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History according to Strong Bad

0rion — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 04:24:34 GMT

0rion: /* highschool */ We'll make our dreams come true.

[[Image:Strongbadianthanksgiving.png|250px|thumb|right|Mysterious myths or legendary legends?]]
'''History according to Strong Bad''' is a tricky thing. Many times, [[Strong Bad]] presents things as historical fact that are either [[Blatant Lies|clearly false]] or that can't be verified. When relating legends, he often parodies actual historical storytelling techniques or attempts to [[Wikipedia:Historical revisionism (negationism)|revise history]] to make himself look better. He has also, on occasion, told what he has assured are future events, no matter how unlikely or far-fetched.

==Past==
The toons listed below exibit instances of [[Strong Bad]] recounting history that is questionable or clearly untrue.

===[[personal favorites]]===
Strong Bad is asked which Strong Bad Email is his favorite. Although Strong Bad says "[his] emails are like [his] childrens" (he loves them all), he proceeds to name his "personal favorites." While the first two emails he mentions ([[invisibility]] and [[gimmicks]]) exist, the rest have never been seen elsewhere. These emails include [[Bubs]] building a [[Grape-Nuts Robot|Strong Bad Robot]], Strong Bad "flying" [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] while drunk on soy sauce, and [[Pom Pom]] and [[Coach Z]] knife-fighting on the [[The Stone Bridge|stone bridge]]. As a result, so many viewers have tried to find the nonexistent emails that an answer was added to the site's [[FAQ]] on the matter.
*The [[Grape-Nuts Robot]] is later seen in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 8.0]] and [[hiding]].

===[[couch patch]]===
Strong Bad, [[Strong Sad]], [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] and [[Coach Z]] all offer their respective memories of how the patch of tape appeared on the [[couch]] in the [[Basement of the Brothers Strong|basement]]. Strong Bad claims it's there because he cut the couch open to make a hiding place for his "[[Aztec]] [[gold]]" (actually oil filters), but the inside of the couch smelled horrible, so he taped over the cut to stop the smell.

===[[colonization]]===
Strong Bad explains [[Strong Badia]]'s origins. Portraying himself as a [[Wikipedia:Pilgrims|Pilgrim]] persecuted by [[Strong Sad]] for his [[egg]]-ketchuping ways, he describes leaving [[Free Country, USA]] to set up a new colony in an empty lot behind the dumpsters, owned by [[Bubs]]. In addition, Bubs is portrayed as a "strange man who had strange ways and strange odors" with an appearance resembling that of a Native American. They later celebrate Strong Badia's first Thanksgiving at a nearby picnic table with some leftover [[Wikipedia:Hardee's|Hardee's]] burgers.

===[[flashback]]===
Strong Bad tells the story of how he and [[Homestar Runner]] first met in a [[Original Book|children's book]]. He also offers an explanation for the origin of [[The Cheat]]. After playing tennis on [[the Moon]] with Coach Z, Strong Bad returns to Free Country, USA and comes across a large pink egg, with Homestar Runner nearby. Homestar and Strong Bad get in an argument over who owns the egg, which [[The Prince of Town]] settles by proclaiming a ten-step footrace. Homestar wins, but the Prince declares that the loser gets the egg. Strong Bad and [[Strong Mad]] break open the egg, finding a lifetime supply of fishsticks inside as well as a fully-grown The Cheat. Homestar verifies Strong Bad's story, but it's implied that he thinks it's actually a fictional children's book.

===[[old comics]]===
Strong Bad is asked why [[The King of Town]] has a [[Poopsmith]]. In response to this he shows comic strips (over 60 years old) featuring The King of Town and The Poopsmith (then named "Mushy Chamberpot"). Strong Bad and Homestar make cameo appearances so that [[The Castlefunnies]] can mooch off of their popularity. Strong Bad does not clarify whether his appearance in the strip was an experience ''he'' actually had, or simply a representation of him. Nevertheless, the strip was canceled the following week or so when the sole remaining reader, a Civil War veteran and creamed corn enthusiast, died. Later, a "[[King Castlefunny Pencil Moistener]]" was released, but sales were low, as the Dry Pencil Scare of '47 lasted only three days. Also, Strong Bad claims the comma was first discovered by explorer and namesake [[Sir Loodabert Comma]] and his sherpa.

===[[origins]]===
Strong Bad is asked about the origin of [[The Stick]] and whether it had always been a good place for hanging out. Strong Bad refuses to explain The Stick's origin, but does elaborate on The Stick's "hanging-out-itude". Although The Stick is presently a good meeting place, such was not always the case, particularly when [[Homestar]] held his weekly "bread sing-alongs" there. [[The Brothers Strong]] put a stop to these by holding [[The Cheat]]'s "rhythmic chain dancing recitals" at the same time and location. After Homestar's sing-alongs' popularity faded and Strong Mad ate The Cheat's chainwhip, The Stick was the perfect spot for harrassing [[Marzipan]] and [[Homsar]]. Meanwhile, the Brothers Strong and The Cheat moved to an area behind Bubs' Concession Stand, where they named themselves the [[On Point Kings]], had nothing to do with guff, and, ultimately, stole [[The King of Town]]'s dunce cap, renaming it Lotionman. Strong Bad also claims he drilled the belly button into [[Strong Sad]] when he was younger and that [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] was founded after it fell on [[Mr. Bland]] and [[Señor]]. Strong Sad verifies the incident involving the drill (allbeit from within the fabricated history) with his answer "Waah! No sir! Heck no at all!" to Strong Bad's question (after holding up a power drill) "You want another belly button there, Harry Elephanté?".

===[[lady...ing]]===
Strong Bad is asked something that he thinks he has been asked before: given his knowledge on the ladies, can he provide any tips on lady...ing. He states this might be the first email he ever checked, and The Cheat answers this by playing it on a laserdisc. The email is presented in the same style as [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]], as well as the same boxing ring, in which Strong Bad answers this question, asked by Fabrosi. Strong Bad claims not to have competition where the ladies are concerned. He then proceeds to explain the lowdown on lady...ing, with questionable results. In an Easter egg, Homestar partially takes some of the advice from the toon.

===[[geddup noise]]===
Marc Baroni asks Strong Bad what happened to the "get up noise" his chair made when he got up. After confirming that its true name is [[The Geddup Noise]], Strong Bad recalls that the Geddup Noise started acquiring fame around the time of the creation of sbemail 84 ([[kids' book]]). Eventually, it became popular enough to guest star on [[The Show]] and [[Radio Stations and Shows#The AM Morning "CRUDE" Crew|The AM Morning "CRUDE" Crew]], among other shows. The Cheat remixed The Geddup Noise for dance clubs, and characters such as [[The King of Town]] and Strong Bad tried to make cheap knock-offs, including "The Standing Up Noise" and "The Git Outcha Seat Sound", respectively. Eventually, The Geddup Noise moved to the Coches Mountains. Now, his cousin Chairscoot plays the sound of Strong Bad's stool while The Geddup Noise occassionally makes odd celebrity endorsements.

===[[highschool]]===
Strong Bad explains the characters' younger days, though he disclaims that his memory is extremely "unphotographic", and, therefore, stating that his histories are unreliable. In highschool, the characters filled the stereotypical roles for old cartoons about teenagers (a la ''[[Wikipedia:Scooby-Doo, Where are You?|Scooby-Doo]]'') as a '70s-style [[The Homestar Runner Mysfit-steries|gang of mystery solvers]]. Before that, in middle school, they were all imaginative "melon-headed babies", occupying their time pretending to be living their dreams (in reference to ''[[Wikipedia:Jim_Henson%27s_Muppet_Babies|Muppet Babies]]''). Homestar is portrayed as some kind of grown adult supervisor. Before that, the gang were a bunch of microscopic single-celled organisms living in a [[Free Country, USA#Free Petry Dish USA|petri dish]]. And yet before that, they were all Romans, living in [[Wikipedia:Ancient Rome|Roman times]], with [[Don Knotts]] always showing up.

===[[myths & legends]]===
Strong Bad details the legends surrounding the [[Bear holding a Shark]]. According to Strong Bad, much of the Bear-Shark's origins can be seen in the constellations over [[Strong Badia]], which show the [[Strong Badia's Seven Elemental Spirits|seven elemental spirits of Strong Badia]]: a [[flag day|snake]], a guy holding a [[Big Knives|big knife]], a box of [[General Tso's Chicken|chicken]], a piece of wood with some nails in it, a hand giving the "OK" symbol, a fish wearing an afro wig, and a British distance runner. The distance runner held up the fish with the afro wig over his head, and the two defeated the other spirits in either paintball or Red Rover, thus becoming the new rulers. After years of bad story telling and the [[Wikipedia:Telephone (game)|telephone game]], the myth went through various incarnations, as evidenced by various documentary-type evidence, ranging from medieval wood carvings of a hairy "wildernessman" with a "sea beast", to a cathedral-style stained glass window of a moose holding a chameleon in its antlers. Strong Bad then researches some "ancient [[Wikipedia:Cave painting|fence drawings]]" on the Strong Badian picket fence, which consist of strange images of the Bear-Shark destroying villages and crops, stealing babies, and bike riding (or pie-sitting) with what appears to be its family. The drawings were actually done by Strong Bad at age 5, though he has long forgotten this. Bubs begins selling Bear-Shark merchandise such as t-shirts, frozen treats and plush toys. Homestar manages to capture (or forge) blurry [[Wikipedia:Patterson-Gimlin film|Bigfoot-style]] footage of what may be the Bear-Shark in the woods, but this only adds to the question of whether the Bear-Shark is a "mysterious myth or legendary legend".

===[[the paper]] ===
As Strong Bad reaches the email that was foretold in [[montage]] to be [[The Paper]]'s last appearance, [[user:thewi2kbug|Kyle]] asks him to recall the best moments they shared. Strong Bad recounts several misadventures with The Paper, as a tribute to his old friend. These include Strong Bad and The Paper beating [[Homestar]] in basketball. The Paper went through a goth phase and, subsequentially, a preppy phase, neither of which Strong Bad liked. The Paper is then said to have saved the [[Lappy 486]] from getting drenched in [[Mountain Dew]] and helped Strong Bad escape a sinking island.

===[[original]]===
Strong Bad is asked if he ever watched his favorite shows and movies and realized that his favorite character was replaced with another actor. Strong Bad reveals that the King of Town has been played by twelve different people, and that Bubs was played by [[Original Bubs]] before Original Bubs left over a [[mayonnaise]] dispute with the King of Town. For a few months, Strong Bad and Homestar tried to pretend that Original Bubs was always hiding behind a [[cardboard box]]. Later, circulating Guest Star Bubs were used, including [[Senor Cardgage]], [[Crack Stuntman]], and [[Onion Bubs]]. After Strong Bad finishes his story, Bubs continues to claim to be the 100% All Original Bubs, and Marzipan later confirms that Strong Bad made the whole thing up. Homestar still has tragic memories of Original Bubs, though.

===[[yes, wrestling]]===
Strong Bad's wrestling career is shown to be much more colorful than has been revealed before. He and Strong Mad went through several costume phases. The events in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]] are not mentioned. Homestar's tag-team partner was claimed to be (the imaginary) Gary the Legend instead of Pom Pom. Strong Sad is also featured as Gardenboy, a wrestler with a rake and a fire-spewing water can.

===[[imaginary]]===
While most of the email tells a plausible story about the obnoxiousness of "[[Scotty Titi]]", Strong Sad's childhood [[imaginary friend]], certain details seem questionable. Strong Bad seems to imply that [[Trogdor]] was popular when he was a child (as evidenced by [[Strong Mad]]'s poster and that his own imaginary friend, "[[Frishy Freshy Dragonman]]", had the upper body of Trogdor) when in truth, Trogdor was not invented until [[dragon]], which happened while Strong Bad was an adult and clearly older than he was in this email.

==Future==
The toons listed below exhibit instances of [[Strong Bad]] predicting a future that has yet to occur or is questionable.

===[[2 years]]===
In September 2003, Strong Bad was asked what the greatest advancement in [[Strong Badia]] will be in the next two years. Strong Bad proclaims that:
*by 2005, the population of Strong Badia will have tripled from "Population: [[Tire]]" to "Population: Tire, Bundt Cake Pan, and [[Coach Z]]"
*the [[Stop Sign]] and the [[Cinder Block]] will break up
*Strong Badia will have developed a world-class hole
*[[The Cheat]] will finish painting a mural reading "Fireworks or Die"
*the Tire will have beat [[Strong Mad]] to "the title"
*[[Strong Sad]] will become more whiny
As of {{CURRENTYEAR}}, none of these have come true.

===[[your funeral]]===
On March 31, 2046, at 2:03 p.m., Strong Bad claims that there will be a zombie uprising. By about that time, [[Pom Pom]] and [[Strong Sad]] will have become tough, end-of-the-world-style heroes: Pom Pom sporting a flat-top, cigar, and ammunition belt; and Strong Sad shedding his wimpy image for a gritty-voiced, cigar-smoking, muscular fighter covered in scars and with a five o'clock shadow. His weapon of choice, however, will remain the same then as now: the leotard. Strong Bad, contrary to his outlook in [[replacement]], has decided that he will never die. He will, however, fight on the side of the zombies, if they will let him.

===[[Baddest of the Bands]]===
Strong Bad claims that by 2086, dollars will be called "Globnars".

==See Also==
*[[Blatant Lies]]

[[Category:Research]]
[[Category:Exaggeration running gags]]
[[Category:Strong Badia|Lore]]

Talk:Career Day

0rion — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:59:08 GMT

0rion: /**/Alright, this is a SERIOUS double-standard.

== Easter Eggs ==

Shouldn't someone include the Easter Eggs? I myself have not found any of them, but there may still be some. [[User:Chapien|chapien (approved by Homsar!)]] 18:42, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
:That's why it's not on the page. No one has found any yet, and there probably isn't any in the cartoon as of now (at least). {{User:DevonM/sig}} 18:50, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

== Big Toon ==

Shouldn't it be noted that this is the first big toon since 2007? I think that's kind of improtant...
:I suppose it's a bit notable, but I'm not sure it merits a mention on the page. The gap between [[A Dumpy Tale]] and [[Weclome Back]] was similar (11 months), but is not mentioned anywhere on the pages. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 19:59, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

this is not a big toon
they said is wasnt one
: On the main page, before its release, sure. But the Toons menu lists it among the big toons (as in, not Shorts). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:36, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

== Zoom zoom ==

Am I the only one that reminded of Rhino's hamsterball from the movie ''Bolt'' when I see Cheat in his space suit? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:15, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
: I was reminded of ''a'' hamster ball. But no specific ones. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:16, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
::I was reminded of the gerbil ball for the gerbil my brother used to have... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:19, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
:::I was reminded of the cow ball from The Far Side and the ball Bart was in in The Simpsons. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:41, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
::::I have that panel on my binder. It's one good Far Side. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 03:44, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

== Cape Tedaverill? ==

There have been a couple of (admittedly poorly worded) attempts to put on the page the fact that the name Ted Averill is a play on Canaveral. I have to say I'm inclined to agree, considering the space launch connection and all. Does anyone else feel similarly? (Though I note that this is not the only place where the name appears, so I don't know if this is the best place to note it). -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.26|132.183.151.26]] 01:51, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
:[[space program|The first time he appears]], it's said in such a way that no one would make the connection, so i'm inclined to say no. Also, it's a poor rhyme. If that was their intention, they could do so much better. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:53, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
:I also happen to think it's a reference. The sound-alike quality is definitely more pronounced in Career Day, but I think it's clear enough in Space Program as well. I know there's no way to prove it, but I remember making that connection the first time I saw Space Program; I just never got around to checking its wiki entry.[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 18:33, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

== McWhat Nebula? ==
I'm hearing McCow-Pie Nebula rather than McAlpine Nebula. No? It's funnier.
{{User:Funhaver}}
:I heard it as "cow pie" the first time, but after reading the transcript and listening closely, i must conclude that, sad though it may be, it's "MacAlpine." {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:45, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
:I think the "Mc" and the "Al" sounds are blending together to get the "McCow" sound. It sounded somewhat like that when I watched it, too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:46, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

== Buck the System ==
It's probably just because I am a huge SOAD fan, but when Strong bad said "Bucking the System" I instantly thought of the System of a Down song "F*ck the System." Anyone else think this? Just wondering if it should be on the real world references page.--[[User:Shaokahn280z|Shaokahn280z]] 19:09, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
[http://www.google.com/search?q=bucking+the+system google results] show that it's a pretty common phrase. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:28, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

== Space: Defined by Scientists as the... ==

When Strong Bad says this while in the shows the space capsule, I believe the way he says this is a refrence to "Space: The Final Frontier", from Star Trek. Should someone add this to the page as a refrence?
:I thought of it as well, but i figured it might be too vague. I'm on the fence. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:56, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

== Blowin' in the Wind ==

A fact that's been removed from the page several times now involves the fan, which is being used similarly to in [[magic trick]]. Looks like a valid fact to me — it's basically the same joke, using the fan to make clothes blow around dramatically — but what do you say? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:39, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
:Since I was the one who added the fact, I know I don't have to say I agree, but I'm gonna say it just to acknowledge your post with the other users that will be looking at the recent changes over the next hour or so :) {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 22:59, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

== whating the system? ==

Is it me, or is "Bucking the System" a reference to a cuss word?--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 19:53, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
:It's you. As noted above in a different section, "buck the system" is a [http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/buck+the+system common phrase] with [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/buck no etymological relation] to the rhyming cuss word. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 20:20, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

== Miles and miles of the spaceman styles... ==

The chin-curlies on Space Captainface's..er...face struck me as being similar to that of [http://blog.thedebianuser.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/buzz.jpg Buzz Lightyear]. Most likely a case of TTATOT, but just thought I'd throw it out there.

:I'd say either [[HrWiki:Glossary#T|TTATOT]], or just a buttchin to make him look more different.--[[User:T3H CH3K7 888|T3H_CH3K7_888]] 23:42, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

:: I would agree with that; Captain Quark from the Ratchet and Clank games has the same sort of buttchin.

== For lack of a better title ==

I noticed while watching for the 18th time today that Strap's toothpick goes through his gerbil ball... thing while in space. Why isn't this a Goof? -Corruption (logged in = 0)

== Alright, this is a SERIOUS double-standard. ==

Let me get this straight - there's an entire ARTICLE dedicated to instances of Strong Bad smiling (a fairly common occurrence), a mention of the Poopsmith singing on-screen, and heck - even a mention of Homestar making a (borderline) grammatical error, but there's no mentioning the very first time Homsar unambiguously laughs at something?

What the heck are these sections FOR if not for pointing out something noteworthy and out of the ordinary? Homsar is a character that's known for being seemingly oblivious to what's going on around him (albeit in a ambivalent sort of way), so this is a COMPLETE departure for him as a character. To suggest anything else is nothing short of absurd. The mention of this unprecedented event should stay, or at the very LEAST be put up for a vote. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 22:59, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Career Day

0rion — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:48:38 GMT

0rion: undid revision 635426; No matter how many times you say that, it doesn't make it any less notable. It's a character behaving differently than he's known for doing.

{{toonnav|Big Toon|careerday|DNA Evidence|The King of Town DVD}}
{{subtitlesLinks|careerday}}
[[Image:Captainface.png|thumb|"But what ''is'' a Space Captainface? And what does it do?"]]

Space Captainface visits [[L.U.R.N.]] for Career Day and shows the class an edumacational film.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}/[[Space Captainface]], {{Film|The Cheat}}/[[Strap Coopmore]], [[Ted Averill]]

'''Places:''' [[The Classroom]], [[Outer Space]]

'''Date:''' Tuesday, March 10, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 4:25

'''Page Title:''' SBASAF Mind Control Films Presents

==Transcript==

''{Marzipan is standing in her classroom, in front of a chalkboard that reads "NECROTIZING FASCITIS", with all of the I's dotted with hearts.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Listen out, Life Blossoms! Today, for Career Day, we have a very special visitor.

''{Scene cuts to the 'Life Blossoms': Homestar, Strong Mad and Homsar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Is it that social worker again?

'''MARZIPAN:''' No, no! That's all taken care of! The charges were dropped! Anyway, please welcome the Strong Badian Administration of Some Aluminum Foil's own Space Captainface!

''{Strong Bad, dressed as Space Captainface, approaches a screen and cheers for himself.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Great Planets, kids! Your frumpy schoolmarm, here, has asked me to talk to you today about—

'''MARZIPAN:''' I didn't ask you! You paid ''me'' to let ''you'' talk.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Shut up. —talk to you today about an exciting career in... ''{dramatically, zooms out to reveal a floor-mounted fan, which is blowing his cape back}'' SPACE TRAVEL!

'''STRONG MAD''': BOOR-ING!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Did you bring us any candy, police-fire-man?

'''HOMSAR:''' You bring the dip, I'll mow the side yard!

'''STRONG BAD:''' And now, without further you talking, some moving images to distract you long enough for your teacher to take a nap, drink, or smoke-break.

''{Movie Projector begins rolling, partially overlapping Strong Bad, who moves out of the way. Closeup onto film. It shows a title frame reading "SBASAF Propaganda Presents"}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' SBASAF Propaganda presents—

''{The film jump-cuts to a similar title screen, only with "Indoctrination Films" in place of "Propaganda".}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' —ASAF Indoctrination Films proudly—

''{The film jump-cuts again. "Indoctrination" has been replaced with "Mind-Control".}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' —AF Mind Control Films—

''{Another jump-cut, and now "Mind-Control" has been replaced by "Edumacational". For the rest of the toon, the announcer's voice sounds a little different.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' —SBASAF Edumacational Films presents: What's your Captainface?

''{Title appears, and a stylized cartoony-looking image of Strong Bad's head as Space Captainface flops onto it and pushes the letters aside. Cut to a line drawing of a large-headed child.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Kids, have you ever wondered who that mysterious man in the picture you mother hides under her pillow is?

''{The child imagines the picture being hidden under his mother's pillow. He smiles expectantly, but then frowns as the announcer continues.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Noooo-hohohohooo, it's not your real father!

''{Strong Bad, still stylized, walks behind the child. As the child is not colored in, he appears through the lines. He bumps the child offscreen.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Why, it's SBASAF's First Lieuteneral Space Captainface! But what IS a Space Captainface? And what does it do? Mmm, ''{record scratch}'' let me get back to you on that one.

''{Change of scene to a launch pad with a rocket next to a gantry}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Blast-off Day. ''{the words appear in the lower part of the screen}'' And Space Captainface anxiously awaits the all-clear from Mission Control, along with his trusty on-board mechanic and college roommate, Strap Coopmore!

''{Scene changes to the inside of the rocket, where Space Captainface and Strap Coopmore (played by a stylized The Cheat) are sitting facing upward. In the upper corner near Strap, there is a red button labeled "button"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Great Planets, Strap! What's taking so long? That spy satellite the insidious Italian Space Program put into orbit ain't gonna knock itself out!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

''{Static noise; a green glow appears from the panel near Strong Bad's hands.}

'''TED AVERILL:''' Come in, Space Captainface. This is Mission Control. ''{cut to outside of rocket panning upward from the ground}'' Space Captainface, do you read?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, yeah. ''{cut back to inside the rocket}'' I've been talking to you all ding-dang-dong morning, Flight Engineer Ted Averill ''{pronounces name as one word}''! What's the hold-up?

''{Cut to a close-up of the lower part of Ted Averill's face with monitors and buttons behind it}''

'''TED AVERILL:''' We're ready to initiate pre-launch talks about whether or not we should start ''{zoom out to a shot showing all of Averill's head and upper torso and more of the Mission Control room}'' the initial pre-pre-launch breakfast sandwiches—

''{Cut back to inside the rocket}''

'''TED AVERILL:''' ''{over the radio}'' followed by... ''{his words are covered by Strong Bad's interruption}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{interrupting}'' I say "Meteors!" to all your pre-launchery. ''{to The Cheat}'' T-minus the heck out of Dodge, Strap!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises. Salutes and pushes the button}''

''{Cut to a view of the bottom of the rocket, whose engines flare up and emit smoke. Cut to a more distant view of the rocket, which launches, causing the gantry to tip over a few degrees. Cut back to Ted Averill in Mission Control.}''

'''TED AVERILL:''' ''{continuing from before; as he speaks, the gantry completely falls over on his monitor}''—agreed on the design for the back of the official mission T-shirts w—oh, mostly dang. Looks like I'm fired again. ''{pushes a button which turns off his monitor.}''

''{Cut to a view of the sky}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Breaking the rules ''{the words appear at the top of the screen}'' is just one of Space Captainface's ''{the rocket enters from the bottom of the screen and proceeds to the top}'' many job responsibilities. And let's not forget bucking the system, ''{the words appear below "Breaking the rules"}'', rabble-rousing ''{the words appear below "Bucking the system"}'' and assaulting superior officers. ''{the words appear below "Rabble-rousing". The rocket, now more distant, enters from the left and exits above.}''

''{Cut to a scene in space with Earth below (the United States is visible in the middle of the ocean) and a satellite floating close to the camera}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Space! Defined by scientists as the coolest place in the universe to throw up. ''{A high puking noise is heard; the word "BLARF!" in green letters zooms to the foreground.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, nice one, Strap!

''{Cut to the inside of the rocket, where Strong Bad and the Cheat are now floating; there is also a brown blob of puke with green and orange specks. The Cheat is somewhat green in color and is otherwise visibly nauseated.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That one looks like the MacAlpine Nebula! ''{a red light in the corner flashes and a siren sounds}'' Great Planets! We must be approaching the spy satellite. Suit up, Strap. ''{fade out}''

''{Cut to the a view of the hull of the rocket in space; a door opens and Strong Bad emerges in a space suit, followed by the Cheat, whose entire body is in a space helmet.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Second in importance only to his aftershave is a Space Captainface's new-type space suit. ''{cut to a diagram of Strong Bad's space suit}'' It's the only thing protecting his sweet can ''{cut to a picture of Strong Bad's rear in space, various yellow particles are flying around, some of which bounce off Strong Bad's rear}'' from the harmful effects of the mysterious cosmic rays! ''{the words appear and zoom forward}''

''{Cut to a view of a satellite bearing the Italian flag floating in space.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Space downs!

''{Cut to a closeup of the Italian flag on the satellite.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' They have a spy camera pointing directly at Strong Badia. ''{A round section of the Italian flag peels away to reveal a camera whose lens shows a reflection of Strong Badia.}''

''{Cut to a view of Strong Bad floating through space.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ready with the counter-intelligence. ''{Gets out a photograph. Cut to a close-up of the photograph, which has a smiley face sticking out its tongue and the words "oh, just nothing" scrawled on it.}''

''{Cut back to the camera; Strong Bad sticks the photo onto its lens. Cut to a view of Strong Bad floating forwards and away from the satellite.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Those superior bicycle makers will never find out our cheat codes and barbecue sauce recipes now, Strap! ''{looks to the side}'' Strap?

''{Cut to a view of The Cheat floating toward an hourglass-shaped satellite with the words "The Bikini Channel" on it.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{excited The Cheat noises}''

''{Cut to a close-up of Strong Bad's face; he is visibly annoyed.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strap!

''{Cut to a view of Strong Bad's suit again; "the end" is written in his helmet.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{laughs as film ends}''

'''MARIZPAN:''' ''{moves in front of the projector, annoyed}'' Homestar, is there something you'd like to add?

''{Cut to a close-up of Homestar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Umm, teacher, if spaceman makes bafroom in his pants, ''{zoom out to view all the Life Blossoms}'' does he go boom? ''{Homestar, Strong Mad and Homsar laugh.}''

''{Cut to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Shut up, you little worse-than-homeschoolers! Show some respect! What kind of question is that to ask a Strong Badian hero? ''{zoom in on Strong Bad's head}'' Spaceman make bafroom in his pants ''{covers his mouth as he starts to laugh on the last word, he continues laughing from this point on}'' does he go boom? Actually, a pretty funny question, now that I think about it at length.

''{Cut back to the life blossoms, still laughing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I've often wondered myself what—what would happen if I was ''{cut back to Strong Bad}'' to make bafroom ''{laughs harder}'' in my pants! I might go boom!

''{Cut back to the diagram of Strong Bad's suit; this time it says "boom" in his helmet.}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Necrotizing_fasciitis|Necrotizing fasciitis]], misspelled as "Necrotizing Fascitis" on the chalkboard, is a rare infection of the deeper layers of skin and subcutaneous tissues. It is (much) more commonly known as "flesh-eating disease".
*[[Wikipedia:Cosmic_rays|Cosmic rays]] are energetic particles originating from space that impinge on Earth's atmosphere.
*[[Wikipedia:Indoctrination|Indoctrination]] is the process of teaching specific ideas or methodologies.

===Trivia===
*This is the first big toon in nearly 2 years; the previous one, [[DNA Evidence]], was released in May of 2007.
*At the end of the film, there is text written in [[AhnbergHand]] on the leader. It reads "THE REAL END OF REEL ONE!"
*This is the first toon in which Homsar is shown laughing at something.

===Remarks===
*Although the [[main page message]] the day before this toon was released said "[[new short soon]]", it is listed among the big toons.
*When Space Captainface stands in front of the projector as the film begins, his entire face is lit up. However, only half his head's shadow is seen on the screen.

===Goofs===
*In the close-up of Flight Engineer Ted Averill speaking at mission control, a small bit of the control panel is visible through his face on one of his mouth movement animations.
*Strong Bad's appearance in this cartoon is [[Strong Bad Evolution|an older design]] than the current one.

===Inside References===
*Marzipan's [[L.U.R.N.]] class first appeared in [[coloring]].
*The [[Strong Badian Administration of Some Aluminum Foil]] first appeared in [[space program]], as did the rivalry with the Italian space program. The background music played when introducing Space Captainface in the filmstrip is the same song Strong Bad sings at the end of that e-mail.
*Space Captainface's catch phrase "Great planets!" was first heard in [[Space Program Alternate Take]].
*Strong Bad's remark that the teacher can get a nap, drink, or smoke break echoes a line from [[Commandos in the Classroom]], which encourages the teacher to take a nap or smoke during the video, as well as an additional line at the very end to both "allow ten to fifteen more minutes of peace" and "fix a drink, maybe".
*[[Strong Mad smiling|Strong Mad]] and [[Strong Bad smiling|Strong Bad]] both smile.
*The Cheat [[puke]]s in this cartoon.
*The counter-intelligence has "oh, just nothing" written on it, which is what the "long-haired freaky Cheat" picture on [[Strong Bad's website]] is directed to in the source.
*The blocks on Homsar's desk read, "[["Er" pronounced as "Oi"|TOID]]". In the email [[coloring]], they read "TURD".


===Real-World References===
*The MacAlpine Nebula is a reference to guitarist [[Wikipedia:Tony_MacAlpine|Tony MacAlpine]].

==External Links==
*[[HR:careerday.html|Watch "Career Day"]]
*[[HR:careerday.swf|View the Flash file for "Career Day"]]
*[[forum:15167|forum thread re: "Career Day"]]

[[Category:Toons]]

Career Day

0rion — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:11:02 GMT

0rion: /* Trivia */ It's the best medicine, munster-mayahn!

{{toonnav|Big Toon|careerday|DNA Evidence|The King of Town DVD}}
{{subtitlesLinks|careerday}}
[[Image:Captainface.png|thumb|"But what ''is'' a Space Captain Face? And what does it do?"]]

Space Captainface visits [[L.U.R.N.]] for Career Day and shows the class an edumacational film.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}/[[Space Captainface]], {{Film|The Cheat}}/[[Strap Coopmore]], [[Ted Averill]]

'''Places:''' [[The Classroom]], [[Outer Space]]

'''Date:''' Tuesday, March 10, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 4:25

'''Page Title:''' SBASAF Mind Control Films Presents

==Transcript==

''{Marzipan is standing in her classroom, in front of a chalkboard that reads "NECROTIZING FASCITIS", with all of the I's dotted with hearts.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Listen out, Life Blossoms! Today, for Career Day, we have a very special visitor.

''{Scene cuts to the 'Life Blossoms': Homestar, Strong Mad and Homsar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Is it that social worker again?

'''MARZIPAN:''' No, no! That's all taken care of! The charges were dropped! Anyway, please welcome the Strong Badian Administration of Some Aluminum Foil's own Space Captainface!

''{Strong Bad, dressed as Space Captainface, approaches a screen and cheers for himself.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Great Planets, kids! Your frumpy schoolmarm, here, has asked me to talk to you today about—

'''MARZIPAN:''' I didn't ask you! You paid ''me'' to let ''you'' talk.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Shut up. —talk to you today about an exciting career in... ''{dramatically, zooms out to reveal a floor-mounted fan, which is blowing his cape back}'' SPACE TRAVEL!

'''STRONG MAD''': BOOR-ING!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Did you bring us any candy, police-fire-man?

'''HOMSAR:''' You bring the dip, I'll mow the side yard!

'''STRONG BAD:''' And now, without further you talking, some moving images to distract you long enough for your teacher to take a nap, drink, or smoke-break.

''{Movie Projector begins rolling, partially overlapping Strong Bad, who moves out of the way. Closeup onto film. It shows a title frame reading "SBASAF Propaganda Presents"}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' SBASAF Propaganda presents—

''{The film jump-cuts to a similar title screen, only with "Indoctrination Films" in place of "Propaganda".}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' —ASAF Indoctrination Films proudly—

''{The film jump-cuts again. "Indoctrination" has been replaced with "Mind-Control".}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' —AF Mind Control Films—

''{Another jump-cut, and now "Mind-Control" has been replaced by "Edumacational". For the rest of the toon, the announcer's voice sounds a little different.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' —SBASAF Edumacational Films presents: What's your Captainface?

''{Title appears, and a stylized cartoony-looking image of Strong Bad's head as Space Captainface flops onto it and pushes the letters aside. Cut to a line drawing of a large-headed child.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Kids, have you ever wondered who that mysterious man in the picture you mother hides under her pillow is?

''{The child imagines the picture being hidden under his mother's pillow. He smiles expectantly, but then frowns as the announcer continues.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Noooo-hohohohooo, it's not your real father!

''{Strong Bad, still stylized, walks behind the child. As the child is not colored in, he appears through the lines. He bumps the child offscreen.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Why, it's SBASAF's First Lieuteneral Space Captainface! But what IS a Space Captainface? And what does it do? Mmm, ''{record scratch}'' let me get back to you on that one.

''{Change of scene to a launch pad with a rocket next to a gantry}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Blast-off Day. ''{the words appear in the lower part of the screen}'' And Space Captainface anxiously awaits the all-clear from Mission Control, along with his trusty on-board mechanic and college roommate, Strap Coopmore!

''{Scene changes to the inside of the rocket, where Space Captainface and Strap Coopmore are sitting facing upward. In the upper corner near Strap, there is a red button labeled "button"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Great Planets, Strap! What's taking so long? That spy satellite the insidious Italian Space Program put into orbit ain't gonna knock itself out!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

''{Static noise; a green glow appears from the panel near Strong Bad's hands.}

'''TED AVERILL:''' Come in, Space Captainface. This is Mission Control. ''{cut to outside of rocket panning upward from the ground}'' Space Captainface, do you read?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, yeah. ''{cut back to inside the rocket}'' I've been talking to you all ding-dang-dong morning, Flight Engineer Ted Averill ''{pronounces name as one word}''! What's the hold-up?

''{Cut to a close-up of the lower part of Ted Averill's face with monitors and buttons behind it}''

'''TED AVERILL:''' We're ready to initiate pre-launch talks about whether or not we should start ''{zoom out to a shot showing all of Averill's head and upper torso and more of the Mission Control room}'' the initial pre-pre-launch breakfast sandwiches—

''{Cut back to inside the rocket}''

'''TED AVERILL:''' ''{over the radio}'' followed by... ''{his words are covered by Strong Bad's interruption}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{interrupting}'' I say "Meteors!" to all your pre-launchery. ''{to The Cheat}'' T-minus the heck out of Dodge, Strap!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises. Pushes the button}''

''{Cut to a view of the bottom of the rocket, whose engines flare up and emit smoke. Cut to a more distant view of the rocket, which launches, causing the gantry to tip over a few degrees. Cut back to Ted Averill in Mission Control.}''

'''TED AVERILL:''' ''{continuing from before; as he speaks, the gantry completely falls over on his monitor}''—agreed on the design for the back of the official mission T-shirts w—oh, mostly dang. Looks like I'm fired again. ''{pushes a button which turns off his monitor.}''

''{Cut to a view of the sky}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Breaking the rules ''{the words appear at the top of the screen}'' is just one of Space Captainface's ''{the rocket enters from the bottom of the screen and proceeds to the top}'' many job responsibilities. And let's not forget bucking the system, ''{the words appear below "Breaking the rules"}'', rabble-rousing ''{the words appear below "Bucking the system"}'' and assaulting superior officers. ''{the words appear below "Rabble-rousing". The rocket, now more distant, enters from the left and exits above.}''

''{Cut to a scene in space with Earth below (the United States is visible in the middle of the ocean) and a satellite floating close to the camera}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Space! Defined by scientists as the coolest place in the universe to throw up. ''{A high puking noise is heard; the word "BLARF!" is green letters zooms to the foreground.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, nice one, Strap!

''{Cut to the inside of the rocket, where Strong Bad and the Cheat are now floating; there is also a brown blob of puke with green and orange specks. The Cheat is somewhat green in color and is otherwise visibly nauseated.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That one looks like the MacAlpine Nebula! ''{a red light in the corner flashes and a siren sounds}'' Great Planets! We must be approaching the spy satellite. Suit up, Strap. ''{fade out}''

''{Cut to the a view of the hull of the rocket in space; a door opens and Strong Bad emerges in a space suit, followed by the Cheat, whose entire body is in a space helmet.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Second in importance only to his aftershave is a Space Captainface's new-type space suit. ''{cut to a diagram of Strong Bad's space suit}'' It's the only thing protecting his sweet can ''{cut to a picture of Strong Bad's rear in space, various yellow particles are flying around, some of which bounce off Strong Bad's rear}'' from the harmful effects of the mysterious cosmic rays! ''{the words appear and zoom forward}''

''{Cut to a view of a satellite bearing the Italian flag floating in space.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Space downs!

''{Cut to a closeup of the Italian flag on the satellite.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' They have a spy camera pointing directly at Strong Badia. ''{A round section of the Italian flag peels away to reveal a camera whose lens shows a reflection of Strong Badia.}''

''{Cut to a view of Strong Bad floating through space.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ready with the counter-intelligence. ''{Gets out a photograph. Cut to a close-up of the photograph, which has a smiley face sticking out its tongue and the words "oh, just nothing" scrawled on it.}''

''{Cut back to the camera; Strong Bad sticks the photo onto its lens. Cut to a view of Strong Bad floating forwards and away from the satellite.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Those superior bicycle makers will never find out our cheat codes and barbecue sauce recipes now, Strap! ''{looks to the side}'' Strap?

''{Cut to a view of The Cheat floating toward an hourglass-shaped satellite with the words "The Bikini Channel" on it.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{excited The Cheat noises}''

''{Cut to a close-up of Strong Bad's face; he is visibly annoyed.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strap!

''{Cut to a view of Strong Bad's suit again; "the end" is written in his helmet.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{laughs as film ends}''

'''MARIZPAN:''' ''{moves in front of the projector, annoyed}'' Homestar, is there something you'd like to add?

''{Cut to a close-up of Homestar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Umm, teacher, if spaceman makes bafroom in his pants, ''{zoom out to view all the Life Blossoms}'' does he go boom? ''{Homestar, Strong Mad and Homsar laugh.}''

''{Cut to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Shut up, you little worse-than-homeschoolers! Show some respect! What kind of question is that to ask a Strong Badian hero? ''{zoom in on Strong Bad's head}'' Spaceman make bafroom in his pants ''{covers his mouth as he starts to laugh on the last word, he continues laughing from this point on}'' does he go boom? Actually, a pretty funny question, now that I think about it at length.

''{Cut back to the life blossoms, still laughing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I've often wondered myself what—what would happen if I was ''{cut back to Strong Bad}'' to make bafroom ''{laughs harder}'' in my pants! I might go boom!

''{Cut back to the diagram of Strong Bad's suit; this time it says "boom" in his helmet.}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Necrotizing_fasciitis|Necrotizing fasciitis]], misspelled as "Necrotizing Fascitis" on the chalkboard, is a rare infection of the deeper layers of skin and subcutaneous tissues. It is (much) more popularly known as "flesh-eating disease".
*[[Wikipedia:Cosmic_rays|Cosmic rays]] are energetic particles originating from space that impinge on Earth's atmosphere.
*[[Wikipedia:Indoctrination|Indoctrination]] is the process of teaching specific ideas or methodologies.

===Trivia===
*This is the first big toon in nearly 2 years; the previous one, [[DNA Evidence]], was released in May of 2007.
*At the end of the film, there is text written in [[AhnbergHand]] on the leader. It reads "THE REAL END OF REEL ONE!"
*This is the first toon in which Homsar is shown laughing at something.

===Remarks===
*Although the [[main page message]] the day before this toon was released said "[[new short soon]]", it is listed among the big toons.
*When Space Captainface stands in front of the projector as the film begins, his entire face is lit up. However, only half his head's shadow is seen on the screen.

===Goofs===
*In the close-up of Flight Engineer Ted Averill speaking at mission control, a small bit of the control panel is visible through his face on one of his mouth movement animations.

===Inside References===
*Marzipan's [[L.U.R.N.]] class first appeared in [[coloring]].
*The [[Strong Badian Administration of Some Aluminum Foil]] first appeared in [[space program]], as did the rivalry with the Italian space program. The background music played when introducing Space Captainface in the filmstrip is the same song Strong Bad sings at the end of that e-mail.
*Space Captainface's catch phrase "Great planets!" was first heard in [[Space Program Alternate Take]].
*Strong Bad's remark that the teacher can get a nap, drink, or smoke break echoes a line from [[Commandos in the Classroom]], which encourages the teacher to take a nap or smoke during the video, as well as an additional line at the very end to both "allow ten to fifteen more minutes of peace" and "fix a drink, maybe".
*[[Strong Mad smiling|Strong Mad]] and [[Strong Bad smiling|Strong Bad]] both smile.
*The Cheat [[puke]]s in this cartoon.
*The counter-intelligence has "oh, just nothing" written on it, which is what the "long-haired freaky Cheat" picture on [[Strong Bad's website]] is directed to in the source.
*The blocks on Homsar's desk read, "[["Er" pronounced as "Oi"|TOID]]". In the email [[coloring]], they read "TURD".
*The fan that is blowing on Strong Bad's cape is the exact same one as the one seen in [[magic trick]]. Strong Bad has a similar use for the fan in this toon, as he uses it to make an article of clothing he was wearing move as if it were blowing in the wind.


===Real-World References===
*The MacAlpine Nebula is a reference to guitarist [[Wikipedia:Tony_MacAlpine|Tony MacAlpine]].

==External Links==
*[[HR:careerday.html|Watch "Career Day"]]
*[[HR:careerday.swf|View the Flash file for "Career Day"]]
*[[forum:15167|forum thread re: "Career Day"]]

[[Category:Toons]]

Hremail 2000

0rion — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:09:10 GMT

0rion: /* Explanations */

{{hrenav|2000|62|24}}
{{subtitlesLinks|hremail2000}}
[[Image:Puppet show.png|thumb|"I'm a lonely Swiss miss lost in a chanted forest!"]]

Homestar offers advice on keeping your old shoes.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Strong Bad}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[The Hremail Room]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[The Gym]], [[The Field]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' Monday, February 2, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 3:09

'''Page title:''' Arturo 9000!

==Transcript==
''{Homestar is in silhouette, sitting at his desk.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Give it the gas, people! It's the breakout album of the year, Homestar Runner!

''{Homestar Runner's Theme Song plays as the scene lights up.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thanks, shadow self! We'll do battle later. Today's missile ''{produces a paper}'' comes from Josh Keady in Corvallis, Oregon! ''{reads in a nervous high-pitched voice:}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background:#FFF;color:#000">
Dear Homestar. 
 
How long should a person keep 
a pair of shoes? I have this one 
pair that has been around for 
years, but they're falling apart 
pretty badly now. My girlfriend 
thinks that I should get rid of 
them. So what do I do? Repair 
or replace? 
 
Urgently waiting for your advice, 
Josh
</blockquote>

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Now you see those three little words?

''{He holds up the paper to the audience, and the camera zooms in on it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' "My girlfriend thinks"?

''{As he says each word, the appropriate word is highlighted, with a different sound effect for each. Cut back to Homestar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' That's your problem right there! ''{puts down the paper}'' I got one o' them, too. ''{Gets up and walks toward the Arturo.}'' The lad-ays just don't understand that it can take a man's shoes five to several years to finally get that sought-after walkin'-around-with-someone-else's-slightly-larger-foot-pelts-on-your-feet feeling! Stuff like holes, duct tape, and rank odor are—

''{Zoom in on the Arturo. A picture of a man's head appears.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{from offscreen}'' —just the shoe equivalent of graying hair—

''{The hair of the man in the picture grays a little.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' —buying a blue Miata—

''{A convertible appears under the head; the head is big enough to fill the both of the front seats.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' — and dating your graduate assistant!

''{A woman appears beside the head, proportioned correctly for the car. The head winks with a "ding" sound effect. Cut back to Homestar, sitting back down at the desk.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Now first of all, Josh, let's find out how old your shoes ''really'' are. And by that I mean—

''{Cut to the image of a very battered-looking shoe with "STREISAND" scrawled onto the side. Green clouds are seen behind it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{voiceover}'' —how many office supplies you got holdin' 'em together.

''{Rubber bands appear wrapped around the shoe.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Rubber bands for laces?

''{Paperclips appear on the shoe.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Paperclips keeping the tongue from falling apart?

''{Two binder clips appear.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' These little things doing... ''{The clips grab parts of the shoes as Homestar hesitates.}'' their... little thing? Why do I wanna call these—

''{Cut back to Homestar. He's holding up a binder clip.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' —"cow clips"? ''{turns around}'' Does anyone else call these "cow clips"? No? ''{He holds the clip up to the camera and and opens it. As though providing the sound for the clip:}'' Moooo! Moooooo! ''{puts the clip down}'' If your kicks are old enough, as my pair of—

''{Cut to a stylized closeup of Homestar's feet. Black hairs are visible on Homestar's legs. His left shoe has some green slime coming out from the sole, is torn and stained, and has multiple oddly-colored bumps on it. His right shoe's sole is coming unraveled.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' —Freshley's Trackfaster Pro Squadrons ''{a logo for this brand appears}'' certainly are—

''{Cut back to Homestar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' —then you can usually distract a few more months outta your girlfriend with...

''{Cut to a stage over two blue lumps.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{voiceover}'' A puppet show!

''{The camera pans back, revealing that the stage is very small and the blue lumps are part of Marzipan's couch. Marzipan is sitting on it, looking cross. One of Homestar's feet comes up over the sofa; his foot has googly-eyes attached to it and some fake "hair" that resembles blonde pigtails. It "speaks" by having its sole partially disconnect from the rest of the shoe.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{as the shoe-puppet}'' Tra-la-la! I'm a lonely Swiss miss lost in a chanted forest!

''{Another leg appears. This one also has googly eyes, but a small purple wizard cap and drawn-on eyebrows and a mustache.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{as the second shoe-puppet}'' Yes! And now you will toil away in my ''toil''-et mines! While I get all the kickbacks! ''{as the first puppet}'' Oh no! Who will save me?

''{A third leg appears. This one has the googly eyes on the sole, rather than the foot, and has a blonde "wig" on it. Marzipan sits up, startled.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{as the third puppet}'' I'll save you!

''{Marzipan gasps loudly. The screen dims as the camera zooms in.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{voiceover}'' And when your puppet show gets canceled after three seasons...

''{Cut to a closeup of Marzipan}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{angrily}'' You mean the whole last season was a ''dream?!'' Gimme a break! They shoulda just had babies, and then the babies shoulda gotten married.

''{Cut to Homestar at his desk.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ...then it's time to start wearin' giant socks ''{holds up a giant sock}'' over your old shoes with even bigger shoes ''{holds up a shoe that resembles his own, but larger, and has "SIZE 18" written in it}'' on top of 'em! And since you got one o' them ''thinking''-type girlfriends, I say throw another sock-shoe ''{holds up an even bigger sock and a "SIZE [[STRONG MAD]]" shoe}'' layer on top, just to be safe. ''{moves the socks and shoes to the sides and looks between them}'' And at this point, if nothin' else, you'll probably make a pretty good power-forward. So go ahead and post up. I'll be there to hit you in the paint.

''{Cut to the gym; Homestar is wearing enormous socks and basketball shoes. Marzipan is with him, and there is a basketball on the ground between them. Homestar steps back and forth.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hoo! Heh! Hoo! ''{holds up his left foot, as if kicking Marzipan}'' Hoo-yah! ''{drops his foot}'' Hoo! ''{turns around}'' Hup! ''{turns back}'' Come on, Stockton! I'd like to see you break through this impenetrable wall of defense!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Homestar, you said there was gonna be a dance here tonight!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' That's right: the ancient art of watch-my-baskeeball dance!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Uh... I think it's bas-''KET''-ball.

''{A whistle is heard. Homestar's third leg-puppet, with an ankle-band that looks like a sports referee's shirt, leans in.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{as the puppet}'' Technical foul! Art Stockton! First down!

''{Cut to a closeup of the Arturo. The picture of the head in the car with the woman appears. "email homestar runner at djmankiewicz@homestarrunner.com" appears on the screen. The head winks with the same "ding!" sound effect.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on the female graduate assistant to see a scene with Strong Bad in the Field.
:''{Strong Bad is wearing shoes that look like [[Soolnds|Strong Sad's feet]].}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Ah... ''that's'' the feeling I've been looking for! Come on, foot-pelts!
*At the end, click on the car's front tire to see Homestar doing battle with his shadow.
:''{Homestar is looking at "Shadow Homestar." There are health bars at the top of the screen labeled "HOMESTAR RUNNER" and "SHADOW HOMESTAR".}''
:'''ANNOUNCER:''' Round one! FIGHT! ''{"FIGHT!" appears in the middle of the screen.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Aw, man! ''Shadow'' Homestar?! ''{sarcastically}'' "Hey, I've got a great idea! Let's dip the main character in a vat of ink and make you fight ''him'' before you get to the end boss!"
:''{Shadow Homestar suddenly leaps forward and kicks regular Homestar repeatedly, knocking his health to zero. Homestar collapses on the ground.}''
:'''ANNOUNCER:''' ''{quietly}'' Heh heh... geez. Sorry to laugh, that was just... rough. Ouch! ''{"OUCH!" appears in the middle of the screen.}''

== Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*Power forward is a basketball position, playing a role similar to that of a center. They are usually one of the tallest players on a team, and among the better defenders.
**To "post up" refers to the positioning of the power forward during a team's offensive possession, in which the power forward has his back to the basket, and is "in the paint."
**Likewise, to hit someone "in the paint" refers to passing the ball to a player, usually the power forward, who is waiting within the borders of the free-throw lane, which is painted a single, solid color.
*Babies and weddings are often cited as signs that a television series has [[Wikipedia:Jumping the shark|jumped the shark]].
*Marzipan's remark that the entire last season was just a dream refers to a gimmick employed by [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AllJustADream several television series] in which such a revelation is made, usually in the last episode of that season.
*Homestar's remark that he will "do battle [with Shadow Homestar] later" refers to the common occurance of a hero overcoming a [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EnemyWithout dark] or [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilTwin evil] version of himself in video games and other media. It can also be interpreted literally, as he does indeed fight with him during the Easter egg at the end.
*Homestar's use of "missile" is a [[malapropism]] for "missive", meaning a written communication or letter.

===Trivia===
*This email [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=15066&p=791524#p791524 was sent in] by wiki forum user [http://forum.hrwiki.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=7133 mr_josh].

===Remarks===
*When Homestar is reading the letter initially, "My girlfriend thinks" is split over two lines, but in the close-up, it is all on the same line.
*Homestar holds up four items (two socks and two shoes) individually. This would obviously require [[Lack of Visible Arms#Oddities|more than two arms]].

===Inside References===
*Homestar wears [[Freshley's]] brand shoes.
*In the gym, Homestar is wearing Air Cardgages, first seen in [[diorama]].
*Homestar's shoe puppets feature [[googly-eyed objects|googly-eyes]].
*Homestar previously fought himself in [[strong badathlon]], and that email also featured a somewhat random appearance of the name Streisand.
*Strong Bad's walk in the Easter egg echoes how he walks when he leaves Club Technochocolate wearing the [['Lectric Boots]] in [[extra plug]].
*Covering a character in ink to create his silhouette was previously performed on [[Killingyouguy]] in [[dangeresque 3]].
*The third Homestar foot and Homestar fighting himself are instances of [[duplicate characters]].

===Real-World References===
*Homestar calling Marzipan "Stockton" likely refers to [[Wikipedia:John Stockton|John Stockton]].
*The gruff announcer in the Homestar vs. Shadow Homestar Easter egg says "Round 1, FIGHT!" in a voice very similar to the announcer in [[Mortal Kombat]]. His laugh is also reminiscent of the sound effects in the series.
** The music that plays during this scene is similar to the beat of [[Wikipedia:Ryu (Street Fighter)|Ryu's]] theme from [[Street Fighter II]].
*A [[Wikipedia:Miata|Miata]] is a car manufactured by Mazda. It is also known as the MX-5.


==External Links==
*[[HR:hremail2000.html|watch "Hremail 2000"]]
*[[HR:hremail2000.swf|view the Flash file for "Hremail 2000"]]
*[[Forum:15066|forum thread re: "Hremail 2000"]]

{{Hremail}}

[[Category:Hremail]]

Hremail 62

0rion — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:02:19 GMT

0rion: /* Remarks */ It might be true, but it's just not worth mentioning. Grammatical errors are very commonplace in the Homestar Runner universe, especially with the speech patterns of the characters.

{{hrenav|62|49|2000}}
{{subtitlesLinks|hremail62}}
[[Image:HREmail 62 drawer.png|thumb|"Nothing like a little educaysh at the foundaysh!"]]

Homestar tells Chuck from Rochester all about the Homestar Runner "Bechieve to Alieve" foundation in the first ever full-length [[Hremail]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Bubs}}

'''Places:''' [[The Hremail Room]], [[Homestar Runner's House|Homestar Runner's Bedroom]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]

'''Date:''' Monday, January 26, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 3:06

'''Page title:''' Arturo 9000!

==Transcript==
''{Opens to a silhouette of Homestar Runner sitting at a table with a coffee mug, which can be seen labeled "Soup, Not Coffee". The camera is zooming in on him.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Don't look now kids, it's everyone's favorite knock-kneed weightlifter, Homestar Runner!

''{Music, to the tune of Homestar's Theme Song, and applause; scene zooms out and is lit. The desk is shown to have the label "This guy!" on the front of it, with an arrow pointing to Homestar. Homestar himself is smiling looking back and forth.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thanks, silhouette! Today's letter ''{Pulls out a sheet of paper that is rotated in landscape form.}'' comes from Chuck from Rochester. ''{reads}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background:#FFF;color:#000">

Hello, Homestar.
 
 
Can you tell me if there is 
some kind of Homestar 
Runner Center or Homestar 
Runner International Center 
for Cultural Advancement or 
something like that that I 
could bring my students to 
for a field trip?
 
 
Chuck, Rochester
</blockquote>

''{The email is read with a view of the sheet scrolling down as Homestar reads it. Homestar begins reading in a deep voice which gradually turns back into his normal voice as he continues. He says "Cultural Advancement" in a faux French accent, and doesn't read the signature.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{Cut to a close shot of Homestar's desk. He does not have the letter anymore.}'' Oh yes, most definitely, Doctor! ''{Cut to a monochrome photo of a brick, 1950s-like building. While Homestar talks, the view continues to zoom out, eventually showing in a wooden frame.}'' Established in 1994, the Homestar Runner "Bechieve to Alieve" foundition, commonly known as, ''{Scene zooms out to reveal the scene in a picture on an orange dresser.''} this drawer, ''{fanfare}'' this drawer, ''{The camera zooms in on it and angles; fanfare.}'' this drawer! ''{It zooms in and angles again with a dutch angle. After that there is a cut to a full view of Homestar, who has been to the left of the dresser the entire time of this scene.}'' Would make an excellent field, road, or head trip for you and your studentia. ''{Cut to a close-up of Homestar. He is squinting his eyes.}'' Is that the plural of student, studentia? ''{His eyes return to normal}'' Anyway, ''{Cut to the view of Homestar and dresser again}'' lets see what the foundaysh has to offer!

''{Homestar bends over to the right and opens drawer and a cut to a top-view reveals a dank inside with a half brown, half yellow crayon smushed together in the bottom-left corner. The labels on the Crayons are combined, reading "Br&oelig;llow". There are also various items such as a picture of Homestar, various stars, and a paper clip in the back of the drawer.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ooh! Smell all that culture and education! ''{Cut to Homestar.}'' First up on our tour, is this ''{Homestar takes out the brellow crayon.}'' brellow crown! ''{Turns to the crayon.}'' and what a rich history it has! It dates all the way back to this one time. ''{Turns to the left.}'' Arturo, if you please!

''{Cut to a microfiche reader sitting on the desk.}''

'''ARTURO:''' ''{While it talks the screen flashes.}'' Coming right up, Mr. Runner! ''{A scene of Homestar holding a brown crayon and walking to Bubs' Concession Stand comes on screen from the bottom-right corner; the camera zooms in to video.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, I sure love my brown crown!

''{Cut to Strong Sad walking the other way from the other corner of the stand, holding a yellow crayon.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, yellow crayon, only you know what ''really'' happened!

''{Cut to Bubs at the concession stand holding a wrench}''

'''BUBS:''' Dangit, purple wrench!

''{Concession stand shakes to the sound of a thump.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh!

'''BUBS:''' ''{Turns to the left, he starts to look angry}'' All right, young lovers! Knock it off back there!

''{Cut back to Homestar at the drawer at a close-up.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' My brellow crown is instrumental in the drawing of buttered toast, ''{Holds up a picture with a drawing of toast on it to the left of the screen. Throughout this part Homestar points his crayon to the drawings he brings up.}'', not quite hornets, ''{Holds up a picture of a brown and yellow "zornet" on the right side of the screen, overlapping part of the toast drawing.}'', and the sun, with a 'fro. ''{Holds up a picture of the sun with a brown afro and the caption "SOL SOUL" in the center of the screen, overlapping them both. After he finishes, he throws all the papers and the brellow crayon.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Next item up for tour, is my collection of old Homestars! ''{Cut back to drawer, Homestar is picking up the variations of stars that appeared earlier.}'' They provide a unique cross section of my many facets!

''{Cut to Homestar Runner where the desk is partly visible; Holds up a star-shaped cloud.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Roundy here, is from back when I was known as the ''{Homestar puts "Roundy" on the star on his shirt, and he tips his torso back.}'' Popcorn Lumper! ''{He drops Roundy and holds up a golden star bedazzled with jewels, with the glittery noises being heard.}'' This one's from my brief stint as ''{He puts an angry expression on his face.}'' supreme emperor! ''{Squints; puts it up to the star on his chest.}'' Of... Marzipan's... rhinestone jazzler. ''{Un-squints}'' And you won't believe ''{Drops jeweled star and brings up a crusty paper star. The star is outlined with a calligraphic pen.}'' why I had to replace this old guy! Talk about cultural! That mess was like, ''{Puts the crusty star over the star on his shirt.}'' four score!

''{Cut to Homestar from the "colonial days", with a powdered wig and writing on a desk with a quill pen. He's wearing the tattered paper star, which is still just as tattered as in the previous scene, but lacking the stain.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{He mumbles while he finishes writing.}'' And with that, I am done ''{Waves quill pen in front of his face.}'' tickling my face! ''{Pulls out a sloppy joe}'' Mhm! Sloppy Joseph! ''{Takes a bite out of it, some spills on his star. The camera zooms in on the star.}'' Aw, crap!

''{Cut back to Homestar Runner leaning over the drawer.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Last up on the tour is this photo of Marzipan and I, on a honeymoon! ''{Pulls out a photo of Homestar and Marzipan on a beach, with a coupon for an oil filter taped above Marzipan.}'' Not ours! ''{Close up of the photo.}'' I think it was some couple from Canada's. ''{Cut back to Homestar and the drawer.}'' Or, Cancun...nada. ''{He puts the photo on his chest. The camera begins to zoom-in on him.}'' Ah, we were young and in every 3,000 miles back then!

''{Cut back to Homestar's desk, Homestar walks and sits down.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' So bring the kids on down, Chuck! ''{Close-up.}'' Nothing like a little educaysh at the ''{Pops up at the camera.}'' foundaysh! ''{Sits back down.}'' It's the best I could do on short notice. Unless you want to wait until 2012, ''{He pops up at the camera again. He talks in a louder tone.}'' when Homestar Dinoland will finally be complete!

''{Cut to close up on Arturo's screen; a [[postcard]] from Homestar Dinoland shows up. It consists of its logo at the top-left corner, with a silhouetted parking lot, as well with a silhouetted adult and child below. An angry dinosaur that has Homestar's hat is standing not too far from the parking lot.}''

'''NARRATOR:''' Homestar Dinoland opening July 2012. Actual attraction may just be a nightstand.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{The dinosaur's mouth moves with his dialog throughout.}'' A whaaaaaaat?

'''NARRATOR:''' ''{Hastily}'' I-I mean a drawer.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' A whaat?

'''NARRATOR:''' I mean, a dwaw.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{Angrily}'' A WHAT?

'''NARRATOR:''' ''{Exasperated sigh}''... a dweeoooowwwww.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' That's better!

''{"email homestar runner at djmankiewicz@homestarrunner.com" appears on the screen.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Once Homestar mentions the Rhinestone Jazzler, click on his star to see the product.

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*[[Arturo 9000]] is not a computer but a [[Wikipedia:Microform|microfiche reader]].
* "Sol" is both [[Spanish]] and Latin for "sun," as well as the official name for our star.

===Trivia===
*This toon was released after a 34 day release gap on the website.
*The oil coupon reads:
<blockquote style="border:dashed 2px #aaa;width:140px;text-align:center;">
$5.00 Off
 
'''FILTY''' '''oil filters''' 
Oil Filters or Lube
</blockquote>
*The front of the Rhinestone Jazzler box reads:
<blockquote>
<nowiki>*</nowiki>Not just a stapler! 
</blockquote>
While the side of the box reads:
<blockquote>
Umm... well, maybe it's sort of a stapler :p 
</blockquote>

===Remarks===
*Homestar manipulates three separate pieces of paper and the brellow crayon at the same time, which, given the position in which he's holding them, would normally require [[Lack of Visible Arms#Oddities|four arms]].

===Goofs===
[[Image:White_Wall.PNG|thumb|The Red Iculous white wall.]]

*An instant before zooming in on the drawer the third time, the red wall disappears.
*After Homestar picks up his Founding Father star and lowers his Supreme Emperor star, you can still click where the Emperor star was to bring up the Easter egg.
*When Homestar first holds up the Founding Father star, a small part of the pencil drawing on the front of it leaves where the star folds.
*In the honeymoon picture, the picture of Homestar blinks.

===Inside References===
* The concept of Homestar answering fan mail was first explored in [[email thunder]].
* Homestar called crayons "crowns" in [[coloring]].
* [[Scarfgirl]] was a magazine previously seen in [[secret identity]].
* Homestar pronounces "Cultural Advancement" in a faux [[French]] accent.
* Homestar was previously seen as a "founding father" in [[colonization]].
* Homestar called Strong Bad and The Cheat "young lovers" in [[road trip]].
* Homestar claims the honeymooning couple was from [[Canada]].
* The tune played at the opening of the hremail is a few seconds from the [[Theme Song Video|Homestar Runner Theme Song]].

===Real-World References===
* The "Jazzler" is based on the [[Wikipedia:Bedazzler|Bedazzler]], which has a similar function. Like the Jazzler, it also resembles a stapler.
* The origin of the brellow crayon is a reference to the "You got your chocolate in my peanut butter!" commercials for [[Wikipedia:Reese's Peanut Butter Cups|Reese's Peanut Butter Cups]].
* "That mess was like, four score!" refers to the opening of [[Presidents|Abraham Lincoln]]'s [[Wikipedia:Gettysburg Address|Gettysburg Address]]. Lincoln, speaking in 1863, dated the signing of the Declaration of Independence to "four score and seven years ago".

===Fast Forward===

*Homestar would once again thank his "shadow self" in the same way in [[Hremail 2000]].
==External Links==
*[[HR:hremail62.html|watch "Hremail 62"]]
*[[HR:hremail62.swf|view the Flash file for "Hremail 62"]]
*[[Forum:15048|forum thread re: "Hremail 62"]]

{{Hremail}}

[[Category:Hremail]]

Talk:Hremail 62

0rion — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:58:48 GMT

0rion: /* "Grammatically Incorrect" Remark */ Fixed signature

== Arturo 9000 ==

Based on the loading screen, and the physical design when we see it in full, the Arturo 9000 actually looks more like a microfiche viewer than a computer. [[User:kyojikasshu]] 10:09, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
: And, sure enough, the article gets edited as such, possibly even before I completed this post. [[User:kyojikasshu]] 10:11, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

:: What about Arturo being a reference to Dr. Arturo from Sliders? It's not a terribly common last name, and it's certainly the first thing a lot of people would think of. [[Special:Contributions/139.78.10.24|139.78.10.24]] 16:00, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Arturo is a first name too, the Spanish equivalent of "Arthur." As such, it's pretty common. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 17:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::In the US, "Arturo" is a more common last name than "Chaps" :) --[[User:SDSpivey|SDSpivey]] 17:11, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah, so is Chapman. :P --[[Special:Contributions/24.143.101.207|24.143.101.207]] 00:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

== Homestar's Homestars ==

i'm wondering, should there be a note on the Homestar "Clothing" section that Homestar calls his stars Homestars?

-Lachlan

these sure get up fast

== blink? ==

Could someone explain why Homestar's picture blinking is considered a "goof"? To me, it is something to be noted, since it is unusual, but how do we know it was not done intentionally? Clearly, TBC used a movie clip of H*R, and it gives the picture a funny Harry Potter feel. It doesn't seem like an error. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 17:55, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
: If they wanted to give it a "funny Harry Potter feel", the whole picture would have moved. Meanwhile, the "Homestar" object they use is always rigged to blink, and sometimes they've been known to forget when showing Homestar in in-universe photographs. If the sheep chewing grass in the paused KoT video is a Goof, then so is this. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:03, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::With that explanation, it's more make-sense. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 18:05, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::(PS. Actually, [[modeling]] would have been a better example, as the KoT's page doesn't split its facts, but yeah. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:07, 26 January 2009 (UTC))
::::I say it's not a goof, but a mystery. I watch Homestar flash movies with Firefox with a "pause flash" extension I use sometimes. And, bizarrely, Homestar's eyes blink ''even when the flash is paused''. --Hexagonal, an unregistered user.
:::::Yeah, it's because the loop of Homestar's Eyes blinking is a Flash movie clip, which animates continuously. (See [[Homestar Runner#Homestar's Eyes|this]] for more information) {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 23:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

its just like the wiki's homestar
:If TBC do something notable by accident, it's a goof. If TBC do something notable on purpose, then it's a remark. To me, using a blinking Homestar in a photo is clearly a deliberate attempt by TBC to slip in a little humour that most of their viewers won't spot straight away (since their attention is on something else). Hence, I'd describe it as a remark, not a goof. In fact, if I was allowed to be supreme emperor of the wiki for just one day, I would move all these blinking facts to Remarks. Please explain to me how TBC are "known to forget" about leaving this Flash movie clip in inappropiate places. Considering the amount of time they spend creating each animation, they'd easily notice this blinking movie clip and could simply swap it for a static image of Homestar's eyes if so desired. Do you have any transcripts of interviews where they specifically mention their habit of making this so-called mistake? If so, fine. If not, I stand by my rant. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:44, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::I see no humor in them doing it on purpose. It's a lot more believable and frankly, more likely that they forgot to swap out the animation, as it just uses the same flash object. Also, if you were supreme emperor for one day, then the day after that, there'd be a lot of reverting going on. But i digress. The point is, it's more likely unintentional, so unless we have an interview that says it's on PURPOSE, i think it should remain a goof. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:47, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I can see where it'd be humorous. A better question, I think is, are there instances of Homestar being in static pictures where he doesn't blink? (I don't know the answer) If so, it's likely that this is a goof, but if he blinks ''every'' time he's in a picture, I think that that's evidence for it being intentional. I don't think they'd forget so often. Essentially, my question is, which happens more often: Pictures of Homestar blink, or they do not? -[[Special:Contributions/140.247.11.38|140.247.11.38]] 22:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::::And, having just checked the modeling example, since he blinks at one point, but not another, it's probably a goof. -[[Special:Contributions/140.247.11.38|140.247.11.38]] 22:19, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Of course it's humorous. What could be funnier than a photo of Homestar that blinks when such a thing is impossible in real life? In any case, it probably doesn't really matter that much if it's a remark or a goof, so long as it's on the article. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:47, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== The Canadian Couple? ==

I wonder if that refers to the weekly fan stuff from Aug 05, the wedding invitation? That came from a Canadian couple. I hope so. That was me!

== dweeoooowwwww ==

Would dweeoooowwwww be a reference to the [[preeow|the sound]] that [[the paper|the original paper]] made?--[[User:Shaggy|Shaggy]] | [[User talk:Shaggy|talk]] 20:20, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:Not really, The Paper says Preeeow. That doesn't sound anything like that.--{{User:Record307/sig}} 20:45, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::It's just the narrator attempting to say "drawer" with Homestar's accent. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

== Oh, Yellow Crayon... ==

Is it just me, or did the "brellow crown" incident happen directly after the end of DNA Evidence? As Strong Sad walks in, he says to his crayon, "Oh, yellow crayon, only you know what REALLY happened!" (Maybe he means the crayon knows why the site was non-updated for so long, I don't know.) This just seems like a ref to me. Probably not though. User:WeirdAl 22:14, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:Uh, no, and I have no idea ''what'' you're talking about, frankly. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 22:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::He's saying that maybe Homsar and Strong Sad weren't the only ones who knew the truth behind the DNA Evidence. But even then, that's a stretch. --[[Special:Contributions/69.150.85.66|69.150.85.66]] 22:19, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Mmm... seems unlikely to me. Seems just like standard Strong Sad for him to talk to inanimate objects about his secrets. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 22:21, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Do we have an article on that? --[[Special:Contributions/69.150.85.66|69.150.85.66]] 22:22, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::''{Edit Conflict twice}'' I would call it a reference if there was even the slightest mention of crayons in DNA evidence, but there is not. As such, I'd just explain it like the Exhibit A/B stuff in [[Bug in Mouth Disease]]. Just more curious insights from the Brothers Chaps. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 22:23, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

== Lumper? ==

I realize it's ambiguous, but am I the only person who heard "lumple" ? It rhymes with dumple, and sounds adorable. I'm imagining a wee pre-duckshirt Homestar being positively cute and doing what a lumple does.
:Oh nevermind, they cleared it up in QOTW again! :)

== The "lack of visible arms" mystery perhaps deepens ==

Homestar demonstrates the primary uses of the brellow crown, and when the sheets of paper appear on screen, they come from the bottom and he waves the crown around them as though they're really in front of him, rather than them just being animated in front of him "in post".

So that's four objects total, manipulated at once, which I would think notable enough to be a "Remark" if we're all in agreement that he is in fact manipulating those objects. It breaks his record of three objects (is that his record?) in [[the_show|the show]]. (For those who don't feel like checking, he holds a mic, requiring one arm, and manipulates a small deck of cards, requiring two more.)

