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Sickly Sam's Big Outing

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[[Image:Sickly Sam's Big Outing.PNG|thumb|Based on the vaudeville stylings of Wibe Chimendez]]
The Homestar Runner helps Sickly Sam get ready for a date. In ''a'' color!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Mr. Shmallow]], {{film|The Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Old-Timey Marzipan}}, {{film|Sickly Sam}}, {{film|Old-Timey Strong Bad}}, [[Unnamed Characters|The Rest]], {{film|Strong Man}}, {{film|The Sneak}}, [[Fort Wayne Locomotive]], {{film|Old-Timey Bubs}}, [[Dee]]

'''Places:''' "Skid Row", Someone's House, [[The Football Field]], [[Saw Mill]], The Boardwalk, Inside Sickly Sam, [[Glue Factory|The Glue Factory]]

'''Date:''' Monday, February 11, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 4:47

'''Page Title:''' Listen Up Short Children!!

==Transcript==
''{Open on a shot of an old-timey radio. As the announcer talks, cartoon lightning bolts fly out of the speakers.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover}'' Listen up, short children!

''{Cut to a title card for "Fluffy Puff Air-Puffed Sugar Delights Presents The Homestar Runner Progrum", with Mr. Shmallow dancing in the middle of the screen.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover}'' It's the Fluffy Puff Air-Puffed Sugar Delights Presents The Homestar Runner Progrum! In ''a'' color!

''{A speech bubble reading "A COLOR!" in pink appears, pointing to Mr. Shmallow. Iris wipe to a title shot of each character as the announcer introduces them.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover}'' Featuring The Homestar Runner!

'''AUDIENCE:''' ''{cheers}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover}'' His best gal, Marzipan!

'''AUDIENCE:''' ''{cheers}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover}'' Diseased orphan, Sickly Sam!

'''AUDIENCE:''' ''{gasps}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover}'' Dapper thousandaire, Strong Bad!

'''AUDIENCE:''' ''{boos}''

''{The last title shot features a robot, an alien, and an eel-like creature.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover}'' And the rest!

'''AUDIENCE:''' Huh?

'''ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover}'' Today's shenanigans: Sickly Sam's Big Outing!

''{Title card for the toon features Sickly Sam chasing three pink-colored hearts, with the text "Sickly Sam's Big Outing" and "Based on the Vaudeville Stylings of Wibe Chimendez". Open on The Homestar Runner and Marzipan walking down an empty street. The windows and doors of the houses they pass are broken and boarded up, and there are many cracks in the walls and the road.}''

'''OLD-TIMEY MARZIPAN:''' This must be skid row.

''{They keep walking, and come upon a large box labelled "SOME HAMS".}''

'''OLD-TIMEY MARZIPAN:''' This must be skid ro—

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Wake up, Sickly Sam. Today's the first day of the day of your big outing.

''{Sickly Sam exits the box.}''

'''OLD-TIMEY MARZIPAN:''' Up and at 'em.

''{Sickly Sam coughs twice, making dust clouds with the words "AS-" and then "ASBESTOS".}''

'''OLD-TIMEY MARZIPAN:''' You need some dentifrice!

''{Behind Homestar and Marzipan is a garbage can with eyeholes. Cartoony eyes stick out of these holes as Homestar says the next line.}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' If you're s'pose go on a big outing, we need to find you up a hot date.

''{Zoom in on the can with foreboding music, then cut to inside the can, where Strong Bad, Strong Man and The Sneak are present.}''

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' So, that dead kid needs a hot date, eh? The only date he has is with the glue factory! ''{musical sting}'' Which I will sell him to! ''{musical sting}'' For money! ''{musical sting}''

''{cut to a room with The Homestar Runner and Sickly Sam inside}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' First we gotta do something about that old 'tatoe sack.

''{The door is knocked}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh oh, the doorbe—''{the scene quickly cuts to the same spot; however, The Homestar Runner's entire body is turned towards the door}'' There's a knock at the door.

''{The Homestar Runner opens the door. The Sneak is on the other side, holding up a telegram.}''

'''THE SNEAK:''' Whaaaaaaaaa telegraaam!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thanks, The Sneak. Boot!

''{The Homestar Runner boots The Sneak off into the distance}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' This Honest Telegram says to meet your hot date down at the Boardwalk.

''{The telegram is displayed in The Homestar Runner's hands.}''

<blockquote>HONEST TELEGRAM
 
Dearest Dead Kid (stop)
Please meet for good times (stop)
at the Boardwalk. (stop)
 
-Hottessa Date
</blockquote>

'''SICKLY SAM:''' Am I gonna make romance?

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{placing a bow tie on Sickly Sam}'' Now let's get you dressed to the five and three-quarterses.

'''SICKLY SAM:''' I do believe you've spic'd my span.

''{The bow tie turns into a vampire bat and flies away with a Dracula-esque "bleh". Sickly Sam is now in a room with Marzipan, and the "Do a Dance" music is playing.}''

'''OLD-TIMEY MARZIPAN:''' Come on, Jackson! Cut yourself a slice of rug! Let's turn those skeleton knees into bees' knees!

''{Sickly Sam starts doing the Charleston. After a short time his legs fall off, but he keeps dancing for a few seconds until his body falls to the ground. Sickly Sam is now on the football field with The Homestar Runner and Fort Wayne Locomotive.}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Say there, Fort Wayne Locomotive, how's about a pep talk? Double-S here's about to go on his first date with a member of the opposite per-suasion.

'''FORT WAYNE LOCOMOTIVE:''' Well, I tell ya, Sickle Cell, when it comes to the ladies, you gotta turn and run the other way, like you're facin' the defense of the ''{holding flag}'' Sheboygan Booteaters! Dames is trouble! T-R-U-double-E-Bubble! ''{the camera zooms in as he spells "trouble", and the letters appear at the bottom of the screen as he says them}'' Hut one, hut two, and a hike!

''{Fort Wayne Locomotive hands a football to Sickly Sam and runs away, shouting gibberish. The football deflates in Sickly Sam's hands, and The Homestar Runner begins to walk away. Sickly Sam and The Homestar Runner are now in front of Bubs's cart, labeled "The Depot on Wheels!", with a handwritten sign reading "Fowlers 8bits/doz."}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You're almost ready, Sickly Sam. Last thing you need is a reaaaaaaaaaaal... ''{The Homestar Runner's body begins to spin and his legs twist, pushing him upward. The camera zooms out as he keeps going up and off the panel, and he then abruptly snaps back down to the ground.}'' ...bouquet.

'''OLD-TIMEY BUBS:''' Take a whiff.

''{He holds the bouquet in front of Sickly Sam. He takes a whiff, causing the flowers to combust into flames and set the rest of the flowers on fire. The entire film catches fire and burns away from the screen. The soundtrack cuts out abruptly, and after a couple of seconds of white screen, the scene cuts to Strong Bad laughing evilly as The Homestar Runner and Marzipan, tied up, slowly move along a conveyor belt toward a giant spinning sawblade. The scene then disappears and we see Sickly Sam, wearing a little hat with a flower on it, holding a box of 'Chockle,' standing on a wooden boardwalk, with a Coney-Island-style amusement park on a pier in the sunset in the background. Two very fake-looking birds 'fly' by, one from the left and one from the right, hanging from wires.}''

'''SICKLY SAM:''' I'm havin' a time.

''{Cut to another section of the boardwalk, with Strong Bad, Strong Man, and the Sneak.}''

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' All right, boys! Remember the plan! Step One: give him the business!

''{Strong Man flexes his muscles and the Sneak's nose wiggles sneakily.}''

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' Step Two: cocktails in the parlor! We shan't get foiled again!

''{Strong Man exits stage left, jumping out of the side of the frame and into the frame with Sickly Sam. He crashes through the wooden boards, leaving a jagged hole, from which three board-mounted 'shark fins' roil and dance greedily, as if invisible wooden sharks were feeding on him.}''

'''SICKLY SAM:''' What a pleasant hole.

''{Cut to closeup of Sickly Sam, who looks into the hole.}''

'''SICKLY SAM:''' I can't say 'nough good things about this hole.

''{Camera moves to boardwalk railing, along which the Sneak is sneaking, with a [[Big Knife]] held in his twirly tail. He poises his tail to strike like a scorpion, but is attacked by four wire-hung seagulls which caw and screech as they 'attack' him. They carry him into the distant background and drop him into the water. Cut to Strong Bad, who jumps into the frame from stage right and threatens Sickly Sam with a revolver as he speaks.}''

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' Curses, you bone-legged boob! I'll pump you generously full of lead, shot at high velocity out of my pistola! So as to pierce the flesh! Or in your case, the burlap sack!

''{Sickly Sam reaches out an improbably long right arm, opens his mouth, and, seizing Strong Bad by the head, slowly swallows him feet first. Strong Bad flings his pistol into the water in surprise.}''

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' Rrrah! I can't believe I'm being eaten! What a tragedy! I was supposed to sell you to the glue factory and whatnot!

''{Strong Bad is mustache-deep in Sickly Sam's mouth by now}''

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' I can't believe I'm still being eaten! This is taking so much longer than I expected!

''{Cut to closeup of Sickly Sam}''

'''SICKLY SAM:''' ''{gulps}'' This is the finest meal I've ever had in my extremely lo-o-ong life!

''{Circle wipe from black screen to interior of Sickly Sam's torso. More dramatic organ music plays. There is a barrel, a shovel, a jug marked 'XXX,' and a Parcheesi board with a few tokens on it.}''

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' Curses! All they've got in here is Parcheesi! Can't a gentle-man at least get a game of, say, pole-dagger, or Polynesian Roulette? What manner of uncivilized ribcage is this, anyways?

''{Fade out on Strong Bad shaking his fist in frustration. Organ music plays. Fade in on a smiling Sickly Sam standing in front of a glue factory. His left arm hugs a skinny, bony swaybacked horse with two enormous buck teeth, scraggly hair and a few strands of hair where a tail should be, wearing Far-Side-style ladies' glasses and a nametag labeled "Dee".}''

'''SICKLY SAM:''' I've finally found the love of a lifetime.

''{A big, beating pink heart appears over Dee's head. She leans into Sickly Sam's tender embrace as we circle-wipe to black. Only the heart is left above the words 'The End.' The organ music plays a final tune as the heart falls onto the lettering. The controls 'back?' and 'again?' appear.}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia: Vaudeville|Vaudeville]] was a type of variety theater popular in the early 20th century, featuring comedians, musicians, and assorted other acts.
*A [[Wikipedia:Skid row|skid row]] is a run-down or dilapidated urban area with a large population of impoverished abusers of alcohol and often other drugs.
*The Fort Wayne Locomotive refers to Sickly Sam as "[[Wikipedia:Sickle-cell disease|Sickle Cell]]", a group of genetic disorders that cause the red blood cells to take on a sickle-shape.
*A [[Wikipedia:Dentifrice|dentifrice]] is a means of maintaining oral hygiene, such as toothpaste or mouthwash.
*[[Wikipedia:Asbestos|Asbestos]] is a mineral compound that was used to make things like roofing, fireproofing and gaskets. After discovering asbestos fibers can cause serious illnesses, they have been banned from many countries since the mid-1980s.
* [[Wikipedia: Sheboygan, Wisconsin|Sheboygan]] is a city in the state of [[Wikipedia:Wisconsin|Wisconsin]].
*Dressed to the five and three-quarters is a toned-down version of [[Wiktionary:dressed to the nines|dressed to the nines]]. The phrase refers to someone who is sharply dressed.
*Selling Sickly Sam to the glue factory refers to the practice of using animal connective tissue and bones to make [[Wikipedia:Animal glue|animal glue]]. The animal in question is usually a [[horse]].
*Early 20th century films would be partially colorized in some parts of certain scenes for emphasis. This colorization would have to be done after the film was already made.
*"[[Wikipedia:Two_bits|8 bits]]" is slang expression for "one dollar".
*To "[http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/cut+a+rug.html cut a rug]" is a slang expression meaning "to dance".
*"[[wiktionary:bee's knees|The bee's knees]]" is a slang expression used to denote something outstanding or excellent.
*[[wikipedia:Parcheesi|Parcheesi]] is a game played with two dice, and the goal is to move each of the pawns to the center space.

===Trivia===
*This is the first full Old-Timey cartoon since 2004's [[That A Ghost]].
*This is the first full Old-Timey cartoon to include a color.
*This is the first full Old-Timey cartoon to not include [[Fat Dudley]] in the storyline.
*This is the first cartoon in which [[Fort Wayne Locomotive]] says anything.
**This is the first time the Fort Wayne Locomotive is made an official Old-Timey character, having previously been a background character. It is also the first time his name is officially used in a cartoon. The only other time he had been referred to by that name was in the commentary for [[Ballad of the Sneak]].
*This cartoon reveals that [[The Sneak]] can indeed talk.

===Remarks===
*In the [[TV Time Toons Menu]]'s preview of the toon, the bouquets are completely black and white, whilst in the toon, they are partially pink.
*"Based on the vaudeville stylings of Wibe Chimendez" sounds similar to "based on the comedic stylings of [[Lil' Strong Bad]]" from [[theme song]].
*As The Homestar Runner gets the telegram it says "SUPER MODERN TELEGRAM," but as he reads it it says "HONEST TELEGRAM."
*The first color films appeared in the late 1920s, but experimental color films (which this resembles) with only part of the scene colorized or tinted, were done as early as the first decade of the 20th century.
*Fort Wayne Locomotive pulls the Sheboygan Booteaters flag out of [[hammerspace]].
*In the Honest Telegram, the word (STOP) is placed at the end of each line. This is syntactically incorrect, for (STOP) was used to indicate a period in telegrams (since punctuation marks cost extra), causing each line to be a sentence in itself. Also, the period in the last line makes the (STOP) redundant.

===Goofs===
*When Old Timey Strong Bad jumps in on the boardwalk, Sickly Sam's hat and [[chocolate]] disappear.
*Old-Timey Strong Bad's outline is visible on Sickly Sam and on the boardwalk when he is being eaten.
**Plus, in the close-up of the being eaten, his shoe lines are visible through his other shoe.
*During the scene in the Saw Mill, a little part of Marzipan's eye vanishes on alternate frames.

===Inside References===
* This toon includes an instance of [[Kicking The Cheat|kicking The Sneak]].
* At one point, The Sneak holds a [[Big Knife]].
* Old-Timey Strong Bad's pistol, last seen in [[Parsnips A-Plenty]], is another instance of [[guns]].
* "The Homestar Runner Progrum" is another instance of a [[progrum]].
* Old-Timey Strong Bad is named at his introduction as a "thousandaire", a reference to [[suntan]].
* The toon is based on the vaudeville stylings of Wibe [[A. Chimendez|Chimendez]].
* Sickly Sam does the same dance he did in [[Ballad of the Sneak]], the [[Wikipedia: Charleston (dance)| Charleston]].
* Sickly Sam is seen in a [[cardboard box]].
* Old-Timey Strong Bad, The Sneak and the Strong Man hide in a garbage can with [[bike thief|cartoon eyeholes]].
* Sickly Sam eating Strong Bad is another instance of [[eating non-food items]].
* The flower cart is called a "Depot on Wheels" because Old-Timey Bubs was previously seen staffing the [[Parsnip Depot]] in Parsnips A-Plenty.
* Fort Wayne Locomotive gives advice about women and relationships, as does his modern counterpart, [[Coach Z]], in [[In Search of the Yello Dello]].
* The show being in "a color!" is an example of using the [[singular instead of plural]].

===Real-World References===
* "C'mon Jackson, cut yourself a slice of rug!" is a quote from the 1945 [[Looney Tunes]] cartoon [[Wikipedia:Hare Tonic|Hare Tonic]] with Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd.
*The note on the side of the Honest Telegram "X-11ish" a reference to [[wikipedia:X_Window_System|X-11 Window System]]. The telegram also contains an ambiguous [[wikipedia:Truth_table|Truth Table]].
*The sound and side-to-side movements of The Fort Wayne Locomotive are identical to those of the player in the handheld game [http://www.handheldmuseum.com/Tiger/ElectronicFootball.htm Tiger Electronic Football]
* "And The Rest" at the end of the introduction of characters is a reference to the theme of the first season of [[wikipedia:Gilligan's Island|Gilligan's Island]].
*[[Wikipedia:Spic and Span|Spic and Span]] is a cleaning product marketed by [[Wikipedia:Procter & Gamble|Procter & Gamble]] from 1945 to 2001. The name was derived from a phrase meaning "extremely clean".

==External Links==
*[[HR:bigouting.html|watch "Sickly Sam's Big Outing"]]
*[[HR:bigouting.swf|view the Flash file for "Sickly Sam's Big Outing"]]
*[[Forum:13557|forum thread re: Sickly Sam's Big Outing]]

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2009-07-07T17:53:05Z

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==Category==
Should we categorize this as a toon, Homestar Runner email, or Strong Bad email? Maybe as all three? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:42, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:Definitely Hremail and Sbemail. It's already on the Email list, and it has Hremail already in the title. {{User:Itama/sig}} 06:46, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

::It's listed as a sbemail on homestarrunner.com. We should go with that.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

::: It's important to note that on the main page, it's listed as "New Toon," but does have "HREMAIL" in the title AND shows up in the SBEMAIL list on Denny's Menu... so, in a strange twist of fate, it is regarded as all three? [[User:Javaguy78|Javaguy78]] 14:15, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:::: Also, on the toons page the tell-tale "HRE" blob makes it a definate hremail, and Denny's Menu calls it out as a sbemail, so it is, indeed, both. {{User:That_game_dude386/sig}} 01:23, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

That phrase Homestar says.. "Don't Call it a comeback"... isn't that an L.L. Cool J lyric?

Actually, this is more of a sbemail, because TBC has changed the "New Toon" bubble to "new strong bad email". [[User:SuperLuigi|SuperLuigi]] 14:10, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== Fun Fact? ==

Should we add a fun fact that in the commentary for [[email thunder]], Matt Chapman said that there would be no more emails? Or is it not important enough? {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 08:50, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== Easy Button? REALLY? ==

I was more reminded of those USB panic buttons and such, and TBH the 'easy button' isn't the only big red button out there. There's an excuse button, a bull**** button, an insult button, all kindsa buttons.
:I'm not trying to police the wiki, but I don't think you should use swear words, even on the talk pages. {{User:BubbleRevolution/sig}} 18:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::No, really, they sell a such thing as a button that says 'Bull****' when you press it. And it's common courtesy not to edit peoples' statements on talk pages, so I'd like it if you don't edit what I said, even if for censorship purposes, which I don't really support anyway. [[Special:Contributions/98.176.133.158|98.176.133.158]] 21:33, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Nobody cares what you don't support. Follow the rules, anonny. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 05:26, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Please don't be hatin', peoples. If the curse word is removed per Wiki policy, then there's no need to continue the conversation. Back on the actual ''topic'' of this post, I think it looks really similar to the easy button, and is shown at a straight-on angle as in the commercials for whatever store (Office Max? Staples?). --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 12:16, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::IMHO, it just looks like any other oversized red button. But whatever. [[Special:Contributions/98.176.133.158|98.176.133.158]] 13:29, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::The easy button came to mind first for me, but I think nonetheless it's rather TTATOT. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 19:21, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::This is pretty cut and dried, guys. It resembles a Staples Easy Button almost to a T. The only difference is the font used for "dooj." --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|I slayed the Kerrek]]. Really. 03:46, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I think the staples easy button is certainly the most famous of big red buttons of this shape, if not the only one (as i haven't seen anything similar that wasn't a parody of the staples button already). {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:52, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

I send a email for Homestar

Dear Strong Bad
the sbemail 200 is your last email. [[User:Lucsar|Lucsar]] 11:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:Uhhhhhhh... no kiddin'... {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 11:51, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

::I think we should close this discussion topic. [[User:MenacingBanjo|MenacingBanjo]] 16:43, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Disc 7 ==

So, having made this email, this either means TBC will put this on Everything Else Vol. 4, or strongbad_email.exe Disc 7. And if it is the email DVD, then they will have to make at least 29 more. And then stopping at 230 would look untidy, so then they might make another 70 and release it as discs 8 and 9. But then they might want to take it up to at least an even 10... Hmmmmmmm... {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 11:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:Or maybe they don't _have_ to make anything but rather just do stuff they like whenever they have an idea and the time. ;) If they should decide to end sbemails for good one day and happen to end them with an uneven number or too little content for a new DVD, they can do that. They could put them on a mixed DVD with "Everything Else" or just leave it at that and never sell them at all. Or they would find other options. Anyway, I think you get my point. ;) (It's me, Cass from Germany. Comp just logged me out.) --[[Special:Contributions/95.222.57.4|95.222.57.4]] 12:17, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

::Yeah, maybe that would have been better to put on the forum... {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 09:14, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Beth-shiba? ==

Is Senor Cardgage saying, "Beth-shiba," as written in the transcript, or [[Wikipedia:Bathsheba|Bathsheba]]?
:I'm pretty sure it's "Beth", because this is Senor we're talking about. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 12:37, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::He pronounced it Bath. The vowel sound Senor makes is almost 100% clearly an A sound. [[User:MenacingBanjo|MenacingBanjo]] 13:33, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::: I agree it's "Bathsheba" [[User:Javaguy78|Javaguy78]] 14:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Should that become a real-world reference with the Wikipedia link? --[[User:Rotanagol|Rotanagol]] 16:51, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::I tried, but it got removed as a "common name." I'm pretty sure it's not such in the US, at least outside of specific jewish communities, and even then I'd bet it's largely traceable to the Bathsheba refered to in the wiki link, but I'll let the wiki community decide, I guess. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.130|132.183.140.130]] 17:04, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::As for pronunciation, i'm neutral... it's could be a portmanteau between "beth" and "bathsheba", or just "bathsheba". that's not why i'm commenting. I'm commenting because it is certainly not a RWR, and probably isn't necessary as an explanation. I feel like it's a commonly enough KNOWN name, even if not many people HAVE it. But then again, i do come from one of those jewish-type communities the anonny mentioned, so i may have a bit of a skewed perception. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:51, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::I for one, have never heard of such a name and live in a major city. It probably would be useful to explain what this is, or at least provide a wiki link in the transcript itself rather than a RWR. -[[Special:Contributions/24.118.94.73|24.118.94.73]] 06:28, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I suspect it's not so much a regional thing as a background thing: people of certain backgrounds, including Deffy's, are likely to be familiar with the [[Wikipedia:Bible|book]] in question (I'm familiar with the name, too, in large part because I'm from [[Wikipedia:Christianity|another background]] that tends to be familiar with that book). Of course, just for cultural reasons, many Westerners with a non-religious background also have some knowledge of these things, and I'm not sure if this is obscure enough to need explaining or if doing so is too much explaining the joke. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:00, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Also, we never link in the transcript. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:27, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I just created the real-world reference and removed it after finding this thread. I'm not saying it isn't a real world reference, and interestingly, when you do a search for bathsheba in wikipedia it links to the famous character in Judeo-Christian religion. I think Bathsheba is much more well known as a person than as a name, but that being said, it doesn't really illuminate much to put it as a rwr. [[Special:Contributions/71.92.222.251|71.92.222.251]]

== Moonwalking? ==

Is it just me, or does Senor Cardgage's walking in place look like a tribute to Michael Jackson's moonwalk move?

It's just you.--[[Special:Contributions/206.205.184.2|206.205.184.2]] 14:20, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:Maybe if he had been walking backwards, but the way it was done, it seemed like it was just supposed to be some weird thing. [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 14:27, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::That's what i thought of given recent events, but [[Best_Caper_Ever#Real-World_References|you can't really say they would do something like that]], can you? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:03, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== Lappy 486 and Paper 2.0: Rest In Peace==
They killed off Lappy the same way they killed of Tandy, I wonder what new computer will replace it. Perhaps Strong Bad and Homestar will answer an email together. [[User:MICGAGUH]]
:Sorry, but stuff like this really belongs on the forum. [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 14:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== Kelly-usa? ==

This seems unlikely, but did anyone else think "Kelly-Usa" ("oosa") was a reference to Sailor Moon? There's a character named Chibi-Usa with the last part also pronounced "oosa." Being from a Japanese anime, it'd explain the "exotic lady from the Far East" comment. Reasons this is improbable: (1) -usa is not an honorific in Japan and was unique to the one character, making this reference pretty specific; (2) Chibi-Usa was a little girl, not an "exotic lady"; and (3) really, Sailor Moon?

If someone has an alternative explanation of SB's reaction, I'd like to see it.
:Actually, it's probably just an extention of the Homenadé joke made in [[Donut Unto Others]]. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:10, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== sbemail201 ==

Do you think this counts as sbemail201? Because if not, sbemail201.html will be the first official sbemail to not be located at "sbeamil{#}.html". {{User:The thing/sig}} 15:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, it counts (it's on the sbemail menu on the site), and [[flashback|no]], [[senior prom|it]] [[email thunder|won't]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:03, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:It counts, and it's not the first. [[senior prom]] was located at "kingpoptoon.html".
::There an echo in here? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User:Jay|''Jay'']] 17:34, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:::speaking of echoes, when he says, "Dear Strong Bad Strong Bad Strong Bad Strong Bad", that echo has happened in at least one e-mail before. is this notable? incidentally, the file is kotpoptoon.html, not kingpoptoon, but w/e {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::::and which email was it? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::that would be [[redesign]], although that one sounded natural, as opposed to strong bad just repeating his name quieter --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 05:42, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Name styles ==

This may need to be listed on the [[HRW:STYLES|manual of style]] or its talk page, but I just wanted to state somewhere that this toon should be referred to as [[hremail3184]] when listed as a Strong Bad Email and [[Hremail 3184]] when listed as a Hremail or when TBC list it as such. I think our usage to this point has been consistent with the guideline, but I figured it should at least be mentioned out loud. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:43, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:I was the one who originally moved the page from [[Hremail 3184]] to [[hremail3184]], and I wasn't sure if I should fix the pages listed in "What links here?" for the former article. I suppose that clears it up. [[User:Dalkaen|Dalkaen]] 04:29, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== scroll buttons ==

there is no scroll buttons song as of this sbemail

Yeah. We know. It's been stated on the page. {{User:BubbleRevolution/sig}} 18:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:Hey, I did that! {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 09:17, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== takes, has, means... ==

So, at least three times in this email, the characters use the wrong word in a sentence. For example, SB says "I can't takes it no more", Coach Z says "... now I don't has to" and the Lappy asks, "does that means?" Are these mentionable? I think they are, in the same vein that "Be's careful" and "be's'ing mean..." were in previous emails... but how do we mention them in this email.... a little help? [[User:Javaguy78|Javaguy78]] 21:40, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:"This email contains several instances of [[Deliberately Poor English]]." --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== Identical explosion marks? ==

I dunno if anyone else noticed, but the explosion mark at the end of this toon is the exact same vector shape that was used in the same spot back in 'virus', after Bubs shot the Compy.
:I did notice, but I wasn't sure if it was worth noting. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 05:31, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

==32X Reference==

I did a basic edit about the Grilled mushrooms 32x reference, but since I'm new at this can some one perfect it?

==So popular lately==

Gas rings around explosions in pop culture probably started with the Star Wars Special Editions. Worth a Real World Reference?
:Unless you can make that "probably" into a "definitely", I'd say not. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, there are certainly earlier examples, notably in Star Treks II and VI, but the idea of adding a shock-wavey Saturn ring to make an explosion 'fancier' definitely starts with the SW SEs. Not that there's anything 'lately' about 1997, but SB probably doesn't have a DVD player yet. :)
:Meh, I think it's a bit [[TTATOT]]. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 05:33, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, SB's reference itself is rather broad ranging. It's not as if he is referencing a single source of the Saturn ring explosions, but actually the trend of having them. As such, one or two notable mentions might be worth making.

==PONK!==
Anyone else notice the name of the beer Bubs was drinking?--[[User:Robotguy4|Robotguy4]] 05:17, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:It is clearly "PONK!" Point? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:57, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::I think [http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/energydrink.htm this] is his point. It really seems like it's a ''[[Wikipedia:Team Fortress 2|Team Fortress 2]]'' reference (right down to Bubs mimicking the Scout's constant "BONK" proclamations); I just haven't added it in because the relationship isn't absolutely obvious. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:08, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Since you pointed it out, it's pretty obvious, but before you said anything, I wouldn't have even known about it. That, in my book, is plenty good reason to add it.
::::It has nothing to do with how obvious or not obvious it is and everything to do with whether or not it's actually referring to the thing in question. I don't think there's enough of a similarity to connect the two. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:32, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::I disagree. There seems to be plenty of parallels. And as for whether it's "actually referring to the thing in question," since when are you or any of the users on this Wiki actually inside the mind of TBC that you can know for certain what's a deliberate reference and what's not? We can only make such assessments based on external evidence, such as comparable similarities.
::::::Well, that's why we (used to) have STUFF... but anyway, in all honesty, I'm thinking of just adding it in and seeing where things go from there. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:21, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Likely it will get removed immediately. The way to go about it is to use this talk thread, not just put it on the page and see what happens. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:38, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::If it's a valid fact, it shouldn't get removed. Anyway, I'm on the fence.. I can see arguments both ways. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.135|128.103.10.135]] 23:29, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

==Other Info==

Is anyone planning on putting the writing from Strong Bad's newspaper and business card in the article? [[User:CloneWarrior|CloneWarrior]] 08:38, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:Bwees-ness card is a good idea, and we would all be grateful for the addition of it. Da NewsPapes, however, (and correct me if I'm wrong) says exactly the same thing it has in its other SB-on-da-toilet scenes, so it needs no transcription. --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 12:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::Well, I checked the article for Candy Product, and the newspaper definitely has different text there. What other instances are there? [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 00:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Speech Impediment ==

Is it me, or does Homestar's Speech Impediment is kinda missing at the beginning of the hremail?--{{User:Darkangel/sig}} 08:54, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== traffic ==

Do the sounds of traffic during Senor Cardgage's part sound like the traffic in his part during the FBI Warning on strongbad_email.exe Disc Six? -Logged Out Open Source Greg
:It sounds like it might be the same, but that's a note for [[Sound Effects]]. --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 12:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== No Broken Lappy Menu? ==

I think this is the first sbemail where a computer explodes and there is no special menu for the broken computer, like after the tandy and the compy. I can't remember if those came in right away, or a few days later. [[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 14:48, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:I believe there's been a gap in between the destruction of the computer and the broken menu. The dates on [[virus]] and [[Broken Compy Menu]] back that up. It's probably done that way to avoid spoiling the surprise of the destruction. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:42, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Magnificent Marzipan ==

* The Magnificent Marzipan is a nod to [[Wikipedia:Sensational_Sherri|Sensational Sherri]] and/or [[Wikipedia:Don_Muraco|The Magnificent Muraco]].

