad standing in the middle of screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' —include dressing up as a cactus,—

''{The bush is replaced by a cactus, with Strong Bad badly concealed behind it, and cartoony eyes.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' —a trashcan,—

''{The cactus is replaced by a trashcan, again with cartoony eyes.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' —or a barrel.

''{The trashcan is replaced by a wooden barrel, yet again with cartoony eyes.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Though, depending on your physique—

''{The Cheat appears next to Strong Bad's barrel.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' —you could also dress up like... a hideous pile—

''{The Cheat turns into a pile of unidentified pink goo, with tufts of hair, a crushed can, a plank of wood, a circular saw blade, and two misaligned cartoony eyes. Strong Bad inches away from the mess. Strong Mad appears on the other side of the barrel.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' —or a... textile factory?

''{Strong Mad turns into a factory building, signed "BRRLAP", with cartoony eyes near the roof. Cut back to the computer room.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So if I were you, I'd steer clear of pretty much anything with cartoon eyeholes. If that method didn't work for me, I'd go for the awkward swindle. This is especially effective on college campuses.

''{Cut to The Stick. A silhouette of a CGNU building is visible in the background. Homestar, wearing a backpack and backwards cap, is chaining up his white bike to The Stick, the chain is simply looped over the top branch. Strong Bad, sporting a ponytail, walks in, carrying a clipboard.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, brother. Hey, my bromide. You look like a cool guy who likes to progress. I was wondering if you'd be interested in signing this petition to ban roll-on...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, um, yeah, sorry, uh, I've got a class...

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...free vegan food...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ...and my roommate's like... you know...

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...fellowship...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ...so, my parents, um...

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...drum circle?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Computer lab! ''{darts off-screen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Man. so effective! I've stolen people's lunches this way... their girlfriends... puppies even!

''{Strong Bad throws away his clipboard and walks over to Homestar's bike, and starts kicking the tires. Marzipan walks in, with multicolored dreadlocks, and her own clipboard.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Hey, my bromide, wanna sign this...

'''STRONG BAD:''' Meal plan! ''{darts offscreen}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Cool, man, free bike.

''{Cut back to the computer room.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' But my all-time favorite thiefnique has got to be, the best use of black turtlenecks and suction cups ever devised: cat-burgling!

''{Cut to a featureless orange wall. Strong Bad climbs up the wall with suction cups, wearing a black turtleneck and beanie.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Almost... to the top!

''{Cut to Strong Bad's basement... Strong Bad climbs up from behind the orange couch. The bicycle seat [[Red, White, and Banana]] is on the couch, and two laser guns duct taped to the couch on either side of it. Strong Bad pulls out a spray can of "C'mon! It's Fog!" and sprays it into the air, revealing the two laser beams.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw, Ponch. Laser tech security! I'll have to employ some Chinese acrobatics!

''{Strong Bad tries to jump up, but is stuck to the couch.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh, these suction cups are stuck to the side of this couchscraper. Ah, somebody? The Cheat? Come put that bicycle seat in my mouth! Gently!

''{The lights turn on.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw, Jon! Light tech security!

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{walking in}'' Well, if you had agreed to play Cats the musical, instead of cat-burglar, maybe you wouldn't be stuck to the back of the couch again.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I would rather die.

''{Cut back to the computer room.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' That's how I'd do it, College Bike Owner. So keep away from shrubbery, don't talk to anyone with a clipboard, and avoid putting your bike on the roof of glass skyscrapers.

''{During the next part, Strong Bad types "Your bike should be totally safe if you listen to me. I am a good person that gives sound advice. Bike on, my friend, bike on!" while he says his other lines.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Secret message to bike thieves!

''{The words "SECRET MESSAGE!" flash on the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Bolt cutters, guys! Just use bolt cutters!

''{The words "BOLT CUTTERS!" flash on the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' We'll split the pawn-shop money fitty-fitty!

''{The words "FITTY FITTY!" flash on the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' See you next time!

''{[[New Paper]] comes down, printing a picture of [[The Paper]].}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Nice try, New Papes. Though that does make me feel a little better... he was so stripedy...