What does everybody else think?
[[User:Psi|Psi]] 01:15, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

:Everything you say is true (Well, the show isn't the only time he's manipulated 3 things. See the gross old wig). Still, I dunno if it's notable enough. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 01:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::Well, I think that it's possible for him to use only three arms, by doing this:
::*Holding the brœllow crayon with one arm.
::*Picking up the toast drawing with another.
::*Picking up the "zornets" drawing with the third.
::*Transferring the "zornets" drawing from the third arm to the second (by using his... ''fingers?'').
::*Doing the same with the sun drawing.
::But still, he ''could'' be using four arms, to save him the trouble of shuffling the papers a bit. But he doesn't appear to have much trouble holding his papers, so I guess he's using four arms. So... never mind. But it's possible that he only used three arms! — {{User:Fotoshop/sig}} 03:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== Homestar's email address ==

I remember seeing homestar's email address in another toon, but I don't remember which. His character page doesn't mention his email address either. What is the significance of the dj-whatever? Should it be a fun fact in this article? --[[Special:Contributions/67.161.16.203|67.161.16.203]] 03:24, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:Have a look at [[email thunder]]; that's the other place you saw it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:25, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::Anyone besides me either like Kirby or think that the Brothers Chaps deliberately made the "click here to email Homestar" unclickable? Like it's a message that they aren't going to start doing Hremails from now on? I can has cheezeburger? {{User:Neox/sig}} 04:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Look again, it does not say "click here". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:42, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Oh. Okay, then. Nevermind. Seriously though, anyone else like Kirby? ^_^ {{User:Neox/sig}} 19:22, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::What does Kirby have anything to do with this? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:23, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Nothing. Absolutely nothing. I just like Kirby. {{User:Neox/sig}} 03:56, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

== Mumbling ==

I'm not sure if this should be added to the page, but it seemed to me that Homestar's mumbling in the colonial days scene was similar to the noises Homestar made when demonstrating the secret handshake of the [[Broternal Order of Different Helmets]].--[[Special:Contributions/151.197.125.35|151.197.125.35]] 05:52, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
: It's just mumbling, really. Can't say there's enough similarity. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:46, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:: But it sounds exactly the same. It is "mm hum hoom hoom hum HOOM", in the exact same tone. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 20:43, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
== Crowns ==

Homestar isn't really calling crayons "crowns," he's just pronouncing the word that way. The crown spelling is probably most accurate for the transcript, but other references should be spelled properly (crayon). That is, he says, "brellow crown," but he has a brellow crayon. This is a somewhat common pronunciation of the word in certain areas of the US. Google 'pronounce crayons crowns' (no quotes) and you'll see plenty of evidence.
:Agree. No one calls crayons "crowns", but apparently a significant number of people (a few I've known personally) pronounce "crayon" such that it sounds that way. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.94|132.183.151.94]] 16:32, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::Yes. This is definately "crayons" pronounced with HR's accent. There's even a syllable in the making the finished word sound "cwou-ons" If it was "crowns" I would'nt have put that hyphen there. {{User:Strongkinghomsarsmith/sig}} 00:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I think it's just Homestar being Homestar. Not really makes a lot of sense, but to Homestar... <_< >_> {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 00:28, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::::When I was very young, I took music classes from this one guy. It was a LONG time ago, so I don't remember much (but then again, I can't remember a lot of things :P). But I DO remember a few things: I listened to Radio Disney on the drive there; there was a Domino's Pizza nearby; one time Fantasia was playing in the waiting room and I saw the monks holding candles walking through the forest, which was the Ave Maria part; ''''the teacher liked to pronounce "crayons" "crowns".''''' {{User:Neox/sig}} 04:58, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::I agree with MichaelXX2. It's not just a mispronunciation; Homestar is substituting a word with a different word which sounds similar, just like "light globes." [[User:MenacingBanjo|MenacingBanjo]] 16:22, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
dosent anyone remember the sbemail coloring? in marzipan's *cough* cult *cough* homestar called them crowns. i think he thinks they are called crowns

== smooth mouth ==

I noticed that sometimes Homestar's mouth closes more smoothly. Does this count as a character design update? [[Image:Hsr smallmouth.png|thumb|New design?]] {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:33, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:I was going to mention that too. I also noticed that the shadow on the soles of his feet is lighter now. [[User:Omnisweater|Omnisweater]] 20:41, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::It's not entirely new. It's been around at least since [[Coach Z's 110%]], [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner_Evolution&diff=618270&oldid=610120 reportedly]. As you can see by checking the history of that page, a new mouth animation doesn't really count as a design. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:02, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::Whenever he squints he has something below his eyes too. Notice in [[A Death-Defying Decemberween]]

== Homestar's Computer ==

I distinctly remember in email thunder that Homestar had the Happy8600 for a computer. Why does he now have the Arturo 9000? Did anyone else notice this?
:Do you also recall that Strong Bad poured Mountain Dew all over it, causing sparks? I think that's all that needs to be said. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:13, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

::But didn't that happen to [[Compy 386|Strong Bad's Computer]] in [[anything|the hremail disguised as a sbemail]]? It worked. One of the very few spots where [[Compy 386|the old]] acts like [[Happy 8600|the new]]. [[User:Meaty85203|Meaty85203]] 04:17, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== "Grammatically Incorrect" Remark ==

Beside this being unnecessary, wouldn't the proper one BE "Marzipan and I"? –[[Special:Contributions/24.118.124.166|24.118.124.166]] 22:22, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:Nope. (though it is kinda unnecessary. "Fun" facts, and all.) -[[Special:Contributions/140.247.11.38|140.247.11.38]] 22:25, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:: We've discussed this in [[secret identity|another toon]], and it's just as incorrect here as it was then. Rule of thumb:
::* If you can replace "[person] and I" with "us", then it should be "me". If with "we", then it should be "I". ("Last up on the tour is this photo of we"???)
::* If you remove "person" from the sentence, then the pronoun will remain the same. ("Last up on the tour is this photo of I"???)
:: "[person] and I" is more correct than "me and [person]" in the ''subject'' of a sentence, but not the object. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:48, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Homestar's grammar is rarely correct
::::Perhaps, but the imaginary grammar rule that Homestar "followed" is considered correct by enough people, and there is no joke associated with his incorrect usage, that I think it was more likely TBC's mistake, not Homestar's. As per the last time we had this discussion, see [[Wikipedia:Hypercorrection|this page]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:28, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yup, this remark is a perfectly good fact. As a note on 140.247's remark: The word "fun" in "Fun Fact" is really just for alliteration. A more accurate term would be "noteworthy facts", but that doesn't sound nice, so we call them "fun facts". It's definitely worth noting Homestar's/TBC's error. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:32, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Indeed. This should be kept, for all reasons stated. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:39, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I disagree wholeheartedly. It should be dropped, not because it's true or untrue, but because it's not worth mentioning. The Homestar Runner crew makes grammatical mistakes (both intentional and unintentional) all the time. It's such a minor thing, it's REALLY not worth pointing out at all. The "fun fact" should be removed without question. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 13:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

==DNA Evidence reference?==

Strong Sad's quote "only you know what really happened" is a reference to DNA Evidence. [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 04:17, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

:[[Talk:Hremail 62#Oh, Yellow Crayon...|Not necessarily...]] -{{User:YK/sig}} 04:20, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== Twenty Twelve ==

It's been added to the page at least twice, so let me just squish this annoying little "fact": first of all, there's no evidence that the Mayans believed the world would end in 2012; that's just how far their calendar went (for reasons similar to the fact 2000 is significant; ie. numerical reasons, not actual ''significance'' reasons.) Secondly, the calendar ends in ''December'' of 2012, not July! And one more thing: it has nothing to do with this toon. They could have picked 2011 or 2020 or whatever and the joke (such that there was one) would have been the same. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:35, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:I agree, it's just a coincidence. --[[Special:Contributions/71.58.29.180|71.58.29.180]] 13:05, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::Personally, I wouldn't put it past the creators to have Homestar create a park featuring dinosaurs which would be "extinct" later that year. The relevance isn't about what the Mayans did or didn't believe. It's about what some people believe today (whether or not they have evidence to back it up). It's popular knowledge and it's not out of the question that the creators would use it. Having said that, if it was a joke referring to the Mayan calendar, it could have been set up better, like setting it in November.
:::I'd say, if it was a joke referring to the Mayan calendar, it would have been set up at all; there was no setup to such a joke besides naming a year that happens to be three years from now. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:53, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Could we note that Homestar calls it "twenty twelve" while the '[[Generic Announcers|narrator]],' who has yet to be added, calls it "two thousand twelve"? I always perfer the first version over the second just like I do the Blu-ray Disc logo over the ''{shudder}'' HD DVD logo.--[[Special:Contributions/97.72.193.36|97.72.193.36]] 23:35, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

== brellow crayon and/or stars page ==

Should the brellow crayon (and potentially the "old homestars") have an article? They seem to meet the "Be unique to homestar runner and play a significant role in one toon" requirement. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.31|132.183.138.31]] 15:31, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== Dance your twees to Sal Soul ==

The picture of the sun with an afro being titled "Sal Soul" is most likely a reference to either
*[[Wikipedia:Salsoul Records|Salsoul Records]] or
*[[Wikipedia:Salsoul Orchestra|The Salsoul Orchestra]]

Not sure whether to put one, the other, both, or neither. I'll leave it to the community at large. [[User:Agnamaracs|Agnamaracs]] 18:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:I'm afraid he's mistaken. The Picture said '''Sol Soul'''. Not sal soul. And there's already an explanation on the page already.---{{User:Record307/sig}} 20:15, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::It could definitely still be a reference. There's nothing that says a parody has to match its basis's spelling exactly. And the logo for salsoul records does resemble the picture a lot (I don't know anything about the other option given). Still, sol and soul are homophones, and it's definitely not a huge stretch to imagine that they arrived at the joke independently. So in the end, I'm not sure. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.31|132.183.138.31]] 20:38, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:::It's more likely that "Sol" refers to the proper name for the sun, Sol. The "Soul" part likely refers to the afro, and its connections to the 80s. {{User:Strongkinghomsarsmith/sig}} 15:36, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

== honymoon photo ==

can we get the honey moon photo flash decomplied please? (to see the whole picture) {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:15, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:Its obviously just marzipan--[[User:Luis123|Luis123]] 01:56, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::Not necessarily. TBC occasionally hide things in the flash, and this is the exact type of place where they would do it. We won't know until we decompile. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:58, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:::There isn't anything. I just checked. [[User:Omnisweater|Omnisweater]] 02:13, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

OK so, I don't know how to decompile. Could somebody tell me how? I want to see some of these flash decompiler easter eggs. {{User:Coach z's cool/sig}} 03:52, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, I'm interested as well! [[User:Son|Son]] 20:43, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::Well, decompiling Flash files is pretty simple, all you need is a certain decompiler program, like [http://www.flash-decompiler.com/ Flash Decompiler Trillix], or something. Most of these programs cost money, but there are demo versions available. {{User:ThePizz/sig}} 20:50, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

== my 21st birthday is 1 month away from homestar's park completion. ==

I'll be 21 in August 2012. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 01:18, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:You know, this is a GREAT thing to say on the forum... not so great to say here though. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:20, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

== Bro-ellow ==

Okay, it seems that, for a while, everyone insisted on calling the crayon "br&oelig;llow". Now DorianGray and Phlip are swinging the pendulum back the other way to "brellow". To begin: Any arguments about pronunciation are '''moot''': "&oelig;" can be pronounced as a soft "E" (and its ''other'' correct pronunciation is as a long "E" - you basically never pronounce it as if it has an "O".) So don't argue that point. Argue instead on your own preference: "br&oelig;llow" is closer to what's written on the crayon, while "brellow" is easier to write. Me? Undecided, I just want the Wiki to ''pick one and stick with it''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:I say we stick to what's written on the crayon. '''br&oelig;llow''' We have plenty of redirects in place for people to get to it without the &oelig;. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 10:48, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::But the crayon only really says "br&oelig;llow" when you're horribly scaled in... at normal zoom levels, it's just "br[tiny sliver of o]ellow". There's also the question of what is least likely to confuse the reader... especially, for the subtitles, a reader who hasn't heard it being said aloud. And despite what you say, the fact is that "&oelig;" (or, for that matter, "oe") in English to represent a short "e" is all but extinct... even it representing a long "e" is going out of fashion, and most readers will associate "oe" with words like "foe" or "shoe" or any of the other pronunciations which ''do'' pronounce the "o". Now, I'd go for "&oelig;" if the toon made any reference to it being that... any jokes, or even mention it at all... but it doesn't. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:13, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I'm with Phlip, basically for the sake of keeping it simple. I'd be totally cool with noting on the article that it can be seen as saying "br&oelig;llow" (depending on how closely you bother looking), but the default might as well be the more obvious spelling. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:21, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Not that i'm happy with it, but i'd propose a compromise where when it's actually spoken about like in a quote or transcript of subtitles it says "brellow" while when we're just writing ABOUT it it says "br&oelig;llow". The crayon is LABELED "br&oelig;llow" and that's how it should be presented when written. I'm also betting that if the flash is decompiled that under the yellow line it actually says "&oelig;". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well, can you do that decompliation? Anyway, I'd prefer brellow. It's much simpler and easier for the reader.-[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 18:08, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::I don't have either a decompiler, or a computer i can install one on. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:56, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::[[Image:Brellow pieces.png|thumb|right|Mathematically proven]] Nope. It's just the text "BROWN", with the right half covered by the yellow shape, and the word "YELLOW" (which has been converted to a shape, and its left part erased... possibly by hand, possibly flattened by the Flash compiler automatically removing a mask or something). I don't think having it be spelled differently in the transcripts and elsewhere is the right solution... consistency is important, having two standards for the spelling will only be confusing. I think it should be "Brellow" everywhere, but I agree with Heimi, that I wouldn't be opposed to a Trivia item that mentioned "Br&oelig;llow". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:15, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Seeing as they don't use the OE thing in the actual flash object, I don't think we should in our transcripts either. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 21:17, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I know when i've been beat. Brellow it is! Just have it noted SOMEwhere that it could be oelig'd please. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:22, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Hremail 62

0rion — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:58:03 GMT

0rion: /* "Grammatically Incorrect" Remark */

== Arturo 9000 ==

Based on the loading screen, and the physical design when we see it in full, the Arturo 9000 actually looks more like a microfiche viewer than a computer. [[User:kyojikasshu]] 10:09, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
: And, sure enough, the article gets edited as such, possibly even before I completed this post. [[User:kyojikasshu]] 10:11, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

:: What about Arturo being a reference to Dr. Arturo from Sliders? It's not a terribly common last name, and it's certainly the first thing a lot of people would think of. [[Special:Contributions/139.78.10.24|139.78.10.24]] 16:00, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Arturo is a first name too, the Spanish equivalent of "Arthur." As such, it's pretty common. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 17:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::In the US, "Arturo" is a more common last name than "Chaps" :) --[[User:SDSpivey|SDSpivey]] 17:11, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah, so is Chapman. :P --[[Special:Contributions/24.143.101.207|24.143.101.207]] 00:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

== Homestar's Homestars ==

i'm wondering, should there be a note on the Homestar "Clothing" section that Homestar calls his stars Homestars?

-Lachlan

these sure get up fast

== blink? ==

Could someone explain why Homestar's picture blinking is considered a "goof"? To me, it is something to be noted, since it is unusual, but how do we know it was not done intentionally? Clearly, TBC used a movie clip of H*R, and it gives the picture a funny Harry Potter feel. It doesn't seem like an error. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 17:55, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
: If they wanted to give it a "funny Harry Potter feel", the whole picture would have moved. Meanwhile, the "Homestar" object they use is always rigged to blink, and sometimes they've been known to forget when showing Homestar in in-universe photographs. If the sheep chewing grass in the paused KoT video is a Goof, then so is this. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:03, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::With that explanation, it's more make-sense. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 18:05, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::(PS. Actually, [[modeling]] would have been a better example, as the KoT's page doesn't split its facts, but yeah. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:07, 26 January 2009 (UTC))
::::I say it's not a goof, but a mystery. I watch Homestar flash movies with Firefox with a "pause flash" extension I use sometimes. And, bizarrely, Homestar's eyes blink ''even when the flash is paused''. --Hexagonal, an unregistered user.
:::::Yeah, it's because the loop of Homestar's Eyes blinking is a Flash movie clip, which animates continuously. (See [[Homestar Runner#Homestar's Eyes|this]] for more information) {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 23:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

its just like the wiki's homestar
:If TBC do something notable by accident, it's a goof. If TBC do something notable on purpose, then it's a remark. To me, using a blinking Homestar in a photo is clearly a deliberate attempt by TBC to slip in a little humour that most of their viewers won't spot straight away (since their attention is on something else). Hence, I'd describe it as a remark, not a goof. In fact, if I was allowed to be supreme emperor of the wiki for just one day, I would move all these blinking facts to Remarks. Please explain to me how TBC are "known to forget" about leaving this Flash movie clip in inappropiate places. Considering the amount of time they spend creating each animation, they'd easily notice this blinking movie clip and could simply swap it for a static image of Homestar's eyes if so desired. Do you have any transcripts of interviews where they specifically mention their habit of making this so-called mistake? If so, fine. If not, I stand by my rant. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:44, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::I see no humor in them doing it on purpose. It's a lot more believable and frankly, more likely that they forgot to swap out the animation, as it just uses the same flash object. Also, if you were supreme emperor for one day, then the day after that, there'd be a lot of reverting going on. But i digress. The point is, it's more likely unintentional, so unless we have an interview that says it's on PURPOSE, i think it should remain a goof. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:47, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I can see where it'd be humorous. A better question, I think is, are there instances of Homestar being in static pictures where he doesn't blink? (I don't know the answer) If so, it's likely that this is a goof, but if he blinks ''every'' time he's in a picture, I think that that's evidence for it being intentional. I don't think they'd forget so often. Essentially, my question is, which happens more often: Pictures of Homestar blink, or they do not? -[[Special:Contributions/140.247.11.38|140.247.11.38]] 22:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::::And, having just checked the modeling example, since he blinks at one point, but not another, it's probably a goof. -[[Special:Contributions/140.247.11.38|140.247.11.38]] 22:19, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Of course it's humorous. What could be funnier than a photo of Homestar that blinks when such a thing is impossible in real life? In any case, it probably doesn't really matter that much if it's a remark or a goof, so long as it's on the article. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:47, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== The Canadian Couple? ==

I wonder if that refers to the weekly fan stuff from Aug 05, the wedding invitation? That came from a Canadian couple. I hope so. That was me!

== dweeoooowwwww ==

Would dweeoooowwwww be a reference to the [[preeow|the sound]] that [[the paper|the original paper]] made?--[[User:Shaggy|Shaggy]] | [[User talk:Shaggy|talk]] 20:20, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:Not really, The Paper says Preeeow. That doesn't sound anything like that.--{{User:Record307/sig}} 20:45, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::It's just the narrator attempting to say "drawer" with Homestar's accent. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

== Oh, Yellow Crayon... ==

Is it just me, or did the "brellow crown" incident happen directly after the end of DNA Evidence? As Strong Sad walks in, he says to his crayon, "Oh, yellow crayon, only you know what REALLY happened!" (Maybe he means the crayon knows why the site was non-updated for so long, I don't know.) This just seems like a ref to me. Probably not though. User:WeirdAl 22:14, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:Uh, no, and I have no idea ''what'' you're talking about, frankly. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 22:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::He's saying that maybe Homsar and Strong Sad weren't the only ones who knew the truth behind the DNA Evidence. But even then, that's a stretch. --[[Special:Contributions/69.150.85.66|69.150.85.66]] 22:19, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Mmm... seems unlikely to me. Seems just like standard Strong Sad for him to talk to inanimate objects about his secrets. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 22:21, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Do we have an article on that? --[[Special:Contributions/69.150.85.66|69.150.85.66]] 22:22, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::''{Edit Conflict twice}'' I would call it a reference if there was even the slightest mention of crayons in DNA evidence, but there is not. As such, I'd just explain it like the Exhibit A/B stuff in [[Bug in Mouth Disease]]. Just more curious insights from the Brothers Chaps. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 22:23, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

== Lumper? ==

I realize it's ambiguous, but am I the only person who heard "lumple" ? It rhymes with dumple, and sounds adorable. I'm imagining a wee pre-duckshirt Homestar being positively cute and doing what a lumple does.
:Oh nevermind, they cleared it up in QOTW again! :)

== The "lack of visible arms" mystery perhaps deepens ==

Homestar demonstrates the primary uses of the brellow crown, and when the sheets of paper appear on screen, they come from the bottom and he waves the crown around them as though they're really in front of him, rather than them just being animated in front of him "in post".

So that's four objects total, manipulated at once, which I would think notable enough to be a "Remark" if we're all in agreement that he is in fact manipulating those objects. It breaks his record of three objects (is that his record?) in [[the_show|the show]]. (For those who don't feel like checking, he holds a mic, requiring one arm, and manipulates a small deck of cards, requiring two more.)

What does everybody else think?
[[User:Psi|Psi]] 01:15, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

:Everything you say is true (Well, the show isn't the only time he's manipulated 3 things. See the gross old wig). Still, I dunno if it's notable enough. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 01:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::Well, I think that it's possible for him to use only three arms, by doing this:
::*Holding the brœllow crayon with one arm.
::*Picking up the toast drawing with another.
::*Picking up the "zornets" drawing with the third.
::*Transferring the "zornets" drawing from the third arm to the second (by using his... ''fingers?'').
::*Doing the same with the sun drawing.
::But still, he ''could'' be using four arms, to save him the trouble of shuffling the papers a bit. But he doesn't appear to have much trouble holding his papers, so I guess he's using four arms. So... never mind. But it's possible that he only used three arms! — {{User:Fotoshop/sig}} 03:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== Homestar's email address ==

I remember seeing homestar's email address in another toon, but I don't remember which. His character page doesn't mention his email address either. What is the significance of the dj-whatever? Should it be a fun fact in this article? --[[Special:Contributions/67.161.16.203|67.161.16.203]] 03:24, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:Have a look at [[email thunder]]; that's the other place you saw it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:25, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::Anyone besides me either like Kirby or think that the Brothers Chaps deliberately made the "click here to email Homestar" unclickable? Like it's a message that they aren't going to start doing Hremails from now on? I can has cheezeburger? {{User:Neox/sig}} 04:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Look again, it does not say "click here". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:42, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Oh. Okay, then. Nevermind. Seriously though, anyone else like Kirby? ^_^ {{User:Neox/sig}} 19:22, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::What does Kirby have anything to do with this? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:23, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Nothing. Absolutely nothing. I just like Kirby. {{User:Neox/sig}} 03:56, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

== Mumbling ==

I'm not sure if this should be added to the page, but it seemed to me that Homestar's mumbling in the colonial days scene was similar to the noises Homestar made when demonstrating the secret handshake of the [[Broternal Order of Different Helmets]].--[[Special:Contributions/151.197.125.35|151.197.125.35]] 05:52, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
: It's just mumbling, really. Can't say there's enough similarity. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:46, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:: But it sounds exactly the same. It is "mm hum hoom hoom hum HOOM", in the exact same tone. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 20:43, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
== Crowns ==

Homestar isn't really calling crayons "crowns," he's just pronouncing the word that way. The crown spelling is probably most accurate for the transcript, but other references should be spelled properly (crayon). That is, he says, "brellow crown," but he has a brellow crayon. This is a somewhat common pronunciation of the word in certain areas of the US. Google 'pronounce crayons crowns' (no quotes) and you'll see plenty of evidence.
:Agree. No one calls crayons "crowns", but apparently a significant number of people (a few I've known personally) pronounce "crayon" such that it sounds that way. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.94|132.183.151.94]] 16:32, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::Yes. This is definately "crayons" pronounced with HR's accent. There's even a syllable in the making the finished word sound "cwou-ons" If it was "crowns" I would'nt have put that hyphen there. {{User:Strongkinghomsarsmith/sig}} 00:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I think it's just Homestar being Homestar. Not really makes a lot of sense, but to Homestar... <_< >_> {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 00:28, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::::When I was very young, I took music classes from this one guy. It was a LONG time ago, so I don't remember much (but then again, I can't remember a lot of things :P). But I DO remember a few things: I listened to Radio Disney on the drive there; there was a Domino's Pizza nearby; one time Fantasia was playing in the waiting room and I saw the monks holding candles walking through the forest, which was the Ave Maria part; ''''the teacher liked to pronounce "crayons" "crowns".''''' {{User:Neox/sig}} 04:58, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::I agree with MichaelXX2. It's not just a mispronunciation; Homestar is substituting a word with a different word which sounds similar, just like "light globes." [[User:MenacingBanjo|MenacingBanjo]] 16:22, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
dosent anyone remember the sbemail coloring? in marzipan's *cough* cult *cough* homestar called them crowns. i think he thinks they are called crowns

== smooth mouth ==

I noticed that sometimes Homestar's mouth closes more smoothly. Does this count as a character design update? [[Image:Hsr smallmouth.png|thumb|New design?]] {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:33, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:I was going to mention that too. I also noticed that the shadow on the soles of his feet is lighter now. [[User:Omnisweater|Omnisweater]] 20:41, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::It's not entirely new. It's been around at least since [[Coach Z's 110%]], [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner_Evolution&diff=618270&oldid=610120 reportedly]. As you can see by checking the history of that page, a new mouth animation doesn't really count as a design. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:02, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::Whenever he squints he has something below his eyes too. Notice in [[A Death-Defying Decemberween]]

== Homestar's Computer ==

I distinctly remember in email thunder that Homestar had the Happy8600 for a computer. Why does he now have the Arturo 9000? Did anyone else notice this?
:Do you also recall that Strong Bad poured Mountain Dew all over it, causing sparks? I think that's all that needs to be said. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:13, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

::But didn't that happen to [[Compy 386|Strong Bad's Computer]] in [[anything|the hremail disguised as a sbemail]]? It worked. One of the very few spots where [[Compy 386|the old]] acts like [[Happy 8600|the new]]. [[User:Meaty85203|Meaty85203]] 04:17, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== "Grammatically Incorrect" Remark ==

Beside this being unnecessary, wouldn't the proper one BE "Marzipan and I"? –[[Special:Contributions/24.118.124.166|24.118.124.166]] 22:22, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:Nope. (though it is kinda unnecessary. "Fun" facts, and all.) -[[Special:Contributions/140.247.11.38|140.247.11.38]] 22:25, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:: We've discussed this in [[secret identity|another toon]], and it's just as incorrect here as it was then. Rule of thumb:
::* If you can replace "[person] and I" with "us", then it should be "me". If with "we", then it should be "I". ("Last up on the tour is this photo of we"???)
::* If you remove "person" from the sentence, then the pronoun will remain the same. ("Last up on the tour is this photo of I"???)
:: "[person] and I" is more correct than "me and [person]" in the ''subject'' of a sentence, but not the object. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:48, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Homestar's grammar is rarely correct
::::Perhaps, but the imaginary grammar rule that Homestar "followed" is considered correct by enough people, and there is no joke associated with his incorrect usage, that I think it was more likely TBC's mistake, not Homestar's. As per the last time we had this discussion, see [[Wikipedia:Hypercorrection|this page]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:28, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yup, this remark is a perfectly good fact. As a note on 140.247's remark: The word "fun" in "Fun Fact" is really just for alliteration. A more accurate term would be "noteworthy facts", but that doesn't sound nice, so we call them "fun facts". It's definitely worth noting Homestar's/TBC's error. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:32, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Indeed. This should be kept, for all reasons stated. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:39, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I disagree wholeheartedly. It should be dropped, not because it's true or untrue, but because it's not worth mentioning. The Homestar Runner crew makes grammatical mistakes (both intentional and unintentional) all the time. It's such a minor thing, it's REALLY not worth pointing out at all. The "fun fact" should be removed without question. [[User:0rion|0rion]]

==DNA Evidence reference?==

Strong Sad's quote "only you know what really happened" is a reference to DNA Evidence. [[User:StarFox|StarFox]] 04:17, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

:[[Talk:Hremail 62#Oh, Yellow Crayon...|Not necessarily...]] -{{User:YK/sig}} 04:20, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== Twenty Twelve ==

It's been added to the page at least twice, so let me just squish this annoying little "fact": first of all, there's no evidence that the Mayans believed the world would end in 2012; that's just how far their calendar went (for reasons similar to the fact 2000 is significant; ie. numerical reasons, not actual ''significance'' reasons.) Secondly, the calendar ends in ''December'' of 2012, not July! And one more thing: it has nothing to do with this toon. They could have picked 2011 or 2020 or whatever and the joke (such that there was one) would have been the same. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:35, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:I agree, it's just a coincidence. --[[Special:Contributions/71.58.29.180|71.58.29.180]] 13:05, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::Personally, I wouldn't put it past the creators to have Homestar create a park featuring dinosaurs which would be "extinct" later that year. The relevance isn't about what the Mayans did or didn't believe. It's about what some people believe today (whether or not they have evidence to back it up). It's popular knowledge and it's not out of the question that the creators would use it. Having said that, if it was a joke referring to the Mayan calendar, it could have been set up better, like setting it in November.
:::I'd say, if it was a joke referring to the Mayan calendar, it would have been set up at all; there was no setup to such a joke besides naming a year that happens to be three years from now. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:53, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Could we note that Homestar calls it "twenty twelve" while the '[[Generic Announcers|narrator]],' who has yet to be added, calls it "two thousand twelve"? I always perfer the first version over the second just like I do the Blu-ray Disc logo over the ''{shudder}'' HD DVD logo.--[[Special:Contributions/97.72.193.36|97.72.193.36]] 23:35, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

== brellow crayon and/or stars page ==

Should the brellow crayon (and potentially the "old homestars") have an article? They seem to meet the "Be unique to homestar runner and play a significant role in one toon" requirement. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.31|132.183.138.31]] 15:31, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== Dance your twees to Sal Soul ==

The picture of the sun with an afro being titled "Sal Soul" is most likely a reference to either
*[[Wikipedia:Salsoul Records|Salsoul Records]] or
*[[Wikipedia:Salsoul Orchestra|The Salsoul Orchestra]]

Not sure whether to put one, the other, both, or neither. I'll leave it to the community at large. [[User:Agnamaracs|Agnamaracs]] 18:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:I'm afraid he's mistaken. The Picture said '''Sol Soul'''. Not sal soul. And there's already an explanation on the page already.---{{User:Record307/sig}} 20:15, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::It could definitely still be a reference. There's nothing that says a parody has to match its basis's spelling exactly. And the logo for salsoul records does resemble the picture a lot (I don't know anything about the other option given). Still, sol and soul are homophones, and it's definitely not a huge stretch to imagine that they arrived at the joke independently. So in the end, I'm not sure. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.138.31|132.183.138.31]] 20:38, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:::It's more likely that "Sol" refers to the proper name for the sun, Sol. The "Soul" part likely refers to the afro, and its connections to the 80s. {{User:Strongkinghomsarsmith/sig}} 15:36, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

== honymoon photo ==

can we get the honey moon photo flash decomplied please? (to see the whole picture) {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:15, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:Its obviously just marzipan--[[User:Luis123|Luis123]] 01:56, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::Not necessarily. TBC occasionally hide things in the flash, and this is the exact type of place where they would do it. We won't know until we decompile. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:58, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:::There isn't anything. I just checked. [[User:Omnisweater|Omnisweater]] 02:13, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

OK so, I don't know how to decompile. Could somebody tell me how? I want to see some of these flash decompiler easter eggs. {{User:Coach z's cool/sig}} 03:52, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, I'm interested as well! [[User:Son|Son]] 20:43, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::Well, decompiling Flash files is pretty simple, all you need is a certain decompiler program, like [http://www.flash-decompiler.com/ Flash Decompiler Trillix], or something. Most of these programs cost money, but there are demo versions available. {{User:ThePizz/sig}} 20:50, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

== my 21st birthday is 1 month away from homestar's park completion. ==

I'll be 21 in August 2012. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 01:18, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:You know, this is a GREAT thing to say on the forum... not so great to say here though. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:20, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

== Bro-ellow ==

Okay, it seems that, for a while, everyone insisted on calling the crayon "br&oelig;llow". Now DorianGray and Phlip are swinging the pendulum back the other way to "brellow". To begin: Any arguments about pronunciation are '''moot''': "&oelig;" can be pronounced as a soft "E" (and its ''other'' correct pronunciation is as a long "E" - you basically never pronounce it as if it has an "O".) So don't argue that point. Argue instead on your own preference: "br&oelig;llow" is closer to what's written on the crayon, while "brellow" is easier to write. Me? Undecided, I just want the Wiki to ''pick one and stick with it''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:I say we stick to what's written on the crayon. '''br&oelig;llow''' We have plenty of redirects in place for people to get to it without the &oelig;. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 10:48, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::But the crayon only really says "br&oelig;llow" when you're horribly scaled in... at normal zoom levels, it's just "br[tiny sliver of o]ellow". There's also the question of what is least likely to confuse the reader... especially, for the subtitles, a reader who hasn't heard it being said aloud. And despite what you say, the fact is that "&oelig;" (or, for that matter, "oe") in English to represent a short "e" is all but extinct... even it representing a long "e" is going out of fashion, and most readers will associate "oe" with words like "foe" or "shoe" or any of the other pronunciations which ''do'' pronounce the "o". Now, I'd go for "&oelig;" if the toon made any reference to it being that... any jokes, or even mention it at all... but it doesn't. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:13, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I'm with Phlip, basically for the sake of keeping it simple. I'd be totally cool with noting on the article that it can be seen as saying "br&oelig;llow" (depending on how closely you bother looking), but the default might as well be the more obvious spelling. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 11:21, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Not that i'm happy with it, but i'd propose a compromise where when it's actually spoken about like in a quote or transcript of subtitles it says "brellow" while when we're just writing ABOUT it it says "br&oelig;llow". The crayon is LABELED "br&oelig;llow" and that's how it should be presented when written. I'm also betting that if the flash is decompiled that under the yellow line it actually says "&oelig;". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well, can you do that decompliation? Anyway, I'd prefer brellow. It's much simpler and easier for the reader.-[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 18:08, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::I don't have either a decompiler, or a computer i can install one on. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:56, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::[[Image:Brellow pieces.png|thumb|right|Mathematically proven]] Nope. It's just the text "BROWN", with the right half covered by the yellow shape, and the word "YELLOW" (which has been converted to a shape, and its left part erased... possibly by hand, possibly flattened by the Flash compiler automatically removing a mask or something). I don't think having it be spelled differently in the transcripts and elsewhere is the right solution... consistency is important, having two standards for the spelling will only be confusing. I think it should be "Brellow" everywhere, but I agree with Heimi, that I wouldn't be opposed to a Trivia item that mentioned "Br&oelig;llow". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:15, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Seeing as they don't use the OE thing in the actual flash object, I don't think we should in our transcripts either. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 21:17, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I know when i've been beat. Brellow it is! Just have it noted SOMEwhere that it could be oelig'd please. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:22, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

User:DorianGray/Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns

0rion — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:46:59 GMT

0rion: /* Homsar's Speech in Chronological Order */ Added proper link and additional thoughts.

'''Homsar's speech patterns''' are quite unusual, and many believe that his strange way of speaking is the result of a mental disorder such as [[Wikipedia:Word salad (mental health)|word salad]], a condition in which sentence structure and grammar are intact, but individual words are picked at random and have no particular meaning. This article pulls together all of the things [[Homsar]] has said since his introduction in the [[Homestar Runner universe]], identifies the context of each line, and determines whether or not the line qualifies as a word salad.

== Homsar's Speech in Chronological Order ==

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! Quote !! Toon !! Context !! Comments
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| "Uhdyeah, what ees it, Strong Bayaad?"
| Email [[homsar]] (2001)
| Responding to [[Strong Bad]], who had just gotten his attention.
| This is a simple greeting.
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| "DaAAahhh, hello, [[Marzipan|Marzypa-yun]]. It's Homsar! Dahhh, I was just calling to thank you for the flowers you sent me while I was in the hospital. Daahh, I'm feeling much better now, but I still can't feel my leeegs. Okay, bye-dee-bye."
| [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]] (Dec. 2001/Jan. 2002)
| Homsar has presumably recovered from having the [[Heavy Lourde]] dropped on him.
| Homsar speaks in basically perfect (if exaggerated) English in this message.
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|
*"I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for some candy today!"
*"YaAaAaAh, I'm the original ladies' man!"
*"If you give me a treat, make sure that it's sweet, and I'll eeeat iiiiiit..."
*"Oh no, I think this is my favorite!"
| [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] (Oct. 27, 2001)
| Homsar's intro, and then his lines after being handed Shavin' Creem, black and orange taffy, and a wrench, respectively.
| His intro is a paraphrasing of the catch phrase of [[Wikipedia:J. Wellington Wimpy|Wimpy]], the character from the [[Wikipedia:Popeye|Popeye]] cartoons (who he is dressed as), namely "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today." His responses to the treats are strange, but not completely random.
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|
*"Oh no! You shanked my Jengaship!"
*"AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hey, Tubbs! I just lost my Jengajam."
| [[Where's The Cheat?]] (Feb. 25, 2002)
| Homsar is playing Connect Four with [[Strong Sad]], then speaks to [[Bubs]] when he enters the room.
| Homsar's line does reference two games, although not the one he is actually playing, Connect Four, as Strong Sad observes. He doesn't quite get Bubs' name right.
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| "AaAaAaAaAaAaA!!! I'm saving the best for last!"
| Email [[your friends]] (Oct. 14, 2002)
| During the montage, Strong Bad buries Homsar and covers him with scorpions, which begin to crawl into his mouth.
| It is debatable whether Homsar's phrase has any connection to his predicament. If it is connected, it would seem to imply that he enjoys eating scorpions.
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* "I'm the ghost of Christmas past."
* "And also with you."
| [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] (Oct. 29, 2002)
| [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] and [[The Cheat]] walk up to Homsar, whose "pumpkin" is an eggplant with a spoon taped to it.
| Homsar's first response references ''A Christmas Carol'', while his second line is a common response in many religious prayers. Both have some connection to the scene, and neither one is a word salad.
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| "When can we start the Jeffersons?"
| [[Strong Sad's Lament]] (Nov. 18, 2002)
| Strong Sad mentions in his journal this was all Homsar said to him that day.
| The context is unknown. Perhaps he was commenting on how boring Strong Sad is, and expressing his desire to do something else.
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| "Nowowowow, this is the thrill of a lifetime."
| [[Happy T!]] (Nov. 28, 2002)
| This Easter egg was found by clicking on the bottom-right corner of the page.
| The other characters all said some variation of "Happy T!", but Homsar's line could still be construed to make some sense.
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| "I do what I'm told..."
| Email [[dragon]] (Jan. 13, 2003)
| Strong Bad had just told him to get out of his house.
| Coherent given the situation.
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|
*"AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hey Reggie! Is that rhinoceros around?"
*"I'm a song from the sixties."
| Email [[interview]] (Feb. 10, 2003)
| These are Homsar's actual lines in this email. The other "lines" were spoken by Strong Bad.
| Homsar's first line is peculiar, but it makes enough sense that Strong Bad, as well as the viewer, can figure out that he's referring to Strong Sad. The second line is a comedic repetition of one of Strong Bad's lines.
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| '''[[Toons]]:''' "ToOoOoOons!" '''[[Games]]:''' "James!" '''[[Characters]]:''' "[[Wikipedia:Kelsey Grammer|Kelsey Grammer]]!" '''[[Downloads]]:''' "Thank youuuuu." '''[[Store]]:''' "Legitimate business." '''[[Email]]:''' "AaAaAaAaAaAaA!"
| [[Homsar Main Page]] (Feb. 10, 2003)
|Homsar provides unique ways of reading the buttons.
|
*Toons: merely exaggerated pronunciation.
*Games: merely mispronounced.
*Characters: Kelsey Grammer is an actor, so it fits.
*Downloads: he could be giving thanks for receiving a download.
*Store: He is implying that the store is a "legitimate business".
*Email: He is obviously dizzy, as the area is swirling.
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| "AAAaaaAAAaaa-I'm just in time for the murder mystery!"
| Email [[suntan]] (Jun. 16, 2003)
| A "Celebrity(?) Testimonial" of Strong Bad's Ab-Abber 2000. Homsar had used it to draw a calculator with the word "SALAd" on his shirt.
| Homsar's line does not make sense in this scene, but the sentence itself is coherent.
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| "AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hi, Wonder Mike! I'm Homsar! The captain of the gravy train. Climb aboard! '''I've brought my best foot flowered... Pshoooo!''' Sure beats breaking up with me. Don't look now! I'm just a friendly reminder. AaAaAaAaAaAaA! AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Think I won the Powerball."
| [[Homsar#Character Video Transcript|Homsar's Character Video]] (Jul. 14, 2003)
| Homsar introduces himself.
| "I've brought my best foot flowered", if taken at face value, is a prime example of a word salad — the sentence makes no sense either in context or by itself, and yet is still syntactically valid. However, Homsar might have meant to say "forward" instead of "flowered", which would make the sentence make much more sense. The rest of Homsar's video is made up of coherent but disconnected sentences that each make sense by themselves. If there were such a thing as a "sentence salad", this would be it. It is possible, however, that he simply wasn't sure what he should be saying.
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| "I'm crying on the inside..."
| Email [[impression]] (Aug. 25, 2003)
| Homsar had just been disqualified from the Strong Sad Lookalike Contest because he was mistaken for Strong Sad.
| This line makes sense for two reasons: It's something Strong Sad would likely say, and Homsar himself may have been sad that he was disqualified.
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| "AaAaAa! I'm open for interpretation!"
| [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] (Oct. 29, 2003)
| Homsar's secret costume, Slash from Guns N' Roses.
| Could be reinterpreted as "What do you think of my costume?" In addition, this could be a reference to whether his sudden appearance in the cartoon has any significance to the story.
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| "You gotta get yours, I gotta get mine."
| Email [[army]] (Jan. 5, 2004)
| Responding to Homestar's call to action for the [[Homestarmy]].
| This line makes some sense in this context — it could be construed that Homsar really is in the Homestarmy for personal reasons.
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| "I'm forever your girl."
| Email [[different town]] (Feb. 23, 2004)
| Spoken as [[Different Town Character Variations|Modestly Hot Homsar]]. It should be noted that this took place in Strong Bad's imagination.
| This phrase makes perfect sense, considering that Homsar was just transformed into a female figure.
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| "It's time for tasteball!"
| Email [[theme park]] (May 25, 2004)
| Giving information to Homestar Runner.
| This one is a close call. On the one hand, the viewer is left wondering exactly what tasteball is, but Homestar replies with "Oh crap, it's tasteball already?", indicating that it was not unexpected for Homsar to say that. Tasteball could presumably be one of their duties as mascots. On the other hand, Homsar's line may qualify as a true word salad, and Homestar's reply could just be a typical clueless reaction. As they are working at a theme park, Homsar could also be referring to amusement parks' tendencies to create unique games for their customers.
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|
*"DaAaAaA! I'm a trendy tote bag!"
*"I'm not gonna lie to you, that's a healthy piece of real estate!"
*"That's a real popular song! Who wants to hear of it fifty times more?"
| Email [[for kids]] (Aug. 9, 2004)
| Homsar on his kids' show, ''[[Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?]]''
| "I'm a trendy tote bag" makes some sense in context, because Homsar is appearing on a public television show, and tote bags are among the most common free gifts given by public television stations in pledge drives. His line about real estate (referring to the letter G) makes a small amount of sense in context. His last line is strongly connected to the scene, in which they had just finished singing "Stave It Off, 1-2-3".
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| "I blew it, man. I lose my touch."
| [[Halloween Fairstival]] (Oct. 29, 2004)
| This was a line spoken by Kumar from ''Bottle Rocket'', which was Homsar's costume.
| This makes sense because he's quoting the character upon which his costume is based.
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|
*"Alms for the pudgy! Alms for the pudgy."
*"You're a real state trooper."
| [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] (Dec. 20, 2004)
| Homsar is running a donation station, and Homestar stops by, spits in the donation can, then leaves again.
| Homsar's first line is a take on "Alms for the poor", a common greeting for beggars, panhandlers, and donation takers. The second line is an odd way of saying "thanks". Both make sense.
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| "I'm the human wedgie."
| Email [[origins]] (Jan. 31, 2005)
| Homsar was glued to Marzipan as a prank.
| This line seems to indicate that Homsar is aware of his predicament, but it doesn't really relate all that well. However, "The Human (noun)" is a pretty common way to describe one's self performing the function of an inanimate object — for example, "The Human Cannonball" — and this could be akin to his calling himself "The Human Prank".
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| "Caramel corn for president, please."
| Email [[rampage]] (Apr. 11, 2005)
| Homsar gives "praise" to Strong Sad at his Poetry Slam.
| As praise, this sentence makes little sense. On its own, it also doesn't make much sense, though it is fairly close to "Kernel/Colonel Corn", which is a common joke. It may be a stretch to call this a word salad.
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| "I'm just me, can't you see? I'm just a silly little bumblebee."
| Email [[record book]] (Jul. 25, 2005)
| Sung while jumping up and down on one foot with nine pieces of chewing gum on his face. Coach Z did the same thing moments before in order to win a record, but Strong Bad told him that there were no records for something that no one else would ever do.
| There are two possible explanations for this. The more likely explanation is that Homsar actually does jump up and down on one foot with nine pieces of chewing gum on his face while singing the "I'm Just Me" song on a regular basis, which is ironic, since Strong Bad had just said that no one else would ever do that. The other is that Homsar is mimicking Coach Z, although this is not nearly as likely, as it isn't nearly as ironic as the former explanation.
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| "Location, location, location!"
| [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] (Nov. 1, 2005)
| Homsar dresses up as Tingle from the Legend of Zelda series. He says this after Homestar rejects his "choices".
| Homsar's quote here is a common phrase used in real estate (the three most important things). It does make some sense when paired with his costume, as [[Wikipedia:Tingle|Tingle]] sold maps to Link in his debut in [[Wikipedia:Majora's Mask|Majora's Mask]].
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| "Let's sing a song of Pennzoil!"
| [[Fall Float Parade]] (Nov. 21, 2005)
| Two Homsars drive through the parade.
| Could be construed as a product endorsement, or as a humorous reference to product endorsement, since Pennzoil has sponsored many such parades in the real world.
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| "I'm a little light in the leftovers!"
| [[Weclome Back]] (Jul. 3, 2006)
| Homsar says this while standing on a merchandise table.
| Homsar takes a common phrase and substitutes a random word — something he does fairly often. This sentence could be construed to mean "I don't have much leftover stuff", or "I'm not very smart". It should also be noted that being "a little light in the '''loafers'''" is a common euphemism for homosexuality. The phrase itself, when put into context, is likely Homsar's way of saying that the merchandise is a limited time offer.
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| "This dinner party is top dollar!"
| [[cliffhangers]] (Sept. 18, 2006)
| Homsar says this while hanging off a cliff by a rope.
| Not exactly appropriate given the situation, but he does acknowledge that he is at a gathering. It could also be inferred that he likes hanging upside-down. Additionally, he could be referencing the King of Town's tendency to eat random things.
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| "Eggs tree, eggs tree! This get-up is mah get down!"
| [[Happy Hallow-day]] (Oct. 30, 2006)
| Homsar is holding a newspaper with the headline "Eggs Tree! Eggs Tree!"
| "Eggs Tree" sounds like the way Homestar pronounced "extree" earlier in the toon, albeit broken up into words. Plus, during this scene he's standing next to a tree full of actual eggs. "This get-up is mah get down" refers to when Homestar says that the Newspaper Boy outfit was NOT his Halloween costume. The opposite is the case for Homsar.
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| "Well, hello, chocolate cake!"
| [[strong badathlon]] (Jan. 29, 2007)
| Homsar and Marzipan are having a tea party when The Cheat, covered in [[whatsit]], comes flying through the air and lands on the table.
| This line makes some sense in this context, since chocolate and whatsit are both brown in color. Another way this line could make sense is that "chocolate cake" can be used as a term of endearment. It is also possible that Homsar could be referring to the shape of The Cheat as a piece of chocolate cake.
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| "AaAaAh! My cheese is 50 cent!"
| [[Who Said What Now?]]
| This is Homsar's quote for the game.
| Since all of the character quotes in the game reflect the character in some way, this quote makes sense, since Homsar's character that of a non-sequitor.
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| "These Easter pants are getting way too tight!"
| [[DNA Evidence (toon)|DNA Evidence]] (May 15, 2007)
| This is Homsar's reply to Strong Sad, when the latter asks the former if he will say anything at the end of the toon.
| There are a couple of things this line could reference: Homsar's occasional appearances in [[Easter egg]]s, and the common running gag of [[pants]]. Perhaps Homsar is somewhat dazed by Strong Sad's long exposition and is uttering whatever is on his mind. It could also mean that he feels pressure from Strong Sad after witnessing such an out-of-character revelation from him, and wishes to remove himself from the uncomfortable situation or change the subject. It could also be referring to himself, "The Human Wedgie". Another explanation is he refers to secrets as "easter pants" (hence the term EASTER egg) and he can't keep much more of them.
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| "Ennn-joy!"
| [[160 Seconds]] (June 5, 2007)
| The English-speaking males take turns reading the introduction of the video.
| This quote makes perfect sense because they hope the viewers like the video.
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| "AaAaAaAaA! Don't count on it, monster may-an!"
| [[mini-golf]] (Aug 13, 2007)
| Homsar's response to Strong Bad while floating through the air above [[Sweet Puttin' Cakes]], when Strong Bad asked the [[Drive-Thru Whale]] "Homsar, is that you?"
| This would appear to make literal sense, as Homsar is not inside the Drive-Thru Whale, though he appears to have given Strong Bad another new nickname.
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| "I'm a touchy feely-holic!"
| [[Jibblies 2]] (Oct 29, 2007)
| Homsar's response to the [[Horrible Painting]].
| This response makes sense in reference to his costume, the "Noony Noony Noo" Typewriter Guy and can be interpreted as "I like using myself to type."
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| "I'm a long-standing munch date!"
| [[Where's The Cheat? (game)]] (Nov 12, 2007)
| Strong Bad meets Homsar in a secret room.
| This would make sense if Homsar felt he was waiting too long for someone to access his Easter Egg.
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| "My name's Millions, and I'm the son of a Chipwich!"
| [[fan club]] (Jan 28, 2008)
| Homsar's response to Strong Sad's mentioning of the ongoing debate of the non sequitur championship.
| This makes perfect sense as a response to the mentioning of non sequiturs, one of which this definitely is. Homsar's first line may also be him trying to introduce himself to Strong Sad's [[The Deleteheads|fan club]].
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| "AaaAAaaaaAaaa! Step right up! I'm a crudely drawn cupcake! '''Don't forget your tapesicle!'''"
| [[Homestar Ruiner]] (Aug 11, 2008)
| This is the message you receive when you call Homsar using Homestar's cell phone.
| Homsar does something he does fairly often. When he doesn't really have anything to communicate, he just draws something out of mid-air, however he does have the shape of a "crudely drawn cupcake". "Don't forget your tapesicle" is a word salad, or may simply be a reminder for the caller to leave a message.
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| "Daaah, I'm a knock knock joke about jogging suits!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept 15, 2008)
| This is what Homsar usually says when you try to talk to him.
| This sounds like a word salad, however, when Strong Bad gains the ability to understand Homsar this is translated into "Hello, Strong Bad. What's the haps?"
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| "Pucker up, Dice Man! I'm as upholstered as I wanna be!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept 15, 2008)
| Homsar usually says this when Strong Bad asks him to join Strong Badia.
| At first glance this may seem like a word salad, (with Strong Bad hoping he's not Diceman,) but when Strong Bad can understand Homsar, this is translated as "Why should my people risk open war for you and your considerable style?"
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| "Sign me up for soccer class, Debra!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept 15, 2008)
| Homsar's response to Strong Bad attempting to speak in Homsar's language.
| It may seem like a word salad, but when Strong Bad speaks Homsar's language after being enlightened to Homsar's ways, it is translated as "Why are you speaking gibberish Strong Bad? Seriously, you sound like a two-years old boy."
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| "Hotel coupons for dinner again?"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept 15, 2008)
| Homsar's response to Strong Bad when he shows Homsar one of the Homsartifacts.
| Like the other responses from Strong Badia the Free, this sounds like a word salad, and has yet to be translated, but is probably Homsar trying to tell Strong Bad to put it in the "pylon."
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| *"Daaah, no thanks, officer! I've got the one big round one!"
*"AaAaAa! I'm the long way back from naptime!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept 15, 2008)
| Homsar's response to Strong Sad's droning in the Maps and Minions game.
| While they appear to be word salads, like everything else Homsar says in the game, they mean something else. In this case, Homsar is probably telling Strong Sad that he is not afraid and is taking the King of Town ("the one big round one") back to the Castle. "I'm the long way back from naptime" may be a threat to knock Strong Sad out.
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| "AaAaAah'm the Captain Caveman of the graveyard train!"
| [[Most in the Graveyard]] (October 30, 2008)
| Homsar speaks this line disguised as Captain Caveman, popping out from behind a grave.
| This sentence makes perfect literal sense on its own, and is also a reference to his character video, in which he refers to himself as the "captain of the gravy train."
|}

== Analysis and Summary ==

As shown here, there are logical arguments for almost all of Homsar's phrases. It seems that Homsar simply has an odd and somewhat indirect way of communicating with others.

There is a pattern that appears during this analysis, however: In almost every case, if there's a strong reason for Homsar to communicate a particular concept, he'll do it unerringly — one can always tell what he means. It is when he doesn't have a particularly strong reason to communicate that his speech becomes more random. For example, if he has a request ("Is that rhinoceros around?", "That's a real popular song! Who wants to hear of it fifty times more?"), his sentence relates quite clearly to the scene, and is itself perfectly valid, even if there was a much more direct way of saying it. But in his character video, his sentences are almost completely disconnected from one another, and in [[suntan]] and [[theme park]], he had no particular reason to send a message, so he seemed to just pull a random sentence out of thin air, perhaps just so he could say something.

It seems clear that while Homsar doesn't have a strong grasp on reality, he is pretty coherent most of the time, and he can relate to other characters and his surroundings when he needs to. Looking at the definition of "word salad" as given by Wikipedia, it does not appear that Homsar suffers from this disorder — at least, not much.

However, in [[Strong Badia the Free]] it is determined that Homsar's speech is actually a well-developed language, as Strong Bad is briefly able to understand it, making Homsar's speech make perfect sense. To Strong Sad, however, the two characters appear to be speaking nonsense.

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User:DorianGray/Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns

0rion — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:35:08 GMT

0rion: /* Homsar's Speech in Chronological Order */ Last time, unless I messed up the line. Sorry about that.

'''Homsar's speech patterns''' are quite unusual, and many believe that his strange way of speaking is the result of a mental disorder such as [[Wikipedia:Word salad (mental health)|word salad]], a condition in which sentence structure and grammar are intact, but individual words are picked at random and have no particular meaning. This article pulls together all of the things [[Homsar]] has said since his introduction in the [[Homestar Runner universe]], identifies the context of each line, and determines whether or not the line qualifies as a word salad.

== Homsar's Speech in Chronological Order ==

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! Quote !! Toon !! Context !! Comments
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| "Uhdyeah, what ees it, Strong Bayaad?"
| Email [[homsar]] (2001)
| Responding to [[Strong Bad]], who had just gotten his attention.
| This is a simple greeting.
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| "DaAAahhh, hello, [[Marzipan|Marzypa-yun]]. It's Homsar! Dahhh, I was just calling to thank you for the flowers you sent me while I was in the hospital. Daahh, I'm feeling much better now, but I still can't feel my leeegs. Okay, bye-dee-bye."
| [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]] (Dec. 2001/Jan. 2002)
| Homsar has presumably recovered from having the [[Heavy Lourde]] dropped on him.
| Homsar speaks in basically perfect (if exaggerated) English in this message.
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|
*"I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for some candy today!"
*"YaAaAaAh, I'm the original ladies' man!"
*"If you give me a treat, make sure that it's sweet, and I'll eeeat iiiiiit..."
*"Oh no, I think this is my favorite!"
| [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] (Oct. 27, 2001)
| Homsar's intro, and then his lines after being handed Shavin' Creem, black and orange taffy, and a wrench, respectively.
| His intro is a paraphrasing of the catch phrase of [[Wikipedia:J. Wellington Wimpy|Wimpy]], the character from the [[Wikipedia:Popeye|Popeye]] cartoons (who he is dressed as), namely "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today." His responses to the treats are strange, but not completely random.
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|
*"Oh no! You shanked my Jengaship!"
*"AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hey, Tubbs! I just lost my Jengajam."
| [[Where's The Cheat?]] (Feb. 25, 2002)
| Homsar is playing Connect Four with [[Strong Sad]], then speaks to [[Bubs]] when he enters the room.
| Homsar's line does reference two games, although not the one he is actually playing, Connect Four, as Strong Sad observes. He doesn't quite get Bubs' name right.
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| "AaAaAaAaAaAaA!!! I'm saving the best for last!"
| Email [[your friends]] (Oct. 14, 2002)
| During the montage, Strong Bad buries Homsar and covers him with scorpions, which begin to crawl into his mouth.
| It is debatable whether Homsar's phrase has any connection to his predicament. If it is connected, it would seem to imply that he enjoys eating scorpions.
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* "I'm the ghost of Christmas past."
* "And also with you."
| [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] (Oct. 29, 2002)
| [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] and [[The Cheat]] walk up to Homsar, whose "pumpkin" is an eggplant with a spoon taped to it.
| Homsar's first response references ''A Christmas Carol'', while his second line is a common response in many religious prayers. Both have some connection to the scene, and neither one is a word salad.
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| "When can we start the Jeffersons?"
| [[Strong Sad's Lament]] (Nov. 18, 2002)
| Strong Sad mentions in his journal this was all Homsar said to him that day.
| The context is unknown. Perhaps he was commenting on how boring Strong Sad is, and expressing his desire to do something else.
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| "Nowowowow, this is the thrill of a lifetime."
| [[Happy T!]] (Nov. 28, 2002)
| This Easter egg was found by clicking on the bottom-right corner of the page.
| The other characters all said some variation of "Happy T!", but Homsar's line could still be construed to make some sense.
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| "I do what I'm told..."
| Email [[dragon]] (Jan. 13, 2003)
| Strong Bad had just told him to get out of his house.
| Coherent given the situation.
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|
*"AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hey Reggie! Is that rhinoceros around?"
*"I'm a song from the sixties."
| Email [[interview]] (Feb. 10, 2003)
| These are Homsar's actual lines in this email. The other "lines" were spoken by Strong Bad.
| Homsar's first line is peculiar, but it makes enough sense that Strong Bad, as well as the viewer, can figure out that he's referring to Strong Sad. The second line is a comedic repetition of one of Strong Bad's lines.
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| '''[[Toons]]:''' "ToOoOoOons!" '''[[Games]]:''' "James!" '''[[Characters]]:''' "[[Wikipedia:Kelsey Grammer|Kelsey Grammer]]!" '''[[Downloads]]:''' "Thank youuuuu." '''[[Store]]:''' "Legitimate business." '''[[Email]]:''' "AaAaAaAaAaAaA!"
| [[Homsar Main Page]] (Feb. 10, 2003)
|Homsar provides unique ways of reading the buttons.
|
*Toons: merely exaggerated pronunciation.
*Games: merely mispronounced.
*Characters: Kelsey Grammer is an actor, so it fits.
*Downloads: he could be giving thanks for receiving a download.
*Store: He is implying that the store is a "legitimate business".
*Email: He is obviously dizzy, as the area is swirling.
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| "AAAaaaAAAaaa-I'm just in time for the murder mystery!"
| Email [[suntan]] (Jun. 16, 2003)
| A "Celebrity(?) Testimonial" of Strong Bad's Ab-Abber 2000. Homsar had used it to draw a calculator with the word "SALAd" on his shirt.
| Homsar's line does not make sense in this scene, but the sentence itself is coherent.
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| "AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hi, Wonder Mike! I'm Homsar! The captain of the gravy train. Climb aboard! '''I've brought my best foot flowered... Pshoooo!''' Sure beats breaking up with me. Don't look now! I'm just a friendly reminder. AaAaAaAaAaAaA! AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Think I won the Powerball."
| [[Homsar#Character Video Transcript|Homsar's Character Video]] (Jul. 14, 2003)
| Homsar introduces himself.
| "I've brought my best foot flowered", if taken at face value, is a prime example of a word salad — the sentence makes no sense either in context or by itself, and yet is still syntactically valid. However, Homsar might have meant to say "forward" instead of "flowered", which would make the sentence make much more sense. The rest of Homsar's video is made up of coherent but disconnected sentences that each make sense by themselves. If there were such a thing as a "sentence salad", this would be it. It is possible, however, that he simply wasn't sure what he should be saying.
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| "I'm crying on the inside..."
| Email [[impression]] (Aug. 25, 2003)
| Homsar had just been disqualified from the Strong Sad Lookalike Contest because he was mistaken for Strong Sad.
| This line makes sense for two reasons: It's something Strong Sad would likely say, and Homsar himself may have been sad that he was disqualified.
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| "AaAaAa! I'm open for interpretation!"
| [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] (Oct. 29, 2003)
| Homsar's secret costume, Slash from Guns N' Roses.
| Could be reinterpreted as "What do you think of my costume?" In addition, this could be a reference to whether his sudden appearance in the cartoon has any significance to the story.
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| "You gotta get yours, I gotta get mine."
| Email [[army]] (Jan. 5, 2004)
| Responding to Homestar's call to action for the [[Homestarmy]].
| This line makes some sense in this context — it could be construed that Homsar really is in the Homestarmy for personal reasons.
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| "I'm forever your girl."
| Email [[different town]] (Feb. 23, 2004)
| Spoken as [[Different Town Character Variations|Modestly Hot Homsar]]. It should be noted that this took place in Strong Bad's imagination.
| This phrase makes perfect sense, considering that Homsar was just transformed into a female figure.
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| "It's time for tasteball!"
| Email [[theme park]] (May 25, 2004)
| Giving information to Homestar Runner.
| This one is a close call. On the one hand, the viewer is left wondering exactly what tasteball is, but Homestar replies with "Oh crap, it's tasteball already?", indicating that it was not unexpected for Homsar to say that. Tasteball could presumably be one of their duties as mascots. On the other hand, Homsar's line may qualify as a true word salad, and Homestar's reply could just be a typical clueless reaction. As they are working at a theme park, Homsar could also be referring to amusement parks' tendencies to create unique games for their customers.
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|
*"DaAaAaA! I'm a trendy tote bag!"
*"I'm not gonna lie to you, that's a healthy piece of real estate!"
*"That's a real popular song! Who wants to hear of it fifty times more?"
| Email [[for kids]] (Aug. 9, 2004)
| Homsar on his kids' show, ''[[Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?]]''
| "I'm a trendy tote bag" makes some sense in context, because Homsar is appearing on a public television show, and tote bags are among the most common free gifts given by public television stations in pledge drives. His line about real estate (referring to the letter G) makes a small amount of sense in context. His last line is strongly connected to the scene, in which they had just finished singing "Stave It Off, 1-2-3".
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| "I blew it, man. I lose my touch."
| [[Halloween Fairstival]] (Oct. 29, 2004)
| This was a line spoken by Kumar from ''Bottle Rocket'', which was Homsar's costume.
| This makes sense because he's quoting the character upon which his costume is based.
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|
*"Alms for the pudgy! Alms for the pudgy."
*"You're a real state trooper."
| [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] (Dec. 20, 2004)
| Homsar is running a donation station, and Homestar stops by, spits in the donation can, then leaves again.
| Homsar's first line is a take on "Alms for the poor", a common greeting for beggars, panhandlers, and donation takers. The second line is an odd way of saying "thanks". Both make sense.
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| "I'm the human wedgie."
| Email [[origins]] (Jan. 31, 2005)
| Homsar was glued to Marzipan as a prank.
| This line seems to indicate that Homsar is aware of his predicament, but it doesn't really relate all that well. However, "The Human (noun)" is a pretty common way to describe one's self performing the function of an inanimate object — for example, "The Human Cannonball" — and this could be akin to his calling himself "The Human Prank".
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| "Caramel corn for president, please."
| Email [[rampage]] (Apr. 11, 2005)
| Homsar gives "praise" to Strong Sad at his Poetry Slam.
| As praise, this sentence makes little sense. On its own, it also doesn't make much sense, though it is fairly close to "Kernel/Colonel Corn", which is a common joke. It may be a stretch to call this a word salad.
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| "I'm just me, can't you see? I'm just a silly little bumblebee."
| Email [[record book]] (Jul. 25, 2005)
| Sung while jumping up and down on one foot with nine pieces of chewing gum on his face. Coach Z did the same thing moments before in order to win a record, but Strong Bad told him that there were no records for something that no one else would ever do.
| There are two possible explanations for this. The more likely explanation is that Homsar actually does jump up and down on one foot with nine pieces of chewing gum on his face while singing the "I'm Just Me" song on a regular basis, which is ironic, since Strong Bad had just said that no one else would ever do that. The other is that Homsar is mimicking Coach Z, although this is not nearly as likely, as it isn't nearly as ironic as the former explanation.
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| "Location, location, location!"
| [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] (Nov. 1, 2005)
| Homsar dresses up as Tingle from the Legend of Zelda series. He says this after Homestar rejects his "choices".
| Homsar's quote here is a common phrase used in real estate (the three most important things). It does make some sense when paired with his costume, as [[Wikipedia:Tingle|Tingle]] sold maps to Link in his debut in [[Wikipedia:Majora's Mask|Majora's Mask]].
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| "Let's sing a song of Pennzoil!"
| [[Fall Float Parade]] (Nov. 21, 2005)
| Two Homsars drive through the parade.
| Could be construed as a product endorsement, or as a humorous reference to product endorsement, since Pennzoil has sponsored many such parades in the real world.
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| "I'm a little light in the leftovers!"
| [[Weclome Back]] (Jul. 3, 2006)
| Homsar says this while standing on a merchandise table.
| Homsar takes a common phrase and substitutes a random word — something he does fairly often. This sentence could be construed to mean "I don't have much leftover stuff", or "I'm not very smart". It should also be noted that being "a little light in the '''loafers'''" is a common euphemism for homosexuality. The phrase itself, when put into context, is likely Homsar's way of saying that the merchandise is a limited time offer.
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| "This dinner party is top dollar!"
| [[cliffhangers]] (Sept. 18, 2006)
| Homsar says this while hanging off a cliff by a rope.
| Not exactly appropriate given the situation, but he does acknowledge that he is at a gathering. It could also be inferred that he likes hanging upside-down. Additionally, he could be referencing the King of Town's tendency to eat random things.
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| "Eggs tree, eggs tree! This get-up is mah get down!"
| [[Happy Hallow-day]] (Oct. 30, 2006)
| Homsar is holding a newspaper with the headline "Eggs Tree! Eggs Tree!"
| "Eggs Tree" sounds like the way Homestar pronounced "extree" earlier in the toon, albeit broken up into words. Plus, during this scene he's standing next to a tree full of actual eggs. "This get-up is mah get down" refers to when Homestar says that the Newspaper Boy outfit was NOT his Halloween costume. The opposite is the case for Homsar.
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| "Well, hello, chocolate cake!"
| [[strong badathlon]] (Jan. 29, 2007)
| Homsar and Marzipan are having a tea party when The Cheat, covered in [[whatsit]], comes flying through the air and lands on the table.
| This line makes some sense in this context, since chocolate and whatsit are both brown in color. Another way this line could make sense is that "chocolate cake" can be used as a term of endearment. It is also possible that Homsar could be referring to the shape of The Cheat as a piece of chocolate cake.
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| "AaAaAh! My cheese is 50 cent!"
| [[Who Said What Now?]]
| This is Homsar's quote for the game.
| Since all of the character quotes in the game reflect the character in some way, this quote makes sense, since Homsar's character that of a non-sequitor.
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| "These Easter pants are getting way too tight!"
| [[DNA Evidence (toon)|DNA Evidence]] (May 15, 2007)
| This is Homsar's reply to Strong Sad, when the latter asks the former if he will say anything at the end of the toon.
| There are a couple of things this line could reference: Homsar's occasional appearances in [[Easter egg]]s, and the common running gag of [[pants]]. Perhaps Homsar is somewhat dazed by Strong Sad's long exposition and is uttering whatever is on his mind. It could also mean that he feels pressure from Strong Sad after witnessing such an out-of-character revelation from him, and wishes to remove himself from the uncomfortable situation or change the subject. It could also be referring to himself, "The Human Wedgie". Another explanation is he refers to secrets as "easter pants" (hence the term EASTER egg) and he can't keep much more of them.
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| "Ennn-joy!"
| [[160 Seconds]] (June 5, 2007)
| The English-speaking males take turns reading the introduction of the video.
| This quote makes perfect sense because they hope the viewers like the video.
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| "AaAaAaAaA! Don't count on it, monster may-an!"
| [[mini-golf]] (Aug 13, 2007)
| Homsar's response to Strong Bad while floating through the air above [[Sweet Puttin' Cakes]], when Strong Bad asked the [[Drive-Thru Whale]] "Homsar, is that you?"
| This would appear to make literal sense, as Homsar is not inside the Drive-Thru Whale, though he appears to have given Strong Bad another new nickname.
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| "I'm a touchy feely-holic!"
| [[Jibblies 2]] (Oct 29, 2007)
| Homsar's response to the [[Horrible Painting]].
| This response makes sense in reference to his costume, the "Noony Noony Noo" Typewriter Guy and can be interpreted as "I like using myself to type."
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| "I'm a long-standing munch date!"
| [[Where's The Cheat? (game)]] (Nov 12, 2007)
| Strong Bad meets Homsar in a secret room.
| This would make sense if Homsar felt he was waiting too long for someone to access his Easter Egg.
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| "My name's Millions, and I'm the son of a Chipwich!"
| [[fan club]] (Jan 28, 2008)
| Homsar's response to Strong Sad's mentioning of the ongoing debate of the non sequitur championship.
| This makes perfect sense as a response to the mentioning of non sequiturs, one of which this definitely is. Homsar's first line may also be him trying to introduce himself to Strong Sad's [[The Deleteheads|fan club]].
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| "AaaAAaaaaAaaa! Step right up! I'm a crudely drawn cupcake! '''Don't forget your tapesicle!'''"
| [[Homestar Ruiner]] (Aug 11, 2008)
| This is the message you receive when you call Homsar using Homestar's cell phone.
| Homsar does something he does fairly often. When he doesn't really have anything to communicate, he just draws something out of mid-air, however he does have the shape of a "crudely drawn cupcake". "Don't forget your tapesicle" is a word salad, or may simply be a reminder for the caller to leave a message.
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| "Daaah, I'm a knock knock joke about jogging suits!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept 15, 2008)
| This is what Homsar usually says when you try to talk to him.
| This sounds like a word salad, however, when Strong Bad gains the ability to understand Homsar this is translated into "Hello, Strong Bad. What's the haps?"
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| "Pucker up, Dice Man! I'm as upholstered as I wanna be!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept 15, 2008)
| Homsar usually says this when Strong Bad asks him to join Strong Badia.
| At first glance this may seem like a word salad, (with Strong Bad hoping he's not Diceman,) but when Strong Bad can understand Homsar, this is translated as "Why should my people risk open war for you and your considerable style?"
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| "Sign me up for soccer class, Debra!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept 15, 2008)
| Homsar's response to Strong Bad attempting to speak in Homsar's language.
| It may seem like a word salad, but when Strong Bad speaks Homsar's language after being enlightened to Homsar's ways, it is translated as "Why are you speaking gibberish Strong Bad? Seriously, you sound like a two-years old boy."
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| "Hotel coupons for dinner again?"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept 15, 2008)
| Homsar's response to Strong Bad when he shows Homsar one of the Homsartifacts.
| Like the other responses from Strong Badia the Free, this sounds like a word salad, and has yet to be translated, but is probably Homsar trying to tell Strong Bad to put it in the "pylon."
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| *"Daaah, no thanks, officer! I've got the one big round one!"
*"AaAaAa! I'm the long way back from naptime!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept 15, 2008)
| Homsar's response to Strong Sad's droning in the Maps and Minions game.
| While they appear to be word salads, like everything else Homsar says in the game, they mean something else. In this case, Homsar is probably telling Strong Sad that he is not afraid and is taking the King of Town ("the one big round one") back to the Castle. "I'm the long way back from naptime" may be a threat to knock Strong Sad out.
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| "AaAaAa! I'm the Captain Caveman of the graveyard train!"
| [[Halloween '08]] (October 30, 2008)
| Homsar speaks this line disguised as Captain Caveman, popping out from behind a grave.
| This sentence makes perfect literal sense, though he added the word "train" in.
|}

== Analysis and Summary ==

As shown here, there are logical arguments for almost all of Homsar's phrases. It seems that Homsar simply has an odd and somewhat indirect way of communicating with others.

There is a pattern that appears during this analysis, however: In almost every case, if there's a strong reason for Homsar to communicate a particular concept, he'll do it unerringly — one can always tell what he means. It is when he doesn't have a particularly strong reason to communicate that his speech becomes more random. For example, if he has a request ("Is that rhinoceros around?", "That's a real popular song! Who wants to hear of it fifty times more?"), his sentence relates quite clearly to the scene, and is itself perfectly valid, even if there was a much more direct way of saying it. But in his character video, his sentences are almost completely disconnected from one another, and in [[suntan]] and [[theme park]], he had no particular reason to send a message, so he seemed to just pull a random sentence out of thin air, perhaps just so he could say something.

It seems clear that while Homsar doesn't have a strong grasp on reality, he is pretty coherent most of the time, and he can relate to other characters and his surroundings when he needs to. Looking at the definition of "word salad" as given by Wikipedia, it does not appear that Homsar suffers from this disorder — at least, not much.

However, in [[Strong Badia the Free]] it is determined that Homsar's speech is actually a well-developed language, as Strong Bad is briefly able to understand it, making Homsar's speech make perfect sense. To Strong Sad, however, the two characters appear to be speaking nonsense.

[[Category:Spelling and Grammar]][[Category:Research]]

User:DorianGray/Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns

0rion — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:33:58 GMT

0rion: /* Homsar's Speech in Chronological Order */ Whoops.

'''Homsar's speech patterns''' are quite unusual, and many believe that his strange way of speaking is the result of a mental disorder such as [[Wikipedia:Word salad (mental health)|word salad]], a condition in which sentence structure and grammar are intact, but individual words are picked at random and have no particular meaning. This article pulls together all of the things [[Homsar]] has said since his introduction in the [[Homestar Runner universe]], identifies the context of each line, and determines whether or not the line qualifies as a word salad.

