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[[Image:Mini-golf.png|thumb|200px|The madness begins.]]

A trip to the [[Sweet Puttin' Cakes]] mini-golf course followed by madness.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Eh! Steve!}}, {{film|Drive-Thru Whale}}, {{film|Sherlock}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|The Worm}}, {{film|Keyboard Strong Bad}}, {{film|The Wheelchair}}, {{film|Ready For Primetime}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|Homsar}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Sweet Puttin' Cakes]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]]

'''Date:''' Monday, August 13, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 4:27

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' E-mail! I'm so in love with you! It's kind of inappropriate!

<blockquote class="lappy email"><div>
subject: miniature golf course</div>
Helllooooooo Strongbad, 
I was wondering if Strongbadia had a miniature golf 
course because I think it would be cool if Strongbadia 
had a miniature golf course. 
Hoping to play the Strongbadia miniature golf course soon, 
Somebody noone cares about in IA
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad pronounces "Helllooooooo" as "Hell-la-la-la-la-looooo" and adds "Also known as, Everyone in Iowa" at the end of the e-mail}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' What, are you getting paid every time you say the words 'miniature golf course?' Because I'd, miniature golf course, like to get in on that ac-miniature golf course-tion.

''{clears screen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Of, miniature golf course, course, I don't sell out for cheap. I usually get ''{typing in orange}'' Kozmik Bowling ''{cha-ching sound from a cash register; continues typing normally}'' 50 bucks everytime I ''{typing in red}'' That Paintball Place Down the Street ''{cha-ching sound; typing normally}'' mention some kind of ''{typing in blue}'' Waterslide Dan's MoistWorld ''{cha-ching sound; typing normally}'' fun-time emporium.

''{[[New Paper]] comes down.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, no, no! Not now! Did that sound like I was done? Get back up there!

''{New Paper goes back up. Strong Bad clears the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Anyways, what were we talking about? Oh yeah, mini-golf. Strong Badia doesn't have a place of its own, so when we need to get our tiny golf on, we usually head over to...

''{Cut to a sign that reads "Sweet Puttin' Cakes, Puttiature Golf-Golf".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Sweet Puttin' Cakes.

''{Zoom out to reveal a Sweet Cuppin' Cakes based area. Multiple miniature golf holes are scattered around the sign. Eh! Steve! stands on top of a large golf ball holding a putter.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And yes, it's every bit as messed up as the cartoon on which it's based. In fact, we don't even know how to get there.

''{Zoom in to three golf balls bouncing on a piece of turf. Slow pan across the hole to a metal version of Sherlock lying on the hole with his mouth open.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' It's just like, one minute you're thinking about miniature golf...

''{Cut to Strong Bad's basement. The Cheat and Strong Bad are lying on the couch. The remote lies near The Cheat's feet.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You know what I love? The smell of that rubber handle on the putters, that you know like a thousand other...

''{The audio track slows down. Zoom in to Strong Bad's Mouth.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...people have touched.

''{The screen fades to black.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ...and the next minute, you're there.

''{Cut back to Sweet Puttin' Cakes. The Cheat and Strong Bad appear in the middle of the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{simultaneously} {impressed The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Your descent into madness begins on the first hole. The Wormhole.

''{Cut to Homestar standing in a circular piece of turf holding a putter. A ball is at his feet. Off to the right is the metal version of Sherlock. Homestar putts the ball. The ball rolls towards the hole when suddenly the hole moves to the right. Zoom in on the hole. The Worm pops up.}''

'''THE WORM:''' Get your own.

''{The Worm bites into the golf ball. Another Worm appears and bites the first. They then travel in a circle down the hole and back up out of the ball. Zoom out to previous scene}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Umm, I'm gonna say that's a birdie. ''{Homestar bends over and squints at the worms}'' Yep. Definitely a birdie. ''{Homestar bends over and squints again}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Things calm down a little bit for the Eh!th, Steve! hole.

''{Cut to a hole where Eh! Steve! is seen moving his mouth up and down, revealing a hole every time it opens. Strong Bad walks in from the bottom of the screen. Cut to view of Strong Bad and The Cheat at the beginning of the hole. Strong Bad is on the starting mat. Homestar is still visible in the background, examining the loop of worms. Zoom in on Strong Bad. An arm similar to Strong Bad's reaches in from the right side of the screen and taps Strong Bad on the shoulder.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What?

''{Cut to view of Keyboard Strong Bad. Keyboard Strong Bad starts playing music and jumping up and down. Cut back to view of the beginning of the hole with The Cheat, Strong Bad, and Keyboard Strong Bad in view.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, geez! I didn't know you were ahead of us! No need to play the whole demo, man!

''{Cut to view of the Eh! Steve! hole. Strong Bad exits the bottom and Keyboard Strong Bad enters. Keyboard Strong Bad putts a hole in one.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Of course, if you sink the putt, you get rewarded with that heavenly sound!

'''EH! STEVE!:''' EH! STEVE!

''{A tile opens up, revealing The Wheelchair.}''

'''THE WHEELCHAIR:''' ROOTY ROO ROO AND A FROOTY FROOO!

''{The screen dims slightly.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' The place isn't above some of the usual mini-golf transgressions though.

''{Cut to a white statue of The Wheelchair with a sign reading "Statch!" next to it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Like the infamous "statue hole".

''{Zoom out to reveal The Cheat and Strong Bad at the beginning of a hole.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh! Watch out, The Cheat! There is a statue of a wheelchair outside the field of play, several feet away!

''{Zoom back in to the statue.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Not moving at all! Just, statuing! On top of that, the hole is about one foot from the tee. ''{tilt down to reveal so}'' Isn't the fun, almost, too much, to take?

''{The screen dims slightly as The Cheat putts and misses.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And yes, even in this infernal place, you can't escape the blue family recreation water!

''{Cut to a shot of Ready for Primetime with water flowing from its mouth into a lake. Slowly zoom out to reveal a hole with a bridge over the lake. Bumps in the course keep appearing and disappearing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That stuff's just begging for kids to either drink it, or pee in it.

''{A ball is putted across the course and stops near the bumps. A bump appears under it, knocking it into the water.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Or worse, ''{queasy}'' booooooooooooth.

''{Zoom back in to Ready for Primetime. On its right side black letters reading "BOTH" slowly crawl down the screen into the lake. Homestar pops up from underwater, slightly tinged blue}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whoo! I didn't find my ball, but I did see some exotic marine life!

''{Strong Bad walks in from the top right part of the screen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Homestar, all that's down there is cigarette butts.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' And... a bra. ''{holds up a brassiere}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Sweet! ''{gives the thumbs up sign}''

''{Cut to Coach Z, on a circular hole with a rocky wall, holding a putter with a red golf ball at his feet. Zoom out to reveal it's in the middle of space.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The 18th hole puts a unique twist on the standard bottomless-hole-that-sucks-your-golf-ball-away-forever, hole.

''{Coach Z putts. The ball falls into the hole and drops down offscreen then falls from the top of the screen onto Coach Z's head. The ball bounces off his head and lands at his feet. Zoom in on Coach Z's head.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oh, I guess I forgort to port!

''{Coach Z putts again. The ball again falls into the hole and down onto Coach Z's head. The ball bounces off his head and lands at his feet}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oh, I guess I forgat to prat!

''{Once again, Coach Z putts, and the cycle repeats}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oh! Fork of a pork!

''{Coach Z putts once again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' This will go on forever if you let it. In fact, ''{cut back to Sweet Puttin' Cakes}'' the only way we've found to ''leave'' Sweet Puttin' Cakes, ''{Strong Bad and The Cheat enter from opposite sides of the screen}'' is to simply will yourself back into reality.

