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Free Country, USA

2008-08-25T01:14:53Z

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| '''Language''' || [[Wikipedia:English language|English]]
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| '''Nominal Monarch''' || [[The King of Town]]
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| '''Population''' || [[Characters|21, at least]]
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| '''Currency''' || [[Wikipedia:United States Dollar|U.S. Dollar]] ([[Free Country, USA#Economics|probably]]) [[lackey|Pencil Shavings]] ([[Free Country, USA#Economics|sometimes]]).
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'''Free Country, USA''' (also spelled '''Free Country USA''' and '''FCUSA'''), is where the [[Homestar Runner universe]] is centered. All of the [[:Category:Main Characters|main characters]] live, work, and play here.

==Geographical Features and Locations==
[[Image:The Empty Field Of Green.png|thumb|The thriving hub that is Free Country, USA]]

Free Country, USA features a verdant [[The Field|field]] that typically serves as a central link between the various features of the landscape. At the center of the field itself is [[The Stick]], which functions as a landmark and a meeting place for [[Strong Bad]] and whomever he chooses to meet there. The edge of the field is lined with what appear to be trees. They represent the edge of Free Country. Probably also somewhere in or near the field is a stream with a picturesque [[The Stone Bridge|stone bridge]]. [[Date Nite|Once]], Strong Bad and [[Homestar Runner]] rocketed their [[USS Flirtini|cardboard submarine]] backwards along this stream, ending up in a large, open body of water. This may or may not be [[The Pond|the pond]] Strong Bad and [[Coach Z]] has been seen fishing in, or the sea; [[Marzipan]] once [[Homestar Presents: Presents|mentioned]] a location she referred to as "the wharfs", featuring crab traps and trapped baby seals. Rounding out the natural features are mountains (usually seen only from a distance). The foothills of these mountains are likely located in the nearby [[Spooky Woods|woods]], as they contain at least one [[cliff]]. There is also one "hot spot", [[Carrot and Kazoo Hill]].

Specific locations in Free Country are treated with a certain ambiguity. Somewhere at the edge of The Field is the [[The Athletic Field|Athletic Field]]; logically, [[Coach Z's locker room]] is near the Athletic Field. Somewhere near there is [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. Other locations include a building containing a [[The Classroom|classroom]], used for multiple purposes by most of the characters, [[the Office]] where many of the characters work, and the [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow Stand]], a once-popular haunt for Homestar.

The toon [[Summer Short Shorts]] features a sequence with [[Pom Pom]] that reveals that Bubs' Concession Stand, as well as a dense forest, is very near [[Strong Badia]]. A similar forest can be seen in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. However, the Pom Pom short depicts the forest and Bubs' with Strong Badia set in between them, whereas Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon shows Bubs' on the edge of the forest with no Strong Badia to be seen. This forest may or may not be the [[Spooky Woods]] that is usually seen at night in Halloween-themed episodes.

''[[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]]'' features a map of Free Country, USA, but eschews any sense of proper geography, in favor of allowing the player to move the various landmarks around the landscape to their liking.

===Characters' Homes===

As with Free Country's locations, the homes of different characters do not exist in rigidly established locations. With the exception of Coach Z's locker room and [[The Cheat|The Cheat's]] home (which is also [[The King of Town]]'s grill and therefore always near [[The King of Town's castle]]), [[Marzipan's house]], [[Homestar Runner's House|Homestar's house]], and the [[house of the Brothers Strong]], as well as the King's castle itself are all found in locations that have no clear geographical relation to each other.

Some clues exist concerning this, however. In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]], Strong Bad (as Cableman Jorge) asks Marzipan to buy a "hundred-foot spool of coaxial cable" in an attempt to get free cable service; this would imply the two houses are rather close to each other. In [[The King of Town DVD Commentary]], Strong Bad claims that The King of Town does not live in the castle, but in a "run down and creepy" "two bedroom job... next door" to him, although this was probably slanderous. Also, the similar designs of the exteriors of Marzipan's and Homestar's houses may be a hint that they were built from the same blueprints, as houses within a development often are. In the email [[unnatural]], a gigantic [[Bubs]] silhouette is seen walking from a silhouette of Strong Badia to The King of Town's castle, making it in several steps. This suggests that the castle is actually very close to Strong Badia.

==Flora and Fauna==

The flora of the land is somewhat sparse. Though individual trees are seldom seen up close in Free Country, they are presented as being [[Wikipedia:deciduous|deciduous]] as opposed to [[Wikipedia:conifer|evergreen]] (other than [[Decemberween]] trees), evidenced by the barren branches seen during Free Country's autumn. Shrubs and the occasional bush make appearances from time to time; some bushes have been known to have [[Senor Cardgage]] emerge from them in some instances, though these events are not considered dangerous so much as they are creepy. Flowers are incredibly rare and have only been seen in a couple of cartoons.

Fauna is in even shorter supply. Save for the [[Sea Creatures#Fish|fish]] in the pond, a few [[Bugs|crickets]], [[bees]], at least one [[Fat Bluebird|bird]] (others have been heard), [[The Bug|fly]] (some were seen at other places, including the trash can in [[invisibility]]), and [[Gavin|cockroach]], plus the characters themselves, no other animal life has yet been seen in Free Country, USA.

[[The King of Town]] at one point had [[The King of Town's Sheep|sheep]]. Whether he still owns them or ate them all is open to debate. It was at one time rumored that a [[Multi-Function Dragon|dragon]] menaced the castle, but even if he really existed, a story line shows it being slain.

==Politics==
[[Image:The KoTs Castle Grand.PNG|thumb|150px|The King of Town's Castle]]
Free Country appears at first glance to be a [[Wikipedia:monarchy|monarchy]] since it is nominally ruled by [[The King of Town]]. However, since Free Country is a [[Wikipedia:municipality|municipality]] and not a kingdom, the King of Town would technically be a [[Wikipedia:lord|lord]]. As well, the self-conferred sovereign's reign is not recognized by the populace. Therefore, Free Country could be considered to be in a state of [[Wikipedia:Anarchy|anarchy]], where there is no accepted centralized government but the members of the community co-exist with loosely established rules that maintain order.

To this end, Free Country can muster a meager police force consisting of [[Homestar Runner]], [[Pom Pom]], [[Coach Z]], and [[Bubs]] to ensure that anyone engaged in criminal behavior (to date, only [[Strong Bad]] and [[The Cheat]]) are [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|placed firmly]] in [[jail]] (a large cardboard box). Since there is no need for an army (nor a government to stand one up), Free Country has no official military. It is, however, home to the [[Homestarmy]], a meager militia that includes a [[Frank Bennedetto|popcorn machine]] and is led by Homestar Runner. The Homestarmy once attempted to conquer Strong Badia (see below), but appears to represent no cohesive political movement (other than expressing discontent stemming from "playing second fiddle to a two-bit [[wrestleman]] and his yellow dog"). The King of Town has expressed an intention to exercise actual power, going so far as to mobilize [[The Municipality|his own military force]] headed up by [[The Poopsmith]], as seen in [[disconnected]].

Besides the King's castle (which would be the seat of government if the King's rule had any legitimacy), there is a different building containing a [[smoky office]] which has been used for various purposes, including a [[The Interview|newsroom]], [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|police station]], and a set for the ''[[Dangeresque (film series)|Dangeresque]]'' films.

The name and the currency used may imply that this town is in the United States of America, and in [[trading cards]] Strong Bad makes reference to himself "here in the states" when addressing a Canadian writer. Yet any further details, regarding what state or town "Free Country" is in is never mentioned. They may have to pay taxes, however, as evidenced by [[A Decemberween Pageant]] and [[Arcade Game]].

===Strong Badia===
[[Image:Strongbadia.png|thumb|150px|Strong Badia]]
Within Free Country's borders, the territory of [[Strong Badia]] exists as an autonomous enclave. Strong Badia has a [[flag day|flag]], a [[Strong Badia National Anthem|national anthem]], and has even had to [[The Battle of Strong Badia|defend its autonomy]] from [[Homestarmy|outside aggression]], as seen in [[army]]. Although Strong Bad said that Strong Badia doesn't have/need an army, the local gang, [[On Point Kings]], have transformed from being a simple group of guys hanging around to a band of shady <strike> missionaries</strike> mercenaries that specialize in black ops, brown ops, and the occasional beige op. Whether or not Strong Badia is a "real" country is open to debate, since the permanent population of Strong Badia is a [[tire]] and it's only the size of a backyard. A few email senders seem to call Free Country by this name, presumably because the characters talk about Strong Badia more often than Free Country. However, Strong Bad specifically addressed this issue in [[keep cool]], limiting the borders of Strong Badia to the empty lot.

==Other Territories==

Mentioned from time to time (and seen only via the depicted map) are other territories outside Free Country. If the circuitous path of Homestar's [[In Search of the Yello Dello|journey]] to [[Potamia]] for [[The Yello Dello]] is to be believed, Free Country borders the territory of [[Far Off Lands]]. Very little, if anything, is known about these territories or their relation to Free Country, although [[Prance]] is known to make at least one [[Hairstyle Runner|Homestar Runner-related product]].

According to the original Characters page and [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]], [[The Brothers Strong]] come from a land called Parts Unknown.

Strong Bad claims to have a secret family (surnamed Mudgeman) in a community named Broiter Grove. If there is any shred of truth to this supposition, it can be assumed this community is near Free Country, USA, as Strong Bad is clearly without a working car.

==Economics==

The economics of Free Country are as ambiguous as the locations and politics of the territory. The local currency is [[Wikipedia:Federal_Reserve_notes|U.S. dollars]], although this official currency is augmented by a strong barter system that allows trade of goods and services (further suggesting that the government has no central banking power); most local commerce occurs at [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. Pencil shavings have been accepted by [[Bubs]] at least twice, in [[lackey]] and [[secret identity]]. Also, in a Easter Egg in [[colonization]], Homestar declares that 'Dirty [[Diapers]]' were to no longer be considered legal tender. In the email [[flag day]] a coin is visible that resembles a quarter. It is the same color, appears to be the same size, and has a face and words on both sides of it as well as words on the top and bottom of the coin. The date on it would be on the wrong side, though. The face on this coin is Strong Bad's. This implies that it is Strong Badian money, which implies Strong Badia is its own country. Strong Bad could be making this coin up because it has some of the words of the song he is currently singing printed on it. It seems that there is some crabbing industry, as there are crab traps at the wharf (which often claim baby seals), even though this supposed wharf has never been seen.

Bubs' Concession Stand is known to accept these forms of currency:
*Cash
*Money
*Cash Money
*Pencil Shavings (added to the sign by the Cheat)
[[Image:Bubs Last Stand.PNG|thumb|150px|Bubs' Concession Stand]]

It is also unclear as to how rent or mortgages on the houses owned by Free Country residents is paid. [[Strong Bad]] mentions in [[colonization]] that he had to give [[Bubs]] his first and last month's rent deposits, but other than that, no other characters have mentioned how or when they pay rent.
===Employment===
:''Main article: [[Occupations]]''
Bubs works at his stand as a general fix-it man. He has also been seen as a mechanical worker at [[The Office]], and as a bartender at [[Club Technochocolate]]. [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]], [[Strong Bad]] (though Homestar and Strong Bad apparently took their athletic careers more seriously at one time), [[The Cheat]] (when not doing freelance Flash work), and [[Pom Pom]] work in some kind of an office, at least occasionally. Homestar also hosts [[The Show]]. [[Strong Bad]], in addition, had a "part, part, part, part, very part time job" as a giant [[Tragic Clown Dog]] mascot at [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] in [[part-time job]]. He quit that job, however, when he realized that he needed to rush back to Marzipan's house to finish his email before the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] lost its battery charge. [[Strong Mad]] appears to work as a bouncer at [[Club Technochocolate]]. [[Coach Z]] is presumably some kind of a coach and a gym class teacher; he has also been seen working as a custodian at the office and as a [[Drive-Thru Whale|mascot]] for [[Blubb-O's]] restaurant. [[The King of Town]] employs [[The Poopsmith]] for reasons he does not care to disclose as well as a [[The Little Chef Guy|chef]], a [[The Blacksmith|blacksmith]], a [[The Hornblower|hornblower]], a [[The Cleric|cleric]], and a [[The Knight|knight]]. Marzipan, The Cheat, and Strong Mad are in a band named [[Cool Tapes]], which tours and sells 7's for [[pi]] dollars. Marzipan additionally runs a kindergarten class which includes Homestar, [[Homsar]] and [[Strong Mad]]. [[Senor Cardgage]] has had several shady jobs, such as a mortgage seller, owner of an online e-niversity, and lastly, with a somewhat stable job as an usher at the local [[The Movie Theater|theater]]. It has not been revealed whether the remaining characters have jobs.

==Free Country Through Time==

In addition to its current, contemporary depiction, Free Country has been shown in the past and possibly in the future.
[[Image:1936field.png|thumb|150px|Old-Timey Free Country]]
===Old-Timey Free Country===

In the [[Old-Timey|1930s]], Free Country was characterized by dirt roads, picket fences, carnival tents, antiquated Industrial Revolution-era factories, and even a [[Cholera Acres Cemetary|graveyard]], only the latter of which may have survived the passage of time. As with the rest of the USA during this time period, Free Country was [[Wikipedia:Great Depression|economically depressed]], with the population being forced to subsist on dry meal, water soup, and parsnips. Commerce, such as it was, was located at a [[Parsnip Depot|dilapidated depot]].

There was a growing, through sponsorship funds, radio (name still unknown) which had a drama - "The Fish Was Delish Progrum", in which Sir Strong Bad already was building up his showman career.

And, though there is some debate as to whether or not Free Country was still under [[Wikipedia:Prohibition|Prohibition]] during this time period, some residents enjoyed the occasional nip of [[Wikipedia:Alcoholic beverage|hooch]] regardless.

[[Image:Freepetrydishusa.PNG|thumb|right|150px|Home to a bunch of plucky parameciums]]

===Free Petry Dish USA===
In the email [[highschool]], Strong Bad claims that the entirety of Free Country, USA was, in the past, merely on a petri dish, with all its inhabitants being single-cell organisms. However, considering his purported "unphotographic memory", it's unlikely that such a place ever truly existed.
[[Image:planetk.png|thumb|150px|20X6 Free Country]]

===Futuristic Free Country?===

In the futuristic year [[20X6]], Free Country may or may not be one and the same as [[Planet K]], which looks much like the current Free Country. If so, Free Country will grow to feature significantly more architecture to the extent of having a full city (a quality the territory currently lacks). Nothing is yet known about the economic or political state of this ultramodern version of Free Country, though there is a significantly higher frequency of fights and challenges faced by its residents, which include various robots. They appear to be located in the same region, however, as Strong Bad buries a time capsule that is later discovered by Stinkoman.

==Estimated Real-World Location==

Viewers of Homestar Runner have variously speculated about the "real" location of Free Country, USA, though it is generally assumed [[The Brothers Chaps]] prefer to leave its location undetermined.

Each time the world is seen from space, the shape of the United States is easily recognizable. The characters speak with American accents, type with American spelling, celebrate many American [[holidays]], and make references to elements of American culture (such as its [[presidents]]). Most obvious is the fact that "USA" is in the name. On a side note, America is widely known as a "free country." Therefore, it seems safe to conclude that Free Country, USA is somewhere in America. This may be the closest one can come to determining a location for Free Country, USA, as many of the following observations are contradictory to one another.

*The scene in the [[Theme Song Video]] where Homestar runs around the planet and a star appears on a United States map would lead one to believe it's possible that Free Country is somewhere in northern Nebraska.
*In the email [[radio]], the [[Crazy Go Nuts University|CGNU]] radio station's call letters are given as [[Radio Stations and Shows|WSBD]], as are "Numbitty 902's" WA3D FM. Real-world radio designations would place Free Country east of the Mississippi river.
*Free Country is likely in a northern latitude or high altitude given the snowy weather around [[Decemberween]].
*In the email [[anything]], Homestar refers to his two liter bottle of [[Mountain Dew]] as "soda", which is a term more used in the northeast and in the west. In parts of the Upper Midwest it is frequently called "pop".
*The Brothers Chaps themselves live in Atlanta, Georgia, making it possible that Free Country is located in the Southeast.
*In [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], Marzipan references baby seals and crab traps at the wharf, suggesting that Free Country is near the ocean, or at least a salt-water body.
**This might just show that there is a large lake nearby.
**This might just show that they import seals and crabs and trap them at a place called "the wharf."
*In [[Homestar vs. Other Little Girl]], Homestar claims he does ''not'' live in Texas.
*In the end of [[Where the Crap Are We?]], Homestar thinks he and Strong Bad are in Massachusetts, which would indicate that they are not from there.
*In [[Weclome Back]], [[Cool Tapes]] did a midwest tour, indicating that they may be from around there.
*In [[colonization]], [[Strong Bad]] and [[Bubs]] share some "cold Hardee's he had lying around", which implies that Free Country may be in the Eastern half of the USA (In the Western half of the US, "Hardee's" is called "Carl's Jr.").
*In the email [[keep cool]], the temperature was 98ºF, but in all the Decemberween episodes, there is snow, suggesting that Free Country is in a state where the climate varies greatly.
*In the email [[retirement]], [[Strong Bad]] tells the audience to "feast their Dust Bowl-ravaged eyes" on his show. This suggests that they might be in the Great Plains area.
*In [[Main Page 11]], Downloads shows a weather map of the eastern region of the United States, suggesting that Free Country, USA is in the eastern half of the USA.

== Trivia ==
*The [[Strong Bad Email]] [[flashback]] marked the first time that a character actually said the name "Free Country, USA." Homestar also said the name "Free Country, USA." in Episode 1 of [[Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People]].

[[Category: Places]]

Free Country, USA

2008-08-25T01:02:48Z

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| '''Language''' || [[Wikipedia:English language|English]]
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| '''Nominal Monarch''' || [[The King of Town]]
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| '''Population''' || [[Characters|21, at least]]
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| '''Currency''' || [[Wikipedia:United States Dollar|U.S. Dollar]] ([[Free Country, USA#Economics|probably]]) [[lackey|Pencil Shavings]] ([[Free Country, USA#Economics|sometimes]]).
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'''Free Country, USA''' (also spelled '''Free Country USA''' and '''FCUSA'''), is where the [[Homestar Runner universe]] is centered. All of the [[:Category:Main Characters|main characters]] live, work, and play here.

==Geographical Features and Locations==
[[Image:The Empty Field Of Green.png|thumb|The thriving hub that is Free Country, USA]]

Free Country, USA features a verdant [[The Field|field]] that typically serves as a central link between the various features of the landscape. At the center of the field itself is [[The Stick]], which functions as a landmark and a meeting place for [[Strong Bad]] and whomever he chooses to meet there. The edge of the field is lined with what appear to be trees. They represent the edge of Free Country. Probably also somewhere in or near the field is a stream with a picturesque [[The Stone Bridge|stone bridge]]. [[Date Nite|Once]], Strong Bad and [[Homestar Runner]] rocketed their [[USS Flirtini|cardboard submarine]] backwards along this stream, ending up in a large, open body of water. This may or may not be [[The Pond|the pond]] Strong Bad and [[Coach Z]] has been seen fishing in, or the sea; [[Marzipan]] once [[Homestar Presents: Presents|mentioned]] a location she referred to as "the wharfs", featuring crab traps and trapped baby seals. Rounding out the natural features are mountains (usually seen only from a distance). The foothills of these mountains are likely located in the nearby [[Spooky Woods|woods]], as they contain at least one [[cliff]]. There is also one "hot spot", [[Carrot and Kazoo Hill]].

Specific locations in Free Country are treated with a certain ambiguity. Somewhere at the edge of The Field is the [[The Athletic Field|Athletic Field]]; logically, [[Coach Z's locker room]] is near the Athletic Field. Somewhere near there is [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. Other locations include a "Town Hall" (see below), [[the Office]] where many of the characters work, and the [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow Stand]], a once-popular haunt for Homestar.

The toon [[Summer Short Shorts]] features a sequence with [[Pom Pom]] that reveals that Bubs' Concession Stand, as well as a dense forest, is very near [[Strong Badia]]. A similar forest can be seen in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. However, the Pom Pom short depicts the forest and Bubs' with Strong Badia set in between them, whereas Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon shows Bubs' on the edge of the forest with no Strong Badia to be seen. This forest may or may not be the [[Spooky Woods]] that is usually seen at night in Halloween-themed episodes.

''[[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]]'' features a map of Free Country, USA, but eschews any sense of proper geography, in favor of allowing the player to move the various landmarks around the landscape to their liking.

===Characters' Homes===

As with Free Country's locations, the homes of different characters do not exist in rigidly established locations. With the exception of Coach Z's locker room and [[The Cheat|The Cheat's]] home (which is also [[The King of Town]]'s grill and therefore always near [[The King of Town's castle]]), [[Marzipan's house]], [[Homestar Runner's House|Homestar's house]], and the [[house of the Brothers Strong]], as well as the King's castle itself are all found in locations that have no clear geographical relation to each other.

Some clues exist concerning this, however. In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]], Strong Bad (as Cableman Jorge) asks Marzipan to buy a "hundred-foot spool of coaxial cable" in an attempt to get free cable service; this would imply the two houses are rather close to each other. In [[The King of Town DVD Commentary]], Strong Bad claims that The King of Town does not live in the castle, but in a "run down and creepy" "two bedroom job... next door" to him, although this was probably slanderous. Also, the similar designs of the exteriors of Marzipan's and Homestar's houses may be a hint that they were built from the same blueprints, as houses within a development often are. In the email [[unnatural]], a gigantic [[Bubs]] silhouette is seen walking from a silhouette of Strong Badia to The King of Town's castle, making it in several steps. This suggests that the castle is actually very close to Strong Badia.

==Flora and Fauna==

The flora of the land is somewhat sparse. Though individual trees are seldom seen up close in Free Country, they are presented as being [[Wikipedia:deciduous|deciduous]] as opposed to [[Wikipedia:conifer|evergreen]] (other than [[Decemberween]] trees), evidenced by the barren branches seen during Free Country's autumn. Shrubs and the occasional bush make appearances from time to time; some bushes have been known to have [[Senor Cardgage]] emerge from them in some instances, though these events are not considered dangerous so much as they are creepy. Flowers are incredibly rare and have only been seen in a couple of cartoons.

Fauna is in even shorter supply. Save for the [[Sea Creatures#Fish|fish]] in the pond, a few [[Bugs|crickets]], [[bees]], at least one [[Fat Bluebird|bird]] (others have been heard), [[The Bug|fly]] (some were seen at other places, including the trash can in [[invisibility]]), and [[Gavin|cockroach]], plus the characters themselves, no other animal life has yet been seen in Free Country, USA.

[[The King of Town]] at one point had [[The King of Town's Sheep|sheep]]. Whether he still owns them or ate them all is open to debate. It was at one time rumored that a [[Multi-Function Dragon|dragon]] menaced the castle, but even if he really existed, a story line shows it being slain.

==Politics==
[[Image:The KoTs Castle Grand.PNG|thumb|150px|The King of Town's Castle]]
Free Country appears at first glance to be a [[Wikipedia:monarchy|monarchy]] since it is nominally ruled by [[The King of Town]]. However, since Free Country is a [[Wikipedia:municipality|municipality]] and not a kingdom, the King of Town would technically be a [[Wikipedia:lord|lord]]. As well, the self-conferred sovereign's reign is not recognized by the populace. Therefore, Free Country could be considered to be in a state of [[Wikipedia:Anarchy|anarchy]], where there is no accepted centralized government but the members of the community co-exist with loosely established rules that maintain order.

To this end, Free Country can muster a meager police force consisting of [[Homestar Runner]], [[Pom Pom]], [[Coach Z]], and [[Bubs]] to ensure that anyone engaged in criminal behavior (to date, only [[Strong Bad]] and [[The Cheat]]) are [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|placed firmly]] in [[jail]] (a large cardboard box). Since there is no need for an army (nor a government to stand one up), Free Country has no official military. It is, however, home to the [[Homestarmy]], a meager militia that includes a [[Frank Bennedetto|popcorn machine]] and is led by Homestar Runner. The Homestarmy once attempted to conquer Strong Badia (see below), but appears to represent no cohesive political movement (other than expressing discontent stemming from "playing second fiddle to a two-bit [[wrestleman]] and his yellow dog"). The King of Town has expressed an intention to exercise actual power, going so far as to mobilize [[The Municipality|his own military force]] headed up by [[The Poopsmith]], as seen in [[disconnected]].

Besides the King's castle (which would be the seat of government if the King's rule had any legitimacy), there is a different building containing a [[smoky office]] which has been used for various purposes, including a [[The Interview|newsroom]], [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|police station]], and a set for the ''[[Dangeresque (film series)|Dangeresque]]'' films.

The name and the currency used may imply that this town is in the United States of America, and in [[trading cards]] Strong Bad makes reference to himself "here in the states" when addressing a Canadian writer. Yet any further details, regarding what state or town "Free Country" is in is never mentioned. They may have to pay taxes, however, as evidenced by [[A Decemberween Pageant]] and [[Arcade Game]].

===Strong Badia===
[[Image:Strongbadia.png|thumb|150px|Strong Badia]]
Within Free Country's borders, the territory of [[Strong Badia]] exists as an autonomous enclave. Strong Badia has a [[flag day|flag]], a [[Strong Badia National Anthem|national anthem]], and has even had to [[The Battle of Strong Badia|defend its autonomy]] from [[Homestarmy|outside aggression]], as seen in [[army]]. Although Strong Bad said that Strong Badia doesn't have/need an army, the local gang, [[On Point Kings]], have transformed from being a simple group of guys hanging around to a band of shady <strike> missionaries</strike> mercenaries that specialize in black ops, brown ops, and the occasional beige op. Whether or not Strong Badia is a "real" country is open to debate, since the permanent population of Strong Badia is a [[tire]] and it's only the size of a backyard. A few email senders seem to call Free Country by this name, presumably because the characters talk about Strong Badia more often than Free Country. However, Strong Bad specifically addressed this issue in [[keep cool]], limiting the borders of Strong Badia to the empty lot.

==Other Territories==

Mentioned from time to time (and seen only via the depicted map) are other territories outside Free Country. If the circuitous path of Homestar's [[In Search of the Yello Dello|journey]] to [[Potamia]] for [[The Yello Dello]] is to be believed, Free Country borders the territory of [[Far Off Lands]]. Very little, if anything, is known about these territories or their relation to Free Country, although [[Prance]] is known to make at least one [[Hairstyle Runner|Homestar Runner-related product]].

According to the original Characters page and [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]], [[The Brothers Strong]] come from a land called Parts Unknown.

Strong Bad claims to have a secret family (surnamed Mudgeman) in a community named Broiter Grove. If there is any shred of truth to this supposition, it can be assumed this community is near Free Country, USA, as Strong Bad is clearly without a working car.

==Economics==

The economics of Free Country are as ambiguous as the locations and politics of the territory. The local currency is [[Wikipedia:Federal_Reserve_notes|U.S. dollars]], although this official currency is augmented by a strong barter system that allows trade of goods and services (further suggesting that the government has no central banking power); most local commerce occurs at [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. Pencil shavings have been accepted by [[Bubs]] at least twice, in [[lackey]] and [[secret identity]]. Also, in a Easter Egg in [[colonization]], Homestar declares that 'Dirty [[Diapers]]' were to no longer be considered legal tender. In the email [[flag day]] a coin is visible that resembles a quarter. It is the same color, appears to be the same size, and has a face and words on both sides of it as well as words on the top and bottom of the coin. The date on it would be on the wrong side, though. The face on this coin is Strong Bad's. This implies that it is Strong Badian money, which implies Strong Badia is its own country. Strong Bad could be making this coin up because it has some of the words of the song he is currently singing printed on it. It seems that there is some crabbing industry, as there are crab traps at the wharf (which often claim baby seals), even though this supposed wharf has never been seen.

Bubs' Concession Stand is known to accept these forms of currency:
*Cash
*Money
*Cash Money
*Pencil Shavings (added to the sign by the Cheat)
[[Image:Bubs Last Stand.PNG|thumb|150px|Bubs' Concession Stand]]

It is also unclear as to how rent or mortgages on the houses owned by Free Country residents is paid. [[Strong Bad]] mentions in [[colonization]] that he had to give [[Bubs]] his first and last month's rent deposits, but other than that, no other characters have mentioned how or when they pay rent.
===Employment===
:''Main article: [[Occupations]]''
Bubs works at his stand as a general fix-it man. He has also been seen as a mechanical worker at [[The Office]], and as a bartender at [[Club Technochocolate]]. [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]], [[Strong Bad]] (though Homestar and Strong Bad apparently took their athletic careers more seriously at one time), [[The Cheat]] (when not doing freelance Flash work), and [[Pom Pom]] work in some kind of an office, at least occasionally. Homestar also hosts [[The Show]]. [[Strong Bad]], in addition, had a "part, part, part, part, very part time job" as a giant [[Tragic Clown Dog]] mascot at [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] in [[part-time job]]. He quit that job, however, when he realized that he needed to rush back to Marzipan's house to finish his email before the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] lost its battery charge. [[Strong Mad]] appears to work as a bouncer at [[Club Technochocolate]]. [[Coach Z]] is presumably some kind of a coach and a gym class teacher; he has also been seen working as a custodian at the office and as a [[Drive-Thru Whale|mascot]] for [[Blubb-O's]] restaurant. [[The King of Town]] employs [[The Poopsmith]] for reasons he does not care to disclose as well as a [[The Little Chef Guy|chef]], a [[The Blacksmith|blacksmith]], a [[The Hornblower|hornblower]], a [[The Cleric|cleric]], and a [[The Knight|knight]]. Marzipan, The Cheat, and Strong Mad are in a band named [[Cool Tapes]], which tours and sells 7's for [[pi]] dollars. Marzipan additionally runs a kindergarten class which includes Homestar, [[Homsar]] and [[Strong Mad]]. [[Senor Cardgage]] has had several shady jobs, such as a mortgage seller, owner of an online e-niversity, and lastly, with a somewhat stable job as an usher at the local [[The Movie Theater|theater]]. It has not been revealed whether the remaining characters have jobs.

==Free Country Through Time==

In addition to its current, contemporary depiction, Free Country has been shown in the past and possibly in the future.
[[Image:1936field.png|thumb|150px|Old-Timey Free Country]]
===Old-Timey Free Country===

In the [[Old-Timey|1930s]], Free Country was characterized by dirt roads, picket fences, carnival tents, antiquated Industrial Revolution-era factories, and even a [[Cholera Acres Cemetary|graveyard]], only the latter of which may have survived the passage of time. As with the rest of the USA during this time period, Free Country was [[Wikipedia:Great Depression|economically depressed]], with the population being forced to subsist on dry meal, water soup, and parsnips. Commerce, such as it was, was located at a [[Parsnip Depot|dilapidated depot]].

There was a growing, through sponsorship funds, radio (name still unknown) which had a drama - "The Fish Was Delish Progrum", in which Sir Strong Bad already was building up his showman career.

And, though there is some debate as to whether or not Free Country was still under [[Wikipedia:Prohibition|Prohibition]] during this time period, some residents enjoyed the occasional nip of [[Wikipedia:Alcoholic beverage|hooch]] regardless.

[[Image:Freepetrydishusa.PNG|thumb|right|150px|Home to a bunch of plucky parameciums]]

===Free Petry Dish USA===
In the email [[highschool]], Strong Bad claims that the entirety of Free Country, USA was, in the past, merely on a petri dish, with all its inhabitants being single-cell organisms. However, considering his purported "unphotographic memory", it's unlikely that such a place ever truly existed.
[[Image:planetk.png|thumb|150px|20X6 Free Country]]

===Futuristic Free Country?===

In the futuristic year [[20X6]], Free Country may or may not be one and the same as [[Planet K]], which looks much like the current Free Country. If so, Free Country will grow to feature significantly more architecture to the extent of having a full city (a quality the territory currently lacks). Nothing is yet known about the economic or political state of this ultramodern version of Free Country, though there is a significantly higher frequency of fights and challenges faced by its residents, which include various robots. They appear to be located in the same region, however, as Strong Bad buries a time capsule that is later discovered by Stinkoman.

==Estimated Real-World Location==

Viewers of Homestar Runner have variously speculated about the "real" location of Free Country, USA, though it is generally assumed [[The Brothers Chaps]] prefer to leave its location undetermined.

Each time the world is seen from space, the shape of the United States is easily recognizable. The characters speak with American accents, type with American spelling, celebrate many American [[holidays]], and make references to elements of American culture (such as its [[presidents]]). Most obvious is the fact that "USA" is in the name. On a side note, America is widely known as a "free country." Therefore, it seems safe to conclude that Free Country, USA is somewhere in America. This may be the closest one can come to determining a location for Free Country, USA, as many of the following observations are contradictory to one another.

*The scene in the [[Theme Song Video]] where Homestar runs around the planet and a star appears on a United States map would lead one to believe it's possible that Free Country is somewhere in northern Nebraska.
*In the email [[radio]], the [[Crazy Go Nuts University|CGNU]] radio station's call letters are given as [[Radio Stations and Shows|WSBD]], as are "Numbitty 902's" WA3D FM. Real-world radio designations would place Free Country east of the Mississippi river.
*Free Country is likely in a northern latitude or high altitude given the snowy weather around [[Decemberween]].
*In the email [[anything]], Homestar refers to his two liter bottle of [[Mountain Dew]] as "soda", which is a term more used in the northeast and in the west. In parts of the Upper Midwest it is frequently called "pop".
*The Brothers Chaps themselves live in Atlanta, Georgia, making it possible that Free Country is located in the Southeast.
*In [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], Marzipan references baby seals and crab traps at the wharf, suggesting that Free Country is near the ocean, or at least a salt-water body.
**This might just show that there is a large lake nearby.
**This might just show that they import seals and crabs and trap them at a place called "the wharf."
*In [[Homestar vs. Other Little Girl]], Homestar claims he does ''not'' live in Texas.
*In the end of [[Where the Crap Are We?]], Homestar thinks he and Strong Bad are in Massachusetts, which would indicate that they are not from there.
*In [[Weclome Back]], [[Cool Tapes]] did a midwest tour, indicating that they may be from around there.
*In [[colonization]], [[Strong Bad]] and [[Bubs]] share some "cold Hardee's he had lying around", which implies that Free Country may be in the Eastern half of the USA (In the Western half of the US, "Hardee's" is called "Carl's Jr.").
*In the email [[keep cool]], the temperature was 98ºF, but in all the Decemberween episodes, there is snow, suggesting that Free Country is in a state where the climate varies greatly.
*In the email [[retirement]], [[Strong Bad]] tells the audience to "feast their Dust Bowl-ravaged eyes" on his show. This suggests that they might be in the Great Plains area.
*In [[Main Page 11]], Downloads shows a weather map of the eastern region of the United States, suggesting that Free Country, USA is in the eastern half of the USA.

== Trivia ==
*The [[Strong Bad Email]] [[flashback]] marked the first time that a character actually said the name "Free Country, USA." Homestar also said the name "Free Country, USA." in Episode 1 of [[Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People]].

[[Category: Places]]

Free Country, USA

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| '''Language''' || [[Wikipedia:English language|English]]
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| '''Nominal Monarch''' || [[The King of Town]]
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| '''Population''' || [[Characters|21, at least]]
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| '''Currency''' || [[Wikipedia:United States Dollar|U.S. Dollar]] ([[Free Country, USA#Economics|probably]]) [[lackey|Pencil Shavings]] ([[Free Country, USA#Economics|sometimes]]).
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'''Free Country, USA''' (also spelled '''Free Country USA''' and '''FCUSA'''), is where the [[Homestar Runner universe]] is centered. All of the [[:Category:Main Characters|main characters]] live, work, and play here.

==Geographical Features and Locations==
[[Image:The Empty Field Of Green.png|thumb|The thriving hub that is Free Country, USA]]

Free Country, USA features a verdant [[The Field|field]] that typically serves as a central link between the various features of the landscape. At the center of the field itself is [[The Stick]], which functions as a landmark and a meeting place for [[Strong Bad]] and whomever he chooses to meet there. The edge of the field is lined with what appear to be trees. They represent the edge of Free Country. Probably also somewhere in or near the field is a stream with a picturesque [[The Stone Bridge|stone bridge]]. [[Date Nite|Once]], Strong Bad and [[Homestar Runner]] rocketed their [[USS Flirtini|cardboard submarine]] backwards along this stream, ending up in a large, open body of water. This may or may not be [[The Pond|the pond]] Strong Bad and [[Coach Z]] has been seen fishing in, or the sea; [[Marzipan]] once [[Homestar Presents: Presents|mentioned]] a location she referred to as "the wharfs", featuring crab traps and trapped baby seals. Rounding out the natural features are mountains (usually seen only from a distance). The foothills of these mountains are likely located in the nearby [[Spooky Woods|woods]], as they contain at least one [[cliff]]. There is also one "hot spot", [[Carrot and Kazoo Hill]].

Specific locations in Free Country are treated with a certain ambiguity. Somewhere at the edge of The Field is the [[The Athletic Field|Athletic Field]]; logically, [[Coach Z's locker room]] is near the Athletic Field. Somewhere near there is [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. Other locations include a "Town Hall" (see below), [[the Office]] where many of the characters work, and the [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow Stand]], a once-popular haunt for Homestar.

The toon [[Summer Short Shorts]] features a sequence with [[Pom Pom]] that reveals that Bubs' Concession Stand, as well as a dense forest, is very near [[Strong Badia]]. A similar forest can be seen in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. However, the Pom Pom short depicts the forest and Bubs' with Strong Badia set in between them, whereas [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]] shows Bubs' on the edge of the forest with no Strong Badia to be seen. This forest may or may not be the [[Spooky Woods]] that is usually seen at night in Halloween-themed episodes.

''[[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]]'' features a map of Free Country, USA, but eschews any sense of proper geography, in favor of allowing the player to move the various landmarks around the landscape to their liking.

===Characters' Homes===

As with Free Country's locations, the homes of different characters do not exist in rigidly established locations. With the exception of Coach Z's locker room and [[The Cheat|The Cheat's]] home (which is also [[The King of Town]]'s grill and therefore always near [[The King of Town's castle]]), [[Marzipan's house]], [[Homestar Runner's House|Homestar's house]], and the [[house of the Brothers Strong]], as well as the King's castle itself are all found in locations that have no clear geographical relation to each other.

Some clues exist concerning this, however. In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]], Strong Bad (as Cableman Jorge) asks Marzipan to buy a "hundred-foot spool of coaxial cable" in an attempt to get free cable service; this would imply the two houses are rather close to each other. In [[The King of Town DVD Commentary]], Strong Bad claims that The King of Town does not live in the castle, but in a "run down and creepy" "two bedroom job... next door" to him, although this was probably slanderous. Also, the similar designs of the exteriors of Marzipan's and Homestar's houses may be a hint that they were built from the same blueprints, as houses within a development often are. In the email [[unnatural]], a gigantic [[Bubs]] silhouette is seen walking from a silhouette of Strong Badia to The King of Town's castle, making it in several steps. This suggests that the castle is actually very close to Strong Badia.

==Flora and Fauna==

The flora of the land is somewhat sparse. Though individual trees are seldom seen up close in Free Country, they are presented as being [[Wikipedia:deciduous|deciduous]] as opposed to [[Wikipedia:conifer|evergreen]] (other than [[Decemberween]] trees), evidenced by the barren branches seen during Free Country's autumn. Shrubs and the occasional bush make appearances from time to time; some bushes have been known to have [[Senor Cardgage]] emerge from them in some instances, though these events are not considered dangerous so much as they are creepy. Flowers are incredibly rare and have only been seen in a couple of cartoons.

Fauna is in even shorter supply. Save for the [[Sea Creatures#Fish|fish]] in the pond, a few [[Bugs|crickets]], [[bees]], at least one [[Fat Bluebird|bird]] (others have been heard), [[The Bug|fly]] (some were seen at other places, including the trash can in [[invisibility]]), and [[Gavin|cockroach]], plus the characters themselves, no other animal life has yet been seen in Free Country, USA.

[[The King of Town]] at one point had [[The King of Town's Sheep|sheep]]. Whether he still owns them or ate them all is open to debate. It was at one time rumored that a [[Multi-Function Dragon|dragon]] menaced the castle, but even if he really existed, a story line shows it being slain.

==Politics==
[[Image:The KoTs Castle Grand.PNG|thumb|150px|The King of Town's Castle]]
Free Country appears at first glance to be a [[Wikipedia:monarchy|monarchy]] since it is nominally ruled by [[The King of Town]]. However, since Free Country is a [[Wikipedia:municipality|municipality]] and not a kingdom, the King of Town would technically be a [[Wikipedia:lord|lord]]. As well, the self-conferred sovereign's reign is not recognized by the populace. Therefore, Free Country could be considered to be in a state of [[Wikipedia:Anarchy|anarchy]], where there is no accepted centralized government but the members of the community co-exist with loosely established rules that maintain order.

To this end, Free Country can muster a meager police force consisting of [[Homestar Runner]], [[Pom Pom]], [[Coach Z]], and [[Bubs]] to ensure that anyone engaged in criminal behavior (to date, only [[Strong Bad]] and [[The Cheat]]) are [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|placed firmly]] in [[jail]] (a large cardboard box). Since there is no need for an army (nor a government to stand one up), Free Country has no official military. It is, however, home to the [[Homestarmy]], a meager militia that includes a [[Frank Bennedetto|popcorn machine]] and is led by Homestar Runner. The Homestarmy once attempted to conquer Strong Badia (see below), but appears to represent no cohesive political movement (other than expressing discontent stemming from "playing second fiddle to a two-bit [[wrestleman]] and his yellow dog"). The King of Town has expressed an intention to exercise actual power, going so far as to mobilize [[The Municipality|his own military force]] headed up by [[The Poopsmith]], as seen in [[disconnected]].

Besides the King's castle (which would be the seat of government if the King's rule had any legitimacy), there is a different building containing a [[smoky office]] which has been used for various purposes, including a [[The Interview|newsroom]], [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|police station]], and a set for the ''[[Dangeresque (film series)|Dangeresque]]'' films.

The name and the currency used may imply that this town is in the United States of America, and in [[trading cards]] Strong Bad makes reference to himself "here in the states" when addressing a Canadian writer. Yet any further details, regarding what state or town "Free Country" is in is never mentioned. They may have to pay taxes, however, as evidenced by [[A Decemberween Pageant]] and [[Arcade Game]].

===Strong Badia===
[[Image:Strongbadia.png|thumb|150px|Strong Badia]]
Within Free Country's borders, the territory of [[Strong Badia]] exists as an autonomous enclave. Strong Badia has a [[flag day|flag]], a [[Strong Badia National Anthem|national anthem]], and has even had to [[The Battle of Strong Badia|defend its autonomy]] from [[Homestarmy|outside aggression]], as seen in [[army]]. Although Strong Bad said that Strong Badia doesn't have/need an army, the local gang, [[On Point Kings]], have transformed from being a simple group of guys hanging around to a band of shady <strike> missionaries</strike> mercenaries that specialize in black ops, brown ops, and the occasional beige op. Whether or not Strong Badia is a "real" country is open to debate, since the permanent population of Strong Badia is a [[tire]] and it's only the size of a backyard. A few email senders seem to call Free Country by this name, presumably because the characters talk about Strong Badia more often than Free Country. However, Strong Bad specifically addressed this issue in [[keep cool]], limiting the borders of Strong Badia to the empty lot.

==Other Territories==

Mentioned from time to time (and seen only via the depicted map) are other territories outside Free Country. If the circuitous path of Homestar's [[In Search of the Yello Dello|journey]] to [[Potamia]] for [[The Yello Dello]] is to be believed, Free Country borders the territory of [[Far Off Lands]]. Very little, if anything, is known about these territories or their relation to Free Country, although [[Prance]] is known to make at least one [[Hairstyle Runner|Homestar Runner-related product]].

According to the original Characters page and [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]], [[The Brothers Strong]] come from a land called Parts Unknown.

Strong Bad claims to have a secret family (surnamed Mudgeman) in a community named Broiter Grove. If there is any shred of truth to this supposition, it can be assumed this community is near Free Country, USA, as Strong Bad is clearly without a working car.

==Economics==

The economics of Free Country are as ambiguous as the locations and politics of the territory. The local currency is [[Wikipedia:Federal_Reserve_notes|U.S. dollars]], although this official currency is augmented by a strong barter system that allows trade of goods and services (further suggesting that the government has no central banking power); most local commerce occurs at [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. Pencil shavings have been accepted by [[Bubs]] at least twice, in [[lackey]] and [[secret identity]]. Also, in a Easter Egg in [[colonization]], Homestar declares that 'Dirty [[Diapers]]' were to no longer be considered legal tender. In the email [[flag day]] a coin is visible that resembles a quarter. It is the same color, appears to be the same size, and has a face and words on both sides of it as well as words on the top and bottom of the coin. The date on it would be on the wrong side, though. The face on this coin is Strong Bad's. This implies that it is Strong Badian money, which implies Strong Badia is its own country. Strong Bad could be making this coin up because it has some of the words of the song he is currently singing printed on it. It seems that there is some crabbing industry, as there are crab traps at the wharf (which often claim baby seals), even though this supposed wharf has never been seen.

Bubs' Concession Stand is known to accept these forms of currency:
*Cash
*Money
*Cash Money
*Pencil Shavings (added to the sign by the Cheat)
[[Image:Bubs Last Stand.PNG|thumb|150px|Bubs' Concession Stand]]

It is also unclear as to how rent or mortgages on the houses owned by Free Country residents is paid. [[Strong Bad]] mentions in [[colonization]] that he had to give [[Bubs]] his first and last month's rent deposits, but other than that, no other characters have mentioned how or when they pay rent.
===Employment===
:''Main article: [[Occupations]]''
Bubs works at his stand as a general fix-it man. He has also been seen as a mechanical worker at [[The Office]], and as a bartender at [[Club Technochocolate]]. [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]], [[Strong Bad]] (though Homestar and Strong Bad apparently took their athletic careers more seriously at one time), [[The Cheat]] (when not doing freelance Flash work), and [[Pom Pom]] work in some kind of an office, at least occasionally. Homestar also hosts [[The Show]]. [[Strong Bad]], in addition, had a "part, part, part, part, very part time job" as a giant [[Tragic Clown Dog]] mascot at [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] in [[part-time job]]. He quit that job, however, when he realized that he needed to rush back to Marzipan's house to finish his email before the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] lost its battery charge. [[Strong Mad]] appears to work as a bouncer at [[Club Technochocolate]]. [[Coach Z]] is presumably some kind of a coach and a gym class teacher; he has also been seen working as a custodian at the office and as a [[Drive-Thru Whale|mascot]] for [[Blubb-O's]] restaurant. [[The King of Town]] employs [[The Poopsmith]] for reasons he does not care to disclose as well as a [[The Little Chef Guy|chef]], a [[The Blacksmith|blacksmith]], a [[The Hornblower|hornblower]], a [[The Cleric|cleric]], and a [[The Knight|knight]]. Marzipan, The Cheat, and Strong Mad are in a band named [[Cool Tapes]], which tours and sells 7's for [[pi]] dollars. Marzipan additionally runs a kindergarten class which includes Homestar, [[Homsar]] and [[Strong Mad]]. [[Senor Cardgage]] has had several shady jobs, such as a mortgage seller, owner of an online e-niversity, and lastly, with a somewhat stable job as an usher at the local [[The Movie Theater|theater]]. It has not been revealed whether the remaining characters have jobs.

==Free Country Through Time==

In addition to its current, contemporary depiction, Free Country has been shown in the past and possibly in the future.
[[Image:1936field.png|thumb|150px|Old-Timey Free Country]]
===Old-Timey Free Country===

In the [[Old-Timey|1930s]], Free Country was characterized by dirt roads, picket fences, carnival tents, antiquated Industrial Revolution-era factories, and even a [[Cholera Acres Cemetary|graveyard]], only the latter of which may have survived the passage of time. As with the rest of the USA during this time period, Free Country was [[Wikipedia:Great Depression|economically depressed]], with the population being forced to subsist on dry meal, water soup, and parsnips. Commerce, such as it was, was located at a [[Parsnip Depot|dilapidated depot]].

There was a growing, through sponsorship funds, radio (name still unknown) which had a drama - "The Fish Was Delish Progrum", in which Sir Strong Bad already was building up his showman career.

And, though there is some debate as to whether or not Free Country was still under [[Wikipedia:Prohibition|Prohibition]] during this time period, some residents enjoyed the occasional nip of [[Wikipedia:Alcoholic beverage|hooch]] regardless.

[[Image:Freepetrydishusa.PNG|thumb|right|150px|Home to a bunch of plucky parameciums]]

===Free Petry Dish USA===
In the email [[highschool]], Strong Bad claims that the entirety of Free Country, USA was, in the past, merely on a petri dish, with all its inhabitants being single-cell organisms. However, considering his purported "unphotographic memory", it's unlikely that such a place ever truly existed.
[[Image:planetk.png|thumb|150px|20X6 Free Country]]

===Futuristic Free Country?===

In the futuristic year [[20X6]], Free Country may or may not be one and the same as [[Planet K]], which looks much like the current Free Country. If so, Free Country will grow to feature significantly more architecture to the extent of having a full city (a quality the territory currently lacks). Nothing is yet known about the economic or political state of this ultramodern version of Free Country, though there is a significantly higher frequency of fights and challenges faced by its residents, which include various robots. They appear to be located in the same region, however, as Strong Bad buries a time capsule that is later discovered by Stinkoman.

==Estimated Real-World Location==

Viewers of Homestar Runner have variously speculated about the "real" location of Free Country, USA, though it is generally assumed [[The Brothers Chaps]] prefer to leave its location undetermined.

Each time the world is seen from space, the shape of the United States is easily recognizable. The characters speak with American accents, type with American spelling, celebrate many American [[holidays]], and make references to elements of American culture (such as its [[presidents]]). Most obvious is the fact that "USA" is in the name. On a side note, America is widely known as a "free country." Therefore, it seems safe to conclude that Free Country, USA is somewhere in America. This may be the closest one can come to determining a location for Free Country, USA, as many of the following observations are contradictory to one another.

*The scene in the [[Theme Song Video]] where Homestar runs around the planet and a star appears on a United States map would lead one to believe it's possible that Free Country is somewhere in northern Nebraska.
*In the email [[radio]], the [[Crazy Go Nuts University|CGNU]] radio station's call letters are given as [[Radio Stations and Shows|WSBD]], as are "Numbitty 902's" WA3D FM. Real-world radio designations would place Free Country east of the Mississippi river.
*Free Country is likely in a northern latitude or high altitude given the snowy weather around [[Decemberween]].
*In the email [[anything]], Homestar refers to his two liter bottle of [[Mountain Dew]] as "soda", which is a term more used in the northeast and in the west. In parts of the Upper Midwest it is frequently called "pop".
*The Brothers Chaps themselves live in Atlanta, Georgia, making it possible that Free Country is located in the Southeast.
*In [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], Marzipan references baby seals and crab traps at the wharf, suggesting that Free Country is near the ocean, or at least a salt-water body.
**This might just show that there is a large lake nearby.
**This might just show that they import seals and crabs and trap them at a place called "the wharf."
*In [[Homestar vs. Other Little Girl]], Homestar claims he does ''not'' live in Texas.
*In the end of [[Where the Crap Are We?]], Homestar thinks he and Strong Bad are in Massachusetts, which would indicate that they are not from there.
*In [[Weclome Back]], [[Cool Tapes]] did a midwest tour, indicating that they may be from around there.
*In [[colonization]], [[Strong Bad]] and [[Bubs]] share some "cold Hardee's he had lying around", which implies that Free Country may be in the Eastern half of the USA (In the Western half of the US, "Hardee's" is called "Carl's Jr.").
*In the email [[keep cool]], the temperature was 98ºF, but in all the Decemberween episodes, there is snow, suggesting that Free Country is in a state where the climate varies greatly.
*In the email [[retirement]], [[Strong Bad]] tells the audience to "feast their Dust Bowl-ravaged eyes" on his show. This suggests that they might be in the Great Plains area.
*In [[Main Page 11]], Downloads shows a weather map of the eastern region of the United States, suggesting that Free Country, USA is in the eastern half of the USA.

== Trivia ==
*The [[Strong Bad Email]] [[flashback]] marked the first time that a character actually said the name "Free Country, USA." Homestar also said the name "Free Country, USA." in Episode 1 of [[Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People]].

[[Category: Places]]

Free Country, USA

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| '''Language''' || [[Wikipedia:English language|English]]
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| '''Nominal Monarch''' || [[The King of Town]]
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| '''Population''' || [[Characters|21, at least]]
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| '''Currency''' || [[Wikipedia:United States Dollar|U.S. Dollar]] ([[Free Country, USA#Economics|probably]]) [[lackey|Pencil Shavings]] ([[Free Country, USA#Economics|sometimes]]).
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'''Free Country, USA''' (also spelled '''Free Country USA''' and '''FCUSA'''), is where the [[Homestar Runner universe]] is centered. All of the [[:Category:Main Characters|main characters]] live, work, and play here.

==Geographical Features and Locations==
[[Image:The Empty Field Of Green.png|thumb|The thriving hub that is Free Country, USA]]

Free Country, USA features a verdant [[The Field|field]] that typically serves as a central link between the various features of the landscape. At the center of the field itself is [[The Stick]], which functions as a landmark and a meeting place for [[Strong Bad]] and whomever he chooses to meet there. The edge of the field is lined with what appear to be trees. They represent the edge of Free Country. Probably also somewhere in or near the field is a stream with a picturesque [[The Stone Bridge|stone bridge]]. [[Date Nite|Once]], Strong Bad and [[Homestar Runner]] rocketed their [[USS Flirtini|cardboard submarine]] backwards along this stream, ending up in a large, open body of water. This may or may not be [[The Pond|the pond]] Strong Bad and [[Coach Z]] has been seen fishing in, or the sea; [[Marzipan]] once [[Homestar Presents: Presents|mentioned]] a location she referred to as "the wharfs", featuring crab traps and trapped baby seals. Rounding out the natural features are mountains (usually seen only from a distance). The foothills of these mountains are likely located in the nearby [[Spooky Woods|woods]], as they contain at least one [[cliff]]. There is also one "hot spot", [[Carrot and Kazoo Hill]].

Specific locations in Free Country are treated with a certain ambiguity. Somewhere at the edge of The Field is the [[The Athletic Field|Athletic Field]]; logically, [[Coach Z's locker room]] is near the Athletic Field. Somewhere near there is [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. Other locations include a "Town Hall" (see below), [[the Office]] where many of the characters work, and the [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow Stand]], a once-popular haunt for [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]].

The toon [[Summer Short Shorts]] features a sequence with [[Pom Pom]] that reveals that Bubs' Concession Stand, as well as a dense forest, is very near [[Strong Badia]]. A similar forest can be seen in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. However, the Pom Pom short depicts the forest and Bubs' with Strong Badia set in between them, whereas [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]] shows Bubs' on the edge of the forest with no Strong Badia to be seen. This forest may or may not be the [[Spooky Woods]] that is usually seen at night in Halloween-themed episodes.

''[[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]]'' features a map of Free Country, USA, but eschews any sense of proper geography, in favor of allowing the player to move the various landmarks around the landscape to their liking.

===Characters' Homes===

As with Free Country's locations, the homes of different characters do not exist in rigidly established locations. With the exception of Coach Z's locker room and [[The Cheat|The Cheat's]] home (which is also [[The King of Town]]'s grill and therefore always near [[The King of Town's castle]]), [[Marzipan's house]], [[Homestar Runner's House|Homestar's house]], and the [[house of the Brothers Strong]], as well as the King's castle itself are all found in locations that have no clear geographical relation to each other.

Some clues exist concerning this, however. In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]], Strong Bad (as Cableman Jorge) asks Marzipan to buy a "hundred-foot spool of coaxial cable" in an attempt to get free cable service; this would imply the two houses are rather close to each other. In [[The King of Town DVD Commentary]], Strong Bad claims that The King of Town does not live in the castle, but in a "run down and creepy" "two bedroom job... next door" to him, although this was probably slanderous. Also, the similar designs of the exteriors of Marzipan's and Homestar's houses may be a hint that they were built from the same blueprints, as houses within a development often are. In the email [[unnatural]], a gigantic [[Bubs]] silhouette is seen walking from a silhouette of Strong Badia to The King of Town's castle, making it in several steps. This suggests that the castle is actually very close to Strong Badia.

==Flora and Fauna==

The flora of the land is somewhat sparse. Though individual trees are seldom seen up close in Free Country, they are presented as being [[Wikipedia:deciduous|deciduous]] as opposed to [[Wikipedia:conifer|evergreen]] (other than [[Decemberween]] trees), evidenced by the barren branches seen during Free Country's autumn. Shrubs and the occasional bush make appearances from time to time; some bushes have been known to have [[Senor Cardgage]] emerge from them in some instances, though these events are not considered dangerous so much as they are creepy. Flowers are incredibly rare and have only been seen in a couple of cartoons.

Fauna is in even shorter supply. Save for the [[Sea Creatures#Fish|fish]] in the pond, a few [[Bugs|crickets]], [[bees]], at least one [[Fat Bluebird|bird]] (others have been heard), [[The Bug|fly]] (some were seen at other places, including the trash can in [[invisibility]]), and [[Gavin|cockroach]], plus the characters themselves, no other animal life has yet been seen in Free Country, USA.

[[The King of Town]] at one point had [[The King of Town's Sheep|sheep]]. Whether he still owns them or ate them all is open to debate. It was at one time rumored that a [[Multi-Function Dragon|dragon]] menaced the castle, but even if he really existed, a story line shows it being slain.

==Politics==
[[Image:The KoTs Castle Grand.PNG|thumb|150px|The King of Town's Castle]]
Free Country appears at first glance to be a [[Wikipedia:monarchy|monarchy]] since it is nominally ruled by [[The King of Town]]. However, since Free Country is a [[Wikipedia:municipality|municipality]] and not a kingdom, the King of Town would technically be a [[Wikipedia:lord|lord]]. As well, the self-conferred sovereign's reign is not recognized by the populace. Therefore, Free Country could be considered to be in a state of [[Wikipedia:Anarchy|anarchy]], where there is no accepted centralized government but the members of the community co-exist with loosely established rules that maintain order.

To this end, Free Country can muster a meager police force consisting of [[Homestar Runner]], [[Pom Pom]], [[Coach Z]], and [[Bubs]] to ensure that anyone engaged in criminal behavior (to date, only [[Strong Bad]] and [[The Cheat]]) are [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|placed firmly]] in [[jail]] (a large cardboard box). Since there is no need for an army (nor a government to stand one up), Free Country has no official military. It is, however, home to the [[Homestarmy]], a meager militia that includes a [[Frank Bennedetto|popcorn machine]] and is led by Homestar Runner. The Homestarmy once attempted to conquer Strong Badia (see below), but appears to represent no cohesive political movement (other than expressing discontent stemming from "playing second fiddle to a two-bit [[wrestleman]] and his yellow dog"). The King of Town has expressed an intention to exercise actual power, going so far as to mobilize [[The Municipality|his own military force]] headed up by [[The Poopsmith]], as seen in [[disconnected]].

Besides the King's castle (which would be the seat of government if the King's rule had any legitimacy), there is a different building containing a [[smoky office]] which has been used for various purposes, including a [[The Interview|newsroom]], [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|police station]], and a set for the ''[[Dangeresque (film series)|Dangeresque]]'' films.

The name and the currency used may imply that this town is in the United States of America, and in [[trading cards]] Strong Bad makes reference to himself "here in the states" when addressing a Canadian writer. Yet any further details, regarding what state or town "Free Country" is in is never mentioned. They may have to pay taxes, however, as evidenced by [[A Decemberween Pageant]] and [[Arcade Game]].

===Strong Badia===
[[Image:Strongbadia.png|thumb|150px|Strong Badia]]
Within Free Country's borders, the territory of [[Strong Badia]] exists as an autonomous enclave. Strong Badia has a [[flag day|flag]], a [[Strong Badia National Anthem|national anthem]], and has even had to [[The Battle of Strong Badia|defend its autonomy]] from [[Homestarmy|outside aggression]], as seen in [[army]]. Although Strong Bad said that Strong Badia doesn't have/need an army, the local gang, [[On Point Kings]], have transformed from being a simple group of guys hanging around to a band of shady <strike> missionaries</strike> mercenaries that specialize in black ops, brown ops, and the occasional beige op. Whether or not Strong Badia is a "real" country is open to debate, since the permanent population of Strong Badia is a [[tire]] and it's only the size of a backyard. A few email senders seem to call Free Country by this name, presumably because the characters talk about Strong Badia more often than Free Country. However, Strong Bad specifically addressed this issue in [[keep cool]], limiting the borders of Strong Badia to the empty lot.

==Other Territories==

Mentioned from time to time (and seen only via the depicted map) are other territories outside Free Country. If the circuitous path of Homestar's [[In Search of the Yello Dello|journey]] to [[Potamia]] for [[The Yello Dello]] is to be believed, Free Country borders the territory of [[Far Off Lands]]. Very little, if anything, is known about these territories or their relation to Free Country, although [[Prance]] is known to make at least one [[Hairstyle Runner|Homestar Runner-related product]].

According to the original Characters page and [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]], [[The Brothers Strong]] come from a land called Parts Unknown.

Strong Bad claims to have a secret family (surnamed Mudgeman) in a community named Broiter Grove. If there is any shred of truth to this supposition, it can be assumed this community is near Free Country, USA, as Strong Bad is clearly without a working car.

==Economics==

The economics of Free Country are as ambiguous as the locations and politics of the territory. The local currency is [[Wikipedia:Federal_Reserve_notes|U.S. dollars]], although this official currency is augmented by a strong barter system that allows trade of goods and services (further suggesting that the government has no central banking power); most local commerce occurs at [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. Pencil shavings have been accepted by [[Bubs]] at least twice, in [[lackey]] and [[secret identity]]. Also, in a Easter Egg in [[colonization]], Homestar declares that 'Dirty [[Diapers]]' were to no longer be considered legal tender. In the email [[flag day]] a coin is visible that resembles a quarter. It is the same color, appears to be the same size, and has a face and words on both sides of it as well as words on the top and bottom of the coin. The date on it would be on the wrong side, though. The face on this coin is Strong Bad's. This implies that it is Strong Badian money, which implies Strong Badia is its own country. Strong Bad could be making this coin up because it has some of the words of the song he is currently singing printed on it. It seems that there is some crabbing industry, as there are crab traps at the wharf (which often claim baby seals), even though this supposed wharf has never been seen.

Bubs' Concession Stand is known to accept these forms of currency:
*Cash
*Money
*Cash Money
*Pencil Shavings (added to the sign by the Cheat)
[[Image:Bubs Last Stand.PNG|thumb|150px|Bubs' Concession Stand]]

It is also unclear as to how rent or mortgages on the houses owned by Free Country residents is paid. [[Strong Bad]] mentions in [[colonization]] that he had to give [[Bubs]] his first and last month's rent deposits, but other than that, no other characters have mentioned how or when they pay rent.
===Employment===
:''Main article: [[Occupations]]''
Bubs works at his stand as a general fix-it man. He has also been seen as a mechanical worker at [[The Office]], and as a bartender at [[Club Technochocolate]]. [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]], [[Strong Bad]] (though Homestar and Strong Bad apparently took their athletic careers more seriously at one time), [[The Cheat]] (when not doing freelance Flash work), and [[Pom Pom]] work in some kind of an office, at least occasionally. Homestar also hosts [[The Show]]. [[Strong Bad]], in addition, had a "part, part, part, part, very part time job" as a giant [[Tragic Clown Dog]] mascot at [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] in [[part-time job]]. He quit that job, however, when he realized that he needed to rush back to Marzipan's house to finish his email before the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] lost its battery charge. [[Strong Mad]] appears to work as a bouncer at [[Club Technochocolate]]. [[Coach Z]] is presumably some kind of a coach and a gym class teacher; he has also been seen working as a custodian at the office and as a [[Drive-Thru Whale|mascot]] for [[Blubb-O's]] restaurant. [[The King of Town]] employs [[The Poopsmith]] for reasons he does not care to disclose as well as a [[The Little Chef Guy|chef]], a [[The Blacksmith|blacksmith]], a [[The Hornblower|hornblower]], a [[The Cleric|cleric]], and a [[The Knight|knight]]. Marzipan, The Cheat, and Strong Mad are in a band named [[Cool Tapes]], which tours and sells 7's for [[pi]] dollars. Marzipan additionally runs a kindergarten class which includes Homestar, [[Homsar]] and [[Strong Mad]]. [[Senor Cardgage]] has had several shady jobs, such as a mortgage seller, owner of an online e-niversity, and lastly, with a somewhat stable job as an usher at the local [[The Movie Theater|theater]]. It has not been revealed whether the remaining characters have jobs.