== Homsar's Speech in Chronological Order ==

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! Quote !! Toon !! Context !! Comments
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| "Uhdyeah, what ees it, Strong Bayaad?"
| Email [[homsar]] (2001)
| Responding to [[Strong Bad]], who had just gotten his attention.
| This is a simple greeting.
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| "DaAAahhh, hello, [[Marzipan|Marzypa-yun]]. It's Homsar! Dahhh, I was just calling to thank you for the flowers you sent me while I was in the hospital. Daahh, I'm feeling much better now, but I still can't feel my leeegs. Okay, bye-dee-bye."
| [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]] (Dec. 2001/Jan. 2002)
| Homsar has presumably recovered from having the [[Heavy Lourde]] dropped on him.
| Homsar speaks in basically perfect (if exaggerated) English in this message.
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|
*"I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for some candy today!"
*"YaAaAaAh, I'm the original ladies' man!"
*"If you give me a treat, make sure that it's sweet, and I'll eeeat iiiiiit..."
*"Oh no, I think this is my favorite!"
| [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] (Oct. 27, 2001)
| Homsar's intro, and then his lines after being handed Shavin' Creem, black and orange taffy, and a wrench, respectively.
| His intro is a paraphrasing of the catch phrase of [[Wikipedia:J. Wellington Wimpy|Wimpy]], the character from the [[Wikipedia:Popeye|Popeye]] cartoons (who he is dressed as), namely "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today." His responses to the treats are strange, but not completely random.
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|
*"Oh no! You shanked my Jengaship!"
*"AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hey, Tubbs! I just lost my Jengajam."
| [[Where's The Cheat?]] (Feb. 25, 2002)
| Homsar is playing Connect Four with [[Strong Sad]], then speaks to [[Bubs]] when he enters the room.
| Homsar's line does reference two games, although not the one he is actually playing, Connect Four, as Strong Sad observes. He doesn't quite get Bubs' name right.
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| "AaAaAaAaAaAaA!!! I'm saving the best for last!"
| Email [[your friends]] (Oct. 14, 2002)
| During the montage, Strong Bad buries Homsar and covers him with scorpions, which begin to crawl into his mouth.
| It is debatable whether Homsar's phrase has any connection to his predicament. If it is connected, it would seem to imply that he enjoys eating scorpions.
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|
* "I'm the ghost of Christmas past."
* "And also with you."
| [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] (Oct. 29, 2002)
| [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] and [[The Cheat]] walk up to Homsar, whose "pumpkin" is an eggplant with a spoon taped to it.
| Homsar's first response references ''A Christmas Carol'', while his second line is a common response in many religious prayers. Both have some connection to the scene, and neither one is a word salad.
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| "When can we start the Jeffersons?"
| [[Strong Sad's Lament]] (Nov. 18, 2002)
| Strong Sad mentions in his journal this was all Homsar said to him that day.
| The context is unknown. Perhaps he was commenting on how boring Strong Sad is, and expressing his desire to do something else.
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| "Nowowowow, this is the thrill of a lifetime."
| [[Happy T!]] (Nov. 28, 2002)
| This Easter egg was found by clicking on the bottom-right corner of the page.
| The other characters all said some variation of "Happy T!", but Homsar's line could still be construed to make some sense.
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| "I do what I'm told..."
| Email [[dragon]] (Jan. 13, 2003)
| Strong Bad had just told him to get out of his house.
| Coherent given the situation.
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|
*"AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hey Reggie! Is that rhinoceros around?"
*"I'm a song from the sixties."
| Email [[interview]] (Feb. 10, 2003)
| These are Homsar's actual lines in this email. The other "lines" were spoken by Strong Bad.
| Homsar's first line is peculiar, but it makes enough sense that Strong Bad, as well as the viewer, can figure out that he's referring to Strong Sad. The second line is a comedic repetition of one of Strong Bad's lines.
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| '''[[Toons]]:''' "ToOoOoOons!" '''[[Games]]:''' "James!" '''[[Characters]]:''' "[[Wikipedia:Kelsey Grammer|Kelsey Grammer]]!" '''[[Downloads]]:''' "Thank youuuuu." '''[[Store]]:''' "Legitimate business." '''[[Email]]:''' "AaAaAaAaAaAaA!"
| [[Homsar Main Page]] (Feb. 10, 2003)
|Homsar provides unique ways of reading the buttons.
|
*Toons: merely exaggerated pronunciation.
*Games: merely mispronounced.
*Characters: Kelsey Grammer is an actor, so it fits.
*Downloads: he could be giving thanks for receiving a download.
*Store: He is implying that the store is a "legitimate business".
*Email: He is obviously dizzy, as the area is swirling.
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| "AAAaaaAAAaaa-I'm just in time for the murder mystery!"
| Email [[suntan]] (Jun. 16, 2003)
| A "Celebrity(?) Testimonial" of Strong Bad's Ab-Abber 2000. Homsar had used it to draw a calculator with the word "SALAd" on his shirt.
| Homsar's line does not make sense in this scene, but the sentence itself is coherent.
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| "AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hi, Wonder Mike! I'm Homsar! The captain of the gravy train. Climb aboard! '''I've brought my best foot flowered... Pshoooo!''' Sure beats breaking up with me. Don't look now! I'm just a friendly reminder. AaAaAaAaAaAaA! AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Think I won the Powerball."
| [[Homsar#Character Video Transcript|Homsar's Character Video]] (Jul. 14, 2003)
| Homsar introduces himself.
| "I've brought my best foot flowered", if taken at face value, is a prime example of a word salad — the sentence makes no sense either in context or by itself, and yet is still syntactically valid. However, Homsar might have meant to say "forward" instead of "flowered", which would make the sentence make much more sense. The rest of Homsar's video is made up of coherent but disconnected sentences that each make sense by themselves. If there were such a thing as a "sentence salad", this would be it. It is possible, however, that he simply wasn't sure what he should be saying.
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| "I'm crying on the inside..."
| Email [[impression]] (Aug. 25, 2003)
| Homsar had just been disqualified from the Strong Sad Lookalike Contest because he was mistaken for Strong Sad.
| This line makes sense for two reasons: It's something Strong Sad would likely say, and Homsar himself may have been sad that he was disqualified.
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| "AaAaAa! I'm open for interpretation!"
| [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] (Oct. 29, 2003)
| Homsar's secret costume, Slash from Guns N' Roses.
| Could be reinterpreted as "What do you think of my costume?" In addition, this could be a reference to whether his sudden appearance in the cartoon has any significance to the story.
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| "You gotta get yours, I gotta get mine."
| Email [[army]] (Jan. 5, 2004)
| Responding to Homestar's call to action for the [[Homestarmy]].
| This line makes some sense in this context — it could be construed that Homsar really is in the Homestarmy for personal reasons.
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| "I'm forever your girl."
| Email [[different town]] (Feb. 23, 2004)
| Spoken as [[Different Town Character Variations|Modestly Hot Homsar]]. It should be noted that this took place in Strong Bad's imagination.
| This phrase makes perfect sense, considering that Homsar was just transformed into a female figure.
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| "It's time for tasteball!"
| Email [[theme park]] (May 25, 2004)
| Giving information to Homestar Runner.
| This one is a close call. On the one hand, the viewer is left wondering exactly what tasteball is, but Homestar replies with "Oh crap, it's tasteball already?", indicating that it was not unexpected for Homsar to say that. Tasteball could presumably be one of their duties as mascots. On the other hand, Homsar's line may qualify as a true word salad, and Homestar's reply could just be a typical clueless reaction. As they are working at a theme park, Homsar could also be referring to amusement parks' tendencies to create unique games for their customers.
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|
*"DaAaAaA! I'm a trendy tote bag!"
*"I'm not gonna lie to you, that's a healthy piece of real estate!"
*"That's a real popular song! Who wants to hear of it fifty times more?"
| Email [[for kids]] (Aug. 9, 2004)
| Homsar on his kids' show, ''[[Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?]]''
| "I'm a trendy tote bag" makes some sense in context, because Homsar is appearing on a public television show, and tote bags are among the most common free gifts given by public television stations in pledge drives. His line about real estate (referring to the letter G) makes a small amount of sense in context. His last line is strongly connected to the scene, in which they had just finished singing "Stave It Off, 1-2-3".
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| "I blew it, man. I lose my touch."
| [[Halloween Fairstival]] (Oct. 29, 2004)
| This was a line spoken by Kumar from ''Bottle Rocket'', which was Homsar's costume.
| This makes sense because he's quoting the character upon which his costume is based.
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|
*"Alms for the pudgy! Alms for the pudgy."
*"You're a real state trooper."
| [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] (Dec. 20, 2004)
| Homsar is running a donation station, and Homestar stops by, spits in the donation can, then leaves again.
| Homsar's first line is a take on "Alms for the poor", a common greeting for beggars, panhandlers, and donation takers. The second line is an odd way of saying "thanks". Both make sense.
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| "I'm the human wedgie."
| Email [[origins]] (Jan. 31, 2005)
| Homsar was glued to Marzipan as a prank.
| This line seems to indicate that Homsar is aware of his predicament, but it doesn't really relate all that well. However, "The Human (noun)" is a pretty common way to describe one's self performing the function of an inanimate object — for example, "The Human Cannonball" — and this could be akin to his calling himself "The Human Prank".
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| "Caramel corn for president, please."
| Email [[rampage]] (Apr. 11, 2005)
| Homsar gives "praise" to Strong Sad at his Poetry Slam.
| As praise, this sentence makes little sense. On its own, it also doesn't make much sense, though it is fairly close to "Kernel/Colonel Corn", which is a common joke. It may be a stretch to call this a word salad.
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| "I'm just me, can't you see? I'm just a silly little bumblebee."
| Email [[record book]] (Jul. 25, 2005)
| Sung while jumping up and down on one foot with nine pieces of chewing gum on his face. Coach Z did the same thing moments before in order to win a record, but Strong Bad told him that there were no records for something that no one else would ever do.
| There are two possible explanations for this. The more likely explanation is that Homsar actually does jump up and down on one foot with nine pieces of chewing gum on his face while singing the "I'm Just Me" song on a regular basis, which is ironic, since Strong Bad had just said that no one else would ever do that. The other is that Homsar is mimicking Coach Z, although this is not nearly as likely, as it isn't nearly as ironic as the former explanation.
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| "Location, location, location!"
| [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] (Nov. 1, 2005)
| Homsar dresses up as Tingle from the Legend of Zelda series. He says this after Homestar rejects his "choices".
| Homsar's quote here is a common phrase used in real estate (the three most important things). It does make some sense when paired with his costume, as [[Wikipedia:Tingle|Tingle]] sold maps to Link in his debut in [[Wikipedia:Majora's Mask|Majora's Mask]].
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| "Let's sing a song of Pennzoil!"
| [[Fall Float Parade]] (Nov. 21, 2005)
| Two Homsars drive through the parade.
| Could be construed as a product endorsement, or as a humorous reference to product endorsement, since Pennzoil has sponsored many such parades in the real world.
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| "I'm a little light in the leftovers!"
| [[Weclome Back]] (Jul. 3, 2006)
| Homsar says this while standing on a merchandise table.
| Homsar takes a common phrase and substitutes a random word — something he does fairly often. This sentence could be construed to mean "I don't have much leftover stuff", or "I'm not very smart". It should also be noted that being "a little light in the '''loafers'''" is a common euphemism for homosexuality. The phrase itself, when put into context, is likely Homsar's way of saying that the merchandise is a limited time offer.
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| "This dinner party is top dollar!"
| [[cliffhangers]] (Sept. 18, 2006)
| Homsar says this while hanging off a cliff by a rope.
| Not exactly appropriate given the situation, but he does acknowledge that he is at a gathering. It could also be inferred that he likes hanging upside-down. Additionally, he could be referencing the King of Town's tendency to eat random things.
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| "Eggs tree, eggs tree! This get-up is mah get down!"
| [[Happy Hallow-day]] (Oct. 30, 2006)
| Homsar is holding a newspaper with the headline "Eggs Tree! Eggs Tree!"
| "Eggs Tree" sounds like the way Homestar pronounced "extree" earlier in the toon, albeit broken up into words. Plus, during this scene he's standing next to a tree full of actual eggs. "This get-up is mah get down" refers to when Homestar says that the Newspaper Boy outfit was NOT his Halloween costume. The opposite is the case for Homsar.
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| "Well, hello, chocolate cake!"
| [[strong badathlon]] (Jan. 29, 2007)
| Homsar and Marzipan are having a tea party when The Cheat, covered in [[whatsit]], comes flying through the air and lands on the table.
| This line makes some sense in this context, since chocolate and whatsit are both brown in color. Another way this line could make sense is that "chocolate cake" can be used as a term of endearment. It is also possible that Homsar could be referring to the shape of The Cheat as a piece of chocolate cake.
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| "AaAaAh! My cheese is 50 cent!"
| [[Who Said What Now?]]
| This is Homsar's quote for the game.
| Since all of the character quotes in the game reflect the character in some way, this quote makes sense, since Homsar's character that of a non-sequitor.
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| "These Easter pants are getting way too tight!"
| [[DNA Evidence (toon)|DNA Evidence]] (May 15, 2007)
| This is Homsar's reply to Strong Sad, when the latter asks the former if he will say anything at the end of the toon.
| There are a couple of things this line could reference: Homsar's occasional appearances in [[Easter egg]]s, and the common running gag of [[pants]]. Perhaps Homsar is somewhat dazed by Strong Sad's long exposition and is uttering whatever is on his mind. It could also mean that he feels pressure from Strong Sad after witnessing such an out-of-character revelation from him, and wishes to remove himself from the uncomfortable situation or change the subject. It could also be referring to himself, "The Human Wedgie". Another explanation is he refers to secrets as "easter pants" (hence the term EASTER egg) and he can't keep much more of them.
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| "Ennn-joy!"
| [[160 Seconds]] (June 5, 2007)
| The English-speaking males take turns reading the introduction of the video.
| This quote makes perfect sense because they hope the viewers like the video.
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| "AaAaAaAaA! Don't count on it, monster may-an!"
| [[mini-golf]] (Aug 13, 2007)
| Homsar's response to Strong Bad while floating through the air above [[Sweet Puttin' Cakes]], when Strong Bad asked the [[Drive-Thru Whale]] "Homsar, is that you?"
| This would appear to make literal sense, as Homsar is not inside the Drive-Thru Whale, though he appears to have given Strong Bad another new nickname.
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| "I'm a touchy feely-holic!"
| [[Jibblies 2]] (Oct 29, 2007)
| Homsar's response to the [[Horrible Painting]].
| This response makes sense in reference to his costume, the "Noony Noony Noo" Typewriter Guy and can be interpreted as "I like using myself to type."
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| "I'm a long-standing munch date!"
| [[Where's The Cheat? (game)]] (Nov 12, 2007)
| Strong Bad meets Homsar in a secret room.
| This would make sense if Homsar felt he was waiting too long for someone to access his Easter Egg.
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| "My name's Millions, and I'm the son of a Chipwich!"
| [[fan club]] (Jan 28, 2008)
| Homsar's response to Strong Sad's mentioning of the ongoing debate of the non sequitur championship.
| This makes perfect sense as a response to the mentioning of non sequiturs, one of which this definitely is. Homsar's first line may also be him trying to introduce himself to Strong Sad's [[The Deleteheads|fan club]].
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| "AaaAAaaaaAaaa! Step right up! I'm a crudely drawn cupcake! '''Don't forget your tapesicle!'''"
| [[Homestar Ruiner]] (Aug 11, 2008)
| This is the message you receive when you call Homsar using Homestar's cell phone.
| Homsar does something he does fairly often. When he doesn't really have anything to communicate, he just draws something out of mid-air, however he does have the shape of a "crudely drawn cupcake". "Don't forget your tapesicle" is a word salad, or may simply be a reminder for the caller to leave a message.
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| "Daaah, I'm a knock knock joke about jogging suits!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept 15, 2008)
| This is what Homsar usually says when you try to talk to him.
| This sounds like a word salad, however, when Strong Bad gains the ability to understand Homsar this is translated into "Hello, Strong Bad. What's the haps?"
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| "Pucker up, Dice Man! I'm as upholstered as I wanna be!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept 15, 2008)
| Homsar usually says this when Strong Bad asks him to join Strong Badia.
| At first glance this may seem like a word salad, (with Strong Bad hoping he's not Diceman,) but when Strong Bad can understand Homsar, this is translated as "Why should my people risk open war for you and your considerable style?"
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| "Sign me up for soccer class, Debra!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept 15, 2008)
| Homsar's response to Strong Bad attempting to speak in Homsar's language.
| It may seem like a word salad, but when Strong Bad speaks Homsar's language after being enlightened to Homsar's ways, it is translated as "Why are you speaking gibberish Strong Bad? Seriously, you sound like a two-years old boy."
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| "Hotel coupons for dinner again?"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept 15, 2008)
| Homsar's response to Strong Bad when he shows Homsar one of the Homsartifacts.
| Like the other responses from Strong Badia the Free, this sounds like a word salad, and has yet to be translated, but is probably Homsar trying to tell Strong Bad to put it in the "pylon."
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| *"Daaah, no thanks, officer! I've got the one big round one!"
*"AaAaAa! I'm the long way back from naptime!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept 15, 2008)
| Homsar's response to Strong Sad's droning in the Maps and Minions game.
| While they appear to be word salads, like everything else Homsar says in the game, they mean something else. In this case, Homsar is probably telling Strong Sad that he is not afraid and is taking the King of Town ("the one big round one") back to the Castle. "I'm the long way back from naptime" may be a threat to knock Strong Sad out.
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| "AaAaAa! I'm the Captain Caveman of the graveyard train!"
| [[Halloween '08]] (October 30, 2008)
| Homsar speaks this line disguised as Captain Caveman, popping out from behind a grave.
| This sentence makes perfect literal sense, though he added the word "train" in.
|}

== Analysis and Summary ==

As shown here, there are logical arguments for almost all of Homsar's phrases. It seems that Homsar simply has an odd and somewhat indirect way of communicating with others.

There is a pattern that appears during this analysis, however: In almost every case, if there's a strong reason for Homsar to communicate a particular concept, he'll do it unerringly — one can always tell what he means. It is when he doesn't have a particularly strong reason to communicate that his speech becomes more random. For example, if he has a request ("Is that rhinoceros around?", "That's a real popular song! Who wants to hear of it fifty times more?"), his sentence relates quite clearly to the scene, and is itself perfectly valid, even if there was a much more direct way of saying it. But in his character video, his sentences are almost completely disconnected from one another, and in [[suntan]] and [[theme park]], he had no particular reason to send a message, so he seemed to just pull a random sentence out of thin air, perhaps just so he could say something.

It seems clear that while Homsar doesn't have a strong grasp on reality, he is pretty coherent most of the time, and he can relate to other characters and his surroundings when he needs to. Looking at the definition of "word salad" as given by Wikipedia, it does not appear that Homsar suffers from this disorder — at least, not much.

However, in [[Strong Badia the Free]] it is determined that Homsar's speech is actually a well-developed language, as Strong Bad is briefly able to understand it, making Homsar's speech make perfect sense. To Strong Sad, however, the two characters appear to be speaking nonsense.

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User:DorianGray/Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns

0rion — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:31:51 GMT

0rion: /* Homsar's Speech in Chronological Order */ This will need a proper link once the main article for the toon is finished.

'''Homsar's speech patterns''' are quite unusual, and many believe that his strange way of speaking is the result of a mental disorder such as [[Wikipedia:Word salad (mental health)|word salad]], a condition in which sentence structure and grammar are intact, but individual words are picked at random and have no particular meaning. This article pulls together all of the things [[Homsar]] has said since his introduction in the [[Homestar Runner universe]], identifies the context of each line, and determines whether or not the line qualifies as a word salad.

== Homsar's Speech in Chronological Order ==

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="100%" style="border-collapse:collapse"
|-------------------------------------------------- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Quote !! Toon !! Context !! Comments
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "Uhdyeah, what ees it, Strong Bayaad?"
| Email [[homsar]] (2001)
| Responding to [[Strong Bad]], who had just gotten his attention.
| This is a simple greeting.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "DaAAahhh, hello, [[Marzipan|Marzypa-yun]]. It's Homsar! Dahhh, I was just calling to thank you for the flowers you sent me while I was in the hospital. Daahh, I'm feeling much better now, but I still can't feel my leeegs. Okay, bye-dee-bye."
| [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]] (Dec. 2001/Jan. 2002)
| Homsar has presumably recovered from having the [[Heavy Lourde]] dropped on him.
| Homsar speaks in basically perfect (if exaggerated) English in this message.
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|
*"I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for some candy today!"
*"YaAaAaAh, I'm the original ladies' man!"
*"If you give me a treat, make sure that it's sweet, and I'll eeeat iiiiiit..."
*"Oh no, I think this is my favorite!"
| [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] (Oct. 27, 2001)
| Homsar's intro, and then his lines after being handed Shavin' Creem, black and orange taffy, and a wrench, respectively.
| His intro is a paraphrasing of the catch phrase of [[Wikipedia:J. Wellington Wimpy|Wimpy]], the character from the [[Wikipedia:Popeye|Popeye]] cartoons (who he is dressed as), namely "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today." His responses to the treats are strange, but not completely random.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
|
*"Oh no! You shanked my Jengaship!"
*"AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hey, Tubbs! I just lost my Jengajam."
| [[Where's The Cheat?]] (Feb. 25, 2002)
| Homsar is playing Connect Four with [[Strong Sad]], then speaks to [[Bubs]] when he enters the room.
| Homsar's line does reference two games, although not the one he is actually playing, Connect Four, as Strong Sad observes. He doesn't quite get Bubs' name right.
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| "AaAaAaAaAaAaA!!! I'm saving the best for last!"
| Email [[your friends]] (Oct. 14, 2002)
| During the montage, Strong Bad buries Homsar and covers him with scorpions, which begin to crawl into his mouth.
| It is debatable whether Homsar's phrase has any connection to his predicament. If it is connected, it would seem to imply that he enjoys eating scorpions.
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|
* "I'm the ghost of Christmas past."
* "And also with you."
| [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] (Oct. 29, 2002)
| [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] and [[The Cheat]] walk up to Homsar, whose "pumpkin" is an eggplant with a spoon taped to it.
| Homsar's first response references ''A Christmas Carol'', while his second line is a common response in many religious prayers. Both have some connection to the scene, and neither one is a word salad.
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| "When can we start the Jeffersons?"
| [[Strong Sad's Lament]] (Nov. 18, 2002)
| Strong Sad mentions in his journal this was all Homsar said to him that day.
| The context is unknown. Perhaps he was commenting on how boring Strong Sad is, and expressing his desire to do something else.
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| "Nowowowow, this is the thrill of a lifetime."
| [[Happy T!]] (Nov. 28, 2002)
| This Easter egg was found by clicking on the bottom-right corner of the page.
| The other characters all said some variation of "Happy T!", but Homsar's line could still be construed to make some sense.
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| "I do what I'm told..."
| Email [[dragon]] (Jan. 13, 2003)
| Strong Bad had just told him to get out of his house.
| Coherent given the situation.
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|
*"AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hey Reggie! Is that rhinoceros around?"
*"I'm a song from the sixties."
| Email [[interview]] (Feb. 10, 2003)
| These are Homsar's actual lines in this email. The other "lines" were spoken by Strong Bad.
| Homsar's first line is peculiar, but it makes enough sense that Strong Bad, as well as the viewer, can figure out that he's referring to Strong Sad. The second line is a comedic repetition of one of Strong Bad's lines.
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| '''[[Toons]]:''' "ToOoOoOons!" '''[[Games]]:''' "James!" '''[[Characters]]:''' "[[Wikipedia:Kelsey Grammer|Kelsey Grammer]]!" '''[[Downloads]]:''' "Thank youuuuu." '''[[Store]]:''' "Legitimate business." '''[[Email]]:''' "AaAaAaAaAaAaA!"
| [[Homsar Main Page]] (Feb. 10, 2003)
|Homsar provides unique ways of reading the buttons.
|
*Toons: merely exaggerated pronunciation.
*Games: merely mispronounced.
*Characters: Kelsey Grammer is an actor, so it fits.
*Downloads: he could be giving thanks for receiving a download.
*Store: He is implying that the store is a "legitimate business".
*Email: He is obviously dizzy, as the area is swirling.
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| "AAAaaaAAAaaa-I'm just in time for the murder mystery!"
| Email [[suntan]] (Jun. 16, 2003)
| A "Celebrity(?) Testimonial" of Strong Bad's Ab-Abber 2000. Homsar had used it to draw a calculator with the word "SALAd" on his shirt.
| Homsar's line does not make sense in this scene, but the sentence itself is coherent.
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| "AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hi, Wonder Mike! I'm Homsar! The captain of the gravy train. Climb aboard! '''I've brought my best foot flowered... Pshoooo!''' Sure beats breaking up with me. Don't look now! I'm just a friendly reminder. AaAaAaAaAaAaA! AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Think I won the Powerball."
| [[Homsar#Character Video Transcript|Homsar's Character Video]] (Jul. 14, 2003)
| Homsar introduces himself.
| "I've brought my best foot flowered", if taken at face value, is a prime example of a word salad — the sentence makes no sense either in context or by itself, and yet is still syntactically valid. However, Homsar might have meant to say "forward" instead of "flowered", which would make the sentence make much more sense. The rest of Homsar's video is made up of coherent but disconnected sentences that each make sense by themselves. If there were such a thing as a "sentence salad", this would be it. It is possible, however, that he simply wasn't sure what he should be saying.
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| "I'm crying on the inside..."
| Email [[impression]] (Aug. 25, 2003)
| Homsar had just been disqualified from the Strong Sad Lookalike Contest because he was mistaken for Strong Sad.
| This line makes sense for two reasons: It's something Strong Sad would likely say, and Homsar himself may have been sad that he was disqualified.
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| "AaAaAa! I'm open for interpretation!"
| [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] (Oct. 29, 2003)
| Homsar's secret costume, Slash from Guns N' Roses.
| Could be reinterpreted as "What do you think of my costume?" In addition, this could be a reference to whether his sudden appearance in the cartoon has any significance to the story.
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| "You gotta get yours, I gotta get mine."
| Email [[army]] (Jan. 5, 2004)
| Responding to Homestar's call to action for the [[Homestarmy]].
| This line makes some sense in this context — it could be construed that Homsar really is in the Homestarmy for personal reasons.
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| "I'm forever your girl."
| Email [[different town]] (Feb. 23, 2004)
| Spoken as [[Different Town Character Variations|Modestly Hot Homsar]]. It should be noted that this took place in Strong Bad's imagination.
| This phrase makes perfect sense, considering that Homsar was just transformed into a female figure.
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| "It's time for tasteball!"
| Email [[theme park]] (May 25, 2004)
| Giving information to Homestar Runner.
| This one is a close call. On the one hand, the viewer is left wondering exactly what tasteball is, but Homestar replies with "Oh crap, it's tasteball already?", indicating that it was not unexpected for Homsar to say that. Tasteball could presumably be one of their duties as mascots. On the other hand, Homsar's line may qualify as a true word salad, and Homestar's reply could just be a typical clueless reaction. As they are working at a theme park, Homsar could also be referring to amusement parks' tendencies to create unique games for their customers.
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*"DaAaAaA! I'm a trendy tote bag!"
*"I'm not gonna lie to you, that's a healthy piece of real estate!"
*"That's a real popular song! Who wants to hear of it fifty times more?"
| Email [[for kids]] (Aug. 9, 2004)
| Homsar on his kids' show, ''[[Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?]]''
| "I'm a trendy tote bag" makes some sense in context, because Homsar is appearing on a public television show, and tote bags are among the most common free gifts given by public television stations in pledge drives. His line about real estate (referring to the letter G) makes a small amount of sense in context. His last line is strongly connected to the scene, in which they had just finished singing "Stave It Off, 1-2-3".
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| "I blew it, man. I lose my touch."
| [[Halloween Fairstival]] (Oct. 29, 2004)
| This was a line spoken by Kumar from ''Bottle Rocket'', which was Homsar's costume.
| This makes sense because he's quoting the character upon which his costume is based.
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|
*"Alms for the pudgy! Alms for the pudgy."
*"You're a real state trooper."
| [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] (Dec. 20, 2004)
| Homsar is running a donation station, and Homestar stops by, spits in the donation can, then leaves again.
| Homsar's first line is a take on "Alms for the poor", a common greeting for beggars, panhandlers, and donation takers. The second line is an odd way of saying "thanks". Both make sense.
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| "I'm the human wedgie."
| Email [[origins]] (Jan. 31, 2005)
| Homsar was glued to Marzipan as a prank.
| This line seems to indicate that Homsar is aware of his predicament, but it doesn't really relate all that well. However, "The Human (noun)" is a pretty common way to describe one's self performing the function of an inanimate object — for example, "The Human Cannonball" — and this could be akin to his calling himself "The Human Prank".
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| "Caramel corn for president, please."
| Email [[rampage]] (Apr. 11, 2005)
| Homsar gives "praise" to Strong Sad at his Poetry Slam.
| As praise, this sentence makes little sense. On its own, it also doesn't make much sense, though it is fairly close to "Kernel/Colonel Corn", which is a common joke. It may be a stretch to call this a word salad.
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| "I'm just me, can't you see? I'm just a silly little bumblebee."
| Email [[record book]] (Jul. 25, 2005)
| Sung while jumping up and down on one foot with nine pieces of chewing gum on his face. Coach Z did the same thing moments before in order to win a record, but Strong Bad told him that there were no records for something that no one else would ever do.
| There are two possible explanations for this. The more likely explanation is that Homsar actually does jump up and down on one foot with nine pieces of chewing gum on his face while singing the "I'm Just Me" song on a regular basis, which is ironic, since Strong Bad had just said that no one else would ever do that. The other is that Homsar is mimicking Coach Z, although this is not nearly as likely, as it isn't nearly as ironic as the former explanation.
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| "Location, location, location!"
| [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] (Nov. 1, 2005)
| Homsar dresses up as Tingle from the Legend of Zelda series. He says this after Homestar rejects his "choices".
| Homsar's quote here is a common phrase used in real estate (the three most important things). It does make some sense when paired with his costume, as [[Wikipedia:Tingle|Tingle]] sold maps to Link in his debut in [[Wikipedia:Majora's Mask|Majora's Mask]].
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| "Let's sing a song of Pennzoil!"
| [[Fall Float Parade]] (Nov. 21, 2005)
| Two Homsars drive through the parade.
| Could be construed as a product endorsement, or as a humorous reference to product endorsement, since Pennzoil has sponsored many such parades in the real world.
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| "I'm a little light in the leftovers!"
| [[Weclome Back]] (Jul. 3, 2006)
| Homsar says this while standing on a merchandise table.
| Homsar takes a common phrase and substitutes a random word — something he does fairly often. This sentence could be construed to mean "I don't have much leftover stuff", or "I'm not very smart". It should also be noted that being "a little light in the '''loafers'''" is a common euphemism for homosexuality. The phrase itself, when put into context, is likely Homsar's way of saying that the merchandise is a limited time offer.
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| "This dinner party is top dollar!"
| [[cliffhangers]] (Sept. 18, 2006)
| Homsar says this while hanging off a cliff by a rope.
| Not exactly appropriate given the situation, but he does acknowledge that he is at a gathering. It could also be inferred that he likes hanging upside-down. Additionally, he could be referencing the King of Town's tendency to eat random things.
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| "Eggs tree, eggs tree! This get-up is mah get down!"
| [[Happy Hallow-day]] (Oct. 30, 2006)
| Homsar is holding a newspaper with the headline "Eggs Tree! Eggs Tree!"
| "Eggs Tree" sounds like the way Homestar pronounced "extree" earlier in the toon, albeit broken up into words. Plus, during this scene he's standing next to a tree full of actual eggs. "This get-up is mah get down" refers to when Homestar says that the Newspaper Boy outfit was NOT his Halloween costume. The opposite is the case for Homsar.
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| "Well, hello, chocolate cake!"
| [[strong badathlon]] (Jan. 29, 2007)
| Homsar and Marzipan are having a tea party when The Cheat, covered in [[whatsit]], comes flying through the air and lands on the table.
| This line makes some sense in this context, since chocolate and whatsit are both brown in color. Another way this line could make sense is that "chocolate cake" can be used as a term of endearment. It is also possible that Homsar could be referring to the shape of The Cheat as a piece of chocolate cake.
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| "AaAaAh! My cheese is 50 cent!"
| [[Who Said What Now?]]
| This is Homsar's quote for the game.
| Since all of the character quotes in the game reflect the character in some way, this quote makes sense, since Homsar's character that of a non-sequitor.
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| "These Easter pants are getting way too tight!"
| [[DNA Evidence (toon)|DNA Evidence]] (May 15, 2007)
| This is Homsar's reply to Strong Sad, when the latter asks the former if he will say anything at the end of the toon.
| There are a couple of things this line could reference: Homsar's occasional appearances in [[Easter egg]]s, and the common running gag of [[pants]]. Perhaps Homsar is somewhat dazed by Strong Sad's long exposition and is uttering whatever is on his mind. It could also mean that he feels pressure from Strong Sad after witnessing such an out-of-character revelation from him, and wishes to remove himself from the uncomfortable situation or change the subject. It could also be referring to himself, "The Human Wedgie". Another explanation is he refers to secrets as "easter pants" (hence the term EASTER egg) and he can't keep much more of them.
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| "Ennn-joy!"
| [[160 Seconds]] (June 5, 2007)
| The English-speaking males take turns reading the introduction of the video.
| This quote makes perfect sense because they hope the viewers like the video.
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| "AaAaAaAaA! Don't count on it, monster may-an!"
| [[mini-golf]] (Aug 13, 2007)
| Homsar's response to Strong Bad while floating through the air above [[Sweet Puttin' Cakes]], when Strong Bad asked the [[Drive-Thru Whale]] "Homsar, is that you?"
| This would appear to make literal sense, as Homsar is not inside the Drive-Thru Whale, though he appears to have given Strong Bad another new nickname.
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| "I'm a touchy feely-holic!"
| [[Jibblies 2]] (Oct 29, 2007)
| Homsar's response to the [[Horrible Painting]].
| This response makes sense in reference to his costume, the "Noony Noony Noo" Typewriter Guy and can be interpreted as "I like using myself to type."
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| "I'm a long-standing munch date!"
| [[Where's The Cheat? (game)]] (Nov 12, 2007)
| Strong Bad meets Homsar in a secret room.
| This would make sense if Homsar felt he was waiting too long for someone to access his Easter Egg.
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| "My name's Millions, and I'm the son of a Chipwich!"
| [[fan club]] (Jan 28, 2008)
| Homsar's response to Strong Sad's mentioning of the ongoing debate of the non sequitur championship.
| This makes perfect sense as a response to the mentioning of non sequiturs, one of which this definitely is. Homsar's first line may also be him trying to introduce himself to Strong Sad's [[The Deleteheads|fan club]].
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| "AaaAAaaaaAaaa! Step right up! I'm a crudely drawn cupcake! '''Don't forget your tapesicle!'''"
| [[Homestar Ruiner]] (Aug 11, 2008)
| This is the message you receive when you call Homsar using Homestar's cell phone.
| Homsar does something he does fairly often. When he doesn't really have anything to communicate, he just draws something out of mid-air, however he does have the shape of a "crudely drawn cupcake". "Don't forget your tapesicle" is a word salad, or may simply be a reminder for the caller to leave a message.
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| "Daaah, I'm a knock knock joke about jogging suits!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept 15, 2008)
| This is what Homsar usually says when you try to talk to him.
| This sounds like a word salad, however, when Strong Bad gains the ability to understand Homsar this is translated into "Hello, Strong Bad. What's the haps?"
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| "Pucker up, Dice Man! I'm as upholstered as I wanna be!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept 15, 2008)
| Homsar usually says this when Strong Bad asks him to join Strong Badia.
| At first glance this may seem like a word salad, (with Strong Bad hoping he's not Diceman,) but when Strong Bad can understand Homsar, this is translated as "Why should my people risk open war for you and your considerable style?"
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| "Sign me up for soccer class, Debra!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept 15, 2008)
| Homsar's response to Strong Bad attempting to speak in Homsar's language.
| It may seem like a word salad, but when Strong Bad speaks Homsar's language after being enlightened to Homsar's ways, it is translated as "Why are you speaking gibberish Strong Bad? Seriously, you sound like a two-years old boy."
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| "Hotel coupons for dinner again?"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept 15, 2008)
| Homsar's response to Strong Bad when he shows Homsar one of the Homsartifacts.
| Like the other responses from Strong Badia the Free, this sounds like a word salad, and has yet to be translated, but is probably Homsar trying to tell Strong Bad to put it in the "pylon."
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| *"Daaah, no thanks, officer! I've got the one big round one!"
*"AaAaAa! I'm the long way back from naptime!"
| [[Strong Badia the Free]] (Sept 15, 2008)
| Homsar's response to Strong Sad's droning in the Maps and Minions game.
| While they appear to be word salads, like everything else Homsar says in the game, they mean something else. In this case, Homsar is probably telling Strong Sad that he is not afraid and is taking the King of Town ("the one big round one") back to the Castle. "I'm the long way back from naptime" may be a threat to knock Strong Sad out.
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| "AaAaAa! I'm the Captain Caveman of the graveyard train!"
| [[Halloween '08]] (October 30, 2008)
| Homsar speaks this line disguised as Captain Caveman, popping out from behind a grave.
| This sentence makes perfect literal sense, though he added the word "train" in.
|}

== Analysis and Summary ==

As shown here, there are logical arguments for almost all of Homsar's phrases. It seems that Homsar simply has an odd and somewhat indirect way of communicating with others.

There is a pattern that appears during this analysis, however: In almost every case, if there's a strong reason for Homsar to communicate a particular concept, he'll do it unerringly — one can always tell what he means. It is when he doesn't have a particularly strong reason to communicate that his speech becomes more random. For example, if he has a request ("Is that rhinoceros around?", "That's a real popular song! Who wants to hear of it fifty times more?"), his sentence relates quite clearly to the scene, and is itself perfectly valid, even if there was a much more direct way of saying it. But in his character video, his sentences are almost completely disconnected from one another, and in [[suntan]] and [[theme park]], he had no particular reason to send a message, so he seemed to just pull a random sentence out of thin air, perhaps just so he could say something.

It seems clear that while Homsar doesn't have a strong grasp on reality, he is pretty coherent most of the time, and he can relate to other characters and his surroundings when he needs to. Looking at the definition of "word salad" as given by Wikipedia, it does not appear that Homsar suffers from this disorder — at least, not much.

However, in [[Strong Badia the Free]] it is determined that Homsar's speech is actually a well-developed language, as Strong Bad is briefly able to understand it, making Homsar's speech make perfect sense. To Strong Sad, however, the two characters appear to be speaking nonsense.

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Homsar

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{{charnav|Homsar|homsar|The Poopsmith|Homestar Runner}}
{{aboutcharacter}} {{foremail|homsar}}
[[Image:homsar evolution current.png|thumb|{{homsarquote}}]]

== Biography ==
'''Homsar''' is perhaps the strangest and most enigmatic of all the [[Characters#Main characters|primary residents]] of the [[Homestar Runner universe]]. He was originally created as a result of a typo in the [[Strong Bad Email|email]] [[homsar]], in which Vinnie C. asked, "If you hate homsar so much, why don't you kill him?" (Presumably, Vinnie had actually meant to type "[[Homestar Runner|Homestar]]".) [[Strong Bad]] promptly dropped a [[Heavy Lourde]] on Homsar and left him for [[Death|dead]]. [[The Brothers Chaps]] later decided to keep Homsar as a main character, and they brought him back in an Easter egg in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] and in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]], where he thanked [[Marzipan]] for the flowers she sent him while he was in the hospital.

Homsar occasionally makes brief appearances in various cartoons, often in Easter eggs (and has even been referred to as the "secret guy"). In every [[Holidays#Halloween (October 31st)|Halloween toon]] since his introduction, Homsar has appeared in an Easter egg somewhere in the middle of the Toon. (This is usually triggered by clicking somewhere on or near [[The Poopsmith]].)

[[Image:3dhomsar.png|thumb|140px|{{homsarquote|68}}]] 

Homsar doesn't have very many friends other than [[Strong Sad]] and Marzipan. Most of the other characters generally regard him as a nuisance. In particular, Strong Bad seems to dislike him the most; he states in [[interview]] that he would rather gnaw his own leg off than talk to him for 3 seconds. [[Bubs]] apparently refuses to talk to him, as evidenced in [[Where's The Cheat?]]. Despite his unpopularity, he serves in the [[Homestarmy]] and occasionally attends parties where the other main characters are present. He enjoys playing board games with Strong Sad, and has organized his own activities, such as a [[tree hugging]] concert and the play "[[stupid stuff|Butt's Twelve by Pies]]" (starring Lighting and Set Decoration). He ran the Merch Masala on the [[Cool Tapes]] tour in [[Weclome Back]].

In the email [[interview]], Strong Bad, using a pen puppet, claimed that Homsar was "raised by a cup of coffee". In [[fan club]], Homsar proclaimed that he was "the son of a [[Wikipedia:Chipwich|Chipwich]]", and an Easter egg revealed a photo of a cup of coffee and an ice cream sandwich labeled "Homsar's Parents".

Homsar was the winner of a month-long sales competition between himself and Senor Cardgage for the title of [[Non-Sequitur Champion]]. The topic was brought up in [[fan club]], and the loser had to complete a coherent thought as punishment on Homestar Runner's [[The Show]]. (It was later annouced that [[Senor Cardgage]] was the loser.)

*'''Possible Domicile:''' [[Homsar Reservation]]
*'''Debut:''' Email [[homsar]]
*[[:Category:Homsar Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

==Distinctive Characteristics==

===Speech===
Homsar's most distinct characteristic is his unusual manner of speaking, which has varied over time. His tone of voice is generally quite exaggerated, and he often begins sentences by wailing "AaAAaaAAaaAAaa!". His speech tends to range from perfectly normal English to often random and disconnected phrases that have little to no connection to the scene. Many believe that Homsar speaks in [[Wikipedia:Word salad (mental health)|word salads]] (a speech disorder characteristic of [[Wikipedia:Schizophrenia|schizophrenia]] in which grammar and sentence structure is often intact, but the words themselves have no particular meaning), but a [[Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns|detailed analysis of his speech patterns]] has shown that this is seldom the case. Instead, it seems that Homsar can and does relate well to his environment and other characters when he needs to, but is also prone to saying completely random things when there's no particular reason for him to stay in context.

It has been argued that his unusual speech patterns are the result of being crushed by the Heavy Lourde. Some find this unlikely, considering that he was able to speak more or less normally when he called Marzipan after that event. Others suggest that it is possible that the negative effect was a delayed reaction.

As shown in [[DNA Evidence]], he can make his voice sound like a whole crowd of people, even when he is alone. In [[Happy Dethemberween]], he and Strong Sad demonstrate that he can also make chiming noises when hit on the head.

In ''[[Strong Badia the Free]]'', Strong Bad briefly gains complete understanding of Homsar's language by utilizing a nearby "pylon". He is the only one who understands Homsar, however (as evidenced by a quick view of the conversation from Strong Sad's perspective, in which Homsar not only sounds normal, but Strong Bad is speaking in word salads as well), and at the end of the conversation, the pylon is destroyed, ending Strong Bad's ability to understand him. This version of Homsar has a distinctly different voice (Strong Bad describes it as "soothing"), and quite visibly understands everything that's going on around him in a very coherent manner, though he also has a tendency to talk a lot.

===Homsar and the Laws of Physics===
[[Image:Homfloat.PNG|thumb|Homsar floating in [[The Field]].]]
Another bizarre aspect of Homsar is his ability to defy the laws of physics through means that are not entirely explained. In many cases it would appear that Homsar can bend reality to his will, performing feats that other characters cannot. Various feats of science defiance include levitation (as demonstrated in [[narrator]], his [[Homsar#Character Video Transcript|character video]], [[A Folky Tale]], [[Halloween Fairstival]], [[the paper]], and [[mini-golf]]), self-duplication ([[Fall Float Parade]] and [[Happy Dethemberween]]), making a paint brush ring like a bell ([[Homestar Presents: Presents]]), possible time manipulation ([[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]), teleporting ([[for kids]]), possible metamorphosis (as seen in [[impression]], though this hypothesis is disputed), retracting his head like a turtle ([[Happy Hallow-day]]), creating the sound of a crowd ([[DNA Evidence]]) or chimes ([[Happy Dethemberween]]), and can possibly cause (or at least reflect back) the jibblies ([[Jibblies 2]]). On top of this, Homsar's yellow [[bowler hat]] can levitate and float around, as well as transmute into different shapes (e.g an engineer's cap as seen in his [[Homsar#Character Video Transcript|Character Video]]). It is possible that this hat, which levitates when Homsar speaks (including when he is upside down, as in [[cliffhangers]]), is actually being manipulated, as opposed to just flying about on its own. Homsar is, after all, a character [[Lack of Visible Arms|lacking visible arms]]. However, Homsar's solo in the music video [[One Two, One Two]] involves his hat flying farther than arms on a character his size would allow. Another theory for this is that Homsar, and quite possibly the other characters lacking arms, have limited psycho-kinetic abilities. Indeed, it appears that the laws of both science and logic do not apply to Homsar. Homsar also has pigeon-toed feet that move incredibly fast, but his movement is very slow.

In [[Strong Badia the Free]], after the "secession", Homsar lives in a place called the "Homsar Reservation." Everything in this location seems to defy the laws of physics as much as Homsar himself. Examples of this phenomenon are floating and moving rocks, ripples in the sky, and a strange rock structure with the ability to make others understand his language. Strong Bad is also seen defying the laws of physics by floating like Homsar whilst the rock structure is in full effect.

===Similarity to Homestar Runner===
In terms of general appearance, Homsar bears a striking resemblance to [[Homestar Runner]]. Although he is grossly exaggerated, pigeon-toed, and more curved, he and Homestar share [[Wikipedia:Prognathism|underbites]], clothing style (a hat and shirt), feet style, shading, and skin color. As he was originally a misspelling of "Homestar", it is logical that Homsar is somewhat of a badly-drawn Homestar. Strong Bad remarks upon this in the email [[for kids]], where he refers to Homsar as a "blue midget Homestar". Homestar himself even calls Homsar "Homestar" in [[looking old]].

===Naming of Other Characters (and Himself)===
Homsar often assigns the other characters, including himself, strange names. This could be because he has forgotten their real names, is confused, or disregards their real names. These "names" are sometimes based on the character's appearance (Strong Sad: That Rhinoceros) or a similar-sounding name (Bubs: Tubbs). Others (Strong Bad: Reggie) hardly make sense. This is assuming that he is speaking to/about these characters and that he is not just disoriented or believes he is talking to someone else. His way of naming may also be used to describe how a character looks at the time, like when he called The Cheat "chocolate cake" when The Cheat was covered in [[whatsit]]. Homsar also thinks up strange names for himself, such as "Homsar, the captain of the gravy train", "the human wedgie", "a friendly reminder", "A knock-knock joke about jogging suits", and "a song from the '60s". Homsar doesn't seem to repeat any of his made-up names, in keeping with his tendency to forget or disregard things or become confused. Homsar has also been named by others, like when Homestar called him "the secret guy" or when Strong Bad referred to him as "America's favorite blue midget Homestar".

===Walking===
Whenever Homsar walks, he makes a peculiar fluttery noise, although this sound effect is not present in [[Strong Badia the Free]]. Some other characters have also made this noise.

*[[Li'l Brudder]] (shown in an [[Easter egg]] at the end of [[crying]])
*[[Mr. Shmallow]]
*[[Nibbles]]
*[[The Thnikkaman]] ([[Bubs]]) (when he's tied up as seen in [[cliffhangers]])
*[[Strong Bad]] (when he's scurrying in [[retirement]], [[looking old]], and in [[the paper]])
*[[Strong Mad]] (from the email [[virus]])
*2 menus from "[[Flash's 10th Birthday]]".
*The frightened W in the [[Ween 08 Teaser]]

== Character Video Transcript ==
[[Image:CharacterVidHomsar.png|thumb|"Pshoooo!"]]
(Note: To view Homsar's character video, click "Eject" on [[the VCR]], then click the tape.)

''{'''Page Title:''' The Hand-Me-Down Clown!!}'' ''{'''Place:''' [[The Field]]}''

''{The background is upside-down throughout the video, with the blue sky on the bottom of the screen and the green grass at the top.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hi, Wonder Mike! I'm Homsar! The captain of the gravy train.

''{His bowler hat pops up and turns into a railroad engineer's hat.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' Climb aboard!

''{His hat returns to normal.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' I've brought my best foot flowered... Pshoooo!

''{His hat slides down the back of his head, then snaps back at the end of the sound.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' Sure beats breaking up with me. Don't look now! I'm just a friendly reminder. AaAaAaAaAaAaA! AaAaAaAaAaAaA!

''{While screaming for the second time in a row, he spins around the screen backwards two and a half times. He ends up at the top, upside down.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' Think I won the Powerball. ''{His hat pops off, then lands back on his head before the video ends.}''

== Fun Facts ==

*[[Wikipedia:Wonder Mike|Wonder Mike]] is a member of [[Wikipedia:The Sugarhill Gang|The Sugarhill Gang]], famous for the song "Rapper's Delight". In the beginning of "Rapper's Delight", Wonder Mike says "I am Wonder Mike and I'd like to say hello", so Homsar saying "Hi, Wonder Mike" could possibly be a response.
*"Think I won the Powerball" is a reference to the multistate [[Wikipedia: Powerball|Powerball Lottery]], which is known for having large jackpots.
*Homsar's character page is the only one with background music.
*Since the camera is presumably upside-down throughout his character video, Homsar starts the video upside-down and ends it right-side-up; this was more visible during [[April Fools' 2006]]. He "stands on air" again in the long toon [[A Folky Tale]] as an Easter egg.
*Homsar is the only main character with no [[Old-Timey]] counterpart.
*Homsar's coloring is similar to that of the unused character [[Rejected Characters#Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]].
*Homsar is the only male character with an animated girl variation, Modestly Hot Homsar. (see [[#Variations|below]])
*The [[font]] on Homsar's shirt is [[Fonts#B|Bauhaus93]].
*Besides [[Homestar Runner]], he was the only one not to get the [[Jibblies]] in [[Jibblies 2]]. In fact, the opposite effect occurs when the [[Horrible Painting]] gets the Jibblies instead.

== Relationships ==
:''Main article: [[Character Relationships]]''
*[[Strong Sad and Homsar's Relationship]]

== Variations ==
*[[Different Town Character Variations#Modestly Hot Homsar|Modestly Hot Homsar]]

=== [[Halloween Costumes]] ===

*[[wikipedia:J. Wellington Wimpy|Wimpy]] in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*[[IMDB:tt0165798|Ghost Dog]] in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*[[wikipedia:Slash (musician)|Slash]] in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
*Kumar (from [[IMDB:0115734|Bottle Rocket]]) in [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*[[Wikipedia:Tingle|Tingle]] from [[Wikipedia:Legend of Zelda|The Legend of Zelda]] series in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]].
*[[Wikipedia:Ed Grimley|Ed Grimley]] in [[Happy Hallow-day]].
*[http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/The_Typewriter The "Noony Noony Noo" Typewriter Guy] in [[Jibblies 2]].

==See Also==
*[[Homsar Evolution]]
*[[Homsar Other Costumes|Other Costumes]]
*[[Nicknames#Homsar|Nicknames]]
*[[Bowler Hats]]
*[[Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns]]

==Quotes of the Week==
{{qotwstart}}
*{{qotw|"Let's sing a song of Pennzoil!"|[[Fall Float Parade]]|Mirror:homsar_pennzoil.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"AAAaaaAAh'm the human wedgie!"|[[origins]]|Mirror:hom_wedgie.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"I'm the human wedgie!"|[[origins]]|Mirror:hom_wedgie.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Alms for the pudgy? Alms for the pudgy?"|[[Homestar Presents: Presents]]|Mirror:hom1_pudgy.mp3}}
|}

== External Links ==
*[[HR:vcr_homsar.html|watch Homsar's character video]]
*[[HR:vcr_homsar.swf|view the Flash file for Homsar's character video]]

{{Characters|Homsar}}

{{subtitlesLinks|vcr_homsar}}

[[Category:Homestarmy]]
[[Category:Strong Bad Email Spin-offs]]

Talk:yes, wrestling

0rion — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 08:44:05 GMT

0rion: /* Really poor "remarks" section... */

== "Real" wrestlers ==
Spiky Shoulderpads are possibly parodying the Road Warriors or the Legion of Doom.
The "Facepaint connection" directly parodies Demolition, including the Mr. Fuji-esque manager.
Jack 'em Up kid's outfit is similar to the Junkyard dog, but talks more like Hulk Hogan.
Boliver Turnbunkler may refer to William Regal.
--[[User:Slackerboy|Slackerboy]] 22:52, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
:I agree with the Road Warriors. I don't even know wrestling (like, at all), and I thought of it. (I probably remember some wrestling game review in Nintendo Power...) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:56, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
:Threw in the Road Warriors as well as specific jabs at Hulk Hogan. I don't know if the "EM UP" on the back of Homestar's tights is similar enough to "THUMP" on the back of JYD's to merit inclusion. And by the way, I've been watching wrestling for 20 years -- this email is downright hilarious. --[[User:TJDevil02|TJDevil02]]
::The out-of-breath three-words-at-a-time ranting is classic, isn't it? But anyway, I think "EM UP" to "THUMP" would get rejected hard around here, unless you can show that the location/lettering is similar. I haven't seen this, and couldn't find an image of it quickly. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:30, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, [http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/pictures/04/andre.jpg JYD's THUMP] was just written in a plain sans-serif font, and it didn't go in an arch either. And maybe it's just me, but I think the Facepaint Connection's blue/gray/black color scheme looks more like the Powers of Pain than the Demos. Mr. Fuji managed both, right? --[[User:68.214.209.69|68.214.209.69]] 07:54, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::::You're right, he did. It's worth examining more, especially since I forgot the PoP wore facepaint. They dropped it after they were split up in 1990.

== Missed an Easter egg. ==

don't miss the jack 'em up kid merch easter egg by clicking on the S behind said kid in interview {{User:TheDude/sig}} 22:13, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

<nowiki>Click on the Big S during Homestarrunner interview to see souvenirs </nowiki>

*Why are you mentioning it here? Just add it next time you see something like that. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 06:47, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== We HAVE seen his moves... some of them anyway (oh, and grammar error) ==

I don't wanna go adding anything to this article about it as I don't know the proper names, but we saw SB perform a suplex and a piledriver in sibbie... my wrestling knowledge isn't good enough to know what kind they were, so I'll leave it up to someone more in the know :) [[User:Psi|Psi]] 23:05, 27 November 2007 (UTC) Oh yeah, and I don't think"Dear awesome Strong Bad." is actually a sentence, as it does not contain a verb, despite SB's remark.
: On the "PS", of course it isn't. However, "Dear Strong Bad" '''SHOULD''' end in a comma, not a period. It's just Strong Bad mocking the writer's grammar like always. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:31, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

: Strong Bad was also taxidoimied suplexing a cougar in funeral.[[User:Xerzes|Xerzes]] 00:55, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

The moves in sibbie are a jumping piledriver and a standing suplex, I believe. The Suplex might be a snap suplex, but I can't tell.[[User:12.216.87.36|12.216.87.36]] 05:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:He also does some sort of elbow drop in [[lady...ing]]. (And some sort of helicopter-sounding Samus-esque spin attack...) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:55, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Top Rope Elbow Drop, and the spinning attack looks like a crazy variation of a front dropkick. I'm going to register later, probably.[[User:12.216.87.36|12.216.87.36]] 06:02, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:Registered, and that IS a front dropkick variation.[[User:Tommyspud|Tommyspud]] 06:12, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

== Another grammar error ==

When SB types "dinosaur tranquilizer fueled ranting and raving" (misspelling "fueled" as "feuled" on the screen), shouldn't it be hyphenated as "dinosaur-tranquilizer-fueled?" I know at least "tranquilizer-fueled" is.
:Technically, yes, you are correct. That kind of modifier should be hyphenated.[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 01:33, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
== Fo' Sizzle ==

I'm thinking it's Sizzleweight. The emblem on the belt shows bacon and a fried egg.. sizzling? Although it does sound like ''Strong Bad'' says it "Fizzle" .. but maybe that's just him mocking Homestar.. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:42, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:In this case, I just picked whatever I thought I heard, since it wasn't very distinct. I can see "sizzleweight" being right now that you mention it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:50, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::I keep hearing "thistleweight", but i guess "sizzle" makes more sense... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:51, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Jackemettes ==

I think comparing this to "Juggalo" is a bit much of a stretch. I admit this may be partially due to a strong dislike of ICP. [[User:Xerzes|Xerzes]] 00:52, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
*I have friends in a wrestling troupe who wrestle in Juggalo/Juggalette style, so I don't think it's much of a stretch. I think we should at least acknowledge the Juggalette/Jackemette similarity. [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|Taranch-V15]]
:This 'similarity' is a forced coincidence at best. I see no reason to include it. Of course, I just had my History of Tudor/Stuart England class today, so I heard Jack-emite as being extremely similar to Jacobite. I suppose that gives us a This and a That...can anyone provide an Other Thing?[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 07:13, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::Vegemite!
::It's probably too flimsy to survive STUFFing, but I also felt like the similarity to "Jacobites" was intentional, if bizarre. For the unfamiliar, it is indeed pronounced "JACK-uh-bite", not "JAY-kuh-bite". --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:29, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
*Juggalettes are related to wrestling. Jacobites are related to those who followed the belief of the illegitimacy of parliamentary interference with monarchical succession. If you're going to argue against something, at least keep it on topic. [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|Taranch-V15]]

== Poo Yeah? ==

I don't hear a "P" sound. It's more like "Hoo Yeah" or "Who Yeah" [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 00:55, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:I hear "hoo yeah" as well. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:50, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::'''hoo''', this ain't no [[Important Rap Song]] here. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:53, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, '''"Hoo, yeah!"''' Well, I like the comma in there, but I might be outnumbered. But it ain't .. the other thing .. that I can't even bring myself to type. I don't like that word. =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:::It's probably "Boo Yeah". I think that would be a portmanteau of "Boo Yah" and "Oh Yeah". {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 03:36, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

I also think that it sounds more like "Hoo Yeah". "Poo yeah", lol. Maybe if they were wrestling in a bathroom.--[[User:Ava|Ava]] 02:15, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:Gross. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:18, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:If it's Hoo Yeah, it could be considered a parody of the Miz's Hoorah.[[User:12.216.87.36|12.216.87.36]] 05:55, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

==C'mon Guys, Seriously==

It's about time we made the KOT booing off screen a running gag. Hes done it like, 8 times man! {{unsigned|68.53.87.6| 00:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)}}
:You mean [[The King of Town Booing]]? That was created a couple hours before you posted this? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Singers ==

I can hear the Thnikkaman singers, but it sounds like they're being accompanied by Crackotage. Anyone else hear this? -- [[User:TJDevil02|TJDevil02]]

:If you mean for il Cartographer and Gardenboy, then yes, I do. --[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 12:47, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

== Fear and Loathing? ==

Is it just me or do Strong Bad and Strong Mad's getups as "The Wild Vacationers" recall Raoul Duke and Dr. Gonzo from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (who are memorably Wild in their Vacationing). Shouldn't this go in Real World references? [[User:Cheesechimp|Cheesechimp]] 04:20, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:no

== In SBEmail menu but not New Stuff ==

This isn't listed in the 'New Stuff' section. I'm not sure whether it's a remark or a goof. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 10:06, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
: Yes, it is. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:08, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::hmm, so it is now. Oh well. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]]
:::It was probably just your cache. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:13, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Foreign object bros. ==

Could this possibly be a reference to the super mario bros.? I'm sure I'm wrong, but this is the first thing I thought of when I saw it.-[[User:AWMPSCE|AWMPSCE]]
:How? Just because they both use "Brothers" in their name? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:55, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::I said I was probably wrong......don't sound annoyed.-[[User:AWMPSCE|AWMPSCE]]
:::Don't be so defensive. He was asking you to clarify.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 21:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Oh.....I can't.-[[User:AWMPSCE|AWMPSCE]]
:::::I feel dumb now.......-[[User:AWMPSCE|AWMPSCE]]
::::::Actually, from my standpoint, it seems like a connection to the hammer bros.... Or maybe ECW hardcore matches, since wrestlers occasionally brought weapons down to the ring.[[User:12.216.87.36|12.216.87.36]] 05:34, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, and I even think they had a hammer. [[User:76.173.92.70|76.173.92.70]] 05:36, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Or a referance to Regal, when he hid brass knuckles in his trunks. They were usually pulled out and used to win matches.[[User:12.216.87.36|12.216.87.36]] 05:48, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I thought of the hammer bros. first thing when i saw it, but i think it's too much of a stretch to be a real reference. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:52, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Yeah, it is, but I don't think Regal or the hardcore comparisions are a stretch.[[User:Tommyspud|Tommyspud]] 14:34, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::I think that anything is a stretch here. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::But, it is a reference to all the 'brother' teams in wrestling, like team 3D, Hardyz, Briscoes, and Harlem Heat. [[User:Tommyspud|Tommyspud]] 15:24, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::::Omg, it's a reference to the Steiners. At least, the costume and name is. SB's even wearing the headgear, sans earmuffs, but SB has no ears or the mask covers them up.[[User:Tommyspud|Tommyspud]] 03:57, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

On a different note, can anyone tell what the other object Strong Bad has is? It kinda looks like a blunt to me, but it's too big and round. [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 02:15, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

:If you ask me, it looks like a huge marijuana joint. I know there's another word for that, but I don't know it. Anyway, I ran it just looking for that, and is seems to be about the right length, and wrapped in white paper... --[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 12:49, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Bad and Strong Mad's Wrestling Teams ==

I'm thinking we should make a seperate page describing the identities that Strong Bad and Strong Mad use as their wresting teams. Any thoughts? {{User:TheCoolRobot/sig}} 21:08, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Gardon Boy ==

"Garden Boy is a reference to Nature Boy". I'm not sure about this. Garden Boy could reference anything, even a Garden Freak. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 00:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:You know what that means, kids, time for a STUFF! [[User:76.173.92.70|76.173.92.70]] 00:23, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::First, Kids? Second, let's wait. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 00:25, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Wait, why are we bringing this to the talk page? It's the SENDER'S NAME! It could be Pulk Pogan and we wouldn't say it's a reference to Hulk Hogan; we don't care about senders. =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, sometimes we care if it's exceptionally notable and clear-cut to do so. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:39, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::We're not perfect at guessing TBC's references, so why start guessing the references intended by e-mail senders? O_o It could simply be the guy's usual screen name. He could be a gardener. Heck, it could just be entirely random. '''→''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 19:58, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's pronunciation ==

It sounds to me like the way Strong Sad delivers his last line is in, like, a faux french accent. Is that notable for this page? Further, it seems like he has a tendency to do this (like "chap au fan" or whatever in funeral, for example, I think there are others..) Should that be a running gag/page?mention somewhere/etc? [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 05:43, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:[[Foreign Words]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:47, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:: Hmm, maybe.. I see that his pronunciation of chaperone is indeed on there. But some things don't seem to fit, like this one where he's not actually saying a foreign word, just adding a foreign accent. Which is why I was thinkin' it might be appropriate for a page in its own right... [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 05:58, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Hmmm, yeah.... we apparently have a page on [[French]]... so between the two, bases are probably covered.. [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 06:24, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Seeing as how il is Italian for "the", he's portraying a fake Italian accent. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 17:07, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

== Under the neckline ==

I added this fact:
<blockquote>*This is the first time that Homestar's body under the neckline is shown uncensored.</blockquote>
It was [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=yes%2C_wrestling&diff=522628&oldid=522612 removed] by [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] with the summary "Is this true? Forgive me if so, but I was almost certain it was not.". Before adding the fact I first checked in [[Homestar Runner Other Costumes]] and the most bare he was was with V-neck costumes like [[:Image:HR poncho.PNG|this one]]. The Jack 'Em Up Kid is bare all over and I think this is worth mentioning. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:08, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:I was sure of it also, and was gonna revert straight away but decided not to since maybe there's something that i missed, however, seeing this post here, i have since reverted it, that fact is back on the page. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:53, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::Thank you. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:04, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::So, I think the one I'm thinking of is the deleted scene from Yellow Dello. He's definitely naked below the neck and there's no pixelation, but it's from the back, so I dunno if that's different. [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 15:37, 29 November 2007 (UTC) Edit to clarify: So is it different enough that I shouldn't take it out again? [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 02:03, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I think this is a valid fact. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 04:33, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

==Cinnamon Dots==

I count seventeen cinnamon dots on Homestar. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 23:18, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

== The Jack'em up Kid ==

Might the Jack'em up kid be a spin on the 1-2-3 Kid, Sean Waltman (Syxx, X-Pac, and Syxx-Pac) back in classic WWF? the name and the full body singlet are a dead give away. [http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/x/xpac/09.jpg www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/x/xpac/09.jpg]

== Singers ==

''The singers for Strong Sad's entrance music are the same singers for the Thnikkaman's theme song.'' That fact seems a bit dubious to me. How do we know that they're the same? They don't sound exactly the same to me (plus there's the male sounding name). Anyway, my point is I don't see any way to confirm/verify this "fact". [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 02:03, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:I agree with Dagron. [[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 17:32, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

== Francais ==

Should we say something about what "il-est" means in French? ("It/he is") Seems like something that would go in one of the categories. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 04:32, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:I think it was a play on "il Cartographer" and "illest"... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:34, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

==Larry The Legend==
Thought I'd post my explanation here and let you duke it out if it's legit or not. I had an entry that was deleted, guessing that "Gary the Legend" is a reference to Larry Zbyszko, aka "The Living Legend." Now, while the deleter said that the "legend" thing was tenuous at best (which I'd sort of agree with if that was a problem), I mainly made the association because of the rhyming aspect. Such as "Gary the Legend" and "Larry the Legend" (as Zbyszko is sometimes called). Is this too much of a stretch? (Also, I guess to add to this train of thought, when "Legend" is mentioned in pro wrestling, many times it refers to Larry Zbyszko. If I recall correctly, he once filed a lawsuit against Randy Orton for calling himself "The Legend Killer" ... "Legend" being the part of the nickname that he felt was trademarked.) --- El Santo
:I don't know much about wrestling history but that seems to be a pretty convincing case. I don't see a reason to exclude it. ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 03:52, 1 December 2007 (UTC))

The original fact read:

* Gary the Legend is a reference to wrestler and commentator [[Wikipedia: Larry Zbyszko|Larry "The Living Legend" Zbyszko]].

I'm the one who removed it, and I did so because, as written, there's no actual connection made beyond the word "Legend", and I assumed it was merely grasping at straws. I have no knowledge of wrestling whatsoever, so this clears things up for me. -{{User:YK/sig}} 00:04, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

==Il Cartographer's hat==
I don't know what to call it, but that's definitely not a beret. [[User:Wear a Bikini|Wear a Bikini]] 04:02, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

== He's lower? ==

In the trivia section it says "Homestar's voice seems to be slightly lower." But I don't hear this. It sounds completely normal to me. I went back and watched [[Business Trip]] just to be sure and they sound the same to me. Anyone else agree? {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 16:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

*I agree, and even if it were true, it's a pointless thing to say. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 08:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

== "I'm done take me off the air"? ==

*It sounds like "I'm- don't take me off the air" to me. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 16:32, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
::No, it is "I'm done take me off the air"--{{User:AWMPSCE/sig}} 21:55, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

== Really poor "remarks" section... ==

Do we really need remarks for Homestar's voice being lower (because he's speaking like a professional wrestler) and a group of people using the word "I" (because that's the way the words of the song go)? Both of these seem really reaching to me. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 07:19, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

(Edit: I went ahead and deleted them. If that becomes an issue, we'll discuss it further. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 08:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC) )

yes, wrestling

0rion — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 08:35:56 GMT

0rion: /* Remarks */ The first is VERY debatable, and even if it were true, it could be his "pro wrestler" voice. As for the second, they're singing lyrics to a song writtin in the first person.

{{sbenav|183}}
[[Image:yes, wrestling.png|thumb|"Never before had two chairs and a potted plant so transformed the wrestling ring!"]]
Strong Bad demonstrates various costumes and gimmicks from his wrestling career.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|The Announcer}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, Gary the Legend

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Gymnasium]], [[The Field]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Tuesday, November 27, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 4:41

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Emailin' from the left and to the right, emailin' on a Tuuuuesday night!

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: none</div>
Dear awesome Strong Bad. 
Could you please show us some of your awesome wrestling 
moves. 
Gardenboy 
Bfn SA 
</blockquote>

''{After "Strong Bad", Strong Bad says "Period. That's the best sentence ever written!" He reads the location as "Best friends never, South Africa".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well Gardenboy, as a crafty ring veteran, I can let you in on a little secret: being an awesome wrestler has nothing to do with awesome wrestling moves! ''{clears screen}'' It's all about awesome costumes, gimmicks, and dinosaur tranquilizer fueled ranting and raving! I got my first big break with cable access's longest named wrestling organization: All World Mid-Pro Shirtless Championship Entertainment, or AWMPSCE. ''{pronounces "OMP-skee"}'' Of course, they wanted me to be one of those lame masked wrestlers at first, but I had gimmickier plans.

''{Cut to a photograph of Strong Bad wearing a crown and a wrestling suit that has a crown printed on it. The picture is labeled "Sir Boliver Turnbuckle".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Sir Boliver Turnbuckle and his signature move:

''{Another picture appears with Strong Bad in his Turnbuckle outfit standing behind Strong Sad, with Strong Bad's arm grabbing Strong Sad below his own arm. The picture is labeled "Master of the 1/8th Nelson!"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' The one-eighth nelson!

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' That was back in the days when pretending to be a pompous Brit was considered a ''premium'' gimmick. Once I started getting more popular, my next incarnation was

''{Cut to the Gymatorium's doors. A piece of paper with an AWMPSCE logo is taped on sideways.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover}'' And hailing from the age of exploration, the namer of nations,

''{The doors swing open. Strong Bad is posing behind them. He is wearing an orange beret, a frilly white shirt, and a brown vest. The words "il Cartographer" appear at the bottom of the screen.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' il Cartographer!

''{Strong Bad poses as though he's expecting applause, but all that can be heard are some singers and the King of Town.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{from offscreen}'' Booooooo!

'''SINGERS:''' il Cartographer! He makin' the maps! il Cartographer! He takin' no crap!

''{Strong Bad steps forward and throws pieces of paper at the empty seats.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And one of my gimmicks was that I'd always come into the ring throwing—

''{One of Strong Bad's papers stops in front of the camera. It is a map of the Gymatorium and shows the way from one of the seats ("here be you") to "the can", as the toilet is labeled. The map is labeled "Ye Olde Restroom Trail".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' maps to the restrooms into the crowd!

''{Cut to the ring; Strong Bad is holding a flag.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I claim-a this saggy ring in the name of il Cartographer!

''{He taps the flag and it unfurls itself and flaps in imaginary wind, showing an image of Strong Bad's beret with "the il-est" written below it.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{from offscreen}'' Booooo!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' That was back when my big feud with Homestar Runner was in full swing!

''{Cut to a closeup of Homestar Runner's torso. He is wearing red pants that read "'EM UP!" in bold white lettering and has cinnamon on his chest. The screen slowly pans back.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{from offscreen}'' Ladies and gentlemen! Joining me backstage in historic empty high school gymnasium—

''{The Announcer can now be seen standing next to Homestar, who is facing away from the camera.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' is a man that needs no introduction. Introducing: The Jack 'Em Up Kid!

''{The words "The Jack 'Em Up Kid" appear at the bottom of the screen. Homestar turns toward the camera. His chest has what appears to be cinnamon "stubble" on it, and his hat has no propeller.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, you know, announcer man, that's right! Hoo, yeah! Jack 'Em Up Kid, empty high school gymnasium, ''{holds up a belt with bacon and eggs carved into the buckle}'' sizzleweight belt on the line! Hoo, yeah! That's right! That's correct! That's precisely what I'm talking about! I got the drive, I got the commotion! I can't believe it! Hoo, yeah! el Photographer, whatchoo gonna did? ''{raises his pants on each word}'' When you get jacked up? ''{snaps the elastic band, which muffles his speech}'' By the Jack 'Em Up Kid!

'''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' And that feud carried over into my tag team phase with Strong Mad. Naturally, there were several misfires before we found our groove.

''{Cut to Strong Bad and Strong Mad dressed like tourists. Strong Mad is wearing a purple Hawaiian shirt, while Strong Bad wears a pair of sunglasses and has sunscreen smeared over his nonexistent nose. Both wear fishing hats and cameras.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Nothing can stop the Wild Vacationers!

''{"The Wild Vacationers" appears at the bottom of the screen. With a blip, the scene cuts to Strong Bad and Strong Mad in black spandex outfits. Strong Bad is wearing a headband with a big knife tucked into it, and his pants have a wooden board, a wrench, and one other unidentifiable object in them. Strong Mad has a razor blade lodged in his bleeding and apparently scarred forehead, a hammer tucked into his singlet, and the outline of a gun fully inside his singlet. A chainsaw blade can be seen behind him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You betta not mess with the Foreign Object Brothers!

''{"The Foreign Object Bros." appears at the bottom of the screen. With a blip, the scene cuts to Strong Bad and Strong Mad wearing spiky shoulder pads. Strong Mad's singlet is red and has "RAX" written on it. Strong Bad wears a green mohawk.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Rax and Arby: The Sanctum of Spiky Shoulder Pads.

''{"The Sanctum of Spiky Shoulder Pads" appears at the bottom of the screen. With a blip, it cuts to the Announcer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' But we finally settled on...

''{The screen pans over to Strong Bad and Strong Mad with heavy facepaint. Strong Mad's singlet reads "FACEPAINT CONNECTION".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Facepaint Connection! Jack 'Em Up Kid, Gary the Legend, when we step into the ring with the insidious Mr. Cheatayama,

''{Pans over to show The Cheat with a bowler derby and facepaint that resembles a mustache and goatee. He is holding an egg beater. It pans back after a moment.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You better hope for your guts and your mercy ''{looks confused for a moment}'' can save you at this Sunday's PayPerViewver Series.

''{"PayPerViewver Series - Sunday 9PM" appears at the bottom of the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I didn't climb the mountains and breathe the facepainted fumes just to let you two walk away with the title I'm done take me off the air! ''{frantically}'' TAKE ME OFF THE AIR!!!

''{Static cuts to Homestar, still in his Jack 'Em Up Kid outfit, holding a microphone.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hoo, yeah! That's right! Facepaint Connection! You can't resist the power of all the screamin' Jack 'Emites and Jack 'Emettes out there when I pin you to the ground for a count of three which is a legal way to win a match in this wrestling federation the last time I checked. Gary the Legend, take it away!

''{He holds the microphone out to his partner. The screen cuts back, revealing that there is nobody there.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention that Gary the Legend was Homestar's ''imaginary'' tag team partner.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{to "Gary"}'' You tell 'em! You tell 'em, Gary! Hoo, yeah!