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat both scrunch their faces and grunt. Cut back to the couch. Both The Cheat and Strong Bad appear on the couch exactly how they were before}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Dehcuot evah elpoep rehto dnasuoht—

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{surprised The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aie-e-i-e-i-e-ah. Whoa, that was weird. ''{zoom in on Strong Bad}'' My mouth tastes like, backwards.

''{Cut to The Cheat.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Your mouth tastes like what?

''{The Cheat open his mouth, revealing some of the water from Sweet Puttin' Cakes. Zoom out to show the full couch}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat! You didn't!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{shrugs} {apologetic The Cheat noises}''

''{New Paper comes down.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' There you go! See? ''That'' was a punchline! And, another thing. Are you ever ''not'' running out of ink?

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on "Kozmik Bowling", "That Paintball Place Down the Street", and "Waterslide Dan's Moistworld" to see scorecards from each of the establishments.
*At the end, click the remote to see a scene at the Drive-Thru Whale hole.
:''{Strong Bad is arguing with the Drive-Thru Whale on a green with no apparent hole}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{irritated}'' No, the hole. Where is the hole?
:'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' Pour gravel on your stump please, ma'am.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Did you just tell my mom to pour gravel on her stump?
:'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' Cave your brown.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Cave my brown? Homsar, is that you?
:''{Homsar floats by in the background}''
:'''HOMSAR:''' AaAaAaAaA! Don't count on it, monster man!

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===
*In golf, par refers to the number of strokes expected to complete a hole.
*A birdie is one stroke under par.
*1010 = 10,000,000,000, or 10 billion.
*∞ is the sign for [[Wikipedia:Infinity|infinity]].
*Many Mini-Golf courses have water that is dyed blue.
*The worm biting itself alludes to [[Wikipedia:uroboros|uroboros]] (A single snake that devours itself, symbolizing the concept of cyclicality or philosophical perennialism).

===Trivia===
*Strong Bad's backwards speech as he and The Cheat return are the words "thousand other people have touched" from the beginning (although not slowed as much).

===Remarks===
* In the beginning, the Drive-Thru Whale putting surface is seen with several holes, but in the Easter egg, all the holes are gone.
* All characters putt right-handed. Also, when Coach Z putts, his right hand is above his left hand, which is reversed from the proper form for right-handed putting (right hand below left hand).
* There is no Back button at the end of the email.
===Fixed Goofs===
*When this email was first released, you couldn't access it on any main page.

===Inside References===
*One of the players in the bowling scorecard easter egg is named [[Dan]].
:*Strong Bad also mentions "Waterslide Dan's Moistworld" for yet another reference to the name "Dan".
* [[Rumble Red]] appears on the <s>Kommunist</s>Kozmik Bowling scorecard.
*Strong Bad saying his mouth tastes like backwards could be a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[morning routine]], where he said his mouth tastes like emails.
*The black sludge that enters the water appears similar to the blackness that appeared when Coach Z removed his bathing suit in [[underlings]].

===Real World References===
* The "Sweet Puttin' Cakes, Puttiature Golf-Golf" sign is a play on the fact that [[Wikipedia:Miniature golf|miniature golf]] is sometimes known as "[[Wikipedia: Putt-Putt Fun Centers|putt-putt]]".
* Kosmik (or Cosmic) Bowling is a promotion where fluorescent pins, black lights, and loud music are used on the lanes.
* The "bottomless-hole-that-sucks-your-golf-ball-away-forever, hole" refers to the 18th hole on mini-golf courses where the ball goes into a chest which only golf course employees can open.

== External Links ==
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== Official Sites ==
Sites created by [[The Brothers Chaps]] listed in order of their relevance to Homestar Runner.

*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/ Homestar Runner] ([[homestarrunner.com|article]]) — The official site.
*[http://www.videlectrix.com/ Videlectrix] ([[Videlectrix|article]]) — The official site for [[Games]] released by [[The Brothers Chaps]] under the Videlectrix banner.
*[http://www.thoraxcorp.com/ Thorax Corporation] ([[Thorax Corporation|article]]) — A fake business created by The Brothers Chaps.
*[http://www.mellowmushroom.com/ Mellow Mushroom] ([[Mellow Mushroom|article]]) — A non-Homestar Runner related site designed by The Brothers Chaps.

== Mirrors ==
Mirrors to some of the content from the official site listed in alphabetical order.

*[http://homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/ Kitkorp Mirror] — This mirror has different incarnations of the various pages saved all in one place, as well as the error message from the old [[Strong Bad's Message Bored]].
*[http://www.freewebs.com/hsrquotes/index.htm Old Quote of the Week mirror] — This mirror has a large collection of quotes, and has previous quotes neat and orderly. Only goes from Jul. 2004 – Feb. 2005 (with lots of past ones)
**[http://www.freewebs.com/hsrquotes2/index.htm Quote of the Week mirror] — A sequel to the original site. See the final update on the original site for the reason. From March 2005 – Present. (With a collection of old ones, yes.)
*[http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://homestarrunner.com Wayback Machine] — contains versions of the site from years ago to months ago.

== Articles ==
Articles about Homestar Runner or The Brothers Chaps listed in reverse chronological order (newest at the top).
*[http://media.www.dailyemerald.com/media/storage/paper859/news/2006/02/08/Pulse/Ask-Strong.Bad-1965093.shtml Ask Strong Bad] The Oregon Daily Emerald, February 2006
*[http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20050610/WEB10/TPEntertainment/TopStories Toon cachet] — The Globe and Mail, 10 June 2005 (subscription required)
*[http://www.tucsonweekly.com/gbase/music/Content?oid=oid:59640 Tucson Weekly TMBG Interview] — [[They Might Be Giants]] talk about their collaboration, 19 August 2004
*[http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.07/play.html Wired They Might Be Giants Interview] — July 2004
*[http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/28/arts/music/28POPL.html?ex=1377403200&en=f7d422e653648f25&ei=5007&partner=USERLAND Kindred World in Animation] — New York Times, 28 August 2003
*[http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-wood082703.asp Everybody to the Limit] — National Review Online, 27 August 2003
*[http://tinyurl.com/3mngj Run to the Hills] (Internet Archive) — Long Island Press, April 2003
*[http://www.livejournal.com/community/homestar_runner/899307.html Wonkavision Magazine Feature] — Scans of the 5-page feature from [http://www.wonkavisionmagazine.com/store/backissues.html Issue #21], Spring 2003

== Interviews with the Creators ==
*See [[Interviews and Public Appearances]]

== Fan Sites ==
Fan-created sites listed in alphabetical order.

*[http://www.freewebs.com/hrencyclopedia/ Aich-Star-Arr Compendium] — An encylopedia of Homestar Runner characters.
*[http://www.the-coolest-stuff-ever.com The-coolest-stuff-ever.com] — A website that Strong Bad visited in [[credit card]].
*[http://www.devonm.com Devon M.com] — A website with a ton of H*R references and appearances.
*[http://www.blurty.com/community/fhqwhgads/ Fhqwhgads: A Homestar Runner Community] — A [http://www.blurty.com/ Blurty] community for Homestar-themed animated and still icons.
*[http://hsr.boourns.net/ Homestar Runner Fanlisting] — A list of Homestar fans around the world.
*[http://homestar.meetup.com/ Homestar Runner Meetup Groups] — Meet other Homestar Runner fans in your area.
*[http://www.homestarrunner.net Homestar Runner Network] — Once the most popular Homestar Runner fan forum; currently a community portal under construction.
*[http://www.david.kleinschmidt.name/hsrandom h★random] — Displays a random cartoon from the Homestar Runner website.
*[http://www.freewebs.com/isle-of-pom/ The Isle of Pom fan site]
*[http://www.blueshinra.com/minishrines/limozeen/ Limozeen Mini-Shrine]
*[http://www.livejournal.com/community/homestar_runner/518052.html LiveJournal List] — A LiveJournal post with hundreds of Homestar-related links.
*[http://www.freewebs.com/quotestarrunner/ Quotestar Runner] — A website featuring quotes, music, and [[Marzipan's Answering Machine|Marzipan's Answering Machines]] in WAV format.
*[http://www.rhinofeeder.com/ rhinofeeder.com] — A mirror of [[Rhino Feeder]].
*[http://www.secretcollect.com/ secretcollect.com] — A mirror of [[Secret Collect.]].
*[http://hekima.lionking.org/thestick The Stick] — Has Homestar Runner stories and downloads.
*[http://geocities.com/strongbadiaworld/ Strongbadiaworld] — Strong Bad rendered in 3-D.
*[http://www.burninghorizon.com/strongbad/ Strong Bad Email Secrets]
*[http://www.strongbadzone.com/ strongbadzone.com] — A mirror of [[Strong Bad Zone]].
*[http://20x6.cjb.net/ Trogdor's Domain] — A [[Trogdor]]-themed fan site with [[Strong Bad Email]]s and [[Marzipan's Answering Machine|Answering Machines]] in MP3 format.
*[http://www.quizilla.com/users/ProjectOzma/quizzes/%20***Which%20HomeStar%20Runner%20Character%20Are%20You%3F***/ Which HomeStar Runner Character Are You?] — A Quizilla personality quiz.

