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2008-07-20T17:09:05Z

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== Auto Log Out? ==

I occasionally am logged out for no reason when I don't click the "log out" button. Do we have an automatic log out or something, or is there some glitch in the server? [[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]] 19:31, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe your cookies expired. Happens to me on occasion. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::Maybe. I didn't know that could happen. Which isn't that unusual. Thanks! {{User: DrPepper42/sig}} 21:14, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I find there's an inevitable period of time when I come onto the wiki and I am not automatically logged in. Happens. Log in again, be sure to to check the "always keep me logged in" and go. A few times a year ain't a problem. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:45, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm talking about moving from page to page on the wiki. I don't use "always stay logged in" because I've got a little brother who will probably get me banned. {{User:DrPepper42/sig}} 00:27, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::It might be that you're moving between [http://hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page hrwiki.org] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page www.hrwiki.org], which even though they are the same thing are treated differently by your computer. To avoid the problem, I log in on both. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:07, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::I'd consider that a glitch in the server. {{User:DrPepper42/sig}} 18:22, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Without going into too much horrible detail: {{pl|l=http://hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page hrwiki.org}} and {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page www.hrwiki.org}} are considered by your browser to be two different sites for technical reasons. This is not a trivial thing to fix. Similarly, the cookies do not translate from one site to the next for ''security'' reasons. So, no glitch, just something you gotta keep your eye on. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:08, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

== New inside ref. ==

Most of my other attempts at officializing inside references have been turned down, so I figured I'd ask here this time.

'''Marzipan dating The Cheat'''. This seems to be an omvious recurring theme, even before [[Date Nite]], what with their secret hot dates.
:See [[Marzipan and The Cheat's Relationship]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:29, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

== Heroes Con ==
[[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] will be in/near Charlotte, NC this weekend at the [http://www.heroesonline.com/heroescon.html Heroes Convention], as confirmed [http://www.telltalegames.com/community/blogs/id-347 here]. They will be at booth 532, and the con goes from Friday to Sunday. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 16:46, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

== Back from the future? ==

The weekly stuff doesn't seem to be on the site yet... {{User:Einstein runner/sig}} 01:27, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:You're right! Woah! {{User:DrPepper42/sig}} 12:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::After about 2 or more days of it being on HRWiki, it's STILL not on the main site. =/ Who knows, maybe it'll come with the next update? [[Special:Contributions/66.168.19.135|66.168.19.135]] 12:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Hmm, it's on the main page for me... try clearing your cache. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:16, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I think he means on the [[HR:{{randommainpage}}.html|main pages]] of homestarrunner.com. I doubt that The Brothers Chaps know about this problem so we will never get to see those weeklies (I can't see it either). Hopefully the next time the quotes are updated this problem won't happen again. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 14:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Right, I assumed s/he meant the h*r.com main pages, but as early as last night, I was able to view the weeklies through [[Main Page 10]]. Interestingly, though, I can't get them on this (different from last night) computer even after doing a hard refresh. Maybe I have to completely obliterate my cache... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::What operating system and browser are you useing? I'm using windows vista b/w IE 8.0. Maybe it's got something to do with that.
:::::::My cache is removed every time I close my browser (Firefox 3 btw), and I'm using Xubuntu 8.04. The games menu also has issues with flashplayer-nonfree for Linux =/ [[Special:Contributions/66.168.19.135|66.168.19.135]] 17:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Background Image ==

Okay, some questions about the greyscale field background: 
#Where is the actual file located? 
#Is there any interest in replacing it with the most up-to-date field/sky that TBC have been using?
#*If so, is there any interest in manipulating it to be a "tiling" background so that it would be seamless for use on any resolution?
#*If not, can we resize the existing one so that it's at least 1280 pixels wide? (1440 pixels wide would be my preference, actually)
Yes, most articles are large enough that the background is almost never seen, but for "young" talk pages it'd be nice for the background to get ''some'' pleasing visibility. IMHO. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 07:46, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:It's at [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/headbg-kb.jpg www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/headbg-kb.jpg], 1250 pixels wide and 24kB large. My screen is 1680 pixels wide, and I don't think I noticed the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=571751 awkward tiling] until now. I don't think we should make the image wider. It will increase the file size, and who knows when the next user comes with an even wider screen. But yeah, a version that repeats seamlessly ''would'' look better and might even reduce the file size. Having said that, I don't think it's too important to change, either ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:50, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::Also, the image right now is 523 pixels in height. I don't think many HRWiki'ers use 800x600, so its height could be increased too, by adding to the sky... and there's plenty of sky to work with. That would make the field visible on the screen for longer. And having an increased-size jpeg can't be ''that'' much bigger. But unlike any given article image, I guess it is a file that's loaded by thousands more people so maybe that little increase could be a big deal. Anyway, a tiled background wouldn't be entirely authentic to TBC's work but could still make sense. And yes, I know it's not too important to change it, but I'm always [[User:OptimisticFool#WANTED|asking]] for a challenge (of the image variety). I'm going to play around with it for a bit. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:02, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Hey! I use 800x600, and I like it! Well, that's when I'm on my computer. No idea what the resolution is on my TV when I'm on my Wii. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:::::Are you [[Dislike of Old People|60+]] or do you just have bad eyesight? =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 18:53, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm pretty sure the Wii's Internet Channel emulates an 800x600 screen as well. As for the tiling background issue, it definitely would look better if it were either widened or changed so that the tiling is seamless, though I don't think it's too important to change, as there aren't many pages on the wiki where we end up seeing the entire background image. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 18:07, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::The Widescreen setting on the Wii makes the resolution something else. Though my laptop is Hi-Definition. (which is wide) {{User:DrPepper42/sig}} 18:13, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::For your information, I prefer not to have everything on my screen about the size of a grain of sand, and I have excellent eyesight. And I do set my Wii to widescreen. {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:::::::''{kills colons}'' What does having grain of sand stuff have to do with anything? Hi-Def leaves stuff the same size, but with a better resolution. {{User:DrPepper42/sig}} 20:18, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::::''{adds another colon anyway :D}'' Actually when you set the Wii to widescreen mode, the screen width stays at 800, but the height is changed to something else.. I think it lowers it to around 450 or something. Oh, and I have my Wii set to widescreen mode and text is, for the most part, readable to me. Though whenever I use the Internet Channel on a standard-def TV, the text definitely is grain-of-sand sized. :S {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 20:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::''{kills the new colon}'' Oh. I thought he was talking about Hi-Def laptop screens. {{unsigned|DrPepper42|20:42, 21 June 2008}}
This thread is for discussing the size of our background image. Discussions about why your particular screen resolution p0wns everybody else's should go on the forum.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:I was talking about what effects my screen had on the background. It doesn't look that bad. Maybe I'm just crazy. and, I don't use the forum. {{User:DrPepper42/sig}} 23:55, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::As you can see from my awesome colon indentation, I was not replying directly to your post but was rather commenting on this discussion in general.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:23, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:Field.png|thumb|Fit to be tiled]]
Here's [[:Image:Field.png|the tile]] and [http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2048/fieldtiledtr0.png this is what it looks like tiled]. I tried grayscaling it and getting the brightness and contrast to match what we already have, but it just wasn't working for me. So these are my results in color. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:Nice work, Oppie. The tile effect is positively seamless. If someone could get that greyscaled, I think we should use it. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:24, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
::Looks good to me! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:33, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Awesome job, OptimisticFool! {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 19:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the support so far, juys. Now here's what I suggest: Replace [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/headbg-kb.jpg this 23.5k jpeg] with [http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1783/fieldgreyxd2.png this 11.2k png], thus turning [http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3047/fullbeforeiu5.png this] into [http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7641/fullafterpl8.png this]. I added some extra cloudless space at the top of the greyscaled image since it will always be completely covered up. (There are two exceptions (that I can think of) to this: (1) someone blanks a page completely, and (2) a <nowiki><pre></nowiki> goes long, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=571744 like this] (hint: scroll right).) So, yeah, the extra space allows the background to be visible for longer. Any other suggestions? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 07:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
:So, umm.. is this being considered? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 21:19, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
::Sounds good to me, but somebody with the powers would have to actually carry it out. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 22:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Here's another [http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6264/before1440x900sa7.png Before] and [http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9693/after1440x900ii6.png After], this time from my Lappy. The 1440 width shows it better than the 1280 width. And Super Martyo, what I was wondering is if the folks with powers were considering this. =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:26, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Oh! Yes! I'd read this thread a while ago and just got busy and hadn't had a chance to replace the appropriate files. Not to worry, though, it will be happening. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:54, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Cool tapes, man. =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:20, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

== Spongebob in china? ==

On youtube i found this video and matt chapman name was in it
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HIavxnUHls&feature=related]
: I know it's come up before, though I can't recall where. I believe we decided it was a coincidence. "Matt" and "Chapman" are not uncommon names. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::[[Talk:Matt_Chapman#Chinese_Spongebob.3F|This]] is where it was discussed before.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:31, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

== Accepted Spelling ==

I think the wiki ought to be consistent in its spelling. Recently the spelling of [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Weclome_Back&diff=prev&oldid=573690 donut/doughnut] reminded me of this. Another one is [[Talk:bedtime story#Gummi vs. Gummy|gummi/gummy]]. Has the broad subject of consistency in spelling been brought up before? I think it kind of goes in the category of flavor/flavour, as well. Another one that comes to mind is y'all/ya'll. So, do we or should we have a page to list our "decisions" regarding spelling, with its accompanying talk page available to reach a consensus for each of these and others? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:02, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:Such things would probably go under [[HRWiki:Manual of Style#Spelling]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:32, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
::As a general rule, we spell it like TBC do. If they have not spelled it out, or they have been inconsistent (and we always agree with their spelling in related situations) then we generally use the most accepted spelling based on what evidence we can collect. "Doughnut", IMO, trumps "donut" which is clearly a shortened, slang form. "Y'all" is the correct form; however, we use "ya'll" when TBC do. And obviously American spellings are used over British. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:37, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't agree with you on the spelling of donut.. =] ..but my purpose in bringing this up here was not to gain consensus, but rather to find out where I ought to take these questions of spelling. Since [[HRWiki:Manual of Style#Spelling]] is where the topic is addressed, I'll take it to the talk page of that article. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:05, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

== __utm.js ==

Anyone know what significance (if any) [http://web.archive.org/web/*hh_/www.homestarrunner.com/__utm.js this] has? It doesn't appear to be on the site now, but it used to be. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:12, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

:It's part of a traffic report analyzing system they may have used (or just toyed with... or maybe their ISP just put there... ). The Urchin software was bought by Google in '05. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 03:31, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

== Random Junk ==

Is it just me, or does the rando link, and R on the main pages not work more than normal. This also affects sbemail menu. I constantly can't do rando junk because of it. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
:Hmm, all three seem to be working for me... does it affect anything if you try a different web browser or a different computer? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:07, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
::It worked suddenly 4 mins after that. =/ {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
:::Great! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
::::It does this off and on though, for me at least once a day now. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
:::::What exactly isn't working? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:22, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::rando link in the bottom (horizontal) navigation, R button on all of the main pages, and sbemail menu. This happens at least once every day to me. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}

== The [Character Name Here] ==

Is there an article describing, outlining the use of "The" in character names? If so, what's its name? {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
:See [[Integral Article]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:56, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

== Timeline/Historical Dates for homestarrunner.com ==

As someone interested in reconstructing the history of how the Bros Chaps developed the Homestar universe and website, I would really like to see a feature on the wiki that would list all the content according to the date when it was first added to the Homestar website.

Most articles do currently feature dates, but to my knowledge there's no page where the cartoons and other material on the Homestar website are listed by date.

I'm not an advanced Wiki person, so I've no idea how much work would be involved, but it strikes me as a really vital resource for the wiki.
--[[User:Henebry|Henebry]] 23:23, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:[[All Toons]] lists everything by date. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 23:30, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::These have the ''updates'' for [[H*R.com updates 2000|2000 and before]], [[H*R.com updates 2001|2001]], [[H*R.com updates 2002|2002]], [[H*R.com updates 2003|2003]], [[H*R.com updates 2004|2004]], [[H*R.com updates 2005|2005]], [[H*R.com updates 2006|2006]], [[H*R.com updates 2007|2007]], and [[H*R.com updates 2008|2008]]. If you would like a briefer history, go [[Timeline of Homestar Runner|here]]. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 23:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Search Engine Addition In Firefox ==

Firefox cuts off the search engine name, and labels it as '''Homestar Runner Wiki (En''' is there any discussion or whatnot to have the name of the wiki shortened so that it fits? Because it's annoying to see that I can still add '''Homestar Runner Wiki (English)''' to the search engines list (The search box also says a new search engine can be added even though I've already added this engine.) You can always bring it up over at Mozilla.com's bugzilla or something, but I'm sure the bug will immediately be marked as invalid. I'm also sure they'll mark it as an invalid enhancement, and state that "The website can shorten its name, there's NO reason why it isn't possible for them to shorten that name."

For instance, Why not use HRWiki as a name? {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
:I don't get why it should annoy you. That being said, there's no reason for the wiki to shorten its title to something less descriptive just so you can have the full name in your search bar. If you care so much, download the source code to firefox and change the code yourself. As for the "Add Homestar Runner Wiki (English)" still being there, that happens with all search engines. Go to any site that you already have on that list, it will do the same thing. Basically, none of what you said has anything to do with us. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:42, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qX8bZASFNA I have to disagree] with the very last statement there. I'll make it harder for you to see (with this youtube video) since you apparently haven't seen it yourself. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
:::Fine, you're apparently right. It doesn't happen on other sites. It's still a result of something that has nothing to do with us. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:08, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::::I'll admit I'm at a loss to understand what the issue is. Can someone summarize in small words, please? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:11, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::::(edit conflict) <strike>The "Add Homestar Runner Wiki" thing at the bottom is there because Firefox is detecting a search box on the current page. For example, go to any random page that has a search box on it, (say, https://addons.mozilla.org/) Check that drop-down and you'll see what I mean.</strike> (Post edit conflict note: the other issue is aethetic, the name for the wiki is wider than the space Firefox displays it in). {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 02:14, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Ignore the first part, I see the problem now. I'm guessing that because the truncated string doesn't match the full string, Firefox doesn't properly detect that you've ''already'' added the search. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 02:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::Qermaq, it's an issue that the firefox search bar only allows names of up to 24 characters. He's suggesting that the wiki shorten its name so it fits, inconveniencing others but fixing his minor annoyance. GreenGuy, no, he's saying it's there even though he's added it already. He's right, this bug in FF causes this as well, but it's a FF problem, and i don't see any reason for the wiki to change to suit one person with one glitchy program. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I see the issue. It's not an issue. It's just a bug in FF3 and will likely be corrected down the road. I fail to see the negative consequence of this behavior, though. You can select "'''Homestar Runner Wiki (En'''" and type in, as I did, "sbemail50" and it works. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:22, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I can see how it would be a minor annoyance, but seriously... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:25, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::I see now. Anyway, yeah I'd say just deal with it (24 is a very small limit to impose, I wouldn't be surprised if the mozzerella coders increase that in future releases). {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 02:42, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Bringing back an old discussion ==

For a while, there was discussion of a main page redesign for our welcome project, but it sort of died in the water. I though this was a good idea, and some of the design were really nice. Any chance of bringing it back, or are we just going to leave it? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:59, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well, I think it was just one of those things we got too busy for and moved on to other things, but if you have a great idea, I'm sure we'd entertain it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:12, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::Well, the redesign was being done in conjunction with adding links to the multilingual welcome pages, which also seems to have gone fallow as well. I suppose both projects are now dormant? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 14:29, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Read-Only Forum ==

How long will it be until we can post stuff on the forum again? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 23:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:That has not yet been determined. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:01, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
::Did you at least find the cause of all the Lucy/Ricky/Billy Mays crap? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 02:41, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:::It was a little joke done by the Admin Ramrod. It was supposed to be only temporary, it was only for fun. <s>[[User:extremejon|extremejon]]</s> {{unsigned|76.113.157.206|07:03, 20 July 2008}}
::::I think you mean, it was an ill-conceived stunt gone horribly wrong that was supposed to be a joke done by the former admin ramrod. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:48, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Without getting into forum politics, Telltale Games relied on the forum to get information on their game out. - [[User:Lunar Jesters|Jesty]][[User talk:Lunar Jesters|Talk]] 17:09, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

HRWiki talk:Ledger

2007-04-12T00:00:24Z

Lunar Jesters: /**/Name > Username

== Compensating for PayPal fees ==
I've made an executive decision to start deducting PayPal surcharges from transactions. I've been floating the wiki cents on the dollar from my own pocket in order to keep those surcharges transparent, but I just started thinking about the surcharges that will acrue on $1,000 worth of donations. I'm not sure I want to float the wiki that much. :) — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 12:00, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

Okay, I just made the changes. I let everything slide prior to March 1, 2005, but from now on each donation posted on the ledger will reflect the 2.7% plus US$0.30 surcharge from PayPal. In case anyone is paying extremely close attention, there was one transaction that I had mistakenly dated March 8, 2005 that should've been dated March 7, 2005. I moved it and recalculated the running balance for each of those rows. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 12:24, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

== New Ledger ==

The old ledger was getting a bit unweildy, so I'm now using Excel to manage things. I'm using the excellent [http://area23.brightbyte.de/csv2wp.php CSV to wiki table converter] (I've installed a tweaked [http://www.hrwiki.org/ledgerconverter.php ledger converter] on our server) to transfer my spreadsheet data to the wiki. I've also started attributing names to donations again. As this list starts to get too long, I'll probably archive it off onto other pages by year or by quarter. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 11:35, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Balanced the books... ==

I sat down today to balance my PayPal account and started noticing something funny. I kept coming up owing the wiki around $50, so I dug into the numbers a little deeper and made some updates.

I did find a few duped transactions on this ledger. When people pay with eChecks, PayPal puts the transaction on two lines — one for when the check arrives and again when the check clears — and in some cases those have been more than a week apart. I wasn't paying attention and had accidentally recorded a few of those as two separate donations.

I've also gone back through some of the earlier transactions and changed the amount to reflect PayPal fees. At one point I had decided to cover those fees myself, but I decided I don't want anything fudged on this ledger. Since I had already said I would eat those fees, I threw $12 back into the coffers to compensate.

Let me know if there are any questions. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 06:06, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== TBC's Donation ==
Do you plan on added The Brothers' Chaps $250 donation to this ledger, JoeyDay? Or are you not going to record that transation? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:44, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

:I'm still deciding. I'd rather not answer this here right now. I need to figure out if I can even deposit the check first. :) — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 22:47, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

::I see that you added it. (Do you still get to keep the check with the li'l SB and HR on it?) Anyway, it seems you forgot to link to [[Matt Chapman]]. (Unless that's intentional.) Just pointing that out... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 01:28, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

:::No, I don't get to keep the check. Yes, the non-linking was intentional. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 02:03, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

== Current balance ==

Out of date with the table. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:19, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

:Fixed. Thanks. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:03, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

==$9.41==

I've noticed many donations ammount to $9.41, which is (my guess) $10.00 over PayPal, after their fees. Which got me thinking, what exactly would be the total USD donation that would need to be sent over PayPal to equal a $10.00 net donation result? (And perhaps also the gross ammount for a net of $20 or $25 and $50 increments). I think it'd be a useful bit of info for the page, but my calculating abilities are somewhat limited to figure the required ammount out. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 09:40, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
:I figured this out for $20 a couple of months ago, and applying the formula I worked out right afterward to simplify the calculation for any future donations gave me this: It would be $10.61. $20 is $20.91, $25 is $26.06, and $50 is $51.80. The basic formula to figure it out is <math>0.971x=y+.3</math> where x is what you give to PayPal and y is what's left after the fees. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 10:33, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
::Shouldn't it be <math>0.971\left(x+\mbox{arm and a leg}\right)=y+.3</math>? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 10:45, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, I wouldn't go ''that'' far. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 10:55, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
::::So, solving for ''x'', we get <math>x = \frac{y+0.3}{0.971}</math>. Plug in the amount you want to appear in the ledger as ''y'' and then do the arithmetic. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:37, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

== Table Background ==
Can somebody give the table a white background? My monobook puts all HRWiki pages in grey, and it looks weird now that the table's transparent. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 05:16, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

== Userpage links? ==

Hi, if we want to link our donation to our username, can we just go ahead and insert the link? I'm a bit wary about just jumping straight in, in case there's policies in place to prevent 'donation usurping' or other such unseemly activity. --[[User:Lor|Lor]] 11:10, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
:Hm, well, I just found the discussion on the 'Thank You' page for donators. I've put my request up there. --[[User:Lor|Lor]] 11:10, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

== Name > Username ==

I would no longer like my name tied to this wiki, and would like it to be changed to username only. Thanks. -[[User:Lunar Jesters|Jesty]][[User talk:Lunar Jesters|Talk]]

User:DorianGray/Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns

2006-07-21T13:05:31Z

Lunar Jesters: Adding fulll stop.

'''Homsar's speech patterns''' are quite unusual, and many believe that his strange way of speaking is the result of a mental disorder such as [[Wikipedia:Word salad (mental health)|word salad]], a condition in which sentence structure and grammar are intact, but individual words are picked at random and have no particular meaning. This article pulls together all of the things [[Homsar]] has said since his introduction in the [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner universe]], identifies the context of each line, and determines whether or not the line qualifies as a word salad.

== Homsar's Speech in Chronological Order (oldest first) ==

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="100%" style="border-collapse:collapse"
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! Quote !! Toon !! Context !! Comments
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| "DaAaAa, what ees it, Strong Bayaad!"
| Email [[homsar]] (2001)
| Responding to [[Strong Bad]], who had just gotten his attention.
| This is a simple greeting.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "DaAAahhh, hello, [[Marzipan|Marzypa-yun]]. It's Homsar! Dahhh, I was just calling to thank you for the flowers you sent me while I was in the hospital. Daahh, I'm feeling much better now, but I still can't feel my leeegs. Okay, bye-dee-bye."
| [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]] (Dec. 2001/Jan. 2002)
| Homsar has presumably recovered from having the Heavy Lourde dropped on him.
| Homsar speaks in basically perfect (if exaggerated) English in this message.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
|
*"I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for some candy today!"
*"YaAaAaAh, I'm the original ladies' man!"
*"If you give me a treat, make sure that it's sweet, and I'll eeeat iiiiiit..."
*"Oh no, I think this is my favorite!"
| [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] (Oct. 27, 2001)
| Homsar's intro, and then his lines after being handed Shavin' Creem, Black and Orange, and Taffy Wrench, respectively.
| His intro refers to his costume. His responses to the treats are strange, but are not completely random.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
|
*"Oh no! You shanked my Jengaship!"
*"AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hey, Tubbs! I just lost my Jengajam."
| [[Where's The Cheat?]] (Feb. 25, 2002)
| Homsar is playing Connect Four with [[Strong Sad]], then speaks to [[Bubs]] when he enters the room.
| Homsar's line does reference two games (although not Connect Four, which Strong Sad remarks on), and he almost gets Bubs' name right.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "AaAaAaAaAaAaA!!! I'm saving the best for last!"
| Email [[your friends]] (Oct. 14, 2002)
| During the montage, Strong Bad buries Homsar and covers him with scorpions.
| Legitimate phrase with no apparent connection to the situation.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| '''Homestar Runner:''' What do you have to say for yourself, little man? '''Homsar:''' ''{unusually dejected voice}'' I'm the ghost of Christmas past. '''Homestar Runner:''' Wow. You set a new standard for last place. You don't get a ding. '''Homsar:''' And also with you.
| [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] (Oct. 29, 2002)
| [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] and [[The Cheat]] walk up to Homsar, whose "pumpkin" is an eggplant with a spoon taped to it.
| Homsar's first response references ''A Christmas Carol'', while his second line is a common response in many religious prayers. Both have some connection to the scene, and neither one is a word salad.
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| "Nowowowow, this is the thrill of a lifetime."
| [[Happy T!]] (Nov. 28, 2002)
| This Easter egg was found by clicking on the bottom-right corner of the page.
| The other characters all said some variation of "Happy T!", but Homsar's line could still be construed to make some sense.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "I do what I'm told..."
| Email [[dragon]] (Jan. 13, 2003)
| Strong Bad had just told him to get out of his house.
| Coherent given the situation.
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|
*"AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hey Reggie! Is that rhinoceros around?"
*"I'm a song from the sixties."
| Email [[interview]] (Feb. 10, 2003)
| These are Homsar's actual lines in this email. The other "lines" were spoken by Strong Bad.
| Homsar's first line makes enough sense that Strong Bad, as well as the viewer, can figure out that he's referring to Strong Sad. The second line is a comedic repetition of one of Strong Bad's lines.
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| '''[[Toons]]:''' "ToOoOoOons!" '''[[Games]]:''' "James!" '''[[Characters]]:''' "[[Wikipedia:Kelsey Grammer|Kelsey Grammer]]!" '''[[Downloads]]:''' "Thank youuuuu." '''[[Store]]:''' "Legitimate business." '''[[Email]]:''' "AaAaAaAaAaAaA!"
| [[Homsar Main Page]] (Feb. 10, 2003)
| Homsar reads off the main navigation buttons in his own unique way.
| None of these really qualify as word salads, though he is more out of context on some buttons than on others.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "AAAaaaAAAaaa-I'm just in time for the murder mystery!"
| Email [[suntan]] (Jun. 16, 2003)
| A "Celebrity(?) Testimonial" of Strong Bad's Ab-Abber 2000. Homsar had used it to draw a calculator with the word "SALAd" on his shirt.
| Homsar's line does not make sense in this scene, but the sentence itself is coherent.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hi, Wonder Mike! I'm Homsar! The captain of the gravy train. Climb aboard! I've brought my best foot flowered... Pshoooo! Sure beats breaking up with me. Don't look now! I'm just a friendly reminder. AaAaAaAaAaAaA! AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Think I won the Powerball."
| [[Homsar#Character Video Transcript|Homsar's Character Video]] (Jul. 14, 2003)
| Homsar introduces himself.
| "I've brought my best foot flowered", if taken at face value, is a prime example of a word salad — the sentence makes no sense either in context or by itself, and yet is still syntactically valid. However, Homsar might have meant to say "forward" instead of "flowered", which would make the sentence make much more sense. The rest of Homsar's video is made up of coherent but disconnected sentences that each make sense by themselves. If there were such a thing as a "sentence salad", this would be it.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "I'm crying on the inside..."
| Email [[impression]] (Aug. 25, 2003)
| Homsar had just been disqualified from the Strong Sad Lookalike Contest because he looked exactly like Strong Sad.
| This line makes sense for two reasons: It's something Strong Sad would likely say, and Homsar himself may have been sad he was disqualified.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "AaAaAa! I'm open for interpretation!"
| [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] (Oct. 29, 2003)
| Homsar's secret costume, Slash from Guns N' Roses.
| Could be reinterpreted as "What do you think of my costume?"
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| "You gotta get yours, I gotta get mine."
| Email [[army]] (Jan. 5, 2004)
| Responding to Homestar's call to action for the [[Homestarmy]].
| This line makes some sense in this context — it could be construed that Homsar really is in the Homestarmy for personal reasons.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "I'm forever your girl."
| Email [[different town]] (Feb. 23, 2004)
| Spoken as [[Modestly Hot Homsar]]. It should be noted that this took place in Strong Bad's imagination.
| This phrase makes perfect sense, considering that Homsar was just transformed into a female figure.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "It's time for tasteball!"
| Email [[theme park]] (May 25, 2004)
| Giving information to Homestar Runner.
| The viewer is left wondering exactly what tasteball is, but Homestar replies with "It's tasteball already?", indicating that it was not unexpected for Homsar to say that. Tasteball could presumably be one of their duties as mascots.
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|
*"DaAaAaA! I'm a trendy tote bag!"
*"I'm not gonna lie to you, that's a healthy piece of real estate!"
*"That's a real popular song! Who wants to hear of it fifty times more?"
| Email [[for kids]] (Aug. 9, 2004)
| Homsar on his kid's show, ''[[Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?]]''
| "I'm a trendy tote bag" makes about the same amount of sense as "I'm a song from the sixties" (see above), and his line about real estate (referring to the letter G) makes a small amount of sense in context. His last line is strongly connected to the scene, in which they had just finished singing "Stave It Off, 1-2-3".
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "I blew it, man. I lose my touch."
| [[Halloween Fairstival]] (Oct. 29, 2004)
| This was a line spoken by Kumar ''Bottle Rocket'', which was Homsar's costume.
| This makes sense because he's quoting the character upon which his costume is based.
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|
*"Alms for the pudgy! Alms for the pudgy."
*"You're a real state trooper."
| [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] (Dec. 20, 2004)
| Homsar is running a donation station, and Homestar stops by, spits in the donation can, then leaves again.
| Homsar's first line is a take on "Alms for the poor", a common greeting for beggars, panhandlers, and donation takers. The second line is an odd way of saying "thanks". Both make sense.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "I'm the human wedgie."
| Email [[origins]] (Jan. 31, 2005)
| Homsar was tied up with Marzipan as a prank.
| This line seems to indicate that Homsar is aware of his predicament, but it doesn't really relate all that well. However, "The Human (noun)" is a pretty common way to describe one's self performing the function of an inanimate object - for example, "The Human Cannonball".
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "Caramel corn for president, please."
| Email [[rampage]] (Apr. 11, 2005)
| Homsar gives "praise" to Strong Sad at his Poetry Slam.
| As praise, this sentence makes little sense. On its own, it also doesn't make much sense, though it is fairly close to "Kernel/Colonel Corn", which is a common joke. It may be a stretch to call this a word salad.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "I'm just me, can't you see? I'm just a silly little bumblebee."
| Email [[record book]] (Jul. 25, 2005)
| Coach Z sang the same thing moments before. Both were aiming for a record of some sort.
| Homsar is simply copying Coach Z in this scene.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "Location, location, location!"
| [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] (Nov. 1, 2005)
| Homsar dresses up as Tingle from the Legend of Zelda series. He says this after Homestar rejects his "choices".
| Homsar's quote here is a common phrase used in real estate (the three most important things). It does not make sense in this context, but it does not seem to meet the criteria of a word salad.
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| "Let's sing a song of Pennzoil!"
| [[Fall Float Parade]] (Nov. 21, 2005)
| Homsar and a clone of himself drive through the parade.
| Could be construed as a product endorsement. Pennzoil has sponsored many such parades in the real world.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "I'm a little light in the leftovers!"
| [[Weclome Back]] (Jul. 3, 2006)
| Homsar says this while standing on a merchandise table.
| Homsar takes a common phrase and substitutes a random word — something he does fairly often. This sentence could be construed to mean "I don't have much leftover stuff", or "I'm not very smart".
|}

== Analysis and Summary ==

As shown here, there are logical arguments for almost all of Homsar's phrases. Most are somehow connected to the scene he's in, though not all of them, and only one sentence can be firmly identified as a word salad (and even then, there are ways to make it make sense). It seems that Homsar simply has an odd and somewhat indirect way of communicating with others.

There is a pattern that appears during this analysis, however: In almost every case, if there's a strong reason for Homsar to communicate a particular concept, he'll do it unerringly — one can always tell what he means. It is when he doesn't have a particularly strong reason to communicate that his speech becomes more random. For example, if he has a request ("Is that rhinoceros around?", "That's a real popular song! Who wants to hear of it fifty times more?"), his sentence relates quite clearly to the scene, and is itself perfectly valid, even if there was a much more direct way of saying it. But in his character video, his sentences are almost completely disconnected from one another, and in [[suntan]] and [[theme park]], he had no particular reason to send a message, so he seemed to just pull a random sentence out of thin air, perhaps just so he could say something.

It seems clear that while Homsar doesn't have a strong grasp on reality, he is pretty coherent most of the time, and he can relate to other characters and his surroundings when he needs to. Looking at the definition of "word salad" as given by Wikipedia, it does not appear that Homsar suffers from this disorder — at least, not much.

[[Category:Research]]

Lookin at a Thing in a Bag

2006-07-21T02:17:58Z

Lunar Jesters: /* Transcript */ Standardizing the end.

{{toonnav|Shorts|whatsinthebag|Arcade Game|Ballad of The Sneak}}
[[Image:thinginabag.png|200px|thumb|"Just lookin' at a thing in a bag..."]]

Strong Bad and the gang find a new way to get free drinks.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Bubs}}

'''Places:''' [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[The Stick]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]

'''Date: ''' April 8, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 3:50

'''Page Title: ''' T-TV, TV Show!

== Transcript ==
''{Strong Bad, The Cheat, and Strong Mad are all being lazy around the couch while the TV goes "T-TV, TV Show, watch the TV Show"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat The Cheat The Cheat The CheatTheCheatTheCheatTheCheatTheCheatTheCheatTheCheatTheCheatTheCheat! Get me a drink!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey Strong Mad! Get... get me a drink!

'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{raises his fist from behind the couch}'' MORE LIKE, YOU GET ME A DRINK!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sits up, yells over the back of the couch}'' Hey! Don't sass back with me! ''{returns to his original position}'' Augh. We need to figure out how to get some drinks...like...without having to actually get some drinks!

''{The Cheat leaps up and makes excited noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ooh! The man with the plan!

''{Wipe to the stick. Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat are all looking in some brown paper bags. Homestar walks up to them.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey guys! Whatja doin?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, just lookin' at a thing in a bag.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh cool! Can I see?

'''STRONG BAD:''' No. ''{closes his bag}'' It's for me. And The Cheat. ''{The Cheat closes his bag}'' And Strong Mad to look at. ''{Strong Mad closes his bag}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh. I'm not any of those.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yes sir!

''{Homestar backs up in response to The Cheat, and the three guys stand there looking in the bags for a while as Homestar looks on.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Lookin' at a thing in a bag!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey Homestar! Whatcha doin'? Oh, you know, hanging out with the guys. Hey guys, this is the life, right?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Sure is, man! Lookin' at a thing in a bag...drinkin' drinks...oh! Oh yeah. Homestar! Why don't you go get us cool guys some drinks?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Okay, cool guy!

''{He runs off toward Bubs' concession stand. While he is running, the same music from the TV plays in the background. He gets there and Bubs is dancing while saying "Checkitout!" Homestar starts dancing along.}''

'''BUBS:''' Checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whoah! Check it out!

'''BUBS:''' What can I get for ya?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Umm...four drinks for four cool guys!

'''BUBS:''' You mean for you, Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah! How did you know that?

'''BUBS:''' ''{quickly looks left, and then right}'' Oh, I don't know nothin' about nothin'!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah but how did you—

'''BUBS:''' ''{leans in}'' Nothin'!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' But that's weird that you—

'''BUBS:''' ''{leans in closer}'' Nothin'!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ...Okay, you're weird.

'''BUBS:''' So what kind you want?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{pops to the right, then back to his normal position while talking}'' Um, how about two reds, a blue, and an orange.

'''BUBS:''' Comin' right up! ''{he starts making the drinks}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' So Bubs...have you seen that thing in a bag?

'''BUBS:''' Oh yeah! It's freakin awesome!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, right. Me too. Yeah, I think so...that it is...too.

'''BUBS:''' ''{giving him the drinks}'' Here you go!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thanks, Bubsy! ''{starts walking away, then turns back}'' One more time!

''{they both start dancing again}''

'''BUBS:''' Checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout checkitout...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thanks, Bubsy!

''{Homestar walks off. Cut back to the stick, where the trio are still lookin' at a thing in the bags.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Appears that I'm still looking at this thing in a bag...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Drinks, cool guys!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Just put 'em down right there!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Check!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now, leave.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Check! ''{he leaves}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Wow, it worked! Free drinks! Good thinking, The Cheat! Lookin' at a thing in a bag. I am truly the greatest guy.

''{Bubs walks on}''

'''BUBS:''' Did the plan work?

'''STRONG MAD:''' LIKE A CHARM!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, drink up! Thanks for donating these drinks to our cause!

''{Homestar walks back in}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, I forgot my blue dri—SWEET MOTHER OF MYSTERY! What's going on here?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Umm...drinkin' drinks at the stick.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' But what about looking at a thing in some bags?

'''STRONG BAD:''' It escaped. Into the mountains.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Aw, shucks. I never got to see it!

'''BUBS:''' I thought you said you had!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I lied. I was trying to be a cool guy.

'''BUBS:''' Liar!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh well.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{peremptory The Cheat noises}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Of course! ''{he does a flip}''

'''BUBS:''' Nice trick, LIAR!

''{Homestar picks up one of the bags and starts looking in it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh wow! Cool!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Um, that bag's empty, Homestar.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Super cool!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, there's nothing in it.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' This is freakin' awesome!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Augh! ''{Bubs, Strong Mad, and The Cheat walk away}'' Almost makes the free drinks not worth it. ''{he walks away too}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh yeah! Lookin' at a thing in a bag! I mean...I think...I'm a cool guy. ''{Looks around, then sticks the bag on his head}''

''{Cut to black with the words "The End" on the screen. Bubs can be heard repeating "the end" over and over like Strong Bad's "The Cheat" at the beginning of the toon.}''

== Fun Facts ==
=== Trivia ===
* Bubs' little "Checkitout" song was inspired by a street seller [[The Brothers Chaps|the Brothers Chaps]] saw during a trip to New York City.
* The link on the toons page to Looking at a Thing in a Bag used to not work, but it was fixed a while ago.
*The sound that The Cheat makes when he tells Homestar to go away would be the same sound he makes in [[crazy cartoon]] before he shows Strong Bad his new animation.
*This cartoon is the first instance of Bubs stealing from his own stand. He later steals three cans of [[Paint|yella paint]] and some [[Homestar's Shades|cool shades]] for Homestar in [[Cool Things]].

=== Remarks ===
*This "short" is actually longer than four of the "full-length" toons, perhaps due to its premiere as a [[Strong_Bad_Email#Not_Quite_Strong_Bad_Emails|"not quite Strong Bad Email"]].

=== Goofs ===
[[Image:Stickgoof.PNG|200px|thumb|The Stick is wrong.]]
*When Homestar puts the bag on his head, the propeller on his cap disappears.
*The bag in front of Strong Mad disappears after Homestar looks in the empty bag.
*The shadow of The Stick is backwards during the entire short.
*When the scene changes from the Strongs' basement to the Stick, the Stick is in the wrong place for a few frames.

=== Inside References ===
*Strong Bad's line "the greatest guy" is a reference to the [[TV Time Toons Menu]] cover, which reads "Strong Bad- the last great guy?"
*Homestar running to Bubs' sillouhetted is a reference to [[Old Intro 2]].

=== Fast Forward ===
*The "Checkitout" animation is used at the [[Store]] at the page bottom.
*The scene where Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat are laying around the couch would later be seen as a drawing in [[mascot]].

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]], [[Ryan Sterritt]])

'''MIKE:''' So this is a short, but it's pretty long.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, it's pretty much a full featured cartoon Mike. We've got Ryan Sterritt with us here in the broadcasting booth.

'''RYAN:''' I'm right here.

'''MIKE:''' He's gonna offer some insight, some criticism, some unique perspectives on this cartoon.

'''RYAN:''' The color commentary if you will.

'''MIKE:''' Matt and I will do the play by play. So The Cheat is laying on the couch and so is Strong Bad. It looks like Strong Mad might be, uh, laying down behind the couch.

'''MATT:''' The T TV Show song in the background is me and my friend Rene.

''{a deep voice}'' TV Show

'''MATT:''' Who you can also see on this DVD playing the [[Jhonka]] in the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]], isn't that right listen.

''{deep voice again}'' Watch the TV Show

'''MIKE:''' That's great, he does a great job there.

'''MATT:''' Words from Ryan.

''{long pause}''

'''MIKE:''' Go Ryan, go!

'''RYAN:''' Oh. When ''I'' looked in the bag guys, I saw a lot.

'''MIKE AND MATT:''' Yeah?

'''RYAN:''' I got insight.

'''MIKE:''' We love the silhouette Matt. We lo- I love the silhouette.

'''MATT:''' Where did we learn that from, from Sunday comics?

'''MIKE:''' Yep, from Dennis the Menace. The third frame of Dennis the Menace.

'''MATT:''' Yep.

'''MIKE:''' Old Hank Ketcham. ''{short pause}'' Homestar's voice is a little different in this one.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah I think both Homestar and Bubs are both a little off in this cartoon. Were you sick, or was it, were you just off- off your game...

'''MATT:''' Uh, I jus-, I made a conscious decision to make them a little different I think, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' ''{amused}'' Really.

'''MATT:''' Yeah

'''MIKE:''' Interesting.

'''MATT:''' As a pr- as a consummate professional

''{Mike laughs}''

'''RYAN:''' Hey Mike

'''MATT:''' Tell them the story about that.

'''MIKE:''' Aah, it's the checkitout checkitout. I was in New York and there was some guy hawking, watches or something on the street saying "checkitoutcheckitoutcheckitout", we came by the same place about three hours later and he was still saying "checkitoutcheckitoutcheckitout".

'''RYAN:''' It's true

'''MIKE:''' So if you're a street vendor in New York watch what you say, 'cause I'm gonna put it in the cartoon.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, and if you're Ryan, don't say anything on this commentary track.

''{they laugh}''

'''RYAN:''' Was he really dancing... when he was, sellin' his stuff?

'''MIKE:''' Uh, no, he wasn't dancing, he wasn't doing the uh, arm motion that Bubs was doing. ''{pause}'' But I was doing the little dance that Homestar did. Yeah. On my way by.

'''MATT:''' Those drinks.

'''MIKE:''' I'd like to have a sip of that blue. That blue juice.

'''MATT:''' Those do not look fit for human consumption.

'''RYAN:''' It looks like...

'''MIKE:''' There's always those cleaners, like, household cleaners now they make in those really bright, really delicious colors, that just seems extremely irresponsible

'''MATT:''' Yeah the new, the new nutrient of orange, the new orange, essence of orange.

'''MIKE:''' Well there's purple ones too, like, if I was a kid, that would...

'''MATT:''' Juice!

'''MIKE:''' Yeah

'''MATT:''' It spells juice.

'''MIKE:''' This party is going to be off the chain!

''{they laugh, then pause}''

'''MATT:''' This is a cockamamie scheme ''{they chuckle}'' just to get drinks.

'''MIKE:''' It's all a big conspiracy.

'''MATT:''' I don't know if I can even unravel what exactly their plan was.

'''MIKE:''' Bubs was a double agent, involved somehow.

''{pause}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah, Homestar definitely sounds more, he sounds more at ease. Closer to my normal voice then usual I think

''{pause, Homestar does his flip.}''

'''MATT:''' This thing, another part of the weird conspiracy. Are we led to believe that The Cheat can just-

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}''The Force can just make him
''{overlapping}'' Yeah that he can just be commanded

'''MATT:''' ''{quickly}'' Do a flip!

'''MIKE:''' ''{whining}'' OK, I'll do it, I'm sorry.

'''MATT:''' I remember uh, hearing a lot of people sort of were a little depressed by this one at the end, where Homestar was not only dumb like he usually is but it was, kinda realized that he was dumb...put it.

'''MATT:''' Up, hrt, uch, ut-

'''MIKE:''' The end!

'''MATT:''' Ut!

'''MIKE:''' Go!

== External Links ==
*[[HR:whatsinthebag.html|watch "Thing in a Bag"]]
*[[HR:whatsinthebag2.swf|view the Flash file for "Thing in a Bag"]]
[[Category:Shorts]][[Category:Not Quite Strong Bad Emails]][[Category:DVD Commentary]]

Talk:Main Page

2006-04-04T10:47:48Z

Lunar Jesters: /* WTT Theme? */

{{Main Page Talk}}

== Everyperson and cheat go to www.gamefaqs.com now. ==

After the pank page, at the main page there a poll of the day: This weeks one was gibberish until i found this:

Poll of the Day ? Snakes on a Plane 0.999~ = 1 You Bought An N-Gage, Didn't You? All Your Base Are Belong To Us YOUR HEAD A SPLODE LUEshi O RLY? YA RLY!

Ps: I'm using Mozila firefox, so it doesn't turn out the same, but go to it now!!?

PPS: Sorry if i yell or demand from all of you guys and the cheats.

Nikolce Kocovski 06:01, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

:Yeah, the poll of the day's probably over by now. I did notice it though, a nice addition to "sightings". (I voted for "YOUR HEAD A SPLODE") ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 08:54, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

::I voted for LUEshi, of course. It's my duty. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 14:48, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

:::What does that *mean*, anyhow? -[[User:YK|YK]] 21:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
::::See [[Wikipedia:GameFAQs message boards#LUE|LUE]] and [[Wikipedia:Yoshi|Yoshi]], then see [[Wikipedia:LUEshi|LUEshi]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 21:37, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::Well, the weirdest stuff becomes popular, I guess... Thanks for clearing that up. -<strike>Y2K</strike> [[User:YK|YK]] 04:28, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

== File Download? ==

Whenever I click the edit tab at the top of any page, it comes up with a window asking me if I want to save a file. The file is "index.php". I always click "Cancel" to be on the safe side but that means I can't edit. Strangely, it haven't got this problem before and it doesn't appear if I try to edit anonymously. Also, I can edit without getting this window if I edit a section, revert a page or start a new comment (like what I am doing now). It's only if I click on the edit tab at the top. Does this happen to anyone else and is the file OK to save? Please help because I can't edit efficently! {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:33, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:"Good news, everyone!" "I think I has the soloution!" OK, enough quotes. The main thing is, I don't have the File Download problem anymore! I think because of yesterday's April Fool's prank, my preferences got messed up somehow. You see, I had the "Use external editor by default" option checked which really meant "Download files onto my computer so they can be edited in a text editing program". By unchecking this option, it doesn't try to save any files so there's no more problems! "Thanks for your help, you old broom stick!" {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:43, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

== HA HA, I knew it! ==
Man, that was funny! NOT! No hard feelings, though.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 16:48, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:I actually enjoyed the prank. It's just that when people pretending to be other people say it's real that it gets annoying.—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 17:28, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
::Bitterly hinting at me does ''not'' change anything, WeakSquareWalkGood. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:38, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Not just you; there were others. I'm just too lazy to browse the archives.—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 23:23, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

== WikiTikiTavi & server load ==

Is WikiTikiTavi really easier on a single server than MediaWiki, or was that a joke as well? [[User:Jecowa|Jecowa]] 16:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

*Probably, considering that WTT is a less powerful engine, but it is pretty unlikely that there would be a need to switch softwares. The pages may have been less because there was less formatting, but images seem to me to be the most demanding. {{User:Dylnuge/sig}} 17:09, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

::All that stuff about 'Tavi being better for our setup was made up. In fact, it was purposely exaggerated a bit so that people would realize it was a joke. 'Tavi wouldn't stand a chance running our wiki, which is why we switched away from it in the first place. Happy April Fool's! — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:17, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

:::I really enjoyed the prank until gullible people started yelling that it was happening and switching sigs. Now I'm almost afraid of what's up y'all's sleeves for next year! =P —[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 02:15, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

== Format ==

Come on, guys! That Tavi prank was kind of in poor taste. You really had me convinced, though. I'll give you that. Could you knid of avoid doing that? It had me seriously concerned.--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 18:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

:Eh, I thought it was really funny. I was serious when I said I was happy to use the WTT software, though. Not only was it a prank, but it was a special treat for people who didn't get to use it/a source of nostalga for older users. I'm looking forward to seeing how they top it next year. --{{User:acekirby13/sig}} 18:50, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
By the way, for those who are wondering, there's already been a ''lot'' of conversation today that's been [[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 11|archived]]. I don't want to rehash any of that, but I do want to seize the opportunity to get preachy as usual. This whole thing had ''me'' "seriously concerned," for a number of reasons.
#A number of people knew, or were fairly sure, that it was a joke, but were very angry anyway and talked about crying for hours, leaving forever, or doing unspecified things with machine guns. I'm concerned about these people senses of humor. In particular it was called "cruel" more than once. People spoke as though we'd called a transportation strike in NYC, instead of simply changed the appearance (not even the functionality!) of a reference website about an Internet cartoon. If losing the soft blues and reds of the HRWiki really caused you substantial pain and suffering, then maybe the wiki is a ''little'' too important in your life!
#A number of other people decided it was for real, and reacted even more violently. Now, in their defense, it's kind of understandable that a change that huge, enacted with ''no'' warning or discussion, would raise some ruckus (see the next point: ''that's why it wouldn't happen!''). But I'm concerned about this demographic, too, and their ability to handle change. What if this ''had'' been real? I was really saddened to see that so many people were ready to simply throw in the towel and walk away, or used their departure as threats. While it's safe to say that this particular change will never happen around here, Change, in general, happens. Relationships break up. Parents remarry. You get a new boss. You get in a car wreck. If you can't handle your wiki changing color, how are you going to roll with ''those'' punches?
#Finally, for both groups, a word of stern comfort. At one point, JoeyDay [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=next&oldid=298224 said] that the sysops had been discussing the change for a long time in [[HRWiki:Da Basement|Da Basement]], and that it had been archived by now. A lot of people did a lot of tricks with code and other techie methods of trying to prove or disprove that it was a hoax, but ''all it really took was following up on his claim.'' There was no discussion there, archived or otherwise. And that brings me to the heart of today's sermon. '''This kind of change wouldn't happen without a lot of discussion and wiki consensus.''' Remember? That's how things are done around here. We vote on stuff. We talk about it incessantly for weeks. The wiki is not "run" by sysops or admins in the sense that they randomly decide, in secret, to do something and then put it in place overnight. (Um... hehe... with the exception of this once.) ''This'' concerns me, that people would seriously think a change like that that affected everyone would be enacted without discussion, warning, input, or participation. I would hope people trust the sysops ''not'' to pull something like that, or, if they did, would stand up to them and supportively, constructively, but courageously tell them it's not right.
#In conclusion:
#Perspective is good;
#Change is inevitable (except from a vending machine);
#Give the wiki more credit;
#Investigate explanations; and
#When in doubt... '''chill.''' (If we were steering a [[Nuclear Class Submarine "Soccermom"|Nuclear Class Submarine]], a moments' hesitation or reflection and a relaxed attitude would be deadly. ''We're not.'')
#This concludes How To Make April Fool's Educational in Ten Easy Steps. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:57, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

:For the record, I trusted the sysops completely. I think that that's a sign of how truly good you guys were. But I still can't see why there was so many people trying to prove it wrong. I heard countless people (you know who you are) trying to prove to me that it was a prank. I ''cannot believe'' that you thought there would be ''any'' benefit in ruining the prank for everyone. Why? Why did you think it was so imperative to make sure people knew and the sysop's trick was ruined? Because even if I knew, at least I would keep a secret better. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:56, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
::Oh, and for once, I actually got preachy before Abdi. It just got deleted by Dot com. Yay! — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:57, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:::The difference here, of course, is that AbdiViklas has the wisdom and authority to be preachy. When he speaks, you should listen. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:56, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
::::And I have. The thing is, though, is whether or not I had the wisdom, at least there was meaning. It wasn't mistaking this place as a soapbox as you so "kindly" put it. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:16, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::There were ''two'' criteria listed above, not just one. Wisdom was just the first of the two. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:49, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

==Yet Another Prank-Related Topic==

I knew it had to be a prank, I'm no wiki expert but I know enough to know that Tavi couldn't possibly work. Good acting job, though! {{User:Granola/sig}} 22:01, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

:I knew it was a joke because the Captcha extension I designed was still working properly on the site. n0dalus

<big><big>Not Another Prank-Related Topic</big></big>
----
I knew it was a prank because, well... I saw it happen first hand. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:19, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

:I knew it was a prank after I viewed the source code that showed "tavistyle.css," saw that [[Special:Version]] still said they were using MediaWiki, saw that all of the article names still had spaces/underscores in them (something distinctly ''not'' a feature of WikkiTikkiTavi without extensive custom modification--which they couldn't have done in a day), noticed that the "switch" was made arbitrarily in one day with no forewarning, and after all the other obvious giveaways (like when they started making up crap like "X32 caching," which I don't believe is actually real). -- {{User:Soapergem/sig}} 07:53, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
::I knew it was a prank because it wasn't how the admins usually behaved. They'd get all our approval, or at least tell of it first, and would try to format it to be more user-friendly and familiar before the switch, not months later. But I went along with it anyway to make it more confusing. I qualify as an "admin", right? >.> - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:01, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

:::I was too lazy to dig into the code to find out. See, doing that much work would defeat the original purpose of my coming to hrwiki.org (updates column is better than the "Whats New" button on H*R.com) - being too lazy to dig around and find out any H*R stuff I want to know for myself. --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 14:14, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

::::I knew it was just an April Fool's prank when I saw [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:whatsnew&diff=prev&oldid=298514 this edit]. I tried to add it to this page but Lapper deleted it! "Next episode, Lapper! Next episooooode!" {{User:The Chort/sig}} 14:18, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::If I didn't already know about it beforehand, my first clues would probably be from the fact that all the pages (other than the main page) were all identical, and given how much pain it was (or at least seemed to be from looking at the history) to convert from 'tavi to MediaWiki in the first place. Then there's the fact that all the special pages, apart from existing at all for some of them, looked identical to before (watchlist, history, edit, etc, etc)... at that point I'd probably check things like the source code, [[Special:Specialpages]] and [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]] to check it was really just MediaWiki. Then I'd laugh and join in the fun. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:23, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

=== WTT Theme? ===
Is there any chance that the prank theme will be made into an actual wiki-theme everyone else will use? It looked kind of cool. (I know the main page was changed to support it, but still.) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 17:24, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

:[[User:It's dot com|Dot com]] was planning on doing that, yes. Watch for it in the next while most likely. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:26, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Great theme! But I did notice there's no link to the Fanstuff on the WTT skin. Could this possibly be fixed? -[[User:Lunar Jesters|Jesty]][[User talk:Lunar Jesters|Talk]] 10:47, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

== Probably Another Prank-Related Topic - Underlying community problem? ==

Now, I may not be the king of enlightened observations, but a pretty good general rule of life is: "'''If your Wiki nearly blows itself up over a simple April Fool's prank, there may be some underlying problems in the community.'''" Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll just go back to my little corner of the Wiki and hide again. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:Yeah, I think you meant, "If your users blow themselves up over a simple prank, then they need to take a look in the mirror and ask themselves why they're freaking out over nothing." I could also make several generalizations about those who went bonkers, but I believe I'll postpone... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:47, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
::I think we may be thinking on the same wavelength when it comes to the generalizations, here. Either way, I did tend to mean the major "user gap" here, due to the NSMC newuser lock. We lost influx for the month that the lock was in place, then all came in a burst, having to learn the ropes at the same time. We've kind of been overwhelmed since. For visual reference:
<pre>
Kooky's "User gap" diagram of doom!

Ban lifted, new user influx**
/
NSMC /
----- /
--/ \ |
\ |
| |
| User gap* /
\____________/

*No new users, current users gain expertise and influence,
no vandalism, "Era of Good Feelings". This time period will
become the 'user gap'.
**Sudden, large, influx of new users require attention, many
don't receive proper instruction, become spammers and minor
vandals. New users become separated from previous users due
to the gap.
</pre>
::Just kind of a quick mockup, you get the picture. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:I love that graph. It reminds me of MS-DOS for some reason. :D [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

:: I think the graph realy shows...something. I was around as a user during the User gap but I didn't learn any thing. {{User:pieinbubsface/sig}} 02:29, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:::Heh, nice little graph you got there, pretty accurate, if you ask me. I like the term "Era of Good Feelings". {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:35, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

::::The term "Era of Good Feelings" seems to me designed to alienate and offend new users like me who are genuinely trying to be useful and intelligent contributors to the community. But that's just me. {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:18, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

::::I don't know; I'm not doubting your graph so much as the idea that it's connected to Saturday's ruckus. Most of the people making the most noise were major users (as opposed to occasional ones). And actually I'm not all that convinced of the graph now that you mention it; I predate NSMC, and when I joined there were a number of prominent users and minor users both who dropped off the radar since ([[User:Thesmokingmonkey|Thesmokingmonkey]] comes to mind). And back then there were both kinds of users joining too, and the occasional spammer and/or minor vandal. No, I think the only difference is we're seeing the exponential growth in popularity of the wiki, so we simply have ''more'' of everything now than we did a year ago. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:28, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Main Page 18

2006-03-21T23:13:12Z

Lunar Jesters: /* Fun Facts */ Updating for 23.

{{mainnav|18|17|19}}
[[Image:Main18.PNG|220px|thumb|"Eh! Steve!"]]

A [[Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]] inspired main page, from [[crazy cartoon]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, [[The Worm]], [[Sherlock]], [[Keyboard Strong Bad]], {{Film|Eh! Steve}}, [[The Wheelchair]]

'''Place:''' [[Sweet Cuppin' Cakes Land]]

'''Date:''' May 26, 2003

'''Icon:''' Eh! Steve

'''Page title:''' "Sweet Cuppin Cakes"

==Button Effects==
*'''[[Toons Menu|Toons]]''' - The floor flashes a bunch of different colors and the theme music plays.
*'''[[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games]]''' - The Worm pokes its head out of its hole. Sherlock almost falls on it but it moves out of the way and goes back in its hole. Sherlock mumbles, then leaves.
*'''[[Character Videos|Characters]]''' - Keyboard Strong Bad comes out and plays a keyboard rhythm.
*'''[[Downloads]]''' - Eh! Steve comes up, looks back and forth, and leaves. Scroll again, and he'll come back and belt out his catch phrase, "EH! STEVE!"
*'''[[Store]]''' - The background pulls back to reveal the page's source coding.
*'''[[Email]]''' - The Wheelchair appears in the background and says, "I know you're out there somewhere, Eh! Steve. I'll blast you 'til tomorrow nooooooon!" before leaving.

== Fun Facts ==
*Strong Bad's head is a [http://www.vintagesynth.com/casio/vl1.shtml Casio VL-1]. It plays the demo track, which is most famous for its use in the song "Da Da Da" by Trio.
*The HTML code shown when you drag your mouse over "Store" used to be the HTML code on the page, before the navigation bar was Flash.
*The sound that plays when you mouse over "Store" plays backwards when you take the mouse off it.
*If you right-click and check 'play', the theme music will play until you scroll over either "Toons" or "E-Mail".
*This is one of only four main pages to have Homestar in his regular outfit, size, and style; and of those, this one is the only one where nothing special happens with him; he merely stands at the front and says the various words.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:main18.html|go to Main Page 18]]
*[[HR:main18.swf|view the Flash file for Main Page 18]]
{{Main Page}}

[[Category:Main Pages]][[Category: Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]]

StrongBadZone

2006-02-23T01:17:56Z

Lunar Jesters: /* Glitches */ Sorrym but Flash goofs are not noteworthy.

[[Image:StrongBadZone.PNG|thumb|220px|"YOUR HEAD A SPLODE!"]]
[[Image:strongbadzonebox.PNG|thumb|220px|"BACK OFF BABY"]]
'''StrongBadZone''' is a vector graphics game that plays similarly to the [http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=4333 Diamonds 3D] game for the [[Wikipedia:Personal computer|PC]] and Mac. You are a spikey-headed cyber-shield guy (with a cyber-shield) trying to block "devastating 3D attacks" that come flipping toward you. If you hit them, they bounce back. The object of the game is to try to hit {{Film|Vector Strong Bad}}'s head until it disappears. The game's graphical style appears to be a reference to Nintendo's ill-fated 3D system, the [[Wikipedia:Virtual_Boy|Virtual Boy]]. The graphics of the console were well-known for solely consisting of the colors red and black, much like those in StrongBadZone. In particular, the game stylistically resembles the Virtual Boy vector game [http://www.virtual-boy.org/redalarm.htm Red Alarm], which at one point also features a large face that must be destroyed. StrongBadZone first appeared as a joke in the [[Strong Bad Email]]: [[video games]], and is the source of the quote, ''"Your head a splode!"'' (and variants such as ''"Your phone a splode!"'', ''"Well, my head a splode!"'').

This game can be accessed from the email "[[video games]]," as well as the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]].

'''Note:''' You actually can't win or lose this game. When your head a splodes, you just continue the game. And when you destroy Strong Bad's head, a new one appears.

'''Page Title:''' I Strong Bad! I hunger!

== Instructions ==
<pre>Move left and right with arrow keys
Hit 'A' for shield left
Hit 'S' for shield center
Hit 'D' for shield right
Try to hit Strong Bad's big head
Click to start</pre>

== Fun Facts ==
=== Trivia ===
* An otherwise unused sequence of "BACK OFF BABY" is found at the end of the Flash file. It can be seen using a [http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/flash.html seek bar].
** On some systems it can be heard by right-clicking on the game and leaving the menu up when Vector Strong Bad says "YOUR HEAD A SPLODE", then waiting a couple seconds.
** It appears, through use of a Flash decompiler, that this clip was intended to be played when you defeated Strong Bad, before the game reset, but a typo in the code causes this to not work.

=== Glitches ===
* Very rarely, when Strong Bad's attack hits his wall, Strong Bad will speed up greatly for a few seconds and then return to normal speed, but the projectile will be stuck in the back of the room moving back and forth.
* Another glitch involves the projectile apparently hitting the left wall but behaving as though it has hit the back wall. If you deflect the projectile, it will move along the exact line it came at you and will continue to do so for as long as the file is loaded (it cannot be fixed no matter which direction you raise the shield or whether you dodge the projectile or allow your head to a splode).

=== Inside References ===
*The page title "I Strong Bad, I Hunger" is similar to the page title of [[RhinoFeeder]]: "I Rhino, I Hunger". ''(also see Real-World References)''
=== Real-World References ===
* The page title is a possible reference to the old arcade game ''[[Wikipedia:Sinistar|Sinistar]]''. In Sinistar you battled a large spaceship shaped like a head that would say, "I hunger!". ''(also see Inside References)''

== External Links ==
* Play the [[HR:sbzone.html|Game]]
* Play the [[HR:sbzone02.swf|Game (Flash file)]]
*Listen to the [[Videlectrix:songs/sbzone_music.mp3|Game Music]]
{{VidelectrixGames}}
[[Category:Videlectrix Games]]

Lack of Visible Arms

2005-10-18T00:37:04Z

Lunar Jesters: Unstubbed.

[[Image:Homestar's Arms.PNG|thumb|How does Homestar pick things up?]]
[[Homestar Runner]], [[Marzipan]], [[The King of Town]] and [[Homsar]] all have the ability to pick up and carry stuff around even though they lack visible arms and hands. None of the other characters usually seem to pay attention this curiousity, although sometimes their lack of hands are referenced.

==References==
*[[your friends]] - Strong Bad asks Marzipan to "hold out [her] hands"; her response is not that she has none but that she doesn't want to.
*[[fingers]] - Homestar makes himself a pair of fake arms.
*[[The Interview]] - Strong Bad refers to Homestar as a "no-armed whitey".
*[[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]] - Strong Mad tells Homestar he doesn't have arms.

==Oddities==
*[[In Search of the Yello Dello]] - Marzipan slaps Homestar across the face, leaving a visible handprint.
**In the commentary, Strong Bad says that Marzipan has really nice hands.
*[[the bird]] - Homestar flips Strong Bad off, and Strong Bad reacts as if he can see it.
*[[time capsule]] - Homestar is able to manipulate the box, box lid, and wig all at the same time, as if he has multiple invisible arms.

==See also==
*[[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?]]

[[Category:Running Gags]]

Lack of Visible Arms

2005-10-17T22:50:59Z

Lunar Jesters:

[[Image:Homestar's Arms.PNG|thumb|How does Homestar pick things up?]]
[[Homestar Runner]], [[Marzipan]], [[The King of Town]] and [[Homsar]] all have the ability to pick up and carry stuff around even though they lack visible arms and hands. None of the other characters usually seem to pay attention this curiousity, although sometimes their lack of hands are referenced.

==References==
*[[fingers]] - Homestar makes himself a pair of fake arms.
*[[The Interview]] - Strong Bad refers to Homestar as a "no-armed whitey".
*[[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]] - Strong Mad tells Homestar he doesn't have arms.

==Oddities==
*[[In Search of the Yello Dello]] - Marzipan slaps Homestar across the face, leaving a visible handprint.
**In the commentary, Strong Bad says that Marzipan has really nice hands.
*[[the bird]] - Homestar flips Strong Bad off, and Strong Bad reacts as if he can see it.
*[[time capsule]] - Homestar is able to manipulate the box, box lid, and wig all at the same time, as if he has multiple invisible arms.

==See also==
*[[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?]]

{{stub}}

[[Category:Running Gags]]

Lack of Visible Arms

2005-10-17T22:50:45Z

Lunar Jesters:

[[Image:Homestar's Arms.png|thumb|How does Homestar pick things up?]]
[[Homestar Runner]], [[Marzipan]], [[The King of Town]] and [[Homsar]] all have the ability to pick up and carry stuff around even though they lack visible arms and hands. None of the other characters usually seem to pay attention this curiousity, although sometimes their lack of hands are referenced.

==References==
*[[fingers]] - Homestar makes himself a pair of fake arms.
*[[The Interview]] - Strong Bad refers to Homestar as a "no-armed whitey".
*[[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]] - Strong Mad tells Homestar he doesn't have arms.

==Oddities==
*[[In Search of the Yello Dello]] - Marzipan slaps Homestar across the face, leaving a visible handprint.
**In the commentary, Strong Bad says that Marzipan has really nice hands.
*[[the bird]] - Homestar flips Strong Bad off, and Strong Bad reacts as if he can see it.
*[[time capsule]] - Homestar is able to manipulate the box, box lid, and wig all at the same time, as if he has multiple invisible arms.

==See also==
*[[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?]]

{{stub}}

[[Category:Running Gags]]

File:Homestar's Arms.PNG

2005-10-17T22:48:14Z

Lunar Jesters: Homestar's "arms".

Homestar's "arms".

Best/Worst X bucks I ever spent

2005-10-17T21:36:05Z

Lunar Jesters:

[[Homestar Runner]] frequently puts superlatives on how he spends his money.

*[[local news]] (best $5 on waiting in line)
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]] (second best $500 on six-week prank call course, best $500 on race car bed)
*[[theme park]] (worst $3,000 on The Strong Badian Riverquest Safariventure)

[[Category:Running Gags]]

Best/Worst X bucks I ever spent

2005-10-17T21:35:54Z

Lunar Jesters:

Lack of Visible Arms

2005-10-17T21:32:16Z

Lunar Jesters: This should probably be organised by date.

Do [[Homestar Runner]], [[Marzipan]], [[Homsar]], and [[The Goblin]] have '''invisible arms''', or no arms at all? [[The Brothers Chaps]] make many references to this running gag.