==Free Country Through Time==

In addition to its current, contemporary depiction, Free Country has been shown in the past and possibly in the future.
[[Image:1936field.png|thumb|150px|Old-Timey Free Country]]
===Old-Timey Free Country===

In the [[Old-Timey|1930s]], Free Country was characterized by dirt roads, picket fences, carnival tents, antiquated Industrial Revolution-era factories, and even a [[Cholera Acres Cemetary|graveyard]], only the latter of which may have survived the passage of time. As with the rest of the USA during this time period, Free Country was [[Wikipedia:Great Depression|economically depressed]], with the population being forced to subsist on dry meal, water soup, and parsnips. Commerce, such as it was, was located at a [[Parsnip Depot|dilapidated depot]].

There was a growing, through sponsorship funds, radio (name still unknown) which had a drama - "The Fish Was Delish Progrum", in which Sir Strong Bad already was building up his showman career.

And, though there is some debate as to whether or not Free Country was still under [[Wikipedia:Prohibition|Prohibition]] during this time period, some residents enjoyed the occasional nip of [[Wikipedia:Alcoholic beverage|hooch]] regardless.

[[Image:Freepetrydishusa.PNG|thumb|right|150px|Home to a bunch of plucky parameciums]]

===Free Petry Dish USA===
In the email [[highschool]], Strong Bad claims that the entirety of Free Country, USA was, in the past, merely on a petri dish, with all its inhabitants being single-cell organisms. However, considering his purported "unphotographic memory", it's unlikely that such a place ever truly existed.
[[Image:planetk.png|thumb|150px|20X6 Free Country]]

===Futuristic Free Country?===

In the futuristic year [[20X6]], Free Country may or may not be one and the same as [[Planet K]], which looks much like the current Free Country. If so, Free Country will grow to feature significantly more architecture to the extent of having a full city (a quality the territory currently lacks). Nothing is yet known about the economic or political state of this ultramodern version of Free Country, though there is a significantly higher frequency of fights and challenges faced by its residents, which include various robots. They appear to be located in the same region, however, as Strong Bad buries a time capsule that is later discovered by Stinkoman.

==Estimated Real-World Location==

Viewers of Homestar Runner have variously speculated about the "real" location of Free Country, USA, though it is generally assumed [[The Brothers Chaps]] prefer to leave its location undetermined.

Each time the world is seen from space, the shape of the United States is easily recognizable. The characters speak with American accents, type with American spelling, celebrate many American [[holidays]], and make references to elements of American culture (such as its [[presidents]]). Most obvious is the fact that "USA" is in the name. On a side note, America is widely known as a "free country." Therefore, it seems safe to conclude that Free Country, USA is somewhere in America. This may be the closest one can come to determining a location for Free Country, USA, as many of the following observations are contradictory to one another.

*The scene in the [[Theme Song Video]] where Homestar runs around the planet and a star appears on a United States map would lead one to believe it's possible that Free Country is somewhere in northern Nebraska.
*In the email [[radio]], the [[Crazy Go Nuts University|CGNU]] radio station's call letters are given as [[Radio Stations and Shows|WSBD]], as are "Numbitty 902's" WA3D FM. Real-world radio designations would place Free Country east of the Mississippi river.
*Free Country is likely in a northern latitude or high altitude given the snowy weather around [[Decemberween]].
*In the email [[anything]], Homestar refers to his two liter bottle of [[Mountain Dew]] as "soda", which is a term more used in the northeast and in the west. In parts of the Upper Midwest it is frequently called "pop".
*The Brothers Chaps themselves live in Atlanta, Georgia, making it possible that Free Country is located in the Southeast.
*In [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], Marzipan references baby seals and crab traps at the wharf, suggesting that Free Country is near the ocean, or at least a salt-water body.
**This might just show that there is a large lake nearby.
**This might just show that they import seals and crabs and trap them at a place called "the wharf."
*In [[Homestar vs. Other Little Girl]], Homestar claims he does ''not'' live in Texas.
*In the end of [[Where the Crap Are We?]], Homestar thinks he and Strong Bad are in Massachusetts, which would indicate that they are not from there.
*In [[Weclome Back]], [[Cool Tapes]] did a midwest tour, indicating that they may be from around there.
*In [[colonization]], [[Strong Bad]] and [[Bubs]] share some "cold Hardee's he had lying around", which implies that Free Country may be in the Eastern half of the USA (In the Western half of the US, "Hardee's" is called "Carl's Jr.").
*In the email [[keep cool]], the temperature was 98ºF, but in all the Decemberween episodes, there is snow, suggesting that Free Country is in a state where the climate varies greatly.
*In the email [[retirement]], [[Strong Bad]] tells the audience to "feast their Dust Bowl-ravaged eyes" on his show. This suggests that they might be in the Great Plains area.
*In [[Main Page 11]], Downloads shows a weather map of the eastern region of the United States, suggesting that Free Country, USA is in the eastern half of the USA.

== Trivia ==
*The [[Strong Bad Email]] [[flashback]] marked the first time that a character actually said the name "Free Country, USA." Homestar also said the name "Free Country, USA." in Episode 1 of [[Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People]].

[[Category: Places]]

Free Country, USA

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'''Free Country, USA''' (also spelled '''Free Country USA''' and '''FCUSA'''), is where the [[Homestar Runner universe]] is centered. All of the [[:Category:Main Characters|main characters]] live, work, and play here.

==Geographical Features and Locations==
[[Image:The Empty Field Of Green.png|thumb|The thriving hub that is Free Country, USA]]

Free Country, USA features a verdant [[The Field|field]] that typically serves as a central link between the various features of the landscape. At the center of the field itself is [[The Stick]], which functions as a landmark and a meeting place for [[Strong Bad]] and whomever he chooses to meet there. The edge of the field is lined with what appear to be trees. They represent the edge of Free Country. Probably also somewhere in or near the field is a stream with a picturesque [[The Stone Bridge|stone bridge]]. [[Date Nite|Once]], [[Strong Bad]] and [[Homestar Runner]] rocketed their [[USS Flirtini|cardboard submarine]] backwards along this stream, ending up in a large, open body of water. This may or may not be [[The Pond|the pond]] Strong Bad and [[Coach Z]] has been seen fishing in, or the sea; [[Marzipan]] once [[Homestar Presents: Presents|mentioned]] a location she referred to as "the wharfs", featuring crab traps and trapped baby seals. Rounding out the natural features are mountains (usually seen only from a distance). The foothills of these mountains are likely located in the nearby [[Spooky Woods|woods]], as they contain at least one [[cliff]]. There is also one "hot spot", [[Carrot and Kazoo Hill]].

Specific locations in Free Country are treated with a certain ambiguity. Somewhere at the edge of The Field is the [[The Athletic Field|Athletic Field]]; logically, [[Coach Z's locker room]] is near the Athletic Field. Somewhere near there is [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. Other locations include a "Town Hall" (see below), [[the Office]] where many of the characters work, and the [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow Stand]], a once-popular haunt for [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]].

The toon [[Summer Short Shorts]] features a sequence with Pom Pom that reveals that Bubs' Concession Stand, as well as a dense forest, is very near Strong Badia. A similar forest can be seen in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. However, the Pom Pom short depicts the forest and Bubs' with Strong Badia set in between them, whereas Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon shows Bubs' on the edge of the forest with no Strong Badia to be seen. This forest may or may not be the [[Spooky Woods]] that is usually seen at night in Halloween-themed episodes.

''[[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]]'' features a map of Free Country, USA, but eschews any sense of proper geography, in favor of allowing the player to move the various landmarks around the landscape to their liking.

===Characters' Homes===

As with Free Country's locations, the homes of different characters do not exist in rigidly established locations. With the exception of Coach Z's locker room and [[The Cheat|The Cheat's]] home (which is also [[The King of Town]]'s grill and therefore always near [[The King of Town's castle]]), [[Marzipan's house]], [[Homestar Runner's House|Homestar's house]], and the [[house of the Brothers Strong]], as well as the King's castle itself are all found in locations that have no clear geographical relation to each other.

Some clues exist concerning this, however. In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]], Strong Bad (as Cableman Jorge) asks Marzipan to buy a "hundred-foot spool of coaxial cable" in an attempt to get free cable service; this would imply the two houses are rather close to each other. In [[The King of Town DVD Commentary]], Strong Bad claims that The King of Town does not live in the castle, but in a "run down and creepy" "two bedroom job... next door" to him, although this was probably slanderous. Also, the similar designs of the exteriors of Marzipan's and Homestar's houses may be a hint that they were built from the same blueprints, as houses within a development often are. In the email [[unnatural]], a gigantic [[Bubs]] silhouette is seen walking from a silhouette of Strong Badia to The King of Town's castle, making it in several steps. This suggests that the castle is actually very close to Strong Badia.

==Flora and Fauna==

The flora of the land is somewhat sparse. Though individual trees are seldom seen up close in Free Country, they are presented as being [[Wikipedia:deciduous|deciduous]] as opposed to [[Wikipedia:conifer|evergreen]] (other than [[Decemberween]] trees), evidenced by the barren branches seen during Free Country's autumn. Shrubs and the occasional bush make appearances from time to time; some bushes have been known to have [[Senor Cardgage]] emerge from them in some instances, though these events are not considered dangerous so much as they are creepy. Flowers are incredibly rare and have only been seen in a couple of cartoons.

Fauna is in even shorter supply. Save for the [[Sea Creatures#Fish|fish]] in the pond, a few [[Bugs|crickets]], [[bees]], at least one [[Fat Bluebird|bird]] (others have been heard), [[The Bug|fly]] (some were seen at other places, including the trash can in [[invisibility]]), and [[Gavin|cockroach]], plus the characters themselves, no other animal life has yet been seen in Free Country, USA.

[[The King of Town]] at one point had [[The King of Town's Sheep|sheep]]. Whether he still owns them or ate them all is open to debate. It was at one time rumored that a [[Multi-Function Dragon|dragon]] menaced the castle, but even if he really existed, a story line shows it being slain.

==Politics==
[[Image:The KoTs Castle Grand.PNG|thumb|150px|The King of Town's Castle]]
Free Country appears at first glance to be a [[Wikipedia:monarchy|monarchy]] since it is nominally ruled by [[The King of Town]]. However, since Free Country is a [[Wikipedia:municipality|municipality]] and not a kingdom, the King of Town would technically be a [[Wikipedia:lord|lord]]. As well, the self-conferred sovereign's reign is not recognized by the populace. Therefore, Free Country could be considered to be in a state of [[Wikipedia:Anarchy|anarchy]], where there is no accepted centralized government but the members of the community co-exist with loosely established rules that maintain order.

To this end, Free Country can muster a meager police force consisting of [[Homestar Runner]], [[Pom Pom]], [[Coach Z]], and [[Bubs]] to ensure that anyone engaged in criminal behavior (to date, only [[Strong Bad]] and [[The Cheat]]) are [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|placed firmly]] in [[jail]] (a large cardboard box). Since there is no need for an army (nor a government to stand one up), Free Country has no official military. It is, however, home to the [[Homestarmy]], a meager militia that includes a [[Frank Bennedetto|popcorn machine]] and is led by Homestar Runner. The Homestarmy once attempted to conquer Strong Badia (see below), but appears to represent no cohesive political movement (other than expressing discontent stemming from "playing second fiddle to a two-bit [[wrestleman]] and his yellow dog"). The King of Town has expressed an intention to exercise actual power, going so far as to mobilize [[The Municipality|his own military force]] headed up by [[The Poopsmith]], as seen in [[disconnected]].

Besides the King's castle (which would be the seat of government if the King's rule had any legitimacy), there is a different building containing a [[smoky office]] which has been used for various purposes, including a [[The Interview|newsroom]], [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|police station]], and a set for the ''[[Dangeresque (film series)|Dangeresque]]'' films.

The name and the currency used may imply that this town is in the United States of America, and in [[trading cards]] Strong Bad makes reference to himself "here in the states" when addressing a Canadian writer. Yet any further details, regarding what state or town "Free Country" is in is never mentioned. They may have to pay taxes, however, as evidenced by [[A Decemberween Pageant]] and [[Arcade Game]].

===Strong Badia===
[[Image:Strongbadia.png|thumb|150px|Strong Badia]]
Within Free Country's borders, the territory of [[Strong Badia]] exists as an autonomous enclave. Strong Badia has a [[flag day|flag]], a [[Strong Badia National Anthem|national anthem]], and has even had to [[The Battle of Strong Badia|defend its autonomy]] from [[Homestarmy|outside aggression]], as seen in [[army]]. Although Strong Bad said that Strong Badia doesn't have/need an army, the local gang, [[On Point Kings]], have transformed from being a simple group of guys hanging around to a band of shady <strike> missionaries</strike> mercenaries that specialize in black ops, brown ops, and the occasional beige op. Whether or not Strong Badia is a "real" country is open to debate, since the permanent population of Strong Badia is a [[tire]] and it's only the size of a backyard. A few email senders seem to call Free Country by this name, presumably because the characters talk about Strong Badia more often than Free Country. However, Strong Bad specifically addressed this issue in [[keep cool]], limiting the borders of Strong Badia to the empty lot.

==Other Territories==

Mentioned from time to time (and seen only via the depicted map) are other territories outside Free Country. If the circuitous path of Homestar's [[In Search of the Yello Dello|journey]] to [[Potamia]] for [[The Yello Dello]] is to be believed, Free Country borders the territory of [[Far Off Lands]]. Very little, if anything, is known about these territories or their relation to Free Country, although [[Prance]] is known to make at least one [[Hairstyle Runner|Homestar Runner-related product]].

According to the original Characters page and [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]], [[The Brothers Strong]] come from a land called Parts Unknown.

Strong Bad claims to have a secret family (surnamed Mudgeman) in a community named Broiter Grove. If there is any shred of truth to this supposition, it can be assumed this community is near Free Country, USA, as Strong Bad is clearly without a working car.

==Economics==

The economics of Free Country are as ambiguous as the locations and politics of the territory. The local currency is [[Wikipedia:Federal_Reserve_notes|U.S. dollars]], although this official currency is augmented by a strong barter system that allows trade of goods and services (further suggesting that the government has no central banking power); most local commerce occurs at [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. Pencil shavings have been accepted by [[Bubs]] at least twice, in [[lackey]] and [[secret identity]]. Also, in a Easter Egg in [[colonization]], Homestar declares that 'Dirty [[Diapers]]' were to no longer be considered legal tender. In the email [[flag day]] a coin is visible that resembles a quarter. It is the same color, appears to be the same size, and has a face and words on both sides of it as well as words on the top and bottom of the coin. The date on it would be on the wrong side, though. The face on this coin is Strong Bad's. This implies that it is Strong Badian money, which implies Strong Badia is its own country. Strong Bad could be making this coin up because it has some of the words of the song he is currently singing printed on it. It seems that there is some crabbing industry, as there are crab traps at the wharf (which often claim baby seals), even though this supposed wharf has never been seen.

Bubs' Concession Stand is known to accept these forms of currency:
*Cash
*Money
*Cash Money
*Pencil Shavings (added to the sign by the Cheat)
[[Image:Bubs Last Stand.PNG|thumb|150px|Bubs' Concession Stand]]

It is also unclear as to how rent or mortgages on the houses owned by Free Country residents is paid. [[Strong Bad]] mentions in [[colonization]] that he had to give [[Bubs]] his first and last month's rent deposits, but other than that, no other characters have mentioned how or when they pay rent.
===Employment===
:''Main article: [[Occupations]]''
Bubs works at his stand as a general fix-it man. He has also been seen as a mechanical worker at [[The Office]], and as a bartender at [[Club Technochocolate]]. [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]], [[Strong Bad]] (though Homestar and Strong Bad apparently took their athletic careers more seriously at one time), [[The Cheat]] (when not doing freelance Flash work), and [[Pom Pom]] work in some kind of an office, at least occasionally. Homestar also hosts [[The Show]]. [[Strong Bad]], in addition, had a "part, part, part, part, very part time job" as a giant [[Tragic Clown Dog]] mascot at [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] in [[part-time job]]. He quit that job, however, when he realized that he needed to rush back to Marzipan's house to finish his email before the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] lost its battery charge. [[Strong Mad]] appears to work as a bouncer at [[Club Technochocolate]]. [[Coach Z]] is presumably some kind of a coach and a gym class teacher; he has also been seen working as a custodian at the office and as a [[Drive-Thru Whale|mascot]] for [[Blubb-O's]] restaurant. [[The King of Town]] employs [[The Poopsmith]] for reasons he does not care to disclose as well as a [[The Little Chef Guy|chef]], a [[The Blacksmith|blacksmith]], a [[The Hornblower|hornblower]], a [[The Cleric|cleric]], and a [[The Knight|knight]]. Marzipan, The Cheat, and Strong Mad are in a band named [[Cool Tapes]], which tours and sells 7's for [[pi]] dollars. Marzipan additionally runs a kindergarten class which includes Homestar, [[Homsar]] and [[Strong Mad]]. [[Senor Cardgage]] has had several shady jobs, such as a mortgage seller, owner of an online e-niversity, and lastly, with a somewhat stable job as an usher at the local [[The Movie Theater|theater]]. It has not been revealed whether the remaining characters have jobs.

==Free Country Through Time==

In addition to its current, contemporary depiction, Free Country has been shown in the past and possibly in the future.
[[Image:1936field.png|thumb|150px|Old-Timey Free Country]]
===Old-Timey Free Country===

In the [[Old-Timey|1930s]], Free Country was characterized by dirt roads, picket fences, carnival tents, antiquated Industrial Revolution-era factories, and even a [[Cholera Acres Cemetary|graveyard]], only the latter of which may have survived the passage of time. As with the rest of the USA during this time period, Free Country was [[Wikipedia:Great Depression|economically depressed]], with the population being forced to subsist on dry meal, water soup, and parsnips. Commerce, such as it was, was located at a [[Parsnip Depot|dilapidated depot]].

There was a growing, through sponsorship funds, radio (name still unknown) which had a drama - "The Fish Was Delish Progrum", in which Sir Strong Bad already was building up his showman career.

And, though there is some debate as to whether or not Free Country was still under [[Wikipedia:Prohibition|Prohibition]] during this time period, some residents enjoyed the occasional nip of [[Wikipedia:Alcoholic beverage|hooch]] regardless.

[[Image:Freepetrydishusa.PNG|thumb|right|150px|Home to a bunch of plucky parameciums]]

===Free Petry Dish USA===
In the email [[highschool]], Strong Bad claims that the entirety of Free Country, USA was, in the past, merely on a petri dish, with all its inhabitants being single-cell organisms. However, considering his purported "unphotographic memory", it's unlikely that such a place ever truly existed.
[[Image:planetk.png|thumb|150px|20X6 Free Country]]

===Futuristic Free Country?===

In the futuristic year [[20X6]], Free Country may or may not be one and the same as [[Planet K]], which looks much like the current Free Country. If so, Free Country will grow to feature significantly more architecture to the extent of having a full city (a quality the territory currently lacks). Nothing is yet known about the economic or political state of this ultramodern version of Free Country, though there is a significantly higher frequency of fights and challenges faced by its residents, which include various robots. They appear to be located in the same region, however, as Strong Bad buries a time capsule that is later discovered by Stinkoman.

==Estimated Real-World Location==

Viewers of Homestar Runner have variously speculated about the "real" location of Free Country, USA, though it is generally assumed [[The Brothers Chaps]] prefer to leave its location undetermined.

Each time the world is seen from space, the shape of the United States is easily recognizable. The characters speak with American accents, type with American spelling, celebrate many American [[holidays]], and make references to elements of American culture (such as its [[presidents]]). Most obvious is the fact that "USA" is in the name. On a side note, America is widely known as a "free country." Therefore, it seems safe to conclude that Free Country, USA is somewhere in America. This may be the closest one can come to determining a location for Free Country, USA, as many of the following observations are contradictory to one another.

*The scene in the [[Theme Song Video]] where Homestar runs around the planet and a star appears on a United States map would lead one to believe it's possible that Free Country is somewhere in northern Nebraska.
*In the email [[radio]], the [[Crazy Go Nuts University|CGNU]] radio station's call letters are given as [[Radio Stations and Shows|WSBD]], as are "Numbitty 902's" WA3D FM. Real-world radio designations would place Free Country east of the Mississippi river.
*Free Country is likely in a northern latitude or high altitude given the snowy weather around [[Decemberween]].
*In the email [[anything]], Homestar refers to his two liter bottle of [[Mountain Dew]] as "soda", which is a term more used in the northeast and in the west. In parts of the Upper Midwest it is frequently called "pop".
*The Brothers Chaps themselves live in Atlanta, Georgia, making it possible that Free Country is located in the Southeast.
*In [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], Marzipan references baby seals and crab traps at the wharf, suggesting that Free Country is near the ocean, or at least a salt-water body.
**This might just show that there is a large lake nearby.
**This might just show that they import seals and crabs and trap them at a place called "the wharf."
*In [[Homestar vs. Other Little Girl]], Homestar claims he does ''not'' live in Texas.
*In the end of [[Where the Crap Are We?]], Homestar thinks he and Strong Bad are in Massachusetts, which would indicate that they are not from there.
*In [[Weclome Back]], [[Cool Tapes]] did a midwest tour, indicating that they may be from around there.
*In [[colonization]], [[Strong Bad]] and [[Bubs]] share some "cold Hardee's he had lying around", which implies that Free Country may be in the Eastern half of the USA (In the Western half of the US, "Hardee's" is called "Carl's Jr.").
*In the email [[keep cool]], the temperature was 98ºF, but in all the Decemberween episodes, there is snow, suggesting that Free Country is in a state where the climate varies greatly.
*In the email [[retirement]], [[Strong Bad]] tells the audience to "feast their Dust Bowl-ravaged eyes" on his show. This suggests that they might be in the Great Plains area.
*In [[Main Page 11]], Downloads shows a weather map of the eastern region of the United States, suggesting that Free Country, USA is in the eastern half of the USA.

== Trivia ==
*The [[Strong Bad Email]] [[flashback]] marked the first time that a character actually said the name "Free Country, USA." Homestar also said the name "Free Country, USA." in Episode 1 of [[Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People]].

[[Category: Places]]

Free Country, USA

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| '''Language''' || [[Wikipedia:English language|English]]
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| '''Nominal Monarch''' || [[The King of Town]]
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| '''Population''' || [[Characters|21, at least]]
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| '''Currency''' || [[Wikipedia:United States Dollar|U.S. Dollar]] ([[Free Country, USA#Economics|probably]]) [[lackey|Pencil Shavings]] ([[Free Country, USA#Economics|sometimes]]).
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'''Free Country, USA''' (also spelled '''Free Country USA''' and '''FCUSA'''), is where the [[Homestar Runner universe]] is centered. All of the [[:Category:Main Characters|main characters]] live, work, and play here.

==Geographical Features and Locations==
[[Image:The Empty Field Of Green.png|thumb|The thriving hub that is Free Country, USA]]

Free Country, USA features a verdant [[The Field|field]] that typically serves as a central link between the various features of the landscape. At the center of the field itself is [[The Stick]], which functions as a landmark and a meeting place for [[Strong Bad]] and whomever he chooses to meet there. The edge of the field is lined with what appear to be trees. They represent the edge of Free Country. Probably also somewhere in or near the field is a stream with a picturesque [[The Stone Bridge|stone bridge]]. [[Date Nite|Once]], [[Strong Bad]] and [[Homestar Runner]] rocketed their [[USS Flirtini|cardboard submarine]] backwards along this stream, ending up in a large, open body of water. This may or may not be [[The Pond|the pond]] Strong Bad and [[Coach Z]] has been seen fishing in, or the sea; [[Marzipan]] once [[Homestar Presents: Presents|mentioned]] a location she referred to as "the wharfs", featuring crab traps and trapped baby seals. Rounding out the natural features are mountains (usually seen only from a distance). The foothills of these mountains are likely located in the nearby [[Spooky Woods|woods]], as they contain at least one [[cliff]]. There is also one "hotspot", [[Carrot and Kazoo Hill]].

Specific locations in Free Country are treated with a certain ambiguity. Somewhere at the edge of The Field is the [[The Athletic Field|Athletic Field]]; logically, [[Coach Z's locker room]] is near the Athletic Field. Somewhere near there is [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. Other locations include a "Town Hall" (see below), [[the Office]] where many of the characters work, and the [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow Stand]], a once-popular haunt for [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]].

The toon [[Summer Short Shorts]] features a sequence with Pom Pom that reveals that Bubs' Concession Stand, as well as a dense forest, is very near Strong Badia. A similar forest can be seen in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. However, the Pom Pom short depicts the forest and Bubs' with Strong Badia set in between them, whereas Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon shows Bubs' on the edge of the forest with no Strong Badia to be seen. This forest may or may not be the [[Spooky Woods]] that is usually seen at night in Halloween-themed episodes.

''[[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]]'' features a map of Free Country, USA, but eschews any sense of proper geography, in favor of allowing the player to move the various landmarks around the landscape to their liking.

===Characters' Homes===

As with Free Country's locations, the homes of different characters do not exist in rigidly established locations. With the exception of Coach Z's locker room and [[The Cheat|The Cheat's]] home (which is also [[The King of Town]]'s grill and therefore always near [[The King of Town's castle]]), [[Marzipan's house]], [[Homestar Runner's House|Homestar's house]], and the [[house of the Brothers Strong]], as well as the King's castle itself are all found in locations that have no clear geographical relation to each other.

Some clues exist concerning this, however. In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]], Strong Bad (as Cableman Jorge) asks Marzipan to buy a "hundred-foot spool of coaxial cable" in an attempt to get free cable service; this would imply the two houses are rather close to each other. In [[The King of Town DVD Commentary]], Strong Bad claims that The King of Town does not live in the castle, but in a "run down and creepy" "two bedroom job... next door" to him, although this was probably slanderous. Also, the similar designs of the exteriors of Marzipan's and Homestar's houses may be a hint that they were built from the same blueprints, as houses within a development often are. In the email [[unnatural]], a gigantic [[Bubs]] silhouette is seen walking from a silhouette of Strong Badia to The King of Town's castle, making it in several steps. This suggests that the castle is actually very close to Strong Badia.

==Flora and Fauna==

The flora of the land is somewhat sparse. Though individual trees are seldom seen up close in Free Country, they are presented as being [[Wikipedia:deciduous|deciduous]] as opposed to [[Wikipedia:conifer|evergreen]] (other than [[Decemberween]] trees), evidenced by the barren branches seen during Free Country's autumn. Shrubs and the occasional bush make appearances from time to time; some bushes have been known to have [[Senor Cardgage]] emerge from them in some instances, though these events are not considered dangerous so much as they are creepy. Flowers are incredibly rare and have only been seen in a couple of cartoons.

Fauna is in even shorter supply. Save for the [[Sea Creatures#Fish|fish]] in the pond, a few [[Bugs|crickets]], [[bees]], at least one [[Fat Bluebird|bird]] (others have been heard), [[The Bug|fly]] (some were seen at other places, including the trash can in [[invisibility]]), and [[Gavin|cockroach]], plus the characters themselves, no other animal life has yet been seen in Free Country, USA.

[[The King of Town]] at one point had [[The King of Town's Sheep|sheep]]. Whether he still owns them or ate them all is open to debate. It was at one time rumored that a [[Multi-Function Dragon|dragon]] menaced the castle, but even if he really existed, a story line shows it being slain.

==Politics==
[[Image:The KoTs Castle Grand.PNG|thumb|150px|The King of Town's Castle]]
Free Country appears at first glance to be a [[Wikipedia:monarchy|monarchy]] since it is nominally ruled by [[The King of Town]]. However, since Free Country is a [[Wikipedia:municipality|municipality]] and not a kingdom, the King of Town would technically be a [[Wikipedia:lord|lord]]. As well, the self-conferred sovereign's reign is not recognized by the populace. Therefore, Free Country could be considered to be in a state of [[Wikipedia:Anarchy|anarchy]], where there is no accepted centralized government but the members of the community co-exist with loosely established rules that maintain order.

To this end, Free Country can muster a meager police force consisting of [[Homestar Runner]], [[Pom Pom]], [[Coach Z]], and [[Bubs]] to ensure that anyone engaged in criminal behavior (to date, only [[Strong Bad]] and [[The Cheat]]) are [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|placed firmly]] in [[jail]] (a large cardboard box). Since there is no need for an army (nor a government to stand one up), Free Country has no official military. It is, however, home to the [[Homestarmy]], a meager militia that includes a [[Frank Bennedetto|popcorn machine]] and is led by Homestar Runner. The Homestarmy once attempted to conquer Strong Badia (see below), but appears to represent no cohesive political movement (other than expressing discontent stemming from "playing second fiddle to a two-bit [[wrestleman]] and his yellow dog"). The King of Town has expressed an intention to exercise actual power, going so far as to mobilize [[The Municipality|his own military force]] headed up by [[The Poopsmith]], as seen in [[disconnected]].

Besides the King's castle (which would be the seat of government if the King's rule had any legitimacy), there is a different building containing a [[smoky office]] which has been used for various purposes, including a [[The Interview|newsroom]], [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|police station]], and a set for the ''[[Dangeresque (film series)|Dangeresque]]'' films.

The name and the currency used may imply that this town is in the United States of America, and in [[trading cards]] Strong Bad makes reference to himself "here in the states" when addressing a Canadian writer. Yet any further details, regarding what state or town "Free Country" is in is never mentioned. They may have to pay taxes, however, as evidenced by [[A Decemberween Pageant]] and [[Arcade Game]].

===Strong Badia===
[[Image:Strongbadia.png|thumb|150px|Strong Badia]]
Within Free Country's borders, the territory of [[Strong Badia]] exists as an autonomous enclave. Strong Badia has a [[flag day|flag]], a [[Strong Badia National Anthem|national anthem]], and has even had to [[The Battle of Strong Badia|defend its autonomy]] from [[Homestarmy|outside aggression]], as seen in [[army]]. Although Strong Bad said that Strong Badia doesn't have/need an army, the local gang, [[On Point Kings]], have transformed from being a simple group of guys hanging around to a band of shady <strike> missionaries</strike> mercenaries that specialize in black ops, brown ops, and the occasional beige op. Whether or not Strong Badia is a "real" country is open to debate, since the permanent population of Strong Badia is a [[tire]] and it's only the size of a backyard. A few email senders seem to call Free Country by this name, presumably because the characters talk about Strong Badia more often than Free Country. However, Strong Bad specifically addressed this issue in [[keep cool]], limiting the borders of Strong Badia to the empty lot.

==Other Territories==

Mentioned from time to time (and seen only via the depicted map) are other territories outside Free Country. If the circuitous path of Homestar's [[In Search of the Yello Dello|journey]] to [[Potamia]] for [[The Yello Dello]] is to be believed, Free Country borders the territory of [[Far Off Lands]]. Very little, if anything, is known about these territories or their relation to Free Country, although [[Prance]] is known to make at least one [[Hairstyle Runner|Homestar Runner-related product]].

According to the original Characters page and [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]], [[The Brothers Strong]] come from a land called Parts Unknown.

Strong Bad claims to have a secret family (surnamed Mudgeman) in a community named Broiter Grove. If there is any shred of truth to this supposition, it can be assumed this community is near Free Country, USA, as Strong Bad is clearly without a working car.

==Economics==

The economics of Free Country are as ambiguous as the locations and politics of the territory. The local currency is [[Wikipedia:Federal_Reserve_notes|U.S. dollars]], although this official currency is augmented by a strong barter system that allows trade of goods and services (further suggesting that the government has no central banking power); most local commerce occurs at [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. Pencil shavings have been accepted by [[Bubs]] at least twice, in [[lackey]] and [[secret identity]]. Also, in a Easter Egg in [[colonization]], Homestar declares that 'Dirty [[Diapers]]' were to no longer be considered legal tender. In the email [[flag day]] a coin is visible that resembles a quarter. It is the same color, appears to be the same size, and has a face and words on both sides of it as well as words on the top and bottom of the coin. The date on it would be on the wrong side, though. The face on this coin is Strong Bad's. This implies that it is Strong Badian money, which implies Strong Badia is its own country. Strong Bad could be making this coin up because it has some of the words of the song he is currently singing printed on it. It seems that there is some crabbing industry, as there are crab traps at the wharf (which often claim baby seals), even though this supposed wharf has never been seen.

Bubs' Concession Stand is known to accept these forms of currency:
*Cash
*Money
*Cash Money
*Pencil Shavings (added to the sign by the Cheat)
[[Image:Bubs Last Stand.PNG|thumb|150px|Bubs' Concession Stand]]

It is also unclear as to how rent or mortgages on the houses owned by Free Country residents is paid. [[Strong Bad]] mentions in [[colonization]] that he had to give [[Bubs]] his first and last month's rent deposits, but other than that, no other characters have mentioned how or when they pay rent.
===Employment===
:''Main article: [[Occupations]]''
Bubs works at his stand as a general fix-it man. He has also been seen as a mechanical worker at [[The Office]], and as a bartender at [[Club Technochocolate]]. [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]], [[Strong Bad]] (though Homestar and Strong Bad apparently took their athletic careers more seriously at one time), [[The Cheat]] (when not doing freelance Flash work), and [[Pom Pom]] work in some kind of an office, at least occasionally. Homestar also hosts [[The Show]]. [[Strong Bad]], in addition, had a "part, part, part, part, very part time job" as a giant [[Tragic Clown Dog]] mascot at [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] in [[part-time job]]. He quit that job, however, when he realized that he needed to rush back to Marzipan's house to finish his email before the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] lost its battery charge. [[Strong Mad]] appears to work as a bouncer at [[Club Technochocolate]]. [[Coach Z]] is presumably some kind of a coach and a gym class teacher; he has also been seen working as a custodian at the office and as a [[Drive-Thru Whale|mascot]] for [[Blubb-O's]] restaurant. [[The King of Town]] employs [[The Poopsmith]] for reasons he does not care to disclose as well as a [[The Little Chef Guy|chef]], a [[The Blacksmith|blacksmith]], a [[The Hornblower|hornblower]], a [[The Cleric|cleric]], and a [[The Knight|knight]]. Marzipan, The Cheat, and Strong Mad are in a band named [[Cool Tapes]], which tours and sells 7's for [[pi]] dollars. Marzipan additionally runs a kindergarten class which includes Homestar, [[Homsar]] and [[Strong Mad]]. [[Senor Cardgage]] has had several shady jobs, such as a mortgage seller, owner of an online e-niversity, and lastly, with a somewhat stable job as an usher at the local [[The Movie Theater|theater]]. It has not been revealed whether the remaining characters have jobs.

==Free Country Through Time==

In addition to its current, contemporary depiction, Free Country has been shown in the past and possibly in the future.
[[Image:1936field.png|thumb|150px|Old-Timey Free Country]]
===Old-Timey Free Country===

In the [[Old-Timey|1930s]], Free Country was characterized by dirt roads, picket fences, carnival tents, antiquated Industrial Revolution-era factories, and even a [[Cholera Acres Cemetary|graveyard]], only the latter of which may have survived the passage of time. As with the rest of the USA during this time period, Free Country was [[Wikipedia:Great Depression|economically depressed]], with the population being forced to subsist on dry meal, water soup, and parsnips. Commerce, such as it was, was located at a [[Parsnip Depot|dilapidated depot]].

There was a growing, through sponsorship funds, radio (name still unknown) which had a drama - "The Fish Was Delish Progrum", in which Sir Strong Bad already was building up his showman career.

And, though there is some debate as to whether or not Free Country was still under [[Wikipedia:Prohibition|Prohibition]] during this time period, some residents enjoyed the occasional nip of [[Wikipedia:Alcoholic beverage|hooch]] regardless.

[[Image:Freepetrydishusa.PNG|thumb|right|150px|Home to a bunch of plucky parameciums]]

===Free Petry Dish USA===
In the email [[highschool]], Strong Bad claims that the entirety of Free Country, USA was, in the past, merely on a petri dish, with all its inhabitants being single-cell organisms. However, considering his purported "unphotographic memory", it's unlikely that such a place ever truly existed.
[[Image:planetk.png|thumb|150px|20X6 Free Country]]

===Futuristic Free Country?===

In the futuristic year [[20X6]], Free Country may or may not be one and the same as [[Planet K]], which looks much like the current Free Country. If so, Free Country will grow to feature significantly more architecture to the extent of having a full city (a quality the territory currently lacks). Nothing is yet known about the economic or political state of this ultramodern version of Free Country, though there is a significantly higher frequency of fights and challenges faced by its residents, which include various robots. They appear to be located in the same region, however, as Strong Bad buries a time capsule that is later discovered by Stinkoman.

==Estimated Real-World Location==

Viewers of Homestar Runner have variously speculated about the "real" location of Free Country, USA, though it is generally assumed [[The Brothers Chaps]] prefer to leave its location undetermined.

Each time the world is seen from space, the shape of the United States is easily recognizable. The characters speak with American accents, type with American spelling, celebrate many American [[holidays]], and make references to elements of American culture (such as its [[presidents]]). Most obvious is the fact that "USA" is in the name. On a side note, America is widely known as a "free country." Therefore, it seems safe to conclude that Free Country, USA is somewhere in America. This may be the closest one can come to determining a location for Free Country, USA, as many of the following observations are contradictory to one another.

*The scene in the [[Theme Song Video]] where Homestar runs around the planet and a star appears on a United States map would lead one to believe it's possible that Free Country is somewhere in northern Nebraska.
*In the email [[radio]], the [[Crazy Go Nuts University|CGNU]] radio station's call letters are given as [[Radio Stations and Shows|WSBD]], as are "Numbitty 902's" WA3D FM. Real-world radio designations would place Free Country east of the Mississippi river.
*Free Country is likely in a northern latitude or high altitude given the snowy weather around [[Decemberween]].
*In the email [[anything]], Homestar refers to his two liter bottle of [[Mountain Dew]] as "soda", which is a term more used in the northeast and in the west. In parts of the Upper Midwest it is frequently called "pop".
*The Brothers Chaps themselves live in Atlanta, Georgia, making it possible that Free Country is located in the Southeast.
*In [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], Marzipan references baby seals and crab traps at the wharf, suggesting that Free Country is near the ocean, or at least a salt-water body.
**This might just show that there is a large lake nearby.
**This might just show that they import seals and crabs and trap them at a place called "the wharf."
*In [[Homestar vs. Other Little Girl]], Homestar claims he does ''not'' live in Texas.
*In the end of [[Where the Crap Are We?]], Homestar thinks he and Strong Bad are in Massachusetts, which would indicate that they are not from there.
*In [[Weclome Back]], [[Cool Tapes]] did a midwest tour, indicating that they may be from around there.
*In [[colonization]], [[Strong Bad]] and [[Bubs]] share some "cold Hardee's he had lying around", which implies that Free Country may be in the Eastern half of the USA (In the Western half of the US, "Hardee's" is called "Carl's Jr.").
*In the email [[keep cool]], the temperature was 98ºF, but in all the Decemberween episodes, there is snow, suggesting that Free Country is in a state where the climate varies greatly.
*In the email [[retirement]], [[Strong Bad]] tells the audience to "feast their Dust Bowl-ravaged eyes" on his show. This suggests that they might be in the Great Plains area.
*In [[Main Page 11]], Downloads shows a weather map of the eastern region of the United States, suggesting that Free Country, USA is in the eastern half of the USA.

== Trivia ==
*The [[Strong Bad Email]] [[flashback]] marked the first time that a character actually said the name "Free Country, USA." Homestar also said the name "Free Country, USA." in Episode 1 of [[Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People]].

[[Category: Places]]

Free Country, USA

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| '''Language''' || [[Wikipedia:English language|English]]
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| '''Nominal Monarch''' || [[The King of Town]]
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| '''Population''' || [[Characters|21, at least]]
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| '''Currency''' || [[Wikipedia:United States Dollar|U.S. Dollar]] ([[Free Country, USA#Economics|probably]]) [[lackey|Pencil Shavings]] ([[Free Country, USA#Economics|sometimes]]).
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'''Free Country, USA''' (also spelled '''Free Country USA''' and '''FCUSA'''), is where the [[Homestar Runner universe]] is centered. All of the [[:Category:Main Characters|main characters]] live, work, and play here.

==Geographical Features and Locations==
[[Image:The Empty Field Of Green.png|thumb|The thriving hub that is Free Country, USA]]

Free Country, USA features a verdant [[The Field|field]] that typically serves as a central link between the various features of the landscape. At the center of the field itself is [[The Stick]], which functions as a landmark and a meeting place for [[Strong Bad]] and whomever he chooses to meet there. The edge of the field is lined with what appear to be trees. They represent the edge of Free Country. Probably also somewhere in or near the field is a stream with a picturesque [[The Stone Bridge|stone bridge]]. [[Date Nite|Once]], [[Strong Bad]] and [[Homestar Runner]] rocketed their [[USS Flirtini|cardboard submarine]] backwards along this stream, ending up in a large, open body of water. This may or may not be [[The Pond|the pond]] Strong Bad and [[Coach Z]] has been seen fishing in, or the sea; [[Marzipan]] once [[Homestar Presents: Presents|mentioned]] a wharf featuring crab traps and trapped baby seals. Rounding out the natural features are mountains (usually seen only from a distance). The foothills of these mountains are likely located in the nearby [[Spooky Woods|woods]], as they contain at least one [[cliff]]. There is also one "hotspot", [[Carrot and Kazoo Hill]].

Specific locations in Free Country are treated with a certain ambiguity. Somewhere at the edge of The Field is the [[The Athletic Field|Athletic Field]]; logically, [[Coach Z's locker room]] is near the Athletic Field. Somewhere near there is [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. Other locations include a "Town Hall" (see below), [[the Office]] where many of the characters work, and the [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow Stand]], a once-popular haunt for [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]].

The toon [[Summer Short Shorts]] features a sequence with Pom Pom that reveals that Bubs' Concession Stand, as well as a dense forest, is very near Strong Badia. A similar forest can be seen in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. However, the Pom Pom short depicts the forest and Bubs' with Strong Badia set in between them, whereas Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon shows Bubs' on the edge of the forest with no Strong Badia to be seen. This forest may or may not be the [[Spooky Woods]] that is usually seen at night in Halloween-themed episodes.

''[[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]]'' features a map of Free Country, USA, but eschews any sense of proper geography, in favor of allowing the player to move the various landmarks around the landscape to their liking.

===Characters' Homes===

As with Free Country's locations, the homes of different characters do not exist in rigidly established locations. With the exception of Coach Z's locker room and [[The Cheat|The Cheat's]] home (which is also [[The King of Town]]'s grill and therefore always near [[The King of Town's castle]]), [[Marzipan's house]], [[Homestar Runner's House|Homestar's house]], and the [[house of the Brothers Strong]], as well as the King's castle itself are all found in locations that have no clear geographical relation to each other.

Some clues exist concerning this, however. In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]], Strong Bad (as Cableman Jorge) asks Marzipan to buy a "hundred-foot spool of coaxial cable" in an attempt to get free cable service; this would imply the two houses are rather close to each other. In [[The King of Town DVD Commentary]], Strong Bad claims that The King of Town does not live in the castle, but in a "run down and creepy" "two bedroom job... next door" to him, although this was probably slanderous. Also, the similar designs of the exteriors of Marzipan's and Homestar's houses may be a hint that they were built from the same blueprints, as houses within a development often are. In the email [[unnatural]], a gigantic [[Bubs]] silhouette is seen walking from a silhouette of Strong Badia to The King of Town's castle, making it in several steps. This suggests that the castle is actually very close to Strong Badia.

==Flora and Fauna==

The flora of the land is somewhat sparse. Though individual trees are seldom seen up close in Free Country, they are presented as being [[Wikipedia:deciduous|deciduous]] as opposed to [[Wikipedia:conifer|evergreen]] (other than [[Decemberween]] trees), evidenced by the barren branches seen during Free Country's autumn. Shrubs and the occasional bush make appearances from time to time; some bushes have been known to have [[Senor Cardgage]] emerge from them in some instances, though these events are not considered dangerous so much as they are creepy. Flowers are incredibly rare and have only been seen in a couple of cartoons.

Fauna is in even shorter supply. Save for the [[Sea Creatures#Fish|fish]] in the pond, a few [[Bugs|crickets]], [[bees]], at least one [[Fat Bluebird|bird]] (others have been heard), [[The Bug|fly]] (some were seen at other places, including the trash can in [[invisibility]]), and [[Gavin|cockroach]], plus the characters themselves, no other animal life has yet been seen in Free Country, USA.

[[The King of Town]] at one point had [[The King of Town's Sheep|sheep]]. Whether he still owns them or ate them all is open to debate. It was at one time rumored that a [[Multi-Function Dragon|dragon]] menaced the castle, but even if he really existed, a story line shows it being slain.

==Politics==
[[Image:The KoTs Castle Grand.PNG|thumb|150px|The King of Town's Castle]]
Free Country appears at first glance to be a [[Wikipedia:monarchy|monarchy]] since it is nominally ruled by [[The King of Town]]. However, since Free Country is a [[Wikipedia:municipality|municipality]] and not a kingdom, the King of Town would technically be a [[Wikipedia:lord|lord]]. As well, the self-conferred sovereign's reign is not recognized by the populace. Therefore, Free Country could be considered to be in a state of [[Wikipedia:Anarchy|anarchy]], where there is no accepted centralized government but the members of the community co-exist with loosely established rules that maintain order.

To this end, Free Country can muster a meager police force consisting of [[Homestar Runner]], [[Pom Pom]], [[Coach Z]], and [[Bubs]] to ensure that anyone engaged in criminal behavior (to date, only [[Strong Bad]] and [[The Cheat]]) are [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|placed firmly]] in [[jail]] (a large cardboard box). Since there is no need for an army (nor a government to stand one up), Free Country has no official military. It is, however, home to the [[Homestarmy]], a meager militia that includes a [[Frank Bennedetto|popcorn machine]] and is led by Homestar Runner. The Homestarmy once attempted to conquer Strong Badia (see below), but appears to represent no cohesive political movement (other than expressing discontent stemming from "playing second fiddle to a two-bit [[wrestleman]] and his yellow dog"). The King of Town has expressed an intention to exercise actual power, going so far as to mobilize [[The Municipality|his own military force]] headed up by [[The Poopsmith]], as seen in [[disconnected]].

Besides the King's castle (which would be the seat of government if the King's rule had any legitimacy), there is a different building containing a [[smoky office]] which has been used for various purposes, including a [[The Interview|newsroom]], [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|police station]], and a set for the ''[[Dangeresque (film series)|Dangeresque]]'' films.

The name and the currency used may imply that this town is in the United States of America, and in [[trading cards]] Strong Bad makes reference to himself "here in the states" when addressing a Canadian writer. Yet any further details, regarding what state or town "Free Country" is in is never mentioned. They may have to pay taxes, however, as evidenced by [[A Decemberween Pageant]] and [[Arcade Game]].

===Strong Badia===
[[Image:Strongbadia.png|thumb|150px|Strong Badia]]
Within Free Country's borders, the territory of [[Strong Badia]] exists as an autonomous enclave. Strong Badia has a [[flag day|flag]], a [[Strong Badia National Anthem|national anthem]], and has even had to [[The Battle of Strong Badia|defend its autonomy]] from [[Homestarmy|outside aggression]], as seen in [[army]]. Although Strong Bad said that Strong Badia doesn't have/need an army, the local gang, [[On Point Kings]], have transformed from being a simple group of guys hanging around to a band of shady <strike> missionaries</strike> mercenaries that specialize in black ops, brown ops, and the occasional beige op. Whether or not Strong Badia is a "real" country is open to debate, since the permanent population of Strong Badia is a [[tire]] and it's only the size of a backyard. A few email senders seem to call Free Country by this name, presumably because the characters talk about Strong Badia more often than Free Country. However, Strong Bad specifically addressed this issue in [[keep cool]], limiting the borders of Strong Badia to the empty lot.

==Other Territories==

Mentioned from time to time (and seen only via the depicted map) are other territories outside Free Country. If the circuitous path of Homestar's [[In Search of the Yello Dello|journey]] to [[Potamia]] for [[The Yello Dello]] is to be believed, Free Country borders the territory of [[Far Off Lands]]. Very little, if anything, is known about these territories or their relation to Free Country, although [[Prance]] is known to make at least one [[Hairstyle Runner|Homestar Runner-related product]].

According to the original Characters page and [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]], [[The Brothers Strong]] come from a land called Parts Unknown.

Strong Bad claims to have a secret family (surnamed Mudgeman) in a community named Broiter Grove. If there is any shred of truth to this supposition, it can be assumed this community is near Free Country, USA, as Strong Bad is clearly without a working car.

==Economics==

The economics of Free Country are as ambiguous as the locations and politics of the territory. The local currency is [[Wikipedia:Federal_Reserve_notes|U.S. dollars]], although this official currency is augmented by a strong barter system that allows trade of goods and services (further suggesting that the government has no central banking power); most local commerce occurs at [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. Pencil shavings have been accepted by [[Bubs]] at least twice, in [[lackey]] and [[secret identity]]. Also, in a Easter Egg in [[colonization]], Homestar declares that 'Dirty [[Diapers]]' were to no longer be considered legal tender. In the email [[flag day]] a coin is visible that resembles a quarter. It is the same color, appears to be the same size, and has a face and words on both sides of it as well as words on the top and bottom of the coin. The date on it would be on the wrong side, though. The face on this coin is Strong Bad's. This implies that it is Strong Badian money, which implies Strong Badia is its own country. Strong Bad could be making this coin up because it has some of the words of the song he is currently singing printed on it. It seems that there is some crabbing industry, as there are crab traps at the wharf (which often claim baby seals), even though this supposed wharf has never been seen.

Bubs' Concession Stand is known to accept these forms of currency:
*Cash
*Money
*Cash Money
*Pencil Shavings (added to the sign by the Cheat)
[[Image:Bubs Last Stand.PNG|thumb|150px|Bubs' Concession Stand]]

It is also unclear as to how rent or mortgages on the houses owned by Free Country residents is paid. [[Strong Bad]] mentions in [[colonization]] that he had to give [[Bubs]] his first and last month's rent deposits, but other than that, no other characters have mentioned how or when they pay rent.
===Employment===
:''Main article: [[Occupations]]''
Bubs works at his stand as a general fix-it man. He has also been seen as a mechanical worker at [[The Office]], and as a bartender at [[Club Technochocolate]]. [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]], [[Strong Bad]] (though Homestar and Strong Bad apparently took their athletic careers more seriously at one time), [[The Cheat]] (when not doing freelance Flash work), and [[Pom Pom]] work in some kind of an office, at least occasionally. Homestar also hosts [[The Show]]. [[Strong Bad]], in addition, had a "part, part, part, part, very part time job" as a giant [[Tragic Clown Dog]] mascot at [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] in [[part-time job]]. He quit that job, however, when he realized that he needed to rush back to Marzipan's house to finish his email before the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] lost its battery charge. [[Strong Mad]] appears to work as a bouncer at [[Club Technochocolate]]. [[Coach Z]] is presumably some kind of a coach and a gym class teacher; he has also been seen working as a custodian at the office and as a [[Drive-Thru Whale|mascot]] for [[Blubb-O's]] restaurant. [[The King of Town]] employs [[The Poopsmith]] for reasons he does not care to disclose as well as a [[The Little Chef Guy|chef]], a [[The Blacksmith|blacksmith]], a [[The Hornblower|hornblower]], a [[The Cleric|cleric]], and a [[The Knight|knight]]. Marzipan, The Cheat, and Strong Mad are in a band named [[Cool Tapes]], which tours and sells 7's for [[pi]] dollars. Marzipan additionally runs a kindergarten class which includes Homestar, [[Homsar]] and [[Strong Mad]]. [[Senor Cardgage]] has had several shady jobs, such as a mortgage seller, owner of an online e-niversity, and lastly, with a somewhat stable job as an usher at the local [[The Movie Theater|theater]]. It has not been revealed whether the remaining characters have jobs.

==Free Country Through Time==

In addition to its current, contemporary depiction, Free Country has been shown in the past and possibly in the future.
[[Image:1936field.png|thumb|150px|Old-Timey Free Country]]
===Old-Timey Free Country===

In the [[Old-Timey|1930s]], Free Country was characterized by dirt roads, picket fences, carnival tents, antiquated Industrial Revolution-era factories, and even a [[Cholera Acres Cemetary|graveyard]], only the latter of which may have survived the passage of time. As with the rest of the USA during this time period, Free Country was [[Wikipedia:Great Depression|economically depressed]], with the population being forced to subsist on dry meal, water soup, and parsnips. Commerce, such as it was, was located at a [[Parsnip Depot|dilapidated depot]].

There was a growing, through sponsorship funds, radio (name still unknown) which had a drama - "The Fish Was Delish Progrum", in which Sir Strong Bad already was building up his showman career.

And, though there is some debate as to whether or not Free Country was still under [[Wikipedia:Prohibition|Prohibition]] during this time period, some residents enjoyed the occasional nip of [[Wikipedia:Alcoholic beverage|hooch]] regardless.

[[Image:Freepetrydishusa.PNG|thumb|right|150px|Home to a bunch of plucky parameciums]]

===Free Petry Dish USA===
In the email [[highschool]], Strong Bad claims that the entirety of Free Country, USA was, in the past, merely on a petri dish, with all its inhabitants being single-cell organisms. However, considering his purported "unphotographic memory", it's unlikely that such a place ever truly existed.
[[Image:planetk.png|thumb|150px|20X6 Free Country]]

===Futuristic Free Country?===

In the futuristic year [[20X6]], Free Country may or may not be one and the same as [[Planet K]], which looks much like the current Free Country. If so, Free Country will grow to feature significantly more architecture to the extent of having a full city (a quality the territory currently lacks). Nothing is yet known about the economic or political state of this ultramodern version of Free Country, though there is a significantly higher frequency of fights and challenges faced by its residents, which include various robots. They appear to be located in the same region, however, as Strong Bad buries a time capsule that is later discovered by Stinkoman.

==Estimated Real-World Location==

Viewers of Homestar Runner have variously speculated about the "real" location of Free Country, USA, though it is generally assumed [[The Brothers Chaps]] prefer to leave its location undetermined.

Each time the world is seen from space, the shape of the United States is easily recognizable. The characters speak with American accents, type with American spelling, celebrate many American [[holidays]], and make references to elements of American culture (such as its [[presidents]]). Most obvious is the fact that "USA" is in the name. On a side note, America is widely known as a "free country." Therefore, it seems safe to conclude that Free Country, USA is somewhere in America. This may be the closest one can come to determining a location for Free Country, USA, as many of the following observations are contradictory to one another.

*The scene in the [[Theme Song Video]] where Homestar runs around the planet and a star appears on a United States map would lead one to believe it's possible that Free Country is somewhere in northern Nebraska.
*In the email [[radio]], the [[Crazy Go Nuts University|CGNU]] radio station's call letters are given as [[Radio Stations and Shows|WSBD]], as are "Numbitty 902's" WA3D FM. Real-world radio designations would place Free Country east of the Mississippi river.
*Free Country is likely in a northern latitude or high altitude given the snowy weather around [[Decemberween]].
*In the email [[anything]], Homestar refers to his two liter bottle of [[Mountain Dew]] as "soda", which is a term more used in the northeast and in the west. In parts of the Upper Midwest it is frequently called "pop".
*The Brothers Chaps themselves live in Atlanta, Georgia, making it possible that Free Country is located in the Southeast.
*In [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], Marzipan references baby seals and crab traps at the wharf, suggesting that Free Country is near the ocean, or at least a salt-water body.
**This might just show that there is a large lake nearby.
**This might just show that they import seals and crabs and trap them at a place called "the wharf."
*In [[Homestar vs. Other Little Girl]], Homestar claims he does ''not'' live in Texas.
*In the end of [[Where the Crap Are We?]], Homestar thinks he and Strong Bad are in Massachusetts, which would indicate that they are not from there.
*In [[Weclome Back]], [[Cool Tapes]] did a midwest tour, indicating that they may be from around there.
*In [[colonization]], [[Strong Bad]] and [[Bubs]] share some "cold Hardee's he had lying around", which implies that Free Country may be in the Eastern half of the USA (In the Western half of the US, "Hardee's" is called "Carl's Jr.").
*In the email [[keep cool]], the temperature was 98ºF, but in all the Decemberween episodes, there is snow, suggesting that Free Country is in a state where the climate varies greatly.
*In the email [[retirement]], [[Strong Bad]] tells the audience to "feast their Dust Bowl-ravaged eyes" on his show. This suggests that they might be in the Great Plains area.
*In [[Main Page 11]], Downloads shows a weather map of the eastern region of the United States, suggesting that Free Country, USA is in the eastern half of the USA.

== Trivia ==
*The [[Strong Bad Email]] [[flashback]] marked the first time that a character actually said the name "Free Country, USA." Homestar also said the name "Free Country, USA." in Episode 1 of [[Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People]].

[[Category: Places]]

Taranchula

2008-08-19T22:55:56Z

WP CEO:

{{Infobox Band |
band_name=Taranchula|
image= [[Image:taranchulapeople.png|230px|The Band Members]] |
origin= [[Wikipedia:Scandinavia|Scandinavia]]|
genre=[[Wikipedia:Death metal|Death]]/[[Wikipedia:Thrash metal|Thrash]] [[Heavy Metal|Metal]] |
member=Dave Bjornborg Dave Olafstenston Schenkel McDoo |
backup= Unknown |
discography="[[Moving Very Slowly]]" (2003) "[[death metal#Transcript|The Decoupage]]" (2005) "[[your funeral#Transcript|Brother In A Jar]]" (2007) "[[more armies#Easter Eggs|Shady Missionaries]]" (2007) "[[Marshie vs. Little Girl#Easter Eggs|Poison the Dragons]]" (2007) "[[Trudgemank]]" (2008) |
producer=[[Teeg Dougland|Mort Dougland]] |
}}

'''Taranchula''' is a death [[Heavy Metal|metal]] band first mentioned in the Strong Bad Email "[[band names]]." The members of the band are Dave Bjornborg, Dave Olafstenston, and Schenkel McDoo. Their only known songs are "[[Moving Very Slowly]]" from ''[[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]]'' (heard briefly during the email [[fingers]]), "The Decoupage" (whose video is directed by [[Teeg Dougland|Mort Dougland]]), "Brother In A Jar" (composed for [[Strong Bad]]'s would-be [[your funeral|funeral]]) and "[[Trudgemank]]", featuring [[Peacey P]] (which The Cheat animated a music video for). Also, in the Strong Bad Email [[montage]], Strong Bad can be seen listening to a Taranchula album with the [[Wagon Fulla Pancakes]], and in the email [[more armies]], an Easter egg reveals their album ''Shady Missionaries.'' They might be based on Sepultura, a Brazilian thrash metal band that uses stop motion animation in their videos, much like Taranchula's clip in [[death metal]]. The picture of Taranchula in the ''Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits'' insert is very reminiscent of [[Wikipedia:Glenn Danzig|Glenn Danzig]].

The video for "The Decoupage" is perhaps a spoof of the band [[Wikipedia:Tool (band)|Tool]]'s video for their single "Sober", as both videos are stop motion and feature a shapeless creature slithering about the sets of the videos. In Tool's case, the creature is of [[Wikipedia:Sober (Tool song)#Video|unknown origins]]; in Taranchula's case, it is a piece of meat.

The video for "Moving Very Slowly" was released on the [[strongbad_email.exe|Strong Bad Email DVD]].

The band also appears on the ''[[Half-Hour Death Metal Dungeon Hour]]'' in the email [[death metal]].

The three members of the band are portrayed by [[Matt Chapman|Matt]], [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] and [[Matt Chapman|another Matt]].

Products endorsed by the band include the [[Taranchula Black Metal Detector]], from [[Videlectrix]] Kidx, and [[Cold Ones]] Dry.

Taranchula's logo is very similar to that of [[Wikipedia:Immolation (band)|Immolation]], a popular death metal band.

{|
|-
| [[image:Taranchula.PNG|none|220px]]
| [[image:Immolation_logo.jpg|none|220px|]]
|}

==Songs==

*Brother In A Jar
*Moving Very Slowly
*Trudgemank
*Down With The Decoupage

==Albums==

*Shady Missionaries
*Taranchula

==Complete Filmography==
*'''Debut:''' Email [[band names]] (logo)
*Email [[fingers]]
*Email [[montage]]
*Email [[death metal]]
*Email [[your funeral]]
*Email [[more armies]]
*Email [[buried]]
*PBTC [[Trudgemank]] (featuring [[Peacey P]])

==Trivia==
*Bjornborg is a play on Swedish tennis legend [[Wikipedia: Björn Borg|Björn Borg]].
*McDoo is actually more of a [[Wikipedia:Gaelic|Gaelic]] name.

==Quotes of the Week==
{{qotwstart}}
*{{qotw|"Yah guys! Maybe find some coin!"|[[buried]]|Mirror:schenkel_coin.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Ooh hoo ha ha haaa. Brother in a jar. Brother in a jar. Brotherinajar!"|[[your funeral]]|Mirror:brotherinajar.mp3}}
|}

[[Category: Bands]]
[[Category:Strong Bad Email Spin-offs]]

Taranchula

2008-08-19T22:54:30Z

WP CEO:

{{Infobox Band |
band_name=Taranchula|
image= [[Image:taranchulapeople.png|230px|The Band Members]] |
origin= [[Wikipedia:Scandinavia|Scandinavia]]|
genre=[[Wikipedia:Death metal|Death]]/[[Wikipedia:Thrash metal|Thrash]] [[Heavy Metal|Metal]] |
member=Dave Bjornborg Dave Olafstenston Schenkel McDoo |
backup= Unknown |
discography="[[Moving Very Slowly]]" (2003) "[[death metal#Transcript|The Decoupage]]" (2005) "[[your funeral#Transcript|Brother In A Jar]]" (2007) "[[more armies#Easter Eggs|Shady Missionaries]]" (2007) "[[Marshie vs. Little Girl#Easter Eggs|Poison the Dragons]]" (2007) "[[Trudgemank]]" (2008) |
producer=[[Teeg Dougland|Mort Dougland]] |
}}

'''Taranchula''' is a death [[Heavy Metal|metal]] band first mentioned in the Strong Bad Email "[[band names]]." The members of the band are Dave Bjornborg, Dave Olafstenston, and Schenkel McDoo. Their only known songs are "[[Moving Very Slowly]]" from ''[[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]]'' (heard briefly during the email [[fingers]]), "The Decoupage" (whose video is directed by [[Teeg Dougland|Mort Dougland]]), "Brother In A Jar" (composed for [[Strong Bad]]'s would-be [[your funeral|funeral]]) and "[[Trudgemank]]", featuring Peacey P (which The Cheat animated a music video for). Also, in the Strong Bad Email [[montage]], Strong Bad can be seen listening to a Taranchula album with the [[Wagon Fulla Pancakes]], and in the email [[more armies]], an Easter egg reveals their album ''Shady Missionaries.'' They might be based on Sepultura, a Brazilian thrash metal band that uses stop motion animation in their videos, much like Taranchula's clip in [[death metal]]. The picture of Taranchula in the ''Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits'' insert is very reminiscent of [[Wikipedia:Glenn Danzig|Glenn Danzig]].

The video for "The Decoupage" is perhaps a spoof of the band [[Wikipedia:Tool (band)|Tool]]'s video for their single "Sober", as both videos are stop motion and feature a shapeless creature slithering about the sets of the videos. In Tool's case, the creature is of [[Wikipedia:Sober (Tool song)#Video|unknown origins]]; in Taranchula's case, it is a piece of meat.

The video for "Moving Very Slowly" was released on the [[strongbad_email.exe|Strong Bad Email DVD]].

The band also appears on the ''[[Half-Hour Death Metal Dungeon Hour]]'' in the email [[death metal]].

The three members of the band are portrayed by [[Matt Chapman|Matt]], [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] and [[Matt Chapman|another Matt]].

Products endorsed by the band include the [[Taranchula Black Metal Detector]], from [[Videlectrix]] Kidx, and [[Cold Ones]] Dry.

Taranchula's logo is very similar to that of [[Wikipedia:Immolation (band)|Immolation]], a popular death metal band.