What evidence is there to support this claim aside from the alliteration? This seems extremely weak to me. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 20:46, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:I agree. There are tons of alliterative titles like this. Without commentary confirmation, this is...augh! I don't wanna say it! TTATOT. --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 00:00, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== Already prepared to explode the lappy? ==

I put a fact on the page, but it got removed as unnotable, so I wanted to mention it here. Does no one else find it inconsistent that, although Strong Bad had just now (as of this email) been asked about explosions, he had bought the dooj button (in preparation of exploding the lappy) several weeks ago? -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.140.130|132.183.140.130]] 22:49, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:I don't know about that, but I think a Remark should be made about the button not being plugged into the Lappy until SB points it out. [[User:Monkeytender|Monkeytender]] 23:18, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::Well, it seems notable to me. Like all the <s>crap</s> very interesting fun facts that we put in. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 23:24, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::The way i see it, this email is basically SB telling about how he regularly splo's stuff up, at least as often as he breathes air molecules, so for him to plan to blow up the lappy even before recieving the question is VERY consistant with this email. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:26, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Ghost Lappy ==

The (demonic) shadow of Female Lappy in the explosion feels like a reference to the ghosts of the Tandy (Bad Graphics) and Compy (skeleton), but I'm not sure how (or if) to put this into an Inside Reference or Remark. Thoughts? {{User:Itama/sig}} 00:16, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Remarks, that's where I think you should put it. [[User:MICGAGUH]]
::No, you should put it in Inside References. --[[User:Particleman24|Particleman24]] 22:43, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

== Usa, Japan ==

<blockquote>* Strong Bad's remark that Kelly-Usa sounds exotic is a reference to the [http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/usa.asp urban legend] about Japan renaming a town Usa.</blockquote>

This doesn't seem quite right to me. In this case he is interpreting Usa as Kelly's last name, and I don't think it really stands on it's own as a reference specifically to that urban legend. The only thing that stopped me from removing it is the fact that they have referred to the urban legend before, and somewhat recently, but even that relies on either being a close follower of the TBC's work or making a priori connections in order to be considered a reference to the urban legend in my mind. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 12:52, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:I really don't think this enough for a reference, because 1)I don't think they'd reference an urban legend TWICE within about two months, and 2)It's just SB pronouncing an abbreviation as a word. 3)He doesn't even mention Japan. The word "usa" would probably not be enough for a reference alone. Just my opinion. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 13:02, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:I disagree with both of you. It is a fairly commonly known urban legend, and I see no reason to suppose that TBC wouldn't be referencing it. Otherwise, we have to ask the question: why would SB call attention to it unless there was some sort of humorous connection to be made, apart from the mere sound of the word?
::Because the "humorous connection" was the fact that he read Usa as her last name instead of her country. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 07:01, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

== 32x Reference? ==

When strongbad introduces the chili dog, the grilled mushrooms logo says 32x. I think this is a reference to the 32x add-on for the Sega genesis, as well as the fact that its somewhat shaped like a mushroom.

==Paper 2.0 in Cast?==

I started to think that the Paper 2.0 should be mentioned in the cast section, but I'm not sure if that can be counted here. Thoughts?
:Well, we don't know what paper it was, and either way, we don't list the Paper (or any pseudocharacter) in the cast under normal circumstances anyway. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:14, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
A separate question, I see many times mentioned that we don't know it was New Paper. Why not? Don't we know that the (old) Paper got burned up by a spark from Homestar's Computer when SB poured the MD on it? -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.86|132.183.138.86]] 21:10, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
However, the old paper did return in Sb_mail 200, and it was previously burned, so it is possible that it could come back from the dead...
That, or since it "trancends time and space" it could have time travelled some how...--[[User:Robotguy4|Robotguy4]] 07:38, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

== I can't BELIEVE nobody picked this up. ==

Strong Sad's scene with the Pop Tart is a dual reference. It just SCREAMS [[Wikipedia:James Bond]] and [[Wikipedia: Die Hard With a Vengeance]]
:I can see what you mean. If you're able to word it understandably, feel free to add it to references. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.86|132.183.138.86]] 21:11, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

== Possible Popeye reference? ==

Anyone else think that part of Strongbad's opening line "I can't takes it no mores!" is a reference to Popeye, who frequently said "I've all I can stands, and I can't stands no mores!"?
:It's reminiscent, but not concrete enough to be notable, I think. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.162|132.183.138.162]] 17:24, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== Place ya bets! ==

What do you think Strongbad's new computer will be like? What about his new paper?--[[User:Metaphoricallycrazy|M.Crazy]] | [[User talk:Metaphoricallycrazy|Talk]] 17:53, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
:I think it will be like something that would be better discussed at the forum. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:37, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Talk:hremail 3184

2009-07-07T17:34:23Z

Metaphoricallycrazy: /**/Place ya bets!

Homestar Runner RPG

2009-07-07T00:41:02Z

Metaphoricallycrazy: took out bad link

[[Image:hsr_rpg_atari2600_tv.jpg|thumb|220px|Atari'd!]]

'''Homestar Runner RPG''' was the first planned official console game for [[homestarrunner.com]]. It was under development for the [[Atari 2600]] by [[Paul Slocum]]. Due to the immense scope of a full 2600 RPG, as of February 2006 the ''demo'' is approximately 1/3 finished. As of August 2008, the project has been abandoned.

Gamers would have been able to play as [[Homestar Runner]], [[Homsar]], or [[Strong Sad]], and possibly [[Marzipan]] and [[Coach Z]], against the villain [[Strong Bad]], and possibly [[The Cheat]] and [[Strong Mad]], in a traditional swords and sorcery RPG. The enemies would have included those from other games in the Atari family. The map was comparable in size to the early computer RPGs. Gameplay was planned to be turn-based with lots of mini-games and story text with codes given to "save" game.

The game would have been released in an Atari 2600 cartridge for the dedicated old-school gamer, and as a downloadable ROM for systems with an emulator.

On January 4th, 2005 the developer published this statement:
<blockquote>"The game's on hold for a while. I'm too busy with my band and other
projects to work on it right now, but I do plan to return to it when
I can. Sorry it's taking so long, but that's life."</blockquote>

[[Matt Chapman]] indicated the game may not materialize as he said this in [[Bobby Blackwolf Interview - 5 Sep 2005|an interview]] on September 5th, 2005:
<blockquote>I think it's— it's sort of in limbo. I mean he— know he's talking— I think it was really pushing the limits of what the 2600 could do, especially with an RPG, and so uh, I think he was getting a little overwhelmed. He realized that all the work he had done, which was, you know, hours and hours and hours, amounted to like 2% of what the game would finally be. And so he just kinda— I think he kinda freaked out. So he kinda— he was on hold on that for a while, but he did say that he— he's— he's willing to look into some uh, other 2600 projects that are a little more, you know, within the normal 2600 realm. Not necessarily trying to, uh— I think that's gonna be his opus, and so the Homestar Runner was sort of just being applied to it. He could make an RPG that really didn't have to be Homestar Runner or not. So uh, so I hope he makes it someday 'cause— 'cause I would love to play an RPG on the 2600 for sure.</blockquote>

On August 12, 2008, Paul Slocum confirmed in a [http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=642739&cid=24564745 Slashdot.org comment] that the game was abandoned:
<blockquote>We had to abandon it, it was just too ambitious, and during the time that I was working on it my schedule was gradually getting more and more ridiculous. The display code for that RPG was pushing the Atari so hard, and so it was very delicate and became time-consuming to keep in balance. Most of the display, music, map-handling, and memory management was in place. But the battle system and overall RPG design were just getting started. I've had some people interested in the code for other 2600 RPG projects so something may still come out of it.
 
We still may release a H*R Atari 2600 game at some point -- we've talked about some other ideas that would be much more reasonable.</blockquote>

==External links==
*[http://qotile.net/rpg.html Developer's Site]
*[http://stella.sourceforge.net/ Stella: a multi-platform Atari 2600 VCS emulator]
*[http://www.whimsey.com/z26/z26.html z26 Atari 2600 Emulator for Windows and x86 Linux ]

[[Category: Real World]]
[[Category: Games]]

Strong Bad Email

2009-07-05T18:53:58Z

Metaphoricallycrazy: Time for you to get a calendar.

<div class="thumb tright"><div class="thumbinner" style="width:202px;"><div class="hovul" style="font-size:smaller;border-bottom:1px #CCC solid;margin-bottom:4px;padding-bottom:4px">[[hr:sbemail.html|Strong Bad Email menu]]</div>[[Image:sbemail_lappy2.png|200px|Strong Bad checks his email.]]<div style="padding-top:4px">Strong Bad checks his email.</div></div></div>
'''Strong Bad Email''', frequently shortened to '''sbemail''', was originally a small feature in which [[Strong Bad]] would answer a fan-sent email and commonly mock the spelling and grammar of those who wrote to him. The animations were initially brief, but gradually the responses grew to establish numerous [[inside jokes]], and [[running gags]] and catchphrases, as well as [[Strong Bad Email Spin-offs|spin-offs]], like [[20X6]], [[Teen Girl Squad]], [[Hremails]], [[Trogdor]], and even the main character [[Homsar]]. A typical Strong Bad Email includes numerous [[Easter egg]]s and other hidden material, often found at the ending screen. Many Strong Bad Emails, such as [[japanese cartoon]], [[video games]], and [[theme song]], are satirical views of particular aspects of popular culture.

Introduced in 2001, Strong Bad Email has historically been the most frequently updated feature of [[homestarrunner.com]], but was put on hiatus from September 2008 to June 2009. [[The Brothers Chaps]] stated in interviews that they wanted to focus on other characters and vary their output.[http://mag.awn.com/index.php?ltype=pageone&category2=&article_no=3983&page=1] Email 200 just happened to be a round number at which to take a break.[http://omgnintendo.blogfaction.com/article/108144/one-year-of-wiiware-matt-and-mike-chapman-on-strong-bads-cool-game-for-attractive-people/] The feature returned in June 2009.
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==Strong Bad Emails==

===[[Lappy 486]] Era===
''(November 2004 — July 2009)''
<blockquote class="lappy email" style="width:90%;font-family:Verdana,Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;font-weight:normal">
<div>subject: sb_email menu</div>
<table class="emaillinks" style="color:#fff;background:none;width:100%">
<autocolumn cols="3" width="33%">
201. [[hremail3184]] new! 
200. [[email thunder]] 
199. [[being mean]] 
198. [[magic trick]] 
197. [[your edge]] 
196. [[hiding]] 
195. [[love poems]] 
194. [[specially marked]] 
193. [[rated]] 
192. [[shapeshifter]] 
191. [[buried]] 
190. [[licensed]] 
189. [[pet show]] 
188. [[fan club]] 
187. [[winter pool]] 
186. [[environment]] 
185. [[nightlife]] 
184. [[diorama]] 
183. [[yes, wrestling]] 
182. [[business trip]] 
181. [[web comics]] 
180. [[slumber party]] 
179. [[pizza joint]] 
178. [[bike thief]] 
177. [[original]] 
176. [[hygiene]] 
175. [[concert]] 
174. [[mini-golf]] 
173. [[the paper]] 
172. [[more armies]] 
171. [[underlings]] 
170. [[rough copy]] 
169. [[from work]] 
168. [[your funeral]] 
167. [[the movies]] 
166. [[unnatural]] 
165. [[strong badathlon]] 
164. [[looking old]] 
163. [[what I want]] 
162. [[the chair]] 
161. [[4 branches]] 
160. [[coloring]] 
159. [[retirement]] 
158. [[cliffhangers]] 
157. [[trading cards]] 
156. [[road trip]] 
155. [[theme song]] 
154. [[keep cool]] 
153. [[redesign]] 
152. [[isp]] 
151. [[senior prom]] 
150. [[alternate universe]] 
149. [[candy product]] 
148. [[disconnected]] 
147. [[lady fan]] 
146. [[pop-up]] 
145. [[myths & legends]] 
144. [[narrator]] 
143. [[technology]] 
142. [[secret identity]] 
141. [[death metal]] 
140. [[highschool]] 
139. [[portrait]] 
138. [[space program]] 
137. [[bedtime story]] 
136. [[geddup noise]] 
135. [[lady...ing]] 
134. [[record book]] 
133. [[bottom 10]] 
132. [[modeling]] 
131. [[boring (really)]] 
130. [[do over]] 
129. [[garage sale]] 
128. [[rampage]] 
127. [[long pants]] 
126. [[best thing]] 
125. [[rock opera]] 
124. [[secret recipes]] 
123. [[origins]] 
122. [[dreamail]] 
121. [[part-time job]] 
120. [[radio]] 
119. [[animal]] 
</autocolumn>
</table>
</blockquote>
----

===[[Compy 386]] Era===
''(September 2002 — November 2004)''
<blockquote class="compy email" style="width:90%;font-family:Verdana,Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;font-weight:normal">Volume in drive C: has no label 
Directory of C:\sbemail\updated somedays 
<table class="emaillinks" style="color:#fff;background:none;width:100%">
<autocolumn cols="3" width="33%">
118. [[virus]] 
117. [[montage]] 
116. [[extra plug]] 
115. [[time capsule]] 
114. [[the facts]] 
113. [[pizzaz]] 
112. [[old comics]] 
111. [[other days]] 
110. [[for kids]] 
109. [[crying]] 
108. [[pom pom]] 
107. [[cheatday]] 
106. [[dangeresque 3]] 
105. [[replacement]] 
104. [[theme park]] 
103. [[haircut]] 
102. [[lunch special]] 
101. [[car]] 
100. [[flashback]] 
99. [[different town]] 
98. [[stupid stuff]] 
97. [[monument]] 
96. [[lackey]] 
95. [[the bet]] 
94. [[video games]] 
93. [[army]] 
92. [[kind of cool]] 
91. [[caffeine]] 
90. [[colonization]] 
89. [[local news]] 
88. [[couch patch]] 
87. [[mile]] 
86. [[no loafing]] 
85. [[2 years]] 
84. [[kids' book]] 
83. [[labor day]] 
82. [[impression]] 
81. [[date]] 
80. [[stunt double]] 
79. [[the process]] 
78. [[anything]] 
77. [[suntan]] 
76. [[sibbie]] 
75. [[funny]] 
74. [[privileges]] 
73. [[mascot]] 
72. [[crazy cartoon]] 
71. [[2 emails]] 
70. [[big white face]] 
69. [[personal favorites]] 
68. [[caper]] 
67. [[autobiography]] 
66. [[the show]] 
65. [[unused emails]] 
64. [[english paper]] 
63. [[fingers]] 
62. [[interview]] 
61. [[monster truck]] 
60. [[huttah!]] 
59. [[marzipan]] 
58. [[dragon]] 
57. [[japanese cartoon]] 
56. [[current status]] 
55. [[cheat talk]] 
54. [[morning routine]] 
53. [[comic]] 
52. [[island]] 
51. [[website]] 
50. [[50 emails]] 
49. [[theme party]] 
48. [[ghosts]] 
47. [[new hands]] 
46. [[your friends]] 
45. [[techno]] 
44. [[lures & jigs]] 
43. [[little questions]] 
42. [[action figure]] 
41. [[invisibility]] 
</autocolumn>
</table>
</blockquote>
----

===[[Tandy 400]] Era===
''(August 2001 — September 2002)''
<blockquote class="tandy email" style="width:90%;font-family:Verdana,Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;font-weight:normal"><div style="border:none;background:none;text-align:center;padding-left:17%"> FILENAME  - updated mondays</div>
<table class="emailgreenlinks" style="color:#0c0;background:none;width:100%">
<autocolumn cols="3" width="33%">
40. [[vacation]] 
39. [[property of ones]] 
38. [[helium]] 
37. [[dullard]] 
36. [[guitar]] 
35. [[sisters]] 
34. [[weird dream]] 
33. [[gimmicks]] 
32. [[flag day]] 
31. [[sugarbob]] 
30. [[12:00]] 
29. [[superhero name]] 
28. [[1 step ahead]] 
27. [[3 Wishes]] 
26. [[CGNU]] 
25. [[super powers]] 
24. [[the bird]] 
23. [[little animal]] 
22. [[sb_email 22]] 
21. [[cartoon]] 
20. [[spring cleaning]] 
19. [[tape-leg]] 
18. [[stand-up]] 
17. [[studying]] 
16. [[band names]] 
15. [[the basics]] 
14. [[duck pond]] 
13. [[i she be]] 
12. [[credit card]] 
11. [[i rule]] 
10. [[trevor the vampire]] 
9. [[i love you]] 
8. [[brianrietta]] 
7. [[halloweener]] 
6. [[depressio]] 
5. [[making out]] 
4. [[homestar hair]] 
3. [[butt IQ]] 
2. [[homsar]] 
1. [[some kinda robot]]
</autocolumn>
</table>
</blockquote>

==DVD Releases==

*Emails 1-200 have been released on the [[strongbad_email.exe]] 6-disc DVD series. There is also a best of selection, [[SBEmails' 50 Greatest Hits DVD]].

===DVD Emails===

The following emails only appear on the DVD set:

*[[Greeting Cards]] (Bonus Email #1)
*[[E-mail Birds]] (Bonus Email #2)
*[[Videro Games]] (Bonus Email #3)
*[[Family Resemblence]] (Bonus Email #4)
*[[Real-Live E-Mails]] (Bonus [[Puppet Stuff]] Email)
*[[Accent]] (Bonus Email #5)
*[[Comic Book Movie]] (Bonus Email #6)

==Podstar Runner Releases==
Beginning January 30, 2006, Strong Bad emails were released under a feature called [[Podstar Runner]]. They have featured popular [[Toons]], [[Teen Girl Squad|Teen Girl Squads]], and Strong Bad Emails in .m4v format. They are designed to be viewed on a Fifth Generation Apple [[Wikipedia:iPod|iPod]], but are workable on a variety of other portable media players. These emails are featured or have been featured through this service (in order of release, top left being the earliest, bottom right being the latest):

<table width="100%">
<autocolumn cols="4" width="20%">
*[[techno]]
*[[dragon]]
*[[japanese cartoon]]
*[[kids' book]]
*[[crying]]
*[[bottom 10]]
*[[caffeine]]
*[[virus]]
*[[guitar]]
*[[video games]]
*[[different town]]
*[[montage]]
*[[personal favorites]]
*[[sisters]]
*[[death metal]]
*[[theme park]]
*[[crazy cartoon]]
*[[army]]
*[[flag day]]
*[[trevor the vampire]]
*[[stunt double]]
*[[best thing]]
*[[caper]]
*[[mascot]]
*[[geddup noise]]
*[[isp]]
*[[alternate universe]]
*[[garage sale]]
*[[monster truck]]
*[[action figure]]
*[[radio]]
*[[spring cleaning]]
*[[replacement]]
*[[technology]]
*[[haircut]]
*[[animal]]
*[[highschool]]
*[[theme song]]
*[[mile]]
*[[looking old]]
*[[strong badathlon]]
*[[unnatural]]
*[[the movies]]
*[[your funeral]]
*[[from work]]
*[[rough copy]]
*[[underlings]]
*[[more armies]]
*[[the paper]]
*[[mini-golf]]
*[[concert]]
*[[hygiene]]
*[[original]]
*[[bike thief]]
*[[pizza joint]]
*[[slumber party]]
*[[web comics]]
*[[business trip]]
*[[yes, wrestling]]
*[[diorama]]
*[[nightlife]]
*[[environment]]
*[[winter pool]]
*[[fan club]]
*[[pet show]]
*[[licensed]]
*[[buried]]
*[[shapeshifter]]
*[[rated]]
*[[specially marked]]
*[[love poems]]
*[[hiding]]
*[[your edge]]
*[[magic trick]]
*[[being mean]]
*[[email thunder]]
</autocolumn>
</table>

==Not Quite Strong Bad Emails==

The following shorts were originally associated in one way or another with the Strong Bad Emails. They are numbered by halves to show where they appeared chronologically in the list above. Numbers 99½B, 118½, 158½ and 199½B are not linked to from anywhere on the site.
*200½B. [[April Fool 09]] (Strong Bad "sbemailarizes" the Intro to homestarrunner.com.)
*200½A. [[Sbemailiarized!]] (Strong Bad explains how old toons can be recycled into Strong Bad Emails.)
*199½B. [[Page Load Error]] (Secret URL address for anyone who wanted a peek at Email 200 before it was released.)
*199½A. [[Place ya bets!]] (Its HTML file is "sbemail199andahalf". In it, [[The Deleteheads]] try to predict what will be in Strong Bad Email #200.)
*193½B. [[The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw]] (The reading of the story takes place after what appears to be a Strong Bad Email.) 
*193½A. [[SBCG4AP Advertisement]] (This email is an advertisement for a game that was in the making and never actually appeared on the Strong Bad Email page)
*191½. [[Rotten Eggs]] (A message made by the splattered rotten Easter egg reads, "Sbemail Next Week.")
*170½. [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]] (A deleted scene from [[from work|sbemail 169]])
*158½. [[Lappynapped!]] (Messages on Strong Bad's answering machine, as the Lappy is missing.)
*152½. [[Weclome Back]] (Strong Bad tries to show an email he checked over summer vacation (in midair, no less), but hits "stop" instead of "record" on the video camera.)
*149½. [[Sbemail 150?!?]] ([[Strong Sad]] tries to get Strong Bad to do his 150th email.) 
*136½. [[Sick Day]] (A failed attempt at an email due to sickness striking the entire cast.) 
*127½. [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] ("The Email Show" is one of the pay-per-view features.)
*118½. [[Broken Compy Menu|Strong Bad Email?]] (Broken Compy Menu.) 
*99½B. [[Not the 100th Email!!!]] (Secret URL address for anyone who wanted a peek at Email 100 before it was released.)
*99½A. [[Puppet Time]] (A message was taped onto Puppet Compy's screen that read "Probably at a barbecue, from SB")
*68½B. [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]] (A message was taped onto the Compy in the email menu that read "Looking at a thing in a bag" when the cartoon was released.)
*68½A. [[King of Town Email]] ([[The King of Town]] tries to answer an email on his recently bought (but broken) Tandy 400.)
*66½. [[Arcade Game]] (Homestar Runner reads Strong Bad's note he left on the Compy 386.)
*59½. [[Superbowl Dealie]] ([[The Paper]] reads "Due to the big game, the Strong Bad Email will be late this week.")
*55½. [[Decemberween_Email_Menu|Too Busy to Check E-mails]] (Typed on the Compy is "No emails on the holidays.")
*36½. [[TV Time Toons Menu]] (Placing the mouse over Strong Bad Email will bring up a short, soundless email from Stu. See [[Wireless Bizness]].)

==Strong Bad Email Menus==

*1–32 [http://www.homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/sbemail_first.html Tandy 400 menu]
*33–34 [[Broken Tandy Menu]]
*35–40 [http://www.homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/sbemail_youguysokay.html Slightly damaged Tandy menu]
*41 [[HR:sbemail(vacation).swf|Vacation menu]]
*42–118 [[HR:sbemail.swf|Compy 386 menu]]
**Between 55 and 56 [[Decemberween Email Menu]]
**Between 118 and 119 [[Broken Compy Menu]]
*119–Current [[HR:sbemail_lappy.swf|Lappy 486 menu]]

==Milestones==
Whenever Strong Bad reaches an email milestone, such as 100 or 200, the email will be special or at least some note will be taken. Thus far, five emails have been considered milestones.

*50. [[50 emails]] — Strong Bad checks 50 emails (or attempts to) in honor of it being his 50th email check.
*100. [[flashback]] — The email is done in widescreen. [[Marzipan]], [[Senor Cardgage]], [[Old Timey Strong Bad]], and [[Limozeen]] congratulate him on his 100th email. Upon the Compy indicating that he has checked 100 emails with a special screen, Strong Bad says "email" 100 times. [[Homestar]] says "Happy 100th birthday, Strong Bad".
*125. [[rock opera]] — features scenes and at least one word from all of Strong Bad's emails.
*150. [[alternate universe]] — Strong Bad goes into many alternate universes featuring alternate versions of himself, which at the end accompany him in a supergroup ballad. Called the "sesquicentennemail".
*200. [[email thunder]] — The email song is a grand fanfare written by [[They Might Be Giants]] and sung by [[The Poopsmith]]. The email also ends with a screen listing all of the emails to date.

Frequently, a "teaser" toon is released a week before a milestone email in order to play off the anticipation for the upcoming milestone. The teaser toons so far have been [[Not the 100th Email!!!]] (teasing viewers hoping to view email 100 before it was released); [[Sbemail 150?!?]] (in which Strong Sad tries to convince Strong Bad to check email 150 and writes a proposed storyboard for it); [[Place ya bets!]] (in which [[the Deleteheads]] speculate on what will happen in email 200); and [[Page Load Error]] (in which the Deleteheads camp out at the sbemail200.html URL).

==Fun Facts==
===Trivia===
*Some time during mid-2003, "updated mondays" on the main Strong Bad Email Menu changed to "updated somedays." Nothing like this is even noted in Lappy-era emails.
*On the Compy 386 menus, Strong Bad types "<tt>dir /p</tt>", a [[Wikipedia:DOS|DOS]] command used to list all the files in a directory, and to pause between each screen's worth of files.
*Not including Not Quite Strong Bad Emails, Strong Bad has checked 230 emails as of [[hremail3184]].
*It would take 9 hours, 42 minutes, and 34 seconds  to watch every Strong Bad email, including the DVD exclusives but excluding clickable Easter eggs. Including clickable Easter eggs, it would take 10 hours, 35 minutes, and 37 seconds. 
*Email #22, "[[sb_email 22]]", was actually made between emails 40 and 41. It was originally skipped and later made and released under the title 'the lost email' right before Strong Bad replaced his computer with the Compy 386.
*Strong Bad Emails make up about 60% of the toons on the site.
*Back in the Tandy 400 era (at least until July 2002), emailing Strong Bad would result in this automated response:
<blockquote>Thanks for your freakin email. I hope it's not stupid. 
Once I finish these swiss cake rolls I'll read it and if it's awesome enough, 
I'll answer it on the site. 
But if your email is terrible, then it gets R.E.D. alright. 
The Cheat Reads it, Strong Mad Eats it, and I Deletes it. 
[[HR:processing.html|Click Here]] to see us in action! 
Check back every Monday to see if your email has what it takes. 

Watch me while I'm awesome, 
Strong Bad</blockquote>

The link in the automated response leads to the [[Email Processing Room]].
*After [[Random Toon|random.bat]] was implemented, the email list comes from the [[Secret_Pages_XML_Source#Random_Toon_XML_File|rando.xml]] file. Before this, it was included in the Flash file.
*Occasionally, there is a [[Acknowledged Update Delays|lengthy gap]] between email updates. This is sometimes recognized at the start of the next email, as in [[army]], [[geddup noise]], and [[redesign]].
*[[butt IQ]], [[CGNU]], [[3 Wishes]], and [[what I want]] are the only emails with capital letters in their titles.
*Typing sbemail.swf in the address bar will take you to the Flash file for the [[Compy 386]] era.

===Remarks===
*At [[Flashforward 2006 Seattle - 28 Feb 2006|Flashforward 2006]], [[The Brothers Chaps]] gave a list of [[Flashforward 2006 Seattle - 28 Feb 2006#Pre-animation Process - 4:05 p.m.|five things not to email Strong Bad about]]. Additional information about which emails are selected were given in a later [[Late Nite JengaJam Interview - 4 Oct 2007#Email|radio interview]].
*During most emails, you see the back of Strong Bad's head when he sits in front of the computer, which is why he often starts a new line before the text reaches the right side of the computer's screen. However, on the Strong Bad Email menu, you don't see his head at all. This is probably so the viewers can use the bottom scroll button without anything in the way.
*During [[Lappynapped!]], [[retirement|retirement A]], [[retirement|retirement B]] after when the Lappy was kidnapped, and after [[hremail3184]] when the Lappy is destroyed, it was still used for the Strong Bad Email menu.
**If you clicked the random.bat button on the Lappy after [[hremail3184]] was released, Strong Bad would still say the things during the random email selection even though he wasn't still there.

==External Links==

*[[HR:sbemail.html|Strong Bad Email menu]]
*[[HR:sbemail_lappy.swf|view the Flash file for Strong Bad Email Menu]]
*{{pl|l=mailto:strongbad@homestarrunner.com Email Strong Bad}}

==See Also==

*[[Homestar Runner Email]]

{{StrongBadEmailInfo}}
{{H*RNav}}
{{recenttoons}}

<noinclude>
[[Category:Strong Bad Email]]
[[Category:Lists]]
[[Category:Computer Files]]
[[Category:H*R Navigation]]
</noinclude>
{{subtitlesLinks|sbemail}}

Template:whatsnew

2009-07-05T18:51:17Z

Metaphoricallycrazy: It is both.