== Fan Forums ==
Bulletin board sites listed in order of membership total.

*  [http://www.strongfans.com/ StrongFans Forum]
*  [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ Homestar Runner Wiki Forum]
*  [http://www.burninghorizon.com/hsrforum/ Burning Horizon's H*R Fan-Forum]
*  [http://www.usshomestarrunner.com/ USS Homestar Runner Forum]
*  [http://com1.runboard.com/bhomestarfreaks Homestar Freaks]

== Other Sites ==
Listed in alphabetical order.
*[http://www.answers.com/topic/homestar-runner Answers.com entry for Homestar Runner] — The main text is from the Wikipedia entry, but there is some additional information here.
*[https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=1696&application=firefox Full Screen Homestar Runner - Firefox Extension] — An extension for Mozilla Firefox that makes the cartoons on the official site fill the browser window.
*[http://dirkcrimson.keenspace.com/pics/homestarswitch.html Homestar Runner Switch Ad] — A Homestar-themed parody of the Apple "Switch" ads. Click and hold the Homestar icon at the end for a surprise.
*[http://www.interglacial.com/rss/homestar.rss Interglacial H*R RSS Feed] — Syndicated updates polled 3 times a day.
*[http://www.suave.net/~dave/trogdor.cgi LEGO Trogdor] — Part of the [[dragon]] email redone with LEGO bricks.
*[http://highscoreonline.cartoonsdammit.com/homstray.html Not Without My Application] (also known as "Jorbs a Plenti") — A Homestar Runner cartoon created by Matt Wilson, the creator of the [http://www.bonusstages.com Bonus Stage] and [http://www.highscoreonline.adiversions.com High Score] series.
*[http://feeds.feedburner.com/podstartopod Podstartopod] — A [[Podstar Runner]] RSS feed.
*[http://strongbadjibblies.ytmnd.com/ Strong Bad Jibblies] — Strong Bad having the [[Jibblies]].
*[http://www.angelfire.com/hi5/redcards/ Tim's Homestar Runner Redemption Cards] — Homestar-themed cards for a Christian collectible card game.
*[http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Homestar+Runner Urban Dictionary entry for Homestar Runner] — User submitted definitions for "Homestar Runner".
*[[Wikipedia:Homestar Runner|Wikipedia entry for Homestar Runner]] — Homestar Runner on the free encyclopedia.

== Redirects not owned by The Brothers Chaps ==
Listed in alphabetical order.

*[http://www.jomama.com jomama.com] — Links directly to [[The System is Down]]
*[http://www.peasantsquest.com peasantsquest.com] — Links directly to [[Peasant's Quest]].
*[http://www.strong-bad.com/ strong-bad.com] — Links directly to [[Strong Bad Email]].


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== It bounces! ==

Odd. When I move my mouse over the bar near the top-right corner that says that "log in/create account" stuff it moves all the way to the left. What gives? Also, the edit box has itty-bitty spaces between lines. Odd. -Color Printer, I can't log in for some reason.

Uh...that would be your computer, dude. It used to happen on my laptop a lot, but never happens anymore. {{User:Strong Devon/sig}}

Try using a different browser. -Jmoney (to lazy to log in, lol!)

== Update ==
*New Quote Of The Week, Weekly Fanstuff, and Sketchbook. --[[User:205.206.196.178|205.206.196.178]] 22:32, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks. You win the prize for being first! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 22:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

== christmas update? ==

Aren't we supposed to update the wiki with a cool, christmas-in-the-homestar-universe-themed skin and logo?--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:11, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

:We've never done it before, but then again, we've never done a halloween skin before, either. So I don't see why not. It's a matter of wiki-wide opinion. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:31, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
::I say we go for it. If Halloween gets a skin, Decemberween should too. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:01, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
:::We will do it. Just need to actually... ''do'' it. Dot com is pretty dang overwhelmed right now, though. You gotta give it to the guy. ''Unless'', somebody with the know-how can design and post some ideas. That would be very helpful. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:33, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
::::Near the beginning of the logo redesign discussion, [[User:Bleed0range|Bleed0range]] proposed [[:Image:Hrwiki dween logo.gif|this Decemberween logo]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:52, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::I like it. Any other opinions? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:00, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
::::::To clarify, I think the one Trey links to above is the way to go. I know another one was recently uploaded which is more like our current logo, with Homestar smiling. But the original seems more fitting to me: less distracting, plus mouth closed kind of makes sense if you're in the snow. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:07, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I also prefer the one Trey linked to. However, the newest one ([[:Image:Dweenlogo.gif|here]]) has a nice touch that I like: snow sitting on the letters. Unless bleed0range can add the snow to the older one (he explained that it's a difficult task to create these things), I think we should stick with the logo Trey linked to. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 03:13, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
I had a slightly different take on it. Here is [[:Image:HRWiki logo frozen.gif|our current logo frozen over]]. I used elements from our current logo and the ones above. I found the falling snow to be a little too much, so I didn't put it in this one. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:43, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

:I like the [[:Image:HRWiki logo frozen.gif|frozen over]] one. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:47, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
::I want to use the Decemberween logo until the end of Christmas (I'd choose the first one posted), then I would love to switch over to that logo for a while! All great logos, here. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:48, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
:::I'd prefer it if we only use one logo. I like the blue background better, but I really like the snow. It's only for a few days, so I don;t think it would be all too distracting.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:52, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
::::I think we should use the one of the two red & green and falling snow logos until the end of Christmas (and change the "what's new" part of the Main page to green) — after the end of Christmas, go to the frozen-over one. I like them both, but to me, the red & green says "Decemberween" and the frozen one says "winter". {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:01, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::To clarify myself and elaborate: [[:Image:Hrwiki dween logo.gif]] until the end of Christmas, then [[:Image:HRWiki logo frozen.gif]] for a while beyond that. Let's compromise, please. Bleedy made a very nice logo and he worked very hard to make it. These are both great Decemberween- and Winter-themed logos, respectively, and I would like to see them both used. Four days of animated falling snow is a very short time, and it deserves at least that much. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:08, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yes, it's best that we don't let something like that go to waste. I suggest that we put it up now. Then change it to the Decemberween logo. And then after that we change it back to the falling snow one until after the New Years. Or we could just try that alternating thing...--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 05:24, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Just to clarify: I am calling the falling snow one the Decemberween one. The one It's dot com uploaded I would like to call Winter or Frozen, if I may. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:29, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Reverse what I said. Snow falling one, Decemberween one. The one that Dot com made, could be used until New Years.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 05:36, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
I think we should take BazookaJoe's suggestion (D'ween colors now; switch to the frozen one after Christmas). The fast falling snow just doesn't look right, so I think we should use the original D'ween one. I wish the one with the slower falling snow looked more like the smiling pose, but oh well. I'm sure it could be tweaked, but given the lateness of the month, I think we should do whatever we're gonna do right away. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:53, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

