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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;The Magic Pixel:&amp;#32;/* Inside References */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{tgsnav|13|Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_12|Issue 12|Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_1|Issue 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Tgs13.png|thumb|&amp;quot;Don't let Timkins play my PSone!&amp;quot;]] &lt;br /&gt;
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[[So And So]] is baby-sitting, but her friends interrupt.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Tompkins}}, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Momkins|Momkins]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Timkins|Baby Timkins]], {{Film|So and So}}, [[Arrow'd Guy]][[Category: Arrow'd Guy Filmography]], {{Film|Cheerleader}}, {{Film|What's Her Face}}, {{Film|The Ugly One}}, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Buttcrack Plumber|Plumber]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Peacey P|Peacey P]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Olympic Man and Coach|Olympic Man]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Policemen|Policemen]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Places:''' [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#Tompkins's House|Tompkins's house]], [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#Hotel Balcony|Hotel Balcony]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Date:''' Monday, June 18th, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Running Time:''' 3:25&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Page Title:''' Bebe's Sitter's Kids!&lt;br /&gt;
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==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
''{The toon opens with Tompkins playing his Game Boy with a silhouette of his mother waving to him.  The Teen Girl Squad theme music plays.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''TOMPKINS:''' Aww, peas Momkins. I don't need a babysitter.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Zoom out to reveal Momkins, a robot wearing cowboy boots and a hat and carrying a pickaxe, along with a baby.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''TOMPKINS:''' I can watch baby Timkins while you go out prospecting for future ex-husbands.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''MOMKINS:''' Whatevs little man. You can't even take care of your own virtual pet.&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Cut to a closeup of the Game Boy screen, displaying a bloated pet and the text, &amp;quot;Food: 600%&amp;quot;. Music stops}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''VIRTUAL PET:''' Please stop feeding me!&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Music continues. Tompkins begins mashing the buttons on the Game Boy.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''TOMPKINS:''' Teh heh heh heh heh.&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Cut to Momkins standing next to the front door, which has a large, wrinkly face on it}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''FRONT DOOR:''' Ding dong. Ding dong, yo.&lt;br /&gt;
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''{The door opens to reveal So and So, with fangs.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''SO AND SO:''' Hello Mrs. Tompkinsrobotmomerson. I know I'm 3 hours early, but I wanted to...&lt;br /&gt;
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'''MOMKINS:''' Listen, I'll be at a place until a time. My cell phone number is some numbers. The baby needs stuff. What's poison control? Punch Tompkins in the gut. Good luck.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Momkins rushes out the door with a crazed look on her face and her tongue hanging out of her mouth. Her hat flies off and So and So's hair is disheveled as she leaves.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' She gone!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to So and So speaking to Tompkins, who is playing his Game Boy next to a clock. The clock reads 5:03}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''SO AND SO:''' ''{pointing to her watch}'' Alright Tompkins, it is WAY past your bedtime.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''TOMPKINS:''' ''{pointing at a flustered So and So}'' Listen babysit, I don't need to be babysat. I'll be in my room reorganizing my trenchcoats.&lt;br /&gt;
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''{As Tompkins leaves, a giant baby that resembles the Arrow'd Guy lands on and crushes him. The music stops.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' BABY SAT!&lt;br /&gt;
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'''TOMPKINS:''' Don't let Timkins play my PSone!!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to a Teen Girl Squad title screen, featuring Cheerleader (wearing a dress labeled &amp;quot;Ms. Thang&amp;quot;), The Ugly One, and What's Her Face smashing through a wall. &amp;quot;issue 13&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;by: strong bad&amp;quot; appear in the corners. The theme music plays.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Teen Girl Squad!!! Cheerleader! ''{$15/hour}'' What's Her Face! ''{$4.75/hour}'' The Ugly One! ''{plain yogurt/hour}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to So and So speaking to the other girls next to the smashed wall}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''SO AND SO:''' Not now, you guys. I'm babysitting.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Close up on Cheerleader}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''CHEERLEADER:''' Oh, we know how to babysit... ''{grows hypnotic eyes and fangs, and pulls out a cell phone and several volumes of &amp;quot;Dem Boys&amp;quot;}'' I'll call EACH AND EVERY BOY!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to What's Her Face}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' I'll eat all their food!&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Cut to The Ugly One, wearing a crown and a ruffled collar, holding a remote}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Just call me the queen of pay-per-view! ''{throws off the crown and collar and pushes the remote buttons. The text &amp;quot;t.a.p.s.&amp;quot; appears every time the buttons are pushed}'' I think Ola Toya is fighting Camptown Jr. at Caesar's tonight!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut back to shot of So and So talking to Cheerleader (holding the cell phone), What's Her Face and The Ugly One (holding the remote)}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''SO AND SO:''' SHHH! Keep it down! The baby is studying for the SAT.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to baby Timkins, under a pile of four books labeled &amp;quot;babySAT&amp;quot;}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''TIMKINS:''' Goo goo is ga-ga. Wah wah is ga-ga. ''{raises finger}'' Are all goo goos wah wahs?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to an annoyed Cheerleader, holding her cell phone. Her dress now reads &amp;quot;The future Ms. Thang&amp;quot;.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''CHEERLEADER:''' Dag! None of my regulars are picking up! Let's see who on my B-list!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{The phone rings, and the screen splits to show a plumber answering the call on a plunger.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''PLUMBER:''' Uh, Buttcrack Plumbing!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''CHEERLEADER:''' Hi Randy! I'm babysittin' tonight. Wanna come over and sneak in through the back window?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''PLUMBER:''' And this is for a how many gallon toilet, ma'am?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''CHEERLEADER:''' Bring all your hot friends... they've got two pantries!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{A toilet with a beret, a mustache, a goatee, and a loaf of french bread crushes Cheerleader with a plunger.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' EAU DE TOiLETTE!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''CHEERLEADER:''' So dignified!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to What's Her Face standing between the two pantries}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Wow! 2 pantries! I'll have me a diet soda I s'pose.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{So and So enters, livid with a giant mouth and fangs.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''SO AND SO:''' STOP! How many of those have you had?!?!&lt;br /&gt;
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'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' ''{annoyed}'' Uh, negative one sip.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{So and So holds up a textbook entitled, &amp;quot;&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;urban legends&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; i mean health class&amp;quot;}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''SO AND SO:''' Don't you remember health class? You'll microwave the baby!!&lt;br /&gt;
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'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' ''{holding up a &amp;quot;Diet Brown&amp;quot; can}'' This is Diet Brown, not PCP.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{The Ugly One slides into the room. What's Her Face and So and So look surprised.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Did somebody say Peacey P? I LOVES the Peacey P!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to Peacey P, wearing a jersey labeled &amp;quot;&amp;amp;#9774;y P&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;[Peace symbol]y P&amp;quot;), standing with Olympic Man (with a blurred jersey)}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''PEACEY P:''' Crample-o stow wha clamminuh whaow. My new album drop next sursdai. Ya'll biscuitheads.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{The Ugly One enters with a &amp;amp;#9774;y ([Peace symbol]y) necklace, and a pencil and notepad.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Can a sista get an autograph?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Olympic Man dangles The Ugly One off a balcony}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' DANGLED OFF A HOTEL BALCONY'D!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''THE UGLY ONE:''' That's it?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Zoom out as The Ugly One is dropped from the balcony into a &amp;quot;bayonet tailgate party&amp;quot;}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Uh, and then DROPPED FROM SAID HOTEL BALCONY'D!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''THE UGLY ONE:''' That's better!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to So and So holding a dirty diaper and yelling at baby Timkins}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''SO AND SO:''' What kinda dirty diaper is this?! I told you to alphabetize this stuff!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to Front Door. A surprised So and So is leaning in, still holding the diaper}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''FRONT DOOR:''' BANG! BANG! BANG!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''THE POLICE:''' ''{from behind the door}'' Open up! It's the police!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to a terrified So and So jumping in the air, dropping the diaper}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''SO AND SO:''' AHH! THE POPO! I can't do another nickel!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{So and So jumps into the kitchen sink as background music begins to play.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' GARBAGE DISPOSAL, &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to a shot of the garbage disposal in the sink, with evil eyes and fangs}''&lt;br /&gt;
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WHAT A WAY TO GO! &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Cut to a grinning So and So in the garbage disposal, dancing with a plate, a spoon, a piece of broccoli and a carrot.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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GARBAGE DISPOSAL, &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{All but So and So's arm disappears}''&lt;br /&gt;
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MEET SO AND SO!&lt;br /&gt;
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''{So and So's arm disappears. The plate, spoon, broccoli and carrot look surprised. Music stops and is replaced by the theme music. Cut to the Front Door, where What's Her Face has let two policemen into the house.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Can I help you gentlemen?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''POLICEMAN 1:''' Uh, yes, ma'am. We got a report of us wanting to watch the Ola Toya fight. You mind if we investigate?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''POLICEMAN 2:''' ''{holding up a packet labeled &amp;quot;Snack Mix&amp;quot;}'' I brought snack mix.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to a &amp;quot;confidential&amp;quot; envelope out of which three game cards are removed.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' The Snak Mix, in Tompkins' Parlor, WITH THE PRETZEL STICK!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to a life-sized Snak Mix bag with a monocle, who clubs What's Her Face with a pretzel stick}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' OW! MY STYLE! (or lack thereof)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to Momkins, the two policemen, and baby Timkins sitting on a couch watching TV}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''TV ANNOUNCER:''' ...anuddah vicious right!!!&lt;br /&gt;
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'''POLICEMAN 1:''' I need to put an APB out on some microwave popcorn.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''POLICEMAN 2:''' ''{looking at Momkins}'' I'd like to report a very good-looking robot prospector.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''MOMKINS:''' Awww, shush!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Brief pause. The music stops}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''TIMKINS:''' ''{pointing at Policeman 1}'' You're not my real father!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to the usual &amp;quot;It's over!&amp;quot; screen}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' It's over!&lt;br /&gt;
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==Easter Eggs==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Deliberance.PNG|thumb|Drops Next Sursdai!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Click on the &amp;quot;O&amp;quot; at the end to see a promo for Peacey P's new album.&lt;br /&gt;
:''{The Crample-O Stow Records logo appears. The logo is a gold hand making a C shape in a gold circle. The logo shines a few times. Hip hop music plays in the background}''&lt;br /&gt;
:'''ANNOUNCER:''' Crample-O Stow Records presents...&lt;br /&gt;
:''{Peacey P's album appears}''&lt;br /&gt;
:'''ANNOUNCER:''' ...&amp;quot;Deliberance&amp;quot;, the new album from Peacey P...&lt;br /&gt;
:''{As the announcer says the following words, they appear in yellow zig-zags}''&lt;br /&gt;
:'''ANNOUNCER:''' ...featuring: Large Craig, featuring: The Overripe MC, featuring: Tenerence Love, featuring: Akryllix &amp;amp; 3rd Lung, featuring: Peacey P!&lt;br /&gt;
:'''PEACEY P:''' I'm a guest star on my own album, ya'll biscuitheads!&lt;br /&gt;
:''{The words &amp;quot;Drops Next Sursdai!&amp;quot; appear in a red oval at the bottom. Music fades out.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fun Facts==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Explanations===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wikipedia:Phencyclidine|PCP]], also known as angel dust, is a recreational [[drug]].&lt;br /&gt;
*''[[Wikipedia:Perfume|Eau de Toilette]]'' is [[French]] for a light, low concentrate perfume. &amp;quot;Toilet(te)&amp;quot; is used in an obsolete sense in both English and French to refer to personal grooming, the same sense as &amp;quot;toiletry&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*APB stands for [[Wikipedia:all points bulletin|all points bulletin]], a broadcast issued from one law enforcement agency to another, typically containing information about a wanted suspect.&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Wikipedia:SAT|SAT Reasoning Test]] is a test that is frequently taken prior to entry into college in America and at primary school in the UK.&lt;br /&gt;
**Timkins's line &amp;quot;Goo goo is ga-ga. Wah wah is ga-ga. Are all goo goos wah wahs?&amp;quot; is a [[Wikipedia:Syllogism|syllogism]] of the form &amp;quot;All X are Y. All Z are Y. Are all X Z?&amp;quot; (the correct answer is &amp;quot;not necessarily&amp;quot;). Syllogisms were previously used on the SAT, but were removed in the new edition of the SAT.&lt;br /&gt;
*A &amp;quot;nickel&amp;quot; is slang for a 5-year prison sentence.&lt;br /&gt;
*Olympic Man's jersey is blurred because trademarked logos on clothing are often obscured by the producers of television or music videos when they don't want the logos visible in the final product.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
*This is the first Teen Girl Squad issue to use a [[Wikipedia:Cold open|cold open]] instead of starting immediately with the opening title sequence.&lt;br /&gt;
*This is the first TGS issue since issue #7 in which Strong Bad does not work a variation of himself into the comic.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Remarks===&lt;br /&gt;
*The '2 pantries' are mirror images of one another.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Goofs===&lt;br /&gt;
*The &amp;quot;Loading&amp;quot; frames are not rounded at the corners.&lt;br /&gt;
*Tompkins is misspelled as &amp;quot;Tomkins&amp;quot; on the [[TV Time Toons Menu|Toons menu]] description.&lt;br /&gt;
*Once the police officer starts talking to What's Her Face, a line appears near the doorknob.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Fixed Goofs===&lt;br /&gt;
*Tompkins's name was misspelled as &amp;quot;Tomkins&amp;quot; through the entire toon, except in the Snack Mix sequence (&amp;quot;Tompkins' Parlor&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
*When Cheerleader was telling the plumber to sneak in through the back window, the text read &amp;quot;the through,&amp;quot; while she said &amp;quot;through the.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Inside References===	 &lt;br /&gt;
*When Tompkins' mom answers the door, So and So has [[fangs]].&lt;br /&gt;
*What's Her Face comments about the loss of her [[style]].&lt;br /&gt;
*When Tompkins pushes the buttons on his [[Nintendo|Game Boy]] to feed his virtual pet, the text [[Mashing Go|&amp;quot;m.a.s.h.&amp;quot;]] appears.&lt;br /&gt;
*So and So saying &amp;quot;I can't do another nickel!&amp;quot; is in reference to [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]] when So and So was in jail for shoplifting.&lt;br /&gt;
*Tompkins's mom's name ends with [[Names ending in -erson|-erson]].&lt;br /&gt;
*This issue contains several words or phrases ending in [['d]].&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Deliberance&amp;quot; is a [[portmanteau]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Real-World References===&lt;br /&gt;
*Tompkins's virtual pet resembles a [[Wikipedia:Tamagotchi|Tamagotchi]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Peacey P's name resembles either [[Wikipedia:Eazy E|Eazy E]] or [[Wikipedia:Percee P|Percee P]], and his voice and singing style are very similar to [[Wikipedia:Snoop Dogg|Snoop Dogg]].&lt;br /&gt;
*So and So's line &amp;quot;You'll microwave the baby!!&amp;quot; and the book of urban legends she is holding reference the urban legend of a stoned babysitter [[Snopes:horrors/drugs/babysitter.asp|mistaking a baby for a roast]], and accidentally putting it in the oven (or microwave, in some versions).&lt;br /&gt;
*The lines about the Snack Mix prior to What's Her Face's demise are based on the board game [[Wikipedia:Cluedo|Clue]]. The picture of the Snack Mix on the card resembles Clue character [[Wikipedia:Cluedo_characters|Colonel Mustard]] .&lt;br /&gt;
*The title of the short is a reference to comedian [[Wikipedia:Robin Harris|Robin Harris's]] &amp;quot;B&amp;amp;eacute;b&amp;amp;eacute;'s Kids&amp;quot; stand-up comedy act. After his death, his routine was adapted into a movie, also called [[Wikipedia:Bebe's Kids|&amp;quot;B&amp;amp;eacute;b&amp;amp;eacute;'s Kids&amp;quot;]], the first animated feature with a majority African-American cast.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Ding dong. Ding dong, yo.&amp;quot; is a memorable line from the video for [[Wikipedia:Fat (song)|&amp;quot;Fat&amp;quot;]] by [[Wikipedia:&amp;quot;Weird Al&amp;quot; Yankovic|&amp;quot;Weird Al&amp;quot; Yankovic]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Dangling The Ugly One over the balcony is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Vanilla Ice|Vanilla Ice's]] claim that rap record producer [[Wikipedia:Suge Knight|Marion &amp;quot;Suge&amp;quot; Knight]] hung him up upside down on a hotel balcony in order to get Vanilla Ice to turn over his royalties. This relates to the rapper Peacey P shown earlier in the episode.&lt;br /&gt;
*When the policemen arrive, So and So thinks she is in legal trouble, but all the policemen want is to watch the fight on Pay-per-view. This is a take of a similar scene in [[Wikipedia:Homer vs. Lisa and the 8th Commandment|Homer vs. Lisa and the 8th Commandment]] when Eddie and Lou arrive to watch the fight on Homer's illegal cable hookup.&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Wikipedia:PlayStation#PSone|PSOne]] is a smaller and redesigned version of the [[Wikipedia:PlayStation|PlayStation]] video game console, released by [[Wikipedia:Sony Computer Entertainment|Sony Computer Entertainment]] in 2000.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Ola Toya is fighting Camptown Jr. at Caesar's tonight&amp;quot; is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:De_La_Hoya-Mayweather|De La Hoya-Mayweather Jr. Fight]] at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas in May 2007.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wikipedia:Harrah's Entertainment#Caesars brand|Caesars]] is a casino brand owned by [[Wikipedia:Harrah's Entertainment|Harrah's Entertainment]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[HR:tgs13.html|watch &amp;quot;Teen Girl Squad Issue 13&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[HR:tgs13.swf|view the Flash file for &amp;quot;Teen Girl Squad Issue 13&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Forum:11698|forum thread re: &amp;quot;Teen Girl Squad Issue 13&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>The Magic Pixel</name></author>	</entry>

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		<id>http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:The_Magic_Pixel</id>
		<title>User:The Magic Pixel</title>
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		<id>http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:The_Magic_Pixel</id>
		<title>User:The Magic Pixel</title>
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		<author><name>The Magic Pixel</name></author>	</entry>

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		<id>http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:The_Magic_Pixel</id>
		<title>User:The Magic Pixel</title>
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[[The Cheat Other Costumes]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[more armies]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[One, Two]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>The Magic Pixel</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Has_Matt%3F/Homsar_quotes</id>
		<title>User:Has Matt?/Homsar quotes</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;The Magic Pixel:&amp;#32;/* Other Users' Quotes */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Here is a list of made-up [[Homsar]] quotes compiled by various users, including myself. Feel free to add your own!&lt;br /&gt;
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==My Original Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I'm an original Picasso!&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I'm a taco from the future!&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Look out! Here I come now!&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I live in a broken paddleball!&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Everyone's riding the bullet train!&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;You're a great bargain buy!&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;My mind is a lumberjack party house!&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;The squeaky wheel eats the muffin.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I'm a traveling salesman!&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;My slipper is a fourteen-foot field goal!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Other Users' Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
'''Please add yours at the bottom.'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;popcorn is the latest fashion!&amp;quot; {{User: Seriously/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I shanked the titaniiiiiiiiiic&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Four score and seven pence ago.&amp;quot; --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I came, I saw, I fried the bacon.&amp;quot; --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;All the world's on the back of a tortoise.&amp;quot; --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Lucy, I got some 'splaining to do.&amp;quot; --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I'm a man of quiet intensity.&amp;quot; --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;A fatal exception H*R has occurred.&amp;quot; --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;You can beat the heat with a pound of meat.&amp;quot; --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Within my sock is a land of wonderment.&amp;quot; --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I'm a duck looking for a goat ride.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;It's time to dance the Janger-Beetle.&amp;quot;--{{User:SupremeRulerOfSBadia/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Mr. Anderson, I'd like to retract my statement.&amp;quot; &amp;amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I'm some assembly required.&amp;quot; &amp;amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Have you talked to the sofa today?&amp;quot; &amp;amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I like to help the hamburger.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I'm the President of AaAaAaAaAaorange.&amp;quot; [[User:Bluebry muffin|Bluebry muffin]] 22:15, 14 January 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Please don't step on the daisies.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Me? The butcher? I'd be happy to incarcerate your petunias.&amp;quot; {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}} &lt;br /&gt;
*i'ma go get some chocolate buns, lucy. [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]] 17:48, 23 January 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*When I'm a 64 Elephant man! [[User:Bluebry muffin|Bluebry]] 00:46, 25 January 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Do you know the muffin man?&amp;quot; {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:34, 29 January 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;The color of infinity inside ...&amp;quot; {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 23:46, 29 January 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*DaAaAaAaAaAaAaAbba dabba dooooooo! [[User:Einstein runner|Einstein runner]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I'm a shipwrecked canolie!&amp;quot;-{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 03:26, 5 February 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;So then we take the square root of x and apply it to the quadratic formula in order to further signify the anticlimax of this summation.&amp;quot;-{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 03:26, 5 February 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Strong Sad''': Why are you strapping Fireworks to me? '''Strong Bad''': Hey, shut up and hold Homsar. '''Homsar''' (seen picketed in the field): AouAH! Now my life has seen its burrito! (Is this breaking rules?) School Egg, 10:5 WST &lt;br /&gt;
*No. As for my quote, &amp;quot;Why must the book be later than a soda?&amp;quot; {{User: Seriously/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Why can't we all just get a dog?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;My saxophone fell in the drywall&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I rule the land of chocolate chip and pickle sandwiches&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;The third world beckons the sock warriors!&amp;quot; SantamanBOOO! 7:14 EST&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Is the man larger when he fills a poppy seed cap?&amp;quot; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 02:41, 25 February 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;That disrupts the pattern.&amp;quot; {{User:Granola/sig}} 04:58, 5 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;AaAaAaAaAaAa, I wish I still had a lungs!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;DaAaAaA, happy returns, Admiral!&amp;quot; --[[User:IT'S A LION!|IT'S A LION!]] 17:34, 18 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*AaAaAaAa, hiiiiii-de-ho, Anakin! Help yourself! These three are halfway backwards. --[[User:IT'S A LION!|IT'S A LION!]] 20:05, 20 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Here comes the princess of Rausten.&amp;quot; [[User:Cara Carabowditbowdit|Cara Carabowditbowdit]] 15:40, 12 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Watch OoOout! The windsheild is my basketballlllllll&amp;quot; 17:07 12 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*You'rrre the pickled jeans of Dr.Smith!!&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Yorrrrrrgy Shmorrrrrrrrrgy!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;If you divide the trajectory of the potato by the keyboard,you'll get the book summary.&amp;quot; {{User:SupremeRulerOfSBadia/sig}}]] 00:34, 18 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;AaAaAaAaAaA'hm the only one who can [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|count to purple backwards]], Cheerleader.&amp;quot; --{{User:X-Spider2/X-Sigger2}} 22:07, 23 June 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;WaAaAaAaAaA! T'anks fer  comin' Tito, but our potty's in anudder castle!&amp;quot;--Nicktendo 20X6&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;AaAaAaAaAaAaAaA! It's raining malted mothballs!&amp;quot; (Just kinda struck me one day as a rather Homsarish thing to say.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;This is not the hotdog sandwich.&amp;quot; --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I'm the newer Kenny Rodgers!&amp;quot;--{{User:Cool Tapes.exe/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I have a nasty aftertaste.&amp;quot;--[[User:Scalawag|Scalawag]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Rice isn't for the average dollar store.&amp;quot; --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;AaAaAa guess I'll go blink off to bub's. Blllliiinnnk.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;AaAaAa like pretty ponies!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Ah'm the price of meatballs!&amp;quot; {{User:Visorbot 386/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;AaAaAah'm the original no pants maahn... he stoled my champion to&amp;quot; {{User:Not an S/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
*If Homsar had a line in [[looking old]]...&amp;quot;I'd like Bailey's moon-dwelling chameleon.&amp;quot; (Meaning he'll get a grey-colored iTem) --[[User:Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;What's a question?&amp;quot; [[User:Whats a question?|Whats a question?]] 20:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;AaAaAa! I am one with the pancakes.&amp;quot; --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:18, 4 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;HahHahHah-Happy birthday, [[wikipedia:Peter André|Peter André]]!&amp;quot; --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:44, 4 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;And that's the way the cookie crumbles.&amp;quot; {{User:Saddy_Dumpington/sig}} 12:10, 22 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;You took the words right out of my voOoOoOoOlcano.&amp;quot; - [[User:Bishop|Bishop]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I gotta hankering for some pancakering!&amp;quot; {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:33, 14 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;UauAuAuA! I'ms the 18th century&amp;quot;--[[User:CoachG|CoachG]] 18:05, 14 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*That cheese is fifty-six!----[[User:slipknot6477|slipknot6477]]&lt;br /&gt;
*LoOoook OUT! THeRe a CoRn brEad in YouR panTs! [[User:The Magic Pixel|Pixelated Magic]] 00:44, 20 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>The Magic Pixel</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Has_Matt%3F/Homsar_quotes</id>
		<title>User:Has Matt?/Homsar quotes</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Has_Matt%3F/Homsar_quotes"/>
				<updated>2007-06-20T00:44:44Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;The Magic Pixel:&amp;#32;/* Other Users' Quotes */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Here is a list of made-up [[Homsar]] quotes compiled by various users, including myself. Feel free to add your own!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==My Original Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I'm an original Picasso!&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I'm a taco from the future!&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Look out! Here I come now!&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I live in a broken paddleball!&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Everyone's riding the bullet train!&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;You're a great bargain buy!&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;My mind is a lumberjack party house!&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;The squeaky wheel eats the muffin.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I'm a traveling salesman!&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;My slipper is a fourteen-foot field goal!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Other Users' Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
'''Please add yours at the bottom.'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;popcorn is the latest fashion!&amp;quot; {{User: Seriously/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I shanked the titaniiiiiiiiiic&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Four score and seven pence ago.&amp;quot; --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I came, I saw, I fried the bacon.&amp;quot; --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;All the world's on the back of a tortoise.&amp;quot; --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Lucy, I got some 'splaining to do.&amp;quot; --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I'm a man of quiet intensity.&amp;quot; --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;A fatal exception H*R has occurred.&amp;quot; --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;You can beat the heat with a pound of meat.&amp;quot; --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Within my sock is a land of wonderment.&amp;quot; --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I'm a duck looking for a goat ride.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;It's time to dance the Janger-Beetle.&amp;quot;--{{User:SupremeRulerOfSBadia/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Mr. Anderson, I'd like to retract my statement.&amp;quot; &amp;amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I'm some assembly required.&amp;quot; &amp;amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Have you talked to the sofa today?&amp;quot; &amp;amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I like to help the hamburger.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I'm the President of AaAaAaAaAaorange.&amp;quot; [[User:Bluebry muffin|Bluebry muffin]] 22:15, 14 January 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Please don't step on the daisies.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Me? The butcher? I'd be happy to incarcerate your petunias.&amp;quot; {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}} &lt;br /&gt;
*i'ma go get some chocolate buns, lucy. [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]] 17:48, 23 January 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*When I'm a 64 Elephant man! [[User:Bluebry muffin|Bluebry]] 00:46, 25 January 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Do you know the muffin man?&amp;quot; {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:34, 29 January 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;The color of infinity inside ...&amp;quot; {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 23:46, 29 January 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*DaAaAaAaAaAaAaAbba dabba dooooooo! [[User:Einstein runner|Einstein runner]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I'm a shipwrecked canolie!&amp;quot;-{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 03:26, 5 February 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;So then we take the square root of x and apply it to the quadratic formula in order to further signify the anticlimax of this summation.&amp;quot;-{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 03:26, 5 February 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Strong Sad''': Why are you strapping Fireworks to me? '''Strong Bad''': Hey, shut up and hold Homsar. '''Homsar''' (seen picketed in the field): AouAH! Now my life has seen its burrito! (Is this breaking rules?) School Egg, 10:5 WST &lt;br /&gt;
*No. As for my quote, &amp;quot;Why must the book be later than a soda?&amp;quot; {{User: Seriously/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Why can't we all just get a dog?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;My saxophone fell in the drywall&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I rule the land of chocolate chip and pickle sandwiches&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;The third world beckons the sock warriors!&amp;quot; SantamanBOOO! 7:14 EST&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Is the man larger when he fills a poppy seed cap?&amp;quot; {{User: Seriously/sig}} 02:41, 25 February 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;That disrupts the pattern.&amp;quot; {{User:Granola/sig}} 04:58, 5 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;AaAaAaAaAaAa, I wish I still had a lungs!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;DaAaAaA, happy returns, Admiral!&amp;quot; --[[User:IT'S A LION!|IT'S A LION!]] 17:34, 18 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*AaAaAaAa, hiiiiii-de-ho, Anakin! Help yourself! These three are halfway backwards. --[[User:IT'S A LION!|IT'S A LION!]] 20:05, 20 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Here comes the princess of Rausten.&amp;quot; [[User:Cara Carabowditbowdit|Cara Carabowditbowdit]] 15:40, 12 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Watch OoOout! The windsheild is my basketballlllllll&amp;quot; 17:07 12 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*You'rrre the pickled jeans of Dr.Smith!!&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Yorrrrrrgy Shmorrrrrrrrrgy!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;If you divide the trajectory of the potato by the keyboard,you'll get the book summary.&amp;quot; {{User:SupremeRulerOfSBadia/sig}}]] 00:34, 18 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;AaAaAaAaAaA'hm the only one who can [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|count to purple backwards]], Cheerleader.&amp;quot; --{{User:X-Spider2/X-Sigger2}} 22:07, 23 June 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;WaAaAaAaAaA! T'anks fer  comin' Tito, but our potty's in anudder castle!&amp;quot;--Nicktendo 20X6&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;AaAaAaAaAaAaAaA! It's raining malted mothballs!&amp;quot; (Just kinda struck me one day as a rather Homsarish thing to say.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;This is not the hotdog sandwich.&amp;quot; --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I'm the newer Kenny Rodgers!&amp;quot;--{{User:Cool Tapes.exe/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I have a nasty aftertaste.&amp;quot;--[[User:Scalawag|Scalawag]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Rice isn't for the average dollar store.&amp;quot; --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;AaAaAa guess I'll go blink off to bub's. Blllliiinnnk.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;AaAaAa like pretty ponies!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Ah'm the price of meatballs!&amp;quot; {{User:Visorbot 386/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;AaAaAah'm the original no pants maahn... he stoled my champion to&amp;quot; {{User:Not an S/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
*If Homsar had a line in [[looking old]]...&amp;quot;I'd like Bailey's moon-dwelling chameleon.&amp;quot; (Meaning he'll get a grey-colored iTem) --[[User:Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;What's a question?&amp;quot; [[User:Whats a question?|Whats a question?]] 20:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;AaAaAa! I am one with the pancakes.&amp;quot; --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:18, 4 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;HahHahHah-Happy birthday, [[wikipedia:Peter André|Peter André]]!&amp;quot; --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:44, 4 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;And that's the way the cookie crumbles.&amp;quot; {{User:Saddy_Dumpington/sig}} 12:10, 22 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;You took the words right out of my voOoOoOoOlcano.&amp;quot; - [[User:Bishop|Bishop]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I gotta hankering for some pancakering!&amp;quot; {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:33, 14 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;UauAuAuA! I'ms the 18th century&amp;quot;--[[User:CoachG|CoachG]] 18:05, 14 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*That cheese is fifty-six!----[[User:slipknot6477|slipknot6477]]&lt;br /&gt;
*LoOoook OUT! THeRe a CoRn brEad in YouR panTs!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>The Magic Pixel</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:One_Two,_One_Two</id>
		<title>Talk:One Two, One Two</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:One_Two,_One_Two"/>
				<updated>2007-05-28T21:40:21Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;The Magic Pixel:&amp;#32;/* New &amp;quot;Game&amp;quot;! */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== Bubs' &amp;quot;Anything Goes!&amp;quot; Sausage ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
From what I can tell, [[Bubs]] grinds the following into sausage:&lt;br /&gt;
* Raw t-bone steak&lt;br /&gt;
* Yellow tennis ball (or possibly a lemon)&lt;br /&gt;
* Box of [[General Tso's Chicken]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{User:Jessica Ingmann/sig}} 21:00, 28 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes, that looks right. It's definitely a tennis ball, though. &amp;amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:06, 28 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I can confirm that it is a tennis ball. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 21:08, 28 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Concur. It's the [[part-time job|Super Question Machine]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:10, 28 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== New &amp;quot;Game&amp;quot;! ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is there some sort of &amp;quot;minor games&amp;quot; page I could put the last part on?[[User:The Magic Pixel|Pixelated Magic]] 21:40, 28 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It would be listed under [[Games#Toon Games]], but I really don't think this qualifies as a game. &amp;amp;mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:08, 28 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Why not? [[Homestar Runner and Marzipan Extra Real Dating Sim XR]] does. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:12, 28 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::That game is in a separate Flash file.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:24, 28 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::Ok, let's try... [[Homestar's &amp;quot;Sid&amp;quot; Game]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:32, 28 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::::But that's a game. This is more of an activity. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 21:36, 28 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Well, this has to go somewhere. [[User:The Magic Pixel|Pixelated Magic]] 21:40, 28 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>The Magic Pixel</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://hrwiki.org/wiki/One_Two,_One_Two</id>
		<title>One Two, One Two</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://hrwiki.org/wiki/One_Two,_One_Two"/>
				<updated>2007-05-28T21:36:40Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;The Magic Pixel:&amp;#32;/* Goofs */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[Image:One Two.png|thumb|&amp;quot;One, two, one, two....&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[The King of Town's Grill]], [[The King of Town's Castle]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Gymnasium]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]], [[Club Technochocolate]], [[Bathroom of the Brothers Strong]], [[Outer Space]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Date:''' Monday, May 28, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Running Time:''' 1:33&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Page Title:''' Lookout World!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' One, two, one, two, one, two, one, two... ''{continues in background}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to Strong Mad lifting the cover off The King of Town's grill to reveal The Cheat.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{angry The Cheat noises}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Strong Mad replaces the cover; his reflection is clearly visible}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''STRONG MAD:''' Gah!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{This set of sounds continues in the background; cut to The Poopsmith patting a pile of whatsit}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''THE POOPSMITH:''' ''{noises from the whatsit}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Noise continues in background again; cut back to Strong Mad.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''STRONG MAD:''' Gah!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{All three noises are still playing in background; cut to Bubs grinding various objects into sausages}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''BUBS:''' Ooh! Ah! Rink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink-a...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut back to The Poopsmith.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''THE POOPSMITH:''' ''{noises from the whatsit}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to a 4-way screen split of the four scenes currently going on, sound effects continue.  Then cut to Strong Sad and Coach Z in the gymnasium.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''STRONG SAD:''' Here I go! ''{pats his belly to make noise; scoreboard buzzes}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''COACH Z:''' Atta boy!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{This continues in the background; cut to The King of Town eating marshmallows.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{eating noises}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Eating noises continue in the background; cut back to Homestar Runner walking.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' One, two...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to Coach Z and Strong Sad.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''COACH Z:''' Atta boy!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to Pom Pom at Club Technochocolate; he is throwing 100 dollar bills into the air.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''POM POM:''' ''{Pom noises}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Sound effects continue in the background; cut to Strong Bad in the shower, singing.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I'm a woman on the prowl and I speak up for myself! The city is at night and I'm ''dancin''! ''Dancin''!  Homsar solo!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{All sound effects temporarily cease; cut to Homsar in a nearly black space.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''HOMSAR:''' AAaAaaaAaAAaAaAAAaAAaAaAAAaaAaAaaAaAaAAaAaaAAaAh!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{All sound effects resume; cut to Marzipan playing her guitar.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{guitar riff}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Sound effects continue; cut to Strong Bad.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''STRONG BAD:''' Look out world! I'm an independent girl! Rollin' around like a motorcade!  Look out world! I'm an independent girl! ''{sound effects stop}'' ''{out of key}'' You can meet me down at the arcade! ''{no longer singing}'' Whoa.  Need to get the acoustics checked out in here.  ''{taps the brush he is holding}'' Is this thing broken?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{fade out}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Mix Mastah 800 appears. This can select each characters sequence individually and change their audio output}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fun Facts==&lt;br /&gt;
===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
*The items Bubs grinds into sausages include a [[steak]], a tennis ball, and [[General Tso's Chicken|Chinese food]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Goofs===&lt;br /&gt;
*At one point, during a cut to Strong Sad and Coach Z, the score on the scoreboard changes from 12 to 2 for a single frame before changing to 13.&lt;br /&gt;
**When it is 18, it just barely sticks out of the box.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Inside References===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sketchbook060727.png|thumb|Keep on Trucking!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Homestar Runner's animation is based on a [[Sketchbook 2006#SK-2006-07-27|Weekly Sketchbook]] image, and was previously shown at the [[Georgia Tech - 26 Apr 2007|Georgia Tech talk]]. A graffiti image of Coach Z seen behind Strong Sad was also from a Sketchbook image.&lt;br /&gt;
*The starry backround in the Homsar solo was previously seen in an Easter egg in [[ghosts]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Real-World References===&lt;br /&gt;
*The way Homestar walks references the iconic [http://www.zubeworld.com/crumbmuseum/truckin.html &amp;quot;Truckin'&amp;quot;] images by [[Wikipedia:Robert Crumb|Robert Crumb]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== External Links ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[HR:onetwo.html|watch &amp;quot;One Two&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[HR:onetwo.swf|view the Flash file for &amp;quot;One Two&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Forum:11543|forum thread re: &amp;quot;One Two&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Shorts]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>The Magic Pixel</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://hrwiki.org/wiki/One_Two,_One_Two</id>
		<title>One Two, One Two</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://hrwiki.org/wiki/One_Two,_One_Two"/>
				<updated>2007-05-28T21:28:01Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;The Magic Pixel:&amp;#32;/* Goofs */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[Image:One Two.png|thumb|&amp;quot;One, two, one, two....&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[The King of Town's Grill]], [[The King of Town's Castle]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Gymnasium]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]], [[Club Technochocolate]], [[Bathroom of the Brothers Strong]], [[Outer Space]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Date:''' Monday, May 28, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Running Time:''' 1:33&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Page Title:''' Lookout World!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' One, two, one, two, one, two, one, two... ''{continues in background}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to Strong Mad lifting the cover off The King of Town's grill to reveal The Cheat.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{angry The Cheat noises}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Strong Mad replaces the cover; his reflection is clearly visible}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''STRONG MAD:''' Gah!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{This set of sounds continues in the background; cut to The Poopsmith patting a pile of whatsit}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''THE POOPSMITH:''' ''{noises from the whatsit}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Noise continues in background again; cut back to Strong Mad.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''STRONG MAD:''' Gah!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{All three noises are still playing in background; cut to Bubs grinding steaks into sausages}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''BUBS:''' Ooh! Ah! Rink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink-a...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut back to The Poopsmith.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''THE POOPSMITH:''' ''{noises from the whatsit}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to a 4-way screen split of the four scenes currently going on, sound effects continue.  Then cut to Strong Sad and Coach Z in the gymnasium.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''STRONG SAD:''' Here I go! ''{pats his belly to make noise; scoreboard buzzes}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''COACH Z:''' Atta boy!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{This continues in the background; cut to The King of Town eating marshmallows.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{eating noises}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Eating noises continue in the background; cut back to Homestar Runner walking.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' One, two...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to Coach Z and Strong Sad.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''COACH Z:''' Atta boy!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut to Pom Pom at Club Technochocolate; he is throwing 100 dollar bills into the air.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''POM POM:''' ''{Pom noises}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Sound effects continue in the background; cut to Strong Bad in the shower, singing.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I'm a woman on the prowl and I speak up for myself! The city is at night and I'm ''dancin''! ''Dancin''!  Homsar solo!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{All sound effects temporarily cease; cut to Homsar in a nearly black space.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''HOMSAR:''' AAaAaaaAaAAaAaAAAaAAaAaAAAaaAaAaaAaAaAAaAaaAAaAh!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{All sound effects resume; cut to Marzipan playing her guitar.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{guitar riff}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Sound effects continue; cut to Strong Bad.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''STRONG BAD:''' Look out world! I'm an independent girl! Rollin' around like a motorcade!  Look out world! I'm an independent girl! ''{sound effects stop}'' ''{out of key}'' You can meet me down at the arcade! ''{no longer singing}'' Whoa.  Need to get the acoustics checked out in here.  ''{taps the brush he is holding}'' Is this thing broken?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{fade out}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''mix mastah 800 appers''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fun Facts==&lt;br /&gt;
===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
*The items Bubs grinds into sausages include a steak, a tennis ball, and chinese food.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Goofs===&lt;br /&gt;
*At one point, during a cut to Strong Sad and Coach Z, the score on the scoreboard changes from 12 to 2 for a single frame before changing to 13.&lt;br /&gt;
**When it is 13, it just barely sticks out of the box.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Inside References===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sketchbook060727.png|thumb|Keep on Trucking!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Homestar Runner's animation is based on a [[Sketchbook 2006#SK-2006-07-27|Weekly Sketchbook]] image, and was previously shown at the [[Georgia Tech - 26 Apr 2007|Georgia Tech talk]].&lt;br /&gt;
*The starry backround in the Homsar solo was previously seen in an Easter egg in [[ghosts]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Real-World References===&lt;br /&gt;
*The way Homestar walks references the iconic [http://www.zubeworld.com/crumbmuseum/truckin.html &amp;quot;Truckin'&amp;quot;] images by [[Wikipedia:Robert Crumb|Robert Crumb]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== External Links ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[HR:onetwo.html|watch &amp;quot;One Two&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[HR:onetwo.swf|view the Flash file for &amp;quot;One Two&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Forum:11543|forum thread re: &amp;quot;One Two&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Shorts]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>The Magic Pixel</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:One_Two,_One_Two</id>