==Appearances==
*[[In Search of the Yello Dello]] - Marzipan slaps Homestar across the face, leaving a visible handprint.
**In the commentary, Strong Bad says that Marzipan has really nice hands.
*[[the bird]] - Homestar flips Strong Bad off, and Strong Bad reacts as if he can see it.
**Related: Homestar, Strong Bad and Pom Pom can all see each other's gestures, even though none of them have visible fingers.
*[[The Interview]] - Strong Bad refers to Homestar as a "no-armed whitey".
*[[fingers]] - Homestar makes himself a pair of fake arms.
*[[time capsule]] - Homestar is able to manipulate the box, box lid, and wig all at the same time, as if he has multiple invisible arms.
*[[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]] - Strong Mad tells Homestar he doesn't have arms.

==See also==
[[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?]]

{{stub}}

[[Category:Running Gags]]

Lack of Visible Arms

2005-10-17T21:27:42Z

Lunar Jesters: Adding recent.

Do [[Homestar Runner]], [[Marzipan]], [[Homsar]], and [[The Goblin]] have '''invisible arms''', or no arms at all? [[The Brothers Chaps]] make many references to this running gag.

==Appearances==
*[[In Search of the Yello Dello]] - Marzipan slaps Homestar across the face, leaving a visible handprint.
**In the commentary, Strong Bad says that Marzipan has really nice hands.
*[[the bird]] - Homestar flips Strong Bad off, and Strong Bad reacts as if he can see it.
**Related: Homestar, Strong Bad and Pom Pom can all see each other's gestures, even though none of them have visible fingers.
*[[fingers]] - Homestar makes himself a pair of fake arms.
*[[The Interview]] - Strong Bad refers to Homestar as a "no-armed whitey".
*[[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]] - Strong Mad tells Homestar he doesn't have arms.

==See also==
[[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?]]

{{stub}}

[[Category:Running Gags]]

HRWiki:Welcoming committee

2005-10-12T09:59:56Z

Lunar Jesters: /* Members */ I thought I joined.

Welcome to the Welcoming Committee of the [[Main Page|Homestar Runner Wiki]].

== Who We Are ==
The welcoming committee is a group of people who kindly greet new users and help them get started (if needed). If you want to help out, the most obvious thing you can do is post welcome messages and be friendly and helpful with new users you meet. The easiest way to identify new users is from the [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]] list. The new user's username or talk page will be red because they haven't been created, yet. Once you're on the user page, you can click "User contributions" on the sidebar to see how many edits they've done. Also be sure to check the history of the talk page to verify that no one has already welcomed them (they may have deleted the first welcome message).

Note that joining the committee confers neither responsibilities nor privileges, but members are expected to do some welcoming — we don't want to simply clutter up this page with member names.

You should also have a basic technical understanding of the wiki so that you can answer any questions an inexperienced user might have.

== Don't Bite ==
''"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."''-[[Wikipedia:Hanlon's Razor|Hanlon's Razor]]

The [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Welcoming Committee|Wikipedia Welcoming Committee]], in their "[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers|Please do not bite the newcomers]]" page, wrote:
:...Behavior that may appear malicious to experienced Wikipedians is more likely due to ignorance of our expectations and rules. Even if you're '''100% sure''' that someone is a ''worthless, no-good, low-down scum-sucking Internet troll,'' vandal, or worse; ''comport yourself as if they're not.'' By being forgiving, instructive, and respectful, you come away with much more dignity, and you reflect well on our project.

Basically, just don't get frustrated if a newcomer or some IP makes a mistake- let it slide and give him a friendly note telling them what they did.

== Standards for Welcoming ==

A good welcome message should be around the lines of this [[Template:Welcome|template]]:

{{welcome|(your signature)|(timestamp)}}

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To use the template, type "<code><nowiki>{{subst:welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}</nowiki></code>", which will automatically include your signature and a timestamp. (Typing <tt>subst</tt> before the name of the template tells the system to copy a static version of the template to the page.)

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You get the idea. Be as kind and welcoming as possible and answer any questions they might have.

Please try to center the welcome up there. You don't have to follow it exactly; you can rearange it, reword it, whatever - but '''please include the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Index MediaWiki User's Guide], [[HRWiki:Standards]], [[HRWiki:FAQ]] and [[Help:Editing]] pages.'''

== Members ==
''(Please remember only to join if you plan to do some Welcoming)''

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User talk:Bencejoful

2005-10-12T09:59:09Z

Lunar Jesters: Welcoming.

== Welcome! ==
Welcome to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki!''' We're glad to have you as a member. If you need any help, feel free to ask anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|welcoming committee]]. You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]].

Here are some tips to get you started:
* If you need general information, editing tips, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents|help]] page.
* Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]].
* Read up on the rules and guidelines for your [[HRWiki:User page|user page]].
* If you're not sure what you can do to help out, head over to [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]].
* If you're looking for more community interaction, you can also register over at our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum].
* Above all, be sure to '''be bold''' and have fun!

Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. After all, your user page belongs to you. I hope this information is helpful, and that you'll have a good experience contributing to our knowledge-base and our community.

Sincerely, 
[[User:Lunar Jesters|Jesty]][[User talk:Lunar Jesters|Talk]], and "The Homestar Runner Wiki Welcoming Committee" 09:59, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

PS: Please upload Fanstuff Wiki things at the Fanstuff Wiki from now on. Thanks!

12:00

2005-10-11T20:13:48Z

Lunar Jesters: Minor fix.

[[Image:sbemail30.PNG|thumb|Bubs is a master craftsman.]]

'''Strong Bad Email #30'''

Cory Dewey-Smith wants to know how to get his [[The VCR|VCR]] to stop blinking 12:00.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Garage]]

'''Computer:''' [[Tandy 400]]

'''Date:''' June 3, 2002

'''Running Time:''' 1:10

'''Page Title:''' TANDY 400!!

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' I'll take Strong Bad Emails for a thousand, please.

<blockquote class="tandy email">Strong Bad, 
My vcr keeps blinking 12:00 over and over. Do you 
have any suggestions on how to fix it? 
 
Thankyou, 
Cory Dewey-Smith</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I had the same problem, Dewey-Smith. So I called in a professional to get the job done. Let's go see how he's dewing...um...doing. ''{Strong Bad leaves his seat and goes to Bubs at the workroom.}'' So, Bubs, how is it coming?

'''BUBS:''' Oh, hey, Strong Bad. I think I'm almost finished. It took me a little while to figure out what I was going to do. Then I duct-taped an alarm clock to your VCR.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Duct-taped an alarm clock to the VCR... See, I never would have thought of that! Okay, there's some hairs that seem to be stuck in the duct-tape here. Was that on purpose?

'''BUBS:''' Oh... No! That's just left over from my first idea, which was to duct-tape The Cheat to your VCR. He wasn't into that.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, I could have told you that, man. Well, anyways, thanks for your help, Bubs! And thank you, Cory...Dewey-Smith! So... Join us next week when we'll be duct-taping clocks to all kinds of different stuff.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter eggs ==
*At the end, you can hit the "Eject" button to eject a tape. You can then click the tape to put it back in. A different tape will come out each time. The tapes are:
**'''[[Wikipedia:Yo! MTV Raps|Yo! MTV Raps]]'''
**[[imdb:tt0082199|'''Condorman''']] (1981 movie starring [[Wikipedia:Michael Crawford|Michael Crawford]])
**'''[[Wikipedia:Marvin Hagler|Hagler]] vs. [[Wikipedia:Thomas Hearns|Hearns]]''' (1985 boxing match on [[Wikipedia:Home Box Office|HBO]])
** '''YCDTOTV (season 2)''' ([[Wikipedia:You Can't Do That On Television|You Can't Do That On Television]])
**'''Moscow Peace Festival'''
**'''car commercials'''
**[[Wikipedia:V (TV series)|'''"V"''']] (Mid 80s miniseries)
**[[Wikipedia:The Commish|'''The Commish''']] (Early 90s drama with [[Wikipedia:Michael Chiklis|Michael Chiklis]])
**'''space shows'''
**'''[[Wikipedia:M*A*S*H (TV series)|M*A*SH*]] [[Wikipedia:M*A*S*H (TV series)#"Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"|final episode]]''' (Highest rated final episode ever, misspelled in email)
**[[Wikipedia:The Joy of Painting|'''Joy of Painting''']] (Infamous painting show starring late painter [[Wikipedia:Bob Ross|Bob Ross]])
**'''Strong Mad's b-ball game'''
**'''[[Wikipedia:Slam Dunk Contest|Slam Dunk Contest]] ([[Wikipedia:Spud Webb|Spud Webb]])'''

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*The time on the alarm clock is the actual system time of your computer. This is done using an Action Script in Flash.

===Remarks===
*The alarm clock displays 88:88 for a split-second as it retrieves the computer's internal time.

===Goofs===
*When Bubs turns around, his feet don't move at all. Bubs' torso just swivels 180° to face Strong Bad.
*The "Eject" button is clickable during the whole email, but it doesn't do anything until the end.

===Real-World References===
*Strong Bad's intro is a reference to the game show ''[[Wikipedia:Jeopardy!|Jeopardy!]]''

===Inside References===
*One of the tapes that appears "Joy Of Painting" can also be found on the toons page.

==DVD Version==
*The time on the alarm clock now always reads 8:28 at the start of the email, which changes to 8:29 and 8:30 as the email progresses.
*The VHS tape Easter egg only goes up to "YCDTOTV (season 2)."
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MIKE:''' That's a reference to the TV show Jeopardy!

'''MATT:''' Yeah...

'''MIKE:''' I like how he says Dewey-Smith here. I've always liked that. Or, watch it! Oh, not that.

'''MATT:''' Not this time.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. ''{horrible Strong Bad imitation}'' Dewey-Smith.

'''MATT:''' ''{as Strong Bad}'' Dewey, Dewey, Dewey. Dewey, Dewey.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, do the voice! Do Strong Bad's voice!

'''MATT:''' ''{as Strong Bad}'' Dewey, Dewey, Dewey, Dewey.

'''MIKE:''' I love to get Matt to do Strong Bad's voice.

'''MATT:''' Look, that's one of those, what do you call those work boards in the back?

'''MIKE:''' Pegboards.

'''MATT:''' Pegboards.

'''MIKE:''' My friend Tobin made homemade pegboard just by getting a piece of masonite and drilling the holes in just freehand and it was really bad and funny-looking.

'''MATT:''' So in, Mike, thi—

'''MIKE:''' Look, the No Loafing sign and his desk are—

'''MATT:''' There's also—

'''MIKE:''' —right there! So, apparently—

'''MATT:''' Wait, is that supposed to be the same desk?

'''MIKE:''' I dunno.

'''MATT:''' You mean Strong Bad's computer desk is in the garage?

'''MIKE:''' There's the same color wall. Well, it looks like it...

'''MATT:''' I don't believe you, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' Well...

'''MATT:''' I like that little, he's like ''{adopts semi-Strong Bad tone}'' "Aw, pshaw. I could've told you that." I like that.

'''MIKE:''' Wait, you—I like that.

'''MATT:''' ''{Strong Bad voice}'' Dewey, Dewey, Dewey, Dewey, Dewey, Dewey.

'''MIKE:''' Aw, do it ''again'', Matt!

'''MATT:''' ''{Strong Bad voice}'' Uh, holy cramp!

'''MIKE:''' Holy cramp. ''{laughs}''

== External links ==
* [[HR:sbemail30.html|watch "12:00"]]
* [[HR:sbemail30.swf|view the Flash file for "12:00"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]] [[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]

gimmicks

2005-09-21T20:21:19Z

Lunar Jesters: /* Transcript */ Adding small change.

[[Image:sbemail33.PNG|thumb| I'm fine! Nothing happened; I'm fine! ]]

'''Strong Bad Email #33'''

Mike W. misses the days that Strong Bad would answer emails without some sort of gimmick. Then Strong Bad's computer explodes.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Sad's Room]]

'''Computer:''' [[Tandy 400]]

'''Date:''' June 24, 2002

'''Running Time:''' 1:15

'''Page Title:''' TANDY 400!!

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' Super great, super great... Check your email! Diggity...

<blockquote class="tandy email">Dear Strong Bad, 
 
Do you remember when you would answer emails and 
be funny without some sort of gimmick? I do, I miss 
those days. 
 
With a lot of crap, 
 
Mike W 
Everett, MA</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad prounounces MA as "ma."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Yep. I remember those days, Mike. Those were good days... ''{sniffs}'' good days. ''{The email shrinks to the center of the screen with a powering-down noise.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Mutters}'' What the...crap? ''{The monitor sparks sharply}'' Whoa! Whgjht?

''{silence}''

''{The computer spontaneously explodes in Strong Bad's face covering his head in soot and ash. He flies across the room screaming, and breaks through the wall into Strong Sad's room. He groans and opens his eyes and sees Strong Sad standing above him upside down.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, jeez! Are you okay?

''{Strong Bad stands up.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What, yeah, no, I'm fine! ''{brushes burnt wrestling mask parts backwards}'' Nothing happened; I'm fine!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Did your terrible computer explode?

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, shut up! Look, I'm gonna need to borrow like nine hundred dollars.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Well I hope that's for a new computer. You could get one like yours at a garage sale for like... ''{chuckling}'' fifteen dollars.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I SAID SHUT UP!!! ''{sulkily}'' I ''liked'' that computer.

''{Strong Bad walks through the wall back to his room.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ...I hope some of that money's for buying me a new poster. You don't seem too broken up about that.

''{Cut to what's left of the Tandy 400. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*At the end of the email, you can click on the contrast buttons to make the broken monitor spark and flash. Pressing the left contrast button causes the broken bulb-like component in the center to flash bright white. Pressing the right contrast button causes the green wire to jump and spark.

== Fun Facts ==
===Remarks===
*This, obviously, is the beginning of the end of the Tandy 400.
*When you pause during the explosion, you can see that the "explosion" is just glass shards overlapped on the screen.
*When Strong Bad is talking to Strong Sad, his mouth seems unusually small.
*The spinning fan inside the exploded Tandy at the end doesn't seem to be attached to anything else, and is just floating in midair.

===Goofs===
[[Image:Tandy 400 Exploding.png|thumb| Misplaced head and glass shards. ]]
*When you click the left contrast button at the end of the email, the rainbow star logo disappears until the animation is done, along with the word "Contrast."
*When the Tandy explodes, Strong Bad's reflection is incorrect. It is located at the top of the computer screen, at the same angle the computer is.
*When Strong Bad is flying through the air and crashes into the wall, where Strong Sad's room's wall meets the floor, the bottom-left corner of it protrudes more than it should.
*As Strong Bad is flying, the last thing you see in the background is a door. When he is in Strong Sad's room, the last thing before the wall is now a window.

===Real-World References===
*The opening song is based on the song [[Wikipedia:Super Freak|"Super Freak"]] by [[Wikipedia:Rick James|Rick James]].
*As Strong Bad flies across the room, he passes the same door and window several times. Repeating backgrounds are common in low-budget animation.
*The poster on the wall in [[Strong Sad's Room]] is a picture of [[Wikipedia:Dream (DC Comics)|Morpheus]] from [[Wikipedia:Neil Gaiman|Neil Gaiman's]] "[[Wikipedia:The Sandman (DC Comics Modern Age)|Sandman]]" series.

===Fast Forward===
*This is the first instance of [[Strong Bad's Computer Malfunctioning]].
*This email would later appear in [[personal favorites]].
*The gear and fan would appear inside the shotgunned [[Compy 386]] in [[virus]].

== DVD Version ==
*Instead of clicking on the contrast buttons to make pieces of the computer short-circuit/explode, the malfunctions happen without user interaction.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail33.html|watch "gimmicks"]]
*[[HR:sbemail33.swf|view the Flash file for "gimmicks"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]]

User talk:Rogue Leader

2005-09-21T19:25:49Z

Lunar Jesters: /* Transcription Standards */

I have recently made an [[User talk:Rogue Leader/archive|archive recently]]. Check there for old messages. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 02:05, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Transcription Standards ==
Good work on the [[origins]] commentary transcript. Please read the [[HRWiki:Standards#Transcript|Transcription Standards]] as soon as possible. -[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]]

Uh, there aren't scenes in the transcript. It is just people talking. Basically, there is just some laughter in he backround. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 22:27, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Yes, but there is a certain format you must follow. Please read it. -[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]]

==User creation dates==
Hey Rogue Leader, I just noticed this. Since I became a user before there was a "The Stick", there would be no welcome message on my talk page. Well, I just came back from a month's absence of contributions, and I found you had formally welcomed me on my talk page, as if I was a new user. It's actually pretty funny, considering I actually must have appeared to be new. That's my question actually. As a sysop, could you look up the date that I became a user? I kind of forgot, and I don't think it's an open feature to non-sysops. I think it happened around April 05, maybe? Anyway, could you check for me? Thanks. — {{User:Lapper/sig}}

:Uh, I am not a sysop. I think I can still help, but I am not a sysop. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:54, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Lapper, your earliest logged-in edit was 10 Apr 2005. Assuming you made an edit the day you joined, that's the day. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:57, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

User talk:Rogue Leader

2005-09-20T21:17:02Z

Lunar Jesters:

I have recently made [[User talk:Rogue Leader/archive|archive recently]]. Check there for old messages. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 02:05, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Transcription Standards ==
Good work on the [[origins]] commentary transcript. Please read the [[HRWiki:Standards#Transcript|Transcription Standards]] as soon as possible. -[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]]

User talk:Rogue Leader

2005-09-20T20:08:38Z

Lunar Jesters:

I have recently made [[User talk:Rogue Leader/archive|archive recently]]. Check there for old messages. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 02:05, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Transcription Standards ==
Good work on the [[origins]] commentary transcript. Please read the [[HRWiki:Transcription Standards|Transcription Standards]] as soon as possible. -[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]]

origins

2005-09-20T20:05:37Z

Lunar Jesters: /* Commentary Transcript */ Standardized.

[[Image:breadsingalong.png|thumb|Bread is a good time for everybody!]]

'''Strong Bad Email #123'''

Strong Bad discusses the hangingoutitude of The Stick.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Lil' Strong Bad]], [[Señor]], [[Mr. Bland]], [[Bubs]], [[The Stick]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Mad]], [[Marzipan]], [[Homsar]], [[Strong Sad]], [[The King of Town]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Stick]]

'''Computer:''' [[Lappy 486]]

'''Date:''' January 31, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:19

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in monotone}'' This email is leaving the station. Please move to the center of the email, and away from the doors.

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: a sticky question...</div>
Dear Strong bad, 
I have recently been wondering about the origin of the 
stick. Has it always been a good place for hanging out and 
making rendezvous? 
 
Luke, Eau Claire, WI</blockquote>

''{he tries to pronounce 'rendezvous' plural, as 'rendezvouuuu-ses?', and the bottom line as 'Luke-- eww...Claire...why?'}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh! Why do you Van Peebles always wanna know the origins and histories of every freakin' little thing? Like, do you wanna know how Strong Sad got his belly button, too?

''{cut to a young Strong Bad's birthday; a sign reads 'Happy Birthday Lil Strong Bad'. Strong Bad has a black shirt with a yellow truck on it, and is looking at a white present with a blue ribbon and a tag reading 'To Strong Bad From Mom or Dad'. He grabs the lid and takes it off to reveal a power drill.}''

'''LIL' STRONG BAD:''' ''{lifting the drill}'' Oh, awesome! ''{he revs the drill}''

''{cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{clears the screen}'' Or, like, the origin of Bubs' Concession Stand?

''{Cut to Original Book style. Señor and Mr. Bland stand in flat greenness, and Strong Bad's words are subtitled.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Señor Havin' A Little Trouble and Mr. Bland were by far the most popular characters.

''{a red Stand falls on them with a splurt!}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Then, they were crushed by a falling Bubs' Concession Stand.

''{Bubs appears in it, waving}''

'''BUBS:''' Hot time!

'''STRONG BAD:''' said Bubs.

''{back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, I'm not gonna show you those things. Or the origin of the stick. But I will indulge your curiousity ''{misspelt, but pronounced correctly}'' about the stick's hangingoutitude. It currently rates a 10, but such was not always the case. Like when Homestar used to hold his weekly ''{sounding disturbed, and the words turn green and jiggle on screen}'' bread sing-alongs, ''{back to normal}'' we avoided that place like the plegg! Er, ''{deletes up to the 'p'}'' plague!

''{cut to The Stick, where Homestar Runner is surrounded by bread. He is holding a slice and waving it around while marching on the spot}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' A bread is a good time for me, woo-oo-doo singing, bread is a good time for everybody!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover; Homestar keeps peeking out around the bread slice}'' We sure sniped that problem right between the eyes from three hundred yards by scheduling The Cheat's rhythmic chain dancing recitals for the same time and place.

''{Strong Bad and Strong Mad stand in the background while The Cheat, dressed in a blue suit, is swinging a chain around, hitting Homestar's face and the bread. Homestar has acquired a sign reading 'Come On & Sing.'}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing, despite being hit in the face}'' I cut the crusts off in the morning light...

''{At this point, Homestar's face has a red chain mark from being hit}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{clapping; The Cheat picks up a slice of bread and twirls it while making The Cheat noises}'' He's quite good.

'''STRONG MAD:''' WHAT GRACE!

''{back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' After a couple of minutes, the popularity of Homestar's sing-alongs faded and Strong Mad ate The Cheat's chainwhip. So that's when the stick became a great place to spraypaint Marzipan.

''{Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat by The Stick spraying at Marzipan's dress, which has a picture of a steak and 'St8k DiNNeR' written on it graffiti-style}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' To me, this is something that losers would do.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, this is gonna be my freshest piece yet.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Strong Mad, that looks like cooking spray.

'''STRONG BAD:''' What?! Aw, that's some neva-forgive action right there.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover; the scene darkens slightly}'' But spraypainting people isn't very much fun when they stand there and make fun of you.

''{cut to Marzipan standing by The Stick with an upside-down Homsar stuck to her head, at night; a wolf howls}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' So I super-glued her to Hhh-Homsar...and left them for dead.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Ooh, I think I hear wolves coming.

'''HOMSAR:''' AAAaaaAAh'm the human wedgie! ''{His hat falls and lands on Marzipan's dress}''

''{Homestar marches in, holding a loaf of bread}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' ... don't ask me why, pumpernickel and rye. ''{Note: Homestar's speech impediment makes "why" and "rye" sound exactly the same.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' In order to properly leave them for dead, and not keep hanging around them for dead, we relocated to behind Bubs' ''{cut to Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat behind Bubs' Concession Stand with the muffler and pipe, and a crown with 'On Point' spraypainted on the wall}'' and started calling ourselves the On Point Kings. We di'n't take no guff from nobody!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{to The Cheat}'' Hey man, I know what it means. I was just seeing if you knew.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{makes frustrated The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{walking in}'' Have you guys seen my moleskin journal?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{producing the power drill}'' You want another belly button there, Harry Elephanté?

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{starts at powering of drill}'' Waah! No sir! Heck no at all! ''{runs away}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{throws drill away}'' Man, did you guys see me refuse to take that guff? I flat out rejected it! That guff never even had a chance! ''{pulls out a nail file and starts filing his gloves}'' Ah, that's what being an On Point King is all about.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{walks in with a blue dunce cap on for some reason}'' I hear somebody mention a pointy king? ''{nods his hat}'' Doink doink?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Heck no at all!

''{back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So ya see Claire, if it weren't for the stick, and Marzipan's considerable resistance to death, the On Point Kings may never have stolen the King of Town's dunce cap and renamed it Lotionman. {''a little embarrassed, and stutters his 'd' (not typed)}'' D-Don't ask, it was Strong Mad's idea. Well, I hope that makes you not email me anymore.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down}''

== Easter Eggs ==

* Click on "Eau Claire, WI" to view [[Beverly Sportsinterviews]]' book ''Ewww..Claire!! Why???''
* Click on "dunce" at the end to see and hear an album of Homestar's Bread Sing-alongs.
** Keep clicking the CD cover to hear different songs. The three songs he sings are the same as the ones from the email.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*This is the first time Homsar's hat has not returned to him, regardless of his position (if we don't count [[Modestly Hot Homsar]]). Because he is upside down while glued to Marzipan's forehead, his hat settles on her dress. However, in his character video, he ends up upside down at the end (or, depending on your point of view, the entire video), but his hat still comes back to him.
*This is the first time Señor's full name (Señor Havin' A Little Trouble) is revealed on the website (though it had been mentioned in the DVD commentary for [[flashback]].)
*Even though in the origin of [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], the sign above the window reads "STAND", during the first appearance of said concession stand ([[Where My Hat Is At?]]), the sign reads "CANDY".
*If you look closely at Strong Mad's silhouetted shape, you can see an outline of the front of Strong Mad.

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad has trouble with the pronunciation of the plural form of the word ''rendezvous'', which is spelled the same as the singular, not ''rendezvouses''. The plural can be pronounced either /'''ron'''-day-voo/ (which is also the same as the singular) or /'''ron'''-day-vooz/.
*"Eau Claire" means "Clear Water" in French; the correct pronunciation of "eau" is "oh".
*In the Bread Sing-Alongs CD, the picture of Homestar blinks. This is due to his Flash "movie clip" symbol, which makes him blink automatically in a looped animation.
* The "Come on and Sing" sign was not in the animation the first few days. It was added sometime after a week.
*Strong Bad spelled curiosity the British way, "curiousity."

===Inside References===
*We last saw the smashed muffler in [[no loafing]].
*Homestar peeking out behind the bread concealing his eyes at the end of his first bread sing-along song is a long-time running joke that whenever his eyes are concealed or closed, he has to move them so he can see you. Other examples are [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], [[A Holiday Greeting]], and [[Cool Things]].
* Strong Bad was last "On Point" in the "[[Extra Real Dating Sim XR]]," which is the game from the email [[date]].
*This is the second time in the past two cartoons that a character has been pictured wearing a truck shirt. Little Strong Bad does so here, and [[Tompkins]] wore one in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]. Also, Little Strong Bad's voice is very similar to that of Tompkins.
*The electric drill sound effect was last heard in [[privileges]] as The Cheat earned a new rewards point.

===Real-World References===
*Strong Bad's introduction to the email is a reference to the automated voice systems commonly used on subway trains.
*The sound that the drill makes is closer to the sound of a compressed-air powered tool, rather than an electric drill.
*When Señor and Mr. Bland are crushed in the scene depicting the origin of [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], the manner in which their legs stick out is as that of the Wicked Witch of the East in [[Wikipedia:The_Wizard_of_Oz_%281939_movie%29|The Wizard of Oz]] when she is crushed by Dorothy's house.
*Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to [[Leomard Sportsinterviews|Lem Sportsinterviews]], is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Beverly Cleary|Beverly Cleary]], an author for children and young adults.
*The name "[[On Point Kings]]" and the crown graffiti are references to the [[Wikipedia:Latin Kings|Latin Kings]], a famous street gang that originated in Chicago. Since members of the Latin Kings are traditionally Hispanic, this is in keeping with Strong Bad's vaguely Mexican heritage.
*[[Wikipedia:Moleskine|Moleskine]] is a brand of pocket notebooks and sketch pads popular among travelling artists and writers. Strong Sad mistakenly pronounces it "mole skin", whereas the correct pronunciation is /mol-a-'''skeen'''-a/.
*"Harry Elephante" is a reference to famous calypso musician [[Wikipedia:Harry Belafonte|Harry Belafonte]]. A similar joke was made in the ''Friends'' episode entitled "The One After The Super Bowl," when Ross (David Schwimmer) mentions that his monkey's favorite toy is named "Harry Elephante".
*"Van Peebles" is a reference to the filmmakers [[Wikipedia:Melvin Van Peebles|Melvin Van Peebles]] (known for ''[[Wikipedia:Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song|Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song]]'') and his son [[Wikipedia:Mario Van Peebles|Mario Van Peebles]].
*Where "bread sing-alongs" is green and jittering, this could be a reference to the Nintendo 64 game Banjo-Kazooie, where when a character said something 'disgusting' those particular words would jiggle in that fashion.
*Strong Bad's line "that's some never-forgive action right there" is a direct quote from Min One in the graffiti documentary [[Wikipedia:Style Wars|Style Wars]].
*In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the '80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
===Commentary Transcript===
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Ryan Sterritt]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[Jonathan Howe]]

'''MIKE:''' Hey Ryan, who's sitting next to you?

'''RYAN:''' I think it's Homestar!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh no! I'm sitting next to Ryan!

'''RYAN:''' Hi, Homestar.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hi, Homestar.

'''RYAN:''' I'm Ryan.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hi Ryan! I like your beard!

'''Ryan:''' I've got a little beard going on.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm gonna scrub it!

''{Ryan, Mike and Jonathan laugh.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Somebody give me a sponge.

'''MIKE:''' Hey Homestar, this is Jonathan.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I don't want to talk to that guy. Oh, wait! Sorry! Hi, Jonathan!

'''JONATHAN:''' Hi, Homestar.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' It's great to see you tonight.

'''JONATTHAN:''' It's, uh, it's afternoon.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well give some lunch then. Look at that little truck shirt Little Strong Bad has on!

'''MIKE:''' Were you friends with Strong Bad back in those days?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I didn't meet him until later on.

'''MIKE:''' No?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No.

'''JONATHAN:''' That drill sounds like that super powered ratchet gun they have in...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I think it is. I think it is what loosens your tires. Your lugnuts.

'''JONATHAN:''' In the shop.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You old lugnuts.

'''JONATHAN:''' Hot time!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Didn't Strong Bad just show us the origin of the stand?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, he did. That's sort of a joke that he says that he won't show us but he just has.

'''RYAN:''' Wait, explain that again to me.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Is that a joke? Does that count? As a joke? Honestly?

'''MIKE:''' Well, I don't know.

'''RYAN:''' Hey, Homestar, this is your big moment!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh! Oh! Shut up! Do ddodo singing bread...

'''MIKE:''' Yeah...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Bread is a good time for everybody.

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== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail123.html|watch "origins"]]
*[[HR:sbemail123.swf|view the Flash file for "origins"]]
*[[Forum:1907|forum thread re: "origins"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
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Mundelow

2005-09-19T19:51:46Z

Lunar Jesters: This page needed love.

'''Mundelow''' is the hometown of [[Teen Girl Squad]]'s [[What's Her Face]] as well as of [[Thorax Corporation]].

*[[What's Her Face]] lives at 412 S. Figgis Mundelow 80808.
*[[Thorax Corporation]] is located at 403 Figgis St. NW in Mundelow.
**Note that this is not the same block as What's Her Face, since it's NW and not S.
*The [http://www.thoraxcorp.com/ Thorax Corporation Web site] reveals that Mundelow is a town in Pennsylvania. In the U.S., however, 80808 is actually the Zip code for Calhan, CO.

[[Category:Foreign Lands]]
[[Category:Inside Jokes]]
[[Category:Stubs]]

extra plug

2005-09-03T12:58:30Z

Lunar Jesters: No it isn't.

[[Image:sbemail116.PNG|thumb|Emailing in the dark]]

'''Strong Bad Email #116'''

[[Strong Bad]] shows us his awesome new [['Lectric Boots]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Mad]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The King of Town]] (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Club Technochocolate]] (Easter egg), [[King of Town's Castle]] (Easter egg)

'''Computer:''' [[Compy 386]]

'''Date:''' October 11, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 3:23

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Ow ow ow... Ow ow oww... Ow ow owww... Email...

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="email">Dear S to the B, 
I noticed that you always have an 
extra plug socket open under your 
desk. Isn't there something cool you 
could plug in there? 
Simcity, 
Justin Corcoran, MASS</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Awww, I '''hate''' getting these mass emails! ''{typing}'' REMOVE ME! UNSUBSCRIBE! TAKE ME OFFA LIST! ''{clears screen, continues typing}'' Well HUGE to the DORK, your timing couldn't be more perfect, as I just received my new electric boots in the mail today. Check out these features.

''{Strong Bad stops typing and produces a box of 'Lectric Boots.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No fewer than 8 lights flashing at any given time! Whisper quiet, and, uh, check out that guy dancing with that hot girl. That's gonna be ''me'' at the club ''{He pronounces it "clüb", a mix between "club" and "cloob".}'', and the hot girl will be The Cheat! Er, I mean, an actual hot girl! ''{speaking as the guy on the box}'' Hey there, fruit pie...the magician. Wanna dance? ''{speaking as the girl on the box}'' Yes, I would like to be your girlfriend based solely on your awesome boots.

''{Strong Bad sets the box on his desk. We pull back and see that Strong Bad is wearing the electric boots, with The Cheat under the desk near the empty socket.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, The Cheat, let's do this.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{cheat noises that sound like "OK!"}''

''{The Cheat plugs in the boots, causing the lights on the boots to come on and a loud, vacuum-cleaner-like humming to start. The Cheat puts his hands over his ears.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{shouting over the noise}'' Whoa! Check out those lights! They're flashing!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{questioning cheat noises, shouting}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{shouting}'' I said check out the flashing lights!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{questioning cheat noises, shouting}''

''{The Cheat leaves the room.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{shouting}'' Hey, where are you going? Wait up!

''{Strong Bad gets up and walks to follow The Cheat, until he reaches the end of his cord.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{shouting}'' I'm gonna need an extension cord!

''{Strong Bad sits back in front of the Compy 386.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing, shouting}'' Attention all interested ladies: Please have electrical sockets installed every 5 feet before inviting me over to your apartment or dormroom. So, I guess I'm awex— ''{The power goes out.}'' SOME IS THE REASON WHY— ''{typing, despite power outage}'' Whoa. I guess these boots suck up a lot of energy. Maybe that's what "solid state" means. I suppose I can stop typing now. ''{stops typing}'' I'm gonna need some help finishing this email without power.

''{Cut to the darkened living room. Strong Mad, Strong Sad, and The Cheat appear to be watching TV, and are laughing. Strong Bad walks in.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What are you guys watching?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Shhh!

''{Cut to the TV screen, where a picture of Andy Griffith's head is taped on. Strong Mad, Strong Sad, and The Cheat start laughing again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{offscreen}'' You guys are watching a picture of Andy Griffith's head taped to a TV?

''{Cut back to the view of the couch. Homestar walks in.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, has it started yet? I brought some popcorn! ''{He produces a popcorn bag containing a bottle of [[Mountain Dew]].}'' DANG, Strong Bad, I like your boots.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look, I'm going to need some help finishing up this email. Will somebody give me a hand?

'''STRONG MAD:''' WHEN THIS IS OVER!

''{Cut back to the Compy 386. We can hear that the boots are running again. Strong Sad is holding up a piece of black paper in front of the monitor, which he lowers to reveal Strong Bad's "typed" text as Strong Bad is typing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing, shouting}'' Well, whatever your name was, the boots are back in action, and so am I. I can already tell they're gonna be a hit when I wear them to da club this weekend. the ladies can't resist flashing lights and an obnoxiously loud hum! ''{stops typing}'' All right, Strong Mad! Go!

''{The Paper comes down with Strong Mad producing the sound effect. Cut back from Strong Bad's desk to see Strong Mad holding The Cheat upside-down over the Compy 386, with The Cheat holding the paper in his hands. The extra plug has been burnt. Strong Sad is holding the black piece of paper he used to obscure Strong Bad's text, and Homestar is wrapped in an extension cord leading from Strong Bad's boots elsewhere. A few seconds later, Strong Bad starts speaking}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Way to go, guys! I doubt '''anyone''' could tell the difference between a regular email and this unplugged email! Now keep holdin' it! Nobody move! Gonna be a long week!

''{A few more seconds later, Homestar starts talking.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{rhythmically}'' I really got. I really gotta pee. I really got. I really gotta pee pee. I really got. I really gotta pee.

''{Strong Sad joins Homestar.}''

'''STRONG SAD AND HOMESTAR:''' ''{rhythmically}'' I really got. I really gotta pee pee. I really got. I really gotta pee. I really got. I really gotta pee pee.

'''STRONG BAD:''' That is a disgusting song.

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on either of Strong Bad's boots to see Strong Bad and The Cheat at Club Technochocolate.
:''{Strong Bad and The Cheat are at Club Technochocolate. Strong Bad dancing wearing his 'lectric boots near a plugin. The boots are making their usual loud humming noise. The Cheat is standing nearby plugging his ears with a couple glowsticks.}''
:'''MUSIC:''' ''{background}'' All is on! Feel it, feel it, feel it, feel it! All is o—
:''{The power goes out.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, The Cheat! Let's keep this party movin'! On to the next club!
:''{Strong Bad unplugs his boots and walks offscreen.}''
*Click on the extension cord to see what the 'Lectric Boots '''are''' plugged into.
:''{Cut to The King of Town's castle. An extension cord can be seen running from a sparking plugin out a window and into the distance. A sign has been placed near the plugin reading "auxilliary food-related thing. DO NOT UNPLUG!" The King of Town is standing nearby holding a piece of paper.}''
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' This electricity bill is '''pretendous'''!

== Fun Facts ==
===Remarks===
*Solid state refers to transistor electronics, vs. old vacuum tube technology. In the '50s through perhaps the mid-'70s (which seems like it might be the period from which the boots came), manufacturers would stamp "solid state" on their various devices, signifying that they were state-of-the-art.
*In the [[Club Technochocolate|Technochocolate]] Easter egg, The Cheat appears to be plugging his ears with the glowsticks, which can give us a rough estimated location of his ears beneath all that fur.
*Even though only one of Strong Bad's boots is plugged in, both boots work.
*During the unplugged email, there are burn marks around the free socket under his desk... It seems the boots "fused" when the plug actually melted and/or caught on fire.
*When Strong Bad holds up the box in which his shoes came, his boxing glove covers the contrast knobs, but you can still change his screen contrast through his gloves.
*Although there are black marks around the extra plug under Strong Bad's desk after he blows the power, there are no marks around the plug at [[Club Technochocolate|Technochocolate]] when he blows the power there.
*At the end, when the gang are maintaining the "unplugged e-mail", Strong Bad remarks that it is going to be a long week. It turned out to be four weeks until the next email, [[montage]].
*Viewing the Flash file shows Homestar sitting down fully on the floor, but he does not seem to have a butt, as his legs bend up into his shirt.
*The King of Town's bill has the title 'Lectric bill, spelled just like Strong Bad's 'Lectric Boots.

===Goofs===
*Strong Bad's boots stop making noises in the end even though the lights are flashing.

===Glitches===
*The contrast knob on the [[Compy 386|Compy]] stops working when Strong Bad addresses "all interested ladies" even though the power is still on.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad started to spell the word "awexome" before the power went out, a reference to the email [[monster truck]] and [[Awexome Cross]].
*"Dang, Strong Bad, I like your boots!" is a reference to the cartoon [[New Boots]].
*The King of Town's statement about his electric bill being "[[Pretendous|pretendous]]" is a reference to the [[Fan Costume Commentary|Strong Bad Fan Costume Commentary]].
*The "All Is On" song in [[Club Technochocolate]] is from an Easter egg in [[for kids]].
*Club Technochocolate is a reference to the email [[monument]].
*The sound effect of Strong Bad's boots when he is walking is identical to that of [[Stinkoman]]'s boots in [[Under Construction]].
*Homestar singing he has to pee may be a reference to [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]] and/or [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].
*The TV that had [[Wikipedia:Andy Griffith|Andy Griffith]]'s head taped to it was the TV from the old toons menu.
*The guy on the box has a passing resemblance to [[Senor Cardgage]], specifically the combover, the beard, and the potbelly.
*The Cheat's glowsticks are references to the emails [[techno]] and [[monument]].
*SB uses his [[Teen Girl Squad]] voice for the lady on the box.

===Real-World References===
*The way Strong Bad pronounces 'da club' throughout the e-mail is a reference to [[Wikipedia:50 Cent|50 Cent's]] hit single 'In Da Club', where he rounds off the 'u' in the word 'club' the same way.
*The author of this email signed it with ''[[Wikipedia:SimCity|SimCity]]'', which is a popular city-making game series by [[Wikipedia:Maxis|Maxis]] and [[Wikipedia:Electronic Arts|EA Games]].
*[http://theimaginaryworld.com/pix401.jpg "Fruit Pie the Magician"] is a reference to the mascot for [[Wikipedia:Hostess|Hostess]] brand fruit pies.
*The 'lectric Boots may have been inspired by the song "Bennie and the Jets" from [[Wikipedia:Goodbye Yellow Brick Road|Goodbye Yellow Brick Road]] by Sir [[Wikipedia:Elton John|Elton John]].
*"S to the B" is an example of a common hip-hop/rap method of joining two names, words, or letters.

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail116.html|watch "extra plug"]]
*[[HR:sbemail116.swf|view the Flash file for "extra plug"]]
*[[Forum:1026|forum thread re: "extra plug"]]

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The Homestar Runner

2005-08-16T20:19:08Z

Lunar Jesters: Adding note about personality.

[[Image:the homestar runner.png|thumb|"What?"]]
'''The Homestar Runner''' (a.k.a. "Kick the Can Homestar") is the [[1936]] [[Homestar Runner]]. His primary interest is in finding something to eat during the [[Wikipedia:Great Depression|Great Depression]] along with [[1936 Marzipan]] and [[Fat Dudley]].

He does not seem to be a very good listener, and often responds to those who wish to converse with him with a flat "What?" His torso replaced modern-day Homestar's in [[virus]] and [[Main Page 22]], thanks to [[The Virus]].

His language is often extreme, and uses many substitutes of profanity. This was a common stereotype of television programs in that era.

He kicks an old [[Can of Water Soup]]. He has done so since his dog was washed away in the storm of '28.

He is [[Mike Chapman]]'s favorite character in the entire Homestar Runner universe. Mike thinks he's a lot smarter and more aware of what's going on than modern-day Homestar.

The Brothers Chaps either call this character "Old Timey Homestar," "Kick the Can Homestar," or just "Homestar."

*'''Debut:''' [[Kick the Can]]
*[[:Category:The Homestar Runner Filmography|Complete Filmography]]
===See Also===
[[The_Homestar_Runner_Evolution|The Homestar Runner Evolution]]

[[Category: 1936 Characters|Homestar Runner, The]]

invisibility

2005-07-20T13:57:56Z

Lunar Jesters: Which is noted in the transcript.

[[Image:invisibility.PNG|thumb|BEHOLD! A spectacle of graphics and sound!]]

'''Strong Bad Email #41'''

[[Tandy 400]] is dead and gone. BEHOLD! Da [[Compy 386]]! A spectacle of graphics and sound! Meanwhile, Strong Bad discovers being invisible really isn't worth it.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Bubs]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[Strong Mad]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Field]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]]

'''Computer:''' [[Compy 386]]

'''Date:''' September 9, 2002

'''Running Time:''' 1:47

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{off-screen}'' I'm hooome!

''{He walks to the Tandy 400 and sits in front of it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, let's see here. Don't need this anymore.

''{Strong Bad removes the post-it on the screen that says "DORKS!" on it with an angry face with sharp teeth below.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And don't need ''this'' anymore.

''{Strong Bad knocks the Tandy off the table and onto the floor.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' For behold...

''{Strong Bad places the Compy on the desk.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The 386. A spectacle of graphics and sound! ''{A tune is played and the "386 Version 1.5" logo appears on the screen.}'' Okay, let's get to checking!

<blockquote class="email">strong bad, 
 
what would you do if you were 
invisable for one day???? 
 
sin studly17</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well dumb name, this is something I've often thought about myself. And I came to the conclusion that... ''{clears screen, continues typing}'' I don't really think being visible prevents me from doing whatever I want to do. So I'd probably just do the kinda stuff I normally do.

''{Cut to an invisible Strong Bad stealing boxes of Swiss Cake Rolls from Bubs' Concession Stand.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voice-over}'' You know, like, steal stuff...

''{Bubs turns around to find the Swiss Cake Rolls boxes floating away.}''

'''BUBS:''' My chocolates! Come back, chocolates! I didn't mean what I said...

''{Cut to Homestar Runner standing in the field.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voice-over}'' ...punch stuff...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Marzipan is ''late''.

''{The boxes of rolls float up to Homestar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, hey, guys!

''{A punching noise is heard and Homestar doubles over. The boxes float off.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oof! Owwwww... Those things are bad for you...

''{Cut to Invisible Strong Bad eating the Swiss Cake Rolls on his couch in front of the TV. Family Feud is on in here.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voice-over}'' ...eat stuff...and at the same time...watch stuff...

''{The "Family Feud" strike buzzer is heard from the TV.}''

'''INVISIBLE STRONG BAD:''' Pwa ha ha ha! Survey says, you're an idiot!

''{Strong Mad enters the room and walks in front of where Invisible Strong Bad is sitting.}''

'''INVISIBLE STRONG BAD:''' Oh, hey, man. Look, I'm sitting here, I'm just invisible, okay? ''{Strong Mad looks confused and looks around for the source of the voice, while Invisible Strong Bad waves the swiss cake roll around him}'' Hey! Brain-for-brains! I'm right here! The floating Swiss Cake Roll is talking to you! Hey, now what the...NONONONO...

''{Strong Mad gets angry and sits on the couch where Invisible Strong Bad is sitting.}''

'''INVISIBLE STRONG BAD:''' WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!

''{Cut back to the computer with Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh! ''{typing}'' Nevermind. Being invisible is not worth a face full of Strong Mad butt. ''{stops typing}'' Whoa! ''{resumes typing}'' I feel like I need to take a shower. I dunno when the last time he washed that singlet was. ''{stops typing}'' Anyways. Remember, kids! Take your vitamins, pretend you're hilarious, and always, ''always'', e-mail Strong Bad.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down. The screen eventually fades out and cuts to the Tandy 400 sitting in a trash can.}''

== Easter Eggs ==

*At the end of it, the screen will fade to the Tandy in the trash. You can click on the contrast buttons to see some funny last words.
**Why, Strong Bad, why?
**Remember the duck pond?
**I thought we were a team.
**Whatever, man. I can make it on my own.
**386? more like three eighty SUCKS!
**Tell the printer I'll miss her
**Yeah? Well someone on eBay loves me.
**There's flies in me. It tickles.
**My mind is going. I can feel it. [x5]
**Fine, I'm gonna start giving away secrets.
**Have you clicked on the 'O' in Message Bored?
** Justin Bailey ****** ******
**Oh jeez. I think this is really it.
**gasp.
**wheez.
**cough.
**''(blank screen)'' [x2]
**end of line.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*This is the first appearance of the Compy 386, but it won't be the last appearance of the Tandy 400.
===Goofs===
*If you look at the Tandy's screen when it's in the garbage, you'll notice that the crack in the glass isn't there.
*When Strong Bad knocks the Tandy off the desk, a piece of Strong Bad's reflection from the computer screen can be seen on the wall.

===Glitches===
*If you try to change the contrast on Tandy when Strong Bad's reflection appears, the reflection is not changed like in previous emails, instead, it looks like his reflection on Compy.
*In addition, in the reflection in Tandy, you'll see that Strong Bad's red mask base is cut just before the edge of the screen, but not the black shape in the front. You'll see it better with the green contrast being set on.
*Strangely, when Strong Bad sits down at the Tandy, we see his reflection but it blocks the little green lines on the screen. In real life this wouldn't happen, nor does it happen in any other email.

===Inside References===
*One of the 'last words' is a hint to click on the 'O' in Message Bored. The "Message Bored" it is refering to is the [[Strong Bad's Message Bored]], an old, official forum that used to be on the site (now, only the banner from the top is still around.) Clicking on the "O" it brings you to 3 hidden games.
*"Remember the duck pond?" is a reference to [[duck pond]].

===Real-World References===
*The line "[http://www.palantir.net/2001/sounds.html My mind is going. I can feel it.]" is a reference to the movie ''[[Wikipedia:2001: A Space Odyssey|2001: A Space Odyssey'']].
*The line "[[Wikipedia:Metroid#JUSTIN BAILEY|Justin Bailey]] ****** ******" refers to a cheat code for the game [[Wikipedia:Metroid|Metroid]], which caused the heroine [[Wikipedia:Samus Aran|Samus Aran]] to be dressed in a skimpier outfit than her normal armored suit when you input it as your continue password.
*"End of line" is a quote from the Walt Disney movie ''[[Wikipedia:Tron_(movie)|Tron]]''. The sinister Master Control Program always ended conversations with his minions by saying "[http://161.58.5.90/tron/endline.wav End of line.]"
*At the end of the email when Strong Bad says "Take your vitamins, pretend you're hilarious, and always, always, e-mail Strong Bad." is a parody of the way [[Wikipedia:Hulk Hogan|Hulk Hogan]] used to tell fans to "train, say your prayers, and take your vitamins" in the '80s.

===Fast Forward===
*This email is later mentioned in [[personal favorites]].
*The phrase "I can make it on my own" is used as the motto of [[Li'l Brudder]].
*The Tandy comes back from the dead in [[ghosts]].

== DVD Version ==
*Unlike the email version, you have to click on a hidden Strong Bad head icon to access the Tandy 400's last words, as opposed to just waiting.
**As well, there are minor differences in the egg. The egg is now a video, with sound effects of the flies buzzing, blips when the Tandy changes text, and inability to cycle through the text manually. When the Tandy says "My mind is going, I can feel it," it flashes on the screen a few times before switching over to the next block of text. As well, when "End of Line" appears, the text slowly fades away into nothingness.
*There is also a hidden creator's commentary for this email. To access it, just switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching this email.

=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' Strong Bad's returning from vacation, Mike! This is the first break we really took after we'd started doing the Strong Bad Emails every week, huh?

'''MIKE:''' Mmm-hm. Couple weeks.

'''MATT:''' Where'd ''you'' go on your vacation?

'''MIKE:''' I went to Bald Head Island in North Carolina.

'''MATT:''' Did you?

'''MIKE:''' Mmm-hm. The beach.

'''MATT:''' I guess I went to Marco Island, Florida, I would assume. ''{pause}'' So, here comes the 386! Just—

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, new computer! Uh, he hasn't updated since then.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Should we do that?

'''MIKE:''' Maybe someday. I've thought about giving him a laptop named Lappy.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' That sounds pretty good.

'''MIKE:''' Maybe we'll do that someday.

'''MATT:''' The [[Lappy 486]]?

'''MIKE:''' Uh-huh.

'''MATT:''' I like that song Bubs is singing to himself. I love how personified the Swiss Cake Rolls are.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, no one, no one seems to have a problem with the floating Swiss Cake Rolls.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' It's like, so common.

'''MATT:''' Bubs had been in some kind of domestic dispute with them earlier. Homestar was... y'know, maybe going to meet them up at the club later. I like the, like, butt, the sweaty butt imprint that Strong Bad's leaving on the couch there. Here comes Graw Mad! Look out! He doesn't know what's going on! Uh-oh, Strong Bad! Ohhh, man.

'''MIKE:''' So did that really happen?

'''MATT:''' What?

'''MIKE:''' All of that stuff?

'''MATT:''' No.

'''MIKE:''' Oh.

'''MATT:''' That was all, I think—

'''MIKE:''' Like a dream sequence?

'''MATT:''' We draw—there's a fine line. Sometimes, it's really happening, and sometimes it's just hypothetical.

'''MIKE:''' I think that one was hypothetical.

'''MATT:''' I think we leave the best—the more grey we leave it, the better. Thanks everyone.

=== Fun Facts ===
*This commentary serves as very effective foreshadowing to the email [[virus]] (which had not been made at the time the commentary was recorded).
*It is also a foreshadowing of [[animal]], since the [[Lappy 486]] has indeed replaced the Compy.
*Matt calling Strong Mad "Graw Mad" is probably a reference to [[the facts]] (though the email may not have been made at the time of the commentary recording).
*The Brothers Chaps visited [[Wikipedia:Bald Head Island, North Carolina|Bald Head Island]] and [[Wikipedia:Marco Island, Florida|Marco Island]], two small towns on the East Coast of the United States.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail41.html|watch "invisibility"]]
*[[HR:sbemail41.swf|view the Flash file for "invisibility"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]]
[[Category:Strong Mad Filmography]]
[[Category:Bubs Filmography]]
[[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]]
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[[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]]

ghosts

2005-07-02T12:56:47Z

Lunar Jesters: When you assume...

[[Image:sbemail48.PNG|thumb|Tandy strikes again!]]

'''Strong Bad Email #48'''

Strong Bad gives the ol' kingdom a thorough ghost check.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[The Cheat]], [[General Tso's Chicken]], [[Bad Graphics Ghost]], [[Strong Sad]] (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strongbadia]], [[The Center of Time and Space]] (Easter egg)

'''Computer:''' [[Compy 386]]

'''Date:''' October 31, 2002

'''Running Time:''' 2:24

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' Boy, is it ever Monday.

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="email">Yo yo, Strong Bad! 
 
Are there any ghosts in Strongbadia? 
 
Your Favorite Cowboys, 
Josh, John & Doug 
Nashville, TN</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa. Took all three of ya to come up with that one, huh? You're some bright young men! ''{typing}'' You know boys, cowboys, I've never really given the ol' kingdom a thorough ghost check. ''{calling out}'' The Cheat! ''{The Cheat zips right up to Strong Bad}'' Meet me in the Strong Bad Cave! ''{The Cheat makes a quizzical noise}'' Erm, well...meet me in the closet and, uh...we'll put on some costumes.

''{We see an old Batman-style transition, with the eye portion of Strong Bad's facemask used as a logo to designate a scene change. Strong Bad and The Cheat walk out into Strong Badia at night, both dressed in Ghostbusters T-shirts.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, The Cheat, let's just turn on my ghost-detecting equipment here...see if we can't get any readings. ''{turns on a flashlight and waves it around}'' Hey sign! You haunted? What about you, tire? Any ghosts? Chinese food! You a ghost? ''{the top of the box of Chinese food opens up with a green mist escaping. The Cheat makes a screaming noise. }'' IT'S THE GHOST OF GENERAL TSO! Oh—wait. It's just grody and rotten. The Cheat, will you please freaking clean up after yourself?! Oh well, looks like Strongbadia is ghost-free and proud to be.

''{The ghost of Tandy appears behind him}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh! Uh... My old computer! Umm... What's up, man? Sure is one...spooky sound you're making there...

''{The Bad Graphics Ghost materializes on the Tandy screen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ooh, lookit that! Little...bad graphics ghost. Heh. Hey, little guy... Look, old computer. Sorry I threw you out and everything but, uh...The Cheat, um...Chea-Chea-Cheat's got soccer practice, so uh... Did you remember your cleats, The Cheat? THROW THAT CHINESE FOOD AT HIM!

''{The Cheat does, and they run off. The ghost computer flies away. Cut back to the Compy. [[The Paper]] comes down, and the Bad Graphics Ghost appears on the Compy's screen}''

== Easter Eggs ==

*At the end of this one a "Bad Graphics Ghost" appears. To make the pieces disappear, you can mouse-over them or hold down the Tab key.
*If you manage to get all the pieces to be gone at the same time, the computer will say "You killed the bad graphics ghost. Now Strong Sad will sing you a scary song." The scene changes to Strong Sad in the center of all Time and Space, where he will sing a song for you:
::''Have you seen the ghost of John?''
::''All white bones with the skin all go-o-o-one!''
::''Whoo! whoooo! whooo!''
::''Wouldn't it be chilly with no skin ooonnnn...?''
::''{stops singing}'' Whoa, check it out! It's like I'm the master of time and space in here!

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===
*Strong Bad comments, "Boy, is it ever Monday!," because this was released late, on a Wednesday.

===Trivia===
*This is one of only four emails so far to feature both the [[Tandy 400]] and the [[Compy 386]]. The others are [[invisibility]], [[personal favorites]], and [[no loafing]], unless you consider the beginning of [[flashback]] to be a Tandy 400 appearance.
*This is one of the only times you will see Strong Bad in a shirt (other than Halloween toons). He also wore a shirt in [[stand-up]] and had the outline of an undershirt in his suntan in [[lures & jigs]] when he was fishing.

===Remarks===
*The Tandy 400 is apparently obsolete and can only display images of poor graphics, and yet it was able to clearly show a screenshot from Hairstyle Runner in [[homestar hair]].

===Real-World References===
*The printings on Strong Bad's and The Cheat's shirts are the logo for the movie ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097428/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxzZz0xfGxtPTIwMHx0dD1vbnxwbj0wfHE9R2hvc3RidXN0ZXJzIDJ8aHRtbD0xfG5tPW9u;fc=1;ft=20 Ghostbusters II]''.
*This email contains some very obvious references to the old [[Batman]] TV series from the 1960s, both in Strong Bad telling The Cheat "Quick! To the Strong Badcave!" and the scene cut between [[Computer Room|Strong Bad's computer room]] and [[Strongbadia]].
*The 'Center of Time and Space' appears to be a slight variation on the Windows 'starfield simulation' screen saver.

===Goofs===
*The Tandy's ghost still has the scorch marks and duct tape, but the cracks on the screen have disappeared completely.

== DVD Version ==
*You don't have to select all of the blocks on the Bad Graphics Ghost to kill it this time. You merely have to select the hidden Strong Bad icon in the lower left corner of the Compy 386 screen.
**As well, it sounds like reverb was added to Strong Sad's song and dialogue, for added creepiness.
*The DVD version adds a hidden creator's commentary. To access it, change your DVD player's audio language selection while watching this email.

=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{heard in the background}'' Boy, is it ever Monday.

'''MATT:''' That—

'''MIKE:''' Uh, I think we put it up on Wednesday that time.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, because Monday we did the, uh, Halloween cartoon, which was the [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]—or maybe that was Tuesday—I don't even know, but yeah. So this was, uh, it's only—it's weird, the only themed, uh, time of the year, Strong Bad emails are Halloween ones. There's the [[halloweener]] one and this one.

'''MIKE:''' That's true—well, the [[flag day]] one.

'''MATT:''' That's true, that was on Flag Day, wasn't it?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' That's of course a reference to the old Batman TV show.

'''MIKE:''' Spider-Man.

'''MATT:''' What? It was Batman.

'''MIKE:''' Scrapeman. Scrape-on-the-knee-man. Uh, I like doing Strong Badia and the blue for night.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, this was good, there's the masking—

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, like three maskings right there.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that's the good...

'''MIKE:''' Remember when the toons menu used to be an old Chinese menu?

'''MATT:''' I do.

'''MIKE:''' That was the dragon that we used on that menu.

'''MATT:''' I like that they're both wearing ''Ghostbusters II'' outfits. My friend Jamie still has a ''Ghostbusters II'' outfit, I think. My friend Jamie's the guy that first said the words Homestar Runner all together. I like—all these sound effects are just me going ''{blows to make wind sound}'' and ''{pssswishyswish sound}''

'''MIKE:''' You're so talented.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, listen how much more talented I am than Mike. ''{powacahoowachoo sound}''

'''MIKE:''' ''{powankydoowow musical sound}''

'''MATT:''' This is supposed to sound like a laser.

'''MIKE:''' A laser. ''{pee-oww musical sound}''

'''MATT:''' Watch; listen. ''{fweeowwoosh}'' ''{blows to make ghost sound}''

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail48.html|watch "ghosts"]]
*[[HR:sbemail48.swf|view the Flash file for "ghosts"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
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Biz Cas Fri 1

2005-06-25T20:13:06Z

Lunar Jesters: Yes, but we have a link to a page that says the same thing.

[[Image:biz cas fri.JPG|thumb|"That's why you're my D-O-G-E!"]]

Strong bad tries to finish 3rd Quarter projection analysis spreadsheets, but has trouble when Homestar begins his usual annoyance spree.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' Puppet [[Strong Bad]], Puppet [[Homestar Runner]]

'''Places:''' [[The Office]]

'''Date:''' June 24, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 1:50

== Transcript ==
''{Close-up of a water cooler. The title words, "Biz Cas Fri" appear. Air bubbles rise into the cooler. Cut to Strong Bad at his office computer in his cubicle. Strong Bad is busily typing away, wearing a striped casual polo shirt.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ahh, I'm almost done with these third-quarter projection analysis spreadsheets, and ''still'' no sign of—

''{Homestar Runner swoops in, wearing a solid-brown casual polo shirt.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What is up, my dog?!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ohh, I am not your dog.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Rondleman, you crack me up. Crack! Me! Up! That's why you're my D-O-G-E!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Your ''doge?!'' What are you talking about? I'm Strong Bad! Rondleman works in Regional Shipping Management Resources.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ahaha! Good one, Rondleman. I mean, good one, ''my dog''. So, you goin' to Beach Themed Restaurant tonight? It's ladies' night! Music, dancing, they've got fake palm trees!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh yeah! I'd rather die!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Cooool, can I catch a ride? Pick me up at six. Ooh, and bring plenty of cash. I'm gonna need at least five or six appe"teasers".

'''STRONG BAD:''' Will you just get out of here and let me finish these spreadsheets?!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You're not done yet? I finished mine weeks ago. Let me give you a hand.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Eeroww, don't touch that!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{leans in and bangs his face on the keyboard}'' Ehh, doo doo doo doo doo doo doo.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh? Ohh, ''great!''

''{The computer produces a blue screen, reading:}''

<blockquote class="short email" style="background:#2222FF; text-align:center">Flamboyant System Error 
 
3rd Qtr. Projection= Bad News</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''This is just great!!''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah! You can thank me later. I love that blue screen. It is also my dog. Anyways, I'll let you finish up here. See you at six!

''{Homestar swoops out.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ohhh, man! Now I gotta start all over—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{swoops in}'' Don't be late! ''{swoops out}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Start all over an—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{swoops in}'' Ladies' night! ''{swoops out}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Start all ove—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{swoops in}'' Fake palm trees! ''{swoops out}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Start all o—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{swoops in}'' You're my dog. ''{swoops out}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ohhh! ''{bangs his head on the keyboard repeatedly}'' Stupid! Third! Quarter! Projection! Analysis! Spreadsheets that don't even know what you are! Rondleman... erh, where art thou? ''{slides onto the floor with a thud}''

''{"end."}''

== Easter Eggs ==
[[Image:dullard bizcasfri.PNG|thumb|right|220px|A meet n' greet?]]
*Click on the comic strip in the background when Strong Bad says, "Your ''doge?!''" to see a [[Dullard (comic)|Dullard]] comic strip.
:'''PANEL ONE:'''
:''{Dullard is working at his computer.}''
:'''WOMAN:''' MISSED YOU AT THE OFF SITE MEET N' GREET 
:'''PANEL TWO:'''
:'''DULLARD:''' ''{irritated}'' THAT'S FUNNY. I DIDN'T MISS YOU AT THE MY HOUSE SIT N' DRINK. 
:'''PANEL THREE:'''
:'''WOMAN:''' ''{storming off}'' HMPH! 
:'''PANEL FOUR:'''
:''{Dullard looks more irritated.}''
:'''CO-WORKER:''' MISSED YOU AT THE OFF SITE MEET N' GREET 
:'''PANEL FIVE:'''
:''{Dullard bangs his head on his computer.}''
:'''BALD MAN:''' ''{holding pieces of paper}'' MISSED YOU AT THE OFF SITE MEET N' GREET 
:'''PANEL SIX:'''
:'''COMB-OVER MAN:''' WHAT'S THIS I HEAR ABOUT A SIT N' DRINK AT YOUR PLACE?
*Click on the note at the top-left of the cubicle wall when Homestar says, "Beach Themed Restaurant" to see the menu of the restaurant.

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===
*The [[Sticky Notes|sticky note]] on the wall reads "ASAP!!!", which is an acronym for "As Soon As Possible."

===Remarks===
*''Doge'' was the title given to the rulers of the Italian city-states of [[Wikipedia:Doges of Venice|Venice]] and [[Wikipedia:Doges of Genoa|Genoa]].
*Strong Bad seems to have a Tandy Radio Shack 80 2 (TRS-80 II) as his office computer.
*The computer monitor Strong Bad is sitting at is an Apple IIe monitor, given away by its adjustable viewing angle screen.
*Unlike most of the other features on homestarrunner.com, this was released on a Friday. Normally, everything is released on Monday (except the [[Quote of the Week]], the [[Sketchbook]], and the [[Weekly Fanstuff]]). This is most likely because of "Business Casual Friday".

===Goofs===
*After Homestar bangs his head on Strong Bad's keyboard, the "ASAP!!!" note is relocated. After the computer displays the system error message, the sticky note is back in its original place.
*After the Flamboyant System Error appears, the next cut shows the computer monitor from an angle. While Homestar is saying "Anyways, I'll let you finish up here. See you at six!", twice you can see Strong Bad's head go ''behind'' the superimposed image of the error screen.

===Inside References===
*The title of this toon stands for "Business Casual Fridays" and comes from the email [[other days]].
*"Flamboyant System Error" is a reference to the "[[Flagrant System Error]]" of the emails [[50 emails]] and [[virus]].
*"3rd Qtr. Projection= Bad News" is a reference to "Virus = Very Yes." in [[virus]].
*On the upper part of the screen, you can clearly see the "Remember the 'Tivities" motivational poster from [[no loafing]].
*The fake palms are from "Fake Palms Resort" in the sketchbook on the [[DVD]].
*The Dullard comic strip first appeared in [[dullard]].
*Homestar is wearing the same brown shirt he wore in other days' version of Biz Cas Fri.

== External Links ==
* [[HR:bizcasfri1.swf|view the Flash file for "Biz Cas Fri"]]
* [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=4000 forum thread re: "biz cas fri"]

[[Category: Puppet Stuff]]
[[Category: Homestar Runner Filmography]]
[[Category: Strong Bad Filmography]]

Tooty-two

2005-05-25T20:15:33Z

Lunar Jesters: Twenty two could be a million less than tooty-two. If you assume...

[[Image:tootyfruitytwo.png|thumb|Tooty-two: less than tooty-three.]]
'''Tooty-two''' is a random number that keeps popping up in various places. It is sometimes included in a phone number, a price tag, and so on. It also might be a vague reference to [http://www.petcaretips.net/sally_brown_peanuts.html Sally Brown] of ''Peanuts'' fame, who has been quoted as insisting, "Two times two is tooty-two; three times three is threety-three; four times four is four-forty-four."

==Sightings==
*In [[lackey]], Bubs informs The Cheat that his total comes out to "fifteen tooty-two."
*In the [[Homestar Quiz]], tooty-two is one of the proposed answers to how many melonades Homestar drank.
*In [[Strong Bad Sings]], you can order your copy of the album by calling 1-800-428-64 tooty-two.
*On the [http://homestarrunner.com/email.html contact] page, one of the zip codes is 642T2. When read aloud, 2T2 is pronounced "tooty-two."
[[Category: Inside Jokes]]

Sightings

2005-05-09T01:17:24Z

Lunar Jesters: No.