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====June 30, 2009====
*{{u|sb}} [[Strong Bad Email]] / {{u|hr}} [[Hremail]]: [[hremail3184]] {{watch|hremail3184.html}}

====June 25, 2009====
*{{u|qotw}} [[Quote of the Week]]: Fanmade heavy metal remix of Stinkoman 20X6 Level 1 by VikingGuitar. Be sure and get to the :40 mark! (edited for time/filesize)
*{{u|fs}} [[Weekly Fanstuff]]: Legolated Homsar
*{{u|sk}} [[Sketchbook]]: Frankie ran over a lawyer

====June 8, 2009====
*{{u|hr}} [[Big Toon]]: [[2 Part Episode: Part 2]] {{watch|ccdo7b.html}}

====June 2, 2009====
*{{u|cs}} [[Store]]: [[HRStore:host.html|New Homestar Shirt]]

====June 1, 2009====
*{{u|hr}} [[Big Toon]]: [[2 Part Episode: Part 1]] {{watch|ccdo7.html}}

====May 18, 2009====
*{{u|hr}} [[Short]]: [[79 Seconds Left]] {{watch|79secondsleft.html}}

====May 11, 2009====
*{{u|tgs}} [[Teen Girl Squad]]: [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 15|Issue 15]] {{watch|tgs15.html}}

====May 4, 2009====
*{{u|hr}} [[Hremail]]: [[Hremail 7]] {{watch|hremail7.html}}


</div>
<noinclude>
[[Category:Navigation Templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]
</noinclude>

Steaky Steaky 6 Millenium Edition

2009-07-05T01:40:57Z

Metaphoricallycrazy:

[[Image:SteakSandwich.PNG|thumb|right|''Beverly Clearly'' his computer.]]
The '''Steaky Steaky 6 Millenium Edition''' was to be [[Strong Bad]]'s replacement for the [[Lappy 486]], to commemorate his return to answering emails. In an introduction parodying the Lappy's own in [[animal]], Strong Bad outlined the capabilities of this "processing wonder horse", including sauteed onions and grilled mushrooms, before he realized that it was just a [[steak]] sandwich.

Soon after Strong Bad had resorted back to the Lappy, the sandwich was stolen by [[Senor Cardgage]], claiming that the Steak Samwich was ''his'' "compooter".

==Appearances==
*'''Debut:''' Email [[hremail3184]]

[[Category:Food and drinks]]

Steak

2009-07-05T01:40:27Z

Metaphoricallycrazy: updating apperances

[[Image:Steak.PNG|thumb|The House That Gave Sucky Meats]]
[[Image:Hsgrill.png|thumb|Where my steak is at?]]
'''[[Wikipedia:Steak|Steak]]''' is a common food in the [[Homestar Runner universe]], and is frequently mentioned by [[Strong Bad]].

==Appearances==
*[[Where My Hat Is At?]] — A grill is shown with a steak on it.
*[[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] — At one point, the [[Hanging Objects#From Marshmallow's Last Stand|sign]] has a picture of a steak on it. The caption below reads "Nice to MEAT you!"
*[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] — One of the items available to give to [[Marzipan]] is a steak. If selected, Marzipan will respond irritably as [[Strong Bad]] slips several more steaks into her bag.
*[[Where's The Cheat?]] — Towards the end of the cartoon, [[The King of Town]] is shown holding a steak.
*Email [[island]] — One of the things Strong Bad imagines [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] turning into is a steak.
*[[New Boots]] — Strong Bad tells The Cheat that he would have got a trophy full of Steak-umms if he had shown more effort in his Flash animation.
*[[That A Ghost]] — One of the headstones reads "Steakface McGee".
*[[Halloween Fairstival]] — Strong Bad addresses [[The Cheat]] as "Philly Cheat-Steak".
*[[Homestar Presents: Presents]] — [[Coach Z]] has a TV dinner that includes a Salisbury steak.
*[[50K Racewalker]] — The default name for the player character is "Steak Styles".
*[[FAQ]] — One of the objects that doesn't belong is steak.
*Email [[origins]] — Strong Bad spray paints a steak on Marzipan.
*Email [[death metal]] — [[Taranchula]]'s music video contains a [[live action]], stop motion steak.
*Email [[secret identity]] — Strong Bad advises "Buttless in Bestuy" to eat a steak.
*[[Summer Short Shorts]] — In the [[Powered by The Cheat]] segment, the Cheatasaurus turns Homestar into a steak.
*[[One Two, One Two]] — A steak is one of the things Bubs turns into sausage.
*[[Trudgemank]] — A steak appears several times as one of the visuals.
*[[hremail3184]] Strongbad tries to replace the [[Lappy 486]] with a [[Steaky Steaky 6 Millenium Edition|steak sandwitch]]

[[Category:Generic food and drinks]]

Olympics

2009-07-05T01:25:25Z

Metaphoricallycrazy:

[[Image:TheCheat Izzy.PNG|thumb|The Cheat As Izzy]]
'''[[Wikipedia:Olympic Games|The Olympics]]''' have [[History of homestarrunner.com|historical significance]] to the [[Homestar Runner universe]] as the [[Original Book]] was created while [[Mike Chapman]] and [[Craig Zobel]] had jobs in the [[Wikipedia:1996 Summer Olympics|1996 Summer Olympics]]. The worldwide sports event receives as much attention in the Homestar universe as it does in the real world.

==Appearances==
*Under [[Fan Stuff]], there is a picture of [[Homestar Runner]] as [[Wikipedia:Speed skating|speed skater]] [[Wikipedia:Apolo Anton Ohno|Apolo Ohno]]. The comment reads "I didn't watch much winter olympics but Stephanie sure did!"
*[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] — [[The Cheat]] dresses up as Izzy, the mascot of the 1996 Olympics.
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]] — [[Strong Bad]] tells [[Marzipan]] that she should get a [[Wikipedia:Cable television|cable TV]] subscription that includes the Olympic Triplecast, which was an extention of [[Wikipedia:NBC|NBC]]'s Olympic coverage.
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|Teeny Tiny Girl Squad]] — After [[Tompkins]] "[[Death|dies]] somehow" his torso, legs and head are seen on a [[Wikipedia: podium|podium]] and the caption reads "torso takes the silver".
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]] — [[Cheerleader]] claims they can't go to [[The Ugly One]]'s party because "they have the Olympics tonight". When it turns out to be a "b'g'rl p'rty", Cheerleader claims that "Coach just called to say the Olympics are dumb", and that "they'll be there like [[Wikipedia:Shareware|shareware]]".
*[[Flashforward]] — the maximum value is eventually labeled "The Olympics!"
*Email [[strong badathlon]] — A whole email about mock-up Olympics called the [[Strong Badathlon (contest)|Strong Badathlon]].
*in [[8-Bit Is Enough]], [[Halfathlon]], a game by Videlectrix featuring "Semi-Legendary Soviet Semi-Athlete Putchnya Shotski" is based around the olympics
==See Also==
*[[Sports]]

[[Category: Inside Jokes]]
[[Category: Entertainment running gags]]

Olympics

2009-07-05T01:24:49Z

Metaphoricallycrazy: updates apperances

[[Image:TheCheat Izzy.PNG|thumb|The Cheat As Izzy]]
'''[[Wikipedia:Olympic Games|The Olympics]]''' have [[History of homestarrunner.com|historical significance]] to the [[Homestar Runner universe]] as the [[Original Book]] was created while [[Mike Chapman]] and [[Craig Zobel]] had jobs in the [[Wikipedia:1996 Summer Olympics|1996 Summer Olympics]]. The worldwide sports event receives as much attention in the Homestar universe as it does in the real world.

==Appearances==
*Under [[Fan Stuff]], there is a picture of [[Homestar Runner]] as [[Wikipedia:Speed skating|speed skater]] [[Wikipedia:Apolo Anton Ohno|Apolo Ohno]]. The comment reads "I didn't watch much winter olympics but Stephanie sure did!"
*[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] — [[The Cheat]] dresses up as Izzy, the mascot of the 1996 Olympics.
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]] — [[Strong Bad]] tells [[Marzipan]] that she should get a [[Wikipedia:Cable television|cable TV]] subscription that includes the Olympic Triplecast, which was an extention of [[Wikipedia:NBC|NBC]]'s Olympic coverage.
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|Teeny Tiny Girl Squad]] — After [[Tompkins]] "[[Death|dies]] somehow" his torso, legs and head are seen on a [[Wikipedia: podium|podium]] and the caption reads "torso takes the silver".
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]] — [[Cheerleader]] claims they can't go to [[The Ugly One]]'s party because "they have the Olympics tonight". When it turns out to be a "b'g'rl p'rty", Cheerleader claims that "Coach just called to say the Olympics are dumb", and that "they'll be there like [[Wikipedia:Shareware|shareware]]".
*[[Flashforward]] — the maximum value is eventually labeled "The Olympics!"
*Email [[strong badathlon]] — A whole email about mock-up Olympics called the [[Strong Badathlon (contest)|Strong Badathlon]].
*[[8-Bit Is Enough]] [[Halfathlon]], a game by Videlectrix featuring "Semi-Legendary Soviet Semi-Athlete Putchnya Shotski" is based around the olympics
==See Also==
*[[Sports]]

[[Category: Inside Jokes]]
[[Category: Entertainment running gags]]

Tiny-Handed Strong Bad

2009-07-05T01:03:44Z

Metaphoricallycrazy:

[[Image:tinyhandedstrongbad.png|thumb|150px|"I'm the very strongest! You guys are not very strong!"]]
'''Tiny-Handed Strong Bad''' (a.k.a. '''T.H.S.B.''') is the name given to [[Strong Bad]] when he is drawn in the style of the [[Original Book]] and cartoons that parody the early work of [[The Brothers Chaps]]. Unlike the exaggerated voice Strong Bad talked with in the early [[Flash]] toons, Tiny-Handed Strong Bad talks in a bland, monotonous voice. He isn't very good at ten-step foot races or lifting grapes, although he is good at playing tennis on [[the moon]] with [[Coach Z]], winning 1,000,000 to 3. He attempted to dig a hole to China with his [[Lack of Visible Body Parts#Ears|ears]]—although it's not evident he accomplished this. He did dig up a giant mug of frosty root beer. He also won [[The Cheat]] and a lifetime supply of fish sticks (which [[The Prince of Town]] may have eaten) by losing a ten step footrace against The [[Homestar Runner]] in [[flashback]]. Instead of having black pants like Strong Bad does, he has red pants.

==Complete Filmography==
*'''Debut:''' [[Original Book]]
*Email [[kids' book]] (Easter egg)
*Email [[flashback]]
*[[Main Page 20]]
*Email [[rock opera]] (voice only)
*Email [[alternate universe]]
*[[The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw]]

[[Category:Character Variations]]
[[Category:Storybook Characters]]

Swedish Flag

2009-07-05T01:01:40Z

Metaphoricallycrazy: english fix

[[Image:sbemail43.PNG|thumb|"Hey, send me some of those Swedish fish."]]

The '''[[Wikipedia:Sweden|Swedish]] Flag''' appeared in [[little questions]]. It gave [[Strong Badia]] Swedish goods (Swedish meatballs and Swedish Fish candies) in an animated political cartoon. In another political cartoon, it was shown doing a dance.

It later appeared on a playing card in [[pom pom]], where it represented the sender of little questions, Viklas. Fellow emailers [[Abdi LaRue]] and [[Monkey D|monkeydude]] also appeared. Apparently, a pair of Abdis and a Viklas is worth more than "a lousy MonkeyDude".

== Complete Filmography ==
*'''Debut:''' Email [[little questions]] (Easter egg)
*Email [[pom pom]] (Easter egg)

[[Category:Inside Jokes]]

Heavy Lourde

2009-07-05T00:59:20Z

Metaphoricallycrazy: it is mispronounciation, not mis-pronounciation

[[Image:heavy_lourde.png|thumb|Would ''you'' like to heave a Heavy Lourde on someone else?]]
[[Image:heavyhomsar.PNG|thumb|The Heavy Lourde doing what it does best.]]

The '''Heavy Lourde''' is an extremely large weight that drops on various characters. The most frequent victim of this weight is [[Homsar]]. In [[French]], "lourde" means "heavy", making the name redundant. "Lourde" might also be a deliberate mispronunciation of "load".

This gag is a reference to countless classic cartoons in which characters were incapacitated by a falling weight or anvil.

The bilingual labeling on the weight may refer to the [[Wikipedia:bilingual sign|bilingual labeling]] of items [[Wikipedia:Bilingualism in Canada|required]] in Canada and becoming more prevalent in the United States since the advent of [[Wikipedia:NAFTA|NAFTA]]. When a bag is over a certain weight, a label is added to the bag saying "Heavy Lourde" on two lines in the same way it appears on the large weight.

In the [[FAQ]], a similar weight (labeled "1 TON") appears in the activity on the last page. Also, in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]], [[What's Her Face]] is squashed by a similar weight reading "NO Pounds".

==Appearances==

*'''Debut:''' Email [[homsar]] — Homsar is squished.
*[[Homsar Main Page]] — Homsar is again squished when the "[[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games]]" button is selected.
*Email [[stunt double]] — [[Strong Sad]] gets "what [he] like[s] to call a broken neck", as a stunt double for [[Strong Bad]], who is playing [[Dangeresque (character)|Dangeresque]], when the Heavy Lourde is dropped on him.
*Email [[garage sale]] — The Heavy Lourde is for sale at Strong Bad's garage sale.
*[[Homestar Ruiner]] — In the second part of the Triannual Race to the End of the Race, competitors must carry the Lourde while jumping on a pogo stick.

[[Category:Weapons]]

User talk:Goldrushcavi

2009-07-04T22:50:36Z

Metaphoricallycrazy: /**/cearialy

== Welcome! ==
Welcome to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki!''' We're glad to have you as a member. If you need any help, feel free to ask anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|welcoming committee]]. You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]].

Here are some tips to get you started:
* If you need general information, editing tips, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents|help]] page.
* Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]].
* Read up on the rules and guidelines for your [[hRWiki:User space|user space]].
* If you're not sure what you can do to help out, head over to [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]].
* To practice editing, go over to the [[HRWiki:Sandbox|sandbox]].
* If you're looking for more community interaction, you can also register over at our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum].
* Above all, be sure to '''be bold''' and have fun!

Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. After all, your user space belongs to you. I hope this information is helpful, and that you'll have a good experience contributing to our knowledge-base and our community.

Sincerely, 
{{User:Salty/sig}}, and "The Homestar Runner Wiki Welcoming Committee" {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:52, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

== cearialy ==

why did you remove my edit on [[hremail3184]]?--[[User:Metaphoricallycrazy|M.Crazy]] | [[User talk:Metaphoricallycrazy|Talk]] 22:50, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

hremail 3184

2009-07-04T22:08:40Z

Metaphoricallycrazy: News Paper

{{hrenav|3184|7|24}}
{{sbenav|201|nolink=true}}
[[Image:hremail3184_intro.png|thumb|"And that, Gordon Tiecollarondemous, is why I decided to ''keep'' calling you Gordon Tiecollarondemous..."]]

Homestar's still checking his [[Hremails]]. Strong Bad's had enough.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, [[Female Lappy 486]], {{Film|Senor Cardgage}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|The Announcer}} (Easter egg)

'''Places (in order of appearance):''' [[The Hremail Room]], [[Computer Room]], [[The Show]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[Bathroom of The Brothers Strong]], [[Athletic Field]], [[Carnival Tent]], [[The Field]], [[The Gymnasium]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Tuesday, June 30, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 5:04

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
''{Homestar is sitting at his [[hremail]] desk. He has bags under his eyes and is slouching. He slips further and further down over the next line.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{half-mumbling}'' And that, Gordon Tiecollarondemous, is why I decided to ''keep'' calling you Gordon Tiecollarondemous...

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{from off-screen}'' Aaah! ''{A record scratch is heard.}'' I can't takes it no more!

''{Cut to Strong Bad, screaming.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Somebody hand me a rake!

''{A rake is handed to Strong Bad. He grabs it and smacks Homestar with it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Raaaake!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{dropping the rake}'' Somebody hand me a shovel!

''{A shovel is handed to him. He smacks Homestar with it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Shovel!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{dropping the shovel}'' Somebody hand me a Garden Weasel!

''{A tool with a very spiky end is handed to Strong Bad. Again, he hits Homestar. Homestar comes back up with a "CENSORED" sign over his face; bruises and a stream of blood can be seen around it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{calmly}'' Aw, a Weasel.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{wiping his brow}'' Phew.

''{Pan over to show Marzipan, holding the rake and shovel.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thanks, Marzipan!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Always happy to help!

''{Cut to the Lappy. Strong Bad sits down in front of it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Sorry, Lappy. My triumphant return to checking emails calls for some fresh blood!

''{He closes the Lappy, leaving a faint backwards "Lappy 486" in the wall behind it. He pushes it off to the side.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Tech nerds, feast your eyes... on ''Steak Sandwich!''

''{He places said sandwich on the desk in front of him to a trumpet fanfare. Cut to a solo image of the sandwich.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' The Steaky Steaky 6 Millenium Edition ''{a steak-shaped logo for this appears in the corner}'' is a processing wonder horse, capable of sauteed onions, ''{a logo for "Sauteed Onions Ghz" appears}'' grilled mushrooms, ''{a logo for "Grilled Mushrooms 32x" appears}'' and all right, never mind.

''{The Steak logo swivels as though its left side was no longer supported while the other logos fall off the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' This is just a steak sandwich, isn't it?

''{Cut to a rear view of the desk, as Strong Bad looks at the sandwich.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You know, I guess I'm a little... out-of-practice with this stuff. ''{to the Lappy}'' All right, Lappy, you can stay alive for at least one more week.

''{He pushes the sandwich aside and returns the Lappy to its rightful position. He opens the Lappy and a startup tone is heard. Cut to behind Strong Bad. The Female Lappy is visible.}''

'''FEMALE LAPPY 486:''' Another week with you, Strong Bad, is like 8 dog-weeks in cat-years.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, are you sure you're not Senor Cardgage's computer?

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' ''{from offscreen}'' No...

''{Cut back to show Senor Cardgage standing near Strong Bad, holding the sandwich.}''

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' This steak samwich is Beverly ''clearly'' my compooter, Bathsheba.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{smiling}'' Hey, Cardgage! D'you wanna help me come out of e-tirement?

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Ummmmm... no.

''{Strong Bad lowers his head in disappointment. Senor Cardgage turns around and starts walking in place while his hair gets slightly blown, and sounds of traffic are heard. Strong Bad looks up in confusion, and starts to nervously lean back.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm quite scared right now.

''{Cut to the Lappy as Strong Bad turns back to it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Let's start over. ''{types "strongbad_email.exe"}'' Oh, man, I haven't checked my email in so long, I bet there's gonna be a half-zillion messages waiting for me!

''{He presses Return. The following comes up with a ding: "Oh, smokes! You have 2 new messages!", which are "Coolness" from "Kelly" and "Thanks for loaning me your rake" from "Homestar".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh. Well, a half-''four'' messages waiting for me isn't bad. ''{He brings up "Coolness".}''

<blockquote class="email"><div>subject: coolness</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
What was the coolest explosion you ever saw? 
 
From, 
Kelly 
USA
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad echos his own name. He says Kelly's name in a slightly seductive tone, leading into "USA" as "Oosa".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Mmmm! An exotic lady from the far east! ''{typing}'' That's kind of a vague question don'tcha think? That's like me asking, "Dear Kelly, what's your favorite molecule of air that you've breathed?" ''{not typed}'' Or... ''{clears screen, typing:}'' "What's your favorite Strong Bad muscle that you wanted to rub with hot oils?" You gotta narrow it down somehow. Like, do you wanna know about the coolest looking explosion I ever rigged up in Strong Sad's org-ethnic breakfast pouch on a Tuesday?

''{Cut to the kitchen of the Brothers Strong. Strong Bad is pretending to eat from a cereal bowl with a spoon. Strong Sad is standing next to him, wearing a tuxedo, and looking expectantly at a toaster.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{poorly acting}'' Mmm. This cereal is sooooo cerealy.

''{The toaster pops up a breakfast pastry with a conspicuous red light on it. Strong Sad catches it. Over the next line, the light begins to blink faster and faster while making ticking noises.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, child! I am gonna enjoy this saag paneer Pop-Tart with a vengeance! Then I've got to go stand around in this tuxedo with a ven— OOOHHH!!

''{The Pop-Tart explodes into green goo, which gets all over Strong Sad and leaves a green stain on the wall behind him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Waa-ha-ha-ha!

''{Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Or do you wanna know like, the coolest explosion I ever saw that had one of those blast-wavy Saturn rings around it that've become so popular lately.

''{Cut to Strong Bad in his bathroom, holding a newspaper.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' 'Cuz I've caused ''plenty'' of those.

''{Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' But the coolest part was actually later on, when I was telling Coach Z all about it.

''{Cut to the Athletic Field. Strong Bad is talking to Coach Z.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And so first, there was this little explosion, that was like "Doooooosh!" ''{some drops of spit fly away from him toward Coach Z}''

'''COACH Z:''' Ya don't say?

'''STRONG BAD:''' And then secondary charges blew and it was like, "Ka-plssshhhhh!" ''{more drops of spit fly toward Coach Z}''

'''COACH Z:''' You say?

'''STRONG BAD:''' And finally one of those blast-wavy Saturn rings that've become so popular lately shot out, and was like "PSSSSSSHHHHH!!!!"

''{Strong Bad draws out the explosion. A wave of spit drops fly toward Coach Z. Coach Z pulls out a bar of soap and a bottle of "PORT PLUS +". He rubs the soap on his body and dumps some shampoo over his hat. He then tosses the bottle away and rubs his hat, which becomes sudsy.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Thanks for the great story, Strong Bad! I was gonna hit the showers, but now I don't has to!

''{Strong Bad spits a few more drops toward Coach Z. Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Everybody knows that the more spit it takes to describe an explosion, the cooler said explosion was. ''And'' the cooler said explosion-talker-abouter is!

''{Cut to Strong Sad talking to Coach Z in the Athletic Field.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' And then my saag paneer Pop-Tart said it like... "Ptoo."

''{A single large drop of spit flies toward Coach Z.}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{angrily}'' Are you kiddin' me? I can't even warsh my hands with that mess!

''{Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' But if history has taught us anything, then we all know that the coolest explosions have come from my very own computers.

''{A quick montage results where the Tandy explodes, throwing Strong Bad back, Strong Bad knocks the Tandy off the desk with an inexplicable explosion, Bubs' shotgun blows a hole in the Compy, Strong Mad gulps from a mini-explosion from the Compy, and the Tandy explodes in a green pixelated mushroom cloud with Homestar nearby. Cut back to the Lappy, with the female Lappy visible.}''

'''FEMALE LAPPY 486:''' But waimt, Strong Bad, does that means?

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm afraid so, sweet Lappy. I figured that USB self-destruct button I bought a couple weeks ago woulda clued you in.

''{Cut to a closeup of a big red button with "dooj" written on it, connected to the Lappy via USB. Then cut to a rear view of the desk.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' But... it's time. ''{Cut to behind Strong Bad}'' Why wait around for someone else to blow up your computer tomorrow when you can blow it up yourself today?

'''FEMALE LAPPY 486:''' You should put that on your bwees-ness cards.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sadly}'' That's a great idea, Lappy. ''{cut to rear view of the desk}'' Good bye. ''{presses the button}'' Dooj.

''{Cut to a silhouette of the house with a tree beside it. The explosion knocks the tree away and blows the roof clear of the house. Two shockwaves appear as part of the explosion. A ghostly image of the Female Lappy icon with fangs appears in the explosion.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' So popular lately.

''{Cut to Bubs and Coach Z on lawn chairs, watching the explosion.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oooooor! Awwwwwr! 
'''BUBS:''' Ooooooh! Awwwwww!

'''COACH Z:''' I can't wait till Strong Bad tells me 'bout that one. I'm'a go ahead and strip down to da nude!

'''BUBS:''' ''{pointing at Coach Z}'' Ponk!

''{Cut to Strong Bad, standing next to the desk. Strong Bad himself is unharmed, but the desk it broken in two from the explosion, and the paint has been torn away.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And now that—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{poking in from the side; quickly}'' Don't call it a comeback.

'''STRONG BAD:''' —is what I call—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{more angrily; still quickly}'' Don't call it a comeback.

'''STRONG BAD:''' —a—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{disappears off the side and reappears upside-down}'' Don't call it a comeback.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{jumping forward on his knee}'' —comeback!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{disappears and reappears rightside-up, makes an annoyed sigh}''

''{Homestar disappears while Strong Bad looks upward.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, if a paper survived that, maybe come down... now?

''{Black ashes fall from the top of the screen. Strong Bad looks down at them.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh. Looks like I need a new one of those, too.

==Easter Eggs==
*When the [[Lappy]] tells [[Strong Bad]] to put his catch phrase about computer destruction on his "bwees-ness" cards, click "bwees-ness card" to see a business card for a computer destruction business.
*At the end, click on the hole in the wall to see an exchange between [[Strong Sad]] as the Gardenboy from [[yes, wrestling]] and [[The Announcer]].
:''{Cut to a scene at the [[Gymnasium]] with The Announcer at the left and Garden Boy at the right}''
:'''STRONG SAD:''' Well, you know, announcer man, that's right! All you gophers out there better listen up! The Magnificent Marzipan stole all Garden Boy's garden tools, and I don't care if she's a women's champion, a men's champion, a half woman-half man's champion... Uh, do we have one of those?
:'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Uh, yes, I believe we do.
:'''STRONG SAD:''' Well, can I fight them instead?

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Saag|Saag paneer]] is an Indian curry based dish consisting of spinach, mustard leaf, and cheese.

===Trivia===
[[File:Homestar uncensored.png|thumb|"Aw, a Weasel."]]
*The hiatus between [[email thunder]] and this email (280 days, or nine months and one week) is the longest gap between any two Strong Bad Emails.
*Although it is only visible for a fraction of a second, the text on Homestar's desk has now been changed to "Still this guy!"
*When the Flash file is decompiled, Homestar's battered face is visible behind the censored box.
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container|mega race]]".
*This episode marks the first time Strong Bad actually acknowledges how creepy [[Senor Cardgage]] is.
*This is the first time the exterior of [[House of the Brothers Strong|Strong Bad's house]] is shown outside of [[SBCG4AP]].
*Strong Bad's [[Periodicals|newspaper]] contains the following [[News Articles|articles]]:
{| style="border-collapse: collapse; border: 3px solid #999"
| style="border-right: 3px solid #999; font-size: 2em; text-align: center; line-height: 1em; padding: 5px; font-family:Times New Roman,serif" | Back Pape
| style="border-left: 3px solid #999; font-size: 2em; text-align: center; line-height: 1em; padding: 5px; font-family:Times New Roman,serif" | Da NewsPapes
|-
| style="border-right: 3px solid #999; padding: 5px; font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:120%" | A sports player signed a contract worth a bunch of money. "Whooey!" said the player's uncle. "I could buy a car with that much cashness."
| style="border-left: 3px solid #999; padding: 5px; font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:120%" | Global relations set all types of box office records this weekend. Studio execs were encouraged by the turn -around. So was I.
|}
===Remarks===
* In [[virus]], the virus caused everything to become corrupted. As part of the corruption, Bubs' shotgun resembled Homestar's leg. However, in the flashback, the shotgun is clearly still a shotgun even before the [[Compy 386]] is shot.
** After the virus was gone, Bubs was seen using a pump action shotgun, when in this clip, it is a double-barreled shotgun.
* Homestar Runner's email was not blocked by Edgar's Baby's Daddy or his Idiot Filter, as all Homestar emails are in [[candy product]] and [[Strong Badia the Free]], respectively.
* The USB standard had not yet been invented at the time 486-based laptops were available.
* This email contains several instances of [[Deliberately Poor English]].

===Goofs===
*When Homestar is hit with the Garden Weasel, his face is still visible. The bruises, scars, and blood only appear ''after'' the camera zooms in.
*When the ashes of the paper come down, they fall in front of Strong Bad, but after, some are behind Strong Bad on the floor.
*When Strong Bad is holding the Garden Weasel and wiping his head, the arm wiping his head is not visible.
*The word "millennium" is misspelled during the description of the steak sandwich.
*For one frame the black part of Strong Bad's mask in the reflection comes off the Tandy when Strong Bad punches it.
*Strong Bad's pants switch from having a purple sheen to having a gray sheen during the course of the cartoon.


===Inside References===
*The text on the mug on Homestar's desk appears to read "Auntie Gertr♥de's Tea", which is likely a reference to [[Aunt Gert]], the pantyhose doll from [[garage sale]].
*The explosion montage comprises scenes from [[gimmicks]], [[invisibility]] (slightly modified; see below), [[virus]] (not previously depicted), [[retirement]] (B), and [[retirement]] (A), respectively.
**In his flashback, the broken [[Tandy 400]] explodes when Strong Bad knocks it off his desk. There was no such explosion in [[invisibility]].
*[[Onomatopoeia|Dooj]], as the USB self-destruct button reads, is a common sound effect used for explosions in the Homestar Runner Universe.
*The scene of Bubs and Coach Z in the field is reminiscent of [[Happy Fireworks]], in which the two watched [[fireworks]] in a similar fashion.
**Likewise, the can of [[Cold One#Coldson Lite|Coldson Lite]] reappears.
*Strong Sad's "Gardenboy" wrestling persona (seen in the Easter egg) originated in the email [[yes, wrestling]].
*The entire toon is about [[explosions]].
*Strong Bad [[Strong Bad Smiling|smiles]] when Senor Cardgage first shows up in his house, and he and [[Strong Sad Smiling|Strong Sad]] both smile in the Pop-Tart scene.
*Although censored, [[blood]] can still be seen trickling down Homestar Runner's face after being hit with the garden weasel.
*The scene in which Strong Bad introduces his "new computer" is a parody of the [[Lappy 486]]'s intro in the email [[animal]]. The background is originally from [[The Show]].
*Coach Z's "Port Plus" was previously mentioned in [[Jibblies 2]], where he asked the [[Horrible Painting]] for some.
*The Lappy's pronunciation "bwees-ness" was used previously in [[theme park]], where Strong Bad makes fun of how the email's author misspells "business".
*Strong Sad exclaiming "Oh, child!" echoes [[retirement]], when the Lappy exclaimed the same thing.
*The "Fightin' Coach Zs" logo from [[One Two, One Two]] appears on the athletic field.
*Strong Bad's line "Aaah! I can't takes it no more!" from offscreen is reminiscent of [[First Time Here?]].
*"Org-ethnic" is a [[portmanteau]] of "[[organic]]" and "ethnic".