:Seconded. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:57, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey, that logo looks really nice, Fantastic. Definitely a good choice. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:14, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

:I concur. And the snowy field background is a nice touch. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:09, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
::Ha, love the Archibald in the What's new section. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:11, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Look closely at the other side as well. Adjust the size of your window if necessary. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:23, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

:What's up with the logo background? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 06:17, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Just kinda wonderin', when is the logo going to switch back to normal? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 21:23, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
:Probably in a day or two — though it could be up there until Janusry 6th when the [[Wikipedia:Twelve Days of Christmas|Twelve Days of Christmas]] are over. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 21:50, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
::I think the red bars on the main page should be a light icy color. But I like the logo thing! {{User:Ed smildE/signature}}

== Update ==
*There's a Store update for "Holiday Savings". --[[User:205.206.196.178|205.206.196.178]] 22:27, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks. I just updated the Front Page section at the [[Store]] page earlier today, but I didn't see any changes except for them moving their item list order around (see my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Store&diff=393135&oldid=389132 edit]). The latest changes are pretty well covered on the [[Main Page]], at the bottom of the "what's new" list. Is there anything that I'm missing? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 22:34, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

==Blockquotes for E-mails==
Hey, you should update the e-mail blockquotes to the most recent Strong Bad, found [[Talk:Strong Bad Evolution|here at the very bottom]]--[[User:X66x66|X66x66]] 01:04, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

== how long ==

How long has the server been down? This is the first time that I've been able to get through for awhile. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:47, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
:Around 12 hours or so. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:49, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
::down for maintenance, power outage, or server error? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:56, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Did it take out the Recent Changes IRC channel? 'Cause it's down. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:07, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
::::The RC bot must've gotten logged out. ...Which could be bad, potentially. I think Phlip runs it, and he won't be back 'til, like, January. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
So what exactly happened? Once I finally check the site again after a long absence the site goes down for <math>1/2</math> day not long after I got here! I promise it wasn't my fault! ;) But Seriously. Inquiring minds would like to know! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:00, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
:I remember hearing the phrase "blackout at Goleman" and something about "Fellowsites", but that's really all I know. *sweatdrop* --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Well, I said something like that but it was complete speculation. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:13, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

== Maybe it's just me... ==

Um, is the Decemberween Short Shorts image not coming up for anyone else, or is it just my computer? Everything else on the site is showing up, but on the main page and the page for Decemberween Short Shorts, the image is just not there. [[User:4kai2lyn6|kai lyn]] 17:03, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

:I see it, personally. It may just be you, there. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:04, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
::Dag, yo... [[User:4kai2lyn6|kai lyn]] 17:05, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
:::It's probably because your computer is blocking that image from showing. It's happened to me already on many pages.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 05:06, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
::::I think it's because it has "short shorts" in the title. You probably have parental settings on your computer that block that. My parents did it to me before, I couldn't get on the "Teen Girl Squad" pages. :) {{User:Salty/sig}} 06:03, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::Ack-haying the parental controls is easier than you might think. Sometimes, all you have to do is bypass them with a different browser. There are also other methods.--{{User:The4sword/sig}} 21:23, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

==Fansites==
Where did the page that lists the fansites go?-Jibney
:You mean [[Links]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== So many DVDs, so little time ==

Back when there was only a small number of DVDs it was simple. Now, with so many for sale, it's a little more confusing for the new fan to know where to find a particular toon on a DVD. For example, the article for [[The System is Down]] does indicate there is DVD commentary, but it does not list which DVD it is on. I'm thinking it easily could indicate that this toon is found on [[Everything Else, Volume 1]] in the article. Proposing, as a project for a few industious type people, that (1) somewhere in the article in some way (what that way is should be discussed) that the toon is available on a specific DVD, and/or (2) categories for the contents of each DVD be created.

I'm thinking we divide it down to the volume it's contained on. This means there are 4 strongbad_email.exe DVDs and 2 Everything Else DVDs currently. Thoughts, proposals and comments are welcome. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:34, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

:Ooh, yes. This needs doing. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:46, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

::Good idea — for the link to the specific DVD, I'm thinking of the heading, so instead of "DVD Version", change it to either "[[Everything Else, Volume 1|DVD]] Version" or "DVD Version ([[Everything Else, Volume 1]])". {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:51, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

:::Perhaps it should go up in the main headers. I think the name of the DVD should be spelled out, not hidden in a piped link. Whatever system we come up with, it needs to be easily expandable to incorporate future DVDs. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:54, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

::::Oh, so you mean something like this:
<div style="border:1px solid #CCC; padding:4px; margin: 0 8px; width: 45em">
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Homestar Runner]], [[Strong Bad]], [[Bubs]]

'''Places:''' [[Error Page]]

'''Date:''' January 22, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 1:05

'''Page Title:''' 404 Doodoo Error

'''DVD Version:''' [[Everything Else, Volume 1]]
</div>
::::That's a good idea too. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:06, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::I like Trey's format. I additionally volunteer to get a few done, when the time comes. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 00:31, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::With so many DVD's, I think that this fromat will come in handy. I don't really like "DVD Version" though. Maybe just plain "DVD"? I also offer my services when we put this in place. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:35, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
:I like the idea. I want to pair up both Trey's format and DVD-specific categories. One stipulation: Any toons that are not DVD-only could maybe have the '''DVD Version:''' line go directly underneath the "DVD Version" section. I also would like to split the categories ([[:Category:strongbad_email.exe DVD|[1]]], [[:Category:Everything Else DVD|[2]]]) into Category:strongbad_email.exe Disc 1; strongbad_email.exe Disc 2; strongbad_email.exe Disc 3; strongbad_email.exe Disc 4; Everything Else, Volume 1; and Everything Else, Volume 2. So maybe we should make a template similar to {{[[Template:Comp|Comp]]}} that will automagically include the category with the line. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:19, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
::Would '''DVD version''' be confused with regional formats? Is there a better wording? Maybe '''Included on DVD:'''? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:26, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
:::I was also thinking that '''DVD Version:''' could be confusing. I was thinking of just plain '''DVD:''', but whatever works. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:33, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Yeah, DVD is just vaguely specific enough to be perfect. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:37, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::'''DVD:''' works. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:39, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::Sounds good to me too. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:14, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::::/me likes it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:28, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::::We could have '''DVD:''' and '''DVD exclusive:''' to make it more obvious what kind of toon it is.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:35, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Great idea — that will make it clear which ones are web-only, DVD-only, and both. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:02, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

:Last thing to figure out before we make all the changes: does the "'''DVD:'''" heading go at the very top of the page (along with page title, running time, etc.), or underneath the "DVD Version" header? I say, put it at the very top of the page — that way you can see exactly where you can view the toon without having to read to the bottom. I know there are times in the past where I've had trouble figuring out on a page whether the toon could be viewed on the web or not. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:21, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

::What should the category be? "[Name of DVD] Features"? "[Name of DVD] Contents"? "[Name of DVD] Toons" doesn't seem to fit, because not everything is a toon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:32, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
:::Why even put Contents/Features into the category title? Isn't it implied? Could be. Someone comes across the category at the bottom of a toon's page and infers that that category has everything related to the DVD disc, including all other toons... because that toon is already in the category. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:47, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Yes, I think that's a good idea. See the {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=400857 current sandbox}}. In addition, I think the encompassing categories need to be changed to '''strongbad_email.exe DVD series''' and '''Everything Else DVD series''' (or with '''Series''' capitalized in both cases) instead of just '''DVD'''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:46, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::I like the ideas and everything, but why do we need the word "series" for? I like the plain name categories more. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:47, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::Because Everything Else isn't just one DVD, and neither is strongbad_email.exe. They are each a series of DVDs, and the category name should reflect that. [[:Category:Everything Else DVD|These]] [[:Category:strongbad_email.exe DVD|two]] categories are the ones I'm suggesting need a name change. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:08, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Lest we forget - is there further discussion needed here, or should a plan of action ensue? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:46, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