{{cleanup}}

Homestar is slowly taking over the world, as shown by some of these documented sightings.

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== TELEVISION ==
=== ''Aaron's 499 (NASCAR Nextel Cup Series, May 1, 2005)'' ===

An announcer described a 17-car wreck as "crazy go nuts."

=== ''Angel'' ===
In a season five episode of ''Angel'' entitled "The Girl In Question," (also entitled "An Italian job for Spike and Angel") Angel and Spike were looking for Buffy overseas. They arrived at the apartment where Buffy lives, but Andrew was the only one there. He was talking to them about someone named "The Immortal," and he was wearing a black Strong Bad t-shirt. Later in the episode, Andrew wore the same SB shirt with a pore strip plastered on his nose.

Incidentally, Andrew is the very same character who appeared in the Trogdor-laden ''Buffy'' reference. Since both shows are the brainchildren of creator/writer/executive director Joss Whedon, we can probably assume that the creator of the Buffyverse is also a fan of Homestarverse.

=== ''Buffy'' ===
In the series finale of Buffy the Vampire Slayer (Ep 7x22) Trogdor was used as a creature in a game of Dungeons and Dragons. The following is a transcript of the reference.

GILES: I'm — I'm — I'm all turned around. You're here?

XANDER: By the pillar, yeah. I'm protecting this area.

GILES: That puts me over by the door. Demons around the perimeter. Right! I open the door.

Pan over to show Andrew is also at the table, but he's wearing a red hooded cloak.

ANDREW: (reading from a book) You go through the door and are confronted by Trogdor the Burninator.

GILES: Oh, bugger it. Fight. (rolls dice, sips wine)

ANDREW: Adios to 5 hit points. Trogdor has badly wounded you.

GILES: Well, wait a minute. What about my... (puts on glasses) bag of illusions?

ANDREW: (scoffs) Illusions against a Burninator? Silly, silly British man. (Giles sips his wine again)

AMANDA: I invoke a time flux on Trogdor.

ANDREW: (looks at Amanda) Step down, girlfriend, you can't just —

AMANDA: Ninth level sorcerer, and I carry the emerald chalice. Trogdor is frozen in time. Deal with it. (writes something down)

=== ''Cheat'' ===
On one episode of Cheat on G4TechTV, they were talking about a name generator on "Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic" and if you made names long enough, Homsar's name would show up.

=== ''CNN Student News'' ===

On CNN Headline News, there is this short news magazine called [http://cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/fyi/index.html/ CNN Student News]. On the December 15th 2004 edition, in one of the stories it shows what appears to be a trooper in Iraq getting a toy for Christmas from someone. The toy is a The Cheat plush toy.

===''Codename: Kids Next Door''===
On the Kids Next Door episode T.R.A.I.N.I.N.G. Numbuh 60's destination is their moon base, yet he calls it [[The Moon]] in a similar way as a soy-sauce drunk Strong Bad did in the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[personal favorites]] and [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]].

=== ''d'FUSED'' ===

March 12th, 2005 at approximately 1:20 pm 
Featured on ''' Addict'd to Gaming''' 
A segment on Red Vs. Blue showed the cast of Homestar Runner in their real-world, plastic figurine state atop the preview monitor for a Red Vs. Blue episode.

=== ''Daytona 500 2005'' ===

In the 2005 Daytona 500, an announcer was heard to refer to the occasion as "Crazy Go Nuts" several times over the week.

==="Firefly"===
On the Complete Series DVD commentary on the episode, "War Stories," Alan Tudyk (the actor who plays Wash )reffered to a character on the show as "Crazy Go Nuts."

===''Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends''===
[[Image:Bloostar.PNG.PNG|thumb|100px|This speaks for itself]]
During the episode "Bloo's Brothers" a Bloo clone that looks freakishly similar to Homestar appears. It's only brief so blink and you'll miss it! If you have "TiVo" you can slow it down a bit.

The episode "A Sight For Sore Eyes" is very similar to [[Old Intro 2]] at the ending.

===''G4tv.com''===
On [http://www.g4tv.com/g4tv/episodes/3888/Men_are_from_World_of_Warcraft_Woman_are_From_The_Sims.html this episode] of G4tv.com on G4, an unnamed person, playing the role of Laura Foy's date, was seen wearing a "[[Trogdor (character)|Trogdor]]" shirt.

The strange, but funny, videoclip, entitled Gamer Dating Do's And Don'ts is now available for viewing at [http://www.g4tv.com/mediaplayer/index.aspx?video_key=9033 this location.]

===''The Geek Show''===
On "[http://www.thegeekshow.com/ The Geek Show]", Strong Bad Emails are frequently shown as an example of "What's funny on the internet." They have played both "[[japanese cartoon]]" and "[[dullard]]" on their show.

===''Hi Hi Puffy Ami Yumi''===
In "Rock and Roe", Yumi said, "Ami, I don't know where my head is at!", as a reference to [[Where My Hat is At?]].

=== ''Invader Zim'' ===

In the episode "Gaz, Taster of Pork," On the Frankin Chokie box there is a picture of Bubs' head on the side.

===''Junkin''===
On the television show [http://www.turnersouth.com/network/shows/junkin/ Junkin'], the host "Dave" has appeared wearing Trogdor and Strong Bad T-shirts.

===''NFL Films: Game of the Week ('05 NFC Divisional Championship St Louis Rams Vs. Atlanta Falcons)''===
About three-quarters through this hour-long recap of the game, a Falcons' victory, one of the defensive linemen for Atlanta, Patrick Kearny, points to his family in the stands. One of them is holding up a sign that says "GOOD JORB!", an unmistakable reference to [[Coach Z]].

=== ''Megas XLR'' ===
In an episode called "Breakout", Coop tried to use an attack called Double Deuce by jumping and putting two fists in front of him.

=== ''Monster House'' ===
In an episode of Monster House called "[http://www.tvtome.com/MonsterHouse/season1.html#ep18 Sports House]," the host Steve is wearing a Strong Bad T-shirt during the introductions. This episode first aired February 2, 2004.

=== ''Pulse Interview'' ===
In early 2004 the show Pulse on G4TechTV talked with the Brothers Chaps, and asked them about their new game that they are developing for the Atari 2600. They showed many video clips of their Atari game. The Chaps told about how they record their voices and how successful they have been. They announced that later this year they are going to release a DVD with the First 100 emails. Later after the commercial break they went to interview the company that is developing the Homestar Runner game. The company was Videlectrix of course. The whole interview was weird because you could tell that the Videlectrix owner was just one of the Brothers Chaps in a mustache but the whole making an Atari game was real.

===''The Screen Savers''===
On an episode of The Screen Savers on G4TechTV there was a guest on there that knows how to make Atari 2600 games and he is making a [[Homestar Runner RPG]], which is still in development.

The [http://www.g4techtv.com/screensavers/episodes/3848/Home_Star_Runner_eXeem_LA_Auto_Show.html January 24th episode] of The Screen Savers had [[Screen Savers Interview - 24 Jan 2005|an interview]] with [[The Brothers Chaps]]. Also featured on this episode, puppet Strong Bad made his debut to answer questions from fans. The article also mentions that in order to learn more than one ever thought possible about [[Homestar Runner (flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]], one can head over to the Homestar Runner Wiki.

=== ''Super Size Me'' ===
In the movie ''[[IMDb:tt0390521|Super Size Me]]'', there are a group of kids at the computer where one is watching an old Tandy era Strong Bad Email.

=== ''Survivor: Pearl Islands'' ===
When Ryan Shoulders (known on the show as Ryan S.) picks up some tree mail (the show's system of getting messages to the castaways), he sings the opening to SB Email [[techno]], singing it as "the tree mail, the tree mail, what, what, the tree mail." This may also explain Ryan S.' name appearing in the email "[[theme park]]".

=== ''The Tonight Show with Jay Leno'' ===

Leno was showing examples of absurd eBay auctions and having the audience guess whether they sold or not. One of them was a laptop that had been shot with a shotgun. It's subject line said "LIKE USED! SLIGHTLY SHOTGUNNED!" from [[virus]]. It sold.

===''Who's line is it Anyway?''===
Drew Cary said once "This next skit is for everybody, everybody!"

=== ''X-Play'' ===
On an episode of G4TechTV's X-Play, the wrestling game "WWE: Day of Reckoning" is reviewed, and when the "create your own wrestler" mode is being demoed, the created wrestler (presumably created for the show, not by the game's developers) looks suspiciously like Strong Bad, and appears to be named alternately "SB" and "Essbee". You can see the [http://porplemontage.com/media/XPLAY_SB.wmv video here].

== RADIO ==
=== ''Quizno's and Homestar on NPR'' ===
On March 9th 2004, Homestarrunner.com was featured on NPR's Talk of the Nation. You can find the radio segment [http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1753401 here]. You have to listen a little bit to get to the segment. It features [[kind of cool]], as well as the email [[different town]]. It starts around 9:15 into the clip and lasts until the end.

=== ''The Rock''===
There was also a quote from [[Strong Bad]]'s character page on a La Crosse, Wisconsin radio station called "95.7 The Rock." It goes from the part
where strong bad says, "Ladies form a line to my left for makeouts! Dudes, form a line to my right for high-fives," and stops at the part where Homestar says, "Well, I was going to get a high-five, but I see that I'm already here."

=== ''Q98'' ===
On Q98- 98.7 (a radio station in Fargo, ND/Moorhead, MN), The DJ, Stash, said something about checking out something on their website, and he said "... at q98.net, its dot com." Which could be an obvious reference to the First Time Here cartoon where Homestar says "Welcome to HomestarRunner.net ... It's dot com!"

== ADVERTISING ==
=== ''Soap Box Commercial'' ===
A Soap Box racing commercial on Cartoon Network decorated a car with Teen Girl Squad.

=== ''SMS Advert'' ===
On a picture messaging advertisement in NZ/Aus, while it flicks through various picture messages/cell phone wallpapers, a picture of Trogdor pops up.

===U.S Air Force Website Ad===

A U.S Air Force ad on http://cube.ign.com features a picture of a man playing guitar. He is wearing a Trogdor t-shirt.

===Bernardin Print Ad===

A national print campaign in Canada for Bernardin home canning featured a young woman wearing a Trogdor T-shirt.

===AdultSwim Ad===

Anyone familiar with the Cartoon Network is definitely aware of how they promote their AdultSwim line-up: by answering viewer email during the 15 sec B&W spots called "Bumps". During a late-night AdultSwim bump, one viewer wrote in with this question: "How do you type with boxing gloves on?"

===Numb Thumbs Ad===

A TV spot for the Video Game store/website [http://www.numbthumbs.com Numb Thumbs] featured a man wearing a Fluffy Puff T-Shirt

== MAGAZINES ==

=== ''SBC Skateboard'' === In an issue last year, Ryan Stutt said that he totally ripped off Strong Bad for a Sick Of It All review.

===''Pottery Barn Teen Catalog''=== In an issue of Pottery Barn Teen, there is a picture taken in a boys room where a strongbad bumper sticker is on the wall. The bumper sticker is one that can be bought in the [[Store]]

=== ''Game-Now Magazine'' ===
The now-defunct Game-Now magazine featured Homestar Runner as "Hot" in the "Hot or Not" section of its Issue 12. ([http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5953/gamennow1.jpg Scan])

=== ''Wired Magazine'' ===
In Wired magazine, under a Transformers ad, It showed a picture of Homestar's new Atari game and some more stuff.

=== ''Computer Source Magazine'' ===
In Seattle there's a magazine called "Computer Source." The January 2004 issue mentions a group of people who, for fun, determined how many browser windows they could open to homestarrunner.com before the computer crashed.

=== ''More Wired Magazine'' ===
[[They Might Be Giants]] were interviewed and talked about Homestar and the [http://homestarrunner.com/expfilm.html Experimental Film toon], among other things.
Read it [http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.07/play.html here]

=== ''Entertainment Weekly'' ===
In 2003, Entertainment Weekly proclaimed The Brothers Chaps were the "It Web Cartoonists" as part of their annual "It List," which names off who they consider to be the most significant entertainers of the year. They asked Matt whether or not they would ever consider putting Strong Bad and Homestar on TV, to which he replied: "It's more punk rock if you do it yourself." This article also mentioned the upcoming DVDs.

===Tucson Weekly===
[http://www.tucsonweekly.com Tucson Weekly] had [http://www.tucsonweekly.com/gbase/music/Content?oid=oid:59640 an interview] of [[They Might Be Giants]] in their August 19, 2004 issue that included information on their relationship with [[The Brothers Chaps]]. Of particular note was the corroboration that a special [[Experimental Film]] video was being made for MTV. However, a new development is that the current internet version "is getting played on MTV in England, so it is finding some legitimate video life."

===Time Magazine===
On June 30, 2003, Time Magazine ran a short article called [http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/archive/0,10987,1101030630-460201,00.html "A Star Is Born - On The Web"] which featured a picture of Homestar from [[Where's The Cheat?]], and said he was part of a funny cartoon website, namely [http://www.homestarrunner.com homestarrunner.com]. The article also mentions [[Strong Bad]], and compares Homestar and his friends to a post-modern [[Wikipedia:Peanuts| Peanuts]] gang. ([http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,1005126,00.html preview of the article])

===Muse Magazine===
In their article about Dragons, they had the URLs for "Trogdor" the game and "Dragon" the email.

===Hyper sighting===
Is australia there is a magazine called Hyper, it's a electronics magazine, and H*R was featured is the special section. It had written "Dear readers, please go to homestarrunner.com before i beat the everloving snot out of you. sincerely, hyper

== BANDS AND MUSIC ==

=== ''Karl Olson/Ultraklystron'' ===
[http://www.ampcast.com/music/4979/artist.php Karl Olson](Also known as Ultraklystron) recorded two homestar-related songs, a cover of [[The Skate Party]] song [http://www.ampcast.com/LST-67826-mus-128-5890398-0-0-0-DLDLZTREGXSJDLGXDL/Ultraklystron__Strong_Sad_Rocks_Out_Original_by_the_Skate_Party.m3u Strong Sad Rocks Out]and an original song, [http://www.ampcast.com/LST-67834-mus-128-5890398-0-0-0-DLDLZTREGXSJDLFQO/Ultraklystron__Hes_Homsar.m3u He's Homsar].

=== ''Strong Bad Live!'' ===
On June 7th, 2003 at Giants Stadium, Radiohead, the Beastie Boys, and other big name bands of that sort played, but the best part was the showing of Strong Bad emails over the JumboTron in between acts. They also showed [[Everybody to the Limit]] and it had a special new introduction wherein Strong Bad complained that he wasn't allowed on stage even though he had been the #1 hit for two summers in a row.

=== ''Beastie Boys 2004 Pageant Tour'' ===
On December 16th 2004 at the Zenith in Munich, Germany, the Beastie Boys used two JumboTron screens on the left and right side of the stage to present to the crowd the first one and a half minutes of [[Everybody to the Limit]]. Even though most of the listeners might have never heard of Homestar Runner or Strong Bad the crowd was cheering and clapping their hands rhythmically with the music.
''Everybody to the Limit'' and other Homestar Runner footage might have been part of other Beastie Boys shows during the 2004 Pageant Tour, but no other sightings were reported up until now.
The JumboTron screens were an essential part of the show and were also used during the concert to show live footage of the stage as well as other pop culture reference material like accelerated footage of some Atari 2600 video games gameplay such as Frogger's and scenes from Battlestar Galactica (during their song '''Intergalactic''').

=== ''Relient K'' ===
*The band Relient K has a h*r-like shirt logo.

*They also link to h*r from their [http://www.relientk.com website]

[http://millionmanmerch.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=RK00034&Category_Code=rk_shirts site that sells the shirt]

[http://millionmanmerch.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/rk_homestar_blue.jpg rk_homestar_blue.jpg]

=== ''Thursday'' ===

The band Thursday thanks Homestarrunner.com in the booklet to their latest album entitled War all the Time.

[http://www.islandrecords.com/thursday/index.las Thursday]

=== ''Mindless Self Indulgence'' ===

Strongbad's Techno beat and Everybody to the limit was played at the Metro in Chicago Illinois, at a Mindless Self Indulgence concert. The songs were played while the bands equipment was being set up. Also, after the show, I overheared the lead singer commenting about a strongbad shirt a fan was wearing. He continued to talk about how he had seen Homestar in Spin magazine the day before.

[http://www.mindlessselfindulgence.com/ Mindless Self Indulgence]

=== ''Five Iron Frenzy'' ===
The Christian ska band Five Iron Frenzy has a picture in their latest CD release's booklet of their lead singer, Reese Roper, wearing a The Cheat shirt.

During their performance at the [http://www.cornerstonefestival.com/ 2003 Cornerstone Music Festival], the lead singer asked the crowd if they were "ready to achieve burnination".

Also in the CD Booklet, in their Thank Yous, Andy thanks Strong Bad.

=== ''Very Low Sodium Band!'' ===
An online band, The Very Low Sodium Band ([http://www.verylowsodium.com www.verylowsodium.com]) has a song that praises Homestar Runner. Hear the song [http://www.verylowsodium.com/band/ Here].
Guitarist and singer Michael Sanders then went on to start a band, [http://salsa.ioioio.net/ Salsa Commodity]. This band did a live version of the song, which is on their album, [http://www.cdbaby.com/salsacommodity Official Homemade Ice Cream].

=== ''Tripleside'' ===
Tripleside ([http://www.tripleside.net www.tripleside.net]) wrote a song called "Legitimate Business" as an homage to Homsar, including many classic Homsar quotes. You can download the song from their [http://www.tripleside.net/downloads.html downloads page] or read the lyrics [http://www.tripleside.net/lyrics/legitbiz.html here].

=== ''ApologetiX'' ===
In the booklet for ApologetiX's newest CD "Adam Up," their guitarist is wearing a Strong Bad shirt. Also, at a show in Cincinnati, Ohio, the guitarist, Karl, wore his Strong Bad shirt (the mask shirt). In the booklet, he is wearing the full body shirt. He's got both!

=== ''Sons of Pitches'' ===
The Ithaca, NY band [http://sonsofpitches.com Sons of Pitches] had a concert at the Cornell Business & Technology Park on July 24, 2004. Before their second set started, they were doing the thing at the end of the Theme Park where Homestar is on the Strongbadian Riverboat Super-fun ride. It sounded like Strong Bad including the line "Please keep your arms legs and valuables inside the vehicle at all times".

=== ''Time For Living''===
The San Francisco hardcore punk band [http://hardcoremusic.com/tfl/main.html Time For Living] has a Homestar themed album with the title track "The Cheat is not Dead". They have songs called "Discount Brick", "Just A Friendly Reminder", "Population: Tire", and "The King Of Town." Beyond the titles, the songs don't have any relationship to Homestar Runner, which for legal reasons is good for the band.

=== ''Salsa Commodity'' ===
[http://salsa.ioioio.net Salsa Commodity] released the song A Tribute to Homestar Runner "Live" on their debut album, [http://www.cdbaby.net/salsacommodity Official Homemade Ice Cream]. Before all this, guitarist and singer Michael Sanders made a song about Teen Girl Squad, which can be found in the [http://salsa.ioioio.net/music2.html old music] section of the site. There is also a sort of Trogdor cover there, using the singing from the email.

=== ''KJ-52'' ===
On his new album, "Behind the Muzik (A Boy Named Jonah)", Christian rapper KJ-52 lists Homestar Runner in his song "Things I Like."

=== ''The Planet Smashers'' ===
The hidden 13th track on [http://www.planetsmashers.net The Planet Smasher's] "Mighty" album proclaims "Trogdor!"

== GAMES ==

=== ''Counter-Strike'' ===
In some Counter-Strike servers there is a message that comes up saying "(username) was burninated by Trogdor, er by (username)"

=== ''Toontown Online'' ===
Far into the game you meet some one Coach Zucini that sais "You can call me coach Z"

=== ''Custom Robo'' ===
A little way through the game there is a quiz on basic game knowledge. One of the (wrong) answers to a multiple-choice question is "Parts Burninator".

===''Amazing Island''===
On page 9/10 of the manual, there are instructions on creating a new character. Whoever took the picture had named his character Homestar.

===''Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic''===
One of the default name choices at the beginning is "Homsar Star".
Hmm, Brave Jedi Knight that one be...
"Kerrek" will show up as well.

=== ''Cyborg Livestock Outer Space'' ===
If you defeat the alien mothership from Shockwave's [http://www.shockwave.com/sw/content/cyborglivestock Cyborg Livestock from Outer Space], the end text says that the ship "asplode," just as your head does in the game [[StrongBadZone]].

=== ''World of Warcraft'' ===
Homestarrunner.com appears in the "Additional Thanks" section of the credits. [http://img65.exs.cx/img65/1446/creditsref3rc.jpg Screenshot]

In Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne, a guard at Jaina's cell is named "Trogdar".

=== ''X-Men Legends'' ===
"Strong Bad and Friends" are thanked in the "Special Thanks" section of the End Credits.

=== ''Kings of Chaos'' ===
When your army wins a battle, one of the phrases is "You burninated the enemy!" Likewise, when your army is beaten, one of the phrases is "The enemy burninated your army!"
[http://www.kingsofchaos.com Kings of Chaos]

===''Urbz Sims in the City''===
One of the Xizzles you can get is called 'All up ons' a reference to [[suntan]]

=== ''Final Fantasy I & II: Dawn of Souls'' ===
A man in Hellfire Chasm says "This is private property. Trespassers will be burninated."

In Whisperwind Cove one of the items you obtain in one of the floors from a dwarf is called 'Witches Brew"

(Both these areas were exclusively for the GBA version of the games, and were not on the original copies for the NES.)

=== ''The Kingdom of Loathing'' ===
On [http://www.kingdomofloathing.com/ The kingdom of loathing], when you smash the hippy stone at the campground you will go to player vs player combat. One of the ways to attack a player is to "BURNINATE".

In The Barrel Full Of Barrels, one of the events is entitled "Your Barrel A Splode".

In The Hidden Temple, one of the events is entitled "Arrowed!".

In the chat function, the chat command '/baleet username' carries out the same affect as '/ignore username'.

The item "Marzipan Skull", in its name (Sort of), picture(Probably) and description, are references to Marzipan. The description says, "You were afraid this thing came out of a girl who looks like a broomstick with a wig and a skirt, but really it's just compressed sugar and almond extract."

=== ''Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas'' ===
Driving around Las venturas, one can find a [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Jnetzlof/bubs2.gif "Bub's Hardware."] The sign also seems to say something about "Cheats." A map is included [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Jnetzlof/bubs.gif here.] "maybe a sighting"

=== ''Adventure Quest'' ===
In the free flash RPG [http://www.battleon.com Adventure quest], occasionally when a guardian summons the guardian dragon, the dragon will say: "BURNINATE!!! (Please don't sue us)"

=== ''Tony Hawk's Underground'' ===
In the Moscow level, if you jump into a certain chimney, you die and the screen gives you a message. One of the messages is "BURNINATED!".

In the Vancouver level, when you drive the limo, the license plate on the back of it says "LimoZeen".

=== ''Neverwinter Nights'' ===
New NWN patches have demo modules that illustrate creatures that have been added in those patches. These modules, created by Jay Watamaniuk, tend to be a bit silly in tone. The demo module included in v1.64, [http://nwn.bioware.com/downloads/module_demo_landsea-puma.html Land Sea-Puma], has a signpost with following directions:
: North - Certain Dhoom
: East - Most Likely Dhoom
: West - Fair to Excellent Conditions for Dhoom
: Dennis - Ye Will Find Nothing of Yon Interest Here Aye

=== ''Goblin Commander: Unleash the Horde'' ===
In the credits it says "Additional Thanks To: Strongbad"

=== ''Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines'' ===
The fuel tank for the flamethrower is identified as "Burninator" brand.

== SKINS ==

=== ''Winamp Skins'' ===
One of the available skins at Winamp.com is [http://www.winamp.com/skins/details.php?id=143048 "Tandy AMP 400"]. Other SB skins - [http://www1.1001skins.com/skin_details.html?skin_id=3104 "Compy 386"], [http://www1.1001skins.com/skin_details.html?skin_id=3201 "Teen Girl Squad"], and [http://www.winamp.com/skins/details.php?id=144394 "The Cheat's iMac"]. Also, if you find the SMB3 skin, you'll find the songs from Strong Bad Sings on the preview's playlist. Whoever made that skin must have bought the CD from the [[Store]].

== OTHER SITES ==

===History of the Internet===
The "archivists" make a reference to H*R, saying that because of them, "The internet is finally given purpose".

[http://www.bordergatewayprotocol.net/jon/humor/internet_history/ History of the Internet]

===Neopets===
Neopets once released a new avatar with the caption "Your Lupe A Splode" which is an obvious reference to [[video games]] and [[Strong Bad Zone]]
http://images.neopets.com/neoboards/avatars/yourlupeasplode.gif

[http://www.neopets.com Neopets.com]

===Olde English===
In their [http://oldeenglish.org/general.html General Procrastination] sketch, Razin was holding off going to battle by going on the internet and watching the new Strong Bad Email. (which really wasn't even an email, he opened up the Strong Bad bio 'toon and the email menu.)

[http://oldeenglish.org Oldeenglish.org]

===G4tv.com===
The 404 message that comes up when the G4 site can't retrieve an ad includes a graphic featuring a panda - and the Teen Girl Squad-esque message "ERROR'ed!!"

==="Audition With Marzipan" Remix===
The Thilo run [http://www.ninjapirate.com/ The 2nd Best Page In The Universe] made a remix of "Thoughts Of A Bird" from the [[Audition With Marzipan]] game. A download of the remix is available [http://ninjapirate.com/data/Thilo-MarzipanTryout.mp3 here] And the article about it [http://www.ninjapirate.com/homestarrunner.html Here]

==="Asplode" on Double-Tongued Word Wrester===
Neolinguist Grant Barret has done an [http://www.doubletongued.org/index.php/comments/3102/ entry on "asplode"] on his site. It looks like "asplode" was not coined by the Brothers Chaps, but he agrees that its appearance in the toons and games is probably responsible for its recent popularity.

===All Your Base Are Belong To Homestar===
An "All Your Base" parody starring Homestar can be [http://www.sitesled.com/members/kewl0210/AYB.html seen here]

=== ''Weebl & Bob'' ===
*A fan made a piece of art with Trogdor burninating Bobs' style of animation
[http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/fanart/view.php?id=40# See It Here]

=== ''Bryan Waterman Interview'' ===
Bryan Waterman, who does the series "''[http://www.watermanstudios.com Waterman]''" had an interview and he mentioned the best internet cartoon was Homestar Runner!:
*'''Who is your favorite flash movie artist or flash artists if you have more than one? What are some of your favorite flash movie series?'''

'''BW''': Above all else Homestar Runner not only do I love the cartoon, Mike and Matt are two good friends of mine. Bonus Stage is another one I really like and I do look forward to Joseph's animations.
[http://www.medaverse.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=2&page=2 See It Here]

=== ''Eric Conveys The Brothers Chaps?'' ===
Eric at [http://www.emotioneric.com Eric Conveys an Emotion] got together with The Brothers Chaps for a rough and tumble game of football, complete with Eric's warped and hilarious sense of humour. See a step-by-step progression of [http://www.emotioneric.com/ae/?adv=thefootballgame The Game]. On page 1 Trogdor is in the background, on page 2 The Ugly One is in the background, on page 3 1936 Homestar is in the background, on page 4 Homestar is in the background, on page 5 Strongbad is in the background, on page 6, The Cheat is actually in the foreground, on page 7, The Cheat and Strong Mad are in the background, and on page 8, Stinkoman is in the background.
*Also, in "getting a great idea... while falling to your doom" Eric has a Homsar shirt on. [http://www.emotioneric.com/greatideafalldoom.jpg greatideafalldoom.jpg]

=== ''Red vs Blue'' ===
At [http://www.redvsblue.com Red vs Blue] they made a public service announcement about tattoos (It appears every 4 weeks or so in the season 1 archive). When Church suggests you get a tattoo of your favorite character from your favorite online comic (obviously referring to himself), Strong Bad's face appears on-screen instead.

A Strong Bad, and a Homestar sticker is also seen during the Red vs. Blue segment in the Halo 2 Limited Collectors Edition DVD, on the window of a door.

=== ''Live Action Dangeresque!'' ===
Some guys at Strongfans.com made [http://www.strongfans.com/stuff/dangeresque_sf.wmv this] awesome parody of Strong Bad's big-time blockbuster. Complete with orchestrated music!

=== ''The 2004 Cartoonist's Choice Awards'' ===
Homestar Runner won in best use of flash category at [http://www.ccawards.com/2004.htm "The 2004 Cartoonist's Choice Awards"].

=== ''BB-Spot-Which website are you?'' ===
In the [http://www.bbspot.com/News/2005/02/website_quiz.php website personality test] at www.bbspot.com, one of the [http://bbspot.com/News/2005/02/website_quiz_all.html posible answers] you can get is Homestarrunner.com.

=== ''newgrounds.com'' ===
If you search for Homestar on [http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/search.php?kind=j&terms=homestar New Grounds], there will be a bunch of fan made Homestar flash games and short films..

=== ''zone38'' ===
This [http://www.zone38.net/blog/2003/02/02/369/ blog entry] links to a [http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=419950 Fark Photoshop thread] which featured several Homestar Runner-related parodies of ''Magic: The Gathering'' cards, with local copies of the now-defunct images from the thread.

=== ''Google Blog'' ===
[http://www.google.com/googleblog/ Google Blog] mentioned the Homestarism 'Asplode' in [http://www.google.com/googleblog/2004/10/its-wonderful-digitallife.html this] entry.

=== ''Shoot the Cliche'' ===
A certain infamous burninator "Trogdor" appears in this game from another site.
[http://www.anothersite.co.uk/news.php?artc=131& Blast Away!]

=== ''Your phone a splode'' ===

The website [http://www.fark.com/ Fark.com] linked to a [http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=528&e=1&u=/ap/20041123/ap_on_hi_te/exploding_phones Yahoo News story] about exploding cell phones under the headline "Your phone a splode."

[[Image:headline_on_fark.png]]

Also, Fark linked to [http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/West/07/01/explodi]
[[Category:Real World]]

== OTHER ==
=== ''Hershey Park Face Paintings''===
At Hershey Park, you can get a face painting of Homestar, Strong Bad, Marzipan, Pom Pom, or The Cheat.

Senor Cardgage

2005-05-07T22:40:33Z

Lunar Jesters: Homestar isn't always reliable.

[[Image:Senor_Cartgage_Profile.PNG|thumb|right|100px|"No probalo!"]]

'''Senor Cardgage''' is a creepy guy that lived down the street from the Brothers Strong when they were little, and gave [[Strong Sad]] nightmares. Apparently he now runs [[Senor Cardgage Mort-gage|his own mortgage business]].

Some of his traits include:
* Suspiciously comes out of bushes and shrubs just as you walk by
* Always carrying an old plastic Aldi grocery bag of mysterious contents
* Eating melty chocolate bars while standing too close to you in lines
* Smells like pea soup (according to Homestar)

Senor Cardgage speaks in phrases that are almost one word but not quite another, like; "excardon me" and "exobably not." He'll also treat you like a girl, regardless of your gender.

When [[Strong Bad]] is asked what he would be like if he was not stylish and buff in the email "[[kind of cool]]", he describes [[Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad]] who is just like Senor Cardgage. Both are, at least to Strong Bad, "so cool, you don't even know [that they are] cool".

It is often debated whether Senor Cardgage and Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad are the same person or not, but it is notable that during the "[[Sketchbook (video)|Sketchbook]]" extra on the [[strongbad email.exe]] DVD, [[The Brothers Chaps]] refer to this character as Senor Cardgage.

Senor Cardgage apparently now lives near enough to the Brothers Strong to attend their [[garage sale]].

==Complete Filmography==
* Email [[kind of cool]] (debut)
* Email [[flashback]] (easter egg)
* [[Senor Mortgage]]
* [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]
* Email [[garage sale]]
[[Category: Characters]]

First Flash

2005-05-07T22:37:40Z

Lunar Jesters: Word choice.

[[image:firstflash.PNG|thumb|Boing boing boing...]]

Pom Pom bounces around.

'''Cast (in order of appearence):''' [[Pom Pom]]

== Fun Facts ==
*This is the first Homestar bit of Flash ever.
*Obviously, since this is the first Flash ever, Pom Pom was the first character ever animated in Flash, before [[Strong Bad]] or even [[Homestar Runner]], who you'd think would be first.

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/pompom.swf view the Flash file for "First Flash"]

[[Category:Early Work]][[Category:Pom Pom Filmography]]

User talk:Pomx2

2005-05-07T22:34:40Z

Lunar Jesters: Corrine?

Wait, are you Corrine? --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 22:34, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Tandy 400

2005-05-07T22:30:08Z

Lunar Jesters: We're forgetting The Bird.

[[Image:sbemail1.PNG|thumb|right|Strong Bad answering his first ever email with the Tandy]]
[[Image:Exploded_Tandy.PNG|thumb|right|<tt>YOUR TANDY A SPLODE</tt>]]
[[Image:Fixedished_Tandy.PNG|thumb|left|"I hate this computer."]]
[[Image:Salvaged_Tandy.PNG|thumb|right|Tandy 400! Slightly Not-Working - Only $900!!]]
[[Image:Garbage_Tandy.PNG|thumb|right|"Why Strong Bad? Why?"]]
[[Image:Ghost_Tandy.PNG|thumb|left|"Ooh, lookit that! Little...bad graphics ghost."]]

The '''Tandy 400''' was [[Strong Bad]]'s first computer. He answered emails reliably using it until the 33rd email "[[gimmicks]]," when it exploded.

After using [[Tangerine Dreams]] to check his email during "[[weird dream]]," he got it working again in "[[sisters]]," although it was still misbehaving.

Strong Bad made do with the damage for a while until he returned from his vacation in "[[invisibility]]," replacing the Tandy 400 with the [[Compy 386]]. Tandy 400 made several disparaging remarks when it was thrown out, including: "386? More like three eighty SUCKS!"

Tandy 400 haunted [[Strongbadia]] for some time. The computer appeared floating in mid-air in "[[ghosts]]," displaying a [[Bad Graphics Ghost]] on its screen.

[[Bubs]] later salvaged the Tandy 400 and sold it to [[The King of Town]], who attempts to [[King of Town Email|check his email]] with it in an easter egg in [[The King of Town DVD]].

== Quick Facts ==

'''Debut''': "[[some kinda robot]]"

'''Interactive Feature''': You can click the contrast buttons in the lower-left corner to change the background color from black to green. The left button makes it darker and the right button makes it greener.

'''Death''': Exploded, but fixed until Strong Bad threw it out after his vacation in the e-mail [[invisibility]].

'''Replacement''': The [[Compy 386]], in the e-mail "invisibility".

'''Font''': [http://fonts.goldenweb.it/pan_file/l/it/font2/Westminster.ttf/d2/True_Type_Fonts/c/w/default.html Westminster]

== The Real Computer ==

[[Image:Really_Old_Tandy.PNG|thumb|Tandy 400 appearing in flashback form in [[personal favorites]]]]
[[Wikipedia:Tandy Corporation|Tandy Corporation]] is the name of the parent company of RadioShack, which helped to start the personal computer revolution with its [http://www.8bit-micro.com/model1.htm TRS-80] (affectionately known as the "Trash-80") in 1977. Tandy 400 probably gets its name from the [http://www.8bit-micro.com/tandy2000.htm Tandy 2000] and [http://www.8bit-micro.com/tandypc.htm 1000], Tandy's first [[Wikipedia:IBM PC compatible|"IBM-PC compatible"]] machines produced in 1984. However, Tandy never produced a "400" model, but [[Wikipedia:Atari|Atari]] produced an [[Wikipedia:Atari 8-bit family|Atari 400]] model in 1979, which was Atari's first (and weakest) personal computer.

The rainbow star logo on Tandy 400 is a play on an early [[Wikipedia:Apple Computer|Apple Computer]] logo which featured a rainbow-colored apple with a missing bite.

Some believe that the Tandy 400 is an Apple Computer due to the nature of the PROdos-like operating system and the monitor. In the [[strongbad email.exe|DVD]] commentary of "[[cartoon]]," Strong Bad refers to it as an "Apple monitor."

{{start box}}
{{Succession box | before = N/A | title = [[Strong Bad Emails]] | years = 1 - 23, 25 - 33, 35 - 41 | after = [[Compy 386]]}}
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[[Category:Computers]]

HRWiki:Recent changes patrol

2005-05-06T01:38:06Z

Lunar Jesters: Aw, what the heck.

Ever noticed a little red exclamation point next to an edit listed on the [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]] page? Did you know you can remove those exclamation points by patrolling edits? The idea is that having a group of people patrolling edits should reduce spam and vandalism.

To mark an edit as patrolled, click the "diff" link next to an unpatrolled edit, survey the edit to be sure it isn't spam or vandalism, then click the "Mark as patrolled" link near the top right of the page.

If you'd like to help out in the effort of patrolling recent changes, put your name on the list below. Adding your name to the list constitutes a commitment of time to patrolling. This page will serve as a hub for patrollers to get in contact with one another. Feel free to list any questionable edits at the bottom of this page to call them to the attention of other patrollers. For an example of how this page might serve our community, see the [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:RC patrol|Recent changes patrol]] on Wikipedia.

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* [[User:Lunar Jesters|Lunar Jesters]]
[[Category:HRWiki Committees]][[Category:HRWiki Maintenance]]

HRWiki talk:Old STUFF

2005-05-03T01:28:11Z

Lunar Jesters: Reply.

==Rant and Roar==

We need to move the "Fun Facts" debate/discussion/voting to the Talk pages of the specific articles. I now realize that this "Stuff" HRWIKI about page pure silliness.

By moving content discussion from the talk page to a common page we are simply no using the Wiki to its potential. If one gets a lack of response from a talk page, go ahead and make the change. BE BOLD.

'''-That is what the Talk page is for-'''

It has been said that many contributors will not check the talk page before making a change. Most everyone on the "Stuff" page are old hands. If newbies won't read the how-to why would they go to the "Stuff" page?

The popularity of the "Stuff" page is typical of a sloppy discussion forum and not an article based reference guide.

I think this will be an ongoing problem with this wiki because since the HR universe is finite, most of its content has already been catalogued. Still, many people want to contribute so we are left with an onslaught of "fun facts" and pointless articles on SB's Stool.

What we need is a Clean-Up page. Articles that need to be cleaned up for one reason or another are listed on the Clean-Up Page. This would include merge and redirects, and it could be used to flag pages with "fun fact" debates.

I think due to the nature of the "[[virus]]" email it will be a high water mark in the "did you notice that" department.

My 2 cents - [[User:Drhaggis|[[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]]]] 21:17, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

:Yes, that's what the talk page is for, but talk pages aren't organized. Sometimes when a problem gets big enough, a jury-rigged solution becomes less adequate. It's been pointed out that the STUFF page results in ''much'' more (and more precise) feedback than the use of talk pages does. In addition, for the first time we're all getting together and working out what makes a good fun fact. These things don't sound like "pure silliness" to me. The same argument can be made with Wikipedia and VfD: talk of deletion could just take place on the Talk page, but if they did it that way, it'd be spread too thin and much less would actually get done. Of course, a counterargument is that Wikipedia is much larger-scale, but I think the argument still applies since this is obviously doing good. As I've noted, by the way, people who wish to be bold can still just post their facts directly; there's just less of a chance that it'll be accepted. By the way, we could still use a clean-up page, but I think it needs to be separated from STUFF because of the potentially high volume. Time will tell... - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:02, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)

:Perhaps this has already been mentioned, but perhaps we should have individual STUFF fun facts on the talk pages of their respective pages under a subsection of their talk pages, and have links to talk pages that have STUFF'd items on this page. --[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]] 01:12, 27 Nov 2004 (MST)

::Counterargument: having everything on one STUFF page still makes it easier to maintain. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:02, 27 Nov 2004 (MST)

:::I find it hard to call a 44Kb long page full of decline/delete/accept/keep that no one wants to read through easy to maintain. That's why I recommend this page be used to link to discussion pages for the toons. As long as people actually use it, then this page will link to pages that list fun facts under consideration. If you hadn't noticed, clicking edit on the STUFF page leads to some warning akin to this: "WARNING: Most browsers will barf on this page. It is too long." It really is too long, and will likely only get messier as time goes on. --[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]] 11:14, 27 Nov 2004 (MST)

::Have you by any chance seen how long [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Votes for deletion|Wikipedia:Votes for deletion]] is? ;) Yes, I've noticed the warning but I don't consider it important, and it's not true that "most browsers" will barf on the page (especially not the important ones like MSIE, Netscape, and Firefox), just that some browsers will. I don't think it's too long. The important stuff is the votes themselves and there are fewer than one per line on average, and they are in bold, so it is very easy to glance at a fun fact and see how things are going for it. If a few days have passed and there's hardly anything but decline/decline/decline, then it's probably safe to just get rid of it. Speaking of, I decided that fun facts that do get rejected, along with their votes, should probably be moved to the according Talk page. There are a few fun facts with enough declines and enough time to have been voted on to know to get rid of them, so I will. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:00, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

:Adding the template <nowiki>{{disputed}}</nowiki> to any article under the "Fun Facts" banner will have the same affect as this unwieldy "Stuff" page. Vfd on Wikipedia is grouped together because only admins can delete and they need to track the results of polls. Admins are not here to "approve" every fun fact: they are here to administrate. The community decides content, and as the [[Wikipedia:Be Bold|style and How-to guide]] explains, that is what the talk page is for. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 21:20, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)

::I agree with [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] on this one. Perhaps this should be a Wiki-decision poll on the Forum? This page is great (I especially love the S.T.U.F.F. acronym) but I really think using a boilerplate that alerts people to the dispute and points them to the talk page would be the most effective solution. [[User:JoeyDay|<nowiki></nowiki>]] —[[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] [[User talk:JoeyDay|(Talk)]] 13:24, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

:Perhaps each article should have a separate STUFF page. Which I guess is similar (if not exactly the same as) the Clean-Up page proposed above. A single STUFF page has become to large and difficult to use. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005

*'''Second''' It seems to me that the most user-friendly system would be to have a STUFF tab on the top of each page to have voting just about that page. [[User:Theving|Theving]]

==General Comments and Rants==
*I'm glad that we are finally addressing the crap fun fact issue. Whenever one sees the text "this may be a reference to...." it should just be cut. Not even voted on. If we don’t know, its not a fact. Speculate elsewhere.

:And we shouldn’t confuse '''running gags''' with '''references'''. When [[The Cheat's Head Exploding| The Cheat's head blows up]], or there is a new game title in the [[Floppy Disk Container]], those are running gags. When Strong Bad overtly mentions the email [[tape-leg]], that’s a reference. When something appears in the background from another toon or email, that is not a "reference". Nor is the reusing of sound effects a "reference". -[[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 16:02, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)

::I agree. A true classification system such as the one you present needs to be drawn up. This would help with the problem of internal Homestar Runner references. Do you think something similar would also aide us with external references to real-life things as well?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:30, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)

I totally agree. The reason they use the same backgrounds/items/sounds is because it's easier than making a new one. And also,something should only be considered a pop culture reference if it's an exact quote or almost an exact quote. Isn't it possible that it's just a coincidence they're similar?-[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

*When does a funfact become accepted or declined? After x votes? After x voting days? This is a great start, but it lacks structure. I think we have two days of voting. Comments/Suggestions/Did I not read something?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**Well, the idea was that the admins decide when something has had enough votes or been up long enough, though it doesn't have to be that way. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 21:19, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***Well, what's the point of voting if the admins decide whether or not the fun fact has had enough votes. They could then say that their one vote is enough to veto 50 other peoples. There needs to be a set procedure, otherwise this whole voting thing is pointless. -[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**Not necessarily. I think the admins can be trusted to use good judgement in deciding whether or not to accept or decline an item. If it turns out that most people don't agree, then we can change that. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 00:56, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
***Enter [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki_talk:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts#Fun_Fact_Confirmation_Committee_.28FFCC.29 my idea!]-- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 13:07, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

This comment could be a little bit out of place, but what about just creating a new "Running Gags" heading in emails? So, when The Cheat's head blows up or a new floppy disk appears, rather than it being listed in "Fun Facts," it would be listed in "Running Gags." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:29, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Starting to get on the wrong foot here... ==

First off, I'd like to revise the terms used for voting. Rather than "delete/keep", we should use "decline/accept" because we should mostly be voting on ''new'' fun facts, which brings me to my next point: already somebody has posted an item for [[little animal]], which is an old e-mail with very few fun facts. I think it'd be preferable to move the disputed item to the Talk page in that case. We don't want to get more bureaucratic than necessary, that is, this page is meant to be here for pages that ''need'' it.

Of course, we don't have to do things my way. I'm just communicating my original intent. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:22, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

:It seems to me that even pages like "virus" could have the fun fact voting on its talk page. -[[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 12:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

:I disagree, if disputed fun facts are just put on the Talk page, someone will just put it back with the facts, and then someone else will put it back in Talk, and it will just go back and forth. Unless you mean to set up a voting system in the Talk page. That would be alright, but I think that Select The Usable Fun Facts is better because users will know where to go about disputed fun facts, and if they were just on Talk, they might get overlooked. STUFF seems to be the better system. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]] 3:00, 22 Nov. 2004 (GMT)

:I agree with Ogog. This has happened to me a few times. You take an irrelevant fun fact off and then 5 minutes later it is back. I have also tried posting to the talk page to try to clear up some irrelevant fun facts, but never got a response (see [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]). -[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]

::The talk page is intended to discuss the merits of article content. I would think a discussion is more likely to be overlooked here, outside article space, than with the article itself. -[[User:Drhaggis|[[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]]]] 13:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

:::On the other hand, I believe this is already shown to be wrong because here there is both more breadth and more depth in fun fact discussions than there has ever been. (Discussions over "Yeah, no" don't count.) Clearly stuff's not getting overlooked. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:07, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)

:I agree that, for the most part, most old articles don't need it. However, with certain disputed facts like the little animal one, it may be necessary, as that fact has been argued up and down for so long that we need SOME sort of consensus on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:53, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

People that will ignore the voting on the Talk page will also ignore the voting on the STUFF page. If they won't read talk page why would they come here? Wikipedia has a 3 revert rule. If edits are going back and forth both parties risk being banned or frozen. - [[User:Drhaggis|[[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]]]] 16:28, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

:I think we should give this a chance. Like I said, NOBODY responded when I posted on the talk page of Halloween Fairstival. I posted on STUFF earlier today and have already had tremendous feedback. Which is strange, because you said that if people wouldn't go to the talk page, they wouldn't come here (yet you yourself have done just that). And, like you said, Wikipedia has a three revert rule. With STUFF, both parties don't have to be banned or frozen, only the party not following the vote. I don't think we should abandon this system after one day. Let's test it and see if it will work. -[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]

::I second Fuzzy. STUFF's voting system seems more objective than the flame-wars that can sometimes break out on Talk pages, and a lot of it has to do with the idea of having a predetermined set of votes. However, I am concerned that this page is getting really quite long already, and it's just two emails old. I have already nominated a fun fact that already had been nominated. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

== New Vote Type? ==

I've noticed a lot of Fun Facts that need to be moved to a different page, specifically about new features of the [[Lappy 486]] mentioned in the [[animal]] email. So, I suggest that there be a new vote type: '''Move.''' Certain fun facts aren't about the emails themselves, but are sort of a "big picture" type of fact. Any thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:19, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
:I'm not sure I can speak for everyone, but I like the idea. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:32, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)

::I second that. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 15:50, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)

::Second! Move to usable votes. That = [[User:thatkidsam|That!]] *Braaap*

== Time Limit? ==

There are a lot of fun facts which have been open to voting for over a month, and still haven't been resolved. While most of this page is very well organised, the final verdicts are not. I recommend a time limit for voting of a week or two after the fun fact was put up for debate. That way, we can keep the page from getting too cluttered and finally kill off some of the decaying polls put up months ago. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

*It's been a while since the Christmas Lights fun fact went up, and the votes seem about 50-50 in favor of the rewrite (if you count the people who voted for the original wording). So what does this mean? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 09:36, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
::I still think we need a time limit. Perhaps a week after the fun fact was put up, perhaps a few days after people stopped voting. We can't always count on people agreeing eventually, and if a consensus isn't reached within a reasonable amount of time, the majority should decide. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*I agree, there's actually a few facts of mine that have been on the page since it first appeared and I'm curious to know if they've been declined or accepted. -- [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 19:33, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Forward Referencing ==

I'm going through the Strong Bad Emails one by one, checking over them all. I'm finding lots and lots of "forward references" - which is to say, references to things that haven't happened yet. For example, stating in [[invisibility]] that "The Tandy line "I can make it on my own" is later used as a line for Li'l Brudder in [[crying]]" (which I deleted) is a forward reference. I do not like forward references - for instance, it would be far more appropriate to place that Fun Fact in crying rather than invisibility. Is it just me? Am I being too picky? Or should I add "forward referencing" to "examples of bad 'fun facts'"? (By the way, saying, "this is the first time xxx has happened" doesn't really constitute forward referencing in my eyes if xxx is relatively common later on, like Strong Bad's pronounciation of state abbreviations in [[depressio]].) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:52, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

:I don't have a problem with forward referencing (unless it gets as ridiculous and useless as other "Fun Facts" of late). Since the Wiki is the ultimate resource for all things Homestar Runner, some people come to the site specifically to find where certain quotes are reused. Say someone has just watched [[invisibility]], seen the "I can make it on my own," and they know it turns up again somewhere but for whatever reason their blanking on it. With forward referencing, they can find it easily, but without, it's probably going to drive them crazy as they search all the other e-mails one by one. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
:: Or they COULD just use the "search" feature... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:04, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

:: It's [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=%22i+can+make+it+on+my+own%22&go=Go real easy] to search. Forward referencing is bogus: Is the 5,000 year old soy food we call "tofu" a reference to [[The Luau]]? --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]

::: No, but I would expect to see [[Wikipedia:John Quincy Adams|John Quincy Adams]] mentioned on a page about [[Wikipedia:John Adams|John Adams]]. Earlier emails tend to be less cluttered with fun facts anyway. It seems wrong not to mention [[flashback]] on [[some kinda robot]]'s page. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 09:46, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)

:::: That's a historical fact, not trivia about a cartoon series. And the biggest difference is, John Adams did not suddenly cease to be the moment that JQA was born. And, to me, it seems wrong TO mention flashback on some kinda robot. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:56, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)

::::: I'm really not sure what you mean here by "John Adams did not suddenly cease to be", can you please clarify? [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 04:31, 24 Dec 2004 (MST)

:::::: Somewhat poor wording on my part, but I stand by the sentiment. I mean that Adams, Sr. did not die before Adams, Jr. was born. It would be difficult to tell the life story of Adams, Sr. without at least mentioning Adams, Jr., because the two's timelines overlapped. But if someone was writing a biography on George Washington, would they say "George Washington was the great-great-great grandfather of Terrance Washington"? (I made that name up, but you get the point.) Even if Terrance Washington was actually a famous person? No. You could very easily tell the whole story without ever mentioning Terrence. Maybe you could put this information in Terrance's biography, but it would have no place in George's. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)

: To be frank, my big problem with forward referencing is that it violates the [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] rule. Care to disagree with me on this one? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:24, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)

:: I think Once and Only Once is often overapplied, but that's a different discussion. The kind of references we are talking about here are little more than a link and some explanation of why that page relates to this one. I think something on [[guitar]] along the lines of "A line very similar to the last line of this song appeared in [[dragon]]" is informative and reasonable. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 04:28, 24 Dec 2004 (MST)

::: But what does it have to do with [[guitar]]??? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:56, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

: My goodness. There's a forward reference epidemic these days. It really bothers me, people. Does anyone at all besides beanluc agree with me? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:56, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

:: I know I don't. I find it can be nice to mention how they took aspects from one e-mail and then expanded upon them, for those not in the know. There's not really any NEED to purge the Wiki of links to e-mails that happened later, that kind of goes against the readability aspect of it all. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:21, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

::: It clutters the pages rather than adding to the readability. I mean, what should we do to [[japanese cartoon]], state that "Stinkoman appears again in (this) and (that) and (this other thing) and (something else) and..." It's easier to only refer backwards, so you only have to mention it once (per page)! And I ask again: what is wrong with the Search feature?! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:25, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)

::::More effort. It's easier to scroll down, see that this idea was expanded upon, think "hmm, I want to know more about this" and click a relevant link than it is to come upon the thought on your own, think "hmm, I want to know more about this" and then do a search for the term and spend time searching through numerous pages to find what it is you're looking for, or to hit Back, look throughout the list of e-mails for the e-mail you ''think'' has the pertainent information and look through that. Yes, I'm lazy, I know, I don't care. I know some people out there will be just the same.

::::That said, it's not that it shouldn't be done period, it's about what the content is. Posting links to everything Stinkoman's been in is better left to [[:Category:Stinkoman Filmography]] (to borrow from your own example), while mentioning that the VCR blinking 12:00 in [[stand-up]] was expanded upon in [[12:00]] is quite acceptable, IMO. That said, linking should probably be limited to one or two forward references to a specific detail at a time; any more, and it might as well have its own page and that should be linked to instead. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:58, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Who decides? ==

Awhile back I saw the STUFF page was quickly bloating, so I moved some of the unanimous declined facts to their appropriate Talk page. In the end, who has the authority to approve or decline a fact after X amount of time? I got back from vacation and again the STUFF page is heavily saturated, mostly with "un-fun" or "non-fact" funfacts that should have been deleted immediately instead of simply STUFFed.

In the end, who makes the decision? [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 21:54, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)

:Exactly what I've been wondering, hence my proposal that the majority decide after a certain amount of time. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

I've decided to be bold and archive anything started in November from which a clear outcome could be gathered (all permutations of "accept" combined are not a majority or one permutation has more votes than all others combined). I've moved them to the archive page because that was the first choice shown, and I've put comments on anything I didn't move that was started in November. I also checked/updated the wiki pages for consistency with the result.

I'm proposing that we base the question of whether the fun fact can be added or removed without concluding the voting on the number of votes in favor of a particular outcome, <s>and that we archive en masse for a particular time period (say, every week or so, we archive everything older than 2 or 3 weeks). It's too difficult to determine when a particular fun fact was added to base decisions of what to do about it on that (unless we use the "history" page to look for things added in a certain date range)</s>. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 18:50, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

*sighs* The discussion above says two weeks. I'm going to wait a few days and then, if I don't get any major objections (barring comments about where the archived fun facts should go), I'm going to start checking for facts that were added over 2 weeks ago and archive/comment those. I've just realized that you could simply check the difference between a page from 2 weeks ago and a current page, and compare THAT with a current version. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 21:29, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Did our voting system explode? ==

In the fun fact [[HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts#Quadratic_formula|Quadratic formula]], there are 7 votes to accept, 8 to decline, and 2 to modify and accept. This means that there is a majority for keeping it in some form, but the majority cannot agree on WHAT form. Do we use the simple majority system (decline DID get the most votes)? Do we require an actual majority (more than half for any particular side or the fun fact is rejected)? My preferred system is that we start by regarding "modify and accept" as "decline", and see if we can accept it as is. Then we add each particular "modify" suggestion to the "accept" column in order from most to least popular (simultaneously if they have the same number of votes) until we run out and decline the thing or have enough votes to accept with modifications. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 16:34, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
*I think the simplest option is simply to count each option as a separate choice. Count 7 accepts, 8 declines and 2 modifies, meaning decline wins. Seems simple enough to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*Okay here's my idea. Count up all the votes. Accept is worth two points, Weak Accept is one, Weak Decline is -1, and Decline is -2. Add up all the points and if the result is a positive number then you accept it. If its a negative number you decline it. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 17:16, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Woah! That's a great idea. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 16:01, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I think people are using '''Weak''' just to express a personal opinion, not a weight. I know that when i write '''Weak Decline''', I really mean '''Decline'''. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:07, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*On the contrary, I think people are using '''Weak''' to express a weight. There are many instances by lots of different people that bear this out. When I say '''Weak Decline''', I mean that I'm leaning towards declining but I don't feel strongly about it. If someone came in with an '''Accept''', I think that carries more weight. And you can't just go by the bare numbers—you have to read the comments. I think a brilliant argument in one direction can trump two or three poor arguments in the other direction. Take [[HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts#Bedroom_Window|Bedroom Window]] as an example (and ignore the off-topic grammar discussion for now). Obviously, people were voting to accept the fact without doing any research. Once you watch the toon, it's clear that the vote should have been unanimous decline. Lastly, a vote to '''Revise''' is still a vote to accept the idea, if not the wording. Nobody says '''Revise and Decline.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I agree with your '''Revise''' idea, but I don't think that votes can be counted on someone's opinion of the arguments and often people don't put any sort of argument at all. I think that votes would be more accurately counted if they were translated into numbers. If someone voted for the President for the wrong reasons would their vote count any less? No because one person's wrong reasons could be someone else's right reasons. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:38, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*The whole STUFF system, while it's a good idea, needs some major reform. I think you may be on to something there with the numbers. What if we had some kind of point system, say from -5 to +5, like this:
**'''[-3] Decline.''' I don't think so. --[[Main_Page|Frat Party]]
**'''[+5] Super Accept.''' This is a great fact. I cannot believe I did not see it before. --[[Main_Page|Datalore]]
**'''[+3] Revise and Accept.''' I think the fact is good, but it should be fixed a little. --[[Main_Page|StayPuft Marshmallows]]
***'''[+3] Second.''' --[[Main_Page|The Karate Kid]]
**'''[-5] BALEETED!''' Oh, c'mon! There's no way this fact should be in there! --[[Main_Page|Catbert]]
**'''[-1] Weak Decline.''' What do you get from a glut of TV? A pain in the neck and an IQ of 3. --[[Main_Page|Oompa Loompa]]
: 
:We also need some kind of time limit, established from when a fact is posted, so that we can close out some of these old items. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:16, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
::I think that this point system is a bad idea. I've seen plenty of cases where somebody puts "INFINIATE ACCEPTANCE! I think this fact is cute!" whereas the people Declining the fact actually have good reasons ("Uh, this fact is blatantly incorrect..."). <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:19, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:::What do you propose instead? We're going to have to start quantifying these votes somehow. We could reduce it to a simple yes or no vote, but don't you think we would lose some of the flexibility we have now? If we had a point system where you had to stay within a specified range, an INFINITE ACCEPTANCE (+5) could easily be offset by two regular Declines (-3). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:29, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*We need to keep this simple. Here's a proposal. Any '''Accept''' +1 ... any '''Decline''' -1. Exceptions. Any revision suggestion is ignored. I've seen STUFFs with all kinds of proposed revisions. How do you know what you're voting for? Vote on the issue at hand ONLY. Open a new vote for a revision. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Another proposal based on the weighted votes above ... forget the '''Infintite Acceptance''' idea. Allow weighted votes from 1 to 5. Vote like this '''Accept[n]''' or '''Decline[n]''' where ''n'' is the weight the user wishes to give to the vote. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:57, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Okay, I want to know what's wrong with the simple proposal of +1 for accept and -1 for decline. Really, what's the problem? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:58, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Agreed. If we were voting, I'd give this an '''Infinite Second to a Strong Accept'''. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I didn't mean that I thought anyone should ever vote for "Infinite" Acceptance. I actually think we should do away with cutesy votes, like '''Baleeted''', '''Del Taco''', '''Acceptamundo''', and so on. (I'd be sad to see them go, since I think they add character, but sometimes you've gotta make hard decisions.) After some reflection I advocate limiting votes to the following five choices: '''Decline''', '''Weak Decline''', '''Weak Accept''', '''Accept''', and '''Second'''. I haven't figured out how I think '''Revise''' should fit in. I dunno. This is giving me a headache. There's ''got'' to be a way to make this simple and effective. The quest continues... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:38, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
** My second proposal (which attempts to be a simplification of earlier proposals) does away with vote labels and seconding. Just vote yea or nay and assign a value from 1 to 5. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Problem: How are we going to get the general public to start using such a number system? They are used to using a simple accept/decline already, and it will be hard to break their habit. Other than that I think the value idea is a good idea, but not as good as [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki_talk:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts#Fun_Fact_Confirmation_Committee_.28FFCC.29 this idea]. -- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 18:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

== FORMAT PROPERLY ==

Tch. I leave the Wiki for a couple of weeks and when I come back, all the Fun Facts at the top of the page look like this:

=== Fun Fact Name ===

*The fun fact.
**'''A vote.''' --[[User:Upsilon|A User]]
*'''Another vote.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Somebody else]]
*'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Another User]]

Fun facts in STUFF look like this:

=== Fun Fact Name ===
The fun fact.

*'''A vote.''' --[[User:Upsilon|A User]]
*'''Another vote.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Somebody else]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Another User]]

Perhaps we should put something about STUFF on [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]]? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== Wow, jeez ==

I stop paying attention to the wiki for a while and STUFF degenerates into madness. I'm starting to have severe second thoughts about this whole STUFF thing, since the point of STUFF wasn't to have every single fun fact ever created put up on the page, especially in clumps of two or three. Aiiiggh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:49, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)
:Yeah, I kinda thought people were always a bit too anal about what goes and doesn't go in the Fun Facts section. I mean, there are some really bad ones (I mean '''really''' bad), but then, there are several ones that kind of have merit but get turned down pretty quickly. I don't really get why, outside of the "it causes clutter" argument... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:08, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Could we, maybe, organize by date and archive on the talk pages? ==

I just read the above discussion, but I wasn't sure if this is really a response to it or not so I've just made this a new section.

Ok, I like the STUFF page and would hate to see it go, mainly because I would have to watch the entire wiki to participate in the discussion that goes on there (aside from fixing random errors). Apparently it's getting to be too big and difficult to manage. I've noticed that entries added to the bottom of the page have gotten little attention. Someone (I think it was Upsilon, but I don't have the discussion page open anymore) suggested a time limit. I've been attempting to enforce that, but it's big and difficult to manage anyway (there's also a lot of stuff there that I can't resolve). I don't think anyone really wants to have to look in the page history to figure out what's old enough to archive (or what's been added recently). So I think new entries should be added to the top of the page, ala [[Wikipedia:WP:VFD]] (but without the subpage, that's annoying). Of course, this would also mean no links to specific toon sections..because there wouldn't be any.. So we'd archive on talk pages once things are resolved (which doesn't necessairily always correspond to a time limit, though I still think it would be helpful to have one at least as a guideline..or as the normal rule..).

If actually figuring out when the entries were added is a problem, I could certainly take a specific revision of the real STUFF page, dive into the history, and rearrainge everything into a subpage on my User space or something.. In fact, maybe I'll do that anyway..if I get flamed or something.. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:50, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Somebody needs to do some clean-up... ==

I'm seeing a LOT of IP/nameless users casting votes here. Problem is, it's stated right in the intro section that you can't vote unless you're registered and sign... so it looks to me like we have a lot of cleaning up to do here.

I was ''going'' to do it, but I can't say as doing it without any warning would've been very polite. So, anyone agree with me, or more importantly, willing to do the deed? I will, if nobody minds me doing it. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:17, 13 Jan 2005 (MST)
:It appears the general practice here is to make a reply explaining that the vote must be signed. This makes it clear that it's not countable without actually removing the vote, which would be annoying for people who actually HAD user accounts and forgot to sign properly or log in.. <s>--[[User:66.71.5.167|66.71.5.167]] 06:39, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)</s> (or, as in my case just now, didn't realize they were logged out) --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 06:41, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Actually, what is says is that "anonymous votes do not count", which I don't think is quite the same as "anonymous users ''can't'' vote." If an anonymous user lists a good reason in their "vote" it should probably be left there. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 02:38, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)

There's some other clean-up that needs to be done here as well. If there's an issue of an alleged "fun fact" that is clearly neither or is obviously just plain silly, is it wrong to just go ahead and get rid of it? Some of this stuff is just cluttering up and others have been on for months. I had submitted a reference for [virus] - it got a couple accept votes, but then nothing after a while. Finally I went ahead and moved it myself. I was afraid that if I didn't do it, it would get lost in the pile of madness this page has degenerated into. At what point is it OK for us to start trimming down this page so that worthwhile voting can take place? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 22:55, 8 Feb 2005 (MST)

Somebody obviously took a lot of time messing around with the code all over the page, it's showing up all htmlish and wiki-codeish everywhere, broken titles there, one bracket here, another 483834 posts that have been spelt wrong, and a gigantic discussion about a friggin 'ping' noise.
--[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]

: The HTML crap was apparently a spam troll and has been reverted. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:22, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
:: The "Pardack" HTML spam troll is back... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:55, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
:::Dealt with. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:00, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
::::Okay, cause I was getting pretty annoyed with that. I tried fixing part of it myself, but it didn't really work... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 08:15, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Joke votes ==

Can we make joke votes a Wiki-trollable offense? I'm kidding, slightly, but they're getting a little out of hand. As of 2/15/2005, the following joke votes have been included (all of them save one are anonymous, so they don't count, but they still do EXACTLY what STUFF was supposed to prevent: cluttered pages):

* '''Eh! Steve''' - In what was already a worthless fact (a later return of Eh! Steve), a "Revise, Accept" vote was added to make it MORE worthless by mentioning another Eh! Steve appearance.
* '''Car? Not no more''' - The fact refers to SB's mentioning of a car before the [[car]] email. The "Accept" vote claimed to know things that the writer could not have known, and determined that SB must have had a car because he dressed up as CARmen twice.
* '''Coincidencem''' - The fact itself is debatable; it refers to the return of a can graphic. But the "Third" vote is clearly a joke vote, as it brings up the fact that "1936 was a long time ago" as if that adds to the validity or lack thereof of said fact.
* '''Electrical Tape?''' - The fact mistakenly equated duct tape with electrical tape and made a shaky assertion. The "Accept" vote is clearly a joke vote, as all it says is "If ever one loved his electrical tape, twas Pom Pom."
* '''Losing his touch''' - The "fact" (about the quality of two emails) was an opinion, and one "Accept" vote mentioned no documented cases of anyone laughing at two emails.
* '''Baby Doll Crazy Dance''' - The fact was incomplete (referred to "an Atari game, but I can't remember which one.) Joke vote said it was "good to go" as it was.
* '''Edgar's anachronism''' - The fact itself, about when viruses were first created vs. Edgarware, is debatable, but the (currently) final vote is not - "Keep the mention of Fred Cohen, cuz he is cool." Ditch the vote, because it's a joke.
* '''Computer viruses''' - The absolute crap fact that shouldn't have been on STUFF in the first place mentioned twelve viruses on the writer's computer. One "Accept" vote with "I didn't know that." litters the otherwise-unanimous declines.
* '''Reynold's Wrap''' - Refers to a product that wasn't even mentioned in the 'toon in question. Olene's vote and subsquent self-second is probably a joke vote in and of itself, and then another (anonymous) vote mentions Reynold the character - which has nothing to do with the fact.
* '''Dan vs. Jerome''' - The fact itself is debatable, but the final "delete" vote only repeats the fact, placing "Strong Bad" in place of "Homestar" (which is CLEARLY false.)
* '''Marzipan No-Mouth In Fun Facts''' - The fact is already in the transcript, which didn't stop a joke voter from stating that the transcript didn't include the words "clearly told".
* '''Biscuit Dough Relations''' - The fact itself is untrue garbage through and through, and yet it has a "Prepetually accept" vote with nonsense as its reasoning, a "how do you know it's not true" acceptance vote (followed by a "how do you know it is?" from yours truly), and a revision that includes every last error that was mentioned in the previous Decline votes and then some.