		<title>Talk:One Two, One Two</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:One_Two,_One_Two"/>
				<updated>2007-05-28T21:02:49Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;The Magic Pixel:&amp;#32;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== Bubs' &amp;quot;Anything Goes!&amp;quot; Sausage ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
From what I can tell, [[Bubs]] grinds the following into sausage:&lt;br /&gt;
* Raw t-bone steak&lt;br /&gt;
* Yellow tennis ball (or possibly a lemon)&lt;br /&gt;
* Box of [[General Tso's Chicken]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{User:Jessica Ingmann/sig}} 21:00, 28 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== New &amp;quot;Game&amp;quot;! ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is there some sort of &amp;quot;minor games&amp;quot; page I could put the last part on?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>The Magic Pixel</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:more_armies</id>
		<title>Talk:more armies</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:more_armies"/>
				<updated>2007-05-23T01:37:15Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;The Magic Pixel:&amp;#32;/* Long Sbemail */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==Continuation of &amp;quot;army&amp;quot;?==&lt;br /&gt;
Could this email be considered a continuation of the email [[army]] due to how the subject nature is so similar to the said email and how this email is called &amp;quot;more armies&amp;quot;? -- [[User:Bad Graphics Ghost|The BGG]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Benedetto!==&lt;br /&gt;
Just making sure. Frank Bennedetto was not in this email, but rather a memorial to him. Right? - &lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Drsandsattwo|Drsandsattwo]] 20:18, 21 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Uhm... no. Frank was revealed to be alive in Labor Dabor (and sign your name please.) -[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 21:49, 21 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry. What I realize Bennedetto is as alive as a psuedocharacter can be, but that is a memorial rather than the real thing. correct?   -&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd say that the memorial of Bennedetto counts as a character appearance as much as stuffed Strong Bad suplexing a cougar does.  {{User:Jeadly/sig}} 16:39, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I have made my decission ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I can do the transcript luckaly say my parents. I can do the transcript. Can I do the transcript again? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:[[User:Has Matt?|Has Matt?]] is {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=more_armies&amp;amp;curid=34763&amp;amp;diff=460758&amp;amp;oldid=460756&amp;amp;rcid=415474 working on it now}}. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Not-yet opened STUFF==&lt;br /&gt;
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The third kid facing certain doom in the Homestarmy refers to military school.&lt;br /&gt;
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- {{User:Gtxm78/sig}} 21:56, 21 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that, if anything, certain doom refers to the fact that Homestar is a ridiculously inept &amp;quot;commander&amp;quot; and will lead the Homestarmy to certain doom. - [[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 22:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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He's more of a &amp;quot;Col-o-nel&amp;quot;. -WeatherPerson&lt;br /&gt;
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==Jumped in?==&lt;br /&gt;
What's that mean? Strong Bad said you can send your kid off to join the On Point Kings, but he'll have to be jumped in. Funny, usually by the time I come here, the e-mail page is already done. It's odd to see it so new :). [[User:Kvn8907|Kvn8907]] 22:11, 21 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: It's the standard gang initiation... urban legends about flashing headlights and assaulting random people in front of Wal-Mart notwithstanding, most gangs simply beat the $*#! out of prospective members to make sure they're tough enough. That's called being &amp;quot;jumped in&amp;quot;. [[User:68.13.21.225|68.13.21.225]] 23:22, 21 May 2007 (UTC) (a no-account good for nothing so and so)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Firebert to Trogdor==&lt;br /&gt;
It's possible that The Cheat didn't change Firebert to Trogdor just because his name was awful.  I think it's more to do with the popularity of Trogdor and the amount of fan contributions it has spawned.&lt;br /&gt;
:Same here. {{User:4kai2lyn6/sig}} 00:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::agreed --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 00:20, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I disagree. I think the firebert not being a good commando name was exactly what they had in mind. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::but Trogdor isn't a commando name...is it? --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 00:25, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I agree as well... SB may have stated his opinion that Firebert isn't a good commando name in a previous email, but there's no reason to assume that's the reason he's unpopular; the gag would have worked just as well with any of the other commandos.  The gag is a commentary on how much more popular Trogdor is than the commandos, not the &amp;quot;quality&amp;quot; of the name. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 02:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Redheaded stepchild?==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it possible that &amp;quot;step-headed red-child&amp;quot; is a reference to the phrase &amp;quot;redheaded stepchild,&amp;quot; meaning an unfavored child? -[[User:HotBees|HotBees]] 00:01, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:If that's an actualy saying, then i'd say definately. Incidentally, i've never heard that before. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:03, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: I have. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:21, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Me three. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ditto, I've heard the phrase &amp;quot;gonna beat you like a red-headed step-child&amp;quot;, and I've heard a few comedians reference the phrase.  And even if it wasn't a common phrase, there'd pretty much be no other explanation for what the heck step-headed red-child is supposed to mean. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 02:15, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::According to [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=red-headed+stepchild Urban Dictionary], red-headed stepchild is a synonym for whipping boy. That's how I've always heard it used (eg, my department is the company's red-headed stepchild) and that makes sense in this context. (Be ye warned, oh external link-clickers, Urban Dictionary is NOT a family-friendly website!) [[User:Not Horse Woman|Not Horse Woman]] 00:44, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: It's an old saying for suretain. --[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 01:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Umm ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there some kind of arbitrary rule that you don't link the same page twice in a paragraph or something?  &amp;quot;which strong bad said was not a good commando name in army&amp;quot; looks wonky without a link or some way to identify &amp;quot;army&amp;quot; as referring to an email and not simply a grammatical miscarriage.  -anonymous&lt;br /&gt;
:Link once and only once. First instance only. It's not unwritten, it's written.. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|place]]... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:45, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I understand the reason for the rule, and I'm not asking for the rule to be relaxed or broken, but there should be some sort of punctuation or format convention (quotes, bold, italics, some combination of 2 or 3) for a case like this.  Otherwise, as anonymous pointed out, it just looks like bad grammar. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 02:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;quot;Once and Only Once&amp;quot; has little to do with this... the rule you're after is [[HRWiki:Standards#Link once|Link once]]. But I agree, things like email names should be linked every time... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::You sure 'bout that, Phlip? Email names always linked? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It's tough, because if we were doing it correctly, we would probably have all the toons' names italicized. Since we don't, if you use the name of an email/toon but don't link it, it looks strange, like this: &amp;quot;Strong Bad's first email was some kinda robot&amp;quot;. Especially the emails, since they're uncapitalized. So, I'm not sure that linking them all the time is the best solution, but we've got to do something to make them stand out, and italicizing them sometimes but not others would be too inconsistent... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 09:12, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I'd say link all unless doing something major to all of 'em such as italics or quotes. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:31, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Boond? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What does the &amp;quot;Boond You Like?&amp;quot; poster behind Homestar mean? {{User:Einstein runner/sig}} 02:54, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:From what I understand, it's a portmanteau of &amp;quot;bowl&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;spoon.&amp;quot; That still doesn't make sense, though. -[[User:HotBees|HotBees]] 03:00, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Maybe something to do with [[Wikipedia:War bond|war bonds]]? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mercenaries ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The line &amp;quot;Mercenaries are typically known to have bad reputations&amp;quot; was used to explain the point of Strong Bad saying &amp;quot;We do bad stuff&amp;quot;. How is this not NPOV? -[[User:Itama|Itama]] 03:29, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I took that sentence out, and with NPOV, I meant the part about the missionaries. Without the missionaries bit, I didn't see much relevance in the mercenaries part of the sentence.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Poster==&lt;br /&gt;
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should it be mentioned that the &amp;quot;do you has&amp;quot; poster, though slightly changed, has been used in a down loadable wallpaper?&lt;br /&gt;
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== He-Man ==&lt;br /&gt;
So, someone thought that the Poopsmith's change into the Municipality Soldier was not related to He-Man... I thought the lightning striking the shovel was just like the special magic that changes Prince Adam into Heman... &amp;quot;By the Castle of Grayskull.... I HAVE THE POWER!&amp;quot;  I would like to add it back in, but please let me know what you thing.... I think you need to be a He-Man fan to appreciate it... any takers for a debate? [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 05:06, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I see the resemblence, but I think it's a reference to the Marines commercials (especially given the context of the toon). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:09, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No, I totally thought of He-Man too. The Chaps are notorious for '80s refs. ...I think. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But really. Is this the place for a He-Man reference? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:06, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I'm gonna have to agree with Trey on this one.  This is a clear Marine commercial reference.  It also makes a lot more sense to be referencing an actual military recruitment commercial (rather than He-Man) at a Vaguely Military Career Fair. [[User:Manolios|Manolios]] 14:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It does seem like a He-Man reference, now that you mention it. Besides, The Poopsmith doesn't almost lose his grip, like in the Marines commercial it seems to be referencing. [[User:Neox|Neox]]&lt;br /&gt;
::::::And He-Man... does? The Marines commerical reference is patently true (it says &amp;quot;pooper fi&amp;quot; on his shield). The only reason the scene resembles He-Man at all is because the Marines commercial that it parodies kinda does. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Why is everyone acting as though the Municipality video can only be a reference to one thing and one thing only?  Is it not a possibility that it references BOTH the Marines recruitment ads AND He-Man?[[User:71.217.233.97|71.217.233.97]] 20:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Because when something is clearly a reference to thing A, and kind of sorta resembles or is a stretch to thing B, then it's probably just a reference to think A alone. (It could be considered a variation of [[TTATOT]] that I will call TAOT (&amp;quot;this and only this&amp;quot;).) &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== His left hand? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;lt;i&amp;gt;The Cheat uses the marker with his [[left handedness|left hand]].&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't want to change this yet just in case it's just my dyslexia, but I'm pretty sure the Cheat is using that marker with his right hand. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 13:52, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hmm, true, i corrected the wording, didn't think to look at the fact itself. Okay. DELETED! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:06, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Brown Ops ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I am not 100% on this, but aren't brown ops Navy operations in coastal and riverine areas?&lt;br /&gt;
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== What? No goofs? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Shouldn't there be a goofs section? I noticed that when Strong Bad gets up, you see his reflection emerge from behind the Lappy and his head is behind the fairly tattered Paper.&lt;br /&gt;
:I haven't seen that one yet myself. But it's a wiki; feel free to add it. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:04, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mile reference? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does anyone else think the sound The Cheat makes in the beginning of the Easter Egg is similar to that 1 from when he looked around in [[mile]]? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Perhaps, but why is that notable? &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ganglo-Saxon ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Isn't &amp;quot;Ganglo-Saxon&amp;quot; a [[portmanteau]] of &amp;quot;gangly&amp;quot; (probably referring to the build of high-school-age students likely to be attending career fairs) and &amp;quot;Anglo-Saxon&amp;quot;? (Edit: I see now that Has Matt? has added it to the Portmanteaus page already, just not here.) -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 15:55, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Music ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The music is the scene after the 2 Weeks... sound familiar. I think its from something. I'll see if I can find it to have proof.--{{User:X66x66/sig}} 19:12, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:[[Strongest Man In The World]], I believe. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:48, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Undertaker? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me or does the Shady Missionary look eerily like the Undertaker from old school WWF? The facial expression is exact. --((User:Shadix))&lt;br /&gt;
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== 5 Bucks ==&lt;br /&gt;
I can't be the only one who noticed this.  Homestar saying that the &amp;quot;viewer&amp;quot; looks like he comes from &amp;quot;a long line of five bucks-havers&amp;quot; is a direct reference to the email army.  However, I'm guessing maybe there are so damn many references to that email in this one that listing them all would be silly?[[User:71.217.233.97|71.217.233.97]] 20:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Joe Piscopo ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Did I miss something?  WTF does Joe Piscopo have to do with anything? --- [[User:Wfaulk|Wfaulk]] 22:45, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Long Sbemail ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Apparently, the sbemail was put up for 3 weeks. Should I mention that anywhere? [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 23:23, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, I guess someone else added it. NEVERMIND'D! [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 01:37, 23 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Montage ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does noone remember that at the end of Montage Strong Bad upgrades to an inkjet in sbemail73 and that could be why the paper is mesed up? {{unsigned|24.252.248.124|23:36, 22 May 2007 (UTC)}}&lt;br /&gt;
:See [[more armies#Inside References]]. It's already mentioned. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:38, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Roman Trifold==&lt;br /&gt;
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What the crap's a Roman Trifold? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 00:20, 23 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Helicopter==&lt;br /&gt;
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Isn't that helicopter from TGS Issue 1? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 00:25, 23 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, it looks totally different. Go and have a look.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:28, 23 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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[[Image:Homestar Frank Bennedetto more armies.png|thumb|&amp;quot;The Homestarmy has a career for you in the no-armed forces!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Strong Bad gives us a tour of his Vaguely Military Career Fair.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}/[[Tito]], {{film|Strong Mad|}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|The King of Town}}, {{film|The Poopsmith}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Firebert}} (Easter egg)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Gymnasium]], [[Strong Badia]], [[The King of Town's Castle]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Comp|Lappy 486}}&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Date:''' Monday, May 21, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Running Time:''' 3:40&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486&lt;br /&gt;
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==Transcript==&lt;br /&gt;
'''STRONG BAD:''' Bring to me a suitable email, that I may check it down.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote class=&amp;quot;lappy email&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
subject: Strong Badia's Army&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Mr Strong Bad&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I have three sons that wish to join the Strongbadia army.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Do you have any pamphlets, brochures, video information&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
that could assist.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Yours, &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Paul, Perth &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Western Australia&lt;br /&gt;
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''{He says &amp;quot;Mr&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;Mere&amp;quot; and says &amp;quot;Hey, I am no mere Strong Bad, okay?!&amp;quot; after reading &amp;quot;Mr Strong Bad&amp;quot;. He also reads &amp;quot;Paul, Perth&amp;quot; as one name.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{clears screen, typing}'' Look Perthy Paul, I've been over this already: Strong Badia doesn't have/need''{pronounces have-slash-need}'' an army. When we need muscle, we farm it out to our favorite band of shady missionaries, er I mean mercenaries, MERCENARIES! In fact, if your sons are so bonzer to enlist, they can ''{doesn't type}'' just ''{typing}'' swing by their booth at our Vaguely Military Career Fair, which just happens to be starting right now!&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Cut to a wide shot of The Cheat next to Strong Bad. Strong Bad turns around to face him.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, it's not for three weeks. Okay.&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Cut to a black screen reading &amp;quot;2 weeks later...&amp;quot;. Cut to Strong Bad in his basement.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' Introducing... &lt;br /&gt;
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''{Cut to The Cheat on the couch, with a cane, a bowtie, and a top hat reading &amp;quot;Tito&amp;quot;. He turns left and right and waves.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' ...Tito the Tophaticent! And his beautiful assistant, &lt;br /&gt;
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''{Cut to a wide shot of the basement, revealing Strong Mad standing behind the couch with two basketballs in his singlet. He waves. Silhouettes of Strong Bad and Strong Sad are visible.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' Strong Mad with two basketballs shoved down his singlet!&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG SAD:''' Yaaaay!! ''{claps}''&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Cut to a black screen reading &amp;quot;1 week later...&amp;quot;. Cut to Strong Bad sitting at a booth in the gymnasium, wearing an eyepatch and a taped-on mustache. On the booth is a muffler, a stack of brochures, and a pipe. Coach Z walks by.}'' &lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' Excuse me, Ganglo-Saxon. You look like the type of kid that gets his lunch handed to him daily. Well, if you'd like to be the lunch-handerer ''{raises his glove, revealing a robotic claw taped to it}'' for a change, then boy, do the On Point Kings have a brochure for you!&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Strong Bad puts the brochure on the table. It has the On Point Kings logo on top of a camouflage-style background.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' It's a Roman trifold ''{opens brochure}'' printed on 65-pound cardstock. &lt;br /&gt;
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''{The camera zooms in on the various features of the brochure.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' 14-point Helvetica, laid out using Quark Xpress! A ''pirated version'' of Quark Xpress!&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Flips open to another side of the brochure, which shows photos of the On Point Kings in action.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' We specialize in black ops, brown ops, and the occasional beige op.&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Cut to footage of Strong Badia, where a hopscotch grid has been drawn on the dirt. Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat are there, all wearing fake mustaches. &amp;quot;CLASSIFIED&amp;quot; has been stamped on the screen. The Cheat starts hopping along the squares.}'' &lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' Come on, The Cheat! Go for sixies! ''Sixies!''&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Cut back to Strong Bad at the booth.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' How do you ever expect to get an ''{shows off his features as he says them}'' eye patch, mustache, or robotic arm like this&amp;amp;mdash; clank, clank&amp;amp;mdash; unless you join up with a shady band of missionaries? Oh, crap, I did it again! ''{camera moves away}'' Mercenaries, I meant mercenaries! ''{screen pans right and fades out}'' We do bad stuff!&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Cut to The King of Town at his booth. He is asleep and snoring while he is fed Giblet Gravy through a mask and tube. There is a TV on his table, as well as a sign reading, &amp;quot;Out to lunch Watch video&amp;quot; and an arrow pointing to the TV. Two posters are on the wall. Cut to the video, which shows a silhouetted The Poopsmith slowly climbing up the King's castle.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{voiceover}'' The drive... the power... the skills... the motivation... the power again...&lt;br /&gt;
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''{The Poopsmith has reached the top of the castle. He grabs his shovel.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{voiceover}'' The fortitude...&lt;br /&gt;
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''{The Poopsmith holds the shovel by his side.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{voiceover}'' The strive...&lt;br /&gt;
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''{The Poopsmith holds the shovel up to the dark, cloudy sky as lightning flashes.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{voiceover}'' The ideals...&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Lightning strikes the shovel, which gives The Poopsmith dark gloves, a gas mask, a club, and a shield.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{voiceover}'' The list of attributes...&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Zoom out on The Poopsmith, revealing a black and white poster with five Poopsmiths with the same gear. A King of Town logo is in the center and the words &amp;quot;The Municipality&amp;quot; are at the top.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{voiceover}'' The Municipality. ''{words appear as the King says them}'' Honor. Valor. Buttor.&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Cut to Homestar Runner's booth. Homestar is wearing an orange bowl on his head and is wielding an orange spoon. The table has the popcorn machine, Frank Bennedetto, behind a sign reading &amp;quot;Not free popcorn, memorial statue&amp;quot;. There are two posters on the wall, one depicting Homestar wearing the same outfit, with the caption &amp;quot;Do You Has?&amp;quot;, and another depicting the orange bowl and spoon, with the caption &amp;quot;Boond You Like?&amp;quot;}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Say, young man! Say, young man, young man, young man, young man, young man, young man, young man! ''{points at viewer}'' You look like you come from a long line of five bucks-havers. Well, the Homestarmy has a career for ''you'' ''{points}'' in the no-armed forces! &lt;br /&gt;
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''{Cut to closeup of Homestar.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Say, you good at video games? I'm not good at video games. ''{chuckles}'' The last time I fired up one of my old Sega tapes, it made me a waffle. ''{zoom in}'' Say, you like pamphlets? ''{holds up a book of &amp;quot;Game Program Instructions&amp;quot; by Videlectrix}'' Here's a pamphlet! ''{tears book in half}'' Here's two pamphlets!&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Cut to the original wide shot.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Say, you got a girlfriend? Well, what if your girlfriend was a ''{holds up spoon}'' wooden spoon and an ''{bowl flies off his head}'' orange plastic bowl? ''{lowers eyelids}'' That'd be really weird, man. What kind of screwed-up kid are you? ''{angry}'' We don't recruit your kind! ''{waves spoon}'' Get out of here!&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Cut back to Strong Bad at the Lappy.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So that's fair, right Dinkum? You send your coolest son off to join the On Point Kings. He'll have to be jumped in. You send your fat son off to join The Municipality.  He'll have to be ''{short pause}'' pooped in. And then you send your step-headed red-child off to certain doom in the Homestarmy. He's gonna wanna be jumped out. Well, I gotta go find the bicycle pump. Tito the Tophaticent's beautiful assistant's looking a little...lopsided. &lt;br /&gt;
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''{Strong Bad gets up and leaves. [[The Paper]] comes down with an odd, sick-sounding noise; it is crumpled and torn. Strong Bad peeks in from the right side of the screen.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh. That's a bad sign.&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Strong Bad leaves again.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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==Easter Eggs==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Shady missionaries.png|thumb|Fairly Religious Overtones!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Click on &amp;quot;Shady Missionaries&amp;quot; to see a [[Taranchula]] album of the same name.&lt;br /&gt;
* When Homestar says &amp;quot;The last time I fired up one of my old [[Sega tapes]] it made me a waffle&amp;quot;, click anywhere on the screen to bring up a picture of a [[wikipedia:waffle iron|waffle iron]] with a [[Wikipedia:Sega Genesis|Genesis]]-like controller and cartridge attached to it.&lt;br /&gt;
*At the end, click on &amp;quot;Tito the Tophaticent's&amp;quot; to see a video clip:&lt;br /&gt;
:''{The Cheat, in his Firebert outfit, is standing in front of a sign that bears the Cheat Commandos logo and reads &amp;quot;Meet TV's Firebert!&amp;quot; After a long pause with cricket sounds, he takes out a fine tip permanent marker and replaces &amp;quot;Firebert&amp;quot; with &amp;quot;Trogdor.&amp;quot; A large crowd of people gathers around and mumble to each other. The only intelligible phrases you can hear are &amp;quot;Strong Bah&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;You look taller.&amp;quot;}''&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fun Facts==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Explanations===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[wikipedia:Mercenary|Mercenaries]] are hired soldiers not currently a member of any national armed forces organization, while [[Wikipedia:Missionaries|missionaries]] preach religious teachings.&lt;br /&gt;
*Strong Bad uses stereotypical examples of [[wikipedia:Australian English|Australian English]] in his reply, &amp;quot;bonzer&amp;quot; (meaning excellent) and &amp;quot;fair dinkum&amp;quot; (meaning true or genuine).&lt;br /&gt;
*[[wikipedia:Black ops|Black ops]] are covert operations which involve activities of a legally or ethically questionable nature.&lt;br /&gt;
*Giblet gravy is [[Wikipedia:gravy|gravy]] with the [[Wikipedia:giblets|giblets]], or internal organs, of turkey or chicken. It is usually served with the type of poultry from which the giblets came.&lt;br /&gt;
*To be &amp;quot;jumped in&amp;quot; is when a gang jumps on a member and tries to injure him in order to prove his loyalty before he joins.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Step-headed red-child&amp;quot; is a play on [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=red-headed+stepchild &amp;quot;redheaded stepchild&amp;quot;], an expression used to refer to a social outcast.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Ganglo-Saxon&amp;quot; is a [[portmanteau]] of &amp;quot;gangly&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[Wikipedia:Anglo-Saxon|Anglo-Saxon]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:On Point Kings brochure.png|thumb|&amp;quot;Bro, sure!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*The label on the [[Floppy Disk Container]] reads &amp;quot;[[Floppy Disk Container#dark seed|dark seed]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*This email contains another instance of [[Strong Mad smiling]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Remarks===&lt;br /&gt;
*Even though the career fair happened three weeks after Strong Bad received the email, Strong Bad still remembered to finish checking it.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Goofs===&lt;br /&gt;
*Strong Bad's head is behind The Paper when he comes back to look at it&lt;br /&gt;
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===Inside References===&lt;br /&gt;
*This email makes several references to [[army]]. These include:&lt;br /&gt;
**Strong Bad's claim that he already said Strong Badia has/needs no army.&lt;br /&gt;
**The memorial to [[Frank Bennedetto]], the only casualty of [[The Battle of Strong Badia]].&lt;br /&gt;
**The Cheat does not receive any visitors before he changes &amp;quot;[[Firebert]]&amp;quot;, which Strong Bad said (in the email army) was not a good [[Cheat Commandos|commando]] name, to &amp;quot;[[Trogdor]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
**A poster at Homestar's booth is captioned with &amp;quot;Do you has?&amp;quot; In [[army]], Homestar asks Strong Bad, &amp;quot;Do you has what it takes to join the Homestarmy?&amp;quot; This poster is also available as a [[Downloads|downloadable]] [[wallpaper]].&lt;br /&gt;
**In Homestar's speech in the email [[army]] to his troops, Homestar mentions giving five bucks to the Homestarmy. Here, he states, &amp;quot;You look like you come from a long line of five-bucks havers.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*The Cheat's [[Tito]] costume is from [[part-time job]].&lt;br /&gt;
*The music during the Tito scene is from [[Strongest Man in the World]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Municipality]] was previously mentioned in [[disconnected]].&lt;br /&gt;
*The Paper's poor condition is likely a reference to [[montage]], where it's stated that &amp;quot;The Paper stuck around until email #173, at which time Strong Bad upgraded to an inkjet printer&amp;quot; (this email is #172).&lt;br /&gt;
**The sound it makes is an extended version of the one from [[Sick Day]].&lt;br /&gt;
* The [[On Point Kings]] were first referenced in [[origins]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The smashed muffler]] and a pipe are sitting on Strong Bad's recruiting stand.&lt;br /&gt;
* In his &amp;quot;[[Homestarmy]]&amp;quot; monologue, Homestar mentions [[Sega tapes]].&lt;br /&gt;
*The time displayed on the scoreboard is [[Pi|3:14]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Homestar's line about pursuing a career in the &amp;quot;no-armed forces&amp;quot; references Homestar's [[Lack of Visible Arms|lack of visible arms]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Strong Bad's costume, from when he is running the On Point Kings booth, features a [[mustache]].&lt;br /&gt;
*The sound The Cheat makes in the beginning of the Firebert Easter Egg is similar to the one he made in [[mile]] after Strong Bad left.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Real-World References===&lt;br /&gt;
*The Municipality video closely resembles a commercial for the [[wikipedia:United States Marine Corps|US Marines.]]&lt;br /&gt;
**Similarly, the Poopsmith's shield has &amp;quot;Pooper Fi&amp;quot; written on it, a parody of &amp;quot;[[wikipedia:Semper fidelis|Semper Fi]]&amp;quot; a motto of the US Marines.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[wikipedia:Joe Piscopo|Joe Piscopo]] is an American comedian known for his work in ''[[wikipedia:Saturday Night Live|Saturday Night Live]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
*Some of the On Point Kings brochure is actually set in Coolvetica, an edited version of [[wikipedia:Helvetica|Helvetica]], although much of the brochure appears to be set in [[wikipedia:House Industries|House Industries']] [http://www.houseind.com/index.php?page=showfont&amp;amp;id=140 Chalet Book].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[wikipedia:QuarkXPress|QuarkXPress]] is a page layout application for Mac and Windows.&lt;br /&gt;
**The brochure for the On Point Kings states that the version of QuarkXPress is registered to &amp;quot;B4KDØR H4XXØR&amp;quot; on the third inside page. This is a reference to [[wikipedia:Hacker|computer hackers]] who use &amp;quot;[[wikipedia:Backdoor|backdoors]]&amp;quot; to crack software copy-protection.&lt;br /&gt;
*The pamphlet for the Homestarmy features the cover art for the [[Atari 2600]] version of ''[[wikipedia:Space Invaders|Space Invaders]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Continuation of &amp;quot;army&amp;quot;?==&lt;br /&gt;
Could this email be considered a continuation of the email [[army]] due to how the subject nature is so similar to the said email and how this email is called &amp;quot;more armies&amp;quot;? -- [[User:Bad Graphics Ghost|The BGG]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Benedetto!==&lt;br /&gt;
Just making sure. Frank Bennedetto was not in this email, but rather a memorial to him. Right? - &lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Drsandsattwo|Drsandsattwo]] 20:18, 21 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Uhm... no. Frank was revealed to be alive in Labor Dabor (and sign your name please.) -[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 21:49, 21 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry. What I realize Bennedetto is as alive as a psuedocharacter can be, but that is a memorial rather than the real thing. correct?   -&lt;br /&gt;
[[user:Drsandsattwo|Drsandsattwo]] 23:38, 21 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd say that the memorial of Bennedetto counts as a character appearance as much as stuffed Strong Bad suplexing a cougar does.  {{User:Jeadly/sig}} 16:39, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I have made my decission ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I can do the transcript luckaly say my parents. I can do the transcript. Can I do the transcript again? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:[[User:Has Matt?|Has Matt?]] is {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=more_armies&amp;amp;curid=34763&amp;amp;diff=460758&amp;amp;oldid=460756&amp;amp;rcid=415474 working on it now}}. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Not-yet opened STUFF==&lt;br /&gt;
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The third kid facing certain doom in the Homestarmy refers to military school.&lt;br /&gt;
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- {{User:Gtxm78/sig}} 21:56, 21 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that, if anything, certain doom refers to the fact that Homestar is a ridiculously inept &amp;quot;commander&amp;quot; and will lead the Homestarmy to certain doom. - [[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 22:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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He's more of a &amp;quot;Col-o-nel&amp;quot;. -WeatherPerson&lt;br /&gt;
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==Jumped in?==&lt;br /&gt;
What's that mean? Strong Bad said you can send your kid off to join the On Point Kings, but he'll have to be jumped in. Funny, usually by the time I come here, the e-mail page is already done. It's odd to see it so new :). [[User:Kvn8907|Kvn8907]] 22:11, 21 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: It's the standard gang initiation... urban legends about flashing headlights and assaulting random people in front of Wal-Mart notwithstanding, most gangs simply beat the $*#! out of prospective members to make sure they're tough enough. That's called being &amp;quot;jumped in&amp;quot;. [[User:68.13.21.225|68.13.21.225]] 23:22, 21 May 2007 (UTC) (a no-account good for nothing so and so)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Firebert to Trogdor==&lt;br /&gt;
It's possible that The Cheat didn't change Firebert to Trogdor just because his name was awful.  I think it's more to do with the popularity of Trogdor and the amount of fan contributions it has spawned.&lt;br /&gt;
:Same here. {{User:4kai2lyn6/sig}} 00:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::agreed --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 00:20, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I disagree. I think the firebert not being a good commando name was exactly what they had in mind. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::but Trogdor isn't a commando name...is it? --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 00:25, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I agree as well... SB may have stated his opinion that Firebert isn't a good commando name in a previous email, but there's no reason to assume that's the reason he's unpopular; the gag would have worked just as well with any of the other commandos.  The gag is a commentary on how much more popular Trogdor is than the commandos, not the &amp;quot;quality&amp;quot; of the name. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 02:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Redheaded stepchild?==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it possible that &amp;quot;step-headed red-child&amp;quot; is a reference to the phrase &amp;quot;redheaded stepchild,&amp;quot; meaning an unfavored child? -[[User:HotBees|HotBees]] 00:01, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:If that's an actualy saying, then i'd say definately. Incidentally, i've never heard that before. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:03, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: I have. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:21, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Me three. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ditto, I've heard the phrase &amp;quot;gonna beat you like a red-headed step-child&amp;quot;, and I've heard a few comedians reference the phrase.  And even if it wasn't a common phrase, there'd pretty much be no other explanation for what the heck step-headed red-child is supposed to mean. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 02:15, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::According to [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=red-headed+stepchild Urban Dictionary], red-headed stepchild is a synonym for whipping boy. That's how I've always heard it used (eg, my department is the company's red-headed stepchild) and that makes sense in this context. (Be ye warned, oh external link-clickers, Urban Dictionary is NOT a family-friendly website!) [[User:Not Horse Woman|Not Horse Woman]] 00:44, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: It's an old saying for suretain. --[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 01:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Umm ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there some kind of arbitrary rule that you don't link the same page twice in a paragraph or something?  &amp;quot;which strong bad said was not a good commando name in army&amp;quot; looks wonky without a link or some way to identify &amp;quot;army&amp;quot; as referring to an email and not simply a grammatical miscarriage.  -anonymous&lt;br /&gt;
:Link once and only once. First instance only. It's not unwritten, it's written.. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|place]]... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:45, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I understand the reason for the rule, and I'm not asking for the rule to be relaxed or broken, but there should be some sort of punctuation or format convention (quotes, bold, italics, some combination of 2 or 3) for a case like this.  Otherwise, as anonymous pointed out, it just looks like bad grammar. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 02:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;quot;Once and Only Once&amp;quot; has little to do with this... the rule you're after is [[HRWiki:Standards#Link once|Link once]]. But I agree, things like email names should be linked every time... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::You sure 'bout that, Phlip? Email names always linked? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It's tough, because if we were doing it correctly, we would probably have all the toons' names italicized. Since we don't, if you use the name of an email/toon but don't link it, it looks strange, like this: &amp;quot;Strong Bad's first email was some kinda robot&amp;quot;. Especially the emails, since they're uncapitalized. So, I'm not sure that linking them all the time is the best solution, but we've got to do something to make them stand out, and italicizing them sometimes but not others would be too inconsistent... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 09:12, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I'd say link all unless doing something major to all of 'em such as italics or quotes. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:31, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Boond? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What does the &amp;quot;Boond You Like?&amp;quot; poster behind Homestar mean? {{User:Einstein runner/sig}} 02:54, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:From what I understand, it's a portmanteau of &amp;quot;bowl&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;spoon.&amp;quot; That still doesn't make sense, though. -[[User:HotBees|HotBees]] 03:00, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Maybe something to do with [[Wikipedia:War bond|war bonds]]? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mercenaries ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The line &amp;quot;Mercenaries are typically known to have bad reputations&amp;quot; was used to explain the point of Strong Bad saying &amp;quot;We do bad stuff&amp;quot;. How is this not NPOV? -[[User:Itama|Itama]] 03:29, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I took that sentence out, and with NPOV, I meant the part about the missionaries. Without the missionaries bit, I didn't see much relevance in the mercenaries part of the sentence.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Poster==&lt;br /&gt;
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should it be mentioned that the &amp;quot;do you has&amp;quot; poster, though slightly changed, has been used in a down loadable wallpaper?&lt;br /&gt;
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== He-Man ==&lt;br /&gt;
So, someone thought that the Poopsmith's change into the Municipality Soldier was not related to He-Man... I thought the lightning striking the shovel was just like the special magic that changes Prince Adam into Heman... &amp;quot;By the Castle of Grayskull.... I HAVE THE POWER!&amp;quot;  I would like to add it back in, but please let me know what you thing.... I think you need to be a He-Man fan to appreciate it... any takers for a debate? [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 05:06, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I see the resemblence, but I think it's a reference to the Marines commercials (especially given the context of the toon). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:09, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No, I totally thought of He-Man too. The Chaps are notorious for '80s refs. ...I think. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But really. Is this the place for a He-Man reference? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:06, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I'm gonna have to agree with Trey on this one.  This is a clear Marine commercial reference.  It also makes a lot more sense to be referencing an actual military recruitment commercial (rather than He-Man) at a Vaguely Military Career Fair. [[User:Manolios|Manolios]] 14:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It does seem like a He-Man reference, now that you mention it. Besides, The Poopsmith doesn't almost lose his grip, like in the Marines commercial it seems to be referencing. [[User:Neox|Neox]]&lt;br /&gt;
::::::And He-Man... does? The Marines commerical reference is patently true (it says &amp;quot;pooper fi&amp;quot; on his shield). The only reason the scene resembles He-Man at all is because the Marines commercial that it parodies kinda does. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Why is everyone acting as though the Municipality video can only be a reference to one thing and one thing only?  Is it not a possibility that it references BOTH the Marines recruitment ads AND He-Man?[[User:71.217.233.97|71.217.233.97]] 20:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Because when something is clearly a reference to thing A, and kind of sorta resembles or is a stretch to thing B, then it's probably just a reference to think A alone. (It could be considered a variation of [[TTATOT]] that I will call TAOT (&amp;quot;this and only this&amp;quot;).) &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== His left hand? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;lt;i&amp;gt;The Cheat uses the marker with his [[left handedness|left hand]].&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't want to change this yet just in case it's just my dyslexia, but I'm pretty sure the Cheat is using that marker with his right hand. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 13:52, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hmm, true, i corrected the wording, didn't think to look at the fact itself. Okay. DELETED! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:06, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Brown Ops ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I am not 100% on this, but aren't brown ops Navy operations in coastal and riverine areas?&lt;br /&gt;
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== What? No goofs? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Shouldn't there be a goofs section? I noticed that when Strong Bad gets up, you see his reflection emerge from behind the Lappy and his head is behind the fairly tattered Paper.&lt;br /&gt;
:I haven't seen that one yet myself. But it's a wiki; feel free to add it. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:04, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mile reference? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does anyone else think the sound The Cheat makes in the beginning of the Easter Egg is similar to that 1 from when he looked around in [[mile]]? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ganglo-Saxon ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Isn't &amp;quot;Ganglo-Saxon&amp;quot; a [[portmanteau]] of &amp;quot;gangly&amp;quot; (probably referring to the build of high-school-age students likely to be attending career fairs) and &amp;quot;Anglo-Saxon&amp;quot;? (Edit: I see now that Has Matt? has added it to the Portmanteaus page already, just not here.) -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 15:55, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Music ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The music is the scene after the 2 Weeks... sound familiar. I think its from something. I'll see if I can find it to have proof.--{{User:X66x66/sig}} 19:12, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:[[Strongest Man In The World]], I believe. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:48, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Undertaker? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me or does the Shady Missionary look eerily like the Undertaker from old school WWF? The facial expression is exact. --((User:Shadix))&lt;br /&gt;
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== 5 Bucks ==&lt;br /&gt;
I can't be the only one who noticed this.  Homestar saying that the &amp;quot;viewer&amp;quot; looks like he comes from &amp;quot;a long line of five bucks-havers&amp;quot; is a direct reference to the email army.  However, I'm guessing maybe there are so damn many references to that email in this one that listing them all would be silly?[[User:71.217.233.97|71.217.233.97]] 20:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Joe Piscopo ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Did I miss something?  WTF does Joe Piscopo have to do with anything? --- [[User:Wfaulk|Wfaulk]] 22:45, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Long Sbemail ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Apparently, the sbemail was put up for 3 weeks. Should I mention that anywhere? [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 23:23, 22 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>The Magic Pixel</name></author>	</entry>

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		<id>http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Magic_Pixel</id>
		<title>User talk:The Magic Pixel</title>
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				<updated>2007-05-22T20:46:29Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;The Magic Pixel:&amp;#32;blanked the page&lt;/p&gt;
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		<author><name>The Magic Pixel</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://hrwiki.org/wiki/The_Cheat_Other_Costumes</id>
		<title>The Cheat Other Costumes</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;The Magic Pixel:&amp;#32;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The different [[Other Costumes|costumes]] of [[The Cheat]].&lt;br /&gt;
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style=&amp;quot;border-collapse:collapse&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee&lt;br /&gt;
! Image !! Costume !! Seen in&lt;br /&gt;
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|[[Image:TheCheatAsHomestar.PNG|150px]] || [[Homestar Runner]] || [[A Jumping Jack Contest]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:TheCheatAsBad.PNG|150px]] || [[Strong Bad]] || [[A Jumping Jack Contest]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:Cheatsuit.png|150px]] || Strong Bad's attorney || Email [[sb email 22]], Email [[rough copy]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:CheatAsRobin.PNG|150px]] || &amp;quot;[[Strong Badman|Strong Badman's]] sidekick&amp;quot; ||  Email [[superhero name]], Email [[haircut]], Email [[portrait]], Email [[narrator]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:cheat ghost buster.png|150px]] || A [[Wikipedia:Ghostbuster|Ghostbuster]] || Email [[ghosts]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:TheCheatDweenSweater.png|150px]] || Green Sweater || [[Decemberween Email Menu]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:CheatAsEvilK.PNG|150px]] || [[Wikipedia:Evel Knievel|Evel Knievel]] || Email [[monster truck]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:admiralthecheat.png|150px]] || George Harrison's  [[Wikipedia:Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band|Sgt. Pepper]] costume || Email [[anything]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:TheCheatAsSadLeg.png|150px]] || [[Strong Sad]]'s left leg || Email [[impression]] &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:firebert army.png|150px]] || [[Firebert]] || Email [[army]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:pilgrim the cheat.png|150px]] || A [[Strong Badia|Strong Badian]] pilgrim || Email [[colonization]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:cheattophat.PNG|150px]] || With a top hat || Email [[theme park]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:TheCheatAsCustomerAssistance.PNG|150px]] || Customer Assistance || Email [[replacement]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:TheCheatAsTheCheat.png|150px]] || &amp;quot;[[the cheat]]&amp;quot; || Email [[replacement]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:minerthecheat.PNG|150px]] || Miner || Email [[cheatday]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:TheCheatHenchman.png|150px]] || Strong Bad's henchman || [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:RabidTheCheat.png|150px]] || Rabid || [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:CheatwithKOTCrown.PNG|150px]] || With [[The King of Town | The King of Town's]] crown || [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; | [[Image:cheat in cool boots.PNG]] || Cool Boots || [[New Boots]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:salesman cheat.PNG|150px]] || Door to door salesman|| Email [[montage]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:TheCheatAsRudolf.png|150px]] || [[Wikipedia:Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer|Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer]] || [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:titodancing.png|150px]] || [[Tito]] || Email [[part-time job]], Email [[more armies]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:Cheatinbluedress.png|150px]] || In a blue outfit || Email [[origins]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:cheattowel.PNG|150px]] || With towel || Email [[secret recipes]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:cheatstickynotes.PNG|150px]] || Covered in [[sticky notes]] || Email [[secret recipes]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:CheatAsHomestar.PNG|150px]] || [[Homestar Runner]] || Email [[do over]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; | [[Image:Pale The Cheat.PNG]] || Pale || Email [[bedtime story]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:Cheat as strap.png|150px]] || Harold &amp;quot;Strap&amp;quot; Coopmore (of [[The Strong Badian Administration of Some Aluminum Foil|SBASAF]]) || Email [[space program]], Email [[cliffhangers]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:Cheat_bandit.PNG|150px]] || A cat burglar || Email [[portrait]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:The Cheat-Bot.PNG|150px]] || [[The Cheatbot]] || Email [[technology]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:Thecheatshades.PNG|150px]] || With green shades || Email [[theme song]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:The Cheat chains.PNG|150px]] || In chains || Email [[retirement]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:Doctorcheat.PNG|150px]] || A doctor || Email [[looking old]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:Whatsitcheat.PNG|150px]] || Covered with [[whatsit]] || Email [[strong badathlon]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:The Cheat barbed wire.PNG|150px]] || With barbed wire || Email [[rough copy]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:Thecheatmustache.PNG|150px]] || With a mustache || [[Date Nite]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Image:The Cheat On Point King.PNG|150px]] || [[On Point King]] || Email [[more armies]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Other Costumes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>The Magic Pixel</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Orange_Bowl_and_Spoon</id>
