Homestar Runner Wiki - User contributions [en]

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<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99AAFF|codebkgd=#FF3030 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Mike_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Mike Chapman|Mike]]''': the all-pwning animator of everybody's favourite webtoon!}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:sbemail.png|43px]]|msg=This user enjoys '''[[:Category:Compy 386 Emails|Compy-era]]''' emails the best and thinks the Lappy is [[Strong Bad's Technology|far too high-tech]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 9 - homsar.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Homsar]]''', as you've probably already figured out from their username.}} <br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#00FF00|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:qod 5 - coach z.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user has '''[[Spin 'n Say|more than two problems]]'''. In fact, this user has too many problems to count.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar-shirt.png|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_homsar_coffee|Homsar T-shirt]]''' and wears it as often as possible.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#3333CD|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar_shirt_logo_back.PNG|40px]]|msg=<span style="color:white">This user was '''<span style="color:white">raised by a cup of coffee</span>''' and proudly states that in their username.</span>}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF7F24 |codebkgd=#AA5303 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Don_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=May '''[[Don and Harriet Chapman|Don Chapman]]''' rest in peace.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FFFF00|codebkgd=#FFD700|codecolor=#000000|code=meh-3|msg=Meh meh meh meh meh meh '''meh''' meh meh '''[[cheat talk|meh meh''']].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99CCFF|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#ff0000|code=DVD|msg=This user owns '''all the H*R DVDs''' released so far.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#00CC99|codebkgd=#009966|codecolor=#66FFCC|code=HEHE|msg=This user is '''[[funny]]''', or at least thinks they are.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#006600|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Fallen Ben.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user wants to be a member of the '''[[Homestarmy]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FFFF99|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#000000|code=FIG|43px]]|msg=This user owns '''[[Store#Collectible Figurines|all the figurines]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000|codecolor=#C9C9C9|code=DMP|msg=This user is sad and depressing! '''[[A Folky Tale|Isn't that great?]]'''}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#7EC0EE|codebkgd=#000000|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:NewestHomestar.png|43px]]|msg=This user wonders '''[[Lack of Visible Arms|how Homestar can lift things without arms]]''', and has no idea how he does it. None.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FF0000|mainbkgd=#8B0000|codebkgd=#DC143C|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:stinkoman20X6normal.PNG|43px]]|msg=<span style="color:white">This user loves to play '''[[Stinkoman 20X6|<span style="color:white">Stinkoman 20X6</span>]]''', despite the fact they can't get past Level 1.1.</span>}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:Marshie43x43.png|43px]]|msg=This user has an irrational fear of <span class="plainlinks">'''[[Marshie]]'''</span>.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FAFAD2|codebkgd=#F0E68C|codecolor=#000000|code=UN|msg=This user lurks on '''Uncyclopedia''' as an IP address.}} <br /> {{userbox|border=#00008B|mainbkgd=#F5F5F5|codebkgd=#0000CD |codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=WP|msg=This user is also on Wikipedia as '''[[Wikipedia:User:Kariià|Kariià]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:sbemail1.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user's favorite email is '''[[for kids]]''', due to lots of Homsar.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:ipod_homestar.gif|43px]]|msg=This user would watch '''[[Strong Bad Email|Strong Bad Emails]]''' [[Podstar Runner|on their iPod]] if they actually ''had'' an iPod.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=H8VNDL|msg=This user ''hates vandals on any wiki'' and wishes that vandals would go die.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=UB|msg=This user would rather stick tons of '''[[HRWiki:Userbox|userboxes]]''' on their userpage instead of actually writing something on it.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#E0FFFF|codebkgd=#20B2AA|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=GO|msg=This user found the wiki from a '''[[Google:|Google]]''' search for Homestar Runner.}}<br /> |}</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee User:Raised by Coffee 2006-09-02T15:10:20Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99AAFF|codebkgd=#FF3030 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Mike_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Mike Chapman|Mike]]''': the all-pwning animator of everybody's favourite webtoon!}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:sbemail.png|43px]]|msg=This user enjoys '''[[:Category:Compy 386 Emails|Compy-era]]''' emails the best and thinks the Lappy is [[Strong Bad's Technology|far too high-tech]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 9 - homsar.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Homsar]]''', as you've probably already figured out from their username.}} <br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#00FF00|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:qod 5 - coach z.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user has '''[[Spin 'n Say|more than two problems]]'''. In fact, this user has too many problems to count.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar-shirt.png|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_homsar_coffee|Homsar T-shirt]]''' and wears it as often as possible.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#3333CD|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar_shirt_logo_back.PNG|40px]]|msg=<span style="color:white">This user was '''<span style="color:white">raised by a cup of coffee</span>''' and proudly states that in their username.</span>}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF7F24 |codebkgd=#AA5303 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Don_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=May '''[[Don and Harriet Chapman|Don Chapman]]''' rest in peace.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FFFF00|codebkgd=#FFD700|codecolor=#000000|code=meh-3|msg=Meh meh meh meh meh meh '''meh''' meh meh '''[[cheat talk|meh meh''']].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99CCFF|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#ff0000|code=DVD|msg=This user owns '''all the H*R DVDs''' released so far.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#00CC99|codebkgd=#009966|codecolor=#66FFCC|code=HEHE|msg=This user is '''[[funny]]''', or at least thinks they are.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#006600|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Fallen Ben.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user wants to be a member of the '''[[Homestarmy]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FFFF99|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#000000|code=FIG|43px]]|msg=This user owns '''[[Store#Collectible Figurines|all the figurines]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000|codecolor=#C9C9C9|code=DMP|msg=This user is sad and depressing! '''[[A Folky Tale|Isn't that great?]]'''}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#7EC0EE|codebkgd=#000000|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:NewestHomestar.png|43px]]|msg=This user wonders '''[[Lack of Visible Arms|how Homestar can lift things without arms]]''', and has no idea how he does it. None.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FF0000|mainbkgd=#8B0000|codebkgd=#DC143C|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:stinkoman20X6normal.PNG|43px]]|msg=<span style="color:white">This user loves to play '''[[Stinkoman 20X6|<span style="color:white">Stinkoman 20X6</span>]]''', despite the fact they can't get past Level 1.1.</span>}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:Marshie43x43.png|43px]]|msg=This user has an irrational fear of <span class="plainlinks">'''[[Marshie]]'''</span>.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FAFAD2|codebkgd=#F0E68C|codecolor=#000000|code=UN|msg=This user lurks on '''Uncyclopedia''' as an IP address.}} <br /> {{userbox|border=#00008B|mainbkgd=#F5F5F5|codebkgd=#0000CD |codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=WP|msg=This user is also on Wikipedia as '''[[Wikipedia:User:Kariià|Kariià]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:sbemail1.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user's favorite email is '''[[for kids]]''', due to lots of Homsar.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:ipod_homestar.gif|43px]]|msg=This user would watch '''[[Strong Bad Email|Strong Bad Emails]]''' [[Podstar Runner|on their iPod]] if they actually ''had'' an iPod.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=H8VNDL|msg=This user ''hates vandals on any wiki'' and wishes that vandals would go die.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=UB|msg=This user would rather stick tons of '''[[HRWiki:Userbox|userboxes]]''' on their userpage instead of actually writing something on it.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#E0FFFF|codebkgd=#20B2AA|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=GO|msg=This user found the wiki from a '''[[Google:|Google]]''' search for Homestar Runner.}}</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee User:Raised by Coffee 2006-09-02T15:08:55Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99AAFF|codebkgd=#FF3030 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Mike_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Mike Chapman|Mike]]''': the all-pwning animator of everybody's favourite webtoon!}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:sbemail.png|43px]]|msg=This user enjoys '''[[:Category:Compy 386 Emails|Compy-era]]''' emails the best and thinks the Lappy is [[Strong Bad's Technology|far too high-tech]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 9 - homsar.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Homsar]]''', as you've probably already figured out from their username.}} <br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#00FF00|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:qod 5 - coach z.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user has '''[[Spin 'n Say|more than two problems]]'''. In fact, this user has too many problems to count.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar-shirt.png|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_homsar_coffee|Homsar T-shirt]]''' and wears it as often as possible.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#3333CD|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar_shirt_logo_back.PNG|40px]]|msg=<span style="color:white">This user was '''<span style="color:white">raised by a cup of coffee</span>''' and proudly states that in their username.</span>}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF7F24 |codebkgd=#AA5303 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Don_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=May '''[[Don and Harriet Chapman|Don Chapman]]''' rest in peace.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FFFF00|codebkgd=#FFD700|codecolor=#000000|code=meh-3|msg=Meh meh meh meh meh meh '''meh''' meh meh '''[[cheat talk|meh meh'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99CCFF|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#ff0000|code=DVD|msg=This user owns '''all the H*R DVDs''' released so far.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#00CC99|codebkgd=#009966|codecolor=#66FFCC|code=HEHE|msg=This user is '''[[funny]]''', or at least thinks they are.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#006600|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Fallen Ben.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user wants to be a member of the '''[[Homestarmy]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FFFF99|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#000000|code=FIG|43px]]|msg=This user owns '''[[Store#Collectible Figurines|all the figurines]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000|codecolor=#C9C9C9|code=DMP|msg=This user is sad and depressing! '''[[A Folky Tale|Isn't that great?]]'''}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#7EC0EE|codebkgd=#000000|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:NewestHomestar.png|43px]]|msg=This user wonders '''[[Lack of Visible Arms|how Homestar can lift things without arms]]''', and has no idea how he does it. None.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FF0000|mainbkgd=#8B0000|codebkgd=#DC143C|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:stinkoman20X6normal.PNG|43px]]|msg=<span style="color:white">This user loves to play '''[[Stinkoman 20X6|<span style="color:white">Stinkoman 20X6</span>]]''', despite the fact they can't get past Level 1.1.</span>}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:Marshie43x43.png|43px]]|msg=This user has an irrational fear of <span class="plainlinks">'''[[Marshie]]'''</span>.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FAFAD2|codebkgd=#F0E68C|codecolor=#000000|code=UN|msg=This user lurks on '''Uncyclopedia''' as an IP address.}} <br /> {{userbox|border=#00008B|mainbkgd=#F5F5F5|codebkgd=#0000CD |codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=WP|msg=This user is also on Wikipedia as '''[[Wikipedia:User:Kariià|Kariià]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:sbemail1.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user's favorite email is '''[[for kids]]''', due to lots of Homsar.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:ipod_homestar.gif|43px]]|msg=This user would watch '''[[Strong Bad Email|Strong Bad Emails]]''' [[Podstar Runner|on their iPod]] if they actually ''had'' an iPod.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=H8VNDL|msg=This user ''hates vandals on any wiki'' and wishes that vandals would go die.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=UB|msg=This user would rather stick tons of '''[[HRWiki:Userbox|userboxes]]''' on their userpage instead of actually writing something on it.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#E0FFFF|codebkgd=#20B2AA|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=GO|msg=This user found the wiki from a '''[[Google:|Google]]''' search for Homestar Runner.}}</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee User:Raised by Coffee 2006-09-01T23:21:11Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99AAFF|codebkgd=#FF3030 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Mike_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Mike Chapman|Mike]]''': the all-pwning animator of everybody's favourite webtoon!}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:sbemail.png|43px]]|msg=This user enjoys '''[[:Category:Compy 386 Emails|Compy-era]]''' emails the best and thinks the Lappy is [[Strong Bad's Technology|far too high-tech]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 9 - homsar.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Homsar]]''', as you've probably already figured out from their username.}} <br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#00FF00|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:qod 5 - coach z.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user has '''[[Spin 'n Say|more than two problems]]'''. In fact, this user has too many problems to count.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar-shirt.png|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_homsar_coffee|Homsar T-shirt]]''' and wears it as often as possible.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#3333CD|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar_shirt_logo_back.PNG|40px]]|msg=<span style="color:white">This user was '''<span style="color:white">raised by a cup of coffee</span>''' and proudly states that in their username.</span>}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF7F24 |codebkgd=#AA5303 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Don_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=May '''[[Don and Harriet Chapman|Don Chapman]]''' rest in peace.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FFFF00|codebkgd=#FFD700|codecolor=#000000|code=MEH?|msg=This user wishes they could understand '''[[cheat talk|Cheat Talk]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99CCFF|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#ff0000|code=DVD|msg=This user owns '''all the H*R DVDs''' released so far.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#00CC99|codebkgd=#009966|codecolor=#66FFCC|code=HEHE|msg=This user is '''[[funny]]''', or at least thinks they are.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#006600|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Fallen Ben.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user wants to be a member of the '''[[Homestarmy]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FFFF99|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#000000|code=FIG|43px]]|msg=This user owns '''[[Store#Collectible Figurines|all the figurines]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000|codecolor=#C9C9C9|code=DMP|msg=This user is sad and depressing! '''[[A Folky Tale|Isn't that great?]]'''}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#7EC0EE|codebkgd=#000000|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:NewestHomestar.png|43px]]|msg=This user wonders '''[[Lack of Visible Arms|how Homestar can lift things without arms]]''', and has no idea how he does it. None.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FF0000|mainbkgd=#8B0000|codebkgd=#DC143C|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:stinkoman20X6normal.PNG|43px]]|msg=<span style="color:white">This user loves to play '''[[Stinkoman 20X6|<span style="color:white">Stinkoman 20X6</span>]]''', despite the fact they can't get past Level 1.1.</span>}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:Marshie43x43.png|43px]]|msg=This user has an irrational fear of <span class="plainlinks">'''[[Marshie]]'''</span>.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FAFAD2|codebkgd=#F0E68C|codecolor=#000000|code=UN|msg=This user lurks on '''Uncyclopedia''' as an IP address.}} <br /> {{userbox|border=#00008B|mainbkgd=#F5F5F5|codebkgd=#0000CD |codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=WP|msg=This user is also on Wikipedia as '''[[Wikipedia:User:Kariià|Kariià]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:sbemail1.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user's favorite email is '''[[for kids]]''', due to lots of Homsar.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:ipod_homestar.gif|43px]]|msg=This user would watch '''[[Strong Bad Email|Strong Bad Emails]]''' [[Podstar Runner|on their iPod]] if they actually ''had'' an iPod.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#FFCC00|codecolor=#663333|code=H8VNDL|msg=This user ''hates vandals on any wiki'' and wishes that vandals would go die.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#7CFC00|codebkgd=#32CD32|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=UB|msg=This user would rather stick tons of '''[[HRWiki:Userbox|userboxes]]''' on their userpage instead of actually writing something on it.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#008000|mainbkgd=#E0FFFF|codebkgd=#20B2AA|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=GO|msg=This user found the wiki from a '''[[Google:|Google]]''' search for Homestar Runner.}}</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee User:Raised by Coffee 2006-09-01T22:54:01Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99AAFF|codebkgd=#FF3030 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Mike_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Mike Chapman|Mike]]''': the all-pwning animator of everybody's favourite webtoon!}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:sbemail.png|43px]]|msg=This user enjoys '''[[:Category:Compy 386 Emails|Compy-era]]''' emails the best and thinks the Lappy is [[Strong Bad's Technology|far too high-tech]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 9 - homsar.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Homsar]]''', as you've probably already figured out from their username.}} <br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#00FF00|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:qod 5 - coach z.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user has '''[[Spin 'n Say|more than two problems]]'''. In fact, this user has too many problems to count.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar-shirt.png|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_homsar_coffee|Homsar T-shirt]]''' and wears it as often as possible.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#3333CD|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar_shirt_logo_back.PNG|40px]]|msg=<span style="color:white">This user was '''<span style="color:white">raised by a cup of coffee</span>''' and proudly states that in their username.</span>}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF7F24 |codebkgd=#AA5303 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Don_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=May '''[[Don and Harriet Chapman|Don Chapman]]''' rest in peace.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FFFF00|codebkgd=#FFD700|codecolor=#000000|code=MEH?|msg=This user wishes they could understand '''[[cheat talk|Cheat Talk]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99CCFF|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#ff0000|code=DVD|msg=This user owns '''all the H*R DVDs''' released so far.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#00CC99|codebkgd=#009966|codecolor=#66FFCC|code=HEHE|msg=This user is '''[[funny]]''', or at least thinks they are.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF9900|codebkgd=#006600|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Fallen Ben.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user wants to be a member of the '''[[Homestarmy]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FFFF99|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#000000|code=FIG|43px]]|msg=This user owns '''[[Store#Collectible Figurines|all the figurines]]'''.}}<br /> <br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000|codecolor=#C9C9C9|code=DMP|msg=This user is sad and depressing! '''[[A Folky Tale|Isn't that great?]]'''}}</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Raised_by_Coffee User talk:Raised by Coffee 2006-09-01T22:41:47Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div><div class=usermessage><p style="margin: 0.5em 0 0.5em;"><span style="font-variant: small-caps;"><br /> ==[[Weclome]]==<br /> __NOEDITSECTION__<br /> <font color=green>Welcome, {{PAGENAME}}, to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki!''' We truly are glad to have you as a member. If you ever need any help with ''anything'', feel free to ask anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|welcoming committee]]. We're always happy to help. You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]].</font><br /> <br /> <font color=red>Here are some tips to help get you started:<br /> * If you need general information, editing tips, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents|help]] page.<br /> * Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]].<br /> * Read up on the rules and guidelines for your [[HRWiki:User space|user page]] so you don't accidentely break any of them.<br /> * If you're not sure what you can do to help out, head over to our community portal, [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]]. There you'll find a variety of projects that will assist the Wiki.<br /> * If you're looking for more community interaction, check out our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum] and become a registered member.<br /> * Check out the [[HRFWiki:Main Page|Fanstuff wiki]]!<br /> * Above all, be sure to '''be bold''' with your editing and have fun!<br /> * If you want a sig (Example: --{{User:the thing/sig}}) ask [[User:The thing|Me]].<br /> <br /> </font><br /> <br /> <br /> <font color=blue>Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. After all, your user page belongs to you. I know that this Wiki can seem like a big and complicated place at first. Trust me, we all know what that's like! Anyway, I hope this information is helpful to you, and that you'll have a good experience contributing to our knowledge-base and our community.</font><br /> <br /> I mean what I say Really,<br /><br /> {{User:The thing/sig}}, and "[[HRWiki:Welcoming_committee|The Homestar Runner Wiki Welcoming Committee]]"</span></p></div><br /> <br /> Heh. Thanks for the welcome! I'm familiar with rules and such as I edit Wikipedia when I <del>have nothing better to do</del> want to contribute. :] I've been lurking around here for a couple days, so I decided to sign up. {{User:Raised by Coffee/sig}}<br /> <br /> <br /> == Using Show Preview ==<br /> Hello, and thanks for contributing to the HRWiki. I want to point out the Show Preview button. It's right next to the Save Page button when you edit. You should use it whenever you are making a lot of experimental edits, for example when you are trying to get formatting right. Using the Show Preview button is quicker and easier than saving and clicking "edit" again, and will keep [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]] and page histories from being flooded. Thanks. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:39, 1 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hehe, sorry. I always forget about that. Thanks for reminding me. {{User:Raised by Coffee/sig}} 22:41, 1 September 2006 (UTC)</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee User:Raised by Coffee 2006-09-01T22:40:38Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99AAFF|codebkgd=#FF3030 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Mike_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Mike Chapman|Mike]]''': the all-pwning animator of everybody's favourite webtoon!}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:sbemail.png|43px]]|msg=This user enjoys '''[[:Category:Compy 386 Emails|Compy-era]]''' emails the best and thinks the Lappy is [[Strong Bad's Technology|far too high-tech]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 9 - homsar.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Homsar]]''', as you've probably already figured out from their username.}} <br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#00FF00|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:qod 5 - coach z.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user has '''[[Spin 'n Say|more than two problems]]'''. In fact, this user has too many problems to count.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar-shirt.png|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_homsar_coffee|Homsar T-shirt]]''' and wears it as often as possible.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#3333CD|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar_shirt_logo_back.PNG|40px]]|msg=<span style="color:white">This user was '''<span style="color:white">raised by a cup of coffee</span>''' and proudly states that in their username.</span>}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF7F24 |codebkgd=#AA5303 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Don_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=May '''[[Don and Harriet Chapman|Don Chapman]]''' rest in peace.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FFFF00|codebkgd=#FFD700|codecolor=#000000|code=MEH?|msg=This user wishes they could understand '''[[cheat talk|Cheat Talk]]'''.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99CCFF|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=DVD|msg=This user owns '''all the H*R DVDs''' released so far.}}</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee User:Raised by Coffee 2006-09-01T22:37:11Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99AAFF|codebkgd=#FF3030 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Mike_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Mike Chapman|Mike]]''': the all-pwning animator of everybody's favourite webtoon!}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:sbemail.png|43px]]|msg=This user enjoys '''[[:Category:Compy 386 Emails|Compy-era]]''' emails the best and thinks the Lappy is [[Strong Bad's Technology|far too high-tech]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 9 - homsar.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Homsar]]''', as you've probably already figured out from their username.}} <br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#00FF00|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:qod 5 - coach z.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user has '''[[Spin 'n Say|more than two problems]]'''. In fact, this user has too many problems to count.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar-shirt.png|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_homsar_coffee|Homsar T-shirt]]''' and wears it as often as possible.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#3333CD|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar_shirt_logo_back.PNG|40px]]|msg=<span style="color:white">This user was '''<span style="color:white">raised by a cup of coffee</span>''' and proudly states that in their username.</span>}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF7F24 |codebkgd=#AA5303 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Don_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=May '''[[Don and Harriet Chapman|Don Chapman]]''' rest in peace.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#DAA520|mainbkgd=#FFFF00|codebkgd=#FFD700|codecolor=#000000|code=MEH?|msg=This user wishes they could understand '''[[cheat talk|Cheat Talk]]'''.}}</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee User:Raised by Coffee 2006-09-01T22:35:20Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99AAFF|codebkgd=#FF3030 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Mike_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Mike Chapman|Mike]]''': the all-pwning animator of everybody's favourite webtoon!}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:sbemail.png|43px]]|msg=This user enjoys '''[[:Category:Compy 386 Emails|Compy-era]]''' emails the best and thinks the Lappy is [[Strong Bad's Technology|far too high-tech]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 9 - homsar.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Homsar]]''', as you've probably already figured out from their username.}} <br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#00FF00|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:qod 5 - coach z.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user has '''[[Spin 'n Say|more than two problems]]'''. In fact, this user has too many problems to count.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar-shirt.png|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_homsar_coffee|Homsar T-shirt]]''' and wears it as often as possible.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#3333CD|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar_shirt_logo_back.PNG|40px]]|msg=<span style="color:white">This user was '''<span style="color:white">raised by a cup of coffee</span>''' and proudly states that in their username.</span>}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF7F24 |codebkgd=#AA5303 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Don_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=May '''[[Don and Harriet Chapman|Don Chapman]]''' rest in peace.}}</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee User:Raised by Coffee 2006-09-01T22:34:31Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99AAFF|codebkgd=#FF3030 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Mike_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Mike Chapman|Mike]]''': the all-pwning animator of everybody's favourite webtoon!}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:sbemail.png|43px]]|msg=This user enjoys '''[[:Category:Compy 386 Emails|Compy-era]]''' emails the best and thinks the Lappy is [[Strong Bad's Technology|far too high-tech]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 9 - homsar.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Homsar]]''', as you've probably already figured out from their username.}} <br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#00FF00|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:qod 5 - coach z.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user has '''[[Spin 'n Say|more than two problems]]'''. In fact, this user has too many problems to count.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar-shirt.png|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_homsar_coffee|Homsar T-shirt]]''' and wears it as often as possible.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#3333CD|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar_shirt_logo_back.PNG|40px]]|msg=<span style="color:white">This user was '''<span style="color:white">raised by a cup of coffee</span>''' and proudly states that in their username.</span>}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#FF7F24 |codebkgd=#AA5303 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Don_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=May '''[[Don and Harriet Chapman|Don Chapman]]''' rest in peace..}}</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee User:Raised by Coffee 2006-09-01T22:32:11Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99AAFF|codebkgd=#FF3030 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Mike_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Mike Chapman|Mike]]''': the all-pwning animator of everybody's favourite webtoon!}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:sbemail.png|43px]]|msg=This user enjoys '''[[:Category:Compy 386 Emails|Compy-era]]''' emails the best and thinks the Lappy is [[Strong Bad's Technology|far too high-tech]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 9 - homsar.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Homsar]]''', as you've probably already figured out from their username.}} <br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#00FF00|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:qod 5 - coach z.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user has '''[[Spin 'n Say|more than two problems]]'''. In fact, this user has too many problems to count.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar-shirt.png|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_homsar_coffee|Homsar T-shirt]]''' and wears it as often as possible.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#3333CD|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar_shirt_logo_back.PNG|40px]]|msg=<span style="color:white">This user was '''<span style="color:white">raised by a cup of coffee</span>''' and proudly states that in their username.</span>}}</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee User:Raised by Coffee 2006-09-01T22:31:40Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99AAFF|codebkgd=#FF3030 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Mike_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Mike Chapman|Mike]]''': the all-pwning animator of everybody's favourite webtoon!}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:sbemail.png|43px]]|msg=This user enjoys '''[[:Category:Compy 386 Emails|Compy-era]]''' emails the best and thinks the Lappy is [[Strong Bad's Technology|far too high-tech]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 9 - homsar.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Homsar]]''', as you've probably already figured out from their username.}} <br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#00FF00|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:qod 5 - coach z.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user has '''[[Spin 'n Say|more than two problems]]'''. In fact, this user has too many problems to count.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar-shirt.png|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_homsar_coffee|Homsar T-shirt]]''' and wears it as often as possible.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#3333CD|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar_shirt_logo_back.PNG|40px]]|msg=<span style="color:white">This user was '''[[interview|<span style="color:white">raised by a cup of coffee</span>''' and proudly states that in their username.</span>}}</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee User:Raised by Coffee 2006-09-01T22:27:25Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99AAFF|codebkgd=#FF3030 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Mike_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Mike Chapman|Mike]]''': the all-pwning animator of everybody's favourite webtoon!}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:sbemail.png|43px]]|msg=This user enjoys '''[[:Category:Compy 386 Emails|Compy-era]]''' emails the best and thinks the Lappy is [[Strong Bad's Technology|far too high-tech]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 9 - homsar.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Homsar]]''', as you've probably already figured out from their username.}} <br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#00FF00|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:qod 5 - coach z.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user has '''[[Spin 'n Say|more than two problems]]'''. In fact, this user has too many problems to count.}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#CCFFCC|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:homsar-shirt.png|43px]]|msg=This user owns a '''[[Store#tshirt_homsar_coffee|Homsar T-shirt]]''' and wears it as often as possible.}}</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee User:Raised by Coffee 2006-09-01T22:22:18Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99AAFF|codebkgd=#FF3030 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Mike_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Mike Chapman|Mike]]''': the all-pwning animator of everybody's favourite webtoon!}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:sbemail.png|43px]]|msg=This user enjoys '''[[:Category:Compy 386 Emails|Compy-era]]''' emails the best and thinks the Lappy is [[Strong Bad's Technology|far too high-tech]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 9 - homsar.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Homsar]]''', as you've probably already figured out from their username.}} <br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#00FF00|codebkgd=#FFFFFF|codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:qod 5 - coach z.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user has '''[[Spin 'n Say|more than two problems]]'''. In fact, this user has too many problems to count.}}</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee User:Raised by Coffee 2006-09-01T22:20:08Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99AAFF|codebkgd=#FF3030 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Mike_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Mike Chapman|Mike]]''': the all-pwning animator of everybody's favourite webtoon!}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:sbemail.png|43px]]|msg=This user enjoys '''[[:Category:Compy 386 Emails|Compy-era]]''' emails the best and thinks the Lappy is [[Strong Bad's Technology|far too high-tech]].}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#FFA500|mainbkgd=#FFCE7B|codebkgd=#FFA500|codecolor=#FFFFFF|code=[[Image:qod 9 - homsar.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user's favorite character is '''[[Homsar]]''', as you've probably already figured out from their username.}}</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee User:Raised by Coffee 2006-09-01T22:17:37Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99AAFF|codebkgd=#FF3030 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Mike_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Mike Chapman|Mike]]''': the all-pwning animator of everybody's favourite webtoon!}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:sbemail.png|43px]]|msg=This user enjoys '''[[:Category:Compy 386 Emails|Compy-era]]''' emails the best and thinks the Lappy is [[Strong Bad's Technology|far too high-tech]].}}</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee User:Raised by Coffee 2006-09-01T22:15:39Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99AAFF|codebkgd=#FF3030 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Mike_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Mike Chapman|Mike]]''': the all-pwning animator of everybody's favourite webtoon!}}</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee User:Raised by Coffee 2006-09-01T22:14:56Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div>{{userboxtop}}<br /> {{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#99AAFF|codebkgd=#FF3030 |codecolor=#000000|code=[[Image:Mike_closeup.png|40px]]|msg=This user's favorite Chapman is '''[[Mike Chapman|Mike]]: the all-pwning animator of everybody's favourite webtoon!'''.}}</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Type Type 2006-09-01T18:19:12Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:sbinterview logo.png|thumb|It's a type of an interview progrum]]<br /> '''Type''' is a word sometimes used to describe items in the Homestar Runner universe, such as a "Nighttime Driving Type Game". It is often used incorrectly.<br /> <br /> ==Appearances==<br /> * [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]]<br /> * [[Nighttime Driving Type Game]]<br /> * [[pizzaz]]&mdash;''[[Strong Bad-Type Interview Progrum]]''.<br /> * [[morning routine]]&mdash;[[Strong Bad's EGGS]] brand type [[Cereal|cereal]].<br /> * [[Teen Girl Squad]]&mdash;One of [[Cheerleader]]'s shirts on the menu reads "hott type".<br /> * [[kids' book]]&mdash;In the DVD commentary, [[Mike Chapman]] refers to the usual art style of the site as "Homestar Runner, Strong Bad type illustrations".<br /> * [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5]]&mdash;According to the [[Podstar Runner]] summary, the girls are on "Spring Type Break"; this same phrase is in the page title.<br /> * [[Cheat Commandos (toon)|Cheat Commandos]]&mdash;[[Foxface]] is described as "Lady Type!".<br /> * [[Puppet Time]]&mdash;[[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] borrows [[Strong Bad]]'s "squeegee-type-deal".<br /> * [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]&mdash;a "halloween-type cartoon".<br /> * [[car]]&mdash;In the DVD commentary, Mike describes ''[[Floppy Disk Container#ugh-lympics|Cave Man Ugh-lympics]]'' as an "Olympic-type game".<br /> * [[impression]]&mdash;According to [[Coach Z]], [[Strong Sad]] usually says "depressing-type stuff".<br /> * [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]&mdash;[[Cheerleader]] claims the other girls are just "regular type" wack.<br /> * [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]&mdash;At one point, [[So and So]] holds a book labelled "math types".<br /> * [[lady...ing]]&mdash;[[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] calls [[Marzipan]] his "ladytype".<br /> * [[secret recipes]]&mdash;[[Strong Bad]]'s recipe for Great Uncle Pawdabber's Pre-tend Ice Cream Showdown calls for "1 languagely challenged vaguely coach type person".<br /> * [[best thing]]&mdash;In the DVD commentary, Mike comments on [[Teeg Dougland]]'s "peach-colored-type pants".<br /> * [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]&mdash;One of the offers is to "Win a chance to have lunch with the [[The Worm|Worm-type character]]!"<br /> * [[Peasant's Quest]]&mdash;The [[Baby Lady & Her Baby|Baby Lady]]'s chair is "not bad for a brown-collar peasant-type".<br /> * [[Adventure Gamers Interview]]&mdash;[[Matt Chapman]] says to look for more "arcadey type games" in the future.<br /> * [[Run Devil Run Interview]]&mdash;Mike describes [[The Cheat]] as "kind of a leopard/gerbil/anvil type thing".<br /> * [[bottom 10]]&mdash;[[Fluffy Puff Bite-Size Nibblers]] are perfect for "newborn-type babies".<br /> * [[Store T-Shirts]]&mdash;The discontinued "Knock One Outta the Park!!!" shirt was a "Royal Blue baseball jersey-type T-shirt".<br /> * [[theme song]]-Strong Bad describes his 2nd intro as a "pop-ballad type intro"<br /> <br /> [[Category:Word running gags]]</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Swears Talk:Swears 2006-09-01T18:16:02Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: KF'nC</p> <hr /> <div>{| style="border: 1px solid #C0C090; background-color: #F8EABA; margin-bottom: 3px; width: auto; border-spacing: 3px; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto"<br /> |-<br /> |[[Image:Warning.png|30px|Offensive content]]<br /> |'''Warning''': This shouldn't surprise you, since the purpose of this talk page is to discuss an article about swears, but language that may be considered offensive by some readers follows. Only mature, professional handling of the subject matter will be allowed.<br /> |}<br /><br /> <br /> ==Delete?==<br /> <br /> <s>This information is only loosely related and really not that important.</s> &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:59, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Well, it has appeared quite a lot. I think it should stay. {{User:LePorello/sig}} 23:00, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::yeah. if it had only 2 or 3 apperances, I'd under stand, but it has 8+ references. That's why I created it. &mdash; [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]] 23:04, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::<s>No, it really doesn't have that many appearances, because none of these items are that similar, and a lot of them are just abbreviations and such.</s> &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:04, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Well, most of these are not cusses to most people, many are common everyday speech. AOnly a few, like the Commandoes, are really intentional uses of cussing for humor. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:07, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Everyday speech or not, it's still cussing. And only [[Commandos in the Classroom|CitC]] and [[no loafing]] only mention about cussing, the rest have references to cussing. &mdash; [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]] 23:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I agree with deletion. This just isn't an outstanding topic... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> :::::::I don't care for this page. Swears don't bother me, it's just that keeping track of specific words that characters say (''unless'' it's a running gag; which swearing isn't) just doesn't fly with me. I could be contradicting myself, though. Maybe there are some articles that I would like deleted given this reasoning. Or then again, maybe not. Totally don't want a list of characters who use superlatives... or prepositions... &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:58, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::I now think it's a worthy topic. TBC have stated that they don't put swearing on the site, ''except'' sometimes they do. This is notable. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:02, 2 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == If we're gonna keep this ==<br /> <br /> And now we're gonna censor this? We have a page where we can't even discuss the subject matter? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:06, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Another point for deletion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:07, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Agreed. If this page can't exist in an uncensored form on this wiki, then it doesn't belong at all. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:08, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::What's weird is that all the cuss words were censored except for "damn." Weird. &mdash; [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]] 23:13, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Roy, it had hope, but I hope you see it's flawed. We can't have a page with the f word and the a word, per our standards. And if they are censored properly it ruins this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Okay, "Maq," so we can't have a and f up there, but it's ruined if it's censored. Hmmmm... God, I don't want my page that I made the first draft of, one of my few major contributions, so I guess we'll just have to...sigh. I don't know. It's just hard to decide. I guess we have no choice to delete it, unless we bend the rules and leave a and f or ruin it and go ahead and censor it. [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]] (In a hurry so no time thingy thing.)<br /> ::::::This page ''is'' kind of interesting, but I would only support an uncensored version. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:27, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Com's right. This is data, and if it's on Homestar Runner, we can use it. &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:39, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> If we're gonna keep this, it should ''not'' be censored, but it should be limited to material found only on H*R.com (not the interviews (except for the relevant part in the introduction)). I have come to realize that this page has factual merit, given TBC's attitude expressed in the introduction. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:49, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Dot com, why'd you delete DorianGray's comment? That seems rude. &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:51, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::He didn't. He just moved it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:54, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::While I question the use of this article, I feel that censoring the profanities aren't needed. However, use of the word f*** was unneeded in the article. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 03:09, 2 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Title ==<br /> <br /> I'm not entirely sold on the utility of this page, but if we're going to have it could we at least give it a name that doesn't sound so juvenile ("Mom, Billy made a swear!")? My vote is for [[Profanity]]. Concerning the above discussion, I'm against censoring this page. The warning at the top is ample. <small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small> 23:56, 1 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :The reason I moved it is because TBC in interviews have consistently used the word "swears" ("But when we get our sketch comedy show, dude, there’s going to be so many swears!"), and even in things like [[cheat talk]]. Plus, it's kinda funny. BTW, I think they only called it "cussing" in [[Commandos in the Classroom]] so they could make the "cuss-mando" joke. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:01, 2 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> I still vote for keeping, uncensoring, and "Profanity". {{User:Salty/sig}} 00:03, 2 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :While I feel that this should be delorted, if we are going to keep this, I would rather that the title be Profanity instead of Swears. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:20, 2 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Meh, "Profanity" sounds so formal and stuffy. "Swears" fits the mood better, methinks. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:26, 2 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Yeah, you don't really hear teens today using Profanity. Actually, it's more of "cursing." We should make the title that. Cursing sounds better than swears and cussing, and ''way'' better than Profanity. &mdash; [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]]<br /> ::::Do you have something against the TBC term? If not, then we should leave the title like it is. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 16 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> Definitely. I'm up for moving it to that. &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:21, 2 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Well yeah, but profanity sounds more encyclopedic. &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:27, 2 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::But "swears" sounds more H*R. More examples: "Tomkins made a '''swear'''!", "Why I can even '''swear''' a cuss myself! A-hem. Diaper biscuits." &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:52, 2 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I see your point (and my bad for not noting the TBCism). Taking that into consideration, I'm fine with whatever everybody else decides. <small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small> 03:29, 2 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I agree. The title of this article is really embarrassing. [[User:Qduk|Qduk]] 16:38, 29 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Couldn't we just begin the article with "'''Profanity''', or '''Swears'''... I think that would be good. &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 12:34, 2 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::I think the current introduction (in which Matt says "swears" and is followed up with "swearing") is just fine. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:17, 2 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Okay&mdash;I just think that the actual word should come before what TBC calls it. &mdash; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:18, 2 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What about the place? ==<br /> <br /> Since words like "Hella, and Helluva" are considered swears, I added the one where old timey Strong Bad says "oh noes i've died and gone to hell". <br /> :Not to be Correction [[Dan]], but it's actually, '''Curses'''! iv'e died and gone to hell!" &mdash; [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]]<br /> :Actually, it's not really considered a swear if used to refer to the place. I think. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> ::I agree, used in the right context it shouldn't be considered a swear, except in the case of their using the context as an ''excuse'' to swear. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Dorian is right. The place is not a swear. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:38, 13 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Guess if we can't use the place, we might not be able to use [[Strong Sad|Strong Sad's]] curse in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]: "...if you get it wrong, you get eternal damnation..." &mdash; [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]]<br /> <br /> == Crap ==<br /> <br /> What is that doing on the list? I know crap is almost like "s---" but crap is not a curse word all that much.<br /> :Actually, it is. It's what's known in linguistics as a permissible expletive (or something along those lines). &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:44, 16 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Possible swearing in flashback ==<br /> <br /> :''[[flashback]]- After losing the ten-step footrace, The Homestar Runner responds by saying "WHAAAAT??!!?&,:;%${}". Random symbols usually mean censored swearing.''<br /> <br /> Disagree. I know that things like %^#$^@# are used to censor swears, but it's not being used for that in this case.<br /> <br /> Random symbols are used to censor words ''in'' the sentence. These symbols have been ''attatched'' to the ??!!?, with no space between them. This suggests that this is an exaggeration often used on the Internet of an overuse of exclamation points. I'm talking about things like !!!!!!!11111, !!!!!111!1!11one!!1, and !!!!!fortyfive!!11!1omgwtfbbq111. Using random characters after a long string of exclamation points and question marks is just a cousin to these.<br /> <br /> Secondly, you don't see a hint of Homestar opening his mouth to utter curses in the animation. There's no audio censorship either. Where is the swearing coming from?<br /> <br /> This is what I would consider acceptable to say that Homestar was swearing:<br /> *&,:;%${} WHAT??!!?<br /> *WHAT &,:;%${}??!!?<br /> *WHAT??!!? &nbsp;&,:;%${}!!<br /> *WHAT??!!? &nbsp;&,:;%${} (even though the final exclamation doesn't end in an exclamation point, I would accept it if there were a space in there.)<br /> <br /> What we are considering is none of the above. Again, the random symbols are ''attached'' to the ??!!?. It makes no sense to put censored swears there. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:54, 13 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :<s>Agree. (Args pending BazookaJoes args.)</s> Switching to neutral for now. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:56, 13 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I agree, not to disagree. I always took it like that. I mean, I think it should stay. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:31, 13 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Agreed... Err, with the disagreement... By which I mean I disagree with the fact. It's obviously a relative of "T3H 1337 Sp33Kx0rz!!~!~@~!!#~!!1!!11@`2!eleventyfive!". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:12, 13 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Agree with BazookaJoe. Disagree with the fact. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:35, 13 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::don't know if my input matters, but i agree with the fact. --{{User:Collin/sig}} 01:44, 15 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Yearbook signing- rhts ==<br /> <br /> In the [[Yearbook Character Page]] on the autograph signing part, strong bad says RHTS meaning "raise hell this summer" and since lmao is mentioned, does anyone else think this may have a place on the page?--{{User:Collin/sig}} 02:30, 15 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> It could be raise ''heck'' this Summer.<br /> <br /> == To do ==<br /> <br /> Organize the list in chronological order and by toon category (SBEmails separate from toons and games). {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:50, 27 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == sbemail: the bird ==<br /> <br /> how about the sbemail "the bird" its all about giving the finger... which isnt really SAYING a swear. but it definatly is considered profanity and gets blurred out on TV. and it would go against TBC thing of keeping the site clean.<br /> [[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 20:15, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Sounds good. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Hmmm, I'm not sure on this one. It's a bit of a gray area. The email itself is about giving the finger, but Strong Bad never specifically mentions "the middle finger," so he's not giving kids any instruction on how to "give somebody the finger," and none of the characters in said email actually did it properly: Strong Bad can't do it because of his boxing gloves (even if he says he can), Homestar can't do it properly given his lack of (or at least invisible) hands, and Pom Pom only has one "finger" (his entire hand)... there's really no objectionable content in the email at all, save for the reference to "the finger" or "the bird," and I don't think, taken alone, such a reference constitutes anything objectionable. ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 04:01, 13 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pervert? ==<br /> <br /> Is this considered a swear? Or is it just a rude thing to say? It was said by The Baby Lady in Peasan't Quest if you ask her about Naked Ned. ''[[User:Maggot Man|<font color="Blue">Maggot Man</font>]] ''([[User talk:Maggot Man|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 19:20, 3 June 2006 (UTC)''<br /> :Yeah, pervert's not really a swear... Just an insult, I think. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> ::Well, it's a bad word kind of like Prick. --{{User:the thing/sig}} 19:39, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I would disagree with you, The thing. It's a word with a cache, but not a "bad" word in the same category as your other example, which in some contexts is a "bad" word, as it names an unmentionable piece of anatomy. "Pervert" merely describes a person with socially unacceptable sexual principles and behaviors. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:41, 3 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == autobiography ==<br /> <br /> *I've noticed that there isn't a mention of [[autobiography]] on this page. Strong Bad doesn't actually say a swear word on the "Words I Probably Said" tape, but it is implied, as Strong Bad does have to fast-forward. Is it worth adding that to this page? [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 09:26, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Are you refering to the "the Deke accidentally shoved me to the ground and called me a—" part? If so, I don't think we could really guess what he called him. He might as well said "a crap for brains" which is already covered under [[Crap]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:57, 10 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Do we really have to mention "butt"? ==<br /> <br /> I hardly consider "butt" a swearword. I mean, 5-year-olds say "butt." I think we're only supporting the ridiculous existance of the [[Wikipedia:Euphemism_treadmill#The_.22euphemism_treadmill.22|euphemism treadmill]] here by mentioning a relatively non-offensive word in an article about swearwords. ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 03:55, 13 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Where do we say "butt"? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> ::Under See Also:. ''In addition to the above, the words "crap" and "butt" both appear frequently.'' ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 04:03, 13 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Ah... Personally, I don't see a need to mention either of those, but I'm okay with keeping "crap" on there, as it has a (pretty massive) page. "Butt", on the other hand, is so minor a word it doesn't even need to be mentioned. You'd have to be some kinda freak to be offended by "butt". (No offense to anyone who is. You're still weird, though.) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> ::::Dorian, thanks ''so'' much for calling my grandmother a freak. My grandmother happens to be a very nice old lady. (This is a joke, I'm not really ticked off. ;-) ) But just so you know, I've observed that it is a bit of a generation thing: the older people are more likely to be offended by "butt" (and likewise with "crap" and "freaking"). That's my two cents. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:15, 13 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Not to mention that "butt" can be used in many different ways (the original meaning was "end"):<br /> :::::*End/edge butt (something I learned in Tech Ed.)<br /> :::::*Cigarrette butt<br /> :::::*Rifle butt<br /> :::::*Etc.<br /> :::::Anyways, we shouldn't mention "butt". ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 12:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Even though it is considered a bona fide swear at my aunt and uncle's house, I don't think it belongs on this page. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:20, 13 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Heh. My grandparents have no problem with "butt." In fact, I've heard my grandmother use said word on many occasions. I honestly can't see how anyone would consider "butt" a swearword. It's just a synonym for "rear end," after all. And of course, you have things like [[Wikipedia:Butt joint|butt joints]], etc. ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 01:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == "Sucks"? ==<br /> <br /> I'm not sure what others' thoughts are on this, but I generally consider "sucks" a vulgar word; I'm not offended by it, but I was surprised by its presence in a couple places on the site, probably on roughly the same level as "hella." Should it also be mentioned? {{unsigned|LuigiHann|20:40, 19 July 2006 (UTC)}}<br /> :I wouldn't consider it vulgar enough to be listed here or considered a swear. {{User:Salty/sig}} 20:51, 19 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Interestingly, the phrase used to be considered ''extremely'' vulgar, but over the years it has progressed on the [[Wikipedia:Dysphemism#The "dysphemism treadmill"|dysphemism treadmill]] to the point that it is acceptable even in mainstream contexts. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:46, 19 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==alternate universe==<br /> <br /> Shouldn't we add the part where Strong bad says "flippin' off rainbows" from sbemail 150? (it's in the song) {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 02:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Where's the swear? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:47, 27 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::If [[the bird]] is in this list, [[alternate universe]] should be too. Or they can both be removed; it's fine with me. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I suppose it falls into the "implied" category. Sigh... (you can guess I'm not fond of it, but it is acceptable for the page). {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::So... want me to add it?<br /> <br /> == Do you think it's better without Swearing except for Crap? ==<br /> <br /> I do, because i sick of cartoons that ''aren't'' cartoons, if you get my meaning?<br /> Well? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 02:14, 30 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I don't think I get your meaning. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:13, 30 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> well, what i'm trying to say is that cartoons are meant to be enjoyable for any age, not to filled with swearing,gore, etc. That's what i think.<br /> [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 23:02, 30 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Well, I agree that a large part of the charm of H*R is that it's funny without resorting to typical devices other animated entertainments rely on for shock laughs, such as potty language and excessive violent imagery. That said, I don't necessarily feel that a cartoon (for example, South park) which does employ potty language and extreme violence in its humor is less good, just different. In other words, I see it less as an issue of quality an an issue of broadest audience. So it's not "better", but it's quite an accomplishment that the 12 year olds and the old geezers like me alike can enjoy this and not be subjected to imagery or dialogue which might be seen as inappropriate. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:07, 30 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I think it's better because it's much easier to be "funny" with swearing. The fact that H*R can be at times, hillarious without vulgarity... to the extent of swearing or cursing... proves that TBC are very intelligent.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:09, 30 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::But that logic would suggest that Trey Parker and Matt Stone are not as intelligent, when in fact it's pretty clear from their work they're geniuses (as are TBC). They use a different set of rules and tools than TBC, so it's different, but does it necessarily mean TBC are more intelligent than TP+MS? It's like comparing apples and chainsaws, their approaches differ too vastly to effectively compare. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:12, 30 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I prefer this way of doing things, the without swearing way, because all it does is enable people of younger ages to enjoy the content. {{User:Salty/sig}} 23:20, 30 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> This talk page is about the upkeep of the wiki article. May I recommend our companion <span class="plainlinks">[http://forum.hrwiki.org/ forum]</span> for discussion of the subject itself. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:27, 30 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :While you are of course correct, I can also see an argument for exploring the utility of swears in animation as essential to the understanding of why both this page and its contents exist. Are the swears and swear-like items we document here to be seen as a deviation from the standards we've come to expect from TBC? Are they intentional references to the tradition in modern animation of employing naughty words for comic effect? Are they not references at all, but ''instances'' of the use of naughty words for comic effect? Yes, a generic discussion of whether SP or H*R is better because of the extent of the use of swearing is Forum fodder, but other points are, IMO, germane to the upkeep of this page. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:57, 30 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I feel like I oughtn't, but since Qermaq opened the discussion loophole again briefly, I'll jump in. I hesitate at the first question there, Qermaq, which hints at the perennial has-H*R-jumped-the-shark questions that come up often and are almost always unanswerable and unnecessary. One interesting thing you hint at, though, is that the significance of this page is not the way they ''don't'' swear, but the way they represent, replace, or suggest swears. Which suggests questions of the history of doing so in other cartoon genres, like [[old comics|comic strips]]. Which gets back to Nik's starting supposition: although technically what defines a cartoon is that it's animated instead of filmed, you identify an assumption that they're intended for, or at least suitable [[for kids|for, kids]]. (And the previous two links could be taken as H*R weighing in with meta-commentary on its own role in these dynamics.) Which of course leads to the question of ''why'' we connect cartoons with kids&mdash;what about their origins, political cartoons, etc.&mdash;by which point it's ''definitely'' ready for the forum. &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Space Program==<br /> <br /> In [[space program]], Strong Bad says "we spent all our money on this ''kick awesome'' logo". This could be a reference to kick ass, but, it's another one of those that might not really be nessicary to include. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 00:50, 2 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Fo' Shizzle?==<br /> <br /> <blockquote>...Another one reads, "SB is the shizzle", which in this context means "Strong Bad is the shit".</blockquote><br /> <br /> I think that one's being read a bit too much into. We can't be sure of his context, he may have just thought "shizzle" is a funny word, and didn't realize it is sometimes attributed to profanity. In fact, Wikipedia gives the meaning of shizzle as "...rap slang word for 'sure'", which is also the general meaning that I have understood in the past. Though the context of "Strong Bad is the sure" admittedly does not make sense, it seems to me that this comment is simply an abstract comment of "Strong Bad is the shizzle" without the "meaning" of shizzle being obviously clear, if there in fact is one. In short, I think we're reading much too much into a word that doesn't have a specific meaning. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:47, 14 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :See [http://izzle.urbanup.com/625718 izzle.urbanup.com/625718]. "Fo' shizzle" means "for sure", but any other use of "shizzle" means "shit". In this case "SB is the shizzle" makes sense, as calling someone "the shit" is an (admittedly weird) way of saying that they're good or cool. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:59, 14 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I understand where you're coming from, but my problem with it is other quotes such as "[[Parsnips A Plenty#Easter Eggs|Curses! I've gone to Hell! How unfortunate!]]". In this context, that would mean "Curses! I've been damned! How unfortunate!". However since they didn't choose to use the swear word, it doesn't constitute a swear word any more than "freaking" or "dang". {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:54, 14 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I disagree. I think they meant it. Even if they didn't, though, it's still notable that that's what it ''can'' mean. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:04, 14 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == TBC/Others Swearing? ==<br /> <br /> Should this article cover TBC and other people connected to H*R swearing? TBC swore in a couple of interviews, and the end of [[Ballad of the Sneak#Commentary Transcript|the BOTS commentary]] is vulgar. Suggestions? ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 01:03, 18 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I personally don't think so. This article is about swearing and references to swearing on H*R.com. It's really not notable that they swear in real life, as (given their humor) they don't seem like the kind of people who wouldn't. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:25, 18 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Yes, but we should include swears in commentaries. Those are still part of the H*R universe, even though they are somewhat removed.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:55, 18 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Part of the H*R body of work, perhaps, but not part of the H*R universe. ;) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:28, 18 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::You're right. They sometimes cross over though, when one of the characters suddenly joins in ;-) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:35, 18 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Is "pissed off" a swear? I don't think so. It might be less than Grandma-and-Grandpa's-house etiquette, but that's not what defines a swear. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:10, 18 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::It's listed as vulgar slang in most dictionaries. I don't know whether that actually answers your question. I would tend to think that it ''is'' a mild swear, given that it is censored on TV (more so in the past) and has a permissable form ("ticked off"). &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:28, 18 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::According to m-w.com, a swearword is vulgar or profane. Vulgarity is essentially lower-class speech (which is relative to your class); profanity is language that insults one's belief of what's right and wrong in the world (which is relative to your beliefs). BTW, "pissed off" is condidered "sometimes vulgar" by m-w. Of course, dictionaries merely chronicle usage, and as such should not be seen as prescriptive, so multiple sources should be consulted. It remains that "pissed off"'s swear-ness may or may not have a concensus among lexicographers. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:52, 18 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::"Pissed off" comes from the root "piss", which is unacceptable in any circumstance (at least for me). ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 03:02, 18 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == [[trevor the vampire]] ==<br /> <br /> Alright. I hate to challange one of the most-used examples of profanity on H*R.com, but why do you guys automatically assume that Strong Bad was going to say "what the f**k"? He could have just as well said "what the freak", which would be covered under [[Freakin']]. Peoples? ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 18:21, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I posed the same question long ago, either in talk someplace or in a edit summary. The response I got was that "freak" didn't make any sense. Wish I could find that conversation. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:27, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::<s>Wikipedia's entry on "[[Wikipedia:WTF|WTF]]" says that "freak" is just as likely. Hmmm... ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 18:31, 28 August 2006 (UTC)</s><br /> :::Wait... nevermind. But it is still just as likely. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 18:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Nothing else makes as much sense as F*** (unless, maybe, it's some odd-spelling variant, like what my friends use. Fark, fawk, fook, and so forth). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> :::::In ''your'' opinion. Look at how many times Strong Bad has used the word "[[Freakin'|freakin']]". Does the situation here merit that he would say "f**k"? ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 18:46, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Mu, first off, of course it's his opinion, this is a talk page. Second, while he has said "freak" a lot, he has never said it after "What the". What the crap, just plain what the, but never "What the freak". So "freak"'s suddenly no likelier than any other f word, after all. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:52, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == KF'nC ==<br /> <br /> I personally think that the KF'nC basket should be listed here, but I wanted to get other people's opinions first.<br /> <br /> I think it's quite likely that the "f'n" stands for f***in'. After all, if it was KFreakinC or KFrigginC, TBC would most likely just call it KFreakinC... {{User:Raised by Coffee/sig}} 18:16, 1 September 2006 (UTC)</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Strongest_Man_in_the_World Talk:Strongest Man in the World 2006-08-24T16:03:47Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: /* I still alive? */</p> <hr /> <div>== 10 years! ==<br /> <br /> Nice toon. I added this to the filmography of mr. bland and señor's charecter pages. I'm glad they re-did the old book. and there is another thing that I saw, when señor gets crushed, it says "sbloncheked" or what ever sb's candy bar was.<br /> [[User:Cessna Man!|Cessna Man!]] 23:43, 21 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I really liked this toon. It really captures the series' appeal. Who's doing the transcript for this, by the way? I hope they get done soon. We should put up pictures of Senor, Mr. Bland, etc.'s new forms on their pages. And also, Senor's voice doesn't sound like Matt's; think it could've been done by someone else?-[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 00:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I'm almost certain that Mr. Bland was voiced by Mike. Anyone know for sure? --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 01:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Plain ol' Matt's voice. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I added all the pictures, so that's done. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Not on main page? ==<br /> <br /> Does anyone else not see this on the Main Pages? Should this be included as a Fun Fact of some kind?<br /> :I see it there. Maybe clear your cache? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Introduction ==<br /> <br /> The intro says that Homestar enters the contest yet again. This seems a little misleading, as the toon is a modernization, not a sequel, as the intro could imply.<br /> <br /> :Looks like that's been changed {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Everybody Loves The Homestar Runner ==<br /> <br /> doesnt he say "Everybody loves THE me" not "loves a'me"? that would make more sense to me. --([[User:Superplough|superplough]] not logged in) [[User:132.181.7.1|132.181.7.1]] 02:01, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :He does say "the me." You can go ahead and change that. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:06, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I hear a'me. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 02:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::It's a joke. The original book says "The Homestar Runner" rather than just "Homestar Runner" so he says "the me" rather than "me". {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:05, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Mega Man Introductions? ==<br /> <br /> I think that Mr. Bland, Señor, and The Robot's introductions may be references to games from the [[Wikipedia:Mega_Man_(series)|Mega Man series]], in which the bosses are introduced with a snazzy background, a pose, and a sound effect before you begin their levels. Or, is this a more general reference? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:07, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The opening to The New Leave it to Beaver Show introduced the cast in a similar fashion if I remember correctly. Can't find any substantiating images though. Does it have to be a reference? Maybe it's just a visually interesting way to introduce characters. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 02:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Slo-Mo Action That is The Matrix, Super Mario Strikers and Final Fantasy In One==<br /> <br /> Currently, the article page says that Homestar's slo-mo kicking of The Cheat is a reference to Super Mario Strikers. I think that it's actually a reference to The Matrix.<br /> <br /> Hmmm... I dont think its necessarily a Matrix reference...its just in slow motion. the camera doesnt rotate around Homestar like the famous "bullet time" effect usually does. To me it just looks like a bicycle kick. <br /> - [[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 02:49, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah, you're probably right. But I don't think TBC would make a reference to Super Mario Strikers. {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 03:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> TBC have mentioned in an Interview (can't remember which one) that they are fans of Nintendo games, it is possible that they would reference Super Mario Striker, In SMS if a player passes the ball to a teammate in front of the Goal and the recieving teammate holds down the shoot button, the game will go into slow motion and the reciving teammate will do one of many different styles of Kicks,The most popular one Being the exact same move that Homestar did on Teh C. Also regarding the fact that it may be actually a reference to The Matrix, I recall no such move being used in any of the Matrix movies, [[User:Dctcool|Dctcool]]<br /> <br /> It actually reminded me most of Shaolin Soccer... but that could be because I just watched it today.<br /> :It reminds me of a lot of martial arts movies, but not one in particular that springs to mind.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Does anyone have a video of that specific kick from Super Mario Strikers? {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 14:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::: I found a video on Youtube of Super Mario Strikers which features the move in question [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc0xihGkfuw / SMS video review] The move happen at around the 1:10 mark<br /> <br /> I recently removed these RWRs from the page:<br /> <br /> *Homestar's slow-motion move (a Pele kick) seems similar to a "Slo-mo Cross Shot" from [[Wikipedia:Super_Mario_Strikers|Super Mario Strikers]].<br /> **It could also be a reference to the "Bullet Time" sequences in [[Wikipedia:The_Matrix|The Matrix]].<br /> ***Another possibility is they modeled it after the Sphere Shot in [[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy X|Final Fantasy X]].<br /> <br /> This seems to me to be the very definition of TTATOT. I'd be glad to entertain discussion to help settle what Homestar's move ''actually'' refers to; however, I kind of suspect it's actually just a generic fighting move and not a reference at all. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Heh, I agree. But now that you mention the Sphere Shot...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 04:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I propose that it is a reference to Shaolin Soccer. Though, actually, like many of the most reasonable people here, I doubt it's a direct reference to -anything-. Still, that kind of manuever is done at least once, if not a few times in Shaolin Soccer, in slo-mo and everything.<br /> <br /> It's possible that it references all 3 franchises (except the Matrix as there is no such move in any Matrix movies)<br /> <br /> ::I don't think it references a single thing. Homestar kicks the cheat around like a soccer ball with generic moves and does an out of the ordinary extra kick in slow motion to emphasize it. It might be inspired by such things but not directly referencing Shaolin Soccer, Matrix or Super Mario Strikers. The ONLY WAY it could be a reference, directly, to any of those is if the moves Homestar is doing are pretty much exactly done like those in the particular move in the game or movie. --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm not saying it's a referance, but is it just me, or is Homestar's flip when kicking the Cheat very similar to one of Tidus's blitzball kicks in Final Fantasy X? -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 01:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> : There are other things it's similar to as well, though - we removed it as a TTATOT fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:37, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> [[Wikipedia:Image:Grabbed Frame 18.jpg|Here's a picture of the FFX kick in question.]] ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 21:38, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'd seriously go with SMS, as the Blitzball kick seems to have a much greater range of motion, not to mention that TBC would be more inclined to reference the Nintendo game. Remember: Just because there's a possibility for TTATOT doesn't mean that it always is. This fact falls under that category; it most definitely is a reference to SOMETHING. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 21:43, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: Yeah. It's a reference to a [[Wikipedia:Bicycle kick|Bicycle kick]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:47, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::And the slow motion? <small>(Super Mario Strikers is a soccer game... >_>)</small> ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 22:01, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::: Just to make it more dramatic (and so what? If it's a real move in soccer, and the game allows characters to perform the move, then how is that anything other than normal?) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:05, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==I still alive?==<br /> I think Senor says "I see the light!" Instead of "I still alive"! I see the light is much funnier. The Chaps would go for I See The Light!-Me<br /> : I hear "I still alive," funny or not. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:48, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I originally thought it was "i see the light", but i think "I still alive" makes more sense with the way he waves his hand up through the grapes. And his bad grammar does fit with hes dialect. -[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 02:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> : I was just about to add a discussion on this line. I hear, "I ''feel'' alive!" His accent is a little hard to decipher, so I don't see this ending well. Prepare for weeks of arguing...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::FWIW, the first time I heard it I heard "I steel alive!" and it was hilarious. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I heard "I steel alive" [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 03:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> [[Media:Alive.ogg|The first quote in question]]--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 03:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I heard "I see de light!" {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 03:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::It is clearly "I steel alive" {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> After watching it a few timew I thought that it was I see de light [[User:Smallowman|Smallowman]] 04:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I hear "I still alive!", too.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:56, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::"I still alive!" &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:15, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::"I still alive!" - {{User:Kookykman/sig}} 23:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::He's still alive; I hear "I still alive" - {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 16:40 23 August 2006<br /> :::::::::: I hear "I feel alive!". If it is actually "I feel alive", might it be a reference to "I FEEL ASLEEP"? :/ {{User:Raised by Coffee/sig}} 23:44, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> It sounds like "I feel alive" to me, but I think it's just his accent so I think "I still alive". {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:31, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Ah well. Let us hope that the [[The Brothers Chaps|Almighty Ones]] shall hear our cry and bestow upon us a [[QotW]]... {{User:Raised by Coffee/sig}} 16:03, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == All right, you crap-for-brains ==<br /> <br /> What is it that the Grape Fairie is saying in his first line. I can't tell what it is, but it doesn't sound anything like "stupid" to me. Thoughts? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:55, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :My first guess is "sorry brains", but I'm not sure enough to change the transcript.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:59, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Perhaps "slowest brains"? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: ive just listeend to it a bunch of times and im pretty sure its just one syllable. kinda sounds like "All right you slows brains". Im not really hearing the 2 sylables of slowest and not the "ee" sound of sorry. But yea definatly not "stupid brains" -[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 03:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> [[Media:Listenup.ogg|The second quote in question]]--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 03:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::sounds like: " i'm ready, so you'se brains listen up smart " possibly calling them brains in conjunction with listen up smart. {{User:Csours/sig}} 03:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Do you have headphones or speakers, Csours? I'm curious. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Ohhh yeah, "slows brains" kind of works! I was looking for something that rhymes/sounds like "stoes brains," and I think that's it. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::speakers. i know headphones are better, i just havent got any yet. also i put it on loop on my sound editor and listened to it like 100 times.{{User:Csours/sig}} 14:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> How about 'doze brains'?<br /> <br /> :It sounds like "booze brains" to me, but, not likely. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 22:37, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Unplugged? ==<br /> <br /> The first fun fact credits the show MTV Unplugged with the creation of the term unplugged. I think (and am researching) that the term predates the show. [[User:Mila|Mila]] 03:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :"Unplugged" dates back to the beginnings of elictricity. But as a description of music played without extra amplification, MTV gets the credit. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The unplugged fact is credited both to MTV and Eric Clapton in different sections, which is kind of contradicting itself. One or the other should be taken out.<br /> ===Teh Proof===<br /> Quotes from the Oxford English dictionary:<br /> *New York Times, 21 April 1957<br /> *:The return of the unplugged guitar gets another boost from George Van Eps, who was supplying rhythmic chords to jazz groups long before voltage came into fashion.<br /> *Washington Post, 26 December 1986<br /> *:Nils Lofgren unplugged is still Nils Lofgren the musician... Lofgren will give a rare acoustic concert at the Bayou tomorrow.<br /> *Toronto Star, 6 October 1989<br /> *:The simple, six-string folk rhythms of several songs here..owe some of their sincere appeal to the unplugged colors of Tracy Chapman's music.<br /> MTV Unplugged first aired on 26 November, 1989. Lexicography saves the day again! --[[User:60.228.144.21|60.228.144.21]] 08:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Nice catch... I've reworded the fact to say that MTV popularised it, but didn't coin it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==hacky sack vs footbag==<br /> <br /> in the transcript, it says that homestar kicks the cheat around like a hacky sack. this is a brand name. footbag is the generic term.{{User:Csours/sig}} 03:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> : I never play with hackysacks or footbags, but I don't know anyone who would know what you mean if you say footbag [[User:Inverse Tiger|Inverse Tiger]] 04:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I've never heard the word "footbag", either. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Ditto--I've heard them called hacky sacks for 20 years (or thereabouts), but I've never heard footbags. It may be a brand name, but it's pretty much been adopted as a generic term (like with Levis or Kleenex).--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I've never heard of a footbag ''or'' a hacky sack. Does that mean I'm stupid? [[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 12:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::I've never heard Levis used as a generic term... --[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 15:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Actually, the way he kicks it also looks like the way you can bounce a ball in soccer.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Page Title ==<br /> <br /> Is "The Homestar Runner Enters the Longest Page Title on the Website Contest!" actually the longest page title on the website? [[User:!!|!!]]<br /> <br /> : [[User talk:William | Shall we find out?]] [[User:William|William]] 04:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I did my own search by looking up "Page title" on the wiki's search bar and looking through each selection. Turns out this toon doesn't win. See the fun facts for the true winner. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 05:30, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wretched Simmons Outfit ==<br /> <br /> Homestar's spandex workout uniform is from the Lady Fan E-mail.<br /> :Yep, that's already mentioned there. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> == Enough with the golbol! ==<br /> <br /> Alright already! I see that it's captioned as GOLBOL in the Easter egg. I can accept that many, if not all, characters pronounce it "golbol". But, for the love of all that is humane, can we PLEASE use "gold bowl" or "trophy" when we are describing it? Please, oh please. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Since you asked so nicely... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> :: Actually, in the 'toon version, it's never once referred to as a "trophy" or "gold bowl", and only once as just simply a "bowl". Why not call it "Golbol"? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Because it sounds ridiculous...? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> ::::[[Suudsu]]. [[The Denzel]]. [[Lord Quackingstick]]. We don't describe these every time they appear after being named, but they have ridiculous names as well. This is a site about silly cartoon animal people. Keep your sense of humor about you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::From another edit just made on another page, I'm reminded of another such case: [[The Geddup Noise]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::I wonder, though, if in the Fun Facts the word golbol would be better placed in quotes, since it's not a real word?--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 07:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Jay, those are established more solidly than this. The spelling "golbol" is solely from an egg which in all likelihood is just a joke in itself on the characters' pronunciation. As Dorian put in an edit summary, it makes it look like we're a bunch of turkeys. This is a knowledge base, not a poultry farm. We should use an odd spelling when it's needed, but not when it doesn't add to meaning. Suudzu - how else would you spell it? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::We had a bit of conversation over this, and it was determined that I would transcribe it as "Golbol". Sorry if there's been any confusion. &mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 12:34, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::"More solidly?" Lord Quackingstick's name is mentioned all of once. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Sure. Strong Bad unquestionably says "Quackingstick". It's a duck on a stick, the name makes perfect sense. Here, we are transcribing a word based on Homestar's and The Grape Faerie's accents, which we never do. The only supporting evidence is the egg, which could easily be itself making a joke about how those two pronounced it. I mean, concensus will win, and I can see the argument for, but I'm of the mind we ought not do this in the transcript. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Doesn't spelling it out in the Easter egg as they did carry a lot of weight, just as if Strong Bad had typed it or if it were featured as a Quote of the Week? I mean, it sure ''sounds'' like they're saying "golbol" and not "gold bowl" to me, so there's not the problem of the two not matching. Oh, to add to Jay's list of examples: "zader matermorts". &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::Yeah, but that's only because of the Easter egg. Do you really think you would transcribe it as "golbol" if you hadn't seen it? Also, you guys are making a big deal out of it. Just because it's listed as "GOLBOL" doesn't mean that it wouldn't be "''the'' golbol" otherwise. And just typing out "golbol" makes me queasy. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 22:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::No, if it weren't for the Easter egg, then there's no way I would transcribe it "golbol"... but there ''is'' the Easter egg. Are we just supposed to ignore it? In fact, I can't see any reason for the Easter egg's existence other than to give the correct spelling of the trophy's name. I therefore have no problem with calling it "the golbol" in the transcript, and in fact we may should call it "the Golbol" (a proper noun). &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::'''EDIT CONFLICT X2 (Darn you!):''' Yeah, but would it kill you to refer to it as "the gold bowl"? Besides, I hear "gold bowl" the first time it's mentioned, but unless we want to get in [[User:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars and Senseless Mud Slingings|here]], I suggest we get a clear consensus. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 23:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::I think the reason for the Easter egg is to be funny, not to tell us how to spell "gold bowl" in the HRWiki. That's a little presumptuous! And again, "zarer matermorts" was given as a direct transcription,. so that is clear. We don't know WHAT "golbol" was given for. I don't think it's appropriate to just speculate it's how to spell "gold bowl". {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:31, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::Hang on... what's funny about the Easter egg? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:24, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> I don't hear the D in "goldbol". Therefore, I say it's Golbol. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 02:26, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> : Agreed. I hear none of the characters use the "D" when they refer to it. They also don't break up the words. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:26, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I only hope TBC will [[Talk:Summer Short Shorts#Excuse Me While I Kiss This Guy|hear our cry]] and make it a QotW. Although, even then, it might still be ambiguous. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 16:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> i hear no '''d'''. therefore it is '''GOLBOL'''<br /> :I agree, putting it as "golbol" does look kind of funny. But the precidents mentioned above have been long set (As well as "[[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy|H'whatcha teekenbot]]"), that we call/spell things how The Brothers Chaps do. If they decided to make a Quote of the Week, and spell it "Gold Bowl" or something, I would be partial to that spelling, but as the evidence currently stands, we have to go with "Golbol" {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:51, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Strongest Man in the World Poster ==<br /> <br /> If I am not mistaken, it features the "Big Beefy Arm" from Trogdor fame.<br /> :I think it's just a generic beefy arm. Y'know, coz it's a strength contest and all. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> :::I agree, just a generic arm.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:28, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: I thought it looked like the same beefy arms from [[Dragon]], too. --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == LotR reference? ==<br /> <br /> It's a stretch, but I thought I'd bring it up here. When Pom Pom has the trophy at the end, Homestar says he should give it to him for his birthday, which of course was today. This is like when Gollum's friend got the Ring and Gollum demanded it for his birthday, which was that day. Of course Homestar didn't kill Pom Pom... but could they be related? I don't feel sure enough about it to add it without some agreement [[User:Inverse Tiger|Inverse Tiger]] 04:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. No offense, but is there a single line in all of H*R which isn't a reference, by this standard? Anonymous has spoken. [[User:89.1.17.101|89.1.17.101]] 04:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::OK, anonymous, there's no need to be insistent. But I do think you're right that this reference is a stretch. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :D-d-definitely, definitely a stretch [[User:Jetpac|Jetpac]] 05:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Extra Sauce? ==<br /> <br /> I think that Homestar acutally says "Extra Sauce" instead of exercise.<br /> :I heard Extracise<br /> :: Me too, though I thought of it as "Extrasize". --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Correction--the first incident, it sounds like "extra size", the second it sounds like he says "pour on that extra sauce".--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 07:06, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I'll second that.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::sounds like extro-sauze to me, but it could easily be both. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> I heard "extracise", as in excercise and extra put together. Extracise. {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:42, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pure Pwnage Reference ==<br /> <br /> Okay, this is DEFINITELY a reference, stop deleting it. I will make my case clear here.<br /> <br /> Pure Pwnage is a somewhat popular internet-show. They did an episode where the main character sat at a desk with a Compy 386 and answered emails EXACTLY like Strong Bad does. Naturally, someone pointed this out to TBC and they threw him a bone by making this reference:<br /> When Strong Bad writes to Homestar telling him he can achieve anything and then stops and says "you're a butt", this is a reference to the episode of Pure Pwnage (which references Strong Bad Emails) where Jeremy answers emails like Strong Bad and he tells someone who professes to 'like boys more than girls' that he should stay true to who he is and then erases it and writes "u r a fag".<br /> Clearly these are the exact same principle. Starting out telling someone that they can 'acheve anything' and 'stay true to who you are' and then saying to them "you're a butt" or "u r a fag" is a TOTAL DIRECT reference. They cant use the word "fag" on Homestar Runner, and Strong Bad wouldnt write "u r" They abbreviated the best they could.<br /> :Except that kind of joke is as old as the hills.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:48, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Character ''x'' does something absurdly out of character, realises what s/he's doing, stops, and reverts back to in character. This isn't exactly a new formula. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah, sorry, agree with the people above me. Not a reference. It's just Strong Bad signing 50 autographs in a row without looking up, then realizing he's signing one for Homestar.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Agreed. This is not worth getting on a soapbox over. It's an old joke. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I don't know. Personally, the reference kind of makes sense to me...[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:25, 23 August 2006<br /> <br /> == Down Goes Bland ==<br /> <br /> Someone is out to take out all of my references that are blazingly clear here, so i'm gonna write another discussion one.<br /> "Down goes Bland" is a reference to Howard Cosell's ringside calling of the Foreman Vs Frazier fight where when George Foreman won, Howard Cosell repeatedly shouted "Down goes Frazier!" <br /> C'mon, its a competition, one of them goes down and they yell "Down Goes <Last Name>"<br /> What more do you want Phlip?!<br /> :Maybe, but there are only so many ways to say that a competitor is down, after all.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Given there are over 350,000 Google results for "Down goes" and only 10,000 for "Down goes Frazier", I don't think Frazier owns this phrase. Even after allowing for the number of false positives of a shorter search string, and other refereneces to Frazier's fight, 35x the results is a lot. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::When are you going to refine a search and come up with MORE results? Your logic is perplexing to say the least. I have seen a lot more obscure things go up on this wiki. --Your Fuzzy God<br /> ::::I'm saying that if "Down goes" was actually a reference to Frazier, then a reasonable portion of the results for "Down goes" would also be results for "Down goes Frazier". As it is, less than 4% are. So "Down goes Frazier" cannot be considered the only possible source for the phrase, and once that is considered we have [[TTATOT]]. It's not a question of obscurity, it's a question of "How do we know it's this, and not something else?". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:21, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :When Homestar says "Watch your language" to Pom Pom it's a direct reference to The Lion King when Timon says that to Pumbaa!!!11111one OMG FASCISM!! ... seriously, no. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Golbol Easter Egg ==<br /> <br /> The section about the Easter Egg says that the logo in the background of the golbol belongs to the New York Yankees.<br /> <br /> In fact, it belongs to the New York Mets. (Mookie Wilson played for the Mets) {{unsigned|68.203.142.206|12:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)}}<br /> <br /> :Thanks for point this out, but a hint for next time &ndash; if you see a clear mistake in the article, you don't need to tell us about it, just go in and fix it... taking it to the talk page is generally only necessary if you're not sure, or others don't agree. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::That may all be well and good, but is it more than a coincidence that this toon came out just after the "Yankees finish historic sweep of Red Sox"? It would seem that would be rewarded with a gold bowl.<br /> <br /> ::: It is a coincidence. It's not a Yankees logo.<br /> <br /> :::: Correct. The Mets and Yankees both have "NY" in their logos but they are arranged very distinctly. See the page backgrounds [http://www.mets.com/ here] and [http://www.yankees.com here] to compare the logos (in fact, it almost looks like the Mets logo in the Easter Egg could have been taken directly from the Mets website -- notice the angle!). But on a related note, does anyone think that it's worthy of note as trivia in the article that two days before this toon appeared on the site, Mookie Wilson (who has barely ever been in the news since the Mets won the World Series in 1986) appeared at a big ceremony at the Mets stadium with many of his '86 comrades marking the 20th anniversary of the championship and that Wilson was the one to speak on behalf of all the players present in accepting the honor? [[User:LitigationMattson|LitigationMattson]] 23:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::: Here is an [http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060819&content_id=1618842&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym article] about Saturday's ceremony. Mookie Wilson is shown in the accompanying picture. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:45, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> [[Image:Mets logos.png|thumb|[[Wikipedia:New York Mets|Mets]] logos]]<br /> :::::: I still don't see the Logo anywhere, where exactly is it in the toon!! Am I just blind?<br /> :::::::It's in the background of the Easter egg accessed at the end of the toon by clicking on the trophy. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> :::::::: I still don't see it, all I see is just a plain red backround with a trophy on it and GOLBOL next to it.<br /> :::::::::May be a problem with your Flash player, your monitor, or (no offense) your eyes. They're pretty clear. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:03, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::: Just tell me where it is in this picture? http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Golbol.PNG<br /> ::::::::::: I opened that file in paint and whited out the solid red portions, producing [[:Image:GoldBowlWhiteWash.PNG|this]]. The big blobs are where the Mets logos are. Compare to the original picture. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:27, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::: Or, from another viewpoint, [[:Image:GoldBowlGreenNY.PNG|this one]] has all of the logos repainted green (very roughly, as their colors aren't perfectly solid, but it's close enough to get the general idea.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:34, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::See the image above for a clearer view. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:50, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == hewwo ==<br /> <br /> he doesn't normally mispronounce l's<br /> <br /> :Hmm... He does on every single main page...Just scroll over email. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 17:27, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Stong Bad vs. Strond Bad==<br /> When I looked at the autograph egg, Strong Bad's inscription is signed "Strond Ba... wait a sec" instead of "Stong" as is mentioned in the transcript. It's possible that this will change randomly, I suppose, although I checked it a couple of times (in different windows) and it remains "Strond". I hesitate to change it, though, because TBC have done random stuff before, so maybe someone else can see what they get. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 14:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Fowl/Foul Language ==<br /> Since Pom Pom only speaks in bubbles, we can never really know what he is saying. But from the reaction of Homestar and Strong Bad, not to mention Homestar's comment of toning the language down... couldn't this be considered the first time TBC actually have one of their characters use curse words? I mean we know they were always wanting to do that one day? ;)--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 00:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :[[Swears]]. Sorry to crush your hopes and dreams! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:12, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :{edit conflict} You mean apart from the ones listed in [[Swears]]? And it would also be possible for him to say something very nasty without actually using swear words. So it's really just speculation. Either way, looking at Strong Bad's expression, it must have been pretty tough stuff. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:14, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::That's typical "character you can't understand" behavior. I think it was done with The Cheat multiple times before. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 01:44, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Um...... wow. I wasn't aware of the Swears page! lol. Yeah, and uh, apparently I haven't noticed all those other times they borderline'd it on cursing! lol.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:39, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Voice connections ==<br /> <br /> Ok, so 1) Mr. Bland sounds a lot like Mike or Matt. And 2) The Grape Faerie sounds like a Bronx version of Homestar. Well, they're noted on this talk page now. These observations, and ones like them, aren't really relevant to the toon, and should remain off the main toon page. What could be blander than doing ''no'' voice impression at all for Mr. Bland? And certainly it's possible that some of Matt's voices will sound alike in some way&mdash;they're all coming out of the same mouth, dontcha know&mdash;so these are unnotable. Thanks for your time, and keep on tranglin'. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:02, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Agree. Thanks, Qer. It's Matt, btw everybody. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:11, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-and-Homestar? ==<br /> <br /> According to the transcript, The Announcer says "Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-and-Homestar", but every time I listen to it, I hear "Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-Dunce" (or possibly "Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-Loser"), which would also explain Homestar's suprised look. --[[User:81.94.65.69|81.94.65.69]] 05:56, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :He could just be surprised coz he doesn't get a good introduction, like the minor characters do. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> :: He's just rushing it when he says it. He seems to rush Homestar's name most of all, adding to the confusion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:00, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I slowed it down and listened closely - the "and" is more of a "'n'", and the "ar" at the end of "Homestar" is nearly missing entirely, but it's very definately "Homestar". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:50, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Would be cool if you could put a slowed down version of that soundbite online for the audio-technically stupid like me ;-) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:20, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I heard it 3 times (with earbuds), and he clearly said "Doofus". [[User:Stomhar|Stomhar]]<br /> ::[[:Image:ShortIntroduction-SMITW.ogg|Yes, you're right.]] ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 01:14, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::<strike>I've got yer ogg file on loop, The Mu, and I can't hear "doofus" at all. For me, it seems to start with "n", not "d". {{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:29, 24 August 2006 (UTC)</strike> OK, that was probably the shortened "and".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:32, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I listened to the 'toon itself, and I heard "Homestar", but it's obscured by the raspberry sound of the spotlight and his speed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:35, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::After listening to that slowed down version a hundred or so times, I believe it's either "doofus-a" or "Homestar". "Homestar" seems much more likely. The Mu, you should probably not have gone ahead and changed the transcript before waiting for reactions here. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:41, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I don't hear "doofus" at all. I hear "Homest&ndash;", with the end of Homestar's name not very pronounced (if at all), but it ''is'' his name. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:21, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> It doesn't appear as if anyone wants this changed on the transcript, so I'll leave it alone; but it sounds to me like "Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-and-Dumpface". I'm not sure if I'm the only one who thinks this, but it's not the first time Homestar has been called Dumpface (however, Doofus could work also). -Some Guy<br /> <br /> == I hear there's a pretty big wine building up? ==<br /> <br /> I'm not sure this could be put in the article since Homestar's talk is converted into English talk in the transcript. But anyway it's a joke I think many overlooked.<br /> <br /> Strong Bad says: "There's a pretty big line building up over there." and Homestar then says, according to the current transcript: "I hear there's a pretty big line building up." It's the tradition here to make abstraction of Homestar's accent when transcribing his dialogue. But what we actually hear instead of "line" sounds much more like "wine".<br /> <br /> Considering that the contest involves lifting giant grapes, "I hear there's a pretty big wine building up." would be the kind of line only Homestar could have. I'm sure it's not the first time TBC made a joke where Homestar's distorted talk innocently resulted in a clever pun that fits the situation. -[[User:Vltone|Vltone]] 09:54, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Homestar has twoubles with his l's as well. See [[Talk:Strongest Man in the World#hewwo|above]]. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:48, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::That was my point. He misspronounces his l's and that's why in that case he inadvertently ends up saying something else that happens to fit the context. -[[User:Vltone|Vltone]] 09:54, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Coincidence. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 10:23, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Actually, I hear "vine", not "wine". That's pretty strong, even for Homestar. But I don't believe that it's a reference to the grapes.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:05, 24 August 2006 (UTC)</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Strongest_Man_in_the_World Talk:Strongest Man in the World 2006-08-23T23:44:35Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: /* I still alive? */</p> <hr /> <div>== 10 years! ==<br /> <br /> Nice toon. I added this to the filmography of mr. bland and señor's charecter pages. I'm glad they re-did the old book. and there is another thing that I saw, when señor gets crushed, it says "sbloncheked" or what ever sb's candy bar was.<br /> [[User:Cessna Man!|Cessna Man!]] 23:43, 21 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I really liked this toon. It really captures the series' appeal. Who's doing the transcript for this, by the way? I hope they get done soon. We should put up pictures of Senor, Mr. Bland, etc.'s new forms on their pages. And also, Senor's voice doesn't sound like Matt's; think it could've been done by someone else?-[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 00:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I'm almost certain that Mr. Bland was voiced by Mike. Anyone know for sure? --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 01:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Plain ol' Matt's voice. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I added all the pictures, so that's done. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Not on main page? ==<br /> <br /> Does anyone else not see this on the Main Pages? Should this be included as a Fun Fact of some kind?<br /> :I see it there. Maybe clear your cache? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Introduction ==<br /> <br /> The intro says that Homestar enters the contest yet again. This seems a little misleading, as the toon is a modernization, not a sequel, as the intro could imply.<br /> <br /> :Looks like that's been changed {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Everybody Loves The Homestar Runner ==<br /> <br /> doesnt he say "Everybody loves THE me" not "loves a'me"? that would make more sense to me. --([[User:Superplough|superplough]] not logged in) [[User:132.181.7.1|132.181.7.1]] 02:01, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :He does say "the me." You can go ahead and change that. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:06, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I hear a'me. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 02:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Mega Man Introductions? ==<br /> <br /> I think that Mr. Bland, Señor, and The Robot's introductions may be references to games from the [[Wikipedia:Mega_Man_(series)|Mega Man series]], in which the bosses are introduced with a snazzy background, a pose, and a sound effect before you begin their levels. Or, is this a more general reference? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:07, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The opening to The New Leave it to Beaver Show introduced the cast in a similar fashion if I remember correctly. Can't find any substantiating images though. Does it have to be a reference? Maybe it's just a visually interesting way to introduce characters. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 02:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Slo-Mo Action That is The Matrix, Super Mario Strikers and Final Fantasy In One==<br /> <br /> Currently, the article page says that Homestar's slo-mo kicking of The Cheat is a reference to Super Mario Strikers. I think that it's actually a reference to The Matrix.