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107.77.76.53 — Thu, 23 May 2019 23:13:56 GMT

107.77.76.53: /* Did the KoT say he hates peas? */

== What Year It Is ==

I have always wondered what year it is in the world of HSR. This is the first time that I am aware of that the date was so clearly stated to be the present. The Cheat uses new computers, so we know that Strong Bad uses old ones, but that is the only time before that I am aware of that the year has been hinted at.

: As Strong Sad himself says in here, "It's not called TrogdorCon and it's 2005!"
:: An awful lot of users not using signatures! anyhow the strong bad email [[environment]] strong bad says it is 2008, which it was at the time. to put it vaguely, they follow the same time as we do.--[[user:safariventureman|safariventureman]] 10:59, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
::: If there had been a signature, you would have seen that the comment you're replying to is five and a half years old. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:55, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
::: Oh my grawsh, it is! I fell ancient!--[[user:safariventureman|safariventureman]] 00:31, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

==The Longest Short==
I think the designation "short" no longer refers to the length of the toon, but to its structure. "Toons" attempt (more or less) to tell a story, whereas "shorts" are more of a "slice-of-life" scene. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:00, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I think you're right on the money, Dot com. But it also seems like all of the puppet stuff are also in this "short" designation.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 16:18, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::Er, don't all the puppet stuffs get their own category? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:22, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::I know, I'm just saying that alot of the puppet stuff are "slices-of-life" is all.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 16:38, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
I've found the answer!! Toons actually have opening credits (where it says like "Voices by Matt and Missy", etc) or show the title, while shorts don't. {{User:Salty/sig}} 15:48, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

== Senor Cardgage ==

The pea soup is totally a reference to Senor Cardgage. [[User:66.222.39.60|66.222.39.60]] 16:07, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

You're right, man. Though I think it has something from "50K RACEWALKER". [[User:The 386|The 386]] 16:07, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

What did you do? It goes to the first headline!

No, it is probably just a reference to the Kings hate of peas. - Lord-Z

== Smiling ==

I don't know about the rest of you, but this is the first time Iv'e really noticed Strong Bad actually "smile". {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 19:05, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:He doesn't do it a lot, but (off the top of my head) two fairly recent times he does are in [[modeling]] when he's posing for pictures and [[montage]] when he's romancing the Wagon Fulla Pancakes. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:08, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::And don't forget when he makes fun of Coach Z in [[A Jorb Well Done]]! - [[User:The Chort|The Chort]] 19:25, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah, but I mean like, go from frowning to smiling. Unless thats what he was doing in [[modeling]] and [[montage]]. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 19:14, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::He must have really liked his joke. He hardly ever if ever goes from frowning to smiling like that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

:Yeah, which is a bit surprising for Strong Bad, because he should of even noticed that it wasn't a very good joke... {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 23:35, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::He also smiled in the email [[for kids]].---Strongglad

:I know that he went from smile to frown in [[marzipan]]. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:31, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::Just to follow up on this discussion here, [[Strong Bad Smiling]] is now an article. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:44, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

== Gothified Dork?? ==

Any idea who Strong Sad was suppose to be? {{User:Trogga/sig}}

I don't think he was anyone in particular, but rather just wearing a typical costume of that sort. --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]

He is definitely someone specific, but for the life of me I can't place him. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 13:50, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Maybe he was dressed like how someone TBC saw dressed at the DragonCon. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 00:55, 9 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== 709 ==

Anyone else think The Cheat Mention Booth 709 could be a refrence to Seven of Nine from Star Trek? It'd sure go well with the dorky con tone. -anon

:um, anon thats kinda a stretch but that's just me...-[[User:Timmy!]]

:There's nothing about the booth (which features horns, axes, and swords), other than the first and last digit of the booth number, that suggests Voyager or Seven at all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:18, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Booth 709 at Dragoncon was Edhellen Armoury, it sold the referenced items. -steve-o

I thought the same thing at first, but if it's a real booth IT ISN'T a reference. And anyway, 7 of 9 has nothing to do with axes - kyky

==new page?????come on, you know you want to!==
i think we should create a page for booth 101-[[user:Timmy!]]
:What for? There's nothing to go on it. The area itself is very nondescript. It's a table. All of the action occurs in the transcript. What else could be said? At least with Balding Man's Living Room, there's a chance we'll see it again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:25, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
but we made a page for the mayor in the folky tale toon!and he didnt appear as
much as the booth itself!-[[User:Timmy!]]