And I probably missed some. I'm ready to go through and simply delete all these votes on the subject of being anonymous stupidity, but I'll let other people give their opinions first.

And if you don't sign your response, I'll ignore it!!! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:20, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)

UPDATE: It seems to be [[User:Dingell|Dingell]] who is responsible for at least some of the joke votes. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:55, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
:'''Second second second second ''SECOND'''''. I don't really care if this isn't something to vote on; I agree very strongly. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:17, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)

:You agree that it's me, or that the votes should be deleted?? Anyways, do as you will. And Fred Cohen is cool (cooler than Kevin DuBrow at any rate). --[[User:Dingell|Dingell]]
:: It's not all you. But I think he was agreeing with the "delete them" sentiment. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:56, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
:: Yeah, it was removing the joke votes I second, not you in particular. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:47, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
I agree. It gets really annoying because you can't just disregard the vote because of the obvious sarcasm (unless it's anonymous)

I totally agree - there doesn't seem to be any consensus on just when it's OK to delete this stuff, so sooner or later, someone's got to take action. We need to get rid of these obvious clutter-facts and go through and count votes for ones that really ought to have been decided by now. Certain long ones like the stupid "ping" noise one and the "quadratic formula" one should be moved to their respective Talk pages for further discussion if it's unclear whether they're accepted or not. Let's clear the way for things to move on here. The longer these useless ones stay up, the more they incite people to add more useless ones to the page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:23, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
:I went through and moved to archive those fun facts that had been either unanimously declined or overwhelmingly declined. It doesn't seem like much of an improvement, but anything is better than the way it was before. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:55, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
::One issue: Often cluttered in those jokes in a vote. People have a right to their oppinion, so you must respect it (even in a single "accpept" vote in otherwise unanimous declines). It's unjust to delete the enitre post just because they decided to add a joke. I say you delete the joke part of the vote, but keep the actual vote intact. If necessary, write something like "so-and-so voted '''Accept''', however their vote was removed because it consituded a joke. *sign here*". But you have to keep the bare "accept" or "decline" vote to keep things just. -- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 18:10, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
::: Which is utterly meaningless - the joke votes (which I haven't seen much of recently) were almost all unsigned and didn't count anyway, so they were just wasting space. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 18:51, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

=="This is the first time that..."==

I agree with the consensus that the "When *something* happens, this is the first time that *whatever is referenced*" fun facts should not be going on any of the toons or e-mails pages, but what about adding something about them to the character's bio page? For example, a mention of a certain character having parents should not go on the page for the toon where it occurs but rather on the character's bio page. This may be covered elsewhere, but I also might just be off my rocker - anyone agree or disagree? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:35, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
* I'm a little unclear on your wording. The first time ''something is referenced''? That's really silly, I concur (especially since "first references" to SB's parents have been various - don't ask me for the logic there). The first time ''something happens''? That's something else entirely. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:48, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Sorry - should be more like "When _____ happens in the toon, this is the first time it is referenced that ____ has/does/says _____." My point is that these particular references shouldn't clutter the individual toon pages but should rather go on the bio pages for the character/item/place/etc. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:49, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
*** ... I'm sorry, I'm still unclear on your exact meaning. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:56, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** Oy... OK, examples:
:::::"When Strong Bad talks about his 'poopaw' this is one of the few times there is a reference to Strong Bad having parents..." (actual proposed Fun Fact for [[secret recipe]]) - this shouldn't go on the Secret Recipe page, but rather (should it be at all note-worthy) a mention should go in Strong Bad's bio page, something to the effect of: "Strong Bad mentions his 'poopaw' in Secret Recipe."

:::::"This email implies that Homestar Runner has an email address, which we have no reason to believe because he is always using Strong Bad's computer." (from [[credit card]]) - this shouldn't go on Credit Card's page (if it's even accepted as being factual), but rather something should go on Homestar's bio page, such as: "In Credit Card, it's revealed that Homestar has an e-mail address."
:::: I find it very interesting that after your comment here:
:::::*When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
:::::** ''Decline every last case'' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --Jay
::::...you're finding what I'm trying to say so confusing. Though like I said, I could be completely off my rocker and this entire line of discussion totally unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:21, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
::::: Uh, if that's the case I have to say... no. I don't agree. If they don't belong in the Trivia section of the toons in question, I don't see how they belong in the character pages any better. And what confused me was your wording. It was difficult to parse your sentences to mean the first time ANYTHING happens, or the first time that something is INFERRED to happen, or the first time that something is MENTIONED... in which case, it belongs only if it's relevant and correct (the problem with the parents line and the Strong Sad line is that neither is correct in any case but one, but people keep adding them. For instance, in [[radio]], people kept trying to add that it was the first time SS had smiled, which is patently not true - and only barely relevant.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:44, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Fun Facts ==

I have something about the categories in Fun Facts and I couldn't think of anywhere to put this. I think that all pages with a ton of fun facts need to be divided into categories and, because this order is what usually appears on pages with the categories, this should be the order: 
Explanations 
Trivia 
Remarks 
Goofs 
Glitches 
Inside References 
Real-World References 
Fast-Forward

This is what it seems to be on most of the pages. This will make it look a lot cleaner and have the fun facts easier to find. Any objections?
→[[User:evin290|evin290]] 08:42, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)
: As the one who was responsible for splitting the sbemails and a few other 'toons - and, in fact, coming up with the categories - you know I'm for it. I've noticed FireBird splitting some of the main toons, though he didn't always keep to that exact order. (I've been off-and-on busy with real-world stuff meself, which is why I haven't joined in the fun.) BTW, hope you don't mind that I formatted your post. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:49, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Where the Cheat is at? ==

Sorry about the "Where the cheat is at?" dealie. I must have started editing before the title was changed and posted it afterward. Sorry for the confusion →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:11, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
:You aren't the one who changed it, so it's not your fault by any means. (Unless that IP addy was you. In which case, eh, whatever, it's cool now.) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:19, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
::Nope that poisson isn't me.

== Archive or Talk? ==

I just noticed a fair number of the STUFF items that I had Verdict'd and summarized and moved to appropriate Talk pages were just recently moved to the STUFF Archive page... complete with full discussion, even though the discussion was not included on the STUFF page once I summarized it. I'm loathe to revert either of these pages (though I may revert the Archive page, since the discussions are repeated unnecessarily now) but I think we need to come up with a definitive consensus as to what happens to Declined STUFF items. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:04, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

== contest the removal ==

<pre>These were on the STUFF page and declined. If you wish to contest the removal of any of
these, post a comment here (make sure it won't be confused with any of the original votes).
</pre>

Does this mean we can vote for declined fun facts? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 12:07, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

*I don't think that's the intended result, rather that if someone has a problem with it, post a comment and discussion can begin again on that Fun Fact - think of it as an appeal to a guilty verdict. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:19, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Removing Summarized Items/Verdicts ==

The page is once more becoming bloated. Unless anyone has objections, I will begin removing items that have been closed and moved to their respective Talk pages and/or Archive sections (in the case of Declined items) from February on back. Items that were accepted will be placed in the Archive section so that in case an Accepted item is STUFF'd again, the verdict will still be viewable. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:21, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

I like that idea. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:16, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Headline text ==
I'm sorry about my added fun fact. I forgot. Especially what it even was, please tell me.--[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 05:05, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

== Oh boy... ==

I'm starting to get Edit Conflicts on this page. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 16:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:Do you mean on this talk page or the article itself? Ima test both. --[[User:The Paper|THE PAPER]] 16:28, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::Nevermind, it works now. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 15:45, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
: Edit conflicts show up when someone has gotten ahead of you in editing the page. One time when it happens is when someone adds another item (a toon heading and/or another fun fact) above yours, which then pushes the ID numbers of all the headings below it up by one. Another time is if you are working on the full page and someone else pops in a smaller edit (or the whole page) before you. It's a pain to have to resolve, especially on a page this big, but that's why it happens. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 03:53, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==No TOC==

Why is there no Table of Contents on the STUFF page? Itg would be soo much easier to naviguate the page with one.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 16:04, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 23:12, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==Fun Fact Confirmation Committee (FFCC)==

There are soo many incorrect fun facts out there that I think we need a committee divoted to removing said facts. Just by looking arround the random pages makes me want to hurl a brick through my screen. And, once these facts are removed someone just resertes them. Not only that, but people are removing fun facts that are perfectly acceptible. Its annoying! Even the Stuff page doesnt work well. Thus, I propose this committie to have power over what facts stay and what goes. They are given a protocol, and if a fact passes the protocol than committie confirms the fun fact (perhaps by typing confirmed and signing) and removing/stufing fun fact (maybe put "rejected/stuffed by FFCC" in the comment section) so that way some one has a final word on these fun facts. What does everyone think? -- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 18:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*No one?-- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 22:39, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:For a different reason, we've seen something like this before - some guy took initiative to give little "gold stars" to facts he liked. Unfortunately, this proved to be EXTREMELY arbitrary - he'd give gold stars to facts that weren't that great at all, while facts similar to his starred ones would go unstarred. Plus, it just feels like your solution gives unfair power to non-sysops. And most new users would add the bad facts anyway, if they could. I understand where you're coming from, but I don't believe there IS any good solution other than keeping a close eye on the pages and revert, revert, revert. BTW, the reason that other user had "gold stars" was that the Fun Facts were generally accepted to be too cluttered (this was before we started splitting them into subcategories.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:42, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*But this would be a committie of multiple people with expreience on fun fact and the Stuff page. JoeyDay likes the Idea -- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 23:09, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**We already have a FFCC: It's the entire H*R Wiki community. Facts are added by the community and deleted by the community. Facts in dispute get STUFFed by the community and are accepted or rejected by the community. I admit that the STUFF process may need a little work, but all-in-all I don't think we need a separate committee. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
***The problem with that though is that people just add things without fully confirming them. At least the FFCC will be composed of multiple people divoted to keeping the fun facts accurate and clean, while folowwing a protocol to ensure correctness. It would be much more edicated than just the communittee itself.-- <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 18:05, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

== What the crap happened? ==

I'm looking at the previous versions of STUFF, and a LOT has been removed by [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]]. Did someone comission him to do this, <s>or is he just trolling? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:36, 2 May 2005 (UTC)</s> Okay, so he's not trolling. However, is the new page formatted well enough? (I was gonna lobby for one, but I think his really needs to be re-formatted). --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:45, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
:No I'm not Trolling, just doing some heavy cleaning. But please, by all means I think a format for the [[over STUFF'd]] page is a good idea. All I did was just drop it in. And no, this was entirely my idea. I got tired of waiting for "someone else" to clean up our beloved STUFF page so I did it myself. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:11, 2 May 2005 (PDT)

== I don't think we need STUFF anymore ==

STUFF isn't reliable and I think has out lived any usefulness it may have had. I'm all for following what Drhaggis has been saying all along. That is, useing the talk pages for what they are for. We should be discussing the content of articles there, not here with this "voting" system.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:04, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

:I agree. It has been overrun, getting cluttered, and just not useful anymore. Let's stick to the talk pages. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

::Hear, hear. I may not be famous here, but I think this system just dilutes people's minds with mob psycology. [[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 01:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Wrestleman

2005-04-24T20:53:46Z

Lunar Jesters: Fixing that up.

[[Image:wrestleman.png|thumb|Wrestle Man!]]

'''Wrestleman''' is a name occasionally used to refer to [[Strong Bad]].

*Strong Bad was first called a wrestleman in the online auction easter egg in [[english paper]], where Homestar describes him as "some type of wrestle man".
*In one of the easter eggs in [[personal favorites]], Pred asked Strong Bad if he was a real wrestle-man.
*Strong Bad was referred to as a "two bit wrestle man" in the email [[army]].
*A [[Weekly Sketchbook]] picture of a fake Strong Bad that "will not be replacing Strong bad any time soon" came out called "WRESTLEMAN", with a smiling face, and closed eyes, as pictured at the top right. Wrestleman appears to resemble the [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD|Yello Dello]] version of Strong Bad.
*In the [[Screen Savers Interview - 24 Jan 2005|Screen Savers interview]], [[The Brothers Chaps]] described Strong Bad as "some type of wrestleman" and "a red-masked wrestleman".
*Strong Bad was referred to as a wrestleman was in the email [[secret recipes]] - in an easter egg at the end (click C H E _ T), we see the cheat reading a book called "So You Want To Cook a Wrestleman?" with a picture of The Cheat putting the lid on a pot with Strong Bad in it.

[[Category: Running Gags]]

The Cheatar

2005-04-22T18:00:42Z

Lunar Jesters: Major style fixin's

[[Image:cheatar.png|thumb|right|220px|The Cheat is a Transformer!]]

The Cheat turns into a guitar! Or maybe not...

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[The Cheat]], [[Gary Palaroncini]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' May 24, 2004

'''Duration:''' 0:54

'''Page Title:''' Witness the Cheatar!

== Transcript ==

''{You see a wall with a purple door and a giant The Cheat guitar, in real life. A silhouette of Strong Bad comes in.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': The Cheat! I need you to help me open up this can of peas! {''Surprised noises''} The Cheat! You turned into, like, a giant guitar! You never told me you could do that! Wait a minute... What good is a giant guitar if you're not a giant...guitar...-ist? Why couldn't you transform into, like...a Semi! Or at least a tape player. You know, like: Ke-ka-ko-ko-ko-ko-ko-kokah! I don't think I like you like this. You're way taller than me. And way...guitarer than me.

''{The Cheat's silhouette enters}''

'''THE CHEAT''': ''{The Cheat noises (sounds like 'Hey what's that?)}''

'''STRONG BAD''': What the—The Cheat! You mean you can't turn in to a giant guitar after all? Then what good are you?

'''THE CHEAT''': ''{The Cheat noises. We hear a pop.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Hey! You opened my can of peas! Thanks, The Cheat! Now let's go pour these on that ant-hill I found.

'''THE CHEAT''': ''{Makes stance like guitar, makes The Cheat noises and walks away.}''

== Easter Eggs ==

*Move your mouse over the Guitar to see a message: ''The Rock N' Roll Hall of Fame was nice enough to ask us to paint a giant fiberglass guitar for an exhibition they're doing. 'The Cheatar' will be on display in Cleveland for a while, then auctioned off for charity with the other giant guitars.''

*At the end of the toon, click on the door to see a picture of Gary from [[Limozeen]] chillin with 'The Cheatar.' Keep clicking to see other pictures and finally a clip of Larry playing a solo on this big guitar.

== Fun Facts ==
*The 10-foot-tall fiberglass [[Wikipedia:Fender|Fender®]] [[Wikipedia:Stratocaster|Stratocaster®]] from this short was created for a program called GuitarMania. Through this program, hundreds of these guitars are creatively transformed into works of art. The sculptures are then sold at a live auction at the [[Wikipedia:Rock and Roll Hall of Fame|Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum]]. Proceeds benefit [[Wikipedia:United Way|The United Way]] and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum's Educational Fund.

*It is unknown what the final bid on the Cheatar was, but bidding started at $5,000.

*The Cheatar doesn't have any strings.

*Gary's chord progression during that video goes like this: GGDCGDCDG

*When Strong Bad mentions the Semi and the tape player, he is referring to [[Wikipedia:Optimus Prime|Optimus Prime]], and [[Wikipedia:Soundwave (Transformers)|Soundwave]] of the [[Wikipedia:Transformers (toyline)|Transformers]]. He also imitates the "transformation" sound, as noted in the transcript.

*The font of the "Comin' up..." Loading screen is reminiscent of the logo of Metal band [[Wikipedia:Iron Maiden (band)|Iron Maiden]].

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/cheatar.html watch "The Cheatar"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/cheatar.swf view the Flash file for "The Cheatar"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/cheatarmovie.swf view the Flash file for the Limozeen clip]
*[http://www.cleveland.com/guitarmania/index.ssf visit the Guitarmania official site]
*[http://www.cleveland.com/guitarmania/content.ssf?/guitarmania/gallery/thecheatar.html See The Cheatar's page on Guitarmania].
[[Category:Toons]]
[[Category:Shorts]]
[[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]]
[[Category:The Cheat Filmography]]

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2005-04-22T11:07:39Z

Lunar Jesters: Added fun fact.

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==
====[[Blue Laser Commander]]====

====A legendary voice, you screech?====

The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

*'''Decline.''' I doubt it was done on purpose. Maybe coincidentally, yes. But there is absolutely no certainty. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' Are you watching the same Cheat Commandos that I am? The whole thing is a very obviously intentional G.I. Joe parody. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I think it's more likely that the voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander rather than to the man who gave CC voice. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Not much of a difference in my eyes, but isn't that more of a "revise" than "decline"? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The key difference is that one is a reference to a concept, the other a specific person so '''Decline'''. Isn't there already a fact stating CC is a GI Joe parody? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Nope, it's a straight decline. Leave out the reference to the man and you're left with "The voice of BLC is a reference to Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe". I thought that was already a well-established fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptinated!''' But is Chris Latta dead? That's not what I read online. -Walking Armless
*Guys, I think some of you are misinterpreting the point of my STUFF here. Obviously CC is a GI Joe clone. I don't need to tell you that. What I'm saying, actually, is I don't think that the voice work Matt does in this toon references anybody's voice style in particular. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCEPT.''' This one really is a no-brainer. Cobra Commander has a ''very'' distinctive voice, and Matt is clearly mimicking it. [[Wikipedia:Chris Latta|Chris Latta]] gave Cobra Commander his voice. Therefore, Matt is ''clearly'' mimicking Chris Latta. (Sadly, Chris passed away in 1994 after a long illness.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**The fact as proposed seems to indicate that BLC's voice is some sort of intentional homage to Chris Latta. I just don't think that's the case. Matt is mimicking Cobra Commander's voice. Coincidentally, the voice was supplied by Chris Latta -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But by imitating Cobra Commander's voice, you are by necessity also imitating Chris Latta. What the fact is saying, then, is that "the Blue Laser Commander is a parody of Cobra Commander, even down to the way Chris Latta provided the voice." Stating it like that not only rounds out this wiki but also lets us use more [[Wikipedia:InterWiki|interwiki]] links, both of which are goals of a knowledge-based site such as this. And somebody might just learn a little bit extra. I mean, ''I'' did. — [[User:It's dot com|IDC]] 15:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But unless that was TBC's intention, its just another "could be" fun fact. They're imitating the '''CHARACTER''' not the guy doing the voice. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''ACCEPTED!''' For reasons already stated. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:24, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT) 

===[[Under Construction]]===
====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji".
:The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
*'''"MAYBE'D!"'''I like the 1st part, but it kinda looked more like a runny nose for lack of a better way of saying it. I don't care for the 2nd part though it's a pretty funny fact!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is starting to turn into a TTATOT. I'm not well-versed in the nuances of amine symbolism. I just thought 1-Up had a runny nose. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Agree''' I've read several article on this phenomenon. It is also standard fare for western anime parodies to include an arousal nosebleed. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept 1st, Decline 2nd''' I thought it was obvious, but not everyone knows about anime cliches. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*From what I've heard, the blood was recolored green. They did the same thing for Resident Evil 2 when it was ported to the N64. In this case, its meant to be a generic snot bubble because 1-up isn't sexually excited. '''Decline the second'''
**As for the first...meh. I can take it or leave it. '''Neutral''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''No and no.''' It's snot. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept (though possibly revise?)''' Manga fans know that this is a pretty common occurence in anime. The [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble Snot Bubble] is also a common cliche, though it's generally used for sleeping characters. Perhaps TBC got the two mixed up?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, like Rudeboy87 said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' In a cartoon context, green stuff from the nose is pretty widely understood to be snot. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's snot, and references an entirely different anime cliche with immature children having runny noses. There is no reason for 1-Up to be aroused, and if it was supposed to be blood, indicating a nosebleed, it would have been colored so.[[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 04:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Even though I'm the one who added the 2nd part, I agree that this is unintentional. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
====Today's Email Is Brought To You By The Letter F====
When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

*'''Decline.''' He could be saying something like "freakin' crap". --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 11:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
** '''Second''' ----

*'''Wait a minute...''' Wasn't this already STUFF'D? Or am I imagining things? Either way, I decline. I'm pretty sure everyone could guess what Strong Bad was going to type. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 12:36, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Seems pretty out of character (at least in hindsight) for both SB and TBC -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it was deliberate. Remember when Strong Bad shouted, "Screw all y'all!" in [[sb_email 22]]? I wouldn't call it out of character. However, TBC seems to have toned down the just barely borderline vulgar humor since the old emails in order to make the site more kid-friendly. That's just my opinion though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:50, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I always understood it as a humorous almost-usage of the F-word. This kind of gag is pretty common, even occurring in G-rated movies such as ''The Lion King'' and ''Finding Nemo''. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Heh, yeah, I know what you're talking about. "Why do I always have to save your AHHHHHHH!" "Don't you all realize we're swimming in our own--" "Shhh!" --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 1:10, 21 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' TBC have a no swearing policy. Boarderline swears are just jokes. Plus this is a speculatory "fact". The "f" could have been for anything. And "presumably" is just another way to say "may be". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Probably right, but who needs a fun fact to tell them this? It's as useful as saying, "When strongbad does this and this, he's making fun of the grammar in the e-mail."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I agree with Upset Your Balance et al. in that I think it was deliberate, but isn't it pretty obvious? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:35, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Everything is as it was. Not sure why this was removed after just one day of voting. '''NOTE:''' please allow 2 weeks of voting before declaring a verdict! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Strong Bad almost said the F-word, everyone who knows about the F-word can figure that out we don't need something to tell us about it. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second.''' I think what The_Pardack said pretty much summed it up. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.
*'''Decline''' I have trouble saying why, but I know there's something wrong with this. Be it that it's part of the haiku, or something else, I don't think this really needs to be stated. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''So cool a Decline, I thought I would Second it.''' This is a parody of the [http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_KLEZ.H&VSect=T Klez] email virus that used the infamous subject line "so cool a flash,enjoy it". It's not meant to imply that Strong Bad has actually read the email beforehand. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 08:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*** That's it. Thanks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 08:11, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Third.''' It's just part of the song. -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:26, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**''''Eh, Decline!''' This is seriously a Klez spoof. I even received a Klez email, and it gave my old computer a virus. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:05, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Oolong's Namesake====
Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for [[Combolations]] in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or [[Wikipedia:Oolong (rabbit)|Oolong the rabbit]], whose owner is Japanese.
*'''Decline.''' I figure the reference is most likely to Oolong, the traditional Chinese tea enjoyed throughout Asia. The characters mentioned here are named after the tea. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 07:49, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Always decline TTATO facts! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I would second this if I knew what TTATO stood for. (Second is NOT my vote) [[User:Fizz123|Stave it off, Fizz123, and now you can count to three.]]
**'''Decline.''' TTATO actually is supposed to be spelled TTATOT, and stands for "This, That, And That Other Thing." -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:34, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Sheds a tear''' My own little abbreviation is growing up. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:18, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*May be '''declined''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====MikeMike And Matt Rock====

The credits for Mike Rock and MattMatt are references to [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt Chapman]].

*DUHHHH! DECLINANATED! [[User:Fizz123|Anonymous Contributor]]
*'''Completely Decline.''' No, seriously. Like, nobody else vote on this. -Walking Armless
*'''Comment.''' Why wasn't this just deleted? --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 1:13 19 Apr 2005
*'''Accept.''' Never caught that. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:54, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*This is either something blatantly obvious or a supreme stretch. Since TBC aren't commenting either way, it's not worth the dispute. Make up your own damn mind, but don't write it down like it's the truth. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:21, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[rampage]]===

====Jammin'====
"Number one jam" is possibly a reference to [[time capsule]].

'''Decline.''' It's a common phrase. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 11:07, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.
*There's already a section for [[rampage]]. Put this in there. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 12:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Li'l Brudder Show]]===

====Ugly Animation====
The animation resembles the work of [[Wikipedia:Klasky Csupo|Klasky Csupo]] (most famous for [[Wikipedia:Rugrats|Rugrats]]), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

*'''Decline''' Wha...? Obviously not! Li'l Brudder is ''supposed'' to look raggety- he was made to make someone cry! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime''' Li'l Brudder pretty much looks the way Strong Bad drew him originally. He looks odd in the skydiving sequence 'cuz he's prolly falling at near terminal velocity! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:44, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Not So Li'l Decline''' Li'l Brudder's the only one that may look "ugly" due to the addition of visible black hairs all over his body and discolored teeth. Tendafoot looks exactly like the two-legged elephant Strong Bad drew, and the Legless Parrot and Human-Nosed Possum look like animated copies of the real animal, just with the aforementioned maladies. I think TBC made Li'l Brudder "uglier" to draw more pity for everybody's favorite go-getter. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 17:01, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Withdrawn''' I posted this originally, and on closer inspection I agree that Li'l Brudder looks more like Courage the Cowardly Dog than a K C creation. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Late 360 Shove-It To Decline'd!''' I think its unintentional, but kinda true about the "ugly, but cute" part. In spite of that, I also '''Second''' all of the above. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' He looks more like something John Kricfalusi (of the Ren and Stimpy fame) would create. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''No he doesn't.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 12:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Restored discussion. Please wait 2 weeks before declaring a verdict! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I don't see any resemblance. -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:29, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Things are lookin' up!====

The title of the page and Lil' Brudder's line at the end of the toon "Things are lookin' up!" is probably a reference to the Gershwin song of the same name. (Ironically, there's also a line in the song that says "I'm happy as a pup.")[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Comment.''' Here's a [http://www.fredastaire.net/music/lyrics/thingsarelookingup.htm link] to the lyrics. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Yea, it's the line "Oh I'm happy as a pup since love looked up at me." But...not that Lil' Brudder's in love or anything...[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Close, but Decline.''' It's just an optimism from someone who has no reason to be optimistic. I doubt that the song popularized the phrase, even if it's old. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:50, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''It's De Cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:24, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE'D''' It's a far stretch.--[[User:Mr. Sparkle|Mr. Sparkle]] 11:26, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' The only way LB can see a thing as he scrapes along is to ... well ... look up! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:18, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' There was a drawing of Lil' Brudder in the Weekly Sketchbook entitled "things are looking up!" It's more likely that they'd be referencing other content on their site. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:57, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Wait, wasn't that quote also mentioned in [[crying]]? Oh, guess not. DE CLINE!!! --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 22:48, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Stretch... Stretch... Stretch... Decline.''' -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:27, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)

===[[impression]]===
====What year is it?====

The form for the penmanship contest says 2004 Sectional Finals, however, the sign for the contest said 2003.

'''VERDICT:''' This goof has been accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:impression]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 16 Apr 2005
*'''ATTENTION GafAddict and Upset Your Balance and any other VERIDCTers''' - The standard voting period is 2 weeks. Please do not close any items that are newer than that that. In other words, check the first vote, if it's less than two weeks old, DON'T TOUCH IT! Also, if you're going to VERDICT an item, please sign your name and date as though you were signing a vote (two hyphens and four tildes)
**'''I think this one is a special case.''' It was STUFFed based on a false assumption. But I didn't VERDICT it, so... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***GafAddict did a few a day or so ago, and I've seen others get VERDICT'd well before the two week period. Also, whoever does it needs to sign it, so I figured I'd post it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*I have added my name and the date to the verdict. (Yes, it was me.) I'm not sure of the exact time of the verdicting though. And as Jay said, because it was STUFFed based on a false assumption, I put it back and verdicted it early. For other STUFF'd items, the VERDICT shall wait two weeks. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[dangeresque 3]]===
====Constantinople?====

The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.
*'''Decline.''' Istanbul is often used in the movies as a dangerous and exotic locale. Any resemblance to a TMBG song, living or dead, is purely coincidental. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's also [[Wikipedia:Istanbul|a real place]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Today's forecast is '''total crap.''' When will you people learn the difference between references and coincidences? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:37, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*"May be"...ugh. '''Decline''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' This fact wasn't just added to the page yesterday; it's been there for ''nine months.'' It's listed in the history as far back as you can go. Thousands of visitors to the page have already seen it and have tacitly given it their approval. The comments above make it sound like there's ''no chance'' that TBC chose Istanbul intentionally, but let me '''put it in context:''' in the few weeks leading up to this email, there were several [[Puppet_Jam:_Vitamins/Celebrities|Puppet Jams]] added to the site. Just a few weeks after the email, [[Experimental Film]] was released (so, being a song, it was likely already in the works at the time of the email). And you're telling me they ''didn't'' have TMBG on the brain? I don't think so. Too coincidental. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:41, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''I think not.''' Being on a page for a long time does not make a fact fun. It is a coincidence, 'nuff said. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' What It's dot com said. Believe me, if you listen to TMGB for too long, it's hard to think of Istanbul without mentally adding "...not Constantinople..." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:37, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Or maybe Istanbul is just a cool-sounding place and TBC weren't making a nod to TMBG. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:33, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:42, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*"I dunno about you The Ugly One, but I say this one should be '''accepted!'''" I really think so though. I agree with everybody who said it should be accepted. I've read over this debate, and do think that that whole thing's a TMBG refrence.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 21:48, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If, someday, a birdhouse shows up in a cartoon, will that be a reference to that birdhouse song? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:49, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's beside the point (although "birdhouse" is not a word that most people use every day). Just about everybody familiar with TMBG knows their song "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and identifies one with the other. I again refer you to the ''context'' of last summer (see my comments above), and considering that, I really don't think this fact is a stretch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Well, I never gave this thing any approval, tacit or otherwise. I've patrolled this page many times and everytime I read this "fact" I wrinkled my nose. I avoided STUFF-ing it because (1) unless I'm in the right mood it's tiresome and tedious and (b) I was afraid to expose my lack of hepitude. Hep or not, I still maintain this fact is based on the purest of speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' The Istanbul song is NOT originally TMBG. My google search says it was written in 1953, and it was reasonably popular before TMBG came along.
**'''Comment.''' He comes the [http://www.songlyrics.com/song-lyrics/Four_Lads/Miscellaneous/Istanbul_(not_Constantinople)/147257.html link]! Istanbul (Not Constantinople). Artists: The Four Lads ... peak Billboard position # 10 in 1953 ... Words by Jimmy Kennedy and Music by Nat Simon -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***The question isn't whether TMBG wrote the song (a ''lot'' of cover versions of songs are as popular as or more popular than their original versions, so this too is beside the point), but whether Istanbul is a reasonable reference to TMBG, and if so whether TBC might reasonably be referencing them by choosing Istanbul. On close calls like this, where the two parties have a known relationship and were demonstrably collaborating at the time, is the standard of proof ''really'' "[[Wikipedia:Burden_of_proof#Beyond_a_reasonable_doubt|beyond a reasonable doubt]]," or would a "[[Wikipedia:Burden_of_proof#Balance_of_probabilities|preponderance of the evidence]]" standard apply? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:08, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Call me Cletus if'n ya want, but, a single word on a placard does not a reference make! Now, if the sign had Constantinople crossed out with Istanbul written below it, well ... then we're talking reference! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:21, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****Aha! Now ''that's'' an argument that addresses the heart of the issue. Especially the "crossed out" part. Good prize! I'm not going to ''officially'' downgrade my vote above to neutral ('cause I don't think it will matter anyway), but, off the record, my support for including this fact is dwindling (although not gone). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Discount Flashback Warehouse====
In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad sounds a lot like Senor Cardgage. In fact, the whole easter egg resembles the Senor Cardgage Mortgage toon.
*'''Declinating the countryside, declinating the peasants...''' Of COURSE Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage sound similar - they're alternate versions of the same character. As for similarities between the two, all I see is that they're both commercials. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 11:48, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:40, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster''': After watching it a couple more times, I see that the second part is quite a stretch. As for the first part, I think I need to clarify: Strong Bad ''talks'' like Senor Cardgage, i.e. he uses a monotoneous voice. (Nice decline message tho'...) Therefore, the fun fact '''rephrased:''' In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad's style of speaking is similar to that of Senor Cardgage.
*Excardon me, but what differation does that make, Valerie? '''Decriminoted (decline).'''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*Okay, maybe it's just me, but does anybody else notice that Strong Bad's voice is kinda rasp and expressionless? That's whay I'm basing the whole thing on.
*'''Decline''' Matt Chapman can only do so many different voices, and it makes it especially hard to try and do two alternates to the same character. Strong Bad also does somewhat of a Senor Cardgage voice at the end of [[theme park]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Comment''' One might also add that both seem to have a common source. That is, the cheap television ads that small businesses create. If you somehow don't know what I'm talking about, just watch a local network for a little while, you'll see and hear plenty of dead air, gaudy graphics, poor diction, and bad acting. Actually, I don't know how you can fully appreciate Homestar Runner without having watched even that small amount of tv.
**SIGN YOUR VOTES! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***"Comment" is not a vote. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:27, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* '''D3kl1n3!!''' I didn't bother to read all this to see if somebody had already said this, but The 'Discount' bit came before 'Senor Cardgage' bit. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 02:50, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Here comes the Thnikka-Decline-Man!''' Um, its also a second with kerrek slaya, but sewiously, this did come out before [[Senor Mortgage]]. Check yer facts, folks. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:43, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster:''' Ah cwap, I did forget to check the release dates. My apologies to the hrwiki users. This might have been the wohst hundwed wohds I evoh spent.
**'''Note on the characters:''' Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage are not the same person or even alternate versions of one another. According to Strong Sad, Senor Cardgage was a real person who lived nearby the Strongs' home. Creepy Comb Over Strong Bad is a hypothetical version of Strong Bad who ''resembles'' Senor Cardgage. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:51, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)

===[[replacement]]===
====Strong Mad sings====
Strong Mad says "I'M STRONG MAD," which could be a reference A Jumping Jack Contest, in which Strong Mad poses as Strong Bad and says a similar line.

'''Verdict:''' After only one week of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly and unanimously '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:replacement]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[spring cleaning]]===
====DELETED!====
The "DELETED" screen has a green background on the Tandy. When later used on the Compy, it has a blue background. It has not been used on the Lappy thusfar.

'''VERDICT:''' This information has been '''moved''' to the [[DELETED]] page. The votes have been moved to [[Talk:spring cleaning]]

===[[rampage]]===

====Poetic chops====
Ironically, while Strong Sad glorifies iambic pentameter, his creation is a pretty bad example of it. He twists the stresses on "lyric rampage," properly pronounced LY-ric RAM-page (a pair of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trochee trochees]), into ly-RIC ram-PAGE (a pair of iambs).

*'''Decline.''' I agree with what you're saying. Also, it's not much of a rampage to be reciting at a rate of 2 syllables per second. However, I don't think anyone learns anything from this fun fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait a '''Second!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny that Strong Sad has to artificially make trochees into iambs, but maybe I'm just a nerd. Anyway, I'm sure not everyone will know this, so accept! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:38, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Sign yer vote!
**'''Weak Second to a Strong Accept.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third the Nerd''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''seconding the third''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''seconding the seconding of the third of the...whatever. I agree.''' [[user:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
****'''20x6ing the 1936''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''''
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:56, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
**'''Comment''' There is already a similar fun fact on the page.
*Great jorb!
** Uh... is that a vote? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Absolutely not the case!''' I see what you're saying, but it's not the case. It's just the way he did it to the beat...you wouldn't pronounce it the same if you're doing it to a beat.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' I hate to argue with someone on my side, but: Strong Sad says in the beginning, "Iambic pentameter is where it's at!" so then he proceeds to give a line of iambic pentameter (plus one "ummmmmm" in the middle). Yes it did match the beat, but it would be more accurate to say that the beat followed an iambic metric, and because strong sad rampaged in iambs, he matched the beat (though if he had waited half a beat before starting, he could have matched the rhythm with all trochees)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 01:31, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Strong Sad, Charles Barkley, and Ruben Studdard...long lost triplets?====
Strong Bad's insult of "round mound of gray fatness" towards Strong Sad could be derived in part from the nickname of former NBA player [[Wikipedia:Charles Barkley|Charles Barkley]], the "Round Mound of Rebound." Also, Ruben Studdard, who won [[Wikipedia:American Idol|American Idol]] in 2003 and bears more than a slight resemblance to Strong Sad in shape, is sometimes known as the "Round Mound of Sound."

*'''Decline.''' Before Jay gets to it: This, that, and the other... If it's been used more than once elsewhere, it's not a specific reference, and therefore, unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:09, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** Well, this is two unrelated things, and (if it's true) exactly one of them is it, but we don't know which. Not EXACTLY the same thing as my usual "this that and the other thing" complaint -- ''but'' -- it's too much of a stretch in either case without some extra info, so I do have to agree with '''Decline'''-ing it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Barkley and Ruben don't even look alike, much less Strong Sad. 20:52, --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Comment.''' A little Googling shows that [http://www.luma-electronic.cz/lp/p/Kenny/price_k_walking.htm Kenny Price] was the first Round Mound of Sound, way back in 1969. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Is the SB's insult of the "Round Mound of [something that rhymes with round and mound]" type? Of course it is. Is it notable? Given that the reference has been around for at least 36 years, probably not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:58, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Sad is round, a mound, gray, and fat. The only thing Strong Bad's insult is a reference to is Strong Sad's appearance. Can you streeeeeeeeetch? -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:46, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Round Mound of Decline''' Does "Gray Fatness" rhyme with "Round" and "Mound?" [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Rewrite''' it into something a bit more streamlined. Something like: "'Round Mound of Fatness' is a reference to other characters such as Kenny Price, the 'Round Mound of Sound', and Charles Barkely, the 'Round Mound of Rebound'". I like this Fun Fact, though.
*'''Rewrite'''. When I watched [[rampage]] for the first time, I thought of Charles Barkley. -- [[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:30, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)

====Dumpy Dump sat on a wall====
Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "DJ Dumpy Dump" could be a combination reference to the rappers DJ Jazzy Jeff and Humpty Hump (who Coach Z once dressed up as for Halloween). It may also be a reference to rapper Doug E. Doug.

* '''Decline''' all but Humpty Hump - it's the only one close enough. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:02, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise''' As said above, just stick with Humpty Hump. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 20:16, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' Now then, if he was being called "DJ Dazzy Dump", I'd agree that it might also be a reference to jazzy jeff. But that's not what's going on here. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Humpty Hump is a fairly clear reference, I think.
*'''Accept''' I don't get it. It seems to me it pretty clearly a reference to DJ Jazzy Jeff. I am sure the Brothers are familiar with both. Doesn't it seem likely that they were refering to both?[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Uh... no?''' It matches Humpty Hump with about three letters' difference. It matches Jazzy Jeff with about ONE letter's similarity. Why does it have to be both? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Silly''' They both sound a lot like it, but DJ Jazzy Jeff has the 'DJ' and the exact same rhythm. It is silly to just go by the letters.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*** If it's VERY close to one and SORTA KINDA VAGUELY IN A WAY close to the other, why even entertain the sorta kinda vague one? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** DJ Jazzy Jeff is not the only rapper with 'DJ' in his name. That's not a specific reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:32, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** While this is true. I am hard pressed to think of one that sounds so much like DJ Dumpy Dump. Clearly I am losing this vote. (Although four to one is a pretty small sample. I have checked with friends here and they agree with me for what it is worth.) I really honestly believe it is a reference to both. I would be extremely surprised to find that The Brothers were not aware of how much it sounds like both of them. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Decline all.''' It's not a specific reference to any of those - it's a reference to Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "dumpus". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well, that TOO... but it's pretty close to Humpty Hump, so I wouldn't discount the reference possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***I know it was obvious - I'm just skeptical of any of these. It could also be a reference to Marky Mark, or Easy E (sic), or Flavor Flav, or... you catch my drift? Having the _____-y _____ thing for a name isn't THAT uncommon - and in this sense, if you've got people coming up with three or more '''possible''' references, well then perhaps it's not actually a specific reference, and as such, it probably shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DJ Decline''' There are more than one artist whose stage names begin with "DJ." There's no similarity between "Dumpy Dump" and "Jazzy Jeff." Go away. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' If you can't prove it, don't post it. I will say that the Dumpty Hump reference is the most likely one, especially if TBC have referred to the guy before. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''And a comment''' I'm seeing more and more people getting blunt or just plain rude with how they reject fun facts. I can appreciate this (alot of the supposed "facts" annoy me) but maybe its time the rules were revised a bit. Maybe limit the types of facts accepted or post clearer rules at the top of the page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' at least Humpty Hump. I also support keeping DJ Jazzy Jeff. Get rid of Doug E. Doug. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:59, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite.''' Ditch DJ Jazzy Jeff and Doug E. Doug.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' First thing I thought of was Jazzy Jeff... Then again, I'm rap-ly challenged. Humpty Hump for sure. [[User:SP|SP]]
*'''A digga. A digga. A diggity-DECLINED! I guess Homestar didn't stop me.''' I can think of another DJ with the same rhythm-Jazze Pha. (Pronounced Jazzy Fay) --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:33, 21 Apr 2005 (CDT)

====Wite Wrapper====
The fact that Strong Sad's "whiteness" is acknowledged on his CD refers to famous white rappers such as [[Wikipedia:Eminem|Eminem]] and [[Wikipedia:Vanilla Ice|Vanilla Ice]].

* '''Del taco... wait...''' Hey, boys and girls, let's see how far we can streeeeeeeeetch Fun Facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:40, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' Yeah this one is really stretching.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
** '''Second to last place.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 02:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Ding!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* ... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:07, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I agree that it is a reference to white rappers. The problem with this fun fact is 1)the joke is obvious and 2)Eminem is considered to be a GOOD rapper (even though I can't stand him) while Strong Sad is meant to flop. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:42, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''I think this one is worth our time, maybe we should accept it--DECLINED!''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline''' Hold on The Cheat! We're gonna stretch this fun fact to the MOOOOOOOOOOOOOON! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:22, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline. White is the color of his face. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' based on the fact that it's common household knowledge (well, some households) as far as white wrapperas and jokes about them go.--[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Decline''' plus '''side note:''' There already is a fun fact about this on the page. Furthermore, Coach Z is some sort of Canadian/Minnisotan/New Englander/Bostonian white boy himself, and he can rap better than anyone else on the site. In addition, The Brothers Chaps seem to be pretty good at rapping (at least when they write and perform for Coach Z). --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline''' Why does the color of a rapper's skin matter? [[User:Fizz123|Someone who does not like racism]]
*'''Decline.''' It's not really like that...I think it's more of a stupid slang word for someone who doesn't rap well...It's been used so much it goes beyond being racist. (which is why Strong Bad can say it.) (So, Fizz123, it's not exactly a racist comment.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* I'm a girl. I don't understand this stuff. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**Please tell me this is sarcasm. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Yes, it is. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]

====English Lesson====
(under the ''quiver(ed)'' definition) In early Modern English, it would have been written "Quiver'd" (not to be confused with 404'D, Cerebellum'D, etc, etc.).
* '''Decline'd''' Don't worry, I wasn't confused in the slightest. Except, perhaps, as to why you made this 'fun' fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:46, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:07, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline.''' Number A, this is not interesting or relevant. Number B, how do you know Strong Bad didn't say it like Quiver'd? Quivered and quiver'd would be pronounced the same way. This shouldn't have even been STUFF'd. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:52, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**A,B,etc... are not numbers.
***You aren't a regular, are you? -Walking Armless
**Heh... good point on B, mibluvr13. I don't know why that didn't cross my mind when I STUFF'd this. Guess I was just thinking blindly about what was in the transcript without thinking about the actual toon. '''Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:01, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====I'm on a Rainbow====
Strong Bad capitalizing "Reading Rampage" in the e-mail could be an allusion to [[Wikipedia:Reading Rainbow|Reading Rainbow]], the popular 90's children reading show.
*<strike>'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:49, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)</strike>
*'''Accept/Rewrite''' I don't like the phrase "could be" in that statement. But you might be on to something there --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline''' 100% pure Florida natural SPECULATION! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline.''' How is capitializing a phrase a reference to anything? And it's still a stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**I submitted this fun fact because Strong Bad didn't capitalize any other rampages he mentioned, and looking at the phrase capitalized, it kind of looks and sounds like Reading Rainbow, at least alliteratively. It was the first (and so far only) thing that popped into my head as to why it was capitalized. Just wanted to state my case, whether or not it matters. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 17:26, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Heck no at all.''' This is a stretch and three quarters. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' That's pretty clever, actually! I like it. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Being clever is far from a prerequisite for a fun fact. Anyway, '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:13, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''SEVERE Decline!!!''' Anyone who thinks that is a reference needs to have their brain checked, no offense. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Are you kidding me? There's serious doubt. But not about whether this fact should be '''DECLINE'D!!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' If there's no certainty of the connection, it shouldn't be listed. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''VOTE CHANGE! SECOND!''' That's true, Beatfox. I think the only reason I voted yes before was because it sounded hillarious as a spoof...I mean, Reading Rainbow...Reading Rampage? Hahahahaha! Someone ought to make a flash 'toon about that![[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:45, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.'''If you do a google search for the phrase "reading rampage", you will see that there are a great many libraries in the U S of A that sponsor reading rampages! Still, I like the way you think. It's a stretch, but clearly you have a good sense of humor :)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:18, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*My Land! [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=reading+rampage Google] ''does'' show lots & '''lots''' of Reading Rampages going ORRRRF in the USA! This is more that just a stretch. The fact as written is just plain wrong. This is a real-world reference. I'm upgrading my vote to an '''Infinite Decline with a Major Rewrite.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:36, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' The rules of the STUFF'd page prohibit this type of unverified trivia. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Weak Decline''' I think that although this could be a connection, I think that it's stretching it a little. Strong Bad ''vaguely'' says it like Reading Rainbow in the e-mail, but not so much that it stands out to you. I could see why you'd say this, but I still think that you're probably incorrect. -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 4:08 PM, 15 Apr 2005
*'''New Trell''' You do happen to provide sufficient reasoning for the Reading Rainbow reference, but the past comments on Reading Rampages are also... well... I DON'T KNOW. I'M NEUTRAL, I DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING! ...Yeah [[User:SP'd|SP'd is crazy]]

====Marzipan's Speech Impediment====
Marzipan seems to stutter uncharacteristically during the phrase "would be proud."
*'''Accept.''' I thought this was a rather unusual observation on a character who's normally very proficient with her speech. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:05, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' For once, I think this is legitimate. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 13:19, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It sure doesn't sound like "Geoff Chaucerbury" to me! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice this. Very nice. Clap, clap. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:53, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Because, uh, why does it need to be in Fun Facts? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:23, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' It's noted in the transcript (would be is written twice). --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 01:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' True, but it's not immediately obvious to the casual reader. It could easily be overlooked or mistaken for a typo. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:39, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Countercomment''' Dan vs. Jerome was similar in its construct - it was in the transcript but non-obvious. It was declined too. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 07:16, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:52, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a side of DECLINE!''' Sounded more like a simple flash goof to me. Nothing worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment''' Whatever it is, it's not a glitch. I checked it out in a sound editor. Not only are the two "would be's" unique, they make up one continuous phrase. There's no discontinuity in the waveform, and the tone of voice transitions seamlessly. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:14, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' -- I believe it's worth noting on a few counts. First, it's unusual for TBC to make this kind of goof. Second, it verifies what people believe they've heard. Third, it prevents people from trying to read into the dialog what's just not there (e.g. Geoff Chaucerbury). There! I doubt I swayed any of the Decliners, but I've had my say! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept '''but''' Move.''' Given that close analysis of the sound track has revealed that this is an actual occurance and not a glitch, it should be taken as valid, but perhaps would be best left as part of the transcript. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:15, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' Apparently, some less-informed person decided to correct this "typo" in the transcript. I have restored it and added an HTML comment to ward off such attempts in the future... whatever happened to the comment that was there before? In any case, we should at least have ''something'' on the page to point out this oddity. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:35, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Because''' someone changed it to "Chaucerbury", we talked about it, agreed it was wrong, and the person who changed it back didn't put back the comment. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Pie, Anyone?====
"The pie's the limit" may be refering to Strong Bad's wednesday pie motivational talks in [[other days]].
*'''Decline.''' Just because it contains "pie" doesn't necessarily mean it's a reference. And I don't like the "may be". [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:54, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I want to accept this, I really do, but there's just not enough there there. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:58, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''I can't think of a Decline pun right now''' Well, in my opinion, it's just a play on "The Sky's The Limit." Pie is actually a pretty widely used running gag on H*R, including the pie motivational talks mentioned earlier, piemonade, etc. So if anything, this should be in some other section. [[User:SP|SP]]
*'''Decline''' Hot soup is on my eye![[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' "The pie's the limit" is a reference to the old saying "The sky's the limit." Strong Bad was just being silly by saying pie instead of sky. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*I don't know why, but when I see "may be" in a fun fact, I can see a kitten dying. '''Declinester''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' That and it violates the guidelines of good fun facts (see top of page). --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:16, 17 Apr 2005

====Chicken Soup for the Soul====
One of the books seen during Strong Bad's "reading rampage" is titled Soup, Right?, a reference to the "[[Wikipedia:Chicken Soup for the Soul|Chicken Soup for the Soul]]" book series.
*'''Accept'''I like Chicken Soup! You dang right it's a reference![[User: Umbertowasted|Umbertowasted]]
*'''Decline.''' Stretchy stretchy Stretch Armstrong! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:32, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:00, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I am sure this is an intentional reference.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I can see this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' They stretch you, and stretch you, and STREEEEEEEETCH you! --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' No more a stretch than the ''For Jerks'' book referencing the ''For Dummies'' ones. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Except that "Soup, Right?" doesn't sound at all like Chicken Soup for the Soul, whereas "(Topic) for Jerks" is just like "(Topic) for Dummies".
*'''Decline.''' Soup, Right? could be short for "Soup Done Right" or something like that. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 13:20, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No way, Lucy.''' Sharing one word doesn't make it a reference. Seriously, people, you're not even trying anymore. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' You're stretching! Like RB said: It's only sharing ONE word!! Come on, people!! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:29, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Not trying? Seems more like they're trying too hard. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Delete.''' There's not way that that is a reference. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:37, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I based my vote based on the fact that the books Strong Bad is reading are meant to sound like advice books. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DELORTED!''' That almost definitely doesn't have anything to do with anything. That's like saying "Sweatshirtguy" is a reference to Rocky.
*'''Insert witty DECLINE comment here''' MAJOR STRETCH! Just cause they share the same word doesn't mean they're related. Wow. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
**'''Second.''' Totally unsupported theory. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:18, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Accept''' Definately a reference
**'''Sign teh vote!''' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 00:02, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**"Definately" not. '''DECLINED''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:56, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Inclined to Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' While we're at it, "Biscuit" is a reference to "Seabiscuit."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Are you sure you didn't want to type decline? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:37, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I meant accept. Try to name other bestsellers with the words "soup" or "biscuit" in them. It seems clear to me that the titles aren't just random--they're either references to real books, real things (brown story), or HR references. The only thing that seems random to me is Strong Mad's waffle, which reads "BUG."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:18, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***I'm not convinced. It's still one word, and both words happen to be kinds of food. And I, for one, didn't even know "Seabiscuit" was a book til you mentioned it. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 00:06, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***FYI, the book "Seabiscuit" was a major bestseller even before the movie came out.
****Excuuuuse me, Princess, for being a disaffected youth. I haven't picked up anything worth reading since Hitchhiker trilogy. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And, rsl12, you're basing your crackpot theory on the fact that the words soup and biscuit appear in SBemails? Sorry, wrong. You're an idiot. Good-bye.-- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:08, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Goodbye. Hope you don't come back. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 13:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Okay, okay, enough with the insults. Agree to disagree. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*I'll stop, but I don't like how some people can totally go blind in saying someone has no manners for STUFFing a fun fact. Either way, my vote is upgraded to '''Severe Decline/Delete.'''--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:11, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====It's a Bird, it's a Plane, it's Pie???====

"The pie's the limit" is a reference to the quote, "The sky is the limit," which is found on Thorax Corporation's website.

*'''Decline-erson''' Not only is this fact too obvious, but "The sky is the limit" is a cliché, and is not exclusive to Throax.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Well look who thinks he's Clever Dan. Wait, you're wrong, it's a reference to the Notorious B.I.G., he made a song called "Sky's the Limit" so he must've copyrighted the phrase!!!!111one Ugh...
*'''Decline x999''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Piecline.''' Sorry, that's the best I can do with this one. Why wasn't this just deleted? --- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Because I wanted to make sure it wasnt just my oppinion that this stunk.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:48, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Looks like you're not alone on this one! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Re: why this wasn't just deleted: there's a lot of fun facts on these transcripts that should just be disposed of promptly. This one I agree with. But then again, if we did that, there wouldn't be a STUFF page. And by the way, I also '''decline.''' -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:46, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''DECLINE-ED!''' The sky is the limit is a popular phrase. Just because it's found on the Thorax Corp's website doesn't make it a reference. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:40, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Norse mythology====
The line about making people from spit may be a reference to a Norse myth, in which the Aesir (war gods) and Vanir (fertility gods), to seal a peace treaty between them, made a man (named Braugi) from their collective spit. He knew all their combined secrets, but was eventually killed by giants.
*'''Decline.''' It's more likely a reference to the fact that spit contains DNA, and it may one day be possible to clone someone from their DNA. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Third''' Coincidental. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* While I'm suprised about how much you know about Norse Mythology...'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Uh... no. While that's a very well thought-out reach, it's still a reach - the reference is to cloning from DNA. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:12, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' It's probably a reference to DNA and cloning. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:24, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* You obviously put a lot of work into this one, but unfortunately, I must '''Decrine.''' As said by other folks above, it's a reference to cloning from DNA. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:49, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept.''' This is a FUN FACT! Mind you, I highly doubt this is what TBC were trying to reference, but my life has been enriched by reading this. I would suggest rewriting it, however, to say "There is a story in Nordic mythology in which the Aesir (war gods)...." This way, there's no suggestion that TBC was trying to reference this fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No way does this work. The whole joke is based on the popular misconseption of what cloning is. Clones are genetic twins, not exact duplicates with the same minds, thoughts, and memories of the original. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:21, 17 Apr 2005

===[[pizzaz]]===
====Third Interview====
This is the third time Strong Bad has interviewed somebody. He "interviewed" [[Homsar]] (actually himself speaking for Homsar) in the email "[[interview]]" and he interviewed [[Homestar]] in the toon [[The Interview]].
*'''Accept.''' Nice one. [[User:hamrodrunner|hamrodrunner]]
*'''Decline.''' This should never have been STUFF-ed. It should have been deleted outright. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:48, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' To paraphrase a below quote, fun facts aren't made to count how many times things happen. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline to the moon''' Firsts are noteworthy... thirds aren't so much. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move/revise''' How about moving it to the Fast Forward of the "interview" e-mail and saying something like "Strong Bad also conducts interviews in [[The Interview]] and [[pizzaz]]." [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 17:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**How about not? Noting how many times Strong Bad conducts interviews isn't fun - anybody watching those e-mails can tell for themselves whether or not he's conducting interviews. And the fact that the two toons being referenced actually have the word "interview" in the title makes this one even more obvious and unnecessary. '''Declined''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:24, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Nobody cares. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Severe Decline!''' First times are somewhat interesting, second times are not, and third times are hazardous to your health.
*'''Declination Nation.''' No offense, man. I mean, you should get credit for trying, but it's just, well, boring. No one cares.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declorned.''' Nobody cares about thirds, or even seconds. First's are okay (mostly). But back to the subject, this is not a worth fun fact. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
====CREEPING floating DEATH flashlight====
When everyone is telling ghost stories, no one actually holds the flashlight with his or her hands. It just sort of floats in front of everyone. With Homestar, Marzipan, and the King of Town, this makes sense, since none of them have visible hands, but we should see everybody else's hands.

*'''Decline''' I suppose that they couldn't be seen holding the flashlight, but their arms could be behind the black circle, so...nope. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:59, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Declinez0rs''' Didn't we already see this? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:09, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Second''' I believe so, but apparently the person who posted this goof moved it back when he found it STUFF'd, so it was STUFF'd again. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline.''' This is just a continuation of one of the site's longest running gags: none of the characters have a normal physiology. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:27, 17 Apr 2005

===[[Fhqwhgads]]===
====Not Expecting====
Fhqwhgads actually just sent the Email as a joke. It was not intended to be used. However, Fhqwhgads, whose personal information will not be revealed because of a request not to, did say this in an AIM conversation: "I didn't spoof a virus. I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." If you don't believe this, you can contact him-his AIM screename is IamFHQWHGADS142. (He has pride that he is Fhqwhgads) -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]]

'''VERDICT:''' This item was closed on request by the author. See below for a new version of this fun fact. Voting moved to [[Talk:Fhqwhgads]]--[[User:-erson|<nowiki>Posted by </nowiki>-erson]] 01:27, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====The joke theory====
- (An outcome of "Not Expecting")
- It's been theorized that this [that the email was a spoof of the "i love you" virus] is not true. A person claiming to be Fhqwhgads said he actually just sent the Email as a joke, and that it was not intended to be used. "I didn't spoof a virus," he said, "I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." However, due to a concern about personal provacy, he would not give any information. -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:36, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Still Decline''' Next thing you know the Wiki will be flooded with kids claiming to have their own story about why they e-mailed Strong Bad. Too much speculation, no real way to prove any of it. Its bad enough that we have people thinking they can get their fun facts in by putting "It may be" or "Its possible that" in with them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:33, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''2nd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:02, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I can see how we wouldn't want to let this get out of hand, but we're fighting a problem we don't even have. If people were going to randomly and falsely claim to be email authors, I think they'd already be doing it. Plus, we're not talking about accepting ''all'' such claims; we're only concerned here with ''this'' case (and if the Supreme Court of the United States can make a ruling while at the same time declaring that it ''doesn't'' set precedent, so can we). Lastly, I think TK genuinely believes to be in contact with ''the'' fhqwhgads, and that should carry some weight. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:54, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Thank you. And I assure everyone here: neither I nor any of my comrades (including Fwh) is anywhere near crazy. ^_^ In fact, I really hate nonevident and irrational claims, and I most certainly would not want the wiki to be flooded with them! But I seriously know THE Fhqwhgads -TK
*Well I genuinly think that I'm in contact with people who can't get my point. It could be true yes but he can't prove it so it shouldn't go up in any way shape or form. No different than any other fun fact that needs proof to be accepted. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline-erson''' Is it not possible that this potential AIM'er could be a fake, just claiming to be Fwh but not him truely? And, if it was the true Fwh, than wouldnt it make sence that his AIM name (IamFHQWHGADS142) wouldnt have numbers at the end, as the real Fwh would probably be the first person to make such a name and wouldnt require the numbers at the end of it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 12:45, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's NOT the Fun Fact in question. You're thinking of "Not expecting." This is different! Plus lemee just clarify this: in order to fully understand the esscense of THIS fact, you gotta forget it even HAD a predescessor (and all the information included in that one.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Well than, how did you get that information and those quotes? By talking to a person on AIM. How do you know that person was the real Fwh? You dont! Still '''Decline'''. --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:27, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' The person COULD have just wanted numbers in his screename. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 20:21, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Exactly! You tryin to say I should just be TakuaKaita? A little insulting. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]]
**'''Comment.''' The real Fwh would not have made an AIM name before writing the e-mail because it was random banging on the keyboard. Only once the e-mail had become famous would s/he have made that name. By that time, someone else likely took the AIM name first, forcing the real Fwh to add numbers.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Both versions hinge upon a quote from the purported foogoograss. The quote is impossible to verify. As a result, both fact and theory should be rejected. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:41, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Which is why "claimed" is used...look you gous are missing the point...the point is it wasn't based on the virus, not that I know Fwh. Besides, if proof is all you guys seem to care about, what "proof" do we have that it WAS based on the virus?[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 21:45, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I dunno, maybe the large Scare that passed during the same time this email was released? It could be an influence considering it wason every news station across the land. I mean honestly... And note: in order for it to be a fun '''fact''', it needs proof. Its not a fact without it! --[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.'''You're right. There is no proof. Frankly, I think the "virus" theory should be deleted/stuff-ed. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:30, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No proof, no fun fact in my opinion. If it requires furthur input, then let me say this. If it were me who sent the e-mail, I wouldn't go off and register a new AIM, e-mail or whatever, I'd just keep my own. However, I do disagree with the number theory. Maybe the numbers had significance. But anyway, there's no way to prove it so it can't be claimed a fact. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[date]]===
====Ren & Stimpy XR====
The logo for the Extra Real Dating Sim XR is based on the logo for the Nickelodeon cartoon "Ren & Stimpy".

*'''Decline.''' Close, but no cigar. It doesn't even use the Ren & Stimpy font. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:24, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Weak Second.''' Hmmm... but I don't really see how this would be a fun fact... [[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:28, 8 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''decline.exe''' Seriously, if this was any more of a stretch, it could reach Mars. ... Yeah, that was bad. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:44, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DOUBLE DECLINE!!!''' Along with "seconding" with the above, I was a die-hard Ren & Stimpy fan when they still showed it, and I don't remember anything vaguely remotely relating to the sim. Even if there was, it's more of a stretch than Silly Putty . [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
**'''Second!''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:21, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[the show]] ===
====Homestar's "Arms"====
Unless Homestar is holding the microphone under his armpit when he is reciting his list, this is another one of those times when it's questionable as to how many invisible arms he has: he holds the microphone in one hand, his cards in the other, and flips them over each other all at the same time.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:the show]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 12:15, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[suntan]] ===
====Marzipan's Parasol====
Marzipan is carrying a toothpick parasol one would normally receive with a tropical drink, only hers seems to be much larger than normal. Except that tropical drink parasols are modelled after real parasols . . . which are, you know, real . . .

''After a week of unanimous declines, this Fun Fact has been closed. The votes for this fun fact can be seen at the [[Talk:suntan|talk page]] of suntan.

=== [[local news]] ===
====Scalawag====
"Scalawag" may possibly be a reference to a Calvin and Hobbes strip in which Calvin and Hobbes sing the "Very Sorry Song" :
:(Calvin) "I'm sorry, so sorry I took your precious flaaaaag"
:(Hobbes) "Just don't do it again you scurvy scalawaaaaaag"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:local news]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[brianrietta]] ===
==== "Tough Guys"? ====
This is the only reference to homosexuality in the entire site, '''and thankfully Strong Bad handled it more maturely than most "tough guys" would have.'''

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, the majority of votes said to '''Decline''' this fact outright. Discussion moved to [[Talk:brianrietta]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:09, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Hom Sar Ref====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:00, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Trial Game origin====

The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====False Advertising====

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- tomstiff 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Special Appearance====
Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.

''After a week of unanimous declines, this fun fact has been rejected. You can see the votes at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].

====Whats Her Face's lack of appearance====

For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:54, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio====

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:22, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Tall homestar?====
In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Updated for the 90's====
Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.

'''Verdict:''' After two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:17, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]===
====Sweating====
Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:51, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====X-Pensive Winos====
The text "X-PENSIVE W..." appearing on Strong Bad's 'light pen' before he shakes it up may be a reference to Rolling Stones guitarist [[Wikipedia:Keith Richards|Keith Richards']] solo band the X-Pensive Winos.

*'''Decline.''' Stretchy "might be" reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Decline.''' The W is for "white". Could be a refence, but could just as easily not be. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' But we all know that the W stands for "witches' brew." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:41, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' Interesting, but it's a bit of a stretch. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 14:51, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:09, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''X-Pensive Decline.''' Since it is white-out, W for White makes the most sense. And substituting letter sounds for words or word parts is a common practice in product branding... X-tra this, E-Z that, etc. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:38, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Is there any evidence TBC are a fan of, or even aware of, this group? They seem to be more into the punk/alt rock/retro metal scene. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:13, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wecline.''' The W could stand for lots of things. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 07:54, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Rodeo Hot Dogs====
"Rodeo Hot dogs" is a reference to the old Oscar Meyer mascot.