::::::::The two things that I'm not sure whether we decided are (1) does the data go at the top of the page or under "DVD Version"? and (2) what should the names of the categories be? I haven't been following the second question, but as soon as we figure out the first question, we can start adding in the templates (cats can be sorted out as the templates are being added). I think the consensus has been leaning towards the top of the page, but it's not entirely clear to me. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:18, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Top sounds good. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::::::I also think that makes the most sense. That way the reader can see from the very top of the page whether the toon is web-only, DVD-only, or both. I'm gonna get started on adding the templates to the sbemails. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:24, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::Gotta be the top, that's where people would look. And I'm for sub-categories. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:25, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay, the template has been added to the four [[strongbad_email.exe]] disks, which the exception of a few issues we found while looking through the bonus features:
:{{done}} Standardize headings for [[Email Intros]]
:{{done}} Standardize headings for [[Scroll Button Songs (video)]]
:{{done}} Standardize headings for [[KaraokeFun#strongbad_email.exe_Disc_Two|strongbad_email.exe Disc Two Karaoke videos]]
:{{done}} Standardize headings for [[Secret Song (video)]]
:{{done}} Create [[Moving Very Slowly (video)]]
:{{done}} Create [[The Cheatar (making of)]] — title may not be best, check with DVD first
:{{done}} Check out the The Cheatar egg on [[strongbad email.exe Disc Two]]. Anything more to do here?
:{{todo}} Make sure the right thing was done in keeping the titles on the [[strongbad_email.exe]] bonus features.
Next up: [[Everything Else]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:18, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
:I think we need to create the category pages for this project. I like the way it is now (the name of the category is the name of the disc). And I still think that [[:Category:Everything Else, Volume 1]] and [[:Category:Everything Else, Volume 2]] need to go in [[:Category:Everything Else DVD Series]] (or something similar, instead of what we currently have, which is just plain "DVD"), to emphasize the fact that it's not just one DVD, but several in a set. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:23, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
::I'll do it. I love category-making. What should it say in description? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I've also noticed that a lot of these pages need to have the obsolete categories ''removed'', but so far they haven't been. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:44, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
*I'm a little late on this, but I finished all of the Everything Else DVD templates. Glad to help out. {{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 06:51, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

== Wii ==

Just letting you peoples know both the main site and this wiki run on nintendo Wii's opera browser problem free ('cept for the popup easter eggs but that can't be helped). [[User:220.245.178.136|220.245.178.136]] 10:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
:What?? {{User:The thing/sig}} 14:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
::He's saying that both this site and [[HR:|homestarrunner.com]] work with the Wii's [[Wikipedia:Internet Channel (Wii)|Internet Channel]]. Although I already [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=396936 figured this out a couple of weeks ago]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 14:18, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

== Somethin new... ==
I don't remember if this was there b4, but if you rollover Quote of the week, and that stuff, the name of the fanstuff is shown right below it. Was this there before? ~Strong Devon {{unsigned|63.230.104.26|21:19, 7 January 2007}}

:Yeah, I remember that happening before, I don't think it's new. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

== New update ==

Weeklies ave been updated. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 16:18, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

== Background ==

It looks like the background is a JPG. At first I thought it was that way because of mediawiki, but during the holidays, the background was most certainly a PNG. Is there a reason, or should it be changed? - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:36, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

== Update ==
*There's a store update for a "Trogday" sale. --[[User:205.206.196.178|205.206.196.178]] 22:35, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 22:53, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

== HELP ==
I forgot my password so I can't log in! My username is X66x66--[[User:68.100.182.44|68.100.182.44]] 04:13, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
:I've set your email address to the one you used at the forum. You should be able to send yourself a new password using the [[Special:Userlogin|login form]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:37, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks for the e-mail! I got in finally.--{{User:X66x66/sig}} 23:18, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

== Update ==
new main page message, Sbemails Return Next Week.

== Little Question ==

Is [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=10623 this] relevant to the wiki, or is it too soon to tell? I'm pretty sure it's genuine. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 01:16, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

:I wouldn't say it deserves it's own page, but I'd say it's certainly worth a mention on the [[Craig Zobel]] article. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 02:20, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

::I've added it in the meantime ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:39, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

== Okay, this has gone tooooooooo far. ==

You keep using [[Wikipedia:Parody|that word]] waayyyyyyyyy toooooooooooo muuuuuuuuuuuuch, even when other words like "spoof" or "reference" would be appropriate. I swear that if you looked it up in the Dictionary of the HRWiki, it'd say "See GOD" right next to it. Honestly, you use it like it's the Bible or something. This website alone is what made me consider that word in the league with "da**" and "sh**". Please change as many instances of this word as possible. {{unsigned|76.184.188.124|13:12, 16 January 2007 (UTC)}}

:Just to be clear, you're griping about the word [http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/parody parody], corrcect? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:18, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

::according to [http://dictionary.reference.com/ dictionary.com]
::*Parody: any humorous, satirical, or burlesque imitation, as of a person, event, etc.
::*Spoof: a mocking imitation of someone or something, usually light and good-humored; lampoon or '''parody'''.
::according to [http://thesaurus.reference.com/ thesaurus.com]
::*Synonyms of parody: caricature, farce, girlie show, lampoon, lampoonery, mock, mockery, parody, pastiche, peep show, revue, satire, send-up, sham, skin show, '''spoof''', strip, takeoff, travesty
::*Synonyms of Spoof: bluff, bon mot, burlesque, caricature, cheat, deceit, deception, fake, flimflam, game, hoax, imposture, jest, joke, lampoon, mockery, '''parody''', phony, prank, put-on, quip, satire, sell, send-up*, sham, take-off, travesty, trickery, wisecrack
::{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:11, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
::::[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Search&ns0=1&ns9=1&ns11=1&redirs=0&searchx=1&search=parody&limit=500&offset=0 Parody] pops up on 109 pages on this wiki. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Search&ns0=1&ns9=1&ns11=1&redirs=0&searchx=1&search=spoof&limit=500&offset=0 Spoof] has 34 sightings. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Search&ns0=1&ns9=1&ns11=1&redirs=0&searchx=1&search=reference&limit=500&offset=0 Reference] has 423 appearances, and almost all of those aren't just "Inside/Real-World References" headers. If anything "reference" is overused here... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:22, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think we should replace all instances of parody with girlie show or bon mot. Or maybe not. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:37, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::If you're going to gripe, gripe about something worth griping about. Perhaps the overuse of the clause "in the Homestar Runner universe" starting non-transcript articles. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 15:39, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::::[http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&lr=&cof=&domains=www.hrwiki.org&q=in+the+Homestar+Runner+universe&btnG=Search&sitesearch=www.hrwiki.org There are a lot of that]. Personally I like, the Homestar Runner universe because the only alternative would be to used website or homestarrunner.com which are both tacky. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:43, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

== Dividing Transcripts ==

Warning! Radical idea alert! I've been thinking we should add subsections to the Transcripts in our cartoon articles. I'm fully aware that this ''sounds'' a lot simpler than it will really be, if we choose to do it. To better describe what I'm thinking, I've put an example in the {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=405208 Sandbox}}. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 17:09, 16 January 2007
:I think it's a good try, but I don't think there's enough of a benefit to justify doing it, not even counting the fact that it would clutter up the table of contents. I personally feel that the transcripts are hard to read, but I just don't think this particular method is the solution. (Unfortunately, I'm still at a loss for what the solution might be, though that didn't stop me from {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=405224 trying something out}} myself.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:44, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

==main page c==
TBC finally changed the copyright date from 2006 to 2007. Thank god. [[User:Strong Devon|Strong Devon]] 03:59, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks, that's been [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Pages&diff=404761&oldid=402342 noted]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:09, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

== H*R Reference In New Book ==
I just started reading the latest from one of my favorite authors, Orson Scott Card. It's called ''Empire'', and page 19 begins thusly:

'''"My head a-''splode''," said one of the wittier students, and everyone laughed again.'''