Yes, but he was a fictional character. This is, just a booth, where random things happen. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 22:09, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== 50K RaceWalker Reference ==

Could Homestars "left right left right left" be a reference to 50K Racewalker? -kyky
:I think it is. He ''does'' get a "fault" of sounds when he messes up. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

::Although, it could just be Homestar being.. just his usual random self. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 00:06, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::Hmmm... It was up as a fact, now it's removed... I'm tempted to put it back up... it seems debatable at least -kyky

::::In fact, it ''is'' being debated right now in STUFF. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:42, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==TrogdorCon!!! It's obvious!!!==
I think TrogdorCon is a reference to DragonCon where the current HSR Booth. I think this because Trogdor is a Dragon and there are a lot of refernces to DragonCon in this Short. Also, do you think that when Strong Sad is all goin "Oh yeah, that's a good one StrongBad" that he could be building up a psycological defense against him. [[20X6 GEM]]
:Well first, 20X6 GEM, you're right about TrogdorCon = DragonCon. In fact, there's a trivia item that points out that Mike and Matt had the same booth number as Strong Bad. Second, I think Strong Sad said what he said because Strong Bad's cut-down really wasn't that good or creative. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:59, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::Well done for ''stating'' the blindingly obvious.

== Strong Sad ==

It has been two times now that Strong Sad has over played a word. He has done this in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], when he says "baklava", and in this short, saying "anime". Does anyone think this could be going for [[Running Gags]]? Or does it need another reference or two? {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 22:06, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:It needs at least one more reference. Two would be even better. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:13, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Oh, okay. I thought I might just point that out, just incase. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 22:14, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Actually, in the email [[rampage]], Marzipan stuttered when she said "Geoff Chaucer would be would be proud." That could be another example. --Bluelite

:I think Homestramy was talking about Strong Sad making too enthusiastic an attempt to pronounce words from other ethnicities in a non-anglocentric, phonetically authentic way. Marzipan does the same with ''baklava'', and she's the one who insisted on ''oo-ke-lay-lay''—technically correct. The [[rampage]] duplication of words doesn't seem to have anything to do with this, and I'm still trying to figure it out; I thought at first it was to turn her sentence into iambic pentameter, but that would require two more syllables. --[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 19:32, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Bonus Stage==
I think I found out where japimation! watch [http://www.bonusstages.com/bonusstage36.html this toon], and you can here them say Japmimation. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 23:42, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
*I heard the term "Japanimation" used years ago, probably before that toon, was made, and in a completely divorced context. Sorry. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:45, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Please to be putting on more other days ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad saying "Please to be putting on more clothes..." in the Easter egg is a reference to the Polish email in other days.}}
{{stuffverdict|17:10, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)|02:18, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)|declined|24|23|TrogdorCon '97}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== MILLION SIDED DIED! ===
{{stufffact|This toon contains another reference to a die with more than six sides, a previous reference having been made in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]].}}
{{stuffverdict|1:22, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)|22:09, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|10|1|TrogdorCon '97}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Dork-on ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad previously refered to someone as a dork-on in [[studying]].}}
{{stuffverdict|20:22, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)|22:09, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)|declined|13|5|TrogdorCon '97}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== 50K Starrunner ===
{{stufffact|[[Homestar Runner]]'s chant of "left, right, left, right, right, right, no—" is similar to the description of [[50K Racewalker]] on the [[Videlectrix]] games catalog page.}}
{{stuffverdict|07:05, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)|04:41, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)|accepted|21|9|TrogdorCon '97}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Nerdiest Diapey ===
{{stufffact|The diaper reference is from the Alphonse Elric character in ''[[Wikipedia:Fullmetal Alchemist|Fullmetal Alchemist]]'' where his apron has been mistaken by the others for a diaper.}}
{{stuffverdict|17:37, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)|02:33, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|17|1|TrogdorCon '97}}