*'''Decline.''' It's not "Rodeo Hot Dogs", it's "Rodeo and Tragic Clown Hot Dogs" - meaning the word "rodeo" modifies "clown" not "hot dogs" (in other words, It's a reference to rodeo clowns). Even so, this is a huge stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' There is no stretch as there is no basis in fact for this...fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Just read the [http://www.kraftfoods.com/om/bn/c_News/news_History1.htm Oscar Meyer company history] looking for a shred of eveidence. I could have missed it, but the article didn't mention a mascot, just the weinermobile. Let's have some evidence before asserting something as a fact! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*'''decline''' I think you mean the twinkie mascot -smooth criminal
*'''Decline on two fronts.'''' I doubt the Oscar MAYER mascot is a reference, and I doubt Twinkie The Kid is either (he's just a yellow sponge cake cowboy). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:01, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*A link would have been nice. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:09, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

'''Verdict:''' After almost a month of voting, this fact was voted to be '''Moved''' from Goofs to Remarks on [[long pants]]. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:long pants]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Bedroom Window====
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

'''Verdict:''' After almost a month of voting, this fact was '''Declined'''. Discussion moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 12:43, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Breaking the Lappy====
Strong Bad indicates that The Cheat has a history of breaking the Lappy. Perhaps The Cheat demonstrated this tendency with the Compy 386 as well. This may explain why the Compy apparently bore a grudge against The Cheat, as demonstrated in [[couch patch]].
*'''Decline.''' First, this is really a stretch. Second, The Cheat didn't break the Lappy—Strong Bad was making that up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:03, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second.''' The Cheat doesn't break the Lappy, Strong Bad just blames him for his own problems. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I've carefully set aside the time for '''declining''' this fun fact. Strong Bad is obviously using the Cheat as a scapegoat here. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:50, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.'''[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:51, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite, then accept.''' You have a good foundation, but you rambled a little bit. I would just cut it to the fact that SB said "broke the lappy again," intending that the Cheat maay have broken it before.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 18:08, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*There's gotta be a better word for '''Decline''' Strong Bad simply doesn't want to admit he broke it. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' I ALWAYS noticed this, and I always thought it was a problem with my browser handling Flash stuff too slow. But it seems to be the case that the "Holy Crap" comes too early. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 23:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[techno]]===
====Silent J====
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:techno]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[the bet]]===
====Forgotten Lie====
Strong bad says in the King of Town DVD that the King does not live in a castle. However, in this email he seems to have forgotten all about it.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad does things like this frequently, and it's not the first time he's lied about something, i.e. The Cheat not having a computer in [[huttah!]] -Walking Armless
*'''Rewrite and accept.''' The idea's there, but it's a little wordy. Cut it down maybe to something like "Strong Bad said in the DVD that he didn't have a castle, but aspparently he does here."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:06, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I disagree that anything noted as "so far" is bad (though "this is the first time" is usually more appropriate.) However, this fact isn't totally true as stated, so '''Rewrite and accept''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Cory====
The painting marked "Cory" is most likely a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]].
*'''BACLINED! Wait, no...''' OR it could be a reference to [[cheat talk]]. OR it could just be some randomly chosen name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:43, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Well, Cory from [[cheat talk]] was a real person, so TBC couldn't have come up with that. And cheat talk Cory is a city in the Homestarverse. Painting Cory and Camdidate Cory are people. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 12:54, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** So what if they didn't invent the name for cheat talk? The name still came up, so the "reference" is just as valid. And, as I said, there's the whole "randomly chosen name" scenario. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The answering machine could have been referring to a "Corey", or "Cori", not neccessarily "Cory".
*'''Most Likely Declined''' Your geekdar is overly sensitive, when was the last time you had an expert look at it? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

*Keep '''Mr. Mxyzptlk''' and '''The Great Gazoo'''. Scrap the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' The "Great Gazoo" bit is DEFINITELY a reference as the cartoon is a parody of Hanna Barbera cartoons. I'm not so certain about Mr. Mxyzptlk, but I do agree that it's a valid reference. However, I think Gazoo should come first, as per the Flintstones parody. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' Just did a little checking - Gazoo first appeared in 1964, while Mr. Mxyzptlk first appeared in 1987, as did Q (on the pilot of ST:TNG). Gazoo should be first in the fact as he's first chronologically, and while I'm still iffy about Mxyzptlk being included, seeing as how the title of the episode "Encounter at Groupulon 5" is a reference to the pilot of ST:TNG, I think the Q reference is definitely valid. Mighty Max is a huge stretch, though the hat and the "muddle me twice" line definitely seem to point to a Riddler reference. John Bozar seems to be an amalgam of all of them - this may be a TTATOT fact, but for once, there's a basis for it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment.''' According to Wikipedia, [[Wikipedia:Mr._Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]] was introduced in 1944. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Comment.''' My bad - I didn't realize he was THAT old. Curse the internet for diseminating false information! In any case, I still think he's an amalgam of Mxyzptlk, Gazoo, Q, and Riddler - but then we get into TTATOT territory. Still, with this being an OBVIOUS Hanna Barbera parody, I think Gazoo should take precedence. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:25, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I thought we'd already declined this TTATOT fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:50, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Actually Jay, I think we declined the fact about the guy with the metal jaw, not Bozar. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:54, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Albi refs Abdi?? ====
Strong calls the author of the email Albi, which is a reference to the author of the first email, [[some kinda robot]], who was named Abdi.

*'''Decline.''' Albi is short for Albin, not a reference to Abdi. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Yep. Yep. Yeap. Second.''' -Walking Armless
**'''Threecond.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*...urge to kill...rising... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Guitar throw refs [[invisibility]]?? ====
When Space Gary throws his guitar and says "I guess I won't be needing THIS anymore," it is a reference to [[invisibility]]. Strong Bad says the same thing when he gets rid of the broken [[Tandy 400]] and replaces it with the [[Compy 386]].

*'''Decline.''' Inflection is different, throwing is different than knocking off the desk, and the line isn't even the same ("And don't need THIS anymore"). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Go TheEggman!!''' Uh... I mean '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:56, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's a common phrase. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:14, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Oh please... are you surfing HR.com randomly looking for things to correlate? '''Decline!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:12, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== rrll == grrl ?? ====
The use of "rrll rrll" is probably the latest version of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]."

*'''Decline.''' The latest version, what? "rrll" is for "real", "grrl" is for "girl" - what's the relation, besides not using any vowels? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''¡Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:53, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Segundo.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:34, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*It's not even worth it to be sarcastic. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Rudiments ====
"rrll rrll" is a common short-hand notation for a [http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments/06longroll.html double-stroke roll], which is a percussion rudiment executed by playing two strokes on a single hand followed by two in the alternate hand and repeating.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:07, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting (and debating), this item was narrowly Accepted. It appears in a slightly rewritten form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Rewrite this item. It appears in its Accepted form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

Since no one can apparently agree to a consensus on this one, I'll try a revised version.

The mentioning of Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana were able to have success.

With that, I say this needs to be mentioned, because not everyone knows about exactly what happened. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accept New Vresion''' I gotta say that I'm liking this newer version by ISTK a lot more than the original one. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

'''Vredict:''' This fact was voted to be '''Rewritten and Moved'''. The revised fact now appears on [[best thing]], while the discussion can be found at [[Talk:best thing]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:44, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold was in question)

'''Verdict:''' After about a month of voting, the fact in bold was narrowly '''declined''' by a score of 2-3. The Star Trek reference has been put back on [[best thing]], while the entire discussion can be found on [[Talk:best thing]]. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:colonization]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:dragon]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:18, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

-Edited by [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]. (Link was to [[rock opera]], not dragon)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:36, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

'''Verdict:''' After almost two months of voting, this fact recieved a single '''Decline''' vote. Discussion moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:45, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''Verdict:''' After almost two months of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Where's The Cheat?]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:56, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== You killed Pom-Pom! ====
When storng bad said he killed pom-pom it may be a reference to south park and them "killing Kenny"

*'''Decline''' Uh...no. "Storng" Bad was just trying to scare Marzipan with a crank call. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:36, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unmatchable Decline''' Spell right, blast ye! -Walking Armless
*'''Delcine.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*You may be a reference to the superfluousness of the Shift Key... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Indelible Cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:30, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' First thing, this was disqualified with the "may be." Second off, no flippin' way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' If he always pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"? Just saying... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Almost everyone is saying that this is common. But really - other than "pimecone" and "pamcake", when has Homestar EVER switched Ms and Ns? I can't think of even one other time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Accurate, but not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:38, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move?''' Perhaps this would be worth noting in Homestar's character page?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:56, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' What, nobody can answer my question? Then this fact is very likely TRUE! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:31, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move.''' Substituting 'm' for 'n' may be a running gag... Leomard Sportsinterviews, anyone? --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:28, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:secret recipes]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:20, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:The Best Decemberween Ever]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:21, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk: Kick the Can]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was '''Declined''' by a score of 4-6. Discussion moved to [[Talk:other days]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:27, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Pizzle the Nizzle ====
The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:other days]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:55, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

'''VERDICT:''' This fun fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:24, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:20, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...
**'''Comment.''' You ''can'' fix these things yourself, you know. Anyway, I took care of it. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:56, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.'''Looks like grade-a fun fact material to me. Nice one. Don't know why it was stuff'd or why so many people seem to be declining it.

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Comment''' Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]]
*'''I decline thee! *smack*''' Homsar came back after being crushed by Heavy Lourde. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 16:08, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' If you applied this to TGS, they wouldn't have lasted 8 issues! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[funny]]===
====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Strong_Bad_is_in_Jail_Cartoon]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:02, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''-some Guest
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Makes sense to me. -Walking Armless

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' They probably decided on "frickin'" for the same reason Fricker's did: it sounds like "chicken". --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Here's a [http://www.frickers.com/locations.asp Frickin'] link!
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_4]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Decemberween_Teen_Girl_Squad]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====Fatty's Big Chance====
Fatty's Big Chance could be a reference to the [http://www.goonland.com Goonland] character "Fatty Big Eye" which looks similar to Fatty's Big Chance.
*'''Decline.''' The names look the same. The characters do not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:55, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''OT Comment (wasn't sure where to put this).''' Tomstiff, when you make an edit, you might want to try writing your summary after the asterisk-slash rather than before it. Otherwise, when you click on the entry's arrow on the history page, it won't take you to the proper section on the (rather lengthy) STUFF page. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:43, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Big Fat Decline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 21:45, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*"insert-random-flash-only-you-know-about" is not a valid source for TBC to reference. '''Hup Hup, Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:32, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:08, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_8]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:15, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** kerrek, vote in your post correctly, or your signature doesn't count.
*** anony, stfu with your sarcasm correctly, or your misplaced humor doesn't count. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 08:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Dreamail doesn't have a back button either. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:15, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

'''VERDICT''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:island]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:47, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:island]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

'''VERDICT:''' After several months of voting, this item was Accepted. It has been added to the Trivia section of [[2 years]] and the discussion is archived on the [[talk:2 years]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:51, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:2 years]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:2 years]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:44, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:55, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)
*'''Accept.''' [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:06, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

'''Verdict:''' After several months of voting, this fact was narrowly '''Accepted''' by a score of 3-2. The fact is now on [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], while the discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:00, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Slippers ====
Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:48, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless
**'''Decline for the pudgy.''' What the armless guy said. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1 after several weeks of voting, this item is accepted. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinio''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Since there is a staircase next to Homestr's room, either his room is on the second floor or he has a basement." That should take care of any confusion.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.
*'''Accepterific''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:07, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''ACCEPT'D!''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 10:49, 16 Apr 2005 (EST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was declined. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:animal]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:27, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:03, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.
*'''Decline''' There, you just said it yourself. Shortly ''>>'''AFTER'''<<'' the release of this e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Declination''' Isnt this already noted in the page somewhere? And if not, it is a little obvious.--[[User:-erson|Posted by -erson ]] 22:52, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.
*'''Decline.''' It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says. And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''No no no.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.
*'''Decline.''' Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Dr. Decline.''' An eyepatch is a common accessory for villains. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:35, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Weak Accept.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept, Second''' I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
*<strike>'''Actual Decline.'''</strike> All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! <strike>I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds.</strike> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I'd agree if just ''one'' CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they ''all'' have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh*''' Oh, great. Now ''I'm'' undecided, too. What's the real issue here? Is the shape there? Yes. Is it pretty well-formed? Yes. Did TBC put it there intentionally? I say no, but admittedly that's just a gut feeling. And you never know with those guys. So, as a straight "didja' notice?" fact, I'm persuaded to change my vote to '''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:06, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Definite Accept''' Also, the reason they All have the spot is that the Cheat Commandos are carbon copies of one image(with accessories, facial hair, etc.). Plus, Mickey's head would be in color; The Mickey logo, however, is the solid black tri-circle seen on the CC's. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' I mean, ''I'' think it's interesting... --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:41, 13 Apr 2005
*'''<strike>Kevin 'Cline''' It's just a dot. It may be in that shape, but it's definitely unintentional. I mean, do you ever intentionally draw your dots in the shape of Mickey Mouse heads?</strike> Eh. I'm neutralizing. And gasp at the below comment. (EDIT) Ouch. Just struck out everything. Damn slash. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Weak Decline.''' Google search for Hidden Mickeys if you're interested in the time-honored tradition for Disney artists to hide Mickey heads in everything they can get their hands on. That being said, he Mickey head I see on the Commandos is fairly deformed. The ears are too small and too close together, for instance. Since this probably wouldn't pass muster for a Hidden Mickey, I'm giving a pass on this fact. (and for SP, yes I do draw my dots in the shape of Mickey heads!) <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 00:42, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Revise Slightly.''' "All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking that looks like the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg." Fun, kind of interesting, and true, even if it wasn't on purpose!--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 22:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]] ===

==== For the little 'uns ====
All of the Cheat Commandos action figures are designed for ages "3 to 5".

*'''Accept.''' It says "ages 3-5" quite clearly at the bottom right of each action figure package. Why was this STUFF-ed? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 03:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag. <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either. <tt>Posted by: [[User:-erson|-erson]] [[User talk:-erson|Talk]]</tt> 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===
==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

'''VERDICT''' - A revised version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was '''Accepted''' by a score of 4-2. The fact has been re-posted on [[Strong Sad's Lament]], and the discussion can be found on [[Talk:Strong Sad's Lament]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*Not the first. I know, [[homsar]], [[homsar]]. But his message is longer than "Yeah, what is it Strong Bad?". Maybe with some rewording? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline, or severe rewrite.''' Given the fact that this could become false in the future, as well as the item's subjective opinion, this one shouldn't be included. And what about "Hey Reggie, is that rhinocerous around?" That's a legible sentence - in fact, everything he says is legible. It just doesn't make any sense. Possibly the word you're looking for is "intelligible" or something along the lines of "Homsar's message makes the most sense out of anything he has ever said." But again, you're dealing with the "could be become false later" issue. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:15, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:26, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept'''. Very noteworthy. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 02:00, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Opinion ("the most...ever") I don't think a rewrite would solve much. --[[User:The Paper|THE PAPER]] 16:42, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Severe Decline with a Complete Rewrite''' Is it noteworthy? Yes ... yes it is. Is it the most legible thing he's ever said? Dunno, I've never seen the Haddi-man's handwriting. It may be the most intelligible thing he's ever said ... to date. That's what makes this a bad fact: Homsar could become the most erudite cast member tomorrow. To quote from [http://www.ibras.dk/montypython/episode23.htm#3 Scott of the Sahara]...Rewrite! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:59, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I'm assuming this message was made in response to [[homsar]] to bring Homsar back since he was supposedly "killed". Also, since he was relatively new as a character, he wasn't as of yet uniquely nonsensical, as he is now. I'm believin' that's the reason this is the most legible thing he has ever written...I mean, said. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 02:02, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Yes, I meant intelligable, not legible. I forgot the word. I meant it makes sense the most. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:55, 16 April 2005 (MDT)
**Not to super nitpick, but the best word to use would probably be "sensible", since intelligible is just the ability to say words and sentences. He says stuff just fine, it just never makes any sense. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 03:07, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''"That's a real popular song! Who want's to hear that it's ACCEPTED!"''' Yep, I think this is a good point! Great job! *claps*--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 23:50, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite and Accept.''' Same thing that GillanTheVillain said. [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 08:31, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 10:57, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==Games==
===[[Thy Dungeonman]]===
====Earthbound====
Dungeonman might be a reference to Brick Road from "Earthbound," who was attempting to attain the title of "Dungeonman" throughout the course of the game.
*'''Decline''' Why, you ask? Let me explain the Dungeonman of Earthbound for a minute. The man attempts to MAKE dungeons, and in the end BECOMES a dungeon - which is not the same as Thy Dungeonman, who merely EXPLORES dungeons. And with no other connection, I can't let this one sit without a vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 04:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*(drops potato sacks) NO, IT'S NOT. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 10:57, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Peasant's Quest]]===
====Two names?====
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.
*'''Fhqwdlcinds''' So??? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So, rather dashing's real name name is Julio. Good catch! Just '''revise''' it so that its a little more obvious. Try:
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in
Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.
--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Me Declino Infinito.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:09, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''REWRITE'D!''' I was the one who wrote the thing anyway, so I rewrote it with -erson-san's suggestion. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:09, 14 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline the new one too''' It's still useless, and perhaps now moreso - are we next going to say that his name is Misspeller Jones? (Type "get plague" near the lantern.) It's a joke. Just go with it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' But, it might NOT be. Geez, why does everyone always decline everything around here? --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 10:45, 16 Apr 2005
*** Oh, wait, what was that word? "Might"? As in, you're not certain? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:08, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But the fact that Rather Dashing is saying "Me llamo Julio" as a conversation starter to the Kerrek would be a different case. Do you ever say "Hello my name is..." and mention an incorrect name? And about the "Misspeller Jones", is it not common for people to make up nicknames for people about their different characteristics? Like you call a clumbsy person "Butterfingers" even though his real name is Bob, or a bad typist "Misspeller Jones" even though his real name is Julio? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:34, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****It sounds to me like the sort of thing you'd find in the first five pages of a beginners' Spanish textbook, and without otherwise knowing what to say to the Kerrek, he just rambled relative nonsense. We know his real name, and it's not Julio. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:06, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******We dont ''know'' that his real name is Rather Dashing, the character doesn't actually say it himself. Just the narrator. And whos more likely to know his own name, the narrator or Rather Dashing? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 02:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*******So, at the end of the game, the NARRATOR tells Trogdor (who repeats it - in voice acting!) that his name is Rather Dashing? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:17, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
********Sorry, I never played to the end of the game. But honeslty, what are the odds that if he was talking nonsence he would utter a phrase that just happens to be a very popular opening statement when meeting new people? And, there is no where in the game where it tells you Rather Dashing can't speak Spanish. Perhaps he though Kerrek spoke spanish.
*********Yes, I just double-checked the ending. The narration says "You scream that your name is Rather Dashing", followed by a long speech with a computer voice reading along (a direct quote by Trogdor), ending in "It will be a pleasure to burninate you, Rather Dashing." One random piece of text may give small credence to your theory that RD's real name is Julio, but the entire rest of the game contradicts it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:24, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Perhaps a rewrite than to indiciate that Rather Dashing's name may be Julio according to that text?--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 02:31, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I don't think Fun Facts is a place for theories that "may be" true based on a possible interpretation of one statement. '''Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:30, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yet Another Comment.''' We all know that "rather dashing" is a term meaning you're good-looking. Maybe he just calls himself that because he thinks he's, well, good-looking. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:41, 17 Apr 2005 (EST)
*How do we know he just didn't read that off of a Spanish textbook? It's just as much speculation to say that Rather Dashing CAN speak Spanish as it is to say he can't. Can't you just accept that this is random TBC humor? Seriously, this is a bigger stretch than Dhalsim. '''Me llamo decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment Numero Tres.''' Look, we're never going to get anywhere like this, and I'm sick of the arguments. Someone lock this thing, PLEASE. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:53, 19 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' Throughout all of the Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer, Rather Dashing is referred to as ... Rather Dashing. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:25, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting this item was unanimously declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:53, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

'''Verdict:''' After several weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 23:09, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. '''All Your Second Are Belong To Us''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Black Spots====
Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

*'''Decline''' Maybe if I understood what this was saying I might like it more, but it still doesn't seem right. What do you guys think? -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declininated''' I don't get it. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:10, 19 Apr 2005
*'''Allow me''' I THINK what is being said is this:
The black portion of Stinkoman's mask is missing in his sprite form, because
it is a ripoff of Megaman sprites.
*However, this is pretty useless AND false (it's not a ripoff of Megaman sprites, just strongly based on them.) Most old, small sprites lack detail seen in their fully-drawn form. So I must concur with '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And you can't see Mario's nostrils in Super Mario Bros. So? '''Let's Declining Love''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you asking for a Decline?!?''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]
*'''Decline''' I'd agree with you, but there's proof that says otherwise.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:11, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
=== Cross-Toon Facts ===
==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1, this item is declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:The discussion can be found at the [[HRWiki:Select_The_Usable_Fun_Facts_Archive#Parents_.28declined.29|STUFF Archive]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:57, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

rampage

2005-04-22T11:03:56Z

Lunar Jesters: STUFF'D

[[Image:sbemail128.png|thumb|I'm on a rampage!]]
'''Strong Bad Email #128'''

Strong Bad reveals to Peter Comma the rampages he has been going on.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Strong Mad]], [[The King of Town]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[Coach Z]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Marzipan]], [[Homsar]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[King of Town's Castle]], [[Homestar's House]], [[The Stage]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]/[[Bubs' Ha-Ha-Halloween Comedy Club]]

'''Length:''' 3:41

'''Date:''' April 11, 2005

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Email, check it, come on, a-come on, y'all-a. Email check it, come on, a-come ''on'', y'all!

<pre>subject: Overdue rampage
Der Ong-stray Ad-bay,
I thinks it's been entirely too long since you went on a
rampage.
Sincerely Peter,</pre>

''{Strong Bad pronounces the misspelled "der". He also states "Sincerely Peter" as the closing greeting and "Comma" as the sender's name.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well, Epressing-day Erd-nay, I thinks it's been entirely too long since you consulted your M.L.A. handbook! ''{clears screen, returns typing}'' Eh, so maybe it has been a while since my last rampage. But that doesn't mean I'm goin' soft or nothin'. I've just grown more selective of the types of rampages on which I go. Like the other freakin' day: me and Strong Mad went on a Reading Rampage.

''{Strong Mad and Strong Bad are seen on The Couch with many books stacked around them. Strong Mad is holding a waffle that reads "BUG" in syrup, and Strong Bad reads "Smart Investing for Jerks". The waffle drips syrup onto the floor.}

'''STRONG BAD:''' Man, this book really speaks to me. In like, ''{flips book upside-down}'' a couple of different languages, even.

'''STRONG MAD:''' THIS BOOK IS TOO LONG!

''{Back at the computer, Strong Bad keeps typing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' See? It's not all rampage-stompin'-boy style rampages. The pie's the limit as far as rampages are concerned. Why, ye could go on a ''regal'' rampage.

''{Strong Bad appears in The King of Town's Castle, wearing a blanket around his neck, holding a scepter and wearing The King of Town's crown. The crownless King of Town stands nearby.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Whacking king with scepter}'' I bequeath thee! I bequeath thee! I bequeath thee!

'''KING OF TOWN:''' ''{While getting whacked}'' Ow! Ow! One more!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{raising scepter}'' Ye hath quivered me tuppence!

'''KING OF TOWN:''' Oops, you lost me!

''{Strong Bad whacks King with scepter two more times.}''

'''KING OF TOWN:''' ''{While getting whacked}'' OW! OW!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Voice-over}'' Ooh, ooh! Or how about a legal rampage?

''{Cut to the outside of Homestar's House, with Homestar peeking out the door and Strong Bad walking in in a business suit with a bunch of papers}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' This is a sub-po-ena! ''{throws papers onto steps}'' I summons exhibit 4-B to my chambers!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Sustained! ''{pulls out judge's gavel and hits himself 3 times, accompanied by sound effects}''

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' And don't forget the lyrical rampages me and Coach Z are ''always'' going on. Or more like, going OOORRRRFF! ''{The last word is said in a fake Coach Z accent.}''

''{Cut to the Stage, where Strong Bad and Coach Z are standing with microphones. Music is playing in the background}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm on a rampage!

'''COACH Z:''' I've got problems with my feet and my back!

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm on a rampage!

'''COACH Z:''' I'm about to have a dope rhyme attack!

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm on a rampage!

'''COACH Z:''' Coach Z, rock all type of sports!

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm on a rampage!

'''COACH Z:''' And if you don't believe me, you can get with the Chort!

''{Cut to the Cheat, who is scratching on a children's record player. Then Strong Sad enters. The music screeches to a halt.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' May I please ask how repeating the same four words constitutes a lyrical rampage?

'''STRONG BAD:''' May ''I'' please ask how a round mound of gray fatness constitutes a younger brother? ''{Points at the audience.}'' I'm on a rampage!

'''STRONG SAD:''' But what about rules of verse? Iambic pentameter is where it's at! Hit it, The Cheat!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{angrily}'' Meh?

'''STRONG SAD:''' I dunno, drop some beats or something.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, they're gonna have to be fat beats in your case. Go ahead, The Cheat. Let's witness the whiteness.

'''THE CHEAT:''' Meh.

''{The Cheat starts the record player - playing a very childish "beat".}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' The ''quill!'' The ''page!'' Ly-''ric,'' ram-''page!'' Ummmm... Word ''up?''

''{Strong Bad and Coach Z snicker}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, that was great, Strong Sad. I didn't know you was hard! ''{pronounced "hawd"}'' Remind me again: what part of the streets are you from, exactly? ''{snickers again}''

'''COACH Z:''' You're a real MC, Strong Sad! A ''master of ceremonies!''

''{Coach Z and Strong Bad laugh for a moment, until Strong Bad realizes what was just said.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Er, wait...

'''STRONG SAD:''' Forget you guys! It went over great at my Poetry Slam!

''{Cut to the side of Bubs' Concession Stand, which still has the comedy club decorations, but has a banner marked "Poetry Slam" in front of them. Strong Sad stands by the microphone, while silhouettes of Marzipan and Homsar are in the foreground.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' The ''quill!'' The ''page!'' Ly-''ric,'' ram-''page!'' Word ''up?''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Good style there, Strong Sad! Geoff Chaucer would be would be  proud!

'''HOMSAR:''' AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Caramel corn for president, please!

''{Cut back to the Stage}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, run along, DJ Dumpy Dump! We gotta get back to rampagin'!

'''COACH Z:''' 'Ey, maybe we should start calling you "SS"! For ''Strong Sad!'' ''{laughs maniacally}''

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat stare at Coach Z increduously}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{to Coach Z}'' What is wrong with you?

''{the beat starts again}''

'''COACH Z:''' I'm bad at abbreviations!

'''STRONG BAD:''' You're on a rampage?

'''COACH Z:''' The number one jam on all the stations!

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Ya see Comma, ''{pronounces both the name "Comma" and the actual comma}'' you can still hurt people and their feelings with all manner of different rampages. Until next time, bailiff, I'll be in my chambers. I mean, The Cheat, I'll be in my office... which is this room. ''{quickly}'' So, I'll be right here.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down}''

== Easter Eggs ==

*At the end of the e-mail, click on "rampages" for a parody of the classic video game [[Wikipedia:Rampage (arcade game).|Rampage]], published by Bally Midway in 1986. In this, a The Cheat-like monster runs across the screen holding underpants. After some time, Strong Mad runs on the screen and a speech bubble over his head says "MY PANTIES! MY PANTIES!". It reappears after a while.
*Also at the end, click on "chambers" to see the poster for [[Litigation Jackson]] 2: Legal Rampage.
*Again at the end, click on "different" to see a Strong Sad CD. Unlike other CD-related easter eggs, this one does not let you hear a song when clicked.

== Fun Facts ==
=== Explanations ===
*When Peter says "Ong-stray Ad-bay" and Strong Bad says "epressing-day erd-nay," this is a fake language called [[Wikipedia:Pig Latin|Pig Latin]]. Translated, Peter said "Strong Bad," and Strong Bad said "depressing nerd."
*The M.L.A. Handbook for Writers of Research Papers is a guide for punctuation, quotation, and documentation of sources published by the ''[http://www.mla.org/ Modern Language Association]''. It is the most popular standard for academic writing.
*Shortly after referring to the M.L.A. Handbook, Strong Bad writes, "I've just grown more selective of the types of rampages on which I go." The slightly odd phrasing at the end of the sentence ("on which I go" rather than the more natural "which I go on") pokes fun at a rule of formal writing (as the M.L.A. explains) that no sentence should end with a preposition. In the very next sentence, however, Strong Bad uses the grossly ungrammatical construction "me and Strong Mad..." (instead of "Strong Mad and I..."), and later "me and Coach Z...."
*Definitions of Strong Bad's "regal" language:
**''[http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=bequeath&x=12&y=15 bequeath]'': verb, To leave or give (personal property) by will. To pass (something) on to another; hand down.
**''[http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=quiver quiver]'': 1. verb, To shake with a slight, rapid, tremulous movement. 2. noun, a case for carrying arrows. 3. noun, the arrows in a quiver.
**''[http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=tuppence tuppence]'': noun, British variant of twopence, or two pennies. Esp. in [[Wikipedia:British coinage|pre-decimal coinage]].

*Strong Sad mentions [[Wikipedia:Iambic pentameter|iambic pentameter]], which is a syllable pattern used in poetry. An iamb is a pair of syllables, the first unstressed and the second stressed. Iambic pentameter is five iambs per line. Strong Sad says "The ''quill!'' The ''page!'' Ly-''ric,'' ram-''page!'' Word ''up?''" in exaggerated iambic pentameter. Note that "lyric" and "rampage" are normally pronounced with the first syllable accented, so Strong Sad's line is not truly iambic pentameter. Iambic pentameter was popular with such poets as [[Wikipedia:William Shakespeare|William Shakespeare]] and [[Wikipedia:Geoffrey Chaucer|Geoffrey Chaucer]], and was for a long time the standard English meter.

=== Trivia ===
*Reading Rampage book titles:
**Sweatshirtguy
**The R in Routine
**Soup, Right?
**Brown Story
**Biscuit
**Smart Investing for Jerks

*The beat that The Cheat plays when Strong Sad asks him to "drop some fat beats" is the same beat used in the Free Trial game in [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].

=== Remarks ===
*This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.
*After he stops speaking, Homsar's hat still hovers in mid-air instead of returning to his head.
*It's interesting that Strong Bad advises Peter to consult his "M.L.A. handbook"; if he'd checked his own, he would have seen that the [[Wikipedia:Modern Language Association|MLA]] doesn't use periods when it refers to itself.

=== Inside References ===
* One of the books in Strong Bad and Strong Mad's Reading Rampage is titled "The R in Routine", a reference to one of Strong Bad's lines in [[morning routine]].
* The scene in the ''Rampage'' video game easter egg of Strong Mad chasing the Cheat is also from [[morning routine]].
* "Poetry Slam" is the title of Strong Sad's character page.
* The glasses Strong Mad is wearing are from his costume in the [[Email Processing Room]].
* In the Rampage easter egg, The Cheat looks like Predator The Cheat from the DVD Sketchbook feature.

=== Real-World References ===
* On Strong Sad's CD (when "different" is clicked), there is a "Parental Advisory" warning for "Very Boring". This advisory is a parody of the advisories found on music albums containing explicit lyrics or otherwise offensive content. Parental Advisory labels became required by most record companies in America following the 1985 "Porn Rock" congressional hearings spearheaded by the [[Wikipedia:Parents Music Resource Center|Parents Music Resource Center]] (PMRC), led by Tipper Gore.
* The Cheat uses an old '80s Fisher-Price record player to "drop some beats." The drum beats he plays to back Strong Sad are from a Yamaha PSS-180 home keyboard's "custom drummer" section.
*"Smart Investing for Jerks" is a reference to the numerous [[Wikipedia:...For Dummies|...For Dummies]] books, which insult the reader in their title.
*It's rumored that the song playing during "lyric rampage" is the beat to Jay-Z's Song Dope Man from Volume Three; Life and Times of S. Carter.
** Or, that song could be the theme of the old TV show, SWAT.
* "Geoff Chaucer" refers to [[Wikipedia:Geoffrey Chaucer|Geoffrey Chaucer]], a 14th century English poet famous for [[Wikipedia:The Canterbury Tales|The Canterbury Tales]].

== External Links ==
* [[HR:sbemail128.html|watch "rampage"]]
* [[HR:sbemail128.swf|view the Flash file for "rampage"]]
* [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=2678&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight= forum thread re: "rampage"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}

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rampage

2005-04-22T11:00:28Z

Lunar Jesters: Strong Sad is fat, not phat.

[[Image:sbemail128.png|thumb|I'm on a rampage!]]
'''Strong Bad Email #128'''

Strong Bad reveals to Peter Comma the rampages he has been going on.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Strong Mad]], [[The King of Town]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[Coach Z]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Marzipan]], [[Homsar]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[King of Town's Castle]], [[Homestar's House]], [[The Stage]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]/[[Bubs' Ha-Ha-Halloween Comedy Club]]

'''Length:''' 3:41

'''Date:''' April 11, 2005

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Email, check it, come on, a-come on, y'all-a. Email check it, come on, a-come ''on'', y'all!

<pre>subject: Overdue rampage
Der Ong-stray Ad-bay,
I thinks it's been entirely too long since you went on a
rampage.
Sincerely Peter,</pre>

''{Strong Bad pronounces the misspelled "der". He also states "Sincerely Peter" as the closing greeting and "Comma" as the sender's name.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well, Epressing-day Erd-nay, I thinks it's been entirely too long since you consulted your M.L.A. handbook! ''{clears screen, returns typing}'' Eh, so maybe it has been a while since my last rampage. But that doesn't mean I'm goin' soft or nothin'. I've just grown more selective of the types of rampages on which I go. Like the other freakin' day: me and Strong Mad went on a Reading Rampage.

''{Strong Mad and Strong Bad are seen on The Couch with many books stacked around them. Strong Mad is holding a waffle that reads "BUG" in syrup, and Strong Bad reads "Smart Investing for Jerks". The waffle drips syrup onto the floor.}

'''STRONG BAD:''' Man, this book really speaks to me. In like, ''{flips book upside-down}'' a couple of different languages, even.

'''STRONG MAD:''' THIS BOOK IS TOO LONG!

''{Back at the computer, Strong Bad keeps typing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' See? It's not all rampage-stompin'-boy style rampages. The pie's the limit as far as rampages are concerned. Why, ye could go on a ''regal'' rampage.

''{Strong Bad appears in The King of Town's Castle, wearing a blanket around his neck, holding a scepter and wearing The King of Town's crown. The crownless King of Town stands nearby.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Whacking king with scepter}'' I bequeath thee! I bequeath thee! I bequeath thee!

'''KING OF TOWN:''' ''{While getting whacked}'' Ow! Ow! One more!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{raising scepter}'' Ye hath quivered me tuppence!

'''KING OF TOWN:''' Oops, you lost me!

''{Strong Bad whacks King with scepter two more times.}''

'''KING OF TOWN:''' ''{While getting whacked}'' OW! OW!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Voice-over}'' Ooh, ooh! Or how about a legal rampage?

''{Cut to the outside of Homestar's House, with Homestar peeking out the door and Strong Bad walking in in a business suit with a bunch of papers}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' This is a sub-po-ena! ''{throws papers onto steps}'' I summons exhibit 4-B to my chambers!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Sustained! ''{pulls out judge's gavel and hits himself 3 times, accompanied by sound effects}''

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' And don't forget the lyrical rampages me and Coach Z are ''always'' going on. Or more like, going OOORRRRFF! ''{The last word is said in a fake Coach Z accent.}''

''{Cut to the Stage, where Strong Bad and Coach Z are standing with microphones. Music is playing in the background}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm on a rampage!

'''COACH Z:''' I've got problems with my feet and my back!

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm on a rampage!

'''COACH Z:''' I'm about to have a dope rhyme attack!

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm on a rampage!

'''COACH Z:''' Coach Z, rock all type of sports!

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm on a rampage!

'''COACH Z:''' And if you don't believe me, you can get with the Chort!

''{Cut to the Cheat, who is scratching on a children's record player. Then Strong Sad enters. The music screeches to a halt.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' May I please ask how repeating the same four words constitutes a lyrical rampage?

'''STRONG BAD:''' May ''I'' please ask how a round mound of gray fatness constitutes a younger brother? ''{Points at the audience.}'' I'm on a rampage!

'''STRONG SAD:''' But what about rules of verse? Iambic pentameter is where it's at! Hit it, The Cheat!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{angrily}'' Meh?

'''STRONG SAD:''' I dunno, drop some beats or something.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, they're gonna have to be fat beats in your case. Go ahead, The Cheat. Let's witness the whiteness.

'''THE CHEAT:''' Meh.

''{The Cheat starts the record player - playing a very childish "beat".}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' The ''quill!'' The ''page!'' Ly-''ric,'' ram-''page!'' Ummmm... Word ''up?''

''{Strong Bad and Coach Z snicker}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, that was great, Strong Sad. I didn't know you was hard! ''{pronounced "hawd"}'' Remind me again: what part of the streets are you from, exactly? ''{snickers again}''

'''COACH Z:''' You're a real MC, Strong Sad! A ''master of ceremonies!''

''{Coach Z and Strong Bad laugh for a moment, until Strong Bad realizes what was just said.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Er, wait...

'''STRONG SAD:''' Forget you guys! It went over great at my Poetry Slam!

''{Cut to the side of Bubs' Concession Stand, which still has the comedy club decorations, but has a banner marked "Poetry Slam" in front of them. Strong Sad stands by the microphone, while silhouettes of Marzipan and Homsar are in the foreground.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' The ''quill!'' The ''page!'' Ly-''ric,'' ram-''page!'' Word ''up?''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Good style there, Strong Sad! Geoff Chaucer would be would be  proud!

'''HOMSAR:''' AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Caramel corn for president, please!

''{Cut back to the Stage}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, run along, DJ Dumpy Dump! We gotta get back to rampagin'!

'''COACH Z:''' 'Ey, maybe we should start calling you "SS"! For ''Strong Sad!'' ''{laughs maniacally}''

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat stare at Coach Z increduously}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{to Coach Z}'' What is wrong with you?

''{the beat starts again}''

'''COACH Z:''' I'm bad at abbreviations!

'''STRONG BAD:''' You're on a rampage?

'''COACH Z:''' The number one jam on all the stations!

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Ya see Comma, ''{pronounces both the name "Comma" and the actual comma}'' you can still hurt people and their feelings with all manner of different rampages. Until next time, bailiff, I'll be in my chambers. I mean, The Cheat, I'll be in my office... which is this room. ''{quickly}'' So, I'll be right here.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down}''

== Easter Eggs ==

*At the end of the e-mail, click on "rampages" for a parody of the classic video game [[Wikipedia:Rampage (arcade game).|Rampage]], published by Bally Midway in 1986. In this, a The Cheat-like monster runs across the screen holding underpants. After some time, Strong Mad runs on the screen and a speech bubble over his head says "MY PANTIES! MY PANTIES!". It reappears after a while.
*Also at the end, click on "chambers" to see the poster for [[Litigation Jackson]] 2: Legal Rampage.
*Again at the end, click on "different" to see a Strong Sad CD. Unlike other CD-related easter eggs, this one does not let you hear a song when clicked.

== Fun Facts ==
=== Explanations ===
*When Peter says "Ong-stray Ad-bay" and Strong Bad says "epressing-day erd-nay," this is a fake language called [[Wikipedia:Pig Latin|Pig Latin]]. Translated, Peter said "Strong Bad," and Strong Bad said "depressing nerd."
*The M.L.A. Handbook for Writers of Research Papers is a guide for punctuation, quotation, and documentation of sources published by the ''[http://www.mla.org/ Modern Language Association]''. It is the most popular standard for academic writing.
*Shortly after referring to the M.L.A. Handbook, Strong Bad writes, "I've just grown more selective of the types of rampages on which I go." The slightly odd phrasing at the end of the sentence ("on which I go" rather than the more natural "which I go on") pokes fun at a rule of formal writing (as the M.L.A. explains) that no sentence should end with a preposition. In the very next sentence, however, Strong Bad uses the grossly ungrammatical construction "me and Strong Mad..." (instead of "Strong Mad and I..."), and later "me and Coach Z...."
*Definitions of Strong Bad's "regal" language:
**''[http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=bequeath&x=12&y=15 bequeath]'': verb, To leave or give (personal property) by will. To pass (something) on to another; hand down.
**''[http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=quiver quiver]'': 1. verb, To shake with a slight, rapid, tremulous movement. 2. noun, a case for carrying arrows. 3. noun, the arrows in a quiver.
**''[http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=tuppence tuppence]'': noun, British variant of twopence, or two pennies. Esp. in [[Wikipedia:British coinage|pre-decimal coinage]].

*Strong Sad mentions [[Wikipedia:Iambic pentameter|iambic pentameter]], which is a syllable pattern used in poetry. An iamb is a pair of syllables, the first unstressed and the second stressed. Iambic pentameter is five iambs per line. Strong Sad says "The ''quill!'' The ''page!'' Ly-''ric,'' ram-''page!'' Word ''up?''" in exaggerated iambic pentameter. Note that "lyric" and "rampage" are normally pronounced with the first syllable accented, so Strong Sad's line is not truly iambic pentameter. Iambic pentameter was popular with such poets as [[Wikipedia:William Shakespeare|William Shakespeare]] and [[Wikipedia:Geoffrey Chaucer|Geoffrey Chaucer]], and was for a long time the standard English meter.

=== Trivia ===
*Reading Rampage book titles:
**Sweatshirtguy
**The R in Routine
**Soup, Right?
**Brown Story
**Biscuit
**Smart Investing for Jerks

*The beat that The Cheat plays when Strong Sad asks him to "drop some fat beats" is the same beat used in the Free Trial game in [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].

=== Remarks ===
*This is the first time we've ever heard Coach Z actually laugh.
*After he stops speaking, Homsar's hat still hovers in mid-air instead of returning to his head.
*It's interesting that Strong Bad advises Peter to consult his "M.L.A. handbook"; if he'd checked his own, he would have seen that the [[Wikipedia:Modern Language Association|MLA]] doesn't use periods when it refers to itself.

=== Inside References ===
* One of the books in Strong Bad and Strong Mad's Reading Rampage is titled "The R in Routine", a reference to one of Strong Bad's lines in [[morning routine]].
* The scene in the ''Rampage'' video game easter egg of Strong Mad chasing the Cheat is also from [[morning routine]].
* "Poetry Slam" is the title of Strong Sad's character page.
* The glasses Strong Mad is wearing are from his costume in the [[Email Processing Room]].
* "Number one jam" is possibly a reference to [[time capsule]].
* In the Rampage easter egg, The Cheat looks like Predator The Cheat from the DVD Sketchbook feature.

=== Real-World References ===
* On Strong Sad's CD (when "different" is clicked), there is a "Parental Advisory" warning for "Very Boring". This advisory is a parody of the advisories found on music albums containing explicit lyrics or otherwise offensive content. Parental Advisory labels became required by most record companies in America following the 1985 "Porn Rock" congressional hearings spearheaded by the [[Wikipedia:Parents Music Resource Center|Parents Music Resource Center]] (PMRC), led by Tipper Gore.
* The Cheat uses an old '80s Fisher-Price record player to "drop some beats." The drum beats he plays to back Strong Sad are from a Yamaha PSS-180 home keyboard's "custom drummer" section.
*"Smart Investing for Jerks" is a reference to the numerous [[Wikipedia:...For Dummies|...For Dummies]] books, which insult the reader in their title.
*It's rumored that the song playing during "lyric rampage" is the beat to Jay-Z's Song Dope Man from Volume Three; Life and Times of S. Carter.
** Or, that song could be the theme of the old TV show, SWAT.
* "Geoff Chaucer" refers to [[Wikipedia:Geoffrey Chaucer|Geoffrey Chaucer]], a 14th century English poet famous for [[Wikipedia:The Canterbury Tales|The Canterbury Tales]].

== External Links ==
* [[HR:sbemail128.html|watch "rampage"]]
* [[HR:sbemail128.swf|view the Flash file for "rampage"]]
* [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=2678&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight= forum thread re: "rampage"]

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flag day

2005-04-22T10:55:20Z

Lunar Jesters: Fun Fact.

[[Image:sbemail32.PNG|thumb|Our national colors]]

'''Strong Bad Email #32'''

Pablo wishes Strong Bad a happy Flag Day.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Mad]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strongbadia]]

'''Date:''' June 17, 2002

'''Running Time:''' 2:00

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Rabilla dabilla check e-mail.''{stops singing}''

<pre>Hey Strong Bad

Happy Flag Day! I bet you have a totally awesome
flag for Strong Badia. You should share it with us.

Your pal,
Pablo
Phoenix</pre>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, you sound like some kind of popstar, man. Look Out Ladies Production presents: Pablo Phoenix, this Friday at the civic center. ''{typing}'' Anyways, Pablo. Happy Flag Day to you too, man. It just so happens Strong Badia has about the coolest flag you ever saw. ''{His voice starts echoing a lot, like he's speaking in front of a really large crowd}'' Would everyone please rise for the presentation of our national colors.

''{The Cheat is standing beside the flag pole and pulls up the flag of Strongbadia. The flag has three horizontal stripes, one red, one white, and one brown. In the middle, there's a picture of a green snake holding a knife in its tail and crawling through a tire. The Cheat starts playing on a synthesizer.}''

=== Strong Badia National Anthem ===

''{spoken}'' (Oh... Oh, I like that! Oh yeah!)

''{singing}'' Come to the place where tropical breezes blow.

Come to the coolest place I know.

The people are so great,

But really there's only me,

And that means I'm so great,

And also there's The Cheat.

Oh there's The Cheat in the place where the tropical breezes blow.

The Cheat in the coolest place I know.

The ones are always cold,

And the parties last all night,

And there's probably lots of chocolate,

And population tire.

Population

Tiiiiiiiiiiiiire

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==

*When Strong Bad starts talking about Pablo's name you can click on it to see a mock-ticket for an event with [[Limozeen]]. It says
<pre>Look Out Ladies Productions Presents
An Evening with
Pablo Phoenix
w/ Special Guest
Limozeen
Civic Center
Fri 21 June 2002 7:35pm</pre>

*After Strong Bad's coin, you can quickly click on The Cheat and see his coin.

== Fun Facts ==
===Freeze Frame Action===
*The Cheat's coin reads "2 Bits" and "A Bad Penny".
===Trivia===
*This cartoon marks another of the very few times blood is seen in a Homestar Runner cartoon, when Strong Bad is seen drawing the Strongbadia coat-of-arms on Strong Mad's arm with an X-Acto Knife.
*This is the last proper [[Tandy 400]] e-mail before it blows up.
===Remarks===
*The flag is made up of parts of Strongbadia. The brown part represents the dirt, the white part represents the fence with the jagged top, and the red part possibly represents Strong Bad himself or the Stop Sign. The [[Tire]] is next to the fence and the [[Big Knife]] is from numerous places. The snake doesn't seem to represent anything of Strongbadia in particular.
**However, it may be an evocation of an early American flag, the [http://www.gadsden.info/ Gadsden Flag], which bore a snake with the legend "Don't Tread On Me," expressing fierce independence.

===Inside References===
*On the ticket to Pablo Phoenix's event, all the way on the right, vertically, it says "no refunds no delabors," which is a reference to the numerous members of the Delabor family that work at [[Thorax Corporation]].

==DVD Version==
*All of this email's eggs can still be viewed using the angle button.
*The DVD version also has a hidden creator's commentary. You can access it by switching your DVD player's audio language selection while watching the email.

===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' Hello, this is more commentary.

'''MIKE:''' This is more commentary, too. Thank you for joining us.

'''MATT:''' Uh... I think Pablo Phoenix was, well, back when we had a message board on the website—

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, he was one of the regulars

'''MATT:''' —was one of the regulars, yeah, which was kind of cool. We didn't know, tha—well, a— well, at the time, but later on he showed up and... true.

'''MIKE:''' Something we often talk about is the orignal lyrics to the Strong Badia National Anthem

'''MATT:''' Oh yeah, tell them—they're written down somewhere

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, I think I sang those this morning. Um, which were "This one is great, truly truly great"

'''MATT:''' "The land of all people, the land of different stuff"

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Yeah

'''MATT:''' Or something like that.

'''MIKE:''' It ''had'' to be changed

'''MATT:''' It was not good at all. And, uh

'''MIKE:''' ''{singing}'' This one is great, truly truly great.

'''MATT:''' ''{joins in}'' Truly truly great... ''{spoken very quickly}'' thelandofallpeoplethelandofdifferentstuff. Um, so the scale here, that's a tiny Strongbadia flag there, Mike. The Cheat should've been much smaller.

'''MIKE:''' Heh, that's true. The scale... We're not very consistent with our scale.

'''MATT:''' Yeah... We should make a style guide.

'''MIKE:''' ''You'' can make a style guide.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, ''you'' can make one, more like.

''{Mike laughs}''

'''MATT:''' Um... So this is the first appearance of Strong Bad.

''{Mike and Matt laugh}''

'''MATT:''' Look, that's the year I was born! 1976! Thanks, Mike, did you do that on purpose?

'''MIKE:''' I think I did.

'''MATT:''' Awww, you guys!

'''MIKE:''' And all the action figures always cost $11 and one cent, which is your birthday.

'''MATT:''' Eleven oh one!

'''MIKE:''' November 1st. Now everyone knows your birthday so maybe they'll get you presents!

'''MATT:''' Don't get me any presents guys! Uh, I always wanted you to—you didn't do a clink there. I think I even made a clinking sound effect for those two bottles and you didn't put it in.

'''MIKE:''' There's lots of—

'''MATT:''' 'Cause Mike finished this up, I remember that. I had to go out of town.

'''MIKE:''' There's no—

'''MATT:''' And Mike finished it up. Well yeah, but it ''clearly'' deserves a sound effect.

'''MIKE:''' Well there's ''lots'' of things that... You don't hear the X-Acto knife carving into Strong Mad's flesh sound that we always use.

'''MATT:''' That, that's true. This is what it sounds like. ''{Matt makes a gross-sounding carving sound effect with his mouth}''

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail32.html|watch "flag day"]]
*[[HR:sbemail32.swf|view the Flash file for "flag day"]]

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spring cleaning

2005-04-19T14:23:54Z

Lunar Jesters: That doesn't conceed with oNCE AND oNLY oNCE.

[[Image:sbemail20.PNG|thumb|'''DELETED!!''']]

'''Strong Bad Email #20'''

Caitlyn, steve, Mike, Chad, and Sue have some questions for Strong Bad. He'd rather not answer them, making a [[DELETED]] free-for-all.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]]

'''Date:''' April 1, 2002

'''Duration:''' 1:25

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hello, everybody! This week it's time for some spring cleaning. Ready? Go!

<pre>Dear Strong Bad,
Why do you hate Homestar so much? He seems
like a nice guy to me.
Caitlyn</pre>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, what a good question! Let me think about how I should answer that...

'''''DELETED!!'''''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ha ha ha, that felt great. What's next?

<pre>Do you have a secret crush with marzipan?
steve
sterling, VA</pre>

''{Strong Bad prounounces VA as "Vah"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ah, this question is definitely worth my time and consideration.

'''''DELETED!!'''''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh ho ho, this is getting good!

<pre>Dear Strong Bad,
How do you type with boxing gloves on?
Mike,
Bend Oregon</pre>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, that's a new one. No way do I get this freaking question all the time. I suppose I'll probably answer it right now.

'''''DELETED!!'''''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{laughing}'' Whoa, who's next man?

<pre>Dear Strong Bad,

Are you made of crap? Did you invent the word crap?
Where did the word crap come from?

Crapfully crapfully,
Chad</pre>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, I'll totally answer this one because apparently the only thing I'm concerned with is the word crap—

'''''DELETED!!'''''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, I'm on a roll!

<pre>Strong Bad,
Your last email was pathetic. I was disappointed.
Come on, you can do better than that! This is like
the highlight of my week.
Surprised at your lack of humor,
Sue</pre>

''{Instead of saying "Sue", he says and types "deleted".}''

'''''DELETED!!'''''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aaaah! I feel so cleansed. So fresh and so clean, clean. Okay, so until next time, ain't nobody dope as me.

''{[[The Paper]] comes out and it says "Click here to e-mail strong bad", click on the text to email him.}''

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*Sue, who notes that last week's email was "pathetic", was referring to [[tape-leg]].

===Trivia===
*This is the first email where the screen flashes [[DELETED]]!! when Strong Bad deletes something.
*This is the first appearance of a "[[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?]]" email.
* This is the last email where The Paper reads, "Click here to e-mail Strong Bad."

===Remarks===
*When Strong Bad answers Susan's email, he types "DELETED" then presses enter. All the other times he deleted emails here, though, he never typed in "DELETED"—he simply hit one key on the keyboard.

===Real-World References===
*The last few lines are from a song by OutKast called 'So Fresh, So Clean'; that's why he said 'Clean' twice. The song's chorus goes ''Ain't nobody dope as me, I'm just so fresh and clean (so fresh and so clean, clean). ''The song is featured on the albums "Stankonia" and "Big Boi and Dre Present...OutKast".''''

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail20.html|watch "spring cleaning"]]
*[[HR:sbemail20.swf|view the Flash file for "spring cleaning"]]

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Tape-leg

2005-04-19T14:20:27Z

Lunar Jesters: Chronological order.

[[Image:tapelegtwo.png|thumb|Strong Bad shows some leg — tape leg, that is.]]
'''Tape leg''' is a recurring inside joke that originated, oddly enough, from the email "[[tape-leg]]." A fan asked [[Strong Bad]] if his leg was made out of tape, and Strong Bad quickly dismissed the question. This email is generally considered to be one of the worst [[Strong Bad Email|emails]] ever, but Strong Bad insists that "the tape leg is cool."

== Sightings ==
*In [[tape-leg]], the infamous reference premieres courtesy of a piece of tape on Strong Bad's shoe.
*In [[spring cleaning]], Sue claims the last email was pathetic when the last email was tape-leg.
*In [[50 emails]], Strong Bad declares his favorite leg is either the Great Leg, the Leg of Hope, or perhaps even Tape-Leg.
*In [[The System is Down]], Homestar mocks the tape leg email while Strong Bad staunchly defends it.
*In [[personal favorites]], one of Strong Bad's favorite emails is the fictional "Tape Leg Two."

[[Category: Running Gags]]

Tape-leg

2005-04-19T14:16:50Z

Lunar Jesters: Sue.

[[Image:tapelegtwo.png|thumb|Strong Bad shows some leg — tape leg, that is.]]
'''Tape leg''' is a recurring inside joke that originated, oddly enough, from the email "[[tape-leg]]." A fan asked [[Strong Bad]] if his leg was made out of tape, and Strong Bad quickly dismissed the question. This email is generally considered to be one of the worst [[Strong Bad Email|emails]] ever, but Strong Bad insists that "the tape leg is cool."

== Sightings ==
*In [[tape-leg]], the infamous reference premieres courtesy of a piece of tape on Strong Bad's shoe.
*In [[50 emails]], Strong Bad declares his favorite leg is either the Great Leg, the Leg of Hope, or perhaps even Tape-Leg.
*In [[personal favorites]], one of Strong Bad's favorite emails is the fictional "Tape Leg Two."
*In [[The System is Down]], Homestar mocks the tape leg email while Strong Bad staunchly defends it.
*In [[spring cleaning]], Sue claims the last email was pathetic when the last email was tape-leg.

[[Category: Running Gags]]

stand-up

2005-04-19T13:18:11Z

Lunar Jesters: He looks down.

[[Image:sbemail18.PNG|thumb|Little Strong Bad needs to invest in a belt]]

'''Strong Bad Email #18'''

joe p. asks Strong Bad if he has ever done any stand-up comedy.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Coach Z]], [[Little Strong Bad]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Sad's Room]], [[The Stage]]

'''Date:''' March 18, 2002

'''Duration:''' 1:26

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' Something has compelled me to check my email.

<pre>dear strong bad,
ur a real, funy guy. have you ever done any
stand up comidic stuff?

crapfully crappy,
joe p.</pre>
''{He pronouces it as it is spelled: "Err a real fewney guy."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What? No. No. No. I mean, no. Never. No. What? No.

''{He walks away from the computer in a huff. Strong Sad walks in}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Psst. Come with me.

''{Strong Sad takes us to his room. He puts a video tape marked "S.B. Talent Show" in his VCR. The video shows a younger-looking Coach Z with a huge afro and mustache on-stage talking into a microphone.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Once again, thank you to Little Marzipan and her wonderful clogging. Okay, so up next we got the comedy styling of Little Strong Bad.

''{Coach Z steps away from the front stage and Little Strong Bad walks on stage to general applause and lowers the microphone.}''

'''LITTLE STRONG BAD:''' Thank you Coach Z,''{pause}'' for not patting my butt. ''{audience laughs}'' Good evening, ladies and germs. Um... How about this cafeteria food? Is it cardboard or is it pizza? ''{more audience laughs, though less pronounced; Little Strong Bad looks uneasy}'' You know, 'cause it...tastes bad. Um... What about that one...that joke... Coach Z's hair is funny looking. Don't you guys think? 'Cause it's big... He has really big hair...

''{Little Strong Bad's pants fall down with a whistle sound. He looks down, and the audience laughs.}''

'''LITTLE STRONG BAD:''' Oh no!

''{Little Strong Bad tries to run offstage out of embarassment, and falls down because of his pants. The screen goes blank. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*This is the first email in which Strong Bad is seen with a shirt on.

===Remarks===
*[[The VCR]] is made by Totaltronics.
*Little Strong Bad doesn't have the highlights in his eyes that the older Strong Bad does.
*When the [[Tandy 400|Tandy]] blurs out, the green lines on its screen stop moving.

===Inside References===
*The TV is the same as in an old [[Toons]] menu.

*Little Strong Bad is wearing underwear in this email. In New Boots, he says he doesn't wear "underwears."

===Fast Forward===
*The VCR's time is 12:00, which is the subject of [[12:00]].

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features a hidden creator commentary. Just switch your DVD player's language selection while watching the email.

=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MIKE:''' So... here's another email that we made.

'''MATT:''' On our wed— ''{trips over his own tongue}'' wedthighs. It's, uh... I remember thinking how ambitious it was at the time.

'''MIKE:''' It ''is'' ambitious for—

'''MATT:''' Not only do we cut away... Um... Ahhh... Yeah... What?

'''MIKE:''' We've got a rack focus right here. Oooh, blurry monitor.

'''MATT:''' That's the old Strong Bad mouth, though. That's not very good. I remember this, that VCR was pretty complicated—

'''MIKE:''' That's Strong Sad.

'''MATT:''' S—what'd I say?

'''MIKE:''' Strong ''Bad''. Strong Bad's the one with the ''red'' face.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' The tracking is amazing. Mike did that tracking and that little rainbow effect.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, we used that a lot of times.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, 'cause it's so good. Nobody ever-

'''MIKE:''' Hold up!

'''MATT:''' —Why are people not as concerned with Coach Z with the fro and moustache?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, no one cared.

'''MATT:''' I think it's great! And Little Strong Bad, he's wearing a—that's not a tuxedo, Mike, it's one of those tuxedo t-shirts.

'''MIKE:''' Like...the kind that Mark Cohen used to have.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. And if you, uh, look, he's wearing—he's got elastic waistband pants, khaki pants.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughing}'' Grranimals.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughing}'' Grranimals. Yep, that's the stage from our elementary school, from [http://www.dekalb.k12.ga.us/~vanderlyn/ Vanderlyn Elementary School], which we later make even more obvious in a Christmas cartoon.

'''MIKE:''' Yes.

'''MATT:''' Oooh! So this is also the only other time we reveal that Strong Bad actually has, like, legs, like flesh—flesh legs.

'''MIKE:''' Oh yeah.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail18.html|watch "stand-up"]]
*[[HR:sbemail18.swf|view the Flash file for "stand-up"]]

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band names

2005-04-19T12:57:07Z

Lunar Jesters: Oh. Never mind.

[[Image:sbemail16.PNG|thumb|The first appearance of the totally awesome Limozeen]]

'''Strong Bad Email #16'''

Dan asks Strong Bad for advice on a name for his new band.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]]

'''Date:''' March 4, 2002

'''Duration:''' 1:12

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing in the style of [[The Cheat Theme Song]]}'' Who's that giving Strong Bad a hand? Email... Email... ''{stops singing}''

<pre>hey strong bad,
help us come up with a name for our band. i was
thinking about 'invisible robot fish' or 'for good or
for awesome.' hurry up please, we have our first
show tomorrow.
you rule
- dan</pre>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well, Dan, the easiest way is to, you know, just have a really cool last name and use that. You know like Van Halen, or Dokken, or to a lesser extent,... Z'Nuff.

{''Clears screen. Now every time Strong Bad says a band name, an index card featuring the band's logo appears on the screen accompanied by guitar riffs''}

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' The other way is to take a really cool word but then spell it all wrong. You know like... "LAZOR", or "BIGG NIFE", or something like "TARANCHULA" or maybe like "LIMOZEEN". You know, these are all great names, and you know, go ahead and take them. I'm not going to charge you or nothing. Just, uh, put me on the guest list plus one for that show huh? I'll probably take Pom-Pom. ''{stops typing}'' You know, ''{resumes typimig}'' He's been pretty cool lately. ''{stops typing}'' Okay, so tune in next week, when my guests will be Lemmy from Motörhead and the guys from Krokus!

''{[[The Paper]] comes out and it says "Click here to e-mail strong bad", click on the text to email him.}''

== Fun Facts ==
===Inside References===
*Bigg Nife is a reference to the recurring [[Big Knife]] which was first mentioned in [[i love you]].
*"For Good or for Awesome", one of the potential band names Dan puts forth, was taken from [[some kinda robot]].
*The coffee cup ring on the index card is from the recipe card in the quiz when you get all of them right.

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Van Halen|Van Halen]], Enuff Z'Nuff, [[Wikipedia:Motörhead|Motörhead]], [[Wikipedia:Krokus|Krokus]], and [[Wikipedia:Dokken|Dokken]] are real bands.
*The Limozeen logo could be a slight reference to the band AC/DC from their logo with the lightning bolt in the middle and specially drawn letters.
*Dolly Parton released an album called "White Limozeen" in 1989.
*Strong Bad's "take a really cool word, but then spell it all wrong" method of band-name generation is most likely a reference to real-world bands such as [[Wikipedia:Led Zeppelin|Led Zeppelin]] and [[Wikipedia:Def Leppard|Def Leppard]], whose names seem to contain intentional spelling errors.

===Fast Forward===
*[[Limozeen]] and [[Taranchula]] have become actual bands in the H*R universe.
*When Strong Bad says the name of each made up band, you hear music and things in the backround. Bigg Nife was what really ended up sounding like [[Limozeen]], as mentioned in the commentary below.

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features a hidden creator commentary. Just switch the language on your DVD player while watching this email.

=== Commentary Transcript ===
'''MATT:''' That's, of course, The Cheat Party- I mean The Skate Party theme song for The Cheat. ''{pause}'' Uh, this was, I remember thinking this was the heyday of, like, when we were making these.

'''MIKE:''' This was a fun one to make 'cause I remember you were still working and we did it, um, we finished it up at the end, I think, the morning before you went to work ''{inaudable}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah, I was going into work around 11 or 12.

'''MIKE:''' I remember recording the guitar parts at, like, 8 or 9 in the morning.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Uh, and making the, uh, coming up with the note cards and stuff. ''{makes guitar noises}'' That was pretty good. I like that uh, stain. What—what is that? Is that coffee? It looks more like Kool-Aid, though. It's a little red.

'''MIKE:''' More like what?

'''MATT:''' Kool-Aid? Fruit punch?

'''MIKE:''' Well, it's supposed to be coffee.

'''MATT:''' Well, you did a bad job.

'''MIKE:''' Thanks.

'''MATT:''' Poor...representation.

'''MIKE:''' I like—I just hit a harmonic note there.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, and that—it's—funny, though, because, like—

'''MIKE:''' Limozeen sounds nothing like that.

'''MATT:''' —Bigg Nife, yeah, Bigg Nife was what really ended up sounding like the Limozeen we've made today wheras this Limozeen just sounds like...Richie Kotzen...like, Deliverance.

'''MIKE:''' Extreme. Yeah.

'''MATT:''' That's a good song. You guys should check that out. Richie Kotzen.

'''MIKE:''' A lot of people listening to this aren't going to know about Richie Kotzen.

=== Fun Facts ===
*[[Wikipedia:Richie Kotzen|Richie Kotzen]] is a virtuosic guitarist who has been a member of [[Wikipedia:Poison (band)|Poison]] and [[Wikipedia:Mr. Big (band)|Mr. Big]], and has released several solo albums.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail16.html|watch "band names"]]
*[[HR:sbemail16.swf|view the Flash file for "band names"]]

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band names

2005-04-19T12:56:16Z

Lunar Jesters: Pom-Pom isn't God.

[[Image:sbemail16.PNG|thumb|The first appearance of the totally awesome Limozeen]]

'''Strong Bad Email #16'''

Dan asks Strong Bad for advice on a name for his new band.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]]

'''Date:''' March 4, 2002

'''Duration:''' 1:12

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing in the style of [[The Cheat Theme Song]]}'' Who's that giving Strong Bad a hand? Email... Email... ''{stops singing}''

<pre>hey strong bad,
help us come up with a name for our band. i was
thinking about 'invisible robot fish' or 'for good or
for awesome.' hurry up please, we have our first
show tomorrow.
you rule
- dan</pre>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well, Dan, the easiest way is to, you know, just have a really cool last name and use that. You know like Van Halen, or Dokken, or to a lesser extent,... Z'Nuff.

{''Clears screen. Now every time Strong Bad says a band name, an index card featuring the band's logo appears on the screen accompanied by guitar riffs''}

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' The other way is to take a really cool word but then spell it all wrong. You know like... "LAZOR", or "BIGG NIFE", or something like "TARANCHULA" or maybe like "LIMOZEEN". You know, these are all great names, and you know, go ahead and take them. I'm not going to charge you or nothing. Just, uh, put me on the guest list plus one for that show huh? I'll probably take Pom-Pom. ''{stops typing}'' You know, ''{resumes typimig}'' he's been pretty cool lately. ''{stops typing}'' Okay, so tune in next week, when my guests will be Lemmy from Motörhead and the guys from Krokus!

''{[[The Paper]] comes out and it says "Click here to e-mail strong bad", click on the text to email him.}''

== Fun Facts ==
===Inside References===
*Bigg Nife is a reference to the recurring [[Big Knife]] which was first mentioned in [[i love you]].
*"For Good or for Awesome", one of the potential band names Dan puts forth, was taken from [[some kinda robot]].
*The coffee cup ring on the index card is from the recipe card in the quiz when you get all of them right.

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Van Halen|Van Halen]], Enuff Z'Nuff, [[Wikipedia:Motörhead|Motörhead]], [[Wikipedia:Krokus|Krokus]], and [[Wikipedia:Dokken|Dokken]] are real bands.
*The Limozeen logo could be a slight reference to the band AC/DC from their logo with the lightning bolt in the middle and specially drawn letters.
*Dolly Parton released an album called "White Limozeen" in 1989.
*Strong Bad's "take a really cool word, but then spell it all wrong" method of band-name generation is most likely a reference to real-world bands such as [[Wikipedia:Led Zeppelin|Led Zeppelin]] and [[Wikipedia:Def Leppard|Def Leppard]], whose names seem to contain intentional spelling errors.

===Fast Forward===
*[[Limozeen]] and [[Taranchula]] have become actual bands in the H*R universe.
*When Strong Bad says the name of each made up band, you hear music and things in the backround. Bigg Nife was what really ended up sounding like [[Limozeen]], as mentioned in the commentary below.

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features a hidden creator commentary. Just switch the language on your DVD player while watching this email.

=== Commentary Transcript ===
'''MATT:''' That's, of course, The Cheat Party- I mean The Skate Party theme song for The Cheat. ''{pause}'' Uh, this was, I remember thinking this was the heyday of, like, when we were making these.

'''MIKE:''' This was a fun one to make 'cause I remember you were still working and we did it, um, we finished it up at the end, I think, the morning before you went to work ''{inaudable}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah, I was going into work around 11 or 12.