{|
|-
| [[image:Taranchula.PNG|none|220px]]
| [[image:Immolation_logo.jpg|none|220px|]]
|}

==Songs==

*Brother In A Jar
*Moving Very Slowly
*Trudgemank
*Down With The Decoupage

==Albums==

*Shady Missionaries
*Taranchula

==Complete Filmography==
*'''Debut:''' Email [[band names]] (logo)
*Email [[fingers]]
*Email [[montage]]
*Email [[death metal]]
*Email [[your funeral]]
*Email [[more armies]]
*Email [[buried]]
*PBTC [[Trudgemank]] (featuring [[Peacey P]])

==Trivia==
*Bjornborg is a play on Swedish tennis legend [[Wikipedia: Björn Borg|Björn Borg]].
*McDoo is actually more of a [[Wikipedia:Gaelic|Gaelic]] name.

==Quotes of the Week==
{{qotwstart}}
*{{qotw|"Yah guys! Maybe find some coin!"|[[buried]]|Mirror:schenkel_coin.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Ooh hoo ha ha haaa. Brother in a jar. Brother in a jar. Brotherinajar!"|[[your funeral]]|Mirror:brotherinajar.mp3}}
|}

[[Category: Bands]]
[[Category:Strong Bad Email Spin-offs]]

Taranchula

2008-08-19T22:53:52Z

WP CEO:

{{Infobox Band |
band_name=Taranchula|
image= [[Image:taranchulapeople.png|230px|The Band Members]] |
origin= [[Wikipedia:Scandinavia|Scandinavia]]|
genre=[[Wikipedia:Death metal|Death]]/[[Wikipedia:Thrash metal|Thrash]] [[Heavy Metal|Metal]] |
member=Dave Bjornborg Dave Olafstenston Schenkel McDoo |
backup= Unknown |
discography="[[Moving Very Slowly]]" (2003) "[[death metal#Transcript|The Decoupage]]" (2005) "[[your funeral#Transcript|Brother In A Jar]]" (2007) "[[more armies#Easter Eggs|Shady Missionaries]]" (2007) "[[Marshie vs. Little Girl#Easter Eggs|Poison the Dragons]]" (2007) "[[Trudgemank]]" (2008) |
producer=[[Teeg Dougland|Mort Dougland]] |
}}

'''Taranchula''' is a death [[Heavy Metal|metal]] band first mentioned in the Strong Bad Email "[[band names]]." The members of the band are Dave Bjornborg, Dave Olafstenston, and Schenkel McDoo. Their only known songs are "[[Moving Very Slowly]]" from ''[[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]]'' (heard briefly during the email [[fingers]]), "The Decoupage" (whose video is directed by [[Teeg Dougland|Mort Dougland]]), "Brother In A Jar" (composed for [[Strong Bad]]'s would-be [[your funeral|funeral]]) and "Trudgemank", featuring Peacey P (which The Cheat animated a music video for). Also, in the Strong Bad Email [[montage]], Strong Bad can be seen listening to a Taranchula album with the [[Wagon Fulla Pancakes]], and in the email [[more armies]], an Easter egg reveals their album ''Shady Missionaries.'' They might be based on Sepultura, a Brazilian thrash metal band that uses stop motion animation in their videos, much like Taranchula's clip in [[death metal]]. The picture of Taranchula in the ''Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits'' insert is very reminiscent of [[Wikipedia:Glenn Danzig|Glenn Danzig]].

The video for "The Decoupage" is perhaps a spoof of the band [[Wikipedia:Tool (band)|Tool]]'s video for their single "Sober", as both videos are stop motion and feature a shapeless creature slithering about the sets of the videos. In Tool's case, the creature is of [[Wikipedia:Sober (Tool song)#Video|unknown origins]]; in Taranchula's case, it is a piece of meat.

The video for "Moving Very Slowly" was released on the [[strongbad_email.exe|Strong Bad Email DVD]].

The band also appears on the ''[[Half-Hour Death Metal Dungeon Hour]]'' in the email [[death metal]].

The three members of the band are portrayed by [[Matt Chapman|Matt]], [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] and [[Matt Chapman|another Matt]].

Products endorsed by the band include the [[Taranchula Black Metal Detector]], from [[Videlectrix]] Kidx, and [[Cold Ones]] Dry.

Taranchula's logo is very similar to that of [[Wikipedia:Immolation (band)|Immolation]], a popular death metal band.

{|
|-
| [[image:Taranchula.PNG|none|220px]]
| [[image:Immolation_logo.jpg|none|220px|]]
|}

==Songs==

*Brother In A Jar
*Moving Very Slowly
*Trudgemank
*Down With The Decoupage

==Albums==

*Shady Missionaries
*Taranchula

==Complete Filmography==
*'''Debut:''' Email [[band names]] (logo)
*Email [[fingers]]
*Email [[montage]]
*Email [[death metal]]
*Email [[your funeral]]
*Email [[more armies]]
*Email [[buried]]
*PBTC [[Trudgemank]] (featuring [[Peacey P]])

==Trivia==
*Bjornborg is a play on Swedish tennis legend [[Wikipedia: Björn Borg|Björn Borg]].
*McDoo is actually more of a [[Wikipedia:Gaelic|Gaelic]] name.

==Quotes of the Week==
{{qotwstart}}
*{{qotw|"Yah guys! Maybe find some coin!"|[[buried]]|Mirror:schenkel_coin.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Ooh hoo ha ha haaa. Brother in a jar. Brother in a jar. Brotherinajar!"|[[your funeral]]|Mirror:brotherinajar.mp3}}
|}

[[Category: Bands]]
[[Category:Strong Bad Email Spin-offs]]

Talk:Marzipan's House

2008-06-16T00:05:51Z

WP CEO:

Is Marzipan's Kitchen actually Homestar's?

It's been generaly accepted that the kitchen in question belong's to Marzipan, but there is actually only one piece of evidence to support this and it isn't rock-solid; In "Wher's The Cheat?", Homestar makes a veggie-burger in the kitchen, then deliver's it to Marzipan in her living room in the next scene. While this certainly makes it seem like the kitchen is right next to the living room, it is also a possibility that we simply didn't see Homestar walking over to her house from his.

Other facts that indicate that the kitchen is Homestar's:
*Marzipan is never, ever seen in the kitchen, but Homestar is in every appearance.
*Homestar acts as if the kitchen were his own.
*Mrs. Bennedetto and Fluffy Puff Mayonaise are items in the kitchen that more than likely would belong to Homestar.

:Wasn't Marzipan seen in the kitchen in [[radio]]? Besides, Homestar is KNOWN for wandering into people's houses uninvited, and it seems awfully silly (even for Homestar) to wander across town carrying a veggie-burger on a plate. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:03, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Ooooooh... right. Ok... this is awkward... I take it all back now so shut up kid!

Okay, here's something... In the Toon "Cool Things", Marzipan's front porch looks exactly like Homestar's. So forget the whole kitchen thing; the new question is do Homestar and Marzipan live together (A common occurrance in boyfriend-girlfriend relationships)? Or are their houses just the same (A common occurrance in urban planning)?

I'm too insecure to make these changes myself, but:
1) Isn't "portrait" perhaps not the best word for the "Thank you" thing? I mean, technically a portrait ''can'' be a non-representative work of art, but most people think of it as a representation of a person.
2) The assertion that this artwork was "theoretically produced by Homsar" is unsupported by any link or reference. Is this one person's speculation, or a reference to a fact divulged somewhere (in which case it should be explained and linked)?
3) In what sense does Marzipan's house appear in the email [[labor day]]?

To answer your questions: 1. Portrait IS perhaps not the best word, but it works 2. Homsar used the line 'thank you' on his Main Page 3. In the Shenectedy Chrispies Easter egg, Strong Bad delivers a commercial in the kitchen of Marzipan's house. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Just because he says "Thank You" doesn't mean he made the "portrait," now does it? There are plenty of other instances in which other characters say "Thank You," I'm sure. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 19:20, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::I fixed it. Marzy has said thank you, homestar has said thanks, strong bad has said thanks, etc. etc. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:20, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

We finally see her in her kitchen during [[narrator]]. Also, should something be mentioned that she doesn't lock her door(s) very well? As evidenced by the Marzipan Answering Machine 13.2, Homestar, The Cheat, and the KoT can get in while she's away. It's possible that Homestar has a key or knows where she keeps her hidden spare key and left it unlocked once he got in. However, The Cheat and the KoT are surprized to find each other at the end which would lead us to believe that they came in different ways. 
I don't think Homestar and Marzipan live together. Here's why:
#In [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], it seems as though Marzipan has been celebrating Decemberween long before Homestar woke up.
#In [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], Homestar bangs on the door to be let in to the party. If he lived here this would most likely not have happened.
#Homestar keeps leaving messages on her answering machine
#Her answering machine only says that she lives there
:*It can be noted that they may have two lines and that her answering machine is on her line only.
{{User:NFITC1/sig}}

It's further unlikely because they have two different living rooms. Homestar's has a wood floor and green walls; Marzipan's has a red rug and blue/yellow walls. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:31, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
: For further confusion and talkings on the subject by The Brothers Chaps, see the Talk page for [[Play Date]]! --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 00:05, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

== ...what? ==

"This painting was theoretically shown as a parody of Readymade art [...]" 
When are we ever, ever, ''ever'' given any indication that the Thank You painting is a parody of readymades? It's just a thing hanging on the wall. I mean, one could say that Homestar's whiteness is a parody of mimes...but it's probably not. I'm guessing that the "theoretically" was added in to make it more ambiguous, but the phrase sounds incredibly out of place no matter what. I'm going to be bold and remove it; if anybody's got an Everything Else commentary that proves this, I'll hush, but it still needs to be reworded and put in a less awkward position in the article. --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 07:41, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Homestar Runner's House

2008-06-15T23:28:59Z

WP CEO: /* the chair? */

{{featuredarticle}}
==Kudos==
Clap-clap to the person who re-did this page. Nice work. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

Thank you. :) - someone

Kudos to Firebird for re-redoing this page. MUCH better. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 18:35, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)

I got this picture for the page. It's the same as that one, but with out the characters. [http://img225.exs.cx/img225/7574/homestarpad8ww.jpg]

:That's a pretty nice shot, but it needs to meet certain [[HRWiki:Standards#Screenshot|image]] [[HRWiki:Standards|standards]] first. Once you've cleared that up, you can upload the image to the Wiki yourself by creating a user account. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:03, 4 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Homestar's Room info location ==
Tom, I saw you created a separate page for [[Homestar's Room]]. I was just wondering if another option might be to keep it here, and have a redirect from [[Homestar's Room]] to here. I don't necessarily think one way is better right now, it depends on what happens in the future - whether we see more parts of Homestar's house (where we might want one page rather than several), or if we start having so much to say about his room that it really needs its own page. Just a thought.
And how do you create a redirect, anyway? --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 23:03, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I actually didn't create [[Homestar's Room]], per se. I just noticed that when someone else created it to match up with the [[Strong Sad's Room]], [[Strong Bad's Room]], and [[Strong Mad's Room]] articles. I then copied the info that was on the [[Homestar's House]] page into the room article and added the proper cat.
:And instructions for creating redirects can be found in the [[Help:Editing#Links.2C_URLs|Links, URLs]] section of the [[Help:Editing|editing help]] page.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:05, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

We have merged the Room info back into the house info at this time. The other individual rooms have a bit of history and multiple appearances, while Homeslice's room is a one-off. When his room becomes a little more interesting on it's own it can get it's own page, where it can live and laugh and grow. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:26, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Homestar's House in Old Toons ==
Given the appearance of Homestar's house in [[rampage]] as well as the Christmas toons, I think we can be pretty sure now that the regular house with siding is actually Homestar's house and the house in the old toons is not. Maybe we should change the article to reflect that. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:43, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==Location==
Does anyone think that it is important to note that Homestar's house is 15 minutes away from the concession stand? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:I wouldn't say he's exactly 15 min. away. I'd say it's approx. 15 minutes away. In [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], He wakes up at 10:00pm and gets to BCS at 10:15. It must've taken him a couple of minutes to gell him clothing and gear on since he ran out naked. ''[[User:Maggot Man|Maggot Man]] 23:04, 2 June 2006 (UTC)''

== Table ==

Does anyone know what model of IKEA table Homestar's is modeled after, or at least bears the most resemblance to? Thanks.--{{User:The4sword/sig}} 22:31, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

== the chair? ==

Has anyone noticed that it's pretty much the same house Strong Bad threw the flaming newspaper at in [[the chair]]?

: Hey, you are right! It is identical! I think it should be noted in the article, close to the Homestar's House/Hut deal. --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 23:04, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== The walls ==

Homestar used to have green walls. Now they are blue. Shall this be noted? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:[[:Image:Homestarhouseempty.PNG|This]] is not [[:Image:marzipanscouch.PNG|this]]. Though [[:Image:MarzipanHouseExtCoolThings.png|Marzipan's house]] looks like [[:Image:Outside Homestars House.PNG|Homestar's]] from the outside, they're very different. Homestar just hangs out in Marzipan's house a lot. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:09, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== Play Date ==

I think that [[Play Date]] should not be mentioned in this article.
Listing it as one of the toons in which we have seen the interior is plain ol' wrong - we never see any interior other than that of [[Marzipan's House]] in Play Date.
As for the exterior, it is possible that it is Homestar's house we see when Homestar is standing in the front door talking to Strong Mad - the house we see is identical to previous appearances of Homestar's house - but if so, this is very likely a mistake done by The Brothers Chaps. --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 23:16, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:Agreed. Homestar just hangs around in Marzipan's house a lot. Additionally, [[:Image:MarzipanHouseExtCoolThings.png|Marzipan's house]] looks like [[:Image:Outside Homestars House.PNG|Homestar's]] from the outside. It's probably not a mistake. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:19, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
::The two houses are similar from the outside, yes, but the difference lies in the design of the front porch. Marzipan's railing is longer and bends at the middle, while Homestar's just goes straight down. Therefore, I still think TBC made a mistake. --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 23:25, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Homestar Runner's House

2008-06-15T23:28:41Z

WP CEO: /* the chair? */

{{featuredarticle}}
==Kudos==
Clap-clap to the person who re-did this page. Nice work. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

Thank you. :) - someone

Kudos to Firebird for re-redoing this page. MUCH better. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 18:35, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)

I got this picture for the page. It's the same as that one, but with out the characters. [http://img225.exs.cx/img225/7574/homestarpad8ww.jpg]

:That's a pretty nice shot, but it needs to meet certain [[HRWiki:Standards#Screenshot|image]] [[HRWiki:Standards|standards]] first. Once you've cleared that up, you can upload the image to the Wiki yourself by creating a user account. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:03, 4 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Homestar's Room info location ==
Tom, I saw you created a separate page for [[Homestar's Room]]. I was just wondering if another option might be to keep it here, and have a redirect from [[Homestar's Room]] to here. I don't necessarily think one way is better right now, it depends on what happens in the future - whether we see more parts of Homestar's house (where we might want one page rather than several), or if we start having so much to say about his room that it really needs its own page. Just a thought.
And how do you create a redirect, anyway? --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 23:03, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I actually didn't create [[Homestar's Room]], per se. I just noticed that when someone else created it to match up with the [[Strong Sad's Room]], [[Strong Bad's Room]], and [[Strong Mad's Room]] articles. I then copied the info that was on the [[Homestar's House]] page into the room article and added the proper cat.
:And instructions for creating redirects can be found in the [[Help:Editing#Links.2C_URLs|Links, URLs]] section of the [[Help:Editing|editing help]] page.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:05, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

We have merged the Room info back into the house info at this time. The other individual rooms have a bit of history and multiple appearances, while Homeslice's room is a one-off. When his room becomes a little more interesting on it's own it can get it's own page, where it can live and laugh and grow. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:26, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Homestar's House in Old Toons ==
Given the appearance of Homestar's house in [[rampage]] as well as the Christmas toons, I think we can be pretty sure now that the regular house with siding is actually Homestar's house and the house in the old toons is not. Maybe we should change the article to reflect that. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:43, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==Location==
Does anyone think that it is important to note that Homestar's house is 15 minutes away from the concession stand? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:I wouldn't say he's exactly 15 min. away. I'd say it's approx. 15 minutes away. In [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], He wakes up at 10:00pm and gets to BCS at 10:15. It must've taken him a couple of minutes to gell him clothing and gear on since he ran out naked. ''[[User:Maggot Man|Maggot Man]] 23:04, 2 June 2006 (UTC)''

== Table ==

Does anyone know what model of IKEA table Homestar's is modeled after, or at least bears the most resemblance to? Thanks.--{{User:The4sword/sig}} 22:31, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

== the chair? ==

Has anyone noticed that it's pretty much the same house Strong Bad threw the flaming newspaper at in [[the chair]]?

: Hey, you are right! It's identical! I think it should be noted in the article, close to the Homestar's House/Hut deal. --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 23:04, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== The walls ==

Homestar used to have green walls. Now they are blue. Shall this be noted? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:[[:Image:Homestarhouseempty.PNG|This]] is not [[:Image:marzipanscouch.PNG|this]]. Though [[:Image:MarzipanHouseExtCoolThings.png|Marzipan's house]] looks like [[:Image:Outside Homestars House.PNG|Homestar's]] from the outside, they're very different. Homestar just hangs out in Marzipan's house a lot. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:09, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== Play Date ==

I think that [[Play Date]] should not be mentioned in this article.
Listing it as one of the toons in which we have seen the interior is plain ol' wrong - we never see any interior other than that of [[Marzipan's House]] in Play Date.
As for the exterior, it is possible that it is Homestar's house we see when Homestar is standing in the front door talking to Strong Mad - the house we see is identical to previous appearances of Homestar's house - but if so, this is very likely a mistake done by The Brothers Chaps. --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 23:16, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:Agreed. Homestar just hangs around in Marzipan's house a lot. Additionally, [[:Image:MarzipanHouseExtCoolThings.png|Marzipan's house]] looks like [[:Image:Outside Homestars House.PNG|Homestar's]] from the outside. It's probably not a mistake. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:19, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
::The two houses are similar from the outside, yes, but the difference lies in the design of the front porch. Marzipan's railing is longer and bends at the middle, while Homestar's just goes straight down. Therefore, I still think TBC made a mistake. --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 23:25, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Homestar Runner's House

2008-06-15T23:25:27Z

WP CEO: /* Play Date */

{{featuredarticle}}
==Kudos==
Clap-clap to the person who re-did this page. Nice work. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

Thank you. :) - someone

Kudos to Firebird for re-redoing this page. MUCH better. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 18:35, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)

I got this picture for the page. It's the same as that one, but with out the characters. [http://img225.exs.cx/img225/7574/homestarpad8ww.jpg]

:That's a pretty nice shot, but it needs to meet certain [[HRWiki:Standards#Screenshot|image]] [[HRWiki:Standards|standards]] first. Once you've cleared that up, you can upload the image to the Wiki yourself by creating a user account. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:03, 4 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Homestar's Room info location ==
Tom, I saw you created a separate page for [[Homestar's Room]]. I was just wondering if another option might be to keep it here, and have a redirect from [[Homestar's Room]] to here. I don't necessarily think one way is better right now, it depends on what happens in the future - whether we see more parts of Homestar's house (where we might want one page rather than several), or if we start having so much to say about his room that it really needs its own page. Just a thought.
And how do you create a redirect, anyway? --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 23:03, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I actually didn't create [[Homestar's Room]], per se. I just noticed that when someone else created it to match up with the [[Strong Sad's Room]], [[Strong Bad's Room]], and [[Strong Mad's Room]] articles. I then copied the info that was on the [[Homestar's House]] page into the room article and added the proper cat.
:And instructions for creating redirects can be found in the [[Help:Editing#Links.2C_URLs|Links, URLs]] section of the [[Help:Editing|editing help]] page.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:05, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

We have merged the Room info back into the house info at this time. The other individual rooms have a bit of history and multiple appearances, while Homeslice's room is a one-off. When his room becomes a little more interesting on it's own it can get it's own page, where it can live and laugh and grow. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:26, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Homestar's House in Old Toons ==
Given the appearance of Homestar's house in [[rampage]] as well as the Christmas toons, I think we can be pretty sure now that the regular house with siding is actually Homestar's house and the house in the old toons is not. Maybe we should change the article to reflect that. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:43, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==Location==
Does anyone think that it is important to note that Homestar's house is 15 minutes away from the concession stand? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:I wouldn't say he's exactly 15 min. away. I'd say it's approx. 15 minutes away. In [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], He wakes up at 10:00pm and gets to BCS at 10:15. It must've taken him a couple of minutes to gell him clothing and gear on since he ran out naked. ''[[User:Maggot Man|Maggot Man]] 23:04, 2 June 2006 (UTC)''

== Table ==

Does anyone know what model of IKEA table Homestar's is modeled after, or at least bears the most resemblance to? Thanks.--{{User:The4sword/sig}} 22:31, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

== the chair? ==

Has anyone noticed that it's pretty much the same house Strong Bad threw the flaming newspaper at in [[the chair]]?

: Hey, you're right! It's identical! I think it should be noted in the article, close to the Homestar's House/Hut deal. --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 23:04, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== The walls ==

Homestar used to have green walls. Now they are blue. Shall this be noted? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:[[:Image:Homestarhouseempty.PNG|This]] is not [[:Image:marzipanscouch.PNG|this]]. Though [[:Image:MarzipanHouseExtCoolThings.png|Marzipan's house]] looks like [[:Image:Outside Homestars House.PNG|Homestar's]] from the outside, they're very different. Homestar just hangs out in Marzipan's house a lot. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:09, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== Play Date ==

I think that [[Play Date]] should not be mentioned in this article.
Listing it as one of the toons in which we have seen the interior is plain ol' wrong - we never see any interior other than that of [[Marzipan's House]] in Play Date.
As for the exterior, it is possible that it is Homestar's house we see when Homestar is standing in the front door talking to Strong Mad - the house we see is identical to previous appearances of Homestar's house - but if so, this is very likely a mistake done by The Brothers Chaps. --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 23:16, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:Agreed. Homestar just hangs around in Marzipan's house a lot. Additionally, [[:Image:MarzipanHouseExtCoolThings.png|Marzipan's house]] looks like [[:Image:Outside Homestars House.PNG|Homestar's]] from the outside. It's probably not a mistake. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:19, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
::The two houses are similar from the outside, yes, but the difference lies in the design of the front porch. Marzipan's railing is longer and bends at the middle, while Homestar's just goes straight down. Therefore, I still think TBC made a mistake. --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 23:25, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Homestar Runner's House

2008-06-15T23:17:04Z

WP CEO: /* Play Date */

{{featuredarticle}}
==Kudos==
Clap-clap to the person who re-did this page. Nice work. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

Thank you. :) - someone

Kudos to Firebird for re-redoing this page. MUCH better. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 18:35, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)

I got this picture for the page. It's the same as that one, but with out the characters. [http://img225.exs.cx/img225/7574/homestarpad8ww.jpg]

:That's a pretty nice shot, but it needs to meet certain [[HRWiki:Standards#Screenshot|image]] [[HRWiki:Standards|standards]] first. Once you've cleared that up, you can upload the image to the Wiki yourself by creating a user account. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:03, 4 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Homestar's Room info location ==
Tom, I saw you created a separate page for [[Homestar's Room]]. I was just wondering if another option might be to keep it here, and have a redirect from [[Homestar's Room]] to here. I don't necessarily think one way is better right now, it depends on what happens in the future - whether we see more parts of Homestar's house (where we might want one page rather than several), or if we start having so much to say about his room that it really needs its own page. Just a thought.
And how do you create a redirect, anyway? --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 23:03, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I actually didn't create [[Homestar's Room]], per se. I just noticed that when someone else created it to match up with the [[Strong Sad's Room]], [[Strong Bad's Room]], and [[Strong Mad's Room]] articles. I then copied the info that was on the [[Homestar's House]] page into the room article and added the proper cat.
:And instructions for creating redirects can be found in the [[Help:Editing#Links.2C_URLs|Links, URLs]] section of the [[Help:Editing|editing help]] page.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:05, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

We have merged the Room info back into the house info at this time. The other individual rooms have a bit of history and multiple appearances, while Homeslice's room is a one-off. When his room becomes a little more interesting on it's own it can get it's own page, where it can live and laugh and grow. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:26, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Homestar's House in Old Toons ==
Given the appearance of Homestar's house in [[rampage]] as well as the Christmas toons, I think we can be pretty sure now that the regular house with siding is actually Homestar's house and the house in the old toons is not. Maybe we should change the article to reflect that. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:43, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==Location==
Does anyone think that it is important to note that Homestar's house is 15 minutes away from the concession stand? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:I wouldn't say he's exactly 15 min. away. I'd say it's approx. 15 minutes away. In [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], He wakes up at 10:00pm and gets to BCS at 10:15. It must've taken him a couple of minutes to gell him clothing and gear on since he ran out naked. ''[[User:Maggot Man|Maggot Man]] 23:04, 2 June 2006 (UTC)''

== Table ==

Does anyone know what model of IKEA table Homestar's is modeled after, or at least bears the most resemblance to? Thanks.--{{User:The4sword/sig}} 22:31, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

== the chair? ==

Has anyone noticed that it's pretty much the same house Strong Bad threw the flaming newspaper at in [[the chair]]?

: Hey, you're right! It's identical! I think it should be noted in the article, close to the Homestar's House/Hut deal. --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 23:04, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== The walls ==

Homestar used to have green walls. Now they are blue. Shall this be noted? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:[[:Image:Homestarhouseempty.PNG|This]] is not [[:Image:marzipanscouch.PNG|this]]. Though [[:Image:MarzipanHouseExtCoolThings.png|Marzipan's house]] looks like [[:Image:Outside Homestars House.PNG|Homestar's]] from the outside, they're very different. Homestar just hangs out in Marzipan's house a lot. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:09, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== Play Date ==

I think that [[Play Date]] should not be mentioned in this article.
Listing it as one of the toons in which we have seen the interior is plain ol' wrong - we never see any interior other than that of [[Marzipan's House]] in Play Date.
As for the exterior, it is possible that it is Homestar's house we see when Homestar is standing in the front door talking to Strong Mad - the house we see is identical to previous appearances of Homestar's house - but if so, this is very likely a mistake done by The Brothers Chaps. --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 23:16, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Homestar Runner's House

2008-06-15T23:16:25Z

WP CEO: /**/Play Date

{{featuredarticle}}
==Kudos==
Clap-clap to the person who re-did this page. Nice work. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

Thank you. :) - someone

Kudos to Firebird for re-redoing this page. MUCH better. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 18:35, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)

I got this picture for the page. It's the same as that one, but with out the characters. [http://img225.exs.cx/img225/7574/homestarpad8ww.jpg]

:That's a pretty nice shot, but it needs to meet certain [[HRWiki:Standards#Screenshot|image]] [[HRWiki:Standards|standards]] first. Once you've cleared that up, you can upload the image to the Wiki yourself by creating a user account. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:03, 4 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Homestar's Room info location ==
Tom, I saw you created a separate page for [[Homestar's Room]]. I was just wondering if another option might be to keep it here, and have a redirect from [[Homestar's Room]] to here. I don't necessarily think one way is better right now, it depends on what happens in the future - whether we see more parts of Homestar's house (where we might want one page rather than several), or if we start having so much to say about his room that it really needs its own page. Just a thought.
And how do you create a redirect, anyway? --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 23:03, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I actually didn't create [[Homestar's Room]], per se. I just noticed that when someone else created it to match up with the [[Strong Sad's Room]], [[Strong Bad's Room]], and [[Strong Mad's Room]] articles. I then copied the info that was on the [[Homestar's House]] page into the room article and added the proper cat.
:And instructions for creating redirects can be found in the [[Help:Editing#Links.2C_URLs|Links, URLs]] section of the [[Help:Editing|editing help]] page.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:05, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

We have merged the Room info back into the house info at this time. The other individual rooms have a bit of history and multiple appearances, while Homeslice's room is a one-off. When his room becomes a little more interesting on it's own it can get it's own page, where it can live and laugh and grow. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:26, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Homestar's House in Old Toons ==
Given the appearance of Homestar's house in [[rampage]] as well as the Christmas toons, I think we can be pretty sure now that the regular house with siding is actually Homestar's house and the house in the old toons is not. Maybe we should change the article to reflect that. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:43, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==Location==
Does anyone think that it is important to note that Homestar's house is 15 minutes away from the concession stand? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:I wouldn't say he's exactly 15 min. away. I'd say it's approx. 15 minutes away. In [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], He wakes up at 10:00pm and gets to BCS at 10:15. It must've taken him a couple of minutes to gell him clothing and gear on since he ran out naked. ''[[User:Maggot Man|Maggot Man]] 23:04, 2 June 2006 (UTC)''

== Table ==

Does anyone know what model of IKEA table Homestar's is modeled after, or at least bears the most resemblance to? Thanks.--{{User:The4sword/sig}} 22:31, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

== the chair? ==

Has anyone noticed that it's pretty much the same house Strong Bad threw the flaming newspaper at in [[the chair]]?

: Hey, you're right! It's identical! I think it should be noted in the article, close to the Homestar's House/Hut deal. --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 23:04, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== The walls ==

Homestar used to have green walls. Now they are blue. Shall this be noted? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:[[:Image:Homestarhouseempty.PNG|This]] is not [[:Image:marzipanscouch.PNG|this]]. Though [[:Image:MarzipanHouseExtCoolThings.png|Marzipan's house]] looks like [[:Image:Outside Homestars House.PNG|Homestar's]] from the outside, they're very different. Homestar just hangs out in Marzipan's house a lot. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:09, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== Play Date ==

I think that [[Play Date]] should not be mentioned in this article.
Listing it as one of the toons in which we have seen the interior is plain ol' wrong - we never see any interior other than that of [[Marzipan's House]] in Play Date.
It is possible that it is Homestar's house we see when Homestar is standing in the front door talking to Strong Mad - the house we see is identical to previous appearances of Homestar's house - but if so, this is very likely a mistake done by The Brothers Chaps. --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 23:16, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Homestar Runner's House

2008-06-15T23:04:40Z

WP CEO: /* the chair? */

{{featuredarticle}}
==Kudos==
Clap-clap to the person who re-did this page. Nice work. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

Thank you. :) - someone

Kudos to Firebird for re-redoing this page. MUCH better. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 18:35, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)

I got this picture for the page. It's the same as that one, but with out the characters. [http://img225.exs.cx/img225/7574/homestarpad8ww.jpg]

:That's a pretty nice shot, but it needs to meet certain [[HRWiki:Standards#Screenshot|image]] [[HRWiki:Standards|standards]] first. Once you've cleared that up, you can upload the image to the Wiki yourself by creating a user account. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:03, 4 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Homestar's Room info location ==
Tom, I saw you created a separate page for [[Homestar's Room]]. I was just wondering if another option might be to keep it here, and have a redirect from [[Homestar's Room]] to here. I don't necessarily think one way is better right now, it depends on what happens in the future - whether we see more parts of Homestar's house (where we might want one page rather than several), or if we start having so much to say about his room that it really needs its own page. Just a thought.
And how do you create a redirect, anyway? --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 23:03, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I actually didn't create [[Homestar's Room]], per se. I just noticed that when someone else created it to match up with the [[Strong Sad's Room]], [[Strong Bad's Room]], and [[Strong Mad's Room]] articles. I then copied the info that was on the [[Homestar's House]] page into the room article and added the proper cat.
:And instructions for creating redirects can be found in the [[Help:Editing#Links.2C_URLs|Links, URLs]] section of the [[Help:Editing|editing help]] page.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:05, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

We have merged the Room info back into the house info at this time. The other individual rooms have a bit of history and multiple appearances, while Homeslice's room is a one-off. When his room becomes a little more interesting on it's own it can get it's own page, where it can live and laugh and grow. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:26, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Homestar's House in Old Toons ==
Given the appearance of Homestar's house in [[rampage]] as well as the Christmas toons, I think we can be pretty sure now that the regular house with siding is actually Homestar's house and the house in the old toons is not. Maybe we should change the article to reflect that. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:43, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==Location==
Does anyone think that it is important to note that Homestar's house is 15 minutes away from the concession stand? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:I wouldn't say he's exactly 15 min. away. I'd say it's approx. 15 minutes away. In [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], He wakes up at 10:00pm and gets to BCS at 10:15. It must've taken him a couple of minutes to gell him clothing and gear on since he ran out naked. ''[[User:Maggot Man|Maggot Man]] 23:04, 2 June 2006 (UTC)''

== Table ==

Does anyone know what model of IKEA table Homestar's is modeled after, or at least bears the most resemblance to? Thanks.--{{User:The4sword/sig}} 22:31, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

== the chair? ==

Has anyone noticed that it's pretty much the same house Strong Bad threw the flaming newspaper at in [[the chair]]?

: Hey, you're right! It's identical! I think it should be noted in the article, close to the Homestar's House/Hut deal. --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 23:04, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== The walls ==

Homestar used to have green walls. Now they are blue. Shall this be noted? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Homestar Runner's House

2008-06-15T23:04:26Z

WP CEO: /* the chair? */

{{featuredarticle}}
==Kudos==
Clap-clap to the person who re-did this page. Nice work. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

Thank you. :) - someone

Kudos to Firebird for re-redoing this page. MUCH better. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 18:35, 5 Jan 2005 (MST)

I got this picture for the page. It's the same as that one, but with out the characters. [http://img225.exs.cx/img225/7574/homestarpad8ww.jpg]

:That's a pretty nice shot, but it needs to meet certain [[HRWiki:Standards#Screenshot|image]] [[HRWiki:Standards|standards]] first. Once you've cleared that up, you can upload the image to the Wiki yourself by creating a user account. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:03, 4 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Homestar's Room info location ==
Tom, I saw you created a separate page for [[Homestar's Room]]. I was just wondering if another option might be to keep it here, and have a redirect from [[Homestar's Room]] to here. I don't necessarily think one way is better right now, it depends on what happens in the future - whether we see more parts of Homestar's house (where we might want one page rather than several), or if we start having so much to say about his room that it really needs its own page. Just a thought.
And how do you create a redirect, anyway? --[[User:BaconSandwich|BaconSandwich]] 23:03, 17 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I actually didn't create [[Homestar's Room]], per se. I just noticed that when someone else created it to match up with the [[Strong Sad's Room]], [[Strong Bad's Room]], and [[Strong Mad's Room]] articles. I then copied the info that was on the [[Homestar's House]] page into the room article and added the proper cat.
:And instructions for creating redirects can be found in the [[Help:Editing#Links.2C_URLs|Links, URLs]] section of the [[Help:Editing|editing help]] page.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:05, 19 Feb 2005 (MST)

We have merged the Room info back into the house info at this time. The other individual rooms have a bit of history and multiple appearances, while Homeslice's room is a one-off. When his room becomes a little more interesting on it's own it can get it's own page, where it can live and laugh and grow. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:26, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Homestar's House in Old Toons ==
Given the appearance of Homestar's house in [[rampage]] as well as the Christmas toons, I think we can be pretty sure now that the regular house with siding is actually Homestar's house and the house in the old toons is not. Maybe we should change the article to reflect that. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 21:43, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

==Location==
Does anyone think that it is important to note that Homestar's house is 15 minutes away from the concession stand? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:I wouldn't say he's exactly 15 min. away. I'd say it's approx. 15 minutes away. In [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], He wakes up at 10:00pm and gets to BCS at 10:15. It must've taken him a couple of minutes to gell him clothing and gear on since he ran out naked. ''[[User:Maggot Man|Maggot Man]] 23:04, 2 June 2006 (UTC)''

== Table ==

Does anyone know what model of IKEA table Homestar's is modeled after, or at least bears the most resemblance to? Thanks.--{{User:The4sword/sig}} 22:31, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

== the chair? ==

Has anyone noticed that it's pretty much the same house Strong Bad threw the flaming newspaper at in [[the chair]]?

: Hey, you're right! It's identical! I think it should be noted in the article, close to the Homestar's House/Hut deal.

== The walls ==

Homestar used to have green walls. Now they are blue. Shall this be noted? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Homestar Runner

2008-06-15T22:54:36Z

WP CEO: /* Biography */

{{charnav|Homestar Runner|hs|Homsar|Strong Bad}}
[[Image:NewestHomestar.png|thumb|"Everybody loves [[Strongest Man in the World|the me!]] I'm a terrific athlete!"]]

{{aboutcharacter}} {{for|world where the characters exist|Homestar Runner universe}} {{for|entire body of work|Homestar Runner (body of work)}} {{for|website itself|homestarrunner.com}}

== Biography ==
'''Homestar Runner''' (middle name being [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig#Transcript|Michael]] and/or [[time capsule#Commentary Transcript|Hal]]) is the star of his namesake website. He is mainly colored white, with black comma shaped eyes and a prominent [[Wikipedia:Pronathism|underbite]]. Usually, he wears a [[#Homestar's Clothing|red shirt with a white star]] and a [[#Homestar Runner's Hat|blue beanie with a red brim and a white spinner]]. His legs are quite long in relation to the rest of his body. Though he [[Lack of Visible Arms|lacks a visible pair of arms]], he is still able to function as though he has them, being able to carry and throw things and even type proficiently. It's generally accepted that either he ''does'' have arms, but for reasons that are never explained, they are invisible, or that he has limited telekinetic powers. According to the toon [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]], he weighs about one hundred pounds.

The subject of jokes and the recipient of [[Nicknames#Homestar Runner|nicknames]], Homestar is an earnest character with a pure heart and nothing but love for the rest of mankind. Unfortunately, his absolute cluelessness and clumsiness keep him from realizing his full potential. As Strong Bad stated in [[TrogdorCon '97]], he has an "unbelievably loose grasp on the world around [him]". He's not ''completely'' stupid (he once correctly stated [[Wikipedia:Coulomb's law|Coulomb's law]], albeit after being asked what two plus two is) and has proven to be remarkably clever in the past, though such occurrences are few and far between. He and most of the other residents of [[Free Country, USA]] speak English, but as seen in his [[First Time Here?|welcome speech to homestarrunner.com]], he is also able to speak [[Spanish]], though it is unknown exactly how much. He frequently uses two-syllable exclamations, like [[montage|"Hi-Ya!"]], [[radio|"Highball!"]], and [[Homestar Presents: Presents|"Ahct-poo!"]].

Homestar is the star athlete on an unspecified sports team led by [[Coach Z]] and keeps it that way via vigorous workouts, as revealed in the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[dullard]]. He is also the colonel (which is always pronounced phonetically) of the [[Homestarmy]], while his [[Homestar Runner and Pom Pom's Relationship|best friend]] remains [[Pom Pom]]. He has some [[Wikipedia:Rhotacism|speech impediments]] (as he says, he has "[[Puppet Jam: Vitamins/Celebrities|twouble with [his] aw's]]"), and appears to have [[Homestar Runner and Homestar Runner's Relationship|short-term memory problems]], as he frequently forgets things he has just done or said (for examples, see the [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2|12th Answering Machine]] or [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]). Homestar has also shown an incredible ability to sleep, which has been known to get him into trouble. The most extreme example of this oversleeping is the toon [[Weclome Back]], where he slept through June, and possibly the better half of May as well. He also tends to "borrow" things from (and return things to) [[Strong Bad]], for example, [[Strong Bad's fondue pot]].

Although he is often the target of pranks by Strong Bad, Homestar believes that he is friends with the "[[wrestleman]]" and tries to win his favor, often with bad results that Homestar completely misunderstands. Occasionally, he and Strong Bad will be on pleasant terms, usually participating together in a Strong Bad Email or watching TV at Homestar's house. As a whole, Homestar seems to be too dim to realize when people are being mean to him, or when he's being mean to other people. He often unintentionally insults his friends or steps on their feelings and is unable to understand their resulting feelings of anger. Another quirk of Homestar's is his ability to be easily outsmarted at his own game, but still be completely oblivious and even happy. As Strong Bad put it in [[secret recipes]], "It's like, even when we win, he wins." It should also be noted that Homestar's psychology may account for his sleepwalking behavior, as exhibited in the Strong Bad Email [[nightlife]].

[[Image:Homestar 3d variation.PNG|thumb|140px|Homestar has a low polygon count.]]

[[Image:Homestarteeth.png|thumb|130px|Yes, he does have teeth.]]

Homestar has behaved arrogantly on various topics, often caused by discussions of tender subjects, misunderstanding the topic at-hand or his general ignorance of the present situation. While arrogant, he acts single minded and, in extreme instances, violently. In a side of his character not often shown on the website, he acts like this before coming down into upset and exhausted state, such as in [[Happy Fireworks]], when he refuses to acknowledge [[Marzipan]]'s lack of presence, or in [[long pants]], when he is indignant about the suggestion that he doesn't wear long pants.

At present, Homestar works on the [[isp|help desk]] at an [[The Office|unnamed tech company]] with Strong Bad and [[The Cheat]], but has frequently dabbled in the entertainment industry. He made several [[Fluffy Puff Commercial|commercials]] for [[Fluffy Puff Marshmallows]] along with the product's mascot, [[Marshie]]. He was paid for his work in the commercials with a lifetime supply of "[[Color flavored|Red Flavored]] [[Fluffy Puff Translucent Dessert Related Substance]]". He is also the host of an obscure talk/game show named "[[The Show]]", has co-starred in at least one ''[[Dangeresque (film series)|Dangeresque]]'' movie, has sung several hit singles such as "[[Everybody Knows It]]", "[[Puppet Jam: Bad Jokes|Bad Jokes]]" and other jams with [[They Might Be Giants]], has revealed that he is considering a career in [[crying|male modeling]], and also has guest starred in an episode of [[Caleb Rentpayer]] (in which he shot Caleb). He enjoys running, breaking into Strong Bad's house, singing, and finding the perfect [[Decemberween]] present. He also seems to really like [[bread]], as seen in [[origins]] and [[disconnected]]. Other favored foods are [[Fluffy Puff Marshmallows|marshmallows]], [[Bronco Trolleys]], [[melonade]], and supposedly [[Wikipedia:Hot Pockets|Hot Pockets]], according to the email [[dullard]]. His most prized possession is his propeller-cap and its [[Spin My Buzzer|"buzzer"]]. He might be a fan of the [[Wikipedia:NHL|NHL]]'s [[Wikipedia:Boston Bruins|Boston Bruins]], as he is seen wearing a Bruins shirt in [[Superbowl Dealie]].

He, [[Coach Z]], [[Bubs]], and [[Pom Pom]], appear to be the current law enforcement in [[Free Country, USA]], as seen in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]] and [[road trip]]. The King of Town calls upon his and Pom Pom's assistance in [[The King of Town DVD]], suggesting higher authority and/or credibility. However, he is also seen as a thief in [[candy product]], stealing a pair of half-eaten "choco-pants". In the October 2007 special [[Jibblies 2]], he saves his friends by agreeing to stay inside the [[Horrible Painting]] for "eternity".

*'''Domicile:''' [[Homestar Runner's House]]
*'''Debut:''' [[Original Book|"The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest"]]
*[[:Category:Homestar Runner Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

== Character Video Transcript ==
[[Image:CharacterVidHomestar.png|thumb|"Don't forget 'moron'!"]]
''{'''Page Title:''' Homerun Hitter!}''
''{'''Place:''' [[The Field]]}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, hello. Greetings, one and everyone. Welcome to me.... Homestar!... Runner!... Homestar Runner. Um... what else? I pretty much run the show around here. I date the only girl, and have the only propeller cap. ''{propeller cap twirls}'' And can run, and jump, and kick the fastest, highest and like nobody's business. If I had to pick one word to describe myself, it would probably be... Fluffy Puff Marshmallows. Or Homestar. Either one, really. They both fit.

''{Strong Bad sticks his arm into the scene.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{says one of the following lines, picked randomly}''
*Don't forget "doofus"!
*Don't forget "moron"!
*Don't forget um... "Lionel Richie"!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, that too. That's another good one. In closing, I look good in red. Check it out. ''{turns around, sings while shaking his rear}'' Buttdance, buttda-a-ance!

===Fun Facts===
*Homestar shows off his [[Buttdance|butt dance]] again multiple times.
*Homestar could only hold his breath for about 3 seconds in [[Halloween Fairstival]], but in the older [[Yearbook Character Page]], he could hold his breath for about 11 seconds.
*Homestar also appears to have a nervous twitch, which would be revealed in later cartoons, as his head repeatedly snaps back and forth while talking.

== Homestar's Eyes ==
[[Image:Straighton.png|thumb|Cartoon straight-on]]
[[Image:TMBG_Homestar_closeup_20040925.jpg|thumb|right|Puppet Stuff straight-on]]
Homestar's eyes are quite strange.
*Sometimes they seem to move around his head. Most of the time they're like a flounder's eyes, but they switch sides of his face whenever he turns. In the [[Old Intro 2]], Homestar's eyes seem to move as the camera circles around him. Also, in [[Theme Song Video]], the currently absent toon [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]], the old version of [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD|In Search of the Yello Dello]], the [[Homestar Runner and Strong Bad Screensaver|Homestar Screensaver]], [[action figure]], and the [[Eggs (toon)|Eggs toon]], he faces to the front, which further lends credence to this theory.
**It is possible that Homestar's eyes are in fact on the front of his head, but his generally accepted stature always has him facing slightly to the side. Because he is a cartoon character, the three-dimensional shape of his head and face are not shown, so the viewer is left to infer the eyes' correct positions based on which direction Homestar appears to be facing. (Note that an explicit "front view" of Homestar Runner has not been seen since Old Intro 2.)

*His puppet and his two figurines, on the other hand, have eyes stuck on one side of his head. Occasionally the other side of Puppet Homestar's face can be seen.
**[[The Brothers Chaps]] actually made the eyes out of felt, so that they can be switched if necessary.

*Homestar's eyes almost always blink at regular intervals (once every approximately 3.9 seconds), even when the cartoon is paused or has stopped, and in some special cases such as where he appears on a magazine cover (as seen in the Email [[modeling]]). This is explained by the fact that his eyes are animated as a Flash movie clip, which generally animates continuously.

==Homestar Runner's Hat==
:''Main article: [[Homestar Runner's Hat]]''
[[Image:Homestarhat.png|thumb|It's my buzzer!]]
Homestar Runner usually wears a blue and red propeller cap, commonly called a beanie. He calls the propeller a "buzzer." In an interview with [[Wonkavision Magazine Interview|Wonkavision Magazine]], he claimed that he was born with his hat on. He is occasionally seen without it. He had lost his hat in [[Where My Hat is At?]] and apparently [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] (according to the DVD commentary) as well. In the email [[super powers]], Strong Bad managed to make the hat pop off of Homestar's head. In the email [[car]], Homestar had his hat "tricked out" with features such as hydraulics and underglow neon. He also claimed that if Strong Bad [[Spin My Buzzer|spun his "buzzer"]], it would play the theme from ''[[Wikipedia:Night Court|Night Court]]'', but it was obvious Homestar hummed it himself. Homestar dressed as himself in [[TrogdorCon '97]], and wore two hats as a result.

== Homestar's Clothing ==

[[Image:Homestar's Legs and shirt in the middle.PNG|50px|thumb|In the middle]]
[[Image:Onetwo_hrfoot.PNG|50px|thumb|left|The bottom of his feet]]

Homestar's shirt seems to most resemble a red skirt with a white star on it. [[Strong Bad]] stole the star in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] and used it to coax Homestar and [[Pom Pom]] into wrestling [[Strong Mad]] and himself. Despite the brothers' loss to Homestar and Pom Pom, Strong Bad tore up the star, and only by kicking Strong Bad and taking one of the stars floating around his head was Homestar able to return his shirt to its original glory. The only other times Homestar's star has been removed were in [[different town]], in which Strong Bad imagined Homestar angrily tearing the star off his shirt and stamping on it when he "called it quits", and [[hygiene]], when he takes it off and blows his nose in it as John. Clearly, the star is a mark of pride to Homestar Runner.

In the original script for [[flashback]], Strong Bad wore a similar shirt until Marzipan gave one to Homestar (to replace his Duckie Shirt). After this point, Strong Bad would have ripped off his shirt, explaining why he never wore one to this day. [[The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw]] offered the alternative explanation that the star shirt somehow became stuck in his craw while he somersaulted around the world fifty times.

A real-life version of the shirt is available for purchase in the [[Store]].

Other than his propeller cap, Homestar's shirt appears to be his only piece of clothing, as his questionable [[Homestar Runner's Pants|pants]] are a mystery. In [[long pants]], Strong Bad claims that Homestar doesn't have shoes, but has blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet. He wore a gray version of his shirt in [[impression]] while doing a bad imitation of [[Strong Sad]].

Note that the shirt is also straight compared to the eyes on the unfinished toon, [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]].

==Homestar & Marzipan==

[[Image:marzipan.png|thumb|Homestar's favorite hippie.]]

:''Main article: [[Homestar Runner and Marzipan's Relationship]]''
Homestar's relationship with Marzipan seems tenuous at best, and it has appeared to deteriorate over time. Although Homestar frequently (and usually inadvertently) insults Marzipan, and she claims to have broken up with him several times, the two still seem to stick together. It is unclear how their relationship started, but the fact that their relationship is never truly broken suggests that they really do love each other.

Homestar appears to greatly value their relationship; on the ''rare'' occasion that he realizes that their relationship is in jeopardy, he will spring into a desperate ploy to patch things up. He also seems to miss and need Marzipan's badgering every once in a while. When she was out of town in [[Happy Fireworks|July of 2005]], he carried around a [[Cardboard Marzipan|cardboard cutout]] version of her and provided a voice for it. The cardboard version still made similar comments about violence and Homestar's poor grammar that the actual Marzipan would have, providing Homestar with the presumably cathartic opportunity to say "Shut up, Marzipan." Even then, Homestar's relationship with the "Cardboard Marzi" appeared to be tenuous, as he voiced her flirting with other men. (This could be due to lasting paranoia and suspicion following a series of [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 3.0|answering machine messages]] in which both Bubs and Coach Z tried to ask her out on a date.) Cardboard Marzipan returned in [[No Hands on Deck|August of 2006]], when she was slightly more positive with Homestar, and said she was proud of his unusually-constructed deck.

In [[Date Nite]], Marzipan went out with The Cheat, much to Homestar's dismay. Though the date went well, Marzipan did not stay with The Cheat. She later went out with Bubs, to Coach Z's dismay.

== Relationships ==
:''Main article: [[Character Relationships]]''
*[[Homestar Runner and Homestar Runner's Relationship]]
*[[Homestar Runner and Strong Bad's Relationship]]
*[[Homestar Runner and Pom Pom's Relationship]]
*[[Homestar Runner and Marzipan's Relationship]]
*[[Homestar Runner and Coach Z's Relationship]]
*[[Homestar Runner and The Cheat's Relationship]]
*[[Homestar Runner and Strong Sad's Relationship]]

== Variations ==
*[[The Homestar Runner]] ([[Old-Timey]])
*[[1-Up]] ([[20X6]])
*[[Dangeresque Too]] ([[Dangeresque (film series)|Dangeresque]])
*[[The King of Town (Decemberween)|The King of Town]] ([[Decemberween]])
*[[Atari Homestar]]
*[[Tofu Homestar]]
*[[Retro Gaming Character Variations|Vector Homestar]]
*[[Retro Gaming Character Variations|Bad Graphics Homestar]]
*[[Teenage Variation#Teenage Homestar Runner|Teenage Homestar]]
*Freaky Marzipan ([[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]])
*Suave Homestar ([[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]])
*One-eyed Homestar ([[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]])
*[[Free Petry Dish, USA Variation#Homestarmecium|Homestarmecium]] ([[highschool]])
*[[The Castlefunnies|The Castlefunnies Homestar Runner]] ([[old comics]])
*[[Decemberween Short Shorts|Decemberween Ornament Homestar]]
*[[Cardboard Homestar]]
*[[3d Character Variations|3d Homestar]]

=== [[Halloween Costumes]] ===
*[[Wikipedia:Kurt Cobain|Kurt Cobain]] in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*[[Wikipedia:The Greatest American Hero|The Greatest American Hero]] in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*[[Wikipedia:Angus Young|Angus Young]] in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*[[John McEnroe]] in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
*Carl Spackler (played by [[Wikipedia:Bill Murray|Bill Murray]] in [[IMDb:tt0080487|Caddyshack]]) in [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*Moocher from [[IMDb:tt0078902|Breaking Away]] in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]].
*[[Wikipedia:Teen Wolf|Teen Wolf]] in [[Happy Hallow-day]].
*[[Wikipedia:Artie, the Strongest Man in the World|Artie, the Strongest Man in the World]] in [[Jibblies 2]]

==Quotes of the Week==
{{qotwstart}}
*{{qotw|"No, HERE'S my grocery list: Amazing thing, amazing thing, amazing thing, amazing thing."|[[love poems]]|HR:weeklies/hs_amazing.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"So what are you saying? That you -GULP- want his bod?"|[[Date Nite]]|Mirror:hs_wanthisbod.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Oh, hello guys! This is my talk and mouth move. Great times!"|Quote of the Week exclusive|Mirror:hs_greatimes.mp3|download}}
*{{qotw|"Drinko some Malinko! Malinko flavored water! Crystal clear like domestic beer!"|[[rough copy]]|Mirror:hs_drinko.mp3|download}}
*{{qotw|"I wonder how you spell tabasco. TABASCOooo!"|[[the movies]]|Mirror:hstabasco.mp3|download}}
*{{qotw|"A-listen to me now. Cheer up, Coach Z. It doesn't have to be creepy and depressing all the time..."|[[Decemberween Short Shorts]]|Mirror:hs_cheerupcz.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Doo doot. Tch. Doo doo dit. Tch. Doot doo doot. Tch. It's the hold music..."|[[isp]]|Mirror:hs_holdmusic.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Hey guys! H'whatcha teekenbot?"|[[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]]|Mirror:hs_heyguys.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"You're doing great! Now shoulders down! One and two! Feel the burn and go to bed! Make some breakfast, talk to me!"|[[lady fan]]|Mirror:hs_doingreat.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"The good times are over!!"|[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]|Mirror:hs_goodtimes.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"What in Pete Sampras is going on here?!?"|[[Cool Things]]|Mirror:hs_petesampras.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Buttdance again, like the rhythm's down your pants now!"|[[bottom 10]]|Mirror:hs_buttdance2.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"A wagon full of pamcakes? In the Champeenship?! I'd like to see ya try!"|[[montage]]|Mirror:hs_champeenship.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"THE GOOD TIMES ARE OVER!!!"|[[Bug In Mouth Disease]]|Mirror:hs_goodtimesover.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Li'l Brudder! I—I don't know what I'm doing with my life!"|[[crying]]|Mirror:hs_lilbrudder.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Let me in, da da da. Let me in!"|[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]|Mirror:hs_letmein.zip}}
*{{qotw|"That's bupkis!"|[[the facts]]|Mirror:hs_thatsbupkis.zip}}
*{{qotw|'''[[Little Girl]]:''' "That sounds like funny!" '''Homestar Runner:''' "It ''sounds'' like funny, but it's not."|[[Homestar vs. Little Girl]]|Mirror:hsgirl_likefunny.zip}}
*{{qotw|Todayborday is Labor Day song|[[Labor Dabor]]|Mirror:labordaysong_hs.zip}}
*{{qotw|"Here comes [[The Thnikkaman]]!"|[[monument]] Easter egg|Mirror:hs_thnikkaman.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"And somebody's a-ga-wabbin' a-my butt."|[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]|Mirror:hs_grabbinbutt.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Let's do this like Brutus."|[[monster truck]]|Mirror:hs_brutus.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"I could go for a few [[Cold One|cold ones]] right about now."|[[Where My Hat Is At?]]|Mirror:hs_coldones.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"I'm a belle!"|[[halloweener]]|Mirror:hs_imabelle.wav}}
*{{qotw|"Seriously, [[Pom Pom]], I'm about to pee my [[Homestar Runner's Pants|pants]]."|[[A Jumping Jack Contest]]|Mirror:hs_peepants.mp3}}
|}

== See Also ==
*[[Homestar Runner Evolution]]
*[[Homestar Runner Other Costumes|Other Costumes]]
*[[Nicknames#Homestar Runner|Nicknames]]

== External Links ==
*[[HR:vcr_hs.html|watch Homestar Runner's character video]]
*[[HR:vcr_hs.swf|view the Flash file for Homestar Runner's character video]]

{{Characters|Homestar Runner}}

{{subtitlesLinks|vcr_hs}}

[[Category:Homestarmy]]
[[Category:Toons with Dialogue Alternatives]]

Homestar Runner

2008-06-15T22:52:33Z

WP CEO: /* Biography */

{{charnav|Homestar Runner|hs|Homsar|Strong Bad}}
[[Image:NewestHomestar.png|thumb|"Everybody loves [[Strongest Man in the World|the me!]] I'm a terrific athlete!"]]

{{aboutcharacter}} {{for|world where the characters exist|Homestar Runner universe}} {{for|entire body of work|Homestar Runner (body of work)}} {{for|website itself|homestarrunner.com}}

== Biography ==
'''Homestar Runner''' (middle name being [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig#Transcript|Michael]] and/or [[time capsule#Commentary Transcript|Hal]]) is the star of his namesake website. He is mainly colored white, with black comma shaped eyes and a prominent [[Wikipedia:Pronathism|underbite]]. Usually, he wears a [[#Homestar's Clothing|red shirt with a white star]] and a [[#Homestar Runner's Hat|blue beanie with a red brim and a white spinner]]. His legs are quite long in relation to the rest of his body. Though he [[Lack of Visible Arms|lacks a visible pair of arms]], he is still able to function as though he has them, being able to carry and throw things and even type proficiently. It's generally accepted that either he ''does'' have arms, but for reasons that are never explained, they are invisible, or that he has limited telekinetic powers. According to the toon [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]], he weighs about one hundred pounds.

The subject of jokes and the recipient of [[Nicknames#Homestar Runner|nicknames]], Homestar is an earnest character with a pure heart and nothing but love for the rest of mankind. Unfortunately, his absolute cluelessness and clumsiness keep him from realizing his full potential. As Strong Bad stated in [[TrogdorCon '97]], he has an "unbelievably loose grasp on the world around [him]". He's not ''completely'' stupid (he once correctly stated [[Wikipedia:Coulomb's law|Coulomb's law]], albeit after being asked what two plus two is) and has proven to be remarkably clever in the past, though such occurrences are few and far between. He and most of the other residents of [[Free Country, USA]] speak English, but as seen in his [[First Time Here?|welcome speech to homestarrunner.com]], he is also able to speak [[Spanish]], though it is unknown exactly how much. He frequently uses two-syllable exclamations, like [[montage|"Hi-Ya!"]], [[radio|"Highball!"]], and [[Homestar Presents: Presents|"Ahct-poo!"]].

Homestar is the star athlete on an unspecified sports team led by [[Coach Z]] and keeps it that way via vigorous workouts, as revealed in the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[dullard]]. He is also the colonel (which is always pronounced phonetically) of the [[Homestarmy]], while his [[Homestar Runner and Pom Pom's Relationship|best friend]] remains [[Pom Pom]]. He has some [[Wikipedia:Rhotacism|speech impediments]] (as he says, he has "[[Puppet Jam: Vitamins/Celebrities|twouble with [his] aw's]]"), and appears to have [[Homestar Runner and Homestar Runner's Relationship|short-term memory problems]], and he frequently forgets things he has just done or said (for examples, see the [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2|12th Answering Machine]] or [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]). Homestar has also shown an incredible ability to sleep, which has been known to get him into trouble. The most extreme example of this oversleeping is the toon [[Weclome Back]], where he slept through June, and possibly the better half of May as well. He also tends to "borrow" things from (and return things to) [[Strong Bad]], for example, [[Strong Bad's fondue pot]].

Although he is often the target of pranks by Strong Bad, Homestar believes that he is friends with the "[[wrestleman]]" and tries to win his favor, often with bad results that Homestar completely misunderstands. Occasionally, he and Strong Bad will be on pleasant terms, usually participating together in a Strong Bad Email or watching TV at Homestar's house. As a whole, Homestar seems to be too dim to realize when people are being mean to him, or when he's being mean to other people. He often unintentionally insults his friends or steps on their feelings and is unable to understand their resulting feelings of anger. Another quirk of Homestar's is his ability to be easily outsmarted at his own game, but still be completely oblivious and even happy. As Strong Bad put it in [[secret recipes]], "It's like, even when we win, he wins." It should also be noted that Homestar's psychology may account for his sleepwalking behavior, as exhibited in the Strong Bad Email [[nightlife]].

[[Image:Homestar 3d variation.PNG|thumb|140px|Homestar has a low polygon count.]]

[[Image:Homestarteeth.png|thumb|130px|Yes, he does have teeth.]]

Homestar has behaved arrogantly on various topics, often caused by discussions of tender subjects, misunderstanding the topic at-hand or his general ignorance of the present situation. While arrogant, he acts single minded and, in extreme instances, violently. In a side of his character not often shown on the website, he acts like this before coming down into upset and exhausted state, such as in [[Happy Fireworks]], when he refuses to acknowledge [[Marzipan]]'s lack of presence, or in [[long pants]], when he is indignant about the suggestion that he doesn't wear long pants.

At present, Homestar works on the [[isp|help desk]] at an [[The Office|unnamed tech company]] with Strong Bad and [[The Cheat]], but has frequently dabbled in the entertainment industry. He made several [[Fluffy Puff Commercial|commercials]] for [[Fluffy Puff Marshmallows]] along with the product's mascot, [[Marshie]]. He was paid for his work in the commercials with a lifetime supply of "[[Color flavored|Red Flavored]] [[Fluffy Puff Translucent Dessert Related Substance]]". He is also the host of an obscure talk/game show named "[[The Show]]", has co-starred in at least one ''[[Dangeresque (film series)|Dangeresque]]'' movie, has sung several hit singles such as "[[Everybody Knows It]]", "[[Puppet Jam: Bad Jokes|Bad Jokes]]" and other jams with [[They Might Be Giants]], has revealed that he is considering a career in [[crying|male modeling]], and also has guest starred in an episode of [[Caleb Rentpayer]] (in which he shot Caleb). He enjoys running, breaking into Strong Bad's house, singing, and finding the perfect [[Decemberween]] present. He also seems to really like [[bread]], as seen in [[origins]] and [[disconnected]]. Other favored foods are [[Fluffy Puff Marshmallows|marshmallows]], [[Bronco Trolleys]], [[melonade]], and supposedly [[Wikipedia:Hot Pockets|Hot Pockets]], according to the email [[dullard]]. His most prized possession is his propeller-cap and its [[Spin My Buzzer|"buzzer"]]. He might be a fan of the [[Wikipedia:NHL|NHL]]'s [[Wikipedia:Boston Bruins|Boston Bruins]], as he is seen wearing a Bruins shirt in [[Superbowl Dealie]].

He, [[Coach Z]], [[Bubs]], and [[Pom Pom]], appear to be the current law enforcement in [[Free Country, USA]], as seen in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]] and [[road trip]]. The King of Town calls upon his and Pom Pom's assistance in [[The King of Town DVD]], suggesting higher authority and/or credibility. However, he is also seen as a thief in [[candy product]], stealing a pair of half-eaten "choco-pants". In the October 2007 special [[Jibblies 2]], he saves his friends by agreeing to stay inside the [[Horrible Painting]] for "eternity".

*'''Domicile:''' [[Homestar Runner's House]]
*'''Debut:''' [[Original Book|"The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest"]]
*[[:Category:Homestar Runner Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

== Character Video Transcript ==
[[Image:CharacterVidHomestar.png|thumb|"Don't forget 'moron'!"]]
''{'''Page Title:''' Homerun Hitter!}''
''{'''Place:''' [[The Field]]}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, hello. Greetings, one and everyone. Welcome to me.... Homestar!... Runner!... Homestar Runner. Um... what else? I pretty much run the show around here. I date the only girl, and have the only propeller cap. ''{propeller cap twirls}'' And can run, and jump, and kick the fastest, highest and like nobody's business. If I had to pick one word to describe myself, it would probably be... Fluffy Puff Marshmallows. Or Homestar. Either one, really. They both fit.

''{Strong Bad sticks his arm into the scene.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{says one of the following lines, picked randomly}''
*Don't forget "doofus"!
*Don't forget "moron"!
*Don't forget um... "Lionel Richie"!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, that too. That's another good one. In closing, I look good in red. Check it out. ''{turns around, sings while shaking his rear}'' Buttdance, buttda-a-ance!

===Fun Facts===
*Homestar shows off his [[Buttdance|butt dance]] again multiple times.
*Homestar could only hold his breath for about 3 seconds in [[Halloween Fairstival]], but in the older [[Yearbook Character Page]], he could hold his breath for about 11 seconds.
*Homestar also appears to have a nervous twitch, which would be revealed in later cartoons, as his head repeatedly snaps back and forth while talking.