==Easter Eggs==
*After Strong Bad says MI, click on it to see a pennant for Mediocre Institute.
*Click on "baseball card" to see a [[Trading Cards#From bike thief|trading card]].
*At the end, click on "safe" for this:
:''{The Lappy slowly moves to the right}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, what the?
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{dressed up as a trash can, speaking in a monotone voice}'' Garbage. Garbage. Rubbish. Umm... murder weapon.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Are you supposed to be a trash can or a robot?
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ummm... ''{pulls out petition reading "The Bromide Solution"}'' you wanna sign this petition, my bromide?

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*"Mag wheels", (not to be confused with [[Wikipedia:Magnesium alloy wheels|Magnesium alloy wheels]]) are wheels on a bike that are made with larger and thicker spokes than on a typical bike. Typical mags had 5 to 6 large "spokes". The bike pictured in this episode is a bike with wheel covers. These plastic covers actually fit on the outside of a traditional spoked wheel, much like a hubcap on a car.
*"Pegs" are metal tubes affixed to a bicycle's front or rear axle, allowing the rider to balance their weight on an area other than the pedals and freeing the body of the bike for a wider range of tricks.
*A bromide is an ion of a bromine atom with a charge of -1. Such bromides as potassium bromide were once used as sedatives, leading to the once prevalent use of the word "bromide" to indicate someone or something is platitudinous and boring.
**Bromide is water soluble, so a bromide solution would be bromide in water.
*Attaching a baseball card to the spokes would simulate the sound of a motorcycle as the wheel rotates.
*"[http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=earf Earf]" is a dialectic spelling of "Earth."

===Trivia===
*Strong Bad's petition reads:
<blockquote>-PETITION- 
i do hearby sign that 
i am in full support 
of fully supporting 
all the good causes 
and casual effects of 
said causes and, as it 
were, caucuses. now, 
previously, and also 
futurely held... 
X________________</blockquote>
*Marzipan's petition reads:
<blockquote>Counter-Petition 
I, the willing signer of this 
document, betta recognize 
that Earf in trouble. Earf 
injured. Injured bad. 
 
X______________</blockquote>

*Homestar's bike is a Huffy SIGMA circa 1987.
*The summary for the [[Podstar Runner]] RSS feed reads, "Strong Bad teaches a college kid how to avoid getting their bike stolen."

=== Remarks ===
*In [[hygiene]], two emails prior, Strong Bad complained about a lack of college girls sending him email. The sender of this email, Virginia, appears to be a female college student.
*"Thiefnique" is a [[portmanteau]] of "thief" and "technique."
*"Couchscraper" is a [[portmanteau]] of "couch" and "skyscraper."
*"Brrlap" on Strong Mad's textile-mill disguise refers to [[Wikipedia:burlap|burlap]], a durable but coarse cloth made of vegetable fiber.
*Strong Bad can spray the can of fog, although his hands are stuck to the couch later.
*Homestar's trash disguise has his own eyes, whereas Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat wore disguises with a unified, cartoony eye pattern, quite distinct from their own.
*Homestar boasted in [[cliffhangers]] that he had the history and the motive to steal the Lappy.
*While Homestar is stealing the Lappy, clicking its screen will not create any ripples.
*Strong Bad's bush disguise bears a similarity to a berry-laden bush appearing in the [[Peasant's Quest]] video game.
*This is the first toon to show the exterior of a [[Crazy Go Nuts University|CGNU]] building (assuming that the tower in the background is in fact a building).
*Strong Bad claims that no self-respecting bicycle thief would steal a "mounTAIN bike." Then, dressed as the bush, he proceeds to steal Pom Pom's mountain bike.
*Assuming the couch is a standard one with fabric upholstery, Strong Bad ''couldn't'' have either climbed up or gotten stuck to the couch with suction cups.
*At the end of the [[Podstar Runner]] version of the email, the Easter egg of the Lappy slowly moving to the right starts automatically; however, it does not show Homestar Runner stealing it.