''{Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Eventually I began wrestling as my own dang self and finally achieved what every wrestler strives for: my own in-ring interview segment! Never before had two chairs and a potted plant so transformed the wrestling ring!

''{Cut to the Gymatorium.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{from offscreen}'' It's time for another installment of—

''{The words "Strong Bad's Folding Chair DUNGEON" appear onscreen. The word "DUNGEON" drips blood.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{from offscreen}'' Strong Bad's Folding Chair Dungeon!

''{Cut to the ring, where Strong Bad can be seen with a microphone. Behind him is a table with a potted plant and a skull on it, with two folding chairs next to it. A red rug sits underneath it all.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Welcome back to the darkest dankest regions of my dungeon! My prisoner this week is the current fizzleweight belt holder: The Jack 'Em Up Kid!

''{Homestar, still in costume, jumps into the ring.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hoo, yeah! Hoo, yeah!

''{Strong Bad hits him with one of the folding chairs, knocking him out. Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So you see Gardenboy, you should stop trying to perfect the Summer Squash Suplex and instead get yourself a rake, a straw hat, maybe a watering can and start screaming about how your opponents are gophers!

''{Cut to the Gymatorium's doors. Singing can be heard in the background. The doors open to reveal Strong Sad with a hat, rake, and watering can.}''

'''SINGERS:''' Gardenboy! He's plantin' the seeds! Gardenboy! He's pullin' out the weeds! Gardenboy! He's gonna bring ya to your knees! He's the il Cartographer, I mean, Gardenboy!

'''STRONG SAD:''' All right, all you gophers out there, ha-bring-it-on!

''{He holds up the watering can, which spouts two flames. [[New Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Jack 'Em T-shirts.png|thumb|What you gone did when you get jacked up?]]
*While Homestar is taunting The Facepaint Connection, click on the "S" in the [[AWMPSCE]] logo to see [[T-shirts]], a bumper sticker, and a foam thumb promoting the Jack 'Em Up Kid.
*At the end, click on Strong Sad's hat to see the Announcer interviewing Strong Mad:
*:'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' And Rax, anything you'd care to add?
*:'''STRONG MAD:''' BEEF AND CHEDDAR! FIVE FOR FIVE!
*At the end, click on Strong Sad's watering can to see a scene with Homestar and the Brothers Strong in the [[Halloween|Field at night]] as il Cartographer, a Facepaint Connection member, Gardenboy, and The Jack 'Em Up Kid.
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Strong Bad. I really like your Rudy from ''Fat Albert'' costume.

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*"Bfn" stands for "[[Wikipedia:Bloemfontein|Bloemfontein]]", one of South Africa's three capital cities.
**Strong Bad reads it as "best friends never," which is a play off of the acronym "BFF," meaning "Best friends forever."
*The "1/8 nelson" is not a wrestling hold, but the half-nelson and three-quarter [[wikipedia:Nelson hold|nelson]] are amateur wrestling holds designed to get a quick pinfall, and the full nelson (which is illegal in NCAA wrestling) is a famous submission hold in the professional ranks.
* Strong Bad hitting Homestar Runner with a steel chair refers to the common practice of faking the use of weapons, particularly folding chairs, in professional wrestling.
*A [[Wikipedia:cartographer|cartographer]] is a mapmaker.

===Trivia===
*This sbemail was released Tuesday night instead of the usual Monday morning, as Strong Bad points out in his opening song.
*This is the first time that Homestar's body under the neckline is shown uncensored.
*Homestar's hat doesn't have its propeller.

===Remarks===
*"Gymatorium" is a [[portmanteau]] of gymnasium and auditorium.
*The All World Mid-Pro Shirtless Championship Entertainment has a lot of shirt-wearing wrestlers. il Cartographer, in particular, is not only wearing a frilly shirt but a fine leather vest.

===Goofs===
*il Cartographer's hat does not move in sync with his head.
*When Strong Bad puts up his "il-est" flag, the floor reads "AWMPSE" instead of "AWMPSCE."
*The "e" in the second "before" is slightly cut off on the right side.

===Fixed Goofs===
*Initially, when Strong Bad says "dinosaur tranquilizer fueled ranting and raving", "fueled" was misspelled on the computer screen as "feuled". This was fixed the next day.

===Inside References===
*The subject of this email is [[professional wrestling]].
*Homestar Runner, as The Jack 'Em Up Kid, has a wrestling belt with an image of [[bacon]] and [[eggs]].
*Homestar is wearing what could be described as a form of [[long pants]].
*Strong Bad, as il Cartographer, wears an orange [[beret]].
*The Easter egg for clicking on the watering can is a reference to the ending of most [[Halloween]] cartoons, including the [[What are you supposed to be?|inability to recognize Strong Bad's costume]].
*The Cheat, as the Insidious Mr. Cheatayama, wears a black [[bowler hat]].
*As a Foreign Object Brother, Strong Mad has a razor stuck in his forehead, which is causing him to [[blood|bleed]]. Also, in "Strong Bad's Folding Chair DUNGEON", the word "DUNGEON" is dripping with blood.
*At the end of the email, Strong Sad's watering can inexplicably spurts [[fire]].
*The singers for Strong Sad's entrance music are the same singers for the [[Thnikkaman]]'s theme song. A voice similar to [[Crackotage]]'s can be heard among the singers.
*The scoreboard shows an [[Scoreboard#Irregular Scores|irregular score]] of "?" for the Home team, and viewing the Flash file reveals the other score to be "$", both seen in [[the paper]].
*Homestar has [[cinnamon]] on his chest.
*The King of Town is heard [[The King of Town Booing|booing]].
*Strong Bad's wrestling Homestar, as well as Strong Mad being his tag team partner, are both allusions to [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]].
*As one of the Foreign Objects Brothers, Strong Bad has a [[big knife]] tucked in his [[headband]].

===Real-World References===
*Strong Bad and Strong Mad as Arby and Rax refers to restaurants [[Wikipedia:Arby's|Arby's]] and [[Wikipedia:Rax (restaurant)|Rax]], both of which specialize in roast beef sandwiches.
**A "Beef 'n Cheddar" is a sandwich available at Arby's restaurants. The sandwiches are periodically sold "Five for $5."
*[[Wikipedia:Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids|Fat Albert and Rudy]] were 1970s cartoon characters created and hosted by [[Bill Cosby]], based on his stand-up comedy routine.
*The Cheat's character is based on famous wrestling manager "[[Wikipedia:Harry Fujiwara|Mr. Fuji]]".
*Strong Bad's interview segment is based on many wrestlers having interviews segments (most famously [[Wikipedia:Roddy Piper|Roddy Piper]]'s [[Wikipedia:Piper's Pit|Piper's Pit]]") mid-show.
*"Pay-per-viewver Series" refers to [[Wikipedia:Survivor Series|Survivor Series]], a [[Wikipedia:World Wrestling Entertainment|WWE]] pay-per-view event.
*The Sanctum of Spiky Shoulder Pads is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Road Warriors|Road Warriors]] tag team (aka the Legion of Doom), who became famous for their shoulder pads covered in spikes.
*As a member of The Foreign Object Brothers, Strong Mad has a sledgehammer hidden in his tights. This is a refernce to Triple H who uses such a hammer as a trademark foreign object.
*The Wild Vacationers is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Wild Samoans|Wild Samoans]] tag team who were managed by [[Wikipedia:Lou Albano|Captain Lou Albano]]. Albano would often wear a Hawaiian shirt to the ring, much like the Vacationers.
*The Facepaint Connection is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Blade Runners|Blade Runners]], a tag team in Bill Watts' old [[Wikipedia:Universal Wrestling Federation (Bill Watts)|UWF]]. Both of its members would become icons, Sting and the Ultimate Warrior.
*Homestar's quote, "Whatchoo gonna did, when you get jacked up by the Jack 'Em Up Kid?" is a twist of [[Wikipedia:Hulk Hogan|Hulk Hogan]]'s famous interview-ending catchphrase, "Whatcha gonna do when Hulkamania runs wild on you?!" In addition, beginning "Well you know, announcer man..." is similar to Hogan's famous interview opening, "Well ya know something, Mean Gene...", addressed to long-time wrestling personality [[Wikipedia:Gene Okerlund|"Mean" Gene Okerlund]]. Homestar also talks about his Jackemites, similar to the Hogan's hulkamaniacs.
*Homestar's frequent use of the phrase "Hoo yeah!" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Randy Savage|Macho Man Randy Savage]], whose famous catchphrase was "Oooh yeah!"
*The razor blade lodged in Strong Mad's forehead as part of his costume as a Foreign Objects Brother references [[Wikipedia:Blading (professional wrestling)|blading]], the method that professional wrestlers use to make themselves bleed mid-match. Blading involves using a razor blade like Strong Mad's to surreptitiously cut oneself mid-match so that nobody notices that the cut is self-inflicted. Many older wrestlers have noticeable scar tissue on their forehead (much like Strong Mad does in the clip) from blading hundreds of times in their careers.
*Strong Bad saying, "TAKE ME OFF THE AIR!!!" is a reference to a [[Wikipedia:Paul Heyman|Paul Heyman]] shoot promo from an episode of ''[[Wikipedia:ECW on TNN|ECW on TNN]]'' in 2000.
*Homestar's theme song as a wrestler is a slowed-down version of the main theme from [[Wikipedia:Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!|Punch-Out!!]] for the [[Nintendo|Nintendo Entertainment System]].
*"Dinosaur tranquilizer fueled ranting and raving" is a reference to an event that happened on the television show ''[[Wikipedia:WWE Friday Night SmackDown!|SmackDown!]]'' in February 2005, when then-champion [[Wikipedia:John Layfield|John Bradshaw Layfield]] was shot with a [[Wikipedia:Tranquilizer dart|tranquilizer dart]] and went into a rant with an inflatable dinosaur in front of a Tokyo crowd.
* Homestar's "'Em Up" phrase on his shirt is somewhat similar to the catchphrase "Man Up", used by the [[Wikipedia:Briscoe Brothers|Briscoe Brothers]]
* Strong Bad's interview talking about The Jack 'Em Up Kid is a twist on an [[Wikipedia:Ultimate Warrior|Ultimate Warrior]] interview, which were, more often than not, nonsensical.
* Strong Bad's comment of "That was back in the days when pretending to be a pompous Brit was considered a premium gimmick" relates to wrestlers such as the "Lord" Steven Regal ([[Wikipedia:Darren Matthews|William Regal]]), [[Wikipedia:Dave Taylor (wrestler)|"Squire" Dave Taylor]] and [[Wikipedia:Bobby Eaton|"Earl" Bobby Eaton]] ([[Wikipedia:The Blue Bloods|The Blue Bloods]]), as well as a reference to other wrestlers who falsify their claim to British royalty.
* The "Entertainment" in AWMPSCE is a reference to WWE, World Wrestling Entertainment, who changed their name in 2002 from the World Wrestling Federation, or WWF, in response to a cease-and-desist order from the [[Wikipedia:World Wide Fund For Nature|World Wide Fund For Nature]], formerly the World Wildlife Fund, who used the same initials.
* Gary the Legend is a reference to wrestler and commentator "Larry The Legend," also known as [[Wikipedia: Larry Zbyszko|Larry "The Living Legend" Zbyszko]].

===Fast Forward===
*A "fanimaton" was posted on the [[Weekly Fanstuff 2007#WF-2007-11-29|Weekly Fanstuff]] on November 29th, 2007, featuring [[Reynold]] as Gardenboy.

==External Links==
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{{Strong Bad Email}}

Talk:yes, wrestling

0rion — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 08:29:38 GMT

0rion: /* He's lower? */

Talk:yes, wrestling

0rion — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 07:19:23 GMT

0rion: /* Really poor "remarks" section... */

== "Real" wrestlers ==
Spiky Shoulderpads are possibly parodying the Road Warriors or the Legion of Doom.
The "Facepaint connection" directly parodies Demolition, including the Mr. Fuji-esque manager.
Jack 'em Up kid's outfit is similar to the Junkyard dog, but talks more like Hulk Hogan.
Boliver Turnbunkler may refer to William Regal.
--[[User:Slackerboy|Slackerboy]] 22:52, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
:I agree with the Road Warriors. I don't even know wrestling (like, at all), and I thought of it. (I probably remember some wrestling game review in Nintendo Power...) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:56, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
:Threw in the Road Warriors as well as specific jabs at Hulk Hogan. I don't know if the "EM UP" on the back of Homestar's tights is similar enough to "THUMP" on the back of JYD's to merit inclusion. And by the way, I've been watching wrestling for 20 years -- this email is downright hilarious. --[[User:TJDevil02|TJDevil02]]
::The out-of-breath three-words-at-a-time ranting is classic, isn't it? But anyway, I think "EM UP" to "THUMP" would get rejected hard around here, unless you can show that the location/lettering is similar. I haven't seen this, and couldn't find an image of it quickly. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:30, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, [http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/pictures/04/andre.jpg JYD's THUMP] was just written in a plain sans-serif font, and it didn't go in an arch either. And maybe it's just me, but I think the Facepaint Connection's blue/gray/black color scheme looks more like the Powers of Pain than the Demos. Mr. Fuji managed both, right? --[[User:68.214.209.69|68.214.209.69]] 07:54, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::::You're right, he did. It's worth examining more, especially since I forgot the PoP wore facepaint. They dropped it after they were split up in 1990.

== Missed an Easter egg. ==

don't miss the jack 'em up kid merch easter egg by clicking on the S behind said kid in interview {{User:TheDude/sig}} 22:13, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

<nowiki>Click on the Big S during Homestarrunner interview to see souvenirs </nowiki>

*Why are you mentioning it here? Just add it next time you see something like that. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 06:47, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== We HAVE seen his moves... some of them anyway (oh, and grammar error) ==

I don't wanna go adding anything to this article about it as I don't know the proper names, but we saw SB perform a suplex and a piledriver in sibbie... my wrestling knowledge isn't good enough to know what kind they were, so I'll leave it up to someone more in the know :) [[User:Psi|Psi]] 23:05, 27 November 2007 (UTC) Oh yeah, and I don't think"Dear awesome Strong Bad." is actually a sentence, as it does not contain a verb, despite SB's remark.
: On the "PS", of course it isn't. However, "Dear Strong Bad" '''SHOULD''' end in a comma, not a period. It's just Strong Bad mocking the writer's grammar like always. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:31, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

: Strong Bad was also taxidoimied suplexing a cougar in funeral.[[User:Xerzes|Xerzes]] 00:55, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

The moves in sibbie are a jumping piledriver and a standing suplex, I believe. The Suplex might be a snap suplex, but I can't tell.[[User:12.216.87.36|12.216.87.36]] 05:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:He also does some sort of elbow drop in [[lady...ing]]. (And some sort of helicopter-sounding Samus-esque spin attack...) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:55, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Top Rope Elbow Drop, and the spinning attack looks like a crazy variation of a front dropkick. I'm going to register later, probably.[[User:12.216.87.36|12.216.87.36]] 06:02, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:Registered, and that IS a front dropkick variation.[[User:Tommyspud|Tommyspud]] 06:12, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

== Another grammar error ==

When SB types "dinosaur tranquilizer fueled ranting and raving" (misspelling "fueled" as "feuled" on the screen), shouldn't it be hyphenated as "dinosaur-tranquilizer-fueled?" I know at least "tranquilizer-fueled" is.
:Technically, yes, you are correct. That kind of modifier should be hyphenated.[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 01:33, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
== Fo' Sizzle ==

I'm thinking it's Sizzleweight. The emblem on the belt shows bacon and a fried egg.. sizzling? Although it does sound like ''Strong Bad'' says it "Fizzle" .. but maybe that's just him mocking Homestar.. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:42, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:In this case, I just picked whatever I thought I heard, since it wasn't very distinct. I can see "sizzleweight" being right now that you mention it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:50, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::I keep hearing "thistleweight", but i guess "sizzle" makes more sense... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:51, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Jackemettes ==

I think comparing this to "Juggalo" is a bit much of a stretch. I admit this may be partially due to a strong dislike of ICP. [[User:Xerzes|Xerzes]] 00:52, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
*I have friends in a wrestling troupe who wrestle in Juggalo/Juggalette style, so I don't think it's much of a stretch. I think we should at least acknowledge the Juggalette/Jackemette similarity. [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|Taranch-V15]]
:This 'similarity' is a forced coincidence at best. I see no reason to include it. Of course, I just had my History of Tudor/Stuart England class today, so I heard Jack-emite as being extremely similar to Jacobite. I suppose that gives us a This and a That...can anyone provide an Other Thing?[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 07:13, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::Vegemite!
::It's probably too flimsy to survive STUFFing, but I also felt like the similarity to "Jacobites" was intentional, if bizarre. For the unfamiliar, it is indeed pronounced "JACK-uh-bite", not "JAY-kuh-bite". --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:29, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
*Juggalettes are related to wrestling. Jacobites are related to those who followed the belief of the illegitimacy of parliamentary interference with monarchical succession. If you're going to argue against something, at least keep it on topic. [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|Taranch-V15]]

== Poo Yeah? ==

I don't hear a "P" sound. It's more like "Hoo Yeah" or "Who Yeah" [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 00:55, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:I hear "hoo yeah" as well. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:50, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::'''hoo''', this ain't no [[Important Rap Song]] here. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:53, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, '''"Hoo, yeah!"''' Well, I like the comma in there, but I might be outnumbered. But it ain't .. the other thing .. that I can't even bring myself to type. I don't like that word. =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:::It's probably "Boo Yeah". I think that would be a portmanteau of "Boo Yah" and "Oh Yeah". {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 03:36, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

I also think that it sounds more like "Hoo Yeah". "Poo yeah", lol. Maybe if they were wrestling in a bathroom.--[[User:Ava|Ava]] 02:15, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:Gross. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:18, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:If it's Hoo Yeah, it could be considered a parody of the Miz's Hoorah.[[User:12.216.87.36|12.216.87.36]] 05:55, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

==C'mon Guys, Seriously==

It's about time we made the KOT booing off screen a running gag. Hes done it like, 8 times man! {{unsigned|68.53.87.6| 00:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)}}
:You mean [[The King of Town Booing]]? That was created a couple hours before you posted this? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Singers ==

I can hear the Thnikkaman singers, but it sounds like they're being accompanied by Crackotage. Anyone else hear this? -- [[User:TJDevil02|TJDevil02]]

:If you mean for il Cartographer and Gardenboy, then yes, I do. --[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 12:47, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

== Fear and Loathing? ==

Is it just me or do Strong Bad and Strong Mad's getups as "The Wild Vacationers" recall Raoul Duke and Dr. Gonzo from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (who are memorably Wild in their Vacationing). Shouldn't this go in Real World references? [[User:Cheesechimp|Cheesechimp]] 04:20, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:no

== In SBEmail menu but not New Stuff ==

This isn't listed in the 'New Stuff' section. I'm not sure whether it's a remark or a goof. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 10:06, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
: Yes, it is. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:08, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::hmm, so it is now. Oh well. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]]
:::It was probably just your cache. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:13, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Foreign object bros. ==

Could this possibly be a reference to the super mario bros.? I'm sure I'm wrong, but this is the first thing I thought of when I saw it.-[[User:AWMPSCE|AWMPSCE]]
:How? Just because they both use "Brothers" in their name? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:55, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::I said I was probably wrong......don't sound annoyed.-[[User:AWMPSCE|AWMPSCE]]
:::Don't be so defensive. He was asking you to clarify.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 21:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Oh.....I can't.-[[User:AWMPSCE|AWMPSCE]]
:::::I feel dumb now.......-[[User:AWMPSCE|AWMPSCE]]
::::::Actually, from my standpoint, it seems like a connection to the hammer bros.... Or maybe ECW hardcore matches, since wrestlers occasionally brought weapons down to the ring.[[User:12.216.87.36|12.216.87.36]] 05:34, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, and I even think they had a hammer. [[User:76.173.92.70|76.173.92.70]] 05:36, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Or a referance to Regal, when he hid brass knuckles in his trunks. They were usually pulled out and used to win matches.[[User:12.216.87.36|12.216.87.36]] 05:48, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I thought of the hammer bros. first thing when i saw it, but i think it's too much of a stretch to be a real reference. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:52, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Yeah, it is, but I don't think Regal or the hardcore comparisions are a stretch.[[User:Tommyspud|Tommyspud]] 14:34, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::I think that anything is a stretch here. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::But, it is a reference to all the 'brother' teams in wrestling, like team 3D, Hardyz, Briscoes, and Harlem Heat. [[User:Tommyspud|Tommyspud]] 15:24, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::::Omg, it's a reference to the Steiners. At least, the costume and name is. SB's even wearing the headgear, sans earmuffs, but SB has no ears or the mask covers them up.[[User:Tommyspud|Tommyspud]] 03:57, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

On a different note, can anyone tell what the other object Strong Bad has is? It kinda looks like a blunt to me, but it's too big and round. [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 02:15, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

:If you ask me, it looks like a huge marijuana joint. I know there's another word for that, but I don't know it. Anyway, I ran it just looking for that, and is seems to be about the right length, and wrapped in white paper... --[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 12:49, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Bad and Strong Mad's Wrestling Teams ==

I'm thinking we should make a seperate page describing the identities that Strong Bad and Strong Mad use as their wresting teams. Any thoughts? {{User:TheCoolRobot/sig}} 21:08, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Gardon Boy ==

"Garden Boy is a reference to Nature Boy". I'm not sure about this. Garden Boy could reference anything, even a Garden Freak. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 00:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:You know what that means, kids, time for a STUFF! [[User:76.173.92.70|76.173.92.70]] 00:23, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::First, Kids? Second, let's wait. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 00:25, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Wait, why are we bringing this to the talk page? It's the SENDER'S NAME! It could be Pulk Pogan and we wouldn't say it's a reference to Hulk Hogan; we don't care about senders. =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, sometimes we care if it's exceptionally notable and clear-cut to do so. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:39, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::We're not perfect at guessing TBC's references, so why start guessing the references intended by e-mail senders? O_o It could simply be the guy's usual screen name. He could be a gardener. Heck, it could just be entirely random. '''→''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 19:58, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's pronunciation ==

It sounds to me like the way Strong Sad delivers his last line is in, like, a faux french accent. Is that notable for this page? Further, it seems like he has a tendency to do this (like "chap au fan" or whatever in funeral, for example, I think there are others..) Should that be a running gag/page?mention somewhere/etc? [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 05:43, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:[[Foreign Words]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:47, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:: Hmm, maybe.. I see that his pronunciation of chaperone is indeed on there. But some things don't seem to fit, like this one where he's not actually saying a foreign word, just adding a foreign accent. Which is why I was thinkin' it might be appropriate for a page in its own right... [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 05:58, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Hmmm, yeah.... we apparently have a page on [[French]]... so between the two, bases are probably covered.. [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 06:24, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Seeing as how il is Italian for "the", he's portraying a fake Italian accent. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 17:07, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

== Under the neckline ==

I added this fact:
<blockquote>*This is the first time that Homestar's body under the neckline is shown uncensored.</blockquote>
It was [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=yes%2C_wrestling&diff=522628&oldid=522612 removed] by [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] with the summary "Is this true? Forgive me if so, but I was almost certain it was not.". Before adding the fact I first checked in [[Homestar Runner Other Costumes]] and the most bare he was was with V-neck costumes like [[:Image:HR poncho.PNG|this one]]. The Jack 'Em Up Kid is bare all over and I think this is worth mentioning. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:08, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:I was sure of it also, and was gonna revert straight away but decided not to since maybe there's something that i missed, however, seeing this post here, i have since reverted it, that fact is back on the page. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:53, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::Thank you. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:04, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::So, I think the one I'm thinking of is the deleted scene from Yellow Dello. He's definitely naked below the neck and there's no pixelation, but it's from the back, so I dunno if that's different. [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 15:37, 29 November 2007 (UTC) Edit to clarify: So is it different enough that I shouldn't take it out again? [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 02:03, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I think this is a valid fact. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 04:33, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

==Cinnamon Dots==

I count seventeen cinnamon dots on Homestar. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 23:18, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

== The Jack'em up Kid ==

Might the Jack'em up kid be a spin on the 1-2-3 Kid, Sean Waltman (Syxx, X-Pac, and Syxx-Pac) back in classic WWF? the name and the full body singlet are a dead give away. [http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/x/xpac/09.jpg www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/x/xpac/09.jpg]

== Singers ==

''The singers for Strong Sad's entrance music are the same singers for the Thnikkaman's theme song.'' That fact seems a bit dubious to me. How do we know that they're the same? They don't sound exactly the same to me (plus there's the male sounding name). Anyway, my point is I don't see any way to confirm/verify this "fact". [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 02:03, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:I agree with Dagron. [[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 17:32, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

== Francais ==

Should we say something about what "il-est" means in French? ("It/he is") Seems like something that would go in one of the categories. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 04:32, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:I think it was a play on "il Cartographer" and "illest"... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:34, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

==Larry The Legend==
Thought I'd post my explanation here and let you duke it out if it's legit or not. I had an entry that was deleted, guessing that "Gary the Legend" is a reference to Larry Zbyszko, aka "The Living Legend." Now, while the deleter said that the "legend" thing was tenuous at best (which I'd sort of agree with if that was a problem), I mainly made the association because of the rhyming aspect. Such as "Gary the Legend" and "Larry the Legend" (as Zbyszko is sometimes called). Is this too much of a stretch? (Also, I guess to add to this train of thought, when "Legend" is mentioned in pro wrestling, many times it refers to Larry Zbyszko. If I recall correctly, he once filed a lawsuit against Randy Orton for calling himself "The Legend Killer" ... "Legend" being the part of the nickname that he felt was trademarked.) --- El Santo
:I don't know much about wrestling history but that seems to be a pretty convincing case. I don't see a reason to exclude it. ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 03:52, 1 December 2007 (UTC))

The original fact read:

* Gary the Legend is a reference to wrestler and commentator [[Wikipedia: Larry Zbyszko|Larry "The Living Legend" Zbyszko]].

I'm the one who removed it, and I did so because, as written, there's no actual connection made beyond the word "Legend", and I assumed it was merely grasping at straws. I have no knowledge of wrestling whatsoever, so this clears things up for me. -{{User:YK/sig}} 00:04, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

==Il Cartographer's hat==
I don't know what to call it, but that's definitely not a beret. [[User:Wear a Bikini|Wear a Bikini]] 04:02, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

== He's lower? ==

In the trivia section it says "Homestar's voice seems to be slightly lower." But I don't hear this. It sounds completely normal to me. I went back and watched [[Business Trip]] just to be sure and they sound the same to me. Anyone else agree? {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 16:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

== "I'm done take me off the air"? ==

*It sounds like "I'm- don't take me off the air" to me. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 16:32, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
::No, it is "I'm done take me off the air"--{{User:AWMPSCE/sig}} 21:55, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

== Really poor "remarks" section... ==

Do we really need remarks for Homestar's voice being lower (because he's speaking like a professional wrestler) and a group of people using the word "I" (because that's the way the words of the song go)? Both of these seem really reaching to me. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 07:19, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:yes, wrestling

0rion — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 07:19:01 GMT

0rion: /**/Really poor "remarks" section...

== "Real" wrestlers ==
Spiky Shoulderpads are possibly parodying the Road Warriors or the Legion of Doom.
The "Facepaint connection" directly parodies Demolition, including the Mr. Fuji-esque manager.
Jack 'em Up kid's outfit is similar to the Junkyard dog, but talks more like Hulk Hogan.
Boliver Turnbunkler may refer to William Regal.
--[[User:Slackerboy|Slackerboy]] 22:52, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
:I agree with the Road Warriors. I don't even know wrestling (like, at all), and I thought of it. (I probably remember some wrestling game review in Nintendo Power...) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:56, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
:Threw in the Road Warriors as well as specific jabs at Hulk Hogan. I don't know if the "EM UP" on the back of Homestar's tights is similar enough to "THUMP" on the back of JYD's to merit inclusion. And by the way, I've been watching wrestling for 20 years -- this email is downright hilarious. --[[User:TJDevil02|TJDevil02]]
::The out-of-breath three-words-at-a-time ranting is classic, isn't it? But anyway, I think "EM UP" to "THUMP" would get rejected hard around here, unless you can show that the location/lettering is similar. I haven't seen this, and couldn't find an image of it quickly. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:30, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, [http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/pictures/04/andre.jpg JYD's THUMP] was just written in a plain sans-serif font, and it didn't go in an arch either. And maybe it's just me, but I think the Facepaint Connection's blue/gray/black color scheme looks more like the Powers of Pain than the Demos. Mr. Fuji managed both, right? --[[User:68.214.209.69|68.214.209.69]] 07:54, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::::You're right, he did. It's worth examining more, especially since I forgot the PoP wore facepaint. They dropped it after they were split up in 1990.

== Missed an Easter egg. ==

don't miss the jack 'em up kid merch easter egg by clicking on the S behind said kid in interview {{User:TheDude/sig}} 22:13, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

<nowiki>Click on the Big S during Homestarrunner interview to see souvenirs </nowiki>

*Why are you mentioning it here? Just add it next time you see something like that. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 06:47, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== We HAVE seen his moves... some of them anyway (oh, and grammar error) ==

I don't wanna go adding anything to this article about it as I don't know the proper names, but we saw SB perform a suplex and a piledriver in sibbie... my wrestling knowledge isn't good enough to know what kind they were, so I'll leave it up to someone more in the know :) [[User:Psi|Psi]] 23:05, 27 November 2007 (UTC) Oh yeah, and I don't think"Dear awesome Strong Bad." is actually a sentence, as it does not contain a verb, despite SB's remark.
: On the "PS", of course it isn't. However, "Dear Strong Bad" '''SHOULD''' end in a comma, not a period. It's just Strong Bad mocking the writer's grammar like always. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:31, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

: Strong Bad was also taxidoimied suplexing a cougar in funeral.[[User:Xerzes|Xerzes]] 00:55, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

The moves in sibbie are a jumping piledriver and a standing suplex, I believe. The Suplex might be a snap suplex, but I can't tell.[[User:12.216.87.36|12.216.87.36]] 05:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:He also does some sort of elbow drop in [[lady...ing]]. (And some sort of helicopter-sounding Samus-esque spin attack...) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:55, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Top Rope Elbow Drop, and the spinning attack looks like a crazy variation of a front dropkick. I'm going to register later, probably.[[User:12.216.87.36|12.216.87.36]] 06:02, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:Registered, and that IS a front dropkick variation.[[User:Tommyspud|Tommyspud]] 06:12, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

== Another grammar error ==

When SB types "dinosaur tranquilizer fueled ranting and raving" (misspelling "fueled" as "feuled" on the screen), shouldn't it be hyphenated as "dinosaur-tranquilizer-fueled?" I know at least "tranquilizer-fueled" is.
:Technically, yes, you are correct. That kind of modifier should be hyphenated.[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 01:33, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
== Fo' Sizzle ==

I'm thinking it's Sizzleweight. The emblem on the belt shows bacon and a fried egg.. sizzling? Although it does sound like ''Strong Bad'' says it "Fizzle" .. but maybe that's just him mocking Homestar.. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:42, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:In this case, I just picked whatever I thought I heard, since it wasn't very distinct. I can see "sizzleweight" being right now that you mention it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:50, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::I keep hearing "thistleweight", but i guess "sizzle" makes more sense... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:51, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Jackemettes ==

I think comparing this to "Juggalo" is a bit much of a stretch. I admit this may be partially due to a strong dislike of ICP. [[User:Xerzes|Xerzes]] 00:52, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
*I have friends in a wrestling troupe who wrestle in Juggalo/Juggalette style, so I don't think it's much of a stretch. I think we should at least acknowledge the Juggalette/Jackemette similarity. [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|Taranch-V15]]
:This 'similarity' is a forced coincidence at best. I see no reason to include it. Of course, I just had my History of Tudor/Stuart England class today, so I heard Jack-emite as being extremely similar to Jacobite. I suppose that gives us a This and a That...can anyone provide an Other Thing?[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 07:13, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::Vegemite!
::It's probably too flimsy to survive STUFFing, but I also felt like the similarity to "Jacobites" was intentional, if bizarre. For the unfamiliar, it is indeed pronounced "JACK-uh-bite", not "JAY-kuh-bite". --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:29, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
*Juggalettes are related to wrestling. Jacobites are related to those who followed the belief of the illegitimacy of parliamentary interference with monarchical succession. If you're going to argue against something, at least keep it on topic. [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|Taranch-V15]]

== Poo Yeah? ==

I don't hear a "P" sound. It's more like "Hoo Yeah" or "Who Yeah" [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 00:55, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:I hear "hoo yeah" as well. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:50, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::'''hoo''', this ain't no [[Important Rap Song]] here. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:53, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, '''"Hoo, yeah!"''' Well, I like the comma in there, but I might be outnumbered. But it ain't .. the other thing .. that I can't even bring myself to type. I don't like that word. =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:::It's probably "Boo Yeah". I think that would be a portmanteau of "Boo Yah" and "Oh Yeah". {{User:Im a bell/sig}} 03:36, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

I also think that it sounds more like "Hoo Yeah". "Poo yeah", lol. Maybe if they were wrestling in a bathroom.--[[User:Ava|Ava]] 02:15, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:Gross. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:18, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:If it's Hoo Yeah, it could be considered a parody of the Miz's Hoorah.[[User:12.216.87.36|12.216.87.36]] 05:55, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

==C'mon Guys, Seriously==

It's about time we made the KOT booing off screen a running gag. Hes done it like, 8 times man! {{unsigned|68.53.87.6| 00:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)}}
:You mean [[The King of Town Booing]]? That was created a couple hours before you posted this? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 01:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Singers ==

I can hear the Thnikkaman singers, but it sounds like they're being accompanied by Crackotage. Anyone else hear this? -- [[User:TJDevil02|TJDevil02]]

:If you mean for il Cartographer and Gardenboy, then yes, I do. --[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 12:47, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

== Fear and Loathing? ==

Is it just me or do Strong Bad and Strong Mad's getups as "The Wild Vacationers" recall Raoul Duke and Dr. Gonzo from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (who are memorably Wild in their Vacationing). Shouldn't this go in Real World references? [[User:Cheesechimp|Cheesechimp]] 04:20, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:no

== In SBEmail menu but not New Stuff ==

This isn't listed in the 'New Stuff' section. I'm not sure whether it's a remark or a goof. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 10:06, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
: Yes, it is. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:08, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::hmm, so it is now. Oh well. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]]
:::It was probably just your cache. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:13, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Foreign object bros. ==

Could this possibly be a reference to the super mario bros.? I'm sure I'm wrong, but this is the first thing I thought of when I saw it.-[[User:AWMPSCE|AWMPSCE]]
:How? Just because they both use "Brothers" in their name? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:55, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::I said I was probably wrong......don't sound annoyed.-[[User:AWMPSCE|AWMPSCE]]
:::Don't be so defensive. He was asking you to clarify.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 21:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Oh.....I can't.-[[User:AWMPSCE|AWMPSCE]]
:::::I feel dumb now.......-[[User:AWMPSCE|AWMPSCE]]
::::::Actually, from my standpoint, it seems like a connection to the hammer bros.... Or maybe ECW hardcore matches, since wrestlers occasionally brought weapons down to the ring.[[User:12.216.87.36|12.216.87.36]] 05:34, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, and I even think they had a hammer. [[User:76.173.92.70|76.173.92.70]] 05:36, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Or a referance to Regal, when he hid brass knuckles in his trunks. They were usually pulled out and used to win matches.[[User:12.216.87.36|12.216.87.36]] 05:48, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I thought of the hammer bros. first thing when i saw it, but i think it's too much of a stretch to be a real reference. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:52, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Yeah, it is, but I don't think Regal or the hardcore comparisions are a stretch.[[User:Tommyspud|Tommyspud]] 14:34, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::I think that anything is a stretch here. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::::But, it is a reference to all the 'brother' teams in wrestling, like team 3D, Hardyz, Briscoes, and Harlem Heat. [[User:Tommyspud|Tommyspud]] 15:24, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::::Omg, it's a reference to the Steiners. At least, the costume and name is. SB's even wearing the headgear, sans earmuffs, but SB has no ears or the mask covers them up.[[User:Tommyspud|Tommyspud]] 03:57, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

On a different note, can anyone tell what the other object Strong Bad has is? It kinda looks like a blunt to me, but it's too big and round. [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 02:15, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

:If you ask me, it looks like a huge marijuana joint. I know there's another word for that, but I don't know it. Anyway, I ran it just looking for that, and is seems to be about the right length, and wrapped in white paper... --[[User:Gaeamil|Gaeamil]] 12:49, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Bad and Strong Mad's Wrestling Teams ==

I'm thinking we should make a seperate page describing the identities that Strong Bad and Strong Mad use as their wresting teams. Any thoughts? {{User:TheCoolRobot/sig}} 21:08, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

== Gardon Boy ==

"Garden Boy is a reference to Nature Boy". I'm not sure about this. Garden Boy could reference anything, even a Garden Freak. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 00:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:You know what that means, kids, time for a STUFF! [[User:76.173.92.70|76.173.92.70]] 00:23, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::First, Kids? Second, let's wait. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 00:25, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Wait, why are we bringing this to the talk page? It's the SENDER'S NAME! It could be Pulk Pogan and we wouldn't say it's a reference to Hulk Hogan; we don't care about senders. =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 00:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, sometimes we care if it's exceptionally notable and clear-cut to do so. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:39, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::We're not perfect at guessing TBC's references, so why start guessing the references intended by e-mail senders? O_o It could simply be the guy's usual screen name. He could be a gardener. Heck, it could just be entirely random. '''→''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 19:58, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's pronunciation ==

It sounds to me like the way Strong Sad delivers his last line is in, like, a faux french accent. Is that notable for this page? Further, it seems like he has a tendency to do this (like "chap au fan" or whatever in funeral, for example, I think there are others..) Should that be a running gag/page?mention somewhere/etc? [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 05:43, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:[[Foreign Words]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:47, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:: Hmm, maybe.. I see that his pronunciation of chaperone is indeed on there. But some things don't seem to fit, like this one where he's not actually saying a foreign word, just adding a foreign accent. Which is why I was thinkin' it might be appropriate for a page in its own right... [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 05:58, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Hmmm, yeah.... we apparently have a page on [[French]]... so between the two, bases are probably covered.. [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 06:24, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Seeing as how il is Italian for "the", he's portraying a fake Italian accent. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 17:07, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

== Under the neckline ==

I added this fact:
<blockquote>*This is the first time that Homestar's body under the neckline is shown uncensored.</blockquote>
It was [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=yes%2C_wrestling&diff=522628&oldid=522612 removed] by [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] with the summary "Is this true? Forgive me if so, but I was almost certain it was not.". Before adding the fact I first checked in [[Homestar Runner Other Costumes]] and the most bare he was was with V-neck costumes like [[:Image:HR poncho.PNG|this one]]. The Jack 'Em Up Kid is bare all over and I think this is worth mentioning. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:08, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:I was sure of it also, and was gonna revert straight away but decided not to since maybe there's something that i missed, however, seeing this post here, i have since reverted it, that fact is back on the page. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 12:53, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::Thank you. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:04, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::So, I think the one I'm thinking of is the deleted scene from Yellow Dello. He's definitely naked below the neck and there's no pixelation, but it's from the back, so I dunno if that's different. [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 15:37, 29 November 2007 (UTC) Edit to clarify: So is it different enough that I shouldn't take it out again? [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 02:03, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I think this is a valid fact. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 04:33, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

==Cinnamon Dots==

I count seventeen cinnamon dots on Homestar. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 23:18, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

== The Jack'em up Kid ==

Might the Jack'em up kid be a spin on the 1-2-3 Kid, Sean Waltman (Syxx, X-Pac, and Syxx-Pac) back in classic WWF? the name and the full body singlet are a dead give away. [http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/x/xpac/09.jpg www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/x/xpac/09.jpg]

== Singers ==

''The singers for Strong Sad's entrance music are the same singers for the Thnikkaman's theme song.'' That fact seems a bit dubious to me. How do we know that they're the same? They don't sound exactly the same to me (plus there's the male sounding name). Anyway, my point is I don't see any way to confirm/verify this "fact". [[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 02:03, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:I agree with Dagron. [[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 17:32, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

== Francais ==

Should we say something about what "il-est" means in French? ("It/he is") Seems like something that would go in one of the categories. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 04:32, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:I think it was a play on "il Cartographer" and "illest"... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:34, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

==Larry The Legend==
Thought I'd post my explanation here and let you duke it out if it's legit or not. I had an entry that was deleted, guessing that "Gary the Legend" is a reference to Larry Zbyszko, aka "The Living Legend." Now, while the deleter said that the "legend" thing was tenuous at best (which I'd sort of agree with if that was a problem), I mainly made the association because of the rhyming aspect. Such as "Gary the Legend" and "Larry the Legend" (as Zbyszko is sometimes called). Is this too much of a stretch? (Also, I guess to add to this train of thought, when "Legend" is mentioned in pro wrestling, many times it refers to Larry Zbyszko. If I recall correctly, he once filed a lawsuit against Randy Orton for calling himself "The Legend Killer" ... "Legend" being the part of the nickname that he felt was trademarked.) --- El Santo
:I don't know much about wrestling history but that seems to be a pretty convincing case. I don't see a reason to exclude it. ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 03:52, 1 December 2007 (UTC))

The original fact read:

* Gary the Legend is a reference to wrestler and commentator [[Wikipedia: Larry Zbyszko|Larry "The Living Legend" Zbyszko]].

I'm the one who removed it, and I did so because, as written, there's no actual connection made beyond the word "Legend", and I assumed it was merely grasping at straws. I have no knowledge of wrestling whatsoever, so this clears things up for me. -{{User:YK/sig}} 00:04, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

==Il Cartographer's hat==
I don't know what to call it, but that's definitely not a beret. [[User:Wear a Bikini|Wear a Bikini]] 04:02, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

== He's lower? ==

In the trivia section it says "Homestar's voice seems to be slightly lower." But I don't hear this. It sounds completely normal to me. I went back and watched [[Business Trip]] just to be sure and they sound the same to me. Anyone else agree? {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 16:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

== "I'm done take me off the air"? ==

*It sounds like "I'm- don't take me off the air" to me. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 16:32, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
::No, it is "I'm done take me off the air"--{{User:AWMPSCE/sig}} 21:55, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

== Really poor "remarks" section... ==

Do we really need remarks for Homestar's voice being lower (because he's speaking like a professional wrestler) and a grouple of people using the word "I" (because that's the way the words of the song go)? Both of these seem really reaching to me. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 07:19, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

yes, wrestling

0rion — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:24:57 GMT

0rion: /* Explanations */ Little bit of extra stuff here.

{{sbenav|183}}
[[Image:yes, wrestling.png|thumb|"Never before had two chairs and a potted plant so transformed the wrestling ring!"]]
Strong Bad demonstrates various costumes and gimmicks from his wrestling career.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|The Announcer}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, Gary the Legend

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Gymnasium]], [[The Field]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Tuesday, November 27, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 4:41

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Emailin' from the left and to the right, emailin' on a Tuuuuesday night!

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: none</div>
Dear awesome Strong Bad. 
Could you please show us some of your awesome wrestling 
moves. 
Gardenboy 
Bfn SA 
</blockquote>

''{After "Strong Bad", Strong Bad says "Period. That's the best sentence ever written!" He reads the location as "Best friends never, South Africa".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well Gardenboy, as a crafty ring veteran, I can let you in on a little secret: being an awesome wrestler has nothing to do with awesome wrestling moves! ''{clears screen}'' It's all about awesome costumes, gimmicks, and dinosaur tranquilizer fueled ''{misspelled "feuled"}'' ranting and raving! I got my first big break with cable access's longest named wrestling organization: All World Mid-Pro Shirtless Championship Entertainment, or AWMPSCE. ''{pronounces "OMP-skee"}'' Of course, they wanted me to be one of those lame masked wrestlers at first, but I had gimmickier plans.

''{Cut to a photograph of Strong Bad wearing a crown and a wrestling suit that has a crown printed on it. The picture is labeled "Sir Boliver Turnbuckle".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Sir Boliver Turnbuckle and his signature move:

''{Another picture appears with Strong Bad in his Turnbuckle outfit standing behind Strong Sad, with Strong Bad's arm grabbing Strong Sad below his own arm. The picture is labeled "Master of the 1/8th Nelson!"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' The one-eighth nelson!

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' That was back in the days when pretending to be a pompous Brit was considered a ''premium'' gimmick. Once I started getting more popular, my next incarnation was

''{Cut to the Gymatorium's doors. A piece of paper with an AWMPSCE logo is taped on sideways.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover}'' And hailing from the age of exploration, the namer of nations,

''{The doors swing open. Strong Bad is posing behind them. He is wearing an orange beret, a frilly white shirt, and a brown vest. The words "il Cartographer" appear at the bottom of the screen.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' il Cartographer!

''{Strong Bad poses as though he's expecting applause, but all that can be heard are some singers and:}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{from offscreen}'' Booooooo!

'''SINGERS:''' il Cartographer! He makin' the maps! il Cartographer! He takin' no crap!

''{Strong Bad steps forward and throws pieces of paper at the empty seats.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And one of my gimmicks was that I'd always come into the ring throwing—

''{One of Strong Bad's papers stops in front of the camera. It is a map of the Gymatorium and shows the way from one of the seats ("here be you") to "the can", as the toilet is labeled. The map is labeled "Ye Olde Restroom Trail".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' maps to the restrooms into the crowd!

''{Cut to the ring; Strong Bad is holding a flag.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I claim-a this saggy ring in the name of il Cartographer!

''{He taps the flag and it unfurls itself and flaps in imaginary wind, showing an image of Strong Bad's beret with "the il-est" written below it.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{from offscreen}'' Booooo!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' That was back when my big feud with Homestar Runner was in full swing!

''{Cut to a closeup of Homestar Runner's torso. He is wearing red pants (that do not cover his upper chest) that read "'EM UP!" in bold white lettering. The screen slowly pans back.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{from offscreen}'' Ladies and gentlemen! Joining me backstage in historic empty high school gymnasium—

''{The Announcer can now be seen standing next to Homestar, who is facing away from the camera.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' is a man that needs no introduction. Introducing: The Jack 'Em Up Kid!

''{The words "The Jack 'Em Up Kid" appear at the bottom of the screen. Homestar turns toward the camera. His chest has what appears to be cinnamon "stubble" on it, and his hat has no propeller.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, you know, announcer man, that's right! Hoo, yeah! Jack 'Em Up Kid, empty high school gymnasium, ''{holds up a belt with bacon and eggs carved into the buckle}'' fizzleweight belt on the line! Hoo, yeah! That's right! That's correct! That's precisely what I'm talking about! I got the drive, I got the commotion! I can't believe it! Hoo, yeah! el Photographer, whatchoo gonna did? ''{raises his pants on each word}'' When you get jacked up? ''{snaps the elastic band, which muffles his speech}'' By the Jack 'Em Up Kid!

'''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' And that feud carried over into my tag team phase with Strong Mad. Naturally, there were several misfires before we found our groove.

''{Cut to Strong Bad and Strong Mad dressed like tourists. Strong Mad is wearing a purple Hawaiian shirt, while Strong Bad wears a pair of sunglasses and has sunscreen smeared over his nonexistent nose. Both wear fishing hats and cameras.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Nothing can stop the Wild Vacationers!

''{"The Wild Vacationers" appears at the bottom of the screen. With a blip, the scene cuts to Strong Bad and Strong Mad in black spandex outfits. Strong Bad is wearing a headband with a big knife tucked into it, and his pants have a wooden board, a wrench, and one other unidentifiable object in them. Strong Mad has a razor blade lodged in his bleeding forehead, a hammer tucked into his singlet, and the outline of a gun fully inside his singlet.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You betta not mess with the Foreign Object Brothers!

''{"The Foreign Object Bros." appears at the bottom of the screen. With a blip, the scene cuts to Strong Bad and Strong Mad wearing spiky shoulder pads. Strong Mad's singlet is red and has "RAX" written on it. Strong Bad wears a green mohawk.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Rax and Arby: The Sanctum of Spiky Shoulder Pads.

''{"The Sanctum of Spiky Shoulder Pads" appears at the bottom of the screen. With a blip, it cuts to the Announcer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' But we finally settled on...

''{The screen pans over to Strong Bad and Strong Mad with heavy facepaint. Strong Mad's singlet reads "FACEPAINT CONNECTION".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Facepaint Connection! Jack 'Em Up Kid, Gary the Legend, when we step into the ring with the insidious Mr. Cheatayama,

''{Pans over to show The Cheat with a bowler derby and facepaint that resembles a mustache and goatee. He is holding an egg beater. It pans back after a moment.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You better hope for your guts and your mercy ''{looks confused for a moment}'' can save you at this Sunday's PayPerViewver Series.

''{"PayPerViewver Series - Sunday 9PM" appears at the bottom of the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I didn't climb the mountains and breathe the facepainted fumes just to let you two walk away with the title I'm done take me off the air! ''{frantically}'' TAKE ME OFF THE AIR!!!

''{Static cuts to Homestar, still in his Jack 'Em Up Kid outfit, holding a microphone.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hoo, yeah! That's right! Facepaint Connection! You can't resist the power of all the screamin' Jack 'Emites and Jack 'Emettes out there when I pin you to the ground for a count of three which is a legal way to win a match in this wrestling federation the last time I checked. Gary the Legend, take it away!

''{He holds the microphone out to his partner. The screen cuts back, revealing that there is nobody there.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention that Gary the Legend was Homestar's ''imaginary'' tag team partner.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{to "Gary"}'' You tell 'em! You tell 'em, Gary! Hoo, yeah!

''{Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Eventually I began wrestling as my own dang self and finally achieved what every wrestler strives for: my own in-ring interview segment! Never before had two chairs and a potted plant so transformed the wrestling ring!

''{Cut to the Gymatorium.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{from offscreen}'' And now for another installment of—

''{The words "Strong Bad's Folding Chair DUNGEON" appear onscreen. The word "DUNGEON" drips blood.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{from offscreen}'' Strong Bad's Folding Chair Dungeon!

''{Cut to the ring, where Strong Bad can be seen with a microphone. Behind him is a table with a potted plant and a skull on it, with two folding chairs next to it. A red rug sits underneath it all.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Welcome back to the darkest dankest regions of my dungeon! My prisoner this week is the current fizzleweight belt holder: The Jack 'Em Up Kid!

''{Homestar, still in costume, jumps into the ring.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hoo, yeah! Hoo, yeah!

''{Strong Bad hits him with one of the folding chairs, knocking him out. Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So you see Gardenboy, you should stop trying to perfect the Summer Squash Suplex and instead get yourself a rake, a straw hat, maybe a watering can and start screaming about how your opponents are gophers!

''{Cut to the Gymatorium's doors. Singing can be heard in the background. The doors open to reveal Strong Sad with a hat, rake, and watering can.}''

'''SINGERS:''' Gardenboy! He's plantin' the seeds! Gardenboy! He's pullin' out the weeds! Gardenboy! He's gonna bring ya to your knees! He's the il Cartographer, I mean, Gardenboy!

'''STRONG SAD:''' All right, all you gophers out there, ha-bring it on!

''{He holds up the watering can, which spouts two flames. [[New Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Jack 'Em T-shirts.png|thumb|What you gone did when you get jacked up?]]
*During Homestar's interview, after the Face Paint scene, click on the "S" in the AWMPSCE logo to see [[T-shirts]], a bumper sticker, and a foam finger promoting the Jack 'Em Up Kid.
*At the end, click on Strong Sad's hat to see the Announcer interviewing Strong Mad:
*:'''ANNOUNCER:''' And Rax, anything you'd care to add?
*:'''STRONG MAD:''' BEEF AND CHEDDAR! FIVE FOR FIVE!
*At the end, click on Strong Sad's watering can to see a scene with Homestar and the Brothers Strong in the [[Halloween|Field at night]].
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Strong Bad. I really like your Rudy from ''Fat Albert'' costume.

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*"Bfn" stands for "[[Wikipedia:Bloemfontein|Bloemfontein]]", one of South Africa's three capital cities.
**Strong Bad misreads this as "best friends never," which is a play off of the acronym "BFF," meaning "Best friends forever."
*The "1/8 nelson" is not a wrestling hold, but the half-nelson and three-quarter [[wikipedia:Nelson hold|nelson]] are amateur wrestling holds designed to get a quick pinfall, and the full nelson (which is illegal in NCAA wrestling) is a famous submission hold in the professional ranks.

===Trivia===
*This sbemail was released Tuesday night instead of the usual Monday morning, as Strong Bad points out in his opening song.

===Remarks===
*"Gymnatorium" is a [[portmanteau]] of gymnasium and auditorium.
*The "e" in before is slightly cut off on the right side.

===Goofs===
*When Strong Bad says "dinosaur tranquilizer fueled ranting and raving", "fueled" is misspelled on the computer screen as "feuled."
*When Strong Bad puts up his "il-est" flag, the floor reads "AWMPSE" instead of "AWMPSCE."

===Inside References===
*The subject of this email is [[professional wrestling]].
*Homestar Runner, as The Jack 'Em Up Kid, has a wrestling belt with an image of [[bacon]] and [[eggs]].
*Homestar is wearing what could be described as a form of [[long pants]].
*Strong Bad, as il Cartographer, wears an orange [[beret]].
*The Easter egg for clicking on the watering can is a reference to the ending of most [[Halloween]] cartoons, including the [[What are you supposed to be?|inability to recognize Strong Bad's costume]].
*The Cheat, as the Insidious Mr. Cheatayama, wears a black [[bowler hat]].
*As a Foreign Object Brother, Strong Mad has a razor stuck in his forehead, which is causing him to [[blood|bleed]]. Also, in "Strong Bad's Folding Chair DUNGEON", the word "DUNGEON" is dripping with blood.
*At the end of the email, Strong Sad's watering can inexplicably spurt [[fire]].
*The singers for Strong Sad's entrance music are the same singers for the [[Thnikkaman]]'s theme song.
*The scoreboard shows an [[Scoreboard#Irregular Scores|irregular score]] of "?" for the Home team, as it did in [[the paper]]. The Flash file shows the other score as "$", also as in [[the paper]].
*Homestar has [[cinnamon]] on his chest.
*The King of Town is heard [[The King of Town Booing|booing]].
*Strong Bad's wrestling Homestar is a reference to [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]], as is Strong Mad's being Strong Bad's tag team partner.
*As one of the Foreign Objects Brothers, Strong Bad has a [[big knife]] tucked in his [[headband]].

===Real-World References===
*Strong Bad and Strong Mad as Arby and Rax refers to restaurants [[Wikipedia:Arby's|Arby's]] and [[Wikipedia:Rax (restaurant)|Rax]], both of which specialize in roast beef sandwiches.
*A "Beef 'n Cheddar" is a sandwich available at Arby's restaurants. The sandwiches are periodically sold "Five for $5."
*[[Wikipedia:Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids|Fat Albert]] was a 1970s cartoon created and hosted by [[Bill Cosby]], based on his stand-up comedy routine.
*The Cheat's character is based on famous wrestling manager "Mr. Fuji"; among Fuji's famous clients was Demolition, a team that wore facepaint in a similar design to what the Strongs have.
*Strong Bad's interview segment is based on many wrestlers having interviews segments (most famously Roddy Piper's "Piper's Pit") mid-show.
*"Pay-per-viewver Series" refers to [[Wikipedia:Survivor Series|Survivor Series]], a [[Wikipedia:World Wrestling Entertainment|WWE]] pay-per-view event.
*The Sanctum of Spiky Shoulder Pads is a reference to the Road Warriors tag team (aka the Legion of Doom), who became famous for their shoulder pads covered in spikes.
*The Wild Vacationers is a reference to the Wild Samoans tag team who were managed by Captain Lou Albano. Albano would often wear a Hawaiian shirt to the ring, much like the Vacationers.
*Homestar's quote, "Whatchoo gonna did, when you get jacked up by the Jack 'Em Up Kid?" is a twist of Hulk Hogan's famous interview-ending catchphrase, "Whatcha gonna do when Hulkamania runs wild on you?!" In addition, beginning "Well you know, announcer man..." is similar to Hogan's famous interview opening, "Well ya know something, Mean Gene...", addressed to long-time wrestling personality "Mean" Gene Okerlund.
*The razor blade lodged in Strong Mad's forehead from his costume as a Foreign Objects Brother references blading, the method that professional wrestlers use to make themselves bleed mid-match. Blading involves using a razor blade like Strong Mad's to surreptitiously cut oneself mid-match so that nobody notices that the cut is self-inflicted. Many older wrestlers have noticeable scar tissue on their forehead (much like Strong Mad does in the clip) from blading hundreds of times in their careers.
*Strong Bad saying: "TAKE ME OFF THE AIR!!!" is a reference to a [[Wikipedia:Paul Heyman|Paul Heyman]] shoot promo from an episode on [[Wikipedia:ECW on TNN|ECW on TNN]] in 2000.
*Homestar's theme song as a wrestler is a slowed-down version of the main theme from [[Wikipedia:Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!|Punch-Out!!]] for the [[Nintendo]].
*"Dinosaur tranquilizer fueled ranting and raving" is a reference to an event that happened on the television show [[Wikipedia:WWE Friday Night SmackDown!|SmackDown!]] in February 2005, when then-champion John Bradshaw Layfield was shot with a tranquilizer dart and went into a rant with an inflatable dinosaur in front of a Tokyo crowd.
* Homestar's "Em' Up" phrase on his shirt is somewhat similar to the catchphrase "Man Up", used by the [[Wikipedia:Briscoe Brothers|Briscoe Brothers]]
* Strong Bad's interview talking about The Jack Em' Up Kid is a twist on an [[Wikipedia:Ultimate Warrior|Ultimate Warrior]] interview, which were more often than not, nonsensical.
* Strong Bad's comment of "That was back in the days when pretending to be a pompous Brit was considered a premium gimmick" relates to wrestlers such as the British Bulldog and "Lord" Steven Regal, as well as a reference to other wrestlers who falsify their place of origin.
* The "Entertainment" in AWMPSCE is a reference to WWE, World Wrestling Entertainment, who changed their name in 2002 from the World Wrestling Federation, or WWF, in response to a cease-and-desist order from the Worldwide Fund For Nature, formerly the World Wildlife Fund, who used the same initials.

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|183|12999}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}

Talk:yes, wrestling

0rion — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:47:58 GMT

0rion: /* Missed an Easter egg. */

Talk:yes, wrestling

0rion — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:47:42 GMT

0rion: /* Missed an Easter egg. */

homsar

0rion — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:30:24 GMT

0rion: /* Fast Forward */ Speculation.

{{sbenav|2}}

[[Image:sbemail2.PNG|thumb|"Uhdyeah, what ees it, Strong Baaaaayaad?"]]

{{aboutemail}} {{forcharacter|Homsar}}

A misspelling of "[[Homestar Runner|Homestar]]" leaves Strong Bad attempting to kill Homsar.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homsar}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]]

{{Comp|Tandy 400}}

'''Date:''' 2001

'''Running Time:''' 0:46

'''Page Title:''' Tandy 400!!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc One}}

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing, types "run Strongbad's__email"}'' I'm gonna check my email all of the time, doo doo doo...

<blockquote class="tandy email">Hi Strong Bad, 
If you hate Homsar so much, 
why don't you kill him? 
-Vinnie C.</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says the last line as "From Vinnie C."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You know what, Vinnie? You're right. I'll be right back. ''{gets up}''

''{Cut to Homsar standing in the Field. Strong Bad enters the frame in the foreground.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, Homsar!

'''HOMSAR:''' ''{faces Strong Bad}'' Uhdyeah, what ees it, Strong Baaaaayaad?

''{Strong Bad leaves the frame and the Heavy Lourde falls on Homsar, completely crushing him. Cut back to Tandy 400.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sits down, typing}'' Oh man, Vinnie. That feels so much better. Thanks a lot! ''{stops typing}'' Okay, so until next time, keep sending me your questions, and I will keep making fun of your punctuation and spelling. I mean, answer them.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down, and it says "Click here to e-mail strong bad"}''

== Fun Facts ==
[[Image:Sbemail2 old emails button.PNG|150px|thumb|"old emails" button]]
===Trivia===
*This is the first email in which Strong Bad makes fun of someone's [[Poorly Written Emails|spelling]].
*This is also the first email that shows an area outside of the [[computer room]].
*This is the first email where a character other than Strong Bad appears.
*This marks first appearances of Homsar and the [[Heavy Lourde]].
*The back button at the end of this email used to go to the games menu instead of the Strong Bad Email menu (an "old emails" button used to be present that would link to the old emails). After [[flashback]] was released, [[The Brothers Chaps]] removed the old emails button and fixed the back link.

=== Remarks ===
* Strong Bad's mouth doesn't move when he says "doo doo doo."
* When Homsar turns to face Strong Bad, only his head moves. His body stays put.
* The Flash file for this email is the smallest in terms of file size at just over 100 kilobytes.
* The Heavy Lourde falls from [[Hammerspace|nowhere]].

===Goofs===
*Strong Bad's mask doesn't have laces on the back of it when he goes outside.
*Strong Bad's neck cannot be seen when he pulls away from the Tandy.

===Fast Forward===
*In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]], Homsar leaves a message thanking [[Marzipan]] for the flowers she sent him while he was in the hospital. It's implied that he was in the hospital because the Heavy Lourde had been dropped on him in this email.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail2.html|watch "homsar"]]
*[[HR:sbemail2.swf|view the Flash file for "homsar"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]]

Strong Sad and Homsar's Relationship

0rion — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:19:43 GMT

0rion: undid revision 516584; No, but that's no excuse to make one up just because it MIGHT be the case.

[[Image:Connect_Four.PNG|thumb|"It's just us two."]]
'''[[Strong Sad]] and [[Homsar]]'s Relationship''' is usually easy-going. They often hang out with each other and very rarely don't get along.

== Strong Sad and Homsar getting along ==
*[[Where's The Cheat?]] — Strong Sad plays board games with Homsar.

*Email [[army]] — Strong Sad and Homsar both join the [[Homestarmy]].
*Email [[2 emails]] — Homsar called Strong Sad earlier, and said he was "a million ladies tall".
*Email [[rampage]] — Strong Sad recites a poem for Homsar, as well as [[Marzipan]].
*Email [[impression]] — Homsar's Strong Sad impression faithfully reflects its subject, to the point that Homsar is disqualified.
*[[DNA Evidence]] — Homsar is the only one at Strong Sad's lecture.
*[[Strong Sad's Lament]] — Strong Sad mentions that Homsar invited him to a party and mentioned that he had gone to one of Homsar's parties before, though he wasn't so impressed with Homsar's party-throwing abilities. In addition, Homsar presumably checked Strong Sad's blog some number of times.

== Strong Sad and Homsar not getting along ==
*[[Where's The Cheat?]] — Strong Sad seems annoyed by the fact that Homsar doesn't know what game they're playing.
*[[Homsar Main Page]] — Strong Sad tells Homsar he "doesn't think this is a very good idea" for Homsar to be "up there", possibly referring to the place where all menu characters stand.
{{stub}}

[[Category:Character Relationships]]

Seasonal Sweaters

0rion — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:21:38 GMT

0rion: /* Remarks */ Defining her "style" is highly questionable, and it's been established that she has more than one guitar.

[[Image:dweensweaters.PNG|thumb|"Seasonal sweaters, seasonal sweat"]]

Marzipan jams about holiday sweaters. The Cheat animates.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Marzipan]], [[The Cheat]]

'''Places:''' [[The Pond]]

'''Date:''' July 19, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 0:34

'''Page Title:''' Seasonal Sweaters

== Transcript ==
(In the lower left hand corner of the screen it says:

Marzipan 
Seasonal Sweaters 
Dir: The Cheat)

Marzipan:

One, two, three, four.

Seasonal sweaters 
With presents and bows 
Snowmen and trees 
And sometimes a bell (a bell!)

Seasonal sweaters 
Seasonal sweat

Na na na na na, 
Na na na, yeah!

Acrylics and yarn 
Rayons and knit 
Seasonal sweaters 
Provide the best fit! (Best fit!)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Couscous|Couscous]] is a food which consists of grains made from semolina and is traditionally served under a meat or vegetable stew.

===Trivia===
*This toon is an Easter egg itself, found under "Puppet Style" in [[Decemberween In July]].
*This toon was added to the menu exactly one week after ''Decemberween In July'' was released.

===Remarks===
*The Cheat again misnames Marzipan's guitar Carol as "Carl." He also did so in the email "[[marzipan]]."
*When loading, it says "[[Irregular Loading Screens|Load it!]]" instead of "loading..."
*The miscellaneous sweaters say:
**"Jing"
**"ho hum"
**"na na na na"
**"what shopping??"
**"fruit cake is gross!" (with a picture of a fruitcake circled and crossed out)
**"Back"
*One of the yarn balls says "yawn".
*The [[font]] on the bag is The Cheat's rendition of Bauhaus93, which is also the font used on [[Homsar]]'s shirt.
*The sign next to Marzipan at the start says "free concert for couscous." Later on it says "free concert for The Cheat!"

===Inside References===
*The "free concert" sign is a reference to the "free concert for birds" sign from the email [[marzipan]].
*The sweater saying "Jing" spells it "JiNG" and one says "FRUiTCAKE iS GROSS", yet more instances of [[Lowercase i's]].

===Real-World References===
*In one scene, "Seasonal Sweat" is written at the bottom of the screen in a font like the band [[Wikipedia:Slayer|Slayer]] uses.
*The "Seasonal Sweater Bag" is styled after the "little/medium/big brown bag(s)" that are obtained at [[Wikipedia:Bloomingdale's|Bloomingdale's]].

===Fast Forward===
*The Cheat can be seen knitting again in [[No Hands On Deck]].

== See Also ==
The [[Seasonal Sweaters Visuals|visuals]] that occur during the film.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:seasonalsweaters.html|watch "Seasonal Sweaters"]]
*[[HR:seasonalsweaters_new.swf|view the Flash file for "Seasonal Sweaters"]]

{{Decemberween In July}}

{{subtitlesLinks|seasonalsweaters}}

[[Category:Powered by The Cheat]]
[[Category:Songs]]

Talk:Peacey P

0rion — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:17:24 GMT

0rion: /* Who is Peacey P? */

==What kind of character is Peacey P?==

He's in the [[Teen Girl Squad Characters]] category, but he seems to exist in the same world as the Free Country characters.

Peacey P is a COOL character! He's in both! I'm pretty sure he can be in both TGS and FCUSA. -Rad p.s. I LOOOVES THE PEACEY P!!

==Tenerence Love==

Now should we make a page for [[Tenerence Love]]? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:11, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:Total yes! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:14, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== What's this jargle? ==

<blockquote>His name is a play on the [[Wikipedia:Phencyclidine|PCP]] drug What's Her Face mentions, and bears a striking resemblance to [[Wikipedia:Eazy E|Eazy E]], or [[Wikipedia:Percee P|Percee P]]. His voice and singing style are very similar to [[Wikipedia:Snoop Dogg|Snoop Dogg]].</blockquote>
:The first part is already explained (sort of), and the second part reeks of [[TTATOT]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:56, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

:: The first part was due to a "copy/paste job with additions". Go ahead and remove that. And the Snoop Dogg part I can only assume you copied on accident. So that really just leaves it at the middle part, which we had discussions on when TGS13 came out. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:01, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

:::I just think the Eazy E, Percee P, ''and'' Snoop Dogg comparisons are unlikely. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:51, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

::::Then why did you not bring it up sooner? Most of the material on this page was transferred from [[Teen Girl Squad Minor Characters]] and has been there for months. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:53, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

:::::Hey, better late than never. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:03, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== Sketch ==

What's wrong with having the Peacey P sketch on the Peacey P page? Lots of characters pages have sketched versions of the character, and none of the current images are of the "real" Peacey P. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:33, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:too many images is not a good thing, and the sketch is less important than his actual appearances. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:36, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

== Who is Peacey P? ==

It sounds more like Mike Chapman than his brother. Is there any confirmation on who does his voice? [[User:0rion|0rion]] 07:17, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
:Sounds like old-timey Homestar with a different "accent" to me. '''→''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 03:52, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
::Agree with Peacey P. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 03:58, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I guess that makes sense. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 07:17, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Peacey P

0rion — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:38:41 GMT

0rion: /**/Who is Peacey P?

==What kind of character is Peacey P?==

He's in the [[Teen Girl Squad Characters]] category, but he seems to exist in the same world as the Free Country characters.
==Tenerence Love==

Now should we make a page for [[Tenerence Love]]? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:11, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:Total yes! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:14, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== What's this jargle? ==

<blockquote>His name is a play on the [[Wikipedia:Phencyclidine|PCP]] drug What's Her Face mentions, and bears a striking resemblance to [[Wikipedia:Eazy E|Eazy E]], or [[Wikipedia:Percee P|Percee P]]. His voice and singing style are very similar to [[Wikipedia:Snoop Dogg|Snoop Dogg]].</blockquote>
:The first part is already explained (sort of), and the second part reeks of [[TTATOT]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:56, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

:: The first part was due to a "copy/paste job with additions". Go ahead and remove that. And the Snoop Dogg part I can only assume you copied on accident. So that really just leaves it at the middle part, which we had discussions on when TGS13 came out. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:01, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

:::I just think the Eazy E, Percee P, ''and'' Snoop Dogg comparisons are unlikely. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:51, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

::::Then why did you not bring it up sooner? Most of the material on this page was transferred from [[Teen Girl Squad Minor Characters]] and has been there for months. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:53, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

:::::Hey, better late than never. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:03, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== Sketch ==

What's wrong with having the Peacey P sketch on the Peacey P page? Lots of characters pages have sketched versions of the character, and none of the current images are of the "real" Peacey P. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:33, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:too many images is not a good thing, and the sketch is less important than his actual appearances. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:36, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

== Who is Peacey P? ==

It sounds more like Mike Chapman than his brother. Is there any confirmation on who does his voice?

Strong Sad and Homsar's Relationship

0rion — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:55:46 GMT

0rion: /* Strong Sad and Homsar not getting along */ The context of this statement wasn't given or implied.

Homsar

0rion — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:54:02 GMT

0rion: /* Naming of Other Characters (and Himself) */ It should be noted that he does use his real name here.

{{charnav|Homsar|homsar|The Poopsmith|Homestar Runner}}
{{aboutcharacter}} {{foremail|homsar}}
[[Image:homsar evolution current.png|thumb|{{homsarquote}}]]

== Biography ==
'''Homsar''' is perhaps the strangest and most enigmatic of all the [[Characters#Main characters|primary residents]] of the [[Homestar Runner universe]]. He was originally created as a result of a typo in the [[Strong Bad Email|email]] [[homsar]], in which Vinnie C. asked, "If you hate homsar so much, why don't you kill him?" (Presumably, Vinnie had actually meant to type "[[Homestar Runner|Homestar]]".) [[Strong Bad]] promptly dropped a [[Heavy Lourde]] on Homsar and left him for [[Death|dead]]. [[The Brothers Chaps]] later decided to keep Homsar as a main character, and they brought him back in an Easter egg in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] and in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]], where he thanked [[Marzipan]] for the flowers she sent him while he was in the hospital.

Homsar occasionally makes brief appearances in various cartoons, but most of the time he appears only in Easter eggs (and has even been referred to as the "secret guy"). In every [[Holidays#Halloween (October 31st)|Halloween toon]] since his introduction, Homsar has appeared in an Easter egg somewhere in the middle of the Toon. (This is usually triggered by clicking somewhere on or near [[The Poopsmith]].)

Homsar doesn't have very many friends other than [[Strong Sad]] and Marzipan. Most of the other characters generally regard him as a nuisance. In particular, Strong Bad seems to dislike him the most; as he states in [[interview]] that he would rather gnaw his own leg off than talk to him for 3 seconds. [[Bubs]] apparently refuses to talk to him, as evidenced in [[Where's The Cheat?]]. Despite his unpopularity, he serves in the [[Homestarmy]] and occasionally attends parties where the other main characters are present. He enjoys playing board games with Strong Sad, and has organized his own activities, such as a [[tree hugging]] concert and the play "[[stupid stuff|Butt's Twelve by Pies]]" (starring Lighting and Set Decoration). He ran the Merch Masala on the [[Cool Tapes]] tour in [[Weclome Back]].

In the email [[interview]], Strong Bad, using a pen puppet, claimed that Homsar was "raised by a cup of coffee".

*'''Debut:''' Email [[homsar]]
*[[:Category:Homsar Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

==Distinctive Characteristics==

===Speech===
Homsar's most distinct characteristic is his unusual manner of speaking, which has varied over time. His tone of voice is generally quite exaggerated, and he often begins sentences by wailing "AaAAaaAAaaAAaa!". His speech tends to range from perfectly normal English to often random and disconnected phrases that have little to no connection to the scene. Many believe that Homsar speaks in [[Wikipedia:Word salad (mental health)|word salads]] (a speech disorder characteristic of [[Wikipedia:Schizophrenia|schizophrenia]] in which grammar and sentence structure is often intact, but the words themselves have no particular meaning), but a [[Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns|detailed analysis of his speech patterns]] has shown that this is seldom the case. Instead, it seems that Homsar can and does relate well to his environment and other characters when he needs to, but is also prone to saying completely random things when there's no particular reason for him to stay in context.

Although the viewer is frequently left to figure out what Homsar's statements mean, other characters tend to just accept his speech and usually seem to understand it. Strong Bad is so far the only character to point out that Homsar's speech is "just nonsense", and even then, he was using a pen puppet to illustrate his point rather than talking to Homsar directly. It has been argued that his unusual speech patterns are the result of being crushed by the Heavy Lourde. Some find this unlikely, considering that he was able to speak more or less normally when he called Marzipan after that event. Others suggest that it is possible that the negative effect was a delayed reaction.

As shown in [[DNA Evidence]], he can make his voice sound like a whole crowd of people, even when he is alone.