== Rotunda ==

Is it worth mentioning that Strong Bad's saying "rotunda" in the easter egg is a play on "rotund", which means "round" or, in this case, "overweight"? It seems important to know, but I'm not sure if it's too obvious. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:51, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

:I got it the first time, but that's just me. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

== Again, DVD reference... ==

I don't feel like looking up Marilyn Manso, but we need it in a reference thing. Like we did with the SBemail commentaries.--[[User:Robert Benedicio|Robert Benedicio]] 05:51, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

== Goof? ==

I noticed that when [[Strong Bad]] pats [[The Cheat]] on the head, The Cheat moves a tiny bit. If you look close enough, you can see this. Is it worth mentioning? [[User:Sbmaniac|Sbmaniac]] 14:30, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

:I highly doubt that this is worth mentioning. Thanks for asking before adding, though. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 14:33, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

== LOTR==

Do you think the horn could be a reference to the Horn of Gondor in the Lord of the Rings (movie)?

:Actually, I do. First off, does The Cheat's horn make generally the same sound as the one from Lord of the Rings? If so, then I'd definately believe it. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:38, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

==Should this go anywhere?==

That despite Strong Bad saying that, I'm pretty sure Anime wasn't called "Japanimation" at 87. I know this because I was born then, and My eairlest memories of hearing the word anime was around 4 which isn't that far. Furthur more, I saw recordings of shows from 87 and before and they had the name Anime attached to them.

So is this a goof, or a dilberate joke by TBC (Because some people have called it Japanimation, but as far as I remember it was always ANIME") 21:26, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

== Did the KoT say he hates peas? ==

Regarding the recent back and forth over whether the King of Town hating peas in [[different town]] was an implication or directly said, I had been assuming that his interjection of hating peas was from outside of Strong Bad's imagination and was simply reflected in the in-imagination view that we're shown. Meaning, I assumed that the "real" KoT responds to Strong Bad's song with his interjection, and that's incorporated into the "imaginary" KoT saying it as well. And that would make sense were it not for Strong Sad. I doubt the "real" Strong Sad would interject "I'm evil" into the song, and the ending scene with him dressed as Calibos back in the "real world" seems to make it clear that no one heard SB's song, and that even the interjections were imaginary. Thank you for coming to my TED talk. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:48, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
:Well, Strong Bad responds to the KoT's "I hate peas!" with "I know!". So Strong Bad "knows" that the KoT hates peas. I just hope that he actually knows, and isn't totally 'stnanken. -- [[Special:Contributions/68.37.43.131|68.37.43.131]] 23:05, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
::What Defender said is true, but it still stands that it was outright stated, rather than implied, albeit by SB’s imagination rather than the “real” KoT. So it’s true that the KoT doesn’t say it, but maybe the fact should be “The King of Town is said [stated? revealed?] to hate peas in different town”. -[[Special:Contributions/107.77.76.53|107.77.76.53]] 23:13, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Trogdor Con '97

107.77.76.53 — Thu, 23 May 2019 22:43:56 GMT

107.77.76.53: undid revision 783883; still, it’s not an implication

{{toonnav|Shorts|trogdorcon|The Li'l Brudder Show|Commandos in the Classroom}}
[[Image:trogdorcon.PNG|200px|thumb|"Or in your case, Trog-''dork''-on '97."]]
Strong Bad heads to the comic book convention. Why? To make fun of nerds, of course!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|The King of Town}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Booth 101]], The King of Town's Booth (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' Monday, September 5, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:10 [[TV Time Toons Menu|official]], 3:31 actual

'''Page Title:''' Con as in Convention!

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 1}}

==Transcript==
''(Strong Bad and The Cheat are seen behind a booth with a banner that reads "[[TROGDOR]]-Con" above them. Strong Bad taps his fists on the table in anticipation.)''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, so here we are at TrogdorCon! Got the booth set up and lookin' good! So, The Cheat—these cons... what exactly is gonna go on here?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Geeks and nerds?! That doesn't sound like anything I wanna be a part of!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ladies in skimpy sci-fi costumes? That sounds like ''everything'' I wanna be a part of! Are you sure they're in the same place as the geeks and nerds? That doesn't make any sense. Ladies in skimpy outfits should be hanging out with me... and to a lesser degree, football players and rappers. Not geeks, nerds, or any of their smelly brethren.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, I'll see it when I believe it.