'''MIKE:''' I remember recording the guitar parts at, like, 8 or 9 in the morning.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Uh, and making the, uh, coming up with the note cards and stuff. ''{makes guitar noises}'' That was pretty good. I like that uh, stain. What—what is that? Is that coffee? It looks more like Kool-Aid, though. It's a little red.

'''MIKE:''' More like what?

'''MATT:''' Kool-Aid? Fruit punch?

'''MIKE:''' Well, it's supposed to be coffee.

'''MATT:''' Well, you did a bad job.

'''MIKE:''' Thanks.

'''MATT:''' Poor...representation.

'''MIKE:''' I like—I just hit a harmonic note there.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, and that—it's—funny, though, because, like—

'''MIKE:''' Limozeen sounds nothing like that.

'''MATT:''' —Bigg Nife, yeah, Bigg Nife was what really ended up sounding like the Limozeen we've made today wheras this Limozeen just sounds like...Richie Kotzen...like, Deliverance.

'''MIKE:''' Extreme. Yeah.

'''MATT:''' That's a good song. You guys should check that out. Richie Kotzen.

'''MIKE:''' A lot of people listening to this aren't going to know about Richie Kotzen.

=== Fun Facts ===
*[[Wikipedia:Richie Kotzen|Richie Kotzen]] is a virtuosic guitarist who has been a member of [[Wikipedia:Poison (band)|Poison]] and [[Wikipedia:Mr. Big (band)|Mr. Big]], and has released several solo albums.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail16.html|watch "band names"]]
*[[HR:sbemail16.swf|view the Flash file for "band names"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]]

HRWiki:Old STUFF

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[trevor the vampire]]===
*When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

'''Decline.''' He could be saying something like "freakin' crap". --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 11:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.
*'''Decline''' I have trouble saying why, but I know there's something wrong with this. Be it that it's part of the haiku, or something else, I don't think this really needs to be stated. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''So cool a Decline, I thought I would Second it.''' This is a parody of the [http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_KLEZ.H&VSect=T Klez] email virus that used the infamous subject line "so cool a flash,enjoy it". It's not meant to imply that Strong Bad has actually read the email beforehand. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 08:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*** That's it. Thanks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 08:11, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Oolong's Namesake====
Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for [[Combolations]] in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or [[Wikipedia:Oolong (rabbit)|Oolong the rabbit]], whose owner is Japanese.
*'''Decline.''' I figure the reference is most likely to Oolong, the traditional Chinese tea enjoyed throughout Asia. The characters mentioned here are named after the tea. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 07:49, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.

===[[The Li'l Brudder Show]]===

====Ugly Animation====
The animation resembles the work of [[Wikipedia:Klasky Csupo|Klasky Csupo]] (most famous for [[Wikipedia:Rugrats|Rugrats]]), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

*'''Decline''' Wha...? Obviously not! Li'l Brudder is ''supposed'' to look raggety- he was made to make someone cry! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime''' Li'l Brudder pretty much looks the way Strong Bad drew him originally. He looks odd in the skydiving sequence 'cuz he's prolly falling at near terminal velocity! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:44, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Not So Li'l Decline''' Li'l Brudder's the only one that may look "ugly" due to the addition of visible black hairs all over his body and discolored teeth. Tendafoot looks exactly like the two-legged elephant Strong Bad drew, and the Legless Parrot and Human-Nosed Possum look like animated copies of the real animal, just with the aforementioned maladies. I think TBC made Li'l Brudder "uglier" to draw more pity for everybody's favorite go-getter. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 17:01, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Withdrawn''' I posted this originally, and on closer inspection I agree that Li'l Brudder looks more like Courage the Cowardly Dog than a K C creation. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Late 360 Shove-It To Decline'd!''' I think its unintentional, but kinda true about the "ugly, but cute" part. In spite of that, I also '''Second''' all of the above. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' He looks more like something John Kricfalusi (of the Ren and Stimpy fame) would create. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[impression]]===
====What year is it?====

The form for the penmanship contest says 2004 Sectional Finals, however, the sign for the contest said 2003.

'''VERDICT:''' This goof has been accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:impression]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 16 Apr 2005
*'''ATTENTION GafAddict and Upset Your Balance and any other VERIDCTers''' - The standard voting period is 2 weeks. Please do not close any items that are newer than that that. In other words, check the first vote, if it's less than two weeks old, DON'T TOUCH IT! Also, if you're going to VERDICT an item, please sign your name and date as though you were signing a vote (two hyphens and four tildes)
**'''I think this one is a special case.''' It was STUFFed based on a false assumption. But I didn't VERDICT it, so... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***GafAddict did a few a day or so ago, and I've seen others get VERDICT'd well before the two week period. Also, whoever does it needs to sign it, so I figured I'd post it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*I have added my name and the date to the verdict. (Yes, it was me.) I'm not sure of the exact time of the verdicting though. And as Jay said, because it was STUFFed based on a false assumption, I put it back and verdicted it early. For other STUFF'd items, the VERDICT shall wait two weeks. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[dangeresque 3]]===
====Constantinople?====

The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.
*'''Decline.''' Istanbul is often used in the movies as a dangerous and exotic locale. Any resemblance to a TMBG song, living or dead, is purely coincidental. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's also [[Wikipedia:Istanbul|a real place]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Today's forecast is '''total crap.''' When will you people learn the difference between references and coincidences? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:37, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*"May be"...ugh. '''Decline''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' This fact wasn't just added to the page yesterday; it's been there for ''nine months.'' It's listed in the history as far back as you can go. Thousands of visitors to the page have already seen it and have tacitly given it their approval. The comments above make it sound like there's ''no chance'' that TBC chose Istanbul intentionally, but let me '''put it in context:''' in the few weeks leading up to this email, there were several [[Puppet_Jam:_Vitamins/Celebrities|Puppet Jams]] added to the site. Just a few weeks after the email, [[Experimental Film]] was released (so, being a song, it was likely already in the works at the time of the email). And you're telling me they ''didn't'' have TMBG on the brain? I don't think so. Too coincidental. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:41, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''I think not.''' Being on a page for a long time does not make a fact fun. It is a coincidence, 'nuff said. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' What It's dot com said. Believe me, if you listen to TMGB for too long, it's hard to think of Istanbul without mentally adding "...not Constantinople..." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:37, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Or maybe Istanbul is just a cool-sounding place and TBC weren't making a nod to TMBG. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:33, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:42, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*"I dunno about you The Ugly One, but I say this one should be '''accepted!'''" I really think so though. I agree with everybody who said it should be accepted. I've read over this debate, and do think that that whole thing's a TMBG refrence.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 21:48, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If, someday, a birdhouse shows up in a cartoon, will that be a reference to that birdhouse song? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:49, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's beside the point (although "birdhouse" is not a word that most people use every day). Just about everybody familiar with TMBG knows their song "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and identifies one with the other. I again refer you to the ''context'' of last summer (see my comments above), and considering that, I really don't think this fact is a stretch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Well, I never gave this thing any approval, tacit or otherwise. I've patrolled this page many times and everytime I read this "fact" I wrinkled my nose. I avoided STUFF-ing it because (1) unless I'm in the right mood it's tiresome and tedious and (b) I was afraid to expose my lack of hepitude. Hep or not, I still maintain this fact is based on the purest of speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Discount Flashback Warehouse====
In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad sounds a lot like Senor Cardgage. In fact, the whole easter egg resembles the Senor Cardgage Mortgage toon.
*'''Declinating the countryside, declinating the peasants...''' Of COURSE Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage sound similar - they're alternate versions of the same character. As for similarities between the two, all I see is that they're both commercials. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 11:48, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:40, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster''': After watching it a couple more times, I see that the second part is quite a stretch. As for the first part, I think I need to clarify: Strong Bad ''talks'' like Senor Cardgage, i.e. he uses a monotoneous voice. (Nice decline message tho'...) Therefore, the fun fact '''rephrased:''' In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad's style of speaking is similar to that of Senor Cardgage.
*Excardon me, but what differation does that make, Valerie? '''Decriminoted (decline).'''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*Okay, maybe it's just me, but does anybody else notice that Strong Bad's voice is kinda rasp and expressionless? That's whay I'm basing the whole thing on.
*'''Decline''' Matt Chapman can only do so many different voices, and it makes it especially hard to try and do two alternates to the same character. Strong Bad also does somewhat of a Senor Cardgage voice at the end of [[theme park]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Comment''' One might also add that both seem to have a common source. That is, the cheap television ads that small businesses create. If you somehow don't know what I'm talking about, just watch a local network for a little while, you'll see and hear plenty of dead air, gaudy graphics, poor diction, and bad acting. Actually, I don't know how you can fully appreciate Homestar Runner without having watched even that small amount of tv.
**SIGN YOUR VOTES! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***"Comment" is not a vote. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:27, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* '''D3kl1n3!!''' I didn't bother to read all this to see if somebody had already said this, but The 'Discount' bit came before 'Senor Cardgage' bit. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 02:50, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Here comes the Thnikka-Decline-Man!''' Um, its also a second with kerrek slaya, but sewiously, this did come out before [[Senor Mortgage]]. Check yer facts, folks. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:43, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster:''' Ah cwap, I did forget to check the release dates. My apologies to the hrwiki users. This might have been the wohst hundwed wohds I evoh spent.
**'''Note on the characters:''' Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage are not the same person or even alternate versions of one another. According to Strong Sad, Senor Cardgage was a real person who lived nearby the Strongs' home. Creepy Comb Over Strong Bad is a hypothetical version of Strong Bad who ''resembles'' Senor Cardgage. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:51, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)

===[[replacement]]===
====Strong Mad sings====
Strong Mad says "I'M STRONG MAD," which could be a reference A Jumping Jack Contest, in which Strong Mad poses as Strong Bad and says a similar line.

*'''Delorted''' This is just the kind of stuff Strong Mad says. Plus, "could be's" are 110% STUFF-worthy. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:01, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* Or maybe he's just saying "I'm Strong Mad". Turn off your geekdar, kthx '''Delteated''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Pointless''' Strong mad says this '''A LOT.''' [[user:OWIE!|OWIE!]]
*'''Severe delcine!''' I mean, decline. Severe. Severe decline warning. I mean, [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline!!''' Oh my god! Strong Mad said "I'M STRONG MAD" in the same tone of voice he said "GARBLEDINA" in the Facts! It has to be a reference!
*'''Decline''' Strong Mad's lines rarely vary.
*'''INFINATELY SEVERE DECLINE-erson''' It sound alot more like a refrence to his own name! Why is it wierd for Strong Mad to introduce himself???? IT ISNT! --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:38, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:55, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*-erson, even though I know it's you, SIGN THE VOTE. And that goes for everyone else. In fact, I move that we start deleting unsigned votes. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:33, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Whoops, did I forget to sign? I keep doing that. Ok, its signed now. Sry.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:38, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:35, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Duh. '''Cedline. Wait...''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Dacheated almost beyond all recognition or how I learned to stop worrying and to Decline the bad fun facts-erson.''' This is not a fun fact exactly. Its a "It could be," anyway. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:39, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**You -erson theif!!!!! Oh well, at least its gaining popularity.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:23, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I can't imagine why, as it was only mildly funny the FIRST time... but hackneyed and annoying from then on. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:41, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' In A Jumping Jack Contest, he says "I ''am'' Strong Bad." In this one he just says "''I'm'' Strong Mad. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[spring cleaning]]===
====DELETED!====
The "DELETED" screen has a green background on the Tandy. When later used on the Compy, it has a blue background. It has not been used on the Lappy thusfar.

'''VERDICT:''' This information has been '''moved''' to the [[DELETED]] page. The votes have been moved to [[Talk:spring cleaning]]

===[[rampage]]===

====Poetic chops====
Ironically, while Strong Sad glorifies iambic pentameter, his creation is a pretty bad example of it. He twists the stresses on "lyric rampage," properly pronounced LY-ric RAM-page (a pair of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trochee trochees]), into ly-RIC ram-PAGE (a pair of iambs).

*'''Decline.''' I agree with what you're saying. Also, it's not much of a rampage to be reciting at a rate of 2 syllables per second. However, I don't think anyone learns anything from this fun fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait a '''Second!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny that Strong Sad has to artificially make trochees into iambs, but maybe I'm just a nerd. Anyway, I'm sure not everyone will know this, so accept! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:38, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Sign yer vote!
**'''Weak Second to a Strong Accept.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third the Nerd''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''seconding the third''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''seconding the seconding of the third of the...whatever. I agree.''' [[user:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
****'''20x6ing the 1936''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''''
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:56, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
**'''Comment''' There is already a similar fun fact on the page.
*Great jorb!
** Uh... is that a vote? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Strong Sad, Charles Barkley, and Ruben Studdard...long lost triplets?====
Strong Bad's insult of "round mound of gray fatness" towards Strong Sad could be derived in part from the nickname of former NBA player [[Wikipedia:Charles Barkley|Charles Barkley]], the "Round Mound of Rebound." Also, Ruben Studdard, who won [[Wikipedia:American Idol|American Idol]] in 2003 and bears more than a slight resemblance to Strong Sad in shape, is sometimes known as the "Round Mound of Sound."

*'''Decline.''' Before Jay gets to it: This, that, and the other... If it's been used more than once elsewhere, it's not a specific reference, and therefore, unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:09, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** Well, this is two unrelated things, and (if it's true) exactly one of them is it, but we don't know which. Not EXACTLY the same thing as my usual "this that and the other thing" complaint -- ''but'' -- it's too much of a stretch in either case without some extra info, so I do have to agree with '''Decline'''-ing it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Barkley and Ruben don't even look alike, much less Strong Sad. 20:52, --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Comment.''' A little Googling shows that [http://www.luma-electronic.cz/lp/p/Kenny/price_k_walking.htm Kenny Price] was the first Round Mound of Sound, way back in 1969. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Is the SB's insult of the "Round Mound of [something that rhymes with round and mound]" type? Of course it is. Is it notable? Given that the reference has been around for at least 36 years, probably not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:58, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Sad is round, a mound, gray, and fat. The only thing Strong Bad's insult is a reference to is Strong Sad's appearance. Can you streeeeeeeeetch? -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:46, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Round Mound of Decline''' Does "Gray Fatness" rhyme with "Round" and "Mound?" [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Rewrite''' it into something a bit more streamlined. Something like: "'Round Mound of Fatness' is a reference to other characters such as Kenny Price, the 'Round Mound of Sound', and Charles Barkely, the 'Round Mound of Rebound'". I like this Fun Fact, though.

====Dumpy Dump sat on a wall====
Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "DJ Dumpy Dump" could be a combination reference to the rappers DJ Jazzy Jeff and Humpty Hump (who Coach Z once dressed up as for Halloween). It may also be a reference to rapper Doug E. Doug.

* '''Decline''' all but Humpty Hump - it's the only one close enough. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:02, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise''' As said above, just stick with Humpty Hump. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 20:16, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' Now then, if he was being called "DJ Dazzy Dump", I'd agree that it might also be a reference to jazzy jeff. But that's not what's going on here. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Humpty Hump is a fairly clear reference, I think.
*'''Accept''' I don't get it. It seems to me it pretty clearly a reference to DJ Jazzy Jeff. I am sure the Brothers are familiar with both. Doesn't it seem likely that they were refering to both?[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Uh... no?''' It matches Humpty Hump with about three letters' difference. It matches Jazzy Jeff with about ONE letter's similarity. Why does it have to be both? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Silly''' They both sound a lot like it, but DJ Jazzy Jeff has the 'DJ' and the exact same rhythm. It is silly to just go by the letters.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*** If it's VERY close to one and SORTA KINDA VAGUELY IN A WAY close to the other, why even entertain the sorta kinda vague one? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** DJ Jazzy Jeff is not the only rapper with 'DJ' in his name. That's not a specific reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:32, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** While this is true. I am hard pressed to think of one that sounds so much like DJ Dumpy Dump. Clearly I am losing this vote. (Although four to one is a pretty small sample. I have checked with friends here and they agree with me for what it is worth.) I really honestly believe it is a reference to both. I would be extremely surprised to find that The Brothers were not aware of how much it sounds like both of them. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Decline all.''' It's not a specific reference to any of those - it's a reference to Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "dumpus". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well, that TOO... but it's pretty close to Humpty Hump, so I wouldn't discount the reference possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***I know it was obvious - I'm just skeptical of any of these. It could also be a reference to Marky Mark, or Easy E (sic), or Flavor Flav, or... you catch my drift? Having the _____-y _____ thing for a name isn't THAT uncommon - and in this sense, if you've got people coming up with three or more '''possible''' references, well then perhaps it's not actually a specific reference, and as such, it probably shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DJ Decline''' There are more than one artist whose stage names begin with "DJ." There's no similarity between "Dumpy Dump" and "Jazzy Jeff." Go away. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' If you can't prove it, don't post it. I will say that the Dumpty Hump reference is the most likely one, especially if TBC have referred to the guy before. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''And a comment''' I'm seeing more and more people getting blunt or just plain rude with how they reject fun facts. I can appreciate this (alot of the supposed "facts" annoy me) but maybe its time the rules were revised a bit. Maybe limit the types of facts accepted or post clearer rules at the top of the page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' at least Humpty Hump. I also support keeping DJ Jazzy Jeff. Get rid of Doug E. Doug. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:59, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite.''' Ditch DJ Jazzy Jeff and Doug E. Doug.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' First thing I thought of was Jazzy Jeff... Then again, I'm rap-ly challenged. Humpty Hump for sure. [[User:SP|SP]]

====Wite Wrapper====
The fact that Strong Sad's "whiteness" is acknowledged on his CD refers to famous white rappers such as [[Wikipedia:Eminem|Eminem]] and [[Wikipedia:Vanilla Ice|Vanilla Ice]].

* '''Del taco... wait...''' Hey, boys and girls, let's see how far we can streeeeeeeeetch Fun Facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:40, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' Yeah this one is really stretching.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
** '''Second to last place.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 02:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Ding!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* ... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:07, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I agree that it is a reference to white rappers. The problem with this fun fact is 1)the joke is obvious and 2)Eminem is considered to be a GOOD rapper (even though I can't stand him) while Strong Sad is meant to flop. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:42, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''I think this one is worth our time, maybe we should accept it--DECLINED!''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline''' Hold on The Cheat! We're gonna stretch this fun fact to the MOOOOOOOOOOOOOON! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:22, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline. White is the color of his face. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' based on the fact that it's common household knowledge (well, some households) as far as white wrapperas and jokes about them go.--[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Decline''' plus '''side note:''' There already is a fun fact about this on the page. Furthermore, Coach Z is some sort of Canadian/Minnisotan/New Englander/Bostonian white boy himself, and he can rap better than anyone else on the site. In addition, The Brothers Chaps seem to be pretty good at rapping (at least when they write and perform for Coach Z). --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)

====English Lesson====
(under the ''quiver(ed)'' definition) In early Modern English, it would have been written "Quiver'd" (not to be confused with 404'D, Cerebellum'D, etc, etc.).
* '''Decline'd''' Don't worry, I wasn't confused in the slightest. Except, perhaps, as to why you made this 'fun' fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:46, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:07, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline.''' Number A, this is not interesting or relevant. Number B, how do you know Strong Bad didn't say it like Quiver'd? Quivered and quiver'd would be pronounced the same way. This shouldn't have even been STUFF'd. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:52, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**A,B,etc... are not numbers.
***You aren't a regular, are you? -Walking Armless
**Heh... good point on B, mibluvr13. I don't know why that didn't cross my mind when I STUFF'd this. Guess I was just thinking blindly about what was in the transcript without thinking about the actual toon. '''Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:01, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====I'm on a Rainbow====
Strong Bad capitalizing "Reading Rampage" in the e-mail could be an allusion to [[Wikipedia:Reading Rainbow|Reading Rainbow]], the popular 90's children reading show.
*<strike>'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:49, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)</strike>
*'''Accept/Rewrite''' I don't like the phrase "could be" in that statement. But you might be on to something there --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline''' 100% pure Florida natural SPECULATION! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline.''' How is capitializing a phrase a reference to anything? And it's still a stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**I submitted this fun fact because Strong Bad didn't capitalize any other rampages he mentioned, and looking at the phrase capitalized, it kind of looks and sounds like Reading Rainbow, at least alliteratively. It was the first (and so far only) thing that popped into my head as to why it was capitalized. Just wanted to state my case, whether or not it matters. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 17:26, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Heck no at all.''' This is a stretch and three quarters. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' That's pretty clever, actually! I like it. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Being clever is far from a prerequisite for a fun fact. Anyway, '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:13, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''SEVERE Decline!!!''' Anyone who thinks that is a reference needs to have their brain checked, no offense. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Are you kidding me? There's serious doubt. But not about whether this fact should be '''DECLINE'D!!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' If there's no certainty of the connection, it shouldn't be listed. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''VOTE CHANGE! SECOND!''' That's true, Beatfox. I think the only reason I voted yes before was because it sounded hillarious as a spoof...I mean, Reading Rainbow...Reading Rampage? Hahahahaha! Someone ought to make a flash 'toon about that![[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:45, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.'''If you do a google search for the phrase "reading rampage", you will see that there are a great many libraries in the U S of A that sponsor reading rampages! Still, I like the way you think. It's a stretch, but clearly you have a good sense of humor :)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:18, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*My Land! [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=reading+rampage Google] ''does'' show lots & '''lots''' of Reading Rampages going ORRRRF in the USA! This is more that just a stretch. The fact as written is just plain wrong. This is a real-world reference. I'm upgrading my vote to an '''Infinite Decline with a Major Rewrite.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:36, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' The rules of the STUFF'd page prohibit this type of unverified trivia. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Weak Decline''' I think that although this could be a connection, I think that it's stretching it a little. Strong Bad ''vaguely'' says it like Reading Rainbow in the e-mail, but not so much that it stands out to you. I could see why you'd say this, but I still think that you're probably incorrect. -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 4:08 PM, 15 Apr 2005
*'''New Trell''' You do happen to provide sufficient reasoning for the Reading Rainbow reference, but the past comments on Reading Rampages are also... well... I DON'T KNOW. I'M NEUTRAL, I DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING! ...Yeah [[User:SP'd|SP'd is crazy]]

====Marzipan's Speech Impediment====
Marzipan seems to stutter uncharacteristically during the phrase "would be proud."
*'''Accept.''' I thought this was a rather unusual observation on a character who's normally very proficient with her speech. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:05, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' For once, I think this is legitimate. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 13:19, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It sure doesn't sound like "Geoff Chaucerbury" to me! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice this. Very nice. Clap, clap. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:53, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Because, uh, why does it need to be in Fun Facts? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:23, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' It's noted in the transcript (would be is written twice). --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 01:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' True, but it's not immediately obvious to the casual reader. It could easily be overlooked or mistaken for a typo. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:39, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Countercomment''' Dan vs. Jerome was similar in its construct - it was in the transcript but non-obvious. It was declined too. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 07:16, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:52, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a side of DECLINE!''' Sounded more like a simple flash goof to me. Nothing worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment''' Whatever it is, it's not a glitch. I checked it out in a sound editor. Not only are the two "would be's" unique, they make up one continuous phrase. There's no discontinuity in the waveform, and the tone of voice transitions seamlessly. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:14, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' -- I believe it's worth noting on a few counts. First, it's unusual for TBC to make this kind of goof. Second, it verifies what people believe they've heard. Third, it prevents people from trying to read into the dialog what's just not there (e.g. Geoff Chaucerbury). There! I doubt I swayed any of the Decliners, but I've had my say! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept '''but''' Move.''' Given that close analysis of the sound track has revealed that this is an actual occurance and not a glitch, it should be taken as valid, but perhaps would be best left as part of the transcript. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:15, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' Apparently, some less-informed person decided to correct this "typo" in the transcript. I have restored it and added an HTML comment to ward off such attempts in the future... whatever happened to the comment that was there before? In any case, we should at least have ''something'' on the page to point out this oddity. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:35, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Because''' someone changed it to "Chaucerbury", we talked about it, agreed it was wrong, and the person who changed it back didn't put back the comment. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Pie, Anyone?====
"The pie's the limit" may be refering to Strong Bad's wednesday pie motivational talks in [[other days]].
*'''Decline.''' Just because it contains "pie" doesn't necessarily mean it's a reference. And I don't like the "may be". [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:54, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I want to accept this, I really do, but there's just not enough there there. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:58, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''I can't think of a Decline pun right now''' Well, in my opinion, it's just a play on "The Sky's The Limit." Pie is actually a pretty widely used running gag on H*R, including the pie motivational talks mentioned earlier, piemonade, etc. So if anything, this should be in some other section. [[User:SP|SP]]
*'''Decline''' Hot soup is on my eye![[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' "The pie's the limit" is a reference to the old saying "The sky's the limit." Strong Bad was just being silly by saying pie instead of sky. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*I don't know why, but when I see "may be" in a fun fact, I can see a kitten dying. '''Declinester''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' That and it violates the guidelines of good fun facts (see top of page). --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:16, 17 Apr 2005

===Chicken Soup for the Soul===
One of the books seen during Strong Bad's "reading rampage" is titled Soup, Right?, a reference to the "[[Wikipedia:Chicken Soup for the Soul|Chicken Soup for the Soul]]" book series.
*'''Accept'''I like Chicken Soup! You dang right it's a reference![[User: Umbertowasted|Umbertowasted]]
*'''Decline.''' Stretchy stretchy Stretch Armstrong! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:32, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:00, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I am sure this is an intentional reference.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I can see this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' They stretch you, and stretch you, and STREEEEEEEETCH you! --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' No more a stretch than the ''For Jerks'' book referencing the ''For Dummies'' ones. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Except that "Soup, Right?" doesn't sound at all like Chicken Soup for the Soul, whereas "(Topic) for Jerks" is just like "(Topic) for Dummies".
*'''Decline.''' Soup, Right? could be short for "Soup Done Right" or something like that. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 13:20, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No way, Lucy.''' Sharing one word doesn't make it a reference. Seriously, people, you're not even trying anymore. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' You're stretching! Like RB said: It's only sharing ONE word!! Come on, people!! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:29, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Not trying? Seems more like they're trying too hard. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Delete.''' There's not way that that is a reference. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:37, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I based my vote based on the fact that the books Strong Bad is reading are meant to sound like advice books. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DELORTED!''' That almost definitely doesn't have anything to do with anything. That's like saying "Sweatshirtguy" is a reference to Rocky.
*'''Insert witty DECLINE comment here''' MAJOR STRETCH! Just cause they share the same word doesn't mean they're related. Wow. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
**'''Second.''' Totally unsupported theory. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:18, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Accept''' Definately a reference
**'''Sign teh vote!''' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 00:02, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**"Definately" not. '''DECLINED''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:56, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Inclined to Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accept.''' While we're at it, "Biscuit" is a reference to "Seabiscuit."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Are you sure you didn't want to type decline? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:37, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===Its a Bird, Its a Plane, its Pie???===

"The pie's the limit" is a reference to the quote, "The sky is the limit," which is found on Thorax Corporation's website.

*'''Decline-erson''' Not only is this fact too obvious, but "The sky is the limit" is a cliché, and is not exclusive to Throax.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Well look who thinks he's Clever Dan. Wait, you're wrong, it's a reference to the Notorious B.I.G., he made a song called "Sky's the Limit" so he must've copyrighted the phrase!!!!111one Ugh... '''Decline x999''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Piecline.''' Sorry, that's the best I can do with this one. Why wasn't this just deleted? --- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Because I wanted to make sure it wasnt just my oppinion that this stunk.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:48, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Norse mythology====
The line about making people from spit may be a reference to a Norse myth, in which the Aesir (war gods) and Vanir (fertility gods), to seal a peace treaty between them, made a man (named Braugi) from their collective spit. He knew all their combined secrets, but was eventually killed by giants.
*'''Decline.''' It's more likely a reference to the fact that spit contains DNA, and it may one day be possible to clone someone from their DNA. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Third''' Coincidental. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* While I'm suprised about how much you know about Norse Mythology...'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Uh... no. While that's a very well thought-out reach, it's still a reach - the reference is to cloning from DNA. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:12, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' It's probably a reference to DNA and cloning. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:24, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* You obviously put a lot of work into this one, but unfortunately, I must '''Decrine.''' As said by other folks above, it's a reference to cloning from DNA. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:49, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept.''' This is a FUN FACT! Mind you, I highly doubt this is what TBC were trying to reference, but my life has been enriched by reading this. I would suggest rewriting it, however, to say "There is a story in Nordic mythology in which the Aesir (war gods)...." This way, there's no suggestion that TBC was trying to reference this fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No way does this work. The whole joke is based on the popular misconseption of what cloning is. Clones are genetic twins, not exact duplicates with the same minds, thoughts, and memories of the original. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:21, 17 Apr 2005

===[[pizzaz]]===
====Third Interview====
This is the third time Strong Bad has interviewed somebody. He "interviewed" [[Homsar]] (actually himself speaking for Homsar) in the email "[[interview]]" and he interviewed [[Homestar]] in the toon [[The Interview]].
*'''Accept.''' Nice one. [[User:hamrodrunner|hamrodrunner]]
*'''Decline.''' This should never have been STUFF-ed. It should have been deleted outright. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:48, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' To paraphrase a below quote, fun facts aren't made to count how many times things happen. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline to the moon''' Firsts are noteworthy... thirds aren't so much. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move/revise''' How about moving it to the Fast Forward of the "interview" e-mail and saying something like "Strong Bad also conducts interviews in [[The Interview]] and [[pizzaz]]." [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 17:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**How about not? Noting how many times Strong Bad conducts interviews isn't fun - anybody watching those e-mails can tell for themselves whether or not he's conducting interviews. And the fact that the two toons being referenced actually have the word "interview" in the title makes this one even more obvious and unnecessary. '''Declined''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:24, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Nobody cares. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Severe Decline!''' First times are somewhat interesting, second times are not, and third times are hazardous to your health.
*'''Declination Nation.''' No offense, man. I mean, you should get credit for trying, but it's just, well, boring. No one cares.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
====CREEPING floating DEATH flashlight====
When everyone is telling ghost stories, no one actually holds the flashlight with his or her hands. It just sort of floats in front of everyone. With Homestar, Marzipan, and the King of Town, this makes sense, since none of them have visible hands, but we should see everybody else's hands.

*'''Decline''' I suppose that they couldn't be seen holding the flashlight, but their arms could be behind the black circle, so...nope. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:59, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Declinez0rs''' Didn't we already see this? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:09, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Second''' I believe so, but apparently the person who posted this goof moved it back when he found it STUFF'd, so it was STUFF'd again. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline.''' This is just a continuation of one of the site's longest running gags: none of the characters have a normal physiology. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:27, 17 Apr 2005

===[[Fhqwhgads]]===
====Not Expecting====
Fhqwhgads actually just sent the Email as a joke. It was not intended to be used. However, Fhqwhgads, whose personal information will not be revealed because of a request not to, did say this in an AIM conversation: "I didn't spoof a virus. I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." If you don't believe this, you can contact him-his AIM screename is IamFHQWHGADS142. (He has pride that he is Fhqwhgads) -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]]

'''VERDICT:''' This item was closed on request by the author. See below for a new version of this fun fact. Voting moved to [[Talk:Fhqwhgads]]--[[User:-erson|<nowiki>Posted by </nowiki>-erson]] 01:27, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====The joke theory====
- (An outcome of "Not Expecting")
- It's been theorized that this [that the email was a spoof of the "i love you" virus] is not true. A person claiming to be Fhqwhgads said he actually just sent the Email as a joke, and that it was not intended to be used. "I didn't spoof a virus," he said, "I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." However, due to a concern about personal provacy, he would not give any information. -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:36, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Still Decline''' Next thing you know the Wiki will be flooded with kids claiming to have their own story about why they e-mailed Strong Bad. Too much speculation, no real way to prove any of it. Its bad enough that we have people thinking they can get their fun facts in by putting "It may be" or "Its possible that" in with them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:33, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' I can see how we wouldn't want to let this get out of hand, but we're fighting a problem we don't even have. If people were going to randomly and falsely claim to be email authors, I think they'd already be doing it. Plus, we're not talking about accepting ''all'' such claims; we're only concerned here with ''this'' case (and if the Supreme Court of the United States can make a ruling while at the same time declaring that it ''doesn't'' set precedent, so can we). Lastly, I think TK genuinely believes to be in contact with ''the'' fhqwhgads, and that should carry some weight. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:54, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Thank you. And I assure everyone here: neither I nor any of my comrades (including Fwh) is anywhere near crazy. ^_^ In fact, I really hate nonevident and irrational claims, and I most certainly would not want the wiki to be flooded with them! But I seriously know THE Fhqwhgads -TK
*Well I genuinly think that I'm in contact with people who can't get my point. It could be true yes but he can't prove it so it shouldn't go up in any way shape or form. No different than any other fun fact that needs proof to be accepted. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline-erson''' Is it not possible that this potential AIM'er could be a fake, just claiming to be Fwh but not him truely? And, if it was the true Fwh, than wouldnt it make sence that his AIM name (IamFHQWHGADS142) wouldnt have numbers at the end, as the real Fwh would probably be the first person to make such a name and wouldnt require the numbers at the end of it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 12:45, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's NOT the Fun Fact in question. You're thinking of "Not expecting." This is different! Plus lemee just clarify this: in order to fully understand the esscense of THIS fact, you gotta forget it even HAD a predescessor (and all the information included in that one.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Well than, how did you get that information and those quotes? By talking to a person on AIM. How do you know that person was the real Fwh? You dont! Still '''Decline'''. --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:27, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' The person COULD have just wanted numbers in his screename. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 20:21, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Exactly! You tryin to say I should just be TakuaKaita? A little insulting. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]]
**'''Comment.''' The real Fwh would not have made an AIM name before writing the e-mail because it was random banging on the keyboard. Only once the e-mail had become famous would s/he have made that name. By that time, someone else likely took the AIM name first, forcing the real Fwh to add numbers.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Both versions hinge upon a quote from the purported foogoograss. The quote is impossible to verify. As a result, both fact and theory should be rejected. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:41, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[date]]===
====Ren & Stimpy XR====
The logo for the Extra Real Dating Sim XR is based on the logo for the Nickelodeon cartoon "Ren & Stimpy".

*'''Decline.''' Close, but no cigar. It doesn't even use the Ren & Stimpy font. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:24, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Weak Second.''' Hmmm... but I don't really see how this would be a fun fact... [[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:28, 8 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''decline.exe''' Seriously, if this was any more of a stretch, it could reach Mars. ... Yeah, that was bad. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:44, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DOUBLE DECLINE!!!''' Along with "seconding" with the above, I was a die-hard Ren & Stimpy fan when they still showed it, and I don't remember anything vaguely remotely relating to the sim. Even if there was, it's more of a stretch than Silly Putty . [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
**'''Second!''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:21, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[the show]] ===
====Homestar's "Arms"====
Unless Homestar is holding the microphone under his armpit when he is reciting his list, this is another one of those times when it's questionable as to how many invisible arms he has: he holds the microphone in one hand, his cards in the other, and flips them over each other all at the same time.
*'''Comment.''' I stuffed this because it's very much in question whether Homestar has invisible "arms" or some other way to "hold" objects. Opinions? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 14:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Decline.''' Because it wasn't clear in my previous comment. Anyway, I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. He doesn't have any arm holes in his shirt and the other characters call him armless. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 12:56, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' You could add this fact to any toon or email which features Homestar manipulating an object. Hopefully, we won't. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Accept.''' In how many other toons does homestar appear to be handling more objects than could be reasonably handled using two arms? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:52, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**[[time capsule]] is another example. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:55, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Hmm....even so, it's one of those things that's not very obvious. If it happened all the time, that'd be one thing, but if it doesn't happen that often, I think it's worth noting.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:02, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline!''' "Another one of those times"? For shame! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:54, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Dear Strong Bad, how do you type with boxing gloves on? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' This is one of the best Fun Facts I've seen (I'm talking about the original Fun Fact, not that boxing gloves mention). Half glitch, half major insight into the Homestar universe. Definitely a keeper.
**Sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**'''Second.''' -- One of the better ones for sure! [[User:smoothmedia|smoothmedia]]
*'''F--''' Does everything in the Homstarrunner.com world make perfect sense? Heck no at all. I think the fact that his arms are invisible in the first place is pretty weird. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:57, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Dcline''' I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. It just... floats. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:14, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I'm thinkin' Homestar's like VeggieTales. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 21:23, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Aren't fun facts supposed to be fun? This is... just silly. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:37, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise, move''' This seems like it is worth pointing out about Homestar, but if this really a common occurence(I never really thought of it before, does Marzipan ever do this?) that it should be mentioned on his character page. The reason I think this falls under fun facts is that it's unexpected and hard to notice as a result. It's easy to assume when you see Homestar holding something without hands that he essentially has invisible arms. Occurences like this supplant that notion. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Based on what people are saying, it sounds like it's not a common occurence. Only in two episodes (to my knowledge) has this been an issue: this one and [[time capsule]]. It wasn't obvious to me on watching either episode, and I'm glad someone is pointing this out!--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:44, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Buleeted''' May I remind you? Is marsipan a broom? Yo strongbad, How do you type with boxing gloves on? Where is Pom pom's mouth? You are one of these people now. Muhahahaha. [[user:OWIE!|OWIE!]]
**'''Second.''' Too technical. But people, please stop picking on him. You're being a little harsh. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 16:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' We SHOULD mention on Marzipan's character page that she looks like a broom, and on Strong Bad's page that he types with boxing gloves on, and on Homestar's page that he has no arms, etc. Just because these are issues/questions that TBC refuses to explain (yet), doesn't make issues like Homestar's strange arm-mechanics unworthy of mention. The proposed fun fact is centrally relevant to one of the main mysteries on the site. It also sheds new light on the issue by refuting a common interpretation (that Homestar has two invisible arms). It's less similar to "Strong Bad typing with boxing gloves on" as it is to "Strong bad typing with boxing gloves on and without touching the keyboard". It adds a new layer to an age-old Homestar Runner question. - Dingell
*Homestar has no arms, invisible or other wise. He simply manipulates objects. Nobody knows how, because thats the joke. Trying to apply logic to it only ruins the fun.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Accept'''- it seems that this is reasonable. [[User:computerdude33|computerdude33]]
**'''Accept''' When I see Homestar, I presume that if he has ANY "Invisible Arms", He would have two. --[[User:Bonk|Bonk]] 20:21, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Donny, I couldn't have said it any better. High-ball! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:52, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[suntan]] ===
====Marzipan's Parasol====
Marzipan is carrying a toothpick parasol one would normally receive with a tropical drink, only hers seems to be much larger than normal. Except that tropical drink parasols are modelled after real parasols . . . which are, you know, real . . .

''After a week of unanimous declines, this Fun Fact has been closed. The votes for this fun fact can be seen at the [[Talk:suntan|talk page]] of suntan.

=== [[local news]] ===
====Scalawag====
"Scalawag" may possibly be a reference to a Calvin and Hobbes strip in which Calvin and Hobbes sing the "Very Sorry Song" :
:(Calvin) "I'm sorry, so sorry I took your precious flaaaaag"
:(Hobbes) "Just don't do it again you scurvy scalawaaaaaag"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:local news]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[brianrietta]] ===
==== "Tough Guys"? ====
This is the only reference to homosexuality in the entire site, '''and thankfully Strong Bad handled it more maturely than most "tough guys" would have.'''
*'''Revise''': This is an interesting fact, but I think that the part in bold is a bit unecessary. After all, this is a knowledge base, not a place for rants. If you wanted to put something like this, I suggest doing it in the forum. Besides, this is easily infered from reading the transcript. I think that the part in bold needs to be deleted, and the rest added back into the Fun Facts. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Comment.''' I assume this is an '''Accept'''. Please sign your vote! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' This is hardly a rant. I don't think the statement loses anything by removing the "offending" clause, however. I ''would'' change "this is the only reference" to "this is one of the few references". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
**'''Comment.''' But this ''is'' the only reference to homosexuality on the site. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 12:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' It's ''currently'' the only reference on the site. For all we know, the entire cast will be outed tomorrow and it will become the ''first'' reference among many. The guidelines for this section says that facts that become easily dated are bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
**'''Comment.''' In fact, I just convinced myself that it should say "This is the first reference" -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment:'''I'm just saying that it seems like a rant to me, and it's rather unecessary (The part in bold, that is). --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Comment.''' A rant against who? Tough Guys? The comment says that SB handles the situation "maturely". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*<strike>'''Accept.''' I think it's fine the way it is.</strike> '''Decline.''' Changed my mind, the point that it's the only reference to homosexuality on H*R is debatable and may possibly change, so the fact doesn't have much of a point to it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The ONLY reference? What about in the new [[HomestarTalker|Homestar Talker]]? "Pom-Pom and Strong Bad Are Totally Going Out!" We know Strong Bad is a guy, and Pom-Pom is called '''"he"''' many times throughout the site. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Response''' Maybe "going out" just means they're going someplace together, like to a movie or something. It's possible for guys to do stuff together without it being "gay." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Wow... so many comments, but very few people willing to actually vote. This item is trying to point out something that is intended as a joke, and as such, it shouldn't need to be explained or have undue attention drawn to it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:06, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:08, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Comment''' Heh-heh. Sorry about that remark. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Accept with Revisions''' This is a time in history where many homosexuals are being recongnised. Though this, admittedly, isn't the ONLY reference, we should still note it was handled maturely. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline''' If he had handled it any other way than maturely, TBC would have been called homophobes. Doesn't matter though, I can't think of a reason why it would be important to point out a gay reference just as I can't see why it would be important to point out all the swears that have been used. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise.''' A notable fact. While not in any way offensive, the second half of the sentence is unnecessary. Revise to say "This is the first reference to homosexuality in the H*R universe." Let Strong Bad's maturity speak for itself. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Twond''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second'''. And am I the only one to think "''[[Wikipedia:Bad Dudes|Bad Dudes]]''" when hearing this? "The Cheat has been kidnapped by fhqwhgads. Are you a tough enough guy to save The Cheat?" --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:29, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Not really. But the part about it being the only reference to homosexuality might be OK.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise and Accept-erson''' As a queer myself, I feel that the last section is totally acceptable. As a tough guy, Strong Bad would have been expected to respond with aggression, rudness, etc... as other "tough guys" I know have. However, he acted out of what was expected of him, and I think that makes it interesting and acceptable. Just change "only" to "first" and you're good to go.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 12:55, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Second.''' P.S. I'm so proud of SB for handling it maturely!!! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Decline.''' If, for some reason, an handicapped character was introduced in a cartoon(perhaps a character without arms?), would it be a fun fact to say, "this is the first time a handicapped character has appeared"? As Bob Marley says, "until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes..."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Severe Decline''' (a) It's not the only reference to homosexuality on the site, as noted above. (b) Saying that Strong Bad handled it "maturely" is an opinion... people in general do sometimes tend to be offended when their names are contorted into names of the opposite gender. (c) Fun Facts should be objective; it's not a place to judge the characters' morality, so the word "thankfully" has no place here... though I do agree with your moral evaluation in this case. - Dingell

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Hom Sar Ref====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:00, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Trial Game origin====

The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====False Advertising====

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- tomstiff 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Special Appearance====
Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.

''After a week of unanimous declines, this fun fact has been rejected. You can see the votes at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].

====Whats Her Face's lack of appearance====

For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:54, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio====

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:22, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Tall homestar?====
In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!

*'''Infinite Decline.''' Unimportant. And besides, how do YOU know that 3/4 of Homestar's body is there? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' It didn't look that way to me; in any case, made-up measurements are bleh. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 14:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Homestar's two feet fell into the trap. Therefore, it's a "two-foot trap."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:44, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Two-foot second''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Accept.''' It's rare to get even a rough indication of the characters' sizes. I wonder if this is consistent with the dimensions of Strong Sad in 'The Facts' - Dingell
*'''Del Taco''' Wasn't he stopped by Strong Mad's head? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:45, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Oh, yeah. Forgot about that, didn't you, whoever posted this fun fact? Hey, Dingell, might wanna change your vote there. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:42, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad didn't take a measurement of the pit, he never had any prior knowledge of how deep it was: he expected it to be a bottomless pit, and in his exasperation at The Cheat's failure to install such, he just randomly picked two feet as a way to say it was far too shallow. By your logic, if he said one foot, Homestar would only be a foot into the pit, and if he said three feet, then Homestar would have three feet of his legs in it, and Strong Bad could have verily used either to express his lack of satisfaction. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:29, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
***'''Third!'''-[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:15, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*SB was exsagerateing

====Updated for the 90's====
Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.

*'''Decline''' - This was just a joke. Seriously. I think TBC know when they started TGS. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who forgot to login]] 5:30 PM, 5 Apr 2005 (EST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment''' But hey, did you know there were only 127 Strong Bad E-mails up when this toon was made? I think TBC know how many SBemails they've made. -- [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' Um...tell me what that has to do with me, please? -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who remembered to login today.]] 5:00 PM, 6 Apr 2005 (EST)
*I'm saying theres another fact above thats just like this one and is being accepted but is equally worthless. Wasn't meant to be personal, sorry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' Oh, well, sorry for over-reacting, then. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar]] 8:12 PM, 7 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline,''' and the fun fact in reference is worth something, unlike this, which is crap. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:49, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:24, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' But "crap" is a little harsh. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:40, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Duh.''' Did you even understand this e-mail? [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]

===[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]===
====Sweating====
Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:51, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====X-Pensive Winos====
The text "X-PENSIVE W..." appearing on Strong Bad's 'light pen' before he shakes it up may be a reference to Rolling Stones guitarist [[Wikipedia:Keith Richards|Keith Richards']] solo band the X-Pensive Winos.

*'''Decline.''' Stretchy "might be" reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Decline.''' The W is for "white". Could be a refence, but could just as easily not be. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' But we all know that the W stands for "witches' brew." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:41, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' Interesting, but it's a bit of a stretch. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 14:51, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:09, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''X-Pensive Decline.''' Since it is white-out, W for White makes the most sense. And substituting letter sounds for words or word parts is a common practice in product branding... X-tra this, E-Z that, etc. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:38, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Rodeo Hot Dogs====
"Rodeo Hot dogs" is a reference to the old Oscar Meyer mascot.

*'''Decline.''' It's not "Rodeo Hot Dogs", it's "Rodeo and Tragic Clown Hot Dogs" - meaning the word "rodeo" modifies "clown" not "hot dogs" (in other words, It's a reference to rodeo clowns). Even so, this is a huge stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' There is no stretch as there is no basis in fact for this...fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Just read the [http://www.kraftfoods.com/om/bn/c_News/news_History1.htm Oscar Meyer company history] looking for a shred of eveidence. I could have missed it, but the article didn't mention a mascot, just the weinermobile. Let's have some evidence before asserting something as a fact! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*'''decline''' I think you mean the twinkie mascot -smooth criminal
*'''Decline on two fronts.'''' I doubt the Oscar MAYER mascot is a reference, and I doubt Twinkie The Kid is either (he's just a yellow sponge cake cowboy). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:01, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*A link would have been nice. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:09, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*'''Weak Accept, but Move''' Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:21, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Secone."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 04:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 20:06, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' I agree with Donnny and at is why I '''Accept.''' Why is that a reason not to accept? The standard should be that it be something amusing or interesting which someone might not notice without reading this WIKI. Why else does this WIKI exsist? [[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''accept''' When Homestar's mad, anything can happen!--[[User:mk5due|mk5dude]] 1 April 2005
*'''Decline''' My guess is that he didn't go inside the Lappy screen, but in front of it.--[[User:Bonk|Bonk]] 17:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Then how did become pixalated? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:53, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homestar entering the Lappy's screen defies the laws of physics as is. It isn't much of a stretch from there to have him appear overtop of the correction fluid. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline the Declines (AKA accept)''' This is very interesting, and I didn't even notice it until i read this. I don't understand why it was stuffed or why everyone seems to hate it so much. I think it's GOLD! [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 16:57, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' AGAIN, being clever is far from a prerequisite for a fun fact. Although honestly I'm not seeing what's so "GOLD" about it... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:07, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Bedroom Window====
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Revise = Very Yes. Run-on sentences hurt my brain. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:42, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**It wasn't a run-on, but I still Decline. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:08, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**It totally was. It should have been broken into two sentences; somewhere between "Presents" and "but".
**'''Revise, accept''' It is a run-on scentence. Try:
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. However, in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere even though it should be in the shot.
*'''Decline''' He could just be laying at the other end of the bed, thus the room would be flipped. Gah, most of the "goofs" posted aren't even genuine and this is no exception. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This is not fun! Also, a run-on sentence needs to lack a conjunction or semicolon to be a run-on sentence, ***LACK*** an example would be this one I'm typing now. --[[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 18:44, 4 Apr 2005 (CET)
**Totally untrue. Run-on sentences can have conjunctions; haven't you ever seen someone overuse the word "and?" Example: I went to the store and I bought some candy and then I went home and then I watched TV. There are conjunctions there, but it's still run-on. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:34, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***The sentance is fine, it just uses commas in the wrong place. Still doesn't make this a good fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Seems interesting enough... and before the grammar police take over the world, it should be noted that you can't start a sentence with "however". -Dingell
*'''DECLINE, and I have proof.''' [[HR:xmas04.html|Watch the toon.]] When we first see Homestar in bed, we ''can't see the window.'' After he sits up, the camera moves, and ''lo and behold'' there the window is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Now, are we going to argue about Homestar Runner, or are we going to argue about grammar? ...Grammar!
***The original fact is not a run-on sentence. From ''The American Heritage Dictionary:'' A run-on sentence is "a sentence in which two or more independent clauses are not properly joined by a semicolon or conjunction." (This is backed up by other dictionaries.) The original fact has a conjunction (namely, ''but''), which properly joins the clauses. Therefore, although the sentence may be too wordy for some people, grammatically it's a good sentence.
***Technically, beginning a sentence with ''however'' is not wrong either. But it ''is'' poor style. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Breaking the Lappy====
Strong Bad indicates that The Cheat has a history of breaking the Lappy. Perhaps The Cheat demonstrated this tendency with the Compy 386 as well. This may explain why the Compy apparently bore a grudge against The Cheat, as demonstrated in [[couch patch]].
*'''Decline.''' First, this is really a stretch. Second, The Cheat didn't break the Lappy—Strong Bad was making that up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:03, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second.''' The Cheat doesn't break the Lappy, Strong Bad just blames him for his own problems. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I've carefully set aside the time for '''declining''' this fun fact. Strong Bad is obviously using the Cheat as a scapegoat here. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:50, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.'''[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:51, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite, then accept.''' You have a good foundation, but you rambled a little bit. I would just cut it to the fact that SB said "broke the lappy again," intending that the Cheat maay have broken it before.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 18:08, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[techno]]===
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

*'''Decline.''' I think the Silent Bob connection is a real stretch. The silent letter connection is much more reasonable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Revise.''' Funny, I think it's the other way around. It never occurred to me that "Silent J" would be anything but a play on "Jay and Silent Bob," but maybe that's my pop-culture-saturated brain. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:01, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The latter part doesn't work but the Silent Bob connection does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:42, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The 'Jay and Silent Bob' part is right on. The 'Jalepeño' part is wrong.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Comment.''' My brain is pretty saturated with pop-culture, too! However, it's from a time when Disco ruled and dinosaurs walked the earth! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' Jalepeño is the stretch; Silent Bob is the obviously correct one. And I haven't even watched J&SB! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:52, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I had thought he meant the fact that "Silent J" would mean he shouldn't actually say anything at all, so he was sort of duped, and he was mockingly calling him clever. I don't know. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 22:48, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm...no.Thats more of a stretch than the "jalepeno" part of the fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** I think this is what is meant as well. After reading an e-mail, Strong Bad almost always starts his response with "Well, [insert name]", or "......, eh [insert name]?" Since the writer is calling himself Silent J, Strong Bad is at a loss to use his name in his reply.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:38, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' FWIW, "jalapeño" does not in fact have a silent J. The j is pronounced like an h, but it's certainly not silent. - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:25, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' - but the only revision this needs is to remove the uncertainty, because it's clearly a reference to Jay and Silent Bob.
*'''Second''' - I immediately thought of Jay and Silent Bob. -[[User: Miss Free Country USA| Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' - I think the person who posted this fact was right. Whenever I see the name Silent J, it makes me think of Jay and Silent Bob, and I think TBC were also thinking of that. -[[User: Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*it is a reference to Jay and Silent Bob.

===[[the bet]]===
====Forgotten Lie====
Strong bad says in the King of Town DVD that the King does not live in a castle. However, in this email he seems to have forgotten all about it.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad does things like this frequently, and it's not the first time he's lied about something, i.e. The Cheat not having a computer in [[huttah!]] -Walking Armless
*'''Rewrite and accept.''' The idea's there, but it's a little wordy. Cut it down maybe to something like "Strong Bad said in the DVD that he didn't have a castle, but aspparently he does here."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:06, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I disagree that anything noted as "so far" is bad (though "this is the first time" is usually more appropriate.) However, this fact isn't totally true as stated, so '''Rewrite and accept''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Cory====
The painting marked "Cory" is most likely a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]].
*'''BACLINED! Wait, no...''' OR it could be a reference to [[cheat talk]]. OR it could just be some randomly chosen name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:43, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Well, Cory from [[cheat talk]] was a real person, so TBC couldn't have come up with that. And cheat talk Cory is a city in the Homestarverse. Painting Cory and Camdidate Cory are people. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 12:54, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** So what if they didn't invent the name for cheat talk? The name still came up, so the "reference" is just as valid. And, as I said, there's the whole "randomly chosen name" scenario. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The answering machine could have been referring to a "Corey", or "Cori", not neccessarily "Cory".
*'''Most Likely Declined''' Your geekdar is overly sensitive, when was the last time you had an expert look at it? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

*Keep '''Mr. Mxyzptlk''' and '''The Great Gazoo'''. Scrap the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I thought we'd already declined this TTATOT fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:50, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Albi refs Abdi?? ====
Strong calls the author of the email Albi, which is a reference to the author of the first email, [[some kinda robot]], who was named Abdi.

*'''Decline.''' Albi is short for Albin, not a reference to Abdi. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Yep. Yep. Yeap. Second.''' -Walking Armless
**'''Threecond.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*...urge to kill...rising... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Guitar throw refs [[invisibility]]?? ====
When Space Gary throws his guitar and says "I guess I won't be needing THIS anymore," it is a reference to [[invisibility]]. Strong Bad says the same thing when he gets rid of the broken [[Tandy 400]] and replaces it with the [[Compy 386]].

*'''Decline.''' Inflection is different, throwing is different than knocking off the desk, and the line isn't even the same ("And don't need THIS anymore"). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Go TheEggman!!''' Uh... I mean '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:56, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Oh please... are you surfing HR.com randomly looking for things to correlate? '''Decline!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:12, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== rrll == grrl ?? ====
The use of "rrll rrll" is probably the latest version of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]."

*'''Decline.''' The latest version, what? "rrll" is for "real", "grrl" is for "girl" - what's the relation, besides not using any vowels? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''¡Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:53, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Segundo.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:34, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*It's not even worth it to be sarcastic. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Rudiments ====
"rrll rrll" is a common short-hand notation for a [http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments/06longroll.html double-stroke roll], which is a percussion rudiment executed by playing two strokes on a single hand followed by two in the alternate hand and repeating.

*'''Decline''' This is more likely a variation of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]." Also, percussion stickings are written exclusively in caps; I think this reference would be more believable if the line appeared as "RRLL RRLL" in the e-mail. [[User:Svelt|Svelt]] 23:20, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Living in Houston, I hear people pronouncing "real" as "rrll" about 2,568 times a day. I took this as a joke based on southern accents. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 04 Apr 2005
*'''Accept?''' I dunno, this struck me as kinda obvious at first, seeing how the entire e-mail deals with music... [[User:SP|SP]]

====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting (and debating), this item was narrowly Accepted. It appears in a slightly rewritten form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Rewrite this item. It appears in its Accepted form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Absolutely not!''' References to "This that and the other thing" are totally useless and encourage people to add to it, making it MORE useless. Maybe an Explanation or Remark, but not a Reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that. This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' You have the clear backbone for a Fun Fact, but it needs severe rewording and needs to be a little less derogatory. (sp?)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:31, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's not a Goof, because it was on purpose. I'd call it an Explanation. Don't mention a specific cartoon, as it fits the whole genre. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:32, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold is in question)

*'''Accept:''' Babylon 5 is similar enough to Groupulon 5, and it's the same genre as both Star Trek and the email itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' It's my opinion that for the reason above the Babylon reference is much stronger than the Star Trek reference. If the B5 ref is a stretch it seems to me that the ST ref is equally stretchy. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline:''' it seems too much of a stretch to me. personally i think it's just a generic sci-fi sounding name that they came up with.[[User:Keab42|Keab42]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 18:25, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Third''' Changing my vote from straight Accept, only because I noticed that it was the B5 reference that was in question. The ST:TNG reference is still solid, being that they're both the pilot/first episodes of T.V. shows that take place in outer space. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:14, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:colonization]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:18, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:36, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Just because it's already shown doesn't mean it's not a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:17, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon, ''' '' PLEASE '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''EXTREME DECLINE!!!''' This is a pathetic fun fact. That's all there is to it.--[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 13:54, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I have no problem with this one. Remove the last sentence, and you're good to go. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Unadulterated Decline''' Come on, it's like you're not even trying. -Walking Armless
*'''The Klein.''' It's just a title effect. Besides, this doesn't give us any new information or insights. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:09, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== You killed Pom-Pom! ====
When storng bad said he killed pom-pom it may be a reference to south park and them "killing Kenny"

*'''Decline''' Uh...no. "Storng" Bad was just trying to scare Marzipan with a crank call. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:36, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unmatchable Decline''' Spell right, blast ye! -Walking Armless
*'''Delcine.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*You may be a reference to the superfluousness of the Shift Key... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' If he always pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"? Just saying... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Almost everyone is saying that this is common. But really - other than "pimecone" and "pamcake", when has Homestar EVER switched Ms and Ns? I can't think of even one other time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Accurate, but not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:38, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move?''' Perhaps this would be worth noting in Homestar's character page?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:56, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' What, nobody can answer my question? Then this fact is very likely TRUE! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:31, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' SB's makin' 'em up on the fly. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' The voting on this one stopped about a month ago tomstiff, it has been changed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:37, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I thought if a vote wasn't closed, then it was ... well ... open! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Woah. Isn't what brings this community together the laughter and enjoyment that homestar runner gives us? If you want to play the intellectual superiority game, why don't you go over to the MENSA wiki?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:01, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Are you talkin' to ''me''? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:10, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.'''Nope, I was talking to Islayedthekerrek. No manners at all. Sorry for not making it clearer.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Sorry tomstiff, I just want to forget this one, but the fact HAS been changed already, so if you really hate this one, then STUFF the new version. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:38, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I don't hate it ... at least not yet ... JOKE! I didn't realize it had been "closed" until after I voted. My point is ... if it's closed then why is it still open? To paraphrase a vote much further up the page ''It ain't closed until The Eggman closes it.'' And with that, let me re-unofficially close what had been unofficially closed. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Lol''' Thanks for making me look like a fool, man by quoting me. Naw, seriously, I was just angry at myself for making such a dumb fun fact. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''D'oh!''' I had no idea I was quoting ''you''. Any fool-making was purely accidental! Let's get this thing closed before more hilarity ensues! Yoo hoo! The Eggman! Over here! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:04, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Too Late!''' The hilarity be ensuing already! I was just kidding when I said you made me look like a fool, though... '_' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 22:44, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''I'm here... and getting to it...''' I just did a huge number on the finished ones up through Best Thing the other night. I'll get from Rock Opera on in the next day or so - been busy with non-H*R stuff... (I know, I know, heaven forbid...) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 03:45, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:The Best Decemberween Ever]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:21, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk: Kick the Can]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second.''' At best, this should be called a goof. However, people who enjoy reading goofs would probably scorn this level of pickiness (maybe. I don't care for what people call goofs here personally...)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:15, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
***I've seen "Goofs" around here a LOT worse than this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept!''' Good enough for me. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 03:53, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Pizzle the Nizzle ====
The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.

*'''Decline.''' Both the Johnny Mercer song and strongbad's line refer to evangelical preaching in general. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 08:41, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Evangelical preaching? Huh? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:51, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Actually, no. '''Decline.''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:18, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' I know I'm prolly in the minority here, but it's what ''I'' thought of when I heard the line for the first time. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:51, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

'''VERDICT:''' This fun fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:24, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:20, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Comment''' Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]]

===[[funny]]===
====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.
*'''Decline''' Do I really need to say why? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Who cares if he never blinks? [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]]
***'''Third''' I don't think ANY character in H*R blinks! -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Comment''' Actually Homestar blinks, ''quite'' frequently, I might add. [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Okay, okay. MOST characters don't blink, unless I'm missing something giant here. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:54, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' If you're gonna put something about a character in a cartoon and not the cartoon itself, I strongly suggest putting it on [[The Poopsmith]] character page.

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''-some Guest
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Makes sense to me. -Walking Armless

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

*'''Decline.''' I've never seen ''Buck Privates'' but unless there's a scene with Lou under a Heavy Lourde type weight and Bud under a sack of potatoes this sure seems like a stretch to me -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2004
**'''Second''' Indeed. There are more cartoons/movies where that happens. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:33, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

*'''Decline.''' But wait. If the drink is actually called something else then it's *not* available. Da Bros are just making fun of Starbucks, not refering to a real drink. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this not the exact name of a Starbucks drink, the person who posted this fact also had the drink wrong; a Mochaccino is not the same as a Frappuccino or even a Mocha Frappuccino, and "double double" refers to the amount of espresso in the drink, not the size of the drink (so we don't know it's Venti).
**A "Double Double" refers to a coffie having 2 creams and 2 sugars. But still '''Decline'''.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 06:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Yes, if you're drinking regular coffee. A Mochaccino is an espresso-based drink. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 07:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Seriously, read what you just said... how can it be the same thing, if it's NOT the same thing? Yeesh. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I can't even follow the sentence. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline...''' They probably just took every coffee shop term that sounded good and blended them together. [[User:SP|SP]]

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.
*'''Decline.''' This seems like a real stretch. Sometimes an intercom is just an intercom. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:44, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' TBC [http://www.theinkhole.com/homestar2.htm watch SBTB]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:13, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' TBC may watch it. But I still think it's far fetched. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:40, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.
*'''Decline.''' Or it could just be a silly-slash-funny mis-spelling with no referrence to the real-world. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:30, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's most likley a play on the words "Super Group". --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' I've heard, seen and read Soopa used as Super before. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:00, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' You should have stopped at "stretch" and just hit the back button. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:49, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.
*'''Decline.''' This reference is in no way relevant to TGS or H*R. It's explained in the transcript that "Truk" is a misspelling of "truck" as a caption to the poorly-drawn truck on Tompkins shirt. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Third''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:37, 6 Apr 2005
*'''Dcln''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:50, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Dreamail doesn't have a back button either. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:15, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
**The One '''Second... ''TO RULE THEM ALL!!!''''' [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 21:41, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' I don't see any problem with two pages cross-referencing each other. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Accept.''' This is important enough to warrant an entry. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** 30 '''Second'''s before impact! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:58, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''The Cline.''' This has nothing to do with it. Putting salt on his leg was just a reference to "I'd rather gnaw my own leg off.". [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:40, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

'''VERDICT:''' After several months of voting, this item was Accepted. It has been added to the Trivia section of [[2 years]] and the discussion is archived on the [[talk:2 years]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:51, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:2 years]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

*'''Neutral''' I doubt its a reference to any those, but for some reason, I don't want to decline it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:03, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak decline - needs severe rewrite''' This is actually a combination of several entries from that page that should have been combined in a single fact, so I did. The trouble is, there are way too many references noted here. The "roomier than it looks" gag isn't anything new, and severe rewrite on this is needed in order for this to be acceptable. At the very least, the Oscar and TARDIS references need to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:53, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Alls I know is that Snoopy's house was huge on the inside. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 09:00, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to this... and a reference to that... and a reference to this other thing... and a reference to something else... make up your mind! I hate "facts" like this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:05, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline''' Nice thinking, but I think it gets used to much to be an actual reference to anything. The gag is also used in Eek! The cat (Sharky's house), and SpongeBob Squarepants (Patrick's house).
*'''Comment''' In the book, "The ultimate unnofficial guide to the mysteries of Harry Potter", they say in the fouth book chapter that it's a reference to the TARDIS in Dr. who when the tent really was a three room flt at the Quidditch World Cup, Or Moody's trunk in "Veritaserum"!
** How would THEY know what TBC were thinking? Was H*R even mentioned?! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:53, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** So? In any case, '''Patsy Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:52, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Accept''' I was about to decline this one until that last comment... I mean, if Harry Potter can make a Dr. Who reference, why not TBC? And if TBC can make a Dr. Who reference, why can't they make a reference to Peanuts, Oscar the Grouch, Spongebob, Stick Stickley, The Fresh Prince, Rocky III, and whoever else listed above has a roomy house.

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:55, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''FunFact=very yes.''' I like this fun fact a lot, and even remember it when it was among the other fun facts. I wonder why it was stuff'd. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 18:17, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' And Strong Bad's left boxing glove looks the same as his right boxing glove...