===Goofs===
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*After Strong Bad receives the pizza and turns around, the logo on the pizza box gets reversed.
*When College Strong Bad throws the clipboard into the air, and then a second time he throws it off the screen, the entire text occasionally gets reversed.
*The printed The Paper is straight and does not follow the curvature of the New Paper.
*The word "safe" can be clicked even while the monitor continues to move in the Easter egg at the end, which restarts that segment from the beginning.
*When Homestar steals the Lappy, the power cord doesn't stretch or move. Instead it stays as it is.
*In the podstar version, the audio only plays on the left speaker until after the switch back to Strong Bad's lappy after Marzipan's line.
*In the easter egg, during the cut to the wide shot, the New Paper disappears.

===Fixed Goofs===
*Strong Bad misspelled "enough" as "enogh" in the beginning of his response. This was fixed a few hours after it was released.

===Inside References===
*The pizza Bubs gives Strong Bad is [[Bubs' Old Pizza]] from [[privileges]].
*Pom Pom's costume is from [[technology]].
*The cat-burglar scene shows another instance of [[duct tape]].
*Strong Bad's cat-burgling outfit was seen before in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]] (minus the suction cups).
*The music playing as Strong Bad first appears in his bush disguise made its debut as [[Sterrance]]'s theme in [[animal]].
*The bicycle seat [[Red, White, and Banana]] first appeared in [[the chair]].
*When Strong Bad attempts to steal the bike seat off of [[the couch]], he is foiled by two [[Wikipedia:Lazer Tag|Lazer Tag]] guns. [[The Poopsmith]] previously carried one of these guns when he [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats Costumes#The Poopsmith|dressed up in Lazer Tag gear]] in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*Strong Bad's line, "I would rather [[Death|die]]," when asked to do something with someone, was first heard in [[Biz Cas Fri 1]].
*The can in The Cheat's hideous pile is the same as the can Homestar kicks in the Easter egg in "[[original]]".
* Strong Bad's intro song is to the same tune as [[Strong Sad]]'s lyrical [[rampage]].

===Real-World References===
*Strong Bad makes reference to the [[Wikipedia:Massachusetts Institute of Technology|Massachusetts Institute of Technology]].
*The [[Crazy Go Nuts University|CGNU]] building bears a strong resemblance to [[Wikipedia:Tech Tower|Tech Tower]], the main administrative building on the [[Wikipedia:Georgia Institute of Technology|Georgia Tech]] campus in downtown Atlanta, not far from where [[The Brothers Chaps]] live.
*''[[Wikipedia:Cats (musical)|Cats]]'' is a musical stage production, premiering in 1981, in which all the actors, portraying cats, perform in skin-tight costumes.
*[[Wikipedia:Ban (deodorant)|Ban]] Roll On is the name of an actual deodorant product.
*Ponch and Jon were the main characters of the television show [[Wikipedia:CHiPs|CHiPs]].
*The laser guns taped to the couch appear to be [[Wikipedia:Lazer Tag|Lazer Tag]] "StarLyte" pistols.

== DVD Version ==
{{commentary|email=true}}
{{sectionstub}}

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|178|12422}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Podstar Runner]]

Sensitive to Bees

2008-12-18T23:27:29Z

KatAngel: Listened to it three times to make sure... Strong Bad doesn't say "is fly," He says "Doot doo."

[[Image:TheBee.PNG|thumb|''I'm'' da bee!]]
== Detailed Information ==
{{Track information|album = Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits|track number = 13|length = 1 minute 54 seconds|artists = [[Marzipan]] (feat. [[Strong Bad]] and [[Homestar Runner]])|style =[[Wikipedia:Folk music|Folk]] |origin = Brand new song.}}

== Lyrics ==
'''MARZIPAN:''' Strong Bad, do you want to hear my song? 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Hi! No! 
'''MARZIPAN:''' Okay, here we go.