== Homestar's Eyes ==
[[Image:Straighton.png|thumb|Cartoon straight-on]]
[[Image:TMBG_Homestar_closeup_20040925.jpg|thumb|right|Puppet Stuff straight-on]]
Homestar's eyes are quite strange.
*Sometimes they seem to move around his head. Most of the time they're like a flounder's eyes, but they switch sides of his face whenever he turns. In the [[Old Intro 2]], Homestar's eyes seem to move as the camera circles around him. Also, in [[Theme Song Video]], the currently absent toon [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]], the old version of [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD|In Search of the Yello Dello]], the [[Homestar Runner and Strong Bad Screensaver|Homestar Screensaver]], [[action figure]], and the [[Eggs (toon)|Eggs toon]], he faces to the front, which further lends credence to this theory.
**It is possible that Homestar's eyes are in fact on the front of his head, but his generally accepted stature always has him facing slightly to the side. Because he is a cartoon character, the three-dimensional shape of his head and face are not shown, so the viewer is left to infer the eyes' correct positions based on which direction Homestar appears to be facing. (Note that an explicit "front view" of Homestar Runner has not been seen since Old Intro 2.)

*His puppet and his two figurines, on the other hand, have eyes stuck on one side of his head. Occasionally the other side of Puppet Homestar's face can be seen.
**[[The Brothers Chaps]] actually made the eyes out of felt, so that they can be switched if necessary.

*Homestar's eyes almost always blink at regular intervals (once every approximately 3.9 seconds), even when the cartoon is paused or has stopped, and in some special cases such as where he appears on a magazine cover (as seen in the Email [[modeling]]). This is explained by the fact that his eyes are animated as a Flash movie clip, which generally animates continuously.

==Homestar Runner's Hat==
:''Main article: [[Homestar Runner's Hat]]''
[[Image:Homestarhat.png|thumb|It's my buzzer!]]
Homestar Runner usually wears a blue and red propeller cap, commonly called a beanie. He calls the propeller a "buzzer." In an interview with [[Wonkavision Magazine Interview|Wonkavision Magazine]], he claimed that he was born with his hat on. He is occasionally seen without it. He had lost his hat in [[Where My Hat is At?]] and apparently [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] (according to the DVD commentary) as well. In the email [[super powers]], Strong Bad managed to make the hat pop off of Homestar's head. In the email [[car]], Homestar had his hat "tricked out" with features such as hydraulics and underglow neon. He also claimed that if Strong Bad [[Spin My Buzzer|spun his "buzzer"]], it would play the theme from ''[[Wikipedia:Night Court|Night Court]]'', but it was obvious Homestar hummed it himself. Homestar dressed as himself in [[TrogdorCon '97]], and wore two hats as a result.

== Homestar's Clothing ==

[[Image:Homestar's Legs and shirt in the middle.PNG|50px|thumb|In the middle]]
[[Image:Onetwo_hrfoot.PNG|50px|thumb|left|The bottom of his feet]]

Homestar's shirt seems to most resemble a red skirt with a white star on it. [[Strong Bad]] stole the star in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] and used it to coax Homestar and [[Pom Pom]] into wrestling [[Strong Mad]] and himself. Despite the brothers' loss to Homestar and Pom Pom, Strong Bad tore up the star, and only by kicking Strong Bad and taking one of the stars floating around his head was Homestar able to return his shirt to its original glory. The only other times Homestar's star has been removed were in [[different town]], in which Strong Bad imagined Homestar angrily tearing the star off his shirt and stamping on it when he "called it quits", and [[hygiene]], when he takes it off and blows his nose in it as John. Clearly, the star is a mark of pride to Homestar Runner.

In the original script for [[flashback]], Strong Bad wore a similar shirt until Marzipan gave one to Homestar (to replace his Duckie Shirt). After this point, Strong Bad would have ripped off his shirt, explaining why he never wore one to this day. [[The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw]] offered the alternative explanation that the star shirt somehow became stuck in his craw while he somersaulted around the world fifty times.

A real-life version of the shirt is available for purchase in the [[Store]].

Other than his propeller cap, Homestar's shirt appears to be his only piece of clothing, as his questionable [[Homestar Runner's Pants|pants]] are a mystery. In [[long pants]], Strong Bad claims that Homestar doesn't have shoes, but has blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet. He wore a gray version of his shirt in [[impression]] while doing a bad imitation of [[Strong Sad]].

Note that the shirt is also straight compared to the eyes on the unfinished toon, [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]].

==Homestar & Marzipan==

[[Image:marzipan.png|thumb|Homestar's favorite hippie.]]

:''Main article: [[Homestar Runner and Marzipan's Relationship]]''
Homestar's relationship with Marzipan seems tenuous at best, and it has appeared to deteriorate over time. Although Homestar frequently (and usually inadvertently) insults Marzipan, and she claims to have broken up with him several times, the two still seem to stick together. It is unclear how their relationship started, but the fact that their relationship is never truly broken suggests that they really do love each other.

Homestar appears to greatly value their relationship; on the ''rare'' occasion that he realizes that their relationship is in jeopardy, he will spring into a desperate ploy to patch things up. He also seems to miss and need Marzipan's badgering every once in a while. When she was out of town in [[Happy Fireworks|July of 2005]], he carried around a [[Cardboard Marzipan|cardboard cutout]] version of her and provided a voice for it. The cardboard version still made similar comments about violence and Homestar's poor grammar that the actual Marzipan would have, providing Homestar with the presumably cathartic opportunity to say "Shut up, Marzipan." Even then, Homestar's relationship with the "Cardboard Marzi" appeared to be tenuous, as he voiced her flirting with other men. (This could be due to lasting paranoia and suspicion following a series of [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 3.0|answering machine messages]] in which both Bubs and Coach Z tried to ask her out on a date.) Cardboard Marzipan returned in [[No Hands on Deck|August of 2006]], when she was slightly more positive with Homestar, and said she was proud of his unusually-constructed deck.

In [[Date Nite]], Marzipan went out with The Cheat, much to Homestar's dismay. Though the date went well, Marzipan did not stay with The Cheat. She later went out with Bubs, to Coach Z's dismay.

== Relationships ==
:''Main article: [[Character Relationships]]''
*[[Homestar Runner and Homestar Runner's Relationship]]
*[[Homestar Runner and Strong Bad's Relationship]]
*[[Homestar Runner and Pom Pom's Relationship]]
*[[Homestar Runner and Marzipan's Relationship]]
*[[Homestar Runner and Coach Z's Relationship]]
*[[Homestar Runner and The Cheat's Relationship]]
*[[Homestar Runner and Strong Sad's Relationship]]

== Variations ==
*[[The Homestar Runner]] ([[Old-Timey]])
*[[1-Up]] ([[20X6]])
*[[Dangeresque Too]] ([[Dangeresque (film series)|Dangeresque]])
*[[The King of Town (Decemberween)|The King of Town]] ([[Decemberween]])
*[[Atari Homestar]]
*[[Tofu Homestar]]
*[[Retro Gaming Character Variations|Vector Homestar]]
*[[Retro Gaming Character Variations|Bad Graphics Homestar]]
*[[Teenage Variation#Teenage Homestar Runner|Teenage Homestar]]
*Freaky Marzipan ([[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]])
*Suave Homestar ([[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]])
*One-eyed Homestar ([[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]])
*[[Free Petry Dish, USA Variation#Homestarmecium|Homestarmecium]] ([[highschool]])
*[[The Castlefunnies|The Castlefunnies Homestar Runner]] ([[old comics]])
*[[Decemberween Short Shorts|Decemberween Ornament Homestar]]
*[[Cardboard Homestar]]
*[[3d Character Variations|3d Homestar]]

=== [[Halloween Costumes]] ===
*[[Wikipedia:Kurt Cobain|Kurt Cobain]] in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*[[Wikipedia:The Greatest American Hero|The Greatest American Hero]] in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*[[Wikipedia:Angus Young|Angus Young]] in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*[[John McEnroe]] in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
*Carl Spackler (played by [[Wikipedia:Bill Murray|Bill Murray]] in [[IMDb:tt0080487|Caddyshack]]) in [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*Moocher from [[IMDb:tt0078902|Breaking Away]] in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]].
*[[Wikipedia:Teen Wolf|Teen Wolf]] in [[Happy Hallow-day]].
*[[Wikipedia:Artie, the Strongest Man in the World|Artie, the Strongest Man in the World]] in [[Jibblies 2]]

==Quotes of the Week==
{{qotwstart}}
*{{qotw|"No, HERE'S my grocery list: Amazing thing, amazing thing, amazing thing, amazing thing."|[[love poems]]|HR:weeklies/hs_amazing.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"So what are you saying? That you -GULP- want his bod?"|[[Date Nite]]|Mirror:hs_wanthisbod.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Oh, hello guys! This is my talk and mouth move. Great times!"|Quote of the Week exclusive|Mirror:hs_greatimes.mp3|download}}
*{{qotw|"Drinko some Malinko! Malinko flavored water! Crystal clear like domestic beer!"|[[rough copy]]|Mirror:hs_drinko.mp3|download}}
*{{qotw|"I wonder how you spell tabasco. TABASCOooo!"|[[the movies]]|Mirror:hstabasco.mp3|download}}
*{{qotw|"A-listen to me now. Cheer up, Coach Z. It doesn't have to be creepy and depressing all the time..."|[[Decemberween Short Shorts]]|Mirror:hs_cheerupcz.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Doo doot. Tch. Doo doo dit. Tch. Doot doo doot. Tch. It's the hold music..."|[[isp]]|Mirror:hs_holdmusic.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Hey guys! H'whatcha teekenbot?"|[[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]]|Mirror:hs_heyguys.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"You're doing great! Now shoulders down! One and two! Feel the burn and go to bed! Make some breakfast, talk to me!"|[[lady fan]]|Mirror:hs_doingreat.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"The good times are over!!"|[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]|Mirror:hs_goodtimes.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"What in Pete Sampras is going on here?!?"|[[Cool Things]]|Mirror:hs_petesampras.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Buttdance again, like the rhythm's down your pants now!"|[[bottom 10]]|Mirror:hs_buttdance2.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"A wagon full of pamcakes? In the Champeenship?! I'd like to see ya try!"|[[montage]]|Mirror:hs_champeenship.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"THE GOOD TIMES ARE OVER!!!"|[[Bug In Mouth Disease]]|Mirror:hs_goodtimesover.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Li'l Brudder! I—I don't know what I'm doing with my life!"|[[crying]]|Mirror:hs_lilbrudder.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Let me in, da da da. Let me in!"|[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]|Mirror:hs_letmein.zip}}
*{{qotw|"That's bupkis!"|[[the facts]]|Mirror:hs_thatsbupkis.zip}}
*{{qotw|'''[[Little Girl]]:''' "That sounds like funny!" '''Homestar Runner:''' "It ''sounds'' like funny, but it's not."|[[Homestar vs. Little Girl]]|Mirror:hsgirl_likefunny.zip}}
*{{qotw|Todayborday is Labor Day song|[[Labor Dabor]]|Mirror:labordaysong_hs.zip}}
*{{qotw|"Here comes [[The Thnikkaman]]!"|[[monument]] Easter egg|Mirror:hs_thnikkaman.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"And somebody's a-ga-wabbin' a-my butt."|[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]|Mirror:hs_grabbinbutt.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Let's do this like Brutus."|[[monster truck]]|Mirror:hs_brutus.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"I could go for a few [[Cold One|cold ones]] right about now."|[[Where My Hat Is At?]]|Mirror:hs_coldones.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"I'm a belle!"|[[halloweener]]|Mirror:hs_imabelle.wav}}
*{{qotw|"Seriously, [[Pom Pom]], I'm about to pee my [[Homestar Runner's Pants|pants]]."|[[A Jumping Jack Contest]]|Mirror:hs_peepants.mp3}}
|}

== See Also ==
*[[Homestar Runner Evolution]]
*[[Homestar Runner Other Costumes|Other Costumes]]
*[[Nicknames#Homestar Runner|Nicknames]]

== External Links ==
*[[HR:vcr_hs.html|watch Homestar Runner's character video]]
*[[HR:vcr_hs.swf|view the Flash file for Homestar Runner's character video]]

{{Characters|Homestar Runner}}

{{subtitlesLinks|vcr_hs}}

[[Category:Homestarmy]]
[[Category:Toons with Dialogue Alternatives]]

Homestar Runner's House

2008-06-12T01:23:27Z

WP CEO: /* Interior */

'''[[Homestar Runner]]'s House''', in [[The Reddest Radish]] and [[In Search of the Yello Dello|In Search of the Yello Dello]], is a cartoonish red hut with white spots; yet in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], the email [[rampage]], his house is a normal suburban house with yellow siding, bearing a striking resemblance to the [[Peanuts]] kids' houses. Unless he's moved (or has more than one house), what the outside of Homestar's house really looks like remains a mystery, but it seems that the more logical choice would be his normal house with siding, as his "In Search Of The Yello Dello" home and his "The Reddest Radish" home both were made a while back. It may be that he simply moved to the new house first seen in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]]. Regardless, it doesn't seem to matter to him where he lives, as he spends an astonishing amount of time in both [[House of the Brothers Strong|Strong Bad's]] and [[Marzipan's House|Marzipan's]] homes. In [[flashback]], he even comments that he thinks he lives in the Brothers' Strong's house.
<gallery>Image:reddestradish.png|Homestar's Hut
Image:s old house.png|Homestar's hut (in the old version of "In Search Of The Yello Dello")
Image:homesarshouse_cubed.PNG|Homestar's hut (in the new version of "In Search Of The Yello Dello")
Image:Outside_Homestars_House.PNG|Homestar's normal house</gallery>
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==Interior==
The inside of his house was first seen in the email [[caper]], when [[Strong Bad]] and [[The Cheat]] broke into it. It has since been seen in [[radio]], [[garage sale]], [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], [[slumber party]] and [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]. It has green walls and [[Hanging Objects#Homestar Runner's House|pictures of himself through the years]]. Homestar's white table with the sliding doors is similar to one sold by [[Wikipedia:IKEA|IKEA]]. It also has a [[cow lamp]] which The Cheat broke in [[caper]]. It was repaired and seen again in [[radio]], but Homestar broke it again after The Cheat tried to steal it in [[garage sale]].

Homestar's bedroom, first seen in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], has maroon walls, a window, Homestar's bed (bare box spring only), and an alarm clock/radio labeled "[[Homestar's Clock]]" on a dresser. Homestar's room is on the second floor.

Homestar watches [[Tee Bee|television]] in his TV room, where the [[TV Time Toons Menu]] is located. He also keeps his TV stand (where his tapes are kept) and sofa here. He sometimes invites Strong Bad over to watch TV with him, an invitation that Strong Bad usually accepts (probably because Homestar has the better TV).

Homestar also has a bathroom which has a shower in it (seen on [[Main Page 14]]).

<gallery>Image:Homestarhouseempty.PNG|Homestar's living room.
Image:homestars_bedroom.PNG|Homestar's bedroom
Image:toons screenshot.PNG|A view of The TV Room
Image:Homestarbath.png|Homestar's shower
</gallery>

[[Category:Houses]]

Homestar Runner's House

2008-06-12T01:22:25Z

WP CEO:

'''[[Homestar Runner]]'s House''', in [[The Reddest Radish]] and [[In Search of the Yello Dello|In Search of the Yello Dello]], is a cartoonish red hut with white spots; yet in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]], [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], the email [[rampage]], his house is a normal suburban house with yellow siding, bearing a striking resemblance to the [[Peanuts]] kids' houses. Unless he's moved (or has more than one house), what the outside of Homestar's house really looks like remains a mystery, but it seems that the more logical choice would be his normal house with siding, as his "In Search Of The Yello Dello" home and his "The Reddest Radish" home both were made a while back. It may be that he simply moved to the new house first seen in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]]. Regardless, it doesn't seem to matter to him where he lives, as he spends an astonishing amount of time in both [[House of the Brothers Strong|Strong Bad's]] and [[Marzipan's House|Marzipan's]] homes. In [[flashback]], he even comments that he thinks he lives in the Brothers' Strong's house.
<gallery>Image:reddestradish.png|Homestar's Hut
Image:s old house.png|Homestar's hut (in the old version of "In Search Of The Yello Dello")
Image:homesarshouse_cubed.PNG|Homestar's hut (in the new version of "In Search Of The Yello Dello")
Image:Outside_Homestars_House.PNG|Homestar's normal house</gallery>
<div style="clear:both;"></div>

==Interior==
The inside of his house was first seen in the email [[caper]], when [[Strong Bad]] and [[The Cheat]] broke into it. It has since been seen in [[radio]], [[garage sale]], [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], [[slumber party]], [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] and [[Play Date]]. It has green walls and [[Hanging Objects#Homestar Runner's House|pictures of himself through the years]]. Homestar's white table with the sliding doors is similar to one sold by [[Wikipedia:IKEA|IKEA]]. It also has a [[cow lamp]] which The Cheat broke in [[caper]]. It was repaired and seen again in [[radio]], but Homestar broke it again after The Cheat tried to steal it in [[garage sale]].

Homestar's bedroom, first seen in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], has maroon walls, a window, Homestar's bed (bare box spring only), and an alarm clock/radio labeled "[[Homestar's Clock]]" on a dresser. Homestar's room is on the second floor.

Homestar watches [[Tee Bee|television]] in his TV room, where the [[TV Time Toons Menu]] is located. He also keeps his TV stand (where his tapes are kept) and sofa here. He sometimes invites Strong Bad over to watch TV with him, an invitation that Strong Bad usually accepts (probably because Homestar has the better TV).

Homestar also has a bathroom which has a shower in it (seen on [[Main Page 14]]).

<gallery>Image:Homestarhouseempty.PNG|Homestar's living room.
Image:homestars_bedroom.PNG|Homestar's bedroom
Image:toons screenshot.PNG|A view of The TV Room
Image:Homestarbath.png|Homestar's shower
</gallery>

[[Category:Houses]]

Play Date

2008-06-12T00:59:07Z

WP CEO: /* Transcript */

{{toonnav|Shorts|playdate|The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw|Strong Bad Sings}}
[[Image:PlayDate.png|thumb|"CAN HOMESTAR COME OUT AND PLAY?"]]

Homestar and Strong Mad hang out, with disastrous results.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Nebulon}}, {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|The King of Town}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Marzipan's House]], [[The Field]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's L'est Stand]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' Monday, June 9, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 2:46

'''Page Title:''' Wanna mess around?

==Transcript==
''{Camera tilts down to reveal Homestar Runner calling on his cordless phone, sitting on Marzipan's couch.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Pom Dog. It's Homedog. Yeah, dog. You wanna hang out? Oh? Oh. Firmware upgrade. No, that sounds important. No, it's cool. I'll catch you later. Boop! Oh.

''{Homestar actually hangs up the phone. Reverse shot, with a list marked "Phone People". Pom Pom (Pom Dog) is crossed out. Homestar dials the phone.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad? No? Cool.

''{Homestar hangs up. Strong Bad's name is crossed off.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Bubs! In federal prison? ''{Homestar hangs up; white frame}'' Coach Z? In juvenile prison?

''{Homestar hangs up. Coach Z's name is crossed off the list. Increasing Dutch angle shots as Strong Sad and The Cheat are crossed off. Cut to Homestar lying on the couch.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{Disappointed}'' Nah, it's cool. I forgot today was you and Brunswick stew's anniversary. 'Kay. Bye.

''{Homestar hangs up. King Of Town's name is crossed off. Homestar sighs off camera.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, well, I guess I'll just have to call —

''{Cut to Strong Mad opening the door.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' CAN HOMESTAR COME OUT AND PLAY?

''{Title "Play Date" drops down over a black background.}''

''{Crossfade to Homestar leaning out the front door talking to Strong Mad.)''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh, we don't really call it "playing" anymore, Strong Mad. ''{Close-up of Homestar}'' It's more like hanging out, messing around, kicking back...

''{Two shot of Homestar and Strong Mad}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' LET'S FOOL AROUND!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hm. Maybe not "fool around" either. ''{Close-up of Homestar}'' Why don't we get down to business? Let's play. Or, kick around. Whatever.

''{Two shot}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' LET'S PLAY BLOCKS!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Blocks, eh? I'm not opposed to the classics. Let's play some blocks.

''{Push wipe left to a tower of cinder blocks wavering slightly. Strong Mad grunts off camera and another cinder block flies to the top of the pile. Pull back to reveal Homestar pushed into the ground with the blocks on top of his chest.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{strained}'' You know, this is exactly what I thought you had in mind. ''{Close up on Homestar}'' Not sure why I agreed to it. How 'bout we play catch?

''{Push wipe left to Homestar crouching slightly, his cap on backwards, and a baseball glove floating in front of him.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All right! Fire it in here! Gimme the old pepper atta pepper whatta pepper who's a pepper— ''{Strong Mad grunts off camera and Bubs' Concession Stand lands on Homestar, who drops his glove}'' Oof!

''{Bubs pops up in the Stand}''

'''BUBS:''' It's a relocation sale! Fifty percent off all badly beaten Homestars!

''{Push wipe down to Homestar, with bandages on his head and face, and Strong Mad sitting on the couch.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{shakily & sounding exhausted}'' Okay, Strong Mad. We're going to have a little something I like to call "Migraine Time". We can play your new favorite game, ''{pull back to a wider shot}'' Feathers and Cotton. Ready? Go.

''{Homestar puts an ice pack on his face. A meteor falls through the ceiling, crushing Homestar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Waugh!

'''STRONG MAD:''' THIS ONE'S NOT MY FAULT!

''{Nebulon pokes up from the meteor, looking around. Nebulon's sound effect is heard}''

''{Push wipe up Homestar heavily bandaged, legs in casts, and sitting in a wheelchair in The Field. Strong Mad is standing next to him, smiling apologetically.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Wow! I had a real great time messing around today, Strong Mad. But next time, maybe we should just play.

''{Strong Bad enters from the left}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, thanks for babysitting the little guy for me, Homestar.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What?

'''STRONG MAD:''' AWWWW! TIME TO GO?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, sorry, man. ''{close-up of Strong Bad}'' Cinder blocks, structural damage, and meteors? It is ''definitely'' time for your nap.

''{Pull back to previous shot. Strong Mad and Strong Bad exit left, Strong Mad pouting and sobbing a little.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whew! Bubs, hit me with a Cold One. ''{Camera shift right to reveal Bubs' Concession Stand, as Homestar's wheel chair leans back. Bubs slides an 'Old One down the counter.}''

''{Cut to black. A crash is heard followed by a gulp.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ahh. Thanks, man.

''{"END" appears on the screen as music plays. A dot soon follows and the word back fades in the lower left corner.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on the "E" to continue the ending scene.
*:''{scene reopens at the [[Bubs' Concession Stand|Concession Stand]]. The 'Old One bottle lays broken on the ground}''
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, wait a minute! Aren't you supposed to be in federal prison?
*:'''BUBS:''' I got time off for snitchy behavior!
*At the end, click on the period to see The King of Town.
*:''{At Marshmallow's L'est Stand. The music from [[Date Nite]] and [[love poems]] is playing. The King sits at one end of the table, with a bowl of Brunswick stew at the other end. A candle and small jewelry box are also on the table}''
*:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' You know, Brunsy, the 50th anniversary is the ''{holds up a spoon with sour cream in it}'' dollop of sour cream year!

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===

*Fiftieth anniversaries are typically celebrated with the presentation of gold to one another.
* "Firmware upgrade" being something important is probably a reference to the [[Wikipedia:PlayStation_Portable|PlayStation Portable]] custom firmware scene.

===Remarks===

*Homestar's telephone uses [[Wikipedia:Dual-tone multi-frequency|dual-tone multi-frequency dialing]] and the numbers can therefore be determined from the tones produced. Homestar dials the following numbers:
**5-3-3 at the beginning of the toon before saying, "Hey Pom Dog..."
**8 after hanging up on Pom Pom.
**8-6-5-3-3 before talking to Strong Bad
**8 after hanging up on Strong Bad and before talking to Bubs.
**8 after hanging up on Bubs and before talking to Coach Z.
**8 after hanging up on Coach Z.
**5-3 before talking to the King of Town.
**8 after hanging up on the King of Town.
*Homestar crosses out the names on his list without using a writing utensil.
*At the end of the toon, Homestar appears to have both his legs injured from the meteor. However, his legs were the only parts of his body that were NOT hit by the meteor.
*The large wheels of Homestar's wheelchair are not attached to the chair, or to each other.
*In the Easter egg, Bubs' arms are in the older, bendy state.
*The word "END" appears to come down over the top of the first Easter Egg: in the last frame, you can see bottom half of the word at the top of the screen.

===Goofs===
*When Homestar's list first appears, The Poopsmith is listed after Strong Sad and The Cheat. However, after Homestar crosses out The Cheat, The Poopsmith is listed before The Cheat.
*In the Concession Stand Easter egg, the left wall of the stand is separated from the front at the top.
*In the beginning of the toon, Homestar is in [[Marzipan's House|Marzipan's house]]. However, when talking to Strong Mad while poking out the front door, the railing does not bend in an angle at the middle, like Marzipan's railing does. It is instead straight - exactly the way [[Homestar Runner's House|Homestar's house]] has been shown [[The Best Decemberween Ever|before]].

===Inside References===
*Homestar refers to Pom Pom as [[My Dog|Pom Dog]].
*The King of Town is on a date with [[Stew|Brunswick stew]].
*Strong Mad ripped Bubs' Concession Stand out of the ground in [[Fall Float Parade]].
*Bubs' Concession Stand was previously seen landing on [[Señor]] and [[Mr. Bland]] in [[origins]].
*The loading screen reads "[[Irregular Loading Screens|load it]]".
*There is another appearance of [[Strong Mad smiling]].
*This is another appearance of a [[cinder block]].
*The music during Bubs's explanation of his relocation sale comes from [[Senorial Day]].

===Real-World References===
*Homestar Runner shouting about "peppering" is a reference to [[Looney Tunes|Bugs Bunny]]'s similar shouting during [[Wikipedia:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] after which Bugs grins and says, "That's the old pepper, boy!" This in turn is a reference to the common warm-up "[[Wikipedia:Pepper (baseball)|pepper game]]" used before baseball games, where a coach hits a grounder or low fly to the infield, and the fielders try to field and throw back the ball as quickly as they can. The coach then hits the return throw.
*Homestar's chatter starts to follow [[Wikipedia:Dr Pepper|Dr Pepper]]'s jingle from the 1970s and 1980s, "I'm a Pepper, He's a Pepper, We're a Pepper, Be a Pepper, Wouldn't you like to Be a Pepper too?"

== External Links ==
*[[HR:playdate.html|watch "Play Date"]]
*[[HR:playdate.swf|view the Flash file for "Play Date"]]
*[[Forum:14306|forum thread re: "Play Date"]]

[[Category:Shorts]]

Play Date

2008-06-12T00:57:55Z

WP CEO: /* Transcript */

{{toonnav|Shorts|playdate|The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw|Strong Bad Sings}}
[[Image:PlayDate.png|thumb|"CAN HOMESTAR COME OUT AND PLAY?"]]

Homestar and Strong Mad hang out, with disastrous results.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Nebulon}}, {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|The King of Town}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Marzipan's House]], [[The Field]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's L'est Stand]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' Monday, June 9, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 2:46

'''Page Title:''' Wanna mess around?

==Transcript==
''{Camera tilts down to reveal Homestar Runner calling on his cordless phone, sitting on Marzipan's couch.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Pom Dog. It's Homedog. Yeah, dog. You wanna hang out? Oh? Oh. Firmware upgrade. No, that sounds important. No, it's cool. I'll catch you later. Boop! Oh.

''{Homestar actually hangs up the phone. Reverse shot, with a list marked "Phone People". Pom Pom (Pom Dog) is crossed out. Homestar dials the phone.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad? No? Cool.

''{Homestar hangs up. Strong Bad's name is crossed off.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Bubs! In federal prison? ''{Homestar hangs up; white frame}'' Coach Z? In juvenile prison?

''{Homestar hangs up. Coach Z's name is crossed off the list. Increasing Dutch angle shots as Strong Sad and The Cheat are crossed off. Cut to Homestar lying on his couch.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{Disappointed}'' Nah, it's cool. I forgot today was you and Brunswick stew's anniversary. 'Kay. Bye.

''{Homestar hangs up. King Of Town's name is crossed off. Homestar sighs off camera.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, well, I guess I'll just have to call —

''{Cut to Strong Mad opening the door.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' CAN HOMESTAR COME OUT AND PLAY?

''{Title "Play Date" drops down over a black background.}''

''{Crossfade to Homestar leaning out his front door talking to Strong Mad.)''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh, we don't really call it "playing" anymore, Strong Mad. ''{Close-up of Homestar}'' It's more like hanging out, messing around, kicking back...

''{Two shot of Homestar and Strong Mad}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' LET'S FOOL AROUND!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hm. Maybe not "fool around" either. ''{Close-up of Homestar}'' Why don't we get down to business? Let's play. Or, kick around. Whatever.

''{Two shot}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' LET'S PLAY BLOCKS!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Blocks, eh? I'm not opposed to the classics. Let's play some blocks.

''{Push wipe left to a tower of cinder blocks wavering slightly. Strong Mad grunts off camera and another cinder block flies to the top of the pile. Pull back to reveal Homestar pushed into the ground with the blocks on top of his chest.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{strained}'' You know, this is exactly what I thought you had in mind. ''{Close up on Homestar}'' Not sure why I agreed to it. How 'bout we play catch?

''{Push wipe left to Homestar crouching slightly, his cap on backwards, and a baseball glove floating in front of him.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All right! Fire it in here! Gimme the old pepper atta pepper whatta pepper who's a pepper— ''{Strong Mad grunts off camera and Bubs' Concession Stand lands on Homestar, who drops his glove}'' Oof!

''{Bubs pops up in the Stand}''

'''BUBS:''' It's a relocation sale! Fifty percent off all badly beaten Homestars!

''{Push wipe down to Homestar, with bandages on his head and face, and Strong Mad sitting on the couch.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{shakily & sounding exhausted}'' Okay, Strong Mad. We're going to have a little something I like to call "Migraine Time". We can play your new favorite game, ''{pull back to a wider shot}'' Feathers and Cotton. Ready? Go.

''{Homestar puts an ice pack on his face. A meteor falls through the ceiling, crushing Homestar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Waugh!

'''STRONG MAD:''' THIS ONE'S NOT MY FAULT!

''{Nebulon pokes up from the meteor, looking around. Nebulon's sound effect is heard}''

''{Push wipe up Homestar heavily bandaged, legs in casts, and sitting in a wheelchair in The Field. Strong Mad is standing next to him, smiling apologetically.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Wow! I had a real great time messing around today, Strong Mad. But next time, maybe we should just play.

''{Strong Bad enters from the left}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, thanks for babysitting the little guy for me, Homestar.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What?

'''STRONG MAD:''' AWWWW! TIME TO GO?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, sorry, man. ''{close-up of Strong Bad}'' Cinder blocks, structural damage, and meteors? It is ''definitely'' time for your nap.

''{Pull back to previous shot. Strong Mad and Strong Bad exit left, Strong Mad pouting and sobbing a little.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whew! Bubs, hit me with a Cold One. ''{Camera shift right to reveal Bubs' Concession Stand, as Homestar's wheel chair leans back. Bubs slides an 'Old One down the counter.}''

''{Cut to black. A crash is heard followed by a gulp.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ahh. Thanks, man.

''{"END" appears on the screen as music plays. A dot soon follows and the word back fades in the lower left corner.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on the "E" to continue the ending scene.
*:''{scene reopens at the [[Bubs' Concession Stand|Concession Stand]]. The 'Old One bottle lays broken on the ground}''
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, wait a minute! Aren't you supposed to be in federal prison?
*:'''BUBS:''' I got time off for snitchy behavior!
*At the end, click on the period to see The King of Town.
*:''{At Marshmallow's L'est Stand. The music from [[Date Nite]] and [[love poems]] is playing. The King sits at one end of the table, with a bowl of Brunswick stew at the other end. A candle and small jewelry box are also on the table}''
*:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' You know, Brunsy, the 50th anniversary is the ''{holds up a spoon with sour cream in it}'' dollop of sour cream year!

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===

*Fiftieth anniversaries are typically celebrated with the presentation of gold to one another.
* "Firmware upgrade" being something important is probably a reference to the [[Wikipedia:PlayStation_Portable|PlayStation Portable]] custom firmware scene.

===Remarks===

*Homestar's telephone uses [[Wikipedia:Dual-tone multi-frequency|dual-tone multi-frequency dialing]] and the numbers can therefore be determined from the tones produced. Homestar dials the following numbers:
**5-3-3 at the beginning of the toon before saying, "Hey Pom Dog..."
**8 after hanging up on Pom Pom.
**8-6-5-3-3 before talking to Strong Bad
**8 after hanging up on Strong Bad and before talking to Bubs.
**8 after hanging up on Bubs and before talking to Coach Z.
**8 after hanging up on Coach Z.
**5-3 before talking to the King of Town.
**8 after hanging up on the King of Town.
*Homestar crosses out the names on his list without using a writing utensil.
*At the end of the toon, Homestar appears to have both his legs injured from the meteor. However, his legs were the only parts of his body that were NOT hit by the meteor.
*The large wheels of Homestar's wheelchair are not attached to the chair, or to each other.
*In the Easter egg, Bubs' arms are in the older, bendy state.
*The word "END" appears to come down over the top of the first Easter Egg: in the last frame, you can see bottom half of the word at the top of the screen.

===Goofs===
*When Homestar's list first appears, The Poopsmith is listed after Strong Sad and The Cheat. However, after Homestar crosses out The Cheat, The Poopsmith is listed before The Cheat.
*In the Concession Stand Easter egg, the left wall of the stand is separated from the front at the top.
*In the beginning of the toon, Homestar is in [[Marzipan's House|Marzipan's house]]. However, when talking to Strong Mad while poking out the front door, the railing does not bend in an angle at the middle, like Marzipan's railing does. It is instead straight - exactly the way [[Homestar Runner's House|Homestar's house]] has been shown [[The Best Decemberween Ever|before]].

===Inside References===
*Homestar refers to Pom Pom as [[My Dog|Pom Dog]].
*The King of Town is on a date with [[Stew|Brunswick stew]].
*Strong Mad ripped Bubs' Concession Stand out of the ground in [[Fall Float Parade]].
*Bubs' Concession Stand was previously seen landing on [[Señor]] and [[Mr. Bland]] in [[origins]].
*The loading screen reads "[[Irregular Loading Screens|load it]]".
*There is another appearance of [[Strong Mad smiling]].
*This is another appearance of a [[cinder block]].
*The music during Bubs's explanation of his relocation sale comes from [[Senorial Day]].

===Real-World References===
*Homestar Runner shouting about "peppering" is a reference to [[Looney Tunes|Bugs Bunny]]'s similar shouting during [[Wikipedia:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] after which Bugs grins and says, "That's the old pepper, boy!" This in turn is a reference to the common warm-up "[[Wikipedia:Pepper (baseball)|pepper game]]" used before baseball games, where a coach hits a grounder or low fly to the infield, and the fielders try to field and throw back the ball as quickly as they can. The coach then hits the return throw.
*Homestar's chatter starts to follow [[Wikipedia:Dr Pepper|Dr Pepper]]'s jingle from the 1970s and 1980s, "I'm a Pepper, He's a Pepper, We're a Pepper, Be a Pepper, Wouldn't you like to Be a Pepper too?"

== External Links ==
*[[HR:playdate.html|watch "Play Date"]]
*[[HR:playdate.swf|view the Flash file for "Play Date"]]
*[[Forum:14306|forum thread re: "Play Date"]]

[[Category:Shorts]]

Marzipan's House

2008-06-12T00:47:07Z

WP CEO:

[[Image:Marzi_Living_Room.png|thumb|400px|Marzipan's Complete Living Room]]
'''[[Marzipan]]'s House''' has siding and a front porch. Her living room contains a couch and an artwork with the words [[Hanging Objects#Marzipan's House|"Thank You"]] off-centered on it. This painting was among Strong Bad's loot in the [[Strong Bad Is in Jail Cartoon]]. Across from her couch in the living room is a mirror as seen in its reflection in [[Date Nite]]. Her kitchen contains a basic dining table, a window with a view outside, a [[Rejected Characters#Trivia Time|Trivia Time]] cookie jar, [[Mrs. Bennedetto|her microwave]], and [[Ray-Jo|her radio]]. This appears to be the only kitchen that anybody in the [[Homestar Runner Universe]] is actually seen using. [[Homestar Runner]] is actually seen in the kitchen more often than Marzipan. She has a rarely seen craft room where she prepares her protest signs. She also has a wall with "cool tapes" written on it, and a basement with chinchillas in it.

Near her door is her [[PhoneTime XL8]] answering machine where the "[[Marzipan's Answering Machine]]" feature takes place. Her yard boasts a fine [[Marzipan's Gazebo| gazebo]] and [[The Radish Patch|radish patch]].

<gallery>
Image:marzipanfrontporch.png|<center>The front porch. The wall is blue.</center>
Image:MarzipanHouseExtCoolThings.png|<center>The front porch again. The wall is yellow.</center>
Image:marzipanscouch.PNG|<center>The living room</center>
Image:marzipans craft room.png|<center>The crafting room</center>
Image:marzipanskitchen.PNG|<center>The kitchen</center>
Image:MarzipanAnsweringMachineV9.png|<center>The answering machine room, likely the main foyer</center>
Image:cool tapes.PNG|<center>Another view of the living room</center>
Image:Mazipan's Closet.png|<center>Marzipan's couch-side closet</center>
</gallery>

==Appearances==
*[[Where's The Cheat?]]
*[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]
*[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]
* Email [[army]] (Easter egg)
* Email [[labor day]] (Easter egg)
* Email [[personal favorites]]
* Email [[virus]]
* Email [[radio]]
* Email [[part-time job]]
* Email [[caffeine]]
* Email [[flashback]] (Easter egg)
* Email [[replacement]]
* Email [[secret recipes]]
* Email [[do over]] (Easter egg)
* Email [[secret identity]]
* Email [[narrator]]
* Email [[lady fan]]
* Email [[candy product]]
*[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]
*[[Homestar Presents: Presents]]
*[[Cool Things]]
*All [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]] toons
*[[Kid Speedy]]
*Email [[keep cool]]
*[[No Hands On Deck!]]
*Email [[strong badathlon]]
*Email [[your funeral]]
*Email [[rough copy]] (Easter egg)
*[[Date Nite]]
*[[DNA Evidence]]
*[[Quality Time]]
*[[Jibblies 2]]
*[[Toikey TV]]
*Email [[environment]]
*[[Play Date]]

[[Category:Houses]]

File:MarzipanHouseExtCoolThings.png

2008-06-12T00:40:37Z

WP CEO: View of the exterior of Marzipan's House, as seen in Cool Things. The wall is yellow, which is interesting, because it was blue in 3 Times Halloween Funjob. It is also interesting because Homestar Runner's house is the same colour (his front porch is diff

== Summary ==
View of the exterior of Marzipan's House, as seen in Cool Things. The wall is yellow, which is interesting, because it was blue in 3 Times Halloween Funjob. It is also interesting because Homestar Runner's house is the same colour (his front porch is different).
== Licensing ==
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Play Date

2008-06-12T00:25:28Z

WP CEO: /* Goofs */

{{toonnav|Shorts|playdate|The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw|Strong Bad Sings}}
[[Image:PlayDate.png|thumb|"CAN HOMESTAR COME OUT AND PLAY?"]]

Homestar and Strong Mad hang out, with disastrous results.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Nebulon}}, {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|The King of Town}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Marzipan's House]], [[The Field]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's L'est Stand]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' Monday, June 9, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 2:46

'''Page Title:''' Wanna mess around?

==Transcript==
''{Camera tilts down to reveal Homestar Runner calling on his cordless phone, sitting on his couch.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Pom Dog. It's Homedog. Yeah, dog. You wanna hang out? Oh? Oh. Firmware upgrade. No, that sounds important. No, it's cool. I'll catch you later. Boop! Oh.

''{Homestar actually hangs up the phone. Reverse shot, with a list marked "Phone People". Pom Pom (Pom Dog) is crossed out. Homestar dials the phone.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad? No? Cool.

''{Homestar hangs up. Strong Bad's name is crossed off.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Bubs! In federal prison? ''{Homestar hangs up; white frame}'' Coach Z? In juvenile prison?

''{Homestar hangs up. Coach Z's name is crossed off the list. Increasing Dutch angle shots as Strong Sad and The Cheat are crossed off. Cut to Homestar lying on his couch.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{Disappointed}'' Nah, it's cool. I forgot today was you and Brunswick stew's anniversary. 'Kay. Bye.

''{Homestar hangs up. King Of Town's name is crossed off. Homestar sighs off camera.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, well, I guess I'll just have to call —

''{Cut to Strong Mad opening the door.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' CAN HOMESTAR COME OUT AND PLAY?

''{Title "Play Date" drops down over a black background.}''

''{Crossfade to Homestar leaning out his front door talking to Strong Mad.)''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh, we don't really call it "playing" anymore, Strong Mad. ''{Close-up of Homestar}'' It's more like hanging out, messing around, kicking back...

''{Two shot of Homestar and Strong Mad}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' LET'S FOOL AROUND!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hm. Maybe not "fool around" either. ''{Close-up of Homestar}'' Why don't we get down to business? Let's play. Or, kick around. Whatever.

''{Two shot}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' LET'S PLAY BLOCKS!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Blocks, eh? I'm not opposed to the classics. Let's play some blocks.

''{Push wipe left to a tower of cinder blocks wavering slightly. Strong Mad grunts off camera and another cinder block flies to the top of the pile. Pull back to reveal Homestar pushed into the ground with the blocks on top of his chest.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{strained}'' You know, this is exactly what I thought you had in mind. ''{Close up on Homestar}'' Not sure why I agreed to it. How 'bout we play catch?

''{Push wipe left to Homestar crouching slightly, his cap on backwards, and a baseball glove floating in front of him.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All right! Fire it in here! Gimme the old pepper atta pepper whatta pepper who's a pepper— ''{Strong Mad grunts off camera and Bubs' Concession Stand lands on Homestar, who drops his glove}'' Oof!

''{Bubs pops up in the Stand}''

'''BUBS:''' It's a relocation sale! Fifty percent off all badly beaten Homestars!

''{Push wipe down to Homestar, with bandages on his head and face, and Strong Mad sitting on the couch.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{shakily & sounding exhausted}'' Okay, Strong Mad. We're going to have a little something I like to call "Migraine Time". We can play your new favorite game, ''{pull back to a wider shot}'' Feathers and Cotton. Ready? Go.

''{Homestar puts an ice pack on his face. A meteor falls through the ceiling, crushing Homestar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Waugh!

'''STRONG MAD:''' THIS ONE'S NOT MY FAULT!

''{Nebulon pokes up from the meteor, looking around. Nebulon's sound effect is heard}''

''{Push wipe up Homestar heavily bandaged, legs in casts, and sitting in a wheelchair in The Field. Strong Mad is standing next to him, smiling apologetically.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Wow! I had a real great time messing around today, Strong Mad. But next time, maybe we should just play.

''{Strong Bad enters from the left}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, thanks for babysitting the little guy for me, Homestar.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What?

'''STRONG MAD:''' AWWWW! TIME TO GO?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, sorry, man. ''{close-up of Strong Bad}'' Cinder blocks, structural damage, and meteors? It is ''definitely'' time for your nap.

''{Pull back to previous shot. Strong Mad and Strong Bad exit left, Strong Mad pouting and sobbing a little.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whew! Bubs, hit me with a Cold One. ''{Camera shift right to reveal Bubs' Concession Stand, as Homestar's wheel chair leans back. Bubs slides an 'Old One down the counter.}''

''{Cut to black. A crash is heard followed by a gulp.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ahh. Thanks, man.

''{"END" appears on the screen as music plays. A dot soon follows and the word back fades in the lower left corner.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on the "E" to continue the ending scene.
*:''{scene reopens at the [[Bubs' Concession Stand|Concession Stand]]. The 'Old One bottle lays broken on the ground}''
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, wait a minute! Aren't you supposed to be in federal prison?
*:'''BUBS:''' I got time off for snitchy behavior!
*At the end, click on the period to see The King of Town.
*:''{At Marshmallow's L'est Stand. The music from [[Date Nite]] and [[love poems]] is playing. The King sits at one end of the table, with a bowl of Brunswick stew at the other end. A candle and small jewelry box are also on the table}''
*:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' You know, Brunsy, the 50th anniversary is the ''{holds up a spoon with sour cream in it}'' dollop of sour cream year!

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===

*Fiftieth anniversaries are typically celebrated with the presentation of gold to one another.
* "Firmware upgrade" being something important is probably a reference to the [[Wikipedia:PlayStation_Portable|PlayStation Portable]] custom firmware scene.

===Remarks===

*Homestar's telephone uses [[Wikipedia:Dual-tone multi-frequency|dual-tone multi-frequency dialing]] and the numbers can therefore be determined from the tones produced. Homestar dials the following numbers:
**5-3-3 at the beginning of the toon before saying, "Hey Pom Dog..."
**8 after hanging up on Pom Pom.
**8-6-5-3-3 before talking to Strong Bad
**8 after hanging up on Strong Bad and before talking to Bubs.
**8 after hanging up on Bubs and before talking to Coach Z.
**8 after hanging up on Coach Z.
**5-3 before talking to the King of Town.
**8 after hanging up on the King of Town.
*Homestar crosses out the names on his list without using a writing utensil.
*At the end of the toon, Homestar appears to have both his legs injured from the meteor. However, his legs were the only parts of his body that were NOT hit by the meteor.
*The large wheels of Homestar's wheelchair are not attached to the chair, or to each other.
*In the Easter egg, Bubs' arms are in the older, bendy state.
*The word "END" appears to come down over the top of the first Easter Egg: in the last frame, you can see bottom half of the word at the top of the screen.

===Goofs===
*When Homestar's list first appears, The Poopsmith is listed after Strong Sad and The Cheat. However, after Homestar crosses out The Cheat, The Poopsmith is listed before The Cheat.
*In the Concession Stand Easter egg, the left wall of the stand is separated from the front at the top.
*In the beginning of the toon, Homestar is in [[Marzipan's House|Marzipan's house]]. However, when talking to Strong Mad while poking out the front door, the railing does not bend in an angle at the middle, like Marzipan's railing does. It is instead straight - exactly the way [[Homestar Runner's House|Homestar's house]] has been shown [[The Best Decemberween Ever|before]].

===Inside References===
*Homestar refers to Pom Pom as [[My Dog|Pom Dog]].
*The King of Town is on a date with [[Stew|Brunswick stew]].
*Strong Mad ripped Bubs' Concession Stand out of the ground in [[Fall Float Parade]].
*Bubs' Concession Stand was previously seen landing on [[Señor]] and [[Mr. Bland]] in [[origins]].
*The loading screen reads "[[Irregular Loading Screens|load it]]".
*There is another appearance of [[Strong Mad smiling]].
*This is another appearance of a [[cinder block]].
*The music during Bubs's explanation of his relocation sale comes from [[Senorial Day]].

===Real-World References===
*Homestar Runner shouting about "peppering" is a reference to [[Looney Tunes|Bugs Bunny]]'s similar shouting during [[Wikipedia:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] after which Bugs grins and says, "That's the old pepper, boy!" This in turn is a reference to the common warm-up "[[Wikipedia:Pepper (baseball)|pepper game]]" used before baseball games, where a coach hits a grounder or low fly to the infield, and the fielders try to field and throw back the ball as quickly as they can. The coach then hits the return throw.
*Homestar's chatter starts to follow [[Wikipedia:Dr Pepper|Dr Pepper]]'s jingle from the 1970s and 1980s, "I'm a Pepper, He's a Pepper, We're a Pepper, Be a Pepper, Wouldn't you like to Be a Pepper too?"

== External Links ==
*[[HR:playdate.html|watch "Play Date"]]
*[[HR:playdate.swf|view the Flash file for "Play Date"]]
*[[Forum:14306|forum thread re: "Play Date"]]

[[Category:Shorts]]

Play Date

2008-06-12T00:15:28Z

WP CEO: /* Goofs */

{{toonnav|Shorts|playdate|The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw|Strong Bad Sings}}
[[Image:PlayDate.png|thumb|"CAN HOMESTAR COME OUT AND PLAY?"]]

Homestar and Strong Mad hang out, with disastrous results.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Nebulon}}, {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|The King of Town}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Marzipan's House]], [[The Field]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's L'est Stand]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' Monday, June 9, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 2:46

'''Page Title:''' Wanna mess around?

==Transcript==
''{Camera tilts down to reveal Homestar Runner calling on his cordless phone, sitting on his couch.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Pom Dog. It's Homedog. Yeah, dog. You wanna hang out? Oh? Oh. Firmware upgrade. No, that sounds important. No, it's cool. I'll catch you later. Boop! Oh.

''{Homestar actually hangs up the phone. Reverse shot, with a list marked "Phone People". Pom Pom (Pom Dog) is crossed out. Homestar dials the phone.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad? No? Cool.

''{Homestar hangs up. Strong Bad's name is crossed off.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Bubs! In federal prison? ''{Homestar hangs up; white frame}'' Coach Z? In juvenile prison?

''{Homestar hangs up. Coach Z's name is crossed off the list. Increasing Dutch angle shots as Strong Sad and The Cheat are crossed off. Cut to Homestar lying on his couch.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{Disappointed}'' Nah, it's cool. I forgot today was you and Brunswick stew's anniversary. 'Kay. Bye.

''{Homestar hangs up. King Of Town's name is crossed off. Homestar sighs off camera.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, well, I guess I'll just have to call —

''{Cut to Strong Mad opening the door.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' CAN HOMESTAR COME OUT AND PLAY?

''{Title "Play Date" drops down over a black background.}''

''{Crossfade to Homestar leaning out his front door talking to Strong Mad.)''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh, we don't really call it "playing" anymore, Strong Mad. ''{Close-up of Homestar}'' It's more like hanging out, messing around, kicking back...

''{Two shot of Homestar and Strong Mad}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' LET'S FOOL AROUND!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hm. Maybe not "fool around" either. ''{Close-up of Homestar}'' Why don't we get down to business? Let's play. Or, kick around. Whatever.

''{Two shot}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' LET'S PLAY BLOCKS!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Blocks, eh? I'm not opposed to the classics. Let's play some blocks.

''{Push wipe left to a tower of cinder blocks wavering slightly. Strong Mad grunts off camera and another cinder block flies to the top of the pile. Pull back to reveal Homestar pushed into the ground with the blocks on top of his chest.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{strained}'' You know, this is exactly what I thought you had in mind. ''{Close up on Homestar}'' Not sure why I agreed to it. How 'bout we play catch?

''{Push wipe left to Homestar crouching slightly, his cap on backwards, and a baseball glove floating in front of him.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All right! Fire it in here! Gimme the old pepper atta pepper whatta pepper who's a pepper— ''{Strong Mad grunts off camera and Bubs' Concession Stand lands on Homestar, who drops his glove}'' Oof!

''{Bubs pops up in the Stand}''

'''BUBS:''' It's a relocation sale! Fifty percent off all badly beaten Homestars!

''{Push wipe down to Homestar, with bandages on his head and face, and Strong Mad sitting on the couch.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{shakily & sounding exhausted}'' Okay, Strong Mad. We're going to have a little something I like to call "Migraine Time". We can play your new favorite game, ''{pull back to a wider shot}'' Feathers and Cotton. Ready? Go.

''{Homestar puts an ice pack on his face. A meteor falls through the ceiling, crushing Homestar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Waugh!

'''STRONG MAD:''' THIS ONE'S NOT MY FAULT!

''{Nebulon pokes up from the meteor, looking around. Nebulon's sound effect is heard}''

''{Push wipe up Homestar heavily bandaged, legs in casts, and sitting in a wheelchair in The Field. Strong Mad is standing next to him, smiling apologetically.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Wow! I had a real great time messing around today, Strong Mad. But next time, maybe we should just play.

''{Strong Bad enters from the left}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, thanks for babysitting the little guy for me, Homestar.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What?

'''STRONG MAD:''' AWWWW! TIME TO GO?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, sorry, man. ''{close-up of Strong Bad}'' Cinder blocks, structural damage, and meteors? It is ''definitely'' time for your nap.

''{Pull back to previous shot. Strong Mad and Strong Bad exit left, Strong Mad pouting and sobbing a little.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whew! Bubs, hit me with a Cold One. ''{Camera shift right to reveal Bubs' Concession Stand, as Homestar's wheel chair leans back. Bubs slides an 'Old One down the counter.}''

''{Cut to black. A crash is heard followed by a gulp.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ahh. Thanks, man.

''{"END" appears on the screen as music plays. A dot soon follows and the word back fades in the lower left corner.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on the "E" to continue the ending scene.
*:''{scene reopens at the [[Bubs' Concession Stand|Concession Stand]]. The 'Old One bottle lays broken on the ground}''
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, wait a minute! Aren't you supposed to be in federal prison?
*:'''BUBS:''' I got time off for snitchy behavior!
*At the end, click on the period to see The King of Town.
*:''{At Marshmallow's L'est Stand. The music from [[Date Nite]] and [[love poems]] is playing. The King sits at one end of the table, with a bowl of Brunswick stew at the other end. A candle and small jewelry box are also on the table}''
*:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' You know, Brunsy, the 50th anniversary is the ''{holds up a spoon with sour cream in it}'' dollop of sour cream year!

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===

*Fiftieth anniversaries are typically celebrated with the presentation of gold to one another.
* "Firmware upgrade" being something important is probably a reference to the [[Wikipedia:PlayStation_Portable|PlayStation Portable]] custom firmware scene.

===Remarks===

*Homestar's telephone uses [[Wikipedia:Dual-tone multi-frequency|dual-tone multi-frequency dialing]] and the numbers can therefore be determined from the tones produced. Homestar dials the following numbers:
**5-3-3 at the beginning of the toon before saying, "Hey Pom Dog..."
**8 after hanging up on Pom Pom.
**8-6-5-3-3 before talking to Strong Bad
**8 after hanging up on Strong Bad and before talking to Bubs.
**8 after hanging up on Bubs and before talking to Coach Z.
**8 after hanging up on Coach Z.
**5-3 before talking to the King of Town.
**8 after hanging up on the King of Town.
*Homestar crosses out the names on his list without using a writing utensil.
*At the end of the toon, Homestar appears to have both his legs injured from the meteor. However, his legs were the only parts of his body that were NOT hit by the meteor.
*The large wheels of Homestar's wheelchair are not attached to the chair, or to each other.
*In the Easter egg, Bubs' arms are in the older, bendy state.
*The word "END" appears to come down over the top of the first Easter Egg: in the last frame, you can see bottom half of the word at the top of the screen.

===Goofs===
*When Homestar's list first appears, The Poopsmith is listed after Strong Sad and The Cheat. However, after Homestar crosses out The Cheat, The Poopsmith is listed before The Cheat.
*In the Concession Stand Easter egg, the left wall of the stand is separated from the front at the top.
*In the beginning of the toon, Homestar is in [[Marzipan's House|Marzipan's house]]. However, when talking to Strong Mad while poking out the front door, it is most likely [[Homestar Runner's House|his own house]] we see: The walls are yellow, not blue, and the railing does not bend in an angle at the middle, like Marzipan's railing does.
**Marzipan's house was blue when shown in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], but in [[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]], it actually is yellow.

===Inside References===
*Homestar refers to Pom Pom as [[My Dog|Pom Dog]].
*The King of Town is on a date with [[Stew|Brunswick stew]].
*Strong Mad ripped Bubs' Concession Stand out of the ground in [[Fall Float Parade]].
*Bubs' Concession Stand was previously seen landing on [[Señor]] and [[Mr. Bland]] in [[origins]].
*The loading screen reads "[[Irregular Loading Screens|load it]]".
*There is another appearance of [[Strong Mad smiling]].
*This is another appearance of a [[cinder block]].
*The music during Bubs's explanation of his relocation sale comes from [[Senorial Day]].

===Real-World References===
*Homestar Runner shouting about "peppering" is a reference to [[Looney Tunes|Bugs Bunny]]'s similar shouting during [[Wikipedia:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] after which Bugs grins and says, "That's the old pepper, boy!" This in turn is a reference to the common warm-up "[[Wikipedia:Pepper (baseball)|pepper game]]" used before baseball games, where a coach hits a grounder or low fly to the infield, and the fielders try to field and throw back the ball as quickly as they can. The coach then hits the return throw.
*Homestar's chatter starts to follow [[Wikipedia:Dr Pepper|Dr Pepper]]'s jingle from the 1970s and 1980s, "I'm a Pepper, He's a Pepper, We're a Pepper, Be a Pepper, Wouldn't you like to Be a Pepper too?"

== External Links ==
*[[HR:playdate.html|watch "Play Date"]]
*[[HR:playdate.swf|view the Flash file for "Play Date"]]
*[[Forum:14306|forum thread re: "Play Date"]]

[[Category:Shorts]]

Marzipan's House

2008-06-11T15:51:42Z

WP CEO: /* Appearances */

[[Image:Marzi_Living_Room.png|thumb|400px|Marzipan's Complete Living Room]]
'''[[Marzipan]]'s House''' has siding and a front porch. Her living room contains a couch and an artwork with the words [[Hanging Objects#Marzipan's House|"Thank You"]] off-centered on it. This painting was among Strong Bad's loot in the [[Strong Bad Is in Jail Cartoon]]. Across from her couch in the living room is a mirror as seen in its reflection in [[Date Nite]]. Her kitchen contains a basic dining table, a window with a view outside, a [[Rejected Characters#Trivia Time|Trivia Time]] cookie jar, [[Mrs. Bennedetto|her microwave]], and [[Ray-Jo|her radio]]. This appears to be the only kitchen that anybody in the [[Homestar Runner Universe]] is actually seen using. [[Homestar Runner]] is actually seen in the kitchen more often than Marzipan. She has a rarely seen craft room where she prepares her protest signs. She also has a wall with "cool tapes" written on it, and a basement with chinchillas in it.

Near her door is her [[PhoneTime XL8]] answering machine where the "[[Marzipan's Answering Machine]]" feature takes place. Her yard boasts a fine [[Marzipan's Gazebo| gazebo]] and [[The Radish Patch|radish patch]].

<gallery>
Image:marzipanfrontporch.png|<center>The front porch</center>
Image:marzipanscouch.PNG|<center>The living room</center>
Image:marzipans craft room.png|<center>The crafting room</center>
Image:marzipanskitchen.PNG|<center>The kitchen</center>
Image:MarzipanAnsweringMachineV9.png|<center>The answering machine room, likely the main foyer</center>
Image:cool tapes.PNG|<center>Another view of the living room</center>
Image:Mazipan's Closet.png|<center>Marzipan's couch-side closet</center>
</gallery>

==Appearances==
*[[Where's The Cheat?]]
*[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]
*[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]
* Email [[army]] (Easter egg)
* Email [[labor day]] (Easter egg)
* Email [[personal favorites]]
* Email [[virus]]
* Email [[radio]]
* Email [[part-time job]]
* Email [[caffeine]]
* Email [[flashback]] (Easter egg)
* Email [[replacement]]
* Email [[secret recipes]]
* Email [[do over]] (Easter egg)
* Email [[secret identity]]
* Email [[narrator]]
* Email [[lady fan]]
* Email [[candy product]]
*[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]
*[[Homestar Presents: Presents]]
*[[Cool Things]]
*All [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]] toons
*[[Kid Speedy]]
*Email [[keep cool]]
*[[No Hands On Deck!]]
*Email [[strong badathlon]]
*Email [[your funeral]]
*Email [[rough copy]] (Easter egg)
*[[Date Nite]]
*[[DNA Evidence]]
*[[Quality Time]]
*[[Jibblies 2]]
*[[Toikey TV]]
*Email [[environment]]
*[[Play Date]]

[[Category:Houses]]

The Blacksmith

2008-06-11T00:50:16Z

WP CEO: Changed "Pom-Pom" to "Pom Pom"

[[Image:blacksmith.PNG|thumb|"The Blacksmith, that guy was a good guy. I hung out with him after the cartoon."]]

'''The [[Wikipedia:Blacksmith|Blacksmith]]''', like [[The Poopsmith]] and [[The Little Chef Guy]], was asked by [[Homestar Runner]] and [[Pom Pom]] of the whereabouts of [[The King of Town]]'s sheep in [[The King of Town DVD]]. This is the only character in the whole cartoon [[Strong Bad]] actually admits he likes, as he says that "this guy had some class" and that they hung out together for a while. Like Pom Pom, The Blacksmith has no visible hands. The Blacksmith also has no visible face. Even his eyes are invisible, despite being the only thing not obscured by his mask.

After a lengthy absence from the [[Homestar Runner universe]], he eventually reappeared as the drummer of the band "[[All the King's Men!]]", who performed during a [[senior prom]]. He later appeared in [[the movies]] as the maraca player in the King's mariachi band.
In [[KOT's VOQPCS!|The King of Town's Very Own Quite Popular Cartoon Show]], The Blacksmith tried to remove [[The Poopsmith]]'s stench by spraying him with perfume, but the [[Unnamed Characters#perfume cloud|perfume cloud]] died before it reached him.

==Complete Filmography==
*'''Debut:''' [[The King of Town DVD]]
*Email [[senior prom]]
*Email [[the movies]]
*[[KOT's VOQPCS!]]

[[Category: King's Servants|Blacksmith, The]]

Theme Song Video

2008-06-08T22:41:30Z

WP CEO:

{{aboutshort}}{{foremail|theme song}}
{{toonnav|Shorts|video|Kick the Can|Fluffy Puff Commercial}}
[[Image:themesong.PNG|200px|thumb|Look out Homestar, it's Strong Bad!]]

The Homestar Runner theme song video.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Homsar}} (DVD version only), {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}

'''Places:''' [[The Moon]], [[Outer Space]], [[Free Country, USA]], [[The Field]], A Frozen Pond, Various Houses, A Dojo, [[Swimming Pool]], A Racetrack, [[Skatetown, USA]], [[King of Town's Castle]], [[The Bar]]

'''Date:''' 2000

'''Running Time:''' 1:00

'''Page Title:''' Listen in wonder!

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 1}}

== Lyrics ==
Home star run go! 
Homestar run, run 
Homestar run, run

Homestar Runner, really great 
Homestar Runner, ath-a-late 
Homestar Runner, Pom Pom too 
Homestar Runner, we love you!

Homestar run, run 
Homestar run, run

Homestar Runner, do your best 
Homestar Runner, pass the test 
Homestar Runner, Mom and Dad 
Look out, Homestar! It's Strong Bad!

Homestar run, run 
Homestar run, run 
Homestar run! 
Weekdays! 

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*One of the pennants in the background of the bar says "[[LEMKE]]" on it.
*If you slow down the voices by around 20% you can tell that it really is [[The Brothers Chaps]] singing, apparently with mock-Japanese accents.
*You can see the front of Homestar's face when he's driving the [[soap box]] car. The only other times this occurs are in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] and [[Old Intro 2]].
*The song is a remake of the one from [[Super NES]], and would be featured again in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]] and an Easter egg in [[isp]].
*This would seem to be the first appearance of a [[Big Knives|Big Knife]], although the said weapon is not referred to by name until [[i love you]].
*[[Homsar]] is not in the original Theme Song Video because he had not become a character yet. (However, he is in the DVD version.)
*The Chinese behind [[Pom Pom]] (说明文件) says "Explanation files," or less literally, "Help files."

===Remarks===
*Strong Sad's head is seen at the center of the spinning wheel on the close up, but is seen on the edge after the pan-out.
*When Homestar and Strong Bad race their slot cars, the track has no slots.

=== Goofs ===
*When Homestar jumps off the diving board, he doesn't move forward in the air, and yet doesn't hit the board on his way down.
*In the toy car driving scene, when Homestar moves his head, it goes over his shirt.
*In the close-up of Homestar running on the Earth, the moon in front of the Earth disappears prematurely.

=== Glitches ===
*If you hit "Play Again", or "Rewind" from the contextual menu before the song stops playing, another instance of the song will start playing over the ending of the first one.

===Inside References===
*"Dokle 2" from the Arcade is used as an answer in the [[Homestar Quiz]].
*Bubs's dancing at the arcade clearly refers to the [[Dancin' Bubs]] game.
*The pool that Homestar Runner dives into was previously used in [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] and later in [[keep cool]].

===Fast Forward===
*When the bugle sounds to summon Homestar in [[The King of Town DVD]], it plays this tune.
*Homestar sings to the tune of his own theme song in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]].
**An Easter egg of the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[isp]] has this song with Homestar Runner's weight in CDs running.
*The scene with Homestar and Pom Pom in the bar is almost identical to the one seen at the end of [[Summer Short Shorts]].