===Homsar and the Laws of Physics===
[[Image:Homfloat.PNG|thumb|Homsar floating in [[The Field]].]]
Another bizarre aspect of Homsar is his ability to defy the laws of physics through means that are not entirely explained. In many cases it would appear that Homsar can bend reality to his will, performing feats that other characters cannot. Various feats of science defiance include levitation (as demonstrated in [[narrator]], his [[Homsar#Character Video Transcript|character video]], [[A Folky Tale]], [[Halloween Fairstival]], [[the paper]], and [[mini-golf]]), self-duplication ([[Fall Float Parade]]), making a paint brush ring like a bell ([[Homestar Presents: Presents]]), possible time manipulation ([[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]), teleporting ([[for kids]]), possible metamorphosis (as seen in [[impression]], though this hypothesis is disputed), retracting his head like a turtle ([[Happy Hallow-day]]), and creating the sound of a crowd ([[DNA Evidence]]). On top of this, Homsar's yellow [[bowler hat]] can levitate and float around, as well as transmute into different shapes (e.g an engineer's cap as seen in [[Homsar#Character Video Transcript|Character Video]]). It is possible that this hat, which levitates when Homsar speaks, is actually being manipulated, as opposed to just flying about on its own. Homsar is, after all, a character [[Lack of Visible Arms|lacking visible arms]]. A theory for this is that Homsar, and quite possibly the other characters lacking arms, have limited psycho-kinetic abilities. Support for this theory is the fact that Homsar's hat floats whenever he speaks, but that it can float even when he is not speaking. Indeed, it appears that the laws of both science and logic do not apply to Homsar.

===Similarity to Homestar Runner===
In terms of general appearance, Homsar bears a striking resemblance to [[Homestar Runner]]. Although he is grossly exaggerated, pigeon-toed, and more curved, he and Homestar share [[Wikipedia:Prognathism|underbites]], clothing style (a hat and shirt), feet style, shading, and skin color. As he was originally a misspelling of "Homestar", it is logical that Homsar is somewhat of a badly drawn Homestar. Strong Bad remarks upon this in the email [[for kids]], where he refers to Homsar as a "blue midget Homestar". Homestar himself even calls Homsar "Homestar" in [[looking old]]. In [[Jibblies 2]], he and [[Homestar Runner]] were the only main characters to avoid getting the [[Jibblies]]. Homestar accepted the [[Horrible Painting]]'s invitation to "Come on in here" and Homsar is apparently weird enough to give the Horrible Painting the Jibblies.

===Naming of Other Characters (and Himself)===
Homsar often assigns the other characters, including himself, strange names. This could be because he has forgotten their real names, is confused, or disregards their real names. These "names" are sometimes based on the character's appearance (Strong Sad: That Rhinoceros) or a similar-sounding name (Bubs: Tubbs). Others (Strong Bad: Reggie) hardly make sense. This is assuming that he is speaking to/about these characters and that he is not just disoriented or believes he is talking to someone else. His way of naming may also be used to describe how a character looks at the time, like when he called The Cheat "chocolate cake" when The Cheat was covered in [[whatsit]]. Homsar also thinks up strange names for himself, such as "Homsar, the captain of the gravy train", "the human wedgie", "a friendly reminder", and "a trendy tote bag". Homsar doesn't seem to repeat any of his made-up names, in keeping with his tendency to forget or disregard things or become confused. Homsar has also been named by others, like when Homestar called him "the secret guy".

===Walking===
Whenever Homsar walks, he makes a peculiar fluttery noise. Some other characters also have made this noise.

*[[Li'l Brudder]] (shown in an [[Easter egg]] at the end of [[crying]])
*[[Mr. Shmallow]]
*[[Nibbles]]
*[[The Thnikkaman]] ([[Bubs]]) (when he's tied up as seen in [[cliffhangers]])
*[[Strong Bad]] (when he's scurrying in [[retirement]] , [[looking old]] , and in [[the paper]])
*[[Strong Mad]] (from the email [[virus]])
*2 menus from "[[Flash's 10th Birthday]]".

== Character Video Transcript ==
(Note: To view Homsar's character video, click "Eject" on [[the VCR]], then click the tape.)

''{'''Page Title:''' The Hand-Me-Down Clown!!}'' ''{'''Place:''' [[The Field]]}''

''{The background is upside-down throughout the video, with the blue sky on the bottom of the screen and the green grass at the top.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hi, Wonder Mike! I'm Homsar! The captain of the gravy train.

''{His bowler hat pops up and turns into a railroad engineer's hat.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' Climb aboard!

''{His hat returns to normal.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' I've brought my best foot flowered... Pshoooo!

''{His hat slides down the back of his head, then snaps back at the end of the sound.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' Sure beats breaking up with me. Don't look now! I'm just a friendly reminder. AaAaAaAaAaAaA! AaAaAaAaAaAaA!

''{While screaming for the second time in a row, he spins around the screen backwards two and a half times. He ends up at the top, upside down.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' Think I won the Powerball. ''{His hat pops off, then lands back on his head before the video ends.}''

== Fun Facts ==

*[[Wikipedia:Wonder Mike|Wonder Mike]] is a member of [[Wikipedia:The Sugarhill Gang|The Sugarhill Gang]], famous for the song "Rapper's Delight". In the beginning of "Rapper's Delight", Wonder Mike says "I am Wonder Mike and I'd like to say hello", so Homsar saying "Hi, Wonder Mike" could possibly be a response.
*"Think I won the Powerball" is a reference to the multistate [[Wikipedia: Powerball|Powerball Lottery]], which is known for having large jackpots.
*Homsar's character page is the only one with background music.
*Since the camera is presumably upside-down throughout his character video, Homsar starts the video upside-down and ends it right-side-up; this was more visible during [[April Fools' 2006]]. He "stands on air" again in the long toon [[A Folky Tale]] as an Easter egg.
*Homsar is the only main character with no [[Old-Timey]] counterpart.
*Homsar's coloring is similar to that of the unused character [[Rejected Characters#Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]].
*Homsar is the only male character with an animated girl variation, Modestly Hot Homsar. (See Below)
*The [[font]] on Homsar's shirt is [[Fonts#B|Bauhaus93]].
*Besides [[Homestar Runner]], he was the only one not to get the [[Jibblies]] in [[Jibblies 2]].

== Relationships ==
:''Main article: [[Character Relationships]]''
*[[Strong Sad and Homsar's Relationship]]

== Variations ==
*[[Different Town Character Variations#Modestly Hot Homsar|Modestly Hot Homsar]]

=== [[Halloween Costumes]] ===

*[[wikipedia:J. Wellington Wimpy|Wimpy]] in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*[[IMDB:tt0165798|Ghost Dog]] in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*[[wikipedia:Slash (musician)|Slash]] in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
*Kumar (from [[IMDB:0115734|Bottle Rocket]]) in [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*[[Wikipedia:Tingle|Tingle]] from [[Wikipedia:Legend of Zelda|The Legend of Zelda]] series in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]].
*[[Wikipedia:Ed Grimley|Ed Grimley]] in [[Happy Hallow-day]].
*[http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/The_Typewriter The "Noony Noony Noo" Typewriter Guy] in [[Jibblies 2]].

==See Also==
*[[Homsar Evolution]]
*[[Homsar Other Costumes|Other Costumes]]
*[[Nicknames#Homsar|Nicknames]]
*[[Bowler Hats]]
*[[Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns]]

==Quotes of the Week==
{{qotwstart}}
*{{qotw|"Let's sing a song of Pennzoil!"|[[Fall Float Parade]]|Mirror:homsar_pennzoil.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"AAAaaaAAh'm the human wedgie!"|[[origins]]|Mirror:hom_wedgie.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"I'm the human wedgie!"|[[origins]]|Mirror:hom_wedgie.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Alms for the pudgy? Alms for the pudgy?"|[[Homestar Presents: Presents]]|Mirror:hom1_pudgy.mp3}}
|}

== External Links ==
*[[HR:vcr_homsar.html|watch Homsar's character video]]
*[[HR:vcr_homsar.swf|view the Flash file for Homsar's character video]]

{{Characters|Homsar}}

{{subtitlesLinks|vcr_homsar}}

[[Category:Homestarmy]]
[[Category:Strong Bad Email Spin-offs]]

original

0rion — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:44:15 GMT

0rion: Changed only because the picture shows Original Bubs talking and not Homestar.

{{sbenav|177}}
[[Image:Original.png|thumb|200px|"I can see you from here!"]]
Strong Bad discusses Original Bubs, and how he came to be the one we know and love.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, [[Original Bubs]], {{film|The King of Town}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Senor Cardgage}}, [[Crack Stuntman]], {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Marzipan}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Field]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, September 3, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 3:30

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Gropin' around in the dark, tryin' ta find an email! Da-da-da-blue-got-an-dow!  ''{brings up the email}''

<blockquote class="lappy email"><div>subject: Another Actor</div>
Hails and Horns Strong Bad ,\m/ 
Have you ever been watching your favorite shows and 
sequels, and suddenly realized that your favorite character 
has been unscrupulously replaced with another actor? 
Nicholas & Antonio 
Lansing, Michigan
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad makes a rock-ish scream in place of the emoticon.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Wait, you guys are really asking me that? We do that to you people all the time. There've been like twelve King of Towns. ''{clears screen}'' And are you telling me you've already forgotten about the original Bubs?

''{Cut to Homestar Runner in front of Bubs' Concession Stand. A silhouette resembling Bubs is seen in the foreground.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hi, Original Bubs! How's original business?

''{Cut to in front of the stand. The character behind the counter only vaguely resembles Bubs; his head is dark blue and shaped as though it has hair, both of his eyes are the same shape and size, and his teeth are straight. His body is solid orange and hunched over. He has visible rectangular hands that are the same color as his face. "BY ORIGINAL BUBS" is seen on the stand's sign. Two papers are taped to the stand that read "CHEAP THRILLS!" and "CHEAPER TRICKS!"}''

'''ORIGINAL BUBS:''' ''{his voice is lower-pitched than Bubs's and not as gravelly; openings form in his mouth as he speaks}'' Hey, Homestar. I can see you from here! ''{holds his hands apart}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' That's some great eyesight, Original Bubs!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' But it wasn't all good eyesight and cheap prices!

''{The screen becomes inverted grayscale and spooky music starts. The camera zooms in on Original Bubs.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Behind the scenes lay a thick bubbling pit of crude turmoil!

''{As the colors return to normal, the scene cuts to the King of Town and Original Bubs standing behind a table with an iced tea container, paper cups, a box of [[Swiss Cake Rolls]], and a Tupperware box of a white substance. Original Bubs is pointing at the Tupperware box with an angry expression.}''

'''ORIGINAL BUBS:''' Who ate all the mayo off of my egg salad?! ''{looks to the camera, surprised}'' And how?!

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' It's a proprietary technique I can't reveal!

'''ORIGINAL BUBS:''' This is the first and last straw! I'm outta here, you amateurs!

''{Original Bubs walks away to music. For the first time, his bottom half is revealed. It is gray and similarly-shaped to Bubs's legs, but with tiny legs and pointed in the wrong direction from his upper body. There is no green stripe. He walks offscreen. Cut to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' With Original Bubs' ''{pronounced "Bubs's"}'' future uncertain, we had to come up with some pretty creative ways to write him into stories, so that viewers didn't know he was gone.

''{Cut to Original Bubs' Concession Stand. Homestar and Strong Bad are standing in front of it wearing lederhosen. Behind the counter is a large cardboard box that reads "FRIDGERATE AGAIN".}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, Original Bubs, who is totally behind that refrigerator box, says ''I'' won the yodelling contest.

''{Static briefly appears, and the scene cuts to one with Homestar and Strong Bad, dressed like Canadian Mounties, speaking to a box labeled "DEESH WARSH". The trees have changed to their fall colors.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, Original Bubs, who is totally behind that dishwasher box...

''{More static, cutting to a closeup of Homestar in a poncho and sombrero, with a box that reads "KLEENLOAD" behind him.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ...behind that washer/dryer box...

''{More static. Now Homestar is wearing a Russian police uniform, and the box reads "HOT2O". It is nighttime, and the landscape is covered in snow.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ...that hot water heater box...

''{More static. Homestar wears an African dashiki, and the stand has an upside-down shoe box labeled "[[freshley's]]" with a tower made out of toothpicks on top.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ...behind that... ''{clearly confused}'' toothpick sculpture?

''{More static, cutting to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Once it became apparent that Original Bubs was gone for good, there was an interim period of rotating guest Bubs. Like when talk show hosts have surgery, or go to jail.

''{Cut to the inside of Bubs' Concession Stand. Homestar walks up. The person behind the counter is Senor Cardgage wearing an orange shirt with a green stripe across it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey there, Senator Cardgage Bubs, lemme get a manilla cheese Coke!

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' Oh...

''{Cut to the front of the stand.}''

'''SENOR CARDGAGE:''' I should eat a pony.

''{Homestar flinches with surprise. Static cuts to Strong Bad and The Cheat at the stand, with Crack Stuntman playing Bubs. The sign has "CRACK STUNT" posted over the word "ORIGINAL".}''

'''CRACK STUNTMAN:''' ''{pops up from behind the counter}'' BLAAAAAAAAAAH!! What can I get? For you fine gentlemen?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{annoyed}'' Never mind, Crack Stunt-Bubs.

''{Cut to a closeup.}''

'''CRACK STUNTMAN:''' Oh... I should eat a pony.

''{Strong Bad flinches with surprise.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And don't forget fan favorite,

''{Cut to an onion with Bubs's face drawn on it sitting on the stand's counter.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Onion Bubs.

''{A crowd can be heard cheering, with one voice screaming "Onion Bubs!" over and over. Static cuts back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Finally, we had to settle on a little known Bubs with zero experience. And it's been downhill ever since.

'''BUBS:''' ''{from offscreen}'' Ahem.

''{Cut back to show Bubs looking at Strong Bad angrily. He has the ends of his arms curled up as though they are fists and is waving them menacingly.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, hey, New Bubs.

'''BUBS:''' We're gonna need a new Strong Bad in about two seconds!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{reminiscing}'' Yeah, Original Bubs used to threaten me like that. It just doesn't sound the same coming out of you.

''{Bubs punches Strong Bad in the face four times and puts his hands on his hips.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, Original Bubs used to pummel me senseless like that. It just doesn't sound—

''{Bubs holds up his right "fist" menacingly.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' OKAY OKAY OKAY!!!

'''BUBS:''' You tell these people ''I'm'' the original Buh... b'zuh.

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right! You're the original Bubs!

''{Cut to a closeup of Bubs, no longer angry and looking at the camera. The background turns orange.}''

'''BUBS:''' That's right! ''{The following words appear above him:}'' 100% All Original Bubs! ''{And the following words appear below him:}'' If I had thumbs, I'd be sticking 'em up my armpits right now!

''{He puts the ends of his arms into his armpits as a demonstration. The camera closes out to encircle Bubs's face with a blue background.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover}'' 100% all original Bubs! If he had thumbs, he'd be sticking 'em up his armpits right now! ''{queasy}'' Uhhhhh...

''{Cut to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' But we really do replace people. Take the New Paper, for instance. Come on, New Paper, disappoint me!

''{[[New Paper]] comes down and the entire page falls off the top of the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoop! Ahh, when it comes to disappointin', you never disappoint.

== Easter Eggs ==
*At the end, click on "replace people" to see a field full of King of Town graves, including one for "Onion King of Town".
*At the end, click on the word "downhill" to see a short scene with Homestar Runner and Marzipan.
:''{Open at the Field. Homestar Runner is standing with a can by his feet}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{sigh}''
:''{Homestar Runner kicks the can to the right of screen as Marzipan enters}''
:'''MARZIPAN:''' What's the matter, Homestar?
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I miss Original Bubs.
:'''MARZIPAN:''' Homestar, Strong Bad made all that stuff up.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You can't make up eyesight that good. ''{Marzipan stares flatly}'' He could always see me ''{sobbing}'' from over there.

==Fun Facts ==
===Explanation===
*The ,\m/ emoticon is intended to represent the "[[Wikipedia:Corna|rock horns]]".
*Bubs' line, "If I had thumbs, I'd be sticking 'em up my armpits right now!" is in jest of a gesture sometimes referred to as the "[[Wikipedia:Type of gesture#The "peacock"|peacock]]", in which a person, in smugness or self-pride, hooks his or her thumbs behind his or her [[Wikipedia:Suspenders|suspenders]], regardless of whether they are being worn or not.

=== Trivia ===
*The [[Floppy Disk Container]] reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#SWOTL|SWOTL]]".

===Remarks===
*Onion Bubs has differently-shaped eyes, like the real Bubs, instead of two identical eyes like Original Bubs, on which it was supposed to be based. In a similar vein, Senor Cardgage is wearing a green belt, and Crack Stuntman is wearing a green undershirt; Bubs's green belt is a feature not present on Original Bubs.
*[[New Paper]]'s "Click here to email Strong Bad" link is fully functional until it falls off the screen.
*The plural of "Bubs" should be "Bubses", as it was in [[Sketchbook_2005#SK-2005-02-27|the Sketchbook for February 27, 2005]].
*The plural of "King of Town" should be "Kings of Town" not "King of Towns". This is similar to the pluralization of "attorneys general" or "courts martial".

===Goofs===
[[Image:neck disconnected - original.png|thumb|[[Disconnected]] again?]]
*On the second punch (when Strong Bad's head pops up) his head is for a very brief moment disconnected, mainly around at the right side of the neck.
*At the line "And are you telling me you've already forgotten about the original Bubs?", if you listen closely, you can hear a short "skip" in the sound between the end of the previous sentence, and the beginning of this one. This may be due to [[Matt Chapman]] recording the sentences separately.
**This also happens when Strong Bad says "pretty creative ways to write him into stories", between the words "to" and "write".

===Inside References===
*Homestar's lederhosen are from [[Main Page 2]].
*Original Bubs resembles a preliminary sketch of Bubs as seen in the [[Sketchbook (museum)|Sketchbook in the Museum]].
*The "original" Bubs' Concession Stand sign is similar to the design used in [[A Jumping Jack Contest]], [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] and [[Where's The Cheat?]].
*Bubs saying that he has no thumbs is a reference to his [[Lack_of_Visible_Arms#Other|lack of visible fingers]].
*The premise of this email, that Bubs is a character in what equates to a TV show, is a [[fourth wall break]].
*The back of [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] on this toon is the same one from [[A Jumping Jack Contest]]. Crack Stuntman's line "What can I get for you fine gentlemen?" echoes Bubs' similar line from the same toon the back of the stand came from.

===Real-World References===
*This email spoofs the [[Wikipedia:List of television show casting changes#Named forms of casting change|Darrin syndrome]], when an actor in a series is replaced without explanation, a prominent example being the replacement of [[Wikipedia:Dick York|Dick York]] with [[Wikipedia:Dick Sargent|Dick Sargent]] in the role of Darrin Stevens on ''[[Wikipedia:Bewitched|Bewitched]]''. Similarly to in the email, shortly after York left the show but before Sargent took his place, Darrin's character was frequently referred to but was never present on screen.
*Homestar asking Senor Cardgage for manilla cheese Coke is a play on the various flavored colas, especially [[Wikipedia:Coca-Cola Vanilla|Vanilla Coke]].
*The first scene involving Original Bubs having its colors inverted while zooming in on Original Bubs is a reference to documentary series such as [[Wikipedia:E! True Hollywood Story|E! True Hollywood Story]], which commonly detail the careers of actors who are currently or previously popular. E! True Hollywood Story in particular is known for focusing on scandals and failures in actors' lives.

== External Links ==
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{{Strong Bad Email}}

New Paper

0rion — Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:56:08 GMT

0rion: /* Strong Bad's reactions to New Paper */

[[Image:New_Paper.png|thumb|300px|Paper 2.0]]
'''New Paper''', or The Paper 2.0, is the replacement for [[The Paper|The original Paper]] after its printer broke in the 173rd email, [[the paper]] (just as foretold in the email [[montage]]). Unlike its predecessor, it comes from an inkjet printer capable of printing color. According to [[Strong Bad]], it's still on "trial status". Its first printing sound effect, according to Strong Bad, was "[[onomatopoeia|Heunh heownh heunh heownh vvvvvt eangt clonk-a-donk]]," and it has recently been shortened to "vvvvvt eangt clonk-a-donk" possibly to take less time to end an email.

New paper features a picture on either side of the text "Click here to email Strong Bad strongbad@homestarrunner.com". The pictures are the "@" key from a keyboard and Strong Bad's head in an envelope. Both pictures are in color.

==Strong Bad's reactions to New Paper==
In [[the paper]], Strong Bad dislikes the new sound that it makes and insists that it impress him. New Paper's first attempt at doing so was to print out an [[ASCII Art|ASCII picture]] of a butt made from hyphens and dollar signs, which was judged to be a partial success.

In [[mini-golf]], New Paper comes down early while Strong Bad was still answering the email. He then angrily asks it to go back up. In the end, when New Paper comes down in time, he asks if it's ever not running out of ink.

In [[concert]], Strong Bad further expresses his displeasure with the sound that the New Paper makes, and sticks a floppy disc in it to make more of a scratchy sound.

In [[hygiene]], Strong Bad is disappointed further when New Paper runs a calibration test (though you can still click on it to e-mail Strong Bad), also remarking that it keeps sucking enough to stay interesting.

In [[original]], Strong Bad asks New Paper to disappoint him. It responds by falling off the screen after printing. Strong Bad comments that when it comes to disappointing, New Paper never disappoints.

[[Category:Items]][[Category:Pseudocharacters]]

New Paper

0rion — Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:54:47 GMT

0rion: /* Strong Bad's reactions to New Paper */ Rinku.

[[Image:New_Paper.png|thumb|300px|Paper 2.0]]
'''New Paper''', or The Paper 2.0, is the replacement for [[The Paper|The original Paper]] after its printer broke in the 173rd email, [[the paper]] (just as foretold in the email [[montage]]). Unlike its predecessor, it comes from an inkjet printer capable of printing color. According to [[Strong Bad]], it's still on "trial status". Its first printing sound effect, according to Strong Bad, was "[[onomatopoeia|Heunh heownh heunh heownh vvvvvt eangt clonk-a-donk]]," and it has recently been shortened to "vvvvvt eangt clonk-a-donk" possibly to take less time to end an email.

New paper features a picture on either side of the text "Click here to email Strong Bad strongbad@homestarrunner.com". The pictures are the "@" key from a keyboard and Strong Bad's head in an envelope. Both pictures are in color.

==Strong Bad's reactions to New Paper==
In [[the paper]], Strong Bad dislikes the new sound that it makes and insists that it impress him. New Paper's first attempt at doing so was to print out an [[ASCII Art|ASCII picture]] of a butt made from hyphens and dollar signs, which was judged to be a partial success.

In [[mini-golf]], New Paper comes down early while Strong Bad was still answering the email. He then angrily asks it to go back up. In the end, when New Paper comes down in time, he asks if it's ever not running out of ink.

In [[concert]], Strong Bad further expresses his displeasure with the sound that the New Paper makes, and sticks a floppy disc in it to make more of a scratchy sound.

In [[hygiene]], Strong Bad is disappointed further when New Paper runs a calibration test (though you can still click on it to e-mail Strong Bad), also remarking that it keeps sucking enough to stay interesting.

In [[original]], Strong Bad asks it to disappoint him. It responds by falling off the screen after printing.

[[Category:Items]][[Category:Pseudocharacters]]

New Paper

0rion — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 07:28:53 GMT

0rion: Since this is a list, I figured it should be a separate section.

[[Image:New_Paper.png|thumb|300px|Paper 2.0]]
'''New Paper''', or The Paper 2.0, is the replacement for [[The Paper|The original Paper]] after its printer broke in the email [[the paper]] (just as foretold in the email [[montage]]). Unlike its predecessor, it comes from an inkjet printer capable of printing color. [[Strong Bad]] dislikes the new sound that it makes and insists that it impress him. New Paper's first attempt at doing so was to print out an [[ASCII Art|ASCII picture]] of a butt made from hyphens and dollar signs, which was judged to be a partial success. According to Strong Bad, it's still on "trial status". Its first printing sound effect, according to Strong Bad, was "[[onomatopoeia|Heunh heownh heunh heownh vvvvvt eangt clonk-a-donk]]," and it has recently been shortened to "vvvvvt eangt clonk-a-donk" possibly to take less time to end an email.

New paper features a picture on either side of the text "Click here to email Strong Bad strongbad@homestarrunner.com". The pictures are the "@" key from a keyboard and Strong Bad's head in an envelope. Both pictures are in color.

=Strong Bad's reactions to New Paper=

In [[mini-golf]], New Paper comes down early while Strong Bad was still writing the email. He then angrily asks it to go back up. In the end, when New Paper comes down in time, he asks if it's ever not running out of ink.

In [[concert]], Strong Bad further expresses his displeasure with the sound that the New Paper makes, and sticks a floppy disc in it to make more of a scratchy sound.

In [[hygiene]], Strong Bad is disappointed further when New Paper runs a calibration test (though you can still click on it to e-mail Strong Bad), also remarking that it keeps sucking enough to stay interesting.

[[Category: Items]][[Category: Pseudocharacters]]

Where's an Egg?

0rion — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 03:37:16 GMT

0rion: /* Inside References */ You're going to have to sell this to me a lot more on a game with intentionally bad graphics.

{{vgamenav|wheresanegg|50k Racewalker|Duck Guardian One}}

[[Image:wheresanegg.PNG|thumb|A renegade cop with nothing to lose and an egg on his mind.]]
[[Image:Where'sAnEggboxart.png‎|thumb|Where's an Egg? box art. Где – Яйцо?]]
''"In this hard-bolied  adventure game, you must help the Boise police force find a missing egg. Not in Mancuso's garage? Try Brodermaker's gymbag. Everyone's a suspect when 'Where's an Egg?' is the game that you are playing. And that's this game!!"'' -[[Videlectrix]]

'''Where's an Egg?''' is a game by [[Videlectrix]].

'''Date:''' Monday, July 16, 2007

'''Page Title:''' Where's an Egg?

==Instructions==
The object of the game is to find an egg that one of the suspects is hiding. The task is a variation on the [[Wikipedia:Knights and Knaves|Knights and Knaves]] puzzle, in which suspects either always lie or always tell the truth. After you think you know who or where an egg is, you go to that location and shoot the suspect, who will give up an egg if you have guessed correctly.

After clicking on the title screen, you are presented with several locations in a city. Clicking on the thumbnails will take you to those locations, at which you will encounter a suspect with an item. From the menu at the bottom of the screen, you can choose one of any of the items or suspects you've encountered. When you choose an item, the suspect will tell you the location where that item can be found or the suspect who has it. When you choose a suspect from your menu, the character on the screen will tell you where that suspect can be found or what item they have. Once again, they may or may not be telling the truth.

There are three other notable replies you may receive. If you ask a suspect about himself or about the items he carries, he will respond with a [[Wikipedia:smiley|smiley face]]. If you ask a suspect about anything after shooting him, he will respond with a red cross. Also, if you ask a suspect about an egg and he replies with a question mark, he does not have any information about the location of an egg.

== Strategy ==
Since a given suspect either always lies or always tells the truth, their reply about the location of an egg can be tested by asking them questions to which you know the answer. For example, if they give you information about an egg, you can ask them about an item and verify that the location or suspect with which they reply indeed corresponds to that item. If the answer they give is correct, then the location of an egg that they give is correct as well.

The above method can be modified by first asking about the first person or item you have seen, then if the suspect answers correctly, ask about an egg. Continue asking all the suspects the same question until you find a person who gives a correct answer and knows about an egg. If none are found, revisit your first person and ask about an egg. Then simply find the culprit and shoot them.

In some cases, a lying suspect may reveal themselves as such by giving the same answer for two different questions (e.g., suggesting that two different characters have a potted plant) or, due to a programming error, even answering with their own face when questioned about a different item.

Another strategy is to ask every suspect the location of an egg until you have two replies that agree. In that case, it is likely, though not certain, that the suspect they incriminate indeed has an egg.

In order to keep accurate track of which person matches which object, just quickly visit all of the locations before asking anyone a question. This will cause each person and their object to appear in the same order at the bottom of the screen. Once your have visited all locations, start asking each person where the egg is. Once you find someone who replies, figure out if they are a truth-teller or a liar by seeing if their responses properly match up people to their object. If they are a truth-teller, move on to asking about the egg. If they tell the truth, you know who has the egg.

However, one haphazard strategy is to simply shoot three random people. This gives a 1 in 3 chance of winning, with no real effort.

== Suspects, locations, and items ==
Suspects, locations, and items are randomly assigned for each game.
===Suspects===
<gallery>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Blonde Woman.png | <center>Blonde woman</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Blue Hat.png | <center>Blue hat man</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Maid.png | <center>Butcher</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Butler.png | <center>Butler</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - John.png | <center>[[John McEnroe]]</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Mechanic.png | <center>Mechanic </center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Old Lady.png | <center>Old Woman</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Kid Speedy.png | <center>Red-haired boy</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Suspects - Red Hat.png | <center>Red hat man</center>
</gallery>

===Locations===
<gallery>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Aquarium.png | <center>Aquarium</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Theater.png | <center>Art museum</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Museum.png | <center>Bank</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Beach.png | <center>Beach</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Pier.png | <center> Bridge</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - City.png | <center> City</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Desert.png | <center> Desert</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Siberia.png | <center> Icy mountains</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Locations - Forest.png | <center> Park</center>
</gallery>
===Items===
<gallery>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Egg.png | <center>An [[egg]]</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Beer.png | <center>[[Alcohol|Beer]]</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Bomb.png | <center>Bomb</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Cat.png | <center>Cat</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Duffel.png | <center>Gym bag</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Pencil.png | <center>Pencil</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Plant.png | <center>Potted plant</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Slingshot.png | <center>Slingshot</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Strawberry.png | <center>Strawberry</center>
Image:Where's an Egg - Items - Wrench.png | <center>Wrench</center>
</gallery>

== Endings ==
[[Image:Where's an egg loose screen.PNG|thumb|Lose screen]]
If you run out of time or shoot three characters who do not have an egg, the game ends. The character who did have an egg is shown running with it through the area they were in, and the main character is shown in the icy mountains wearing prison clothes and a ball-and-chain. He quickly turns into a skeleton.

[[Image:Where's an egg win screen.PNG|thumb|left|Win screen]]
If you successfully shoot the character who has an egg, a uniformed man (probably [[Wikipedia:Joseph Stalin|Stalin]]) awards you with a badge in front of [[Wikipedia:Lenin's Mausoleum|Lenin's Mausoleum]]. The screen pans up to the sky, where fireworks shoot off. If the game was completed with enough time left on the clock, different spaceships fly through the sky:
*901–940 seconds left — one spaceship
*941–970 seconds left — two spaceships
*971 or more seconds left — three spaceships, the last of which is exited by a cosmonaut

{{clear}}

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*This game was released more than two and a half years after its description was featured on the Videlectrix website. The [[main page message]] announcing its release read: '''new' videlectrix game!''
*The language used in the game is [[wikipedia:Russian language|Russian]], and is understandable to a native speaker, although there are various grammatical and stylistic errors (see [[#Translations|Translation section]]).
*After shooting someone who does not have an egg, you can still question them and they will reply with the symbol for the [[Wikipedia:International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement|Red Cross]] (indicating they require medical attention). The Red Cross has recently been [http://www.redcross.ca/article.asp?id=016637&tid=001 trying to stop game creators from using their logo this way].
*In every game, there are either three or four suspects who tell the truth, and either three or four suspects who will give an answer when asked about an egg. Three is more common in both cases. 
*Each suspect has a theme song that plays when you visit them.
**If a suspect talks about another person, that person's theme plays in the right speaker.
**If you ask about another person, that person's theme plays in the left speaker.
**If you kill a suspect, their theme song volume is lowered.
**The victory music is all of the suspects' themes played on top of each other.
*Where's an Egg? is shown on a [[Floppy Disk Container|floppy disk]] in the introductions for [[strongbad_email.exe]] Discs [[strongbad_email.exe Disc Three|Three]] and [[strongbad_email.exe Disc Five|Five]].

===Remarks===
[[Image:Eggpage2.jpg|thumb|Page 13 of the instruction manual]]
*A [[Videlectrix:eggction.html|page of the manual]] was also made available at the same time as the game was released.
*Although the Videlectrix description suggests that an egg may be in "Mancuso's garage", a garage is not one of the locations in the game, although there is a mechanic.

===Goofs===
*For the first second of the game, the timer reads 000, when its true value is 999. One second later, it changes to 998. If you manage to win in that first second, it will read 999 on the victory screen.
*The game has a check to prevent liars from replying with their own picture, item, or location, but a programming error allows them to answer with their own picture when questioned about an item that isn't theirs.

===Glitches===
*If you shoot the last bullet at the wrong person right before time is up, when the clock runs to 000, you will be presented with a win screen with the perpetrator sliding across the screen, plus the lose screen in Siberia, then presented with a medal.

===Inside References===
*This is another mention of [[eggs]] and [[alcohol]].
*The main character wields a [[gun]].
*All of the suspects [[Lack of Visible Arms|lack visible arms]].
*[[Some Type of Online Auction]] was previously used to sell a half-eaten breakfast burrito in [[english paper]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Boise, Idaho|Boise]] is the capital city of the US state [[Wikipedia:Idaho|Idaho]].
*Brodermaker is a reference to video game company [[Wikipedia:Brøderbund|Brøderbund]], makers of the [[Wikipedia:Carmen Sandiego|Carmen Sandiego]] games.
**This game is also very similar, in some aspects, to the early Carmen Sandiego games.
*The music at the beginning of the game accompanying the Videlectrix logo is from the traditional Russian [[Wikipedia:The Volga Boatmen's Song|Song of the Volga Boatmen]].
*The three spacecraft that fly across the screen in the ending sequence are [[Wikipedia:Sputnik 1|Sputnik 1]], [[Wikipedia:Vostok 1|Vostok 1]], and [[Wikipedia:Voskhod 2|Voskhod 2]], commemorating three "firsts" of the Russian space program: the first artificial satellite, the [[Wikipedia:Yuri Gagarin|first man in space]], and the [[Wikipedia:Aleksei Leonov|first spacewalk]], respectively.
**The congratulation scene is reminiscent of the [[Wikipedia:Game_Boy|Game Boy]] and [[Wikipedia:NES|NES]] versions of [[Wikipedia:Tetris|Tetris]] (A game that is famous for having come out of Russia), in which the player was shown rocket and shuttle launches of spacecraft at the end of a game depending on how well the player did.
*Gameplay bears certain superficial similarities to the board game [[Wikipedia:Cluedo|Clue]], being a [[Wikipedia:Whodunit|whodunit]] wherein a specific accusation must be formulated from a set of distinct suspects, items and locations.
*The scene where the main character is stuck in icy mountains with a ball and chain is a reference to the old Russian practice of [[Wikipedia:Gulag|exiling criminals]] to [[Wikipedia:Siberia|Siberia]], which is a cold, mountainous region of Russia.

===Translations===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Location !! Message !! Transliteration !! Translation !! Notes
|-
| Loading screen || телевизионный электрический || televizzionniy elektricheskii || Videlectrix || ''Literally:'' "televisual electric"
|-
| Title || Где – Яйцо? || Gde Yaitso? || Where's an egg? || Russian has no article, so it is impossible to make a distinction between "the egg" and "an egg" and the title could refer to either. The dash in the title is incorrect; such a dash is only used to separate a predicate from a noun phrase (an action from an object) instead of the present tense of the verb "to be", which does not exist in Russian.
|-
| Inscription above the columns of the gray building || берег || Bereg || Bank || The word has the sense of "riverbank", as opposed to a financial service institution, which would be "банк" (Bank).
|-
| When you discover who had an egg || виновник || vinovnik || criminal ''or'' guilty person ||
|-
| rowspan="2" | When you win the game || поздравление || pozdravlenie || congratulations || Although English speakers often use the noun "Congratulations," a Russian would probably have used a verb: "I congratulate you with your victory." The verb is often dropped entirely from such phrases, leaving only "with your victory."
|-
| ЛЕНИН || LENIN || [[Wikipedia:Vladimir Lenin|Lenin]] || An entrance to [[Wikipedia:Lenin's Mausoleum|Lenin's Mausoleum]]
|-
| rowspan="2" | When you lose || гулаг || gulag || [[Wikipedia:Gulag|Gulag]] || The name given to the Soviet labor camps
|-
| игра законченный || igra zakonchenniy || game over || This phrase is incorrect due to misuse of gender (nouns have genders in Russian). Grammatically correct phrase would read "игра закончена" (igra zakonchena).
|}

==External Links==
*[[Videlectrix:wheresanegg.html|Play Where's an Egg?]]
*[[Videlectrix:egg7.swf|Play Where's an Egg? (Flash file)]]
*[[Videlectrix:eggction.html|View the auction for the instructions]]
*[[Forum:11947|forum thread re: "Where's An Egg?"]]
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[[Category:Videlectrix Games]]

mini-golf

0rion — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:31:08 GMT

0rion: /* Remarks */

{{sbenav|174}}
[[Image:Mini-golf.png|thumb|200px|The madness begins.]]

A trip to the Sweet Puttin' Cakes mini-golf course followed by madness.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Eh! Steve!}}, {{film|Drive-Thru Whale}}, {{film|Sherlock}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|The Worm}}, {{film|Keyboard Strong Bad}}, {{film|The Wheelchair}}, {{film|Ready For Primetime}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|Homsar}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Sweet Puttin' Cakes]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, August 13, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 4:27

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' E-mail! I'm so in love with you! It's kind of inappropriate!

<blockquote class="lappy email"><div>
subject: miniature golf course</div>
Helllooooooo Strongbad, 
I was wondering if Strongbadia had a miniature golf 
course because I think it would be cool if Strongbadia 
had a miniature golf course. 
Hoping to play the Strongbadia miniature golf course soon, 
Somebody noone cares about in IA
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad pronounces "Helllooooooo" as "Hell-la-la-la-la-looooo" and adds "Also known as, Everyone in Iowa" at the end of the e-mail}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' What, are you getting paid everytime you say the words 'miniature golf course?' Because I'd, miniature golf course, like to get in on that ac-miniature golf course-tion.

''{clears screen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Of, miniature golf course, course, I don't sell out for cheap. I usually get ''{typing in orange}'' Kozmik Bowling ''{cha-ching sound from a cash register; continues typing normally}'' 50 bucks everytime I ''{typing in red}'' That Paintball Place Down the Street ''{cha-ching sound; typing normally}'' mention some kind of ''{typing in blue}'' Waterslide Dan's MoistWorld ''{cha-ching sound; typing normally}'' fun-time emporium.

''{[[New Paper]] comes down.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, no, no! Not now! Did that sound like I was done? Get back up there!

''{New Paper goes back up. Strong Bad clears the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Anyways, what were we talking about? Oh yeah, mini-golf. Strong Badia doesn't have a place of its own, so when we need to get our tiny golf on, we usually head over to...

''{Cut to a sign that reads "Sweet Puttin' Cakes, Puttiature Golf-Golf".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Sweet Puttin' Cakes.

''{Zoom out to reveal a Sweet Cuppin' Cakes based area. Multiple miniature golf holes are scattered around the sign. Eh! Steve! stands on top of a large golf ball holding a putter.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And yes, it's every bit as messed up as the cartoon on which it's based. In fact, we don't even know how to get there.

''{Zoom in to three golf balls bouncing on a piece of turf. Slow pan across the hole to a metal version of Sherlock lying on the hole with his mouth open.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' It's just like, one minute you're thinking about miniature golf...

''{Cut to Strong Bad's basement. The Cheat and Strong Bad are lying on the couch. The remote lies near The Cheat's feet.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You know what I love? The smell of that rubber handle on the putters, that you know like a thousand other...

''{The audio track slows ''way'' down. Zoom in to Strong Bad's Mouth.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...people have touched.

''{The screen fades to black.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ...and the next minute, you're there.

''{Cut back to Sweet Puttin' Cakes. The Cheat and Strong Bad appear in the middle of the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{simultaneously} {impressed The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Your descent into madness begins on the first hole. The Wormhole.

''{Cut to Homestar standing in a circular piece of turf holding a putter. A ball is at his feet. Off to the right is the metal version of Sherlock. Homestar putts the ball. The ball rolls towards the hole when suddenly the hole moves to the right. Zoom in on the hole. The Worm pops up.}''

'''THE WORM:''' Get your own.

''{The Worm bites into the golf ball. Another Worm comes out of the ball and eats the first. They then travel in a circle down the hole and back up out of the ball. Zoom out to Homestar contemplating what's happening.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Umm, I'm gonna say that's a birdie. ''{Homestar bends over and squints at the worms}'' Yep. Definitely a birdie. ''{Homestar bends over and squints again}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Things calm down a little bit for the Eh!th, Steve! hole.

''{Cut to a hole where Eh! Steve! is seen moving his mouth up and down, revealing a hole every time it opens, and making a quiet "ahh" sound every time it opens or closes. Strong Bad walks in from the bottom of the screen. Cut to view of Strong Bad and The Cheat at the beginning of the hole. Strong Bad is on the starting mat. Homestar is still visible in the background, examining the loop of worms. Zoom in on Strong Bad. An arm similar to Strong Bad's reaches in from the right side of the screen and taps Strong Bad on the shoulder.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What?

''{Cut to view of Keyboard Strong Bad. Keyboard Strong Bad starts playing music and jumping up and down. Cut back to view of the beginning of the hole with The Cheat, Strong Bad, and Keyboard Strong Bad in view.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, geez! I didn't know you were ahead of us! No need to play the whole demo, man!

''{Cut to view of the Eh! Steve! hole. Strong Bad exits the bottom and Keyboard Strong Bad enters. Keyboard Strong Bad putts a hole in one.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Of course, if you sink the putt, you get rewarded with that heavenly sound!

'''EH! STEVE!:''' EH! STEVE!

''{A tile opens up, revealing The Wheelchair.}''

'''THE WHEELCHAIR:''' ROOTY ROO ROO AND A FROOTY FROOO!

''{The screen dims slightly.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' The place isn't above some of the usual mini-golf transgressions though.

''{Cut to a white statue of The Wheelchair with a sign reading "Statch!" next to it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Like the infamous "statue hole".

''{Zoom out to reveal The Cheat and Strong Bad at the beginning of a hole.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{flatly}'' Oh. Watch out, The Cheat. There is a statue of a wheelchair outside the field of play, several feet away.

''{Zoom back in to the statue.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Not moving at all. Just, statuing. On top of that, the hole is about one foot from the tee. ''{tilt down to reveal so}'' Isn't the fun, almost, too much, to take?

''{The screen dims slightly as The Cheat putts and misses.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And yes, even in this infernal place, you can't escape the blue family recreation water!

''{Cut to a shot of Ready for Primetime with water flowing from its mouth into a lake. Slowly zoom out to reveal a hole with a bridge over the lake. Bumps in the course keep appearing and disappearing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That stuff's just begging for kids to either drink it, or pee in it.

''{A ball is putted across the course and stops near the bumps. A bump appears under it, knocking it into the water.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Or worse, ''{queasy}'' booooooooooooth.

''{Zoom back in to Ready for Primetime. On its right side black letters reading "BOTH" slowly crawl down the screen into the lake. Homestar pops up from underwater, slightly tinged blue}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whoo! I didn't find my ball, but I did see some exotic marine life!

''{Strong Bad walks in from the top right part of the screen}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Homestar, all that's down there is cigarette butts.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' And... a bra. ''{holds up a brassiere}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Sweet! ''{gives the thumbs up sign}''

''{Cut to Coach Z, on a circular hole with a rocky wall, holding a putter with a red golf ball at his feet. Zoom out to reveal it's in the middle of space.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The 18th hole puts a unique twist on the standard bottomless-hole-that-sucks-your-golf-ball-away-forever, hole.

''{Coach Z putts. The ball falls into the hole and drops down offscreen then falls from the top of the screen onto Coach Z's head. The ball bounces off his head and lands at his feet. Zoom in on Coach Z's head.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oh, I guess I forgort to port!

''{Coach Z putts again. The ball again falls into the hole and down onto Coach Z's head. The ball bounces off his head and lands at his feet}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oh, I guess I forgat to prat!

''{Once again, Coach Z putts, and the cycle repeats}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oh! Fork of a pork!

''{Coach Z putts once again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' This will go on forever if you let it. In fact, ''{cut back to Sweet Puttin' Cakes}'' the only way we've found to ''leave'' Sweet Puttin' Cakes, ''{Strong Bad and The Cheat enter from opposite sides of the screen}'' is to simply will yourself back into reality.

''{Strong Bad and The Cheat both scrunch their faces and grunt. Cut back to the couch. Both The Cheat and Strong Bad appear on the couch exactly how they were before}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{speaking backwards}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{surprised The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' (shakes head) Whoa, that was weird. ''{zoom in on Strong Bad}'' My mouth tastes like backwards.

''{Cut to The Cheat.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Your mouth tastes like what?

''{The Cheat open his mouth, revealing some of the water from Sweet Puttin' Cakes. Zoom out to show the full couch}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat! You didn't!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{shrugs} {apologetic The Cheat noises}''

''{New Paper comes down.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' There you go! See? ''That'' was a punchline! And, another thing. Are you ever ''not'' running out of ink?

== Easter Eggs ==
[[Image:Drive-Thru Putt Place.png|thumb|"Homsar, is that you?"]]
*Click on "Kozmik Bowling", "That Paintball Place Down the Street", and "Waterslide Dan's Moistworld" to see scorecards from each of the establishments.
*At the end, click the remote to see a scene at the Drive-Thru Whale hole.
:''{Strong Bad is arguing with the Drive-Thru Whale on a green with no apparent hole}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{irritated}'' No, the hole. Where is the hole?
:'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' Pour gravel on your stump please, ma'am.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Did you just tell my mom to pour gravel on her stump?
:'''DRIVE-THRU WHALE:''' Cave your brown.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Cave my brown? Homsar, is that you?
:''{Homsar floats by in the background}''
:'''HOMSAR:''' AaAaAaAaA! Don't count on it, monster man!

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===
*In golf, par refers to the number of strokes expected to complete a hole.
*A birdie is one stroke under par.
*1010 = 10,000,000,000, or 10 billion.
*∞ is the sign for [[Wikipedia:Infinity|infinity]].
*A [[Wikipedia:Wormhole|wormhole]] is an occurrence in theoretical physics in which two different points in space-time are connected to one another through a tunnel.
*The worm biting itself alludes to [[Wikipedia:Ouroboros|Ouroboros]] (A single snake that devours itself, symbolizing the concept of cyclicality or philosophical perennialism).
*"Kommunist" refers to [[Wikipedia: Communism|Communism]].
*Par2O refers to [[Wikipedia:water (molecule)|H2O]], the molecular formula for water.
* Kosmik (or Cosmic) Bowling is a promotion where fluorescent pins, black lights, and loud music are used on the lanes.

===Trivia===
*Strong Bad's backwards speech as he and The Cheat return are the words "thousand other people have touched" from the beginning (although not slowed as much).

===Remarks===
* In the beginning, the Drive-Thru Whale putting surface is seen with several holes, but in the Easter egg, all the holes are gone.
* All characters putt right-handed. Also, when Coach Z putts, his right hand is above his left hand, which is reversed from the proper form for right-handed putting (right hand below left hand).
* There is no Back button at the end of the email.
* When [[New Paper]] appears the first time, the "Click Here to Email Strong Bad" link is fully functional.
**The New Paper drops much more quickly than it did in [[the paper]].

===Inside References===
*The way Strong Bad pronounces the hello at the beginning is similar to his lalalalalalalaaaa's in [[retirement]].
*One of the players in the bowling scorecard easter egg is named [[Dan]].
**Strong Bad also mentions "Waterslide Dan's Moistworld" for yet another reference to the name "Dan".
* [[Rumble Red]] appears on the <s>Kommunist</s>Kozmik Bowling scorecard.
*Strong Bad saying his mouth tastes like backwards could be a reference to the Strong Bad Email [[morning routine]], where he said his mouth tastes like emails.
*The black sludge that enters the water appears similar to the blackness that appeared when Coach Z removed his bathing suit in [[underlings]].
*Homestar finds a [[underwear|bra]] in the lake.
*The cigarette butts Strong Bad claims to have found could reference [[smoking]].
*Strong Bad previously spoke backwards in [[rock opera]].

===Real World References===
* The "Sweet Puttin' Cakes, Puttiature Golf-Golf" sign refers to the fact that minigolf is also known as [[Wikipedia: Putt-Putt Fun Centers|putt-putt]].
*Many Mini-Golf courses have water that is dyed blue.
*On many mini-golf courses, after the ball is sunk in the 18th (final) hole, it goes into a chest that only golf course employees can open.

== External Links ==
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{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]]

Quality Time with Cardboard Homestar

0rion — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 23:07:51 GMT

0rion: /* Remarks */ They can't be "last seen"

{{toonnav|Shorts|qualitytime|Ever and More!|Strong Bad Sings}}
[[Image:Quality Time.png|thumb|"Seriously, Marzipan, how do you get so smart?"]]

While Homestar is on "vacation", Marzipan spends some quality time with his cardboard double.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Marzipan}}, [[Cardboard Homestar]], {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, [[Cardboard Marzipan]] (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Marzipan's House]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]], [[The Field]] (with fence), [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]

'''Date:''' Tuesday, August 7th, 2007

'''Page title:''' Cut her some FLAX!

'''Running time:''' 1:48

== Transcript ==

''{Marzipan is sitting on her sofa holding a book called "Algonquin Stew".}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' You know, Homestar, I disagree with what you said about the underlying theme of Chapter 8 in this book. It's really not about man's struggle with double-sided tape. It's a metaphor for the Mesopotamian social hierarchy during the Bronze Age.

''{Shift view to see a cardboard cutout of Homestar wearing glasses and with a butterfly instead of a propeller on his cap. Marzipan supplies the cutout's voice, imitating Homestar's. When she does, she gains a heavy brow and an underbite.}''

'''CARDBOARD HOMESTAR:''' Seriously, Marzipan, how do you get so smart? Don't you see you are a smart?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Well thanks, Homestar. I guess I am kind of smart.

''{Title screen: "Quality Time with Cardboard Homestar"}''

''{Cut to a scene in Marshmallow's Last Stand. Strong Sad is playing violin and has a [[mustache]], and Cardboard Homestar has a green tie wrapped around where his neck is drawn.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oh, thank you, Homestar. This is so romantic.

'''CARDBOARD HOMESTAR:''' You are so smart, Marzy-pan.

''{Scene of Marzipan adding flaxseed oil to something in a bowl in her kitchen.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' And I always like to add a drop of flaxseed oil. Gotta get those Omega-3s in!

'''CARDBOARD HOMESTAR:''' Marzipan, you're so smart.

''{Scene of Marzipan playing guitar and singing in the Field.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Marshmallows are fluffy; 

'''CARDBOARD HOMESTAR:''' ''{also singing}'' You are so smart Marzipan.

''{Marzipan is at Bubs' Concession Stand. Bubs puts a carton of eggs on the counter.}''

'''BUBS:''' There you go, Marzipan! My last batch of organic batteries.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Thanks, Bubs!

'''CARDBOARD HOMESTAR:''' You shop so smart, Marzipan.

'''BUBS:''' Yeah. When is ol' Homestar gettin' back from vacation?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oh, um, he, um, decided to stay for a couple more days. ''{Smiles nervously}'' Yeah, couple more days, yeah. ''{Smiles nervously again}''

''{Cut to Marzipan's living room. Her closet door is boarded shut. Homestar's voice comes from within.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Marzipan? Marzipan? Can you let me out now? I'm pretty sure there's no cake in here. It's been about three weeks now, and you'd think I would have found it. All I've been able to find in here is some coats, and a broom. Unless it's a broomcake! Is it a broomcake? Ooh, let's try this broomcake. ''{Noises of labored eating.} {Weakly}'' Uh, Marzipan? This is a really bad broomcake. ''{With renewed vigor}'' Ptooey! Can you let me out, please? Oh, wait—coatcake?

''{The scene goes black and "end" appears.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{sing-song}'' Maybe it's a coatcake!

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on the "e" in "end" to see a short scene with both cardboard characters.
*:''{Cardboard Homestar and Cardboard Marzipan are sitting on Marzipan's couch. Homestar and Marzipan can be seen barely onscreen, manipulating the characters}''
*:'''CARDBOARD MARZIPAN:''' And then I told him there was cake in the closet. And that's how I got some peace and quiet for three weeks.
*:'''CARDBOARD HOMESTAR:''' Marzipan, you're so smart.

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===

*The [[Wikipedia:Algonquin|Algonquins]] are a Native American tribe centered in [[Wikipedia:Quebec|Quebec]].
*[[Wikipedia:Mesopotamia|Mesopotamia]] refers to the region now known as modern Iraq, and some of the surrounding countries. The name comes from the Greek words "between" and "river", referring to the basins of the Euphrates and the Tigris rivers and the area in between.
*The [[Wikipedia:Bronze Age|Bronze Age]] is a period of prehistoric society following the [[Wikipedia:Stone Age|Stone Age]], when working with copper and tin was the most advanced form of metalwork.
*[[Wikipedia:Linseed oil|Flax seed oil]] is vegetable oil made using the seeds of the [[Wikipedia:flax|flax]] plant.
**Flax seed oil is rich in [[Wikipedia:Omega-3 fatty acid|Omega-3 fatty acid]]s, which has certain [[Wikipedia:Omega-3 fatty acid#Health benefits|health benefits]].
*Homestar having been locked in a closet for three weeks refers to the fact that [[homestarrunner.com]] hadn't had many big updates for the past three weeks before this toon was released so Matt and [[Jackie Chapman|Jackie]] could take care of their new [[H*R.com updates 2007#Monday, July 2, 2007|baby]].
*The "organic batteries" refers to [[Wikipedia: organic food|organic food]], which is supposed to lack toxic [[Wikipedia: pesticide|pesticides]]

===Remarks===
[[Image:Regulareyes_small.png|thumb|right|100px|Regular Eyed Cardboard Homestar]]
*In the [[TV Time Toons Menu]]'s [[HR:menuswfs/menu_qualitytime.swf|preview]], Cardboard Homestar's eyes are shaped like Homestar's normal eyes and have no glasses.
*Marzipan's teeth were also seen in [[Cool Things]] and [[coloring]].

===Inside References===
*Marzipan pretending Homestar is on vacation refers to [[Happy Fireworks]], when Marzipan was on vacation and Homestar invented Cardboard Marzipan as a replacement.
*The "organic batteries" that Bubs gives Marzipan are really only a carton of [[eggs]].

== External links ==
*[[HR:qualitytime.html|watch "Quality Time"]]
*[[HR:qualitytime.swf|view the Flash file for "Quality Time"]]
*[[Forum:12052|forum thread re: "Quality Time"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|qualitytime}}
[[Category:Shorts]]

User:DorianGray/Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns

0rion — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:01:13 GMT

0rion: /* Homsar's Speech in Chronological Order */ This is all pretty much implied by the article itself, and this particular section needs condensation.

'''Homsar's speech patterns''' are quite unusual, and many believe that his strange way of speaking is the result of a mental disorder such as [[Wikipedia:Word salad (mental health)|word salad]], a condition in which sentence structure and grammar are intact, but individual words are picked at random and have no particular meaning. This article pulls together all of the things [[Homsar]] has said since his introduction in the [[Homestar Runner universe]], identifies the context of each line, and determines whether or not the line qualifies as a word salad.

== Homsar's Speech in Chronological Order ==

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 width="100%" style="border-collapse:collapse"
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! Quote !! Toon !! Context !! Comments
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| "Uhdyeah, what ees it, Strong Bayaad!"
| Email [[homsar]] (2001)
| Responding to [[Strong Bad]], who had just gotten his attention.
| This is a simple greeting.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "DaAAahhh, hello, [[Marzipan|Marzypa-yun]]. It's Homsar! Dahhh, I was just calling to thank you for the flowers you sent me while I was in the hospital. Daahh, I'm feeling much better now, but I still can't feel my leeegs. Okay, bye-dee-bye."
| [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]] (Dec. 2001/Jan. 2002)
| Homsar has presumably recovered from having the [[Heavy Lourde]] dropped on him.
| Homsar speaks in basically perfect (if exaggerated) English in this message.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
|
*"I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for some candy today!"
*"YaAaAaAh, I'm the original ladies' man!"
*"If you give me a treat, make sure that it's sweet, and I'll eeeat iiiiiit..."
*"Oh no, I think this is my favorite!"
| [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] (Oct. 27, 2001)
| Homsar's intro, and then his lines after being handed Shavin' Creem, black and orange taffy, and a wrench, respectively.
| His intro is a paraphrasing of the catch phrase of [[Wikipedia:J. Wellington Wimpy|Wimpy]], the character from the [[Wikipedia:Popeye|Popeye]] cartoons (who he is dressed as), namely "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today." His responses to the treats are strange, but not completely random.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
|
*"Oh no! You shanked my Jengaship!"
*"AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hey, Tubbs! I just lost my Jengajam."
| [[Where's The Cheat?]] (Feb. 25, 2002)
| Homsar is playing Connect Four with [[Strong Sad]], then speaks to [[Bubs]] when he enters the room.
| Homsar's line does reference two games, although not the one he is actually playing, Connect Four, as Strong Sad observes. He doesn't quite get Bubs' name right.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "AaAaAaAaAaAaA!!! I'm saving the best for last!"
| Email [[your friends]] (Oct. 14, 2002)
| During the montage, Strong Bad buries Homsar and covers him with scorpions, which begin to crawl into his mouth.
| It is debatable whether Homsar's phrase has any connection to his predicament. If it is connected, it would seem to imply that he enjoys eating scorpions.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
|
* "I'm the ghost of Christmas past."
* "And also with you."
| [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] (Oct. 29, 2002)
| [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] and [[The Cheat]] walk up to Homsar, whose "pumpkin" is an eggplant with a spoon taped to it.
| Homsar's first response references ''A Christmas Carol'', while his second line is a common response in many religious prayers. Both have some connection to the scene, and neither one is a word salad.
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| "When can we start the Jeffersons?"
| [[Strong Sad's Lament]] (Nov. 18, 2002)
| Strong Sad mentions in his journal this was all Homsar said to him that day.
| The context is unknown. Perhaps he was commenting on how boring Strong Sad is, and expressing his desire to do something else.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "Nowowowow, this is the thrill of a lifetime."
| [[Happy T!]] (Nov. 28, 2002)
| This Easter egg was found by clicking on the bottom-right corner of the page.
| The other characters all said some variation of "Happy T!", but Homsar's line could still be construed to make some sense.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "I do what I'm told..."
| Email [[dragon]] (Jan. 13, 2003)
| Strong Bad had just told him to get out of his house.
| Coherent given the situation.
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|
*"AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hey Reggie! Is that rhinoceros around?"
*"I'm a song from the sixties."
| Email [[interview]] (Feb. 10, 2003)
| These are Homsar's actual lines in this email. The other "lines" were spoken by Strong Bad.
| Homsar's first line is peculiar, but it makes enough sense that Strong Bad, as well as the viewer, can figure out that he's referring to Strong Sad. The second line is a comedic repetition of one of Strong Bad's lines.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| '''[[Toons]]:''' "ToOoOoOons!" '''[[Games]]:''' "James!" '''[[Characters]]:''' "[[Wikipedia:Kelsey Grammer|Kelsey Grammer]]!" '''[[Downloads]]:''' "Thank youuuuu." '''[[Store]]:''' "Legitimate business." '''[[Email]]:''' "AaAaAaAaAaAaA!"
| [[Homsar Main Page]] (Feb. 10, 2003)
| Homsar reads off the main navigation buttons in his own unique way.
| None of these really qualify as word salads, though he is more out of context on some buttons than on others.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "I'm a million ladies tall." (Quoted by Strong Sad.)
| Email [[2 emails]] (Apr. 28, 2003)
| Strong Bad was asking Strong Sad if any of the "million hot ladies" called to say they weren't coming to his party." Strong Sad says no one called except Homsar.
| Not really a word salad as Homsar's statement could be interpreted as, "I'm as tall as any of those ladies," or as a way of saying he has a million ladies with him.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "AAAaaaAAAaaa-I'm just in time for the murder mystery!"
| Email [[suntan]] (Jun. 16, 2003)
| A "Celebrity(?) Testimonial" of Strong Bad's Ab-Abber 2000. Homsar had used it to draw a calculator with the word "SALAd" on his shirt.
| Homsar's line does not make sense in this scene, but the sentence itself is coherent.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hi, Wonder Mike! I'm Homsar! The captain of the gravy train. Climb aboard! '''I've brought my best foot flowered... Pshoooo!''' Sure beats breaking up with me. Don't look now! I'm just a friendly reminder. AaAaAaAaAaAaA! AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Think I won the Powerball."
| [[Homsar#Character Video Transcript|Homsar's Character Video]] (Jul. 14, 2003)
| Homsar introduces himself.
| "I've brought my best foot flowered", if taken at face value, is a prime example of a word salad — the sentence makes no sense either in context or by itself, and yet is still syntactically valid. However, Homsar might have meant to say "forward" instead of "flowered", which would make the sentence make much more sense. The rest of Homsar's video is made up of coherent but disconnected sentences that each make sense by themselves. If there were such a thing as a "sentence salad", this would be it. It is possible, however, that he simply wasn't sure what he should be saying.
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| "I'm crying on the inside..."
| Email [[impression]] (Aug. 25, 2003)
| Homsar had just been disqualified from the Strong Sad Lookalike Contest because he was mistaken for Strong Sad.
| This line makes sense for two reasons: It's something Strong Sad would likely say, and Homsar himself may have been sad that he was disqualified.
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| "AaAaAa! I'm open for interpretation!"
| [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] (Oct. 29, 2003)
| Homsar's secret costume, Slash from Guns N' Roses.
| Could be reinterpreted as "What do you think of my costume?" In addition, this could be a reference to whether his sudden appearance in the cartoon has any significance to the story.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "You gotta get yours, I gotta get mine."
| Email [[army]] (Jan. 5, 2004)
| Responding to Homestar's call to action for the [[Homestarmy]].
| This line makes some sense in this context — it could be construed that Homsar really is in the Homestarmy for personal reasons.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "I'm forever your girl."
| Email [[different town]] (Feb. 23, 2004)
| Spoken as [[Modestly Hot Homsar]]. It should be noted that this took place in Strong Bad's imagination.
| This phrase makes perfect sense, considering that Homsar was just transformed into a female figure.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "It's time for tasteball!"
| Email [[theme park]] (May 25, 2004)
| Giving information to Homestar Runner.
| This one is a close call. On the one hand, the viewer is left wondering exactly what tasteball is, but Homestar replies with "Oh crap, it's tasteball already?", indicating that it was not unexpected for Homsar to say that. Tasteball could presumably be one of their duties as mascots. On the other hand, Homsar's line may qualify as a true word salad, and Homestar's reply could just be a typical clueless reaction.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
|
*"DaAaAaA! I'm a trendy tote bag!"
*"I'm not gonna lie to you, that's a healthy piece of real estate!"
*"That's a real popular song! Who wants to hear of it fifty times more?"
| Email [[for kids]] (Aug. 9, 2004)
| Homsar on his kids' show, ''[[Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?]]''
| "I'm a trendy tote bag" makes some sense in context, because Homsar is appearing on a public television show, and tote bags are among the most common free gifts given by public television stations in pledge drives. His line about real estate (referring to the letter G) makes a small amount of sense in context. His last line is strongly connected to the scene, in which they had just finished singing "Stave It Off, 1-2-3".
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "I blew it, man. I lose my touch."
| [[Halloween Fairstival]] (Oct. 29, 2004)
| This was a line spoken by Kumar from ''Bottle Rocket'', which was Homsar's costume.
| This makes sense because he's quoting the character upon which his costume is based.
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|
*"Alms for the pudgy! Alms for the pudgy."
*"You're a real state trooper."
| [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] (Dec. 20, 2004)
| Homsar is running a donation station, and Homestar stops by, spits in the donation can, then leaves again.
| Homsar's first line is a take on "Alms for the poor", a common greeting for beggars, panhandlers, and donation takers. The second line is an odd way of saying "thanks". Both make sense.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "I'm the human wedgie."
| Email [[origins]] (Jan. 31, 2005)
| Homsar was glued to Marzipan as a prank.
| This line seems to indicate that Homsar is aware of his predicament, but it doesn't really relate all that well. However, "The Human (noun)" is a pretty common way to describe one's self performing the function of an inanimate object — for example, "The Human Cannonball" — and this could be akin to his calling himself "The Human Prank".
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| "Caramel corn for president, please."
| Email [[rampage]] (Apr. 11, 2005)
| Homsar gives "praise" to Strong Sad at his Poetry Slam.
| As praise, this sentence makes little sense. On its own, it also doesn't make much sense, though it is fairly close to "Kernel/Colonel Corn", which is a common joke. It may be a stretch to call this a word salad.
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| "I'm just me, can't you see? I'm just a silly little bumblebee."
| Email [[record book]] (Jul. 25, 2005)
| Coach Z sang the same thing moments before. Both were aiming for a record of some sort.
| Homsar is simply copying Coach Z in this scene.
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| "Location, location, location!"
| [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] (Nov. 1, 2005)
| Homsar dresses up as Tingle from the Legend of Zelda series. He says this after Homestar rejects his "choices".
| Homsar's quote here is a common phrase used in real estate (the three most important things). It does make some sense when paired with his costume, as [[Wikipedia:Tingle|Tingle]] sold maps to Link in his debut in [[Wikipedia:Majora's Mask|Majora's Mask]].
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| "Let's sing a song of Pennzoil!"
| [[Fall Float Parade]] (Nov. 21, 2005)
| Homsar and a clone of himself drive through the parade.
| Could be construed as a product endorsement. Pennzoil has sponsored many such parades in the real world.
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| "I'm a little light in the leftovers!"
| [[Weclome Back]] (Jul. 3, 2006)
| Homsar says this while standing on a merchandise table.
| Homsar takes a common phrase and substitutes a random word — something he does fairly often. This sentence could be construed to mean "I don't have much leftover stuff", or "I'm not very smart". It should also be noted that being "a little light in the '''loafers'''" is a common euphemism for homosexuality. The phrase itself, when put into context, is likely Homsar's way of saying that the merchandise is a limited time offer.
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| "This dinner party is top dollar!"
| [[cliffhangers]] (Sept. 18, 2006)
| Homsar says this while hanging off a cliff by a rope.
| Not exactly appropriate given the situation, but he does acknowledge that he is at a gathering. It could also be inferred that he likes hanging upside-down.
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| "Eggs tree, eggs tree! This get-up is mah get down!"
| [[Happy Hallow-day]] (Oct. 30, 2006)
| Homsar is holding a newspaper with the headline "Eggs Tree! Eggs Tree!"
| "Eggs Tree" sounds like the way Homestar pronounced "extree" earlier in the toon, albeit broken up into words. Plus, during this scene he's standing next to a tree full of actual eggs. "This get-up is mah get down" refers to when Homestar says that the Newspaper Boy outfit was NOT his Halloween costume. The opposite is the case for Homsar.
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| "Well, hello, chocolate cake!"
| [[strong badathlon]] (Jan. 29, 2007)
| Homsar and Marzipan are having a tea party when The Cheat, covered in [[whatsit]], comes flying through the air and lands on the table.
| This line makes some sense in this context, since chocolate and whatsit are both brown in color. Another way this line could make sense is that "chocolate cake" can be used a term of endearment. It is also possible that Homsar could be referring to the shape of The Cheat as a piece of chocolate cake.
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "AaAaAh! My cheese is 50 cent!"
| [[Who Said What Now?]]
| This is Homsar's quote for the game.
| Homsar probably was referring to the cost of his cheese.
|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- valign=top
| "These Easter pants are getting way too tight!"
| [[DNA Evidence (toon)|DNA Evidence]] (May 15, 2007)
| This is Homsar's reply to Strong Sad, when the latter asks the former if he will say anything at the end of the toon.
| There are a couple of things this line could reference: Homsar's occasional appearances in [[Easter egg]]s, and the common running gag of [[pants]]. Perhaps Homsar is somewhat dazed by Strong Sad's long exposition and is uttering whatever is on his mind. It could also mean that he feels pressure from Strong Sad after witnessing such an out-of-character revelation from him, and wishes to remove himself from the uncomfortable situation. It could also be referring to himself, "The Human Wedgie".
|}

== Analysis and Summary ==

As shown here, there are logical arguments for almost all of Homsar's phrases. It seems that Homsar simply has an odd and somewhat indirect way of communicating with others.

There is a pattern that appears during this analysis, however: In almost every case, if there's a strong reason for Homsar to communicate a particular concept, he'll do it unerringly — one can always tell what he means. It is when he doesn't have a particularly strong reason to communicate that his speech becomes more random. For example, if he has a request ("Is that rhinoceros around?", "That's a real popular song! Who wants to hear of it fifty times more?"), his sentence relates quite clearly to the scene, and is itself perfectly valid, even if there was a much more direct way of saying it. But in his character video, his sentences are almost completely disconnected from one another, and in [[suntan]] and [[theme park]], he had no particular reason to send a message, so he seemed to just pull a random sentence out of thin air, perhaps just so he could say something.

It seems clear that while Homsar doesn't have a strong grasp on reality, he is pretty coherent most of the time, and he can relate to other characters and his surroundings when he needs to. Looking at the definition of "word salad" as given by Wikipedia, it does not appear that Homsar suffers from this disorder — at least, not much.

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Georgia Tech - 26 Apr 2007

0rion — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:57:08 GMT

0rion: /* Part II: Q & A */ Another dialogue link.

[[Image:20070426 GA Tech event poster.png|thumb|Event poster]]
On April 26, 2007, [[The Brothers Chaps]] appeared at a talk at the Multimedia Studio of [[Wikipedia:Georgia Institute of Technology|Georgia Tech]]. The event was scheduled to include Q&A, background info, a [[Flash]] demo and more.

The event took place in the Library on the Georgia Tech campus. It was organized by Alison Valk and Joel Linderman. It took place in the multimedia studio that houses all of their high end multimedia software and equipment, as well as being "homebase" for the Georgia Tech iMovieFest. The studio is currently decked out as "[[wikipedia:Mario|Mario]]-land" and discussions have taken place regarding the possibility of doing a [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] theme for the summer months.

Due to various programs on campus and the high interest of many of the students there in Flash animation, Alison and Joel felt The Brothers Chaps would be ideal speakers. Alison focused on the idea of collaborating with her management to bring in some "nontraditional speakers" to the library, such as "the guys from Homestar Runner".

==Transcript==
<noinclude>{{uncensored|Georgia Tech - 26 Apr 2007 (censored)}}</noinclude>
===Part I: Demo===
''{The video fades in to a shot of the event poster, where it lingers for a few seconds before cross-fading to the Georgia Tech Multimedia Studio. Ryan, Matt and Mike are sitting near a row of computers, and Alison and Joel are standing behind them. Mike has his laptop in front of him, which is connected to a projector displaying his monitor on a screen to his left. The audience surrounds them on three sides.}''

'''ALISON VALK:''' —he heads up the Multimedia Studio here, and uh, we are really, really lucky to have the guys from Homestar Runner here. Um, if you don't know what Homestar Runner is, it is one of the most popular, uh, Flash-animated cartoons on the web, and, uh, these guys have been written up in the ''New York Times'', ''Wired'', been interviewed for ''All Things Considered''. Um, you guys have worked with They Might Be Giants, is that right?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Mmm-hmm.

'''ALISON:''' And anyways, but, um, we're really, really lucky to have them here. They're going to, uh, do a Flash demo for us and answer a few questions that you guys might have. So, without further ado, Mike and Matt Chapman.

'''MIKE:''' Thanks, Alison.

''{Applause}''

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' And this, this is Ryan, uh, Sterritt. ''{Points to Ryan on his right}'' He works with us and does, uh, authors all our DVDs and does all our video stuff also.

'''MIKE:''' Um...Matt?

'''MATT:''' Hi everybody.

'''MIKE:''' Um, thanks for having us by the way, guys. This place is pretty awesome. Uh, Alison was trying to get me to do it, and I am generally really, uh, nervous about doing this kind of stuff, but when she showed me pictures of how it's all decked out like Mario Land, I decided it would make me feel very comfortable, which it really hasn't because I'm still pretty nervous, but anyway...

''{Some members of the audience let out a collective "Awwww..."}''

'''MIKE:''' Um...

'''MATT:''' It's good to be back in the Mushroom Kingdom.

'''MIKE:''' ''{Laughs}'' And the last time I was on the Georgia Tech campus was probably in like 1986 for the Science Olympiad when, uh, which was just kind of math— mathletes kind of, but uh, I had to do this event called Bottle Music where you filled up bottles with different amounts of water and make a song hitting them with a spoon and I didn't want to do it, so we pushed the kid that was holding our box of bottles so that they broke so that we didn't have to compete.

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' Um, so...

'''MATT:''' Good job!

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. ''{Laughs}''

'''MATT:''' One time I went to Bobby Cremin's basketball camp in fourth grade. It was a stay-overnight camp.

'''MIKE:''' ''{Laughs}''

'''MATT:''' It was awesome. And these kids trying to get me to cuss and I wasn't cussing yet.

'''MIKE:''' ''{Laughs}''

'''MATT:''' ''{With Mike laughing throughout}'' And they were like, "Say a cuss." And they were like, "You never cuss, Chapman," and I was like, "You don't know, I cuss all the time. What are you talking about?" And they were like, "Well then, say a cuss word," and so, uh, so that everything would be okay, and I would still go to heaven, I was like, I go, "Shet," and in— in my head it was S–H–E–T, but they totally bought it and thought I said "{{{swear|shit}}}" and then I was cool.