''{Homestar Runner walks up. He has a paper star taped over his normal star and is wearing a red beanie with propeller similar to The Homestar Runner's over his usual cap.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oooh, Booth 101! My favorite booth! Hey, guess who I'm supposed to be!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Um... Homestar Runner?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, you got it! First try! Was it my star ''{he shows off his paper star}'' or propeller cap ''{he bends over and shows off his cap}'' that gave it away?

'''STRONG BAD:''' It was your unbelievably loose grasp on the world around you.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, I guess I do have one of those. Hey, what kind of cool stuff do you guys have here? Got any pewter figurines, or maybe some magna?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Nope, just hangin' out. Seeing what walks by.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh oh, I can walk by! Here, watch! ''{Runs offscreen to the left, and instantly returns, walking slowly and staring at his feet. As he moves, his words are not in time with his steps.}'' Left, right, left, right, right, right, no—left, right, left, right. ''{exits}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So, by the way The Cheat, what are gamertags? Why do we have boxes of them behind us?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So we're not really selling gamertags?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What're we really gonna be selling? Some of those ''million sided dies''?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So, us hanging out selling gamertags is a front for us plain ol' hanging out.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat, you're a genius! I don't pay you enough!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{glares at Strong Bad}'' ''{angry The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh right, I don't pay you at all. That's what I meant to say. ''{leans back and puts his feet up}'' Now let's kick back and see if we can't summon some skimpily-clad ladies to ye olde gamertag booth.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

''{The Cheat jumps onto the table and plays an alpine horn}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sits up again}'' Oh! Where'd you get that bad boy?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Booth 709, huh? I'll have to go check that out!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' They've got axes and swords!? Man, this con just keeps gettin' better all the time!

''{Strong Sad enters from left, wearing a pair of semi-transparent Trogdor-style wings, an armband, eyeliner, blood teardrops, a tribal-tattoo style design around his belly button, and with his toenails painted black}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, and we've hit a snag.

'''STRONG SAD:''' What are you guys doing here?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hangin' out. Don't tell nobody, but secretly we're really just hangin' out.

'''STRONG SAD:''' But didn't it cost money to get a booth?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look, I don't know where The Cheat got 500 bucks or where your missing 500 bucks is. All I know is that we're hanging out here at TrogdorCon '97! Or in your case, Trog-''dork-on'' '97.

'''STRONG SAD:''' It's not called TrogdorCon and it's 2005.

'''STRONG BAD:''' It might be for you, but ''{pause}'' you're... a butt. ''{smiles}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' That's a good 'un, Strong Bad. Okay, I'm gonna go buy some ''{with [[Foreign Words|exaggerated inflection]] and movements}'' anime!

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's called Japanimation! ...Least it was last time I checked... which was 1987. ''{The Poopsmith walks by in shadow in his Sleestak costume.}'' I don't know about all this, The Cheat. Maybe it's time we filled up that horn of yours with pea soup and tried to shoot it all the way over to that Godzilla guy's booth.

''{The Cheat holds up a can of pea soup and the horn. He and Strong Bad run off. The word "endeth" appears over the screen, and The Cheat's horn is heard in the distance.}''

==Easter Eggs==
* Clicking the 'tag?' on the "gamertag?" sign at the end will result in this:
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{drenched in pea soup, breathing heavily, and speaking very angrily}'' Ohhh, somebody picked the wrong authorized Godzilla reseller to mess with today!

* At the end, click on the period in "endeth." to see Strong Bad criticizing people's costumes.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, loincloth, please to be putting on more clothes... Ugh... like five or six... more clothes... ''{cut}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, what's up, ironic costume? I suppose you think you're cooler than everyone here! Well guess what: ''You're also here.'' At the comic book convention. ''{cut}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' I never thought I'd see the day where a tattoo was a bad thing, but you madam, have shown me the light. ''{cut}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Just for fun I think I'm gonna start throwing boxes of gamertags at dudes wearin' kilts. ''{cut}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' The fact that your costume is accurate down to the tiniest detail does not change the fact that that TV show ''sucked''. ''{cut}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Man if I see another person in a diaper— ''{cut}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, hello Rotunda! Your physique certainly merits you wearing that leather bikini and fishnet hose.