<br /> <br /> Hmmm... I dont think its necessarily a Matrix reference...its just in slow motion. the camera doesnt rotate around Homestar like the famous "bullet time" effect usually does. To me it just looks like a bicycle kick. <br /> - [[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 02:49, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah, you're probably right. But I don't think TBC would make a reference to Super Mario Strikers. {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 03:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> TBC have mentioned in an Interview (can't remember which one) that they are fans of Nintendo games, it is possible that they would reference Super Mario Striker, In SMS if a player passes the ball to a teammate in front of the Goal and the recieving teammate holds down the shoot button, the game will go into slow motion and the reciving teammate will do one of many different styles of Kicks,The most popular one Being the exact same move that Homestar did on Teh C. Also regarding the fact that it may be actually a reference to The Matrix, I recall no such move being used in any of the Matrix movies, [[User:Dctcool|Dctcool]]<br /> <br /> It actually reminded me most of Shaolin Soccer... but that could be because I just watched it today.<br /> :It reminds me of a lot of martial arts movies, but not one in particular that springs to mind.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Does anyone have a video of that specific kick from Super Mario Strikers? {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 14:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::: I found a video on Youtube of Super Mario Strikers which features the move in question [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc0xihGkfuw / SMS video review] The move happen at around the 1:10 mark<br /> <br /> I recently removed these RWRs from the page:<br /> <br /> *Homestar's slow-motion move (a Pele kick) seems similar to a "Slo-mo Cross Shot" from [[Wikipedia:Super_Mario_Strikers|Super Mario Strikers]].<br /> **It could also be a reference to the "Bullet Time" sequences in [[Wikipedia:The_Matrix|The Matrix]].<br /> ***Another possibility is they modeled it after the Sphere Shot in [[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy X|Final Fantasy X]].<br /> <br /> This seems to me to be the very definition of TTATOT. I'd be glad to entertain discussion to help settle what Homestar's move ''actually'' refers to; however, I kind of suspect it's actually just a generic fighting move and not a reference at all. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Heh, I agree. But now that you mention the Sphere Shot...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 04:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I propose that it is a reference to Shaolin Soccer. Though, actually, like many of the most reasonable people here, I doubt it's a direct reference to -anything-. Still, that kind of manuever is done at least once, if not a few times in Shaolin Soccer, in slo-mo and everything.<br /> <br /> It's possible that it references all 3 franchises (except the Matrix as there is no such move in any Matrix movies)<br /> <br /> ::I don't think it references a single thing. Homestar kicks the cheat around like a soccer ball with generic moves and does an out of the ordinary extra kick in slow motion to emphasize it. It might be inspired by such things but not directly referencing Shaolin Soccer, Matrix or Super Mario Strikers. The ONLY WAY it could be a reference, directly, to any of those is if the moves Homestar is doing are pretty much exactly done like those in the particular move in the game or movie. --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm not saying it's a referance, but is it just me, or is Homestar's flip when kicking the Cheat very similar to one of Tidus's blitzball kicks in Final Fantasy X? -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 01:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> : There are other things it's similar to as well, though - we removed it as a TTATOT fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:37, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> [[Wikipedia:Image:Grabbed Frame 18.jpg|Here's a picture of the FFX kick in question.]] ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 21:38, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'd seriously go with SMS, as the Blitzball kick seems to have a much greater range of motion, not to mention that TBC would be more inclined to reference the Nintendo game. Remember: Just because there's a possibility for TTATOT doesn't mean that it always is. This fact falls under that category; it most definitely is a reference to SOMETHING. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 21:43, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: Yeah. It's a reference to a [[Wikipedia:Bicycle kick|Bicycle kick]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:47, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::And the slow motion? <small>(Super Mario Strikers is a soccer game... >_>)</small> ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 22:01, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::: Just to make it more dramatic (and so what? If it's a real move in soccer, and the game allows characters to perform the move, then how is that anything other than normal?) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:05, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==I still alive?==<br /> I think Senor says "I see the light!" Instead of "I still alive"! I see the light is much funnier. The Chaps would go for I See The Light!-Me<br /> : I hear "I still alive," funny or not. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:48, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I originally thought it was "i see the light", but i think "I still alive" makes more sense with the way he waves his hand up through the grapes. And his bad grammar does fit with hes dialect. -[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 02:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> : I was just about to add a discussion on this line. I hear, "I ''feel'' alive!" His accent is a little hard to decipher, so I don't see this ending well. Prepare for weeks of arguing...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::FWIW, the first time I heard it I heard "I steel alive!" and it was hilarious. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I heard "I steel alive" [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 03:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> [[Media:Alive.ogg|The first quote in question]]--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 03:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I heard "I see de light!" {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 03:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::It is clearly "I steel alive" {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> After watching it a few timew I thought that it was I see de light [[User:Smallowman|Smallowman]] 04:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I hear "I still alive!", too.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:56, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::"I still alive!" &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:15, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::"I still alive!" - {{User:Kookykman/sig}} 23:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::He's still alive; I hear "I still alive" - {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 16:40 23 August 2006<br /> :::::::::: I hear "I feel alive!". If it is actually "I feel alive", might it be a reference to "I FEEL ASLEEP"? :/ {{User:Raised by Coffee/sig}} 23:44, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == All right, you crap-for-brains ==<br /> <br /> What is it that the Grape Fairie is saying in his first line. I can't tell what it is, but it doesn't sound anything like "stupid" to me. Thoughts? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:55, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :My first guess is "sorry brains", but I'm not sure enough to change the transcript.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:59, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Perhaps "slowest brains"? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: ive just listeend to it a bunch of times and im pretty sure its just one syllable. kinda sounds like "All right you slows brains". Im not really hearing the 2 sylables of slowest and not the "ee" sound of sorry. But yea definatly not "stupid brains" -[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 03:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> [[Media:Listenup.ogg|The second quote in question]]--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 03:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::sounds like: " i'm ready, so you'se brains listen up smart " possibly calling them brains in conjunction with listen up smart. {{User:Csours/sig}} 03:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Do you have headphones or speakers, Csours? I'm curious. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Ohhh yeah, "slows brains" kind of works! I was looking for something that rhymes/sounds like "stoes brains," and I think that's it. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::speakers. i know headphones are better, i just havent got any yet. also i put it on loop on my sound editor and listened to it like 100 times.{{User:Csours/sig}} 14:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> How about 'doze brains'?<br /> <br /> :It sounds like "booze brains" to me, but, not likely. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 22:37, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Unplugged? ==<br /> <br /> The first fun fact credits the show MTV Unplugged with the creation of the term unplugged. I think (and am researching) that the term predates the show. [[User:Mila|Mila]] 03:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :"Unplugged" dates back to the beginnings of elictricity. But as a description of music played without extra amplification, MTV gets the credit. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The unplugged fact is credited both to MTV and Eric Clapton in different sections, which is kind of contradicting itself. One or the other should be taken out.<br /> ===Teh Proof===<br /> Quotes from the Oxford English dictionary:<br /> *New York Times, 21 April 1957<br /> *:The return of the unplugged guitar gets another boost from George Van Eps, who was supplying rhythmic chords to jazz groups long before voltage came into fashion.<br /> *Washington Post, 26 December 1986<br /> *:Nils Lofgren unplugged is still Nils Lofgren the musician... Lofgren will give a rare acoustic concert at the Bayou tomorrow.<br /> *Toronto Star, 6 October 1989<br /> *:The simple, six-string folk rhythms of several songs here..owe some of their sincere appeal to the unplugged colors of Tracy Chapman's music.<br /> MTV Unplugged first aired on 26 November, 1989. Lexicography saves the day again! --[[User:60.228.144.21|60.228.144.21]] 08:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Nice catch... I've reworded the fact to say that MTV popularised it, but didn't coin it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==hacky sack vs footbag==<br /> <br /> in the transcript, it says that homestar kicks the cheat around like a hacky sack. this is a brand name. footbag is the generic term.{{User:Csours/sig}} 03:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> : I never play with hackysacks or footbags, but I don't know anyone who would know what you mean if you say footbag [[User:Inverse Tiger|Inverse Tiger]] 04:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I've never heard the word "footbag", either. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Ditto--I've heard them called hacky sacks for 20 years (or thereabouts), but I've never heard footbags. It may be a brand name, but it's pretty much been adopted as a generic term (like with Levis or Kleenex).--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I've never heard of a footbag ''or'' a hacky sack. Does that mean I'm stupid? [[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 12:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::I've never heard Levis used as a generic term... --[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 15:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Actually, the way he kicks it also looks like the way you can bounce a ball in soccer.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Page Title ==<br /> <br /> Is "The Homestar Runner Enters the Longest Page Title on the Website Contest!" actually the longest page title on the website? [[User:!!|!!]]<br /> <br /> : [[User talk:William | Shall we find out?]] [[User:William|William]] 04:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I did my own search by looking up "Page title" on the wiki's search bar and looking through each selection. Turns out this toon doesn't win. See the fun facts for the true winner. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 05:30, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wretched Simmons Outfit ==<br /> <br /> Homestar's spandex workout uniform is from the Lady Fan E-mail.<br /> :Yep, that's already mentioned there. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> == Enough with the golbol! ==<br /> <br /> Alright already! I see that it's captioned as GOLBOL in the Easter egg. I can accept that many, if not all, characters pronounce it "golbol". But, for the love of all that is humane, can we PLEASE use "gold bowl" or "trophy" when we are describing it? Please, oh please. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Since you asked so nicely... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> :: Actually, in the 'toon version, it's never once referred to as a "trophy" or "gold bowl", and only once as just simply a "bowl". Why not call it "Golbol"? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Because it sounds ridiculous...? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> ::::[[Suudsu]]. [[The Denzel]]. [[Lord Quackingstick]]. We don't describe these every time they appear after being named, but they have ridiculous names as well. This is a site about silly cartoon animal people. Keep your sense of humor about you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::From another edit just made on another page, I'm reminded of another such case: [[The Geddup Noise]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::I wonder, though, if in the Fun Facts the word golbol would be better placed in quotes, since it's not a real word?--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 07:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::Jay, those are established more solidly than this. The spelling "golbol" is solely from an egg which in all likelihood is just a joke in itself on the characters' pronunciation. As Dorian put in an edit summary, it makes it look like we're a bunch of turkeys. This is a knowledge base, not a poultry farm. We should use an odd spelling when it's needed, but not when it doesn't add to meaning. Suudzu - how else would you spell it? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::We had a bit of conversation over this, and it was determined that I would transcribe it as "Golbol". Sorry if there's been any confusion. &mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 12:34, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::"More solidly?" Lord Quackingstick's name is mentioned all of once. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Sure. Strong Bad unquestionably says "Quackingstick". It's a duck on a stick, the name makes perfect sense. Here, we are transcribing a word based on Homestar's and The Grape Faerie's accents, which we never do. The only supporting evidence is the egg, which could easily be itself making a joke about how those two pronounced it. I mean, concensus will win, and I can see the argument for, but I'm of the mind we ought not do this in the transcript. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Doesn't spelling it out in the Easter egg as they did carry a lot of weight, just as if Strong Bad had typed it or if it were featured as a Quote of the Week? I mean, it sure ''sounds'' like they're saying "golbol" and not "gold bowl" to me, so there's not the problem of the two not matching. Oh, to add to Jay's list of examples: "zader matermorts". &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::Yeah, but that's only because of the Easter egg. Do you really think you would transcribe it as "golbol" if you hadn't seen it? Also, you guys are making a big deal out of it. Just because it's listed as "GOLBOL" doesn't mean that it wouldn't be "''the'' golbol" otherwise. And just typing out "golbol" makes me queasy. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 22:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::No, if it weren't for the Easter egg, then there's no way I would transcribe it "golbol"... but there ''is'' the Easter egg. Are we just supposed to ignore it? In fact, I can't see any reason for the Easter egg's existence other than to give the correct spelling of the trophy's name. I therefore have no problem with calling it "the golbol" in the transcript, and in fact we may should call it "the Golbol" (a proper noun). &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::'''EDIT CONFLICT X2 (Darn you!):''' Yeah, but would it kill you to refer to it as "the gold bowl"? Besides, I hear "gold bowl" the first time it's mentioned, but unless we want to get in [[User:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars and Senseless Mud Slingings|here]], I suggest we get a clear consensus. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 23:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::::I think the reason for the Easter egg is to be funny, not to tell us how to spell "gold bowl" in the HRWiki. That's a little presumptuous! And again, "zarer matermorts" was given as a direct transcription,. so that is clear. We don't know WHAT "golbol" was given for. I don't think it's appropriate to just speculate it's how to spell "gold bowl". {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:31, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> I don't hear the D in "goldbol". Therefore, I say it's Golbol. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 02:26, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> : Agreed. I hear none of the characters use the "D" when they refer to it. They also don't break up the words. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:26, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I only hope TBC will [[Talk:Summer Short Shorts#Excuse Me While I Kiss This Guy|hear our cry]] and make it a QotW. Although, even then, it might still be ambiguous. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 16:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Strongest Man in the World Poster ==<br /> <br /> If I am not mistaken, it features the "Big Beefy Arm" from Trogdor fame.<br /> :I think it's just a generic beefy arm. Y'know, coz it's a strength contest and all. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> :::I agree, just a generic arm.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:28, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :: I thought it looked like the same beefy arms from [[Dragon]], too. --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == LotR reference? ==<br /> <br /> It's a stretch, but I thought I'd bring it up here. When Pom Pom has the trophy at the end, Homestar says he should give it to him for his birthday, which of course was today. This is like when Gollum's friend got the Ring and Gollum demanded it for his birthday, which was that day. Of course Homestar didn't kill Pom Pom... but could they be related? I don't feel sure enough about it to add it without some agreement [[User:Inverse Tiger|Inverse Tiger]] 04:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. No offense, but is there a single line in all of H*R which isn't a reference, by this standard? Anonymous has spoken. [[User:89.1.17.101|89.1.17.101]] 04:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::OK, anonymous, there's no need to be insistent. But I do think you're right that this reference is a stretch. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :D-d-definitely, definitely a stretch [[User:Jetpac|Jetpac]] 05:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Extra Sauce? ==<br /> <br /> I think that Homestar acutally says "Extra Sauce" instead of exercise.<br /> :I heard Extracise<br /> :: Me too, though I thought of it as "Extrasize". --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Correction--the first incident, it sounds like "extra size", the second it sounds like he says "pour on that extra sauce".--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 07:06, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I'll second that.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::sounds like extro-sauze to me, but it could easily be both. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pure Pwnage Reference ==<br /> <br /> Okay, this is DEFINITELY a reference, stop deleting it. I will make my case clear here.<br /> <br /> Pure Pwnage is a somewhat popular internet-show. They did an episode where the main character sat at a desk with a Compy 386 and answered emails EXACTLY like Strong Bad does. Naturally, someone pointed this out to TBC and they threw him a bone by making this reference:<br /> When Strong Bad writes to Homestar telling him he can achieve anything and then stops and says "you're a butt", this is a reference to the episode of Pure Pwnage (which references Strong Bad Emails) where Jeremy answers emails like Strong Bad and he tells someone who professes to 'like boys more than girls' that he should stay true to who he is and then erases it and writes "u r a fag".<br /> Clearly these are the exact same principle. Starting out telling someone that they can 'acheve anything' and 'stay true to who you are' and then saying to them "you're a butt" or "u r a fag" is a TOTAL DIRECT reference. They cant use the word "fag" on Homestar Runner, and Strong Bad wouldnt write "u r" They abbreviated the best they could.<br /> :Except that kind of joke is as old as the hills.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:48, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Character ''x'' does something absurdly out of character, realises what s/he's doing, stops, and reverts back to in character. This isn't exactly a new formula. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah, sorry, agree with the people above me. Not a reference. It's just Strong Bad signing 50 autographs in a row without looking up, then realizing he's signing one for Homestar.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Agreed. This is not worth getting on a soapbox over. It's an old joke. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I don't know. Personally, the reference kind of makes sense to me...[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:25, 23 August 2006<br /> <br /> == Down Goes Bland ==<br /> <br /> Someone is out to take out all of my references that are blazingly clear here, so i'm gonna write another discussion one.<br /> "Down goes Bland" is a reference to Howard Cosell's ringside calling of the Foreman Vs Frazier fight where when George Foreman won, Howard Cosell repeatedly shouted "Down goes Frazier!" <br /> C'mon, its a competition, one of them goes down and they yell "Down Goes <Last Name>"<br /> What more do you want Phlip?!<br /> :Maybe, but there are only so many ways to say that a competitor is down, after all.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Given there are over 350,000 Google results for "Down goes" and only 10,000 for "Down goes Frazier", I don't think Frazier owns this phrase. Even after allowing for the number of false positives of a shorter search string, and other refereneces to Frazier's fight, 35x the results is a lot. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::When are you going to refine a search and come up with MORE results? Your logic is perplexing to say the least. I have seen a lot more obscure things go up on this wiki. --Your Fuzzy God<br /> ::::I'm saying that if "Down goes" was actually a reference to Frazier, then a reasonable portion of the results for "Down goes" would also be results for "Down goes Frazier". As it is, less than 4% are. So "Down goes Frazier" cannot be considered the only possible source for the phrase, and once that is considered we have [[TTATOT]]. It's not a question of obscurity, it's a question of "How do we know it's this, and not something else?". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:21, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :When Homestar says "Watch your language" to Pom Pom it's a direct reference to The Lion King when Timon says that to Pumbaa!!!11111one OMG FASCISM!! ... seriously, no. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Golbol Easter Egg ==<br /> <br /> The section about the Easter Egg says that the logo in the background of the golbol belongs to the New York Yankees.<br /> <br /> In fact, it belongs to the New York Mets. (Mookie Wilson played for the Mets) {{unsigned|68.203.142.206|12:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)}}<br /> <br /> :Thanks for point this out, but a hint for next time &ndash; if you see a clear mistake in the article, you don't need to tell us about it, just go in and fix it... taking it to the talk page is generally only necessary if you're not sure, or others don't agree. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::That may all be well and good, but is it more than a coincidence that this toon came out just after the "Yankees finish historic sweep of Red Sox"? It would seem that would be rewarded with a gold bowl.<br /> <br /> ::: It is a coincidence. It's not a Yankees logo.<br /> <br /> :::: Correct. The Mets and Yankees both have "NY" in their logos but they are arranged very distinctly. See the page backgrounds [http://www.mets.com/ here] and [http://www.yankees.com here] to compare the logos (in fact, it almost looks like the Mets logo in the Easter Egg could have been taken directly from the Mets website -- notice the angle!). But on a related note, does anyone think that it's worthy of note as trivia in the article that two days before this toon appeared on the site, Mookie Wilson (who has barely ever been in the news since the Mets won the World Series in 1986) appeared at a big ceremony at the Mets stadium with many of his '86 comrades marking the 20th anniversary of the championship and that Wilson was the one to speak on behalf of all the players present in accepting the honor? [[User:LitigationMattson|LitigationMattson]] 23:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::: Here is an [http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060819&content_id=1618842&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym article] about Saturday's ceremony. Mookie Wilson is shown in the accompanying picture. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:45, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> [[Image:Mets logos.png|thumb|[[Wikipedia:New York Mets|Mets]] logos]]<br /> :::::: I still don't see the Logo anywhere, where exactly is it in the toon!! Am I just blind?<br /> :::::::It's in the background of the Easter egg accessed at the end of the toon by clicking on the trophy. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> :::::::: I still don't see it, all I see is just a plain red backround with a trophy on it and GOLBOL next to it.<br /> :::::::::May be a problem with your Flash player, your monitor, or (no offense) your eyes. They're pretty clear. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:03, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::: Just tell me where it is in this picture? http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:GoldBowl.jpg<br /> ::::::::::: I opened that file in paint and whited out the solid red portions, producing [[:Image:GoldBowlWhiteWash.PNG|this]]. The big blobs are where the Mets logos are. Compare to the original picture. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:27, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::: Or, from another viewpoint, [[:Image:GoldBowlGreenNY.PNG|this one]] has all of the logos repainted green (very roughly, as their colors aren't perfectly solid, but it's close enough to get the general idea.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:34, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::::::See the image above for a clearer view. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:50, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == hewwo ==<br /> <br /> he doesn't normally mispronounce l's<br /> <br /> :Hmm... He does on every single main page...Just scroll over email. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 17:27, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Stong Bad vs. Strond Bad==<br /> When I looked at the autograph egg, Strong Bad's inscription is signed "Strond Ba... wait a sec" instead of "Stong" as is mentioned in the transcript. It's possible that this will change randomly, I suppose, although I checked it a couple of times (in different windows) and it remains "Strond". I hesitate to change it, though, because TBC have done random stuff before, so maybe someone else can see what they get. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 14:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Fowl/Foul Language ==<br /> Since Pom Pom only speaks in bubbles, we can never really know what he is saying. But from the reaction of Homestar and Strong Bad, not to mention Homestar's comment of toning the language down... couldn't this be considered the first time TBC actually have one of their characters use curse words? I mean we know they were always wanting to do that one day? ;)--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 00:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :[[Swears]]. Sorry to crush your hopes and dreams! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:12, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :{edit conflict} You mean apart from the ones listed in [[Swears]]? And it would also be possible for him to say something very nasty without actually using swear words. So it's really just speculation. Either way, looking at Strong Bad's expression, it must have been pretty tough stuff. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:14, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::That's typical "character you can't understand" behavior. I think it was done with The Cheat multiple times before. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 01:44, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Um...... wow. I wasn't aware of the Swears page! lol. Yeah, and uh, apparently I haven't noticed all those other times they borderline'd it on cursing! lol.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:39, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Voice connections ==<br /> <br /> Ok, so 1) Mr. Bland sounds a lot like Mike or Matt. And 2) The Grape Faerie sounds like a Bronx version of Homestar. Well, they're noted on this talk page now. These observations, and ones like them, aren't really relevant to the toon, and should remain off the main toon page. What could be blander than doing ''no'' voice impression at all for Mr. Bland? And certainly it's possible that some of Matt's voices will sound alike in some way&mdash;they're all coming out of the same mouth, dontcha know&mdash;so these are unnotable. Thanks for your time, and keep on tranglin'. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:02, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Agree. Thanks, Qer. It's Matt, btw everybody. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:11, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-and-Homestar? ==<br /> <br /> According to the transcript, The Announcer says "Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-and-Homestar", but every time I listen to it, I hear "Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-Dunce" (or possibly "Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-Loser"), which would also explain Homestar's suprised look. --[[User:81.94.65.69|81.94.65.69]] 05:56, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :He could just be surprised coz he doesn't get a good introduction, like the minor characters do. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> :: He's just rushing it when he says it. He seems to rush Homestar's name most of all, adding to the confusion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:00, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::I slowed it down and listened closely - the "and" is more of a "'n'", and the "ar" at the end of "Homestar" is nearly missing entirely, but it's very definately "Homestar". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:50, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Would be cool if you could put a slowed down version of that soundbite online for the audio-technically stupid like me ;-) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:20, 23 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I heard it 3 times (with earbuds), and he clearly said "Doofus". [[User:Stomhar|Stomhar]]</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:A_Folky_Tale Talk:A Folky Tale 2006-08-12T22:58:36Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: /* Homsar's line */</p> <hr /> <div>== Physics ==<br /> <br /> ''If the laws of physics are the same in Free Country, USA as they are on the real earth, then the rope is only about 10 feet long.''<br /> <br /> If i dare to reveal my ignorance, can anyone explain/elaborate?<br /> And evidently, the rope is NOT 10 feet long as Strong Sad cannot see Homsar holding it<br /> Then again, since when does physic apply around Homsar?<br /> -[[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]]<br /> <br /> :The time it takes a pendulum to swing back and forth is the same regardless of its weight or density. It only depends on the strength of gravity and the length of the pendulum. So since the rope takes about 3.4 seconds to swing back and forth, it should be about ten feet long. But this fact keeps on being deleted, so it's probably not important. -[[User:Eman|Eman]]<br /> <br /> ::It's really not important how long the rope is, especially since you can still see the tops of the trees. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:07, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Who cares how long the rope is? thats not a very important part in the story. --[[User: Bubsty|Bubsty]]<br /> <br /> :::Strong Sad doesn't say he can't see homsar; He just says that he is "concerned about what that rope is attached to." Wouldn't you be concerned if Coach Z told you to climb a rope held up by homsar and nothing else?<br /> <br /> I should point out that the rope's ''center of mass'' should be at ten feet. The rope is therefore 20 feet long (assuming uniform density). Also, by counting ten periods while looking at my clock, the rope swings every 3.7 seconds, not 3.4 seconds which means it's 22 feet long if you trust some extra significant figures. Hooray for my first contribution!--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] Some time before I got my account.<br /> <br /> :Oh, come on, people. It might not be important, but it's kind of a fun fact to know that you can work out the length of the rope.<br /> <br /> ::I second that. I think we should take a vote.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 21:28, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::There's a pretty big discrepancy between 10 feet at the top and 22 feet two comments above. Which it it? (It's been a bit since my last physics class.) It's hard to vote on something when the figures don't even agree. Somebody show their work. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:43, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::For small angles, where <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''T''</span> is the period of one oscillation, <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span> is distance from the pivot to the centre of gravity of the pendulum, and <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''g''</span> is acceleration due to gravity, <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''T''</span> = 2<span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">&pi;</span>(<span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span>/<span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''g''</span>)<sup>1/2</sup>, and I think we can agree that the angles involved are small. So with <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''T''</span> = 3.7s and <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''g''</span> = 9.8ms<sup>-2</sup>, we get <br /> :::::<table CELLPADDING=4><tr><td ALIGN=RIGHT>3.7 s</td><td>=</td><td><table><tr><td>2<span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">&pi;</span></td><td><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:45px;line-height:50px;">(</span></td><td><table><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER COLSPAN="2" style="border-bottom:1px solid black"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER ROWSPAN="2">9.8</td><td ALIGN=CENTER style="border-bottom:1px solid black;line-height:8px"><small>m</small></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER style="line-height:15px"><small>s<sup>2</sup></small></td></tr></table></td><td><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:45px;line-height:50px;">)</span></td><td></td><td><sup>1/2</sup></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=RIGHT>0.59 s</td><td>=</td><td><table><tr><td><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:45px;line-height:50px;">(</span></td><td><table><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER COLSPAN="2" style="border-bottom:1px solid black"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER ROWSPAN="2">9.8</td><td ALIGN=CENTER style="border-bottom:1px solid black;line-height:12px"><small>m</small></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER style="line-height:15px"><small>s<sup>2</sup></small></td></tr></table></td><td><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:45px;line-height:50px;">)</span></td><td><sup>1/2</sup></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td>0.35 s<sup>2</sup></td><td>=</td><td><table><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER COLSPAN="2" style="border-bottom:1px solid black"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER ROWSPAN="2">9.8</td><td ALIGN=CENTER style="border-bottom:1px solid black;line-height:12px"><small>m</small></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER style="line-height:15px"><small>s<sup>2</sup></small></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=RIGHT><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span></td><td>=</td><td>3.4 m (about 11 ft)</td></tr></table><br /> ::::However this is the distance from the pivot to the centre of gravity - for a pendulum the centre of gravity is the weight on the end, but for a rope it's approximately in the middle, making the total length is 6.8m or 22ft. However this also assumes no air resistance, and with the small oscillations that the rope has meaning very little gravitational force, the air resistance would be significant. But taking air resistance into account would only make the estimation of the length shorter (to be specific: in an frictionless environment the rope would oscillate faster (duh) so applying the frictionless formula to that smaller number would make a smaller length).<br /> ::::BTW: Why don't <nowiki><math></math></nowiki> tags work here? {{User:phlip/sig}} 23:16, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::::Good work phlip. I just thought of something else we may be leaving out: would the movement of Homsar's head (which is shown ''not'' to be motionless in the egg) affect the movement of the rope? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:53, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Good point... yes, it would. Especially with the small motions that the rope goes through. However given how regularly it's swinging we can probably infer either Homsar is moving in time or he's stationary except during the egg. Either is speculation though. {{User:phlip/sig}} 23:57, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> [[Image:ropelength.png|thumb|10px|left]]<br /> I tried measuring the angle of the rope as it swings, to find out where the pivot actually is, it comes to about 9ft give or take a foot or so (assuming that the distance between each knot is about foot and a half - I took SS and Coach Z as being about 6ft tall as a base measurement and worked from there. Also it depends on the accuracy of the angle measurements - one pixel either way can have a foot or two different answer). So regardless of what should physically happen, that's the point the rope is animated pivoting around. {{User:phlip/sig}} 07:49, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :Hmm, I'm beginning to think that we might possibly be starting to go into a little bit more depth than TBC intended us to go for this swinging rope. {{User:phlip/sig}} 07:52, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::If air resistance had a significant effect, then the rope's oscillations would be decreasing in size. So air resistance is negligible. - [[User:Eman]]<br /> :::Yes, I discourage people from assuming the knots are a specific distance apart or that Coach Z is a specific height. Wasn't there lots of conflicting evidence about Strong Mad's height and weight? If Strong Mad weighs 9,990 pounds (I think that was one measurement taken from Marshmallow's Last Stand), then the proportions in Free Country, USA might be ridiculous. The bottom line is that if the physics of Free Country, USA is identical to our own, then the rope is 22 feet long. That's a pretty big "if", however-- maybe gravity is much weaker to accomodate such enormous characters! I still say we include it.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 18:56, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::::Nah, there's too much guesswork. You said yourself it's a pretty big "if". On the other hand, this discussion itself is an excellent resource that takes many possibilities into account, and it even has equations and illustrations. I think it covers the topic well, considering that the bottom line is that it's all quite a bit of speculation. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:08, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::::The reason why I like it is that the only presumption is that gravity accelerates objects at 9.8 meters per second squared. We don't have to guess anything about the height of Strong Sad or Coach Z or the distance between the knots, etc. We already know the characters have strange proportions. Hell, The Cheat doesn't even have a liver or anything! Why not use physics given that it's far more reliable? I see no reason why it can't be added as long as we make it clear that it relies on the assumption that gravity is still 9.8 m/s^2 in the Homestar universe.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 19:33, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::::::No speculation about it. The equation requires 2 things: the period and "g". What the heck! It's a Wiki: add it! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:16, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br style="clear:left" /><br /> :::::::What the heck! I added it! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:20, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> This calculation is complete crap. The formula for the period of a pendulum assumes a weight at the end of a massless string. This formula doesn't apply to massive ropes without weights on the end. The physics of the two situations is quite different, for example a hanging massive string makes a hyperbolic cosine while a weighted massive string makes a parabola.<br /> :Right you are, although the curving effect is insignificant. But, as you said, you can't assume all the weight is concentrated in one place.<br /> <br /> :For a pendulum with a complicated distribution of mass, such as a hanging rope, the period is<br /> ::T = 2π*sqrt[I/(mgh)],<br /> :where I is the rotational inertia of the pendulum about the pivot point, m is the total mass of the pendulum, and h is the distance from the pivot point to the center of mass. (For a simple pendulum of length L where all of the weight is concentrated at the end, I is equal to mL&sup2;, and h is equal to L. This yields the formula T = 2π*sqrt[L/g], which was used above.)<br /> <br /> :If we assume the mass of the rope is distributed evenly across its length, its rotational inertia is equal to<br /> ::I = 1/3*mL&sup2;,<br /> :and the center of mass is positioned halfway down the length of the rope, so<br /> ::h = 1/2*L.<br /> <br /> :Therefore, the period of oscillation of the rope is<br /> ::T = 2π*sqrt[(1/3*mL&sup2;)/(1/2*mgL)] = 2π*sqrt[2/3*L/g]. Note that the mass of the rope cancels, and again the equation depends only on the period, the length, and g (the acceleration of gravity).<br /> :So given a period of 3.7 seconds and an acceleration of gravity of 9.8 m/s&sup2;, we have<br /> ::3.7 s = 2π*sqrt[2/3*L/(9.8 m/s&sup2;)], which simplifies to:<br /> :::L = 5.1 m (about 17 ft).<br /> <br /> :In this calculation L is the total length of the pendulum, not the length to the center of mass (that’s h). So the total length of the pendulum is 17 ft (not 34 feet).<br /> <br /> :You can’t assume that all the mass of the rope is concentrated at the end, as you can for a simple pendulum: this gives an answer of 11 ft, which is too small. However, you also can’t assume that all the mass of the rope is concentrated at the center, as phlip did, giving an answer of 22 ft. Instead, you must realize that there is mass at the top, the center, and the end, and everywhere in between. Taking the distribution of mass of the rope into account, we get an answer between the two: 17 ft.<br /> <br /> :I know there are knots in the rope, but they are insignificant (unless there are lead weights in them.) Also, as the previous contributor rightly stated, a flexible rope pendulum will tend to curve as it oscillates. But for such small angles, this effect is also insignificant, and it doesn’t much change the center of mass or the rotational inertia. - [[User:Eman|Eman]]<br /> <br /> ::Though I haven't been able to come to the same conclusion from first principles, I found the equation you used in my physics text. I'm going to take Eman's word on this. I think he has come up with the correct answer and this can finally be put to rest. Great jorb, Eman! --[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 23:51, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Nice work, I didn't know about that generalised formula... though I should have remembered that it's not just the position of the centre of mass that matters for a rotating object. {{User:phlip/sig}} 00:29, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The mayor and Dancing bros. ==<br /> <br /> Where should we catagorize them? I like the Dancing bros. enough to make a page about them, but the mayor is just a guy.. with ... a job..?--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:20, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the Dancing Brothers, but I don't think an article about the mayor is a good idea. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 04:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Agreed--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I kinda agree, actully. The dancing Bros defianately need a page, but the mayor... i dunno. [[User:Bubsty|Bubsty]]<br /> <br /> The mayor actually doesn't say anything. He squeaks and Strong Sad says his words. [[User:Catman87]]<br /> <br /> == The Elephant Man ==<br /> <br /> May I add something about the realationship with how Puppet Homestar said that he looked like the elephant man on the DVD Puppet Stuff? --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:36, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> does it take two or three times to be mentioned as an inside joke? it depends on that i think--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:38, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> After research i think that the elphant man is obscure enough to be classified as an inside joke...--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:39, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> So, then what should I do? BTW, thanks! lol --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:41, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The elephant man hasn't ever really seemed obscure to me... Maybe to other people though. But all the same, in those two different contexts, it doesn't seem like an inside joke to me. If there was yet another reference to the elephant man after this, then I'd call it safe to classify it as an inside joke(or more appropriately, a running gag). --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]<br /> <br /> So can I put it in that homestar said it too atleast?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 20:35, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Linking Up==<br /> I think it would be a good idea to link Saddy Dumpington in the inside references section.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 04:40, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Saddy Dumpington's already linked at the top under Characters. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 04:42, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Roger. Sorry! I'm just excited to be helping a little bit with the new toon.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 04:44, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ^^I feel the same way. I'm trying to find something I can do!!! lol --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:45, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Shut up. --Der Pepper<br /> <br /> Der Pepper, comments like that will get you banned. <small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small> 18:59, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Who was he talking to?<br /> <br /> ==Linking to this article==<br /> Should we title the link as Saddy Dumpington (toon), or Saddy Dumpington. I prefer the latter because wherever the link is, people will be able to presue by the text that it is a cartoon.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 04:48, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Saddy Dumpington is already an article about the character.--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:49, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I know that, but I talking about using the | thing in the link. I've seen it before for toons.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 04:51, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I vote we should hold off on the desicion until it is on the toons page and then make the visible part of the link say whatever the toons page says.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 05:05, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> And now we know, "A Folky Tale." So much for that. --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]<br /> <br /> i 'gree<br /> == Article Name ==<br /> <br /> Why is this article not called "The Folky Tale of Saddy Dumpington"? That's what's on the title card. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:50, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> : I think the page should be moved as soon as the title appears on the 'Toons page (which it hasn't yet). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:53, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah, I agree. I won't be surprised if that above is the full title. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:08, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::"A Folky Tale." I was close. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]<br /> <br /> :::I agree with Dot com on this one. Why is the article named the way it is? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::::As "A Folky Tale," this is how it appears on the Toons menu. The question was asked when this page was called "Saddy Dumpington (toon)." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:11, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::D'oh! I'm not going to the main site enough! Thanks for clarifying! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:13, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::I do believe it is on the Toons page now! --[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 19:15, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Side issue: Should "The Folky Tale of Saddy Dumpington" be a redirect? I guess I could just make one, but... meh. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:19, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::its definately just called "A folky tale." end of disscussion.<br /> == lol ==<br /> <br /> I laughed my butt off at Jargle.. anyone else? Beuler?<br /> <br /> I laugh at Coach Z's accent all the time. I'm with ya there.<br /> :Jargle and turlet just crack me up here. Nice Ferris Beuler thing. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:31, 23 December 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Folk Tale World ==<br /> <br /> I created the page [[Folk Tale World]] i'm bad at writing whole articles, so anyone be my guest.<br /> <br /> :Shouldn't this be more properly called "Folky Tale World" or "Folky Tale Town"? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Ropes and Dopes==<br /> <br /> I'm not sure if the "ropes are for dopes" comment should be kept in the remarks section (at least how it is). Although when people start a story with a quote, the quote is in the story, that is not always true. Maybe it should be in trivia. -[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 05:16, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :It seems like a remark to me. I find it odd that he used the quote as a transition to tell his story and then never mentioned it in the story itself. He used "passing out for the rest of their lives" to transition back to the rope. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:35, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Rope-a-Dope==<br /> All this talk of ropes and dopes makes me think of Ali's "[[Wikipedia:Rope-a-dope|rope-a-dope]]" strategy vs. George Foreman. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05:32, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Homsar's line==<br /> <br /> Any idea what Homsar is saying? The best I can make out is "I dazzle men," but that's only a guess. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:00, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :Did he say something about a "mayor?"<br /> :: It's possible. I'm pretty sure I hear a "dazzle", at the very least, but it's hard to tell. I know he's saying ''something'' and don't feel right leaving it as "''{muffled speech}''." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:31, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Sounds like he says "I'm flying with the birds"<br /> <br /> I'm pretty sure he says "I'm a climbable man..."--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 06:43, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :First I heard "I'm a rectangular man" (Which is lined up cinely with his hat) But now it's more like "I'm a (something)able man". {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:53, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Someone just suggested "I'm a powerful man!" At first, I deleted it. After listening more closely, I'm pretty sure that's it. I put it back into the transcript that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hey I heard "I'm a powerfull man" too. It really sounds like that. We can't be sure.<br /> <br /> :::Maybe next week's QotW will reveal all! ;) -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Sounds to me like "I'm a talented man. - Lord-Z<br /> <br /> :Either "I'm an admirable man" or "I'm a climbable man" is what I think. -Eternal<br /> <br /> ::Looks like someone changed it back to "muffled". Obviously we're not hearing the same thing. Any bets that next week's QotW clears this up? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:37, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Only if TBC are going to read this talk page... {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 15:43, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I personally think it's "I'm square with the man", kinda inspired by the way his hat moves. I guess we really can't say though.. Heh. -[[User:Mick|Mick]]<br /> <br /> I think he says "I'm an honorable man" but climbable makes sense. - [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master doesn't have weird squiggly things on this computer.]]<br /> <br /> :I think it might be something about Dazzle-Mazing, which could be a reference to [[Happy Fireworks]].<br /> <br /> I always heard "I'm hardly the man." -Kvb<br /> <br /> I definitely hear, "I'm a -----able man," or something very similar. Let's wait and see.<br /> :Yeah, "-----able man" is definitely what I heard. -Eman. <br /> I think it's: "am a miserable man" -[[Eh steve 2000]]<br /> <br /> Something like "I'm man with a man". Before blamming this, be sure to keep in mind that nothing Homsar says has to make sense. Unless scripted.<br /> <br /> Sounds like, "I'm a climbable man." to me! -20X6 GEM<br /> <br /> I hear "climbable man" too, but thats just me. Maybe we could make a footnote for it.<br /> --[[User:Stong Bad|Stong Bad]] 01:36, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> After several reviews, all I can hear now is "I'm a ''hangable'' man." I mean, after all, Homsar is hanging from something. It is important to note I'm not suggesting that he's implying he's being lynched - it's more in the spirit of the lame fill-in-the-blanks game "Hangman." And yes, I realize "hangable" ain't good English, neither. {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}}14:53, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I definitely hear "I'm an honorable man"; the n sound in honorable is rather distinct. It seems more in character for him to say "I'm an honorable mention", however. Of course, Matt could just be holding a rope in his own mouth and mumbling nonsense. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]<br /> <br /> I email them so we will know soon [[Eh steve 2000]]<br /> <br /> I hear "I'm a reliable man." I only played the Easter Egg like 4 times though. Also climable could work because of the rope. [[User:Catman87]]<br /> <br /> My bet is on "I'm the Haddi-Man". Since we all agree on "I'm" and "man" what better word can fit than Haddi? As we all know, Haddi-Man is Homesar in the children's TV show, [[Whaddaya_Know%2C_Haddi-Man%3F]]...[[User:VL-Tone|VL-Tone]] 07:40, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I hear "I'm a huggable man" or "I'm a lovable man". -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|<font color=DC143C>MK and/or BurnBox</font>]] 03:05, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm positive he's saying "I'm elephant man," seeing as that's the line Coach Z just said. [[socetew]]<br /> <br /> I heard "I will go out with a man".<br /> <br /> I heard, "I'm the elephant maaaaan." But then Homsar would be making sense by making fun of Strong Sad! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:34, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I heard "I'm half a man"- which would make sense because only half of him is on screen. -tuesrig<br /> <br /> I say I heard "I'm the lyrical plan"<br /> <br /> I believe he said "I'm a magical man" -- [[User:EMJS|EMJS]]<br /> <br /> What about "I'm a sad little man"? I deffinitely heard the word "Little" in there.<br /> <br /> :He could just be mumbling. --[[User:Sam Goldfish|Sam Goldfish]] 20:49, 18 October 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> LOL&mdash;this is a monument to Homsar's ability to speak to all. (In like, a couple different languages, even!) Sure, a lot of the 'toons engender differences in what people hear, but there are usually only two opinions, and close, amplified listening proves one. Here, I count '''21''' different interpretations, all by people listening to the ''same'' line! Maybe it's kind of an auditory [[Wikipedia:Rorschach inkblot test|Rorschach test]]... &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:36, 1 November 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Truly, this line of Homsar (which is still "I'm a hangable man" as far as I'm concerned) is what one wants it to be. There will ''never'' be a consensus, much like it cannot be proven that gravity exists. Go ahead, I dare you.  &mdash; {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 15:03, 1 December 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I listened closely, and heard the "b" in "able" more like a "th". I hear "I admire the man". That's the only thing I ear. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:38, 23 December 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : I hear "I am one with the ??". ''[[User:Maggot Man|<font color="Blue">Maggot Man</font>]] ''([[User talk:Maggot Man|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 20:38, 14 June 2006 (UTC)''<br /> <br /> From what I could make out, he says "I'm Round and Round"... [[User:KKyuubi|KKyuubi]] 14:06, 27 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> He's definitely saying something; it's not just mumbling. I can make out VERY CLEARLY, "I'm an ????? man", and having listened to it over and over, the third word is either "honorable" or "horrible", and it sounds more like "honorable" to me. Note that this isn't complete nonsense (IMO Complete nonsense is something like "The flying kitties ate my supper!"), but a normal phrase, just out of context, like most of his lines. {{User:Raised by Coffee/sig}} 22:23, 12 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Actually, you'd be surprised at how often his lines make sense. See [[Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> :Hmmm, I hear "Pie is my whistle man". As AbdiViklas pointed out a few paragraphs before, everybody is hearing something else, and we'll most likely not agree on anything in this case.