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' Um, so anyway, we do a website called homestarrunner.com. We've been doing it for seven, over seven years now, and it is, uh, it's pretty much been our sole job for like the last five now. Um, and it's just Flash-animated cartoons on the web. We make money by selling T-shirts. We don't have any ads on the site or anything like that. The only revenue is from people buying shirts and DVDs and the merchandise that we sell, uh, on the site. Um, and so anyway, we were just, they asked us to just to do a little demo about how we do stuff, and it's pretty funny because all these computers are decked out and much nicer than the computers that we make Homestar on. Um, we use Flash 5, which, I think, they're on Flash 8 now, so the version of Flash we use is about four, four years outdated. Um, for various lazy reasons, mostly, just not wanting to, uh, you know, get used to the minor changes and interface and things like that.

'''MATT:''' Well, we definitely work faster. There's, uh, several things that we can do way faster in Flash 5 than we can in 8. Uh, we, we publish everything in Flash 8 because it compresses everything so much more. Like, we'll make a cartoon in Flash 5, and it'll be, like, one and a half megs, and then you put it in Flash 8, and it's 700k or something, so it, it really makes a difference, so, uh, to keep bandwidth under control, we do that sort of thing. But, um...

''{Mike brings up Flash 5 on the screen. The animation window is blank except for an image of Homestar on the far right.}''

'''MIKE:''' So there's beautiful Flash 5, and it was back before Adobe sued Macromedia, so they could have tabbed folders over here. ''{Starts clicking around the tabs in the right-hand menus in the Flash interface}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that's another—

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' That's another thing we like.

'''MATT:''' Well, I guess now that they've merged, or, you know, that, that Adobe bought Macromedia, the next version of Flash supposedly is going to bring back the little tabs over there, but that's, that was one of the biggest reasons why we kept using 5 was because it was so much easier to use from an organizational standpoint. Um...

'''MIKE:''' So I was just going to show, what we generally do is we've got, um, you know, several hundred cartoons at this point, so obviously we don't need to redraw all the characters for every cartoon. We can reuse graphics, so I'll just open up this library. Um...something that has, say, the background in it. And, um... ''{peruses through library}''

'''MATT:''' We never organize things in folders because that would make it too easy to find.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, so there's just like 200 something items.

'''MATT and MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' There it is, "Ground".

'''MIKE:''' So I'll make a thing down here and drag it in. ''{Drags an image of the Field onto the animation window}'' And sky is for some reason called "Sky2".

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' "Sky2". It's been called "Sky2", that symbol probably for six years for no reason. We've never changed it to just "Sky". ''{drags an image of the sky down and arranges it behind the Field}'' And then we also have a, uh...little border that we put over everything to give everything a nice rounded edge. ''{Places a black rectangular border with rounded corners over the animation window. }'' Because round things are nice.

'''MATT:''' Homestar's on top of the border.

'''MIKE:''' Well, I'll drag the border up in front of him. ''{Rearranges the border so that it's in front of Homestar}'' So, anyway, um, this is the magic of making Homestar walk. So we've got this "walk" clip. ''{Plays a looping clip of Homestar walking}'' It's its own ten-frame graphic that just loops, and so we'll just tween it from there to there, and then at that point I've already broken him apart into four, um, layers, with each part being on a layer. And I'll flip that foot and make him so that he's sort of facing that way. And we animate everything at 12 frames a second, um—

'''MATT:''' —cause that's what you did in 1999.

'''MIKE:''' In 1999, that's, that's all—

'''MATT:''' —all the Internet could handle.

'''MIKE:''' Um, and that's how we learned to animate, so we have rarely...done a few things at 18 or 24 frames a second, and of course it takes us way longer, so we, we stick with 12. Um...

'''MATT:''' Its funny we, for when we do DVDs, there's a, we do a, a fake FBI warning thing at the beginning, you know, like the one from the '80s with that fading background, and then one of the characters will always come out over it, and in order for that fadey background to look good in Flash, we'd have to make it at 30 frames per second, and I think that was just easy, too, because all video's at 30 frames, obviously, or 29.97 or whatever. And, uh, and so then we have to animate the characters at 30 frames per second, and that's a huge pain in the {{{swear|ass}}}.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' It's just like, it takes, like, The Cheat...

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Yeah. It takes like three days.

'''MATT:''' ...usually, like, The Cheat, when he turns around, it's, like, two frames, and he just goes, like, "doink" and flips around the other side, so this way we'd have to, like, make some real frame of The Cheat turning. And, anyways, it's a, it's, we're, we're glad that the things were the way they were in '99. So we, uh, definitely makes it much quicker. Plus we do, you know, we're trying to make a three- to five-minute cartoon pretty much every week, and so animating it at 12 frames per second definitely makes that possible. I feel like if we tried to animate quicker, at least for us, I'm sure there's people that can, that do it, but for us, that's, that's the way we can get something done.

''{Mike, who has been modifying with the animation the entire time Matt's been talking, now plays it. Homestar walks in from the right and stops in the middle of the animation window.}''

'''MIKE:''' ''{dryly}'' So, did you see that, guys? Look, he's stopped walking. Isn't that amazing?

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' And this is a, this is a, a trick that Matt patented, it's called the "Doink", where it just kind of goes up and down when you're transitioning from one thing to another, just make him kind of pop up a little bit. For some reason, it makes it look better.

'''MATT:''' We learned that people call that in the cartooning industry, we met a guy that just graduated from SCAD, and it's called "squash and stretch" ''{Mike laughs}'' in the animation industry. But I was like, "No, that's doinking."

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' And that's another thing, we, um...

'''MATT:''' "You can't fool me."

'''MIKE:''' We're totally self-taught animators and illustrators. Uh, I was a photography major at uh, University of Georgia, and Matt went to film school at Florida State, um, and then we both kind of realized we didn't want to do ''that'' as our careers and just started teaching ourselves Photoshop and Illustrator and Flash. And Homestar was originally just a, a tool, something to learn Flash with because we were going to try to get jobs, you know, making banner ads for, you know, icebox.com or whatever was the, um, Flash-animated—

'''MATT:''' Yeah, I got one of those jobs.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, Matt, Matt worked at MindSpring and then, which became EarthLink, um, for several years.

'''MATT:''' Made some sweet banner ads for EarthLink.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, we just discovered, uh, buried in some EarthLink pages, there's still some icons that you made like six years ago or something.

'''MATT:''' If you go to the EarthLink personal start page in the accounting section, or banking section, there's a few of my icons still up there. ''{Laughter}'' I was proud. My legacy lives on. ''{Laughter}'' I'm not going to show my kids Homestar Runner when they grow up. I'm going to be, like, ''{raises voice to higher pitch}'' "Hey, you know what your dad did? He made this, this, like, market sign that has a, one graph going up and it's red, and the green graph is going down." Which is wrong, cause the green graph should probably be growing.

''{Matt turns to Mike, who's still editing the Flash clip.}''

'''MATT:''' So are you going to make him say a line?

'''MIKE:''' We're going to make him say a line of dialogue, and I will—

'''MATT:''' ''{Who had briefly interrupted}'' Sorry.

'''MIKE:''' No no no no.

'''MATT:''' I was just going to say why, uh, this is one of the things that we love about Flash, uh, 5, and again, there's, there's probably several things. We've tried to have people tell us this, like, oh, you know, you can do that in Flash 8, we just didn't know how to do it. This is something that I don't think you can do, is that...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{on screen}'' Oh, hello.

'''MATT:''' Like, show him, so like, um...

'''MIKE:''' Um, so his head is here on frame 2. Another thing that, you know, people know Flash, if you make everything a symbol and put every symbol on its own layer, it just makes things a lot easier from an organizational standpoint. So, um, to make Homestar talk, he's got three faces: closed mouth, that mouth, and that mouth. The "O" mouth.

'''MATT:''' The roundy mouth.

'''MIKE:''' The roundy mouth, squarey mouth, and closed mouth. So it's really easy to animate. We accidentally made all these characters very easy to animate. Most of them don't have arms or legs. Several of them don't have mouths or anything like that. We, you know, created the characters in 1996 before we were ever going to animate them, so we totally lucked out. The characters that do have arms and, like, elbows and things, you know, we just tend not to put into cartoons very much.

'''MATT:''' ''{Laughs}'' That's why Bubs is always behind a concession stand.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' So you don't have to mess with his legs.

'''MIKE:''' Bubs's frickin' elbows. Um, but, so anyway, it's three frames, and I've got it set to single frame at 1, so when he's not talking, it's just going to stay closed. If I put a...um, not on that frame...if I put a key frame and make it go to frame 3, that's his "O" mouth, and so I can just click on this frame. And this is one of the things that's different between Flash 8 and Flash 5. In Flash 5, I can just click on these frames, and I can still hear the sound. ''{Clicks in individual frames, producing a frame's worth of dialogue with each click.}'' So I know right there he's stopped saying "oh", and so I can put that, and he's starting to say "heh", so I can make that. And then I can just cut and paste. He's saying "oh". ''{Starts rapidly cutting and pasting frames.}'' Right now, I'm just cut-and-pasting frames rather than keep going back down here to type in frame 2 or 3. I know which ones are which.

'''MATT:''' We don't necessarily, we, most of you can probably, that do Flash animation can probably animate way better than we can, and we're, so we're not saying this is how you have to do it. But this is, this is just our process.

'''MIKE:''' I don't even know what he's saying here, so it would help if I listened to the soundbyte ''{Laughter}'' so I knew what he was saying.

'''MATT:''' We recorded this right before we left.

''{Mike plays the audio clip.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{on screen}'' Oh, hello guys. This is my talk and mouth move.

'''MIKE:''' "This is my talk and mouth move" is what it sounds like he's saying..."Hello guys." And do we have volume? ''{Turns up the volume and continues cutting and pasting mouth movements to the audio clips}''

'''MATT:''' There we go.

'''MIKE:''' So I can just sit here and click until he starts to say "my."

'''MATT:''' So yeah in, uh, Flash, uh...

'''MIKE:''' In Flash 8, I would have to sit here and do that. ''{drags the marker across the audio clip}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah, if you drag it across, you'll hear the sound, but when you click on the frame, you don't hear that one little, like, you know, frame's worth of sound, which is, makes it so much easier when you're lip-syncing dialogue. Um, and that's, that's, like, that alone is one of the reasons why we, we still use this five-year-old, six-year-old version of Flash.

'''MIKE:''' So he's saying "mouth," so I'll get the "m"— or the "o". "Mouth" ... "Great times."

'''MATT:''' That's another thing with, with Homestar, uh, in doing it at 12 frames per second, I mean, uh, you could, we could add a mouth, you know, a half-closed mouth, or, like a, another in between the "o" and the, the square mouth or something like that, but like, it actually, at 12 frames per second, I mean, you're not going to get that much more in between. You're not going to see that much more.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, its already hard enough now. Sometimes you have to decide where he closes his mouth, because he sort of closes his mouth halfway in between two frames.

''{Mike finishes syncing Homestar's mouth movements to the audio and now plays the entire clip.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{on screen}'' Oh, hello guys. This is my talk and mouth move. Great times.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' There you go.

'''MIKE:''' ''{still modifying the animation}'' And so what I would do probably is go ahead and give him a little...and he's kind of...So I can make him move around a little bit, maybe. For an interesting line, like...

''{Mike plays the clip again.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{on screen}'' Oh, hello guys. ''{doinks}'' This is ''{leans forward}'' my ''{turns his upper body around}'' talk— ''{resumes his normal posture as the audience laughs}''

'''MIKE:''' I might try a little harder to make that look better, but...actually, I might, I probably wouldn't try. Matt's generally a better animator, so that anytime you see really, like, just like, "Hi, I'm Strong Bad" animation, that's me, and Matt will make him, like, move around a little more. I'm just trying to plow through these things. ''{Laughs}'' Matt, generally, I do about, like, I don't know, 70%—

'''MATT:''' —75—

'''MIKE:''' —60 to 75% of the cartoon I do, and then Matt does any complicated scene with a lot of characters where there's actually some kind of action other than just characters talking Matt will do, and spend, like, five days on them, and then I'll just plow through the rest of the cartoon. Um...

'''MATT:''' And Mike also, while I'm recording stuff, Mike starts to do, you know, the rest of the cartoon, so I'll be—

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, I'll do—

'''MATT:''' —recording the dialogue and breaking apart and all that stuff, and then Mike's just getting busy on starting the cartoon or placing scenes.

'''MIKE:''' Doing new graphics, if there's any unique, you know, new drawings, we try to reuse stuff as much as possible, but inevitably, there's going to be some objects or backgrounds or something that we need to draw new.

'''MATT:''' We'll start out a week and be like, "All right, this, you know, last week was rough. We did, like, three all-nighters to get this cartoon done, so it's, this one will try and stick with just," you know, not to make it jokes we've done before, but just, "oh, all take place in Bubs' Concession Stand or places we've already established," and then inevitably, we end up, like, inventing a movie theater for this cartoon, or, like, having some new thing happen that we have to make a bunch of new graphics, or, um...We're always shooting ourselves in the foot that way.

'''MIKE:''' Um...What else, Matt?

'''MATT:''' Why don't you just show, show them that uh, the cartoon, so show them something in, in action a little more.

'''MIKE:''' Um, like "The Accent"?

'''MATT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' The accent one, yeah.

'''MIKE:''' So this is—

'''MATT:''' We have a, an HTML?

'''MIKE:''' I do. Why don't you tell them what this is?

'''MATT:''' Uh, so this is just, uh, we're putting out another DVD, uh, it's time, we're, we've gotten another 30 Strong Bad E-mails done, and so we're, we've, we've compiled them onto a, uh, DVD at that point, uh, and add them with extra features and commentary and all that crap, and so, we try to put, you know, bonus stuff on it to make it worthwhile, and, uh, so this is a, a bonus e-mail that's going on the new Strong Bad E-mail DVD.

'''MIKE:''' This is a question that Strong Bad gets asked a lot, and so we've finally just, as a bonus thing, we've decided we'd answer it. Um...

''{Plays the Strong Bad E-mail [[Accent]].}''

'''MIKE:''' So that's that. That's kind of a, um—

''{Mike is interrupted as everybody applauds.}''

'''MIKE:''' That's what we do. That's, Strong Bad E-mails are the cartoons we do probably, I don't know, two or three out of every four updates is one of those. We've done, uh, 170-something at this point? ''{Turns to Matt.}''

'''MATT:''' Mmmm hmmm.

'''MIKE:''' Um, over the last five or six years. Um, making Strong Bad's head waggle around in front of the text and making the text animate, that's one of the, my specialties. That is really not fun to animate text being typed across the screen. But, um, anyway...

'''MATT:''' We've tried to, we've tried a couple of times to figure out a way to automate that, but Flash can't, can't look at a wav file and, uh, and, like, interpret what it is. We were like, wanted to figure out a way where we could just bring in the the sound file of Strong Bad and just have it be like, okay, when he gets loud, his head goes up.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' When he gets soft, his head waggles And then we could just, like, plug it in and the action script would do the rest, but nobody could, nobody could figure that out for us. Um...

'''MIKE:''' I found a few things laying around my file fol-, uh, my folder that we've never done anything with, and most of them, I don't even know why I made them.

''{Mike plays a looping animation that shows Homestar leaping up into the air and then turning around and falling back to the ground head-first. He's wearing a yellow helmet covering his eyes and matching kneepads.}''

'''MATT:''' What's this one?

'''MIKE:''' It's just Homestar, just with a helmet and kneepads on flying up in the air.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' What is that from?

'''MIKE:''' I don't know. ''{Laughs}''

'''MATT:''' That, a nice ''{inaudible}''. That's from uh, from uh...

''{Offscreen, an audience member suggests "[[monster truck]]."}''

'''MATT:''' Monster truck one, yeah?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Who said that? ''{Offscreen, an audience member behind the Brothers Chaps says "yeah" and raises his hand.}'' Nice.

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' Impressive. Um...

'''MATT:''' That's another thing, is there's a, uh, there's a Wikipeda, a Home-, it's its own thing, a Homestar Wiki online, that is, uh, amazing and ridiculous and kind of frightening.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' And uh, and we use it, like, anytime they have, like, a, a drive, they'll have a drive because it's all just, uh, whatever, just people volunteering to do it, and so that their cost of bandwidth and everything is, is just, uh, out of pocket, and so anytime they have a drive, we try and donate to it, because we use it probably more than—

''{Stops and laughs along with the audience at another looping animation clip that Mike is playing. This one shows a squat, boxy Homestar falling headfirst into a line with three other identical Homestars and a similarly-shaped Strong Bad. He then bounces across the screen with the words "Going Away" in the background.}''

'''MATT:''' It's going away!

'''MIKE:''' Another thing I made for no reason.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah. But so, we uh, we use that wiki all the time because we'll be like, we'll look, you know, start to make a cartoon and be like, "All right, what's the one where Bubs has a toilet brush, why he has a toilet brush in some cartoon?" and then, uh, so you just look up toilet brush on the, uh...What is that?

''{Mike and the audience laugh at a looping animation of a sketch of Homestar doing the Keep On Truckin' walk.}''

'''MIKE:''' I'm not done animating that, though.

'''MATT:''' That's the Keep On Trucking guy. Yeah, uh...isn't that from that sketchbook drawing?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, there's a sketchbook drawing Matt made of that, and I just decided to, I haven't gotten very far, but I at least got the rough—

'''MATT:''' You're keeping all these secrets from me.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, this is the one I, I found this this morning. I had no idea why I made it or what it is.

''{Mike plays a looping animation of a squat, black-and-white shaded Strong Bad shaded in blue punching the air in a ready fighting position. The audience laughs}''

'''MIKE:''' It's called "SB style".

'''MATT:''' Let's make a T-shirt of that.

'''MIKE:''' ''{Laughs}''

'''MATT:''' I like that.

'''MIKE:''' Um...Yeah, uh, and then there's the...

''{Mike tries to open up a file in Flash 5 but receives an error message.}''

'''MATT:''' Oh, that's in Flash 8.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah...We're gonna do one where it looks like, it's kind of a rough animatic, you know, you see the pencil in-between drawings of, like, Disney cartoons and stuff before they...

''{Mike plays a looping animation that shows a sketch of Strong Bad bobbing his head to the side.}''

'''MATT:''' Is that all it does?

'''MIKE:''' That's all it does. ''{Laughs with audience.}'' I spent like, five minutes on that one. But I was just making sure it could work, and it looked, you know, looked okay.

'''MATT:''' How to draw Strong Bad the Marvel way.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah ''{Laughs.}''....Um, by the way, anyone if you've got questions during this, you can feel free to ask questions now.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, are we done showing other things we need to show?

'''MIKE:''' Um...

'''MATT:''' Show them that, show them the, uh, the, uh, the Atari game real quick.

'''MIKE:''' Oh yeah.

'''MATT:''' You have that?

'''MIKE:''' That's one of our, um...lifelong dreams. We've got a friend who programs, uh, games for the 2600, and he actually makes cartridges and so, I don't know, we started talking to him three or four years ago, and we wanted to, you know, actually make an Atari game, you know, 2004 or whatever. Still hasn't come out yet, so it'll be even funnier when it comes out in in 2012...

'''MATT:''' ''{Laughs with audience.}''

'''MIKE:''' ...producing that, the Atari 2600 game. ''{Staring at his computer.}'' Um, how do I do this?

'''MATT:''' Uh, just...uh, I guess try and drag it on top of it, try and drag "HS" onto that... ''{Windows error sound plays.}'' Ah, no.

'''MIKE:''' Can I just do this?

'''MATT:''' ''{inaudible}'' ''{Windows error sound plays}'' I don't know. Ah, you probably have to install it.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' You can't do it.

'''MIKE:''' All right. Sorry. False alarm. But anyway, its um, you know really is on a, a cartridge and so we, with the graphics, we're like, uh, 8 by 8 grid of asterisks that you had to...

'''MATT:''' Yeah, so he sent us, he'd be like, "Here, make some graphics and send us the template," and it was just a text file that had, yeah, it was like, there was like 16 by 8 gr-, sideways grid of asterisks, and then you made the stuff you wanted to be pixels be, uh, dashes instead or something, and so you're making them sideways and stretched out, and then he'd put them in the game, and then it's like, "Oh, there's Strong Sad." That's pretty cool.

'''MIKE:''' Um, this is the, um, Georgia Tech reference on the site. We made a video game that's tried to be, like, the worst video game ever, ''{Audience laughs}'' and, um, it was like track-and-field, one of those games where you have to mash buttons really fast, but it was a race-walking game, and, um...

''{The camera pans out to reveal that the game in question is [[50K Racewalker]].}''

'''MIKE:''' You have to press left and right alternately, but you can't go too fast or you foot fault, and literally, it would take like a day to win, to go 50 K.

'''MATT:''' Oh, no, more than that!

'''MIKE:''' It's like several days—

'''MATT:''' —three weeks—

'''MIKE:''' —or something. But anyway, so we made it so, for no reason, you can totally customize the way the character looked. And uh....

'''MATT:''' Only the, the only fun part of the game.

'''MIKE:''' And there's four or five um, four or five people that we made, uh, where if you make it look a certain way, and I think it's...yellow...black...yellow...

''{Mike selects these colors for the runner's shirt, shorts and shoes respectively. The words "Luke Schenscher" appear on the bottom of the screen.}''

'''MIKE:''' ...I think that's right. Yeah, it becomes Luke Sen-, Luke Schenscher, who was the—

''{The audience laughs.}''

'''MIKE:''' —center for Tech a few years ago. Um...

'''MATT:''' There's, there's a, what, there's...

'''MIKE:''' So then here's playing it. Oh wait.

'''MATT:''' Go.

''{Mike faults. The audience lets out a collective "Awwwww".}''

'''MATT:''' Awwwwww! You kick its {{{swear|ass}}}.

'''MIKE:''' Now watch how long... ''{Faults and the audience laughs}'' {{{swear|Damn}}}! I want to at least get to...yeah, this next hash mark...

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' Gooooo!

''{Mike reaches the hash mark.}''

'''MIKE:''' And that's point one ''{Faults and laughs}'' oh one, so that's a hundredth of one kilometer, so that's, like, 1/5000 of the game or something.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' We eventually made it to where, if you get to, if you get to, if you actually do a whole kilometer, then, uh, like, the screen starts to black out, and he walks into blackness.

'''MIKE:''' Oh yeah.

'''MATT:''' It's like, oh, we didn't program this far. ''{Audience laughs.}'' We added that one when somebody, like, e-mailed us a few days later and was like, "Hey, I got up to three kilometers," and we're like, "Wait! Really?"—

'''MIKE:''' ''{Laughs}''

'''MATT:''' —"People are doing that?" ''{Mike gets to 0.02km, then faults.}'' So we figured we should add something.

'''MIKE:''' Anyway—

'''MATT:''' And that's, uh—

'''MIKE:''' So you gotta, you gotta factor in a few faults, too, cause it sits, sits you there for like five seconds after you make a foot fault.

'''MATT:''' Um...What else? What was the, oh yeah, there was some e-mail where, where someone announces Strong Bad as "The Ramblin' Wreck of E-mail Check".

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Which is, that's the only other, we tried to figure out if there were any Georgia Tech references on the website.

'''MIKE:''' Which is pretty good because there's no, like, Georgia references or Florida State. I mean, it's not like we've got references to everything.

'''MATT:''' There's one that's, you know, where somebody, they're from Tallahassee, and he pronounces it "Gainesville".

''{Mike and the audience laugh.}''

'''MATT:''' ...just to {{{swear|piss}}} off... Um, so let's take questions.

'''MIKE:''' Questions.

'''MATT:''' We, we're out of things to show.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, we're done.

===Part II: Q & A===
'''Q: Where did y'all come up with the idea for Trogdor?'''

'''MIKE:''' Trogdor. Um...

'''MATT:''' It's based on, uh, Ed Emberley drawing books, um, which is the, these things when we were kids, a series of drawing books where it's like "draw", you know, to draw an alligator, you draw a, a um, uh, triangle and you draw a rectangle and a bunch of triangles on the back for the scales and two lines, you know, and broke it all down. And so originally the email was gonna be mostly about like how to draw crappy drawings, and um, and so it was Strong Bad's version of that doing this, this dragon. And, um, we had somewhere, we tried to find it, actually, to bring it up here, um, just the sheet of Mike and I trying to draw worse dragons than the others, so it's just a sheet of terribly drawn dragons.

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' You can see—

'''MATT:''' —And we just decided on that one.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah you can see like the sort of the evolution of, you know, like, "Oh, well we like the beefy arm sticking out of the back and we", you know, so it's sort of like 20 or 30 different variations, some of which are pretty hilarious. Some of them are just flat out alligators, like, crocodiles.

'''MATT:''' And then the, the, it's funny, though, because the song at the end of it was a complete afterthought, sort of. Like, we had, were making the e-mail, and essentially it was an e-mail about bad drawings. It was more like this illustration e-mail, and then Mike was, um—

'''MIKE:''' —We're—

'''MATT:''' —finishing up the e-mail? We had worked all night, so it was, like, breakfast, and I was in the kitchen making eggs, I think, and, uh, and started, and just started, started singing that song, like, as a joke, just singing this Trogdor song, and Mike was like, "Well, now we have to make that."

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' And so then we made the, the end. Um, you know...

'''MIKE:''' Here's, um, something else I forgot to show. The, um, There's a fake, um, heavy metal band that's Strong Bad's favorite band called Limozeen.

''{Someone in the audience shouts "whoo"}''

'''MIKE:''' And so, um, in making, we made a real album and had to make some fake album covers, and one ''{laughs}'' one of the things I made was that I wanted to make, uh, Limozeen, like, doing, like, gang symbols out of fingers, and so I tried to do it. And originally the idea was going to be, like, a hot woman—

'''MATT:''' —with like red—

'''MIKE:''' —with like red fingernails—

'''MATT:''' —Yeah.—

'''MIKE:''' —and, like, make spelling Limozeen with her fingers somehow, so I did a test to see how it would look, and...

'''MATT:''' It's the most obscene....

''{Laughter washes out their speech. The camera pans to the screen to show an image of the word "LIMOZEEN" spelled out with cut-outs of photos of a person's fingers.}''

'''MATT:''' It's so gross.

'''MIKE:''' And, like, the "e"s are all fat and stubby!

''{More laughter.}''

'''MIKE:''' It just looks—

'''MATT:''' —for the Saw movies.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. I thought we might get arrested if we publish that.

'''MATT:''' That is pornographic. I don't know why.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' ...Obscene...Uh any other, anybody else have a question? No?....

'''Q: Who does the voices?

'''MATT:''' ''{raises his hand}'' I do.

'''Q: ''Guitar Hero II'', you've got this song in there. So, um, how did that come about?'''

'''MATT:''' Um, the guy from Harmonix, Alex Rigopulos, uh, just e-mailed. He's a big fan, and, uh, e-mailed us and was like, "Hey, would you guys be willing to put a, you know, a track in as a bonus track?" He asked about, uh, one of, the song, Trogdor song, uh, ''Guitar Hero II'' for the Playstation 2 as, uh, as an unlockable track. And uh, so yeah, they were just fans and contacted us, which was pretty awesome. And uh, what else happened with that? Um, oh, it's funny, cause he, I was like, you know, you know, wanted to, like, repay the favor, and I was like, "Well, is there anything? You know, I'll send you whatever," and he was like, "Oh, I've already got everything," and I was like, "Oh, I'll send you some T-shirts and some DVDs," and he was like, "I've already gotten it all".

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' "Really? All of the T-shirts?" and he was like, "Well, kind of, pretty much." So that was pretty cool to find out that. Most of the stuff, we've, we've rarely sought out any of the cool collaborations that we've been able to do over the years and have just lucked out that people were psyched and, and contacted us which was so...It's a nice, lazy, totally like, um, what do you call it, uh, non-confrontational way to do it. Sit there and wait for cool people to come to you. ''{Mike laughs.}'' That's the moral...Uh, anybody else? ''{Points.}'' Yes.

'''Q: Uh, I know a lot of Flash and webcomic sites now, it's becoming common for creators to have a news or a blog page where they just talk about pending projects, things going on in their personal lives, they answer questions from the fans, things like that. They have a comments section. Have you guys ever thought about adding a page like that to your site?

'''MATT:''' ''{Turning to Mike}'' We were just...

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, we, just, just talked about that in the last week or two.

'''MATT:''' But what we wanted to make it was the Excuses Blog, and we would only update it when we don't update the website.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' Because we always, always have a really good reason. We never just, like, blow it off. It's always, like, we're working on, like, we're working on some other project, or, like, there's something going on in our lives like—

'''MIKE:''' —having a baby or something. ''{Laughs.}''

'''MATT:''' ''{Smiling and pointing to Mike.}'' Yeah, and so, uh, we were just like, "We need to start the Excuses Blog section," and just, like, every time we don't update it, it's like, "Hey, look, you know, maybe it's, show a little bit of what we're, the other thing we're working on, or something," or like, "We need to take this week off to work on the DVD." Uh, like, like the week when we made that "Accent" e-mail, it just sucks, like, we made this awesome e-mail, and then the next Monday we had to make another cartoon for it, and it was like, "No, we just made a cartoon.—"

'''MIKE:''' —So, yeah, we—

'''MATT:''' "—Now we have to make two." Uh, so we, we're thinking about it. Uh, because it's the sort of thing where we felt like it would sort of appease people if they knew that, like, you know, so the, maybe hate mail wouldn't come in—

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' —when we don't update, and, uh, and people wouldn't be {{{swear|pissed}}} off, like, "Oh, I'm not going back to Homestar anymore, man, they don't update anymore," or something like that which, uh...So, maybe. The Excuses Blog. Look, look for it in '07.

'''MIKE:''' ''{leaning over and pointing to his right}'' Question behind someone. I can't see...yep?

'''Q: Um, I know you guys have worked with They Might Be Giants several times in the past. Are you all going to keep collaborating?'''

'''MIKE:''' Yep.

'''MATT:''' ''{Turns to Mike}'' We're trying to, you don't have any, can we show a small clip of that? We can turn the audio down. Maybe they wouldn't care about that.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' We don't know. It's so cool working with them. It's, it's another thing that they just came to us, which was amazing. Like, in the same day we got a package from, uh, from, um, Jim Mallon, who is one of the producers of Mystery Science Theater. He operated Gypsy—I don't know of anybody knows—uh, and he sent us a Tom Servo, so in the same day, we got a Tom Servo puppet and then got an e-mail from John Linnell from They Might Be Giants, and we were just, like, uh, could have died the next day and been happy. Uh...

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' So, um, but they're so cool! They're really laid back and, like, just never, we've never had any contacts or agreements in any of the stuff we've done, I mean, like, we made a video for them. It was on MTV. It's on DVDs. Their stuff, you know, their song is on our DVD, and, like, they've never made us sign any of those things, so it's funny, cause we're working on this thing for them now, and I, I have no idea, we haven't, we haven't talked about whether we're getting paid for it. We haven't, uh, there's been no discussion of contract, or we didn't have to sign a non-disclosure agreement or anything, so it's funny. I was like, I'd like to show, just sort of show...

'''MIKE:''' It's just—

'''MATT:''' ''{Simultaneously}'' You can let it play for a little bit.

'''MIKE:''' It's uh, a k—

'''MATT:''' —the song, the song might be, maybe they wouldn't want people to hear the song.

''{The camera pans upward to reveal the music video being played. The first scene shows and overhead shot of cars racing down a figure-eight track. Cut to a boy in a red cap and blue coat and pants ice skating in a figure eight and moving toward the camera.}''

'''MIKE:''' It's a kid's, they've got some kid's DVDs. There's one called "Here Come the ABCs" and this is called, "Here comes the 123s," and so...

''{Someone in the audience lets out an "Awww." The scene cuts to an overhead shot of the skating boy.}''

'''MIKE:''' ...it's a video for that.

''{The camera cuts to a wide overhead shot to show several small figures skating on a frozen pond, some of which are etching a figure eight into the ice.}''

'''MATT:''' The number eight.

'''MIKE:''' And so, it's just lots of race car driving and kids ice skating...

''{Cut to an overhead shot of race cars racing around a figure-eight racetrack in the middle of a desert as a bird flies overhead.}''

'''MIKE:''' ...things like that.

''{Cut to a driver-side view of one of the race cars. As the car races along the track, a turn left sign springs up in his windshield. The screen then goes blank as Mike closes the music video.}''

'''MIKE:''' This was actually something we animated at 18 frames—

'''MATT:''' —oh yeah—

'''MIKE:''' —um, kind of just to, cause we knew—

'''MATT:''' —the robot, show 'em the robot.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, the robot. Matt's proud of his robot.

''{Matt laughs}''

'''MIKE:''' Don't nobody talk about these robots on your blog now.

''{Mike starts rapidly fast-forwarding through scenes in the music video.}''

'''MATT:''' But so hopefully, I mean, yes, we're actively doing this for them right now, and hopefully, I mean, it's been cool cause they've treated us like, not just like some kids that at one time did something with these guys, like, they, like, treat us like we're, like, they want to collaborate with us, which has been, like, hugely boundmoving and awesome, so hopefully, you know, we'll continue to work with them.

'''MIKE:''' Hey Matt, here are your robots.

''{The scene has frozen on an image of a spaceship following the path of a sideways rainbow figure eight in space.}''

'''MATT:''' Oh, awesome. Thanks, Mike. I wanted them to see them.

''{The scene shows four robots standing in a row on a glowing purple grid against a dark blue sky. One by one, the robots fold up into a shape, the first and third into a circle that's two-thirds complete and the second and fourth into small rectangles. The four then merge together to form the number 8, which then sprouts a robot head, two arms, and two legs. The robot then flies upward with its left fist raised. Laughter.}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah. They're kind of Tron transformer robots. Um, uh any other questions?...Yes.

'''Q: It's probably to be expected, but I know a lot of us probably want to hear some of the voices.'''

''{Laughter as Matt grins humbly}''

'''MATT:''' Um, sure, does somebody have a question for a character? That's always easy, easier to do than to just start talking like them. Do you have a question for a character?...''{as several audience members start talking at once}'' Yeah, put your money where your mouth is. What?

'''Q: ''{Several members of the audience speak up at once}'' How do you type with boxing gloves on?

'''MATT:''' That's a, that's the last question you should ask.

''{Laughter}''

'''Q: ''{The same student who asked Matt to do voices}'' How does the Cheat do voices for his own cartoons?'''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's what I'd like to know, because from what I can tell, the guy's got two throats.

''{Laughter}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' There's this one throat, it's, like, monkeys, you know, that can't talk, like, no matter what. Their vocal cords can't support human speech, you know, and I would, from what I, I've, you know, and I've had to pull stuff out of this throat several times, and he chokes on things and stuff, and it doesn't look like he could talk. And then all of a sudden, he starts making cartoons and he do-, he goes into this secret room when he does the voices, so I never see how he does it. And he comes out, and he sounds just like this:

''{Matt looks at Mike.}''

'''PBTC HOMESTAR:''' Hi, Strong Bad. I can do it all the time.

''{Laughter}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's amazing. I don't know how he does it.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' ''{Points}'' Yeah.

'''Q: I have a question for Homestar.'''

'''MATT:''' Oh. ''{Laughs with audience}'' Does anybody have any more questions for human people?

'''MIKE:''' ''{raises his hand}'' 'Cause I'll leave if not.

'''Q: ''{Same audience member}'' Did, did he, did he ever get a new cow lamp?'''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Um, I've been to every thrift store and vintage store and antique store in the country, ''{voice raises as if on the verge of tears}'' and I've not found another cow lamp. ''{voice returns to normal}'' So if anyone wants to make me a custom cow lamp, uh, that would be great. Uh, just so you know, it's made of out, like, dried, I don't know if it's animal skin or something, and it has the leather, like, binding around the top. It was three of those with, like, caveman drawings of, of cows. It was my favorite lamp.

'''MATT:''' ''{Pointing}'' Did, did you have a, a human question?

'''Q: Yeah. Speaking of voices, what do you do for recording voices?'''

'''MATT:''' Uh, we, uh, have a little, uh, like, a, a sound room, a fairly, it's not soundproof by any means, but it's better than, better than sitting in front of the computer in our old crappy apartment, which is what we used to do. Um, and so we've run into, we just have a decent, you know, um, mike. We've got, um, it's, whatever, a low impedance one that, like, you know, after like three feet, it just stops recording sound. Uh, and, uh, and we go, we go to USB Preamp, uh, that M-Audio makes, um, which is great. It's got XLR and quarter-inch inputs, and that just goes USB into the computer, and we use, uh, ''{laughs}'' I, again, we use, like, a five-year-old copy of Cool Edit Pro to do, uh, all the stuff. Now it's all Adobe Audition, and we also have new versions of that, but, um, and that's just, that's worked out for us, so...

'''MIKE:''' Um...

'''MATT:''' Nothing fancy.

'''MIKE:''' It's good that it doesn't record sound after about three feet, because then old recordings, when we had an apartment together, you could hear me, like, doing the dishes. There's one sound—

'''MATT:''' —Find the, find the, uh, find the worms. Squishiness.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, the worms... ''{starts looking for the file}''

'''MATT:''' Uh, do you have the main page or something? ''{turns to audience}'' There's a wor-, there's a sound of this, like ''{makes squishing noises}'' of, like, squishing, uh, that we've used forever, and you can hear, I think, ''{points to Mike}'' you recorded that sound, actually.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' And you can hear me whistling in the background. And we still use it, it's great. I've tried to sort of get the whistle out of it, but I kind of like that.

'''MIKE:''' Which one is that?

'''MATT:''' ...whistle. Uh, what's the, the...

''{Audience member suggests the Halloween Main Page.}''

'''MATT:''' Is there anyone from the Wiki here? ''{Turns toward screen, where Mike has the [[Main Pages|Wiki page "Main Pages"]] up}'' Yeah, see, main, main pages. Which is the Halloween one?

'''MIKE:''' Graveyard. Seven.

'''MATT:''' Seven! Okay, there you go.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' See, that's what we do, like, as, as we're making cartoons, we'll do that about a hundred times. There is worm, so crank it, crank it.

''{The camera pans up to the screen as Mike turns up the volume.}''

'''MATT:''' Look at, listen at the end, you'll hear, you'll hear, uh, me whistling.

''{Mike plays the squishy sound heard when the mouse passes over "Toons" or "Games" on [http://www.homestarrunner.com/main7.html Homestar Runner Main Page 7]. At the end of the sound clip is a faint whistle. The audience laughs. Mike plays the sound again. More laughter.}''

'''MATT:''' So that's, uh...

''{Mike closes the main page window, revealing another window with Strong Bad and The Cheat standing in Homestar's house. Homestar's broken cow lamp is on the floor, and Strong Bad's face is sticking out from the side of his head.}''

'''MIKE:''' There's one working now—

'''MATT:''' —sound has improved.

'''MIKE:''' There's one where you can clearly hear a truck driving by because the window was open. We had this apartment that no air conditioning, I mean, it was just awful in the summertime, so you just had the window open, and you could hear dogs barking and trucks driving by and stuff.

'''MATT:''' ''{Gets out of his chair and points at the screen}'' Look, there's a goof. The—

'''MIKE:''' —What?—

'''MATT:''' —shadow of Homestar's little table is going over the cow lamp.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, yeah.

''{Matt returns to his chair as Mike moves the image of the cow lamp slightly to the right.}''

'''MIKE:''' ''{playfully}'' Not anymore...

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' ...re-upload that. Uh, any other questions?

'''Q: Is there any, um, Easter eggs that we don't know about yet?'''

'''MATT:''' Probably not. I don't think, I think it, with, I know with the advent of the Wiki, there's nothing, we can't hide anything. It's, it's funny, because people started watching it, um, like they watch it full screen, and so you can see all this other crap that we kind of don't want you to see on the side that's just, like, you know, the edges of graphics and things, and so like. when Homestar walks in, and he just disappears, you know, when he, like, leaves the frame or whatever, and so if you watch it, and it's nice to watch it full screen, I understand, but they, you get all this extra crap that kinda makes the cartoon ugly, and so that's why for a while, we made that border huge, like, the symbol was gigantic so that, like, when you, even if you watched it all the way, like, it's still black on the edges if you watch it full screen. Um, but so, uh, because people are, they just start poking around, they, like, you know, decompile our Flash files and look at stuff, and so we've started adding a few things here and there for the, the, the nerds that do that stuff—

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' —And so there's one where these two Homestars appear, uh, like, it appears that there's two Homestars, like, you can barely see the edge of his feet on that side of the frame, like, that's in the actual cartoon, but then, so then to make it consistent with, uh, in the universe, one of them has a mustache, but you only see it if you, like, decompile the Flash thing and be like, "Oh, that's Homestar with a mustache." Um, and then, what else? There's something where recently Strong Bad almost showed you his, uh, a picture. People always ask about the character's parents, and we just, that's something that we don't want to touch, We're just like, "Who cares what their parents look like?"

'''MIKE:''' ''{Turns to Matt}'' Is it, is it this one? Which one is it?

'''MATT:''' It's, no, it's the chair. He gets the new chair.

'''MIKE:''' Oh. Chair.

'''MATT:''' And so he, uh, we decided we, we would, he acts like he's showing you his parents, but something's in the way, so you can't see this photograph, and so, uh if you decompile it, though, and look at that symbol, it says, it's like "Nice try" or something like that on it, uh, knowing that people were going to do it. We've had to, the Easter eggs have had to go into this, like, technical Flash level just to hide stuff. ''{points to an audience member}'' Yeah?

'''Q: Is that why you guys did the, uh, the widescreen for the special e-mail, I think it was, maybe it was the hundredth one?'''

'''MATT:''' Oh, the virus one.

'''MIKE:''' No, no, it was—

'''MATT:''' Yeah, it was—

'''MIKE:''' —hundred, hundredth—

'''Q: ''{Same audience member}'' Where, where he goes, "Whoa, where have you been?" and he said, "I al-, I'm always here."

'''MATT:''' Right.

'''Q: ''{Same audience member}'' "I think I've lived here."

'''MATT:''' ''{Laughs}'' Yeah, exactly.

'''MIKE:''' I don't have that e-mail.

'''MATT:''' You don't have one hundred on here?

'''MIKE:''' No, one sixty-two. I was looking for the, uh, "Nice Try Dodongo."

'''MATT:''' Oh, oh.

''{Audience member says "It's on the Wiki."}''

'''MATT:''' It is?

''{Same audience member says "Yeah." Mike laughs.}''

'''MATT:''' If we don't have it here, look on the Wiki.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' Anybody else. ''{Points}'' Yeah?

'''Q: Will there be more Peasant's Quest games?'''

'''MATT:''' We were just, we went on a big long walk yesterday and were talking about the future of Peasant's Quest. So, it's a long, I mean, it takes a long time to do that one. It took us, like, six months to make or something but yeah, {{{swear|hell}}} yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Peasant's quest is a, um, King's Quest-like graphic text adventure, and most of our video games and most of the games we make on the side are intentionally, like, 1985- to 1989-era graphics.

'''MATT:''' We try to make them fun, unlike the one we, we showed you.

'''MIKE:''' ''{Laughing}'' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' They look like old graphics. We're trying to actually make—

'''MIKE:''' They're more fun than that one, but anyway, uh, yeah, so, I was just lamenting the fact, I think it's been almost three years since the first one came out, and we, you know, just not gotten around. It, it was like a six month pro-, you know, uh, process to make the whole thing, so... We'll make another one.

'''MATT:''' When we have time.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' ''{Turns around and points behind him}'' Yeah, somebody else over here?

'''Q: Where's Stinkoman level 10?'''

''{Mike laughs}''

'''MATT:''' That's also coming. Now, it will probably will come before Peasant's Quest, actually. That's totally in the works, and, and, uh, what we're going to do is add, uh, maybe add difficulty levels and midpoints to each of the levels too, because people were always complaining that it was too annoying and hard, so we're going to add midpoints to the level and maybe difficulty levels so maybe people will actually play it. Uh...

'''MIKE:''' Here's a Stinkoman theme song that we've never used. ''{Plays an audio file as the camera pans upward to the screen.}''

'''DA VINCI's NOTEBOOK:''' ''{singing}'' 
Stinkoman ''{A silhouette of Stinkoman posing is superimposed behind the "Stinkoman 20X6" title.}'' 
Stinkoman ''{The scene pans left to a silhouette of Stinkoman running. The same title starts out small in front of the silhouette and grows increasingly larger.}'' 
Fight fight fight fight fight ''{With each "fight," the scene switches to Stinkoman in a different running or fighting pose. The scene cuts to a blank white screen at the end.}'' 
Challenge challenge challenge challenge challenge

'''MIKE:''' I didn't do any more animation.

'''DA VINCI'S NOTEBOOK:''' ''{singing}'' 
...20X6 ''{Brief cut to Stinkoman in a fighting pose pulling out his knife, then back to the blank screen.}'' 
All over the universe, the victims he has ''{inaudible}'' 
Number one. Double deuce.

'''MIKE:''' ''{Stops the audio file}'' Anyway, some people—

'''MATT:''' The guys from Da Vinci's Notebook who is this, uh, um, these aca-, humorous a cappella band that I, that's kind of broken up now?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Uh, did that a long time ago. They're the same guys who did this, uh, cartoon called the "Ballad of the Sneak" on the website. ''{Points}'' Uh, yes?

'''Q: How do you all do the writing? Is it just, you look at the e-mails, and if one strikes you as really funny, you go with it? Or do you have to think in advance?'''

'''MATT:''' Um, both, both ways. We'll do, we'll, we'll look through the e-mails. Um, we have a good ones folder that when we find one we think is good, we'll just separate it and just be, like, we don't not, not necessarily that right then it starts to write itself, but just like, "Oh, that has potential," um, and so we'll always go back and look at the good ones folder. Or, uh, sometimes there's time where it's like, we want to do an e-mail about this, uh, so let's search. Fortunately, we, he gets enough e-mails that you can usually just go—

'''MIKE:''' —we reverse engineer it.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, do a search for that word and see that, you know, they'll be five or six e-mails of that, pick the one that's the best. Uh, like that, that "Accent" one, cause like I said, that was one that we wrote a long time ago cause we get that question all the time, so it's like, "Oh, that will be an easy one to find," so just looked up "Accent" in, uh, you know, whatever, in Thunderbird, and it brought up, like, there were, like, that one has like 30 results for things, so just pick the one that we like the best and, uh, so yeah. And then as far as just straight-up writing for, like, cartoons and even for e-mails we usually, uh, we're pretty tapped out by Monday or Tuesday, whenever we put up the cartoon, so we, you know, take it easy one of those days, and then, uh, starting on Wednesday, we just, like, go for long walks and try and eat at, eat at weird places to make us think of funny stuff or just try, you know, just trying to get inspiration from whatever, just trying. Where we work is, is pretty, you know, we work in a kind of a depressing strip mall which is always good.

'''MIKE:''' Kind of depressing?

'''MATT:''' No, in a good way.

'''MIKE:''' No, the other places of business are, uh, Piccadilly Cafeteria, a hearing-aid store—

'''MATT:''' —yeah—

'''MIKE:''' —a medical supply store—

'''MATT:''' —like canes and walkers—

'''MIKE:''' —yeah, a, yeah, an adult diaper store—

'''MATT:''' —adult diaper ware-, like, wholesaler—

'''MIKE:''' —yeah, yeah, scooters, and then there's, like, a Family Dollar and Big Lots, I mean, everything is, like, for old people or, you know...

'''MATT:''' That's right.

'''MIKE:''' ...yeah, so it's pretty good. So we're in the basement there and nobody knows what we do. We just walk in there and lock the door and people, like, always try to open the door. There's been a couple of times when we don't lock the door, and people just poke their head in and, like, thinking we're, I don't know what they think we are, but they are just like come in and, it's like, "Hey, leave, please." ''{Laughs}''

'''MATT:''' Um, any-, anybody else? ''{points behind him}'' Yes?

'''Q: How much time do you actually spend checking e-mails?'''

'''MATT:''' Uh, there will be, I mean, the days when we're looking for one if we're, like, don't have an idea to, to, to go for, I mean, they'll, we'll both sit there for an hour or more just, like, reading e-mails. I mean, they, unfortunately, they, they break down into, like, you know, five categories that are all the same, so it's, like, having to find the ones that aren't that, and especially at, like, you know, now that we're at 170, it's like even, if it's like, yeah, it's a different question, but it's kind of treading the same territory. We're trying to, you know, we gotta try and keep it fresh for us, too, in addition to trying to keep it for the viewer. I mean, people will just want him to draw Trogdor again. I mean, that's, like, 50% of the e-mails he gets.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' "Draw another dragon" or "draw Trogdor again" or "draw a girlfriend for Trogdor."

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, a girlfriend for Trogdor.

'''MATT:''' So...uh, ''{points in front of him}'' Yes?

''{Audience member behind him says "Things for what not to e-mail about."}''

'''MATT:''' ''{Looks behind him}'' What?

''{Same audience member says "These are hints for what not to e-mail about." Matt laughs.}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah, exactly.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, did we ever do that?

'''MATT:''' ''{Simultaneously}'' We've been talking about making an e-mail that's him doing that. Like here's the—

'''MIKE:''' —asking about his parents—

''{Audience member says in a mock-Strong Bad voice, "Never e-mail me these things"]

'''MATT:''' There you go. Yeah, get him to do the voices.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' ''{Points in front of him}'' Yeah?

'''Q: Uh, I was just curious what kind of staff you guys have ''{inaudible - audience member continues to ask about the size and composition of the Homestar Runner staff}'' '''

''{Matt leans back in his chair and puts one arm behind Mike and the other behind Ryan. Mike points both fingers between Ryan, Matt and himself.}''

'''MATT:''' Uh, our sister does all of the business. She runs the online store, um, and that's, that's it. Four of us, basically...So not much on our staff.

'''MIKE:''' ''{points to his right}'' Yep.

'''Q: Uh, what's Homsar up to these days?'''

'''MATT:''' Homsar? ''{Mike laughs}'' Uh, you know, lurking in the shadows, floating around probably, somehow defying the laws of physics.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' Those are some of his hobbies. Uh, he's doing pretty good.

'''HOMSAR:''' Don't touch my severance package.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' That's a little more obscene than I wanted.

''{Laughter. Matt points in front of him.}''

'''Q: Um, one of the things I admire about the site is that, I know you do voices for 95% of the characters, and each one is distinctive, different. Did you study voice acting in college?'''

''{Mike laughs}''

'''MATT:''' Uh, no, it was, uh, Mike always says it was just cause I was the youngest and wanted attention the most when I was a kid, so I had to invent some way to make people pay attention to me. Uh...

'''MIKE:''' We also just watched, I, I mean, watched, like, Bugs Bunny cartoons, and he's got a very good memory, so he was, he was just always, you know, talking, quoting Simpsons or old Bugs Bunny cartoons and doing the voices, and...

'''MATT:''' In Mr. Turnipseed's algebra class, they would have, I did-, I didn't even realize my voice was changing—

'''MIKE:''' —You had a teacher named Mr. Turnipseed?!

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Really?!

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' Uh, I could do, when my voice was changing, it was only then, it was this short window of opportunity, I could do a really good Marge, and Mr. Turnipseed would, like, have me do it for the class, ''{Mike laughs}'' and I was just, it was just, I think, I would just say, like, "Oh Bart" or something like that, and, and my voice was, like, pubescent enough that I could squelch it out. Uh, but, so, no, I never got any formal training or anything like that. Um, uh, but, uh, I don't know, we start-, when we first started making the cartoon, Mike was just like, "Well, I'm not doing these voices, so you make something up." ''{Mike laughs}'' And, like, "All right, well, what about Coach Z?" and he was like, "I'm not doing that either."

'''MIKE:''' Well, Coach Z was a char-, he used to do this really depressing Midwestern guy or something. We'd just be hanging out or something, and Matt would just turn into this really depressing guy and like, ''{voice switches to an imitation of Coach Z}'' "Oh geez, I don't, things aren't going so good."

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' And so he's actually, I mean, Coach Z's become pretty depressing. Um, he'll just, like, get drunk instantaneously sometimes, and things like that, and this guy was even more depressing than Coach Z is, ''{Matt laughs}'' but...

'''MATT:''' Um, yeah...Anybody else? Questions? ''{Looks around the room}''

'''MIKE:''' We've got 17 minutes left, guys. C'mon.

'''MATT:''' ''{points behind him}'' Yeah?

'''Q: Where did Teen Girl Squad come from?'''

'''MATT:''' That really, that came from a, an e-mail, I mean, it was an e-mail that somebody sent. Actually, that's one of the, I think that's the only Strong Bad E-mail that was not sent to Strong Bad. It was actually sent to, uh, Mike and I, and they didn't, so it didn't say, "Dear Strong Bad" that was something we changed. It was just like an e-mail, and they were like, and I, you know, what she meant was, "Will you make a cartoon of me and my friends?" is what I'm assuming, and so it's just this girl that was like, "Oh hey, will you make a cartoon of my friends? Here are their names." And so I was like, "Oh, this, I gotta forward this to Strong Bad."

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' Did you actually do that?

'''MATT:''' No. No, I for-, I don't think I did forward it to him. I try to not treat the characters like they're real people, too.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' And, uh, and so the that was just, uh, uh, you know, we just really did it, and, um, and then decided that this could be something that would be fun to keep doing. And actually, that's one of my favorite, like, we, that's another thing that we don't do as often, and it's really, it's much easier, you know, obviously to make, because there's not a lot, there's no animation. There's just drawings. And, uh, but we've tried, so we could crank those out like crazy, but we try to keep it, I don't know, so it, it, it feels like that's something we could have made, gotten, some people already think it's already gotten old, but, like, we try, and I feel like the, the girls have taken on these, these much more, uh, in-depth lives than, than, than we ever thought possible.

''{Laughter. An audience member remarks, "They're probably not teens anymore."}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah. They wouldn't be if we were going by, like...

'''MIKE:''' Well, it's possible.

'''MATT:''' ''{Simultaneously}'' But see, Bart, Bart Simpson's been ten, ten years old for, like, whatever, for 15 years or something. So...

'''MIKE:''' They're 18 now.

'''MATT:''' Was there another...''{Points behind him}'' Yes.

'''Q: Yeah, the, the kind of style of humor that you guys have, has that, has that developed over the years, or has it just always been inane as brothers, like, just kind of, you know, because I have, I have a little brother, and we have a weird style of humor.'''

'''MATT:''' Right.

'''Q: It's just always how it's been, like, in that, ends up reflected in the way that you guys have favorite jokes, in a way, kinda quirky humor that you guys had background, and like...?'''

'''MATT:''' Yeah, I think it's definitely just, that's just the way we were, I mean, we've just been screwing around with each other and, like, in our whole family, like—

'''MIKE:''' —Hey now—

'''MATT:''' —there were all these dumb whole family inside jokes and stuff like that, and so, like, we just started making the cartoons just sort of to amuse ourselves.

'''Q: ''{same audience member}'' And that's, that's what I really found interesting about it was you were able to take that strange dynamic that is like, like, how do you express the weird family humor action so well and make it relate to other people. I thought that was really good.'''

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, we were, I was always encouraged when people would say that exact thing. It's like, you've, you know, I don't know, if there's just being shows and cartoons and being overwritten and written by ten people over a period of months, it sort of loses any sort of that, that, that was once there.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, not to, uh, I don't mean this in a derogatory way, uh, but it's sort of a commentary, no to, to diss on, uh, the Happy Tree Friends, but here was one episode of Happy Tree Friends where the, this, I think, it was the squirrel falls off of a cliff, and his guts just keep coming out, and, like, and, you know, it gets down to where it's, like, his toe or something comes out of his mouth. And it's pretty, you know, it's just like, very Itchy and Scratchy style, I mean, like that whole cartoon is. And, uh, at the end, it, there were 20 writers ''{Mike laughs}'' uh, for this cartoon. There was, it was like a 3-minute long cartoon, and it was mainly just a cat getting his, you know, a squirrel getting his guts ripped out, which is, you know, if that's, if that's your thing, that, that's great, that's funny, you know, whatever, but I was like, "Really? It took 20 people to be like, 'Oh wait, and ''then'' his stomach comes out'?"

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' "Oh, I never thought his stomach would come out. I just had his, I stopped at his lungs. And then we keep going down to his toe." And, like, it took this room full of 20 people writing that.

''{Audience member says something inaudible. Mike laughs.}''

'''MATT:''' Well, there you go. I didn't like, he's, I'm not trying to diss on them. It was just surprising to me that it was like, uh, yeah, like Mike said, I feel like a lot of stuff gets overwritten, and maybe more...

'''MIKE:''' The other thing is, we do all our stuff, pretty much, we try to put out a new cartoon on Monday. Back in the day, it used to be written and produced all day Sunday, but these days, it's a little more, usually, we're writing Thursday, and Friday and Saturday we're sort of recording and getting stuff done, and then Sunday is a mara-, marathon session of animating. Um, so everything's written and produced, like, within 2 or 3 days of you seeing it, so it's sort of an immediacy to it that wouldn't be there. That's why we've always not been interested in doing TV where you've got to write episodes six months in advance, and it's just, would lose some of, kinda some of the, uh, I don't know, spontaneity of the writing. You'd, you'd overthink something and not put in there. Whereas now, we're just like, four in the morning, and like, yeah let's just do that and, you know, it's, it's a double-edge sword. Sometimes that's probably yields terrible results but sometimes its good.

'''MATT:''' ''{looking around the room}'' Is there anybody that hasn't asked a question. ''{points to an audience member with his hand raised who's asked a question before}'' Not to...Yes. ''{points behind him}'' Yes.

'''Q: Yeah, um ''{inaudible}'' my question was since you don't have any financial sponsors or go into advertising, what kind of pressures do you put on yourself ''{inaudible}''?'''

'''MIKE:''' Well, it's mostly the pressure, we, you know, we try and not to disappoint fans. I mean, I think that for me, anyways, is more incentive to do something, to stay up late, to, um, you know, just give the people that have supported us, you know, what they're expecting. So it's not, you know, we're not trying, not to let any financial things influence what we do. Um...

'''MATT:''' Yeah, cause remember, we got, we, we didn't get, we got to this point by not caring. We didn't set out to start a business. We were just kind of amusing ourselves and so, it was like, that works to get it to where it is, so it's like, if we started to think about, like, "Oh well, we should bring this character back because it was a big seller," then that would, you know, change it and probably make it worse. So...

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, so it's definitely been a challenge, you know, going from it being a spare time, something we do for fun into our job. There is that sort of balance that you've got to, um, deal with, but we try not to let the, you know, money side affect any of the creative side at all.

'''MATT:''' Our sister lives in Alpharetta and works out of there, so we, we rarely see her. She does all the business stuff., so ''{Laughs}'' Keep her physically far away from us. ''{Mike laughs. Matt points in front of him}'' Yeah, and you had another question.

'''Q: Who made the puppets?'''

'''MATT:''' Uh, our friend, uh, Lucky Yates. Uh, he, uh, is a local, he used to work at the Center for Puppetry Arts, and now he, like, works, he's an improviser in Dad's Garage, and him and this guy Chris Brown—who are both just local puppeteer guys—um, made all our puppets.

'''MIKE:''' Again, we were friends with them before, you know, we just had friends that were good puppeteers, so like, "Hey, make us some puppets", and if it wasn't for that, we would have never gotten puppets made.

'''MATT:''' Yeah....''{Points in front of him}'' Yes?

'''Q: Um, I know you guys—'''

'''MATT:''' ''{Pointing to the current audience member speaking to stop another member who was about to speak}'' —No, um—

'''Q: —show up at, like, conventions sometimes, like, how's your relation—'''

'''MATT:''' —One time. ''{Mike laughs}''

'''Q: ...um, how's your relationship with, like, other, um, like, artists in, like, the online comic community, and...'''

'''MATT:''' Um, there's a, we don't talk to a lot of them. We have to be kind of heads down in trying to do something every week, you know, uh, for us anyways. And, um, but—

'''MIKE:''' —we talked to the Red vs. Blue people.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, we met the guys from Red vs. Blue. They were all nice, um, dudes. We met them, actually, we did met them at a, at like, where was that? At South by Southwest.

'''MIKE:''' ''{Simultaneously}'' At South by Southwest, yeah.

'''MATT:''' And, um, the guy that does Dinosaur comics. Anybody know Dinosaur comics?

''{A couple of audience members in the back shout "Yeah."}''

'''MATT:''' Um...

'''MIKE:''' it's really good.

'''MATT:''' That's, uh, qwantz.com, I think is the website. Um, we, Mike just bought me some stuff for, uh, Christmas from there and the guy was like, saw his e-mail address and was like, "Hey, Homestar Runner. That's awesome." And so we became, became just sort of e-mail friends with that guys. So we, um, but, uh, yeah, I don't really, it's the sort of thing where we're not trying to be, like, antisocial, but we don't, uh, if we, if we sought, like, support from the rest of the, like, you know, web comic, web cartoon community, we could hopefully find it, but I don't, we, we just haven't, like, we're just three dudes.

'''MIKE:''' We're trying to put all of, uh, all of them out of business anyways, so, it's best if we don't—

'''MATT:''' That's not—

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' —know who they are.

'''MATT:''' ''{Points in front of him}'' Um, there was a question over there?

'''Q: ''{inaudible}'' '''

'''MATT:''' ''{Cups his ears to hear better}'' Do we have new what?

'''Q: ...T-shirts here?'''

'''MATT:''' With us? Not, well, I can take... ''{pretends to take his T-shirt off}''

''{Laughter. A woman in the back yells "whoo".}''

'''MATT:''' Uh, no, we didn't bring any, any merch. I'm sorry. Uh, ''{looks at Ryan}'' will you run the merch table next time?

''{Laughter. Ryan says something inaudible.}''

'''MATT:''' ''{Turns around and points behind him}'' Yes?

'''Q: Do you find it hard not to wear your own T-shirts? '''

'''MATT:''' Uh, it's, it's pretty easy. Most of the ones with the characters now, we, we've started making these shirts that aren't, like, a character, it's like, there's one that says, "My baby got stole by a bear holding a shark." There's one that, uh, I saw ''{points to an audience member behind him with a Videlectrix shirt on}'' yeah, the one with the Videlectrix 500—

'''MIKE:''' —Yeah, I noticed.

'''MATT:''' —disk on it. Uh...

''{Laughter.}''

'''MATT:''' ..Like, we're now, we're making shirts more that we would wear. I mean, not that we didn't want to wear the, the characters before, and we used to, uh, back in the day before, like, anybody knew what we were doing, uh, but now, it is, you know, I mean, not that people ever know who we are or recognize us, but it would be weird, to be like, you know, you're wearing your shirt, and someone's like, "Oh hey, are you one of the Homestar Runner guys?" and you're just like, "Yeah..." ''{Bows his head in mock embarrassment}''

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' I saw a, I saw "Stone Cold" Steve Austin in the airport a few years ago, and he had a hat and jacket on, and I saw him from afar and thought, "Oh, he's trying to, you know, blend in," and then, until I noticed he was wearing a Stone Cold shirt and a WWF hat.

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' It's like, "Oh wait, he's not trying to blend in at all." ''{Laughs}''

'''MATT:''' Anybody else? ''{Points to his right}'' Yes.

'''Q: Okay, this is kind of a, uh, personal request. I don't know how familiar you guys are with, uh, Georgia Tech traditions or anything like that, but, uh, could you get, uh, Strong Bad to say, "What's the good word?" '''

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' Who, what is, what, can you explain briefly what the...?

'''Q: ''{same audience member}'' Um, the tradition is, um, you say, um, "What's the good word?" and then, uh, the response will be "To {{{swear|hell}}} with Georgia." '''

'''MATT:''' Oh, okay.

'''Q: You say, "What's the good word?" We say, "To {{{swear|hell}}} with Georgia" again. You say "What's the good word," "To {{{swear|hell}}} with Georgia." And then you say, "How bout them Dawgs?" and you'll find out what the response to that is.'''

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' Um, should I do it, Mike? Is this...

'''MIKE:''' I'm not comfortable with this, being a UGA alumn.

'''MATT:''' Mike went to UGA. I don't, don't know. Um...

''{An audience member says "Maybe we should submit, George P. Burdell send you guys an e-mail."}''

'''MATT:''' Who?

''{Same audience member says "George P. Burdell." Another audience member says "Yeah, he's our fake student. We have a fake student at Georgia Tech." Matt laughs.}''

'''MIKE:''' Nice.

''{Another audience member says, "A long story." The previous member says, "He's better than anyone else at this school." Matt laughs.}''

'''MATT:''' Um, I don't know. Should I do this?

''{An audience member says, "Yes."}''

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, do it. Sure.

'''MATT:''' And so I say, "What's the good word?"

''{An audience member says, "Yeah."}''

'''MATT:''' Um...

'''STRONG BAD:''' What's the good word?!

''{Audience cries out in unison, "To {{{swear|hell}}} with Georgia!" After a second, someone in the audience says, "Say it again."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What—?

'''MIKE:''' Say ''{inaudible}'' again.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Simultaneously}'' Again?

''{Laughter}'''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What's the good, what is again the good word?!

''{Audience cries out in unison, "To {{{swear|hell}}} with Georgia!" }''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm supposed to say it a third time?!

''{An audience member says, "Yes."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{hesitates}'' WHAT'S THE GOOD WORD?!

''{Audience cries out in unison, "To {{{swear|hell}}} with Georgia!" }''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Then wh-, then what's my next line?!

''{An audience member replies, "How 'bout them Dawgs?"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' How 'bout them Dawgs?!

''{Audience cries out in unison, "{{{swear|Piss}}} on 'em."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That was...

'''MIKE:''' That's it?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Is this suppos-, like, so am I supposed to envision a picture of a yellow jacket taking a leak on a bulldog?

''{Laughter}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's the most disturbing thing ever.

''{Continued laughter}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You should make those, like, they have the Calvin {{{swear|pissing}}} on Hobbes, Calvin peeing on, you know, Dale Earnhardt, Sandra Bernhard. ''{Matt looks at Mike}'' I'm gonna settle that one. Young man's daughter, maybe.

''{Continued laughter}''

''{The audience member who asked the original question says, "Thanks, though. That was awesome." Audience applauds.}''

'''MATT:''' That'll be five hundred dollars.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' Uh, anything else? I think we're almost out of time here. ''{Points in front of him}'' Yes.

'''Q: I mean, you guys were talking about things ''{inaudible}''. Outside of Homestar Runner cartoons, what do you guys do for fun?'''

'''MATT:''' Uh, what do we do for fun? We are, we live in Decatur and all are homeowners, so we hang out at each other's, so Ryan's got an awesome porch. We grill out. Ryan's a home brewer, so we go to drink Ryan's beer at his house, which is good. ''{Ryan nods}'' We, uh, I got a, I got a Nintendo Wii that I don't play as often as I'd like to.

''{An audience member says, "Yeah."}''

'''MATT:''' Uh, so we, you know, we like video games. We, um...

'''MIKE:''' We play basketball sometimes.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, we play, we can shoot hoops in the morning, sometimes. We, uh, try and do other dumb creative stuff on the side, like Mike just got this awesome—

'''MIKE:''' ''{Points to Ryan}'' —like Ryan's shirt.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Ryan's shirt ''{Ryan pulls out the front of his shirt}'' that says, "Orange is {{{swear|shit}}}." Mike made that. ''{Mike laughs}'' It's a, it's an orange that's smiling. It says, "Orange is {{{swear|shit}}}." Uh, so we're always trying to do other dum-, you know, if we're not doing Homestar. It does sometimes, not necessarily tap you out, but it's a nice thing, like doing that, um, that, uh, They Might Be Giants, like, videos is actually fun sometimes to do something that's not, you know, on the website.

'''RYAN STERRITT:''' ''{Turns to Matt}'' ''{inaudible}'' made, made real quick.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Uh, yeah, we were making, we were trying to, like, daring each other to just make short films and edit them and be, like, the idea was that, like, within two hours you had to make a movie and edit it and have a DVD that you could bring over to somebody's house, and called that "Made Real Quick". Um, I don't know. What else? Where do we hang out? Do we hang out?

'''MIKE:''' Our houses, yeah.

'''MATT:''' ''{Laughs}'' We never leave Decatur.

'''MIKE:''' We're...becoming domesticated.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Mike's got a baby. I've got one on the way. Um, so, uh, so you gotta come over, if you...

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' If you want to hang out with us.

'''MIKE:''' We're a load of fun.

'''MATT:''' At our house...Um...

'''Q: What's the address?'''

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' Uh, anything else?

''{Laughter. Mike points to a student at a terminal behind him who's been working relentlessly on an architecture project since before the Brothers Chaps arrived.}''

'''MIKE:''' This guy's a master of sketch-up over here.

''{Ryan and Matt turn around to look at the student. Student says, "No, I'm not." Laughter.}''

'''MIKE:''' Look at that.

''{Joel says something inaudible and then stands up from behind the Brothers Chaps.}''

'''JOEL LINDERMAN:''' Is there any more questions? Anybody else? Well, uh, I have, I have a poster over here, and you guys are welcome to sign it. I've got Sharpies, so you can show your appreciation for Homestar Runner. Uh, write little notes, but don't write a book, cause, like, there's a lot of people, so might need some room on there. And, um, the, if you just want to give them a hand for coming, taking the time...

''{Audience applauds}''

'''MIKE:''' Thanks, guys.

''{Matt waves and says something inaudible. Fade out.}''

==Photos==
<gallery>
Image:20070426 GA Tech event venue.jpg|The venue
</gallery>

==External Links==
*[http://hdl.handle.net/1853/14302 Download the video of the event] (148 MB)
*[http://smartech.gatech.edu/bitstream/1853/14302/5/Home_Star_Runner.html View the streaming video of the event]
*[http://www.library.gatech.edu/ Georgia Tech Library website]
*[http://www.library.gatech.edu/calendar/functions/popup.php?ev=2454217&readFile=1&readSQL=0&showCat=16|18|21&oc=1 Georgia Tech Library Calendar info for the event]
*[http://smartech.gatech.edu/bitstream/1853/14302/1/homestar.pdf Poster for the event (PDF)]
*[http://theubiquitouslibrarian.typepad.com/the_ubiquitous_librarian/2007/04/homestar_takes_.html The Ubiquitous Librarian post on the event]
*[[Forum:11324|Forum thread re: "Georgia Tech - 26 Apr 2007"]]

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Georgia Tech - 26 Apr 2007

0rion — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:06:41 GMT

0rion: /* Part I: Demo */ Spelling error, link in dialogue.

[[Image:20070426 GA Tech event poster.png|thumb|Event poster]]
On April 26, 2007, [[The Brothers Chaps]] appeared at a talk at the Multimedia Studio of [[Wikipedia:Georgia Institute of Technology|Georgia Tech]]. The event was scheduled to include Q&A, background info, a [[Flash]] demo and more.

The event took place in the Library on the Georgia Tech campus. It was organized by Alison Valk and Joel Linderman. It took place in the multimedia studio that houses all of their high end multimedia software and equipment, as well as being "homebase" for the Georgia Tech iMovieFest. The studio is currently decked out as "[[wikipedia:Mario|Mario]]-land" and discussions have taken place regarding the possibility of doing a [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] theme for the summer months.

Due to various programs on campus and the high interest of many of the students there in Flash animation, Alison and Joel felt The Brothers Chaps would be ideal speakers. Alison focused on the idea of collaborating with her management to bring in some "nontraditional speakers" to the library, such as "the guys from Homestar Runner".

==Transcript==
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===Part I: Demo===
''{The video fades in to a shot of the event poster, where it lingers for a few seconds before cross-fading to the Georgia Tech Multimedia Studio. Ryan, Matt and Mike are sitting near a row of computers, and Alison and Joel are standing behind them. Mike has his laptop in front of him, which is connected to a projector displaying his monitor on a screen to his left. The audience surrounds them on three sides.}''

'''ALISON VALK:''' —he heads up the Multimedia Studio here, and uh, we are really, really lucky to have the guys from Homestar Runner here. Um, if you don't know what Homestar Runner is, it is one of the most popular, uh, Flash-animated cartoons on the web, and, uh, these guys have been written up in the ''New York Times'', ''Wired'', been interviewed for ''All Things Considered''. Um, you guys have worked with They Might Be Giants, is that right?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Mmm-hmm.

'''ALISON:''' And anyways, but, um, we're really, really lucky to have them here. They're going to, uh, do a Flash demo for us and answer a few questions that you guys might have. So, without further ado, Mike and Matt Chapman.

'''MIKE:''' Thanks, Alison.

''{Applause}''

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' And this, this is Ryan, uh, Sterritt. ''{Points to Ryan on his right}'' He works with us and does, uh, authors all our DVDs and does all our video stuff also.

'''MIKE:''' Um...Matt?

'''MATT:''' Hi everybody.

'''MIKE:''' Um, thanks for having us by the way, guys. This place is pretty awesome. Uh, Alison was trying to get me to do it, and I am generally really, uh, nervous about doing this kind of stuff, but when she showed me pictures of how it's all decked out like Mario Land, I decided it would make me feel very comfortable, which it really hasn't because I'm still pretty nervous, but anyway...

''{Some members of the audience let out a collective "Awwww..."}''

'''MIKE:''' Um...

'''MATT:''' It's good to be back in the Mushroom Kingdom.

'''MIKE:''' ''{Laughs}'' And the last time I was on the Georgia Tech campus was probably in like 1986 for the Science Olympiad when, uh, which was just kind of math— mathletes kind of, but uh, I had to do this event called Bottle Music where you filled up bottles with different amounts of water and make a song hitting them with a spoon and I didn't want to do it, so we pushed the kid that was holding our box of bottles so that they broke so that we didn't have to compete.

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' Um, so...

'''MATT:''' Good job!

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. ''{Laughs}''

'''MATT:''' One time I went to Bobby Cremin's basketball camp in fourth grade. It was a stay-overnight camp.

'''MIKE:''' ''{Laughs}''

'''MATT:''' It was awesome. And these kids trying to get me to cuss and I wasn't cussing yet.