		<title>Orange Bowl and Spoon</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;The Magic Pixel:&amp;#32;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Orange [[Wikipedia:Tupperware|Tupperware]]''' seems to mostly be what the [[Homestarmy]] wears as a uniform in battle. According to [[The Brothers Chaps]], as heard in the [[army]] DVD commentary, these items are real.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Orange Spoon==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:spoon.png|thumb|50px|Orange Spoon]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The orange spoon is mostly used by [[Homestar Runner]] as a pointer. It was shown in [[Labor Dabor]] as well, and [[Strong Mad]] also used it to eat [[pasta salad]] out of his [[underwear]] drawer. In [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]], the spoon appears in [[Bubs]]' collection of stirring utensils.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Appearances===&lt;br /&gt;
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*'''Debut:''' Email [[army]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Labor Dabor]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Email [[old comics]] (Easter egg)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[more armies]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Orange Bowl==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:bowl.png|thumb|150px|The perfect head gear]]&lt;br /&gt;
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These orange bowls are worn as uniforms (most likely as helmets) in the Homestarmy, placed upon one's head.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Appearances===&lt;br /&gt;
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*'''Debut:''' Email [[army]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Labor Dabor]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[more armies]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Items]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Homestarmy]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>The Magic Pixel</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://hrwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Sbemail_169_Deleted_Scene</id>
		<title>Talk:Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene</title>
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				<updated>2007-05-06T20:40:03Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;The Magic Pixel:&amp;#32;/* Tinner Tummer! */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Crack Advertizerman? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me, or does the narrorator for the ad sound like Crack Stuntman a little? [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 11:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:um.. It's done by the same person.... sooo...... {{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 11:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It sounds more like the narrator from the easter egg in [[2 years#Easter Eggs|2 years]]. And Lazylaces, Matt Chapman is an accomplished voice artist. Many of his characters sound nothing like each other, and most don't even sound anything like him. His having done the voice doesn't mean it will sound similar to other characters.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 12:03, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::oops... sorry{{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 12:31, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, but his having done the voice means one shouldn't be surprised if it sounds similar to other characters. No need for the attitude - watch it.{{unsigned|82.43.182.51|08:09, 30 April 2007 (UTC}}&lt;br /&gt;
::::What attitude?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 17:29, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I believe it's the same narrator guy from the Yello Dello trailer. Compare 'em. {{unsigned|24.72.94.51|23:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)}}&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Don't forget to sign your talkpage posts with four tildes (&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;).{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 05:44, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::2046 Strong Sad came to my mind when I watched. Bad Bad Guy 02:58, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's a similar voice to multiple thins on the site. Not worth noting. -{{User:Exhibit A/sig}} 03:22, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What the pfargtl? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, neverminding what 'pfargtl' is a stand-in for in 'WTPF?', how is that an [[Swearing|instance of swearing]]? Pfargtl isn't even a real word. I kind of get it, since the PF is obviously a stand-in. I'm just not wholly sure it should count. - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 13:24, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Because it's used as a swear, and the implied swear is the joke and is rather clear. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:54, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Pfargtl: the new fhqwgads==&lt;br /&gt;
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Because it's random letters, could pfargtl be the next fhqwgads somehow? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:21, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Forum topic. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:58, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hottest Market On the Money==&lt;br /&gt;
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That sounds more like something Senor Cardgage would say. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:27, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but I think Senor Cardgage would also throw in something that sounds like a girl's name. [[User:BoobusToober|BoobusToober]] 16:32, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hottest market on the money, terbigail. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 14:10, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== .egg == pom pom? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't really see how a website in the .egg domain is a reference to pom-pom.  I know he's egg shaped and all, but it's totally out of context and random to associate these two things.  I'm curious what others think before I bother with STUFF though.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:48, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:[[pom-pom|Pom Pom]] the sbemail. In it, Homestar and Coach Z are talking, and Homestar says something about something being &amp;quot;dot-egg or dot-muffin or something.&amp;quot; - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 16:53, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's not Pom Pom's shape that's the reference, it's this line from [[pom pom]]:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No, I'm pretty sure it was dot-egg.&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
: {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Where did my comment go? It was right here...Anyway, I fixed it on the Inside References. It linked to Pom Pom's character page for some reason. - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 16:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Sorry about that &amp;amp;mdash; see the {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sbemail_169_Deleted_Scene&amp;amp;diff=451099&amp;amp;oldid=451095 summary}} for the edit right before your last one. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:00, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Still, is this a reference to that email specifically, or just to the [[Eggs]] running gag? &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:10, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I believe they were thinking of the first time they made that joke, not coincidentally making the same joke a second time. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:12, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Doh.  I had completely forgotten about the &amp;quot;I'm pretty sure it's dot-egg&amp;quot; line.  The changed wording makes it much more clear.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 17:53, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Chronology ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know if this is worth mentioning, but I think we should say that this scene was meant to go between the Strong Sad and Homestar interruptions.&lt;br /&gt;
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That might work, and please sign your messages with four tildes: &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;. [[User:192.235.1.34|192.235.1.34]] 19:12, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Home row ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Just wanted to point out what I thought was a nice touch &amp;amp;mdash; when Strong Bad is typing out Coach Z's letters, he types each letter with the correct hand (for home row). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, they messed up 'G'. It should be typed with the left hand, not the right. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:19, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, you're right. Oh well. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:24, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Goofed goof ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;On the &amp;quot;Shorts&amp;quot; Toons page, it says &amp;quot;A deleted scene for a delted scene?!&amp;quot; under the description.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Isn't this, in theory, an inside reference to [[50 emails]], as HSR attempts to type deleted? Although it isn't one of the words he tries, it still could be a reference, nonetheless. {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:...I'm gonna have to assume it's a typo. That's *far* more likely than it being a very veiled reference to an old e-mail. -{{User:YK/sig}} 23:50, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Moot point now.  It says ''A big deal for a little scene'' on the shorts menu.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:34, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Squint Bad ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me, or is this the first time that Strong bad's eyes have &amp;quot;squinted&amp;quot; during a toon in dissapointment? {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 00:13, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;del&amp;gt;Uh, not in this matter.&amp;lt;/del&amp;gt; I guess it would be exactly that. Closest sad look is in [[retirement]]. But not exact. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 01:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:He lowered his eyelids in annoyance before in [[long pants]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Split ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think each feature should have its own article like [[In Search of the Yello Dello]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:53, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ehh. The short is all in ONE file; maybe this should say as one file. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 01:11, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:They're [[Rather Dashing|rather short]]. (Heh.) --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 01:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yeah, after I wrote that I realized we should wait until we have separate files. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tofu Strong Bad? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, could the Cottage-Cheese filled Strong Bad be a reference to Tofu Homestar? [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 01:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Tofu is made of soy, if i recall correctly, not cheese. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 01:06, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK, that makes sense. But still, it's a dummy made out of food meant to fool people. I still think it may be a reference.[[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 01:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think it actually qualifies as a running gag by now, doesn't it? - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 02:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::No.  I mean... no.   Not even close.  Sorry.  Nope.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:38, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Then what does, if you don't mind my asking? This is the fourth or fifth time there's been a mannequin sculpted out of food. Granted, it's the first time for Strong Bad; the others were Homestar constructed with tofu, as already mentioned. Is it just that it's a different character and food product, now? - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 04:20, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::ah, but it's only the second kind of this type of thing. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 04:22, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Got Sbemail? ==&lt;br /&gt;
I'm wondering. How many times before this has another character besides strong bad refer to the emails he checks as &amp;quot;sbemails&amp;quot;? -[[User:drsandsattwo|the doc]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Homestar did it once. He typed 'sbemail.com' in [[anything]]. - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 02:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No, that was 'sb_enail.com'. {{User:Mee/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
:::Everyone said sbemail [[rock opera]], and Coach Z also said sbemail in [[Accent]]. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 11:02, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Motion Picture Guy ==&lt;br /&gt;
Do people think this is a reference to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_LaFontaine ?  He is famous for making movie trailers identical in style to the one in this episode. [[User:140.180.173.155|140.180.173.155]] 02:27, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:[[TTATOT]] [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 02:29, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hey just like Alfonzo Cauron and David Yates and Stephen Speilburg and Zach Braff and ... oh... [[TTATOT]].{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:44, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::actually, your examples are directors. you might want to know that lafontaine is the voice behind the trailers, rather than the maker than the movie. his style of voice and announcing is often parody'd. such as in our own strong bad email [[narrator]].&lt;br /&gt;
:::As a LaFontaine fan I'm sure you've seen [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLbYaAqtgXg this cute clip].  I named the directors because, well, they are easy to blame right? {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:31, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think they're more of a fadeout than a deletion. It seems like they're a reference to some horror film. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 04:47, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Everybody! Everybody! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The inside reference to &amp;quot;Everybody! Everybody!&amp;quot; deserves some mention here. The background music to [[Dancin' Bubs]], as well as the song played in drive thru stereo through the Dancin' Homestar Runner Musical [[Nobot]] from the [[What I Want]] easter egg.  Oh, annnd the name of the ensemble poster.  Annnnd it can be heard again in [[Intro]]. Any other instances that I've neglected to mention here?  At any rate, worthy of mention in the Inside References, no? --[[User:Cardgage Forty Twone|Cardgage Forty Twone]] 08:12, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, that ratings screen is a direct reference to [[In Search of the Yello Dello Theatrical Trailer]], so it's only an indirect reference to the [[Intro]]. I'm not sure if it's worthy of a mention here or not... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It's not actually mentioned in the [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] page at the moment, though. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 08:57, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::[[In Search of the Yello Dello#Inside References|Yes it is!]] {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=In_Search_of_the_Yello_Dello&amp;amp;diff=451584&amp;amp;oldid=451567 ;)}} {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:17, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What up [[g]]? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, so Dot com removed the link from:&lt;br /&gt;
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because he said it was a coincidence. I say differently. I say, if they went to the trouble to make sure each hand motion was precise, why flub the g? Because there's a running gag with &amp;quot;G&amp;quot; and they KNOW there's people on this wiki with so little time as to check these things. It's very much their style to put in a random, out-of-the-way, hard-to-find reference like this. I say '''link it'''. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 14:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think they messed up on 'g' because they wanted to break up the left-right sequence, which otherwise would be RLLLLLR. Or maybe Mike types 'g' with his right hand. Or maybe they just screwed up. This is all speculation, naturally. I don't think, however, that we should link to it simply because we happen to have an article for that letter of the alphabet. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:21, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I had just typed out the same thing as Dot com (now invisicommented)&amp;lt;!--I can think of equally or more plausible reasons for the  deviation from home row &amp;amp;mdash; the most likely one to me is that they animated it correctly, realized that it wasn't random enough (RLLLLLR), and then changed the &amp;quot;G&amp;quot; to be typed with the left for variety in animation.--&amp;gt; Both explanations are entirely speculation, and neither one is more provable or reasonable than the other. (too bad, though, because I would like to believe the one you stated) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:26, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Cottage Cheese==&lt;br /&gt;
I added a goof yesterday about Homestar's head not being in front of the speech bubble during the theatrical trailer, and it was removed.  Now it's back, but it's a remark.  What's the difference between a goof and a remark???--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:39, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:A goof would be accidental, a remark would be deliberate. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I changed it to a Remark because I thought that The Brothers Chaps might have made it intentional. Maybe they wanted to keep Strong Bad out of the view so it wouldn't spoil the deleted scene. Or it could just be a stylistic choice. Either way, it's safer to put it in Remarks than in Goofs. Read [[HRWiki:Standards]] to find out more about Goofs and Remarks. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:44, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:all of the other deleted deleted scenes have changes between them and just the deleted scenes. so its hardly to be unexpected that one of the deleted deleted scenes may have changes from the trailer of just the deleted scene.&lt;br /&gt;
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== DVD Menu ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This DVD menu, along with the music, is very similar to that of the Office Space DVD. It's probably an intentional parody. [[User:B. Thayer|B. Thayer]] 22:22, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fixed??? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I still get hear Coach Z speaking after the trailer has faded out, but this article say's it has been fixed. Is everyone positive it has been fixed???--[[User:Murgatroid|Murgatroid]] 23:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== WTF ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A fact was proposed explaining the meaning of WTPF's counterpart WTF. Its meaning should be clear to most. While I don't object to such a fact in its worth, we do need to find a way to say it where the language isn't going to be a problem. I'm reminded of [[Talk:duck pond#Revisiting British Slang|&amp;quot;feeding the ducks&amp;quot;]] and the mess there existed in explaining the euphemism without actually saying what it was. I don't believe the end product there was successful, and we ended up not running the fact at all. How should we proceed? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:38, 2 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say we do what we did with [[sugarbob#Fun Facts|sugarbob]]: put a fact in Remarks/Explanations saying something along the lines of &amp;quot;'WTPF' is a reference to [[Swears|swearing]].&amp;quot; Then if a person wants to, they can click on the link to find out more. This way we can provide information without shoving it in peoples' faces. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 03:11, 2 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, that sounds about right; how about this:&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;WTPF&amp;quot; is a reference to &amp;quot;WTF&amp;quot;, an acronym for a [[swear]].&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::{{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:16, 2 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think it still needs a little rewording, as only one of the words that make up the acronym is a swear. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:12, 4 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Coach Z: Mom instincts again? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Given that the Suk-A-Dux's bag is pink with a flowery pattern, and doing the vacuum cleaning is not something you'd typically do around an office environment, I see Coach Z's handling of it to show another one of his portrayals as a mom. But how do we discuss on whether this inside reference will be placed in the article or not? [[User:Rexy|Rexy]] 14:59, 2 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The custodial staff will often vacuum offices. admittedly generally after normal business hours. More evidence that that the coach is on the custodial staff is that he runs after some puke to clean it up. (the sawdust isn't to reduce the gross factor, it absorbs the liquid to make clean up easier) In addition, he is on the hourly wage type payment, rather than a salary that would be associated with more of an office type job. and vaccumes sometimes are just flowery.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tinner Tummer! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could the way they faded out &amp;quot;This summer&amp;quot; so it would say &amp;quot;Tummer&amp;quot; be a reference to &amp;quot;Tinner&amp;quot; from the [[Meet Marshie|Marshie Short]]? [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 12:13, 5 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:First of all, [http://www.bonusstages.com/bonusstage65.html second of all] its &amp;quot;Pinner&amp;quot; in Meet Marshie. And if it doesn't sound exactly like Pinner, Its most likely not a reference. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 12:30, 5 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Oh, OK then. NEVER MIND'D! [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 20:40, 6 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deleted Scene Times ==&lt;br /&gt;
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OK, instead of 0:04-0:06 second for the deleted scenes, I did it separately for each deleted scene, and it's stayed up for this long. Could someone check me to see if I got the right times? [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 13:45, 6 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;== Crack Advertizerman? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me, or does the narrorator for the ad sound like Crack Stuntman a little? [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 11:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:um.. It's done by the same person.... sooo...... {{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 11:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It sounds more like the narrator from the easter egg in [[2 years#Easter Eggs|2 years]]. And Lazylaces, Matt Chapman is an accomplished voice artist. Many of his characters sound nothing like each other, and most don't even sound anything like him. His having done the voice doesn't mean it will sound similar to other characters.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 12:03, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::oops... sorry{{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 12:31, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, but his having done the voice means one shouldn't be surprised if it sounds similar to other characters. No need for the attitude - watch it.{{unsigned|82.43.182.51|08:09, 30 April 2007 (UTC}}&lt;br /&gt;
::::What attitude?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 17:29, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I believe it's the same narrator guy from the Yello Dello trailer. Compare 'em. {{unsigned|24.72.94.51|23:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)}}&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Don't forget to sign your talkpage posts with four tildes (&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;).{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 05:44, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::2046 Strong Sad came to my mind when I watched. Bad Bad Guy 02:58, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's a similar voice to multiple thins on the site. Not worth noting. -{{User:Exhibit A/sig}} 03:22, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What the pfargtl? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, neverminding what 'pfargtl' is a stand-in for in 'WTPF?', how is that an [[Swearing|instance of swearing]]? Pfargtl isn't even a real word. I kind of get it, since the PF is obviously a stand-in. I'm just not wholly sure it should count. - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 13:24, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Because it's used as a swear, and the implied swear is the joke and is rather clear. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:54, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Pfargtl: the new fhqwgads==&lt;br /&gt;
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Because it's random letters, could pfargtl be the next fhqwgads somehow? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:21, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Forum topic. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:58, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hottest Market On the Money==&lt;br /&gt;
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That sounds more like something Senor Cardgage would say. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:27, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but I think Senor Cardgage would also throw in something that sounds like a girl's name. [[User:BoobusToober|BoobusToober]] 16:32, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hottest market on the money, terbigail. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 14:10, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== .egg == pom pom? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't really see how a website in the .egg domain is a reference to pom-pom.  I know he's egg shaped and all, but it's totally out of context and random to associate these two things.  I'm curious what others think before I bother with STUFF though.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:48, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:[[pom-pom|Pom Pom]] the sbemail. In it, Homestar and Coach Z are talking, and Homestar says something about something being &amp;quot;dot-egg or dot-muffin or something.&amp;quot; - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 16:53, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's not Pom Pom's shape that's the reference, it's this line from [[pom pom]]:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No, I'm pretty sure it was dot-egg.&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
: {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Where did my comment go? It was right here...Anyway, I fixed it on the Inside References. It linked to Pom Pom's character page for some reason. - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 16:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Sorry about that &amp;amp;mdash; see the {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sbemail_169_Deleted_Scene&amp;amp;diff=451099&amp;amp;oldid=451095 summary}} for the edit right before your last one. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:00, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Still, is this a reference to that email specifically, or just to the [[Eggs]] running gag? &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:10, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I believe they were thinking of the first time they made that joke, not coincidentally making the same joke a second time. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:12, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Doh.  I had completely forgotten about the &amp;quot;I'm pretty sure it's dot-egg&amp;quot; line.  The changed wording makes it much more clear.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 17:53, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Chronology ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know if this is worth mentioning, but I think we should say that this scene was meant to go between the Strong Sad and Homestar interruptions.&lt;br /&gt;
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That might work, and please sign your messages with four tildes: &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;. [[User:192.235.1.34|192.235.1.34]] 19:12, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Home row ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Just wanted to point out what I thought was a nice touch &amp;amp;mdash; when Strong Bad is typing out Coach Z's letters, he types each letter with the correct hand (for home row). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, they messed up 'G'. It should be typed with the left hand, not the right. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:19, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, you're right. Oh well. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:24, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Goofed goof ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;On the &amp;quot;Shorts&amp;quot; Toons page, it says &amp;quot;A deleted scene for a delted scene?!&amp;quot; under the description.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Isn't this, in theory, an inside reference to [[50 emails]], as HSR attempts to type deleted? Although it isn't one of the words he tries, it still could be a reference, nonetheless. {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:...I'm gonna have to assume it's a typo. That's *far* more likely than it being a very veiled reference to an old e-mail. -{{User:YK/sig}} 23:50, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Moot point now.  It says ''A big deal for a little scene'' on the shorts menu.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:34, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Squint Bad ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me, or is this the first time that Strong bad's eyes have &amp;quot;squinted&amp;quot; during a toon in dissapointment? {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 00:13, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;del&amp;gt;Uh, not in this matter.&amp;lt;/del&amp;gt; I guess it would be exactly that. Closest sad look is in [[retirement]]. But not exact. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 01:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:He lowered his eyelids in annoyance before in [[long pants]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Split ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think each feature should have its own article like [[In Search of the Yello Dello]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:53, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ehh. The short is all in ONE file; maybe this should say as one file. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 01:11, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:They're [[Rather Dashing|rather short]]. (Heh.) --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 01:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yeah, after I wrote that I realized we should wait until we have separate files. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tofu Strong Bad? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, could the Cottage-Cheese filled Strong Bad be a reference to Tofu Homestar? [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 01:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Tofu is made of soy, if i recall correctly, not cheese. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 01:06, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK, that makes sense. But still, it's a dummy made out of food meant to fool people. I still think it may be a reference.[[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 01:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think it actually qualifies as a running gag by now, doesn't it? - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 02:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::No.  I mean... no.   Not even close.  Sorry.  Nope.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:38, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Then what does, if you don't mind my asking? This is the fourth or fifth time there's been a mannequin sculpted out of food. Granted, it's the first time for Strong Bad; the others were Homestar constructed with tofu, as already mentioned. Is it just that it's a different character and food product, now? - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 04:20, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::ah, but it's only the second kind of this type of thing. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 04:22, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Got Sbemail? ==&lt;br /&gt;
I'm wondering. How many times before this has another character besides strong bad refer to the emails he checks as &amp;quot;sbemails&amp;quot;? -[[User:drsandsattwo|the doc]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Homestar did it once. He typed 'sbemail.com' in [[anything]]. - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 02:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No, that was 'sb_enail.com'. {{User:Mee/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
:::Everyone said sbemail [[rock opera]], and Coach Z also said sbemail in [[Accent]]. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 11:02, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Motion Picture Guy ==&lt;br /&gt;
Do people think this is a reference to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_LaFontaine ?  He is famous for making movie trailers identical in style to the one in this episode. [[User:140.180.173.155|140.180.173.155]] 02:27, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:[[TTATOT]] [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 02:29, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hey just like Alfonzo Cauron and David Yates and Stephen Speilburg and Zach Braff and ... oh... [[TTATOT]].{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:44, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::actually, your examples are directors. you might want to know that lafontaine is the voice behind the trailers, rather than the maker than the movie. his style of voice and announcing is often parody'd. such as in our own strong bad email [[narrator]].&lt;br /&gt;
:::As a LaFontaine fan I'm sure you've seen [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLbYaAqtgXg this cute clip].  I named the directors because, well, they are easy to blame right? {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:31, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Deleted Words==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think they're more of a fadeout than a deletion. It seems like they're a reference to some horror film. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 04:47, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Everybody! Everybody! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The inside reference to &amp;quot;Everybody! Everybody!&amp;quot; deserves some mention here. The background music to [[Dancin' Bubs]], as well as the song played in drive thru stereo through the Dancin' Homestar Runner Musical [[Nobot]] from the [[What I Want]] easter egg.  Oh, annnd the name of the ensemble poster.  Annnnd it can be heard again in [[Intro]]. Any other instances that I've neglected to mention here?  At any rate, worthy of mention in the Inside References, no? --[[User:Cardgage Forty Twone|Cardgage Forty Twone]] 08:12, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, that ratings screen is a direct reference to [[In Search of the Yello Dello Theatrical Trailer]], so it's only an indirect reference to the [[Intro]]. I'm not sure if it's worthy of a mention here or not... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It's not actually mentioned in the [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] page at the moment, though. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 08:57, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::[[In Search of the Yello Dello#Inside References|Yes it is!]] {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=In_Search_of_the_Yello_Dello&amp;amp;diff=451584&amp;amp;oldid=451567 ;)}} {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:17, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What up [[g]]? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, so Dot com removed the link from:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Strong Bad uses the correct hand to type each letter in &amp;quot;pfargtl&amp;quot; (using the normal [[wikipedia:QWERTY|QWERTY]] keyboard layout) except for 'g', which should be typed with the left hand, not the right.&lt;br /&gt;
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because he said it was a coincidence. I say differently. I say, if they went to the trouble to make sure each hand motion was precise, why flub the g? Because there's a running gag with &amp;quot;G&amp;quot; and they KNOW there's people on this wiki with so little time as to check these things. It's very much their style to put in a random, out-of-the-way, hard-to-find reference like this. I say '''link it'''. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 14:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think they messed up on 'g' because they wanted to break up the left-right sequence, which otherwise would be RLLLLLR. Or maybe Mike types 'g' with his right hand. Or maybe they just screwed up. This is all speculation, naturally. I don't think, however, that we should link to it simply because we happen to have an article for that letter of the alphabet. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:21, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I had just typed out the same thing as Dot com (now invisicommented)&amp;lt;!--I can think of equally or more plausible reasons for the  deviation from home row &amp;amp;mdash; the most likely one to me is that they animated it correctly, realized that it wasn't random enough (RLLLLLR), and then changed the &amp;quot;G&amp;quot; to be typed with the left for variety in animation.--&amp;gt; Both explanations are entirely speculation, and neither one is more provable or reasonable than the other. (too bad, though, because I would like to believe the one you stated) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:26, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Cottage Cheese==&lt;br /&gt;
I added a goof yesterday about Homestar's head not being in front of the speech bubble during the theatrical trailer, and it was removed.  Now it's back, but it's a remark.  What's the difference between a goof and a remark???--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:39, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:A goof would be accidental, a remark would be deliberate. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I changed it to a Remark because I thought that The Brothers Chaps might have made it intentional. Maybe they wanted to keep Strong Bad out of the view so it wouldn't spoil the deleted scene. Or it could just be a stylistic choice. Either way, it's safer to put it in Remarks than in Goofs. Read [[HRWiki:Standards]] to find out more about Goofs and Remarks. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:44, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:all of the other deleted deleted scenes have changes between them and just the deleted scenes. so its hardly to be unexpected that one of the deleted deleted scenes may have changes from the trailer of just the deleted scene.&lt;br /&gt;
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== DVD Menu ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This DVD menu, along with the music, is very similar to that of the Office Space DVD. It's probably an intentional parody. [[User:B. Thayer|B. Thayer]] 22:22, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fixed??? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I still get hear Coach Z speaking after the trailer has faded out, but this article say's it has been fixed. Is everyone positive it has been fixed???--[[User:Murgatroid|Murgatroid]] 23:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== WTF ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A fact was proposed explaining the meaning of WTPF's counterpart WTF. Its meaning should be clear to most. While I don't object to such a fact in its worth, we do need to find a way to say it where the language isn't going to be a problem. I'm reminded of [[Talk:duck pond#Revisiting British Slang|&amp;quot;feeding the ducks&amp;quot;]] and the mess there existed in explaining the euphemism without actually saying what it was. I don't believe the end product there was successful, and we ended up not running the fact at all. How should we proceed? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:38, 2 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say we do what we did with [[sugarbob#Fun Facts|sugarbob]]: put a fact in Remarks/Explanations saying something along the lines of &amp;quot;'WTPF' is a reference to [[Swears|swearing]].&amp;quot; Then if a person wants to, they can click on the link to find out more. This way we can provide information without shoving it in peoples' faces. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 03:11, 2 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, that sounds about right; how about this:&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;WTPF&amp;quot; is a reference to &amp;quot;WTF&amp;quot;, an acronym for a [[swear]].&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::{{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:16, 2 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think it still needs a little rewording, as only one of the words that make up the acronym is a swear. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:12, 4 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Coach Z: Mom instincts again? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Given that the Suk-A-Dux's bag is pink with a flowery pattern, and doing the vacuum cleaning is not something you'd typically do around an office environment, I see Coach Z's handling of it to show another one of his portrayals as a mom. But how do we discuss on whether this inside reference will be placed in the article or not? [[User:Rexy|Rexy]] 14:59, 2 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The custodial staff will often vacuum offices. admittedly generally after normal business hours. More evidence that that the coach is on the custodial staff is that he runs after some puke to clean it up. (the sawdust isn't to reduce the gross factor, it absorbs the liquid to make clean up easier) In addition, he is on the hourly wage type payment, rather than a salary that would be associated with more of an office type job. and vaccumes sometimes are just flowery.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tinner Tummer! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could the way they faded out &amp;quot;This summer&amp;quot; so it would say &amp;quot;Tummer&amp;quot; be a reference to &amp;quot;Tinner&amp;quot; from the [[Meet Marshie|Marshie Short]]? [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 12:13, 5 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:First of all, [http://www.bonusstages.com/bonusstage65.html second of all] its &amp;quot;Pinner&amp;quot; in Meet Marshie. And if it doesn't sound exactly like Pinner, Its most likely not a reference. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 12:30, 5 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Oh, OK then. NEVER MIND'D! &lt;br /&gt;
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== Deleted Scene Times ==&lt;br /&gt;
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OK, instead of 0:04-0:06 second for the deleted scenes, I did it separately for each deleted scene, and it's stayed up for this long. Could someone check me to see if I got the right times? [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 13:45, 6 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;== Crack Advertizerman? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me, or does the narrorator for the ad sound like Crack Stuntman a little? [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 11:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:um.. It's done by the same person.... sooo...... {{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 11:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It sounds more like the narrator from the easter egg in [[2 years#Easter Eggs|2 years]]. And Lazylaces, Matt Chapman is an accomplished voice artist. Many of his characters sound nothing like each other, and most don't even sound anything like him. His having done the voice doesn't mean it will sound similar to other characters.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 12:03, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::oops... sorry{{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 12:31, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, but his having done the voice means one shouldn't be surprised if it sounds similar to other characters. No need for the attitude - watch it.{{unsigned|82.43.182.51|08:09, 30 April 2007 (UTC}}&lt;br /&gt;
::::What attitude?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 17:29, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I believe it's the same narrator guy from the Yello Dello trailer. Compare 'em. {{unsigned|24.72.94.51|23:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)}}&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Don't forget to sign your talkpage posts with four tildes (&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;).{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 05:44, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::2046 Strong Sad came to my mind when I watched. Bad Bad Guy 02:58, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's a similar voice to multiple thins on the site. Not worth noting. -{{User:Exhibit A/sig}} 03:22, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What the pfargtl? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, neverminding what 'pfargtl' is a stand-in for in 'WTPF?', how is that an [[Swearing|instance of swearing]]? Pfargtl isn't even a real word. I kind of get it, since the PF is obviously a stand-in. I'm just not wholly sure it should count. - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 13:24, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Because it's used as a swear, and the implied swear is the joke and is rather clear. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:54, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Pfargtl: the new fhqwgads==&lt;br /&gt;
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Because it's random letters, could pfargtl be the next fhqwgads somehow? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:21, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Forum topic. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:58, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hottest Market On the Money==&lt;br /&gt;
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That sounds more like something Senor Cardgage would say. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:27, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but I think Senor Cardgage would also throw in something that sounds like a girl's name. [[User:BoobusToober|BoobusToober]] 16:32, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hottest market on the money, terbigail. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 14:10, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== .egg == pom pom? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't really see how a website in the .egg domain is a reference to pom-pom.  I know he's egg shaped and all, but it's totally out of context and random to associate these two things.  I'm curious what others think before I bother with STUFF though.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:48, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:[[pom-pom|Pom Pom]] the sbemail. In it, Homestar and Coach Z are talking, and Homestar says something about something being &amp;quot;dot-egg or dot-muffin or something.&amp;quot; - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 16:53, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's not Pom Pom's shape that's the reference, it's this line from [[pom pom]]:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No, I'm pretty sure it was dot-egg.&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
: {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Where did my comment go? It was right here...Anyway, I fixed it on the Inside References. It linked to Pom Pom's character page for some reason. - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 16:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Sorry about that &amp;amp;mdash; see the {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sbemail_169_Deleted_Scene&amp;amp;diff=451099&amp;amp;oldid=451095 summary}} for the edit right before your last one. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:00, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Still, is this a reference to that email specifically, or just to the [[Eggs]] running gag? &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:10, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I believe they were thinking of the first time they made that joke, not coincidentally making the same joke a second time. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:12, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Doh.  I had completely forgotten about the &amp;quot;I'm pretty sure it's dot-egg&amp;quot; line.  The changed wording makes it much more clear.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 17:53, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Chronology ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know if this is worth mentioning, but I think we should say that this scene was meant to go between the Strong Sad and Homestar interruptions.&lt;br /&gt;
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That might work, and please sign your messages with four tildes: &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;. [[User:192.235.1.34|192.235.1.34]] 19:12, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Home row ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Just wanted to point out what I thought was a nice touch &amp;amp;mdash; when Strong Bad is typing out Coach Z's letters, he types each letter with the correct hand (for home row). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, they messed up 'G'. It should be typed with the left hand, not the right. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:19, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, you're right. Oh well. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:24, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Goofed goof ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;On the &amp;quot;Shorts&amp;quot; Toons page, it says &amp;quot;A deleted scene for a delted scene?!&amp;quot; under the description.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Isn't this, in theory, an inside reference to [[50 emails]], as HSR attempts to type deleted? Although it isn't one of the words he tries, it still could be a reference, nonetheless. {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:...I'm gonna have to assume it's a typo. That's *far* more likely than it being a very veiled reference to an old e-mail. -{{User:YK/sig}} 23:50, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Moot point now.  It says ''A big deal for a little scene'' on the shorts menu.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:34, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Squint Bad ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me, or is this the first time that Strong bad's eyes have &amp;quot;squinted&amp;quot; during a toon in dissapointment? {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 00:13, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;del&amp;gt;Uh, not in this matter.&amp;lt;/del&amp;gt; I guess it would be exactly that. Closest sad look is in [[retirement]]. But not exact. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 01:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:He lowered his eyelids in annoyance before in [[long pants]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Split ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think each feature should have its own article like [[In Search of the Yello Dello]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:53, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ehh. The short is all in ONE file; maybe this should say as one file. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 01:11, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:They're [[Rather Dashing|rather short]]. (Heh.) --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 01:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yeah, after I wrote that I realized we should wait until we have separate files. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tofu Strong Bad? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, could the Cottage-Cheese filled Strong Bad be a reference to Tofu Homestar? [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 01:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Tofu is made of soy, if i recall correctly, not cheese. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 01:06, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK, that makes sense. But still, it's a dummy made out of food meant to fool people. I still think it may be a reference.[[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 01:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think it actually qualifies as a running gag by now, doesn't it? - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 02:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::No.  I mean... no.   Not even close.  Sorry.  Nope.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:38, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Then what does, if you don't mind my asking? This is the fourth or fifth time there's been a mannequin sculpted out of food. Granted, it's the first time for Strong Bad; the others were Homestar constructed with tofu, as already mentioned. Is it just that it's a different character and food product, now? - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 04:20, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::ah, but it's only the second kind of this type of thing. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 04:22, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Got Sbemail? ==&lt;br /&gt;
I'm wondering. How many times before this has another character besides strong bad refer to the emails he checks as &amp;quot;sbemails&amp;quot;? -[[User:drsandsattwo|the doc]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Homestar did it once. He typed 'sbemail.com' in [[anything]]. - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 02:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No, that was 'sb_enail.com'. {{User:Mee/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
:::Everyone said sbemail [[rock opera]], and Coach Z also said sbemail in [[Accent]]. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 11:02, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Motion Picture Guy ==&lt;br /&gt;
Do people think this is a reference to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_LaFontaine ?  He is famous for making movie trailers identical in style to the one in this episode. [[User:140.180.173.155|140.180.173.155]] 02:27, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:[[TTATOT]] [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 02:29, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hey just like Alfonzo Cauron and David Yates and Stephen Speilburg and Zach Braff and ... oh... [[TTATOT]].{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:44, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::actually, your examples are directors. you might want to know that lafontaine is the voice behind the trailers, rather than the maker than the movie. his style of voice and announcing is often parody'd. such as in our own strong bad email [[narrator]].&lt;br /&gt;