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:36, 12 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yes- I meant to say that his line does make sense but is out of context, like most of his lines. I've edited my post to make it clearer....{{User:Raised by Coffee/sig}} 22:56, 12 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Martbell ==<br /> <br /> Could this be some nod at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Bell Art Bell]? Those weird "dancing brothers" sure fit in with that hypothesis.<br /> <br /> Haha or maybe not. I just wanted to have this on here because that's what it made me think of. [[User:64.164.69.221|64.164.69.221]] 11:36, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> It definately sounds like something Art would do. His guest would be Glenn (Whom?) and the product would be the Killer Dynamo.<br /> <br /> == Old Intro? ==<br /> <br /> :When Saddy Dumpington walks through the field and is silhouetted by the sun, could it be a reference to [[Old Intro 2]]? Should I add this to Inside References or STUFF or what? I'm new at this. - Eternal<br /> ::There's many other instances of characters silhouetted against the sun. - [[User:Alcnolien|Alcnolien]]<br /> <br /> ==Jargle=Gargle?==<br /> Another instance of "G-pronounced-J"? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:12, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :I don't think so. It seems to be a mutation of the word "jargon." &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:15, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Jargon? I've heard "gargle" used in the sense of "nonesense" or "gobbledygook". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:19, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :I think it's a mangling of "gibberish" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:51, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I think that we should add this as a fact and add this to [[G]] {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:33, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Look? ==<br /> <br /> I don't know if my speakers are broken or what, but I hear something different for Strong Sad's first line. It sounds ambigously explicit to me. I certainly don't hear "Look," as indicated on the transcript, and I seem to hear a bit of an F sound. Does anybody else hear what I (kinda) hear?<br /> : If you're implying what I think you're implying, then no. TBC have made it clear that any language more foul than "crap" is not to appear on homestarrunner.com. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:14, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> : PS. Maybe you're hearing the "S" at the end of Coach Z's "times" (which is ungrammatical, but Coach Z makes the ''very same mistake'' earlier in the same line, so...) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:19, 23 Aug 2005 <br /> :I think I heard SS say something like "flook".<br /> (UTC)<br /> :I do hear the "F" word, but I don't think that's what TBC had in mind. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:45, 18 November 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Are Infintesimally Small Imperfections Really Goofs?==<br /> I think it's a very bad idea to set the precedent that very very small color differences are somehow goofs worth noting. I'm sure if we looked hard enough, we could find numerous "goofs" of that sort in every single cartoon. It's my opinion that goofs worth noting involve continuity mistakes in either the story line or gross features of the artwork, not some miniscule color differences in a tiny 50 square pixel area of the frame. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:30, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :I dunno. This one I find kinda interesting. TBC have been making toons for a while now. They're not what you would call novices. They have the tools and the talent to get it right at this stage of the game. It's not like those old ''Scooby-Doo'' cartoons. You know, where the trap door stands out because it's painted in a slightly different color of blue from the rest of the floor. In that case, the door and the floor were created using two completely different means, so it was almost impossible to get right. In the case of this toon, however, getting the color right should just have been a matter of selecting the eyedropper tool and choosing the background. I do agree with you that we have to draw a line somewhere, though. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:38, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::Here's a description of the alleged goof: "the green is only 1/128 different. I had to zoom WAY in to be sure of this." Apart from being a good observation, is this really this level of "perfection" that we should expect from H*R? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:40, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I don't think we expect perfection (what we expect is beside the point). The fact is that it should have been one color (#007E00), and instead it was another (#008000). That's the very definition of a goof. The difference is ever so slight, true, but once it's pointed out, it's very obvious, at least to me. This project is a complete chronicle of H*R. I think any fact should be included that is so easily verifiable. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:50, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I understand what you're saying. I think we both agree that there is a limit to what should reasonably be noted. I just happen to think that this one lies outside that limit. I'm a little concerned that this'll set a precedent that'll send all the 12 year-olds off combing every frame at high-zoom looking for "goofs". ;)-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:58, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Wait, can you STUFF a goof?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 18:47, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yes, goofs can be STUFF'd. But if we do, we need to be careful. We need to make it absolutely clear that the decision on this fact has the potential to set precedent, whether we accept it or decline it. Another possibility would be to have a discussion in a more central location, like [[HRWiki_talk:Standards]], to decide just where the line on goofs should be. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:54, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> This is ''not'' infintessimally small. It's not blaringly obvious, but it's clearly visible without zooming in if you know to look for it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:17, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :And relating to this, I didn't even have to look. It's obvious to anyone sailing their eyes about the screen, and I know I was sure of the error without zooming in for a better look. Even if one doesn't see the green, the imperfection in the line, as well as the discolouration, is easily noticed. It's not infintesimally small, as was said, it's rather obvious that there's a discolouration in line and lawn. And relating to the Scooby-Doo point, yes, there may have been a more brightly coloured trapdoor against a darker floor, BUT both shades were not present on either object of the two, whereas here we have what should be an outright solid fill, interrupted. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 20:12, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: The reason why we could see trapdoors in Scooby-Doo is because of how cartoons were made in the old days. The background was hand painted on some paper or cardboard, then, celluloids with painted characters were overlaid on top of it and animated. The background was not animated, except for panning and zooming. The paint used on cells was different and had different reflectivity index than the background. The background also had more texture and shadowing than the animated parts on cells, which were painted with uniform, unshaded colors. So that made the traps on walls and the floor very obvious. You could also guess when a statue, supposedly in the background, would suddenly start to move :) [[User:VL-Tone|VL-Tone]] 08:03, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Hay!==<br /> <br /> A new toon! Is it good, I have yet to see it? -[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 18:46, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Champo.. The HR Wiki-ers were all over this toon like white on rice... It was up for 10 seconds before the page started to take form.. in the matter of 3 hrs. It was done, waiting for an official title... I was amazed.. It was like a bunch a little carpenters building a skycraper in like 5 minutes...--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 18:51, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> What the bleep are you talking about? I just saw it and the statements you made make no scence? Whater you speeching aboot?<br /> <br /> I think he was saying that indeed, it is good, and you need only look at the Wiki (or go to the forum thread) to find that out. [[User:71.115.224.254|71.115.224.254]] 07:02, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Coach X? Coach Y? ==<br /> <br /> Any thoughts on Coaches X and Y? <br /> Could they be related to Coach Z?<br /> Will we hear of them again? --[[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]] 19:29, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :Knowing TBC, I expect to see some sketches or cameo appearances in the future. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:27, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> : Whatcha think they'll look like?<br /> <br /> I wouldn't be surprised if they were made up by Coach Z, in an attempt to act like he has friends. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]<br /> <br /> After all, there is [[Coach Zed]], and Coach "Backwards N." --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 03:23, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I think he was just using those names as a metaphor for any other average person. [[User:SA2Tails|SA2Tails]] 00:13, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Title Screen ==<br /> <br /> Yes, there is one, and this is it.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 19:48, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC) [[Image:saddy title screen.png|thumb|Title Screen]]<br /> :Is that really the toon's title screen, or the title screen of the beginning of Saddy Dumpington's toon? I think it is the latter, making it not title screen to the toon, and also making this big toon titleless.<br /> :: Yes, it is. The rope climbing bit is only an intro to the Saddy Dumpington 'toon; Saddy Dumpington is the true star of this one. It's a [[Wikipedia:cold open|cold open]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:17, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::: The real debate is if it is a cold open or not. I don't believe it is, I believe the toon is Strong Sad telling the story to Coach Z, and not the story itself. I believe this because of the commentary on the story (The Dancing Brothers for example).<br /> ::::Even if you don't consider the cold open to be a cold open, the fact that there may be no title shown still isn't that notable. None of the last three big toons have had credits to speak of. TBC seem to have moved away from full credits for a while (probably won't be until Halloween until we see any again, if then). &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:54, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::::: But this is the first toon to have no title at all. The other toons had a title, this one just jumps into the action. I doubt they will ever include credits if this is the path they are going for.<br /> <br /> == The Lake ==<br /> <br /> It might be just me, but when I saw the lake in this toon, it reminded me of the pebble lake from peasant's quest. I'm not sure if we should really put it in there though.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 20:38, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I heard him ==<br /> <br /> I thought I heard Homsar say "I'm the lyrical plan" Did anyone else? -Kinsey<br /> : I think everybody heard something different; see ''"Homsar's line"'' section above --[[User:Fig Laser|Fig Laser]] 23:46, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> I thought I heard him say"Irm a Pwerfull Mrn!" Which sounded to me like "I'm a powerfull man!" Anyone else hear this?<br /> I thought I heard "I'm Gone with the Wind".<br /> <br /> == new page? ==<br /> <br /> Should we have a page on that girl in the beginning?<br /> <br /> I would say no. She's an even more minor character than the mayor. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 18:12, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == First time?... ==<br /> <br /> Is it just me or is this the first time there've been two full-length cartoons released a week between? Certainly that's notable... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:47, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :I sense a Toons DVD coming somewhere on the horizon (Probably with the first 10 of TGS and Marzipan's Answering Machine Included). That would make the most sense. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:31, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::I proposed that we make the quick turn around a fun fact for the toon. be sure to vote on it. --[[User:Fig Laser|Fig Laser]] 23:43, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::I hope they continue making DVD versions of toons on the site. I love the commentary on the first two. I hope a toons DVD doesn't eliminate any online commentary. I'd rather believe TBC is just bored of constant SB E-Mails and would like to strech their creativity. Notice the lack of Strong Bad?<br /> ::::I do notice. And honestly, I'm vera happy! I mean, I think SB is awexome, but there was just too much! I was thinking the site was gonna be renamed StrongBad.com! 8-P [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:39, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==vandilism==<br /> when i clicked on "homsar filmography" and theres a vandil that says sb e-mail interview is sb e-mail juifsdh it says juifsdh on the top of the page!i'm not in the troll comitty but can someone change this?<br /> <br /> ''You can change it yourself. This is a wiki; anyone can edit it.''<br /> <br /> == Isn't that Great? ==<br /> <br /> Sorry, I was a tad bored. Who else loved this one? I sure did! (Being a creepy Strong Sad fan.) - [[User:Brittany|Brittany]] - "What's a Gothling?"<br /> <br /> hehe. Strong Sad is my favorite character, as well, so yes, I loved this cartoon. As an aside, I only really like the newer Strong Sad, as the old one was '''way''' too whiny and depressing. The present-day Strong Sad almost seems to want to crack a smile at times, which is good to see. - [[User:Bruce|Bruce]]<br /> <br /> Deffenately. Strong Sad is my favorite character, too, but most people don't like him very much. Or, they love him, but they don't want to say it! - [[User:Brittany|Brittany]]<br /> <br /> Strong Sad seems to be showing a bit of his brother's violent streak, or at least Strong Bad's tendancy to abuse characters. Poor Dancing Brothers.... Abused like the TGS before you.... -[[User:Alcnolien|Alcnolien]]<br /> <br /> Oh, I love Strong Sad, and I admit it...too much...I have his figurine on my bedside table and I love wearing his T-Shirt.<br /> <br /> == Which field ==<br /> The article claims the location is [[The Athletic Field]], but I believe it's [[The Field]] instead -- the difference being the trees (bushes?) in the background. Maybe given that [[Coach Z]] is involved, it makes sense that it would be the Athletic field instead, but the look is certainly that of the plain old Field. Maybe this is a goof?<br /> <br /> :I used to think the same thing. I even went so far as to change it, until I realized that, like everything in Free Country, USA, the Athletic Field's appearance has changed over the years. Once a very bright green and quite cartoony, it has now taken on the characteristics of the Field. In fact, according to Bubs' Yearbook Page (and supported by [[different town]], if it can be trusted), the Athletic Field is very close to the concession stand, which actually puts it ''in'' the Field. So... you're partially right, but it's more accurate to say the action happens in the Athletic Field. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:45, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thy Dungeonman Reference ==<br /> <br /> Hey everyone,<br /> <br /> First I want to say how useful and interesting this site is! It seems to have everything you'd want to know about homestarrunner.com and more...<br /> <br /> I recently added an edit to Inside References, noting that one of the lines that Coach Z says seems to come from the Videlectrix game "Thy Dungeonman". Coach Z says "Never you mind" to Strong Sad, which is also the reply that you would get from "Thy Dungeonman" if you type "Get Flask". Does anyone else think that it is a valid connection? The edit was deleted, and I'm just curious to see what other people might think.<br /> : It's too generic. It may not be as common as "never mind", but it ''has'' been heard in contexts that have nothing to do with, or even predate, Thy Dungeonman. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:59, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :: Well, since I was the one who deleted it, I ''was'' going to explain myself. Turns out my reasoning is the same as Jay's. But welcome to the wiki, Anonymous, and I'm glad you like it here. Have you considered [[Special:Userlogin|registering a username]]? &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:03, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::Thanks for the replies! I don't think I'll register yet, but I still think this is a great site!<br /> <br /> == Homsar hanging ==<br /> I see a resemblance to Homsar's character page. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:06, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> :I know what you mean, but I don't consider that notable enough to point it out here. However, I can see it being put on Homsar's wiki page. "Homsar has the peculiar ability to defy gravity at a whim, as seen in the toon "A Folky Tale" and his character page." Yeah...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:44, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Closed Stuff ==<br /> <br /> {{stuffcloseddecline}}<br /> === Gonna have a good STUFF tonight! ===<br /> {{stufffact|The song The Dancing Brothers sing is very similar to a part of the theme song for the 1970s TV show [[Wikipedia:Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids|Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids]].}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|18:34, 8 February 2006 (UTC)|23:46, 15 February 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|14|2|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffcloseddecline}}<br /> === I like the Sprite in you ===<br /> {{stufffact|When Strong Sad pretends to faint, his body is in the same exact position as when he passes out in email 91 caffeine, including mouth, body, hand, and foot position.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|21:00, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)|21:02, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|14|3|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffclosedaccept}}<br /> === Ropes are for dopes ===<br /> {{stufffact|Strong Sad says that "Ropes are for dopes" is a quote from the legendary folk hero he made up, but neither ropes nor dopes are mentioned in the story itself.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|05:37, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)|05:37, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)|accepted|34|26|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffcloseddecline}}<br /> === Talkin' 'bout crazy cool medallions ===<br /> {{stufffact|The Dancing Brothers' style of singing and dancing resembles the style of another group of brothers, The Bee Gees.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|13:44, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)|17:05, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)|declined|9|1|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffcloseddecline}}<br /> === Kinda depressing, ain't it? ===<br /> {{stufffact|The Dancing Brothers bear a striking resemblance to the circle-face characters seen in ads for [http://www.zoloft.com Zoloft], a prescription anti-depressant drug.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|20:33, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)|05:40, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|13|1|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffcloseddecline}}<br /> === Weird Snake & Friends ===<br /> {{stufffact|The "Weird Snake" costume Saddy wore in the village is in the style of Barney the Purple Dinosaur from [[Wikipedia:Barney & Friends|Barney & Friends]], a TV show for kids.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|16:00, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)|03:02, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|17|4|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffclosedaccept}}<br /> === Main character absence ===<br /> {{stufffact|This is the first 'toon on Homestarrunner.com that features members of the main cast, but neither Homestar Runner nor Strong Bad make an appearance.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|06:58, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)|08:15, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)|accepted in a landslide|22|4|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> == rasmoH ==<br /> <br /> Interesting glitch in the flash file. If you re-size your browser window at the end to see all of Homsar, the letters on his shirt are right side up, but backwards. Isn't that great? (sorry, couldn't resist.)--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:01, 2 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Fat Albert? ==<br /> <br /> The song The Dancing Brothers sing is very similar to a part of the theme song for the 1970's TV show [[Wikipedia:Fat Albert|Fat Albert]]. Does anyone else agree?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 18:28, 8 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> *Hold on... I'll stuff it--{{User:Benol/sig}} 18:29, 8 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Worth Mentioning? ==<br /> <br /> I was think about it:<br /> The easter egg showing homsar holding the rope really created more questions than it answered as to what the rope attached to. Namely:<br /> <br /> * Can Homsar support the weight of strong sad with his mouth? (did he think he could?, did he think at all?)<br /> <br /> * Did Coach Z give the rope to him to hold? did he see homsar there and bring the rope to him? Did he just find the rope hanging down and decide to have people climb it?<br /> <br /> * How is Homsar even there?<br /> <br /> Well I think the last one is answered.<br /> In Narrator we see him floating mid air in a brief clip of one of these "up coming movies" so it's possible that he just has the power to fly (mabye it's why his hat always flies off but returns) and so he simply flew up there and held the rope but just rarely uses this power (or at least of what we see of him)<br /> Worth mentioning?<br /> <br /> :While that is a good theory, we usually don't include stuff like this in articles because it's just speculation, which is unencyclopedic. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:56, 7 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Just keep in mind the description from [[Homsar|Homsar's character page]]: Homsar is nonsense incarnate. That's probably the only explanation anyone needs. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 05:21, 7 March 2006 (UTC)</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:A_Folky_Tale Talk:A Folky Tale 2006-08-12T22:57:06Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: /* Homsar's line */</p> <hr /> <div>== Physics ==<br /> <br /> ''If the laws of physics are the same in Free Country, USA as they are on the real earth, then the rope is only about 10 feet long.''<br /> <br /> If i dare to reveal my ignorance, can anyone explain/elaborate?<br /> And evidently, the rope is NOT 10 feet long as Strong Sad cannot see Homsar holding it<br /> Then again, since when does physic apply around Homsar?<br /> -[[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]]<br /> <br /> :The time it takes a pendulum to swing back and forth is the same regardless of its weight or density. It only depends on the strength of gravity and the length of the pendulum. So since the rope takes about 3.4 seconds to swing back and forth, it should be about ten feet long. But this fact keeps on being deleted, so it's probably not important. -[[User:Eman|Eman]]<br /> <br /> ::It's really not important how long the rope is, especially since you can still see the tops of the trees. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:07, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Who cares how long the rope is? thats not a very important part in the story. --[[User: Bubsty|Bubsty]]<br /> <br /> :::Strong Sad doesn't say he can't see homsar; He just says that he is "concerned about what that rope is attached to." Wouldn't you be concerned if Coach Z told you to climb a rope held up by homsar and nothing else?<br /> <br /> I should point out that the rope's ''center of mass'' should be at ten feet. The rope is therefore 20 feet long (assuming uniform density). Also, by counting ten periods while looking at my clock, the rope swings every 3.7 seconds, not 3.4 seconds which means it's 22 feet long if you trust some extra significant figures. Hooray for my first contribution!--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] Some time before I got my account.<br /> <br /> :Oh, come on, people. It might not be important, but it's kind of a fun fact to know that you can work out the length of the rope.<br /> <br /> ::I second that. I think we should take a vote.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 21:28, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::There's a pretty big discrepancy between 10 feet at the top and 22 feet two comments above. Which it it? (It's been a bit since my last physics class.) It's hard to vote on something when the figures don't even agree. Somebody show their work. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:43, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::For small angles, where <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''T''</span> is the period of one oscillation, <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span> is distance from the pivot to the centre of gravity of the pendulum, and <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''g''</span> is acceleration due to gravity, <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''T''</span> = 2<span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">&pi;</span>(<span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span>/<span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''g''</span>)<sup>1/2</sup>, and I think we can agree that the angles involved are small. So with <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''T''</span> = 3.7s and <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''g''</span> = 9.8ms<sup>-2</sup>, we get <br /> :::::<table CELLPADDING=4><tr><td ALIGN=RIGHT>3.7 s</td><td>=</td><td><table><tr><td>2<span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">&pi;</span></td><td><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:45px;line-height:50px;">(</span></td><td><table><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER COLSPAN="2" style="border-bottom:1px solid black"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER ROWSPAN="2">9.8</td><td ALIGN=CENTER style="border-bottom:1px solid black;line-height:8px"><small>m</small></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER style="line-height:15px"><small>s<sup>2</sup></small></td></tr></table></td><td><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:45px;line-height:50px;">)</span></td><td></td><td><sup>1/2</sup></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=RIGHT>0.59 s</td><td>=</td><td><table><tr><td><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:45px;line-height:50px;">(</span></td><td><table><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER COLSPAN="2" style="border-bottom:1px solid black"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER ROWSPAN="2">9.8</td><td ALIGN=CENTER style="border-bottom:1px solid black;line-height:12px"><small>m</small></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER style="line-height:15px"><small>s<sup>2</sup></small></td></tr></table></td><td><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:45px;line-height:50px;">)</span></td><td><sup>1/2</sup></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td>0.35 s<sup>2</sup></td><td>=</td><td><table><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER COLSPAN="2" style="border-bottom:1px solid black"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER ROWSPAN="2">9.8</td><td ALIGN=CENTER style="border-bottom:1px solid black;line-height:12px"><small>m</small></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER style="line-height:15px"><small>s<sup>2</sup></small></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=RIGHT><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span></td><td>=</td><td>3.4 m (about 11 ft)</td></tr></table><br /> ::::However this is the distance from the pivot to the centre of gravity - for a pendulum the centre of gravity is the weight on the end, but for a rope it's approximately in the middle, making the total length is 6.8m or 22ft. However this also assumes no air resistance, and with the small oscillations that the rope has meaning very little gravitational force, the air resistance would be significant. But taking air resistance into account would only make the estimation of the length shorter (to be specific: in an frictionless environment the rope would oscillate faster (duh) so applying the frictionless formula to that smaller number would make a smaller length).<br /> ::::BTW: Why don't <nowiki><math></math></nowiki> tags work here? {{User:phlip/sig}} 23:16, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::::Good work phlip. I just thought of something else we may be leaving out: would the movement of Homsar's head (which is shown ''not'' to be motionless in the egg) affect the movement of the rope? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:53, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Good point... yes, it would. Especially with the small motions that the rope goes through. However given how regularly it's swinging we can probably infer either Homsar is moving in time or he's stationary except during the egg. Either is speculation though. {{User:phlip/sig}} 23:57, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> [[Image:ropelength.png|thumb|10px|left]]<br /> I tried measuring the angle of the rope as it swings, to find out where the pivot actually is, it comes to about 9ft give or take a foot or so (assuming that the distance between each knot is about foot and a half - I took SS and Coach Z as being about 6ft tall as a base measurement and worked from there. Also it depends on the accuracy of the angle measurements - one pixel either way can have a foot or two different answer). So regardless of what should physically happen, that's the point the rope is animated pivoting around. {{User:phlip/sig}} 07:49, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :Hmm, I'm beginning to think that we might possibly be starting to go into a little bit more depth than TBC intended us to go for this swinging rope. {{User:phlip/sig}} 07:52, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::If air resistance had a significant effect, then the rope's oscillations would be decreasing in size. So air resistance is negligible. - [[User:Eman]]<br /> :::Yes, I discourage people from assuming the knots are a specific distance apart or that Coach Z is a specific height. Wasn't there lots of conflicting evidence about Strong Mad's height and weight? If Strong Mad weighs 9,990 pounds (I think that was one measurement taken from Marshmallow's Last Stand), then the proportions in Free Country, USA might be ridiculous. The bottom line is that if the physics of Free Country, USA is identical to our own, then the rope is 22 feet long. That's a pretty big "if", however-- maybe gravity is much weaker to accomodate such enormous characters! I still say we include it.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 18:56, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::::Nah, there's too much guesswork. You said yourself it's a pretty big "if". On the other hand, this discussion itself is an excellent resource that takes many possibilities into account, and it even has equations and illustrations. I think it covers the topic well, considering that the bottom line is that it's all quite a bit of speculation. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:08, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::::The reason why I like it is that the only presumption is that gravity accelerates objects at 9.8 meters per second squared. We don't have to guess anything about the height of Strong Sad or Coach Z or the distance between the knots, etc. We already know the characters have strange proportions. Hell, The Cheat doesn't even have a liver or anything! Why not use physics given that it's far more reliable? I see no reason why it can't be added as long as we make it clear that it relies on the assumption that gravity is still 9.8 m/s^2 in the Homestar universe.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 19:33, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::::::No speculation about it. The equation requires 2 things: the period and "g". What the heck! It's a Wiki: add it! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:16, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br style="clear:left" /><br /> :::::::What the heck! I added it! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:20, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> This calculation is complete crap. The formula for the period of a pendulum assumes a weight at the end of a massless string. This formula doesn't apply to massive ropes without weights on the end. The physics of the two situations is quite different, for example a hanging massive string makes a hyperbolic cosine while a weighted massive string makes a parabola.<br /> :Right you are, although the curving effect is insignificant. But, as you said, you can't assume all the weight is concentrated in one place.<br /> <br /> :For a pendulum with a complicated distribution of mass, such as a hanging rope, the period is<br /> ::T = 2π*sqrt[I/(mgh)],<br /> :where I is the rotational inertia of the pendulum about the pivot point, m is the total mass of the pendulum, and h is the distance from the pivot point to the center of mass. (For a simple pendulum of length L where all of the weight is concentrated at the end, I is equal to mL&sup2;, and h is equal to L. This yields the formula T = 2π*sqrt[L/g], which was used above.)<br /> <br /> :If we assume the mass of the rope is distributed evenly across its length, its rotational inertia is equal to<br /> ::I = 1/3*mL&sup2;,<br /> :and the center of mass is positioned halfway down the length of the rope, so<br /> ::h = 1/2*L.<br /> <br /> :Therefore, the period of oscillation of the rope is<br /> ::T = 2π*sqrt[(1/3*mL&sup2;)/(1/2*mgL)] = 2π*sqrt[2/3*L/g]. Note that the mass of the rope cancels, and again the equation depends only on the period, the length, and g (the acceleration of gravity).<br /> :So given a period of 3.7 seconds and an acceleration of gravity of 9.8 m/s&sup2;, we have<br /> ::3.7 s = 2π*sqrt[2/3*L/(9.8 m/s&sup2;)], which simplifies to:<br /> :::L = 5.1 m (about 17 ft).<br /> <br /> :In this calculation L is the total length of the pendulum, not the length to the center of mass (that’s h). So the total length of the pendulum is 17 ft (not 34 feet).<br /> <br /> :You can’t assume that all the mass of the rope is concentrated at the end, as you can for a simple pendulum: this gives an answer of 11 ft, which is too small. However, you also can’t assume that all the mass of the rope is concentrated at the center, as phlip did, giving an answer of 22 ft. Instead, you must realize that there is mass at the top, the center, and the end, and everywhere in between. Taking the distribution of mass of the rope into account, we get an answer between the two: 17 ft.<br /> <br /> :I know there are knots in the rope, but they are insignificant (unless there are lead weights in them.) Also, as the previous contributor rightly stated, a flexible rope pendulum will tend to curve as it oscillates. But for such small angles, this effect is also insignificant, and it doesn’t much change the center of mass or the rotational inertia. - [[User:Eman|Eman]]<br /> <br /> ::Though I haven't been able to come to the same conclusion from first principles, I found the equation you used in my physics text. I'm going to take Eman's word on this. I think he has come up with the correct answer and this can finally be put to rest. Great jorb, Eman! --[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 23:51, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Nice work, I didn't know about that generalised formula... though I should have remembered that it's not just the position of the centre of mass that matters for a rotating object. {{User:phlip/sig}} 00:29, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The mayor and Dancing bros. ==<br /> <br /> Where should we catagorize them? I like the Dancing bros. enough to make a page about them, but the mayor is just a guy.. with ... a job..?--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:20, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the Dancing Brothers, but I don't think an article about the mayor is a good idea. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 04:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Agreed--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I kinda agree, actully. The dancing Bros defianately need a page, but the mayor... i dunno. [[User:Bubsty|Bubsty]]<br /> <br /> The mayor actually doesn't say anything. He squeaks and Strong Sad says his words. [[User:Catman87]]<br /> <br /> == The Elephant Man ==<br /> <br /> May I add something about the realationship with how Puppet Homestar said that he looked like the elephant man on the DVD Puppet Stuff? --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:36, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> does it take two or three times to be mentioned as an inside joke? it depends on that i think--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:38, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> After research i think that the elphant man is obscure enough to be classified as an inside joke...--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:39, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> So, then what should I do? BTW, thanks! lol --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:41, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The elephant man hasn't ever really seemed obscure to me... Maybe to other people though. But all the same, in those two different contexts, it doesn't seem like an inside joke to me. If there was yet another reference to the elephant man after this, then I'd call it safe to classify it as an inside joke(or more appropriately, a running gag). --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]<br /> <br /> So can I put it in that homestar said it too atleast?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 20:35, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Linking Up==<br /> I think it would be a good idea to link Saddy Dumpington in the inside references section.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 04:40, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Saddy Dumpington's already linked at the top under Characters. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 04:42, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Roger. Sorry! I'm just excited to be helping a little bit with the new toon.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 04:44, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ^^I feel the same way. I'm trying to find something I can do!!! lol --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:45, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Shut up. --Der Pepper<br /> <br /> Der Pepper, comments like that will get you banned. <small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small> 18:59, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Who was he talking to?<br /> <br /> ==Linking to this article==<br /> Should we title the link as Saddy Dumpington (toon), or Saddy Dumpington. I prefer the latter because wherever the link is, people will be able to presue by the text that it is a cartoon.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 04:48, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Saddy Dumpington is already an article about the character.--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:49, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I know that, but I talking about using the | thing in the link. I've seen it before for toons.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 04:51, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I vote we should hold off on the desicion until it is on the toons page and then make the visible part of the link say whatever the toons page says.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 05:05, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> And now we know, "A Folky Tale." So much for that. --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]<br /> <br /> i 'gree<br /> == Article Name ==<br /> <br /> Why is this article not called "The Folky Tale of Saddy Dumpington"? That's what's on the title card. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:50, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> : I think the page should be moved as soon as the title appears on the 'Toons page (which it hasn't yet). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:53, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah, I agree. I won't be surprised if that above is the full title. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:08, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::"A Folky Tale." I was close. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]<br /> <br /> :::I agree with Dot com on this one. Why is the article named the way it is? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::::As "A Folky Tale," this is how it appears on the Toons menu. The question was asked when this page was called "Saddy Dumpington (toon)." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:11, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::D'oh! I'm not going to the main site enough! Thanks for clarifying! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:13, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::I do believe it is on the Toons page now! --[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 19:15, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Side issue: Should "The Folky Tale of Saddy Dumpington" be a redirect? I guess I could just make one, but... meh. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:19, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::its definately just called "A folky tale." end of disscussion.<br /> == lol ==<br /> <br /> I laughed my butt off at Jargle.. anyone else? Beuler?<br /> <br /> I laugh at Coach Z's accent all the time. I'm with ya there.<br /> :Jargle and turlet just crack me up here. Nice Ferris Beuler thing. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:31, 23 December 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Folk Tale World ==<br /> <br /> I created the page [[Folk Tale World]] i'm bad at writing whole articles, so anyone be my guest.<br /> <br /> :Shouldn't this be more properly called "Folky Tale World" or "Folky Tale Town"? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Ropes and Dopes==<br /> <br /> I'm not sure if the "ropes are for dopes" comment should be kept in the remarks section (at least how it is). Although when people start a story with a quote, the quote is in the story, that is not always true. Maybe it should be in trivia. -[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 05:16, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :It seems like a remark to me. I find it odd that he used the quote as a transition to tell his story and then never mentioned it in the story itself. He used "passing out for the rest of their lives" to transition back to the rope. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:35, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Rope-a-Dope==<br /> All this talk of ropes and dopes makes me think of Ali's "[[Wikipedia:Rope-a-dope|rope-a-dope]]" strategy vs. George Foreman. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05:32, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Homsar's line==<br /> <br /> Any idea what Homsar is saying? The best I can make out is "I dazzle men," but that's only a guess. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:00, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :Did he say something about a "mayor?"<br /> :: It's possible. I'm pretty sure I hear a "dazzle", at the very least, but it's hard to tell. I know he's saying ''something'' and don't feel right leaving it as "''{muffled speech}''." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:31, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Sounds like he says "I'm flying with the birds"<br /> <br /> I'm pretty sure he says "I'm a climbable man..."--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 06:43, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :First I heard "I'm a rectangular man" (Which is lined up cinely with his hat) But now it's more like "I'm a (something)able man". {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:53, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Someone just suggested "I'm a powerful man!" At first, I deleted it. After listening more closely, I'm pretty sure that's it. I put it back into the transcript that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hey I heard "I'm a powerfull man" too. It really sounds like that. We can't be sure.<br /> <br /> :::Maybe next week's QotW will reveal all! ;) -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Sounds to me like "I'm a talented man. - Lord-Z<br /> <br /> :Either "I'm an admirable man" or "I'm a climbable man" is what I think. -Eternal<br /> <br /> ::Looks like someone changed it back to "muffled". Obviously we're not hearing the same thing. Any bets that next week's QotW clears this up? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:37, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Only if TBC are going to read this talk page... {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 15:43, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I personally think it's "I'm square with the man", kinda inspired by the way his hat moves. I guess we really can't say though.. Heh. -[[User:Mick|Mick]]<br /> <br /> I think he says "I'm an honorable man" but climbable makes sense. - [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master doesn't have weird squiggly things on this computer.]]<br /> <br /> :I think it might be something about Dazzle-Mazing, which could be a reference to [[Happy Fireworks]].<br /> <br /> I always heard "I'm hardly the man." -Kvb<br /> <br /> I definitely hear, "I'm a -----able man," or something very similar. Let's wait and see.<br /> :Yeah, "-----able man" is definitely what I heard. -Eman. <br /> I think it's: "am a miserable man" -[[Eh steve 2000]]<br /> <br /> Something like "I'm man with a man". Before blamming this, be sure to keep in mind that nothing Homsar says has to make sense. Unless scripted.<br /> <br /> Sounds like, "I'm a climbable man." to me! -20X6 GEM<br /> <br /> I hear "climbable man" too, but thats just me. Maybe we could make a footnote for it.<br /> --[[User:Stong Bad|Stong Bad]] 01:36, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> After several reviews, all I can hear now is "I'm a ''hangable'' man." I mean, after all, Homsar is hanging from something. It is important to note I'm not suggesting that he's implying he's being lynched - it's more in the spirit of the lame fill-in-the-blanks game "Hangman." And yes, I realize "hangable" ain't good English, neither. {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}}14:53, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I definitely hear "I'm an honorable man"; the n sound in honorable is rather distinct. It seems more in character for him to say "I'm an honorable mention", however. Of course, Matt could just be holding a rope in his own mouth and mumbling nonsense. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]<br /> <br /> I email them so we will know soon [[Eh steve 2000]]<br /> <br /> I hear "I'm a reliable man." I only played the Easter Egg like 4 times though. Also climable could work because of the rope. [[User:Catman87]]<br /> <br /> My bet is on "I'm the Haddi-Man". Since we all agree on "I'm" and "man" what better word can fit than Haddi? As we all know, Haddi-Man is Homesar in the children's TV show, [[Whaddaya_Know%2C_Haddi-Man%3F]]...[[User:VL-Tone|VL-Tone]] 07:40, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I hear "I'm a huggable man" or "I'm a lovable man". -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|<font color=DC143C>MK and/or BurnBox</font>]] 03:05, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm positive he's saying "I'm elephant man," seeing as that's the line Coach Z just said. [[socetew]]<br /> <br /> I heard "I will go out with a man".<br /> <br /> I heard, "I'm the elephant maaaaan." But then Homsar would be making sense by making fun of Strong Sad! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:34, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I heard "I'm half a man"- which would make sense because only half of him is on screen. -tuesrig<br /> <br /> I say I heard "I'm the lyrical plan"<br /> <br /> I believe he said "I'm a magical man" -- [[User:EMJS|EMJS]]<br /> <br /> What about "I'm a sad little man"? I deffinitely heard the word "Little" in there.<br /> <br /> :He could just be mumbling. --[[User:Sam Goldfish|Sam Goldfish]] 20:49, 18 October 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> LOL&mdash;this is a monument to Homsar's ability to speak to all. (In like, a couple different languages, even!) Sure, a lot of the 'toons engender differences in what people hear, but there are usually only two opinions, and close, amplified listening proves one. Here, I count '''21''' different interpretations, all by people listening to the ''same'' line! Maybe it's kind of an auditory [[Wikipedia:Rorschach inkblot test|Rorschach test]]... &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:36, 1 November 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Truly, this line of Homsar (which is still "I'm a hangable man" as far as I'm concerned) is what one wants it to be. There will ''never'' be a consensus, much like it cannot be proven that gravity exists. Go ahead, I dare you.  &mdash; {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 15:03, 1 December 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I listened closely, and heard the "b" in "able" more like a "th". I hear "I admire the man". That's the only thing I ear. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:38, 23 December 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : I hear "I am one with the ??". ''[[User:Maggot Man|<font color="Blue">Maggot Man</font>]] ''([[User talk:Maggot Man|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 20:38, 14 June 2006 (UTC)''<br /> <br /> From what I could make out, he says "I'm Round and Round"... [[User:KKyuubi|KKyuubi]] 14:06, 27 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> He's definitely saying something; it's not just mumbling. I can make out VERY CLEARLY, "I'm an ????? man", and having listened to it over and over, the third word is either "honorable" or "horrible", and it sounds more like "honorable" to me. Note that this isn't complete nonsense (IMO Complete nonsense is something like "The flying kitties ate my supper!"), but a normal phrase, just out of context, like most of his lines. {{User:Raised by Coffee/sig}} 22:23, 12 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Actually, you'd be surprised at how often his lines make sense. See [[Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> :Hmmm, I hear "Pie is my whistle man". As AbdiViklas pointed out a few paragraphs before, everybody is hearing something else, and we'll most likely not agree on anything in this case.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:36, 12 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yes- I meant to say that his line does make sense but are out of context, like most of his lines. I've edited my post to make it clearer....{{User:Raised by Coffee/sig}} 22:56, 12 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Martbell ==<br /> <br /> Could this be some nod at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Bell Art Bell]? Those weird "dancing brothers" sure fit in with that hypothesis.<br /> <br /> Haha or maybe not. I just wanted to have this on here because that's what it made me think of. [[User:64.164.69.221|64.164.69.221]] 11:36, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> It definately sounds like something Art would do. His guest would be Glenn (Whom?) and the product would be the Killer Dynamo.<br /> <br /> == Old Intro? ==<br /> <br /> :When Saddy Dumpington walks through the field and is silhouetted by the sun, could it be a reference to [[Old Intro 2]]? Should I add this to Inside References or STUFF or what? I'm new at this. - Eternal<br /> ::There's many other instances of characters silhouetted against the sun. - [[User:Alcnolien|Alcnolien]]<br /> <br /> ==Jargle=Gargle?==<br /> Another instance of "G-pronounced-J"? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:12, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :I don't think so. It seems to be a mutation of the word "jargon." &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:15, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Jargon? I've heard "gargle" used in the sense of "nonesense" or "gobbledygook". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:19, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :I think it's a mangling of "gibberish" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:51, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I think that we should add this as a fact and add this to [[G]] {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:33, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Look? ==<br /> <br /> I don't know if my speakers are broken or what, but I hear something different for Strong Sad's first line. It sounds ambigously explicit to me. I certainly don't hear "Look," as indicated on the transcript, and I seem to hear a bit of an F sound. Does anybody else hear what I (kinda) hear?<br /> : If you're implying what I think you're implying, then no. TBC have made it clear that any language more foul than "crap" is not to appear on homestarrunner.com. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:14, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> : PS. Maybe you're hearing the "S" at the end of Coach Z's "times" (which is ungrammatical, but Coach Z makes the ''very same mistake'' earlier in the same line, so...) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:19, 23 Aug 2005 <br /> :I think I heard SS say something like "flook".<br /> (UTC)<br /> :I do hear the "F" word, but I don't think that's what TBC had in mind. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:45, 18 November 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Are Infintesimally Small Imperfections Really Goofs?==<br /> I think it's a very bad idea to set the precedent that very very small color differences are somehow goofs worth noting. I'm sure if we looked hard enough, we could find numerous "goofs" of that sort in every single cartoon. It's my opinion that goofs worth noting involve continuity mistakes in either the story line or gross features of the artwork, not some miniscule color differences in a tiny 50 square pixel area of the frame. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:30, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :I dunno. This one I find kinda interesting. TBC have been making toons for a while now. They're not what you would call novices. They have the tools and the talent to get it right at this stage of the game. It's not like those old ''Scooby-Doo'' cartoons. You know, where the trap door stands out because it's painted in a slightly different color of blue from the rest of the floor. In that case, the door and the floor were created using two completely different means, so it was almost impossible to get right. In the case of this toon, however, getting the color right should just have been a matter of selecting the eyedropper tool and choosing the background. I do agree with you that we have to draw a line somewhere, though. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:38, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::Here's a description of the alleged goof: "the green is only 1/128 different. I had to zoom WAY in to be sure of this." Apart from being a good observation, is this really this level of "perfection" that we should expect from H*R? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:40, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I don't think we expect perfection (what we expect is beside the point). The fact is that it should have been one color (#007E00), and instead it was another (#008000). That's the very definition of a goof. The difference is ever so slight, true, but once it's pointed out, it's very obvious, at least to me. This project is a complete chronicle of H*R. I think any fact should be included that is so easily verifiable. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:50, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I understand what you're saying. I think we both agree that there is a limit to what should reasonably be noted. I just happen to think that this one lies outside that limit. I'm a little concerned that this'll set a precedent that'll send all the 12 year-olds off combing every frame at high-zoom looking for "goofs". ;)-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:58, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Wait, can you STUFF a goof?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 18:47, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yes, goofs can be STUFF'd. But if we do, we need to be careful. We need to make it absolutely clear that the decision on this fact has the potential to set precedent, whether we accept it or decline it. Another possibility would be to have a discussion in a more central location, like [[HRWiki_talk:Standards]], to decide just where the line on goofs should be. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:54, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> This is ''not'' infintessimally small. It's not blaringly obvious, but it's clearly visible without zooming in if you know to look for it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:17, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :And relating to this, I didn't even have to look. It's obvious to anyone sailing their eyes about the screen, and I know I was sure of the error without zooming in for a better look. Even if one doesn't see the green, the imperfection in the line, as well as the discolouration, is easily noticed. It's not infintesimally small, as was said, it's rather obvious that there's a discolouration in line and lawn. And relating to the Scooby-Doo point, yes, there may have been a more brightly coloured trapdoor against a darker floor, BUT both shades were not present on either object of the two, whereas here we have what should be an outright solid fill, interrupted. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 20:12, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: The reason why we could see trapdoors in Scooby-Doo is because of how cartoons were made in the old days. The background was hand painted on some paper or cardboard, then, celluloids with painted characters were overlaid on top of it and animated. The background was not animated, except for panning and zooming. The paint used on cells was different and had different reflectivity index than the background. The background also had more texture and shadowing than the animated parts on cells, which were painted with uniform, unshaded colors. So that made the traps on walls and the floor very obvious. You could also guess when a statue, supposedly in the background, would suddenly start to move :) [[User:VL-Tone|VL-Tone]] 08:03, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Hay!