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version contains extra scenes causing the video to end at the same time as the music. A few of these scenes feature running gags that hadn't been invented when the original video was made.
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' The Homestar Runner theme song, Mike. Take it away.

'''MIKE:''' Well, Matt, this was maybe the first video that we did.

'''MATT:''' Music video?

'''MIKE:''' Music video that we did, yeah.

'''MATT:''' It was originally going to be an intro to the site; do you remember that plan?

'''MIKE:''' That would have been—

'''MATT:''' And then we—

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' a little bit annoying.

'''MATT:''' Yeah! And then we realized that it was, like, a minute long! And half a meg or something.

'''MIKE:''' You may notice some new scenes in this version, Matt, that aren't on the one that's on the website.

'''MATT:''' That's right!

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Or they're not on the website right now. We were stupid before and did it a stupid way, and there were some gaps. This video was shorter than the song, and we needed more video.

'''MATT:''' Back when we made it, our computer was slow, so that the vide— the audio actually was in synch, right? Was it 'cause we had a bad computer that was slow?

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. Yup.

'''MATT:''' Uh, that's disgusting right there. That heaping pile of doodoo.

'''MIKE:''' What does 1+a equal?

'''MATT:''' Uh, 1+a, I think. Right?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. It's the distributive property.

'''MATT:''' Right. Oh! Get it, Homestar! Umm, "Homestar stinks". I remember we debated for a long time whether or not to make it say "sucks" or "stinks", and we went with "stinks".

'''MIKE:''' We played the safe route?

'''MATT:''' Um, [[Lemke]].

'''MIKE:''' Has— has that bowl of peanuts always been there? It's a nice bowl of peanuts.

===Fun Facts===
*The [[Wikipedia:Distributivity|distributive property]] is the algebraic principle that a number multiplying a sum of two numbers is equal to the sum of the products of the first number with each of the other two: <math>a\cdot(b+c)=a\cdot b+a\cdot c</math>. More than likely, Matt and Mike were thinking of the [[Wikipedia:Reflexive relation|reflexive property of equality]]: <math>1+a=1+a\,</math>.

==See Also==
*The [[Theme Song Video Visuals|visuals]] that occur during this film, and on the [[Theme Song DVD Visuals|DVD]].

== External Links ==
*[[HR:video.html|watch "Theme Song Video"]]
*[[HR:video.swf|view the Flash file for "Theme Song Video"]]
[[Category:Shorts]]
[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:DVD Commentary]]

alternate universe

2008-05-17T15:50:17Z

WP CEO: /* Inside References */

{{sbenav|150}}
[[Image:Doppelgangers.png|thumb|"Save the last email for Strong Bad..."]]
In this, his sesquicentenn-email, Strong Bad constructs an alternate universe portal with the help of The Cheat and visits alternate realities, along with many of his doppelgängers, while Homestar tries to make a real fruit smoothie.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Badman}}, [[Strong Badman Characters#Deutschman|Deutschman]], {{Film|Old-Timey Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Vector Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Stinkoman}}, [[Tiny-Handed Strong Bad]], {{Film|Pom Pom}} (silhouette), {{Film|Strong Mad}} (silhouette), {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Bubs}} (silhouette), {{Film|Marzipan}} (silhouette), [[The Fat Bee]], [[Keyboard Strong Bad]], [[Puppet Character Variations#Puppet Strong Bad|Puppet Strong Bad]], [[Da Huuuuuudge]], [[Teenage Variation#Teenage Strong Bad|Teenage Strong Bad]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Senor Cardgage}}, [[Sterrance]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Badman's Apartment]], [[Stages#Old-Timey Stage|Old-Timey Stage]], [[Vector Field]], [[Flashback]] [[Race Track]], [[Strong Badia]] (puppet), [[Places#Made-Up Places|Da Huuuuuudge's Enclosure]], [[Pie Factory]], Interdimensional Void, Recording Studio, [[The Pond]] (Easter Egg), Black Lodge (Easter Egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Tuesday, April 4, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 5:52

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Five}}

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing over guitar music}'' I've been walking on clouds and flipping off rainbows, on the wiiiiings of an emaiiil...

''{Cut to a wide view of the desk. Strong Sad is standing to the right of Strong Bad with a classical guitar. Strong Bad turns to face him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thanks, man.

'''STRONG SAD:''' No prob, Bob.

''{Cut back to the Lappy.}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: alternate univer$e</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
Got some ?'s for you: 
1. What would you do with a hundred million dollars? 
2. What would you do if you suddenly found yourself in 
an alternate universe somehow? 
Jody (not a girl), TX
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says "question marks" for "?'s", and "Number one" and "Number two" for "1." and "2.", respectively.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{says everything inside parentheses normally}'' Ya know, you could probably ditch that (not a girl) thing, if you just replaced it with something tough and cool and kool and tuff. Like (Bulldozer). Jody (Bulldozer). Nobody's gonna think that guy's a girl. ''{clears screen}'' Well Ms. Dozer, you pretty much answered question mark #1 ''{read "number one"}'' with question mark #2 ''{read "number two"}''. Cuz a hundred million dollars is exactly how much The Cheat spent on our alternate universe portal.

''{Cut to a wide view of the desk. The Cheat is standing to the right of the Lappy with a blender containing a [[Nintendo]] Game Boy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Isn't that right, The Cheat?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What? This thing only cost us fourteen bucks?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{agreeing The Cheat noise}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well... that's like a hundred million dollars in... dog years, right?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{affirmative The Cheat noise}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{leans towards The Cheat suddenly}'' All right! Mash go on that blender!

''{Camera zooms out a little as The Cheat presses a button on the blender. The blender shoots out white bolts as the lighting in the room flashes. Soon after, the blender stops with the Game Boy intact, and there is a large swirl to the right of the desk.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh-ho-ho! Swirly Photoshopped magic! I bet this thing could release some serious Cacodemons. So... ''{The Cheat turns to face Strong Bad}'' What? I— I just jump in?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{leaning backwards}'' Ohbee Kaybee! ''{jumps off the stool and towards the swirl}'' Jump!

''{As soon as Strong Bad touches the swirl, everything except him and the swirl turns black and white. Strong Bad distorts horizontally and vertically, then "springs" into the swirl. Cut to a panel of a comic strip with a number of buildings drawn in it. A caption at the top of the panel reads "IN A BULDING..."}''

'''NARRATOR:''' In a bulding...

''{Camera shifts to the next panel, which shows an empty room. Strong Bad appears, with "VOIP!" appearing next to him briefly. While in the comic, everything Strong Bad says is also shown in a speech bubble.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa! Where am I?

''{Next panel. Strong Badman is in an action pose on a yellow background. Everything he says also appears in a speech bubble, and is not lip-synced.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' ''{in large red text}'' STINY! ''{normal text}'' We have a visitor from an alternate universe!

''{Next panel. Strong Bad appears in the same room.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{looking to the right}'' It's Strong Badman! And his well drawn abs! ''{looks to the left}'' But... why are we in a crappy apartment instead of a secret underground lair... ''{looks back to the right}'' ...filled with secret underground gadgets?

''{Next panel. Strong Badman is shown from the chest up in front of a blue background.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' Because mere mortal... this apartment...

''{Next panel. Strong Badman appears in front of a red background with his arms in the air. A thunderclap can be heard in the background.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' ''{speech bubble is large, yellow and pointy}'' ...IS RENT CONTROLLED! ''{next speech bubbles are regular}'' And... water's included.

''{Next panel. A kitchen and bathroom sink are shown with the faucets running. The bathroom tap has the word "FROSH!" next to it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{offscreen}'' Is that why all your faucets are running?

''{Next panel. Strong Badman is standing in a room.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' ''{each syllable appears individually in red text and is not in a speech bubble}'' MU-HU-HA-HA-HAH! ''{regular speech bubble and text}'' Those dimwits down at the public works won't know what hit them!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{walking in from left}'' So, that's your evil plan? To waste water?

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' And not pay for it!!

'''STRONG BAD:''' I gotta tell ya, Strong Badman... this part of your comic is pretty boring. I'm gonna see what's going on further down the page. ''{jumps out of the current panel}'' Jump!

''{He falls down three panels. There is a woman with a big knife sitting on a giant robotic snake.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh! Now we're talkin'!

''{Next panel. Strong Badman is in the left of the panel, Strong Bad in the center, and there is a TV with the previous panel on it (minus Strong Bad) to the right.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' You're not kidding!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Wha?

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' Now we have expanded basic cable...

''{Next panel. Close-up of a cable running through a hole in the wall.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' ''{offscreen}'' Stolen from my neighbor!

''{Next panel. Strong Bad is in front of a yellow background.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Who's writing this issue? The geniuses behind She-Hulk? ''{looks up}'' The Cheat?

''{Cut back to the Computer Room.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voice is slightly distorted, and a speech bubble appears from the swirl}'' A little frappe action, if you please.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{single The Cheat noise}''

''{The Cheat turns around and turns on the blender. Cut back to the previous comic panel. Strong Bad disappears with the same "VOIP!" with which he appeared.}''

''{Next panel. Strong Badman is in the same pose as when he first appeared, but flipped around and with a green background.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' ''{in large red text}'' STINY! ''{normal text}'' Keep flushing those toilets!

''{Cut to the Old-Timey stage. Old-Timey Strong Bad is standing on the stage with curtains behind him. To the left of him is a sign that reads "STRONG BAD and his GOODE-TIME PARLOR TRICKS". An audience can be seen silhouetted at the bottom of the screen.}''

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' Yes, and for my next parlor trick, I shan't make anything ''{faces left}'' appear!

''{Strong Bad appears to the left of Old-Timey Strong Bad. He is still in color.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh. H-hi.

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' ''{crowd starts booing}'' You brightly colored baboon! You've ruined my vaudeville!

''{The Homestar Runner's dance music plays as tomatoes are thrown at the two Strong Bads.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ah! Shades of gray tomatoes!

''{Strong Bad disappears as Old-Timey Strong Bad looks to the left.}''

''{Cut to Vector Strong Bad floating above a vector field. Strong Bad appears to the right.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What is up, my enormous vector brother?

''{As Vector Strong Bad speaks, his words come out of his mouth in red vector-style text. They disappear after a short while.}''

'''VECTOR STRONG BAD:''' HELLOTE.

'''STRONG BAD:''' So, uh... ''{cut to close-up of Strong Bad}'' what do you do for fun around here? ''{cut back to previous view}''

'''VECTOR STRONG BAD:''' I SPLO STUFF UP.

''{Strong Bad jumps backwards slightly to avoid the "UP", which promptly explodes with vector graphics.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, that's pretty cool.

''{Stinkoman walks in from the left.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Hey, guys! How's challenges?

'''VECTOR STRONG BAD:''' WHAT IT IS MY DOGE?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, you two know each other?

''{Cut to close-up of Stinkoman.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{smiles}'' Oh, totally sure! ''{leans forward and waves one of his arms}'' He's my training simulator!

''{Cut back to previous view.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Check it out!

''{Vector Strong Bad starts moving left and right, shooting squares from his mouth. Stinkoman jumps around and dodges the squares. Strong Bad also jumps over and around the squares, but appears to have more difficulty doing so. Game music from [[video games]] plays. After a few seconds, they all stop.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Nice work, big nose!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Big nose?

'''STINKOMAN:''' Your nose!

'''VECTOR STRONG BAD:''' LEVEL 2

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh-oh.

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Uh-oh.

''{Stinkoman silently laughs as Vector Strong Bad shoots a series of squares directly at Strong Bad. As they explode, Strong Bad disappears. Vector Strong Bad then shoots some squares at Stinkoman, which he dodges.}''

''{Cut to a field in the style of [[flashback]]. Tiny Handed Strong Bad is standing close to the camera. Strong Bad appears to the right. All text appears in a white rectangle near the bottom of the screen.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' And so, ''{Strong Bad starts looking around}'' both Strong Bads entered the 'Dig To China With Your Ears Contest.'

'''STRONG BAD:''' This is just about... the second or third to worst contest I ever heard of.

''{Cut to a silhouetted view of the field. Pom Pom, Strong Mad, Coach Z, Bubs and Marzipan are standing to the right of a banner which reads "the contest began!!". Tiny Handed Strong Bad is underneath the banner.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' The contest began!

''{Cut to a close-up of Tiny Handed Strong Bad rubbing his head on the ground near a line marked "start".}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' And tiny-handed Strong Bad rubbed his head on the ground... ''{cut to a wide view; Strong Bad is sitting on a hammock with his Dangeresque sunglasses on.}'' while our Modern Day Hero maxed and relaxed.

''{Cut to Tiny Handed Strong Bad standing near the camera again, as in the first shot. A hole is visible near the background, and a giant glass of root beer appears in the center.}''

'''TINY HANDED STRONG BAD:''' I struck it rich!

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Said T.H.S.B.

''{Cut to a zoomed out view of the previous scene, but with the giant glass of root beer in the center. The Fat Bee is seen holding Strong Bad's hammock up.}''

'''TINY HANDED STRONG BAD:''' A giant mug of frosty root beer!

''{Old-Timey Strong Bad appears to the left in a bathing suit. Tiny Handed Strong Bad looks at him.}''

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' Zounds! A sarsparilla swimming hole! Last one in's a freemason! ''{he half-runs toward the root beer and jumps in}'' Jump! ''{this last word does not appear in a subtitle}''

''{Strong Bad disappears. Keyboard Strong Bad appears at the bottom left of the screen and dances while playing a tune.}''

''{Cut to a screen in the style of Puppet Stuff. Puppet Strong Bad is standing in front of the Strong Badia fence. The Tire and Stop Sign are visible. Strong Bad appears to the right. Music starts playing and both Strong Bads dance in sync with each other. After a moment, Strong Bad disappears again.}''

''{Cut to Da Huuuuuudge's Enclosure. Strong Bad appears lying down on top of it. He slowly slides down, then disappears.}''

''{Cut to the abandoned factory from [[highschool]]. Teenage Strong Bad is standing to the right. Strong Bad appears to the left.}''

'''TEENAGE STRONG BAD:''' Stripèd pants.

''{Strong Bad disappears. Cut to the interdimensional void, which changes colors constantly.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voice slightly distorted}'' The Cheat! Cool out on the liquefy button, man!

''{Cut to a close-up of Homestar standing next to the blender in the Computer Room. The blender still contains the Game Boy, but now also contains a green substance. One and a half avocados are sitting on the desk, along with a jar that reads "Total Load". Homestar is pressing buttons on the blender.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm trying to make me a real fruit smoothie here!

''{Cut to a wide shot. Tiny Handed Strong Bad is standing to the left, with Senor Cardgage, Old-Timey Strong Bad and Da Huuuuuudge to the right.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Any of you guys got any bee pollen?

''{As Homestar presses another button, Strong Bad appears next to the portal and Strong Badman appears on the left side of the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Homestar! Quit messing with my alternate universe portal!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{slowly}'' I'm trying to replenish some electrolytes, if you don't mind!

''{Homestar presses another button on the blender. He and the portal both suddenly disappear, and Sterrance appears on the desk.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{looking around}'' Wow. Just look at all these Strong Bad-related faces. What an all-star cast! What say we all form a supergroup and record a number one jam!

''{All of the Strong Bad clones groan.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{off-screen, simultaneously with Old-Timey Strong Bad}'' I guess...

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' ''{simultaneously with Stinkoman}'' If we must.

''{The screen fades to black, and then cuts to Strong Bad in a recording studio. Some music starts playing, and continues through the rest of the e-mail.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' There's a crazy world of e-mails in this crazy world. ''{Cut to a reversed view of Strong Bad.}'' Checkin' 'em down, checkin' 'em down...

''{Cut to Stinkoman standing next to Strong Badman and Old-Timey Strong Bad.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{singing}'' I hope it's from a girrrrrrrl! 

''{Old-Timey Strong Bad winces and looks toward Stinkoman on his last word. Cut to a zoomed out view of the scene, revealing (from left to right), Stinkoman, Strong Badman, Old-Timey Strong Bad, Strong Bad, Vector Strong Bad, Keyboard Strong Bad, Senor Cardgage, Teenage Strong Bad, Sterrance and Tiny Handed Strong Bad. Strong Badman's words appear in speech bubbles next to him.}''

'''ALL STRONG BADS:''' ''{singing}'' Save the last email for Strong Bad!

''{Cut to Senor Cardgage at the recording studio.}''

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' ''{singing}'' Let the little childrens go.

''{Cut to Vector Strong Bad in the field, which now has blue lines running above and below it.}''

'''VECTOR STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I HOPE THEY DON'T A SPLODE

''{Cut back to a panning view of all the Strong Bads.}''

'''ALL STRONG BADS:''' ''{singing}'' Save the last email for Strong—

''{Cut to Old-Timey Strong Bad in the recording studio just before "Bad".}''

'''ALL STRONG BADS:''' —Bad!

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' Save the last email for Strong Bad!

''{Da Huuuuuudge fades in from the right.}''

'''DA HUUUUUUDGE:''' ''{singing in a high voice with vibrato}'' Save the last email for meeeee!

''{A comic panel with Strong Badman in front of a green background slides into the upper-left corner toward the end of Da Huuuuuudge's line.}''

'''STRONG BADMAN:''' Save the last email!

''{Cut back to a view of all the Strong Bads. The camera slowly zooms out during Strong Bad's line.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All my Strong Bad doppelgängers represent. Sesquicentenn-email, 2005. I-I mean six.

''{The music stops. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:coachzeyeballpearhomestar.PNG|thumb|"I'm not at liberty to discuss what I just did in my pants!"]]
*At the end, click on Teenage Strong Bad's hat to see a creation of Strong Sad's ideas from [[Sbemail 150?!?]]:
:''{Piano music, fade in on Coach Z holding a pear covered with eyeballs while black coffee continually streams down his mouthless face. Cut to a close-up of the pear with its eyes googling, then to another shot of the pear from behind Coach Z with his arm raised higher. Then cut to a close-up of Coach Z's head. Fade via black to the original shot. Homestar appears next to Coach Z.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{subtitled, in a fake backwards-sounding voice}'' Coach Z, if you're not going to eat that eyeball pear... ''{clears his throat, starts talking normally with no subtitles}'' I suggest you give it to someone who will.
:'''COACH Z:''' ''{distressed}'' I don't know what's going on, Homestar, but I'm not at liberty to discuss what I just did in my pants!

*At the end, click on Senor Cardgage's head to see Strong Bad's meeting with him:
:''{Senor Cardgage is sitting in a boat on a lake, holding a stick with fishing line tied to the end, hanging over the side. Strong Bad appears in the boat.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Wow, a fishing trip with Senor Cardgage! My life is complete.
:'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Alonzo Mourning to you, Myrtlebeth. Say hello to my tacklebox. ''{holds up said tacklebox}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Hello there, tacklebox. ''{smiles}'' I'm such a big fan.
:'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Well, if you could just sign right here on the dotty line, the adaption will be complete.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''You're'' gonna adopt me?
:''{Strong Bad disappears}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{offscreen and echoing slightly}'' Aw, man!

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*Strong Bad's conversion of fourteen dollars into [[Wikipedia:Aging in dogs|dog years]] refers to the often-confused (and inaccurate) folk formula that dogs age seven "years" for every human year.
*[[Wikipedia:Rent control|Rent control]] is a policy used in some urban communities where the market price is deemed too high. Rent controlled dwellings are highly coveted in the communities where they are available.
*[[Wikipedia:Vaudeville|Vaudeville]] is a style of multi-act theatre that flourished in North America from the 1880s to the 1920s, later succeeded by silent movies. Acts included anything from acrobats to mathematicians and from song-and-dance duos to trick high divers.
*[[Wikipedia:Sarsaparilla|Sarsaparilla]] (spelled incorrectly as "sarsparilla" in the flashback scene) is a type of plant used to make beverages, and is a common ingredient in [[Wikipedia:Root Beer|root beer]]. It is more commonly pronounced "sass-parilla" than "sar-sparilla" or "sar-sa-parilla". It is also commonly misspelled "sasparilla".
*A freemason is a member of a fraternal men's organization such as the [[Wikipedia:York Rite|York Rite]] or the [[Wikipedia:Scottish Rite|Scottish Rite]]. Other organizations permitting women and/or minors as members, including [[Wikipedia:DeMolay International|DeMolay]], [[Wikipedia:Job's Daughters International|Job's Daughters]], [[Wikipedia:Order of the Eastern Star|Eastern Star]],fall under the umbrella of [[Wikipedia:freemasonry|freemasonry]], etc.
*[[Wikipedia:Electrolyte|Electrolytes]] are solutions of [[Wikipedia:Ion|ions]] (such as sodium and potassium salts) that are lost during [[Wikipedia:perspiration|perspiration]]. Drinks containing electrolytes, such as popular sports drinks, are often used to ease [[Wikipedia:Dehydration|dehydration]].
*A [[Wikipedia:Supergroup (music)|Supergroup]] is a musical group comprising artists who were previously members of earlier, well-known groups.
*A [[Wikipedia:Doppelgänger|Doppelgänger]] refers either to a creature from folklore that mimics people's appearances as an omen of death, or to the theory that everyone in the world has someone else that looks exactly like them.
*[[Wikipedia:Adobe Photoshop|Adobe Photoshop]] is a widely used image editor from Adobe Systems Incorporated. The term "[[Wikipedia:Photoshopping|Photoshopped]]" has come to mean any digital edit done to an image, even if it wasn't done in Photoshop itself. The term is often used pejoratively to say that something is rather obviously edited.
*Stinkoman calls Strong Bad "big nose", a derogatory term used in eastern Asia to describe Westerners, whose noses tend to be genetically larger than Asians'. This is also a reference to the anime art style, where noses are less pronounced than most American cartoons.

===Trivia===
*This email was the longest email when released, almost a full minute longer than [[flashback]] (previously the longest). However, it has since been surpassed by [[retirement]].
*When Strong Bad jumps down several panels in the Strong Badman comic, he passes a panel containing an explosion (with the word "TADAOW!"), and another panel with [[Strong Badman Characters#Deutschman|Deutschman]] (from [[haircut]]) holding a chain of sausages. Deutschman is saying "KINDER UBERRASCHUNG!!", the German name for [[Wikipedia:Kinder Surprise|Kinder Surprise]] (though Uberraschung should be spelled Überraschung).
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#weird dreams|weird dreams]]".
*This is the first time Stinkoman has been seen smiling without laughing.
*This is the first time we hear the Da Huuuuuudge's voice.
*This marks the second time in which characters from at least two different universes come together in one universe. The first time was in [[20X6 vs. 1936]], in which The Homestar Runner shows up on [[Planet K]].
*When the portal appears, along the side of it, there is some pixel disruption, where you can see the individual pixels.

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad has [[Lack of Visible Body Parts#Strong Bad's Nose|no visible nose]] [[Lack of Visible Body Parts#Ears|or ears]], despite the fact that those body parts were mentioned in this email.
*Senor Cardgage is the only one of Strong Bad's alter egos who had been seen talking with him prior to this email, as seen in [[kind of cool]], [[garage sale]], and [[Senorial Day]].
*This is a rare occasion of [[Strong Bad and Strong Sad's Relationship#Strong Bad and Strong Sad Getting Along|Strong Bad being nice to Strong Sad]].
*In [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], Strong Sad is seen writing with his right hand. However, in this email, Strong Sad is playing the [[Strong Sad's Guitar|guitar]] [[Left Handedness|left-handed]], though it is possible that Strong Sad is ambidextrous.
*When Strong Bad types "Well, Ms. Dozer" he types Ms. (pronounced 'miz', used by both married and single women) but pronounces it 'miss', which is the form of address for unmarried women.
*If every dollar was a "dog year", then according to the [[Wikipedia:Dog years|popular formula]], the money would still only sum up to ninety-eight dollars.
**Conversely, if Strong Bad were correct, each "dollar in dog years" would be worth over $70,000.
*Frappé is spelled as "Frappe" when Strong Bad talks to The Cheat. It is lacking the acute accent.
*During the Vector Strong Bad segment, the cartoon's border changes to red.
*When the mug of root beer appears, the hole is under the hammock; before, it was beside the hammock.
*Homestar pronounces the word "fruit" without his usual speech impediment.
*Not all Strong Bad versions were included, such as his [[Powered by The Cheat]] version or his [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters|Teen Girl Squad]] version.

*During the recording session at the end, Strong Badman's words appear in a speech bubble, but Vector Strong Bad's words do not appear in text as they always otherwise do.
*In the same scene, the wall's grey spot pattern is made from a single image of dots copied and pasted multiple times. This results in some half dots appearing between the copied images.
*In the recording studio, the characters use wireless microphones. While wireless microphones are handy in live performance (to prevent signal loss on a long cable run, as well as to avoid tangling of cables), they are actually rarely used in studio work because cabled microphones deliver truer fidelity.
*The puppet Strong Bad is the only doppelgänger Strong Bad visited that did not appear in the ending screen, for obvious reasons.
*As Coach Z moves his head during his line in the Black Lodge Easter egg scene, the way the coffee dripping from the bottom of his head is animated makes it look as though the coffee breaks the rules of gravity; it seems to be dripping at an angle.
*In the Easter Egg with Senor Cardgage, when Strong Bad disappears, his voice can still be heard even though he is probably far away from where Senor Cardgage is.

===Goofs===
[[Image:Altuniv1318-1319.png|thumb|From blue to green.]]
*At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad's reflection is out of sync with his movements.
*After cutting to the wide shot showing The Cheat with the blender, the Lappy's screen includes the text "Isn't that right, The Cheat?", even though Strong Bad didn't actually type it.
*When Strong Bad first jumps into the alternate universe portal, his stool disappears briefly while he's in the process of warping. It briefly reappears after Strong Bad leaves, but for the remainder of the email, the stool is missing.
*During the comic scene, the panel below the one after "Because, mere mortal..." has a blue background at first. When it moves to the next panel ("Is rent controlled!"), the background changes to green.
*Several times during the email, Strong Bad's pants change color from black to dark navy (although the pant legs remain the same color), such as the first scene with Vector Strong Bad and the recording session at the end.
[[Image:Alternateuniversegoof.png|thumb|Disappearing start line.]]
*In the "Dig to China with your ears contest" part, the starting line disappears when the camera cuts to the giant mug of root beer.

*In the "Save The Last Email" song, Vector Strong Bad is behind Strong Badman, yet his white and green lines appear above Strong Badman when talking/singing.
*Stinkoman does not have any shine on his chest. This also happened in [[Happy Trogday]], prior to this toon.

===Fixed Goofs===
*When the email was released, "girl" was misspelled as "gir" in Jody's email. This was fixed shortly thereafter.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad's intro song refers to flipping [[the bird]].
*Strong Sad was previously seen playing an acoustic guitar in a [[Sketchbook 2006#SK-2006-03-02|Sketchbook]] entry, although that guitar was a twelve-string. Here he plays a six-string classical guitar.
[[Image:HSRTimeMachine.PNG|thumb|Homestar's Time machine]]
*The alternate dimension machine is a [[Blender#Game Boy in a Blender|Game Boy in a Blender]]. In [[2 emails]], Homestar claims to have made a time machine by sticking a Game Boy in a [[blender]] while the email is fast-forwarding.
*This is another example of [[mashing]].
*The "In a bulding"  line, including its accent and pronunciation, is straight from the [[Sketchbook (video)|DVD Sketchbook]] (though it was spelled correctly there).
*The woman on Strong Badman's television is holding a [[Big Knives|Big Knife]].
*"Doge" is a reference to [[Biz Cas Fri 1]], where Homestar misspells the word "dog" ("dawg") the same way.
*Strong Bad comments that the "Dig To China With Your Ears Contest" is the "second or third to worst contest I ever heard of." The worst contests that originated in children's storybooks are likely to be the "Strongest Man in the World Contest" from the [[Original Book]], and the "Ten Step Footrace" from [[flashback]].

*The fence used for the puppet Strong Badia set is the same one used in [[Homestar vs. Other Little Girl]].
*This is another appearance of the [[Dangeresque (character)|Dangeresque]] sunglasses.
*Strong Bad previously mentioned "real fruit smoothies" in [[mascot]], saying that he had promised to buy some for the team if they won the game.
*Homestar Runner's "real fruit smoothie" is another example of a [[concoction]].
*Stinkoman's line in the song "I hope it's from a girl" is a possible reference to the e-mail song in [[dragon]] ("Every week I hope that it's from a female!").
*Strong Bad visits many previous emails in his travels:
**Strong Badman, his well-drawn abs and Stiny originated in [[superhero name]].
**Deutschman originated in [[haircut]].
**Vector Strong Bad is from [[video games]].
**Stinkoman originated in [[japanese cartoon]].
**Tiny-handed Strong Bad is from [[flashback]].
**Keyboard Strong Bad originated in [[crazy cartoon]] and played the same song then as in this email. 
**Da Huuuuuudge and Sterrance are both from [[animal]].
**Teenage Strong Bad and the term "stripèd pants" are from [[highschool]].
**Senor Cardgage originated in [[kind of cool]].
*In addition, some of the music accompanying the scenes Strong Bad visits are also reused from other parts of the website. They include:
**The music from [[action figure]]; later used in [[suntan]] and [[army]] (during the Strong Badman scene).
**Old-Timey Strong Bad's theme music from [[Parsnips A-Plenty]]; later used in [[50 emails]] (during the Old-Timey scene).
**[[The Homestar Runner]]'s dance music (also during the Old-Timey scene).
**The synthesized drum tune from [[Main Page 21]] (during the [[Vector Field]] scene).
**The music from [[flashback]] (during the [[Original Book]] scene).
**Keyboard Strong Bad's demo music from [[crazy cartoon]].
**The weird music during Coach Z's dream scene from [[A Jorb Well Done]]; later used in [[lures & jigs]] (during the fishing Easter egg scene with Senor Cardgage).
**The creepy music during Strong Sad's storyboard scenes from [[Sbemail 150?!?]] (during the Coach Z Easter egg).
*The Easter egg with coffee-drenched Coach Z and the eyeball pear begins exactly as described and storyboarded by Strong Sad in [[Sbemail 150?!?]].
**The word ''sesquicentenn-email'', ("150th email"), was also coined by Strong Sad in Sbemail 150?!?.
*The fishing boat, lake and background sounds are all from [[lures & jigs]].
*The word "VOIP" is a reference to the [[Visor Robot]]'s sound effect from [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]].

=== Real-World References ===
*[[Cacodemons]] are evil spirits or demons, the opposite being an angel or "agathodemon". However, the name cacodemon is better known as the flying, red, one-eyed enemy from the ''[[Wikipedia:Doom|Doom]]'' series of computer games. The plot for these games involved demons escaping hell via portals.
*The pronunciation "ohbee kaybee" for "okay" was frequently said by the character Mushmouth on the animated ''[[Wikipedia:Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids|Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids]]'', as well as being used by Bill Cosby himself in his famous 'Dentists' routine.
*The [[font]] in the comic book alternative universe, known as "Peanuts", was designed to emulate the style of lettering used in the ''[[Wikipedia:Peanuts|Peanuts]]'' comics.
*[[Wikipedia:She-Hulk|She-Hulk]] is a comic book heroine from [[Wikipedia:Marvel Comics|Marvel Comics]] and the cousin of ''[[Wikipedia:Hulk (comics)|The Incredible Hulk]]''. She-Hulk comics were once noted for their [[Fourth Wall Breaks|fourth-wall breaks]], similar to Strong Bad's comments on the quality of the Strong Badman comic and his ability to travel from panel to panel. These not-always-appreciated gags were introduced by writer [[Wikipedia:John Byrne|John Byrne]], who may be the "genius" Strong Bad ridicules.
**However, in the commentary to this email, the Brothers Chaps claim they were not aware of this when writing the email.
*The phrase 'maxed and relaxed' may be a reference to the ''[[Wikipedia:The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air|Fresh Prince of Bel-Air]]'' theme song, in which [[Wikipedia:Will Smith|Will Smith]] states he is "maxin' and relaxin' all cool". Additionally, Smith uses the phrase throughout the series and his own raps.
*The surreal Coach Z Easter egg is an homage to a famous scene from the similarly surreal TV series, ''[[Wikipedia:Twin Peaks|Twin Peaks]]''. The background for the scene featured red drapes, and the starring character, Dale Cooper, spills coffee on himself, represented here by Coach Z's streaming hat of coffee. The unusual speech used by Homestar, meanwhile, was the hallmark of the scene; the actors actually spoke their dialogue backwards, and the recording was then played in reverse, so that the words were heard by the audience in their proper order (though they still sounded unusual and contorted, just as Homestar sounds here). It seems as though Matt Chapman faked this technique, rather than actually recording his lines backwards. ''Twin Peaks'' was co-created by director [[Wikipedia:David Lynch|David Lynch]], whom Strong Sad cited as an influence in [[Sbemail 150?!?]]. Additionally, the phrase "I'm not at liberty to discuss [...]" is a direct lift from the lines of Major Garland Brigs, a character on Twin Peaks, who is often unable to talk about what he does for a living.
*[[Wikipedia:Alonzo Mourning|Alonzo Mourning]] is an NBA basketball player.
*The [[sound effect]] in the fishing Easter Egg that starts right after Strong Bad says "Wow, a fishing trip with Senor Cardgage!" is from ''[[Wikipedia:Fishing with John|Fishing With John]]''.



== DVD Version ==
*[[Alternate Universe Video|Video of Matt singing]] the song from the email is included as a separate Easter egg.
*The DVD version features creators' commentary. To access it, switch the DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

=== Commentary Transcript ===
'''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]], [[Old-Timey Strong Bad]]

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' I refuse to speak about this SBEmail!

'''MIKE:''' Ohhhh, Old-Timey Strong Bad.

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' Aren't you glad to see-a me?

'''MIKE:''' Do you go by Old-Timey Strong Bad or are you just Strong Bad?

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' I'll go by you with a spine-toothed comb!

'''MIKE:''' Uhh... I forgot—

'''OLD-TIMEY STRONG BAD:''' And I'm out!

'''MATT:''' Oh! Uh, who was that, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' I don't know. I guess he didn't think he could make it though the whole email?

'''MATT:''' I don't know. He said he was refusing to comment on it.

'''MIKE:''' I didn't remember that Strong Sad played, uh, backup on the email song.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, it's a sweet— it's one of the few— one of the few tender moments between those brothers. When he says "No prob Bob," it makes me want to cry.

'''MIKE:''' So, it was—

'''MATT:''' Like those times when we were kids and you would be nice and let me hang out with you and John Radle.

'''MIKE:''' They were few and far between. It was usually just so we could beat you up or pour something on you.

'''MATT:''' Yeah...

'''MIKE:''' Spray something in your eye.

'''MATT:''' Uh, Gameboy in a blender, Mike, so that's a reference to— What email is that? The one where Strong Bad fast— The one where he fast forwards. 2 emails?

'''MIKE:''' 2 emails.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Look at that!

'''MATT:''' Whoa!

'''MIKE:''' Look at that portal!

'''MATT:''' Whoa! What a portal! ''{pause}'' Definitely. Portals— Anybody that's developing portals right now, in the military or in science needs to stop. 'Cause video— if video games have taught us anything, it's that a bunch of evil demons from Hell are gonna come out of it, and, kill us all. ''{pause}'' Oh! In— In Principal Belving's office!

'''MIKE:''' So, this email was kind of, you know we hadta, do something, special for 150.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, definitely. Bring all the Strong Bad— the various Strong Bads together.

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' The many faces of Strong Bad.

'''MATT:''' The many facets, even.

'''MIKE:''' This is, uh... we had written a Strong Badman years ago, three or four years ago, that was sort of based on this premise.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, he was just gonna get an apartment, and feel like his apartment was gonna help him take over the world, and he'd just have a landlord that he would— He hits him with ping— a ping-pong

'''MIKE:''' A ping-pong ball, yeah. Is that in here?

'''MATT:''' No.

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' No.

'''MATT:''' It's not.

'''MIKE:''' I can't remember. He throws a ping-pong ball—

'''MATT:''' At his landlord.

'''MIKE:''' Landlord, yeah.

'''MATT:''' ''{overlapping}'' Yeah. ''{pause}'' Uh, it was just on cable. Whoa. And on Animal Planet. Probably.

'''MIKE:''' So, apparently She-Hulk was well known for breaking the fourth wall.

'''MATT:''' And having good writing. ''{laughs}''

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, too. Which we didn't know.

'''MATT:''' ''{overlapping}'' Yeah, we didn't know. I just assumed She-Hulk— I've never read an issue of She-Hulk. One time she was in this Fantastic Four versus X-Men that I got. That's about all the exposure I have.

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' I think I read about her in the Marvel— Didn't they have those Marvel universe, just kind of encyclopedias?

'''MATT:''' Yeah, yeah. ''{pause}'' Good-time parlor tricks. So, back then, people were apparently so easily amused that you could do nothing. You could make nothing appear, and people would— people would ooh and ahh at you. ''{pause}'' Look, so these guy are buddies, Mike! My doge!

'''MIKE:''' That's a reference to a Biz Caz Fri.

'''MATT:''' Oh, Stinkoman. And to the right!

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Your nose.

'''MATT:''' Uh... Oh, look out, Stinkoman. ''{pause}'' Uh... There he goes, rubbin' his head on the ground. He's wearing his Dangerask shades.

'''MIKE:''' Dangerask shades.

'''MATT:''' Dangeresque.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, it's like, sort of like danger.

'''MATT:''' What?

'''MIKE:''' Dangeresque. It's means sort of like danger.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, I was saying Dangerask. That's why I corrected myself. Oh, look, there's Casio head Strong Bad. Oh, look, now, he's in the real world, and in a real Strong Badia.

'''MIKE:''' That's in the next room.

'''MATT:''' It is.

'''MIKE:''' It's where we play video games.

'''MATT:''' Mmm hmm. ''{laughs}'' That's all that Strong Bad talks about, is stripèd pants. ''{referring to the vitamin bottle behind Homestar}'' Total Load! Do you think our brother still has some Total Load somewhere in his house. He used to get Ultra-Fuel.

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' Hy-hydro Fuel and Ultra-Fuel?

'''MATT:''' Yeah, yeah. ''{pause}'' What up, Cardgage?

'''MIKE:''' Is Cardgage's hair backwards there?

'''MATT:''' Probably. I think his hair doesn't follow any— His comb-over switches sides. ''{pause}'' What game is in there? Weird Dreams, remember that game?

'''MIKE:''' I do remember.

'''MATT:''' Sometimes, you were inside a giant cotton candy machine. ''{laughs}'' ''{pause}'' Nobody wants to record a hit— a #1 jam with him. ''{pause}'' Hey, we're using a pop screen on our microphone right now, Mike!

'''MIKE:''' And we're sitting in a room with ceiling tiles on the wall just like that!

'''MATT:''' It's true. ''{laughs}'' Old-Timey Strong Bad did not like that high note Stinkoman tried to hit. Sterrence is not singing. ''{pause}'' This is a pretty good song.

'''MIKE:''' I like that, uh, guitar going in the background.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' ''{guitar noises}''

'''MATT:''' Da Huuuuuudge ''{pronounces 'the'}'' has a heavenly voice. Who woulda thought?

'''MIKE:''' Senor Muybueno's not in there.

'''MATT:''' Well, there's a few that it's missing, but this is the, you know—

'''MIKE:''' Those are all the ones that have appeared more than once, probably.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Except Da Huuuuuudge has only appeared once before that.

===Fun Facts===
*Senor Muybueno is from the [[Strong Libs]] Easter Egg from [[lackey]] and the [[Kicking The Cheat]] Lite scene of [[pop-up]].

==External Links==
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== Parents ==

It says they might live with their parents, but I think "Parents" are only mentioned in Strong Bad Emails "The Facts" and "Origins" and in the toon "Homestarloween Party." -Amy Whifflepoof

So... what's the problem? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 20:00, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Between floors ==

Well, I got the following screenshot from [[Sbemail_150%3F%21%3F]] that shows the floor/ceiling between floors. I can't quite interpret it though. Crawlspace? Or is the blue thing a window? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:37, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

:Too small to ever be anything important, it looks like just the space between floors, which is usually a good foot or so thick. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:40, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

::Or could it be the true meaning of Decemberween? ;) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:17, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
[[Image:Between floors.png|500px]]

== Basement Access ==

The article says that the basement is accessed from the left of the computer room when facing the computer. However, Strong Bad entered the basement from the ''right'' of the computer room in [[sibbie]].
:No, he exits the computer right, then we see him enter the basement from the left. We don't know what happened in the cut. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:25, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

== Apartment? ==

Strong Bad may live in an apartment as he says in one of his scroll button raps:
"I keep my buttons on scroll and all the ladies in check, did you find the spare key to my apartment yet? What." 00:55, 12 July 2006 (UTC) [[User:Alexzero77|Alexzero77]]
:That song's the only mention of an apartment on the site. If there was a shred of corroborating evidence, you might be on to something, but I'd write it off as Strong Bad's boasting. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:59, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

== Morning Routine ==

Watch the email [[morning routine]]. While in the basement, Strong Bad moves '''to the right''' in order to get to his computer. Meaning there's a second unseen route upstairs. (You could probably consider [[mile]] to be a part of this, since The Cheat makes Strong Bad go through the basement.) And even though we don't know what happened between cuts, It's unlikely Strong Bad did anything with a popcorn bucket over his hand. -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]] 07:12, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

== Parents? ==

Where is it implied that the Brothers Strong still live with their parents? I don't see it anywhere. Except in [[the facts]], and in that scene, Strong Bad also said that baby Strong Sad was sleeping. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 08:09, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
::In [[Homestarloween Party]], Strong Bad said that his mom helped him with his costume. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:46, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
:::But it's possible to help someone with their costume and not live with them.{{User:Shwoo/sig}} 00:40, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
::::How 'bout, it's a throw away joke? As in, they did it to be funny, and they don't plan on using whatever little back story they created along with it. And Shwoo is right, even parents don't have to live with they're children in order to help them. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 00:42, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

== Window in computer room ==

If you look closely at the image of the full computer room in the article of House of the Brothers Strong, there is a window missing. There should be a window with the sycamore branch outside (like in [[cheat talk]]), right?
--[[User: Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]]

:There's also a window in [[little animal]], but they are probably running around in circles. I would assume that the window is behind the viewer's POV of [[:Image:ComputerRoomFull.PNG]], which is why we don't see it. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:13, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

== Floor plan, anyone? ==

I've already done the first floor, and I can start on the basement right away. Let me know if you're interested.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 19:47, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

== Computer Room layout. ==

If you watch the beginning of the first Strong Bad Emails DVD, he walks into the room from the left and the shag carpeting starts at the doorway, and the window, with the Sycamore outside is clearly visable. To the right we see Strong Sad peeking out of a purple room (apparently his). And in the animations extra, it shows that they may have intended to leave the hole on the right wall where Strong Bad's old computer blew him into Strong Sad's room. That change was probably never done (and the wall left solid) because Strong Bad in this scene is still using his old computer before it exploded. But it's not just a purple hallway since in the email One Step Ahead, it shows that outside of Strong Sad's room is the traditional blue walls and grey floor.

== kitchen ==

I assume that there is also a kitchen in the brother's house. In “big white face” Strongbad baked two cakes. In “secret identity” Homestar makes hamburgers in their house and has the Poopsmith and the King over. In “jibblies2” Homestar makes a sandwich at their house as well. Strongbad had to get the pasta salad from somewhere in “old comics”. Also, Strongbad needs somewhere to keep all his potate bags seen in several issues. Same goes for his Swiss Cake Rolls. The Schenectady Crispies commercial from “labor day” was filmed in an unknown kitchen. It looks like Marzipan's but without the sink or the cookie jar directly over the counter behind the table. This could have been his kitchen. He is seen in the same kitchen in “part time job” where he is hiding from Homestar for an unknown reason. (In the hrwiki file for said email it states that this is Marzipan's kitchen, but that can't be true since the sink and the jar are missing but the cupboards are correct with the table for the mystery kitchen. Putting Homestar in there doesn't make it Marzipan's since it is a known fact that Homestar frequents both her kitchen and Strongbad's house uninvited.) It just seems to me a house is incomplete without a kitchen anyway. {{unsigned|Edwardgindel|00:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC)}}
:Umm, we already know that. There's a page on it. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 00:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

OK then I don't understand. This is an article about the various rooms found in the house. Sam says that they already know there is a kitchen, but the article that should contain info about it does not include it. Is there a reason for this? {{unsigned|Edwardgindel|04:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC)}}
:I don't know what page sam is referring to, but anything about a kitchen would be speculation, as we've never actually seen it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:41, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Not that this necessarily adds anything, but I wanted to mention another instance of cooking that presumably took place in SB's house: Strong Bad made an omelette in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]]. Oh, and.. Strong Bad = Two words. Two different words. That are not one word. That are "Strong" and "Bad". {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:48, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Good point there about "bug in mouth disease". Also, Strong Bad must have kept the sour cream in the kitchen in the email "secret recipes". (And thanks for catching my repeated spelling error, too.)
Also, where did Strong Bad keep his blender prior to email #71 "2 emails" when Homestar turned it into a time machine?

I would like to point out that the previous conversation happened prior to the announcement of "Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People" where we get to take a walk through the kitchen in his house for the first time.

== Name (SBCG4AP) ==

In one of the SBCG4AP trailers Strong Bad refers to the house as The House of Strong. Given that this is an "official" TBC collaboration, the question then comes up: Have TBC ever used the name House of the Brothers Strong? If not, I believe that it's important for us to '''move''' this page to be more in line with The Chapmen's official naming. {{User:Flashfight/sig}} 02:24, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:Our name is not wrong, as it's merely a description. It's very uncommon for a residence to even ''have'' an official name, so I'm inclined to think that Strong Bad was just being Strong Bad (House of Strong being a tough-sounding name like House of Pain) and not that TBC were necessarily intending to bestow an official moniker on the place. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

== House Design ==

A drawing by Strong Bad of the exterior of Strong Bad's house is on one of the gameplay vids on IGN. It's in the vid "Email Boot." The house appears to be brown with a lighter brown roof. Seeing as SB drew Bubs Concession Stand correctly, I would say that's a pretty good example of what the house looks like... -TheDenzel (not logged in)
:Also in [http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14236672/telltale-episodic-project/images/strong-bads-cool-game-for-attractive-people-episode-1-20080415020048155.html this pic] it shows SB's house being grey. -TheDenzel

:Exactly! The article should ''totally'' say something else than "The exterior of the building has yet to be seen (...)."! The Brothers Strong live in a gray house! :D --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 20:09, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

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== Parents ==

It says they might live with their parents, but I think "Parents" are only mentioned in Strong Bad Emails "The Facts" and "Origins" and in the toon "Homestarloween Party." -Amy Whifflepoof

So... what's the problem? <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 20:00, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Between floors ==

Well, I got the following screenshot from [[Sbemail_150%3F%21%3F]] that shows the floor/ceiling between floors. I can't quite interpret it though. Crawlspace? Or is the blue thing a window? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:37, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

:Too small to ever be anything important, it looks like just the space between floors, which is usually a good foot or so thick. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:40, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

::Or could it be the true meaning of Decemberween? ;) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:17, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
[[Image:Between floors.png|500px]]

== Basement Access ==

The article says that the basement is accessed from the left of the computer room when facing the computer. However, Strong Bad entered the basement from the ''right'' of the computer room in [[sibbie]].
:No, he exits the computer right, then we see him enter the basement from the left. We don't know what happened in the cut. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:25, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

== Apartment? ==

Strong Bad may live in an apartment as he says in one of his scroll button raps:
"I keep my buttons on scroll and all the ladies in check, did you find the spare key to my apartment yet? What." 00:55, 12 July 2006 (UTC) [[User:Alexzero77|Alexzero77]]
:That song's the only mention of an apartment on the site. If there was a shred of corroborating evidence, you might be on to something, but I'd write it off as Strong Bad's boasting. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:59, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

== Morning Routine ==

Watch the email [[morning routine]]. While in the basement, Strong Bad moves '''to the right''' in order to get to his computer. Meaning there's a second unseen route upstairs. (You could probably consider [[mile]] to be a part of this, since The Cheat makes Strong Bad go through the basement.) And even though we don't know what happened between cuts, It's unlikely Strong Bad did anything with a popcorn bucket over his hand. -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]] 07:12, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

== Parents? ==

Where is it implied that the Brothers Strong still live with their parents? I don't see it anywhere. Except in [[the facts]], and in that scene, Strong Bad also said that baby Strong Sad was sleeping. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 08:09, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
::In [[Homestarloween Party]], Strong Bad said that his mom helped him with his costume. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 21:46, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
:::But it's possible to help someone with their costume and not live with them.{{User:Shwoo/sig}} 00:40, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
::::How 'bout, it's a throw away joke? As in, they did it to be funny, and they don't plan on using whatever little back story they created along with it. And Shwoo is right, even parents don't have to live with they're children in order to help them. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 00:42, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

== Window in computer room ==

If you look closely at the image of the full computer room in the article of House of the Brothers Strong, there is a window missing. There should be a window with the sycamore branch outside (like in [[cheat talk]]), right?
--[[User: Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]]

:There's also a window in [[little animal]], but they are probably running around in circles. I would assume that the window is behind the viewer's POV of [[:Image:ComputerRoomFull.PNG]], which is why we don't see it. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:13, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

== Floor plan, anyone? ==

I've already done the first floor, and I can start on the basement right away. Let me know if you're interested.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 19:47, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

== Computer Room layout. ==

If you watch the beginning of the first Strong Bad Emails DVD, he walks into the room from the left and the shag carpeting starts at the doorway, and the window, with the Sycamore outside is clearly visable. To the right we see Strong Sad peeking out of a purple room (apparently his). And in the animations extra, it shows that they may have intended to leave the hole on the right wall where Strong Bad's old computer blew him into Strong Sad's room. That change was probably never done (and the wall left solid) because Strong Bad in this scene is still using his old computer before it exploded. But it's not just a purple hallway since in the email One Step Ahead, it shows that outside of Strong Sad's room is the traditional blue walls and grey floor.

== kitchen ==

I assume that there is also a kitchen in the brother's house. In “big white face” Strongbad baked two cakes. In “secret identity” Homestar makes hamburgers in their house and has the Poopsmith and the King over. In “jibblies2” Homestar makes a sandwich at their house as well. Strongbad had to get the pasta salad from somewhere in “old comics”. Also, Strongbad needs somewhere to keep all his potate bags seen in several issues. Same goes for his Swiss Cake Rolls. The Schenectady Crispies commercial from “labor day” was filmed in an unknown kitchen. It looks like Marzipan's but without the sink or the cookie jar directly over the counter behind the table. This could have been his kitchen. He is seen in the same kitchen in “part time job” where he is hiding from Homestar for an unknown reason. (In the hrwiki file for said email it states that this is Marzipan's kitchen, but that can't be true since the sink and the jar are missing but the cupboards are correct with the table for the mystery kitchen. Putting Homestar in there doesn't make it Marzipan's since it is a known fact that Homestar frequents both her kitchen and Strongbad's house uninvited.) It just seems to me a house is incomplete without a kitchen anyway. {{unsigned|Edwardgindel|00:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC)}}
:Umm, we already know that. There's a page on it. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 00:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

OK then I don't understand. This is an article about the various rooms found in the house. Sam says that they already know there is a kitchen, but the article that should contain info about it does not include it. Is there a reason for this? {{unsigned|Edwardgindel|04:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC)}}
:I don't know what page sam is referring to, but anything about a kitchen would be speculation, as we've never actually seen it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:41, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Not that this necessarily adds anything, but I wanted to mention another instance of cooking that presumably took place in SB's house: Strong Bad made an omelette in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]]. Oh, and.. Strong Bad = Two words. Two different words. That are not one word. That are "Strong" and "Bad". {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 05:48, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Good point there about "bug in mouth disease". Also, Strong Bad must have kept the sour cream in the kitchen in the email "secret recipes". (And thanks for catching my repeated spelling error, too.)
Also, where did Strong Bad keep his blender prior to email #71 "2 emails" when Homestar turned it into a time machine?

I would like to point out that the previous conversation happened prior to the announcement of "Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People" where we get to take a walk through the kitchen in his house for the first time.

== Name (SBCG4AP) ==

In one of the SBCG4AP trailers Strong Bad refers to the house as The House of Strong. Given that this is an "official" TBC collaboration, the question then comes up: Have TBC ever used the name House of the Brothers Strong? If not, I believe that it's important for us to '''move''' this page to be more in line with The Chapmen's official naming. {{User:Flashfight/sig}} 02:24, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:Our name is not wrong, as it's merely a description. It's very uncommon for a residence to even ''have'' an official name, so I'm inclined to think that Strong Bad was just being Strong Bad (House of Strong being a tough-sounding name like House of Pain) and not that TBC were necessarily intending to bestow an official moniker on the place. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

== House Design ==

A drawing by Strong Bad of the exterior of Strong Bad's house is on one of the gameplay vids on IGN. It's in the vid "Email Boot." The house appears to be brown with a lighter brown roof. Seeing as SB drew Bubs Concession Stand correctly, I would say that's a pretty good example of what the house looks like... -TheDenzel (not logged in)
:Also in [http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/14236672/telltale-episodic-project/images/strong-bads-cool-game-for-attractive-people-episode-1-20080415020048155.html this pic] it shows SB's house being grey. -TheDenzel
:Exactly! The article should ''totally'' say something else than "The exterior of the building has yet to be seen (...)."! The Brothers Strong live in a gray house! :D

best thing

2008-05-13T19:18:09Z

WP CEO: /* Transcript */

{{sbenav|126}}
[[Image:sbemail126.png|thumb|"I'm afraid I've got some bad news, boys."]]

Strong Bad shows us the best thing he's ever seen, done or eaten: the quickly canceled pilot of {{Film|Limozeen}}: [[Limozeen: "but they're in space!"|"but they're in space!"]]

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[Gary Palaroncini]], [[Larry Palaroncini]], [[Perry Palaroncini]], [[Mary Palaroncini]], [[Teeg Dougland]], {{Film|Strong Sad}}, Hot Babe-liens, [[Mitch Overlord]], [[Bozar]], {{Film|Nebulon}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Outer Space]], Limozeen's Stage, [[Strong Bad's Basement]], Various Futuristic Places, [[The Moon]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Tuesday, March 8, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 4:08 (4:14 in the DVD version)

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Four}}

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' You got to ''e''-mail, just to stay alive! ''{types "strongbad_email.exe", begins reading}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: What's the best...</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
How you doin'? I have three quick questions... 
1. What's the best thing you've ever seen? 
2. What's the best thing you've ever done? 
3. What's the best thing you've ever eaten? 
 
Later, 
Albin J. (from Maryland)
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad doesn't read the numbers, and after saying "seen", he immediately follows with "done, eaten." He also whispers "from, from Maryland." Then he clears the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I'm doing real real ''{types "rrll rrll"}'' well Albi. Believe it or not, I've got one answer for all three questions. And that answer is...

''{Cut to an image of a video tape labeled "Limozeen cartoon" and "Don't record over for dang's sake!!!"}''

'''BACKGROUND SINGERS:''' ''{drawn out}'' VHS![[#Footnote|[1]]]

'''STRONG BAD:''' The only known copy of the failed pilot episode of the Limozeen Saturday morning cartoon shoooooooow!

''{Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' It only aired once at, like, 4 a.m. some forgotten Saturday. And guess who was already up and eating brown sugar straight from the box? That's right, Strong Sad. But then I got up and started watching TV. If not for my The Cheat-like VHS reflexes, it would have been as lost as four-armed Grimace. ''{clears screen}'' I'll let you guys see it, but please, no flash photography or video taping. It could damage the precious oils and heavy metals of this priceless piece of television history.

''{Cut to the cartoon. It opens with "Metalmation" appearing in large block letters, followed by "presents" in cursive.}''

'''SINGER:''' 
Remember those guys from that band Limozeen? 
Well, they turned their tour bus into a space machine! 
But they're still Limozeen!

'''LARRY:''' 
We're still Limozeen!

'''SINGER:''' 
But they're in space!

'''LARRY:''' 
But we're in space?!

''{Now the title screen is shown: LIMOZEEN "but they're in space!" The Limozeen members appear in animated form below. Teeg walks in from stage right.}

'''TEEG DOUGLAND:''' I'm afraid I've got some bad news, boys. You're in space!

''{One final chord of the theme song plays.}''

''{Cut to the Couch. Strong Bad is sitting on it, while Strong Sad is leaning on it from behind.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh-ho-ho! So classic!

'''STRONG SAD:''' But why are they in space? There's no reason for them to be in space!

'''STRONG BAD:''' On the contrary, my dear Fatson! There's ''every'' reason for them to be in space.

''{Title card for "ENCOUNTER AT GROUPULON 5" by A. Chimendez appears. From there, it cuts to the Limozeen members running away from a pair of flesh-colored hands, a pair of blue hands, and two magenta tentacles.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{narrating}'' So, one of their main goals is to both run away from and give backstage passes to all the hot babe-liens of the galaxy.

''{The Limozeen members run into their tour spaceship.}''

'''TEEG DOUGLAND:''' I'm afraid I've got some bad news, boys. None of the hot alien chicks from Groupulon 5 have backstage passes to tonight's show.

'''LARRY:''' Then whose midriffs are we gonna sign?

'''GARY:''' What happened to all the passes, Teeg?

'''TEEG DOUGLAND:''' Galactic Radio gave them all away. To Mitch Overlord.

''{The members of Limozeen gasp, as we cut to Mitch Overlord's lair. A rock sting of terror is heard}''

'''MITCH OVERLORD:''' That's right, Limozeen! I was the 1,685,421st caller! ''{He raises his claw-like right hand, which says MITCH!, and opens and shuts it twice.}''

''{The members of Limozeen are shown running again, this time from nothing that can be seen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{narrating}'' And sometimes the magical prankster Bozar appears and turns reality upside-down.

''{cut to Bozar. the sting is barely heard}''

'''BOZAR:''' Puzzle me twice, Limo-losers! How are you going to play tonight's show after I turn your instruments into Italian noodles? 

''{The band is greeted with "boooos" as they attempt to play a concert with their noodle-instruments anyway. A random voice in the crowd yells, "That's not music!" The word NOODLES! appears in lights behind the stage. Mary eats his noodles instead. He pauses to speak.}''

'''MARY:''' This is the best show ever, guys! ''{resumes eating}''

''{Canned laughter is heard.}''

'''LARRY:''' Mary, quit eatin' your drums!

''{Cut to the outside of the tour spaceship flying through space. Nebulon flies past.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{narrating}'' But most of all, the episode centers around the boys making sure metal stays number one throughout the galaxy.

''{Cut to spaceship interior}''

'''TEEG DOUGLAND:''' I'm afraid I've got some bad news, boys. We've been knocked off the charts in the Forbidden Zone by an alternative rock band.

'''PERRY:''' But their bassist is a girl!

'''MARY:''' And the drummer's got short hair!

'''LARRY:''' And the lead singer wears glasses!

''{Cut back to the couch. Strong Bad throws the remote at Strong Sad.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Ow! What was that for?

'''STRONG BAD:''' For you and your kind destroying metal! Chuck Taylor-wearing, low self-esteemers...

''{Cut back to the cartoon. The band is practicing as Teeg walks up to them.}''

'''TEEG DOUGLAND:''' I'm afraid I've got some bad news, boys. Our pilot episode has been canceled.

''{the sting is heard a bit louder}''

'''LARRY, GARY, PERRY, and MARY:''' What?

'''GARY:''' Oh well. I guess I won't be needing this anymore. ''{He throws his guitar offscreen.}''

''{Cut to the real Larry on Strong Bad's television, who catches the real equivalent of the guitar.}''

'''LARRY:''' Oh, thanks, Space Gary! I can't believe we got canceled! Weeeeeell, join us next time, kids! In syndication! Or maybe on DVD! ''{plays a short tune as the TV fades out. Strong Bad returns to the Lappy.}

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Whattaya think, Albi? If that's not the best thing you've ever seen, done, or eaten, then may I politely ask you to gouge out your eyes, cut out your tongue, and um, ''{hesitates}'' have all your ''{hesitates again}'' done ''{short pause}'' removed. 

''{The Paper comes down.}

===Footnote===
# The singers may also be singing "Limozeen!", or perhaps both "Limozeen!" and "VHS!" (simultaneously).

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on "brown sugar" to see a box of "[[Suge Brown]]" brown sugar, with the tagline "Don't borrow from thy neighbor" and a weight of "one whole pound".
*At the end of the email, click "eaten" to see a member of Limozeen question his hair color and size:
:'''MARY:''' How come they made me fat and have red hair?
:'''LARRY:''' Because you're the comic relief-uh!
:''{Mary burps very loudly}''

== Fun Facts ==
=== Explanations ===
*The fact that Limozeen's cartoon takes place in space for no good reason is likely a reference to several other cartoons which also took place in space for no reason, like ''[http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/ShowMainServlet/showid-5297/ The Partridge Family, 2200 A.D.]'', ''[http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/ShowMainServlet/showid-2345/ Gilligan's Planet]'', and ''[http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/ShowMainServlet/showid-7865/ Josie & the Pussycats In Outer Space]'', all of which had extremely short runs (usually only one season).
**The Limozeen cartoon is also likely a riff on [[Wikipedia:Cartoon Network Studios|Hanna-Barbera]] cartoons that featured bands who solved crimes or fought villians. In addition to ''Josie'' there was [[Wikipedia:Jabberjaw|''Jabberjaw'']] and [[Wikipedia:Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kids|''Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kids'']]. Teeg Dougland's repeated mantra of "I'm afraid I've got some bad news, boys" is a parody of band managers in such cartoons, who were often only featured as characters for plot exposition.
*Mitch Overlord declaring that "I was the one million, six hundred and eighty-five thousand, four hundred and twenty-first caller" to Galactic Radio is a take on radio promotional giveaways that require that listeners call a number and be the ''n''th caller to get through in order to win the prize.
*In the television industry, [[Wikipedia:Television syndication|syndication]] is the sale of the right to broadcast programs to multiple stations, without going through a broadcast network.
*The laugh track used in one scene is a typical element of older Hanna-Barbera cartoons featuring more realistic characters, intended to incite laughter in the same manner as a sitcom.
*The entire tape of the Limozeen cartoon includes a "VHS grain" effect, most visible during the black METALMATION intro (note how the background appears to be randomly speckled). This artifact of VHS recording results from multiple generation copies, repeated erasing/recording, and from recording in extended tape speeds.

=== Trivia ===
*Teeg Dougland is voiced by [[Mike Chapman]].

=== Remarks ===
*This email gives a good answer to Strong Bad's own question in [[different town]] when he tries to think up the Best Thing Ever, which at the time he identified as beef stew.
*Strong Bad's tape lacks the little tab that can be pushed out to prevent people taping over it, a chief concern with the cartoon tape.
**Strong Bad may have accidentally placed the label of the tape over this tab, however, as the label appears to be too long. This would mean the tape is still recordable, hence adding to his concern.
*Although elements of the Limozeen in Space cartoon such as the animation style and mention of the popularity of hair metal bands seem to suggest that it would have been aired in the '80s, Larry mentions DVDs at the end, which first hit the American market in 1997.
*When Limozeen is flying in the spaceship, the background is looping (there is even a noticeable seam in the background); a common practice in old cartoons. In similar fashion, Limozeen is often shown running away from some off-screen pursuer, using an unchanging run cycle of animation.
*Teeg's announcement that the show has been canceled is interesting from a logistical standpoint: For his line to be animated and voiced, the animators would have to have known the fact while they were animating and recording the voices.
*Mary is always seen looking into the camera, even when the rest of the characters are looking in a different direction.
*This email features a [[live action]] segment.
*Babe-liens is a [[portmanteau]].

=== Goofs ===
*Just before Strong Bad sits down at the Lappy, you see almost his entire head, but you can't see the laces on the back of his mask; usually when they show that much of his head (such as in [[crazy cartoon]]) you see those laces.
*When the space-mobile is flying at supposed hyper-speed, the stars flying by in the background are streaking the wrong way.
*When we see the TV and VCR in Strong Bad's basement, the VCR shows no sign of a tape being inside it nor of any playback. (VCRs typically have some type of counter or a "play" graphic on their display.) This could just be a flashback to the day they watched it, although if it is, there is no record graphic lit up.
*When the tape is being displayed, Strong Bad is supposedly typing (as his spoken line is seen when the Lappy is shown again). However, the typing sound effect is not heard.