:::As a LaFontaine fan I'm sure you've seen [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLbYaAqtgXg this cute clip].  I named the directors because, well, they are easy to blame right? {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:31, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Deleted Words==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think they're more of a fadeout than a deletion. It seems like they're a reference to some horror film. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 04:47, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Everybody! Everybody! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The inside reference to &amp;quot;Everybody! Everybody!&amp;quot; deserves some mention here. The background music to [[Dancin' Bubs]], as well as the song played in drive thru stereo through the Dancin' Homestar Runner Musical [[Nobot]] from the [[What I Want]] easter egg.  Oh, annnd the name of the ensemble poster.  Annnnd it can be heard again in [[Intro]]. Any other instances that I've neglected to mention here?  At any rate, worthy of mention in the Inside References, no? --[[User:Cardgage Forty Twone|Cardgage Forty Twone]] 08:12, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, that ratings screen is a direct reference to [[In Search of the Yello Dello Theatrical Trailer]], so it's only an indirect reference to the [[Intro]]. I'm not sure if it's worthy of a mention here or not... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It's not actually mentioned in the [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] page at the moment, though. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 08:57, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::[[In Search of the Yello Dello#Inside References|Yes it is!]] {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=In_Search_of_the_Yello_Dello&amp;amp;diff=451584&amp;amp;oldid=451567 ;)}} {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:17, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What up [[g]]? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, so Dot com removed the link from:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Strong Bad uses the correct hand to type each letter in &amp;quot;pfargtl&amp;quot; (using the normal [[wikipedia:QWERTY|QWERTY]] keyboard layout) except for 'g', which should be typed with the left hand, not the right.&lt;br /&gt;
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because he said it was a coincidence. I say differently. I say, if they went to the trouble to make sure each hand motion was precise, why flub the g? Because there's a running gag with &amp;quot;G&amp;quot; and they KNOW there's people on this wiki with so little time as to check these things. It's very much their style to put in a random, out-of-the-way, hard-to-find reference like this. I say '''link it'''. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 14:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think they messed up on 'g' because they wanted to break up the left-right sequence, which otherwise would be RLLLLLR. Or maybe Mike types 'g' with his right hand. Or maybe they just screwed up. This is all speculation, naturally. I don't think, however, that we should link to it simply because we happen to have an article for that letter of the alphabet. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:21, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I had just typed out the same thing as Dot com (now invisicommented)&amp;lt;!--I can think of equally or more plausible reasons for the  deviation from home row &amp;amp;mdash; the most likely one to me is that they animated it correctly, realized that it wasn't random enough (RLLLLLR), and then changed the &amp;quot;G&amp;quot; to be typed with the left for variety in animation.--&amp;gt; Both explanations are entirely speculation, and neither one is more provable or reasonable than the other. (too bad, though, because I would like to believe the one you stated) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:26, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Cottage Cheese==&lt;br /&gt;
I added a goof yesterday about Homestar's head not being in front of the speech bubble during the theatrical trailer, and it was removed.  Now it's back, but it's a remark.  What's the difference between a goof and a remark???--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:39, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:A goof would be accidental, a remark would be deliberate. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I changed it to a Remark because I thought that The Brothers Chaps might have made it intentional. Maybe they wanted to keep Strong Bad out of the view so it wouldn't spoil the deleted scene. Or it could just be a stylistic choice. Either way, it's safer to put it in Remarks than in Goofs. Read [[HRWiki:Standards]] to find out more about Goofs and Remarks. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:44, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:all of the other deleted deleted scenes have changes between them and just the deleted scenes. so its hardly to be unexpected that one of the deleted deleted scenes may have changes from the trailer of just the deleted scene.&lt;br /&gt;
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== DVD Menu ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This DVD menu, along with the music, is very similar to that of the Office Space DVD. It's probably an intentional parody. [[User:B. Thayer|B. Thayer]] 22:22, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fixed??? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I still get hear Coach Z speaking after the trailer has faded out, but this article say's it has been fixed. Is everyone positive it has been fixed???--[[User:Murgatroid|Murgatroid]] 23:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== WTF ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A fact was proposed explaining the meaning of WTPF's counterpart WTF. Its meaning should be clear to most. While I don't object to such a fact in its worth, we do need to find a way to say it where the language isn't going to be a problem. I'm reminded of [[Talk:duck pond#Revisiting British Slang|&amp;quot;feeding the ducks&amp;quot;]] and the mess there existed in explaining the euphemism without actually saying what it was. I don't believe the end product there was successful, and we ended up not running the fact at all. How should we proceed? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:38, 2 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say we do what we did with [[sugarbob#Fun Facts|sugarbob]]: put a fact in Remarks/Explanations saying something along the lines of &amp;quot;'WTPF' is a reference to [[Swears|swearing]].&amp;quot; Then if a person wants to, they can click on the link to find out more. This way we can provide information without shoving it in peoples' faces. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 03:11, 2 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, that sounds about right; how about this:&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;WTPF&amp;quot; is a reference to &amp;quot;WTF&amp;quot;, an acronym for a [[swear]].&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::{{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:16, 2 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think it still needs a little rewording, as only one of the words that make up the acronym is a swear. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:12, 4 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Coach Z: Mom instincts again? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Given that the Suk-A-Dux's bag is pink with a flowery pattern, and doing the vacuum cleaning is not something you'd typically do around an office environment, I see Coach Z's handling of it to show another one of his portrayals as a mom. But how do we discuss on whether this inside reference will be placed in the article or not? [[User:Rexy|Rexy]] 14:59, 2 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The custodial staff will often vacuum offices. admittedly generally after normal business hours. More evidence that that the coach is on the custodial staff is that he runs after some puke to clean it up. (the sawdust isn't to reduce the gross factor, it absorbs the liquid to make clean up easier) In addition, he is on the hourly wage type payment, rather than a salary that would be associated with more of an office type job. and vaccumes sometimes are just flowery.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tinner Tummer! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could the way they faded out &amp;quot;This summer&amp;quot; so it would say &amp;quot;Tummer&amp;quot; be a reference to &amp;quot;Tinner&amp;quot; from the [[Meet Marshie|Marshie Short]]? [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 12:13, 5 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:First of all, [http://www.bonusstages.com/bonusstage65.html second of all] its &amp;quot;Pinner&amp;quot; in Meet Marshie. And if it doesn't sound exactly like Pinner, Its most likely not a reference. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 12:30, 5 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Oh, OK then. NEVER MIND'D! &lt;br /&gt;
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== Deleted Scene Times ==&lt;br /&gt;
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OK, instead of 0:04-0:06 second for the deleted scenes, I did it separately for each deleted scene, and it's stayed up for this long. Could someone check me to see if I got the right times?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene</title>
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&lt;div&gt;== Crack Advertizerman? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me, or does the narrorator for the ad sound like Crack Stuntman a little? [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 11:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:um.. It's done by the same person.... sooo...... {{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 11:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It sounds more like the narrator from the easter egg in [[2 years#Easter Eggs|2 years]]. And Lazylaces, Matt Chapman is an accomplished voice artist. Many of his characters sound nothing like each other, and most don't even sound anything like him. His having done the voice doesn't mean it will sound similar to other characters.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 12:03, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::oops... sorry{{User:Lazylaces/sig}} 12:31, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, but his having done the voice means one shouldn't be surprised if it sounds similar to other characters. No need for the attitude - watch it.{{unsigned|82.43.182.51|08:09, 30 April 2007 (UTC}}&lt;br /&gt;
::::What attitude?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 17:29, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I believe it's the same narrator guy from the Yello Dello trailer. Compare 'em. {{unsigned|24.72.94.51|23:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)}}&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Don't forget to sign your talkpage posts with four tildes (&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;).{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 05:44, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::2046 Strong Sad came to my mind when I watched. Bad Bad Guy 02:58, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's a similar voice to multiple thins on the site. Not worth noting. -{{User:Exhibit A/sig}} 03:22, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What the pfargtl? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, neverminding what 'pfargtl' is a stand-in for in 'WTPF?', how is that an [[Swearing|instance of swearing]]? Pfargtl isn't even a real word. I kind of get it, since the PF is obviously a stand-in. I'm just not wholly sure it should count. - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 13:24, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Because it's used as a swear, and the implied swear is the joke and is rather clear. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:54, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Pfargtl: the new fhqwgads==&lt;br /&gt;
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Because it's random letters, could pfargtl be the next fhqwgads somehow? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:21, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Forum topic. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:58, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hottest Market On the Money==&lt;br /&gt;
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That sounds more like something Senor Cardgage would say. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:27, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but I think Senor Cardgage would also throw in something that sounds like a girl's name. [[User:BoobusToober|BoobusToober]] 16:32, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hottest market on the money, terbigail. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 14:10, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== .egg == pom pom? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't really see how a website in the .egg domain is a reference to pom-pom.  I know he's egg shaped and all, but it's totally out of context and random to associate these two things.  I'm curious what others think before I bother with STUFF though.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:48, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:[[pom-pom|Pom Pom]] the sbemail. In it, Homestar and Coach Z are talking, and Homestar says something about something being &amp;quot;dot-egg or dot-muffin or something.&amp;quot; - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 16:53, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's not Pom Pom's shape that's the reference, it's this line from [[pom pom]]:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No, I'm pretty sure it was dot-egg.&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
: {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Where did my comment go? It was right here...Anyway, I fixed it on the Inside References. It linked to Pom Pom's character page for some reason. - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 16:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Sorry about that &amp;amp;mdash; see the {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sbemail_169_Deleted_Scene&amp;amp;diff=451099&amp;amp;oldid=451095 summary}} for the edit right before your last one. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:00, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Still, is this a reference to that email specifically, or just to the [[Eggs]] running gag? &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:10, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I believe they were thinking of the first time they made that joke, not coincidentally making the same joke a second time. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:12, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Doh.  I had completely forgotten about the &amp;quot;I'm pretty sure it's dot-egg&amp;quot; line.  The changed wording makes it much more clear.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 17:53, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Chronology ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know if this is worth mentioning, but I think we should say that this scene was meant to go between the Strong Sad and Homestar interruptions.&lt;br /&gt;
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That might work, and please sign your messages with four tildes: &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;. [[User:192.235.1.34|192.235.1.34]] 19:12, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Home row ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Just wanted to point out what I thought was a nice touch &amp;amp;mdash; when Strong Bad is typing out Coach Z's letters, he types each letter with the correct hand (for home row). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, they messed up 'G'. It should be typed with the left hand, not the right. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:19, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, you're right. Oh well. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:24, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Goofed goof ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;On the &amp;quot;Shorts&amp;quot; Toons page, it says &amp;quot;A deleted scene for a delted scene?!&amp;quot; under the description.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Isn't this, in theory, an inside reference to [[50 emails]], as HSR attempts to type deleted? Although it isn't one of the words he tries, it still could be a reference, nonetheless. {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:...I'm gonna have to assume it's a typo. That's *far* more likely than it being a very veiled reference to an old e-mail. -{{User:YK/sig}} 23:50, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Moot point now.  It says ''A big deal for a little scene'' on the shorts menu.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:34, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Squint Bad ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me, or is this the first time that Strong bad's eyes have &amp;quot;squinted&amp;quot; during a toon in dissapointment? {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 00:13, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;del&amp;gt;Uh, not in this matter.&amp;lt;/del&amp;gt; I guess it would be exactly that. Closest sad look is in [[retirement]]. But not exact. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 01:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:He lowered his eyelids in annoyance before in [[long pants]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Split ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think each feature should have its own article like [[In Search of the Yello Dello]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:53, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ehh. The short is all in ONE file; maybe this should say as one file. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 01:11, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:They're [[Rather Dashing|rather short]]. (Heh.) --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 01:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yeah, after I wrote that I realized we should wait until we have separate files. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tofu Strong Bad? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, could the Cottage-Cheese filled Strong Bad be a reference to Tofu Homestar? [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 01:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Tofu is made of soy, if i recall correctly, not cheese. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 01:06, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK, that makes sense. But still, it's a dummy made out of food meant to fool people. I still think it may be a reference.[[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 01:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think it actually qualifies as a running gag by now, doesn't it? - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 02:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::No.  I mean... no.   Not even close.  Sorry.  Nope.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:38, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Then what does, if you don't mind my asking? This is the fourth or fifth time there's been a mannequin sculpted out of food. Granted, it's the first time for Strong Bad; the others were Homestar constructed with tofu, as already mentioned. Is it just that it's a different character and food product, now? - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 04:20, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::ah, but it's only the second kind of this type of thing. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 04:22, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Got Sbemail? ==&lt;br /&gt;
I'm wondering. How many times before this has another character besides strong bad refer to the emails he checks as &amp;quot;sbemails&amp;quot;? -[[User:drsandsattwo|the doc]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Homestar did it once. He typed 'sbemail.com' in [[anything]]. - [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 02:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No, that was 'sb_enail.com'. {{User:Mee/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
:::Everyone said sbemail [[rock opera]], and Coach Z also said sbemail in [[Accent]]. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 11:02, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Motion Picture Guy ==&lt;br /&gt;
Do people think this is a reference to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_LaFontaine ?  He is famous for making movie trailers identical in style to the one in this episode. [[User:140.180.173.155|140.180.173.155]] 02:27, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:[[TTATOT]] [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 02:29, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hey just like Alfonzo Cauron and David Yates and Stephen Speilburg and Zach Braff and ... oh... [[TTATOT]].{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:44, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::actually, your examples are directors. you might want to know that lafontaine is the voice behind the trailers, rather than the maker than the movie. his style of voice and announcing is often parody'd. such as in our own strong bad email [[narrator]].&lt;br /&gt;
:::As a LaFontaine fan I'm sure you've seen [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLbYaAqtgXg this cute clip].  I named the directors because, well, they are easy to blame right? {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:31, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Deleted Words==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think they're more of a fadeout than a deletion. It seems like they're a reference to some horror film. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 04:47, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Everybody! Everybody! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The inside reference to &amp;quot;Everybody! Everybody!&amp;quot; deserves some mention here. The background music to [[Dancin' Bubs]], as well as the song played in drive thru stereo through the Dancin' Homestar Runner Musical [[Nobot]] from the [[What I Want]] easter egg.  Oh, annnd the name of the ensemble poster.  Annnnd it can be heard again in [[Intro]]. Any other instances that I've neglected to mention here?  At any rate, worthy of mention in the Inside References, no? --[[User:Cardgage Forty Twone|Cardgage Forty Twone]] 08:12, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, that ratings screen is a direct reference to [[In Search of the Yello Dello Theatrical Trailer]], so it's only an indirect reference to the [[Intro]]. I'm not sure if it's worthy of a mention here or not... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It's not actually mentioned in the [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] page at the moment, though. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 08:57, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::[[In Search of the Yello Dello#Inside References|Yes it is!]] {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=In_Search_of_the_Yello_Dello&amp;amp;diff=451584&amp;amp;oldid=451567 ;)}} {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:17, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What up [[g]]? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, so Dot com removed the link from:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Strong Bad uses the correct hand to type each letter in &amp;quot;pfargtl&amp;quot; (using the normal [[wikipedia:QWERTY|QWERTY]] keyboard layout) except for 'g', which should be typed with the left hand, not the right.&lt;br /&gt;
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because he said it was a coincidence. I say differently. I say, if they went to the trouble to make sure each hand motion was precise, why flub the g? Because there's a running gag with &amp;quot;G&amp;quot; and they KNOW there's people on this wiki with so little time as to check these things. It's very much their style to put in a random, out-of-the-way, hard-to-find reference like this. I say '''link it'''. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 14:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think they messed up on 'g' because they wanted to break up the left-right sequence, which otherwise would be RLLLLLR. Or maybe Mike types 'g' with his right hand. Or maybe they just screwed up. This is all speculation, naturally. I don't think, however, that we should link to it simply because we happen to have an article for that letter of the alphabet. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:21, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I had just typed out the same thing as Dot com (now invisicommented)&amp;lt;!--I can think of equally or more plausible reasons for the  deviation from home row &amp;amp;mdash; the most likely one to me is that they animated it correctly, realized that it wasn't random enough (RLLLLLR), and then changed the &amp;quot;G&amp;quot; to be typed with the left for variety in animation.--&amp;gt; Both explanations are entirely speculation, and neither one is more provable or reasonable than the other. (too bad, though, because I would like to believe the one you stated) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:26, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Cottage Cheese==&lt;br /&gt;
I added a goof yesterday about Homestar's head not being in front of the speech bubble during the theatrical trailer, and it was removed.  Now it's back, but it's a remark.  What's the difference between a goof and a remark???--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:39, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:A goof would be accidental, a remark would be deliberate. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I changed it to a Remark because I thought that The Brothers Chaps might have made it intentional. Maybe they wanted to keep Strong Bad out of the view so it wouldn't spoil the deleted scene. Or it could just be a stylistic choice. Either way, it's safer to put it in Remarks than in Goofs. Read [[HRWiki:Standards]] to find out more about Goofs and Remarks. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:44, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:all of the other deleted deleted scenes have changes between them and just the deleted scenes. so its hardly to be unexpected that one of the deleted deleted scenes may have changes from the trailer of just the deleted scene.&lt;br /&gt;
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== DVD Menu ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This DVD menu, along with the music, is very similar to that of the Office Space DVD. It's probably an intentional parody. [[User:B. Thayer|B. Thayer]] 22:22, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fixed??? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I still get hear Coach Z speaking after the trailer has faded out, but this article say's it has been fixed. Is everyone positive it has been fixed???--[[User:Murgatroid|Murgatroid]] 23:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== WTF ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A fact was proposed explaining the meaning of WTPF's counterpart WTF. Its meaning should be clear to most. While I don't object to such a fact in its worth, we do need to find a way to say it where the language isn't going to be a problem. I'm reminded of [[Talk:duck pond#Revisiting British Slang|&amp;quot;feeding the ducks&amp;quot;]] and the mess there existed in explaining the euphemism without actually saying what it was. I don't believe the end product there was successful, and we ended up not running the fact at all. How should we proceed? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:38, 2 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say we do what we did with [[sugarbob#Fun Facts|sugarbob]]: put a fact in Remarks/Explanations saying something along the lines of &amp;quot;'WTPF' is a reference to [[Swears|swearing]].&amp;quot; Then if a person wants to, they can click on the link to find out more. This way we can provide information without shoving it in peoples' faces. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 03:11, 2 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, that sounds about right; how about this:&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;WTPF&amp;quot; is a reference to &amp;quot;WTF&amp;quot;, an acronym for a [[swear]].&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::{{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:16, 2 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think it still needs a little rewording, as only one of the words that make up the acronym is a swear. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:12, 4 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Coach Z: Mom instincts again? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Given that the Suk-A-Dux's bag is pink with a flowery pattern, and doing the vacuum cleaning is not something you'd typically do around an office environment, I see Coach Z's handling of it to show another one of his portrayals as a mom. But how do we discuss on whether this inside reference will be placed in the article or not? [[User:Rexy|Rexy]] 14:59, 2 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The custodial staff will often vacuum offices. admittedly generally after normal business hours. More evidence that that the coach is on the custodial staff is that he runs after some puke to clean it up. (the sawdust isn't to reduce the gross factor, it absorbs the liquid to make clean up easier) In addition, he is on the hourly wage type payment, rather than a salary that would be associated with more of an office type job. and vaccumes sometimes are just flowery.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tinner Tummer! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could the way they faded out &amp;quot;This summer&amp;quot; so it would say &amp;quot;Tummer&amp;quot; be a reference to &amp;quot;Tinner&amp;quot; from the [[Meet Marshie|Marshie Short]]? [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 12:13, 5 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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[[Image:169lostdvd.PNG|thumb|200px|&amp;quot;What the pfargtl?&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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DVD-style presentation of a scene deleted from the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[from work]]. Includes commentary from Coach Z and Strong Bad as well as a theatrical trailer, &amp;quot;storyboards&amp;quot; and three scenes deleted from the deleted scene.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Places:''' [[The Office]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Date:''' Monday, April 30, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Running Times:''' 1:15 (Scene and commentary), 0:40 (Theatrical Trailer), 0:04 (Deleted Scene #1), 0:04 (Deleted Scene #2), 0:06 (Deleted Scene #3)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Page Title:''' Deleted Scenes have Deleted Scenes?&lt;br /&gt;
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==Transcripts==&lt;br /&gt;
The DVD menu screen shows the wall of Strong Bad's cubicle. The title of the toon along with a doodle of Strong Bad and Coach Z are on a Post-it note at the center. The menu items are scraps of paper attached to the cubicle with thumbtacks. Clockwise from the top left they are &amp;quot;storyboards,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;commentary,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;deleted scenes #1 #2 #3,&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Theatrical Trailer.&amp;quot; In the center is another scrap of paper labeled &amp;quot;Watch the scene!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===The Scene===&lt;br /&gt;
''{Open on Strong Bad typing on the Corpy NT6. The space whale chart from &amp;quot;from work&amp;quot; is on the screen}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, so where were we? Oh yeah. ''{typing}'' 2% Crudules, 2% ''{unintelligible}''...&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Vacuum cleaner noise drowns out Strong Bad. Cut to Coach Z vacuuming Strong Bad's cubicle. Strong Bad continues typing and mumbling unintelligibly under the vacuum}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''COACH Z:''' ''{singing}'' Doe-da-doot doo. Doo. Da-doo-da-doooo.&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Strong Bad stops typing and Coach Z shuts off the vacuum.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''COACH Z:''' Hey dere, salaried employee.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{lowers his eyelids}'' Auuugh. 'Sup, hourly Wage?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''COACH Z:''' I couldn't help but notice you're checkin' one a yer emails dere. Boy, do I have some good ideas for words ta type in an email.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, sorry, I'm not really takin' suggestions right now.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''COACH Z:''' Aww, dat's too bad. Sure would be unfarchunate if yer boss found out you was checkin' yer Sbemails at work!&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{exasperated}'' All right, all right! What do you want me to type?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''COACH Z:''' Ooh, great! ''{scratching his head}'' Okay, lessee...&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Coach Z spells out his word. As he says each letter, Strong Bad types it and it appears superimposed over the bottom of the frame.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''COACH Z:''' P... f... a... r... g... t... l? Is that a word?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{pronouncing each letter as he sounds it out}'' &amp;quot;Pfargtl?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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'''COACH Z:''' Yeah! Is that a word?&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Strong Bad hits his head on the keyboard, sending the superimposed letters flying.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' Does it ''sound'' like a word?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''COACH Z:''' Well I dunno... I only know a few.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{looking up}'' Oh, dan... guh. Dang. Oh dang! I think some customer service rep just puked up her microwave lasagna! You'd better go sprinkle sawdust all over it.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''COACH Z:''' This is what I live for!!!&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Coach Z runs off, dragging the vacuum cleaner after him}''&lt;br /&gt;
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===Commentary===&lt;br /&gt;
''{Toon starts}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''COACH Z:''' Ya know I just gotta say that workin' with Strong Bad here was a real privilege. This guy's a true consommé professional.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' Aww, thanks, Coach Z. Working with you was a complete nightmare, and I almost jumped out of several different windows during the making of this scene.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''COACH Z:''' Yeah, that was classic. Those windows was strong! They were real consommé pr--&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{interrupting}'' All right, shut up. What kind of vacuum was that you were using there?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''COACH Z:''' Oh that was the &amp;quot;Sook-a-Doox Five-Trousand.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' The &amp;quot;Suk-a-Dux Five-Thousand.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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'''COACH Z:''' Yup. Hottest market on the money!&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' Can I get a translator in here?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''COACH Z:''' This part's my favorite. I got ta improvise! They said I could spell out anything I wanted as long as it was my favorite animal!&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' But Coach Z, you spelled out &amp;quot;Pfargtl!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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'''COACH Z:''' ''{excited}'' That's right! That's my favorite!&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, that's not- that's not an animal.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''COACH Z:''' Ah, go on... You didn't have a p-family pfargtl growin' up? We kept ours out back by the hose!&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, I betcha did. You know when I was a kid I always thought that the pile of puke covered in sawdust was ''way'' nastier than just the pile of puke.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''COACH Z:''' Nat me. Sawdust makes everything delicious.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' Auugh, that's it, I'm outta here!&lt;br /&gt;
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===Deleted Scenes===&lt;br /&gt;
====Deleted Scene #1====&lt;br /&gt;
'''CAPTION:''' Deleted Scene #1: Originally Coach Z's &amp;quot;Doot-da-do-doo&amp;quot; line was all &amp;quot;Reet-da-dee-dee.&amp;quot; Oops, I guess I ruined it for you. Oh, well. Watch it anyway.&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Cut to Strong Bad's cubicle. Coach Z, Strong Bad, and the vacuum cleaner are there.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''COACH Z:''' ''{singing}'' A-reet-da-deet-dee. A-da-da-da-deeee!&lt;br /&gt;
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====Deleted Scene #2====&lt;br /&gt;
'''CAPTION:''' Deleted Scene #2: An early draft of the screenplay called for Strong Bad to say, &amp;quot;4% budules,&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;2% crudules.&amp;quot; Oh crap. I ruined it again. Watch it anyway.&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Cut to Strong Bad typing on the Corpy NT6. The Space Whale chart is on the screen.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, so where were we? ''{typing}'' 4% budules...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Deleted Scene #3====&lt;br /&gt;
'''CAPTION:''' Deleted Scene #3: I'm not gonna say a thing this time.&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Cut to Strong Bad's cubicle. Homestar Runner is there with a poorly made, cottage cheese-filled mock-up of Strong Bad. The mock-up has a cardboard word balloon reading, &amp;quot;hello, i work hard, and am not stuffed with cottage cheese.&amp;quot; The head of the mock-up slowly falls over.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey! What the pfargtl?!&lt;br /&gt;
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===Theatrical Trailer===&lt;br /&gt;
''{Open on a green screen that says the following:}''&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;border:0px solid #000; padding: 2em; color: #FFF; background-color: #42CC00; width: 600px; text-align:center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''THE FOLLOWING &amp;lt;big&amp;gt;PREVIEW&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR'''&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;'''EVERYBODY! EVERYBODY!'''&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''BY THE MOTION PICTURE GUY OF FREE COUNTRY USA'''&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''NARRATOR:''' A scene you were NEVER meant to see...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{While the narrator speaks, his words are displayed over the space whale with suspenseful type sounds in the background. The word &amp;quot;see&amp;quot; is then deleted from the words on the screen.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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''{Cut to Strong Bad tapping on his keyboard in slow motion}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut back to the space whale.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''NARRATOR:''' A meeting that should have NEVER have taken place...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Again, the words appear on the screen, and then &amp;quot;taken place&amp;quot; is deleted.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''COACH Z:''' Hey there, salaried employee.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Screen pans right then left as characters talk}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''STRONG BAD:''' Sup, hourly wage?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut back to the space whale.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''NARRATOR:''' This Summer...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{The words appear again, and this time &amp;quot;his S&amp;quot; is deleted from the middle.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Coach Z and Strong Bad talk in the background, then Strong Bad mashes his head on his keyboard}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''NARRATOR:''' ...watch the deleted scene that will have everyone asking...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Cut back to the space whale.}''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''NARRATOR:''' W... T... PF&lt;br /&gt;
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''{The letters W, T, P and F fly in as the narrator says them, and are joined by a question mark.}''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What the pfargtl?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''NARRATOR:''' Strong Bad Email 169:&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
the deleted scene&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''COACH Z:''' This is what I live for...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''{Screen fades to black with &amp;quot;www.whatthepfargtl.egg&amp;quot; in white at the bottom}''&lt;br /&gt;
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===Storyboards===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sbemailstoryboard.PNG|thumb|&amp;quot;And I'm out!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
:'''PANEL ONE:'''&lt;br /&gt;
::''{Strong Bad is typing on his computer. &amp;quot;VROO&amp;quot; can be heard off-panel}''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''STRONG BAD:''' TWO PERCENT CRUDULES...&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:'''PANEL TWO:'''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''COACH Z:''' ''{in a janitorial outfit, leaning on his vacuum}'' CHECKIN ONE O' YER EMAILS DARE, EH? I GOT A GOOD IDEA FOR ONE!&lt;br /&gt;
:'''PANEL THREE:'''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{turning back to his computer}'' JUST LEMME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE DONE TALKING, OKAY?&lt;br /&gt;
:'''PANEL FOUR:'''&lt;br /&gt;
::''{Coach Z turns away as if to leave}''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''COACH Z:''' BE A SHAME IF THE BOSS FOUND OUT WHAT YOU WAS ARP TO...&lt;br /&gt;
::'''STRONG BAD:''' ALRIGHT! WHAT SHOULD I TYPE?&lt;br /&gt;
:'''PANEL FIVE:'''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''COACH Z:''' P...F...A...R...G...T...L&lt;br /&gt;
::''{Strong Bad types it in}''&lt;br /&gt;
:'''PANEL SIX:'''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''COACH Z:''' ''{leaving}'' AND I'M OUT!&lt;br /&gt;
::''{Strong Bad slams his head on the keyboard}''&lt;br /&gt;
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==Easter Eggs==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Suk-a-dux 5000.PNG|thumb|&amp;quot;Hottest market on the money!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*In the commentary, click on the vacuum cleaner's handle when Coach Z says &amp;quot;Suk-a-Dux 5000&amp;quot; to see an advertisement for the vacuum cleaner. (This egg disappears during the cut to Strong Bad, but then is once again clickable as Coach Z spells pfargtl.)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote style=&amp;quot;width: 15em; text-align: center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;the&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Suk-A-Dux&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;5000&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&amp;quot;HOTTEST MARKET ON&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;THE MONEY!&amp;quot;-COACH Z&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{clear}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fun Facts==&lt;br /&gt;
===Explanations===&lt;br /&gt;
*Coach Z mispronounces the adjective &amp;quot;consummate,&amp;quot; which means &amp;quot;having or revealing supreme mastery or skill.&amp;quot; In cooking, [[Wikipedia:Consommé|consommé]] is a type of soup similar to a rich [[Wikipedia:Bouillon (broth)|bouillon]].&lt;br /&gt;
*The intentionally-poor syncing of the DVD menu music loop is a satire of DVD menus from many movies that use title music to play over the menu. Most DVDs use a short clip of music to play during the main menu and don't bother cleaning up the loop gap that occurs, likely because the user is expected to make a selection before the clip ends.&lt;br /&gt;
*A salaried employee is paid the same no matter how much he works. An employee with an hourly wage is paid based on how many hours he works.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;.egg&amp;quot; is not a real [[Wikipedia:List of Internet top-level domains|top-level domain]], meaning that &amp;quot;www.whatthepfargtl.egg&amp;quot; cannot currently be registered. The domain [http://whatthepfargtl.com whatthepfargtl.com] was [http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=whatthepfargtl.com registered] by [[Harmless Junk, Inc.]] on the day this toon was released. However, they have not yet set up a site there.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Remarks===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Floppyshirt.png|thumb|&amp;quot;I prefer these big ones because they hold more memory, although you have to fold them up to fit them into these new computers.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*The little stitching on Strong Bad's shirt where a name tag would normally go is actually a 5-&amp;amp;#188; inch floppy diskette.&lt;br /&gt;
*Strong Bad uses the correct hand to type each letter in &amp;quot;pfargtl&amp;quot; (using the normal [[Wikipedia:QWERTY|QWERTY]] keyboard layout) except for 'g', which should be typed with the left hand, not the right. &lt;br /&gt;
*In the third deleted scene, Homestar's head is in front of the speech bubble when he says, &amp;quot;What the pfargtl?&amp;quot;, but in the theatrical trailer, the speech bubble is nowhere to be seen.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Fixed Goofs===&lt;br /&gt;
*When the trailer was first released you could hear a snippet of Coach Z saying &amp;quot;Ya know...&amp;quot; after www.whatthepfargtl.egg faded from view. This was fixed during that same day. You can still hear this by stopping the video and listening after the trailer.&lt;br /&gt;
*When the trailer was first released, the synopsis on the &amp;quot;Shorts&amp;quot; Toons page was &amp;quot;A deleted scene with delted&amp;lt;!--sic--&amp;gt; scenes?!&amp;quot;. The Shorts menu description was later changed to match the New Stuff menu description.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Glitches===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sbemail169delmistake.png|thumb|right|'Sup, straight cut?]]&lt;br /&gt;
*In the trailer, as soon as the scene cuts to Strong Bad asking &amp;quot;'Sup, hourly wage?&amp;quot;, for a split second at the far right of the area, the Corpy's monitor appears to be cut off in a straight edge.&lt;br /&gt;
*Also when Strong Bad turns his head left in the same scene, part of his outline disappears as he is talking.&lt;br /&gt;
*The loop on the main page will sometimes get interrupted by Strong Bad saying &amp;quot;So where were we...&amp;quot; then cuts back to the loop.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Inside References===&lt;br /&gt;
*The entire toon is a self-parody of toons such as [[The King of Town DVD]] and [[In Search of the Yello Dello]].&lt;br /&gt;
**The ratings screen at the start of the trailer is almost identical to the one at the start of [[In Search of the Yello Dello Theatrical Trailer]].&lt;br /&gt;
*The storyboards are presented in the style of a [[Dullard]] comic.&lt;br /&gt;
*Both Strong Bad and Coach Z have a [[Lack of Visible Arms#Other_Apparently_Invisible_Body_Parts|nose]] in the storyboard.&lt;br /&gt;
*The .[[egg]] in the URL at the end of the trailer is a reference to Homestar's line in &amp;quot;[[pom pom]].&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*Strong Bad says &amp;quot;Oh, [[dan]]...guh&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*The title in the DVD menu is a [[sticky note]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Coach Z's vacuum, the Suk-a-Dux 5000, resembles the one Strong Bad used in [[other days]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Coach Z's consommé comment may be a reference to [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]]'s description of [[Cherry Greg]] in the [[Fluffy Puff Commercial#Second Commentary Transcript|second]] commentary of [[Fluffy Puff Commercial]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[from work]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[hr:169lostdvd.html|watch &amp;quot;Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[hr:169lostdvd.swf|view the Flash file for &amp;quot;Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Forum:11325|Forum thread re: &amp;quot;Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Shorts]] [[Category:Strong Bad Email]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;The Magic Pixel:&amp;#32;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Crack Advertizerman? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me, or does the narrorator for the ad sound like Crack Stuntman a little? [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 11:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;The Magic Pixel:&amp;#32;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Crack Advertizerman? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me, or does the narrorator for the ad sound like Crack Stuntman a little?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;The Magic Pixel:&amp;#32;New page: {{talk|11290}} == Crack Advertizerman? ==  Is it just me, or does the narrorator for the ad sound like Crack Stuntman a little?&lt;/p&gt;
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== Crack Advertizerman? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me, or does the narrorator for the ad sound like Crack Stuntman a little?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>The Magic Pixel</name></author>	</entry>

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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;The Magic Pixel:&amp;#32;/* 8-Bit resemblence */&lt;/p&gt;
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== What about a SECRET Hot Date ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there a connection between the &amp;quot;secret hot date&amp;quot; Cardboard Marzipan invited the Cheat on and the &amp;quot;hot date&amp;quot; they actually went on?  Is the fact that there are fireworks in both of the cartoons relevant? {{unsigned|75.85.125.208|22:58, 23 April 2007}}&lt;br /&gt;
:Might even mention the end of [[do over]] in relation to this too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, there's definitely been a pattern here. also note the &amp;quot;who's making out with marzipan&amp;quot; line from the cheat's theme song. that was probably the first lead in, or whatever --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]&lt;br /&gt;
Also peculiar that Marzipan doesn't seem to mind The Cheat's small talk about two Ira's, after being annoyed by Homestar's two Sid's in [[date]]. [[User:61.149.38.114|61.149.38.114]] 13:12, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, Homestar was playing a stupid, boring game that she had no hope of winning. The Cheat was actually holding a conversation. -[[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
::The &amp;quot;Making out with Marzipan&amp;quot; thing was a reference to the [[Homestar Talker]] game. The original wining phrase was &amp;quot;Making out with Marzipan is totally awesome.&amp;quot; {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:04, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Irony ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it worth mentioning that Strong Bad proposes that they drown the Cheat and Marzipan, but in the end it is Homestar and Strong Bad who are drowned? {{unsigned|75.85.125.208|22:58, 23 April 2007}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's along the lines of explaining the joke, something not normally done around here unless it's rather obscure. Also, please sign your talk page posts with four tildes (&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;){{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Public Rage-o flyer ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The broken glasses could be a play off of the glasses Ira Glass wears.  (They look quite similar)  Anyone else think so?  -Cappy Red [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 08:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, I thought the same thing. Weird when you see radio people on TV. It's always like &amp;quot;I don't know what I would have expected him to look like, but it just ain't that.&amp;quot; {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes, the first rule of thumb for all radio personalities is to [[:Image:deadlypallor.png|look]] absolutely nothing like how they sound. =3 {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Oh yeah, forgot we'd already had a lesson on that. Glass actually comes ''close'' to what you'd (I'd) expect him to look like, but just not quite. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 09:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Truly, he looks just different enough so as to throw you off.  It's like he has his own personal [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley uncanny valley] ;¬) -Cappy Red [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 15:23, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 8-Bit resemblence ==&lt;br /&gt;
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i'm not suggesting anybody uses this, but does any one else notice any echoes of Black Mage from 8-bit theater in Strong Bad when he's discussing the drowning of Marzipan and the Cheat? especially the &amp;quot;Explain to me how drowning them wouldn't ruin their date&amp;quot; line. it's funny, but that's just me.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Strong Bad always sounds like that. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Heh, that is totally something BM would say. [[User:The makuta|The makuta]] 13:47, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Sounds like a combonation of BM and Bob from Bob and George. But mostly BM. [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 15:19, 29 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mario ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I obviously thought of Mario when Strong Bad said &amp;quot;Itsa me, the chef-a&amp;quot;, but I don't know if it's really that clear. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 09:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Mario has a bad Italian accent too, yes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:One of Mario's catchphrases is &amp;quot;It's-a me! Mario!&amp;quot; I thought of Mario as well. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 10:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Stereotypical Italian, probably. I thought it was Mario as well, but an Italian seems more practical. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 10:25, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Shockingly, Mario ''is'' Italian. and we know TBC are nintendo guys, i'd expect them to have had mario in the front of their minds as a role model for a fake-italian accent --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]&lt;br /&gt;
::::I immediately thought of Mario. It brought me back to my N64 days. The startup screen...&amp;quot;Itsa me! Mario! *doo doo doo doo doo doo* Hello!&amp;quot; --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 22:03, 24 Apr 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Methinks it's a stereotypical Italian chef. Not Mario. It's POSSIBLE, but I doubt it. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Not possible. It's stereotyped Italian, just as Mario is. If it's like Mario, it's stereotypical Italian, and is no ref to Mario. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:15, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Mario is not the only Italian in the world.  He's not even the only Italian stereotype.  Have you forgotten [[Wikipedia:List_of_recurring_characters_from_The_Simpsons#Luigi_Risotto|Luigi]]?  The one on the Simpsons, not Mario's brother!  --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 03:55, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::My opinion: I think a reference to Mario. My username may play a part in this, though. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::I didn't think of Mario at all when I first watched this, and my initial reaction to the idea was that it is only a play on the stereotype.  But I did a few [http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;q=%22it%27sa+me%22&amp;amp;btnG=Google+Search google] [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;amp;safe=off&amp;amp;q=%22it%27s-a-me%22&amp;amp;btnG=Search searches] and an overwhelming majority of the results pertain to Mario, often the N64 incarnation of the game.  I'm still hesitant, but now I'm not as sure.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The reason I thought of Mario was because of the &amp;quot;Itsa me ***&amp;quot; format. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 04:10, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Speaking as an IP address, I probably don't have much clout, but I'd definitely say Mario reference.  Stereotypical italians don't say &amp;quot;Itsa Me!&amp;quot; Only Mario does. [[User:129.64.141.43|129.64.141.43]] 16:06, 25 April 2007 (UTC) (oh, and this image code thing is disgusting, I normally can get these things no problem, but this is just like paint splatters)&lt;br /&gt;
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:(129.64.141.43, I replied [[User talk:129.64.141.43|here]]) This one's a tough call, but I'm leaning toward it being a reference to Mario here. The discussion is so evenly split, I think that [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] would be helpful here &amp;amp;mdash; I'll get one started. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Okay, [[STUFF:Date Nite#Thank you, chef! But our reference is in another castle.|here it is]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I also thought of Mario right away, but that doesn't mean that that's what TBC were thinking of when they wrote the cartoon. --[[User:Lux Acerbus|Lux Acerbus]] 01:25, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Another Reference to Coach Z thinking he's a woman ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The curlers on Coach Z's head and the rolling pin he's holding seems to be another reference to Coach Z thinking he's a woman, the other being when he said he was a mom in an easter egg at the end of Sbemail #129 Garage Sale.&lt;br /&gt;