Can it be agreed upon that this is a bonafied reference? I was wondering if there's a place on this website to record this type of thing. -[[User:TDK|TDK]] 14:57, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

:It sounds like a direct reference to me. It would go on one of the [[Sightings]] pages, probably [[Other Sightings]], since we don't have a [[Book Sightings]] page. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:45, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

::Same here. I think it's a reference. {{User:Theyellowdart/sig}}
:::I don't think TBC ''got'' it from this, but it's definetly a reference. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 03:41, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Uh, if TBC got it from something, they would be referring to it. We're looking at a sighting here, not a reference. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:18, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

== Edit Conflicts Noted in Summaries and Posts ==

Can I just mention how un-useful some edit summaries are? I mean, it's good that you use an edit summary, but we should always try to make them meaningful.

Specifically, stuff like "Edit Conflict x2" or similar are not good edit summaries. We all get them, big deal. What is the '''nature''' of the edit you finally got on the wiki? A typo fix? A reply? An agreement/disagreement? I'm not intending to point to anyone in particular - I see these often from a lot of people.

On a tangental but related topic: what is the purpose of inticating in '''bold letters''' at the start of a Talk post that you were edit conflicted? Is there a meaningful reason to do this that I'm missing? Or is just unnecessary clutter on the page? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:21, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:I think it was doing that automatically._[[User:LordQuackingstick|LordQuackingstick]] 00:23, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::I think the only time you need to mention being edit conflicted is if your message has changed because of what's mentioned when you got conflicted. Or something. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::If, as a result of an edit conflict, my talk post doesn't follow the one immediately preceding it, I usually mark it as an edit conflict so people know that the post was meant to come right after a different post than it actually comes after. Otherwise, it's not really necessary. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:28, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::::On the other point: Using "edit conflict" as an edit summary is not so useful. It doesn't let one know anything about the nature of your edit. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:30, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::I concur with both of Heimstern's points. (even if I did the second recently) - {{User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C/Sig}} 00:32, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Wouldn't saying "In response to Heimstern's 00:28 post" (as I am here) be a more clear way to indicate this than mentioning the edit conflict? I mean, in this case, my post is separated from the one I want to reply to since other posts have occurred and there's no convenient way to insert this into the above without disrupting other trains of thought, not due to an edit conflict. Why not take a similar route with edit-conflicted replies, which are essentially subject to that exact same issue? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:47, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::I've {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:secret_identity&diff=prev&oldid=247637 been saying this}} for {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki_talk:FAQ&diff=prev&oldid=207752 a while now}}. Noting an edit conflict in the actual wiki text should be a last resort. Upon being edit-conflicted, one should ask, does my post still flow with the other posts? Does the fact that I got a conflict need to be pointed out? Is there any way I can rephrase what I wrote to make it fit better? Yes, rephrasing does take a little more time and effort, and occasionally someone beats you to the punch and says what you were going to say. When that happens to me, sometimes I just let the other person's post speak for me. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:49, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::Qermaq: I don't think it's even necessary to be that verbose. I often just address the person I'm replying to, like here, when I'm replying to the last post a person made. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:53, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Fully agreed, in most cases that level of precision would not be needed. But I wanted to illustrate how simple it would be, and how much more meaning it brings to a post than noting that the edit faced a conflict. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:56, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
==Virus==
Hey, what's with the virus pic all over da place? Is it possible that we have a haxor among us?--[[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]]

Talk:Main Page

2007-01-27T20:08:15Z

Marvelrulez:

Talk:Game Sightings

2007-01-01T14:38:04Z

Marvelrulez:

==In case you were wondering==
This here's the 1,000th page.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:48, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

:<s>Tom, you're a step ahead of me. I came here to make a similar note. I'm not sure I ever imagined we'd reach a thousand articles back when I started this wiki. Good jorb, everyone! — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 21:19, 12 May 2005 (UTC)</s>

Actually, this isn't the thousandth page. A few pages that were created before this one have since been deleted, making [[Fonts]] the official thousandth article. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

:Sorry, but yeah it is. See my comment at [[Talk:Fonts#Thousandth article]] for clarification. I'm also going to remove the strike-though that was added to my comment above, since I didn't retract it or anything like that.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

== Albino Blacksheep ==

In a new Flash game on albinoblacksheep.com, parodying Everquest, one of the characters has a "Summoning" ability which can be used to summon Trogdor the Burninator. I'm not sure, however, if this should go under Games or Animation...
:Well it's a game, so it should go under games. Makes sense to me. {{User:phlip/sig}} 00:46, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Kay then. I will. thanks.

Ok, not sure if this counts as a good enough sighting or not, but in World of Warcraft there is possible another sighting, in the Barrens there is an Ogre called Jorb. Do you think this counts? - P

== Delete Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas? ==

''Driving around Las Venturas, one can find a "Bub's Hardware." The sign also seems to say something about "Cheats." A map is included here.''

*This seems like a stretch. All the other examples are clear references, or at least very likely to be, but this one could easily be pure coincidence. Anybody else think it should be deleted? {{User:Bill/sig}} 21:59, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
:I noticed this a while ago, too. I'm pretty sure it's a total stretch. Bub and Cheat are common words. It's not even "Bubs", it's "Bub". - {{User:Joshua/sig}}
::And I think I'ma go delete that now. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 20:20, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

POLL:

Delete it:
#{{User:Bill/sig}}
#{{User:Joshua/sig}}
#{{User:Bassium!/sig}}
#{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}}
#{{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}}
#{{User:Bubsty/sig}}
Keep it:

== Warcraft III reference ==

there's a reference of trogdor in WCIII:TFT. can we add it?
:Do you have the details of the sighting? If possible, Can someone confirm? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:18, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

I wrote that, Its in level three one of the guards is called trogdor--[[User:Ed500|Ed500]] 08:30, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

heres the picture

http://starbase.globalpc.net/~bhz/strongbad/images/trogdar.jpg

does it count?

It is only one letter off (a/o), and too much of a coincidence if one, so I think it does.
-Zyborg

== Xgen reference ==

theres a TGS reference when you play stick arena

(username) iron chef'd (username)

can it count?--[[User:Ed500|Ed500]] 07:06, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Probably, if it isn't a player. If it is a CPU, then I would think so.
-Zyborg

It does. There is no AI and this applies for anyone who kills someone with a katana. there a 1 in 3 chance of that popping up. [[User:Ed500|Ed500]]

==American Wasteland Squad!==
Okay, is this a real sighting? Either the producers of the game were obsessed with TGS, [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] helped design the game, or the entry is bogus. Can some one help me out? -[[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]] 22:33, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:I have no way of proving it for you, but it doesn't sound too unlikely to me. Mostly because of the "Late 360" etc., which was a skateboarding allusion to begin with. And the sightings in the other Tony Hawk game above add credibility. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:39, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
::I actually have the game myself, so I should probably play it and see for myself before complaining. (Side note: I actually noticed the Limozeen sighting in THUG 1, but i thought it coincidence. -[[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]] 22:41, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

== Vampire the Masquerade:Bloodlines ==

When buying fuel for the flame thrower, the fuel is called "Burninator brand".-Hitokiri Akins

==Kingdom Hearts II ==

In Kingdom Hearts II, when fighting the Hydra, there is a reaction command called Urninator. This is only one letter off from Burninator. Think I should add it?
- Zyborg 4/13/06
(Edit: The strategy guide said Everybody to the Limit, not the manual. Although, the strategy guide is most likely official. I'll add the Urninator to the page, delete if necessary.)