=== Inside References ===
*The teleplay for Limozeen's cartoon is written by [[A. Chimendez]].
*Teeg Dougland is the name of the director of the [[Moving Very Slowly]] video on the [[strongbad_email.exe]] DVD. He is identified as the manager of the band at the NYU talk during the showing of a Limozeen coloring book 'game'.
*[[The VCR]] is still blinking from [[12:00]] and someone removed the alarm clock that [[Bubs]] duct-taped to it.
*The guitar that Space Gary tosses is the same one seen in [[Puppet Time]].
**It closely resembles a KE3 Kelly model guitar by ''[http://www.jacksonguitars.com/ Jackson]''.
**The guitar was also used in the Limozeen Easter egg in [[flashback]].
*The villain, Mitch Overlord, has a claw that is the same as the one from [[Kick The Cheat]].
*Bozar's horns look very much like Strong Bad's horns from [[3 Wishes]].

=== Real-World References ===
*As a magical, large-headed trickster, Bozar calls to mind such characters [[Wikipedia:The Great Gazoo|the Great Gazoo]] from [[Wikipedia:The Flintstones|''The Flintstones'']], but his insulting manner and fondness for transmutating objects to cause trouble make it clear that he is most strongly inspired by [[Wikipedia:Superman|Superman]] villain, [[Wikipedia:Mister Mxyzptlk|Mr. Mxyzptlk]]. His "puzzle me twice" taunt is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Riddler|Riddler]] from the [[Wikipedia:Batman (TV series)|'60s Batman TV show]], in which the villains often taunted the Dynamic Duo by mocking their names. The Riddler's catchphrase was "Riddle me this", immediately followed by an obscure clue as to what his next crime would be.
*"Metalmation" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Filmation|Filmation]] animation studio, with the logos looking very similar. Filmation was famous for churning out cookie-cutter cartoons many of which also took place in space for no good reason.
*The repeated "band being chased" segments may be a reference to a Hanna-Barbera 70's staple of stock-footage chase scenes, which appeared most prominently in [[Wikipedia:Scooby-Doo|Scooby-Doo]]. Also, this may refer to the [[Wikipedia:Beatles|Beatles]], who spent a good deal of "A Hard Day's Night"—a typical day in the life of the band—running away from adoring female fans. [[Image:evil-grimace.jpg|thumb|Four-armed Grimace]]
*"Four-armed Grimace" is a reference to the purple [[Wikipedia:McDonaldland|McDonaldland]] character. [[Wikipedia:Grimace|Grimace]] was originally named "The Evil Grimace", and he had four arms (replaced with two arms a few years later) so that he could hold many shakes at once.
*"On the contrary, my dear Fatson" is an adaptation of "Elementary, my dear Watson", a line often attributed to Sir [[Wikipedia:Arthur Conan Doyle|Arthur Conan Doyle's]] character [[Wikipedia:Sherlock Holmes|Sherlock Holmes]], though he never actually used that exact phrase in the Holmesian canon.
*The space logo of Limozeen is very similar to the logo of the Nintendo game series [[Wikipedia:Metroid|Metroid]].
*Mary asking "How come they made me fat and have red hair?" draws attention to the manipulation of characters in cartoon adaptations to clearly defined sterotypical roles. In particular, Mary's question references the cartoon [http://www.tvtome.com/RealGhostbusters/ ''The Real Ghostbusters''], where the [[Wikipedia:Dan Aykroyd|Dan Aykroyd]] character (from the ''[[Ghostbusters]]'' film) was modified into an overweight redhead.
*Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like [[Wikipedia:Sonic Youth|Sonic Youth]], [[Wikipedia:The Pixies|The Pixies]] and [[Wikipedia:The Smashing Pumpkins|the Smashing Pumpkins]] were able to have success. (The aforementioned bands actually all had female bassists.)
*The phrase "Chuck Taylor wearin'..." refers to [[Chuck Taylor All-Stars]], designed by Chuck Taylor. "Chucks" are a signature look of Grunge, Punk, and Metal that happened after 1990.
*The scene at the end, where the cartoon throws the guitar to the real-life band member, pokes fun at almost every '80s cartoon that had a (semi) famous person behind it—where the cartoon would transition/interact with the real person from off screen: Fat Albert, Alf, M.C. Hammer, Mr. T, the Harlem Globetrotters, and many others all closed the episode with the real-world people.
*"Encounter at Groupulon 5" is most likely a reference to Encounter at Farpoint (the first episode of ''[[Wikipedia:Star Trek: The Next Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]]'') and the award-winning TV series [[Wikipedia:Bablyon 5|Babylon 5]].

=== Fast Forward ===
*An episode of ''Limozeen: "but they're in space!"'' was "relegated to DVD bonus content" on [[Everything Else, Volume 3]].

== DVD Version ==
*Strong Bad starts his grand announcement about the tape's contents slightly sooner, obscuring the singers (who are even quieter and more indistinct than usual).
*A different transition is used to show the "real-life" Limozeen members becoming their animated counterparts.
*Bozar's horns are yellow rather than green.
*No laughter can be heard in response to Mary's "best show ever" line.
*Strong Bad looks to both sides before throwing [[Remote Control|the remote]] at Strong Sad.
*"And, um, done." is added before "have all your done removed."
*This version of the cartoon is also used in the podcast.
*A credits sequence is added after Larry's real-life bit (see below).
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Credits listed===
*'''LEAD ANIMATOR:''' MARK DOOR
*'''DANIMATOR:''' [[DAN]] PREDGE
*'''HEAD ANIMATOR:''' MOORFACE
*'''TOP ANIMATOR:''' ROLANDO PREDGE
*'''WORST ANIMATOR:''' [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Brett Bretterson|B. BRETTERSON]]
*'''BEST DRAW MAN:''' JON MOLLO

=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey Mike, hey Mike.

'''MIKE:''' Hi Strong Bad, hi Strong Bad.

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's the Strong Bad. The Strong Bad.

'''MIKE:''' ''The'' Strong Bad? ... So, Strong Bad, I gotta tell ya. This is my favorite email.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Really?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Wow!

'''MIKE:''' I'm really gonna enjoy this one. I'm glad to be here with you.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm glad to be here with you, Mike. You just took a shower; you smell nice.

'''MIKE:''' I actually played basketball this morning and have not showered since then.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh.

'''MIKE:''' Interestingly enough.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Wow, you mask it well!

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughing}'' Thanks. ''{pause}'' I thought it was gonna be you that—

'''STRONG BAD:''' See? I faked you out. That's, that's what it's like when you live with the Strong Bad.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughing}'' I can't imagine.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Four-armed Grimace, Mike. A relic. I have a four-armed Grimace diary, like the Grail diary, from ''Indiana Jones''.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah?

'''STRONG BAD:''' All these little pits—

'''MIKE:''' Bits of evidence?

'''STRONG BAD:''' —pits and teeses ''{rhymes with "bits and pieces"}'' of where, of where he might have been.

'''MIKE:''' You know, Strong Bad, my brother Matt and I were in a band called Grimace in high school.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Really?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, we—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Was it as good as Limozeen?

'''MIKE:''' We were never as good as Limozeen.

'''STRONG BAD:''' What I don't understand is how come the theme song is, like, this terrible banjo song with some skat band singing.

'''MIKE:''' That's the way cartoons were back then.

'''STRONG BAD:''' But they're a metal band!

'''MIKE:''' Well, you can't put metal on Saturday mornings.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look, I love Teeg's style, I gotta tell you what. That, I have, I sought out a light-blue turtleneck and some peach-colored—

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughing}'' Peach-colored-type pants.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah. With flared at the bottom for sure.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah; it's good style.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Um, does he have a problem with people remembering his name? Why is he, like, nobody else is labeled. Like, personally I have trouble telling the Limozeens apart.

'''MIKE:''' Well, it's—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look at that hot, blue alien. D'ja see her?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, I saw her hand.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hot Blues. I call her Hot Blues.

'''MIKE:''' I don't think it's 'cause—Do they ever say Teeg's name? I guess they say Teeg—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, ''somebody'' does.

'''MIKE:''' —but no one ever knows—Teeg Dougland, this is his first appearance.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, I don't know ''his'' name ''{indicating one of the Limozeens}''. What's his name? "Lead Singer Limozeen"?

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' That's Gary. That's Gary and Larry.

'''STRONG BAD:''' How do you tell 'em apart?!

'''MIKE:''' Because I—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, that guy is awesome. Mitch Overlord, I wish he was in more episodes of this show that has just one episode.

'''MIKE:''' He's labeled, too.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, ''{laughing}'' people have—I guess, I guess kids are pretty dumb. You know? So that's what I'm saying. Now that guy doesn't have a label, but you're not gonna mix him up with—Look at those disgusting horns, like, tearing, are those, those are an accident, bursting out of his brain.

'''MIKE:''' Man that bass player is really trying.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{overlapping}'' Noodles! Noodles! Noodles! Noodles! The crowd should be goin' nuts right now! Man, anytime something flashes in big lights behind the band at a show, you chant it! You know?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, I agree, I agree.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I agree too.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughing}'' Okay, you agree with yourself.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yes!

'''MIKE:''' Apparently Teeg Dougland looks exactly like me, Strong Bad. What do you think?

'''STRONG BAD:''' I don't, I don't see the resemblance.

'''MIKE:''' Me either.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I think you look kinda like that tall guy in the middle ''{one of the Limozeens}''.

'''MIKE:''' I definitely don't—that's Perry.

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's Perry. How do you know these guys—they're my favorite band, I can't tell them apart! The only one I know is the one they made be fat and have orange hair. Like, I appreciate that, that that's Ron.

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' That's Mary. Ron?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{laughing}'' Ron Limozeen.

'''MIKE:''' His name is Mary Palaroncini.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Wait, his name is Mary?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''STRONG BAD:''' There's a guy in Limozeen named Mary?!

'''MIKE:''' Yes.

''{They watch the transition to the live action.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ooh! Whoa, who's that guy?

'''MIKE:''' Live-action cut scene.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Man! See, that—it would be awesome to have the real band.

'''MIKE:''' ''{overlapping}'' Strong Bad, look behind you.

'''STRONG BAD:''' What?

'''MIKE:''' That's where we are, right there, that sound room that he's in.

'''STRONG BAD:''' That guy from Limozeen was in this sound room?

'''MIKE:''' That's right.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Man, it's almost like this is real, live, fake subtitles.

''{Mike laughs.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Right, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' That's right.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look, Brett Bretterson is the worst animator, did you know that?

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughing}'' I thought I was.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, yeah, you are. There's that Bubs, that starts runnin' at me.

'''MIKE:''' ''{still laughing}'' I made your, I made your head wiggle right here.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Good job!

'''MIKE:''' Thanks!

'''STRONG BAD:''' That is a painful operation.

=== Fun Facts ===
*The [http://www.indygear.com/props/graildiary.shtml "Grail diary"] Strong Bad mentions is from [[imdb:tt0097576|''Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade'']].
*The name of the worst animator for Limozeen's cartoon, B. Bretterson, is taken from [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]. [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Brett Bretterson|Brett Bretterson]] is an imaginary friend that [[So and So]] made up.

== External Links ==
* [[HR:sbemail126.html|watch "best thing"]]
* [[HR:sbemail126 mx.swf|view the Flash file for "best thing"]]
* [[Forum:2214|forum thread re: "best thing"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}

[[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]][[Category:Podstar Runner]]

extra plug

2008-05-13T14:15:46Z

WP CEO: /* Transcript */

{{sbenav|116}}
[[Image:sbemail116.PNG|thumb|"Nobody move! Gonna be a long week!"]]

Strong Bad shows us his awesome new [['Lectric Boots]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|The King of Town}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Club Technochocolate]] (Easter egg), [[King of Town's Castle]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' Monday, October 11, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 3:23

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Four}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Ow ow ow... Ow ow oww... Ow ow owww... Email...

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="email">Dear S to the B, 
I noticed that you always have an 
extra plug socket open under your 
desk. Isn't there something cool you 
could plug in there? 
Simcity, 
Justin Corcoran, MASS</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Awww, I ''hate'' getting these mass emails! ''{typing}'' REMOVE ME! UNSUBSCRIBE! TAKE ME OFFA LIST! ''{clears screen, continues typing}'' Well HUGE to the DORK, your timing couldn't be more perfect, as I just received my new electric boots in the mail today. Check out these features.

''{Strong Bad stops typing and produces a box of 'Lectric Boots.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No fewer than 8 lights flashing at any given time. Whisper quiet, and, uh, check out that guy dancing with that hot girl. That's gonna be ''me'' at the cloughb, and the hot girl will be The Cheat— er, I mean, an actual hot girl. ''{speaking as the guy on the box}'' Hey there, fruit pie...the magician. Wanna dance? ''{speaking as the girl on the box}'' Yes, I would like to be your girlfriend based solely on your awesome boots!

''{Strong Bad sets the box on his desk. We pull back and see that Strong Bad is wearing the electric boots, with The Cheat under the desk near the empty socket.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, The Cheat, let's do this.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises that sound like "OK!"}''

''{The Cheat plugs in the boots, causing the lights on the boots to come on and a loud, vacuum-cleaner-like humming to start. The Cheat puts his hands over his ears.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{shouting over the noise}'' Whoa! Check out those lights. They're flashing!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{questioning The Cheat noises, shouting}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{shouting}'' I said, check out the flashing lights!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{questioning The Cheat noises, shouting}''

''{The Cheat leaves the room.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{shouting}'' Hey, where are you going? Wait up!

''{Strong Bad gets up and walks to follow The Cheat, until he reaches the end of his cord.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{shouting}'' I'm gonna need an extension cord.

''{Strong Bad sits back in front of the Compy 386.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing, shouting}'' Attention all interested ladies: Please have electrical sockets installed every 5 feet before inviting me over to your apartment or dormroom. So, I guess I'm awex— ''{The power goes out.}'' SOME IS THE REASON WHY!! ''{typing, despite power outage}'' Whoa. I guess these boots suck up a lot of energy. Maybe that's what "solid state" means. I suppose I can stop typing now. ''{stops typing}'' I'm gonna need some help finishing this email without power.

''{Cut to the darkened basement. Strong Mad, Strong Sad, and The Cheat appear to be watching TV, and are laughing. Strong Bad walks in.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What are you guys watching?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Shhh!

''{Cut to the TV screen, where a picture of Andy Griffith's head is taped on. Strong Mad, Strong Sad, and The Cheat start laughing again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{offscreen}'' You guys are watching a picture of Andy Griffith's head taped to a TV?

''{Cut back to the view of the couch. Homestar walks in.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, has it started yet? I brought some popcorn! ''{He produces a popcorn bag containing a bottle of [[Mountain Dew]].}'' Dang, Strong Bad, I like your boots.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look, I'm going to need some help finishing up this email. Will somebody give me a hand?

'''STRONG MAD:''' WHEN THIS IS OVER!!!

''{Cut back to the Compy 386. We can hear that the boots are running again. Strong Sad is holding up a piece of black paper in front of the monitor, which he lowers to reveal Strong Bad's "typed" text as Strong Bad is typing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing, shouting}'' Well, whatever your name was, the boots are back in action, and so am I. I can already tell they're gonna be a hit when I wear them to da club ''{pronounced as before}'' this weekend. The ladies can't resist flashing lights and an obnoxiously loud hum! ''{stops typing}'' All right, Strong Mad! Go!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down with Strong Mad producing the sound effect. Cut back from Strong Bad's desk to see Strong Mad holding The Cheat upside-down over the Compy 386, with The Cheat holding the paper in his hands. The extra plug has been burnt. Strong Sad is holding the black piece of paper he used to obscure Strong Bad's text, and Homestar is wrapped in an extension cord leading from Strong Bad's boots elsewhere. A few seconds later, Strong Bad starts speaking}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Way to go, guys! I doubt ''anyone'' could tell the difference between a regular email and this unplugged email. Now keep holdin' it. Nobody move! Gonna be a long week!

''{A few more seconds later, Homestar starts talking.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{rhythmically}'' I really got. I really gotta pee. I really got. I really gotta pee pee. I really got. I really gotta pee.

''{Strong Sad joins Homestar.}''

'''STRONG SAD AND HOMESTAR:''' ''{rhythmically}'' I really got. I really gotta pee pee. I really got. I really gotta pee. I really got. I really gotta pee pee.

'''STRONG BAD:''' That is a disgusting song.

== Easter Eggs ==
[[Image:clubtechnochocolate.png|thumb|"All is on! Feel it, feel it, feel it, feel it!"]]
*At the end, click on either of Strong Bad's boots to see Strong Bad and The Cheat at Club Technochocolate.
:''{Strong Bad and The Cheat are at Club Technochocolate. Strong Bad dancing wearing his 'lectric boots near an outlet. The boots are making their usual loud humming noise. The Cheat is standing nearby plugging his ears with a couple of [[The Cheat's Glowsticks|glowsticks]].}''
:'''MUSIC:''' ''{background}'' All is on! Feel it, feel it, feel it, feel it! All is o—
:''{The power goes out and the Cheat unplugs his ears.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, The Cheat! Let's keep this party movin'! On to the next cloughb!
:''{Strong Bad unplugs his boots and walks offscreen.}''
*Also at the end, click on the extension cord to see what the 'Lectric Boots '''are''' plugged into.
:''{Cut to The King of Town's castle. An extension cord can be seen running from a sparking plugin out a window and into the distance. A sign has been placed near the plugin reading "auxilliary food-related thing. DO NOT UNPLUG!" The King of Town is standing nearby holding a piece of paper.}''
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' This electricity bill is ''pretendous''!

== Fun Facts ==
=== Trivia ===
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#death track|death track]]".

===Remarks===
*[[Wikipedia:Solid state (electronics)|Solid state]] refers to transistor electronics, vs. old vacuum tube or mechanical technology. In the '50s through the mid-'80s (the boots appearing to have come from the '70s), manufacturers would stamp "solid state" on their various devices, signifying that they were "state-of-the-art", tube-less electronics. These so-called "Solid State" boots apparently use a large and noisy vacuum cleaner motor, which runs contrary to the concept of solid state technology.
*In the Technochocolate Easter egg, The Cheat appears to be plugging his ears with the glowsticks, which can give us a rough estimated location of his ears beneath all that fur.
*Even though only one of Strong Bad's boots is plugged in, both boots work.
*During the unplugged email, there are burn marks around the free socket under his desk... It seems that when the boots "fused," the plug actually melted and/or caught on fire.
*Although there are burn marks around the extra plug under Strong Bad's desk after he blows the power, there are no marks around the plug at Technochocolate when he blows the power there.
*At the end, when the gang are maintaining the "unplugged e-mail", Strong Bad remarks that it is going to be a long week. It turned out to be four weeks until the next email, [[montage]].
*Viewing the Flash file shows Homestar sitting down fully on the floor, but he does not seem to have a butt, as his legs bend up into his shirt.
**This was also seen in [[flashback]].
*The King of Town's bill has the title 'Lectric bill, spelled just like Strong Bad's 'Lectric Boots.
*Strong Bad's humming sounds a bit like the opening theme to John Carpenter's [[Wikipedia:Assault on Precinct 13 (1976 film)|''Assault on Precinct 13'']].
*When Strong Bad glances at the plug before he says he needs an extension cord, the eye closer to us is smaller than the eye farther away from us, similar to [[:Image:Strongbadweirdeyes.PNG|this screenshot]].
*The back button is clickable even before it zooms out, even though there is not enough time to see and click it unless you were planning on it.

===Goofs===
*Strong Bad's boots stop making noises in the end even though the lights are flashing.
*In the Club Technochocolate scene, the Cheat's glowsticks do not actually glow - when the power goes out, they are lit the same as the surrounding area. They do seem to have a "glowing effect" around them even so.
*If you view an Easter egg and wait, Strong Bad will repeat his "long week" statement and Homestar and Strong Sad will sing the song again.
*The power cord is initially on the right boot when The Cheat first plugs it in. Then, when the boots are plugged into the extension cord the cord is on the left boot. Finally, in the Easter egg at Club Technochocolate, the cord is back on the right boot.
*In the Easter egg in the King of Town's castle hall, Strong Bad has misspelled "auxiliary" as "auxilliary" on his sign.

===Glitches===
*The contrast knob on the Compy stops working when Strong Bad addresses "all interested ladies" even though the power is still on.
*The contrast knob on the Compy is still clickable when Strong Bad holds up the box for the 'Lectric Boots.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad started to spell the word "awexome" before the power went out, a reference to the email [[monster truck]] and [[Awexome Cross]].
*"Dang, Strong Bad, I like your boots!" is a reference to the cartoon [[New Boots]].
*The King of Town's statement about his electric bill being "[[Glossary#P|pretendous]]" is a reference to the [[Fan Costume Commentary|Strong Bad Fan Costume Commentary]].
*The "[[All Is On]]" song in [[Club Technochocolate]] is from an Easter egg in [[for kids]].
*Club Technochocolate is a reference to the email [[monument]].
*The [[sound effect]] of Strong Bad's boots when he is walking is identical to that of [[Stinkoman]]'s boots in [[Under Construction]].
**The sound effect is much like metal making contact with metal even though Strong Bad is walking on carpet (and later, in [[Club Technochocolate]], plexiglass)
*The TV that had [[Wikipedia:Andy Griffith|Andy Griffith]]'s head taped to it was the [[Telebision]] from the [[Old Telebision Toons Menu]].
*The Cheat's glowsticks are references to the emails [[techno]] and [[monument]].

===Real-World References===
*The way Strong Bad pronounces 'da club' throughout the email is a reference to [[Wikipedia:50 Cent|50 Cent's]] hit single 'In Da Club', where he rounds off the 'u' in the word 'club' the same way.
*[[Wikipedia:Fruit Pie the Magician|"Fruit Pie the Magician"]] is a reference to the mascot for [[Wikipedia:Hostess|Hostess]] brand fruit pies.
*"S to the B" is an example of a common hip-hop/rap method of joining two names, words, or letters.
*Strong Bad's email song closely resembles part of [[Wikipedia:Metallica|Metallica's]] song [[Wikipedia:Fade to Black (song)|Fade to Black]] off of the [[Wikipedia:Ride the Lightning|Ride the Lightning]] album.
*Andy Griffith is an actor, known for his appearances in the television programs [[Wikipedia:The Andy Griffith Show|The Andy Griffith Show]] and [[Wikipedia:Matlock|Matlock]].

===Fast Forward===
*Rather than one, the [[montage|next email]] was released four weeks later, on November 8th.
*Lectric boots are mentioned in the Strongest Man in the the World book DVD commentary
==DVD Version==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
===Commentary Transcript===
Cast (In order of appearance): [[Jonathan Howe]], [[Ryan Sterritt]], [[Mike Chapman]]

'''JONATHAN:''' Hey, it's Jonathan, Ryan, and Mike!

'''MIKE:''' It's true.

'''RYAN:''' It is true.

'''MIKE:''' Identify yourself, Ryan.

'''RYAN:''' I'm Ryan.

'''MIKE:''' Ryan, um, does our video editing and made, he made this DVD that you're watching. And Jonathan made that game that you were probably playing on our website earlier.

'''JONATHAN:''' Directly before watching this DVD.

'''MIKE:''' That's right. And directly after. Um...

'''JONATHAN:''' SimCity.

'''MIKE:''' And so...

'''JONATHAN:''' Yeah, I made SimCity myself.

''{Everyone laughs}''

'''JONATHAN:''' With these guys. I'm from Massachusetts. Yeah, Mass!

'''MIKE:''' Where are you from, Ry?

'''RYAN:''' Uhhhhh... Little Virginia, little Florida.

'''MIKE:''' Little Columbus, Georgia. Right?

'''RYAN:''' Little, Columbus, Georgia. That's uh, interesting place.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah?

'''RYAN:''' I like your boots.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, we had some...

''{Jonathan laughs}''

'''JONATHAN:''' What is Ol' Fatty's?

'''MIKE:''' What?

'''JONATHAN:''' Ol' Fatty's!

'''RYAN:''' Hey is that from giracer?

'''MIKE:''' I don't know where that's from.

'''RYAN:''' Ol' Fatty's? And they're purring there.

'''MIKE:''' They're whisper quiet.

'''RYAN:''' I like it when you draw people like that. On your kids' books and your magazines.

'''MIKE:''' Matt drew those. Those are definitely Matt's style.

'''RYAN:''' This is about to get real loud.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, we should talk loud now, guys.

''{Everybody raises their voices}''

'''RYAN:''' Yeah.

'''JONATHAN:''' Can you hear me? What's the game of the day?

'''MIKE:''' Uhhhhhhhh...

'''RYAN:''' Death Track.

'''JONATHAN:''' Death Track.

'''MIKE:''' Death Track was a great game. It was a racing game where you had to shoot, uh, a futuristic racing game where you had to shoot other cars. Activision. Activision or Dynamix, I'm not sure which.

'''JONATHAN:''' It's weird that Activision and Electronic Arts are still around. They're like the kings!

'''MIKE:''' Activision is older than Electronic is older than Electronic, well I guess that Electronic Arts is pretty old. But Activision made Atari games in 1982.

'''RYAN:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Good for them. People got confused why he started yelling when it got dark.

'''RYAN:''' I got, I'm confused Mike.

'''MIKE:''' Well its sort of like, if you're, ummm, pulling a really heavy wagon, and then someone takes all the weight out of the wagon, you're pulling at the same, and you just start running forward.

'''JONANTHAN:''' It's like a record stopping too. It just gets loud.

'''RYAN:''' Sorry, I was listening to you, but I turned to see Andy Griffith taped to the TV. And it was a little bit strange.

'''MIKE:''' So, that is from our cousin Jim. One of the many things we've stolen from him. There was this family, he claimed, that uh, that lived near him that didn't have a working TV and just taped a picture of Andy Griffith's head to the TV. Yet another example of Matt and I just stealing bits of our friends' and relatives' everyday lives.

'''JONATHAN:''' What about Lincoln version?

'''MIKE:''' Lincoln version we thought of.

'''RYAN:''' It's a good bit. You gotta, gotta, a lot of good bits.

'''MIKE:''' Do a bit Ryan. Hurry up.

'''RYAN:''' How about them boots, eh? They're flashin, and stuff...

'''MIKE:''' That's a good bit. How long does this thing go on for before the email ends?

'''JONATHAN:''' I think for a while. This is a waiting Easter.

'''MIKE:''' Ohhhh, so we, uhh, get to hear, uhhh, the pee song?

'''JONATHAN:''' Oh yes, right. It's going to come up. People liked the pee song.

'''MIKE:''' My mom liked the pee song. I think that she was ashamed, that she really thought it was funny. But she, you know...

'''RYAN:''' That's not something you really want to admit to a friend.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, she was a little embarrassed.

'''RYAN:''' So did you have those boots, growing up?

'''MIKE:''' I still got them! I'm wearing them right now Ryan!

'''JONATHAN:''' Remember moon boots?

'''MIKE:''' Yes, I do remember moon boots.

'''RYAN:''' They had, like, two inches or so of plastic at the bottom. You feel like you're in space.

'''MIKE:''' I agree.

'''JONATHAN:''' I bet there are remixes of that floating around.

'''MIKE''': I want to remix it.

===Fun Facts===
*[[Wikipedia:Activision|Activision]] was founded in 1979 and first made games for the [[Atari 2600]]. It is indeed older than [[Wikipedia:Electronic Arts|Electronic Arts]], which was founded in 1982 and first made games for the [[Wikipedia:Atari 800|Atari 800]]. [[Wikipedia:Dynamix|Dynamix]] was founded in the early 1980s and developed many of the games seen in Strong Bad's [[Floppy Disk Container]] including Deathtrack.

== External Links ==
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{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]

crying

2008-05-13T12:29:26Z

WP CEO: /* Remarks */

{{sbenav|109}}
[[Image:lilbrudder.png|thumb|"Don't cry for me, The Cheatentina..."]]

DJ Solerous asks Strong Bad if he had ever made Homestar cry. All weep when they see Li'l Brudder.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[Li'l Brudder]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, [[Tendafoot]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' Monday, July 26, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 3:26

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Four}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Rapping}'' I'm not gonna sing an email song this week e—''{realizes mistake, talking}'' Oh. Never mind.

''{Pulls up email}'' ''{Reading}''

<blockquote class="email">YO Yo Strongbad, 
Hey Strongbad I was wondering if you 
have ever made Homestar cry. 
DJ Solerous Australia</blockquote>

''{After "Hey Strongbad" he stops mid-sentence and says: "Well, which is it? 'Yo yo' or 'Hey' Strong Bad? I mean, the outcome of the rest of this whole email hinges on the decision made—" Without skipping a beat, as if it no longer matters, he finishes reading the email.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Typing}'' Whoa! ''THE'' DJ Solerous? What an honor! I saw you spin in a warehouse in Canberra ''{He pronounces it as can-BEAR-uh.}'' a few years back! Uh, no wait. I lied. I, nor anyone else, have ever heard of DJ Smoldyface.

''{clears screen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So, have I ever made Homestar cry? Uh, yes. Yes, I have. A lot. I can pretty much make anybody cry just by showing them this drawing I invented of a one-legged puppy named "Li'l Brudder."

''{Strong Bad holds up a picture of a one-legged puppy saying "I can make it on my own."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{laughing}'' I mean, it cracks me up, but Homestar just falls apart when he sees him. A-like so... ''{Gets up and exits.}''

''{Cut to The Field. Homestar is standing there, looking angrily offscreen right. Enter Strong Bad.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Yeah, you ''stay'' over there.

'''STRONG BAD''': Hey, Homestar. I've got something for you.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Thanks, Strong Bad! What is it what is it what is it what is it what is it?

'''STRONG BAD''': It's just this drawing I made...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': ''{uneasy}'' Oh, no. Don't do it. You know the storm that will unleash!

'''STRONG BAD''': No! I think you'll like it!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': ''{Edge of tears}'' Strong Bad, no! I can't handle it!

'''STRONG BAD''': Ta-daaah! ''{Holds the Li'l Brudder drawing in front of his face.}''

''{Homestar breaks down crying, falls to his knees}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': No-ho-hooo... LIDD'L BRUDDOR! That little guy... He's got the heart of a champion! You're gonna make it, Li'l Brudder! You just keep scrapin' along!

''{Strong Bad looks on in disbelief; Homestar is lying on the ground, sobbing hysterically and kicking at the air}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Li'l Brudder... I... ''I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING WITH MY LIFE!'' I-I'm thinking of getting into male modeling—o-or maybe high finance... I JUST DON'T KNOW!!

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{As Li'l Brudder, shaking the drawing like a crude hand puppet.}'' I'm gonna be all right, Homestar.''{Homestar is heard sobbing hysterically}'' I can make it on my own!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': ''{sobs}'' It's like I said—the heart of a champion!

''{Enter the Cheat, from offscreen left.}''

'''THE CHEAT''': ''{The Cheat noises}''

''{Strong Bad turns to The Cheat and does his Li'l Brudder act.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Hey, The Cheat, I'm gonna be a quarterback when I grow up! I'm gonna throw for 2,000 yards! ''{The Cheat begins sobbing.}'' Don't cry for me, The Cheat-entina...

''{Enter Strong Sad, his eyes red around the edges and all watery, apparently trying not to cry.}''

'''STRONG SAD''': Oh, Strong Bad, is Li'l Brudder named after me? Do you think of ''me'' as a... one-legged puppy?

'''STRONG BAD''': Uhh, no. I think of you as a two-legged elephant...named "Tendafoot." ''{Pronounces name as "Tenderfoot."}''

''{He holds up a picture of this, with "Tendafoot" saying "I'm tops!"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Speaking as Tendafoot/Strong Sad}'' I could power a small city with my whining!

'''STRONG SAD''': ''{dejected}'' I probably could.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': ''{still sobbing}'' Oh-h-h-h, Tendafoot, can you tell me how to get the most out of life?

''{Cut to Compy 386. Strong Bad enters and sits down.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{typing}'' There ya go. Homestar crying. Not a problem. I bet all a ya'lls [sic] are prob'ly crying all over the place. That Li'l Brudder sure knows how to tug at your heartstrings. ''{begins to choke up as he speaks}'' He's just such a trooper.  Got such a strong... one leg. ''{recovers}'' Um, yeah. I think I've got a ''{hesitates}'' food in the oven. ''{begins to choke up again}'' I gotta go.

''{Strong Bad gets up and hurries out.}''

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on "YO Yo" to see a Strong Bad yo-yo.
*Click on "''The'' DJ Solerous" to see a flyer for a DJ event.
<blockquote>Perfectly Legal WAREHOUSE RAVE 
featuring: 
DJ Solerous 
DJ Stank 
and DJ from Roseanne 
Don't tell the cops!!</blockquote>
*Click on "Homestar crying" at the end to see more of him crying:
:''{Homestar is still bawling.}''
:'''HOMESTAR''': Ohh, Tendafoot! Can you tell me what to do with myself? I feel like I'm at a crossroads, and there's like, a Denny's on one corner, and an IHOP on the other!
:''{Homestar is kneeling over the Tendafoot drawing.}''
:'''HOMESTAR''': Can you give me some sound financial advice?
:''{Homestar is lying on the ground again.}''
:'''HOMESTAR''': Tendafoot, can you help advise me on my future?
*Click on "Li'l Brudder" at the end to see Li'l Brudder falling off his one leg.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*The summary on the [[Podstar Runner]] RSS feed for this video says "Strong Bad invents a 1-legged puppy and the tears flow."
*This toon has [[Nondescript Nouns]] ("Food").

===Remarks===
* The tears flying off Homestar's face are the same as in [[A Jorb Well Done]]. In A Jorb Well Done, the water coming off his face is sweat.
* This is the only time to date that Strong Sad cries.
* This is the first email to come from Australia.
* Strong Bad must be an extremely talented typist to be able to quickly type an entire sentence, complete with punctuation and capital letters, with only one hand as he holds up Li'l Brudder's picture with the other...while wearing boxing gloves.
**This is in contrast to the other instance of typing with a skewed view for the previous email [[pom pom]], where he failed to type coherently when he couldn't see due to his blindfold. (Unless he did so on purpose as a joke - see the pom pom article's [[pom pom#Remarks|Remarks]].)
*The pieces of notebook paper are unusually rigid. Even when Strong Bad is holding the Lil' Brudder picture from the bottom it still stands straight up.
*When Homestar is rolling on the ground, it seems his shading stays on one side of his body.
*Homestar's height is different in this email, as he's proportionate to Strong Bad, whereas in most other toons and emails, he's taller than Strong Bad.
*Although Strong Bad is known to be a stickler for proper grammar, in the sentence "I, nor anyone else, have ever heard of DJ Smoldyface," he misuses the conjunction nor by failing to negate either of the elements it connects, and he also fails to make the subject(s) and verb agree. The sentence should read "Neither I, nor anyone else, has ever heard of DJ Smoldyface."

===Inside References===
*The DJ flyer is a reference to an Easter egg in [[techno]] for The Cheat's light-switch rave.
*"I can make it on my own" might be a reference to the Easter egg in [[invisibility]], where the tossed-out [[Tandy 400]] says it.
*Li'l Brudder and Tendafoot are both [[Severed Body Parts|missing body parts]].
*When Li'l Brudder's leg wobbles, it makes the same sound that Homsar makes when he walks.

===Real-World References===
*On the DJ flyer, "DJ from Roseanne" is a reference to the television show "[[IMDB:tt0094540|Roseanne]]". Actor [[IMDB:nm0279896|Michael Fishman]] played the role of Roseanne's son D. J. Conner.
*"Don't cry for me, the Cheatentina" is a reference to the song "[[Wikipedia:Don't Cry For Me, Argentina|Don't Cry For Me, Argentina]]" from [[Wikipedia:Andrew Lloyd Webber|Andrew Lloyd Webber's]] musical "[[Wikipedia:Evita|Evita]]".
*"Tendafoot" is possibly a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Boy Scouts of America|Boy Scouts']] rank of "[[Wikipedia:List of BSA rank requirements#Tenderfoot Scout|Tenderfoot]]", which is the first rank a Scout can achieve.
*[[Wikipedia:Canberra|Canberra]] is Australia's capital city. Most Australians pronounce the city's name "CAM-bruh." A minority pronounce it "CAN-buh-ruh" and a few use "can-BEAR-uh," though the latter is generally considered incorrect. The varying pronunciation is to some extent a class-based difference.
*[[Wikipedia:IHOP (restaurant)|IHOP]] and [[Wikipedia:Denny's|Denny's]] are restaurant chains that both specialize in breakfast items.

===Fast Forward===
*Li'l Brudder and Tendafoot later star in their own TV show, ''[[The Li'l Brudder Show]]''.
*Homestar mentions that he's considering male modeling while talking to Li'l Brudder. He later models for the front page of "[[Stupid Coincidence Magazine]]" in the e-mail [[modeling]].
*Strong Bad makes Homestar cry again in an Easter egg in [[long pants]], though only by accident.

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
===Commentary Transcript===
'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]]

'''MIKE:''' An email. Hi, guys!

'''MATT:''' Strong Bad— You just did that.

'''MIKE:''' Ummmm, gah, start us over. Start us over. No, let's keep going. Let's keep going. Let's keep going.

'''MATT:''' Are you sure?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Okay.

'''MIKE:''' All I can think to do is, like, start saying the email.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Just recite the lines along with it.

'''MATT:''' Mmmhmm.

'''MIKE:''' Don't we, don't you mispronounce uh...

'''MATT:''' Canberra?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' How are you supposed to say it?

'''MIKE:''' I dunno. I think its supposed to be... Canberra, or something.

'''MATT:''' Oh. Have we gotten complaints?

'''MIKE:''' I think there was, I think in one of the message boards, There was a...

'''MATT:''' I can't imagine Strong Bad being a stickler for, uh...

'''MIKE:''' Pronouncing foreign cities.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Even though he is a stickler about a lot of other things. So this is where Little Brudder came from.

'''MIKE:''' That's right. He's since gone on to uhh, have his own theme song. Who do you think Homestar was talking to?

'''MATT:''' I think he was talking to that pile of, uh, Swiss Cake Rolls that he's friends with.

'''MIKE:''' Those things are bad for you!

'''MATT:''' They got in a fight and he told them to stay over there. Ober dere. Did you draw those new feet for this one, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' No, that was actually for the Cheat Commandos.

'''MATT:''' Oh, right.

'''MIKE:''' And Homestar's kneeling down, playing Cheat Commandos in the commercial.

'''MATT:''' I think the drool, the puddle of drool, is really what does it with Little Brudder.

'''MIKE:''' Makes it what?

'''MATT:''' Even sadder. More pathetic.

'''MIKE:''' Those tears, that Homestar has, were originally sweat from, uh, an old cartoon.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Jumping Jacks cartoon.

'''MATT:''' That's been around forever, and unchanged, mostly.

'''MIKE:''' Yes, not very good.

'''MATT:''' No, they're not.

'''MIKE:''' They probably, they probably need to be updated.

'''MATT:''' They don't look at it.

'''MIKE:''' ''{noises, sounds like "thang, thang, thang"}''

'''MIKE:''' I always wondered about the abbreviation, or the shortening of little to li'l, and where the apostrophe goes. Because there technically should be an apostrophe after both, before and after the l.

'''MATT:''' Well, right, because there's an e at the end of...

'''MIKE:''' 'Cause sometimes I do lil', and sometimes I do li'l.

'''MATT:''' It's back when they spelled little litel.

'''MIKE:''' Yes, it's replacing all of those. One of the few times when Strong Sad, these days, is actually sad. He has really not been sad, in a long time.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, he's, yeah, it's true. We, our website sucks now.

'''MIKE:''' No, it's better. He became more um... developed. He used to just say things like, "We die a little more every day," or something like that.

'''MATT:''' "Each day we die a little more," Mike?

'''MIKE:''' Ha! Well, my impression was pretty good. Look at his extensive use of apostrophes, right there.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Prob'ly, and y'alls.

'''MATT:''' Um...

'''MIKE:''' He used an apostrophe there, in "I've." This is the apostrophe email.

=== Fun Facts ===
*[[The Brothers Chaps]] make reference to the [[swiss cake rolls]] from [[invisibility]].

== External Links ==
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pom pom

2008-05-13T12:23:09Z

WP CEO: /* Remarks */

{{sbenav|108}}

[[Image:Sbemail108.png|thumb|Led Zeppelin?]]

{{aboutemail}} {{forcharacter|Pom Pom}}

Kevin asks about what would happen if you poked Pom Pom with a pin. Strong Bad experiments with dangerous conditions.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, [[Viklas]] (Easter egg), [[Monkey D]] (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' Monday, July 19, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 2:25

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Four}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Oh, I'm an e-mail gambler... that means I play cards with e-mails. ''{He pulls up the e-mail.}'' Full house.

<blockquote class="email">Dear Strongbad, 
 
What would happen if you poked 
Pom-Pom with a pin? Is that why I 
haven't seen him around in a while? 
 
Kevin 
OH</blockquote>

''{He pronounces "OH" as the word "oh!"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Oh! Kevin. You scared me! I dunno. I guess he would pop or explode depending on whether he's filled with helium or hydrogen. And also depending on if he's on fire at time of poke. This is sounding pretty good. ''{clears screen}'' Poking Pom Pom with a pin while he's on fire! Let's see, how can we raise the stakes a little bit? Ooh! I'll be blindfolded! Truly this will be my greatest feat! ''{He puts on a blindfold with a rayed sun motif.}'' All right. I'm ready to go. ''{Types as "aligrt u.ln reay tui gi"}''

''{He leaves the computer. Cut to a field where Coach Z and Homestar Runner are standing.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Um, I think it was dot-egg or dot-muffin or something.

'''COACH Z''': You sure it wasn't dot-com? ''{pronounced 'kem' due to his accent}'' Or dot-org?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': No, I'm pretty sure it was dot-egg.

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{offscreen}'' All right, Hindenburg.

''{He enters, still wearing the blindfold and brandishing a pin and the BMW lighter.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Where you at?

'''COACH Z''': ''{He jumps out of the way.}'' Whoa! Hey there! Careful with those!

'''STRONG BAD''': Pom Pom? Is that you?

''{He begins to poke Homestar in the chin with the pin, which makes a little high-pitched "poink" noise each time.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Yeah, it's me.

'''STRONG BAD''': ''{still poking}'' Homestar?!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Yeah, it's me. ''{Light pink dots begin to appear on Homestar's face}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Look, I'm trying to find Pom Pom. You know where he is?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': I think he's over at Bubs's, filming his documentary.

'''STRONG BAD''': All right, thanks.

''{He stops poking and walks off.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': ''{assuming a teenager's breaking voice and slightly swaying}'' Hey, Coach! Check me out! I've got bad zits!

''{Cut to Bubs' Concession Stand, where The Poopsmith is wearing headphones and holding a boom mic over Bubs's head and Pom Pom is filming Bubs at his place behind the counter.}''

'''BUBS''': And that's how I almost died the fifteenth time.

''{Bubs, Pom Pom and The Poopsmith turn to look at Strong Bad as he enters.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': All right, Led Zeppelin! Let's get this settled once and for all!

''{Strong Bad jumps in the direction of the concession stand, but smashes his face against the wall.}''

'''BUBS''': That'll be five dollars! ''{He puts up a sign reading "Face Mashings $5."}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Ugh! ''{He shakes his head.}'' That's cool. I'm cool. Here I go again! Urah!

''{He jumps up and runs toward Pom Pom, who leaps into the air. He runs underneath Pom Pom and skids to a halt next to where he was standing. Pom Pom lands gracefully behind him with an angry expression.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Pom Pom, is that yo—

''{Pom Pom kicks him into the air and 'juggles' him through several strikes-much like a fighting game-, making combo signs appear after his fourth, fifth and sixth strikes. He then finishes him off with a kick, sending him flying. A "1-up" sign appears, along with the ''Super Mario Bros.'' "1-up" noise.}''

'''BUBS''': That'll be ten dollars! ''{He puts up a sign reading "Severe Pummelings $10."}''

''{Cut to the Compy room, where Strong Bad's reply is still on the screen. Strong Bad plummets through the roof, landing on his stool. He removes the blindfold.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Ugh! ''{typing}'' So, since I was blindfolded, I didn't really get a clear view of what happened. But I'm pretty sure I didn't get the everloving snot beat out of me and that Pom Pom exploded in a big fiery ball that was visible from space. Poor guy... I feel kind of sorry for him. I might even miss him a little bit. Well, it had to be done in the name of science. Or, more accurately, because some kid e-mailed me and told me to. ''{said in a childishly angered manner}'' I hope you're happy, Kevin!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*After The Paper comes down, click on "Poor guy" to see a letter from Strong Bad to [[General and Fraulein Pom Pom|Pom Pom's parents]].
:''{Some sad music starts playing and a sheet of paper appears on the screen. As writing appears, Strong Bad reads it aloud, his voice cracking as he gets sadder.}''
<blockquote>Dear General and Fraulein Pom Pom, 
it is with a heavy heart that i inform you that your 
son recently exploded in a big, fiery ball that was visible 
from space. i would also like to add that in no way did 
he beat any of the everloving snot out of me. 
Sequentially, 
Strong Bad</blockquote>

*After The Paper comes down, click on "e-mailed" to see an email game between Bubs and Strong Bad.
:''{Cut to a top-down view of a green table with some poker chips on it.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, read 'em and weep, boys! Pair of Abdis and a Viklas! ''{He throws cards onto the table, two of which bear a capital A, and one of which shows the Swedish flag.}''
:'''BUBS:''' Oh, man! Alls I got is a lousy MonkeyDude! ''{He throws down a card depicting Monkey D.}''

== Fun Facts ==

===Remarks===
*In the letter to Pom Pom's parents, [[The Brothers Chaps]] did not modify the letter "q" (as they normally do) from how it actually appears in AhnbergHand, the [[font]] they usually use for Strong Bad's handwriting.
*After Strong Bad faceplants himself against the wall, the lighter goes out and is not re-lit.
*Strong Bad exposes himself as a less-than-expert typist in this email. After "raising the stakes" and donning a blindfold, he cannot type. An expert touch-typist would have no problem typing in this situation.
**On the other hand, it is possible that Strong Bad does this ''on purpose'' as a joke, considering that the norm of the Strong Bad Emails is that Strong Bad types at expert-level speeds without looking at his hands (and sometimes doing the same thing without even having two hands to type with - see following email [[crying]] for an example).
*Supposing the denizens of the Isle of Pom use the same linguistic conventions as Germany, Strong Bad's use of ''Fräulein'' to refer to Pom Pom's mother is technically incorrect: instead he should be using ''Frau''. In German the word ''Frau'' ("woman") is used when addressing or referring to married women, like ''Mrs.'' in English, while ''Fräulein'' ("young woman") is used for younger, unmarried women, like ''Miss'' in English. As it is, the letter sounds like it is actually addressed to Pom Pom's father and sister, rather than to both of his parents.
**Additionally, using ''Fräulein'' is considered politically incorrect in Germany these days, and today both married and unmarried women are all addressed as ''Frau''.
*The sizing between Strong Bad and Homestar seems to be distorted in this email. Strong Bad's head is much larger when seen poking Homestar, contrasted to [[long pants]].

===Goofs===
*In the scene where Strong Bad attempts to pop Pom Pom near [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], he is holding the [[BMW Lighter]], but the BMW logo is backwards on it.
*Somewhere between Strong Bad's first and second attempts to poke Pom Pom, the Poopsmith disappears without a trace, for no apparent reason.
*In the letter to Pom Pom's parents, Strong Bad does not properly spell ''Fräulein'' as he omits the [[Wikipedia:Umlaut|umlaut]] over the "a." In the case of "au" diphthongs in German, the absence or presence of an umlaut over the "a" determines its pronunciation between "ow" and "oy" (as spoken by Strong Bad) respectively.
*When Strong Bad is falling back into the Computer Room, there is no reflection of any part of his body on the Compy's screen until he lands. Also note that there are no laces on the back of his head.
* When Pom Pom hits Strong Bad the first time, his BMW lighter flies away but his pin disappears.
*When Strong Bad pokes Homestar Runner on the chin, he ends up with 5 pink marks, but when the camera zooms out he has 8 marks.
* Also, when Strong Bad pokes Homestar, he seems to be poking in the same spot, yet the marks are much more spread out.
*Again when Strong Bad pokes Homestar, he is poked eleven times, when he is shown having five marks and later eight marks.

===Inside References===
*In the poker game, Strong Bad has two [[Abdi LaRue|Abdis]] and a [[Swedish Flag|Viklas]] card which are references to emails [[some kinda robot]] and [[little questions]].
*Bubs's "MonkeyDude" card has a picture of [[Monkey D]]. Monkeydude himself came from [[crazy cartoon]].
*The blindfold Strong Bad wears has the same design as Pom Pom's headband in the [[Theme Song Video]]. ''{Also see Real-World References.}''
*The music that accompanies Strong Bad's letter of consolation is from [[2 years]] and [[A Decemberween Pageant]].
*Pom Pom directing a documentary may be a reference to [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], where he dressed as controversial documentarian Michael Moore.
*When Pom Pom kicks Strong Bad getting a 1-up, the way he kicks him is similar to the way Homestar kicks The Cheat in [[Strongest Man in the World]].
*This is an instance of [[Strong Bad getting beaten up]].

===Real-World References===
*Pom Pom's Fighting style is similar to Kirby's fighting style in [[Wikipedia:Super Smash Bros. Melee|Super Smash Bros. Melee,]] with combo and smash attacks. [[Image:Pom Pom Attack.PNG|thumb|"That'll be ten dollars!"]]
*When Pom Pom beats up Strong Bad, you can hear sound effects from the [[Wikipedia:Super Mario Bros.|''Super Mario Bros.'']] [[Nintendo|NES]] game, as is his scoring a [[Wikipedia:1-up|1-up]] after hitting Strong Bad several times (however, it usually takes 8 hits, not 7). The [[Wikipedia:Combo (fighting)|"Combo"]] sign is also a reference to the many fighting games that feature them.
*The rayed sun on Strong Bad's blindfold is from the military (especially pre-WWII) version of the [[Wikipedia:Flag of Japan#Military|Japanese flag]]. Its use here may be inspired by the 1984 film [http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0087538/ The Karate Kid], in which Ralph Macchio's character wore a vaguely similar bandana. Or it may simply allude to the Japanese custom of donning a bandana before beginning a difficult or important task. (Or maybe it was just the closest thing to a blindfold [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] had lying around among his props. See Inside References.)
*A [[Wikipedia:Full house (poker)|"full house,"]] as Strong Bad says in the opening song, is a poker hand of three cards of one value and two cards of another (ie, 3 Kings and 2 Tens would constitute a full house).
*The email song is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Kenny Rogers|Kenny Rogers]] song (and movie) [[Wikipedia:The Gambler (music)|The Gambler]].
*[[Wikipedia:Led Zeppelin|Led Zeppelin]] was a '70s British band noted for their innovative, influential approach to heavy blues-rock.
*[[Wikipedia:Hindenburg disaster|The ''Hindenburg'']] was a German Zeppelin that exploded and burned on May 6, 1937.
**A famous picture of the Hindenburg disaster was used as the cover to Led Zeppelin's [[Wikipedia:Led Zeppelin (album)|first album]].

===Fast Forward===
* Strong Bad falls through the roof again in [[keep cool]].
* Pom Pom again shows his martial arts prowess in [[Summer Short Shorts]]
* Homestar references a .[[egg]] domain in [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]]

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
===Commentary Transcript===

('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Ryan Sterritt]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' All right. No introductions this time, guys. We're just gonna do it.

'''RYAN:''' Let's go!

'''MATT:''' All right.

'''RYAN:''' On the spot. What email are we doing here?

'''MATT:''' Uh, this is pom pom.

'''RYAN:''' All right.

'''MATT:''' And he just sang his little song about being the email gambler.

'''RYAN:''' Ohh, is that, uh—

'''MATT:''' Like ''{simultaneously with Ryan}'' Kenny Rogers Roasters.

'''RYAN:''' I used to have the Kenny Rogers' record of the Gambler soundtrack.

'''MATT:''' Oh, nice.

'''RYAN:''' And I thought, as a child, that if you put it on the record you'd be able to watch the movie.

'''MATT:''' ''{high-pitched}'' What?

'''RYAN:''' I didn't know that the soundtrack was not the movie and—

'''MATT:''' Wow.

'''RYAN:''' I was—

'''MATT:''' How did you think— Where did you think the movie was gonna appear?

'''RYAN:''' ''{embarrassed}'' I don't know. I was just a visionary waiting for laserdisc.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, I guess so.

'''RYAN:''' Anyway. I met Kenny Rogers at a sushi place once.

'''MATT:''' Did you? Where at?

'''MIKE:''' He wasn't eating at his own chicken venue?

'''RYAN:''' No. He and his whole family were there so we got him some sake and he came over and met us.

'''MATT:''' Speaking of sake, Strong Bad is wearing a Japanese headband with the rising sun.

''{Matt and Ryan laugh}''

'''RYAN:''' What?

'''MATT:''' I think it was karma.

'''RYAN:''' Karma D?

'''MATT:''' Um—

'''RYAN:''' Oh.

'''MATT:''' What do you think those guys were talking about just then? Dot com or dot egg? Dot Muffin?

'''RYAN:''' My favorite movement, er my favorite moment, you know, where you're always picking up the characters in some like, nonsensical—

'''MATT:''' Right.

'''RYAN:''' —conversation is when, when he goes, "And you ''stay'' over there."

'''MATT:''' That's right. I think we were discussing on this commentary for that one who exactly he's talking to.

'''RYAN:''' I like The Poopsmith holding the—

'''MATT:''' I would like...we should make that documentary someday.

'''RYAN:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Or, just like show that whole documentary about Bubs I guess?

'''RYAN:''' ''{laughs}'' He's cool.

'''MATT:''' I did some extra special animation on the little backstraps of his headband there. I don't remember—

'''RYAN:''' Yeah, Mike probably—

'''MATT:''' This part was really fun to animate.

'''RYAN:''' I like the noises. Angry Pom Pom face rules, too.

'''MATT:''' Oh. He came right through the ceiling.

'''RYAN:''' That made the hole that, um, that three-foot hole or whatever?

'''MATT:''' Oh, well that was in the ceiling, though.

'''RYAN:''' Now I'm confused—

'''MATT:''' He came through the ceiling.

'''RYAN:''' Oh yeah.

'''MATT:''' He didn't shoot up through the floor.

'''RYAN:''' See, there's a lot of holes—

'''MATT:''' There's a lot of holes in Strong Bad's—

'''RYAN:''' Serious falling hazard.

'''MATT:''' It's an old, rotted-up house. Just with my nice carpet on top of it.

'''RYAN:''' So, Pom Pom fighting game coming soon?

'''MATT:''' Yeah, exactly. It makes me wanna play a side-scrolling Pom Pom street fighter—

'''RYAN:''' Pom Fighter. Double—

'''MATT:''' Pom Freaks.

'''RYAN:''' Get it? Double Pom?

== External Links ==
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Talk:winter pool

2008-02-04T13:47:32Z

WP CEO: /* Frog Eggs */

== How exactly are they freed? ==
Sooo, does the KOT poop them out? Is it safe to assume that? - SCCakes
:considering the color of the gunk on strong bad at the end, i say no. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 20:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's one of those things best left to the viewer's imagination. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:53, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I'm fairly certain there's a reason the TBC and Strong BAd failed to explain what happened in detail....--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 20:59, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::::I just figured that he drank up the jello and they were left behind. I guessed that the 'sensation' that Strong Bad felt was the jello around him being sucked up. --{{User:GardenBoy/sig}} 01:26, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::I originally thought that too, but upon reading other peoples' thoughts, the ... ingestion does seem likely. but, could even the KOT "eat" the poopsmith?? -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 21:59, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::Given that anything said here is pure speculation, i'd say that this is more forum-style. So, yeah. The forum is over there. Have fun. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:05, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

== Death!??!?! ==

Is this the end of Pom Pom?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? -Alex H.
:Well, if Homestar escaped the [[Horrible Painting]] in [[Jibblies 2]], I'm sure Pom Pom can escape the vast emptiness of space. - [[User:OkayGraphics|OkayGraphics]] 14:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::Homestar also escaped the water cooler... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:36, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::And, in the most glaringly similar situation, Strong Mad came back from space in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand|MLS]]; and before the end of the 'toon even — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 15:14, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::You do recall the [[Late Nite JengaJam Interview - 4 Oct 2007|
recent interview]] where they were asked what character they would kill off, though, and they decided it might be Pom Pom. Not saying this is what they are doing, but if they do that's likely the source of the idea. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:58, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

== Nebulon first times ==

Thisis the first time we actually see Nebulon in a toon or sbemail, right? -Ein Poltergeist (not a dumptruck)
:If you don't count when he was [[PBTC]], then yes. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 14:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::i've added a remark for this. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 21:02, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:::'Cept for his debut: [[Main Page 1]]. How's that count? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:03, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::::well, it's still his first appearance in a cartoon/sbemail, so i don't think we should worry about his Main Page appearance. at least not with how i worded the remark. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 21:10, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

== Mention where Red Angelo comes from ==

Nobody has put this in yet, but, the Red Angelo and the other kids names commented on come from the urban legend of kids being named Orangejello and Lemonjello.

http://www.snopes.com/racial/language/names.asp

:I volunteer in a NBICU and I am sorry to say that there are actually people who have named their children this. [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 18:31, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::I know for a fact that I live about 10 miles away from Lemonjello and Orangejello. [[User:Kevin G. Dannerson|Kevin G. Dannerson]] 19:07, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:This is claimed as fact in the book Freakonomics, so I put it in with a reference. I think it's pretty clear as a reference to the event itself, though whether or not they actually got it from Freakonomics is uncertain. Keep in mind, though, it's a recent bestseller that sold three million copies, so it's a likely source. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:20, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

::This story has been around waaay longer than Freakonomics. I heard it when I was a kid in the 80's. The Freakonomics text is very unlikely to be the source; why would the Chaps brothers mention another very common urban legend (the headlights flashed at a gangster car) at the same time unless they were referring to common urban legends.

:::Good point. I entered that just before I read the Snopes story about headlights, which I'd never heard before. Makes more sense now; Freakonomics was probably passing it along without knowing whether it was true or not just like everyone else. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:53, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

== Is this the first time the King of Town was actually USEFUL? ==

In Strong Bad's perspective, at least.-Thnikkafan
:This statement is purely speculation. Some would agree, while some would say he has been useful before.--{{User:GardenBoy/sig}} 01:29, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

==New Animations==

two notable points.
1) as someone put somewhere in Fun Facts, bubs' arms are animated like coach z's were in [[Trogday 08]]. BUT!! they were already animated like this in [[nightlife]] and [[Happy Dethemberween]].
2) we've never, NEVER seen strong bad's mouth do what it's doing at the end of the email.
somebody should fit these into the remarks
--[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 15:39, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
: all i know, is that whoever wrote that fun fact failed to use english grammar rules or something. I read it 4 or 5 times and only have a guess as to what it means -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 17:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::i see what you mean. i didn't read it carefully the first time. well, since i now have time, i guess i'll just handle this bit myself. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 20:27, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
actually, i move that we no longer bother with mentioning the new animation style for bubs' arms, if not including this sbemail, than from now on. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 20:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:I agree. There's no point in mentioning it every time. --[[User:Foolster41|Foolster41]] 20:55, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

== Space station ==

At first I thought the space station in the space background was a copy of the one from [[Wikipedia:2001: A Space Odyssey (film)|2001: A Space Odyssey]]. Then I looked up some images I realized that the original was a double wheel and not really that similar. The only striking feature they share is the "centrifuge wheel" design, which I imagine is not unique. Is there a station somewhere in sci-fi that looks more similar to this one? Something from Star Trek, maybe? (I browsed around [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Main_Page Memory Alpha], but nothing jumped out at me. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:39, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:That's exactly the point, the centrifuge design isn't unique. The Brothers Chaps could have seen the idea anydangwhere. Also, didn't it appear in [[theme song]]? [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 13:55, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

== Flavors ==

If we don't have a running gag about flavors, we should. (If it already exists, I couldn't find it.) I thought about just "Color Flavors" but we also have water described as Malinko- and Strong Bad-flavored water (in [[rough copy]]). We have orange- and black-flavored from [[Malloween Commercial]], Bubs's sno-cone flavors, and the drinks in [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]]. Any name suggestions? Anyone is welcome to take this ball and run with it; I ain't so gung-ho about creating articles at the moment. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 18:36, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:I dunno, we could have an [[Unusual Flavors]] or a [[Flavor Variations]] section for things like the flavored water and the orange-and-black marshmallows, respectively, but I don't think normal flavors like grape, cherry, green apple, etc. deserve a mention outside of the articles about the food/drink.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 19:22, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::[[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] created [[Color flavored]]. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:41, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Interesting. Without reading this discussion I made [[Color flavored]]. Modestly Ok minds think very closely, right? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::::In my defense, I was talking about flavors, not-color flavors. Still, my bad. Sorry.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 19:59, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
== Highly Intellectual Property ==

Are there anymore instances of Strong Sad wearing the glasses he wears in this sbemail and [[rough copy]]. I'm wondering if they can be featured as a running gag.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 19:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:didn't he also wear those in [[business trip]]? --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 20:29, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think so. Those had legs, or whatever you call the part of the glasses that are held up by the ears. They might be a variation though. I haven't seen the DVD, but could someone who has tell me if they're the same glasses that are featured in [[Accent]]?--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 20:43, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

== Gel-Arshie ==

the jello marshie has a visible brain. worth mentioning? ---[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 20:45, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:I think a better place to bring this up would be [[Gel-arshie|here]].--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 20:58, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

== State-shaped gelatin blob on Strong Bad? ==

Does anyone else see that Strong Bad has a glob of gelatin on his pants toward the end of the e-mail in the shape of the state of Florida? Or am I crazy? Is this worth a mention?
:I don't think it's worth a mention. We eventually decided not to note the smiley face-shaped globs of whatsit adorning the Hornblower in [[KOT's VOQPCS!]]. The notability requires intent, you see. It's likely coincidence. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:46, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::Definitely not a coincidence. It looks unmistakably like florida. It seems to me TBC are playing the hidden shapes game now, as this isn't the first time they've done this, and i bet we could find many more stated or whatnot in other places where blotchiness appear. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:58, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I totally agree. When I first saw it, I tried to click on it. If you google "florida jello", the first result is a picture of hot girls wrestling in jello from the university of florida... you think that could be it? [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 05:06, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::lol, i kept meaning to double check it and see if that was really florida - thus, my vote is Yes, theres a florida shaped "jello" blob
:::::Well, I double checked after reading this thread, and there's not enough resemblance. It's definitely not Florida.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:37, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::There's no doubt it looks as much like FL as you can expect with translucent dessert related substance. Though until I see more states popping up, I'm not going to assume that it was intentional, but the resemblance is unmistakable and undeniable. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:37, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

== Inside reference is probably wrong. ==

It's probably not the first time this has happened. Anyways, I don't think that the comic was named for Real Mutants #87 (Obscure, I'm sure). I think it was named so because of the fact that it was email 1'''87'''. I'm sorry, obscure comic fanboys, but it's not true. Try again next time. - [[User:Eruption257|Eruption257]]

==Skateboarding==
I know he said it was imaginary, but wouldn't Strong Bad look cool skateboarding?[[User:Hooray4Trogdor95|Hooray4Trogdor95]] 02:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:You mean like [[looking old|with a helmet, knee and shoulder pads, and a tube of yogurt]] — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 11:35, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::Sorry, I to am so on the go that I forgot that picture:and drink yogurt from a tube[[User:Hooray4Trogdor95|Hooray4Trogdor95]] 12:12, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::That's right, Hooray4Wormdingler95, you drink everything from a tube — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 14:33, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::This is getting VERY forumy. --{{User:GardenBoy/sig}} 01:32, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

==Bubs Evolution==
Am I crazy, or is Bubs undergoing anatha evolution stage? He looks a little different... {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:No, they've just started doing his arms differently. ALso, it's spelt "another". [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 13:57, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
::I know it's "another". Can't a guy pronounce something differently once in a while? {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:::Pronounce? yes. Spell? no thanks.