:I think it's unwise to assume that Coach is conscientiously pretending to be a woman. Can't TBC just stick him in the cartoon to make a final punchline with no strings attached? &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Right now the page suggests that Coach Z is a &amp;quot;mom&amp;quot; in this cartoon.  He is clearly displaying characteristics of a woman (certain attitude, curlers, rolling pin), but there is no indication that he is acting like a &amp;quot;mom&amp;quot; (a particular kind of woman). [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 17:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think he's acting like a wife. I mean, that's just such a classic image in television and movies. I don't know if he's doing it on purpose or if he just has a complex, though. Personally, I was thinking OTP. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
::::I think he's being portrayed as a mother. Mabye he's actually a girl. We have no way of knowing if he is or not. He may actually be Bubs' mother. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 19:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Oh my. That would be quite the interesting development...--[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 22:04, 24 Apr 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Believe it or not, there are some men who wear curlers (I'm involved in the dance world :P). Though I agree it's more than likely a joke that he's playing a mom. Nothin' serious. Coach Z has always been weird. [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:29, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::We have, after all, established that he has more than two problems. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Going down with the ship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is the fact that Homestar and Strong Bad are singing the national anthem as their 'ship' goes down a reference to anything? It seems familiar to me, but I don't know where from... {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I thought of [[Wikipedia:RMS Titanic|Titanic]] when I first saw it. The orchestra on the ship continued playing as the ship was sinking. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 11:27, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I thought of that Looney Toons with Nero and Yosemite Sam as a Roman centurion and the pillar slowly falling while Nero plays Taps on a violin. Maybe something like that inspired them. [[User:Elvis|Uhuh huh. Thankyaveramuch.]] 12:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think Elvis got it. This &amp;quot;going down with the ship&amp;quot; thing seems very cartoony. Looney Toony. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:45, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Okay bear with me a second. I've never actually seen the Hunt for Red October, so I'm getting this from my mom. In order to hijack the Red October and go to America, they took it out on the maiden voyage. The part of the crew that was in on the plot arranged a fake nuclear explosion and forced the rest of the crew off the sub. That part of the crew was standing on an American ship when the fake explosion occurred, and they sang the Russian national anthem while the Red October &amp;quot;sank&amp;quot;. I think that's the reference the Brothers Chaps were going for. -[[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
::Could be that too. You never know for sure what they are thinking. I say we shouldn't try to pinpoint this as a solid reference to anything in particular. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Except they don't sing the anthem as the ship goes down. The Russians stand on the deck of the rescuing American ship, silent and mournfully removing their caps, staring at the sea. They sing it much earlier in the film, when they first engage the [[Wikipedia:Magnetohydrodynamic drive|caterpillar drive]]. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::It's actually another sub that explodes. The Russian Anthem does play at the end of the movie IIRC. It's close, but I wouldn't call it a reference.{{User:NFITC1/sig}} 13:56, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::They didn't know it was another sub, of course. At the end, it's not the Russian anthem, but a reprise of the main theme of the movie. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:23, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I fail to see how this is cartoony. It's a common motif, not a reference to anything in particular.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could be a reference to most cartoons, which sing/plays [[Wikipedia:Taps|Taps]] as their ship sinks. - {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
Mind, I don't think it should be in the article, but for the record, I thought the same thing. &amp;quot;Hm, Red October reference, singing a national anthem...&amp;quot; &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rockets ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the inside references section it mentions the part in SBIIJC where the bang was all that was needed. Wouldn't the fathoom be necessary in this case, considering without it Homestar and Strong Bad would just blow up? [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 12:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yea, I noticed the same thing. From what I can tell, they want the fathoom so that they fire towards Marzipan and The Cheat. I'm changing it. [[User:The makuta|The makuta]] 13:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fundraising weeks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How many local NPR stations are having their drives this week?  I know it is in Jacksonville, FL.&lt;br /&gt;
:Why are you asking this? What relativity does it have to Homestar Runner? Why didn't you sign your post? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:22, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Because the Easter egg is about public radio fundraising drives, during the same time that many NPR stations are having fundraising drives. That's why. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I didn't read the easter egg. It just seemed really out of the blue. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 21:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I'd say the fact doesn't belong. There is no official schedule that I'm aware of for fund raising on public radio, so each week could be a fundraising week for some station. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Don't read it, watch it! {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:07, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Huh? What am I not supposed to read and supposed to watch? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:49, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::That was a reply to Jangles' &amp;quot;I didn't read the easter egg.&amp;quot;{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:50, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== FUN Facts.  FUN ==&lt;br /&gt;
How is this piece of trivia a Fun fact? &amp;quot;Marzipan strokes her right eye with mascara 18 times.&amp;quot; I'm pretty sure it isn't. [[User:63.229.175.33|63.229.175.33]] 14:40, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Good point. I've deleted it- maybe whoever put it there would mind explaining why it's of interest? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 15:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::oh, you know, just in case someone wanted to be able to say that they apply makeup just like marzipan does or something --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Squared Circle ==&lt;br /&gt;
The Squared Circle is a term used in Professional Wrestling, because unlike the actual sport, where they wrestle within a circle, the entertainment version takes place in a square ring, hence, square instead of circle.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Differnet ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it just me, or did this toon seem... I dunno... different than the older ones somehow? Did TBC use a different engine to make it or something?--[[User:Homsar Lover|Homsar Lover]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Looks like Flash to me. Maybe they upgraded the program or something. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe you're not used to the style used (as in it's night, romance, fancy resteraunts, etc.).-{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Marzipan's house ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm pretty sure Homestar and Marzipan live together now. [[User:130.91.36.229|130.91.36.229]] 17:49, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:DVD Commentary on [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]:&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;'''MATT:''' Dude, I don't want to hint at any cohabitation here, okay?&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:--[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Although they probably don't, alot of things hint at it, such as the &amp;quot;stay home running in place&amp;quot; (Homestar was jogging at Marzy's house) and the &amp;quot;Marzipan, I'm home!&amp;quot; from [[your funeral]]. But, of couse, the above quote dispells all. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::So, [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]] was what, three years ago? They sure do seem to live together now, though. [[User:76.99.53.18|76.99.53.18]] 22:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC) (Same guy, different IP address.)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That commentary was recorded last summer. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:57, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Strong Bad, Nice? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me, or is strong bad being a friend towards homestar? isn't that out of character?&lt;br /&gt;
:Strong Bad can be civil when he wants. Besides, they had a common goal. I admit, it was a little 'Bwuh?', though. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
::The common goal between Homestar and Strong Bad is what made this toon stand out. And quite nicely too. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I've seen this before in cartoons. [[Wikipedia:The Fairly Oddparents|Fairly Oddparents]], for one. Timmy and Remy were both mad at Cupid in one episode, so they truced (even though they are enemies) to &amp;quot;kill&amp;quot; him (or at least seriously injure him, that gorrilla looked an''gry'') --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Maybe to make it so you don't have to have watched that episode to know what it's about, I'll reference [[Wikipedia:The Jimmy Timmy Power Hour 2: When Nerds Collide|this episode]], in which Jimmy and Timmy team up to make it so the anti-faires (and later Professor Calamitous) don't take over the world. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A little gay...==&lt;br /&gt;
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Don't be mad at me or anything, but dosen't it seem the SB and TC are...(ugh). I mean, Homestar was mad at Marzi because she is going out with another man and she is his girlfriend, but SB was mad at TC for the same reason, making TC his...Boyfriend?!? -A little confused, {{User:HeyMama/sig}} 04:32 pm, Tuesday, April 24th.&lt;br /&gt;
:Strong Bad 1. Hates Marzipan and B. Is TC's best friend. Of course he's angry. It's Coach Z we should be worried about though :P {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:37, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, personally, I don't know why that would be worrying. On the other hand, this is really a discussion for the forum.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No.  Strong Bad hates Marzipan.  The gay relationship we should worry about is Strong Mad and The Cheat.{{unsigned|Tgcdse|15:50, 25 April 2007}}&lt;br /&gt;
::What Loafing said.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 22:53, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::This thread is veering out of talk page appropriateness but let me state that in no way would I buy for a second that TBC are ever going to present their characters in any relationship other than goofy, dysfunctional ones. Not that we need to &amp;quot;worry&amp;quot; about a gay relationship in the first place, but it's as close to a certainty as anything is in this world that TBC are not intending their characters to be gay. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:it might be worrisome that TBC might be introducing gay themes to HR.com.  Isn't that the entire point of HeyMama's post?  I might be able to ignore your politically correct notions that homosexuality is normal if you didn't feel the need to lecture people about it and then complain that the discussion is inappropriate.  If you truly thought it was inappropriate you wouldn't engage in it yourselves, but merely say &amp;quot;this is inappropriate.&amp;quot;  But that urge to add your viewpoint on homosexuality to the thread is just too strong to pass up, isn't it?  My guess is that TBC leave gay themes out of HR.com because it ''isn't'' normal and it offends a lot of people.  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 07:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::This is inappropriate. You have now ''both'' given in to the urge to state your personal viewpoints. This thread is not material to the content of the article, so, per our talk page policy, please stop using it for discussion. You or anyone else is certainly welcome to continue this subject, so long as it's not here. As it has been repeatedly suggested, our forum is one such venue where you can go to talk about it if you so desire. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Strong Sad's voice ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me, or does Strong Sad's voice sound suddenly different? Deeper or something. [[User:Ekul|Ekul]] 21:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Yes, Strong Sad's voice and character have been evolving a bit lately. Just this year, he's already been physicially violent toward Strong Bad (Rough Copy) and smiled willingly (Looking Old) before that. Nothing particularly unusual about it, though, as this sort of evolution happens with all of the characters from time to time. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 08:57, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Title Card ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is this the only toon, other than [[Summer Short Shorts]], that has a title card in it?--[[User:SDSpivey|SDSpivey]] 21:47, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Ummm...what do you mean by Title Card?? --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:56, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::A [[Wikipedia:Title card|title card]] is a separate image of the show's title. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:00, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] had a title card. Some of the older ones (like [[A Jorb well done]] and [[Powered by The Cheat]] cartoons) -{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
::Speaking of title cards, should someone add that at the end of the title sequence, the 'e' falls against the title frame?[[User:Sir Vimes|Sir Vimes]] 23:38, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Every Big Toon, even from 2005-now, has a title card.  (although for [[Strongest Man in the World]] they simply reused the cover of [[The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest]], which the toon is based on)  Also, every major Halloween toon, the [[Puppet Stuff]], and every [[Decemberween]] special except the email [[what i want]] have title cards. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:08, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Isn't the tilted 'e' a reference to a sign for a famous club or bar or restaurant or something (or maybe it was a painting)?  I swear I've seen something similar to it before.  Does anyone know what I'm taking about? [[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 05:43, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Dell? Enron? Sorry my mind reading abilities are on the fritz.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 06:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::No, it wasn't like a company (I don't think).  I think the format of the sign was similar, two words on top of one another, the last one or two letters being the same in both words, so they used a large letter for both.  I can picture it, but I can't name it for the life of me.  I dunno, maybe divine inspiration will hit me at some point to remember it.[[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 20:27, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Strong Bad Old-timey Strong Bad Reference ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it me or is that italian mustache SB was wearing look kinda like Old-Timey SB's mustache? {{User:Austio888888/sig}} 23:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:A lot of mustaches have appeared in Homestar Runner. See [[Mustaches]]. Also, Old-Timey SB's 'stache is a lot longer, methinks. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I thought the same thing - I wondered if it's worth mentioning that SB resembles his Old-Timey counterpart here. --{{User:NoMayonnaise/sig}} 15:35, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fireworks mirror ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think we should do a mirror where the fireworks goof appears (when they're still attached to the ship when they sink) like the &amp;quot;floating lime&amp;quot; mirror in [[Let us give TANKS!]]. I have the flash file for that version, so I think that would help. How would I upload it? --{{User:Darkangel/sig}} 03:48, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You wouldn't. Only images and audio can be uploaded. Tom runs the mirror as far as I know, so if he doesn't already have it, you'd have to get it to him. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:17, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Perhaps you could take a screen shot of the fireworks appearing on the sub? Just a suggestion --[[User:Murgatroid|Murgatroid]] 05:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Email it to the address at the bottom of [[User:Tom#Contact me|Tom]]'s user page. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:20, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== ... that fake mustache he always wears ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I acknowledge that the mustache appearance is a good inside reference, but isn't this more directly an inside reference to Fabrosi / Homestar's fake mustaches from Lady-ing given the fact that the Cheat's mustache is a fake? [[User:71.96.169.82|71.96.169.82]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Since when did Homestar have a fake mustache in lady...ing? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:41, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Since the Easter egg. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:45, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Oh. Now see, I've never watched that Easter Egg. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::For shame, Martyo, for shame. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Four, then? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Who is Marzipan referring to when remarks that Homestar has had to fight off four foxes' mothers to stay loyal to her? The first thing that popped in my head was TGS, but that doesn't really make sense. Could it be the failed female characters they're referring to? Champeen and them? [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:31, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh, nevahmind, it's prolly just that's as high as he can count. LOL [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:32, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::('''edit conflict''')She's not referring to anyone in particular. Homestar says &amp;quot;more than I can count,&amp;quot; so she's making fun of him by saying he can't even count to 4. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 15:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Character Development ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Woah. This is the first time I've seen real character development, done by characters, with actual development, since, like...ever. Does anyone else notice that? And feel unnverved? [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 15:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:This is probably the most salient example, but I think it would be difficult to hold that it is the first time.  There are snippets of character development here and there, if we allow that the entire world of www.homestarrunner.com is one holistic narrative.  For example, we know that the relationship between Strong Sad and Strong Bad wasn't always as it is now ([[The Secrets That I Keep]]).  We also see a desperate attempt by the KOT to become a cool character (seeking help from Marzipan on her answering machine and creating KOTVOQPCS, which by it's name implies that the KOT is &amp;quot;popular&amp;quot;).  Numerous characters have had epiphanies of self-awareness (SS &amp;quot;I'm a waste of space&amp;quot;, CZ &amp;quot;I've hit rack bartom!&amp;quot;).  And throughout the entire narrative we see fluctuating relational dynamics between all of the characters; their attitudes and behavior towards one another does not remain static (at times SB hates HR, and at other times they are found playing Cheat Commandos or drinking 'old ones together).  Because HR.com is episodic in nature it is difficult to see much character development in any given instance, but as a broader story arc it should be easier to see development. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 02:32, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Don't forget Strong Sad's development in Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon. That was a big one. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jail reference? ==&lt;br /&gt;
Doesn't the use of fireworks used as TNT count as a reference to the [[Strong Bad is in Jail]] 'toon? -{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
:Yep. Already mentioned. Same brand of rockets and everything. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== BIAS ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think the current interpretation of the phrase &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; found on the tape in the easter egg might be the wrong one.&lt;br /&gt;
Public radio is commonly perceived as having a left leaning ''political bias''.  The addition of the word &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; might refer to the perception that this political bias is normal for public radio.&lt;br /&gt;
Further, &amp;quot;Normal bias&amp;quot; is in the label location, where the person who records something onto the tape indicates what the recording is or is about (such as &amp;quot;David Bowie&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;2007 mix tape&amp;quot;).  If &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; was actually referring to the technical design of the tape we might expect to find it stamped on the tape in a different location and in a different manner.  We don't find other technical aspects of a tape or CD-R (such as &amp;quot;120 minutes&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;700 Mb&amp;quot;) in the label area of the item.  Any thoughts?  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 01:20, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm a little confused... just answering the last question you asked there, it's a cartoon, and TBC don't have time to draw in every little detail, especially on a tape or CD. Or Laserdisc. The &amp;quot;Normal Bias&amp;quot; label is there for satirical humor. I mean, what's funnier, &amp;quot;Normal Bias&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;TapeMakers 90 minutes&amp;quot;? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 01:27, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I just looked at what is posted about &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; and I can see why you are confused.  Let me clarify my previous post.  If you follow the link on the word &amp;quot;bias&amp;quot; it will take you to a wikipedia article about tape bias, a technical development in sound reproduction for cassette tapes.  By linking to this article, it is suggested that the use of the term &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; in the cartoon refers to Tape Bias.  My previous post was meant to argue that Tape Bias is the wrong way to interpret &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; and that there is a better, more likely interpretation.  My error was in thinking that the current interpretation is more obvious than it really is, thus I am at fault for your confusion.  With this clarification in mind, I hope that my previous post is more clear to you.  I propose that what is currently posted about &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; be removed from the Trivia section and in it's place we use my interpretation to explain &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; in the Real World References section.  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 02:30, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I think it's referring to tape bias &amp;amp;mdash; see [[geddup noise]] and [[Sketchbook 2006#SK-2006-08-31]] for other places that this comes up in the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] body of work. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Good point.  I am still puzzled why tech specs would be found in the user label portion of the tape, but the fact that the geddup noise radio station is a ribald morning show and ''not'' public radio demands the conclusion you have reached. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 02:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I think they simply didn't put as much thought as you into what they put on the tape to make it look like a tape. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:56, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Also, bias is something that is applied to the tape when it is recorded, it's not inherent to the specific tape itself (though, different bias is better for different kinds of tape).  When I used to work with tapes extensively I would always note on the label what bias I used to record the tape (in fact, there was typically a checkbox devoted to it on the user label).{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Incidentally, I'm the one who originally added the link to [[Wikipedia:Tape bias|tape bias]], which I put there for readers who might not know there was a double meaning to the word. But I've always thought that the pun was intended. That is, I think they used the technical term as a play on the political sense of the words. I figured linking to anything besides tape bias would be unnecessarily explaining the joke. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:58, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I can't say I agree; Homestar Runner stuff rarely if ever ventures into sociopolitical commentary.  It goes against the idea of the body of work.  Also, considering there was nothing political in the broadcast, it seems like a severe stretch. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 23:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Marzipan eats Marshmallows?! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A primary ingredient in Marshmallows is gelatin, which made from boiled animal bones. I don't think Marzipan would like this very much (since she is a vegetarian). Thoughts? I modified the article to show this, but it was reverted and claimed to be &amp;quot;nit-picking.&amp;quot;  Hardly. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 02:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Is Marzipan a vegetarian? Can you cite where it's disclosed? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:57, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, it's mentioned without citation a couple times on this wiki... but the only thing close to an official statement that I see comes from [[All_Things_Considered_Interview_-_8_May_2005|a 2005 interview on NPR]], in which the interviewer refers to Marzipan as &amp;quot;Homestar's Vegetarian girlfriend&amp;quot; and his statement is not refuted by TBC.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:05, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It's pretty safe to assume that Marzipan is a vegetarian or vegan of some kind.  Her mascara, for instance.  The tofu BBQ, for another.  [[Homestar Jr.]], for a third.  You may not have a verbal confession from her, but all signs point to that assumption.  I would suggest that based on the evidence we have it is harder to prove that she ''isn't'' a vegetarian than that she ''is''. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 03:28, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::However - Vegan Mascara might be a brand name. I like tofu almost as much as I like a steak. And reporters do get facts wrong sometimes, even NPR. I think it's just speculation to decide she's a vegan/strict vegetarian/weak vegetarian without explicit establishment. If the fact is included, it needs to be worded so as not to say she &amp;quot;is&amp;quot; a vegetarian, but that she might be; and also without weaseling the fact to the point of it no longer being notable. A challenge. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::All you need to prove that she isn't a vegetarian is an instance where she clearly violates general vegetarian protocol (marshmallows, we should agree, is a gray area).  In the logic tradition and in real world common sense 'no instance of violating vegetarian protocol' + 'numerous instances of demonstrating vegetarian behavior' = 'the fair assumption that Marzipan is a vegetarian.'  Put simply, I think your standard of proof is unnecessarily high.  My standard is the one practiced in the disciplines of Philosophy, History, English, and Behavioral Psychology, to name a few, and ought to be sufficient for a silly cartoon web site.  Your challenge does not need to be answered because a reasonable and sufficient argument has already been offered (not &amp;quot;just speculation&amp;quot;), not only by myself, but by Bryanc as well.  Again, a contrary example is all you need to prove our contention false.  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 04:08, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::She could just be stupid, ignorant, or misinformed.  This could also be a mistake by The Brothers Chaps. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 05:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Speaking of stupid, ignorant, or misinformed, how about those vegetarians? {snicker}.  Seriously though, I would have to agree in the end that it probably is just a mistake (and an understandable and forgivable one at that) by TBC; this would seem the most likely explanation for the perceived inconsistency. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 07:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Lynx, I don't need to prove she's not anything. The natural presumption is that people are like most other people unless there is evidence to the contrary. I maintain that calling her a vegetarian is speculative unless there is firm evidence. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I think what Lynx is trying to argue is that there is quite a lot of evidence.  Each piece of evidence alone may be interpreted as circumstantial, but the summation of it all lends great credence to the probability that Marzipan is indeed a vegetarian.  You are absolutely correct that there is no definitive proof.  She sure eats like one though.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Qermaq, I didn't say you needed to prove anything- you have it backwards.  I said that if you want to end all doubt and vindicate your position there is a simple way.  I didn't say &amp;quot;you need to ''prove''&amp;quot;, I said &amp;quot;what you ''need'' to prove.&amp;quot;  There's a real difference there.  I won't continue to rehash this topic with you, but I do want to say for the sake of others reading this that there ''is'' evidence that she is a vegetarian, the assumption is a reasonable one, not a speculative one, according to classical epistemology.  Instead of yielding to better reasoning, my friend Qermaq seems to be ignoring the firm evidence provided and misinterpreting what I have said.  I would that he follow my example from above (the BIAS discussion) and simply admit when he is beat.  I will say no more.  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 06:23, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::On the [[Chinese Food Toons Menu]] TBC imply ''very'' strongly that Marzipan is a vegetarian in the subtext to [[The Reddest Radish]].  Also, if this is being questioned than it follows that [[The Luau]], [[Marzipan]], and [[Old-Timey Marzipan]] all should be re-worded also.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Incidentally, the word vegan was [http://www.vegansociety.com/html/business/trademark/opportunities/standards.php coined] by The Vegan Society in the UK which still retains related trademarks.  A mascara company would not likely be granted permission to use the word as a brand name, even if the product was vegan.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You're confusing reality with the toon. I am not suggesting that &amp;quot;vegan&amp;quot; is indeed a brand name or even eligible to be one. I'm saying that in the H*R universe it could be intended as such. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I meant that as a sort of trivial interjection, but even so, why would they choose that particular brand name?{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Gelatin is sort of a gray area for some vegetarians, so are dairy products and eggs.  Certainly there are vegetarians who will not eat them, vegans definitely won't, but I do know several vegetarians who do eat such things.  I'm actually not against mentioning this fact in the article really, just wanted to mention that.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:12, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No, it isn't.  Just like meat, gelatin comes from the dead body of an animal.  Dairy products and eggs are clearly gray areas, but gelatin is *not*. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 05:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Further, this is ''Chilean Sea'' Marshmallow. Maybe it's a naturally-occurring plant life form, like the sea cucumber? Or maybe it's a soy-based marshmallow substitute? (What we really need is an Explanation about sea bass...) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::It ''is'' possible to make vegetarian/vegan marshmallows without using gelatin. Given that Marzipan's exact status as a non-meat-eater is fuzzy, I think it would be a stretch to draw any kind of conclusion from the fact that she eats a marshmallow (which hardly count as food anyway). &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:04, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: 1 - The [[Marzipan]] article clearly states that she is a vegetarian.&lt;br /&gt;
: 2 - Although the specific type of vegetarianism that Marzipan follows is not known, eating gelatin is against *all* of them.  The [[Wikipedia:Vegetarian|wikipedia article]] has a good discussion of the various types.  You will note that all of them decry the eating of meat (remains of dead animals.) &lt;br /&gt;
: Thus, this is pretty clearly a goof to me. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 05:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::re: 1 - Yes it does, but when it comes to citations we can't cite ourselves.&lt;br /&gt;
::re: 2 - I can't knowledgeably comment on this, suffice to say that I know more than one self-proclaimed vegetarians who will eat gelatin.  Perhaps that makes them not-really-vegetarians.&lt;br /&gt;
::Dot com has already pointed out that there are readily available recipes to make marshmallow's that are both vegetarian and vegan.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Correct.  A &amp;quot;vegetarian&amp;quot; who eats gelatin is no more a true vegetarian than one who eats chicken or beef.  I do concede that there are vegetarian marshmallow recipes, though. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 14:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I strongly agree with Bryanc in all three points. As a non-gelatin-eating vegetarian, I say this is not a goof. Also, if anybody feels any further need to discuss whether Marzipan is a veg(etari)an or not, then this talk page is ''not'' the place to do it. Please do this at [[Talk:Marzipan#Vegetarian or vegan?]]. Thanks.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pledge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it be relevant to include an explanation of what a 'pledge' is in the Explanations section?  There must be at least some people who would benefit from the knowledge (myself included).--[[User:Tally Solleni|Tally Solleni]] 16:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sure &amp;amp;mdash; I'll try to add a little bit, and feel free to edit it if you can improve it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How Was Your Coincidence? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It's probably not a direct reference, but I can't help but notice one of Marzipan's lines (&amp;quot;My almond-encrusted Chilean sea marshmallow was just delicious. How was your hot dog?&amp;quot;) is strikingly similar to Veronica Lodge's line from the cover of Archie #547, which I read in the Editor's Notebook. (&amp;quot;My lobster thermador was superb!  How was your hot dog?&amp;quot;) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 06:30, 28 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'd say that's reference material.  I felt like Marzipan's &amp;quot;how was your hot dog?&amp;quot; was something that I'd heard/seen before, but I'm not at all familar with Archie.  Maybe the gag has been used in other works?  (A quick web search doesn't turn up anything in particular; not even the Archie quote.)  --[[User:Rriegs|Rriegs]] 10:29, 28 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I just thought it was a coincidence because I didn't catch any other references to Archie. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:41, 28 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Bod&amp;quot; reference ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Homestar's line &amp;quot;That you--gulp--'want his bod'?&amp;quot; is pretty close to the line dropped by Strong Bad in [[lady...ing]], &amp;quot;Oh, Marzipan. Do you want a-my bod!&amp;quot;  Anyone think it's worth a mention in the article?  --[[User:Rriegs|Rriegs]] 10:15, 28 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reminiscent? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Homestar and Strong Bad singing as their ship sinks is reminiscent of how the orchestra on the RMS Titanic continued to play while she sank.&lt;br /&gt;
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Didn't a fun fact just get destroyed recently due to that word? Personally, I don't see any similarity at all between the two, but somehow I didn't feel right just outright removing it... anyone? -{{User:YK/sig}} 07:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bought a bod? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I keep hearing &amp;quot;gulp - bought his bod?&amp;quot; Has Marzipan paying TC to do this? [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 15:18, 29 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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== What about a SECRET Hot Date ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there a connection between the &amp;quot;secret hot date&amp;quot; Cardboard Marzipan invited the Cheat on and the &amp;quot;hot date&amp;quot; they actually went on?  Is the fact that there are fireworks in both of the cartoons relevant? {{unsigned|75.85.125.208|22:58, 23 April 2007}}&lt;br /&gt;
:Might even mention the end of [[do over]] in relation to this too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, there's definitely been a pattern here. also note the &amp;quot;who's making out with marzipan&amp;quot; line from the cheat's theme song. that was probably the first lead in, or whatever --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]&lt;br /&gt;
Also peculiar that Marzipan doesn't seem to mind The Cheat's small talk about two Ira's, after being annoyed by Homestar's two Sid's in [[date]]. [[User:61.149.38.114|61.149.38.114]] 13:12, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, Homestar was playing a stupid, boring game that she had no hope of winning. The Cheat was actually holding a conversation. -[[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
::The &amp;quot;Making out with Marzipan&amp;quot; thing was a reference to the [[Homestar Talker]] game. The original wining phrase was &amp;quot;Making out with Marzipan is totally awesome.&amp;quot; {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:04, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Irony ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it worth mentioning that Strong Bad proposes that they drown the Cheat and Marzipan, but in the end it is Homestar and Strong Bad who are drowned? {{unsigned|75.85.125.208|22:58, 23 April 2007}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's along the lines of explaining the joke, something not normally done around here unless it's rather obscure. Also, please sign your talk page posts with four tildes (&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;){{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Public Rage-o flyer ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The broken glasses could be a play off of the glasses Ira Glass wears.  (They look quite similar)  Anyone else think so?  -Cappy Red [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 08:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, I thought the same thing. Weird when you see radio people on TV. It's always like &amp;quot;I don't know what I would have expected him to look like, but it just ain't that.&amp;quot; {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes, the first rule of thumb for all radio personalities is to [[:Image:deadlypallor.png|look]] absolutely nothing like how they sound. =3 {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Oh yeah, forgot we'd already had a lesson on that. Glass actually comes ''close'' to what you'd (I'd) expect him to look like, but just not quite. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 09:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Truly, he looks just different enough so as to throw you off.  It's like he has his own personal [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley uncanny valley] ;¬) -Cappy Red [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 15:23, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 8-Bit resemblence ==&lt;br /&gt;
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i'm not suggesting anybody uses this, but does any one else notice any echoes of Black Mage from 8-bit theater in Strong Bad when he's discussing the drowning of Marzipan and the Cheat? especially the &amp;quot;Explain to me how drowning them wouldn't ruin their date&amp;quot; line. it's funny, but that's just me.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Strong Bad always sounds like that. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Heh, that is totally something BM would say. [[User:The makuta|The makuta]] 13:47, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mario ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I obviously thought of Mario when Strong Bad said &amp;quot;Itsa me, the chef-a&amp;quot;, but I don't know if it's really that clear. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 09:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Mario has a bad Italian accent too, yes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:One of Mario's catchphrases is &amp;quot;It's-a me! Mario!&amp;quot; I thought of Mario as well. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 10:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Stereotypical Italian, probably. I thought it was Mario as well, but an Italian seems more practical. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 10:25, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Shockingly, Mario ''is'' Italian. and we know TBC are nintendo guys, i'd expect them to have had mario in the front of their minds as a role model for a fake-italian accent --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]&lt;br /&gt;
::::I immediately thought of Mario. It brought me back to my N64 days. The startup screen...&amp;quot;Itsa me! Mario! *doo doo doo doo doo doo* Hello!&amp;quot; --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 22:03, 24 Apr 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Methinks it's a stereotypical Italian chef. Not Mario. It's POSSIBLE, but I doubt it. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Not possible. It's stereotyped Italian, just as Mario is. If it's like Mario, it's stereotypical Italian, and is no ref to Mario. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:15, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Mario is not the only Italian in the world.  He's not even the only Italian stereotype.  Have you forgotten [[Wikipedia:List_of_recurring_characters_from_The_Simpsons#Luigi_Risotto|Luigi]]?  The one on the Simpsons, not Mario's brother!  --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 03:55, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::My opinion: I think a reference to Mario. My username may play a part in this, though. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::I didn't think of Mario at all when I first watched this, and my initial reaction to the idea was that it is only a play on the stereotype.  But I did a few [http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;q=%22it%27sa+me%22&amp;amp;btnG=Google+Search google] [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;amp;safe=off&amp;amp;q=%22it%27s-a-me%22&amp;amp;btnG=Search searches] and an overwhelming majority of the results pertain to Mario, often the N64 incarnation of the game.  I'm still hesitant, but now I'm not as sure.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The reason I thought of Mario was because of the &amp;quot;Itsa me ***&amp;quot; format. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 04:10, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Speaking as an IP address, I probably don't have much clout, but I'd definitely say Mario reference.  Stereotypical italians don't say &amp;quot;Itsa Me!&amp;quot; Only Mario does. [[User:129.64.141.43|129.64.141.43]] 16:06, 25 April 2007 (UTC) (oh, and this image code thing is disgusting, I normally can get these things no problem, but this is just like paint splatters)&lt;br /&gt;
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:(129.64.141.43, I replied [[User talk:129.64.141.43|here]]) This one's a tough call, but I'm leaning toward it being a reference to Mario here. The discussion is so evenly split, I think that [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] would be helpful here &amp;amp;mdash; I'll get one started. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Okay, [[STUFF:Date Nite#Thank you, chef! But our reference is in another castle.|here it is]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I also thought of Mario right away, but that doesn't mean that that's what TBC were thinking of when they wrote the cartoon. --[[User:Lux Acerbus|Lux Acerbus]] 01:25, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Another Reference to Coach Z thinking he's a woman ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The curlers on Coach Z's head and the rolling pin he's holding seems to be another reference to Coach Z thinking he's a woman, the other being when he said he was a mom in an easter egg at the end of Sbemail #129 Garage Sale.&lt;br /&gt;
:I think it's unwise to assume that Coach is conscientiously pretending to be a woman. Can't TBC just stick him in the cartoon to make a final punchline with no strings attached? &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Right now the page suggests that Coach Z is a &amp;quot;mom&amp;quot; in this cartoon.  He is clearly displaying characteristics of a woman (certain attitude, curlers, rolling pin), but there is no indication that he is acting like a &amp;quot;mom&amp;quot; (a particular kind of woman). [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 17:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think he's acting like a wife. I mean, that's just such a classic image in television and movies. I don't know if he's doing it on purpose or if he just has a complex, though. Personally, I was thinking OTP. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
::::I think he's being portrayed as a mother. Mabye he's actually a girl. We have no way of knowing if he is or not. He may actually be Bubs' mother. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 19:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Oh my. That would be quite the interesting development...--[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 22:04, 24 Apr 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Believe it or not, there are some men who wear curlers (I'm involved in the dance world :P). Though I agree it's more than likely a joke that he's playing a mom. Nothin' serious. Coach Z has always been weird. [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:29, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::We have, after all, established that he has more than two problems. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Going down with the ship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is the fact that Homestar and Strong Bad are singing the national anthem as their 'ship' goes down a reference to anything? It seems familiar to me, but I don't know where from... {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I thought of [[Wikipedia:RMS Titanic|Titanic]] when I first saw it. The orchestra on the ship continued playing as the ship was sinking. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 11:27, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I thought of that Looney Toons with Nero and Yosemite Sam as a Roman centurion and the pillar slowly falling while Nero plays Taps on a violin. Maybe something like that inspired them. [[User:Elvis|Uhuh huh. Thankyaveramuch.]] 12:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think Elvis got it. This &amp;quot;going down with the ship&amp;quot; thing seems very cartoony. Looney Toony. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:45, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Okay bear with me a second. I've never actually seen the Hunt for Red October, so I'm getting this from my mom. In order to hijack the Red October and go to America, they took it out on the maiden voyage. The part of the crew that was in on the plot arranged a fake nuclear explosion and forced the rest of the crew off the sub. That part of the crew was standing on an American ship when the fake explosion occurred, and they sang the Russian national anthem while the Red October &amp;quot;sank&amp;quot;. I think that's the reference the Brothers Chaps were going for. -[[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
::Could be that too. You never know for sure what they are thinking. I say we shouldn't try to pinpoint this as a solid reference to anything in particular. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Except they don't sing the anthem as the ship goes down. The Russians stand on the deck of the rescuing American ship, silent and mournfully removing their caps, staring at the sea. They sing it much earlier in the film, when they first engage the [[Wikipedia:Magnetohydrodynamic drive|caterpillar drive]]. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::It's actually another sub that explodes. The Russian Anthem does play at the end of the movie IIRC. It's close, but I wouldn't call it a reference.{{User:NFITC1/sig}} 13:56, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::They didn't know it was another sub, of course. At the end, it's not the Russian anthem, but a reprise of the main theme of the movie. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:23, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I fail to see how this is cartoony. It's a common motif, not a reference to anything in particular.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could be a reference to most cartoons, which sing/plays [[Wikipedia:Taps|Taps]] as their ship sinks. - {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
Mind, I don't think it should be in the article, but for the record, I thought the same thing. &amp;quot;Hm, Red October reference, singing a national anthem...&amp;quot; &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rockets ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the inside references section it mentions the part in SBIIJC where the bang was all that was needed. Wouldn't the fathoom be necessary in this case, considering without it Homestar and Strong Bad would just blow up? [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 12:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yea, I noticed the same thing. From what I can tell, they want the fathoom so that they fire towards Marzipan and The Cheat. I'm changing it. [[User:The makuta|The makuta]] 13:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fundraising weeks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How many local NPR stations are having their drives this week?  I know it is in Jacksonville, FL.&lt;br /&gt;
:Why are you asking this? What relativity does it have to Homestar Runner? Why didn't you sign your post? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:22, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Because the Easter egg is about public radio fundraising drives, during the same time that many NPR stations are having fundraising drives. That's why. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I didn't read the easter egg. It just seemed really out of the blue. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 21:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I'd say the fact doesn't belong. There is no official schedule that I'm aware of for fund raising on public radio, so each week could be a fundraising week for some station. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Don't read it, watch it! {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:07, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Huh? What am I not supposed to read and supposed to watch? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:49, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::That was a reply to Jangles' &amp;quot;I didn't read the easter egg.&amp;quot;{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:50, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== FUN Facts.  FUN ==&lt;br /&gt;
How is this piece of trivia a Fun fact? &amp;quot;Marzipan strokes her right eye with mascara 18 times.&amp;quot; I'm pretty sure it isn't. [[User:63.229.175.33|63.229.175.33]] 14:40, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Good point. I've deleted it- maybe whoever put it there would mind explaining why it's of interest? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 15:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::oh, you know, just in case someone wanted to be able to say that they apply makeup just like marzipan does or something --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Squared Circle ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Differnet ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it just me, or did this toon seem... I dunno... different than the older ones somehow? Did TBC use a different engine to make it or something?--[[User:Homsar Lover|Homsar Lover]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Looks like Flash to me. Maybe they upgraded the program or something. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe you're not used to the style used (as in it's night, romance, fancy resteraunts, etc.).-{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Marzipan's house ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm pretty sure Homestar and Marzipan live together now. [[User:130.91.36.229|130.91.36.229]] 17:49, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;'''MATT:''' Dude, I don't want to hint at any cohabitation here, okay?&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:--[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Although they probably don't, alot of things hint at it, such as the &amp;quot;stay home running in place&amp;quot; (Homestar was jogging at Marzy's house) and the &amp;quot;Marzipan, I'm home!&amp;quot; from [[your funeral]]. But, of couse, the above quote dispells all. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::So, [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]] was what, three years ago? They sure do seem to live together now, though. [[User:76.99.53.18|76.99.53.18]] 22:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC) (Same guy, different IP address.)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That commentary was recorded last summer. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:57, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Strong Bad, Nice? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me, or is strong bad being a friend towards homestar? isn't that out of character?&lt;br /&gt;
:Strong Bad can be civil when he wants. Besides, they had a common goal. I admit, it was a little 'Bwuh?', though. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
::The common goal between Homestar and Strong Bad is what made this toon stand out. And quite nicely too. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I've seen this before in cartoons. [[Wikipedia:The Fairly Oddparents|Fairly Oddparents]], for one. Timmy and Remy were both mad at Cupid in one episode, so they truced (even though they are enemies) to &amp;quot;kill&amp;quot; him (or at least seriously injure him, that gorrilla looked an''gry'') --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Maybe to make it so you don't have to have watched that episode to know what it's about, I'll reference [[Wikipedia:The Jimmy Timmy Power Hour 2: When Nerds Collide|this episode]], in which Jimmy and Timmy team up to make it so the anti-faires (and later Professor Calamitous) don't take over the world. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A little gay...==&lt;br /&gt;
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Don't be mad at me or anything, but dosen't it seem the SB and TC are...(ugh). I mean, Homestar was mad at Marzi because she is going out with another man and she is his girlfriend, but SB was mad at TC for the same reason, making TC his...Boyfriend?!? -A little confused, {{User:HeyMama/sig}} 04:32 pm, Tuesday, April 24th.&lt;br /&gt;