===Real-World References===
*The [[Wikipedia:Garden Weasel|Garden Weasel]] is a garden implement made famous mainly through late night infomercials.
* Strong Bad's remark that Kelly-Usa sounds exotic is a reference to the [http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/usa.asp urban legend] about Japan renaming a town Usa. This legend was also referenced in [[Donut Unto Others]].
*Senor Cardgage's "Beverly clearly" is a reference to children's author [[Wikipedia:Beverly Cleary|Beverly Cleary]].
* Senor Cardgage calles Strong Bad Bathsheba who is a character in the bible. She was married to King David.
* A [[Wikipedia:Pop-Tarts|Pop-Tart]] is a popular breakfast pastry that comes in several flavors and is commonly prepared with a toaster.
*Coach Z's "PORT PLUS +" is a reference to the shampoo/conditioner "Pert Plus", just in a Coach Z accent.
*Strong Bad's "Dooj" button resembles the "Easy" button from commercials for [[Wikipedia:Staples Inc.|Staples]], an office supply chain.
*Homestar repeating the phrase "Don't call it a comeback", is a reference to the first line of "[[WIkipedia:Mama_Said_Knock_You_Out_(song)|Mama Said Knock You Out]]" by [[Wikipedia:LL Cool J|LL Cool J]].
*Gardenboy's line in the Easter Egg that he doesn't care if Marzipan is a "women's champion or man's champion..." is a nod to [[Wikipedia:Andy_Kaufman|Andy Kaufman]], the intergender wrestling champion.
*The appearance of Female Lappy 486 in the mushroom cloud explosion is most likely a reference to Alfred Nobel's supposed appearance in the test of the first atomic bomb explosion in 1945.
*Strongbad's comment about his cereal being "So cearealy" may have been a refference to Al Gore in the South Park episode "Manpigbear"

==External Links==
*[[HR:hremail3184.html|watch "hremail3184"]]
*[[HR:hremail3184.swf|view the Flash file for "hremail3184"]]
*[[Forum:15632|forum thread re: "hremail3184"]]

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hremail 3184

2009-07-04T21:55:21Z

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[[Image:hremail3184_intro.png|thumb|"And that, Gordon Tiecollarondemous, is why I decided to ''keep'' calling you Gordon Tiecollarondemous..."]]

Homestar's still checking his [[Hremails]]. Strong Bad's had enough.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, [[Female Lappy 486]], {{Film|Senor Cardgage}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|The Announcer}} (Easter egg)

'''Places (in order of appearance):''' [[The Hremail Room]], [[Computer Room]], [[The Show]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[Bathroom of The Brothers Strong]], [[Athletic Field]], [[Carnival Tent]], [[The Field]], [[The Gymnasium]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Tuesday, June 30, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 5:04

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
''{Homestar is sitting at his [[hremail]] desk. He has bags under his eyes and is slouching. He slips further and further down over the next line.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{half-mumbling}'' And that, Gordon Tiecollarondemous, is why I decided to ''keep'' calling you Gordon Tiecollarondemous...

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{from off-screen}'' Aaah! ''{A record scratch is heard.}'' I can't takes it no more!

''{Cut to Strong Bad, screaming.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Somebody hand me a rake!

''{A rake is handed to Strong Bad. He grabs it and smacks Homestar with it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Raaaake!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{dropping the rake}'' Somebody hand me a shovel!

''{A shovel is handed to him. He smacks Homestar with it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Shovel!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{dropping the shovel}'' Somebody hand me a Garden Weasel!

''{A tool with a very spiky end is handed to Strong Bad. Again, he hits Homestar. Homestar comes back up with a "CENSORED" sign over his face; bruises and a stream of blood can be seen around it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{calmly}'' Aw, a Weasel.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{wiping his brow}'' Phew.

''{Pan over to show Marzipan, holding the rake and shovel.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thanks, Marzipan!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Always happy to help!

''{Cut to the Lappy. Strong Bad sits down in front of it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Sorry, Lappy. My triumphant return to checking emails calls for some fresh blood!

''{He closes the Lappy, leaving a faint backwards "Lappy 486" in the wall behind it. He pushes it off to the side.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Tech nerds, feast your eyes... on ''Steak Sandwich!''

''{He places said sandwich on the desk in front of him to a trumpet fanfare. Cut to a solo image of the sandwich.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' The Steaky Steaky 6 Millenium Edition ''{a steak-shaped logo for this appears in the corner}'' is a processing wonder horse, capable of sauteed onions, ''{a logo for "Sauteed Onions Ghz" appears}'' grilled mushrooms, ''{a logo for "Grilled Mushrooms 32x" appears}'' and all right, never mind.

''{The Steak logo swivels as though its left side was no longer supported while the other logos fall off the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' This is just a steak sandwich, isn't it?

''{Cut to a rear view of the desk, as Strong Bad looks at the sandwich.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You know, I guess I'm a little... out-of-practice with this stuff. ''{to the Lappy}'' All right, Lappy, you can stay alive for at least one more week.

''{He pushes the sandwich aside and returns the Lappy to its rightful position. He opens the Lappy and a startup tone is heard. Cut to behind Strong Bad. The Female Lappy is visible.}''

'''FEMALE LAPPY 486:''' Another week with you, Strong Bad, is like 8 dog-weeks in cat-years.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, are you sure you're not Senor Cardgage's computer?

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' ''{from offscreen}'' No...

''{Cut back to show Senor Cardgage standing near Strong Bad, holding the sandwich.}''

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' This steak samwich is Beverly ''clearly'' my compooter, Bathsheba.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{smiling}'' Hey, Cardgage! D'you wanna help me come out of e-tirement?

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Ummmmm... no.

''{Strong Bad lowers his head in disappointment. Senor Cardgage turns around and starts walking in place while his hair gets slightly blown, and sounds of traffic are heard. Strong Bad looks up in confusion, and starts to nervously lean back.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm quite scared right now.

''{Cut to the Lappy as Strong Bad turns back to it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Let's start over. ''{types "strongbad_email.exe"}'' Oh, man, I haven't checked my email in so long, I bet there's gonna be a half-zillion messages waiting for me!

''{He presses Return. The following comes up with a ding: "Oh, smokes! You have 2 new messages!", which are "Coolness" from "Kelly" and "Thanks for loaning me your rake" from "Homestar".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh. Well, a half-''four'' messages waiting for me isn't bad. ''{He brings up "Coolness".}''

<blockquote class="email"><div>subject: coolness</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
What was the coolest explosion you ever saw? 
 
From, 
Kelly 
USA
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad echos his own name. He says Kelly's name in a slightly seductive tone, leading into "USA" as "Oosa".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Mmmm! An exotic lady from the far east! ''{typing}'' That's kind of a vague question don'tcha think? That's like me asking, "Dear Kelly, what's your favorite molecule of air that you've breathed?" ''{not typed}'' Or... ''{clears screen, typing:}'' "What's your favorite Strong Bad muscle that you wanted to rub with hot oils?" You gotta narrow it down somehow. Like, do you wanna know about the coolest looking explosion I ever rigged up in Strong Sad's org-ethnic breakfast pouch on a Tuesday?

''{Cut to the kitchen of the Brothers Strong. Strong Bad is pretending to eat from a cereal bowl with a spoon. Strong Sad is standing next to him, wearing a tuxedo, and looking expectantly at a toaster.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{poorly acting}'' Mmm. This cereal is sooooo cerealy.

''{The toaster pops up a breakfast pastry with a conspicuous red light on it. Strong Sad catches it. Over the next line, the light begins to blink faster and faster while making ticking noises.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, child! I am gonna enjoy this saag paneer Pop-Tart with a vengeance! Then I've got to go stand around in this tuxedo with a ven— OOOHHH!!

''{The Pop-Tart explodes into green goo, which gets all over Strong Sad and leaves a green stain on the wall behind him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Waa-ha-ha-ha!

''{Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Or do you wanna know like, the coolest explosion I ever saw that had one of those blast-wavy Saturn rings around it that've become so popular lately.

''{Cut to Strong Bad in his bathroom, holding a newspaper.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' 'Cuz I've caused ''plenty'' of those.

''{Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' But the coolest part was actually later on, when I was telling Coach Z all about it.

''{Cut to the Athletic Field. Strong Bad is talking to Coach Z.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And so first, there was this little explosion, that was like "Doooooosh!" ''{some drops of spit fly away from him toward Coach Z}''

'''COACH Z:''' Ya don't say?

'''STRONG BAD:''' And then secondary charges blew and it was like, "Ka-plssshhhhh!" ''{more drops of spit fly toward Coach Z}''

'''COACH Z:''' You say?

'''STRONG BAD:''' And finally one of those blast-wavy Saturn rings that've become so popular lately shot out, and was like "PSSSSSSHHHHH!!!!"

''{Strong Bad draws out the explosion. A wave of spit drops fly toward Coach Z. Coach Z pulls out a bar of soap and a bottle of "PORT PLUS +". He rubs the soap on his body and dumps some shampoo over his hat. He then tosses the bottle away and rubs his hat, which becomes sudsy.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Thanks for the great story, Strong Bad! I was gonna hit the showers, but now I don't has to!

''{Strong Bad spits a few more drops toward Coach Z. Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Everybody knows that the more spit it takes to describe an explosion, the cooler said explosion was. ''And'' the cooler said explosion-talker-abouter is!

''{Cut to Strong Sad talking to Coach Z in the Athletic Field.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' And then my saag paneer Pop-Tart said it like... "Ptoo."

''{A single large drop of spit flies toward Coach Z.}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{angrily}'' Are you kiddin' me? I can't even warsh my hands with that mess!

''{Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' But if history has taught us anything, then we all know that the coolest explosions have come from my very own computers.

''{A quick montage results where the Tandy explodes, throwing Strong Bad back, Strong Bad knocks the Tandy off the desk with an inexplicable explosion, Bubs' shotgun blows a hole in the Compy, Strong Mad gulps from a mini-explosion from the Compy, and the Tandy explodes in a green pixelated mushroom cloud with Homestar nearby. Cut back to the Lappy, with the female Lappy visible.}''

'''FEMALE LAPPY 486:''' But waimt, Strong Bad, does that means?

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm afraid so, sweet Lappy. I figured that USB self-destruct button I bought a couple weeks ago woulda clued you in.

''{Cut to a closeup of a big red button with "dooj" written on it, connected to the Lappy via USB. Then cut to a rear view of the desk.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' But... it's time. ''{Cut to behind Strong Bad}'' Why wait around for someone else to blow up your computer tomorrow when you can blow it up yourself today?

'''FEMALE LAPPY 486:''' You should put that on your bwees-ness cards.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sadly}'' That's a great idea, Lappy. ''{cut to rear view of the desk}'' Good bye. ''{presses the button}'' Dooj.

''{Cut to a silhouette of the house with a tree beside it. The explosion knocks the tree away and blows the roof clear of the house. Two shockwaves appear as part of the explosion. A ghostly image of the Female Lappy icon with fangs appears in the explosion.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' So popular lately.

''{Cut to Bubs and Coach Z on lawn chairs, watching the explosion.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oooooor! Awwwwwr! 
'''BUBS:''' Ooooooh! Awwwwww!

'''COACH Z:''' I can't wait till Strong Bad tells me 'bout that one. I'm'a go ahead and strip down to da nude!

'''BUBS:''' ''{pointing at Coach Z}'' Ponk!

''{Cut to Strong Bad, standing next to the desk. Strong Bad himself is unharmed, but the desk it broken in two from the explosion, and the paint has been torn away.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And now that—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{poking in from the side; quickly}'' Don't call it a comeback.

'''STRONG BAD:''' —is what I call—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{more angrily; still quickly}'' Don't call it a comeback.

'''STRONG BAD:''' —a—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{disappears off the side and reappears upside-down}'' Don't call it a comeback.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{jumping forward on his knee}'' —comeback!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{disappears and reappears rightside-up, makes an annoyed sigh}''

''{Homestar disappears while Strong Bad looks upward.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, if a paper survived that, maybe come down... now?

''{Black ashes fall from the top of the screen. Strong Bad looks down at them.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh. Looks like I need a new one of those, too.

==Easter Eggs==
*When the [[Lappy]] tells [[Strong Bad]] to put his catch phrase about computer destruction on his "bwees-ness" cards, click "bwees-ness card" to see a business card for a computer destruction business.
*At the end, click on the hole in the wall to see an exchange between [[Strong Sad]] as the Gardenboy from [[yes, wrestling]] and [[The Announcer]].
:''{Cut to a scene at the [[Gymnasium]] with The Announcer at the left and Garden Boy at the right}''
:'''STRONG SAD:''' Well, you know, announcer man, that's right! All you gophers out there better listen up! The Magnificent Marzipan stole all Garden Boy's garden tools, and I don't care if she's a women's champion, a men's champion, a half woman-half man's champion... Uh, do we have one of those?
:'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Uh, yes, I believe we do.
:'''STRONG SAD:''' Well, can I fight them instead?

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Saag|Saag paneer]] is an Indian curry based dish consisting of spinach, mustard leaf, and cheese.

===Trivia===
[[File:Homestar uncensored.png|thumb|"Aw, a Weasel."]]
*The hiatus between [[email thunder]] and this email (280 days, or nine months and one week) is the longest gap between any two Strong Bad Emails.
*Although it is only visible for a fraction of a second, the text on Homestar's desk has now been changed to "Still this guy!"
*When the Flash file is decompiled, Homestar's battered face is visible behind the censored box.
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container|mega race]]".
*This episode marks the first time Strong Bad actually acknowledges how creepy [[Senor Cardgage]] is.
*This is the first time the exterior of [[House of the Brothers Strong|Strong Bad's house]] is shown outside of [[SBCG4AP]].

===Remarks===
* In [[virus]], the virus caused everything to become corrupted. As part of the corruption, Bubs' shotgun resembled Homestar's leg. However, in the flashback, the shotgun is clearly still a shotgun even before the [[Compy 386]] is shot.
** After the virus was gone, Bubs was seen using a pump action shotgun, when in this clip, it is a double-barreled shotgun.
* Homestar Runner's email was not blocked by Edgar's Baby's Daddy or his Idiot Filter, as all Homestar emails are in [[candy product]] and [[Strong Badia the Free]], respectively.
* The USB standard had not yet been invented at the time 486-based laptops were available.
* This email contains several instances of [[Deliberately Poor English]].

===Goofs===
*When Homestar is hit with the Garden Weasel, his face is still visible. The bruises, scars, and blood only appear ''after'' the camera zooms in.
*When the ashes of the paper come down, they fall in front of Strong Bad, but after, some are behind Strong Bad on the floor.
*When Strong Bad is holding the Garden Weasel and wiping his head, the arm wiping his head is not visible.
*The word "millennium" is misspelled during the description of the steak sandwich.
*For one frame the black part of Strong Bad's mask in the reflection comes off the Tandy when Strong Bad punches it.
*Strong Bad's pants switch from having a purple sheen to having a gray sheen during the course of the cartoon.


===Inside References===
*The text on the mug on Homestar's desk appears to read "Auntie Gertr♥de's Tea", which is likely a reference to [[Aunt Gert]], the pantyhose doll from [[garage sale]].
*The explosion montage comprises scenes from [[gimmicks]], [[invisibility]] (slightly modified; see below), [[virus]] (not previously depicted), [[retirement]] (B), and [[retirement]] (A), respectively.
**In his flashback, the broken [[Tandy 400]] explodes when Strong Bad knocks it off his desk. There was no such explosion in [[invisibility]].
*[[Onomatopoeia|Dooj]], as the USB self-destruct button reads, is a common sound effect used for explosions in the Homestar Runner Universe.
*The scene of Bubs and Coach Z in the field is reminiscent of [[Happy Fireworks]], in which the two watched [[fireworks]] in a similar fashion.
**Likewise, the can of [[Cold One#Coldson Lite|Coldson Lite]] reappears.
*Strong Sad's "Gardenboy" wrestling persona (seen in the Easter egg) originated in the email [[yes, wrestling]].
*The entire toon is about [[explosions]].
*Strong Bad [[Strong Bad Smiling|smiles]] when Senor Cardgage first shows up in his house, and he and [[Strong Sad Smiling|Strong Sad]] both smile in the Pop-Tart scene.
*Although censored, [[blood]] can still be seen trickling down Homestar Runner's face after being hit with the garden weasel.
*The scene in which Strong Bad introduces his "new computer" is a parody of the [[Lappy 486]]'s intro in the email [[animal]]. The background is originally from [[The Show]].
*Coach Z's "Port Plus" was previously mentioned in [[Jibblies 2]], where he asked the [[Horrible Painting]] for some.
*The Lappy's pronunciation "bwees-ness" was used previously in [[theme park]], where Strong Bad makes fun of how the email's author misspells "business".
*Strong Sad exclaiming "Oh, child!" echoes [[retirement]], when the Lappy exclaimed the same thing.
*The "Fightin' Coach Zs" logo from [[One Two, One Two]] appears on the athletic field.
*Strong Bad's line "Aaah! I can't takes it no more!" from offscreen is reminiscent of [[First Time Here?]].
*"Org-ethnic" is a [[portmanteau]] of "[[organic]]" and "ethnic".

===Real-World References===
*The [[Wikipedia:Garden Weasel|Garden Weasel]] is a garden implement made famous mainly through late night infomercials.
* Strong Bad's remark that Kelly-Usa sounds exotic is a reference to the [http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/usa.asp urban legend] about Japan renaming a town Usa. This legend was also referenced in [[Donut Unto Others]].
*Senor Cardgage's "Beverly clearly" is a reference to children's author [[Wikipedia:Beverly Cleary|Beverly Cleary]].
* Senor Cardgage calles Strong Bad Bathsheba who is a character in the bible. She was married to King David.
* A [[Wikipedia:Pop-Tarts|Pop-Tart]] is a popular breakfast pastry that comes in several flavors and is commonly prepared with a toaster.
*Coach Z's "PORT PLUS +" is a reference to the shampoo/conditioner "Pert Plus", just in a Coach Z accent.
*Strong Bad's "Dooj" button resembles the "Easy" button from commercials for [[Wikipedia:Staples Inc.|Staples]], an office supply chain.
*Homestar repeating the phrase "Don't call it a comeback", is a reference to the first line of "[[WIkipedia:Mama_Said_Knock_You_Out_(song)|Mama Said Knock You Out]]" by [[Wikipedia:LL Cool J|LL Cool J]].
*Gardenboy's line in the Easter Egg that he doesn't care if Marzipan is a "women's champion or man's champion..." is a nod to [[Wikipedia:Andy_Kaufman|Andy Kaufman]], the intergender wrestling champion.
*The appearance of Female Lappy 486 in the mushroom cloud explosion is most likely a reference to Alfred Nobel's supposed appearance in the test of the first atomic bomb explosion in 1945.
*Strongbad's comment about his cereal being "So cearealy" may have been a refference to Al Gore in the South Park episode "Manpigbear"

==External Links==
*[[HR:hremail3184.html|watch "hremail3184"]]
*[[HR:hremail3184.swf|view the Flash file for "hremail3184"]]
*[[Forum:15632|forum thread re: "hremail3184"]]

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User talk:DEIDATVM

2009-07-04T02:19:12Z

Metaphoricallycrazy: /**/ASoUE

==Trivia question==
Just reminding you juys that this still exists! See my user page for the question(s). {{User:Mee/sig}} 13:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
===Aug 27, 2007===

==awsome sig man==

Hey mee, I like your sig. 'Tis funny. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 20:13, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Thank you, mister person guy dude man person. {{User:Mee/sig}}
:You can just call me "Bubsty." {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 20:19, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
::'K, Bubsty. {{User:Mee/sig}}

===Length Problem===

*Sorry about this, but your sig is just slightly too long. It must fit in this box:

{{sigbox|User:Mee/sig}}

I would suggest taking off the brackets and < >, which should bring it down to size.-{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}
**I changed it from a slightly obvious reference to [[pom pom]] to an obscure reference to [[mascot]].
***...and from obscure to obvious.

==Hi==

Hey there. I'm Homsarroks. I just dropped in to say hi.--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 18:15, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Random hi! {{User:Mee/sig}}

Yay! Randomness is awesome.--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 22:54, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes. "Let's sing a song of Pennzoil!" {{User:Mee/sig}}

Silly Rabbit. Trix are for KIDS!{{User:Bryanc/sig}}

MCFLY! {{User:Mee/sig}}

um...not pigeons....{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}

3-D Movie! {{User:Mee/sig}}

today's the big day....sbemail 173!!! {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}

Tomorrow's the big... dorrow. I have a no idea why. {{User:Mee/sig}} {{CURRENTTIME}} July 2nd, 20X7

Back to random Hi! Yay! {{User:The thing/sig}} 15:05, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Don't ask Mee why... pumpernickel and rye... {{User:Mee/sig}} T:IA, Z _|[_]|_`/ ZOOT

:And I'll never forget the way it was, GRRL! [[flashback]] [[User:Chipwich|Chipwich]] 22:49, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

== Tables ==

Hey, I wish i could help ya there. I'd suggest looking at user pages of sysops and other experienced users till you find one with tables looking as you'd like, then ask that peron on their talk. Good luck with that. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:28, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
:Okay, I did ''half'' of what you suggested. I think it looks good enough. {{User:Mee/sig}} 14:35, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== YES ==
All your answers were correct. Take the Userboxes and try the riddle. (...if you want...)--{{User:SantanaHomerunner/sig}} 18:58, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

== Mi'l Town ==
Oh of course. Nothing beats Orange County, NY. [[User:JasonDeLima|JasonDeLima]] 03:08, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
:Cool. {{User:Mee/sig}} 10:11, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

== Poopsmith Image ==

Hey, Mee. I noticed you uploaded a new version of The Poopsmith with a snorkel. I uploaded one right after you, but I didn't know you had already uploaded yours. I tried to re-upload yours, but it didn't turn out right. Could you upload the image you first uploaded again? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 13:13, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:Just wait until it changes to the actual image. It takes a while. {{User:Mee/sig}} 13:15, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

== Yay! ==
You won Person of the Day! {{User:Numa Numa/sig}}
:Hooray! {{User:Mee/sig}} 16:43, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

== Game Trivia ==
You won everything but hard! Hard was a card game maker. {{User:Numa Numa/sig}}

== Shattered ==

Is ok you took two pitches. The Stones ref was worth it. What a mess, this towns in tatters. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:15, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
*I ''thought'' it was worth it. And ain't you hungry for success success success success? {{User:Mee/sig}} 11:32, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

== ASoUE ==

Didn't you used to be on the snicket wiki?--[[User:Metaphoricallycrazy|M.Crazy]] | [[User talk:Metaphoricallycrazy|Talk]] 02:19, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Talk:do over

2009-07-04T01:00:51Z

Metaphoricallycrazy:

==Homestar's costume==

This article states that: "{Homestar Runner shuffles up on his knees. He's scribbled yellow marker on himself, attached some black thing to his head, and put black dots all on one side to look like The Cheat.}" Given that The Cheat is dressed as Homestar in the easter egg I can imagine there's some kind of co-operation there; basically I think it's a fairly baseless assumption to say that Homestar has dressed himself up when we don't actually see the act or any kind of authoritative reference to it, and The Cheat was obviously in on it.

Thoughts? --Goatboy

:You know, that's a good point. The description could be just as effective and concise without having to make that assumption. I'll adjust it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:25, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Spike==
Coach Zed is reminiscent of Snoopy's brother Spike.

Yeah, that's what I thought. [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 21:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== Marzipan: Ignorant? ==

I don't think Marzipan is as smart as was previously shown. She couldn't see through such an obvious disguise in the Easter Egg. It would seem Homestar and her are very alike... --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 19:45, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*I dunno... she couldn't tell that [[Homestar Jr.]] wasn't really talking. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:06, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*I personally think that Marzipan only pictures herself as smarter than Homestar, in a similar fashion to how Strong Bad pictures himself as a cool ladies man. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
** Strong Bad IS a cool ladies man. -Jhonka
*I'm guessing Marzipan knew that it was The Cheat and just took advantage of the opportunity. Her and The Cheat have seemed to have had a thing for each other for a while anyway. -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 01:56, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
** O_o If you say so... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:57, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Don't forget about Tofu Homestar. She seems to like Homestar more when he's not really Homestar. :P -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Marzipan's none too bright, it seems. '_' --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:32, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

== SCRAWNY ADDITIONS ==

Stop making scrawny additions like "running time: 4:23". I had the entire sbemail done and then it said "someone else has changed the page" and all that was changed was that you added "running time: 4:23"! Thanks a lot! --[[User:EMJS|''EMJS'']] [[User talk:EMJS|(Talk)]] 19:50, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

: It's just as well. I finished the draft anyway. And, as a note, your edit is at the bottom of the screen in an Edit Conflict and can be easily copy/pasted back. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:51, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

NOTE: Edit conflict; what a great way to make my point!
:Uh, you know that your text is on the bottom, right? You can easily copy the text from there, as I just did. Also, running time is an important factor, not a scrawny addition. Sorry you got cheated out of a transcript, but it's happened to others too. (Btw, sign your comment) --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 19:51, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== My first addition to the Wiki (or to any Wiki for that matter) ==

I added a link to the forum thread. That is the only change I made. I hope I didn't screw anything up. On my first try, I took too long and got the "Someone else has edited this page" alert, so I cut-to-clipboard the link I added, backed out, and clicked edit again, and as fast as possible, added the link and clicked save.
- Jalexster (sorry, didn't know about not signing my comment. I'll get the hang of everything soon.)
: Cool. We all have to start somewhere. However - and I'm not trying to be rude - but this might be better served on your [[User:Jalexter|user page]]. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 20:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
:: Sorry. Should I delete my comment and move it? - Jalexster
::: I'll let it slide, but you can delete it if you want to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 20:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== Possible Family Guy Reference ==

Last night's new Family Guy episode featured Peter swallowing nickels to get the world record. He also made the jangling noise with his belly. Would this possibly be a reference to Family Guy or is it to vague?
--[[User:24.27.135.88|24.27.135.88]] 21:16, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, there's a vote going on in STUFF about that right now. I certainly think it is, especially given that they've been known to make emails at the last minute and the timing seems too perfect to be a coincidence. From after I voted, 2 people (including myself) say yes and 1 person says no. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 21:18, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

I don't think its a reference, as the episode premiered on Sunday and the email premiered today...I don't think that TBC would have enough time to make such a reference, even if they cared. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]

I noticed this too and was completely weirded out. The Brothers Chaps often pull all-nighters getting their emails out, and this one came later in the day. I'm almost positive it was a reference. And I know this shouldn't be in here, but that was a great Family Guy episode! -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 02:00, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

I was about to list this one. This premiered one day after that episode; whether it consciously influenced them or not, I think it is definitely behind that part of the email. --jbo

According to interviews and such, one of the longest it takes to make a sbemail is 3 or 5 days. They can make a sbemail pretty quickly these days... So it's quite possible. --[[User:StarWarsMonkey|StarWarsMonkey :-)]] 00:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

== 'School'? ==

There were two references in this email about SB and Homestar going to school together (possibly with Strong Mad). Has this ever been mentioned before, or is it just a random joke of some kind?

It has. Strong Sad was talking about how he went to school in Yellow Dello. Sign your posts.-Alice

He ate colored chalk in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]. -H*R guyman.

== little hearts ==

When I first watched this email, there weren't any little hearts above Homestar's head when he said "Strong Bad, I think I'm falling for you." Did anyone else catch that?-Alice
: I saw it very shortly after it came out. Like within less than half an hour. As far as I know, the hearts were always there. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

: Same here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:47, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

oops. my bad. -Alice

== Homestar: Gay? ==

From what he did in this email, Homestar seems like he's gay. Do you think he is?
-Kinsey
: I'm not sure that Strong Bad's imagination counts as canon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:45, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

::EDIT CONFLICT'd!!! With Strong Bad cutting out like that, I don't think that part was real. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 19:46, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

::Homestar "falls" for SB in "real-time", not as part of the do-over. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

::: Does he? Strong Bad immediately ends the whole thing and acts as though it never happened after Homestar falls for him. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 20:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

:::They go into the sequence in what seems like "reality". But they do come out of it as if he was imagining. Regardless, it's just a joke. Strong Bad's allure is so strong, everyone falls for him! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

:Regardless of whether it was imaginary or not, it seems like the joke is that Strong Bad was singing such a terrible song, and then a GUY fell in love with him. And without another reference to Homestar's sexuality, I wouldn't say that this constitutes as a fact. -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

:sigh: Just becasue Homestar has the socio-cognitive developmental equiviency of a 10-year-old does not make him "Gay." (If I used to many big words for you, I just said that Homestar acts like a child).
Does this make him "Retarded?" Quite possibly, but not gay. He's just blissfully unaware of sexuality; much like your litle brother that giggles when you say a mildly naught word. Keep in mind the nature of his relationship with Marzipan. To sum him up, he's not just dim in "I've got a girfriend" department, he's dim to the point of fumbling around a lot and bumping into stuff (not just figuratively, I might add). Is it any wonder that Marzipan is mostly indiferent to his advances?
Be this as it may, I don't believe it's helpfull to put such labels on Homestar. Even if he were a flaming homosexual who advertised his homosexuality and organized daily Gay Pride marches in Strong Bad's living room* I really would't see the point in actively applying the "gay" label to him.

*Why there? Becasue he'd be gay but still Homestar. He's be Gaystar Runner. Or perhaps Homestar Gayer. Take your pick.

This concludes the mostly pointless but also mildly amusing "is he Gay" thread. You may now question your own sexuality if you like.