== Frog Eggs ==
<blockquote>
"Frog Eggs" refers to the science fiction novel ''[[Wikipedia:His Master's Voice (novel)|His Master's Voice]]'' by [[Wikipedia:Stanisław Lem|Stanisław Lem]], in which scientists try to decipher an alien message, but only manage to create a gelatin-like substance they call "Frog Eggs".
</blockquote>
The "Frog Eggs" reference seems to be too far-fetched for me. There's no real relation, apart from the two words. [[User:JudgeDeadd|JudgeDeadd]] 04:31, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::I dunno, I think it makes sense, since we're talking gelatinous things (such as jell-o) here that TBC may have intended that one. [[User:Cheesius|-- Cheesius]] 11:35, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I think the definitive proof for the fact is Strong Sad (the geeky character) says "I don't even get that one", telling us that the reference is obscure. I think the reference provided is obscure enough to fit what Gron Sad says. — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 11:44, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::That's a ridicolous kind of "proof". There's absolutely no proof that this is what was intended, apart from the name ("frog eggs" is a common phrase!), gelatinuosity (real frog eggs are truly gelatinous, aren't they?), and notice that Strong Bad is saying "How we doing here, frog eggs?" - thus implying he was referring to Homestar and Strong Sad, not the stuff in the pool.
:::::The fact here isn't just about Frog Eggs, it's about the science fiction novel "His Master's Voice" by Stanislaw Lem, which is something that would generally be within Strong Sad's geekines. We're talking about Jell-o here, and unless anyone can come up with another 'frog eggs' linkage, and moreover one that fits the "I don't even" comment, I say the fact stays. — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 13:29, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::Removed. Stuff it if you wish--[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 16:53, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Re-added. I think we should give this maybe more than 12 hours of discussion before we make a decision. —[[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 16:55, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I doubt it's a reference. Your proof about even strong sad not getting it holds no water, as the point of making references is for people to get them and find them funny. If i was making a cartoon and I made a reference to some inside joke i have with my roommate, would that be funny to the rest of the world? no. Furthermore, SB was referring to SS and HR, not the jello. please burninate this fact. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:57, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Re-re-removed. A reference this flimsy and obsure should be assumed incorrect and moved to STUFF.--[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 17:00, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Seven thumbs down on this "fact". {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:01, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::Mycroft, if you want it STUFFed, then STUFF it, but don't keep edit warring. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:02, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::We've been preferring talk page discussion to STUFF where possible lately, which is very much as it should be. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:03, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::TBC have made exceptionally obscure references before. In [[web comics]] this fact was STUFF'd and accepted. # "Web in Front" is a song by North Carolina-based indie rock band Archers of Loaf. Just because it's obscure doesn't mean it is any less true. &mdash[[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 17:05, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::But that was where clicking on "web in front" produces a sign saying "go loaf". Here there's no such connection. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:06, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Frog Eyes means Jell-o is referenced, and characters themselves refer to its obscurity. I see that at least as much a connection as Web in Front and the word Loaf — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 17:08, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::: I think that the connection between the two very plausible, since we are talking about a fairly famous science fiction novel, and there is a linkage between the word SB uses and the substance in that particular novel ''and'' in the pool. And I would use a counter example to DeFender's argument; Mystery Science Theater often pulled in the most obscure references. The point was not that everybody got it, but if only a few people did. In this case, "Frog Eggs" on the surface seems like a non-sequitur by Strong Bad, but if you know the novel, then you get the joke. It strikes me that TBC are the type of people that would love to put in that sort of multilayered reference in occasionally. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 17:09, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:Working on STUFF entry now--[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 17:10, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'm a bit disappointed we've ended up once again at a vote rather than discussion, but I guess it's better than an edit war. :-S {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::: STUFFed. IMHO, highly questionable facts like this one should NOT be added to the article. They need to be here or in STUFF until accepted or rejected.--[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 17:16, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Could it be that Strong Bad was just insulting Strong Sad because Frog Eggs are fat and geletonous, and the same goes for Strong Sad (in Strong Bad's opinion) {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
Seriously, people, should not the article mention something about "Frog Eggs" and its link to Strong Bad's habit of creating [[Nicknames#Strong Sad|nicknames]] for Strong Sad? After all, Strong Sad does answer "I don't even get that one", as if Strong Bad directed it at him. At least I think this could be good for new viewers..
--[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 13:47, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

== Your Funeral ==

Homestar and Strong Bad's voices are distorted similarly to how Strong Bad's was after he was preserved in the funeral episode. That it's a reference is strengthened by Homestar's request to be preserved in red Jell-O.
:That's just a similar [[sound effect]]. I don't think there's a connection, really. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

== It's Abort, Retry, Ignore, or Fail, when I state ==

That's supposed to be a reference to something on DOS/Command Prompt where you try to access a drive that's empty (like a floppy disk drive). --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 18:17, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:What are you talking about? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:38, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::He's talking about the Strong Badman comic Easter egg. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 18:44, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::[[First Time Here?|Okay, this time I'm totally gonna get it. Seriously you guys.]] Okay, so I go to my old computer with Win ME on it, and I'm in command prompt right now. I go a:\ and this shows up:

Not ready reading drive A
Abort, Retry, Fail?

Now, I remember I used to have a really old computer that had Win 3.1 on it, and it said, Abort, Retry, Ignore, Fail. [[wikipedia:Abort, Retry, Fail?|Here's the Wikipedia entry.]] --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 18:47, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I remember that. I used to run an old Windows 3.1 computer, and in DOS I would always have trouble with old disks. It used to always yell "Abort, Retry, or Fail?" at me. I've put it into the Fun Facts, under Real World References, since nobody's done that yet. -Zero.exe

== Voice Effect ==

Is it just me, or did their voices under the jello seem to have the same effect applied as Horrible Painting's voice? Has this effect ever been used besides that? It may be worth mentioning.
[[User:75.111.216.18|75.111.216.18]] 21:24, 22 January 2008 (UTC)Burninated
:yeah, it's not the jibblies effect, it's the zombies one. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:32, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:That's it...

::If you used Audacity to make such a voice effect, what would be the name of that effect anyway?--[[User:66.82.9.104|66.82.9.104]] 05:35, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Uh...Audacity? What's that?
::::A downloadable program for recording and editing sound, duh. I don't know what TBC use to record sound, though. --[[User:71.129.216.174|71.129.216.174]] 00:51, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

==Strong Sad's belly's ball sound==
that's three references. {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}
:That's right, as is mention on [[Sound Effects]]. — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 03:42, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

== Talk and Mouth Move Goof ==

:''When Strong Sad said "any second now." his mouth wouldn't move. This was fixed later the next day.''

This is listed as a Fixed Goof, but I never saw this goof to begin with and I was super early in seeing this email. I usually notice something this obvious, and I just didn't see it. Can anyone confirm that this was really a goof? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 15:33, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I listed it as a goof before it was fixed, then someone put this up. It was clearly not moving. [[User:Unbalanced|Unbalanced]] 23:02, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
:It would still be good to have a second witness. Will anyone come forward? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:29, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
:True, I didn't see this mouth goof anywhere. Either I saw this email too late, or Someone made a mistake. [[User:Schofie9x|Schofie9x]](School computer)

== Oh Dang! ==

Strong Badman is saying this in the Easter Egg, and Coach Z says it when Peacey P orders breakfast in [[Rap Song]]. Are there any more instances of this, and could it be a running joke? [[User:75.69.70.69|75.69.70.69]] 00:36, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
:"Dang" is used quite a lot in the cartoon. I remember I think it was Strong Bad who said he didn't want something "any-dang-way". Anyway, I think it's just the Brothers Chaps getting around swearing, and it doesn't need its own page. It's not even particularly noteworthy, much less funny. [[User:Kvn8907|Kvn8907]] 21:51, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

== Spokane and Bubs' Arms ==

First Spokane. Remember '"Cat," spoke Anne, "Wash!"' Inside reference?

And now for Bubs. His arms a really short in this. He strikes me here as more of a sock puppet than anything in this one. It's definitely a new art style for him.--[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 00:46, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

: Spokane: I say yes. Bubs: umm... {{User:Visorbot 386/sig}} 01:59, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

== Just Wondering ==

While this may have no real relavence to this cartoon I was wondering if you did this in real life and got sucked under the jello would you die or would your trail leave enough space for air to get to you?--[[User:Nogain|Nogain]] 01:29, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
:YOu're right, it has no relevance to the toon. Why not take this to the forum? Or some bizarre science website? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:59, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

:I think you'd probably just lay on top of it, and only sink in a few inches. And even if it was a bit warm and had the consistancy of quicksand, you could probably still float on your back with in it. [[User:Kvn8907|Kvn8907]] 21:54, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
::The viscosity of gelatin is about the same as that of water (slightly higher, if random pages found by Google are to be believed, but it almost certainly varies by recipe... different sites give it as anywhere between 0.5% and 50% denser than water) so if anything you'd sink less in gelatin than in water. The main difference is in the viscosity... gelatin is extremely viscous, so it'd take you a long time to sink down to that level... you'd probably just lie on top of it, as Kvn says. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:29, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

== 187 ==
Shouldn't there be a thing in the explanations part or whatever explaining Coach Z's 187 reference?
"187 is a numeric code for the crime of murder used by law enforcement officials, particularly in the U.S. state of California. The number is used for this purpose because Section 187 of the California Penal Code defines the crime of murder.

The number 187 is now in common use by many gangs throughout the United States as a synonym for murder; this usage has been reported among gangs as far away as Florida and Wisconsin."
:Look again, it's there. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:03, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

== No, Seriously. This is fixed. ==
[[Image:KoT Straw.PNG|thumb|200px|See? No sticky-outy straw!]]
People keep editing that the KoT straw glitch isn't fixed, BUT IT IS! Seriously, we should stop this myth. [[User:Unbalanced|Unbalanced]] 00:24, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
:The straw moves upwards slowly. Take a look at the earlier frames in the scene, not the later ones. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:25, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
::Yup, I still see it, too. And I cleared my cache and everything. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:30, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I checked the earlier in the scene, and it's there. [[User:Unbalanced|Unbalanced]] 00:37, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

== 40-E, anyone? ==
Does anyone have any idea what the 40-E on the space station refers to? I can't imagine TBC putting something there if it was meaningless. The closest thing I could find was a rapper that goes by the name "E-40". If he is a gansta rapper, it would fit in with Coach Z's urban legend, but I have no idea. Any thoughts? -Eaglescout1984 21:22, 26 January 2008 (GMT)
:There may be something meaningful behind it, but it's pure speculation at this point. There's no clear connection I can find to a space station or anything like it that "40-E" might refer to. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:27, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

== Pointless?==
So, about this explanation: ""IN" is the US postal abbreviation of Indiana." I think it's safe to delete, seeing as this explanation isn't needed in any of the other 100-something emails that use a US state abbreviation. Delete? {{User:Visorbot 386/sig}} 01:58, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm, you raise a good point about pointlessness. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 02:00, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

== Look closely... ==

You can see some patches of gelatin shaped like states. I saw one in the shape of Florida. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 02:52, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
:[[#State-shaped gelatin blob on Strong Bad?|see above.]] {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:04, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

== Bubs-Bill Cosby? ==
Do you think it was intentional that immediately after Homestar mentions Bill Cosby it cut to Bubs and Coach Z talking? I mean, Bubs does sound like Bill Cosby, or at least Fat Albert voiced by Bill Cosby. Might it have been a subtle nod to one of the inspirations for Bubs? [[User:Kvn8907|Kvn8907]] 21:48, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
:Nah, Bubs sounds like Redd Foxx. At least, that was the original intent. Having grown up watching Fat Albert every Saturday, I'm qualified to say no, Bubs sounds nothing like Fat Albert. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:00, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

== Project G.e.e.K.e.R. Reference? ==

Yes, I realize this is a late contribution, but "Red Flavored Fluffy Puff Translucent Dessert Related Substance" really reminded me of "Moloch-Brand Instant Brown Milk-Coloring Substance" from the cartoon listed above. Possible? [[User:Aranai|Aranai]] 01:51, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Frog Eggs and Ham ===
{{stufffact|"Frog Eggs" refers to the science fiction novel ''[[Wikipedia:His Master's Voice (novel)|His Master's Voice]]'' by [[Wikipedia:Stanisław Lem|Stanisław Lem]], in which scientists try to decipher an alien message, but only manage to create a gelatin-like substance they call "Frog Eggs".}}
{{stuffverdict|17:14, 22 January 2008 (UTC)|08:27, 28 January 2008 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|20|3|winter pool}}

== Inappropriate? ==

Now, as I recall, while Wikipedia is uncensored, the hrwiki strives to be family friendly. Don't we usually mark links which lead to possibly objectionable content as such? The link to the Wiki page on 187 should certainly be marked as such, along with...well, a lot of the links we have to Wiki pages which contain bad language.

Other sightings often warns us of objectionable content on sites like Weebl & Bob or VGCats, which, while using some inappropriate remarks, are nothing compared to what certain Wiki pages contain.

Just a thought. Is there a template for this, like [objectionable content] or something? If not, should we creat a new one?
-- [[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 06:28, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
:which link specifically are you referring to? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 06:30, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
::As stated above, the Wiki link to 187_(murder). There are plenty of other links like this, and if need be, I'd be glad to identify them all...but obviously, that's another project entirely. --[[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 06:41, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't see anything inappropriate on that page... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 06:43, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Under Media References on that page there's a ton of inappropriate stuff. When I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=winter_pool&diff=536821&oldid=536811 added] the fact, my link to Wikipedia was to [[Wikipedia:187 (number)|187 (number)]]. I suggest we change it back to that. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:49, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::I hate to evoke the slippery slope argument, but 'Kipedia is not censored. If we're going to say that we need to throw up an objectionable disclaimer on every one of our pages [winter pool] that links to one of their pages [187(number)] that links to an entirely different page [187(murder)] then I think we're going a little out of what is normal in the pursuit of family friendly — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 09:01, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::I understand that it's a slippery slope, and I certainly don't think we can warn about every link that potentially links to another bad page. I mean, honestly, we'd never be able to put up links of any sort, as nearly the entire internet's connected. The problem here is that 187 (murder)--which was ''directly'' linked to--contained the "f" word more times than I care to count.

::::::That sounds so childish. Ah well. --[[User:Onamuji|Onamuji]] 13:19, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

HRWiki talk:Subtitles

2008-01-20T03:13:22Z

WP CEO: /* Norwegian (Bokmål), code: NO-NB */

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{{Subtitles Talk Archive}}

== Language requests ==
=== Dutch (NL) ===

Would you please add NL to [[Subtitles:Languages]]? --[[User:Pdedecker|Pdedecker]] 11:18, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
:I just saw that NL has been added, thanks! --[[User:Pdedecker|Pdedecker]] 18:46, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
::Oh yes, I forgot to post in this thread. You're welcome! Cheers! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:21, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

=== Finnish (FI) ===

I would be quite eager to start out with Finnish subtitling cartoons, as I have absolutely nothing to do after I get home from college (weird, huh?). So if someone would add Finnish there, it'd be much obliged. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 16:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:You should be all set. Go crazy go nuts! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:35, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

=== Polish (PL) ===

What I said. [[User:JudgeDeadd|JudgeDeadd]] 04:34, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
:You should be good to go. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:06, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

=== Turkish (TR) ===

Could you add Turkish language to the subtitles, please? Peace at Home, Peace in the World [[User:85.107.249.107|85.107.249.107]] 11:05, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:I would be happy to, but tell me a little bit about yourself first. Do you intend to write the subtitles pages yourself, or do you just wish that Turkish was already available? If you mean that you're going to help write them, then why not [[Special:Userlogin|sign up for an account]]? It's free and has many benefits. On the other hand, if you just want to be able to read the site in Turkish, then we'll need to find a translator first. Please let me know. Talk atcha later! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:21, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
::Hello, do you remember me? Or an IP starts with 85? Don't remember? Then, look at subtitles requests and choose Turkish(TR) from the navigation menu? Yeah, I did what you say, and it passed some time, but I was looking continually the page whether a reply comes before you reply. And, that's your answer: I'm Turkish, and so, I can read and write Turkish subtitles. I know English, of course, but not all Turks. (Or some of them are know at least). Anyway, I want Turkish subtitles add to the list, and my goal is that HR cartoons have loved by Turkish kids, adults, and everyone. Is this wrong? Say if it is. Anymore, I already tested a SB Email cartoon. Look if you want. [http://subtitles.hrwiki.org/sbemail167/tr Here comes.] OK, I think it (my reply) is long enough. I talked you and if you want, you talk atcha later, too. Thanx. [[User:Homesturk|Homesturk]] 16:57, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Of course I remember you. Glad to see you created an account! I will enable the Turkish subtitles just as soon as I get a chance. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:11, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
::Turkish is now enabled. Start tranglin'! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:51, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

=== Italian (IT) ===

Italian is one of the most well-known languages in the world. I think it deserves subtitles. [[User:124.176.190.64|124.176.190.64]] 08:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
:See below. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:49, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

=== Japanese (JP) ===

This language is infamous for its bad translations into English - I think it deserves subtitles as well. I am also a fluent Japanese speaker. [[User:124.176.190.64|124.176.190.64]] 08:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
:See below. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:49, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

=== Chinese (ZH) ===

Another popular language! [[User:124.176.190.64|124.176.190.64]] 08:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
:We don't enable languages just because they're there. We have to have someone demonstrate that they're committed to working on translation. Why don't you [[Special:Userlogin|create an account]] and let us know what kind of input you can give and then we'll talk again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:49, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

=== Norwegian (Bokmål), code: NO-NB ===

I am Norwegian, and a huge fan of both H*R and H*R Wiki (for real, they are both on my [[Wikipedia:Russ|Russ]] card!)! I was hoping you could add Norwegian Bokmål (there are two official written languages in Norway). But you must know that my intention is to only translate, like, three to five of my favourite toons, just for fun. I honestly believe that as good as all Norwegian H*R fans know English well enough to make extensive site translation unnecessary (primarily because I would guess they are all in their late teens or older). But if you would rather prefer more serious contributions, I respect that. --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 08:23, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm, if you know going in that you're only going to do three to five toons, then it's not really worth all the things we have to do behind the scenes to set it up. If someday you think you could add a more substantial number of subtitles (or if someone else would be willing to help out), then let me know and I'll be happy to enable them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:35, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
::Oh, I was not aware it was a big job for you, sorry! I will keep this in mind, and mention it to the H*R fans I know. Perhaps I will change my mind about it, we will see. Thanks a lot! --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 03:13, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

== From Da Basement ==
''Copied from [[HRWiki:Da_Basement#Subtitles]]:''
<blockquote>

Some of us have started working on subtitling Homestar Runner Flash cartoons to make them accessible to a wider audience. I would like to know what the HRWiki folks think about this. Should this be a part of the knowledge base wiki? Should it be separate? Would you help? The subtitles are based on the transcripts from the wiki, so there is a strong connection already. The [http://hstarsubs.awardspace.com/ subtitles project] is still beta, but it should work with Firefox and Internet Explorer. Most subtitles have been donated by Phlip from an older project, and I and Elcool have done the international ones. Check it out and let us know.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:00, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
: I personally know one person who'd be interested in that... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:19, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
::I strongly support having some way to intergrate the subtitles files into the wiki. As a non-native speaker sometimes I need to go over the wiki transcript just to see what a word or two means. This way , it's already inside the toon window itself. Also, we could open the door for people with hearing problems who still want experiance Homestar Runner like the rest of us. Some flash artists like Weeble from Weeble and Bob and the people behind Too Much Spare Time Animation have already added subtitles to some of their toons. So If TBC aren't going to do it themselvs, we are here for them. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 22:26, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
: The .xml file for Exp Film's Commentary doesn't work. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:54, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
::Cheers, fixed the link. Also, listening to the commentary is currently not possible anyway, because of Flash security measures :-/ And I forgot to upload the experiment film subs, will have to wait until I'm back home.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:09, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
:::We need this in the [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|Greasemonkey script]], pronto. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 02:38, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
:Well, I showed it to the person I previously alluded. The biggest reason I got into H*R in the first place was because it allowed me to share the gift of Homestar with this person, who cannot hear. She says she likes the subtitled stuff better than the Wiki. "But no offense." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:09, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
::Seriously, you just made my day :-D {{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:27, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Deaf watchers, eh? I'd assume ''captions'', as opposed to ''subtitles'' would be more important then, yes? (For the uninitiated: subtitles transcribe the words, captions transcribe all the sound effects too.) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:38, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Take 'em as they come. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:49, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
:Okay, let's just say, hypothetically, I wanted to make one of these. How would I get the frame numbers to start/stop each line on? And how would I test it? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:06, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
::We haven't quite worked out the standards for subtitles/captions yet, so the format may change a little. But if you want to try it now, then here's how you do it: You need Phlip's Firefox [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|Greasemonkey script]]. This will give you a seek bar for Flash toons from Homestarrunner.com. It also displays the current frame number. Then you grab one of the XML files from the subtitle site, scoop it empty, and use it as a skeleton. You probably also want to copy the text of the transcript into this file and split it up into short sections or sentences that you want to display as one title. Then use the seekbar to find the first and last frame numbers for each of the sections. It gets easy after you've done it once or twice. And you get to know the toon pretty well. Also note that each character has his or her own colour code. I'll put a page online soon with some more detailed hints, and I'll come up with a way of testing the titles. — I'm still not sure where to put the page with instructions. Do people believe this should be an HRWiki project, or should it be separate? {{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Aside from the frame numbers, I'd pretty much figured that all out. I have the beginnings of a [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] .xml file, but without frame numbers. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:29, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Sound promising :-) I'll come up with a test page soon(ish). And you've heard that before, but... you should really be on IRC ;-) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:36, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I've never successfully managed to join IRC when a useful conversation is taking place. Plus, I have issues getting to it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:40, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Alright you guys, I finished the .XML file for Cool Tapes. [[User:The Mu/subtitleCoolThings|Ding!]] ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 03:04, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Is there a talk page specifically for this project? I thought of some things to discuss, but we'd flood Da Basement. I think there should be some sort of central Wiki page for this project, even if it's in a User space. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:38, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
: I'm not in the mood for IRC right now, but I figured I'd give an update. I have all of the text in my .xml file. I do not, however, have any frame numbers past the three Coach Z/Pom Pom scenarios. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:47, 26 August 2006 (UTC)<blockquote>
</blockquote>

== Translation Guidelines ==

<blockquote>Always start from the English subtitles. This saves a lot of time and work, because then, the frame numbers only have to be found once. Use the same <code>start</code> and <code>end</code> values for all languages.</blockquote>

Do we want to phrase it this way? I can imagine a scenario where this would lead to a poorer subtitling. First, if the English is not subtitled well, we're basically asking the translator to not improve it, which is, in a word, stupid. Second, there will be times when for the timing of a joke to work right, or for the reader to have sufficient time to read the subtitle, the <code>start</code> or <code>end</code> values may need to vary. Trouble is, I'm not sure how to word it. Thoughts welcome. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:00, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
:I'm not sure how to respond to question. I can give you a hazy answer, at best. Generally speaking, it is MUCH easier for a translator to take the original subtitles XML page and simply reword the idea being expressed by the text. As least for most romance languages word placement (in grammar) is similar enough that the right timing for an english translation will correlate with the right timing for an adequate translation. That is, when something is said in the english subtitles, the same thing should be said in the <insert favorite foreign language here> translation. Most english subtitles also go by transcript (I beleive) so if the English transcript is well-written, a skilled translator should not have much trouble conveying the same idea. What's left would be improper timing in the original english subtitle. If that is the case, those subtitles would need to be re-timed (or words re-split). Any re-timings can be fixed in other translations, while re-splits can be notified with a {{tl|fixtranslation}} tag, and a note in each translation's discussion. Again, as for timings/splits having to be different across translations I consider that to be an unlikely occurrence, and not necessarily a serious impact in translation quality. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:05, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
:I have also added a note suggesting that the translated toon be watched in order to make sure that the translation went ok. I figure if any inconsistencies arise they can be caught there and the translator can choose to change index times if need be. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:53, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

== RTL Necessary? ==
I guess this is more of a viewer implementation issue, but, according to the text:
<blockquote>*If your language is written from the right to the left, put <code>dir="rtl"</code> in the opening <code><transcript></code> tag.</blockquote>
Isn't the RTL property a language-dependent property? If so, shouldn't that be permanently set in the [[Subtitles:Languages]] file? That way:
*Translators that need RTL don't need to "remember to add it" every time a new toon is translated.
*Anyone feeling funny won't put "RTL" in some english toons.
I'm also sure no language has text that is RTL and non-RTL. The only time that I'd see RTL be changed is if non-RTL text is inlined with a translation (in a different language) of RTL text (or vice versa), something H*R I doubt will ever see. This would mean a per-line optional RTL field for the viewer. Anyway. I just wanted to put that suggestion up if it's feasible, that way the line I quoted can also be removed. (That would save E.L. Cool some trouble too ;) ) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:18, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

::I think you're right, it's a per-language property. And it is actually possible to choose an alternate direction within a subtitles script using a tag. I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle of changing the code, though ;-) Let's see what Phlip says.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:41, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
:::I was suggesting that the code handle both ways: the old and new, in order to avoid incompatibilities with existing transcripts, whereas allowing us to make newer sleeker ones! :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:14, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

== doc.documentElement has no properties ==

That's what it says when I try to access the subtitles via the external viewer under the Error Console. [[User:76.184.199.4|76.184.199.4]] 23:33, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
:Which browser are you using? And which subtitles are you trying to see?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:34, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

::Firefox, and all of them. [[User:76.184.199.4|76.184.199.4]] 12:21, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

:::Blast! You're right, it's broken :-/ It's past bed time for me, so it'll have to wait for now. Thanks for letting me know. In the meantime, you could go ahead and install the [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|Greasemonkey script]] for your browser. It displays subtitles flawlessly and has lots of other cool features (like a seek bar and a fullscreen mode).{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:28, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

== More Visible? ==

Since the purported purpose of this project (nice alliteration) is to help those with difficulty understanding the toons, perhaps it would be better to make them more visible on the pages of individual toons, or perhaps put a link to subtitles on the main page of the wiki. I accidentally stumbled up subtitles the other day while going through the recent changes, and if I, an avid wiki user, didn't see them except by accident, they may be missing their intended audience. Just a suggestion, take it with as big a grain of salt as you need.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 22:30, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
:I think that putting a link on the main page is an excellent idea. Where should it go? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:46, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
::Might I suggest a link under the "Browse the Knowledge Base" section, in the Miscellany subsection (if space allows)? Perhaps the title "Subtitled Toons" might be appropriate as well. Though a more prominent place might be more advisable. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:57, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

::I think this a great idea too. After looking through the various groupings of links on the main page, I didn't think it fit very well into any of the existing categories. So, maybe something separate, like including this somewhere on the main page:

:::''Want to enjoy Homestar Runner without sound? Check out our [[HRWiki:Subtitles|Subtitles project]].''

::That can probably be reworded better, though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:58, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

:::I was thinking about the same section as Stux. And if we're '''really bold''', we could add subtitles links to new toons in the whatsnew section... We could also announce the subtitles project on the main page like Trey suggested for a few weeks maybe? '''Important:''' let me fix the external viewer before we make it more public.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:02, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Do you mean alongside the "watch" link, adding a "watch with subtitles" link? If so, I was thinking of suggesting the same thing but refrained. The external viewer definitely needs to have the improvements that have been made to the userscript pulled over before we point people to it.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:15, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::I don't think it's necessary to put a link to each individual subtitles page of all the toons listed on the main page (especially since we prefer that people use the GM script). If we make the link to the project prominent enough, that should be plenty for now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:11, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

== Greasemonkey Incompatibility with Newer Firefox Versions ==

Not so much a problem with the Greasemonkey script as with Greasemonkey itself. Right now I'm running Minefield 3.0a4, and Greasemonkey doesn't seem to like any versions higher than 2. Is there any simple way to fix this without resorting to the whole "unpack, edit version, repack" thing, or ''is'' that the simple way? LEMME NOES. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 01:19, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
:I wasn't aware that GM even loads — I haven't tried Minefield yet. I assume you understand the implications of running alpha level software... one of them being can count on not everything working. (You can expect that from early ''betas'' even). Are you trying a similiarly bleeding-edge revision of GM? You could try using a copy direct from their development [http://svn.devjavu.com/greasemonkey/trunk/ source tree], might help.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 01:55, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
::The latest version still only works up to Firefox 2, but I tweaked the <tt>maxversion</tt> parameter and I'm good to go. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 04:37, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

== Browser Compatibility ==

{| border=1 cellspacing=2 cellpadding=2
! Browser !! Greasemonkey !! External Viewer
|-
| Firefox 1.5 || XP, Linux || XP, Linux
|-
| Firefox 2.0 || XP, Linux, OSX || XP, Linux, OSX
|-
| Firefox 3 ||- || -
|-
| Opera 9 || - || XP
|-
| Safari || - || OSX
|-
| IE 5.0 || - || -
|-
| IE 5.5 || - || XP, [http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page Linux]
|-
| IE 6 || - || XP, [http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page Linux]
|-
| IE 7 || - || XP
|-
| MSN Explorer || - || XP
|-
| SeaMonkey 1.1.1 || - || XP, Linux
|-
| SeaMonkey 1.5 || - || -
|-
| Netscape 7.2 || - || XP
|-
| Epiphany || - || Linux
|}
I've rewritten the external viewer, and now it reportedly runs in most browsers on several OSs. Yay! Thanks to DorianGray, Trey56, Lapper, Tom, Stux, Has Matt? and Dot Com for beta-testing it. If you have a browser/OS combination that hasn't been tested yet, please post the results below (including browser name and version as well as the operating system), and I'll update the box above (kudos to Stux for suggesting the table). Yay! The external viewer is finally doing what it's supposed to do :-D{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:41, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
:SeaMonkey 1.1.1 works, but what they've got so far for 1.5 loads the toon but not the subtitles, so we may wind up doing this all over again when Firefox 3 comes out. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 10:48, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, that's not until November or whenever. That's like decades in internet-years ;-) Thanks for testing, everybody! It looks like we've got a good coverage of browsers now.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:44, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
ACupOfCoffee: does this mean that neither viewer works in Firefox 3?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:29, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

== Pop-Up Video ==

This subtitles project is super and awesome and super awesome. I was wondering what people would think about using the subtitles framework for a sort of pop-up video-type commentary track. For instance, the script could tell you where to click for Easter eggs, and maybe run short fun facts. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:15, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
:This is an interesting idea, but I'm not sure the benefit would outweigh the expense on this one. What kind of mechanism did you have in mind for this? I dunno... We've done pretty well just listing Easter eggs and things on the wiki. Transcripts are pretty cut-and-dried most of the time, but including fun facts seems like it would just be opening us to having to argue about them in two places instead of one. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:43, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
::I'm not sure what you mean by what kind of mechanism. The subtitle mechanism. What expense would there be? I'm willing to do them. And maybe not fun facts. This stemmed from the fact that I can never remember when to click to get the Easter egg while I'm actually watching the toon. I think it would be neat to have an automatic reminder come up. (Also, if I want to see where to click to get an Easter egg, it's in the same place as what the Easter egg contains so I'm spoiled for it.) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 16:15, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Thanks for the compliment, Homestar Coder ^_^. I had actually thought about adding this kind of functionality for Easter eggs at the beginning of the project. I decided against it for several reasons: displaying popups over a Flash object is a much less stable solution than displaying text next to a Flash object. For example, it does not work at all under Linux. Accordingly, our Easter egg hints might often have to be lengthy descriptions on where to click. The timing for Easter egg hints would also have to be asynchronous to the timing of the subtitles, making our display code a little more complicated. Of course it's all technically possible, and probably not such a great deal to implement in a very simple and robust manner. How usable it would be is another question. I also believe that this would take away a great deal of the toons' charm. Easter eggs are supposed to be hard to find, and listing them in an article is already a great help. I suspect that making them even easier to find might make them somewhat boring. But that might just be me. I guess if I find some time in the next few hours, I could whip up a simple example where I replace the subtitles with Easter eggs and fun facts, just to see how it would be... I ''am'' curious.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:52, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
::::Cool, thans for the response. I guess the pop-up thing was misleading; I don't want actual pop-ups showing where to click, just text saying "click the word egg!" or some such. There aren't all that many toons where the description of where to click is that long or difficult. And yes, the timing of Easter eggs is asynch to the timing of subtitles; I was always thinking it would be a separate track, so you couldn't have any subtitles on at the same time. As for removing the charm... well, I actually came up with this idea when I was catching up on my toon-watching, and realized I had two choices to make sure I saw all the Easter eggs: hold down tab during the whole toon (annoying) or reading it on the Wiki, which immediately spoils the joke (most of the Easter egg comments are stuff like "click on the word egg to see Homsar cracking an egg on his head!"). {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 21:00, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::Hmmm, here's a rather un-sexy [http://subs.spacecactus.net/subtitles.php?name=sbemail65/en example for sbemail65].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:38, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::Well, I think it's pretty shiny. :) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 03:43, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::::That just proves that you're more of a coder than a user =3 I've added another variant of how to display an egg hint. Still not ideal... One thing that I noticed while coming up with the example was that fun facts are probably not going to work. They work well for music videos, but when you watch a toon, you will probably not want to read something that distracts you from what's going on.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 08:04, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Well, I totally did not remember that you could click the stacks of paper, and now I did! You're probably right about the fun facts though. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 13:45, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

== Singing ==
===Data===
As a test, who can see some of these symbols in their browser: ♩♪♫♬𝅘𝅥𝅘𝅥𝅮𝅘𝅥𝅯 ''♩♪♫♬𝅘𝅥𝅘𝅥𝅮𝅘𝅥𝅯'' (I can see the first 4, but not the last 3... I just put them in for completeness)... if they work in enough browser/font setups, perhaps we could use one of them instead of the ''(singing)'' tag in the subtitles... just a thought. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:19, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
:Same here, IE7 and Firefox 1.5 for Windows XP (SP2) and Firefox 1.5 and Safari 2 for MaxOS X (10.4.9). Incidentally, the italic versions don't look very good here (and in some cases are the same as the normal versions). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:22, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
:Same here (I'm at work, using Firefox 1.5 for Win XP (SP2)), but the second note of the non-italic version has the vertical line missing.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:43, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
::In the most recent version of Opera (W98), first 4 are same but non-italicized/italicized, last 3 are nothing. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:59, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I see "♩NN♬𝅘𝅥𝅘𝅥𝅮𝅘𝅥𝅯 ♩NN♬𝅘𝅥𝅘𝅥𝅮𝅘𝅥𝅯" in Firefox 2.0.0.6, N being a musical note. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 20:19, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

===Whether to do it===
I'd advise sticking with plain-English "singing" as that's obviously cross-platform. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:00, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

== Localized templates ==

The [[Template:subtitles|subtitles template]] is good in English, yes. But let's be honest: not too many English-speaking people, albeit if they know the foreign language, are going to watch the toon with some other language subtitles. Mostly the international subtitles are made for the people that don't speak English that well, right? Then why wouldn't we make a instructions template in that very language, then? It's good of course to have it in English. But there could ''also'' be another version in the subtitles language. This way the people that really need the subtitles (non-English speaking people) would know exactly how to see them. Good/bad idea? I don't want to take the power over this in my hands, because you guys know better. Thanks! --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 06:13, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
:I agree that there should be instructions somewhere for people in their native languages, but I'm not sure that's the place to do it. Since this is an English-language wiki, it takes at least a passing knowledge of English just to reach those pages in the first place. I'm not opposed to the idea, though, if others think that's a good place for such instructions. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:38, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I agree — instructions someplace for people who want to ''watch'' a toon with non-English language subtitles would be good, but the template isn't the best place. For the most part, the people who will look at the individual subtitles pages are translators, who should already know English well.

::<div id="pfargtl">What about a line <s>near the top of [[HRWiki:Subtitles]]</s> on the [[Main Page]] that says something like,</div>
<blockquote>
<center>''Want to view subtitles in a non-English language? Click your language for instructions:'' 
[[HRWiki:Subtitles instructions/de|Deutsch]] |
[[HRWiki:Subtitles instructions/he|עברית]] |
[[HRWiki:Subtitles instructions/es|Español]] |
[[HRWiki:Subtitles instructions/fr|Français]] |
[[HRWiki:Subtitles instructions/ne|Nederlands]] |
[[HRWiki:Subtitles instructions/fi|Suomi]] |
[[HRWiki:Subtitles instructions/pl|Polski]] |
[[HRWiki:Subtitles instructions/pt-br|Português do Brasil]]
</center>
</blockquote>
::Each page would have simple instructions on getting subtitles working, and probably some instructions on how to use the various options in the Greasemonkey script, etc.

::If we combine this with [[#More Visible?|adding a link to the subtitles project to the Main Page]], I think it could really help people get started watching Homestar Runner cartoons in their native languages.

::Well, just an idea, maybe there's a better way to do it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:23, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

:::I like that! Except that to get to that page, you would still need quite a spazzing English knowledge... Maybe a small boxie on the front page somewhere, leading to a quick introduction to the world of Homestar Runner and the wiki in each language (not exactly rewriting the wiki in some other language, just a few lines and a few lead characters, introducing Chapmans etc. - a ''summary'', if you like), combined with subtitles instructions and a list of the language's subtitles? So the users shouldn't be recycled through the Subtitles project page, just nice 'n' quick straight to business, you know? Just a thought. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 16:23, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

::::Ideas? Thoughts? Suggestions? Flames? Actions? Nothing? --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 21:45, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

:::::Sorry I haven't replied to this yet. I think this is an important problem, and we need to fix it. I've been too busy in the last few days to actually think about it. But soon, I'll promise ;-) Sorry for that. Blame the real life!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:32, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Alright, it only took me three weeks to actually read this discussion ;-) I think you are bringing up a very good point, Sysrq. Instructions in different languages on how to watch the subtitles would definitely be helpful. We have to have a good think about where to put them and how much we translate. As you guys have said before, to come to any page concerning subtitles, one has to have some knowledge of English. Now, if we assume that those subtitles help viewers with no or very little knowledge of English, should we create non-English pages that serve as the homepage / start page / entry point for non-English speakers? It kind of makes sense. People can link to / visit these pages directly without having to navigate through an English wiki. However, these pages should be confined to explaining how the subtitles work. Otherwise, we run the risk of starting to translate the whole wiki, and that's a completely different project. The next question would be if and how we translate the viewers themselves. Currently, the menus and text for both viewers are in English. I remember Phlip saying that it would be technically complicated to do this for the greasemonkey script, although I can't find that discussion right now. My suggestion is as follows:
# Create custom start pages for each language that explains how to view subtitles.
# Create a page like [[HRWiki:Subtitles/List]] that links directly to the toons / external viewer instead of the subtitles scripts.
# Add a translated help link to the viewers that point to the custom start pages based on the language of the script currently used.
I think that should be enough to bypass the wiki for non-English speakers.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:07, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

:I like it! The only thing I would add is a suggestion to add links to the translated help pages on the [[Main Page]] (something like [[#pfargtl|above]]) — sounds good! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:16, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
::Cool! I'm only now realizing that you already suggested most of the stuff I said ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:21, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

:::Meh, it sounds clearer the way you said it ;) I'm going to throw together a mock subtitles instructions page so people can get a better feel of what it might be like... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:24, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
::::Just a suggestion for the summary, we could just use the [[Article Sightings|Wikipedia entries in other languages]] where possible for the introduction to the website. That would save some translation work. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 03:56, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

:::::Okay, here's my version of the page that could be translated into other languages: [[User:Trey56/HRWiki:Welcome/LANGUAGE CODE]]. It needs a lot of work, and there are some incomplete sections. If anybody feels like editing it or making suggestions, go ahead. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:28, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

::::::Looks a-pretty-pretty good! However, I have some thoughts: Firstly, maybe Translating Subtitles shouldn't be so high, if at all there. If a person that speaks English well enough to translate subtitles would stumble across this wiki, they probably wouldn't visit (or at least think the world of) a page like this. Secondly, I think there should be at least ''some'' information about the world of H*R. When I first went to Homestarrunner.com, even watching "First Time Here?" didn't help too much. It's the wiki that really cracked it open for me. So, just the basics: who are the characters, what do they do, who does the website etc. Much like a short version of [[Homestar Runner (body of work)]]. I wouldn't also too much worry about translating the greasemonkey UI. Finns are used to the kind of instructions like "Click on the button that says this and this", no matter what the language is. And Trey's thing explains every function quite satisfactory indeed. But anyways, awesome work Trey56, and let me know when this is shined up enough to start translating it! --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 06:24, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

:::::::Ooh, good ideas. Maybe I can move the "Translating Subtitles" below the Greasemonkey script instructions. Also, what you mentioned about an "About H*R" section is a wonderful idea. Do you think the Greasemonkey instructions should be trimmed down? They ''are'' excruciatingly long right now... Thanks for the great feedback! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:28, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

::::::::I think it's only long because it's just an explanation on the check-marks. If we got rid of all the subheaders nad make it a bulleted list it will shorter in size. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:32, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

:::::::::No, the greasemonkey section's awesome. It serves as a sort of a manual, like in a very expensive TV: it explains every single little feature, but you'll only probably read it if you're very bored or seeking info about something particular. And if we translate the greasemonkey instruction titles like "Feature name in LANGUAGE ''(Feature name in English)''", they can find it instantly. Move the Translation part after the greasemonkey instructions, and put a few paragraphs about H*R on its old place, and we'll be all set as far as I'm concerned. :) --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 06:37, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

== Sub viewers ==

I love the subtitles viewer. Our version of Firefox is too old to download the Greasemonkey script. But just one thing. [[Why Come|Why come]] there isn't a viewer for the toons not on the actual site? For instance, there is no local viewer link in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] or [[A Jumping Jack Contest]]. [[User:Religious Corn|Religious Corn]] 22:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

:I guess it's a techincal limitation over how the viewer fetches the subtitle file, which is the page name on the Homestarrunner.com website. Or not. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 09:30, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

::Is it possible to add a viewer for these? [[User:Religious Corn|Religious Corn]] 20:51, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

:::Yes, it's possible and not that hard to do. I'm just currently really stretched for time. I'll put it on my long long list of things to do ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:07, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

One more thing...something is wrong with some other viewers. For instance, the viewers for [[A Jorb Well Done]] and [[The Luau]] have the wrong SWF names. The sbemail [[brianrietta]] does not have any subtitles. Just thought I'd let you know. [[User:Religious Corn|Religious Corn]] 22:25, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

:Ohhh, never mind. I'll just try to fix it myself, although I'm not quite sure how to fix brianrietta... {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 18:35, 25 September 2007 (UTC) 18:34, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

::Big Toons are done, next up are Shorts. I think I've figured out the problem with Brianrietta, but I'm not quite sure about it yet. Just have to wait till I get to the Sbemails. {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 19:33, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Let's go back to not-on-the-site subs. I once tried to go to [http://subtitles.hrwiki.org/marshmallow2/en subtitles.hrwiki.org/marshmallow2/en]. The place where the toon should be was all white and the "subs" just said "loading flash". I looked at the HTML source, and all the lines are correct, but it thinks that the SWF file is still on homestarrunner.com. Is there a way to fix this so it knows that it's on the mirror? {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 19:28, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

== A little tool to help translating subtitles ==

Hi everyone! 
As part of the subtitles project, I'm trying to translate the toons and everything else in French, but, like any other project, that's not easy. To help me with this task, I created a little tool. I just finished coding it, you can find it here : [http://tailszefox.free.fr/homestar/subtitles.php5]. 
This is very simple : just copy and paste the English subtitles, and you'll have two boxes for each sentence : one with the English sentence, and another one when you have to translate this sentence. If that's not very clear, just try it yourself! 
More instructions are on the page, but for now, this is far from finished : there are still some nasty bugs, who prevent it from being really useful. If someone here knows how to resolve encoding problems with the loadXML function in PHP, I'll be very happy to hear the solution! 
So, from now, it's still in a beta stage, waiting for advices. No need to continue it and fix it if it's not really useful. Well anyway, if you're a translator, please try it and tell me what you think of it. 
Thank you for your time! [[User:Meuhcoin|Meuhcoin]] 00:12, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

:Whoa, this looks awesome! I'll mention it to a couple coding-savvy types around here and see if they can help at all with any of the bugs. Nice work! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

::Awesome! Seems to work just fine for me. That's a really good idea :-D What encoding problems have you got?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:57, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Thank, Trey and Loafing! Loafing, about the encoding problems, try for example with the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Subtitles:datenite/en Date Night subtitles]. Those subtitles contain the character "—" a lot, and if you submit it and look at the lines that have it on the first page, they're messed up (there is a "Â" on front of them). Same goes for accents. So, after that, it can't find the original line (because "At best it's a broom or a—" and "At best it's a broom or aÂ—" are different). 
:::I also noticed that the span tag is messed up, because of the quotes. The line <nowiki>"But for this, maybe I should drown them in... drowning them!"</nowiki> is cut before the end, once again because of the quotation marks. It's the same when there are quotation marks in a sentence.
:::Well anyway, I'll try my best to solve these problems. Thanks for you encouragements! [[User:Meuhcoin|Meuhcoin]] 07:32, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Before the first line of your PHP script, add <code class="plainlinks"><?php [http://www.php.net/header header]("Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8"); ?></code> – that should help with your encoding issues. As for the quotes, you've probably got something like <code>print "<input etc etc value=\"$something\">";</code> right? Replace that with <code class="plainlinks">print "<input etc etc value=\"" . [http://www.php.net/htmlspecialchars htmlspecialchars]($something) . "\">";</code> – that'll encode the quotes so that they don't break stuff. Great work, by the way! {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:42, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

:::::Hey Phlip! Thank you very much, your solutions helped to solve the problem. For the encoding issues, I also had to use some utf8_encode here, and utf8_decode there, but it works. htmlspecialchars worked for the quotes in text, but not for those in the span tag, so I replaced them with there code in HTML. 
:::::Anyway, the most important thing is that those problems are solved. I still have some issues to resolve, but they're minor issues. Thanks again! [[User:Meuhcoin|Meuhcoin]] 10:38, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::Hmm... I try to avoid using utf8_decode/encode as much as possible... they'll choke on any unicode stuff that's not in [[Wikipedia:ISO/IEC 8859-1#Code table|ISO-8859-1]]... if you set the headers right, you should be able to just leave the UTF-8-encoded stuff as is... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Unfortunatly, without those, accents and all are messed up. I must have done something wrong, I'll look into that. But for now, I didn't see any character getting messed up with this. If you find one that is, tell me so I can change that quickly! [[User:Meuhcoin|Meuhcoin]] 12:03, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

== Names' translations ==

I want to promote a fashion to translate subtitles. I'd really like to always keep the names and references to games like "StrongBad Zone" in english, without being transliteratted, for example: Strong Bad being "Fuerte Malo" in spanish; It doesn't preserve the spirit and essence of the cartoon!
Do I make myself clear? --[[User:Dicai|[Lt. Dicai]]] 03:03, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

:Yes! There is actually a very long discussion [[HRWiki_talk:Subtitles/Archive_1#Translation_of_Proper_Names|in the archives]] about this, with the result that names probably should stay English in most languages. Also note the last comment in that section :-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:34, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

::I think ''certain'' characters ''could'' be translated; characters that have descriptive names, or characters that were invented by other characters on the fly. For example, I have translated King of Town, simply because... well, he is the king of the town. There are a lot of places where I'm glad that I did translate KoT's name, it's been very helpful when trying to make certain jokes work. I've also translated The Announcer, Teen Girl Squad and all its members. I haven't translated and I don't support the idea of translating ''every'' character, especially Strong XXX, The Cheat, or Homestar.

::When I translate subtitles, I like to think the language layout, grammar, balance between standards and slang and those kinds of things as if the toon would be dubbed into the language by my subtitles, or that it was Finnish all along to begin with. Let me tell you; if a Finn did a cartoon, the last thing he'd do is give it and its characters English names. It just works better in Finnish, you can't beat that.

::So in conclusion, my opinion is to translate some if you like, but not all. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 10:12, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

== List problem ==

Uh oh. Ever since we changed the subtitles list to a special page, we can't add new subtitle videos onto it! I mean, [[Rap Song]] has subtitles, but it's not on the list! [[Bug In Mouth Disease|The good times are over]]!! {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 22:49, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

:Hey there! [[Special:Subtitleslist]] is automatically updated from the data on [[HRWiki:Subtitles/Data]], but they have to be added manually to the latter page. The last few updates hadn't been added to the list, so I went ahead and {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Subtitles/Data&diff=522488&oldid=521745 added them}}. By the way, any autoconfirmed user can add to this list, so now you can add updates to this page when new ones come out, and they should automatically appear on [[Special:Subtitleslist]]! Hope that helps, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:25, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Puns and plays on words ==

What about puns or plays on words? If we folowe* the standards exactly, we are forced to leave them unmodified when translating, which will often deprive them of any sense. Or are we supposed to remove them whenever possible, replacing them with bog-standard unfunny sentences?

<nowiki>*</nowiki>not to be mistaken with Marlowe
[[User:JudgeDeadd|JudgeDeadd]] 11:52, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
:That ''is'' a tricky problem. What's a representative example that we can discuss here? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
::For things like these I would like to suggest implementing some system of translation notes (comments in the form of subtitles explicitly left, and marked as such, by the author for the audience to read). After obsessively watching tons of Anime fansubs lately I've found them to be a great way of explaining why a joke is funny. Of course such notes would involve adding extra text that would be difficult to read if they disappeared right away (and only Greasemonkey users would be able to pause and backtrack to reread). Solving such an issue might be a little tricky. If we had a specific representative example we could use it as a template to iron out details. (I can't think of any off the top of my head either). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:15, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

HRWiki talk:Subtitles

2008-01-19T08:23:05Z

WP CEO: /* Language requests */

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{{Subtitles Talk Archive}}

== Language requests ==
=== Dutch (NL) ===

Would you please add NL to [[Subtitles:Languages]]? --[[User:Pdedecker|Pdedecker]] 11:18, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
:I just saw that NL has been added, thanks! --[[User:Pdedecker|Pdedecker]] 18:46, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
::Oh yes, I forgot to post in this thread. You're welcome! Cheers! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:21, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

=== Finnish (FI) ===

I would be quite eager to start out with Finnish subtitling cartoons, as I have absolutely nothing to do after I get home from college (weird, huh?). So if someone would add Finnish there, it'd be much obliged. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 16:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:You should be all set. Go crazy go nuts! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:35, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

=== Polish (PL) ===

What I said. [[User:JudgeDeadd|JudgeDeadd]] 04:34, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
:You should be good to go. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:06, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

=== Turkish (TR) ===

Could you add Turkish language to the subtitles, please? Peace at Home, Peace in the World [[User:85.107.249.107|85.107.249.107]] 11:05, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:I would be happy to, but tell me a little bit about yourself first. Do you intend to write the subtitles pages yourself, or do you just wish that Turkish was already available? If you mean that you're going to help write them, then why not [[Special:Userlogin|sign up for an account]]? It's free and has many benefits. On the other hand, if you just want to be able to read the site in Turkish, then we'll need to find a translator first. Please let me know. Talk atcha later! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:21, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
::Hello, do you remember me? Or an IP starts with 85? Don't remember? Then, look at subtitles requests and choose Turkish(TR) from the navigation menu? Yeah, I did what you say, and it passed some time, but I was looking continually the page whether a reply comes before you reply. And, that's your answer: I'm Turkish, and so, I can read and write Turkish subtitles. I know English, of course, but not all Turks. (Or some of them are know at least). Anyway, I want Turkish subtitles add to the list, and my goal is that HR cartoons have loved by Turkish kids, adults, and everyone. Is this wrong? Say if it is. Anymore, I already tested a SB Email cartoon. Look if you want. [http://subtitles.hrwiki.org/sbemail167/tr Here comes.] OK, I think it (my reply) is long enough. I talked you and if you want, you talk atcha later, too. Thanx. [[User:Homesturk|Homesturk]] 16:57, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Of course I remember you. Glad to see you created an account! I will enable the Turkish subtitles just as soon as I get a chance. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:11, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
::Turkish is now enabled. Start tranglin'! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:51, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

=== Italian (IT) ===

Italian is one of the most well-known languages in the world. I think it deserves subtitles. [[User:124.176.190.64|124.176.190.64]] 08:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
:See below. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:49, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

=== Japanese (JP) ===

This language is infamous for its bad translations into English - I think it deserves subtitles as well. I am also a fluent Japanese speaker. [[User:124.176.190.64|124.176.190.64]] 08:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
:See below. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:49, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

=== Chinese (ZH) ===

Another popular language! [[User:124.176.190.64|124.176.190.64]] 08:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
:We don't enable languages just because they're there. We have to have someone demonstrate that they're committed to working on translation. Why don't you [[Special:Userlogin|create an account]] and let us know what kind of input you can give and then we'll talk again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:49, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

=== Norwegian (Bokmål), code: NO-NB ===

I am Norwegian, and a huge fan of both H*R and H*R Wiki (for real, they are both on my [[Wikipedia:Russ|Russ]] card!)! I was hoping you could add Norwegian Bokmål (there are two official written languages in Norway). But you must know that my intention is to only translate, like, three to five of my favourite toons, just for fun. I honestly believe that as good as all Norwegian H*R fans know English well enough to make extensive site translation unnecessary (primarily because I would guess they are all in their late teens or older). But if you would rather prefer more serious contributions, I respect that. --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 08:23, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

== From Da Basement ==
''Copied from [[HRWiki:Da_Basement#Subtitles]]:''
<blockquote>

Some of us have started working on subtitling Homestar Runner Flash cartoons to make them accessible to a wider audience. I would like to know what the HRWiki folks think about this. Should this be a part of the knowledge base wiki? Should it be separate? Would you help? The subtitles are based on the transcripts from the wiki, so there is a strong connection already. The [http://hstarsubs.awardspace.com/ subtitles project] is still beta, but it should work with Firefox and Internet Explorer. Most subtitles have been donated by Phlip from an older project, and I and Elcool have done the international ones. Check it out and let us know.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:00, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
: I personally know one person who'd be interested in that... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:19, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
::I strongly support having some way to intergrate the subtitles files into the wiki. As a non-native speaker sometimes I need to go over the wiki transcript just to see what a word or two means. This way , it's already inside the toon window itself. Also, we could open the door for people with hearing problems who still want experiance Homestar Runner like the rest of us. Some flash artists like Weeble from Weeble and Bob and the people behind Too Much Spare Time Animation have already added subtitles to some of their toons. So If TBC aren't going to do it themselvs, we are here for them. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 22:26, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
: The .xml file for Exp Film's Commentary doesn't work. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:54, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
::Cheers, fixed the link. Also, listening to the commentary is currently not possible anyway, because of Flash security measures :-/ And I forgot to upload the experiment film subs, will have to wait until I'm back home.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:09, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
:::We need this in the [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|Greasemonkey script]], pronto. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 02:38, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
:Well, I showed it to the person I previously alluded. The biggest reason I got into H*R in the first place was because it allowed me to share the gift of Homestar with this person, who cannot hear. She says she likes the subtitled stuff better than the Wiki. "But no offense." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:09, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
::Seriously, you just made my day :-D {{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:27, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Deaf watchers, eh? I'd assume ''captions'', as opposed to ''subtitles'' would be more important then, yes? (For the uninitiated: subtitles transcribe the words, captions transcribe all the sound effects too.) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:38, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Take 'em as they come. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:49, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
:Okay, let's just say, hypothetically, I wanted to make one of these. How would I get the frame numbers to start/stop each line on? And how would I test it? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:06, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
::We haven't quite worked out the standards for subtitles/captions yet, so the format may change a little. But if you want to try it now, then here's how you do it: You need Phlip's Firefox [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|Greasemonkey script]]. This will give you a seek bar for Flash toons from Homestarrunner.com. It also displays the current frame number. Then you grab one of the XML files from the subtitle site, scoop it empty, and use it as a skeleton. You probably also want to copy the text of the transcript into this file and split it up into short sections or sentences that you want to display as one title. Then use the seekbar to find the first and last frame numbers for each of the sections. It gets easy after you've done it once or twice. And you get to know the toon pretty well. Also note that each character has his or her own colour code. I'll put a page online soon with some more detailed hints, and I'll come up with a way of testing the titles. — I'm still not sure where to put the page with instructions. Do people believe this should be an HRWiki project, or should it be separate? {{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Aside from the frame numbers, I'd pretty much figured that all out. I have the beginnings of a [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] .xml file, but without frame numbers. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:29, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Sound promising :-) I'll come up with a test page soon(ish). And you've heard that before, but... you should really be on IRC ;-) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:36, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I've never successfully managed to join IRC when a useful conversation is taking place. Plus, I have issues getting to it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:40, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Alright you guys, I finished the .XML file for Cool Tapes. [[User:The Mu/subtitleCoolThings|Ding!]] ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 03:04, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Is there a talk page specifically for this project? I thought of some things to discuss, but we'd flood Da Basement. I think there should be some sort of central Wiki page for this project, even if it's in a User space. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:38, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
: I'm not in the mood for IRC right now, but I figured I'd give an update. I have all of the text in my .xml file. I do not, however, have any frame numbers past the three Coach Z/Pom Pom scenarios. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:47, 26 August 2006 (UTC)<blockquote>
</blockquote>

== Translation Guidelines ==

<blockquote>Always start from the English subtitles. This saves a lot of time and work, because then, the frame numbers only have to be found once. Use the same <code>start</code> and <code>end</code> values for all languages.</blockquote>

Do we want to phrase it this way? I can imagine a scenario where this would lead to a poorer subtitling. First, if the English is not subtitled well, we're basically asking the translator to not improve it, which is, in a word, stupid. Second, there will be times when for the timing of a joke to work right, or for the reader to have sufficient time to read the subtitle, the <code>start</code> or <code>end</code> values may need to vary. Trouble is, I'm not sure how to word it. Thoughts welcome. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:00, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
:I'm not sure how to respond to question. I can give you a hazy answer, at best. Generally speaking, it is MUCH easier for a translator to take the original subtitles XML page and simply reword the idea being expressed by the text. As least for most romance languages word placement (in grammar) is similar enough that the right timing for an english translation will correlate with the right timing for an adequate translation. That is, when something is said in the english subtitles, the same thing should be said in the <insert favorite foreign language here> translation. Most english subtitles also go by transcript (I beleive) so if the English transcript is well-written, a skilled translator should not have much trouble conveying the same idea. What's left would be improper timing in the original english subtitle. If that is the case, those subtitles would need to be re-timed (or words re-split). Any re-timings can be fixed in other translations, while re-splits can be notified with a {{tl|fixtranslation}} tag, and a note in each translation's discussion. Again, as for timings/splits having to be different across translations I consider that to be an unlikely occurrence, and not necessarily a serious impact in translation quality. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:05, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
:I have also added a note suggesting that the translated toon be watched in order to make sure that the translation went ok. I figure if any inconsistencies arise they can be caught there and the translator can choose to change index times if need be. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:53, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

== RTL Necessary? ==
I guess this is more of a viewer implementation issue, but, according to the text:
<blockquote>*If your language is written from the right to the left, put <code>dir="rtl"</code> in the opening <code><transcript></code> tag.</blockquote>
Isn't the RTL property a language-dependent property? If so, shouldn't that be permanently set in the [[Subtitles:Languages]] file? That way:
*Translators that need RTL don't need to "remember to add it" every time a new toon is translated.
*Anyone feeling funny won't put "RTL" in some english toons.
I'm also sure no language has text that is RTL and non-RTL. The only time that I'd see RTL be changed is if non-RTL text is inlined with a translation (in a different language) of RTL text (or vice versa), something H*R I doubt will ever see. This would mean a per-line optional RTL field for the viewer. Anyway. I just wanted to put that suggestion up if it's feasible, that way the line I quoted can also be removed. (That would save E.L. Cool some trouble too ;) ) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:18, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

::I think you're right, it's a per-language property. And it is actually possible to choose an alternate direction within a subtitles script using a tag. I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle of changing the code, though ;-) Let's see what Phlip says.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:41, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
:::I was suggesting that the code handle both ways: the old and new, in order to avoid incompatibilities with existing transcripts, whereas allowing us to make newer sleeker ones! :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:14, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

== doc.documentElement has no properties ==

That's what it says when I try to access the subtitles via the external viewer under the Error Console. [[User:76.184.199.4|76.184.199.4]] 23:33, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
:Which browser are you using? And which subtitles are you trying to see?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:34, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

::Firefox, and all of them. [[User:76.184.199.4|76.184.199.4]] 12:21, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

:::Blast! You're right, it's broken :-/ It's past bed time for me, so it'll have to wait for now. Thanks for letting me know. In the meantime, you could go ahead and install the [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|Greasemonkey script]] for your browser. It displays subtitles flawlessly and has lots of other cool features (like a seek bar and a fullscreen mode).{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:28, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

== More Visible? ==

Since the purported purpose of this project (nice alliteration) is to help those with difficulty understanding the toons, perhaps it would be better to make them more visible on the pages of individual toons, or perhaps put a link to subtitles on the main page of the wiki. I accidentally stumbled up subtitles the other day while going through the recent changes, and if I, an avid wiki user, didn't see them except by accident, they may be missing their intended audience. Just a suggestion, take it with as big a grain of salt as you need.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 22:30, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
:I think that putting a link on the main page is an excellent idea. Where should it go? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:46, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
::Might I suggest a link under the "Browse the Knowledge Base" section, in the Miscellany subsection (if space allows)? Perhaps the title "Subtitled Toons" might be appropriate as well. Though a more prominent place might be more advisable. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:57, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

::I think this a great idea too. After looking through the various groupings of links on the main page, I didn't think it fit very well into any of the existing categories. So, maybe something separate, like including this somewhere on the main page:

:::''Want to enjoy Homestar Runner without sound? Check out our [[HRWiki:Subtitles|Subtitles project]].''