==<br /> <br /> A new toon! Is it good, I have yet to see it? -[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 18:46, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Champo.. The HR Wiki-ers were all over this toon like white on rice... It was up for 10 seconds before the page started to take form.. in the matter of 3 hrs. It was done, waiting for an official title... I was amazed.. It was like a bunch a little carpenters building a skycraper in like 5 minutes...--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 18:51, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> What the bleep are you talking about? I just saw it and the statements you made make no scence? Whater you speeching aboot?<br /> <br /> I think he was saying that indeed, it is good, and you need only look at the Wiki (or go to the forum thread) to find that out. [[User:71.115.224.254|71.115.224.254]] 07:02, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Coach X? Coach Y? ==<br /> <br /> Any thoughts on Coaches X and Y? <br /> Could they be related to Coach Z?<br /> Will we hear of them again? --[[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]] 19:29, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :Knowing TBC, I expect to see some sketches or cameo appearances in the future. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:27, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> : Whatcha think they'll look like?<br /> <br /> I wouldn't be surprised if they were made up by Coach Z, in an attempt to act like he has friends. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]<br /> <br /> After all, there is [[Coach Zed]], and Coach "Backwards N." --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 03:23, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I think he was just using those names as a metaphor for any other average person. [[User:SA2Tails|SA2Tails]] 00:13, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Title Screen ==<br /> <br /> Yes, there is one, and this is it.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 19:48, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC) [[Image:saddy title screen.png|thumb|Title Screen]]<br /> :Is that really the toon's title screen, or the title screen of the beginning of Saddy Dumpington's toon? I think it is the latter, making it not title screen to the toon, and also making this big toon titleless.<br /> :: Yes, it is. The rope climbing bit is only an intro to the Saddy Dumpington 'toon; Saddy Dumpington is the true star of this one. It's a [[Wikipedia:cold open|cold open]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:17, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::: The real debate is if it is a cold open or not. I don't believe it is, I believe the toon is Strong Sad telling the story to Coach Z, and not the story itself. I believe this because of the commentary on the story (The Dancing Brothers for example).<br /> ::::Even if you don't consider the cold open to be a cold open, the fact that there may be no title shown still isn't that notable. None of the last three big toons have had credits to speak of. TBC seem to have moved away from full credits for a while (probably won't be until Halloween until we see any again, if then). &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:54, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::::: But this is the first toon to have no title at all. The other toons had a title, this one just jumps into the action. I doubt they will ever include credits if this is the path they are going for.<br /> <br /> == The Lake ==<br /> <br /> It might be just me, but when I saw the lake in this toon, it reminded me of the pebble lake from peasant's quest. I'm not sure if we should really put it in there though.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 20:38, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I heard him ==<br /> <br /> I thought I heard Homsar say "I'm the lyrical plan" Did anyone else? -Kinsey<br /> : I think everybody heard something different; see ''"Homsar's line"'' section above --[[User:Fig Laser|Fig Laser]] 23:46, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> I thought I heard him say"Irm a Pwerfull Mrn!" Which sounded to me like "I'm a powerfull man!" Anyone else hear this?<br /> I thought I heard "I'm Gone with the Wind".<br /> <br /> == new page? ==<br /> <br /> Should we have a page on that girl in the beginning?<br /> <br /> I would say no. She's an even more minor character than the mayor. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 18:12, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == First time?... ==<br /> <br /> Is it just me or is this the first time there've been two full-length cartoons released a week between? Certainly that's notable... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:47, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :I sense a Toons DVD coming somewhere on the horizon (Probably with the first 10 of TGS and Marzipan's Answering Machine Included). That would make the most sense. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:31, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::I proposed that we make the quick turn around a fun fact for the toon. be sure to vote on it. --[[User:Fig Laser|Fig Laser]] 23:43, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::I hope they continue making DVD versions of toons on the site. I love the commentary on the first two. I hope a toons DVD doesn't eliminate any online commentary. I'd rather believe TBC is just bored of constant SB E-Mails and would like to strech their creativity. Notice the lack of Strong Bad?<br /> ::::I do notice. And honestly, I'm vera happy! I mean, I think SB is awexome, but there was just too much! I was thinking the site was gonna be renamed StrongBad.com! 8-P [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:39, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==vandilism==<br /> when i clicked on "homsar filmography" and theres a vandil that says sb e-mail interview is sb e-mail juifsdh it says juifsdh on the top of the page!i'm not in the troll comitty but can someone change this?<br /> <br /> ''You can change it yourself. This is a wiki; anyone can edit it.''<br /> <br /> == Isn't that Great? ==<br /> <br /> Sorry, I was a tad bored. Who else loved this one? I sure did! (Being a creepy Strong Sad fan.) - [[User:Brittany|Brittany]] - "What's a Gothling?"<br /> <br /> hehe. Strong Sad is my favorite character, as well, so yes, I loved this cartoon. As an aside, I only really like the newer Strong Sad, as the old one was '''way''' too whiny and depressing. The present-day Strong Sad almost seems to want to crack a smile at times, which is good to see. - [[User:Bruce|Bruce]]<br /> <br /> Deffenately. Strong Sad is my favorite character, too, but most people don't like him very much. Or, they love him, but they don't want to say it! - [[User:Brittany|Brittany]]<br /> <br /> Strong Sad seems to be showing a bit of his brother's violent streak, or at least Strong Bad's tendancy to abuse characters. Poor Dancing Brothers.... Abused like the TGS before you.... -[[User:Alcnolien|Alcnolien]]<br /> <br /> Oh, I love Strong Sad, and I admit it...too much...I have his figurine on my bedside table and I love wearing his T-Shirt.<br /> <br /> == Which field ==<br /> The article claims the location is [[The Athletic Field]], but I believe it's [[The Field]] instead -- the difference being the trees (bushes?) in the background. Maybe given that [[Coach Z]] is involved, it makes sense that it would be the Athletic field instead, but the look is certainly that of the plain old Field. Maybe this is a goof?<br /> <br /> :I used to think the same thing. I even went so far as to change it, until I realized that, like everything in Free Country, USA, the Athletic Field's appearance has changed over the years. Once a very bright green and quite cartoony, it has now taken on the characteristics of the Field. In fact, according to Bubs' Yearbook Page (and supported by [[different town]], if it can be trusted), the Athletic Field is very close to the concession stand, which actually puts it ''in'' the Field. So... you're partially right, but it's more accurate to say the action happens in the Athletic Field. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:45, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thy Dungeonman Reference ==<br /> <br /> Hey everyone,<br /> <br /> First I want to say how useful and interesting this site is! It seems to have everything you'd want to know about homestarrunner.com and more...<br /> <br /> I recently added an edit to Inside References, noting that one of the lines that Coach Z says seems to come from the Videlectrix game "Thy Dungeonman". Coach Z says "Never you mind" to Strong Sad, which is also the reply that you would get from "Thy Dungeonman" if you type "Get Flask". Does anyone else think that it is a valid connection? The edit was deleted, and I'm just curious to see what other people might think.<br /> : It's too generic. It may not be as common as "never mind", but it ''has'' been heard in contexts that have nothing to do with, or even predate, Thy Dungeonman. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:59, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :: Well, since I was the one who deleted it, I ''was'' going to explain myself. Turns out my reasoning is the same as Jay's. But welcome to the wiki, Anonymous, and I'm glad you like it here. Have you considered [[Special:Userlogin|registering a username]]? &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:03, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::Thanks for the replies! I don't think I'll register yet, but I still think this is a great site!<br /> <br /> == Homsar hanging ==<br /> I see a resemblance to Homsar's character page. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:06, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> :I know what you mean, but I don't consider that notable enough to point it out here. However, I can see it being put on Homsar's wiki page. "Homsar has the peculiar ability to defy gravity at a whim, as seen in the toon "A Folky Tale" and his character page." Yeah...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:44, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Closed Stuff ==<br /> <br /> {{stuffcloseddecline}}<br /> === Gonna have a good STUFF tonight! ===<br /> {{stufffact|The song The Dancing Brothers sing is very similar to a part of the theme song for the 1970s TV show [[Wikipedia:Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids|Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids]].}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|18:34, 8 February 2006 (UTC)|23:46, 15 February 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|14|2|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffcloseddecline}}<br /> === I like the Sprite in you ===<br /> {{stufffact|When Strong Sad pretends to faint, his body is in the same exact position as when he passes out in email 91 caffeine, including mouth, body, hand, and foot position.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|21:00, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)|21:02, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|14|3|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffclosedaccept}}<br /> === Ropes are for dopes ===<br /> {{stufffact|Strong Sad says that "Ropes are for dopes" is a quote from the legendary folk hero he made up, but neither ropes nor dopes are mentioned in the story itself.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|05:37, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)|05:37, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)|accepted|34|26|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffcloseddecline}}<br /> === Talkin' 'bout crazy cool medallions ===<br /> {{stufffact|The Dancing Brothers' style of singing and dancing resembles the style of another group of brothers, The Bee Gees.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|13:44, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)|17:05, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)|declined|9|1|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffcloseddecline}}<br /> === Kinda depressing, ain't it? ===<br /> {{stufffact|The Dancing Brothers bear a striking resemblance to the circle-face characters seen in ads for [http://www.zoloft.com Zoloft], a prescription anti-depressant drug.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|20:33, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)|05:40, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|13|1|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffcloseddecline}}<br /> === Weird Snake & Friends ===<br /> {{stufffact|The "Weird Snake" costume Saddy wore in the village is in the style of Barney the Purple Dinosaur from [[Wikipedia:Barney & Friends|Barney & Friends]], a TV show for kids.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|16:00, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)|03:02, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|17|4|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffclosedaccept}}<br /> === Main character absence ===<br /> {{stufffact|This is the first 'toon on Homestarrunner.com that features members of the main cast, but neither Homestar Runner nor Strong Bad make an appearance.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|06:58, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)|08:15, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)|accepted in a landslide|22|4|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> == rasmoH ==<br /> <br /> Interesting glitch in the flash file. If you re-size your browser window at the end to see all of Homsar, the letters on his shirt are right side up, but backwards. Isn't that great? (sorry, couldn't resist.)--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:01, 2 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Fat Albert? ==<br /> <br /> The song The Dancing Brothers sing is very similar to a part of the theme song for the 1970's TV show [[Wikipedia:Fat Albert|Fat Albert]]. Does anyone else agree?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 18:28, 8 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> *Hold on... I'll stuff it--{{User:Benol/sig}} 18:29, 8 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Worth Mentioning? ==<br /> <br /> I was think about it:<br /> The easter egg showing homsar holding the rope really created more questions than it answered as to what the rope attached to. Namely:<br /> <br /> * Can Homsar support the weight of strong sad with his mouth? (did he think he could?, did he think at all?)<br /> <br /> * Did Coach Z give the rope to him to hold? did he see homsar there and bring the rope to him? Did he just find the rope hanging down and decide to have people climb it?<br /> <br /> * How is Homsar even there?<br /> <br /> Well I think the last one is answered.<br /> In Narrator we see him floating mid air in a brief clip of one of these "up coming movies" so it's possible that he just has the power to fly (mabye it's why his hat always flies off but returns) and so he simply flew up there and held the rope but just rarely uses this power (or at least of what we see of him)<br /> Worth mentioning?<br /> <br /> :While that is a good theory, we usually don't include stuff like this in articles because it's just speculation, which is unencyclopedic. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:56, 7 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Just keep in mind the description from [[Homsar|Homsar's character page]]: Homsar is nonsense incarnate. That's probably the only explanation anyone needs. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 05:21, 7 March 2006 (UTC)</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:A_Folky_Tale Talk:A Folky Tale 2006-08-12T22:56:10Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: /* Homsar's line */</p> <hr /> <div>== Physics ==<br /> <br /> ''If the laws of physics are the same in Free Country, USA as they are on the real earth, then the rope is only about 10 feet long.''<br /> <br /> If i dare to reveal my ignorance, can anyone explain/elaborate?<br /> And evidently, the rope is NOT 10 feet long as Strong Sad cannot see Homsar holding it<br /> Then again, since when does physic apply around Homsar?<br /> -[[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]]<br /> <br /> :The time it takes a pendulum to swing back and forth is the same regardless of its weight or density. It only depends on the strength of gravity and the length of the pendulum. So since the rope takes about 3.4 seconds to swing back and forth, it should be about ten feet long. But this fact keeps on being deleted, so it's probably not important. -[[User:Eman|Eman]]<br /> <br /> ::It's really not important how long the rope is, especially since you can still see the tops of the trees. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:07, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Who cares how long the rope is? thats not a very important part in the story. --[[User: Bubsty|Bubsty]]<br /> <br /> :::Strong Sad doesn't say he can't see homsar; He just says that he is "concerned about what that rope is attached to." Wouldn't you be concerned if Coach Z told you to climb a rope held up by homsar and nothing else?<br /> <br /> I should point out that the rope's ''center of mass'' should be at ten feet. The rope is therefore 20 feet long (assuming uniform density). Also, by counting ten periods while looking at my clock, the rope swings every 3.7 seconds, not 3.4 seconds which means it's 22 feet long if you trust some extra significant figures. Hooray for my first contribution!--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] Some time before I got my account.<br /> <br /> :Oh, come on, people. It might not be important, but it's kind of a fun fact to know that you can work out the length of the rope.<br /> <br /> ::I second that. I think we should take a vote.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 21:28, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::There's a pretty big discrepancy between 10 feet at the top and 22 feet two comments above. Which it it? (It's been a bit since my last physics class.) It's hard to vote on something when the figures don't even agree. Somebody show their work. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:43, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::For small angles, where <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''T''</span> is the period of one oscillation, <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span> is distance from the pivot to the centre of gravity of the pendulum, and <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''g''</span> is acceleration due to gravity, <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''T''</span> = 2<span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">&pi;</span>(<span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span>/<span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''g''</span>)<sup>1/2</sup>, and I think we can agree that the angles involved are small. So with <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''T''</span> = 3.7s and <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''g''</span> = 9.8ms<sup>-2</sup>, we get <br /> :::::<table CELLPADDING=4><tr><td ALIGN=RIGHT>3.7 s</td><td>=</td><td><table><tr><td>2<span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">&pi;</span></td><td><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:45px;line-height:50px;">(</span></td><td><table><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER COLSPAN="2" style="border-bottom:1px solid black"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER ROWSPAN="2">9.8</td><td ALIGN=CENTER style="border-bottom:1px solid black;line-height:8px"><small>m</small></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER style="line-height:15px"><small>s<sup>2</sup></small></td></tr></table></td><td><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:45px;line-height:50px;">)</span></td><td></td><td><sup>1/2</sup></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=RIGHT>0.59 s</td><td>=</td><td><table><tr><td><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:45px;line-height:50px;">(</span></td><td><table><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER COLSPAN="2" style="border-bottom:1px solid black"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER ROWSPAN="2">9.8</td><td ALIGN=CENTER style="border-bottom:1px solid black;line-height:12px"><small>m</small></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER style="line-height:15px"><small>s<sup>2</sup></small></td></tr></table></td><td><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:45px;line-height:50px;">)</span></td><td><sup>1/2</sup></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td>0.35 s<sup>2</sup></td><td>=</td><td><table><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER COLSPAN="2" style="border-bottom:1px solid black"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER ROWSPAN="2">9.8</td><td ALIGN=CENTER style="border-bottom:1px solid black;line-height:12px"><small>m</small></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER style="line-height:15px"><small>s<sup>2</sup></small></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=RIGHT><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span></td><td>=</td><td>3.4 m (about 11 ft)</td></tr></table><br /> ::::However this is the distance from the pivot to the centre of gravity - for a pendulum the centre of gravity is the weight on the end, but for a rope it's approximately in the middle, making the total length is 6.8m or 22ft. However this also assumes no air resistance, and with the small oscillations that the rope has meaning very little gravitational force, the air resistance would be significant. But taking air resistance into account would only make the estimation of the length shorter (to be specific: in an frictionless environment the rope would oscillate faster (duh) so applying the frictionless formula to that smaller number would make a smaller length).<br /> ::::BTW: Why don't <nowiki><math></math></nowiki> tags work here? {{User:phlip/sig}} 23:16, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::::Good work phlip. I just thought of something else we may be leaving out: would the movement of Homsar's head (which is shown ''not'' to be motionless in the egg) affect the movement of the rope? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:53, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Good point... yes, it would. Especially with the small motions that the rope goes through. However given how regularly it's swinging we can probably infer either Homsar is moving in time or he's stationary except during the egg. Either is speculation though. {{User:phlip/sig}} 23:57, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> [[Image:ropelength.png|thumb|10px|left]]<br /> I tried measuring the angle of the rope as it swings, to find out where the pivot actually is, it comes to about 9ft give or take a foot or so (assuming that the distance between each knot is about foot and a half - I took SS and Coach Z as being about 6ft tall as a base measurement and worked from there. Also it depends on the accuracy of the angle measurements - one pixel either way can have a foot or two different answer). So regardless of what should physically happen, that's the point the rope is animated pivoting around. {{User:phlip/sig}} 07:49, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :Hmm, I'm beginning to think that we might possibly be starting to go into a little bit more depth than TBC intended us to go for this swinging rope. {{User:phlip/sig}} 07:52, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::If air resistance had a significant effect, then the rope's oscillations would be decreasing in size. So air resistance is negligible. - [[User:Eman]]<br /> :::Yes, I discourage people from assuming the knots are a specific distance apart or that Coach Z is a specific height. Wasn't there lots of conflicting evidence about Strong Mad's height and weight? If Strong Mad weighs 9,990 pounds (I think that was one measurement taken from Marshmallow's Last Stand), then the proportions in Free Country, USA might be ridiculous. The bottom line is that if the physics of Free Country, USA is identical to our own, then the rope is 22 feet long. That's a pretty big "if", however-- maybe gravity is much weaker to accomodate such enormous characters! I still say we include it.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 18:56, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::::Nah, there's too much guesswork. You said yourself it's a pretty big "if". On the other hand, this discussion itself is an excellent resource that takes many possibilities into account, and it even has equations and illustrations. I think it covers the topic well, considering that the bottom line is that it's all quite a bit of speculation. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:08, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::::The reason why I like it is that the only presumption is that gravity accelerates objects at 9.8 meters per second squared. We don't have to guess anything about the height of Strong Sad or Coach Z or the distance between the knots, etc. We already know the characters have strange proportions. Hell, The Cheat doesn't even have a liver or anything! Why not use physics given that it's far more reliable? I see no reason why it can't be added as long as we make it clear that it relies on the assumption that gravity is still 9.8 m/s^2 in the Homestar universe.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 19:33, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::::::No speculation about it. The equation requires 2 things: the period and "g". What the heck! It's a Wiki: add it! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:16, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br style="clear:left" /><br /> :::::::What the heck! I added it! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:20, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> This calculation is complete crap. The formula for the period of a pendulum assumes a weight at the end of a massless string. This formula doesn't apply to massive ropes without weights on the end. The physics of the two situations is quite different, for example a hanging massive string makes a hyperbolic cosine while a weighted massive string makes a parabola.<br /> :Right you are, although the curving effect is insignificant. But, as you said, you can't assume all the weight is concentrated in one place.<br /> <br /> :For a pendulum with a complicated distribution of mass, such as a hanging rope, the period is<br /> ::T = 2π*sqrt[I/(mgh)],<br /> :where I is the rotational inertia of the pendulum about the pivot point, m is the total mass of the pendulum, and h is the distance from the pivot point to the center of mass. (For a simple pendulum of length L where all of the weight is concentrated at the end, I is equal to mL&sup2;, and h is equal to L. This yields the formula T = 2π*sqrt[L/g], which was used above.)<br /> <br /> :If we assume the mass of the rope is distributed evenly across its length, its rotational inertia is equal to<br /> ::I = 1/3*mL&sup2;,<br /> :and the center of mass is positioned halfway down the length of the rope, so<br /> ::h = 1/2*L.<br /> <br /> :Therefore, the period of oscillation of the rope is<br /> ::T = 2π*sqrt[(1/3*mL&sup2;)/(1/2*mgL)] = 2π*sqrt[2/3*L/g]. Note that the mass of the rope cancels, and again the equation depends only on the period, the length, and g (the acceleration of gravity).<br /> :So given a period of 3.7 seconds and an acceleration of gravity of 9.8 m/s&sup2;, we have<br /> ::3.7 s = 2π*sqrt[2/3*L/(9.8 m/s&sup2;)], which simplifies to:<br /> :::L = 5.1 m (about 17 ft).<br /> <br /> :In this calculation L is the total length of the pendulum, not the length to the center of mass (that’s h). So the total length of the pendulum is 17 ft (not 34 feet).<br /> <br /> :You can’t assume that all the mass of the rope is concentrated at the end, as you can for a simple pendulum: this gives an answer of 11 ft, which is too small. However, you also can’t assume that all the mass of the rope is concentrated at the center, as phlip did, giving an answer of 22 ft. Instead, you must realize that there is mass at the top, the center, and the end, and everywhere in between. Taking the distribution of mass of the rope into account, we get an answer between the two: 17 ft.<br /> <br /> :I know there are knots in the rope, but they are insignificant (unless there are lead weights in them.) Also, as the previous contributor rightly stated, a flexible rope pendulum will tend to curve as it oscillates. But for such small angles, this effect is also insignificant, and it doesn’t much change the center of mass or the rotational inertia. - [[User:Eman|Eman]]<br /> <br /> ::Though I haven't been able to come to the same conclusion from first principles, I found the equation you used in my physics text. I'm going to take Eman's word on this. I think he has come up with the correct answer and this can finally be put to rest. Great jorb, Eman! --[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 23:51, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Nice work, I didn't know about that generalised formula... though I should have remembered that it's not just the position of the centre of mass that matters for a rotating object. {{User:phlip/sig}} 00:29, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The mayor and Dancing bros. ==<br /> <br /> Where should we catagorize them? I like the Dancing bros. enough to make a page about them, but the mayor is just a guy.. with ... a job..?--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:20, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the Dancing Brothers, but I don't think an article about the mayor is a good idea. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 04:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Agreed--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I kinda agree, actully. The dancing Bros defianately need a page, but the mayor... i dunno. [[User:Bubsty|Bubsty]]<br /> <br /> The mayor actually doesn't say anything. He squeaks and Strong Sad says his words. [[User:Catman87]]<br /> <br /> == The Elephant Man ==<br /> <br /> May I add something about the realationship with how Puppet Homestar said that he looked like the elephant man on the DVD Puppet Stuff? --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:36, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> does it take two or three times to be mentioned as an inside joke? it depends on that i think--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:38, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> After research i think that the elphant man is obscure enough to be classified as an inside joke...--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:39, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> So, then what should I do? BTW, thanks! lol --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:41, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The elephant man hasn't ever really seemed obscure to me... Maybe to other people though. But all the same, in those two different contexts, it doesn't seem like an inside joke to me. If there was yet another reference to the elephant man after this, then I'd call it safe to classify it as an inside joke(or more appropriately, a running gag). --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]<br /> <br /> So can I put it in that homestar said it too atleast?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 20:35, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Linking Up==<br /> I think it would be a good idea to link Saddy Dumpington in the inside references section.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 04:40, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Saddy Dumpington's already linked at the top under Characters. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 04:42, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Roger. Sorry! I'm just excited to be helping a little bit with the new toon.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 04:44, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ^^I feel the same way. I'm trying to find something I can do!!! lol --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:45, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Shut up. --Der Pepper<br /> <br /> Der Pepper, comments like that will get you banned. <small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small> 18:59, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Who was he talking to?<br /> <br /> ==Linking to this article==<br /> Should we title the link as Saddy Dumpington (toon), or Saddy Dumpington. I prefer the latter because wherever the link is, people will be able to presue by the text that it is a cartoon.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 04:48, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Saddy Dumpington is already an article about the character.--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:49, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I know that, but I talking about using the | thing in the link. I've seen it before for toons.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 04:51, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I vote we should hold off on the desicion until it is on the toons page and then make the visible part of the link say whatever the toons page says.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 05:05, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> And now we know, "A Folky Tale." So much for that. --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]<br /> <br /> i 'gree<br /> == Article Name ==<br /> <br /> Why is this article not called "The Folky Tale of Saddy Dumpington"? That's what's on the title card. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:50, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> : I think the page should be moved as soon as the title appears on the 'Toons page (which it hasn't yet). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:53, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah, I agree. I won't be surprised if that above is the full title. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:08, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::"A Folky Tale." I was close. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]<br /> <br /> :::I agree with Dot com on this one. Why is the article named the way it is? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::::As "A Folky Tale," this is how it appears on the Toons menu. The question was asked when this page was called "Saddy Dumpington (toon)." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:11, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::D'oh! I'm not going to the main site enough! Thanks for clarifying! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:13, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::I do believe it is on the Toons page now! --[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 19:15, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Side issue: Should "The Folky Tale of Saddy Dumpington" be a redirect? I guess I could just make one, but... meh. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:19, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::its definately just called "A folky tale." end of disscussion.<br /> == lol ==<br /> <br /> I laughed my butt off at Jargle.. anyone else? Beuler?<br /> <br /> I laugh at Coach Z's accent all the time. I'm with ya there.<br /> :Jargle and turlet just crack me up here. Nice Ferris Beuler thing. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:31, 23 December 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Folk Tale World ==<br /> <br /> I created the page [[Folk Tale World]] i'm bad at writing whole articles, so anyone be my guest.<br /> <br /> :Shouldn't this be more properly called "Folky Tale World" or "Folky Tale Town"? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Ropes and Dopes==<br /> <br /> I'm not sure if the "ropes are for dopes" comment should be kept in the remarks section (at least how it is). Although when people start a story with a quote, the quote is in the story, that is not always true. Maybe it should be in trivia. -[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 05:16, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :It seems like a remark to me. I find it odd that he used the quote as a transition to tell his story and then never mentioned it in the story itself. He used "passing out for the rest of their lives" to transition back to the rope. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:35, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Rope-a-Dope==<br /> All this talk of ropes and dopes makes me think of Ali's "[[Wikipedia:Rope-a-dope|rope-a-dope]]" strategy vs. George Foreman. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05:32, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Homsar's line==<br /> <br /> Any idea what Homsar is saying? The best I can make out is "I dazzle men," but that's only a guess. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:00, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :Did he say something about a "mayor?"<br /> :: It's possible. I'm pretty sure I hear a "dazzle", at the very least, but it's hard to tell. I know he's saying ''something'' and don't feel right leaving it as "''{muffled speech}''." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:31, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Sounds like he says "I'm flying with the birds"<br /> <br /> I'm pretty sure he says "I'm a climbable man..."--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 06:43, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :First I heard "I'm a rectangular man" (Which is lined up cinely with his hat) But now it's more like "I'm a (something)able man". {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:53, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Someone just suggested "I'm a powerful man!" At first, I deleted it. After listening more closely, I'm pretty sure that's it. I put it back into the transcript that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hey I heard "I'm a powerfull man" too. It really sounds like that. We can't be sure.<br /> <br /> :::Maybe next week's QotW will reveal all! ;) -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Sounds to me like "I'm a talented man. - Lord-Z<br /> <br /> :Either "I'm an admirable man" or "I'm a climbable man" is what I think. -Eternal<br /> <br /> ::Looks like someone changed it back to "muffled". Obviously we're not hearing the same thing. Any bets that next week's QotW clears this up? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:37, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Only if TBC are going to read this talk page... {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 15:43, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I personally think it's "I'm square with the man", kinda inspired by the way his hat moves. I guess we really can't say though.. Heh. -[[User:Mick|Mick]]<br /> <br /> I think he says "I'm an honorable man" but climbable makes sense. - [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master doesn't have weird squiggly things on this computer.]]<br /> <br /> :I think it might be something about Dazzle-Mazing, which could be a reference to [[Happy Fireworks]].<br /> <br /> I always heard "I'm hardly the man." -Kvb<br /> <br /> I definitely hear, "I'm a -----able man," or something very similar. Let's wait and see.<br /> :Yeah, "-----able man" is definitely what I heard. -Eman. <br /> I think it's: "am a miserable man" -[[Eh steve 2000]]<br /> <br /> Something like "I'm man with a man". Before blamming this, be sure to keep in mind that nothing Homsar says has to make sense. Unless scripted.<br /> <br /> Sounds like, "I'm a climbable man." to me! -20X6 GEM<br /> <br /> I hear "climbable man" too, but thats just me. Maybe we could make a footnote for it.<br /> --[[User:Stong Bad|Stong Bad]] 01:36, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> After several reviews, all I can hear now is "I'm a ''hangable'' man." I mean, after all, Homsar is hanging from something. It is important to note I'm not suggesting that he's implying he's being lynched - it's more in the spirit of the lame fill-in-the-blanks game "Hangman." And yes, I realize "hangable" ain't good English, neither. {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}}14:53, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I definitely hear "I'm an honorable man"; the n sound in honorable is rather distinct. It seems more in character for him to say "I'm an honorable mention", however. Of course, Matt could just be holding a rope in his own mouth and mumbling nonsense. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]<br /> <br /> I email them so we will know soon [[Eh steve 2000]]<br /> <br /> I hear "I'm a reliable man." I only played the Easter Egg like 4 times though. Also climable could work because of the rope. [[User:Catman87]]<br /> <br /> My bet is on "I'm the Haddi-Man". Since we all agree on "I'm" and "man" what better word can fit than Haddi? As we all know, Haddi-Man is Homesar in the children's TV show, [[Whaddaya_Know%2C_Haddi-Man%3F]]...[[User:VL-Tone|VL-Tone]] 07:40, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I hear "I'm a huggable man" or "I'm a lovable man". -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|<font color=DC143C>MK and/or BurnBox</font>]] 03:05, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm positive he's saying "I'm elephant man," seeing as that's the line Coach Z just said. [[socetew]]<br /> <br /> I heard "I will go out with a man".<br /> <br /> I heard, "I'm the elephant maaaaan." But then Homsar would be making sense by making fun of Strong Sad! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:34, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I heard "I'm half a man"- which would make sense because only half of him is on screen. -tuesrig<br /> <br /> I say I heard "I'm the lyrical plan"<br /> <br /> I believe he said "I'm a magical man" -- [[User:EMJS|EMJS]]<br /> <br /> What about "I'm a sad little man"? I deffinitely heard the word "Little" in there.<br /> <br /> :He could just be mumbling. --[[User:Sam Goldfish|Sam Goldfish]] 20:49, 18 October 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> LOL&mdash;this is a monument to Homsar's ability to speak to all. (In like, a couple different languages, even!) Sure, a lot of the 'toons engender differences in what people hear, but there are usually only two opinions, and close, amplified listening proves one. Here, I count '''21''' different interpretations, all by people listening to the ''same'' line! Maybe it's kind of an auditory [[Wikipedia:Rorschach inkblot test|Rorschach test]]... &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:36, 1 November 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Truly, this line of Homsar (which is still "I'm a hangable man" as far as I'm concerned) is what one wants it to be. There will ''never'' be a consensus, much like it cannot be proven that gravity exists. Go ahead, I dare you.  &mdash; {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 15:03, 1 December 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I listened closely, and heard the "b" in "able" more like a "th". I hear "I admire the man". That's the only thing I ear. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:38, 23 December 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : I hear "I am one with the ??". ''[[User:Maggot Man|<font color="Blue">Maggot Man</font>]] ''([[User talk:Maggot Man|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 20:38, 14 June 2006 (UTC)''<br /> <br /> From what I could make out, he says "I'm Round and Round"... [[User:KKyuubi|KKyuubi]] 14:06, 27 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> He's definitely saying something; it's not just mumbling. I can make out VERY CLEARLY, "I'm an ????? man", and having listened to it over and over, the third word is either "honorable" or "horrible", and it sounds more like "honorable" to me. Note that this isn't complete nonsense (IMO Complete nonsense is something like "The flying kitties ate my supper!"), but a normal phrase, just out of context, like most of his lines. {{User:Raised by Coffee/sig}} 22:23, 12 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Actually, you'd be surprised at how often his lines make sense. See [[Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]<br /> <br /> :Hmmm, I hear "Pie is my whistle man". As AbdiViklas pointed out a few paragraphs before, everybody is hearing something else, and we'll most likely not agree on anything in this case.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:36, 12 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yes- I meant to say that his lines do make sense but are out of context, like most of his lines. I've edited my post to make it clearer....{{User:Raised by Coffee/sig}} 22:56, 12 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Martbell ==<br /> <br /> Could this be some nod at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Bell Art Bell]? Those weird "dancing brothers" sure fit in with that hypothesis.<br /> <br /> Haha or maybe not. I just wanted to have this on here because that's what it made me think of. [[User:64.164.69.221|64.164.69.221]] 11:36, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> It definately sounds like something Art would do. His guest would be Glenn (Whom?) and the product would be the Killer Dynamo.<br /> <br /> == Old Intro? ==<br /> <br /> :When Saddy Dumpington walks through the field and is silhouetted by the sun, could it be a reference to [[Old Intro 2]]? Should I add this to Inside References or STUFF or what? I'm new at this. - Eternal<br /> ::There's many other instances of characters silhouetted against the sun. - [[User:Alcnolien|Alcnolien]]<br /> <br /> ==Jargle=Gargle?==<br /> Another instance of "G-pronounced-J"? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:12, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :I don't think so. It seems to be a mutation of the word "jargon." &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:15, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Jargon? I've heard "gargle" used in the sense of "nonesense" or "gobbledygook". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:19, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :I think it's a mangling of "gibberish" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:51, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I think that we should add this as a fact and add this to [[G]] {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:33, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Look? ==<br /> <br /> I don't know if my speakers are broken or what, but I hear something different for Strong Sad's first line. It sounds ambigously explicit to me. I certainly don't hear "Look," as indicated on the transcript, and I seem to hear a bit of an F sound. Does anybody else hear what I (kinda) hear?<br /> : If you're implying what I think you're implying, then no. TBC have made it clear that any language more foul than "crap" is not to appear on homestarrunner.com. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:14, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> : PS. Maybe you're hearing the "S" at the end of Coach Z's "times" (which is ungrammatical, but Coach Z makes the ''very same mistake'' earlier in the same line, so...) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:19, 23 Aug 2005 <br /> :I think I heard SS say something like "flook".<br /> (UTC)<br /> :I do hear the "F" word, but I don't think that's what TBC had in mind. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:45, 18 November 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Are Infintesimally Small Imperfections Really Goofs?==<br /> I think it's a very bad idea to set the precedent that very very small color differences are somehow goofs worth noting. I'm sure if we looked hard enough, we could find numerous "goofs" of that sort in every single cartoon. It's my opinion that goofs worth noting involve continuity mistakes in either the story line or gross features of the artwork, not some miniscule color differences in a tiny 50 square pixel area of the frame. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:30, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :I dunno. This one I find kinda interesting. TBC have been making toons for a while now. They're not what you would call novices. They have the tools and the talent to get it right at this stage of the game. It's not like those old ''Scooby-Doo'' cartoons. You know, where the trap door stands out because it's painted in a slightly different color of blue from the rest of the floor. In that case, the door and the floor were created using two completely different means, so it was almost impossible to get right. In the case of this toon, however, getting the color right should just have been a matter of selecting the eyedropper tool and choosing the background. I do agree with you that we have to draw a line somewhere, though. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:38, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::Here's a description of the alleged goof: "the green is only 1/128 different. I had to zoom WAY in to be sure of this." Apart from being a good observation, is this really this level of "perfection" that we should expect from H*R? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:40, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I don't think we expect perfection (what we expect is beside the point). The fact is that it should have been one color (#007E00), and instead it was another (#008000). That's the very definition of a goof. The difference is ever so slight, true, but once it's pointed out, it's very obvious, at least to me. This project is a complete chronicle of H*R. I think any fact should be included that is so easily verifiable. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:50, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I understand what you're saying. I think we both agree that there is a limit to what should reasonably be noted. I just happen to think that this one lies outside that limit. I'm a little concerned that this'll set a precedent that'll send all the 12 year-olds off combing every frame at high-zoom looking for "goofs". ;)-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:58, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Wait, can you STUFF a goof?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 18:47, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yes, goofs can be STUFF'd. But if we do, we need to be careful. We need to make it absolutely clear that the decision on this fact has the potential to set precedent, whether we accept it or decline it. Another possibility would be to have a discussion in a more central location, like [[HRWiki_talk:Standards]], to decide just where the line on goofs should be. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:54, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> This is ''not'' infintessimally small. It's not blaringly obvious, but it's clearly visible without zooming in if you know to look for it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:17, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :And relating to this, I didn't even have to look. It's obvious to anyone sailing their eyes about the screen, and I know I was sure of the error without zooming in for a better look. Even if one doesn't see the green, the imperfection in the line, as well as the discolouration, is easily noticed. It's not infintesimally small, as was said, it's rather obvious that there's a discolouration in line and lawn. And relating to the Scooby-Doo point, yes, there may have been a more brightly coloured trapdoor against a darker floor, BUT both shades were not present on either object of the two, whereas here we have what should be an outright solid fill, interrupted. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 20:12, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: The reason why we could see trapdoors in Scooby-Doo is because of how cartoons were made in the old days. The background was hand painted on some paper or cardboard, then, celluloids with painted characters were overlaid on top of it and animated. The background was not animated, except for panning and zooming. The paint used on cells was different and had different reflectivity index than the background. The background also had more texture and shadowing than the animated parts on cells, which were painted with uniform, unshaded colors. So that made the traps on walls and the floor very obvious. You could also guess when a statue, supposedly in the background, would suddenly start to move :) [[User:VL-Tone|VL-Tone]] 08:03, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Hay!==<br /> <br /> A new toon! Is it good, I have yet to see it? -[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 18:46, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Champo.. The HR Wiki-ers were all over this toon like white on rice... It was up for 10 seconds before the page started to take form.. in the matter of 3 hrs. It was done, waiting for an official title... I was amazed.. It was like a bunch a little carpenters building a skycraper in like 5 minutes...--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 18:51, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> What the bleep are you talking about? I just saw it and the statements you made make no scence? Whater you speeching aboot?<br /> <br /> I think he was saying that indeed, it is good, and you need only look at the Wiki (or go to the forum thread) to find that out. [[User:71.115.224.254|71.115.224.254]] 07:02, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Coach X? Coach Y? ==<br /> <br /> Any thoughts on Coaches X and Y? <br /> Could they be related to Coach Z?<br /> Will we hear of them again? --[[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]] 19:29, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :Knowing TBC, I expect to see some sketches or cameo appearances in the future. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:27, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> : Whatcha think they'll look like?<br /> <br /> I wouldn't be surprised if they were made up by Coach Z, in an attempt to act like he has friends. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]<br /> <br /> After all, there is [[Coach Zed]], and Coach "Backwards N." --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 03:23, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I think he was just using those names as a metaphor for any other average person. [[User:SA2Tails|SA2Tails]] 00:13, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Title Screen ==<br /> <br /> Yes, there is one, and this is it.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 19:48, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC) [[Image:saddy title screen.png|thumb|Title Screen]]<br /> :Is that really the toon's title screen, or the title screen of the beginning of Saddy Dumpington's toon? I think it is the latter, making it not title screen to the toon, and also making this big toon titleless.<br /> :: Yes, it is. The rope climbing bit is only an intro to the Saddy Dumpington 'toon; Saddy Dumpington is the true star of this one. It's a [[Wikipedia:cold open|cold open]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:17, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::: The real debate is if it is a cold open or not. I don't believe it is, I believe the toon is Strong Sad telling the story to Coach Z, and not the story itself. I believe this because of the commentary on the story (The Dancing Brothers for example).<br /> ::::Even if you don't consider the cold open to be a cold open, the fact that there may be no title shown still isn't that notable. None of the last three big toons have had credits to speak of. TBC seem to have moved away from full credits for a while (probably won't be until Halloween until we see any again, if then). &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:54, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::::: But this is the first toon to have no title at all. The other toons had a title, this one just jumps into the action. I doubt they will ever include credits if this is the path they are going for.<br /> <br /> == The Lake ==<br /> <br /> It might be just me, but when I saw the lake in this toon, it reminded me of the pebble lake from peasant's quest. I'm not sure if we should really put it in there though.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 20:38, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I heard him ==<br /> <br /> I thought I heard Homsar say "I'm the lyrical plan" Did anyone else? -Kinsey<br /> : I think everybody heard something different; see ''"Homsar's line"'' section above --[[User:Fig Laser|Fig Laser]] 23:46, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> I thought I heard him say"Irm a Pwerfull Mrn!" Which sounded to me like "I'm a powerfull man!" Anyone else hear this?<br /> I thought I heard "I'm Gone with the Wind".<br /> <br /> == new page? ==<br /> <br /> Should we have a page on that girl in the beginning?<br /> <br /> I would say no. She's an even more minor character than the mayor. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 18:12, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == First time?... ==<br /> <br /> Is it just me or is this the first time there've been two full-length cartoons released a week between? Certainly that's notable... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:47, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :I sense a Toons DVD coming somewhere on the horizon (Probably with the first 10 of TGS and Marzipan's Answering Machine Included). That would make the most sense. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:31, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::I proposed that we make the quick turn around a fun fact for the toon. be sure to vote on it. --[[User:Fig Laser|Fig Laser]] 23:43, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::I hope they continue making DVD versions of toons on the site. I love the commentary on the first two. I hope a toons DVD doesn't eliminate any online commentary. I'd rather believe TBC is just bored of constant SB E-Mails and would like to strech their creativity. Notice the lack of Strong Bad?<br /> ::::I do notice. And honestly, I'm vera happy! I mean, I think SB is awexome, but there was just too much! I was thinking the site was gonna be renamed StrongBad.com! 8-P [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:39, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==vandilism==<br /> when i clicked on "homsar filmography" and theres a vandil that says sb e-mail interview is sb e-mail juifsdh it says juifsdh on the top of the page!i'm not in the troll comitty but can someone change this?<br /> <br /> ''You can change it yourself. This is a wiki; anyone can edit it.''<br /> <br /> == Isn't that Great? ==<br /> <br /> Sorry, I was a tad bored. Who else loved this one? I sure did! (Being a creepy Strong Sad fan.) - [[User:Brittany|Brittany]] - "What's a Gothling?"<br /> <br /> hehe. Strong Sad is my favorite character, as well, so yes, I loved this cartoon. As an aside, I only really like the newer Strong Sad, as the old one was '''way''' too whiny and depressing. The present-day Strong Sad almost seems to want to crack a smile at times, which is good to see. - [[User:Bruce|Bruce]]<br /> <br /> Deffenately. Strong Sad is my favorite character, too, but most people don't like him very much. Or, they love him, but they don't want to say it! - [[User:Brittany|Brittany]]<br /> <br /> Strong Sad seems to be showing a bit of his brother's violent streak, or at least Strong Bad's tendancy to abuse characters. Poor Dancing Brothers.... Abused like the TGS before you.... -[[User:Alcnolien|Alcnolien]]<br /> <br /> Oh, I love Strong Sad, and I admit it...too much...I have his figurine on my bedside table and I love wearing his T-Shirt.<br /> <br /> == Which field ==<br /> The article claims the location is [[The Athletic Field]], but I believe it's [[The Field]] instead -- the difference being the trees (bushes?) in the background. Maybe given that [[Coach Z]] is involved, it makes sense that it would be the Athletic field instead, but the look is certainly that of the plain old Field. Maybe this is a goof?<br /> <br /> :I used to think the same thing. I even went so far as to change it, until I realized that, like everything in Free Country, USA, the Athletic Field's appearance has changed over the years. Once a very bright green and quite cartoony, it has now taken on the characteristics of the Field. In fact, according to Bubs' Yearbook Page (and supported by [[different town]], if it can be trusted), the Athletic Field is very close to the concession stand, which actually puts it ''in'' the Field. So... you're partially right, but it's more accurate to say the action happens in the Athletic Field. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:45, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thy Dungeonman Reference ==<br /> <br /> Hey everyone,<br /> <br /> First I want to say how useful and interesting this site is! It seems to have everything you'd want to know about homestarrunner.com and more...<br /> <br /> I recently added an edit to Inside References, noting that one of the lines that Coach Z says seems to come from the Videlectrix game "Thy Dungeonman". Coach Z says "Never you mind" to Strong Sad, which is also the reply that you would get from "Thy Dungeonman" if you type "Get Flask". Does anyone else think that it is a valid connection? The edit was deleted, and I'm just curious to see what other people might think.<br /> : It's too generic. It may not be as common as "never mind", but it ''has'' been heard in contexts that have nothing to do with, or even predate, Thy Dungeonman. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:59, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :: Well, since I was the one who deleted it, I ''was'' going to explain myself. Turns out my reasoning is the same as Jay's. But welcome to the wiki, Anonymous, and I'm glad you like it here. Have you considered [[Special:Userlogin|registering a username]]? &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:03, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::Thanks for the replies! I don't think I'll register yet, but I still think this is a great site!<br /> <br /> == Homsar hanging ==<br /> I see a resemblance to Homsar's character page. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:06, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> :I know what you mean, but I don't consider that notable enough to point it out here. However, I can see it being put on Homsar's wiki page. "Homsar has the peculiar ability to defy gravity at a whim, as seen in the toon "A Folky Tale" and his character page." Yeah...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:44, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Closed Stuff ==<br /> <br /> {{stuffcloseddecline}}<br /> === Gonna have a good STUFF tonight! ===<br /> {{stufffact|The song The Dancing Brothers sing is very similar to a part of the theme song for the 1970s TV show [[Wikipedia:Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids|Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids]].}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|18:34, 8 February 2006 (UTC)|23:46, 15 February 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|14|2|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffcloseddecline}}<br /> === I like the Sprite in you ===<br /> {{stufffact|When Strong Sad pretends to faint, his body is in the same exact position as when he passes out in email 91 caffeine, including mouth, body, hand, and foot position.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|21:00, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)|21:02, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|14|3|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffclosedaccept}}<br /> === Ropes are for dopes ===<br /> {{stufffact|Strong Sad says that "Ropes are for dopes" is a quote from the legendary folk hero he made up, but neither ropes nor dopes are mentioned in the story itself.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|05:37, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)|05:37, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)|accepted|34|26|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffcloseddecline}}<br /> === Talkin' 'bout crazy cool medallions ===<br /> {{stufffact|The Dancing Brothers' style of singing and dancing resembles the style of another group of brothers, The Bee Gees.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|13:44, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)|17:05, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)|declined|9|1|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffcloseddecline}}<br /> === Kinda depressing, ain't it? ===<br /> {{stufffact|The Dancing Brothers bear a striking resemblance to the circle-face characters seen in ads for [http://www.zoloft.com Zoloft], a prescription anti-depressant drug.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|20:33, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)|05:40, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|13|1|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffcloseddecline}}<br /> === Weird Snake & Friends ===<br /> {{stufffact|The "Weird Snake" costume Saddy wore in the village is in the style of Barney the Purple Dinosaur from [[Wikipedia:Barney & Friends|Barney & Friends]], a TV show for kids.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|16:00, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)|03:02, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|17|4|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffclosedaccept}}<br /> === Main character absence ===<br /> {{stufffact|This is the first 'toon on Homestarrunner.com that features members of the main cast, but neither Homestar Runner nor Strong Bad make an appearance.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|06:58, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)|08:15, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)|accepted in a landslide|22|4|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> == rasmoH ==<br /> <br /> Interesting glitch in the flash file. If you re-size your browser window at the end to see all of Homsar, the letters on his shirt are right side up, but backwards. Isn't that great? (sorry, couldn't resist.)--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:01, 2 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Fat Albert? ==<br /> <br /> The song The Dancing Brothers sing is very similar to a part of the theme song for the 1970's TV show [[Wikipedia:Fat Albert|Fat Albert]]. Does anyone else agree?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 18:28, 8 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> *Hold on... I'll stuff it--{{User:Benol/sig}} 18:29, 8 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Worth Mentioning? ==<br /> <br /> I was think about it:<br /> The easter egg showing homsar holding the rope really created more questions than it answered as to what the rope attached to. Namely:<br /> <br /> * Can Homsar support the weight of strong sad with his mouth? (did he think he could?, did he think at all?)<br /> <br /> * Did Coach Z give the rope to him to hold? did he see homsar there and bring the rope to him? Did he just find the rope hanging down and decide to have people climb it?<br /> <br /> * How is Homsar even there?<br /> <br /> Well I think the last one is answered.<br /> In Narrator we see him floating mid air in a brief clip of one of these "up coming movies" so it's possible that he just has the power to fly (mabye it's why his hat always flies off but returns) and so he simply flew up there and held the rope but just rarely uses this power (or at least of what we see of him)<br /> Worth mentioning?<br /> <br /> :While that is a good theory, we usually don't include stuff like this in articles because it's just speculation, which is unencyclopedic. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:56, 7 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Just keep in mind the description from [[Homsar|Homsar's character page]]: Homsar is nonsense incarnate. That's probably the only explanation anyone needs. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 05:21, 7 March 2006 (UTC)</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:A_Folky_Tale Talk:A Folky Tale 2006-08-12T22:23:03Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: /* Homsar's line */</p> <hr /> <div>== Physics ==<br /> <br /> ''If the laws of physics are the same in Free Country, USA as they are on the real earth, then the rope is only about 10 feet long.''<br /> <br /> If i dare to reveal my ignorance, can anyone explain/elaborate?<br /> And evidently, the rope is NOT 10 feet long as Strong Sad cannot see Homsar holding it<br /> Then again, since when does physic apply around Homsar?<br /> -[[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]]<br /> <br /> :The time it takes a pendulum to swing back and forth is the same regardless of its weight or density. It only depends on the strength of gravity and the length of the pendulum. So since the rope takes about 3.4 seconds to swing back and forth, it should be about ten feet long. But this fact keeps on being deleted, so it's probably not important. -[[User:Eman|Eman]]<br /> <br /> ::It's really not important how long the rope is, especially since you can still see the tops of the trees. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:07, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Who cares how long the rope is? thats not a very important part in the story. --[[User: Bubsty|Bubsty]]<br /> <br /> :::Strong Sad doesn't say he can't see homsar; He just says that he is "concerned about what that rope is attached to." Wouldn't you be concerned if Coach Z told you to climb a rope held up by homsar and nothing else?<br /> <br /> I should point out that the rope's ''center of mass'' should be at ten feet. The rope is therefore 20 feet long (assuming uniform density). Also, by counting ten periods while looking at my clock, the rope swings every 3.7 seconds, not 3.4 seconds which means it's 22 feet long if you trust some extra significant figures. Hooray for my first contribution!--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] Some time before I got my account.<br /> <br /> :Oh, come on, people. It might not be important, but it's kind of a fun fact to know that you can work out the length of the rope.<br /> <br /> ::I second that. I think we should take a vote.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 21:28, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::There's a pretty big discrepancy between 10 feet at the top and 22 feet two comments above. Which it it? (It's been a bit since my last physics class.) It's hard to vote on something when the figures don't even agree. Somebody show their work. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:43, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::For small angles, where <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''T''</span> is the period of one oscillation, <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span> is distance from the pivot to the centre of gravity of the pendulum, and <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''g''</span> is acceleration due to gravity, <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''T''</span> = 2<span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">&pi;</span>(<span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span>/<span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''g''</span>)<sup>1/2</sup>, and I think we can agree that the angles involved are small. So with <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''T''</span> = 3.7s and <span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''g''</span> = 9.8ms<sup>-2</sup>, we get <br /> :::::<table CELLPADDING=4><tr><td ALIGN=RIGHT>3.7 s</td><td>=</td><td><table><tr><td>2<span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">&pi;</span></td><td><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:45px;line-height:50px;">(</span></td><td><table><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER COLSPAN="2" style="border-bottom:1px solid black"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER ROWSPAN="2">9.8</td><td ALIGN=CENTER style="border-bottom:1px solid black;line-height:8px"><small>m</small></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER style="line-height:15px"><small>s<sup>2</sup></small></td></tr></table></td><td><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:45px;line-height:50px;">)</span></td><td></td><td><sup>1/2</sup></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=RIGHT>0.59 s</td><td>=</td><td><table><tr><td><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:45px;line-height:50px;">(</span></td><td><table><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER COLSPAN="2" style="border-bottom:1px solid black"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER ROWSPAN="2">9.8</td><td ALIGN=CENTER style="border-bottom:1px solid black;line-height:12px"><small>m</small></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER style="line-height:15px"><small>s<sup>2</sup></small></td></tr></table></td><td><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:45px;line-height:50px;">)</span></td><td><sup>1/2</sup></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td>0.35 s<sup>2</sup></td><td>=</td><td><table><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER COLSPAN="2" style="border-bottom:1px solid black"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER ROWSPAN="2">9.8</td><td ALIGN=CENTER style="border-bottom:1px solid black;line-height:12px"><small>m</small></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=CENTER style="line-height:15px"><small>s<sup>2</sup></small></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td ALIGN=RIGHT><span style="font-family:Times New Roman,serif;font-size:16px">''l''</span></td><td>=</td><td>3.4 m (about 11 ft)</td></tr></table><br /> ::::However this is the distance from the pivot to the centre of gravity - for a pendulum the centre of gravity is the weight on the end, but for a rope it's approximately in the middle, making the total length is 6.8m or 22ft. However this also assumes no air resistance, and with the small oscillations that the rope has meaning very little gravitational force, the air resistance would be significant. But taking air resistance into account would only make the estimation of the length shorter (to be specific: in an frictionless environment the rope would oscillate faster (duh) so applying the frictionless formula to that smaller number would make a smaller length).<br /> ::::BTW: Why don't <nowiki><math></math></nowiki> tags work here? {{User:phlip/sig}} 23:16, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::::Good work phlip. I just thought of something else we may be leaving out: would the movement of Homsar's head (which is shown ''not'' to be motionless in the egg) affect the movement of the rope? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:53, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Good point... yes, it would. Especially with the small motions that the rope goes through. However given how regularly it's swinging we can probably infer either Homsar is moving in time or he's stationary except during the egg. Either is speculation though. {{User:phlip/sig}} 23:57, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> [[Image:ropelength.png|thumb|10px|left]]<br /> I tried measuring the angle of the rope as it swings, to find out where the pivot actually is, it comes to about 9ft give or take a foot or so (assuming that the distance between each knot is about foot and a half - I took SS and Coach Z as being about 6ft tall as a base measurement and worked from there. Also it depends on the accuracy of the angle measurements - one pixel either way can have a foot or two different answer). So regardless of what should physically happen, that's the point the rope is animated pivoting around. {{User:phlip/sig}} 07:49, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :Hmm, I'm beginning to think that we might possibly be starting to go into a little bit more depth than TBC intended us to go for this swinging rope. {{User:phlip/sig}} 07:52, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::If air resistance had a significant effect, then the rope's oscillations would be decreasing in size. So air resistance is negligible. - [[User:Eman]]<br /> :::Yes, I discourage people from assuming the knots are a specific distance apart or that Coach Z is a specific height. Wasn't there lots of conflicting evidence about Strong Mad's height and weight? If Strong Mad weighs 9,990 pounds (I think that was one measurement taken from Marshmallow's Last Stand), then the proportions in Free Country, USA might be ridiculous. The bottom line is that if the physics of Free Country, USA is identical to our own, then the rope is 22 feet long. That's a pretty big "if", however-- maybe gravity is much weaker to accomodate such enormous characters! I still say we include it.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 18:56, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::::Nah, there's too much guesswork. You said yourself it's a pretty big "if". On the other hand, this discussion itself is an excellent resource that takes many possibilities into account, and it even has equations and illustrations. I think it covers the topic well, considering that the bottom line is that it's all quite a bit of speculation. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:08, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::::The reason why I like it is that the only presumption is that gravity accelerates objects at 9.8 meters per second squared. We don't have to guess anything about the height of Strong Sad or Coach Z or the distance between the knots, etc. We already know the characters have strange proportions. Hell, The Cheat doesn't even have a liver or anything! Why not use physics given that it's far more reliable? I see no reason why it can't be added as long as we make it clear that it relies on the assumption that gravity is still 9.8 m/s^2 in the Homestar universe.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 19:33, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::::::No speculation about it. The equation requires 2 things: the period and "g". What the heck! It's a Wiki: add it! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:16, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br style="clear:left" /><br /> :::::::What the heck! I added it! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:20, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> This calculation is complete crap. The formula for the period of a pendulum assumes a weight at the end of a massless string. This formula doesn't apply to massive ropes without weights on the end. The physics of the two situations is quite different, for example a hanging massive string makes a hyperbolic cosine while a weighted massive string makes a parabola.<br /> :Right you are, although the curving effect is insignificant. But, as you said, you can't assume all the weight is concentrated in one place.<br /> <br /> :For a pendulum with a complicated distribution of mass, such as a hanging rope, the period is<br /> ::T = 2π*sqrt[I/(mgh)],<br /> :where I is the rotational inertia of the pendulum about the pivot point, m is the total mass of the pendulum, and h is the distance from the pivot point to the center of mass. (For a simple pendulum of length L where all of the weight is concentrated at the end, I is equal to mL&sup2;, and h is equal to L. This yields the formula T = 2π*sqrt[L/g], which was used above.)<br /> <br /> :If we assume the mass of the rope is distributed evenly across its length, its rotational inertia is equal to<br /> ::I = 1/3*mL&sup2;,<br /> :and the center of mass is positioned halfway down the length of the rope, so<br /> ::h = 1/2*L.<br /> <br /> :Therefore, the period of oscillation of the rope is<br /> ::T = 2π*sqrt[(1/3*mL&sup2;)/(1/2*mgL)] = 2π*sqrt[2/3*L/g]. Note that the mass of the rope cancels, and again the equation depends only on the period, the length, and g (the acceleration of gravity).<br /> :So given a period of 3.7 seconds and an acceleration of gravity of 9.8 m/s&sup2;, we have<br /> ::3.7 s = 2π*sqrt[2/3*L/(9.8 m/s&sup2;)], which simplifies to:<br /> :::L = 5.1 m (about 17 ft).<br /> <br /> :In this calculation L is the total length of the pendulum, not the length to the center of mass (that’s h). So the total length of the pendulum is 17 ft (not 34 feet).<br /> <br /> :You can’t assume that all the mass of the rope is concentrated at the end, as you can for a simple pendulum: this gives an answer of 11 ft, which is too small. However, you also can’t assume that all the mass of the rope is concentrated at the center, as phlip did, giving an answer of 22 ft. Instead, you must realize that there is mass at the top, the center, and the end, and everywhere in between. Taking the distribution of mass of the rope into account, we get an answer between the two: 17 ft.<br /> <br /> :I know there are knots in the rope, but they are insignificant (unless there are lead weights in them.) Also, as the previous contributor rightly stated, a flexible rope pendulum will tend to curve as it oscillates. But for such small angles, this effect is also insignificant, and it doesn’t much change the center of mass or the rotational inertia. - [[User:Eman|Eman]]<br /> <br /> ::Though I haven't been able to come to the same conclusion from first principles, I found the equation you used in my physics text. I'm going to take Eman's word on this. I think he has come up with the correct answer and this can finally be put to rest. Great jorb, Eman! --[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 23:51, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Nice work, I didn't know about that generalised formula... though I should have remembered that it's not just the position of the centre of mass that matters for a rotating object. {{User:phlip/sig}} 00:29, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The mayor and Dancing bros. ==<br /> <br /> Where should we catagorize them? I like the Dancing bros. enough to make a page about them, but the mayor is just a guy.. with ... a job..?--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:20, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the Dancing Brothers, but I don't think an article about the mayor is a good idea. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 04:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Agreed--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I kinda agree, actully. The dancing Bros defianately need a page, but the mayor... i dunno. [[User:Bubsty|Bubsty]]<br /> <br /> The mayor actually doesn't say anything. He squeaks and Strong Sad says his words. [[User:Catman87]]<br /> <br /> == The Elephant Man ==<br /> <br /> May I add something about the realationship with how Puppet Homestar said that he looked like the elephant man on the DVD Puppet Stuff? --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:36, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> does it take two or three times to be mentioned as an inside joke? it depends on that i think--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:38, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> After research i think that the elphant man is obscure enough to be classified as an inside joke...--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:39, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> So, then what should I do? BTW, thanks! lol --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:41, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The elephant man hasn't ever really seemed obscure to me... Maybe to other people though. But all the same, in those two different contexts, it doesn't seem like an inside joke to me. If there was yet another reference to the elephant man after this, then I'd call it safe to classify it as an inside joke(or more appropriately, a running gag). --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]<br /> <br /> So can I put it in that homestar said it too atleast?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 20:35, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Linking Up==<br /> I think it would be a good idea to link Saddy Dumpington in the inside references section.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 04:40, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Saddy Dumpington's already linked at the top under Characters. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 04:42, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Roger. Sorry! I'm just excited to be helping a little bit with the new toon.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 04:44, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ^^I feel the same way. I'm trying to find something I can do!!! lol --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:45, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Shut up. --Der Pepper<br /> <br /> Der Pepper, comments like that will get you banned. <small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small> 18:59, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Who was he talking to?<br /> <br /> ==Linking to this article==<br /> Should we title the link as Saddy Dumpington (toon), or Saddy Dumpington. I prefer the latter because wherever the link is, people will be able to presue by the text that it is a cartoon.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 04:48, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Saddy Dumpington is already an article about the character.--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 04:49, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I know that, but I talking about using the | thing in the link. I've seen it before for toons.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 04:51, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I vote we should hold off on the desicion until it is on the toons page and then make the visible part of the link say whatever the toons page says.[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 05:05, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> And now we know, "A Folky Tale." So much for that. --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]<br /> <br /> i 'gree<br /> == Article Name ==<br /> <br /> Why is this article not called "The Folky Tale of Saddy Dumpington"? That's what's on the title card. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:50, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> : I think the page should be moved as soon as the title appears on the 'Toons page (which it hasn't yet). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:53, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah, I agree. I won't be surprised if that above is the full title. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:08, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::"A Folky Tale." I was close. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]<br /> <br /> :::I agree with Dot com on this one. Why is the article named the way it is? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:02, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::::As "A Folky Tale," this is how it appears on the Toons menu. The question was asked when this page was called "Saddy Dumpington (toon)." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:11, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::D'oh! I'm not going to the main site enough! Thanks for clarifying! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:13, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::I do believe it is on the Toons page now! --[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 19:15, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Side issue: Should "The Folky Tale of Saddy Dumpington" be a redirect? I guess I could just make one, but... meh. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:19, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::its definately just called "A folky tale." end of disscussion.<br /> == lol ==<br /> <br /> I laughed my butt off at Jargle.. anyone else? Beuler?<br /> <br /> I laugh at Coach Z's accent all the time. I'm with ya there.<br /> :Jargle and turlet just crack me up here. Nice Ferris Beuler thing. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:31, 23 December 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Folk Tale World ==<br /> <br /> I created the page [[Folk Tale World]] i'm bad at writing whole articles, so anyone be my guest.<br /> <br /> :Shouldn't this be more properly called "Folky Tale World" or "Folky Tale Town"? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Ropes and Dopes==<br /> <br /> I'm not sure if the "ropes are for dopes" comment should be kept in the remarks section (at least how it is). Although when people start a story with a quote, the quote is in the story, that is not always true. Maybe it should be in trivia. -[[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 05:16, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :It seems like a remark to me. I find it odd that he used the quote as a transition to tell his story and then never mentioned it in the story itself. He used "passing out for the rest of their lives" to transition back to the rope. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:35, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Rope-a-Dope==<br /> All this talk of ropes and dopes makes me think of Ali's "[[Wikipedia:Rope-a-dope|rope-a-dope]]" strategy vs. George Foreman. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 05:32, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Homsar's line==<br /> <br /> Any idea what Homsar is saying? The best I can make out is "I dazzle men," but that's only a guess. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:00, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :Did he say something about a "mayor?"<br /> :: It's possible. I'm pretty sure I hear a "dazzle", at the very least, but it's hard to tell. I know he's saying ''something'' and don't feel right leaving it as "''{muffled speech}''." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:31, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Sounds like he says "I'm flying with the birds"<br /> <br /> I'm pretty sure he says "I'm a climbable man..."--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 06:43, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :First I heard "I'm a rectangular man" (Which is lined up cinely with his hat) But now it's more like "I'm a (something)able man". {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:53, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Someone just suggested "I'm a powerful man!" At first, I deleted it. After listening more closely, I'm pretty sure that's it. I put it back into the transcript that way. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:08, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hey I heard "I'm a powerfull man" too. It really sounds like that. We can't be sure.<br /> <br /> :::Maybe next week's QotW will reveal all! ;) -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:10, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Sounds to me like "I'm a talented man. - Lord-Z<br /> <br /> :Either "I'm an admirable man" or "I'm a climbable man" is what I think. -Eternal<br /> <br /> ::Looks like someone changed it back to "muffled". Obviously we're not hearing the same thing. Any bets that next week's QotW clears this up? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:37, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Only if TBC are going to read this talk page... {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 15:43, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I personally think it's "I'm square with the man", kinda inspired by the way his hat moves. I guess we really can't say though.. Heh. -[[User:Mick|Mick]]<br /> <br /> I think he says "I'm an honorable man" but climbable makes sense. - [[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master doesn't have weird squiggly things on this computer.]]<br /> <br /> :I think it might be something about Dazzle-Mazing, which could be a reference to [[Happy Fireworks]].<br /> <br /> I always heard "I'm hardly the man." -Kvb<br /> <br /> I definitely hear, "I'm a -----able man," or something very similar. Let's wait and see.<br /> :Yeah, "-----able man" is definitely what I heard. -Eman. <br /> I think it's: "am a miserable man" -[[Eh steve 2000]]<br /> <br /> Something like "I'm man with a man". Before blamming this, be sure to keep in mind that nothing Homsar says has to make sense. Unless scripted.<br /> <br /> Sounds like, "I'm a climbable man." to me! -20X6 GEM<br /> <br /> I hear "climbable man" too, but thats just me. Maybe we could make a footnote for it.<br /> --[[User:Stong Bad|Stong Bad]] 01:36, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> After several reviews, all I can hear now is "I'm a ''hangable'' man." I mean, after all, Homsar is hanging from something. It is important to note I'm not suggesting that he's implying he's being lynched - it's more in the spirit of the lame fill-in-the-blanks game "Hangman." And yes, I realize "hangable" ain't good English, neither. {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}}14:53, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I definitely hear "I'm an honorable man"; the n sound in honorable is rather distinct. It seems more in character for him to say "I'm an honorable mention", however. Of course, Matt could just be holding a rope in his own mouth and mumbling nonsense. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]<br /> <br /> I email them so we will know soon [[Eh steve 2000]]<br /> <br /> I hear "I'm a reliable man." I only played the Easter Egg like 4 times though. Also climable could work because of the rope. [[User:Catman87]]<br /> <br /> My bet is on "I'm the Haddi-Man". Since we all agree on "I'm" and "man" what better word can fit than Haddi? As we all know, Haddi-Man is Homesar in the children's TV show, [[Whaddaya_Know%2C_Haddi-Man%3F]]...[[User:VL-Tone|VL-Tone]] 07:40, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I hear "I'm a huggable man" or "I'm a lovable man". -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|<font color=DC143C>MK and/or BurnBox</font>]] 03:05, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm positive he's saying "I'm elephant man," seeing as that's the line Coach Z just said. [[socetew]]<br /> <br /> I heard "I will go out with a man".<br /> <br /> I heard, "I'm the elephant maaaaan." But then Homsar would be making sense by making fun of Strong Sad! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:34, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I heard "I'm half a man"- which would make sense because only half of him is on screen. -tuesrig<br /> <br /> I say I heard "I'm the lyrical plan"<br /> <br /> I believe he said "I'm a magical man" -- [[User:EMJS|EMJS]]<br /> <br /> What about "I'm a sad little man"? I deffinitely heard the word "Little" in there.<br /> <br /> :He could just be mumbling. --[[User:Sam Goldfish|Sam Goldfish]] 20:49, 18 October 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> LOL&mdash;this is a monument to Homsar's ability to speak to all. (In like, a couple different languages, even!) Sure, a lot of the 'toons engender differences in what people hear, but there are usually only two opinions, and close, amplified listening proves one. Here, I count '''21''' different interpretations, all by people listening to the ''same'' line! Maybe it's kind of an auditory [[Wikipedia:Rorschach inkblot test|Rorschach test]]... &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:36, 1 November 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Truly, this line of Homsar (which is still "I'm a hangable man" as far as I'm concerned) is what one wants it to be. There will ''never'' be a consensus, much like it cannot be proven that gravity exists. Go ahead, I dare you.  &mdash; {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 15:03, 1 December 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I listened closely, and heard the "b" in "able" more like a "th". I hear "I admire the man". That's the only thing I ear. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:38, 23 December 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : I hear "I am one with the ??". ''[[User:Maggot Man|<font color="Blue">Maggot Man</font>]] ''([[User talk:Maggot Man|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 20:38, 14 June 2006 (UTC)''<br /> <br /> From what I could make out, he says "I'm Round and Round"... [[User:KKyuubi|KKyuubi]] 14:06, 27 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> He's definitely saying something; it's not just mumbling. I can make out VERY CLEARLY, "I'm an ????? man", and having listened to it over and over, the third word is either "honorable" or "horrible", and it sounds more like "honorable" to me. Note that, like most of Homsar's lines, this isn't complete nonsense (IMO Complete nonsense is something like "The flying kitties ate my supper!"), but a normal phrase, just out of context. {{User:Raised by Coffee/sig}} 22:23, 12 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Martbell ==<br /> <br /> Could this be some nod at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Bell Art Bell]? Those weird "dancing brothers" sure fit in with that hypothesis.<br /> <br /> Haha or maybe not. I just wanted to have this on here because that's what it made me think of. [[User:64.164.69.221|64.164.69.221]] 11:36, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> It definately sounds like something Art would do. His guest would be Glenn (Whom?) and the product would be the Killer Dynamo.<br /> <br /> == Old Intro? ==<br /> <br /> :When Saddy Dumpington walks through the field and is silhouetted by the sun, could it be a reference to [[Old Intro 2]]? Should I add this to Inside References or STUFF or what? I'm new at this. - Eternal<br /> ::There's many other instances of characters silhouetted against the sun. - [[User:Alcnolien|Alcnolien]]<br /> <br /> ==Jargle=Gargle?==<br /> Another instance of "G-pronounced-J"? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:12, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :I don't think so. It seems to be a mutation of the word "jargon." &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:15, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Jargon? I've heard "gargle" used in the sense of "nonesense" or "gobbledygook". -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:19, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :I think it's a mangling of "gibberish" {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:51, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I think that we should add this as a fact and add this to [[G]] {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:33, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Look? ==<br /> <br /> I don't know if my speakers are broken or what, but I hear something different for Strong Sad's first line. It sounds ambigously explicit to me. I certainly don't hear "Look," as indicated on the transcript, and I seem to hear a bit of an F sound. Does anybody else hear what I (kinda) hear?<br /> : If you're implying what I think you're implying, then no. TBC have made it clear that any language more foul than "crap" is not to appear on homestarrunner.com. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:14, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> : PS. Maybe you're hearing the "S" at the end of Coach Z's "times" (which is ungrammatical, but Coach Z makes the ''very same mistake'' earlier in the same line, so...) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:19, 23 Aug 2005 <br /> :I think I heard SS say something like "flook".<br /> (UTC)<br /> :I do hear the "F" word, but I don't think that's what TBC had in mind. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:45, 18 November 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Are Infintesimally Small Imperfections Really Goofs?==<br /> I think it's a very bad idea to set the precedent that very very small color differences are somehow goofs worth noting. I'm sure if we looked hard enough, we could find numerous "goofs" of that sort in every single cartoon. It's my opinion that goofs worth noting involve continuity mistakes in either the story line or gross features of the artwork, not some miniscule color differences in a tiny 50 square pixel area of the frame. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:30, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :I dunno. This one I find kinda interesting. TBC have been making toons for a while now. They're not what you would call novices. They have the tools and the talent to get it right at this stage of the game. It's not like those old ''Scooby-Doo'' cartoons. You know, where the trap door stands out because it's painted in a slightly different color of blue from the rest of the floor. In that case, the door and the floor were created using two completely different means, so it was almost impossible to get right. In the case of this toon, however, getting the color right should just have been a matter of selecting the eyedropper tool and choosing the background. I do agree with you that we have to draw a line somewhere, though. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:38, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::Here's a description of the alleged goof: "the green is only 1/128 different. I had to zoom WAY in to be sure of this." Apart from being a good observation, is this really this level of "perfection" that we should expect from H*R? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:40, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I don't think we expect perfection (what we expect is beside the point). The fact is that it should have been one color (#007E00), and instead it was another (#008000). That's the very definition of a goof. The difference is ever so slight, true, but once it's pointed out, it's very obvious, at least to me. This project is a complete chronicle of H*R. I think any fact should be included that is so easily verifiable. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:50, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I understand what you're saying. I think we both agree that there is a limit to what should reasonably be noted. I just happen to think that this one lies outside that limit. I'm a little concerned that this'll set a precedent that'll send all the 12 year-olds off combing every frame at high-zoom looking for "goofs". ;)-- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:58, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Wait, can you STUFF a goof?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 18:47, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Yes, goofs can be STUFF'd. But if we do, we need to be careful. We need to make it absolutely clear that the decision on this fact has the potential to set precedent, whether we accept it or decline it. Another possibility would be to have a discussion in a more central location, like [[HRWiki_talk:Standards]], to decide just where the line on goofs should be. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:54, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> This is ''not'' infintessimally small. It's not blaringly obvious, but it's clearly visible without zooming in if you know to look for it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:17, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :And relating to this, I didn't even have to look. It's obvious to anyone sailing their eyes about the screen, and I know I was sure of the error without zooming in for a better look. Even if one doesn't see the green, the imperfection in the line, as well as the discolouration, is easily noticed. It's not infintesimally small, as was said, it's rather obvious that there's a discolouration in line and lawn. And relating to the Scooby-Doo point, yes, there may have been a more brightly coloured trapdoor against a darker floor, BUT both shades were not present on either object of the two, whereas here we have what should be an outright solid fill, interrupted. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 20:12, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: The reason why we could see trapdoors in Scooby-Doo is because of how cartoons were made in the old days. The background was hand painted on some paper or cardboard, then, celluloids with painted characters were overlaid on top of it and animated. The background was not animated, except for panning and zooming. The paint used on cells was different and had different reflectivity index than the background. The background also had more texture and shadowing than the animated parts on cells, which were painted with uniform, unshaded colors. So that made the traps on walls and the floor very obvious. You could also guess when a statue, supposedly in the background, would suddenly start to move :) [[User:VL-Tone|VL-Tone]] 08:03, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Hay!==<br /> <br /> A new toon! Is it good, I have yet to see it? -[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 18:46, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Champo.. The HR Wiki-ers were all over this toon like white on rice... It was up for 10 seconds before the page started to take form.. in the matter of 3 hrs. It was done, waiting for an official title... I was amazed.. It was like a bunch a little carpenters building a skycraper in like 5 minutes...--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 18:51, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> What the bleep are you talking about? I just saw it and the statements you made make no scence? Whater you speeching aboot?<br /> <br /> I think he was saying that indeed, it is good, and you need only look at the Wiki (or go to the forum thread) to find that out. [[User:71.115.224.254|71.115.224.254]] 07:02, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Coach X? Coach Y? ==<br /> <br /> Any thoughts on Coaches X and Y? <br /> Could they be related to Coach Z?<br /> Will we hear of them again? --[[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]] 19:29, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :Knowing TBC, I expect to see some sketches or cameo appearances in the future. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:27, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> : Whatcha think they'll look like?<br /> <br /> I wouldn't be surprised if they were made up by Coach Z, in an attempt to act like he has friends. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]<br /> <br /> After all, there is [[Coach Zed]], and Coach "Backwards N." --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 03:23, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I think he was just using those names as a metaphor for any other average person. [[User:SA2Tails|SA2Tails]] 00:13, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Title Screen ==<br /> <br /> Yes, there is one, and this is it.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 19:48, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC) [[Image:saddy title screen.png|thumb|Title Screen]]<br /> :Is that really the toon's title screen, or the title screen of the beginning of Saddy Dumpington's toon? I think it is the latter, making it not title screen to the toon, and also making this big toon titleless.<br /> :: Yes, it is. The rope climbing bit is only an intro to the Saddy Dumpington 'toon; Saddy Dumpington is the true star of this one. It's a [[Wikipedia:cold open|cold open]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:17, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::: The real debate is if it is a cold open or not. I don't believe it is, I believe the toon is Strong Sad telling the story to Coach Z, and not the story itself. I believe this because of the commentary on the story (The Dancing Brothers for example).<br /> ::::Even if you don't consider the cold open to be a cold open, the fact that there may be no title shown still isn't that notable. None of the last three big toons have had credits to speak of. TBC seem to have moved away from full credits for a while (probably won't be until Halloween until we see any again, if then). &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:54, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::::: But this is the first toon to have no title at all. The other toons had a title, this one just jumps into the action. I doubt they will ever include credits if this is the path they are going for.<br /> <br /> == The Lake ==<br /> <br /> It might be just me, but when I saw the lake in this toon, it reminded me of the pebble lake from peasant's quest. I'm not sure if we should really put it in there though.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 20:38, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I heard him ==<br /> <br /> I thought I heard Homsar say "I'm the lyrical plan" Did anyone else? -Kinsey<br /> : I think everybody heard something different; see ''"Homsar's line"'' section above --[[User:Fig Laser|Fig Laser]] 23:46, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> I thought I heard him say"Irm a Pwerfull Mrn!" Which sounded to me like "I'm a powerfull man!" Anyone else hear this?<br /> I thought I heard "I'm Gone with the Wind".<br /> <br /> == new page? ==<br /> <br /> Should we have a page on that girl in the beginning?<br /> <br /> I would say no. She's an even more minor character than the mayor. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 18:12, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == First time?... ==<br /> <br /> Is it just me or is this the first time there've been two full-length cartoons released a week between? Certainly that's notable... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:47, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :I sense a Toons DVD coming somewhere on the horizon (Probably with the first 10 of TGS and Marzipan's Answering Machine Included). That would make the most sense. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:31, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> ::I proposed that we make the quick turn around a fun fact for the toon. be sure to vote on it. --[[User:Fig Laser|Fig Laser]] 23:43, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::I hope they continue making DVD versions of toons on the site. I love the commentary on the first two. I hope a toons DVD doesn't eliminate any online commentary. I'd rather believe TBC is just bored of constant SB E-Mails and would like to strech their creativity. Notice the lack of Strong Bad?<br /> ::::I do notice. And honestly, I'm vera happy! I mean, I think SB is awexome, but there was just too much! I was thinking the site was gonna be renamed StrongBad.com! 8-P [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:39, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==vandilism==<br /> when i clicked on "homsar filmography" and theres a vandil that says sb e-mail interview is sb e-mail juifsdh it says juifsdh on the top of the page!i'm not in the troll comitty but can someone change this?<br /> <br /> ''You can change it yourself. This is a wiki; anyone can edit it.''<br /> <br /> == Isn't that Great? ==<br /> <br /> Sorry, I was a tad bored. Who else loved this one? I sure did! (Being a creepy Strong Sad fan.) - [[User:Brittany|Brittany]] - "What's a Gothling?"<br /> <br /> hehe. Strong Sad is my favorite character, as well, so yes, I loved this cartoon. As an aside, I only really like the newer Strong Sad, as the old one was '''way''' too whiny and depressing. The present-day Strong Sad almost seems to want to crack a smile at times, which is good to see. - [[User:Bruce|Bruce]]<br /> <br /> Deffenately. Strong Sad is my favorite character, too, but most people don't like him very much. Or, they love him, but they don't want to say it! - [[User:Brittany|Brittany]]<br /> <br /> Strong Sad seems to be showing a bit of his brother's violent streak, or at least Strong Bad's tendancy to abuse characters. Poor Dancing Brothers.... Abused like the TGS before you.... -[[User:Alcnolien|Alcnolien]]<br /> <br /> Oh, I love Strong Sad, and I admit it...too much...I have his figurine on my bedside table and I love wearing his T-Shirt.<br /> <br /> == Which field ==<br /> The article claims the location is [[The Athletic Field]], but I believe it's [[The Field]] instead -- the difference being the trees (bushes?) in the background. Maybe given that [[Coach Z]] is involved, it makes sense that it would be the Athletic field instead, but the look is certainly that of the plain old Field. Maybe this is a goof?<br /> <br /> :I used to think the same thing. I even went so far as to change it, until I realized that, like everything in Free Country, USA, the Athletic Field's appearance has changed over the years. Once a very bright green and quite cartoony, it has now taken on the characteristics of the Field. In fact, according to Bubs' Yearbook Page (and supported by [[different town]], if it can be trusted), the Athletic Field is very close to the concession stand, which actually puts it ''in'' the Field. So... you're partially right, but it's more accurate to say the action happens in the Athletic Field. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:45, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thy Dungeonman Reference ==<br /> <br /> Hey everyone,<br /> <br /> First I want to say how useful and interesting this site is! It seems to have everything you'd want to know about homestarrunner.com and more...<br /> <br /> I recently added an edit to Inside References, noting that one of the lines that Coach Z says seems to come from the Videlectrix game "Thy Dungeonman". Coach Z says "Never you mind" to Strong Sad, which is also the reply that you would get from "Thy Dungeonman" if you type "Get Flask". Does anyone else think that it is a valid connection? The edit was deleted, and I'm just curious to see what other people might think.<br /> : It's too generic. It may not be as common as "never mind", but it ''has'' been heard in contexts that have nothing to do with, or even predate, Thy Dungeonman. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:59, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :: Well, since I was the one who deleted it, I ''was'' going to explain myself. Turns out my reasoning is the same as Jay's. But welcome to the wiki, Anonymous, and I'm glad you like it here. Have you considered [[Special:Userlogin|registering a username]]? &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:03, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br /> :::Thanks for the replies! I don't think I'll register yet, but I still think this is a great site!<br /> <br /> == Homsar hanging ==<br /> I see a resemblance to Homsar's character page. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:06, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> :I know what you mean, but I don't consider that notable enough to point it out here. However, I can see it being put on Homsar's wiki page. "Homsar has the peculiar ability to defy gravity at a whim, as seen in the toon "A Folky Tale" and his character page." Yeah...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:44, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Closed Stuff ==<br /> <br /> {{stuffcloseddecline}}<br /> === Gonna have a good STUFF tonight! ===<br /> {{stufffact|The song The Dancing Brothers sing is very similar to a part of the theme song for the 1970s TV show [[Wikipedia:Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids|Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids]].}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|18:34, 8 February 2006 (UTC)|23:46, 15 February 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|14|2|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffcloseddecline}}<br /> === I like the Sprite in you ===<br /> {{stufffact|When Strong Sad pretends to faint, his body is in the same exact position as when he passes out in email 91 caffeine, including mouth, body, hand, and foot position.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|21:00, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)|21:02, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|14|3|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffclosedaccept}}<br /> === Ropes are for dopes ===<br /> {{stufffact|Strong Sad says that "Ropes are for dopes" is a quote from the legendary folk hero he made up, but neither ropes nor dopes are mentioned in the story itself.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|05:37, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)|05:37, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)|accepted|34|26|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffcloseddecline}}<br /> === Talkin' 'bout crazy cool medallions ===<br /> {{stufffact|The Dancing Brothers' style of singing and dancing resembles the style of another group of brothers, The Bee Gees.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|13:44, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)|17:05, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)|declined|9|1|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffcloseddecline}}<br /> === Kinda depressing, ain't it? ===<br /> {{stufffact|The Dancing Brothers bear a striking resemblance to the circle-face characters seen in ads for [http://www.zoloft.com Zoloft], a prescription anti-depressant drug.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|20:33, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)|05:40, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|13|1|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffcloseddecline}}<br /> === Weird Snake & Friends ===<br /> {{stufffact|The "Weird Snake" costume Saddy wore in the village is in the style of Barney the Purple Dinosaur from [[Wikipedia:Barney & Friends|Barney & Friends]], a TV show for kids.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|16:00, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)|03:02, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|17|4|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> {{stuffclosedaccept}}<br /> === Main character absence ===<br /> {{stufffact|This is the first 'toon on Homestarrunner.com that features members of the main cast, but neither Homestar Runner nor Strong Bad make an appearance.}}<br /> {{stuffverdict|06:58, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)|08:15, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)|accepted in a landslide|22|4|A Folky Tale}}<br /> <br /> == rasmoH ==<br /> <br /> Interesting glitch in the flash file. If you re-size your browser window at the end to see all of Homsar, the letters on his shirt are right side up, but backwards. Isn't that great? (sorry, couldn't resist.)--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:01, 2 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Fat Albert? ==<br /> <br /> The song The Dancing Brothers sing is very similar to a part of the theme song for the 1970's TV show [[Wikipedia:Fat Albert|Fat Albert]]. Does anyone else agree?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 18:28, 8 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> *Hold on... I'll stuff it--{{User:Benol/sig}} 18:29, 8 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Worth Mentioning? ==<br /> <br /> I was think about it:<br /> The easter egg showing homsar holding the rope really created more questions than it answered as to what the rope attached to. Namely:<br /> <br /> * Can Homsar support the weight of strong sad with his mouth? (did he think he could?, did he think at all?)<br /> <br /> * Did Coach Z give the rope to him to hold? did he see homsar there and bring the rope to him? Did he just find the rope hanging down and decide to have people climb it?<br /> <br /> * How is Homsar even there?<br /> <br /> Well I think the last one is answered.<br /> In Narrator we see him floating mid air in a brief clip of one of these "up coming movies" so it's possible that he just has the power to fly (mabye it's why his hat always flies off but returns) and so he simply flew up there and held the rope but just rarely uses this power (or at least of what we see of him)<br /> Worth mentioning?<br /> <br /> :While that is a good theory, we usually don't include stuff like this in articles because it's just speculation, which is unencyclopedic. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:56, 7 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Just keep in mind the description from [[Homsar|Homsar's character page]]: Homsar is nonsense incarnate. That's probably the only explanation anyone needs. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 05:21, 7 March 2006 (UTC)</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee User:Raised by Coffee 2006-08-01T18:31:32Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div>AAaaaAaaaAAAAAllo there! I'm a Homsar fan, as you can probably tell by my username. <br /> <br /> I'll add more stuff when I feel like it.</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee User:Raised by Coffee 2006-08-01T18:30:46Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div><body bgcolor="#0090ff" text="#0814ff" link="#0090ff" alink="#0090ff" vlink="#0090ff" background="bg.jpg"><br /> <br /> <table width="550" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" bgcolor="#00beff" style="1px" align="center"><br /> <tr><br /> <td valign="top" width="352" style="text-align:justify;"><br /> <br /> <table width="352" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" bgcolor="#7bf1ff" style="1px" align="center"><br /> <img src="i'll put an image here later"><br /> <tr><td height="352" align="left" valign="top">` </td></tr><br /> </table><br /> <br /> Just testing.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> </td><br /> <br /> <td valign="top"><br /> <br /> <table width="181" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" bgcolor="#3edde7" style="1px" align="center"><br /> <tr><td><br /> Testingggggg!<br /> </td></tr><br /> </table><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> </td><br /> </tr><br /> <tr><br /> </div><br /> </td><br /> </tr><br /> </table><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> </body><br /> </html></div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/File:Rbcsig.png File:Rbcsig.png 2006-08-01T00:54:23Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: /* Summary */</p> <hr /> <div>== Summary ==<br /> A small image of [[Modestly Hot Homsar]] for use in Raised By Coffee's (my) signature. <br /> <br /> {{personal-image-sig|Raised By Coffee}}{{web-screenshot}}</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/File:Rbcsig.png File:Rbcsig.png 2006-08-01T00:53:54Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: /* Summary */</p> <hr /> <div>== Summary ==<br /> A small image of [[Modestly Hot Homsar]] for use in Raised By Coffee's (my) signature. <br /> <br /> {{personal-image-sig|Raised_By_Coffee}}{{web-screenshot}}</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/File:Rbcsig.png File:Rbcsig.png 2006-08-01T00:53:36Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div>== Summary ==<br /> A small image of [[Modestly Hot Homsar]] for use in Raised By Coffee's (my) signature. <br /> <br /> {{personal-image-sig|Raised_By_Coffee}}{web-screenshot}}</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee/sig User:Raised by Coffee/sig 2006-08-01T00:44:09Z