*Ok, Guys. I'm sorry if I offended anyone. In fact, I'll make you feel happier by saying '''Homestar is NOT GAY!!''' -Kinsey

**I think that the real answer is that '''Homestar is too stupid/innocent to have a sexual orientation at all.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:56, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

***Yeah. The parades sound humourous, though...I can see it...SB: Homestar, what are you doing?
HR: I'm putting on a rainbowcolor two-blue-crayon parade in your living room! SB: You WHAT!?!?!?!?! Allright, no one needs to see this! ''{SB covers camera with his glove}'' I made up the phrase "Two Blue Crayons" because I don't have the guts to say "gay". My friend Thomas teases me about it all the time, saying that I am "that". It all started with a joke, I was feeling really immature and-hey, Homestar could have been just immature, and did weird things. I think so.
-Alex H.

==Casting Coach Zed==
No one seems to be able to agree on this. Should Coach Zed be in the cast list? I vote yes, BTW. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 20:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

No, I don't think so. He was probably just a one-time easter egg gag. --[[User:StarWarsMonkey|StarWarsMonkey :-)]] 00:08, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
: So what? He appeared so he should be in the cast list. I mean, we included Li'l Brudder in the cast list of [[crying]], did we not? And as far as we knew at the time, he was just a one-time gag, correct? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:13, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
:: Li'l Brudder plays a much bigger part in [[crying]] than Coach Zed does in [[do over]]. Also, without the easter egg drawing, Coach Zed isn't really a different person. I say leave him out of the cast list. --[[User:68.82.147.62|68.82.147.62]] 05:37, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

== "Attack of the Show"-ed? ==

This is probably stretching, but Strong Bad whacking Homestar with the keyboard could be considered a reference to the [http://www.g4tv.com/videos/index.html?video_key=9042 Homerowed sketch] found on [http://www.g4tv.com/aots Attack of the Show]. The show used to be [http://www.g4tv.com/screensavers/ The Screen Savers], which featured an interview of TBC: [[Screen Savers Interview - 24 Jan 2005]] --[http://www.madcrasher.com/main/index.php?module=about#e-mail madcrasher]

I just added a note pointing out that the whole "Zed" thing is a bit of a misconception, although technicly it is correct. If you look it up in a grammar/pronounciation guide, it's there. However, in reality it's not so simple. Due to the constant exposure to american media (tv, movies, print, etc.) you are less and less likely to hear a Canadian in Canada actualy pronounce the letter "Z" as "zed" now than you were thrity years ago. Since it seems that it takes about thirty years for the grammar & diction handbooks to get with the times, it's not surprising that you yanks think we canucks all say "Zed" all; the time up here in the great frozen igloo-factury that is Canada. (You just keep thinking we all live in igloos. Gives you less reason to want to invade us.) ;)

In fairness, sometimes I will still pronounce it "zed", especialy when it comes to spelling my nameout loud, (For those of you who weren't paying attention, I just told you that my name has one or more "z" in it.) I know it's still prevelent and has not died outr of useage. I'm just trying to point out that Canadians are not known to say "Zee" from time to time as well as "Zed". Ok?

Now, if you realy wanna get into a pronunciation debate, ask me how to pronounce "Saskatchewan" or "Toque" or "Poutine" (and no, the last one is not the name of the current Russian leader, bet rather an food item unique to Canada.) Or something harder if you really wanna get into it.
I'm all Canadian, all the time.

-Sarge

== Round ol red head? (or something similar) ==

Isn't the begginning of the serenade a reference to the King of town's description of Strong Bad in the Strong Bad in jail cartoon? -Carlo

I don't think so, but it is more evidence toward the theory that the wrestling mask is Strong Bad's head. -Alice

== Unrelated RWR ==
*Strongbad's denying that he has ever made any mistakes is a reference to George W. Bush's similar answer to that question during a press conference.
**''Found this in real world references. IMO, it's rediculously stretched, and hardly related at all, so i'll be removing it from the RWR for now. If there's any objections, take it to STUFF, k?'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 23:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

== Possible goof ==
Marzipan never wears lipstick, sohow did she cover The Cheat in it?-Ashley

Good Point. It shows, as was mentiones above, that Marzipan likes Homestar more when he's not actually Homestar. That kind of thing always happens in cartoons. -Alice

How did Marzi slap Homestar in The Yello Dello toon? And who knows if her "hands" are shaped like that?-Leels

== Coach Zed = Spike? ==

Hey...am I the only person who thinks that the drawing of "Coach Zed" looks like Snoopy's brother Spike from Peanuts? Maybe it's the whiskers... -Jeff

:Nope, [[do over#Fun Facts#Real-World References|you're not]]. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 02:58, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
:: It's not listed there, but it IS listed next to the Coach Zed Easter egg and on the [[Coach Zed]] page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
:::Oops.{{User:FireBird/sig}} 03:07, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

==Closed STUFF==
===Grammatically Incorrect (DECLINED)===

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
**Let's just leave it at '''Declined'''. While "alright" isn't accepted as proper English by everyone, it appears in the dictionary, and using "different" instead of "differently" is exactly the kind of subtle mocking of his fans that Strong Bad does all the time.[[User:Kyushu|Kyushu]]
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
* '''"Hey Maestro, if you get DECLINED, can I pick through your stuff on the way back to sol?"'''2 reasons.1) Look, everybody makes some sort of grammar mistake in their life, and 2)Very irrelevant. That's slang that Strong Bad uses all the time. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:40, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
===Totally not gettin' old? (DECLINED)===
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why is it that using the same word means it's a reference to another toon where that word is used? That does not make sense. If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second,''' except for the part about Chewbacca.
===George W. Stnank (DECLINED)===
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**You spelled "political" wrong. It's po-''lic''-tical.[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:18, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline.''' Need I say more? [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
===Bang On The Drum (DECLINED)===
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.
*THIS was in the remarks it seams useless to me don't change it is in the remarks on the page for DO OVER allred this is just caliging it
*'''Decline''' First, sign your posts. Second, although I do think this is mildly interesting, it is not enough to really merit a fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline The angle and force at which the drum is struck can affect it somewhat as well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' Homestar has no arms invisible or otherwise. Quit saying that he does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:35, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because your geekdar's broken. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''revise''' eliminate the second sentence completely. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Decline''' as it is false. If you hit the centre of a drum it gives a low pitch, but hitting the edge of a drum gives a higher pitch. Plus things like how hard you hit the drum, as mentioned above. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 11:38, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Seriously, have you nothing better to do than speculate as to how percussion works for people whose arms actully aren't there? Get a life.
*'''Second Fizz's Post.''' And I'm sure if it was eliminated in the first place, most of the people who have said "Dacline" would have probably voted "Accept." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:20, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not me. '''Decline''' [[user: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 22:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCORPTED!!!'''Some revision wouldn't hurt but it's pretty good as is.[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' - [http://darthno.ytmnd.com/ Darth Vader summarizes my feelings]; just doesn't seem that noteworthy. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
===Falling for You (DECLINED)===
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

*This is a generic sentence that I've heard plenty of times outside Weezer songs - I've left it on do over in case, though.
*Uh, no. No it's not. Turn off geekdar. It's haywire. '''Dolores!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:27, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' are we seriously voting for this? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE''' It's things like THIS that we need to purge STUFF from. Someone had reentered this "fun fact," and I didn't know it was in STUFF. But it looked so stupid, I just deleted it on the spot. That's what should have been done here. C'mon people, while some facts are good to STUFF, like the "Family Guy" one below, others are better off disappearing. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 12:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is only interesting in that the author attempted to atttribute the reference to a band other than TMBG! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Holy crap, no''' That's a very common phrase. Get this so-called fun fact out of my SIGHT. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:03, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondated!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is absurd.''' This is ''not'' how STUFF was meant to work. This page is for those facts that fall in that gray area of "maybe good, maybe not." It's not for ''this'' kind of nonsense. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Um, I dunno what that MEANS! And you're still DECLINED!''' *cough* yup. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, it's not. (declined)''' 21:58 17 May 2005
*'''Yeah, shut up kid kthx''' Keep crap off kthx. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:11, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Are you some sort of Declined Brew?''' Absurd loose music reference. No. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:33, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*Common pharse '''Declined''' [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''DEE-CLAAAANE!'''What?! Are you kidding? Everybody knows "Falling for you" is just a common phrase. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's a common phrase. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' 'Nuff said. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline!''' What everyone else said. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:58 AM, 21 May 2005
*This one doesn't even deserve my vote. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:59, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
=== Change of Pace (ACCEPTED) ===
Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the Family Guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy) episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

*'''Accept-erson''' I actually saw Family Guy the night before this email was released and I thought about it as a watched this email. And considering the fact that [[TBC]] make updates (in this case, the new email) late Sunday night or early Monday morning (usually), it is a possibility. I mean, TBC seem like the kinda funny dudes who watch those kind of shows, like me. 8-P [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd think this would have been in the works for awhile. But, I did read in one of the interviews that they stick jokes in at the last minute. Still, I think it's a stretch. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I was just about to say that! Given the timing and Homestar's comment about being "jingly" ("tell me that doesn't sound like camp town races!") make me believe it. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!!!''' I'm willing to chalk this one up to coincidence without some more solid evidence (okay, okay, I didn't watch it, but it SOUNDS like it's the sort of thing I'd normally call a coincidence.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:24, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' As soon as I saw this, I immediately thought Family Guy, the timing is way too much of a coincedence, and the Brothers do e-mails on Sundays usually, especially since this one wasnt even up until later today, rather than early in the morning like usual. The brothers seem like the type who would watch Family Guy too. --[[User:Dex|Dex]] 21:28, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I would count this as a very bizzare coincidence...while it may be a reference, I doubt that TBC would have much time to put it in, and if they did if they cared so much...besides, TBC is not especially known to steal jokes from other shows. Reference them maybe, but it was essentially the same joke. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Accept.''' <s>I haven't made up my mind.</s> Although, if all the coins were ''nickels'', then it would be more clear-cut... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' and a minor '''rewrite'''-or at least a couple of fixes while I'm looking at it. I saw the same episode, and it seems like a reference to me. The timing's too good to make it unlikely. As for the rewrite, just stick 'aired' after 'episode' (doesn't sound right to me without it) and replace 'where' with 'in which' And Griffin has two Fs. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 23:25, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**Since these changes don't affect the substance of the fact, we'd might as well go ahead and make them.
*Accept You theif!!! I wanted to say this. Oh well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Why do you people think that TBC would reference the show, considering that the majority of Homestarrunner.com does not contain references to other pop culture shows and their jokes, especially not to the extent of stealing a joke. (after all it seems that the joke was not so much a reference as a direct steal if it was)....
**To the person who didn't sign their name: Uh... let me see here, Cheat Commandos is a huge reference to G.I. Joe, which was part of pop culture and is still a well-known character/franchise, Bug In Mouth Disease alludes to Dallas, pizzaz makes a Seinfeld reference, montage makes a big Rocky reference. As such, I have to disagree when you say HSR makes no references to pop culture. Granted, some of the many are no longer in pop culture, and some are dated, but one cannot say that there are no pop culture references. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 01:55, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
***Sorry about that, I forgot to hit the ~s. Now I was not saying that Homestarrunner.com never makes pop culture references...There are dozens, as TBC are big into pop culture in general. All I am saying is that the examples listed above parody or make fun of or at least ellaborate on pop culture. Not so with the alleged Family Guy reference. That seems to be (a) Not anywhere near as obvious as the others and (b) pretty much the same joke that Family Guy used. I personally would assume that TBC would be original enough to make up their own jokes, not use others, and I think there is a large difference in referencing and stealing the entire joke. Besides, I doubt they had enough time to anyway. I still think it is a coincidence. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
***On the other hand, it was posted one day after the episode aired, which is why I accepted this when I would normally decline --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* In ''The Dilbert Future'' by Scott Adams, Scott has a chapter where he talks about ideas, and how sometimes they can come off as not-original. He wrote a chapter about security cameras in public places and when he turned on his T.V there was a report on the exact same thing. He wrote a comic with a joke about a fake opera singer called "Placebo Domingo" and when he opened his newspaper there was a comic with the same exact joke. I guess what I'm saying is...its a coincidence. Don't be so quick to accept just because of that. This one should never have been STUFF'D, just deleted. '''Decline from school''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Unless I see evidence that convinces me otherwise, I'ma gonna '''Second''' that. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:41, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This one makes sense, and we all know that TBC will do last minute edits to make it even funnier. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 04:09, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**But other than the fact that Homestar eats change, is there anything less...coincidental tying it to Family Guy?
**Yes, the fact that this sbemail was posted the day after that episode aired. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
** Yeah, nice to know you read my reply on COINCIDENCES. Because its likely just a COINCIDENCE do you have any other connections beyond, "it was posted the day after the Family Guy episode". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**No but I'm not changing my vote and there's nothing ou can do about it. :D --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Sorry, everybody who declined this, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with this fun fact. '''Strong Accept.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::Please don't tell people that there is nothing wrong with this. They have their own opinion, and that is okay. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
*I know I already voted, but this sounds too coincidental. The timing and the similar (but apparently not identical) jokes are the only connection anyone has brought forth - and that's not really enough for me. It's possible, I suppose, but usually the "could bes" of the Wiki get near-unanimous declines. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' I say we add something around "It's coincidental that a day before this email came out, Peter Griffin tried to eat coins in an episode of Family Guy." in "Remarks". →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
**That might make a bit more sense as a fun fact, but it still lacks any "funness" or "factitude" in my opinion. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''STRONG ACCEPT''' I watched family guy on sunday, and when I saw the e-mail it made me think in an instant- I think that's a reference to Family Guy. [[User:im_a_evil_wizard|im_a_evil_wizard]] 20:36, 17 May 2005 (ETC)
**I actually thought the exact same thing when I watched this toon on monday. However, despite my early instincts, logically the "reference" would not make sense to me, as listed above -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Considering this email came out the day after the new Family Guy aired and it contained a very similar gag (even though Homestar didn't go blind from nickel poisoning), I'd say there's a good chance that this was an intentional reference. Family Guy seems like the type of show TBC would watch. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:44, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept so strong you'd think there were two of them''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:40, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' Even if it is a coincidence, it's a good fun fact. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** If its a coincidence then there is no reason to list it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Good thing it's not a coincidence --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** How can you be so sure? (oh, and when responded to a bulleted fact, use multiple stars instead of colons. It's easier to respond that way (you MUST use colons to respond to a colon-starred fact or it looks terrible), and the spacing is off if you use colons.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:45, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Usually when there's a pop culture reference, it's supposed to be what makes the joke funny. But this joke is funny on its own. It's actually less funny when I think about it being a reference, because like a bunch of other people said, it wouldn't be parodying, it would be stealing. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Accept.''' It wouldn't be stealing. It would be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage homage]-ing. [[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept''' I was thinking the same thing, but I thought it was a coincedence until I read in an intereveiw that they make the emails on Sunday. Now we just need Homestar to go blind. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
* Okay look, if the e-mail had been posted a week or more after the Family Guy episode, this wouldn't even be an issue, it would've just been shrugged off as a similiar gag and not a reference. TBC are not stupid nor do they blindly rip gags off from other people. The fact that the e-mail aired so close to the FG episode only adds to the evidence that its a coincidence. Family Guy isn't the only cartoon or show to have characters eating change (an episode of the Simpsons had Bart eating change). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Incredibly Strong Accept''' I think this is completely true. Maybe I will second Jay. But I don't think I watched that night, which ep was it of FG? --[[Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:02, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm gonna say ACCEPT''' - Makes sense to me. I like that episode too! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*All right, I'm 90% sure that most of this is because you like Family Guy, not because there's a real connection. The timing is probably nothing more than a coincidence, and from my understanding, the joke is only vaguely similar. EVERY OTHER REFERENCE BAR NONE that goes through STUFF needs a solid connection or it gets near-unanimous declines, but that solid connection is curiously absent here. Why accept this fact? I can't see why! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. I just don't see it. Other than the fact that it involved coinage being eaten, I just don't see any similarity between the two incidents --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*To everyone who wants more evidence: In the Family Guy episode the previous night, there were a couple of jokes about the coins jingling in Peter's stomach, and Homestar makes a very similar jingling noise after eating the coins. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 10:13, 22 May 2005
**Uh, that was already a part of the fact and adds nothing to this discussion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Nor does it add any weight to the evidence that the two jokes are connected. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*I agree with Jay. I think you guys are trying to make a connections where there is none, simply because you want it. I don't think TBC would be cheap enough to steal a joke from Family Guy. I, too, enjoy FG. I enjoy it enough to realize that both Seth Mcfarlane and TBC are original enough to not copy eachother in some sort of "homage".... - [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**It's not a stolen joke or a borrowed one, it's a reference. Sort of like TBC saying "Hi, we like your show" --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** If it IS based on FG, then it's a stolen joke, because they don't give any credit of any sort to the original - including SOLID references (like the type I've been asking for since my vote!). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:29, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Since when was did any of the referrences(anywhere on HR) get mentioned in the credits? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***** You're taking the word too literally. I mean that the references make some mention that can easily be tied to something else that makes the reference (relatively) clear - the name of the character on the Halloween costume is revealed, an exact line of dialogue is replicated, the name of an establishment is thrown into conversation, etc. Where's the tie here? It's a similar joke that could stand on its own without Family Guy having ever used the same joke. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:06, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***** For me it was the coins jingling inside homestar they way they did inside peter. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
****** But that's still just part of the similar joke that could easily stand on its own without FG having ever done the joke. It's not solid. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:21, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
******The point is we do have probable cause to believe this. I suppose it could be revised to say it was posted the day after a very similar joke on family guy aired, and that wether this was a wink at Seth Mcfarline, is unknown. That much is clearly true. --02:52, 23 May 2005 (UTC)~
******* We have just as much reason to accept this as "Get Back Loretta" and you Declined that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:55, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*******I obviously feel the reasoning provided is sufficient and much better than on that one, or I would have declined this one. I didn't however. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*******The only "reasoning" supplied has just given weight to the argument that this is a coincidence. Once again, the fact that the toons aired so close to each other, the fact that TBC DO NOT rip off jokes directly from other people (instead using more subtle references like in the Halloween toons), and that the jokes are not identical only help to show that its a coincidence. Nobody has given reasoning beyond the close air date. THAT is why people are so opposed to this one. And to the person who said the coin jingling noises were similiar: Get a bunch of coins together. Jingle them. Sound familier? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*******Apparently more are not opposed to it, then opposed. All you're argueing is "cus I said so". --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
********And now you're once again resorting to petty insults. Way to give me another reason to see this fun "fact" die. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I vote against. Similar jokes, yes. But not enough to consider one a referance to the other. '''Decline''' --[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 22:41, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is getting sort of petty on both sides, but my firm stance is: if this was referring to anything other than Family Guy, it probably would already be Declined unanimously. This fact is EQUALLY as valid as dozens of other Declined facts. The arguments that have been provided are all circumstantial and probably coincidental: a similar joke that happened to be one day apart. The words "might be" in the fact (which ARE there) cause almost everyone on this Wiki to Decline it without even reading any further. No solid connections - NONE - have been provided. Okay, so they both involve eating coins and having them jingle. That doesn't automatically make it a reference, since no dialogue is reproduced and no names are mantioned. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:41, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
* And I'll say it one more time - it doesn't actually ''refer to'' Family Guy at all. If it IS based on Family Guy then it's nothing more than joke theft, and I'd like to think that The Bros. Chaps are above that sort of plagiarism. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:49, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**Besides, (and this IS getting really petty), the way that Homestar made the sound of coins jangling is not similar enough to be called a reference to how Peter jangled. I mean, how many characters of cartoons have eaten change before anyway? How many have jangled in some sort afterwards as part of a joke? Even if this is a reference (which i highly doubt to be as such), what makes you think it was a Family Guy reference? If Homestar ate nickles, maybe. I like FG as much as the next guy, and I respect both the creators of FG and HSR to be original enough to not steal a joke from someone else. To me, this is starting to feel like that episode of South Park entitled "Simpsons Did it." Have we become Butters people? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:19, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*OK, I think this has been up for quite a while, and even though there is a lot of discussion, there are 15 Accepts and 6 Declines, so this looks like a winner.
** ''{At this point, Jay starts crying. Strong Bad puts away his Li'l Brudder drawing and walks away laughing.}'' How can the SAME PEOPLE declining "No la dee la dee la" accept this? It boggles my mind. There is no substance to this fact. It is "Family Guy did this, and Homestar did it too, and although there's no solid connection, it MUST be a reference" being accepted while "TBC are referencing THEMSELVES in something that contextually makes NO SENSE if it's not a reference and they reference themselves ALL THE FRIKKING TIME" being declined??? HAS THE WIKI GONE MAD?!?!?!?! ''{pant pant}'' Seriously needed to get that out of my system. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:37, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**This is a very sad day for democracy. I can't believe that so many people believe that a connection exists just because two humor places did a similar joke at a similar time. Maybe this explains why so many believe in Nostradamus, fortune telling, <s>and god.</s> -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:04, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*** I'm neither agreeing nor disagreeing with you (out loud) but watch what you type - some people can be VERY aggressive about defending their religion when comments like that are made (I'm not one of them, but I've met enough people who are.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:39, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Sorry about that. It was meant to be a joke. I mean no offense to anybody, religious or not. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:42, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

===A Type of Bad Grammar (DECLINED)===
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a
"DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005
*'''Big-Time Decline'''. Needs to be ''baleeted!'' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:27 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''weak accept''' Because, when we think of deleted, we usually think of Strong Bad saying aloud "deleted," and DELETED appearing on the screen. Except here, he said "do over" and the screen displayed "DO OVER!" Every time the screen on any computer has said deleted, Strong Bad has said it. But, it doesn't always do what he tells it to. (I'm thinkin sisters and virus.)[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:25, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*'''Decline''' Please people. It was a phrase that appeared on the screen. It's not any sort of Deleted! cousin. --'''[[user:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]][[User talk:mibluvr13|dígame]]''' 23:22, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===Stnank or Not? (DECLINED)===

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Yeah. It does.
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What with the angry mothers, and the declining in the town square for all to see...''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:52, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===Tandy 400 Goofs (Accepted)===
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Accept''' - This has all the funness of the fact without the factness of the fun. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptyness''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:52, 9 Jun 2005
*'''Yay, yummy acceptness!''' Why should this be STUFF'd? [[User:68.161.140.124|68.161.140.124]] 01:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:14, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==IMMEDIATE contesting of an Accepted fact==

I'm not letting this die until the fact does. I'm invoking the little-used but perfectly valid power to CONTEST a bad fact that got accepted anyway. I refer, of course, to the Family Guy non-reference, AKA "Change of Pace" (see above). There is no reason to believe that it's a reference that can't be chalked up to pure coincidence, and if the "fact" is true, then it doesn't mean that there was any "homage" - it means that TBC are plagiarists, and I'd prefer to think of them as being better than that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Although this sort of reminds me of Star Wars (so this is how democracy dies), I am with ya. But how would this work anyhow? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Good question. I'm not sure a Fun Fact has ever been seriously contested before. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:41, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Right on brudda! This is a stinky one! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:I propose creating a rebel group devoted to fighting this evil menace. Or you know just bitching about it for a while until they see it our way. Whichever works. -- [[User:69.39.99.20|69.39.99.20]] 21:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:: Whoever you are, as I've stated about a dozen times, this fact is equally as "valid" as many other facts that were tossed straight out the window with unanimous declines. If this had been about almost anything besides Family Guy, it probably would have been thrown out the window with them. I am only trying to keep this Wiki loaded with GOOD facts. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:59, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::Jay, I hate to be the pessimist in some respects, but I honestly don't think you will win this fight, no matter how nobel the cause. A lot of people like Family Guy so much that it blinds their ability to judge objectivly the validity of this so called fact. Of course, I'm right with you in fighting it, but all I'm saying is that it might not work out so well. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:09, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I say this with sincerity and in friendship: What, exactly, are you contesting? Do you want a recount? Okay, I see 16 accepts and 8 declines. Wasn't the process followed correctly? Everyone has had two full weeks to weigh in, and everybody got one vote. If you're just upset that the vote didn't go your way, then my friend, I am afraid I cannot help you. I must point out, however, that you're starting to sound like ''A Few Good Men'' ("Your honor, I object!" "Overruled!" "No, I ''strenuously'' object." "Oh, well, I guess I'd better reconsider.").<div style="text-indent: 2em">The vast majority of fun facts that are based on speculation get declined. Note that they don't get declined because they are necessarily incorrect; they simply do not have enough evidence to support them. (See [[Talk:dangeresque_3#Constantinople.3F_.28Declined.29|Constantinople]] for another example.) But just because you vote "decline" on something does not make it false. Short of TBC making some kind of announcement about this, there's ''no way'' you can be 100% sure that the accepts are wrong and the declines are right. As for me, I was ready to decline the fact, but I decided to watch the toon once more and see what I thought. After viewing it again, and ''considering the timing'', I decided that there was ''just enough'' there for it to be too coincidental to be a coincidence. (And, incidentally, my vote wasn't based on whether ''I'' like ''Family Guy'', but whether I thought TBC do.) I notice that you admit not having seen the episode in question. How, then, can you be so sure? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:45, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)</div>
::Dot com, I have seen the episode, and have been and still am a huge fan of Family Guy. The fact is that this being a reference means that TBC is ''stealing'' a joke. I just didnt consider TBC to be theives and to be original enough.
::Now, I agree. These arguments have been stated and restated millions of times. Saying them over and over again accomplishes nothing. All I am saying is that I think that this form of democracy is flawed. The majority of votes made were done so, IMHO, because the voter enjoys Family Guy. I agree that there is nothing that can be done. Democracy has spoken. I am just disapointed in the STUFF rules so that such a rediculous (again, in my opinion) "fact" can be accepted by such a large margin. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:03, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::I am not a strong supporter of this fact (see my vote way above), I just ''lean'' toward accepting it. And I see your point, but I don't think TBC would consider it stealing. Or if they did, they might not care. Here's how I see it playing out: "Hey, Matt, Peter's eating nickels... that's funny!" "Yeah, Mike, we should have Homestar do something like that. I'll put it in the scene that I'm working on ''right now''." (Emphasis mine.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I'm with Jay on this. I'ma email the Chappos; hopefully they'll answer. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 23:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::I think that's an excellent idea, FireBird. If I had my wish, I'd interview them about once a year and ask about all our little facts that we get so worked up over but they have probably forgotten all about. They'd probably laugh me right out of their office, or basement, or wherever. But then at least ''we'd'' sleep better at night. Actually, if I had my wish then Strong Bad would answer one of my emails. Or, better yet, someone would give me a million dollars bill. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::: You could try asking your computer to print one. Just make sure you say "[[couch patch|please]]". Okay, seriously. The arguments I have given before are the arguments I give now - if it's true, it makes plagiarists of TBC, and there's not enough evidence that we know it's true in the first place. I don't know if they'd ever even bother answering your question, but if they did, it would certainly clear up a lot — just don't count on it happening. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::Plagiarize!
::::Let no one else's work evade your eyes!
::::Remember why the good Lord made your eyes,
::::So don't shade your eyes,
::::But plagiarize, plagiarize, plagiarize-
::::Only be sure always to call it please "research". [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]

Did they even have enough time from the airing of the FG episode to put it in? I mean, they would've had to do it last minute if it was a reference. Besides, Family Guy is NOT the first to think of change jingle-jangling. -[[Special:Contributions/66.41.62.253|66.41.62.253]] 22:18, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:Please note that this discussion is almost four years old. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:20, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

== Hey ==

Any ideas why Homestar and The Cheat switched? Tell me.

:No clue. This idea would be better posed on the [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ Forum]. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:02, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== homestar saying "booooo" instead of "mooooo"?==
i always thought that he said booooo. i think he would say that because he is kind of booing strong bad for his "wrong" statement. I also thought that Strong Bad just interpreted it wrong. i could be wrong, i'm just making a statement.
- DDR_freak1
ugh i forgot my user name. at least that's what i THINK it was.
:I hear "moo". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:21, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

* ok, i just thought that it would make more sense if he said moo, but then again, homestar isn't really supposed to make sense in the first place, huh? :P

==Ben Franklin?==
I dunno about you, but when I listen to the first part of the this email, it reminds me strongly of Ben Franklin's Autobiography, in which he claims to have never made a mistake, but nonetheless has a few "errata" in his life. Thoughts? - Rowen

:That's an interesting theory, but I'm afraid it's too big a stretch to include in the article. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:06, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

== Moldy Bread ==

Moldy bread has been mentioned three times: [[Fortune Cookies]], [[do over]], and [[Thy Dungeonman II]]. This seems to be more than a coincidence — it's not a very common phrase. What/where's the best way/place to note this? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:02, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:How about [[Bread]]? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 20:25, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
::Good thinking — thanks for the reply. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:43, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:::You're welcome. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 20:46, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== Phantom keyboard ==

I found a goof...or something.

When SB is redoing the Ali and Ali's sister email, he manages to hit the keyboard without actually typing anything for one split second before he types "No. No dying.". Anybody else notice this? -[[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 12:05, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

== Two-dimensional ==

:''While he is disguised as The Cheat, Homestar's shirt is solid yellow (with spots) while his legs and head are colored in scribbly yellow with visible white streaks, which implies that he is wearing a costume shirt but has colored his skin with a marker or paintbrush. However, he has a fringe of white not colored in all around his visible outline, which makes sense only if Homestar is genuinely two-dimensional, or if he has only colored the left side of his body (and about two-thirds of each foot).''
This seems too nitpicky for the article (after all, these characters ''are'' two-dimensional), but interesting nonetheless. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:37, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

== Matt's Motto ==

I really don't think Matt's "motto", "wah wah wah" is repeated by Homestar in [[Cool Things|Cool Things]]. He's just imitating a trombone. Seriouswy. [[User:Dementedc|Dementedc]] 19:22, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

== Crisps, A-Soy! ==

Crisps, A-Soy! seems like a reference/parody of [[Wikipedia:Chips Ahoy!|Chips Ahoy!]]--[[Special:Contributions/66.245.248.55|66.245.248.55]] 04:47, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
:Yep, as noted in [[do over#Real-World References|Real-World References]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:53, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

== Disputed fun fact ==

"In [[sisters]] Strong Bad's misfortune was due to a computer error, not any 'stnank' he may have made."