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless
**'''Decline for the pudgy.''' What the armless guy said. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1 after several weeks of voting, this item is accepted. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinio''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Since there is a staircase next to Homestr's room, either his room is on the second floor or he has a basement." That should take care of any confusion.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.
*'''Accepterific''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:07, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''ACCEPT'D!''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 10:49, 16 Apr 2005 (EST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Der Klein''' Find out what the game is, and maybe this'll work. Until then, don't waste our time, especially if you only THINK it's a reference. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Sprechen'd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:14, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:03, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.
*'''Decline''' There, you just said it yourself. Shortly ''>>'''AFTER'''<<'' the release of this e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.
*'''Decline.''' It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says. And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''No no no.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.
*'''Decline.''' Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Weak Accept.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept, Second''' I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
*<strike>'''Actual Decline.'''</strike> All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! <strike>I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds.</strike> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I'd agree if just ''one'' CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they ''all'' have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh*''' Oh, great. Now ''I'm'' undecided, too. What's the real issue here? Is the shape there? Yes. Is it pretty well-formed? Yes. Did TBC put it there intentionally? I say no, but admittedly that's just a gut feeling. And you never know with those guys. So, as a straight "didja' notice?" fact, I'm persuaded to change my vote to '''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:06, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Definite Accept''' Also, the reason they All have the spot is that the Cheat Commandos are carbon copies of one image(with accessories, facial hair, etc.). Plus, Mickey's head would be in color; The Mickey logo, however, is the solid black tri-circle seen on the CC's. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' I mean, ''I'' think it's interesting... --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:41, 13 Apr 2005
*'''<strike>Kevin 'Cline''' It's just a dot. It may be in that shape, but it's definitely unintentional. I mean, do you ever intentionally draw your dots in the shape of Mickey Mouse heads?</strike> Eh. I'm neutralizing. And gasp at the below comment. (EDIT) Ouch. Just struck out everything. Damn slash. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Weak Decline.''' Google search for Hidden Mickeys if you're interested in the time-honored tradition for Disney artists to hide Mickey heads in everything they can get their hands on. That being said, he Mickey head I see on the Commandos is fairly deformed. The ears are too small and too close together, for instance. Since this probably wouldn't pass muster for a Hidden Mickey, I'm giving a pass on this fact. (and for SP, yes I do draw my dots in the shape of Mickey heads!) <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 00:42, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===
==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

'''VERDICT''' - A revised version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

*'''Decline.''' If that was true, Strong Bad would more likely write "HJLWHOUISNASNKL?A STUPID!! GUY I AM A STUPID GUY!! HA HA HA!!!!GUIS kljIUS SJ". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:16, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*That was one incident! You can't say that Strong Bad would write like that all the time. And you can't honestly say that sounds like Strong Sad. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:39, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*<s>'''Revise, Accept''' Too much speculation as written, but I must admit that it DOES look a bit more like SB's handiwork than SS's. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)</s>
*'''Decline''' I'm not seeing Strong Bad listening to a live David Bowie track... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:36, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**And doubt Strong Bad could draw that good. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:42, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** We ARE talking about the same Strong Bad, right...?
*You're using his art and musical tastes as an argument? Strong Bad's drawings of Trogdor during the theme is just as good as Saddy Dumpington, and Strong Sad would not call himself Dump*, let alone call anyone a hippie. And Strong Bad's character in no way reflects his music choices. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:15, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**What makes you think the drawings at the end of [[dragon]] are Strong Bad's? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***What makes you think the Saddy Dumpington drawing is Strong Sad's? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:54, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**My point is, TBC would never make a joke that subtle. For example, [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] didn't end without proofing who really judged the pumpkins. This "fact" is almost silly as ye old [http://old.hrwiki.org/index.php?page=MarzipansAnsweringMachine%2FVersion+10.2%2FComments Homestar prank call debate]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:35, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** So you're saying it DOES look like the kind of thing Strong Sad would write, what with all the typical Strong Bad comments? ("Dumpington", "freaking", "hippie", etc.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:35, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Yes/Maybe, I highly doubt Strong Bad would praise Francis Scott Key. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:10, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Oh, and thanks to whoever added "Strong Bad's Lament to this section. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:16, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Vote change!''' Yup, I'm changing my vote. To a simple '''Accept'''. I didn't notice that his password really WAS given out on the page! I'm still pretty confident that the writing style and choice of words look more like SB than SS. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:00, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' [[User: Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]
*'''Accept''' Like Jay said above, I also don't think Strong Sad would use the words "freaking" and "hippie". I also don't think he "rocks out", even orchestrally, but that's just my opinion. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Secondinate!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 16:59, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*Not the first. I know, [[homsar]], [[homsar]]. But his message is longer than "Yeah, what is it Strong Bad?". Maybe with some rewording? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline, or severe rewrite.''' Given the fact that this could become false in the future, as well as the item's subjective opinion, this one shouldn't be included. And what about "Hey Reggie, is that rhinocerous around?" That's a legible sentence - in fact, everything he says is legible. It just doesn't make any sense. Possibly the word you're looking for is "intelligible" or something along the lines of "Homsar's message makes the most sense out of anything he has ever said." But again, you're dealing with the "could be become false later" issue. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:15, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:26, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept'''. Very noteworthy. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 02:00, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Opinion ("the most...ever") I don't think a rewrite would solve much. --[[User:The Paper|THE PAPER]] 16:42, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Severe Decline with a Complete Rewrite''' Is it noteworthy? Yes ... yes it is. Is it the most legible thing he's ever said? Dunno, I've never seen the Haddi-man's handwriting. It may be the most intelligible thing he's ever said ... to date. That's what makes this a bad fact: Homsar could become the most erudite cast member tomorrow. To quote from [http://www.ibras.dk/montypython/episode23.htm#3 Scott of the Sahara]...Rewrite! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:59, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I'm assuming this message was made in response to [[homsar]] to bring Homsar back since he was supposedly "killed". Also, since he was relatively new as a character, he wasn't as of yet uniquely nonsensical, as he is now. I'm believin' that's the reason this is the most legible thing he has ever written...I mean, said. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 02:02, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Yes, I meant intelligable, not legible. I forgot the word. I meant it makes sense the most. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:55, 16 April 2005 (MDT)
**Not to super nitpick, but the best word to use would probably be "sensible", since intelligible is just the ability to say words and sentences. He says stuff just fine, it just never makes any sense. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 03:07, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''"That's a real popular song! Who want's to hear that it's ACCEPTED!"''' Yep, I think this is a good point! Great job! *claps*--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 23:50, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

==Games==
===[[Peasant's_Quest]]===
====Two names?====
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.
*'''Fhqwdlcinds''' So??? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So, rather dashing's real name name is Julio. Good catch! Just '''revise''' it so that its a little more obvious. Try:
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in
Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.
--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Me Declino Infinito.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:09, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''REWRITE'D!''' I was the one who wrote the thing anyway, so I rewrote it with -erson-san's suggestion. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:09, 14 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline the new one too''' It's still useless, and perhaps now moreso - are we next going to say that his name is Misspeller Jones? (Type "get plague" near the lantern.) It's a joke. Just go with it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' But, it might NOT be. Geez, why does everyone always decline everything around here? --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 10:45, 16 Apr 2005
*** Oh, wait, what was that word? "Might"? As in, you're not certain? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:08, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But the fact that Rather Dashing is saying "Me llamo Julio" as a conversation starter to the Kerrek would be a different case. Do you ever say "Hello my name is..." and mention an incorrect name? And about the "Misspeller Jones", is it not common for people to make up nicknames for people about their different characteristics? Like you call a clumbsy person "Butterfingers" even though his real name is Bob, or a bad typist "Misspeller Jones" even though his real name is Julio? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:34, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****It sounds to me like the sort of thing you'd find in the first five pages of a beginners' Spanish textbook, and without otherwise knowing what to say to the Kerrek, he just rambled relative nonsense. We know his real name, and it's not Julio. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:06, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******We dont ''know'' that his real name is Rather Dashing, the character doesn't actually say it himself. Just the narrator. And whos more likely to know his own name, the narrator or Rather Dashing? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 02:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*******So, at the end of the game, the NARRATOR tells Trogdor (who repeats it - in voice acting!) that his name is Rather Dashing? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:17, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
********Sorry, I never played to the end of the game. But honeslty, what are the odds that if he was talking nonsence he would utter a phrase that just happens to be a very popular opening statement when meeting new people? And, there is no where in the game where it tells you Rather Dashing can't speak Spanish. Perhaps he though Kerrek spoke spanish.
*********Yes, I just double-checked the ending. The narration says "You scream that your name is Rather Dashing", followed by a long speech with a computer voice reading along (a direct quote by Trogdor), ending in "It will be a pleasure to burninate you, Rather Dashing." One random piece of text may give small credence to your theory that RD's real name is Julio, but the entire rest of the game contradicts it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:24, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Perhaps a rewrite than to indiciate that Rather Dashing's name may be Julio according to that text?--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 02:31, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I don't think Fun Facts is a place for theories that "may be" true based on a possible interpretation of one statement. '''Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:30, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yet Another Comment.''' We all know that "rather dashing" is a term meaning you're good-looking. Maybe he just calls himself that because he thinks he's, well, good-looking. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:41, 17 Apr 2005 (EST)
*How do we know he just didn't read that off of a Spanish textbook? It's just as much speculation to say that Rather Dashing CAN speak Spanish as it is to say he can't. Can't you just accept that this is random TBC humor? Seriously, this is a bigger stretch than Dhalsim. '''Me llamo decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting this item was unanimously declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:53, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

'''Verdict:''' After several weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 23:09, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. '''All Your Second Are Belong To Us''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]
*'''Decline''' I'd agree with you, but there's proof that says otherwise.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:11, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
=== Cross-Toon Facts ===
==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
** The point to this fact is that people have attempted to add it to MANY emails under MANY circumstances (and some incorrectly labelled it "the first" instead of "one of the few".) Notice that this is under "Cross-Toon Facts". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2005-04-19T11:23:13Z

Lunar Jesters: STUFF'D

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)
**Right now they are in [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive]]
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.

== Toons and E-mails ==

===[[trevor the vampire]]==
*When Strong Bad says "I mean what the", he types "I mean what the f". Presumably, Strong Bad was about to type the "F" word.

'''Decline.''' He could be saying something like "freakin' crap". --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 11:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[japanese cartoon]]===

====So cool an unseen email====
Strong Bad says "So cool an e-mail, I thought you would enjoy it," as if he has read it before he replied to it. However, in other emails (such as part-time job or your friends) he acts surprised to see the content, as if he has not read it before.
*'''Decline''' I have trouble saying why, but I know there's something wrong with this. Be it that it's part of the haiku, or something else, I don't think this really needs to be stated. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 05:23, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''So cool a Decline, I thought I would Second it.''' This is a parody of the [http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_KLEZ.H&VSect=T Klez] email virus that used the infamous subject line "so cool a flash,enjoy it". It's not meant to imply that Strong Bad has actually read the email beforehand. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 08:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*** That's it. Thanks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 08:11, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Oolong's Namesake====
Someone named Oolong Singy is credited for [[Combolations]] in the cartoon, this may be a reference to Oolong the pig from Dragon Ball or [[Wikipedia:Oolong (rabbit)|Oolong the rabbit]], whose owner is Japanese.
*'''Decline.''' I figure the reference is most likely to Oolong, the traditional Chinese tea enjoyed throughout Asia. The characters mentioned here are named after the tea. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 07:49, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[rampage]]===

====rampage easter egg====
At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
* '''Decline''' It's already mentioned on the page, and worded MUCH more cleanly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Oh oops. I missed that.
* '''However,''' there is something else. In the Rampage easter egg, the Cheat looks like the Strong Badman version of himself, as shown in the Sketchbook on September 2, 2005.

===[[The Li'l Brudder Show]]===

====Ugly Animation====
The animation resembles the work of [[Wikipedia:Klasky Csupo|Klasky Csupo]] (most famous for [[Wikipedia:Rugrats|Rugrats]]), in which characters were often of the ugly-but-suppose-to-be-cute kind. The resemblance is strongest in the "skydiving" segment.

*'''Decline''' Wha...? Obviously not! Li'l Brudder is ''supposed'' to look raggety- he was made to make someone cry! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime''' Li'l Brudder pretty much looks the way Strong Bad drew him originally. He looks odd in the skydiving sequence 'cuz he's prolly falling at near terminal velocity! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:44, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Not So Li'l Decline''' Li'l Brudder's the only one that may look "ugly" due to the addition of visible black hairs all over his body and discolored teeth. Tendafoot looks exactly like the two-legged elephant Strong Bad drew, and the Legless Parrot and Human-Nosed Possum look like animated copies of the real animal, just with the aforementioned maladies. I think TBC made Li'l Brudder "uglier" to draw more pity for everybody's favorite go-getter. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 17:01, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Withdrawn''' I posted this originally, and on closer inspection I agree that Li'l Brudder looks more like Courage the Cowardly Dog than a K C creation. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Late 360 Shove-It To Decline'd!''' I think its unintentional, but kinda true about the "ugly, but cute" part. In spite of that, I also '''Second''' all of the above. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' He looks more like something John Kricfalusi (of the Ren and Stimpy fame) would create. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[impression]]===
====What year is it?====

The form for the penmanship contest says 2004 Sectional Finals, however, the sign for the contest said 2003.

'''VERDICT:''' This goof has been accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:impression]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 16 Apr 2005
*'''ATTENTION GafAddict and Upset Your Balance and any other VERIDCTers''' - The standard voting period is 2 weeks. Please do not close any items that are newer than that that. In other words, check the first vote, if it's less than two weeks old, DON'T TOUCH IT! Also, if you're going to VERDICT an item, please sign your name and date as though you were signing a vote (two hyphens and four tildes)
**'''I think this one is a special case.''' It was STUFFed based on a false assumption. But I didn't VERDICT it, so... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***GafAddict did a few a day or so ago, and I've seen others get VERDICT'd well before the two week period. Also, whoever does it needs to sign it, so I figured I'd post it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*I have added my name and the date to the verdict. (Yes, it was me.) I'm not sure of the exact time of the verdicting though. And as Jay said, because it was STUFFed based on a false assumption, I put it back and verdicted it early. For other STUFF'd items, the VERDICT shall wait two weeks. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===[[dangeresque 3]]===
====Constantinople?====

The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.
*'''Decline.''' Istanbul is often used in the movies as a dangerous and exotic locale. Any resemblance to a TMBG song, living or dead, is purely coincidental. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's also [[Wikipedia:Istanbul|a real place]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Today's forecast is '''total crap.''' When will you people learn the difference between references and coincidences? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:37, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*"May be"...ugh. '''Decline''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' This fact wasn't just added to the page yesterday; it's been there for ''nine months.'' It's listed in the history as far back as you can go. Thousands of visitors to the page have already seen it and have tacitly given it their approval. The comments above make it sound like there's ''no chance'' that TBC chose Istanbul intentionally, but let me '''put it in context:''' in the few weeks leading up to this email, there were several [[Puppet_Jam:_Vitamins/Celebrities|Puppet Jams]] added to the site. Just a few weeks after the email, [[Experimental Film]] was released (so, being a song, it was likely already in the works at the time of the email). And you're telling me they ''didn't'' have TMBG on the brain? I don't think so. Too coincidental. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:41, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''I think not.''' Being on a page for a long time does not make a fact fun. It is a coincidence, 'nuff said. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' What It's dot com said. Believe me, if you listen to TMGB for too long, it's hard to think of Istanbul without mentally adding "...not Constantinople..." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:37, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Or maybe Istanbul is just a cool-sounding place and TBC weren't making a nod to TMBG. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:33, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:42, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*"I dunno about you The Ugly One, but I say this one should be '''accepted!'''" I really think so though. I agree with everybody who said it should be accepted. I've read over this debate, and do think that that whole thing's a TMBG refrence.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 21:48, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If, someday, a birdhouse shows up in a cartoon, will that be a reference to that birdhouse song? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:49, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's beside the point (although "birdhouse" is not a word that most people use every day). Just about everybody familiar with TMBG knows their song "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and identifies one with the other. I again refer you to the ''context'' of last summer (see my comments above), and considering that, I really don't think this fact is a stretch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Well, I never gave this thing any approval, tacit or otherwise. I've patrolled this page many times and everytime I read this "fact" I wrinkled my nose. I avoided STUFF-ing it because (1) unless I'm in the right mood it's tiresome and tedious and (b) I was afraid to expose my lack of hepitude. Hep or not, I still maintain this fact is based on the purest of speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[flashback]]===
====Discount Flashback Warehouse====
In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad sounds a lot like Senor Cardgage. In fact, the whole easter egg resembles the Senor Cardgage Mortgage toon.
*'''Declinating the countryside, declinating the peasants...''' Of COURSE Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage sound similar - they're alternate versions of the same character. As for similarities between the two, all I see is that they're both commercials. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 11:48, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:40, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster''': After watching it a couple more times, I see that the second part is quite a stretch. As for the first part, I think I need to clarify: Strong Bad ''talks'' like Senor Cardgage, i.e. he uses a monotoneous voice. (Nice decline message tho'...) Therefore, the fun fact '''rephrased:''' In the Discount Flashback Warehouse easter egg, Strong Bad's style of speaking is similar to that of Senor Cardgage.
*Excardon me, but what differation does that make, Valerie? '''Decriminoted (decline).'''' [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
*Okay, maybe it's just me, but does anybody else notice that Strong Bad's voice is kinda rasp and expressionless? That's whay I'm basing the whole thing on.
*'''Decline''' Matt Chapman can only do so many different voices, and it makes it especially hard to try and do two alternates to the same character. Strong Bad also does somewhat of a Senor Cardgage voice at the end of [[theme park]]. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Comment''' One might also add that both seem to have a common source. That is, the cheap television ads that small businesses create. If you somehow don't know what I'm talking about, just watch a local network for a little while, you'll see and hear plenty of dead air, gaudy graphics, poor diction, and bad acting. Actually, I don't know how you can fully appreciate Homestar Runner without having watched even that small amount of tv.
**SIGN YOUR VOTES! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***"Comment" is not a vote. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:27, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* '''D3kl1n3!!''' I didn't bother to read all this to see if somebody had already said this, but The 'Discount' bit came before 'Senor Cardgage' bit. --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 02:50, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Here comes the Thnikka-Decline-Man!''' Um, its also a second with kerrek slaya, but sewiously, this did come out before [[Senor Mortgage]]. Check yer facts, folks. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:43, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment from original poster:''' Ah cwap, I did forget to check the release dates. My apologies to the hrwiki users. This might have been the wohst hundwed wohds I evoh spent.
**'''Note on the characters:''' Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage are not the same person or even alternate versions of one another. According to Strong Sad, Senor Cardgage was a real person who lived nearby the Strongs' home. Creepy Comb Over Strong Bad is a hypothetical version of Strong Bad who ''resembles'' Senor Cardgage. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:51, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)

===[[replacement]]===
====Strong Mad sings====
Strong Mad says "I'M STRONG MAD," which could be a reference A Jumping Jack Contest, in which Strong Mad poses as Strong Bad and says a similar line.

*'''Delorted''' This is just the kind of stuff Strong Mad says. Plus, "could be's" are 110% STUFF-worthy. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:01, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* Or maybe he's just saying "I'm Strong Mad". Turn off your geekdar, kthx '''Delteated''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Pointless''' Strong mad says this '''A LOT.''' [[user:OWIE!|OWIE!]]
*'''Severe delcine!''' I mean, decline. Severe. Severe decline warning. I mean, [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline!!''' Oh my god! Strong Mad said "I'M STRONG MAD" in the same tone of voice he said "GARBLEDINA" in the Facts! It has to be a reference!
*'''Decline''' Strong Mad's lines rarely vary.
*'''INFINATELY SEVERE DECLINE-erson''' It sound alot more like a refrence to his own name! Why is it wierd for Strong Mad to introduce himself???? IT ISNT! --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:38, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:55, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*-erson, even though I know it's you, SIGN THE VOTE. And that goes for everyone else. In fact, I move that we start deleting unsigned votes. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:33, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Whoops, did I forget to sign? I keep doing that. Ok, its signed now. Sry.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:38, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:35, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Duh. '''Cedline. Wait...''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Dacheated almost beyond all recognition or how I learned to stop worrying and to Decline the bad fun facts-erson.''' This is not a fun fact exactly. Its a "It could be," anyway. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:39, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**You -erson theif!!!!! Oh well, at least its gaining popularity.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:23, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I can't imagine why, as it was only mildly funny the FIRST time... but hackneyed and annoying from then on. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:41, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' In A Jumping Jack Contest, he says "I ''am'' Strong Bad." In this one he just says "''I'm'' Strong Mad. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

===[[spring cleaning]]===
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===[[rampage]]===

====Poetic chops====
Ironically, while Strong Sad glorifies iambic pentameter, his creation is a pretty bad example of it. He twists the stresses on "lyric rampage," properly pronounced LY-ric RAM-page (a pair of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trochee trochees]), into ly-RIC ram-PAGE (a pair of iambs).

*'''Decline.''' I agree with what you're saying. Also, it's not much of a rampage to be reciting at a rate of 2 syllables per second. However, I don't think anyone learns anything from this fun fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Wait a '''Second!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I think it's funny that Strong Sad has to artificially make trochees into iambs, but maybe I'm just a nerd. Anyway, I'm sure not everyone will know this, so accept! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:38, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' Sign yer vote!
**'''Weak Second to a Strong Accept.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Third the Nerd''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''seconding the third''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''seconding the seconding of the third of the...whatever. I agree.''' [[user:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
****'''20x6ing the 1936''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''''
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:56, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
**'''Comment''' There is already a similar fun fact on the page.
*Great jorb!
** Uh... is that a vote? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:06, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Strong Sad, Charles Barkley, and Ruben Studdard...long lost triplets?====
Strong Bad's insult of "round mound of gray fatness" towards Strong Sad could be derived in part from the nickname of former NBA player [[Wikipedia:Charles Barkley|Charles Barkley]], the "Round Mound of Rebound." Also, Ruben Studdard, who won [[Wikipedia:American Idol|American Idol]] in 2003 and bears more than a slight resemblance to Strong Sad in shape, is sometimes known as the "Round Mound of Sound."

*'''Decline.''' Before Jay gets to it: This, that, and the other... If it's been used more than once elsewhere, it's not a specific reference, and therefore, unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:09, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** Well, this is two unrelated things, and (if it's true) exactly one of them is it, but we don't know which. Not EXACTLY the same thing as my usual "this that and the other thing" complaint -- ''but'' -- it's too much of a stretch in either case without some extra info, so I do have to agree with '''Decline'''-ing it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Barkley and Ruben don't even look alike, much less Strong Sad. 20:52, --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Comment.''' A little Googling shows that [http://www.luma-electronic.cz/lp/p/Kenny/price_k_walking.htm Kenny Price] was the first Round Mound of Sound, way back in 1969. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Is the SB's insult of the "Round Mound of [something that rhymes with round and mound]" type? Of course it is. Is it notable? Given that the reference has been around for at least 36 years, probably not. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:17, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:58, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Sad is round, a mound, gray, and fat. The only thing Strong Bad's insult is a reference to is Strong Sad's appearance. Can you streeeeeeeeetch? -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:46, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Round Mound of Decline''' Does "Gray Fatness" rhyme with "Round" and "Mound?" [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Rewrite''' it into something a bit more streamlined. Something like: "'Round Mound of Fatness' is a reference to other characters such as Kenny Price, the 'Round Mound of Sound', and Charles Barkely, the 'Round Mound of Rebound'". I like this Fun Fact, though.

====Dumpy Dump sat on a wall====
Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "DJ Dumpy Dump" could be a combination reference to the rappers DJ Jazzy Jeff and Humpty Hump (who Coach Z once dressed up as for Halloween). It may also be a reference to rapper Doug E. Doug.

* '''Decline''' all but Humpty Hump - it's the only one close enough. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:02, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise''' As said above, just stick with Humpty Hump. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 20:16, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' Now then, if he was being called "DJ Dazzy Dump", I'd agree that it might also be a reference to jazzy jeff. But that's not what's going on here. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' Humpty Hump is a fairly clear reference, I think.
*'''Accept''' I don't get it. It seems to me it pretty clearly a reference to DJ Jazzy Jeff. I am sure the Brothers are familiar with both. Doesn't it seem likely that they were refering to both?[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Uh... no?''' It matches Humpty Hump with about three letters' difference. It matches Jazzy Jeff with about ONE letter's similarity. Why does it have to be both? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Silly''' They both sound a lot like it, but DJ Jazzy Jeff has the 'DJ' and the exact same rhythm. It is silly to just go by the letters.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*** If it's VERY close to one and SORTA KINDA VAGUELY IN A WAY close to the other, why even entertain the sorta kinda vague one? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** DJ Jazzy Jeff is not the only rapper with 'DJ' in his name. That's not a specific reference. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:32, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** While this is true. I am hard pressed to think of one that sounds so much like DJ Dumpy Dump. Clearly I am losing this vote. (Although four to one is a pretty small sample. I have checked with friends here and they agree with me for what it is worth.) I really honestly believe it is a reference to both. I would be extremely surprised to find that The Brothers were not aware of how much it sounds like both of them. [[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Decline all.''' It's not a specific reference to any of those - it's a reference to Strong Bad calling Strong Sad "dumpus". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well, that TOO... but it's pretty close to Humpty Hump, so I wouldn't discount the reference possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***I know it was obvious - I'm just skeptical of any of these. It could also be a reference to Marky Mark, or Easy E (sic), or Flavor Flav, or... you catch my drift? Having the _____-y _____ thing for a name isn't THAT uncommon - and in this sense, if you've got people coming up with three or more '''possible''' references, well then perhaps it's not actually a specific reference, and as such, it probably shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:05, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DJ Decline''' There are more than one artist whose stage names begin with "DJ." There's no similarity between "Dumpy Dump" and "Jazzy Jeff." Go away. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' If you can't prove it, don't post it. I will say that the Dumpty Hump reference is the most likely one, especially if TBC have referred to the guy before. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''And a comment''' I'm seeing more and more people getting blunt or just plain rude with how they reject fun facts. I can appreciate this (alot of the supposed "facts" annoy me) but maybe its time the rules were revised a bit. Maybe limit the types of facts accepted or post clearer rules at the top of the page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' at least Humpty Hump. I also support keeping DJ Jazzy Jeff. Get rid of Doug E. Doug. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:59, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite.''' Ditch DJ Jazzy Jeff and Doug E. Doug.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' First thing I thought of was Jazzy Jeff... Then again, I'm rap-ly challenged. Humpty Hump for sure. [[User:SP|SP]]

====Wite Wrapper====
The fact that Strong Sad's "whiteness" is acknowledged on his CD refers to famous white rappers such as [[Wikipedia:Eminem|Eminem]] and [[Wikipedia:Vanilla Ice|Vanilla Ice]].

* '''Del taco... wait...''' Hey, boys and girls, let's see how far we can streeeeeeeeetch Fun Facts! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:40, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline''' Yeah this one is really stretching.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
** '''Second to last place.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 02:14, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Ding!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* ... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:07, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I agree that it is a reference to white rappers. The problem with this fun fact is 1)the joke is obvious and 2)Eminem is considered to be a GOOD rapper (even though I can't stand him) while Strong Sad is meant to flop. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:42, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''I think this one is worth our time, maybe we should accept it--DECLINED!''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline''' Hold on The Cheat! We're gonna stretch this fun fact to the MOOOOOOOOOOOOOON! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:22, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline. White is the color of his face. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' based on the fact that it's common household knowledge (well, some households) as far as white wrapperas and jokes about them go.--[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]]
*'''Decline''' plus '''side note:''' There already is a fun fact about this on the page. Furthermore, Coach Z is some sort of Canadian/Minnisotan/New Englander/Bostonian white boy himself, and he can rap better than anyone else on the site. In addition, The Brothers Chaps seem to be pretty good at rapping (at least when they write and perform for Coach Z). --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)

====English Lesson====
(under the ''quiver(ed)'' definition) In early Modern English, it would have been written "Quiver'd" (not to be confused with 404'D, Cerebellum'D, etc, etc.).
* '''Decline'd''' Don't worry, I wasn't confused in the slightest. Except, perhaps, as to why you made this 'fun' fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 06:46, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:07, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:43, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Decline.''' Number A, this is not interesting or relevant. Number B, how do you know Strong Bad didn't say it like Quiver'd? Quivered and quiver'd would be pronounced the same way. This shouldn't have even been STUFF'd. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:52, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**A,B,etc... are not numbers.
***You aren't a regular, are you? -Walking Armless
**Heh... good point on B, mibluvr13. I don't know why that didn't cross my mind when I STUFF'd this. Guess I was just thinking blindly about what was in the transcript without thinking about the actual toon. '''Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:01, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====I'm on a Rainbow====
Strong Bad capitalizing "Reading Rampage" in the e-mail could be an allusion to [[Wikipedia:Reading Rainbow|Reading Rainbow]], the popular 90's children reading show.
*<strike>'''Decline''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:49, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)</strike>
*'''Accept/Rewrite''' I don't like the phrase "could be" in that statement. But you might be on to something there --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
*'''Decline''' 100% pure Florida natural SPECULATION! -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline.''' How is capitializing a phrase a reference to anything? And it's still a stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**I submitted this fun fact because Strong Bad didn't capitalize any other rampages he mentioned, and looking at the phrase capitalized, it kind of looks and sounds like Reading Rainbow, at least alliteratively. It was the first (and so far only) thing that popped into my head as to why it was capitalized. Just wanted to state my case, whether or not it matters. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 17:26, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Heck no at all.''' This is a stretch and three quarters. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 13:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' That's pretty clever, actually! I like it. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:47, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Being clever is far from a prerequisite for a fun fact. Anyway, '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 05:13, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''SEVERE Decline!!!''' Anyone who thinks that is a reference needs to have their brain checked, no offense. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Are you kidding me? There's serious doubt. But not about whether this fact should be '''DECLINE'D!!!''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' If there's no certainty of the connection, it shouldn't be listed. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''VOTE CHANGE! SECOND!''' That's true, Beatfox. I think the only reason I voted yes before was because it sounded hillarious as a spoof...I mean, Reading Rainbow...Reading Rampage? Hahahahaha! Someone ought to make a flash 'toon about that![[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:45, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.'''If you do a google search for the phrase "reading rampage", you will see that there are a great many libraries in the U S of A that sponsor reading rampages! Still, I like the way you think. It's a stretch, but clearly you have a good sense of humor :)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:18, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*My Land! [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=reading+rampage Google] ''does'' show lots & '''lots''' of Reading Rampages going ORRRRF in the USA! This is more that just a stretch. The fact as written is just plain wrong. This is a real-world reference. I'm upgrading my vote to an '''Infinite Decline with a Major Rewrite.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:36, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' The rules of the STUFF'd page prohibit this type of unverified trivia. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:05, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*'''Weak Decline''' I think that although this could be a connection, I think that it's stretching it a little. Strong Bad ''vaguely'' says it like Reading Rainbow in the e-mail, but not so much that it stands out to you. I could see why you'd say this, but I still think that you're probably incorrect. -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 4:08 PM, 15 Apr 2005
*'''New Trell''' You do happen to provide sufficient reasoning for the Reading Rainbow reference, but the past comments on Reading Rampages are also... well... I DON'T KNOW. I'M NEUTRAL, I DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING! ...Yeah [[User:SP'd|SP'd is crazy]]

====Marzipan's Speech Impediment====
Marzipan seems to stutter uncharacteristically during the phrase "would be proud."
*'''Accept.''' I thought this was a rather unusual observation on a character who's normally very proficient with her speech. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:05, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' For once, I think this is legitimate. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 13:19, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It sure doesn't sound like "Geoff Chaucerbury" to me! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:43, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice this. Very nice. Clap, clap. -- [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 23:53, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Because, uh, why does it need to be in Fun Facts? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:23, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' It's noted in the transcript (would be is written twice). --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 01:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' True, but it's not immediately obvious to the casual reader. It could easily be overlooked or mistaken for a typo. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:39, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****'''Countercomment''' Dan vs. Jerome was similar in its construct - it was in the transcript but non-obvious. It was declined too. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 07:16, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:52, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a side of DECLINE!''' Sounded more like a simple flash goof to me. Nothing worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment''' Whatever it is, it's not a glitch. I checked it out in a sound editor. Not only are the two "would be's" unique, they make up one continuous phrase. There's no discontinuity in the waveform, and the tone of voice transitions seamlessly. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:14, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' -- I believe it's worth noting on a few counts. First, it's unusual for TBC to make this kind of goof. Second, it verifies what people believe they've heard. Third, it prevents people from trying to read into the dialog what's just not there (e.g. Geoff Chaucerbury). There! I doubt I swayed any of the Decliners, but I've had my say! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept '''but''' Move.''' Given that close analysis of the sound track has revealed that this is an actual occurance and not a glitch, it should be taken as valid, but perhaps would be best left as part of the transcript. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:15, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' Apparently, some less-informed person decided to correct this "typo" in the transcript. I have restored it and added an HTML comment to ward off such attempts in the future... whatever happened to the comment that was there before? In any case, we should at least have ''something'' on the page to point out this oddity. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:35, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Because''' someone changed it to "Chaucerbury", we talked about it, agreed it was wrong, and the person who changed it back didn't put back the comment. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Pie, Anyone?====
"The pie's the limit" may be refering to Strong Bad's wednesday pie motivational talks in [[other days]].
*'''Decline.''' Just because it contains "pie" doesn't necessarily mean it's a reference. And I don't like the "may be". [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 22:54, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline.''' I want to accept this, I really do, but there's just not enough there there. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:58, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''I can't think of a Decline pun right now''' Well, in my opinion, it's just a play on "The Sky's The Limit." Pie is actually a pretty widely used running gag on H*R, including the pie motivational talks mentioned earlier, piemonade, etc. So if anything, this should be in some other section. [[User:SP|SP]]
*'''Decline''' Hot soup is on my eye![[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' "The pie's the limit" is a reference to the old saying "The sky's the limit." Strong Bad was just being silly by saying pie instead of sky. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*I don't know why, but when I see "may be" in a fun fact, I can see a kitten dying. '''Declinester''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' That and it violates the guidelines of good fun facts (see top of page). --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:16, 17 Apr 2005

===Chicken Soup for the Soul===
One of the books seen during Strong Bad's "reading rampage" is titled Soup, Right?, a reference to the "[[Wikipedia:Chicken Soup for the Soul|Chicken Soup for the Soul]]" book series.
*'''Accept'''I like Chicken Soup! You dang right it's a reference![[User: Umbertowasted|Umbertowasted]]
*'''Decline.''' Stretchy stretchy Stretch Armstrong! <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 19:32, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:00, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I am sure this is an intentional reference.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I can see this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' They stretch you, and stretch you, and STREEEEEEEETCH you! --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 01:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' No more a stretch than the ''For Jerks'' book referencing the ''For Dummies'' ones. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Except that "Soup, Right?" doesn't sound at all like Chicken Soup for the Soul, whereas "(Topic) for Jerks" is just like "(Topic) for Dummies".
*'''Decline.''' Soup, Right? could be short for "Soup Done Right" or something like that. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 13:20, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''No way, Lucy.''' Sharing one word doesn't make it a reference. Seriously, people, you're not even trying anymore. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' You're stretching! Like RB said: It's only sharing ONE word!! Come on, people!! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:29, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' Not trying? Seems more like they're trying too hard. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Delete.''' There's not way that that is a reference. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:37, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I based my vote based on the fact that the books Strong Bad is reading are meant to sound like advice books. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''DELORTED!''' That almost definitely doesn't have anything to do with anything. That's like saying "Sweatshirtguy" is a reference to Rocky.
*'''Insert witty DECLINE comment here''' MAJOR STRETCH! Just cause they share the same word doesn't mean they're related. Wow. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
**'''Second.''' Totally unsupported theory. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:18, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Accept''' Definately a reference
**'''Sign teh vote!''' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 00:02, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**"Definately" not. '''DECLINED''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 01:56, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Inclined to Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

*'''Accept.''' While we're at it, "Biscuit" is a reference to "Seabiscuit."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Are you sure you didn't want to type decline? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 03:37, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===Its a Bird, Its a Plane, its Pie???===

"The pie's the limit" is a reference to the quote, "The sky is the limit," which is found on Thorax Corporation's website.

*'''Decline-erson''' Not only is this fact too obvious, but "The sky is the limit" is a cliché, and is not exclusive to Throax.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:23, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
* Well look who thinks he's Clever Dan. Wait, you're wrong, it's a reference to the Notorious B.I.G., he made a song called "Sky's the Limit" so he must've copyrighted the phrase!!!!111one Ugh... '''Decline x999''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:05, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Piecline.''' Sorry, that's the best I can do with this one. Why wasn't this just deleted? --- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**Because I wanted to make sure it wasnt just my oppinion that this stunk.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:48, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[time capsule]]===
====Norse mythology====
The line about making people from spit may be a reference to a Norse myth, in which the Aesir (war gods) and Vanir (fertility gods), to seal a peace treaty between them, made a man (named Braugi) from their collective spit. He knew all their combined secrets, but was eventually killed by giants.
*'''Decline.''' It's more likely a reference to the fact that spit contains DNA, and it may one day be possible to clone someone from their DNA. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Third''' Coincidental. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* While I'm suprised about how much you know about Norse Mythology...'''Decline''' [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Uh... no. While that's a very well thought-out reach, it's still a reach - the reference is to cloning from DNA. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:12, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' It's probably a reference to DNA and cloning. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:24, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* You obviously put a lot of work into this one, but unfortunately, I must '''Decrine.''' As said by other folks above, it's a reference to cloning from DNA. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:49, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Revise and Accept.''' This is a FUN FACT! Mind you, I highly doubt this is what TBC were trying to reference, but my life has been enriched by reading this. I would suggest rewriting it, however, to say "There is a story in Nordic mythology in which the Aesir (war gods)...." This way, there's no suggestion that TBC was trying to reference this fact.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No way does this work. The whole joke is based on the popular misconseption of what cloning is. Clones are genetic twins, not exact duplicates with the same minds, thoughts, and memories of the original. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:21, 17 Apr 2005

===[[pizzaz]]===
====Third Interview====
This is the third time Strong Bad has interviewed somebody. He "interviewed" [[Homsar]] (actually himself speaking for Homsar) in the email "[[interview]]" and he interviewed [[Homestar]] in the toon [[The Interview]].
*'''Accept.''' Nice one. [[User:hamrodrunner|hamrodrunner]]
*'''Decline.''' This should never have been STUFF-ed. It should have been deleted outright. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:48, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' To paraphrase a below quote, fun facts aren't made to count how many times things happen. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline to the moon''' Firsts are noteworthy... thirds aren't so much. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move/revise''' How about moving it to the Fast Forward of the "interview" e-mail and saying something like "Strong Bad also conducts interviews in [[The Interview]] and [[pizzaz]]." [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 17:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**How about not? Noting how many times Strong Bad conducts interviews isn't fun - anybody watching those e-mails can tell for themselves whether or not he's conducting interviews. And the fact that the two toons being referenced actually have the word "interview" in the title makes this one even more obvious and unnecessary. '''Declined''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:08, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:24, 17 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Nobody cares. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Severe Decline!''' First times are somewhat interesting, second times are not, and third times are hazardous to your health.
*'''Declination Nation.''' No offense, man. I mean, you should get credit for trying, but it's just, well, boring. No one cares.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Homestarloween Party]]===
====CREEPING floating DEATH flashlight====
When everyone is telling ghost stories, no one actually holds the flashlight with his or her hands. It just sort of floats in front of everyone. With Homestar, Marzipan, and the King of Town, this makes sense, since none of them have visible hands, but we should see everybody else's hands.

*'''Decline''' I suppose that they couldn't be seen holding the flashlight, but their arms could be behind the black circle, so...nope. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:59, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Declinez0rs''' Didn't we already see this? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:09, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Second''' I believe so, but apparently the person who posted this goof moved it back when he found it STUFF'd, so it was STUFF'd again. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline.''' This is just a continuation of one of the site's longest running gags: none of the characters have a normal physiology. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:27, 17 Apr 2005

===[[Fhqwhgads]]===
====Not Expecting====
Fhqwhgads actually just sent the Email as a joke. It was not intended to be used. However, Fhqwhgads, whose personal information will not be revealed because of a request not to, did say this in an AIM conversation: "I didn't spoof a virus. I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." If you don't believe this, you can contact him-his AIM screename is IamFHQWHGADS142. (He has pride that he is Fhqwhgads) -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]]

'''VERDICT:''' This item was closed on request by the author. See below for a new version of this fun fact. Voting moved to [[Talk:Fhqwhgads]]--[[User:-erson|<nowiki>Posted by </nowiki>-erson]] 01:27, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====The joke theory====
- (An outcome of "Not Expecting")
- It's been theorized that this [that the email was a spoof of the "i love you" virus] is not true. A person claiming to be Fhqwhgads said he actually just sent the Email as a joke, and that it was not intended to be used. "I didn't spoof a virus," he said, "I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." However, due to a concern about personal provacy, he would not give any information. -[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:36, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Still Decline''' Next thing you know the Wiki will be flooded with kids claiming to have their own story about why they e-mailed Strong Bad. Too much speculation, no real way to prove any of it. Its bad enough that we have people thinking they can get their fun facts in by putting "It may be" or "Its possible that" in with them. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:33, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' I can see how we wouldn't want to let this get out of hand, but we're fighting a problem we don't even have. If people were going to randomly and falsely claim to be email authors, I think they'd already be doing it. Plus, we're not talking about accepting ''all'' such claims; we're only concerned here with ''this'' case (and if the Supreme Court of the United States can make a ruling while at the same time declaring that it ''doesn't'' set precedent, so can we). Lastly, I think TK genuinely believes to be in contact with ''the'' fhqwhgads, and that should carry some weight. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:54, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Thank you. And I assure everyone here: neither I nor any of my comrades (including Fwh) is anywhere near crazy. ^_^ In fact, I really hate nonevident and irrational claims, and I most certainly would not want the wiki to be flooded with them! But I seriously know THE Fhqwhgads -TK
*Well I genuinly think that I'm in contact with people who can't get my point. It could be true yes but he can't prove it so it shouldn't go up in any way shape or form. No different than any other fun fact that needs proof to be accepted. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline-erson''' Is it not possible that this potential AIM'er could be a fake, just claiming to be Fwh but not him truely? And, if it was the true Fwh, than wouldnt it make sence that his AIM name (IamFHQWHGADS142) wouldnt have numbers at the end, as the real Fwh would probably be the first person to make such a name and wouldnt require the numbers at the end of it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 12:45, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's NOT the Fun Fact in question. You're thinking of "Not expecting." This is different! Plus lemee just clarify this: in order to fully understand the esscense of THIS fact, you gotta forget it even HAD a predescessor (and all the information included in that one.)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Well than, how did you get that information and those quotes? By talking to a person on AIM. How do you know that person was the real Fwh? You dont! Still '''Decline'''. --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:27, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' The person COULD have just wanted numbers in his screename. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 20:21, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Exactly! You tryin to say I should just be TakuaKaita? A little insulting. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]]
**'''Comment.''' The real Fwh would not have made an AIM name before writing the e-mail because it was random banging on the keyboard. Only once the e-mail had become famous would s/he have made that name. By that time, someone else likely took the AIM name first, forcing the real Fwh to add numbers.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Both versions hinge upon a quote from the purported foogoograss. The quote is impossible to verify. As a result, both fact and theory should be rejected. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:41, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[date]]===
====Ren & Stimpy XR====
The logo for the Extra Real Dating Sim XR is based on the logo for the Nickelodeon cartoon "Ren & Stimpy".

*'''Decline.''' Close, but no cigar. It doesn't even use the Ren & Stimpy font. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:24, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Weak Second.''' Hmmm... but I don't really see how this would be a fun fact... [[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:28, 8 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''decline.exe''' Seriously, if this was any more of a stretch, it could reach Mars. ... Yeah, that was bad. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:44, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DOUBLE DECLINE!!!''' Along with "seconding" with the above, I was a die-hard Ren & Stimpy fan when they still showed it, and I don't remember anything vaguely remotely relating to the sim. Even if there was, it's more of a stretch than Silly Putty . [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
**'''Second!''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 18:21, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[the show]] ===
====Homestar's "Arms"====
Unless Homestar is holding the microphone under his armpit when he is reciting his list, this is another one of those times when it's questionable as to how many invisible arms he has: he holds the microphone in one hand, his cards in the other, and flips them over each other all at the same time.
*'''Comment.''' I stuffed this because it's very much in question whether Homestar has invisible "arms" or some other way to "hold" objects. Opinions? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 14:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Decline.''' Because it wasn't clear in my previous comment. Anyway, I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. He doesn't have any arm holes in his shirt and the other characters call him armless. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 12:56, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' You could add this fact to any toon or email which features Homestar manipulating an object. Hopefully, we won't. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Accept.''' In how many other toons does homestar appear to be handling more objects than could be reasonably handled using two arms? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 15:52, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**[[time capsule]] is another example. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:55, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Hmm....even so, it's one of those things that's not very obvious. If it happened all the time, that'd be one thing, but if it doesn't happen that often, I think it's worth noting.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:02, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline!''' "Another one of those times"? For shame! --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:59, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.'''--[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:54, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Dear Strong Bad, how do you type with boxing gloves on? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' This is one of the best Fun Facts I've seen (I'm talking about the original Fun Fact, not that boxing gloves mention). Half glitch, half major insight into the Homestar universe. Definitely a keeper.
**Sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**'''Second.''' -- One of the better ones for sure! [[User:smoothmedia|smoothmedia]]
*'''F--''' Does everything in the Homstarrunner.com world make perfect sense? Heck no at all. I think the fact that his arms are invisible in the first place is pretty weird. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:57, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Dcline''' I don't think Homestar has invisible arms. It just... floats. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:14, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I'm thinkin' Homestar's like VeggieTales. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 21:23, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Aren't fun facts supposed to be fun? This is... just silly. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:37, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise, move''' This seems like it is worth pointing out about Homestar, but if this really a common occurence(I never really thought of it before, does Marzipan ever do this?) that it should be mentioned on his character page. The reason I think this falls under fun facts is that it's unexpected and hard to notice as a result. It's easy to assume when you see Homestar holding something without hands that he essentially has invisible arms. Occurences like this supplant that notion. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:21, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Based on what people are saying, it sounds like it's not a common occurence. Only in two episodes (to my knowledge) has this been an issue: this one and [[time capsule]]. It wasn't obvious to me on watching either episode, and I'm glad someone is pointing this out!--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 16:44, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Buleeted''' May I remind you? Is marsipan a broom? Yo strongbad, How do you type with boxing gloves on? Where is Pom pom's mouth? You are one of these people now. Muhahahaha. [[user:OWIE!|OWIE!]]
**'''Second.''' Too technical. But people, please stop picking on him. You're being a little harsh. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 16:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' We SHOULD mention on Marzipan's character page that she looks like a broom, and on Strong Bad's page that he types with boxing gloves on, and on Homestar's page that he has no arms, etc. Just because these are issues/questions that TBC refuses to explain (yet), doesn't make issues like Homestar's strange arm-mechanics unworthy of mention. The proposed fun fact is centrally relevant to one of the main mysteries on the site. It also sheds new light on the issue by refuting a common interpretation (that Homestar has two invisible arms). It's less similar to "Strong Bad typing with boxing gloves on" as it is to "Strong bad typing with boxing gloves on and without touching the keyboard". It adds a new layer to an age-old Homestar Runner question. - Dingell
*Homestar has no arms, invisible or other wise. He simply manipulates objects. Nobody knows how, because thats the joke. Trying to apply logic to it only ruins the fun.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Accept'''- it seems that this is reasonable. [[User:computerdude33|computerdude33]]
**'''Accept''' When I see Homestar, I presume that if he has ANY "Invisible Arms", He would have two. --[[User:Bonk|Bonk]] 20:21, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline.''' Donny, I couldn't have said it any better. High-ball! --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:52, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[suntan]] ===
====Marzipan's Parasol====
Marzipan is carrying a toothpick parasol one would normally receive with a tropical drink, only hers seems to be much larger than normal. Except that tropical drink parasols are modelled after real parasols . . . which are, you know, real . . .

''After a week of unanimous declines, this Fun Fact has been closed. The votes for this fun fact can be seen at the [[Talk:suntan|talk page]] of suntan.

=== [[local news]] ===
====Scalawag====
"Scalawag" may possibly be a reference to a Calvin and Hobbes strip in which Calvin and Hobbes sing the "Very Sorry Song" :
:(Calvin) "I'm sorry, so sorry I took your precious flaaaaag"
:(Hobbes) "Just don't do it again you scurvy scalawaaaaaag"

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:local news]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[brianrietta]] ===
==== "Tough Guys"? ====
This is the only reference to homosexuality in the entire site, '''and thankfully Strong Bad handled it more maturely than most "tough guys" would have.'''
*'''Revise''': This is an interesting fact, but I think that the part in bold is a bit unecessary. After all, this is a knowledge base, not a place for rants. If you wanted to put something like this, I suggest doing it in the forum. Besides, this is easily infered from reading the transcript. I think that the part in bold needs to be deleted, and the rest added back into the Fun Facts. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Comment.''' I assume this is an '''Accept'''. Please sign your vote! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment.''' This is hardly a rant. I don't think the statement loses anything by removing the "offending" clause, however. I ''would'' change "this is the only reference" to "this is one of the few references". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
**'''Comment.''' But this ''is'' the only reference to homosexuality on the site. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 12:50, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' It's ''currently'' the only reference on the site. For all we know, the entire cast will be outed tomorrow and it will become the ''first'' reference among many. The guidelines for this section says that facts that become easily dated are bad facts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
**'''Comment.''' In fact, I just convinced myself that it should say "This is the first reference" -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment:'''I'm just saying that it seems like a rant to me, and it's rather unecessary (The part in bold, that is). --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**'''Comment.''' A rant against who? Tough Guys? The comment says that SB handles the situation "maturely". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*<strike>'''Accept.''' I think it's fine the way it is.</strike> '''Decline.''' Changed my mind, the point that it's the only reference to homosexuality on H*R is debatable and may possibly change, so the fact doesn't have much of a point to it. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 13:10, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The ONLY reference? What about in the new [[HomestarTalker|Homestar Talker]]? "Pom-Pom and Strong Bad Are Totally Going Out!" We know Strong Bad is a guy, and Pom-Pom is called '''"he"''' many times throughout the site. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
**'''Response''' Maybe "going out" just means they're going someplace together, like to a movie or something. It's possible for guys to do stuff together without it being "gay." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Wow... so many comments, but very few people willing to actually vote. This item is trying to point out something that is intended as a joke, and as such, it shouldn't need to be explained or have undue attention drawn to it. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:06, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:08, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Comment''' Heh-heh. Sorry about that remark. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Accept with Revisions''' This is a time in history where many homosexuals are being recongnised. Though this, admittedly, isn't the ONLY reference, we should still note it was handled maturely. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline''' If he had handled it any other way than maturely, TBC would have been called homophobes. Doesn't matter though, I can't think of a reason why it would be important to point out a gay reference just as I can't see why it would be important to point out all the swears that have been used. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Revise.''' A notable fact. While not in any way offensive, the second half of the sentence is unnecessary. Revise to say "This is the first reference to homosexuality in the H*R universe." Let Strong Bad's maturity speak for itself. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Twond''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second'''. And am I the only one to think "''[[Wikipedia:Bad Dudes|Bad Dudes]]''" when hearing this? "The Cheat has been kidnapped by fhqwhgads. Are you a tough enough guy to save The Cheat?" --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:29, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Not really. But the part about it being the only reference to homosexuality might be OK.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 15:39, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Revise and Accept-erson''' As a queer myself, I feel that the last section is totally acceptable. As a tough guy, Strong Bad would have been expected to respond with aggression, rudness, etc... as other "tough guys" I know have. However, he acted out of what was expected of him, and I think that makes it interesting and acceptable. Just change "only" to "first" and you're good to go.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 12:55, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Second.''' P.S. I'm so proud of SB for handling it maturely!!! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Decline.''' If, for some reason, an handicapped character was introduced in a cartoon(perhaps a character without arms?), would it be a fun fact to say, "this is the first time a handicapped character has appeared"? As Bob Marley says, "until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes..."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Severe Decline''' (a) It's not the only reference to homosexuality on the site, as noted above. (b) Saying that Strong Bad handled it "maturely" is an opinion... people in general do sometimes tend to be offended when their names are contorted into names of the opposite gender. (c) Fun Facts should be objective; it's not a place to judge the characters' morality, so the word "thankfully" has no place here... though I do agree with your moral evaluation in this case. - Dingell

===[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
====Hom Sar Ref====
On the third page, the line "GEE-AMES!" is actually a reference to the Homsar Main Page, when the mouse is moved over the "Games" bubble. --[[User:SgtKeeling|SgtKeeling]]

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:00, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Trial Game origin====

The trial game is based upon the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]] - the trial game's [http://www.homestarrunner.com/SevenSecondTrialGame.swf Flash file] contains graphics and sounds used on the Games menu but not in the trial game.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====False Advertising====

The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This parodies how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- tomstiff 14:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Special Appearance====
Mr. Shmallow can just barely be seen in the fourth screen of the 'toon.

''After a week of unanimous declines, this fun fact has been rejected. You can see the votes at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].

====Whats Her Face's lack of appearance====

For whatever reason, Whats her face was shown on the 4th page, but not at all in the "trial" TGS cartoon.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:54, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Basement-to-Computer Room Ratio====

According to the "Trap Door" clip, the computer room and the basement are two different floors, even though Strong Bad is never seen going up stairs when he goes from the couch to the computer room in cartoons like [[morning routine]].

'''Verdict:''' After over two weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:22, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Tall homestar?====
In that clip on the second page, Strong Bad says the trap is a 2-foot trap. When homestar falls, about 3/4 of his body is still above the floor. He must be about 8-9 feet!

*'''Infinite Decline.''' Unimportant. And besides, how do YOU know that 3/4 of Homestar's body is there? [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' It didn't look that way to me; in any case, made-up measurements are bleh. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 14:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Homestar's two feet fell into the trap. Therefore, it's a "two-foot trap."--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:44, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Two-foot second''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Accept.''' It's rare to get even a rough indication of the characters' sizes. I wonder if this is consistent with the dimensions of Strong Sad in 'The Facts' - Dingell
*'''Del Taco''' Wasn't he stopped by Strong Mad's head? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 09:45, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Oh, yeah. Forgot about that, didn't you, whoever posted this fun fact? Hey, Dingell, might wanna change your vote there. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:42, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad didn't take a measurement of the pit, he never had any prior knowledge of how deep it was: he expected it to be a bottomless pit, and in his exasperation at The Cheat's failure to install such, he just randomly picked two feet as a way to say it was far too shallow. By your logic, if he said one foot, Homestar would only be a foot into the pit, and if he said three feet, then Homestar would have three feet of his legs in it, and Strong Bad could have verily used either to express his lack of satisfaction. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 19:29, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
***'''Third!'''-[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:15, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*SB was exsagerateing

====Updated for the 90's====
Teen Girl Squad couldn't have been updated for the nineties, the SB E-mail it premiered in first showed in 2002.

*'''Decline''' - This was just a joke. Seriously. I think TBC know when they started TGS. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who forgot to login]] 5:30 PM, 5 Apr 2005 (EST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05 Apr 2005
*'''Comment''' But hey, did you know there were only 127 Strong Bad E-mails up when this toon was made? I think TBC know how many SBemails they've made. -- [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' Um...tell me what that has to do with me, please? -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar, who remembered to login today.]] 5:00 PM, 6 Apr 2005 (EST)
*I'm saying theres another fact above thats just like this one and is being accepted but is equally worthless. Wasn't meant to be personal, sorry. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Comment''' Oh, well, sorry for over-reacting, then. -- [[User:Homestar Runnar|Homestar Runnar]] 8:12 PM, 7 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline,''' and the fun fact in reference is worth something, unlike this, which is crap. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:49, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second''' --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:24, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' But "crap" is a little harsh. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:40, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Duh.''' Did you even understand this e-mail? [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]

===[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]===
====Sweating====
Mr. Shmallow sweating is a reference to old television sets where the lights required to light up the set often made the set uncomfortably hot.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Mr. Shmallow (toon)]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:51, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[long pants]]===
====X-Pensive Winos====
The text "X-PENSIVE W..." appearing on Strong Bad's 'light pen' before he shakes it up may be a reference to Rolling Stones guitarist [[Wikipedia:Keith Richards|Keith Richards']] solo band the X-Pensive Winos.

*'''Decline.''' Stretchy "might be" reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Decline.''' The W is for "white". Could be a refence, but could just as easily not be. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' But we all know that the W stands for "witches' brew." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:41, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' Interesting, but it's a bit of a stretch. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 14:51, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:09, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''X-Pensive Decline.''' Since it is white-out, W for White makes the most sense. And substituting letter sounds for words or word parts is a common practice in product branding... X-tra this, E-Z that, etc. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:38, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Rodeo Hot Dogs====
"Rodeo Hot dogs" is a reference to the old Oscar Meyer mascot.

*'''Decline.''' It's not "Rodeo Hot Dogs", it's "Rodeo and Tragic Clown Hot Dogs" - meaning the word "rodeo" modifies "clown" not "hot dogs" (in other words, It's a reference to rodeo clowns). Even so, this is a huge stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' There is no stretch as there is no basis in fact for this...fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Just read the [http://www.kraftfoods.com/om/bn/c_News/news_History1.htm Oscar Meyer company history] looking for a shred of eveidence. I could have missed it, but the article didn't mention a mascot, just the weinermobile. Let's have some evidence before asserting something as a fact! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*'''decline''' I think you mean the twinkie mascot -smooth criminal
*'''Decline on two fronts.'''' I doubt the Oscar MAYER mascot is a reference, and I doubt Twinkie The Kid is either (he's just a yellow sponge cake cowboy). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:01, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*A link would have been nice. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:09, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Edga Jr. removes text?====
Strong Bad opens up [[Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Homestar Over Correction Fluid====
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*'''Weak Accept, but Move''' Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:21, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Secone."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 04:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 20:06, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' I agree with Donnny and at is why I '''Accept.''' Why is that a reason not to accept? The standard should be that it be something amusing or interesting which someone might not notice without reading this WIKI. Why else does this WIKI exsist? [[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''accept''' When Homestar's mad, anything can happen!--[[User:mk5due|mk5dude]] 1 April 2005
*'''Decline''' My guess is that he didn't go inside the Lappy screen, but in front of it.--[[User:Bonk|Bonk]] 17:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Then how did become pixalated? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:53, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homestar entering the Lappy's screen defies the laws of physics as is. It isn't much of a stretch from there to have him appear overtop of the correction fluid. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline the Declines (AKA accept)''' This is very interesting, and I didn't even notice it until i read this. I don't understand why it was stuffed or why everyone seems to hate it so much. I think it's GOLD! [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 16:57, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' AGAIN, being clever is far from a prerequisite for a fun fact. Although honestly I'm not seeing what's so "GOLD" about it... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:07, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Bedroom Window====
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Revise = Very Yes. Run-on sentences hurt my brain. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:42, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**It wasn't a run-on, but I still Decline. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:08, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**It totally was. It should have been broken into two sentences; somewhere between "Presents" and "but".
**'''Revise, accept''' It is a run-on scentence. Try:
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. However, in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere even though it should be in the shot.
*'''Decline''' He could just be laying at the other end of the bed, thus the room would be flipped. Gah, most of the "goofs" posted aren't even genuine and this is no exception. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This is not fun! Also, a run-on sentence needs to lack a conjunction or semicolon to be a run-on sentence, ***LACK*** an example would be this one I'm typing now. --[[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 18:44, 4 Apr 2005 (CET)
**Totally untrue. Run-on sentences can have conjunctions; haven't you ever seen someone overuse the word "and?" Example: I went to the store and I bought some candy and then I went home and then I watched TV. There are conjunctions there, but it's still run-on. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:34, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***The sentance is fine, it just uses commas in the wrong place. Still doesn't make this a good fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Seems interesting enough... and before the grammar police take over the world, it should be noted that you can't start a sentence with "however". -Dingell
*'''DECLINE, and I have proof.''' [[HR:xmas04.html|Watch the toon.]] When we first see Homestar in bed, we ''can't see the window.'' After he sits up, the camera moves, and ''lo and behold'' there the window is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Now, are we going to argue about Homestar Runner, or are we going to argue about grammar? ...Grammar!
***The original fact is not a run-on sentence. From ''The American Heritage Dictionary:'' A run-on sentence is "a sentence in which two or more independent clauses are not properly joined by a semicolon or conjunction." (This is backed up by other dictionaries.) The original fact has a conjunction (namely, ''but''), which properly joins the clauses. Therefore, although the sentence may be too wordy for some people, grammatically it's a good sentence.
***Technically, beginning a sentence with ''however'' is not wrong either. But it ''is'' poor style. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Breaking the Lappy====
Strong Bad indicates that The Cheat has a history of breaking the Lappy. Perhaps The Cheat demonstrated this tendency with the Compy 386 as well. This may explain why the Compy apparently bore a grudge against The Cheat, as demonstrated in [[couch patch]].
*'''Decline.''' First, this is really a stretch. Second, The Cheat didn't break the Lappy—Strong Bad was making that up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:03, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second.''' The Cheat doesn't break the Lappy, Strong Bad just blames him for his own problems. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I've carefully set aside the time for '''declining''' this fun fact. Strong Bad is obviously using the Cheat as a scapegoat here. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:50, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.'''[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:51, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite, then accept.''' You have a good foundation, but you rambled a little bit. I would just cut it to the fact that SB said "broke the lappy again," intending that the Cheat maay have broken it before.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 18:08, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Main Page 6]]===
====Outta Sync?====
Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

*'''Decline''' If the movements of Strong Bad's mouth are out of sync, why dontcha look at the .swf version and turn down the quality? But, why should it matter? --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 20:19, 26 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' Although it's the words and not the mouth, anyone going to the site will notice this.
*'''Revise and Accept.''' It isn't that his mouth is out of sync with the animation—rather, the words weren't animated at all. The only reason his mouth moves is due to the surprise of his falling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:19, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The problem is that he says "Holy Crap!" just before falling, which completely takes away the comedic timing of an otherwise hilarious gag.
**'''Second''' Did it use to work? Because I think it was fine a long time ago, but not anymore. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 08:50, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It DOES screw with the timing of the joke. Mouth movements aren't the issue here. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[techno]]===
Strong Bad might have said "Oh very clever" after reading the name Silent J because it could be a reference to Jay and Silent Bob, a pair of recurring characters from [[Wikipedia:Kevin Smith|Kevin Smith's]] movies. It also may be clever because it's referring to the concept of a silent letter (for example, one would say "the word 'jalapeno' has a silent J"), and making reference to Silent Bob at the same time.

*'''Decline.''' I think the Silent Bob connection is a real stretch. The silent letter connection is much more reasonable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
*'''Revise.''' Funny, I think it's the other way around. It never occurred to me that "Silent J" would be anything but a play on "Jay and Silent Bob," but maybe that's my pop-culture-saturated brain. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 10:01, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The latter part doesn't work but the Silent Bob connection does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:42, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' The 'Jay and Silent Bob' part is right on. The 'Jalepeño' part is wrong.[[User:Theving|Theving]]
**'''Comment.''' My brain is pretty saturated with pop-culture, too! However, it's from a time when Disco ruled and dinosaurs walked the earth! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 25 Mar 2005
**'''Second''' Jalepeño is the stretch; Silent Bob is the obviously correct one. And I haven't even watched J&SB! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:52, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I had thought he meant the fact that "Silent J" would mean he shouldn't actually say anything at all, so he was sort of duped, and he was mockingly calling him clever. I don't know. [[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 22:48, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm...no.Thats more of a stretch than the "jalepeno" part of the fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
** I think this is what is meant as well. After reading an e-mail, Strong Bad almost always starts his response with "Well, [insert name]", or "......, eh [insert name]?" Since the writer is calling himself Silent J, Strong Bad is at a loss to use his name in his reply.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:38, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' FWIW, "jalapeño" does not in fact have a silent J. The j is pronounced like an h, but it's certainly not silent. - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:25, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' - but the only revision this needs is to remove the uncertainty, because it's clearly a reference to Jay and Silent Bob.
*'''Second''' - I immediately thought of Jay and Silent Bob. -[[User: Miss Free Country USA| Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept''' - I think the person who posted this fact was right. Whenever I see the name Silent J, it makes me think of Jay and Silent Bob, and I think TBC were also thinking of that. -[[User: Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*it is a reference to Jay and Silent Bob.

===[[the bet]]===
====Forgotten Lie====
Strong bad says in the King of Town DVD that the King does not live in a castle. However, in this email he seems to have forgotten all about it.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad does things like this frequently, and it's not the first time he's lied about something, i.e. The Cheat not having a computer in [[huttah!]] -Walking Armless
*'''Rewrite and accept.''' The idea's there, but it's a little wordy. Cut it down maybe to something like "Strong Bad said in the DVD that he didn't have a castle, but aspparently he does here."[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:06, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[That A Ghost]]===
====Sickly Sam's lucky day====
This is the only old-timey toon so far that does not have Sickly Sam "dying".
*'''Neutral''' I guess this is fine, but i need to watch the old-timey cartoons to make sure that he has appeared in at least three to make sure that he hasnt just died in one and lived in another. This an all right fact, i think. What about the rest of you? --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:01, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Has Sickly Sam died in anything other than Parsnips a Plenty?
*'''Decline''' I think that any fun fact with the phrase "so far" or the like should be rejected automatically. Besides, didn't he not die in the kick the can cartoons? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment''' Sickly Sam was never in [[Kick the Can]]. Oh, and Sickly Sam did "die" in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]] (easter egg). He also fell of the I-beam in [[Ballad of The Sneak]] (if that counts). --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:39, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' "Fun" facts that can become easily dated are "bad" facts. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:17, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Accept''' I've watched all the cartoons that Sickly Sam is in, and That a Ghost seems to be the only one where he doesn't die (even though all the characters were skinned alive, none of them seemed to be "dead"). I would have to agree with Donny, but I'll just say to take out "so far", and delete this fact if he survives in another old-timey toon. However, I guess this fact's fate is up to the rest of the voting public, too. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Ummm, my basis for declining this fact was that it could be easily become false. Removing "so far" from it doesn't change that. Also, the fact relies on Sickly Sam being in every old timey cartoon for it to work. He isn't in kick the can so he doesn't die there (even if it is by a technicallity). The fun fact just doesn't work. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Rewrite''' How about "This is Sickly Sam's first appearance where he does not 'die'." --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:15, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline Slightly''' We can all see Sickly Sam ATTEMPTED to kill himself by burying himself alive on a Tuesday. -Walking Armless
**1936 Bubs was buried alive too, but he seemed to be OK. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:31, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I disagree that anything noted as "so far" is bad (though "this is the first time" is usually more appropriate.) However, this fact isn't totally true as stated, so '''Rewrite and accept''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Cory====
The painting marked "Cory" is most likely a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]].
*'''BACLINED! Wait, no...''' OR it could be a reference to [[cheat talk]]. OR it could just be some randomly chosen name. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:43, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Well, Cory from [[cheat talk]] was a real person, so TBC couldn't have come up with that. And cheat talk Cory is a city in the Homestarverse. Painting Cory and Camdidate Cory are people. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 12:54, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** So what if they didn't invent the name for cheat talk? The name still came up, so the "reference" is just as valid. And, as I said, there's the whole "randomly chosen name" scenario. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The answering machine could have been referring to a "Corey", or "Cori", not neccessarily "Cory".
*'''Most Likely Declined''' Your geekdar is overly sensitive, when was the last time you had an expert look at it? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[best thing]] ===
====Who is John Bozar?====
Bozar's huge cranium, love of bizarre magical pranks, and insulting manner of addressing the heroes of the show bears a strong resemblance to the antics of [[Wikipedia:Mr_Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]], a derby-wearing, fifth-dimensional imp and Superman antagonist who periodically appeared in Metropolis to pester the Last Son of Krypton with his reality-altering powers.