''{Marzipan starts playing [[Carol]]}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I said no... Ooh, that sounds gorgeous.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' I'm very sensitive to birds 
'''STRONG BAD:''' What? 
'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' I'm very sensitive to trees 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Them falling on you? 
'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' I'm very sensitive to all these things 
But I'm especially sensitive to bees 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, ''I'm'' da bee!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' Yeah, I really, really, really like bees 
'''STRONG BAD:''' I really, really think you're making this up as you go.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' Have you ever walked outside? 
And noticed that they're really pretty cute? 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing simultaneously}'' And got run over by a big truck? 
'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' They like to fly around and eat your fruit 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, fruit and cute. Good rhyme! 
'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' But it's okay, 'cause they're cute 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, ''cute'' and cute. That's even more advanced. 
'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' Yeah, it's okay, 'cause they're cute 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Cute, ''cute'', and cute. You're the poet laureate of-

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' BUZZ! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, what? 
'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' Ouch! BUZZ! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' What are you doing? 
'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' Ouch! BUZZ! BUZZ! BUZZ! Ouch! 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Stop that!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' I've heard some people say 
'''STRONG BAD:''' You should really quit playing this song. 
'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' That you can't count on a bee to pay 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh. Well, I ''will'' agree with that one. Got a good point there. 
'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' And they won't look you in the eye 
And all they want to do is fly real high. 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing simultaneously, joining in}'' Doo doo doo doo doo doot doo really high 
'''HOMESTAR:''' Hey guys!

'''MARZIPAN & STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' But ya gotta love 'em anyway! 
'''HOMESTAR:''' What are you doing? Are you guys singing a song? 
'''MARZIPAN & STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I don't care what they say anymore! 
''{Homestar joins in}'' 
'''ALL:''' ''{singing}'' 'Cause I really, really do love bees! ('''HOMESTAR:''' trees!) 
'''STRONG BAD:''' True 
'''MARZIPAN:''' All together now! 
'''HOMESTAR:''' Okay! 
'''MARZIPAN & STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Yeah, I really, really, really like bees......ah. 
'''HOMESTAR:''' ''{singing simultaneously}'' Yeah, I really, really like to play with trees! And ants!

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, don't tell anybody I sang along with you. 
'''MARZIPAN:''' Okay. 
'''HOMESTAR:''' But you can tell them I did! 
'''MARZIPAN:''' No thanks!

== Fun Facts ==
*Strong Bad never was "[[Bees|The Bee]]". Technically it was [[The Goblin]] as seen in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*Strong Bad and Homestar are in stereo, so when Strong Bad talks, his voice comes out of the left speaker, and when Homestar talks, his voice comes out the right speaker.
*Marzipan briefly shows her sensitivity to bees in [[Fall Float Parade]].
{{Template:Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits}}
[[Category: Songs]]

Litigation Jackson

2008-12-18T20:07:06Z

KatAngel: Removed a double'd period.

[[Image:Litigation Jackson.jpg|thumb|left|OBJECTION!]]

[[Image:Legal_rampage.png|thumb|195px|Rampagin' the courtroom]]

'''Litigation Jackson''' is a film that helped to sponsor the [[Decemberween]] Pageant in the 'toon [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. The tagline is "This Decemberween... The System Really Works, Jerks!" It was released into theaters on December 27th.

According to the film's poster (starring [[Matt Chapman|Matt]]), it is a joint project between the famed [[Free Country, USA]] jack-of-all-trades writer/illustrator [[Leomard Sportsinterviews|Lem Sportsinterviews]] and one of the Delabors of [[Thorax Corporation]], most likely Gent Delabor as he is the head of the company and seems to do most of the work. It was brought to you by the makers of [[Trogdor]] and the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer|Peasant's Quest movie]].

A sequel was revealed in the email "[[rampage]]," entitled "Litigation Jackson 2: Legal Rampage." The poster features Litigation Jackson holding some "Important Legal Documents", implying higher stakes than the box of plain old "Legal Documents" in the original film (see poster) with an explosion occurring in front of the [[Wikipedia:New York Supreme Court|New York Supreme Court]]. He appears to have gotten a perm between the first and second movies.

The name "Litigation Jackson" first appeared in the game [[Hairstyle Runner]], in which one of the hairstyles in the gallery is entitled "Litigation Jackson". The hairstyle features a unibrow and a goatee and sideburns that both resemble the letter J.

The parody refers to the title of the 1988 film ''[[Wikipedia:Action Jackson|Action Jackson]]''.

To "litigate" means to contest or engage in legal proceedings.

The entire series could be a modified-spin off from "Litigation Johnson", a name under the testimonies for Thorax's "PROGRAM CONGRATULATION(TM)(R)(C)" PRODUKT.
== See Also ==
*[[Rough Copy!]]

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