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Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee/sig User:Raised by Coffee/sig 2006-08-01T00:43:39Z

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Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Tompkins Tompkins 2006-08-01T00:36:41Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Kiddie_Tompkins.PNG|thumb|left|220px|He never made it out of training pants...]]<br /> [[Image:tompkinteen.png|thumb|right|140px|...or ''did'' he?]]<br /> '''Tompkins''' is a little boy that taunted the [[Teen Girl Squad]] in their preschool days. When the girls taunt him back, he runs off and dies. When he dies, his body is cut into thirds. Torso takes silver, and apparently, head takes bronze, leaving legs in first. His toddler voice sounds quite similar to that of [[Lil' Strong Bad]]. He was also in [[rock opera]], where he is shown laughing at and pointing to [[Anonymous]]. He is seen as a teenager in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]], where he is called to Prinicpal (sic) [[Strong Bad]]'s office (he is in every issue after this except for the short in [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]). [[So and So]] thinks he's a renegade, and as The Overachiever Bandit, she even finished the rest of his pre-algebra homework, earning him an A++++++. After So and So and [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Brett Bretterson|Brett Bretterson]] become splittsville she attempted to get to first base with him in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]], but he rejected her whilst playing his [[Wikipedia:Game Boy|Game Boy]]. He is also the only character with braces, and he has red hair.<br /> <br /> In the commentary for [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7#Commentary Transcript|Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]], [[The Brothers Chaps]] state that Tompkins is based on their young cousin. He has threatened to push them down into some snakewater, as Tompkins does to the girls. <br /> <br /> ==Filmography==<br /> *'''Debut:''' [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]]<br /> *[[:Category:Tompkins Filmography|Complete Filmography]]<br /> <br /> {{Teen Girl Squad}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Teen Girl Squad Characters]]</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Raised_by_Coffee User talk:Raised by Coffee 2006-08-01T00:24:13Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div><div class=usermessage><p style="margin: 0.5em 0 0.5em;"><span style="font-variant: small-caps;"><br /> ==[[Weclome]]==<br /> __NOEDITSECTION__<br /> <font color=green>Welcome, {{PAGENAME}}, to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki!''' We truly are glad to have you as a member. If you ever need any help with ''anything'', feel free to ask anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|welcoming committee]]. We're always happy to help. You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]].</font><br /> <br /> <font color=red>Here are some tips to help get you started:<br /> * If you need general information, editing tips, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents|help]] page.<br /> * Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]].<br /> * Read up on the rules and guidelines for your [[HRWiki:User space|user page]] so you don't accidentely break any of them.<br /> * If you're not sure what you can do to help out, head over to our community portal, [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]]. There you'll find a variety of projects that will assist the Wiki.<br /> * If you're looking for more community interaction, check out our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum] and become a registered member.<br /> * Check out the [[HRFWiki:Main Page|Fanstuff wiki]]!<br /> * Above all, be sure to '''be bold''' with your editing and have fun!<br /> * If you want a sig (Example: --{{User:the thing/sig}}) ask [[User:The thing|Me]].<br /> <br /> </font><br /> <br /> <br /> <font color=blue>Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. After all, your user page belongs to you. I know that this Wiki can seem like a big and complicated place at first. Trust me, we all know what that's like! Anyway, I hope this information is helpful to you, and that you'll have a good experience contributing to our knowledge-base and our community.</font><br /> <br /> I mean what I say Really,<br /><br /> {{User:The thing/sig}}, and "[[HRWiki:Welcoming_committee|The Homestar Runner Wiki Welcoming Committee]]"</span></p></div><br /> <br /> Heh. Thanks for the welcome! I'm familiar with rules and such as I edit Wikipedia when I <del>have nothing better to do</del> want to contribute. :] I've been lurking around here for a couple days, so I decided to sign up. {{User:Raised by Coffee/sig}}</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Raised_by_Coffee User talk:Raised by Coffee 2006-08-01T00:23:20Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div><div class=usermessage><p style="margin: 0.5em 0 0.5em;"><span style="font-variant: small-caps;"><br /> ==[[Weclome]]==<br /> __NOEDITSECTION__<br /> <font color=green>Welcome, {{PAGENAME}}, to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki!''' We truly are glad to have you as a member. If you ever need any help with ''anything'', feel free to ask anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|welcoming committee]]. We're always happy to help. You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]].</font><br /> <br /> <font color=red>Here are some tips to help get you started:<br /> * If you need general information, editing tips, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents|help]] page.<br /> * Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]].<br /> * Read up on the rules and guidelines for your [[HRWiki:User space|user page]] so you don't accidentely break any of them.<br /> * If you're not sure what you can do to help out, head over to our community portal, [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]]. There you'll find a variety of projects that will assist the Wiki.<br /> * If you're looking for more community interaction, check out our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum] and become a registered member.<br /> * Check out the [[HRFWiki:Main Page|Fanstuff wiki]]!<br /> * Above all, be sure to '''be bold''' with your editing and have fun!<br /> * If you want a sig (Example: --{{User:the thing/sig}}) ask [[User:The thing|Me]].<br /> <br /> </font><br /> <br /> <br /> <font color=blue>Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. After all, your user page belongs to you. I know that this Wiki can seem like a big and complicated place at first. Trust me, we all know what that's like! Anyway, I hope this information is helpful to you, and that you'll have a good experience contributing to our knowledge-base and our community.</font><br /> <br /> I mean what I say Really,<br /><br /> {{User:The thing/sig}}, and "[[HRWiki:Welcoming_committee|The Homestar Runner Wiki Welcoming Committee]]"</span></p></div><br /> <br /> Heh. Thanks for the welcome! I'm familiar with rules and such as I edit Wikipedia when I <del>have nothing better to do</del> want to contribute. :] I've been lurking around here for a couple days, so I decided to sign up. {{User:Raised by Coffee/sig}} 00:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC)</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Raised_by_Coffee User talk:Raised by Coffee 2006-08-01T00:22:44Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div><div class=usermessage><p style="margin: 0.5em 0 0.5em;"><span style="font-variant: small-caps;"><br /> ==[[Weclome]]==<br /> __NOEDITSECTION__<br /> <font color=green>Welcome, {{PAGENAME}}, to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki!''' We truly are glad to have you as a member. If you ever need any help with ''anything'', feel free to ask anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|welcoming committee]]. We're always happy to help. You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]].</font><br /> <br /> <font color=red>Here are some tips to help get you started:<br /> * If you need general information, editing tips, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents|help]] page.<br /> * Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]].<br /> * Read up on the rules and guidelines for your [[HRWiki:User space|user page]] so you don't accidentely break any of them.<br /> * If you're not sure what you can do to help out, head over to our community portal, [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]]. There you'll find a variety of projects that will assist the Wiki.<br /> * If you're looking for more community interaction, check out our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum] and become a registered member.<br /> * Check out the [[HRFWiki:Main Page|Fanstuff wiki]]!<br /> * Above all, be sure to '''be bold''' with your editing and have fun!<br /> * If you want a sig (Example: --{{User:the thing/sig}}) ask [[User:The thing|Me]].<br /> <br /> </font><br /> <br /> <br /> <font color=blue>Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. After all, your user page belongs to you. I know that this Wiki can seem like a big and complicated place at first. Trust me, we all know what that's like! Anyway, I hope this information is helpful to you, and that you'll have a good experience contributing to our knowledge-base and our community.</font><br /> <br /> I mean what I say Really,<br /><br /> {{User:The thing/sig}}, and "[[HRWiki:Welcoming_committee|The Homestar Runner Wiki Welcoming Committee]]"</span></p></div><br /> <br /> Heh. Thanks for the welcome! I'm familiar with rules and such as I edit Wikipedia when I <del>have nothing better to do</del> want to contribute. :] I've been lurking around here for a couple days, so I decided to sign up. {{User:Raised by Coffee/sig}}00:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Raised_by_Coffee User talk:Raised by Coffee 2006-08-01T00:20:56Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div><div class=usermessage><p style="margin: 0.5em 0 0.5em;"><span style="font-variant: small-caps;"><br /> ==[[Weclome]]==<br /> __NOEDITSECTION__<br /> <font color=green>Welcome, {{PAGENAME}}, to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki!''' We truly are glad to have you as a member. If you ever need any help with ''anything'', feel free to ask anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|welcoming committee]]. We're always happy to help. You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]].</font><br /> <br /> <font color=red>Here are some tips to help get you started:<br /> * If you need general information, editing tips, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents|help]] page.<br /> * Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]].<br /> * Read up on the rules and guidelines for your [[HRWiki:User space|user page]] so you don't accidentely break any of them.<br /> * If you're not sure what you can do to help out, head over to our community portal, [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]]. There you'll find a variety of projects that will assist the Wiki.<br /> * If you're looking for more community interaction, check out our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum] and become a registered member.<br /> * Check out the [[HRFWiki:Main Page|Fanstuff wiki]]!<br /> * Above all, be sure to '''be bold''' with your editing and have fun!<br /> * If you want a sig (Example: --{{User:the thing/sig}}) ask [[User:The thing|Me]].<br /> <br /> </font><br /> <br /> <br /> <font color=blue>Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. After all, your user page belongs to you. I know that this Wiki can seem like a big and complicated place at first. Trust me, we all know what that's like! Anyway, I hope this information is helpful to you, and that you'll have a good experience contributing to our knowledge-base and our community.</font><br /> <br /> I mean what I say Really,<br /><br /> {{User:The thing/sig}}, and "[[HRWiki:Welcoming_committee|The Homestar Runner Wiki Welcoming Committee]]"</span></p></div><br /> <br /> Heh. Thanks for the welcome! I'm familiar with rules and such as I edit Wikipedia when I <del>have nothing better to do</del> want to contribute. :] I've been lurking around here for a couple days, so I decided to sign up. {{User:Raised by Coffee/sig}} 00:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Raised_by_Coffee User talk:Raised by Coffee 2006-08-01T00:17:27Z