:He also bears a resemblance to [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from The Flintstones.

:He also resembles a megalomaniacal antagonist from the 90's show [[Wikipedia:Mighty Max|Mighty Max]] called [http://omegacron.com/mighty_max/enemies.htm Dr. Zygote], who had an oversized brain/head, alien-like features, and would construct elaborate schemes to rule/destroy humanity.

:He appears to be saying 'Muddle me twice' at the begining of his line, which is similar to Batman villain The Riddler's (in his various incarnations) catchphrase of 'riddle me this'.

:He may have been partly inspired by the similar alien character [[Wikipedia:Q_%28Star_Trek%29|Q]] from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who occasionally made an appearance, much to the annoyance of Captain Picard.

*Keep '''Mr. Mxyzptlk''' and '''The Great Gazoo'''. Scrap the rest. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:01, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I thought we'd already declined this TTATOT fact. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:50, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Albi refs Abdi?? ====
Strong calls the author of the email Albi, which is a reference to the author of the first email, [[some kinda robot]], who was named Abdi.

*'''Decline.''' Albi is short for Albin, not a reference to Abdi. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:55, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Yep. Yep. Yeap. Second.''' -Walking Armless
**'''Threecond.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*...urge to kill...rising... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Guitar throw refs [[invisibility]]?? ====
When Space Gary throws his guitar and says "I guess I won't be needing THIS anymore," it is a reference to [[invisibility]]. Strong Bad says the same thing when he gets rid of the broken [[Tandy 400]] and replaces it with the [[Compy 386]].

*'''Decline.''' Inflection is different, throwing is different than knocking off the desk, and the line isn't even the same ("And don't need THIS anymore"). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Go TheEggman!!''' Uh... I mean '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:56, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Oh please... are you surfing HR.com randomly looking for things to correlate? '''Decline!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:12, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== rrll == grrl ?? ====
The use of "rrll rrll" is probably the latest version of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]."

*'''Decline.''' The latest version, what? "rrll" is for "real", "grrl" is for "girl" - what's the relation, besides not using any vowels? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''¡Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:50, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:53, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Segundo.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 03:34, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*It's not even worth it to be sarcastic. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Rudiments ====
"rrll rrll" is a common short-hand notation for a [http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments/06longroll.html double-stroke roll], which is a percussion rudiment executed by playing two strokes on a single hand followed by two in the alternate hand and repeating.

*'''Decline''' This is more likely a variation of "[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=grrl grrl]." Also, percussion stickings are written exclusively in caps; I think this reference would be more believable if the line appeared as "RRLL RRLL" in the e-mail. [[User:Svelt|Svelt]] 23:20, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Living in Houston, I hear people pronouncing "real" as "rrll" about 2,568 times a day. I took this as a joke based on southern accents. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 04 Apr 2005
*'''Accept?''' I dunno, this struck me as kinda obvious at first, seeing how the entire e-mail deals with music... [[User:SP|SP]]

====guitar "Space Gary" tosses====
It's the same guitar shown in [[Puppet Time]], <s>which Puppet Homestar "borrows" from Puppet Strong Bad.</s> [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 22:14, 13 Mar 2005 (PST) [Edited as per suggestion below. [[User:Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] 19:14, 15 Mar 2005 (PST)]

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting (and debating), this item was narrowly Accepted. It appears in a slightly rewritten form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== A DV-what? ====
From the style of animation portrayed, the bizarre space setting, and the availability of VHS VCRs, the Limozeen cartoon pilot likely aired some time in the early-to-mid-1980's. However, Larry's mentioning of DVDs at the end of the episode suggests that it could not have aired before 1997, when DVDs first hit the American market, and likely aired even later when old television shows started being sold on DVD.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, the consensus was to Rewrite this item. It appears in its Accepted form on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
The dialog at the end of the cartoon about Limozeen (who are parody of 80's Hair Metal Bands) being kicked off the charts by an Alternative band that has a girl as a bassist, etc. is most likely a reference to the fact that by the early 1990's people were tired of the excesses of Hair Metal bands and the popularity of that genre was already on the wane. Alternative Rock bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer (SP had 2 female bassists, Weezer's lead singer wears glasses) which were generally considered by many music critics to be smarter, hipper and closer to the roots of what rock is all about, put the nail in the coffin of the L.A. Glam Metal scene.
*'''Revise.''' A little too much info, like previously STUFF'd fact. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:02, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' a bit too wordy... perhaps condense this info by taking out the social commentary (basically everything after 'by the early 1990's) and just stick to facts like 'Smashing Pumpkins had 2 female bassists' --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 08:55, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise!''' English, please? --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 08:24, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second (though leaning towards decline)''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Anyone who understands the joke about Limozeen being a hair metal band probably is already aware of the Alternative takeover of the early 90s. This item is simply explaining the joke - which, IMO, was a weak one to begin with. Any of the above revisions make this item even more obvious. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 09:16, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== The Claw ====
One villain has a claw that is the same as the one from the ''Kick the Cheat Demo''.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears on the [[best thing]] page. Discussion moved to [[talk:best thing]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:13, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Background Goof ====
When the Limozeen spaceship is flying throughout space, the background obviously loops; however, it does not tile well at all, with noticeable seams flying by every second.

*'''Comment:''' I was going to put it in there, but I wasn't really sure how well it'd go over; chances are this is some minor joke or something that I'm not getting. Soo... is it a Goof or not? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:29, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite and Move, then Accept''' Maybe you could move it to real-world references, because old Hanna-Barberra (or whatever) cartoons obviously looped too. Though the noticible seam thing is worth thinking about. Hmmm... I think it should be used as a reference to cartoons like The Flinstones. But I'm rambling. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:07, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Absolutely not!''' References to "This that and the other thing" are totally useless and encourage people to add to it, making it MORE useless. Maybe an Explanation or Remark, but not a Reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite.''' This is a decent reference to the common practice of looping backgrounds in cartoons, and the Fun Fact should reflect that. This item should be split into two parts - one regarding the looping and the other regarding the noticeable seams. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:14, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' You have the clear backbone for a Fun Fact, but it needs severe rewording and needs to be a little less derogatory. (sp?)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:31, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's not a Goof, because it was on purpose. I'd call it an Explanation. Don't mention a specific cartoon, as it fits the whole genre. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:32, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Babylon 5 ====
"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a combined reference to [[Wikipedia:Encounter_at_Farpoint|Encounter at Farpoint]] (the first episode of [[Wikipedia:Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]) '''and the popular science-fiction show [[Wikipedia:Babylon_5|Babylon 5]].''' (only the part in bold is in question)

*'''Accept:''' Babylon 5 is similar enough to Groupulon 5, and it's the same genre as both Star Trek and the email itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' It's my opinion that for the reason above the Babylon reference is much stronger than the Star Trek reference. If the B5 ref is a stretch it seems to me that the ST ref is equally stretchy. [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:51, 20 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline:''' it seems too much of a stretch to me. personally i think it's just a generic sci-fi sounding name that they came up with.[[User:Keab42|Keab42]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 18:25, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Third''' Changing my vote from straight Accept, only because I noticed that it was the B5 reference that was in question. The ST:TNG reference is still solid, being that they're both the pilot/first episodes of T.V. shows that take place in outer space. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:14, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[colonization]] ===
==== Until next week... ====
This is the last email in which Strong Bad says "so until next week", a regular closing line for early emails.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:colonization]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[dragon]] ===
==== Trodgor was a Motorhead ====
The main riff to Trogdor's theme song appears to be very similar to the one from the Motorhead song "Shoot You In The Back".

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:18, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[rock opera]] ===
==== Definitely Maybe? Yes? No! ====
"Definitely baby" (The line ended by Vector Strong Bad) is a reference to the album Definitely Maybe by Oasis

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 16:36, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Sender's parents ====
Second time Strong Bad talked about both the sender's parents. This was last done in [[animal]] about Spud Jr.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Rose-face/Rosebud ====
When Strong Bad yells "Rose face!" it could be a possible reference to ''[[IMDb:tt0033467|Citizen Kane]]'' and the famous "Rosebud."

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Pizza Pizzazz ====
The appearance of a spinning pizza during the word "Pizzaz" may be a reference to the Pizzaz Pizza Oven, which rotates the pizza under a heating element to cook it.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Order? ====
Each quote is truly taken from each email, in order. The first word is from [[some kinda robot]], the second from [[homsar]], and so forth.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after two weeks of voting. It was also agreed that this item was incorrectly and prematurely STUFF'd (the user who placed it here did not check all facts before putting it up for debate). The item has been added back to the [[rock opera]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:18, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Another brick in the wall ====
At the end of the opera, the cast is on a stage, where the bottom of the stage is a white bricked wall with blue brick outlines. This might be a refrence to the popular rock opera The Wall, by Pink Floyd, as the wall in the Floyd's opera is the same. [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)

*'''Decline.''' Good thinking, but this is definitely not a reference. This isn't the first time this stage has been shown (See [[A Decemberween Pageant]]) →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 16:29, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
**I just watched ADP, and the part of the stage in question is not visible. Perhaps I should look in the email where the stage appears (I don't remember the name right now). [[User:MajorB|MajorB]] 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
***In the very first scene after marzipan says "Homestar, I don't think those are your lines." That's when they show the whole stage.
**** Hmmm...how did I miss that? [[User:24.58.44.43|24.58.44.43]] 19:05, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Just because it's already shown doesn't mean it's not a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:17, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Where's The Cheat?]] ===
In the beginning of the toon when Homestar is spreading the marshmallow spread on the veggie burger, the spread changes everytime he spreads it. Thought it was an interesting detail.

'''''Note:''' this submission created the section on STUFF, but named it incorrectly as "[[Where The Cheat Is At?]]". This is referenced at least once in the votes below.''

*'''Decline and also, who cares?!''' And sometimes Homestar's shirt is a lighter shade of blah blah blah. Fun facts are meant to be FUN, okay? You didn't even get the name of the cartoon right! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' - yeah, it's a nice detail, but not really all that worth mentioning; too minor. (And Donny, nothing personal, but that was pretty harsh, man. Might want to tone down before we hurt someone's feelings...) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:02, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'd''' →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 13:58, 22 Feb 2005 (MST)
** I'll tone you down my lord! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Comment'''Just to give you a head's up, Donny, those were the ''rudest'' words I have ever heard. Realize that this is a cartoon, ''' '' PLEASE '' '''. If you ever spoke like that in the real world, you would get your butt kicked.
***'''Comment''' Uh-huhhhh...1) Sign your post. 2) Scroll up. People are saying far ruder things than I did, including the person who told me to "tone it down". 3) I was blunt not rude, boo hoo. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****To be frank, what I said didn't really seem rude to me. I'm not particularly sure how you can say that my politely asking you to tone down is far ruder than coming up to somebody's face and practically calling them an idiot. (Unless you mean something completely unrelated?...) Also, being ''harsh'' to somebody's face like that IS generally a rude thing. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 09:41, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
**** To be frank, I think that saying "Well this is a stupid fun fact" and then proceeding to rip apart the contributor with a SB quote is pretty rude. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''EXTREME DECLINE!!!''' This is a pathetic fun fact. That's all there is to it.--[[User:24.159.113.2|24.159.113.2]] 13:54, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I have no problem with this one. Remove the last sentence, and you're good to go. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:48, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Unadulterated Decline''' Come on, it's like you're not even trying. -Walking Armless
*'''The Klein.''' It's just a title effect. Besides, this doesn't give us any new information or insights. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:09, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== You killed Pom-Pom! ====
When storng bad said he killed pom-pom it may be a reference to south park and them "killing Kenny"

*'''Decline''' Uh...no. "Storng" Bad was just trying to scare Marzipan with a crank call. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:36, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Unmatchable Decline''' Spell right, blast ye! -Walking Armless
*'''Delcine.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*You may be a reference to the superfluousness of the Shift Key... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:15, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[secret recipes]]===
====Pamcakes and Pimecones====
Homestar's use of the word "pimecone" instead of "pinecone" is reminiscent of his usage of the word "pamcakes" instead of "pancakes" in [[montage]].
*'''Neutral.''' I don't really know about this one. It... kinda has merit... hm... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:55, 23 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Reasonable, I guess... --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:41, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:53, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Homestar pronouces 'n's as 'm's; he's always done this and he probably always will. ;[[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
**'''Comment''' This is not ''always'' true. There are many cases where he pronounces 'n'. I think this fact is worth mentioning, albeit not incredibly interesting. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 11:33, 3 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Comment''' If he always pronounced 'n's and 'm's, wouldn't he have said "pimecome"? Just saying... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:40, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Strong Decline''' Homestar has a speech impediment. He does pronounce 'n's as 'm's. This is amazingly obvious so it should not be a fun fact.
**He never pronounces "Marzipan" as "Marzipam". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:41, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' And Homestar also pronounces R's as W's, but we're not putting that one in the funfacts either, are we? [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:10, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' Almost everyone is saying that this is common. But really - other than "pimecone" and "pamcake", when has Homestar EVER switched Ms and Ns? I can't think of even one other time. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Accurate, but not notable. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:38, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move?''' Perhaps this would be worth noting in Homestar's character page?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 17:56, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' What, nobody can answer my question? Then this fact is very likely TRUE! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:31, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Bumdumbourge and Totalslava====
Bumdumbourg and Totalslava are obviously loose references to the countries Luxembourg and Bratslava.

*'''Decline.''' Bratslava isn't a country, nor is it even spelled right! The correct spelling is Bratislava, which is the capital of Slovakia. The only one who could even really be considered a reference is Bumdumborge, and even that's a stretch. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]
** '''Second''' The Luxembourg reference is TOO obvious, and the "Bratslavia" too wrong. The former Yugoslavia would work better, but it's still pretty obvious that SB was just making up country-like names off the top of his head (similar to Dortugal and Prance.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:23, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Yeah, but at least Dortugal and Prance ARE real country names, only with the first letter changed. These ones are just totally random, and not correlating to anything, so... '''Second'''. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:27, 15 Feb 2005 (MST)
*Maybe that's why he said it was an obvious reference. And, if anyone cares to know, someone revised this fact, so this STUFF really isn't necessary. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:27, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
**...and I wrote this one. But give me a break! I'm not from Europe, and I was wrong. Get off my back. Like I said, It's been changed. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Why the hell do you think nobody's commented on this since February 15? I know it was changed. We all know it was changed. Why do you think I STUFFed it in the first place? In a way it was to get it to be changed! Word to the wise, acekirby13, next time you try to post a fun fact, make sure it's as factual as possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll stand up in a court of HR Wiki law, but at least you won't be laid to ridicule as much as you were here. And if you're this sensitive to criticism, then don't post here at all. Nobody likes a crybaby! [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 08:22, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Calm down, Kerrek! Nobody likes a smartass either. [[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:23, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)
*****Maybe not, but he shouldn't have complained about my STUFFing his fact.[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 06:39, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
******Who's complaining? I simply stated why my fact was so dam wrong. Your face doesn't have to turn the color of the Reddest Raddish because of that. And, at least I admitted to such a terrible mistake. I'm sure that more than a couple of users haven't stood up and admitted to their STUFFed facts. ...anyway, its over and done, so lets drop it, or this could turn into a pretty bad flame war. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 18:12, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*******Whatever, bro. Just be careful what you post in the future, and don't threaten me again. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' SB's makin' 'em up on the fly. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:41, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' The voting on this one stopped about a month ago tomstiff, it has been changed. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:37, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I thought if a vote wasn't closed, then it was ... well ... open! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Woah. Isn't what brings this community together the laughter and enjoyment that homestar runner gives us? If you want to play the intellectual superiority game, why don't you go over to the MENSA wiki?--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:01, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Are you talkin' to ''me''? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:10, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.'''Nope, I was talking to Islayedthekerrek. No manners at all. Sorry for not making it clearer.--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Sorry tomstiff, I just want to forget this one, but the fact HAS been changed already, so if you really hate this one, then STUFF the new version. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:38, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I don't hate it ... at least not yet ... JOKE! I didn't realize it had been "closed" until after I voted. My point is ... if it's closed then why is it still open? To paraphrase a vote much further up the page ''It ain't closed until The Eggman closes it.'' And with that, let me re-unofficially close what had been unofficially closed. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Lol''' Thanks for making me look like a fool, man by quoting me. Naw, seriously, I was just angry at myself for making such a dumb fun fact. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 20:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''D'oh!''' I had no idea I was quoting ''you''. Any fool-making was purely accidental! Let's get this thing closed before more hilarity ensues! Yoo hoo! The Eggman! Over here! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:04, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Too Late!''' The hilarity be ensuing already! I was just kidding when I said you made me look like a fool, though... '_' -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 22:44, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''I'm here... and getting to it...''' I just did a huge number on the finished ones up through Best Thing the other night. I'll get from Rock Opera on in the next day or so - been busy with non-H*R stuff... (I know, I know, heaven forbid...) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 03:45, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]===
==== The Brethren ====
This is the first cartoon when the brothers Chaps refer to themselves as "Brethren" Chaps.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:The Best Decemberween Ever]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:21, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[Kick the Can]] ===
==== Coincedincem ====
According to Bubs' [[Yearbook Character Page]] picture, Bubs now owns the can in the cartoon... Or it's just a strange coincedincem.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk: Kick the Can]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[other days]] ===
==== Tappity Tappity ====
When Strong Bad dismisses the email's text to make room for his new text, as he does often, it makes the standard typing sound effects instead of the hard "enter" hitting sound.

* Although it was deleted as "not fun", I'm not too sure that it deserves it. Your opinions? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:03, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad often clears the screen by just typing more, analogous to a 'soft return' onto the next page. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:39, 6 Feb 2005 (PST)
*'''Decline.''' Who cares? Fun facts are supposed to be, well, FUN. They're not about picking out every insignifcant detail. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Yeah its a good fun fact? all ya'lls are too picky [[User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*'''Accept.''' Seems to me like a good fact. It's definitely a glitch if TBC usually use the 'enter' noise. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 17:20, 12 Feb 2005 (MST)
**You know Evin290, TBC mock fans who use logic like that (Homestar does NOT have a stupid uncle egg). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*** Are you taking a H*R line way too seriously in order to convince people not to take a H*R way too seriously...? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:58, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
**** '''Comment.''' I'm just saying that it's probably worth having because it's out of the norm. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline!''' On most of my computers I use, it's usually the SPACE BAR that sounds different, not the return/enter key. --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' On my computer, both sound different. Anyway, I think its good enough to be in there. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Decline''', If we acepted this than we'd have to accept all the other fun facts that mentioned a slight, often unimportant, difference. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment''' That's a good point. Too bad you didn't sign your post. [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**Did now --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Ok then. -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second.''' At best, this should be called a goof. However, people who enjoy reading goofs would probably scorn this level of pickiness (maybe. I don't care for what people call goofs here personally...)--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 21:15, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
***I've seen "Goofs" around here a LOT worse than this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept!''' Good enough for me. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 03:53, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Pizzle the Nizzle ====
The line "positate the negative" refers to the song Accentuate the Positive, by Johnny Mercer.

*'''Decline.''' Both the Johnny Mercer song and strongbad's line refer to evangelical preaching in general. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 08:41, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Evangelical preaching? Huh? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:51, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Actually, no. '''Decline.''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:18, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' I know I'm prolly in the minority here, but it's what ''I'' thought of when I heard the line for the first time. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:51, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[radio]] ===
====German Radio? ====
Old-timey Strong Bad's pronunciation of radio (rah-dio) is actually the German pronunciation of the word.

'''VERDICT:''' This fun fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:24, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish (ACCEPTED)====
Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted after several weeks of voting. It appears in this form on the page for [[radio]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:59, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Location====
Jugding by the name of the colledge radio station ([[WSBD]]) Free Country USA must be East of the Mississippi River. All radio stations to the east of the Mississippi have a 'W' in front of their name all those to the west have a 'K'.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====WSBD in Ohio====
There is a real news radio station transmitting from Cleveland, OH with the call letters WSBD. The Brothers Chaps most likely did not know about this, as SBD can easily stand for Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:radio]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:20, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[origins]]===
====Beverly Sportsinterviews====
Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to Lem Sportsinterviews, is a reference to Beverly Cleary, an author for children and young adults.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was Accepted. It appears in this form on the [[origins]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:00, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

====Cut the Crusts====
In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

*'''Decline.''' The tune is '''not''' the same as the Dokken song, and without the tune being the same this is too much of a stretch. -[[User:166.102.250.139|166.102.250.139]] 23:23, 20 Feb 2005 (EST)
*'''Accept, um, sorta''' In the Strong Bad Email [[Band Names]], Strong Bad suggests Dokken as a good band name, it's still kind of a stretch, but it's a possible reference.
*'''Accept''' Homestar very well may have been singing off-key.[[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Umm...''' Guys, this fact is still on the page...

====Señor & Mr.Bland====
Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.

*'''Decline.''' You have to remember that ths is from [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]'s point of view, and he has been known to not tell the truth. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Comment''' Why isn't anyone voting on this? Is there some sort of rule that says no one will vote on a fun fact unless it's at the top? Sorry if I'm being rude, but this has been here a long time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Um, cartoons do this all the time. The character runs around, the character dies in some clichéd way, said character comes back to life in little or no time at all. Are you, like, TV-deprived or something? You poor soul. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]]

===[[funny]]===
====409====
409 is a reference to Formula 409, a cleaner/degreaser by Clorox.

'''VERDICT:''' After several weeks of voting, this item was narrowly Accepted. Added to [[funny]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:04, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]===
====Poopsmith====
The Poopsmith never blinks.
*'''Decline''' Do I really need to say why? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
**'''Second''' Who cares if he never blinks? [[User:mk5dude|mk5dude]]
***'''Third''' I don't think ANY character in H*R blinks! -[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*'''Comment''' Actually Homestar blinks, ''quite'' frequently, I might add. [[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 22:16, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Okay, okay. MOST characters don't blink, unless I'm missing something giant here. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 08:54, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' If you're gonna put something about a character in a cartoon and not the cartoon itself, I strongly suggest putting it on [[The Poopsmith]] character page.

====Wall Markings====
According to the markings on the wall of the jail, the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week.

*'''Decline. ''' Fairly obvious to anyone watching the cartoon. Besides, the marks on the wall are common cliches in jail settings. Thats why they're there, to act as a visual gag NOT to tell us how long Strong Bad and a The Cheat have been there.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstff|tomstiff]] 21:27, 11 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''accept.''' Good fact... →[[User:j to the sag|j to the sag]]
*'''Accept.''' I never noticed. Maybe a slight rephrase is in order, however. Something like "If the marks on the wall are accurate, then the Cheat and Strong Bad have been in jail for about a week." - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:07, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Third''' - [[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
**'''Second'''-some Guest
*'''Rewrite and move.''' Just stick in the transcript how many tick marks are on the wall. Besides, those marks may have been made by the last inmate in the cell. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 13:19, 14 Feb 2005 (PST)
**"'Second!''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 15:33, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Makes sense to me. -Walking Armless

===[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]===
==== Fifty frickin' wings ====
The King's line "fifty frickin' wings" could be referring to Fricker's, a restaurant famous for their "frickin' chicken wings."
*'''Neutral''' I've never head of Fricker's. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 14:50, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Could've sworn I've seen this one submitted before...if not, theres still not much to go on with this one proof wise.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' It doesn't get any clearer than this.
*Is it in Georgia or thereabouts? If not it's probably not a reference. I'm not going to say accept or decline since I don't have an actual username. I used to but I forgot it.
*'''Accept''' I support this one because I do not think TBC would use the word "frickin'" to sound like a well known four-letter word in the english language. --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's "THE FRIGGIN CHEAT" in [[local news]]. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]] 12:35, 27 Jan 2005 (MST)
***This is true...but from what I was taught, frickin' is stronger than just friggin --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
**There's also "guy's like a frickin' house" in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Accept!''' However, i've only seen Frcikers in Ohio, but who knows...
*'''Revise''' A touch more information on Fricker's is needed, such as where the chain can be found. [[User:Eujensc|Eujensc]] 17:14, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because I doubt TBC has heard of Fricker's either. According to their website, they're only located in Ohio, save for two restaurants in Fort Wayne and Richmond (Indiana). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 07:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak accept.''' It's still possible, as TBC may have visited Ohio and/or Indiana once or twice. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:12, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I live in ATL, and could swear that I've seen that placr a couple times. --[[clashman]] 18:55,9 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]===
==== Buck Privates ====
The part where they say the same thing and laugh is a reference to the Abbot and Costello film ''Buck Privates''.

*'''Decline.''' I've never seen ''Buck Privates'' but unless there's a scene with Lou under a Heavy Lourde type weight and Bud under a sack of potatoes this sure seems like a stretch to me -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2004
**'''Second''' Indeed. There are more cartoons/movies where that happens. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:33, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]===
==== Starbucks ====
Double Double Whippless Mochaccino Half Caf is a Coffee drink from Starbucks. However, it is actually called a Venti Half-caf frapaccino w/o whipped cream (not all Starbucks serve this). Double Double refers to a coffee from Tim Hortons with two creams and two sugars.

*'''Decline.''' But wait. If the drink is actually called something else then it's *not* available. Da Bros are just making fun of Starbucks, not refering to a real drink. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
*'''Decline.''' Not only is this not the exact name of a Starbucks drink, the person who posted this fact also had the drink wrong; a Mochaccino is not the same as a Frappuccino or even a Mocha Frappuccino, and "double double" refers to the amount of espresso in the drink, not the size of the drink (so we don't know it's Venti).
**A "Double Double" refers to a coffie having 2 creams and 2 sugars. But still '''Decline'''.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 06:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Yes, if you're drinking regular coffee. A Mochaccino is an espresso-based drink. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 07:38, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Seriously, read what you just said... how can it be the same thing, if it's NOT the same thing? Yeesh. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I can't even follow the sentence. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline...''' They probably just took every coffee shop term that sounded good and blended them together. [[User:SP|SP]]

===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
====The Intercom====
The Intercom, who introduces the battle of the bands, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Saved by the Bell|Saved by the Bell]], where the character Screech creates a similar-looking robot friend.
*'''Decline.''' This seems like a real stretch. Sometimes an intercom is just an intercom. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:44, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' TBC [http://www.theinkhole.com/homestar2.htm watch SBTB]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:13, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' TBC may watch it. But I still think it's far fetched. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:40, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====Soofa Group?====
The page title "soopa group" is a stretch, but could possibly be a reference to SoofaGroup (http://www.freewebs.com/soofagroup/index.htm). At least that's the only thing that makes any remote sense, and it's doubtful that Soof took their name from this toon.
*'''Decline.''' Or it could just be a silly-slash-funny mis-spelling with no referrence to the real-world. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:30, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' It's most likley a play on the words "Super Group". --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:24, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
***'''Third'd''' I've heard, seen and read Soopa used as Super before. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:00, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' You should have stopped at "stretch" and just hit the back button. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:49, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Truk====
In the "Easter Egg" from the exclamation point at the end of episode 8, we see Tompkins wearing a shirt that says "Truk." Truk is the name of a Pacific atoll inhabited by Polynesian peoples. Truk was newsworthy in the 70's for the gang violence there.
*'''Decline.''' This reference is in no way relevant to TGS or H*R. It's explained in the transcript that "Truk" is a misspelling of "truck" as a caption to the poorly-drawn truck on Tompkins shirt. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08:52, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Third''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:37, 6 Apr 2005
*'''Dcln''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:50, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Phantom Drummer? (ACCEPTED)====
At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's Bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.

'''VERDICT:''' This item is Accepted by a score of 8-1; it is added to the Glitch section of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 10:18, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)

====Fender Guitars====
During Kissy Boots' first practice session, both What's Her Face and Cheerleader are playing basses, possibly Fender basses, judging from the arrangement of string keys.

*'''Rewrite.''' The [[Wikipedia:Machine_head|machine heads]] (tuning keys) on Cheerleader's guitar definitely suggest Fender, but Fender never made guitars with bodies in the Flying V shape -- that shape suggests Gibson (or possibly Epiphone, who make the first good knockoff). It does appear to be a four-string bass, since during the concert, Cheerleader plays (or pretends to play) a multinecked guitar with six machine heads per neck, so it's not just Strong Bad's artistic license. What's her face's guitar (which is, interestingly, left-handed) is much more likely to be a Fender. -- [[User:70.19.78.90|70.19.78.90]]
*Epiphone is owned by Gibson, numbnuts. Therefore, no knockoffs. It's the same guitar. - badamn_187
* badamn, sign your post correctly, or your vote doesn't count. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]]

====College Radio====
What's Her Face being labelled as "College Radio" is probably a reference to radio.

'''VERDICT:''' This item was Accepted. However, whatever user STUFF'd this item failed to remove it from the TGS8 page. It remains on the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]] page in this form. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:00, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[The Reddest Radish]]===
==== Back Buttons ====
The reason that this toon does not have a "Back" button is most likely because this cartoon appeared on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]], which integrated the cartoons into the menu itself.
*'''Decline''' ...unless you can find that this is the ONLY toon that does not have a "Back" button, or that this is the ONLY toon that doesn't have the "Back" button for this specific reason. Otherwise, this ought to go on the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu|Telebision Toons Menu]] page and not on the specific toon pages. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:51, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Dreamail doesn't have a back button either. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:15, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[island]] ===
==== Forward referencing # 1 ====

Homestar called Strong Bad [[Stinkoman]]. This is the name Strong Bad will use for his [[20X6]] counterpart in [[japanese cartoon]].

*'''Decline''' Its not the first time a character was created based on a throwaway gag (Homsar for instance).
*'''Accept''', since it's a fairly interesting point.
*'''Accept''' This has been confirmed by TBC as the original source of the name "Stinkoman". I think this is significant enough to note here as well as in "japanese cartoon". - [[User:tim333|tim333]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Modify, accept.''' Say that this is the first instance of the name Stinkoman. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**Second. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:03, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' - GOOD example of forward referencing. Much unlike that "Eh! Steve" one at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:34, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)
**The One '''Second... ''TO RULE THEM ALL!!!''''' [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 21:41, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Fairly obvious and already noted on the Stinkoman page. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Comment.''' I don't see any problem with two pages cross-referencing each other. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Accept.''' This is important enough to warrant an entry. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:23, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** 30 '''Second'''s before impact! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:58, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Forward Referencing #2 ====
The one thing Strong Bad described would happen on the island that was not illustrated was salting his foot.. which didn't take place until [[interview]].

*I would have to say '''Decline''' to both of those. [[The_Brothers_Chaps|TBC]] probably have just been reusing cool ideas. Not any relation to future.
**Second that.
**'''Second''' --[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 09:49, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I doubt that Strong Bad salting his foot was in anyway foreshadowing another e-mail. Especially if we don't know if they had recieved the interview e-mail at that point.
**'''Second''' Plus both of these are already on the pages for the japanese cartoon and island emails
**'''Second''', but you guys need to sign your votes or they don't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:06, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 31 Mar 2005
*'''Accept.''' Why not? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:24, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Seems perfectly reasonable to me. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''The Cline.''' This has nothing to do with it. Putting salt on his leg was just a reference to "I'd rather gnaw my own leg off.". [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 05:40, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[2 years]] ===
==== Mormon Missionary ====
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

'''VERDICT:''' After several months of voting, this item was Accepted. It has been added to the Trivia section of [[2 years]] and the discussion is archived on the [[talk:2 years]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:51, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ====
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strongbadia]].

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:2 years]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS====
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

*'''Neutral''' I doubt its a reference to any those, but for some reason, I don't want to decline it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:03, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak decline - needs severe rewrite''' This is actually a combination of several entries from that page that should have been combined in a single fact, so I did. The trouble is, there are way too many references noted here. The "roomier than it looks" gag isn't anything new, and severe rewrite on this is needed in order for this to be acceptable. At the very least, the Oscar and TARDIS references need to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:53, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Alls I know is that Snoopy's house was huge on the inside. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 09:00, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to this... and a reference to that... and a reference to this other thing... and a reference to something else... make up your mind! I hate "facts" like this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:05, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline''' Nice thinking, but I think it gets used to much to be an actual reference to anything. The gag is also used in Eek! The cat (Sharky's house), and SpongeBob Squarepants (Patrick's house).
*'''Comment''' In the book, "The ultimate unnofficial guide to the mysteries of Harry Potter", they say in the fouth book chapter that it's a reference to the TARDIS in Dr. who when the tent really was a three room flt at the Quidditch World Cup, Or Moody's trunk in "Veritaserum"!
** How would THEY know what TBC were thinking? Was H*R even mentioned?! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:53, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** So? In any case, '''Patsy Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:52, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Accept''' I was about to decline this one until that last comment... I mean, if Harry Potter can make a Dr. Who reference, why not TBC? And if TBC can make a Dr. Who reference, why can't they make a reference to Peanuts, Oscar the Grouch, Spongebob, Stick Stickley, The Fresh Prince, Rocky III, and whoever else listed above has a roomy house.

=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
==== Length Of Grabbo Arm ====
The grabbo arm is about 3/4ths of the length of the screen, and judging by Strong Bad's height, and the chart on Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon, the grabbo arm is about 6 feet long. Since Strong Bad is about 4 feet long and the grabbo arm is a little higher than him, therefore the measurement.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:55, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Homestar's Clock ====
It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

*First of all, ''analog'' clocks usually don't have an indicator, and Homestar's clock is called a ''digital'' clock. Second of all, most people can tell whether it is AM or PM by looking outside. --24.21.86.243 10:00, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise and accept''' Not in Alaska.
*'''Revise and accept''' first of all, this IS a electric analog clock, uses small wheels inside with the numbers, i've seen this style before, also there is no indicator on this model but not all of them have it, normally they use a ssmall ne-2 indicator lamp with a 56k series resistor, he can tell am/pm by looking outside the window behind the clock but where are the buttons to set the alarm if any and when did you hear any alarm or see him shut it off? <nowiki>~~Frogz~~</nowiki>
**You know alot about clocks.
*'''Revise and accept''' What matters isn't whether Homestar can tell if it's AM or PM. He claims that he accidentally set the alarm for PM instead of AM, but how could he do that if the clock can't tell the difference between AM and PM? That's what's weird. (Frogz: Alarm buttons might be on back, and the music could be a short alarm.)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 20:39, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' To something like:
*Homestar says that he accidentally set his alarm for 10 PM instead of AM, but it is unclear how his clock can show the difference between AM and PM in the first place. There is no indicator!
**Maybe this is the cause of the confusion. -- all by [[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Third.'''..I mean.. '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:14, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' But get rid of the "Homestar says" part. Thats already noted in the transcript and adds un-needed weight to the fact. Just say "Its unclear how Homestar's clock can...and the rest"..[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' However, I think another important thing is the fact that if the clock does not have an AM/PM indicator, then Homestar would have had to set him clock after 10 AM (because, obviously, you can't set a clock like that any more than 12 hours in advance), further proving how...ahem... absent-minded he is.
*'''Decline''' I think we're trying to make a very complicated issue out of a very subtle joke - with no indicator, he COULDN'T have set it for AM or PM, in which case, his statement isn't false, it's just stupid... which isn't surprising coming from Homestar. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 20:43, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
*<Strike>'''Decline''' because his clock might have an indicator light that is on when it is AM and off when it is PM. I mean, my clock does.</Strike> Oops. Just watched the 'toon again and realized that his clock is NOT the same as mine. I'll be more careful next time. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]](I'm not logged in.)

==== Grabbo Arm Sound ====
Strong Bad's Grabbo Arm makes the same noises as Homestar's tricked-out propeller cap in [[car]].

*'''Accept''' Yes, this is just a copy and paste, but it is interesting and fun. It suggests a similarity of the internal workings of the two devices. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**'''Second.''' Although this ''is'' a "glitch," I do agree that it is fun! --[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:56, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Reusing something =/= glitch. A glitch is a bug or something messed up that happens even though it's not supposed to. Before you start criticizing others placement, you might want to consider working on yours. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Second to the part about calling these 'glitches'. --[[User:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''FunFact=very yes.''' I like this fun fact a lot, and even remember it when it was among the other fun facts. I wonder why it was stuff'd. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 18:17, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' And Strong Bad's left boxing glove looks the same as his right boxing glove...

==== Slippers ====
*Homestar's bunny slippers have the eyes and ears upside down relative to one another. This is also true in [[caper]].

*'''Decline.''' It is not interesting when it is easily observed while watching the cartoon. For example, "Homestar wears a propeller cap" would not make a good fun fact. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' it and put up a page for [[Items:Homestar's Slippers|Homestar's Bunny Slippers]] in the clothing category of the Items page. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
**Done. --[[user:pianoplayerontheroof|Pianoplayerontheroof]]
*'''Accept''' Pointing out that their upsidedown is perfectly reasonable. And for lords sake, not every other fun fact HAS to be STUFF'd--[[User:68.4.92.98|68.4.92.98]] 22:22, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' I agree on the STUFFing - the issue about 'Order?' on [[rock opera]] should not have been STUFF'd in the first place. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:48, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

==== Blade man ====
The rusty steak knife being perfect for Coach Z may reference the fact that he's a "blade man, man" from [[personal favorites]].

*'''Decline.''' This, and the phone without the wire, is a reference to a disturbingly dark cartoon "Salad Fingers" whose title character enjoys touching rusty objects and once used a similar phone.
**You need to sign your decline, please. Otherwise, it doesn't count. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Ew, I didn't pick up the Salad Fingers reference. That is a fun fact. (Please don't comment on my stupidity if it's already in the fun facts; I haven't been to that page in a bit) - [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
*'''Neutral.''' It's possible, but it's more likely that the rusty steak knife was more of a prelude to Coach Z's Decemberween TV dinner. He didn't seem to have any utensils to eat the salisbury steak with. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:34, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' The original dialogue was "I'm a white guy with a knife!".It was edited out. So Coach Z had to say something different.

==== Charlie Brown ====
The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Some people don't seem to understand that H*R has elements of a carefully thought-out parody, and is not just a silly cartoon. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:22, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Neutral''' The fact is correct, but it's less likely a parody of Charlie Brown THIS time. See, it's EXACTLY the same as in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], which has MUCH stronger Charlie Brown overtones. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:00, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Weak Decline.''' ...for the reasons stated above. Since the previous year's Decemberween toon had a very strong Charlie Brown reference, the repeated instance in this year's toon is less significant. However, if you include this item, you have to include a similar item in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], as the POV where Homestar is knocking on Marzipan's door is the same kind of setup as stated here. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Move''' to [[Homestar's House]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:54, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Anyone who declines this must not think straight, I mean come on, Homestar walks right out of his house and to the brick wall just like in "peanuts" cartoons what i'm really tring to say is this is most definatley a parody of charlie brown and whoever doesn't think so is obviously just trying too annoy people -Smoth Criminal
**'''Comment.''' You're thinking of Best Decemberween Ever - Homestar Presents: Presents doesn't have the brick wall. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== Wizard of Oz ====
Homsar "ringing" the paintbrush may be a reference to the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz sync. One of the syncs is a paintbrush being moved up and down, and a bell ringing.

*'''Decline.''' Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept.''' And in what other context do paintbrushes ring? This kind of pointless and obscure reference is right up the Chaps' alley. It's not like it's the first obscure reference to be found in the toons; heck, just look at the costumes in every Halloween toon.--[[User:HeartBurn Kid|HeartBurn Kid]] 11:15, 25 Jan 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept Second'd''' I myself have not seen the DSotM/WoO sync, but if the original sync is there, I believe this should be a legitimate reference. And that 'Complete speculation' vote (and every other on this page) should be discounted as a joke vote as it is obvious trolling. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:51, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Second''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:19, 11 Mar 2005 (MST)
****Actually, there's a reason why it appears more than once. See, 24.21.86.243 put a WHOLE LOT of facts under one heading and voted for all of them with a single "Decline, Complete speculation, carefully thought out parody, etc." Then someone split the facts and duplicated the (at the time) two votes that were given, for each one. (I think racerx was the other duplicated vote.) So it wasn't REALLY trolling, just one person with a bad voting scheme and someone who split them like this. See my comment on the next fact! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:41, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This is merely adding to the fact that Homsar is excempt from reality's physics. -Walikng Armless
**'''Decline for the pudgy.''' What the armless guy said. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:04, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Beat It ====
Homestar's pajamas are exactly like the ones Michael Jackson wore in the "Beat It" music video.

'''VERDICT:''' By a vote of 2-1 after several weeks of voting, this item is accepted. -- [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== If you go up stairs you are on the second floor ====
[[Homestar's House | Homestar's room]] is up a flight of stairs, so it's probably on the second floor.

* True but uninteresting fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''decline''' A tad too obvious. --[[User:super orange!|super orange!]] 22:24, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:25, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
* '''Rewrite''' Maybe you could add something about the fact that Homestar's house looks like a one story from the out-side. [[Xycho]]
**No, it doesn't 24.21.86.243 12:56, 6 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's like saying: "Homestar uses a ladder to get on the roof of his house, so his roof must be really high up". [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline.''' Like the title says, "If you go up stairs you are on the second floor!" Nobody cares that his room is on the second floor. Most rooms are.
**'''Comment''' - Most houses are one-storey. ''"Most rooms are"''' I wouldn't say that most bedrooms are on a second level. Most bedrooms are on the first level because most houses are one-storey. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline''' Well EXCUSE ME. [[user:Xycho|Xycho]]
*'''Accept''' This is interesting because it is here that it's ''revealed'' that Homestar's room is near a flight of stairs. Also, it's not as obvious as you might think. For one, his falling down the stairs happens quickly and off camera, so you might miss it or think that he's fallen down his front steps. Then there's the fact that we've never seen an exterior shot of this version of Homestar's house, so it's mere speculation that there even ''is'' a second story. He could have fallen into the basement for all we know. [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:15, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Declinio''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:58, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite''' "Since there is a staircase next to Homestr's room, either his room is on the second floor or he has a basement." That should take care of any confusion.--[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 17:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's Phone ====
Coach Z's phone is the same one from [[replacement]].

*'''Revise.''' Say that it's similar to the one from [[replacement]]. [[User:Upsilon|--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
*'''Revise.''' It's not the same phone, but the phone cord being broken might be a reference to [[replacement|replacement's]] red phone [[Strong Bad]] used. [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam votes on a STUFF'd fun fact again!]]
*Inconclusive. It's not clear whether both of these revisions are the same one. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:17, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)
**Well, they're not really the same. Mine says "similar", his says "reference". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Revise.''' Say that it 'resembles' the phone from replacement. Do not say "similar" or "reference"!

==== It's odd considering... ====
It's odd considering Homestar went to bed on the 23rd and didn't wake up till decemberween that his tear-away calender was on the 25th. He obviosly didn't change it because he was sleeping.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]

*'''Revise, accept.''' It's plausible, but I'm not sure the high heels part is necessary. --[[User:Lyzz|Lyzz]]
**Rephrased so it isn't a question, removed the bit about high heels. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
*'''Accept.''' This sounds more likely to me than the Salad Fingers thing. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
*'''Revise, accept.''' I think that a fun fact should be listed that explains both speculations, for example: "There has been quite some speculation about Coach Z talking on his unplugged phone. Some say it is a reference to the Salad Fingers series, in which Salad Fingers uses a similar phone, and also due to the rusty steak knife, as Salad Fingers likes to touch rusty objects. Others say it is a reference to the film The Waterboy, as in one scene, Coach Klein(Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Comment''' Talk about bloated - that revision is a STUFF item just waiting to happen. We're working with Fun '''Facts''' here, not semi-random speculations. In any case, this is an awful lot to be posting about something as silly (pathetic?) as Coach Z talking on a disconnected phone. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

==== "state trooper" ====
Homsar's line "You're a real state trooper" is a commonly mistaken lyric from the song '''Straight Shooter''' by The Mamas and the Papas. The real lyric is "You're a real straight shooter." [[User: Terra Rising|Terra Rising]] Dec 27, 2004 1:40 AM (PST)

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== A running gag? ====
The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

* '''Decline''' I'm the one who moved it here. I hear a connection, but not enough to think that it was intended as a running gag by the Brothers Chaps. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 08:09, 29 Dec 2004 (MST)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 15:28, 30 Dec 2004 (MST)
* '''Agree''' I am not a user here, but I agree with you. It really should be a running gag. You're welcome, Nate(Big fan of H*RWiki)
* '''Agree''' I agree with this. I've never noticed this before, and it is indeed pretty fun to learn. -[[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]]
* '''Accept''' I noticed it to. --[[user:super orange!|super oraaaange!]]
**'''Second''' --[[homestarkid09|homestarkid09]]
* '''Revise and Accept''' I believe what the fact is TRYING to say is that Homestar uses the reverse emphasis on his action speech. For example, with "High-Ball!" from Radio, if one were winding up to throw a glass, one would exclaim, "High, BALL!" Instead, Homestar reverses it: "HIGH Ball.". He does the same in many of these two syllable action phrases. It's a character quirk that I think is straddling the line between obscurity and popularity, it's most definitely intentional, and it'll probably be back. --[[User:Noshtzy|Noshtzy]]
* '''Accept'''. Homestar likes using two-syllable exclamations. A perfectly okay fun fact. Who STUFFed this anyways??!? --[[User:kerrek_slaya|Kerrek Slaya!]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:43, 9 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept, but move.''' If this is a character trait (and I think the consensus is that it is), it belongs either on Homestar's page or as part of the running gags, NOT on the Homestar Presents: Presents page - especially given the three previous references. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:30, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 08:39, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[animal]] ===
==== Just me being picky ====
The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ninjin Ninja|Ninjin Ninja]]
**Even more '''Second!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:04, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' The possibilities for ambiguity with this voting system are just endless, aren't they? Since it wouldn't seem fair for me to cast the deciding vote and then immediately end this, I'm going to wait for someone else to do that (if I were voting, I'd just make it more confusing and say decline; I don't understand what this guy is saying at all). --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 11:21, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I'll make it difficult... The thing is, the whole issue is quite ambiguous, since the way the perspective works, we never see the keyboard and it's possible that Strong Bad IS able to type without us seeing. See [[rock opera]] - it could be something as simple as TBC not wanting to take the time to really work out the logistics of getting SB's hands where the viewers can see them. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 01:31, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Off-screen typing ====
Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.

*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
**'''Accept''' ...Though it's not the first time. I can't remember where I first remembered seeing this, but it was some time ago. I'm not totally inclined to go through each and every one to find out, but I do remember instances where cutting back to Strong Bad revealed that he had typed what he was doing as a voice-over. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:20, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)
***'''Comment.''' This happens again in [[best thing]], when it cuts away to show the videotape that the Limozeen cartoon is on - when it cuts back, it shows that SB typed what he said during the cut-away, but no typing was heard. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
<pre>Although Strong Bad usually only types what he's saying when the
Compy is visible, his voiceover for Sterrance's appearance is visible
on the Lappy at the end of the email.</pre>
:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' I don't even know what they're talking about. --[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]
**That's why I suggested the rewrite. ;) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Comment.''' More ambiguity. The system I like would result in adding the rewrite. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 14:34, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' This should actually be let slide, seeing as how TBC are working with a new format for emails in this one and can be forgiven for some slipups.
*'''Accepterific''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:07, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''ACCEPT'D!''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 10:49, 16 Apr 2005 (EST)

==== Baby Doll Crazy Dance ====
When Strong bad realizes that he can't be a fangley fish and dance on top of the fangley fish at the same time, you hear an Atari sounding noise, and the "Baby Doll" dancer starts going back and forth really quickly. I think this is a reference from an old Atari 2600 game, but for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

*'''Accept''': Looks good to go
*Good to go my eye. '''Decline''', '''''unless''''' you can '''Revise''' this to mention what Atari game it is. You've got plenty of time. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:22, 5 Feb 2005 (MST)
**[http://www.atariage.com/software_search.html?SystemID=2600 Use this.] --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 08:53, 16 Feb 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise/Weak Decline''' -- Basically, this is the same sound made when you roll over the 'store' button on [[Main Page 13]], as well. Even so, there doesn't seem to be any indication in the wiki page for that what game (or games) this sound could have been taken from. Personally, it doesn't seem like something worth spending a whole lot of time on researching. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 01:45, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline.''' If you don't remember which one it was, why make it a fun fact? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 05:36, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I like that music, and it could be in a PBTC voice. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:46, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Der Klein''' Find out what the game is, and maybe this'll work. Until then, don't waste our time, especially if you only THINK it's a reference. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 16:46, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Sprechen'd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:14, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Fanglyfish ====
The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
*'''STRONGLY rewrite, if not decline''' The Anglerfish part is obvious. The other part might be significant, but it doesn't feel like NPOV as written. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:30, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' "Though [[Strong Bad]] wants to be a deep sea fanglyfish, like an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish angelerfish], he doesn't know that only the females of this species get to sport the Christmas lights and lures. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz to the 123]]

=== [[virus]] ===
====Real virus?====
Since the curret Frequently Asked Questions page says every email but 'mile' is real, it's safe to assume someone actually tried to crash Compy 386 by sending a virus to Strong Bad.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== The Number 423,827 ====
I'm just wondering what significance, if any, the number 423,827 has to HomeStarRunner.com. I personally think it could be the total number of Strong Bad e-mails recieved to date <s>by the site</s> since SB got his Compy, however I do not know how to confirm that.

'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:virus]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:03, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Drive letter ====
After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command
*'''Accept''' Good catch, I didn't even catch it. --[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:15, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' This is a valid goof (it COULD just be part of the viruses beginning to act), but the second line about Strong Bad knowing the right command is unnecessary. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:33, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)

==== Quote of the Day (or so) ====
Shortly after the release of this e-mail the format of the Quote of the Week box was changed to include the character's image and transcription of the quote. However, this change was not copied for the fake box in this e-mail.
*'''Decline''' There, you just said it yourself. Shortly ''>>'''AFTER'''<<'' the release of this e-mail. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:22, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)

====The Compy's Reign====
This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
*'''Decline.''' This is a comment, not a fact. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' Actually, leave out "What's interesting about this is that" and it's all fact. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Revise.''' Strike the second sentence and add a link to [[Compy 386]]. --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005
*'''Rewrite.''' "This e-mail marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign, outliving the Tandy by almost twice as long." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:18, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

====Blue Laser Babies====
The Blue Laser Babies and their striking resemblence to the Blue Laser Commander can be an off-shoot reference to "Austin Powers", where Dr. Evil creates a miniature, almost baby-ish clone of himself known as Mini-me.
*'''Decline.''' It's just a joke! People take their kids with them when they go shopping. It's just plain funny to think that BLC has twins and maybe even a Mrs. BLC back home! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:54, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' Mini-me isn't even a baby, regardless of what Fat Bastard says. And even so, the smaller version of the evil villain bit didn't even originate in Austin Powers. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 12:16, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''No no no.''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:18, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Blue Laser Commander Eyepatch====
The eyepatch that the Blue Laser Commander wears could also be a reference to "Austin Powers", where the evil sidekick of Dr. Evil, Number Two, wears an eyepatch in the same fashion.
*'''Decline.''' Except that BLC is not the evil sidekick, but the evil commander. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 09:56, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Disney "Mickey" Logo====
All of the Cheat Commandos have a marking in the shape of the Disney "Mickey" logo on their lower leg.

*'''Weak Accept.''' I noticed this recently. Hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere. I put it here directly just to save valuable mission time. I thought it was interesting, but let's let The Collective decide. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 12:39, 17 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Very Weak Decline''' Dunno what to make of this one, really... It certainly does seem to be true, but whether or not it constitutes a fun fact is kinda up in the air. Personally, I think coincidences like this (since it probably wasn't intentional) don't really make for good fun facts. Still, I'm pretty close to neutral on this. It might be more notable that all the cheat commandos have the same pattern of spots. --[[User:Zonath|Zonath]] 21:41, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Accept, Second''' I can agree with Zonath, but the fact is a mite weird. It should sound more like in the shape of Mickey Mouse's head, or something. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:57, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)
*<strike>'''Actual Decline.'''</strike> All of this neutral, weak decline, weak accept business... somebody take a stand! <strike>I say decline it: we're just seeing shapes in the clouds.</strike> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:36, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' I'd agree if just ''one'' CC had the marking. But as far I as I tell they ''all'' have it and it's pretty well-formed, too. Still, I won't cry if the Weak Declines outnumber the Weak Accepts. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 10:03, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh*''' Oh, great. Now ''I'm'' undecided, too. What's the real issue here? Is the shape there? Yes. Is it pretty well-formed? Yes. Did TBC put it there intentionally? I say no, but admittedly that's just a gut feeling. And you never know with those guys. So, as a straight "didja' notice?" fact, I'm persuaded to change my vote to '''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:06, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Definite Accept''' Also, the reason they All have the spot is that the Cheat Commandos are carbon copies of one image(with accessories, facial hair, etc.). Plus, Mickey's head would be in color; The Mickey logo, however, is the solid black tri-circle seen on the CC's. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 12:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept.''' I mean, ''I'' think it's interesting... --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:41, 13 Apr 2005
*'''<strike>Kevin 'Cline''' It's just a dot. It may be in that shape, but it's definitely unintentional. I mean, do you ever intentionally draw your dots in the shape of Mickey Mouse heads?</strike> Eh. I'm neutralizing. And gasp at the below comment. (EDIT) Ouch. Just struck out everything. Damn slash. [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*'''Weak Decline.''' Google search for Hidden Mickeys if you're interested in the time-honored tradition for Disney artists to hide Mickey heads in everything they can get their hands on. That being said, he Mickey head I see on the Commandos is fairly deformed. The ears are too small and too close together, for instance. Since this probably wouldn't pass muster for a Hidden Mickey, I'm giving a pass on this fact. (and for SP, yes I do draw my dots in the shape of Mickey heads!) <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 00:42, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== [[lackey]]===
==== Unemployed? ====

In [[montage]], The Cheat is said to be unemployed. However, he has been a paid lackey since he'd known Strong Bad. (might fall under montage fun fact too).

*'''Decline''' Yeah, and "lackey" looks real good on a resume - Current Salary: pencil shavings... Seriously though, as it is with just about any kind of gag, it involves something being exaggerated. Strong Bad was asked to create a montage - so he made some up... emphasis on "made up". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:39, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ian|Ian]] 18:52, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' Just because it's a bad job with very poor pay doesn't mean its not a job. And, technicly, the entire catoon series is an exagerated gag.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 14:16, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' I disagree - even if the series is loaded with exaggerated gags, there are still accepted premises. Also, don't forget that the end credits photo montages usually give narration from some point after what takes place in the montage - The Cheat could become unemployed in some toon in the future, which would make this item moot. In any case, as I said above, SB was asked to "creat" a montage, so the result was something he completely made up - in that respect, whatever comes of it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be canon. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I know the current is going towards a lot of declines, but this is one I have to '''ACCEPT.''' I actually think this fact is a decent one. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 10:37, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment.''' I just realized the problem with this item: there isn't really a discrepancy here. Lackey is #96 while Montage is #117, so it's possible that The Cheat could have become unemployed (as a lackey) between then and...then. We're not told about anything regarding The Cheat's job status in the meantime, so this isn't really that notable. (And my comments above about the montage not being canon still stand.) --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
**Not necessarily. I am sure that if Strong Bad did lose his The Cheat, we would have heard about it. I'm sure The Cheat is more valueable to him than his Compy, but look at how much he freaked out when it was shotgun'd, If he lost The Cheat he would probably be depressed for a few weeks. Also, in extra plug, The Cheat still stands by, wating for his orders (to plug in the shoes) which would indicate he is still a valueable lackey to SB. And I realise that he "created a montage", and the results dont have to be completely true. However, there is nothing indicating that it is UNtrue either.--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 12:36, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] ===
==== Relation to The Biggest Raddish ====

The 1936 Strong Bad hauling the Parsnips in the wheel barrow with Strong Man and The Sneak is reminiscent of Strong Bad, The Cheat and Strong Mad hauling the Biggest Raddish in [[The Reddest Radish]]. In fact, it has been speculated that this is the 1936 predecessor to The Reddest Raddish.

'''VERDICT''' - A revised version of this item was Accepted and appears on the [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]] page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:19, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Strong Sad's Lament]] ===
====Strong Bad's Lament?====
History Lesson Part II is written in the exact style of Strong Bad, as in that the entry says Johnny Appleseed was a hippie, and calls Strong Sad "dumpus". This may be becasue Strong Sad gave out his password earlier, so Strong Bad may have hacked Strong Sad's account and written his own entry.

*'''Decline.''' If that was true, Strong Bad would more likely write "HJLWHOUISNASNKL?A STUPID!! GUY I AM A STUPID GUY!! HA HA HA!!!!GUIS kljIUS SJ". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:16, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*That was one incident! You can't say that Strong Bad would write like that all the time. And you can't honestly say that sounds like Strong Sad. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:39, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*<s>'''Revise, Accept''' Too much speculation as written, but I must admit that it DOES look a bit more like SB's handiwork than SS's. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)</s>
*'''Decline''' I'm not seeing Strong Bad listening to a live David Bowie track... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:36, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**And doubt Strong Bad could draw that good. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:42, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** We ARE talking about the same Strong Bad, right...?
*You're using his art and musical tastes as an argument? Strong Bad's drawings of Trogdor during the theme is just as good as Saddy Dumpington, and Strong Sad would not call himself Dump*, let alone call anyone a hippie. And Strong Bad's character in no way reflects his music choices. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:15, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**What makes you think the drawings at the end of [[dragon]] are Strong Bad's? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***What makes you think the Saddy Dumpington drawing is Strong Sad's? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:54, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**My point is, TBC would never make a joke that subtle. For example, [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] didn't end without proofing who really judged the pumpkins. This "fact" is almost silly as ye old [http://old.hrwiki.org/index.php?page=MarzipansAnsweringMachine%2FVersion+10.2%2FComments Homestar prank call debate]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:35, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*** So you're saying it DOES look like the kind of thing Strong Sad would write, what with all the typical Strong Bad comments? ("Dumpington", "freaking", "hippie", etc.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:35, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Yes/Maybe, I highly doubt Strong Bad would praise Francis Scott Key. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:10, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*Oh, and thanks to whoever added "Strong Bad's Lament to this section. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:16, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Vote change!''' Yup, I'm changing my vote. To a simple '''Accept'''. I didn't notice that his password really WAS given out on the page! I'm still pretty confident that the writing style and choice of words look more like SB than SS. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:00, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' [[User: Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]
*'''Accept''' Like Jay said above, I also don't think Strong Sad would use the words "freaking" and "hippie". I also don't think he "rocks out", even orchestrally, but that's just my opinion. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:23, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Secondinate!'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 16:59, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

=== [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5]] ===
====Most Legible?====
Homsar's message is the most(?) legible thing he has ever said.
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*Not the first. I know, [[homsar]], [[homsar]]. But his message is longer than "Yeah, what is it Strong Bad?". Maybe with some rewording? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 17:58, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline, or severe rewrite.''' Given the fact that this could become false in the future, as well as the item's subjective opinion, this one shouldn't be included. And what about "Hey Reggie, is that rhinocerous around?" That's a legible sentence - in fact, everything he says is legible. It just doesn't make any sense. Possibly the word you're looking for is "intelligible" or something along the lines of "Homsar's message makes the most sense out of anything he has ever said." But again, you're dealing with the "could be become false later" issue. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:15, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:26, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept'''. Very noteworthy. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 02:00, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. Opinion ("the most...ever") I don't think a rewrite would solve much. --[[User:The Paper|THE PAPER]] 16:42, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Severe Decline with a Complete Rewrite''' Is it noteworthy? Yes ... yes it is. Is it the most legible thing he's ever said? Dunno, I've never seen the Haddi-man's handwriting. It may be the most intelligible thing he's ever said ... to date. That's what makes this a bad fact: Homsar could become the most erudite cast member tomorrow. To quote from [http://www.ibras.dk/montypython/episode23.htm#3 Scott of the Sahara]...Rewrite! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:59, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I'm assuming this message was made in response to [[homsar]] to bring Homsar back since he was supposedly "killed". Also, since he was relatively new as a character, he wasn't as of yet uniquely nonsensical, as he is now. I'm believin' that's the reason this is the most legible thing he has ever written...I mean, said. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 02:02, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Yes, I meant intelligable, not legible. I forgot the word. I meant it makes sense the most. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:55, 16 April 2005 (MDT)
**Not to super nitpick, but the best word to use would probably be "sensible", since intelligible is just the ability to say words and sentences. He says stuff just fine, it just never makes any sense. [[User:GillanTheVillain|GillanTheVillain]] 03:07, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''"That's a real popular song! Who want's to hear that it's ACCEPTED!"''' Yep, I think this is a good point! Great job! *claps*--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 23:50, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[A Jorb Well Done]]===
====Strong Sad's Tape====

When Strong Sad first walks into the locker room, the label on his "job" tape is written backwards. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 8:57, 16 April 2005 (MDT)

==Games==
===[[Peasant's_Quest]]===
====Two names?====
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.
*'''Fhqwdlcinds''' So??? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**So, rather dashing's real name name is Julio. Good catch! Just '''revise''' it so that its a little more obvious. Try:
When you type in "talk kerrek", part of the message that comes up is "'Me llamo Julio'", which means "My name is Julio" in
Spanish. As this is said by Rather Dashing, his real name is Julio.
--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Me Declino Infinito.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:09, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''REWRITE'D!''' I was the one who wrote the thing anyway, so I rewrote it with -erson-san's suggestion. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:09, 14 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline the new one too''' It's still useless, and perhaps now moreso - are we next going to say that his name is Misspeller Jones? (Type "get plague" near the lantern.) It's a joke. Just go with it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment.''' But, it might NOT be. Geez, why does everyone always decline everything around here? --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 10:45, 16 Apr 2005
*** Oh, wait, what was that word? "Might"? As in, you're not certain? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 18:08, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****But the fact that Rather Dashing is saying "Me llamo Julio" as a conversation starter to the Kerrek would be a different case. Do you ever say "Hello my name is..." and mention an incorrect name? And about the "Misspeller Jones", is it not common for people to make up nicknames for people about their different characteristics? Like you call a clumbsy person "Butterfingers" even though his real name is Bob, or a bad typist "Misspeller Jones" even though his real name is Julio? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:34, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*****It sounds to me like the sort of thing you'd find in the first five pages of a beginners' Spanish textbook, and without otherwise knowing what to say to the Kerrek, he just rambled relative nonsense. We know his real name, and it's not Julio. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:06, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
******We dont ''know'' that his real name is Rather Dashing, the character doesn't actually say it himself. Just the narrator. And whos more likely to know his own name, the narrator or Rather Dashing? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 02:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*******So, at the end of the game, the NARRATOR tells Trogdor (who repeats it - in voice acting!) that his name is Rather Dashing? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:17, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
********Sorry, I never played to the end of the game. But honeslty, what are the odds that if he was talking nonsence he would utter a phrase that just happens to be a very popular opening statement when meeting new people? And, there is no where in the game where it tells you Rather Dashing can't speak Spanish. Perhaps he though Kerrek spoke spanish.
*********Yes, I just double-checked the ending. The narration says "You scream that your name is Rather Dashing", followed by a long speech with a computer voice reading along (a direct quote by Trogdor), ending in "It will be a pleasure to burninate you, Rather Dashing." One random piece of text may give small credence to your theory that RD's real name is Julio, but the entire rest of the game contradicts it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:24, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Perhaps a rewrite than to indiciate that Rather Dashing's name may be Julio according to that text?--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 02:31, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**I don't think Fun Facts is a place for theories that "may be" true based on a possible interpretation of one statement. '''Decline.''' [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:30, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Yet Another Comment.''' We all know that "rather dashing" is a term meaning you're good-looking. Maybe he just calls himself that because he thinks he's, well, good-looking. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:41, 17 Apr 2005 (EST)
*How do we know he just didn't read that off of a Spanish textbook? It's just as much speculation to say that Rather Dashing CAN speak Spanish as it is to say he can't. Can't you just accept that this is random TBC humor? Seriously, this is a bigger stretch than Dhalsim. '''Me llamo decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:25, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===

====Control Scheme====
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.

'''Verdict:''' After over a month of voting, this fact was overwhelmingly '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 15:11, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Ninja Gaiden Levels====
Level X.x is also a reference to the display of levels in Ninja Gaiden.

'''VERDICT:''' After more than two weeks of voting this item was unanimously declined. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:53, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====Stoves====
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

'''Verdict:''' After several weeks of voting, this fact was unanimously '''Declined'''. Moved to [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6]]. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 23:09, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

====More Levels====
When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

*Far too obvious; anyone who beats the game can see that. Sure, it might be useful to anyone who can't beat the game, but it's hardly worth being listed as a "fun fact". --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Since the game doesn't have a Transcript, this is useful information for the game's page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Oh, and Ogog, I'm assuming that's a Decline? You never actually voted. Just a heads-up. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:42, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I was going to leave it for others to decide after I explained why I moved it here, but yeah, '''Decline'''. --Ogog
*'''Weak Accept''' It doesn't seem worth pointing out, really, but I guess it's interesting. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' It is now noted in the Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:58, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept & Revise''' Add that this message suggests that there might be a second Stinkoman game sometime in the future. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

====Stone Fist====
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Engrish====
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. '''All Your Second Are Belong To Us''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Brody====
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

====Tampo====
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
====Wagon Wheel====
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]
*'''Decline''' I'd agree with you, but there's proof that says otherwise.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:11, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== General ==
=== Cross-Toon Facts ===
==== Parents ====
When [insert scene here], this is one of the few references to any of the characters having any parents.
* '''Decline every last case''' Not necessary; the parents of various characters are referred to multiple times (the Bros. Strong, Pom-Pom, and even Marzipan (even though the last one was later changed.)) Similarly, any instance of "This is the first time Strong Sad has smiled/laughed/burped/sighed/whatevered" is not only silly but, these days, wrong. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)
* '''Revise, Accept.''' Just replace [insert scene here] with a description of the scene, and you're good to go.
** The point to this fact is that people have attempted to add it to MANY emails under MANY circumstances (and some incorrectly labelled it "the first" instead of "one of the few".) Notice that this is under "Cross-Toon Facts". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' The phrase "one of the few" should automatically disqualify this from being accepted. Fun facts should tell something unique or noteworthy about the toon in question - if you have to rattle off a list of other toons where the same thing happened (except in extreme cases where a reference to a previous e-mail/toon is explicit), then it shouldn't be included. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:53, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)