I checked Amazon for strategy guides for Kingdom Hearts II. I found out that the guide is made by BradyGames, not Square Enix(the company that makes KH2). The Everybody to the Limit reference in the strategy guide should really go under books instead.

Though I think the Urninator reference might be legit. The Hydra ''is'' a dragon, just like ol' Troggie.
:[[Other Sightings]], then. We don't have a "books" section. Maybe magazines? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Killer7 ==

*I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is NOT a reference; seeing as Gouichi Suda has an obsession with lucha libre in general, it's not surprising that Yoon-Hyun's mask looks like Strong Bad's. It's a coincidence. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:52, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

== Fully Ramblomatic ==

Two of the games on this site have obvious H*R refernces. First off, Adventures in the Galaxy of Fantabulous Wonderment has one of them. About a third of the way through the game, one of your redshirts is zapped by a lazer security system thing and says, "Ow! My most of me!"

Secondly, the special edition of 7 Days a Skeptic. If you go to the captain's console and type in 'Pasta Sauce', it shows a "How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves" email. Remember, this is the special edition and does not work with the normal one.

Figured you guys would want to know

:Well, in that case, add them onto the article. You're welcome to do so. This is why we have a wiki! {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:26, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

== SSBM ==

Can someone confirm this? I honestly don't think it's real, Homestar had a small fanbase at the time of its release.

==toontown==

in toontown online 1 of the npc in donalds dock wants you to call him choche(sp?) z.
any iders?

== Alchmist's Apprentice ==

There's a new online game called [http://fizzlebot.com/gdc1/cgdc1.php?puzzleID=7 Alchemist's Apprentice] that has an item called "whatsit" described thusly: "This soft, sticky, stinky substance is an excellent fertilizer and chief projectile weapon of simians."

I've never heard reference to "whatsit" outside of HomestarRunner.com, but I could be wrong, and I don't know how to properly edit this page. Is this a reference?

== Guitar Hero II ==
Wait until it comes out. Mmm... I CAN'T WAIT THAT LONG!!!

:Actually, I just found undeniable, unquestionable proof that justifies adding GHII to the list before release. And that...is video footage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKW5ngFNHJo&mode=user&search=

::See [[Trogdor (song)#Trivia]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:05, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
==Dead Rising Decline==
Dead Rising's HomeRunner's Shoes is more of a reference to the baseball term, rather than Homestar Runner.--[[User:Reign of Trogdor|Reign of Trogdor]] 05:25, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

== Diner Dash - Flo on the Go ==
[[Image:Diner_dash_3_-_everybody_to_the_limit.png|thumb|To the limit AND the moon]]
well i saw this while i was checking out the secret levels for this game...

will this count?
:I'd buy it. Between the [[Everybody To The Limit]] and [[personal favourites|the moon]] refs, it sounds plausible. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==H*R Shirt==

A character in Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam xears a top suspiciously similar to Homestar's. Since the other Tony game-sightings, will this count? [[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]]

:Depends. What's the shirt look like? Any webpage where we can see it? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 18:55, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[http://reviews.cnet.com/Tony_Hawk_s_Downhill_Jam_Wii/4528-9993_7-31884289-7.html?tag=ssht The best I could find.] [[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]]

2006-10-27T14:07:29Z

Marvelrulez: /* WHoa skin */

{{Main Page Talk}}

__FORCETOC__

== Suggestion ==

In the "Preferences" page, the user is prompted to offer their "Nickname". I know of at least one example where a user has thought this meant "put whatever you like here". But of course we expect that what's put in "Nickname" will be the same as or very close to the user's username. Any chance we can reword that so new users will know how to create [[HRWiki:Signature|policy-compliant]] signatures? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:17, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
:I don't know, I've never minded users going by a name other than their username as long as they're consistent about it and the "nickname" isn't taken. However, that doesn't mean I necessarily encourage doing that, because it can get confusing at times — especially for us RecentChanges junkies. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 07:20, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
::Well, we have asked people to change their nicks before, because they were either offensive or something like MattChapman. I think it's a good idea to give a few hints as to what's acceptable and encouraged.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:36, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
:I remember back when I joined, I thought that "Nickname" was simply for "What shall we address you by other than your user name?". Perhaps the code can be altered to say "[[Help:Signature|Signature]]" or something of the like. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 15:21, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
::At 'Kipedia it ''does'' already say "Signature" rather than nickname, and this seems to be a lot more logical to me. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:41, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::I would also prefer it to say "Signature". When I was young it caused me to experience confusion when typing four tildes created "Salty" rather than "Lappy 486" (my old username). I thought it just added it to some type of profile users have like on a forum. {{User:Salty/sig}} 00:47, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

== Template help! ==

I am trying to make two templates for my site [psupedia.org] (looks like a combination of the H*R Wiki and the English Wiki) but I can't get them to stand side-by-side. Whenever I try to do them, they merge together in a big ugly mess. Can someone please help me out that ? : )

<nowiki>{|style="border-spacing:2px;margin:2px 2px"
|style="width:0%;border:2px solid #ACE1AF;background-color:#f5fffa;vertical-align:top;color:#000"|
{|width="80%" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#f5fffa"
! [[Image:News headliner.PNG]]
|-
! <h2 style="margin:0;background:#50C878;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #ACE1AF;
text-align:left;color:#fff;padding:0.1em 0.2em;">PSU
|-
|style="color:#000"|'''Remember: ''[[News|All registered users can edit the news]]!'''''
 [[Image:US_Bullet.PNG]] [[Image:US_UK_Bullet.PNG]]
|-
! <h3 style="margin:0;background:#50C878;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #ACE1AF;
text-align:left;color:#fff;padding:0.1em 0.2em;">PSUPedia
|-
|style="color:#000"|The PSUP
|-

{|style="border-spacing:2px;margin:2px 2px"
|style="width:0%;border:2px solid #ADD8E6;background-color:#f5faff;vertical-align:top;color:#000"|
{|width="80%" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="5" style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#f5faff"
! [[Image:Featured Articles headliner.PNG]]
|-
! <h2 style="margin:0;background:#4169E1;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #ADD8E6;
text-align:left;color:#fff;padding:0.1em 0.2em;">PSU
|-
|style="color:#000"|</nowiki>

If you would like to, you can post it in [http://psupedia.org/index.php?title=User_talk:SAsim my talk page] or this IP's one if you are willing to help, it might be easier on my site because the images I have in the code are enabled and I don't think this site would like having that. I expect you guys are very good with coding and you could finish it up soon, because my neck is probably on the line with the site admin there! hehe. [[User:68.194.9.27|68.194.9.27]] 17:03, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

:Upon first glance, it appears you've forgotten to close all four of your "tables", and that they are all nested within each other, creating a big mess. I'd recommend checking out [[Help:Table]] for information on how to use tables properly. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 17:29, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

:Thanks Lapper, wish I asked sooner. :P Also sorry if I ruined the page a little, my other edit make the width larger than it should be. [[User:68.194.9.27|68.194.9.27]] 17:34, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

::It's fine, I've broken it down so that it doesn't overflow. And you're very welcome. Good luck. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 17:36, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

:::Ugh, I tried it again using the help guide and your advice but it's still merging. I closed the tables and I tried variations to replace the '!'s with '|'s and '|+'. I tried a lot of variations and it still isn't changing. :( [[User:68.194.9.27|68.194.9.27]] 18:29, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

::::[[User:Lapper#User Quotes|Drop me a line]] around 21:00 utc. We'll work it out together. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 14:34, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