<p>Raised by Coffee: </p> <hr /> <div><div class=usermessage><p style="margin: 0.5em 0 0.5em;"><span style="font-variant: small-caps;"><br /> ==[[Weclome]]==<br /> __NOEDITSECTION__<br /> <font color=green>Welcome, {{PAGENAME}}, to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki!''' We truly are glad to have you as a member. If you ever need any help with ''anything'', feel free to ask anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|welcoming committee]]. We're always happy to help. You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]].</font><br /> <br /> <font color=red>Here are some tips to help get you started:<br /> * If you need general information, editing tips, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents|help]] page.<br /> * Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]].<br /> * Read up on the rules and guidelines for your [[HRWiki:User space|user page]] so you don't accidentely break any of them.<br /> * If you're not sure what you can do to help out, head over to our community portal, [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]]. There you'll find a variety of projects that will assist the Wiki.<br /> * If you're looking for more community interaction, check out our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum] and become a registered member.<br /> * Check out the [[HRFWiki:Main Page|Fanstuff wiki]]!<br /> * Above all, be sure to '''be bold''' with your editing and have fun!<br /> * If you want a sig (Example: --{{User:the thing/sig}}) ask [[User:The thing|Me]].<br /> <br /> </font><br /> <br /> <br /> <font color=blue>Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. After all, your user page belongs to you. I know that this Wiki can seem like a big and complicated place at first. Trust me, we all know what that's like! Anyway, I hope this information is helpful to you, and that you'll have a good experience contributing to our knowledge-base and our community.</font><br /> <br /> I mean what I say Really,<br /><br /> {{User:The thing/sig}}, and "[[HRWiki:Welcoming_committee|The Homestar Runner Wiki Welcoming Committee]]"</span></p></div><br /> <br /> Heh. Thanks for the welcome! I'm familiar with rules and such as I edit Wikipedia when I <del>have nothing better to do</del> want to contribute. :] I've been lurking around here for a couple days, so I decided to sign up. {{User:Raised_By_Coffee/sig}} 00:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)</div>

Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee/sig User:Raised by Coffee/sig 2006-08-01T00:14:26Z

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Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee/sig User:Raised by Coffee/sig 2006-08-01T00:12:39Z

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Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee/sig User:Raised by Coffee/sig 2006-08-01T00:11:52Z

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Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee/sig User:Raised by Coffee/sig 2006-08-01T00:11:08Z

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Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee/sig User:Raised by Coffee/sig 2006-08-01T00:09:29Z

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Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee/sig User:Raised by Coffee/sig 2006-08-01T00:08:48Z

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Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee/sig User:Raised by Coffee/sig 2006-08-01T00:06:13Z

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Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee/sig User:Raised by Coffee/sig 2006-08-01T00:05:18Z

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Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee/sig User:Raised by Coffee/sig 2006-08-01T00:04:40Z

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Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee/sig User:Raised by Coffee/sig 2006-08-01T00:02:31Z

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Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee/sig User:Raised by Coffee/sig 2006-08-01T00:01:41Z

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Raised by Coffee http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Raised_by_Coffee/sig User:Raised by Coffee/sig 2006-07-31T23:59:47Z

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