Strong Bad ''did'' say "deleted," which I think caused the computer to delete the email, meaning that it ''was'' a stnank. Am I correct on this? {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 22:17, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:Looking at the transcript, it seems he says "deleted" as the screen flashes the word, reading if off the computer. He says "deleted" because the email was deleted; not the other way around. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::I might have to be a real stickler on this and say that technically, Strong Bad starts saying "A-Deleted" at frame 280, and the screen starts its message on frame 283, but I don't think that matters at all, as it wouldn't make much sense for Strong Bad to just randomly say that... {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 04:49, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree with DorianGray's interpretation. I think that Strong Bad's saying "Deleted" (almost) simultaneously as it flashes on the screen is for comedic effect, and the fact that he starts to say it a split second before it appears is just the timing of the joke. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:42, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

==Unusual==

Isn't it unusual that TBC redid emails? [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 17:11, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

== Pikachu reference? ==

Is it just me, or does Homestar's second line sound like "Squeakachu" (or "Squeakaku" due to Homestar's accent) --[[Special:Contributions/203.160.119.126|203.160.119.126]] 23:55, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

It ''does'' sound like that, but I don't think it was on purpose.--[[User:Metaphoricallycrazy|M.Crazy]] | [[User talk:Metaphoricallycrazy|Talk]] 01:00, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Talk:do over

2009-07-04T00:59:11Z

Metaphoricallycrazy:

==Homestar's costume==

This article states that: "{Homestar Runner shuffles up on his knees. He's scribbled yellow marker on himself, attached some black thing to his head, and put black dots all on one side to look like The Cheat.}" Given that The Cheat is dressed as Homestar in the easter egg I can imagine there's some kind of co-operation there; basically I think it's a fairly baseless assumption to say that Homestar has dressed himself up when we don't actually see the act or any kind of authoritative reference to it, and The Cheat was obviously in on it.

Thoughts? --Goatboy

:You know, that's a good point. The description could be just as effective and concise without having to make that assumption. I'll adjust it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:25, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Spike==
Coach Zed is reminiscent of Snoopy's brother Spike.

Yeah, that's what I thought. [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 21:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== Marzipan: Ignorant? ==

I don't think Marzipan is as smart as was previously shown. She couldn't see through such an obvious disguise in the Easter Egg. It would seem Homestar and her are very alike... --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 19:45, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*I dunno... she couldn't tell that [[Homestar Jr.]] wasn't really talking. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:06, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*I personally think that Marzipan only pictures herself as smarter than Homestar, in a similar fashion to how Strong Bad pictures himself as a cool ladies man. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
** Strong Bad IS a cool ladies man. -Jhonka
*I'm guessing Marzipan knew that it was The Cheat and just took advantage of the opportunity. Her and The Cheat have seemed to have had a thing for each other for a while anyway. -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 01:56, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
** O_o If you say so... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:57, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Don't forget about Tofu Homestar. She seems to like Homestar more when he's not really Homestar. :P -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Marzipan's none too bright, it seems. '_' --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:32, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

== SCRAWNY ADDITIONS ==

Stop making scrawny additions like "running time: 4:23". I had the entire sbemail done and then it said "someone else has changed the page" and all that was changed was that you added "running time: 4:23"! Thanks a lot! --[[User:EMJS|''EMJS'']] [[User talk:EMJS|(Talk)]] 19:50, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

: It's just as well. I finished the draft anyway. And, as a note, your edit is at the bottom of the screen in an Edit Conflict and can be easily copy/pasted back. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:51, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

NOTE: Edit conflict; what a great way to make my point!
:Uh, you know that your text is on the bottom, right? You can easily copy the text from there, as I just did. Also, running time is an important factor, not a scrawny addition. Sorry you got cheated out of a transcript, but it's happened to others too. (Btw, sign your comment) --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 19:51, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== My first addition to the Wiki (or to any Wiki for that matter) ==

I added a link to the forum thread. That is the only change I made. I hope I didn't screw anything up. On my first try, I took too long and got the "Someone else has edited this page" alert, so I cut-to-clipboard the link I added, backed out, and clicked edit again, and as fast as possible, added the link and clicked save.
- Jalexster (sorry, didn't know about not signing my comment. I'll get the hang of everything soon.)
: Cool. We all have to start somewhere. However - and I'm not trying to be rude - but this might be better served on your [[User:Jalexter|user page]]. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 20:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
:: Sorry. Should I delete my comment and move it? - Jalexster
::: I'll let it slide, but you can delete it if you want to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 20:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== Possible Family Guy Reference ==

Last night's new Family Guy episode featured Peter swallowing nickels to get the world record. He also made the jangling noise with his belly. Would this possibly be a reference to Family Guy or is it to vague?
--[[User:24.27.135.88|24.27.135.88]] 21:16, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, there's a vote going on in STUFF about that right now. I certainly think it is, especially given that they've been known to make emails at the last minute and the timing seems too perfect to be a coincidence. From after I voted, 2 people (including myself) say yes and 1 person says no. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 21:18, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

I don't think its a reference, as the episode premiered on Sunday and the email premiered today...I don't think that TBC would have enough time to make such a reference, even if they cared. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]

I noticed this too and was completely weirded out. The Brothers Chaps often pull all-nighters getting their emails out, and this one came later in the day. I'm almost positive it was a reference. And I know this shouldn't be in here, but that was a great Family Guy episode! -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 02:00, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

I was about to list this one. This premiered one day after that episode; whether it consciously influenced them or not, I think it is definitely behind that part of the email. --jbo

According to interviews and such, one of the longest it takes to make a sbemail is 3 or 5 days. They can make a sbemail pretty quickly these days... So it's quite possible. --[[User:StarWarsMonkey|StarWarsMonkey :-)]] 00:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

== 'School'? ==

There were two references in this email about SB and Homestar going to school together (possibly with Strong Mad). Has this ever been mentioned before, or is it just a random joke of some kind?

It has. Strong Sad was talking about how he went to school in Yellow Dello. Sign your posts.-Alice

He ate colored chalk in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]. -H*R guyman.

== little hearts ==

When I first watched this email, there weren't any little hearts above Homestar's head when he said "Strong Bad, I think I'm falling for you." Did anyone else catch that?-Alice
: I saw it very shortly after it came out. Like within less than half an hour. As far as I know, the hearts were always there. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

: Same here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:47, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

oops. my bad. -Alice

== Homestar: Gay? ==

From what he did in this email, Homestar seems like he's gay. Do you think he is?
-Kinsey
: I'm not sure that Strong Bad's imagination counts as canon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:45, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

::EDIT CONFLICT'd!!! With Strong Bad cutting out like that, I don't think that part was real. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 19:46, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

::Homestar "falls" for SB in "real-time", not as part of the do-over. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

::: Does he? Strong Bad immediately ends the whole thing and acts as though it never happened after Homestar falls for him. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 20:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

:::They go into the sequence in what seems like "reality". But they do come out of it as if he was imagining. Regardless, it's just a joke. Strong Bad's allure is so strong, everyone falls for him! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

:Regardless of whether it was imaginary or not, it seems like the joke is that Strong Bad was singing such a terrible song, and then a GUY fell in love with him. And without another reference to Homestar's sexuality, I wouldn't say that this constitutes as a fact. -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

:sigh: Just becasue Homestar has the socio-cognitive developmental equiviency of a 10-year-old does not make him "Gay." (If I used to many big words for you, I just said that Homestar acts like a child).
Does this make him "Retarded?" Quite possibly, but not gay. He's just blissfully unaware of sexuality; much like your litle brother that giggles when you say a mildly naught word. Keep in mind the nature of his relationship with Marzipan. To sum him up, he's not just dim in "I've got a girfriend" department, he's dim to the point of fumbling around a lot and bumping into stuff (not just figuratively, I might add). Is it any wonder that Marzipan is mostly indiferent to his advances?
Be this as it may, I don't believe it's helpfull to put such labels on Homestar. Even if he were a flaming homosexual who advertised his homosexuality and organized daily Gay Pride marches in Strong Bad's living room* I really would't see the point in actively applying the "gay" label to him.

*Why there? Becasue he'd be gay but still Homestar. He's be Gaystar Runner. Or perhaps Homestar Gayer. Take your pick.

This concludes the mostly pointless but also mildly amusing "is he Gay" thread. You may now question your own sexuality if you like.

*Ok, Guys. I'm sorry if I offended anyone. In fact, I'll make you feel happier by saying '''Homestar is NOT GAY!!''' -Kinsey

**I think that the real answer is that '''Homestar is too stupid/innocent to have a sexual orientation at all.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:56, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

***Yeah. The parades sound humourous, though...I can see it...SB: Homestar, what are you doing?
HR: I'm putting on a rainbowcolor two-blue-crayon parade in your living room! SB: You WHAT!?!?!?!?! Allright, no one needs to see this! ''{SB covers camera with his glove}'' I made up the phrase "Two Blue Crayons" because I don't have the guts to say "gay". My friend Thomas teases me about it all the time, saying that I am "that". It all started with a joke, I was feeling really immature and-hey, Homestar could have been just immature, and did weird things. I think so.
-Alex H.

==Casting Coach Zed==
No one seems to be able to agree on this. Should Coach Zed be in the cast list? I vote yes, BTW. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 20:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

No, I don't think so. He was probably just a one-time easter egg gag. --[[User:StarWarsMonkey|StarWarsMonkey :-)]] 00:08, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
: So what? He appeared so he should be in the cast list. I mean, we included Li'l Brudder in the cast list of [[crying]], did we not? And as far as we knew at the time, he was just a one-time gag, correct? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:13, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
:: Li'l Brudder plays a much bigger part in [[crying]] than Coach Zed does in [[do over]]. Also, without the easter egg drawing, Coach Zed isn't really a different person. I say leave him out of the cast list. --[[User:68.82.147.62|68.82.147.62]] 05:37, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

== "Attack of the Show"-ed? ==

This is probably stretching, but Strong Bad whacking Homestar with the keyboard could be considered a reference to the [http://www.g4tv.com/videos/index.html?video_key=9042 Homerowed sketch] found on [http://www.g4tv.com/aots Attack of the Show]. The show used to be [http://www.g4tv.com/screensavers/ The Screen Savers], which featured an interview of TBC: [[Screen Savers Interview - 24 Jan 2005]] --[http://www.madcrasher.com/main/index.php?module=about#e-mail madcrasher]

I just added a note pointing out that the whole "Zed" thing is a bit of a misconception, although technicly it is correct. If you look it up in a grammar/pronounciation guide, it's there. However, in reality it's not so simple. Due to the constant exposure to american media (tv, movies, print, etc.) you are less and less likely to hear a Canadian in Canada actualy pronounce the letter "Z" as "zed" now than you were thrity years ago. Since it seems that it takes about thirty years for the grammar & diction handbooks to get with the times, it's not surprising that you yanks think we canucks all say "Zed" all; the time up here in the great frozen igloo-factury that is Canada. (You just keep thinking we all live in igloos. Gives you less reason to want to invade us.) ;)

In fairness, sometimes I will still pronounce it "zed", especialy when it comes to spelling my nameout loud, (For those of you who weren't paying attention, I just told you that my name has one or more "z" in it.) I know it's still prevelent and has not died outr of useage. I'm just trying to point out that Canadians are not known to say "Zee" from time to time as well as "Zed". Ok?

Now, if you realy wanna get into a pronunciation debate, ask me how to pronounce "Saskatchewan" or "Toque" or "Poutine" (and no, the last one is not the name of the current Russian leader, bet rather an food item unique to Canada.) Or something harder if you really wanna get into it.
I'm all Canadian, all the time.

-Sarge

== Round ol red head? (or something similar) ==

Isn't the begginning of the serenade a reference to the King of town's description of Strong Bad in the Strong Bad in jail cartoon? -Carlo

I don't think so, but it is more evidence toward the theory that the wrestling mask is Strong Bad's head. -Alice

== Unrelated RWR ==
*Strongbad's denying that he has ever made any mistakes is a reference to George W. Bush's similar answer to that question during a press conference.
**''Found this in real world references. IMO, it's rediculously stretched, and hardly related at all, so i'll be removing it from the RWR for now. If there's any objections, take it to STUFF, k?'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 23:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

== Possible goof ==
Marzipan never wears lipstick, sohow did she cover The Cheat in it?-Ashley

Good Point. It shows, as was mentiones above, that Marzipan likes Homestar more when he's not actually Homestar. That kind of thing always happens in cartoons. -Alice

How did Marzi slap Homestar in The Yello Dello toon? And who knows if her "hands" are shaped like that?-Leels

== Coach Zed = Spike? ==

Hey...am I the only person who thinks that the drawing of "Coach Zed" looks like Snoopy's brother Spike from Peanuts? Maybe it's the whiskers... -Jeff

:Nope, [[do over#Fun Facts#Real-World References|you're not]]. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 02:58, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
:: It's not listed there, but it IS listed next to the Coach Zed Easter egg and on the [[Coach Zed]] page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
:::Oops.{{User:FireBird/sig}} 03:07, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

==Closed STUFF==
===Grammatically Incorrect (DECLINED)===

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
**Let's just leave it at '''Declined'''. While "alright" isn't accepted as proper English by everyone, it appears in the dictionary, and using "different" instead of "differently" is exactly the kind of subtle mocking of his fans that Strong Bad does all the time.[[User:Kyushu|Kyushu]]
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
* '''"Hey Maestro, if you get DECLINED, can I pick through your stuff on the way back to sol?"'''2 reasons.1) Look, everybody makes some sort of grammar mistake in their life, and 2)Very irrelevant. That's slang that Strong Bad uses all the time. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:40, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
===Totally not gettin' old? (DECLINED)===
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why is it that using the same word means it's a reference to another toon where that word is used? That does not make sense. If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second,''' except for the part about Chewbacca.
===George W. Stnank (DECLINED)===
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**You spelled "political" wrong. It's po-''lic''-tical.[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:18, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline.''' Need I say more? [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
===Bang On The Drum (DECLINED)===
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.
*THIS was in the remarks it seams useless to me don't change it is in the remarks on the page for DO OVER allred this is just caliging it
*'''Decline''' First, sign your posts. Second, although I do think this is mildly interesting, it is not enough to really merit a fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline The angle and force at which the drum is struck can affect it somewhat as well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' Homestar has no arms invisible or otherwise. Quit saying that he does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:35, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because your geekdar's broken. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''revise''' eliminate the second sentence completely. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Decline''' as it is false. If you hit the centre of a drum it gives a low pitch, but hitting the edge of a drum gives a higher pitch. Plus things like how hard you hit the drum, as mentioned above. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 11:38, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Seriously, have you nothing better to do than speculate as to how percussion works for people whose arms actully aren't there? Get a life.
*'''Second Fizz's Post.''' And I'm sure if it was eliminated in the first place, most of the people who have said "Dacline" would have probably voted "Accept." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:20, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not me. '''Decline''' [[user: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 22:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCORPTED!!!'''Some revision wouldn't hurt but it's pretty good as is.[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' - [http://darthno.ytmnd.com/ Darth Vader summarizes my feelings]; just doesn't seem that noteworthy. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
===Falling for You (DECLINED)===
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

*This is a generic sentence that I've heard plenty of times outside Weezer songs - I've left it on do over in case, though.
*Uh, no. No it's not. Turn off geekdar. It's haywire. '''Dolores!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:27, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' are we seriously voting for this? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE''' It's things like THIS that we need to purge STUFF from. Someone had reentered this "fun fact," and I didn't know it was in STUFF. But it looked so stupid, I just deleted it on the spot. That's what should have been done here. C'mon people, while some facts are good to STUFF, like the "Family Guy" one below, others are better off disappearing. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 12:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is only interesting in that the author attempted to atttribute the reference to a band other than TMBG! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Holy crap, no''' That's a very common phrase. Get this so-called fun fact out of my SIGHT. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:03, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondated!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is absurd.''' This is ''not'' how STUFF was meant to work. This page is for those facts that fall in that gray area of "maybe good, maybe not." It's not for ''this'' kind of nonsense. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Um, I dunno what that MEANS! And you're still DECLINED!''' *cough* yup. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, it's not. (declined)''' 21:58 17 May 2005
*'''Yeah, shut up kid kthx''' Keep crap off kthx. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:11, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Are you some sort of Declined Brew?''' Absurd loose music reference. No. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:33, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*Common pharse '''Declined''' [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''DEE-CLAAAANE!'''What?! Are you kidding? Everybody knows "Falling for you" is just a common phrase. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's a common phrase. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' 'Nuff said. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline!''' What everyone else said. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:58 AM, 21 May 2005
*This one doesn't even deserve my vote. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:59, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
=== Change of Pace (ACCEPTED) ===
Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the Family Guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy) episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

*'''Accept-erson''' I actually saw Family Guy the night before this email was released and I thought about it as a watched this email. And considering the fact that [[TBC]] make updates (in this case, the new email) late Sunday night or early Monday morning (usually), it is a possibility. I mean, TBC seem like the kinda funny dudes who watch those kind of shows, like me. 8-P [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd think this would have been in the works for awhile. But, I did read in one of the interviews that they stick jokes in at the last minute. Still, I think it's a stretch. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I was just about to say that! Given the timing and Homestar's comment about being "jingly" ("tell me that doesn't sound like camp town races!") make me believe it. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!!!''' I'm willing to chalk this one up to coincidence without some more solid evidence (okay, okay, I didn't watch it, but it SOUNDS like it's the sort of thing I'd normally call a coincidence.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:24, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' As soon as I saw this, I immediately thought Family Guy, the timing is way too much of a coincedence, and the Brothers do e-mails on Sundays usually, especially since this one wasnt even up until later today, rather than early in the morning like usual. The brothers seem like the type who would watch Family Guy too. --[[User:Dex|Dex]] 21:28, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I would count this as a very bizzare coincidence...while it may be a reference, I doubt that TBC would have much time to put it in, and if they did if they cared so much...besides, TBC is not especially known to steal jokes from other shows. Reference them maybe, but it was essentially the same joke. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Accept.''' <s>I haven't made up my mind.</s> Although, if all the coins were ''nickels'', then it would be more clear-cut... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' and a minor '''rewrite'''-or at least a couple of fixes while I'm looking at it. I saw the same episode, and it seems like a reference to me. The timing's too good to make it unlikely. As for the rewrite, just stick 'aired' after 'episode' (doesn't sound right to me without it) and replace 'where' with 'in which' And Griffin has two Fs. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 23:25, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**Since these changes don't affect the substance of the fact, we'd might as well go ahead and make them.
*Accept You theif!!! I wanted to say this. Oh well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Why do you people think that TBC would reference the show, considering that the majority of Homestarrunner.com does not contain references to other pop culture shows and their jokes, especially not to the extent of stealing a joke. (after all it seems that the joke was not so much a reference as a direct steal if it was)....
**To the person who didn't sign their name: Uh... let me see here, Cheat Commandos is a huge reference to G.I. Joe, which was part of pop culture and is still a well-known character/franchise, Bug In Mouth Disease alludes to Dallas, pizzaz makes a Seinfeld reference, montage makes a big Rocky reference. As such, I have to disagree when you say HSR makes no references to pop culture. Granted, some of the many are no longer in pop culture, and some are dated, but one cannot say that there are no pop culture references. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 01:55, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
***Sorry about that, I forgot to hit the ~s. Now I was not saying that Homestarrunner.com never makes pop culture references...There are dozens, as TBC are big into pop culture in general. All I am saying is that the examples listed above parody or make fun of or at least ellaborate on pop culture. Not so with the alleged Family Guy reference. That seems to be (a) Not anywhere near as obvious as the others and (b) pretty much the same joke that Family Guy used. I personally would assume that TBC would be original enough to make up their own jokes, not use others, and I think there is a large difference in referencing and stealing the entire joke. Besides, I doubt they had enough time to anyway. I still think it is a coincidence. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
***On the other hand, it was posted one day after the episode aired, which is why I accepted this when I would normally decline --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* In ''The Dilbert Future'' by Scott Adams, Scott has a chapter where he talks about ideas, and how sometimes they can come off as not-original. He wrote a chapter about security cameras in public places and when he turned on his T.V there was a report on the exact same thing. He wrote a comic with a joke about a fake opera singer called "Placebo Domingo" and when he opened his newspaper there was a comic with the same exact joke. I guess what I'm saying is...its a coincidence. Don't be so quick to accept just because of that. This one should never have been STUFF'D, just deleted. '''Decline from school''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Unless I see evidence that convinces me otherwise, I'ma gonna '''Second''' that. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:41, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This one makes sense, and we all know that TBC will do last minute edits to make it even funnier. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 04:09, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**But other than the fact that Homestar eats change, is there anything less...coincidental tying it to Family Guy?
**Yes, the fact that this sbemail was posted the day after that episode aired. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
** Yeah, nice to know you read my reply on COINCIDENCES. Because its likely just a COINCIDENCE do you have any other connections beyond, "it was posted the day after the Family Guy episode". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**No but I'm not changing my vote and there's nothing ou can do about it. :D --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Sorry, everybody who declined this, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with this fun fact. '''Strong Accept.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::Please don't tell people that there is nothing wrong with this. They have their own opinion, and that is okay. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
*I know I already voted, but this sounds too coincidental. The timing and the similar (but apparently not identical) jokes are the only connection anyone has brought forth - and that's not really enough for me. It's possible, I suppose, but usually the "could bes" of the Wiki get near-unanimous declines. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' I say we add something around "It's coincidental that a day before this email came out, Peter Griffin tried to eat coins in an episode of Family Guy." in "Remarks". →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
**That might make a bit more sense as a fun fact, but it still lacks any "funness" or "factitude" in my opinion. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''STRONG ACCEPT''' I watched family guy on sunday, and when I saw the e-mail it made me think in an instant- I think that's a reference to Family Guy. [[User:im_a_evil_wizard|im_a_evil_wizard]] 20:36, 17 May 2005 (ETC)
**I actually thought the exact same thing when I watched this toon on monday. However, despite my early instincts, logically the "reference" would not make sense to me, as listed above -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Considering this email came out the day after the new Family Guy aired and it contained a very similar gag (even though Homestar didn't go blind from nickel poisoning), I'd say there's a good chance that this was an intentional reference. Family Guy seems like the type of show TBC would watch. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:44, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept so strong you'd think there were two of them''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:40, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' Even if it is a coincidence, it's a good fun fact. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** If its a coincidence then there is no reason to list it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Good thing it's not a coincidence --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** How can you be so sure? (oh, and when responded to a bulleted fact, use multiple stars instead of colons. It's easier to respond that way (you MUST use colons to respond to a colon-starred fact or it looks terrible), and the spacing is off if you use colons.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:45, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Usually when there's a pop culture reference, it's supposed to be what makes the joke funny. But this joke is funny on its own. It's actually less funny when I think about it being a reference, because like a bunch of other people said, it wouldn't be parodying, it would be stealing. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Accept.''' It wouldn't be stealing. It would be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage homage]-ing. [[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept''' I was thinking the same thing, but I thought it was a coincedence until I read in an intereveiw that they make the emails on Sunday. Now we just need Homestar to go blind. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
* Okay look, if the e-mail had been posted a week or more after the Family Guy episode, this wouldn't even be an issue, it would've just been shrugged off as a similiar gag and not a reference. TBC are not stupid nor do they blindly rip gags off from other people. The fact that the e-mail aired so close to the FG episode only adds to the evidence that its a coincidence. Family Guy isn't the only cartoon or show to have characters eating change (an episode of the Simpsons had Bart eating change). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Incredibly Strong Accept''' I think this is completely true. Maybe I will second Jay. But I don't think I watched that night, which ep was it of FG? --[[Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:02, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm gonna say ACCEPT''' - Makes sense to me. I like that episode too! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*All right, I'm 90% sure that most of this is because you like Family Guy, not because there's a real connection. The timing is probably nothing more than a coincidence, and from my understanding, the joke is only vaguely similar. EVERY OTHER REFERENCE BAR NONE that goes through STUFF needs a solid connection or it gets near-unanimous declines, but that solid connection is curiously absent here. Why accept this fact? I can't see why! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. I just don't see it. Other than the fact that it involved coinage being eaten, I just don't see any similarity between the two incidents --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*To everyone who wants more evidence: In the Family Guy episode the previous night, there were a couple of jokes about the coins jingling in Peter's stomach, and Homestar makes a very similar jingling noise after eating the coins. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 10:13, 22 May 2005
**Uh, that was already a part of the fact and adds nothing to this discussion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Nor does it add any weight to the evidence that the two jokes are connected. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*I agree with Jay. I think you guys are trying to make a connections where there is none, simply because you want it. I don't think TBC would be cheap enough to steal a joke from Family Guy. I, too, enjoy FG. I enjoy it enough to realize that both Seth Mcfarlane and TBC are original enough to not copy eachother in some sort of "homage".... - [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**It's not a stolen joke or a borrowed one, it's a reference. Sort of like TBC saying "Hi, we like your show" --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** If it IS based on FG, then it's a stolen joke, because they don't give any credit of any sort to the original - including SOLID references (like the type I've been asking for since my vote!). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:29, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Since when was did any of the referrences(anywhere on HR) get mentioned in the credits? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***** You're taking the word too literally. I mean that the references make some mention that can easily be tied to something else that makes the reference (relatively) clear - the name of the character on the Halloween costume is revealed, an exact line of dialogue is replicated, the name of an establishment is thrown into conversation, etc. Where's the tie here? It's a similar joke that could stand on its own without Family Guy having ever used the same joke. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:06, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***** For me it was the coins jingling inside homestar they way they did inside peter. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
****** But that's still just part of the similar joke that could easily stand on its own without FG having ever done the joke. It's not solid. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:21, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
******The point is we do have probable cause to believe this. I suppose it could be revised to say it was posted the day after a very similar joke on family guy aired, and that wether this was a wink at Seth Mcfarline, is unknown. That much is clearly true. --02:52, 23 May 2005 (UTC)~
******* We have just as much reason to accept this as "Get Back Loretta" and you Declined that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:55, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*******I obviously feel the reasoning provided is sufficient and much better than on that one, or I would have declined this one. I didn't however. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*******The only "reasoning" supplied has just given weight to the argument that this is a coincidence. Once again, the fact that the toons aired so close to each other, the fact that TBC DO NOT rip off jokes directly from other people (instead using more subtle references like in the Halloween toons), and that the jokes are not identical only help to show that its a coincidence. Nobody has given reasoning beyond the close air date. THAT is why people are so opposed to this one. And to the person who said the coin jingling noises were similiar: Get a bunch of coins together. Jingle them. Sound familier? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*******Apparently more are not opposed to it, then opposed. All you're argueing is "cus I said so". --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
********And now you're once again resorting to petty insults. Way to give me another reason to see this fun "fact" die. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I vote against. Similar jokes, yes. But not enough to consider one a referance to the other. '''Decline''' --[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 22:41, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is getting sort of petty on both sides, but my firm stance is: if this was referring to anything other than Family Guy, it probably would already be Declined unanimously. This fact is EQUALLY as valid as dozens of other Declined facts. The arguments that have been provided are all circumstantial and probably coincidental: a similar joke that happened to be one day apart. The words "might be" in the fact (which ARE there) cause almost everyone on this Wiki to Decline it without even reading any further. No solid connections - NONE - have been provided. Okay, so they both involve eating coins and having them jingle. That doesn't automatically make it a reference, since no dialogue is reproduced and no names are mantioned. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:41, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
* And I'll say it one more time - it doesn't actually ''refer to'' Family Guy at all. If it IS based on Family Guy then it's nothing more than joke theft, and I'd like to think that The Bros. Chaps are above that sort of plagiarism. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:49, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**Besides, (and this IS getting really petty), the way that Homestar made the sound of coins jangling is not similar enough to be called a reference to how Peter jangled. I mean, how many characters of cartoons have eaten change before anyway? How many have jangled in some sort afterwards as part of a joke? Even if this is a reference (which i highly doubt to be as such), what makes you think it was a Family Guy reference? If Homestar ate nickles, maybe. I like FG as much as the next guy, and I respect both the creators of FG and HSR to be original enough to not steal a joke from someone else. To me, this is starting to feel like that episode of South Park entitled "Simpsons Did it." Have we become Butters people? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:19, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*OK, I think this has been up for quite a while, and even though there is a lot of discussion, there are 15 Accepts and 6 Declines, so this looks like a winner.
** ''{At this point, Jay starts crying. Strong Bad puts away his Li'l Brudder drawing and walks away laughing.}'' How can the SAME PEOPLE declining "No la dee la dee la" accept this? It boggles my mind. There is no substance to this fact. It is "Family Guy did this, and Homestar did it too, and although there's no solid connection, it MUST be a reference" being accepted while "TBC are referencing THEMSELVES in something that contextually makes NO SENSE if it's not a reference and they reference themselves ALL THE FRIKKING TIME" being declined??? HAS THE WIKI GONE MAD?!?!?!?! ''{pant pant}'' Seriously needed to get that out of my system. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:37, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**This is a very sad day for democracy. I can't believe that so many people believe that a connection exists just because two humor places did a similar joke at a similar time. Maybe this explains why so many believe in Nostradamus, fortune telling, <s>and god.</s> -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:04, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*** I'm neither agreeing nor disagreeing with you (out loud) but watch what you type - some people can be VERY aggressive about defending their religion when comments like that are made (I'm not one of them, but I've met enough people who are.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:39, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Sorry about that. It was meant to be a joke. I mean no offense to anybody, religious or not. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:42, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