:Strong Bad 1. Hates Marzipan and B. Is TC's best friend. Of course he's angry. It's Coach Z we should be worried about though :P {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:37, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, personally, I don't know why that would be worrying. On the other hand, this is really a discussion for the forum.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No.  Strong Bad hates Marzipan.  The gay relationship we should worry about is Strong Mad and The Cheat.{{unsigned|Tgcdse|15:50, 25 April 2007}}&lt;br /&gt;
::What Loafing said.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 22:53, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::This thread is veering out of talk page appropriateness but let me state that in no way would I buy for a second that TBC are ever going to present their characters in any relationship other than goofy, dysfunctional ones. Not that we need to &amp;quot;worry&amp;quot; about a gay relationship in the first place, but it's as close to a certainty as anything is in this world that TBC are not intending their characters to be gay. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:it might be worrisome that TBC might be introducing gay themes to HR.com.  Isn't that the entire point of HeyMama's post?  I might be able to ignore your politically correct notions that homosexuality is normal if you didn't feel the need to lecture people about it and then complain that the discussion is inappropriate.  If you truly thought it was inappropriate you wouldn't engage in it yourselves, but merely say &amp;quot;this is inappropriate.&amp;quot;  But that urge to add your viewpoint on homosexuality to the thread is just too strong to pass up, isn't it?  My guess is that TBC leave gay themes out of HR.com because it ''isn't'' normal and it offends a lot of people.  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 07:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::This is inappropriate. You have now ''both'' given in to the urge to state your personal viewpoints. This thread is not material to the content of the article, so, per our talk page policy, please stop using it for discussion. You or anyone else is certainly welcome to continue this subject, so long as it's not here. As it has been repeatedly suggested, our forum is one such venue where you can go to talk about it if you so desire. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Strong Sad's voice ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me, or does Strong Sad's voice sound suddenly different? Deeper or something. [[User:Ekul|Ekul]] 21:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Yes, Strong Sad's voice and character have been evolving a bit lately. Just this year, he's already been physicially violent toward Strong Bad (Rough Copy) and smiled willingly (Looking Old) before that. Nothing particularly unusual about it, though, as this sort of evolution happens with all of the characters from time to time. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 08:57, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Title Card ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is this the only toon, other than [[Summer Short Shorts]], that has a title card in it?--[[User:SDSpivey|SDSpivey]] 21:47, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Ummm...what do you mean by Title Card?? --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:56, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::A [[Wikipedia:Title card|title card]] is a separate image of the show's title. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:00, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] had a title card. Some of the older ones (like [[A Jorb well done]] and [[Powered by The Cheat]] cartoons) -{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
::Speaking of title cards, should someone add that at the end of the title sequence, the 'e' falls against the title frame?[[User:Sir Vimes|Sir Vimes]] 23:38, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Every Big Toon, even from 2005-now, has a title card.  (although for [[Strongest Man in the World]] they simply reused the cover of [[The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest]], which the toon is based on)  Also, every major Halloween toon, the [[Puppet Stuff]], and every [[Decemberween]] special except the email [[what i want]] have title cards. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:08, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Isn't the tilted 'e' a reference to a sign for a famous club or bar or restaurant or something (or maybe it was a painting)?  I swear I've seen something similar to it before.  Does anyone know what I'm taking about? [[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 05:43, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Dell? Enron? Sorry my mind reading abilities are on the fritz.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 06:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::No, it wasn't like a company (I don't think).  I think the format of the sign was similar, two words on top of one another, the last one or two letters being the same in both words, so they used a large letter for both.  I can picture it, but I can't name it for the life of me.  I dunno, maybe divine inspiration will hit me at some point to remember it.[[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 20:27, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Strong Bad Old-timey Strong Bad Reference ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it me or is that italian mustache SB was wearing look kinda like Old-Timey SB's mustache? {{User:Austio888888/sig}} 23:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:A lot of mustaches have appeared in Homestar Runner. See [[Mustaches]]. Also, Old-Timey SB's 'stache is a lot longer, methinks. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I thought the same thing - I wondered if it's worth mentioning that SB resembles his Old-Timey counterpart here. --{{User:NoMayonnaise/sig}} 15:35, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fireworks mirror ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think we should do a mirror where the fireworks goof appears (when they're still attached to the ship when they sink) like the &amp;quot;floating lime&amp;quot; mirror in [[Let us give TANKS!]]. I have the flash file for that version, so I think that would help. How would I upload it? --{{User:Darkangel/sig}} 03:48, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You wouldn't. Only images and audio can be uploaded. Tom runs the mirror as far as I know, so if he doesn't already have it, you'd have to get it to him. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:17, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Perhaps you could take a screen shot of the fireworks appearing on the sub? Just a suggestion --[[User:Murgatroid|Murgatroid]] 05:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Email it to the address at the bottom of [[User:Tom#Contact me|Tom]]'s user page. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:20, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== ... that fake mustache he always wears ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I acknowledge that the mustache appearance is a good inside reference, but isn't this more directly an inside reference to Fabrosi / Homestar's fake mustaches from Lady-ing given the fact that the Cheat's mustache is a fake? [[User:71.96.169.82|71.96.169.82]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Since when did Homestar have a fake mustache in lady...ing? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:41, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Since the Easter egg. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:45, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Oh. Now see, I've never watched that Easter Egg. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::For shame, Martyo, for shame. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Four, then? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Who is Marzipan referring to when remarks that Homestar has had to fight off four foxes' mothers to stay loyal to her? The first thing that popped in my head was TGS, but that doesn't really make sense. Could it be the failed female characters they're referring to? Champeen and them? [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:31, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh, nevahmind, it's prolly just that's as high as he can count. LOL [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:32, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::('''edit conflict''')She's not referring to anyone in particular. Homestar says &amp;quot;more than I can count,&amp;quot; so she's making fun of him by saying he can't even count to 4. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 15:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Character Development ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Woah. This is the first time I've seen real character development, done by characters, with actual development, since, like...ever. Does anyone else notice that? And feel unnverved? [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 15:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:This is probably the most salient example, but I think it would be difficult to hold that it is the first time.  There are snippets of character development here and there, if we allow that the entire world of www.homestarrunner.com is one holistic narrative.  For example, we know that the relationship between Strong Sad and Strong Bad wasn't always as it is now ([[The Secrets That I Keep]]).  We also see a desperate attempt by the KOT to become a cool character (seeking help from Marzipan on her answering machine and creating KOTVOQPCS, which by it's name implies that the KOT is &amp;quot;popular&amp;quot;).  Numerous characters have had epiphanies of self-awareness (SS &amp;quot;I'm a waste of space&amp;quot;, CZ &amp;quot;I've hit rack bartom!&amp;quot;).  And throughout the entire narrative we see fluctuating relational dynamics between all of the characters; their attitudes and behavior towards one another does not remain static (at times SB hates HR, and at other times they are found playing Cheat Commandos or drinking 'old ones together).  Because HR.com is episodic in nature it is difficult to see much character development in any given instance, but as a broader story arc it should be easier to see development. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 02:32, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Don't forget Strong Sad's development in Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon. That was a big one. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jail reference? ==&lt;br /&gt;
Doesn't the use of fireworks used as TNT count as a reference to the [[Strong Bad is in Jail]] 'toon? -{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
:Yep. Already mentioned. Same brand of rockets and everything. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== BIAS ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think the current interpretation of the phrase &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; found on the tape in the easter egg might be the wrong one.&lt;br /&gt;
Public radio is commonly perceived as having a left leaning ''political bias''.  The addition of the word &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; might refer to the perception that this political bias is normal for public radio.&lt;br /&gt;
Further, &amp;quot;Normal bias&amp;quot; is in the label location, where the person who records something onto the tape indicates what the recording is or is about (such as &amp;quot;David Bowie&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;2007 mix tape&amp;quot;).  If &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; was actually referring to the technical design of the tape we might expect to find it stamped on the tape in a different location and in a different manner.  We don't find other technical aspects of a tape or CD-R (such as &amp;quot;120 minutes&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;700 Mb&amp;quot;) in the label area of the item.  Any thoughts?  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 01:20, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm a little confused... just answering the last question you asked there, it's a cartoon, and TBC don't have time to draw in every little detail, especially on a tape or CD. Or Laserdisc. The &amp;quot;Normal Bias&amp;quot; label is there for satirical humor. I mean, what's funnier, &amp;quot;Normal Bias&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;TapeMakers 90 minutes&amp;quot;? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 01:27, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I just looked at what is posted about &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; and I can see why you are confused.  Let me clarify my previous post.  If you follow the link on the word &amp;quot;bias&amp;quot; it will take you to a wikipedia article about tape bias, a technical development in sound reproduction for cassette tapes.  By linking to this article, it is suggested that the use of the term &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; in the cartoon refers to Tape Bias.  My previous post was meant to argue that Tape Bias is the wrong way to interpret &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; and that there is a better, more likely interpretation.  My error was in thinking that the current interpretation is more obvious than it really is, thus I am at fault for your confusion.  With this clarification in mind, I hope that my previous post is more clear to you.  I propose that what is currently posted about &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; be removed from the Trivia section and in it's place we use my interpretation to explain &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; in the Real World References section.  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 02:30, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I think it's referring to tape bias &amp;amp;mdash; see [[geddup noise]] and [[Sketchbook 2006#SK-2006-08-31]] for other places that this comes up in the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] body of work. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Good point.  I am still puzzled why tech specs would be found in the user label portion of the tape, but the fact that the geddup noise radio station is a ribald morning show and ''not'' public radio demands the conclusion you have reached. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 02:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I think they simply didn't put as much thought as you into what they put on the tape to make it look like a tape. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:56, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Also, bias is something that is applied to the tape when it is recorded, it's not inherent to the specific tape itself (though, different bias is better for different kinds of tape).  When I used to work with tapes extensively I would always note on the label what bias I used to record the tape (in fact, there was typically a checkbox devoted to it on the user label).{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Incidentally, I'm the one who originally added the link to [[Wikipedia:Tape bias|tape bias]], which I put there for readers who might not know there was a double meaning to the word. But I've always thought that the pun was intended. That is, I think they used the technical term as a play on the political sense of the words. I figured linking to anything besides tape bias would be unnecessarily explaining the joke. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:58, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I can't say I agree; Homestar Runner stuff rarely if ever ventures into sociopolitical commentary.  It goes against the idea of the body of work.  Also, considering there was nothing political in the broadcast, it seems like a severe stretch. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 23:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Marzipan eats Marshmallows?! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A primary ingredient in Marshmallows is gelatin, which made from boiled animal bones. I don't think Marzipan would like this very much (since she is a vegetarian). Thoughts? I modified the article to show this, but it was reverted and claimed to be &amp;quot;nit-picking.&amp;quot;  Hardly. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 02:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Is Marzipan a vegetarian? Can you cite where it's disclosed? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:57, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, it's mentioned without citation a couple times on this wiki... but the only thing close to an official statement that I see comes from [[All_Things_Considered_Interview_-_8_May_2005|a 2005 interview on NPR]], in which the interviewer refers to Marzipan as &amp;quot;Homestar's Vegetarian girlfriend&amp;quot; and his statement is not refuted by TBC.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:05, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It's pretty safe to assume that Marzipan is a vegetarian or vegan of some kind.  Her mascara, for instance.  The tofu BBQ, for another.  [[Homestar Jr.]], for a third.  You may not have a verbal confession from her, but all signs point to that assumption.  I would suggest that based on the evidence we have it is harder to prove that she ''isn't'' a vegetarian than that she ''is''. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 03:28, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::However - Vegan Mascara might be a brand name. I like tofu almost as much as I like a steak. And reporters do get facts wrong sometimes, even NPR. I think it's just speculation to decide she's a vegan/strict vegetarian/weak vegetarian without explicit establishment. If the fact is included, it needs to be worded so as not to say she &amp;quot;is&amp;quot; a vegetarian, but that she might be; and also without weaseling the fact to the point of it no longer being notable. A challenge. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::All you need to prove that she isn't a vegetarian is an instance where she clearly violates general vegetarian protocol (marshmallows, we should agree, is a gray area).  In the logic tradition and in real world common sense 'no instance of violating vegetarian protocol' + 'numerous instances of demonstrating vegetarian behavior' = 'the fair assumption that Marzipan is a vegetarian.'  Put simply, I think your standard of proof is unnecessarily high.  My standard is the one practiced in the disciplines of Philosophy, History, English, and Behavioral Psychology, to name a few, and ought to be sufficient for a silly cartoon web site.  Your challenge does not need to be answered because a reasonable and sufficient argument has already been offered (not &amp;quot;just speculation&amp;quot;), not only by myself, but by Bryanc as well.  Again, a contrary example is all you need to prove our contention false.  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 04:08, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::She could just be stupid, ignorant, or misinformed.  This could also be a mistake by The Brothers Chaps. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 05:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Speaking of stupid, ignorant, or misinformed, how about those vegetarians? {snicker}.  Seriously though, I would have to agree in the end that it probably is just a mistake (and an understandable and forgivable one at that) by TBC; this would seem the most likely explanation for the perceived inconsistency. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 07:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Lynx, I don't need to prove she's not anything. The natural presumption is that people are like most other people unless there is evidence to the contrary. I maintain that calling her a vegetarian is speculative unless there is firm evidence. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I think what Lynx is trying to argue is that there is quite a lot of evidence.  Each piece of evidence alone may be interpreted as circumstantial, but the summation of it all lends great credence to the probability that Marzipan is indeed a vegetarian.  You are absolutely correct that there is no definitive proof.  She sure eats like one though.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Qermaq, I didn't say you needed to prove anything- you have it backwards.  I said that if you want to end all doubt and vindicate your position there is a simple way.  I didn't say &amp;quot;you need to ''prove''&amp;quot;, I said &amp;quot;what you ''need'' to prove.&amp;quot;  There's a real difference there.  I won't continue to rehash this topic with you, but I do want to say for the sake of others reading this that there ''is'' evidence that she is a vegetarian, the assumption is a reasonable one, not a speculative one, according to classical epistemology.  Instead of yielding to better reasoning, my friend Qermaq seems to be ignoring the firm evidence provided and misinterpreting what I have said.  I would that he follow my example from above (the BIAS discussion) and simply admit when he is beat.  I will say no more.  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 06:23, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::On the [[Chinese Food Toons Menu]] TBC imply ''very'' strongly that Marzipan is a vegetarian in the subtext to [[The Reddest Radish]].  Also, if this is being questioned than it follows that [[The Luau]], [[Marzipan]], and [[Old-Timey Marzipan]] all should be re-worded also.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Incidentally, the word vegan was [http://www.vegansociety.com/html/business/trademark/opportunities/standards.php coined] by The Vegan Society in the UK which still retains related trademarks.  A mascara company would not likely be granted permission to use the word as a brand name, even if the product was vegan.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You're confusing reality with the toon. I am not suggesting that &amp;quot;vegan&amp;quot; is indeed a brand name or even eligible to be one. I'm saying that in the H*R universe it could be intended as such. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I meant that as a sort of trivial interjection, but even so, why would they choose that particular brand name?{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Gelatin is sort of a gray area for some vegetarians, so are dairy products and eggs.  Certainly there are vegetarians who will not eat them, vegans definitely won't, but I do know several vegetarians who do eat such things.  I'm actually not against mentioning this fact in the article really, just wanted to mention that.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:12, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No, it isn't.  Just like meat, gelatin comes from the dead body of an animal.  Dairy products and eggs are clearly gray areas, but gelatin is *not*. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 05:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Further, this is ''Chilean Sea'' Marshmallow. Maybe it's a naturally-occurring plant life form, like the sea cucumber? Or maybe it's a soy-based marshmallow substitute? (What we really need is an Explanation about sea bass...) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::It ''is'' possible to make vegetarian/vegan marshmallows without using gelatin. Given that Marzipan's exact status as a non-meat-eater is fuzzy, I think it would be a stretch to draw any kind of conclusion from the fact that she eats a marshmallow (which hardly count as food anyway). &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:04, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: 1 - The [[Marzipan]] article clearly states that she is a vegetarian.&lt;br /&gt;
: 2 - Although the specific type of vegetarianism that Marzipan follows is not known, eating gelatin is against *all* of them.  The [[Wikipedia:Vegetarian|wikipedia article]] has a good discussion of the various types.  You will note that all of them decry the eating of meat (remains of dead animals.) &lt;br /&gt;
: Thus, this is pretty clearly a goof to me. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 05:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::re: 1 - Yes it does, but when it comes to citations we can't cite ourselves.&lt;br /&gt;
::re: 2 - I can't knowledgeably comment on this, suffice to say that I know more than one self-proclaimed vegetarians who will eat gelatin.  Perhaps that makes them not-really-vegetarians.&lt;br /&gt;
::Dot com has already pointed out that there are readily available recipes to make marshmallow's that are both vegetarian and vegan.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Correct.  A &amp;quot;vegetarian&amp;quot; who eats gelatin is no more a true vegetarian than one who eats chicken or beef.  I do concede that there are vegetarian marshmallow recipes, though. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 14:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I strongly agree with Bryanc in all three points. As a non-gelatin-eating vegetarian, I say this is not a goof. Also, if anybody feels any further need to discuss whether Marzipan is a veg(etari)an or not, then this talk page is ''not'' the place to do it. Please do this at [[Talk:Marzipan#Vegetarian or vegan?]]. Thanks.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pledge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it be relevant to include an explanation of what a 'pledge' is in the Explanations section?  There must be at least some people who would benefit from the knowledge (myself included).--[[User:Tally Solleni|Tally Solleni]] 16:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sure &amp;amp;mdash; I'll try to add a little bit, and feel free to edit it if you can improve it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How Was Your Coincidence? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It's probably not a direct reference, but I can't help but notice one of Marzipan's lines (&amp;quot;My almond-encrusted Chilean sea marshmallow was just delicious. How was your hot dog?&amp;quot;) is strikingly similar to Veronica Lodge's line from the cover of Archie #547, which I read in the Editor's Notebook. (&amp;quot;My lobster thermador was superb!  How was your hot dog?&amp;quot;) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 06:30, 28 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'd say that's reference material.  I felt like Marzipan's &amp;quot;how was your hot dog?&amp;quot; was something that I'd heard/seen before, but I'm not at all familar with Archie.  Maybe the gag has been used in other works?  (A quick web search doesn't turn up anything in particular; not even the Archie quote.)  --[[User:Rriegs|Rriegs]] 10:29, 28 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I just thought it was a coincidence because I didn't catch any other references to Archie. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:41, 28 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Bod&amp;quot; reference ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Homestar's line &amp;quot;That you--gulp--'want his bod'?&amp;quot; is pretty close to the line dropped by Strong Bad in [[lady...ing]], &amp;quot;Oh, Marzipan. Do you want a-my bod!&amp;quot;  Anyone think it's worth a mention in the article?  --[[User:Rriegs|Rriegs]] 10:15, 28 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reminiscent? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Homestar and Strong Bad singing as their ship sinks is reminiscent of how the orchestra on the RMS Titanic continued to play while she sank.&lt;br /&gt;
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Didn't a fun fact just get destroyed recently due to that word? Personally, I don't see any similarity at all between the two, but somehow I didn't feel right just outright removing it... anyone? -{{User:YK/sig}} 07:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bought a bod? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I keep hearing &amp;quot;gulp - bought his bod?&amp;quot; Has Marzipan paying TC to do this? [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 15:18, 29 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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== What about a SECRET Hot Date ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there a connection between the &amp;quot;secret hot date&amp;quot; Cardboard Marzipan invited the Cheat on and the &amp;quot;hot date&amp;quot; they actually went on?  Is the fact that there are fireworks in both of the cartoons relevant? {{unsigned|75.85.125.208|22:58, 23 April 2007}}&lt;br /&gt;
:Might even mention the end of [[do over]] in relation to this too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, there's definitely been a pattern here. also note the &amp;quot;who's making out with marzipan&amp;quot; line from the cheat's theme song. that was probably the first lead in, or whatever --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]&lt;br /&gt;
Also peculiar that Marzipan doesn't seem to mind The Cheat's small talk about two Ira's, after being annoyed by Homestar's two Sid's in [[date]]. [[User:61.149.38.114|61.149.38.114]] 13:12, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, Homestar was playing a stupid, boring game that she had no hope of winning. The Cheat was actually holding a conversation. -[[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
::The &amp;quot;Making out with Marzipan&amp;quot; thing was a reference to the [[Homestar Talker]] game. The original wining phrase was &amp;quot;Making out with Marzipan is totally awesome.&amp;quot; {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:04, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Irony ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it worth mentioning that Strong Bad proposes that they drown the Cheat and Marzipan, but in the end it is Homestar and Strong Bad who are drowned? {{unsigned|75.85.125.208|22:58, 23 April 2007}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's along the lines of explaining the joke, something not normally done around here unless it's rather obscure. Also, please sign your talk page posts with four tildes (&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;){{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Public Rage-o flyer ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The broken glasses could be a play off of the glasses Ira Glass wears.  (They look quite similar)  Anyone else think so?  -Cappy Red [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 08:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, I thought the same thing. Weird when you see radio people on TV. It's always like &amp;quot;I don't know what I would have expected him to look like, but it just ain't that.&amp;quot; {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes, the first rule of thumb for all radio personalities is to [[:Image:deadlypallor.png|look]] absolutely nothing like how they sound. =3 {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Oh yeah, forgot we'd already had a lesson on that. Glass actually comes ''close'' to what you'd (I'd) expect him to look like, but just not quite. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 09:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Truly, he looks just different enough so as to throw you off.  It's like he has his own personal [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley uncanny valley] ;¬) -Cappy Red [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 15:23, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 8-Bit resemblence ==&lt;br /&gt;
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i'm not suggesting anybody uses this, but does any one else notice any echoes of Black Mage from 8-bit theater in Strong Bad when he's discussing the drowning of Marzipan and the Cheat? especially the &amp;quot;Explain to me how drowning them wouldn't ruin their date&amp;quot; line. it's funny, but that's just me.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Strong Bad always sounds like that. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Heh, that is totally something BM would say. [[User:The makuta|The makuta]] 13:47, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mario ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I obviously thought of Mario when Strong Bad said &amp;quot;Itsa me, the chef-a&amp;quot;, but I don't know if it's really that clear. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 09:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Mario has a bad Italian accent too, yes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:One of Mario's catchphrases is &amp;quot;It's-a me! Mario!&amp;quot; I thought of Mario as well. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 10:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Stereotypical Italian, probably. I thought it was Mario as well, but an Italian seems more practical. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 10:25, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Shockingly, Mario ''is'' Italian. and we know TBC are nintendo guys, i'd expect them to have had mario in the front of their minds as a role model for a fake-italian accent --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]&lt;br /&gt;
::::I immediately thought of Mario. It brought me back to my N64 days. The startup screen...&amp;quot;Itsa me! Mario! *doo doo doo doo doo doo* Hello!&amp;quot; --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 22:03, 24 Apr 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Methinks it's a stereotypical Italian chef. Not Mario. It's POSSIBLE, but I doubt it. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Not possible. It's stereotyped Italian, just as Mario is. If it's like Mario, it's stereotypical Italian, and is no ref to Mario. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:15, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Mario is not the only Italian in the world.  He's not even the only Italian stereotype.  Have you forgotten [[Wikipedia:List_of_recurring_characters_from_The_Simpsons#Luigi_Risotto|Luigi]]?  The one on the Simpsons, not Mario's brother!  --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 03:55, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::My opinion: I think a reference to Mario. My username may play a part in this, though. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::I didn't think of Mario at all when I first watched this, and my initial reaction to the idea was that it is only a play on the stereotype.  But I did a few [http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;q=%22it%27sa+me%22&amp;amp;btnG=Google+Search google] [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;amp;safe=off&amp;amp;q=%22it%27s-a-me%22&amp;amp;btnG=Search searches] and an overwhelming majority of the results pertain to Mario, often the N64 incarnation of the game.  I'm still hesitant, but now I'm not as sure.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The reason I thought of Mario was because of the &amp;quot;Itsa me ***&amp;quot; format. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 04:10, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Speaking as an IP address, I probably don't have much clout, but I'd definitely say Mario reference.  Stereotypical italians don't say &amp;quot;Itsa Me!&amp;quot; Only Mario does. [[User:129.64.141.43|129.64.141.43]] 16:06, 25 April 2007 (UTC) (oh, and this image code thing is disgusting, I normally can get these things no problem, but this is just like paint splatters)&lt;br /&gt;
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:(129.64.141.43, I replied [[User talk:129.64.141.43|here]]) This one's a tough call, but I'm leaning toward it being a reference to Mario here. The discussion is so evenly split, I think that [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] would be helpful here &amp;amp;mdash; I'll get one started. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Okay, [[STUFF:Date Nite#Thank you, chef! But our reference is in another castle.|here it is]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I also thought of Mario right away, but that doesn't mean that that's what TBC were thinking of when they wrote the cartoon. --[[User:Lux Acerbus|Lux Acerbus]] 01:25, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Another Reference to Coach Z thinking he's a woman ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The curlers on Coach Z's head and the rolling pin he's holding seems to be another reference to Coach Z thinking he's a woman, the other being when he said he was a mom in an easter egg at the end of Sbemail #129 Garage Sale.&lt;br /&gt;
:I think it's unwise to assume that Coach is conscientiously pretending to be a woman. Can't TBC just stick him in the cartoon to make a final punchline with no strings attached? &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Right now the page suggests that Coach Z is a &amp;quot;mom&amp;quot; in this cartoon.  He is clearly displaying characteristics of a woman (certain attitude, curlers, rolling pin), but there is no indication that he is acting like a &amp;quot;mom&amp;quot; (a particular kind of woman). [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 17:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think he's acting like a wife. I mean, that's just such a classic image in television and movies. I don't know if he's doing it on purpose or if he just has a complex, though. Personally, I was thinking OTP. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
::::I think he's being portrayed as a mother. Mabye he's actually a girl. We have no way of knowing if he is or not. He may actually be Bubs' mother. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 19:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Oh my. That would be quite the interesting development...--[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 22:04, 24 Apr 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Believe it or not, there are some men who wear curlers (I'm involved in the dance world :P). Though I agree it's more than likely a joke that he's playing a mom. Nothin' serious. Coach Z has always been weird. [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:29, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::We have, after all, established that he has more than two problems. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Going down with the ship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is the fact that Homestar and Strong Bad are singing the national anthem as their 'ship' goes down a reference to anything? It seems familiar to me, but I don't know where from... {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I thought of [[Wikipedia:RMS Titanic|Titanic]] when I first saw it. The orchestra on the ship continued playing as the ship was sinking. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 11:27, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I thought of that Looney Toons with Nero and Yosemite Sam as a Roman centurion and the pillar slowly falling while Nero plays Taps on a violin. Maybe something like that inspired them. [[User:Elvis|Uhuh huh. Thankyaveramuch.]] 12:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think Elvis got it. This &amp;quot;going down with the ship&amp;quot; thing seems very cartoony. Looney Toony. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:45, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Okay bear with me a second. I've never actually seen the Hunt for Red October, so I'm getting this from my mom. In order to hijack the Red October and go to America, they took it out on the maiden voyage. The part of the crew that was in on the plot arranged a fake nuclear explosion and forced the rest of the crew off the sub. That part of the crew was standing on an American ship when the fake explosion occurred, and they sang the Russian national anthem while the Red October &amp;quot;sank&amp;quot;. I think that's the reference the Brothers Chaps were going for. -[[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
::Could be that too. You never know for sure what they are thinking. I say we shouldn't try to pinpoint this as a solid reference to anything in particular. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Except they don't sing the anthem as the ship goes down. The Russians stand on the deck of the rescuing American ship, silent and mournfully removing their caps, staring at the sea. They sing it much earlier in the film, when they first engage the [[Wikipedia:Magnetohydrodynamic drive|caterpillar drive]]. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::It's actually another sub that explodes. The Russian Anthem does play at the end of the movie IIRC. It's close, but I wouldn't call it a reference.{{User:NFITC1/sig}} 13:56, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::They didn't know it was another sub, of course. At the end, it's not the Russian anthem, but a reprise of the main theme of the movie. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:23, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I fail to see how this is cartoony. It's a common motif, not a reference to anything in particular.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could be a reference to most cartoons, which sing/plays [[Wikipedia:Taps|Taps]] as their ship sinks. - {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
Mind, I don't think it should be in the article, but for the record, I thought the same thing. &amp;quot;Hm, Red October reference, singing a national anthem...&amp;quot; &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rockets ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the inside references section it mentions the part in SBIIJC where the bang was all that was needed. Wouldn't the fathoom be necessary in this case, considering without it Homestar and Strong Bad would just blow up? [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 12:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yea, I noticed the same thing. From what I can tell, they want the fathoom so that they fire towards Marzipan and The Cheat. I'm changing it. [[User:The makuta|The makuta]] 13:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fundraising weeks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How many local NPR stations are having their drives this week?  I know it is in Jacksonville, FL.&lt;br /&gt;
:Why are you asking this? What relativity does it have to Homestar Runner? Why didn't you sign your post? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:22, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Because the Easter egg is about public radio fundraising drives, during the same time that many NPR stations are having fundraising drives. That's why. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I didn't read the easter egg. It just seemed really out of the blue. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 21:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I'd say the fact doesn't belong. There is no official schedule that I'm aware of for fund raising on public radio, so each week could be a fundraising week for some station. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Don't read it, watch it! {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:07, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Huh? What am I not supposed to read and supposed to watch? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:49, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::That was a reply to Jangles' &amp;quot;I didn't read the easter egg.&amp;quot;{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:50, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== FUN Facts.  FUN ==&lt;br /&gt;
How is this piece of trivia a Fun fact? &amp;quot;Marzipan strokes her right eye with mascara 18 times.&amp;quot; I'm pretty sure it isn't. [[User:63.229.175.33|63.229.175.33]] 14:40, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Good point. I've deleted it- maybe whoever put it there would mind explaining why it's of interest? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 15:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::oh, you know, just in case someone wanted to be able to say that they apply makeup just like marzipan does or something --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Squared Circle ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Differnet ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it just me, or did this toon seem... I dunno... different than the older ones somehow? Did TBC use a different engine to make it or something?--[[User:Homsar Lover|Homsar Lover]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Looks like Flash to me. Maybe they upgraded the program or something. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe you're not used to the style used (as in it's night, romance, fancy resteraunts, etc.).-{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Marzipan's house ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm pretty sure Homestar and Marzipan live together now. [[User:130.91.36.229|130.91.36.229]] 17:49, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;'''MATT:''' Dude, I don't want to hint at any cohabitation here, okay?&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:--[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Although they probably don't, alot of things hint at it, such as the &amp;quot;stay home running in place&amp;quot; (Homestar was jogging at Marzy's house) and the &amp;quot;Marzipan, I'm home!&amp;quot; from [[your funeral]]. But, of couse, the above quote dispells all. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::So, [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]] was what, three years ago? They sure do seem to live together now, though. [[User:76.99.53.18|76.99.53.18]] 22:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC) (Same guy, different IP address.)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That commentary was recorded last summer. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:57, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Strong Bad, Nice? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me, or is strong bad being a friend towards homestar? isn't that out of character?&lt;br /&gt;
:Strong Bad can be civil when he wants. Besides, they had a common goal. I admit, it was a little 'Bwuh?', though. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
::The common goal between Homestar and Strong Bad is what made this toon stand out. And quite nicely too. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I've seen this before in cartoons. [[Wikipedia:The Fairly Oddparents|Fairly Oddparents]], for one. Timmy and Remy were both mad at Cupid in one episode, so they truced (even though they are enemies) to &amp;quot;kill&amp;quot; him (or at least seriously injure him, that gorrilla looked an''gry'') --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Maybe to make it so you don't have to have watched that episode to know what it's about, I'll reference [[Wikipedia:The Jimmy Timmy Power Hour 2: When Nerds Collide|this episode]], in which Jimmy and Timmy team up to make it so the anti-faires (and later Professor Calamitous) don't take over the world. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A little gay...==&lt;br /&gt;
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Don't be mad at me or anything, but dosen't it seem the SB and TC are...(ugh). I mean, Homestar was mad at Marzi because she is going out with another man and she is his girlfriend, but SB was mad at TC for the same reason, making TC his...Boyfriend?!? -A little confused, {{User:HeyMama/sig}} 04:32 pm, Tuesday, April 24th.&lt;br /&gt;
:Strong Bad 1. Hates Marzipan and B. Is TC's best friend. Of course he's angry. It's Coach Z we should be worried about though :P {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:37, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, personally, I don't know why that would be worrying. On the other hand, this is really a discussion for the forum.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No.  Strong Bad hates Marzipan.  The gay relationship we should worry about is Strong Mad and The Cheat.{{unsigned|Tgcdse|15:50, 25 April 2007}}&lt;br /&gt;
::What Loafing said.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 22:53, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::This thread is veering out of talk page appropriateness but let me state that in no way would I buy for a second that TBC are ever going to present their characters in any relationship other than goofy, dysfunctional ones. Not that we need to &amp;quot;worry&amp;quot; about a gay relationship in the first place, but it's as close to a certainty as anything is in this world that TBC are not intending their characters to be gay. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:it might be worrisome that TBC might be introducing gay themes to HR.com.  Isn't that the entire point of HeyMama's post?  I might be able to ignore your politically correct notions that homosexuality is normal if you didn't feel the need to lecture people about it and then complain that the discussion is inappropriate.  If you truly thought it was inappropriate you wouldn't engage in it yourselves, but merely say &amp;quot;this is inappropriate.&amp;quot;  But that urge to add your viewpoint on homosexuality to the thread is just too strong to pass up, isn't it?  My guess is that TBC leave gay themes out of HR.com because it ''isn't'' normal and it offends a lot of people.  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 07:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::This is inappropriate. You have now ''both'' given in to the urge to state your personal viewpoints. This thread is not material to the content of the article, so, per our talk page policy, please stop using it for discussion. You or anyone else is certainly welcome to continue this subject, so long as it's not here. As it has been repeatedly suggested, our forum is one such venue where you can go to talk about it if you so desire. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Strong Sad's voice ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me, or does Strong Sad's voice sound suddenly different? Deeper or something. [[User:Ekul|Ekul]] 21:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Yes, Strong Sad's voice and character have been evolving a bit lately. Just this year, he's already been physicially violent toward Strong Bad (Rough Copy) and smiled willingly (Looking Old) before that. Nothing particularly unusual about it, though, as this sort of evolution happens with all of the characters from time to time. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 08:57, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Title Card ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is this the only toon, other than [[Summer Short Shorts]], that has a title card in it?--[[User:SDSpivey|SDSpivey]] 21:47, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Ummm...what do you mean by Title Card?? --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:56, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::A [[Wikipedia:Title card|title card]] is a separate image of the show's title. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:00, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] had a title card. Some of the older ones (like [[A Jorb well done]] and [[Powered by The Cheat]] cartoons) -{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
::Speaking of title cards, should someone add that at the end of the title sequence, the 'e' falls against the title frame?[[User:Sir Vimes|Sir Vimes]] 23:38, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Every Big Toon, even from 2005-now, has a title card.  (although for [[Strongest Man in the World]] they simply reused the cover of [[The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest]], which the toon is based on)  Also, every major Halloween toon, the [[Puppet Stuff]], and every [[Decemberween]] special except the email [[what i want]] have title cards. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:08, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Isn't the tilted 'e' a reference to a sign for a famous club or bar or restaurant or something (or maybe it was a painting)?  I swear I've seen something similar to it before.  Does anyone know what I'm taking about? [[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 05:43, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Dell? Enron? Sorry my mind reading abilities are on the fritz.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 06:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::No, it wasn't like a company (I don't think).  I think the format of the sign was similar, two words on top of one another, the last one or two letters being the same in both words, so they used a large letter for both.  I can picture it, but I can't name it for the life of me.  I dunno, maybe divine inspiration will hit me at some point to remember it.[[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 20:27, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Strong Bad Old-timey Strong Bad Reference ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it me or is that italian mustache SB was wearing look kinda like Old-Timey SB's mustache? {{User:Austio888888/sig}} 23:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:A lot of mustaches have appeared in Homestar Runner. See [[Mustaches]]. Also, Old-Timey SB's 'stache is a lot longer, methinks. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I thought the same thing - I wondered if it's worth mentioning that SB resembles his Old-Timey counterpart here. --{{User:NoMayonnaise/sig}} 15:35, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fireworks mirror ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think we should do a mirror where the fireworks goof appears (when they're still attached to the ship when they sink) like the &amp;quot;floating lime&amp;quot; mirror in [[Let us give TANKS!]]. I have the flash file for that version, so I think that would help. How would I upload it? --{{User:Darkangel/sig}} 03:48, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You wouldn't. Only images and audio can be uploaded. Tom runs the mirror as far as I know, so if he doesn't already have it, you'd have to get it to him. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:17, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Perhaps you could take a screen shot of the fireworks appearing on the sub? Just a suggestion --[[User:Murgatroid|Murgatroid]] 05:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Email it to the address at the bottom of [[User:Tom#Contact me|Tom]]'s user page. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:20, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== ... that fake mustache he always wears ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I acknowledge that the mustache appearance is a good inside reference, but isn't this more directly an inside reference to Fabrosi / Homestar's fake mustaches from Lady-ing given the fact that the Cheat's mustache is a fake? [[User:71.96.169.82|71.96.169.82]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Since when did Homestar have a fake mustache in lady...ing? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:41, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Since the Easter egg. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:45, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Oh. Now see, I've never watched that Easter Egg. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::For shame, Martyo, for shame. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Four, then? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Who is Marzipan referring to when remarks that Homestar has had to fight off four foxes' mothers to stay loyal to her? The first thing that popped in my head was TGS, but that doesn't really make sense. Could it be the failed female characters they're referring to? Champeen and them? [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:31, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh, nevahmind, it's prolly just that's as high as he can count. LOL [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:32, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::('''edit conflict''')She's not referring to anyone in particular. Homestar says &amp;quot;more than I can count,&amp;quot; so she's making fun of him by saying he can't even count to 4. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 15:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Character Development ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Woah. This is the first time I've seen real character development, done by characters, with actual development, since, like...ever. Does anyone else notice that? And feel unnverved? [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 15:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:This is probably the most salient example, but I think it would be difficult to hold that it is the first time.  There are snippets of character development here and there, if we allow that the entire world of www.homestarrunner.com is one holistic narrative.  For example, we know that the relationship between Strong Sad and Strong Bad wasn't always as it is now ([[The Secrets That I Keep]]).  We also see a desperate attempt by the KOT to become a cool character (seeking help from Marzipan on her answering machine and creating KOTVOQPCS, which by it's name implies that the KOT is &amp;quot;popular&amp;quot;).  Numerous characters have had epiphanies of self-awareness (SS &amp;quot;I'm a waste of space&amp;quot;, CZ &amp;quot;I've hit rack bartom!&amp;quot;).  And throughout the entire narrative we see fluctuating relational dynamics between all of the characters; their attitudes and behavior towards one another does not remain static (at times SB hates HR, and at other times they are found playing Cheat Commandos or drinking 'old ones together).  Because HR.com is episodic in nature it is difficult to see much character development in any given instance, but as a broader story arc it should be easier to see development. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 02:32, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Don't forget Strong Sad's development in Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon. That was a big one. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jail reference? ==&lt;br /&gt;
Doesn't the use of fireworks used as TNT count as a reference to the [[Strong Bad is in Jail]] 'toon? -{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
:Yep. Already mentioned. Same brand of rockets and everything. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== BIAS ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think the current interpretation of the phrase &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; found on the tape in the easter egg might be the wrong one.&lt;br /&gt;