'''MIKE:''' ''{Laughs}''

'''MATT:''' ''{With Mike laughing throughout}'' And they were like, "Say a cuss." And they were like, "You never cuss, Chapman," and I was like, "You don't know, I cuss all the time. What are you talking about?" And they were like, "Well then, say a cuss word," and so, uh, so that everything would be okay, and I would still go to heaven, I was like, I go, "Shet," and in— in my head it was S–H–E–T, but they totally bought it and thought I said "{{{swear|shit}}}" and then I was cool.

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' Um, so anyway, we do a website called homestarrunner.com. We've been doing it for seven, over seven years now, and it is, uh, it's pretty much been our sole job for like the last five now. Um, and it's just Flash-animated cartoons on the web. We make money by selling T-shirts. We don't have any ads on the site or anything like that. The only revenue is from people buying shirts and DVDs and the merchandise that we sell, uh, on the site. Um, and so anyway, we were just, they asked us to just to do a little demo about how we do stuff, and it's pretty funny because all these computers are decked out and much nicer than the computers that we make Homestar on. Um, we use Flash 5, which, I think, they're on Flash 8 now, so the version of Flash we use is about four, four years outdated. Um, for various lazy reasons, mostly, just not wanting to, uh, you know, get used to the minor changes and interface and things like that.

'''MATT:''' Well, we definitely work faster. There's, uh, several things that we can do way faster in Flash 5 than we can in 8. Uh, we, we publish everything in Flash 8 because it compresses everything so much more. Like, we'll make a cartoon in Flash 5, and it'll be, like, one and a half megs, and then you put it in Flash 8, and it's 700k or something, so it, it really makes a difference, so, uh, to keep bandwidth under control, we do that sort of thing. But, um...

''{Mike brings up Flash 5 on the screen. The animation window is blank except for an image of Homestar on the far right.}''

'''MIKE:''' So there's beautiful Flash 5, and it was back before Adobe sued Macromedia, so they could have tabbed folders over here. ''{Starts clicking around the tabs in the right-hand menus in the Flash interface}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that's another—

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' That's another thing we like.

'''MATT:''' Well, I guess now that they've merged, or, you know, that, that Adobe bought Macromedia, the next version of Flash supposedly is going to bring back the little tabs over there, but that's, that was one of the biggest reasons why we kept using 5 was because it was so much easier to use from an organizational standpoint. Um...

'''MIKE:''' So I was just going to show, what we generally do is we've got, um, you know, several hundred cartoons at this point, so obviously we don't need to redraw all the characters for every cartoon. We can reuse graphics, so I'll just open up this library. Um...something that has, say, the background in it. And, um... ''{peruses through library}''

'''MATT:''' We never organize things in folders because that would make it too easy to find.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, so there's just like 200 something items.

'''MATT and MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' There it is, "Ground".

'''MIKE:''' So I'll make a thing down here and drag it in. ''{Drags an image of the Field onto the animation window}'' And sky is for some reason called "Sky2".

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' "Sky2". It's been called "Sky2", that symbol probably for six years for no reason. We've never changed it to just "Sky". ''{drags an image of the sky down and arranges it behind the Field}'' And then we also have a, uh...little border that we put over everything to give everything a nice rounded edge. ''{Places a black rectangular border with rounded corners over the animation window. }'' Because round things are nice.

'''MATT:''' Homestar's on top of the border.

'''MIKE:''' Well, I'll drag the border up in front of him. ''{Rearranges the border so that it's in front of Homestar}'' So, anyway, um, this is the magic of making Homestar walk. So we've got this "walk" clip. ''{Plays a looping clip of Homestar walking}'' It's its own ten-frame graphic that just loops, and so we'll just tween it from there to there, and then at that point I've already broken him apart into four, um, layers, with each part being on a layer. And I'll flip that foot and make him so that he's sort of facing that way. And we animate everything at 12 frames a second, um—

'''MATT:''' —cause that's what you did in 1999.

'''MIKE:''' In 1999, that's, that's all—

'''MATT:''' —all the Internet could handle.

'''MIKE:''' Um, and that's how we learned to animate, so we have rarely...done a few things at 18 or 24 frames a second, and of course it takes us way longer, so we, we stick with 12. Um...

'''MATT:''' Its funny we, for when we do DVDs, there's a, we do a, a fake FBI warning thing at the beginning, you know, like the one from the '80s with that fading background, and then one of the characters will always come out over it, and in order for that fadey background to look good in Flash, we'd have to make it at 30 frames per second, and I think that was just easy, too, because all video's at 30 frames, obviously, or 29.97 or whatever. And, uh, and so then we have to animate the characters at 30 frames per second, and that's a huge pain in the {{{swear|ass}}}.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' It's just like, it takes, like, The Cheat...

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Yeah. It takes like three days.

'''MATT:''' ...usually, like, The Cheat, when he turns around, it's, like, two frames, and he just goes, like, "doink" and flips around the other side, so this way we'd have to, like, make some real frame of The Cheat turning. And, anyways, it's a, it's, we're, we're glad that the things were the way they were in '99. So we, uh, definitely makes it much quicker. Plus we do, you know, we're trying to make a three- to five-minute cartoon pretty much every week, and so animating it at 12 frames per second definitely makes that possible. I feel like if we tried to animate quicker, at least for us, I'm sure there's people that can, that do it, but for us, that's, that's the way we can get something done.

''{Mike, who has been modifying with the animation the entire time Matt's been talking, now plays it. Homestar walks in from the right and stops in the middle of the animation window.}''

'''MIKE:''' ''{dryly}'' So, did you see that, guys? Look, he's stopped walking. Isn't that amazing?

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' And this is a, this is a, a trick that Matt patented, it's called the "Doink", where it just kind of goes up and down when you're transitioning from one thing to another, just make him kind of pop up a little bit. For some reason, it makes it look better.

'''MATT:''' We learned that people call that in the cartooning industry, we met a guy that just graduated from SCAD, and it's called "squash and stretch" ''{Mike laughs}'' in the animation industry. But I was like, "No, that's doinking."

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' And that's another thing, we, um...

'''MATT:''' "You can't fool me."

'''MIKE:''' We're totally self-taught animators and illustrators. Uh, I was a photography major at uh, University of Georgia, and Matt went to film school at Florida State, um, and then we both kind of realized we didn't want to do ''that'' as our careers and just started teaching ourselves Photoshop and Illustrator and Flash. And Homestar was originally just a, a tool, something to learn Flash with because we were going to try to get jobs, you know, making banner ads for, you know, icebox.com or whatever was the, um, Flash-animated—

'''MATT:''' Yeah, I got one of those jobs.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, Matt, Matt worked at MindSpring and then, which became EarthLink, um, for several years.

'''MATT:''' Made some sweet banner ads for EarthLink.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, we just discovered, uh, buried in some EarthLink pages, there's still some icons that you made like six years ago or something.

'''MATT:''' If you go to the EarthLink personal start page in the accounting section, or banking section, there's a few of my icons still up there. ''{Laughter}'' I was proud. My legacy lives on. ''{Laughter}'' I'm not going to show my kids Homestar Runner when they grow up. I'm going to be, like, ''{raises voice to higher pitch}'' "Hey, you know what your dad did? He made this, this, like, market sign that has a, one graph going up and it's red, and the green graph is going down." Which is wrong, cause the green graph should probably be growing.

''{Matt turns to Mike, who's still editing the Flash clip.}''

'''MATT:''' So are you going to make him say a line?

'''MIKE:''' We're going to make him say a line of dialogue, and I will—

'''MATT:''' ''{Who had briefly interrupted}'' Sorry.

'''MIKE:''' No no no no.

'''MATT:''' I was just going to say why, uh, this is one of the things that we love about Flash, uh, 5, and again, there's, there's probably several things. We've tried to have people tell us this, like, oh, you know, you can do that in Flash 8, we just didn't know how to do it. This is something that I don't think you can do, is that...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{on screen}'' Oh, hello.

'''MATT:''' Like, show him, so like, um...

'''MIKE:''' Um, so his head is here on frame 2. Another thing that, you know, people know Flash, if you make everything a symbol and put every symbol on its own layer, it just makes things a lot easier from an organizational standpoint. So, um, to make Homestar talk, he's got three faces: closed mouth, that mouth, and that mouth. The "O" mouth.

'''MATT:''' The roundy mouth.

'''MIKE:''' The roundy mouth, squarey mouth, and closed mouth. So it's really easy to animate. We accidentally made all these characters very easy to animate. Most of them don't have arms or legs. Several of them don't have mouths or anything like that. We, you know, created the characters in 1996 before we were ever going to animate them, so we totally lucked out. The characters that do have arms and, like, elbows and things, you know, we just tend not to put into cartoons very much.

'''MATT:''' ''{Laughs}'' That's why Bubs is always behind a concession stand.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' So you don't have to mess with his legs.

'''MIKE:''' Bubs's frickin' elbows. Um, but, so anyway, it's three frames, and I've got it set to single frame at 1, so when he's not talking, it's just going to stay closed. If I put a...um, not on that frame...if I put a key frame and make it go to frame 3, that's his "O" mouth, and so I can just click on this frame. And this is one of the things that's different between Flash 8 and Flash 5. In Flash 5, I can just click on these frames, and I can still hear the sound. ''{Clicks in individual frames, producing a frame's worth of dialogue with each click.}'' So I know right there he's stopped saying "oh", and so I can put that, and he's starting to say "heh", so I can make that. And then I can just cut and paste. He's saying "oh". ''{Starts rapidly cutting and pasting frames.}'' Right now, I'm just cut-and-pasting frames rather than keep going back down here to type in frame 2 or 3. I know which ones are which.

'''MATT:''' We don't necessarily, we, most of you can probably, that do Flash animation can probably animate way better than we can, and we're, so we're not saying this is how you have to do it. But this is, this is just our process.

'''MIKE:''' I don't even know what he's saying here, so it would help if I listened to the soundbyte ''{Laughter}'' so I knew what he was saying.

'''MATT:''' We recorded this right before we left.

''{Mike plays the audio clip.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{on screen}'' Oh, hello guys. This is my talk and mouth move.

'''MIKE:''' "This is my talk and mouth move" is what it sounds like he's saying..."Hello guys." And do we have volume? ''{Turns up the volume and continues cutting and pasting mouth movements to the audio clips}''

'''MATT:''' There we go.

'''MIKE:''' So I can just sit here and click until he starts to say "my."

'''MATT:''' So yeah in, uh, Flash, uh...

'''MIKE:''' In Flash 8, I would have to sit here and do that. ''{drags the marker across the audio clip}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah, if you drag it across, you'll hear the sound, but when you click on the frame, you don't hear that one little, like, you know, frame's worth of sound, which is, makes it so much easier when you're lip-syncing dialogue. Um, and that's, that's, like, that alone is one of the reasons why we, we still use this five-year-old, six-year-old version of Flash.

'''MIKE:''' So he's saying "mouth," so I'll get the "m"— or the "o". "Mouth" ... "Great times."

'''MATT:''' That's another thing with, with Homestar, uh, in doing it at 12 frames per second, I mean, uh, you could, we could add a mouth, you know, a half-closed mouth, or, like a, another in between the "o" and the, the square mouth or something like that, but like, it actually, at 12 frames per second, I mean, you're not going to get that much more in between. You're not going to see that much more.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, its already hard enough now. Sometimes you have to decide where he closes his mouth, because he sort of closes his mouth halfway in between two frames.

''{Mike finishes syncing Homestar's mouth movements to the audio and now plays the entire clip.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{on screen}'' Oh, hello guys. This is my talk and mouth move. Great times.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' There you go.

'''MIKE:''' ''{still modifying the animation}'' And so what I would do probably is go ahead and give him a little...and he's kind of...So I can make him move around a little bit, maybe. For an interesting line, like...

''{Mike plays the clip again.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{on screen}'' Oh, hello guys. ''{doinks}'' This is ''{leans forward}'' my ''{turns his upper body around}'' talk— ''{resumes his normal posture as the audience laughs}''

'''MIKE:''' I might try a little harder to make that look better, but...actually, I might, I probably wouldn't try. Matt's generally a better animator, so that anytime you see really, like, just like, "Hi, I'm Strong Bad" animation, that's me, and Matt will make him, like, move around a little more. I'm just trying to plow through these things. ''{Laughs}'' Matt, generally, I do about, like, I don't know, 70%—

'''MATT:''' —75—

'''MIKE:''' —60 to 75% of the cartoon I do, and then Matt does any complicated scene with a lot of characters where there's actually some kind of action other than just characters talking Matt will do, and spend, like, five days on them, and then I'll just plow through the rest of the cartoon. Um...

'''MATT:''' And Mike also, while I'm recording stuff, Mike starts to do, you know, the rest of the cartoon, so I'll be—

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, I'll do—

'''MATT:''' —recording the dialogue and breaking apart and all that stuff, and then Mike's just getting busy on starting the cartoon or placing scenes.

'''MIKE:''' Doing new graphics, if there's any unique, you know, new drawings, we try to reuse stuff as much as possible, but inevitably, there's going to be some objects or backgrounds or something that we need to draw new.

'''MATT:''' We'll start out a week and be like, "All right, this, you know, last week was rough. We did, like, three all-nighters to get this cartoon done, so it's, this one will try and stick with just," you know, not to make it jokes we've done before, but just, "oh, all take place in Bubs' Concession Stand or places we've already established," and then inevitably, we end up, like, inventing a movie theater for this cartoon, or, like, having some new thing happen that we have to make a bunch of new graphics, or, um...We're always shooting ourselves in the foot that way.

'''MIKE:''' Um...What else, Matt?

'''MATT:''' Why don't you just show, show them that uh, the cartoon, so show them something in, in action a little more.

'''MIKE:''' Um, like "The Accent"?

'''MATT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' The accent one, yeah.

'''MIKE:''' So this is—

'''MATT:''' We have a, an HTML?

'''MIKE:''' I do. Why don't you tell them what this is?

'''MATT:''' Uh, so this is just, uh, we're putting out another DVD, uh, it's time, we're, we've gotten another 30 Strong Bad E-mails done, and so we're, we've, we've compiled them onto a, uh, DVD at that point, uh, and add them with extra features and commentary and all that crap, and so, we try to put, you know, bonus stuff on it to make it worthwhile, and, uh, so this is a, a bonus e-mail that's going on the new Strong Bad E-mail DVD.

'''MIKE:''' This is a question that Strong Bad gets asked a lot, and so we've finally just, as a bonus thing, we've decided we'd answer it. Um...

''{Plays the Strong Bad E-mail [[Accent]].}''

'''MIKE:''' So that's that. That's kind of a, um—

''{Mike is interrupted as everybody applauds.}''

'''MIKE:''' That's what we do. That's, Strong Bad E-mails are the cartoons we do probably, I don't know, two or three out of every four updates is one of those. We've done, uh, 170-something at this point? ''{Turns to Matt.}''

'''MATT:''' Mmmm hmmm.

'''MIKE:''' Um, over the last five or six years. Um, making Strong Bad's head waggle around in front of the text and making the text animate, that's one of the, my specialties. That is really not fun to animate text being typed across the screen. But, um, anyway...

'''MATT:''' We've tried to, we've tried a couple of times to figure out a way to automate that, but Flash can't, can't look at a wav file and, uh, and, like, interpret what it is. We were like, wanted to figure out a way where we could just bring in the the sound file of Strong Bad and just have it be like, okay, when he gets loud, his head goes up.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' When he gets soft, his head waggles And then we could just, like, plug it in and the action script would do the rest, but nobody could, nobody could figure that out for us. Um...

'''MIKE:''' I found a few things laying around my file fol-, uh, my folder that we've never done anything with, and most of them, I don't even know why I made them.

''{Mike plays a looping animation that shows Homestar leaping up into the air and then turning around and falling back to the ground head-first. He's wearing a yellow helmet covering his eyes and matching kneepads.}''

'''MATT:''' What's this one?

'''MIKE:''' It's just Homestar, just with a helmet and kneepads on flying up in the air.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' What is that from?

'''MIKE:''' I don't know. ''{Laughs}''

'''MATT:''' That, a nice ''{inaudible}''. That's from uh, from uh...

''{Offscreen, an audience member suggests "[[monster truck]]."}''

'''MATT:''' Monster truck one, yeah?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Who said that? ''{Offscreen, an audience member behind the Brothers Chaps says "yeah" and raises his hand.}'' Nice.

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' Impressive. Um...

'''MATT:''' That's another thing, is there's a, uh, there's a Wikipeda, a Home-, it's its own thing, a Homestar Wiki online, that is, uh, amazing and ridiculous and kind of frightening.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' And uh, and we use it, like, anytime they have, like, a, a drive, they'll have a drive because it's all just, uh, whatever, just people volunteering to do it, and so that their cost of bandwidth and everything is, is just, uh, out of pocket, and so anytime they have a drive, we try and donate to it, because we use it probably more than—

''{Stops and laughs along with the audience at another looping animation clip that Mike is playing. This one shows a squat, boxy Homestar falling headfirst into a line with three other identical Homestars and a similarly-shaped Strong Bad. He then bounces across the screen with the words "Going Away" in the background.}''

'''MATT:''' It's going away!

'''MIKE:''' Another thing I made for no reason.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah. But so, we uh, we use that wiki all the time because we'll be like, we'll look, you know, start to make a cartoon and be like, "All right, what's the one where Bubs has a toilet brush, why he has a toilet brush in some cartoon?" and then, uh, so you just look up toilet brush on the, uh...What is that?

''{Mike and the audience laugh at a looping animation of a sketch of Homestar doing the Keep On Truckin' walk.}''

'''MIKE:''' I'm not done animating that, though.

'''MATT:''' That's the Keep On Trucking guy. Yeah, uh...isn't that from that sketchbook drawing?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, there's a sketchbook drawing Matt made of that, and I just decided to, I haven't gotten very far, but I at least got the rough—

'''MATT:''' You're keeping all these secrets from me.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, this is the one I, I found this this morning. I had no idea why I made it or what it is.

''{Mike plays a looping animation of a squat, black-and-white shaded Strong Bad shaded in blue punching the air in a ready fighting position. The audience laughs}''

'''MIKE:''' It's called "SB style".

'''MATT:''' Let's make a T-shirt of that.

'''MIKE:''' ''{Laughs}''

'''MATT:''' I like that.

'''MIKE:''' Um...Yeah, uh, and then there's the...

''{Mike tries to open up a file in Flash 5 but receives an error message.}''

'''MATT:''' Oh, that's in Flash 8.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah...We're gonna do one where it looks like, it's kind of a rough animatic, you know, you see the pencil in-between drawings of, like, Disney cartoons and stuff before they...

''{Mike plays a looping animation that shows a sketch of Strong Bad bobbing his head to the side.}''

'''MATT:''' Is that all it does?

'''MIKE:''' That's all it does. ''{Laughs with audience.}'' I spent like, five minutes on that one. But I was just making sure it could work, and it looked, you know, looked okay.

'''MATT:''' How to draw Strong Bad the Marvel way.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah ''{Laughs.}''....Um, by the way, anyone if you've got questions during this, you can feel free to ask questions now.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, are we done showing other things we need to show?

'''MIKE:''' Um...

'''MATT:''' Show them that, show them the, uh, the, uh, the Atari game real quick.

'''MIKE:''' Oh yeah.

'''MATT:''' You have that?

'''MIKE:''' That's one of our, um...lifelong dreams. We've got a friend who programs, uh, games for the 2600, and he actually makes cartridges and so, I don't know, we started talking to him three or four years ago, and we wanted to, you know, actually make an Atari game, you know, 2004 or whatever. Still hasn't come out yet, so it'll be even funnier when it comes out in in 2012...

'''MATT:''' ''{Laughs with audience.}''

'''MIKE:''' ...producing that, the Atari 2600 game. ''{Staring at his computer.}'' Um, how do I do this?

'''MATT:''' Uh, just...uh, I guess try and drag it on top of it, try and drag "HS" onto that... ''{Windows error sound plays.}'' Ah, no.

'''MIKE:''' Can I just do this?

'''MATT:''' ''{inaudible}'' ''{Windows error sound plays}'' I don't know. Ah, you probably have to install it.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' You can't do it.

'''MIKE:''' All right. Sorry. False alarm. But anyway, its um, you know really is on a, a cartridge and so we, with the graphics, we're like, uh, 8 by 8 grid of asterisks that you had to...

'''MATT:''' Yeah, so he sent us, he'd be like, "Here, make some graphics and send us the template," and it was just a text file that had, yeah, it was like, there was like 16 by 8 gr-, sideways grid of asterisks, and then you made the stuff you wanted to be pixels be, uh, dashes instead or something, and so you're making them sideways and stretched out, and then he'd put them in the game, and then it's like, "Oh, there's Strong Sad." That's pretty cool.

'''MIKE:''' Um, this is the, um, Georgia Tech reference on the site. We made a video game that's tried to be, like, the worst video game ever, ''{Audience laughs}'' and, um, it was like track-and-field, one of those games where you have to mash buttons really fast, but it was a race-walking game, and, um...

''{The camera pans out to reveal that the game in question is [[50K Racewalker]].}''

'''MIKE:''' You have to press left and right alternately, but you can't go too fast or you foot fault, and literally, it would take like a day to win, to go 50 K.

'''MATT:''' Oh, no, more than that!

'''MIKE:''' It's like several days—

'''MATT:''' —three weeks—

'''MIKE:''' —or something. But anyway, so we made it so, for no reason, you can totally customize the way the character looked. And uh....

'''MATT:''' Only the, the only fun part of the game.

'''MIKE:''' And there's four or five um, four or five people that we made, uh, where if you make it look a certain way, and I think it's...yellow...black...yellow...

''{Mike selects these colors for the runner's shirt, shorts and shoes respectively. The words "Luke Schenscher" appear on the bottom of the screen.}''

'''MIKE:''' ...I think that's right. Yeah, it becomes Luke Sen-, Luke Schenscher, who was the—

''{The audience laughs.}''

'''MIKE:''' —center for Tech a few years ago. Um...

'''MATT:''' There's, there's a, what, there's...

'''MIKE:''' So then here's playing it. Oh wait.

'''MATT:''' Go.

''{Mike faults. The audience lets out a collective "Awwwww".}''

'''MATT:''' Awwwwww! You kick its {{{swear|ass}}}.

'''MIKE:''' Now watch how long... ''{Faults and the audience laughs}'' {{{swear|Damn}}}! I want to at least get to...yeah, this next hash mark...

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' Gooooo!

''{Mike reaches the hash mark.}''

'''MIKE:''' And that's point one ''{Faults and laughs}'' oh one, so that's a hundredth of one kilometer, so that's, like, 1/5000 of the game or something.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' We eventually made it to where, if you get to, if you get to, if you actually do a whole kilometer, then, uh, like, the screen starts to black out, and he walks into blackness.

'''MIKE:''' Oh yeah.

'''MATT:''' It's like, oh, we didn't program this far. ''{Audience laughs.}'' We added that one when somebody, like, e-mailed us a few days later and was like, "Hey, I got up to three kilometers," and we're like, "Wait! Really?"—

'''MIKE:''' ''{Laughs}''

'''MATT:''' —"People are doing that?" ''{Mike gets to 0.02km, then faults.}'' So we figured we should add something.

'''MIKE:''' Anyway—

'''MATT:''' And that's, uh—

'''MIKE:''' So you gotta, you gotta factor in a few faults, too, cause it sits, sits you there for like five seconds after you make a foot fault.

'''MATT:''' Um...What else? What was the, oh yeah, there was some e-mail where, where someone announces Strong Bad as "The Ramblin' Wreck of E-mail Check".

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Which is, that's the only other, we tried to figure out if there were any Georgia Tech references on the website.

'''MIKE:''' Which is pretty good because there's no, like, Georgia references or Florida State. I mean, it's not like we've got references to everything.

'''MATT:''' There's one that's, you know, where somebody, they're from Tallahassee, and he pronounces it "Gainesville".

''{Mike and the audience laugh.}''

'''MATT:''' ...just to {{{swear|piss}}} off... Um, so let's take questions.

'''MIKE:''' Questions.

'''MATT:''' We, we're out of things to show.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, we're done.

===Part II: Q & A===
'''Q: Where did y'all come up with the idea for Trogdor?'''

'''MIKE:''' Trogdor. Um...

'''MATT:''' It's based on, uh, Ed Emberley drawing books, um, which is the, these things when we were kids, a series of drawing books where it's like "draw", you know, to draw an alligator, you draw a, a um, uh, triangle and you draw a rectangle and a bunch of triangles on the back for the scales and two lines, you know, and broke it all down. And so originally the email was gonna be mostly about like how to draw crappy drawings, and um, and so it was Strong Bad's version of that doing this, this dragon. And, um, we had somewhere, we tried to find it, actually, to bring it up here, um, just the sheet of Mike and I trying to draw worse dragons than the others, so it's just a sheet of terribly drawn dragons.

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' You can see—

'''MATT:''' —And we just decided on that one.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah you can see like the sort of the evolution of, you know, like, "Oh, well we like the beefy arm sticking out of the back and we", you know, so it's sort of like 20 or 30 different variations, some of which are pretty hilarious. Some of them are just flat out alligators, like, crocodiles.

'''MATT:''' And then the, the, it's funny, though, because the song at the end of it was a complete afterthought, sort of. Like, we had, were making the e-mail, and essentially it was an e-mail about bad drawings. It was more like this illustration e-mail, and then Mike was, um—

'''MIKE:''' —We're—

'''MATT:''' —finishing up the e-mail? We had worked all night, so it was, like, breakfast, and I was in the kitchen making eggs, I think, and, uh, and started, and just started, started singing that song, like, as a joke, just singing this Trogdor song, and Mike was like, "Well, now we have to make that."

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' And so then we made the, the end. Um, you know...

'''MIKE:''' Here's, um, something else I forgot to show. The, um, There's a fake, um, heavy metal band that's Strong Bad's favorite band called Limozeen.

''{Someone in the audience shouts "whoo"}''

'''MIKE:''' And so, um, in making, we made a real album and had to make some fake album covers, and one ''{laughs}'' one of the things I made was that I wanted to make, uh, Limozeen, like, doing, like, gang symbols out of fingers, and so I tried to do it. And originally the idea was going to be, like, a hot woman—

'''MATT:''' —with like red—

'''MIKE:''' —with like red fingernails—

'''MATT:''' —Yeah.—

'''MIKE:''' —and, like, make spelling Limozeen with her fingers somehow, so I did a test to see how it would look, and...

'''MATT:''' It's the most obscene....

''{Laughter washes out their speech. The camera pans to the screen to show an image of the word "LIMOZEEN" spelled out with cut-outs of photos of a person's fingers.}''

'''MATT:''' It's so gross.

'''MIKE:''' And, like, the "e"s are all fat and stubby!

''{More laughter.}''

'''MIKE:''' It just looks—

'''MATT:''' —for the Saw movies.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. I thought we might get arrested if we publish that.

'''MATT:''' That is pornographic. I don't know why.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' ...Obscene...Uh any other, anybody else have a question? No?....

'''Q: Who does the voices?

'''MATT:''' ''{raises his hand}'' I do.

'''Q: ''Guitar Hero II'', you've got this song in there. So, um, how did that come about?'''

'''MATT:''' Um, the guy from Harmonix, Alex Rigopulos, uh, just e-mailed. He's a big fan, and, uh, e-mailed us and was like, "Hey, would you guys be willing to put a, you know, a track in as a bonus track?" He asked about, uh, one of, the song, Trogdor song, uh, ''Guitar Hero II'' for the Playstation 2 as, uh, as an unlockable track. And uh, so yeah, they were just fans and contacted us, which was pretty awesome. And uh, what else happened with that? Um, oh, it's funny, cause he, I was like, you know, you know, wanted to, like, repay the favor, and I was like, "Well, is there anything? You know, I'll send you whatever," and he was like, "Oh, I've already got everything," and I was like, "Oh, I'll send you some T-shirts and some DVDs," and he was like, "I've already gotten it all".

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' "Really? All of the T-shirts?" and he was like, "Well, kind of, pretty much." So that was pretty cool to find out that. Most of the stuff, we've, we've rarely sought out any of the cool collaborations that we've been able to do over the years and have just lucked out that people were psyched and, and contacted us which was so...It's a nice, lazy, totally like, um, what do you call it, uh, non-confrontational way to do it. Sit there and wait for cool people to come to you. ''{Mike laughs.}'' That's the moral...Uh, anybody else? ''{Points.}'' Yes.

'''Q: Uh, I know a lot of Flash and webcomic sites now, it's becoming common for creators to have a news or a blog page where they just talk about pending projects, things going on in their personal lives, they answer questions from the fans, things like that. They have a comments section. Have you guys ever thought about adding a page like that to your site?

'''MATT:''' ''{Turning to Mike}'' We were just...

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, we, just, just talked about that in the last week or two.

'''MATT:''' But what we wanted to make it was the Excuses Blog, and we would only update it when we don't update the website.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' Because we always, always have a really good reason. We never just, like, blow it off. It's always, like, we're working on, like, we're working on some other project, or, like, there's something going on in our lives like—

'''MIKE:''' —having a baby or something. ''{Laughs.}''

'''MATT:''' ''{Smiling and pointing to Mike.}'' Yeah, and so, uh, we were just like, "We need to start the Excuses Blog section," and just, like, every time we don't update it, it's like, "Hey, look, you know, maybe it's, show a little bit of what we're, the other thing we're working on, or something," or like, "We need to take this week off to work on the DVD." Uh, like, like the week when we made that "Accent" e-mail, it just sucks, like, we made this awesome e-mail, and then the next Monday we had to make another cartoon for it, and it was like, "No, we just made a cartoon.—"

'''MIKE:''' —So, yeah, we—

'''MATT:''' "—Now we have to make two." Uh, so we, we're thinking about it. Uh, because it's the sort of thing where we felt like it would sort of appease people if they knew that, like, you know, so the, maybe hate mail wouldn't come in—

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' —when we don't update, and, uh, and people wouldn't be {{{swear|pissed}}} off, like, "Oh, I'm not going back to Homestar anymore, man, they don't update anymore," or something like that which, uh...So, maybe. The Excuses Blog. Look, look for it in '07.

'''MIKE:''' ''{leaning over and pointing to his right}'' Question behind someone. I can't see...yep?

'''Q: Um, I know you guys have worked with They Might Be Giants several times in the past. Are you all going to keep collaborating?'''

'''MIKE:''' Yep.

'''MATT:''' ''{Turns to Mike}'' We're trying to, you don't have any, can we show a small clip of that? We can turn the audio down. Maybe they wouldn't care about that.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' We don't know. It's so cool working with them. It's, it's another thing that they just came to us, which was amazing. Like, in the same day we got a package from, uh, from, um, Jim Mallon, who is one of the producers of Mystery Science Theater. He operated Gypsy—I don't know of anybody knows—uh, and he sent us a Tom Servo, so in the same day, we got a Tom Servo puppet and then got an e-mail from John Linnell from They Might Be Giants, and we were just, like, uh, could have died the next day and been happy. Uh...

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' So, um, but they're so cool! They're really laid back and, like, just never, we've never had any contacts or agreements in any of the stuff we've done, I mean, like, we made a video for them. It was on MTV. It's on DVDs. Their stuff, you know, their song is on our DVD, and, like, they've never made us sign any of those things, so it's funny, cause we're working on this thing for them now, and I, I have no idea, we haven't, we haven't talked about whether we're getting paid for it. We haven't, uh, there's been no discussion of contract, or we didn't have to sign a non-disclosure agreement or anything, so it's funny. I was like, I'd like to show, just sort of show...

'''MIKE:''' It's just—

'''MATT:''' ''{Simultaneously}'' You can let it play for a little bit.

'''MIKE:''' It's uh, a k—

'''MATT:''' —the song, the song might be, maybe they wouldn't want people to hear the song.

''{The camera pans upward to reveal the music video being played. The first scene shows and overhead shot of cars racing down a figure-eight track. Cut to a boy in a red cap and blue coat and pants ice skating in a figure eight and moving toward the camera.}''

'''MIKE:''' It's a kid's, they've got some kid's DVDs. There's one called "Here Come the ABCs" and this is called, "Here comes the 123s," and so...

''{Someone in the audience lets out an "Awww." The scene cuts to an overhead shot of the skating boy.}''

'''MIKE:''' ...it's a video for that.

''{The camera cuts to a wide overhead shot to show several small figures skating on a frozen pond, some of which are etching a figure eight into the ice.}''

'''MATT:''' The number eight.

'''MIKE:''' And so, it's just lots of race car driving and kids ice skating...

''{Cut to an overhead shot of race cars racing around a figure-eight racetrack in the middle of a desert as a bird flies overhead.}''

'''MIKE:''' ...things like that.

''{Cut to a driver-side view of one of the race cars. As the car races along the track, a turn left sign springs up in his windshield. The screen then goes blank as Mike closes the music video.}''

'''MIKE:''' This was actually something we animated at 18 frames—

'''MATT:''' —oh yeah—

'''MIKE:''' —um, kind of just to, cause we knew—

'''MATT:''' —the robot, show 'em the robot.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, the robot. Matt's proud of his robot.

''{Matt laughs}''

'''MIKE:''' Don't nobody talk about these robots on your blog now.

''{Mike starts rapidly fast-forwarding through scenes in the music video.}''

'''MATT:''' But so hopefully, I mean, yes, we're actively doing this for them right now, and hopefully, I mean, it's been cool cause they've treated us like, not just like some kids that at one time did something with these guys, like, they, like, treat us like we're, like, they want to collaborate with us, which has been, like, hugely boundmoving and awesome, so hopefully, you know, we'll continue to work with them.

'''MIKE:''' Hey Matt, here are your robots.

''{The scene has frozen on an image of a spaceship following the path of a sideways rainbow figure eight in space.}''

'''MATT:''' Oh, awesome. Thanks, Mike. I wanted them to see them.

''{The scene shows four robots standing in a row on a glowing purple grid against a dark blue sky. One by one, the robots fold up into a shape, the first and third into a circle that's two-thirds complete and the second and fourth into small rectangles. The four then merge together to form the number 8, which then sprouts a robot head, two arms, and two legs. The robot then flies upward with its left fist raised. Laughter.}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah. They're kind of Tron transformer robots. Um, uh any other questions?...Yes.

'''Q: It's probably to be expected, but I know a lot of us probably want to hear some of the voices.'''

''{Laughter as Matt grins humbly}''

'''MATT:''' Um, sure, does somebody have a question for a character? That's always easy, easier to do than to just start talking like them. Do you have a question for a character?...''{as several audience members start talking at once}'' Yeah, put your money where your mouth is. What?

'''Q: ''{Several members of the audience speak up at once}'' How do you type with boxing gloves on?

'''MATT:''' That's a, that's the last question you should ask.

''{Laughter}''

'''Q: ''{The same student who asked Matt to do voices}'' How does the Cheat do voices for his own cartoons?'''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's what I'd like to know, because from what I can tell, the guy's got two throats.

''{Laughter}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' There's this one throat, it's, like, monkeys, you know, that can't talk, like, no matter what. Their vocal cords can't support human speech, you know, and I would, from what I, I've, you know, and I've had to pull stuff out of this throat several times, and he chokes on things and stuff, and it doesn't look like he could talk. And then all of a sudden, he starts making cartoons and he do-, he goes into this secret room when he does the voices, so I never see how he does it. And he comes out, and he sounds just like this:

''{Matt looks at Mike.}''

'''PBTC HOMESTAR:''' Hi, Strong Bad. I can do it all the time.

''{Laughter}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's amazing. I don't know how he does it.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' ''{Points}'' Yeah.

'''Q: I have a question for Homestar.'''

'''MATT:''' Oh. ''{Laughs with audience}'' Does anybody have any more questions for human people?

'''MIKE:''' ''{raises his hand}'' 'Cause I'll leave if not.

'''Q: ''{Same audience member}'' Did, did he, did he ever get a new cow lamp?'''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Um, I've been to every thrift store and vintage store and antique store in the country, ''{voice raises as if on the verge of tears}'' and I've not found another cow lamp. ''{voice returns to normal}'' So if anyone wants to make me a custom cow lamp, uh, that would be great. Uh, just so you know, it's made of out, like, dried, I don't know if it's animal skin or something, and it has the leather, like, binding around the top. It was three of those with, like, caveman drawings of, of cows. It was my favorite lamp.

'''MATT:''' ''{Pointing}'' Did, did you have a, a human question?

'''Q: Yeah. Speaking of voices, what do you do for recording voices?'''

'''MATT:''' Uh, we, uh, have a little, uh, like, a, a sound room, a fairly, it's not soundproof by any means, but it's better than, better than sitting in front of the computer in our old crappy apartment, which is what we used to do. Um, and so we've run into, we just have a decent, you know, um, mike. We've got, um, it's, whatever, a low impedance one that, like, you know, after like three feet, it just stops recording sound. Uh, and, uh, and we go, we go to USB Preamp, uh, that M-Audio makes, um, which is great. It's got XLR and quarter-inch inputs, and that just goes USB into the computer, and we use, uh, ''{laughs}'' I, again, we use, like, a five-year-old copy of Cool Edit Pro to do, uh, all the stuff. Now it's all Adobe Audition, and we also have new versions of that, but, um, and that's just, that's worked out for us, so...

'''MIKE:''' Um...

'''MATT:''' Nothing fancy.

'''MIKE:''' It's good that it doesn't record sound after about three feet, because then old recordings, when we had an apartment together, you could hear me, like, doing the dishes. There's one sound—

'''MATT:''' —Find the, find the, uh, find the worms. Squishiness.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, the worms... ''{starts looking for the file}''

'''MATT:''' Uh, do you have the main page or something? ''{turns to audience}'' There's a wor-, there's a sound of this, like ''{makes squishing noises}'' of, like, squishing, uh, that we've used forever, and you can hear, I think, ''{points to Mike}'' you recorded that sound, actually.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' And you can hear me whistling in the background. And we still use it, it's great. I've tried to sort of get the whistle out of it, but I kind of like that.

'''MIKE:''' Which one is that?

'''MATT:''' ...whistle. Uh, what's the, the...

''{Audience member suggests the Halloween Main Page.}''

'''MATT:''' Is there anyone from the Wiki here? ''{Turns toward screen, where Mike has the [[Main Pages|Wiki page "Main Pages"]] up}'' Yeah, see, main, main pages. Which is the Halloween one?

'''MIKE:''' Graveyard. Seven.

'''MATT:''' Seven! Okay, there you go.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' See, that's what we do, like, as, as we're making cartoons, we'll do that about a hundred times. There is worm, so crank it, crank it.

''{The camera pans up to the screen as Mike turns up the volume.}''

'''MATT:''' Look at, listen at the end, you'll hear, you'll hear, uh, me whistling.

''{Mike plays the squishy sound heard when the mouse passes over "Toons" or "Games" on [http://www.homestarrunner.com/main7.html Homestar Runner Main Page 7]. At the end of the sound clip is a faint whistle. The audience laughs. Mike plays the sound again. More laughter.}''

'''MATT:''' So that's, uh...

''{Mike closes the main page window, revealing another window with Strong Bad and The Cheat standing in Homestar's house. Homestar's broken cow lamp is on the floor, and Strong Bad's face is sticking out from the side of his head.}''

'''MIKE:''' There's one working now—

'''MATT:''' —sound has improved.

'''MIKE:''' There's one where you can clearly hear a truck driving by because the window was open. We had this apartment that no air conditioning, I mean, it was just awful in the summertime, so you just had the window open, and you could hear dogs barking and trucks driving by and stuff.

'''MATT:''' ''{Gets out of his chair and points at the screen}'' Look, there's a goof. The—

'''MIKE:''' —What?—

'''MATT:''' —shadow of Homestar's little table is going over the cow lamp.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, yeah.

''{Matt returns to his chair as Mike moves the image of the cow lamp slightly to the right.}''

'''MIKE:''' ''{playfully}'' Not anymore...

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' ...re-upload that. Uh, any other questions?

'''Q: Is there any, um, Easter eggs that we don't know about yet?'''

'''MATT:''' Probably not. I don't think, I think it, with, I know with the advent of the Wiki, there's nothing, we can't hide anything. It's, it's funny, because people started watching it, um, like they watch it full screen, and so you can see all this other crap that we kind of don't want you to see on the side that's just, like, you know, the edges of graphics and things, and so like. when Homestar walks in, and he just disappears, you know, when he, like, leaves the frame or whatever, and so if you watch it, and it's nice to watch it full screen, I understand, but they, you get all this extra crap that kinda makes the cartoon ugly, and so that's why for a while, we made that border huge, like, the symbol was gigantic so that, like, when you, even if you watched it all the way, like, it's still black on the edges if you watch it full screen. Um, but so, uh, because people are, they just start poking around, they, like, you know, decompile our Flash files and look at stuff, and so we've started adding a few things here and there for the, the, the nerds that do that stuff—

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' —And so there's one where these two Homestars appear, uh, like, it appears that there's two Homestars, like, you can barely see the edge of his feet on that side of the frame, like, that's in the actual cartoon, but then, so then to make it consistent with, uh, in the universe, one of them has a mustache, but you only see it if you, like, decompile the Flash thing and be like, "Oh, that's Homestar with a mustache." Um, and then, what else? There's something where recently Strong Bad almost showed you his, uh, a picture. People always ask about the character's parents, and we just, that's something that we don't want to touch, We're just like, "Who cares what their parents look like?"

'''MIKE:''' ''{Turns to Matt}'' Is it, is it this one? Which one is it?

'''MATT:''' It's, no, it's the chair. He gets the new chair.

'''MIKE:''' Oh. Chair.

'''MATT:''' And so he, uh, we decided we, we would, he acts like he's showing you his parents, but something's in the way, so you can't see this photograph, and so, uh if you decompile it, though, and look at that symbol, it says, it's like "Nice try" or something like that on it, uh, knowing that people were going to do it. We've had to, the Easter eggs have had to go into this, like, technical Flash level just to hide stuff. ''{points to an audience member}'' Yeah?

'''Q: Is that why you guys did the, uh, the widescreen for the special e-mail, I think it was, maybe it was the hundredth one?'''

'''MATT:''' Oh, the virus one.

'''MIKE:''' No, no, it was—

'''MATT:''' Yeah, it was—

'''MIKE:''' —hundred, hundredth—

'''Q: ''{Same audience member}'' Where, where he goes, "Whoa, where have you been?" and he said, "I al-, I'm always here."

'''MATT:''' Right.

'''Q: ''{Same audience member}'' "I think I've lived here."

'''MATT:''' ''{Laughs}'' Yeah, exactly.

'''MIKE:''' I don't have that e-mail.

'''MATT:''' You don't have one hundred on here?

'''MIKE:''' No, one sixty-two. I was looking for the, uh, "Nice Try Dodongo."

'''MATT:''' Oh, oh.

''{Audience member says "It's on the Wiki."}''

'''MATT:''' It is?

''{Same audience member says "Yeah." Mike laughs.}''

'''MATT:''' If we don't have it here, look on the Wiki.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' Anybody else. ''{Points}'' Yeah?

'''Q: Will there be more Peasant's Quest games?'''

'''MATT:''' We were just, we went on a big long walk yesterday and were talking about the future of Peasant's Quest. So, it's a long, I mean, it takes a long time to do that one. It took us, like, six months to make or something but yeah, {{{swear|hell}}} yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Peasant's quest is a, um, King's Quest-like graphic text adventure, and most of our video games and most of the games we make on the side are intentionally, like, 1985- to 1989-era graphics.

'''MATT:''' We try to make them fun, unlike the one we, we showed you.

'''MIKE:''' ''{Laughing}'' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' They look like old graphics. We're trying to actually make—

'''MIKE:''' They're more fun than that one, but anyway, uh, yeah, so, I was just lamenting the fact, I think it's been almost three years since the first one came out, and we, you know, just not gotten around. It, it was like a six month pro-, you know, uh, process to make the whole thing, so... We'll make another one.

'''MATT:''' When we have time.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' ''{Turns around and points behind him}'' Yeah, somebody else over here?

'''Q: Where's Stinkoman level 10?'''

''{Mike laughs}''

'''MATT:''' That's also coming. Now, it will probably will come before Peasant's Quest, actually. That's totally in the works, and, and, uh, what we're going to do is add, uh, maybe add difficulty levels and midpoints to each of the levels too, because people were always complaining that it was too annoying and hard, so we're going to add midpoints to the level and maybe difficulty levels so maybe people will actually play it. Uh...

'''MIKE:''' Here's a Stinkoman theme song that we've never used. ''{Plays an audio file as the camera pans upward to the screen.}''

'''DA VINCI's NOTEBOOK:''' ''{singing}'' 
Stinkoman ''{A silhouette of Stinkoman posing is superimposed behind the "Stinkoman 20X6" title.}'' 
Stinkoman ''{The scene pans left to a silhouette of Stinkoman running. The same title starts out small in front of the silhouette and grows increasingly larger.}'' 
Fight fight fight fight fight ''{With each "fight," the scene switches to Stinkoman in a different running or fighting pose. The scene cuts to a blank white screen at the end.}'' 
Challenge challenge challenge challenge challenge

'''MIKE:''' I didn't do any more animation.

'''DA VINCI'S NOTEBOOK:''' ''{singing}'' 
...20X6 ''{Brief cut to Stinkoman in a fighting pose pulling out his knife, then back to the blank screen.}'' 
All over the universe, the victims he has ''{inaudible}'' 
Number one. Double deuce.

'''MIKE:''' ''{Stops the audio file}'' Anyway, some people—

'''MATT:''' The guys from Da Vinci's Notebook who is this, uh, um, these aca-, humorous a cappella band that I, that's kind of broken up now?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Uh, did that a long time ago. They're the same guys who did this, uh, cartoon called the "Ballad of the Sneak" on the website. ''{Points}'' Uh, yes?

'''Q: How do you all do the writing? Is it just, you look at the e-mails, and if one strikes you as really funny, you go with it? Or do you have to think in advance?'''

'''MATT:''' Um, both, both ways. We'll do, we'll, we'll look through the e-mails. Um, we have a good ones folder that when we find one we think is good, we'll just separate it and just be, like, we don't not, not necessarily that right then it starts to write itself, but just like, "Oh, that has potential," um, and so we'll always go back and look at the good ones folder. Or, uh, sometimes there's time where it's like, we want to do an e-mail about this, uh, so let's search. Fortunately, we, he gets enough e-mails that you can usually just go—

'''MIKE:''' —we reverse engineer it.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, do a search for that word and see that, you know, they'll be five or six e-mails of that, pick the one that's the best. Uh, like that, that "Accent" one, cause like I said, that was one that we wrote a long time ago cause we get that question all the time, so it's like, "Oh, that will be an easy one to find," so just looked up "Accent" in, uh, you know, whatever, in Thunderbird, and it brought up, like, there were, like, that one has like 30 results for things, so just pick the one that we like the best and, uh, so yeah. And then as far as just straight-up writing for, like, cartoons and even for e-mails we usually, uh, we're pretty tapped out by Monday or Tuesday, whenever we put up the cartoon, so we, you know, take it easy one of those days, and then, uh, starting on Wednesday, we just, like, go for long walks and try and eat at, eat at weird places to make us think of funny stuff or just try, you know, just trying to get inspiration from whatever, just trying. Where we work is, is pretty, you know, we work in a kind of a depressing strip mall which is always good.

'''MIKE:''' Kind of depressing?

'''MATT:''' No, in a good way.

'''MIKE:''' No, the other places of business are, uh, Piccadilly Cafeteria, a hearing-aid store—

'''MATT:''' —yeah—

'''MIKE:''' —a medical supply store—

'''MATT:''' —like canes and walkers—

'''MIKE:''' —yeah, a, yeah, an adult diaper store—

'''MATT:''' —adult diaper ware-, like, wholesaler—

'''MIKE:''' —yeah, yeah, scooters, and then there's, like, a Family Dollar and Big Lots, I mean, everything is, like, for old people or, you know...

'''MATT:''' That's right.

'''MIKE:''' ...yeah, so it's pretty good. So we're in the basement there and nobody knows what we do. We just walk in there and lock the door and people, like, always try to open the door. There's been a couple of times when we don't lock the door, and people just poke their head in and, like, thinking we're, I don't know what they think we are, but they are just like come in and, it's like, "Hey, leave, please." ''{Laughs}''

'''MATT:''' Um, any-, anybody else? ''{points behind him}'' Yes?

'''Q: How much time do you actually spend checking e-mails?'''

'''MATT:''' Uh, there will be, I mean, the days when we're looking for one if we're, like, don't have an idea to, to, to go for, I mean, they'll, we'll both sit there for an hour or more just, like, reading e-mails. I mean, they, unfortunately, they, they break down into, like, you know, five categories that are all the same, so it's, like, having to find the ones that aren't that, and especially at, like, you know, now that we're at 170, it's like even, if it's like, yeah, it's a different question, but it's kind of treading the same territory. We're trying to, you know, we gotta try and keep it fresh for us, too, in addition to trying to keep it for the viewer. I mean, people will just want him to draw Trogdor again. I mean, that's, like, 50% of the e-mails he gets.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' "Draw another dragon" or "draw Trogdor again" or "draw a girlfriend for Trogdor."

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, a girlfriend for Trogdor.

'''MATT:''' So...uh, ''{points in front of him}'' Yes?

''{Audience member behind him says "Things for what not to e-mail about."}''

'''MATT:''' ''{Looks behind him}'' What?

''{Same audience member says "These are hints for what not to e-mail about." Matt laughs.}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah, exactly.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, did we ever do that?

'''MATT:''' ''{Simultaneously}'' We've been talking about making an e-mail that's him doing that. Like here's the—

'''MIKE:''' —asking about his parents—

''{Audience member says in a mock-Strong Bad voice, "Never e-mail me these things"]

'''MATT:''' There you go. Yeah, get him to do the voices.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' ''{Points in front of him}'' Yeah?

'''Q: Uh, I was just curious what kind of staff you guys have ''{inaudible - audience member continues to ask about the size and composition of the Homestar Runner staff}'' '''

''{Matt leans back in his chair and puts one arm behind Mike and the other behind Ryan. Mike points both fingers between Ryan, Matt and himself.}''

'''MATT:''' Uh, our sister does all of the business. She runs the online store, um, and that's, that's it. Four of us, basically...So not much on our staff.

'''MIKE:''' ''{points to his right}'' Yep.

'''Q: Uh, what's Homsar up to these days?'''

'''MATT:''' Homsar? ''{Mike laughs}'' Uh, you know, lurking in the shadows, floating around probably, somehow defying the laws of physics.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' Those are some of his hobbies. Uh, he's doing pretty good.

'''HOMSAR:''' Don't touch my severance package.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' That's a little more obscene than I wanted.

''{Laughter. Matt points in front of him.}''

'''Q: Um, one of the things I admire about the site is that, I know you do voices for 95% of the characters, and each one is distinctive, different. Did you study voice acting in college?'''

''{Mike laughs}''

'''MATT:''' Uh, no, it was, uh, Mike always says it was just cause I was the youngest and wanted attention the most when I was a kid, so I had to invent some way to make people pay attention to me. Uh...

'''MIKE:''' We also just watched, I, I mean, watched, like, Bugs Bunny cartoons, and he's got a very good memory, so he was, he was just always, you know, talking, quoting Simpsons or old Bugs Bunny cartoons and doing the voices, and...

'''MATT:''' In Mr. Turnipseed's algebra class, they would have, I did-, I didn't even realize my voice was changing—

'''MIKE:''' —You had a teacher named Mr. Turnipseed?!

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Really?!

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' Uh, I could do, when my voice was changing, it was only then, it was this short window of opportunity, I could do a really good Marge, and Mr. Turnipseed would, like, have me do it for the class, ''{Mike laughs}'' and I was just, it was just, I think, I would just say, like, "Oh Bart" or something like that, and, and my voice was, like, pubescent enough that I could squelch it out. Uh, but, so, no, I never got any formal training or anything like that. Um, uh, but, uh, I don't know, we start-, when we first started making the cartoon, Mike was just like, "Well, I'm not doing these voices, so you make something up." ''{Mike laughs}'' And, like, "All right, well, what about Coach Z?" and he was like, "I'm not doing that either."

'''MIKE:''' Well, Coach Z was a char-, he used to do this really depressing Midwestern guy or something. We'd just be hanging out or something, and Matt would just turn into this really depressing guy and like, ''{voice switches to an imitation of Coach Z}'' "Oh geez, I don't, things aren't going so good."

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' And so he's actually, I mean, Coach Z's become pretty depressing. Um, he'll just, like, get drunk instantaneously sometimes, and things like that, and this guy was even more depressing than Coach Z is, ''{Matt laughs}'' but...

'''MATT:''' Um, yeah...Anybody else? Questions? ''{Looks around the room}''

'''MIKE:''' We've got 17 minutes left, guys. C'mon.

'''MATT:''' ''{points behind him}'' Yeah?

'''Q: Where did Teen Girl Squad come from?'''

'''MATT:''' That really, that came from a, an e-mail, I mean, it was an e-mail that somebody sent. Actually, that's one of the, I think that's the only Strong Bad E-mail that was not sent to Strong Bad. It was actually sent to, uh, Mike and I, and they didn't, so it didn't say, "Dear Strong Bad" that was something we changed. It was just like an e-mail, and they were like, and I, you know, what she meant was, "Will you make a cartoon of me and my friends?" is what I'm assuming, and so it's just this girl that was like, "Oh hey, will you make a cartoon of my friends? Here are their names." And so I was like, "Oh, this, I gotta forward this to Strong Bad."

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' Did you actually do that?

'''MATT:''' No. No, I for-, I don't think I did forward it to him. I try to not treat the characters like they're real people, too.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' And, uh, and so the that was just, uh, uh, you know, we just really did it, and, um, and then decided that this could be something that would be fun to keep doing. And actually, that's one of my favorite, like, we, that's another thing that we don't do as often, and it's really, it's much easier, you know, obviously to make, because there's not a lot, there's no animation. There's just drawings. And, uh, but we've tried, so we could crank those out like crazy, but we try to keep it, I don't know, so it, it, it feels like that's something we could have made, gotten, some people already think it's already gotten old, but, like, we try, and I feel like the, the girls have taken on these, these much more, uh, in-depth lives than, than, than we ever thought possible.

''{Laughter. An audience member remarks, "They're probably not teens anymore."}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah. They wouldn't be if we were going by, like...

'''MIKE:''' Well, it's possible.

'''MATT:''' ''{Simultaneously}'' But see, Bart, Bart Simpson's been ten, ten years old for, like, whatever, for 15 years or something. So...

'''MIKE:''' They're 18 now.

'''MATT:''' Was there another...''{Points behind him}'' Yes.

'''Q: Yeah, the, the kind of style of humor that you guys have, has that, has that developed over the years, or has it just always been inane as brothers, like, just kind of, you know, because I have, I have a little brother, and we have a weird style of humor.'''

'''MATT:''' Right.

'''Q: It's just always how it's been, like, in that, ends up reflected in the way that you guys have favorite jokes, in a way, kinda quirky humor that you guys had background, and like...?'''

'''MATT:''' Yeah, I think it's definitely just, that's just the way we were, I mean, we've just been screwing around with each other and, like, in our whole family, like—

'''MIKE:''' —Hey now—

'''MATT:''' —there were all these dumb whole family inside jokes and stuff like that, and so, like, we just started making the cartoons just sort of to amuse ourselves.

'''Q: ''{same audience member}'' And that's, that's what I really found interesting about it was you were able to take that strange dynamic that is like, like, how do you express the weird family humor action so well and make it relate to other people. I thought that was really good.'''

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, we were, I was always encouraged when people would say that exact thing. It's like, you've, you know, I don't know, if there's just being shows and cartoons and being overwritten and written by ten people over a period of months, it sort of loses any sort of that, that, that was once there.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, not to, uh, I don't mean this in a derogatory way, uh, but it's sort of a commentary, no to, to diss on, uh, the Happy Tree Friends, but here was one episode of Happy Tree Friends where the, this, I think, it was the squirrel falls off of a cliff, and his guts just keep coming out, and, like, and, you know, it gets down to where it's, like, his toe or something comes out of his mouth. And it's pretty, you know, it's just like, very Itchy and Scratchy style, I mean, like that whole cartoon is. And, uh, at the end, it, there were 20 writers ''{Mike laughs}'' uh, for this cartoon. There was, it was like a 3-minute long cartoon, and it was mainly just a cat getting his, you know, a squirrel getting his guts ripped out, which is, you know, if that's, if that's your thing, that, that's great, that's funny, you know, whatever, but I was like, "Really? It took 20 people to be like, 'Oh wait, and ''then'' his stomach comes out'?"

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' "Oh, I never thought his stomach would come out. I just had his, I stopped at his lungs. And then we keep going down to his toe." And, like, it took this room full of 20 people writing that.

''{Audience member says something inaudible. Mike laughs.}''

'''MATT:''' Well, there you go. I didn't like, he's, I'm not trying to diss on them. It was just surprising to me that it was like, uh, yeah, like Mike said, I feel like a lot of stuff gets overwritten, and maybe more...

'''MIKE:''' The other thing is, we do all our stuff, pretty much, we try to put out a new cartoon on Monday. Back in the day, it used to be written and produced all day Sunday, but these days, it's a little more, usually, we're writing Thursday, and Friday and Saturday we're sort of recording and getting stuff done, and then Sunday is a mara-, marathon session of animating. Um, so everything's written and produced, like, within 2 or 3 days of you seeing it, so it's sort of an immediacy to it that wouldn't be there. That's why we've always not been interested in doing TV where you've got to write episodes six months in advance, and it's just, would lose some of, kinda some of the, uh, I don't know, spontaneity of the writing. You'd, you'd overthink something and not put in there. Whereas now, we're just like, four in the morning, and like, yeah let's just do that and, you know, it's, it's a double-edge sword. Sometimes that's probably yields terrible results but sometimes its good.

'''MATT:''' ''{looking around the room}'' Is there anybody that hasn't asked a question. ''{points to an audience member with his hand raised who's asked a question before}'' Not to...Yes. ''{points behind him}'' Yes.

'''Q: Yeah, um ''{inaudible}'' my question was since you don't have any financial sponsors or go into advertising, what kind of pressures do you put on yourself ''{inaudible}''?'''

'''MIKE:''' Well, it's mostly the pressure, we, you know, we try and not to disappoint fans. I mean, I think that for me, anyways, is more incentive to do something, to stay up late, to, um, you know, just give the people that have supported us, you know, what they're expecting. So it's not, you know, we're not trying, not to let any financial things influence what we do. Um...

'''MATT:''' Yeah, cause remember, we got, we, we didn't get, we got to this point by not caring. We didn't set out to start a business. We were just kind of amusing ourselves and so, it was like, that works to get it to where it is, so it's like, if we started to think about, like, "Oh well, we should bring this character back because it was a big seller," then that would, you know, change it and probably make it worse. So...

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, so it's definitely been a challenge, you know, going from it being a spare time, something we do for fun into our job. There is that sort of balance that you've got to, um, deal with, but we try not to let the, you know, money side affect any of the creative side at all.

'''MATT:''' Our sister lives in Alpharetta and works out of there, so we, we rarely see her. She does all the business stuff., so ''{Laughs}'' Keep her physically far away from us. ''{Mike laughs. Matt points in front of him}'' Yeah, and you had another question.

'''Q: Who made the puppets?'''

'''MATT:''' Uh, our friend, uh, [[Lucky Yates]]. Uh, he, uh, is a local, he used to work at the Center for Puppetry Arts, and now he, like, works, he's an improviser in Dad's Garage, and him and this guy Chris Brown—who are both just local puppeteer guys—um, made all our puppets.

'''MIKE:''' Again, we were friends with them before, you know, we just had friends that were good puppeteers, so like, "Hey, make us some puppets", and if it wasn't for that, we would have never gotten puppets made.

'''MATT:''' Yeah....''{Points in front of him}'' Yes?

'''Q: Um, I know you guys—'''

'''MATT:''' ''{Pointing to the current audience member speaking to stop another member who was about to speak}'' —No, um—

'''Q: —show up at, like, conventions sometimes, like, how's your relation—'''

'''MATT:''' —One time. ''{Mike laughs}''

'''Q: ...um, how's your relationship with, like, other, um, like, artists in, like, the online comic community, and...'''

'''MATT:''' Um, there's a, we don't talk to a lot of them. We have to be kind of heads down in trying to do something every week, you know, uh, for us anyways. And, um, but—

'''MIKE:''' —we talked to the Red vs. Blue people.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, we met the guys from Red vs. Blue. They were all nice, um, dudes. We met them, actually, we did met them at a, at like, where was that? At South by Southwest.

'''MIKE:''' ''{Simultaneously}'' At South by Southwest, yeah.

'''MATT:''' And, um, the guy that does Dinosaur comics. Anybody know Dinosaur comics?

''{A couple of audience members in the back shout "Yeah."}''

'''MATT:''' Um...

'''MIKE:''' it's really good.

'''MATT:''' That's, uh, qwantz.com, I think is the website. Um, we, Mike just bought me some stuff for, uh, Christmas from there and the guy was like, saw his e-mail address and was like, "Hey, Homestar Runner. That's awesome." And so we became, became just sort of e-mail friends with that guys. So we, um, but, uh, yeah, I don't really, it's the sort of thing where we're not trying to be, like, antisocial, but we don't, uh, if we, if we sought, like, support from the rest of the, like, you know, web comic, web cartoon community, we could hopefully find it, but I don't, we, we just haven't, like, we're just three dudes.

'''MIKE:''' We're trying to put all of, uh, all of them out of business anyways, so, it's best if we don't—

'''MATT:''' That's not—

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' —know who they are.

'''MATT:''' ''{Points in front of him}'' Um, there was a question over there?

'''Q: ''{inaudible}'' '''

'''MATT:''' ''{Cups his ears to hear better}'' Do we have new what?

'''Q: ...T-shirts here?'''

'''MATT:''' With us? Not, well, I can take... ''{pretends to take his T-shirt off}''

''{Laughter. A woman in the back yells "whoo".}''

'''MATT:''' Uh, no, we didn't bring any, any merch. I'm sorry. Uh, ''{looks at Ryan}'' will you run the merch table next time?

''{Laughter. Ryan says something inaudible.}''

'''MATT:''' ''{Turns around and points behind him}'' Yes?

'''Q: Do you find it hard not to wear your own T-shirts? '''

'''MATT:''' Uh, it's, it's pretty easy. Most of the ones with the characters now, we, we've started making these shirts that aren't, like, a character, it's like, there's one that says, "My baby got stole by a bear holding a shark." There's one that, uh, I saw ''{points to an audience member behind him with a Videlectrix shirt on}'' yeah, the one with the Videlectrix 500—

'''MIKE:''' —Yeah, I noticed.

'''MATT:''' —disk on it. Uh...

''{Laughter.}''

'''MATT:''' ..Like, we're now, we're making shirts more that we would wear. I mean, not that we didn't want to wear the, the characters before, and we used to, uh, back in the day before, like, anybody knew what we were doing, uh, but now, it is, you know, I mean, not that people ever know who we are or recognize us, but it would be weird, to be like, you know, you're wearing your shirt, and someone's like, "Oh hey, are you one of the Homestar Runner guys?" and you're just like, "Yeah..." ''{Bows his head in mock embarrassment}''

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' I saw a, I saw "Stone Cold" Steve Austin in the airport a few years ago, and he had a hat and jacket on, and I saw him from afar and thought, "Oh, he's trying to, you know, blend in," and then, until I noticed he was wearing a Stone Cold shirt and a WWF hat.

''{Laughter}''

'''MIKE:''' It's like, "Oh wait, he's not trying to blend in at all." ''{Laughs}''

'''MATT:''' Anybody else? ''{Points to his right}'' Yes.

'''Q: Okay, this is kind of a, uh, personal request. I don't know how familiar you guys are with, uh, Georgia Tech traditions or anything like that, but, uh, could you get, uh, Strong Bad to say, "What's the good word?" '''

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' Who, what is, what, can you explain briefly what the...?

'''Q: ''{same audience member}'' Um, the tradition is, um, you say, um, "What's the good word?" and then, uh, the response will be "To {{{swear|hell}}} with Georgia." '''

'''MATT:''' Oh, okay.

'''Q: You say, "What's the good word?" We say, "To {{{swear|hell}}} with Georgia" again. You say "What's the good word," "To {{{swear|hell}}} with Georgia." And then you say, "How bout them Dawgs?" and you'll find out what the response to that is.'''

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' Um, should I do it, Mike? Is this...

'''MIKE:''' I'm not comfortable with this, being a UGA alumn.

'''MATT:''' Mike went to UGA. I don't, don't know. Um...

''{An audience member says "Maybe we should submit, George P. Burdell send you guys an e-mail."}''

'''MATT:''' Who?

''{Same audience member says "George P. Burdell." Another audience member says "Yeah, he's our fake student. We have a fake student at Georgia Tech." Matt laughs.}''

'''MIKE:''' Nice.

''{Another audience member says, "A long story." The previous member says, "He's better than anyone else at this school." Matt laughs.}''

'''MATT:''' Um, I don't know. Should I do this?

''{An audience member says, "Yes."}''

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, do it. Sure.

'''MATT:''' And so I say, "What's the good word?"

''{An audience member says, "Yeah."}''

'''MATT:''' Um...

'''STRONG BAD:''' What's the good word?!

''{Audience cries out in unison, "To {{{swear|hell}}} with Georgia!" After a second, someone in the audience says, "Say it again."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What—?

'''MIKE:''' Say ''{inaudible}'' again.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Simultaneously}'' Again?

''{Laughter}'''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What's the good, what is again the good word?!

''{Audience cries out in unison, "To {{{swear|hell}}} with Georgia!" }''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm supposed to say it a third time?!

''{An audience member says, "Yes."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{hesitates}'' WHAT'S THE GOOD WORD?!

''{Audience cries out in unison, "To {{{swear|hell}}} with Georgia!" }''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Then wh-, then what's my next line?!

''{An audience member replies, "How 'bout them Dawgs?"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' How 'bout them Dawgs?!

''{Audience cries out in unison, "{{{swear|Piss}}} on 'em."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That was...

'''MIKE:''' That's it?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Is this suppos-, like, so am I supposed to envision a picture of a yellow jacket taking a leak on a bulldog?

''{Laughter}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's the most disturbing thing ever.

''{Continued laughter}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You should make those, like, they have the Calvin {{{swear|pissing}}} on Hobbes, Calvin peeing on, you know, Dale Earnhardt, Sandra Bernhard. ''{Matt looks at Mike}'' I'm gonna settle that one. Young man's daughter, maybe.

''{Continued laughter}''

''{The audience member who asked the original question says, "Thanks, though. That was awesome." Audience applauds.}''

'''MATT:''' That'll be five hundred dollars.

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' Uh, anything else? I think we're almost out of time here. ''{Points in front of him}'' Yes.

'''Q: I mean, you guys were talking about things ''{inaudible}''. Outside of Homestar Runner cartoons, what do you guys do for fun?'''

'''MATT:''' Uh, what do we do for fun? We are, we live in Decatur and all are homeowners, so we hang out at each other's, so Ryan's got an awesome porch. We grill out. Ryan's a home brewer, so we go to drink Ryan's beer at his house, which is good. ''{Ryan nods}'' We, uh, I got a, I got a Nintendo Wii that I don't play as often as I'd like to.

''{An audience member says, "Yeah."}''

'''MATT:''' Uh, so we, you know, we like video games. We, um...

'''MIKE:''' We play basketball sometimes.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, we play, we can shoot hoops in the morning, sometimes. We, uh, try and do other dumb creative stuff on the side, like Mike just got this awesome—

'''MIKE:''' ''{Points to Ryan}'' —like Ryan's shirt.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Ryan's shirt ''{Ryan pulls out the front of his shirt}'' that says, "Orange is {{{swear|shit}}}." Mike made that. ''{Mike laughs}'' It's a, it's an orange that's smiling. It says, "Orange is {{{swear|shit}}}." Uh, so we're always trying to do other dum-, you know, if we're not doing Homestar. It does sometimes, not necessarily tap you out, but it's a nice thing, like doing that, um, that, uh, They Might Be Giants, like, videos is actually fun sometimes to do something that's not, you know, on the website.

'''RYAN STERRITT:''' ''{Turns to Matt}'' ''{inaudible}'' made, made real quick.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Uh, yeah, we were making, we were trying to, like, daring each other to just make short films and edit them and be, like, the idea was that, like, within two hours you had to make a movie and edit it and have a DVD that you could bring over to somebody's house, and called that "Made Real Quick". Um, I don't know. What else? Where do we hang out? Do we hang out?

'''MIKE:''' Our houses, yeah.

'''MATT:''' ''{Laughs}'' We never leave Decatur.

'''MIKE:''' We're...becoming domesticated.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Mike's got a baby. I've got one on the way. Um, so, uh, so you gotta come over, if you...

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' If you want to hang out with us.

'''MIKE:''' We're a load of fun.

'''MATT:''' At our house...Um...

'''Q: What's the address?'''

''{Laughter}''

'''MATT:''' Uh, anything else?

''{Laughter. Mike points to a student at a terminal behind him who's been working relentlessly on an architecture project since before the Brothers Chaps arrived.}''

'''MIKE:''' This guy's a master of sketch-up over here.

''{Ryan and Matt turn around to look at the student. Student says, "No, I'm not." Laughter.}''

'''MIKE:''' Look at that.

''{Joel says something inaudible and then stands up from behind the Brothers Chaps.}''

'''JOEL LINDERMAN:''' Is there any more questions? Anybody else? Well, uh, I have, I have a poster over here, and you guys are welcome to sign it. I've got Sharpies, so you can show your appreciation for Homestar Runner. Uh, write little notes, but don't write a book, cause, like, there's a lot of people, so might need some room on there. And, um, the, if you just want to give them a hand for coming, taking the time...

''{Audience applauds}''

'''MIKE:''' Thanks, guys.

''{Matt waves and says something inaudible. Fade out.}''

==Photos==
<gallery>
Image:20070426 GA Tech event venue.jpg|The venue
</gallery>

==External Links==
*[http://hdl.handle.net/1853/14302 Download the video of the event] (148 MB)
*[http://smartech.gatech.edu/bitstream/1853/14302/5/Home_Star_Runner.html View the streaming video of the event]
*[http://www.library.gatech.edu/ Georgia Tech Library website]
*[http://www.library.gatech.edu/calendar/functions/popup.php?ev=2454217&readFile=1&readSQL=0&showCat=16|18|21&oc=1 Georgia Tech Library Calendar info for the event]
*[http://smartech.gatech.edu/bitstream/1853/14302/1/homestar.pdf Poster for the event (PDF)]
*[http://theubiquitouslibrarian.typepad.com/the_ubiquitous_librarian/2007/04/homestar_takes_.html The Ubiquitous Librarian post on the event]
*[[Forum:11324|Forum thread re: "Georgia Tech - 26 Apr 2007"]]

<noinclude>[[Category: Interviews and Public Appearances]]</noinclude>

Talk:Main Page 24

0rion — Wed, 25 Jul 2007 06:23:03 GMT

0rion: /* Regular outfit */

== Regular outfit ==

Can we really say that "this is one of only five main pages to have Homestar in his regular outfit, size, and style" if his shirt can change? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 14:53, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
:We can say "this is one of only five main pages to have Homestar in his regular size, and style"?--{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 19:05, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
::That applies to ''most'' main pages, though. Not just five. {{User:Mee/sig}}
:Personally, I don't think the fact is noteworthy regardless. This fact would have been erased ''instantly'' if it had said "one of the few" instead of one of five. I say get rid of it. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 06:23, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

== Blurry shirt ==
:''When you roll over "Store" to put on the glasses, the logos on any of Homestar's shirts are still blurry.''
When I put the glasses on, Homestarrunner's shirt is still blurry. Is anyone else having this "problem" [[User:71.108.174.149|71.108.174.149]]
:See the Goofs section. [[User:24.147.211.129|24.147.211.129]]
::This happens with all of his shirts, the ducky, the star, and the Peacy P.
:::I'm not sure this is a goof - I think this is an intentional joke. It seems a little odd that EVERYTHING else would be sharpened except for the shirt. [[User:Compdude]]
::::Agreed -- I laughed. [[User:86.136.81.173|86.136.81.173]] 19:02, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::This especially makes sense when you consider that TBC blurred out the "Olympic Man" shirt in the last TGS episode, and the blurred out Peacy P shirt here also refers to that same TGS episode. [[User:Compdude|Compdude]]
This was put into STUFF for some reason but it doesn't belong there; it's patently true, so the question is where, not whether, to note it. Seems like it would be fine just to put it in the list of buttons. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:48, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
:The "Fila" shirt gives it away. It must have been intentional. Not a goof.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:52, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:53, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Shouldn't it be a real world reference then? [[User:71.108.174.149|71.108.174.149]]

::::Yup, Fila's mentioned in [[Main Page 24#Real World References|Real World References]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:32, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::What about the whole blurring-logos-to-avoid-copyright-infringement joke
::::::Mentioned in Real World References? As far as I can tell, no such section.[[User:66.172.100.207|66.172.100.207]] 06:07, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::There was at one time. Where'd it go? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:08, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

== nekkid? ==

For the Downloads button, the article currently says "Strong Bad walks through the Field", but doesn't elaborate much. Then under Remarks, it says "Strong Bad is seen with underwear". I looked at the Main Page in question before reading the article, and I'm pretty sure that Strong Bad is naked. It would make sense, since everything's blurry, it forms a sort of pre-emptive censorship that's being exploited to allow SB to wander around in the buff. I personally can't see any color difference between his chest and where his underwear should be. After all, the Remark goes on to mention that "he claims he doesn't wear them", so where's the evidence that he's wearing them now? - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 20:42, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
:Put the glasses on by rolling over "Store". It will then become clear. :) {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 20:44, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
::He's clearly naked flesh-tone when blurred, when the glasses are put on, he's wearing underwear. That's the joke - you see he's naked, but there are underpants when the glasses are on. [[User:208.60.233.132|208.60.233.132]] 22:45, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
:::That would work, except for the fact that being able to use the "glasses" to see the other events unblurred is a Flash artifact, and it's hard to say whether or not it's strictly intentional. -{{User:YK/sig}} 00:32, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
::No, you're crazy. he has the underpants on when its blurred. someone decompile it and prove me right, but i'm still right. -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 23:49, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Proved right: on decompiling, the only Strong Body image has underwear on. There is none without it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:20, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

==Cardgage==

Are the glasses the same shape/size/style as Senor Cardgage's? If so we may be looking through his eyes. -- [[User:208.60.233.132|208.60.233.132]] 22:45, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
:Nevermind, they aren't. Would've been cool though! -- [[User:208.60.233.132|208.60.233.132]] 23:13, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
::They do appear to be similar to [[Mike Chapman|Mike's]], though I would not note that on the article. Too "spec"ulative (pun happily intended!). {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:19, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

== Underwear! ==
Strong Bad said that he does not wear underwear in [[New Boots]]. But he is clearly seen wearing underwear in this main page. I'm gonna put that as an inconsistency. {{User:SantanaHomerunner/sig}}

:It's currently listed in [[Main Page 24#Remarks|Remarks]]. Good memory, though! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:04, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, I did put it on the [[inconsistencies]] article if that is alright.