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Manga|Manga]] is the Japanese term for comic books, literally translated as "whimsical pictures." Outside Japan itself, it specifically refers to comics of Japanese origin (and sometimes comic books drawn in the Japanese style). Homestar's "[[Foreign Words|magna]]" is a common misspelling and mispronunciation among English-speaking comic book fans.
*Similarly, [[anime]] is the Japanese term for animated cartoons, used outside the country to specifically refer to cartoons of Japanese origin. "Japanimation" is an American term for anime that is now rarely used and considered outdated or even offensive to fans of the medium.
*"Gamertags" are accounts used by [[Wikipedia:Xbox Live|Xbox Live]] subscribers, as well as other online video and computer games.

===Trivia===
*Booth 101 was the booth that [[The Brothers Chaps|Mike and Matt]] had at [[Store#DragonCon|DragonCon '05]].
*Booth 709 at DragonCon was occupied by [http://www.edhellen.com/ Edhellen Armoury], and sold axes and swords.
*This is another instance of [[Strong Bad Smiling]].


===Remarks===
*Though Strong Bad says he doesn't pay The Cheat, he has been shown paying him in [[lackey]], albeit with pencil shavings. He also pays The Cheat in soft tacos for his lawyer services in [[rough copy]].
*This was the longest short when it was released, and is similar in length to two toons released just before it. In fact, it is even longer than the toons [[Parsnips A-Plenty]], [[The Reddest Radish]], and [[In Search of the Yello Dello Old Version]].

===Goofs===
*Strong Bad's hand is disconnected from his body for a short time while rubbing his chin.

===Inside References===
*The Poopsmith's [[Pumpkin Carve-nival Costumes|Sleestak costume]] was first seen in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*The King of Town says that he hates [[peas]] in [[different town]].
*Strong Bad mentions [[1987]] as being the last time he checked whether anime was the same as Japanimation.
*Homestar's chant of "left, right, left, right, right, right, no—" is similar to the description of [[50K Racewalker]] on the [[Videlectrix]] games catalog page.
*The sound used when Strong Bad moves the "Gamertags?" sign is the same [[sound effect]] used for [[The Geddup Noise]].
*Strong Bad says [[Please to be]].
*Strong Bad says that a costume is based on a TV show that [[sucks]].

===Real-World References===
*"Million-sided die" is in reference to the [[Wikipedia:Dungeons and Dragons|Dungeons and Dragons]] style of role-playing game, where the dice can have anywhere up to [[Wikipedia:Zocchihedron|100 sides]], as well as to the fact that conventions such as DragonCon have vendors that sell such unusual dice.
*[[Wikipedia:Godzilla|Godzilla]] is a fictitious giant reptile, made famous by his appearances in movies from the Japanese studio [[Wikipedia:Toho|Toho Corporation]].

== DVD Version ==
*To access the Strong Bad egg, click down on the remote until the HR logo lights up. To access the King of Town egg, click right until the star of the logo lights up.
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MIKE:''' ''{sings}'' We put this cartoon up, the time we did a con... ''{speaks}'' So yeah, we did, uh, DragonCon in Atlanta a couple months ago. A month ago.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' And umm, originally we were gonna make this to show at the con in our booth; we had a little booth that looked pretty much like the booth that The Cheat and Strong Bad are at.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' Yeah. Umm, though we spent more of our time making a fake Strong Badia fence and painting a stop sign to look like Strong Badia.

'''MIKE:''' But anyway, so we didn't get it done in time to show at DragonCon but we did this— we had it written, and since that went through the weekend, this was our Monday update.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Yeah, what do you think, guys?

'''MIKE:''' Gamer— gamertag!

'''MATT:''' Yeah. That seems like something—

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' That's my buzzword. ''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' Umm... yeah, Strong Bad doesn't have a— any kind of gaming system that would— that has gamertags involved with it.

'''MIKE:''' No. That, uh, Halloween cos— err, that costume that Homestar's wearing: last Halloween, uh, he dressed up—

'''MATT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' [[Homestar vs. Little Girl 2]].