Public radio is commonly perceived as having a left leaning ''political bias''.  The addition of the word &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; might refer to the perception that this political bias is normal for public radio.&lt;br /&gt;
Further, &amp;quot;Normal bias&amp;quot; is in the label location, where the person who records something onto the tape indicates what the recording is or is about (such as &amp;quot;David Bowie&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;2007 mix tape&amp;quot;).  If &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; was actually referring to the technical design of the tape we might expect to find it stamped on the tape in a different location and in a different manner.  We don't find other technical aspects of a tape or CD-R (such as &amp;quot;120 minutes&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;700 Mb&amp;quot;) in the label area of the item.  Any thoughts?  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 01:20, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm a little confused... just answering the last question you asked there, it's a cartoon, and TBC don't have time to draw in every little detail, especially on a tape or CD. Or Laserdisc. The &amp;quot;Normal Bias&amp;quot; label is there for satirical humor. I mean, what's funnier, &amp;quot;Normal Bias&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;TapeMakers 90 minutes&amp;quot;? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 01:27, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I just looked at what is posted about &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; and I can see why you are confused.  Let me clarify my previous post.  If you follow the link on the word &amp;quot;bias&amp;quot; it will take you to a wikipedia article about tape bias, a technical development in sound reproduction for cassette tapes.  By linking to this article, it is suggested that the use of the term &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; in the cartoon refers to Tape Bias.  My previous post was meant to argue that Tape Bias is the wrong way to interpret &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; and that there is a better, more likely interpretation.  My error was in thinking that the current interpretation is more obvious than it really is, thus I am at fault for your confusion.  With this clarification in mind, I hope that my previous post is more clear to you.  I propose that what is currently posted about &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; be removed from the Trivia section and in it's place we use my interpretation to explain &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; in the Real World References section.  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 02:30, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I think it's referring to tape bias &amp;amp;mdash; see [[geddup noise]] and [[Sketchbook 2006#SK-2006-08-31]] for other places that this comes up in the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] body of work. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Good point.  I am still puzzled why tech specs would be found in the user label portion of the tape, but the fact that the geddup noise radio station is a ribald morning show and ''not'' public radio demands the conclusion you have reached. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 02:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I think they simply didn't put as much thought as you into what they put on the tape to make it look like a tape. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:56, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Also, bias is something that is applied to the tape when it is recorded, it's not inherent to the specific tape itself (though, different bias is better for different kinds of tape).  When I used to work with tapes extensively I would always note on the label what bias I used to record the tape (in fact, there was typically a checkbox devoted to it on the user label).{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Incidentally, I'm the one who originally added the link to [[Wikipedia:Tape bias|tape bias]], which I put there for readers who might not know there was a double meaning to the word. But I've always thought that the pun was intended. That is, I think they used the technical term as a play on the political sense of the words. I figured linking to anything besides tape bias would be unnecessarily explaining the joke. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:58, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I can't say I agree; Homestar Runner stuff rarely if ever ventures into sociopolitical commentary.  It goes against the idea of the body of work.  Also, considering there was nothing political in the broadcast, it seems like a severe stretch. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 23:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Marzipan eats Marshmallows?! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A primary ingredient in Marshmallows is gelatin, which made from boiled animal bones. I don't think Marzipan would like this very much (since she is a vegetarian). Thoughts? I modified the article to show this, but it was reverted and claimed to be &amp;quot;nit-picking.&amp;quot;  Hardly. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 02:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Is Marzipan a vegetarian? Can you cite where it's disclosed? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:57, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, it's mentioned without citation a couple times on this wiki... but the only thing close to an official statement that I see comes from [[All_Things_Considered_Interview_-_8_May_2005|a 2005 interview on NPR]], in which the interviewer refers to Marzipan as &amp;quot;Homestar's Vegetarian girlfriend&amp;quot; and his statement is not refuted by TBC.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:05, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It's pretty safe to assume that Marzipan is a vegetarian or vegan of some kind.  Her mascara, for instance.  The tofu BBQ, for another.  [[Homestar Jr.]], for a third.  You may not have a verbal confession from her, but all signs point to that assumption.  I would suggest that based on the evidence we have it is harder to prove that she ''isn't'' a vegetarian than that she ''is''. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 03:28, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::However - Vegan Mascara might be a brand name. I like tofu almost as much as I like a steak. And reporters do get facts wrong sometimes, even NPR. I think it's just speculation to decide she's a vegan/strict vegetarian/weak vegetarian without explicit establishment. If the fact is included, it needs to be worded so as not to say she &amp;quot;is&amp;quot; a vegetarian, but that she might be; and also without weaseling the fact to the point of it no longer being notable. A challenge. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::All you need to prove that she isn't a vegetarian is an instance where she clearly violates general vegetarian protocol (marshmallows, we should agree, is a gray area).  In the logic tradition and in real world common sense 'no instance of violating vegetarian protocol' + 'numerous instances of demonstrating vegetarian behavior' = 'the fair assumption that Marzipan is a vegetarian.'  Put simply, I think your standard of proof is unnecessarily high.  My standard is the one practiced in the disciplines of Philosophy, History, English, and Behavioral Psychology, to name a few, and ought to be sufficient for a silly cartoon web site.  Your challenge does not need to be answered because a reasonable and sufficient argument has already been offered (not &amp;quot;just speculation&amp;quot;), not only by myself, but by Bryanc as well.  Again, a contrary example is all you need to prove our contention false.  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 04:08, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::She could just be stupid, ignorant, or misinformed.  This could also be a mistake by The Brothers Chaps. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 05:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Speaking of stupid, ignorant, or misinformed, how about those vegetarians? {snicker}.  Seriously though, I would have to agree in the end that it probably is just a mistake (and an understandable and forgivable one at that) by TBC; this would seem the most likely explanation for the perceived inconsistency. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 07:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Lynx, I don't need to prove she's not anything. The natural presumption is that people are like most other people unless there is evidence to the contrary. I maintain that calling her a vegetarian is speculative unless there is firm evidence. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I think what Lynx is trying to argue is that there is quite a lot of evidence.  Each piece of evidence alone may be interpreted as circumstantial, but the summation of it all lends great credence to the probability that Marzipan is indeed a vegetarian.  You are absolutely correct that there is no definitive proof.  She sure eats like one though.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Qermaq, I didn't say you needed to prove anything- you have it backwards.  I said that if you want to end all doubt and vindicate your position there is a simple way.  I didn't say &amp;quot;you need to ''prove''&amp;quot;, I said &amp;quot;what you ''need'' to prove.&amp;quot;  There's a real difference there.  I won't continue to rehash this topic with you, but I do want to say for the sake of others reading this that there ''is'' evidence that she is a vegetarian, the assumption is a reasonable one, not a speculative one, according to classical epistemology.  Instead of yielding to better reasoning, my friend Qermaq seems to be ignoring the firm evidence provided and misinterpreting what I have said.  I would that he follow my example from above (the BIAS discussion) and simply admit when he is beat.  I will say no more.  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 06:23, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::On the [[Chinese Food Toons Menu]] TBC imply ''very'' strongly that Marzipan is a vegetarian in the subtext to [[The Reddest Radish]].  Also, if this is being questioned than it follows that [[The Luau]], [[Marzipan]], and [[Old-Timey Marzipan]] all should be re-worded also.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Incidentally, the word vegan was [http://www.vegansociety.com/html/business/trademark/opportunities/standards.php coined] by The Vegan Society in the UK which still retains related trademarks.  A mascara company would not likely be granted permission to use the word as a brand name, even if the product was vegan.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You're confusing reality with the toon. I am not suggesting that &amp;quot;vegan&amp;quot; is indeed a brand name or even eligible to be one. I'm saying that in the H*R universe it could be intended as such. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I meant that as a sort of trivial interjection, but even so, why would they choose that particular brand name?{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Gelatin is sort of a gray area for some vegetarians, so are dairy products and eggs.  Certainly there are vegetarians who will not eat them, vegans definitely won't, but I do know several vegetarians who do eat such things.  I'm actually not against mentioning this fact in the article really, just wanted to mention that.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:12, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No, it isn't.  Just like meat, gelatin comes from the dead body of an animal.  Dairy products and eggs are clearly gray areas, but gelatin is *not*. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 05:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Further, this is ''Chilean Sea'' Marshmallow. Maybe it's a naturally-occurring plant life form, like the sea cucumber? Or maybe it's a soy-based marshmallow substitute? (What we really need is an Explanation about sea bass...) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::It ''is'' possible to make vegetarian/vegan marshmallows without using gelatin. Given that Marzipan's exact status as a non-meat-eater is fuzzy, I think it would be a stretch to draw any kind of conclusion from the fact that she eats a marshmallow (which hardly count as food anyway). &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:04, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Thus, this is pretty clearly a goof to me. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 05:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::re: 1 - Yes it does, but when it comes to citations we can't cite ourselves.&lt;br /&gt;
::re: 2 - I can't knowledgeably comment on this, suffice to say that I know more than one self-proclaimed vegetarians who will eat gelatin.  Perhaps that makes them not-really-vegetarians.&lt;br /&gt;
::Dot com has already pointed out that there are readily available recipes to make marshmallow's that are both vegetarian and vegan.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Correct.  A &amp;quot;vegetarian&amp;quot; who eats gelatin is no more a true vegetarian than one who eats chicken or beef.  I do concede that there are vegetarian marshmallow recipes, though. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 14:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I strongly agree with Bryanc in all three points. As a non-gelatin-eating vegetarian, I say this is not a goof. Also, if anybody feels any further need to discuss whether Marzipan is a veg(etari)an or not, then this talk page is ''not'' the place to do it. Please do this at [[Talk:Marzipan#Vegetarian or vegan?]]. Thanks.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pledge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it be relevant to include an explanation of what a 'pledge' is in the Explanations section?  There must be at least some people who would benefit from the knowledge (myself included).--[[User:Tally Solleni|Tally Solleni]] 16:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sure &amp;amp;mdash; I'll try to add a little bit, and feel free to edit it if you can improve it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How Was Your Coincidence? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It's probably not a direct reference, but I can't help but notice one of Marzipan's lines (&amp;quot;My almond-encrusted Chilean sea marshmallow was just delicious. How was your hot dog?&amp;quot;) is strikingly similar to Veronica Lodge's line from the cover of Archie #547, which I read in the Editor's Notebook. (&amp;quot;My lobster thermador was superb!  How was your hot dog?&amp;quot;) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 06:30, 28 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'd say that's reference material.  I felt like Marzipan's &amp;quot;how was your hot dog?&amp;quot; was something that I'd heard/seen before, but I'm not at all familar with Archie.  Maybe the gag has been used in other works?  (A quick web search doesn't turn up anything in particular; not even the Archie quote.)  --[[User:Rriegs|Rriegs]] 10:29, 28 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I just thought it was a coincidence because I didn't catch any other references to Archie. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:41, 28 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Bod&amp;quot; reference ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Homestar's line &amp;quot;That you--gulp--'want his bod'?&amp;quot; is pretty close to the line dropped by Strong Bad in [[lady...ing]], &amp;quot;Oh, Marzipan. Do you want a-my bod!&amp;quot;  Anyone think it's worth a mention in the article?  --[[User:Rriegs|Rriegs]] 10:15, 28 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reminiscent? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Didn't a fun fact just get destroyed recently due to that word? Personally, I don't see any similarity at all between the two, but somehow I didn't feel right just outright removing it... anyone? -{{User:YK/sig}} 07:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bought a bod? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I keep hearing &amp;quot;gulp - bought his bod?&amp;quot; Has Marzipan paying TC to do this? {{The Magic Pixel is AWESHOME|The Magic Pixel|15:04, 29 2007 (UTC)}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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== What about a SECRET Hot Date ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there a connection between the &amp;quot;secret hot date&amp;quot; Cardboard Marzipan invited the Cheat on and the &amp;quot;hot date&amp;quot; they actually went on?  Is the fact that there are fireworks in both of the cartoons relevant? {{unsigned|75.85.125.208|22:58, 23 April 2007}}&lt;br /&gt;
:Might even mention the end of [[do over]] in relation to this too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, there's definitely been a pattern here. also note the &amp;quot;who's making out with marzipan&amp;quot; line from the cheat's theme song. that was probably the first lead in, or whatever --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]&lt;br /&gt;
Also peculiar that Marzipan doesn't seem to mind The Cheat's small talk about two Ira's, after being annoyed by Homestar's two Sid's in [[date]]. [[User:61.149.38.114|61.149.38.114]] 13:12, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, Homestar was playing a stupid, boring game that she had no hope of winning. The Cheat was actually holding a conversation. -[[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
::The &amp;quot;Making out with Marzipan&amp;quot; thing was a reference to the [[Homestar Talker]] game. The original wining phrase was &amp;quot;Making out with Marzipan is totally awesome.&amp;quot; {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:04, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Irony ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it worth mentioning that Strong Bad proposes that they drown the Cheat and Marzipan, but in the end it is Homestar and Strong Bad who are drowned? {{unsigned|75.85.125.208|22:58, 23 April 2007}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's along the lines of explaining the joke, something not normally done around here unless it's rather obscure. Also, please sign your talk page posts with four tildes (&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;){{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Public Rage-o flyer ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The broken glasses could be a play off of the glasses Ira Glass wears.  (They look quite similar)  Anyone else think so?  -Cappy Red [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 08:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, I thought the same thing. Weird when you see radio people on TV. It's always like &amp;quot;I don't know what I would have expected him to look like, but it just ain't that.&amp;quot; {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes, the first rule of thumb for all radio personalities is to [[:Image:deadlypallor.png|look]] absolutely nothing like how they sound. =3 {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Oh yeah, forgot we'd already had a lesson on that. Glass actually comes ''close'' to what you'd (I'd) expect him to look like, but just not quite. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 09:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Truly, he looks just different enough so as to throw you off.  It's like he has his own personal [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley uncanny valley] ;¬) -Cappy Red [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 15:23, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 8-Bit resemblence ==&lt;br /&gt;
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i'm not suggesting anybody uses this, but does any one else notice any echoes of Black Mage from 8-bit theater in Strong Bad when he's discussing the drowning of Marzipan and the Cheat? especially the &amp;quot;Explain to me how drowning them wouldn't ruin their date&amp;quot; line. it's funny, but that's just me.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Strong Bad always sounds like that. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Heh, that is totally something BM would say. [[User:The makuta|The makuta]] 13:47, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mario ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I obviously thought of Mario when Strong Bad said &amp;quot;Itsa me, the chef-a&amp;quot;, but I don't know if it's really that clear. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 09:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Mario has a bad Italian accent too, yes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:One of Mario's catchphrases is &amp;quot;It's-a me! Mario!&amp;quot; I thought of Mario as well. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 10:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Stereotypical Italian, probably. I thought it was Mario as well, but an Italian seems more practical. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 10:25, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Shockingly, Mario ''is'' Italian. and we know TBC are nintendo guys, i'd expect them to have had mario in the front of their minds as a role model for a fake-italian accent --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]&lt;br /&gt;
::::I immediately thought of Mario. It brought me back to my N64 days. The startup screen...&amp;quot;Itsa me! Mario! *doo doo doo doo doo doo* Hello!&amp;quot; --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 22:03, 24 Apr 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Methinks it's a stereotypical Italian chef. Not Mario. It's POSSIBLE, but I doubt it. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Not possible. It's stereotyped Italian, just as Mario is. If it's like Mario, it's stereotypical Italian, and is no ref to Mario. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:15, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Mario is not the only Italian in the world.  He's not even the only Italian stereotype.  Have you forgotten [[Wikipedia:List_of_recurring_characters_from_The_Simpsons#Luigi_Risotto|Luigi]]?  The one on the Simpsons, not Mario's brother!  --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 03:55, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::My opinion: I think a reference to Mario. My username may play a part in this, though. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::I didn't think of Mario at all when I first watched this, and my initial reaction to the idea was that it is only a play on the stereotype.  But I did a few [http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;q=%22it%27sa+me%22&amp;amp;btnG=Google+Search google] [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;amp;safe=off&amp;amp;q=%22it%27s-a-me%22&amp;amp;btnG=Search searches] and an overwhelming majority of the results pertain to Mario, often the N64 incarnation of the game.  I'm still hesitant, but now I'm not as sure.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The reason I thought of Mario was because of the &amp;quot;Itsa me ***&amp;quot; format. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 04:10, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Speaking as an IP address, I probably don't have much clout, but I'd definitely say Mario reference.  Stereotypical italians don't say &amp;quot;Itsa Me!&amp;quot; Only Mario does. [[User:129.64.141.43|129.64.141.43]] 16:06, 25 April 2007 (UTC) (oh, and this image code thing is disgusting, I normally can get these things no problem, but this is just like paint splatters)&lt;br /&gt;
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:(129.64.141.43, I replied [[User talk:129.64.141.43|here]]) This one's a tough call, but I'm leaning toward it being a reference to Mario here. The discussion is so evenly split, I think that [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] would be helpful here &amp;amp;mdash; I'll get one started. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Okay, [[STUFF:Date Nite#Thank you, chef! But our reference is in another castle.|here it is]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I also thought of Mario right away, but that doesn't mean that that's what TBC were thinking of when they wrote the cartoon. --[[User:Lux Acerbus|Lux Acerbus]] 01:25, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Another Reference to Coach Z thinking he's a woman ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The curlers on Coach Z's head and the rolling pin he's holding seems to be another reference to Coach Z thinking he's a woman, the other being when he said he was a mom in an easter egg at the end of Sbemail #129 Garage Sale.&lt;br /&gt;
:I think it's unwise to assume that Coach is conscientiously pretending to be a woman. Can't TBC just stick him in the cartoon to make a final punchline with no strings attached? &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Right now the page suggests that Coach Z is a &amp;quot;mom&amp;quot; in this cartoon.  He is clearly displaying characteristics of a woman (certain attitude, curlers, rolling pin), but there is no indication that he is acting like a &amp;quot;mom&amp;quot; (a particular kind of woman). [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 17:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think he's acting like a wife. I mean, that's just such a classic image in television and movies. I don't know if he's doing it on purpose or if he just has a complex, though. Personally, I was thinking OTP. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
::::I think he's being portrayed as a mother. Mabye he's actually a girl. We have no way of knowing if he is or not. He may actually be Bubs' mother. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 19:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Oh my. That would be quite the interesting development...--[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 22:04, 24 Apr 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Believe it or not, there are some men who wear curlers (I'm involved in the dance world :P). Though I agree it's more than likely a joke that he's playing a mom. Nothin' serious. Coach Z has always been weird. [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:29, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::We have, after all, established that he has more than two problems. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is the fact that Homestar and Strong Bad are singing the national anthem as their 'ship' goes down a reference to anything? It seems familiar to me, but I don't know where from... {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I thought of [[Wikipedia:RMS Titanic|Titanic]] when I first saw it. The orchestra on the ship continued playing as the ship was sinking. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 11:27, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I thought of that Looney Toons with Nero and Yosemite Sam as a Roman centurion and the pillar slowly falling while Nero plays Taps on a violin. Maybe something like that inspired them. [[User:Elvis|Uhuh huh. Thankyaveramuch.]] 12:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think Elvis got it. This &amp;quot;going down with the ship&amp;quot; thing seems very cartoony. Looney Toony. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:45, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Okay bear with me a second. I've never actually seen the Hunt for Red October, so I'm getting this from my mom. In order to hijack the Red October and go to America, they took it out on the maiden voyage. The part of the crew that was in on the plot arranged a fake nuclear explosion and forced the rest of the crew off the sub. That part of the crew was standing on an American ship when the fake explosion occurred, and they sang the Russian national anthem while the Red October &amp;quot;sank&amp;quot;. I think that's the reference the Brothers Chaps were going for. -[[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
::Could be that too. You never know for sure what they are thinking. I say we shouldn't try to pinpoint this as a solid reference to anything in particular. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Except they don't sing the anthem as the ship goes down. The Russians stand on the deck of the rescuing American ship, silent and mournfully removing their caps, staring at the sea. They sing it much earlier in the film, when they first engage the [[Wikipedia:Magnetohydrodynamic drive|caterpillar drive]]. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::It's actually another sub that explodes. The Russian Anthem does play at the end of the movie IIRC. It's close, but I wouldn't call it a reference.{{User:NFITC1/sig}} 13:56, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::They didn't know it was another sub, of course. At the end, it's not the Russian anthem, but a reprise of the main theme of the movie. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:23, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I fail to see how this is cartoony. It's a common motif, not a reference to anything in particular.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could be a reference to most cartoons, which sing/plays [[Wikipedia:Taps|Taps]] as their ship sinks. - {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
Mind, I don't think it should be in the article, but for the record, I thought the same thing. &amp;quot;Hm, Red October reference, singing a national anthem...&amp;quot; &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rockets ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the inside references section it mentions the part in SBIIJC where the bang was all that was needed. Wouldn't the fathoom be necessary in this case, considering without it Homestar and Strong Bad would just blow up? [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 12:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yea, I noticed the same thing. From what I can tell, they want the fathoom so that they fire towards Marzipan and The Cheat. I'm changing it. [[User:The makuta|The makuta]] 13:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fundraising weeks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How many local NPR stations are having their drives this week?  I know it is in Jacksonville, FL.&lt;br /&gt;
:Why are you asking this? What relativity does it have to Homestar Runner? Why didn't you sign your post? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:22, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Because the Easter egg is about public radio fundraising drives, during the same time that many NPR stations are having fundraising drives. That's why. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I didn't read the easter egg. It just seemed really out of the blue. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 21:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I'd say the fact doesn't belong. There is no official schedule that I'm aware of for fund raising on public radio, so each week could be a fundraising week for some station. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Don't read it, watch it! {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:07, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Huh? What am I not supposed to read and supposed to watch? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:49, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::That was a reply to Jangles' &amp;quot;I didn't read the easter egg.&amp;quot;{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:50, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== FUN Facts.  FUN ==&lt;br /&gt;
How is this piece of trivia a Fun fact? &amp;quot;Marzipan strokes her right eye with mascara 18 times.&amp;quot; I'm pretty sure it isn't. [[User:63.229.175.33|63.229.175.33]] 14:40, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Good point. I've deleted it- maybe whoever put it there would mind explaining why it's of interest? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 15:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::oh, you know, just in case someone wanted to be able to say that they apply makeup just like marzipan does or something --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Squared Circle ==&lt;br /&gt;
The Squared Circle is a term used in Professional Wrestling, because unlike the actual sport, where they wrestle within a circle, the entertainment version takes place in a square ring, hence, square instead of circle.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Differnet ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it just me, or did this toon seem... I dunno... different than the older ones somehow? Did TBC use a different engine to make it or something?--[[User:Homsar Lover|Homsar Lover]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Looks like Flash to me. Maybe they upgraded the program or something. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe you're not used to the style used (as in it's night, romance, fancy resteraunts, etc.).-{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Marzipan's house ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm pretty sure Homestar and Marzipan live together now. [[User:130.91.36.229|130.91.36.229]] 17:49, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:DVD Commentary on [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]:&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;'''MATT:''' Dude, I don't want to hint at any cohabitation here, okay?&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:--[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Although they probably don't, alot of things hint at it, such as the &amp;quot;stay home running in place&amp;quot; (Homestar was jogging at Marzy's house) and the &amp;quot;Marzipan, I'm home!&amp;quot; from [[your funeral]]. But, of couse, the above quote dispells all. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::So, [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]] was what, three years ago? They sure do seem to live together now, though. [[User:76.99.53.18|76.99.53.18]] 22:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC) (Same guy, different IP address.)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That commentary was recorded last summer. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:57, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Strong Bad, Nice? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me, or is strong bad being a friend towards homestar? isn't that out of character?&lt;br /&gt;
:Strong Bad can be civil when he wants. Besides, they had a common goal. I admit, it was a little 'Bwuh?', though. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
::The common goal between Homestar and Strong Bad is what made this toon stand out. And quite nicely too. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I've seen this before in cartoons. [[Wikipedia:The Fairly Oddparents|Fairly Oddparents]], for one. Timmy and Remy were both mad at Cupid in one episode, so they truced (even though they are enemies) to &amp;quot;kill&amp;quot; him (or at least seriously injure him, that gorrilla looked an''gry'') --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Maybe to make it so you don't have to have watched that episode to know what it's about, I'll reference [[Wikipedia:The Jimmy Timmy Power Hour 2: When Nerds Collide|this episode]], in which Jimmy and Timmy team up to make it so the anti-faires (and later Professor Calamitous) don't take over the world. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A little gay...==&lt;br /&gt;
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Don't be mad at me or anything, but dosen't it seem the SB and TC are...(ugh). I mean, Homestar was mad at Marzi because she is going out with another man and she is his girlfriend, but SB was mad at TC for the same reason, making TC his...Boyfriend?!? -A little confused, {{User:HeyMama/sig}} 04:32 pm, Tuesday, April 24th.&lt;br /&gt;
:Strong Bad 1. Hates Marzipan and B. Is TC's best friend. Of course he's angry. It's Coach Z we should be worried about though :P {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:37, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, personally, I don't know why that would be worrying. On the other hand, this is really a discussion for the forum.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No.  Strong Bad hates Marzipan.  The gay relationship we should worry about is Strong Mad and The Cheat.{{unsigned|Tgcdse|15:50, 25 April 2007}}&lt;br /&gt;
::What Loafing said.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 22:53, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::This thread is veering out of talk page appropriateness but let me state that in no way would I buy for a second that TBC are ever going to present their characters in any relationship other than goofy, dysfunctional ones. Not that we need to &amp;quot;worry&amp;quot; about a gay relationship in the first place, but it's as close to a certainty as anything is in this world that TBC are not intending their characters to be gay. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:it might be worrisome that TBC might be introducing gay themes to HR.com.  Isn't that the entire point of HeyMama's post?  I might be able to ignore your politically correct notions that homosexuality is normal if you didn't feel the need to lecture people about it and then complain that the discussion is inappropriate.  If you truly thought it was inappropriate you wouldn't engage in it yourselves, but merely say &amp;quot;this is inappropriate.&amp;quot;  But that urge to add your viewpoint on homosexuality to the thread is just too strong to pass up, isn't it?  My guess is that TBC leave gay themes out of HR.com because it ''isn't'' normal and it offends a lot of people.  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 07:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::This is inappropriate. You have now ''both'' given in to the urge to state your personal viewpoints. This thread is not material to the content of the article, so, per our talk page policy, please stop using it for discussion. You or anyone else is certainly welcome to continue this subject, so long as it's not here. As it has been repeatedly suggested, our forum is one such venue where you can go to talk about it if you so desire. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Strong Sad's voice ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me, or does Strong Sad's voice sound suddenly different? Deeper or something. [[User:Ekul|Ekul]] 21:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Yes, Strong Sad's voice and character have been evolving a bit lately. Just this year, he's already been physicially violent toward Strong Bad (Rough Copy) and smiled willingly (Looking Old) before that. Nothing particularly unusual about it, though, as this sort of evolution happens with all of the characters from time to time. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 08:57, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Title Card ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is this the only toon, other than [[Summer Short Shorts]], that has a title card in it?--[[User:SDSpivey|SDSpivey]] 21:47, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Ummm...what do you mean by Title Card?? --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:56, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::A [[Wikipedia:Title card|title card]] is a separate image of the show's title. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:00, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] had a title card. Some of the older ones (like [[A Jorb well done]] and [[Powered by The Cheat]] cartoons) -{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
::Speaking of title cards, should someone add that at the end of the title sequence, the 'e' falls against the title frame?[[User:Sir Vimes|Sir Vimes]] 23:38, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Every Big Toon, even from 2005-now, has a title card.  (although for [[Strongest Man in the World]] they simply reused the cover of [[The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest]], which the toon is based on)  Also, every major Halloween toon, the [[Puppet Stuff]], and every [[Decemberween]] special except the email [[what i want]] have title cards. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:08, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Isn't the tilted 'e' a reference to a sign for a famous club or bar or restaurant or something (or maybe it was a painting)?  I swear I've seen something similar to it before.  Does anyone know what I'm taking about? [[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 05:43, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Dell? Enron? Sorry my mind reading abilities are on the fritz.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 06:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::No, it wasn't like a company (I don't think).  I think the format of the sign was similar, two words on top of one another, the last one or two letters being the same in both words, so they used a large letter for both.  I can picture it, but I can't name it for the life of me.  I dunno, maybe divine inspiration will hit me at some point to remember it.[[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 20:27, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Strong Bad Old-timey Strong Bad Reference ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it me or is that italian mustache SB was wearing look kinda like Old-Timey SB's mustache? {{User:Austio888888/sig}} 23:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:A lot of mustaches have appeared in Homestar Runner. See [[Mustaches]]. Also, Old-Timey SB's 'stache is a lot longer, methinks. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I thought the same thing - I wondered if it's worth mentioning that SB resembles his Old-Timey counterpart here. --{{User:NoMayonnaise/sig}} 15:35, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fireworks mirror ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think we should do a mirror where the fireworks goof appears (when they're still attached to the ship when they sink) like the &amp;quot;floating lime&amp;quot; mirror in [[Let us give TANKS!]]. I have the flash file for that version, so I think that would help. How would I upload it? --{{User:Darkangel/sig}} 03:48, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You wouldn't. Only images and audio can be uploaded. Tom runs the mirror as far as I know, so if he doesn't already have it, you'd have to get it to him. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:17, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Perhaps you could take a screen shot of the fireworks appearing on the sub? Just a suggestion --[[User:Murgatroid|Murgatroid]] 05:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Email it to the address at the bottom of [[User:Tom#Contact me|Tom]]'s user page. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:20, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== ... that fake mustache he always wears ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I acknowledge that the mustache appearance is a good inside reference, but isn't this more directly an inside reference to Fabrosi / Homestar's fake mustaches from Lady-ing given the fact that the Cheat's mustache is a fake? [[User:71.96.169.82|71.96.169.82]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Since when did Homestar have a fake mustache in lady...ing? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:41, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Since the Easter egg. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:45, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Oh. Now see, I've never watched that Easter Egg. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::For shame, Martyo, for shame. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Four, then? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Who is Marzipan referring to when remarks that Homestar has had to fight off four foxes' mothers to stay loyal to her? The first thing that popped in my head was TGS, but that doesn't really make sense. Could it be the failed female characters they're referring to? Champeen and them? [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:31, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh, nevahmind, it's prolly just that's as high as he can count. LOL [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:32, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::('''edit conflict''')She's not referring to anyone in particular. Homestar says &amp;quot;more than I can count,&amp;quot; so she's making fun of him by saying he can't even count to 4. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 15:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Character Development ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Woah. This is the first time I've seen real character development, done by characters, with actual development, since, like...ever. Does anyone else notice that? And feel unnverved? [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 15:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:This is probably the most salient example, but I think it would be difficult to hold that it is the first time.  There are snippets of character development here and there, if we allow that the entire world of www.homestarrunner.com is one holistic narrative.  For example, we know that the relationship between Strong Sad and Strong Bad wasn't always as it is now ([[The Secrets That I Keep]]).  We also see a desperate attempt by the KOT to become a cool character (seeking help from Marzipan on her answering machine and creating KOTVOQPCS, which by it's name implies that the KOT is &amp;quot;popular&amp;quot;).  Numerous characters have had epiphanies of self-awareness (SS &amp;quot;I'm a waste of space&amp;quot;, CZ &amp;quot;I've hit rack bartom!&amp;quot;).  And throughout the entire narrative we see fluctuating relational dynamics between all of the characters; their attitudes and behavior towards one another does not remain static (at times SB hates HR, and at other times they are found playing Cheat Commandos or drinking 'old ones together).  Because HR.com is episodic in nature it is difficult to see much character development in any given instance, but as a broader story arc it should be easier to see development. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 02:32, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Don't forget Strong Sad's development in Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon. That was a big one. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jail reference? ==&lt;br /&gt;
Doesn't the use of fireworks used as TNT count as a reference to the [[Strong Bad is in Jail]] 'toon? -{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
:Yep. Already mentioned. Same brand of rockets and everything. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== BIAS ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think the current interpretation of the phrase &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; found on the tape in the easter egg might be the wrong one.&lt;br /&gt;
Public radio is commonly perceived as having a left leaning ''political bias''.  The addition of the word &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; might refer to the perception that this political bias is normal for public radio.&lt;br /&gt;
Further, &amp;quot;Normal bias&amp;quot; is in the label location, where the person who records something onto the tape indicates what the recording is or is about (such as &amp;quot;David Bowie&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;2007 mix tape&amp;quot;).  If &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; was actually referring to the technical design of the tape we might expect to find it stamped on the tape in a different location and in a different manner.  We don't find other technical aspects of a tape or CD-R (such as &amp;quot;120 minutes&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;700 Mb&amp;quot;) in the label area of the item.  Any thoughts?  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 01:20, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm a little confused... just answering the last question you asked there, it's a cartoon, and TBC don't have time to draw in every little detail, especially on a tape or CD. Or Laserdisc. The &amp;quot;Normal Bias&amp;quot; label is there for satirical humor. I mean, what's funnier, &amp;quot;Normal Bias&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;TapeMakers 90 minutes&amp;quot;? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 01:27, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I just looked at what is posted about &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; and I can see why you are confused.  Let me clarify my previous post.  If you follow the link on the word &amp;quot;bias&amp;quot; it will take you to a wikipedia article about tape bias, a technical development in sound reproduction for cassette tapes.  By linking to this article, it is suggested that the use of the term &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; in the cartoon refers to Tape Bias.  My previous post was meant to argue that Tape Bias is the wrong way to interpret &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; and that there is a better, more likely interpretation.  My error was in thinking that the current interpretation is more obvious than it really is, thus I am at fault for your confusion.  With this clarification in mind, I hope that my previous post is more clear to you.  I propose that what is currently posted about &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; be removed from the Trivia section and in it's place we use my interpretation to explain &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; in the Real World References section.  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 02:30, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I think it's referring to tape bias &amp;amp;mdash; see [[geddup noise]] and [[Sketchbook 2006#SK-2006-08-31]] for other places that this comes up in the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] body of work. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Good point.  I am still puzzled why tech specs would be found in the user label portion of the tape, but the fact that the geddup noise radio station is a ribald morning show and ''not'' public radio demands the conclusion you have reached. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 02:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I think they simply didn't put as much thought as you into what they put on the tape to make it look like a tape. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:56, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Also, bias is something that is applied to the tape when it is recorded, it's not inherent to the specific tape itself (though, different bias is better for different kinds of tape).  When I used to work with tapes extensively I would always note on the label what bias I used to record the tape (in fact, there was typically a checkbox devoted to it on the user label).{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Incidentally, I'm the one who originally added the link to [[Wikipedia:Tape bias|tape bias]], which I put there for readers who might not know there was a double meaning to the word. But I've always thought that the pun was intended. That is, I think they used the technical term as a play on the political sense of the words. I figured linking to anything besides tape bias would be unnecessarily explaining the joke. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:58, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I can't say I agree; Homestar Runner stuff rarely if ever ventures into sociopolitical commentary.  It goes against the idea of the body of work.  Also, considering there was nothing political in the broadcast, it seems like a severe stretch. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 23:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Marzipan eats Marshmallows?! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A primary ingredient in Marshmallows is gelatin, which made from boiled animal bones. I don't think Marzipan would like this very much (since she is a vegetarian). Thoughts? I modified the article to show this, but it was reverted and claimed to be &amp;quot;nit-picking.&amp;quot;  Hardly. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 02:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Is Marzipan a vegetarian? Can you cite where it's disclosed? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:57, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, it's mentioned without citation a couple times on this wiki... but the only thing close to an official statement that I see comes from [[All_Things_Considered_Interview_-_8_May_2005|a 2005 interview on NPR]], in which the interviewer refers to Marzipan as &amp;quot;Homestar's Vegetarian girlfriend&amp;quot; and his statement is not refuted by TBC.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:05, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It's pretty safe to assume that Marzipan is a vegetarian or vegan of some kind.  Her mascara, for instance.  The tofu BBQ, for another.  [[Homestar Jr.]], for a third.  You may not have a verbal confession from her, but all signs point to that assumption.  I would suggest that based on the evidence we have it is harder to prove that she ''isn't'' a vegetarian than that she ''is''. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 03:28, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::However - Vegan Mascara might be a brand name. I like tofu almost as much as I like a steak. And reporters do get facts wrong sometimes, even NPR. I think it's just speculation to decide she's a vegan/strict vegetarian/weak vegetarian without explicit establishment. If the fact is included, it needs to be worded so as not to say she &amp;quot;is&amp;quot; a vegetarian, but that she might be; and also without weaseling the fact to the point of it no longer being notable. A challenge. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::All you need to prove that she isn't a vegetarian is an instance where she clearly violates general vegetarian protocol (marshmallows, we should agree, is a gray area).  In the logic tradition and in real world common sense 'no instance of violating vegetarian protocol' + 'numerous instances of demonstrating vegetarian behavior' = 'the fair assumption that Marzipan is a vegetarian.'  Put simply, I think your standard of proof is unnecessarily high.  My standard is the one practiced in the disciplines of Philosophy, History, English, and Behavioral Psychology, to name a few, and ought to be sufficient for a silly cartoon web site.  Your challenge does not need to be answered because a reasonable and sufficient argument has already been offered (not &amp;quot;just speculation&amp;quot;), not only by myself, but by Bryanc as well.  Again, a contrary example is all you need to prove our contention false.  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 04:08, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::She could just be stupid, ignorant, or misinformed.  This could also be a mistake by The Brothers Chaps. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 05:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Speaking of stupid, ignorant, or misinformed, how about those vegetarians? {snicker}.  Seriously though, I would have to agree in the end that it probably is just a mistake (and an understandable and forgivable one at that) by TBC; this would seem the most likely explanation for the perceived inconsistency. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 07:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Lynx, I don't need to prove she's not anything. The natural presumption is that people are like most other people unless there is evidence to the contrary. I maintain that calling her a vegetarian is speculative unless there is firm evidence. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I think what Lynx is trying to argue is that there is quite a lot of evidence.  Each piece of evidence alone may be interpreted as circumstantial, but the summation of it all lends great credence to the probability that Marzipan is indeed a vegetarian.  You are absolutely correct that there is no definitive proof.  She sure eats like one though.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Qermaq, I didn't say you needed to prove anything- you have it backwards.  I said that if you want to end all doubt and vindicate your position there is a simple way.  I didn't say &amp;quot;you need to ''prove''&amp;quot;, I said &amp;quot;what you ''need'' to prove.&amp;quot;  There's a real difference there.  I won't continue to rehash this topic with you, but I do want to say for the sake of others reading this that there ''is'' evidence that she is a vegetarian, the assumption is a reasonable one, not a speculative one, according to classical epistemology.  Instead of yielding to better reasoning, my friend Qermaq seems to be ignoring the firm evidence provided and misinterpreting what I have said.  I would that he follow my example from above (the BIAS discussion) and simply admit when he is beat.  I will say no more.  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 06:23, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::On the [[Chinese Food Toons Menu]] TBC imply ''very'' strongly that Marzipan is a vegetarian in the subtext to [[The Reddest Radish]].  Also, if this is being questioned than it follows that [[The Luau]], [[Marzipan]], and [[Old-Timey Marzipan]] all should be re-worded also.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Incidentally, the word vegan was [http://www.vegansociety.com/html/business/trademark/opportunities/standards.php coined] by The Vegan Society in the UK which still retains related trademarks.  A mascara company would not likely be granted permission to use the word as a brand name, even if the product was vegan.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You're confusing reality with the toon. I am not suggesting that &amp;quot;vegan&amp;quot; is indeed a brand name or even eligible to be one. I'm saying that in the H*R universe it could be intended as such. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I meant that as a sort of trivial interjection, but even so, why would they choose that particular brand name?{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Gelatin is sort of a gray area for some vegetarians, so are dairy products and eggs.  Certainly there are vegetarians who will not eat them, vegans definitely won't, but I do know several vegetarians who do eat such things.  I'm actually not against mentioning this fact in the article really, just wanted to mention that.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:12, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No, it isn't.  Just like meat, gelatin comes from the dead body of an animal.  Dairy products and eggs are clearly gray areas, but gelatin is *not*. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 05:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Further, this is ''Chilean Sea'' Marshmallow. Maybe it's a naturally-occurring plant life form, like the sea cucumber? Or maybe it's a soy-based marshmallow substitute? (What we really need is an Explanation about sea bass...) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::It ''is'' possible to make vegetarian/vegan marshmallows without using gelatin. Given that Marzipan's exact status as a non-meat-eater is fuzzy, I think it would be a stretch to draw any kind of conclusion from the fact that she eats a marshmallow (which hardly count as food anyway). &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:04, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: 2 - Although the specific type of vegetarianism that Marzipan follows is not known, eating gelatin is against *all* of them.  The [[Wikipedia:Vegetarian|wikipedia article]] has a good discussion of the various types.  You will note that all of them decry the eating of meat (remains of dead animals.) &lt;br /&gt;