== The Weeklies ==

The Weeklies do appear blurred to me. {{User:SantanaHomerunner/sig}}

The buttons yes, but if the actual windows are blurred, you have eye problems. Please consult an eye doctor. --[[User:207.155.58.227|207.155.58.227]] 02:32, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

== The buttons w/glasses ==

Aren't the buttons AFTER wearing the glasses run through a "sharpen" filter or something of the like? Since your 'vision' becomes sharper, they used "sharpen" on it? Looks like what happens when you sharpen in photoshop, as an example. -- [[User:208.60.233.160|208.60.233.160]] 03:58, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

== The Wii ==
I`m currently typing on a Wii, and I looked at this mainpage and the page was all messed up! First time I viewed it, the whole page had a grey film over it and nothing worked. Second time, the page showed up CRYSTAL CLEAR. The only problem was that the emblems on Homestar's shirt didn't show up at all. Could this have something to do with being on the Wii? - [[HRFWiki:User:TheDenzel]]

Main Page 24

0rion — Wed, 25 Jul 2007 06:16:21 GMT

0rion: /* Inside References */

{{mainnav|24|23|1}}
[[Image:Main24.PNG|220px|thumb|"Has anybody seen my pants?"]]

Everything is viewed through blurred vision.

'''Cast (In order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}

'''Place:''' [[The Field]]

'''Icon:''' Glasses

'''Page title:''' 20/200!

'''Date:''' July 24, 2007

==Button Effects==
*'''[[TV Time Toons Menu|Toons]]''' — Homestar holds up a vision testing chart.
*'''[[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games]]''' — Pulsating red dots appear onscreen. Homestar says, "Hey, are you okay? How many fingers am I holding up?"
*'''[[Character Videos|Characters]]''' — Homestar's shirt changes — first to a [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Peacey P|Peacey P]] shirt, then to a blue [[Wikipedia:Fila_(company)|Fila]] shirt, then to his [[duckie shirt]], then back to his original star shirt.
*'''[[Downloads]]''' — Strong Bad walks through the Field in his underwear shouting, "My pants! Come here, my pants! Has anybody seen my pants?"
*'''[[Store]]''' — Glasses are placed on the viewer, allowing for better vision. Homestar's shirts are still blurred.
*'''[[Email]]''' — Strong Sad appears, holding up Strong Bad's pants and saying, "Well, lookie what I found!"

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
* The page title, "20/200", is the [[Wikipedia: Visual acuity|visual acuity]] measurement used as the threshold for legal blindness.
* The [[Wikipedia: Eye chart|eye chart]] held up by Homestar is known as a "Tumbling E" chart.

===Trivia===
*This is one of only five main pages to have Homestar in his regular outfit, size, and style.

===Remarks===
*By using the Store button after selecting a button which triggers an animation (or by using the [[main page glitch]]), you can watch the scene unblurred.
*The buttons have a new, [[redesign|shinier]] look.
*Strong Bad is seen with [[underwear]], but in [[New Boots]], he claims he doesn't wear them.
**In [[senior prom]], Strong Bad has underwear, but they were boxers, instead of the briefs shown here.
*The sky's design is the one used in [[the chair]] and [[Drive-Thru]].
*This main page lacks a [[Irregular Loading Screen|loading screen]].
*The weeklies' pop-up windows are not blurred.

===Goofs===
*The Weeklies buttons' text, when rolled over, are not in the correct spot.
*The logos on Homestar's shirt extend outside the shirt.


===Glitches===
*The [[HR:newbutton.swf|newbutton.swf]] file slightly overlaps the frames of the glasses.
*Main Page 24 is the only main page that currently (as of July 24, 2007) does not function correctly on the Nintendo Wii's web browser. The text on the links on the left side of the screen is missing, and the links are not clickable. The links also do not produce the roll-over effects either. The Main Page selection in the bottom left-hand corner is missing entirely. All of the buttons on the top right-hand corner are missing as well. Homestar also lacks the star on his shirt, and the blur effects are not visible (but the page is slightly faded).

===Inside References===
*Homestar refers to his [[Lack of Visible Arms|lack of visible fingers]].
*This is another appearance of Homestar's [[duckie shirt]].
*Strong Bad and Strong Sad both make references to Strong Bad's [[pants]].
*Homestar wears a [[Peacey P]] shirt

==External Links==
*[[HR:main24.html|go to Main Page 24]]
*[[HR:main24.swf|view the Flash file for Main Page 24]]
*[[Forum:11984|forum thread re: Main Page 24]]
{{Main Page}}

[[Category: Main Pages]]

Sbemail 100 Fakeout

0rion — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:28:52 GMT

0rion: /* Remarks */ Rinku.

<table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2><tr><td>'''Toon Category: Uncategorized'''</td><td align=right>
{{watch|sbemail100.html}}
</td></tr></table>
[[Image:sbemail100.png|thumb|"When are you gonna do one already?"]]

Strong Bad confronts the user with his/her snooping around the site. Homestar Runner adds to the hilarity.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Error Page]]

'''Date:''' March 16, 2004

'''Running time:''' 0:30

'''Page Title:''' Not the 100th Email!!!

== Explanation ==

The two weeks following [[different town]] were filled with much angst, as faithful [[Strong Bad Email]] fans woke up on those Monday mornings without a new Email. After being teased by [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5]], [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]], and [[Puppet Time]], many people were getting impatient waiting for [[flashback|the 100th Strong Bad Email]]. Several of these people went so far as to check the expected URL for the Email directly, in hopes that they could see the Email as soon as possible. The only way this could be done was to type "http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail100.html" into their address bar, since this address would follow the format used for the previous ninety-nine Emails. These users kept getting the usual [[404'd]] page, until about 2:20 a.m. (EST) on Tuesday, March 16, 2004, which was when they were greeted by '''Not the 100th Email!!!'''.

== Transcript ==

''{Scene opens to typical Internet Explorer 6 error message. The sound of the wind blowing can be heard.}''

''{Strong Bad walks on to the screen from the left to confront the viewer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, I suppose you think you're ''{sways his hips}'' pretty clever, huh? Thought you would find something you weren't supposed to see yet? Well, it's not—

''{Homestar walks on from the right, interrupting Strong Bad.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, is this where the hundredth email is?

'''STRONG BAD:''' No. Get outta here!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' When are you going to do one already?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, just keep your pants on.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Pants? Hmm...

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, chew on that one for a while... ''{mumbles as he walks off}'' Teach you to poke around in my HTML...

''{A handwritten sticky note, which is supposed to be a system alert message, is slapped onto the screen, that reads:}''

<pre>
This is real.
System report:
Keep your pants on.
For real.
[ ok ]
</pre>

==Fun Facts==
===Trivia===
*This is probably the only secret page on the site that is supposed to be found, but was never purposefully linked to at any time. However, for a short while, the links to Strong Bad E-mails on [[Broken Compy Menu]] were one lower than they should've been, so clicking on [[car]] brought you to Not the 100th Email.

===Remarks===
*Since the file for this animation is named sbemail100.html, the [[flashback|actual hundredth email's]] file name is sbemailahundred.html.

*If you use a Flash player that is able to show the number of frames in a file, you'll find that the total number of frames in this file is exactly ''four hundred four'' ([[Wikipedia:HTTP 404|404]]). (29 frames have been added in after the Flash file stops to bring it to this count.)

===Inside References===
*The fake system report is from [[50 emails]]. Homestar put up a nearly identical one when he caused an [[Strong Bad's Computer Malfunctioning|error]] on the [[Compy 386|Compy]].
*The wind-like [[sound effect]] at the beginning of the toon is from the sbemail [[ghosts]]. In the email, it plays shortly before and during when the little [[Bad Graphics Ghost]] appears on the [[Tandy 400]], and for a short time when it also shows up on the [[Compy 386]] screen. Both the background screen and sound effects were also used in [[The System is Down]].
*This is another reference to [[Homestar Runner's Pants]].

==See Also==
*[[Sbemail 150?!?]]

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail100.html|watch "Not the 100th Email!!!"]]
*[[HR:100th_email.swf|view the Flash file for "Not the 100th Email!!!"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|sbemail100}}

[[Category: Strong Bad Email]][[Category:Not Quite Strong Bad Emails]]

homsar

0rion — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:23:35 GMT

0rion: /* Goofs */ Considering that Homsar is a little gimpy and slanted anyway, I'd attribute this to the early character design and not a mistake.

{{sbenav|2|some kinda robot|butt IQ}}

[[Image:sbemail2.PNG|thumb|"Uhdyeah, what ees it, Strong Baaaaayaad?"]]

{{aboutemail}} {{forcharacter|Homsar}}

A misspelling of "[[Homestar Runner|Homestar]]" leaves Strong Bad attempting to kill Homsar.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homsar}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]]

{{Comp|Tandy 400}}

'''Date:''' 2001

'''Running Time:''' 0:46

'''Page Title:''' Tandy 400!!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc One}}

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing, types "run Strongbad's__email"}'' I'm gonna check my email all of the time, doo doo doo...

<blockquote class="tandy email">Hi Strong Bad, 
If you hate Homsar so much, 
why don't you kill him? 
-Vinnie C.</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says the last line as "From Vinnie C."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You know what, Vinnie? You're right. I'll be right back. ''{gets up}''

''{Cut to Homsar standing in the Field. Strong Bad enters the frame in the foreground.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, Homsar!

'''HOMSAR:''' ''{faces Strong Bad}'' Uhdyeah, what ees it, Strong Baaaaayaad?

''{Strong Bad leaves the frame and the Heavy Lourde falls on Homsar, completely crushing him. Cut back to Tandy 400.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sits down, typing}'' Oh man, Vinnie. That feels so much better. Thanks a lot! ''{stops typing}'' Okay, so until next time, keep sending me your questions, and I will keep making fun of your punctuation and spelling. I mean, answer them.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down, and it says "Click here to e-mail strong bad"}''

== Fun Facts ==
[[Image:Sbemail2 old emails button.PNG|150px|thumb|"old emails" button]]
===Trivia===
*This is the first email in which Strong Bad makes fun of someone's [[Poorly Written Emails|spelling]].
*This is also the first email that shows an area outside of the [[computer room]].
*This is the first email where a character other than Strong Bad appears.
*This marks first appearances of Homsar and the [[Heavy Lourde]].
*The back button at the end of this email used to go to the games menu instead of the Strong Bad Email menu (an "old emails" button used to be present that would link to the old emails). After [[flashback]] was released, [[The Brothers Chaps]] removed the old emails button and fixed the back link.

=== Remarks ===
* Strong Bad's mouth doesn't move when he says "doo doo doo."
* When Homsar turns to face Strong Bad, only his head moves. His body stays put.
* The Flash file for this email is the smallest in terms of file size at just over 100 kilobytes.
* The Heavy Lourde falls from [[Hammerspace|nowhere]].

===Goofs===
*Strong Bad's mask doesn't have laces on the back of it when he goes outside.
*Strong Bad's neck cannot be seen when he pulls away from the Tandy.

===Fast Forward===
*In [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]], Homsar leaves a message thanking [[Marzipan]] for the flowers she sent him while he was in the hospital. It's implied that he was in the hospital because the Heavy Lourde had been dropped on him in this email.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail2.html|watch "homsar"]]
*[[HR:sbemail2.swf|view the Flash file for "homsar"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]]

Talk:Ever and More

0rion — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 02:38:41 GMT

0rion: /* songs */

=="Cold Ones Light" poster==
In the background of when Homestar opens the meeting, there's a poster for "Cold Ones Light." The logo looks remarkably familiar but I can't put my thumb of what brand it's suppose to be parodying. Anyone know? I think it should go in the "Real World References" part, perhaps. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:51, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:Reminds me of the [http://images.google.com/images?q=old%20style%20beer Old Style beer logo], but that's a Wisconsin/Chicago area brew, so I'm not sure that TBC would be familiar with it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:30, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:On the other hand, it is ''very'' close — it has the red and blue diagonal background on a shield, a similar font, and a red ribbon coming from the bottom. I think this is too similar to be a coincidence, so I'm gonna add it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:35, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

::I personally think it's just a coincidence, but I don't mind leaving it for the time being; at least until further discussion is made regarding it. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 13:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I dunno, they look too similar to me to pass it off as mere coincidence... -{{User:YK/sig}} 18:26, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== Gallery of Helmets ==

Should there be a gallery of the helmets the Brothers are wearing?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 08:51, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:I second that idea, but I haven't had much luck figuring out most out the helmets.{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 21:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

::I agree; this is a good idea, though I think it could go [[Broternal Order of Different Helmets]] (which describes what each helmet is) Most (all?) of the helmets probably have pictures uploaded at pages like [[The Cheat Other Costumes]], etc. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:55, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== Loading, Friend ==

Is there any reason why the loading screen for this toon is "loading, friend,". If there is, please post it [[Irregular Loading Screens|here]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 11:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
*Probably because this toon is about a type of Brotherhood. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 13:08, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
It reminds me of Cheers, but thats probably just me.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 10:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== The Pants Lawsuit ==

I have severe doubts about that reference. For one, the dry cleaners lost his lucky pants, Bubs just can't fit in them. And for two, The Brothers Chaps very rarely make references to current news stories, one so innocuous as this one wouldn't be a prime candidate for an exception. We're ''really'' stretching it here.

:I agree with your skepticism; here's the fact as I removed it, in case people disagree. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 12:49, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
<blockquote>
Bubs's remark about being in a bad mood because he hasn't been able to fit his lucky pants might be a reference to a news story about a Washington DC Judge who sued a dry cleaner for $54 million dollars for losing his 'lucky' pants. The case was thrown out June 25, 2007 - one day before this toon was posted.
</blockquote>

== doodoo ==

The transcript currently says that Strong Bad says "that's horse pocky, you fools!" I'm 99.9% sure that it's actually "horse pucky", which is semi-obscure slang for horse poop, aka a variation on bullsh-t. Not only does this make more sense than "horse pocky", but one of the characters on M*A*S*H used to say it, and references to 70s/80s sitcoms are pretty standard on this site. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 13:13, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:Agreed. It should be changed. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 13:15, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
::Also agreed; I changed it to "horse puckey". {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:16, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:::The M*A*S*H character you're referring to is [[Wikipedia:Colonel Potter|Colonel Potter]]. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 04:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::::If memory serves, Colonel Potter's expression was "horse hockey." --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 16:43, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Potter does (well, did) indeed use the term "Horse hockey." However, Strong Bad clearly says "Pucky" on this toon. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 02:34, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

== BUBRUB! ==

Remember that news broadcast about the "whistle tips"? [http://youtube.com/watch?v=eSOSJ68xOBA It's on YouTube]. The guy's name on the news is Bubb Rubb. Maybe I'm just grasping at straws and the ointment is only named after Bubs himself, but when he held it up and I read the label, I immediately thought, "The whistles go whooooo!" [[User:William|William]] 14:19, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

-I don't think so. Rubs and ointments are a common theme through the Homestar Runner series, given that 'Bub(s)' rhymes with 'rub', I don't think any further explanation is needed. [[User:194.80.32.10|194.80.32.10]] 14:43, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

::Personally, I'm willing to allow it, because it is a fairly well-known meme. It ''might'' be a coincidence, but I think it's fairly likely that it's not. I'd leave the fact, but make sure it says that it ''could'' be a reference rather than it ''is'' a reference. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 17:15, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

I strongly disagree with this reference and I think it should be STUFF'd, if not removed outright. Thank you. --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 19:58, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Why do you disagree with it so strongly? The Bubb Rubb meme was, as 0rion pointed out, fairly popular, and even though rubs and ointments are a common occurrence in the H*R series, I think it's still likely to be an intentional reference. It's at least likely enough to warrant inclusion with the qualifier that it may possibly be a reference. If you feel so strongly against it, please explain your reasoning. [[User:72.248.107.194|72.248.107.194]] 14:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:I just felt the reference was a total stretch. Some folks are quick to call "real-world reference" just because it reminds them of something they've seen before, with no regard for relevance. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. I see this was STUFF'd and declined unanimously before I even had a chance to vote, so obviously I wasn't alone on this. --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 16:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::It's not a total stretch if it reminds people of the meme. The Brothers Chaps are very internet guys, and I'm sure they've seen it. If it makes it as a reference, here's a decent link to accompany it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KRON-TV#Bubb_Rubb -- [[User:Rueful|Rueful]] 20:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::It didn't make it, though. It has already been declined in STUFF. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:59, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I checked the STUFF page, and it was decided within five hours of being posted. I didn't even know it was on there until after it was already closed. It seems to me that it should be on there for at least a couple of days so that folks can know about it and discuss it. I'm not trying to be annoying about this, I just think that there are people who think that it is an intentional reference, and those people would have voted "Accept" if they'd known it was on the STUFF page. Even if the "Decline"'s still win, which I think they probably will, even with a longer vote, it seems unfair that there was such a brief window in which to actually vote. --[[User:Huitzilopochtli|Huitzilopochtli]] 21:52, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::This isn't the best place to discuss anyone's doubts in the STUFF process, but there were no supporting votes or arguments presented for that fact at all. The precedent in STUFF is that an item is "swiftly and unanimously declined" in that scenario. Surely ''someone'' would have supported it in that time frame if any numbers which could have outvoted at least 18 people were going to. I also want to point out that the STUFF notice was appropriately placed in the Fun Facts section. Anyone who wanted to review the STUFFed fact had that opportunity in that time frame - a high-activity time frame, as it happens. Again, out of all the registered users who could have, none supported it. Anyway, I think the fact was given a fair hearing and could never have achieved acceptance based on the way it went.
:::::Additionally, there's no purpose in holding a vote open if the outcome is clear. This is not like a presidential election or anything, where our future and security ride in the balance, and stopping voting early because there's a clear outcome is a violation of voters' rights. This is a STUFF vote for the purpose of determining consensus. Once consensus is reached, there's no reason to continue the exercise. Not that others' votes are unwanted, but because they are unneeded. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:07, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== Coldson like Molson? ==

Could the Coldson Lite can be a reference to Molson beer?
:Yes. The connection is already mentioned on the [[Cold Ones]] page, actually. -{{User:YK/sig}} 18:25, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== The Name ==

The name should be changed. I think something like "B.O.D.H." or "The Helmet Club" would be better until it shows up on the main page. I don't think ever and more was at all a significant part of the toon. [[User:D&d greg|D&d greg]] 20:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:We usually use the names as they appear on the [[HR:toons.html|official toons menu]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:56, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:: Oh yeah sorry. I hadn't cleared my cache and I didn't see anything on the toons menu. [[User:D&d greg|D&d greg]] 21:23, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== Homsar in the cast? ==

Should Homsar be in the Cast of Characters? It's a picture of him, not the actual Homsar, after all. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 22:05, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:Yup, he's not there, and neither should he be. Linked in the stage directions is fine. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:08, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== Legs?? ==
[[Image:Legs.png|thumb|60px|left]][[Image:NewestHomestar.png|thumb|60px]]
Did anyone watch this and think that Homestar's legs should have been visible a few times but were absent? Look at his...... waist, when he's backing away from the KoT, and also when they're doing the secret handshake. It's like they're not there. {{User:Salty/sig}} 22:56, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:Whoa, freaky! Good eye, I'd add it, but you saw it first. [[User:Elkmiester||\|/[_}-Elkmiester-{_]\|/|]] 00:05, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::I don't see a problem at all. His legs are not as wide as his torso, and they are usually more to the back of his body. See pictures. I'm gonna remove the fact.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

:::O.K., you're the sysoperson. [[User:Elkmiester||\|/[_}-Elkmiester-{_]\|/|]] 22:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::::Erm, sysops aren't all-knowing, you know... Don't just accept my opinion because I'm a sysop.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:16, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I know, I just wanted to joke a little. And say Sysoperson. Sorry, I know you're normal people. [[User:Elkmiester||\|/[_}-Elkmiester-{_]\|/|]]
== The bar in the basement ==

Just a note: in this toon, a stairway leading upwards from [[the bar]] is revealed. So, it's likely that the bar is in the basement of some other building.
#Perhaps the most logical building for it to be the basement of is [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], as it is a commercial establishment and TBC alluded to the possibility of exploring it further after Bubs descended into it in [[geddup noise]] (see the DVD commentary).
#Another possibility is that Homestar leaves the meeting to go take a bath in what appears to be the [[Bathroom of the Brothers Strong]] (in which we have [[Homestar Presents: Presents|previously seen]] an old-fashioned bathtub. So, it might seem that the bar is in the basement of the [[House of the Brothers Strong]]. However, this seems unlikely since we have seen much of that basement already ([[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Strong Bad's Room]]).
#Finally, it's possible that the bar is in the basement of [[Homestar Runner's House]]. In this case, it would seem that the bathroom Homestar goes to is his own, and that he, like Strong Bad has both an old-fashioned bathtub and a shower in his bathroom. Facts supporting this point of view are (a) Homestar has been seen most of the other appearances of the bar with Pom Pom, (b) it would make sense for Homestar to take a bath in his own tub, and (c) if Homestar is the Supreme Overlord of the [[Broternal Order of Different Helmets|Broternal Order]], it would make sense (though is not necessary) that he would hold meetings in his basement.

I think that one of these is intended, since they took the time to draw the staircase, but I'm not sure which one it is (I lean toward #1 and #3). Perhaps we'll have to wait for more data in future toons to decide. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:01, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I'd have to go with numbah one. It's a cool idea and makes perfect sense...Well, as much as a bald guy with no arms or pants. (Strong Mad) [[User:Elkmiester||\|/[_}-Elkmiester-{_]\|/|]]

:It's too easy to poke holes in these arguments though. Couldn't [[The Bar]] just be on X floor and the stairs lead up to X+1 floor? Why assume a basement? And why assume the bathroom is in the same building? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:10, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, there are too many unknowns to say anything for sure. It does seem like a basement though, as it lacks windows all around the room, and it's common for homes to have small bars or masculine-looking dens in their basements. Nevertheless, like you said, the arguments don't hold water on their own. We'll have to see if TBC ever address it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:19, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Until such time as we have a shred of evidence to go on, I've termed it "The Meetingplace of the Broternal Order" and left it at that. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:14, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::::No, it's still [[The Bar]] that they're in. The same one as [[Theme Song Video]] and [[Summer Short Shorts]]. It's the same wood paneling, the same lamp, the same dartboard, and the same pennant on the wall. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:47, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== tricycle recipe ==

here is a recipe for a tricycle fron surflounge.com/recipes
*Tricycle (TX Shooter)
**Equal parts:
**Midori
**Malibu
**Banana Liquer
**Milk
**Do not over pour milk or drink will suck!

 ive never heard of a tricycle recipe, but here one is...{{User:Csours/sig}} 01:48, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

==songs==

That club song is a recycled tune. The last time we heard it (last email) Homestar was hanging upside down singing "blacking out, blacking out, blacking out." & the easter egg song was from Disney's 'Duck Tales'.
:"The NeverEnding Story"? Don't think that's so. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::Actually, "blacking out, blacking out, blacking out" does sound kinda like "ever and more, ever and more, ever and more". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:30, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't think it does. They sound somepletely different to me. The only similarity is repeating a phrase three times. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 02:38, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

==Pirates of the Carribean==

If it was checkable, I'd bet money that the brothers chaps had that new pirates of the carribean movie as inspiration here. Anyone know what I'm talking about? [[User:68.44.199.208|68.44.199.208]] 02:27, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

:Not me, but fraternal organizations are a common entity in the US, so likely not a direct reference to any one film. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== Brother of Town ==

This is like the first time that anyone's ever treated the King of Town with any respect at all. Homestar invited him up to demonstrate a secret handshake with them. Maybe this is just cuz he's the only one who could actually DO a 'secret handshake' since neither of em have hands. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 04:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
: Seems fairly obvious, to me, that the KoT was simply chosen for the joke - he's the only main character present besides Homestar with no hands. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:: My first thought when Homestar said "handshake" was that Marzipan'd turn up, but I guess she wouldn't be in a brotherhood, what with the whole "female" thing and such... and I doubt Homsar would be able to pull off the whole handshake thing... so yeah, that only leaves KoT, out of the main 12. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:27, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::When Strong Bad and The Cheat practice it, they don't use their hands/arms, even though they ''clearly'' have them. A lack of visible arms is apparently not a factor. [[User:Neox|Neox]]
::::I think the joke is the have no visible arms, and then we see Strong Bad and The Cheat practice as if they also had no visible arms. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== Rollover Minutes ==

It has been suggested we discuss this before STUFFing it. What do you think about keeping this as a reference to at&t (formerly Cingular) Wireless' Rollover feature? It is obviously true, but it could be taken by some readers as an advertisement for the company. Thoughts? I am for keeping it personally.
[[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 06:36, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
: Who, precisely, are you arguing with? I don't see that there's any disagreement over this fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:40, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::I don't think the advertising factor is a problem — we're listing factual information to help explain the toon and linking to a non-commercial website. So, I think it should be okay. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:40, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

:PDG, I notice that you put on the STUFF page that this fact was added and removed. It was not removed; it was moved to a different place in Fun Facts. I think that might be the source of any confusion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:58, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, I didn't think to look to see if it had been moved first. My bad guys for pouring Fweska over the entry. [[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 16:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== Coach Z's Helmet ==

I have serious doubts on calling Coach Z's helmet a "Gladiator Helmet." The only distinctly gladiator helmet I know of is the Murmillo (fishman) helmet, and that certainly wasn't one. It kinda looks Greek (300 reference maybe?), but I'd guess it's either that or an early middle ages helmet (Saxon is what comes into my head). It's the nose guard. Not prevalent in a lot of roman helmets. I'm not extremely well informed on the subject, but it's just my thoughts, and I think it should probably just be called an iron war helmet or something.
:It's a barbute. Google it for pictures. Closest medieval helmet I could find, but the shape is distinct enough that I can say, beyond any reasonable doubt, that Coach Z's helmet was a barbute -- and therefore I edited this page and the Order's page.
::<s>I disagree. Wikipedia provides pictures way different from Coach Z's helmet. Although, I also have no idea what it could be. First thing I think of is knights of the medieval times...</s> Nope, nevermind. [[Wikipedia:Barbute|Wikipedia's]] description definitely shows Coach Z's helmet is a barbute. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:09, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Ever and More

0rion — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 02:34:05 GMT

0rion: /* doodoo */

=="Cold Ones Light" poster==
In the background of when Homestar opens the meeting, there's a poster for "Cold Ones Light." The logo looks remarkably familiar but I can't put my thumb of what brand it's suppose to be parodying. Anyone know? I think it should go in the "Real World References" part, perhaps. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:51, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:Reminds me of the [http://images.google.com/images?q=old%20style%20beer Old Style beer logo], but that's a Wisconsin/Chicago area brew, so I'm not sure that TBC would be familiar with it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:30, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:On the other hand, it is ''very'' close — it has the red and blue diagonal background on a shield, a similar font, and a red ribbon coming from the bottom. I think this is too similar to be a coincidence, so I'm gonna add it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:35, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

::I personally think it's just a coincidence, but I don't mind leaving it for the time being; at least until further discussion is made regarding it. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 13:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I dunno, they look too similar to me to pass it off as mere coincidence... -{{User:YK/sig}} 18:26, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== Gallery of Helmets ==

Should there be a gallery of the helmets the Brothers are wearing?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 08:51, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:I second that idea, but I haven't had much luck figuring out most out the helmets.{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 21:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

::I agree; this is a good idea, though I think it could go [[Broternal Order of Different Helmets]] (which describes what each helmet is) Most (all?) of the helmets probably have pictures uploaded at pages like [[The Cheat Other Costumes]], etc. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:55, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== Loading, Friend ==

Is there any reason why the loading screen for this toon is "loading, friend,". If there is, please post it [[Irregular Loading Screens|here]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 11:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
*Probably because this toon is about a type of Brotherhood. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 13:08, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
It reminds me of Cheers, but thats probably just me.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 10:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== The Pants Lawsuit ==

I have severe doubts about that reference. For one, the dry cleaners lost his lucky pants, Bubs just can't fit in them. And for two, The Brothers Chaps very rarely make references to current news stories, one so innocuous as this one wouldn't be a prime candidate for an exception. We're ''really'' stretching it here.

:I agree with your skepticism; here's the fact as I removed it, in case people disagree. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 12:49, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
<blockquote>
Bubs's remark about being in a bad mood because he hasn't been able to fit his lucky pants might be a reference to a news story about a Washington DC Judge who sued a dry cleaner for $54 million dollars for losing his 'lucky' pants. The case was thrown out June 25, 2007 - one day before this toon was posted.
</blockquote>

== doodoo ==

The transcript currently says that Strong Bad says "that's horse pocky, you fools!" I'm 99.9% sure that it's actually "horse pucky", which is semi-obscure slang for horse poop, aka a variation on bullsh-t. Not only does this make more sense than "horse pocky", but one of the characters on M*A*S*H used to say it, and references to 70s/80s sitcoms are pretty standard on this site. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 13:13, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:Agreed. It should be changed. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 13:15, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
::Also agreed; I changed it to "horse puckey". {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:16, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:::The M*A*S*H character you're referring to is [[Wikipedia:Colonel Potter|Colonel Potter]]. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 04:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::::If memory serves, Colonel Potter's expression was "horse hockey." --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 16:43, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Potter does (well, did) indeed use the term "Horse hockey." However, Strong Bad clearly says "Pucky" on this toon. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 02:34, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

== BUBRUB! ==

Remember that news broadcast about the "whistle tips"? [http://youtube.com/watch?v=eSOSJ68xOBA It's on YouTube]. The guy's name on the news is Bubb Rubb. Maybe I'm just grasping at straws and the ointment is only named after Bubs himself, but when he held it up and I read the label, I immediately thought, "The whistles go whooooo!" [[User:William|William]] 14:19, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

-I don't think so. Rubs and ointments are a common theme through the Homestar Runner series, given that 'Bub(s)' rhymes with 'rub', I don't think any further explanation is needed. [[User:194.80.32.10|194.80.32.10]] 14:43, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

::Personally, I'm willing to allow it, because it is a fairly well-known meme. It ''might'' be a coincidence, but I think it's fairly likely that it's not. I'd leave the fact, but make sure it says that it ''could'' be a reference rather than it ''is'' a reference. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 17:15, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

I strongly disagree with this reference and I think it should be STUFF'd, if not removed outright. Thank you. --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 19:58, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Why do you disagree with it so strongly? The Bubb Rubb meme was, as 0rion pointed out, fairly popular, and even though rubs and ointments are a common occurrence in the H*R series, I think it's still likely to be an intentional reference. It's at least likely enough to warrant inclusion with the qualifier that it may possibly be a reference. If you feel so strongly against it, please explain your reasoning. [[User:72.248.107.194|72.248.107.194]] 14:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:I just felt the reference was a total stretch. Some folks are quick to call "real-world reference" just because it reminds them of something they've seen before, with no regard for relevance. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. I see this was STUFF'd and declined unanimously before I even had a chance to vote, so obviously I wasn't alone on this. --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 16:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::It's not a total stretch if it reminds people of the meme. The Brothers Chaps are very internet guys, and I'm sure they've seen it. If it makes it as a reference, here's a decent link to accompany it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KRON-TV#Bubb_Rubb -- [[User:Rueful|Rueful]] 20:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::It didn't make it, though. It has already been declined in STUFF. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:59, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I checked the STUFF page, and it was decided within five hours of being posted. I didn't even know it was on there until after it was already closed. It seems to me that it should be on there for at least a couple of days so that folks can know about it and discuss it. I'm not trying to be annoying about this, I just think that there are people who think that it is an intentional reference, and those people would have voted "Accept" if they'd known it was on the STUFF page. Even if the "Decline"'s still win, which I think they probably will, even with a longer vote, it seems unfair that there was such a brief window in which to actually vote. --[[User:Huitzilopochtli|Huitzilopochtli]] 21:52, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::This isn't the best place to discuss anyone's doubts in the STUFF process, but there were no supporting votes or arguments presented for that fact at all. The precedent in STUFF is that an item is "swiftly and unanimously declined" in that scenario. Surely ''someone'' would have supported it in that time frame if any numbers which could have outvoted at least 18 people were going to. I also want to point out that the STUFF notice was appropriately placed in the Fun Facts section. Anyone who wanted to review the STUFFed fact had that opportunity in that time frame - a high-activity time frame, as it happens. Again, out of all the registered users who could have, none supported it. Anyway, I think the fact was given a fair hearing and could never have achieved acceptance based on the way it went.
:::::Additionally, there's no purpose in holding a vote open if the outcome is clear. This is not like a presidential election or anything, where our future and security ride in the balance, and stopping voting early because there's a clear outcome is a violation of voters' rights. This is a STUFF vote for the purpose of determining consensus. Once consensus is reached, there's no reason to continue the exercise. Not that others' votes are unwanted, but because they are unneeded. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:07, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== Coldson like Molson? ==

Could the Coldson Lite can be a reference to Molson beer?
:Yes. The connection is already mentioned on the [[Cold Ones]] page, actually. -{{User:YK/sig}} 18:25, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== The Name ==

The name should be changed. I think something like "B.O.D.H." or "The Helmet Club" would be better until it shows up on the main page. I don't think ever and more was at all a significant part of the toon. [[User:D&d greg|D&d greg]] 20:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:We usually use the names as they appear on the [[HR:toons.html|official toons menu]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:56, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:: Oh yeah sorry. I hadn't cleared my cache and I didn't see anything on the toons menu. [[User:D&d greg|D&d greg]] 21:23, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== Homsar in the cast? ==

Should Homsar be in the Cast of Characters? It's a picture of him, not the actual Homsar, after all. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 22:05, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:Yup, he's not there, and neither should he be. Linked in the stage directions is fine. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:08, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== Legs?? ==
[[Image:Legs.png|thumb|60px|left]][[Image:NewestHomestar.png|thumb|60px]]
Did anyone watch this and think that Homestar's legs should have been visible a few times but were absent? Look at his...... waist, when he's backing away from the KoT, and also when they're doing the secret handshake. It's like they're not there. {{User:Salty/sig}} 22:56, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:Whoa, freaky! Good eye, I'd add it, but you saw it first. [[User:Elkmiester||\|/[_}-Elkmiester-{_]\|/|]] 00:05, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::I don't see a problem at all. His legs are not as wide as his torso, and they are usually more to the back of his body. See pictures. I'm gonna remove the fact.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

:::O.K., you're the sysoperson. [[User:Elkmiester||\|/[_}-Elkmiester-{_]\|/|]] 22:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::::Erm, sysops aren't all-knowing, you know... Don't just accept my opinion because I'm a sysop.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:16, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I know, I just wanted to joke a little. And say Sysoperson. Sorry, I know you're normal people. [[User:Elkmiester||\|/[_}-Elkmiester-{_]\|/|]]
== The bar in the basement ==

Just a note: in this toon, a stairway leading upwards from [[the bar]] is revealed. So, it's likely that the bar is in the basement of some other building.
#Perhaps the most logical building for it to be the basement of is [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], as it is a commercial establishment and TBC alluded to the possibility of exploring it further after Bubs descended into it in [[geddup noise]] (see the DVD commentary).
#Another possibility is that Homestar leaves the meeting to go take a bath in what appears to be the [[Bathroom of the Brothers Strong]] (in which we have [[Homestar Presents: Presents|previously seen]] an old-fashioned bathtub. So, it might seem that the bar is in the basement of the [[House of the Brothers Strong]]. However, this seems unlikely since we have seen much of that basement already ([[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Strong Bad's Room]]).
#Finally, it's possible that the bar is in the basement of [[Homestar Runner's House]]. In this case, it would seem that the bathroom Homestar goes to is his own, and that he, like Strong Bad has both an old-fashioned bathtub and a shower in his bathroom. Facts supporting this point of view are (a) Homestar has been seen most of the other appearances of the bar with Pom Pom, (b) it would make sense for Homestar to take a bath in his own tub, and (c) if Homestar is the Supreme Overlord of the [[Broternal Order of Different Helmets|Broternal Order]], it would make sense (though is not necessary) that he would hold meetings in his basement.

I think that one of these is intended, since they took the time to draw the staircase, but I'm not sure which one it is (I lean toward #1 and #3). Perhaps we'll have to wait for more data in future toons to decide. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:01, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I'd have to go with numbah one. It's a cool idea and makes perfect sense...Well, as much as a bald guy with no arms or pants. (Strong Mad) [[User:Elkmiester||\|/[_}-Elkmiester-{_]\|/|]]

:It's too easy to poke holes in these arguments though. Couldn't [[The Bar]] just be on X floor and the stairs lead up to X+1 floor? Why assume a basement? And why assume the bathroom is in the same building? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:10, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, there are too many unknowns to say anything for sure. It does seem like a basement though, as it lacks windows all around the room, and it's common for homes to have small bars or masculine-looking dens in their basements. Nevertheless, like you said, the arguments don't hold water on their own. We'll have to see if TBC ever address it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:19, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Until such time as we have a shred of evidence to go on, I've termed it "The Meetingplace of the Broternal Order" and left it at that. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:14, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::::No, it's still [[The Bar]] that they're in. The same one as [[Theme Song Video]] and [[Summer Short Shorts]]. It's the same wood paneling, the same lamp, the same dartboard, and the same pennant on the wall. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:47, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== tricycle recipe ==

here is a recipe for a tricycle fron surflounge.com/recipes
*Tricycle (TX Shooter)
**Equal parts:
**Midori
**Malibu
**Banana Liquer
**Milk
**Do not over pour milk or drink will suck!

 ive never heard of a tricycle recipe, but here one is...{{User:Csours/sig}} 01:48, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

==songs==

That club song is a recycled tune. The last time we heard it (last email) Homestar was hanging upside down singing "blacking out, blacking out, blacking out." & the easter egg song was from Disney's 'Duck Tales'.
:"The NeverEnding Story"? Don't think that's so. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::Actually, "blacking out, blacking out, blacking out" does sound kinda like "ever and more, ever and more, ever and more". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:30, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

==Pirates of the Carribean==

If it was checkable, I'd bet money that the brothers chaps had that new pirates of the carribean movie as inspiration here. Anyone know what I'm talking about? [[User:68.44.199.208|68.44.199.208]] 02:27, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

:Not me, but fraternal organizations are a common entity in the US, so likely not a direct reference to any one film. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== Brother of Town ==

This is like the first time that anyone's ever treated the King of Town with any respect at all. Homestar invited him up to demonstrate a secret handshake with them. Maybe this is just cuz he's the only one who could actually DO a 'secret handshake' since neither of em have hands. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 04:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
: Seems fairly obvious, to me, that the KoT was simply chosen for the joke - he's the only main character present besides Homestar with no hands. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:: My first thought when Homestar said "handshake" was that Marzipan'd turn up, but I guess she wouldn't be in a brotherhood, what with the whole "female" thing and such... and I doubt Homsar would be able to pull off the whole handshake thing... so yeah, that only leaves KoT, out of the main 12. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:27, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::When Strong Bad and The Cheat practice it, they don't use their hands/arms, even though they ''clearly'' have them. A lack of visible arms is apparently not a factor. [[User:Neox|Neox]]
::::I think the joke is the have no visible arms, and then we see Strong Bad and The Cheat practice as if they also had no visible arms. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== Rollover Minutes ==

It has been suggested we discuss this before STUFFing it. What do you think about keeping this as a reference to at&t (formerly Cingular) Wireless' Rollover feature? It is obviously true, but it could be taken by some readers as an advertisement for the company. Thoughts? I am for keeping it personally.
[[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 06:36, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
: Who, precisely, are you arguing with? I don't see that there's any disagreement over this fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:40, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::I don't think the advertising factor is a problem — we're listing factual information to help explain the toon and linking to a non-commercial website. So, I think it should be okay. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:40, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

:PDG, I notice that you put on the STUFF page that this fact was added and removed. It was not removed; it was moved to a different place in Fun Facts. I think that might be the source of any confusion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:58, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, I didn't think to look to see if it had been moved first. My bad guys for pouring Fweska over the entry. [[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 16:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== Coach Z's Helmet ==

I have serious doubts on calling Coach Z's helmet a "Gladiator Helmet." The only distinctly gladiator helmet I know of is the Murmillo (fishman) helmet, and that certainly wasn't one. It kinda looks Greek (300 reference maybe?), but I'd guess it's either that or an early middle ages helmet (Saxon is what comes into my head). It's the nose guard. Not prevalent in a lot of roman helmets. I'm not extremely well informed on the subject, but it's just my thoughts, and I think it should probably just be called an iron war helmet or something.
:It's a barbute. Google it for pictures. Closest medieval helmet I could find, but the shape is distinct enough that I can say, beyond any reasonable doubt, that Coach Z's helmet was a barbute -- and therefore I edited this page and the Order's page.
::<s>I disagree. Wikipedia provides pictures way different from Coach Z's helmet. Although, I also have no idea what it could be. First thing I think of is knights of the medieval times...</s> Nope, nevermind. [[Wikipedia:Barbute|Wikipedia's]] description definitely shows Coach Z's helmet is a barbute. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:09, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Ever and More

0rion — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:29:36 GMT

0rion: /* Real-World References */ Little fix.

{{toonnav|Shorts|helmets|One Two, One Two|Strong Bad Sings}}
[[Image:Ever and More.png|thumb|"And now, to help me demonstrate the new secret handshake, I call forth Brother of Town!"]]
The [[Broternal Order of Different Helmets]] have a meeting.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Coach Z]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Bubs]], [[Strong Mad]], [[The Poopsmith]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[Strong Bad]], [[Pom Pom]], [[King of Town]], [[The Cheat]]

'''Places:''' [[The Bar]], [[Bathroom of the Brothers Strong]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' Tuesday, June 26, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 2:50

'''Page Title:''' B-O-D-H Local 1-1-Style

==Transcript==
''{Open on Coach Z and Strong Sad sitting at a table. Coach Z is wearing a gladiator's helmet, and Strong Sad is wearing his astronaut helmet}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oh, it's like a tricycle, but with nineteen wheels instead of three!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Coach Z, that's a ''horrible'' recipe!

'''COACH Z:''' Lemme run this one by ya. We start with a pound of rubber cement...

''{Cut to another view of the table, with Strong Mad, Bubs and The Poopsmith. Strong Mad is wearing a football helmet on top of his head, Bubs is wearing a fireman's hat, and The Poopsmith is wearing a Judge Dredd helmet}''

'''BUBS:''' I haven't been able to fit into my lucky pants for almost ten years! That's why come I'm in such a bad mood all the time!

'''STRONG MAD:''' I CAN LET OUT THE WAIST ''{Holds up needle and an extremely short length of thread}'' A LITTLE BIT FOR YOU!

'''BUBS:''' Hey, that'd be a sweet deal I couldn't refuse!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{offscreen}'' Order!

''{Strong Mad, Bubs and The Poopsmith pay attention. Cut to Homestar, who's wearing his horned helmet and banging a chicken drumstick on the table}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Order! I hereby call this meeting of the Broternal Order of Different Helmets to order! Now let us begin with a rousing rendition of our frothy, shanty chant. ''{Waving drumstick like a conductor's baton}'' And one, two, three!

''{Cut to another view of the table. Bubs, Strong Bad and Coach Z are visible. Strong Bad is wearing a miner's helmet}''

'''ALL:''' ''{singing}'' Ever and more, ever and more, ever and more!

''{Cut to another view. Strong Sad and Pom Pom are visible. Pom Pom is wearing a Samurai helmet. Strong Sad isn't singing and has his arms folded}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Singing—

'''ALL:''' ''{singing}'' Ever and more, ever and more, ever and more!

''{Cut back to Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' One more time!

''{Cut to a shot of The Poopsmith, The King of Town and Strong Sad, slowly zooming out. The King of Town is wearing an Imperial German Army helmet}''

'''ALL:''' ''{singing, getting higher at the end}'' Ever and more...

''{Cut to Bubs, Strong Bad and Coach Z, slowly panning left}''

'''ALL:''' ...ever and more...

''{Cut to The Cheat next to Strong Mad. The Cheat is wearing an old-fashioned British policeman's hat.}''

'''ALL:''' ...ever and more!

''{Cut back to Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Sad! Why weren't you singing?

''{Cut to Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' I don't believe in the message!

''{Cut to a view of Pom Pom, Homestar and The Cheat}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh, yes you do. All in favor?

''{Cut to Bubs, Strong Bad and Coach Z}''

'''ALL EXCEPT STRONG SAD:''' Aye!

''{Cut back to Pom Pom, Homestar and The Cheat}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All opposed?

''{Cut to Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Nay!

''{Cut back to Pom Pom, Homestar and The Cheat}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' The ayes win! ''{He ducks under the table and reappears next to Strong Sad}'' You believe in the message now!

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{Slapping Homestar on the back and smiling}'' I really do!

''{He ducks under the table and reappears in his original position}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I now give the floor to our treasurer, regarding shiny new ways to misappropriate funds.

''{Cut to Bubs}''

'''BUBS:''' Thank you, Brotherstar Runnerbro... ther. Well, I've taken the minutes ''{holds them up, music starts playing}'' from last's month's meeting and sold them as rollover minutes ''{holds up another piece of paper with a picture of Homsar on it}'' to third world countries! ''{places both pieces of paper down}'' Then I bought myself, I mean the Broternal Order of Different Helmets, a jetski! ''{holds up a jetski, slightly knocking the light, and puts it down}'' But then I wrecked it and broke my shin! ''{holds up crumpled leg}'' So now my rubbing ointment ''{holds it up}'' costs fifty bucks a tube!

''{Record scratch sound effect. Music stops. Cut back to Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Fantastic! And now, to help me demonstrate the new secret handshake, I call forth, Brother of Town.

''{The King of Town comes onscreen}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{Offscreen}'' Yaaaaay.

''{Homestar and the King of Town move around for a second}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Everybody got it? This: ''{The word "This" appears onscreen, then Homestar moves around as three arrows appear onscreen}'' Then this: ''{The words "Then this" appears onscreen, then Homestar moves around some more and more complex arrows appear on the screen}'' And now Brother Strong Bad, with his weekly power play.

''{Cut to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Clears throat, then speaks angrily}'' What's the matter with you guys? I should be in charge here! Why is Homestar running this secret club? ''{banging his fist on the table}'' Singing songs and secret handshakes? That's rejected Girl Scout camp material! Put me in charge, and we'll be hitting each other with wooden stools until the morning light! Eating triple-fried pork rinds and burping video game music six ways till Tuesday! "Ever and More"? That's horse puckey, you fools! It's all marketing mumbo jumbo! ''{upset}'' Don't believe a word of it!!

''{Strong Bad pants and shakes. Homestar leans onscreen.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thank you, Strong Bad. We look forward to hearing from you next week.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{subdued}'' Thank you, Supreme Overlord.

''{Homestar leans offscreen. Cut to Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' And with that, our meeting is adjourned. So everybody buddy up and get to work on that secret handshake. I'm gonna go take a bath in a pile of gold coins.

''{Homestar walks offscreen. Cut to Strong Bad and The Cheat imitating the movements Homestar and the King of Town made earlier, with their hands on their hips. Cut to the words "end, friend." on a black screen}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on "friend." at the end of the short to see Homestar Runner laying in a bathtub full of gold coins in the bathroom of the Brothers Strong.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing to the tune of the ''[[Wikipedia:DuckTales|DuckTales]]'' theme song}'' Lasers, race cars, aeroplanes, doo doo, ah-doo doo!

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*"Broternal" is a [[portmanteau]] of "brotherly" and "fraternal", two adjectives that are often found in names of male-only secret societies.

===Remarks===
*The only other time that Homestar seemed able to exercise any kind of authority over Strong Bad was in the email [[bottom 10]] when, somehow, Homestar was able to convince Strong Bad to keep hugging a tree.

===Goofs===
*When Strong Mad holds up the needle as he talks his lower lip overlaps on the needle.

===Inside References===
* Strong Sad's astronaut costume was previously seen in [[senior prom]], though he's only wearing the helmet part here.
* The order's song was previously sung by Homestar in [[the movies]]. Homestar also wore the [[horned helmet]] in that email.
* Strong Bad's miner helmet was seen in the email [[cheatday]].
* The King of Town's German helmet is similar to the one [[The Kaiser]], his [[Old-Timey]] counterpart, wears.
* The Broternal Order's secret handshake is another reference to characters' [[Lack of Visible Arms]].
* This is an occurrence of [[Strong Sad Smiling]].
* The pennant on the wall reads "[[Lemke|LEMKE!]]".
* Bubs's jetski is labeled "WETSKi", another instance of [[Lowercase i's]].
* Bubs mentions his lucky [[pants]].
* Pom Pom's [[Wikipedia: samurai|samurai]] helmet is a reference to Pom Pom's [[Pom Pom#Fighting Skills|martial arts skills]].
* The webpage title mentions [[style]].

===Real-World References===
[[Image:Cold Ones Light Old Style.png|thumb|Old Style Cold Ones]]
*The Poopsmith is wearing [[Wikipedia:Judge Dredd|Judge Dredd]]'s helmet.
*The [[Cold Ones]] Light poster closely resembles the [[Wikipedia:Pabst Brewing Company#Old Style|Old Style]] beer logo.
*The lyrics Homestar sings in the bathtub of gold coins are rearranged from the theme song to [[Wikipedia:Disney|Disney]]'s ''[[Wikipedia:DuckTales|DuckTales]]''. Homestar's behavior mirrors [[Wikipedia: Scrooge McDuck|Scrooge McDuck]]'s, who enjoyed diving through his coin-filled [[Wikipedia:Money Bin|Money Bin]].
*Bubs selling rollover minutes is a reference to [[Wikipedia:at&t|at&t]] (formerly [[Wikipedia:Cingular|Cingular]]) wireless. One of their largest selling points is their rollover minutes, the ability to take unused minutes from one month and carry them to the next.
*Bubs holds up a tube of ointment labeled "BUBRUB". This is likely a reference to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KRON-TV#Bubb_Rubb Bubb Rubb], a man featured on a viral video news clip from KRON-TV in San Francisco. The man's antics on-camera became a fairly well-known Internet phenomenon.

== External Links ==
* [[HR:helmets.html|watch "Ever and More!"]]
* [[HR:helmets.swf|view the Flash file for "Ever and More!"]]
* [[Forum:11746|forum thread re: "Ever and More!"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|helmets}}
[[Category:Shorts]]

Ever and More

0rion — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:28:34 GMT

0rion: /* Real-World References */ I'm willing to keep the reference, but there's always a chance that it's a coincidence. Also, you linked to wiki, so no need to go into detail about it here.

{{toonnav|Shorts|helmets|One Two, One Two|Strong Bad Sings}}
[[Image:Ever and More.png|thumb|"And now, to help me demonstrate the new secret handshake, I call forth Brother of Town!"]]
The [[Broternal Order of Different Helmets]] have a meeting.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Coach Z]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Bubs]], [[Strong Mad]], [[The Poopsmith]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[Strong Bad]], [[Pom Pom]], [[King of Town]], [[The Cheat]]

'''Places:''' [[The Bar]], [[Bathroom of the Brothers Strong]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' Tuesday, June 26, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 2:50

'''Page Title:''' B-O-D-H Local 1-1-Style

==Transcript==
''{Open on Coach Z and Strong Sad sitting at a table. Coach Z is wearing a gladiator's helmet, and Strong Sad is wearing his astronaut helmet}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oh, it's like a tricycle, but with nineteen wheels instead of three!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Coach Z, that's a ''horrible'' recipe!

'''COACH Z:''' Lemme run this one by ya. We start with a pound of rubber cement...

''{Cut to another view of the table, with Strong Mad, Bubs and The Poopsmith. Strong Mad is wearing a football helmet on top of his head, Bubs is wearing a fireman's hat, and The Poopsmith is wearing a Judge Dredd helmet}''

'''BUBS:''' I haven't been able to fit into my lucky pants for almost ten years! That's why come I'm in such a bad mood all the time!

'''STRONG MAD:''' I CAN LET OUT THE WAIST ''{Holds up needle and an extremely short length of thread}'' A LITTLE BIT FOR YOU!

'''BUBS:''' Hey, that'd be a sweet deal I couldn't refuse!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{offscreen}'' Order!

''{Strong Mad, Bubs and The Poopsmith pay attention. Cut to Homestar, who's wearing his horned helmet and banging a chicken drumstick on the table}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Order! I hereby call this meeting of the Broternal Order of Different Helmets to order! Now let us begin with a rousing rendition of our frothy, shanty chant. ''{Waving drumstick like a conductor's baton}'' And one, two, three!

''{Cut to another view of the table. Bubs, Strong Bad and Coach Z are visible. Strong Bad is wearing a miner's helmet}''

'''ALL:''' ''{singing}'' Ever and more, ever and more, ever and more!

''{Cut to another view. Strong Sad and Pom Pom are visible. Pom Pom is wearing a Samurai helmet. Strong Sad isn't singing and has his arms folded}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Singing—

'''ALL:''' ''{singing}'' Ever and more, ever and more, ever and more!

''{Cut back to Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' One more time!

''{Cut to a shot of The Poopsmith, The King of Town and Strong Sad, slowly zooming out. The King of Town is wearing an Imperial German Army helmet}''

'''ALL:''' ''{singing, getting higher at the end}'' Ever and more...

''{Cut to Bubs, Strong Bad and Coach Z, slowly panning left}''

'''ALL:''' ...ever and more...

''{Cut to The Cheat next to Strong Mad. The Cheat is wearing an old-fashioned British policeman's hat.}''

'''ALL:''' ...ever and more!

''{Cut back to Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Sad! Why weren't you singing?

''{Cut to Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' I don't believe in the message!

''{Cut to a view of Pom Pom, Homestar and The Cheat}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh, yes you do. All in favor?

''{Cut to Bubs, Strong Bad and Coach Z}''

'''ALL EXCEPT STRONG SAD:''' Aye!

''{Cut back to Pom Pom, Homestar and The Cheat}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All opposed?

''{Cut to Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Nay!

''{Cut back to Pom Pom, Homestar and The Cheat}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' The ayes win! ''{He ducks under the table and reappears next to Strong Sad}'' You believe in the message now!

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{Slapping Homestar on the back and smiling}'' I really do!

''{He ducks under the table and reappears in his original position}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I now give the floor to our treasurer, regarding shiny new ways to misappropriate funds.

''{Cut to Bubs}''

'''BUBS:''' Thank you, Brotherstar Runnerbro... ther. Well, I've taken the minutes ''{holds them up, music starts playing}'' from last's month's meeting and sold them as rollover minutes ''{holds up another piece of paper with a picture of Homsar on it}'' to third world countries! ''{places both pieces of paper down}'' Then I bought myself, I mean the Broternal Order of Different Helmets, a jetski! ''{holds up a jetski, slightly knocking the light, and puts it down}'' But then I wrecked it and broke my shin! ''{holds up crumpled leg}'' So now my rubbing ointment ''{holds it up}'' costs fifty bucks a tube!

''{Record scratch sound effect. Music stops. Cut back to Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Fantastic! And now, to help me demonstrate the new secret handshake, I call forth, Brother of Town.

''{The King of Town comes onscreen}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{Offscreen}'' Yaaaaay.

''{Homestar and the King of Town move around for a second}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Everybody got it? This: ''{The word "This" appears onscreen, then Homestar moves around as three arrows appear onscreen}'' Then this: ''{The words "Then this" appears onscreen, then Homestar moves around some more and more complex arrows appear on the screen}'' And now Brother Strong Bad, with his weekly power play.

''{Cut to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Clears throat, then speaks angrily}'' What's the matter with you guys? I should be in charge here! Why is Homestar running this secret club? ''{banging his fist on the table}'' Singing songs and secret handshakes? That's rejected Girl Scout camp material! Put me in charge, and we'll be hitting each other with wooden stools until the morning light! Eating triple-fried pork rinds and burping video game music six ways till Tuesday! "Ever and More"? That's horse puckey, you fools! It's all marketing mumbo jumbo! ''{upset}'' Don't believe a word of it!!

''{Strong Bad pants and shakes. Homestar leans onscreen.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thank you, Strong Bad. We look forward to hearing from you next week.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{subdued}'' Thank you, Supreme Overlord.

''{Homestar leans offscreen. Cut to Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' And with that, our meeting is adjourned. So everybody buddy up and get to work on that secret handshake. I'm gonna go take a bath in a pile of gold coins.

''{Homestar walks offscreen. Cut to Strong Bad and The Cheat imitating the movements Homestar and the King of Town made earlier, with their hands on their hips. Cut to the words "end, friend." on a black screen}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on "friend." at the end of the short to see Homestar Runner laying in a bathtub full of gold coins in the bathroom of the Brothers Strong.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing to the tune of the ''[[Wikipedia:DuckTales|DuckTales]]'' theme song}'' Lasers, race cars, aeroplanes, doo doo, ah-doo doo!

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*"Broternal" is a [[portmanteau]] of "brotherly" and "fraternal", two adjectives that are often found in names of male-only secret societies.

===Remarks===
*The only other time that Homestar seemed able to exercise any kind of authority over Strong Bad was in the email [[bottom 10]] when, somehow, Homestar was able to convince Strong Bad to keep hugging a tree.

===Goofs===
*When Strong Mad holds up the needle as he talks his lower lip overlaps on the needle.

===Inside References===
* Strong Sad's astronaut costume was previously seen in [[senior prom]], though he's only wearing the helmet part here.
* The order's song was previously sung by Homestar in [[the movies]]. Homestar also wore the [[horned helmet]] in that email.
* Strong Bad's miner helmet was seen in the email [[cheatday]].
* The King of Town's German helmet is similar to the one [[The Kaiser]], his [[Old-Timey]] counterpart, wears.
* The Broternal Order's secret handshake is another reference to characters' [[Lack of Visible Arms]].
* This is an occurrence of [[Strong Sad Smiling]].
* The pennant on the wall reads "[[Lemke|LEMKE!]]".
* Bubs's jetski is labeled "WETSKi", another instance of [[Lowercase i's]].
* Bubs mentions his lucky [[pants]].
* Pom Pom's [[Wikipedia: samurai|samurai]] helmet is a reference to Pom Pom's [[Pom Pom#Fighting Skills|martial arts skills]].
* The webpage title mentions [[style]].

===Real-World References===
[[Image:Cold Ones Light Old Style.png|thumb|Old Style Cold Ones]]
*The Poopsmith is wearing [[Wikipedia:Judge Dredd|Judge Dredd]]'s helmet.
*The [[Cold Ones]] Light poster closely resembles the [[Wikipedia:Pabst Brewing Company#Old Style|Old Style]] beer logo.
*The lyrics Homestar sings in the bathtub of gold coins are rearranged from the theme song to [[Wikipedia:Disney|Disney]]'s ''[[Wikipedia:DuckTales|DuckTales]]''. Homestar's behavior mirrors [[Wikipedia: Scrooge McDuck|Scrooge McDuck]]'s, who enjoyed diving through his coin-filled [[Wikipedia:Money Bin|Money Bin]].
*Bubs selling rollover minutes is a reference to [[Wikipedia:at&t|at&t]] (formerly [[Wikipedia:Cingular|Cingular]]) wireless. One of their largest selling points is their rollover minutes, the ability to take unused minutes from one month and carry them to the next.
*Bubs holds up a tube of ointment labeled "BUBRUB". This is likely a reference to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KRON-TV#Bubb_Rubb Bubb Rubb], a man featured on a viral video news clip from KRON-TV in San Francisco.

== External Links ==
* [[HR:helmets.html|watch "Ever and More!"]]
* [[HR:helmets.swf|view the Flash file for "Ever and More!"]]
* [[Forum:11746|forum thread re: "Ever and More!"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|helmets}}
[[Category:Shorts]]

Ever and More

0rion — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:20:15 GMT

0rion: /* Transcript */ I figured this was noteworthy since it's Strong Sad; especially given his sudden reversal.

{{toonnav|Shorts|helmets|One Two, One Two|Strong Bad Sings}}
[[Image:Ever and More.png|thumb|"And now, to help me demonstrate the new secret handshake, I call forth Brother of Town!"]]
The [[Broternal Order of Different Helmets]] have a meeting.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Coach Z]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Bubs]], [[Strong Mad]], [[The Poopsmith]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[Strong Bad]], [[Pom Pom]], [[King of Town]], [[The Cheat]]

'''Places:''' [[The Bar]], [[Bathroom of the Brothers Strong]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' Tuesday, June 26, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 2:50

'''Page Title:''' B-O-D-H Local 1-1-Style

==Transcript==
''{Open on Coach Z and Strong Sad sitting at a table. Coach Z is wearing a gladiator's helmet, and Strong Sad is wearing his astronaut helmet}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oh, it's like a tricycle, but with nineteen wheels instead of three!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Coach Z, that's a ''horrible'' recipe!

'''COACH Z:''' Lemme run this one by ya. We start with a pound of rubber cement...

''{Cut to another view of the table, with Strong Mad, Bubs and The Poopsmith. Strong Mad is wearing a football helmet on top of his head, Bubs is wearing a fireman's hat, and The Poopsmith is wearing a Judge Dredd helmet}''

'''BUBS:''' I haven't been able to fit into my lucky pants for almost ten years! That's why come I'm in such a bad mood all the time!

'''STRONG MAD:''' I CAN LET OUT THE WAIST ''{Holds up needle and an extremely short length of thread}'' A LITTLE BIT FOR YOU!

'''BUBS:''' Hey, that'd be a sweet deal I couldn't refuse!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{offscreen}'' Order!

''{Strong Mad, Bubs and The Poopsmith pay attention. Cut to Homestar, who's wearing his horned helmet and banging a chicken drumstick on the table}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Order! I hereby call this meeting of the Broternal Order of Different Helmets to order! Now let us begin with a rousing rendition of our frothy, shanty chant. ''{Waving drumstick like a conductor's baton}'' And one, two, three!

''{Cut to another view of the table. Bubs, Strong Bad and Coach Z are visible. Strong Bad is wearing a miner's helmet}''

'''ALL:''' ''{singing}'' Ever and more, ever and more, ever and more!

''{Cut to another view. Strong Sad and Pom Pom are visible. Pom Pom is wearing a Samurai helmet. Strong Sad isn't singing and has his arms folded}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Singing—

'''ALL:''' ''{singing}'' Ever and more, ever and more, ever and more!

''{Cut back to Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' One more time!

''{Cut to a shot of The Poopsmith, The King of Town and Strong Sad, slowly zooming out. The King of Town is wearing an Imperial German Army helmet}''

'''ALL:''' ''{singing, getting higher at the end}'' Ever and more...

''{Cut to Bubs, Strong Bad and Coach Z, slowly panning left}''

'''ALL:''' ...ever and more...

''{Cut to The Cheat next to Strong Mad. The Cheat is wearing an old-fashioned British policeman's hat.}''

'''ALL:''' ...ever and more!

''{Cut back to Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Sad! Why weren't you singing?

''{Cut to Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' I don't believe in the message!

''{Cut to a view of Pom Pom, Homestar and The Cheat}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh, yes you do. All in favor?

''{Cut to Bubs, Strong Bad and Coach Z}''

'''ALL EXCEPT STRONG SAD:''' Aye!

''{Cut back to Pom Pom, Homestar and The Cheat}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All opposed?

''{Cut to Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Nay!

''{Cut back to Pom Pom, Homestar and The Cheat}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' The ayes win! ''{He ducks under the table and reappears next to Strong Sad}'' You believe in the message now!

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{Slapping Homestar on the back and smiling}'' I really do!

''{He ducks under the table and reappears in his original position}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I now give the floor to our treasurer, regarding shiny new ways to misappropriate funds.

''{Cut to Bubs}''

'''BUBS:''' Thank you, Brotherstar Runnerbro... ther. Well, I've taken the minutes ''{holds them up, music starts playing}'' from last's month's meeting and sold them as rollover minutes ''{holds up another piece of paper with a picture of Homsar on it}'' to third world countries! ''{places both pieces of paper down}'' Then I bought myself, I mean the Broternal Order of Different Helmets, a jetski! ''{holds up a jetski, slightly knocking the light, and puts it down}'' But then I wrecked it and broke my shin! ''{holds up crumpled leg}'' So now my rubbing ointment ''{holds it up}'' costs fifty bucks a tube!

''{Record scratch sound effect. Music stops. Cut back to Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Fantastic! And now, to help me demonstrate the new secret handshake, I call forth, Brother of Town.

''{The King of Town comes onscreen}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{Offscreen}'' Yaaaaay.

''{Homestar and the King of Town move around for a second}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Everybody got it? This: ''{The word "This" appears onscreen, then Homestar moves around as three arrows appear onscreen}'' Then this: ''{The words "Then this" appears onscreen, then Homestar moves around some more and more complex arrows appear on the screen}'' And now Brother Strong Bad, with his weekly power play.

''{Cut to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Clears throat, then speaks angrily}'' What's the matter with you guys? I should be in charge here! Why is Homestar running this secret club? ''{banging his fist on the table}'' Singing songs and secret handshakes? That's rejected Girl Scout camp material! Put me in charge, and we'll be hitting each other with wooden stools until the morning light! Eating triple-fried pork rinds and burping video game music six ways till Tuesday! "Ever and More"? That's horse puckey, you fools! It's all marketing mumbo jumbo! ''{upset}'' Don't believe a word of it!!

''{Strong Bad pants and shakes. Homestar leans onscreen.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thank you, Strong Bad. We look forward to hearing from you next week.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{subdued}'' Thank you, Supreme Overlord.

''{Homestar leans offscreen. Cut to Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' And with that, our meeting is adjourned. So everybody buddy up and get to work on that secret handshake. I'm gonna go take a bath in a pile of gold coins.

''{Homestar walks offscreen. Cut to Strong Bad and The Cheat imitating the movements Homestar and the King of Town made earlier, with their hands on their hips. Cut to the words "end, friend." on a black screen}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on "friend." at the end of the short to see Homestar Runner laying in a bathtub full of gold coins in the bathroom of the Brothers Strong.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing to the tune of the ''[[Wikipedia:DuckTales|DuckTales]]'' theme song}'' Lasers, race cars, aeroplanes, doo doo, ah-doo doo!

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*"Broternal" is a [[portmanteau]] of "brotherly" and "fraternal", two adjectives that are often found in names of male-only secret societies.

===Remarks===
*The only other time that Homestar seemed able to exercise any kind of authority over Strong Bad was in the email [[bottom 10]] when, somehow, Homestar was able to convince Strong Bad to keep hugging a tree.

===Goofs===
*When Strong Mad holds up the needle as he talks his lower lip overlaps on the needle.

===Inside References===
* Strong Sad's astronaut costume was previously seen in [[senior prom]], though he's only wearing the helmet part here.
* The order's song was previously sung by Homestar in [[the movies]]. Homestar also wore the [[horned helmet]] in that email.
* Strong Bad's miner helmet was seen in the email [[cheatday]].
* The King of Town's German helmet is similar to the one [[The Kaiser]], his [[Old-Timey]] counterpart, wears.
* The Broternal Order's secret handshake is another reference to characters' [[Lack of Visible Arms]].
* This is an occurrence of [[Strong Sad Smiling]].
* The pennant on the wall reads "[[Lemke|LEMKE!]]".
* Bubs's jetski is labeled "WETSKi", another instance of [[Lowercase i's]].
* Bubs mentions his lucky [[pants]].
* Pom Pom's [[Wikipedia: samurai|samurai]] helmet is a reference to Pom Pom's [[Pom Pom#Fighting Skills|martial arts skills]].
* The webpage title mentions [[style]].

===Real-World References===
[[Image:Cold Ones Light Old Style.png|thumb|Old Style Cold Ones]]
*The Poopsmith is wearing [[Wikipedia:Judge Dredd|Judge Dredd]]'s helmet.
*The [[Cold Ones]] Light poster closely resembles the [[Wikipedia:Pabst Brewing Company#Old Style|Old Style]] beer logo.
*The lyrics Homestar sings in the bathtub of gold coins are rearranged from the theme song to [[Wikipedia:Disney|Disney]]'s ''[[Wikipedia:DuckTales|DuckTales]]''. Homestar's behavior mirrors [[Wikipedia: Scrooge McDuck|Scrooge McDuck]]'s, who enjoyed diving through his coin-filled [[Wikipedia:Money Bin|Money Bin]].
*Bubs selling rollover minutes is a reference to [[Wikipedia:at&t|at&t]] (formerly [[Wikipedia:Cingular|Cingular]]) wireless. One of their largest selling points is their rollover minutes, the ability to take unused minutes from one month and carry them to the next.
*Bubs holds up a tube of ointment labeled "BUBRUB". This is a reference to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KRON-TV#Bubb_Rubb Bubb Rubb], a man featured on a viral video news clip from KRON-TV in San Francisco. The news story featured whistle tips, a piece of metal welded into a car's muffler, creating a loud, high-pitched whistle when the car is running. Bubb Rubb was featured in the video, defending the use of whistle tips, using the now-famous catchphrase, "''The whistles go WOO WOO!!''"

== External Links ==
* [[HR:helmets.html|watch "Ever and More!"]]
* [[HR:helmets.swf|view the Flash file for "Ever and More!"]]
* [[Forum:11746|forum thread re: "Ever and More!"]]

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Talk:Ever and More

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Talk:Ever and More

0rion — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:15:14 GMT

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Irregular Loading Screens

0rion — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:12:44 GMT

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In many [[toons]] and [[games]], the '''loading screen''' has something on other than the standard "Loading...". Many of these have some relevance to the toon/game they appear in.

==List==
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=3 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Toon/Game !! Loading Screen !! Relevance to toon/game !! Picture
|-
| [[50K Racewalker]] || loada... || None || [[Image:Loada.png|150px]]
|-
| [[Experimental Film]] || comin' up || None || [[Image:Comin' up.png|150px]]
|-
| [[Hallrunner]] || loadaling || None || [[Image:Loadaling.png|150px]]
|-
| [[Happy Fireworks]] || Loafing... || What Coach Z and Bubs are doing at the start of the toon || [[Image:Loafing.png|150px]]
|-
| [[Homestarloween Party]] || loading the Halloween deal || It's a Halloween toon. || [[Image:Loading the Halloween deal.png|150px]]
|-
| [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] ''[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!#Strong Bad "Trap Door" Sample|The Email Show]]'' sample || loading free pay sample... || A free sample of the PAY PLUS content. || [[Image:Loading free pay sample.png|150px]]
|-
| [[Kick The Cheat]] || Loadin || None || [[Image:Loadin.png|150px]]
|-
| [[Kid Speedy]] || WIDE LOADING || The main character of the game is a "little fatso". || [[Image:Wideloading.PNG|150px]]
|-
| [[Marshie's Malloween Mix-Up]] || Lourding... || None, but it may refer to the [[Heavy Lourde]] || [[Image:Lourding.png|150px]]
|-
| [[More Fan Costumes]] || loadems... || None || [[Image:Loadems.png|150px]]
|-
| [[No Hands On Deck!]] || loadinate || May be a reference to [[Trogdor|Burninate]]. || [[Image:Loadinate-deck.png|150px]]
|-
| [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] || Rather loading... || The main character is [[Rather Dashing]]. || [[Image:Rather Loading.png|150px]]
|-
| [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] Old Version || loading a fairly big deal... || [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] made a big deal of this toon, so much their server crashed by the initial onslaught of viewers || [[Image:Loading a fairly big deal.png|150px]]
|-
| [[Peasant's Quest Preview]], [[Snowglobe]] || VOADING || It's a preview of a [[Videlectrix]] game. || [[Image:Voading.png|150px]]
|-
| [[Seasonal Sweaters]] || LOAD IT! || None || [[Image:Load it.png|150px]]
|-
| [[Stinkoman 20X6]] || LOAD IT UP... || The Game uses [[deliberately poor English]] throughout. || [[Image:Load it up.png|150px]]
|-
| [[Stinkomanual]] || loading manuél || It's an instruction manual, and the spelling displays [[Deliberately Poor English|poor English]]. || [[Image:Loading_manuel.PNG|150px]]
|-
| [[Strong Bad's Website]] || LO-DING || None || [[Image:Lo-Ding.PNG|150px]]
|-
| [[Superbowl Dealie]] || ''{No loading screen}'' || None || -
|-
| [[The Cheatar]] || Comin' up... || The font is reminiscent of the logo of the heavy metal band [[Wikipedia:Iron Maiden (band)|Iron Maiden]]. || [[Image:Comin' up (Cheatar).png|150px]]
|-
| [[Eggs (toon)|Eggs]] || Legging... || The toon is about [[eggs]]. || [[Image:Legging.PNG|150px]]
|-
| [[Ever and More!]] || loading, friend. || This is likely a reference to the fact that the toon parodies various Brotherhoods and Fraternities. The loading screen seems to be a parody of fraternal greetings. ||[[Image:loadingfriend.png|150px]]
|}

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0rion — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:10:30 GMT

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