===A Type of Bad Grammar (DECLINED)===
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a
"DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005
*'''Big-Time Decline'''. Needs to be ''baleeted!'' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:27 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''weak accept''' Because, when we think of deleted, we usually think of Strong Bad saying aloud "deleted," and DELETED appearing on the screen. Except here, he said "do over" and the screen displayed "DO OVER!" Every time the screen on any computer has said deleted, Strong Bad has said it. But, it doesn't always do what he tells it to. (I'm thinkin sisters and virus.)[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:25, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*'''Decline''' Please people. It was a phrase that appeared on the screen. It's not any sort of Deleted! cousin. --'''[[user:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]][[User talk:mibluvr13|dígame]]''' 23:22, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===Stnank or Not? (DECLINED)===

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Yeah. It does.
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What with the angry mothers, and the declining in the town square for all to see...''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:52, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===Tandy 400 Goofs (Accepted)===
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Accept''' - This has all the funness of the fact without the factness of the fun. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptyness''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:52, 9 Jun 2005
*'''Yay, yummy acceptness!''' Why should this be STUFF'd? [[User:68.161.140.124|68.161.140.124]] 01:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:14, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==IMMEDIATE contesting of an Accepted fact==

I'm not letting this die until the fact does. I'm invoking the little-used but perfectly valid power to CONTEST a bad fact that got accepted anyway. I refer, of course, to the Family Guy non-reference, AKA "Change of Pace" (see above). There is no reason to believe that it's a reference that can't be chalked up to pure coincidence, and if the "fact" is true, then it doesn't mean that there was any "homage" - it means that TBC are plagiarists, and I'd prefer to think of them as being better than that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Although this sort of reminds me of Star Wars (so this is how democracy dies), I am with ya. But how would this work anyhow? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Good question. I'm not sure a Fun Fact has ever been seriously contested before. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:41, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Right on brudda! This is a stinky one! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:I propose creating a rebel group devoted to fighting this evil menace. Or you know just bitching about it for a while until they see it our way. Whichever works. -- [[User:69.39.99.20|69.39.99.20]] 21:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:: Whoever you are, as I've stated about a dozen times, this fact is equally as "valid" as many other facts that were tossed straight out the window with unanimous declines. If this had been about almost anything besides Family Guy, it probably would have been thrown out the window with them. I am only trying to keep this Wiki loaded with GOOD facts. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:59, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::Jay, I hate to be the pessimist in some respects, but I honestly don't think you will win this fight, no matter how nobel the cause. A lot of people like Family Guy so much that it blinds their ability to judge objectivly the validity of this so called fact. Of course, I'm right with you in fighting it, but all I'm saying is that it might not work out so well. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:09, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I say this with sincerity and in friendship: What, exactly, are you contesting? Do you want a recount? Okay, I see 16 accepts and 8 declines. Wasn't the process followed correctly? Everyone has had two full weeks to weigh in, and everybody got one vote. If you're just upset that the vote didn't go your way, then my friend, I am afraid I cannot help you. I must point out, however, that you're starting to sound like ''A Few Good Men'' ("Your honor, I object!" "Overruled!" "No, I ''strenuously'' object." "Oh, well, I guess I'd better reconsider.").<div style="text-indent: 2em">The vast majority of fun facts that are based on speculation get declined. Note that they don't get declined because they are necessarily incorrect; they simply do not have enough evidence to support them. (See [[Talk:dangeresque_3#Constantinople.3F_.28Declined.29|Constantinople]] for another example.) But just because you vote "decline" on something does not make it false. Short of TBC making some kind of announcement about this, there's ''no way'' you can be 100% sure that the accepts are wrong and the declines are right. As for me, I was ready to decline the fact, but I decided to watch the toon once more and see what I thought. After viewing it again, and ''considering the timing'', I decided that there was ''just enough'' there for it to be too coincidental to be a coincidence. (And, incidentally, my vote wasn't based on whether ''I'' like ''Family Guy'', but whether I thought TBC do.) I notice that you admit not having seen the episode in question. How, then, can you be so sure? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:45, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)</div>
::Dot com, I have seen the episode, and have been and still am a huge fan of Family Guy. The fact is that this being a reference means that TBC is ''stealing'' a joke. I just didnt consider TBC to be theives and to be original enough.
::Now, I agree. These arguments have been stated and restated millions of times. Saying them over and over again accomplishes nothing. All I am saying is that I think that this form of democracy is flawed. The majority of votes made were done so, IMHO, because the voter enjoys Family Guy. I agree that there is nothing that can be done. Democracy has spoken. I am just disapointed in the STUFF rules so that such a rediculous (again, in my opinion) "fact" can be accepted by such a large margin. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:03, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::I am not a strong supporter of this fact (see my vote way above), I just ''lean'' toward accepting it. And I see your point, but I don't think TBC would consider it stealing. Or if they did, they might not care. Here's how I see it playing out: "Hey, Matt, Peter's eating nickels... that's funny!" "Yeah, Mike, we should have Homestar do something like that. I'll put it in the scene that I'm working on ''right now''." (Emphasis mine.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I'm with Jay on this. I'ma email the Chappos; hopefully they'll answer. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 23:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::I think that's an excellent idea, FireBird. If I had my wish, I'd interview them about once a year and ask about all our little facts that we get so worked up over but they have probably forgotten all about. They'd probably laugh me right out of their office, or basement, or wherever. But then at least ''we'd'' sleep better at night. Actually, if I had my wish then Strong Bad would answer one of my emails. Or, better yet, someone would give me a million dollars bill. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::: You could try asking your computer to print one. Just make sure you say "[[couch patch|please]]". Okay, seriously. The arguments I have given before are the arguments I give now - if it's true, it makes plagiarists of TBC, and there's not enough evidence that we know it's true in the first place. I don't know if they'd ever even bother answering your question, but if they did, it would certainly clear up a lot — just don't count on it happening. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::Plagiarize!
::::Let no one else's work evade your eyes!
::::Remember why the good Lord made your eyes,
::::So don't shade your eyes,
::::But plagiarize, plagiarize, plagiarize-
::::Only be sure always to call it please "research". [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]

Did they even have enough time from the airing of the FG episode to put it in? I mean, they would've had to do it last minute if it was a reference. Besides, Family Guy is NOT the first to think of change jingle-jangling. -[[Special:Contributions/66.41.62.253|66.41.62.253]] 22:18, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:Please note that this discussion is almost four years old. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:20, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

== Hey ==

Any ideas why Homestar and The Cheat switched? Tell me.

:No clue. This idea would be better posed on the [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ Forum]. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:02, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== homestar saying "booooo" instead of "mooooo"?==
i always thought that he said booooo. i think he would say that because he is kind of booing strong bad for his "wrong" statement. I also thought that Strong Bad just interpreted it wrong. i could be wrong, i'm just making a statement.
- DDR_freak1
ugh i forgot my user name. at least that's what i THINK it was.
:I hear "moo". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:21, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

* ok, i just thought that it would make more sense if he said moo, but then again, homestar isn't really supposed to make sense in the first place, huh? :P

==Ben Franklin?==
I dunno about you, but when I listen to the first part of the this email, it reminds me strongly of Ben Franklin's Autobiography, in which he claims to have never made a mistake, but nonetheless has a few "errata" in his life. Thoughts? - Rowen

:That's an interesting theory, but I'm afraid it's too big a stretch to include in the article. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:06, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

== Moldy Bread ==

Moldy bread has been mentioned three times: [[Fortune Cookies]], [[do over]], and [[Thy Dungeonman II]]. This seems to be more than a coincidence — it's not a very common phrase. What/where's the best way/place to note this? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:02, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:How about [[Bread]]? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 20:25, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
::Good thinking — thanks for the reply. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:43, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:::You're welcome. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 20:46, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== Phantom keyboard ==

I found a goof...or something.

When SB is redoing the Ali and Ali's sister email, he manages to hit the keyboard without actually typing anything for one split second before he types "No. No dying.". Anybody else notice this? -[[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 12:05, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

== Two-dimensional ==

:''While he is disguised as The Cheat, Homestar's shirt is solid yellow (with spots) while his legs and head are colored in scribbly yellow with visible white streaks, which implies that he is wearing a costume shirt but has colored his skin with a marker or paintbrush. However, he has a fringe of white not colored in all around his visible outline, which makes sense only if Homestar is genuinely two-dimensional, or if he has only colored the left side of his body (and about two-thirds of each foot).''
This seems too nitpicky for the article (after all, these characters ''are'' two-dimensional), but interesting nonetheless. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:37, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

== Matt's Motto ==

I really don't think Matt's "motto", "wah wah wah" is repeated by Homestar in [[Cool Things|Cool Things]]. He's just imitating a trombone. Seriouswy. [[User:Dementedc|Dementedc]] 19:22, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

== Crisps, A-Soy! ==

Crisps, A-Soy! seems like a reference/parody of [[Wikipedia:Chips Ahoy!|Chips Ahoy!]]--[[Special:Contributions/66.245.248.55|66.245.248.55]] 04:47, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
:Yep, as noted in [[do over#Real-World References|Real-World References]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:53, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

== Disputed fun fact ==

"In [[sisters]] Strong Bad's misfortune was due to a computer error, not any 'stnank' he may have made."

Strong Bad ''did'' say "deleted," which I think caused the computer to delete the email, meaning that it ''was'' a stnank. Am I correct on this? {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 22:17, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:Looking at the transcript, it seems he says "deleted" as the screen flashes the word, reading if off the computer. He says "deleted" because the email was deleted; not the other way around. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::I might have to be a real stickler on this and say that technically, Strong Bad starts saying "A-Deleted" at frame 280, and the screen starts its message on frame 283, but I don't think that matters at all, as it wouldn't make much sense for Strong Bad to just randomly say that... {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 04:49, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree with DorianGray's interpretation. I think that Strong Bad's saying "Deleted" (almost) simultaneously as it flashes on the screen is for comedic effect, and the fact that he starts to say it a split second before it appears is just the timing of the joke. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:42, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

==Unusual==

Isn't it unusual that TBC redid emails? [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 17:11, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

== Pikachu reference? ==

Is it just me, or does Homestar's second line sound like "Squeakachu" (or "Squeakaku" due to Homestar's accent) --[[Special:Contributions/203.160.119.126|203.160.119.126]] 23:55, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

It ''does'' sound like that, but I don't think it was on purpose.--[[User:Metaphoricallycrazy|M.C.]] | [[User talk:Metaphoricallycrazy|Talk]] 00:59, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Talk:do over

2009-07-04T00:57:28Z

Metaphoricallycrazy: Not really.

==Homestar's costume==

This article states that: "{Homestar Runner shuffles up on his knees. He's scribbled yellow marker on himself, attached some black thing to his head, and put black dots all on one side to look like The Cheat.}" Given that The Cheat is dressed as Homestar in the easter egg I can imagine there's some kind of co-operation there; basically I think it's a fairly baseless assumption to say that Homestar has dressed himself up when we don't actually see the act or any kind of authoritative reference to it, and The Cheat was obviously in on it.

Thoughts? --Goatboy

:You know, that's a good point. The description could be just as effective and concise without having to make that assumption. I'll adjust it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:25, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Spike==
Coach Zed is reminiscent of Snoopy's brother Spike.

Yeah, that's what I thought. [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 21:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== Marzipan: Ignorant? ==

I don't think Marzipan is as smart as was previously shown. She couldn't see through such an obvious disguise in the Easter Egg. It would seem Homestar and her are very alike... --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 19:45, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*I dunno... she couldn't tell that [[Homestar Jr.]] wasn't really talking. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:06, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*I personally think that Marzipan only pictures herself as smarter than Homestar, in a similar fashion to how Strong Bad pictures himself as a cool ladies man. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
** Strong Bad IS a cool ladies man. -Jhonka
*I'm guessing Marzipan knew that it was The Cheat and just took advantage of the opportunity. Her and The Cheat have seemed to have had a thing for each other for a while anyway. -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 01:56, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
** O_o If you say so... --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 01:57, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Don't forget about Tofu Homestar. She seems to like Homestar more when he's not really Homestar. :P -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*Marzipan's none too bright, it seems. '_' --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 22:32, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

== SCRAWNY ADDITIONS ==

Stop making scrawny additions like "running time: 4:23". I had the entire sbemail done and then it said "someone else has changed the page" and all that was changed was that you added "running time: 4:23"! Thanks a lot! --[[User:EMJS|''EMJS'']] [[User talk:EMJS|(Talk)]] 19:50, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

: It's just as well. I finished the draft anyway. And, as a note, your edit is at the bottom of the screen in an Edit Conflict and can be easily copy/pasted back. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:51, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

NOTE: Edit conflict; what a great way to make my point!
:Uh, you know that your text is on the bottom, right? You can easily copy the text from there, as I just did. Also, running time is an important factor, not a scrawny addition. Sorry you got cheated out of a transcript, but it's happened to others too. (Btw, sign your comment) --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]|[[User talk:acekirby13|My Talk]] 19:51, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== My first addition to the Wiki (or to any Wiki for that matter) ==

I added a link to the forum thread. That is the only change I made. I hope I didn't screw anything up. On my first try, I took too long and got the "Someone else has edited this page" alert, so I cut-to-clipboard the link I added, backed out, and clicked edit again, and as fast as possible, added the link and clicked save.
- Jalexster (sorry, didn't know about not signing my comment. I'll get the hang of everything soon.)
: Cool. We all have to start somewhere. However - and I'm not trying to be rude - but this might be better served on your [[User:Jalexter|user page]]. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 20:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
:: Sorry. Should I delete my comment and move it? - Jalexster
::: I'll let it slide, but you can delete it if you want to. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 20:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== Possible Family Guy Reference ==

Last night's new Family Guy episode featured Peter swallowing nickels to get the world record. He also made the jangling noise with his belly. Would this possibly be a reference to Family Guy or is it to vague?
--[[User:24.27.135.88|24.27.135.88]] 21:16, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, there's a vote going on in STUFF about that right now. I certainly think it is, especially given that they've been known to make emails at the last minute and the timing seems too perfect to be a coincidence. From after I voted, 2 people (including myself) say yes and 1 person says no. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 21:18, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

I don't think its a reference, as the episode premiered on Sunday and the email premiered today...I don't think that TBC would have enough time to make such a reference, even if they cared. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]

I noticed this too and was completely weirded out. The Brothers Chaps often pull all-nighters getting their emails out, and this one came later in the day. I'm almost positive it was a reference. And I know this shouldn't be in here, but that was a great Family Guy episode! -- [[User:Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] 02:00, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

I was about to list this one. This premiered one day after that episode; whether it consciously influenced them or not, I think it is definitely behind that part of the email. --jbo

According to interviews and such, one of the longest it takes to make a sbemail is 3 or 5 days. They can make a sbemail pretty quickly these days... So it's quite possible. --[[User:StarWarsMonkey|StarWarsMonkey :-)]] 00:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

== 'School'? ==

There were two references in this email about SB and Homestar going to school together (possibly with Strong Mad). Has this ever been mentioned before, or is it just a random joke of some kind?

It has. Strong Sad was talking about how he went to school in Yellow Dello. Sign your posts.-Alice

He ate colored chalk in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]. -H*R guyman.

== little hearts ==

When I first watched this email, there weren't any little hearts above Homestar's head when he said "Strong Bad, I think I'm falling for you." Did anyone else catch that?-Alice
: I saw it very shortly after it came out. Like within less than half an hour. As far as I know, the hearts were always there. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:46, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

: Same here. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:47, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

oops. my bad. -Alice

== Homestar: Gay? ==

From what he did in this email, Homestar seems like he's gay. Do you think he is?
-Kinsey
: I'm not sure that Strong Bad's imagination counts as canon. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 19:45, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

::EDIT CONFLICT'd!!! With Strong Bad cutting out like that, I don't think that part was real. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 19:46, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

::Homestar "falls" for SB in "real-time", not as part of the do-over. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

::: Does he? Strong Bad immediately ends the whole thing and acts as though it never happened after Homestar falls for him. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 20:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

:::They go into the sequence in what seems like "reality". But they do come out of it as if he was imagining. Regardless, it's just a joke. Strong Bad's allure is so strong, everyone falls for him! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

:Regardless of whether it was imaginary or not, it seems like the joke is that Strong Bad was singing such a terrible song, and then a GUY fell in love with him. And without another reference to Homestar's sexuality, I wouldn't say that this constitutes as a fact. -- [[User:Lord Karkon|Lord Karkon]]

:sigh: Just becasue Homestar has the socio-cognitive developmental equiviency of a 10-year-old does not make him "Gay." (If I used to many big words for you, I just said that Homestar acts like a child).
Does this make him "Retarded?" Quite possibly, but not gay. He's just blissfully unaware of sexuality; much like your litle brother that giggles when you say a mildly naught word. Keep in mind the nature of his relationship with Marzipan. To sum him up, he's not just dim in "I've got a girfriend" department, he's dim to the point of fumbling around a lot and bumping into stuff (not just figuratively, I might add). Is it any wonder that Marzipan is mostly indiferent to his advances?
Be this as it may, I don't believe it's helpfull to put such labels on Homestar. Even if he were a flaming homosexual who advertised his homosexuality and organized daily Gay Pride marches in Strong Bad's living room* I really would't see the point in actively applying the "gay" label to him.

*Why there? Becasue he'd be gay but still Homestar. He's be Gaystar Runner. Or perhaps Homestar Gayer. Take your pick.

This concludes the mostly pointless but also mildly amusing "is he Gay" thread. You may now question your own sexuality if you like.

*Ok, Guys. I'm sorry if I offended anyone. In fact, I'll make you feel happier by saying '''Homestar is NOT GAY!!''' -Kinsey

**I think that the real answer is that '''Homestar is too stupid/innocent to have a sexual orientation at all.''' <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:56, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

***Yeah. The parades sound humourous, though...I can see it...SB: Homestar, what are you doing?
HR: I'm putting on a rainbowcolor two-blue-crayon parade in your living room! SB: You WHAT!?!?!?!?! Allright, no one needs to see this! ''{SB covers camera with his glove}'' I made up the phrase "Two Blue Crayons" because I don't have the guts to say "gay". My friend Thomas teases me about it all the time, saying that I am "that". It all started with a joke, I was feeling really immature and-hey, Homestar could have been just immature, and did weird things. I think so.
-Alex H.

==Casting Coach Zed==
No one seems to be able to agree on this. Should Coach Zed be in the cast list? I vote yes, BTW. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 20:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

No, I don't think so. He was probably just a one-time easter egg gag. --[[User:StarWarsMonkey|StarWarsMonkey :-)]] 00:08, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
: So what? He appeared so he should be in the cast list. I mean, we included Li'l Brudder in the cast list of [[crying]], did we not? And as far as we knew at the time, he was just a one-time gag, correct? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:13, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
:: Li'l Brudder plays a much bigger part in [[crying]] than Coach Zed does in [[do over]]. Also, without the easter egg drawing, Coach Zed isn't really a different person. I say leave him out of the cast list. --[[User:68.82.147.62|68.82.147.62]] 05:37, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

== "Attack of the Show"-ed? ==

This is probably stretching, but Strong Bad whacking Homestar with the keyboard could be considered a reference to the [http://www.g4tv.com/videos/index.html?video_key=9042 Homerowed sketch] found on [http://www.g4tv.com/aots Attack of the Show]. The show used to be [http://www.g4tv.com/screensavers/ The Screen Savers], which featured an interview of TBC: [[Screen Savers Interview - 24 Jan 2005]] --[http://www.madcrasher.com/main/index.php?module=about#e-mail madcrasher]

I just added a note pointing out that the whole "Zed" thing is a bit of a misconception, although technicly it is correct. If you look it up in a grammar/pronounciation guide, it's there. However, in reality it's not so simple. Due to the constant exposure to american media (tv, movies, print, etc.) you are less and less likely to hear a Canadian in Canada actualy pronounce the letter "Z" as "zed" now than you were thrity years ago. Since it seems that it takes about thirty years for the grammar & diction handbooks to get with the times, it's not surprising that you yanks think we canucks all say "Zed" all; the time up here in the great frozen igloo-factury that is Canada. (You just keep thinking we all live in igloos. Gives you less reason to want to invade us.) ;)

In fairness, sometimes I will still pronounce it "zed", especialy when it comes to spelling my nameout loud, (For those of you who weren't paying attention, I just told you that my name has one or more "z" in it.) I know it's still prevelent and has not died outr of useage. I'm just trying to point out that Canadians are not known to say "Zee" from time to time as well as "Zed". Ok?

Now, if you realy wanna get into a pronunciation debate, ask me how to pronounce "Saskatchewan" or "Toque" or "Poutine" (and no, the last one is not the name of the current Russian leader, bet rather an food item unique to Canada.) Or something harder if you really wanna get into it.
I'm all Canadian, all the time.

-Sarge

== Round ol red head? (or something similar) ==

Isn't the begginning of the serenade a reference to the King of town's description of Strong Bad in the Strong Bad in jail cartoon? -Carlo

I don't think so, but it is more evidence toward the theory that the wrestling mask is Strong Bad's head. -Alice

== Unrelated RWR ==
*Strongbad's denying that he has ever made any mistakes is a reference to George W. Bush's similar answer to that question during a press conference.
**''Found this in real world references. IMO, it's rediculously stretched, and hardly related at all, so i'll be removing it from the RWR for now. If there's any objections, take it to STUFF, k?'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 23:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

== Possible goof ==
Marzipan never wears lipstick, sohow did she cover The Cheat in it?-Ashley

Good Point. It shows, as was mentiones above, that Marzipan likes Homestar more when he's not actually Homestar. That kind of thing always happens in cartoons. -Alice

How did Marzi slap Homestar in The Yello Dello toon? And who knows if her "hands" are shaped like that?-Leels

== Coach Zed = Spike? ==

Hey...am I the only person who thinks that the drawing of "Coach Zed" looks like Snoopy's brother Spike from Peanuts? Maybe it's the whiskers... -Jeff

:Nope, [[do over#Fun Facts#Real-World References|you're not]]. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 02:58, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
:: It's not listed there, but it IS listed next to the Coach Zed Easter egg and on the [[Coach Zed]] page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
:::Oops.{{User:FireBird/sig}} 03:07, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

==Closed STUFF==
===Grammatically Incorrect (DECLINED)===

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
*<s>'''Accept''', yeah ok. makes sense to me</s> Actually, no. "Alright" is more or less an acceptable word. Besides, who says Strong Bad doesn't use slang? '''Decline'''-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*Decline Nitpicky is this not? Who cares? If this were called "select the usable BORING facts, maybe. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
**'''Second'''yeah, this isn't STUB-F it's STUFF--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' Alright, is actually considered proper nowadays. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept first''' but '''Decline second''' The first one is good because it is incorrect and he uses it twice in the email, but the second one is the same thing that the sender emailed. And I dont think the part about "Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes" is important either. I guess my vote should be a Rewrite, but I can't think of a good way to write it right now.
**Let's just leave it at '''Declined'''. While "alright" isn't accepted as proper English by everyone, it appears in the dictionary, and using "different" instead of "differently" is exactly the kind of subtle mocking of his fans that Strong Bad does all the time.[[User:Kyushu|Kyushu]]
*'''Decline''' I use "alright" all the time. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 10:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Apparently, alright is [http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=alright alright]. In addition, SB does this ALL THE TIME. It's just not notable any more. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I may dislike the word ''alright'', all right, but it's far from the first time Strong Bad has used it. And "do differently," while technically correct, is not worth a mention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declime.''' Did you never notice how Strong Bad uses grammatically-incorrect phrases like "anydangway" and "TWELVE SIDED DIE'D!!" all the freakin' time? 22:01 17 May 05
**Not to diminish your point, but those aren't quite ungrammatical. The first is an example of [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], and the second is an awkward noun-to-verb shift.
***Still ungrammatical though, isn't it? [[User:82.43.183.38|82.43.183.38]] 18:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****It's not correct formal grammar, but as slang it's perfectly okey-dokey.
*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad is a grammar Nazi, sure, but he's using slang there. I'm an English major working to become an editor, and as such I am a grammar Nazi, and I still use slang like that. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Much as I hate seeing the word "alright" used that way, it's (sadly) considered acceptable in that context. As for different/differently, I would probably use either word if I wasn't thinking. I'm glad it was noticed, but this fact really isn't too fun. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 07:36, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Bor-ing. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declinition'''Um...sorta just a random weak connection, pointless and BORING [[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
* '''"Hey Maestro, if you get DECLINED, can I pick through your stuff on the way back to sol?"'''2 reasons.1) Look, everybody makes some sort of grammar mistake in their life, and 2)Very irrelevant. That's slang that Strong Bad uses all the time. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:40, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
===Totally not gettin' old? (DECLINED)===
"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

*'''Accept''' Despite how often the word is used here, this is only the second time it's used on the site, so it counts as a reference. If it's used a third time, it should be split off as an [[:Category:Inside Jokes|inside joke]], or deleted entirely (to be decided if and when that happens) --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' I was thinking the same thing. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very strong decline''' I've heard and said "Anydangway" long before it was ever used in anything Homestar-related. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Maybe that just what Strong Bad likes to say...why would it be a reference or an inside joke? Is Homestar saying "guys" and inside joke? Or The Cheat's "Meh"? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Anydeclineway...''' Dude, "anydangway" was like, my first word, man. JEEZ! Yeah, and I think Aunt Gert being 22 and a half cents is a reference to SBEmail 22. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Obvious Declining with a funny pun.''' It's a word I use. And it's common. -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|MK and/or BurnBox]] 16:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Why is it that using the same word means it's a reference to another toon where that word is used? That does not make sense. If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second,''' except for the part about Chewbacca.
===George W. Stnank (DECLINED)===
Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
*'''Decline''' Okay, first of all, let me be the first to say: NO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS!!! As for the fact itself, I think it's a funny coincidence — they both said more or less the same thing, and both with questionable veracity — but just a coincidence, nothing more. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**You spelled "political" wrong. It's po-''lic''-tical.[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:18, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*I actually thought this at first when I heard strong bad say this, but you know what? Even if it was a reference its not clear or fun enough to make a fact. '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 04:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Baclined!''' I already deleted this once, as I informed on the talk page... I ''SAID'' to take it to STUFF if there was any disagreements with the deletion! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 13:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I wouldn't put it past TBC to have made this a Bush joke, this joke is still vague enough for it to be a coincidence. Besides, Strong Bad is the type not to admit to a mistake. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:37, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''(gets hit over head) just 'cause ol' GW has made quite a few mistakes, not to mention quite a few words. "misunderestemated", KERRY/EDWARDS '04, wait, crap, too late--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
**Jay did say no political arguments...besides, its more a comment on Strong Bad's refusal to admit mistakes, not GWBs.
***Not an arguement, a comment. I'll stop though
*'''Decline.''' Oh. Come. On. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 02:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''The Kline''' Nope, it's just ol' fashion SB arrogance. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' And yes, please avoid discussion of politics at all costs. Political discussions ruin communities. Proven fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' No, that was just Strong Bad being Strong Bad. It probably has nothing to do with Dubya. And no discussion of politics. That's bad. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*'''Decline.''' Need I say more? [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
===Bang On The Drum (DECLINED)===
When Homestar hits the drum, it changes pitch, but a real drum could not do this without adjustment. Knowing that Homestar's "arms" are invisible, he may be doing this and it can't be noticed.
*THIS was in the remarks it seams useless to me don't change it is in the remarks on the page for DO OVER allred this is just caliging it
*'''Decline''' First, sign your posts. Second, although I do think this is mildly interesting, it is not enough to really merit a fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*Decline The angle and force at which the drum is struck can affect it somewhat as well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Decline''' Homestar has no arms invisible or otherwise. Quit saying that he does. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 02:35, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' because your geekdar's broken. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:28, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''revise''' eliminate the second sentence completely. [[User:Fizz123|Fizz123]]
*'''Decline''' as it is false. If you hit the centre of a drum it gives a low pitch, but hitting the edge of a drum gives a higher pitch. Plus things like how hard you hit the drum, as mentioned above. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 11:38, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Seriously, have you nothing better to do than speculate as to how percussion works for people whose arms actully aren't there? Get a life.
*'''Second Fizz's Post.''' And I'm sure if it was eliminated in the first place, most of the people who have said "Dacline" would have probably voted "Accept." [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:20, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*Not me. '''Decline''' [[user: Lappy 486]][[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 22:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''ACCORPTED!!!'''Some revision wouldn't hurt but it's pretty good as is.[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
*'''Decline''' - [http://darthno.ytmnd.com/ Darth Vader summarizes my feelings]; just doesn't seem that noteworthy. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
===Falling for You (DECLINED)===
When Homestar comments "I think I'm falling for you", it's a reference to the Weezer song "Falling For You" off the Pinkerton album.

*This is a generic sentence that I've heard plenty of times outside Weezer songs - I've left it on do over in case, though.
*Uh, no. No it's not. Turn off geekdar. It's haywire. '''Dolores!''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 09:27, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' are we seriously voting for this? --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''DECLINE''' It's things like THIS that we need to purge STUFF from. Someone had reentered this "fun fact," and I didn't know it was in STUFF. But it looked so stupid, I just deleted it on the spot. That's what should have been done here. C'mon people, while some facts are good to STUFF, like the "Family Guy" one below, others are better off disappearing. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 12:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' This is only interesting in that the author attempted to atttribute the reference to a band other than TMBG! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:37, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Holy crap, no''' That's a very common phrase. Get this so-called fun fact out of my SIGHT. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:03, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Secondated!!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''This is absurd.''' This is ''not'' how STUFF was meant to work. This page is for those facts that fall in that gray area of "maybe good, maybe not." It's not for ''this'' kind of nonsense. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Um, I dunno what that MEANS! And you're still DECLINED!''' *cough* yup. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 14:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''No, it's not. (declined)''' 21:58 17 May 2005
*'''Yeah, shut up kid kthx''' Keep crap off kthx. ---[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 21:11, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Are you some sort of Declined Brew?''' Absurd loose music reference. No. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:33, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*Common pharse '''Declined''' [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''DEE-CLAAAANE!'''What?! Are you kidding? Everybody knows "Falling for you" is just a common phrase. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's a common phrase. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' 'Nuff said. -- SBEmail22
*'''Decline!''' What everyone else said. -- [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 10:58 AM, 21 May 2005
*This one doesn't even deserve my vote. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:59, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
=== Change of Pace (ACCEPTED) ===
Homestar eating coins might be a reference to the Family Guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy) episode that aired the night before this email was released, in which Peter Griffin also ate coins and made a very similar jingling sound.