==Halloween skin cont'd==
''Note: continued from [[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 15]]''

Well, given that [[coloring]] is not a pre-Halloween toon, changing the skin is a little less urgent. We don't have to put the skin up for a couple more days, unless you guys + Dot com are ready to go. And from what's written on the wiki, some things are not entirely agreed upon yet. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:I'm agreed on whatever you want to do. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Punkin stencil rotation in the upper right corner? Official site link logo change to uncarved pumpakin? We will use [[:Image:Wikiween.png]] (sorry you didn't see that, FireBird). The orange and gray main page tables look awesome. Do we have our spooky forest silhouette? Is Dot com ready to go when we are ready (I think I know the answer)? Is All On? Hafta go bafroom? =3? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, they just released a [[Malloween Commercial|Malloween]] Podstar, so I guess they're all up in the Halloween season. Why aren't we? D= --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Canada $$ ==

Could someone please send TBC an email about quotes in CAD not USD. I would but my email is down rright now so thanks
:Why the urgency? Oh, for the Canadian Decemberween sale? You can [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=1+USD+%3D+%3F+CAD&btnG=Search use] Google or another website to convert USD to CAD. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:20, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

==subtitles==
The [[HRwiki:Subtitles|subtitles]] project has become very big, and I think that it deserves it's own link on the main page, as it's actually pretty hard to find otherwise. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:24, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:It's currently linked from [[HRWiki:The Stick]], and there are links to the subtitles scripts on every toon article (on the left hand side, under the "external links" box). But most people will probably not have noticed this. I don't know how it would fit on the main page, though.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:30, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
::I was thinking under Miscellany...- {{User:The Joe/sig}} 00:37, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:::The main page is generally for Homestar-only content. The Stick is for Wiki and community created content. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 13:33, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I'd really like to have some kind of "Did you know?" message available to the public informing them of the use of subtitles, once the project is mostly complete & well checked. Otherwise, not many people are going to notice or benefit from your hard work. This is definitely worth main page inclusion, but it should be noted in a novel yet appropriate way. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:53, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

== Matt's Birthday coming up ==

What are we planning on doing for Matt's birthday (11/1). It's a week or so away and I think it would be neat if we did something so that we all can be involved. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 09:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:That would be cool — I can't think of anything; any ideas? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 10:24, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
::I was thinking about making up a huge card and have everyone submit a message by jpg or png to a central person such as JoeyDay, Tom, or It's dot com. Then have that person compile all the meassages and take it to a Kinkos and have them print it on a large poster board and then mail it to them. I would be glad to contribute via paypal to the cost of printing and mailing this card and I think others would too. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:18, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:::The forum guys [[Forum:5751|did that last year]]... they just emailed it to him, I think. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:23, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I never got to sign that card. It sounded like a good idea, though. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 12:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::Email is okay, but I think it would neat to snail mail a card this year. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::Well, we'd better hurry, then, whatever it is. :( —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
[[Image:Matt's card.png|thumb|Idea]]
:::::::I was thinking about something like this →
:::::::I think whoever lives the closest to GA should be the one to mail to allow for the shortest postal delivery time (although I can do it if no one else...I live in VA) {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
That sounds good if you are willing to get it fancy printed and a-spensive mailed. Or someone else can still volunteer. I think, as a suggestion, people should include their location, parts of real name, nickname, and an optional note, like this: 
::''(Note)''
:''Cort "BazookaJoe" S.''
::''Michigan''
—[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 14:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:This does sound like something that would be better suited to be discussed on Forum though... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:31, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

::I agree with Phlip. This really isn't something that has to do with collecting and organizing information about Homestar Runner, it's more of a community activity type thing. Someone want to start a thread there and post the link here? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Except that this would be something that would come from the wiki community, not the forum community. If it was on the forum regular wiki users such as myself would not see it. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Phlip, Tom, I don't agree with you. The forum and wiki communities are different. I'm not part of the forum as well as some forumers not part of the wiki. I would love to sign a message from the '''wiki''' people, as I missed the one from last year. I R F: You have my full support. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I'm agreeing with E.L. Cool, here; I don't have an account on the forum, and besides, this is an HRWiki proposal, not an HRWikiForum one. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 17:16, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::Agree. This is a wiki birthday card. The forumers did their own card last year. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:19, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

In order to reduce recent changes flooding, it would probably be a good idea for all those who wish to send Matt a happy birthday to e-mail the designated card-maker. The card maker will update the image with well-wishes and signatures once he or she receives a good amount of e-mails. In order not to leave some semi-active wiki users in the dust, I suggest we post a advisory on [[Template:recentchangesnotice]]. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:I'd be willing to volunteer to make the graphic, but if we do choose to go snail-mail I'm not certainly sending it from here... it's probably too late to send it by snail mail anyway if we want it to arrive in time... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 20:50, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
::I'd be willing to print it out and mail it. If we print it out and have it priority mailed by Saturday (10/28) morning, that should be enough time, right? Also, I do live in Illinois, so it may be better if someone closer does it... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:57, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:::If it gets dropped into First Class mail a couple of states away on early Monday morning, it could possibly make it to Decatur by Nov 1 if we are lucky. Otherwise it would be Nov 2. Or, somebody from any state could shed a few extra dollars, send it through Priority Mail, and have it make it by Nov 1 for sure. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:57, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
::::With Priority Mail, I think we should send it out on Saturday at the latest. With Express Mail, we could get away with Monday (although that's very expensive). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::Edit conflicted: Oh wait, they would have to Priority it on Saturday in order to be 100% sure that it will make it by Wednesday. I think it's pretty likely to make it by Wednesday if someone in a nearby state sends it Priority early Monday morning. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:02, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::That's true (for some reason I was thinking that Nov. 1 was on Tuesday). And mailing it on Monday will give more time for us to gather enough signatures to fill up the page. Well, Virginia's pretty close to Georgia — what do you think Invisible Robot Fish? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:19, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Sure, if no one else is closer I can send it on monday. I will go to the store tomorrow and check out shipping and display options. I have both a paypal account and a UPS account so I could send it out from work on Monday easy. The more I was thinking about this, the more low-tech I am thinking. I was think about buying some poster board, perhaps making it look like the one from [[caffeine]] and print out all of your sigs and glue them on the board. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
We should start spreading the word and collecting signatures soon. There are only so many days left. I suggest we use BazookaJoe's template for the signatures. IRF, as the card maker, you would be the best person to collect the sigs. Would you prefer to get them by email or on your talk page? Are you planning to print them out in colour or black and white? Should we have a rough guideline about the size of the signatures? (oh, still so many questions){{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:21, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:Color is fine. If you just want to sign via text, use my [[User_talk:Invisible_Robot_Fish|talk page]]. If you have a graphic or image for your sig, post your link on my talk page but please adhear to the [[HRWiki:Image_use_policy|image use policiy]]. Size doesn't matter because I will size them to all fit. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 23:09, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

:::I'd Like to sign it--[[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]]

== Little thing that's bugging me: ==

Can someone remove the " (English)" from the [[Wikipedia:OpenSearch|OpenSearch]] description of the search engine? I understand why it would be useful at a multi-lingual Wiki like Wikipedia, but it seems a bit unnecessary for this site... --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 22:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

== WHoa skin ==

This skin is awexome and all, who made it? But it's hurting my eyes SO MUCH! Could we also possibly have a Decemberween skin too? --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 10:45, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

:Pretty cool, huh? The discussion and people involved can be found [[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 15#Halloween skin|here]] and [[Talk:Main Page#Halloween skin cont.27d|here]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 10:59, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

::How about a D'ween logo a little like this:[[Dween_wiki.PNG]]

Talk:Main Page

2006-10-27T14:07:05Z

Marvelrulez: /* WHoa skin */

Talk:Main Page

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Marvelrulez: /* WHoa skin */