::That can probably be reworded better, though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:58, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

:::I was thinking about the same section as Stux. And if we're '''really bold''', we could add subtitles links to new toons in the whatsnew section... We could also announce the subtitles project on the main page like Trey suggested for a few weeks maybe? '''Important:''' let me fix the external viewer before we make it more public.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:02, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Do you mean alongside the "watch" link, adding a "watch with subtitles" link? If so, I was thinking of suggesting the same thing but refrained. The external viewer definitely needs to have the improvements that have been made to the userscript pulled over before we point people to it.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:15, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::I don't think it's necessary to put a link to each individual subtitles page of all the toons listed on the main page (especially since we prefer that people use the GM script). If we make the link to the project prominent enough, that should be plenty for now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:11, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

== Greasemonkey Incompatibility with Newer Firefox Versions ==

Not so much a problem with the Greasemonkey script as with Greasemonkey itself. Right now I'm running Minefield 3.0a4, and Greasemonkey doesn't seem to like any versions higher than 2. Is there any simple way to fix this without resorting to the whole "unpack, edit version, repack" thing, or ''is'' that the simple way? LEMME NOES. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 01:19, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
:I wasn't aware that GM even loads — I haven't tried Minefield yet. I assume you understand the implications of running alpha level software... one of them being can count on not everything working. (You can expect that from early ''betas'' even). Are you trying a similiarly bleeding-edge revision of GM? You could try using a copy direct from their development [http://svn.devjavu.com/greasemonkey/trunk/ source tree], might help.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 01:55, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
::The latest version still only works up to Firefox 2, but I tweaked the <tt>maxversion</tt> parameter and I'm good to go. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 04:37, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

== Browser Compatibility ==

{| border=1 cellspacing=2 cellpadding=2
! Browser !! Greasemonkey !! External Viewer
|-
| Firefox 1.5 || XP, Linux || XP, Linux
|-
| Firefox 2.0 || XP, Linux, OSX || XP, Linux, OSX
|-
| Firefox 3 ||- || -
|-
| Opera 9 || - || XP
|-
| Safari || - || OSX
|-
| IE 5.0 || - || -
|-
| IE 5.5 || - || XP, [http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page Linux]
|-
| IE 6 || - || XP, [http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page Linux]
|-
| IE 7 || - || XP
|-
| MSN Explorer || - || XP
|-
| SeaMonkey 1.1.1 || - || XP, Linux
|-
| SeaMonkey 1.5 || - || -
|-
| Netscape 7.2 || - || XP
|-
| Epiphany || - || Linux
|}
I've rewritten the external viewer, and now it reportedly runs in most browsers on several OSs. Yay! Thanks to DorianGray, Trey56, Lapper, Tom, Stux, Has Matt? and Dot Com for beta-testing it. If you have a browser/OS combination that hasn't been tested yet, please post the results below (including browser name and version as well as the operating system), and I'll update the box above (kudos to Stux for suggesting the table). Yay! The external viewer is finally doing what it's supposed to do :-D{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:41, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
:SeaMonkey 1.1.1 works, but what they've got so far for 1.5 loads the toon but not the subtitles, so we may wind up doing this all over again when Firefox 3 comes out. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 10:48, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, that's not until November or whenever. That's like decades in internet-years ;-) Thanks for testing, everybody! It looks like we've got a good coverage of browsers now.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:44, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
ACupOfCoffee: does this mean that neither viewer works in Firefox 3?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:29, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

== Pop-Up Video ==

This subtitles project is super and awesome and super awesome. I was wondering what people would think about using the subtitles framework for a sort of pop-up video-type commentary track. For instance, the script could tell you where to click for Easter eggs, and maybe run short fun facts. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:15, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
:This is an interesting idea, but I'm not sure the benefit would outweigh the expense on this one. What kind of mechanism did you have in mind for this? I dunno... We've done pretty well just listing Easter eggs and things on the wiki. Transcripts are pretty cut-and-dried most of the time, but including fun facts seems like it would just be opening us to having to argue about them in two places instead of one. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:43, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
::I'm not sure what you mean by what kind of mechanism. The subtitle mechanism. What expense would there be? I'm willing to do them. And maybe not fun facts. This stemmed from the fact that I can never remember when to click to get the Easter egg while I'm actually watching the toon. I think it would be neat to have an automatic reminder come up. (Also, if I want to see where to click to get an Easter egg, it's in the same place as what the Easter egg contains so I'm spoiled for it.) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 16:15, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Thanks for the compliment, Homestar Coder ^_^. I had actually thought about adding this kind of functionality for Easter eggs at the beginning of the project. I decided against it for several reasons: displaying popups over a Flash object is a much less stable solution than displaying text next to a Flash object. For example, it does not work at all under Linux. Accordingly, our Easter egg hints might often have to be lengthy descriptions on where to click. The timing for Easter egg hints would also have to be asynchronous to the timing of the subtitles, making our display code a little more complicated. Of course it's all technically possible, and probably not such a great deal to implement in a very simple and robust manner. How usable it would be is another question. I also believe that this would take away a great deal of the toons' charm. Easter eggs are supposed to be hard to find, and listing them in an article is already a great help. I suspect that making them even easier to find might make them somewhat boring. But that might just be me. I guess if I find some time in the next few hours, I could whip up a simple example where I replace the subtitles with Easter eggs and fun facts, just to see how it would be... I ''am'' curious.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:52, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
::::Cool, thans for the response. I guess the pop-up thing was misleading; I don't want actual pop-ups showing where to click, just text saying "click the word egg!" or some such. There aren't all that many toons where the description of where to click is that long or difficult. And yes, the timing of Easter eggs is asynch to the timing of subtitles; I was always thinking it would be a separate track, so you couldn't have any subtitles on at the same time. As for removing the charm... well, I actually came up with this idea when I was catching up on my toon-watching, and realized I had two choices to make sure I saw all the Easter eggs: hold down tab during the whole toon (annoying) or reading it on the Wiki, which immediately spoils the joke (most of the Easter egg comments are stuff like "click on the word egg to see Homsar cracking an egg on his head!"). {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 21:00, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::Hmmm, here's a rather un-sexy [http://subs.spacecactus.net/subtitles.php?name=sbemail65/en example for sbemail65].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:38, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::Well, I think it's pretty shiny. :) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 03:43, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::::That just proves that you're more of a coder than a user =3 I've added another variant of how to display an egg hint. Still not ideal... One thing that I noticed while coming up with the example was that fun facts are probably not going to work. They work well for music videos, but when you watch a toon, you will probably not want to read something that distracts you from what's going on.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 08:04, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Well, I totally did not remember that you could click the stacks of paper, and now I did! You're probably right about the fun facts though. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 13:45, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

== Singing ==
===Data===
As a test, who can see some of these symbols in their browser: ♩♪♫♬𝅘𝅥𝅘𝅥𝅮𝅘𝅥𝅯 ''♩♪♫♬𝅘𝅥𝅘𝅥𝅮𝅘𝅥𝅯'' (I can see the first 4, but not the last 3... I just put them in for completeness)... if they work in enough browser/font setups, perhaps we could use one of them instead of the ''(singing)'' tag in the subtitles... just a thought. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:19, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
:Same here, IE7 and Firefox 1.5 for Windows XP (SP2) and Firefox 1.5 and Safari 2 for MaxOS X (10.4.9). Incidentally, the italic versions don't look very good here (and in some cases are the same as the normal versions). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:22, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
:Same here (I'm at work, using Firefox 1.5 for Win XP (SP2)), but the second note of the non-italic version has the vertical line missing.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:43, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
::In the most recent version of Opera (W98), first 4 are same but non-italicized/italicized, last 3 are nothing. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:59, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I see "♩NN♬𝅘𝅥𝅘𝅥𝅮𝅘𝅥𝅯 ♩NN♬𝅘𝅥𝅘𝅥𝅮𝅘𝅥𝅯" in Firefox 2.0.0.6, N being a musical note. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 20:19, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

===Whether to do it===
I'd advise sticking with plain-English "singing" as that's obviously cross-platform. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:00, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

== Localized templates ==

The [[Template:subtitles|subtitles template]] is good in English, yes. But let's be honest: not too many English-speaking people, albeit if they know the foreign language, are going to watch the toon with some other language subtitles. Mostly the international subtitles are made for the people that don't speak English that well, right? Then why wouldn't we make a instructions template in that very language, then? It's good of course to have it in English. But there could ''also'' be another version in the subtitles language. This way the people that really need the subtitles (non-English speaking people) would know exactly how to see them. Good/bad idea? I don't want to take the power over this in my hands, because you guys know better. Thanks! --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 06:13, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
:I agree that there should be instructions somewhere for people in their native languages, but I'm not sure that's the place to do it. Since this is an English-language wiki, it takes at least a passing knowledge of English just to reach those pages in the first place. I'm not opposed to the idea, though, if others think that's a good place for such instructions. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:38, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I agree — instructions someplace for people who want to ''watch'' a toon with non-English language subtitles would be good, but the template isn't the best place. For the most part, the people who will look at the individual subtitles pages are translators, who should already know English well.

::<div id="pfargtl">What about a line <s>near the top of [[HRWiki:Subtitles]]</s> on the [[Main Page]] that says something like,</div>
<blockquote>
<center>''Want to view subtitles in a non-English language? Click your language for instructions:'' 
[[HRWiki:Subtitles instructions/de|Deutsch]] |
[[HRWiki:Subtitles instructions/he|עברית]] |
[[HRWiki:Subtitles instructions/es|Español]] |
[[HRWiki:Subtitles instructions/fr|Français]] |
[[HRWiki:Subtitles instructions/ne|Nederlands]] |
[[HRWiki:Subtitles instructions/fi|Suomi]] |
[[HRWiki:Subtitles instructions/pl|Polski]] |
[[HRWiki:Subtitles instructions/pt-br|Português do Brasil]]
</center>
</blockquote>
::Each page would have simple instructions on getting subtitles working, and probably some instructions on how to use the various options in the Greasemonkey script, etc.

::If we combine this with [[#More Visible?|adding a link to the subtitles project to the Main Page]], I think it could really help people get started watching Homestar Runner cartoons in their native languages.

::Well, just an idea, maybe there's a better way to do it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:23, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

:::I like that! Except that to get to that page, you would still need quite a spazzing English knowledge... Maybe a small boxie on the front page somewhere, leading to a quick introduction to the world of Homestar Runner and the wiki in each language (not exactly rewriting the wiki in some other language, just a few lines and a few lead characters, introducing Chapmans etc. - a ''summary'', if you like), combined with subtitles instructions and a list of the language's subtitles? So the users shouldn't be recycled through the Subtitles project page, just nice 'n' quick straight to business, you know? Just a thought. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 16:23, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

::::Ideas? Thoughts? Suggestions? Flames? Actions? Nothing? --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 21:45, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

:::::Sorry I haven't replied to this yet. I think this is an important problem, and we need to fix it. I've been too busy in the last few days to actually think about it. But soon, I'll promise ;-) Sorry for that. Blame the real life!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:32, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Alright, it only took me three weeks to actually read this discussion ;-) I think you are bringing up a very good point, Sysrq. Instructions in different languages on how to watch the subtitles would definitely be helpful. We have to have a good think about where to put them and how much we translate. As you guys have said before, to come to any page concerning subtitles, one has to have some knowledge of English. Now, if we assume that those subtitles help viewers with no or very little knowledge of English, should we create non-English pages that serve as the homepage / start page / entry point for non-English speakers? It kind of makes sense. People can link to / visit these pages directly without having to navigate through an English wiki. However, these pages should be confined to explaining how the subtitles work. Otherwise, we run the risk of starting to translate the whole wiki, and that's a completely different project. The next question would be if and how we translate the viewers themselves. Currently, the menus and text for both viewers are in English. I remember Phlip saying that it would be technically complicated to do this for the greasemonkey script, although I can't find that discussion right now. My suggestion is as follows:
# Create custom start pages for each language that explains how to view subtitles.
# Create a page like [[HRWiki:Subtitles/List]] that links directly to the toons / external viewer instead of the subtitles scripts.
# Add a translated help link to the viewers that point to the custom start pages based on the language of the script currently used.
I think that should be enough to bypass the wiki for non-English speakers.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:07, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

:I like it! The only thing I would add is a suggestion to add links to the translated help pages on the [[Main Page]] (something like [[#pfargtl|above]]) — sounds good! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:16, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
::Cool! I'm only now realizing that you already suggested most of the stuff I said ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:21, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

:::Meh, it sounds clearer the way you said it ;) I'm going to throw together a mock subtitles instructions page so people can get a better feel of what it might be like... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:24, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
::::Just a suggestion for the summary, we could just use the [[Article Sightings|Wikipedia entries in other languages]] where possible for the introduction to the website. That would save some translation work. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 03:56, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

:::::Okay, here's my version of the page that could be translated into other languages: [[User:Trey56/HRWiki:Welcome/LANGUAGE CODE]]. It needs a lot of work, and there are some incomplete sections. If anybody feels like editing it or making suggestions, go ahead. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:28, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

::::::Looks a-pretty-pretty good! However, I have some thoughts: Firstly, maybe Translating Subtitles shouldn't be so high, if at all there. If a person that speaks English well enough to translate subtitles would stumble across this wiki, they probably wouldn't visit (or at least think the world of) a page like this. Secondly, I think there should be at least ''some'' information about the world of H*R. When I first went to Homestarrunner.com, even watching "First Time Here?" didn't help too much. It's the wiki that really cracked it open for me. So, just the basics: who are the characters, what do they do, who does the website etc. Much like a short version of [[Homestar Runner (body of work)]]. I wouldn't also too much worry about translating the greasemonkey UI. Finns are used to the kind of instructions like "Click on the button that says this and this", no matter what the language is. And Trey's thing explains every function quite satisfactory indeed. But anyways, awesome work Trey56, and let me know when this is shined up enough to start translating it! --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 06:24, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

:::::::Ooh, good ideas. Maybe I can move the "Translating Subtitles" below the Greasemonkey script instructions. Also, what you mentioned about an "About H*R" section is a wonderful idea. Do you think the Greasemonkey instructions should be trimmed down? They ''are'' excruciatingly long right now... Thanks for the great feedback! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:28, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

::::::::I think it's only long because it's just an explanation on the check-marks. If we got rid of all the subheaders nad make it a bulleted list it will shorter in size. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:32, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

:::::::::No, the greasemonkey section's awesome. It serves as a sort of a manual, like in a very expensive TV: it explains every single little feature, but you'll only probably read it if you're very bored or seeking info about something particular. And if we translate the greasemonkey instruction titles like "Feature name in LANGUAGE ''(Feature name in English)''", they can find it instantly. Move the Translation part after the greasemonkey instructions, and put a few paragraphs about H*R on its old place, and we'll be all set as far as I'm concerned. :) --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 06:37, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

== Sub viewers ==

I love the subtitles viewer. Our version of Firefox is too old to download the Greasemonkey script. But just one thing. [[Why Come|Why come]] there isn't a viewer for the toons not on the actual site? For instance, there is no local viewer link in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] or [[A Jumping Jack Contest]]. [[User:Religious Corn|Religious Corn]] 22:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

:I guess it's a techincal limitation over how the viewer fetches the subtitle file, which is the page name on the Homestarrunner.com website. Or not. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 09:30, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

::Is it possible to add a viewer for these? [[User:Religious Corn|Religious Corn]] 20:51, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

:::Yes, it's possible and not that hard to do. I'm just currently really stretched for time. I'll put it on my long long list of things to do ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:07, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

One more thing...something is wrong with some other viewers. For instance, the viewers for [[A Jorb Well Done]] and [[The Luau]] have the wrong SWF names. The sbemail [[brianrietta]] does not have any subtitles. Just thought I'd let you know. [[User:Religious Corn|Religious Corn]] 22:25, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

:Ohhh, never mind. I'll just try to fix it myself, although I'm not quite sure how to fix brianrietta... {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 18:35, 25 September 2007 (UTC) 18:34, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

::Big Toons are done, next up are Shorts. I think I've figured out the problem with Brianrietta, but I'm not quite sure about it yet. Just have to wait till I get to the Sbemails. {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 19:33, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Let's go back to not-on-the-site subs. I once tried to go to [http://subtitles.hrwiki.org/marshmallow2/en subtitles.hrwiki.org/marshmallow2/en]. The place where the toon should be was all white and the "subs" just said "loading flash". I looked at the HTML source, and all the lines are correct, but it thinks that the SWF file is still on homestarrunner.com. Is there a way to fix this so it knows that it's on the mirror? {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 19:28, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

== A little tool to help translating subtitles ==

Hi everyone! 
As part of the subtitles project, I'm trying to translate the toons and everything else in French, but, like any other project, that's not easy. To help me with this task, I created a little tool. I just finished coding it, you can find it here : [http://tailszefox.free.fr/homestar/subtitles.php5]. 
This is very simple : just copy and paste the English subtitles, and you'll have two boxes for each sentence : one with the English sentence, and another one when you have to translate this sentence. If that's not very clear, just try it yourself! 
More instructions are on the page, but for now, this is far from finished : there are still some nasty bugs, who prevent it from being really useful. If someone here knows how to resolve encoding problems with the loadXML function in PHP, I'll be very happy to hear the solution! 
So, from now, it's still in a beta stage, waiting for advices. No need to continue it and fix it if it's not really useful. Well anyway, if you're a translator, please try it and tell me what you think of it. 
Thank you for your time! [[User:Meuhcoin|Meuhcoin]] 00:12, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

:Whoa, this looks awesome! I'll mention it to a couple coding-savvy types around here and see if they can help at all with any of the bugs. Nice work! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

::Awesome! Seems to work just fine for me. That's a really good idea :-D What encoding problems have you got?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:57, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Thank, Trey and Loafing! Loafing, about the encoding problems, try for example with the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Subtitles:datenite/en Date Night subtitles]. Those subtitles contain the character "—" a lot, and if you submit it and look at the lines that have it on the first page, they're messed up (there is a "Â" on front of them). Same goes for accents. So, after that, it can't find the original line (because "At best it's a broom or a—" and "At best it's a broom or aÂ—" are different). 
:::I also noticed that the span tag is messed up, because of the quotes. The line <nowiki>"But for this, maybe I should drown them in... drowning them!"</nowiki> is cut before the end, once again because of the quotation marks. It's the same when there are quotation marks in a sentence.
:::Well anyway, I'll try my best to solve these problems. Thanks for you encouragements! [[User:Meuhcoin|Meuhcoin]] 07:32, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Before the first line of your PHP script, add <code class="plainlinks"><?php [http://www.php.net/header header]("Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8"); ?></code> – that should help with your encoding issues. As for the quotes, you've probably got something like <code>print "<input etc etc value=\"$something\">";</code> right? Replace that with <code class="plainlinks">print "<input etc etc value=\"" . [http://www.php.net/htmlspecialchars htmlspecialchars]($something) . "\">";</code> – that'll encode the quotes so that they don't break stuff. Great work, by the way! {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:42, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

:::::Hey Phlip! Thank you very much, your solutions helped to solve the problem. For the encoding issues, I also had to use some utf8_encode here, and utf8_decode there, but it works. htmlspecialchars worked for the quotes in text, but not for those in the span tag, so I replaced them with there code in HTML. 
:::::Anyway, the most important thing is that those problems are solved. I still have some issues to resolve, but they're minor issues. Thanks again! [[User:Meuhcoin|Meuhcoin]] 10:38, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::Hmm... I try to avoid using utf8_decode/encode as much as possible... they'll choke on any unicode stuff that's not in [[Wikipedia:ISO/IEC 8859-1#Code table|ISO-8859-1]]... if you set the headers right, you should be able to just leave the UTF-8-encoded stuff as is... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Unfortunatly, without those, accents and all are messed up. I must have done something wrong, I'll look into that. But for now, I didn't see any character getting messed up with this. If you find one that is, tell me so I can change that quickly! [[User:Meuhcoin|Meuhcoin]] 12:03, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

== Names' translations ==

I want to promote a fashion to translate subtitles. I'd really like to always keep the names and references to games like "StrongBad Zone" in english, without being transliteratted, for example: Strong Bad being "Fuerte Malo" in spanish; It doesn't preserve the spirit and essence of the cartoon!
Do I make myself clear? --[[User:Dicai|[Lt. Dicai]]] 03:03, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

:Yes! There is actually a very long discussion [[HRWiki_talk:Subtitles/Archive_1#Translation_of_Proper_Names|in the archives]] about this, with the result that names probably should stay English in most languages. Also note the last comment in that section :-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:34, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

::I think ''certain'' characters ''could'' be translated; characters that have descriptive names, or characters that were invented by other characters on the fly. For example, I have translated King of Town, simply because... well, he is the king of the town. There are a lot of places where I'm glad that I did translate KoT's name, it's been very helpful when trying to make certain jokes work. I've also translated The Announcer, Teen Girl Squad and all its members. I haven't translated and I don't support the idea of translating ''every'' character, especially Strong XXX, The Cheat, or Homestar.

::When I translate subtitles, I like to think the language layout, grammar, balance between standards and slang and those kinds of things as if the toon would be dubbed into the language by my subtitles, or that it was Finnish all along to begin with. Let me tell you; if a Finn did a cartoon, the last thing he'd do is give it and its characters English names. It just works better in Finnish, you can't beat that.

::So in conclusion, my opinion is to translate some if you like, but not all. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 10:12, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

== List problem ==

Uh oh. Ever since we changed the subtitles list to a special page, we can't add new subtitle videos onto it! I mean, [[Rap Song]] has subtitles, but it's not on the list! [[Bug In Mouth Disease|The good times are over]]!! {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 22:49, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

:Hey there! [[Special:Subtitleslist]] is automatically updated from the data on [[HRWiki:Subtitles/Data]], but they have to be added manually to the latter page. The last few updates hadn't been added to the list, so I went ahead and {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Subtitles/Data&diff=522488&oldid=521745 added them}}. By the way, any autoconfirmed user can add to this list, so now you can add updates to this page when new ones come out, and they should automatically appear on [[Special:Subtitleslist]]! Hope that helps, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:25, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Puns and plays on words ==

What about puns or plays on words? If we folowe* the standards exactly, we are forced to leave them unmodified when translating, which will often deprive them of any sense. Or are we supposed to remove them whenever possible, replacing them with bog-standard unfunny sentences?

<nowiki>*</nowiki>not to be mistaken with Marlowe
[[User:JudgeDeadd|JudgeDeadd]] 11:52, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
:That ''is'' a tricky problem. What's a representative example that we can discuss here? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:47, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
::For things like these I would like to suggest implementing some system of translation notes (comments in the form of subtitles explicitly left, and marked as such, by the author for the audience to read). After obsessively watching tons of Anime fansubs lately I've found them to be a great way of explaining why a joke is funny. Of course such notes would involve adding extra text that would be difficult to read if they disappeared right away (and only Greasemonkey users would be able to pause and backtrack to reread). Solving such an issue might be a little tricky. If we had a specific representative example we could use it as a template to iron out details. (I can't think of any off the top of my head either). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:15, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

concert

2007-10-30T22:05:51Z

WP CEO: Edited one misspelling of sloshy (I uncapitalized it).

{{sbenav|175}}
[[Image:Sbemail175_screenshot.PNG|thumb|"I'll broaden ''your'' horizons!"]]

Strong Bad talks about how [[sloshy]] became one of his favorite, and then least favorite, bands.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Trogdor}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, [[Larry Palaroncini]], {{film|Homestar Runner}}, [[Mary Palaroncini]] (Easter egg), {{film|The Poopsmith}} (Easter egg), {{film|Senor Cardgage}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Bad's Laundry Room]], [[The Field]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Bathroom of the Brothers Strong]], [[Mud Baths]], [[The Space Machine]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, August 20, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 4:26

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm running through a field of emails! Paranoia! Paranoia!

<blockquote class="lappy email"><div>
subject: concert</div>
Hey Strong Bad, 
Have you ever been to a concert? If you have what type 
of concert was it? 
Your Dragon, 
Trogdor *smiley face*
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad's speech becomes distressed as he reads the signature.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Wipe that smiley face off your the words 'smiley face.' You do ''not'' impersonate The Burninator, got it?

''{As Strong Bad says this, a Trogdor sprite walks on the Lappy screen and burninates the email signature. The Trogdor Arcade Game theme music plays in the background.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Yeah, I go to concerts. Why else would I own a pair of Hollywood Boulevards?

''{Scene cuts to the laundry room, showing a pan-out of Strong Bad wearing a pink leopard-pattern bandanna and unusual shoes, different from the ones he normally wears }''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, hello, pleatèd boots. What are you all gussied up for?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Shut up, man! I always dress like this.

''{Cuts to close-up of Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm going to see Limozeen tonight. But I never heard of the opening band, so I'm gonna show up fashionably late. What are you all gussied ''down'' for?

'''STRONG SAD:''' I'm going to see a show tonight too. But I've never heard of the headliner, so I'm gonna leave fashionably early.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, those two things don't sound at all related. Bye loser!

''{Both Strong Bad and Strong Sad walk off-screen, cut back to Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Hey, guess what? They were related. Apparently, Limozeen was trying to expand their audience into people that ''{pauses awkwardly}'' went to college. So, they got this band sloshy to open up for them. But Limozeen ended up canceling because...

''{A paper labeled 'LIMOZEEN Contract Rider' appears on-screen}''

'''LARRY PALARONCINI:''' ''{drums in background}'' Our audience must be 94% hot young females with bangs higher than or equal to our own. ''{Drums get more intense}'' And also a deviled egg tray! ''{The words "Deviled Egg Tray!" appear hand-written on the contract}''

''{Paper disappears}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So, Limozeen just hung out in their tour bus and watched ESPN Classic all night, while sloshy played both sets. Needless to say, I was perplexed, and intriguéd. ''{pronounced "intregwayed"}''

''{Cut to The Field, at night. Strong Bad and Strong Sad are walking back home; Strong Bad is in his concert outfit while Strong Sad is wearing a sloshy T-shirt. sloshy can be heard in the background}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So, help me out here. Were they missing some members? Where was their lead guitarist?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Uh, that was the ''whole band.''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What?! You're not allowed to have a band with only ''three people'' in it! And something else suspicious. What happened to the bassist's sunglasses? Did the lenses fall out?

'''STRONG SAD:''' No, Strong Bad, those were just ''regular glasses.''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Shock and horror!

''{Cut to The Basement. Strong Bad and Strong Sad are playing an Atari game. Strong Bad is back in his normal shoes, with the unusual ones lying by the couch.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' But they must be like, a brand new band, right?

'''STRONG SAD:''' No, they've been around for five or six years now...

'''STRONG BAD:''' Then why haven't they grown their hair long yet?

'''STRONG SAD:''' I think those are just their haircuts, Strong Bad.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''Really?''

''{Cut to the bathroom. Strong Sad is brushing his teeth, while Strong Bad is just standing there talking, holding his toothbrush.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So somebody must've stolen their costume trailer, huh? Man, that's rough. They couldn't wear any of their spandex, or latex, or... Tex-mex...

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{takes toothbrush out of mouth to speak}'' ''{annoyed}'' They don't wear costumes. They were probably just wearing what they'd been wearing all day.

'''STRONG BAD:''' But... The music rocked.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{takes toothbrush out of mouth again to speak}'' Yes.

'''STRONG BAD:''' And they weren't wearing costumes.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{takes toothbrush out of mouth again to speak, and shakes his head}'' ''No.''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Huh... Interesting.

''{cut to a mud-bath area in the field. Strong Bad and Strong Sad both have towels on their heads and cucumber slices on their eyes. Strong Sad's stomach is sticking out of the top of the mud bath}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' There were no high leg kicks, or choreographed spin moves... And that one guy even had his back to us all night.

''{zoom-in to Strong Bad and Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's like they don't really even care about me. Like when they played that song called 'We don't really even care about you'?

''{Cut to The Basement. A sloshy CD in [[SeeDees]] is playing the just-mentioned song. Zoom out to Homestar and Strong Bad playing with [[Cheat Commandos]] toys. Strong Bad is wearing a sloshy T-shirt.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' And ''no'' pyrotechnics?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Nope. They just strung a bunch of Christmas lights over their bass drum.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{somewhat perturbed}'' And they still rocked?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, totally! And they can't be bothered to play solos, so they always leave a space to sing your own! Check out these ''mow do mows.''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Imitating an electric guitar solo. Homestar is, unsurprisingly, amazed at this feat.}'' Mow-do-mow, mow-do-mow, moodly-mow, moodly-mow, moodly-mow, meedly-meedly-meedly-mow, meedly-meedly-meedly-mow, mow-dow-do-mow!

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{walking up}'' Hey, hey! ''slosh-ay!''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''slosh-ay!''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You guys are ''so lame.''

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' And that's how sloshy became one of my favorite metal bands.

''{Cut back to show Strong Sad standing nearby, holding a sloshy vinyl record.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Uh, Strong Bad, I wouldn't exactly call sloshy ''metal.''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What're you talkin' about? Of course they're metal. Look at the facts.

'''STRONG BAD:''' No costume.

''{A costume appears on the screen, which is promptly X-ed out}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Short hair.

''{Long yellow hair appears, which promptly morphs into short brown hair}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...A logo that's not jaggedy or drippety at all...

''{A jagged, non upside-down rendition of the sloshy logo appears, which then turns upside-down and becomes the normal sloshy logo.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And songs that aren't about girls... Los Angeles... or good... times...

''{A CD appears with a track listing reading '1. Smokin' fine honey-child; 2. Sunset Strip(pers); 3. Party Patrol' appears, and then changes to read '1. ok fine; 2. unripe; 3. art troll'.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{record scratch}'' Hey, wait a minute! You tricked me! sloshy's not metal!

'''STRONG SAD:''' I didn't ''trick'' you, I was just helping you broaden your horizons...

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'll broaden ''your'' horizons!

''{Strong Bad grabs the sloshy record and slams it over Strong Sad's head, shattering it and leaving a piece embedded in the top of Strong Sad's head.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' And that's how sloshy became one of my least favorite bands.

''{[[New Paper]] slides down}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh... That sound... It's got no punch. You just kinda slither out, like a boring lizard's tongue. Let's try this.

''{Strong Bad pulls out a floppy disk and chucks it into New Paper. It sticks at the top of the screen.}''

''{New Paper prints some more, now saying 'How ya like me now?' A grinding sound can be heard instead of the normal paper sound, and plastic chunks fall from where the floppy disk is}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' There we go... We're good at least until you completely shred that disk.

''{New Paper retracts slightly. The grinding sound can be heard, and more plastic chunks fall.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*At the end, click on the word "favorite" to see a short scene with Senor Cardgage.
:''{Cut to the Field. Senor Cardgage is standing on a lawn mower. A bush is nearby.)''
:'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Why, hello, Miss Trela. Check out Senor Cardgage's Intregway.
:''{The Intregway logo appears beside him, then disappears}''
:'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Dump tell no mandy, ''{the words "Dump Tell No Mandy!" flash at bottom of screen}'' it's just a land mower turned bankways! If you help me buy it, I'll cut you in!
:''{Strong Bad eagerly runs over.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' I'll help you buy it! I'll help you buy it!
:''{Senor silently drives the Intregway offscreen.}''
*Click on the word "bands" at the end to see a [[Limozeen: "but they're in space!"]] cartoon.
:''{Mary sits in the Space Machine watching what sounds like basketball on ESPN Classic. Larry stands, watching as well with a displeased look. A whistle blow is heard.}''
:'''MARY:''' Wow! That Danny Ainge complains about every call! ''{begins eating what appears to be a basketball}''
:'''LARRY:''' I'm totally mesmerized by Kevin McHale's armpit haaair! ''{gestures wildly with his hands}'' Oooeeuuh! ''{punches the air with one hand}''
*Click on the reflection of Strong Bad's diamond at the end to see where the mud baths came from.
:''{Strong Bad and Strong Sad are in their "mud baths".}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Where did these mud baths come from? These things are awesome!
:''{The Poopsmith rises out of Strong Sad's bath, wearing a snorkel and goggles. Strong Bad and Strong Sad scream.}''

== Fun Facts ==
=== Explanations ===
*A [[Wikipedia:Rider (theater)|rider]] is a set of requests or demands that a performer sets as criteria for performance.
*The term [[Wikipedia:Tex-Mex|tex-mex]] (which Strong Bad incorrectly uses as a description of a textile) refers to several things, such as a style of cuisine, a style of music, and a railway.
*[[Wikipedia: pleat|pleat]] is a fold in cloth made by doubling the material upon itself and then pressing or stitching it into place.

=== Trivia ===
*[[Limozeen]]'s contract rider reads:
<blockquote>LIMOZEEN 
Contract Rider 
*114 cans of hairspray
*4 tubes of Leather Pants Remover
*Audience must be 94% hot young females with bangs higher than or equal to our own
*Jenga or Pictionary
</blockquote>
*The words "deviled egg tray" are added to the list in pen afterward.

*The [[Floppy Disk Container]] reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#ancient art of war|ancient art of war]]".

=== Remarks ===
*Strong Sad claims to have never heard of Limozeen, despite the fact that he watched a cartoon starring them in [[best thing]].
*This is one of the few times [[Decemberween#References to Christmas|Christmas]] has been directly mentioned in the Homestar Runner universe instead of [[Decemberween]].
*This email contains several of the increasingly less rare occasions of [[Strong Bad and Strong Sad's Relationship#Strong Bad and Strong Sad Getting Along|Strong Bad and Strong Sad getting along]].
*Strong Sad [[Strong Sad smiling|smiles]] twice in this email: first when mocking Strong Bad's outfit, and then when entering the room where Strong Bad is telling Homestar about sloshy.
*In the mud bath Easter egg, both Strong Bad and Strong Sad can see The Poopsmith, despite having cucumber slices on their eyes.
*Strong Sad either has a special left handed Atari 2600 joystick or is playing the game holding the joystick sideways, as a standard joystick has its button in the upper left hand corner.
*The spots on Strong Bad's bandana that form the leopard print are covering the creases in the fabric.
*The sloshy record that Strong Bad throws at Strong Sad must be made of shellac or some other substance, commonly used in making of older records, instead of PVC (which would not emit the "shatter" sound when breaking).
*Strong Bad claims that bands are not allowed to only have three members, but he is a fan of [[Taranchula]], which also has only three members.
*When [[hygiene]] was released the following week, the [[Main Page Message]] linking to this email was replaced with a "strong bad email" button instead of being removed to make room for the "new strong bad email" button.

=== Inside References ===
*The drum music that plays when Larry reads the contract rider is from [[coloring]].
*This is another reference to [[eggs]].
*"Pleatèd" is an instance of the [[-èd]] pronunciation. 
*Homestar is playing with figures of [[Fightgar]], [[Crackotage]], several [[Blue Laser]] soldiers and the [[Cheat Commandos Vehicles|Action Figure Storage Truck]].
*The Limozeen in Space Easter Egg includes an instance of [[eating non-food items]].
*The [[Wikipedia:Sunset Strip|Sunset Strip]] was previously mentioned by Limozeen in the song [[Because It's Midnite]].

=== Real-World References ===
*[[Wikipedia:ESPN Classic|ESPN Classic]] is an [[Wikipedia:ESPN|ESPN]]-run TV network showing reruns of sports events and other sports-related programming.
*[[Wikipedia:Danny Ainge|Danny Ainge]] and [[Wikipedia:Kevin McHale|Kevin McHale]] are two former [[Wikipedia:NBA|NBA]] players, and were teammates on the [[Wikipedia:Boston Celtics|Celtics]] for the first eight years of their careers.
*"Intregway" is a parody of the [[Wikipedia:Segway PT|Segway PT]], a personal transportation device.
*[[Wikipedia:Pictionary|Pictionary]] is a [[Wikipedia: board games|board game]].
*[[Wikipedia:Jenga|Jenga]] is a physical [[Wikipedia:Game_of_skill|game of skill]].
*The background music in the scene where Strong Bad and Strong Sad are playing Atari 2600 is from [http://qotile.net/marble.html Marble Craze], a homebrew game by [[Paul Slocum]].
*The scene where a triangular piece of the sloshy record gets logged in Strong Sad's head is similar to a scene in the zombie movie ''[[Wikipedia:Shaun of the Dead|Shaun of the Dead]]''.
*Sloshy's draping [[Wikipedia:Christmas lights|Christmas lights]] over their bass drum is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Weezer|Weezer]]'s [[Wikipedia:music video|music video]] for "[[Wikipedia:El Scorcho|El Scorcho]]."

== External Links ==
{{sbemailextlinks|175|12251}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}

Talk:Places

2007-10-11T23:20:05Z

WP CEO: /* More */

== Working in the Rejects ==
Okay here's one place where we are going to have to work in some of the old Rejects. After taking a look at the listing, I'm seeing some places that are mentioned in passing for maybe three seconds. I don't really know which one's we want to keep, but it's something to think about. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 10:53, 13 Aug 2004 (MST)

:Also, should rejects/misc. characters/places/things be attached to anything in particular? Or should they just be floating around the Wiki's ethereal plains, attached to us only by a category or two? I think the category thing could be enough, but with some of our younger users, that'd be really hard to police unless all the Misc. links were grouped in one place. Here we have the "Rejects" debate once again. Anyway, how about another section titled "Misc. Places"? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]

::You know what, I'm thinking if it's a place, it goes on the Places page. Maybe under a heading like "So minor, you didn't even know it existed" or something. That seems to be the mentality of the people who come up with these things. I picture them sitting in front of their computer thinking to themselves "Now, what's a place that absolutely ''no one'' else would think of including?" So okay, that would work with characters and places, but what about the "objects"? What do you think we could do with them? Some thing similar? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:30, 13 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::VERY VERY inside jokes? That's about all I can think of...Unless they float, but I'm not that fond of that idea. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]

:::Wait a second! I just had a cool idea! For those stupid misc. characters, we could have who?/where?/what? sections! On characters, there'd be a section call "Who?", in places there'd be "Where?" and in inside jokes we could have a "What?" section. Then it'd be pretty easy to keep track of things. Oh, I'm gonna also add a section on Characters for the stupid "not around anymore" characters. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 13:27, 13 Aug 2004 (MST)

::::Sure, the "who?/what?/where?/huh?" thing seems to fit the mentality I was talking about. Good idea. And it wouldn't confuse too much. And this way we can include all of the stuff, just to keep everybody happy. Nice work. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:50, 13 Aug 2004 (MST)

So I was wondering if it was intentional to leave out the vacation destinations from when Strong Bad was on vacation (like Two Cars, Tennessee and Historic Over There) It seems that if Dortugal is included it would be worth including places that were at least described.

==ABC Order==
Should the places be in alphabetic order? --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 19:19, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*When reformatting this page, I put the places in a loose order of importance, which is pretty arbitrary. While ABC order is okay, it would be nice if more important places could also float to the top. (For instance, in the Foreign Lands category, Peasantry is more important than Dortugal.) [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 19:26, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

Yay! Another gallery! Should I give this one to someone else, or do it myself? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 13:43, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Sure! Go ahead!--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 14:16, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Cool... {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:34, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Foreign Lands ==

The link to Far Off Lands from Foreign Lands is inappropriate, please see [[Talk:Far_Off_Lands#Far_Off_Lands_is_its_own_country...|this]] post for discussion.

== More ==

Do we also list minor places here? That show'd up like once? --{{User:the thing/sig}} 13:25, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

:: Yeah, or places that has merely been mentioned or just partly shown? Like the video store Strong Sad says he has been down to in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]], and Gluten Camp and Glutton Camp and Cool Tapes' topiary gardens from [[Weclome back]], and the Regrettable History Museum Strong Sad had been to as he calls Strong Bad in [[Lappynapped!]] and so on? --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 23:20, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

== Isle of Pom ==

Doesn't the Isle of Pom (not the [[Pom Pom, Too|toon]]) deserve its own page? I mean, it's been referenced in a few other toons. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:55, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk:New Paper

2007-10-11T22:03:59Z

WP CEO: /* No problems? */

==Anything Else?==
If anyone wants to correct my horrible grammer or ad more info, please do, and take a better screenshot, and thanks to Jay who created this page. I am also going to remove the stub marker, this is about all we know about the new paper.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 11:08, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Ink ==

The colours look a bit off at the bottom, is that normal for new printers? [[User:84.65.197.19|84.65.197.19]] 16:06, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, it is. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 20:49, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Shy Paper? ==

I think New Paper didn't go Preeow because it was too shy and needs some introducing. Whaddya think?
:This would be better suited for the [[Forum:|Forum]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:53, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

== Merge with [[The Paper]]? ==

Should the new paper really have it's own page? I think it should it be merged with [[The Paper]]. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 02:42, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:I think we should wait for the next sbemail to see what happens.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:52, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
::I agree, it's majorly premature to be having this discussion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:47, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:::If we have separate articles for [[Tangerine Dreams]] and [[The Cheat's iMac (2006)]] then these should '''not be merged.''' [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:54, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
::::If the n'''EW''' Paper sticks around, we need to keep both Papers seperate. They're entirely different objects, so they need their own articles. Besides, The Paper's article is quite long as it is. I don't think it should be extended any more. '''No merge.''' {{User:The Chort/sig}} 11:49, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::So can we remove the template? [[User:Homsar44withpie|Homsar44withpie]] 01:02, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
wait tell next sbemail and then we make a decision {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 16:39, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure that the inkjet printer is going to stick around. '''No Merge''' {{User:SantanaHomerunner/sig}}
::That's absolute speculation, however. That fact is unknown to us, which is why I suggest suspending debate on this until after another email comes out. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:16, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
: '''NEVER''' merge this article with [[The Paper]], New Paper is an individual, and it acts severly diffrently than [[The Paper]], plus for being the person who sent the e-mail [[the paper]], it would be forgeting that [[the paper]] e-mail never existed. Please don't forget it! {{user:Thewi2kbug/sig}} 21:03, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

==The Future==
I am wondering, how long is this article going to be called New Paper, how many emails need to pass until it becomes 'The Paper' and Papes becomes 'Old Paper'. Probably quite a few, since that one has been around 173 emails and this one has managed one :P --{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 11:54, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
:It'll be called "New Paper" as long as Strong Bad does the same, like he did at the end of [[the paper]]. If SB starts calling it The Paper, ''then'' we'll shuffle the pages. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:02, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
::When should we remove the "appearances" section? There's none at all for the original The Paper. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 04:36, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Probably fairly soon, since it looks like it is a regular feature (though, how long will Strong Bad will abuse it is anybody's guess). At very least, creating a filmography might not be a bad idea before too much further (it has not crossed the 3 appearance threshold). {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 17:41, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
::::That's 4 emails now. Is that what you meant by "crossing the 3 appearance threshold?" [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:29, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

== Filmography ==

Why does New Paper get one while the old The Paper does not? Should the New Paper Filmography be deleted? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:44, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:'''Agree''' If the Old Papes dosn't why should the New Paper? {{User:Numa Numa/sig}}
::'''Agree''' I should've checked if The Paper had a filmography before going ahead with the suggestions above. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:54, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Gone'd it is.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:56, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Now that we've offed the filmography, should we be even listing the appearances of New Paper? I would think that a mention of the foreshadowing and the official debut in the article should be enough. Otherwise, we run into the same problem that the filmography was created to solve, a long list of emails. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 04:34, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. The structure of this article will probably eventually be like [[The Paper]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:36, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

== You know... ==
I was thinking and, if the new paper is running out of ink, wouldn't the top of the paper be lighter and different colors instead of the bottom, because the new paper wouldn't be gaining ink as it prints out? A possible goof/remark/fun fact?--{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 02:26, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, you're right. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 03:08, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
::So...--{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 03:12, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:::So it should be mentioned somewhere on the page. I was not acting so that you would do it. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 03:16, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
::::How do you think i should word it?--{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 22:09, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::Well? --{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 14:25, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::Just word it out. If there's anything wrong with it our horde of gnomes will take care of it. If some told you what to write, then he or she would have wrote it themselves. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:33, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Well, how do we know it's running out of ink? Could it just be a really cool fade effect? {{User:ClubPenguin923/sig}}

== Running Joke ==

Not counting it's inception in [[the paper]], there have now been 4 times in a row where Strong Bad has commented on the new paper's poor performance. This has never happened in the past with new characters or new computers. Should we officially label this as a running gag or something like that? It almost seems like it's leading up to something, like [[DNA evidence (running gag)|DNA evidence]].--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 02:59, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. It has very strong similarities to the DNA evidence gag. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
::I agree that it is certainly noticeable. Strong Bad even comments on it. But I don't believe that it should have its own article. It's something inherently linked to the New Paper, and should be a section in this article.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

== Landscape? ==

I was watching [[original]], and I noticed that the New Paper seems to be printing in landscape format, or it sliced the page off half way through... --[[User:NightDaemon|NightDaemon]] 19:45, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

== Time and space-transcending ==

Seems like the New Paper hasn't managed to pull off everything that the Old Paper has. We haven't yet seen it anywhere except above the Lappy. Even when emails (like [[pizza joint]]) end elsewhere. [[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]] 01:59, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

:You haven't waited to see the very end of [[mini-golf]] (where New Paper really does appear above the couch), have you? --[[User:Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]] 00:19, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
::Ah, right. Forgot about that one... [[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]] 09:48, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

== No problems? ==

The article states that "From [[pizza joint]] onward, New Paper has managed to print itself out without any problems, setbacks, or criticisms". This is not ''entirely'' true, as it in [[web comics]] came down twice, the first time being, from my point of view, odd and out-of-place. I think this should be mentioned in the article.
--[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 21:56, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:Not at all. That one was emphasising the joke that comics where readers generate the content are "a copout", which is essentially what Strong Bad Email ''is''. New Paper showed the email address to emphasise this point. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:59, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

::Ah, off course! I guess I am a bit on the slow side.. --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 22:02, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk:New Paper

2007-10-11T22:03:12Z

WP CEO: /* No problems? */

==Anything Else?==
If anyone wants to correct my horrible grammer or ad more info, please do, and take a better screenshot, and thanks to Jay who created this page. I am also going to remove the stub marker, this is about all we know about the new paper.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 11:08, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Ink ==

The colours look a bit off at the bottom, is that normal for new printers? [[User:84.65.197.19|84.65.197.19]] 16:06, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, it is. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 20:49, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Shy Paper? ==

I think New Paper didn't go Preeow because it was too shy and needs some introducing. Whaddya think?
:This would be better suited for the [[Forum:|Forum]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:53, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

== Merge with [[The Paper]]? ==

Should the new paper really have it's own page? I think it should it be merged with [[The Paper]]. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 02:42, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:I think we should wait for the next sbemail to see what happens.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:52, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
::I agree, it's majorly premature to be having this discussion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:47, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:::If we have separate articles for [[Tangerine Dreams]] and [[The Cheat's iMac (2006)]] then these should '''not be merged.''' [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:54, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
::::If the n'''EW''' Paper sticks around, we need to keep both Papers seperate. They're entirely different objects, so they need their own articles. Besides, The Paper's article is quite long as it is. I don't think it should be extended any more. '''No merge.''' {{User:The Chort/sig}} 11:49, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::So can we remove the template? [[User:Homsar44withpie|Homsar44withpie]] 01:02, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
wait tell next sbemail and then we make a decision {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 16:39, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure that the inkjet printer is going to stick around. '''No Merge''' {{User:SantanaHomerunner/sig}}
::That's absolute speculation, however. That fact is unknown to us, which is why I suggest suspending debate on this until after another email comes out. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:16, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
: '''NEVER''' merge this article with [[The Paper]], New Paper is an individual, and it acts severly diffrently than [[The Paper]], plus for being the person who sent the e-mail [[the paper]], it would be forgeting that [[the paper]] e-mail never existed. Please don't forget it! {{user:Thewi2kbug/sig}} 21:03, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

==The Future==
I am wondering, how long is this article going to be called New Paper, how many emails need to pass until it becomes 'The Paper' and Papes becomes 'Old Paper'. Probably quite a few, since that one has been around 173 emails and this one has managed one :P --{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 11:54, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
:It'll be called "New Paper" as long as Strong Bad does the same, like he did at the end of [[the paper]]. If SB starts calling it The Paper, ''then'' we'll shuffle the pages. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:02, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
::When should we remove the "appearances" section? There's none at all for the original The Paper. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 04:36, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Probably fairly soon, since it looks like it is a regular feature (though, how long will Strong Bad will abuse it is anybody's guess). At very least, creating a filmography might not be a bad idea before too much further (it has not crossed the 3 appearance threshold). {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 17:41, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
::::That's 4 emails now. Is that what you meant by "crossing the 3 appearance threshold?" [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:29, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

== Filmography ==

Why does New Paper get one while the old The Paper does not? Should the New Paper Filmography be deleted? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:44, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:'''Agree''' If the Old Papes dosn't why should the New Paper? {{User:Numa Numa/sig}}
::'''Agree''' I should've checked if The Paper had a filmography before going ahead with the suggestions above. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:54, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Gone'd it is.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:56, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Now that we've offed the filmography, should we be even listing the appearances of New Paper? I would think that a mention of the foreshadowing and the official debut in the article should be enough. Otherwise, we run into the same problem that the filmography was created to solve, a long list of emails. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 04:34, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. The structure of this article will probably eventually be like [[The Paper]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:36, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

== You know... ==
I was thinking and, if the new paper is running out of ink, wouldn't the top of the paper be lighter and different colors instead of the bottom, because the new paper wouldn't be gaining ink as it prints out? A possible goof/remark/fun fact?--{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 02:26, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, you're right. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 03:08, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
::So...--{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 03:12, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:::So it should be mentioned somewhere on the page. I was not acting so that you would do it. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 03:16, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
::::How do you think i should word it?--{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 22:09, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::Well? --{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 14:25, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::Just word it out. If there's anything wrong with it our horde of gnomes will take care of it. If some told you what to write, then he or she would have wrote it themselves. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:33, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Well, how do we know it's running out of ink? Could it just be a really cool fade effect? {{User:ClubPenguin923/sig}}

== Running Joke ==

Not counting it's inception in [[the paper]], there have now been 4 times in a row where Strong Bad has commented on the new paper's poor performance. This has never happened in the past with new characters or new computers. Should we officially label this as a running gag or something like that? It almost seems like it's leading up to something, like [[DNA evidence (running gag)|DNA evidence]].--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 02:59, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. It has very strong similarities to the DNA evidence gag. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
::I agree that it is certainly noticeable. Strong Bad even comments on it. But I don't believe that it should have its own article. It's something inherently linked to the New Paper, and should be a section in this article.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

== Landscape? ==

I was watching [[original]], and I noticed that the New Paper seems to be printing in landscape format, or it sliced the page off half way through... --[[User:NightDaemon|NightDaemon]] 19:45, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

== Time and space-transcending ==

Seems like the New Paper hasn't managed to pull off everything that the Old Paper has. We haven't yet seen it anywhere except above the Lappy. Even when emails (like [[pizza joint]]) end elsewhere. [[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]] 01:59, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

:You haven't waited to see the very end of [[mini-golf]] (where New Paper really does appear above the couch), have you? --[[User:Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]] 00:19, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
::Ah, right. Forgot about that one... [[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]] 09:48, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

== No problems? ==

The article states that "From [[pizza joint]] onward, New Paper has managed to print itself out without any problems, setbacks, or criticisms". This is not ''entirely'' true, as it in [[web comics]] came down twice, the first time being, from my point of view, odd and out-of-place. I think this should be mentioned in the article.
--[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 21:56, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:Not at all. That one was emphasising the joke that comics where readers generate the content are "a copout", which is essentially what Strong Bad Email ''is''. New Paper showed the email address to emphasise this point. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:59, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

::Ah, of course! I guess I am a bit on the slow side.. --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 22:02, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk:New Paper

2007-10-11T22:02:33Z

WP CEO: /* No problems? */

==Anything Else?==
If anyone wants to correct my horrible grammer or ad more info, please do, and take a better screenshot, and thanks to Jay who created this page. I am also going to remove the stub marker, this is about all we know about the new paper.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 11:08, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Ink ==

The colours look a bit off at the bottom, is that normal for new printers? [[User:84.65.197.19|84.65.197.19]] 16:06, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, it is. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 20:49, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Shy Paper? ==

I think New Paper didn't go Preeow because it was too shy and needs some introducing. Whaddya think?
:This would be better suited for the [[Forum:|Forum]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:53, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

== Merge with [[The Paper]]? ==

Should the new paper really have it's own page? I think it should it be merged with [[The Paper]]. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 02:42, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:I think we should wait for the next sbemail to see what happens.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:52, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
::I agree, it's majorly premature to be having this discussion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:47, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:::If we have separate articles for [[Tangerine Dreams]] and [[The Cheat's iMac (2006)]] then these should '''not be merged.''' [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:54, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
::::If the n'''EW''' Paper sticks around, we need to keep both Papers seperate. They're entirely different objects, so they need their own articles. Besides, The Paper's article is quite long as it is. I don't think it should be extended any more. '''No merge.''' {{User:The Chort/sig}} 11:49, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::So can we remove the template? [[User:Homsar44withpie|Homsar44withpie]] 01:02, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
wait tell next sbemail and then we make a decision {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 16:39, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure that the inkjet printer is going to stick around. '''No Merge''' {{User:SantanaHomerunner/sig}}
::That's absolute speculation, however. That fact is unknown to us, which is why I suggest suspending debate on this until after another email comes out. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:16, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
: '''NEVER''' merge this article with [[The Paper]], New Paper is an individual, and it acts severly diffrently than [[The Paper]], plus for being the person who sent the e-mail [[the paper]], it would be forgeting that [[the paper]] e-mail never existed. Please don't forget it! {{user:Thewi2kbug/sig}} 21:03, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

==The Future==
I am wondering, how long is this article going to be called New Paper, how many emails need to pass until it becomes 'The Paper' and Papes becomes 'Old Paper'. Probably quite a few, since that one has been around 173 emails and this one has managed one :P --{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 11:54, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
:It'll be called "New Paper" as long as Strong Bad does the same, like he did at the end of [[the paper]]. If SB starts calling it The Paper, ''then'' we'll shuffle the pages. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:02, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
::When should we remove the "appearances" section? There's none at all for the original The Paper. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 04:36, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Probably fairly soon, since it looks like it is a regular feature (though, how long will Strong Bad will abuse it is anybody's guess). At very least, creating a filmography might not be a bad idea before too much further (it has not crossed the 3 appearance threshold). {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 17:41, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
::::That's 4 emails now. Is that what you meant by "crossing the 3 appearance threshold?" [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:29, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

== Filmography ==

Why does New Paper get one while the old The Paper does not? Should the New Paper Filmography be deleted? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:44, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:'''Agree''' If the Old Papes dosn't why should the New Paper? {{User:Numa Numa/sig}}
::'''Agree''' I should've checked if The Paper had a filmography before going ahead with the suggestions above. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:54, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Gone'd it is.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:56, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Now that we've offed the filmography, should we be even listing the appearances of New Paper? I would think that a mention of the foreshadowing and the official debut in the article should be enough. Otherwise, we run into the same problem that the filmography was created to solve, a long list of emails. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 04:34, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. The structure of this article will probably eventually be like [[The Paper]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:36, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

== You know... ==
I was thinking and, if the new paper is running out of ink, wouldn't the top of the paper be lighter and different colors instead of the bottom, because the new paper wouldn't be gaining ink as it prints out? A possible goof/remark/fun fact?--{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 02:26, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, you're right. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 03:08, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
::So...--{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 03:12, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:::So it should be mentioned somewhere on the page. I was not acting so that you would do it. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 03:16, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
::::How do you think i should word it?--{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 22:09, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::Well? --{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 14:25, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::Just word it out. If there's anything wrong with it our horde of gnomes will take care of it. If some told you what to write, then he or she would have wrote it themselves. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:33, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Well, how do we know it's running out of ink? Could it just be a really cool fade effect? {{User:ClubPenguin923/sig}}

== Running Joke ==

Not counting it's inception in [[the paper]], there have now been 4 times in a row where Strong Bad has commented on the new paper's poor performance. This has never happened in the past with new characters or new computers. Should we officially label this as a running gag or something like that? It almost seems like it's leading up to something, like [[DNA evidence (running gag)|DNA evidence]].--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 02:59, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. It has very strong similarities to the DNA evidence gag. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
::I agree that it is certainly noticeable. Strong Bad even comments on it. But I don't believe that it should have its own article. It's something inherently linked to the New Paper, and should be a section in this article.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

== Landscape? ==

I was watching [[original]], and I noticed that the New Paper seems to be printing in landscape format, or it sliced the page off half way through... --[[User:NightDaemon|NightDaemon]] 19:45, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

== Time and space-transcending ==

Seems like the New Paper hasn't managed to pull off everything that the Old Paper has. We haven't yet seen it anywhere except above the Lappy. Even when emails (like [[pizza joint]]) end elsewhere. [[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]] 01:59, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

:You haven't waited to see the very end of [[mini-golf]] (where New Paper really does appear above the couch), have you? --[[User:Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]] 00:19, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
::Ah, right. Forgot about that one... [[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]] 09:48, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

== No problems? ==

The article states that "From [[pizza joint]] onward, New Paper has managed to print itself out without any problems, setbacks, or criticisms". This is not ''entirely'' true, as it in [[web comics]] came down twice, the first time being, from my point of view, odd and out-of-place. I think this should be mentioned in the article.
--[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 21:56, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:Not at all. That one was emphasising the joke that comics where readers generate the content are "a copout", which is essentially what Strong Bad Email ''is''. New Paper showed the email address to emphasise this point. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:59, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:Ah, of course! I guess I am a bit on the slow side.. --[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 22:02, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk:New Paper

2007-10-11T21:57:42Z

WP CEO: /* No problems? */

Talk:New Paper

2007-10-11T21:56:47Z

WP CEO: /**/No problems?

==Anything Else?==
If anyone wants to correct my horrible grammer or ad more info, please do, and take a better screenshot, and thanks to Jay who created this page. I am also going to remove the stub marker, this is about all we know about the new paper.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 11:08, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Ink ==

The colours look a bit off at the bottom, is that normal for new printers? [[User:84.65.197.19|84.65.197.19]] 16:06, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, it is. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 20:49, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Shy Paper? ==

I think New Paper didn't go Preeow because it was too shy and needs some introducing. Whaddya think?
:This would be better suited for the [[Forum:|Forum]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:53, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

== Merge with [[The Paper]]? ==

Should the new paper really have it's own page? I think it should it be merged with [[The Paper]]. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 02:42, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:I think we should wait for the next sbemail to see what happens.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:52, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
::I agree, it's majorly premature to be having this discussion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:47, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:::If we have separate articles for [[Tangerine Dreams]] and [[The Cheat's iMac (2006)]] then these should '''not be merged.''' [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:54, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
::::If the n'''EW''' Paper sticks around, we need to keep both Papers seperate. They're entirely different objects, so they need their own articles. Besides, The Paper's article is quite long as it is. I don't think it should be extended any more. '''No merge.''' {{User:The Chort/sig}} 11:49, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::So can we remove the template? [[User:Homsar44withpie|Homsar44withpie]] 01:02, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
wait tell next sbemail and then we make a decision {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 16:39, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure that the inkjet printer is going to stick around. '''No Merge''' {{User:SantanaHomerunner/sig}}
::That's absolute speculation, however. That fact is unknown to us, which is why I suggest suspending debate on this until after another email comes out. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:16, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
: '''NEVER''' merge this article with [[The Paper]], New Paper is an individual, and it acts severly diffrently than [[The Paper]], plus for being the person who sent the e-mail [[the paper]], it would be forgeting that [[the paper]] e-mail never existed. Please don't forget it! {{user:Thewi2kbug/sig}} 21:03, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

==The Future==
I am wondering, how long is this article going to be called New Paper, how many emails need to pass until it becomes 'The Paper' and Papes becomes 'Old Paper'. Probably quite a few, since that one has been around 173 emails and this one has managed one :P --{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 11:54, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
:It'll be called "New Paper" as long as Strong Bad does the same, like he did at the end of [[the paper]]. If SB starts calling it The Paper, ''then'' we'll shuffle the pages. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:02, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
::When should we remove the "appearances" section? There's none at all for the original The Paper. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 04:36, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Probably fairly soon, since it looks like it is a regular feature (though, how long will Strong Bad will abuse it is anybody's guess). At very least, creating a filmography might not be a bad idea before too much further (it has not crossed the 3 appearance threshold). {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 17:41, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
::::That's 4 emails now. Is that what you meant by "crossing the 3 appearance threshold?" [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:29, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

== Filmography ==

Why does New Paper get one while the old The Paper does not? Should the New Paper Filmography be deleted? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:44, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:'''Agree''' If the Old Papes dosn't why should the New Paper? {{User:Numa Numa/sig}}
::'''Agree''' I should've checked if The Paper had a filmography before going ahead with the suggestions above. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:54, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Gone'd it is.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:56, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Now that we've offed the filmography, should we be even listing the appearances of New Paper? I would think that a mention of the foreshadowing and the official debut in the article should be enough. Otherwise, we run into the same problem that the filmography was created to solve, a long list of emails. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 04:34, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. The structure of this article will probably eventually be like [[The Paper]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:36, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

== You know... ==
I was thinking and, if the new paper is running out of ink, wouldn't the top of the paper be lighter and different colors instead of the bottom, because the new paper wouldn't be gaining ink as it prints out? A possible goof/remark/fun fact?--{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 02:26, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, you're right. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 03:08, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
::So...--{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 03:12, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
:::So it should be mentioned somewhere on the page. I was not acting so that you would do it. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 03:16, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
::::How do you think i should word it?--{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 22:09, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::Well? --{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 14:25, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::Just word it out. If there's anything wrong with it our horde of gnomes will take care of it. If some told you what to write, then he or she would have wrote it themselves. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:33, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Well, how do we know it's running out of ink? Could it just be a really cool fade effect? {{User:ClubPenguin923/sig}}

== Running Joke ==

Not counting it's inception in [[the paper]], there have now been 4 times in a row where Strong Bad has commented on the new paper's poor performance. This has never happened in the past with new characters or new computers. Should we officially label this as a running gag or something like that? It almost seems like it's leading up to something, like [[DNA evidence (running gag)|DNA evidence]].--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 02:59, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. It has very strong similarities to the DNA evidence gag. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
::I agree that it is certainly noticeable. Strong Bad even comments on it. But I don't believe that it should have its own article. It's something inherently linked to the New Paper, and should be a section in this article.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

== Landscape? ==

I was watching [[original]], and I noticed that the New Paper seems to be printing in landscape format, or it sliced the page off half way through... --[[User:NightDaemon|NightDaemon]] 19:45, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

== Time and space-transcending ==

Seems like the New Paper hasn't managed to pull off everything that the Old Paper has. We haven't yet seen it anywhere except above the Lappy. Even when emails (like [[pizza joint]]) end elsewhere. [[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]] 01:59, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

:You haven't waited to see the very end of [[mini-golf]] (where New Paper really does appear above the couch), have you? --[[User:Charlie Jr.|Charlie Jr.]] 00:19, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
::Ah, right. Forgot about that one... [[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]] 09:48, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

== No problems? ==

The article states that "From [[pizza joint]] onward, New Paper has managed to print itself out without any problems, setbacks, or criticisms". This is not ''entirely'' true, as it in [[web comic]] came down twice, the first time being, from my point of view, odd and out-of-place. I think this should be mentioned in the article.
--[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 21:56, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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== Title ==

If this is indeed notable, then I'm not sure this is the best title. The title and the description don't match in my mind. Denial is not what this is really about in my opinion. It's more of just a type of lies. I dunno. Maybe there's really a larger category about lying that we can add this to, if not can we rename it [[Blatant Lies]]? - {{User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C/Sig}} 03:24, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
:I don't feel this is notable at all. We could just as well put up an article referring to every time a character says another character's name, or turns to their left, etc.
:: Yeah, [[Blatant Lies]] works for it. Then we could add in alot of stuff. Gonna see what others' opinions are, though. [[User:Dr. Clash|Dr. Clash]] 02:58, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
:::I can't put my finger on it, but there's something about "Blatant Lies" that I don't particularly like. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:34, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't know about the name, but I like the article's concept. Most of it is Strong Bad claiming he's awesome/popular with the ladies. Maybe a new subheader just for that? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:03, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
:That sounds like a good idea to me. There's a couple of pages for Strong Bad making stuff up already, though. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 08:15, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
I did get most of these from [[Strong Bad's Ladies]]. There are a few not on the ladies, though most of these are by Strong Bad. I'll try going through the Answering Machine and writing what's there, and divide the page into Answering Machines, SBemails, and toons. That might help. [[User:Dr. Clash|Dr. Clash]] 11:09, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
:Holy crapola! This has a '''lot''' of appearances. Even though it could go into other articles, I think this page is fine by itself. But there's ''something'' about this title that drives me nuts. It sounds stupid when I say it, but that could just be my accent...Anyway, we could call it Obvious Pranks or something like that if that sounds better. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 21:03, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
I know what ya mean, Shiner, but I think the title covers it. Blatant, which essentially means obvious, is good, seeing as the lies are fairly obvious to the viewers, and Lies covers the fact that the characters are lying. I don't think "Pranks" would cover SB pretending not to cry over a one legged dog. Any other ideas? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 21:18, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
::How 'bout Strong Bad Being An Idiot? No, just kidding. Maybe we can keep the title as is. It sounds wierd, but that's okay as long as it describes the subject matter well. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 21:24, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

== Pranks ==

Following up on Brightstar's comment about pranks: I don't think that pranks should be included in this article. Pranks are lies of a different kind than the other ones listed. It's also not very informative to basically have all MAM pranks listed as blatant lies. In my opinion this would be a really cool page without all MAMs listed.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:36, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, aren't the Answering Machine type lies already mostly covered on [[Obviously Phony Aliases]] anyway? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::<goes and looks> Uh..yeah. They ''are'' all covered there. We should remove the pranks and see how many are still just Strong Bad being wierd, ''then'' we'll talk about what to do with this page. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 00:01, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I removed the pranks. Looks good to me, so now what? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 01:06, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
:Mmm, looks fine to me. Good job with this page, Clash. I think it really turned out well. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 01:52, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Bad Skydiving ==

I added that in [[Weclome Back]] Strong Bad was blatantly trying to fool everyone into thinking that he had really done a midair e-mail check, and it was removed. I think it's at least debatable. Can you STUFF things in articles such as this? [[User:Hrjogger|Hrjogger]] 19:06, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
:Really? Coz it sure looked to me like he actually did it. He was genuinely annoyed that he mixed the stop and record buttons. He WAS in an airplane. And the camera sort of sunk to the ground as if it'd been falling. I think he really did do it. It's all a matter of perspective. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:09, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
::I have never been able to decide on this one. I can see it both ways. Note, though, that the title of the page is "Blatant Lies", and if it's debated whether or not it's a lie, that's a clue it's likely not blatant. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:24, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

== Delete ==

This doesn't seem to be a running gag even if the page WERE consistant and everything listed was a blatent lie. People lie to each other. Unfortunately that's how our world works today. It has no special meaning in the H*R universe. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 12:07, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
:Maybe not, but I'm pretty sure that the page is constant, and all the lies are more or less blat'''a'''nt. (The page title's right there.) I believe that the page serves a purpose, and, while it my be reaching for a topic, is still very valid. That's why I vote '''No Delete'''. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 13:53, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
::This is definitely a running gag. I don't need to tell you how many times the Homestar characters do this. <sarcasm>You might as well delete [[Strong Bad]], because that's how our world works: people make up characters for cartoons.</sarcasm> '''NO DELETE''' {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 14:32, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

== Strong bad ==
Strong bad is the biggest lier in the show. There should be a wiki for strong bads lies. He also lies about his age.

== A Folky Tale ==

Does anyone else think that when Bubs says "Ah, that was just Homestar" in the easter egg, that it's a total lie?
:No, that's the joke, you're expecting that it's coach z and it's not. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:24, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

== Lappynapped! ==

But what about the KoT saying he is "Furious Fingers from LA" in [[Lappynapped!]]?
I think that should be added.

--[[User:WP CEO|WP CEO]] 18:56, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

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