*'''Accept-erson''' I actually saw Family Guy the night before this email was released and I thought about it as a watched this email. And considering the fact that [[TBC]] make updates (in this case, the new email) late Sunday night or early Monday morning (usually), it is a possibility. I mean, TBC seem like the kinda funny dudes who watch those kind of shows, like me. 8-P [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline.''' I'd think this would have been in the works for awhile. But, I did read in one of the interviews that they stick jokes in at the last minute. Still, I think it's a stretch. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I was just about to say that! Given the timing and Homestar's comment about being "jingly" ("tell me that doesn't sound like camp town races!") make me believe it. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 21:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!!!''' I'm willing to chalk this one up to coincidence without some more solid evidence (okay, okay, I didn't watch it, but it SOUNDS like it's the sort of thing I'd normally call a coincidence.) --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:24, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' As soon as I saw this, I immediately thought Family Guy, the timing is way too much of a coincedence, and the Brothers do e-mails on Sundays usually, especially since this one wasnt even up until later today, rather than early in the morning like usual. The brothers seem like the type who would watch Family Guy too. --[[User:Dex|Dex]] 21:28, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I would count this as a very bizzare coincidence...while it may be a reference, I doubt that TBC would have much time to put it in, and if they did if they cared so much...besides, TBC is not especially known to steal jokes from other shows. Reference them maybe, but it was essentially the same joke. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Accept.''' <s>I haven't made up my mind.</s> Although, if all the coins were ''nickels'', then it would be more clear-cut... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' and a minor '''rewrite'''-or at least a couple of fixes while I'm looking at it. I saw the same episode, and it seems like a reference to me. The timing's too good to make it unlikely. As for the rewrite, just stick 'aired' after 'episode' (doesn't sound right to me without it) and replace 'where' with 'in which' And Griffin has two Fs. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 23:25, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
**Since these changes don't affect the substance of the fact, we'd might as well go ahead and make them.
*Accept You theif!!! I wanted to say this. Oh well. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Why do you people think that TBC would reference the show, considering that the majority of Homestarrunner.com does not contain references to other pop culture shows and their jokes, especially not to the extent of stealing a joke. (after all it seems that the joke was not so much a reference as a direct steal if it was)....
**To the person who didn't sign their name: Uh... let me see here, Cheat Commandos is a huge reference to G.I. Joe, which was part of pop culture and is still a well-known character/franchise, Bug In Mouth Disease alludes to Dallas, pizzaz makes a Seinfeld reference, montage makes a big Rocky reference. As such, I have to disagree when you say HSR makes no references to pop culture. Granted, some of the many are no longer in pop culture, and some are dated, but one cannot say that there are no pop culture references. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 01:55, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
***Sorry about that, I forgot to hit the ~s. Now I was not saying that Homestarrunner.com never makes pop culture references...There are dozens, as TBC are big into pop culture in general. All I am saying is that the examples listed above parody or make fun of or at least ellaborate on pop culture. Not so with the alleged Family Guy reference. That seems to be (a) Not anywhere near as obvious as the others and (b) pretty much the same joke that Family Guy used. I personally would assume that TBC would be original enough to make up their own jokes, not use others, and I think there is a large difference in referencing and stealing the entire joke. Besides, I doubt they had enough time to anyway. I still think it is a coincidence. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
***On the other hand, it was posted one day after the episode aired, which is why I accepted this when I would normally decline --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
* In ''The Dilbert Future'' by Scott Adams, Scott has a chapter where he talks about ideas, and how sometimes they can come off as not-original. He wrote a chapter about security cameras in public places and when he turned on his T.V there was a report on the exact same thing. He wrote a comic with a joke about a fake opera singer called "Placebo Domingo" and when he opened his newspaper there was a comic with the same exact joke. I guess what I'm saying is...its a coincidence. Don't be so quick to accept just because of that. This one should never have been STUFF'D, just deleted. '''Decline from school''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Unless I see evidence that convinces me otherwise, I'ma gonna '''Second''' that. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:41, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' This one makes sense, and we all know that TBC will do last minute edits to make it even funnier. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 04:09, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
**But other than the fact that Homestar eats change, is there anything less...coincidental tying it to Family Guy?
**Yes, the fact that this sbemail was posted the day after that episode aired. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
** Yeah, nice to know you read my reply on COINCIDENCES. Because its likely just a COINCIDENCE do you have any other connections beyond, "it was posted the day after the Family Guy episode". [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**No but I'm not changing my vote and there's nothing ou can do about it. :D --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Sorry, everybody who declined this, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with this fun fact. '''Strong Accept.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 16:50, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
::Please don't tell people that there is nothing wrong with this. They have their own opinion, and that is okay. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
*I know I already voted, but this sounds too coincidental. The timing and the similar (but apparently not identical) jokes are the only connection anyone has brought forth - and that's not really enough for me. It's possible, I suppose, but usually the "could bes" of the Wiki get near-unanimous declines. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 21:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Rewrite''' I say we add something around "It's coincidental that a day before this email came out, Peter Griffin tried to eat coins in an episode of Family Guy." in "Remarks". →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|([[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]])
**That might make a bit more sense as a fun fact, but it still lacks any "funness" or "factitude" in my opinion. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''STRONG ACCEPT''' I watched family guy on sunday, and when I saw the e-mail it made me think in an instant- I think that's a reference to Family Guy. [[User:im_a_evil_wizard|im_a_evil_wizard]] 20:36, 17 May 2005 (ETC)
**I actually thought the exact same thing when I watched this toon on monday. However, despite my early instincts, logically the "reference" would not make sense to me, as listed above -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' Considering this email came out the day after the new Family Guy aired and it contained a very similar gag (even though Homestar didn't go blind from nickel poisoning), I'd say there's a good chance that this was an intentional reference. Family Guy seems like the type of show TBC would watch. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:44, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept so strong you'd think there were two of them''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:40, 18 May 2005
*'''Accept.''' Even if it is a coincidence, it's a good fun fact. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** If its a coincidence then there is no reason to list it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**Good thing it's not a coincidence --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** How can you be so sure? (oh, and when responded to a bulleted fact, use multiple stars instead of colons. It's easier to respond that way (you MUST use colons to respond to a colon-starred fact or it looks terrible), and the spacing is off if you use colons.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:45, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Usually when there's a pop culture reference, it's supposed to be what makes the joke funny. But this joke is funny on its own. It's actually less funny when I think about it being a reference, because like a bunch of other people said, it wouldn't be parodying, it would be stealing. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Accept.''' It wouldn't be stealing. It would be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage homage]-ing. [[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Accept''' I was thinking the same thing, but I thought it was a coincedence until I read in an intereveiw that they make the emails on Sunday. Now we just need Homestar to go blind. [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
* Okay look, if the e-mail had been posted a week or more after the Family Guy episode, this wouldn't even be an issue, it would've just been shrugged off as a similiar gag and not a reference. TBC are not stupid nor do they blindly rip gags off from other people. The fact that the e-mail aired so close to the FG episode only adds to the evidence that its a coincidence. Family Guy isn't the only cartoon or show to have characters eating change (an episode of the Simpsons had Bart eating change). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Incredibly Strong Accept''' I think this is completely true. Maybe I will second Jay. But I don't think I watched that night, which ep was it of FG? --[[Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:02, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I'm gonna say ACCEPT''' - Makes sense to me. I like that episode too! - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
*All right, I'm 90% sure that most of this is because you like Family Guy, not because there's a real connection. The timing is probably nothing more than a coincidence, and from my understanding, the joke is only vaguely similar. EVERY OTHER REFERENCE BAR NONE that goes through STUFF needs a solid connection or it gets near-unanimous declines, but that solid connection is curiously absent here. Why accept this fact? I can't see why! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. I just don't see it. Other than the fact that it involved coinage being eaten, I just don't see any similarity between the two incidents --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:04, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*To everyone who wants more evidence: In the Family Guy episode the previous night, there were a couple of jokes about the coins jingling in Peter's stomach, and Homestar makes a very similar jingling noise after eating the coins. - [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 10:13, 22 May 2005
**Uh, that was already a part of the fact and adds nothing to this discussion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
***Nor does it add any weight to the evidence that the two jokes are connected. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*I agree with Jay. I think you guys are trying to make a connections where there is none, simply because you want it. I don't think TBC would be cheap enough to steal a joke from Family Guy. I, too, enjoy FG. I enjoy it enough to realize that both Seth Mcfarlane and TBC are original enough to not copy eachother in some sort of "homage".... - [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**It's not a stolen joke or a borrowed one, it's a reference. Sort of like TBC saying "Hi, we like your show" --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*** If it IS based on FG, then it's a stolen joke, because they don't give any credit of any sort to the original - including SOLID references (like the type I've been asking for since my vote!). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:29, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Since when was did any of the referrences(anywhere on HR) get mentioned in the credits? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
***** You're taking the word too literally. I mean that the references make some mention that can easily be tied to something else that makes the reference (relatively) clear - the name of the character on the Halloween costume is revealed, an exact line of dialogue is replicated, the name of an establishment is thrown into conversation, etc. Where's the tie here? It's a similar joke that could stand on its own without Family Guy having ever used the same joke. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:06, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***** For me it was the coins jingling inside homestar they way they did inside peter. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
****** But that's still just part of the similar joke that could easily stand on its own without FG having ever done the joke. It's not solid. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:21, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
******The point is we do have probable cause to believe this. I suppose it could be revised to say it was posted the day after a very similar joke on family guy aired, and that wether this was a wink at Seth Mcfarline, is unknown. That much is clearly true. --02:52, 23 May 2005 (UTC)~
******* We have just as much reason to accept this as "Get Back Loretta" and you Declined that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:55, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*******I obviously feel the reasoning provided is sufficient and much better than on that one, or I would have declined this one. I didn't however. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*******The only "reasoning" supplied has just given weight to the argument that this is a coincidence. Once again, the fact that the toons aired so close to each other, the fact that TBC DO NOT rip off jokes directly from other people (instead using more subtle references like in the Halloween toons), and that the jokes are not identical only help to show that its a coincidence. Nobody has given reasoning beyond the close air date. THAT is why people are so opposed to this one. And to the person who said the coin jingling noises were similiar: Get a bunch of coins together. Jingle them. Sound familier? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*******Apparently more are not opposed to it, then opposed. All you're argueing is "cus I said so". --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
********And now you're once again resorting to petty insults. Way to give me another reason to see this fun "fact" die. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I vote against. Similar jokes, yes. But not enough to consider one a referance to the other. '''Decline''' --[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 22:41, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*This is getting sort of petty on both sides, but my firm stance is: if this was referring to anything other than Family Guy, it probably would already be Declined unanimously. This fact is EQUALLY as valid as dozens of other Declined facts. The arguments that have been provided are all circumstantial and probably coincidental: a similar joke that happened to be one day apart. The words "might be" in the fact (which ARE there) cause almost everyone on this Wiki to Decline it without even reading any further. No solid connections - NONE - have been provided. Okay, so they both involve eating coins and having them jingle. That doesn't automatically make it a reference, since no dialogue is reproduced and no names are mantioned. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:41, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
* And I'll say it one more time - it doesn't actually ''refer to'' Family Guy at all. If it IS based on Family Guy then it's nothing more than joke theft, and I'd like to think that The Bros. Chaps are above that sort of plagiarism. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:49, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**Besides, (and this IS getting really petty), the way that Homestar made the sound of coins jangling is not similar enough to be called a reference to how Peter jangled. I mean, how many characters of cartoons have eaten change before anyway? How many have jangled in some sort afterwards as part of a joke? Even if this is a reference (which i highly doubt to be as such), what makes you think it was a Family Guy reference? If Homestar ate nickles, maybe. I like FG as much as the next guy, and I respect both the creators of FG and HSR to be original enough to not steal a joke from someone else. To me, this is starting to feel like that episode of South Park entitled "Simpsons Did it." Have we become Butters people? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:19, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*OK, I think this has been up for quite a while, and even though there is a lot of discussion, there are 15 Accepts and 6 Declines, so this looks like a winner.
** ''{At this point, Jay starts crying. Strong Bad puts away his Li'l Brudder drawing and walks away laughing.}'' How can the SAME PEOPLE declining "No la dee la dee la" accept this? It boggles my mind. There is no substance to this fact. It is "Family Guy did this, and Homestar did it too, and although there's no solid connection, it MUST be a reference" being accepted while "TBC are referencing THEMSELVES in something that contextually makes NO SENSE if it's not a reference and they reference themselves ALL THE FRIKKING TIME" being declined??? HAS THE WIKI GONE MAD?!?!?!?! ''{pant pant}'' Seriously needed to get that out of my system. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:37, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**This is a very sad day for democracy. I can't believe that so many people believe that a connection exists just because two humor places did a similar joke at a similar time. Maybe this explains why so many believe in Nostradamus, fortune telling, <s>and god.</s> -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 18:04, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*** I'm neither agreeing nor disagreeing with you (out loud) but watch what you type - some people can be VERY aggressive about defending their religion when comments like that are made (I'm not one of them, but I've met enough people who are.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:39, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**** Sorry about that. It was meant to be a joke. I mean no offense to anybody, religious or not. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:42, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

===A Type of Bad Grammar (DECLINED)===
This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

*'''Rewrite''' "A type of deleted?" Come on. Also, it's technically not a DELETED screen because it, you know, doesn't say "deleted." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Outright Decline.''' Save it for when we get an ''actual'' Deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' A "do over" is not the same as a "deleted." -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It doesn't say "DELETED!". It doesn't delete the email. Remind me again how it's a "type of DELETED"? --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 14:51, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Brraaap! Declinated'''. Comment on it if you like but you shouldn't say it's a "type of DELETED" because 1) It doesn't say DLETED!!, 2) It doesn't delete anything and 3) That's bad grammars.
*'''Decline''' Y'all have said it all -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
*'''Great jorb, Decline.''' As noted before, it's a Do Over, not a Deleted. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 22:31, 17 May 2005 (CDT)
*'''Surprised at your lack of a good Fun Fact, Declined.''' It does sort of remind you of a DELETED screen, but unless you see the word DELETED, it's not a DELETED screen. Though I guess this could be mentioned on the [[DELETED]] page as one of the screens that resembles a DELETED screen. (With DELORTED and MATT and other intentional parodies of the DELETED screen.) --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 15:28, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It wasn't a DELETED, it was a 'do over', you can tell because Strong Bad re-does the email instead of just trashing it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
*'''Rewrite.''' I think the reason everybody's declining this is because it's poorly written and not very clear. Let me take a whack at it:
<pre>This is the first email in which we see anything even close to a
"DELETED!" on the Lappy.</pre>
[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second.''' I think we can work with that. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline Both''' - Just because it's an message that fills the whole screen with a sound effect doesn't make it the DELETED! screen or related to the DELETED! screen. It doesn't even do anything similar to what DELETED! did. I mean, it brung the email back! I guess it deleted Strong Bad's email, but it's still to obscure to be mentioned. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 02:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Second''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''A type of Decline''' Second. --[[user: Lappy 486]] [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 12:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Done Over''' It's close to a DELETED, but it is not an actual DELETED. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wait.''' If this screen is ever used again with "DELETED!" instead of "Do Over", then put this up. If not, don't. [[User:152.163.101.6|152.163.101.6]] 20:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'd.''' It's not exactly important enough to be considered a fact, sorry. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]>[[User talk:SaikoRoxi]] -- 6:33 PM, 21 May 2005
*'''I decline thee! *whack*''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:00, 24 May 2005
*'''Big-Time Decline'''. Needs to be ''baleeted!'' [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:27 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''weak accept''' Because, when we think of deleted, we usually think of Strong Bad saying aloud "deleted," and DELETED appearing on the screen. Except here, he said "do over" and the screen displayed "DO OVER!" Every time the screen on any computer has said deleted, Strong Bad has said it. But, it doesn't always do what he tells it to. (I'm thinkin sisters and virus.)[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 21:25, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
*'''Decline''' Please people. It was a phrase that appeared on the screen. It's not any sort of Deleted! cousin. --'''[[user:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]][[User talk:mibluvr13|dígame]]''' 23:22, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===Stnank or Not? (DECLINED)===

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
*''SB actually DID delete the email himself, i.e. made a stnank, it was the illiterate person's email that the Tandy did the wrong thing on, Saving it instead of deleting it.'' [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

*'''Decline the incorrectity''' (I.M.O.) [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 17:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**What does IMO mean? In my opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***Yeah. It does.
***Isn't the fact that we're voting imply that its your opinion? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
****Yeah. It does.
*Strong Bad's broken computer deleted the email. He just read "Deleted" along with it without noticing. I can't believe there are people who believe that Strong Bad deleted that email on purpose, even in a moment of weakness! '''Accept. Strongly.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I did check the [[sisters]] page before I put this fact on the do over page. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:08, 19 May 2005 (BST)
**Listen closely to the toon. "Undeleted! Undeleted! '''I didn't mean to do that!'''" And combined with the fact that it is referred to as a stnank as well in Do Over, gives 2 reasons For it being a mistake on SB's part, versus 1 ''possible'' reason for it to have been the Tandy going wrong. [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 19:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
***You're taking it WAY too literally, and as thus, you're ruining the joke. We have WRITTEN AT THE TOP OF THE SISTERS TRANSCRIPT that the computer deleted it itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
****Then what was Strong Bad's stnank? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*****Er, that he said he made the stnank in sisters? That was the point to the fact in the first place... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:19, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******So SB was and is still under the mistaken impression that he caused the DELETED!? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:27, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
******If the stnank was speaking along with the Tandy's screen and saying Deleted, why is the correction of the stnank him NOT deleting it, and nothing happening to it (in the form of saving/deleting/etc.)? If it wasn't, then SB would have still tried to save the email, and if the Tandy malfunctioning was the cause of deletion, it STILL would have been deleted! [[User:EDY-innit|EDY-innit]] 21:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*******EXACTLY!!! That's the whole point! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
* You guys are reading way too much into this. The point is that Strong Bad is trying to change the way the e-mails went, not to undo any mistakes that he's made (which is why he called them "stnanks").'''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]

*'''Decline.''' To quote, "Well, while I've never actually made a mistake, there have been a few, let's call 'em "stnanks," that could be worthy of a do-over." I.e., a 'stnank' isn't really a mistake--it's something that's worthy of a do-over. But even without this reason, humour is a dish best served in the absence of OCD nitpickers. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 14:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*Strong Bad didn't ever make a mistake, he made a stnank when the computer malfunctioned and delected his email. For reasons listed above, '''Decline''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 17:53, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' It's true, the stnank from [[sisters]] was the Tandy's fault, not Strong Bad's. And don't anybody start with that whole "Computers only do what you tell them to!" bull crap. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' He didn't mean to do it, and he didn't, he didn't even realise it was deleted at first. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' Strong Bad is pondering what would have happened if things had gone differently -- things that he himself was not necessarily responsible for. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Decline''' for exactly the same reason. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 06:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''What with the angry mothers, and the declining in the town square for all to see...''' - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:52, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===Tandy 400 Goofs (Accepted)===
When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
*'''Accept''' seems good to me. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 21:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Seconded.''' 'Tis true, voters, 'tis true. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] 1:25 AM EDT June 3 2005
*'''Accept''' - This has all the funness of the fact without the factness of the fun. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Acceptyness''' [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:52, 9 Jun 2005
*'''Yay, yummy acceptness!''' Why should this be STUFF'd? [[User:68.161.140.124|68.161.140.124]] 01:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:14, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==IMMEDIATE contesting of an Accepted fact==

I'm not letting this die until the fact does. I'm invoking the little-used but perfectly valid power to CONTEST a bad fact that got accepted anyway. I refer, of course, to the Family Guy non-reference, AKA "Change of Pace" (see above). There is no reason to believe that it's a reference that can't be chalked up to pure coincidence, and if the "fact" is true, then it doesn't mean that there was any "homage" - it means that TBC are plagiarists, and I'd prefer to think of them as being better than that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Although this sort of reminds me of Star Wars (so this is how democracy dies), I am with ya. But how would this work anyhow? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 11:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Good question. I'm not sure a Fun Fact has ever been seriously contested before. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:41, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Right on brudda! This is a stinky one! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:I propose creating a rebel group devoted to fighting this evil menace. Or you know just bitching about it for a while until they see it our way. Whichever works. -- [[User:69.39.99.20|69.39.99.20]] 21:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:: Whoever you are, as I've stated about a dozen times, this fact is equally as "valid" as many other facts that were tossed straight out the window with unanimous declines. If this had been about almost anything besides Family Guy, it probably would have been thrown out the window with them. I am only trying to keep this Wiki loaded with GOOD facts. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:59, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::Jay, I hate to be the pessimist in some respects, but I honestly don't think you will win this fight, no matter how nobel the cause. A lot of people like Family Guy so much that it blinds their ability to judge objectivly the validity of this so called fact. Of course, I'm right with you in fighting it, but all I'm saying is that it might not work out so well. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:09, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I say this with sincerity and in friendship: What, exactly, are you contesting? Do you want a recount? Okay, I see 16 accepts and 8 declines. Wasn't the process followed correctly? Everyone has had two full weeks to weigh in, and everybody got one vote. If you're just upset that the vote didn't go your way, then my friend, I am afraid I cannot help you. I must point out, however, that you're starting to sound like ''A Few Good Men'' ("Your honor, I object!" "Overruled!" "No, I ''strenuously'' object." "Oh, well, I guess I'd better reconsider.").<div style="text-indent: 2em">The vast majority of fun facts that are based on speculation get declined. Note that they don't get declined because they are necessarily incorrect; they simply do not have enough evidence to support them. (See [[Talk:dangeresque_3#Constantinople.3F_.28Declined.29|Constantinople]] for another example.) But just because you vote "decline" on something does not make it false. Short of TBC making some kind of announcement about this, there's ''no way'' you can be 100% sure that the accepts are wrong and the declines are right. As for me, I was ready to decline the fact, but I decided to watch the toon once more and see what I thought. After viewing it again, and ''considering the timing'', I decided that there was ''just enough'' there for it to be too coincidental to be a coincidence. (And, incidentally, my vote wasn't based on whether ''I'' like ''Family Guy'', but whether I thought TBC do.) I notice that you admit not having seen the episode in question. How, then, can you be so sure? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:45, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)</div>
::Dot com, I have seen the episode, and have been and still am a huge fan of Family Guy. The fact is that this being a reference means that TBC is ''stealing'' a joke. I just didnt consider TBC to be theives and to be original enough.
::Now, I agree. These arguments have been stated and restated millions of times. Saying them over and over again accomplishes nothing. All I am saying is that I think that this form of democracy is flawed. The majority of votes made were done so, IMHO, because the voter enjoys Family Guy. I agree that there is nothing that can be done. Democracy has spoken. I am just disapointed in the STUFF rules so that such a rediculous (again, in my opinion) "fact" can be accepted by such a large margin. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 00:03, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::I am not a strong supporter of this fact (see my vote way above), I just ''lean'' toward accepting it. And I see your point, but I don't think TBC would consider it stealing. Or if they did, they might not care. Here's how I see it playing out: "Hey, Matt, Peter's eating nickels... that's funny!" "Yeah, Mike, we should have Homestar do something like that. I'll put it in the scene that I'm working on ''right now''." (Emphasis mine.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I'm with Jay on this. I'ma email the Chappos; hopefully they'll answer. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 23:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::I think that's an excellent idea, FireBird. If I had my wish, I'd interview them about once a year and ask about all our little facts that we get so worked up over but they have probably forgotten all about. They'd probably laugh me right out of their office, or basement, or wherever. But then at least ''we'd'' sleep better at night. Actually, if I had my wish then Strong Bad would answer one of my emails. Or, better yet, someone would give me a million dollars bill. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:21, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::: You could try asking your computer to print one. Just make sure you say "[[couch patch|please]]". Okay, seriously. The arguments I have given before are the arguments I give now - if it's true, it makes plagiarists of TBC, and there's not enough evidence that we know it's true in the first place. I don't know if they'd ever even bother answering your question, but if they did, it would certainly clear up a lot — just don't count on it happening. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:20, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::Plagiarize!
::::Let no one else's work evade your eyes!
::::Remember why the good Lord made your eyes,
::::So don't shade your eyes,
::::But plagiarize, plagiarize, plagiarize-
::::Only be sure always to call it please "research". [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]

Did they even have enough time from the airing of the FG episode to put it in? I mean, they would've had to do it last minute if it was a reference. Besides, Family Guy is NOT the first to think of change jingle-jangling. -[[Special:Contributions/66.41.62.253|66.41.62.253]] 22:18, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:Please note that this discussion is almost four years old. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:20, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

== Hey ==

Any ideas why Homestar and The Cheat switched? Tell me.

:No clue. This idea would be better posed on the [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ Forum]. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:02, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== homestar saying "booooo" instead of "mooooo"?==
i always thought that he said booooo. i think he would say that because he is kind of booing strong bad for his "wrong" statement. I also thought that Strong Bad just interpreted it wrong. i could be wrong, i'm just making a statement.
- DDR_freak1
ugh i forgot my user name. at least that's what i THINK it was.
:I hear "moo". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:21, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

* ok, i just thought that it would make more sense if he said moo, but then again, homestar isn't really supposed to make sense in the first place, huh? :P

==Ben Franklin?==
I dunno about you, but when I listen to the first part of the this email, it reminds me strongly of Ben Franklin's Autobiography, in which he claims to have never made a mistake, but nonetheless has a few "errata" in his life. Thoughts? - Rowen

:That's an interesting theory, but I'm afraid it's too big a stretch to include in the article. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:06, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

== Moldy Bread ==

Moldy bread has been mentioned three times: [[Fortune Cookies]], [[do over]], and [[Thy Dungeonman II]]. This seems to be more than a coincidence — it's not a very common phrase. What/where's the best way/place to note this? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:02, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:How about [[Bread]]? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 20:25, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
::Good thinking — thanks for the reply. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:43, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:::You're welcome. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 20:46, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

== Phantom keyboard ==

I found a goof...or something.

When SB is redoing the Ali and Ali's sister email, he manages to hit the keyboard without actually typing anything for one split second before he types "No. No dying.". Anybody else notice this? -[[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 12:05, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

== Two-dimensional ==

:''While he is disguised as The Cheat, Homestar's shirt is solid yellow (with spots) while his legs and head are colored in scribbly yellow with visible white streaks, which implies that he is wearing a costume shirt but has colored his skin with a marker or paintbrush. However, he has a fringe of white not colored in all around his visible outline, which makes sense only if Homestar is genuinely two-dimensional, or if he has only colored the left side of his body (and about two-thirds of each foot).''
This seems too nitpicky for the article (after all, these characters ''are'' two-dimensional), but interesting nonetheless. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:37, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

== Matt's Motto ==

I really don't think Matt's "motto", "wah wah wah" is repeated by Homestar in [[Cool Things|Cool Things]]. He's just imitating a trombone. Seriouswy. [[User:Dementedc|Dementedc]] 19:22, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

== Crisps, A-Soy! ==

Crisps, A-Soy! seems like a reference/parody of [[Wikipedia:Chips Ahoy!|Chips Ahoy!]]--[[Special:Contributions/66.245.248.55|66.245.248.55]] 04:47, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
:Yep, as noted in [[do over#Real-World References|Real-World References]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:53, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

== Disputed fun fact ==

"In [[sisters]] Strong Bad's misfortune was due to a computer error, not any 'stnank' he may have made."

Strong Bad ''did'' say "deleted," which I think caused the computer to delete the email, meaning that it ''was'' a stnank. Am I correct on this? {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 22:17, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:Looking at the transcript, it seems he says "deleted" as the screen flashes the word, reading if off the computer. He says "deleted" because the email was deleted; not the other way around. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::I might have to be a real stickler on this and say that technically, Strong Bad starts saying "A-Deleted" at frame 280, and the screen starts its message on frame 283, but I don't think that matters at all, as it wouldn't make much sense for Strong Bad to just randomly say that... {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 04:49, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree with DorianGray's interpretation. I think that Strong Bad's saying "Deleted" (almost) simultaneously as it flashes on the screen is for comedic effect, and the fact that he starts to say it a split second before it appears is just the timing of the joke. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:42, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

==Unusual==

Isn't it unusual that TBC redid emails? [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 17:11, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

== Pikachu reference? ==

Is it just me, or does Homestar's second line sound like "Squeakachu" (or "Squeakaku" due to Homestar's accent) --[[Special:Contributions/203.160.119.126|203.160.119.126]] 23:55, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

It ''does'' sound like that, but I don't think it was on purpose.--[[User:Metaphoricallycrazy|[[User:Metaphoricallycrazy|M.C.]] | [[User talk:Metaphoricallycrazy|Talk]]]] 00:57, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

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 My Sbemail 
<blockquote class="lappy email" style="width:80%;font-family:Verdana,Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;font-weight:normal">
<div>subject: Sinking boat</div>

Dubadubadear Strongbad,
If you and the cheat, and bubs were on a sinking boat,
How would you save yourselves and get to dry land?

Sincerely,
Trevor
OH

</blockquote>

User:Metaphoricallycrazy

2009-07-03T22:30:16Z

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'''[[Haldo]], and welcome to me!'''
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 My Sbemail 
<blockquote class="lappy email" style="width:80%;font-family:Verdana,Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;font-weight:normal">
<div>subject: Sinking boat</div>

Dubadubadear Strongbad,
If you and the cheat, and bubs were on a sinking boat,
How would you save yourselves and get to dry land?

Sincerely,
Trevor
OH

</blockquote>

User:Metaphoricallycrazy

2009-07-03T22:03:25Z

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HRWiki:Sandbox

2009-07-03T19:03:56Z

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