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, the puppet, uh, Homestar puppet had that costume on.

'''MATT:''' He did.

'''MIKE:''' But none of those takes made it into the final cut.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Not very funny.

'''MIKE:''' It was a good costume, though.

'''MATT:''' She wasn't kicking him in those, so we didn't use them. Umm, so there were a lot of pewter figurines at DragonCon.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, I was surprised. It was the first con I'd ever been to, and I was surprised at how much like what I thought it was—

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' —gonna be it was.

'''MATT:''' Lots of dice booths...

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, there was a booth all of dice, and...

'''MATT:''' We were in Booth 101, too, weren't we? That was our actual booth number? And, uh, later on, uh, we— Strong Bad makes come comment about dudes wearing kilts. And our man Phil from, uh...

'''MIKE:''' Ah, yes!

'''MATT:''' A booth around the way was wearing a kilt. He was dressed in a nice— a nice Scots garb, all—

'''MIKE:''' Very nice man, very nice man.

'''MATT:''' Is it OK that I mentioned Phil?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah! We didn't men— we don't know his last name.

'''MATT:''' Rizzuto.

'''MIKE:''' I'm sure there's a lot of Phils.

'''MATT:''' Probably Rizzuto.

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' That were wearing kilts there.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' That's probably very true, Mike. Truer than you could know. Umm, so here's another convoluted cockamamie scheme like the [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]] scheme, where the gamertags— they're selling gamertags as a front for just wasting time—

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Hanging out—

'''MATT:''' —yet they paid... I really like your Norse horn there, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' Did I make that?

'''MATT:''' I think you did—

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' I think I... The old Google image searss— search and trace.

'''MATT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Yeah. Oh yeah, and that booth— that booth number he just said was, uh, was a real booth at DragonCon that was selling axes and swords.

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Oh, remember the axes and swords? Oh, lots of people dressed— lots of people with wings!

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Wings were...

'''MATT:''' Not dressed as anything in particular just...

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, just wings.

'''MATT:''' I'm winged, and then kind of have some Marilyn Manson makeup on...

'''MIKE:''' I'm winged!

'''MATT:''' Winga, winga...

'''MIKE:''' I like AFI, and I have wings.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. That's right, Mike. '97.

'''MIKE:''' '97's something...

'''MATT:''' Is that the same, Awexome Cross '97, right?

'''MIKE:''' I think it's [[Awexome Cross|Awexome Cross '98]].

'''MATT:''' Is it? We don't know our website very well, do we?

'''MIKE:''' I think it's '98, 'cause I think I actually looked at that 'cause I thought it was '97. too.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' But TrogdorCon '97 sounds good.

'''MATT:''' I love it when— I love it when Strong Bad sah— smiles, and I love it when Strong Sad pronounces— overly pronounces things.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Originally we were gonna have lots of characters walking all around, making it look full, but I stopped after I made the Poopsmith walk by in his old Halloween costume.

'''MATT:''' No new graphics!

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' I got lazy.

'''MATT:''' Ka-chent!

=== Fun Facts ===

*[[Wikipedia:Marilyn Manson|Marilyn Manson]], born Brian Warner, is the leader of an [[Wikipedia:Industrial Metal|industrial metal]] band also called [[Wikipedia:Marilyn Manson (band)|Marilyn Manson]]. The band members have been known to wear makeup similar to that worn by Strong Sad in this toon.
*[[Wikipedia:Phil Rizzuto|Phil Rizzuto]] is a former New York Yankees player and sportscaster, famous for his catchphrase "Holy Cow!"
*[[Wikipedia:AFI (band)|AFI]] is a band that usually wears dark make-up.

==See Also==
*[[Bobby Blackwolf Interview - 5 Sep 2005]] — [[the Brothers Chaps]] and [[Jonathan Howe]] interviewed at Dragon Con 2005
*[[Moron Life Interview - 5 Sep 2005]] — the Brothers Chaps interviewed at Dragon Con 2005

== External Links ==
*[[HR:trogdorcon.html|watch "TrogdorCon '97"]]
*[[HR:trogdorcon.swf|view the Flash file for "TrogdorCon '97"]]
*[[Forum:4825|forum thread re: "TrogdorCon '97"]]

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