: Thus, this is pretty clearly a goof to me. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 05:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::re: 1 - Yes it does, but when it comes to citations we can't cite ourselves.&lt;br /&gt;
::re: 2 - I can't knowledgeably comment on this, suffice to say that I know more than one self-proclaimed vegetarians who will eat gelatin.  Perhaps that makes them not-really-vegetarians.&lt;br /&gt;
::Dot com has already pointed out that there are readily available recipes to make marshmallow's that are both vegetarian and vegan.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Correct.  A &amp;quot;vegetarian&amp;quot; who eats gelatin is no more a true vegetarian than one who eats chicken or beef.  I do concede that there are vegetarian marshmallow recipes, though. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 14:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I strongly agree with Bryanc in all three points. As a non-gelatin-eating vegetarian, I say this is not a goof. Also, if anybody feels any further need to discuss whether Marzipan is a veg(etari)an or not, then this talk page is ''not'' the place to do it. Please do this at [[Talk:Marzipan#Vegetarian or vegan?]]. Thanks.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pledge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it be relevant to include an explanation of what a 'pledge' is in the Explanations section?  There must be at least some people who would benefit from the knowledge (myself included).--[[User:Tally Solleni|Tally Solleni]] 16:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sure &amp;amp;mdash; I'll try to add a little bit, and feel free to edit it if you can improve it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How Was Your Coincidence? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It's probably not a direct reference, but I can't help but notice one of Marzipan's lines (&amp;quot;My almond-encrusted Chilean sea marshmallow was just delicious. How was your hot dog?&amp;quot;) is strikingly similar to Veronica Lodge's line from the cover of Archie #547, which I read in the Editor's Notebook. (&amp;quot;My lobster thermador was superb!  How was your hot dog?&amp;quot;) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 06:30, 28 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'd say that's reference material.  I felt like Marzipan's &amp;quot;how was your hot dog?&amp;quot; was something that I'd heard/seen before, but I'm not at all familar with Archie.  Maybe the gag has been used in other works?  (A quick web search doesn't turn up anything in particular; not even the Archie quote.)  --[[User:Rriegs|Rriegs]] 10:29, 28 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I just thought it was a coincidence because I didn't catch any other references to Archie. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:41, 28 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Bod&amp;quot; reference ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Homestar's line &amp;quot;That you--gulp--'want his bod'?&amp;quot; is pretty close to the line dropped by Strong Bad in [[lady...ing]], &amp;quot;Oh, Marzipan. Do you want a-my bod!&amp;quot;  Anyone think it's worth a mention in the article?  --[[User:Rriegs|Rriegs]] 10:15, 28 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reminiscent? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Homestar and Strong Bad singing as their ship sinks is reminiscent of how the orchestra on the RMS Titanic continued to play while she sank.&lt;br /&gt;
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Didn't a fun fact just get destroyed recently due to that word? Personally, I don't see any similarity at all between the two, but somehow I didn't feel right just outright removing it... anyone? -{{User:YK/sig}} 07:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bought a bod? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I keep hearing &amp;quot;gulp - bought his bod?&amp;quot; Has Marzipan paying TC to do this? {{unsigned|The Magic Pixel|15:04, 29 2007 (UTC)}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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== What about a SECRET Hot Date ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there a connection between the &amp;quot;secret hot date&amp;quot; Cardboard Marzipan invited the Cheat on and the &amp;quot;hot date&amp;quot; they actually went on?  Is the fact that there are fireworks in both of the cartoons relevant? {{unsigned|75.85.125.208|22:58, 23 April 2007}}&lt;br /&gt;
:Might even mention the end of [[do over]] in relation to this too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, there's definitely been a pattern here. also note the &amp;quot;who's making out with marzipan&amp;quot; line from the cheat's theme song. that was probably the first lead in, or whatever --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]&lt;br /&gt;
Also peculiar that Marzipan doesn't seem to mind The Cheat's small talk about two Ira's, after being annoyed by Homestar's two Sid's in [[date]]. [[User:61.149.38.114|61.149.38.114]] 13:12, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, Homestar was playing a stupid, boring game that she had no hope of winning. The Cheat was actually holding a conversation. -[[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
::The &amp;quot;Making out with Marzipan&amp;quot; thing was a reference to the [[Homestar Talker]] game. The original wining phrase was &amp;quot;Making out with Marzipan is totally awesome.&amp;quot; {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:04, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Irony ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it worth mentioning that Strong Bad proposes that they drown the Cheat and Marzipan, but in the end it is Homestar and Strong Bad who are drowned? {{unsigned|75.85.125.208|22:58, 23 April 2007}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's along the lines of explaining the joke, something not normally done around here unless it's rather obscure. Also, please sign your talk page posts with four tildes (&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;){{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Public Rage-o flyer ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The broken glasses could be a play off of the glasses Ira Glass wears.  (They look quite similar)  Anyone else think so?  -Cappy Red [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 08:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, I thought the same thing. Weird when you see radio people on TV. It's always like &amp;quot;I don't know what I would have expected him to look like, but it just ain't that.&amp;quot; {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes, the first rule of thumb for all radio personalities is to [[:Image:deadlypallor.png|look]] absolutely nothing like how they sound. =3 {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Oh yeah, forgot we'd already had a lesson on that. Glass actually comes ''close'' to what you'd (I'd) expect him to look like, but just not quite. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 09:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Truly, he looks just different enough so as to throw you off.  It's like he has his own personal [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley uncanny valley] ;¬) -Cappy Red [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 15:23, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 8-Bit resemblence ==&lt;br /&gt;
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i'm not suggesting anybody uses this, but does any one else notice any echoes of Black Mage from 8-bit theater in Strong Bad when he's discussing the drowning of Marzipan and the Cheat? especially the &amp;quot;Explain to me how drowning them wouldn't ruin their date&amp;quot; line. it's funny, but that's just me.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Strong Bad always sounds like that. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Heh, that is totally something BM would say. [[User:The makuta|The makuta]] 13:47, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mario ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I obviously thought of Mario when Strong Bad said &amp;quot;Itsa me, the chef-a&amp;quot;, but I don't know if it's really that clear. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 09:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Mario has a bad Italian accent too, yes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:One of Mario's catchphrases is &amp;quot;It's-a me! Mario!&amp;quot; I thought of Mario as well. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 10:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Stereotypical Italian, probably. I thought it was Mario as well, but an Italian seems more practical. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 10:25, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Shockingly, Mario ''is'' Italian. and we know TBC are nintendo guys, i'd expect them to have had mario in the front of their minds as a role model for a fake-italian accent --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]&lt;br /&gt;
::::I immediately thought of Mario. It brought me back to my N64 days. The startup screen...&amp;quot;Itsa me! Mario! *doo doo doo doo doo doo* Hello!&amp;quot; --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 22:03, 24 Apr 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Methinks it's a stereotypical Italian chef. Not Mario. It's POSSIBLE, but I doubt it. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Not possible. It's stereotyped Italian, just as Mario is. If it's like Mario, it's stereotypical Italian, and is no ref to Mario. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:15, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Mario is not the only Italian in the world.  He's not even the only Italian stereotype.  Have you forgotten [[Wikipedia:List_of_recurring_characters_from_The_Simpsons#Luigi_Risotto|Luigi]]?  The one on the Simpsons, not Mario's brother!  --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 03:55, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::My opinion: I think a reference to Mario. My username may play a part in this, though. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::I didn't think of Mario at all when I first watched this, and my initial reaction to the idea was that it is only a play on the stereotype.  But I did a few [http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;q=%22it%27sa+me%22&amp;amp;btnG=Google+Search google] [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;amp;safe=off&amp;amp;q=%22it%27s-a-me%22&amp;amp;btnG=Search searches] and an overwhelming majority of the results pertain to Mario, often the N64 incarnation of the game.  I'm still hesitant, but now I'm not as sure.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The reason I thought of Mario was because of the &amp;quot;Itsa me ***&amp;quot; format. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 04:10, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Speaking as an IP address, I probably don't have much clout, but I'd definitely say Mario reference.  Stereotypical italians don't say &amp;quot;Itsa Me!&amp;quot; Only Mario does. [[User:129.64.141.43|129.64.141.43]] 16:06, 25 April 2007 (UTC) (oh, and this image code thing is disgusting, I normally can get these things no problem, but this is just like paint splatters)&lt;br /&gt;
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:(129.64.141.43, I replied [[User talk:129.64.141.43|here]]) This one's a tough call, but I'm leaning toward it being a reference to Mario here. The discussion is so evenly split, I think that [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] would be helpful here &amp;amp;mdash; I'll get one started. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Okay, [[STUFF:Date Nite#Thank you, chef! But our reference is in another castle.|here it is]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I also thought of Mario right away, but that doesn't mean that that's what TBC were thinking of when they wrote the cartoon. --[[User:Lux Acerbus|Lux Acerbus]] 01:25, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Another Reference to Coach Z thinking he's a woman ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The curlers on Coach Z's head and the rolling pin he's holding seems to be another reference to Coach Z thinking he's a woman, the other being when he said he was a mom in an easter egg at the end of Sbemail #129 Garage Sale.&lt;br /&gt;
:I think it's unwise to assume that Coach is conscientiously pretending to be a woman. Can't TBC just stick him in the cartoon to make a final punchline with no strings attached? &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Right now the page suggests that Coach Z is a &amp;quot;mom&amp;quot; in this cartoon.  He is clearly displaying characteristics of a woman (certain attitude, curlers, rolling pin), but there is no indication that he is acting like a &amp;quot;mom&amp;quot; (a particular kind of woman). [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 17:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think he's acting like a wife. I mean, that's just such a classic image in television and movies. I don't know if he's doing it on purpose or if he just has a complex, though. Personally, I was thinking OTP. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
::::I think he's being portrayed as a mother. Mabye he's actually a girl. We have no way of knowing if he is or not. He may actually be Bubs' mother. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 19:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Oh my. That would be quite the interesting development...--[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 22:04, 24 Apr 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Believe it or not, there are some men who wear curlers (I'm involved in the dance world :P). Though I agree it's more than likely a joke that he's playing a mom. Nothin' serious. Coach Z has always been weird. [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:29, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::We have, after all, established that he has more than two problems. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Going down with the ship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is the fact that Homestar and Strong Bad are singing the national anthem as their 'ship' goes down a reference to anything? It seems familiar to me, but I don't know where from... {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I thought of [[Wikipedia:RMS Titanic|Titanic]] when I first saw it. The orchestra on the ship continued playing as the ship was sinking. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 11:27, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I thought of that Looney Toons with Nero and Yosemite Sam as a Roman centurion and the pillar slowly falling while Nero plays Taps on a violin. Maybe something like that inspired them. [[User:Elvis|Uhuh huh. Thankyaveramuch.]] 12:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think Elvis got it. This &amp;quot;going down with the ship&amp;quot; thing seems very cartoony. Looney Toony. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:45, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Okay bear with me a second. I've never actually seen the Hunt for Red October, so I'm getting this from my mom. In order to hijack the Red October and go to America, they took it out on the maiden voyage. The part of the crew that was in on the plot arranged a fake nuclear explosion and forced the rest of the crew off the sub. That part of the crew was standing on an American ship when the fake explosion occurred, and they sang the Russian national anthem while the Red October &amp;quot;sank&amp;quot;. I think that's the reference the Brothers Chaps were going for. -[[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
::Could be that too. You never know for sure what they are thinking. I say we shouldn't try to pinpoint this as a solid reference to anything in particular. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Except they don't sing the anthem as the ship goes down. The Russians stand on the deck of the rescuing American ship, silent and mournfully removing their caps, staring at the sea. They sing it much earlier in the film, when they first engage the [[Wikipedia:Magnetohydrodynamic drive|caterpillar drive]]. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::It's actually another sub that explodes. The Russian Anthem does play at the end of the movie IIRC. It's close, but I wouldn't call it a reference.{{User:NFITC1/sig}} 13:56, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::They didn't know it was another sub, of course. At the end, it's not the Russian anthem, but a reprise of the main theme of the movie. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:23, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I fail to see how this is cartoony. It's a common motif, not a reference to anything in particular.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It could be a reference to most cartoons, which sing/plays [[Wikipedia:Taps|Taps]] as their ship sinks. - {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
Mind, I don't think it should be in the article, but for the record, I thought the same thing. &amp;quot;Hm, Red October reference, singing a national anthem...&amp;quot; &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In the inside references section it mentions the part in SBIIJC where the bang was all that was needed. Wouldn't the fathoom be necessary in this case, considering without it Homestar and Strong Bad would just blow up? [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 12:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yea, I noticed the same thing. From what I can tell, they want the fathoom so that they fire towards Marzipan and The Cheat. I'm changing it. [[User:The makuta|The makuta]] 13:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fundraising weeks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How many local NPR stations are having their drives this week?  I know it is in Jacksonville, FL.&lt;br /&gt;
:Why are you asking this? What relativity does it have to Homestar Runner? Why didn't you sign your post? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:22, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Because the Easter egg is about public radio fundraising drives, during the same time that many NPR stations are having fundraising drives. That's why. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I didn't read the easter egg. It just seemed really out of the blue. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 21:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I'd say the fact doesn't belong. There is no official schedule that I'm aware of for fund raising on public radio, so each week could be a fundraising week for some station. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Don't read it, watch it! {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:07, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Huh? What am I not supposed to read and supposed to watch? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:49, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::That was a reply to Jangles' &amp;quot;I didn't read the easter egg.&amp;quot;{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:50, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== FUN Facts.  FUN ==&lt;br /&gt;
How is this piece of trivia a Fun fact? &amp;quot;Marzipan strokes her right eye with mascara 18 times.&amp;quot; I'm pretty sure it isn't. [[User:63.229.175.33|63.229.175.33]] 14:40, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Good point. I've deleted it- maybe whoever put it there would mind explaining why it's of interest? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 15:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::oh, you know, just in case someone wanted to be able to say that they apply makeup just like marzipan does or something --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Squared Circle ==&lt;br /&gt;
The Squared Circle is a term used in Professional Wrestling, because unlike the actual sport, where they wrestle within a circle, the entertainment version takes place in a square ring, hence, square instead of circle.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Differnet ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it just me, or did this toon seem... I dunno... different than the older ones somehow? Did TBC use a different engine to make it or something?--[[User:Homsar Lover|Homsar Lover]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Looks like Flash to me. Maybe they upgraded the program or something. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe you're not used to the style used (as in it's night, romance, fancy resteraunts, etc.).-{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Marzipan's house ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm pretty sure Homestar and Marzipan live together now. [[User:130.91.36.229|130.91.36.229]] 17:49, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:DVD Commentary on [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]:&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;'''MATT:''' Dude, I don't want to hint at any cohabitation here, okay?&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:--[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Although they probably don't, alot of things hint at it, such as the &amp;quot;stay home running in place&amp;quot; (Homestar was jogging at Marzy's house) and the &amp;quot;Marzipan, I'm home!&amp;quot; from [[your funeral]]. But, of couse, the above quote dispells all. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::So, [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]] was what, three years ago? They sure do seem to live together now, though. [[User:76.99.53.18|76.99.53.18]] 22:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC) (Same guy, different IP address.)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That commentary was recorded last summer. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:57, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Strong Bad, Nice? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me, or is strong bad being a friend towards homestar? isn't that out of character?&lt;br /&gt;
:Strong Bad can be civil when he wants. Besides, they had a common goal. I admit, it was a little 'Bwuh?', though. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
::The common goal between Homestar and Strong Bad is what made this toon stand out. And quite nicely too. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I've seen this before in cartoons. [[Wikipedia:The Fairly Oddparents|Fairly Oddparents]], for one. Timmy and Remy were both mad at Cupid in one episode, so they truced (even though they are enemies) to &amp;quot;kill&amp;quot; him (or at least seriously injure him, that gorrilla looked an''gry'') --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Maybe to make it so you don't have to have watched that episode to know what it's about, I'll reference [[Wikipedia:The Jimmy Timmy Power Hour 2: When Nerds Collide|this episode]], in which Jimmy and Timmy team up to make it so the anti-faires (and later Professor Calamitous) don't take over the world. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A little gay...==&lt;br /&gt;
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Don't be mad at me or anything, but dosen't it seem the SB and TC are...(ugh). I mean, Homestar was mad at Marzi because she is going out with another man and she is his girlfriend, but SB was mad at TC for the same reason, making TC his...Boyfriend?!? -A little confused, {{User:HeyMama/sig}} 04:32 pm, Tuesday, April 24th.&lt;br /&gt;
:Strong Bad 1. Hates Marzipan and B. Is TC's best friend. Of course he's angry. It's Coach Z we should be worried about though :P {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:37, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, personally, I don't know why that would be worrying. On the other hand, this is really a discussion for the forum.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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No.  Strong Bad hates Marzipan.  The gay relationship we should worry about is Strong Mad and The Cheat.{{unsigned|Tgcdse|15:50, 25 April 2007}}&lt;br /&gt;
::What Loafing said.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 22:53, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::This thread is veering out of talk page appropriateness but let me state that in no way would I buy for a second that TBC are ever going to present their characters in any relationship other than goofy, dysfunctional ones. Not that we need to &amp;quot;worry&amp;quot; about a gay relationship in the first place, but it's as close to a certainty as anything is in this world that TBC are not intending their characters to be gay. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:it might be worrisome that TBC might be introducing gay themes to HR.com.  Isn't that the entire point of HeyMama's post?  I might be able to ignore your politically correct notions that homosexuality is normal if you didn't feel the need to lecture people about it and then complain that the discussion is inappropriate.  If you truly thought it was inappropriate you wouldn't engage in it yourselves, but merely say &amp;quot;this is inappropriate.&amp;quot;  But that urge to add your viewpoint on homosexuality to the thread is just too strong to pass up, isn't it?  My guess is that TBC leave gay themes out of HR.com because it ''isn't'' normal and it offends a lot of people.  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 07:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::This is inappropriate. You have now ''both'' given in to the urge to state your personal viewpoints. This thread is not material to the content of the article, so, per our talk page policy, please stop using it for discussion. You or anyone else is certainly welcome to continue this subject, so long as it's not here. As it has been repeatedly suggested, our forum is one such venue where you can go to talk about it if you so desire. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Strong Sad's voice ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it just me, or does Strong Sad's voice sound suddenly different? Deeper or something. [[User:Ekul|Ekul]] 21:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Yes, Strong Sad's voice and character have been evolving a bit lately. Just this year, he's already been physicially violent toward Strong Bad (Rough Copy) and smiled willingly (Looking Old) before that. Nothing particularly unusual about it, though, as this sort of evolution happens with all of the characters from time to time. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 08:57, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Title Card ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is this the only toon, other than [[Summer Short Shorts]], that has a title card in it?--[[User:SDSpivey|SDSpivey]] 21:47, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Ummm...what do you mean by Title Card?? --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:56, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::A [[Wikipedia:Title card|title card]] is a separate image of the show's title. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:00, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] had a title card. Some of the older ones (like [[A Jorb well done]] and [[Powered by The Cheat]] cartoons) -{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
::Speaking of title cards, should someone add that at the end of the title sequence, the 'e' falls against the title frame?[[User:Sir Vimes|Sir Vimes]] 23:38, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Every Big Toon, even from 2005-now, has a title card.  (although for [[Strongest Man in the World]] they simply reused the cover of [[The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest]], which the toon is based on)  Also, every major Halloween toon, the [[Puppet Stuff]], and every [[Decemberween]] special except the email [[what i want]] have title cards. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:08, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Isn't the tilted 'e' a reference to a sign for a famous club or bar or restaurant or something (or maybe it was a painting)?  I swear I've seen something similar to it before.  Does anyone know what I'm taking about? [[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 05:43, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Dell? Enron? Sorry my mind reading abilities are on the fritz.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 06:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::No, it wasn't like a company (I don't think).  I think the format of the sign was similar, two words on top of one another, the last one or two letters being the same in both words, so they used a large letter for both.  I can picture it, but I can't name it for the life of me.  I dunno, maybe divine inspiration will hit me at some point to remember it.[[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 20:27, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Strong Bad Old-timey Strong Bad Reference ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it me or is that italian mustache SB was wearing look kinda like Old-Timey SB's mustache? {{User:Austio888888/sig}} 23:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:A lot of mustaches have appeared in Homestar Runner. See [[Mustaches]]. Also, Old-Timey SB's 'stache is a lot longer, methinks. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I thought the same thing - I wondered if it's worth mentioning that SB resembles his Old-Timey counterpart here. --{{User:NoMayonnaise/sig}} 15:35, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fireworks mirror ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think we should do a mirror where the fireworks goof appears (when they're still attached to the ship when they sink) like the &amp;quot;floating lime&amp;quot; mirror in [[Let us give TANKS!]]. I have the flash file for that version, so I think that would help. How would I upload it? --{{User:Darkangel/sig}} 03:48, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You wouldn't. Only images and audio can be uploaded. Tom runs the mirror as far as I know, so if he doesn't already have it, you'd have to get it to him. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:17, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Perhaps you could take a screen shot of the fireworks appearing on the sub? Just a suggestion --[[User:Murgatroid|Murgatroid]] 05:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Email it to the address at the bottom of [[User:Tom#Contact me|Tom]]'s user page. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:20, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== ... that fake mustache he always wears ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I acknowledge that the mustache appearance is a good inside reference, but isn't this more directly an inside reference to Fabrosi / Homestar's fake mustaches from Lady-ing given the fact that the Cheat's mustache is a fake? [[User:71.96.169.82|71.96.169.82]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Since when did Homestar have a fake mustache in lady...ing? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:41, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Since the Easter egg. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:45, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Oh. Now see, I've never watched that Easter Egg. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::For shame, Martyo, for shame. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Four, then? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Who is Marzipan referring to when remarks that Homestar has had to fight off four foxes' mothers to stay loyal to her? The first thing that popped in my head was TGS, but that doesn't really make sense. Could it be the failed female characters they're referring to? Champeen and them? [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:31, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh, nevahmind, it's prolly just that's as high as he can count. LOL [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:32, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::('''edit conflict''')She's not referring to anyone in particular. Homestar says &amp;quot;more than I can count,&amp;quot; so she's making fun of him by saying he can't even count to 4. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 15:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Character Development ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Woah. This is the first time I've seen real character development, done by characters, with actual development, since, like...ever. Does anyone else notice that? And feel unnverved? [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 15:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:This is probably the most salient example, but I think it would be difficult to hold that it is the first time.  There are snippets of character development here and there, if we allow that the entire world of www.homestarrunner.com is one holistic narrative.  For example, we know that the relationship between Strong Sad and Strong Bad wasn't always as it is now ([[The Secrets That I Keep]]).  We also see a desperate attempt by the KOT to become a cool character (seeking help from Marzipan on her answering machine and creating KOTVOQPCS, which by it's name implies that the KOT is &amp;quot;popular&amp;quot;).  Numerous characters have had epiphanies of self-awareness (SS &amp;quot;I'm a waste of space&amp;quot;, CZ &amp;quot;I've hit rack bartom!&amp;quot;).  And throughout the entire narrative we see fluctuating relational dynamics between all of the characters; their attitudes and behavior towards one another does not remain static (at times SB hates HR, and at other times they are found playing Cheat Commandos or drinking 'old ones together).  Because HR.com is episodic in nature it is difficult to see much character development in any given instance, but as a broader story arc it should be easier to see development. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 02:32, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Don't forget Strong Sad's development in Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon. That was a big one. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jail reference? ==&lt;br /&gt;
Doesn't the use of fireworks used as TNT count as a reference to the [[Strong Bad is in Jail]] 'toon? -{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}&lt;br /&gt;
:Yep. Already mentioned. Same brand of rockets and everything. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== BIAS ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think the current interpretation of the phrase &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; found on the tape in the easter egg might be the wrong one.&lt;br /&gt;
Public radio is commonly perceived as having a left leaning ''political bias''.  The addition of the word &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; might refer to the perception that this political bias is normal for public radio.&lt;br /&gt;
Further, &amp;quot;Normal bias&amp;quot; is in the label location, where the person who records something onto the tape indicates what the recording is or is about (such as &amp;quot;David Bowie&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;2007 mix tape&amp;quot;).  If &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; was actually referring to the technical design of the tape we might expect to find it stamped on the tape in a different location and in a different manner.  We don't find other technical aspects of a tape or CD-R (such as &amp;quot;120 minutes&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;700 Mb&amp;quot;) in the label area of the item.  Any thoughts?  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 01:20, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm a little confused... just answering the last question you asked there, it's a cartoon, and TBC don't have time to draw in every little detail, especially on a tape or CD. Or Laserdisc. The &amp;quot;Normal Bias&amp;quot; label is there for satirical humor. I mean, what's funnier, &amp;quot;Normal Bias&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;TapeMakers 90 minutes&amp;quot;? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 01:27, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I just looked at what is posted about &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; and I can see why you are confused.  Let me clarify my previous post.  If you follow the link on the word &amp;quot;bias&amp;quot; it will take you to a wikipedia article about tape bias, a technical development in sound reproduction for cassette tapes.  By linking to this article, it is suggested that the use of the term &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; in the cartoon refers to Tape Bias.  My previous post was meant to argue that Tape Bias is the wrong way to interpret &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; and that there is a better, more likely interpretation.  My error was in thinking that the current interpretation is more obvious than it really is, thus I am at fault for your confusion.  With this clarification in mind, I hope that my previous post is more clear to you.  I propose that what is currently posted about &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; be removed from the Trivia section and in it's place we use my interpretation to explain &amp;quot;normal bias&amp;quot; in the Real World References section.  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 02:30, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I think it's referring to tape bias &amp;amp;mdash; see [[geddup noise]] and [[Sketchbook 2006#SK-2006-08-31]] for other places that this comes up in the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] body of work. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Good point.  I am still puzzled why tech specs would be found in the user label portion of the tape, but the fact that the geddup noise radio station is a ribald morning show and ''not'' public radio demands the conclusion you have reached. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 02:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I think they simply didn't put as much thought as you into what they put on the tape to make it look like a tape. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:56, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Also, bias is something that is applied to the tape when it is recorded, it's not inherent to the specific tape itself (though, different bias is better for different kinds of tape).  When I used to work with tapes extensively I would always note on the label what bias I used to record the tape (in fact, there was typically a checkbox devoted to it on the user label).{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Incidentally, I'm the one who originally added the link to [[Wikipedia:Tape bias|tape bias]], which I put there for readers who might not know there was a double meaning to the word. But I've always thought that the pun was intended. That is, I think they used the technical term as a play on the political sense of the words. I figured linking to anything besides tape bias would be unnecessarily explaining the joke. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:58, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I can't say I agree; Homestar Runner stuff rarely if ever ventures into sociopolitical commentary.  It goes against the idea of the body of work.  Also, considering there was nothing political in the broadcast, it seems like a severe stretch. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 23:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Marzipan eats Marshmallows?! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A primary ingredient in Marshmallows is gelatin, which made from boiled animal bones. I don't think Marzipan would like this very much (since she is a vegetarian). Thoughts? I modified the article to show this, but it was reverted and claimed to be &amp;quot;nit-picking.&amp;quot;  Hardly. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 02:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Is Marzipan a vegetarian? Can you cite where it's disclosed? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:57, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, it's mentioned without citation a couple times on this wiki... but the only thing close to an official statement that I see comes from [[All_Things_Considered_Interview_-_8_May_2005|a 2005 interview on NPR]], in which the interviewer refers to Marzipan as &amp;quot;Homestar's Vegetarian girlfriend&amp;quot; and his statement is not refuted by TBC.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:05, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It's pretty safe to assume that Marzipan is a vegetarian or vegan of some kind.  Her mascara, for instance.  The tofu BBQ, for another.  [[Homestar Jr.]], for a third.  You may not have a verbal confession from her, but all signs point to that assumption.  I would suggest that based on the evidence we have it is harder to prove that she ''isn't'' a vegetarian than that she ''is''. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 03:28, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::However - Vegan Mascara might be a brand name. I like tofu almost as much as I like a steak. And reporters do get facts wrong sometimes, even NPR. I think it's just speculation to decide she's a vegan/strict vegetarian/weak vegetarian without explicit establishment. If the fact is included, it needs to be worded so as not to say she &amp;quot;is&amp;quot; a vegetarian, but that she might be; and also without weaseling the fact to the point of it no longer being notable. A challenge. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::All you need to prove that she isn't a vegetarian is an instance where she clearly violates general vegetarian protocol (marshmallows, we should agree, is a gray area).  In the logic tradition and in real world common sense 'no instance of violating vegetarian protocol' + 'numerous instances of demonstrating vegetarian behavior' = 'the fair assumption that Marzipan is a vegetarian.'  Put simply, I think your standard of proof is unnecessarily high.  My standard is the one practiced in the disciplines of Philosophy, History, English, and Behavioral Psychology, to name a few, and ought to be sufficient for a silly cartoon web site.  Your challenge does not need to be answered because a reasonable and sufficient argument has already been offered (not &amp;quot;just speculation&amp;quot;), not only by myself, but by Bryanc as well.  Again, a contrary example is all you need to prove our contention false.  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 04:08, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::She could just be stupid, ignorant, or misinformed.  This could also be a mistake by The Brothers Chaps. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 05:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Speaking of stupid, ignorant, or misinformed, how about those vegetarians? {snicker}.  Seriously though, I would have to agree in the end that it probably is just a mistake (and an understandable and forgivable one at that) by TBC; this would seem the most likely explanation for the perceived inconsistency. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 07:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Lynx, I don't need to prove she's not anything. The natural presumption is that people are like most other people unless there is evidence to the contrary. I maintain that calling her a vegetarian is speculative unless there is firm evidence. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I think what Lynx is trying to argue is that there is quite a lot of evidence.  Each piece of evidence alone may be interpreted as circumstantial, but the summation of it all lends great credence to the probability that Marzipan is indeed a vegetarian.  You are absolutely correct that there is no definitive proof.  She sure eats like one though.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Qermaq, I didn't say you needed to prove anything- you have it backwards.  I said that if you want to end all doubt and vindicate your position there is a simple way.  I didn't say &amp;quot;you need to ''prove''&amp;quot;, I said &amp;quot;what you ''need'' to prove.&amp;quot;  There's a real difference there.  I won't continue to rehash this topic with you, but I do want to say for the sake of others reading this that there ''is'' evidence that she is a vegetarian, the assumption is a reasonable one, not a speculative one, according to classical epistemology.  Instead of yielding to better reasoning, my friend Qermaq seems to be ignoring the firm evidence provided and misinterpreting what I have said.  I would that he follow my example from above (the BIAS discussion) and simply admit when he is beat.  I will say no more.  [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 06:23, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::On the [[Chinese Food Toons Menu]] TBC imply ''very'' strongly that Marzipan is a vegetarian in the subtext to [[The Reddest Radish]].  Also, if this is being questioned than it follows that [[The Luau]], [[Marzipan]], and [[Old-Timey Marzipan]] all should be re-worded also.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Incidentally, the word vegan was [http://www.vegansociety.com/html/business/trademark/opportunities/standards.php coined] by The Vegan Society in the UK which still retains related trademarks.  A mascara company would not likely be granted permission to use the word as a brand name, even if the product was vegan.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You're confusing reality with the toon. I am not suggesting that &amp;quot;vegan&amp;quot; is indeed a brand name or even eligible to be one. I'm saying that in the H*R universe it could be intended as such. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I meant that as a sort of trivial interjection, but even so, why would they choose that particular brand name?{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Gelatin is sort of a gray area for some vegetarians, so are dairy products and eggs.  Certainly there are vegetarians who will not eat them, vegans definitely won't, but I do know several vegetarians who do eat such things.  I'm actually not against mentioning this fact in the article really, just wanted to mention that.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:12, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No, it isn't.  Just like meat, gelatin comes from the dead body of an animal.  Dairy products and eggs are clearly gray areas, but gelatin is *not*. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 05:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Further, this is ''Chilean Sea'' Marshmallow. Maybe it's a naturally-occurring plant life form, like the sea cucumber? Or maybe it's a soy-based marshmallow substitute? (What we really need is an Explanation about sea bass...) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::It ''is'' possible to make vegetarian/vegan marshmallows without using gelatin. Given that Marzipan's exact status as a non-meat-eater is fuzzy, I think it would be a stretch to draw any kind of conclusion from the fact that she eats a marshmallow (which hardly count as food anyway). &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:04, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: 1 - The [[Marzipan]] article clearly states that she is a vegetarian.&lt;br /&gt;
: 2 - Although the specific type of vegetarianism that Marzipan follows is not known, eating gelatin is against *all* of them.  The [[Wikipedia:Vegetarian|wikipedia article]] has a good discussion of the various types.  You will note that all of them decry the eating of meat (remains of dead animals.) &lt;br /&gt;
: Thus, this is pretty clearly a goof to me. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 05:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::re: 1 - Yes it does, but when it comes to citations we can't cite ourselves.&lt;br /&gt;
::re: 2 - I can't knowledgeably comment on this, suffice to say that I know more than one self-proclaimed vegetarians who will eat gelatin.  Perhaps that makes them not-really-vegetarians.&lt;br /&gt;
::Dot com has already pointed out that there are readily available recipes to make marshmallow's that are both vegetarian and vegan.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Correct.  A &amp;quot;vegetarian&amp;quot; who eats gelatin is no more a true vegetarian than one who eats chicken or beef.  I do concede that there are vegetarian marshmallow recipes, though. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 14:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I strongly agree with Bryanc in all three points. As a non-gelatin-eating vegetarian, I say this is not a goof. Also, if anybody feels any further need to discuss whether Marzipan is a veg(etari)an or not, then this talk page is ''not'' the place to do it. Please do this at [[Talk:Marzipan#Vegetarian or vegan?]]. Thanks.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pledge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it be relevant to include an explanation of what a 'pledge' is in the Explanations section?  There must be at least some people who would benefit from the knowledge (myself included).--[[User:Tally Solleni|Tally Solleni]] 16:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sure &amp;amp;mdash; I'll try to add a little bit, and feel free to edit it if you can improve it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How Was Your Coincidence? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It's probably not a direct reference, but I can't help but notice one of Marzipan's lines (&amp;quot;My almond-encrusted Chilean sea marshmallow was just delicious. How was your hot dog?&amp;quot;) is strikingly similar to Veronica Lodge's line from the cover of Archie #547, which I read in the Editor's Notebook. (&amp;quot;My lobster thermador was superb!  How was your hot dog?&amp;quot;) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 06:30, 28 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'd say that's reference material.  I felt like Marzipan's &amp;quot;how was your hot dog?&amp;quot; was something that I'd heard/seen before, but I'm not at all familar with Archie.  Maybe the gag has been used in other works?  (A quick web search doesn't turn up anything in particular; not even the Archie quote.)  --[[User:Rriegs|Rriegs]] 10:29, 28 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I just thought it was a coincidence because I didn't catch any other references to Archie. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:41, 28 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Bod&amp;quot; reference ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Homestar's line &amp;quot;That you--gulp--'want his bod'?&amp;quot; is pretty close to the line dropped by Strong Bad in [[lady...ing]], &amp;quot;Oh, Marzipan. Do you want a-my bod!&amp;quot;  Anyone think it's worth a mention in the article?  --[[User:Rriegs|Rriegs]] 10:15, 28 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reminiscent? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Homestar and Strong Bad singing as their ship sinks is reminiscent of how the orchestra on the RMS Titanic continued to play while she sank.&lt;br /&gt;
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Didn't a fun fact just get destroyed recently due to that word? Personally, I don't see any similarity at all between the two, but somehow I didn't feel right just outright removing it... anyone? -{{User:YK/sig}} 07:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bought a bod? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I keep hearing &amp;quot;gulp - bought his bod?&amp;quot; His Marzipan paying TC to do this?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>http://hrwiki.org/wiki/User:The_Magic_Pixel</id>
		<title>User:The Magic Pixel</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;The Magic Pixel:&amp;#32;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;blockquote class=&amp;quot;lappy email&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div&amp;gt;Subject: Blue Diamond?&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Dear Strong Bad the Almighty,&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What does the blue diamond on your head simbolise?&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Not gonna say crap,&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[''censored to the public''].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
]Well, it all sta- wait a second. Checkin', checkin', checkin'... whoa! No &lt;br /&gt;
errors that I see! This sbemail is awesome! Good job!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
]Well Censored, it simbolises the fact that I'm better than everyone else.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
]You see, Bubs is cool, but not awesome. But his coolness goes into the BLUE&lt;br /&gt;
factor of my diamond. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
]The actuall shape of the diamond, well, that's just something that The Cheat &lt;br /&gt;
and I made up when we were bored. &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;The Magic Pixel:&amp;#32;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;blockquote class=&amp;quot;lappy email&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div&amp;gt;Subject: Blue Diamond?&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Dear Strong Bad the Almighty,&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What does the blue diamond on your head simbolise?&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Not gonna say crap,&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[''censored to the public''].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
]Well, it all sta- wait a second. Checkin', checkin', checkin'... whoa! No &lt;br /&gt;
errors that I see! This sbemail is awesome! Good job!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
]Well Censored, it simbolises the fact that I'm better than everyone else.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
]You see, Bubs is cool, but not awesome. But his coolness goes into the BLUE&lt;br /&gt;
factor of my diamond. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
]The actuall shape of the diamond, well, that's just something that The Cheat &lt;br /&gt;
and I made up when we were bored. &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	{{userbox|border=#000000|mainbkgd=#C9C9C9|codebkgd=#000000 |codecolor=#00FF00|code=[[Image:sbemail1.PNG|43px]]|msg=This user's favorite short is '''[[An Important Rap Song]]''' but liked the SBEmail background, so he chose it for this one.}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;The Magic Pixel:&amp;#32;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;blockquote class=&amp;quot;lappy email&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div&amp;gt;Subject: Blue Diamond?&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Dear Strong Bad the Almighty,&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What does the blue diamond on your head simbolise?&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Not gonna say crap,&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[''censored to the public''].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
____________________________________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
]Well, it all sta- wait a second. Checkin', checkin', checkin'... whoa! No &lt;br /&gt;
errors that I see! This sbemail is awesome! Good job!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
]Well Censored, it simbolises the fact that I'm better than everyone else.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
]You see, Bubs is cool, but not awesome. But his coolness goes into the BLUE&lt;br /&gt;
factor of my diamond. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
]The actuall shape of the diamond, well, that's just something that The Cheat &lt;br /&gt;
and I made up when we were bored. &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;The Magic Pixel:&amp;#32;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;blockquote class=&amp;quot;lappy email&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div&amp;gt;Subject: bored...&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Dear Strong Bad the Almighty,&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What does the blue diamond on your head simbolise?&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Not gonna say crap,&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[''censored to the public''].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
____________________________________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;
]Well Censored, it simbolises the fact that I'm better than everyone else.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
]You see, Bubs is cool, but not awesome. But his coolness goes into the BLUE&lt;br /&gt;
factor of my diamond. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
]The actuall shape of the diamond, well, that's just something that The Cheat &lt;br /&gt;
and I made up when we were bored. &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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